The Greatest Generation - The Bruce McGillification of Our Unhoused Neighbors (VOY S5E23)

Episode Date: May 1, 2023

When Seven of Nine gets recruited for a classified time mission, finding Voyager’s saboteur takes her all the way back to Utopia Planitia. But when past Janeway meets up with future future Braxton, ...even 30 years of 20th-century suffering doesn’t absolve his time crime. In what arena is Ben equivalent to Michael Jordan? Where does Seven keep her tricorder? Who is the Bono of the crew? It’s the episode that barely remembers Lieutenant Carey!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!Get a thing at podshop.biz!

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Starting point is 00:01:55 and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdececoto for Labor.com. That's FriendsOfDecoto for Labor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Here's to the finest crew in Starfleet. Engage! Watch your back shot. Hello. I'm Captain Captain Bringengwe. The U.S. says, Forbidden. Captain Captain Captain Bringengwe. The U.S. is for the... Captain Captain Captain that's how you do a sync clap.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Yeah, we clap on the ones the twos, the threes, but not the fours, never the fours. No, no, it's not us, that's not how I like to dance. Would never. I don't like to dance at all. You don't like to dance? But you do, you're a great dancer. You've got dance bravery that I just don't possess
Starting point is 00:03:06 It's fun to cut a rug, you know some of the best fun to be had. It's just letting it all loose You know what that sounded like a cutting thing to say to you and that's not how I meant it like boy You're so brave for dancing out there like you do like a Real inspiration you really do dance like nobody's watching Like you don't care how that comes across. Man, I wish I could care a little less about people thinking that I'm a terrible dancer. God. I don't even know when I'm hurting people anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Quad box apology. Get it ready. Yeah. Yeah. Just done the launch pad at all times. How's your day going Ben? Mm, going all right, we're, we were supposed to record this one yesterday, but yesterday we also recorded that drunk a soda.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Right. I think everybody appreciates that we didn't just roll into another one right after whatever that was. I'm excited to hear that episode because I feel like we got drunk and mean at the episode in a way that may be unusual. We weren't that mean, come on. I'm sure it's fine.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I'm sure it's great. We're not mean drunks. I'm not. I'm a sleepy bubbly drunk. That's me. Yeah, I'm a get friends of DeSoto concerned for my safety drunk. Apparently. Is that how it oh, are you referring to sketch fest? Yeah. Have we told anything about that story on the show? We wound up at a Tiki bar after our show at Sketch Fest. And I really turned out, and apparently some of the friends of ours that tagged along were
Starting point is 00:04:50 worried that I was dangerously intoxicated. I, on the one hand, like I'm glad people care. But on the other hand, like you don't see anyone, anyone shooting free throws with Michael Jordan going, boy, he's way too good at basketball. Or whatever. Like, to me, this is just like someone who hasn't been around you at a Tiki bar might think that there's something to be concerned about, but no, this is banded a Tiki bar is a professional.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Many would say that that's when I'm the most in control, much like Michael Jordan on a court. I mean, barrel drinks at Smuggler's Cove are no joke. And you got to be careful with the barrel drinks. And luckily, you're a barrel drink professional. I knew you were fine. You was going to know better than me. I heard about that the next day
Starting point is 00:05:46 that some concerns had been voiced and I was like more confused than anything. Because you were blacked out. You didn't hear him that night. You didn't hear the whisper. I've never actually blacked out. Well, good for you. That I know of.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I mean, would you even remember? Yeah, exactly. No, I don't think that they were being voiced to me is the thing. But yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, that's part of what made it uncomfortable for me was like the constantly telling people that you're fine on your behalf. Like, yeah. Like, and then the camera pans over to me, just having a great time in the other.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Look, look at him. He's clearly fine. To get serious for a moment, I will say this, if you're concerned about someone, tell them. Like, what are you doing telling me for? What am I gonna do that you're not gonna do, you know? Yeah, just tell me, I'm not gonna react badly, I'm a nice guy. Yeah, you're fine.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Everything's fine, you're drinking fine, my drinking's fine. Smuggler's Cove, very fine. Yeah, that's a good bar. Was that twice that we went to the cove during sketch fest? I feel like it once is never enough. Yeah, I think we did go twice. No. Wait, what was unfortunate was that,
Starting point is 00:07:14 what's the other place in the hotel with the floating barge, with the band on it? You're thinking of the Tonga room, which we didn't get to. Tonga room was closed when we were there. And that was a great disappointment Yeah, and we also wanted to go to that one that's like in the fuselage of a crashed plane in the jungle Is the theme of the take bar and that that was also closed the night that we thought to go there
Starting point is 00:07:37 So that just combines too many things that I love We were in Vegas for a thing and there was like a crashed fuselage in a parking lot of a thing that we were at. And I just got all up in that thing. Like, I was not supposed to do that. I was not allowed to do that, but I'd been drinking. There were chains around it and the sign that specifically forbade going inside.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I wanna go into planes. I think the one thing that I wanna to do, like the bucket list plane thing right now, that I really want to do is go to a bone yard and get all up in some dead planes. I want to walk around those dusty ass planes. I got to do that once on a job, like back when I was a pro video producer and I've been chasing that fucking drag. And ever since. Yeah, I went to a bone yard in Mojave, which was really, really cool. I didn't get to go in though. The planes were all closed. A dead plane is a dangerous plane.
Starting point is 00:08:35 You got to watch out. Why? Because it could like start and fly off at any moment. When you leave the doors open, all manner of of critter desert critter gets inside a dead plane, you know, they want to smell those parts that have been there since it was in service. There's a desert plan on a set. I was at that was full of snakes, they said, like the the DB Cooper ladder was down on the back of the 727. And they're like, yeah, you can go up in it,
Starting point is 00:09:05 but I wouldn't advise it, it's snake season. And snake season super seated my interest in going on a dead plane. I didn't do it. I was afraid of snakes. Yeah. Like I'm fine with snakes in a zoo where somebody can be like, this is a safe snake
Starting point is 00:09:23 and then hand it to me or whatever. But like rogue snake on a plane, that sounds terrifying. I was on Hollywood Boulevard last week and walked past snake handlers there. It's not just spiders, man, and Jimmy Kimmel show or whatever, it is people walking around with snakes. Were they snake handlers in the sense of like, they had an extreme devotion to their faith
Starting point is 00:09:50 that they believe protected them from the snakes, or were they just like a weird guy with a boa constrictor? Two weird guys and two weird snakes. Okay. What was what they were? You could like pay to get your picture with the snake. I guess so This is the snake that worked with Britney Spears in that one music video I would take a picture with that snake. Yeah, I think that snake still alive
Starting point is 00:10:14 I think that that snake is retired in the valley and Eddie from Frazier is his roommate That snake is not only alive, but it's still very horny from the experience. Wouldn't you be? Yeah, I mean, I still am, and I had a very different experience from that snake. Ben, we're talking about bone yards, but what I really want to be talking about is ship yards. Yeah. From the beginning of this episode, we need to discuss. You want to get into it? That's a nice pivot at him. That's a mission log great pivot. And now and you can tell your personal friend John champion that you made it. Please like me. I pivot. I pivot. It's Star Trek Voyager season five episode 22
Starting point is 00:11:03 Relativity. Season five, episode 22, relativity. Revert course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots, I'm not turning around. Fire. And boy oh boy, this slow panning shot over the Utopia, Plenicia shipyards, while people are alive working there, easy to forget that at one point,
Starting point is 00:11:20 this is a functional shipyard with living people on it. Yeah, bars are still on fire. on fire after what happened to it. I know. But this is a happier, simpler past. A golden age, some might say. Yeah, what a fate. You getting there any trouble last night? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I read a very fun thing about this sequence, which is that the visual effects people worked on this from love and that scope. You know, like they were told, give me a couple of seconds at the shipyard and make it look awesome. Yeah. And the artists at foundation imaging were like, well, we're not going to just make a couple seconds. We We're gonna do like a whole sequence, and you're gonna use two seconds of it. And that's what they did. They're making all these cool ships,
Starting point is 00:12:10 and all the ships have something to do there, and it's a very complex sequence that they did. And the only tragedy is like, yeah, like we're the only ones that have the super high resolution, glory shots. And all you got on TV, on the UPN or whatever is two seconds of what's basically Star Trek scrambled porn. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:34 It's great. You see all different kinds of space stocks. Like you see the crab one that we saw a couple episodes of TNG. We see the kind of long tubular ones that you fly out of at the beginning of your Star Trek movie. Yeah. A space stock is probably always good, right? Like it doesn't age itself out of usefulness.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Yeah, I would guess that, yeah, I mean, they also look very modular. So if there's like a part that is like no longer useful in constructing these new classes of ships, you could swap it out probably. Yeah. And then there's Voyager. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:13 And we see Voyager like kind of not battleship gray, kind of a kind of lighter color than we see her in service, right? Yeah, was that the lighting or was that that it just hadn't had its final coat of paint yet? That's just like the primer before they spray it down. Great question. You know, there's like a version of a starship model
Starting point is 00:13:34 like of all kinds. Like you can get, Bri Belkies got like a Borgified Voyager ship model. Like I wonder if she's got the white model. The primer Voyager. That's got to be a thing. I'm finna pay it money green when I get paid, but for now, it's just covered with primer. And she beams aboard and did I hear that track in your car the other day? your car the other day. Probably. She beams aboard and meets an admiral who's gonna walk her through her new ship. Kind of a grandad, Merle, if you ask me. Yeah. You know, a real
Starting point is 00:14:17 white hair. I feel like he's going for the same thing that Captain Riker of later years is going for, but Captain Riker is hitting it way harder. You know? Tell me what you mean by that? Like, he's got kind of the same haircut and the same white beard, but like, I don't know, just doesn't look as good as him on him as it does on Riker.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Yeah, I mean, that's not a slam on him. Riker never stops being a stickman, and I think Admiral Patterson kind of wound that down 20 years previously. That's like a trinket on his desk now is his captain's stick. He's got a dick and cock duck. Admiral Patterson sort of reminded me of Bunny Colvin
Starting point is 00:15:04 from the wire. He's always like springing a question on you. If you're under him and the chain of command, kind of make sure you're staying sharp on all four corners. He demands something of bun edition Janeway who is just about to take command of this starship and starts giving her the grand too. Yeah, it's bun and bunny, isn't it? Yeah, there you go. Was bunny the one that always asked where North was and what address you were at at a given time?
Starting point is 00:15:32 Yeah, right, so that if you're like calling something in on the radio, you don't have to stop and think about it. I never forgot that. That was really cool. I mean, it didn't inspire me to do it, but I think about doing it. And that's enough, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Admiral Patterson, unfortunately, was forced into early retirement because he tried to make sort of a, you know, liberalized zone for selling sucked-disk games at a Starfleet installation that he was in charge of. He's legalized drugs. Yeah, the sucked-disk injection zones. Yeah. Very unpopular.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah, he was trying like a harm reduction thing by like sort of decriminalizing it, but he didn't really have the authority to decriminalize it. And when the paper got ahold of that, woof. A lot of confidence in Daken Matthew's performance here to introduce him as like maybe not a fun kind of admiral with a bunch of questions, but Janeway and he get along really well.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Janeway is sort of his favorite student. There's that kind of energy to it. Yeah, there's a real teacher student affection between them. Voyager may not be as big as a galaxy clash ship, but she's quick and smart, like a captain. She's sort of bragging on what a bookworm she's been, too. She's like, oh yeah, like I can walk this ship with my eyes closed because I know the schematic so well.
Starting point is 00:16:49 She's ready for this command. Do you think when you're a captain and you're given a command, there's gotta be the instinct to like, boot it up in the holodeck. I wanna get in there now. But sort of like a saving the presence for Christmas morning kind of thing. Like maybe a captain of a certain type is like, I'm just looking at the blueprints.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I want the first time I'm on that bridge to be the real time. The first time I sit this ass in that big chair, I want it to feel real to me. Yeah. I mean, if you're like buying a car, you want to test drive it, right? Like, I could see wanting to be the, you know, to have the holodeck reps before I do the real thing. Yeah, like part of it is gotta be you don't want to look like a dope in front of the crew. And like, you probably don't want to ask a dumb question about where something is.
Starting point is 00:17:42 You want to have that thing down cold. Oh, this computer screen flips out. Ah, gotcha, gotcha, got is. Right. You want to have that thing down cold. Oh, this computer screen flips out. Ah, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Right. They kind of do this, sort of, throughout the ship. They see a bunch of spots. They see corridors. They see the bridge.
Starting point is 00:17:55 They see the ready room. And in the ready room, Janeway helps herself to the replicator. Like it's hers already. Yeah. Nobody's thrown you command codes yet, Janeway. Just helping yourself. All right. As far as security goes,
Starting point is 00:18:10 this is like an iPad without a pin on it. Like you can just go anywhere and do anything of a ship's in a shipyard, right? You've probably need really great security there. Yeah, not just anybody gets a board. And yeah. Yeah, I really liked the way the office felt super generic with no stuff hanging on the walls, no plants, no books yet.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Yeah. No pictures of Tom Mervins yet. The clothes you love to live in. We haven't even taken the photo that I will frame. We haven't even adopted the dog yet. We're just dating now. We aren't at photo level. So they walk out onto the bridge. Janeway's talking about, oh, I'd like to do some stuff to the navigational sensors. I think that they could be improved relative to what I've read about. And as she's talking to the admiral but this the the focus shifts to the
Starting point is 00:19:07 Ensign kneeling in the foreground and it's none other than Dolphin Free 7. I almost didn't recognize her. It's a good like stand up into frame and like furtively look left and right before we smash to theme song. This may seem like a minor thing, but if you are composing this moment in camera, you must be on Jerry Ryan's left side of her face, right? This moment does not read if the shot is reversed, you know? Because if you don't see that there's no dolphin, you don't see that something strange. Right. No dolphin, no strange. After the theme, seven continues her undercover work, and she creeps into a conference room
Starting point is 00:19:54 to take a personal phone call the way I used to do. Back when I worked in an office. She says, no sign of the weapon, which is something I've never said into a phone before. I don't know about you. That's That's like what ladies usually say when they get your pants off for the first time, right? I keep digging around Where is it? Is that a Not a weapon in here? I
Starting point is 00:20:22 Mean it could be confused for one, I guess. Hmm. She has to kind of play it off like she's not on a personal call and go pretend to be tricordering a screen when Janeway and Admiral Patterson come in and Janeway absolutely fucking slams whatever architect designed the conference room. Starfayx smells up to date vessel and they still can't design a comfortable place to hold a meeting. Yeah. Absolutely savage. Is her opinion about this? I thought it was pretty interesting that they broke the fourth wall
Starting point is 00:20:54 and the camera just pans over and you start to see the edge of the set and the crew there and all the lighting. And then just like one person who clearly like designed this set standing there with a single tear rolling down their cheek. and then just like one person who clearly designed this set, standing there with a single tear, rolling down their cheek. Pretty rough day at the office for that person. They really put that in the script, she didn't add lip that. What the hell?
Starting point is 00:21:16 I know you don't wanna do it. Coffee black, make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. We met up with a prop designer not too long ago who worked on every Star Trek show. And the pain that he felt about being just generally ignored by big Star Trek throughout his career, by being uninvited or unwelcome to all of the big Star Trek events, you know, as a person who really made a lot of cool shit
Starting point is 00:21:49 and knows a lot of things. I thought about that guy when you were talking about conference room designer. Yeah. Seven actually gets asked a question by the captain here. What do you think of the conference room? She replies it's efficient. Do you think she does this for Patterson's benefit? Like, I too can pop quiz my crew the way you did me.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I wanted it to be like, you have a strange affect about you, Ensign. Did you grow up on Vulcan or something like that? I guess when you're rolling with an admiral, you have to just anticipate that Ensign's are going to be a little bit uneasy when you start grilling them, right? Yeah. I was just thinking about like the Hanson expedition was so far before this moment, but like with access to time travel, no mention is made of seven's interest
Starting point is 00:22:45 in maybe going back and saving her parents from the nightmare that their lives become. She's okay, that part of her is in the past. I mean, she doesn't regret the trauma. She met her drone-ified dad and didn't even mention the idea of liberating him from the collective. So it seems like she's pretty much made peace with that.
Starting point is 00:23:10 She's writing a book. Yeah, fine. Janeway and Panersen go down to Six Bay, they fire up the EMH, so that he can be in the episode for a moment. Mm-hmm. It's personality. Could you do some work? He kind of gives some sass and they turn him back off and then head down to engineering.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Where seven meets Lieutenant Kerry, who it was fun to see. I wonder, didn't he, like he was like in competition with BLT for, Yeah. Chief engineer, right? He didn't ever die, did he? He's very much alive and very veer-o in this moment.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Mm. You forget that about Lieutenant Kerry. Hello? Sir. Lieutenant Kerry. I don't think we've met. James Anna, service number 860790. I'm not security.
Starting point is 00:24:01 He's all in on this new crew person. Yeah, I mean, he says the thing about I'm trying to get to know all the new faces around here and it's like lieutenant Kerry, if you're trying to get to know the new faces, I think your eyes should be a few inches above where they currently are resting. Yeah, those aren't faces. Lieutenant Kerry. I think this is a demonstration of how good Seven has become at interpersonal relationships, though, because this is a pretty good blow-off by her. A blow-off in a way that doesn't create a scene. Do you need a hand? No.
Starting point is 00:24:37 She dips into a Jeffries tube and is crawling around scanning for temporal readings on this very fancy like low profile tricorder that she's got. I love this. And she finds them. Yeah. Deck 4 section 39. She pulls a panel off a wall and we see her POV
Starting point is 00:24:59 and it's interesting because it doesn't really look like the three-quarter shot that we get of what's inside the panel. It's like she's seeing something different than what we can see. Yeah. And because it's kind of the green vision, it's like she's always wearing tinted lenses. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:25:16 Yeah, she's very much the bano of this crew. And this device is the titular weapon that she's looking for and she starts working on it. If seven is working on the titular weapon, is it titular weapons versus titular weapon? Mm. Yeah, if you wanna go for that kind of bargain basement, kind of humor at it, I guess. Oh, God, John Champion would be so disappointed in me.
Starting point is 00:25:45 God damn it. You started on such a high. You had such a great pivot at the beginning. This always happens. The more someone learns about me, the less interested they are and being friends. He starts trying to work on this thing and it kills an EPS conduit,
Starting point is 00:26:03 which is immediately noted by Lieutenant Kerry. And he's like, Oh, don't worry, Captain, I'll go check it out. And Jane was like, no, no, no, no. Yeah, Lieutenant Kerry, not too busy scouting new ass to see this on his computer screen. But Janeway wants to go check on it herself. She's dying to get into those Jeffries tubes. So she volunteers to do it.
Starting point is 00:26:26 And poor Admiral Patterson has to get on hands and knees and follow. I didn't expect that. Don't make him get in the Jeffries tube, Jane. Wait, look at him. He's old. I feel like Jane was trying to shed this dead weight and get some alone time on her brand new ship, right? Now need to follow Admiral. I've got this one myself. Do you think that she's trying to like test if there's something wrong with the universe by seeing if he like disappears from reality by ditching him? Does anyone remember Admiral Patterson?
Starting point is 00:27:02 And they're all like, uh, Patterson. And they're all like, uh, inside the Jeffries tube seven can't disable this weapon because it is out of phase. And knowing where it is, is just going to have to do for now. They'll need to figure out when this thing is at a later point. And outside the door, like everyone's very surprised that it's locked from the inside Mm-hmm, and that there's cronotone particles time travel behind it It's like my college roommate coming home to the dorm room we shared at like a kind of surprise time in the middle of the day Why is this door locked? No reason?
Starting point is 00:27:43 I'll be right there. The very peculiar smell of coronatons. Just hit some right in the face as soon as they open the door. Why do coronatons smell exactly like the lotion that is on the desk? Why is the fan on your computer cranking at top speed? Inside, things are getting pretty intense. Seven tells whoever she's been talking to that she needs to get the hell out of there and aboard the time ship.
Starting point is 00:28:18 They're looking at graphics, depicting what's going on. On a time ship, you're just looking at dots, right? You're looking at dots and graphs. You're not looking at pictures of people at all. Never need to look out the window. And they deduce from these dots that they gotta use the time-transported to get her out of there.
Starting point is 00:28:35 And they do. They beam her out, but there's like a problem with the phase or something, and they're like worried about it, being bad for her health. They get her out just in time for Jane Wann Patterson to not discover her in this Jeffries tube, but when seven materializes on the transport patch, she immediately collapses. And the camera pushes in on Bruce McGill horrified. She's dead. Says RSVP seven.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Bruce McGill, such a welcome sight. Yeah. Love a Bruce McGill. I love that guy. Yeah. I thought we emptied out the character actors, bag in the last episode. No!
Starting point is 00:29:19 There's still one left, guys. We got a Bruce McGill in here. There are still dad bod middle age white guys available for McGill in here. There are still dead-bud middle-aged white guys available for this episode in Hollywood. It's so Star Trek for the curiosity of this moment to be those cronoton particles or the cronoton flux and not that the door was locked from the inside. Like, no one talks about that again.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Yeah, yeah. There's coffee in that chronotone flux of 0.003. Bruce McGill tells his underling, Duquesne, like, hey, yeah, we're gonna have to recruit her again because we gotta solve this problem. We're cleaning up a mess and this is what it's gonna take. And Duquesne is like, man, that's fucked up. Like it's going to really start to like affect her. And he's like, tempest fugit, baby.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Yeah. This is a moment that really divides the audience, right? Right. Who sat you on? Ducaine or Braxton? Braxton's cruelty on full display here, willing to sacrifice seven for this mission. A mission we don't even know about. Yeah. So we come in to the present as it were looking at the APOV of the doctor. And we can tell it's seven's POV because of the matrix-like tint to the video. But it's all blurry and she's got like double vision.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Yeah. She's done that thing where she's done her own web MD research and diagnosed herself with something really exotic. Yeah. You can't do that. No. That's bad. It's the classic mistake of my wife. Oh, really? I'm constantly trying to talk her out of having a serious disease or me having a serious disease.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I'm like, no, it's fine. It's nothing. And then, you go to the doctor and they're like, no, you were right. It's just bad. Every other day she bursts into the room. Ben, I figured out what your generalized problems are. WebMD had the answers. It turns out.
Starting point is 00:31:36 It's never been me. It's always been you. Yeah. So the doctor injects her with something to fix her mild aphasia and it fixes the situation right up but the doctor gets called away to 6 Bay and he kind of touch her for Googling her symptoms. Yeah easy fix for the doc just
Starting point is 00:31:59 hyposprae it away. Yeah, neck on that's how the hyposprae works, right? it away. Yeah. Neck on. That's how the hyposprae works, right? Apply directly to the neck. Neck on. Apply directly to the neck. Neck on. Apply directly to the neck. In a corridor, Paris is playing solitaire ping pong. I play ping pong, even when I didn't have anyone to play ping pong with. And invites seven to play as his doubles partner that night. Yeah. This is something that she's not interested in doing until she hears that BLT will be on
Starting point is 00:32:43 the side of their opponent. Interesting that BLT and Paris are not a team in this context. I was confused by this too. But I guess that's sometimes the way, right? Sometimes in mixed doubles, people turn the pineapple upside down. So in the scene that follows, we're back in BLT and Tom Paris's, I guess, shared quarters. And BLT is like, Tom, I didn't know what you want to be on the
Starting point is 00:33:13 same team as me. I thought that would be fun. And Paris is like, whoa, whoa, whoa, is this an ambush or something? I thought it was cool. Plus, the teams were randomized and BLT is like, well, you didn't try hard enough to be on my team. Yeah. It's like, well, we didn't talk about it. So I assume just going by the tournament rules was okay.
Starting point is 00:33:33 She's like, that's the big mistake, is that you just assumed. You just let things happen all the time, Tom. And just so like the rest of the episode is just a big kind of existential relationship fight because it kind of spins out of control from there. Like she globalizes that about him being like really careless and then he gets really hurt that she is rounding this up to like some major character flaw that he has.
Starting point is 00:33:59 And it's Tom like doing a bunch of scientific research into time travel, paradoxes, and he actually like distills enough chronometric particles to go back in time to the night of the ping-pong draft, where he somehow fixes it so that he will be on the same team as BLT and stopping this entire horrible timeline from starting at all. Right. But then she finds out that he did that and she's like, that doesn't solve the problem, Tom. The problem is that you didn't think to do it in the first place.
Starting point is 00:34:33 That score? 1918? So did you like this episode, Adam? It's like you're not listening to me. I'm telling you about my problems with the ping pong draft, not because I want you to solve them, I just want you to listen. I want you to be there for me while I'm going through a thing. So seven is willing to be Paris's partner and there is no drama about that moment at all
Starting point is 00:35:03 from anyone. Yeah. I mean, you know, to his credit, Tom isn't weird or jealous about Harry being BLT's partner. No. And you think he would be given how promiscuous Ensign Kim has been lately. Yeah. Just from like a personal safety standpoint, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:22 like like Blanna, who knows where that thing's been? Something about it reminds me of being in the womb. What up, Harry? Who are you? Harry Kim. Parents must be very proud. Who are you? They come as come as a pair.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Who are you? Harry Kim. Who else is she supposed to get chummy with? Harry Kim and your mom. Very proud. Who are you? Harry Kim. I lasted 22 minutes.
Starting point is 00:35:44 And your mom. Very proud. Harry Kim. Who are you? Barry Kim. I lasted 20 minutes. And you're Mark Barry Brown. Barry Kim. Who are you? Barry Kim. Who knows where he stuck his paddle? Paris is totally obsessed with the sterility of the paddles. And like, has like an 80s Reagan era understanding of how germs are passed.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Like, like, use this weird paper gasket around your paddle. BLT, I don't want you catching anything from that guy. Ah, yes, extremely thin one ply paper, the thing that we protect ourselves from pathogens with in all contexts. Over in Six Bay, Janeway enters the doctor's office looking absolutely pedragold. Space sickness is the thing that's going around. Yeah. And it's sort of waved off as a thing that everyone gets from time to time.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Yeah, but it's catching. It's like more than one person has had this symptom lately. It's gone airborne. Yeah. It spreads like more than one person has had this symptom lately. It's gone airborne. Yeah. It spreads like flu. Impossible. We cut over to like the lab part of Six Bay and someone has got like a spinner device full of vials.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Oh yeah. They're trying to figure out like what's going on with the space sickness. Yeah. But they're like eating a sandwich at the same time. Yeah. You got to pay attention when you reach your hand into the center fuge. Uh-huh. Oh boy, that busts the glove and then they have it.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Oh no. And if one of them gets out of sea to Greek belly, then we're in deep fucking shit. Oh, this is bad. And we're all ready in deep fucking shit. And then Morgan Freeman is there and he wants to turn it into some kind of bio weapon. And if you're gonna rest me now, all right Sam, all right. Yep. Can't trust Morgan Freeman in this movie.
Starting point is 00:37:30 But it's great casting because he kind of assumed that you can in all cases, right? Yeah, I love that. At the ping pong tournament, Tom is going for a great big spike of the ball to absolutely crush Harry Kim for stealing his girlfriend. And he hits it in the ball just like stops in midair right above the net. I love this moment because seven scans it and the scans a temporal distortions, but then the ball continues. And Nielix counts it as a point. That's amazing. Where did Seven get that tricorder? Did she have it like in her back pocket or something?
Starting point is 00:38:08 Oh, yeah. Are you allowed to play with the tricorder? Because she's in the game. Yeah. I don't like that at all. Yeah. Bad officiating from Nelix and, you know, there should be a little bit more controls over
Starting point is 00:38:19 whether you get to bring scanning devices to the tournament or not. I think it's Nelix's job to both officiate and make sure no one's bringing a contraband in there. And I think tricorder's qualified. That could be a performance enhancing tricorder. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:36 So this is the first time the crew has noticed that something may be fucking surrounding space time. And we go down to the ASLAB where they've got a map of the ship and they're showing surrounding space time. And we go down to the As lab where they've got a map of the ship and they're showing that space time is starting to get messed up all over the place. And they're erecting force fields around the parts of the ship that are affected. But the force fields don't seem to be totally helping
Starting point is 00:38:59 because at this point, six Bayes just full of people that are experiencing this space sickness. I love the stoic professionalism of a group of people who learn that they've got two hours to live. Like, these breaches are going to destroy the ship and everyone knows it. Everybody is pretty much chilling the most. Like, Nielux is the one person
Starting point is 00:39:23 that's got kind of an emergency attitude. He calls the doctor down to the restaurant to check on Ensign Manus. And Ensign Manus is fine. Ensign Manus is like doing solitary on his laptop. Yeah. Until he isn't. I mean, Ensign Manus' laptop is facing away from the camera. So really, who knows?
Starting point is 00:39:41 What could be on there? I love this take though. Like, this is such a great take for comedy. It's like looking at it's in madness. He's great. He's ship shape and then bonk. He just falls right over. The doctor uses a visual aid of the computer on the nearby Replicator to show what time it
Starting point is 00:40:00 is in the restaurant and what time it is in 6 Bay. And it's two different times, Adam. Yeah, this is why daylight savings can't work. Can we just get all the decks on the same page? Right, Ben, everyone would sleep better if Six Bay and the Mess Hall would just stop fooling around with the time. That's what I think.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Isn't like China all on one time zone or something like that? There's some like really big country that's like surprisingly decided to just all be on one time zone or something like that? There's some really big country that's surprisingly decided to just all be on one time zone. If China does it, it's okay. That's your stated position on things. Yeah, I'm saying, let's follow their lead in all things. Over in the ready room, Chico Te tells Janeway
Starting point is 00:40:42 that this space-time problem is somehow getting worse than two hours to live. She wasn't really on board for this until she tastes her coffee and then she's like, this is a huge problem Chico Tay. We need to self it. Suddenly, the bar rescue voice over a guy comes on and he's like, space time fractures have appeared all over Voyager, including the replicators, food prep, and walk in cooler areas. A spacetime fracture is a phenomenon
Starting point is 00:41:09 which the spacetime continuum is distorted, allowing unwanted travel through time. Your employees have been asked to walk through visitors at spacetime, and you're only paying them, minimum wage. What are you doing? Your server started to shift tomorrow, and they just showed up today? I don't understand how any of this works.
Starting point is 00:41:35 The only way to solve this problem is to get you a new Harvard Dense PLS system. These peaches haven't even been grown yet, they already have black mold of them shut it down So Chico day gets himself right in the middle of one of these Space-time flexes and Janeway sees it and is very concerning How fucking cool is Chico day in this moment to kind of look like he doesn't feel it and And when Jane Ways like, you've been caught in a rift, he's like, Oh, it's expanding. Sounds great. Let's go out to the bridge. Let's get out of here. Absolutely zero react from Chico Dei to this. Meanwhile, BLT and seven are back in that Jeffries tube and find the piece of technology or more accurately, seven finds the piece of technology.
Starting point is 00:42:27 BLT cannot see it or detect it. What is it? A piece of technology. The Borg implants and seven have enabled her to see just covered with Paris. You probably call that plaster of Paris, don't you? Hmm. Hmm. Gross. Could you say she was plastered of Paris? Jesus.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Let's think a couple more runs at this, Adam. Yeah, okay. Am I making any sense here? It'll be funny eventually. Let's take a couple more runs at this, Adam. Yeah, okay. Am I making any sense here? It'll be funny eventually. Call her left because Paris has plastered her. I've got to get bit. Not now put your lot number, your mouth.
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Starting point is 00:45:28 Do it, do it. Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. On the bridge, bangers are getting trapped everywhere, time bangers. And in a corridor somewhere else, the time crew has boarded the ship. Yeah. Harry Kim explains that like the ship is starting to demolecularize because of all these temporal fluxes and there's some code tossed out about the temporal flux
Starting point is 00:45:56 and Janeway recalls this number from the readings they got when they were in dry dock five years ago. It immediately comes back to her. The time guys grab seven and beam out with her right before Voyager kind of comes apart in this weird blue explosion. I just love seeing ships explode.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Yeah. Great sequence. It's a very different looking ship explosion than they normally do too. Yeah. The time explosion. Yeah, the pieces fragment and then kind of dissolve in an unusual way. Yeah, it was cool.
Starting point is 00:46:30 So when we come back, we're on the time ship, presumably in the 29th century, and Captain Braxton is recruiting seven. It's funny how we're recruiting pitch that goes like, I've already recruited you successfully before. You can't say no to that. You've already said yes many times. I already know what I need to say to you to get you to yes. So, resistance you might say is futile. Here's the thing about consent, Ben, is even though you've said yes many times before, you're still able to say no at any point.
Starting point is 00:47:07 You can withdraw it at any time. Yeah. They're trying to sell a mystery and they need seven's help. This is the pitch, right? There's a weapon that's made to fracture space time. We don't know who put it there or why, but it ends up on Voyager. And they've got to kind of narrow down to a moment when Voyager engaged with the K-Zone and everyone gets a good hearty chuckle at this because really the K-Zone, someone must have just taken advantage of the moment because this is clearly not a K-Zone move. Right. They don't have the technology for this, but them boarding Voyager provided cover for whoever it did.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Right. So they're going to get seven ready for a mission to go back to this period of time and recover the device to save Voyager to clean up the damage to the timeline that this is causing. Yeah. And Lieutenant Duquesne is going to be kind of getting her ready for this. And so he's like quizzing her on different types of time paradoxes and talking about different examples in Star Trek history of time travel. Get a little plot summary of first contact here. They have time to do a ton of research. Like they watch looper.
Starting point is 00:48:19 They watch a ton of movies. I mean, she has an infinite amount of time to study for this test, right? Or does she? We can never know. Oh, wow. So he equips her with a time gun and a time tricorder. Everything just sounds cooler that way, right? Yeah. And they like hide her dolphin. They give her a period appropriate garment so that she can blend in as a member of the crew. Captain Braxton gives her a license to kill. Yeah. This is a less plausible cover than she had last time
Starting point is 00:48:56 because when they were in dry dock, she could tell people, like, oh, I'm just on assignment. I work here at Utopia, Planesia. But now she's going to the stranded Voyager where, you know, it's a small town and everybody recognizes everybody. Yeah. Fortunately, all the chaos of the Kazon attack is enough to provide her coverage in the hallways. And we get some great like throwback, space battle footage of the Kazon shooting Voyager and Seven marching around in the hallway looking for that Jeffries tube area where the time device is being kept.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Is it important to talk about the acts that Braxton has against Janeway before sending Seven back? Because there's a moment that really bumps you here when Braxton's like, look, we've given you all the tools you need for a successful mission. All the greatest modern weapons are at your disposal, and Seven Briefly says the mind is the best weapon, etc. And then out of nowhere Braxton just goes hard at Janeway. She's reckless.
Starting point is 00:50:03 She has no regard for the integrity of the timeline. I asked for her help once. She refused. This was what made me remember who Braxton was. And it's me too. I think partly I was thrown off the scent earlier because he is recast. He was not played by Bruce McGill last time we met him. But he is the captain that got stuck in the 60s in futures and the double
Starting point is 00:50:27 episode featuring Sarah Silverman. What's up? Is this a show that is so confident in casting Bruce McGill as Captain Braxton that it's like, you know, if you've been unhoused for 10 or 20 years in the 20th century, it's going to change you. It'll Bruce McGill physically. Anyone. That's what's so stressful about modern society is that it feels like you're on footing where at any point, like one slip up, one bad medical diagnosis even, and your Bruce McGill, right?
Starting point is 00:51:10 Which is why, like, Well, we need is a Bruce McGill safety net bag. Right, and they're like trying to have this kind of punitive approach to solving the Bruce McGillification of our unhoused neighbors, and we really have to go more services first, you know? Get them headshots, get them some auditions. Yeah, I mean, seven so cool about doing that thing
Starting point is 00:51:30 where there's a hot head in front of her and she just describes something in a neutral way that does not further set off the hot head. Right. And seven in this moment is like, yeah, you're right, Janeway can be challenging to work with. And this totally diffuses the bomb that is kept in Braxton in this moment is like, yeah, you're right. Janeway can be challenging to work with. And this totally diffuses the bomb that is Captain Braxton in this moment.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Right, but this is just kind of like code for Janeway's an asshole, right? Like whenever you hear actors on set saying in an interview, this other performer can be really challenging to work with. Really brought everybody's a game. It's like, oh, is it redundant to say that this scene is time foreshadowing? Perhaps. That's the real ATM machine of, right, right, of statements, right?
Starting point is 00:52:20 No sooner has Seven gone in and started messing with this device than Harry Kim detects something weird going on with time. And they're like in media dog fight with the case on when he reads out the temporal reading that he's getting. And Janeway recognizes it again from space stock. He's like really, really on top of picking up Cronaton fluxes on board the ship. Yeah, almost like he's scanning for them all the time. Yeah, but when Seven gets to the
Starting point is 00:52:53 rule in the Jeffrey Stu, that device is not there yet. Yeah, uh-oh. She's in the wrong time. She's in the wrong time, but the right place. And those Cronatons having been detected, she, you know, needs to get out of there and quick. But level 10 force fields go up. And they blocked temporal comms. The time ship is not able to get seven back. This bump me did it bump you. You've got a fucking
Starting point is 00:53:22 time ship from 500 years in the future and somehow force fields are the thing that getcha. Come on. We've seen seven like walk through force fields. Right. Yeah. So Janeway arrives on scene now that they've got seven trapped and she asks her a bunch of questions and these answers are suspicious.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Yeah. And when two of us scan seven and reads her as a Borgs, oh, it's a whole thing. Ooh, that's gonna be a tough one to explain. Yeah. And I love the cross cutting between Captain Braxton, eavesdropping, and this moment here.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Like that really adds a lot of comedic tension to the scene in a fun way. Yeah, because they can hear what's going on, but seven can't hear them. So they're hearing her attempt to disemble and talk her way out of it without Janeway asking too many more questions. But eventually, seven has to just reveal the whole thing. Like, yeah, okay. I'm a time traveler. I've been sent to get this time bomb, temporal bomb, out of your jeffries too, but it's not there yet. We screwed up.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And I just really needed to forget we ever had this conversation. That fun thing happens where someone says something crazy and then it's repeated by someone else and it sounds just as crazy when when Janeway says it. But there is a very serious moment here which I thought was really affecting. There's at the most desperate time for seven, she appeals to Janeway's interest in trusting her. Like intrinsically, there's this natural trust that Janeway has for strangers.
Starting point is 00:55:08 And it was something that was extended to seven when she first came on the ship. And this is enough to convince her to lower the force field. That combined with the thread of imminent death that seven believes to be at stake. And Janeway like extends that trust. She retracts the force field and extends the trust. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Almost simultaneously, right? Yeah, it's like a swap. They head back into the Jeffries tube because seven is getting a reading that the bomb is being installed right now, moments away from them. Yeah. And they head down the tunnel and who should turn around? But Captain Braxton? Oh, I can't believe this.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Me. More accurately, a future you. I was very surprised by this. This might be plot by numbers. Like, I don't know, I fell for it. Yeah. I fell for it the whole time. It was great.
Starting point is 00:56:04 It was a great twist. Yeah. I love getting two Bruce whole time. That was great. It was a great twist. Yeah. I love getting two Bruce McGill's for the price of one. Oh yeah, do you think contractually, you got to pay him extra? Oh. I think you do. Yeah. And there's a third one too, a third one's referred to. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:56:17 But don't worry, they'll all be reintegrated in time for the trial. There are three instruments on the in stash of cat. You should take the rodal of the ship and you're going to do it. So there's a classic standoff where he's got the bomb activated and they've got their weapons drawn and he says you got to put them down. He reveals that he's really got an extra grind with Janeway. Yeah. His time as an unhoused person in LA was rough. Yeah. And this is like the future Braxton of future Braxton, like 29th century Braxton's future
Starting point is 00:56:59 Braxton is who we're talking to here. And future of future Braxton is like, yeah, like then I had to go back to rehab after this mission because I've done so much time traveling that it's messed me up. You know, I spent those three decades in 20th century. And in he, he like arrests future Braxton for the future crimes that, you know, feature a future Braxton is going to commit. Don't be absurd. The fact that you prevent it from happening doesn't change the fact that it was going to happen. It's such an interesting scene because like I was expecting future but not too future Braxton to want to arrest future, but not too future Braxton to want to arrest
Starting point is 00:57:49 too future Braxton as a show of like, right, I'm not that guy, that guy's fucking nuts. I'm time law and time order all the way. But instead future of future Braxton dips out, yeah, he beams himself away, but future Braxton successfully taken into custody and now Ducane is in charge of the case. And he's like, while he went into a different time period, but I'm not going to send you there seven because that would be the fourth time travel you've done. Let me tell you a little something about a man named Yor that you don't want to end up like. Oh, Yor're in all the literature about time travel. Yeah, really a warning to others.
Starting point is 00:58:30 You're not going to like what you hear. But seven is like no time for backup or is there? No, there isn't. Be me to the future. Who's backup? You're backup? And by the future, I mean the past. And we've been back to Voyager in Drydack, where Janeway is getting her tour from Admiral Patterson. And it's like a run and gun chase scene where she's chasing future of future Braxton down the hallway. And like Janeway and Patterson have to duck to not get shot. I love this. This is so fun. They erect force fields and future of future Braxton runs right into one. This is a chase scene that is begging for a Michael Bay shot, you know?
Starting point is 00:59:15 It really is, but Seven of Nine is like too woozy to catch him initially. Yeah. Yeah. Braxton beams away again and this time it goes five years ahead. Yeah, Braxton beams away again and this time it goes five years ahead. Yeah. And Seven gives chase. It's the night of the ping pong tournament in the mess hall and in Runs Braxton. And Seven shoots Braxton and shoots him again and shoots the thing out of his hand. Shoot him a bunch but doesn't bring him down. Braxton has made out a tough stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:44 He runs out of there. Yeah. Harry Kim and Tom run after him. And Seven of Nine, who was competing in the tournament, goes and meets Undolphin, Seven of Nine. And he's like, so what gives? What's this all about? And she's like, you're not gonna believe it.
Starting point is 01:00:02 He's like, you're not gonna believe it. I love Seven on Seven here. Seven of nine, two, seven of nine. What's your status? I love Seven in Seven. Very refreshing. Haven't had one of those in a while. Yeah. Pretty nice.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Before she can get much information out of Future Seven, Future Seven is beamed back to the time ship by Duquesne. But she's confident that the crew back in the present or whatever are gonna be able to stop future of future Braxton because his, his triangle was the key. Like you needed that to jump around in time. Right. So he's not, he's not gonna be able to go anywhere.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Back on Voyager Braxton is cornered, but it's not by seven, it's by Janeway. Yeah. His nemesis. He gives this whole rant about how he's lost his rank and like, you know, you don't realize how much he've ruined my life. It's a real vendetta. Yeah, because like he's he's spent like most of his career cleaning up time incursions that she's done. And then wound up being shamed into living this like ignominious force retirement by her. But then DuCane is gonna have to clean up his mess if he succeeds in this thing, right?
Starting point is 01:01:19 Right. I wonder if they thought about keeping the set from the town that Shannon O'Donnell visited to give them another option for Braxton and his intent to murder Janeway. Like a first contact style. Like go back into the past and stop Janeway before Janeway can even happen. We cut over to Star Trek First Contact, the movie. And Braxton is there, sabotaging Zefram Cochrane's warp flyer. How great would that be?
Starting point is 01:01:53 That would have been good. I mean, everyone loves Star Trek First Contact, but what my theory presupposes is that, doesn't it get a little better with Bruce McGill? Yeah, aren't there not enough time paradoxes in it? Yeah, yeah. I mean, we've already paradoxed the fuck out of this episode. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:14 So with future of future Braxton captured and beamed back to the 29th century by Duquesne, Janeway is talking to current day seven. She's like, what do you think just happened? And seven is like, I think like some kind of bad time travel shit was going down and we stopped it. And Janeway's like mid-response
Starting point is 01:02:33 when she gets beam to the time shift and gets to talk to Duquesne about what all went down. What a headache this is. Yeah. So they can reintegrate different versions of someone that have gotten split apart in time, apparently, in this is. Yeah. So they can reintegrate different versions of someone that have gotten split apart in time, apparently, in this future. Why sure you, when all this is over, they'll be just one seven of nine. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:02:54 So like you can refer to this integration, but we don't get to see it. Yeah. I wanted to see the integration. That would have been great. Yeah. It's not all cleaned up though. No. Now, and they're going to need one very special undercover officer to clean up the last of the mess. I get the feeling I'm about to be drafted. Because seven's unfit for this duty. And future
Starting point is 01:03:18 of future Braxton has to tell her like how to capture him. Yeah. When he makes it to the ship. tell her like how to capture him when he makes it to the ship. How embarrassing does it have to be for future of future Braxton to go? Yeah, like I beamed over and then I tripped over a guy. That's how you get me. You know, oops. I beamed over and there was a discarded banana peel right outside of Nielix's restaurant.
Starting point is 01:03:42 And I go ask over T kettle on that thing. That's pretty much the perfect moment to nap me. Yeah. Janeway goes back to Voyager during the case on attack when Braxton falls over. Yeah. And BLT sees her in the hallway and doesn't notice that she's gone from bun to Bob. Yeah. Thanks for not noticing my new haircuts. She's like confused that Janeway isn't on the bridge. BLT believes that Janeway has now gone into the holodeck in a canonical before a ship explodes kind of way, the crew retreats to the holodeck
Starting point is 01:04:16 for the moments before death. And the time Janeway wants to spend before dying is getting her hair done in a new way. Like, finally she'll take that risk with a new look. She's running her hollow mat. Yeah. Just a little off the top. She's like sneaking around.
Starting point is 01:04:32 She catches future of future Braxton, beaming a board as promised he trips and she nabs him. He can't believe she was right there to capture him when he be to board. Yeah. And back in the 29th century, Duquesne is like super duper impressed with how little she messed up the timeline by doing this. Duquesne points up to the mission accomplished banner on the bridge and is like, when you're a time ship, you just keep this up all the time
Starting point is 01:05:05 because your missions are always accomplished or going to be accomplished or about to be accomplished. And she's like, wait, do you mean your missions are always about to be accomplished or your missions are about to be accomplished? Big fun ending here. Yeah, she gets kind of scolded like, hey, knock it off with all the fucking time travel.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Yeah. But we're not gonna wipe your memory. You're going back with your memory intact. Hey, knock it off with the time travel so I don't turn into one of those kept and Braxton's. Hahaha. Would love to avoid that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:42 And they beam away and they time beam away, and we beam into the credits band. Did you like this episode? You know, I'm really easy to get along with close to this time, but I don't like bollies, I don't like friends, and I don't like you. You're the youngest dude.
Starting point is 01:05:59 I think that this episode does time travel episode right in that time travel is so silly. It doesn't make any sense. It is only interesting from a story standpoint when it is a bottle episode where it doesn't actually matter that this episode happened. So if you're going to do it, do it to be an entertaining rom and like make fun of how silly time travel is because that's that's the best going to do it, do it to be an entertaining rom and make fun of how silly time travel is because that's the best reason to do it.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Yeah, and so I feel like this episode does that. I feel like it doesn't take the time travel stuff too seriously and it doesn't like encode the results of time travel into the timeline too much. Like I guess the 29th century stuff is encoded into the universal little bit, but it kind of already was. So might as well have fun with it. I liked that we got to see Lieutenant Kerry. I guess I wished we'd seen Cass
Starting point is 01:07:01 like in the case on period. Whoa, what a great bringback she would have been. Yeah. But if you're going to get one, Lieutenant Kerry is a fun, like, deep cut character. And boy, having Bruce McGill on that episode, lots of fun. Yeah. How can you go wrong with the Bruce McGill? Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:22 How can you add him? Did you like this episode? I will agree with everything you said and I will add to it that this is maybe the best hair episode of all time. The hair continuity traveling forward and backwards in time. Yeah. You really need to have someone on top of that and they most definitely were, whoever's responsibility was to make sure that we had that straightened out. Really great stuff. And it helped you understand in what time period you were, just by looking at Janeway in her hair,
Starting point is 01:07:55 or BLT in her hair, which has also suddenly gone through changes. Totally. I really liked it a lot. A romp, a romp through time. So what this was. Well, do you wanna romp a romp through time So what this was all do you want to go on a romp through our priority one inbox? That's me Adam. Oh, yeah, let me put on my rompers first. Yeah, do that
Starting point is 01:08:19 Priority one message from star fleet coming in on secured channel Need a supplement Yeah, it's extra the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship Ben our first priority one message is of a promotional nature That message goes like this Elon his words compelled Darmak and Jalad on the ocean to Soto His arms wide translation we know a certain social media site is going downhill.
Starting point is 01:08:48 It's time to join one that comes with a community. Friends of DeSoto.social on Mastadon. There you will be welcomed by fellow FODs and guided into the next generation of social media. Meta4! So this is a message sent to us from the Friends of Disodo social over on Mastodon, and you can find it by going to Friends of Disodo.social to sign up. And if you're already on Mastodon, you can blow yourself out the airlock and
Starting point is 01:09:23 will tractor you in. I suppose you know what those words mean? Barely. I definitely don't feel like I've totally gotten my mind all the way around mastodon, but I'm liking it a lot. And I remember feeling about as confused with certain other social media site when I was first on board. Sure. And I feel like part of the fun is kind of getting the hang of it.
Starting point is 01:09:45 So I definitely endorse Friends of Disotto.social. I've been hanging out over there and it's a great group. Really positive, fun stuff. And if you're a friend of Disotto, go check it out. Yeah, regardless of social media, the Friends of Disotto will make whatever place that is great. True. Adam, our next priority one message is of make whatever place that is great. True.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Adam our next priority one message is of a personal nature it goes like this. I love TGG 458 Poopsombrero because my day job involves using Poopsombreros to collect feces and trials of vaccines to prevent diarrhea and kids in impoverished countries. Wow! Also, fecal microbiota transplants are usually delivered through nasogastric tubes, not supositories. Huh! Pills coming soon.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Oh! Shout out to loyal FOD's Dr. J.A.E. and Mrs. AEW. That's from Dr. E-Bob to us. What a message. Yeah, I learned so much about poo. You know, friends of Disoto do Miriam things professionally. We know that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:50 But our first poop doctor has written in, I love this. And what a noble cause, I mean, this is a massive public health improvement that it sounds like Dr. Ebobs is working on. Yeah, Dr. Ebobs doing great work, but also hasn't cured me. Yeah, give Adam the jab. Great job, Dr. E-Bob. Ben, our final prior to in messages from Defested AKA Jake,
Starting point is 01:11:19 messages to Les Monica, Rizzo, Adam. That guy I didn't recognize in the lobby of the hotel. Hey! And all SFFODs everywhere. How interesting we're getting a message... ...from Defested... ...when we were just talking about San Francisco Sketchfest. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Here's that message. Y'all are awesome and the show was outstanding. It was an honor to see both the first and the last shows of the tour. Whoa! That's amazing. And now I have a fun story of offering Ben's parents some isolinear chips without realizing who they were. They very politely decline.
Starting point is 01:11:54 That's amazing, Defested. It was so much fun to see Defested out in the crowd. As often as we did, always welcome site at a live greatest trend show. I think Defested probably has the record for seeing the most double dumbass tour shows of anyone, right?
Starting point is 01:12:14 Yeah. That was a great show. I think my favorite of our presentations of that show. And if you're a supporter of the greatest generation, you can listen to it in the bonus feed, right? That's the one that we released in the Boko feed. That's right. Bonus feed access is only $5 a month and supporting us in that way not only gets you that episode, but hundreds and hundreds of others. It's a great value.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Also a great value is getting a priority on message on the show. It's a hundred bucks for a personal message and 200 for a commercial message, and we start appreciate it. I already won this, it. Go ahead and get the toilet! I do it! Hey, Ben, what's that, Adam?
Starting point is 01:12:56 Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? I'm a drunk Shimoda! I did. The moment where Captain Braxton shouts no one seven brings up the temporal prime directive. You're from another town. Yes. No. We sent you. When he realizes that the game is not going his way when they're stuck listening to what she's doing and can't transmit code back to her because of the level 10 force fields, maybe laugh out loud.
Starting point is 01:13:26 I don't think Bruce McGill gets enough credit for how funny he is as an actor. Oh, I give him enough credit. I think he's hilarious. I think he's so funny. And, but he just thought, he like, doesn't get casted that many like really funny roles. I feel that's fair.
Starting point is 01:13:42 He castes a straight man. And I think that he's really funny in this role. So he's my drink, Sramata. How about you? I mean, I was just going to give it to Bruce McGill as just a welcome site in a Star Trek episode. Like I don't have a a greater reason behind it. I don't have support for that decision the way you do. I just love seeing a Bruce McGill. I mean, I'm just flipping through his credits. My God. What a career.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Amazing. So he's gonna be my drunk Shemota. Great Shemota Adam, I couldn't agree more. Why don't we move on to next week's episode. I'll tell you a little bit about it. It's season five episode 24, War Head. An alien missile with artificial intelligence takes over the doctor's systems and insists that it be allowed to complete its mission of mass destruction.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Whoa. Does it feel like the stakes have become very high over the last few episode, De Voyager? Yeah, I guess they're pretty high. Yeah. That's destruction tends to rate. Yeah. Alright, I'm going over to the game of buttholes. The will of the caretaker. Or currently, boy, I gotta scroll a bunch of times to get down to where our runabout is. Square 19.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Square it lives. Scroll a bunch of times to get down to where our runabout is. Square 19. Hahaha. Square it lives. Looks like we got a couple squares ahead. His eyes uncovered. Couple squares beyond that. A banger. You're required to learn as you play. Roll.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Okay. ROLL Would you believe I rolled a six? Shula! Did I win? Hardly. Wow. I hopped the banger. Would you believe I rolled a six? Who la? Did I win? Wow. I hopped the banger. We're on square 25.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Okay. We're on the third row. It's a regular roll episode. That's great news. Clear squares ahead for the moment. Mm-hmm. Aside from that naked now that we could hit next time. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Yeah. I could really see that happening. Aside from that naked now that we could hit next time. Fuck you. Yeah, I could really see that happening. Mm-hmm. Don't want to. Well. No one wants to. Fortunately next time it's just a regular old app. Looking forward to it.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Looking forward to seeing all the funny stuff posted by Friends of Disodo. Maybe on FriendsOfDisoto.social or on drunkshamotor.com, the Discord group or on the Reddit sub or on Facebook. There's lots of great places to be fun on social media with this show, use the hashtag GreatestGen and follow at GreatestTrack on all those social medias. Yeah, those accounts are run by the great Bill Tilly, our card daddy. Hey, where can I find the TikTok? Because you were so great at the TikTok during the Max Fundra. Oh, we have a greatest trek TikTok, but I don't think anything's been posted to it.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Now? I'm just at Benjamin A.H.R. on TikTok. Oh, that was you doing that? Yeah, it was just my personal TikTok account. Oh! OK, yeah, follow Benjamin A.H.R. on Tick-tock. Yeah, maybe I'll post something else. Doon-no-yes.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Maybe I'll try one of those dances that the kids are into. Hey, Dark Materia did the music you're hearing right now, but Adam Magusia did our theme and interstitial music and continues to make great themes for us. Can't wait to see what he whips up next. He's great. He does a YouTube cooking channel and a great podcast that we really recommend. We gotta think Wendy Priti the producer and editor of this show without whom this thing would just be a shambolic disaster. Yeah. With that, we will be back at you next time. With a great episode, Star Trek Voyager,
Starting point is 01:17:30 and an episode of the greatest generation Voyager, it's giving head. Generous lover. That's the next episode of Star Trek Voyager. That's great. Make it so. Make it so. Make it so. Make it so. Make it so. Make it so.
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Starting point is 01:18:04 Make it so. Make it so. Make it so. Make it so. That was backwards. What the fuck are you doing? That was time travel, Ben. Time travel. Alright, let's do it right. Let's give her a good clap. Three, two, one. Maximumfund.org.
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