The HoneyDew with Ryan Sickler - Ms. Pat - HoneyPat

Episode Date: March 13, 2023

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Starting point is 00:01:23 these are the stories behind the storytellers. Very excited to have this guest here. First time on the Honeydew. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Miss Pat. Welcome to the Honeydew, Miss Pat. Thank you for having me. Thank you for being here. It's been a long time. We've been trying to make this happen. We have. We've been back and forth and back and forth. I come here and I can't make it. So thank you for being patient. You're welcome. Thank you for being here.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Look, I'm really excited to talk to you. But before we do, plug and promote everything you want to promote, please. Go to MissPatComedy.com for all my tour dates. I have a TV show called The Miss Pat Show on BET+. They just dropped the third season yesterday. So make sure you go and watch the new season of the Miss Pat Show. If you're not familiar with the Miss Pat Show, you got three seasons to get into, okay? Three funny-ass seasons.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Yeah, I've watched it. I watch it. Thank you. Yes, I have BET Plus because I sign up for all kinds of packages. And I wanted to say again, too, I said it to you before we were recording, but congrats. Because to get even a second season these days with everything that's out there is huge. So to have a third one, you're really doing something. You know, we work really hard over there to stick out.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Because, you know, BET Plus is a new platform. I don't even think they're three years old. If they're three years old. So did you start your first season when they launched then well they was already out so they might be four years old so when we first got there they was pretty new and so i was a little worried in the beginning i'm like oh i when when they told us bt because it was hulu show they did it they dropped it and so we were sitting there waiting bt plus picked it up and i was like what the hell is bt plus Never heard of it. And then when we got into it, you know, I tell my co-creator all the time, I say, I think we're at the right place.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Well, they allow us to be us. Ain't nobody there that don't understand what it is to be us in America. They understand that the jokes we're writing and it brings over. I know the Miss Pat show brings over a lot of diversity for BET Plus. So, you know, I was just happy they picked us up and they rolled with us. They let us go there. Yeah, what I love about you, though, is you jumped in back with all of us a long time ago. Ari and Eric Abrams and those guys, like even before everything got crazy and popular. And you've been right there in the pocket the whole time just killing it.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying. You know, my first podcast I ever did was Eddie Elf's. Was it? Eddie Elf first? Eddie Elf was the first. I didn't know what the fuck a podcast was. Didn't know anything about podcasts.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Somebody was, one of my friends was listening to Eddie Elf at the time. He was like, I want somebody with some real stories. And he's like, you should try this podcast, y'all. What's a podcast? So I flew out to LA and I did it. You did. And the next thing I know, I was getting invited on every white boy in the city podcast. I felt like a hooker. They were just passing me around. More stories, more stories, more stories. Well, your stories are unlike anybody's stories. I mean, and you've got an unlimited supply of them.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And I have my favorites. Jimmy Carter is one of my favorites. I just did that on Jimmy Kimmel. I love it. Shot Through the Titties is one of my favorites. Yes. Selling drugs outside while you can look right in the school window. This is one of my favorites, too.
Starting point is 00:04:44 There's so many of them. Before the school zone went up. No drug school zone went up. Oh, yeah, that's right. Now you can't do that. No, I was grandfathered in by the time. They realized that shit was even a law. I was like, y'all ain't talking to me
Starting point is 00:04:56 because I was here before these little ugly sign was. So here's what I do want to know because the wild stories, they're out there. What is life like now for you like because i know i'm from baltimore i'll never lose that chip on my shoulder i always have my shoulders up and there's always at least one finch fist clenched how how do you adapt to quote unquote regular life like you said you told me before you live in an all-white neighborhood like what is life like for miss pat once you get out of that lifestyle let's say you talk about out of the uh celebrity lifestyle no not not the celeb i'm talking about what is life
Starting point is 00:05:36 like just even if you what is it like leaving a life of drugs crime all of that like that transition well i've been married almost 30 some years so um but now you're telling these stories and people your neighbors are hearing this the people your kids go to school with they're hearing this what is life like for you i mean everybody's interested in the stories i don't think people really judge if they do they don't say shit and if they do i don't care because i don't get any people that slide up to you at the events or whatever like i heard, I heard you on that. You know, I had, with some time, they hear me all the time on Rogan and they love the stories.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And the ones that don't, like I tell them, I say, hey, I'm like a fast food restaurant. You're going to pass 10 more, 10 of them to get to me. So take your pick. I'm not here to please you. I'm 50 years old. I don't give a fuck. Are you 50? You look good.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I'll be 51 in April. I said, I don't give a fuck. Are you 50? You look good. Yeah, I'll be 51 in April. I said, I don't give a fuck. I don't have time to be, you know, like we did a bit just on season three of the Miss Pat Show, and we said Botox got more chemicals in it than the Flint River. And this lady was like, I'm going to write into BET for you. I said, lady, get the fuck out of my inbox, and I don't give a fuck. I'm bringing awareness to that shit because they stopped talking about it so get out of my inbox with this bullshit and it's tv and move along bitch yeah this isn't where you go for your yeah you know your complaints about flint
Starting point is 00:06:55 michigan and botox yeah so you know you you have people that that wants to judge you have people that have they love to say so to everybody but i. I say, you're mad because you can't do what I'm doing. That's why you're fat ass in behind your computer judging me. So I don't care. So you've been authentic since day one. I don't know how to change. Same. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I don't know how to be anybody different. I try to be a better me, but that's about all I can do. I don't know how to change. It took me two seasons to learn how to act. I said, oh, OK, I supposed to cry right here. I don't know how to change. It took me two seasons to learn how to act. I said, oh, okay. I'm supposed to cry right here. I think you do pretty good. I mean, all comedians.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I mean, no offense. I could see you taking another role if you worked at it, but comedians, I think any comedian that can act, I'm like, they're doing good. They're doing good. You know what? I remember saying to my, I say, Rogan, please just watch my pilot.
Starting point is 00:07:46 And Rogan was like, me pal don't really like watching my friends though because I don't like being judgemental. I said, watch it, Rogan. I'm telling you, just watch it and give me your honest opinion. And I think Rogan was out in the jungle somewhere on vacation that I could never fucking afford. Because I'm telling you, as he was typing the text back to me, I could hear the rain forest. I'm telling you, as he was typing the text back to me, I could hear the rain forest. What the fuck are you at, Vacation Rogan? So, and he texts back. He's like, this is nothing I was expecting.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And he was like, this is really fucking good. And I was like, well, you know, you have somebody from totally different walks of life than I am. And I and, you know, he gave me his honest opinion. He was like, if somebody don't pick this up, they're a fucking fool. And he watched it and he gave me his feedback. And I was like, oh, OK, I got something here. So even after Hulu dropped it, I always always stuck in the back of my head how much of a crossover this show is. It's not black or it's not white. It's just America problems.
Starting point is 00:08:48 What we do as an American people, human beings. I want to keep, I personally want to keep producing stuff like that. What are some of the challenges you have with
Starting point is 00:09:04 stuff you actually want to say you're due and then the network or the execs are like, we can't do that. We can't go there. What are some of the challenges with that? I'm a BT plus a streamer, so they don't say we can't, but they do push. If you watch the first season, at the end, me and my sister, Tammy Roman, who plays on the show, we had a big argument, a big fight, because she allowed my kids to bring drugs in the house, and she's an ex-drug addict. And, you know, I goes the fuck off in the wrong way.
Starting point is 00:09:42 And they was like, oh, my God, we don't want to see two black women fighting like that. And I had to tell the network, I said, people don't watch this show to put a bow on shit. This ain't regular TV. They can go over to CBS, ABC, or anywhere for that. I said, they watch this show because they feel what we're going through. And when I slammed that door and Tammy was on the other side of that door crying, I was on the other side of that door crying because we hated that episode. And people felt it. And, you know, the network kind of pushed back.
Starting point is 00:10:10 And I said, let me be me. You hired me to be me. You didn't hire me to be you. I don't give a fuck about you being uncomfortable. So we did an abortion episode. And I think, sometimes I think we hit too close to home for the execs and it fucks with them so they don't want it to be they don't want to see it so i just told him i said look it's it's authentic tv and it's my life let me be me so we've had a few pushback and we had some stuff that we had to remove you know which i remember we we did a derogatory episode and we were saying stuff like the N-word, chinks, and at the time people was
Starting point is 00:10:47 going around beating on Asian people. And I wanted to say a jap slap, which is an old term because I'm from the South and they didn't really know what jap slap was. I've never even heard that one. Exactly. I've never heard that one. It's a racist. I've heard a lot of racism.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I didn't even know it was racist okay because i grew up in the inner city of atlanta my mom said get out here for a jap slap your ass didn't know it was racist until my husband told me it was so when we was doing this derogatory episode we put everything in there and i said well we can say nigga but we can't say jap slap what kind of shit is this so they made it change it to chinks. And I'm like, chinks is worse. I'm going to say it is too. I'm going to say it is. I'm like, what are y'all talking about?
Starting point is 00:11:30 So we ended up changing the word to chinks. It was just. And that aired? Yes, it aired. And people loved the episode because it was saying how I'm 50 years old, but I got kids. And we're not eye to eye on what we can say. got kids and they don't we're not out of eye on what we can say back in the day you know your grandfather grandfather your grandfather daddy could walk around and say the n-word freely you're not going to be able to say that today and how old people don't realize times have changed but a lot
Starting point is 00:11:56 of people still stuck like when i was taking care of my father was down in council he'd be like i lived in i live in an all-white neighborhood he said these some nice crackers i say daddy these people ain't crackers okay you can't become these people crackers these crackers i grew up with and i'm like daddy but you know i didn't know um i said all you can't jip me and somebody's like you can't say that no you can't you can't say what's jip and they said it's a derogatory from gypsy i didn't know that and now you're shitting on the gypsies and i'm like what that's what that is i had no idea either no i didn't amazing like where you grow up you don't even know some shit's racist because everyone is saying it freely and openly.
Starting point is 00:12:45 And every kid, every adult you meet is saying it. It's because they look like you. It's because everybody look like you. Had y'all crossed that fucking railroad track, you'd learn you can't say that shit. Or it was racist. Really? Even Jip in your neighborhood was racist back in the day? No, we said Jip.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Oh, you did? What else? We said Jip. Jap Sl so jab slaps i've never heard that and it's crazy because i brought that word to the set i said yeah i gotta say jab slap everybody what the fuck is that they didn't even know it well i'm my co-creator is a 25 year 26 year old young guy so you know of course he had never heard it ever but i had to call a few people that was around my age. I was like, yeah, everybody heard the Jap slap, but we couldn't, you know, they wouldn't hear it. And it was all about derogatory words, but I was shocked nobody had heard it. But I guess it was a Southern thing because I'm born and raised in Atlanta. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:39 And you got to go check out the episode. Don't be in my box saying I'm saying nothing racist. I'm saying the words that have changed over the years that once was not offensive. That's very offensive now. And the whole episode as well. I'm 50 and what I can't say, which was shocking, you know, which and then I got my young kids and they're saying, you can't say no words, mama. And I'm like, wow, I can't. so it was a learning episode for all of us i hope i watched a video one time it was a politician and it's so funny because he's an older white dude but there's two younger white kids sitting behind him and the guy's redneck for sure and he's talking about his dad working with these people where he goes now you might want to get me at
Starting point is 00:14:23 twenty dollars but i'm gonna say you ain't gonna do me down and you see the two and he says it like it's his normal conversation he's an old white man these two young white kids behind him look at each other they're like did he fucking and you can see him on camera like oh shit and then all hell breaks loose and he's got to make an apology for it he's that old white guy and he's like yeah i didn't know that was offensive and they're like how the hell did you not know that one because he's been stuck in his own world that's right and he never came across that railroad track so nobody somebody would say you can't say that word that's offensive so you know you know that's why i really don't worry about what people say you know when i'm creating i'm like get the
Starting point is 00:15:03 fuck out of my inbox, okay? I know, I have a younger generation in my life, which I have my kids. Hey, can I have a gay daughter? I talk about, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:12 I create a lot of content about gays because my daughter is gay on the show. And I did a whole episode about him, them, there,
Starting point is 00:15:22 and her. And I had no fucking her and i had no fucking deal i somebody i had no idea people just go by him and him and her and i'm like when we did this shit i think it's called what is it called your pronouns yeah pronoun ginger you don't know what it is either gender what uh identity gender something and we did a whole episode on that well there's him her there's they them yes yeah and i'm like i've been joking with my stepson too like when you say they how many people are coming over you know what i'm saying we got one person coming over we got 20 coming over i did a whole episode i'm not trying to be
Starting point is 00:16:01 ignorant gender neutral yes that's my gay daughter so we did a whole episode on that. And I'm not trying to be ignorant. Gender neutral. Gender neutral. Gender neutral, yes. Love that she came in. That's my gay daughter. Yeah, she came in. So we did a whole thing on gender neutral, and I had never heard of that shit. And the first thing I thought my other daughter said, I thought she said neutrogener. Y'all shampoo now? So wait, let me ask you this then.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Can we talk about that? What? You're having a gay daughter. What having a gay dog well about you like were you right away accepting of it were you she was gay way before she ever said she was gay but you make it a comfortable place for her to come out and talk to you about it? Or were you? Well, she didn't never come out and talk. She just, you know, she went to college and ran off. And then I was like, hey, are you gay? She's like, yes. I said, well, come on home.
Starting point is 00:16:52 You can eat pussy in Atlanta. There's a whole bunch of pussy there you can eat. And I left it as that. I didn't give a fuck. I don't eat pussy. I'm not going to tell her. I don't want her to tell me not to eat Chick-fil-A. I'm quite sure pussy don't taste like Chick-fil-A.
Starting point is 00:17:04 But I'm not going to tell her what to eat Chick-fil-A. I'm quite sure pussy don't taste like Chick-fil-A. But I'm not going to tell her what to eat. That's her fucking mouth. All I'm saying is don't put the pussy on my table and eat it. But you didn't talk to her about that until she was in her 20s then, right? College? Well, she never came out until she went to college. But you asked her.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Yeah, I asked her, I said, are you gay? But you waited that long. I didn't give a fuck. But you didn't want to feel the need to have a conversation about it or anything that's what i'm saying as a parent you were like whatever she's who she is and i don't need to ask her no she didn't she didn't volunteer no information i didn't ask now i knew she was fucking gay she's the only one in the night she's the only one in my house one trying to get no dick everybody else was trying to get dick they was climbing out the window all on top of the roof going down street sucking dick she was the only one at the house reading gay books that's why i tell people i said if you don't know your child is gay bitch you are in denial
Starting point is 00:17:55 you're not paying attention you know i don't give a fuck what she do it's her life it's i don't care are your kids blown away by the upbringing you had? Well, that one who just peeked in here, she was there when I sold the drugs. You know, I kept her pampering. She pushed her brother down the street with the dope in his pamper. Is that where you would keep it? Yeah, in their pampers. You would?
Starting point is 00:18:20 Yeah, because a police officer can't be searching no baby drawers. That's child molestation. You got to be smart when you're selling drugs. I love the street rules. I love the fucking criminal mind. It's one of my favorite fucking things. You're right.
Starting point is 00:18:38 No cop doing it anyway. Even if a cop said you need to check that baby's diaper. You check it, motherfucker. I'm going to tell him you touched touch my, you finger my baby. The fuck away from my baby. You touch my dope, I'm going to tell everybody you fingered my baby. Oh, you like fingering babies, huh? Oh, that is not a fucking thing you want out there, man.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Yeah, he fingered my baby, your honor. But it was a whole, it was cocaine. Fuck the cocaine. I'm talking about his Yeah, he figured my baby, but it was a whole cocaine. Fuck the cocaine. I'm talking about his figure that went in my baby's ass. And I tell my baby, start crying. Start crying. Oh, my God. Tell me the scariest story you ever had of dealing.
Starting point is 00:19:21 I mean, you've been shot through the titty. I think that was the scariest for me well no i think how did it go through did it go toward the chest and then came out up and up through my arm and out out yeah i think the scariest one time when um when um it was uh when uh what's that drug dealer named paulo um pablo escobar. Pablo Escobar was getting all the dope in America. And I went to go meet a guy. It was a Mexican dude. It's Craftful Dollar Church now.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Before he bought the land over there, over on Cameltoe. No, I think it's on Cameltoe Road. I'm not for sure. It's called Cameltoe Road? No, Camelton. Okay. I don't think it's Cameltoe Road. I can't think exactly where it's called camel toe road no camberton okay um i don't think it's camera i can't think exactly where it at but um it was like shopping centers there so i went to go meet him about like a half
Starting point is 00:20:12 a key with my with my partner and um at this time i'm probably like 15 16 talking mad shit and i'm yelling at the mexican and talking shit and he just looked at me said i will put a fucking bullet in your head. And my friend was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And, you know, I didn't know nothing about all that shit that was going on. I whooped your motherfucking ass with them ugly ass boots on. My friend was like, shut the fuck up, bitch. And he was like, do you know who you're dealing with?
Starting point is 00:20:38 That's a cartel. And I was like, who the fuck is a cartel? I'm just trying to sell dope to make pamper money. I ain't trying to, you know, go to jail for real. but i think that was the most scariest moment once we got out of there and i realized how stupid i was and when they say it calmly like that too they don't even react like i'll put a bullet right in your head you're like that's what he's feeling he said i put a bullet in your fucking head fuck that so that was one of the most scariest moment i think i was like i could have got killed that day well what got you into dealing and stuff like that at that early age uh my kid's father uh my first kid's father used to sell drugs and so he ended up going to jail and i needed rent money so
Starting point is 00:21:16 i just took my welfare check and called flipping it you buy 250 for dope you cut it up you make 500 and so i just kept going from there. And you're taking a welfare check, using that to buy the dope. Just the first time. Then you double the dope. And then after that, you're off and running. I'm off.
Starting point is 00:21:31 I was off and running. And then I ended up back in my old neighborhood. And one night, I just went to go stop to say hi to some friends. And this is when crack was like, probably not even three years in the black community. Everybody was walking around like zombies. And my friend was like, if only we had some crack. And I was like, not even three years in the black community everybody was walking around like zombies and my friend was like if only we had some crack and i was like you need crack and he was
Starting point is 00:21:50 like yeah look at all these fucking zombies out here i was like i got crack and i think i sold like i probably sold like three thousand dollars worth of dope in like 10 minutes damn and he was like what age are you? I'm like 16. Oh, $3,000 back then at 16. That's like $30,000 in five minutes. Oh, I had more. At the time, you know, I had started to gain a name in the drug business. So people knew that I had created my own little trap.
Starting point is 00:22:19 And a trap is where you sell at. So I created my own little block. And I was making a shit ton of money. How many other women back then or even? Women dated drug dealers. Yeah. I didn't date them. Right, but how many are selling?
Starting point is 00:22:31 You? You the only female doing this? Well, they were, women were known to hold drugs for their boyfriends. I actually sold a dog. Yeah. So you're like the only,
Starting point is 00:22:41 and you're also a teenager. You're a high school kid. Are you still in school? No, hell no. When did you stop going to school? Eighth grade. Eighth grade. Yeah, I already had two kids.
Starting point is 00:22:49 So yeah, I was done. By eighth grade? Yeah. How old were you when you had your first kid? 14. 14? Mm-hmm. And then your next one at what?
Starting point is 00:22:57 15. So you got two kids as a teenager. Yeah, 16. Damn. 16. Before you had a license. I didn't have a license but i had a car because i was a drug you didn't fuck that license you got two kids get a license so you needed a parent you needed a guardian to take you to get to for the driver's test and i didn't have anybody
Starting point is 00:23:17 so i just had crackheads teach me how to drive crackheads taught you how to drive yeah crackhead taught me how to drive and who's helping you take care of these babies me i made a shit ton of money i'll take in my own fucking cell so what what was your like what was a good week for you uh drugs don't go by weeks drugs go by days all right uh those times i made like 15 20 000 a day a day yeah oh you don't need anybody to help i didn't need nobody did you have a nice little place you kept to? I had a nice apartment. Yeah, my kids dressed nice, and they went to school right there in the trap.
Starting point is 00:23:50 And, you know, I took care of other people's kids, and, yeah, I had a life. How many times do people try to rob you? I had a crazy baby daddy, so probably twice. And what are they coming for, the drugs and the money? They came for the money. The money? Yeah. I really would have thought they'd come for the drugs.
Starting point is 00:24:11 No, crackheads don't really rob you. No. Other niggas rob you. That's a rob. Crackheads, they just want some dope. They might steal your bomb, that means they're dope, but they ain't going to fucking put no piss in your face. So at what age do you
Starting point is 00:24:26 so 16 you got two kids and then when you realize you start wanting out of this at what age or do you need to get out of this what was it really you know i was just tired of the streets and i you know i went to jail did some time for what uh selling drugs you got caught yeah i did my my my cousin hid the dope wrong and so he issued a warrant for me and I got tired of running
Starting point is 00:24:49 what's wrong she hid it in a place where I told her not to put it and the police was on the ground up up up
Starting point is 00:24:58 up the street looking at us so he knew exactly where the dope was oh he saw it all yeah he saw it all so how long did you go I did a year.
Starting point is 00:25:05 A year? Yeah. Where? 14th County because I had other charges pending, so I didn't go down the road to prison. So I did all my time in the county because I had other court days. So they didn't want to keep transporting me. Plus, I had a really good lawyer that kept me in the county. And then you get out after a year and who takes the kids i had my baby daddy friend took the kids and it was the fucking worst ever but um i i i get out i start selling again and i'm like i'm sick
Starting point is 00:25:39 of this shit and i just started praying i said lord i need a i need a husband i need somebody gonna take me the fuck away from this shit. And popped up. I went to go see a comedy show, which was Bruce Bruce. You went to see Bruce Bruce? Yes. I love Bruce.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Hold that mic right here. My friend, my brother baby, my brother baby mama took me and she knew my husband brother. And we all just went out and I was like, hey, I'm hiring for a baby daddy. I didn't tell went out and i was like hey i'm hiring for
Starting point is 00:26:05 a baby daddy i didn't tell him i'm hiring i'm hiring for a baby daddy and so i'm like hey he wasn't really my type but i jumped on and we've been together 31 years that's the same guy same guy no shit yeah after a bruce bruce show well we started he like he would come over and visit and stuff and at the time i was moving there i was moving from selling drugs to check forger and so my husband oh i love that you're moving yeah you know when one thing play out you gotta get careers you gotta shift careers if not you get fucked up and so i'm moving to check forging and are you cleaning them and stuff are you doing all that no no no i was a, no. I was personal checks. We will fuck you up.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Oh, okay. You just take their checkbook. Yeah, I had a friend that, you just get them from crackheads and people break. You just buy checks all the time. So I ended up getting the checks and now I'm forging checks and shit like a fool. And I meet this man. He was like, what the fuck are you into? And he was like, do you know what you're doing with those people's checks? I said, what are you,
Starting point is 00:27:08 I'm making money. He's like, you're fucking up their lives. I'm like, you don't know them. He's like, and you don't either. And he just sat me down and he explained to me, he's like, what's going to happen to you if you go back to jail? Think about your kids. You want that man to have your kids and i remember throwing away my dopes and my chick and i said i'm going to get a regular job and i remember getting hired at mcdonald's and this shit sucked oh fucking bad this shit sucks going from drugs to mcdonald's oh my god i fucking hated it i hated it but i just i just, I stuck in it because I didn't want my kids to end up where I was. And I had such a good man who was willing to stick by me, you know, and help me.
Starting point is 00:27:53 And so I got, after I got my sister kids, I mean, after I got him, got married, I ended up getting cussed at my sister kids. Which, mind you, this man ain't got no kids. But right off the bat back he got six motherfucking kids sex total because i had two and i got custom my sister four and we just never looked back do you two have children together i have two with him two with him so you have four total i have four total so what was it about this man sitting you down and explaining this to you that that resonated with you because you go from being a street hustler to listening to this person tell you about these strangers. You don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:28:30 What hit you? What made you listen to that? He was a good man. And why do you say that? Based on what? He was respectful. He had a job. He was educated.
Starting point is 00:28:41 He had side teeth. He had. He said side teeth. Yeah. He had everything. I had he said side yeah he had everything i mean you know he wasn't he wasn't no thug he wasn't no fucking idiot he was like and what really attracted well he didn't go to college he was in military he had just got out of the military he was just something that i wasn't used to you know when, when you're that wild, you're used to me treating you a certain type of way. You know, and he just, he didn't bring none of that to the table. But also there's something in you that could easily be like, go fuck off with that bullshit.
Starting point is 00:29:16 I'm saying, what was it you were ready to get out of? And I didn't want to get killed and leave my kids with, and I know the daddy want shit, and leave my kids getting bumped around everywhere. So I just started, when I got with him, I just started thinking about my, when I did that time in jail, in jail, I really, it really opened my mind to what I was, I was handing my kids the same thing my mama handed me, same thing my grandmama handed her. Generation of curse. And I was like, I can't do this to my kids.
Starting point is 00:29:49 You know, I had been molested. I had been treated wrong. And I didn't want any of that to happen to my kids. And I remember when my daughter went to college, she was like, everybody got a child.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Everybody was molested except me. And I remember thinking, yes, I did my job. self me and I remember thinking yes I did my job I protected this shit out of her but I think I protected her so much she turned gay you ain't gonna get no dick okay mama I eat a click I forgot to say don't eat pussy while I was raising all that hell I Oh my God. I was totally focusing, don't you get no dick? Dick, don't you get no dick? I was just focusing on dick and forgot to say don't eat pussy.
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Starting point is 00:33:13 And my kids get on me. Hey, you so like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a very affectionate person. I love you, but I don't want you all over me. And I think it come because all I seen this lady do was cry and tears to me shows weakness okay and i just remember my mama crying all the fucking time i was like this bitch hell god damn can't you hold back these tears anytime and she cried about the same thing oh your stepdaddy left me and as i got older i realized why the stepdaddy left her she never won no job all she
Starting point is 00:33:45 did was drink and plus he had just bought her a brand new false teeth and the bitch ran them over he had them teeth on layaway for six months you said teeth yes you ran them over she ran her teeth over how do you run teeth because she got mad and said fuck these teeth niggas and put them up on her wheel and bagged up over them honest toest to God. He looked like he was crushed. Like the teeth. Yeah, the teeth are crushed. He was like, bitch, I spent all my money and had these teeth on that one and you gonna
Starting point is 00:34:13 run them over? You got the wildest fucking story. He left after that. He's like, bitch, I'm out of here. You're gonna forever have that hole in your mouth. And so he left. And you're just growing up with a depressed mom. Are you an only child?
Starting point is 00:34:30 No, it's five of us. Oh, man. It's five of us. She's just crying all day long. She cried a lot. And, you know, we pretty much raised ourselves. Your dad's not around at all? No.
Starting point is 00:34:39 My mom was 39 years old when she passed away. Whoa, that's really young. But if you saw her, you would think. And let's be honest, it's hard to tell black people age, but you would have thought she was about 60. Is that the alcohol? I mean, just constant drinking, just depression, never happy, but was the funniest motherfucker I ever seen in my life.
Starting point is 00:35:00 And I think that's how I became funny. When I tell you this lady was fucking hilarious, hilarious. Now that I think back, I said, I should have, she was in a wheelchair. I should have,
Starting point is 00:35:11 I should have pushed that bitch to the comedy club. We would have been rich. Cause baby, she had some stories for your ass. But I didn't know it was a comedy club.
Starting point is 00:35:22 She was hilarious. But in the same time, we'll tell you a story and then just bust out crying. I'm like, don't stop fucking crying. She was never happy. And then what age are you on your own? 14.
Starting point is 00:35:37 I had my first child. I moved out. And is she gone at that point? No, I live behind her. Okay. I got me an apartment with my welfare check. My baby daddy was a drug dealer. Started selling drugs.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Back then, the rent was $200 for an apartment or $200, $300. Paid my rent and motherfuckers didn't, motherfuckers had more holes in the walls than anything but it was mine.
Starting point is 00:35:56 And then what next for you? You get, you meet this man, this good man. I meet him and I'm, And then do you get out of the neighborhood? Do you guys move?
Starting point is 00:36:04 Oh yeah, we moved into, we moved together into an apartment and, Inlanta still at that time in atlanta and we just started to make a life for ourselves and i started to you know little odd jobs here and there and he uh he worked at simmons mattress and eventually he got i got on that general i worked at general motors and i was like excuse me i said this shit ain't for me i talk too fucking much work right old ass drunk people fucking up these cars we buying. Where they all working drunk and shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:30 So, well, they got a union, so you can't find them. I love, no wonder our cars are all fucked up. So I ended up, I ended up working at General Motors. He get at General Motors and he get on permanent. And we got a life. And then I started some other shit. And I got into comedy. How? What makes you finally say, I'm done with this bullshit.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I want to go try this? That night you went and saw that Bruce Bruce show. Did something get? No. Comedy was not on my list. It was Bill Clinton creating the welfare to work program. And I went through the whole program and the casework. I thought I was very funny.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And she just kept saying, you did it? Yeah, you did. I'm like, bitch, get away from me. And I did it. How old were you then? I was probably 20. Okay. Maybe 21.
Starting point is 00:37:19 And she's like, you should go try this. Uh-huh. And I got on stage and I tried. Where? Where's your first time? The pub. It was a place called The Pub in atlanta over there in um morrow georgia and i just went up and did it and i was like this is it i can do this shit so i just i went and bought a whole
Starting point is 00:37:35 bunch of richard pratt shit because my neighbor had a neighbor next door neighbor say you remind me of richard pratt all these crazy ass stories so he said, I'm telling you a storyteller. So I didn't know nothing about comedy. I bought all the Richard Pryor shit. I bought all the Bill Cosby shit because I wanted to see how they tell stories. And I was like, oh, I am similar to, I do tell a lot of crazy stories like Richard. And I just studied the shit out of Richard Pryor. I ain't know as good as he is but uh he taught me how to tell stories me too yeah that's where I listen to I mean
Starting point is 00:38:10 I still there'll be at least once a year I'll go back and listen to his audio just in the dark and I can feel like I'm in that room he's talking about this cat over here with the hat on his head and I see that guy you know what I mean like it's he paints a picture that i only aspire to be able to do if you're you know yeah and he's crazy good well was obviously i think that's my personal favorite too richard pryor and you know talking about his mom being a prostitute and his dad he grew up in a bronco right his grandma right that's what i'm saying you know it's not like you don't have similar parallels as well, but this is a man in the 70s telling these stories. Yeah, 60s and 70s.
Starting point is 00:38:51 I still watch Richard Pryor live in concert. You watch it. It's 1979 at Long Beach Convention Center. That was the key. And he's talking about everything that you could. It's timeless. You could lift it up and put it into our society today, and it's the cops
Starting point is 00:39:05 beating black people. I mean, everything right there that we've all watched, now everybody just has a camera. You know what I mean? It's been true. It's been true.
Starting point is 00:39:13 It's been true. Now everybody's got a camera to see it and you could lift that up and put it up. I think it's the greatest stand-up special ever. It probably is.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Yeah, that's the one. I saw Bill Cosby live one time it was the smoothest two hours I ever seen in my life two yeah it's a long time and I remember telling my friend I was like Bill Cosby
Starting point is 00:39:31 I'm gonna piss me the fuck off he's like what's wrong I said I paid all I paid this money to see this motherfucker he did 45 minutes 45 minutes my friend was like
Starting point is 00:39:38 bitch we've been here for two hours we've been here for two hours two fucking hours yeah it's a long time and he just tugged me on it's like long time. And he just took me on, it's like he held my hand and read a book to me.
Starting point is 00:39:49 I was in every scene with him, every story he told. It was really fucking good. That's when you know, I mean, that's when you know a comic really work at their technique. You know,
Starting point is 00:40:01 a lot of people take this shit for granted, but it's 90% working on your technique and i tell people all the time i said don't worry about the money the money gonna come if you if you work on your fucking technique and you work on your craft the money gonna come it will it will this takes a long time but it will yeah it takes i mean the real money takes a minute you can't you can't do this for money
Starting point is 00:40:26 no if you're getting into comedy thinking i'm gonna make a bunch of money no and that's your goal you're not gonna make shit you're gonna be out of it real quick yeah you sure fucking will you just really have to just um do it because you love it like i love stand up me too i love it i mean there've been days i'd be at home and i'm gonna get on fucking stage and you know and people like look up you at open mic you got them right on my open mic when i'm not busy and if i take some time off i will go hit the open mic to work out whatever i want to do but it's very addictive it's something that i really fucking love to do so can we talk about two things You said you grew up in a bootlegger home.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I want to talk about that. And I also want to talk about addiction for you. I ain't been addicted to shit. Comedy, though. You got an addiction to comedy. Oh, comedy. Because a lot of people think because I was a crack dealer, I was on dope.
Starting point is 00:41:16 I was not on fucking drugs. You never used a product. That's the number one rule. Well, I don't know what the rule was. I saw they was turning black people into zombies. When crack came out, it dried out all the fucking jerry curls. I wasn't using that shit. You're blaming crack on that.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I love that you're blaming crack on that. Jerry curls were a big deal back here in the 80s. Yeah, everybody had juicy hair. Crack came along. Deion Sanders was up to say it looked wet, but it was dry. That's what he always likes to say. Yeah, everybody had a fucking dry jerry curl with crack came out. I ain't fucking no got no crack.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I had black women looking like zombies and shit. That's what these pills are today. I'm watching people just walk down the street and they stop and fall asleep. And I'm like, how? How do you do those pills and that heroin and shit and just fucking sleep standing up like that and keep going? That's your motivation. I mean, who would take something that will eat their teeth out in two weeks? You like what the fuck happened to your teeth, Sarah?
Starting point is 00:42:14 I don't need no teeth. Yes, you do. You do. Yes, you do. You ain't gonna never be able to eat corn on the cob again. So comedy is your addiction then? Yes. You and you get it i think i get it
Starting point is 00:42:28 you get what all these crackheads have that jonesing for like i i'm the same way but this is great this is great but we'll we'll release this in a week or whatever so you don't have that that instant gratification that you do on stage i'm saying this and these people are laughing right now and hearing it all right now. You know, that's the thing for me. That's the drug of stand up for me is that instant reaction. You and I are reacting in here, but that's different than a room full of hundreds of people laughing at what you say and good or bad.
Starting point is 00:42:57 That reaction is immediate. People don't like this episode. We don't know about that for a week. They don't like this set I'm doing right now. They're fucking building me right there in the seat. You what i mean i love that's what i love about stand up you know i i that's what i love it about it too i also love that you can take i love how i can take two to three hundred people in a room and control them with my voice you know what i'm saying with my words and what i'm taking them on this ride. And I work really hard to paint this picture because I have this little thing I say at the top of my set.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Come on, white people, I'm about to take you on a Negro field trip. That's already a great song. And you can already see them in their mind putting on their seatbelts. And they're ready to go through the hood because they got Ms. Pat leading them. They're going to be safe. And I just take them through, you know, eras of my life. And I tell these stories of, you know, these situations that I've been in. And they right there with you laughing, ready to cry, ready to fight.
Starting point is 00:43:53 And that's what I love about stand up. And then when I'm done, I can say goodnight and say get the fuck out of my car and everybody go home. Yeah. Now tell me about growing up in a bootlegging household, you said. My granddaddy sold moonshine. So my granddaddy sold moonshine. And in this house, it was just, everything went down. I did it on my special from prostitution to gambling. It was nothing that we didn't see as kids. Nothing was off limits. Nothing. When I tell you, the thing that I remember the most about living in this bootleg house now is I used to ask myself, why the fuck do my granddaddy put a car change around his refrigerator? One of them things that you tow another car with, those thick ass chains, was all the way around the refrigerator.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Because he said, he would say, you niggas ain't going to get cold water. I said, you niggas can have cold water. He didn't even want you to have the water? The shit's free. Now that I got older, I realize he kept his moonshine in the refrigerator. Also, Am I Grinning kept his money and his pilster in the refrigerator. So if you try something, he popped that lock, that motherfucking chain hit the ground. He'll shoot the shit out of your head out you got a few seconds to run while he's getting that chain he kept a change around that goddamn refrigerator you thought that refrigerator was in jail
Starting point is 00:45:18 he locked that bitch up all the time can you imagine as a parent now your kids seeing what you saw growing up oh my kids a bunch of pussy they be done called a police on me oh mama got that refrigerator locked up you're damn right because back in those days kids didn't get fat you ain't want nobody fat you took your ass outside you ranch you play these motherfuckers sitting out video game you look at these motherfuckers got four chins on their ass you would think the generation because i'm 50 in a couple weeks i'm your generation we were the ones where the video games first came out you would think we'd be yeah you'd think we'd be the ones that were super addicted to but we balanced it we'd be going out all day.
Starting point is 00:46:05 No, sir. No, let me say something to you. Go ahead. Do you remember the fucking Atari? Yeah. It was one little dot, and that was football. It was. And you had to play them dots.
Starting point is 00:46:12 That shit was so fucking confusing. If you gave these kids that, they would beat these shit out of you. It was. Nobody. But I'm saying the excitement of this video game era, we're at the beginning of it. We didn't have much. But I'm saying you would think we'd be the ones that would get addicted
Starting point is 00:46:26 to this new thing that was coming in. No, we were always out riding bikes. That's what I'm saying. They don't do that anymore. Atari wasn't that interesting either. You had that little dot
Starting point is 00:46:35 that you had the football men behind. And that's all you had was football. You follow the fucking dot. You know, now they got real men topping shit,
Starting point is 00:46:43 chest popping. Yeah, they do. Have you ever seen Grand Theft Auto I was watching my kids rape a bitch I said you do not fuck hoes and don't pay them
Starting point is 00:46:52 so you didn't have all that back then you didn't have all that back then so you know you know this shit is like watching
Starting point is 00:47:01 I saw my son playing a video game before he could play he had to watch a whole movie on what was going the fuck on. My stepson does that. I'm like, what are you watching right now? I said, that's a good movie. I'm watching these people play it.
Starting point is 00:47:11 I said, what? You're watching people play it? No, no, not play. No. Before he get to play, in between each play or whatever, it shows you the movie of what going on, what about to happen. They meet up. They talk.
Starting point is 00:47:22 And I said, this is a good ass movie. He said, mom, this is a video game. I said, then turn that shit off you know so it's much better now so you can't you really can't blame them i was just telling somebody today i said i don't think these kids gonna know how to ride bicycles in 10 years they're gonna because they got these little hover bulbs and shit you ain't gotta move your body no more these motherfuckers gonna be so stiff by the time they get 45. They're going to be fucking walking. They're going to be on canes.
Starting point is 00:47:50 I feel like that now with the cars and the cameras and shit. I can't remember the last time I put my arm behind the seat and looked back to back up. I'm looking here on this camera now. Now, my daddy was 70 years old. And I remember one time I told my daddy, back the car. But he was like, I said, use the camera. He said, I can't motherfuckers see on that camera. Why y'all got a fucking TV here trying to tell me what to do at monday you throw his whole head back the back up yeah he would not get into that camera yeah he would not get into that bullshit
Starting point is 00:48:15 um tell me this tell me some of the biggest challenges you have as like a parent um growing up the way you grew up and the way you were parented? What did you say? I said, what are some of the biggest challenges you've had as a mom, as a parent in growing up the way you grew up and now you're trying to teach your kids? Not saying the things that my mama said that was hurtful.
Starting point is 00:48:37 I've said them before, but I have to catch myself like bitch and, you know, cussing them out. And I still cuss them out out but not as harsh as my mama did with us she make it personal very get your ugly ass out of here really yeah i was always called ugly ugly yeah so um i would uh i i started off in the beginning and my husband i remember my husband having to talk with me like hey your words is gonna last way longer than a ass whooping you
Starting point is 00:49:05 might want to watch what you say man you got a good man he's a pretty good man where's where'd he like how'd he come up because he grew up in his daddy worked for the city his mom was somebody cared enough about him to say these things to him well he had a good family he was 16 of them so yeah that's a big family too too. Yeah, a very big family. Very Christian-fied. And he grew up probably like Leavitt the Beaver. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:35 So he came from a very good background. And again, you listened to that. Yes, I do. It resonates with you. It did. Yeah. And it still do. I'm still with him.
Starting point is 00:49:46 I wouldn't trade him for the world. I say 30 years, right? You said 30, 31 years. I mean, that's a hell of a long time. Yeah. You must love him. I do some days. Some day I'm going to kick his fucking ass, but.
Starting point is 00:49:57 All right. So he's dropping some knowledge and some lessons on you. What are some where you've told him like, oh, yeah how about this and he's like okay i think i've taught him uh street knowledge i don't think he was i don't think he was smart in that street area like i am like when when the bullshit go down i speak the fuck up my husband ain't gonna complain he gonna be like yay you know but me now i'm ready to fight about everything and you know i know bullshit i'd be like come on you can't see this bullshit you know my husband's take you as your word i'm like no this motherfucker he's trying to rob us so it's that kind of shit yeah it's that me me being more
Starting point is 00:50:39 aware of the bullshit than he are yeah what um all right so you have four kids have you raised each one of them differently i imagine you've had two you had the first one at 14 then you said 60 15 and 16 the first two i call them my medicaid kids the second kid called my second my blue crab blue shit kids so yeah they the second two daddy raised the first two kids so if you watch the show you'll see a lot of that in it. That's a good point. Yeah, he did raise their brother. You have a boy and girl?
Starting point is 00:51:10 A boy and girl. I have a girl, boy, girl, boy. Okay. Yeah. And he raised all four of those kids with you? All four of them. Damn. Yes, he did. That's a lot.
Starting point is 00:51:18 And then helped with your sisters for a little while, too. And I got custody of my niece's kids right now. And how is he as a stepdad versus a dad? He's not a stepdad. He's just everybody's dad. Okay. All right. So he's good with it.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Yeah. Everybody's dad. And how is he as a father? Great. Yeah. Yeah. He's better than me as a mom. You think so for real or are you just joking?
Starting point is 00:51:40 He's got a lot more patience than I do. It sounds like he does. I'm about gonna knock this motherfucker head out he's like pat don't talk to the babies like that fuck them uh what's the hardest part about marriage for you uh hardest part about marriage is um it's it's a man it's work i mean 31 years tell me about that you gotta keep working to stay in love you know because you've gone from i mean i hear some people get divorced i'm like that that's why you're getting divorced over there you guys have
Starting point is 00:52:17 gone from the streets well he wasn't in the streets i was getting out of the streets yeah yeah from the struggle struggle to now. We've been through a lot. But now also entertainment and growing in comedy over the years and supporting that. He supported a lot of my bullshit. That's a one in I don't know what chance to someone makes themselves successful at stand-up comedy at your level. You're right. And he's supporting you doing that. He wanted me to quit in the beginning but i was like it's something here i want to keep going
Starting point is 00:52:49 what was it he wanted you to just have the stability of like that i had a job at general yeah that's a good job hey that's a lot of fucking money i was like hey i don't need that i don't go 401ks insurance i said you go do it and we'll still have it we don't need double one is enough and so i went he went and did it and i did stand up it took off guess what he retired last year did he really yeah how old's he now he's 50 he retired hell yeah he retired uh eight years early that's nice yeah so i was like hey you can retire now we're good let's go wow yeah he put all that time into and gets to retire years how is he doing with retirement?
Starting point is 00:53:26 He seems like a worker, though. At least he wants to do something. We're building another house. Okay. So he's got projects. He's got projects, but he get on my fucking nerves sometimes. He really do, because he gets bored, and he's going by like a $5,000 drone. I'm like, what the fuck are you going to do with that? Please.
Starting point is 00:53:43 A drone. Put it in the air and can't get it down. You don't need no $5,000 when I know that. He don't calm down a lot, but he enjoying retirement. He's good. He's good. Tell me some of the stuff you miss about the streets back in the day. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Nothing at all? No, because i lived a life so all that party and shit was out of me by the time i was 19 i had already did it all god all of it by 19 yeah by 1920 i was done still a baby yeah but i was ready to be settle down and just have a life how did you relate to other kids your age i thought they were stupid yeah because i was a mom did you have any friends at all at that age that that you connected with back then yeah we was hanging in this all my friends was older too like i'm 50 now my friends are 60 okay i see so they're all 10 years old all my friends was way older than me i was the only bitch that was too young to get in the club i was always with the fake id everybody else was the right age right so you know by the time i started to get married they started to get married so we was all settled
Starting point is 00:54:56 down together i see so so kids your age were just like now yeah you don't even know what's going on they were stupid to me i'm like you know why you don't even know what's going on out here. They were stupid to me. I'm like, you know, why you not working? Why you been an asshole? You know, but I was off with a husband and a family, so I couldn't understand why they was being kids. Because they was fucking kids. They was supposed to be having the time of their lives. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:18 But I already had the time of my life when I was fucking in elementary and middle school. Yeah, and they're all just getting started. They're all just getting started the right way. Yeah. Right. The right way. Oh,
Starting point is 00:55:30 I just had a question I really wanted to ask you now. I don't remember now. Damn it. I rarely forget my questions. I do want to know, you know, you're, what do want to know you know you're what how old were you when you got married like officially married 19 oh damn no i'm sorry i'm sorry 20 god so you knew you did everything fast you're married with children by 20 years old uh
Starting point is 00:56:01 we bought our first house you can't even drink five legally he could i could We bought our first house when we was 25. You can't even drink here legally. He could. I couldn't. Wow. Bought our first house when we was 25. Ended up moving out to Indiana when I was in my early 30s. Why there? Why'd you guys go to Indiana? Because General Motors closed in Atlanta. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:56:18 We spent 15 years out there. I say when I met you, I feel like you were out there. I probably was. Yeah, years ago I met you and you were in Indiana. So I was there like 15, 16 years, and now I'm back in Atlanta. What do you like better? I'm born and raised. That's my city.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Yeah. Yeah. Any of them too white for me. Is it? Yeah. I need to go places where it's kind of still divided. I wouldn't say it's racism. It's just how the city just cut up. You know, I lived in a place called Plainfield, Indiana.
Starting point is 00:56:51 And when I would tell black people, yeah, I know Plainfield, Indiana. Yeah, sure do. I got a it's crazy. A girl at the time I was dating in high school, her family moved to Plainfield, Indiana. Her dad got a job out there. And, you know, we're all still friends. It was her and her sister. And they just, I just went to Indianapolis and she and her husband
Starting point is 00:57:11 and her sister all came out, helped me sell merch. We all hung out. But Plainfield, I took a Greyhound from Baltimore to play Plainfield, Indiana. It was not easy.
Starting point is 00:57:21 So, I lived there for 15 years. Yeah. Fucking, and I tell black people i live there they're like why are the school system good motherfucker and it's a nice neighborhood and so you know black people lived on that side and then you it's almost like the biracial people lived in another part of the city and then you had us you know over here and I was like y'all too divided Atlanta Atlanta separates you by money
Starting point is 00:57:46 that's what I call it money I see okay you can have a rapper living next door to a motherfucking a fucking governor got it
Starting point is 00:57:54 mansion you know money separates you and I just said that was kind of I didn't like that you know we go anywhere
Starting point is 00:58:01 and live in Atlanta we don't give a fuck and you you gotta get recognized a lot in Atlanta now. I do. Yeah. I get recognized a lot. The whole fame thing I hate is the whole, now I got to put my wig on right and put on makeup. I can't have ashy feet no more.
Starting point is 00:58:17 I can't just run to Walmart no more. Yeah, I can't just throw some flip flops on and run to Walmart. I ran to Sam the other day and everybody like, let me get a picture. Let me get a picture. I said, never fucking get. I'm going to make sure I have my shit together. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:30 So that's the shit I hate about fame, because I just can't look any kind of way. Oh, my God. How about relatives? You got relatives that support and come out? No. Nothing? What about siblings? Are you support and come out? No. What about siblings? Are you close with your siblings?
Starting point is 00:58:48 No. Everybody just had to grow up differently and fend for themselves back then or what? Pretty much. I mean, I got a brother in jail, one in North Carolina. I don't really deal with. I kind of went out and made my own family. That's what I did. You made a big one though.
Starting point is 00:59:04 I do. I have a pretty big family. I have some really good friends in my life. Do you still have your sister's kids? No. My sister got them back when I had them about 11 years. They got on dope. And then now I got one of my sister's kids.
Starting point is 00:59:16 So I got my sister's grandkids. Got it. And I've had them for going on 10 years. Man. How many people you've been taking care of? A lot. Yeah yeah you've got four of your own kids i have four adopted kids and then i have uh that's who's in the house now but my kids are grown yeah but they weren't no they weren't with the other kids but they are now
Starting point is 00:59:38 so it's just me i have an older daughter that's 24 and then the four adopted kids. Who's the youngest? 24? My youngest is a 22-year-old boy. And he's home or he's gone too? He's home. How do you feel about everybody being grown and stuff? Do you miss all them being around? We do a lot together as a family, so I don't really miss. Yeah, you got your girls here now.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Yeah, my daughter's here. I love it. Yeah, I'm your girls here now. Yeah, my daughter's here. I love it. Yeah, I'm always traveling with somebody. Listen, you're such a fascinating person. Thank you. I mean, you really are. First of all, the fact that you're not dead after all that shit is amazing. I know you know that now.
Starting point is 01:00:20 I'm fucked up if God gave me counsel. You ain't got a shot. You ain't going to get a counsel. It really is amazing. The numbers, the stats on you getting out of there alive, number one, is a big thing. Two, getting out of there alive and making something of yourself is a big deal. You ever think about that? I try not to.
Starting point is 01:00:37 It's work. It is work. I try not to think about the things I accomplish. How do you do that when you're including these sort of storylines in your sitcom and stuff? Do you ever have a moment like, man, you really read that or hear someone else say a line
Starting point is 01:00:52 and you're like, man, I live that. Do you ever have that moment? No, because I just look at, I put everything in a category called work. So even though the sitcom is 90% of my life, I don't look at me as being the star of it i look i tell them we all stars it take all of us even the people behind the camera to make this shit work but i mean is there a moment like with another actor on the set or something where
Starting point is 01:01:17 they write you you say no this is how it went down and then you hear it come back to you well when we writing it and then when we act it out yes there's been time i fucking bust out crying yeah there've been times um you know we had to move some things around but yeah yeah i feel it all the time but as far as what i accomplished i just look at everything as being work i don't you know i don't put no chip on my shoulder i don't i try to stay as humble as possible. I'm just grateful. I'm thankful. And I just want people to know, you know, I tell them, and we heard this a thousand times for years. It's not about how you start.
Starting point is 01:01:53 It's about how you finish. So, you know, I try to uplift people. Hey, you're looking at somebody who was just thrown away by society. who was just thrown away by society. And when you get up and you make up your mind that you want to do something for yourself, then you can do it. That's it right there. That's the truth.
Starting point is 01:02:16 That's what this whole show is about, just being thrown away and thrown away and thrown away. And then you just got to get your ass up and go do it. And that's what happened. When you get up and go do it, you're fine. And you're going to be okay. You know, I tell everybody, the first step to accomplish anything in life is to learn how to love yourself. When you put yourself first and you can learn how to love yourself, then everything else will fall into place. But you cannot accomplish anything when you're putting other people before you and when you don't love yourself. When I started to love myself, I told everybody else, kiss my ass. I wasn't searching for friends anymore. I wasn't searching for love anymore. All of that stuff came into my life the right way. It wasn't being forced.
Starting point is 01:03:03 So the first key to anything, I would say, is to love yourself. It's been a great. So the first key to anything I would say is to love yourself. It's been a great episode. I could talk to you forever. I'm curious how you're going to answer this question. And then I'm going to let you get out of here. We're going to promote everything one more time. But now knowing what we've talked about, especially your age too with everything that happened, what advice would you give to your 16- old self uh if i could give advice to my 16 year old self i would look back and say i'm so glad we didn't give up fuck yeah don't give up i'm so glad we didn't give up i mean also know this too like and a lot of young people ask me this too but part of it is just staying in the fucking game you got to stay in the game you can't quit and take no break no you know um you know with all the with all the
Starting point is 01:03:53 shit that was thrown at me at the kitchen you'd have thought so many times i wanted to quit oh i should have quit but i didn't quit yeah and look where i'm at today that's right i'm glad you didn't good for you thanks for doing this thank'm at today. That's right. I'm glad you didn't. Good for you. Thanks for doing this. Thank you. Thank you for having me. You're the best. Promote everything one more time, please.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Please go to MissPatComedy.com for tour tickets. I'm getting ready to start a theater tour. Hell yeah. In the fall. Also, make sure you watch the third season of The Miss Pat Show on BET Plus and Amazon Prime. Now, if you're not familiar with The Miss Pat show, you can always start from season one because it's three whole season for you to fucking watch. So make sure you do that. I also have a podcast called The Pat Down with Miss Pat.
Starting point is 01:04:36 So make sure y'all check me out on my own podcast called The Pat Down. All right. Thank you for doing this. Thank you. As always, Ryan Sickler dot com, Ryan Sickler on all social media. We'll talk to you all next week. Bye.

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