The Greatest Generation - Overdressed Caesar (VOY S4E10)
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Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed
to have a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pranica.
That's a great looking shirt man. I think that's one of my favorite shirts that you wear.
Oh thanks man. You think that's one of my favorite shirts that you wear. Oh, thanks, man.
You got some good shirt game.
Oh, I bought this shirt to wear to a wedding
that was very casual, but I still wanted to look nice
for a wedding, so.
Casual is not good enough for you.
That's one thing I know for sure.
It's like in a low-hash shirt.
It's not like a dressy.
Yeah.
It's just got a collar, you know?
Is that a linen shirt? I don't think it's linen. I think it's just maybe a pop one or something like
that. The wife has recently bought some linen sheets. Yeah, I'm all about it, about it, about it.
Here's the thing that I realized about linen. Not soft. It gets softer as you use it.
Oh really? Like I've got to grind my body oils into it
for it to soften up.
It softens up with use and then it's the best sleep in fabric there is.
Really?
Yeah.
Alright, well I won't kick it out of bed then.
Is that why my linen shirts are my least favorite shirts too?
Because they just feel scratchy to me.
Well, you know, everybody's got different different texture stuff so maybe it's just not your
texture.
I'm just a soft boy, is what I am.
Soft boy you doesn't want to be scratched.
Yeah.
I just, I had a bunch of fast food fried chicken right before we recorded.
Oh lordy.
It's a bad choice.
Is this a fast food fried chicken place that does a catchy jingle?
It's a place where I love the chicken.
Oh yeah.
Alright.
That's walkable from my house.
I love that chicken from there too.
Yeah.
Everybody rationalizes bad choices that they make around this kind of thing.
Yeah.
And the way I rationalize this is like, well, it's like about a mile from my house.
So I'm going to walk there and walk back.
Sure.
I'm going to burn some calories, baby.
Not a cool day to day, either.
It is almost 80 on my side of the city.
So it's got to be close to 90 for you.
It's an even 90 over here.
Not a pleasant walk, but...
Lunch gets overlooked, I think, by the food, pyramid, industrial complex, or whatever.
Like, everyone's all about breakfast,
being the most important, but I feel like if I blow lunch,
that's what blows my day.
Yeah, I've done it.
I've done it to myself.
Yeah.
Should I start drinking?
At the way out.
God, is it?
You know what's funny about that is we have a very important job
you and I got hired to do later today.
Yeah.
And we probably shouldn't show up drunk.
We have professional obligations today, unlike most days.
Right.
But I'm also just really excited because I think this is the last
episode before our streaming spotacular.
Is it?
The double dumb ass tour.
Wow.
Yeah.
I think this is,
I think this comes out the Monday that show drops on a Thursday.
Here's the thing, when you're filming me and you,
you're gonna need a lot of time for post.
Post production is gonna be pretty intensive,
cleaning up those faces.
Yeah.
We're gonna need to stack the filters on all these cameras.
Big time. I think yeah I think when we first announced it it may have sound because I don't think
that we we've been thinking so much about this live show. I don't think we thought about how
it's presented and how it's distinct from a lot of these online shows people have done.
We're not doing a stand-up show
where we're sitting in an office yelling into a zoom camera.
It's like a real show.
It's like a comedy special.
It's a real film, Jack.
Can't wait to tell awful jokes
in front of your parents and parents in law.
Knowing that my parents will be far, far away.
Yeah, I have been meaning to bring up to you
that I want to get a brass plaque made
for our friend and agent to put out one of the tables, though.
So he has a nice place to say.
Yeah, I mean, people are going to think that he died
because if you see a brass plaque somewhere like that,
it's normally coming with a birth date and a death date.
Yeah.
But this is just gonna have a birth date.
You know what, that's what we should do.
It should be his name and then in parentheses, not dead.
Just reserved.
Yeah.
Rumors of his death have been exact.
Yeah.
Rumors of the niceness of the species
that the Voyager is visiting have also been exaggerated at him.
You just never know until you get there on Shoreleaf, right?
Mm-hmm.
Turns out this Shoreleaf also has a justice problem.
Mm-hmm.
Let's get into it, Ben.
It's Star Trek Voyager Season 4, episode 10, random thoughts.
The Voyager is an orbit of the Maree home world, and when she starts talking about friendly
aliens, I'm just clap my hands together and rubbing them ready to see some luck. What about plain old basic sex?
You must have some need for that.
We've been really stacking them and racking them on the greatest generation in terms of like
pace of watch and recording.
We're trying to build up some bank shows ahead of your upcoming fatherhood responsibilities.
And the family leave you'll be taking, then I'm very glad we'll be able to You're an extra in Shimoda. Yeah, Adams R.H.R. Department and he like
Really worried over the paperwork to see if our company would be willing to grant me this
Let me tell you something when when I'm your HR department your company isn't big trouble
Anyway
My point is did you feel a little bit of
Post-traumatic stress getting out of Year of Hell and coming into shoreleave?
Like I wasn't quite ready to let go of the vigilance of always being attacked all the time.
Yeah, but nobody on the ship remembers Year of Hell.
Exactly.
They didn't have a Year of Hell.
I just need to get over it.
Yeah.
That was what I didn't like about the end of your hell.
I was like, that was all for nothing.
Yeah.
They didn't learn anything from that.
Yeah, it was all a dream really kind of doesn't hit the way
you might like it to.
Yeah.
Like Patrick Duffy gets out of a shower.
Oh, funny.
Good morning.
And the camera doesn't even pan down.
It's just sad.
He was just having a shower, Jack, to gear up L-part one and two.
It's the only way he can get over the top.
This episode opens with Tom and Nielix in the transport
of room hanging out.
Tom waiting for Belana to come back from the surface.
Nielix heading down to the surface.
He's planning on getting a stick wet
with somebody named Tally
and he has really drenched himself in musk.
A lot of two-way tension here, I feel like,
his Paris is back with what looks to be a bundle
of tax documents or tax document paraphernalia.
And he looks like, cool, where'd you get those?
Because I'm on my way to do the same.
Paris is like, ah, what?
What does that smell?
Are you wearing clone? I've been swimming in raw sewage very
Intracing scent don't you think me looks you got to spray the musk into the air and just walk through the cloud
Yeah, you know, yeah, he's wearing talaxi and panther the cologne that 10% of the time works 20% of the time
It is not a good smell in there.
And the transporter room is a small room.
Yeah, the chief is just passed out
behind the controls in the back.
Yeah, I'm sure you get all sorts of smells
in the transporter room.
That's probably a uniquely smelly place
for all the comings and goings of people.
Yeah, Nielix is doing something that horny people
have been doing for time and memoriam,
finding a pretext to see the person that he wants to see.
It's true.
This is a produce purchasing trip, but eventually he's going to throw all those fresh fruits
and vegetables in the garbage can if the night goes the way he's hoping it's going to
go.
That's right.
I mean, maybe keep a couple of them for the night's dance. You know what I'm saying? Hmm. What are the chances that like half of all
alien produce is sentient in some way that you don't expect? Don't stick me in.
He's got kind of a cucumber-y-shaped thing and he's going at her crotch and she's like, no, no, down here and she points at her knees.
Come on, Nielix, you gotta be a giving lever.
You gotta lick some knee.
The captain and BLT are buying some technology equipment from this guy,
Guil, who stole Chico Te's Caesar cut and won't give it back.
It's kind of a wet Caesar, isn't it?
It's an overdressed Caesar.
Really is. That's the surest way to ruin a salad.
The dressing is really thick and a little bit heavy, so it kind of weighs those leaves down a little bit.
Captain is having a fun time like practicing
her haggling skills.
This is not something that you're used to
when you grow up in a moneyless society.
And it's like on hard mode
because she's haggling with a telepath.
Yeah, extra hard to do.
They both kind of laugh about it like,
oh, this is impossible, isn't it?
Sure is.
Telepads.
You're ripping off.
Yeah.
Where did they get the money?
Good question.
They must have traded something for local currency.
Like, she must have had like antique glasses
that she sold somewhere.
That's always like, you're excited to go to a new place.
But like, when the first stop is the bank or the money
Exchangeer in the airport like it's not a fun tone setter is it?
Speaking of non-fun tone setters a guy barges into BLT
She's not even standing out in the middle of a thoroughfare. This is why she takes such great umbrage.
Her what the fuck is totally credible.
Why are you walking there, man?
Yeah.
So he apologizes, they part ways and Gwil
is like very, very concerned about BLT.
And I thought for sure that the way this episode was gonna go,
was Gwil was gonna be putting the moves on.
And then Tom Paris was gonna get super angry
because he does that thing where he puts his hands
on our shoulders.
Yeah.
Don't put your hands on somebody's shoulders
when you don't know them.
And like, it's overdoing it.
Like if you're an emotional first responder
to a situation like this,
like you're ratcheting up the bad vibes.
Yeah.
By overdoing it this way.
You're making it seem more serious than it actually was.
Exactly, it's just some idiot not watching where they're going.
So Nelix is over talking to Tally and he cannot keep his thoughts in his pants.
The melon lady and Nelix have a conversation that's spoken entirely in Antandra.
I don't think you'll find them very sweet.
And Tally, just to let Nielix down
easy, that her fruit just isn't going to be as tasty
as she was hoping it would be.
Go how wonderfully tart.
And she hopes that's going to be all right for him.
And Nielix is like, that's fine.
I like unusual tastes.
I wasn't expecting you to come by the stand today today and I haven't taken a shower since last night.
Yeah, you don't even have to wash the fruit, really.
What she can tell by getting up into his head is that Nelix is hungry for a tug job.
That is what you're thinking, isn't it? That you'd like me to tug on your whiskers?
And she's a willing participant in that. So yeah, she suggests when she knocks off work
that they can pursue that line of inquiry. This starting now is an episode that forces
you to accept that the crew of the Voyager are just going to eat shit for being here on this
planet.
Because I don't understand why it's okay to just allow them arey into your heads because
oh it's just their way.
They're just very invasive.
Yeah, could they not make like a special helmet that they could all wear down to the surface
to reduce unwanted advances?
They're totally just being telepathically cucked because it's all mari traditions and none of the
federations requests here. Like they could ask, hey, while we're down here on shore leave,
we're not really comfortable with the whole mind probing.
We just wanna buy your melons and flirt a little bit.
Is that okay?
Yeah, speaking of melons, Adam,
Tuvak is walking with a familiar lady
who is not rocking a boob window in this particular costume.
It's why I didn't recognize her except by voice.
Human females are so repulsive.
In this episode she's called Namiro, but we of course all know her as Bitor.
That's right. Yeah.
And she's a member of the local constabulary and she's explaining the wonderful achievement of
the Mari people of having eradicated crime and violence from their society. If you call yourself a constable or a constabulator or whatever,
Namiara calls herself A-Cab still works.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
Don't have to change it.
Yeah.
A Tuvac is more than happy to do a little career day
walk-in-talk with Namiara.
Namiara is extremely proud of her culture
and how little crime there is there.
All thanks to her and her team.
And would really like to know how Tuvac
runs his piece of shit security operation
just like for shits and giggles, right?
One thing that really struck me about the way Namiura relates to Tuvac
in this episode is that she has such great admiration for his achievements
as a person that suppresses violence.
Namiura, who told you he was so fucking great?
Had to come from somewhere else, or it came from Tuvac in a scene that we didn't see.
Yeah, and she's just like the most trusting constable
in the galaxy.
Yeah.
When they make plans to go up to the ship,
we hear a crash, and actually like a series of crashes.
And when we see what's going on,
it's the dude who ran into BLT,
just beating the shit out of a guy and his clay pot.
Yeah.
And this guy had it coming because two places
you don't bring your fragile earthware
are the car chase portion of a Michael Bay movie
and a Star Trek bizarre.
Right.
Those things are going down.
Mm-hmm.
You know, like in the 90s, when everybody was worried
that kids would take what they learned in video games and apply them to their real lives
Mm-hmm. This guy's been playing a ton of legend of Zelda. Yeah, the way he treats these clay pots. No
Do you ever just look at a thing and want to smash it?
Like a clay pot. Yeah, yeah, I remember when Grand Theft Auto 4 came out and it was set in New York and I lived in New York and I played it a bunch
I would like walk outside and I'd be like I could just get on any one of these motorcycles and just ride it away
Yeah, and I want to be clear like not out of any sense of violence or whatever, but just like to satisfyingly break a thing
So it doesn't seem like the local Mari people really know how to react to somebody acting
a fool quite like this.
So it falls to Captain Janeway and Nielix to wrestle this guy to the ground and take
his weapon away from him and talk some sense into him.
And he's like, I don't know what happened man
what's going on I just saw these pots and wanted to smash
I also saw the shopkeeper wanted to smash him too
violence is uh is not as over in the marie civilization as is genuinely known. Why were you beating that man? I don't know.
After the title sequence,
Tuvak is giving that tour that he promised to Namiara,
and she is really perplexed at the idea of a brig.
This is a concept that she's never encountered before.
This is really classic passive aggression
here. She's doing that thing where she's asking a bunch of questions about a thing she doesn't agree
with. Yeah. So, why jail? Really? So, yeah, punish people for being bad and does that help them
be better? Have you found that it works?
So it's interesting that your crime statistics are so low,
and yet the resources allocated to fight it are so great.
I mean, if we were to consider the spaces
and a ship a budget, kind of a lot of that budget
is going towards the brigh and the ways that you run it,
kind of feels like you're self-justifying.
Yeah, yeah.
You're your jab here.
And does anyone feel safe, Tuvac?
When you're around.
Speaking of crime statistics, he tosses out that the brigh
has been occupied for less than 1% of the voyagers mission
in the Delta quadrant so far.
Just like, would you say that that's slightly less than 1% too much? When you're in a shuttlecraft behind another
shuttlecraft, do you find that people just don't know how to act around you? They
fly five miles under the shuttlecraft speed limit. Do you find that you negatively
affect the flow of traffic
just with your very present?
Namiro kind of grows into a great umbrage
with the idea of the brig before Kim radios
end to interrupt saying that some clay pots are down.
Repeat, clay pots are down.
There's been some sort of attack in the marketplace.
And we cut back to the surface and,
oh, what a drag for Nelix.
Oh, this girl that he was so close with.
Now she's traumatized by seeing this violence.
There's no gonna be sex after that.
Yeah, I mean, very difficult to justify a tug job with someone who is shell-shocked.
Like, anybody staring into the middle distance cannot be ethically asked to perform a tug job, right?
If you are getting a tug job and you looked up and saw the person staring into the middle distance,
you have to put a stop to the proceedings right then and there.
I don't think consent is possible under the circumstances, Nelix. You just need to let go of the idea
of a tug job right here and now. Yeah. He's trying to comfort her, but this is just not something that
people on this planet are used to and over with the captain and BLT and twovac. Namiura is talking about taking them into custody
to ask them some questions.
And Tuvac is like, what are you getting at here?
Like they were just bystanders.
Like they stopped the attack.
Yeah.
Were you subjecting them to interrogation?
It seems unusual in this moment,
but Namiura kind of waves it off
as like, we want to hear about what everyone's, uh, the idea anybody.
TV guy was in the bushes. He heard it mostly. Well, we'll take him into the question every
minute. She's she's walking around the the shattered remains of the past. She's walking around the shattered remains.
She's just pointing at things.
And she goes, there M.O. was that there good?
When they broke the one pot, they didn't hesitate.
They took out the rest of the pots because at that point, what's the difference?
Check the crowbar, run it through
the computer, you'll probably get a phone book back, run it anyway. So we get this rashamon style
interrogation scene where it's cutting between Janeway, BLT and Mielex and they're in this
chair that's kind of like a clip show device that records your telepathic
signals well, you're being questioned.
This scene blew me away because when Namiara introduces the idea of what's going to happen,
like she, she says what's going to happen, then she does it, and then she says it's going
to happen after. Janeway does that thing where you say the same thing
right after the person speaking has said it,
also known as the Adam.
But I thought in this scene it was because she was freaked out
and she was like hitting the brakes on the moment.
She's like, I'm going to stick you in that chair
and then I'm going to get in those brains
and I'm going to see what you saw.
And she's like, you're going to stick me in that chair and get into these brains and so saw. And she's like, you're gonna stick me in that chair
and get into these brains and so forth.
And I was like, well great,
she's never gonna cop to this.
She's totally game.
I guess it'll be pretty tough to keep a secret from you,
huh?
Why is everyone okay with this?
I don't know, because it's their way.
That's like the whole case that they keep making is like,
we can't pick and choose which local laws we observe.
I swear, Ben.
The Voyager is eventually going to do shoreleaf on a planet
where everyone seems really nice.
And then everyone just gets fucking murdered
because they're told that they're gonna sit down
for a nice interview in a room that locks from the outside
with some weird chair in it.
Yeah, sorry, that's just the law here.
Yeah.
That's how the law works here.
I don't like it.
We didn't pass it.
Our leaders passed it.
Whatever the Star Trek equivalent of Street Smart is, I don't feel like is happening in
this episode.
Yeah.
We tried to have common sense laws on this planet, but our...
Yeah.
Our Supreme Court is run by absolute assholes.
Not only that, like, are we supposed to forget the last time the crew had a run in with telepaths?
BLT uncovered a genocide. Yeah. Maybe we should just chill out on the telepaths.
Tell we can figure out what's going on. Yeah. Oh no.
Until we can figure out what's going on. Yeah.
Oh no.
Uh, Neelix not super forthcoming with his tug job thoughts when he's asked about those.
What else would I be thinking about?
And equally not forthcoming as BLT when she's asked if she had any violent thoughts toward
the man that barged into her
in the market.
How am I supposed to remember it?
Yes or no, did you think about hurting him?
I mean, you do have loaf of cling on.
You have a retaliatory type of loaf, so we're just especially interested if that thought
crossed your mind.
And when she finally admits that it may have slipped into her brain, that she could
swang on this dude, she is immediately arrested.
Yeah.
Violent thought is the case that they gave her.
Hostile thought is against the law.
I mean, part of what sells the great umbridge that everyone takes is how smug Namiara is about this. She's
like case closed everyone. I figured it out. We're just gonna take BLT to be
lightly lobotomized and our problem will be solved. It's not gonna be like
throwing in a brig like you bunch of savages up on your ship.
Fucking barbarians. Anyways, yeah, our system is cool as hell.
We will return a slightly mentally mutilated
chief engineer to your ship
just as soon as we can configure our equipment.
I was squirming in this moment
because I'm like, why is this happening?
Why is Janeway letting this happen?
Why is she approaching this?
Like it's some fun legal project for her to do? She's like, it's okay, BLT. I'm going to scour the
data and maybe we can have some sort of legal remedy to this.
Yeah. Lawyer Janeway has given one day to review the evidence. It does not seem like
one day to review the evidence. It does not seem like anybody is worried that you might not succeed.
This was exactly the moment, and I'm sure you felt the same way where I was like, what would need to happen for this to rise to the level of a rescue mission?
Because I was thinking about it right fucking now.
Perfect black, make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow.
Make it yourself. And the episode starts thinking about it right now as well because Paris is quite
exercised about what's going on down on the surface. And is yelling at the captain about
it and is then trying to talk to your Kote into a rescue plan. Even get to sit in the
big chair to kick this rescue plan to Cote.
This must happen all the time,
the if mom says no, ask dad quality of this moment.
Hey, remember when you punched me in the face?
Remember how you said you owed me one?
Yeah.
This is that.
We gotta break it out.
And so Paris has given the busy work of come up with the
tactical plan for a rescue operation so that if and when the captain fails, we'll have a plan B.
Were you bumped at all by Paris sitting in the big chair? I think it was there for Chicoote to
make a point. Like Chicoote was like setting up a rhetorical flourish like three steps ahead
That's why Paris gives him the look on the way out like nicely done. Yeah, good day to you sir. It's like a friendly nut kick
Like captain still the boss Paris that they're kind of grinning at each other
Like Captain's still the boss Paris that they're kind of grinning at each other. Are there places in your house that you know are yours that like that only you sit or that you prefer to sit?
No, not really.
Or the ways that you sit in them are specific.
I don't really have that.
There's not like a dad's spark-alonger vibe in my house, so.
You would have laughed because I was watching this episode
upstairs on the big TV with the L-shaped couch, right? And my wife always gets the elbow of the L-shaped couch and I sit on the bottom part of the L and then my legs go over the lava to the other arm of the L.
I'm familiar with this seating arrangement.
Linguistics professionals will probably know
what the parts of the L are.
I don't.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And when I saw Paris sit in the captain's chair
and I was thinking about how strange that was,
I was like, my wife is not here.
And yet I'm sitting in this couch as if she were
like in a less comfortable way.
Yeah.
Because that's my spot. And I don't sit in her spot.
Did that inspire you to move over?
No.
Did she sit in the captain's chair?
No.
I sat in my spot the way I sit, even though she wasn't there.
It's weird as hell, huh?
That's very strange.
I also sleep on my side of the bed when we travel, like even though I'm sleeping alone,
I'm in the driver's seat of the bed when we travel, like even though I'm sleeping alone, I'm in the driver's seat of the bed.
I think that my wife and I often swap sides
when we travel.
How could you do that?
We sleep in opposite sides from normal
when we're in the strange bed.
All bets are off in a lot of ways.
The Airbnb.
So after this Plan B conversation,
the captain and Tuvac are in the Ready Room or something,
I guess this is the Ready Room, right? And she and here are talking about, you know,
like what kind of person is Numeria, and then the Captain finds a little flaw in Numeria's theory
of the case. Don't you find that just the least bit curious? There's something about Janeway's attitude here
that seems to relish throwing this in two-box face.
Like two-box has been full of praise in this scene
toward Numeri and the Mari culture.
Yeah.
And the expression on Janeway's face is like,
not that great, huh?
We don't know what she's found here. Yeah.
Until the next scene where they have confronted Namiro with this new evidence.
Turns out, Frane, the bumper slash pot smasher, was a habitual bad thought
have her. What's this guy walk in the streets for? Well, they've mutilated him
plenty. They've really reworked his whole brain.
I don't know, man.
I think you have three violent thoughts.
I think you got to think about keeping the population safe from someone like that, Ben.
Wow.
I'm glad you weren't a voter in the 80s.
Namiro's reaction to this is that, look guys, I know you're really riding for the idea
that three violent strikes in your out and like this guy shouldn't be on the streets.
But let me tell you something, Mr. Frane is a success story here.
We wipe this guy's memory all the time.
We wipe it so often that we actually give this procedure a nickname.
It's called the Kern.
His name was much more complicated before the procedure, but Frane is the only thing he
can hold in his mind. I also love to smash clay pots in any farmer's market that I go to.
One reason I am no longer a border security agent was that anytime I found clay pots in
someone's luggage, I would smash it.
Whether or not it was under the legal limit for personal importations.
Namiro takes great umbridge with two Vox incredulity about Mr. Frayne.
How dare he question their very successful methods.
And she makes the case for like, look, we put the dopey thoughts on the table.
We are like arresting people and lobotomizing them
and like getting police work done.
You can't argue with that, right?
We put a lot of fucking dope on the table.
A lot of it.
Right.
You should see our newspaper.
It's just police,
but their arms around the mayor and...
Yeah.
Dopey thoughts on the table.
The kuda grove, the whole thing is like the classic last resort of the morally
repugnant which is like, look guys, you think I want to be doing this?
Yeah.
You think I want to lobotomize all these people?
No, of course not, but I have to because it's my job.
Yeah.
Too vuck, you know what it's like, right?
Come on man, you get me.
And he's like, yeah no, like I man, you get me. And he's like,
yeah, no, like I totally get you, but I also have a job to do and I'm going to do it.
It's kind of an easy let down, right? Like there does not appear to be a romantic interest
between them, but it feels like that kind of let down, right? Like, yeah, but also this
is a workplace argument
and we aren't gonna see things the same way.
Your form of justice isn't how I would define it personally.
I appreciate your lack of boob window,
not distracting me from the difficult task ahead.
I mean, she is going to do what she is going to do
and she's not going to be convinced
otherwise. And this is like the darkness of her character and the shitty part that runs
through the whole episode is that like she claims justice, but justice is not having a preconception
of the outcome. And that's not how any credible justice system should work. Bad for science, bad for justice.
Yeah.
But there is one bootlicker on the Voyager crew, and that's seven of nine.
Yeah.
Who? Is Pro the Mari justice system?
Did you think they were shopping down there?
It seemed like they were kind of like packing up stuff that they already bought.
Okay.
Like they're like putting it into that hexagonal suitcase
that people in Starfleet always carry around.
I wish that was a little more clear.
Yeah, it was just some like weird light business
that the Dura gave them to do
while they're having this conversation.
But the seventh thing is like,
your whole thing is like seek out new life
and new civilizations, but it's fun, stupid.
And if you're like so careless with your violent thoughts that you're getting in trouble
for them, maybe BLT gets what she deserves.
I mean, seven's kind of saying what I was saying earlier in the show is like, you go
in all do wide on the short leave excursions, expecting everyone who's nice to you
to be actually nice, really.
And how often can it really be like that?
Sometimes you meet people that are rocking
an amazing amount of luck, and then they wanna inject you
with some kind of lethal serum,
just cause you crashed into some flowers.
Nelix has the ultimate retort
for really any argument 7 has towards humanity.
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Over on the other side of the market, the melon lady is pulling some product down for
an old that has walked into her shop area.
Yeah, this old is Envious of her great melon, huh?
Yeah. You're usual selection?
Yes, please.
And mad that she drops them because the moment she does,
she catches a knife to the throat.
Yeah.
Old ladies are fucking murderer.
That old lady's melons dropped long ago.
Hmm.
She's very upset by watching these hit the floor.
Ha ha ha ha. Now, Nelix is never gonna get laid.
Oh no!
RSVP tug job.
And we see the like flashback of the guy bumping into BLT, like mid-murder too.
Yeah.
Teaching the viewer what's going on.
It does seem that way.
Yeah. So later, Nielix is walking with two Valk
extremely slowly in the hallway.
God, he's like speed up, like either stop
or walk a normal pace.
This weird, extremely slow pace is so weird.
I feel like they're doing a setup
on the other end of the corridor.
And this is like all the corridor run
white they had for this scene.
Yeah, so scene's a little longer than we thought.
So if you guys could just try and walk in a pace
where we can capture all of the dialogue here.
The other thing I noticed about this scene
is how congested Tim Russ sounds.
Did the old woman say anything?
Yeah, he does sound a little congested in this.
It's got to be so tough when you're an actor
and you have a very recognizable voice
and a cadence to your speech.
Like any little difference in it
has got to be so frustrating as an actor.
Like when the expectation is that all the time.
Right.
It's not like having a zit or something,
like you can't use makeup on a voice.
You really can.
I mean, you can loop it,
but that's gonna be even weirder.
Yeah.
And you look suggest to Tuvac that maybe there's a connection.
Like this market seems to have like lingering violent thoughts
that are causing attacks to happen left and right.
I was like maybe just close the market. Let's see if the market is the problem and like let's just close the market until we can figure this thing out.
Make it like a super fun thought site, you know, a super thought site.
I mean to what extent are the melons involved? Right. Are people touching a thing that's giving them violent thoughts? They're just getting carried away because they get so excited by the melons involved. Like, are people touching a thing that's giving them violent thoughts?
They're just getting carried away because they get so excited by the melons.
Yeah.
Neelix is like, look man, you get a nail whoever did this.
Do it for me and the tug job that never was.
Look at these sideburns.
Look at them totally untugged.
Can you believe that?
Yeah.
Look at this bent up frustration in these sideburns
Do you think I'm gonna be a good cook if I don't get a tug job soon?
You know how long it's been since Kess broke up with me
I'm gonna to tug job in a long time, dude, you gotta get to the bottom of this
You know we're a long way from talax, which means we're never gonna get me a burns light to take
care of my urges.
I have used it several times, it's way better than being off.
Tovak meets with Namiara and he's like, what is it going on with this second attack?
Like two attacks and two days, like, what's the deal?
And Namiara is very perplexed about this.
She's like, yeah, she's a old lady. She just suddenly had this overwhelming urge
to attack the victim.
And it doesn't make any sense,
because Frayne and Belana are no more near what happens.
I couldn't possibly have been the source
of the violent thought.
And at this point, I think, let Belana out of jail, right?
Don't even continue to threaten to scramble her brains.
Right.
I mean, if we can be sure that it's not solely her
thoughts responsibility for this, yeah.
That's what I thought too, but no one mentions that.
Yeah.
It doesn't come up.
Ha ha.
BLT needs a better legal defense team, I think.
Yeah.
Where is the captain right now?
What is she working on?
Yeah.
Did she find that one little flaw in the mirror's reasoning
and then quit?
They decide to focus their investigation on the old lady
and where she's been the last few days.
Yeah.
Where do you think she's been, Ben?
Mm.
Just the market, the park, and the pharmacy.
Played a little canasta.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tuba goes and suggests a mind-meld to BLT.
And she's like, I don't know about that.
And he's like, no, no, no, it's like a really light one.
Like not gonna be a really heavy mind-meld.
That's what I was gonna say.
As soon as that second hand comes in,
she's like, whoa, I thought.
I thought we were just going
to make out.
This is mind anal.
This is like second date stuff at the earliest.
Do you think she could have used a prison uniform for all of the subsequent scenes after
her being taken into custody?
I think that would have really helped me feel like she was
in greater danger or something.
Like I didn't, I thought she should look different
or look like the experience had been worse for her
than just like having to sit on a bench,
waiting which is what it looks like she's been doing.
It's kind of a problem with the script, right?
Cause like it seems like she would just be free to go
in this society that doesn't even understand
the concept of locking someone up.
Right.
So is she just like hanging around this mind,
mutilation facility for fun?
I don't know.
Could you walk out at any time?
It's hard to tell.
We don't know.
We're meant to connect those dots.
Yeah. But in the double-handed mind meld,
she comes back to Gwil, the guy that she was buying stuff from with the captain,
and he put his hands on her shoulders, and she was creeped out by him.
She didn't like his energy, his vibe, his wet caesar.
Oh, it smells good.
I know all the garlic and the lemon and everything.
She remembers that creepy feeling.
She also remembers something else,
like something so terrible
that she physically breaks the meld with two vach.
Yeah, she did not like that dude.
And so his next stop is to find out
what that something terrible might
have been. And so he catches up with Gwill at night on the surface of the planet and
starts questioning him. And it's pretty clear that Gwill is very curious about the kind
of mental gift shrunk that Tuvac keeps all his violent thoughts bottled up in.
It was also clear to me in this scene that Mr. Gwill has resting Anthony Keeta's face.
Did you get this?
It does sort of look like a person that was made to suck his kiss.
Yeah, I kind of want to see him with a shirt off running at the camera and slow motion.
I did want to see him naked but with a tube sock over his
dong. There's a weird energy to him that I feel like is just a great and
interesting performance and interesting direction for him. Yeah. Like he seems to
run the gamut of like just normal guy walking home from work and a guy with a
very intense stare that wants
to know all of your darkest thoughts.
It like stands just a little bit too close to you and stuff.
Yeah, and the conversation ends as awkwardly as it was.
Like it gets more and more awkward until he turns and leaves and two-vac follows him.
Yeah.
And it doesn't look like he's headed to dinner with his family, like he said he was. No, it's nothing nearly as wholesome as that. He's doing shady back alley deals. Yeah, this other
guy is exchanging currency for something we're not aware of at this point. And two Vox watching the whole
thing from the shadows until he spotted. Yeah. And they're like, why are you following us? And
two Vox is like, well, I actually think I might have a deal for you.
Yeah.
You see, I'm like you.
I've put my violent thoughts on one low bit of time.
This is a strange interaction because Mr. Gwill turns his possible arrest into a bribery
situation.
Yeah.
He's like, couldn't help but notice how you squished those violent thoughts.
I have a bunch myself.
You want to maybe get together sometime and trade these thoughts?
Yeah.
Because the way that he talks about them suggests that he totally gets off on them.
Yeah, he's essentially the webmasterofrotten.com and Dubock is offering him some photos of
somebody whose head got hit by a helicopter blade.
God, I haven't thought about that site in 20 years.
This episode made me think about it for the first time in 20 years.
God. There's this montage of thoughts where Mr. Gwynn shows TuVoc his,
and now it's time for TuVoc to give back.
And it has that energy of Dirk jacking off in front of that guy
in the pickup truck and the third act of Boogie Nights.
Hahaha.
Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing.
Because TuVoc is not ready to whip those thoughts out.
Now, show me my only two few moments to recover.
I'm surprised you so easily tired.
Your telepathic ability is as strong.
Tuvac blames it on stamina.
He's like, I have not done the mental kegels in a long time.
I am very spent.
Yeah, and, and, uh, Gwil wants to see, wants to go deeper, you know, he wants to see the,
the really good stuff and twoVoc is kind of asking about it. He's like, so where do you get your,
your merchandise and he's like, you know, I get it from a lot of places. Some people give it to me, some people trade it with me.
Sometimes I take what I need.
Yikes.
And Tuvak sort of has him on the hook now and he's like,
because this violent thought of Bologna's is, quote,
still in circulation.
How about Tuvak here, like putting himself in danger,
like experiencing the dark thoughts that he's suppressed for so long,
and doing good investigative work in the process.
This is all working.
I love this whole sequence, because it like opens up the,
the like dark underbelly of Mari society, like,
in the way that you would actually find out about it, you know?
Yeah.
It's show not tell.
And he's like, yeah, so like you and Frane both must have gotten a hold of that violent
thought because Frane's had it like expunged from his mind already, but it's still out there.
So somebody's dealing it.
The creepiness with which Tuvac shows interest
and BLT's thought is like a great performance piece.
I thought.
Yeah, yeah.
I have known her for a long time
and she's never let me get that thought.
Ugh, it just makes my skin crawl.
Yeah.
Of course it's locked in.
What?
It picked up this one to me,
and I'm very careful. Because I'm gonna have to see this once.
Oh!
He picks a bad moment to arrest Gwil.
Because he's like, you're coming with me and Gwil's like,
yeah, but I have two tough buddies here with me.
Yeah.
And so they start kicking two Vox ass.
Can't forget about the tough buds.
Yeah.
Seems like the, the Mari are pretty strong, you know,
if three of them can take on a pure blooded Vulcan. I thought the same thing. I
was surprised none of them got put into a jerk cable and thrown across a room.
Or neck pinched like he doesn't get any of them. Maybe he was weakened from the
violent thought hand jobs that he was getting and giving.
Yeah, maybe so.
A lot of tug jobs this episode.
Yeah.
So, two-block is missing and up on the ship they are trying to find him, trying to scan
for him.
He's had his communicator taken away, so no luck. And now they need Namiro's help, you know?
Right, but how helpful can she be?
She's like, I don't know where he is.
I can't find him.
Yeah.
As far as I know, it's just me and a couple of assistants
operating a weird chair.
Like that's the entire department.
Yeah.
I mean, she does say at the beginning of the episode
that their constabulary is like basically obsolete
and doesn't need to have that many people anymore.
It turns out the limits of their telepathy
is just stealing violent thoughts
and like none of it can be used to find a missing person.
Cool. Yeah, yeah, great.
Janeway is like, well, while we're worried about this,
like why don't we send some people down to the service
to like look around?
And also, could you like maybe not do the lobotomy
on I could remember during?
And she's like, no, no, no, no, no, like,
even though evidence proved that BLT
wasn't the only source of this thought in the world,
we're gonna go ahead with the lobotomy
and also you can't send anybody down here
to try and rescue Tufok.
That's ridiculous.
Tom, am I making any sense here?
Paris does a lot of piping up here
during the FaceTime conversation.
Like he talks more than I feel like Janeway and Shikote do.
Yeah.
For their part,
they just kind of look around at each other in silence. She has to kind of glared him down a couple of times like X-Nay on the
Iping Up pay during the Ace Time Faye. We cut directly to BLT being dragged to
the purging and she is not going voluntarily.
It's a fight of a laugh.
You have got to be kidding, it's a pain.
It's a real like welcome Mr. Bond.
Shit.
Okay, he put her in this chair.
There's a light up dildo pointed at the top of her head.
They're gonna start fucking with her brain.
She is a character who has often been medically experimented on
in kind of an unfortunate way, huh?
Yeah.
Leave BLT alone.
Stop doing this to her.
It's the kind of chair you get X-rays in
when you're at the dentist.
Mm.
And that's like worse than the X-ray itself
is like those plastic things they stick into your brain.
Yeah.
To do the lobotomy.
So uncomfortable to hold them in. I was like, how do I bite down on this if you're sticking it into your brain to do the lobotomy, so uncomfortable to hold them in.
I was like, how do I bite down on this
if you're sticking it into my brain?
Yeah.
Elsewhere all the planet, Tuvac,
is being held by these dudes,
and they're like, let's go into his brain
and get more stuff.
And they start doing their mari meld on him.
Mm-hmm.
They're getting some violent images,
but they're just not that violent.
It's like, okay, one guy whose skin is on fire, who cares?
Did you recognize these scenes?
Like, they're from event horizon.
Are they really?
Yeah, and you know what's fucking crazy about that?
It's like, I was playing the timeline in my head,
and I was like, like well event horizon came out
in 97 I think yeah, I looked up when the episode dropped
Event horizon was in theaters
Wow when this episode came out which means that they had a paramount to paramount
Film swap situation where they're like hey, can I get some footage from your movie?
And they totally spliced it in.
What is that called?
Is that telisany?
I think so.
Yeah.
So, if you guys could just give me the most awful parts of Event Horizon for use on our
syndicated television show.
The most awful that aren't going to get us in trouble with the FCC, right?
Right.
And so, someone had to make that decision, right?
Yeah, that must have been a weird
standard in practices meeting.
Yeah.
I also noticed that there was one clip of the nemesis
from Chico Tei's visit to planet war.
Yeah.
That was in there.
That was like the tamous image.
Yeah, so Guil is like, come on, dude, this is weak tea.
Give me the good shit.
A two-box like, alright, hold still.
And he's like, I'm gonna meld you.
And it's not gonna be a light meld.
And then he does one hand.
I don't understand the continuity of the meld anymore.
I thought I understood it.
This episode has completely upended everything I previously thought I knew.
Yeah, maybe lefty is more dominant.
He's got a dominant meld hand.
Oh, it was the right there to moderate the left a little bit
when he did it to BLT.
I don't know.
Now I just kind of want to watch all the melds
to see if I can pick up any tips.
So this meld is not the bloody nose type of meld,
but it is the chokey I can't nose type of meld, but it is the choky, I can't breathe kind of meld
because in the fantasy of the meld,
Tuvac is choking Guil out,
and the Guil in the real world is like losing his breath
and suffering for it.
I think it is so intentional how we don't see
the reverse shot
where the two henchmen are sitting next to two-bock.
Because if we did, we'd be seeing two dudes just straight jacking it.
Because this is the hardest of hardcore, right?
Mm-hmm, they'd be doing a self-tug in this moment.
Yeah.
I mean, we never see them again.
No. Like later, Tvok just has Guil in custody
and takes him up to the ship and puts him in the brig.
Yeah, I mean, maybe those other guys
should also be brought to justice.
Seems like they were a big part of it.
Uh-huh.
Like maybe get the entire ring.
Yeah.
This is when the captain radio's Namedara one more time and it's like you've
got to shut down the thing with BLT. We've like completely figured this thing out and Will is
up on the ship and we can we can present all of the evidence you're going to need to exonerate
Blana and they do. They have a McLaughlin group. A woman with a very similar haircut to Blanna
lets Demira into the conference room
and it only bumped me for a split second
but she's so far back in frame.
I was like, why is Blanna showing her in?
Yeah, that was strange. Strange casting.
So she comes in and it's too vuctous
to be kind of like Sherlock Holmes.
Here's what really went down.
Frane and Gwil were working together.
They knew that Belana had some crazy shit going on under that loaf.
They wanted to get access to it.
So they set up a thing where Frane would knock into her
and they both got the violent thought.
Gwil put it out on the market.
He sold it to that old lady.
Mm-hmm.
Turns out you've got a black market
for bad thoughts going on your planet.
Yeah, and this was like a case of violent thought abusers
getting used to like the weak stepped on thoughts
and then stepping up to a BLT violent thought which is like pure and uncut
and it just totally blew them up.
Damir is such a pearl cletcher receiving this news.
Yeah, Damir is like why would anyone do this in two bucks?
Like it's because they like to jack off to this and Damir is like why?
Why do they jack off? And two bucks is bad because it's fun to do bad things.
For example, smoke on cigarettes. He's like, if you don't believe me, you can
interview Mr. Gwill in the brig. Oh, you know that place you thought was super dumb. Oh, we got the brigg up to 1% baby.
Yeah.
You know we got a place for this.
So she's going to go see to that and you know the doctor gives Lieutenant Torres a clean
bill of health.
He's like, yeah, they only got a couple of your violent thoughts.
And she's like, well, it's an abundant supply, buddy. Yeah. Did you, or they had to do to earn to get his
violent thoughts up? That guy's on Kronos, just mashing clay pots. He's actually a danger
to many people. The Captain's log refuses to speculate on whether there will be any
reforms to the Mari Justice system. Yeah.
Reforms to the justice. That'll be the day. So the button on the episode that we get here is seven,
just barging into Janeway's quarters.
And I hope this is a thing.
Like I hope Seven never rings the doorbell.
I hope she never asks to enter a place.
I hope she just walks in and out of places
because this is fun.
She goes right into Janeway's.
And she's really the Steve Steve Erkel. Yeah.
Star Trek adventure. Like Janeway doesn't get this self-own of
strange new world thing that that seven is trying to attack her
with. Yeah. And Janeway makes the case that like look, this is
Star Trek, baby. Yeah. The risks that we take by following the
Prime Directive and seeking out new life
and new civilizations, this shit is fun for us baby.
Yeah, that's what we're into.
We like simple pleasures, like exploring strange new worlds and edging with other species
legal systems.
That's just me.
That's just something that I enjoy.
I call me crazy.
Call me a pervert.
This is probably the best tug job the ship has gotten in a long time. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha This episode is very silly. I think it's got a lot of big holes. For example, if the Mari don't imprison people,
what is Balana doing the entire time?
Yep.
And generally speaking, like a lot of that stuff,
I think it would bother me in an episode
that wasn't as fun in other ways.
Right.
Like, Tuvar going into the
Mari Underworld.
That whole sequence was so well done and so fun.
And like despite the like incredibly flimsy
to non-existent framework it is built on,
the brutal irony of Gwil being put in jail.
At the end, it's also really fun.
Yeah.
So I mean, I think it's kind of like a B-mediochered episode,
but I had a fun time watching it.
What you said there just made me think
of the possible hypocrisy of Namiara keeping BLT
in a place that we can't see knowing her feelings on Briggs.
Like, what exactly is happening there? Where is she in a five that we can't see knowing her feelings on Briggs. Like, what exactly is happening there?
Where is she in a five star hotel?
Yeah, you know, she's sipping on jippers on a beach somewhere.
This is one of those classic Star Trek is turning an aliens
way of being into a warning for us all episodes,
like in a way that a lot of science fiction tends toward.
Yeah. And in that way, a lot of science fiction tends toward. Yeah.
And in that way, it was a totally fine episode.
But the parts of it that bumped me out of it were how starfleet just gets fucking
cucked by their own prime directive here repeatedly.
And I just think there's a version of this episode that might be more interesting if that
is more of an argument instead of a, well, that's just the letter of the law, man.
And if it means BLT gets lobotomized, like that's what we all signed up for.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just don't think that's right, especially when we know how flexible the prime directive
is in certain circumstances.
Yeah.
Well, do you want to see if there's any prior to one message in the inbox, Adam?
I think I'm just flexible enough to reach them.
Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel.
I need a supplemental link.
A supplemental link?
A supplemental link.
A supplemental link.
Yeah, it's extra.
The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship.
Our first P1 is from Garrett, and it's the Captain Mike, goes like this.
Thanks for the P1 shout out at the Atlanta show, buddy.
Late in the night, we're at first confused,
then delighted at that awesome surprise.
Sadly, your P1 did not hit his heart in the room
as the cosplaying Spock-slash-twayne dude who had the first P1 did not hit his heart in the room as the cosplaying Spock slash Twain dude
who had the first P1.
But yours was our favorite.
Here's hoping we've hung out with you and Sarah
by the time this drops.
Cheers.
Oh geez, Captain Mike shouldn't feel bad at all.
The Spock Mark Twain guy stocked us for many shows.
Yeah, he was at a bunch of them.
Yeah.
We smoked cigars of his in Austin.
I think he was at DC and Atlanta.
Yeah, yeah, he was at a bunch of shows.
Big supporter.
Yeah.
Just as Garrett was here, look at us.
We're, the Spock Twain Guy is stepping on cat
and mic and Garrett again.
God damn it, Spock Twain Guy is stepping on cat Mike and Garrett again. God damn it Spock Twain Guy
I'm excited to go back to Atlanta. Yeah
Good place to visit we will return
Indeed
Ben our next priority when messages from Chris and it is to Andrew
That message goes like this Andrew my twin separated by four years.
Happy 40th.
You're the best brother, and a great dad, and husband too.
You introduced me to greatest gen revolutionizing our twin speak.
Whoa!
Now nobody else can understand us.
And I wouldn't have it any other way.
Happy birthday, brother.
I love you.
B&A? Roll that red
October drop. Or the Roll Aaron drop. Or Bo.
Chris and Andrew, if their twin speak is greatest gen speak, I think you're gonna be
talking a lot like me and Ben. Yes. That's the language that we're fluent in.
That's very special though, that kind of like inside language that two really close people
like to speak with each other.
I feel honored to have worked our way into that for someone.
Yeah.
That's really cool.
Very cool.
Well, if you would like to get a P1 on the show for an upcoming episode, we would love to
have you.
It's maximumfun.org slash jumbo-tron to set it up.
Hey, Ben.
What's that, Adam?
Did you find yourself a drunk smote?
I did.
I think I'm going to give it to Namiara, both for being the kind of cops that is so convinced
of her abilities that she has completely missed a huge criminal syndicate that is operating
right under her nose, but also just for being a bit more fun to see her out from under
the loaf and doing a very different kind of role. And yeah, she's she's covering up other things and revealing something different.
Yeah, and as this character, huh?
Yeah. So Namiro is my drunk Shemota with those two reasons.
Mine is going to be BLT for a specific moment.
When Namiro explains how thought crimes work on her planet, BLT does this wobble
of incredulity. Like, she physically is like, oh, are you fucking serious? In a way that I just really
responded to. Like, I feel like that a lot. Very very fun so good to be acting there
objection noted will do this without
well Adam I got to head over to god that business last game and fire up the game
of but holes the caretaker currently our runabout is on-square 13, and before I get into my role, let me tell you
about our next episode, a Voyager.
It's season 4 episode 11, concerning flight.
When pirates steal some of Voyager's technology, Janeway and Tuvaak discover her holographically
Leonardo da Vinci, who helps them in their search.
Hmm, how do they discover her Leonardo Da Vinci?
Uh-oh.
You get to keep your hollow tax documents.
Password protected, I think.
Do some of his clockwork jack-off machines
just pleasure the pirates into submission?
God, we're going from an episode about tug jobs to a Leonardo Tvinci episode.
This is a golden age for us, Adam.
You're required to learn as you play, Role.
All right, we've got a Quartz bar out ahead that we could hit. We're gonna
have some modifications to the game board soon if I'm not mistaken. But as of
this episode, it's... You're talking about the addition of a certain zone square?
Yeah, it's looking like there may be a zone added. But anyways, we're on,
it's quite a 13 like I said, and I'm gonna go ahead and roll this though.
Wow, I rolled a four.
Tula!
Did I win?
All of it.
Putting us on the doorstep of that Quarx bar,
but not quite on it.
Boy, that is just set and spike for me.
Right.
With how often I roll ones.
It is. But Squarespace 17 is a regular old episode for next week.
Looking forward to it.
Me too, Ben.
Just as I'm looking forward to thanking everyone who made this episode possible.
Yeah.
Beginning, first and foremost, with the friends of DeSoto who support the show financially.
It's the whole reason this entire operation can function.
You can join the Miriam Friends of DeSoto who do that over at MaximumFund.org slash Join.
They help us have the finances to hire Wendy Pretty,
an amazing producer who produces and edits
on our shows
and keeps us in line and organized
in a way that I never thought possible.
Yeah.
Gotta thank Bill Tilly, the card daddy.
Who runs greatest tech social media accounts
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Follow those accounts, they're really fun.
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I don't know. What do people do on Instagram? They just like things, right?
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True.
Great friend to the internet.
And with that, we will be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek
Voyager and an episode of the greatest generation Voyager that's going to have the friends of DeSoto.
Urging Ben and Adam to put a clockwork jack-off square on the game of the bottle. Make it stop, make it stop.
Y'all are big car, car, car, car.