The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 111 | "Are We Beefing?"
Episode Date: May 10, 2017Episode 111 ... a lot covered, Travis/Lyor, Lavar Ball, Yes Julz, artist management, Aaron Hernandez, Meek Mill, Charles Barkley, Tahiry, Nick, and much more! Sleeper Songs Of The Week: Joe: CeeLo "Re...dbone" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REzU35yFfNo Rory: JMSN "Cruel Intentions" | https://soundcloud.com/iamjmsn/cruel-intentions-single Mal: WunTayk Timmy x Bryson Tiller "Cake" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPgE0Np1l94
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No Joe Biden.
Joe Joe.
Joe Joe's therapist.
I'm concerned about that show for one reason.
I've seen some infighting taken to the Twitter streets.
Uh-oh.
With academics and Joe Biden?
Academics, Joe, and then also Rory.
Rory's doing some tweets about how Joe's taking all his talking points
and using them
drop that
I see academics like
they're making edits
I saw those tweets too Andrew
Rory looking salty
turn it down
let's make jokes
you simply just don't know
as much as you do
we can make jokes over this
hey Andrew
I've seen Rory's tweets too
Rory looking a little salty
in these streets
I don't know man
Rory's never been sarcastic
it's looking like It's looking like
it's some beef.
Some in-house hate.
Is the podcast breaking up?
All right, turn it up.
Let me hear what he's saying.
All these new artists
Joe don't know about,
that's you.
You can school him on that.
Exactly, yeah.
But don't try to school him
on the industry
because academics,
you've done nothing
in the industry.
And I'm not saying this out of,
this is my guy.
I love academics.
That's my man.
I talk to him on the phone.
I try to give him pointers because I think he's talented.
He is.
You don't know anything about the industry yet.
That's true.
So you can't lean on your industry experience.
You can't lean on what you think you know.
Focus on what you're good at.
That's it.
You shoot threes, shoot threes.
That's it.
You can't lean on what you know.
Andrew, stop shooting threes.
Joe Budden's telling you how this shit is.
You're leaning on what you think you know.
You're on the outside looking in.
Joe Budden is an actual insider.
You're dealing with an expert.
Yes.
This is somebody who has 20 years experience
inside the industry.
All it is is true.
You have to give leeway to him
when he's talking points.
Give me my leeway.
My concern is this,
and this is what I'll say to Rory,
to academics, and to Joe.
Give Rory.
You have something that people are talking about.
We're talking about right now the brilliant idiots.
We've never once talked about a-
I mean, we're talking about Joe Budden.
Yes, y'all have.
Definitely talked about our podcast
on your podcast, Andrew. You're lying. We've never talked about a Joe Budden podcast on the brilliant idiots before. We've done once talked about I mean we're talking about Yes y'all have Definitely talked about Our podcast On your podcast Andrew
You're lying
We've never talked about
A Joe Budden podcast
On the Brilliant Idiots
We've done your podcast
We meshed podcasts
But we've never discussed it
We've never talked about
Really anything
We talked about Joe and Tax
When Tax
When he got out
But that's Tax
We're not talking about Joe
No no
Y'all talking about Joe
Nigga
Right
But right now
They have something
That the people are talking about
We're talking about
On Brilliant Idiots
It's a big platform
You have something that's working.
Regardless if you guys are-
I don't want to hear this shit anymore.
It's working and people are talking about it.
I agree with that.
I only wanted to play this.
Hello, everybody.
Welcome to the Joe Budden Podcast.
My name is Joe Budden.
Across from me is Rory Lanes to his-
Which way is that?
Left is mall.
Yes, high school dropout.
School dropout.
Never liked that shit from day one.
That's Nas, Rory.
That's great Are you talking about the guy from the Hennessy ads?
Yeah, that's him
He be with Davies
I think you're confusing your co-hosts
Yeah, you know what?
Because I talk to act like that
It got me talking to everybody like that
It do
So welcome to what episode is this? This is episode number 100 And can I even go on like that, it got me talking to everybody like that. It do. So welcome to what episode is this?
Episode number 100 and can I even go on?
11, I think.
111, that's big.
Yeah.
Wait, I might be lying.
Should make a wish.
Oh, that's 1111.
Should make a wish.
I make a wish anytime the clock is all the same number.
How's that going for you?
How's that going for you? I would like to know. Tell me why that's funny to y'all. I'm a joke. How's it going? you? How's that going for you?
I would like to know.
Tell me why that's funny to y'all.
I'm a joke?
How's it going?
I'm a joke?
I'm a clown to y'all?
Yes, yes.
You make us laugh.
You are a clown.
I'm like, PlayStation to y'all?
Niggas and stuff?
Y'all definitely ain't see Casino.
Fuck out of here, man.
That wasn't Casino.
That was Goodfellas.
Whatever movie it was, you didn't see it.
Joe, that was Goodfellas.
Listen, a lot to get to.
I say that even when it ain't a lot to get to. I say that even when it ain't a lot to get to.
You do say that when it's not a lot to get to.
Every time we have nothing to talk about.
But we find it, though.
We find some shit to get to, though.
Yeah, we're going to find it.
It's a lot to get to today.
I wanted to start with that Charlamagne shit because his assessment of me was great.
That was a very valid.
That was the first time I heard that.
That was a valid.
What he was saying was, I'm no longer an underground rapper Joe guy.
No, you're an industry puppet now, to be quite honest. That's what he was saying was, I'm no longer underground rapper Joe guy. No, you're an industry puppet now, to be quite honest.
That's what he was saying.
You are.
You have more industry than him.
Shut the fuck up, Rory.
I'm just saying.
You're trolling right now.
No, I'm not.
But he wasn't trolling.
So I called Charlamagne.
And I wanted to tell him the differences that I thought were there.
Complex is not going to censor me.
Yet, yet. They have no ties to any record labels.
That's not the business.
This is why you are an industry puppet, because they do have ties to mad record labels, and
you're just giving the spiel that they don't.
I get it.
You're doing what you thought Chance was doing, being fake independent, but really backed.
I get it.
You're really an industry puppet now.
I believe you, Charlamagne.
I'm on your side.
They didn't teach me that in the complex training before I got the job.
In your HR meeting?
Oh, they gave you training?
I did make up a title for myself and put it in my Twitter bio.
I was going to put it in the group chat so we can make fun of me, but fuck it.
Wait, it's in your Twitter bio right now?
100%.
Oh, my God.
Go look.
Hold on.
I learned that in corporate America.
They teach me to make up titles.
Your Twitter bio?
To make up a title.
You didn't know how to put something in your Twitter bio before corporate America?
I didn't know how to make up a title.
Shut up, Rory.
Look at Maul.
Look at him.
But look at Maul.
Chief cultural director.
Wait, no.
Wait, what?
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
Whoa.
Wait, Maul said.
Wait, what?
Chief cultural director for complex media.
Yo.
Wait, hold on.
All right.
You're the chief cultural director?
You just read that, right?
So why are you questioning the chief?
Because it's a Twitter bio.
Why are you questioning the chief?
Why are you questioning the chief?
Who's the chief?
Me.
Get the fuck out of here.
I'm not the chief?
No. What village? The chief cultural director. What tribe? What tribe are you questioning the chief? Who's the chief? Me. Get the fuck out of here. I'm not the chief? No.
Of what village?
The chief cultural.
What tribe?
What tribe are you the chief of?
Why is everyone hating?
I'm so glad I just found, I'm so glad I just saw this.
Because I wouldn't look at your bio.
Like, I don't look at, you know, I don't click on your bio.
You're too busy letting the like handle on Instagram.
You can't like a bio.
Liking toddlers.
Chief cultural director.
Well, he came with the chief.
Listen.
Oh, you want to stop saying that?
Molly's the chief liker?
The chief cultural.
I am the chief liker.
That nigga is the head CEO of Like Records.
Like Records.
Like Records is a funny ass name
for a label
he's the CFO
of the double tap
yeah that nigga's
the art department
of Like Records
right
everything
right
mad records coming out too
holy shit
alright
they doing numbers
have you looked at your timeline
where do we
where do we start
this week
so much is important
breaking news breaking news well it's not breaking if it's tomorrow if it's Wednesday but Have you looked at your timeline? Where do we start this week? So much is important.
Breaking news, breaking news.
Well, it's not breaking if it's tomorrow, if it's Wednesday.
But who did you say just passed away, unfortunately?
Christopher Big Black Boykins from Robin Big.
Died at 45.
I just read that when we were.
Damn.
I don't know.
Rest in peace, man.
I used to watch that show.
I'm scared.
They had a great dynamic. It was a really good show. Rest in peace man I used to watch that show I'm scared They had a great dynamic It was a really good show
Yeah
Rest in peace
They just call me old and shit
Cause I'm 36
The 40s is what's scary
To me
Not because you're any less cool
In your 40s
40s is great
40s I feel like
You on God's radar now
If you
You on God's radar now. If you may.
You're on God's radar now.
Somehow you managed to sneak by living recklessly in your 20s
and maybe some of you for your 30s.
He saw you in the back of the party
and said, how long have you been there?
At your 40th birthday,
God is watching.
That's when he starts watching, at 40.
Yeah, paranoid me thinks that.
So I'm just paranoid.
Let me knock on wood.
Knock on apple.
Let me knock on the mic.
I'm knocking on life records.
I'm knocking on fucking everything.
I'm knocking on life.
Fuck you, Joe.
This is crazy.
All right.
So let's start with Nikki.
Sure.
Shouts to Nikki.
What did Nikki do?
She went on social media and somebody had questioned her about paying off a college loan.
And she said, yeah, send me your grades.
And, you know, and so she started paying some of her fans a college loan, their tuition, which was dope.
Has anyone received the money yet?
I'm just here to be a hater.
I'm sure they have.
Because if not, we would have heard about it.
No, I think that's phenomenal that she's doing that.
I think encouraging kids to. But let's just not throw up. I'm sure she did. I'm sure she has. Well, let's have some fun with it, though. not, we would have heard about it. No, I think that's phenomenal that she's doing that. I think encouraging kids to—
But let's not throw a I'm sure she did.
Well, let's have some fun with it, though.
Okay, let's have fun with it.
All of them are still in the red.
We'll be graduating soon, though.
I agree with—
Can you imagine standing in line for fucking admissions for like four hours on the first day of school,
and they run up like, nah, B, nothing came through.
And you're like, well, no, Miss Minaj said she sent the check-in.
Yeah, Nikki said it clear.
Definitely don't have to stand in line for admissions in 10th grade.
I don't think there's admissions in 10th grade.
I left after the 10th grade.
I don't know what Rory is talking about.
There was a lot of education going on out there.
You know what's funny?
I get a lot of the dropout jokes like Rory didn't get kicked off.
He's the only white person to get kicked off the track team.
Well, no, no, no, no.
I was kicked out of school, but the track team was at school.
See?
I was still on the team.
Didn't you have like a track scholarship or some shit?
A full Division I track scholarship, yes.
Talk about a nigga ruining his white privilege.
Talk about a nigga just throwing his white privilege to the side, Rory.
Can't hang around
too many black people.
And now he's stuck
with you and me.
We'll ruin you.
Where did this go?
Where was I going to go?
The Olympics?
Maybe.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Fucking with black people
and drinking Henny.
Yeah, word.
See what he gets you?
You don't want these
black problems, man.
I don't.
I don't at all.
He want now.
He kind of do something.
He kind of do.
Clearly.
I don't know what
the Manny Palooza boys
be doing, man.
But it's a lot of black niggas.
Rory, right there, slap in the middle of it.
100%.
But, no, there's nothing to say about the Nicki shit.
It's dope.
I thought that was pretty dope.
Yeah, I was just being a dick.
I think it is really dope.
I do.
I still have theories about it.
But now is not the time.
It's not the time for theories.
It's such a noble move.
It's such a great move
that who cares why?
Let's let that live for a minute.
Who cares why she's doing it?
Right.
I don't care why.
Right.
It's a great move
and it's smart.
You know what?
Now,
I saw French also
did some noble shit.
Yeah?
He went to noble?
No, Rory.
Oh.
That was you
and a French girl.
He went to no good No
French was
He did something real dope
Like he
Adopted somebody
Donated money somewhere
He did some real dope shit
And I was like
Yo
These niggas is
Bodying this
This shit now
Right
If y'all adopting kids
Yo if that shit
If the new way to stump
Is adopting children.
If you are Angelina Jolene, your album rolled out.
That's crazy.
I'm commending you.
You won.
Yeah, you won.
You bigger than Life Records.
You can't sign to Life Records.
That's out of our budget.
We ain't doing that.
So the Nicki shit was dope.
So we're there.
Opening close on that.
Wait, you didn't tell us how the guy passed away.
Oh, it says unknown.
It happened this morning.
It's always unknown until we get to it.
Of course, but you know.
I get it.
Aaron Hernandez, his murder conviction was thrown out.
Was he raised?
Today, yeah.
Yeah.
And I asked on Twitter, because that's the best place to get a question answered,
if this means that his family is going to get that money entitled to his contract.
And it was like split.
Half of lawyer Twitter said yes.
The other half of lawyer Twitter said no.
Lawyer Twitter is funny.
So I think even if they legally have to,
I don't see Robert Kraft giving that money to the Hernandez family.
I don't see Roger Goodell.
I don't see anybody in the league.
I see them creating a lot of red tape for that family.
Even if it's legal and they have to, they're going to keep them in court
until they can't afford it anymore and they settle.
$100, settle for $500 and a drink from Bernice.
But, I mean, it's unfortunate.
It would be nice of the NFL, even though they don't have a heart,
to just try to make good for the daughter, at least,
out of this terrible situation that has happened because he was killing within the
in-laws of the family so a lot every both sides suffered money might help
this daughter but there but there but now they investigate they're looking at
his brain to see if he had CT uh present CT I don't even yeah I thought that was
Jesus record label well it is that is, but that's when you have concussions.
That's what that movie was about.
Oh, with Will Smith.
Yeah, okay.
So if that was the case...
Wait, wait, wait.
All right, so the NFL
has been trying to get away
from this CTE shit forever,
but the moment it may benefit them
for a psychopath
killing himself in prison,
now they're all for this shit?
No, the family is...
Let me tell you something about
Roger Goodell.
He lied!
Y'all niggas worship him!
I don't worship
Robert Cadell.
He definitely lied.
He did lie.
Lied!
Robert Krafton lied a lot too,
but he cool.
But he cool, yeah.
We give him a...
No, he ain't.
Nah, I fuck with him.
Why do you fuck with him?
I hate Robert Kraft.
I fuck with people
that wear Air Force Ones
with suits.
Fucking lied!
While they shake Trump's hand?
No.
No. Not while they shake Trump's hand? No. No.
Not why they shake Trump's hand.
What else went on?
I don't know if I have much to say about the Aaron Hernandez shit.
Because it's like not enough.
It's not enough.
It's touchy.
It's still ongoing, too.
It's touchy.
I want to have respect for the victim's families.
With Rory, I want the kid to be okay.
They didn't have anything
to do with anything.
Apparently, he said in the note,
y'all are rich.
Right.
So this was a plan of his.
He clearly did some research.
And he said in the beginning
of the note,
I told you this
without telling you already.
I gave you the sign
this was happening.
So obviously,
there was something.
This was a plan he had.
Can I get you gentlemen's thoughts on women doing bids with their locked up significant others?
What are the bid rules?
What are you guys' thoughts on bid rules?
I'll go last.
I don't want to go to jail.
How long is the sentence that I'm doing?
Yeah, because that's key.
That's very key.
Oh, let's keep it light.
A year and a half.
Oh, you got to hold that down.
You got to completely hold that down.
Yeah.
Write me.
Keep my commissary full.
Yo, men are great.
All that shit.
You got to hold.
A year and a half?
She got to hold that down.
Come on, man.
If I'm doing 10, just write me.
Keep my commissary full.
Be there mentally. You can do whatever you want. Just don't tell me, just write me, keep my commissary full, be there mentally,
you can do whatever you want,
just don't tell me about it.
Listen,
if Rory is doing 10,
that penny palooza party
went horribly wrong.
Listen.
Knock on apple.
A year and a half,
she got to eat that though.
She can't,
she got to hold that down.
All right,
I guess what I'm getting to
is when are you...
I might have parole soon.
When are y'all
a bit more lenient? When would you understand her, you know what I'm getting to Is when I might have parole soon Like come on When are you When are y'all a bit more lenient
When would you understand
Her
You know what I mean
Get closer to the three here Mark
But three means you get out
And fucking
One and a half down there
No I'm saying if you
Oh if you have to do the three
Yeah like if you in there for three years
Then how would you would expect
Just make sure I'm straight
Man
Nah
No Nah you can't fuck nobody I got a three year bid What No then you would expect... Just make sure I'm straight. Man, no.
No.
No, you can't fuck nobody.
I got a three-year bid.
What?
No.
You got... Listen, man.
I said no.
A year and a half,
a year and a half, that's it.
I'm the chief.
What are you talking...
Wait, you think they're going to disobey the chief?
You're going to be chief disappointed.
That's who you're going to be.
I'm going to be complex.
Exactly. Perplexed, all the plexes I'm going to be complex. Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Perplexed.
All the plexes.
Three years, she busting that thing over.
Oh. Look at that.
Yeah.
With someone you know, too.
No, not my baby.
Okay.
Only malls girls.
The likes didn't keep them there.
Yeah, yeah.
They wasn't feeling like records.
Once you're not in the little heart section of Instagram, you're no longer.
Listen, I'm freestyling this whole show.
I've been talking all day and all week.
I'm letting Rory pull up.
There's too much shit to talk about, so y'all pull him up and we'll just discuss him.
Fuck that.
Let's talk about Joe's friend of the show, not Maul and I's friend of the show.
Yes, Jules seemed to get herself into some hot water this week.
That was my radio voice.
Our old boy showed her the sex tape.
Showed her the sex tape.
Is it even really considered sex tapes anymore?
Is that still a term?
I guess.
It's not really a term.
Are we desensitized to sex?
It's like a sex slide.
Yeah, but I'm just saying, is that still a big deal?
Sex trailer.
Is that a big deal to see a girl having sex?
Yeah, it's a sex teaser.
No, it's not, but we still going to talk about it.
Yeah, but it's like we're men, and men are easily entertained.
I thought, yeah.
I normally don't.
Well, I'm in love, but the sex tape normally don't do anything to add to the chick's allure.
It normally hurts it.
Yeah, I was going to say.
You kind of look at them different.
It depends on how good or how bad the
sex tape is. Because if it's
great, like, if she looks great and she's
like, you know, then it could help.
Alright. Did Yes
Jules' tape help or hurt at
all? I don't really even want
to talk about it. I don't think it did. I don't think it
hurt her. It didn't seem to hurt, right?
No. I think other things that she's done
on social media
has hurt more than that.
Like what?
Tell me some of those.
Well, the shirt she said
she wanted to wear.
Yeah, clearly.
Well, clearly that.
But I mean,
some things before that.
What was the other thing
that happened?
The shit that
came back about
the black girl thing.
I think that hurt more
than that sex thing.
All right, let's stop right there.
Let's deal with that.
Let's deal with that for a second.
Women, it's no nice way to say this.
We're looking for a nice way to say this.
I know that's your man on the gram, but come on.
I was trying to find a nice way to say it, but fuck it.
Wait, what is it that you're going to say before you say something?
I'm not going to say nothing too crazy, but I'm just saying women.
Wait, what were you just talking about?
Jules, sex tape?
Jules and her black women friend.
Oh, women that are not of color.
Yeah.
Anytime you start talking about all the black men want me and not y'all, you come off away.
I don't,
why am I the first person to say,
why,
how come nobody,
Jules has enough black friends.
Why am I the only one saying this?
You might not be the only one saying it.
Clearly I'm the only one saying this.
Saying what exactly?
What are you saying?
That she should be a bit more aware of
how she comes off a bit more i mean after she's already been getting killed for over a year about
how she takes from black culture and what she gives to it is insulting yeah but you know when
you come and do she can't for for all that she's built i can't say she's a stupid girl she has to
have some intelligence so to post a shirt like, knowing what you've been through already,
I have no sympathy for you.
You're a fucking idiot.
I didn't understand that.
You're stupid.
You're just dumb.
She should definitely be more conscious of what she's doing.
Jules' area of expertise would be marketing.
I don't know.
Listen, I didn't really know about that.
Jules is a brand ambassador.
Okay.
Now I know that it's cool
to make fun of that term.
Yeah.
But she's booked.
She gets booked.
She gets gigs.
She does business.
She's connected,
it seems, right?
She's been successful.
I don't think anyone would say
she's been unsuccessful.
I'm the chief more or less.
No, she's the chief of vibes.
Yeah, she's the chief of vibes.
She curates the vibes.
That's what I know her from. She's's the chief of vibes. Yeah, she's the chief of vibes. She curates the vibes.
That's what I know her from. She's definitely the chief of vibes.
I feel like people that hang out with enough black people,
somebody should say it.
If Roy did some real stupid shit, I would say something.
Because I love him.
I don't love Jules enough to say something,
so I had to ignore all the texts that she sent me.
I had to.
My girl has drawn a line in the sand.
Honestly.
So is this sin or your blackness?
No, I get it.
Wait, what?
Yeah, no, I get it.
That's a real thing.
Yeah.
And she's right.
She's absolutely right.
Y'all know it's in my nature to want to help, to want to help people,
to want to give some information.
Fam, you make it real hard.
What do you want me to do?
Did y'all believe her apology on Snapchat?
Fuck no.
Yeah, I don't know how you cried.
I don't know, I ain't leave that.
I never met Jules, so I don't know what's real and what's not.
I've met Jules.
I'm speculating, of course.
But to me, it just didn't look like it.
The Jules that I know or don't know, because I don't know her.
Let me be very clear.
I don't know.
You meet people.
Today you meet people and people just, they're besties forever and you just know.
I don't know Jules.
I've met her.
She's done the podcast.
She's a friend of the show.
Yeah.
Or used to be, anyway.
She's not.
Not anymore.
Hell no.
No, no, no, no, no.
I can't support it.
I can't comfortably support knowing that.
No, no.
I don't even know how to word it because it's touchy, but no.
I can't support that.
How?
Tell me how I can feel comfortable supporting it.
I'll ask from the outside looking in, obviously.
How do you feel about the black people that are still supporting her after this?
Because there were a lot.
It's not my place to judge what anyone else does and what opinions anyone else forms.
I'm concerned about me and mine.
We not rolling.
That, no.
I will say this i don't think jules is like i said i've never met
her but i don't think she's racist at all i don't i don't get that from her i think that she's just
not you know conscious of things that she does where it could be taken and she's kind of a target
i think people be waiting for her to make little slip ups here of course they could just go in on
her you know i mean so that's like a slippery slope too.
But.
It ain't slippery when you post this shirt.
You take all the slip off the slope.
Yeah, I get that.
I get that.
But like I said, I don't.
But she is a target.
Yeah, she's definitely a target.
100%.
100%.
Yeah, but I think it wasn't people going, she's a full blown racist.
It's that you're so egotistical that you think you can say
these things in a culture and it's okay part of yeah like you're above this now you have gone
into you're so accepted by everyone that you can say these things which is i think would really
upset people because no i don't think jules is going to clan meetings me i just think she's
just has a really big ego now right if there were vibes at the Klan meeting, I would...
She might be under one of them hoods.
She's not under any of the hoods, Paul.
She's not fucking Clayton Bigsby underneath the fucking hood.
And then there's always a target where white girls would ask.
Yeah.
I don't care how you got your ass.
Yeah.
Because that's not natural ass.
Well, we don't need to go into that.
Yeah, it's not, but I wasn't... It's not important. Yeah. I we don't need to go into that. Yeah,
it's not,
but I wasn't.
It's not important.
Yeah.
I mean,
it adds nothing to the story.
I'm just saying,
when you have ass,
no matter how you got it,
you're a target.
That's all.
Yeah.
Well,
was she saying she wasn't white?
Because I mean,
when she went on that black girl rant,
she hashtagged it white thoughts.
So I always thought she identified as white.
And then when she said this, all of a sudden,
she's now Puerto Rican.
I don't like that either.
So I thought that was a bit odd. I don't like that either. So I thought that was a bit odd.
I don't like that either.
I don't like Logic being black and white.
Oh, yeah.
What was your whole, I was listening to it at work,
so I wasn't, like, fully focused.
What is your issue with Logic?
Oh, my bad.
The song.
The one with J. Cole on it?
The last record?
No.
No.
Most definitely.
Okay, I'll have to re-listen to it.
But what is the gist of the song?
I'm black and I'm white.
And I struggle with being black and white.
Except me.
I have a cousin named Keisha.
I like chitlins.
Like, that is what that song was.
All right, what's wrong with that?
You white, nothing.
I'm not in a tabloid conversation.
What do you mean what's wrong with that?
If that's what his life, I mean, you said I'm Joe Budden, I'm depressed, accept me.
No, I didn't.
Is that what I said?
Well.
Show me where I said accept me.
Show me where I said to anybody, accept me in my music.
Accept me?
I said, fuck all you niggas.
This is me. I'm talking to God. All my songs are I said, fuck all you niggas. This is me.
I'm talking to God.
All my songs are talking to God.
I hate niggas.
I'll reword it.
I accept myself.
So that's what I think he's saying.
Rory, that's great.
That's fine that you accept yourself.
At a time, and I think you're just doing this for podcast.
I'm not.
I really want to know.
I don't see what's wrong with that.
There's nothing wrong with it.
I think Cole and Drake have both rapped about those two things, and it's been fine.
What's wrong with Logic?
Logic has an entire album about it.
Okay.
That's number one.
Don't listen to it.
He's had a few albums about it.
That's number two.
Number three, it's done on this particular song.
I'm not talking about the album.
The album's great.
This particular song, it's done very cookie cutter and cheesy with a lot of pro black people references from a gentleman that looks as white as my walls in my house.
Now, there's nothing wrong with that.
He's half black, half white.
All of that's great.
Now, there's nothing wrong with that.
He's half black, half white.
All of that's great.
But you're asking a black man in today's world to empathize with your struggle from being biracial.
Sorry.
And he's directly asking for empathy in that.
Well, all right.
I'm sorry.
Again, I haven't listened to the record. I'm just going to go off what I think he may be saying.
I do not empathize with that struggle.
I don't know.
I'm sure there is one.
I don't think he was saying, hey, I have as much struggle as someone that's very dark-skinned in America.
But, hey, this is what I've been going through my whole life with not knowing which side I've been a part of because I look white, but my whole family is black.
So I identify with that side of my family, yet I'm this fair-skinned.
That's an interesting way to live, I think. Why don't you empathize with that side of my family, yet I'm this fair skinned. That's an interesting way to live, I think.
Why don't you empathize with that, though?
It's got to be a little odd if you identify more with your black side of your family,
but you look white.
That's when I put my all black matters, I mean my black lives matter hat on.
I'm just insensitive.
I'm just insensitive.
I don't know it.
It's ignorance.
I don't know what, and I said that on my show, I don't know what goes on when you're biracial.
I know what goes on when you're black.
And I would like to think what happens when you're biracial can't stand in the same room to what happens when you're black.
Oh, I'm not.
I don't think either of us are.
I have an issue.
Sorry.
I have an issue with people that can play both sides of the fence when it's convenient for them.
I'm not saying that Logic does that
because I don't know him.
Yeah.
But from listening to the music,
hold up, hold up.
I mean, this is most definitely
off Logic's album, Everybody.
Logic has great beats on his album, by the way.
Is this your sleeper pic?
No.
Let me just get to the end where he's talking this stupid shit.
I believe that everybody feel Everybody feel, listen up
Everybody over here
I promise to God on everything
It ain't nothing to fear
Anybody that can hear
Just fight, fight for the right
Black people
Oh, here we go
Believe it's right
Fight for the right
Fight for your life
Fight for what you believe is right
Everybody fight
Everybody fight
Matter of fact
Everybody beautiful
But right now what I need
Black people
To just fight
Fight for your right
Fight for your life Black people Just fight Fight for the right Fight for your life Speed is bricks.
Bam. Black people One thing that I can be sure Black people are beautiful Amazing, incredible
Black people are beautiful
I know
I know
I know what y'all thinking
I'm gonna let it play
There's a black people chant
In this bitch
Say something, mall.
I'm listening.
You're defending.
No, I'm just listening.
I've never.
Listen then.
They're still chanting.
Mall.
Rory.
Okay.
I'll agree with you with the cookie cutter cheesy way.
That I will agree with.
That was cheesy.
It was very cheesy. And I like Logic a lot. I do too. And I think he can rap with the cookie cutter cheesy way. That I will agree with. It was very cheesy.
And I like Logic a lot.
I do too, and I think he can rap really, really, really well.
And I think he makes good music.
But it was a little cheesy.
But if he grew up, I don't know too much about him,
but if his whole family is dark and he grew up around that,
maybe he will love black people in that way.
I didn't even play the worst part where he started talking about his cousin Keisha
and all this other shit.
What if he has a cousin?
I'm sure he has a cousin named Keisha cousin Keisha and all this other shit. What if he has a cousin? I'm sure he has
a cousin named Keisha.
Keisha's a very common name.
Well, no, I mean,
outside of it being cheesy
because that could be
subjective.
Wait, wait,
let's hear more
because more wants to tell.
No, I'm laughing at you.
I know you are.
You're like,
Keisha's a very common name?
That was a good impression.
Keisha's a very common name.
Maul thinks I'm
the funniest guy in the world.
You are, man. I have no idea. You are, man. I thinks I'm the funniest guy in the world. You are, man.
I have no idea.
You are, man.
I have no idea why.
Yeah, you just are.
Jesus, though.
But if he likes black people and thinks they're beautiful, let him say it.
Oh, my God.
This is terrible.
Can somebody please?
Wait, did he lie?
Find y'all a rule.
Get a hold of this motherfucker so I can make sense of all this.
Yeah, that was, yeah.
Where is Ja?
Logic album in stores right now, everybody.
All right, what else we had?
Sorry.
Thanks.
I was texting.
Wonderful.
Oh, this is Yes Jewel's friend, I think.
Travis Scott getting sued by Lior.
I don't know if that's old news,
but I wrote it down early in the week.
That's old news.
I want to hear from Lior.
I think, didn't we touch on, pause, didn't we touch on?
No, it's at the top of my list.
It must have happened right after we finished last week.
Lior going to get that.
Yeah.
That's happening.
That's happening.
That is 100% happening.
So Travis was suggesting that they didn't do anything
so they are not entitled to any money, right?
I don't know what he was suggesting.
He's going to lose.
I mean, if there's a contract, of course he is.
Travis Scott is losing this one.
I know I'm a little Lior Cohen biased, and I love him on the podcast along with L.A. Reid.
I'm going to say that every week.
Speaking into existence.
I hear you.
Listen, can we get to the fun story that I can't talk about?
Oh, boy.
Come on.
One day I would love to have co-hosts that are not.
No, let's talk about it.
Let's talk about it.
I can't talk about anything.
So, Rory, would you.
So, what do you want us to talk about with that subject?
The fact did progress.
Right.
Especially with Yandy and Erica.
I want y'all to report the story.
Who really had the DC's heart?
How did Yandy and Erica end up with sons only 10 months apart?
It was only 10 months apart.
How tangled did the web get?
Yeah, it was pretty tangled.
So obviously we read the news.
Tahiri was arrested for a fight.
She had a fight with her roommate, what the reports are saying.
Yes, according to TMZ.com, 11 hip-hop New York star arrested on her 38th birthday for a beatdown in her apartment.
Now, I have a few questions before you continue.
Let me jump in real quick.
How long do you get to use, how long do they use Love & Hip Hop star after you're off Love & Hip Hop?
Well, Love & Hip Hop is kind of like a, you know, once you're on your family forever, you're part of it forever.
I hated seeing that shit on my name.
Yeah, but it's, you know.
All right, so anyway, go ahead, Rory.
It's who you are.
No, it's not who I am.
It's who you are.
The incident, I'm the loving hip-hop star.
Yes.
The incident went down on Cinco de Mayo, Tahiri's 38th birthday,
after she had just gotten into a physical altercation with a woman who was staying in her New Jersey home.
According to the arrest doc, Tahiri punched and scratched the woman in her face and yanked
her hair, leaving reddish bruises on the right side of her face.
Tahiri tells TMZ she, in fact, was the victim in merely defending herself.
She claims she got home and the woman, whom recently been allowed to stay with her, jumped
her and started making her things.
The period was booked for the assault and released the next day.
Okay, so Cinco de Mayo.
Mayo.
Mayo, Mayo, whatever.
Sounds like alcohol was involved.
Mayo, Mayo.
Well, her birthday.
Yeah, her birthday, Cinco de Mayo.
Alcohol was probably involved.
There was mayonnaise and alcohol involved.
Alcohol was involved, and it sounds like somebody said something that somebody else didn't like,
and, you know, somebody got punched in the face, fucked up.
The only part of this that's just a wild headline,
when you see birthday and jail and spend the night and fight at home.
Yeah, because you always think that in your home nothing's going to happen, that you can't control. jail and spend the night and fight at home. Yeah.
Because you always think that in your home, nothing's going to happen, that you can't control.
So I'm pretty sure, you know.
No, in my home, nothing is going to happen that I cannot control.
Yeah.
That fuck up what you think.
That's usually how it goes.
I'm going to plug in and smash in every phone before someone calls the police on me in my
own house.
Yeah, well, I mean, neighbors hear things, they start calling police.
You know how that shit is.
I would love to make up details for this story because it's really funny in my head,
but I can't.
I can't and I won't.
I'm in love and I don't have exes.
And I want to be sensitive, too.
Not even to, well, I didn't even actually leave the,
TMZ says Tahiri, who dates Joe Budden, not former, who dates Joe Budden— And I want that to stop.
—says the attack was so bad she can't work, but it's unclear what work—wait, hold on.
But it's unclear what work she lost.
No, it doesn't say that.
Yo, I swear on everything I look—
It doesn't say that. Come on.
I wouldn't—I don't know Tahiri.
TMZ is not—
Why would I make this up?
Tahiri, who dates—I'm reading this word for word.
Tahiri, who dates Joe Budden...
Who does not date Joe Budden.
...says the attack was so bad she can't work, but it's unclear what work she lost.
It seems she's talking about doing club appearances because she continues to be on the show.
This is old.
Wait, is that...
When was this fight?
Yeah, because you know there was another fight that she had.
No, this is a new fight.
No, this is a new one.
This was a new bout.
Love Hip Hop New York star busted on her own B-day.
Oh, yeah.
5-9-2017.
Yeah, because this is her new bout.
But how do you get, if I have a fight in my house, how do I get arrested?
A person can press charges.
Not in my house?
Yeah, they can say you attacked him.
That's tricky because they always put in the woman.
All right.
So now let me know.
In New Jersey law.
It's whoever gets to the phone first.
If the cop does not see the fight or the assault, you can't arrest one person.
There's details missing here.
You can't arrest one person.
It's their word against theirs.
Yeah, but if the woman
Is bruised
That's what I'm saying
If her face is fucked up
And you're fine
Then no you still need a witness
That is one of the charges
In New Jersey
So is there a snitch
In this case
I don't know
We're gonna have to
Wait is this a case
We're gonna have to wait and see
This sounds like a case
This might go down
In the Love and Hip Hop History book
Why wasn't Love and Hip Hop
There for that
This is what it came
Cause Gunplay
This is a story That will go down In the love and hip-hop history books gunplay i don't know anything
about this so tell me about well i stopped watching love and hip-hop atlanta me too that
shit is super trash and then i saw my timeline at around like 7 30 everyone's talking about gunplay
i'm like what did gunplay do and then i see that he's on love and hip-hop so i immediately turn it
on there and he's up there pretending to be best friends with stevie j scrappy and the whole crew like they've been friends forever all right i'm off that i'm off that don't care but he's on Love & Hip Hop so I immediately turned it on there and he's up there pretending to be best friends with Stevie J, Scrappy
and the whole crew
like they've been
friends forever
alright I'm off that
I'm off that
don't care
but he's on there
with a girl
I guess they're
moving back to
Miami from Atlanta
I still don't care
Scrappy's gonna go
with them
and be their roommate
Love & Hip Hop
I don't care
it's over
it's over
is it?
yeah it's over
I don't know
I've been saying that
for like three years now
yeah me too
no no no I've been saying Love & Hip Hop is over for three years well you can't really, it's over. I don't know. I've been saying that for like three years now. Yeah, me too. No, no, no, no, no, no.
I can't love a hip hop is over for three years.
This is the last season for sure.
Well, you can't really say it's over because they definitely are expanding.
That's what I'm saying.
It's not going to be over, but what I'm saying is when you expand, normally your content becomes diluted in some type of way.
So they are expanding, and I think that we are seeing the fucking effects because the product is trash.
This Atlanta show is 100% trash
All of it
Most of the new people
The storylines
They're doing a lot
With a little
Old boy got a girl pregnant on the show
And we're not even interested
Kirk with his wife
And the other chick
Once that was over with
Oh, I'm sorry
Oh, I don't know
I stopped watching the show
But I mean, once that that was the only
part that i was like really intrigued that was kirk kirk frost and the fake pregnant i don't
know what's going on last name kirk frost i don't know wild i don't know i'm judging me if i know
kirk's last name but but yeah i'm off of that the new the new york show i don't know what's going on
but there was a whole bunch of new people on his last one. I don't know what they're doing. If they get Tahiri and her roommate, it might be all right.
That's a joke that I can't participate in.
What else is happening in the world?
You know what I want to talk about?
You know what we did not talk about last week?
What's that?
The 700 people that got laid off from ESPN.
That was a very big deal.
And as soon as I got in the car, I said, holy shit.
Now, couple that with they hired Woj from Yahoo.
Big deal.
See, that's a big deal to me.
He kills the draft every year.
Apparently, they hired him for the draft.
He got the bag.
They let my guy, Jay Crawford, go, man.
That one kind of bothered me.
Jay Crawford was my guy.
I kind of seen that one coming.
Did you?
Because what prevalent role did he have now?
That sports center that he was on,
who was watching it?
Who was checking for it?
Yeah, I guess so.
But that was still my guy.
That's my guy too.
I love him.
He was cool as shit.
He was cool as shit.
Biggest Jeezy fan ever.
We fuck with him.
Yeah.
Shout out to him.
But all those people,
they're probably going to land
at Fox or one of these.
He's going to land somewhere.
No, they're going to land
other places for sure.
Yeah, that was a big deal.
I don't know what's going on up there,
but it's interesting to watch,
especially if you're me
and you're into all of that type of shit.
What were you saying, Rory?
Speaking of altercations,
the Chris Brown-Karuchi thing.
Karuchi said she's now going to testify.
We weren't even speaking on altercations.
Tahiri beat the shit out of her roommate.
Yeah, but that was 10 minutes ago.
You got to change your segue.
No, that was the segue.
You were talking about ESPN.
Yeah, we were talking about ESPN.
They were speaking of altercations.
Go ahead.
I'm just talking shit.
Come on.
But you asked, and we was talking.
It's okay, Rory.
It's all right.
We're just joking.
What happened now?
Karuchi says she's going to go to the court and testify and shit.
And say that he was very physical with her.
Yo, listen, man.
I just pray for Chris Brown, man.
It just seems like he's always into something.
Always.
And I know you guys are Chris Brown stans.
I'm not.
So I have to ask, is he the common denominator in all of these?
Wait, who the fuck is a Chris Brown stan?
Both of you.
I'm not a Chris Brown stan.
Yes, you are.
But this is one of the greatest songs ever made.
I thought this was the remix.
Yeah, you are a stan If you don't have the remix
I have the remix
This is a hard beat
No no no
The original was the one
When Tyga bodied that shit
Y'all are the niggas
Who got Tyga out of here
Tyga bodied that
I will give him that
Tyga
But he said
Valentine's Day
That irks my soul
When people call it
Valentine's Day
That irks my soul
Man
Y'all let Kanye
Put a whole different actor
in a metaphor.
No, I thought it,
but people didn't care.
Y'all let Kanye
do a lot of shit, man.
We let Jay say
the sun revolves around the earth.
We've let some things go.
We let Foxy's whole
affirmative action verse go.
Let's talk about
what we allowing it.
In Too Deep,
like, Makai Fife was crazy, though.
That was wild. He's got another one. He's got more of we allow in too deep like Makai Fife was crazy though. That was wild. He's got
another one. He's got more of those.
No. Not like that. Not that
drastic. Okay. But Kanye ain't change
a word. Yeah he will.
Yeah I'm impressed by
he does that quite a bit. In too deep
like Makai Fife is crazy though. How do you change
the entire actor? How does Omar Epps
feel about that? I would love for
somebody to ask Omar Epps that question. Nobody in the studio and even even no one, maybe like your mans when you played it for them,
no one was like, dog, that's not in that movie.
Well, first and foremost, Kanye probably didn't have nobody in the studio with him when he was recording that.
I totally disagree.
No, first of all, somebody was in the studio, and somebody did.
The engineer, he probably didn't even know what movie he was talking about.
I think multiple people were in there.
I think they did try to say something to Kanye.
And I think Kanye said, no.
It's doper that way.
It's Makai Fife now.
And I think they just shut up.
Yeah, that sounds like what Kanye was saying.
But Kanye was over there.
No.
Right.
It's what I said it was.
Or pulled up on his phone like, no.
He's not in that movie.
100%.
I see something going on about a Friday remake.
Is that true?
They've been doing that
Are they doing another Friday movie?
They've been doing that
Anytime someone from Friday
Is on TMZ
Or just on the internet
They're like
Oh yeah nah
Cube's writing it right now
They've been doing that
The Friday remake
Been coming out
Since I was 13
They've made movies
Covers and shit
They've done everything
But actually
Nah you know a movie
The Hood was saying
Was gonna come out
And I'm still waiting for it
The second minister society I'm still waiting for it? The second minister society.
I'm still waiting for that.
I mean, what is it going to be?
Why?
Just the old dog in prison?
No, what they were saying was that, you know, the son, he grew up.
No, Papoose did that.
So we didn't need to see it.
I want to see that movie.
Papoose wrote the song.
I want to see that movie.
That would be a dope movie to watch.
No, it would not.
Why not?
Because we're in different times now.
It'd be interesting to see it in this time.
Man, they would laugh,
old dog right off the fucking screen.
When is the last time we got a movie like that, though?
Do you know when we saw those movies,
Boys in the Hood and-
Paid in Full, I think.
Paid in Full was the last one, I think.
This is a classic, like a hood classic.
When's the last time we got a hood classic?
Paid in Full, I think.
Paid in Full, yeah.
I mean, Kill a Season, if you, real If you Real I don't know
If that's a hood classic
Baby Boy is a hood classic
Yeah
They played enough
Baby Boy is a hood classic
You know the last
Baby Boy came after
Payton Full
They're around the same time
Probably around the same time
You know what movie
And I'm not
I'm off of hood classics
I'm not naming a hood classic
But you know what movie
I enjoyed
Like some of those movies
that I just didn't get that feeling in a while?
The Town.
The Town was a very underrated.
Very, very underrated.
The Town gave me some set it off.
Great movie.
It gave me some of that old.
That was hard.
Yeah.
Yeah, the movie was very dope.
You know what I'm watching?
And it's Irish people, so it's even iller.
I'm watching American Greed.
Ever heard of it?
No.
It's when niggas just do stupid shit for money That sounds like something I would watch
It's a series of movies
I've heard of it
It's a series
Series
Really good
Really good
You watching it on TV or on Netflix or some shit?
I bought the season on the iTunes app shit
I buy shows
I'm the only idiot buying shows and music
Nobody's buying shows and music
No
Sorry bro I read an article in Forbes Though show I'm the only idiot buying shows and music nobody's buying shows and music no yes sorry bro
I read an article in Forbes though that echoed everything that I have been saying
about music and the industry's basically swallowing itself what the article was basically
saying was and I could find it in my phone but fuck fuck that. I'm freestyling. The article is basically saying that because the industry,
because there's not going to be enough money for some of the sub-tier artists
to compensate for what they do,
eventually they will drown themselves out and find other fucking career paths.
And I just started laughing.
Why is that funny?
Artist Joe Budden.
It's funny, number one, because they're absolutely right.
True.
They are absolutely correct, and it don't seem like enough people care.
That's kind of interesting because I think—
I'm going to go. Let me find it. I'm going to find it.
No, I disagree with Forbes, and I think I'm much more intelligent than anyone that works at Forbes, of course.
Talk your shit, Rory.
Intelligent than anyone that works at Forbes, of course.
Talk your shit, Rory.
I think that, no, with the internet now, you can go straight to your consumers.
So it's easier, I think, to make money than it was before.
You don't need a huge outlet to actually give people your music and then buy it.
There's regular artists on Apple Music, Spotify, all that shit.
Yeah.
So I think it's possible. I just think maybe the streaming, the way they get paid is tougher because you have to listen to a song a million
times for them to make a dollar.
So I could see in that aspect, but there's ways
to give music to your fans
without Apple Music and
Spotify. I think the internet direct
to consumer makes it easier for indie
artists to have a career. And they can just
go on little show runs and make their money.
So I found it.
I found this article.
I'm going to try to give you the Cliff Note version of it because it's very long, but it's on Forbes' Twitter page if you want to research yourself.
Let's see.
There was once a time when mid-level bands with a modest following could make a pretty
decent living playing music.
Oh, let me burp real quick.
They'd put out a record, sell a couple hundred thousand copies, and then go on tour to promote
it, which would drive additional sales, even as the tour itself was lucky to break even.
For the largest acts, the formula was a bona fide money-making bonanza lining up pockets of all involved, including the musicians, managers, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
Right.
They go on to say, times, however, have changed.
They go on to say times, however, have changed. Besides a handful of superstars, it is impossible for bands and musicians to generate significant revenue taking this approach.
And the reason is simple. Consumers won't pay much for music, period.
I mean, we've been saying that forever. Oh, yeah. in the past 10 years, they haven't. Now, that's why, that's one of the reasons that I am still one of the lone dinosaurs that purchases music and purchases TV shows and just purchases shit.
This goes on to talk about Napster jumpstarting the trend back in the 90s, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
The likes of Pandora and Spotify don't steal content, but they still offer it for free with the support of ads.
Others, such as Apple Music and Amazon Music,
obviously aren't stealing either and do charge users, but it's a nominal fee.
Both models result in most artists getting the shaft,
receiving, in most instances, less than a penny per stream.
This is ridiculous.
That's crazy yeah
I know that it's information
that we already know
right
so when people ask me
why I'm screaming
and why I'm yelling
and why I'm passionate
I'm only
always on
the side
of the artist
I'm always
on the side
of music
let me close this
because in closing
it says
this is long
let's see goes to the end bruce springs
thing uh the reason yeah yeah we don't care about that uh here we go here we go uh some probably
question why anyone should care about all of this after all the consumer is winning since the
principal fallout has been that accessing music content is cheaper than ever before.
Further, large industries have always gone through difficult transformations.
What makes the music industry struggles any more noteworthy?
They close with the reason is that without meaningful changes to the way musicians get compensated, creativity will suffer immeasurably,
and with it, the entire music industry. Consider that the revenue streams created by record sales
and concerts once formed an informal infrastructure that continually bred new artists. Without such
revenue streams in place or something similar to replace them, the time will come when musicians
will have no practical way to stay afloat, forcing them to give up and many would-be
ones never try at all.
It's a great fucking article.
It's a great article.
That's interesting.
It's true.
So now back to-
I don't know if that's direct streaming though.
It's true. Yes, it's streaming.'s direct streaming, though. It's true.
Yes, it's streaming.
Streaming is the industry's new way to bootleg things.
We've been talking about this since the inception of this podcast,
so I'm not going to beat the listeners down with it anymore.
I think it's a great way to get away from illegally downloading.
The streamers and the industry executive label people are in cahoots.
Let me break this down for the people, again,
who have no idea what any of this means.
If Drake can say, here's the kicker
in a verse, I can say cahoots.
I don't care if you're mad about it,
Mo. I don't care.
Whatever, bro. Listen.
If we're all
streaming the music and all the
labels have deals With the streaming services
And artists are contractually
Obligated to the labels
And the dollar or the
Penny changes
Fluctuates monthly with streaming
And how we get paid from it
Why the fuck would I be in a rush
To put another album out?
Why?
Somebody tell me.
To that point, someone from Atlantic, I won't say their name, was on Twitter talking about streaming.
And he had suggested that first week numbers don't matter anymore.
Because streaming is such a slow build for numbers and for income that we're not having the 50% drop off on second week numbers.
Now you're having more of an equal first week and second week with these numbers
because it takes so fucking long.
You have to listen to the song 10 times for it to count.
Listen to this.
Kaiser called me today, and me and Kaiser have been speaking recently.
Kaiser is an executive at Atlantic along with Julie.
I know them both because they both were executives at
Def Jam. And when the industry played musical chairs, that's where they landed over at Atlantic.
So Kaiser and I are pretty cool. He's known me since I was 20 years old. And I'm on the phone
saying to him, nigga, y'all at Atlantic, what the fuck are y'all doing? What's happening over there?
Y'all dropped the ball a lot over there.
Kaiser says, like who?
I said, well, I don't need to get into all the people I said.
But I then said, y'all better not
fuck Uzi up.
And know what he said?
How could we fuck Uzi up? I said, where's an album?
He said, he's doing
50 million streams a week.
Why do I need to put an album out?
And then I was quiet. He's got album out? And then I was quiet.
He's got a point.
And then I was quiet.
I don't know why.
You also would need that, because that single is still growing.
It's huge now, but it's still, still growing the way, you know, how bad.
I like Uzi.
I like Uzi a lot.
Yeah.
No, it's a phenomenal album.
I like him a lot.
I do.
But I wouldn't put the album out yet.
Is the album, all right, so here's the question.
Is the album dead?
No, it's dead.
Is the album dying?
No.
I think for certain artists like Uzi, and this isn't a discredit to his artistry,
but I think artists like that don't need it because they're so single-focused
and they make such great hit records.
But if you look at who's leading the whole charge, you have your Kendricks, your Coles, and your Drakes
who live and die by the album.
Well, maybe not Drake so much because he has so many hit singles,
but the people that are still leading rap still rely on making that album.
Cole and Kendrick are not surviving off hits, and they're still leading rap music.
So, no, I won't say that.
That second tier of the younger kids that are making hits,
of course, they don't need an album. I don't need a Yachty album. Because he makes such great hit
singles and can live off the streams and perform off those hit records. That's the big thing.
They're doing a lot of shows off of these big records. They're doing every show. And where
festivals have now taken over tours. Forbes talked about that too. At a festival, you don't need a whole set.
You're up there for 20 to 30 minutes.
You could just rock through a few singles through there.
You don't need a whole show.
The Forbes article.
And you're making just as much money.
If not more.
Yeah.
The Forbes article, when it spoke about cheapening music, spoke to the festivals and how popular they are.
Not because of the music necessarily, but because of the experience.
Yeah.
It's all about the experience.
Like Coachella, like I was saying,
people just go there just,
they don't know what the fuck is going on.
They just want to have dirty feet and eat pizza.
Yo, Maul hates Coachella so much.
I do.
I'm with him.
I hate it.
Not that I hate Coachella.
I hate all them niggas, dirty feet niggas,
sitting on the grass.
Yeah, like this fake new hippie era is corny. I hate it too. But I hate everything. niggas Dirty feet niggas Sitting on the grass Yeah Like this fake new hippie era
Is corny
I hate it too
But I hate everything
Yeah you do
I do
That's a fact
I hate it
But like
For example
I went to Broccoli City
This past weekend
And it was great
Because I like
21 Savage
I'd like to see him perform
But I'm not going to
A 21 Savage show
But Solange is also
On that bill
I would love to go see
A Solange show Yeah festivals is more of a mix. I would love to go see a Solange show.
Yeah, festivals is more of a mix.
Now I can go see both.
You're getting straight to your hit records.
I don't need to sit for the B-sides.
It's perfect for artists that you're not particularly invested in.
Like Ray Shremid, I don't need to go to a full Ray Shremid show
to hear the B-sides.
I want to hear your five amazing hit records, which I hear at festivals.
Right.
So streaming and festivals kind of going hand in
hand in that aspect i would like i'm not angry at that at all because i'm angry about everything
i would like the flip side of that festival i want to put a festival together i told you and
it's i gotta fire you and i want to i want to i want to put together a festival of all the
duo people i want to do prime we We talked about this. Oh, yeah. Run the Jewels,
Rage in the Machine.
There's some more.
There's more that I'm missing.
Well, first of all,
Run the Jewels is, like, headlining
mad festivals this year.
I was shocked.
I was happy,
but I was shocked.
They headlined last year.
Well, shit,
they're, like,
high up in Made in America.
There was another festival I saw.
Oh, was it Governor's Ball
or some shit?
Whatever. They are made for festivals the same way that Prime They're like high up in Made in America. There was another festival I saw. Oh, was it Governor's Ball or some shit?
Whatever.
They are made for festivals the same way that Prime is made for certain festivals.
The same way A-Rab and myself, if A-Rab was not a complete fucking moron, would be made for festivals.
A-Rab is great live.
But no, Run the Jewels is where Prime wouldn't be.
A-Rab steps in his own fucking way.
I can't say that
because I step in my own way.
Speaking of firing Ian.
Is that what we're speaking of?
I love Ian.
Oh, we got bad segues
from Royal.
Joe and I were talking
on Saturday,
whatever, some shit.
Oh, yeah.
We were talking about
Fetty Wap and 300.
Fetty Wap,
who announced his album,
is being released.
Dope.
Everything is.
Thank you.
Thank you, Maul, for your expert analysis.
I like Fetty.
You like everybody.
I like Fetty.
You protect all your fucking relationships.
I don't have a relationship with Fetty.
You maybe would like one.
No, I like his music.
You definitely had a 1730.
You do not like the last seven Fetty Wap songs.
No, you don't. No, you don't.
No, you don't.
Maybe not all seven.
That's my point.
That doesn't mean I don't like him.
What are you talking about?
You like six Fetty records.
No, more than that.
In 2013.
Nah.
Nah, there's more records than that.
I don't think you can name
more than six Fetty records.
You know what's funny?
I was telling somebody the other day,
I'm bad with naming records. Me too. Well, that's why I said that. It's a trick question. I can't think you can name more than six Fetty records. You know what's funny? I was telling somebody the other day, I'm bad with naming records.
Me too.
But that's why I said that.
It's a trick question.
I can't name any records.
That was a loaded question.
Yeah, I'm terrible with naming records.
Terrible.
If I were Fetty Wap, I would be causing a fucking tantrum at that label.
I'd be calling my lawyer immediately trying to get out of that shit.
Well, we were saying that 300 kind of works more as a management company than it does a label.
And at what point does a manager leave his artist?
That was our question.
Because usually an artist is doing well, but their manager may be fucking up or not giving them what they need.
At what point do you as a manager, with a bunch of more successful acts, then leave someone that you—
A bunch more, man.
A bunch of more.
All right.
Okay.
The grammar police is in the building.
Word.
Of all fucking people.
Roy just turned 27.
He got to have some koof.
That's having koof?
Yeah, a bunch of more.
Koof?
Look at the words we're getting hit with.
How do you spell that?
C-O-F?
Let's just say conversate.
Let's do that.
I love conversate.
I judge everybody that says conversate, even though they recently made it a word.
Sometimes you have to conversate.
Webster made that a word because so many idiots were in the world that they had recently made it a word. Sometimes you have to conversate. Webster made that a word because so many idiots
were in the world
that they had to make it a word.
Yeah.
But it feels like
it should be a word, though.
It always should have been a word,
but it was alarming
that people didn't know
it was not a word.
It's converse is the word.
Well, thank you, Joe.
That's the word.
But converse kind of got
outshined by converse
to sneak yourself.
That's very true.
It was kind of like, yeah.
No, it didn't. It did. It's like you have a bunch of pairs yeah like if you write that in the text look at all my converses yeah they'd be like why is he why does he want to have a converse
with me i don't even wear converse if you were to write that in the text yeah like look at the gauge
like why does he want to have a conference all of this makes perfect sense to mall that's why
this is funny it does does. It does.
I'm on board, Maul.
Well, yeah.
At what point as a manager when you have more acts that are better?
No, you're adding all this extra context to it.
At what point is it all right for a manager to leave the artist?
That is our question for the day.
Oh, please.
What manager is leaving an artist when he feels like the artist is not performing to his capability?
Nobody, nigga.
Nobody.
It happens, though.
When?
A lot of, like, manager agents is kind of the same thing as managers.
Roc Nation will leave a nigga.
That's a big company.
Yeah, agents leave athletes all the time.
Like, leave the athlete, not the whole round.
But agents don't.
Typically, your manager may have came up with you, started before you got your deal.
Like, there's a relationship there.
Not all the time, but a lot of the time.
In this new era, yeah.
So at what point are you looking at someone that you built up and put you on to?
Because he's kind of the reason for a lot of your success now.
At what point do you stomach that and be like, nah, I'm successful without you now.
I got to let you go because you're not doing nothing.
Yeah, answer it, Maul. At the to let you go because you're not doing nothing. Yeah, answer it,
Maul.
At the point where
you feel like you're
successful now,
you can't, yeah.
You can't have a
Converse sneaker
with him no more.
Period.
I want to know
what Maul's passionate
about, I swear to God.
What?
You want to know
what I'm what?
Passionate about?
I want to know
some of the things
you're passionate about.
Passionate about a lot
of things, man.
Liking Instagram pictures
Maul is definitely
The nigga that
Is in the comments
Saying yo your man is lucky
Get the fuck
See now
No hold up
Hold up
See now
You're not gonna
Disrespect me like that
You're not gonna
You're not gonna
Turn me into that guy
Don't do that
You know me better than that
Wait niggas
Her man ain't lucky
You know me better than that
I'm asking you if a man is lucky
Man get the fuck out of here
So a man is not lucky
Never in my life will I ever say
No corny shit like that
You lie
No you lie
If you think that's me
You lie
You fucking lie
Fuck out of here
YouTube viewership
Fuck out of here
Alright I understand
Your position
But
It's a man not lucky
Get the Why are you asking me I'm asking a valid question I don't even know What you talking about I understand your position, but it's a man not lucky.
Get the, why are you asking me that? I'm asking a valid question.
I don't even know what you're talking about.
Maybe he goes the hater route and say your man don't know what you got.
I want to.
What?
Y'all got more fucked up.
I definitely told him, Chick.
What?
Your man don't know what he got.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
That's crazy that you try to turn me into one of those guys.
That's cool, though.
That's cool.
It's mad of those guys out there.
I'm not one of them.
Let's be clear.
How do we know?
You've never seen, because you see every picture I like, because you text me about it like,
bro, you got to relax.
As soon as I press like, here comes the text.
Bro, you got to relax.
Or I got like push notifications for you on this one.
You got to relax.
But I'm not.
So you would see comments. You're waiting for a comment. I know that's what you're waiting relax But I'm not So you would see comments
You're waiting for a comment
I know that's what you're waiting on
I'm not in the comments though
No but you'll see if I comment
On somebody's picture
You're waiting for it
So you can be like
Maul
Maul
You gotta relax
If you ever say
Your man don't know what he got
Get the fuck out of here
I don't know what she got
What the fuck you talking about
I don't know this chick
I don't know these girls What the fuck you talking about That's when you say it though Nah fuck out of here I can't know what she got. What the fuck you talking about? I don't know this chick. I don't know these girls.
What the fuck you talking about?
That's when you say it, though.
Nah, fuck out of here.
I can't play that game.
Well, let's see here.
Uber Freight.
Shut up, Uber.
Uber always doing some damn shit.
Let's see here.
What we got?
No, Jews, no.
Trump wilding again.
Firing the head of the FBI.
Getting niggas out of here.
They're going gonna impeach him
And then have to figure out
How to impeach
The next ten of them
Exactly
Exactly
That's what's gonna happen
Up there
I know other countries
Other countries look back
Look at us and just
Fucking laugh man
I'm not talking about
This Miley Cyrus shit
I'm not doing that
But Division put a new song out
Yeah
Yeah he did
The first
When I first heard it
I didn't really like it
I listened to it a few more times I warmed up to a little bit but it's not what I
needed from someone that I think is that great and they just came off of I just
want to tell the podcast listeners Rory is the king of warming up to a song yeah
cuz you hate that terminology why you I don't yeah you say but you contradict
yourself all the time I can't listen to it when everyone's hype around it.
And then it's like, oh, I can't let it build.
Rory, my favorite thing to do is to contradict myself.
I don't understand why people are so confused by me.
I don't either.
Nobody should even take me serious.
Yes.
I've been saying that for years, too.
I've been saying that, too.
Bye! Y'all niggas worship him that's what i'll be trying to tell joe's fans that's what i was telling that's what I was telling your fans about the whole Drake shit.
No fucking lie.
Nobody wants to tell the truth.
I didn't even tell the truth yet.
That's the crazy shit.
All right.
I feel like some important shit happened before I get to sports.
Flex and Tupac.
No, it's not important.
Is Flex and Tupac not important? We have discussed Flex and Tupac. No, it's not important. Is Flex and Tupac not important?
We have discussed
Flex and Tupac
since 97.
Well,
Pac is still out here lying.
I just don't get it, man.
I just don't get it.
I don't know.
Well, T.I.
T.I. had words.
Tretch had words.
People had words
for Flex.
I'm sure Flex knew
that words were coming. I get it. I'm sure Flex knew That words were coming
I get it
I understand what Flex is
I get it
But I think there's a
Time and a place
And the internet is not
That time and place
Past
No not only that
Even if he still feels
Some type of way today
Come on
You on live
That's just not
That's not it
For me
Like Flex is from
Another
You know he's from Yeah I'm So it's like You're not supposed to be doing this He's so digital that's just not, that's not it for me. Like Flex is from another, you know,
he's from,
so it's like,
you're not supposed to be doing this.
He's so digital.
You have to remember he's the digital god.
I understand.
I get what Flex is saying,
but it's just the way he's doing it.
It's just coming across a little like,
all right,
Flex,
like,
you know what I mean?
Well,
Flex is always great at getting attention.
I think the first time he did it,
he got so much attention that he just was like,
fuck it.
I got to continue to do this. Cause that's what Flex has been doing forever. Do you think this is happening think the first time he did it, he got so much attention that he just was like, fuck it, I gotta continue to do this.
Because that's what Flex
has been doing forever.
Do you think this is happening
because the Tupac movie
is coming around?
Like this is,
you know what I mean?
Nah,
it was interesting.
There was some guy on Twitter
with like a white avi.
Oh yeah.
Who was doing all this
great,
amazing New York history.
Pac included in it
because Pac has so much
New York history.
And I feel like I can't prove it,
but I think that sparked Flex
because I was all over Twitter
then all of a sudden Flex
was talking about the exact same shit.
Yeah, I think it did too.
So that's where I think,
I don't think it came from the movie,
though the trailers on that movie look phenomenal.
Yeah.
That movie looks like it's going to be
really, really, really good.
Yeah.
It does.
And I'm done with the biopics, but...
Biopic. Every time I think I learn how to say that word... No, I the biopics, but... Biopic.
Every time I think I learn how to say that word...
No, I don't know. I call it biopic. People say
I'm wrong. But then I've said...
Let's have a converse about it.
Your mall's so mad the Wizards is going
home. Your mall is so
tight about that.
No, for real. Why am I tight about that? I don't know.
I watch your InstaLive games just to see the... so tight about that. There you go. No, for real. Why am I tight about that? I don't know. You didn't use me.
I watch your Insta Live games
just to see the,
I mean,
your Insta Live
just to see the game.
Well, you Insta Live the game?
No.
Yes, he's that guy.
Joe is full of shit.
You know,
I can't do nothing.
Listen,
I figured Joe out.
I can't do nothing
on social media
without Joe finding a way
to make a joke out of it.
I can take a picture
of us right now.
Because why are you
taking a picture of us,
my nigga?
See, there we go.
See, there we go.
No, for real.
There we go.
Why is Maul taking a picture
of the hot dog
and the referee?
Don't be Peck,
my nigga.
Come on, here we go.
He had his Jordans
on the hardwood?
No.
Yeah.
Tell him I'm close enough
to ref the game.
Whatever he said.
Yo, this nigga,
yo,
yo, listen, don't be trying to make me sound like the corniest nigga on the planet. Why are you, Whatever he said Yo this nigga Yo Yo listen
Don't be trying to make me sound
Like the corniest nigga
On the planet
Why are you
Why is this your
Why is this the mission
Only because
Why is this the mission though
Two reasons
Okay go ahead
And that is the mission
Okay
Two reasons
Okay go ahead
One
You're too cool for school
Okay
You're too cool for school
Like that era's over my nigga
This cool bullshit
Okay what's number two
Number
Number two Number two is number one No no Okay, what's number two? Number two.
Number two is number one?
No, no, no.
It isn't number two.
One is you're too cool.
Oh, and two is you have too many funny Joe stories.
Oh, so you trying to-
It's spite.
It's spite.
Okay.
I need-
Okay.
Got you.
Shit, if he had all those funny stories, I would stay at bay.
Yo, can we have like a bonfire night at your crib and just fight like a bunch,
like maybe like 20 people and just sit around and just tell stories all night?
Oh, that was going to happen at the pool party, I thought.
Yeah, but the pool party, it might be too much going on for that.
Well, no, that would be the after hours to kick everyone else out.
I got some fancy shit happening.
Like I got some fancy shit I think I spoke to the chef about for after hours.
That's kind of hard.
I'm bodying this shit on low.
Niggas don't want to keep my props.
I'm kind of moving out here.
I'm bodying this shit.
As the chief.
As the chief.
As the chief.
If I see this motherfucker walking around in some Kansas City shit, I'm going to lose my mind.
Yo, I've been a hater for a long time.
A long time this guy's been a fucking hater.
I did everything he said on the podcast.
You're the hater now.
I've hated on you?
Yes.
Okay.
Fuck.
This shit is full of shit.
All right, let me let him have that.
Show me mad easy to hate on.
Is there anything I am mad easy to hate on?
Oh, my God.
Oh, yeah.
Did you guys see Charles Barkley saving race relations in the world now?
On A&E or some shit?
I didn't see all of it.
I saw a clip.
Charles Barkley, I never want to hear him talk about anything race.
I don't know if I want to hear him talk.
He's done.
No, I want to hear him talk because I love honest people.
I love people that don't shy away from their opinion.
Even if I disagree, I want to hear those people speak.
Charles Barkley has shown his ass
too many times when it comes to race related issues he is he is he said some wild things
he's let all of us know that he's not really he don't really fuck with us yeah he's not in tune
with with our you know what what we feel and and why we feel it he's charles jules
he's what charles jules? Come on, man.
Come on, bro.
Don't do that.
I'm sorry.
Don't do that.
Pardon me.
Don't do that.
Jules, call me.
We can talk about this.
We can market the vibes.
Just look at your likes.
You'll find more.
Who gives a fuck what John Rue thinks at a time like this?
This is ridiculous.
Jules.
I don't want to dance.
I'm scared to death.
Did you just say?
Listen, Jules. Let's just have a conversation. I'm scared to death. Did you just say...
Listen, Jules, let's just have a conversation.
Sometimes Rory is funny.
Maul, stop liking pictures.
How you like audio likes.
Jules, hit me.
Charles Jules.
Come on, man.
Come on.
Stop.
Stop, guys.
I got to stop because Sim went to fade With Jules for real
And I'm on Sin City
I'm always on Sin City
And Sim want to fight
Me and Jules
You and Jules
That's my baby Wildin
Charles Jules is funny
Alright I don't want to hear
About race relationship
From Charles Brockley
I'm sorry
I want to hear about
Cleveland
I want to hear about
Defend the land
Defend the land More Defend the Land.
More mad the land is getting defended, but whatever.
All right.
I was going somewhere.
I was going somewhere.
I don't remember where I was going.
Y'all listen to Meek's new record?
I didn't hear it yet.
It's really, really, really good.
That nigga going.
Yeah?
Yeah.
No, it's really good.
You know Meek a rap.
I don't care about that.
But this feel like the old.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm excited.
Honestly, not just people saying that.
Can I ask a question?
I'm not trying to be funny.
Did he mention a Rolex?
I didn't hear it.
Watches, but not specifically a Rolex.
I didn't hear it.
But he will.
No, it's not like a I'm the boss record.
It's like a heartfelt record.
He's going.
I like me.
He is going.
That breakup
is the greatest thing
that ever happened to him.
This shit is called what?
Leaving Hollywood or some shit?
Left Hollywood.
It seems like his space
is like I'm done with that shit
that I just
fucked my life up.
And that video
that he's teasing
that they put out
that looked like
it could be a series
about that scammer shit.
Yeah.
That's great.
Oh, the Lydia again video? again video lydia yeah it was a
good video that's hard they should have continued that we need meek i keep saying it yeah he's we
need him he's important to this he's very important especially not only to the culture but especially
to east coast culture yeah yes while all the east coast niggas are sounding like yeah out of town
is one of the east coast niggas that sound like an East Coast nigga.
That the kids still fuck with and will accept that sound from.
He's the lone person keeping a certain sound alive.
Yeah, I agree.
And he's like Beans in the sense that he's not rappity, rappity, rappity, rap Philly.
Like he could do both sides and still sound like he from Philly, but not in like a freeway sense.
No, I love free, but that's the essence of Philly rap.
Yeah.
Meek is,
can play both sides,
which is why he's been so successful.
Shout out to Meek,
man.
I gotta listen to the record.
It's hard.
I listen to it when I leave.
It is.
It is hard.
Uh,
what else?
Fuck if I know.
How's,
uh,
how's post Wale,
uh,
everyday struggle life been?
Uh, I wish I would've conducted that interview. Honestly. Oh, How's post-Wale everyday struggle life been?
I wish I would have conducted that interview, honestly.
Oh, you was getting interrupted.
It was great to see you just shut the fuck up for a second.
I mean, I went up there with the plan to shut the fuck up,
but Ack is long-winded and talks in circles.
He does.
If you don't put a leash on it,
he's just going to say the same thing a million different ways,
and Wale already had Ae to grind with him.
It's interesting to see people, not even just with Wale and Axe,
just to see people watch the same thing and perceive things so much different.
Yes.
Like, I understood what Wale was saying, and I was reading other people that were, like,
got the complete opposite of what he was trying to say.
Well, people always do that.
But this was, like, weird.
I don't know.
Maybe just because when I saw Wale, of course, Wale was being Wale,
so it's hard to sometimes grasp what he's trying to say.
That's kind of been his Achilles heel in his entire career.
But I think he was just saying, not in particular,
but who he represents and those type of people, you don't have a leg to stand on to call me corny.
Call me what you want to call me.
Corny is the last thing you can call me because I lived a life that you watch on a screen.
And I think that's what was upsetting to him.
Like of all people, you could say my music sucks.
You could say anything you want about me.
But the last thing you of all people and everyone that's in your little comments can call me is corny.
I don't understand how people feel like Wale is corny.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
I really don't understand how people think Wale is corny.
They think that because he has reacted too much.
Is that what makes you corny?
No.
You can have corny reactions, but I don't think his reactions have been corny per se.
I think they've been misguided.
Anytime your reactions are perceived to be emotion-based, i.e. Meek when he was wildin' and niggas was clowning him,
not because he was wrong in his sentiment, but because it seemed emotion-based,
Wale has replied to a lot
especially during that we don't fuck with you musically period he replied emotionally to a lot
of things much like myself i didn't reply so emotionally so much but it comes off that way
and once it comes off that's that way that's all that matters now your music and you you're all
perceived a certain way yeah but but corny i don't understand how that could be taken that's that's what i think
the whole argument was about everyone was like why is wale upset about like nah you can't come
at me with a fucking egg avi from your mom's basement and call me corny but that but yes you
can that's hip-hop today yeah you can but it's like you know he's correct if we're old and and
we're playing by a different
code of ethics
no of course
you can do it
that's why I love Meek
because the internet
has given these people
a voice
that's why I think
Meek is so necessary
because Meek is one
of the only new niggas
that I feel is still
playing by old codes
and it comes off that way
we need that
we need somebody
playing by old rules
and old codes
I just don't get how.
I'm sitting here trying to think of something corny I've seen while they do.
I'm really trying to think about it. Yeah, but, Mo, you grew up outside around a certain type of crowd.
You didn't grow up in your mom's basement hooked up to the Internet.
So what you perceive is right and wrong, they don't.
Yeah, the things that you perceive to be corny,
you're going to be the coolest thing in the room
in any room you walk in.
The things that you think are corny
and the things that corny people think are corny.
Like academics said himself,
hey, I'm corny.
I'm corny.
But a lot of us are saying you're corny too.
I understand Wale when he says,
and I understand people when academics,
this is a lot of people's first time seeing him.
So when you see someone who has such a strong command on the youth and how to sway their opinion, and this is the person, you feel the way.
I totally understood Wale.
I get why he felt, why Wale felt some way.
I'm just still trying to find out why people feel like.
I think it's just the coolest thing to say Wale is corny. I think that people just made it cool to say Wale felt something. I'm just still trying to find out why people feel like, I think it's just the
coolest thing to say
Wale is corny.
I think that people just
made it cool to say Wale
is corny.
It was cool to say that
at a certain point.
Let me put it like this.
If you don't know any
better,
and you compare Wale and
Meek,
if you value the things
that Meek exhibits,
wouldn't you think Wale
is corny?
No. No? If you didn't know any better, yes you would. Oh, if you didn't know any Meek exhibits Wouldn't you think Wale is corny? No
No
If you didn't know any better
Yes you would
Oh if you didn't know any better
I started with
If you don't know any better
Yeah
If you're not from the streets
If you never left the creek
You lived your mind
I'm just saying
Your perception of things
Is coming from
YouTube or the internet
And I'm not saying that
About academics
I'm just saying period
Yeah
Then
When you see Meek He looks really cool The motorbikes look cool. The jewelry looks cool.
He's always with people that look cool. He had the girl. It looked cool. He beefed with Drake,
the biggest rapper. He lost, but it looked cool. Wale doesn't have that same luxury.
He doesn't get that aesthetic that the rest of MMG is afforded. The rest of MMG, they talk that fly shit. It looks
like that fly shit. They rap that
fly shit. Wale, not so much.
And I feel like when the radio
single kind of died,
Wale died with it.
Wale thrived when radio
was prevalent and when radio dictated
hits and all of that shit. Since
then, when the internet
and streaming and all that shit has been dominant,
now you have to deal with the effects that you have made
over here, and it's been
quite a bit. It's a lot to deal with.
I mean, Wally had Seinfeld on his album.
Yeah, that's nuts.
No, no, no, no, that's put in perspective.
That's amazing. And Seinfeld's amazing,
and you can't beat that.
However, perspective
when it's done in damage control.
Because that's what happened.
He had a big blow up.
He cursed out a big publication.
You heard me on All Love Lost saying you need pitchfork, you need complex, you need noisy, you need these people.
If you don't have these people in pocket, like I said that.
He pissed them off.
Now you need to do something.
Now you need to do,
you need to come back
with a bang
because you left
a lasting effect
on your last mistake.
But I'll say
even with the second tier
of the Drake vs. Meek thing
and why the internet
killed Meek
because I think
the internet
looks at Drake
as more relatable to them
and what
living in their house and not really going outside much. Drake Drake As more relatable to them And what Living in their house
And not really going outside much
Drake is
Much more relatable
In what he raps about
And what he looks like
So it was easy
To kill the street dude
Because they didn't understand him
Are we gonna talk about
Rosie at all?
Who?
Who's Rosie?
Oh
French
French Rosie
Yeah
Allegedly
Pregnant with Drake's
Kid
Yeah Oh Listen man This is like the third time I think Drake is being accused French Rosie? Yeah. Allegedly pregnant with Drake's kid?
Yeah.
Oh, the chin. This is like the third time I think Drake is being accused of having somebody pregnant.
Eh, a little different now.
Is it?
Why is it different?
The framing is different.
This is the first time that we have heard OVO respond this way.
We've never heard the other bitches, the other women.
Sorry, baby. The other women, sorry baby,
the other women,
we could just assume
they were lying.
We've never heard
OVO say
we don't believe
this is his child.
If it is his child,
we have every intention
on doing the right thing
by the child.
We've never heard that.
The framing tells me
that there's concern.
They might be
taking it serious. There's concern. me that there's concern they might be taking it serious that
there's concern is it at least there is concern now this is where it gets a little tricky for me
i think drake is bulletproof i do i don't really think anything can hurt him i was gonna say i
don't want this chick to be pregnant because i don't mind this drake has beat everything i kind
of want him to keep going I don't want to see him
Lose at this point
A Drake baby mama album
My nigga might be
The best album in the world
If he has baby mama drama
Are you kidding me
I'm buying that album
Yeah but
More life than I wanted
I want that album
Here's the thing though
Like the way Hov
Is like perfect
To the world now
Y'all just rushed over
My great joke More life than I wanted Yeah it now. Y'all just rushed over my great joke.
More life than I wanted.
Yeah, it was good.
Y'all hate it.
Look at Moe want to snuff me out.
You'll get a laugh.
Moe and Pardee texting each other.
All right, I'm off, Moe.
I'm just trying not to laugh at this corny nigga.
That was corny?
Lyin' say that was corny.
More life than I wanted.
More life than I wanted.
But anyway, go ahead.
That was funny.
No, the way Hov is perceived as perfect in the world now, I'd like for hip
hop for Drake to eventually get that and get the amazing wife and family.
I'd like hip hop to have more of that.
So I don't want him to have a crazy IG baby mother.
Drake won't be having a wife in this woman.
No, I know.
I'm saying.
He's not going to do the right thing.
No, he'll have a baby,
an IG baby mother.
I don't want Drake to have that for the sake
of hip hop
and how it's perceived.
So we're not going to see
a red carpet in Calabasas?
I don't think so.
I hope not, man.
I pray.
I just pray for Drake
right now.
I hope that's true.
Well, we got to pray.
We got to pray for Drake.
He looks dressed
in that fucking picture
that surfaced with them.
With them too.
But we don't care about that.
Wait, there was a picture of the two of them? Yeah.
That surfaced right after Lil J Lo break up, but we don't
care about any of that.
What I will say is that the allegations
of the text, have you read the text
that, and Drake's, LVO is saying
we can't confirm the
authenticity of these texts. See, we
never heard that framing. Well, who
from LVO said that? Whoever
said it. You think they're gonna confirm that the fucking Drake is texting his chick, Rosie?
Right.
It's just hard.
Rosie got ass, too.
You know he beat.
Rosie got ass.
I just, man.
I mean.
He was looking at her in the face.
That's why he get props.
My thing is, when you're Drake, it's like.
I wasn't going to say anything, but.
He was looking at Rosie in the face.
You know Rosie face strong.
Rosie Leno.
And that's, come on, it's Rosie, but Rosie face strong.
Yeah, Rose, damn, Rosie.
We took all of the Rosie pictures at the pool party when she was laying on her stomach.
Damn, Rosie.
I'm telling you what we did.
I just pray for Drake, man.
I hope he makes it out of this one.
But the bad part about this, and I'm going to get off the Drake shit because I love Drake
and I don't want people to think that I hate Drake.
I love Drake.
I think they think that already.
I don't give a fuck what they think.
I just said it.
I know.
I love Drake.
I drink myself.
But the text part, like if she text him with some sentimental shit,
and then it was like, Ma, you got to kill that.
Come on, man.
Ma, you got to kill that?
Well, of course not in those words.
Right.
But, you know, wait.
This nigga.
What did you say?
So is she on this now?
Get off my phone.
Stop texting me.
But if it's his, that's my point.
If it's his, that text is going to look crazy.
No, but you got to get on the phone.
Like, if you had that stature, you can't have any screenshots.
I would only see Drake entertaining this conversation with her.
Oh, she could record the call, too.
I mean, obviously, you know, he knows her.
I'm willing to bet that they had sexual intercourse.
So he has to naturally.
Allegedly.
Well, allegedly.
So in that case, he would have to entertain her.
Take her to the house.
Yeah, he would have to entertain it, man.
But it's just like, shit.
You got to talk to.
Listen, if you come inside people, you have to talk to them.
Now you got to talk to them.
What if he didn't?
That's debatable.
Oh, Jesus Christ
Have some koof
What is the word koof?
Clearly no koof
What is the word?
Have a coop
No
Have a koofy
Have a koof
You guys are real mature
Oh okay
You guys are great
Let's pray for Joe
More life than I wanted
It was a great joke
Y'all slept on it
It was
Joe gonna throw that one
at the wall
four more times
yeah
he gonna go home
and tell it to Sin
cause she didn't heard it yet
he gonna text the group chat
more life than I wanted
that's not funny
no I can't talk to Sin
about Drake anymore
cause anytime I say
Drake on the podcast
every day
he's like
baby you guys
you gotta stop
she's like my
fucking police officer
we can't talk about Drake
why not we talked about Drake? Why not?
We talked about Drake a lot on this podcast.
We have.
It's Drake.
He's the biggest artist in the world.
Yeah, you got to talk about Drake.
How you not talk about Drake?
Well, that's what I say when everyone says Drake. That's why I think Drake is crazy for fucking coming at me for talking about Drake.
See, I got you.
I got you.
You are a rapper.
I got you, Maul.
I got you.
I got you.
You don't got me.
You don't got me.
First and foremost, you don't got me.
I got you.
No, you don't. I didn't get him? No. I told you. You don't got me. You don't got me. First and foremost, you don't got me. I got you. No, you don't.
I didn't get him?
No.
I told you what it was.
It was, no, the chief doesn't got me.
The chief.
I told you what it was.
It's the way you said it.
You were yelling.
You had a tank top on.
I always yell, man.
Yeah, but it's just, you know, that's how it comes across.
It comes across like you're angry because you're sweating and your tank top looks like
two pit bulls Was hanging from the collar
I'd never buy new tank tops
Never
Never ever
You have the worst tank top game
In the world
100%
That's crazy
You know what this show
Doing an everyday
Drugger show has taught me
What
I don't have any clothes
Yeah well you gotta get
Fresh every day
Damn yo dog
The funny shit is
When watching that shit
And say alright
How's Joe gonna put himself
Together today
Yo that's why That's why when we Talked about it We commended Fab Like dog this nigga Yo, dawg. The funny shit is when watching that shit and say, all right, how's Joe going to put himself together today?
Yo, that's why when we talked about it, we commended Fab.
Like, dawg, this nigga be fresh all the time.
Hey, but let me, hold on.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Because even Fab, for the first time, wait a minute.
This is a story that will go down in the love and hip hop history. I'm telling you.
What is the name?
Food Town?
No, but what I'm saying is I told y'all,
Fab may have done one or two tours in his career,
but he ain't never been the tour nigga.
It's very hard to stay fresh on tour.
Some of them last Fab pictures is a merch shirt,
some sweats, and some kicks.
On stage?
Yeah, baby.
That's even harder.
Yes.
Without the internet, you could wear the same shit on tour for the whole tour. On stage. Yeah, baby. Now it's even harder. Yes. Without the internet, you could wear the same shit
on tour for the whole tour
and no one would know.
On stage.
Now it's Fab.
So Fab's merch shirt
is beautiful.
I'm sure it is.
The sweats are beautiful
and the sneakers
are beautiful.
Oh, he's just trying
to sell some shit.
bumming it for Fab
looks better than
some niggas get it right.
But I looked at it
and I said,
yeah,
I wish I could've
hit a Don DeMarco
when I seen that
Instagram fucking picture and Fab was dressed in sweats.
Well, I commend you because, like, we're first taking shit, they can wear suits.
And wearing different combinations of suits is, I think, easier than trying to put together a different outfit.
100%.
I don't have any clothes.
I don't have any clothes.
Y'all know I ain't the nigga that wanted to be seen somewhere every day.
I done ran out.
Listen, when I get the bag, I'm going to start wearing some crazy shit.
Yo, where's the bag at?
Some off-white shit?
No, not off-white.
We didn't get any bags.
Yeah, we're bagless.
We are bagless.
We ain't seen a bag.
Yeah, we're trying to grocery shop in California.
But that's exactly why we're going to get the bag.
The bag is coming.
They're going to know when the bag is coming.
For the listeners, we've passed on some bags.
It's not like we don't have offers.
Listeners, this is strategic bag passing.
But I want to sell when the value is high.
I don't want to miss any opportunities.
I don't want this podcast to fizzle out in a year.
No bag goes unturned.
The bag is gone.
The bag ain't going nowhere.
Believe that.
We're going to go get that motherfucker.
Oh, man. All right, great. Anything we're going to go get that motherfucker. Oh, man.
All right, great.
Anything we're missing?
I don't know.
Pat, where we at?
No, it's some more shit that happened.
I don't want to ask Pat.
Pat, don't tell me shit.
Every time we ask you, you say we've been rocking for 40 minutes,
and then I feel like we ain't accomplished nothing.
Fuck out of here.
What else did I talk about?
Did y'all see the Spirit Airline fight in Fort Lauderdale?
I'm so sick of them.
Yeah, I did.
You're sick of Spirit?
I'm sick of all the fucking airlines.
If I was flying Spirit, I'd have my guard up too.
I want to build a plane.
I don't feel like God has allotted me enough time to do everything that my brain wants to do.
Where is building a plane on your list?
You want to build a plane.
Where does that fall?
Of course I don't wanna build a plane
I can't build shit
But I know I said that
Shut up
What is that noise
I hear shit too
Yeah
Is that dog barking
Like other voices
Yeah
Yo do y'all have to
Fucking talk back on
Nah
It's not on
It's just louder now
I don't know
Was that recording
All through our shit
Nah nah nah Alright Leave that Whatever Continue It's just louder now. I don't know. Was that recording all through our shit?
No, no, no, no.
All right.
Leave that.
Whatever.
Continue.
Yeah, fuck it.
It's on the fly.
Everything goes.
Everything goes, man.
The real raw podcast.
There was some awards.
There was some awards happening.
The MTV something happened that nobody cared about.
Nobody talked about it.
The MTV Movie Awards.
Nobody cared.
Was it even televised?
Did anyone perform?
I don't know. I don't even watch TV. Where's Claudette Ortiz?
She's still bad.
Where is she? In Jersey. Still getting trained by them fucking two nigga shoes.
Yo.
There goes the bag.
Yo, more likes
all of the celebrities
that look similar.
Claudette Ortiz.
She is beautiful and still beautiful.
Cassie.
Do they look alike?
They're in the same family.
No, they're not.
They're not in the same family.
They're both bad.
That's the same family.
Bad as a family, yeah.
That's a family.
Who else like records?
You know what I mean?
Who y'all trying to sign?
Who's on the like records roster? Who y'all trying to sign is funny. Who y I like trying to sign trying to sign is funny trying to
sign we know we want to highlight Kerry Hilton people's carry O's is fine oh my
god carry O's and still fine Jesus I just want Claude it's want to take
Claudette out for some French toast or something. Claudette fucked two City Eye niggas. I'm sorry.
I ain't done.
I don't care.
No.
Yes, you do.
Yes, you do.
No, I don't.
You're from the cloth of a certain niggas you just can't fuck behind.
I don't care.
You a fucking mutt.
City Eye, I don't care about them.
You was in City Eye.
Joe got a lot of jokes, boy.
Moe.
Yo, what if Moe was in City High and Sister Act?
That would be the greatest shit
In the world
That's an interesting topic
What can't you fuck behind?
I know that sounded odd
But Joe said it first
So you can't pause me
Oh, no, I'm a believer
I'm a believer
Some of you niggas
Hey, wait, I'm in love
Come on, man
Jesus Christ
I'm in love
Now, now that that's to the side
Can my baby listen to the podcast? Hey, love Now that that's to the side Cause my baby
Listen to the podcast
Now with that to the side
I'm 100%
Not fucking behind
Some of these
Loser niggas
And you
And you feel the same way
No I do
There's a lot of dudes
Rory's in a committed relationship
We gonna talk about him
Yeah
Once I find out
Women slept with certain guys
Yeah that's like
And there's a difference there Between caring about her past In a weird way You gonna fuck Brian Reilly Yeah. Once I find out women slept with certain guys, yeah, that's like a...
And there's a difference there between caring about her past in a weird way.
You gonna fuck Brian Reilly?
No.
Of course not.
Of course not.
Of course not.
Of course not.
Of course not.
I can name a million niggas that niggas would not fuck Brian if we knew.
Listeners.
Of course, we're men, so we never know.
We never know.
Because I'm not going to ask.
Yeah, I'm not.
But you can find out.
Rory might ask. Here we go. We're just. But you can find out. Rory might ask.
Here we go.
We're just going to put shit on everyone.
Rory might ask.
Now, how he opens up the ask might be creative.
I have never asked a woman about her past.
What?
Even once I've been in committed relationships.
I mean, like, in that type of relationship.
I'm not rolling.
No.
Like, what's your body count type shit?
Oh, no, no, no.
That's what I'm talking about.
Not how many, but you definitely inquired about a guy.
Like, yo, you slept with him?
I don't think I have I really don't think I have
In a tricky kind of way
Maybe not blatantly like that
Roy definitely has
Look at this
But you definitely picked up
Your phone in your eyes
You're like look at this nigga right here
Are you following him?
Maybe I found out
Okay
Maybe I found out
I didn't ask
I found out though
Alright how did you confirm? Cause that be our beef with women Okay. Maybe I found out. Niggas are funny. I didn't ask. I found out, though. All right.
How did you confirm?
Because that'd be our beef with women.
Women say that they find out.
But how do they confirm?
They just be guessing shit.
So if men are finding out.
It's my men intuition.
I know.
That's what women say.
I know that's what women say.
Men have institution?
Yes.
When we converse about it.
And mine works.
Yours works.
Joe's a nigga that'd be like, yo, it's dark outside all day until it actually gets dark and think he right.
That's you.
Yo, it's dark outside.
Joe, no, it's not.
Yo, my nigga, it's dark outside.
10 o'clock.
It's dark outside, Joe.
I told you.
I told you.
More than 100% cannot speak at my funeral.
Why?
Honestly.
Why?
Honestly.
Seriously.
You can't.
All right, man. My mom has strict instructions
Sorry mom
She's gonna get sad
Anytime I start talking
About a funeral
Cause I made only human
Anyway
Who's in your bad
In your bad group though
Don't just get off that
Sin
Rory
Wait
Oh you said
Oh for women
I'm not sure
What you were talking about
If we were still talking
About the list of
Shit you can't fuck
No who's your bad
Trey
You're already giving me
20 minutes of hits
My list of hits
Yo
Wait hold on
Trey right
Trey's up there
Yeah
Trey is number one
Trey is definitely number one
Yo 20 minutes of hits
Is wild
You know
I think
I'm speaking for all the fans
I don't even think
That's funny anymore
I just think we should
Get rid of that drop
Yeah
I don't think
Anyone found it funny.
It's going to stay.
No one tweets me about it.
You're right.
So I just think we should just get rid of it.
You're lying.
Worship him.
Why do you worship him?
They worship him.
Is something happening this weekend?
Memorial Day weekend is creeping.
It's creeping.
Henny Palooza, Coney Island.
Tickets on sale now.
Come on.
Come on.
Come on.
Come on.
Come on.
Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. What's happening right now? Special guest. That was the music for Henny Palooza weekendoney Island Tickets on sale now Come on Come on Come on Come on Come on
What's happening right now
That was the music
For Henny Palooza weekend
Oh I thought
Dougie Fresh was booked
Niggas start fucking
Beatboxing
Maul definitely tagged
His name on every train
He's been in
One
I did
I did one time
Wait what's wrong with that
Every train is a lot
No
Not every train
I was scared
If Maul say niggas
Going to the movies
By themselves is weird
And niggas going to dinner By themselves is weird That's weird Tagging your name On every train That you've scared. If mall state niggas going to the movies by themselves is weird and niggas going to dinner
by themselves is weird.
That's weird, man.
Tagging your name on every train that you've been on is weird.
I'm an only child.
I do mad shit.
Going to the movies by yourself.
Listen, if you sitting there on the movies with your girl-
I can't remember the last time I went to the movies with somebody.
Why your parents-
Okay, so you're the guy.
Why your parents didn't want to sleep with each other no more?
When kids are only children, that's what I wonder.
He probably was a fucking terror
and they was like
we're not going through this
your mom's wisened up
I can just be a dick
make him feel bad
cause my mother's diabetic
and couldn't have any more kids
but Gino
oh
record stop
come on Rory
Jesus Christ
now you wanna be that guy
you could've told us off
and that one
nah I wanna make
I wanna make me like a dick
one here
now I wanna adopt a brother for Rory.
At 27.
Adopt a brother for Rory.
Listen, man.
Having a little brother when you're 27 years old is crazy.
Having a little brother for the rollout of your album is the craziest shit I have ever heard.
But I'm shutting up.
I'm not saying a word
I'm happy
Shit we were all in D.C.
But shoot this weekend
Maul was there
I was there
Sin was there
I wasn't coming to D.C.
That was too much
We had fun
Henny Palooza
Sin hosting
There was too much happening
Sin hosted Henny Palooza?
Then I saw
The Star Tenders
Was at Stadium I was like alright Alright enough is enough Yeah D.C. was Everyone relax There was too much happening Sin hosted Henny Clues? Then I saw this The Star Tenders was at stadium
I was like alright
Alright enough is enough
Yeah DC was
Everyone relax
DC was definitely a problem
There was a
I didn't do shit though
IG model
Like battling us
In the section over
But doing
What was more than the most
Battling your how?
Your how
You know what the
Fucking IG models do
She was twerking?
So you know like The little side table that they put hookah on?
Yeah.
She was standing, all six, five of her, on top of the hookah table,
was waving sparklers like she was bringing a plane in.
And we're just looking over there like, I think we should probably go home now.
I think we've ran our course at this club.
What was her point of doing that, though?
Had to battle sin real quick.
Oh, okay.
First of all, don't make me fuck these bitches up.
That's number one.
She might have fucked you up.
Rory, speaking of fucking shit up, enough is enough.
This is always fun.
Enough is enough here.
So I'm looking at the group chat, and there's a Henny Fiesta now.
Enough is enough. I've addressed this. You did? In the group chat and there's a Henny Fiesta now. Enough is enough.
I've addressed this on
You did?
In the group chat?
No, on the
Ball Erler podcast.
I addressed all of this.
Well, address it here.
What the fuck you mean?
It's old news.
The Henny Fiesta shit
happened a month ago.
This party is happening
How is it old news?
You ain't snuffed Drewski.
You ain't snuffed this girl.
You didn't snuff this girl.
Just some girl in the test.
There's a lot of snuffing you got to do.
You got to get to it.
You ain't snuffed nobody.
A nigga that's running around drinking Hennessy.
That's wild.
You got to snuff every nigga that's drinking Hennessy.
Ack is drinking Henny.
Damn.
Andrew Schultz.
So I just got to stand outside liquor stores and just sneak people walking out?
And Chris Dallas has to mainly rock while you do it.
That'd be a dope video.
That'd probably go viral.
Oh my God, viral.
All right,
I think we got everything
until a new story
breaks tomorrow.
Which we know will happen.
Something's coming this weekend.
You want to give us
a sports report, Maul?
Are you sad that
your reign at Washington games
is cut short like leprechauns
because IT ain't playing
with y'all niggas?
Why do you feel like that, though? Boston's going to win that game. They're going to win. They're serious. They're going to win that series. with y'all niggas. Why do you feel like that, though?
Boston's going to win that game.
They're going to win.
They're serious.
They're going to win that series.
Boston's going to win that series.
Why do you feel like that?
Better bench.
Better bench.
I like Washington starting five against anybody starting five over a longer series with a better bench and better coaching.
I love Brad Stevens.
I'm going with Boston.
Okay, well, here's my thing.
Washington has been up by 20 in every single game.
Means nothing. You're right. The first two, been up by 20 in every single game. Means nothing.
You're right.
The first two, they went by 20, and they let Boston come back and beat them.
In the last two games, Washington has handled Boston decisively.
By game six or seven, whatever limit it goes to, John Wall should be gassed.
If he's not gassed, Bradley Beal should be gassed.
John Wall should be gassed.
If he's not gassed, Bradley Beal should be gassed.
If he's not gassed, the twin guy that you said his twin was playing for him,
that was a great theory, by the way. I love that.
Yeah, Marcus Morris definitely.
You got some good theories on the low sometimes.
I do.
I try.
Yeah, I just don't see it.
No, I got Washington in six.
Who – oh, Toronto's out here.
That's finished.
So they get who?
Oh, they get the winner of that.
Yeah.
I don't know what's happening.
Oh, give me Houston Spurs.
What do you think?
Well, I had the Spurs in six before the series started.
I still stand by that.
Rory?
I'm taking Houston.
I had the Spurs in six.
I'm going with the Spurs in six as well.
I've been counting Pop and the Spurs out for the last six years,
and I've been wrong, so.
I'm never counting them out.
Yeah.
Ever.
Well, until next series.
I count them out all the time, and they always win. Next series, I'm counting them out. They're not beating Kevin Durant. One time, I'm going counting them out. Yeah. Ever. Well, until next series. I count them out all the time, and they always win.
Next series, I'm counting them out.
They're not beating Kevin Durant.
One time, I'm going to be right.
Yeah, nobody's beating Golden State.
I told them all I got LeBron and them beating the Warriors in the finals.
I'm a Knicks fan, so I don't think—
Not going to happen.
I don't have a horse in the race, but—
Not going to happen.
The land is getting defended.
Not going to happen.
And I'm the guy that feels like LeBron was gifted his last ring.
So don't think that I'm a LeBron guy even though I am.
He was gifted the last ring?
I think so.
That was a Game 7 series.
Like a conspiracy?
No, it wasn't.
No, it wasn't.
No, it wasn't.
Well, just because Steph played like shit.
I know what he's alluding to.
He's going to say that they were down 3-1 and then all of a sudden shit changed.
Steph played like garbage.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Steph has played like garbage before.
I don't think it's a coincidence.
And again, I'm a conspiracy theorist guy.
But Golden State hadn't lost two games in a row in four years until that series.
So you think every single player that didn't graduate is in on this huge conspiracy?
No, I think that the style of play that Adam Silver permitted game four and on was different and inconsistent with the style of play that the refs permitted from game one through three.
I think there was a reason for that.
And I think that's advantaged LeBron.
Yeah.
Physical game.
Physicality will always.
But I think he always gets that.
His whole career, I thought that.
Well, the hard thing is now I feel like Golden State is prepared for that.
The physicality
I don't think so
Of meeting with Cleveland
I don't think so at all
I think they are
And then the funny shit
About that
Is when they get to the finals
With them two
As great as LeBron is
Now it's the Kyrie show
Yeah
Well I will
I will say this
Let's not skip too far
I will say that
I am interested to see Washington and Cleveland.
I think that's going to be a better series than people are giving credit.
I'm telling you.
More.
I think it will be.
Washington and Cleveland.
More.
I think that's going to be a very interesting series to watch.
They don't match up very much.
Washington might win a half against Cleveland.
Why, though?
They don't have a bench.
Yeah, but you're acting like Washington hasn't beat Cleveland this year.
They handled them very well in Cleveland last time they played.
Playoffs, Mo.
You need a bench.
I understand that, but what I'm saying is I'm just talking about the game.
How old is John Wall?
27, 26.
John Wall got a motor on him, but you're going to be timed.
Not him, but your teammates.
They need a bench. They need a bench.
They need a bench.
I'm not rolling until they get a bench.
And I like Gortat.
I like all them niggas.
I don't know how Nene ended up in Houston.
That was a fucking coup.
He's out, though.
He's hurt.
Yeah, God, for the ball, don't lie.
Fucking trying to cheat.
They put a million niggas over there.
That's all I got for sports.
What about Porzingis tweeting L.A. Clippers with a smiley face?
He was hacked.
He was hacked.
Oh, okay.
That's what he said.
That settles it.
Porzingis got to stop saying he was hacked.
Everybody has to stop saying they were hacked.
Yeah, but Porzingis gets hacked every other week.
Yeah.
Every other week he's hacked.
He proved it with the emojis that he used.
He didn't even use that emoji.
I'm sick of him.
And he said, come on, B.
So you know he's staying.
Wait, so you're over Porzingis?
Yeah, right.
Yeah, right.
I'm just asking. Don't get crazy. yeah right don't get don't get crazy don't get crazy you know my New York issues they're gonna make the new draft pick play the triangle they're gonna make the coach coach the triangle they're
gonna make players that don't want to play the triangle play the triangle and they re-signed
Phil Jackson for an extra two years I will not be looking at the Knicks for another two years
until Phil Jackson is completely out of town.
And I feel the way even talking to you about this because you're a Laker guy.
Like, y'all should have kept that nigga.
Get him the fuck out of here.
I called you and I called Laker fans and bragged when we got him.
I said, boy, y'all should have fucked up now.
Look at God.
He was like, we got the Zen master.
The fucking Zen man.
Master D's.
You might have took up yoga when he first came to New York.
I didn't take up yoga when he first came over here.
I didn't do that.
My bad.
I've been doing yoga.
Johnny does hot yoga.
What a dick.
Hot yoga's actually dope, though.
I wouldn't know.
I'm just talking shit.
I wouldn't know.
I did hear it's dope.
Did you?
From who?
Girls.
Girls.
Girls.
Johnny said it's dope, too, by the way.
We know why Johnny's doing hot yoga, because there's women in there.
Is that why he's doing it?
I think he's the guy in there that really likes it.
Like shushing people, like, hey, I'm trying to take this serious.
Johnny's the guy in there that's battling.
Trying to focus on my downward dog, please.
He's trying to get his summer body ready.
You a fag if you a man trying to get your summer body ready. You're a fag if you're a man trying to get your summer body.
No, I'm a fag.
Bitches are going to be in that pool.
Pool party invite.
Yo, listen, man.
Chicks don't care about that.
If you got money, I ain't got it.
I got a girl.
Chicks don't care about nigga body no more, man.
That shit overlooked, man.
Anytime a nigga say that, his body is super trash.
And Michael Paul going to be running around there with his fucking push-up torso on.
He's going to go put on his fucking detractable peck shirt that he got.
He's going to have an underarmor dry fit on.
Michael Paul is 100% the guy with an underarmor dry fit on.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think I'm going to buy stilts so I can compete with Michael Paul at the pool party this year.
You should because he's fake tall and he wears these fucking platforms.
Michael Paul dressed like Prince at the pool.
Y'all killing me, Pete?
It's hate, too.
I don't care.
Oh, it's all pure hate.
I don't care.
It's all hate.
Fuck Michael Paul.
Anyway, the pool party.
The pool party.
Michael Paul, I told all of my friends to invite women.
That's your strategy?
I mean, no, but listen.
Outside of the women, I'm excited about the things that we have lined up.
I'm excited about life-size twinga.
Twister.
Life-size twister.
Twister. I'm excited about speed dating Twinga. Twister. Life Size Twister. Twister.
I'm excited about Speed Dating.
Which Maul's hosting.
I don't know if we told you that already.
I don't know if Maul knew he was hosting.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We talked about that already.
Maul is hosting Speed Dating.
This is going to be great.
I want models.
Speed Dating with models.
It's going to be amazing.
This is great.
Oh, and it'll all be videotaped.
So the people that won't be there.
We're just attractive women, not even models.
But yeah, we're videotaping all this.
Beer pong.
Bo.
I text Bo, our comedian friend, friend of the show, to perform.
Okay.
I'm hype about that.
Maul, you never saw him perform, but he's really, really funny.
And in that type of setting with a whole bunch of fuck niggas, yes, he's going to be funny.
He's going to be funny.
He's going to be good.
Rory suggested that we play Manhunt after hours.
And that's a rape charge waiting to happen.
What type of people are going to be there?
Me.
What type of man?
I'll be there.
I'll be there.
If you had trouble figuring out why ads weren't on the podcast.
It's time for me to double tap you in real life
Right, exactly
Like Records will be there
In the building
Sponsored by Like Records
Like Records might have to sponsor this
I might get some Like Records t-shirts
If you tired of
Six of the way them shits too
Yeah
If you tired of your dude
Not liking your pictures
Right
Dancing on his own Instagram That's okay Come fuck with Like Records But, yeah. If you tired of your dude, not liking your pictures. Right.
I would have to charge him. Dancing on his own Instagram.
That's okay.
Come fuck with Like Records.
If you plan on selling merch at a pool party, I'm definitely taxing you.
That's cool.
No, I'm not.
I wouldn't sell it.
Just give them away.
He's going to sell likes.
To whoever I like.
Instead of liking the public, I like you.
Do y'all want to hit on LeVar Ball and these sneakers?
Because I'm going to be wearing the big baller whatever joints at the pool party.
LeVar won't even be wearing those.
I got to change my outfit then.
Well, they won't be ready until November, so we can't.
Well, I got the preorder.
I'm not mad at LeVar.
Niggas is killing him.
I'm not mad at him.
Listen, all of this is cool, right?
But.
Here comes NBA, man.
No, listen.
He still has to perform at a high level.
That's true.
For any of this to work.
Now, if he does.
Great.
If he doesn't.
Then we was done with you anyway.
Yeah.
If he don't, we was done with you anyway.
His job is to perform at a high level.
And if he does, all of those people, companies.
He's going to have such.
He has such a huge target on him, though, man.
Yes.
I don't think he's ready for this.
I really don't.
Shouldn't have pissed off LeBron.
Shouldn't have pissed off Steph.
Under Armour. Nike. Listen, I'm going to be real. I don't think he's ready for this. I really don't. Shouldn't have pissed off LeBron. Shouldn't have pissed off Steph, Under Armour, Nike.
Listen, I'm going to be real.
I don't think he's going to be that good.
I'm going to be honest.
I agree.
He hasn't really impressed me like that.
Then you haven't watched UCLA games.
I have.
I did.
No, you have not.
He's not a bad player.
If he has not impressed you, you have not seen enough UCLA games.
He hasn't impressed me more than Malik Monk from Kentucky.
You have not seen enough UCLA games. No, no. He has't impressed me more than Malik Monk from Kentucky. You have not seen enough UCLA games.
No, no.
He has not impressed me more than Malik Monk.
Malik Monk can't shoot nowhere near like Lonzo Ball can.
Oh, my God.
Malik Monk don't look ready to contribute at the next level like I think Lonzo Ball does.
Malik Monk is more of a project to me, probably with a higher ceiling than Lonzo Ball,
if I'm assessing the two of them.
But that nigga Lonzo Ball is ready to ball.
He's ready to go.
He's ready to contribute.
Well, he ain't got no choice now.
He got to be.
He better be ready.
Let me ask you this.
Speaking of point guards, his homeboy, Emmanuel Monday,
and I only know that name because the Knicks were looking at him for a second.
Is that a bus now in Denver?
Is he a bus?
I don't see enough Denver games, but I don't hear his name.
Give him another season.
I wouldn't say he's a bust yet.
What were his averages last season?
I'm not sure, honestly.
Too early to call him a bust, but we're looking at him.
Like God is looking at all of you people over 40.
Only the people over 40.
Really only me.
LeVar Ball is funny I think it's great
That he's starting
His own company
I think that's really dope
But the consumer
For basketball sneakers
Is not the consumer
For Louis Vuitton
And Gucci
That he's comparing
These shoes to
They're athletic sneakers
So I get what he's saying
Like oh y'all paying
This much for that
That's not the consumer
Of a basketball sneaker
Listen I'm just
I'm concerned about
How well they're produced
Because if he tries to go baseline too hard
And make some bullshit
Let me tell you something
That can be bad
I'm not mad at the prices
Nor am I mad at the low-cut basketball sneakers anymore
James Harden has a new sneaker coming out
I saw that, I really like that
That was a low-cut sneaker
I'm not mad at that anymore
The price point is probably at that premium
because LeVar Ball went to Fight Club.
So the price is in there.
Hey, speaking of Fight Club, I still have, yes,
I still have my fucking Eminem Jordans in Fight Club.
I totally forgot about that.
They're waiting for you in Fight Club?
That's what I am.
Have you picked them up?
The Jordans that the label sent to me, I took them to Fight Club.
Oh, you tried to resell them?
What am I going to do with some fucking $20,000 Jordans?
I ain't wearing them.
Nobody else is wearing them either.
They'll be right there.
They still sitting right there.
And they're going to be sitting there.
It ain't 20 grand.
I didn't ask for that ticket.
But they're sitting there.
If they still there by my birthday, I'm going to go get them.
Yeah.
And probably pay more than what you sold for them.
I'm trying to hold out.
I'm trying to hold out until Em put a new album out, which he announced.
I love Em.
Hold up.
My baby called me.
Hey, baby.
Bro.
Come on.
What type of shit is this?
We almost done, too.
They out of steak?
What do they got?
Beef?
Oxtails? Beef? We almost done too. They out of steak? What do they got? Beef? Oxtails?
Beef?
Something?
Paws.
Any type of...
Yeah, oxtails.
Meat.
Paws.
I'm not really a big rib guy.
Pause.
Yo, Maul is so dumb.
Maul is an idiot.
Pat, leave all this.
If you can't get nothing, then I'll take the rib tips or steak tips or whatever that is.
All right.
Pause.
I love you, baby.
Pause. Okay, bye. All right, baby. Pause.
Okay, bye.
All right, we are back.
101.9.
No, we didn't go anywhere.
We were here all this time.
All of us were listening.
I wouldn't know.
You said pause.
I thought it was pause.
Because you was like any type of meat.
Oh, you were saying pause.
Like me.
Yeah.
Get the fuck out of here, man.
Okay.
That's exactly why I'm full of spite when it comes to you.
No, that's why I'm all bad Okay
I'll stop
And then only more spite
Will develop
When you don't respect the chief
Yo listen
That chief shit gotta go
Not till the pool party
I'm definitely the chief
Of the pool party
Sorry
That shit gotta go
With feathers on his head
Call me what you want
I'm the chief
First of all
If you ever think
I'm calling you the chief
You got life twisted If you think That I'm not walking. First of all, if you ever think I'm calling you the chief, you got life twisted.
If you think that I'm not
walking out to Lords
of the Underground
Chief Rock,
doom,
doom,
doom,
doom.
One of the hardest beats
I thought as a teenager,
by the way.
So we've covered
everything.
Sleepers.
You wanted to talk about
your friend Chad Moss.
I don't know what
you want to talk about, but you made it a point that we needed to talk about Bow Wow. Only because Oh, my God. I don't know what you want to talk about,
but you made it a point that we needed to talk about Bow Wow.
Only because they were killing Bow Wow,
and anytime Bow Wow is killed, I feel like I'm being killed too.
Why?
Why?
I just like Bow Wow.
I like Bow Wow, even though Bow Wow said he—
Bow Wow's on that sniper list too, by the way.
Oh, 100%.
Yeah, Bow Wow got a lot—
That sniper list keeps growing. He got a lot. That's my biggest cute growing.
He got a lot of zombies walking around.
And he probably had a couple of y'all queens
sign NDAs before they left the crib,
which is even doper.
See, that's when I know
I will have graduated to the next level.
I was never man enough
to get the chicks to sign an NDA.
Or you just didn't have a lawyer.
Or that.
Hard to have a lawyer
when you're fucking
not making any money off music
as forbes noted in that article but it's a fuck they told me to rush to a slaughterhouse
all right yo joe is a fucking idiot man i'm working on a slaughterhouse biopic
slaughterhouse what? Biopic.
Biopic?
Bionic Man?
Whatever the word is, nigga.
A movie about y'all.
Remember Bionic Six?
Y'all too young.
Was that a cartoon?
You never saw Bionic Six?
Yeah, it was a cartoon.
Bionic, Bionic Six.
You never saw that?
No?
Hit that note again.
Let's get this people's get this sleeper's dog
No I think that was
Your sleeper
I think that was
Your sleeper's dog
Who's gone first
With the sleeper's dog
Biotic
Alright Ma
You tried to go there too
Give me the all score
Give me the all score
Come on play the new
Cause you definitely
Tried to go there
You go there
Give us the new belly
Whatever the fuck you playing
I ain't got no belly
For y'all paws
I had to pause that
you didn't have to
pause that
I did have to
I didn't have any belly
for y'all
what are you pausing
belly for
that's plausible
and Maul has belly
I don't have belly
I don't have belly
alright
I'm gonna play
this Bryson Tiller
joint
one take
is this a single excuse me is it new this is a new Bryson Tiller joint, one take.
Is this a single?
Excuse me?
Is it new?
Is this a single? This is a new Bryson Tiller.
I'm not sure.
Is it out?
Or is this only in your email?
You better check to see if this is out yet.
What do you mean I better check to see if it's out?
You'll get fired from the Bryson Tiller camp.
Okay, hold on.
I live to see Maul get fired from all the camp season.
What are you talking about, man?
How Maul is just cool with people?
Because they're happy and he's happy.
Get the fuck out of here.
Maul's miserable inside.
I can't feel good.
What is going on?
Okay, Vore, you play yours.
I can't find this shit.
Ah, yo, Triggeroo.
No, I'm trying.
I can't find the new Beyonce.
Get the fuck out of here.
What?
Oh, shit.
Our lights are going out.
Chris ready to go home.
Like, y'all really dragging this shit, man.
Hey, Chris, we're contenting.
Y'all want me to go first?
Give me the fucking awks, man.
These niggas add so much suspense to their little fucking pics.
Now I'm going to buy you niggas.
Hold up.
Aretha Franklin. I'm about to buy to you niggas Hold up What are you gonna play?
Aretha Franklin?
I'm about to buy to you niggas Since y'all wanna play around
Uh
Aretha Franklin
Aretha Franklin's hard
Oh now I can't play much
I'ma play Stevie Wonder
What is this?
No need to talk about it
Oh the remix? This the CeeLo shit that he did?
Yeah.
I like that he changed all the content and shit.
Yeah.
Yeah, CeeLo kinda bodied this.
He killed this.
If you think of anyone that could've done it, CeeLo probably would've been in that top three list.
I rushed to press play.
Me too.
When I saw it.
When I just saw the track.
Me too. When I saw it.
When I just saw the track.
What?
What?
He killing this.
I ain't even gonna disrespect the God.
I'm talking. He killing this. I ain't even gonna disrespect a God and talk to him.
What? Wait, say yes, baby.
I'm already hating.
Mmm. In my mouth I wrestle often, baby I'm strong enough to lift you up high Pull up
Pull up only
What?
Tell me
This nigga's ill
That's who won't pay Said pull up Pull up, bitch
It was a journey to the heart of you
But I'm glad I finally found it, yeah
And baby, we got to go through it
Because ain't no way around it, yeah
Then she cuts me off with a kiss
Love's got nothing to do with this
Just the heat of the moment
Reminds you of something that you miss
Ooh
There's not much to explain.
No.
This big nigga just off the chain.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Whoa.
Whatever woman I'm invested in.
CeeLo is great.
I make sure she gets the best of him.
You'll never hear her complain.
Thanks, word.
I mean...
It's hard.
CeeLo Green's rendition of
Donald Glover, Childish Skin,
B&O's Redbone.
Oh, man.
Warm Pussy is probably one of their greatest creations.
Hey.
Am I doing that thing again
where I turn down the laptop volume
when the aux is in my phone?
Yep.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, that was New CeeLo Green
with his rendition of Donald Glover's Redbone 101.9,
I'll name this podcast.
Oh.
Formerly known as.
Formerly known as, I'll name this podcast later,
The Jill Budden Show Jammin' After 10 PM.
Don't touch that dial.
Got some new music on the way, some mint condition,
some escape.
Yo.
Why is Maul hating?
What the fuck?
This is JMSN,
Jameson,
I don't know how it's pronounced,
but it's Jameson.
Cruel intentions.
Jameson's great.
Yeah.
When he's not moaning.
He just listened to Cee Lo Revo.
Word.
Hey, all right now.
Let's go, J. Angelo.
J. Angelo is funny.
Wish I could serve back the head
Everybody wants to fuck someone else
Want to feel the thing they never felt
When they was with you, yeah
All right, yeah
My girl would tell me go get some help
I tried and tried but I can't seem to figure out the issue
What's the issue?
At the end of the day, I just want some attention
With all this empty space, we've got such cruel intentions
Cruel intentions, cruel intentions
Woah, woah, cruel intentions
I'm gone for that again
I made my fair share of mistakes
I've had my fair share of bad boys I'm tired of that line in R&B.
I made my fair share of mistakes.
Just shut up.
We make mistakes.
Yeah, but stop crooning it.
Don't croon your mistakes, Jameson.
This is Rory. Yeah, that was the issue, yeah
At the end of the day
At the end of the day
That was Jameson, Cruel Intentions.
That was Rory and Austin.
That was Rory and Chris Stiles.
Yo.
Hennessy Reminiscence. Chris Stiles would definitely really rock to that Rory and Chris Stiles. Yo.
Hennessy reminiscence.
Chris Stiles would definitely Millie Rock to that Rory record.
All right, I'm going to play this quick
because I got to take a leak.
Yeah, he's going to play it quick.
This is One Take Timmy.
Have you heard this?
Bryson Tiller, One Take Timmy?
Bryson Tiller, Cake?
No, I haven't heard Bryson Tiller
since the last time I heard Bryson Tiller.
This is One Take Timmy and Bryson Tiller.
It's called Cake.
God, Tiller. Is he about to rap
This shit sound like a 2017 Darth Vader I'm poppin' Tiller done got it poppin' Niggas is down talkin' I guess they ran out of options, yeah
Like a lost wallet, they out of pocket
Ooh, don't get me started, ayy
That's when the niggas go hardest
Flow get so chaotic
Rambo look good, topless
Dashboard, it's electronic
Calisay, I'm iconic
Nigga, you with no nine body
Need twenty million dollars profit
White feet like to go shopping
goddamn bingo nigga till i got cheap clothes nigga
talk to me though nigga better lose your motherfucking ego nigga i'm married to the beat though nigga
need a tuxedo nigga
the info come to the seminar you up your mcm just put up to the found blue starting in the rental car
you up mcm just overdrafted on her motherfuckin' debit card, yeah
Got to tell her I'm a reptile, yeah
I want this car, that car, yeah
Death, death to the bullshit, nigga, I'm deaf
I made a lot of money when I started being true to myself
A nigga couldn't make me me, I had to do it myself
So that's why I hate when a nigga tell me that he can use my help
Shot my niggas in Louisville, still All I is you kill kill ride through the city through the ear wheel
That struggle I made it through that struggle my vision tunnel. I want that cake that funnel This is trash What?
You trippin'
This is trash
You trippin'
This shit hard
The beat is hard
The song is hard
What the hook?
Don't need no hook on this shit
Exactly
I know
I know
I know I don't need no hook on this shit Exactly I know I don't need no hook on this shit I know I know
I don't need no hook on this shit
Amal is a wild
You a hater
It don't matter
You a hater
Now when this song is everywhere
You gonna be like
Nah I don't like it
It's a hot record
I don't like it
It's a hot record
Is it Rosario Dawson
Is out here like this
Is this an old video
I don't know about
What is
What she's blowing a kiss
Got the titties out And everything Why her titties Why does she have Is this an old video I don't know about? What is, what, she's blowing a kiss?
Got the titties out and everything.
Why her titties?
Why does she have the perfect areola?
This is Rosario Dawson?
Yeah.
And the camera come up to, like, prove it's her.
I don't understand what's happening. I mean, she's been topless in movies before.
She has, but this is just.
She's showing us all of her.
Oh, yeah, she about to make She's trying to make her ex jealous.
Anytime chicks start being extra like that, she's trying to make somebody mad.
And that's going to work because she looks great.
She does look great.
Yeah, she does look great.
See what I mean?
See?
See?
It's a joke.
I know.
Jesus, Mary and Joe.
So that's all the sleepers.
We're out the way.
Hey, Pat, can I get a time check please
That was one take
Timmy and Bryce
And Tillamite
With cake
Fam fam fam
We got it
Hard
That was trash
It was hard
Hey
Damn
I can tell I don't see
These guys too often
Oh shit
That's pretty awesome
Good
Unlike me spazzing
On everybody at Complex
For putting out a fucking
28 minute show this morning,
but whatever.
They don't care.
I don't care.
They don't care.
I don't care.
Yeah, I can't be the chief and get stressed.
Yo, did you see the picture of you,
Ack, and Nadeska in the office,
and they put the Brazzers logo on the bottom of it?
I thought it was Brazzers.
Whatever.
Yeah, I did see it.
It was great.
Brazzers used to be the shit.
It still is the shit. You're a little dude. Bro, it's still going on Brazzers. Whatever. Yeah, I did see it. It was great. Brazzers used to be the shit. It still is the shit.
Rory's still going on Brazzers.
Now it's on Pornhub.
It's already on there in the searches.
Instagram is Pornhub.
Instagram is Brazzers.
Why are you on these sites?
That's a fact.
Oh, man.
I'm getting the fuck out of here, man.
Make Brazzers the cover of this shit and Rory.
That's funny.
Hey, where's my
all score, man?
Let me fucking
end this shit
like we fucking
professionals, man.
Where's the fucking shit?
All right, here we go.
You're just going to
end it with Flex Line?
No, Joe Biden.
I think Trey
can give me 20 minutes.
No, Joe Biden.
Oh, I think Trey
can give me 20 minutes. Wait, why is this? Oh, I think Trey can give me 20 minutes.
Wait, why is this?
No, let's.
Yo.
We don't even really want that.
All right.
We don't even want this.
Shit.