The Greatest Generation - The Lightning Bidet Treatment (VOY S4E24)

Episode Date: November 7, 2022

When Voyager runs out of gas in the middle of a road trip, their pit stop at a hostile planet gets them more than just deuterium. But when the ship gets stuck in the swamp of sadness, an unexpected genetic exchange puts them back on the road home. Which dremel do we all worship? What’s the worst way to do chores? Did the Star Trek caves get a promotion? It’s the episode with 100 Thomas Rikers and BLT’s thumb!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!

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to have a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pranica. Adam, I accidentally tried to kick this record. I tried to record the episode we're about to talk about. When we were scheduled to record something entirely other than this, we had a Star Trek Prodigy episode

that we needed to record. And I got into the intro and you just looked at me like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, you prepped for the wrong thing. I prepped for the wrong thing. I'm sure that if that prodigy episode is out by the time this airs on our hit New Star Trek podcast, greatest trek,

it will already be considered legendary. It's true. For us, please. You apologized over and over again, and I told told you don't worry about it. It's like cut it out. I'm right. I feel great. I prepared correctly and came ready to work for once and that was the only way I needed to feel about it. I didn't need your guilt. Yeah. I think I said, I had a bad moment. You did.

You had a bad podcast moment. There's something we like to talk about at the beginning of some of these shows and the how becoming professional, quote unquote, comedy podcasters has ruined us for normal life. It's right. It makes us unfit to be out in the world.

As in, my first story of having a bad bit moment, Ben. Wow, lay it on me, Adam. Bits, bits, bits. No matter what you're always doing. Bits, bits, bits. No matter what you're always doing. Bits, bits, bits. I was doing're always doing. Bits, Bits. I was doing Bits.

Bad bit moment. Bad bit moment. So my dog's broken dog pussy requires medication daily, twice daily, and I was running low and I got to get a refill. They'll only give you a month of this stuff for some reason. They won't give you three months, which I would love. Are you ordering from one of these online pet supply companies? Because we found out that we've been overpaying by like five X

for my dogs daily medication when we switched. Well, I'm going to have to look into that in this case. Because now I'm paying the straight from the vet, like a sucker. Yeah, yeah, you might be paying through the nose, my friend. So I call the dog pharmacist. I'm like, hey, I'm calling to get a refill for my beloved dog Ripley.

Is that something you're able to do? She's like, yeah, you're calling about the phenol propolominin. And I was like, what? And she said, yeah, phenol propolomine. And I said, Proin is the street name, right? And like two seconds goes by. And she does a hold the phone away from her headlap. All that do with it. Bits, it's it. No matter what. This is a good bit, Moment Ben. Wow.

I totally destroyed her. You're always doing bits. Good bit, Moment. Big laps all around. Wow, this never happens. I know. Amazing. I thought I'd surprise you. Wow, this never happens. I know. Amazing. I thought I'd surprise you.

Yeah, boy. I can't even wrap my mind around that bit, Adam, but she liked it. She did. She really did. That's great. I do have a bad bit moment though. Okay.

All right. Because let's be honest, I can't just give you a good bit moment and have that be the thing. No, you. Like, have that be the reputation that somehow I'm going out in the world being a joy to be around for strangers. That's not the truth. My very presence can be seen as an inconvenience at best to most people.

You know just drafting off that idea. My parents were in town. They wanted to do something for my birthday. They offered to send me and they- Did they forget about your birthday again? No, no, it hasn't happened. But they were in town early. They were like, go out to dinner. It's on us. We'll look after the baby. And this was like, this is a great gift. Wow. Yeah. We're going to remember this forever. Our first night out without the baby, we go to a Mousseau in Frank, a legendary steakhouse in Hollywood, California.

Wow! We got there a little bit ahead of our res and went to have a martini at the bar. Cool. And the bar was full, except for one seat at the very end, and my wife sits down, and then I'm standing in the service area,

slash near the door to the kitchen for that side of the dining room. Oh, they hate that. And I'm just like, this is a perfect metaphor for my entire life. I always feel like I'm a little bit in every best way. And there was one seat, but it should not go to me. It should go to my wife, obviously. And so here I am on my birthday dinner, like having a martini while

looking at like the place where they scrape the plates into the garbage. Here's you on your birthday with the worst setup. Yeah, I think that like when I think about what a bad bit moment is like, it is like making the essence of that. Something that everyone is suddenly aware of. It's true. The more public, the better. Yeah. So what's your second bad bit at them?

It's a little more public than the first. The first was a phone call. This one, aboard a Delta Airlines flight. I'm sitting up front. Oh. I've sitting up front. I've just enjoyed a delicious breakfast. And one of the breakfast items was just a fucking bang and banana bread. Like one of the best pieces of banana bread I've ever had. Wow. And I made sure to tell the flight attendant how much I liked it. But the way I told the flight attendant how much I liked it was a bad bit moment. I handed my tray

back over. I'm a windoman. So I handed my tray over the one person in the aisle, the Ben proxy. Right. Yeah. Who were you flying with? I'm a little offended by this. And I said, this banana bread was great. You make a great banana bread. And the flight attendant looked at me, unsmiling, anti-smiling even, and was like, I didn't make it. it. Wealed around and left. It's it's it's it. And it made me feel bad the rest of the flight. Because I was hoping like, of course, they didn't make the banana bread. Yeah. You want me to explain the joke, giving responsibility for the good thing to someone who doesn't deserve it. That's the joke. When I worked in a restaurant the first day that I worked there, the staff meeting

before dinner service, I was being trained. I didn't know my ass for my elbow at this point. The manager of the restaurant fucking lit up the waiters for saying when they were telling people like what was on the menu that day, saying like, I've got a full-a of fish, I've got a burger, I've got... The possessive form of the menu introduction? Like, you don't have shit, the chef has that.

And really, really lit them up for taking any responsibility for the food at all. I mean, this was a very toxic work environment for a lot of reasons, but I was like, I mean, the guy's got a point. You don't have shit. You didn't cook it. That is such a semantic copy edit criticism, but I can't help it like secretly admire and appreciate it and agree with it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Guy was a total asshole, but in this one instance, you know, stop clock, he had a good point. I love arguing semantics. Hmm. Do you all know see if we get into any semantic debates on today's episode of Star Trek, Colin Voyager? They're all over the place, Ben.

I'm sure. I think we're gonna run into many as we describe the characters involved. In Star Trek Voyager season four, episode 24, demon. Reaver course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots, I'm not turning around.

Oh, darn. You watched this episode, right? I did watch this episode. Okay. You must be bucking for a promotion. Starts with BLT back at work and I was like, you know what? I bet what they're doing with Roxantos and it's bringing her in. They're going to get one scene with her center home. She's got a lot on her plate, right? She's been away for two episodes and she's back on the show. Definitely want to frame her with the camera down low, shooting up.

Gotta do that. Yeah, she's all over this episode. She's in it a bunch. She is. I was shocked by this. We open on them, cutting power. The ship is going gray because the deuterium supplies are running super low.

And this is the constant struggle with Voyager. They're not around starbases to resupply all the time. And when they run out of deuterium, they're fucked. Even at one quarter impulse, we'll be out of gas inside a week. I was pretty alarmed at how long they had let themselves go, like how dangerous this situation was. This is like taking a long road trip

and leaving the AC on full blast, just kind of whitenuckling yourself to your destination those last 20 miles, you know? I think we've all been there. Sure. But these are adults in command of a starship you'd think that they would be more careful about their range.

This is range anxiety. That's range anxiety. It's like, yeah, there's that the big one podcast about what will happen when a huge earthquake hits Los Angeles. And one of the things that I learned from that is never let the tank in your gas powered car get below 50%. Yeah. So you and I are both electric carbon. So if I'm home, I'm usually plugged in one way or the other.

So it's less of a concern of the electric. But yeah, it definitely like changed the way I think about a car, like letting it go down to like almost nothing and then refilling seems dangerous actually. Yeah, it does. And there is no crew person who expresses this feeling of like, Captain really, really fucking kept driving with the AC on, huh? Like, what in the hell is this? Why are we in this situation? And it's so dire, like they're making decisions based on how little they can

travel. Yeah, they have like a very limited amount of rain. They can't go at warp to do that, which I guess uses more power than impulse, but like also they don't know even where to look. Like, if we're using the road trip metaphor, there was a turn off. There was like a, you know, one of those, there's a KFC, a McDonald's and a Weener Schnitzel and a Chevron station. Yeah. Like family road trip centers along the side of the highway.

They were at a quarter of tank and they blew past that and now it's like 100 miles later and they're like starting to go like, he, I hope we see another one of those. I mean, don't you always want to carry enough fuel for the trip back to where you got the fuel last time, at least. That way you're never going to run out. Yeah, that would be ideal. But they're not doing that, and it's scary. It's very scary.

It's so scary that like their rationing of energy is such that they're shutting off power and environmental controls to certain decks and they're squeezing a bunch of crew people into the same quarters to conserve energy. Like it's that dire. And it's like take only what you need to survive if you're getting moved to another deck. And Nelix is catching two vox hands because Nelix is trying to bring a lot of luxury items with him. What's this?

It's my industrial strength hair dryer. And I can't live without it. Yeah, his luxury item is a book by ChiRex. Hahaha. One of the great breakfast cereals in my mind. And you can tell it's relaxing because it's got an accident. Yeah.

Why stop Elix from bringing a book and a blanket? Like, you would think more blankets mean less energy expended to keep Nelix warm. Yeah, and also like, I think that they should have shown like what everyone else is doing to drive Nelix to try and you know, invite himself to sleep in six bay because sleeping in six bay seems obvious. There's a bunch of beds in there But like let's see the like up the long ladder like disaster where there's a cargo bay with

Straun animals running around and that's like where everybody has to sleep, you know your hospitality leaves a hell of a lot to be desired Sleeping in six bay sounds like a good idea in theory, but I feel like you'd fall off those narrow beds all the time. Yeah. What you want is like a more of a Star Trek prodigy by Obed, you know. You really do. Yeah. Something with some gutters and walls. Yeah.

Meanwhile. Something with a drain. Something with a drain. Something with various orifices, you know, because when you don't have any privacy, sometimes you just want to roll over and comfort yourself. Do you think they ever thought about something more embarrassing for Nelix? Because you think this is going to get called back this book. It's not Nelix describes in great detail the importance of this author. Right.

But like, it would be great if it were instead like, the doc opens the book later and it's like, some fucking sex author. Right, like a glossy magazine falls out of the middle of the book. Hello there. Yeah. And he looks like lays out to try and like cover it up.

No, no, no, don't look at that. Yeah, yeah. Big beautiful whiskers. Oh, knee licks, you're into feet. Not surprising, actually. Yeah. Ooh. So yeah, up on the bridge,

Harry is also catching dunks for all the ideas. Like Tom Parris says this, like get a bicycle set up in the mess hall and make Harry pet pedal it idea. Yeah. If you think this is a one off, it is not. This is going to be a running theme in the episode. Start Trek is so weird because this is an episode about Ensign Kim taking more of the initiative in his life and at work.

Yeah. And immediately my thought is, an alien has taken control of it's and care. Like from the jump, it shouldn't be that way. Yeah, it's tough when you have a show that's sort of predicated on there not being that much change from episode to episode to like do character development.

Yeah. Like so, oh wait, suddenly he has an ambition. Yeah. Like, uh, wait, suddenly he has an ambition. Yeah. Since when? ChicoTe goes to the ass lab to tell seven to shut things down over there. Seven's like, you know, if we're trying to find a Ethereum and this is the Ethereum finding department, maybe we shouldn't shut it down idiot. And to prove her point, she finds Deterium. Highly concentrated Deterium. Bang, just then.

She's like, I came here to chew gum and find Deterium, and I'm all out of gum. Yeah. She picks up this Deterium on a demon class planet. This is the first of many, many, many times this description is leveled. Yeah. At this planet. And she coat days, well, that's too bad. Because no one's going there. Demon planet suck. And she's like, class, why?

Exactly. Yeah. You think a Borg's gives a shit about a demon class planet? No, that's like the briar patch for them. They love that shit. Yes. She goes, it's like, we can't go there. It's suicide. And seven's like, maybe it's worth it. The shit pulls up and it's like, I mean, they describe. The description is like going into orbit. TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO TOO Even his class forbid. Yeah, but like they go to orbit and it doesn't really seem to be a problem this time. Seven's confidence in the ass lab, I think, is what makes our great candidate to kind of lead the mission to capture some of this deuterium and beam it up to the Transportor room in kind of a containment device situation.

Because if you could just like mining is so much easier if you could just beam the Deterium right up to the ship like this is white glove mining is what this is, right? Don't even have to touch it. Yeah, this is the fancy stuff. Uh huh. Instead of black long, you get white glove lung. Yeah. I know you don't want to do it. Coffee black, make it yourself.

I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. Everything's going fine until it doesn't, though, because they beam the stuff up into the jar. Mm. Strangely, this is a jar not next to the warp core. Yeah, I was a little disoriented. I was like, it seems too dangerous not jar not next to the warp core. Yeah, I was a little disoriented. I was like, it seems too dangerous not to put next to the warp core.

Yeah, but this thing busts out of its glass jar and rocks the transporter operator behind seven. Like this guy gets the lightning bidet treatment. Yeah, I've heard that you can get that if you go to burning man, somebody else will shock your taint. Oh, yeah, anything to get your mind off of the dust going into your eyes, nose and ears. The ship keeps getting hit by thermionic discharges.

And you know, we're not physicians here, but I think if you've got a thermionic discharge, you should consult a doctor. Right. If it's not just urine, but also thermionics. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, that's a bad time. Thermionics that burn when they come out. Yeah.

There's a McLaughlin group. If you want! Harry, Mr. Career Advancement, Kim, wants to do an EVA to mind Duterium on the surface. Right. We can't let the opportunities slip away without at least trying. The running joke is like, yeah, go ahead and make

Harry do the worst job. So Tom Parris starts celebrating this funny idea and gets to be the pilot on this mission. So turn about his fair play. It is weird to see a one-hip kind of ordering people around in this scene. And Jane Wade, who are accredited, is like, yeah, go ahead. I mean, it's a bad idea at first

until he kind of makes a better case for it. Yeah, yeah, he's talking about like, I'm four years into my career. I actually have some some notches in my belt. I mean, both Delaney sisters, for example. Not to mention a lot of on-the-job experience. Yeah. After the McLaughlin group Harris is asking all the questions we are, who is this Harry Kim?

Yeah. What is his dark secret? Has he been taken over by an alien force? It didn't seem like you. Good. Even his walk is different, right? Like, he's kind of, it's kind of big dogging it around.

Yes, swinging the shoulders a bit. Yeah. But yeah, he's like, you know, I want to start commanding the respect I deserve around here. I'm sick of being encin' punching bag. Yeah. And this is a fair point.

I think that this is kind of overdue in a way. The scene that really locked it for me was when he took his clarinet to the virtual shredder. Mm. Traded it in for a trombone. Yeah, right. Now he's got that trombone energy. Yeah, tell me you love jazz. He's a real tromboner man. Yeah, right. Now he's got that Trombone energy. Yeah, tell me you love jazz. He's a real

Tromboner man. Yeah, sure is. He was stating the obvious again. They're taking a shuttle down. They don't want to risk beaming down. They do like a classic Star Trek shuttle landing where you don't get an exterior shot. Yeah. I was like, why no, why no exterior shot? We got all these fancy render farms now. Yeah, I mean, the money shots come later in this episode. Yeah, they're totally saving it. Like, I think that if you show the shuttle landing now, it's not as exciting to see the whole ship landing later. Yeah, you don't show the whole demon at this point in time.

I love how Paris loses attitude control before the shuttle does. That's fun. That's a good bit. Evan, lose an attitude control a lot, wait, wait, wait. Yeah. Yeah. So they're talking about like what this planet is like. And it's sort of the description that we get of the asteroid in the Michael Bay movie in Armageddon. Yeah. The asteroid name Dorothy or Betty. Oh, is it?

Oh, named after that guy's ex-wife. Right. She's a vicious life-sucking bitch from which there is no escape. I just remember the line like somebody says something like, you know, worst environment imaginable. That's all you had to say, man. And it's like, I think he needed to give you the specifics.

Right. There's like jets of gas coming out everywhere. It's super hot. Paris says that they're gonna be human barbecue if their suits fail. And it's like, come on, Paris, you've got to know that barbecue is low and slow and that grilling is about applying high heat directly.

Am I making any sense here? I'm working with a new grill, Ben. You know I've moved, I think I told you that. Yeah. Move to a new place and this place came with its own grill. I had to get rid of my old grill in favor of this one and I cooked a chicken on it last night. Uh huh, how'd it go?

Burnt it to a crisp. Oh no! Have you changed fuels? Is it, it's propane, right? Still propane. Well that's great because you can taste the meat and not the heat with propane I tell you a hot yeah, but it's just got different gas apertures when when it's going I mean I did the When you're cooking you need to pay attention right that was unpacking shit and cooking at the same time

And of course the chicken caught on fire and I wasn't paying attention to it like an idiot. Yeah, this is where Hank Hill and I part ways because, you know, he's very much of the like, you need to pay attention when you're cooking. Well, you should at least be in the same general vicinity of the cooking, which I wasn't. I'm a low in slow guy unlike Tom Paris. I subscribed to the adage.

If you're looking, you ain't cooking. That's kind of sexy sounding. 500 degrees Kelvin is the temperature on this planet. That is too hot for a cook and chicken. Are we in the Kelvin timeline? We are now. Yeah, baby. But we're in first contact space suits.

But we're in first contact space suits. We talked about how the little grill under the face mask in these spacesuits is clearly hand drilled and not that regular. No. It looks so bad when you see it in close up because the holes are just not evenly spaced. Oh, that's too bad. Yeah, it's very distracting to me every time I watch a scene with these things.

It's movie magic, Ben. Yeah, I guess so. Some prop designer or costume designer out there is getting really sad listening to you right now. Yeah, those were countless hours with a Dremel tool. The conical Dremel. Yeah. Or the Pyramid Dremel.

Yeah. That's the one you use, right? We all worship the Pyramid dremel. That's the one you use, right? Mm-hmm. We all worship the pyramid dremel. I like the planet set, though. It's a pretty advanced Star Trek cave set with some pretty deep vistas. Like, we don't feel like we're, you know, right up against the psych the way we do

in so many TNG away missions. Season one TNG dreams of an away team that looks like this. And the viscous metal that they find in pools all over the place looks really cool. Maybe it's just because I've been doing this a lot, but it looks like spilled paint to me. Spilled silver paint that hasn't been mixed. There's some weird like CG mixed with practical. Spilled silver paint that hasn't been mixed. There's some weird like CG mixed with practical stuff that's like kind of surprisingly good in this episode too. Yeah, I do agree with that.

Cause like Harry's crouching over one of these pools and he's like, cool, I'm like, there's a deuterium in this and Tom Barrett is like, I'm gonna go over here and do something else. And it's like, have you guys not seen one horror movie? Like, don't split up. When they do split up and Paris is across the way doing his own thing, he tells a joke

and he gets a very Adam style reaction to that joke, which is nothing. And that's how he knows something is wrong with Instant Kim. Yeah, Instant Kim, a known easy laugh. And when Tom turns around, Instant Kim is nowhere to be found. And he reaches into the pool.

And there's some like CG rippling of the of the water. I was so surprised that Kim had been armist by this thing. Yeah, he got sucked right in. Yeah. And when he gets pulled out, there's none of this crud on his costume. You falling into some crud or something? Yeah, it just like disappears. This is why it had to be CG.

You can't get this costume, Jurti. Imagine a metal armus. Armus was bad enough made out of tar. No redeeming qualities. This would be metal, a skin of metal evil. Could armus be assimilated? Wow. That's a great question.

Where would you even put the tubules on armus? I think you'd have to... Like, there's an episode of the hit Star Trek podcast, Greatest Trek about an episode of Prodigy, where zero gets assimilated. Yeah. Zero is like in a container. Right.

If you could put armus in a container. Right. If you could put armus in a container and then assimilate the container, maybe that's how you do it. Maybe that's why armus wanted that shuttlecraft. Right. Because you wanted to go get assimilated. I'm not taking you anywhere. I mean, if you can't be,

that makes him an interesting guy to sort of out there. Yeah, yeah. Immune. Yeah. Due to being such a worthless piece of shit. Yeah. Yes and true. You know, the U.S.S.

You know, the U.S. You know, the U.S. You know, the U.S. You know, the U.S. You know, the U.S. You know, the U.S. You know, the U.S. You know, the U.S.

You know, the U.S. You know, the U.S. You know, the U.S. You know, the U.S. You know, the U.S get him back to the shuttle. Harry's oxygen has been compromised so they don't have much time. We see some of this goo go into Tom's suit and then he's compromised also. Yeah. These scenes happen so quickly though, right? And they're so darkly lit that I had to back this up a couple of times to make sure I was seeing what I was seeing. Yeah. And pretty quickly, like, they are both unable to breathe and they like collapse in a tunnel

face down on the floor. RSVP, Tom and Ari. Yeah. It's too bad too because it feels like Kim was really coming into his own as a character with the confidence and so forth. Right. Yeah. This is really sad, but I'd like to cut back to the comedic B story of Nielix pushing for getting to have a bed in 6 Bay. Right. The deaths of two beloved characters and the scene that follows. Yeah. I guess it serves to underline how oblivious everyone on the ship is to what has happened to Tom and Harry because they're out of communication and just hoping that that goes well. Nielix is Nielixing around in Six Bay and pissing off the

EMA true feels very imposed upon. Where are we supposed to sleep anywhere but here? This is a sick bay not a dormitory. Interesting strategy by Nielix to not look out for himself and his own bio bed and instead bring some hangers on into the moment. This is the part where I was like, oh, I wouldn't have done that. Like, if you want to get an easy yes, it's easier to get a yes when it's just you instead of like, hey, can I also invite four other people in a VIP with me? Yeah, yeah. I mean, maybe what he did was like pick the crew members

that he knew don't snore. Yeah. You know, like the request has more strength if there's a bunch of us that want it. Right. And also, if I pick my group, I know I'll get a good night's sleep. Yeah. Maybe that's what night's sleep. Yeah. Maybe that's what he's thinking.

One of the dudes should have been the lightning bidet guy. Like, this guy was just here. Like, we could just stick him back in the bed where he was. We haven't even changed the sheet of paper that we pulled down over the bed to, you know, make it seem like it's clean in between patients. You could just stick me back in the iron long bed. I spent quite a bunch of time there.

Yeah. Yeah, go ahead and replicate me along while you're at it. Yeah. Yeah, why haven't you done that already? So, Shikote is trying to, like, keep the piece here. God, what a fucking shitty job. You wanted to see me doctor? Oh, it's about time.

Mr. Nielix is attempting to turn my sick bay into a fluff house. time. Mr. Nielix is attempting to turn my sick bay into a flub house. Feels like the Chico Tay stock has been not great over the course of the season, right? Season four, not a great Chico Tay season. Yeah, but doesn't it seem like the EMH would be a pretty big power suck? And couldn't you, if you just had him on the mobile emitter, and we're only turning him on as needed to save the mobile emitter's battery, isn't that the way? Isn't that the way to save a bunch of energy? I mean, they started treating him like a person, and all of a sudden you got to make sacrifices. You give a hologram a cookie. Uh-huh.

Yeah. I mean, the docs push back is what's ridiculous here. Like the doc could have very real reasons for not having people in there, but his reasons are stupid. He likes to sing and he likes to stay up late at night, even though the idea of night to a hologram person shouldn't make any sense at all. Night is a social construct.

Yeah. The very time of day is racist, Ben. So that's going on to go to his trending trying to make them see eye to eye when he gets called up to the bridge. And Janeway is really worried about the lack of communications with their away team. And I was decided to put everyone else in danger also. She wants

to go to Blue Alert. Right. I mean, it's kind of a weird raising of the stakes because Chico Te is like, look, I got to go down there and save him. And Janeway's like, no, you're too high of value to lose. She's like, I've seen what you do to shuttles. Yeah. Yeah. So they're pot committed at this point to taking the ship down.

Let us down easy, commanding. Sounds great. This is the scene. They kept their special effects powder dry at the beginning of the episode from this sequence because it is like, I feel like the second time we saw them land the ship, they reused a lot of the same effects shots as the first time.

They land the ship in this series, but this is like a whole new suite of effects shots. It looks awesome. It looks dangerous. I feel like the Demon classes danger has been overstated at this point. If they feel like it's a good has been overstated at this point if they feel like it's a good gamble to land the ship on it. Like how is this planet that is dangerous to even go an orbit of safe enough to land

on? It's nuts. I mean, the bangers are hitting them hard. The shields are crashing. Finally, they land. Race for impact. Yeah. shields are crashing. Finally, they land. Race for impact. Yeah, and it's like the damage report is we're not getting off the surface anytime soon.

This is like the hard landing in a commercial aircraft that like sends the plane into the hangar for a while. Right, right, yeah. We're gonna have to replace the gear to make this thing air worthy again. What a gamble, right? Like they absolutely have to leave this planet with Duterium now. BLT walks back into the episode.

She's not on a maternity leave at all. She's not in the office for one day. She's like, I want to go on the adventure, like put me in coach. Right. And immediately get sidelined, though. Yeah. She's ready to play in the game, but Chico Te goes no way.

You think I can't control myself? I think I'm a little too close to this. You're damn right, I am. This planet is 500 degrees Kelvin. We don't need somebody that's already hot headed out there. You can't even regulate your own temperature. You think you're gonna be comfortable out there?

Yeah. So it's a no. And then people are just trying to sleep in six bay and the EMH is being a total bastard to them. Yeah, it sucks. If there is a way that you can aggressively do chores, that's what the doc is doing. Oh, that's the only way I do chores. Yeah.

I don't want to do this. I don't want to take the garbage cans out. Yeah. This is a passive aggressive measuring contest that it seems like the doc is going to win. I mean, it does seem like that at the beginning, but Nielix is like, you think you're annoying? How about a singer long? Nielix is great at taking something that you enjoy and making that unenjoyable by volume. Yeah, right. Hey, I heard you like singing. Yeah. How about we do some singing on tap of your singing? Yeah, he's the exhibit of this episode. Yeah. Yeah, we cut back to the away team and they're like stomping

around on the planet surface looking for everyone. I was shocked that Tom and Harry just left the back of their shuttle open. I thought the same thing. Like, can you imagine how hot the upholstery is if it's been

baking in 500 Kelvin heat? Oh, man. That's like, you know, getting into a caumarrows and like sitting with short shorts on the Naga hive. Yeah. This is no good. That's not, not, not good. It seems like every time somebody touches the liquid in these pools, something bad happens

and seven comes really close. It's one of those like, is she going to do it? Is she going to do it? Is she gonna do it? Yeah. Oh. There's an insanity to this moment because seven and Shikote are on a search and rescue mission. But seven sees the deuterium and is like,

oh, I better go get a sample of that. It's like going on a search and rescue mission after an avalanche, but getting into a snowball fight before you find the people buried. on a search and rescue mission after an avalanche, but getting into a snowball fight before before you find the people buried. Yeah, we'll collect the deteriorum later as you wish. First things first seven. Yeah, we have a status that this planet has deteriorated. Yeah, we know. It's okay. They keep moving. They're still looking for Tom and Harry. Chico Teh almost becomes a cliff kid.

Yeah. It was very scary to see that. Yeah. The ledge gives way. And seven starts to pull them up with the help of Tom Paris. And Tom Paris is not in his spacesuit. He's just in his regular ass uniform. He's become demon compatible. He's raw dog to the pull up. ass uniform. He's become demon compatible. He's raw dog to the pull up. Because you see like the gloved hand of a seven. Yeah. Helped you go tape it. Then you see the new hand. Yeah. Of the Paris. Paris is hitting it raw. Yeah. He's feeling everything. Mm-hmm. It's what he's wanted all along. Yeah. He had to learn from Harry. How to do this. I know. You know? Of course it's locked in. It's locked in. It's locked in.

It's locked in. It's locked in. It's locked in. It's locked in. After the commercial, Paris explains just how great it is to not wear a suit out here. Yeah. It's wonderful.

It's like when you're a kid who's afraid of the water and you suddenly realize that you can swim. I feel great. I've never breathed air this fresh. Anyways, come deeper into the cave. I found a ton of deuterium back there. And I was like, okay, this is evil Paris like luring them to their certain deaths.

If he were a little more chilled out about how pleasurable it was to not wear a suit, I'd be ready to fall for this. Yeah, like. But he is so hyped up. Like he's a rave rakeet about this. Yeah. Yeah.

Have you ever fucked breathing demon atmosphere? He's like doing digits, finger dancing, and like messing around with a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, And the story he tells about how he ended up where he was just does not make any sense at all He's like, so I passed out and then I woke up and then I was breathing and I wasn't wearing a suit And I don't know where the suit is but this planet is awesome Yeah, yeah cool story man. So you took your rubber off. You don't know when It's fine You took your rubber off, you don't know when. It's fine. There's a mania to Paris that is reflected by Chico Te, in like a totally stoic Chico Te way.

That is really funny to me. Go ahead, take your helmets off, try it. I'm glad you're feeling all right, but none of us should be taking any risks until we know exactly what's going on. So many science fiction things have been about like, like, taking the helmet off was a mistake. Yeah.

And I like seeing Chicago take stick to his guns here. I know. So the actor who plays Vorik got the haircut. You need to stick him in this episode. So if he gets an interstitial here that serves to tell the viewer how little time we have left before the ship loses power all together. I can't believe we got voric. I feel like it's been a season since we've seen voric. I wonder if production wise you get voric on the on deck circle and case rocks on Dawson's

recovery takes longer and then you you make a BORIC, the engineer of the episode, for storytelling purposes. Yeah, I think she's doing really good subtle stuff because when he walks up to her and says, Lieutenant, she's like, yeah, she doesn't even look at him. Yeah, she's instead of looking at him,

she just kicks him like a horse. Doesn't even turn around. She just kicks out behind her right in the nuts. Indeed. They really cut it close on the on the power situation, but they're getting everything back working, you know, like they're going to have transporters, which will be good. But yeah, they're going to need some duty room really soon. Right. Back on the planet where the deterioration is, Paris has led Chicoet and 7 to where Kim is. And Kim is also not wearing an environmental suit. And he is, if you can believe it, even more euphoric than Paris

about this circumstance. He fucking loves it down here and he's like, you guys don't know what you're missing. You gotta try it. Commander, isn't it incredible? That's what I've been trying to tell him. I think everyone has felt like Jicote and Seven before, like being the late attendees to a party

after everyone is pretty smashed. And like knowing you need to catch up, but maybe it's just too late to catch up. Maybe you shouldn't even start. You're not going to get into that headspace and you're going to be too tight. Like by the time you're getting drunk, you're also going to need to sleep. Yeah, and there's kind of a tediousness to Kim and Paris, like just being around them is like, all right, I get it. Maybe coming to this party wasn't a good idea anyway. Maybe I'm just not in the mood. Yeah. I appreciate your enthusiasm,

but we're going back to Voyager now. So they convinced them like, hey, like let's take some of this deuterium and beam back to the ship now that the transporters are back working and they materialize on the transporter pad and Tom and Harry immediately are not doing well. Yeah. The air on the ship hits really hard and they start coughing which is only gonna get them super high. Yeah, the harder you cough, right? And it's like these guys have never hit a bong before. cough, right? And it's like these guys have never hit a bong before. So Lee and out. Yeah, I mean, they're beamed directly to six bay afterwards. And the doc puts them behind a force field and fills that area with with demon air.

Yeah, pretty quick thinking by the doc. And pretty quick, like formulation of a theory, which is that if terraforming a planet is making it habitable to human life, bioforming a person is a planet making the person compatible with the planet. So, so they've been bioformed is the working theory here. What a concept. And they're no longer able to live in an environment like Voyager. They have to live in a demon environment. And so Harry is like, hey man, send me back in the game coach.

Yeah, he's like, are you saying that we need to go back down there to live because, okay. I kind of like the Tom gets stuck not getting to go back. Kim is outranked by Tom. I'm shocked at the number of times this episode, Paris doesn't pull rank on him. Yeah, that seems to be sort of an unspoken thing about their relationship is like they're such good friends that they kind of don't observe rank around each other. That's nice.

Like Harry doesn't have to call Tom sir at work or anything. I like that. It's good. It's classy move by Tom. On the planet seven Chicoet and demon Kim are walking around and Kim appears to be seeing a planet that no one else is. Like he has seen the demon planet

after it's taken off its glasses and shaken off its hair. Yeah. And as like walk down the steps to prom. Right. it after it's taken off its glasses and shaken off its hair. And it's like walk down the steps to prom. Right. And this planet's looking good to come. I think it's breathtaking. Breath-taking. Yes.

Chicoet and Seven just can't see it because they're like, but the planet's hair is in a bun. And it's wearing like coveralls that have a little bit of paint on it. Yeah. And it's wearing like, coveralls that have a little bit of paint on it because it's so artsy. Yeah. How could you think that this planet is hot? This planet is never going to win homecoming queen. Hahaha.

Hahaha. Not if we have anything to say about it. Kim is like, I bet you this planet can. And that the fact that it was a bet becomes a big problem a little bit later on. My bet. My bet. My fucking bet. Seven picks up some humanoid life signs not far away and that's interesting. Who else is on this planet? It's a, hey, let's go find out what that is.

Cause, you know, I mean, like, you got to be careful in any star Trek context that you might be violating the prime directive. Yeah. And if they're minding somebody's planet unknowingly, that would be bad. It would be, yeah. So they head off, and in the science lab,

the captain and BLT are working on a sample of this Deuterium goo and some of it touches BLT and forms a perfect thumb. Yeah, it's sort of like founder goo. It is except silver not gold. Do they keep the thumb? Like we don't follow up with the thumb later. And I think if you're PLT, you gotta hold onto that thing.

Yeah, put it under glass, or maybe in the end, like they have to leave it because, yeah, you know, be cruel or whatever. But yeah, back on the planet, Harry finds his own dead body. This is such a trip. This is very twilight, Sony.

Yeah. Tom and Harry are in their spacesuits where where we last saw them. They have been found face down at least, right, which to some cultures is the best way to die. Chico de is so relieved about this. Yeah. Kim and Paris have not gone to the hereafter though. No, they're alive.

How are they alive? Their suits are running out of air. It's explained away very weakly that like even though you run out of air in a space suit, there is some minimal life-saving things these EV suits can do. Wow. I don't know. Ehh. Hahahaha.

Ah! Uh, yeah. I've got a question about Star Trek Voyager season 4 episode 24 demons. You got two crew people wearing environmental suits made out of dremels. And you expect me to believe that once they run out of air, there's some other system that keeps the birdies alive? And um, a demon class planter is not something we've heard of previously in the canon. Uh, I noticed they were laying face down to do you ever think of it calling it a crazy beast class player.

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Yeah. And it's just heightening, you know, the danger to the ship, we need to get some deuterium on board, quick fast things. Seems to have sort of gotten solved, but now the planet is like consuming the entire ship with this goo. The ship is clearly sad, and that's why it's sinking into this mud. You hate to see that happen to a starship

in the prime of its life. I know. This is a real art tax problem here with a ship. Got to figure it out. Everyone knew that whoever let the sadness overtake him would sink into the swamp. Kim and Paris are still alive. And when Chicoetay asks for the beam back to Six Bay

for five people, five, I can't explain it. The unsuited Kim, the demon Kim, if you will, starts to freak out. Yeah. He does not want to go and he runs away. He runs away. Doesn't want to go back. Yeah, it seems like a dangerous place to even walk with like any sort of speed. Yeah. You want to be careful.

Right. There's little jets of steam coming out everywhere. Yeah. There's thermionic discharges. The reason this is such a crucial moment is because the voyagers in a hurry, they need to take off. They are sinking at such a speed that they can't wait for demon Kim. They got to leave him down there.

There's coffee getting off this planet. That was like discussed like when they first filled the volume of force fielded six bay with gas that like, my god, like we might have to leave Tom and Harry here because this is the only place they can survive now. Yeah. And that was met with some like despair, but now it's like all Kim wants. And when they're talking about, hey, some like despair. But now it's like all Kim wants. And when they're talking about, Hey, we got to, we got to take off Tom Paris is like pacing back and forth and

six. But like, I don't fucking want to do it, man. Don't take me with you. The idea of being left on a planet is a concept we've seen before with Chico Tay and Janeway. Right. And Tom's not going to make Harry a bathtub. Not only that, we know how weak those shelters are in like just a standard issue storm. Right. Those things are gonna hold up on a demon class planet. Starfleet doesn't make a demon class shelter.

Yeah. They make bullshit shelters for M class planets. Hahaha. The ship is having a hard time getting out of the mud here and the thrusters are clearly not enough to get them up. Something is restraining them. It's not just about the sink. It's that something is grabbing them and holding them.

They're stuck in the metal mud and the captain is like on the radio with demon Kim saying like, you know that this is like a huge problem for us and Tom and Kim are both saying like, yeah, like, like, we don't get it either. Like, we don't know why there's other copies of us that aren't like this. This is one of those moments where Janeway knows the score and does not share that score with anyone else because her conversation with Kim reveals that her hunch is true,

that there's some sort of connection between Kim and the spilled paint. And maybe one way to get leverage is to shoot the ship's phasers at the paint. Yeah, the theory has gone from there. They've been bi- they've been bi- ...formed to, there's something else going on. Maybe they're like some kind of duplers. Yeah. So maybe we like try to embarrass them or compliment them really sincerely or something.

Harry, you have chosen the clarinet. Why? Of all the instruments. One of the Delaney sisters said that you finished a little faster than she would have hoped. The other one was very satisfied. Most people stopped having that haircut a couple of years ago and look at you holding on because you are afraid to try new things. They start talking about the paint as silver blood. Yeah. And when we come to understand through like they get like demon Kim up on the transporter pad so that there can be a face-to-face conversation between him and the captain.

And it's like, yeah, like, there's this like complex material that had like instinct or something, but not intelligence and interacting with an intelligence showed the silver blood that there was something called intelligence that was possible and it spontaneously started doing it. It catalyzed the silver blood to do its own intelligence, but it's like, I want more, I want everybody on the ship to give me some of their intelligence. It's like a neutral armus, right? When the D found armus, they were already fully evil and able to experience what it's like to have a form of sentience, but this neutral armist had no idea what it would be like to have these kind of thoughts or become a person in the way that they became by becoming Kim and Paris.

Yeah, it wasn't dank and vile, it was kind of like neutral and fine. Yeah, yeah. You know, any more neutral and fine is like the best you can do, right? Kind of appreciate it. Yeah. So there's sort of like this weird moment of, this almost becomes transactional

where Janeway realizes like, oh, well, I can get as much a deuterium as I'm ever gonna to need from this guy that thinks he's Harry Kim. If I just give DNA samples of my entire crew to him. But also, while holding the ship's phaser banks to the paint's head here. Yeah.

Yeah, it's a little bit under duress, but also she gives the silver blood exactly what it wants. Yeah. You want to duplicate the rest of this crew and populate this planet. And like, it happens really fast. Like the end of this episode is bug nuts to me, like just how swiftly this becomes the plan and like how there isn't like a all-hands meeting where she pitches this to the crew. Nobody gets to vote on it. Well, I interpreted it as a voluntary thing. Like

meet in the cargo bay and I'll pitch you this idea. Yeah, I guess so, but like, I mean, it looked like the whole crew standing on the surface. It looked like a lot of people. And you're right, the abruptness of not just the conclusion of the episode, but the solution to the problem in proximity to its conclusion was unusual. The resolution of the episode is sort of elliptical and you just realize that a lot of people did this because with the closing credits coming up on the screen, a shot of Voyager taking off, well, a couple hundred crew people mill around the surface. It's a Tom Riker problem because they've made a hundred Thomas Rikers and just left them behind.

And like a hundred Thomas Rikers with the full diversity of kinds of expertise that you would have in Star Trek. So these are people that know how to like create technology and do things. And like the implications of this are fucking bonkers. There's a planet with an entire starship crew that like breathe a different atmosphere that they just left behind. The thing about euphoria is that it eventually fades.

What happens two weeks from now? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, where they're like cool, we're in a beautiful place. What do we do? Yeah, like, are they bored at a certain point? Like, there's no other stimulus. Like, they didn't leave a computer set behind with a bunch of movies and stuff for them to do.

It's unclear whether anything it always left with them besides like the occasional round pelican case on a strap. Yeah. I like the one person waving. Yeah. That person actually used to work at a Utopia Planisha shipyard and used to wave to the starships

as they pulled out of space stock. I'm going to set up a jewelry exchange. Yeah. I'm going to set up a jewelry exchange. Did you like this very weird episode, Adam? You know, probably the easy to get along with most of the time. But I don't like bullets, I don't like threats, and I don't like you. I like this too. I like to couple a part of it. I liked the great spin on the Star Trek Caves

playset. Like, this is a promotion for the Star Trek Caves. Like, we can do this now in a really fun way. Yeah. Great Caves episode. Great Caves episode. Bad Janeway episode. Really bad Janeway episode. Because I think the buck stops with you. Like, you're the driver on the road trip and it's up to you to figure out where and when to stop to make sure you're not pulled over on the side of the road with the hood up. Right. Bad planning, Janeway. Not good.

And I'm gas-leaf. We can't get the Deloitte up to 88 miles per hour. And finally, the absurdity of the copied crew left behind, I'm trying to put myself in the mindset of like, is this a story that's like the faster we get out of this and into the credits? If we don't give a viewer any time to think about this, they will not consider

how ridiculous this choice is. Because this, the end of this episode is double middle fingers to the Thomas Riker episode and TNT. This is like, you didn't have to make a whole episode about this. You didn't have to talk about the morality of a copy or anything. Yeah. I thought if one thing we're clear by now, said you and I play things a little differently, like you can just make copies and leave them behind.

That's so wild. And also where's the thumb? Yeah. Where's BLT's thumb? So that's presumably like a, like hey, we're gonna need the thumb also because before you came, the silver blood was, you know, entirely instinct based. but when it realized it could do

thumb, it had to do thumb. I mean, it did when it went into the space suit, when it went into Paris's leg, pretty high up on the leg, right? Yeah, it was just a little sample. I could have created anything. Just a single bagged testicle. Just a rolling around. Rolling around in a dirty planet.

Yeah. Then what about you? I kind of love this episode. Yeah. I love how just unrestrained and mad it is. It seems so wild to me that they left a planet behind with an entire crew. Like, boy, do you think Star Trek Prodigy could do something with this? Like, is this ever going to get called back in any Star Trek timeline? Like the... It's right there.

It is so interesting. It is such a pregnant ending. Also, wouldn't you like to know who chose to volunteer their DNA versus who didn't? Like, did the captain? Yeah. Yeah, because if she did, maybe, you know what? I bet they had to restrict it.

Well, no, because I was thinking like the captain couldn't, because then Omega is something that these people are aware of, but she told the whole senior have about Omega. So it doesn't matter because the first two people that got silver blood assimilated are Tom and Harry. That's another question. Did they get seven? Is there a silver blood borug? Could the borug assimilate silver bloods?

All of these questions are things I'm curious about. Is there slash fiction of demon Chico Te and demon Janeway? Getting down? Yeah. Yeah. She's taking a bath in like methane or something, you know, something crazy because it's a a Y-class. How do you build a bathtub for this stuff? You don't know. It just goes right through spacesuits. You probably go right through a rock bathtub. Yeah.

Yeah. Man. What a crazy episode. Let's see if we have anything in the priority one inbox, Adam. What do you say? Nothing in our P1 inbox will be as crazy as this episode. That's what I think. You're probably right.

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appreciate it. Hey Ben, what's that Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Drunk Shimoda! Gotta give it to Janeway this episode. I think the episode may sell her short in how, it sort of felt like the episode ran out of time to let her process the fullness of the, of the ask that the silver blood demon Kim was making. But yeah, the just staggeringly quick turnaround from figuring out what was going on

to leaving the planet with her entire crew replicated, being left behind, just seemed like a really surprising choice for the commander of a ship to make. And I mean, that coupled with the hay we're running out of gas in the middle of the highway energy at the beginning of the episode was just no good looks in this episode for Janeway. Yeah. And yeah, do the people that they leave like they have the consciousnesses and memories and stuff of the people that they replicate. Do they want to go home?

Or is that like the one thing that's different about them is that they love demon planet and they want to stay there? That's one aspect to the story that is not super clear to me. Like by portraying Kim and Paris's feelings toward the planet, the way that they do, is that suggesting that those feelings supersede all other feelings that these copies have? I guess. I don't know. I'm going to make my Shimo to BLT because there is a missing scene in this episode. And that scene is BLT going to visit demon Paris in the 6th Bay.

Why didn't she do that? She never does. And I think we can guess why that doesn't happen for production reasons. Maybe a Roxanne Doss and his on light duty. But that is a pretty glaring omission as characters go. Yeah. And you do get the scene where BLT tells you, Kote, you know, you better bring, better bring back my boy, bring a fucking badass with you to help. But that there is no shared scene between them. I don't know. It just felt like there was a big hole in the story.

One of many, one of many holes. For unfilled this episode. And for that reason, she's gonna be my drunk Shimoda. Wow. Good Shimoda. What a weird episode. Yeah. And were we supposed to do this episode in a particular way?

God, I hope not. No, we were on a regular square. We were on square 25, but let's find out if we have to do the next episode in a particular way, that would be interesting. To find out, we're going to goch.bizslashgame, where the game of buttholes will of the caretaker awaits. The next episode is season four episode 25, one. Seven must deal with an almost complete solitude. When the crew must go into protective stasis

for a month in order to cross a dangerous nebula. Mm-hmm. Wow. Sort of reminds me of Prometheus, the robot character that stays awake the entire time. Yeah. Very interesting. Well, that'll be next week. As I mentioned, we are on square 25. We do have a naked now square that we could hit out in front of us there. I know that would be a big thrill for you, Adam. Famously, that is my exit ramp from the show.

That's where you get off. Yeah. That's where Adam stops being a part of the show. You're required to learn as you play, roll. All right, go ahead and roll this bone. Wish me luck. I've rolled a one, Adam. Tula!

Did I win? Harvey. So, we're on square 26. The naked now remains a hazard. You're gonna make me roll it. The ultimate dignity. Well, next week we will be reviewing one in a normal way. Looking forward to that.

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and great work on hurting the cats that are Ben and Adam. And we really appreciate her. We also appreciate Bill Tilly, the card daddy, who runs the At greatest Trek social media accounts. Give those a follow, they're really fun. Yeah, At greatest Trek on Twitter, At greatest Trek on Instagram. Yeah, join a community of friends of DeSoto,

there's a great big one on Facebook, one on Reddit, one on drunkshmota.com Discord server. Yeah, you were just over there yesterday. Yeah, I was hanging out on the discord the other day, just cutting it up. You do this too, from time to time, just pop over there, hang out. You know, people ask questions and stuff, but mostly it's just a joke around. Let's have fun. I'm gonna get on a flight in a few days. Maybe that's what I'll do while I'm on the plane. I like that idea We got to thank Nick Dittmore who made our show art. Got to thank Adam Ragusia who made the original Janeway song

Working on the inspiration of dark material who made the original the card song Follow Adam Ragusia all over the internet. He's making great cooking videos and a great podcast largely about cooking but also about how weird it is to be like a suddenly YouTube famous dude when yeah when he was just like minding his own business being a college professor before He's a very thoughtful dude. I like listening to him. Yeah, it's you Well with that we will be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek Voyager and an episode of the greatest generation Voyager. It's a lot like Prometheus in that there's the robot that stays awake for the journey, but then

also there's people taking off their helmets in opportune moments. Don't like that. What is this? Demon 2? Yeah, it is. What is this demon too? Yeah it is. It's very demon too because Paris and Kim did that this episode. Yeah. Prometheus is basically just a rip off of these two episodes, right? Yeah. Clearly. Clearly. I can tell.

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