The Greatest Generation - The Flattest Pyramid in the Universe (VOY S7E1)
Episode Date: November 20, 2023When the Borgified dustbuster club infects the beef cube’s central plexus, the Queen starts losing track of Zeros and counters with an ultimatum to force them back. But when Captain Janeway orders t...he garden center shut down for good, it keeps the resistance movement alive but kills any hope for Seven and Axum. Were there better cliffs to hang from over the summer break? Who thought he could get away with hearting a boob picture? What’s a sure sign of desperation on Voyager’s bridge? It’s the episode that gets that special Darmoky treatment!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Friends of DeSoto for Labor.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on YouTube.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!Get a thing at podshop.biz!
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Where we left FODs last, we were hanging off of a cliff.
Oh yeah, we were, we were cliff kids just like the FODs this time.
I want to talk to you about as cliff-scow. Oh yeah, we were we were cliff kids just like the FOD's this time. I
Want to talk to you about as cliff-scow
How this one felt compared to the others. I think the easiest comparison is best of both worlds
Definitely trading on the the best of both worlds vibes
If you had to endure an entire summer with the last thing you ever saw was like Janeway, Borgified.
Do you feel like it's more or less shocking given what Picard went through?
Like, do you think it went against the shock doing this again to a beloved captain?
Yes. And I think when you saw a Borg Picard, it was so scary.
And Janeway looked so silly at the end of the last episode that it undercut itself two
different ways. It was like, it felt warmed over, but also like not, it's like, oh, like,
yeah, we're going to do this again and execute it less well.
It is with that kind of feeling I went into this episode, you know?
Yeah. Like, there's every opportunity to make this scary.
And in some ways, gross. The way being on a board ship would be gross.
Yeah.
But many times, they just chose against those possibilities.
Wouldn't you say?
I think they go harder at the beginning of this episode
that they did at the end of the last episode.
Uh huh.
Oh, and we should say this is a special episode.
This is an eyes-uncovered episode.
So we will be peppering, tamarind style, metaphors, all throughout the
episode. Oh yeah. But do you remember that thing? I really don't even know what it was. I only had
the vaguest knowledge that it existed in some way. In the 90s, there was this thing where they would
make parodies of famous movies and all the characters would be like a guy's thumb,
but with like human eyes and mouth,
comped onto it.
Like there was like a star wars with thumbs.
I feel like there was like thumb
of a bunch of different stuff.
Is that the Quiz-nose thing?
Like the Quiz-nose commercial thing?
I don't know the Quiznos commercial thing.
Okay. Yeah, I might not be picking up what you're putting down.
Oh, you didn't see thumb wars.
I sure didn't.
Yeah, so it debuted on UPN,
which might be why I was aware of it,
because I was probably watching UPN
so that I could watch them Star Trek,
and they had a commercial for this thumb thing.
Uh-huh.
Anyways, I just thought the Janeway looked a bit like one of those thumbs at the end of
the last episode.
I think anytime you're compared to an appendage in appearance, I don't think that's ever
a compliment, right?
Like, if you're a toe-headed boy, that's not a compliment. If you're
Thumbelina
It's not good either. Man look up thumb wars by the way
These images so upsetting. Oh
God I
Don't like this at all.
Thumbs shouldn't have hair.
You know what seems so obvious, but also so troubling is like to shoot a movie like Thumb
Wars.
You need to put all your hands together for hours and hours at a time.
Oh yeah.
On a hot set.
Feeling the warmth of other people's hands.
Yeah, I don't like that.
Well, your thumb is wrapped in like a linen costume
to make it look like Luke Skywalker or whatever.
Yeah, I don't like it.
Don't like it at all.
Oh, man, the death star.
He's the thing to say, this ain't thumb wars,
where those aren't thumbs. He's gonna say this ain't Thumbwars where those aren't Thumbs.
It's just Thumbs going in.
One of the most beloved types of greatest gen episodes is today, Ben.
That his eyes uncovered square.
Like a lot of people were looking forward to this one.
Yeah.
What do you say we give the first episode of the final season of Star Trek Voyager,
that special treatment?
That special Darmaki treatment. Yeah, let's do it. It's season 7, episode 1,
Unimatrix, zero part 2.
Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo tubes, I'm not turning around.
After the reel to catch us up on where we've been over the summer, we're back in that armored Borgs cube with our newly, our freshly assimilated Tuvac. I was calling it the beef cube
in my, in my notes, because it's all beefed up. Oh, I was thinking as in a bullion.
Yeah, that's kind of what it evokes
when I look at it on the page now,
but then I was thinking if it is like, you know,
like a, like a bronzoan arm, you know?
I gotta get a pump.
The big surprise revealed here that they saved for part two
is that Tuvac and team are aware. They
aren't assimilated assimilated. They're like wearing the clothing of the
assimilated. Yeah, and this just pisses the BQ off because she's like my
culture is not your costume. Yeah. Pretty ugly what they find appealing. I think that this would have been an
interesting cliff to hang us off of. Like when low-tovas starts walking around and meets up with
BLT and reveals that like they're in, that's exciting. Leave us there. Interesting call. Yeah, move your slider forward 30 seconds and then hang us off the cliff.
So we find out that at least two Valken BLT are okay, but where's Janeway?
They got separated.
The end of our cold open really evokes Picard when his eyeball was penetrated.
Because the Borgs are ramming something right into Janeway's temple.
This just feels dishonest, like unnecessarily dishonest.
Like we've got a two-vac and a BLT, like conspiring.
They're not all the way Borgs.
They're worried about their captain, and when we cut over to her, it seems like she's in bad shape and getting in worse shape.
You see this thing go all the way in, all the way into her skull. How is she okay from this?
And then they pulled it out and then they put it in again.
Yeah.
It's so deep, it almost put her brain to sleep.
And after the theme, we're left to contemplate
this with the Voyager crew, we're on the bridge, and they are really sweating out how long
it's taken to hear anything from their way team.
17 minutes.
Yeah.
The longest, turbo lift ride of my life.
The EMH is like monitoring them. He can tell that their higher brain functions are working
just fine, and the Voyager is like shadowing the beef cube. Yeah. I like the name beef cube. It's feeling
good. Over in the Aslaib 7 tells Chico Tay that the cube is damaged, but like all Borg's
cubes, it's going to fix itself with enough time. And then once it goes to trans warp,
that baby's gone in just a couple hours.
Gone baby gone.
So he orders her back to sleep.
That means going to the dream world of Unimetric Zero.
And she resists this a little bit.
Like, Chico De picks up that she's having some issues
with her fellow Unim matrix zeroians.
And I guess it's just because she doesn't wanna do it
with that one guy.
I think it's weird how much everyone knows
about sevens, very specific deal.
Even though none of these people have been there,
like Chico Tei hasn't been Unim matrix zero, right?
Right, yeah. What the fuck is he talking about? He's like, has he tried building you a
tub? Is that what ruined it? Do not let this guy build you a tub.
Chico Tay, his tub dusty and neglected.
It's a weird feeling because like it's a bit like somebody waking up with Amnesia and like being told like,
Yeah, we fucked all the time before you had Amnesia, so we should just get back to it.
It's like sort of what Axum has been pitching
Seven, so I guess I can understand her hesitancy there.
Right, but like the the lesson of every
Movie and television show that uses that storyline is that like consent is in the
moment. It is not like granted the one time and then that's what you get forever and
always like I would say like one of the main misses of this entire episode is how unmotivated
seven is on either side of that argument. When throughout the last episode and up to most
of this episode, she's not down. And then she suddenly is down, neither seems motivated.
I don't quite understand her deal. Yeah. Like what changed her heart on this? Yeah.
Missed me as well. I mean, if there was ever a chance for Chicoete to like, redeem himself in season seven, I mean, this could have been that moment where he's like,
look, I know it's hard trying to find love out here so far away.
Maybe you fall for the wrong person.
Yeah.
Maybe you've already fallen for that person.
You're trying to pick up the pieces like, this is all backstory that Chicoete kind of has.
Yeah. He knows from unrequited. Sure does, but it doesn't go there. Seven just gets on her
charging that and goes into the night time, foresty, Unimag-zero, where a herogen guy is talking to Korak the Klingon and they're coordinating defense.
Axum is nowhere to be found at this point.
It sounds like he's been missing for quite a while.
And a lot of people have gone missing as the BQ has rooted out her enemies and eliminated
their living birdies.
What do you make of the idea that these folks can appear in Unimetric Zero,
you know, with their choice of costume and hairstyle and so forth.
And yet, as far as defenses go, all they're left with is like sticks and like sticks
and stone weapons, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
That's not gonna break Borg's bones.
The Klingon does not seem to have his batlet at this point.
Did he like lose it?
No, and it made me wonder if like
through the power of your imagination
could you uparm or yourself in the situation?
It just seems so fruitless.
Like you see like these snares set up
and these like janky ass walls made of twigs. Like, what is that supposed to do? I don't
know.
Keroch is like, this is two scenes in a row where people really know it all about Sevens
Deal. Right. And they're very free with giving giving advice the inner fight she must battle is with her heart
some advice from a warrior in the bed chamber as well as a battle field is this a magical cling on trope
situation here
uh that's an that's an ugly accusation i know yeah I don't know maybe. Kind of seems like it. How many romcoms have had the Klingon best friend that
never in front of the camera? I know. So they meet a guy and
he's just materialized, which means he's just fallen asleep wherever he is in the collective.
And they're like, hey, so do you remember like what ship you're on?
in the collective and they're like, hey, so do you remember it like what ship you're on? Or anything? And he's like, no, the virus isn't working yet. Anthony Fauci in February of 2020.
This guy just exit stage right. He probably want a contest, right? This guy definitely seems
like a contest winner. In the beef cube, two Valk and BLT are going around together and they
are looking for the central plexus, the thing that they need to go to to upload the virus
into the broader collective. And they watch a couple of drones go through the force fields,
it's like a heavily shielded area of the ship, but because they're drones in good standing, they can just walk right through it.
As far as creative decisions go,
I wanna ask you what you would do here.
If you were directing these actors,
would you direct them into acting
a little more Borgs'es here?
It sounds like I'm really coming out
against this episode out of the block,
and I swear I'm not trying to do that, but
like God they aren't even trying to act boring.
And I know to a certain extent it doesn't matter because they aren't supposed to pay attention to you until you fuck with them.
But like I wish there was a little bit of code switch like they give BLT a little bit of that with the vocal
modulation thing and I really loved it. I think that's part of why I want a little more of that.
American tourists when they go to Paris,
two-vac and BLT, really stand out.
Yeah.
They're not really trying to fake the funk.
I guess they're just relying on the fact
that their skin is all gray and creepy looking
and they're covered in all that crap to sell the bit,
but...
They've got so much shit on them.
It's too much fucking shit on me, I can't breathe.
It's kind of hard to think of that anything else.
They come to a control area in the central Plexus region of the ship and some guy is there
and they're going to have to get past them and two voks like I'll take care of him.
And he turns around and he's a she yeah riddle
me this bad man how is that possible they've got the implants of some young guy because So BLT and the captain start getting on opening the next door and Tuvac has a little episode here.
This seems like a bad sign when the one you would assume has the greatest mental defenses
starts to weaken here. He's hearing the voices of the collective.
And that means that the neurosepresent
that they're all depending on is wearing off.
But he's, I think, throughout the episode,
the only one for whom that happens, right?
Yeah, I wonder if maybe his Vulcan neurophysiology
just made his brain
chew the suppressive up and spit it out faster or something.
I wish they'd given a little bit of dialogue
to what might be going on here.
But yeah, he seems to be the only one
that's ever suffering from this.
And like the board queen detects him on the network
and fits and starts, so she knows something is up here.
This is like, TuVac accidentally likes
a boob picture on Instagram, but like,
all TuVac was doing was swiping.
Like, oh God, like people were gonna see that I like this.
So he tries to un-hard it,
but it's too late.
The queen notices that he's hard at her.
If I know queens, they're gonna notice
when you heart a boob picture on Instagram.
Yeah, that's how it goes.
I have to say the additional stuff
that they put on Janeway in her final form as a Borgs
is much better than what we saw at the end of the last episode.
Like the stuff that they clamp onto her in the beginning of this one actually like kind of takes
it past the whatever line that is and she's out of the uncanny Borg Valley.
I think in addition to being better than the last episode, it's also better than Tuva can BLT.
I think part of what happens to Tuvaac invites a very close-up camera.
Like you're in very close-up compositions to him
while he's working out what's going on mentally.
And I don't know how many of these shows you watch
like the Is It Cake show
where the host is like dropping knives through igloo coolers
and telephones and stuff
and maybe some of them are
cake and some of them aren't.
But I thought Tuvaq looked like cake in a way that did not serve his Borg's character.
His Tuvaq cake.
It's a question not enough people are asking.
I know.
I just wanted to stab a knife through the side of his head many times this episode.
That's not a cake!
We cut back to Unimetric Zero and a bunch of cranky-looking drones are walking around in
the forest, but one of them trips on something and it's very the sheriff's deputies when
they drew first blood on John Rambo.
Don't push it out, give your you a war, you'll believe.
This guy's such a fucking dumbass.
He can't even see the log trap.
Yeah.
What do you suppose your little laser, I think, is for
if you can't see the log trap?
The tripwires made out of thick vines.
That even concertina.
Is this what the federation should have been doing
to resist the borks the whole time?
Like go to a log and vine style defense.
They can't adapt to that.
They go to the armory and they've got like rows of dustbusters
and then rows of rifles and then just rows of logs.
Yeah.
You don't just throw something like this away.
No, sir!
They load up giant logs in the photon torpedo bay.
Ha, ha, ha, thunk.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
That's going right through a shield.
They shoot at like three times, and then the fourth time,
it goes through the cube, but then just like sawdust comes out the other side,
and they go, they've adapted. I mean, you know the Borgs have assimilated a bunch of folks
with a bunch of knowledge about all sorts of things, but what I think is maybe they've never assimilated anyone who would have seen
these movies.
Borgs!
Without a basic cable subscription.
One of the people that gets caught in one of these traps is Seven of Nine, or Anika,
I guess she goes by in this reality, and it is Axum that comes and cuts her down.
What a nice guy.
Release me.
Easier said than done.
She was looking for him because a carock was worried and not her. She's very specific
about that. I wasn't looking for you so much as I was looking for you for carock.
Yeah. He told me to go find where you were. That's why I'm here.
This continues on that tension that isn't so much will they or won't they?
And it's more like they already have, but will they again?
Mm-hmm.
Axum seems more confident than ever that they will again, which seems like kind of a turn for him.
That whole first part of this episode,
he seemed pretty bummed.
Do you think that maybe like off screen at some point, act some, sat down with Korak and
he's like, I just don't know what to do. Like, I really want to get back with her, but
like, she seems really resistant and Korak was like, like, you just got to act confident, man.
Chicks dig that.
Cause he's the Killing On Best friend, you know.
He's like trying to help them hook up together.
Whatever happens, you will not remember the bad times.
Only the good
So back on the beef cube two back at this point
Has the queen like sliding into his DMs all the time
This is the trouble with dropping that heart. Yeah, this is how it starts. Oof
Yeah, it's like kind of like the English is like we're weird enough that you're like this is probably someone like in Russia or Moldova or somebody on the other end of this.
Borg Queens is already asking for nudes.
Poor Tuvac is thinking about baseball so he won't fully assimilate.
He looks like he's in some trouble.
Janeway orders him not to be.
Stay focused.
Stay to Valk.
That's an order.
BLT gets this door open and in they go.
And they're in a very different feeling environment
to any other board cube interior we've ever seen.
Because it has a vanity mirror in it?
Yeah, it's like, I mean, it's almost like a hall of mirrors, right?
It's like, it feels like interior of a carnival fun house
in a weird way.
I feel like Tuvac seeing his reflection
does give him the resolve not to reply to the BQ in his DMs.
I had an unusual experience watching the scene him the resolve not to reply to the BQ in his DMs.
I had an unusual experience watching the scene having not seen any Star Trek really pass this
and only seeing Star Trek Picard after this
because I thought the central plexus
that they were going to was that room
that seven entered on that other Borg's cube
and Star Trek Picard and then jacked herself in.
Yeah.
So I was really like looking around,
making sure a Borgs queen wouldn't drop in
out of somewhere because like this felt like
that kind of chamber in the ship.
But I didn't have anything like that to worry about.
They just took a panel off of a thing.
Yeah.
And that's where they deploy the virus.
Tom Silva, when he dug out the window cell planter
at that one house in Detroit.
Ha.
Ha.
What we got here in the corner is rot.
Ha.
Ha.
Ha.
So much rot.
Ha.
Ha.
I think a HATES when a building has an account
for water flow.
I know. Nothing he hates more. Back on Voyager. I think I hate when a building has an account for water flow.
I know.
Nothing he hates more.
Back on Voyager.
Look at him.
Look at him.
Chico Tez, the captain now.
And he's like all the way up in the ready room.
Like he's made himself at home there when Paris walks in.
Nobody had to tell him that's his chair, you know?
Yeah.
He knew. I think that might be a, you know. Yeah. He knew.
I think that might be a make-quise thing.
Make-quise?
Ha-ha-ha.
Pears is in their worried about the now two and a half hours
that have gone by without hearing from the Dustbuster Club
when the doctor only recommended two.
If a doctor says something is only supposed to last two hours
max, it's kind of an emergency situation
if it's more than that.
How long?
A day?
A week?
I lasted 22 minutes.
Paris, sort of giving I miss my girlfriend in this scene,
but also...
No one believes that.
Yeah, and also like maybe a little bit big
for his bridges now that he got his half a pit back,
because he's like, I've just done some back of the envelope math.
And now that I'm the first officer of the ship,
it is my duty to opine about that booty.
And my opinion is we need to get them the fuck out of there.
Did you feel a little bit of those vibes of Reiker being on the poch? Like maybe because this is
a a make-wee's commanded ship, Paris Concentre in there, and maybe grab and bite all the pells,
give them a little bit of a shaken. If Paris wants to be the captain, all he needs to do is
pummel Tricote until he's completely covered in Pepto Bismal.
Yeah, this opinion is not solicited at all.
And when Chicoete says no,
they both stand up and do that face-to-face thing.
A first officer could get in a lot of trouble
for talking to his captain that way.
Well, I've learned from the best.
I really like this moment,
because it's kind of a dynamic that has happened between
Chicoote and Janeway a few times over the course of the series where it's like, I really
need you to like not undermine me here. I need you to be like a thousand percent team
the ship on this one. And I think Paris takes that note a little bit more easily than Chicote has traditionally.
What do you understand the cruise knowledge of Chicote's crush to be? Because this sort of felt
like a girlfriend measuring contest. Like, Paris walks in there and he's like, that's my girlfriend
out there. You got a saver. And Chico Tate to not betray at all,
that yeah, you know, I've got a special lady out there myself
that I'm also pretty bummed about.
Like, that's not a part of the subtext here at all, is it?
No, I don't think it is.
Yeah, I think they're really writing toward that.
I think that's too bad.
Yeah. Yeah, I think they're really writing toward that. I think that's too bad. Yeah
Because at this moment in time in Star Trek Voyager to Kote his bathtub's destroyed
The virus has been inserted into the central plexus
and the EMH lets them know about that.
He can, I guess, tell from what's going on
inside two-vox brain guts.
Or is it just that he's noticing
that the board queen is sliding into the DMs a lot
and two-vox brain guts?
It's so hard to know, right?
Yeah. Anyways, they gotta to go catch up to the
beef cube and it sort of seems like it may be too late for two-box because he starts speaking
with the voice of the BQ and then like tons of borg's drones start chasing the captain and VLT.
It's been long enough that the shields are back up all over the ship,
especially in the central plexus, so they can't just beam everyone back out.
Tired because there's so many drones and so few on the Dustbusters Club. I mean, they're
surrounded pretty fast. And when they lose two Vock here to the voices, I mean, he's physically
in the way. The way they surround Janeway in the end
kind of feels like a bunch of schoolyard bullies
like Grog hanging up on her.
Yeah, yeah.
It's maybe the scariest moment of either episode
is when two Valk turns.
Yeah.
I feel like that could also be a good halfway mark.
I mean, I know that we're like halfway into this episode now, but I feel like that could also be a good halfway mark. I mean, I know that we're halfway into this episode now,
but I feel like they had other better options
for where to put the cliff.
Two Vox affected speech anyway, as a falcon,
is I feel like very close to what Borg speak is anyway.
It's a little less jarring when he fully turns, right?
Yeah.
So this is revealed to the queen
that everything is going down on the beef cube.
And so the beef cube starts shooting voyager
and fucking should up.
Why are there shields down?
Like this is a major emergency.
Like you do not want to be around the beef cube with your shields down,
and that's because someone threw
an entire shoe store at Voyager
before the Borgs fires at them.
Yeah.
Hence the word,
sabokosh.
And it's at this point like
knowing that they have no shields
to co-tae orders the ship around.
And we know at this point that the Borgs
have their access codes thanks to Tuvac.
You know it would have been great. How about changing those codes before the
Despester Club goes over on this mission?
They should have changed the codes. That is low hanging fruit, security wise.
I think you've got to know what the dangers are. And that is maybe the most obvious is
all of the life experience of all of these three crew people could be compromised.
You got to change the code.
Yeah.
Chicoete, his bathtub's used by someone else.
But then we cut back to the queen and she is very scared because she starts to feel all of her thousands of drones that have the
Unimatrix virus slip away. The virus is working. This is great, right? Anthony Fauci in March of 2020.
One of them is right there in the room with her. I love when this guy makes a lunge for her
and just like box his head on her force field.
Yeah, just see that coming, right, man?
Yeah, pretty dumb.
Yeah.
Do you feel like, I think this is true, right?
Most borks are pretty dumb.
Yeah, they're not assimilating for the intellectual
elites of society.
They're just scraping people up off of the surface of planets.
They're just taking what they can get.
Janeway, under arrest, gets put on a charging mat surrounded by a force field and scanned.
She materializes as a hollow in the Queen's Chamber.
That like phone booth thing that she was standing in
really reminded me of the thing on the entrepreneur
that they had Q and...
Oh yeah, back in the day.
Yeah, good call.
It didn't look, it looked more federation-y
in design than Borgie to me.
I guess that's what I'm trying to say.
Mm-hmm.
We've reviewed season one of Star Trek
Prodigy over on our hit Star Trek podcast,
greatest track.
Did you know that hologram Janeway was invented
right here on Star Trek Voyager?
That is amazing.
It's really you.
I mean, me.
I did not consider that.
Yeah. The Queen starts doing her,
this is all your fault, routine.
Like the dead drone is there
and she blames his death on Janeway.
Starts, you know, making a pitch
that Janeway needs to help the board queen
defeat Unimetric Zero
or it's gonna be real bad for her.
Some elegant cutting here back and forth from original flavor, Jane way to Jane way
Borg's and back and forth in this scene, right?
Yeah, I liked it a lot.
Interesting the way like her physicality changes between those, because she's like, she's real stiff as a drone.
And then Queen starts showing her like cubes and spheres
that she is self-destructing at a thought,
taking out tens of thousands of drones
because you know, two or three,
you know, Matrix zero drones are among them.
And this is like, this is the stakes.
Like Janeway can help or the board queen can keep eliminating them.
Or if Janeway resists,
she's like, I'll just go assimilate Voyager and I'll get the doctor.
And we'll get the information about the virus you uploaded into the collective from him
and reverse engineer it.
Jigsaw's victim, when the trap was set,
Janeway replies that Jakota has orders to erase the doctor
should the Borgs get close to doing that.
We cut over to the doctor who's like breaking the fourth wall.
What?
Why wasn't I told about this?
This is classic hostage taking behavior, right?
Like the queen is shooting hostages here
till she gets what she wants.
Yeah.
I mean, we were told that this is like
cutting off a limb for the Borgs though.
Yeah.
So she's just like chopping thousands
and thousands of fingers off to make her point.
The queen wants Janeway to negotiate on her behalf.
And Janeway is like, why don't you go yourself to Unimetric Zero?
And the queen isn't trying to hear that.
She's very busy with her mass murder.
Yeah.
I mean, this gives a Janeway a good moment of taunting her.
Yeah. What are you afraid of? Thereway a good moment of taunting her.
Yeah. What are you afraid of?
There's coffee in that taste of individuality.
And back on Voyager, seven reports to the bridge,
which is in pretty bad shape, lots of smoke.
And they do a great job with like a handheld camera
that's like swinging back and forth frantically.
It's a very like ER, the television show,
kind of style of camera work
in this scene, which I thought was good to establish what an emergency Voyager was in,
like, in a kind of a new way for this show.
I mean, speaking of metaphor, like the patient is the ship here.
Yeah.
And the ship is not doing well at all.
It's really fucked up.
Chicoate is trying to get the ship back in the fight, but he needs seven to get back to sleep.
It's got to be such a bummer for her. Like, this is a tactically significant situation.
And the best thing she can do is leave the bridge and go back to the Alcove. Yeah.
It's got a succ to here. So the doctor is helping Tucker in.
And I guess, I don't know why he's scanning her, but he's talking to her about the situation
with Axum.
He also knows that Seven and Axum had a thing, I think Picardos performance here is really
great because it really rides the line of like him giving good advice but also betraying
to camera that he is a little bit jealous of Axum.
Yeah, I mean the doctor in Love With Seven was a storyline bell that got wrong many, many times
several seasons ago. There's a good reminder that he still has those feelings clearly but
ago. There's a good reminder that he still has those feelings clearly, but like the needle point says, he loves her enough to let her go. Yeah. He kind of pitches her on like maybe
explore this thing with axon because, you know, you're getting good enough at humaning
here on the ship to maybe start trying that in your real life. Maybe if it seems cool, if he seems like the right one,
maybe go for it.
It's only a dream, you know?
Yeah.
It doesn't matter anyway, right?
So he tucks her and gives her a tender case
on the forehead goodnight.
And she slips off to sleep.
And the doctor, like Chico Te
with a pencil in his fist.
Indeed. Do hollow pencils snap the same way?
Hmm.
I've got to get that.
Luck n' get that.
Oh, better lodgeman.
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A while ago, I gave an aura frame to each of my parents. That would not be selling a heist. God.
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Do you?
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I have nothing.
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And I'm out here sending pictures of these frames
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How do you top that?
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Back in Unimetric Zero, Axum is halfway through a half time speech.
He's telling the group about all the ships that have been self-destructed.
What's their plan going to be?
It's to go to the primary unicomplex where the queen is, like their counterparts on the
ships need to rise up and form a resistance and take that resistance right to the unicomplex.
And seven's like, well, what about the away team?
Can they be rescued?
I know we're thinking big picture here,
but like those three folks are really important to me.
And Keroch does now want to hear any part of this.
It is like, I don't know if you've heard,
but like tens of thousands of us are dying as
the pork's queen lays waste to us.
I think you're three people.
I heard a pretty okay sacrifice.
They fought like warriors.
Their sacrifice will not be forgotten.
It might be a good time to remember the needs of the many concept.
He really does not want to wait for Voyager or help from them, but acts him kind of does.
And when the meeting breaks up, seven thanks, Axum, for kind of writing for her and they
get to talking.
And now that he can remember Unimetric Zero when he wakes up and his life as a borg's when he comes to Unimetric Zero
He has found out that he is on a ship on the opposite side of the galaxy
No, we're near the the middle of the fighting and he feels real bad about that
Axum the Canadian girlfriend
Axum the Canadian girlfriend.
He's like thinking of ways that he could maybe help anyways. And one idea he has is try to invite species for 2069 to join the war. That is some messy shit when your civil war turns into something
where like another country's army is coming in and helping out, right?
Axum, is this your idea of love?
It's a heavy scene because I think they both know that like whatever hope they had for meeting in real life, it's not going to happen too far away.
The mention of fluidic space, though, is enough to get them both pretty cranked up.
And they assimilate those lips. Yeah, speaking of fluidic space though is enough to get them both pretty cranked up and they assimilate those lips.
Yeah, speaking of fluidic space, check out that basement.
What changed exactly to you in the axum-7 relationship?
Nice scene and all, but wasn't exactly clear on why the 187 has here. Is it just the doctor giving her the nudge?
Well, that's what I was going to say, is it people constantly getting up in her business
and suggesting that she go for it?
That doesn't feel right.
That's like taking away her agency.
Yeah.
People just want to picture her doing it.
Yeah. Later on in the daytime,
a couple of kids are crawling around on the ground
in Unimetric Zero.
And one of them crawls right into the queen.
Newt, when that bitch wouldn't get away from her.
I gotta say, the queen is a pretty persuasive advocate for a simulation here.
You like having friends, don't you?
A simulation turns us all into friends.
And there's something about the way she's shot.
Like, it's funny.
She's in a home and garden center set situation.
That is shot with that green gel because she's in it.
And so what really like, as green as everything else is,
she is especially green.
And that catch light is doing so much work in her eyes.
It really makes her look like beautiful and magical
in this moment.
And like for a little kid, I think like really persuasive
and interesting. Because the little kid is I think, like really persuasive
and interesting. Because the little kid is scared of getting assimilated.
He doesn't realize that he's in fact assimilated
and they're in a maturation chamber.
So he's a scared of the whole thing
and she gets still kind of like pitch him
on becoming a board from the board perspective.
What would you think about working and living with your friends and family all the time?
Now you recruit 64,000 drones and then each of them recruit 64,000 drones.
It's what you call downline and I'm at the top of the pyramid and you'd be right under
me.
There is no pyramid though.
It's like the queen and one straight line underneath her.
That's like a billion people long.
The flattest pyramid in the universe.
It's double level marketing.
Yeah.
The idea that being in a hive mind is fun is great.
And I would like to see more about that in particular.
Yeah.
I mean, that's really the Queen's deal
like throughout this episode right up until the end
is like, can we convince these people to come back?
Yeah.
She's never had to ask before.
That's tough.
That's tough when you turn that corner.
Hmm.
This kid is gonna give away the whole bag though.
Like he takes her to the bluff
where you can look down over the whole bay.
It seems bad.
The queen is a little put off by this.
She's like, isn't this make out point
at Unimetric Zero?
What are you doing?
You're like a kid in love with their teacher.
Yeah, I'm not an age appropriate person
for you to be making out with young man.
You know, we should really like find a shaper owner too
for this moment.
We cut from here right back into the Unicomplex
where the queen is fresh from this mission.
She reports back to Janeway
about what she's experienced there.
The big takeaway, not impressed.
It's like an all-inclusive resort,
but when you think about it,
if the food and bev that's included,
isn't that great?
Is it really that good of a deal to begin with?
Yeah, I guess not.
She's seen their end of predator traps.
She's seen their Rambo traps.
She doesn't see it as that good.
What she is impressed by is something that she shows
hologram Janeway, which is the reverse engineered
nanovirus, which has now been tweaked
to specifically target the drones
that have been going to Unimetric Zero.
So she can kind of genocide all of the people that she has enemies.
But there's a catch and Janeway points this out, which is that they are now separated from
the hive mind. So they're air-gapped. You can't upload the virus to them.
Right. And the queen is like, well, that's cool. I'll just go to Unimetric Zero and release it
myself. Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah.
I'll go find another couple of kids to show me around.
They love me.
Or Janeway can go and get them to rejoin willingly.
So the board queen is saying, I will kill them
or you can get them to rejoin the collective.
Those are the two options.
You think that's never gonna happen
until we cut over to Voyager,
where a lot of the systems are back online.
They got warp drive sensors, weps.
We gotta have weps, he's the key.
But like one aspect to this scene
that I think really demonstrates how desperate they are
is we've got Nelix at a bridge station.
And I just don't know how you're gonna fight
any sort of battle with that guy on your bridge, right?
Yeah, he's in the Tasha Yara, seven of nine position.
Yeah.
One of our more interesting missions.
The doc tells Chicoete that the Borgs
are sending a hollow signal over.
And if you wanna watch it,
you gotta come over to Six Bay to watch it.
And there's Hollow Janeway.
Yeah, right there in Six Bay.
This is the reason why the queen preserved her appearance for this moment, right?
Cause I got to believe if they hollow projected Borg's Janeway, this conversation would have gone a lot differently, right? Oh, yeah.
Chico Te would have whipped out his phaser and smoked a hole in the bio bed behind her.
Chico Te rounds the corner and is confronted with
Borg's Janeway and Janeway's like, did it move?
Did it move when you saw me?
Chicoate, is this your idea of sex?
I can't get in a bathtub with all this stuff.
Half of it is very sensitive electronic equipment.
Weird scene because
Kate Mulgrugh plays it so down the middle, like very matter effect.
Look, this mission is, you know it, is over.
We got to make sure that innocent
borgs don't get killed anymore.
I'm ordering you.
Stop the mission.
We got to prepare these free drones for re-assemblation
so that this virus isn't released into Unimetric Zero.
At least they'll survive as drones, says Janeway.
Yuck.
What kind of life is that?
That's terrible.
I really like the, have I made myself clear commander?
Because that's like the only hint that you get at the subterfuge that's going on here.
Yeah.
And like the doctor doesn't pick up on it.
Like nobody but Chico Tay picks up on it.
Seven of nine is like, you're just going to go along with this?
That's the, oh, I'm so clumsy moment of this episode, right?
Whenever a commanding officer says that, you know something's a little off.
Yeah, yeah, he read between the pips.
There are three things to remember about the instantiochic cat.
It's a true, it's a true, sure, detective.
Go down with the ship and do it, do it, do it, do it.
What Janeway was really saying is, since Unimetric Zero could no longer exist,
we just have to end Unimetric Zero.
That's at this point the only vulnerability
that these drones have to the virus that the Queen has made.
At this point in the episode, things move really fast.
Yeah.
I would argue maybe even too fast
because at this moment in time, I was like, well, what
do we have available to us on Voyager?
I mean, we've got hollow matrices, you got a hollow deck.
I was thinking at this point, were they going to host you in a matrix zero?
Oh, man.
Like, my imagination really went into some crazy places.
But you barely get any time to think about this
because a banger gets dropped and out from a transwarp conduit comes a sphere. And you think maybe
Voyager has been caught with its pants down, but no, it's general Korak on screen,
Captain of this sphere and he's ready to fight as allies.
Gandalf, when he showed up with the rest of the roherum on that hill.
That's it exactly.
He's like, yeah, let's do this baby.
And he looks awesome as hell.
He really does.
We've seen so few Borg's Klingons, but they're just my favorite kind of Borgs.
Do you think that first episode with the borg's children struggling to control their
own ship? Did anything to dissuade you about our newly freed borgs being able to do that?
Or did that read into your viewing at all?
That didn't bother me because I figured that a big part of what they were struggling with was just not being fully matured
and therefore not knowing things that a drone would know.
I didn't totally get how Korak had like liberated
an entire ship though.
Right.
I mean, maybe he's just a great leader.
Is that the effect of the virus or something?
I think the virus just spreads and spreads.
Yeah, I guess it must be.
We cut over to the Aslab where Seven is kind of working on something.
Something I couldn't really figure out at this point.
But then when we cut over to Korakshipp,
we see that very same graphic playing on his screen.
Yeah.
This is the frequency that the signal for Unimetric Zero broadcasts on.
And if you remember, the frequency that the board queen had a terrible time figuring out
what it was in the last episode, but 7 of 9 figures it out really quickly.
Yeah.
Sounds great.
We see the sphere and Voyager roll up on the beef cube and they both have really glowy
parts.
Yeah, they look awesome.
They start licking shots and the people in Unimetric Zero start getting ready for their
fight and the, I guess it's the deflector array on the Voyager and then something similar
on the sphere and it starts to sort of dissolve Unimagery Xero.
So you see everybody in Unimagery Xero start to disappear and Axum seems like he's the
only one left.
Please Axum don't hurt him.
So that was thinking.
He's like the last to leave a sinking ship.
Yeah. He's the captain of Unimetric Zero, I guess.
Yeah.
So Janeway explains to the Queen just how her downfall is taking place now.
Watch your futures end.
And the sphere and voager attacked the beef cube.
This is when we finally catch up with BLT.
We really haven't seen much of for this whole episode,
but she is slinking around the beef cube.
She's throwing shoes all over the place.
She's doing great.
The machines, when the wooden shoes got in the gears.
Hence the word sabotage.
There's like a tipping point here,
where all of BLTQDIS's work starts to pay off, right?
Yeah, but Axum is still in Unimetric Zero,
and so Anika has to run back in and meet up with him.
No time to fuck.
They're on that hillside looking at the all-inclusive resort below just on fire, everything's on fire.
She's got regrets about how she spent their last days.
She regrets not coming around to the idea of an axiom-7 relationship until now.
And they don't really have a lot of time to litigate this.
Yeah. relationship until now and they don't really have a lot of time to litigate this. Yeah, he promises to find her, but I think neither of them really buy that.
Slightly less convincing than the Daniel Day Lewis stay alive.
I will find you from last at the Mohicans.
It's not quite as charged as that.
Yeah, yeah.
Just like, maybe you should just try to get something going with Species 42069.
I don't think a long distance thing is for me.
Maybe they can satisfy you.
Finally, the Queen orders the beef cube to self-destruct.
And the Death Spuster Club is being back just in time.
And James Franco at the end of 127 hours.
How much more of this moment did you want? This is another part that compares with best to both worlds in an interesting way.
Like one of the most affecting parts of best to both worlds is when you get
look cutus off of the board ship and back back onto the Enterprise and how awful it looks. Like, he looks at home
on the Borg's queue, but once he's back on the Enterprise, like, the feeling is so gross when he
returns in an effective way. I wanted more than a second on the Transporter pad with the three main
characters of this show. Like, I wanted them to limp to six bay.
I wanted to feel bad for them.
For this moment, but we cut out here so fast,
and into a passage of time into six bay,
like you don't really get any time to feel.
And Janeway is the only one that's up,
and she seems like the most unfazed.
Like, she's complaining about being in discomfort,
but they didn't do that like,
like when they are unborgzing Picard, there's like a couple of phases of the makeup that they went
through. Like there's like mid-borgs and mostly deborgs, but kind of geometric scarring, and then like
finally like totally unborgced. And she just looks like she's got like a little bit
of gray bruising around her temples, you know?
It'll be a while before I'm playing hoverball again.
I mean, even more than the physical trauma,
like the emotional trauma is totally gone from this moment.
Like, the borax haunt you, the experience of being assimilated
should haunt you even though, even though none of them had gone all the way, like who knows this better than seven?
And for Janeway to just have like a normal conversation with seven about her boyfriend or whatever.
Yeah.
Didn't love that.
How'd they all get their hair back?
Oh, man, that's a great question.
But the card I made sense. They all get their hair back. Oh, man, that's a great question.
What's the card I made sense?
So much of the doctor's time has spent just waving a light on those scalps.
And then he like tries it on himself and it doesn't work.
And he's like, oh, right, right, hologram.
Yeah.
If there was ever a time when you thought Chicoete would have a chance
with Janeway, remind them of today. Because you got Janeway convalescing here and he's nowhere to
be seen. I understand why like on the page, you need things tied up between seven and Janeway. But God, if there was ever
any hope of a Chico-tee Janeway thing, it would be in this moment, right? And that he's gone. I
think finally just puts the nail in the coffin of whatever future they might have. I felt his absence
utterly here. Did you? I missed him in the scene for sure. Yeah. But I thought
that the little wrap up with Janeway and Seven was really nice and I like the end of this episode,
but I want to know if you liked this episode overall. You know, probably the easy to get along with
most of the time, but I don't like bullets, I don't like friends, and I don't like you.
You're a monster.
It was so hard not to compare it with best of both worlds.
And I think unfortunately, it grades out as less than,
and like every category that matters, you know?
It just felt too clean at the end.
I wanted there to be some trauma for a very traumatic moment.
And like, even on down to seven at the end, she's like, hopeful and Janeway is optimistic
about, you know, carac and the Borg's resistance being future allies.
Like, I don't know.
It's okay not to have an ending that's tied up perfectly.
And I think I just was disappointed
with how neatly this resolved.
Nothing wrong with any of their performances.
The story itself I thought was pretty good and interesting,
but like, my main problem
with any episode I have a problem with is mostly going to have to do with like, did it go
hard enough?
Did it make me feel enough?
And for an episode featuring an enemy that is so able to inflict damage in so many ways,
to just come away so clean at the end. Didn't feel quite right to me.
What about you?
So, Kath, his eyes are uncovered.
Good points at him.
Yeah, I think I agree with a lot of what you're saying.
Overall, I think it's maybe a more impressive episode
if you kinda edit it a little bit differently.
Like, I think that there's something really cool about the kind of self-conscious choice
to make a, like this is the best of both world's Voyager style.
Like this hits so different from the way it hits in TNG and I think that's in large part
because of what a different set of circumstances
the Voyager crew find themselves in. Like the second, an idea came up with Janeway to spark a civil
war within the board continuum. If that had been presented to Picard, he would have had to run it
up the flagpole to command to see if they approve of the plan or whatever, or you know, decided against it and catch
a ton of shade from Shelby later.
But isn't this kind of a retread of the decent two-parter in TNG?
Like there was a faction of rogueborgs.
Yeah.
And they didn't do shit. Well, yeah, they got I mean
they got kind of in the thrall of a cult leader. Yeah. So saying axum doesn't have that kind of charisma.
He's no lore. But yeah, like I think that this episode is very successful in certain aspects of it.
But overall didn't quite hang together for me.
So, yeah, I agree.
It's kind of a mid-start trick for a drag episode
in my opinion.
Well, fortunately, we've got 25 more episodes this season
to redeem season seven, Ben.
I like our chances.
Hey, that's great.
Let's get into it.
But first, let's get into that priority one inbox.
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Drunk Shimoda! Whoever's decision it was not to change the codes.
it was not to change the codes. After the captain of your ship is over there?
Yeah. They were hoping that the head of security on the captain
would be like, I forgot how the codes go. Outrageous.
Like, I really wish that was part of the con. Like, yeah, they're going to think they have
the codes, but they're the wrong codes.
Like, to use that against them,
I think would have made some sense.
But this is all knowledge Starfleet has had since LeCutus.
Yeah, whoever was responsible for that,
let's, it's Janeway, right?
Who else should know?
Who else would know?
The buck stops with Janeway,
but two blocks should have made a note before he left, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, maybe the buck falls to Chicoetay,
like he's the captain of the ship now,
change the codes, it's within his power to do it.
You tell him, they're not using a password,
saver, it's not a huge involved thing
to change some passwords.
You're just copying and pasting anyway. Right. Come on
That's mine. Who's yours mine is
Neelix just for being a bridge officer all of a sudden I just laughed when we started cutting up to the bridge and it was
Neelix going like I've I've got them on the scanner. It's like what?
Since when the desperation of a neelix on the bridge is such a town setter.
Yeah, yeah.
Why not like that nice, but Jordan lady that's bad at math.
Like put her in the episode again.
You know, why don't you put her in charge?
And let me tell you about next week's episode of Star Trek Voyager.
It's called season seven episode two, imperfection.
A malfunction in seven's cortical node threatens to destroy her.
Does that mean like physically destroy her, like in the like getting her reputation ruined
sense? That's a really fun take. like in the like getting her reputation ruined sense.
That's a really fun take.
Yeah.
The malfunction in her cortical node has her like tossing racial
slurs around a little bit too liberally.
She makes a scene at Nelix's mess hall.
Yeah.
Everyone sees it.
Oh man, come on, seven.
You can't act like that.
She totally brandos up on the recharge mat and the cargo bay and the kids won't let it
go.
Right, but two star fleet officers with juvenile imaginations.
Come on, two VAC.
Ben, I'm over at the game of Bud Holes, the will of the caretaker, where we got to figure
out how we're going to watch the next episode today, a very special, his eyes uncovered episode.
Couple squares ahead, we get a banger.
What does that do?
I think that bangs us back five squares.
Man, memory serves.
Five squares back from a banger is a regular old episode.
I think that's, those are our only options.
You're required to learn as you play... role.
Alright, Ben, I've got the... the die in my hands. Here's the role.
Ben, I've rolled a one!
Shula! Did I win?
Harvey?
Okay.
Put to sound... Square 22 to regular-old episode.
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