The Greatest Generation - Sammys Jankis, the Podcast (VOY S4E25)

Episode Date: November 14, 2022

When there’s no way around a Wrath of Khan nebula, Captain Janeway is forced into a questionable decision about whom to leave in charge of the ship. But when a fellow traveller brings horny pioneer energy aboard, Seven’s reality testing problems worsen into her darkest fears. What course should Doc Holoday actually be teaching? Why does Neelix always martyr himself for the party? Who needs to evoke a national tragedy to blast? It’s the episode that’s gone ham with the McRibs!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!

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Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys. There's still a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Adam Pranica. I'm Ben Harrison. Hey Ben. How you doing Adam? I'm underneath a blanket tent.

Oh, yeah. The viewers at home are looking at me. They'd see like that scene in Titanic, where Rose and Leonardo DiCaprio are under the sheets. Right, right. That's where that happens, right? Is that... Am I thinking of a different movie? I think of the topless scene where he draws her.

Oh, wait, am I thinking of Pearl Harbor where an athlete and Kate Beckinsale are also under sheets? There's a lot of under sheets movies, huh? Yeah. Usually people get under sheets if they're gonna do it. There's also the movie called Under Sheets where that girl pops out of a cake. Yeah, and Steven Seagal has to stop her.

Yeah. I see you have a folding ladder there behind you. Oh, yeah. Not an OSHA compliant model, though, it would seem. You've got the all metal frame there, so. This is not an OSHA compliant podcast, though, unfortunately. Yeah, we've had a lot of interventions from the federal government about what an unsafe workplace

this is. Yeah, yeah, unsafe at any speed, but we prefer 1x. Just so you know, we prefer 1x. Just so you know, yeah. Ralph Nader got really mad at some people that were playing our show at 1.5x. Yeah. You know what? You're welcome to listen to this show at faster than 1x speed, but you got to wear a seatbelt now. Oh man! Yeah, and a helmet. When I was probably like 10, maybe 11, we were in East Haven, Connecticut, visiting my great aunt, wonderful lady, Aunt Betsy. She was one of the first women to graduate from

medical school at Yale. Wow. And she was a pediatrician her whole life, but she was just a cranky old lady when I knew her. So I was very afraid of Ant-Betsy for the most part. And she had lots of opinions about cars. She thought people that drove red cars were bad drivers universally. She had a firm belief in driving 23 miles an hour, no matter what, because that's what the... Because Michael Jordan,

because that's what the lights are synchronized to, and like no amount of evidence to the contrary would make her believe that, like on like big wide open roads where you're supposed to drive 45 miles an hour, she would drive 23 miles an hour. Well, it feels like over the last couple of years, we as a society have been made aware in a way that we've never known before of the existence of the dumb doctor.

She was just, she was just particular, but I didn't mean to call Aunt Nancy dumb. I just met like, it Betsy, fuck you. It's a different nickname for Elizabeth. And Betsy is medically smart, but also a little, little strange when it comes to other things. Yeah, but one thing was she would get in the car and the seat belt, she would put the crossbody part behind her. the seat belt she would put the cross body part behind her. She would just do the lap belt part. And my dad never won to back down

from an extremely awkward experience was driving me and her somewhere while we were out visiting one time. And he told her to put the belt in front of her for safety. And she said she wouldn't because it irritated her breasts. And I'm in the back of the car as a 10 year old boy, just like wanting to crawl out of my skin and then out the window and in on. Please tell me your dad breast splamed.

Aunt Betsy. He said, maybe Ben can take off his sweatshirt and you can put it in between the belt and your breasts so that they won't be irritated. Which would be the only time that sweatshirt would touch breasts for another 20 years, right? I'm just at the back of the car. Like, can we please stop talking about the existence of breasts? existence of breasts.

So a family of performers walk into the agent's office and they say, if I got an act for you, what do you call that? The Harrison's. Oh, Ben, we've got a great episode of Star Trek Voyager to discuss today. Don't we? One of the best. I see what you did there. It is, Adam. It's season four episode 25.

What? Reaver. Of course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo tubes, I'm not turning around. Oh, there. There's a feeling in this cold open that was so familiar to me. Seven's looking around the mess hall.

She sees some familiar. Yeah. She's like, why is BLT on a date with Kim? Because Kim's the stick man of the crew. He was stating the obvious again. Seven believes this to be a friendly group of people and engages them in some polite conversation. I would like to talk with you.

Okay. I think the thing that foreshadows the awful thing that happens in a moment is that seven does not sit down. She just stands there and kind of like asks them questions without giving them enough time to answer them. She's just rapid firing questions at them. Yeah. Ensen came.

What is your place of order? Certified a food you find in door. This is the sports you find. The questions get more probing as the questions continue. And there's no answers like question on top of answer, on type of question, on type of answer, and on and on. This is a bad moment for seven. Yeah.

You know what, you know, like when you're getting to know someone in a platonic way, it's not a great time to ask them like what they're into sexually. Yeah. Like definitely if you're dating someone, you wanna ask BLT what she's into,

but if you're just BLT's friend, you don't ask her like what she does with her sex partner Yeah, you just let that factoid spill out you don't ask right just told About what's going on there and what is almost always the Explanation in a cold open for something extremely weird. Okay, that's it. Computer freeze program. It's always a simulation. That's right.

This one in particular is called the Introduction to Human Interactions course. And the hollow doctor is the professor. But what my theory presupposes is that he might as well be teaching co-hosting a podcast. Because the lessons here are the same. Don't interrupt. I should probably be auditing this course all the time. Yeah, it's one of the cool things about living in a town with the big universities. You can go sit in an lecture and like just soak it up, you know?

Yeah, it doesn't cost you a dime. Seven is failing this class. It it up, you know? Yeah. Doesn't cost you a dime. Seven is failing this class. It's not good for her. Yeah. And as the doctor explains the importance of taking and passing this class, they are told that Voyager has approached

a wrath of con class nebula. Yeah. Ho! Ho! And Bill! I loved this. I didn't know that this was a thing. But, yeah, they refer to it as a Mutaran Nebula,

which is not to be confused with a Mutara Nebula. Yeah. The first of its kind, the Mutara Nebula. It's big as hell. They're talking about how big this thing is and how there are some weird materials in it, but not enough that they're like, super worried about it.

Yeah, let's just take the ship on in there. Why not? Is the idea. The reason why not is the headaches. No one took their broad before taking Voyager into this nebula and everyone is in a great amount of pain as soon as the ship starts moving in there. It seems to kind of hit them at different rates.

Like Harry is the first one to get it and then it's like Tom Paris is getting it and then it kind of like around the bridge randomly, people get it more and more. And you know, the doctor is down in six bag, like what the fuck is going on? Like half the ship just walked in my front door with lesions on their face

Too Voc fortunately is able to get the ship like turned around Seven of nine is on our way up to the bridge to treat the folks up there But when she arrives, you know, they're just catching their breath after leaving the edge of the nebula and She gets up to the bridge and there's a security guy on the ground, and it looks like he's covered in mcrib sauce. You are man! They roll him over, and he looks like burnt ends.

He's dead. He dug up. It's nebulous being like too big to go around. Like this is like a necker. It expands kind of problem, I guess. Except for when they show it, it's like, just go over it. Like I can see why going around it would take a long time,

but going over it looks like it would maybe add like a couple of months max. Three-dimensional thinking is not what they're doing here in the ass lab. I thought that that's what Nebula is supposed to inspire in people. You and me both. Maybe that's the course that the doctor should be teaching. Nebula navigation. Yeah. Instead, he pitches the idea of stasis chambers to the captain. They're talking about like,

oh yeah, like everybody on the crew would be asleep and just the doctor would be awake. And the smash cut here is maybe the smashiest of cuts in Star Trek history because like, they're talking about who else they can trust with this. And they smash cut to seven of nine down in the cargo bay, but like framed up with all the board crap behind her to really like draw a bright outline around how risky it is to

trust seven with all of their lives. This is like that moment where the parents need to go out on a date. And one of their kids just might be old enough to babysit for the other kid. And this is the first time. And you're just not so sure she's got it in her to be responsible enough for that. But God, do you really need to have a date right now? Like, she did try and feed him lipstick last week.

That's sweet. And they're like, yeah, but she is 13. Yeah. God. And seven in her own way tries to make it clear that she can be trusted. Yeah. But as kind of a check on her, she will have to obey the doctor and the chain of command. And this is something she naturally takes great umbrage with, right? Yeah, a little bit of anti-synthetic bias here from seven like, which seems weird, right? Because she was part of a computer consciousness. But when she's told that she's going to be answering

to a computer program, she's like, eh, him? Hail no. I don't respect holographic pips. I don't know about you. I mean, he's pipless. They should give him a rank. Shouldn't they? Maybe, maybe adding pips to the program

would like overload his hollow matrix or something. I think it's why they don't give him pips is because he could give himself as many as he wanted. A string of pips, you know. It could look like he's in pip chain mail, walking around six Bay. An elegant string of pip configuration. Mm.

As Nicholas Cage would say. So can you do a respect this? It kills you. So they have a McLaughlin group that sort of explains stasis to anyone that's never seen a science fiction film before, you know, senior staff of the Starship. And you know, there's a lot of like, are we sure about this whole leaving seven in the doctor in charge conversation going on?

Can I ask you a question about how many times a day you would like your vital science checked were you to be put in Stasis? Like, what is your threshold for comfort there? Is it more or less than four times per day? I mean, because by my math, that's every six hours. Yeah. I don't like that. I think that the thing that makes that feel really dangerous is that these stasis chambers seem very unknown to them Yeah, and then came is like yeah, I like read about these and they don't seem that bulletproof Have they been on the ship the whole time also or did they have to make these? They must have had to replicate them, but the replicators are famously underpowered

I'm hungry and yeah replicators are famously underpowered. Yeah. And replicates so many. And they're big chunks of metal. That's why I thought that maybe they'd always been there kind of like the escape rafts on a cruise ship. Like you need a stasis thing for each crew person. The fucked up thing is that these are also the torpedoes that they shoot you out in if you die. They serve double function.

It's very efficient that way. We don't have to take you out and repack you into something else. She coat Dacie's the folly in this. He's like, Captain, like, talk me into this. This seems crazy. In a nutshell. I needed way more than this scene to be talked into this idea of Ben. How many questions did you have about this at this moment in time?

I mean, Chico De raises all of the concerns that would be raised in anyone's mind. Like Tevin has been super recalcitrant since she came on board has never really been a team player. Doesn't really seem like she respects the chain of command. Upon what are you basing the decision to entrust all of our lives to her? Also, do you trust Stasis tanks as a thing anyway after having just been introduced to them? Yeah. Like, I'd want to shoot a Stasis Boa out into the nebula and maybe put a dog in it or something. Stasis Boa out into the nebula and maybe put a dog in it or something? Stasis chambers. Suspended animation.

Are there any side effects? I think we can handle this. All right. We need to make sure that the stasis Boa is safe for life. See if stasis-like comes back, okay? That's what I'm saying. I don't really know what I'm doing. Do it.

Coffee, black. Make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. You know, Chico Dei and the Captain were in Stasis Chambers when they had their little with the clown man. Ooh. Hmm. Kinda seems like it. Yeah. And if that's the case, I could see why there's so much fear to rather these things. Let's get out of here. You got it.

Chico today is like, can you give me some assurances that we can trust seven and also that we won't meet Michael McKean in the process of going through the scapula? Finally, someone who appreciates me. Those were clown stasis units. These are something else entirely. And, and you're saying that if we don't do this,

we'll get splattered against the back wall of the bridge, like cat food, right? Yeah. Jane Wayslake, look, Chicoete, I'm asking you to trust me and my instincts. And Chicoete doesn't say this, but you know he's thinking it. He's like,

why don't you decide to trust your heart once in a while? As it pertains to me. He does. He's gonna trust her. Yeah. He's not putting up that much of a fight. Yeah. That's good enough for me. He's really putty in her hands, you know?

He really is. See, it's good enough for me. He's really putty in her hands. He really is. See it's $1700. Sounds great. They start getting in these Stacey's chambers. Tom Parris has the greatest misgivings of anyone on the senior staff. Luckily, these things are outfitted with a glow-in-the-dark handle like you'd find in the trunk of a car. They open from the inside. Yeah, if you do escape, the designers thought about that ahead of time. But they look really comfortable. They have maybe the nicest looking pillows I've seen in a Star Trek bed of any kind, ever. So the inside of these things, and I wanted to get in for sure.

It looked great. Yeah. There's taking it out in that nebula. They all get into their stasis pods, and the captain's the last one to go and the doctor and seven seal her up and The next time we check in there a third of the way through. Yeah Yeah, 10 days later and things are going great smooth sailing It is a fucking dream to be alone on this ship without the distractions of a bunch of

bullshit. Seven's walking around alone, just drinking a mug of carnation instant breakfast. Yeah, and I love that they they were very realistic about like how this would actually go. Like she gets out of the cat suit, she's not in high heels, she's in like flip flops and sweats. How is this going to say that? Yeah, the house pants need to be broken out here, right? Yeah, yeah. She looks like she got comfortable for once in her time on the show. Yeah. The one bit of Tom Foulary, if you will, is that Tom Paris keeps getting out of his stasis chamber.

He keeps pulling on the dark handle. If I have to take a nap for a month, I really would rather do it in my quarters. I like how that glow in the dark handle has a little graphic of somebody jumping out of the trunk of the car, but it's like, it's a real like tall arc. Like you're supposed to jump up to jump out. Ooh, I don't know. I think if you jump up, you're gonna hit the top of the turk. Yeah.

And then you're just gonna fall right back in. Maybe it's like in the Beavis and Butthead movie where it's trying to get you to run really fast. Yeah. When you jump out. Did the science of this moment make sense to you? I thought by leaving the tank, you'd begin to get the lesions and the headaches

and so forth. But Paris is just on the ground having an automatic door open and close on him. Yeah. Like he's fallen in front of a grocery store. He doesn't get any McRibs on him. Yeah, they put him back in. And I kind of wished that there'd been like a snippet dialogue like, ooh, lucky we're going through a pocket with relatively little blah, blah, blah radiation

or something like that. But no explanation. The EMH is getting real snappy at this point. Yeah. It's kind of funny because the way this is written is that the EMH is like, all right, seven, enough with your bullshit. You have to take more classes. And not like having any insight into his own bullshit. Right. Classes that I teach, the master of human interactions. Position, Eulasa, is that all you gotta say? In simulation, apparently Nielix knows a shit ton about warp engineering.

Yeah, what a fantasy. Yeah, they're having like a out of uniform party in Neelix's restaurant, but Sevin is not really throwing herself into the simulation. She is working on making the warp engines more efficient. Hey Neelix, why don't you take the night off? Why don't you be the guest at your party for once? You know, there's different kinds of people to throw parties, and Neelix really strikes me as the kind who really

martyrs himself to the party. Like, he really does not get to enjoy himself when guests come over. And I've really been that way in the past. I'm trying to learn how to prep the party sufficiently that I can just be in the moment when people are there, and not constantly worrying about mixing the next drink or getting the dogs on the grill or whatever. That's a great call.

Proper preparation can lead to a pleasurable night or just like getting it catered, you know, calling in the door to ash order or whatever. God, we are really at the age of like catering a party. I've never done that before, but boy, what a dream that would be. Just have a taco truck roll up to your driveway and... Yeah. Just do it like that, that'd be amazing.

I've never done it either, but I've had friends do it and it's like, man, this is really the right way to do it. This is fucking classy as hell. We get to do that sometime. Yeah. Maybe the expert Shimoda holiday party can be that this year. Yeah, for once it will be not just you and me getting hammered alone in some time part. And then succumbing to food poisoning.

A restaurant with a sea in the window is usually the location we select for a extra amount of holiday party. Sure is. God. The Seven is not quite getting the goal of this program. This is supposed to be party friend, not party business because Seven is like chopping it up about work with Nelix and Captain Janeway. And they get into a huge argument about how to work together while working together a little less. Right. Like that'd be a good idea for them, right? Yeah.

The EMH is saying, like, I'm ordering you to do this. I'm ordering you to do that. And she's like, maybe you should order me to like not have to interact with you that much so that we don't keep coming to blows like this. Yeah. And while they're having their little odd couple fight, we get a banger, they have to split up. The dock goes to the bridge and seven goes down to engineering.

And it turns out that they're getting like weird false readings because as she gets closer and closer to the engineering section, he's like telling her more and more dire things about what's happening to the ship. And when she opens the doors to a surely get blown out into space, like every Star Trek podcast or dreams of. The engineering section looks fine. Looks fine. You look closely at seven here and there is just a twinge of disappointment when those doors open and everything's fine. It's all right, Dr. Falls along.

I mean, on one level, she's relieved because she, you know, if you're gonna go out, you wanna be, go out looking your best and she's, you know, she's in the sweats and the t-shirt and the flip-flops and she just wouldn't be happy going out looking like that. But on the other hand, like, relieved not to be going out. There, yeah. So there's like weird false readings. And they locate this to gel packs, these neural gel packs that they

feel like they come up like once every other season that the Voyager has a special type of computer. And there are bio neural gel packs all over the ship. And yeah, it seems like they're getting fucked up by the nebula. Maybe like people do, you know? Like maybe the McRibsauce is getting into the gel packs or something like that. A big saga McDonald's McRibs sandwiches.

This danger hits really different from other types of Star Trek ship dangers, right? I was thinking a lot about that episode of TNG where there's that computer virus that infects the D after they watch the Yamato explode in front of them. Oh yeah. And like how much more presence death was in that episode than it really ever is here,

this is introduced as just a kind of thing that needs to be triaged over and over and over again. It rarely rises to the level of the ship is going to explode at any moment. I think that's an interesting choice. I mean, anytime that it does, that turns out to have been a red herring of one kind or another, and not an actual danger that was really present. Yeah. It's a weirdly light episode in that way, given that it's kind of a haunted house of isolation and vulnerability episode. Right, and it's very specifically laid

on one person instead of the ship and the crew. I'm going to walk to court. I'm going to be very careful because I'm going to say this once. Doc is one of those co-workers that just complained about everything, and Sevin doesn't really complain about much at all. She just absorbs this. I mean, she's a good ear for the complaints, you know? The doc practically encourages Sevin to do this as a way of coping.

Yeah, and it's not like she's going to have much choice because while they're fixing the gel pack, his emitter starts glitching. He has to sprint back to six Bay because if the emitter goes out, they could lose his program for good. They make it back just in time. And after looking at the hollow emitter, it's clear that this is not a fixable problem.

So the doc is gonna be stuck in Six Bay for the remainder of the mission. That means that Seven is going to be the captain now. Look at her. Look at her. She's the captain now. Yeah, he's gonna be confined to 6 Bay. So now it's day 29, like a long time later.

Yeah. Did that all take place on day 10? All of that stuff we just talked about, pretty big day. Because day 29, she's dreaming about being in like a snowy environment and then she wakes up and is like, whoa, my dreams are getting fucked up. She checks the alko for nightquil because she's having those freaking nightquil dreams. You want to be well rested when you're seven because her day is just nothing but ship triage

from station to station. Just running around fixing stuff, hearing Tom Paris's ghosts down hallways. Seven. Yeah. She gets word that there's a ship nearby that's trying to hail them. And she beams this dude over. He wants to trade.

And his name is Trages. Trages wants a trade. So that's nice for him. I mean, this is a deal that she can take him up on. He's got the helium and she's got the microfusion chamber. Yeah. He's got the big hairy arms and the kind of horny pioneer energy. Like, he's like, tell a girl about how he wants to be the first person across the

nebula. It doesn't seem to mind that they're way ahead of him if that's the big goal that he set for himself in life. And also doesn't seem to mind that when she says, like, oh, yeah, like the stuff on the other side of the nebula sucks just as much as wherever you came from. He also, like, doesn't seem to know what a Borgs is and then does. Like his story is getting a little hard to follow. The more this guy talks, the less it feels like a meat cue and the more it feels like a meat creep. Are you alone on this ship? Yeah, and I think that it's like, the show is already done an episode about like a dude kind of assaulting seven. And I feel like they toyed with the idea of this being more,

like what Trages was about. Yeah. Because it feels like that kind of threat. And in an episode about like isolation and loneliness and like, you know, nobody's coming to save you, like that could be a way to write it, but then it doesn't quite go that way. No.

He's scary and like when he like runs away and is hiding from her on the ship and has a cloaking device or something, that's alarming. But the next scene is her like stocking through the ship with a rifle Like a haunted house just doesn't seem as scary when you have a huge rifle. Yeah, I think maybe your little paranoid That's what loneliness can do to you. I mean this guy gets away

Pretty fast seven gets distracted by Paris's ghostly voice. Yeah, and then when she turns around Trages is gone, trages. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, but like she sees his shadow round a corner. He seems real enough to be freaked out by this moment. Real enough to taunt her over the radio. I know your sensors can detect me. So if you want to know where I am,

you'll have to ask. She goes to Six Bay, like naturally, she needs to talk to the only awake person on the ship besides her. And the doc is like, look, this is a bad situation because the computer can't pick this guy up. So he's got to be using some sort of personal cloak and the ship has gone to. So he's probably got a cloak on that. And the computer more and more are sounding like a broken carnival ride. So she's got to split her attention between finding this creep show on the ship and also continuing to fix all the things that are breaking. She gets asked a very interesting question by the doctor.

He wants to know if she's frightened and she kind of rejects that. I am born. It's funny how her answer to the question is packing a phaser rifle. Except seven, most households with phaser rifles are statistically more dangerous than those without. All right. Yeah, people think that they're getting it for home safety, home defense, and it actually raises the likelihood of a terrible accident. Right. I mean, but at the same time, when you have a borg's in your house, those statistics are frighteningly similar. I haven't seen one of those movies where they're like elaborate tricks that people have to like get out of, like there's a key in your belly

and you have to dig it out with your bare hands to unlock yourself for a bear trap is gonna bite your neck off or whatever. Yeah, you're talking about saw, the saw family of films. Yeah, so this sort of has some saw, right? Like the like taunting villain over the radio. Sure. But it's like a two can play that game kind of thing because like the second he

starts taunting her and then reveals his location. She like cuts the oxygen bridge and our exophores field around it. This is cold blooded. I love this. It's like if you had control over whether saw could breathe while he was doing his evil trap to you. Yeah. Is Saw the name of the guy? Sure. I haven't seen it. I'm scared of those type of movies. I don't think you would like those movies. No. This is also the scene where seven watches Paris

and Ensen Kim ignite and die on that upper level of engineering. A very event horizon kind of image, I think. Yeah. Love a spontaneous human combustion scene. I felt heat. This is not something that's in our heads. Really scary. Really nice special effects on that. Yeah. Sadly, Trages does not consent to the breath work that Seven is into and he succumbs on the bridge. And so Seven, like, radios to the doctor who is just marching down a hallway at this point and he's like, the mobile emitter is back in the business baby. Yeah. Like, since when? Like, what the fuck are you talking about? It's back.

Kind of a lot happens off screen in this episode episode. Yeah, like was the doctor literally just sitting in six bay, like tinkering with it? I've been working on my mobile limiter. I think I'm making progress, but I still can't leave sick bay. Yeah, he had those little jewelers tools. Oh, yeah, like a loop and the little tweezers that you used to repair a watch.

Jewelers tools. Ah, the ruling juror. That is something. So Trajus is supposed to be incapacitated up on the bridge and Seven's gonna meet the doctor there so they can like stomp a mud hole in his ass or whatever. So she grabs her rifle and she's about to leave engineering when he walks in.

How could he be down here? Seems impossible. This makes no sense. Oh, another thing is he's impervious to your weapons. Yeah, Trajus is a nebula proof and phaser proof. And he started telling her about how bad she is because she's a borg's and how she's alone and weak and pathetic.

And as he's doing this, like the warp core goes from blue to green to really accentuate the point that he's making. The duck walks in and just sees seven gesturing to an empty room with a phaser rifle. Not a good look. Yeah, she's yelling at the wind. So he starts to try and like work on convincing her that she's been hallucinating, Trages, Trages wasn't real. And there's another banger here, right?

There's like the, like the EPS goes out at this point. Right, because one of the ways that Seven has kind of helped out the doc is like patching his power through the EPS conduits. And this thing just exploded in engineering. So the doc starts blinking out here. Yeah. And things are frantic because the doc is like,

look, your mind is going to continue to follow apart here and you need to at least be with it enough to repair the EPS conduit so that you can bring me back. So hold it together. He's like, there's anti-psychotics I can put you on and the dosage is what? I got to get bit. Not now put your lot number your mouth. I got to get bit.

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She conjures a very caddy, Harry Kim in the ass lab. I mean, I'd be caddy too if I had this much McRib sauce on me. Yeah. go away You can try to ship me out, but looks like dead is bringing home the barbecue That sauce is only gonna be on his face for a limited time though. Yeah, it's on its farewell tour That's what I'm betting can she put up with it 17 hours left? Yeah until there the ships on the other side of the nebula She keeps like doing the math on this, right? Like we keep checking in with like their progress

through the nebula and getting really, really close. She winds up on the bridge with the entire senior staff covered in McRibs sauce. Like they've absolutely gone ham with the McRibs and they're just telling her how alone she is and how isolated she is and how she's gonna fail. You deserve a break today, my rib cut that McDonald's leg. No bow.

You're gonna watch them die and she runs down to the stasis chamber and my rib sauce, Janeway is taunting her because like seven is like shunted power from stasis chambers one through ten to the engines to keep them moving through the nebula. And then when she runs down, it's revealed that that's the senior staff's tubes. Yeah. It's like, I would maybe go like the other end of the org chart for the ones that you're taking power from, like the most expendable red shirts maybe I would start with. Yeah, I had a lot of questions about how the selection of these stasis units was chosen. This episode does make some good order of operations choices, like Seven's first choice being to get

into more comfortable clothing because she's like not around anyone, but in this case, this was a bad order of operations choice. Right. In this script. As Seven makes her way back to the bridge, the corridor is filled with green smoke and she meets up with the Borgs there from an Aaron Sorkin TV show. This is a part of the episode that is very focused on her time as a Borgs and is really encouraging of her to either rejoin them,

like the doors open up and there's a borax cube waiting for her and and tragic is like, look, you got to jump out of this turbo lift and into the borax cube. It's where you belong. You don't belong alone. It's your home. Are you too good for your home? This is a through line for all of the interactions that Travis, the Travis has with seven. It's all about her solitude and her ex-borgsness. And how we might know all these things.

Yeah, he seems to have very similar energy to Borgesley Whitford, the Borg that's taunting her in the hallway. Yeah. All of the nagging is about her not being in a relationship at her age, and it's just very hurtful stuff. You will die alone. My parents say the same stuff. Leave me alone. There's 11 minutes left.

She's shunted the power from those 10, Jesus chambers to the propulsion and then she turns off all life support and shunts that remaining power into the 10 chambers. But that means she doesn't have life support where she is. And I was like, put on a spacesuit seven or get in a shuttle craft, which has independent life support. I mean, she kind of gets negged into doing this, right, by the Caddy Bridge crew. Yeah. Yeah. They're like taking bets on what she's gonna do.

Yeah, Harry Kim, like pulls out like a little notebook and like a wets a pencil on his tongue. Yeah. Yeah, they are very cruel to her. It's really, really mean. She feels things. I think that's like the main takeaway of this episode, is that up until now, you aren't exactly sure

if she feels anything with the way people talk about her and around her or at her. Yeah. And she suspects that she's not liked and not trusted. I think it's about us learning about how much she feels and maybe also herself a little bit learning about that. Yeah. So, yeah, she wakes up in a bio bed with a bunch of people looking over her like Dorothy

waking up back in Kansas and they're like, yeah, you did it. Like we all woke up on the far side of the nebula and the doctor was like doing a Baywatch mouth to mouth sequence with you. Slight role reversal, because let's be honest, you would have been the lifeguard in that scenario. Seven looks around, like she squints at Chico Tay and then looks at Janeway and then back at Chico Tay and at Janeway again and she's like, so wait, you were in those chambers for like 30 days.

I had a major medical emergency. You got out of the chamber, went and took showers, and did your hair again. While I was on this bed, maybe dying. You got yourself together and fixed your bed head and then came to my bedside. That's the order of things. How dare you?

And then it pans over and Harry Kim is sitting there like super disheveled and like, he didn't take a shower. Yeah, he's like been at her bedside the entire time. He wreaks. Hahaha. 30 days, no showers. Hahaha.

Can you imagine the smell when all those stasis chambers open? Just the unwashed humanity that wafts over everyone? I'll tell you about the strength of the hair product that I want to use. Stasis chamber strength. Sometimes it's like softhold, firmhold, stasis chamber. Yeah. When you go up to the number of Gs that you're traveling to get out to the event horizon, your body turns into cat food, but your hair stays right. Yeah, perfectly in place. Yeah. So the button on the episode is seven showing backup in

Nielix's restaurant. For the first time for real in the whole episode. It was always a simulation before. And she finds a group of three buddies at a table, BLT, Tom Parris and Harry Kim and invites herself to join them for funsies. Wait a sit down, Seven, maybe next time, you know, even if you're not hungry, I think there's always room for soup, right? Yeah, just like, you know, glass of soda pop or something. Yeah, you know, just so you have some business to do, you know? Yeah, yeah. And don't make the server feel like they're just like

serving four people and they're not gonna get a tip from one of them, you know? Like don't ask for free shit, like, oh yeah, just bring me water and bread, you know. Yeah, no. Get something so that you can cover their costs. You're part of this now. The group is pretty sympathetic to seven in a way

that they haven't been up until now collectively, I think. They're like, wow, what was that like on the ship all by yourself? Must have been crazy wearing around your house pants that long. And Tom Paris is like, why are the knuckles on my hands like calloused? Like I keep pulling on like a T-shaped

like pull cord over and over again? Feels like that's all I did for the 30 days. My neck really hurts too, but like in two specific places, like a door has been closing on it over and over again. Yeah. Not here. We're here so much, but right here. Did you like this episode, Adam?

You know, I really even get long way close to this time. But I don't like bullets, I don't like red, and I don't like you. I love this too. It's a nice ending, isn't it? It is. I think that there's like some tonal paths not taken in this episode that I sort of wish that they'd taken.

Yeah. Some others that I'm glad that they didn't take. But like, it is a very interesting character study of seven, and I think it is like strength and so much by the way it concludes for being as uneven as it was on the way there. Yeah, I mean, Jerry Ryan carries this episode in a way that is both great for Jerry Ryan and demonstrating her greatness. But also, like, Star Trek can sometimes Star Trek be like that in that it focuses its stress so much on one person instead of distributing it around. I can feel the stress in more than one way as if you were, and I kind of wanted to. I wanted the moment before getting into the pods to be more intense instead of comical. Yeah, yeah, they're definitely playing parrises like very relatable fear for like a silly thing

in this episode. Seven's the only one permitted to feel that kind of fear in a way that I think makes for a more powerful episode for her and her character, but, you know, like the true depth of the horror of the circumstances would mean realizing that that is going for everyone. And it's only the end that we start to feel that way when power starts being turned off to some of the chambers, right? Yeah. But, I mean, as an episode, I think it's great for what I hope it does to seven because I like seeing

her treated with kindness. She's had a hard road. People really don't seem to get along with her and she doesn't get along with anyone else. I mean, no amount of holiday training is going to help this. Like I think that's one takeaway that we get from this, right? Like the docs programs are not helping. What is helping is sitting down with people for real. Yeah.

And to their credit, I liked how welcoming those people were. These are all people that for one reason or another might have misgivings about welcoming her at this point. BLT, most of all, right? BLT hates her. Kim. She punched Kim in the face. Or no, did's just bowling pin.

Kim is like dumping cold water on his erection under the table. But yeah, speaks well of the crew. I think overall, I like this episode, but yeah, it's definitely not a perfect execution of a good idea. Yeah. You know what always is?

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Regarding the hashtag CrotchDiceContinuation, I'll see you in early August for the 57-year mission. Synchronize your watches and their decibel warnings for the Prana Cabana. The human adventure is just beginning to chill at the Rio. I can't believe we're going back to the Rio next year. Are we? I mean, you and I might not. I better get my wife pregnant again. I don't have to.

It would be worth avoiding the Rio in that way, huh? I mean, it sounds like the Rio's pool is more pleasant to be at than whatever one the Pranic Abano was. Yeah, I mean, that's because the Rio has fully given up on its pool area and there is no DJ or facilities or anything out there. Yeah, they're just like, do you guys like want anything or like beer?

And they're like, I guess we'll see if we have any. Yeah, the decibel warnings are for low decibels out at the Rio pool. Beer and they're like, I guess we'll see if we have any. Yeah, the decibel warnings are for low decibels. Out of the real pool. Your Apple watch is like, are you still alive? You seem to have taken a hard fall into a very isolated place. Is everything all right? Do we need to summon the authorities?

This place is a tomb. Well, if you'd like to get a priority on message on the show, head to maximumfund.org slash jumbo-tron and set one up today. Will the Rio even have ice? He needs ice for a crotch dice, right? Yeah. I noticed it's portable on my ice machine packaging. Maybe it should bring the ice machine to the pool. I mean, the trouble, Ben, is that you'd also need a working outlet at the Rio to plug that thing into.

Rio is in current on their energy bill. And so stuff gets turned off all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It could be very exciting over there. Yeah. Wow, a lot of fun.

I guess I just have one question, Adam. It's that bad. Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Granamoda. Granamoda. This is an episode of very few characters, right? Yeah. So I think you're narrowing your

Shimoda confinement beam down to the Doctor and Seven, if you're me, the way I'm thinking about it. Yeah, I guess so. But I'm not thinking about it in that way. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. The guy I can't get out of my head is that Borg's from Sports Night.

Yeah. He's so recognizable to me. I was like, oh, look at that guy. He's from Sports Night. I'm going to make him my drug charmota. Wow. That man has a name. His name is Ron Austro.

He's been in a lot of things. Most of them. Man, I thought your Aaron Sorkin thing was just that they were doing so much hallway walkin' talk in those sequences. I mean that in both ways, but like this guy is from the Aaron Sorkin School of Television. I'm like, man, he's never thing.

That's why I made that borgly witford joke. I didn't recognize him. It was great, it was great. And it didn't work, it no, go back and edit it out. Now you are imperfect as well. I'm embarrassed now. I liked it. It didn't make sense, it didn't,

ugh, fucking so fucking frustrated. This is what I get for not having watched sports night. There was a time when everyone was like, you gotta watch sports night. It's the greatest. Yeah, that's like four eras of better kinds of television sports night. There was a time when everyone was like, you got to watch sports night. It's the greatest. Yeah. That's like four eras of better kinds of television ago.

Yeah. Like, that was the like, Arles era prestige television show. So weird how how sports night and studio 60 and all that. Like why is there always a scene where 9-11 is evoked? Aaron Sorkin's really obsessed. Only way Sorkin can blast. I mean fix you wasn't even a song. Yeah, shit man. My drink's from Oda is McRibsus, us, Ensen Kim, in the ass lab, Sassin, Seven of Nine. I just loved the role reversal. I thought that Garrett Wong's, it can be hard to change the status of a character in a fun and plausible way, but he's always been on his back heel around Seven and him being the one like making fun of her and belittling her really worked for me in that scene. Yeah, I like how Garrett Wong is playing Kim the last couple of episodes.

He's kind of stretching him out a little bit. Yeah, it's nice. Well Adam, why don't you head to gach.bizslashgame, I tell you about season four, episode 26. Open fear. A mysterious alien with a knack for languages is able to repair a damaged message from Starfleet. Hmm. Boy, they really dropped that storyline

for a long time, I feel like. They like, we got something over the hero-gen Yeah. Combs array, but like can't decode it storyline. I know. I, we're going back to that. Yeah, apparently. Huh. Well, maybe it's a different scrambled message from Starfleet. It's Tom Mervins and he's like, look, cat. If you need to know that it's over. Cat

If you need to know that it's over For the dogs because sorry, maybe that wasn't clear. I'm calling to say that the dog died There's no woman on earth that will have me. I Really need you to come back Our house looks like shit right now. I'm certainly not cleaning it up. It's like that you ever see that commercial for like a cleaning products where the dad just cleans the square behind him in the kitchen so that he can face time with his kids because his wife's on a business trip. Yeah.

Am I making any sense? That's Tom Mervins in a nutshell. Ben, I'm over at the game of Buttholes, the Will of the Caretaker. I'm looking at a runabout. It's on square 26. Two squares ahead is the naked now. Yeah, the end of the show, right? An episode that could be the end of our show as we know it.

I have not selected my replacement host. Yeah, that's probably gonna be up to you. I'm just gonna be so over it that I'll put that on you. I'm not really attending meetings famously and there's probably gonna be a meeting it that I'll put that on you. I'm not really attending meetings famously and there's probably gonna be a meeting about that. Yeah, me and the entire upper management team at the Expertship Ode Corporation. Yeah. What to do about Adam's attitude problems lately?

Yeah, you're gonna have to pit me. It's happened before. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. Pid me, Ben. Pid me. Ben, I have rolled a four. Shula!

Did I win? Hardly. Ah. Which means I will remain on the show as a host of the greatest generation. I want to be clear, I don't really wanna do a bathtub episode, but I do like how angry it makes you. Yeah. Hopefully this awful concept is behind us forever.

We're on square 30. It's a regular old episode. Wow. Look at that. We'll get up off of the lower few rows pretty soon. Yeah. Things are looking up. It's a good feeling.

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I think they're appreciating the hot, dramatic action of an episode of Baywatch. Yeah, yeah. A show where things just explode all the time. I'm learning. Yeah. It's a show hot enough to warn many bones. That's right.

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