The Greatest Generation - The Modesty Arch (VOY S4E13)

Episode Date: August 22, 2022

When the crew of Voyager starts dreaming about the same person, they must figure out if they’re under attack or just overslept. But when the man of their dreams becomes the monster of their nightmar...es, they’ll have to fight back in both the dream world and the real world. What color is your alert? Is there a limit to how long a person can hold out before cohabitating? How dangerous are the consequences of pre-celebration? It’s the episode that falls into the “dump” category or the “class” category! Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,
Starting point is 00:00:35 they've attempted to weaken the labor unions that represent those workers. They wouldn't even engage the unions on many issues in their negotiations. And so a strike was the only course of action to take. Adam, Wendy and I have been having a lot of internal discussions about how best to stand with the unions and we are continuing those conversations in a dynamic situation. We're doing our best to understand where the picket lines are in these digital spaces,
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Starting point is 00:01:55 and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdececoto for Labor.com. That's FriendsOfDecoto for Labor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Bringing what the U.S. is for Captain Captain Captain. Bringing what the U.S. is for Captain Captain Captain. Welcome to the greatest generation. The Star Trek podcast by a couple guys just a little bit embarrassed about
Starting point is 00:02:34 having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Adam Pryanaka. I'm Ben Harrison. I can tell you were really just thinking about all of the implications of having a Star Trek podcast where you said that. I really wasn't. What happened was that I started talking without having a breath in my lungs first. You ever do that?
Starting point is 00:02:53 I run into this all the time when we're recording ads. It's like I write up out all my copy and I try to make it sound like it's loose and conversational. That's what you're at. There's so much better than mine because you actually think about it in my head at time. But like you can really box yourself invocally by breathing at the wrong point.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Yeah, absolutely. And so your pauses end up being in the wrong spot. It's messed up. You would think that after 400 some odd episodes of this show and 100 some odd episodes of greatest discovery, etc., etc. I mean, all of the other podcasts that we've recorded over the years, we would be better at this.
Starting point is 00:03:37 But we're not, we're not getting any better. I'm not gonna put it that way. I'm just gonna put it like this. We're learning all the time. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. That's me injecting positivity into this thing. That's your role in the show. I know, right?
Starting point is 00:03:56 Some big stuff this week at this episode is coming out August 22nd. Just days from the beginning of Star Trek Las Vegas, and also days from the expected due date of my child. Wow. So we both have something to be excited about here. Yeah, I really fucked this up when I was attempting to conceive. I didn't look at the calendar and work out when STLV was going to be relative to the conception date.
Starting point is 00:04:33 I blew it. I'm going to miss you, man. I am so excited to get out there this year and devastated to leave you behind. I think going to STLV with you has been a really fun yearly thing that I look forward to because I don't want you to take this the wrong way. It is weird being in Vegas with you because I see it through someone's eyes who is not an enthusiast and I think that helps. Like, you get used to a relationship to a place like this and many years I don't see it for what it is,
Starting point is 00:05:06 but you really do. And it's, and I think it keeps me out of trouble. That doesn't keep me out of all of the trouble. No, no, no, no. But like, we're a good, yin and yang for Vegas. And it's gonna be weird to be there without you because I'm just gonna be all yin. Yeah, yeah,. You're you're riker with minuet in the holodeck and I'm Picard coming in like Yeah, I see some of the terms of this
Starting point is 00:05:35 Yeah, I have a question for you is it's not at the Rio this year, right? They're they moved hotels They moved it to the ballies and I'll say at this moment in time, I haven't booked where I'm staying yet. But I will say this, not going to stay at the Balleys. The Balleys by the time Stratroch Las Vegas happens might not even be Balleys anymore. It was bought in by the Bignons Casino Corporation. Bignons. Bignons about Balleys? by the Binions Casino Corporation. Binions. Binions about Bally's? Yeah, Binions is notable for being previously a downtown Las Vegas Casino where they used
Starting point is 00:06:12 to have the World Series a poker for like decades and decades. It was famous for it. And now Binions is coming back to the strip and taking over Bally's. Bally's is kind of a weird hotel to me. And I don't know if we've spent much time there, you and me at Star Trek Las Vegas is past. I don't think I've ever been to it. I used to get jobs from this really funny Irish mafia, New Jersey guy who would occasionally land us like a video gig in Las Vegas and we would like drive up and down the strip and he'd be like, the Mirage is a dump, the Bally's, it's a dump.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Now, the Venetian, that's a class joint and like every hotel on the strip fell into the dump category or the class joint category and he was very stridently opinionated about this and like, you know, mostly it's predictable. Circus, Circus, obviously a dump. Sure. Like, he is like such a creature of like movie Vegas,
Starting point is 00:07:13 you know, he is like, I'd say Irish gangster, Irish mafia, like as a joke about the kind of like cultural signifiers of his personality. But those cultural signifiers are heavily catered to by Las Vegas in a way that my cultural signifiers are not. So. It's really a place that leans in. Yeah, yeah. It was fun to see the place through eyes like that also. Right, right. I think it's unusual that the convention's being held there
Starting point is 00:07:44 and I looked it up and I read the Wikipedia article and it was like, oh, yeah, one of the worst fires in American history happened in Bally's because they didn't have Fire suppression systems in every room the way they do now. It's weird to think about a time in this country where you could stay in a high-rise hotel Yeah, where there was not a fire extinguisher, you know, in your ceiling. And several of them. It's a, man, like, I feel like every old hotel is like, every, like, director in Hollywood where you scroll down their Wikipedia page to the controversies and it's like, every one of them has a story like that probably. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I mean, obviously the place was fixed and codes were changed. So now, I mean, staying in a Vegas hotel is dangerous for the fire that occurs to your bank account, primarily. But in a metaphorical sense. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know where I'm going to stay. But I know we have a, a, and by we, I mean me, I guess I need
Starting point is 00:08:46 to set up a Kavanaugh party. Yeah. And they're somewhere, and I guess it's gotta be at Bally's. The Bally's Kavanaugh. Gotta do it. Gotta do it, man. We gotta keep the friends at the Soto well drunk for an afternoon, as is our way.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I hope you pour an entire hoof drink out or whatever the equivalent is at the ballies for me. God, I do it, man. I'll be missing you. We will also lute you with our Miriam hooves, man. You will be missed big time. And if the baby's not there by the time you do the big hang, FaceTime me in or something, you know? Hell yeah. Absolutely will. If the baby's not there by the time you do the big hang,
Starting point is 00:09:26 face time me in or something, you know? Hell yeah. Absolutely will. I think we'll open up the beer cooler on the underside of the lid. We'll gaff tape in an iPad and we'll be like it right there. People will be like from your view reaching at your junk and pulling out aluminum cans of beer. Yeah, I'll be going through the checklist, making sure that our go-bag has all the things in it
Starting point is 00:09:48 that it needs. Yeah, man. Anything could happen this week. Big exciting week. Well, we did a big exciting episode of Star Trek colon Voyager that we watched today. Do you want to get into it, Adam? I'm on my way there, Ben.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Already. It's mid-season four of Star Trek Voyager. I can't believe we're already in middle of season four. I don't get it. It feels like it's really moving fast. This series is gonna be over before we know it, but for right now, let's take a moment for Star Trek Voyager season four episode 13.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Waking moments. Reaver course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo tubes, I'm not turning around. your season 4 episode 13, waking moments. Reaver course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo doots, I'm not turning around. Oh, hard. Been an episode title that comes with an apostrophe on the Paramount Plus app in a way that broke my
Starting point is 00:10:37 proofreader's heart. I could not deal with this apostrophe. What is going on over there at the Paramount Plus app? How is that possible? Because I have the... Are you seeing this? I have Paramount as like an add-on to my Apple TV app. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:10:53 It was also there. It doesn't have it on mine. Really? Yeah. I could swear I saw it on Apple TV yesterday and when I saw it today it it had the apostrophe, but... Damn. That a good look.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Yeah. Very embarrassing. Unless they mean it with an apostrophe? Yeah. Waking moments blank. Possessive. Yeah. I one time after I graduated from college interviewed for and did not get a job writing capsules and episode information
Starting point is 00:11:28 for television shows. It was like a company that was like, we see the future, the future is streaming and little episode descriptions for every episode of every show ever made. They're going to be needed and they were prepared to pay me like $400 a week to like literally like watch TV and write episode descriptions. I didn't get the job. But I mean like I kind of think that that's like probably who is doing most of this work is like fresh out of school or like new to the job market types of folks that are know, not making a ton of money, not getting a ton of oversight in what they're doing. So I get it. It's hard for me because I am especially sensitive to the copyrighting aspects of all things. Yeah. That is a previous life that I
Starting point is 00:12:17 have not been able to get out of my blood. Like, I'm almost entirely an ex-filmmaker at this point, but I will always be a writer in that way. Well, this episode starts with a bunch of different little vignettes, and we kind of cut around to them. The first is Kim getting pulled into a tube with seven on his walk home. He was just trying to get home from work. I love this arm swinging, Ensign Kim through the corridor. Like, when you're on your way to work, you don't swing your arms. I think we know that.
Starting point is 00:12:50 No, you've got a coffee in one hand, a folded up newspaper in the other hand, smog and cigarette. Yeah. Tuvac wakes up, he's got to get to the bridge. It's like, what time is it that Kim, Kim is just getting off work and two boxes, just is just like deep in a sleep? That is the first thing that makes you feel strange, right?
Starting point is 00:13:12 The across timeness of this cold open. Yeah, because also like the next one is Janeway going into the restaurant and it's all shut down and the lights aren't on and nobody's there. JTO always comes out and greets. Let's go. So it's like, I did Kim pull like a third shift or even a fourth shift? I mean, that's Jellico's dream right there.
Starting point is 00:13:38 I don't want to talk about it. Working that fourth shift. I've got to say Ben, if I'm the captain of the Voyager and I walk into the mess hall and Nielix isn't there, red alert. Because where else would he be? Yeah. He's kind of a workaholic. What color are Loyola roots?
Starting point is 00:13:57 That should be the color of alert. Boy, that's a hard thing to say, the color of alert. The color of Loyola roots is the color of the alert. That's a vocal warmup that we do before. We record an episode of the greatest generation. I do mine with a stack of crackers in my mouth. Ben, are we done with the Holodeck program? That's the resort.
Starting point is 00:14:18 We used to be there all the time and now no one goes. It feels like it's been forever since we've been there. I think that the Maestro's workshop felt like it was replacing that, but it was also only for Janeway. It'd be great if we brought side slits shorts, shlong guy into the Leonardo da Vinci program. That would have been awesome.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Where his jack-off machines are getting practical experiments? If they ever bring sundreams back and he's just in there, that would be good. The Vic Fontaine program in DS9, I feel like Voyager took the idea of a regular holodeck hang and ran with it in a way. I think toward the end of the series, it's more like, hey, this season,
Starting point is 00:15:07 this is the kind of environment we hang out in. Yeah. I mean, I get it, you get bored with things. But I do like the kind of infinite holodeck programs and infinite combinations of a long-term mission like this. Right. I'd like to go back sometime. Sides long guy in the Renaissance would be really exciting.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yeah. The Leonardo da Vinci would be particularly excited about that guy. It's hot too. Yeah, he's really got that Renaissance dick, huh? What would a Renaissance dick even be? Like, it would just have a lot of realistic shadows. It follows you around the room. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:51 It's always looking. So, yeah, we come to realize that these are dreams. There's a bunch of different ones that we see and many that we don't. We only hear described later, but they're all, like, dreams on a scale of getting to make out with Seven of Nine in Harry's case to like Shuttle explosion in Paris's case to showing up to work in the buff in two box case But they all feature this one man with like a a fang coming out of his chin. That's bone a really unusual alien a Star Trek aliens go
Starting point is 00:16:23 I think. Yeah. Because he's not a symmetrical in a way so many of them are with the loaf. Yeah. It must be hard to keep coming up with new ideas for loafy guys. This guy appears in kind of a funny way in all of these vignettes, right? Like sometimes he's just there watching Kim and Seven make out. Sometimes he's just in Nielix's mess hall when Janeway is shown a booth full of cobweb covered crew people. And then then the last one he like pops out from below frame outside the windscreen of the shuttle. And I This shuttle and I couldn't help but laugh at that version of it. What's he doing out there?
Starting point is 00:17:06 How's he breathing? Yeah, very silly. At the end of our cold open, this guy showing up in all these spooky dreams. And when we come back, we get Paris waking up. And I was surprised to learn that Paris and Belana have not merged departments yet. I hate this. Paris, I'm looking straight at you in the camera. Tom, it's me.
Starting point is 00:17:31 It's your buddy. I really care a lot about you and your happiness. Yeah. You need to wait as long as possible. You've got to hold out. Right now, you've got the entire bed. You could starfish on that thing all night. That goes away the moment you start sleeping with a Klingon. A starfish is without honor in
Starting point is 00:17:54 Klingon culture. I was just thinking about it from her perspective though. Like he's got windows in his room. She doesn't. Yeah, to step up for her. She real. She moves in with him. She doesn't yeah to step up for her. She real she moves in with him Ensign wildman is gonna be jealous of her now. Well everyone moves up if BLT moves out, right? Oh Shit is probably a lot of pressure from below. I wonder if Ensign wildman then moves in to BLT's old quarters and is like She fucking moved out and I have to move into her shitty of birth. There's not even a window in here. Where's my kid get asleep? Fuck! I love the pocket protector look that BLT's rocking right now.
Starting point is 00:18:37 This is great. This is the introduction of the engineering jacket, which I may be wrong about this, but I think was introduced to conceal the fact that Roxanne Dawson was pregnant during this season. Correct. Yeah, the jacket is there to kind of cover up her belly a little bit. It's working a lot better than the Beverly Crusher cape during Gates McFadden's pregnancy, right?
Starting point is 00:19:03 Yeah. Because the dark uniform I think really helps. And it kind of makes sense that an engineer would have like a more technically oriented garment. The tools really draw your eye too. Yeah, they're good. Yeah, this is great. Paris isn't trouble though.
Starting point is 00:19:18 But not the sort of trouble I was expecting. He blew off breakfast. But BLT is really forgiving about this. Yeah, she understands. You think his balls are in the machine? They're not getting kicked. They're just in the machine. She's got a row of quarters up there on the top of the machine, but she's not putting
Starting point is 00:19:35 them in. What happens to you? I've slowed away. So they make plans for Friday night and this is the what's for dinner question that most couples go through. Is it cold weather or hot weather? It's like a Friday night vacation as date and this is something that I was very, very familiar with.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Like my wife is a very activity oriented vacationer and I'm a very like lie on a beach sippin' on jippers oriented vacationer. Same. And it's a source of disagreement, you know? Yeah. I don't want to do stuff. I just want to lie around. I want to have a jazz gummy, turn on a bad Harrison Ford movie from the 90s and pay
Starting point is 00:20:19 30% attention to it. Yeah, I want my hobby to be how much gummy and how much cocktail I can combine in myself and still function. And also just crush all the books I've been trying to finish. All the books, so many books at them. Every book. He wants that Tahiti, Fiji, beachy lifestyle. Oh no, no, it's her that wants that.
Starting point is 00:20:43 And he wants to go like skiing or whatever Do you think if you're Klingon you want to vacation in a place that reminds you of Stovacore? Like heat I mean Hot place is Stovacore hot or is it just shitty? But they want to go to Stovacore. Yeah, Stovacore is Klingon heaven. Yeah, so what's where's fecalar? This fecalar fuck around with Stovacore at Yeah, Stovocore is clean on heaven. Yeah, so what's where's feclar? This feclar fuck around with Stovocore at all. I don't know. I think to a lot of clean-ons they feel like feclar isn't a real thing. You know, it's just about power. Right. And systems. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:19 It's like scaring people into behaving well and it's like it should they need that. Yeah, that's what the honors for. Yeah. You know what? You either want to be honorable or you don't. And if you're treating me with honor just for some reward down the road, save it. I don't want to. Yeah, keep your fucking honor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Paris is like having gotten free of the ball kicking machine, he wanders into the mess hall and he is straight up bedraggled in there. And Nelix loads him up with some coffee. And no breakfast, no breakfast at all. Parris is keeping it tight. He's like, I'm doing an intermittent fasting thing, Nelix, so I don't want any calorie dense foods in my mouth right now. And Nelix is like, all right, man, well,
Starting point is 00:22:07 here's that cuppa, and Paris takes a big squig, and it's full of cooking oil. I watched this take over and over again, and I think it's great. Why does Nelix keep cooking oil in a picture? Is it a question I had. It seems very unsafe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I mean, it's more unsafe than it is disgusting, I think. Because if that oil is much hotter than what it is. Yeah. I mean, that's gonna be a real scorcher. Like, sotain the inside of Paris's mouth. Paris won't be going to Tahiti or on the ski trip. But the way he spits it back into his cup, I thought was big fun.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Yeah, it was great. Does he get a new cup or does Nielix dump the cup in the sink and then fill it back up with coffee? This is like a weird take on bulletproof coffee that is somehow more disgusting. Yeah, everybody on the bridge is pretty groggy. Nobody had a great night's sleep. And pretty, pretty soon, the topic of their dreams comes up there. Paris has discussed bad dreams with Nielix already.
Starting point is 00:23:19 But now the captain and Chicoetay and Tuvac and Paris are all talking about it. And it is very quickly that they all Reveal to each other that this one man Tim Maa was in the dream They have got to feel so fortunate that this alien and everyone's dream looks the way that they do Because if this is your typical nose ridge Star Trek alien, I think this flies by Conversationally without being picked up at all. So I had some kind of like loaf
Starting point is 00:23:48 and just general amounts on his face. Yeah, my dream too. Huh. That happens. Yep. We're on Star Trek. Harry has not shown up for work. And if I was having Harry's dream,
Starting point is 00:24:02 I probably wouldn't get up either. If I were having Harry's dream, I would be terrified of someone being able to enter my room while I was dreaming that dream. Because let me tell you something, that sequined blanket is going to be standing up like a tent. What time is it in Harry Kim's quarters? I don't know, shine a light on that sundial. Well, it looks like we've reached base camp. The captain and two-box do go down there and force his door open. And he has a sleep and not getting up. And this is a like turn to each other to commercial kind of moment.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Yeah, they got to get them to six bay and that is where the doctor has quite a few crew people on biobad saying that they're in hyper REM sleep. Yeah. That's when you put the REM record on the turntable at the wrong speed, right? They're a little too fast. right? Man, a little too fast. That's how it reveals that it's really a record with a message from Fechlar, right? Right. Did you feel tired watching this episode at any point?
Starting point is 00:25:16 You were a textick me about feeling tired during the day today and I was wondering if that was partly inspired by this episode, or if you just got shitty sleep for regular reasons. It's like that thing where you see someone yawning and it triggers a yawn in you. Yeah. There is no yawning in this episode also, which is curious. But it's curious.
Starting point is 00:25:38 It gave me that feeling throughout of really wanting to take a nap. The feeling our show often gives people when they listen to it. Yeah, that's why so many people listen to it to go to sleep. Uh-huh. I mean, it's especially here is that they're not yawning because the doctor orders people to try and avoid sleep because it seems like some people are falling all the way to sleep and can't be woken up.
Starting point is 00:26:01 He's tried everything. The doctor is so crazy here. He's like, look, I don't have a solution to this problem. I don't really even know what the problem is. But here's what I recommend for everyone, trucker speed. And he gestures toward a wall of just like single pill in package, crazy label and named named like $10 per pill. Somehow there's like
Starting point is 00:26:30 all Lexan walled in checkout booth in the corner of 6 Bay now. Yeah there's like a great emphasis on on the sexual potency of this also? Yeah, weird. So it keeps me awake and it increases manliness size. Huh. Cool. So everyone does their trekker speed and makes for the McLaughlin group. Is your wand. Later where the group kind of does a collaborative police
Starting point is 00:26:58 sketch on this alien. And this works so much better than you think it would. Yeah, really reminded me of the character designed part of Skyrim or similar yeah where they're kind of stretching his head out making his eyes further apart they keep talking about the ridges and I was like is nobody gonna bring up the fang on the chin that seems like the most notable part of this alien is the bony toothy looking thing coming off of their chin. That's bony. That bony flavor saver is disturbing to look at in profile, but on this picture he is an in profile. Yeah, so they don't need the bony toothy thing to identify him,
Starting point is 00:27:41 but when they get the picture dialed in, they're like, all right, so we're under attack in some way. We don't really know quite how. And Chicoote comes up with a kind of interesting idea, which is we gotta do a lucid dream. Somebody that knows their dreaming needs to go to sleep, make contact with this guy, figure out what the fuck he wants, and figure this thing out. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Is this the second episode in a row where Chico Te has made with the Atari DMT unit? And it's like, what I think we need to do is hit this device a little bit more. See what happens. Hey Chico Te, dependency can turn into addiction. I'd just be careful with that thing, okay? Hey, the last time we had a bunch of crew people use the Atari DMT one of them tried to transport themselves into a nebula medicine is thick medicine is heavy. Jucote is is down to play with some dangerous shit Sounds great. The dangers aren't ignored by the captain She's like well if you're gonna do this
Starting point is 00:28:43 I'd rather you do it in a controlled environment with the doctor who just prescribed trucker speed to everyone. And we get some of the rules, right? There's like inception, there's some rules to this. There's tap your hand three times to get out of the dream. There is the image of Earth's moon to remind you that you are in the dreams. If you see Earth's moon, that's your system telling you, hey buddy, you're dreaming, you're dreaming baby.
Starting point is 00:29:11 The EMH hates this plan. And he's running out of blankets for Harry Kim. Right. Yeah, I mean, imagine if Harry Kim had been one of the ones that woke up and not one of the ones that was stuck in sleep and he'd been like, oh, I'll do the lucid dream. Yeah. Me, me, me, put me in coach.
Starting point is 00:29:30 If I'm Harry Kim, I want you to request a bio bed with the arch. Oh, the groin area. Yeah, I'd probably get one too, just to be safe. You know how in your living will, you make a bunch of decisions about what to do if you're incapacitated? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Arche over the groin is something I want to write into my living will. Whatever choice is my wife makes about whether or not to pull the plug, give me the arch, please. The modesty arch. It's recorded and released publicly here. So this is like publishing it in a newspaper. Your request is official here by Great. Thank you So Chico Tay is chasing this deer around with the deer spear and
Starting point is 00:30:22 From corridor to corridor they go and the deer spear. And from corridor to corridor they go. And he finally chases it into the mess hall, probably more convenient to kill the deer in there so it can be dressed and cooked, right? Right. And get it on the cooktop before it even has time to go bad. That's what I'm saying. This is where he sees the moon. So he remembers. And the moon feels good. When it hits your eye like a big pizza pie That's something you wish Neelix was able to cook This deer doesn't stay deer for long because it quickly morphs into the alien from before and they start start track fighting I mean I kind of thought that this alien was gonna be tough as hell initially because it gets this spear out of the equation
Starting point is 00:31:04 Very quickly for a moment. I thought it would be me this alien who's gonna be tough as hell initially because it gets the spear out of the equation very quickly. For a moment I thought it would be me. Nope. It just goes from deer to alien. No gold in between. It's a shame really. I am very far away in a bucket at this moment in time. But Chicoce gets this guy's arm behind his back pinning him against a wall and he starts interrogating him. I'm in control. You're mistaken. Am I? But this guy's like, he's like, hey man, leave me alone. I'm fighting back for the dream world. You guys coming, this is our our domain. You you colonized, man. The backstory here flies at such a pace.
Starting point is 00:31:48 I was really impressed by it. You learned just about everything you needed to know about this alien and the relationship between them and the Voyager crew in like four sentences. Yeah. That was really well done. Dense. Turns out distance is gonna be the key key to solving their problem because Chico take
Starting point is 00:32:07 gets right to the heart of the matter. He's like, look, we've got Anton Kim with a giant erection over in six bay, and we really need to wake him up because getting past four hours and that's starting to be a concern. And he's like, oh yeah, I know what that's about. You just need to steer the ship into this specific system and that'll make you far enough away from us to where this effect we're having is going to go away. Because it seems like really reasonable, right? Like Chico J's like, we don't want smoke with you. Like we don't, we have no interest in invading your dream world. We are just passing through. But the spider never tells the bug like, oh yeah, dude, just get yourself out on that branch
Starting point is 00:32:46 and you'll be free for my web. Medieval! Like, there's something weird about how simplistic the solution to this problem is and how neutral this alien is about the entire idea of what they do. But it seems like there's a deal. So Chicote taps the back of his hand and he wakes up
Starting point is 00:33:03 and tells the captain like, okay, so like we got a plan, we just have to point the ship in a particular direction. I'll fill you in. And they head up to the bridge to make this happen. Because it's not that far, like they, it'll take them a day to get out of range of these bad aliens. Yeah, it's right around the corner.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Problem solved, we're out and that's the end of the episode, Adam. That's what feels so weird, right? Everyone's pre-celebrating band, Yeah, it's right around the corner. Problem solved, we're out, and that's the end of the episode, Adam. It feels so weird, right? Everyone's pre-celebrating, Ben, and you know pre-celebration can get someone pregnant. Fairly easily. Yeah. You can also get pregnant celebrating in a hot tub, and a lot of people don't realize that.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Way too early to count these chickens, because they arrive at the system, and the crew starts waking up in the 6 Bay Kim is Extremely hungry from his dreams. Yeah, he burned a lot of calories while he was down Yeah, he was down for 17 hours, which just sounds incredible. God couldn't you go for that? That's just sign me up. Where do I need to sign? Where's the Indicator? I never do this. I never do this. I'm going to be in Vegas and I'm going to be running on three hours of sleep every night. When, what I should be doing is on night
Starting point is 00:34:18 one, 17 hours of sleep. What better time could I have than to do it there? You got an opportunity and you're gonna squander it. Those curtains stay dark forever. They really do. Yeah. So they're flying toward this border, getting really close. There seems to be like a post-mission period of, boy, it wasn't that crazy happening in the mess hall, right? The first thing that I'm gonna do when I get back is to get some decent food.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Because Nielix and BLT you're talking about the Nightmare Nielix had and then Kim wanders in and he orders everything on the menu because he's had an erection to feed. One of each. Yeah. And Tuvac is there not really wanting to give up anything at all about what his nightmare was for. Yeah, they're like very curious about what a Vulcan nightmare is like, and he's like a Vulcan nightmare is spending 75 years on Voyager with only Ensen Forrick as another instance
Starting point is 00:35:21 of my species aboard. That is a great call. Yeah. They get interrupted by a. That is a great call. Yeah. They get interrupted by a banger and a big one. And when we get up to the bridge, I mean, it felt very much like the thing in a dream where you're being attacked and you try and fight back or defend yourself and you can't move your arms.
Starting point is 00:35:39 It's like the ship can't shoot. The torpedo bay isn't working. The phaser banks aren't working, the shield drop line, nothing fucking working here. When did Star Trek decide that approaching ship was always gonna be two o'clock to eight o'clock? That's always how they roll up. Yeah, well I think it might be partly to do with the fact
Starting point is 00:36:05 that they do maintain an eye line with somebody that's on FaceTime on the screen. So it's like if the camera is, is, you know, to the right hand side of the bridge, it looks like that because, like the sequence. Yeah, the screen is three dimensional. Right. You don't, you never think about it that way, but it is.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Yeah, that makes a ton of sense. 3D view screen. Guess who's on the screen? Guy with a big tooth coming out of his chin. That's bone. Yeah, chin tooth is there. I mean, that's not the most remarkable thing about him. He's won because the Voyager is crippled right now.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Did you say he's won? Looking a little bit pallid. Yeah. That's what I mean. Wow. That's won. Looking a little bit pallid. Yeah, that's what I mean. Wow, that's sad. Voyager can't do anything against this guy. Hey, if that guy played basketball against Commander Data, would that be won on one?
Starting point is 00:36:59 Yes, yes it would. All right, just checking. Should we continue? Yeah, let's keep doing the episode. I just wanted to check. I wanted to check up on that. I think it's important to get that straightened out before we go on. So, yeah, he's basically saying like everything's dampened and this was all just a ruse to get you here. And you're sort of going like, is this a dream, or is it not a dream at this point?
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah. And I mean, it seems like not a dream, because the planetary system that they've had it toward seems to have been exactly where this guy wanted them to go and therefore led them right into the trap. And suddenly there's like a dozen of these dudes on board the bridge and they all have the tooth at them.
Starting point is 00:37:47 That's bone. The tooth is the main thing about them. Yeah. It is shocking how quickly they get the jump on the voyage accrue here and it's so fast that Janeway can't even set auto-destruct. It's like Vadien fast. They run this ship and they move everybody down to Seven's cargo bay. This is another scene that lays bare how much they need the dead band switch for the
Starting point is 00:38:12 auto destruct, right? They really do. Janeway shouldn't have to whisper into the computer. Yeah, because it's already, it's just going to in the background. This, I saw as I don't say a key phrase. The computer won't self-destruct, and that key phrase is, I'm gonna run my finger along the foam on this microphone. Oh fuck, I just said it. That sucks. The dead man's which won't go off in it for another four minutes The key phrase is vegetable broth
Starting point is 00:38:59 As long as I drink two cups of vegetable broth every four hours the ship won't explode So they need to see if they can take the ship back and Seven of Nine's idea has all started distraction. Well a couple of other people go see if they can get a jeffries to open and Chikotia and BLT see if they can mess with main power and So Seven of Nine jumps Harry came into a fist fight and Harry is not quick on the uptake with this. Well, he was expecting a different kind of pumbling, I think. Yeah He had a little bit of recency bias going with what his relationship with 7 was going to be But while this distraction is happening plt and chicote go over to mess with the power and when they pull the The cover off of a panel in the wall chicote sees earth's moon in the panel
Starting point is 00:39:54 Yeah, that's now where that goes. So it's like fuck we're still sleeping and I love this because two of the two of the guards come and like grab his two arms and like try and keep him from telling the back of his hand. I got what they know that that's his thing. I thought it was just that they were grabbing him and his arms were the thing that they grabbed. Do you think that was intentional? I don't know. It seemed like they were trying to stop him from waking himself up. Yeah. But he does. He manages to touch hands. Yeah. And it seems like it really
Starting point is 00:40:27 works this time. Yeah. There he finds the dock and the dock is like bad news. I'm the only one still awake. Everyone's asleep and it's been 39 hours that you've been out. A long time. 39 hours of sleep. Imagine Adam. Chicoate is like, hold that, that. I am terrifically hungry. I'm gonna go down to the best hall. You would not believe how badly I need to piss. That should be it, like the take should be smell. He comes to and he's like, oh.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Oh. Are you gonna have to replace this bio bed? It is soaked! I like that a rubber belt ran just has his character kind of idly tapping the back of his hand for the rest of this episode, like checking every so often to make sure. The doc is like, look everyone's asleep but what's more is I've scanned their brains. And wouldn't you know it? All of these brain scans match up. What does it mean?
Starting point is 00:41:32 Well, what it means is they're in the same dream. It's the dream that Chicote just came from. The dreams have merged. They're all in like one shared simulation. And it's because of this neurogenic field. And so the key to figuring out what's causing this is to find where some neurogenic fields are coming from. That's not something they were scanning for before.
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Starting point is 00:43:58 We would love to be on the boats. We came two by two. What do you think? Ono Ross and Carrie, available on MaximumFun and Outdoor. I've got to get that black wood knife. Are you setting a nice tone? Go. Back in the dream world, PLT's like, you'll never believe what happened. Me and Shukote were working on a panel, and then he said something about a moon, and then he disappeared.
Starting point is 00:44:21 And they're like, you think it was just, it was just a ruse, he was going to try and show you his butt? And so they quickly come to the same conclusion that they're in a shared dream on that end, on the dream's end and Kim's like, yeah, it's a good idea, we're not in my dream. And that's all the detail I'm gonna give you. Yeah, two bucks, same way.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Yeah. Neelix, I like taking the kind of solipsistic argument, All the detail I'm going to give you. Yeah, two box same way. Nielux, I like taking the kind of solipsistic argument. Like, maybe you're all in my dream. Maybe that's what's going on. Yeah. None of you have agency, but I do. Seven gives this a fun name, collective unconsciousness, which is kind of an analog to the collective consciousness
Starting point is 00:45:02 we're familiar with from the Borgs. Yes. So while they're figuring that out in the dream world, Chico Te and the doctor are going to like work toward solving this in the non-dream world. And they actually hone in on a signal about a light year away that's a neurogenic field projector of some kind. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:26 And so they head toward it. They get a tight little group here. They got two VAC, they've got BLT, and they've got Janeway, and they've got to make their way to engineering. But two VACs got to go to webs. We've got to have webs, he's the key. They need to be armed for this. It's unclear like why this phaser would work when the others didn't in this dream world.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Like, exactly. I don't really know why they wanted to do that, but he gets it and then they should be using deer spears. Yeah. The captain and BLT are working on getting the warp core back up and running. And it does seem like they sort of like go in and out of believing that they're in a dream world. At this point, like, it's a working theory,
Starting point is 00:46:07 but they haven't really seen any evidence to corroborate it aside from Chico Te tapping himself on the hand three times and disappearing. I like that they're kind of going back and forth between whether or not they fully believe this or not. I really think that helps. As a viewer, if they immediately flip the switch in their minds and they're like, this is just a dream and we can do anything
Starting point is 00:46:30 and we're impervious to being killed right away for the last 20 minutes of the episode, I think it's a lot less fun. Yeah, because it keeps you guessing like when they get the warp core up and running and then it's like a runaway reaction and they have to evacuate engineering or like, oh dude yeah and then the captain like walks up and like gives the warp core a great big hug when it goes nuclear. There's coffee and antimatter explosions and she's just fine. She doesn't even have fallen Samurai hair. Her hair isn't even must from an exploded warp core right in front of her. She is looking great.
Starting point is 00:47:07 But this confirms the suspicion, right? This is what they needed to do to know for sure this was dream. Yeah. There was one shot in this sequence that I thought was really amazing, which is Tuvac and BLT running out of engineering. The camera follows them to the back wall as they catch their breath. You get the banger of the explosion and then the camera pans back and the door opens again and it was like that room was full of smoke when they ran out of it. And somehow they evacuated all of the smoke from the room
Starting point is 00:47:38 for when it opens back up again in one continuous shot. It was really cool. Yeah, I mean in a sequence like that also serves the dream logic of the story. Things just don't fit together logically. Yeah, so this is the proof that Janeway needs and she's like, yeah, like I rolled the dice and I won big.
Starting point is 00:48:00 We are in a dream world, so we know we're not gonna be killed by dream weapons. And that's when the captain and the doc go find Chicoetay on the bridge. And Chicoetay's like, how are you up? And she's like, well, like I proved to myself that it was a dream, and that's how I woke myself up. And it's great news. This is almost the second end to the episode out of three. Yeah, this is when
Starting point is 00:48:26 Chicoce looks up at the view screen and the doc is like waking everybody else up on the on the bridge, but the view screen has Earth's moon on it. They're home, Adam! Series over! I wonder if they ever played with that being what the dream was. Because that is a really traumatic kind of foundation to it, is if not only are they being assaulted by aliens in a dream, but it's also within the construction of that kind of hope. Right, making them think they got the thing they want most. This he is able to wake himself up from again But when he wakes up the doc is like dude like we are really close to this neurogenic field
Starting point is 00:49:11 And it's really running you through the ringer So you're gonna have to fight to stay awake now. You're gonna have to drive straight from Wyoming all the way through Salt Lake all the way through salt lake, on into Fresno, without stopping. So I'm gonna give you the big pills. Yeah. You're gonna wanna crunch them up with like the in-cab fire extinguisher into a powder and then take those things to the dome.
Starting point is 00:49:39 This is the kind of trucker no does that like a 7-o'-l-hiffin will get shut down by the federal government for sale. Right. It's the sort of trucker and no-dos that like a 7-o-liphon will get shut down by the federal government for so. It's the sorta trucker speed that makes you eat someone in Florida. So Jakota he beams down to this planet and he's in some Star Trek games and he finds a big room where all of these tooth chin aliens, that's bone, are just a sleep, they're wearing like civilian clothes and they're just a sleep on the floor together with no blanket, no nothing.
Starting point is 00:50:16 This scene suffers from the effects of its time. Yeah. But as a construction, I thought it was awesome looking and scary. I mean, the effects aren't bad. They're just like, they can do as much as they can do, you know? Chico Tay walks in and he's like, oh, oh, God. Oh, that is nasty. They're all pissing themselves.
Starting point is 00:50:39 He's like slush, slush, slashing his boots through the Star Trek cave. So as he is making this discovery, Janeway is confronting the one alien that's had speaking lines in the dream world about what's going on and she proves to him that they know that his weapons can't hurt them. So she barges into the hanger and tells everybody like, hey, still a dream, we just need to keep that in mind. And the guys like, well, not so fast, Captain, you've failed to calculate one thing. You're still dreaming. I control the vertical and the horizontal. Right. Your bodies are probably pissing themselves as we speak, and I know from
Starting point is 00:51:28 pissing myself. You're slowly being fused to the bio bed. Where you're sleeping. And the source have started to appear. Yeah. It's too much work for the doctor to sponge bathe everyone. Right. She's not going to happen. Yeah, you can't go around checking that many IV bags. Did you think for a moment, why didn't Chico take consider, like Ripley and Aliens, just fucking burning everyone in that cave?
Starting point is 00:51:57 I know he's a good man and he's not supposed to do that, but that solves the problem. It would solve the problem. I mean, he can't. Or maybe he turns them face down. Yeah. Give them an honorable sleep. Kill them with kindness.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Yeah. Yeah. They never glimpse someone like him. That would be a super fun callback. He walks into that cave and he's horrified that the memesis has buried them all face up. Team leader, bro, fourth board defense contingent. The generator is like shielded,
Starting point is 00:52:27 so he can't do anything about it with the equipment that he has there. And that's no good. So he comes up with the dead man switch that the Voyager should have had the entire time, which is, I'm gonna try and like wake one of these guys up with my hyposprae and Doc, you get up to the bridge and if you don't hear from me in 5 minutes, nuke them from orbit.
Starting point is 00:52:47 I love this idea. The Doc hates it, but I love it. I was wondering if the EMH could even do this. Like, wouldn't it override his programming to fire a weapon, killing a massive number of people? Yeah, that does seem to be against his oath as a doctor. It also seems like there should be authentication required to fire a torpedo aboard a starship, right? You can't even shoot a Dupada mashed potatoes without an alarm going off.
Starting point is 00:53:16 They think the docs just going to step right up to webs and shoot a torp. One of the few remaining torps they've got left. I do imagine. Yeah. So Chico Tei wakes one of these guys up and he's like really getting super sleepy at this point. But he explains to this dude that, yeah, like, like I'm a hostage, you're a hostage,
Starting point is 00:53:38 we're all hostages. But then he falls asleep. So brutal. Oh, this is agonizing. But he falls asleep into the dreams. So he's able to tell it to the boss guy too. Yeah, but weren't you like, oh man, like he drops the phaser and everything.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Oh, I hated this moment. Yeah, I made it stuff, but I mean, these guys are fucked one way or the other. And it's fucked and Chico Tay's favorite, right? The threat of the torpedo torpedo is enough to persuade them and we don't even see any of the like stand down. We don't see the people waking up. We don't see the guy with the floor squeegee
Starting point is 00:54:15 walking around Voyager. Right, yeah. Moving everything toward the drain. Ensign has, Matt. Yeah. Fuck it's 75-year mission and I'm gonna do this shit the entire time. Fuck it assholes.
Starting point is 00:54:27 No upward mobility on this ship. Team up with that guy, you're, he had upward mobility. Yeah, wonder what ever it happened to him. So he just didn't show up for work one day. So yeah, the symptom that everybody's suffering from now is insomnia. And our button on the episode is a bunch of people goofing around in Neelix's restaurant, burning the midnight oil because they just can't get to sleep. This scene had a quality of what it can be like after a show for us.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Like, it is super late. We find some kind of diner to get the last meal in. We're super tired, but happy that we just succeeded in our mission. Yeah. And it's that kind of eye. Or failed, sometimes we fail. Sure, I mean, we probably mostly failed.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Tell you what, what isn't going to be a failure. Diner food, one in the morning. Oh, that shit always hits. Yeah. I like seeing what everyone sleeps in. Yeah. DuVoc sleepwear, not super different from what he puts onto a celebrate pricksin' I will say.
Starting point is 00:55:36 I mean, that's part of what makes the image of him totally naked, so jarring, right? You usually see the uniform go all the way up his neck. Right, Yeah. No matter what he's wearing. This time it's like he's in a Renaissance painting and his dick just follows you all over the room. It's subtle. That's why I found museum going in Europe so titillating.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Did you like this episode Adam? You know, I'm maybe even to get along with most of the time. But I don't like bullets, I don't like friends, and I don't like you. I just do. I love a Twilight Zone episode of Star Trek, and this felt like that, right? This felt like something written for another series
Starting point is 00:56:18 that just worked comparably with Voyager. Uh-huh, yeah. In that way. And it was like creepy in a fun way. I feel like creepy is more difficult to write than horror. And I thought that sustained creepy feeling nicely pervaded the whole thing. Yeah, it was tense.
Starting point is 00:56:39 And I love just the fear of not knowing if you're awake ever. That really taps into some deep-seated primal fear of what if you're just trapped in successive dream layers. You've got to be super careful as a show runner on a show like this, not to have too many oops were still in the simulation moments throughout the course of a season. Because you can break your show.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Yeah, nobody will believe anything is happening for real if you do it too often. And I thought this episode really succeeded in like, not feeling like a holodeck episode that plays with the same kind of fear. But yeah, I thought it was a lot of fun. Have you ever lucidly dreamed? I, for a long time, only lucidly dreamed.
Starting point is 00:57:29 And I haven't. That sounds so tiring. I haven't remembered my dreams as much lately, but like in my 20s, like I would go to sleep and just reliably, like be in my own, like, world of my own making. Didn't you feel tired when you woke up? I don't want that.
Starting point is 00:57:44 I liked it. I liked it a lot. I want infinite darkness. I don't want to do anything when I'm dreaming. All right man, well you don't have to. I haven't been able to do that. Like there was a time when I tried. I feel like a lot of people try in college. You hear about it for the first time, and you're like, hey, yeah, I'm gonna be the one that lucidly dreams. Yeah. That wasn't me. I mean, the fun thing about it is that like, while you have your consciousness
Starting point is 00:58:14 and you are like manipulating events, you're still like a fucking idiot when you're lucidly dreaming. You're still the same, dummy. Like, I would always be like, this is such a cool scenario that I have dreamt up. I'm gonna wake up and write this down and then I'll write it into a script or something.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I'll like make it into a real story. And I would wake up in my half-awake state, jot down notes about what I had dreamed, and then read it like six hours later. I'd be like, this is fucking dumb as fuck. That's great. That's perfect. You know what else is often perfect, Adam? Is the contents of our P1 inbox?
Starting point is 00:58:51 Oh yeah, perfect from now on. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. You need a supplement on top. supplement on top? supplement. supplement. Yeah, it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Then our first priority one message is of a promotional nature. Hmm. That message goes like this. On the Spies Like Us podcast, we discuss all kinds of spy movies and TV from the realistic to the ridiculous. Wow. We recently released an episode on the Rogue One Star Wars movie which was exciting for us because it is so rare
Starting point is 00:59:30 that spy stories come up in a science fiction package. We are also covering the Andor TV series on a weekly basis. Do you know what that is? Oh, is that based on the Rogue One characters? Oh, maybe. I don't know. Our Garek episodes from 2020 were popular with friends of DeSoto, and we hope you will enjoy our analysis of the Spycraft of the Star Wars universe as well.
Starting point is 00:59:55 So, the bottom line here is catch this and much more at spieslikeus.net or search SpiesLikeUs podcast on the app you were using right now. I love the name, I love the premise, I'm gonna check it out. I love the SpiesLikeUs movie and I like that they took that and made a part of their title. I do too. I also really liked Rogue One. Go check out the SpiesLikeUs Podcast.
Starting point is 01:00:22 I think this is a repeat P1 for them. Yeah. Yeah. Well it must be working if they came back to the P1 well. I hope people will check it out. Yeah. Adam our next P1 is of a personal nature. It's from greasy, dick sack munchers everywhere.
Starting point is 01:00:37 And it's to Adam and Ben if he cares. You really gave that the anchor man reading the telepropter spin. Like, that was so professionally read. Next up, Greasy Dick Sack Munchers Everywhere. The message goes like this, Northwest native FODs may have listened to your discussion of the not quite best fries in LA in the episode, not totally unwan.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Wondering, some version of this question, does your tepid reception of those slightly soggy fries imply that you are not a fan of Seattle's famously flaccid dick-stelecacies? Your hometown homies need to know. Hey, I just before answering the question, I just want to say the alliteration in this P1 is great. It's a nice. And I've, uh, I've munched a greasy sack of Dix plenty of times. It's a place I enjoy going to when I'm in Seattle. So I feel qualified to respond to this question too, but I think it's mostly
Starting point is 01:01:42 pitched at you, Adam. I mean, I'm with you, Ben. The Dix French fries are great, and I love them. Yeah. I think they're amazing. I'm a big fan, but here's the thing. The best fries in Seattle belong to Burger Master. Wow. That is my thinking. Searing hot take. I kind of believe that's the correct answer. Yeah, I love dick so much, but Burger Master really slaps. And I got a banana milkshake at Burger Master one time that was pretty fucking transcendental. I think about it once a week. I had a birthday cake shake the last time I was there, which was like their seasonal.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Wow. And boy oh boy. That was one of those late lunches where you don't eat dinner after you just You're full for an entire day. Yeah. Yeah good stuff Seattle very strong low-cost burger game. Yeah Among American cities really miss those spots damn. Yeah Ben our final priority one message is from Adam in SF and it is to Adam and Ben. That message goes like this.
Starting point is 01:02:48 A year ago, when I scrolled past the episode title, my neck, my back, my reproductive sack, and root to the F I was at, I lost my shit. I sworn oath to pay my debt when I caught up to that F. So, here are your scarves. Ben, I really do think that that's, when the whole thing is done, when our whole, great disgeneration experiment is over,
Starting point is 01:03:15 we should do a what are the best episode titles of the entire run. Yeah, the Shimoda Awards for the show. Yeah, I really feel like that's on the Mount title more. That was really great work. The message concludes now, please play all of Adam's homegrown songs. Oh, no. Or at least Ben's going to talk about Africa.
Starting point is 01:04:07 about Africa. into a lay flat seat for sleep salvation. He clears customs with a carnail, hoping to film some fun, exotic worlds are eaten the rawest meat. He returns and cannot wait to say, boy oh boy, I've got stories for you It doesn't take a lot to give it to you Is there the better love more than to tell you? Ben's gonna talk about Africa He's gonna take some time to tell you things you never asked
Starting point is 01:04:52 And bring back Captain Potter I don't want to bring back Captain Potter I just want people to go to Maximum Funda and Aug Slash Jumbo Tron and book a P1 now! No, no, no, no, no, no! Oh! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 01:05:11 Oh! Oh! Hey, Ben. What's that, Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? DRAG Shimoda! I did. I wrote down some time code for this.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Ooh, it's about 23 minutes and 20 seconds into the episode or so. You see these two people in the six bay. This is the right when Harry Kim is woken up from his 17 hours of sleep, making up with seven of nine, and he's kind of sliding past seven of nine in the doctor to go get something to eat.
Starting point is 01:05:50 And there's two like civilians in Six Bay. Uh-huh. Just wearing like clothes that look like they were, you know, like they look like they were just like extras that they pulled off of the set of Frazier and were like, stand at the background of this thing in Star Trek. How often do you see pink?
Starting point is 01:06:07 Yeah. There's a lady back there wearing these sort of pink suit that you'd see at a church service. Right, and I was just like, who are these civilians that they have on board? What are they doing? Why are they in Six Bay? I want to know their whole deal.
Starting point is 01:06:23 So those two people are my drunk charmota for this episode because I kept thinking about them the whole time. I'm looking at Garrett Wong in the scene and I'm thinking, is that the most comfortable thing you've ever worn in a scene? Oh man, that was really good. Pajama's on set, hell yeah. Yeah, gotta yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Gotta be. You'll love picking up your sides for next week's shoot and finding out you're gonna spend a lot of it just napping on a biobad. Yeah. Yeah. How about you, did you have a drunk Shimoda? I think Chico Te is continued interest
Starting point is 01:07:01 in doing psychedelics for now two episodes in a row. Has he has my attention now. Wow. What are you doing, man? Trying to make your drug taking hobbies and interest of everyone else? I don't know, dude. Maybe start coming up with a different solution to your problems. Maybe so.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Got me a little worried, so I'm going to give it to Chicote. Maybe that's solving things the way you think it is. Objection noted, we'll do this without you. Do it. Do it. Do it. Well, Adam, why don't you head over to Gach that Biz Slash game while I tell you about Season 4, episode 14, Message in a bottle. When Voyager discovers an ancient communications relay that extends
Starting point is 01:07:48 to the Alpha Quadrant, they send the doctor to an experimental federation ship, the Prometheus. What? Yeah. Sounds like an unusual episode. It is a famous and weird episode. Is it famous? Got Andy Dick in it, Adam. Oh, wow. Is this the episode that's finally gonna end our show? We're mad at you for having even acknowledged the existence of that episode. Yeah, this is going to be more trouble for us than the upcoming Jeffrey Epstein episode. What was Tuvak even doing on his shuttle? Then our shuttle is currently on square 25 of the game of buttholes.
Starting point is 01:08:38 We'll look the caretaker. Couple squares ahead. We've got the naked now app, which I really, really, really don't want to hit. A-a-three would get us there. Nothing else can hurt us. I'm just going to close my eyes and roll these dice. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. I want to have more luck in Vegas than here, like, but if I had to trade luck,
Starting point is 01:09:06 I would take more luck on this roll. Wow. That's how much I don't want to get back into that fucking tub. Oh God, I rolled a six. Shula! Did I win? Hardly. Oh boy, that was, that felt exactly like like getting a little too loose with the chips and placing
Starting point is 01:09:30 a big bet and kind of getting away with one there. Wow. Wow. It felt more like surviving than winning, rolling that six. It puts us on square 31. It's a regular old episode, Ben. And I think we're going to want to talk about the Andy Dick character soberly and carefully, right? I think so. Yeah. We definitely don't want to misspeak when it comes to the topic of Andy Dick.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Right. We want people to know exactly how we feel about that guy. Mm-hmm. Very positive and uncomplicated. You know what gives me a positive feeling every week is the fact that we get to do this show as our job. And the only way that's a job is through the support that we get at Maximumfund.org slash join. Give yourself a great feeling by supporting the thing that you like listening to by chipping in every month. It really makes a difference. It feels like getting a little loose with the chips in Vegas and taking a real risky bet and having it pay off. Yeah, I sure appreciate it too.
Starting point is 01:10:30 You know, I'm getting ready to take some paternity leave, but that should be basically imperceptible to the friends of DeSoto because we've been able to work really hard at recording tons and tons of stuff ahead of time and getting a big runway built for our show so that we can still deliver weekly episodes to everyone. And that is only made possible by listener support and by our producer Wendy Pretty who figured out exactly how much we need to record and when we need to record it. And she figured out the right time for you and your wife to have a baby and then made that schedule work.
Starting point is 01:11:10 She told us when, I mean, she did kind of fuck up with the timing of Star Trek Las Vegas, but she was new on the job when she started that process. So yeah, I mean, she can be forgiven for that. But anyways, I just wanted to say like how grateful I am to all the friends in the Soto. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know.
Starting point is 01:11:28 She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know.
Starting point is 01:11:36 She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know.
Starting point is 01:11:44 She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn. She didn't be possible without you. And Adam really appreciates getting the downtime too. He gets paternity leave by proxy. It is great for me. I'm very much looking forward to it. I mean without the support Ben, you'd be unable to bond with your new child. And that would be tragic. Yeah, you don't want that. These people don't want me to not be able to bond with my child. You don't want your kid resentful of all that time. You spent away from the family recording your dumb Star Trek podcast. No.
Starting point is 01:12:11 That's how kids end up hating their parents. Yeah. I hate you, dad. That kid would grow up to become a Star Wars fan. Huh. Huh. Huh. Where were you when I needed you?
Starting point is 01:12:24 You were in your fucking office talking to that idiot. No son of mine puts on a boba fed helmet. Not in this house. And the cats in the cradle in the soup. Let's prove. We also got to thank the Card Daddy Bill Tilly who runs our social media accounts at Greatest Track on Instagram and Twitter. Give those a follow, lots of fun.
Starting point is 01:12:53 We got to thank Adam Ragusia, who made our original theme music and Dark Materia, who made the Picard song and let us use it all those years ago. We got to thank Nick Dittmore who made our artwork and you know encourage everybody to go get involved in a community of friends of DeSoto online. They're everywhere. Yeah, they're also going to be at Star Trek Las Vegas and I just want to encourage everyone who's out there to be really cool to other people out there. It's one of the reliably fun gatherings for friends of DeSoto and other Star Trek fans out there.
Starting point is 01:13:30 I'm gonna try to put together an event where we can all hang out. Yeah, keep an eye on the social media account for news on that and definitely go up to Adam and say hi if you see him. Yeah, put on your greatest GEN shirts. Represent the brand. Yeah. Be on your greatest Jhin shirts. Represent the brand. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Be on your best behavior, but not too good. With that, we will be back at you next week with potentially the last episode of the greatest generation. I mean, we're going to keep recording him because we won't know how much trouble we're in until it comes out. But I'm glad I'm going to be at Star Trek Las Vegas before this episode comes out, but I'm glad I'm gonna be at Star Trek Las Vegas before this episode comes out Instead of run out of town on a rail
Starting point is 01:14:12 Up on the up on the panel and the dick Welcome to the stage at STLV Not the worst person they've had panel at the LP, over the years, I'd show. Maximumfund.org Comedy and Culture Artist Oat. Audience supported.

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