The Greatest Generation - Unscrupulous Colonic Irrigator (VOY S4E3)

Episode Date: June 13, 2022

When the Day of Honor turns into the worst day of BLT‘s life, it takes a brush with death for her to be honest with herself and Tom Paris. But when the Caatati escalate from late-night charity commercial to armed robbery, Seven offers an unexpectedly human solution to their predicament. Is it mostly blood in the blood pie? Does oxygen deprivation cause romantic feelings? Why aren't there more Alan Altshuld types? It’s the episode that’s not done hazing Seven of Nine. Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is now regularly streaming on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!

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Welcome to the greatest generation to Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Adam Pranika Ben Harrison and I'm very tired Adam Why are you tired, Ben? You know when you're not eating right and you go poop and it's like little pellets instead of a nice clean. God, you're so disgusting. You know that? That's the kind of sleep I'm getting lately. You're asking me if I know of pellet poop? Yeah, I do. I know of all kinds of poop. I know about poop you couldn't even imagine. You don't even have the imagination to know the poops

that I've known over the years. So yeah, Ben, I know about pellet poops. I did a cleanse one time. I've seen some stuff. Yeah. Uh. I got a colonic irrigation like I wanna say 15 ago, and fucking pennies came out of me. Vernon been trying to find those pennies for nine months.

pennies and toothpicks and like all sorts of things. Wow. Yeah. That is startling. No gum. You hear it's gonna be gum, right? Like you'll never digest gum. I digest gum great. right? Like you'll never digest gum. I digest gum great. Do you think that the the colonic people like throw a couple odds and ends in the in the line when they're going to start jetting you so that it looks like you really got something done today? Wouldn't that be great if you had an unscrupulous colonic irrigator? You would totally want to drop something in the hopper that's fun, right? Hey, look at this. My little pony from 1986.

You're not going to believe this, but there is a whole undigested orange. Hey, do you remember micro machines? I mean, usually we only get these going in the other way, but there's a fucking whisk in there. How is this gerbil still alive? Yeah, man, that would be fun. Yeah. Probably no bits on people getting colonics. Yeah. It's probably not a very, very fun industry for bits if you're interested in that. We're recording this right before our trip to Austin for the double dumbass tour. And, uh, boy, I cannot wait for hotel room sleep, man.

I just, we have, we have a little work going on at the house, like some stuff getting fixed, and the construction company that we hired has crew people that start at seven and crew people that start at eight. I mean, never know, like, who's coming, which day, and sometimes it's like seven a.m. Like somebody's calling, like, hey, the car needs to be out of the driveway because, like, stuff is getting dropped off there. And I have to, like, you have to find my glasses in the dark room and go out there.

And I trap my sleep on my fitness tracker watch. And it's just like, it's pellets. It's not one continuous bar of sleep. So even if I get a nice seven and a half hours, it's seven and a half hours broken up into like 25 little pellets. You're getting pellet sleep, huh? I'm like agitated sleeping because I'm worried

that I'm gonna get woken up because I know that I will, in fact, get woken up. Gotta get in that hotel room. Yeah, you get that sleep anxiety, don't you? Yeah, sucks. It's real old man shit to be looking forward to a fun tour stop for the sleep aspect. Instead of all the fun that Austin has to offer, and it's a lot.

Yeah. I mean, I plan on barely sleeping at all in Austin. I need to, I need to cut loose. I'm gonna get the fuck out. We're gonna have very different trips to Austin, my friend. We're gonna have very different trips to Austin, my friend. Yeah, I think I need sleep as much as you do, but I also just need to cut the fuck loose. Ready to really, uh, to file myself out there. Wow. All right. I just want all the slushy beverages and beef.

And then you know who's gonna be making the pebble poops, Ben. Yeah. Both of us. Yeah, I'm going to join the club. Yeah. Well, do you want to join the club much like Seven Does with the crew of the ship on today's episode of Star Trek Voyager? I think she's got a little more hazing to endure before that ever happens, Ben. Why not get that started with Star Trek Voyager season four, episode three, day of honor?

Reaver course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo tubes, I'm not turning around. This establishing shot suggests that there is a passage of time happening in the shuttle bay. The shuttle bay now is not just an alcove space. It's a shared space like Milton in office space being told to work out of a storage room. Yeah. That is what Seven of Nine is made to and do her starting now.

Yeah, she's on her charging mat, but they've moved lots of barrels and crap back into the storage bay here. And she has summoned Commander Chico Tay down to her room. Sounds great. Because she is bored as hell and she makes the case in an interesting way. Being lonely is one thing for y'all, but it's a whole other thing for someone like me. I'm finding it difficult to spend so much time alone.

You know what I noticed in this scene? Hmm. I was looking for a long time at Seven of Nine's chest. But as a scientist, like as a Star Trek podcaster, as a professional Star Trek podcaster. Not in a horny way. Not in a horny way at all. You want to know why? Hmm. I don't think seven of nine can cow-hudson her combat. I think she is limited in where she puts her combat. Right. Because of the the cat suit and it's too bad. That sounds about right.

If she put it any lower, it would be on her boob. Is what you're saying. It would be tilted. The points would be facing the person she's talking to and you can't have that. I mean, that's a different sort of power move. That's not the Cal Hudson. It's something else entirely.

Yeah, it's like the poke your eyes out. Combeds. That would make four things that would poke your eyes out on seven of nine at this point. Oh boy oh boy, Adam, I want better for her. That's what my point is. I wanted a Cal Hudson or have the choice to. I think the final way to do it, that's not so obvious. You know, right now, Adam, he's had herself determination stolen from her by the board

collective. And Captain Janeway is going to make decisions for her until such time as she's satisfied that seven of nine has reintegrated into human society enough that she is living a self-determined lifestyle. And then I'm sure she will pick out some new clothes for herself, but this is not that day, but Chicote is gonna pick a job for her. He seems a menopul anyway.

She doesn't just shut this down out of hand. She's bored, that's her problem. She wants something to do. Yeah. Did you have something specific in mind? She's counted all of the cargo containers enough times. Yeah. Meanwhile in engineering, a case is being made for a team

that may need some extra set to hands. Engine VORIC is letting stuff spray out of some coolant connection or whatever. BLT's getting super mad at him. Yeah, I mean that little valve isn't the only thing getting busted. Because those nuts are getting smashed by BLT in the scene. A very testy BLT. Not today, Vorik. Yeah, she's really not in a mood for any of this shit. And she explains that in a little bit more detail

of the Tom Paris who comes down and is like, hey, so obscure, clean on ritual. What do you say? And she's like, I know I said that I would try it before, but the closer we get to doing the deed, the less into it, I feel. I think I was confused by this scene because I thought he was strolling in to see if she was doing Klingon stuff or if they were on for dinner. But are you saying that their dinner plan was Klingon Day of Honor ritual?

dinner plan was, click on Day of Honor ritual? I'm not sure if they like were meant to coincide, but there's like later in the episode, he also mentions that he like worked on helping her set up the holodeck program. So I think that he is expecting to at least, at least observe if not participate in Day of Honor stuff. I mean, he should save room for targ, right? Yeah, exactly. He doesn't want to have to eat before. Right.

I mean, what you want to do ahead of a date like this is definitely fuck before. Yeah. And then fill up on Taric. Uh huh. And then get yourself painsticked. Right. You think you'd sleep a lot better if you'd been painsticked 30 times beforehand? Uh, I probably, yeah.

That would probably fuse some of those pebbles together. Yeah. You're making log. Yeah. After getting painstaked, that's for sure. Pebbles, best kind of ice, worst kind of poop, worst kind of sleep. Yeah. Yeah.

I was surprised to see Vorik. And if I'm BLT, probably keeping a safe distance, right? Who'd you rather work with if you were BLT? Vorick or Seven of Nine? Why didn't Vorick get moved on to like, I don't know, a different team? You know BLT has the shit talk in her because she shit talks the hell out of Seven of Nine later?

No shit talk to be given to Vorick, even though he is very deserving of it. Yeah, yeah. What she explains to Paris is she's had a run of bad luck. And by the transit of property, she's not in a sentimental frame of mind. So she's not going to do this Klingon ritual. I am in a bad mood and I know that I am being a little bit testy. Time Paris is like, well, at least you're going to get dinner with me, right?

If you're not going dinner with me, right? If you're not gonna get targ on the holodeck, maybe we can get targ at neelix's This is when chacote comes in to continue that run of bad luck by ordering BLT to make Seven of nine her problem. She wants to work in engineering. Yeah. What? Very much reminded me of a little forage going to Picard about not wanting to deal with Barclay's bullshit. I really like the good guy warning the Paris gives Chicoate as they pass. Hey buddy, cover those nuts. Chicoate just grabs an iPad from a room control station and holds it over. I mean Chico Tejas grabs an iPad from a room control station and holds it over.

I mean, Chico Tejas really come around on this seven and I thing. He was the chief skeptic, not that long ago. And now he's here to foister on BLT who I would say, like this is a work request being made by a managerial figure on a subordinate, and BLT has got a lot of lip about this. She really does. Bottom line is, I don't want her working in engineering. She really forgets herself in the way she talks up to the boss. I mean, as she always had this kind of lip latitude, I don't think so.

Chico Tei really has to remind her. The bottom line is, I'm giving you an order and you're going to follow it. Lieutenant. With Chicoote, she does often get a little lippier than, I mean, Janeway does not catch this kind of guff from BLT. Yeah, I mean, this is a very efficient pipe down that Chicoote gives her in this moment.

Yeah, it's one of those like I shouldn't have to pull rank and just by saying that you shouldn't have to pull rank, you've pulled rank. He's like, the bottom of your badge is not pointing at my eyes. So you're not going to distract me like that. I don't need this iPad over my junk. I shouldn't have to worry about this. Whatever you say, sir.

After the title sequence, seven of nine is in the captain's ready room being told, like, listen, we're not going to leave a security detail on you, even though we should. But when you go to work with the engineering team, we want Scouts honor that you're not going to try and contact the Borgs again. I take Scouts honor so seriously that I will not be posting security in engineering while you do work there. How many boy scouts have you assimilated as a member of the Borg? This is crazy, right?

No security? Here's the thing. Even if she chooses not to post security in engineering, she doesn't have to say it. Because by calling attention to this decision, I think it makes her look foolish and bad and too trusting. I know the episode wants you to be inspired by Janeway's trust because it's all about this relationship between her and Seven of Nine. But it does not start out as a good look. I would say. You remember that whole series of episodes where Tom Paris was acting like a fucking dickhead in order to like build plausibility for him going off the ship eventually?

Uh huh. I feel like Janeway may be playing chess here. The shit's chess, it ain't checkers. Like maybe she is telling seven that there's no security, because in fact, there is security and there's going to be somebody watching her at all times and she wants to see what seven does when she thinks that there's no security. Right. I don't know.

I mean, it's not a good scene for Janeway for that reason and also the whole, I find your name difficult to pronounce. Would you mind if we abbreviated it in a way that made it easier for me to say? Something that's a little easier on the American tongue. You know, in ancient United States history, there was a place called Ellis Island. I would like you to consider my Ready Room a form of that. And so if you were to become the crew, let's name you something that integrates better. out on the bridge they are running up on a spaceship that is in bad shape and Tuba calls the captain and to get on

FaceTime with the captain of this ship. Were you surprised that she left her Ready Room first? Like in another instance of giving Seven of Nine Too Much Trust because if I leave and that door Shuts behind me. Uh oh. Seven's getting into all the trinkets. I think Seven of Nine Too Much Trust, because if I leave and that door shuts behind me, uh-oh.

Seven's getting into all the trinkets. Right. The guy that she meets on FaceTime is called Ramen of the Katadi people. Boy, this guy had a really bad case of cystic acne when he was a teenager. Yeah. One of them hasn't been gotten yet

on the back of his scalp. He's really got two vicks ahead, doesn't he? It's a lot. It looks as bad on the front as it does on the back, though. Yeah. How difficult is it as an actor to have such a long protuberance on the back of your head? Like, I'm not expecting anyone is lying down.

Right. But this guy doesn't have the option, even. Is this why there are so many different weird kinds of pillows and Star Trek? Cause like some pillow, like you're issuing pillows to people whose heads could go far as far back as this. This guy is using hemorrhoid pillows all over the place. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha He's telling this sub story, hey, like our people got scattered to the wind by the

borgs. There's like very few of us left and we're all starving and our ships are all fucked up. Is there any way you could help us? He's selling magazines. Yeah. Janeway's like, I don't need a subscription to vibe. And he's like, but how is my basketball team going to get to states? Oh God, this guy. It is very familiar how a person of this cataties attitude, it feels

like a con. It feels like a con right up top. Yeah. Why does it feel that way? This guy is just bummed out about his deal. We lost everything. Yeah, I mean, I think that the relative stability of his ship maybe leans to that. Like it doesn't seem like they're in like an emergency.

Yeah. Like they're starving. He should be like, oh my God, thank God we ran into you know, he doesn't sell it right is what I'm saying. He doesn't like the show that he makes out of asking for help is a big big show. Yeah, and that's maybe the thing that's suspicious about it. It feels a little too practiced. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And the other thing I'm just thinking about in Star Trek shorthand is if they'd picked up a distress signal as the first thing, I feel like that would have hit different. If they'd like rushed to see what the distress signal was. But instead it's the catatty that went to them.

So one of the things he asked for is some thorium isotopes. Without them, our systems can't function. Janeways like, that's great. We'll get you some of those in the A story, back to that, and we're back down in engineering where BLT is working with Vorik on isotopes and 7 of 9 on this idea of modifying the ship to open transwarp tunnels. This is the proposal that Seven has made is, I will help you get your ship going fast enough

that you should turn into lizards, but you don't. The LT's interested in opening up Transwarp Tunnels and opening up a can of whoop ass on Seven of Nine, like baiting her. Doing that thing, like she wants 7 of 9 to take a swing at her, I think. So, don't you feel bad about being a Borgs? Yeah.

Yeah, so you remember what the Catatti said about what the Borgs did to them? Pretty messed up, huh? You have any feelings at all about it? This was such an interesting scene to me because it's not that seven of nine isn't playing along because she truly doesn't feel anything. I am reading this scene as though she has come a long way in terms of her integration and she knows by giving any answer at all. It's just going to invite more ridicule. Right.

There's no right answer. It's a trick question. Yeah. I think she's got BLT figured out here. The only hope that 7 of 9 has would be to write something in the Notes app and post four screenshots of it, acknowledging Borg privilege, you know, she needs to go on Katati Twitter and post that quad box apology. That's the good stuff. Yeah, that's what you got to do. But also, I think BLT looks at 7 of 9 sees how high the combat is and is like, she's weak. She's

fucking weak. Yeah. And to take her down a peg. She's not hanging badge like a powerful character. Yeah. If she was hanging badge, there's no way BLT would be fucking around with her like this. I think it would be best if I waited in my alcove. I think you're right. I think that BLT is just having a real bad day. It's not about to get better because she goes to Nelix's restaurant and Nelix, the king of not reading the room, comes up to her,

wants to cheer her up. He's got a morale boosting apron and a personal pan-blood pie. Just for her. That looked like a mashed sweet potato pie, didn't it? Yeah, did. I got to say, I dislike most of the garments that Neelix wears. I would fucking wear this apron.

There's a great-looking apron. It's nice looking apron. It's gonna hide your spills and stains very well, I think. Talk about Calvin Hudson-ing. He's put the badge low on the apron itself. Yeah, like that move. Do you think because she's half human, she likes to order a blood pie,

like half blood pie, half pepperoni, you see on the blood. Yeah. You know what, instead of blood, I kind of like a white pie, so maybe like a garlic sauce situation. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably, that tracks.

What you love is the targ pepperoni that turns itself into cups. Yeah, and's probably that tracks what you love is the is the targ pepperoni that turns itself into cups Yeah, and when the when the blood cheese gets all all browned along the edges Hmm, so tasty. Yeah, it's lazy. It's like all blood, right? It's mostly blood on the blood. Why is that what you're saying? Yeah, it's blood cheese and are you supposed to drink it with blood wine or is that just too much blood? Oh, man. You're gonna need an antacid for a dinner like that. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,

get that checkered tablecloth, blood pie joint. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha Cubs. Mm-hmm. My mother-in-law doesn't think it's really clinging on food unless that's the kind of vibe in the restaurant. You know, there's an arcade cabinet of a Patach fighter two in the corner. So a lot of clinging on kids grow up. Mm-hmm. It's good times. Yeah. Neelix does turn this around by proposing basically a real life version of two-vox choke Neelix holodeck program. I was thinking the same thing. I had underestimated the damage of Cass leaving the ship and what it did to Neelix because Neelix full on pivots into sub.

He's like, you know what, I never did this with Cass, but at any point you just wanna come over and dominate me. I'm down. When you're angry, come sheenby. Call me names and insult me. And it made me wonder like you, Ben, if maybe that wasn't a hologram at all in two box program.

Maybe that was Neelix actual. Maybe he did that. For two bucks. The scene we didn't see is Neelix offering himself to two-vac in that same way. Right, right. You may use me to blow off steam. He says this to her. She says it's like the nicest thing anyone's offered. And he like is about to walk away.

And she's like, hey Neelix, one more thing. And I totally thought she was going to be like, you were one of the most obnoxious mother fuckers I have ever met. I was so sad, but she just wanted to buy. You thought she was gonna totally destroy him after the gift of sub he offers? Yeah, I thought that she was gonna take him up

on it right then right there. Oh, I yeah like like ready to go. Yeah. I'm here if you need me. So she goes down to the holodeck which has been made to look like some Star Trek caves, and there's a warrior there who greets her and starts to tell her about how the ceremony is going to go. It will be a lengthy ordeal. There's a couple of appetizer courses, and then they get to the fun with the painsticks in the batlets. Do you have a day of honor membership card?

In order to accrue points. For every day of honor ceremony you participate in. If you come celebrate your day of honor on your birthday you get a free sombrero. Please enjoy your Targheart appetizers. They go wonderfully with Matlock. The Grail of Kaleus, wow. Yeah. You know, Kaleus is grilled comparatively humble since he was a carpenter. And the Klingon Indiana Jones movie, do you think that's a point of emphasis? Like choose which grail of Kaelis he drank out of? Yeah, exactly. Choose wisely. So they, you know,

start elaborating on all the painsticks that she's in for and she's like, all right, I pass. I, you know, I didn't want to do this before you described it. Certainly not now. The Mettlach was one thing. The painsticks are another. And she's like trying to walk out of there and then grab her and start painstaking her. It's not. Ah!

Ah! Instead of computer and program, she finishes the job by beating up the warriors that are painstaking her. I started counting the painstaking and I'm like, you're almost there, B.L.T. Let's just get it over with. Yeah. You already ate the targ hire.

You already drank the matlock. We know that you've been hitting people with, uh, with batless and worst workout program. Yeah. Were you a little disappointed not to see a skull face? Yeah. Yeah. Bring them back. I want turtle face.

I want skull face. Yeah. I would have liked that trench that Worf had to walk along. Instead, it's the host. Yeah. I am courteous. You're Dave on our host. Curtis. Your day of honor host.

If you need anything, I'll be right here. She beats these guys up and walks out of the program and Paris finds her in her quarters and is like, hey, you You left your game unpossed. So your character is just standing there in that surprisingly short loop. You know, anyone can just go in there. I got painsticked many times. It's weird how they keep the off switch inside the holodeck.

Yeah, yeah. He's really trying to be her friend, but he is also a little bit annoyed because he worked really hard on helping her set the Day of Honor program up. And I think you owe me the courtesy of telling me what happened. It was ridiculous, meaningless, posturing. Holidays are so hard on relationships. They really are.

We set this up for success and it's failing. Now we're mad at each other about it. You get your hopes up for a perfect day of honor. Yeah. And all that it entails sucks. You know, he just keeps getting cobra spittin' his face for his trouble. I really found this a realistic time to give up. When Paris finally gets to the boiling point where he's sick of this shit and ready to bounce. I was like, yeah man, what more can you do? What are the

upsides of pressing the issue at this point? She's clearly not into it. There's a Delaney sister out there who Harry Kim's probably done with. There may be even two of them. Yeah, go reset the holodeck to Sondreens. Yeah. Invite a Delaney sister or two. Have a chill rest your day. Yeah, man. I mean, at a certain point, the effort's all one sided. Adam, do you remember ramen?

Oh, yeah. I sure do. Yeah, so he's still here. There's a hair in my ramen. Actually, quite a few, Ben. Actually, too much hair. Uh-huh. By a lot. We've seen a lot of meetings in Star Trek.

I've never seen them have ramen at a meeting. Yeah. Luma is there. Telling everyone a story straight out of a late-by-charity commercial. You know the kind of commercial. That for some reason is like two and a half minutes long. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

God. You're like, if you're such a charitable cause, why are you buying this larger of a block of ad time? You could hear the crying of the babies. We would have as much trouble sleeping at night as I do. And licensing a Sarah McLaughlin song, that's not cheap. Yeah. I will be the year.

I mean, I think these cataties are hiding something based solely on the pitch here. Yeah. He is in that mode of a person who asked for help and is now sort of dissatisfied with the amount of help that he's getting. And it turns into the thing where he kind of accuses the Voyager crew of being limousine liberals. Apparently, keeping your belly full is more important to you than helping those less fortunate.

We're here suffering and you're flying around the galaxy acting like your problems are just as big as ours and they're fucking not. Neelix is like, well, if we gave you as much as you wanted, we'd end up as poor as you are right now. And that's not going to work for us. And he's like, that's not how redistribution of wealth works. And they're like, yeah, but this is the 90s. And we don't get that.

I was surprised it was Nielix, who was the piper-upper here. Yeah, Nielix kind of comes to the defense of the Starfleets in a way that, you know, gives Captain Janeway a nice out. She's like, you know, send them over any extra food that we have and we'll be on our way. Make sure you send them the unpopular foods, Nelix. All the Leola roots, if I have my vote. Just scrape the plates into a barrel and then beam that barrel over. Donate the bottoms of all the muffins. Give them catatty food. They're going to give them some medical supplies as well from the doctor who I don't think appears in this episode. No. No. And that seems to satisfy ramen. There's like a feeling at the end of

this scene where it's like, all right, are we done here? Like we're done, right? Time for you to go. To fuck, please escort our guest to the transport. Get the fuck out! Gotta get out of here, buddy. Got bigger fish to fry. So he's walking through the hallway. Well, Tom is walking through the hallway with seven.

Maybe kind of, you know, seeing if there's an opportunity there when when ramen sees seven and is told by two Valk that what he's looking at is an XB and he flips out. He thinks she is like the personal murderer of his wife and children. He's like trying to throw hands. He has to be physically restrained by two of us and Paris. And Paris is like, hey, sorry about that seven.

She's like, what? I don't give a shit. Do you think Paris is making a pass at her here? Because Paris, he's talking about trans-warp conduits. But he's also talking about trans-warp conduits, Ben. Yeah. I kind of was picking that up too. You'll have no idea what you're doing.

I am a quick study. It's either that, or he's just relieved to be in someone's company that isn't creating drama out of every little situation. And I think the end of this scene is what really emphasizes that part. Because if it were BLT and not 7 of 9, BLT would have acted very differently in this moment.

And I think there's something attractive about seven of nine here where Paris is like, God, you know, you really could have flown off the handle there, but you didn't. Your chill is hell. Why didn't you murder ramen with your hands? Yeah. That's what my girlfriend would have done.

I'd like to get to know your trans-warp conduit a little better. Ha-ha-ha. Well, that opportunity will be available to him What have done? I'd like to get to know your trans-warp conduit a little better. Well, that opportunity will be available to him because that's what they're testing next. And they head down to engineering where everybody is working on this trans-warp conduit test. They move the helm control down to engineering so that Paris can be right there for it. Yeah, I mean, he's playing the piano right next to 7 of 9. They're cozyed up. The plan a little do it. I was surprised that PLT was cool with this arrangement.

Yeah, I mean, you see or look at them together a couple of times and does not look like she's super happy to be looking at that. So anyways, they go to warp, they're warping along and they start doing the things that they believe they need to do to open a trans warp condo it. And surprise, surprise, it does not go great. You got your tacky uns leaking all over the place and it's just getting worse. There's no, in the submarine parlance, that there's just not enough valves to turn to stop the tacky on leak.

And it really feels like it's blast door time. You have your orders. Now seal it, goddamn baby, before we all go down. It does. And they got to get out of there. The last two people in the room are Tom and Belana. She's trying to need to the many and he persuades her like,

no, we just got to get out of here. And as they're walking out of the room, she's like setting it up that they're going to eject the warp core. And we're all thinking like, oh great. Another one of these things where it seems like they're about to eject the warp core and then the last minute they don't. Yeah, but instead you cut to the exterior of the ship and you're angled right on the

hole. Or as this thing comes out. This is what I want. Man, a nice clean elimination. It's not pebbles, it's the whole thing. Yeah, yeah, nice, healthy warp core coming out. And it floats as soon as it leaves the ship and that's another sign, you get a healthy constitution here. The ship must have been eating a lot of fiber. Yeah. So the leo roots are not all bad.

One piece, slight curve, it floats, checks all the boxes. Mm-hmm, it's good stuff. I wonder what else can go wrong today? Why? I've got to take it, bet. Not no, get bet. All better large, my dear. I've got to take it. A greatest-gen live show is something you don't want to miss. Why?

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Good. To get that luck would not be selling ice to gold. Worst day of BLT's life, and when we come back, I don't know if this was done with like a matte painting or what, but they make it look like there's no warp core in engineering. And I thought this was great. Yeah, I wondered also if they took it apart and wheeled it away, or if they, you know, hung a drape to cover it or something. Because like nobody walks in front of it, which makes me think that there's a ... It was painted. ... ... the camera trick in the wide angle.

Yeah, that would make sense. This is a show that's capable of that. Yeah, but yeah, it's, so it's millions of miles away. It's like, it's way back behind them. And Paris and BLT pretty quickly get stuck on, go pick it up in a Subaru Brat duty. Inexpensive and built to stay that way. Did this scene make you wonder,

if you could send a Subaru Brat out to retrieve the warp core with a tractor beam, could you fly a bunch of Subaru Brats out to tractor beam the Voyager all the way back to the warp core? Oh, interesting. Yeah. You think it's just too much mass to move?

I don't know how that works. I feel like I leave that intentionally a little vague. Yeah. I mean, this is another expendable shuttle craft. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like. They're really pumping them out now.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, no wonder they have to be on Replicator Rations. They have to keep re-replicating their fucking shuttle crafts after every episode. No kidding. Inside the shuttle, BLT continues to make the day's terrible events all about her. Yeah. Maybe it's me. This is starting to wear a little thin on me, but not to Paris. Paris has still got a great perspective on the thing. Should happens, bad luck happens. Yeah.

This day isn't happening at you. It's happening to everyone. And uh, honor be damned. Let's just go get this uh, warp core and uh, we'll put it back in the ship. Everything's gonna be right as rain. But they, when they get up to it, they find that a katadi ship has put a tractor beam on it. One of the things they talked about on on the way is that the warp core is unstable and they need to fix it before they do tractor beam so that it doesn't usplode on them.

So instead of just being mad that their warp core is getting stole by the Katadi, they're like, hey, don't tractor beam that, you will die. Yeah, I think it's less about killing the Katadi and maybe more about losing their one and only warp core, right? Yeah, I mean, it's all of these things. And the Katadi are claiming salvage rights to this thing and this turns into a firefight that pretty quickly compromises the shuttle.

They got like two and a half minutes to get out of the shuttle before it blows up. That's not a lot of time. And there are no blast doors on a Brat style shuttle. So they gotta go to the space suits. Yeah. And they get in first contact, vintage space suits. Paris tries to have the computer radio voyage

or before they beam out. And it's just unclear whether or not that message gets out before they're beamed into space and the Brad explodes. Yeah. Did you think that they were doing like a little over crank effect on the camera when they were floating around in space?

Because it seemed like they were maybe overcranking it a little bit so that they would look a little floatier and then like looping in dialogue. I bet that's what they were doing. All of their dialogue was looped though. Yeah. And the spacesuits. I mean, it would have sounded really weird

to record in helmet dialogue. So I understand that, but it's, yeah, it sort of looked to me like they were like in a slight amount of slow motion on top of that. I mean, there's a quality to their speech in the spacesuits too that I found delightful. I was like, why is Paris talking so slowly? And I was like, oh yeah, because they're in spacesuits. Like that seems to be the science fiction shorthand for being in spacesuits.

Like let's let's do it, Ben. How'll show you how? Okay. I feel weightless for the first time today. I'm just gonna help you out with your air hose there. Beth, hey Adam, that's not my air hose. See, it sounds like we're in space. That was cool. That was really cool. Yeah, and an audio medium, close your eyes and- You believe we're weightless.

Feel so real. Like floating in the womb. Their plan at this moment is to combine their communits because one comm unit isn't strong enough to get a message out. One is none. And in order to do that, you just get yourself into a side hug configuration with someone else wearing a suit, and that's all you need to do.

I thought you'd never ask. Paris can't help but make horny comments about this, and BLT is really in no mood for horny comments, especially because like, what are you gonna do? You're gonna get blue spacesuits. Yeah. From this, you can't do anything about it. Yeah.

I could have done without hearing what a carrier wave sounded like. I don't need to hear this sound. Yeah. You think that's the moment that a Paris decides to rip one? Like, you've been holding it in a while, but nothing like a carrier wave to cover up the sound of a fart. that Paris decides to rip one, like, he'd been holding it in a while, but nothing like a carrier wave

to cover up the sound of a fart. Much better. And then later when she plugs her oxygen hose into him, she's like, oh God, what the hell? When you share oxygen, you have to be breathing the other person's air, right? I was thinking the same thing. Yeah.

It's like wearing someone else's mask. Yeah, yeah. That's gotta be such a gross out. Like the couple of times that I've accidentally put my wife's mask on, it's like, it's like, uh, uh, uh. Like I've sucked face with my wife. We make out all the time.

We make out like people that are still dating. I don't want to do that. I don't like wearing her mask. Yes, you have a very healthy relationship, Ben. Everyone knows it. Speaking of healthy relationships that are built on trust, back on Voyager, 7 of 9 is called into the captains 9 is called into the captain's ready room to answer some questions about why all these tachyons were leaking into the work core when 7's big experiment happened. 7 of 9 is like, what the fuck? You're like the others, you see me as a threat.

You think just because I was the only XB in there that I'm a prime suspect? How long have you, Part of me is suspicious. Not today, baby. You're gonna need a lawyer. She like ashes a cigarette under desk. Wheels around and walks out. Jane was like, aren't you as sharp as a tag? You some type of lawyer or something?

Is somebody important or something? Yeah, I mean, but this is one of those things that needs to be explained, right? When accident happened, seven, it's natural for there to be an investigation. And this is that. And seven explanations are pretty plausible. And like the other thing that she says is like,

I don't like really have any experience with dissembling or hiding the truth. I haven't done that ever since I was a little kid, so if you're looking for somebody with a big, devious master plan, it ain't me. Right. And that kind of lines up with the thing where she suddenly saw the comms channel

and made the decision to try and contact the collective. After that happened, when she was talking to Janeway, she was like, I didn't lie to you. I was just so overcome by the idea of contacting the collective in that moment that I changed my mind. Right. Right, but it's natural for Janeway to be like, did you change your mind again? Yeah, absolutely. But sevens answer satisfy Janeway in this scene and they move on. I believe you. Thank you.

Yeah, I mean, I think it's like a, we're gonna continue to presume innocent until we get some more evidence to the contrary, kind of a moment. It doesn't seem like seven is entirely off the hook. There are three instruments about being as time should count. Hip-Drew. Hip-Drew. Shur-Tactin. Brodallotish-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew-Hip-Drew- lot of time that we spend with Paris and BLT floating around, talking to each other. And in the next scene, they get hit with some ion turbulence.

And this causes Paris's suit to evacuate almost all of its oxygen, but not have like a hole. It seems like. Yeah, that was weird. It was weird. I thought for sure that this ion turbulence was gonna be like a bigger deal, like some kind of Katadi weapon or I don't know. Is it the reason that the tacky

ones happened? I didn't write that down. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, if a Katadi ship had zoomed by, headed for the warp core, I mean, what happens to them? Yeah, their ships are barely holding together. Are they just turned into an aerosol? Yeah. I don't know, but I mean, you don't have much time to consider

all the possibilities of this ion storm situation because the real takeaway here is that what was a day's worth of oxygen has been reduced to about a half an hour. Yeah, and it's not looking great for a Parisian BLT, and it's also not looking great for Voyager. Seven has like satisfied the captain that the work power thing was not her fault with some actual sensor readings when they get called out onto the bridge and ramen is shown back up

with a lot more Katati ships. He brought some friends. And it's real like no more mister nice Katati moment. Yeah, they're asking for more, but asking really isn't the right word, right? They're demanding because he's got 27 ships to back him up. And while one Katati ship isn't that strong. This is like death of a thousand cuts here. Yeah, this is like death of 27 cuts here

I mean plus they've got their warp core. It's like the Voyager doesn't have a lot of leverage in the negotiation I hope you got to pick your board generous and yeah, this guy is Pretty desperate desperate enough to do bad things. I want your clothes I'm hoping that will make you more generous. And yeah, this guy is pretty desperate. Desperate enough to do bad things. I want you clothes, your boots, and your 7 of 9. Yeah, he wants to take 7 of 9 so that they can punish her in public for the satisfaction of the remaining Katadi people. I love our 7 of 9s.

It sounds good to me. I'm ready to go. I wasn't really doing much over here. So yeah. I will go. Right. Good moment for her. Mm-hmm.

She gets talked out of it though. No, the captain is like, you're part of our crew now. And we back each other up. Sometimes the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many and this is one of those times. That's right. You can tell things with BLT and Parasur are going bad because... All the fucking viewers listening to this show on Devil's Feet are getting in real time now. The people that have the overcast feature that edits out silences.

They're like, what are they doing? Boy, it didn't take long for BLT to give up. She is expecting to die now. We have to face up to it, Tom. And if you're Paris, it's a good time to get radical candor from both BLT and out of yourself. Yeah. They talk about how much they've changed

and how BLT starts reflecting on the like keeping people at arm's length and pushing people away thing is a kind of maladaptive defense mechanism that she has. I mean, they talk a lot. They talk about like their history at Starfleet. They talk about the ways that they've grown closer and eventually, we get to the tearful confession of love.

They pull each other closer and Paris is like, Is that your oxygen? Oh, or are you just happy to be me? It's gotta be so hard to get an erection in a low oxygen environment, right? But you know, Paris can do it. Yeah, if there's anyone. Paris is like a guy I feel like who, you know, like, if you go mountaineering, you train in low oxygen, you'll like wear an oxygen to priving mask or something when you're doing your workouts or whatever you prepare for that. But if you're in space and you're a sexual rast about,

like, do you think you prepare yourself for low oxygen environments? Like if you go on a on a dustbuster club and maybe the planet doesn't have the oxygen you're used to, you're still going to want to get an erection, right? Right. Yeah. Paris, why are you bringing that that pad marked tax documents on this away, mission? Oh, no reason. I mean, we're each getting our own room, right?

It's not to be sure. Own room. Am I making any sense here? 709 comes up with an alternative for what the Katadi are proposing, which is we'll give them a replicator that is specifically capable of replicating thorium, which is what their technology requires to work. If they're able to replicate their own thorium, they will be in much better shape overall. And this is a kind of new thought technology for her, like giving away technology is not

something that comes natural to a Borg's. So this is something that she kind of learned from Janeway. There's coffee in that unexpected act of kindness. They beam ramen aboard so they can give him this gift, and they're like, and we'll give you parts to make more of these. It's going to be great. Many centuries ago, the Borgs assimilated a motivational speaker. Who had a story about teaching a man to fish?

And that is what this is. Yeah, yeah. A man who had previously had his knowledge of how to fish robbed by us. So we're going to teach these cataties how to replicate thorium. Yeah. So then storyline resolved. The final image of the episode is the Voyager like pulling up to the nearly dead. Real fast.

What do you think of the amount of gratitude that Lumix shows here at the end of the scene? Lumix, his name is ramen. There's a couple of different guys. Lumix, his name is Ramen. There's a couple of different guys. There are? Yeah. What? Oh, Lumis. Lumis is who I'm thinking of.

Lumis and Ramen. There's two different guys. Oh, God, you're a Katadi race, it's start you. I didn't know there were two different guys. Sure are. Wow. I got called a fake fan of Star Trek on the internet the other day. So this is fun. This only goes to further that accusation. It's a fake. You only changed your entire life to be a Star Trek podcast. You're a very fake. Yeah, not a real fan.

Yeah. Yeah, no, he's a dick. I mean, he's a dick because he assumes that they're just giving him one. And they're like, no, you can make more of these. Like, give me a fucking break. How did you not set the mute rule of your fake fan? That's one of the 700 muted phrases I have on Twitter. Oh, man, it was, I just sent back a guy in greenshirt laughing at.gif. Mm-hmm. You know? Yeah, that works. Itif. Mm-hmm. You know?

Yeah, that works. It works. Works every time. That should be like an automatic rule. You shouldn't have to do that manually. The account that made the accusation faved my response, and I am mystified by it. Oh, yeah. They're just all about making jokes with you.

Yeah, it's just fun stuff. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. I don't think that this was a friend of DeSoto or somebody that listens to our shows. Like this was just like a person that saw a tweet that I happen to be in. Oh, yeah. It was weird. Anyways.

Final image of the episode, the tearful confession of love between BLT and Paris. They don't show the wide shot and Paris's oxygen tube, pressing, like, challenging the tensile strength of his face suit. That's where the air leaks coming from, Paris. They're really an item now, and we see the Voyager in the reflection on BLT's face shield, Janeway radiosum up, and they get beamed out of the hard vacuum and back to the safety of the ship. Does oxygen deprivation cause romantic feelings in this way?

Like, and is that why tying a belt around your neck while jacking off feels so good? Like, it's not the danger, Ben. It's the love that someone's intoxicating, right? We have to try to make it last as long as possible. I think that's what it is. I mean, only the realest ones could tell us, but sadly they're gone, you know.

David Caradine would be the person that I would turn to for an answer on that. Right, you know? Yeah, or Michael Hutchins. Yeah. Did you like this episode? You know, I'm really easy to get along with most of the time. But I don't like bullets. I don't like friends. I don't like you. I like this too. I want to answer that question with another question. And I think it is that it's like the core of this, this whole thing.

Were you ever invested in Voyager's Pam and Jim storyline? Because if not, does this revelation hit for you at all? I can't say if I ever was really invested in BLT in Paris. I like that it seems like they're going to be an item because it seems like an unusual storyline for a Star Trek series to have. There aren't many long-term couples on Star Trek, are there, but there are many like, will they or won't they couples or X's or whatever. Right.

It's Pam and Jim from the office? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, I never watched that. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. Why? Okay. You don't watch a lot of things most people have.

I didn't. I'm a very interesting pop culture diet. I gave it a try. I didn't care for it. Yeah. Didn't, you know, I didn't care for it. Yeah. It wasn't to my taste. There are other things that are. The list of I didn't care for is that are beloved.

For most people is a very growing list. It's growing as long as Paris is oxygen tube. It's not a judgment on other people. It's not a judgment. It's an observation. I'm sorry, what was the question? But anyway, maybe changing it from a Pam and Jim comparison to like any television show that uses a romantic tension between characters that finally is realized.

Yeah. Like I don't know, they probably did this on friends, right? This is a Ross and Rachel thing. Hmm. You ever watch friends? Same in Diane. Probably didn't care for that, huh? But you know what I mean? Like, like, part of the fun is ruined when when the tension is broken and they're and they're

finally together. Like, and that I think is what I'm getting at with my question. Like, did you want this to happen? And are you disappointed that it did because now all that tension has gone? Well, I think that maybe the thing that is working in the favor of this relationship is that the tension is not there for the viewers' benefit. Like, you can tell that there's tension between the characters, but it doesn't feel like the show is like fixated on that tension as like the main source

of story structure stuff. Right. And for that reason, I'm not disappointed, and I'm also just casually curious to see what happens with it, you know? Hmm. I would say that that's where I'm at on it. Like, it doesn't feel like a huge moment of catharsis,

and it also doesn't feel like it is unjustified given stories leading up to this. That is an interesting observation for me because I wonder if the show wants this to feel like a great moment of catharsis. And in that way did it fail. I keep just asking questions instead of answering them. I think that's just because I'm generally confused about whether or not I like this episode or not.

Yeah. It's a weird episode. It's hard to, it feels like a pretty light one. I feel like it also sort of feels like it is here to explain why Voyager doesn't just get to have super-bore technology from here on in. Yeah. And it's not gonna be that easy.

And the like, oh, we can't open Transwarp conduits thing. You know, we probably would have been annoyed if they hadn't addressed it. Pretty much right off the bat. So, yeah. So for that reason, I guess I appreciate the weird bind that the writer's room was in,

but it's definitely not one of my favorite episodes. Are the katani maybe among your least favorite aliens? Didn't care for them, yeah. Yeah, didn't I like? Didn't I like? You know what I do like at them is priority one messages. Oh yeah, me too, big fan. Want to go see if we have any in the inbox? Hell yeah. I'm gonna slow my way over there. There they are. Man. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on that. supplement on that?

supplement. supplement. a supplement on that. supplement on that? supplement. supplement. Yeah, it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Ben, our first priority one message is of a promotional nature. It feels like this. The infamous tomato meter slapped Star Trek V,

the final frontier with a 22% rotten score and Star Trek Nemesis with a 22% rotten score and star-track nemesis with a rotten 38%. Do you need any more proof that their system is broken? Wow. Look up the Contrarians on your favorite pod catcher and join us as we rage against the Rotten Tomatoes machine. How about this is a fun concept for a podcast? We are the Contrarians.com is where you can find more information and I'm sure you can download this show on any place where you can get a podcast. I think that this is a, isn't this repeat business from the Contrarians? I feel like they've gotten a P1 from us before. I mean, I hope this isn't

just a case of me forgetting. but if it is, it would suggest that the Contrarians had been around for a while and they're thriving. Yeah, as a show. Some of those that move forces are the same that throw rotten tomatoes. Indeed, and... Check out the Contrarians for more anti-tomato rhetoric. We are the Contrarians.com. Adam we have another priority one message here and this one is from Ryan from Sacktown

and it's Tupan and Adam. It's like this. It's February 21st and I just finished TGG again. So I figured I'd get a P1 for TGG and TGG. Thanks Ryan! Two questions, one, which character from DS9 or TNG would you most like to see return in a current show? And two, who's your favorite current show character?

Curious to see if your answer changes between when these P1s air? Love you guys, thank you for the great pods. Wow. I'd say, character from DS9, I'd be really curious to see them bring Jake back in a current show. Because for some reason, Jake's a skill. It's me, Jake.

I'm curious to see what happened with that guy, you know? Is he still writing? Yeah, I mean, Star Trek has a mixed history of bringing back child actors on the new shows. Hey nerds, say. Yeah. It'd be nice to get a different rep there. And Jake would offer them that opportunity.

Yeah, yeah. How about you? Oh, I mean, I think most people could guess that I would want to see what Kira is up to. Sure. These days. Yeah. Colonel Kira.

Yeah, do you think she's still a Colonel? Probably retired Colonel these days. I think she left it all behind. I think she probably came around in retirement to opening up a pizza restaurant of her own. Whoa. Yeah. She came full circle like John Rambo Ben. She's eliminated every competing pizza operation in the Bedurin system and now she's ready to dominate the market. Now, now this is so amazing

I'm ready to see her on a on a new Star Trek show I think she'd be great. Let's see, and my favorite current show character, man. Well, as we record this, we are like right in the middle of season one of Strange New World, so I feel like I should pick somebody from there. I think my bang up may be my my fave of the new cast so far. He's just, he's been a lot of fun and and already a very like three-dimensional character after the scant few episodes that I've seen so far. That's a great answer, Ben. And when asked a question like this before, I know I've said Pike, but in watching more

and more episodes of Strange New World, I mean, I think it's obvious, Ensen Lance is one of the most intriguing new characters on that show, and maybe in all of the new Star Trek series, I mean, so much going on with him, so mysterious, yet familiar, so attractive and yet approachable, so funny, but not annoying. So much looking like Kyle McLaughlin and Timotay Shalame had a baby. Yeah, Ensign Lance. They're better be an Ensign Lance Action Figure by the time I go to Star Trek Las Vegas this year.

Oh, man. I'm gonna get a ton of those, Ben. We're gonna be swimming in Ensen Lance action figures. You create an Ensen Lance action figure bubble. Hell yeah, that's what I'm doing. Oh man, I better keep that to myself though. Too late, too late. Ben our final priority one message is from Zach, Braager. Whoa! And it's to you and me. Zach's on quite a streak here, I think. Zach at this point is like...

subsidizing the production of our show. As much as like Squarespace. You remember, uh, remember Razz and Plavime? Yeah. Zach is doing Razz and Plavime work here. Zach Breager could buy and sell Razz and Plavime all day long. I doubt that. Ha ha ha ha ha ha this with three pods dropping a week on top of everything streaming. I don't think I've ever been so saturated with Trek and

it's awesome. Since you guys are upping your game with the extra apps, I figured I've got to give my support. So here I am with another P1, and another, and another, and another, all P1s everywhere. Well, maybe not that many. That would be, that would be a lot even for Zach Breger to shoulder, but thank you Zach for your incredibly kind support. Don't really know what to do with it. Not really sure what to do with Zach's credit card something that he mailed to the PO box Yeah, and then just keeps keeps getting charges for about a hundred bucks

I'm gonna take it to Austin with us. Yeah, the drinks are gonna be on Zach Breger Well, if you'd like to get a P1 whether or not you're Zach Breger you can head to maximum fund out or JemboTron and set one up. Hey, Ben. What's that, Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? I guess I'm gonna have to give it to myself because I didn't realize that there were more than one Katari. I thought that this was the one guy. You're right, there was ramen and there was loomis. Yep.

Yeah. Sure were. What the hell? Why did they need two characters? They're never on screen together. You know what, that is a great point. And if they looked so similar, why have two at all? You don't need two.

Huh. Don't make any sense to me. You think it sucks to be the actor of ramen and the actor of Lumix, like looking identically, knowing that no one will be able to tell them apart? Yeah. Knowing that you gotta split your line to dialogue with this guy? Lumix played by Ellen Altchuld, who also headed some roles in TNG and in Baywatch. Look at that guy.

Wow. Ellen Altchuld played Rannack. Who could forget? From Gambit Part One. Yeah. The Eritian. I love that guy. That guy was a real piece of shit.

Yeah, he really was. Hey, guess who's being typecast as a piece of shit? Alan Elchold. Yeah, true. Michael Krabick, who plays ramen, is like, yeah, I mean, say what you will about ramen, but it's... It's so loomish. Yeah. Don't confuse me with loomish.

Who's a fucking trick. Did you have a trunk trimota atom? I mean, I'm gonna make my drunk trimota split between lumus and ramen. Ben. Wow. A shared trimode. Yeah. I mean, yeah.

Almost done at you, really. It's kind of a trimota triangle. I'm the trimota for confusing the two of them. Yeah. It's a kind of a Shimoda triangle. I'm the Shimoda for confusing the two of them. Yeah, it's only fair. Yeah, this is clearly a practiced con. And who knows by the end of this, if they're going to continue conning? Yeah, yeah.

Now that they can make their own stuff. Are they out of the game? Are they going to go back to being an honorable people like they used to be? Who knows? I don't know, Ben, like, it seems like they've been living off a welfare for a long time.

Are they gonna go out and get themselves a real job or what? It's like, once the alien trashed the galaxy, always the alien trashed the galaxy, they're probably just gonna buy a bunch of junk that they don't need with their thorium. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha is on the game of buttholes, the will of the caretaker. Well, hopefully we've got a brand new episode teed up for next week. We do, it's got a pretty intense name at him. It's season four, episode four, Nemesis.

When Chicoete is stranded on a planet that is in the middle of a major war, he violates the prime directive by helping the soldiers that discover him. I mean, this is a kind of Chicote story, right? Like he's frequently getting stranded. Yeah, he is. This time, hopefully, he doesn't get eaten by a dino or something.

Then our runabout is currently on square 66. We're just a couple of squares ahead. We've got a Naomi Wildman square, Whoa, which would compel each of us to make a piece of artwork We're just a couple squares ahead. We've got a Naomi Wildman square, which would compel each of us to make a piece of artwork representing the episode and share it with each other and post pictures. I'm primarily scared of that one because it's so much work ahead

of recording the episode. Also in range, six squares away is a Janeway square. This would take us up to the top of the episode. Also in range, six squares away is a Janeway square. This would take us up to the top of the board directly to a Nielix's galley to Axiom Champaign episode. Wow. And you still haven't done that cocoa no-no. So a real upside, downside. Yeah. Kind of options here. See what I roll. Wow, okay? You're required to learn as you play Roll Am I gonna roll like BLT on a worst day ever?

Or am I gonna roll like a Tom Paris who's just rockin' hoed? Yeah, let's see what we get Then you know what I did. I rolled a six Wow Ben, you know what I did. I rolled a six. I'll never end. I'll never end. I'll never end. I'll never end. Wow. And that means we've made it all the way to the top of the game board. Oh, kidding. On Square 92. Remember when we were stuck at the bottom for like months?

I can't believe we're at the top. We were stuck at the bottom and now we're here. We're on, and Nielix is Galley Square next week, where you and I are popping bobs. It feels like we've, it feels like we've done a lot of things this past two months on the show. Yeah, it does.

Hidden special squares. A lot of squares. Yeah, and that will be how we do next week. Wow, well, I'm really looking forward to that in the meantime, really appreciate everyone who brings the show to the listeners every week by supporting at maximumfun.org slash join. We also got to thank Bill Tilly, the card daddy who runs our social media at greatest track on Instagram and Twitter.

Those are really fun things to follow and a great way to dip your toe into the many online communities and friends of Gisoto. Those are all over the internet. Reddit, Facebook, drunkcomota.com. They're everywhere. Get involved. You like the the audio grams? Yeah. That the account is putting up on the regular. Give those a share if you like them. Kind of see in those as a good entry point to a person maybe unfamiliar with what we do and how we do it. Yeah, between if you like.

And we got to thank Nick Dittmore, who helps us with all the artwork and everything for the show. I got to thank Adam Ragusia, who made the original theme music for this program. Of course, based off with dark materials with card song Gotta thank windy pretty the Uxbridge Shimoda producer full-timer. Yeah And with that we will be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek Voyager and an episode of the greatest generation Voyager that kind of betrays that we didn't drill to fathom the nemesis. I can tell. I can tell. I can tell.

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