The HoneyDew with Ryan Sickler - Jason Mewes - HoneyMewes

Episode Date: October 9, 2023

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guys know what we're doing over here I always say we highlight the low lights and I always say these are the stories behind the storytellers and I'm very excited to have this guest on today. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Jason Mews. Welcome to the honeydew. Yay, thank you. You clapped yourself in, bro. I know, right? Yeah. You look good in lavender, too, man.

You do. Thank you. You're a dad. You're looking good, bro. Appreciate it. Look, I told you. I met you outside. I saw you.

Huge fan. Stoked that you're doing this. Thank you. But before we get into your story please plug promote everything and anything you would like um so we kevin smith and i are doing uh a uh a cruise which i'm excited i've never done a cruise before i've never been on a cruise that is me either um and i've been a little little i never gone because i've been a little worried about getting out there but but i think it'll be fun uh it's it's gonna be february

23rd uh to the 26th i want to make sure i don't mess this up uh of next year uh and it will be from miami uh to nassau bahamas so february 23rd to 26th um and we're gonna do our podcast the one we don't do it anymore but kevin and i used to jay and son bob get old we're going to do our podcast, the one we don't do it anymore, but Kevin and I used to do, Jay and Psalm Bob Get Old. We're going to have a podcast, Hollywood Babylon, Fat Man Beyond, Edumacation. There's going to be a stand-up comedy tournament. There's going to be live music. Soul of Psalm is going to be there. Nice, yeah.

Clerk soundtrack. So there's going to be live music, some poker tournaments with everyone on board, stand-up comedy. I'm excited. i think it'll be fun because i don't drink uh and i'm sober and stuff and i don't i can't imagine going on a cruise where everyone's partying and doing stuff i'm not saying there people won't be drinking a little bit but i feel like there's gonna be so many things going on i'll be able to keep busy and do fun things are you worried about that no have you been in an environment like that since i mean you're in a fucking crack house on the water basically yeah yeah no you know what i'm saying like that's a

drug yeah but well the good news is though i feel like you know my main drug is is either you know let's say crack and heroin opiates um and i feel like people don't really share that it's like they're on the boat smoking yeah you know exactly it's mainly weed yeah exactly never again i remember i remember i used to be dope sick and i'm like i wish someone would share me but i mean constantly like you want to smoke some weed you want to drink but again and i like those but i i don't crave them and i don't like it's not hard to be like you know i can't get there because if i start that then i want to get to the other now let me ask you this because if you're an addict i'm just curious how that crosses because we're gonna get into this yeah but um gambling you said was going to be on the boat do you do you do you have because i'm not an addict

when it comes to gambling i don't know but when i But when I go to Vegas, my ego is like, we can win. We can do it. I'm like, no, we can't. But I'll fucking, I'll go way more than I should if I'm there. I've been good. If I'm there. You know, I have this thing where it's like, don't get me wrong. There's been a few times where I feel like I'll keep buying in.

Or if I'm playing blackjack, I'll buy in. But I feel like 300 is choosing my limit. And I think that I've gotten the most I've lost is maybe 1,000. And then I hit it. I was like, that's it. I can't lose more. And it bugs me enough that I can stop again. So I'm not worried about that.

And on the boat, we're going to be doing more of a tournament. I think we're going to be doing prizes and stuff. So I feel like tournaments are definitely more fun. You could buy in a couple of times. I'm also, we're going to be trying, I'm trying to get, see if it's possible and get together a gaming tournament.

So I've been, the one other thing I want to plug is my Twitch, twitch.tv forward slash J Muse. So I've been streaming on Twitch for three years. I play games. I unbox things and it's things. And it's live. And anyway, twitch.tv forward slash JMuse. But I'm hoping to try to get a gaming tournament on the boat.

A bunch of people from my stream. I don't have a whole lot, but I have a couple hundred people each time I sign on that watch live and stuff. And a bunch of them are coming on the cruise. So I'm hoping to get that together. But I don't know. It'll be fun. But yeah the cruise is february 23rd 26th and you can it'll be fun so come i i think it'll be great jason lee it will be there ethan suplee don tam brandel which is brian o'hara and jeff anderson from clerks um and clerks two and clerks

three whatever um but yeah it's gonna be a blast hell yeah so it'll be fun well let's talk about your life a little and how you got here clean and sober and everything because it starts in jersey i know you're a jersey guy you're are you 50 now too 49 49 you're about to be 50 you have an eight-year-old girl yep and you i don't know why i thought it was a seven-year-old but you just said you have a seven-month-old yeah yeah so you're about to be 50 and you have a a kid that's under one a baby yeah a baby you know a baby yeah it's tough and again it's like and it's funny because i almost i feel like you know it'll be easier you know everyone says it'll be easier but i feel like there is such a gap and i got so into them you know it's

like after the baby years and like following around making sure they're not putting stuff in their mouth and all the crazy scary things i'm not saying there ain't things i worry about with my eight-year-old as you know but i feel like there's a routine it's like i wake up get her ready for school she eats breakfast brush her teeth drop her off at school i know i have and then she has activities usually after so like i drop her off at like almost nine o'clock in the morning and i know that i have to like three or four to do whatever it is but now it's like now i gotta rush home hey babe do you need help she's like yeah i need to do this this and this so you're gonna watch the baby now and you know i'm gonna take him for a walk sometimes he's fussy he's teething and it's

uh yeah it's been interesting and and uh i'm a little little worn out some days it's funny because i it's like the double-edged sword i'm i also do sorry musing stories which is my stand-up uh so i've been touring uh with my stand-up comedy okay i just came back from portland uh at the helium comedy club but like i hate leaving the kids because i miss them but then at the same time like i swear i slept 12 hours each day man it's like people goes with me that's what i tell her i go on the road people like you like i'm like i just go get sleep yes i just sleep i know and i felt bad i don't really no offense i don't i mean your city's cool but i

don't really give a fuck about your museum right now yeah you gotta eat this food you gotta eat this and then i feel bad because there's always like people that i'm friends with from other towns so they came to my show and i'm excited they're there and i say hi to them for 10-15 minutes they're like hey you want to go do something i'm like look i'm not being rude i really want to spend time with you and hang out but i gotta go to sleep man i'm going to bed yeah especially because i've noticed too it's like i'll wake up and go out and do a couple things maybe get some lunch and then if i don't come home and nap for some reason like right before this show i feel like all sudden 6 p.m if my show's at 7 30 i'm like i'm so tired i guess so now i've learned like even if i go do stuff i'm going back to nap i'm gonna go lay go lay down at one, nap till four or five.

And it's like taking naps. So it's interesting. You're fucking speaking to my heart. That's me. You get in late. I sleep. I'm like, God, it's 12. I take my time getting up, go out, get a little bite to eat,

try to take a nap or at least hit the gym if I can. And then, yes, try to get in the zone. It's a lot. Yeah, it's not the same as back in the day when I was like, yeah, I'll meet you here and we'll stay out until 2. And then, oh, you want to go to this place? So can I ask you a personal question? Yeah, please do. You do not have to answer this.

Is your new baby, was it intentional? Yes. Or was it an accident? A hundred percent. Okay, so you wanted to do this yeah thank goodness both of them were well not thank goodness but i feel like we were just a little more prepared both of them were planned uh when i hit 40 almost it was almost my 40th birthday or what have you um my wife was uh is 13 years younger than me um and she wasn't ready up till

right around my 40th birthday. I'm like, listen, I'm 40 now. Like, if we're going to have a kid, can we have a kid and stuff? And she was like, oh. And then she's like, all right, I'm ready. Thank goodness we were like, all right, let's start trying. I'm ovulating. Two months into it, three months, we were pregnant.

And that was our first one. And then seven years or whatever it is later, she's like, I'm hitting 35, which I didn't know until we started trying with the snow. And they're like, yeah, she's like, I'm going to be geriatric to have a baby. I'm like, wait, what do you mean? You're 35. I just learned this too. I'm like, that's an ice cold 35 to call it geriatric pregnancy. Yeah.

Because we had one. And I don't remember them saying, maybe I just don't remember it, and i don't remember them saying maybe i just don't remember it but i don't remember them using that term i feel like we were um not an elderly or advanced or something like that i feel like this i would have been like geriatric because my my daughter's mother was 41 she was born 39 when she got pregnant i was 41 yeah and yeah we're well over into a geriatric pregnancy and and and it's not 35 was the number and i was like that's so interesting and but yeah she knew and she's like i think if we're gonna do it we should do it now and i was like are you sure like i'm

gonna be getting 49 and stuff um and she was like yeah like i really want one and stuff i was like all right let's do it and you know this one was a little bit, like I really want one and stuff. I was like, all right, let's do it. And you know, this one was a little bit longer. Like she even got worried at one point it was like five months in six months. We still weren't there yet. And then, uh,

you know, we started doing some funny little things. She read on the internet, like I hold her by her ankles upside down, trying to shake change from her pockets, uh, trying to like gravity take effect and stuff but yeah after about six months so yeah both both were planned and it's funny though she was just saying yesterday

which she might get mad my wife's funny because she thinks i'm funny but not everything i do is funny but hopefully she don't get mad at me saying this but like uh two nights ago we had we made love and you know she hasn, she's still breastfeeding. But the doc said, look, man, you're at the months where like it could happen. Even though you haven't had your period menstrual cycle, you can get pregnant. And so we've been being careful about that. But last night I wasn't, or the night before, I wasn't careful. And she's like, you want to have a third baby?

And I was like, oh, I don't know. I was like, but don't stress about it. I was like, I don't think my swimmers are that strong right now. They're strong enough. You're just 50 and you're having a baby, basically. And you never know. But I'm just saying, I tell her, I don't think I'd hate it. Again, I love my kids and it's such a beautiful thing.

But it would be a lot. But I'm like, we're trying not to have a third. But yeah, she was like, can you imagine having a third? I know sometimes I'm on the plane, man. I'll see a husband and wife come on with like four or five kids. And I'm just like, how? How do they, you know? And they're all like, you know, three, five, eight.

Like they're all close. Yeah. Anyway, but yeah. yeah it's yeah these people actually loved each other and put some thought and time behind it so it is it's a great thing and again i'm a little tired but it is again having a boy and a girls it's been awesome so well the childhood you're giving your kids is already way different than yours so let's talk about that you're from Jersey yeah you never knew your biological father yeah no so I have I have a brother and sister from him as well no so we all have different fathers

okay and me and my sister never met our well, all three of us really never met our fathers. But my brother, he's the oldest. He's eight years older than me. My sister's four years older than me. But my brother got to meet his dad once. Yeah. So my mom was a dope fiend. She sold drugs.

She used drugs. She wound up dying from AIDS. Oh, man. How old was she? She was 53. 53. Yeah. How old were you when that happened oh i forgot it was we were just i was just looking at something the other day it was she would have been 70 something so it's like 20 years ago 20 something years ago i was in my 25 i think matter of fact

i know it was right after jam bob strikes back which was 2001 okay um because i remember we came back from shooting the movie um and i took care of her for a little bit and she passed away and then i went like on a spot i was sober so you did get to see her yeah i did get to come home take care of her for a little bit and then she passed and then like i went on a real bender then and that's sort of when the first around the first time i got sober ish for like four years and um but your mom has three children three different men yes and the only one that even gave a shit for one second was your oldest brother's dad yeah um but did you ever in your life have you ever met your bylaw do you even know who he is i don't and i the bummer is you want to know i would, I would, well, I'm, I don't necessarily would want to know him,

like spend time with him, but I'd love to see a picture of him. That's what we, my main thing is, I'd love to see a picture because I'm so curious. Plus he has, and again, if my mom told me the truth, cause again, I would ask questions every once in a while and I wasn't with her. Um, I mean, it's a real, so like she would get high and then she would get sober and I'd spend some time with her. Then she'd relapse and I'd go live with my grandma. She, and then she'd get better, so on and so forth.

So when I was younger, I would start asking questions and I remember she would tell me like for a minute, I thought his last name was Stanka, but I don't think it was because we researched and did all this stuff. I don't believe so. But anyway, she had told me the reason they didn't stay together is because he was married and had three kids. So if she's telling the truth, I have three sisters out there as well.

Okay, so he's supposedly cheating on his wife with your mom. Finds out she's pregnant. So if that's the case, then you've got five total siblings. Yeah. Three from this and then the brother and the sister. Yeah. That you share your mom with. Yeah.

So that's another reason I would, it would be awesome to be able to find him. A, just to see what he looks like, but it would also be cool to find out if he really does well sorry if i really have half sisters do you have you done a 23 and me or any yeah we've i've done 23 together no so i've done the 23 and me and i haven't found anything found some cousins but always from my mom in that side but someone was telling me recently like you have to have to try. There's another one, I guess it's a little bit older. It's like the 23andMe. It's another company. But my buddy, one of my best friends growing up, he said,

the other day we call each other every year on our birthday. We've known each other since we were five. So even though he lives in Texas, I don't see him. We call each other every year and he has a family and we, you know, you lose touch, but we call each other every year. And last year when he, I called him on his birthday, he goes, yeah, I go, what are you doing for your birthday? He goes, I'm going out with my sister. I'm like, you have two brothers. What do you mean your sister? He's like, oh my God, I must not have told you. I found a sister. My dad had, when my dad

and mom got divorced, he had a, he was with another woman and had a kid and it's a girl and i have a sister so anyway and he was telling me this site he found her on this site um and he was just saying it's a little it's something like what's it i forgot ancestral.com ancestry.com and he said that one's a little bit more used because it was around longer and he's and he told me i should sign up for that because more people use that and i have a because i'm already on 23 and me maybe i could find it but anyway yeah so it would be you should also try to figure it out just honest to god i say this all the time to all these people even if you don't ever want to speak to him do you know if he's even alive i don't you have no idea no no health genetics yeah because that you're passing on to your kids too and you know what i mean 100 it's a lot of that

like any kind of diseases he might have had or any of that stuff if you can find out it's just a leg up on heart disease yeah any cancer any of it you know i agree especially colon cancer testicular cancer prostate all that shit well it's funny because i i remember when i started growing long hair i was like man i hope i don't lose my hair and that was one of the reasons i'm like i wish i could see a picture see my dad still has his hair you know but so what is it like being you're you're a child with no dad and your mom's a junkie and i'm sure she's out there hustling to do what she's got to do to get her fix and to raise you so what's that like like what are some of her hustles so i'm so weird because i forget many things growing up but one one thing i remember i swear

it's the clearest day we lived uh in in Highlands. And I remember one night waking up in the middle of the night, coming out in the living room. And my mom had like three people in the living room. And there was all these tube TVs around our living room. And I'm like, whoa, what's going on? She said, go back to bed, go back to bed. And then I like, of course, went in my room, but I was listening. They went to hotels and signed up in different names.

And it was way back with the tube not even flat screens that are right so they would sign in in different names and rip the tvs off the wall to sell them yeah for real they even steal the tvs from hotels and sell them yeah it's crazy and again because it was and it's still that one. And it's still that age where it was like, you know, first it was like the big box TVs on the floor that looked like wooden cabinets. So again, they were still like, you get a nice tube TV with the VHS, VCR inside, you know, you could probably get a couple bucks. So there was that. She also used to make me drive around, up to mailboxes you're dry are you old not to drive no no i'm a kid i'm probably 11 12 years old you're driving no my mom's driving

all right all right so my mom's driving she's making me you're the girl lean in take people's mail what do you still want like credit cards and shit like that she's fishing that was the big one that birthday cards are cashing in tell me me, 11-year-old kid. I didn't even think of that. I didn't even think of that back then. Yeah. Yeah. There's no digital fucking email cards.

No. Yeah. There was none of that. Apple Pay or nothing. What was your best day? Do you remember a day? You know, I know she would even get, here's the horrible thing. She would even get people's like license plates, you know.

Imagine you're waiting for your new license plate but we would go to the duck pond there's a duck pond in our neighborhood and we'd go and she would sit there and go through the mail and just throw like you know plates in the duck pond or like throw there's a big garbage bin she would burn the paper in the mail but i feel like her for her was credit cards some cash i remember one time getting like 100 bucks she'd get 100 bucks from me and if it was in 20 like throw me a couple bucks i remember she bought my one christmas present it was a christmas present that i really wanted a bike i didn't have a bicycle all my buddies had bikes uh i really wanted this sigma i remember clear

thing and it had like the covered wheels like the that you couldn't see the spokes because there was discs yeah and for christmas my mom got a credit card and like used the credit card to buy me this bike and the only reason why i know because i remember hearing my grandma talk to my aunt because when i wasn't living my mom i live with my grandma for a while then my mom got better and i live with her and then so on and so on. So that, and then another thing that I'll never forget is my mom used to bring me and my sister to the grocery store and she would steal cartons of cigarettes from the carton thing.

That and meat. That's back before they locked them up. Yeah. Yeah. And so she would come out, she would like go in the back and have me and my sister wear big fluffy jackets. And she'd be like, stick this meat down your pants. Take this carton of cigarettes. And she'd make my sister put carton of cigarettes in front of her pants and stuff.

Weird shit like that. But those are the three main hustles that she would involve us that I remember. Yeah, it was, you know. And again, it's one of those things when i was younger it's like we i hated doing it but at the same time it was this weird thing where it's like i i you know it's like i didn't want to disappoint my mom because i didn't see her as much and wanted to spend time with her i never wanted her to leave you know um but it's all you have yeah i mean really you have no dad yeah that's it and again and i love

my grandma and she took care of me a bunch but i really didn't want my mom to leave so i'd do it but the only time that ever annoyed me was because i'd like but i want to go play at my friends i'm supposed to go you know to the park with so and so and one of the what happened eventually well finally i had my mom like go away before she came home and was sick. I was 12. I remember about to ride my bike to my buddy's house. She goes, come here. She goes, take this envelope.

It's a card, a gift card for my friend. And I knew the guy. I don't want to say his name, but it was my brother's friend. So I knew him. She goes, so-and-so is down at the park. Give this to him. And he owes me money. So just get the money he owes me.

But this is a car. And how old are you doing this, Aaron? 12 years old. So you bike riding down there or whatever? I'm going to my buddies. I want to go. We're going somewhere. He's waiting on me.

No, no. Go do this. So I'm like, all right. So I ride my bike down. Give it to him. He gives me a car. He's like, oh, this is my cousin down give it to him he gives me he's like oh this is my cousin you know johnny whatever this is my cousin johnny i was like hey what's

up man and i was like here it is my mom says you owe me money and he gives me money so i ride the bike back give her the money two months later my brother picks me up from my buddy's house my buddy's house again um says we gotta take a ride and then we take a ride and she says listen do you remember going to the part uh the beach and meeting a so-and-so i was like yeah i remember that she was that envelope was filled with heroin and you sold drugs to him and an undercover cop the cousin johnny was an undercover cop so you like they want to press charges for you selling drugs i was like no way i was like i didn't know and stuff so i remember they my mom like found out disappeared we didn't hear from

her for about six months and then finally she calls to check in they say we're like my grandma's like look they're gonna charge him with this 12 years old if you don't turn yourself they really were gonna try they said they were gonna they put it in the newspaper and everything damn which was a real but they can't put your name in there though because you're a minor right no no yes but but everyone's a small town mile long you know the guy you initially gave it to not the cousin was he also a cop or was he working with the cop he was working with the cops because he got busted and he was even a really good friend of my older brother oh really so like my mom knew him i knew him um again another thing i never mentioned was my brother was never so me and my sister were sort

of dragged all over my grandma my aunt my mom when she'd get better but my brother's the oldest my mom was like 17 when she had him and she went to jail right after she had him like a month later so my aunt took him in and took care of him from a month old to six months old and then when my mom got out she knew she couldn't take care of him so my aunt adopted him so my brother was always around because he was with a family member but he was raised by the same woman his whole life so your mom's been addicted for a long time since her high school days or before then if she's already using at seven she's getting arrested at 17 yeah she was getting in trouble damn so yeah

and um what's your relationship like with her i mean when when do you ever get a time where you're like all right here's two years i got to live with her or was it always six months spurts or three you know what i mean you know did you ever have any consistency with her? Well, I did only after she got, excuse me, after she got out of jail. That's a good question. And I'm, you know, when I was younger, I don't, I don't know how long the stints were. Cause I was like, yeah, you're a kid. It's blinks.

Yeah. I never think I never thought of that. Like I'm trying, I definitely would maybe be a year or two. But you don't remember a time where like 10th grade to 12th grade, mom was clean and we were good. Nothing like that. It was always chaotic. Yeah. Because I remember like third grade, I remember we moved to this town and we were going to this different school.

So I was with her for about a year. I would say at the most it was a year and a half, two years. And then back with grandma. That's what I wanted to ask you yeah i was wondering if even though you're moving around this area it's a smaller area you're always maintaining the same school with the same friends are you having to meet new people a lot no same school for the most part except for one year in third grade we did i went to a different different school in this town called Kingsburg. So I went there for one year. But for the most part, it was all Highlands.

So your only consistency really was your educational system and those people you went to school with. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. My friends and my grandma. Because, again, I guess I spent most of my time with my grandma or my aunt. And then even at one point, family that lived in in highlands as well so um but yeah so that was that was it growing up then i moved out at 17 and then when my mom got sick and got out of jail what was she in jail for that time so that was so that was for

when she turned herself oh she did okay so she finally did it so she came in sorry i never finished that so she came back turned herself in um went to jail for for selling and for what five years so it wind up being no because i if it happened let's say she i was 13 so about five i think it was like six years okay so i think she got six years for that damn um i think it's supposed to be. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Prison. And do you go visit her while she's in there?

You do? It was horrible. Yeah. What's that like? Sorry. It was horrible because I just had to take a bus for like an hour and a half. They'd pick me up at this. This is what you had to do to see your mom.

Yeah. It was like, I think it was once a month, I think, that I remember. But I know we'd have to go and wait in this parking lot. A bus would come. I'd ride like an hour and a half to see her, an hour and 15 minutes or whatever it was. And, yeah, I'd spend time with her. The only thing that is funny because I had a picture,

and I don't have it anymore, but I remember one year I got to see her for Christmas, and it was literally a bunch of women, and there's one woman dressed as santa claus and like you see little jason jason muse like sitting in between like this a bunch of women and women prisoners yeah yeah oh my god it was i wish you could find that picture dude that's classic it's such a it's so it would be awesome i know i wish i had it because i would love to post that right guys we got the dates for 2023 locked maybe a couple more added la jolla i'll be back october 20th through the 22nd salt lake city finally coming back october 27th and the 28th hoping to see y'all out there batavia illinois my

first time going there very excited coming on november 10th and november 11th and san francisco to close out the year at cobs cannot wait to get back to one of my favorite cities in the country december 8th and 9th all tickets are available on my website at ryan sickler.com but the bummer is is so in 2001 when my mom got sick and i lived with her from you said she died of AIDS yeah yeah needles and stuff yeah from sharing yeah um and she got sick quick she got out of jail. Again, it's all blur right now because I don't talk about it that much, honestly. But when she got out, I went and moved with her because she was getting sick. And then like four years, me and my sister lived with her while she was getting sicker and sicker.

her um and the bummer is is then when she passed my i winded up going to um cal to california here because we were supposed to do the j and bob um press junket um and i was a mess kevin said when he pulled up to the house to pick me up to go to the airport so on j and bob if you notice i'm like a little fluffier in the face and because i was drinking because when i first got sober around that 99 i got sober for the movie to shoot the movie jam bob um i was like oh i can drink you know as long as i'm not using drugs i can drink and smoke weed and stuff but eventually i wind up using but i got fluffier because i was doing so much drinking it was all booze weight, all water weight. I weighed like 200 pounds.

And then when my mom, so Kevin dropped me off my house and whatever it was like two months later. So my mom passes away like a month later. Then I go on this bender for like a month or two months and I lose in like two months like 40 pounds from smoking crack doing oxys like heroin all this stuff so kevin picks me up to go to the press journey and he literally i come outside and he's like yo can you tell jason i'm here to pick him up he didn't even recognize that he wasn't even joking no because he said i was like i was so bad looking he thought i was just a friend that was like a cracky friend like coming out to say jason will be coming out in a minute that's

how bad i looked he said like he didn't even recognize me till i got up to the car door and like what are you talking about man then he realized and he started crying he started crying so then he we go to l we go to california and we i try to do the press junket but i'm a mess because i'm like sick at first then i wind up getting drugs and um he's like you got to go to rehab so i tell this story because then i go to rehab for six months or three months at this point and i'm sending my well really kevin's sending my sister money to pay for the storage she moves out and puts all my stuff in storage my sister's a crackhead it's a dope fiend as well she's using with her boyfriend and she spends all the money doesn't pay for my storage so like i said so everything i had all my pictures

everything i owned like all these pictures growing up but things i got from my mom is a bummer like got put in in storage, got sold off, like on, you know, storage. Yeah. Some of my out there's got your shit. I know, right? They do. They got your old shit. They might.

They got that picture of you and friends with the lady. They might. So let's rewind a little bit. When and why do you start using after watching your mom go through all this you said you were pretty you know militant about not using it when do you flip and what happened it's so weird yeah because it's true it's i was so i remember being so i remember even probably 14 years old 15 years old and one of my butt like a kid from school is like yo man i got some cocaine let's do it i was like no way man i'm never doing that so yes i was super against it

um i wouldn't even smoke i had cigarettes my sister used to smoke i was like i hate cigarettes i hate drugs um so you know if your father was an addict as well i don't i know he was a biker well again if my mom's telling the truth he was a biker that could have just had an affair and wasn't necessarily using yeah it stinks because i again it was like i was at the age where i was curious but never was curious enough to be like hey no i don't like want to know details like what's his last name where is he from like well i don't even know what state he was from or or whatever someone at one point they were like oh i think he lives in florida and the bummer is is even like no one of my mom's friends we live in this small town and my grandma didn't know my aunt they never saw him they said my

grandma said she thinks she saw him once and she wasn't even sure if it was him when i was born and came home from the hospital some man came out of the house and then my mom said oh that that's jay's dad but she said she wasn't sure if my mom was just you know saying whatever um so i didn't like drugs so 21 so i meet this girl it's still weird stories sort of but i meet this girl um that so my this kid i started hanging out with uh was 17 putting roofs on house, I'm a roofer. And I'm hanging out with this kid. He roots for me, excuse me. And he meets this girl.

They start dating and we would go hang out. But you know, like when, I don't know, when you're younger, you meet it, you start hanging out with a kid. And like, it's almost like when you first start dating a girl, like your friend's like, why aren't you hanging out? You know, like staying all the time with the girl. This kid, I hung out with him every day. I mean, I had other friends,

but me and him did everything together. We've worked together. After work, we'd go to do this, do that. So he started hanging out with this girl. So I would always tag along with them. And then they're like, hey, we're going to the arcade in Long Branch. We're going to go see my friend.

So we go to the thing, we're playing video games arcade in Long Branch. We're going to go see my friend. So we go to the thing. We're playing video games. It's awesome. And his girlfriend brings out this girl. And I'm not kidding. She was like a 10. I'm like blown away how beautiful I feel this girl is to me. And I'm like, oh, my God.

And we hang out, the four of us, for like a half hour at the arcade. She's on lunch break. She worked there. And I'm like, this girl's amazing. Like, I'm like, girl's amazing like i'm like got a big crush on her so then my buddy's like hey a couple weeks later we're gonna go hang out and go to this i hang out with him again and you know i'm trying to feel it out i'm like maybe i could hook up with her point is i never thought i had a shot with her a couple months later her

and i start fooling around then it come then i, maybe it wasn't months, but I find out they're using drugs. I'm 21, 21st birthday. And so sorry, I found out before they were using drugs. I stopped hanging out with them for about a month. I'm like, I don't want to be around that. You're using heroin. And I'll be like, we only snorted though. It's only a weekend thing. I'm like, I don't care. I don't want to be around that. And I was like, you know it's an only it's only a weekend thing i'm like i don't care i don't want to be around that and i was like you know why i'm to my buddy and he's like i know i know and so i didn't talk to them but i realized like i sort of isolated myself from all my other buddies my other buddy had a girlfriend i didn't hang out with him much my other this so i'm like getting bored and i see the dude at work all the time anyway so he's like come on just come out with us i wind up hanging out with him again then sorry then i hook up with the girl um and then if they're using only

on the weekends they're telling me so we start hanging out all the four of us all the time doing stuff going the movies doing this every once in a while i see them like nodding and doing stuff but i wasn't sure yet cut to 21st birthday i I'm like, yo, man, I'm 21. Let's go to a bar. We're going to go do this. I can finally go into this place and we can have fun. And they're like, man, we're really not, you know, we're all working all day. We're going to go to her house, my buddy's girlfriend's house, to go watch a movie.

Just come watch a movie, you know, the four of us. I was like, all right, we'll get a couple beers. So I get like, we get like a 12 pack we go there and then all of a sudden they're like they go in the bathroom they disappear and they come out and they're all like and i'm like dude this isn't fun like i like i'm drinking like three beers they start getting a little buzz i'm like you guys like i thought we're gonna do something have fun uh long story short um so then the girl they're like you don't understand you don't know what it's like i'm like i don't understand i see you guys not now dropping cigarettes on the ground

burning the rug and stuff and like you don't know how it feels you don't get it and more of just like i'm gonna prove it like i'm you're full of crap i don't give a crap i was like give me some i was like i'm gonna do a little bit i'll and then after I hate it, I'm going to tell you that you're fools because that doesn't look fun to me. And then I did it. That's how it started. Yeah. Oh, because a girl. But it's that powerful, huh?

Yeah. And then so I did it. Me and that girl laid together, dude. And again, I'm not glorifying it. It's horrible. But I'm saying for that one moment like i did i felt like i didn't care about anything me and this girl we were we were like in our own little bubble laying there watching a movie cuddling what movie do you remember the movie i don't i was so focused on

her and i got sick even though i got sick i still love that like because i was i felt great but then it's this weird throw up where it's not like when you're buzzing, you're like, I'm going to go. It's like, you're like, all of a sudden you're like, hold on, you know? And then you're like, all right, I'm good now anyway. Um, and, but yeah, it was great. And then I was like, um, I was like, all right, I understand. I get where you're coming from guys. But I was like, you know, I don't want to do it again.

But then of course, a couple of weekends later, they're going out. I do it again. And then next weekend I do it again. And then next weekend, I do it again. It's only the weekends for months. So I didn't physically get hooked on it. But no time at all. It became two days, Saturday and Sunday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, to every day. All right.

But I'm never going to- It's just heroin? I say just, but- Yeah. I don't remember at that point, maybe I tried a little Coke with it or what have you. But I remember at one point I was like, all right, but I'm never going to use needles.

I'm only going to snort it. Never, ever. And it was probably a couple of years before I did the needle, but- And that scared the shit out of you. It is. It is, and I still didn't think I'd do it. But I remember when you're sick, you're so desperate. You really are.

Like the physical feeling and mental, it is like the worst, I feel. But anyway, so I just remember we only had enough money. So now it's years later. I'm with a different girl. And me and this girl had like literally 20 bucks. We had enough for each to have our own bag because it's $10 for a bit, but I needed to just to feel normal. It wasn't even going to get high. I just walk around normal. And I'm like, I'm not going to be normal. Like we're going to

do this. It's going to be a waste. And my buddy's like, yeah, but remember if you shoot it, it doesn't go through your body. It goes straight to the vein and you need a lot less than what you do if you snort it and i'm like no way i can't do it like listen and then of course the girl that that neighbor came over and she i didn't know this but she used she's like i'm a nurse she started using i'm a nurse i look i have a brand new bag it never opened clean with clean needles so that it's in a sealed bag and then the needles are in the little cupboard too. And everything's covered three times over. They're definitely safe and clean. I was like, all right.

But I was like, I can't do it myself. And she's like, well, I'm a nurse. I can do it. And then she did it. And then you don't want to ever go back the other way. It's like a whole other feeling, whole other thing. And that was it, man. I just went like, I just went on a tear.

Yeah. Then I just got worse and worse. And I was remember hiding it, trying to hide it from Kevin and everybody, you know, and, and, uh, yeah, man, it's, it was, I see a story or something about he, did he see track marks on you or something like that? Or something happened where he got really upset? Yeah. I mean, yeah.

He definitely stole from mean yeah he stole from him i stole from him yeah yeah i stole i stole so how'd you do that so he i stole money he had his wallet on the counter and he had a couple like couple 20s and i remember taking 20 bucks from him did he catch you no he didn't catch me in the moment but he just knew he knew i had taken it like he knew how much he had i was sitting by his wallet later on he didn't catch me in the moment, but he just knew. He knew I had taken it. He knew how much he had. I was sitting by his wallet. Later on, he didn't have that much money. Because he didn't have hundreds.

He had 320s, and I took one. So then all of a sudden, he's like, I know I had $60. Now I have $40. And he's like, because I told him. Because I feel like he might have known before that, before I stole from him. See, I don't know if I, because I know his big thing is I told him, I said, I'm not, as long, I think because I was talking about how like I would never steal. As long as I never steal and never do anything shady, then I'm not that bad of a drug addict.

You know what I mean? But I'm trying to remember when he first realized. I mean, there's been a few situations with Kevin where when I relapsed, he found out one time because he picked me up. We went to go to Vegas to go. He had a meeting and he left me and i was like i don't want to go out to dinner but i had been clean for a little bit and can i stand if i stand up it'll mess up the thing huh so he he i'm like i don't want to go to dinner and stuff

but i stayed i stayed in and used and i got so messed up he said said when he came in, and I don't remember this, but he said when he came in that I was standing up in the middle of the hotel living room going like this. Sleeping, standing up. I see this all the time. It's crazy how you stay up. Yeah, but then he said all of a sudden I got up too, and I was like. Shadow body.

Yeah, and he said he was like, Jay, Jay, Jay, what are you doing? And he said, he threw a pillow at me and it startled me, but he's like, he knew right then he's like, you're using again. Like, um, so that was the, and again, so that was after I relapsed, but yeah, it's been, it's been crazy. I mean, the good thing is like, he's been, you know, again, I really do feel like I owe a big part of me getting sober and staying on the right track was because of him. Because it's like he was always there.

Like, you know, the first time we went was he threw me in rehab. I don't remember where it was. But and it might have been it might have been. It's so weird i can't remember right now when the first time he realized i was using because i but but the first time it was definitely before that time you walked out of the house and he said hey can you tell jason i'm here to get him yeah no no no yeah because again that i had gotten sober it was because the the dogma because it wasn't dogma. I was chasing Amy.

Yeah, because I started Mallrats I wasn't using. It was after Mallrats. Mallrats is 95. So real quick, I wanted to ask you this. Did your mom ever get to see one of your movies? Did my mom ever get to see one of my movies? Yeah. With Mallrats?

She would see Mallrats, right? Yeah, she would have seen Mallrats. So she got to see Mallrats. She got to see clerks. And I feel like chasing Amy as well. But yeah, she knew what I was doing and stuff. She was proud of me. She was excited.

And what she was really excited about, you know, one of the sweetest things someone did one time is when I didn't live out there, I still lived in New Jersey out here. I mean, I lived in New Jersey. When I'd come out to do things, I wind up meeting Pauly Shore. My mom's a huge fan of Pauly. Yeah. And I tell him, and he winds up calling her and saying hello to her, and it made her day. And then even after that, when I was like, hey, man, thanks. That was so nice and sweet.

I get back home. He winds up calling me and goes, give sweet i get back home he winds up calling me and goes give me your address and he winds up sending my mom a bunch of stuff like science yeah oh it was so sweet like it was again because at this point she's like she's like really sick and like anything you know it was so it just was really it really made her day it was such a for me it was such a like sweet thing for him to take time and do that like you know he was so it just was really it really made her day it was such a for me it was such a like sweet thing for him to take time and do that like you know he didn't have to so but yeah so she got to see some movies and stuff and um at your lowest describe a day what is a day like for you

where are you living what are you doing for hustle money like what is at your lowest what is it like so so i feel like one and one of our my lowest points when i when i went to get sober the first time so it's a weird thing i had four years sober and almost five because again i've had months sober here and there over the years from when i started but i'm but i'll tell the story so i i'm using i get i get better and then i start using and relapsing and i wind up meeting this girl and we start using real bad and we're living she has an apartment at this point she has an apartment she's doing okay um she has a job and stuff and i move out to huntington beach and i'm living with her in her apartment, but we start using a bunch. And she's using more and more because she had used when I met her.

And she even had the dealer, but she didn't have the money and didn't really have the drive to do it every day. She was doing it a lot, like every weekend almost. But her thing was speed too. She really liked speed more than anything. So then i started doing speed which was crazy but anyway going from down to up yeah yeah so now i'm doing like speed now we do dope to come down and then all this stuff but we're living there months go by we're getting

worse and worse uh i'm out of money she's out of money and our lights get a power gets shut off at the apartment. We're getting evicted, all that stuff, and it's Christmas time. So we're there in the dark at nighttime. We get up, this is so sad. We get up enough money to get a little bit of drugs. We go down to our dealer, and I remember we're going to like, all right, we're going to have enough dope drugs to feel better and maybe get a little bit high, maybe. But we're going like all right we're gonna have enough dope drugs to get feel better and maybe get a little bit high maybe but we're gonna feel good for Christmas but all of a sudden I remember that the dealer was like you know what it's Christmas and he winds up giving us like

double what he what we paid for he gives us double and he's like Merry Christmas and I remember we're like oh my god this is the best Christmas present ever. We were so excited, which is so sad. And we get home. We're in the apartment. We're used it. We're shooting up and stuff. And we have no lights.

We have candles on the edge of the couch. And the bathroom's upstairs. And I'm just too lazy to grab one of the candles and try to hold it up the stairs and put it so so like we would hang out and like not out and stuff on the couch and then i would go in the kitchen and pee in a bucket no i swear so i'm peeing in the bucket also at this point we're like just a mess so we like use a syringe and throw it on the ground so like the living room has like syringes on the ground there's a bucket of pee two candles burning me and her and all of a sudden we're like wake up she winds up

waking me she goes get up get up and i look and i can feel the heat on my face and the couch is on fire holy shit candle had burnt down to the bottom and set the couch on fire and i'm like why are we having i mean is it just because we're on drugs that we're putting candles on the edge of the couch in the first fucking place? Yeah, yeah. That's what he said. And there's no, like, nice, like, we didn't even see more than enough to put it on, like, a plate or something.

Just straight down. We got to be able to see what we're doing and stuff. And I'm, like, panicking. I'm like, I got to put it out. So I run over and grab the bucket of piss and throw a bucket of piss. Oh, no, dude. You put a fire out of the bucket of piss and it's so nasty and i just remember like after we like go outside because it's smoking we're like the firemen are gonna come the cops probably we're

like panicking we're gonna get arrested we're an apartment complex yeah we're an apartment complex and i'm like i don't know what to do so we wind up just getting a bunch of our stuff and we wind up getting out and our buddy says we can stay at his house so and i my other buddy winds up coming up i had this other friend who he was a real good bud but he was trying to get back home to to where he lived he was in california to try to see his daughter and get his at his uh self you know he's trying to he wasn't a drug addict but he just was like living in in a different state he went to cali got a job was trying to get an apartment and get his life together so his wife would let his sorry not wife but girlfriend would let him see his daughter he was a mess too though he kept losing jobs and stuff but he had a

car he was better off than me um He had a little money saved. And then he goes, look, man, I'm going to go back home. He's like, if you want, you can drive with me. And then I had a warrant out for my arrest because at one point in 99, I got pulled over driving home from Newark, New Jersey to go home with heroin. We get pulled over because we get into an accident and we still go get drugs come back home and right before like literally five blocks from our house the airbag went off but we pushed the airbag back in so kevin rides up right now and clerks too there's a part where the guys come up and they're like yo man where you been and we're like yo we just did six months in rehab we got pulled over over for deployed airbag.

Like Kevin winds up right in his, um, cause Jay and clerks too is sober. Jay and Bob are in stuff. But anyway, so we get pulled over for real. Cause the front car is like halfway falling off the bag, like, like blew up, but like we pushed it back in. So it was hanging out and we're driving and we get pulled over and I'm like, oh my God, I should eat my drugs. I should eat my drugs.

I'm like, they're not going to search us but they wind up searching us we get arrested and i get arrested for possession and they've released me ror and then i go to jail i mean i go to court get probation but then i wind up moving to california and so i have a warrant out for skipping yeah for probation uh and skipping the state leaving state and stuff um sorry so at this point i wind up going to california and i get off i'm even worse shape and that fire happens and my buddy's like look i have to go back home and he lives in uh rhode island and he's like i will drive to to Rhode Island and then from there we'll see if we can get home so you could turn yourself in because at that point I was at so I feel like my bottom like you said that I'm like I need to turn myself in because either they're gonna put me in rehab or they're gonna put me in jail which I didn't want but I was like what do you face

some one of the charges you're facing a year? A year. A year. One year in jail, yeah. For possession of heroin. Yes, but then for possession, but more for, I guess, this- Was it a hit and run as well? No, because we actually stopped and talked, but sorry. So the year was, so I had four years, four years for the drugs, but then they gave me four years probation, but they were going they gave me a four years probation, but they were going to give me a year in jail for, for messing up my probation, I believe.

Oh, for something like that. Yeah. So I knew that it was going to be about a year if I go to jail or I'm hoping I'll get put in rehab. And so we, we wind up, my buddy winds up letting me jump in the car and we drive to his, to Rhode Island. And things just got worse. So we stopped in Tennessee. We meet some girls.

We stay with them. I meet, start shooting speed with this whole crew. And I'm like hanging out this speed house, which was so crazy, man. It was such a weird thing. Like windows are blacked out with spray paint and people are DJing in separate rooms.

Cause they're staying up all night doing speed and people are cleaning the kitchen. It was really weird. It was really weird. It was. It was. The opposite of the heroin. Yeah. Yeah.

But anyway, so I wind up turning myself in and I get six months of rehab, luckily. I do six months. And then I got out. Kevin stuck around the whole time he'd come visit me he gave me at one point uh in three after three months if you're doing good you can get a job and he had uh our the view of skill which was our comic book store and then you know we had our jambob merch and stuff um and so he i had a job at our store shipping stuff which really wasn't i'd just go hang but it didn't help out and stuff um but it gave me something to do and and uh i got

through the six months and then i got had almost four years at that point um but i got kidney stones i stopped going to meetings right so after about three years i stopped going to meetings i'm good i and i do i feel good i mean i was working out i was all feeling good and stuff and i'm like i don't need meetings really um but then i i get kidney stones and i have to they're like look you're not going to pass the stone unless we give you a shot of demerol and some painkillers to because otherwise you're tense and it won't pass and i'm like i can't use painkillers to, cause otherwise you're tense and it won't pass. And I'm like, I can't use painkillers. I'm an addict and stuff.

And they're like, look, you have, if you want it to pass, you got to get this shot. And I was like, all right, I'll be fine. Shot a Demerol, man. I got that feeling again. Like I got when I was 21 with that girl, I was like, oh my goodness. And I'm like, all right, I'm fine now. You know, I just got to take my prescription as prescribed which lasted about four days and then i'll send them counting by four day four i'm like take it was take one that one every three to

six hours right so i'm like it's almost three hours it's almost three hours you know by week two i'm like oh it's two and a half hours it's only 30 minutes shy i'm not really relapsing and then i took my whole bottle and then i had a buddy who was like hey man how you doing i minutes shy i'm not really relapsing and then i took my whole bottle and then i but i had a buddy who was like hey man how you doing i'm like i'm good but i'm out of pain medicine and uh my doctor won't give me more and he's like oh i have a buddy who has a you know some extra um neuron uh well the i forget the name of it's been that long which is great it's not vicodin it's another one but percocets not the percocets there's an oxycontins no not that good because vicodin has is 750 yeah yes so there was another one in between and i don't know how i'm blanking

on it and it don't matter but it was i think it was like 10 milligrams um of the the codeine that's in it or whatever and only like 500 or 350 of the tylenol so it just anyway i think i have that acetaminophen i've got that one it's hydrocodone with tylenol in it yes i got that but but the this is supposed to be better than vikid and yes because if you take like five vikid and you're taking a whole lot of acetaminophen okay but these other ones they're the same really but there's just a different name and i can't believe i'm blanking on it but anyway so i he winds up giving me some of them then i he winds up giving me some and i think it's prescription but he's like well you know he actually sells them he can get more so i wind up getting more more and next thing you know it's a year later but a year later i'm no

lie just to feel normal because in my head i'm like as long as i don't do heroin i didn't really relapse and i'm not that bad right as i was before because i had almost four years um is i was taking like 20 of these just to get this is what i hear from everybody that shows like yeah your body really builds a tolerance because i feel like 20 advil for me i would throw up yeah but over time yeah 20 there some people are telling me 30 i'm like a day yeah yeah one every hour almost yeah well i would do 20 at once in the morning no i swear by the end 20 not over the course no i would take five drink five drink i swear just i thought you meant over the course of the day oh no would take five, drink, five, drink. I swear. I thought you meant over the course of the day.

Oh, no, no. I was taking like, on a good day, if I had the money, enough money, and the guy had enough, I was taking probably about 50. 50 a day? I swear, yeah. Is that eating through your stomach alone? Yeah. Sometimes I would taste it through my liver.

Like, it was weird. It was crazy. But yeah, it was a mess. Holy shit. It was bad. It was really bad. And so that was that time. was bad it was really bad and and so that was that time and then it got really bad and then i winded up going into uh then i detoxed again and then i winded up and now

so i forget that little period i forget how long it was so i think it was a couple weeks got out um started doing the podcast jam bob get old and three after i had three months sober and then we started counting you know podcast kevin i was like kevin started letting me hang around he was really disappointed with me at this point he's like i'm not gonna like i'm not gonna like start hanging out and doing things so like i could see that you're gonna like why do you think you relapse and i explained to him i felt like because i stopped going to meetings i stopped being accountable to people i stopped talking to people and sharing what like you know but when i got the painkillers i was like man i'm really liking this and i don't know what to do i'm like scared but i didn't i just started dating the wife i have now um we had been together a couple

well at that point probably about a year and a half two years i that's timing's all messed up for me but anyway but i i you know like i said if we got a new apartment me and her were out uh playa del rey so all my friends were in there hollywood so i didn't really no one wanted to come visit every once in a while so my point is it was me and her every day just hanging out she would go do her thing come home you know so i didn't really and i told him that i was like i feel like I should have shared. I should have talked to her about it even. But I was scared to tell her. And I didn't share with anyone like, hey, I finished my prescription.

I'm loving the way I feel. I want more or anything. So he's like, well, if we do a podcast, I want you to share. Like, I want you to be accountable. He's like, if you share, tell everyone how you're feeling every day tell some stories tell this then you know you can be accountable yeah yeah and it was great because you know it got to a point where i was like hey i have a year sober and we'd have you know uh 800 people at a live show and and they'd be like yeah and all i would i would literally like we'd like we have a show and tomorrow too and i'd go to sleep that night like have a dream

that i've relapsed and i'd have to get on stage and be like sorry everyone i have one day sober you know and it frightened me though it helped it like helped sharing with everybody everything um and then being accountable like after time if people start listening to podcasts online and stuff i'd be in starbucks and so on be like yo i love the podcast how many days sober you have you know that's great um and right now uh speaking of that so today's september so it's uh july august september to september right now yeah so september 2nd was 13 years and two months thank you thank you so yeah it's it's been you know we stopped the podcast a while ago but it was a big help it really was um again the

podcasting you know podcast is awesome and we do it so you were saying i wanted to ask you something sorry you were saying earlier you do this show too do you do just stand alone stand up when you do your live shows or do you do like a no i do stand up when i do my live shows yeah come see me on tour at stand up. But I started asking people. Something happened to me at the beginning of the year where I went for surgery, and then they let me lay so long I clotted and almost died. And they were like, look, you should make calls. It's touch and go for you.

So I started asking people if anybody in the audience. My first stop, Fort Wayne, Indiana. Has anybody in here ever been given that notification? And right away, some lady's like, I actually died. And I was like, you died and came back? And it's like, yep. And then, boom, every city I've been to, every city. I was just in Tulsa.

There were three people that died in Tulsa, two of them in Springfield. There were two in Tampa. There was one here in Burbank. there were two in tampa there was one here in burbank like yeah it's wild to know how many people have been officially declared dead called and then been brought back and they every at least one person in every weekend so far so it's turned into a bit of a five minute talking to the crowd if they got it but it's just stand up yeah yeah yeah that's crazy every city dude listen yeah every city and i want to say like what a hell of a story you have i've been a fan for a long time bro this is your college for me

and everything else and i want to thank you so much for coming on here thank you and sharing your story i'm proud of you 13 years hell yeah i mean a new dad you got a baby bro good luck to your knees good luck to those knees and you're back yeah um last thing i want to ask you i always ask everyone's first time here especially after what we've talked about um advice you would give to 16 year old jason um you know i i would say i would say because i always think at first i would say don't do drugs but again i feel like there is so much it's part of what at this point so many things have happened and stuff but honestly i would say and it might be a not a great answer but smoking smoking for me was so hard to stop

even more than drugs or anything really smoking cigarettes was harder than heroin because that's what you always hear like it's harder than heroin no really and i don't want to stay harder and harder in the sense because believe me i wouldn't say i would feel the same way of how i would feel if i was sick but i'm saying if i quit heroin and quit cigarettes i'm sorry the cigarettes was so hard because i get you can do it in public you can do it so accessible and it's legal to get it the habit of it all like you know I'm saying like and I and again it might be a cover but I feel like I struggle with it because it's it's caused fights with my wife and all that again I haven't been smoking now for months but it took so long even

after my when I had my daughter I was like I have a kid now I'm not going to smoke. And, you know, I, I didn't smoke for like a day and a half. And then I snuck a cigarette and, you know, it just took so much. And again, I don't know. I just feel like it's, I feel like it's aged me a little bit more than it would have normally my, my teeth. Like, you know, it's, it's probably one of my biggest things. I'm sure there's another answer. If I had more time to think of. If someone sat me down and said, let's think about this. But I do feel like it's a big thing that really sticks to me is the smoke and over time how hard it is for me, how hard it was.

Well, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you. One more time, promote the cruise everything please cruise uh is at 2024 february 23rd to the 26th we're going from miami to nassau bahamas uh it's the jay and solon bob uh cruise askew uh we're gonna have a bunch of people on there doing podcasts live music uh some tournaments for poker and some other things uh jason lee will be there he's playing me kevin smith um aj wilkerson uh for stand-up comedy a bunch of stand-up comedians a bunch of activities to do come check that out twitch.tv forward slash jmuse i stream every day sometimes

it's only an hour because i got the kids sometimes it's three hours i unbox things i play video games uh and stuff like that but i also do my step jay muse and his amusing stories i don't have any dates set right now but check it out jay musing is amusing stories uh and i have my own website too jay muse and all my socials jay muse jay not jason j-a-y-m-e-w-e-s is my instagram and twitter and website and all that good stuff. So check it out. Well, thank you, brother. And as always, RyanSickler.com.

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