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Do it Captain Captain.
Welcome to the greatest generation.
It's a Star Trek podcast.
Yeah.
By a couple of guys, just a little bit embarrassed
about having a Star Trek podcast, I'm Adam Pranica.
I'm Ben Harrison here to drink first
and talk about Star Trek second.
Yeah.
Yeah. It's a Qu. Yeah. Yeah, very.
It's a Quark Spar episode, Adam.
Sure is.
We've landed on the Quark Spar Square.
Yeah.
On the Game of Buttholes.
Right on the heels of a Coco Nono Square.
Yeah.
They shouldn't be that close to each other.
I mean, we've had such a six months
on the Game of Buttholes that like we haven't done
this very often at all, and now it seems like all we ever do.
It's fine.
This used to be the only type of show we did.
It's interesting that our lives went to hell over those six months also.
Yeah, what's that about?
I don't know.
What are you drinking today, buddy?
All right.
I have a story about the cocktail that I mixed.
And I did.
The cocktail, wow.
And I did make a cocktail.
So my wife and I were out of town over the weekend.
And you keep bringing it up.
You're brag, brag, brag.
I'm gonna brag about this cocktail I had
at this restaurant bin.
So I would say the genre of this restaurant is like,
I couldn't even describe it.
It's got the steak, it's got the pasta,
like American restaurant,
is probably what they just should have called it.
American restaurant.
Have a great meal.
The dogs with us, she's coming everywhere with us.
So we're like the people on the patio
with the fucking dog eating
ram-bunxious puppy. Yeah
It's another story so we're out there and we have a great meal and the
Did you save room for dessert moment happens? Mm-hmm
How's everything tasting everybody save room for dessert?
The thing to say every time is, I'll look at a menu.
Yeah, yeah.
Dessert menu gets dropped.
All the usual suspects are there.
You got your little dessert cake.
You got a little...
A little, like a flowerless chocolate cake,
creme brulee.
Every time.
Plate of berries.
The usual suspects.
And then they had their dessert cocktails.
Again, you got your remarrows, you got your brandy,
I don't know, what other things people drink after?
Oh, an espresso.
Yeah, sure.
And then, at the very bottom, this list was a mezcal white Russian.
That was my face. That was my reaction exactly. What? You can't do that. That's not
how this works. It's not how any of this works. You're telling me you're gonna swap out the
vodka in a white Russian for for mezcal madness. So you know I ordered it. Yeah. You know
I ordered it. That's the thing to do when you see a thing on a menu that doesn't make any fucking sense, you've got to get it.
I got it and Ben, it was delicious.
Wow.
It's not what I made for the show.
I tell you this because it served as inspiration for what I did make.
Now here's the thing that I do.
I will make this cocktail for people when we have them over for dinner.
I've made this cocktail for you on occasion.
It's a cocktail I made when we went up to Seattle.
And we're just kind of drag and ass
the day before Thanksgiving is the time
where you want to like up the energy level.
Guys, we just got into town, let's do this.
So what I will do is I will make a cocktail
that includes a couple of shots of espresso
or a very strong cold brew coffee, a shot of a morrow.
Right.
You put a shot and a half, like the Adam and Ben shot
is a two-ounce shot of vodka in there.
You shake it all around, you pour it in a glass of some ice, and that is your
suburban speed ball right there, baby. You're on a rocket ship back to party town, and so that's
the standard, right? After my experience out of town, I was like, could I take out the vodka
and could I put in mezcal? So what I did is I made that drink with instead of vodka, mezcal,
a morrow, couple of shots of coffee,
okay.
Hand full of ice, swished it all around.
This is a drink with that name.
Name it, man.
It kind of works.
I've been mixing more with a morrow
than I have in years past, and it is a really interesting
second or third ingredient to a thing where you don't want to fuck around with simple syrup.
Maybe you don't have any around.
It's going to give you a complexity of flavor that you would not get in most other things.
And I really love mixing it with coffee.
I think a lot of people do mix Amaro and coffee, so that's not like new ground, but mixing those two things and a
third thing. Yeah. In order to give it the booze buzz is what I did here. So that's
the drink I got because I'm drinking coffee all day. Yeah. Per your advice to me
the tired puppy boy. What about you, Ben? What are you drinking? I'm drinking some straight mezcal right now. I brought the last can of hard
seltzer and the last can of hard cider I had in my fridge out for what's next.
Right now I'm just I'm starting my record with a copita of some
Aguadel sold big. Oh hold that thing up for the viewers.
Forget her name but a friend of the Soto made this for us.
Oh that's awesome.
You should post that on the Graham dude.
That is real nice.
I really should.
I think that they probably did get posted on the Graham when we opened it up on a code 47.
But I'll post it again.
I'll take a glamour shot.
Yeah.
But yeah, this bottle of bequeesh from Aguid al-Soul
is actually something that the pod father,
Jesse Thorden gave to me.
It was really delicious.
Good pick by Jesse.
Easy drink in Amaro.
If you're new to Amaro,
this is not a super high threshold,
crazy gun metal flavor or anything like that.
You said Amaro, did you mean Mezcal?
I meant Mezcal.
Okay.
I'm already hampered.
Geez.
Are you now?
No.
Um, but I had Amaro on the brain.
I don't know why.
Because all I ever do is talk about it.
Wow, well, we've got the drinks teed up, Ben,
and we've got an episode ahead.
We do.
I bet the characters in this episode
would have killed each other for a taste of these cocktails.
Yeah, if they didn't turn the mezcal bottle
into a stabbing implement first.
Yeah.
We got some fresh fish at him. We get into it.
Let's do it, Ben.
It's Star Trek Voyager Season 3, episode three,
the chute.
Three were of course.
Unless you've got something a little bigger
in your torpedo tubes, I'm not turning around.
Oh, yeah.
An episode that opens in a very cranky,
yelling, alarm-y prison
when Kim gets dumped in.
Not sort of place you can expect much sleep, I'd say.
A prison that is made all out of core-ten steel.
The shaking chains are in full effect.
Saw dust on the floor.
Yep.
It's not a nice place to be, and we pan over
to the chute in question, and it like irises open.
I love those irises like that.
The kind of chute that if it closed down yet.
Oh yeah.
It's just gonna take off some fingers.
That's a cutter right there.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
And down slides Harry Kim.
I see him.
We kill him.
Yeah!
These aliens look like early era Star Trek movie
klingons.
Especially Zio, who is such an imposing figure throughout
this episode.
Yeah.
These guys all want a piece of the new prisoner, Harry Kim, and one of them
kind of crowds his way to the front and claims Harry. I say you let me have him first.
This turns into a fist fight. One of those prison fights where everybody gets in a big circle, and it's like almost
indistinguishable from a breakdancing situation, except for there's two people in the middle,
not one.
The thing about Garrett Wong's hairstyle as Warren in this scene is that this 90s hairstyle
punches great.
It reads so well when this character is hit in the face over and over again,
because it kind of poms, poms around.
Yeah.
So much secondary action with that hair.
There's a moment here, which is like,
Harry Kim's hero turn when like the camera racks in and he's like,
um, okay guys, it's not that I'm stuck in here with you, it's that you're stuck in here with me.
And then the fists start flying.
Yeah.
He winds up getting pushed to the edge of the circle at a certain point and lands in the arms of what he thought would be a friendly face.
Tom Paris is there.
Tom Paris halls off on him.
Yeah, you got to impress the prison alpha
in this moment, and that's the choice that Tom Paris makes.
Welcome to Fight Club, Harry.
I feel like when you're in Starfleet,
you agree on some rules up front.
If we're ever gonna be in prison,
and you have to punch me, stay away from the moneymaker.
All right. Keep it in the torso area if you can or the knee.
If you think it's easier to sell a fake gut punch that it is, a fake face punch.
Like no question.
Like, yeah, because you can, you can make contact with the torso a lot more than
you could with the face, right?
Yeah.
I wonder if Paris pulled his punch a little bit.
I mean, it doesn't look like it.
No.
Harry looks fucked up.
Paris explains to anyone who will listen
that Harry Kim is gonna be his property
due to the fact that Harry Kim is why Paris is in jail
to begin with.
I kind of wished that they, because the prisoners all seem to be the same type of alien,
and I wished they had addressed that a little bit, like, who the fuck are you guys like,
what were to do even go to?
You don't look like us.
What's wrong with your foreheads?
I could not get past the credit sequence, Ben.
I replayed the credit sequence four or five times. You know why?
Beans Morocco. Beans Morocco is in this episode. You get a Beans Morocco in your episode. You know
you're gonna strap in for something good. One of the great careers in all of Hollywood. Oh yeah?
He has been in every television show that the card daddy has ever seen.
I'm enjoyed.
I'm pretty sure this guy is one of card daddy's favorite actors.
And with a name like that, you tell him you don't have a part for beans.
Why don't you give a part to beans?
He's a working actor.
Give beans a part.
Yeah.
Still alive.
87 years young.
Man.
It's Morocco.
Well, cheers to beans, Morocco, Adam.
Yeah.
We forgot to have a toast at the beginning of this trip.
Oh, yeah.
But I'll drink to beans.
So they finally get a moment alone.
Tom has a little hovel set aside for himself
that he and Harry go back to,
and they talk about how they got locked up.
They both kind of got run through this Kafka-esque
terrible judicial system that the Akritereans employ.
Yeah, judicial theater, I call it.
They have an awful alien name for a drunk asod.
I'm gonna hit the Pommel horse most times.
I tried to pronounce that one.
Yeah, and they also talk a little bit about
like what a fucked up place this is.
They think they're 300 meters underground.
They haven't even seen any guards.
This is even worse than Rura Pente. It is like at least there
You could get to the surface. They don't make a lot of hay out of this
But Harry Kim's ideas about how to get out of there are so fucking stupid
We've got to explain to somebody that there's been a mistake
Who did you have in mind?
That I I really could have used a reverse shot of Tom Paris,
like, oh my God, I'm stuck in prison with this fucking guy.
Like, he's my best friend, but also holy shit.
Like, this is bad.
Kim is gonna be a drag on Paris the whole time.
It's something that you and I know as the viewers,
but not something that Paris gives voice or attitude toward.
In a way that I feel like he could credibly do.
Like, Kim is going to get Paris killed.
Yeah.
In the same way that Paris is like probably the worst
wingman you could imagine for Harry.
Yeah.
Paris has been to prison many times before.
Yeah.
This is the briar patch for Paris.
Nothing is made out of that though.
Yeah.
Yeah. I've been accused of that though. Yeah, yeah.
I've been accused of a lot of things, Harry.
I came on this ship out of prison.
I'm used to this shit.
Yeah.
Kim was like, let's find a guard and just tell him that there's a big mistake.
It's not what you do, Harry Kim.
I could tell that day that Harry Kim wouldn't make it here.
There are no guards to even talk to, Harry Kim.
But there is the clamp, and this is a thing that is attached to every prisoner's head.
It's a device that turns everyone into the prison into kind of a Rorschach type of figure.
And then they can't take it out without dying.
Usually a little blinky device stuck to your head
is a good thing in Star Trek.
Right.
But not here.
Yeah, no one's having a clip show time in this prison.
No.
So they also talk about how hungry they both are,
and Paris has been here for a couple of days.
Paris is down by law at this point,
and he hasn't seen any food show up yet.
Yikes, I mean, you can tell why everyone's a little edgy.
They're hypoglycemic.
Yeah, they're hungry.
And a alarm goes off, and everybody's really excited
because food is coming.
And it's even worse than shit on a shingle at them
It's fucking cliff bars. It's shingle on a shingle. Yeah
That's it. That's what they get to eat and people are shivering each other over it
Some guy gets his throat slashed fighting over this thing. What a terrible way to go
Desperate for a cliff bar. I didn't even get to eat it.
We finally cut back to Voyager where Janeway's log tells us that Kim and Paris have been gone
for days. And the acraterian authorities are extremely unhelpful in this moment.
We get to meet one of these authority figures, Ben.
Yeah.
This ambassador, Luria, is Robert Pine.
Chris Pine's dad.
No kidding, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
I knew that it was Robert Pine.
I didn't know there was any relation.
Amazing.
What a hunk.
Yeah, he's got good news and bad news.
The bad news is that Paris and Kimmer
and prison for terrorism, the good news.
He's Chris
Pines father.
I'm sure the same could be said of anyone who is near the explosion.
Yeah.
If you're a real, like, Ham and Egger of an actor who's just like a working actor, like
Robert Pine, you're going to be okay when you're Chris Pines father.
Yeah.
You're going to do fine.
Uh, he still works, right?
Yeah. Like, he's got recent credits. Absolutely. You're gonna do fine. He still works, right?
Like he's got recent credits.
Absolutely.
Okay, works as Assof.
He explains that Kim and Paris have been found guilty
of bombing like a YMCA or something.
You can blow up an old car.
You can strap cartoon dynamite to support beams you can
do whatever what you feel
so no help and we're actually also gonna be impounding your ship and searching for evidence
of the trilithium explosives that they used to do it.
Oh boy, this is an escalation to the moment.
Holy shit.
The look on Janeway's face when she is told to heave to and be boarded is like...
Withering.
Like fuck I'm gonna have to.
Yeah, Robert Pine does not get compliance in this moment
and instead Janeway takes her ship out of orbit
in an extremely tacky effect shot.
Yeah, the very, very digital space effects
really stood out in this episode.
Look, I'm not in favor of George Lucas
seeing a bunch of old Star Trek episodes but I might just snip this off of it completely. We don't need the shot.
This is addition by subtraction. Get it out of here.
Somebody do one of those like YouTube comparison videos where they render this stuff out on
their on their home PC in 2022, and it looks way better.
You tell me we don't have 20 different versions
of the Voyager leaving the orbit of a place.
Yeah, yeah, come on.
Kim and Yez.
Get the way.
Get the way.
In prison, I don't know if you get this.
Sometimes I get a little scalp acne.
Just can't stop picking at it when it's there.
It's bad.
And Kim is messing with his clamp, like so much scalp acne
when Paris returns.
And it's Kim that's getting edgy from the thing
and Paris explains that it's the clamp, man.
The clamp be like that.
Yeah.
It fucks with your equilibrium.
The way to fight the clamp is to think about better times.
Yeah.
Don't succumb to the clamp, fight it.
Right.
It's tough.
So they start thinking about better times,
but they also start thinking about how to escape
through the chute.
Yeah.
And I don't know.
In this scene, I thought, let's say your order of operations
was escaping the chute, and
then dealing with the clamp.
Right.
Don't you have to start with the clamp.
I feel like as soon as you get up in the chute, the chute is going to do something to
the clamp that kills you or something.
Likely the clamp is some kind of low jack or like I know that Rura Pente doesn't have
an electronic frontier.
No. This place probably does, and I bet the doesn't have an electronic frontier. No.
This place probably does, and I bet the clamp is a part of it.
Yes.
This is what was so crazy to me in the scene is like I would make clamp job one.
Yeah, but they do talk about like Paris saw a guy try to take out his clamp and it punched
his ticket.
So.
Yeah, that guy's probably an idiot though.
This is a prison full of idiots.
That guy never went to Starfleet Academy.
That's what I'm saying.
I think Kim's way smarter than those people.
Well, Kim is who Tom Parrish puts his hopes in
because he's got a pipe and he's like,
hey, like, with a couple of modifications,
I bet you could use this to turn off that super shocky force field on the shoot.
Harry Kim's a grubber idea of making jail-breaking inventions
out of prison materials.
It's about to come to fruition here.
Yeah.
Paris, hand me that brick of pseudo food.
We only have 15 seconds left, Harry.
Zio, hand me that other brick of weird food.
Only 11 seconds left now, Harry.
Hey, rib.
Your name is actually rib?
Seriously, like that's your name rib
I'm supposed to believe that
It's better than beans Morocco
Back on the Voyager they have to have a McLaughlin group is your one and they decide that the best way to
group is your one and they decide that the best way to deal with this is solve the crime figure out who blew up the YMCA first and then we'll go back we'll offer up the off world terrorism
collaborators to James Kirk's dad and then he'll be in a mood to help us.
Janeway claps back at BLT in a way that I found
very bracing in the moment.
We've got to go back for Harry and Tom.
Nah, fuck that.
We're not gonna have any of that tood
in this McLaughlin group, Eleanor Clifft.
I feel like it's a little bit strange that they choose to trust the suspicions of the
AQUATERIANS, AQUATERIANS.
Like AQUAD, AQUATERIANS, AQUATERIANS.
AQUATERIANS.
Ankylisor.
But they are gonna trust those guys that there were some off-world collaborators with the terrorists and they're going to
help them in their war on terror.
Right, and part of what makes this problem especially difficult to solve is that like the
tri-lethium that was said to have been used in this attack is often confused with parallel
theum, which is a type of thing that old gelapi ships used to get around.
Tri-lithium was like the thing in the missiles
that that old guy in Star Trek generations was using to blow up suns, right?
You don't have to do this, Salmon.
That's right, yeah.
So they're saying like you can convert diolithium into tri-lithium,
but you can also convert perilithium into in the trilithium.
As long as you've got some lithium,
you can probably get to three of them.
That's right.
Yeah, and if you can do that,
you can be imprisoned for a crime that you didn't commit.
Yeah, so that's all the evidence those guys needed to
convict the Voyager crew and Tom and Harry.
So they are off to look for
parallelism because it's used in ionic propulsion
in this area, but back in the jail,
we're modifying this pipe with 14 gauge romance
in order to trip the break on the food shoot.
You can find most gauges of row max at your local home center,
but we're salvaging some from a demoed wall panel.
Ordinarily you'd want to run it through some conduit
so that your local inspector will pass it for code.
That way it'll be safe, and it won't cause a fire
when you seal it up in the wall behind the drywall.
Nothing suspicious about this.
Harris is the lookout.
Well Kim is doing some hot wiring of the chute.
Yeah.
And we see something happen here that I know Ben you and I've seen in the war movies
of our viewing past.
I want to say this is from Rescue Don, right? Wasn't it Rescue Don
where they talked about what's in their dream fridge? Oh yeah, yeah. They start coming up with the
food that will keep them sane. The food that they'll look forward to when they get the hell out of
this hellhole. I've definitely had that experience. I did like an outward bound type program in high school and I was in the,
I was in the, in the wilderness for 30 days and.
Wasn't that the experience where all you did was like drink coolate and get diarrhea?
I didn't get diarrhea. I drank coolate and it made my push.
Your diarrhea been, don't try to.
It made my poops green, but they were solid BMs.
They were not loose.
You heard it here first.
Diary of Ben had green solid poop.
Yeah, I'd never since, but yeah,
that feeling of like I haven't had like
restaurant style food in a really long time
and don't know when I next will is a real thing.
I liked it a lot.
Like Paris was like reminiscing about real sundreens.
Yeah, the sundreens without Nielix.
The best one of all.
The sundreens where Harry isn't there to capitalize
on all of the romantic opportunities
that Tom would be otherwise capitalizing on.
Yeah, guess what? Kim also does not capitalize on his wire work here because he gets some
war-flightening for the trouble. It is rough stuff.
Yeah, I think this is just the shoots reaction to them saying that they would eat Nielix's
food if they could.
It's a scene that also initiates a fairly complex knife fight
with the guy from before.
A real beat it video style knife fight
and one that Tom Paris ends up losing.
Kim in this scene goes absolutely wild
with this tiny piece of pipe in a way that I couldn't help
but laugh at in a way that they weren't going for because the way Kim swings this tiny pipe around
makes him look like he's holding a novelty baseball bat that they give away before a game.
Like it's too tiny to look threatening. You can't double hand something that short and make it
look threatening, I feel like.
You need two, right?
Right.
Yeah.
Give them two pipes.
Like John Woo.
It makes them look pathetic in a way that I don't think was intentional.
And I understand that they're supposed to be at the end of their rope and like he's
supposed to be like panicking because Tom Paris has taken a shift to the gut, but like what he is doing has the effect of causing all of the other prisoners to back away in fear.
And that is not the energy that makes it not threatening it all.
And I almost think that not having a pipe at all would be more effective because it would
make Kim look like he's in more danger than he is.
Yeah.
The Shiv fight does not go well, Enterprise.
It goes especially unwell for Paris who has to be dragged back to Kim's cell after the
swarthy prisoner named Zio makes his own medical pronouncement by like touching the wound.
Yeah, this guy's done for.
I thought he was going to like heal him by laying his hands on him or something.
Yeah.
Zio has this kind of like, hippie energy that,
totally.
That in this scene, I was like, oh man,
like this guy's gonna be like the guy in the jail
that has like some magic power that saves them
and gets them through.
I totally wanna rent Scooby Gears from this guy and Hawaii.
And just like try to befriend him in that way,
like where he'll tell you where the real good spot is.
Like, the place he doesn't tell the tourists.
You guys want to see some turtles, huh?
I know where the turtles are.
Coffee black, make it yourself.
I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow.
Make it yourself.
They go back to the hovel that Tom Paris had secured previously,
and it's full of old dudes who don't wanna take them in.
Including beans Morocco, ladies and gentlemen,
beans Morocco.
This place is ours.
Get out, get out, get out!
beans Morocco is there.
You don't wanna get back to the way you're living
and find beans there.
No.
He's only there to deliver bad news.
Yeah.
Beans Morocco sounds like a dish. I like how they taste and they cook pretty fast.
It does, which is why when I saw his credit on screen
and started googling, that's what came up.
He's like, oh, cumin delicious.
It looks like you're searching for Moroccan beans.
And also this extremely weird sex position.
You've been to Morocco, right?
I have. Did you have beans to Morocco, right? I have.
Did you have beans while you were there?
I don't remember having beans.
Beans were not on the menu, boys.
You missed out, Adam.
One of the great delicacies of North Africa is the beans Morocco.
God, I really blew it.
Yeah.
Well, I have to go back.
I wind up showing up on Zio's doorstep. God, I really blew it. Yeah. Well, I have to go back.
I wind up showing up on Zio's doorstep.
Zio breaks away from writing the next chapter of the Hobbit
or something to take them in.
And Zio has expressed some interest in Paris's boots.
And Harry actually uses his own boots as a tool of barter.
And Zio's like, sorry, I can't help you, dude.
Your feet are way smaller than mine.
Paris, those might fit me.
Yours definitely not.
Zio wants that pipe, and Kim is like, I'm not willing to part with that.
So what is on the table, though, isn't that pipe?
It's bringing Zio with them.
Like look, we're gonna get out of here.
I know you don't believe it with this haircut
and this piece of pipe.
We're going out tonight.
Zio's like, I don't know if I've got time.
When you're a writer like I am,
what you need to do is block out the time
it takes to write your manifesto.
These are my morning pages.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Writer's block is an excuse not to work,
and I've professionalized.
Yeah, look, guys, I'm turning into the camera right now.
Friend to Disodo, if you wanna finish your manifesto,
you just need to block out the time.
Just every day, every day.
Starting at 9 a.m., that's writing time.
You turn off the Wi-Fi, you get the fucking page is done.
Doesn't matter if it's five minutes or an hour,
progress is progress to the manifesto.
How many people in our audience
do you think are currently working on a manifesto?
I think a non-zero amount of our viewers
are working on a manifesto.
How many people that currently co-host this show are working on a manifesto?
I think a non-zero amount of hosts at this show.
Currently working on a manifesto.
The problem is, man, I just can't carve out the time.
Yeah, I'm like, I never get past like human history as the history of class struggle
and then I'm like, I don't know what to put after this.
Eventually I'll get to my demands.
I just can't wait to get to my demands.
But I'm not ready yet.
I'm not as scraggly as I was at the peak of the lockdown.
I really like bearded out for a while there.
Didn't you walk more Tom Paris beard? Like by the time we get Paris beard,
it feels like it's too late.
It's too late.
We don't get to relish in his beardy,
a cardie brother.
I cut you off though, Ben.
I think you're gonna say you're caring more
about your facial grooming than before.
I was just saying like,
I was making a lot more headway
on the manifesto then, you know.
You know what, it's funny.
You want to look like the manifesto then, you know. You know what, it's funny, you want to look like
the manifesto writer, you want to be seen as.
You want to look like the manifesto writer
that would really put chills in people
when they saw the police sketch of.
Yeah, when you unfurled the rags that you've written it on.
This guy is not messing around.
He wrote it on coffee bags.
The Voyager has made pretty quick work of looking for fugitives.
And the first people that they pull up on are gentleman and a young lady.
And they're like, hey, so we're just kind of looking around.
Anybody that's got parallel to him, we're asking about this.
What do you guys know? And the girl is like, don't tell her anything.
I love how universal this moment is
when there's two people who are somewhat the same age
together in the same place.
Janeway is like, we'll have to transport you and your wife
to our ship for interrogation.
And he's like, he's my sister and our political views
and none of your business.
You, what the hell?
It doesn't matter what century you're in.
That is always gonna be extremely off-putting.
These people spill the beans pretty quickly
that they are exactly who the Voyager is looking for.
And not only that,
BLT detects the tri-lithium in their ship.
This guy's sister, Peary, pops off at Janeway about how easy it would be for her to just take
the Voyager on a rescue mission, shoot a couple of torps at the prison, free both their
political prisoners and Paris and Kim, and call it a fucking day.
And it's such an interesting moment in the scene
because Janeway's reaction is like,
we don't do that kind of thing.
We're starfully, but it does soften her up in the scene
in a way that changes her entire attitude
from what it was in the beginning.
Yeah, like we don't know what open sky,
the terrorist organization,
or patriots depending on which direction you're looking
at them from, want.
Sure.
But this kind of raises an interesting question
that I wish that the episode had engaged with more.
There's a big conversation in the international development
world right now about when you donate a bunch of medical donate like a bunch of like medical equipment to a country
that has like a really fucked up government and like work with their ministry of health, you sort of validate that government by
working with them and it's like, okay, like on the one hand like more people will be helped if we can get this government to distribute this vaccine or pill or whatever
get this government to distribute this vaccine or pill or whatever on the other hand, like it further entrenched the power of this corrupt thing. And it's sort of like an imperialist
attitude to take toward a developing country when you do it that way. And like that's sort of
implied by this open sky group in this episode. And the episode just like completely avoids
engaging with that.
It does.
I just wanted to do one thing to like make me
sympathize with these two, you know?
It doesn't make Val any more sympathetic
that he's like wearing these big fucking goofy horns
and like a bear skin.
Yeah, yeah.
Like put a shirt, Val, what the fuck is wrong with you?
It does make me think,
why not do this rescue mission,
Janeway, it would kick a lot of ass
to see the Voyager strife in there.
And get these guys out,
but we don't get an answer to that at this point.
We go back to the prison where we see
Tom Paris is reluctant to trust Zio.
Maybe part of that reluctance comes from his confidence beard.
Yeah.
That he's now grown.
This is a passage of time beard.
This is the technology we're seeing right now.
The second he got stabbed, a bunch of hair follicles
started like kicking into high gear in his face.
Let me tell you something, man.
If all you had to do was take a wound to the gut
with a stabbing implement to grow a full and lustrous beard,
I'd want you to stab me, Ben.
Wow.
Stabbing the belly.
Do you want a beard that bad?
I want one pretty bad.
Wow.
I'm just not willing to walk the miles it takes to get one.
It's the thing.
Yeah.
Nor is my wife.
My wife especially doesn't want me walking those miles.
No, yeah.
Her opinion matters.
It really does.
The person up against whom that face rubs most often.
She who has to look at my face.
Ha ha ha. Adam, have you had your broads today? face rubs most often. She who has to look at my face.
Adam, have you had your broads today?
That's a great call. I'm going to go get them.
Got them.
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I did not.
Oh, man, I should have forwarded you the email.
Why don't you forward me?
Because I thought stupidly that you were already
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I probably am, I just don't look at those.
I don't look at promotions.
You gotta accept brod into your inbox.
I gotta put them on the green list.
Yeah man, I've got four boxes coming.
Fuck.
Fuck.
I can't believe you got through the ones that you ordered the last time when they sponsored
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I got tickets that look would not be selling us. Gold. It pairs gets gets to looking worse and worse in this episode, but I feel like at this
point he like hits a midpoint where he's like sweaty and slightly beardy in a way that's
really attractive actually. Even Zio is like, you know, I'm kind of the alpha in terms of good looking prisoners
But when I look down at this sweaty Tom Paris god damn. Yeah good looking guy too bad. He's gonna be dead soon
Yeah, he sort of
Once wants them to leave him behind and and Harry's like I'm not gonna do that and
Zio starts to explain about his manifesto.
This is just unwelcome.
Like, it's fun to have friends who are writers, but when that's the only thing they want
to talk about ever.
Yeah, their work.
Your work is not a personality, Zio.
Yeah.
I think the problem for Zio is that he doesn't have readers, you know
Like if people were reading this he wouldn't have to tell everyone about it
The readers you need to know are all around you
We're in hell right now gentlemen, but he's got a theory about the clamp and the old you know
This this prison and the clam, his manifesto is about all of this stuff
and he thinks it's like a big experiment about making them kill each other to prove something
about the human condition.
I know that the very term is racist, but...
What's fun is seeing this escape happen because the pipe has been wired and it's ready to
be tested and so Kim
takes it to the chute. I was really worried that they were leaving Paris behind.
I thought so too. Yeah. When Zio touches the chute it does not shock him. Yeah.
And so they crawl right up in there and it leads then after a couple of twists and turns through the ducting,
Yeah.
To a hatch, and they wipe off the glass to the hatch,
Yeah.
And the camera pulls back to reveal the awful truth that their circumstances.
They're not underground.
They're on a space station.
This space station isn't underground with me. I'm in space with you.
Fun, fun, twist, Adam. Yeah, this is great. This is the moment before you get the credits
at an episode and lost. That's what this moment is. Right, this is the end of the fucking
season and lost. Yeah, this is the middle of a Voyager episode.
Right.
They're not leaving you dangling like JJ Abrams.
There is no surface to escape to.
Yeah.
So this is a sad moment when Kim returns to Paris
interrupting his sexy dream that he's having
about the Delaney sisters.
Yeah.
And Paris is asleep.
Maybe you just let Paris sleep if you're Kim.
Paris is not looking great at this point. He's, he's, he's won.
Yeah, Zio is diagnosed Paris with Wad.
Call your doctor if you experience Wad.
Longer than four hours, let the way Paris is.
He's kind of losing the plot too, right? Like, he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
Well, especially because in a few scenes,
previous Paris is like, look Kim,
if it comes down to it and I get stabbed by a rando,
I want you to get the fuck out of here
and up into the chute and save yourself.
Yeah.
And now he's like, you killed me, you piece of shit.
Yeah, and this moment is like, you owe it to me
to potentially die yourself, to get me out of here with you.
Do not leave me here alone.
Yeah.
He's not looking good.
No, and I mean, no one's feeling good
with all the laughter going on inside of all of their brains.
There's sort of a weird scene where they have trouble getting some sleep. Yeah. Because there's a studio audience making sound of their brains. They're sort of a weird scene where they have trouble getting some sleep.
Because there's a studio audience making sound
in their brains.
They're like sleeping together in a bed
that is smaller than a twin bed.
And I guess the clamp is just piping in
like the Seinfeld audience or something.
I had an extremely difficult time seeing this scene.
I was just in a normally lit room during
the daytime and I thought the contrast during this scene and many others made what I was
watching extremely hard to parse. This was like maybe the worst of it, but like the scene
was so dark to me. It was very dark. I lowered the blinds and that helped.
Oh yeah, I bet you did. You don't want anyone to watch you watching Star Trek.
I put on my headphones.
That's what you do.
Got out of tube suck.
Look at that wand he is.
Oh man.
Go from wand to wand.
What should you do?
Ha ha ha.
The next day, Kim and Zio are discussing an escape because while they were very disappointed
to go up to the top of the chute and see that it was just a window out to space, the idea
that they're on a space station does suggest an escape that has to do with a ship that
could be there to drop off prisoners
and those little food bricks,
maybe they could hop on out of the ship and take it.
I thought it was interesting that they were having
this conversation just kind of like out in the open.
Like this was not information that they were trying to keep
from the other prisoners.
And this is a scene that really drew a line
under the kind of crazy that Zio is,
because Kim's trying to be serious with Zio
about what they need to do to get the hell out of here,
and Zio just will not shut up about the manifesto.
Like come on, Zio, like this is your chance to get out of here.
And Kim is like, I'm not trying to read anything right now,
except for the instructions to a ship
that's gonna come here to drop off
food bricks and more prisoners.
What he wants to do right now
in this very moment, Ben is foment.
And he starts fomenting like crazy in this scene.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I cast the trolley.
Yeah.
Harry is really not himself.
Like I thought that Garrett Wong's performance here
was really good.
Like he is still using his like star fleet brain
to like work the problem,
but he's also like ignoring guys getting stabbed behind him.
And Harry Kim is like in his bones,
like in his in his very DNA,
is like a character that is drawn to being left in
space somewhere. Which this Harry Kim has been. There's a there's a Harry Kim that got left
even more in space than than that. So I know. He probably sit there and say crap. This
fomenting goes nowhere though. This fomenting falls flat. I love this moment.
Like a bombing comedian at the Apollo.
There's a giant cane going out to pull him off stage.
Shit's getting thrown at him.
Until finally, some of this shit actually hits him in the head.
Yeah.
He was kind of trying to like inspire the troops.
Like if we all work together, we can overthrow the plutocrats
that exploit our labor or whatever. We eat the room.
We eat the room, man.
Kim, no one's looking at that forehead as something they want to follow around.
Yeah.
He's not really inspiring the troops and frustrated.
He heads back to, I guess, is Zio's hoffle now, but what he finds is Tom Paris just in a, in a days like disassembling that pipe.
He's like, if I just take the wiring and the circuitry out from the middle of this thing, I can use it as a pretty great sleeve for my penis. Now if you've been confined to a prison for a crime you didn't commit, it can come in handy
to have something to work out your sexual urge as a...
Today we're using silicon additives to retrofit this pipe as a flashlight.
I'm Richard Trithui, who will be spending today's episode in a federal penitentiary to experience what it's like.
Having a great time, it's the classic plumbers lament.
I'm down in the boiler room of this federal penitentiary, where you might be surprised if the technology's employed. So, Zio has grown impatient with the situation.
He's watching Kim and Paris fuck around
in his tiny apartment, and finally Zio's like,
you guys gotta get out of here.
Paris is dragging us all down.
It really seems like Paris should die.
Like, it would be easier for me, Kim,
if you just killed Paris.
Take him off the board because he's dragging you down too.
He's like so much dead weight. I was trying to teach you how killed Paris, take him off the board because he's dragging you down to. I was trying.
He's like so much dead weight.
I was trying to teach you how to like work the clamp to your advantage and now you're
going to club your homey to death with his pipe.
Come on.
You know what's great about the manifesto is you you wrap this this drapey towel over
a Tom Paris.
Yeah.
And you just choke him out with it.
You can use the manifesto as a weapon.
It's a, it's one of the only manifestos that ever written that can cut off an air supply.
Kim's not going to do this.
So Paris and Kim have to find a new place to live, which is a pretty desperate moment
in the episode.
Yeah, but Zio's like, you can join me,
follow the way of the manifesto,
we'll recruit more.
You get seven friends to join the manifesto,
and they'll each get seven friends to join the manifesto.
Right.
You know, like pulse guns are at the other end of the shoot now.
Like we can get up the shoot, but there's still guys with guns.
But if we have everybody on our side, if they all believe,
we can really sell a lot of leggings.
It's the only reason you even write a manifesto is to do something like this.
Make big structural change is what a manifesto is for.
And that's what Zio's all about here.
Yeah. Not a killer. Do you want to survive? And here, you'd better learn to be.
If you've been missing Chris Pines' father, I'm here to tell you that he did not just get
the one scene. He gets a second scene, and that scene is now. Janeway is negotiating with him
about the release of Kim and Paris.
But the Akraterians live in a society
where like there's a movie that's been popping up
on our antenna cable a lot lately,
but I don't know if you've seen this movie
with Ashley Judd called Double Jeopardy.
Oh, I've seen that movie.
It is insane as a movie.
It's absolutely bonk.
The state says you're already killed your husband.
They can't convict you of it a second time.
Almost as bonkers as the legal system, as depicted in Double Jeopardy, is the Acritarian legal
system, which pronounces guilty is guilty no matter what new evidence you may have. Yeah. The legal system cannot retroactively acknowledge a mistake because that would cause
the whole system to collapse. And Robert Pine is like, yeah, works great for us. It really
keeps people from may or may not committing crimes. Like, yeah. I mean, it's kind of...
It's a real deterrent to doing anything, really.
It's the eto logic, right?
It's like, we're not really sure, like, how bad of a thing you did.
We're just gonna condemn you to, like, a horrible death in a terrifying, rusty prison.
At least the eto are hanging dong.
I mean, there's nothing about the accraterians that suggest that anyone's having a good time.
There's nothing appealing about them at all.
And so Janeway's like, all right, fuck you guys.
I'm gonna go work with the terrorist guy
that we have on board that hates you
because he's like, he's right.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend,
even if they are a terrorist.
So she's like, yeah, I'm not actually to turn you over if you do this for me.
Like, give me the, give me the coordinates. I'm going to turn you guys over to your authorities
unless you tell me where this prison is. And he's like, I don't think so. I've got, I've got
different ideas. But and what I want you to do is get all of my friends out of jail also.
And she's like, you don't have any leverage here.
Yeah, it's wild.
I mean, I love the impudence of Vell.
Yeah.
It's big fun.
I'm not a good negotiator.
And I don't think this guy does a great job in this scene,
but I love the fact that he like tries anything,
because I never would, you know.
I mean, there's a desperation to this moment that I find really credible. Like, what is
Vell have to lose? Anyway, no deal is what Janeway says.
And form the octetary and say we're ready to turn the prison yourself.
She's just going to drop Vellan a sister in that very same prison
if they have to.
Yeah.
Like on the same trip, like a ride share driver doing a drop.
There's coffee in the prison.
It's like, all right, all right, all right,
I'll tell you how to get them out.
And so they're gonna go do it.
They're gonna do it in Nielix's ship,
a ship that I can't remember ever seeing.
Yeah. We only ever saw like Nielix's ship, a ship that I can't remember ever seeing. Yeah.
We only ever saw Nielix's ship from the view screen, I feel like, like the inside of.
It is really Lego-sheik.
It is like a four block of a Lego brick with a windshield.
Yeah.
So, like, things have gotten bad enough that Harry Kim is like physically fighting off the prison gangs and
Like a fucking boss Janeway is the first one down the shoot with the fucking phaser rifle on wide
Blast a bunch of prisoners
Tuba comes down after her with the dust buster.
Hands on your hips.
And a couple more security guys come down.
They're getting set upon by a criteria and patrol ships.
And we kept it like inside Felix's ship,
which the last time we saw it was like a hoarder house.
It was like full of shit.
And now it's all like clean and nice.
I feel like the federation way of life
has really rubbed off on Nelix.
It was really like gray,
tilaxian gardens up in that ship.
It was full of cats.
Nothing worse on telling you.
I mean, does Nelix kind of look like Alf too?
Yeah, no wonder it was full of cats.
He was hard up for food sources.
Ben, this scene presents the greatest challenge
to any director of Star Trek.
And it is, can you make it look cool
for a captain of a Federation starship
to slide down a chute?
Yeah. Into a scene, phasers blasting. of a Federation starship to slide down a chute.
Into a scene, phasers blasting, and this is a success.
You want to know why it's a success?
You don't POV inside the chute and see a Janeway slide down
it toward the camera.
It's just a surprise that she shows up.
She bursts into the scene like fucking cool-ate man,
and it rules. The fun choice is being in the chute with her.
Yeah.
But that's also the wrong choice.
Yeah.
When we get back to the ship, like we get like one last little scene where the doc is
like pulling the clamps out of their brains.
And he's like, oh yeah, that was totally like making you guys angry-ass motherfuckers.
And in retrospect,
Zio was the only person, like, Zio was nuts as hell,
but he had figured out how to like,
how to like, channel that into manifesto writing energy, you know?
Weird button on this episode where like the last scene is like,
Zio being placed into the electric chair
and executed in this prison and Tom hanks is there like crying so sad
It's tough
Harry and Tom lockdown the corridor and Harry's like hey, so like I'm kind of thinking about being haunted
After this at Tom is like no dude come on take it from me
You're just a lot of
jails you're not haunted you're hungry yeah let's go get a burger buddy yeah
Paris is hungry for friendship and at sound dreams that dishes all you can eat Did you like this episode Adam? You know, I'm maybe even to get along with post-opestime,
but I don't like bullets and I don't like friends and I don't like you.
I'm just joking.
I feel like you are entitled,
and I don't use that word lightly, entitled to a prison episode,
and Star Trek every once in a while.
In prison for a crime you didn't commit specifically,
it was time. It was time.
It was time for one of these episodes.
High time indeed.
Kim being the O'Brien of Star Trek Voyager,
the person that we just vlog.
I did like the episode.
It was weird fun.
I expected more from the chute.
Yeah. As a thing, if you're going to name your your
episode, the chute, I expected it to be a little more exotic, a little more dangerous, a little
more interesting. It was not that. It was just your run of the mill chute. Is there like
a movie where they find out that the prison that they're in is a space station? I mean,
this is face off, right?
Like you're in a prison and then it's revealed that you're on an oil Derek or something.
Right.
When did face off come out to this person?
97.
This is 96.
Face off, bit this rhyme.
Face off did bite this rhyme.
This is a machine of Gershon in this episode though.
Which bit of a missed opportunity
not to have Gershon in here.
Yeah.
Yeah, like I mentioned on the last episode,
this is one that I always expect.
Like I expect this premise when I do a rewatch of TNG.
Yeah.
And I think that what I get it crossed over with in my mind
is that episode where Picard is in the
cell with the like super aggressive guy and the super passive is guy and the bullion
starfleet lady and they're eating hockey pucks and like I guess there's like some crossover
between this premise and that but I I really like this episode. I think it's just a fun
full-ageer premise and I had a great time watching it. You permit me to be Benjamin R. Harrison for a
second. It makes me sad that prisons of the future are still not interested in rehabilitation.
Yeah. Why can't the Aceritarians engage in a more restorative form of justice?
Yeah, they're a bunch of fucking assholes.
Fuck them.
Tell you what, Chris Pine's dad plays a great asshole in this episode.
Yeah, just a raging red asshole.
Yeah, one of the greats.
Well, Ben, one place where it's rare to encounter a raging red asshole is the priority
one message inbox. You want to go see what we got waiting for us in there?
Let's do it Adam.
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Need a supplement on it.
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supplement.
Yeah it's extra.
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Message is to the last two snuck and the better future to come.
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Yeah, yeah, and you're gonna I mean if you stick around we'll see you through the rest of whatever bullshit's coming
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You know what my favorite reality show is the natural
I had an entire mess down an entire apple cider and I'm halfway through my Topo Chico exotic pineapple flavored hard seltzer.
Is it good? Is that Topo good? I haven't had one of those.
I got this in a variety pack with other flavors and I would say like 60% of the flavors were bad. Oh no. So I had those
first and saved the ones that I liked for last. Yeah, that's a good strategy. But yeah this is my
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Question and apologies if you answered this earlier.
Where do you think is the best non-holiday
onboard location for chill hangs in Star Trek
Cannon? God, I don't know if this is just hack or easier or whatever, but like 10 forward
when I think of a place for chill hangs. Yeah. And it's not a holidayk. I think there's
a reason that Star Trek Picard started that series there. It is so familiar and so safe feeling and so
comfortable. It's where my mind starts for the answer to that question. I don't
I don't know even what my second choice would be. What about you? I'm gonna just for
variety's sake. I'm gonna go to one that is also close at a hand but slightly left of center. The the Ensens bunk area on the
Excelsior in Star Trek 6 that we got to go see in the episode where Tuvac goes
back to his memories of his of his yut. That was great. We've gotten to know like
what the Ensens bunk area is like a little bit in lower decks via the series
and seeing like two vach also having had that experience the the like dormitory style like
everybody sleeps in one room energy I mean it just seems like fun as hell like you get to know
your bunk mates really well I'm a fucking introvert and I have nostalgia for that, you know.
Yeah, you're right. That's a good choice.
So, uh, yeah, there's some chill hangs available.
I mean, like, I think anything not in Starfleet
is actually the chillest hang in the Star Trek universe,
like the people that don't go risk their lives.
Another point that Lower Decks has made.
Yeah, like everybody else has easier, more relaxed lives, but uh...
Right. But yeah, that's uh...
What's my answer?
Good answer.
If you've got a question like that to ask us, go to Maximumfund.org slash Jumbo Tron,
ask that kind of question.
Yeah. You might get a very thoughtful response
Yeah, from a couple of drunk idiots
Hey, Ben
What's that?
Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda?
Brother, it's me today
Yeah, feeling it I think we both are
But uh, I mean, we'll never have another opportunity to give it to Beans Maraco, will we?
We really won't. I mean, Beans Maraco on-screen for all of 10 seconds.
But he really makes a racket with those 10 seconds, huh?
He makes a racket with those 10 seconds, huh? He makes a racket with those 10 seconds, and gets a like opening credit's name check.
Do you like that?
I mean, look, it's not great.
Anytime you have to share a screen credit wise
with a bunch of other people, not ideal.
I think he shares with two others.
But where does your eye fall, Ben?
Fall's on Beans Morocco, is a name.
I don't even remember the other two credits on screen at the same time.
Yeah.
And that's the effect that a Beans Morocco has.
That is why you make your nom to care Beans Morocco.
It's one of the great, greatest gen names.
It really is.
Right up there with Ron Canada.
It's right up there with Biff Yeager.
The OGEist of of the OG names.
How about you?
Did you have a drunk shimata?
Oh yeah, I mean I'm gonna put my chips on top of yours.
It's my rocker.
Great.
Easy, done.
Done, done and dusted.
Objection noted, we'll do this without a bullet.
What if you do it? If you do it?
Do it.
Alright, Ben.
I mean, this is going to disappoint some people.
We do have an episode coming up next.
In the series.
It's Star Trek Voyager Season 3 episode 4.
What is its title and what is it about, Ben?
It's called the Swarm and the cap is as follows.
While the crew battles a swarm of alien ships,
KESS races to prevent the doctor's memory circuits
from deteriorating.
Well, there's a chance we watch this in a weird way.
The only way we're gonna know that is by going to
Gachda Bizslash Game and the Game of Buttholes
the will of the caretaker.
Yeah. I'm looking at our game piece
throbbing on top of Quark's face on square 18. Yeah. Yeah. Couple squares ahead. We got something
bad. His eyes uncovered the Tamarion style episode that friends of DeSoto love to hate. Yeah,
they do not care for. And it's up to me. It's up to you, man.
You got to roll that bone.
You're required to learn as you play.
Roll.
Alright, I've got the die in my hand.
It's up to me to avoid that square.
And avoid it I have by rolling a one.
Okay.
Chula!
Did I win?
Harvey.
We're on square 19.
We're still in the second row.
Where we've been for years now.
For a really long time.
This is, we've broken the streak of drinking episodes.
We're back to a semi sober rep.
Normal amount of sobriety.
That's the way we'll bring you the next episode.
I'm looking forward to it personally.
I might still take a broughed anyway. Yeah
We're the vitamins. It's just good fights. Yeah
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It will continue to play.
Yeah, we do continue to play it.
I think there's a new square impending on the game of
Buttholes, the will of the caretaker.
So that's coming.
We got to thank Adam Regusia, who made our original music for the program and dark
material, who made the Picard song, upon which all of that was based.
We got to thank the friends of Disoto, who have created amazing communities all across
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greatestgen.
Thanks for being cool people who are cool to each other and treat each other with decency
and respect.
Yeah, there's a secret Shemoda gift exchange that may or may not be over at this point,
but it's a yearly bit of holiday cheer that the friends of DeSoto do with and for each
other. That's just great. Some friends of DeSoto have made a FOD
community cookbook. It's writers reached out to us a while back to contribute
some recipes. We've done that. Yeah, all proceeds of this book are getting
donated to the hunger project, which
is a global charity. Oh yeah, yeah, this is great, this book. And there's like, they did
a really great job of like making sure that the recipes are really international, all
kinds of different, we scenes represented, and it's a really, it's a really delightful thing. And we made a bitly, it's bit.ly slash exo-cook.
To get that cookbook.
Yeah, so it may not be too late to get that in time
for the major December holidays,
but get it for yourself.
You've got to get it for as a gift.
Get it for yourself and start making some fun food.
Be selfish for once in your life, you know?
Yeah. Do something for you. Well, Adam, I think with that we should probably get out of
here and we'll be back next week with another great episode of Star Trek Voyager, an episode
of the greatest generation Voyager that is wearing some pretty old-timey costumes Give some reason. Oh, you don't say no
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