The Greatest Generation - Jazz Tea (VOY S4E22)

Episode Date: October 24, 2022

When Chakotay gets surprised by another beautiful space lady, Captain Janeway makes herself scarce for the rest of the episode. But when it takes too long for the first officer to loosen up, Curneth��s forgetful beam blocks a second chance with Kellin. Is Paramount going to pass on another great pitch? What have the Borg been skipping in their assimilations? Why is there a cul de sac on a starship? It’s the episode that could have been helped greatly by a deep V!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!

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For the Captain Captain. Bringing where the U.S. is. For the U-S-S-S-B-R-D-Captain Captain Captain Captain Bringengwa the U-S-S-S-B-R-D-Captain Captain Captain Welcome to the greatest generation Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are just a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pranica. You QuarkSpardas last time. Potential spam is calling me. I didn't turn off my notifications, sorry. Gotta turn those off. Yeah, so it's a consecutive drinking episode.

Your fault. Sure is. Yeah, it is my fault. Sorry. Hey, I don't know if we've talked about this, but we didn't record all of last week's episode in one sitting. We had to cut off the end of the recording and come back and finish the P1s to the end where we weren't drunk for that.

We did not have that drunk like we should have been. We did not have coconut- like we should have been. We did not have coconut base beverages in our bodies. I mean, if you're a P1 customer, which version do you want? Do you want a sober read with a fun twist or do you want just a shit show read by two drunk I don't know if I'm paying, I might want the good one. Which is the good one? Precisely. Yeah, exactly. What are you drinking today, buddy?

I'm drinking sake. Oh, wow. I had a half a bottle of sake in my fridge. And what better excuse to kill it than a quark spar episode. I just love Sockie. Is this stopper in that? The stopper from the bottle of canar that someone gave us? That's a great question. It might be. Let me hold it up to the camera for you and the viewers at home. Is that it? That's totally what that is. Yeah, it's good stopper. Cause I came home with the canar, but I was like, oh man, we lost the stopper.

I'm so glad that you have it. We didn't lose the stopper, I stole it. Hahaha. I don't know, is the canar with demar square still on the board? Cause we have the like official Star Trek Wayne canar bottle. It's on there. Then it's square 54.

Oh good. So it's four rows up from us. We'll never get there, but yeah, it still exists. Okay, good. Because we also had a friend of DeSoto make us a bottle, a custom bottle of Amaro for a Kenar with Demar, which really, Amaro is like texturally and color wise, a closer match than red wine, which is what the Star Trek Industrial Complex has churned out.

Don't believe them. It's a fake. But we also, like, we have that canar-shaped bottle, you know? Yeah. So we need to consume both of them. We do. We do need to consume them. And I love Amaro, so we... I do too. you need to consume them. And I love them, Amaro. So we, the canar with demar square is a cocktail making square. It's not necessarily down the bottle of canar. But if we have a bottle of canar, we might as well put

her own twist on it might as well. Yeah. Yeah. I'm also drinking a libation from the Empire of Japan. I'm drinking in a savi. Hey, I like that beer. That's a Japanese porch beer. Yeah, it's a nice Japanese porch beer. It went to the Japanese grocery store downtown, picked up some sundries. One of them, they sell shiso leaves there. And I love a shiso pain killer.

Make a pain killer with a She-so seasoning in it. And that does so nice. So I bought some of those, those are all long gone, but I came home with a 12 pack of Asahi's as well. So I'm having one of those, and then when I'm done with that, I'll probably crack into some Kachasa or some Tequila or something.

I have a couple of things here at hand. I'm so glad you said that word because every time I see it on a menu, I forget how it's properly pronounced. I don't know if I'm actually doing it justice. I think it's a Portuguese word and knowing how to pronounce something in Portuguese is not intuitive for somebody that has studied Spanish or French. We've got to go to Japan together and drink our way through some of the great bars in that country.

Can we please call up our agent slash friend? I would move friend ahead of agent if he booked us a tour of Japan. Yeah, if he could pull off that trick. Yeah. Oh, man, I got so smashed on sake, like a week and a half ago on my trip to Seattle, went to my favorite sushi bar up there. Yeah, I think I've been to that sushi bar with you before.

It's just the ultimate. And we ate a bunch of sushi and between the four of us, we did three and a half bottles of sake, but they're like the larger format sake bottles. Like we, yeah, we really went for it. It was fun. I feel like, yeah, like sake bottles are one of those things where like, because they come from a different culture, they don't conform to like I feel like, yeah, like, socket bottles are one of those things where like, because they come from a different culture, they don't conform to like the 750 ML as like standard size thing that we're used to.

Yeah, they don't fit in a wine rack and they don't quite fit in a fridge door. Yeah, it's really fun to go to like a Korean restaurant and say like, give me a big beer and the big beer comes and you're like this like why 31 ounces like why like how did you decide on that or whatever? Oh man. Yeah We're two for Korean barbecue dude. No, we got to get Rob's Rob's Rob's Rob's Rob's out there. We got to get some beef in our birdies We get a tip up the Mac Goli out there. We got to get some beef in our birdies. We get to tip up the mackerelie. Get that rice wine flowing. Yeah, yeah, that's another thing I picked up

with the... Is that how you pronounce that? Did I fuck that up to? That's about what I would say if I was attempting that word. So good. Yeah. So good. I would love a friend of DeSoto to post like a video tweet of how you pronounce some of these things because I don't I don't I've only read the word, you know we've gotten a pronunciation clues encouragement Online before I wouldn't doubt that that's coming our way. Okay. If we if we've got any like Brazilian or Portuguese listeners If we've got any Korean listeners, help us out. Then it's one thing to learn how to say a thing like Kashasa. It's quite another to remember how to say it.

The next time you go to a restaurant where you need to say it again, this is my problem. What I need is something unforgettable. What I need is the title of today's episode. Oh, you're just jumping right in. What do you say we get in the sun? I thought you had a Marin plan and everything. What happened?

We're already eight minutes in, man. Let's, uh, let's really, yeah, let's get into the app. Goddamn Frankenstein. All right. Goddamn Frankenstein. Forget that other thing. Let's proceed with what is unforgettable. Right.

Star Trek Voyager Season 4 Episode 22. Unforgettable. Reaper Course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo tubes, I'm not turning around. Oh! Cheers, Adam. Cheers to you. And cheers to Andrew Robinson, the director of today's Star Trek episode, his third of three.

Wow. This is, this is the mic drop, directorial outing for Andrew Robinson. Yeah. Man. Well, you're just fine along. Your mind and your beeswax has starship Voyager, you know, doesn't seem like anything is untoward is happening, right? This may finally be the episode where nothing happens. Well we're just floating around with crew people going about their business. Yeah. Why don't you think there's, I feel like new Star Trek could pull this off, right? You know how you can go on YouTube and you can listen to like the sound of the Enterprise

for 18 hours in a row. Right. And it's supposed to be a thing that keeps you calm, that makes you serene and happy. Right. How rewatchable would that episode be where you're just on a starship, occasionally cutting around at different settings, and it's just the crew doing their work or socializing or whatever. Wouldn't that be amazing? That would really be incredible.

I would watch that episode a hundred times a year. You don't like around the holidays, YouTube will pop the like 4K, like logs burning. The 4K log. And it's listed as a television show and there's two episodes. And one episode is just like the crackle of the fire burning,

and the other is the crackle of the fire burning with Christmas carols playing against it. Yeah. And, man, this is such a great idea that you are pitching right now. Paramount Plus should have like an environmental, like put it on and you're on the D, put it on and you're on the disco, put it on and you're on the fucking No Bloody ABC or D. Like, you know what, it could be a short tracks too. It doesn't need to be a full episode, but even a short tracks could be that kind of on a loop.

Sensibility to it. But like, yeah, if they just had it as like the 10 hours of being aboard the D, I would have that on all the time. They would leap to the top of the streamer list by just like hours streamed metrics, right? Yeah. Because like, who would have returned that off? There's a version of the log with Nick Offerman

where he's just sitting next to the fire and he's drinking. And it is totally loopable. Like for hours, you can just sit with Nick Offerman and he's pouring more and more whiskey into a glass and just sitting silently looking into camera. Like this is so what I'm saying is there's a version of this that exists in a number of areas. This is not new ground. Yeah. Do this paramount plus. If you know what's good for you, do this. Yeah, this is a service. I would love to spend 10 hours on Voyager. I wonder if there isn't a cut

that doesn't already exist on YouTube where sort of like, you remember that one episode where we saw the Star Trek, the next generation, porn O film? Yeah. And it had all of the sex cut out of it and we reviewed it as like a story. It's like a as a fan film.

I think you could probably do that over the entire run of a Star Trek Voyager where you just cut out all the action and it's just people walking, the ship cruising. Yeah. No weapons being fired. Well, unlike that episode of The Mind, in this one, weapons do get fired, but they can't figure out where they're coming from.

Yeah. There's nothing out there. Like, bangers are getting dropped on the ship. It's proton surges. Yeah. And they realize is that there is a fight happening between cloaked ships and they got caught in the middle of it. What are the odds?

I mean, space is really big. I know. It's really staggeringly big. And they got like, boy, really bad luck, you guys. Talk about your all-time slipping on a banana peels. On the bridge, they're like, is there anything the Aslab can do about this? Like, hey, seven, can you, can you dial up something so that we can pick up what the deal is with these two cloaked ships? And like as they're talking about whether or not they can do this, one of the ships blows up.

And the remaining ship unclocks and hails them. Yeah. And this is an audio-only hail. Chico-te, please, I need your help. This lady is asking for Chico-te. Knows the name of Voyager. She's got a lot of info here. Yeah, they're like, what the, hey, it's going on here.

She's asking for Chico-te, and if you're Chico-te, God, this is happening again, isn't it? Some space lady is out there. Yeah. Probably saying the baby's mine. Ha-ha-ha-ha. some space lady is out there. Probably saying the baby's mine. He got to get space, Mari out here. To figure out the paternity. She goes to put in a way,

teamed together of two-bogg paris and Mari. Because of there. Mari beams down with a stack of Manila envelopes. Yeah. God. This is... Robert Belchrand has a great face for this. The absorption of species information. The romantic nut kick face.

He's really practiced as an actor. He really has this. He's great. He's great with this. After the theme, we see this mystery ship kind of blurping in and out. Like, it's cloak is both working and not working. Like, you can't decide if 65 degrees is jacket weather or not. I was the only one who anticipated that I was going to be cold. Yeah. Good point.

Yeah, good point. They beam over and it's like, you know, the ship is like not really in great shape. It's full of collapsed girders and garbage and stuff and there's like not much oxygen left. And like the house in Wizard of Oz that lands on the witch, there's like the legs sticking out from under some of this junk. That's great. And this lady's voice coming from underneath it and she goes, he's like, okay, cool, I'm going to move this.

And she's like, well, if you do that, it'll be considered Gerder murder because that Gerder is going to fall right on me. I don't know why the ship was so filled with vending machines, but she really fucked up. Rocking this one back and forth. The plane they come up with is like, I'm gonna wedge this up

and you're gonna roll out of the way as fast as you can. Yeah, but if you've been smushed by a vending machine, how able are you to roll? He doesn't ask her about that. Like how hurt are you? Can you like feel your toes? What have been questions I would have asked? When we finally see her from underneath the vending machine,

she's not smushed at all. She's fine. Yeah. It's like a magician, like it all fell on her in a way that it didn't kill her or even harm her. Yeah. This is a giant piece of metal and when she's taken directly to Six Bay,

it's just a leg problem. It's a fractured leg and a concussion. I have to say though, the girder falling looked dangerous as fuck. Like they make like Styrofoam rocks fall occasionally on TV and a lot on Star Trek in a way that is like, he that just didn't look like a threat that it needed to sell itself as.

This girder looked fucking scary when it fell. Like I was like, I can't believe Robert Belfrand was standing that close to this thing when they did that. I also want to call out the set here in that I don't recognize where they shot this. This doesn't look like a redress, like so often you'll see. Yeah. In the beginning of an episode, and I like the choice of shooting a lot of this tight, you know?

So I think a wide shot might give away what kind of recycled set dress this could be. Right. But it's just girders and vending machines everywhere and it's dark. And we get our character out of the setup before we really have enough time to idea it. She is very excited that Chico Te has come to rescue her. He beams her out and we're in six bay. And the doctor is baffled because he's trying to get readings on his medical tricorder and nothing shows up. Yeah, I mean, they're not going to be able to give her any care if they can't pull her health insurance. And if she doesn't show up in the tricorder, then I don't

know what they're going to be able to do here. Yeah, it's like, who do we send the bill to, ladies? Yeah. Captain the Captain, the U.S. says, for his, Captain the Captain, the U.S. says, for his, do it, do it, do it. She wakes up and this is a creative flourish by Andrew Robertson, right? We're in her POV and she sees all these faces at her bedside and they aren't just like squared up faces. I think this is an angle that's really hard to do in a flattering way, but the focus is kind of soft and strange. And it's more about how it feels to be a person with a concussion. And I think it's really effective when we're kind of looking around at these three heads floating above you. I really like that. I also just appreciated it for kind of pointing the camera away from her ears for as much

time as we possibly could. She clearly comes from a species of boxers because the cauliflower ear is apparently species-wide. Like everybody we meet from her planet has this. Let's find out what's going on. Yeah. She asks for asylum immediately upon waking up, and she mentions that if you don't give me this asylum, they are going to take me back. Yeah.

This very threatening they. As though we're supposed to know who the they is right and So Janeway is like all right, let's slow your roll I Have a few questions first we need to find out what mean asylum in this context Who we're picking a fight with diplomatically because we don't know you you seem to know us, but we don't know you I Love how quickly Janeway seems interested in leaving the scene and leaving her with Chico Tay.

There's coffee in that first officer. Because as soon as she scrams and the doc takes off, this lady's whole vibe changes. She is so happy to be left alone with Chico Tay. Yeah, she does not ship J. Slash C. She ships K. Slash C. Right. It's complicated.

She seems like someone who's been in his tub before and wants to get back there. Pretty quick. I was really distracted in this scene because we just got the whole thing about the doctor not being able to scan her with the tricorder, but he's like, no problem, I can just do it visually. He's like, aren't you basically the same thing

as a tri-quarter doc? And I love how like this doesn't peak anyone's interest as a possible threat. This is just an unusual quality about this person. Oh, interesting. Cool. I feel like every character is just falling for Virginia Madsen as most characters do in TV and movies, right?

Yeah, that's kind of a, I mean, it's a theme. It's plausible. Yeah, it absolutely is. But yeah, like she tells this thing about, yeah, like the memories of my people can't be held in the minds of other races. Yeah, we're black out aliens. Yeah. Actually, you know what? I don't want to name them that. That seems problematic. Yeah. Yeah. There's something else that's not bad.

There's a way to put this. That's tweetable. Yeah. They're, hey, speaking of tweets that make me very nervous all the time, this new movie that the rock is in called Black Adam. Oh. Every time it trends on Twitter, I'm like, oh God.

What am I caught up in that I don't understand? Black Adam's gonna be a problem for me until that movie opens. I didn't know that the rock was in that. I think I've seen like some bus bench ads for that. Yeah. Yeah. Black Adam is not seen like some bus bench ads for that. Yeah. Yeah. Black Adam is not a scandal.

It's just a movie. You don't have to worry, Ben. Okay. Well, that's a huge relief. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So something about her species,

like they don't interact well with scanners. Like they couldn't beam her over without Chico Te having his arms around her. They couldn't scan her with the medical tricorder and nobody remembers her, but she's like, yeah, like I was here with you for like two weeks, like a month ago and we fell madly in love with each other. Hey, Chico Te, smell your fingers.

Oh my deliciousness. Sounds great. It's like I washed my hands this morning. She's like, oh, so close. So go along with this episode. You have got to really go along with the idea that there are no cameras on the Voyager and the computer is easily erasable by an alien's computer virus and that it's not a big deal that a computer virus is able to function in this way. You just got to go with it. I mean, it almost seems like you could just like have her talk about like a slightly less traffic part of the ship that she was on and dust it for prints.

And that should show up. I know. But it doesn prints. Right. And that should show up. I know. But it doesn't. It seems implausible that there wouldn't be more evidence here. Why don't you check me for a baby? It's a very intimate conversation too because she's lying on the bed and he's like, you know, elbowed up to it. It's the bedside setting, isn't it? Really emphasizes the intimacy. And so he's like, what the,

like why are you here? Like why this cloaked ship battle in space? Yeah. And she's like, well, I come from this like closed society. And I was on your ship a month ago because I snuck aboard to like capture somebody that was trying to flee Ramura, her planet. And she is a tracer, like a special type of cop from Ramura, that nabs potential escapees

and brings them to Ramuran justice by grabbing them and then wiping their memory of the outside world and taking them back. And now she is trying to do the same. It's like, there's so many sci-fi stories like this, like the running man kind of, you know, I like, I used to be the person that grabbed these people and now I am these people. But I know all their tricks. You know what, you're so right about that, Ben, but that last way that you said that thing about that bend, but that last way that you said that thing is so different from how Kellen is.

Because there's nothing hard about this character. She's not like a cop who's seen it all. She's the best, but she's a loose cannon. There is so little of that that I really wish there was a bit more of it because I'd never found her credible as the person who has this job. It's one of the things that as the episode goes on, makes me not trust her or her story.

I think that the episode is maybe better directed than it is written because I think that Andrew Robinson saw this sort of issue and decided to play with her trustworthiness as like I think to keep you interested in what happens. But yeah. But unfortunately, that is somewhat in conflict with the story she's telling.

Yeah. Yeah, it makes it tough. Chico te has to go tell the rest of the crew this in a McLaughlin crew. If you want. I wish we saw the moments outside the McLaughlin group where Chico Te kind of takes up deep breath and was like, God, I got to do this again.

I get to tell the crew that something may have happened that I can't necessarily prove. And this is gonna suck once again. I like that Harry doesn't buy it for a second. Like, she was here. But nobody remembers it. It's a hard pill to swallow, I'm gonna say it. Yeah, I mean, the idea is viewed

with a great amount of incredulity around the table. Incredibly by Paris, who like stands up to emphasize his point about his disbelief. Am I making any sense here? I think that there's a thing happening with Paris where he's like, I don't think people take me seriously enough as a person that knows technology stuff. Yeah.

And ever since, Steph and all of that stuff, like I'm seeing an opportunity to like make the case that I am making sense here. This really stuck out to me, though, as I've attended a thousand meetings, about a thousand different subjects, but if someone stood up from a table to emphasize their point,

and that person was right next to me, I would be really surprised by that. It would be very unusual. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm glad I've never had a meeting with you. That's what she says. So the meeting sort of breaks up and the plan is like, see if we can corroborate her story at all,

because this seems fucking crazy. And Chico Day, to his credit, is squarely on team. I want to verify everything she's telling us because I'm sick of getting tricked by beautiful ladies in space. I wish there was a little more Janeway V. Chicoetay about this because at the end of the meeting, there's like a brief interrogation here where Janeway is like, is the political fallout of granting her asylum worth it to you to go today. Given we've been down this road with you many, many times before, I really want to be sure this time. If only we could use a medical tricorder to determine if

she's even sexually compatible with humans and therefore whether the baby could be yours. We'll have to wait for another day to sub-life with Seska. I mean, from the beginning, up until this point and through this point, you could argue that Shikote is not believing her, not going along with this story, just as incredulous as anyone else, Paris and Kim included. But you seem very suspicious of her. I want to make sure we're not being manipulated. You know, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

And the first example of some of that evidence, we get to see down in the ASLAB where they've downloaded the travel logs of her ship and they plot them up on the screen next to travel log of the Voyager. I like the sort of like kids computer screen level graphics of like, oh yeah, let's show the Voyager as a super big 3D model of Voyager. You can see Kellen ship and these little dots demonstrating its path. And there it is right next to Voyager and its dots. And then after a period of weeks it takes off. And then you can see the sperm sort of leave Voyager and go over to her ship. And that's how the baby was conceived.

I mean, it's 7 and 9 and 2 back in the scene until Chicoete enters and invites Kellyn to lunch. And this is a moment where after they left, seven is like, I've noticed some face flushing there that is associated with some blood flow variables. What do you think that's about? And two vachas like, that's a very low stakes date because like nobody's going over to anyone's house after a lunch. Right.

Yeah, you want to know what's high stakes. Like in Rubin Fingers as a teenager. Jesus. I don't want to do it. Perfect black. Make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself.

They go to Neelix's restaurant. Neelix is serving what I would describe as one of the worst lunches I've ever heard of. What is it? Buddered carrots, fried tofu, and almond pudding. Sounds wonderful. Very nice, thanks Nielix. Are you fucking kidding me?

I just flew recently and I was fortunate enough to get the bump, the bump up to first. So I got a meal on a tray, but none of the meals are particularly impressive. We all know that. I've had impressive meals in my few times where I got the bump for a big trip. Like I had like a good lamb chop on a trans con

first class experience one time. That sounds nice. But this menu sounds like all the sides of an airplane meal, right? And none of the mains, like if you could make a meal out of just the sides, that's what this is. Yeah. I was also very distracted in this scene by the bowl of cotton balls on a bit of metro shelving

behind Nelix. I was like, what are you doing with cotton in the kitchen? I don't know. They're probably pretty dry. Yeah, yeah. That's a key component of Leola Roots, too. I imagine. it's like, Leola Roots stew again, I got fibers in my teeth.

I'm gonna take the craziest shit after this. I'm gonna shit a medium girls t-shirt. It's like my puppy taking a dump after eating one of her toys. You just gotta pull that thing out. Yeah, you get a help or finish. This is just like opening a package from PodChop.biz right here. PodChop.biz. There's a quality to call him here that, I mean, I kind of blame on Virginia Matson a little bit, which is she's so charismatic

and so nice to be around that when you're sitting down a lunch with her and she's telling you all about you in a way that seems kind of improbable. And when the climax to that conversation is, oh yeah, we were in love with each other. You said you were in love with me. You didn't say I thought the same way.

You kind of want to believe it because she's so likable, you know? Yeah, but like it's, man, it's so interesting. Like I'm reading a book right now where a character has amnesia and like There's all this like is it the Bible? Yeah, yeah, it's the only book I read Jesus is like where am I yeah, it's like painting the Golden Gate Bridge

I just get from one cover to the next and I go right back and start again from one cover to the next and then I go right back and start again. Oh, but like I always wonder is there like biological component of love like as important as the mental component or not? Like and this sort of makes the case that not. Like he, there's nothing his birdie is telling him that his mind disagrees with, you know. His mind is telling him no.

But his body, his body is telling him no. Let's take it one step at a time. I was waiting for this moment for 10 minutes in this episode. I felt like she starts telling a story that goes into a flashback. Yeah. I totally thought that this episode was gonna be primarily flashback.

Yeah. And it's not. It's like this one little anecdote she tells about, like, oh yeah, I was like sneaking around on the ship under a cloak for two days. I accidentally tripped something that caused my cloak to fall. And you were the one that caught me. It was you, Chico Tay.

Yeah. And then what happened? And then I met you. I don't want to hurt you. Put your weapon down. Back back. You have a stone lamp, Lord. I'll retrieve him.

He will be on our way. That's not the way we do things here. Chico Tay to two-bock. We're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we we're we're we we're we're we we're we're we're we're we we're we we're we're we're in your Madzins case, presumably several more in the case of the fugitive she was pursuing. I like the amount of clarity that the flashbacks present because they are neither extremely clear nor very unclear about where we're heading in the story. There are times where I'm like, oh, where am I? Oh yeah, it's a flashback. But why doesn't this match up with what they're talking about? Like there's a little bit of equilibrium you need to find

when you're in these moments. Yeah. That I think is actually good. I mean, like any meat cute that starts with the two characters aiming phasers at each other is just destined to lead to love, right? It's a real reservoir dogs meet cute Yeah, that's what you want to cut the zero with a straight razor. Yeah

He's hers from then on yeah, he's putty in her hands Chico Tay is not mr. Red He's thankful you're not mr. Yellow there's a lot of an innuendo in this, but we cut back to the lunchroom and she's like, I wanna talk about it all the emotions that this brings up for me and he's like, I wanna talk about what the fuck happened. Like, tell me the facts. Yeah, this is one of those scenes that really lays bare how much more of a cop

Chico Teia's than Kellyn is. Right. I'd rather you stick to the events, not the emotions surrounding them. He's just the facts maming her and she is like, give me some of that pudding. That's just it too, is like she's so easy to argue with. And I mean that in like, not in the sense that you're constantly getting into arguments with her, but because like when you're in such an argument,

it does not seem like a high stakes thing because she wants to talk about putting. Yeah. So fucking cute. Like everything is equally high stakes for her in that it is not high stakes, including the putting. Yeah. We get a banger here at the end of her bon mo

And up on the bridge she joins chicote to explain that this is More tracers from her planet coming to NAB her and take her back. Yeah They won't answer their hails and these these weapons are formidable, like they're getting through the shields. This isn't just an idle threat. It's not. They have these like proton weapons that punch right through and like recalibrating the shields doesn't work.

And they still haven't really made a decision about whether she gets asylum or not. Like we've got some decent evidence to corroborate her story, not like super bulletproof by any means, but it's like semi convincing. And they're like kind of trying to decide what to do when they find out that these bangers have knocked out propulsion. And so the Voyager crew chooses violence.

I mean, it's not just the crew. Janeway asks Chico Tay specifically. And there is a long camera move into Chico Tay's face as he thinks about it. And the rest of the bridge crew looks at him and he finally looks at the screen and he says fire. And that's the end of the episode. That's the end of the season.

Wow. I love to come back after the summer to find out the exciting conclusion. Yeah, amazing. They like a couple of shots. Kellen puts some stuff into a computer that helps their sensors track the ships that are shooting them.

And they're able to knock out weps on both ships, and both ships leave because you gotta have weps. This is another situation that suggests the idea of maybe a misplaced trust, or like maybe they're moving too fast, because they allow Kellin to to dig in those computer guts a little bit. In a way that's like,

you really need to trust your instincts here and that she's gonna be on your side. Yeah, she proposes a permanent modification of the sensors that will enable them to penetrate the polarizing cloak that these ships use. It's not something that you can do by yourself. A bridge officer will need to be alongside her to authenticate these moves.

And so that's Chico Te, and that means they get to do some close work with each other in some steamy, steamy jeffries tubes. I can do that, Cat. Now, when you're flirting with a tradesperson on a job site, you're gonna want to look for opportunities to show him you can. We've set up this ladder to the second floor, Dharma. And I'm going up first.

That way, the person below me can see my entire tool belt, hammer, and tuck spasitor. way that person below me can see my entire tool about Hama and Tux Fashita. Yeah. She goes up the ladder first, man. She goes up the ladder first after saying, wait till I tell you about our last night together. Yeah. I mean, this is a scene straight out of the naked gun. It's a scene straight out of a fucking like BBC nature documentary about baboons showing

each other's butts to each other. I mean with ears that look like that, who knows what's happening? Down below. Very confusing, I bet. She got a blu-ESS! From that BBC documentary that I helped with, you know, there it is. Of course, it's long-tailed. But, it doesn't mean to be careful, because I'm only going to say this once. In the mess hall to co- Teh walks in after this scene,

like we elliptically cut to the mess hall. We don't know what happens at the top of the ladder. No, no. But in the mess hall scene, Chico Teh hits up and he looks slayed at night and he's like, look man. You usually keep this place open for calto, but what I need is tea, bartenders tea. Do you have any like jazz tea?

Something to help me sleep. That's gotta be a thing here. There is sort of an implication in Nielix's dialogue that there are like narcotic teas available to the crew, right? I love that Chico Te goes here instead of Six Bay. Okay, because he wants a natural solution to this problem. Right? He doesn't want to take drugs.

No. Yeah. Something that's not going to give him a hangover would be great. Something with some mushrooms in it. Hmm. Maybe. A micro dose. In this case, I think he's not so much bartender as bud tender, but Mielek sort of plays the role

of the server that you kind of let your problems be known to. And he, you know, gives a little bit of shoulder to cry on to Dakota. He's gardening a little bit here, huh? Yeah. Not as effectively as Gainon, but he's, you know, he's wearing the Gyanin hat. No, Q would kick his fucking ass. Yeah, she would pull out that nobby rifle and fucking smoke him. Yeah, he's a little souvenir I picked up from Magus III.

Nelix doesn't want to butt in, but can't help himself because he's Nelix. Yeah. And he's like, hey, I see the way Kellyn looks at you. It's a way I would love anyone in the entire universe to look at me. What's that like my last girlfriend turned into a being of pure energy and I'm just kind of I guess you could say I'm on the market And then my girlfriend after that And then my girlfriend after that, God, was like the fruit stand sales person. Yeah, that didn't go well.

No, that ended poorly. We got to see those melons once. But this is like a scene where the like the question of can we trust, Kellen comes up. And we cut to Chico Te, like late night looking at an iPad in his quarters with all the lights dimmed. And she comes in and she's like, Hey, um, just wanted to check in. Do you trust me? Unfortunately, this is a scene where they both need a wardrobe change and don't have one.

Like the elliptical edit and what Chicoete asks for in Helix's is like telling us that it's late in the evening, but I really wish there were some pajamas here. Yeah, a deep view would have really helped this scene over the finish line. Thanks so too. It really makes Chicoete seem more uptight than he needs to seem too. That's my point. Yeah. More defensive against her or anyone else. And I think it kind of undercuts the tension in the scene of he doesn't love her yet. Like, like, she is there to win his love back on the understanding that he has forgotten who she is. Like, if we take everything, she says everything she says is true. She is going through the difficult job

of trying to re-win his love after having lost it through a biological process that is totally outside of both of their control. It's another scene that doesn't make Kellyn look particularly good or trustworthy, though, because her angle is that awful girlfriend black male of like, if you don't like me, I'm just going to kill myself, which is basically what she's saying by saying she's going to go back to the Ramora and eat the punishment that's coming for her as

an escapee of their culture, right? It felt, I don't know, it felt gross like that. Yeah, like he sort of agrees to entertain this under duress. And when he tells her, don't go, we go to commercial. Don't forget, with La Cuna, you can't forget. When he thinks about it, the camera moves in, right into his face, and he says, fire, and that's the end of the episode

and the end of the season. Now we have to wait another summer. God, I was such a short season. This series was seven seasons, but it was actually nine seasons with all the summer breaks. And when we come back after the summer break, they seem to have sort of broken the ice.

Like, they've definitely broken out the ice cream. She's loving this stuff. How many replicated rations was that ice cream you think? Oh man, yeah. I bet if you're chico-tade, you're doing pretty good. Yeah. On the rations. Yeah, but is he like the kind of guy

that tries to impress a woman by like buying her drinks at a bar? Like, is that the analog here? Like he's splashing out to show that he's like worth considering for a date? But she already likes him. Yeah. He doesn't have to try that hard. He doesn't have to go the ice cream route. Because there's something so enjoyable about being in the company of a person like this, because she's such an easy laugh and she does a bunch of arm rubbing. And like, it's on, it's so on.

He finally asks about their last night together. This was like the sword of Damocles over their whole thing. Like when are we gonna hear about that last night? And she's like, do you have a, we tell you about it, do you have a ladder in here? Do you have a, do you have a tarp? Also, where's your bindle? Do not smell the stick on the bindle.

She tells them about the trap that they laid for the person she was pursuing to catch him. And we cut to another flashback where they're doing the like, well, I guess we'll beam you out of here. We didn't catch that guy. Oh, well, he must not be here anymore. It is unfortunate that my mission was a failure, but I need to go home now. I will beam you home in a moment. I will beam you home. and I just want to stress that I do not have a phaser anywhere near the transporter controls. Neither of us have phasers and both of us are very disappointed that we did not find the suspect you were looking for.

This actually works on this fucking idiot. And they get his cloak to drop. At this point, I was like, I kind of want this episode to head in a direction of interrogating why did Jacote help this cop, like, force a guy to go back to their closed society who clearly didn't want to. Maybe we're on this side of the three sides. This guy seem like, like, he had a legitimate gripe. He didn't want to go back. They don't let anyone leave.

Like that's fucking, like, he's just in prison on their fucking planet. That sucks. Hey, maybe, maybe A-Tab. Yeah. Maybe that's what's happening here. I was starting to think A-Tab. And the episode does not engage with that at all.

Now, yeah. So I mean, the story is that they celebrated putting cuffs on this guy with a bunch of champagne and, uh, got them when we cut back into the present. The TV show score sounds just like any other Star Trek voyage episode during a romantic moment. At that pan flute they lay in and back out of this. It is unfortunately very hilarious. The world's horny as pan flute.

Yeah. The scene just devolves into a make-out sash. Yeah. And then they cut to a train about to enter a tunnel. And then they cut, and that's the end of the season. So you don't even find out if the train goes into the tunnel. There's the depiction of a Native American man, like drawing back a bow. And like, what is this supposed to mean? Like, is this some white person's idea of Native American man, like drawing back a bow. And you're like, what is this supposed to mean? Like, is this some white person's idea

of Native American culture? And then like, as this person releases the bow, we cut to the credits and it's the end of the season. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. When we come back after the summer, the train enters the tunnel, the train enters the tunnel. The arrow hits the deer and Shikote is walking in the hallway with Tuvac.

And it's now a, they've concluded that Kellyn will be joining the crew. She's now a member of the Voyager. And Shikote is floating the idea maybe she should be on security, what with her great skills of an investigator? I've never been more shocked on a Star Trek Voyager episode than the bit that TuVac does here. I was just more confused than made to laugh because it was so unexpected what he was doing here,

but a great moment for TuVac. It's sort of like the simulation of choking Nelix that he's just running out in public. Yeah. You know, yeah. Yeah. He really drags her, drags Nelix and denies that he's doing both the entire time.

If you choose to interpret my remark as humorous, that is your decision. But seems kind of open to, you know, putting her on a team. I mean, it seems like they could use her help, especially in the weapons and defenses area of the ship. These Ramoren weapons are legit, and they really don't have an answer for them. Right.

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it kind of paints the Ramorens as a culture that are pretty chill, like not to take over the entire quadrant with their undefensible weapons. Yeah. Like, they seem pretty cool. entire quadrant with their undefensible weapons. Yeah. Like, they seem pretty cool. It made me wonder, like, could the Borgs even assimilate the Remorans? Would the Remorans kick the Borgs ass? Or if the Borgs could even get a Remoran drone?

Would they remember that they had the drone? I think if the Remorans are like Kellyn at all, I think they'd just be charmed. They'd be too charmed to assimilate. What about species for 2069? Could they kick their ass? I don't know. They seem uncharmerable.

Yeah. Over in the fluidic space. Those guys seem like real dicks. Yeah. When Kellyn leaves, seven brings up to Harry again, that she seems horny for Chico Day. Seven is still on this. This is a scene that didn't make me think about

what the episode wanted me to think about because the episode's like, isn't it funny? That seven is just calling it like she sees it. She can tell when people have crushes on each other and isn't that funny. But the subtext here that we don't really get is I wish Seven was more about how differently Kellyn is being treated than her own treatment when she first became a crew person. Everyone's really nice to her And giving her opportunities and stuff, even though she's from a different culture

and it seems very soon to be doing that. It seems like a kind of bullshit that it seems as though Kellen is a shoe in for beta squad and Sefin still has to sleep in a cargo bay. Yeah, I mean, the only person you ever got a flushed face around me is Kim and that doesn't really count, does it? He gets a flesh face around everyone. Yeah. Kim's like, look, seven, the flesh face thing, you're getting it. I know you get it, but what you don't get is that before people fuck, there's a getting to know you, period of time, and that's what's happening

here. It's important to have a little bit of rapport before getting down. That makes it easier to get closer. Tell me, tell me, and your mark, very proud. Harry Kim. Who are you? Harry Kim. Is Seven just like not into four play at all? The end result is the same. Is it not? How could the Borgs have not assimilated this information?

That there's some fun in the Shersay left, then? All the Borgs have assimilated or just in-cell cultures. But who better to ask about these things than Kim, though? Like the great stickman of the crew. Yeah, and he's like, I don't really feel like explaining this to you. Yeah. He's like explaining physics to an ant.

How are you doing in Quartz Barwise, by the way? I'm getting near the end. You finished half a bottle of sake? Yeah, the bottle is killed, and I'm down to half of the last glass of it. I think my timing's good. Wow. I'm gonna pour myself a tequila.

I had one beer and one cachassa, which that was the last cachassa I had in the bottle. Yeah. Now you're pronouncing it differently than you did in the open band. I just want to call attention to that. Now I'm gonna do some of this DOS Artez Blanco tequila. Oh yeah, that's a fun tequila. This is a gift that you gave me. It is, a cherished gift.

Yeah, it's a good bottle. Is this bottle a leader? It's hard to tell by looking at it. A letro? Yeah, I don't know if they even say how much is in this bottle, but it seems like I can't kill this bottle, which is great. Like I've had a lot of tequila out of this bottle and it still feels really full.

That's a good feeling when it's a totally opaque clay-looking bottle. Yeah. Just don't know. Yeah, it might just be that the bottle is heavy because it's made out of clay. Right. Kellyn's walking back to her quarters after her shift and she's got that late night after work

in a parking lot and it's dark kind of spooky sense that she's being watched or she's being injured. She does the thing where she puts the keys in between her fingers. Yeah. Yeah. I thought the scene was so interesting because it seemed like, okay, this is the scene where she's alone finally,

like this is the first time she's been alone this entire episode and she's going to like mask off and we're going to find out what shady shit she's actually been up to. I was also bumped a little bit that she appears to live in a cul-de-sac. The configuration of Voyager and its decks are just all rings, right? You would think. So when I saw her walk home from work and get to her quarters, she's like, at the end, the end of what? The end of the ring.

Yeah. That was confusing. Anyway, she rolls into her quarters and she sees the broken wine glass in there. Is it her quarters or is it Chico Teys? Because that's the wine glass she had in Chico Teys quarters. And so I'm wondering like... You think Chico Tey gave her his keys? Is she staying with him?

I wish that was a little more clear. I mean, whether or not she's followed, it just made very clear because the tracer just shows up. It's a coated security in two to alert my quarters. Yeah, she tells ChicoTe like, hey, so this broken wine glass thing is a message from the tracer that clearly like got aboard in the last attack. They're following me and he's like, hey, yo, I am indeed. Here is my weapon. Zap, zap, zap. Chicoate's got to shoot faster than this.

I mean, maybe since being with Kellen, he's used to shooting very late. Right, yeah, he's like working his way up to a kind of, like a tantra style, phaser practice. And this guy, this guy, Kerneth. What's funny is, like, Kern doesn't remember anything, but Kerneth remembers everything. Yeah, Kerneth, take it. Kerneth, take it the way.

I think you're close to something there. Kern, give it and Kerneth, take it the way. Yeah. I don't know. Kerneth is like, it's too late, man. I already shot her and before you know it, she's going to forget all about you in this place and her feelings. We're done.

I did it. It's over. It's over before it started. My mission is a success. So Jakote, like, I guess, takes this guy into custody and we cut to 6 Bay, where the image is for some reason using a tricorder. Didn't we establish that that's useless? I mean, did he forget that it was useless? Is that part of the thing? Kerneth should be on a biobad next door after being sucked in the face by Jakote.

Yeah, fucking broken jaw. Yeah. This forgetful beam has worked because it is very clear to everyone there that these memories are fading. And Kellyn goes in for that double handhold that you see people have in hospital beds. And she just begs him, do not let me forget our super spicy romance. And so Dr. Cote is determined to find the, you know, if Kerneth hit her on the suck setting,

he wants to find out if that Reiga and has a blow setting. The unfortunate thing about this person's name is that Kerneth is actually my full name. Kurn is the nickname that my friends and family use. Properly I'm referred to as Kurneth, son of Mogue. What a cruel coincidence that another man on the opposite side of the galaxy would share that appellation.

I'm giving you an order. I'm giving you an order. It's bad under spirit. I'm giving you an order. I'm giving you an U of just cross the line. Kerneth is in the break and not Six Bay and Chico De goes to visit. And he's there to figure out how to reverse the effects of the beam and also give this guy a light roughing up by the lapels.

Seems like Chico De sort of wishes they were on a somewhat more make-wee-spaced system of justice on this ship. He's like, tell me how to unwipe what has been wiped, because we were really, really close to having sex and I feel like you just hit the sex snooze button. And that's the second time that's happened in this episode in a way. So just, whatever you can do,

because I'm really trying to get over this cardassian lady. It wasn't that long ago. That shit went down with her. I feel like I got a good chance here. Look around, Jicote. There aren't that many potential mates out here. What do you make of Kurneth as a threatening character here? I was very threatened by his confidence and his elocution. He had real like the confidence of someone who was like a military admiral. He just seemed totally unflappable here. Right.

Even if I know how the emitter works, I wouldn't tell you. And not a dark way, not an A. I'm going to kill you in your entire crew kind of way, but just an A professional. This is what I'm here to do. And I did it and it's our way. And we are utterly confident in our reasons for that. And also like there is a low key confidence

in saying like yeah, like it's a technology that I use, but I don't know, I don't know how the gun works. Like I'm not an engineer, I'm a fucking cop. Ha ha ha ha. Look, I just pull something out of my holster and shoe and I don't know what it is. Yeah, they tell me what to pull out. It's unfortunate that this is the first time in the episode where I actually drew the eternal sunshine of a spotless mind comparison.

I was like, oh yeah, this is kind of a spin on that. Like, this person is forgetting and we don't want her to forget. Yeah, starting to slip out of her mind. And she looks at me like she doesn't even know who I am. It's eternal sunshine of a tattooed mind. Yeah. So it turns out being. Mm, gonna see if I can take that receipt back to LaCuna

and get the fucking deposit back. Oh, I know. Anyway, this guy is not helpful at all. Not willing or helpful. Chico Tey returns to his quarters, her quarters. Anyways, the mess of the broken glass has been cleaned up and she's sitting there and she's like, I don't know who you are,

but there's a mess here. So if you could send somebody down here to deal with all this broken glass, that would be great. I love the idea that he might have walked into our recorders and they're decorated exactly like this. Where did you get this college poster? I thought I had the only one. Wait, you like the usual suspects too? She has utterly forgotten about him. Can I be friends with him, sir? But the thing about this Kellen character

is that like her personality is still there. Her personality wasn't wiped, it was just the memories of Chico Te. And so when he begins telling her about them, I mean, she's not angry with him. She's still Virginia Madsen about it, but she doesn't take it very well. She's not intrigued. She's kind of, I mean, she says she's unsettled by this revelation and that she needs to go home. It's very uncomfortable. It was uncomfortable for both of them. Like it was as uncomfortable

for her as it was for him at the beginning of the episode to be told, like, hey, yeah, we actually were in love and you just don't remember it. He's like, well, why don't we just like give it a try, baby. And she's like, don't be a fucking idiot. I have to go back to my people and like, face the music.

Yeah, this is rough. It's not a terrible deal for him though, right? Because he's not going to remember the hurt feelings. And also he probably didn't knock her up, and that's good too, this time. Extremely low likelihood that she shows up on a FaceTime 3 episodes from now on is like Chico Tay. What I didn't tell you. He's like, sorry, before you go any further, who are you? You may want to go into your paper journals and look at the hand sketches of my weird genitals. Yeah. You may have noticed that the Nike shoe box you keep under your desk wasn't as wet one day last week as it normally is. Oh man, this is rough because I mean she's made her decision and it's pretty final.

She's like, yeah, I wish circumstances were different, but not enough to do anything about this and Chico Te's expression here. This is great Robert Beltrein here too, because he looks like he's looking at a crime scene. Like, we're really in on his face, because he's got a great face through this moment. But it's a love crime scene, Ben. And the stabbing victim is his heart. And so Chico Te beats it out of there. Yeah. What is hell? What is a battle? Yeah. War is hell, love is a battle. Yeah. He goes down to the transport room to see Kellyn and Kernithoff gives Kernith back his mind erasing weapon.

You know, I like mind erasers too, but I usually have those over in neulixes. Yeah. After hours. You know what I'm saying? And he's like, well, best of luck. Here's your diabolical enforcement tool of your fascist regime. Have a great time.

This moment where Kellyn smiles at Chicoete a little bit, you might even say wonly. Hmm, Ben, there seems to be a suggestion that she may in fact remember. Chico Tay, do you believe that that's a part of this scene? Or am I just projecting? I sort of interpreted it as a like, Porsche Muck smile.

That's so fucking sad. Yeah. Oh no. And that like he is interpreting it in a like, maybe she really remembers way. You really know what that smile looks like too. I do I do. That's why it was so familiar to me. Especially when somebody that looks like Virginia Madsen breaks it out. It's like seeing that once or twice. Yikes. It really takes me back. Yeah. Two. Yesterday.

Every night of my marriage. The button on the episode is Tricote writing longhand his personal log about what has happened. This is computer virus proof. They can't wipe the record of the ballpoint pen on a piece of paper. Neelik's sidles up to Jakote and he's like, you fucking idiot man, why didn't you have Kellyn write things out longhand? And then you present her own written words, then she believes she loves you

because it's her own handwriting. And that's the end of the episode. And then we slowly push in on Chico Day's face. As he realizes his error and he's like, turn the ship around. God, fucking givin' something good idea! Ah! Are we taking like fucking sense of the back-and-times to myself of two days ago?

So I don't fucking, oh god. Is there a sun nearby we can go around? Counterclockwise? My watch says it looks like you've taken a hard fall. Whoa, I've never gotten that before. My freak out has triggered a new reaction. Wow. I'm okay watch. But really, this is a moment where Nelix...

What? Nelix is like blow hard love allergy where he's like, yeah, like who knows, man? Like how did he get so smart about this? He's not, he's an idiot. Yeah. Shut up, Nelix. Get out of here. Leave that pot of coffee and get the fuck out of here. Look at your feet rubbed on the holodeck, Nelix. Get out of here. Leave that pot of coffee and get the fuck out of here.

Go get your feet rubbed on the holodeck, Nelix. Well, you don't know what you're talking about. Yeah. That's the end of the episode. Go get your wine bottle machine gun down the holodeck, Nelix. Did you like this episode, Ben? You know, I've made a video to get along with close to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that I'm not sure if it's a good idea to say that very fun to see Virginia Madsen in this episode. And I think she is a really interesting casting choice

for this character. And I think it's a really well-directed episode, but I think the script has some kind of big problems with it. So it's one of those episodes where it's really fun to watch, but it's like the script doctor inside your mind has to stay outside the screening room when you watch this one. Yeah. I feel the same way. I mean, in many ways, this is Chico Tei's the perfect

mate episode, right? I think the idea is that as a viewer, you're supposed to feel like the big one got away. Right. And you're supposed to be rooting for Chico Tei and Kellyn. But by an episode believing that, they're also saying that we should not believe in the efficacy of a Janeway chico-te relationship and then we shouldn't be shipping them. I think this episode fails to understand how strong that interest is. Right. Because if that, like absent that, I think you're totally along for the idea that this is If that like absent that, I think you're totally along for the idea that this is, or maybe Chico day's perfect mate. But I think there's so much, Janeway, so absent in this episode, I think because for her

to be in it any more than she is, would just serve as a reminder of like the person that Chico day should really be with. True. And they're like, well, we can't have her in this. We need to make this about Kellin and Shikote, but that's not enough. It's not enough for us to want it in the same way. So in that way, what we're left with is like,

kind of a relatable summer fling kind of episode where like, Oh yeah, I've had tons of those. Your fling goes away after summer back to her own college and you go back to yours and like you think you could keep it together, but that's not really how it works. Yeah, that always happened to me back in those days.

Yep. Always. So many people wanted to spend some time with me. I know, Dan. I know. Well, how'd you like to read some messages from people who want to spend a little bit of time with us? That sounds good. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel.

Need a supplemental link. Supplement? Supplement. Supplement. Yeah, it's extra. But the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. And I've got a couple of p-wans in the inbox today. The first one is from Tenderoni. It's the anger noodle.

Goes like this. Dear noodle, by the time you get this, I will have moved. And you'll always be in my thoughts. Thank you for the many wonderful adventures for introducing me to this show, F1, and the showy. I'll always remember our trip together, our impromptu calls, horse time, and your smile when we dance, or when seeing a puffer. Until our next adventure, man, that sounds like anger noodle and tenderoni have a real chocote-kelin' type relationship. Perhaps even a summer fling.

But it's an always remember, not a never-remember. Sure. Kerneth didn't get involved in this one. Yeah. Tinderoni wanted you to read this message, and not me, that's pretty specific here. Yeah, what's that about? And yet you're on record knowing nothing of a summer fling.

Hahaha. Interesting choice. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're both pastas, right? Tendoroni and anger noodle. Mm-hmm. Yep, and I do make delicious pasta.

So it seems like there's some compatibility there. We got a lot of skills as a chef, as a pasta chef. You know, I don't got a lick of Italian in my heritage, but good at pasta. Ben our second priority when mentioned is from Terry, the interruptor of Atlanta, and it is too Scott of Detroit. And what did Terry do to interrupt Atlanta? I don't know. This is about to find out with this message that goes like this, thank you for the surprise

P1 call out in episode 433. We met on Front Row in Atlanta. After listing TGG hilarious malapropisms, agreed one more is needed. In show, Adam said, I take Umbridge. With Scott aching me on, I called out, no, you take Uxbridge. Wow. When Adam looked down at me and said, hey, we do the show from up here. It was the thrill of a lifetime.

Oh, Terry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry for snapping at you like that. But also this was a very rocky tour in terms of participation from the audience. Yeah, a lot of people in the audience that thought maybe they should probably contribute as well. I don't like people yelling, know at me from the crowd. Like telling me I did something wrong during a show. I think probably extra punchy during the Atlanta show also because the green room was so stinky at that venue. It was a beer brewery and the in the green room had clearly been used to like mash in beer

so it smelled fermented in there. Some real highs and lows of that Atlanta show, for sure. Yeah. I'll never smell a green room that bad again. Like, that's the one to which all others will be measured. That's the, yeah, the new high water mark in Smelliest Green Room, which trust me, an elite group of green rooms are in that conversation.

That's true. Yeah. I mean, we would have to be green rooming in a dumpster to get worse than that. And I don't mean in terms of cleanliness necessarily, just in terms of scent. Ooh, there's a lot. I'll never forget it. Yeah. Wow.

Well, I just had such a great time recording this set of P1s with your Adam despite being interrupted by Terry and yeah despite not knowing my tenderronian angry noodle wanted me to read that specific P1. Yeah. Look, if I had to choose who was gonna read my P1 I would choose you also. I clearly was a stumble fast during my own reading. Yeah, I mean nobody's gonna know that because of the edit, but uh... Perfect editing once again by Wendy. Trust us, Adam really fucking blew it. I can't read his P1.

If you'd like to get us to stumble through your P1, head to maximumfund.org slash jembo tron, book one today. Hey, Ben. What's that, Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Drunk Shimoda! I'm gonna give it to... ...Ands and Harry Kim again.

I think there's a weird undercurrent about Harry Kim with regard to seven in this episode, like almost the writer of the episode wanted to make fun of Harry Kim for not closing the deal with seven. Yeah, I'm done with that story. Not interested. And yeah, like it seems like just as weird that seven is as boneheaded about human interactions. The episode fails to like take any delight in that. Yeah. You know, Harry Kim is an innocent bystander in this episode just lights him up. Like, I don't like that. I don't either. I'm done with Kim being a punchline. I'm ready to reestablish him as the stickman of the show. Yeah.

Do not care for any episode that endeavors to punchline Harry Kim. So he's my drunk Shimoda because I just want to honor him and respect the drunk Shimoda that I believe he can be. Ben, my Shimoda is a video Shimoda. Wow. If you scroll your way to 31 minutes and eight seconds, you'll see a background actor that we have sometimes described as a contest winner in that here's the thing.

So the corridors on Voyager curve, everybody knows this. Mm-hmm. Because they're a loop. It's a circle. Except if you're staying in Kellyn's apartment, at which point you're to dead end. This guy unfortunately finds a path around the loop that keeps him in the three shot between Chicoet and Tuvac

in a way that seems very unintentional, but very self-aware. Because he's making a face of a guy who's like, that seems very unintentional, but very self-aware. Because he's making a face of a guy who's like, oh God, I cannot seem to not be center frame here. And it's kind of freaking me out. And how am I gonna get around this guy? Like, there's a face to him that I could not take my eyes off of.

And when he finally gets around to the left side of the frame, I was relieved almost. Yeah, he has the energy of like, when you have like a sort of entry level job at a company and like, this is not your boss's boss. This is like, bosses from a different department, but like, people whose first names get tossed around

in meetings, you know, like they're, they're, they're high up in the world. I suppose to know. You're scared in meetings. Yeah, you know, like they're they're they're high up. If you're supposed to know you're scared of them. Yeah. And like, fuck, I'm fucking behind them. And they're having like some intense conversation in the hallway. Like, let me see how hard I can work to get them to not notice me. Yeah.

This episode was was really directed well by Andrew Robinson. But I think this is one of those situations where you got to get a second take. Yeah. This episode was really directed well by Andrew Robinson, but I think this is one of those situations where you got to get a second take. Yeah. To just move this guy around in the back a little bit, or move him from the center of a three shot to behind one of them so that he can pass. But the pace of walking is the same. Like there's just no movement in the frame for him, and that's what makes it really tough. Yeah. like there's just no movement in the frame for him and that's what makes it really tough.

Yeah. Tough situation. The like close quarters of a hallway are a thing that they have on Deep Space 9 but we didn't visit that often and I wonder if an actor that had come from next gen or Voyager would not have made the same blocking choice as a director. It's this is such a convention question like this is the nerdiest of the nerdy in terms of like I wonder

I really wonder what's going on in a scene like this. What you mean like a major plot moment or like a story arc for a character? No, the blocking of that extra. Like how you walk. There's an extra in that scene. It kind of has like my haircut. And he doesn't get blown out of an airlock and I'm sort of wondering like, what goes? It's a very Star Trek Las Vegas panel.

A panel just filled with background actors. In a couple of years, that's all it's going to be at Star Trek Las Vegas. Right. And we're going to be up there going, I've got a question. I appear to be the only one attending this convention anymore. There are 3,000 seats and I'm the one in the front row. Yeah, I'm glad you meet all these hot dogs, though. Anyway, if you could tell me what it's like to walk

on these different sets, really like, geriaded your answer because no one gives a shit about him and out times of these things. Seriously. Take your answer over there. Get a like. Well, Adam, it's time that we decide how the next episode is gonna go.

I think that there's a very low likelihood that the next episode is going to be, as boozy as the last two have been. I like a little Saki buzz. I feel great right now. Yeah. Well you got dinner plans, right? Yeah, in like an hour. Oh,

that's plenty of time to chill out a little bit. Okay. Good. Well, we have some interesting, some interesting stuff ahead of us. We've got a Eisen-Covard square that we could hit. We also have a banger that we could hit. So we're on square 18 looking at some potential excitement ahead. And I'm going to go ahead and roll this bone. Oh, but first I should tell you about season 4 episode 23, Living Witness, an alien species claims that the worship Voyager was responsible for war crimes committed against them. Sounds pretty intense. It does.

I'd like to see them prove that. Yeah, yeah. It would be a lot easier to prove if anyone on the Starship FHD or could remember. You're required to learn as you play, Role. We need a Kurneth shirt to go along with a kurn shirt. Adam, I rolled a five. Oh, Tula, did I win? Harvick, springing us forward to square 23. We're on the doorstep of that

banger, but we didn't hit anything. So we're going to have a reg app next week. How about that? Not anything. Put this in range of a fucking bathtub episode. Yep. Yep. That'll be fun. Fucking quitting the show.

We hit that. We hit that bathtub episode so many times. I don't know if we've ever hit Kenara with Demar, for example, we for sure hit that bathtub. I'm about to move. I'm moving this weekend. And that could be done in a different bathtub. Hmm. Wow. New bathtub, who does? I mean, I'll hate it just as much as any other bathtub episode. The other option we haven't discussed is I now have a giant inflatable pool in my backyard.

So we could do that, but... Did you fix it? I thought you were telling me that it had a hurl in it. It didn't wind up having a hurl. What? I don't know where the water went, the water left. So... One day.

So just to tell the friend to disorder what happened, a pool in your backyard, an inflatable above ground pool in your backyard that you set up lovingly for your wife's pregnancy comfort was full on one day and then completely empty the next and there's no explanation for how that happened. Don't know why it happens. Don't, we don't even have any leads.

Like we've got guys working in the crime lab around the clock on this. But yeah. You're suggesting that we do the bathtub episode together in the inflatable above ground pool. Yeah. I mean, like, it wouldn't be a

strictly speaking naked now episode because I'm not willing to be nude in front of you. Thank you. Thank you for saying the obvious. This is a professional workplace at home. Yeah.

But, uh, but we can get in a pool together is what I'm saying. Yeah, we could, but have we ever done the show outside? Because that's an aspect to your proposition that is intriguing and deeply embarrassing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it'd be in a backyard, nobody could see. The cadre of yappy dogs from my neighbor's yard might interrupt. I can just see Wendy shaking her head across the country. Like, do not fucking do this to me, you guys. Do not make me make you sound good.

Do not make me edit parrots out of the episode because of the fucking parrots that live in your neighborhood. All right, well, let's just hope we don't hit that square. It sounds like we have some options if we do. And, you know, how do I pivot into credits after that? I don't know. These squawking parrots of our lives really... ... are those who go to MaximumFund.org slash join.

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