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time on the honeydew very excited to have him ladies and gentlemen please welcome ryan long
welcome to the honeydew ryan we got a couple ryan's rocking out here i appreciate you being
here you kind of look like a little like you could be we could be in the. I appreciate you being here. You kind of look like a little,
like you could be,
we could be in the same family too.
You look like my brother a little.
Do I?
Yeah, there's a lot of,
you know, like Reynolds.
There's a lot of Ryans
and they all kind of got
the same look around here.
You got the eyes.
We have the eyes.
Yeah, you got the same eyes.
Well, welcome.
Thank you for doing the show.
I've never even met you before.
Yeah, first time. Yeah, I've asked around. A lot of people volunteered information about you for doing the show. I've never even met you before. Yeah, first time.
Yeah, I've asked around.
A lot of people volunteered information about you being a good dude.
So I was like, all right, let's have fun.
Dude, that's one thing I found about America.
When I came here, people were cool, man.
That's one thing that's better about America than where I'm from, Toronto,
because it's smaller.
Everyone here is very much more down to help out.
People see people that they think is cool, and they out and they want to you know people want people
see people that they think is cool and they go i want to like work with that guy can i go there
whereas where i'm from it's more like who's this guy trying to show up and steal stuff i don't feel
like it's always been like that but you're right lately especially like there's a lot of the
industry yeah i mean people are really reaching down and pulling each other up and pushing people
and they're like you know look if you've been in the game long enough and and you're out for something and you know damn
well it's not right for you why not be like you know who'd be great for that this person you don't
need to be in everything sometimes you're in everything at the detriment of your shit you
know what i mean like i like to just produce stuff like i'm not right for that yeah but i i got the
right mindset for that i just don't think I'd be good in that.
I know.
You know?
It's a huge tweak I feel like you can make in your own self when, like, when you see something good or someone doing something good and it kind of jazzes you up as opposed to makes you mad.
I feel like that little tweak.
Yeah, like, fuck yeah.
That magic is back.
Like, you see that person's getting it.
Yeah.
Oh, hell yeah.
Yeah.
You know?
All right.
Well, before i get to
know you a little better here please plug promote everything anything you'd like yeah man i do a
podcast called the boys cast with ryan long every friday and patreon.com slash the boys cast
youtube.com slash ryan long comedy i do a interview i do a video sketch every monday and then a street
interview every uh wednesday and i got two specials, comedy specials
out there and one coming out mid-January
too, so check it out.
Tell me about the street interviews.
What is that all about?
I was like a
when I was like 12
even, I was the biggest Tom Green
guy, so I feel like me and everyone
were all doing an impression
of Tom at the time
right but i did uh so i had this uh i used to do all these dvds i was in this band and we did all
these dvds messing with people even before when you can when you couldn't put them on the internet
straight up just cutting them to show your friends and stuff like that and i was doing all sorts of
that stuff i did a few tv shows doing that kind of stuff in canada messing around with people on
them when i moved here that was the first thing I was like, you know what?
I don't really know anyone.
I don't have a crew anymore.
I was like, that's the one thing I could do super easy.
So I just started kind of doing the stuff I've been doing in Canada on my YouTube channel here.
And a lot of stuff was going viral and stuff.
So go back to the beginning.
You're from Canada.
Where?
Toronto?
I'm from Ajax, right outside of Toronto, which is Sum 41.
Snow went to my high school.
The rapper?
Informer.
I got a good snow story, by the way.
Tell them, please.
My buddy and I used to still, we'll still, 12 inches, what is it, 12 inches of snow and
rise?
Isn't it?
It is, right?
He had some stuff that didn't age well,
either legal, tender, and fine.
I only know that one song.
Oh, you know this one?
He goes, legal, tender, and fine.
And the idea is like, she turned 18 yesterday.
Oh, my God.
I remember the one video, Informer, on MTV down here.
Informer was big.
And we used to be like, who the fuck is this guy?
Yeah, he went to Pickering Eye for a second.
So he was my friend, Danny Polshak, who the fuck is this guy yeah he went to Pickering High for a second but so he was
my friend
Danny Polshakoy
do all this stuff with
he's on my podcast
and stuff
and we did
he made a movie
that I kind of helped write on
and I was in it
a little bit
but it's his thing
and they wanted to put
Snow the Rapper in it
because he was on
this TV show
they did
blah blah blah
right
so
the premise was
they had this character
and they're like
Snow would be hilarious for it and the premise was they had this character and they're like snow would
be hilarious for it and the bit was one of the tiny things he did was snow talks to the cops
in one of the scenes and he goes listen i want to do this but i can't do any role where i would
talk to the cops because i would never inform even in a movie and he's like my boys like that's what
it is that's my brand that I don't talk to the cops.
And they're like, yeah, I think they'll get that it's like a character.
It's so weird.
Dude, he doesn't even inform.
Even acting like it.
Yeah, his friends are going to be like, hey, what's this?
We hear about you talking to the cops?
And he goes, it's a movie.
They go, we don't.
He didn't talk to the cops he stayed true all the
way man this is 25 years ago this song came out 12 inches of snow yeah he's gonna start getting
booed at his shows now like this is how he's living right but the fact that you have to say
snow the rapper when you have to throw the rapper on like chance is different this guy was called
the rapper at first because nobody knew
the fuck that guy was yeah who's what's snow what are you talking about the rapper the rap
the i guess the reggae guy really he just started doing a reggae accent and then popped off man so
all right ajax outside of toronto suburb i was a little skateboard forming band standard kind of
you know what were your parents like what did they do for a living so my
dad uh they've uh they were like they own some music stores and then uh so it's like well it's
my grandfather does and then my dad that's what we're in right now he was an demonic music center
this kind of music store yeah so it's a music family store no like instruments yeah yeah yeah
so him and uh like my my family's all very musical me and my you know
a lot of the cousins aren't involved things fall apart of the third generation usually you know
that's what it is yeah well it's because it is that generation it is it all every company like
that well but the first like if your dad starts something and he wants you to take it over you're
kind of like i could make this my thing if it was was already, someone else already did that, you can't really make it your thing.
So all you can do is if you,
if people want third generation to sort of get involved in the thing,
I feel like these days you really just have to make them a piece of shit
where you go,
you know what?
We'll just give you way too much money for this.
So no one really wanted to do that.
No one wants to do it.
So none of us are really that involved,
but that's that.
And then they,
my mom grew up in
the projects the hood yeah what's the projects and projects like ontario house yeah yeah uh
wild family my mom's like just irish fucking trash right dude
are you close with your mom yeah she's a mess a mess, dude. Dude, my mom, she's like, it comes out every now and then where something will happen.
And she's like very nice lady and tell something like, she gets like, what the fuck you want to come at me?
And I'm like, what is this?
And we go, all right, that's the hood.
But like, this is the kind of way she grew up.
Like her two brothers both died of like heroin and you know in and out
of pretty wild stuff right uh like went uh he was like a the the one would would kind of go to my
grandmother's house like steal everything like all the classic problems but you know and then
have you know her other two brothers they have their life together and they have jobs and the
other two were dead now and that's kind of what they have jobs, and the other two are dead now,
and that's kind of what it was.
Did you ever meet them, or are they gone before?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You did.
One had my one uncle that he died first.
He had a skullet, like straight up.
He kind of looked like me, like for real.
He kind of looked like me.
But bald up here and just all hair.
Yeah.
Like Ben Franklin.
Proper, too. He wasn't messing around where it's like a little bit. Like Ben Franklin. Proper, too.
He wasn't messing around
where it's like a little bit.
This was cultivated.
He'd have a hat on,
the hat come off,
and everyone would go,
oh, wow.
Woo.
He was a wild man.
Did you ever,
how old was he when you passed?
I think probably four years ago,
and then.
Oh, wow. That's not oh wow that's i got a joke
this is a joke i won't tell the joke version but it is real so my uncle he died right my grandmother
was like kind of getting dementia so the when he died it was very like do we tell her do you tell
her that her son's dead and my mom was kind of her idea was you know why she
can she's not really all there she's might die so let's not so we didn't tell her then she kind
of started getting better like she for real what's his name? Mike. You're like, where's Mike? Mike's not going to- For real.
And she- But my mom was set on it.
That is terrible.
Dude, my mom was set on it, too.
Because there was some disagreement on-
I'm sure.
Whether or not, you know?
All right, she's getting better.
We got to say something.
We ain't saying shit.
Your mom's like, anybody says shit, you shut the fuck up.
Oh, there's the hood again. She was very like, I wish a motherfucker would. getting better we gotta say something shit your mom's like anybody says shit you shut the fuck
oh there's the hood again she's very like you i wish a motherfucker would cross me
we can dig two holes motherfucker we can dig two holes yeah you want to join them
that's what she's like
so what happens so well it's the story ended positively because she's dead too so
it worked itself out my mom was right your mom's in there with a pillow like
yeah i think she was right but it went on for two or three years okay that's what i wanted
where there was family things and
she's still like she'd pop back in sometimes and be like he never visits me anymore and i would
this is a joke but i would be like we'd have to be like that piece of shit he's dead to us
now what about your other uncle uh he died probably 10 years ago and do you remember him as well yeah
it was it was kind of a wild thing where for real made my face twitch bro dude it was it was one of those things where i don't know if you have this
as much here but like you know you would people in the family would legitimately run into this
guy and he'd be begging for change outside of a uh like beer store or whatever and you'd see him
my brother i remember he ran into he was on a date with some chick he started dating he's going to get beer and it's like uncle right like you know they see each other and it's heaven what
oh and you're just like it's one of those things where you know it's anyone who's been in that
situation like obviously the instinct is like well you have money give him money but he's like
doesn't work like that you give him money and the money's gone and then they're that they're this
week later you know so it's a weird situation and work like that. You give him money and the money's gone. And then they're that, they're this week later,
you know?
So it's a weird situation.
And you like,
Oh,
you come stay with us for a bit.
And it's like,
you know,
then they're gone and your stuff's gone.
It's a situation.
That's gotta be trippy to see your own relative in the streets begging for money.
It's tough,
right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's,
it's mostly,
it's toughest for her.
And I think a lot of people in the family also have the,
you know, some anger, like, especially the, my other my other uncles you know i don't know how you are like with the relationship exactly
with your mom but imagine you had a brother that came and like she's like she don't have that much
money she's on like a pension or whatever and then your brother comes and like steals her last
little bit of money like they're you know they're they're some of them is a little like he ever
shows his face around here he better fucking stay on the streets you know so it's a lot of uh it's
a tense situation kind of all around and no one knows what to do about it there's no good answer
to those things when people are on addicted to crack you know so your mom had four brothers
yeah and and her or their sisters too yeah two four brothers no sisters and so she still
has two who are alive still yeah they all get along uh the two that yeah everyone that's alive
still gets along i mean i get it man your mom does come from it sounds like a hard upbringing i like
look i'm guilty of this myself like i have to i have to learn a little bit more patience, I think, because I forget not everybody grew up the way I grew up.
And my tolerance for bullshit is zero.
You know what I mean?
But this person over here, but I'm running it through my filter.
Yeah.
This person, a dumb thing that I think is dumb, it might be wrecking them.
And I'm over there like, what the fuck's the big deal?
You know what I mean?
Because I got to learn to be probably a little more sensitive but i can't help it it's just you know i think i feel like i'll
always have my shoulders up i think that's like one of those things that helps you for everything
where you go just remember not only do people see the same world as you but like even on top of that
be like remember that not everyone wants the same shit as you like how many times have you you know
you're like in entertainment you're doing well Like how many times have you, you know, you're like in entertainment,
you're doing well.
Like how many times in your life have you been working with someone
where you're like, yo, what?
Like what the,
and they don't want to take over the world
the same way you might.
Like, so you keep putting your shit on them.
There's like, why doesn't this guy
want to work 16 hours a day?
It's like, cause they don't care about this that much.
Like there are some people's goals might be,
all right, I just want to like have,
you know, make a decent living,
have my family, like watch TV, have a free time free time and like that might be actually the smarter of the two
like your way might actually say all the time i just want to go cut the fucking grass
yeah yeah like people ask me on the road like it's so cool what you do i'm like what are you
doing like i don't know what are you doing this weekend i don't know sunday i'm just gonna cut
the grass i'm like a riding mower like yeah'm like, yeah. I'd love to just fucking cut the grass.
Just chill.
Just cut the grass.
Have a beer.
Throw some music on.
Throw some dudes a white beater.
And just fucking cut the grass.
Smoke a cig.
You don't even smoke.
Like it's a ride.
I don't even.
I just start smoking.
Start smoking for the mow.
At my 40s.
Dip and chew and smoking?
Just to fucking get the full experience?
I would love to yeah grass is
always greener that's what they say but you know i read a quote recently it said the grass is always
greener where you water it not the other side where you fucking water it yeah i think so all
right so that's your mom tell me about your dad yeah pretty uh my dad's good dad he's like uh
like we're like we were big i was uh very much you know i'm sorry is his family
the music yeah they got the music stores everyone's almost everyone's musical like my grandma and my
grandfather started this little jazz band and they're in like the music hall of fame and stuff
like that yeah jack long trio and my grandmother played so like at my family gatherings they they
get the band they legitimately have a they have have a music set up where the gatherings are
and everyone plays music.
And my grandmother plays piano and my grandpa plays trumpet.
And they get the band back together and everyone goes up and sings.
And people are very talented in that family.
Like my cousin, Emily Long, she just did the top musician in Canada,
under 20 or something like that.
Damn, okay.
Yeah, like all this stuff.
There's a lot of very talented people in that family, yeah.
Do you play instruments?
So I was probably, which is the funny part,
I don't think I'm the most talented,
but I was probably the most successful musician in the family.
Because when I was a kid, i started this band called the johnstones
and then by the time i was like in first year college wait how old were you when you started
the band then wow high school 13 14 that early okay yeah then uh but then they all you know
you're in a when you're a band kid you're just gonna have a bunch of bands and then one kind
of sticks so we had this one band that stuck we were kind of doing well by grade 12 by like first
year college we were like on mtv and we had a bunch of hits on the countdown and we were selling tickets and
doing all this stuff so i feel like a lot of the things that i know now i like learned from a ton
of the mistakes that i made like the first round the first round's rough like when you see people
hitting the first round at 35 and you go you could have used a round at 20. Yeah. I could have used all kinds of rounds earlier on. There's so much stuff that is happening now that I've, I'm like,
nah, I did. I've been through this already. I know who to listen to. I know when to listen to myself.
I know when you're just, I know when you're being successful because you're good. And I know
what part of it's are successful because you're on a wave and how to distinguish the two like there's so many people that are part of a
wave and they're and you like i'm great and it's like no you're right place right time but sometimes
you are great and i think knowing when those are you know you know you can make the right decisions
right so were your parents what was what did your dad do for a living? He worked at the store, all store.
So how did your parents meet?
My dad was playing in a band.
And he was playing bass when he was young.
When he was like 24 or whatever.
He said, hey, baby from the projects.
My mom's cute.
She's got big tits, little package.
But they're divorced.
They were, I would say, probably, they're divorced they got they were uh i would say probably they're a terrible pair like when you look back and you go how did you guys stay together ever how old were you when they
split maybe like 12 13 yeah right around the time you formed the band yeah when i was like
i would think my brothers oh uh my one brother he has a little uh energy of it was kind of hard whereas me i'm like
i don't think i even noticed i remember my mom when she when she told me she goes listen like
me and your dad are getting like divorced and just want you to know we don't love you any less
and i remember being like yeah i mean why would you love me less like what like what first of all
like i could not care less i'm like can i go skateboard now like i don't care
there you go logistically you're just like is this gonna be like a big pain in the ass for me
but it wasn't they moved few you know few miles apart we didn't have to go to different schools
it really changed the only thing that happened was because i was kind of like a getting kicked
out of school kid and stuff like
that the only thing now is that it's easier to get away with everything but the nightmare the
nightmare my horror is that you got to do everything twice like now especially like i you know if i go
back to canada i gotta do two things if you start dating a girl they got divorced parents it's like
a lot of parents in the mix these days with all these divorces going to see all these fucking people yeah it's not vacation it's visiting yeah there
is a big difference it's too much there's too much of that right now so that's that's the pain
in the ass that came with it so your mom and dad they split who do you live with them mom
live with uh pretty even but mom but like 70. Yeah. Cause they live not that far away.
And did mom remarry or dad remarry?
Yeah.
Mom remarried Brian and my dad's been married Helen.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got a Ryan.
Do you know what's funny?
Brian.
No,
he's Brian.
Brian.
Brian.
Yeah.
He's,
he's like the ultimate stepdad.
Like you can picture a dude.
Yeah.
Picture a stepdad,
make zero changes.
That's him.
He works in hydro. Dude. He's the man like. Yeah, picture a stepdad, make zero changes. That's him. He works in hydro.
Dude, he's the man.
Like pure stepdad energy though.
And did you take to him right away?
Rocking a MoDry.
I wasn't around, right?
So it's like, like I was gone when that happens.
Like this is when I'm in, you know, college.
Oh, it was that late.
So it was not, almost like none of my business.
So me and him, he's like a friend.
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But my dad, he got remarried, which I think I told this story before, but he got married at the Toronto Maple Leafs game.
No.
In the middle of a game?
Trash, right? You can do that?
Yeah.
He actually not proposed.
No, no.
At the beginning.
And everyone wore hockey jerseys at the game.
Trash, right?
That's how much they like hockey.
He got his wife on board, right?
So, isn't that fun?
But listen, so they get married at the hockey game.
In the middle of a game.
Yeah.
Not like an empty arena you run out and go.
No, there's an area.
Like a game is happening.
The game, it's right before the game, you have an area.
And it's kind of like a box I guess
so that's the thing
I was like
making fun of him a lot
we're all like
this is such trash
you're gonna be
your next wedding
is gonna be a NASCAR
and his attitude
was like
trash
you know how much
this box costs
like what are you crazy
this is a
he was like
trash
what are you
out of your mind
white trash
can't afford
white trash can't afford to, like.
White trash can't afford to look like white trash.
That's his fucking, yeah, yeah.
His thing was like, what are you, out of your fucking mind?
It's about the dollar sign for him.
He was impressed that he was called this off.
He was like.
Shut the fuck up. Where's the mascot?
Where's the goddamn mascot?
Put your hand up if you think this is too poor for you,
and you can leave.
Watch the free fucking hockey game.
What other weddings do you get to watch a Leafs game?
Leafs sell out every game.
This is a big, important team.
So he loves the hockey, right?
But I actually officiated my mom's...
No.
Not officiated.
I hosted it.
To Brian? To Brian. To MC that that you hosted it and this is when i first
started doing comedy too i was going pretty wild what was that like i'll tell you a funny one so
my brother's gay and uh he comes up and he goes you know uh my stepsister's so happy to have in
her family because normally we're just surrounded by guys and then i went up and i'm like first time
he's complaining about being surrounded by guys.
Like I'm saying shit like this.
And people in the family are like,
probably this was a bad idea having Ryan do this.
Yeah.
So I'm,
I'm,
I'm officiating the wedding.
Now,
how many people are there?
I don't know.
200.
That's a lot.
I'll tell you,
go back to the uncle.
This is the kind
of the guy the uncle is.
He was there
and he wore a do-rag.
You know,
the white guy do-rag?
Yeah.
He's got the white guy
do-rag.
He's like the meme
and then,
you know,
smokes in the pocket,
the whole thing.
And then we had to
drive him back
to where he was
staying that night.
But was he like
that heroin skinny though?
Oh,
he's, yeah, pure heroin skinny. And heroin skinny though? Oh, he's, yeah.
Pure heroin skinny.
And then when we're leaving,
he was,
he goes to the open bar
and he's trying to take five,
like, cans to go.
Oh, I'm taking them home.
He's trying,
he's trying to take,
he's trying to take a bunch of lights to go, right?
And then,
and my mom's like,
all right, this is gonna,
we're wrapping up buddy
he's not messing around right
you get that free alcohol kicking
but yeah so I officiated that wedding
then there was the hockey game wedding
and then but again these people weren't really
in my life cause I was pretty independent
it was like I was doing my own thing since I was
young right and then I went to college you you know, went and moved to Toronto.
They, you know, met new people.
Liked both of them.
So you're basically coming home to meet their new partners.
I would come home to meet new partners.
Partners are cool.
No problems.
You're not being disciplined and growing up under the same roof with these people.
That's exactly what it was.
Like, I'm sure there'd be millions of problems because I was a troublemaking kid, right?
But they didn't have to deal with any of that.
I was living my life in Toronto.
Why?
Why are you getting thrown out of school?
What kind of stuff were you doing to get thrown out?
I was just that kid.
Just a smart-ass, loud mouth?
Or were you pulling off shit?
I was a bit of a prankster.
To be honest.
What's your best prank?
And the one that actually got you kicked out?
I'll tell you my best prank so that we this is when i was um probably grade nine so we had uh we pulled this one on a couple people but there's a french teacher so in canada you got to take
french kind of like how you take uh spanish here we have to have we don't yeah we have to yeah
right it doesn't help i took it for 12 years. I can't speak. Nah, dude. It doesn't help at all.
Dude, I can barely speak.
I can say, je ne parle pas français bien.
That's it.
I can't speak.
Yeah, you take it every year.
It doesn't help.
So we used to do, there was like, we pulled this multiple times, but the one was Miss
Valdman that we did it to multiple times.
They would put movies in and one of the big French ones ones it goes tell the francais you ever hear that okay
so they would put those movies in and we would replace her vhs's with porn nah yeah so in high
school you got away with that grade nine yeah well i didn't get away with it okay well you got away
with doing it yeah that was probably one of our best pranks is replacing all the VHS with porn.
And what happens when it hits?
Does she just shit herself?
And it goes, you know, old school porn.
And then we go, oh, what the, Ms. Baldwin, you pervert.
What the, who's, why are you showing this to us?
Why are you showing this to us why are you showing this to us
that's terrible
poor lady
and then she went to the insane asylum
you guys drove that poor lady crazy
yeah we drove that poor lady crazy
which I do feel somewhat bad about now but
she was a bad woman too
she smoked
was she running over there to try to stop the tape and shit just panicking or was she
just yelling who did this panicking but no one ratted on us for that so they weren't able to
pin it on us that one we got away with but the bet even now i forgot about this part but so she's
gone for i don't know if it was directly related to that at some point she leaves for three days
which we later find out she's in the insane asylum.
She goes away for
three days, and the teacher comes,
the supply teacher comes back,
and I decide that I'm going to pretend
that I'm a retarded kid.
That's my thing. I go, I'm going to, I have this whole,
I don't know, it was fun to do this bit
now. I wore my
pants all weird. I talked funny.
Then I was doing this whole
thing like oh you know and then uh the teacher's back the next day then she's back the next day
and then day four she's like yeah yeah i'm gonna be here for the rest of the semester
and i'm like, so I got to slowly. Next day, your pants are on, right?
Yeah.
I'm like, why I can't do this act for two months?
That's what you get.
I got to slowly transition out of my character.
I'm like, I don't know what it is about your teaching, but I'm back to normal.
I don't know what you said, but man.
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm like, slowly transitioned back into a normal person
yeah she never came back but no you know what i'm so we're it's kind of funny because you know
you were talking you do comedy and we're talking it's funny like a lot of the stuff you used to
get in trouble for you do for a living but i legitimately that's what that's what we were doing the all making videos causing
trouble we used to go to you know break into places and film it and do all this shit and
all this stuff that was everyone yelling at you like you're you know your life's gonna be a mess
if you don't stop that's the stuff that you know eventually and now i make a good living doing yeah
good for you kind of funny yeah eventually i led to the TV shows, all that stuff.
And it was some of that pranks.
I think back, and I'm like, we were doing some pretty funny ones when we were a kid.
Tell me, do your mom and dad get along?
They don't.
They're fine now.
Yeah.
But for a while, my mom, it would be very passive aggressive.
You go to your dad's, like know i guess uh i guess he'll
probably be doing the way that he is like it's all that kind of energy but have they ever been
to a show at the same time to see you do stand up yeah they just play it cool but it's very oh
how's it going i don't think they have much they don't talk about much especially now that the kids
aren't kids you know yeah it's my brother's a lot younger but now that there's nothing to talk about
i think it's just, you know.
You know what it is.
I get some point, if the kids are gone, that's someone that you dated 20 years ago.
Yeah.
Like, there's just nothing, right?
It's, you know, you're not going to be friends.
You know, it would be insane.
The couples that they're friends with their ex and the ex's new husband.
They vacation together and shit.
It is.
A little strange.
I'm not down.
It's a weird life.
Go do your own thing, man. Yeah. Don't even even send pictures i don't give a i don't care there's
more i think there's more people that you could be friends with in the world it just had to be them
yeah um so there was a story you said that uh i don't want to give away where you end up living
but yeah so i remember when i went to uh so when I went to college, this is kind of,
like the thing is I always did kind of good in school.
So that was, it was one of those things
where they're like, hey, you know,
you're going to, you're going to,
life's going to be bad if you don't get it together.
Listen, for a special needs kid.
Yeah.
You are killing these grades, right?
Yeah.
So you'd kind of be like, I mean, I won't though.
I'll be, you know, you're a kid, you're cocky.
They're like, you're going to, you know, your life's going to be messed. And you're like, mean i won't though i'll be you know you're a kid you're cocky they're like you're gonna you know your life's gonna be messy you're like it won't though
i'll be fine it wasn't i'd say it wasn't till 25 when i first was like oh yeah i can go bad
but i remember so when i went to college in the first like two weeks i got kicked out of residence
and then for what so we basically all this stuff so and i and we, one of the big things was we,
I was throwing parties on the roof.
Then we got in like a big fight and went through the window.
Then we broke in the library one night
and then we were like partying.
We threw a party there and we like brought chicks back
to like the library.
And then just a lot of that stuff,
like a lot of just,
then like all of the little notifications you get, like the red when you only have three, all that stuff.
But the big things was breaking all the stuff.
The party on the roof was a big one.
And then I got kicked out of my res.
Then I got kicked out of all the other ones.
Then I got kicked out of mine.
And I remember I used to – so I lived in my car for a bit.
But it was funny.
Why?
Why not with your parents? Did you not want to be a burden? They for a bit so i go but it was funny why why not
with your parents did you not want to be a burden they're two hours away oh it's two hours away two
hours away so and also my mom at this point when she she uh when she calls me she was like you know
i'm so glad that you're university now and you like got your act together and things and i'm like
i just got like kicked out like a day ago so i'm like you know i'm just not gonna tell them so that i never told them and which is even funny because both my brothers also
got kicked out and like at family things they'll all kind of be like yeah at least i didn't get
kicked out of res and they're just like watch it like well you're pushing it ryan because they
still don't know yeah but um so I'm eventually I would have like,
you know,
a check or two that I can stay at their place,
but it was fun for like a day.
It was kind of like,
Oh,
I'm living in my car.
This wild,
whatever.
Right.
And then this girl,
she was kind of like,
okay,
you can stay here for a couple of days,
but I had to sneak in because you basically have to,
it's a whole procedure.
You gotta have like a watch out,
man.
And you get,
and so I'm going to her thing.
And then the,
someone saw me.
So the res come with the police and they knock on the door and they were like hey you're like harboring
ryan long essentially and i go in the closet and the girl she's there and they start being like
she's like he's not here and they go listen like you're gonna get kicked out too if you don't towel
on him blah blah and then she just like looks at me and starts crying. And I just, I just walk out.
I come at you with like the, what took you so long? You know?
So, so these, uh, these guys,
they take me to the police station. Then they're like, all right,
you're on the charges just for all the shit you've been doing. Okay.
So they're like, you're only allowed. And I've, I've been we kind of, I did a few like nights there in jail, like already.
So, and it was like, they're like, now you're banned from the res, except for times you
have classes.
That's the whole thing.
And it's like a big trespass.
So you're only allowed on the property to attend your class.
That's where it got to.
Yeah.
And this is, we're talking a month into school too.
This is pretty early on.
It's interesting that they don't just say fuck off and throw you all the way out.
I guess the res and the school are different things. right so and yeah at this point i'm not going any
classes i'm not doing anything but uh school is school school first year pretty easy you know
but the oh no i did get kicked out so i was in economics and i did i was showing up to this one
class drunk but like not because i was a mess like because i thought it was funny and then
eventually they they're like okay you can do the exams but you can't come to this class anymore so it's kind of
all this stuff but at the same time like at the time I thought like I'm yo I'm a legend like I
didn't think like you don't think it's but then so eventually then it was started being winter
so I was sleeping in my car I had this like spot and then eventually it was like too cold so I'm
but I didn't have money and I didn't want to tell my parents.
I didn't have a job.
I just,
so I'm like,
I was just trying to find girls.
I could sleep at their place and stuff like that.
But never,
you know,
this stuff kept happening.
And then I was sleeping in the car,
found this one spot.
And then the res security came out to that area.
And they're like,
Hey,
you can't sleep here either.
And then my car wouldn't start.
So I'm on the,
I'm like in the res,
like parking lot,
the back one,
like under a blanket,
3am security comes with the police.
They're like,
well,
you can't be here.
And I,
they're like,
we'll try to find like a boost.
So I'm standing there like in the fucking,
it's like,
I,
at this point it's like December and I'm there with like the police trying to
boost my car.
So like,
and then,
and then I finally like 4am go find like a ditch in a parking lot and like sleep there and i was like all right i think this is where we gotta we gotta figure this
thing out you're just like yeah now you're laying in a ditch wondering how it could go right yeah
and no one's watching no no one thinks this is sick yeah no one thinks this is fun like i guess i could tell people like that
you know i'm and everyone's just like dude like yeah it's i think it started to be way more like
dude get your shit together so then i just i went to hamilton which is kind of like an hour away
and stayed with my like buddies res for the rest of the year and then scrape some money together
to get like a little place in a room in a house with like nine other people off campus.
But that was the living in the car.
There was like a week and a half where I was legitimately like winter.
Just you drive around.
Canada winter.
Canada winter.
Driving around everything I own dirty in a back of a car.
What kind of car?
Caprice classic.
Yeah.
No windshield wipers.
So I would,
I would drive with,
I take a hockey stick and I had a towel on it.
So
I would drive with the
windshield wipers. No, I had no cash at this point. with the oh that's ridiculous that is so fucking dangerous
windshield
I had no cash
at this point
eventually I've
cashed in my meal
plan
so you know
meal plan
I cashed in my meal
plan and that got me
like two grand
that's for the whole
thing so that was
I was like we're rich
now
but yeah so I would
drive around in the
Caprice Classic
all my gear there
and then eventually
it was like alright
this is
we've reached the
tipping point
but then eventually I kinda then all right this is we've we've reached the tipping point but then eventually i kind of then the band started kind of popping off and then i was in
school while i was like touring with the band and stuff whenever i finished the degree but that was
i think that was the most like all right we gotta pull we gotta pull this together a little bit
what um what what stopped the band i think that i mean you looking back now i think you can look at any
moment in time and be kind of like you know uh at the time you think it's one thing but kind of
looking back you know what actually happened i mean looking back if you look at any scene and
if i look at every band that was part of that like scene that we're all popular it's over now for
everyone i kind of think of like it was kind of like a punk band and we were you was part of that like scene that we're all popular, it's over now for everyone. I kind of think of like,
it was kind of like a punk band and we were,
you know,
part of a movement.
We were one of those guys.
I think even whenever you look at music and even comedy,
it's like,
it's those guys in that scene.
Like there's the,
this pocket,
there's all these rappers that come from this area or Atlanta or all
these bands that came from Seattle.
Right.
So we were kind of part of this movement,
I guess that is over like kind
of the same thing with even take a band like Limp Bizkit or something right like they're still big
you know people still know who they are no one's listening to the new song it's over you know I
mean the moment's over unless you become kind of like a industry popular band but our movement was
over and I think at the time I maybe saw it quicker than other people.
And I was making these DVDs with the bands and I was probably spending more
time on that.
Like I would,
everywhere we went,
I was just filming all this trouble and we were releasing all these DVDs with
the band and it was kind of getting as much popularity as the songs at some
point.
So then I started doing this like weird live show that I was streaming with
all the sketches and all that stuff. And then that led to this weird little cable access show that I was streaming with all the sketches and all that
stuff. And then that led to this weird little cable access show that we were doing that we
had a few sponsors and I was making a bit of cash on and I was doing this little cable access show
out of our house with a bunch of dudes. And that was just my whole, that's all I cared about.
So at the same time, the music industry was dying our scene was over music's
a young man's game i was 25 at this point you know it's that touring in a van and traveling
and partying that's a young man's game and i think that even being on the pulse is a young
man's game so right now i a little bit always try to look at people older than me for skill
and the people younger than me for energy, you know? That's well said.
Yeah, even the troublemaking stuff.
Like I watch these young guys and I'm like, I couldn't do that anymore because I don't have the recklessness.
I don't have the fearlessness.
But I also don't have to only get kicked out of places because I have more tricks in my toolkit, you know?
Right.
So I think that at the same time that i was you know becoming obsessed with
making videos that's all i cared about the music thing was kind of ending and i really wanted to
tv shows and so i kind of was transitioning into that and you did mention you had a tv show yeah
so this cable tv show led to this show called ryan long is challenged which was kind of like
alley g type of thing yeah which goes right back to your fucking high school class bring it back yeah i was always i always always what i called smart stupid where it's like like
i was good at math but you're stupid like you're loopy don't know places you know directions don't
know directions don't know places i'm like the places. I'm like the, you know, very much
you go, you, you leave your house. Cause you've, uh, and then you realize you forgot your keys,
go up, go back down, forgot them again, go back up. I don't, you're like a third time, huh?
Like that's like pieces are missing sort of. Right. Which is one thing I feel like I've,
whatever people that have that, the real, the only solution is doing one thing at a time.
That's the only way to kind of make yourself not loopy.
That's my favorite days.
You know, when we were talking about days,
like, you know, sometimes you just want to cut the grass.
The most days I look forward to is when I go,
I'm doing one thing today.
If it's editing, if it's writing,
if it's whatever it is.
It's all I'm doing.
I'm doing one thing properly.
And that's what I think I'm best too but I actually
sold this show by doing some wild stuff I was reading a lot of like books like you know like
the original kind of take over the world books like 48 laws of power and you know that that kind
of what eventually became the Tim Ferriss world you know that kind of stuff I was felt like I was
in the early days of that where it's like a different way of looking at life where you're like,
dude, no, you can make it happen. So I would find out the, the heads of all these TV stations and
I'd make all these demos and then I would find out where they're going to be, find someone that
was there, get into the parties, try to like, you know, make friends with the people. And I,
I managed to do it to the point where I got to the head of the party act. Like I bumped into them all and was able to get them on interest in this
show. I used every dollar I had and then went into debt about 20 grand making this show. So I've made
six episodes of this show at first and then sold it to these guys and was able to kind of make all
my money back and, you know, and more and sold this show when I'm something like 26,
and we made this wild show.
And this was kind of like, in my mind, I was like,
all right, this is what we're doing.
We kind of got it figured out now.
Is this also your introduction into comedy as well,
shifting out of the music?
Yeah.
Okay.
This is around this time was when I was like,
all right, I think I got to just do stand-up,
which is maybe 11, 12 years ago.
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We were doing wild pranks,
but the one that we did, the first episode aired,
they put all the press out like it
was you know episode one within 24 hours two of the people that we pranked had called the network
with their lawyers being like already lawyered up and this is this ain't like a huge net this is
the equivalent of like fuse or something here maybe you know what i mean like a comedy network
but not like so and
and they're all freaking out we're getting all these phone calls and it was it was dark and i'll
tell you what the prank was which there's kind of so basically uh it was the every episode i had to
do something wild and it was kind of like sell a fashion product right so i made these pants that
have a dick built in to make your dick look bigger I feel like I've seen this have I
seen this maybe this whole line clips went
viral yeah but they're called python
pants was the idea
and it just looked like you have a hog
down your leg you got a piece of me
but for real I wonder why no
one's ever sold those I think
there's probably been some version of this
after I was the original.
That's ridiculous.
How long?
Like down to your knees?
Like, is it ridiculous?
There was some big ones.
There was some big ones.
Oh, yeah.
Different sizes.
You can model.
Depends on how bad you want to flex, you know?
Python pants.
And we did a...
Oh, shit.
Then there was a whole episode based on this bit.
Did anybody buy them?
Did you ever get somebody like...
Well, part of the bit was we would sell them at a store and then we'd make people come
in and then we'd kind of bully them into buying them.
And that was part of, that was part of the bit.
And we got a few guys to buy them, right?
But the, the main thing was there's this guy who ran this big company and it was like a
big fashion line.
And I went in with my crew and I was pretty good at like weaseling into places.
So I went to the front desk and I was like, Hey, we're here to see the guy who runs the place.
And I go, he's a friend of my family and he knows I'm coming or whatever. And they're like, what?
I don't think we have an interview. I go, no, he knows we were supposed to do a filming thing with
them, blah, blah. And then she, she starts walking. And then me and the crew just follow her. Cause
now we can follow her into his office. And then he's very confused. And then we're just then we're just like hey um you know we have the new line for next year and he's kind
of like who are you and then we like pull out this like briefcase and it was like python pants and it
was like you know you guys can't afford not to sell whatever i'm doing the whole sales pitch
he flips out the security comms he was pissed and so i this happens and i'm like
pretty when all this stuff's going down
it was probably like
because in my mind
I was like
the band was
you know over
I'm making Python night pants
god damn it
yeah
get your dick in some night pants
just a piece
in my mind
you broke into this guy's office
and tried to sell him
dick pants.
Yeah, we're like, listen, if you're packing, you're packing.
We're trying to...
I mean, you can't do anything about it.
And his secretary's there.
He goes, he says you have an appointment with me.
I go, the Python's in.
You know his family's in.
Yeah, I'm saying all this shit.
But the funny part...
So you're not wearing them in, though.
You're doing your presentation.
I wasn't wearing them here.
I've worn them in other parts, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah just a piece so he's when this when they call me i was you know
because this is like the band was kind of over in my mind and i'm like yeah i've got my shot to do
my tv show which now it's like now i realize this tv show was nothing there was no chance for any
of these shows tv was over like it was so in the this TV show was nothing. There was no chance for any of these shows. TV was over.
Like it was so in the past, like I was,
if anything I was clinging onto the idea that I could be a, you know,
that TV thing was over.
Like they'll never have another TV show like that again,
especially in Canada that matters. But, um, so I just went to like,
I just went, um, my, my buddy's cabin and I asked if I could just stay there.
I went there by myself and I was, you know,
like feeling sorry for myself,
like skipping rocks and stuff.
I was telling,
I told my dad and then he goes,
he was,
I went to high school with that guy.
The guy that I broke into the office.
Nah.
Swear to God.
So the guy that I told,
the guy that wouldn't buy your dick pants.
And I said,
knew my family.
No way.
Yeah.
He didn't know him then.
Yeah.
My dad goes,
I went to high school with that guy and i go
do you think you could get his number for me because i'm like what if i could talk him into
this so i eventually my dad goes i'll try he gives me his number he gets from he goes my
my uncle was buddies with him he gets the number so i call him and i'm like hey can i speak to him
i tell him it's the guy that came in with the pants. And then I was like, hey, you know, I came in with the pants and I was just open.
He goes, you fucking piece of shit.
You think that you can call me after that?
Like, we are going to fucking take this episode down.
I want to go click.
Listen, real quick.
How do you feel about Python shorts?
Yeah.
You didn't even get out, you know, my dad or my dad knows you.
In my mind, I was like, I'll smooth this over.
I'm a fast talking salesman.
I was selling Python pants.
I can sell this guy.
In my mind, I'm going to be like, you know, we'll recut the parts.
I'm going to sell him on the, like, you actually look funny.
It's good publicity.
I'm going to be this guy, right?
He's peaking.
Like, if you could see him in person, his hair was flying off his head.
Steam was coming out of the ears, you know?
He's like, you come down here right now.
Say this to my, he's flipping.
So I just go click.
I go, all right, well, that's not happening.
Eventually, they re-release the episodes with,
you know,
all this stuff cut out four months later after the hype's over and whatever,
kind of dwindled.
All right.
So it did make it out then.
Okay.
It did make it out.
But I mean,
to be fair,
no one would have cared at the time,
but you look back,
I think 25 to me,
you know,
you were saying 16s,
things might be before we started,
but 16 is like a tough age.
For me, I felt like for a lot of guys,
I think that 25 is like the toughest age,
especially if you're doing anything alternative.
Tell me why.
Well, 25, for men, everyone is,
a lot of people are getting their lives together.
They've been out of school for four years.
People have a good job,
but anyone that's doing
something alternative
takes a long time, right?
So I think 25 to 30 for men
can feel,
for everyone,
but I think girls have it
at a different time.
But for dudes,
it's like,
that's the first where it's like,
everyone's rushing
to check off all the things.
People are like,
oh, you know,
I don't have a kid.
And then you look at a guy
that's like 29,
and you're like,
dude, this guy lives in a house
and he's got his shit together he's got
making 100k a year and you're like some bum because you try to do something but then at 30
i don't even think anyone cares anymore whether it worked out or didn't 30 is the first year where
it's like i feel like your buddies get together no one's like hey how's your job no one cares
anymore it's just like i mean even being a comedian doing this kind of stuff no one starts
being like you don't go to family things and they go how's your job they just go how are you yeah No one cares anymore. It's just like, I mean, even being a comedian, doing this kind of stuff, no one starts being
like, you don't go to family things and they go, how's your job?
They just go, how are you?
Like, it's just, I feel 30.
It's just whatever you're doing, you're doing.
No one really, you kind of realize no one cares about you anymore.
And they don't, which is liberating.
Like people stopped being invested in you, whether that be your friends, whether that
be your family, like, which can seem bad to some people but
to me it's like liberating it's like no one's watching anymore so you're just whatever you're
doing you're just doing it and I think that that to me it's kind of like you know the idea of you
can look up and think about how small you are and it's like that could be liberating or scary
I think it's liberating you know so I think that the idea that no one's paying attention to you anymore,
to me, gives you the freedom to actually kind of do,
take chances and be who, you know, do what you want to do.
So I think that's why the 30 is like a tough age.
Whereas 16, most people when they're young,
especially like a certain type of guy,
it's like not that much has gone wrong yet.
Bro, you don't know who you're sitting across from. even still none of that's gonna affect you forever like 16 a lot can go wrong but it's like
it can affect you mentally no but you can recover from it you could career-wise like what's gonna
i'll give you this though yeah give me an example of what you mean i'll give you an example of
you're right about numbers i didn't know i mean except for my own brothers i didn't know anybody
that went through what we learned through so my dad died my mom had left our family my dad died
at 16 and we were on our own from 16 yeah that's it so that changed everything for us you can have
terrible things that can affect you mentally but i only mean so i'm i think i'm thinking
talking about a different context i'm talking about in the context of like, are my peers doing better than me?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
They all were.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's like, that's possible.
I'm like, you drive a company car?
Wait, you don't pay for insurance?
Wait, hang on.
They give you gas too?
And I'm like, what the fuck am I?
Yeah, I'm a bum.
How much is that a year?
I'm an idiot.
Yeah, right.
You're like, what am I doing?
I could have done.
You have a 401k and they put money in it? You're like a real human. You're like, what am I doing? I could have done. You have a 401k and they put money in it?
You're like a real human.
You're paid when you're on vacation?
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
And then, but if you're ever met a 20 year old, it's like, ah, I've made, it's too late.
And you're like, it's like, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
But there is some degree.
You keep reinventing yourself.
Yeah. There's some degree when someone's like, it's 30 and they're like, it's too late.
You're like, yeah, probably.
Like, so just do what you're doing now.
Yeah, stick with it.
Not too late, but like, yeah, whatever you're doing now, it's like, there is a bit of like, you know, you're just, you're in the pocket now.
So I think that that's, the pressure is relieved.
I think there's so much pressure when you're just looking around, comparing yourself to everyone constantly. Not that that ever ends, but I think it's tougher in your mid-20s. I think
that's the toughest era for comparing yourself to people. I mean, look, I think you can reinvent
yourself at any point and you have to, but I think I agree with what you're saying about people in
their 30s. I think if they haven't gone for it or they're not really in the middle of it or they
just aren't dying for it, then I think a lot of people do settle.
And they're going to take that job that they've had for 10 years and stay.
And maybe that's a good life.
It is.
It could very well be.
But if you're regretting it and always wondering it, like I just know me.
I don't want to be a person that some of my last thoughts are what if.
No, I know.
Yeah, fuck that.
But probably the type of person that is like that is the type of person that took some shots in their 20s.
So the fact that you're wired that way,
you'll kind of have done the thing where it's like,
I tried a bunch of stuff in the 20s and built skills.
And then in your 30s and 40s, you can kind of,
all right, I'm a formed human.
I have some skills that I built.
Let's try to use them now.
See what we can do with this.
Whereas I think the type of person, there's a lot of people that think they want that.
They'll be like, and that's probably at 30, they realize they don't.
How many people are kind of like, I want to be an artist.
I want to do this.
I want to start a company.
And then you're like, I know you.
You don't.
You don't want to do those things. You don't want to run a company and then you're like i know you you don't you don't want to do those things you don't want to run a company you would hate running a company
i know you and then i think at some point they're like yeah i just think i like thinking that i'd
want to run a company you know what i mean so what people get in touch with who they kind of are
at what what did you first think you wanted to be did you always know you wanted to stay in music
first i think that to me that was just like the cool
cool move at the time did you ever think you wanted to be anything other than a musician or
a comedian i never thought i wanted to be a comedian i did think i wanted to make a tv show
i didn't even know what like i didn't know stand up in front of the camera though yeah like i know
a lot of friends that kind of grew up that are in comedy that like loved comedy i didn't watch
like i like jackass i thought that adam sandler and david spade were funny but i didn't watch you know
the only stand-up i'd ever watched was jerry seinfeld telling you for the last time probably
and i was like all right but no to me it was like i think that what i realize now if i look back at
what i wanted it's that i wanted to do, I wanted to like run my own thing,
but do it differently.
Like do something different.
Like I think I wanted to live like kind of a cowboy life.
So at the end of the day,
like a lot of these lives,
you end up working 80 hours a week
and you're working just as hard,
but there's like some type of like a pirate component to it
that I think whenever I feel like the-
That outlaw shit. whenever I feel like that outlaw shit whenever I feel that
drifting away is when I really uh start to feel like ah something's off you know my I don't I
don't like what I'm doing here even so it's I might be doing the exact same thing but it's
attached to something which I think is why the new industry is so good like even the fact that the
you know I've I kind of moved here and I do really well and but i don't think that the industry like has a place for me and it's like they're doing you
a favor in a lot of ways you know because man listen yes you're right i believe in that the
industry can tell you know all they want to but there's nobody more than comedians who have proven
this industry wrong and have gone right
over that wall,
through that fucking wall,
under that wall,
around that wall.
If you're not saying like,
there's so many good,
talented,
funny musicians,
comedians,
artists,
and there's this,
there's this,
you know,
industry,
this wall that says,
we're not saying you're not,
but we're going to,
you can go,
you can go,
you failed seven times,
but you can keep on going
yeah you're going again you're going again you're going again you fuck you can still go you've raped
people you can still go but you nah something we don't like about you i don't know what it is and
then you got to figure out your own fucking way but it's hard it's better now because because
of comedians in our world it's because of comedians comedians have taken these fucking podcasts right here fucking athletes actors nobody would took podcast and took it to this level like
comedians have now everybody's got a fucking podcast yeah but it was comics everyone's running
a business started that shit the the rogans and mark maron and hardwick and, God, Earwolf guys going way back and Segura and Burr.
All these guys were doing this shit way early on.
And now look where they are.
And now everybody's doing it.
And everybody's got one.
But those people, the comedians are the people that have had to change more than.
If you're an actor, you still got to do the same shit.
Take your classes.
Learn someone else's fucking lines.
That's it.
Right?
But for comedians, when I first started, it was just jokes.
And then it was WordPress.
And then it was all these social media platforms.
And then it was get your shit on video.
And then it was this and this and podcast.
And it's like, holy shit, we have had to evolve, evolve, evolve.
More, I feel like, in art than any probably um art form there is out there i really feel like
comedians have had to just change more than any art form yeah because the thing shifted so quick
so it kind of feels like like there's some girl that you like want so bad or something like that
for a lot of people and then you kind of you go get rich and you know successful and your life
kind of rules and she's like you know what i decided I do one. And you're like, what? I got 40. Yeah, dude,
like you go to a meeting now and it's like, not to like talk about money like that, but it's like,
let's even say not me, but like a lot of other people that are even way bigger than me. It's
like, you know, a lot of my friends and me, to some extent, you go to these like meetings now
and they're like, Hey, like, you know, if you could pitch us this thing,
maybe you can get a show.
And you're like,
I don't know if you know this,
but we're all rich now.
Like,
it's like,
dude,
I don't know.
Like,
it's like,
you guys not get like,
you missed it.
And I think that that's why if they want people,
they just have to,
you know,
drop like insane deals for people now.
Cause you're just like,
dude,
like my life is good.
Like I'm,
I do what I want to do.
We're making stuff. I mean, there's still, it i want to do we're making stuff i mean there's
still it's problems like you can always get deleted and there's there's still issues with
deleted i like that saying they can delete you you just got deleted
i like that better than cancel man, man. He got deleted. A deleted culture over there.
He got scrubbed.
Well, if they disappear your YouTube channel, you got deleted.
Yeah, it's deleted.
That's true.
But, you know, at the same time, it is.
So there is that thing where you got bullied into doing what you want to do anyway.
It's like tough love almost.
But then they want to come back, and they're like, hey, let's do stuff.
And you're like, what?
Well, also, just artistically, just because you have a good idea doesn't mean you're going to have another one.
You know what I mean?
Especially one that was right for that moment, for that energy.
For example, you're talking about the type of music you had in the moment past and it was over.
No energy there.
Right.
But if you had that one good idea, well, if that music doesn't last forever, there's no guarantee you're going to come up with another band and another genre that's going to fucking kill.
You can come up with a TV show, a great TV show.
There's no guarantee you're going to do another one or come up with a good one.
There's no guarantee you're going to have another good album, another good show.
Or for entrepreneurs, you built a company that you were on the pulse like i think you can look at that for any
business you know it's like i i think if you're able i'm sorry i wanted to say this because what
i'm getting at is they should pay someone you should want someone to pay you handsomely for
something that is your fucking passion and if i'm gonna give it up and I may never have another one again, then for me, that financial reward has got to be worth the fact that I could – you could just take – basically, you're taking it from me and I could never have it again today.
That's where I would look at it.
Yeah.
And you've got to compensate me for the rest of my fucking life because I know once I give this up, I know that you people are going to ruin the fucking thing because that's what you do.
And this is the one time that I was, my age was right for this moment.
My perspective was right.
Everything lined up.
Everything lined up.
And if you're going to take it and probably ruin it.
Then pay the fuck out of me.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Because there's no guarantee the stars are lining up again.
And what am I going to do that times if it happens a few times in your life where you're just like man i'm in the zone on all
fucking levels if that happens a few times in your life it's probably a pretty decent ratio
i mean if you get one in this business it's fucking it's hot yeah i do that with, with everything right now.
This is like a Scott Adams thing,
the Dilbert guy,
but he's like,
he once said when you're writing,
and I think it's for thinking and for people,
but when you're like,
use your brain to write,
but use your like stomach and body to find out when you're excited.
So it's like,
you know that like whether it's a person,
whether it's an idea, whether it's like a chick, even whatever, it's like, use your head for all this. You know So it's like, you know that like whether it's a person, whether it's an idea,
whether it's like a chick,
even whatever,
it's like,
use your head for all this.
You know,
you might go,
you know what?
I don't think I want to be with this chick or I don't think that's the right
move.
And that might be fine,
but that can all tell you what's bad.
But if you like it,
you can only listen to like,
Oh,
something you're like,
I don't know.
I'm something's getting me going here.
A primal is happening here.
Something.
Yeah.
Yeah. And the more you can like get in touch with that, the more you can kind of, you know, oh no, something's getting me going here. A primal's happening here. Something, yeah.
And the more you can like get in touch with that,
the more you can kind of,
you know, like a metal detector,
you can be that for what needs to be said or what needs to be made
or what like, you know,
what person you need to like add to your mix.
You're like, fuck,
this guy would be a good person in the squad right now.
It can be even as simple as that. So yeah, trying to get in touch with that like primal that's a good way to put it
just that like what buzzes you up say i try to dude this has been a really fun episode man i've
enjoyed sitting here and listening to you made me laugh fucking thanks buddy yeah no it's been cool
to hang hard dude i like what you guys have got going here too and i was hanging with josh too and like now you guys have you guys have built like a cool
little movement here too it's very uh it's very cool to see what like all these different pockets
of people have like built and just even even watch like how your operation runs like you know how
your team works and all that stuff like i think it's cool thank you man we do have kirsten's
fucking kick ass we got any working but again and it's because what we talked about earlier tom and christina reaching down and
pulling us up you know and giving us a chance and then it and also like i don't want to let them
down yeah you know what i mean like you don't get an opportunity from one of the best or two of the
best in the world at what they do they're crushing it and then have them
give you a chance and you just fucking come in and half-ass it you know what i mean like that's not
that's not what you do with that opportunity so it's part of it is i want to be successful but
not just for me i want you know i i want to make them proud yeah you know i know that might sound
stupid no it doesn't i'm older than tom but but Tom, but I don't want you to be like, man, you gave me this opportunity.
And I say all the time, I hung a shower curtain up behind me and just started talking.
No, we're not going to do it the way it's going to be.
Yeah, but you're right.
You're like, no, if we're going to do this, we're going to do it right.
We're going to do it right.
Go all in.
But yeah, you do need yourself to be jazzed up up but you do also need some components of like
i mean that's why stand-up's cool because you do get that thing from it where it's like all right
there's a bunch of people telling me i'm great and it's immediate that's the other thing the
response that's the heroine and then you don't become a mess in your real life whereas you know
you need that trouble to get yourself jazzed up in real life you can have you can actually
have your life in order and your chaos can come kind of like,
you can create it right on stage.
Your chaos can,
can be controlled,
orchestrated,
and you still get the buzz.
You're like,
it's like giving yourself,
what's the,
when they give you instead of heroin?
Uh,
methadone.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like laughter and,
you know,
like,
uh,
causing trouble,
like in your job,
that's like the methadone as opposed to causing magical trouble.
Thank you again.
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Yeah.
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man.
Thank you very much.
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