The Greatest Generation - Orb Refractory Period (DS9 S2E24)

Episode Date: August 6, 2018

When Vedek Bareil gets a powerful Kai Election, Kira gets fairly hot under the collar. But when Vichy allegations start getting tossed around liberally, the Bajoran Papacy might go to someone who can cause Keiko some real problems. How do you pronounce a French thing? How could we have made that Michael Dukakis photo-op worse? Is wet leather an important waypoint on the path to nirvana? It’s an episode that will double down on last week’s challenge to unsubscribe. Come see us live on tour with Greatest Gen Khan🎉🎉🎉! Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Prophets!

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drunk from the last episode. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pryanaka. I've made a mistake at him. Oh. I went to the kitchen and I opened the fridge and I saw that I had a bottle of tonic water in there that had been opened about a week ago, and I was like, well, it would be a shame to let that go to waste, so I made myself a gin and tonic.

That's what you need. We're recording this right on the heels of our last episode. I guess last week's episode, from the perspective of the majority of people experiencing this unfortunate situation. Oh boy. So if you haven't unsubscribed at that point, we're gonna give you another crack at it right here. Yeah, another punch to the groin is inbound. Yeah, our podcast is often confused with a punch to the groin.

It's why people don't like to listen to it in their cars on the work. Right, it works. Yeah, it could cause a lot of vehicular accidents, but this gym in town, it's quite nice, TBH. Are you keeping the party going on your side? Oh, I've switched to a buffer water bin. That's a smart move.

Gotta hold it together. I attempted to do a buffer water hang last night. Of course, everybody knows we're recording this on July 5th. So last night, I was like about three beers in and I was like, I think a, a sparkly water would be a nice move at this point, open the fridge, nothing but La Croix in there. So, you don't like that, it's too much flavor. I'll, I'll slum it in the La Croix hang for one drink or whatever. But. Gee, thanks.

What are you, are you a stock holder of La Croix? No, I just think it's easy to obtain. Yeah. Quite delicious. Here's the problem with you, Adam. You live in the Pacific Northwest. A land to which sparkly water was essentially unknown about five years ago. And I know this because I spent several long months going to Seattle and Tacoma working

on my documentary, which I'm still not done with. And I, a New Yorker at the time, was a big fan of sparkle water. So I was like, oh, I'll check into this long-term house rental that I'm doing so that I can make my movie. It'll go, I'll go hit the grocery store, I'll get some breakfast cereal, I'll get some stuff to make like, case of the isn't shit, I'll get myself a bunch of sparkle water. I love that shit. It was hard to find, honestly, hard to find. Like I would like go around to different grocery stores and be like, yeah, we don't sell anything in the seltzer category at all. And then suddenly LaCroix is in there. And you guys are all like, I love the idea of

you, a visitor to our city asking a grocery store employee if they had anything in the seltzer category. Do you think the way you formed the question might have been a problem with the answer that you got? No Adam, because it just wasn't available. That was the issue. And what I have to compare this to is that at the same time, I was often flying JFK to LAX I was often flying JFK to LAX and ordering myself a club soda or a celture water as an in-flight beverage. You know, it's just very important person shuttle flight right there. The LAX to JFK, huh? And by the time they get back to my dumb section of the plane,

they'd say, sir, what was your like to drink? And I would say, I'll take a celtzer water or a club soda, whatever you got. And they say, sorry, we're out. It's a very popular drink on this particular route. And we run out about row 30 and you're in row 34. So sorry. Oh boy, this is pre-bend getting platinum butt plug status with the airline. Like, you're not a row, you're not a row 35 person.

You're in the teens at least. You're permanent teens, Ben. I felt really bad the other day because I was on a flight back from a video gig and they had booked me on my airline of choice and they had booked a couple of other people that were also participants in the thing that I am shooting on my airline of choice.

And these are people who are more important than I am in the project that I am working on right now. Not in the eyes of an airline, Ben. But in the eyes of the airline, I am a platinum butt plug. So I was sitting in first class and these two people boarded the flight. And so I had to like go on the like corporate slack channel and say like, hey, listen, if this comes up, I got upgraded for free to first class. And I was on an economy ticket. Those two people probably saw me sitting in first

class and wondered why I'm being flown first class and they are not. And I feel really bad about that. Just taking the resting state amount of guilt that Ben has. And then, ratcheting that up to make it professional guilt. And then finally, class guilt. It's like the guilt trinity you had to deal with. You had to absolve yourself from it, Ben. Yeah, I'd like two nights before I had been participating in a power and privilege workshop with these people.

So I was at the cis-gendered straight white male sitting in first class saying, like, good to see you guys, okay. If you're playing the greatest Jen Bingo game and you have the Virtue signal square, go ahead and put your ink blotter on that one. One square closer to blackout Bingo. I might have to cancel the program, Adam. You're a real piece of shit.

Finally, we're at the real piece of shit portion of the run. Why does it make me- It's a truth that I've always known. Why is it even- That was a virtue signal to say that I'm aware of my privilege. No, that's not it at all, man. It's that you go to conferences. It's the conference element of it.

Going to conferences is one of the most dangerous things I do. If somebody's's gonna turn me into a Romulan sleeper agent on the way home. Sacramento is truly the Pacifica of California. That's for sure. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I would never seek to make you feel bad about how much you care about things. These are important matters. Here's the thing. And you're doing great work. So you would seek to make me feel bad about those things, but I have granted you prior consent to make me feel bad about those things for comedy. So that's right.

There were mates to be seen whether or not I've held my part of that bargain. Yeah. Probably. So if you have laughed at this, you know, send us an email, I guess, if not, like send us an email also. And then I'll evaluate my friendship with Adam based on this information. I'm just going to say this. Don't send us any email unless it's an emergency. Emergency email, only is the policy from here on out. Conradio received emergency action message. recommend alert one, recommend alert one.

I'm just gonna let's see how many we've let it get up to. We almost reached inbox zero a while ago and we are now back up to 107. Are we really? Yeah, it's fucked up. It's bad. What? Yeah, it's not good. I have inbox box 10. Why am I seeing a different number than you?

107 emails. You probably have, yeah, you have 10 unopened emails, but like we have a method of processing. This is impossible. I feel like I've never understood our method of processing and I think that that's the main problem. There are rules here. Our inbox has not Vietnam been.

You read the email, you respond to the email, you file it in processed, that folder. Yeah, I think you've probably explained that to me, but I don't really know what type A is and I don't know what type B is, but I feel like whatever we are, we're different type. Yeah, that could be. That's why we have so much fun talking to each other, because it's like talking to

a crazy person. I just hate this sort of email, damn, at least. I want to be free from it. Yeah. And I think our viewers can help by taking it easy on the emails. Well, let's just take a quick survey here. I see Brian Irwin, a beloved friend of Jisoto who is going to go to our DC live show. And he took great photographs at our last DC live show and is offering to take them again.

I see, speaking of DC, I see AJ Deg it's offering to take them again. I see speaking of DC, I see AJ Degregorio offering to take us on a tour of a NASA site before our DC live show. Boy, you did a great job with that name, by the way, for how drunk you are. Wow. AJ Degregorio came to our Toronto show last year just so that he could give us some eclipse-watching glasses that we needed very badly when we went to Boston and the eclipse happened. for a Toronto show last year, just so that he could give us some eclipse watching glasses that we needed very badly when we went to Boston and the eclipse happened. Yeah, that guy's great. I still have those glasses. Yeah. You just go where you want to go.

My, uh, my, this is fine dog. My stuffed plush, this is fine dog is wearing those glasses as we speak. I don't know what that means. Oh, you've seen this is fine dog, haven't you? I see a... I'm going to Jackie and Laurie show this to you right now. I see an email in here from Derek saying greetings from the warm honeyd bosom. And anything from the warm honeyd bosom is obviously of great importance to us.

So I'd say don't stop sending us email. Sounds like you're going for the job of email guy. And you've got it. Fuck off. Maybe next year we can make one of our pledgicles having Rob's Rob's Rob's Handle email for us. We are eventually going to load up Rob's Rob's Rob's with so much work that he will quit and then we will be

totally and completely fucked Hey, come for it, Syrix, come for it, come for it, come for it, come for it, come for us to unreliable idiots Yeah, that's great, that won't backfire Adam, what will backfire is this next episode of Star Trek Deep Space 9? Do you want to get into it? Yeah, the decision to do this episode being that backfire. It's season 2 episode 24, the collaborator. Do you realize how incredible this is? Ah! Ah!

Ah! Ah! No, of course you don't. It's an episode built around Dream Sequences been three of them to be precise. Yeah, it's kind of a three-temple type of episode. Vettig-Rile is having some orbhangs. Do you think he hits this orb whenever he wants or he needs to get permission to hit that orb? I think as a vet, you have fairly liberal orb privileges.

The orb clearly has office hours, right? There's probably orb interruptus. Do you think he has, like, he ever has conversations where he needs to check his orb privilege? Like, oh, obviously, like, I get to orb a lot more than you guys do, and it's legal, given my status, given my situation. Do you think you need an orb refractory period

after where you can just like chill out? Just think about Kira in a onesie playing handball. All right. Like, you can't just a onesie playing handball. All right. Like you can't just hit that orb over and over again, probably. It's too powerful. I don't know. I mean, he's seeing some pretty chilling shit

in his orbit experiences. And I don't want to give too much away about my opinion of this episode. But I would say that him seeing chilling shit in this in these orbic experiences is kind of a betrayal of the ultimate reveal in this episode. What do you think of these dream sequences? Like, I feel like they try to make them nightmarish, to make them nightmarish, but they aren't necessarily effective in like instilling any kind of fear. It's just like the sort of thing where you try to explain a dream to someone else, and it's just scenes that are sort of loosely related to one another, and then the person you're telling

your dream about, to sort of like like stares off into the middle distance, not really invested in them in any way. The eyes gloss over. Yeah. I feel like they are at once more disjointed than previous or experiences that we've seen, and also more explicitly messaging than or breaks appearances we've seen.

Like people have interpreted their profit encounters in the past on this show. I feel like these sequences are like telling us explicitly what they want us to take away from them. It's parallel back. No, it's not. It's not. It's you. One thing for Sherbin is that the guy who plays Vedic Barrel has it in his contract that he needs to be shirtless.

And every episode he's in, because like before theme song, he's shirtless in this episode. Ben, what do you make of a shirtless Vedic barriol? I hit it. He's got kind of hot dad vibes, right? Yeah, he's got a nice tan. He's taken care of himself. He's obviously hitting the gym.

But he's not, he doesn't have like a weight room body. He just has like generally in shape body. He just has like, generally in shape body. He has 90s toned, dad body. Like, when I was at the pool at Max FondCon, someone took my picture there. Oh yeah? It was a thing that I didn't really enjoy, but I felt like to tell this person not to take your picture,

I feel like would have been to start a thing. Uh huh. So I didn't not to take your picture. I feel like it would have been to Start a thing. Uh-huh. So I didn't want to start that thing. So he's were they like creeps atting you? Where they know no no no without asking permission or anything a bunch of people are taking pictures at max fun con This is like part of what happens there. They're documenting the occasion Uh-huh one such person was there taking pictures and I was in the pool. And as you are in the pool, you're wearing swim trunks. And this person took my picture and totally unsolicited was like, hey, your body.

Not a great way to start a sentence. Yeah. Your body isn't bad or aspirational. What? That's a sentence somebody actually said to you? Yeah. Yikes. Yeah.

I would argue that Vedic Mariles body, both good and aspirational. Yeah. We would be so lucky to look that good. In the three years it'll take for us to be that age. F***ing A. He's having a pretty romantic hang with Kira. Like, she's got the kind of like must-up post-coital hair

that like, she's being like ultra sexy almost in the way she was as Mirror Universe Kira. You're supposed to be relaxed. I'm very relaxed. You know like hypersexual Kira is not an unfamiliar character to us at this point. And this is like hyperseual prime universe Kira having a hypersexual hang with her sexy friend, right? Yeah. I love this about her. She's like very confident in her feelings toward him.

I don't know that they've quite gotten to, like, I love you, I love you, point of their relationship, but they are, they have a really passionate connection, you know? And- Yeah, like the tension of will they want they is long gone. Yeah. They have. They will. They, they do. And also they like, you know, spread themselves out on a shez long and look all sexy for each other.

Is that a you pronounce that? Yes. How do you pronounce it? Was that a word for chez lounge? Yeah, it's a French term and it's pronounced chez long. You pronounce the name of a furniture incorrectly. That is something that Fishi French guy would say. But yeah, like there's some big kai shik afoot, right? Yeah, there's an election. And she's kind of turned on by this.

Like, the fact that he is kind of a shoe in for Bajorin Pope. She digs on power. Guess so. I don't know if that's why she fell for him initially. Is it? Because he was power adjacent and he had a line to the throne. I don't know. I thought she fell for him because he's super handsome and chill.

Well, here's maybe the only way that the crossover had any kind of effect on any other episode in the short term. And that is there's a scene in the last episode where Prime Kira, in her attempt to manipulate Mirror Kira, is like, hey, you gotta teach me your ways, because there's sort of a power vacuum on Beijor, that I feel like I can fill that. I wonder if that's a part of what's happening here, is like her coziness to Barrel is a way for her to gain some influence that she really wants.

Yeah, I wish we had talked about that last episode down that you bring that up, because that scene I wondered is she saying that to manipulate this power-hungry iteration of herself or does real Kirin or Reese does prime Kirin or Reese really crave this amount of influence. And if she did that would be a pretty surprising character trait given like obviously she's impassioned and wants to be there in the mix doing the right thing,

but I never got the sense that she was power hungry, you know. And I didn't get the sense that she was power thirsty, as the millennials say. I really think it's weird that Kayo Paka is chilling out on some prison planet somewhere and like she doesn't send any mail. Like you could ask Kayopaka what she feels like about a given situation but no one does. Yeah, we could get her take on all of this.

Yeah, that's some real hardcore shit right there. Like do you think she assumed that someone would try to reach out to her on matters having to do with Bejor? She's been writing a letter every day and not seeing any response and is just like, uh, wow, not really what I was picturing about this interaction. She's just waiting by the phone for her grandkids to call. It's very sad. That's kind of like setting the table. We have a scene where they're walking around on the promenade and they bump into their old, their old good-time buddy, Vedic Win. I had no idea you were on the stage. It is, you know, being, being her old,

unlikable self, you know, she, uh, she says some shit about how the prophets will love you if you love them and Browell, Browell gets in the jab of, Hey, you know what? I think their love is unconditional. And I think that that's what's really cool about them. He's kind of the like the youth pastor of Vetics. Sure. There haven't a real like Seattle style conversation, like two neighbors that hate each other

like meeting on a sidewalk somewhere like really throwing haymakers but in a really civil kind of way. Nothing pleases me more than providing you with an opposing viewpoint better Quinn. Somehow you never failed to do that. Here is like it's it's surprising to see you Should I put like a dozen fire extinguishers next to Kiko's school while you're here? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha birthday or something? I would love love to just have one scene where K-O-C's fettic wind in this episode and has like a panic attack, you know? Just like, what this lady is capable of

has previously been established as like kind of a shit ton, you know? Like, it can never be pinned to her, you know? It's like the house at the beginning of Sicario, full of dead bodies, you know. It's like the house at the beginning of Sicario full of dead bodies, you know, owned by the drug dealer, but you can never prove it. Especially because like everyone's attitudes towards her could be described as mixed at best. It would be nice to get someone all the way over on the side of hostile. Right. And that was what Kako was. Like she was like, Kako fucking rode for, hey, we're

gonna teach science and truth and not your religion at my school. That was like the cool thing about Kako in that episode. And I almost feel like you can't have a win episode without K-co. Yeah, this should be a package. Should be a package deal. Sort of like the way that there's an anti-package deal with Baryle and his shirt. So too, there should be a package deal with win and K-co.

Hey, you chocolate, am I keen about you? No, but I'm not chocolate. We also get a scene where kind of like a distinguished older bejorin gentleman is walking his way up the promenade and as a bump into with a random guy and the guy recognizes him and this older gentleman turns out to be Kubis Oak, kind of a Vishi Bajoran. Yeah, no shit. I was momentarily distracted by this guy's leather can-cousy. Like, it looks like he's got a cooler

and he's on his way to a fishing trip. Oh, the guy that bumps into him? Yeah, it doesn't look like a very comfortable shoulder carry for him. It's got dimensionality in a way that a igloo would, except for its made out of natural materials in the way that an igloo never would. Right. It's a beautiful bag. It's never going to fit in that carry-on cage, though, at the gate.

When is the igloo corporation, or like the Coleman corporation, you know, gonna come out with a natural material insulated bag like this, where we can put a six pack in and walk around the promenade and know that our beers are stained cold. Like that's what you want.

You wanna mix your leather with moisture. Everyone knows this yeah That's that's the path to spiritual enlightenment Make make the interior swayed Tweet interior Making a cooler out of PVC as a war crime Making a cooler out of PVC as a war crime! That's a dumb joke, I'm sorry. This guy gets made though, is the thing.

The guy sort of double takes him and he's like holy shit. This is the thing that I like. You poop as oak. Yeah, I love that this happens on DS9 from time to time where somebody is walking around in public and gets kind of a rabble around them. And it happens right in front of Odo's office. So he kind of comes out and he's like, Mr. Ralky.

What's going on here? And they're like, this guy's coo-pissed, and Odo's like, oh, nice to meet you, sir. Anyways, come with me. You're under arrest. Yeah, like, good thing it happened right outside of that office because Oodo clearly wasn't working customs when the ships were coming in. Like, how did this guy get through? Yeah, there's a lot of questions about how TSA works on DS9.

Yeah. It would have been nice to see him in the queue and then get up to the guy and he's like, what's your purpose for visiting Beep Space 9, business or pleasure and then get up to the guy and he's like, what's your purse for visiting Beep Space Nine, business or pleasure, and then like look through his passport and see all the other planets he's visited. Oh, you spent a lot of time on a cardancier, I see. What were you doing there, Mr. Oak, you know? I guess my head cannon is.

The customs agent was so thrown by the idea of a leather lined cooler from the guy that went through before that he was just totally distracted. I'm sorry man, I'm just like, did you see that guy's cooler? What the fuck? That was a dope cooler. Like, what is that run? Like, is that like a $2,500 cooler? Or, like, what are we talking about here? Hahaha.

Is it a heritage piece? Like, can you pass that down? Like, is it going to last? Like, can you fill a leather thing up with ice and water and cans of liquid and have it survive? Yet, it was like you you think you want to spend $500 on a cooler how'd you like to spend $5,000 on a cooler? Fuck you! Yeah you think your Yeti is fancy? Well check this out! You have to rub it with

shoe polish every two weeks or it goes bad! Hey! It's your brother Marvin! Marvin Yeti? You know that new cooler he would try to decide? We'll listen to this! Yeah, we all know the sounds that coolers make. He holds his phone up to a leather cooler. The last bit is my Marvin Yeti and his brother are estranged by the way. The last bit of this scene is Mr. Kubis making pretty intense eyes with Fedek Wynne. Who happens to just be wandering around? Yeah, the kind of eyes the criminals make to each other. Hmm

And would you like another dream sequence? Yeah, lay a dream sequence on me buddy. Well in dream sequence to the dreamening Two dream two sequence you can tell it to dream because Vedic win is nice to Vedic baryle initially and then we get a kind of a smash to kayopaka appearing and then asking him to walk in her footfalls because her path should be his destiny. Message! Gold to costume. The cup. Gold to costume.

So, what did you think about the Kai costumes? Because she had a very specific costume. Sure. And then he has a very specific costume. Like in the dream sequence, like version of Barrel as Kai, he has a very specific look that is super distinct from the way Kai O'Pocket was dressed.

I think the tragedy of Beryl, you know, of the potential of Beryl becoming Kai is that he'd have to wear a shirt all the time. And I think that's what makes this dream sequence a nightmare. Yeah. O'Pocket is not going to be that liberated of a Kai, but like you would, you like the hope that Braille would. Yeah. You know, like the long arc of history, Ben's torches, justice. It's morning on Bezier. Yeah. And Braille sleeps shirtless. Yeah. The orbs, the, the profits, they want to give beryl a gift, right?

And the gift is a hat box full of a angry snake. And then he reaches into the hat box and pulls out a noose. Yeah, the noose is a bit of imagery that has, you know, we've seen it before Adam, the a bit of imagery that has, you know, we've seen it before Adam, the previous dream sequence had a guy hanging from the promenade. So... The fuck is he talking about? Yeah, this isn't the sort of news that he would tie around the door handle of a hotel room, and then proceed to jacket.

This is a... He's not a comedian in 2003 or No, it appears that a burrow's hidden the dream maker pretty hard here indeed Adam And this is like I think that These dream sequences are a little bit heavy-handed, you know, they're They're kind of saying a very specific thing, like, you're dead meat, you're not... It's a very coarse head in your bed kind of situation. Right, like, they're making him an offer, he can't refuse.

And you don't get the sense that you see a dream sequence like this and Also have this guy wind up getting elected Pope, right? Yes, that's it exactly. I think You know what's weird about all these dream sequences is that like there's never the cold sweat wake-up scene is that like there's never the cold sweat wake up scene that Barrel gets. He just sort of takes his hands off at the orb and then closes the box that they come in. And it's like nothing ever happened. And it's here, Mika, Mika, hey, Mika, hey, hey. Yeah.

I mean, he's obviously not psyched about what he's hearing, but he's also not like terrorized by it in a way that I kind of think he could have been like, I don't know, I'm so torn about these dream sequences because I think that they're an interesting narrative device, but I don't think that they're that well used in this episode, and I don't think that they kind of are, I think think we use them but not for this, you know. I really wonder if they shot a bunch of versions of this where their reactions are different. Like this seems like a decision that isn't necessarily on the page. Like this feels like a directed decision versus a story decision.

Yeah. I don't know. I mean, you probably don't have the same, like you don't have like a Judd Aptow amount of money and time to shoot all these sequences and get like different versions and then test it and see what plays the best. But this is an episode that is all setting the table.

It's setting the table for season three and setting the table for a new reality. And the like the work that they do to kind of tear this character down, I feel is weird and not what I would want them to pick. Especially because if you're just doing the fantasy draft of who to destroy on DS9. Yeah. That's your barile would be a very high pick. But maybe that's why they seek to destroy him. I think that it is. I think that's something that's super different about Deep Space 9 and TNG too.

Like, the characters that we like and that are good on Deep Space 9, find themselves in harder and more intractable situations. Especially because by destroying Baryle, what you're really destroying is Kira. Yeah, exactly. Like Kira does not get what she wants in Beryl being destroyed. Even though like, she has like stated differences with him.

Like, decency and honor on Vajor, go away when Beryl is not elevated to top of the heat, right? Right. And that's really interesting. Like, whatever Captain Picard represented on TNG, and like, the thing that he believed starfleet to be. Are you talking about when Captain Picard was good on the series or when he turned into

a sociopath nightmare person in first contact? I'm just saying like when he interacts with the brass and the brass disagrees with him, it's so upsetting because it's like he really puts starfleet on a pedestal. Like the thing, like the sociopolitical ideals it represents. And Kirra's relationship with Bayjor is much more like, this is my home and I love it and I love the people there. Whatever their ideals are, like it's less complicated in a certain way.

But I think this episode is a similar challenge for Kirra about Bayjor has Picard occasionally gets about Starfleet, which is, like, this is the holy of holies and we're going to kind of antagonize it a little bit. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, the admirals aren't necessarily trustworthy as an episode type that makes Picard feel terror and The holy people aren't necessarily trustworthy as an episode type that like cuts to the quick for

major Kira There's another similarity at work here, which is like Just as unlikeable as the admiralty is in TNG So too is the religious faction on Beijor. Like, I don't even think Vedic Barrel is drawn in a way that makes you particularly like him, other than because Kira likes him, you know? Yeah, I mean, she doesn't even like his view about scripture. Like, they're kind of the like Democrat

and Republican couple in a way. Like they kind of, they talk about the fact that they don't talk about it. Oh, I think Paralle enjoys sex way too much to be a Republican. Yeah, I think I think Kira's kind of the Republican. Oh, interesting. In this couple, like she's kind of a hardliner.

Well, I'm just not going to broke any of that kind of criticism of Kira I just I can't do it especially after crossover. I hope you'll just permit me my ongoing fantasy You can't think a woman that would wear an outfit like that could ever have a fascist Political opinion. Yeah, it's pretty hard to square. Fair enough, Adam. I don't necessarily disagree with that. One thing about Kuba's oak bin is that if you close your eyes and you really think about

it, he sounds exactly like Alan Alda, right? Exactly! I never doubted your ability to handle a situation, Odo. You always were good at your job. He's Alan Alding! And how are you guys going to shoot the dinosaurs? Is this going to be a forced respective? I mean, he's either Alan Alding or like Tom Silving. I brought a small Skid Steer Loa that will drill 48 and 15. Yeah, he's got a very specific kind of vocal effect. You know, he's like, if we get to collaborate with an invading fire in power, you're going to want to do it under the cover of being a member of the government that is positioned in the Vichy section of the country.

You're gonna want to make sure those tank treads don't sink into the mud. Which is why when I'm constructing a new road, you want to lay down some good pea gravel, a good 12 to 15 inches. I'm not it, I'm not an appaer. I'm fucking an appaer. Mr. Bucket, I have to revert back to my dead state. Oh, no, I don't use the bucket anymore. They go visit this dude in the lock up, right? He's been detained by Odo, and Odo is there like monologueing at him,

and then there's like that fun reveal where it's like, oh no, you thought this was gonna be an Odo monologue? No, no, it's a cure monologue. A jurors my home, I never should have left it. But you did. I think he kind of came with the impression that he was under somebody's protection. You know, the like intense look exchange between him and Vettekwin

it implies that he felt like he was going to be okay, but she has some like legitimate moral complaints with this guy. Like he collaborated with the Nazis, what are they called? The Kardashians. And he's been living on Kardashian since the occupation, which means, you know, he like those guys. There's an incident that's referred to a couple of times in this episode called the Kendra Valley Massacre, which isn't the wine mixer that your mom's friend Kendra drank too much at,

and then knocked over a couple of tables. It's not the girl you attempted to go down on in college that you didn't do a great job on. And she went to bed, disappointed. And you went to bed, drunk. You'll have to be more specific, man. That's not enough detail for me to... Anyway, so...

Kendra P. Sure. Oh, right. That one. Anyway, so... Kendra P. Sure. Oh right, that one. This guy was involved in a situation where 43 people got killed and it's all his fault because he outed this resistance base in the valley, the Kendra Valley. And it was his intel that got these people killed. And this was such a terrible circumstance that these were rebels who had a base of operations and among these rebels was the son of Kayopaka. Right. So the pejoran religion does not forbid reproduction

among its clergy. In a real enemy of my enemy is my friend, kind of deal. Vetic wind grants kubasok sanctuary, mostly because Kira hates him. It seems like. Yeah. Yeah, like Vetic wind is one of the all-time great villains, I feel like, because what is motivating her is a hunger for power, but the way she pursues it is by like, kind of making

everybody's life a lot messier. Yeah. She's the parent. No one wants to invite to the holiday dinner, but you're obligated to. Right. Yeah. The relative that has a lot of opinions about the catering at your wedding, but is nonetheless supposed to be there. Yeah. She's the leader of the very unpopular Bless You Child party on Bayshore.

And she's even blessing Cisco, the emissary. Like, she really hates that he is the center of her religion. You know, but she's not gonna let that shaper. Yeah, she's not gonna let that stop her rise to the like secondary seat in her religion. Sure. Like, he is the Jesus to her Pope, right? God, I'd never thought of it that way, but now that I have, there's no one thinking it. But like, imagine if the Pope was like, I'm kind of lukewarm on Jesus. I don't think we can talk about what I would choose

to talk about in relation to the Pope, but what Kira and Odo need to corroborate some of this information that they're getting from Kubas and the Brigh and so they go to Odo's computer to check it out and they realize that Vedic win has used this computer, has borrowed it for a little bit of googling. And she did not erase her history. Yeah. Which is like the number one thing you have to do when you're using a public machine.

Yeah. If you go to the kinkos to print something out and you don't then log back out of your Google, bad booth, you know. The thing that makes me hate Vedic win even more than I did already was that she's a screen tetcher. They mention that they need to wipe the screen after she uses the computer. It's terrible. Yeah, don't touch the screen.

It's a very highly sensitive piece of material, you know. So her actions are a little suspect here. Yeah, I mean, the election is coming up. And she and Braille are the front runners in the make, beijor, great again election. Fettic Braille is kind of a shirtless Michael Ducakis. And Bettic Win is a less-lankable Margaret Thatcher type. Like Margaret Thatcher with a weird hat.

Yeah, but- Does that summarize the race in an effective way, I think so? I guess so. I'd say that the only difference is that Vedic Brow is posing for any like totally embarrassing photo opportunities. Yeah. Just a magic of... Imagine if Michael Dukakis had been wearing the tank helmet but also had been shirtless. It's a worse look, isn't it? You didn't think that look could be worse. No, that you found a way to make it worse. Yeah, but he's also like not really defending himself.

Yeah, but he's also not really defending himself. He has a very deep and close connection with Kira, and yet he is not being open with her. He's not helping her. She's kind of like stuck her nose into this to the extent that Vennik win is like, hey, you're going to be the leader of this investigation and the profit has for ordained that. So that's your job. And I hope you'll keep me in the loop on what you find out, because whatever you do find

out, it could be a really influence this upcoming election. So like she is in a relationship with Browell and also wants Browell to win. She doesn't really agree with everything Browell stands for, but she's also like duty bound to get to the bottom of this situation. Right. The situation being the bombshell that Kubis Oaks said that the Kendra Valley massacre wasn't just about Prylar Beck revealing the location of the rebels. It's that Vedic Baryl ordered him to disclose that fact. And so Vedic Wynne asks Kira to lead the investigation on whether or not this is true. And um, Prylar Beck is one of the people that Prylar kept seeing in his dream sequences,

like he's the guy that was getting hanged, but then it wasn't Prylar Beck, it was Vedic Rael that got hanged, man. He's the guy that's jerking off into hotel rooms tied to the door handle. Yeah, he's the is the guy from Kung Fu, the legend continues. Right. He's got some real Michael Hutchins vibes. He's got the devil inside, Ben. Shit dog. So it's a lot of like looking at a computer file and finding that a record has been wiped and then finding a way to find the record and then finding that part of that record has been wiped. Lost a planet? Master Obi-Wan has. How embarrassing. And seeing thing who has scanned their retina, who hasn't, and a lot of like pretty, I think a lot of the

like last third of this episode is some kind of facile writer's room, like, oh, we'll just make up some techno babble about, oh, these are the mathematical representations of part of somebody's retinal scan. Because someone erased it from the archive memory. It doesn't quite add up to feeling like you understand how any of this stuff works. Truly wonderful, the mind of a child is. You're just going to have to take their word for it that the investigation is real. The most satisfying part of cop show, the genre, is like hitting the streets and interviewing suspects and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like, and like instead of finding interesting physical evidence, is it turns it into forensic computing. And that's a thing that even the CSI show

has the good sense to not lean on entirely. You gotta get out of the lab at some point, but a ton of this episode is spent doing computer. Yeah, getting a brain to do some computer, getting dax to do some computer getting dax to do some computer getting Oto to do some computer Showing some stuff on a screen. It's like just like eight numbers pop up and it's like The holes were still a concern like if the bowls like for the rest of season two or like

Chewing through wires and then like in this scene stopping them from doing the investigation. Oh, yeah We had like three quarters of the retinus scan, but then we lost it because they're bowls Give me those bowls give me those bowls any day of the week. Do you think mirror universe of goals are like like helpful? Splice and wires together. Yeah, they're little little little O'Brien's putting everything back together. The investigation all of this crap reveals that Beryl appears to have deleted a bunch of computer files that would strongly implicate him in having called the shots, called the Prylar Beck betrayal. He was the top guy, he made some call that led the good Prylar to betray 43 people

to the Cardiastians. Morning, morning, morning, Steve, sweet, more, more, morning, you need to hear everybody, more and stop, have a time. Here is rightly destroyed by this news and confronts Vettik Barrel about it. And Vettik Barrel pretty matter effectively comes clean about it. Like to the degree that he's like, don't ask me because I'm going to tell you and it's

going to hurt you. Right. to the degree that he's like, don't ask me because I'm gonna tell you and it's gonna hurt you. Right, like she walks in on him as he's closing the zombie box and he's like psyched to see her and she really opens the cannon up on him. She's like, I just saw some shit in the computer that makes me think that you're behind all of this. Like those people in that massacre

didn't need to lose their lives and the reason they did is you. And that, as like, you know, a totally bought in Bajora Nationalists, the character that Cura is, couldn't be a bigger betrayal. Like this is the man she loves,

and he rode for the wrong team at a time when it really mattered. Kira is the sort of character that like, having made up her mind about a person, pretty much sticks to that. 10 minutes later, Kira is going to kiss this man. Yeah. Yeah, I mean like, and the thing that he says to her, like, I was really surprised in this moment that it didn't draw her back over is he says like, hey listen, like, I had

to do what I had to do because if the Cardassian didn't get some very specific intel, what they would have done is just go through this whole region, every town, every person, man, woman, children, and killed all of them. I'd probably saved 1,200 people for betraying these 43. Like, needs are the many outweigh the needs of the few. I did what I had to do. It was a really tough time, and the moral implications of every choice I made were not clear, and she is like, fuck you.

Fuck you for portraying rebels. Like these were the people that were actually changing the game for Bajorans. Kira could have totally lost those 1200 people for 43 rebels. Yeah, she doesn't see it that way. This new math that Bariol is spitting, she's not down. Like, any you, Oomlaut math? Yeah. Kira doesn't prescribe to that kind of equation. Kira was on the resistance, which means like, no deal.

No deal of any kind. Yeah. And it's like the biggest betrayal, because not only does it make her hate him, it makes her have to go deliver victory into the lap of Vedic wind, who she fucking hates. Yeah, Vedic wind ends up being a chi wind by the end of it. Yeah, she gets to wear the same...

Like, I wanted to like, like early in the episode I was seeing the dream sequence, Kai Bariol. Kai Bariol, it really doesn't roll off the tongue, but Kai Bariol, a very different costume from Kai Opaaka. And I wondered, does Kai win? Hew more closely to dream sequence, Kai Bariol, or reality, K Reality Kaiopaka. And in fact, she nails what Dream Sequence Kai Bariol wore. Why did she do that? I don't know. How did she pick that costume? Ben, you gotta get a brooding scene here. So we get the single pan flute of doing your duty and revealing your boyfriend to be a collaborator

in the process. Kira's pissed. She is pissed, but what she comes up with by the end is it doesn't really make a lot of sense. Yeah. It's, you know, like she, she has delivered victory to the new Kai, Kai Ratchet. And she's like, but that, it doesn't really comport with what I know about Beryl. Like he's not that dude.

And what she figures out is that he was like all, all of this cover up was not him covering up his own misdeeds. It was him covering up that Kaio Paka, in fact, took that moral stand, took the moral stand of saving the 1200 people for the 43. Kira's reaction to this was my reaction to this. Like, why are you covering for her? She's on a weird prison planet, like throw her under the bus.

Yeah. I mean, it's a big reveal, right? That Opaqa did a thing that is morally ambiguous. She was so anointed at the beginning of this series. Yeah. But I think that's what the series is kind of about, right? It's like the pure becoming impure and having to grapple with that. There's that feeling during the button of this episode of something out of focus,

coming into tight focus, which is like everyone being sad and pissed that they've elected a spiteful and unpredictable leader Like whoa Oh, that's what's gonna happen on this show fuck I'm watching the show as an escape. Yeah, I Don't need this and yeah Yeah, Kira and Vedic Barrel kiss that's back on, but his political career seems over. Yeah. He's just going to have to hang out in the Senate. Yeah. He's going to have to be a Maverick in the Bajoran Senate.

Shirtless Maverick. You've tagged the potential title of the episode. So many times, I don't even know what to say. Good luck, Ben. Did you like this episode? I did. There's so much darker of an episode than I'm used to Star Trek giving us. Mm-hmm. I think it's a table setting episode. It's a, uh, here's a new villain in a way that the Maki episodes kind of were about, you know. I think that Deep Space Nine in a weird way was like a little naval gazing up till this back, back half of season two. And I was like, what do our villains gonna be, you know?

We can't just keep doing TNG. Well, the difference now is that it's not just a villain, but it's a villain with power. Right. And I think giving Ki-Win power was a really great choice for conflict. Like, they can't do anything about it. The election's over. The election's over and we're all going to have to deal with this monster being the tough dog.

You're just going to have to hope this person dies in office or gets impeached or something. Yeah. I mean, I think what you hope is that, like, November comes around and a vending assembly gets elected that is very much opposed to the agenda of this guy. Right. And then eventually, this guy is, in in fact impeached and imprisoned for her crimes and dies penniless and alone. Yeah. I mean, I think you could argue that that when has always been alone, totally incapable

of feeling friendship or love by anyone in a real way. Right. Kind of acting out their own pathology on everybody else in a way that unfortunately echoes through history and in a way that I hope that we learn to avoid in the future. Hmm, well put. Ben, I'm not sure I like this episode.

And I think I don't wanna believe it's because I'm watching Kyra love on someone else. That can't be it. She's free to love who she wants. That's what I want for. I think my problem with episodes having to do with Bariol is that like I Don't understand the charisma like everyone is acting as though he has leadership charisma, but I just don't see it

Like if he even had ginger Jesus amounts of charisma I would I would be like oh, yeah, that's the guy I want him to be leader But I'm not sure I've ever felt a moment where I've wanted Vedic Beryl to be the leader of the Bishurans. He's just mad. Cool. Every time he says, I can be very chisidential. You won't believe how chisidential I could be. Right.

Yeah, it doesn't ring true. I want a root for him, and that's the problem is like the only person I'm rooting for here is Kira. Would you say that your big problem with Vedic Braille is that he had, he was receiving emails on a personal server? Yeah, that was it. That was all it took. And an Odo had to go and do that press conference,

like the day before the election, didn't have to do that. Not a great October surprise, Odo. One thing that never surprises us, Ben, is the rate and quantity of priority one message we have to read on each and every show. What do you say we take a look at that in box. I'd be delighted to add in. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on it. supplement on it? supplement?

supplement? Yeah, it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Adam, we have a priority one message here. It is of a personal nature that is from the Gooch drunk on Mexican clam beer and it is for whatever. So it sounds like the Gucci we've heard from before is is

drunk texting the friends of DeSoto essentially yeah, it goes like this The Gucci's drunk and all I want is here Kevin try to sing faith of the heart Oh, okay, so and then I think we've got some lyrics here You want to do you want to trade off stanzas at them? You know I don't normally like to go to a karaoke bar and sing, and much prefer to just get a booth in the back and enjoy some cheap beers. My shibbulent dash kind of embarrasses me and I don't like to put it on public display. Quite like that. But here it goes. It's been a long way

Getting from there to here It's been a long time But my time is finding here and I can feel the change in the wind right now Nothing's in my way And I'm not gonna hold me down no more Together No, they're not gonna hold me down Christian, get free

Every shot Then it cuts off I think that's the 350 characters. Yeah, that's all you get. What a really dissonant, clangy sound hearing the ice cream truck, but also the backing track. Yeah, what a mess. Yeah. Fuck. Not to praise it. You are well and truly drunk.

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Ono Ross and Kerry, available on MaximumFun.org. Yeah, I did. I mean, it's hard to find a Shimoda in an episode that's so self-serious. Not a lot of fun to be had here, but I think I think I've got to give it to Baryle for for being contractually shirtless. I think that's a that's just a going concern for him that. You just think as agent is that powerful. They were like, yeah, he'll come back. He'll he'll he'll reprise his role as Burial, but yeah, he will reprise it shirtlessly. Yeah, we're going to give him a ton of costume changes. One of them is just going to be pants. What about you, Ben?

Those pants are a little bit like what's the guy from Girls that's in all the news star war movies? Adam Driver? Yeah, the Adam Driver pants from, uh, yeah, from, from last Jedi. One of my favorite parts of the great movie. My Drunk Samota is the guys that hang around with Kai, with Kai win. Yeah. With, with Vedic winic win, the purple men.

I call them the grimaces. The older purple men. Right. I wondered, does Vedic win fuck these dudes? Like, why do they? Are they consorts? Why do they like her? What is in this for them?

Do they believe her politic? Like she's so explicitly power hungry. Like I can't imagine anybody being close to her like and also a devout monk and really buying this shit. I mean, I guess I shouldn't be that naive, but every time I saw these guys around her, I was like, what's in it for this dude?

And she's surrounded by them all the time. You think monk bush is just enormous? Like, do you think that's the biggest bush? Yeah, they're not doing that much monk-scaping. Especially because of all the blousey robes. Like, yeah. Yeah, you're just flowing free. They're living that row-blife.

Sure are. Ben, what do we have coming up on the next episode? The next episode, if you can believe it, is season two episode 25 Tribunal. This is just a trail of tears at this point. Yeah, I'm sure President Jackson had something to do with what is happening to us at this point. O'Brien is arrested by the Cardassians and put on trial for a crime he insists. He did not commit. Oh boy. Some more torturing of O'Brien. Give me some of that.

The Netflix Corporation has it in a slightly different way. It says, while leaving for a vacation with Keko, O'Brien encounters Boone, a former crewmate from the Rutledge. Oh shit, dog. About that. Rutledge callbacks. I do like a nice Rutledge callback. Ben, I'm reading here this is the first episode directed by Avery Brooks. Oh man.

About that. That is exciting. I can't believe there are 26 episodes of season 2. Wasn't it 24 per season on TNG? I'd have to look that up, Ben. It's just a lot of episodes. If you've got 52 weeks a year, they're making a full half a year worth of DS9 episodes. That's a lot of episodes. It's just entirely too many episodes, Ben.

Yeah, firehose of episodes. Getting up to almost the season finale. This is the penultimate episode of season 2. Indeed. Do you want to roll some dice for me, my good friend, and see if, uh, see if we're doing this in a way? I can do that. Uh, we are on square 77, Ben. You're required to learn as you play, roll.

We're on the porch of an nth degree. Episode, let's see what I'm able to do here on these bones. Oh, I've rolled it too. Tula! Did I win? Harvey! Which hops us over the nth degree to the other side. But just barely.

We're on Squirt 79. Three away from a cotton and nebula episode, which is the no-notes episode of your nightmares. Yeah, that's the one I don't want to hit. And we'll have to talk about if we want to change any of these squares for next season. Oh yeah. But he said threateningly. That'll be the next episode, Adam. We got to direct people to our Twitter's. You're on there at Cut for Time. I'm at Benjamin R.

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