The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 112 | "Good Morning"
Episode Date: May 17, 2017Episode 112 ... NBA lottery, Mother's Day, LA Reid's legacy, Steve Harvey's emails, Bryson Tiller, is college really needed? Sleeper Picks Of The Week: Joe: Kaytranada "Got It Good" | https://soundclo...ud.com/kaytranada/got-it-good Rory: Vanjess "Touch The Floor" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBdRPIB_bFs Mal: Che Ecru "2 AM" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=690BxPKrufs
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Oh, I think Trey could give me 20 minutes.
Why are we starting with this?
No one even likes this drop anymore.
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All right.
No Joe Button.
That shit is mad old.
It's just a dope drop.
Why are you bringing up old shit?
It's just a dope drop.
Welcome back.
I'm looking to the future.
You keep harping on this old shit.
Welcome back like we've been somewhere.
The Joe Button Podcast, episode number 112, I believe.
I'm done with the numbers.
I try to remember. 112. Listen, whatever. I think done with the numbers. I try to remember.
112.
Listen, whatever.
I think it's 112.
One of the players 12.
I remember when you.
That's how I know we never did episode 112,
because I would have 100% started singing 112 immediately.
So this has to be episode 112.
Damn, 112 came
out a long time ago.
Yeah. Oh, it's over,
man. What's over?
It. Us.
Damn, us.
Yo, so let's start with the draft.
Let's start with the draft.
Luckily for you guys, the Joe Button
podcast had our expert analysis
reporter on the scene
Oh that's me?
Yeah nigga
I was watching your insta snaps
I seen you
I seen you on the floor
Seen you close enough
To ref the game
You know what I mean?
On no floor
Relax
Oh
You tripped the referee?
No
I thought you did
I thought you tweeted that
I should have tripped
The fucking referee last night
It looked like the Wizards
Had it man Yeah If it means anything. It looked like the Wizards had it, man.
Yeah.
If it means anything, I was rooting for the Wizards.
You know what's funny?
I think a lot of people were, though.
I think people wanted to see Cleveland-Washington.
I told you last week that if the series goes long, John Wall will be gassed.
You did.
He gave it all he had in game six.
Bill came up.
He did what he had to do.
You know, people laughed at me on Twitter.
I thought that Mello on the Wizards makes sense.
I don't think it makes sense.
Move Porter to this bench.
I think they like Kelly Oubre as their future small forward.
I mean, I blame that game on a lot of things last night.
I think Brad Stevens outcoached Scott Brooks.
We knew that was going to happen.
Yeah, Scott Brooks didn't utilize his bench enough.
I don't understand how he didn't play Kelly Oubre last night.
I don't understand how he played Mahimi more than he played Jason Smith.
They clearly needed a big that can move his feet and stay in front of Kelly Olenek.
All right, you're giving me too much analysis on this old guy.
I don't care about that.
Back to the draft.
The draft, the draft, the draft, the draft, the draft.
I'm a Knicks fan, and Knicks got the eighth pick.
Yeah, like we kind of figured around that.
Yeah, I'm not mad at that.
I said seven.
Seven was my realistic guess.
My worst fear was that they would fall in the 9-10 range.
I would love to see the pick they would have got
if they didn't win those last four out of the six games.
I only know that because I read it in the newspaper.
I certainly stopped watching the Knicks a long time ago.
I'm too invested as a fan.
I'm too passionate.
I can't do it.
But I'm not mad at eight.
Maul is a Laker fan.
Rory, where does your sport?
I'm a Knicks fan.
Oh, yeah, you're a Knicks fan as well.
So, Maul, let's deal with you because you were jumping up and down in front of the screen.
You were screaming.
I think you punched me at one point. Yeah were pretty excited about that punch had nothing to do with
the lottery but oh i think you were pretty excited about the whole countdown magic you know he sent
the bag in for sure see all right conspiracy theorist joe and then i'm going to throw it to
our expert fucking reporter here the lakers are in very good standing with the league.
Honestly.
The Lakers are one of the teams that the league needs to.
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but, No. The Eastern Conference playoffs need the New York Knicks. I believe that. I really do believe that.
The Knicks ain't been in the playoffs.
But that's a problem.
The NBA has been pushing forward without them.
Yeah, they're doing just fine.
No, I think the Mellow thing just blew up, you know,
and then filled with this triangle shit just blew up in their face.
But I do think the NBA needs the New York Knicks.
It's still going, the triangle.
This is what I think.
I think that the NBA does have or should have higher interest in some of the bigger market teams, i.e. the Celtics, Lakers, Knicks, and Sixers, right?
Yeah. to do to put basketball people in the right positions with these organizations,
i.e. Jerry Colangelo in Philadelphia, Phil Jackson in New York.
That Lakers situation was a mess.
They fixed that up.
Ainge is great over there.
So, I mean, you know what I mean?
It just so happens the Knicks got stuck with the fucktard.
The Knicks got stuck with the hard-headed, arrogant,
egotistical
Zen Master.
No,
the only thing I think
fucked up...
Who's also checked out.
The only thing I think
fucked up the Knicks...
He's robbing us.
He's robbing us.
I don't think he's robbing you
because he made
good draft picks.
I think what fucked up
Phil Jackson was...
He made one good draft pick.
Yeah.
Let's make that clear.
Him putting that
no trade clause
in Mello's contract
fucked the Knicks up. He gave it to him. Yeah Yeah. Let's make that clear. Him putting that no trade clause in Melo's contract fucked Nix up.
He gave it to him.
Yeah, but that was the one move that I think fucked everything up.
He gave it to him and he courted him.
Yeah.
So now the way—
But anybody would—I mean, at that time, Melo was, you know, you would court Melo if he was here, too.
Not if you felt the way that Phil Jackson says he has always felt about Carmelo.
Phil Jackson says he has always felt about Carmelo.
Now those old statements that Phil Jackson made about Carmelo when he was still a member of the Denver Nuggets have to come back to light here.
They weren't such favoring comments that he made about him in his game.
Was it in his book?
I don't remember when it was, but they had to fix that up before Melo even,
you know, before, they had to fix that.
Yeah.
You realize Melo has not beaten the Nuggets since he got traded from them?
The Knicks have not beaten the Nuggets since he got traded from the Nuggets.
Not one time.
You're trying to make me sad.
No, that's a crazy stat, though.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
I just can't see how you would waste a Hall of Famer in his peak.
They didn't do shit.
If there are any ladies listening, I promise,
we're going to be done with the draft talk soon.
But I do know a lot of hoes and thots listen to our podcast as well.
And I know a lot of y'all hoes and thots don't really recognize the names we're saying,
but on draft night, y'all going to be out.
So technically, you should be listening.
Yeah, honestly.
And I have an interesting theory about the Celtics.
You're not a fan of it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is great. Yeah, honestly. And I have an interesting theory about the Celtics. You're not a fan of it.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
This is great.
This is great.
This is a conspiracy theory mall for the first time.
I want to hear it.
I think that the Celtics are going to let IT walk.
I don't think they're going to pay a 5'7 guard almost $200 million.
I believe it.
That's the hot take horn?
I believe they're going to draft Fultz.
They're going to draft a point guard.
Is Maul fucking nuts?
I'm telling you.
They're not letting him go.
All right, so earlier you said you think they're going to let him go.
They're going to bring in Gordon Hayward, and they're going to draft Fultz.
Roy, what do you think about this?
I kind of respect Maul's basketball knowledge sometimes.
Joe, listen, though.
You can't draft a point guard with the number one pick and make him a bench guy.
You're not going to bring him off the bench.
You're not drafting a point guard with the number one pick
to bring him off the bench.
That's not happening.
You're not going to do that.
You're not going to do that.
Why?
Because why would you draft a point guard?
You might as well go after an area you need.
The Celtics don't need guards.
You draft the best player available.
I would draft the best big available.
Which is who?
Probably Tatum.
Tatum plays the what?
Three.
Three, four.
They don't need a three or a four.
I mean, they're going to
go after Gordon Hayward.
They do need a three.
Why can't they draft
Fultz and then end up
trading him and keep
Isaiah Thomas?
Why would you give up
one of the best players
in the league right now?
They can't score a bucket
without him.
Bring in Gordon Hayward.
And you want to trade
that and put all your
chips in this unproven,
I get it, stud sensation
in Fultz.
Okay, so let me say this.
If they draft Fultz, let me. And faults. If they draft faults.
Let me just say that.
If they draft a point guard, they don't plan on having IT.
Man, the first 16 teams are drafting point guards.
Yeah, but that's my thing.
So what are you going to do?
You're going to just have them sitting on the bench?
You're going to take your number one pick and have them sitting on the bench?
You're not just letting the guy walk that score 30 a game since February.
But it's a business.
You got to think long-term.
You understand?
Isaiah Thomas is how old?
He'll be 29, 30, 29.
All right, none of these niggas are paying me, so I don't care this much.
I'm just saying that's just my – if they draft Fultz,
I don't think they have long-term plans for IT.
Is it a given that Gordon Hayward is going there?
I think it's almost a given. He's leaving utah and i think you know i think him and
age are kind of you know on the same page somehow on mother's day i ended up in bounce in nyc and i
bumped in uh cj mccullough and some of his friends uh shout out to him friend of the show Let me see if I can get A round of applause For CJ Good guy
Great player
Great player
Yeah
So then he started
Lying to me
Lying to me to my face
I start telling him
He should come to the Knicks
Yeah man
Good organization
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Like, he ain't going nowhere.
He got the bag.
Yeah, he got a bag.
I'm going to invite him to the pool party.
Yeah, you should.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Got to watch these athlete niggas, man.
You ain't learned your lesson yet.
Me?
We haven't seen enough of these stories.
It's not going to stop.
Oh, wait, I forgot.
Yo, the week feels so long. Oh, we never even touched. It did feel like a long week since we last saw each other. Yeah, it's been a long week. It's been going to stop. Oh, wait, I forgot. Yo, the week feels so long.
Oh, we never even touched. It did feel like a long week.
It's been a long week.
It's been a long week.
All right, so let's get off of that.
Let's get off of that, and we'll revisit that when we start finding out what teams are going to do.
Good luck to the Knicks.
Good luck to the Lakers.
Wait, who do you want the Lakers to take?
If we're going to go after God, I want Dennis Smith Jr.
With the number two pick?
With the number two pick?
Yeah. I think that's where—I think the Knicks are going to end up with him. After God, I want Dennis Smith Jr. With the number two pick?
I think that's where, I think the Knicks are going to end up with him.
I'm just saying, if the Lakers, I don't want Lonzo Ball.
They're taking Lonzo Ball.
I either want Dennis Smith Jr. or Josh Jackson. He is a Laker.
Josh Jackson.
Ball is a Laker.
I think the Knicks are stupid enough to take some foreign kid.
They got their eyes on that French dude.
I think y'all going to get Malik Monk.
Nikolai French, I'll be. Yeah. I think y'all gonna get Malik Monk. Nikolai French.
I'll be very happy.
I think Smith Jr.
I don't think Malik Monk
stays on that board
at number eight.
Dennis Smith Jr.,
they have him going eight
right now.
He's not gonna go
that far down.
Especially if he goes
to the camp.
If he works out,
he's not going that far down.
Malik Monk is not
dropping that far.
No.
I don't think so.
All right.
So we'll find out.
We'll revisit this now. What is pertinent now? Are we all tired of the L. No. I don't think so. All right, so we'll find out. We'll revisit this now.
What is pertinent now?
Are we all tired
of the L.A. Reid story?
I know I've been adamant in it
and I've spoken
with lots of conviction.
Yo, there's a creepy thing
going on with this show, man.
Like, we talk about shit
on here, man,
and it comes to fruition
and I'm like, man,
what the fuck is going on?
And that L.A. Reid shit
that Joe was talking about
came out of fucking nowhere.
Yeah, man.
It's not even like
he was in the news.
Joe just wanted to hate someone. I don't even think Joe hates L.A. Reid. Yeah, man. It's not even like he was in the news. Joe just wanted
to hate someone.
I don't even think
Joe hates L.A. Reid.
I just think he needs
to find someone
to dislike.
That's my theory.
That's not true.
Y'all know that my brain
is multi-layered.
Y'all know I'm obsessive.
You know I'm a deep thinker.
AKA, you're crazy as back.
However you want to put this.
I put L.A. Reid
I thought I've explained this
Why I'm so adamant in my position fam
You made a lot of sense with it though
But again
I understand in my tone
My delivery
I get that part
Once all you suck ass niggas get past that
The message be loud and clear
I agree Now I never Would have correlated niggas get past that. The message be loud and clear.
I agree.
Now, I never would have correlated him losing money everywhere he went
to hiring strippers and hoes
on the company dime.
I mean, that's a regular scene.
And I'm not kind of mad at that.
I'm not mad at that,
but no, you can't do that.
And you can't do that and be in charge of the bags.
See, because this is the problem.
You're in charge of everybody's bag.
You're in charge of the company bag.
No one has challenged you on this information you're getting that he's lost money at every place.
You just keep saying, look it up.
Where do I look it up?
Where do I see that L.A. Reid lost money at every place he went to?
Tell me why Amherst Records no longer exists, because I can tell you.
Because they signed shitty artists in the last few years.
That's not true.
That's not true.
They signed great artists.
They did nothing with them.
Okay, Def Jam's still afloat with artists that L.A. was behind and pushing and signed.
Let's talk about it.
Rihanna, Young Jeezy.
Oh, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. L.A. Reid had zero to do with Rihanna Young Jeezy Oh stop stop stop Stop stop stop Stop stop stop
Stop stop stop
L.A. Reid had
Zero to do with Rihanna
Coming to Def Jam
Okay
Zero to do with Rihanna
Coming to Def Jam
Don't do that
But developing her
Into the pop star
That she is now
I was on Def Jam
When Rihanna got to Def Jam
L.A. Reid didn't have
A fucking thing to do
With Rihanna
Coming to Def Jam
Okay I'm just saying
Fuck the signing
No no no
Fuck the signing part
Let's stay at Rihanna
Making her into a pop star
L.A. Reid all day Okay I'm just saying Fuck the signing No no no Fuck the signing part Let's stay at Rihanna Making her into a pop star LA Reid all day
Okay
I'm rolling
Not really
But I'm with you
You have to give him some credit
Cause he was there
During the tenure
Give him some credit
He was there
During the tenure
But he had
He was steering the ship
He had zero
He didn't steer no
Wait hold up
When SOS
Cause I remember
They tried to give
One of those records
To Christina Milian
I don't That wasn't LA LA Reid was not there During SOS Hold up. When S.O.S. Because I remember they tried to give one of those records to Christina Milian.
That wasn't L.A.
L.A. Reid was not there during S.O.S.
L.A. Reid was not there for Umbrella.
So when you say that he broke Rihanna, I'm not rolling with that.
Now, did he add to her career?
I'm rolling.
I mean, he was there.
And he's a genius in R&B.
I'm not hating that. I think with Umbrella, of course, that pushed her to becoming a pop star.
But her developing into Rihanna, not just a pop star.
Like, Rihanna has that separation where she has that Madonna shit.
Like, that happened when L.A. was steering the ship.
Of course, Hov signed Rihanna, et cetera, et cetera.
Umbrella was a big record.
It put her in the charts.
That didn't make Rihanna.
Umbrella, Good Girl, Going Bad did not make Rihanna.
Rated R made Rihanna to me.
And that was L.A. Reid all day.
I won't argue against L.A. Reid contributing to Rihanna.
But Joe's beef wasn't with R&B or L.A. Reid.
I think it was more from hip-hop.
No, no, no.
I don't know if we had the—
Yeah, that is where my ultimate problem lie.
But Rory made his point.
He said nobody is challenging me.
He wants to challenge me.
Rory used to work for L.A. Reid.
I forgot all about that and don't know
too much about that. I just know about my
experience with him, and that's what
I base it on. So my experience with him
and being there for that whole
switch, every so
often, the entire
industry does a whole
shift. So that was a
big, big deal when Kevin and Lior upped.
The whole industry played musical chairs.
Warner, Universal, like that was the news.
Yeah.
So when L.A. got there to go from golden era Def Jam,
Def Jam, Def Jam, to L.A. who just was fired, who just was the shit talk of the industry.
Everybody in music, his name was Mud.
Right.
And he came.
And he came.
And we was a little worried about that.
We was a little nervous there.
Which is why they said, okay, he got to hire a hip-hop guy.
He got to hire Hov. But anyway, my point is to go
from Lior to L.A. is such a
drastic change. And those changes
implemented in the staple
of hip-hop.
Okay. Granted, I agree with you there.
I agree with you there, but you have to look at
where hip-hop was at the time.
And in my opinion, L.A. Reid might have been the better
guy there because it wasn't the golden age anymore.
It's not like Lior and L.A. switched
and hip-hop switched.
Hip-hop was switching already.
No.
Yes, it was.
What year did L.A. get there?
That was 05, 06?
05, 06.
05 might have been one of the biggest
changed years in hip-hop history.
Yeah. That might have been the biggest transition. 05 might have been one of the biggest changed years in hip-hop history yeah that might have been the biggest transition 05 might have been the biggest transition from our typical uh east coast shit
that we loved to the south and the snap movement it music changed significantly in 05 and i i think
it was okay that's that's a good point i'm rolling rolling. And I think LA, with which Universal was just doing in general,
you have to put that in this factor as well.
They had signed Justin Bieber.
A lot of Def Jam artists were going to Island.
Tayo Cruz was keeping the fucking lights on at Universal.
Hip-hop wasn't doing it.
Neo was popping at the time.
They needed a guy that was more versed in R&B, not just hip-hop.
Which is perfectly fine Until that gentleman
Starts calling the shots
On the hip hop side
Right
Yeah I think that's what
Joe's question was
I think
No no you gotta take
I mean he tried to hire people
At the time
Well
That were hip hopists
Shakir
God bless his soul
Was amazing
Yeah
Somebody else was real amazing
I will say that He had some amazing they had all
right so when he had that with shakir then obviously he wasn't the hip-hop hip-hop guy he
got lenny s he got sean money he was trying to grab people that he knew that hip-hop was his
achilles heel there even though he had outcast and fucking brought all of the dungeon family
to fruition we'll just leave that to the side he He knew that. So he hired people that knew hip hop.
He was a good leader at the time.
It just didn't pan out very well just because I think music in general didn't pan out very well.
In three different places.
I'm just talking about Def Jam right now.
Okay, so let's stay on Def Jam.
So now you get to Def Jam.
You change the entire business model.
And underneath all of this,
music was changing.
There lie allegations of sexual misconduct.
Don't even want to talk about that.
Why?
Because we're talking about his legacy in music.
No, that's what you're talking about.
I'm talking about my experience with L.A. Reid.
The information that I have received from L.A. Reid. Oh, well, if you want to talk about his situation. The information that I have received from L.A. Reid,
why I view L.A. Reid like I talk about him,
and it's very unlike you and the rest of the people that speak to his legacy.
His legacy is cemented in music.
It's amazing.
We never got to talk about LaFace.
There's nothing to argue.
There's nothing to even debate.
Well, no, you also said off-air to me that you were saying
that's not just about rap
When music period
And I looked at you nuts
No I've never said that in my life
I've never said that in my life
I've never said in my life
Music period
I'm lying
Did you just snitch?
No
You said he said off air to me
And then you said
Well yeah
He didn't say it on air
Is that snitching now?
You said it was said off air
And you brought it on air
And then you brought it on air
Damn
Oh shit
Listen man I'm trying to give you 20 minutes Now we have to get It was set off air. You brought it on air. And then you brought it on air. Damn. Oh, shit. Listen, man.
We're going to get you out of here.
You know what I mean?
You're trying to give me 20 minutes of this.
Now we have to get the trash in.
Yeah, we got to get the fucking shit, man.
Oh, my God.
This is terrible.
This is terrible.
Anyway.
So what were we talking about just now?
Oh, L.A. Reid.
All right.
So let's not touch that.
But my experience there is you took a staple.
You fucking put that shit in a blender.
Some other shit came out.
A lot of people lost their jobs.
I watched people that I love just be unemployed.
He drove that building to shit, and they shipped his ass out of there, too.
Yeah.
They shipped him The fuck out So when I go sit down
In front of L.A. Reid
And me just being
Passionate about hip hop
And he starts giving me
The spiel about
How all of these
Def Jam acts
And songs
Have too many words
In them
I feel a way about it
I do
I do
I do
It was
Again
I do
I don't care
L.A. Reid said you were
Too wordy Not me He named us It was a slew And I do. Again, it was 2005. You were too wordy?
Not me.
Okay.
He named us.
It was a slew, and I won't get into it.
But there were a lot of Def Jam acts.
And you know what?
You reap what you sow.
Because at the time, the knock on Lyle's and these niggas was,
oh, y'all just keep giving deals to all the old niggas.
Like, y'all going to give fucking, like, L.L. Like y'all going to give fucking, like Ella always have a deal here.
Like Mefa always have a deal here.
Like certain niggas would always have.
I think so.
They should.
I think so, but I do understand the business side of it when you're on the decline
or you're on the downside of your career.
No offense to anybody.
I understand it.
So that was the knock there.
So I'm all with new Blood And doing things a different way
But that twist
And now to see where he is
And what he is attached to
No
No
I don't credit LA for Khaled
I don't
Well I credit Khaled for Khaled
But
Having someone steering the ship
So my point is
That actually make the deal go through
Khaled can't sign a deal himself It takes two people So my point is that actually make the deal go through Khaled can't sign
a deal himself
it takes two people
so my point is
so recognizing that
and recognizing Travis
and Future
to break
because Epic was
Epic was shit
before he got there
Khaled was with him
on Def Jam
I know
he just brought
the whole crew over there
when they shipped
his ass out
yeah cause they liked him
no cause he fucking
funnels the money
to his niggas
I'm sorry I'm sorry what exec doesn't do that no there's nothing everyone in the world Yeah, because they liked him. No, because he fucking funnels the money to his niggas.
I'm sorry, what exec doesn't do that?
No, there's nothing. Everyone in the world was at Atlantic.
Donald Trump is doing it right now, Rory, but my point is you have to be able to do that.
Kaiser, Julie, Todd were all there.
But you have to be able to do that and meet the quota.
Everybody you just named.
I'm still wondering where you get this info.
You're just saying it.
You haven't proven it yet.
You keep saying look it up.
Where do I look it up?
Wait, wait, time out, time out.
What is he saying that I'm not proving?
That he lost money everywhere he went.
What?
Okay.
You can Google why he is not at Def Jam.
You can Google why he is not at Arista.
And you can Google what is happening at Epic right now.
Future is the flagship artist at Epic right this second.
He just started selling records a second ago.
He been the flagship there forever.
Stop telling me about Epic and L.A. Reid's fucking greatness.
Stop.
I don't think he's the flagship.
Epic is Sony.
That's a big label. There's a
lot of other people other than Future on
Sony. What other rap acts?
I looked them up. I looked them up.
No, I'm talking about hip-hop. I'm talking about rap.
Say hip-hop because you didn't say hip-hop. I'm only talking about
hip-hop with L.A. What is...
I know that's your man, Rory, but you gotta start making...
L.A. is not my man. You gotta start making
sense here. I'm only talking
about hip-hop. You was not when we originally had this conversation, so now you're saying it's hip-hop when you didn't say it before. That's not man. You got to start making sense here. I'm only talking about hip-hop.
You was not when we originally had this conversation.
So now you're saying it's hip-hop when you didn't say it before. You said the same very shit you always say.
You said, I'm going to try to argue it.
Okay.
All right.
And I said, you're going to lose.
I was there.
And you said, I was there.
And you didn't say hip-hop.
You didn't say hip-hop.
And then he told me he was there.
And I said, okay, I didn't know that.
But I'm only talking about my experience.
That's it.
Nothing wrong.
I mean, more will be revealed.
You got to give time time.
We watching it unfold.
That's all.
What do you give good music to?
Strictly Kanye, or you think L.A. had anything to do with that?
I don't give any of that to L.A. Reid.
Why do you give it to L.A. Reid?
Because he was the head of the company when it was created.
All right.
Rory is nuts.
I'm not.
No, I'm not nuts.
Yeah, but that was gay, though.
All right.
Okay.
Do you give Lior Rockefeller?
You give Lior Rockefeller?
No.
Oh, well, then there's plenty of things that would act don't deserve credit for.
Why am I giving Lior Rockefeller?
Tell me.
He was the head of the company at the time.
He had a lot to do with that deal and what they were doing.
This is a conversation, unfortunately, we cannot touch.
That'll be the only time I ever say this on this podcast.
This one right here that you're trying to lead me to is the only one we cannot touch.
So I'm not touching it.
But I'm not giving Rockefeller to Leo, and I'm not giving good music to fucking LA.
I don't know what...
All right, Rory's got an affinity for LA.
No, I don't.
We're just having a conversation.
All right, well, it doesn't make sense.
I'm just talking about the other side.
So you think because he was just there that he had...
No, I'm saying if all the other execs are getting the credit for all these amazing clicks and acts while they were the head of the label, why does L.A. not get the same luxury?
But you're the person that said that.
I never am crediting Leroy Cohen for Rockefeller or Murder, Inc. or Rough Riders.
Well, that is what made his era at Def Jam so amazing.
No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no.
Then you got Lior fucked up.
I don't have,
well, first of all,
I don't have Lior fucked up,
but I credit a lot of-
That, of course,
added to his shit.
But I don't think-
Then what's his legacy
at Def Jam?
Nobody is saying
that Lior curated these clicks.
No, I'm not,
first of all,
I'm not saying that,
but he put them
on a label together.
I give Lior credit because L Leo was a forward thinker.
So at the time, he was the only person brave enough to take on entire companies and wear it.
So I give him that.
That's why he's a genius.
He put that faith in niggas when it was taboo to do in music.
So I give him that.
But Leo's greatness, I could speak to that all day. I don't want to get into that. L.A., I'm not giving him good music. So I give him that. But Lior's greatness, I could speak to that all day.
I don't want to get into that.
L.A., I'm not giving him good music.
Jesus, man.
We in Joseph.
What else you want to give this nigga?
God damn it.
Young Jeezy?
What?
I'm finished with this conversation.
Shakir brought him to L.A. and L.A. Sounder.
What are you talking about?
I'm finished with this conversation.
All right, so then we're not giving any executive any credit ever.
If that's the narrative you want to go with, we can't give any executive credit at all for anything that happens on a label.
If you're leading the company and that's happening under you and you're approving everything on yes or no, you get credit for it.
I give Lior credit for Rockefeller.
I give L.A. Reid credit for Young Jeezy.
Shakur brought
Shakur brought him
and said
yo this guy is nice.
L.A. yes
let's do it.
Launched Jeezy's career.
Rap music.
I have a totally
different recollection
of that entire
chain of events
that Rory speaks of.
Nice.
What do these
chains of events
you speak of Rory?
I don't remember that happening like that at all
I mean I get it but I don't
It's a lot of
L.A. Reid ain't have a fucking thing to do with Def Jam
And then what?
With In The Streets popping
He was nowhere near Def Jam when that record came out
Why are we crediting L.A. Reid?
Google is our friend
Alright
Google is our friend Alright In right. Google is our friend.
All right.
In May 2004, Jazzy Fuzz manager sent Jeezy's demo to Shakir, vice president and artist, A&R at Def Jam.
Stewart fell in love with the demo, heard it, took it to L.A. Reid.
Reid recognized the talent and gave Stewart the green light to sign it.
Jeezy was on Def Jam.
Jeezy is a layover artist.
When L.A. got there. Jeezy was on Def Jam. Jeezy is a layover artist.
When L.A. got there,
Jeezy was there.
That paperwork was in,
in happening.
And even,
I don't know about all that.
Let's Google when that record,
when and then what hit the streets.
Roy ain't giving L.A.
a lot of credit
that he don't deserve.
I'm just arguing the other side.
What other side?
I wish,
that L.A. gets, like, some credit here.
It just...
You're giving L.A.
All right, let's say that you're right.
Because we ain't got time to Google.
You're giving L.A. credit for Shakir's greatness?
No.
Well, recognizing...
Hiring someone so great
to then bring Jeezy to him, yeah.
Which would be great.
That's what a leader does.
He hires people that are talented to then bring him the talent.
That makes sense, Rory, if you're meeting the overhead.
If you're meeting the overhead, if you're meeting the quota, then you're right.
If you're doing all of these amazing things and you are hitting your mark quarterly.
This is 05, so we wouldn't know at that point.
It was his first year.
I wish I could toss it to the desk right now
that's funny how i wish i could just toss it to the desk right now now that i'm done uh trying
to make you understand that la deserves some credit i will say la's legacy at def jam in a
negative way was he's the reason why Def Jam has no longer
had any artist development. They only know how to market stars because that's what LA
was amazing at, was marketing stars. Spending money, you mean. Spending money, you mean.
It takes a lot of money to do that. Spending money. He knows how to spend a lot of money.
Me too. I think Big Sean. Yeah, me too. I don't know how much of a genius you got to
be to spend a lot of fucking money for a long time.
Big Sean did that all on his fucking own.
They didn't give a fuck about Big Sean.
And then all of a sudden, his shit popped.
And they're like, all right, well, let's do Marvin Gaye and Chardonnay.
But no, there's no artist development over there.
And I think L.A. was a big part of that.
But I just also think that's where music was at the time.
It was hard for labels to do artist development.
They only knew how to spend money. But that was everyone. I don't think that was just L. at the time. It was hard for labels to do artist development. They only knew how to spend money.
But that was everyone.
I don't think that was just LA.
Spending money was the music business.
Lior and Kevin did it.
Everyone did it.
They spent a shit ton of money.
But Kevin and Lior adapted much better to it and found new ways, which makes them great.
I promise the listeners that for the next, let's say for the next few months, I refrain from
speaking on L.A. Reid. I've said my piece. I'm on to the next. On to the next. I don't
know who the next is, but I'm on to the next. What is the next? How was Mother's Day? We
didn't even get to Mother's Day. Shout to all the mothers out there, by the way. I love
all of you. Mine was good.
Shout to my mom.
Love you, mom.
I think my new tradition is going to be celebrating Mother's Day the day before or the day after when everyone else is doing it.
Yeah, the day of is always hectic.
Yeah, I'm never celebrating Mother's Day or Mother's Day.
Rory sent an interesting-
I was going to get to that.
Get to what?
So I take my mother out for dinner on Mother's Day, naturally.
And she's a friend of the show.
She listens to the podcast.
Hi, Rory's mom.
Hi, Rory's mom.
Loves you both and had a question about Maul.
And I said, great.
I love Maul.
I love questions.
I love Maul and I love questions.
Be inquisitive about my friend.
She said, is Maul gay?
Moms love that question.
So naturally, knowing mole is not gay.
I was like, no.
Why do you think that?
Well, every time you guys bring up, you know, women, he gets like uncomfortable and dating women.
He's never done that before, which is kind of a sign.
I mean, hold on, hold on.
What is the hmm about? What is on. What is the hmm about?
What is that?
What is the hmm about?
I don't know.
I can't hmm?
No, nigga.
You don't hmm when somebody's alluding
to why they think I might be gay.
No, no, no.
Get the fuck out of here.
No, I'm not hmm.
Nah, I know you're not gay.
I've seen you do legendary shit.
Come on, come on, come on, come on.
Relax, relax.
Oh, who's snitching this?
Relax, man.
Relax.
Relax.
Relax, dog. Relax. Relax. Relax, dog.
Relax.
All right, relax. Are you coming to the pool party?
Maybe.
Relax, my nigga.
Oh, man.
So I did progress.
Dog.
Relax, my nigga.
Relax.
Who really had Mendeci's heart?
How did Yandy and Erica end up with...
Relax.
Why is relax so funny?
I never want to relax. But you never relax.
When I say relax.
It's like, oh, but it be relaxed already.
Nah, you ain't relaxed.
All right, back to Rory, man.
And then I'm trying to explain to her that you are not gay.
And then she just gets into the other mode of, well, I don't care if he's gay.
Like, if that's your friend, I don't care if he's gay.
That's the funny part.
I know he's not gay.
Well, it's okay if he is gay.
It's like, you know, no, mom, I'm not gay.
I promise I'm not. Rory's mom always not gay. Well, it's okay if he is gay. It's like, you know, no, mom, I'm not gay. I promise I'm not.
Rory's mom always not gay.
Nothing against gay people, but no.
I was umming because outside of the conclusion of her assessment, she might have read you pretty good, man.
No, it's just, you know what it is, y'all.
Because you haven't had a relationship in a long time.
I had a relationship.
Not one that you'll tell people about.
I had a relationship.
But what I'm saying is people get that because you just put so much emphasis on that.
You haven't had a girlfriend, man.
In like 22 years.
That's not true.
We've only been with each other for the past mad years.
Where your mood music fucking 3K about?
I've had a girlfriend. That was like fucking 11 years ago. Nah, Duke. What? I haven't had a girlfriend Mad years Where your mood music Fucking 3 came out I've had a girlfriend
That was like
Fucking 11 years ago
Nah Duke
What I haven't had a girlfriend
No
I have
Which is why Rory's mom
Is fucking
You know what I mean
No I've had a girlfriend
Alright man
And I've definitely had relationships
Maybe not girlfriend
I don't care
As long as you come to the pool party
I'm straight
Shut up man
Let's take a hit
You always want some bullshit to start
Yo
No bullshit
It's happening at the pool party
Yeah I think it might have to happen
I think bullshit might have to happen
Absolutely
Speaking of pool party
I'm here to lay down the rules
And the etiquette of pool parties
This pool party etiquette
I'm happy about this
I think we should get this
We should put this in the air now
We're about a month out
You know what I'm saying
We need to put this out now I like it's lit. We're about a month out. You know what I'm saying? We need to put this out now.
I like it.
Yeah.
Actually, tomorrow will be exactly a month out.
Right.
So when you're hearing this, we're a month out.
Right.
Number one, people have to remember, if you're not invited, do not show up.
Even if you think you're invited.
Do people really listen to that?
No.
This is why we're putting it out there.
I don't care if we follow each other.
I don't care if we've had conversations.
If I didn't invite you,
don't show up saying,
yo,
Maul said,
because Maul ain't said nothing.
Yeah.
That's a fact.
Also,
we have a list going.
There will be no plus ones.
Your actual name has to be something else yeah and if
you are a plus one for some weird reason away from this you don't get a plus one away from this we
all have to sit down and look look at each other's list of invites because i feel like there's some
overlapping i feel like there may be some overlapping between who someone might invite
erica and someone might invite yandy everybody in in the clique is fucking wifed up.
No, but I'm not, that doesn't matter.
I'm talking about there still might be some overlapping in invites is what I'm saying.
Oh, no, no, no.
I have already told niggas.
Because like you might invite somebody that I'm kind of like, I don't fuck with that nigga.
Who am I inviting?
I'm just, I don't know.
That's why we got to sit down and look at lists.
Who you don't fuck with?
There's a few niggas I don't fuck with.
You know that.
Damn, since when? I don't fuck with niggas, man.iggas I don't fuck with. You know that. Damn, since when?
I don't fuck with niggas, man.
Nah, all I know is cool with everybody.
No, I'm cool.
It ain't beef.
I just don't want to be around niggas at a pool party.
I ain't trying to have fake conversations and fake what's ups.
You're not trying to snap with them?
Nah.
Oh, no, I don't want none of that.
Well, tell me so I can be mad at them, too.
This is why we have to have conversations away from the show.
I'm that kind of friend.
No, I'm saying, yeah, but that's why we're going to have conversations away from the show.
No, fuck you, man.
Yes, I am.
No, fuck you, man.
Yes, I am.
Ah, look at Rory.
Oh, man.
Hold up, man.
Where's my fucking...
Rory sounds like he got some salt.
What happened?
Oh, now we got some salt.
Oh, fuck it.
What the fuck was that?
We got to wait
to ask the department.
Did you wait to...
Did you hit me with the off-air?
Oh, she hit the off-air button.
Yo, Rory is crazy, man.
You hit the off-air button on me?
Rory's a wild dude, man.
Joe, a little shady.
Rory, you seem like you might have a little bit of beef out there in the streets, though.
I got a little bit.
Yeah, I know.
I got a little bit.
That's...
But see, but that's my point with Rory.
I don't have beef.
I just don't...
That's my only point with Rory.
I can't speak for Rory and his fucking anger management,
Irish Henny Palooza ways when I'm not around.
Right.
I can only say that I've heard enough stories from enough people
to make my own conclusions about Rory and his Irish Henny Palooza ways
when he's out of town.
So what do you want me to do?
Yeah.
What bad ways have I done with my anger?
We can talk about that on air.
What have I done with my anger? Oh, come on that on air. What have I done with my anger?
Oh, come on. Is this a case?
This sound like a fucking case.
This is a story that will go down
in the love and hip-hop history books.
I don't get in anybody's way.
What is a lie?
Yo, listen, and we're not doing
if ladies and females got
them little lap dogs, don't bring your fucking lap dog
to the pool party, yo. Okay, now let's deal with that. We're them Little lap dogs Don't bring your fucking Lap dog to the pool party Okay now let's deal with that
We're not doing lap dogs
We're not doing lap dogs
Cause I will gladly
Throw that shit to Brooklyn
And let them have a ball with it
Brooklyn eat that shit
Let's deal with that
I have hired
15 security guards
Off duty officers
And vehicles
Brooklyn
Kenzo
Harlem pussy
But I'm sure
There'll be some other dangerous shit around.
We ain't with the shits, man.
If you're not invited, just don't come.
I don't care if you cool with mall.
I don't care.
See, damn.
See?
Why I got to beat me off the bat?
Because I know you the nigga that they're going to try and get the little in with.
That's why I put that out there.
Because you played three on three one day with some nigga somewhere.
First of all, a nigga playing three on three is crazy right now.
What's wrong with three on three?
Niggas ain't playing three on three no more, man.
Yo, mall is so Hollywood, man.
Three on three?
You think if a nigga called me right now and said,
let's go play three on three, I'm going to be like, bet?
Mall.
Get the fuck out of here.
Mall, you know what's funny about mall?
What's funny about mall?
Let me tell you what's funny about mall.
Okay, let's hear it.
The last time that I saw mall on the court.
It was how long ago?
Years. Yes, it was years. So you know I'm not playing three on three with nobody. The last time that I saw him all on the court. Was how long ago? Years?
Yes, it was years.
So you know I'm not playing three on three with nobody.
But it was a two man and we was in the park.
And homeboy fucking Jade your fucking face, Shad.
Oh, are we going to talk about that?
Shad.
Because I forgot homeboy's name when we was.
Yo, listen, if we talking about hooping, when we was at the park, what was his name?
Romello?
Romeo? We going to call him Romeo. I think it at the park, what was his name? Romello? Romeo?
We going to call him Romeo.
I think it was.
This nigga was shooting.
It was Romello.
Romello.
This nigga was shooting.
Anyone named Romello is good at basketball.
No, no, no.
But you don't understand.
He was shooting jumpers and calling it good before it even went in.
He was Steph Curry before Steph Curry.
He was turning away, running down the other end of the court before it went in.
No one yelled switch after the first three?
We was trying to, but you know Joe got that.
I got him.
I got him.
He was 49 years old.
I don't care how old he was.
That nigga was J-ing your face off.
No?
Romello had a good game.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Cool.
He was hot that day.
Romello had a good game that day.
He's like, that's good.
That shit was 10 feet in the air still.
I'm like, my nigga, dog.
Joe, switch.
Switch. I'm off the court saying that's good. Switch.
Joe like, nah, I got him. I got him. Alright, nigga,
we down.
We down six. The game is 10.
That score in the last eight. Yeah, I'm like,
switch. Nah, I got him. I'm like, alright, man.
Ramello had a good game that day.
He had a hell of a game that day. I ain't never seen his ass
in the park since, though. That's it. I would've
walked off like that, too. I want that to be
my last performance.
That's how it says
the game was going out.
Yeah, I bust Joe Butt'n'Ass.
I'm out.
That's funny, though.
I'm never picking up
a ball again.
Yeah, but you got
a few of those stories.
Yeah.
Mike Thug put you on...
He ain't put me on skates.
We ain't gonna talk
about all this right now.
We gonna get off of basketball.
I don't even know
how we stayed on
basketball this long.
We talking about
the pool party.
We can get back to that.
Oh, shit.
More rules to the pool party. We can get back to that. Oh, shit. More rules to the pool party.
Should I say it?
I got a lot of rules.
Go ahead.
Hey, listen, ladies.
We not doing, you know,
not getting in the pool,
just standing around
and look cute thing
and snap pictures all day.
Yo, you know what I kind of want to do?
I ain't going to lie.
I kind of want it to be no phones, man.
It's got to be phones.
No, it's got to be phones.
Why?
I got kids, man.
I can't just put my phone away.
No, we can have a phone.
I'm talking about everybody else.
I think it should be no phones.
I kind of want to see how people just interact with each other, man.
I don't want it to be clicks here, there, there.
Yo, everybody fuck with everybody.
Does everybody have conversations?
No phones, fuck that.
We ain't going to sit on IG Live all day.
We're not going to sit on Snap all day.
We're not going to do that.
I think you look stupid doing that at the pool party.
The pool party was never that.
What?
Where you just sit around and do that all day.
Now, granted, there's a lot more capability now.
That's what I'm saying.
And I feel like I was live streaming back then
Yeah but that's what I'm saying
And I feel like now
It'll be like out of control
It's gonna be like
The service is shitty
In his backyard
And the wifi
Don't really reach anywhere
Yeah you're gonna be
Looking kinda nuts
Chicks come with their own
You ain't know
These IG hoes
Got their own hotspots
Y'all ain't know
IG hoes come with hotspots
No the IG hoes
Are the hotspots
That's what I'm saying
They come with the hotspots
So if I pull my Wi-Fi up,
I'll see her at me.
Stand next to an IG model
and see how much Wi-Fi you get.
Unbelievable.
That's funny.
I'm dead serious.
They're going to have
their own hotspot.
I'm good.
I don't need the password
for the Wi-Fi.
I think there's going to be
entirely too many activities
to partake in.
I think it's going to be
too many funny people,
too many great personalities.
D-Nice is DJing.
I would love to see you be glued to your phone while D-Nice is DJing. I would love to see you be glued to your phone while D-Nice
is DJing. I do. That means nothing to
a girl that's
there just to get her pictures off.
And hashtag. Well, why do we let
them in?
Because they look good. Oh, please.
Be done.
Shot some shit up and got them
out of here. No, we want females.
Don't let sin scare the ladies away.
No, I'm not talking about females, but the type of female y'all talking about.
I just want to have fun, man.
Don't start doing that shit you was doing in the jacuzzi that time with your friends.
Snitching.
Is this nigga snitching?
Mad snitching.
He told that story on this fucking podcast.
This shit is crazy.
No, I just want to have fun.
I want everybody to have fun, mingle, associate with each other.
It's going to be fun.
That's what I'm looking forward to.
Y'all get your rompers ready for the...
I have romper shit.
I don't know.
I don't get it.
That's crazy.
I don't understand.
They really are pushing this feminine agenda on men.
Tell me about this.
I don't know how it started But romper Male rompers
Are now the new thing
For the summer
And Twitter had a lot to say
What is a romper?
It's like a one piece
Where you have to take
The whole thing off to piss
That sound like a K7 song
A romper
Yeah
You gotta take the whole thing off
So it's like a one suit
Like a one piece
Yeah but it's shorts
And it's connected to the top
A Russell Westbrook
Cam Newton type shit.
Yeah, Cam Newton, I think wore one because his picture was all over the time.
Okay, so why is this such a big deal today?
You know, it's Twitter.
I guess they trying to force that as the new fashion trend for the summer for men, I guess.
Women also keep telling us where our G-spot is located.
We don't listen to that either.
Right.
I'm just saying.
Why do we care about what women have to say about what we wear?
That's just what they're
pushing right now
on social media.
Listen, I just got hip
to sweatpants
that fit properly.
I'm not about to put me
in a fucking room.
What are you talking about here?
I think I'm going to bring
jean shorts back, yo.
They not going to back.
They left?
Yes, they left.
When?
They're gone.
What year was it?
I know it was funny for a while.
No, it wasn't that long. Has it been? You're bugging Roy was it? I know it was funny for a while 2006 No it wasn't that long Has it been?
You're bugging Rory
Alright 2009
10 they was out of here
That sounds about right
That sounds about right
We should bring them back
What replaced them?
I still have mine
I didn't know
I didn't get the memo
I have like four pairs
I should have known it was over
Because they was trues
You would have true religion jeans shorts
That's funny
Yo there was a whole span of time
Where it was Trues
Yeah Trues was the game
That was a while ago
It was a while ago man
It was
But I did like those
True religion jean shorts
Because they were soft
Yeah soft denim jean shorts
Yeah they were soft
Soft denim jean
Yeah
So how can that ever be whack to me I'm not talking about like The hard dungaree jean shorts are not bad. Yeah, it was soft denim jean. Yeah. So how can that ever be whack to me?
I'm not talking about like the hard dungaree jean shorts.
But whatever, I get it.
I think we should bring jean shorts back.
With the color on the pockets?
I thought camouflage shorts was like out.
Nah, that's over with.
Oh, look at Rory.
Those were still talking.
I'm not in the short game.
I don't know.
You wear some, you're going to know how unpopular if you wear some jean shorts to the pool park.
No, no, not jean shorts.
I mean some fatigue shorts to the pool party No no not jean shorts Some fatigue
Shorts to the pool party
Wait alright
I'ma give you bars all day
When did cargo shorts
And foams go out
Like three years ago
Foams went out
When they started
Too many colors
Yeah they started going crazy
Yeah with the colors
That was kinda cool
I started seeing
Master P
Master P foams
It was all types of shit
I seen fruity pebble foams
I ain't know what the fuck
It was like 2011
There was the white v-neck
Cargo shorts
And foams
Was like
The outfit
Once the niggas started
Putting out just
The galaxy foams
Yeah
And now you're just gonna
Really my nigga
You're just gonna
Plaster the universe
On the side of the foam
I'm supposed to go
Crashing the waiting line
For this
You're gonna raffle this off
Yeah they went crazy
Sorry Nike
They went foam crazy
Sorry Phil
Yeah they went foam crazy
Yeah it's over
Brandon is the only person I know still wearing foams.
Brandon definitely has some foams on right now.
No, Brandon's looking for foams right now.
What the noose just dropped.
He the only one on Foamposite.com.
Brandon's at KISS right now.
Foamposite.com.
Forward slash Brandon.
He got a username?
Yes.
It's in sight. He got? Yes. It's in sight.
He got a login.
It's in sight.
He created the site.
All right, so we're off of phone pauses.
What were we talking about?
The pool party.
That was real funny.
All right, back to the pool party.
Big girls, it's a one burger maximum.
Stay away from the grill.
What's wrong with this nigga, man?
Stay away from the grill.
No, I'm just playing.
No, the big joints can't get that
Nah
Big girls gotta defy them
Yo
See
See what I'm saying
Why you always gotta play games man
Why
Why
Don't ask me no questions
Why
I just wanna know
Why you play a game
I'm done with him
I'm done with him
Wait
I can't announce the games
At the pool party
Yeah Maul is hosting speed dating I am hosting speed dating I thought we announced that I can't announce the games at the pool party?
yeah Maul is hosting speed dating
I am hosting speed dating
I thought we announced that
well let's talk about it again
do you have your questions ready?
not yet
but I will
I will
you know I'm gonna have some
I'm gonna have some
fire questions
I'm gonna get somebody laid that night
I look forward to seeing
seeing people
Sin said no one can spend the night
Sin got me twisted
I was gonna say
Sin don't run shit I'm going right up to the same room I'm the night Sin got me twisted I was gonna say Sin don't run shit
I'm going right up to the same room
Sin got me all twisted
I'm always sleeping
No fucking shots with me
Okay
Shut up
That's such a lie
I was gonna let you get that off
Nah I'm not letting him get it off
I tried to mumble it
Nah fuck that
I will definitely be spending the night
Cause night pool gonna be lit
Is it?
Nigga, yes.
Whether you there or not.
Oh, listen, we ain't talking about shit.
I'm not fucking with y'all.
But we have gotten some really good feedback, though.
Yeah.
As far as the people that have been in attendance.
A bunch of people have been hitting my phone.
And I'm just like, damn.
Yeah, niggas ain't showing up.
People I ain't spoken to in years been hitting me up. Yo, so do y'all want to get into, Been hitting my phone And I'm just like Damn Yeah no niggas Can't come showing up In their phone closet
People I ain't spoken to
In years been hitting me up
Yo so do y'all wanna get into
I was talking about this
Earlier with Rory
He didn't seem like
He gave a fuck
This Steve Harvey email
I thought it was pretty funny
Only cause I identify
With that type of language
I didn't hear
Well I didn't read it
Cause I didn't even know about it
When you told me about it
That's wild
That was kinda like a big thing
Alright so apparently
Steve Harvey's a real nigga.
Steve Harvey, who just got promoted or he got his own show, The Steve Harvey Show, or some shit.
It's in L.A.
He used to film his old show in Chicago, right?
So he's leaving.
He's going to L.A.
Apparently, a lot of his old employees are very angry and upset with him.
So they're doing all they can to tarnish his image.
So they released this letter that they say he wrote before this season of his show started that says,
Good morning.
Why are y'all laughing?
That's just funny.
The way you just read it, he says, good morning.
Go ahead.
Good morning, everyone.
Welcome back. He says, good morning. Go ahead. Good morning, everyone.
Welcome back.
I'd like you all to review and adhere to the following rules and notes for season five of my talk show.
This nigga's ill.
There will be no meetings in my dressing room.
No stopping by or popping in.
No one.
I'm on board already.
No one.
I don't see the problem there.
No one.
So we clear. Please, I'm going to stop.
Do not come to my dressing room unless invited.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a fact.
Do not.
Do not open my dressing room door. Now, that's funny fact. Do not, Jamal, do not open my dressing room door.
Now that's funny, that's funny.
If, in caps, if you open my door, expect to be removed.
Wait, there's more, there's more, wait, look.
Expect to be removed.
My security team, wait, my security team will stop everyone from standing at my door who have the intent to see or
speak to me. So he don't want, he not fucking with nobody. I want all the ambushing to stop now.
That includes TV staff. You must schedule an appointment. I have been taken advantage of by
my lenient policy in the past. This ends now. No more. Do not approach me while I'm in the makeup Wait, he has a doorbell on his dressing room?
Yeah, nigga.
Steve.
Steve is ill.
It's Steve.
Steve's ill.
I'm seeking more free time for me throughout the day.
Do not wait in any hallway to speak to me.
I hate being ambushed. I hate being ambushed.
I hate being ambushed.
Please make an appointment.
I promise you.
I will not entertain you in the hallway.
Steve is ill.
I will not entertain you in the hallway.
And do not attempt to walk with me.
Yo. Steve sound like he fed the fuck up.
And do not attempt to walk with me.
If you're reading this, yes, I mean you.
Everyone, do not take offense to the new way of doing business.
It is for the good of my personal life and enjoyment.
Thank you all.
Steve Harvey.
That sounds like it was written by you.
I could see you
writing some shit like that.
See, that's how I know
I'm a little off mall.
Because I read that letter
and didn't see
anything wrong
with anything he said.
Yeah, no.
I know.
I know you don't.
Wait, so then,
so the employees,
so they put this letter out
to like tarnish his image
and shit.
And Steve was like,
nah,
I wrote that. That's my letter. I meant every word of and shit. And Steve was like, nah, I wrote that.
That's my letter.
I meant every word of that shit.
Sent it to my new show, too.
Yeah, I just thought that was rather real.
Oh, while I'm at it.
No, I'm not even reading that.
I'm not even reading that.
K. Michelle put out the rules to her restaurant that she opened.
And it was written by her, I think.
And it was trying to be cool and fresh.
But nah. I would report on this black youngster story her, I think, and it was trying to be cool and fresh, but nah.
I would report on this
black youngster story,
but I don't know it.
I don't know enough
about anybody involved.
And I heard something
about 100 gunshots,
which means I'm clocking
out of this one.
Sounds dangerous.
Sorry.
Best of luck to both parties.
Yeah, woo!
At 37,
that's signing up for that one.
Right.
Let's see what else.
I don't even know why that was funny.
Do we want to talk about Monique?
Oprah?
Monique versus Oprah and Tyler Perry and Lee Daniels.
That sounds interesting.
I didn't hear about it, but it sounds interesting.
Okay, so this is where I plug the aux up to the phone.
Monique was doing a stand-up show.
She claims that she has been blackballed.
By Oprah, Talia Flair, and Lee Daniels.
I was that black dick connected to that black man.
So no, I was not blackballed.
I was whiteballed.
By some black dicks who had no balls.
Thank you, Mr. Lee Daniels.
Thank you, Mr. Kyle Perry.
Thank you, Mr. Oprah Winfrey.
No, baby, I wasn't blackballed.
I was fucked up by some niggas who had no balls.
And see, I know they like to say,
Monique, you talk too motherfucking much.
It would kill me not to say the real shit.
All right.
I had enough of that.
But, yeah, that's what she's saying.
Do we care?
Y'all don't care.
Has she been in any Tyler Perry movies?
I think Monique kind of fell out of the rotation when she got on her.
Because her whole thing, her whole career was be big, be proud.
You know, I'm a big girl.
That was kind of her funny thing. So, as soon as she started losing weight, be proud. You know, I'm a big girl. That was kind of how funny things were.
As soon as she started losing weight, it was kind of like, oh, you got it.
Well, she was trying to make the transition from the comedian that joked about weight.
And it didn't work.
To actual talk show shit.
Yeah, you can't do that.
We already had Jennifer Hudson.
It didn't work.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, you, that was just, that was crazy.
That was just staple.
We're not just letting all these big girls get skinny.
Yeah, it was like, yo, that was just, that was just feel your whole career.
It's like, now you want to be skinny?
That's fucked up.
I love Jennifer Hudson too, but the jokes must fly.
Yeah, the jokes must fly.
The jokes must fly.
Well, that was stand up too.
It's jokes.
She didn't necessarily mean it, maybe.
Unless did she retract her statements afterwards?
Did she have to apologize for her jokes?
Who?
No, she didn't apologize.
Actually, today a story went out of her saying, yeah, I said that shit.
You know what I'm telling you, man?
I'm telling you, keeping it a buck is coming back.
Are you leading the charge, Chief?
I'm not going to say I'm leading the charge, but thank you for finally saluting me properly.
It's been all day.
Are you chief keeping it a buck?
No, Maul.
I'm not chief keeping it a buck.
What kind of hat is this that you have on?
It's called colorblind.
Yo, this nigga is getting some sponsored bags, man.
Word.
God damn it.
Because he got the straight on camera angle
so he can get the hat plugged off.
No, this This BJ line
BJ
And it is a dope hat
I can't get shit
I was gonna say
You don't wear dad hats
You don't wear snaps
Yeah no I don't wear dad hats
We gonna make a fit
Is there one that's not orange
Cause I'm too orange already
Yeah
Like adding more orange
Is tough
It's called color blind
Got all colors man
Dad hats are only cool
If you're like not a dad
Honestly
What You can't be a're not a dad. Man. Honestly.
What?
You can't be a dad in a dad hat.
Why not? I'm pretty sure dad's wear dad hats.
Where?
That's where it comes from.
Show it to me.
Okay.
What's going on today?
Did y'all hear this story here about,
all right, so everybody's doing stupid shit.
This nigga's just stupid.
A Memphis musician dying after setting himself
on fire on Facebook.
I'm not talking about you.
Fuck out of here.
Chili is all lives matter.
Do we care about that?
It hurts because Chili
was my first crush ever.
I knew Usher was right.
I stuck up Usher.
The Confessions album
makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're looking funny
in the light, Chili.
You in land logic.
I never... Yo, where's the album TLC promised us? Bunny in LA Chili, you in Land Logic.
Yo, where's the album TLC promised us?
Relax, man.
Come on, man.
Come on.
Really, Joe?
We donated to the budget.
Are you serious?
Y'all ain't shit, man. You know what?
L.A. Reid probably had them under a contract.
Hey, listen, bro.
Listen.
I think this might come full circle.
These jokes right themselves
I think L.A. Reid
Still had them signed
Yo
They gonna shoot me
And it's gonna be
Because of something
Y'all said
Oh yeah us
All the things you say
I could just see it
Alright let's see
Rosewood was cancelled
Who gives a fuck there
Oh
Now here's a really good story
This was a real good story.
Warner Music cuts new deal with YouTube,
and they're not very pleased with the terms.
This is a great story on Forbes,
and I'll give you just the cliff note version yet again
because for me, information is power.
And if you if you are in the music business or have dreams and aspirations of being in the music business, I think it's important to be well informed.
This reads all of the major labels have been out of contract and on a month to month basis in their licensing agreements with YouTube for some time now. But the first domino has fallen as Warner Music Group reported that it's just completed a
new deal with the video service. Even though no terms were announced, it's easy to read between
the lines of the announcement to see that Warner Music didn't get much of what it wanted. All right. This goes on to say, ooh, yeah, right here.
All right.
This goes on to say,
indeed, the music industry
isn't very happy
with YouTube's royalty payouts,
but it's between a rock
and a hard place
when it comes to changing it.
Should a label refuse
to license its catalog
to the service,
its music will still appear on it thanks to the fact that the user-generated content featuring that music will still be posted
the problem here is that instead of a below industry average payout there would be no payout
at all since the label wouldn't be able to monetize those user videos as it does now. YouTube is completely shielded from any threat of copyright violation.
Thanks to the DC DMCA law that labels user content,
uh,
air quotes,
safe Harbor for which YouTube is not responsible.
This was all,
I mean,
I guess I knew this,
right?
But to hear it this way now about,
about the best Warner music could do was go for a
deal with a short duration our new deals are also shorter than usual giving a bottom line it says
youtube is running the show even in negotiations we already knew that anybody that's doing all that
licensing shit they are running the show i'm not going gonna correlate this back to Apple We don't have the time for that But
That's the era that we're in
The
Content is the new record deal
Right
And
Music
I mean
Again
Niggas is not getting paid
The labels are not getting paid
So
How much money is getting
Getting
Funneled to the axe
Next five years.
Just remember I said it.
Well, I've been saying it.
Yeah, I will say that.
You have been one of the artists for years that have been pushing the Internet
and the power of the Internet and where it was headed with music.
Yeah, they swallowing all of this shit.
I just thought that that was great.
There's a story saying that Chris Rock thinks.
I hate that all the stories I get now are fucking half-argued and it complex at some point Chris Rock things did that Kanye album is the best album ever made
Oh, yeah, well we it's funny. We had that debate like what two years ago. Yeah, we got that shit well before it got trendy
Oh my beautiful. Yeah, my beautiful dog twist another la reed project might I add um
Joe
What?
It was every project. He is is he serious i mean he was there he was the head of
def jam he was there la reed project yes he i think he was in creative control as well yeah i bet
he was in hawaii yeah on the MPC might I add Yeah I bet
Yeah I brought that
To your attention
Years ago
That I thought
You could make a case
That My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Is the greatest hip hop album
Of all time
It is nowhere near my favorite
But
If you go track by track
I think
You could make a case
That it's the greatest
Hip hop album of all time
I will give you your credit
You did say that
I said that before
It became trendy
But I don't before it became trendy.
I don't think it's trendy to say now.
Well, it's been in conversation.
Amongst whom?
I mean, you do a show on Complex.
I was trying to give credit that it was in conversation,
but never mind.
Fuck your show.
No, fuck that show right this second.
No, it was on Twitter after Chris Rock said it. It was a pretty big subject on Twitter
that My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
was a classic
it was during that
little classic
even in our argument
even in mine
and your argument
years ago
which I refuted
everything you said
but the one thing
that did sound like
it made some sense
was
you don't even remember
that argument
yes I do
and now he refuted
every point
it was me and Dill
in my old living room
no it was me and Corey
Dill was not there
Oh, Corey
Yeah
Same shoulders
No, but
The point eventually led to
That album might be
One of the best produced albums
I think
I think you don't see it
One, because
You gotta give it some time
Because the rollout was so terrible We heard the whole album Before it ever because You gotta give it some time Because the rollout
Was so terrible
We heard the whole album
Before it ever came out
Like it was bits and pieces
Incomplete
It just wasn't
A good rollout
Everyone was over the album
When it came out
Because we had heard everything
And
It was just a mess
The way it came out
Does that mean the rollout
Was bad or great?
It was terrible
Everything was leaked
I like that rollout
A little bit Well I mean that rollout a little bit.
Well, I mean, Kanye always has creative ones.
They made the best of it.
Yeah.
But I think the album is almost too perfect.
Like, it's too polished.
It's too great.
Rory's generation really thinks highly of that album.
I'm sitting here trying to think.
That album didn't really...
I mean, it was a good album, but it didn't...
Niggas our age feel like that.
I can't remember the last time I listened to any song on that album.
Like, I really can't.
To me, it's like a James Cameron movie.
Like, it's a Terminator movie.
It has so much money behind it.
Like, in the production value, it was amazing.
No, I get that.
It's like too polished.
I don't know if there's...
I get that, yeah.
I think, of course, with Blame Game has a lot of emotion on it.
But a lot of it is just great production and great raps and a lot of great features.
It's just too perfect.
That's why I think it went over people.
Like, that's why I don't like the Bruno Mars album.
It's too polished.
It didn't have any feeling to me.
It was overproduced.
And I think that's where people in your age bracket don't like that album.
But I like it.
I'm sorry. Not don't like it, but don't give that album. But I like it. I'm sorry.
Not don't like it,
but don't give it
the credit that's due there.
Do we think that that's better?
I give it the credit it's due.
Is it better than
college dropout,
graduation?
Is it like...
Not to me,
but if you were to put it
track for track,
it would.
It's back to the example
of Michael being the greatest basketball player, but he's not my favorite basketball player. If you put to put it track for track, it would. It's back to the example of Michael being the greatest basketball player,
but he's not my favorite basketball player.
If you put the stats up, I just feel like track for track, music-wise,
I don't know what it did with sales, or it didn't really have that much impact either,
but I just think track for track could be considered one of the better hip-hop albums ever.
How if it's not even his fucking top two album or top three to me but i understand
other people saying saying differently so i mean that's just to me but how if that's not even a top
two album from him we could at least agree on that right it's funny i was over the weekend listening
to kyle's dropout and how it aged to me because i was 14 it was like the most amazing thing ever
but i feel like a kid going back
and listening to College Dropout
versus My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
blows it out of the water.
Not even remotely close.
But you know how the production value...
But you just started that by saying a kid.
I'm agreeing with you if we're talking about a kid.
Pulling to another point of where people rank that.
I listened to College Dropout the other day
and that shit sound even more amazing to me
and then I said
yep
that's how a classic should be
College Dropout is 100% a classic
but you know how it is
being an artist Joe
certain shit that you create
is more
it'll always be your favorite
for different reasons
versus the fans
that listen to it
okay time out
College Dropout changed
to hip hop
I agree I'm agreeing with you with that so it's like Listen to it. Okay, time out. College Dropout changed hip-hop.
I agree.
I'm agreeing with you with that.
So it's like, it's not that that's why that's my favorite,
but that classic did so much.
I can't just roll with My Beautiful Daughter, Twisted Fantasy.
Wow, it was a good album. It was a great, amazing album.
I'm not saying with where it should be
as far as impact
because it didn't have that
and all the factors
you put into a classic
but I think
if you literally
go song by song
that it's flawless
like there's no
weak points
in that album
no not at all
it's phenomenal
so
now Rory didn't see that
oh man
now Rory
we didn't even talk about that
do we have to care about that
I keep seeing people talk about that real Housewives of Atlanta fight with Homeboy.
The muscle-bound nigga who fought the old nigga with the gray beard.
I don't watch that show, so I don't know anything about it.
I do know what you're talking about.
But I've seen these two names enough, and the big nigga damn near lost the fight to the 57-year-old guy.
Nobody cares.
What do y'all do during the week?
We don't watch real Housewives of Atlanta.
Definitely not watching Real Housewives of Atlanta.
Me neither.
So why are you so-
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
I see what's going on.
Yeah, we out here getting money.
Everybody's simmered down.
What's going on?
Simmered down, though.
Don't try to do what y'all just did.
What?
Don't do that again, Maul.
I don't even know what you're talking about.
I know.
Don't do that, though.
Don't try to paint me in that fucking Real Housewives of Atlanta corner.
No, no, that's not what I was doing.
I'm just saying.
Yeah, but it seemed that way.
You looked a little puzzled as to why I don't have no idea what you're talking about.
No, I was about to.
If we were puzzled, is that what you did?
No, I was about to be defensive and protect myself because my feelings were hurt because
my friends were coming at me.
I wasn't coming at you.
I wouldn't.
But you do watch a lot of TV, though.
That's not true.
You do.
I don't even watch TV.
Maybe not reality, but you're a movie miniseries guy.
That's what you do.
You're talking about a TV show every day.
Okay, wait.
You don't watch reality television.
That's not fair.
TV today is easier to watch.
You can watch it from anywhere.
Okay, that may be true.
I'm not watching cable programming anymore, really.
No, but you watch a lot of shows.
You watch a lot of movies.
American Greed is my new show.
I'm stuck on it.
Yeah, you're that guy.
I normally watch Channel ID.
If somebody is dying on the show,
I'm watching it.
And trying to figure out why.
And trying to solve it, yes,
before the TV show tells me.
100%.
I've seen you do that.
I think there's a lot of people doing that.
I've seen you do that for like six days straight, though.
I was worried about that.
Like, Channel ID, this nigga bought about 20 tubs of vanilla Haagen-Dazs ice cream and locked himself in a room. There's a lot of people doing that I've seen you do that For like six days straight though I was worried about that Like channel ID
This nigga bought about
20 tubs of vanilla
Haagen-Dazs ice cream
And locked himself in the room
Has been sitting in style
For 48 hours
I'm like though
What the fuck
I'm like did you figure it out
He's like yep
I got his ass
I was like yeah
I'm in the wrong decade
I have to help this nigga
This nigga's crazy
Y'all niggas is haters
Alright so what else
Is happening
Nothing I'm trying to find the list It's over Forbes put out The same wealthiest Hip hop artist This nigga's crazy. Y'all niggas is haters. All right, so what else is happening? Nothing?
I'm trying to find the list.
It's over?
Forbes put out the same wealthiest hip-hop artist of 2017 that they put out every year.
I don't care.
It's always Puff and Hov.
Right.
As it should be.
They just flip positions.
Oh, I'm definitely watching the Bill Cosby special on Channel ID that's coming up, though.
Oh, yeah, they got Bill looking nuts in the streets.
Well, not dumb, but Bill.
Oh, the BET Award nominations.
Let me look those up.
How do we feel about that?
I only know Cardi, and I'm extremely happy.
I'm happy, too.
I only know Cardi and Chance.
I didn't read up on what everyone else is doing.
I want to support And root for the people
That I know
That are nominated
Everyone else
Good luck to you
Who's nominated?
Young M.A. what?
I don't know
The BET Awards
Are like a dope
High school talent show
Damn
A very well produced
High school
That's what we're doing now
Remember the high school
Talent shows?
Kiss my BET award goodbye
Y'all remember that?
Of course.
Winner of Rage in the Manolo.
You performed at a talent show before?
No, I didn't.
He got kicked off the track team.
How do you think he was doing in a fucking talent show?
He couldn't run right.
What are you going to do in a talent show?
I couldn't run right.
I couldn't run right.
That's another debate we had that we should have on this podcast.
What?
Our college debate that we had on Sunday.
You are.
Do you want?
What's the college debate?
Do it.
Tell them all right now.
No, no.
Tell them all right now.
Give me a case.
This was your case.
See, look.
I defended the other side.
All right,
so then what was I saying?
Remind me.
Help me.
I want to say
along the lines
of college being pointless.
Yes.
That's exactly what I said.
I said I think that college
along with
the medicine field
two of the biggest scams
in the country.
I said if my child
came to me
and said
I have no desire
to go to college
I could understand. And they came to me and said, I have no desire to go to college.
I could understand.
That part I didn't disagree with.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I said, I know so many people who went to college and they left with a piece of paper and debt that is going to take them quite some time to get out of,
and it didn't guarantee them the job that they thought they would.
And then I can tell you the flip side of that, and I get it that I maybe beat the odds,
but I can tell you about a lot of people that did.
So I'm going to always argue for the creative side.
Rory is part of, I don't know anything about the, you know, I don't want to be offensive to that type of group shit.
So Rory argues the college life.
He's adamant.
He's in favor of college.
His argument to me was you pay for the experience.
Can I give my?
Oh, I'm sorry.
I was first trying to explain to him, and then, of course, it just turned into a debate and argument. I was trying to explain to Joe that his view of college may be that you're really going there to learn.
You're supposed to sit in class and get more knowledge, more or less, I think he was saying.
But you're paying for the network.
You're paying to be around like-minded people.
You're paying to be around like-minded people.
If I'm coming from a very negative area, a neighborhood, 18 to 22, I think, is one of the biggest forks in the road for anyone in life.
I think a lot of decisions that are made at 18 decide your entire life.
So when you're leaving a negative area where people may not have ambition, I hate that word, but something along those lines of positivity, going to college and getting yourself out of a negative environment and putting yourself in a positive
one with a bunch of people that have goals to move forward is a great decision to make.
That's the biggest crock of shit I ever heard.
Why is that a crock of shit?
That's the biggest crock.
Because first of all, you introduced taking someone out of bad place.
Why are we in a bad place?
Why do we start?
That was our original argument.
No, I was saying then that you were introducing that.
Why am I starting at a bad place?
The bad place to me is when I get to the debt.
And you're telling me I need the debt
to get this piece of paper that you're telling me
will give me an advantage in the working field.
I don't think that that's the America we live in anymore.
Sorry.
I think college systematically is a scam that you are now required
because a lot of jobs won't hire you without a degree.
But I'm saying that if you are in any space at 18, you can go two ways.
It's very easy to go negative 18.
Let me put myself where all the positive people are.
Yo, I didn't know anything about—
There's a lot of negative people in college. Yeah, I don't know
where he gets that from.
You pick up drugs in college.
He got kicked out of college.
You pick up drugs in college. You pick up, you know, a lot of
There's a lot of idiots in college.
So there's no drugs outside of college?
I'm not saying it's not.
It's the same thing. It's even.
So I don't even think it's a point. No, but you made it seem like college
was the safe haven where it's going to keep all of that. It's safer in thing. It's even. So I don't even think it's a point. No, but you made it seem like college was this safe haven where it's going to keep all that.
Yeah.
It's safer.
No, no.
In a lot of instances.
Nigga didn't say that.
You're on your own.
You can be miles away from your parents.
You know what I mean?
Also a great way to develop into an adult.
Yeah, but you can also develop into a lot of negative things, too, that are going to college.
I know cats that went to college.
Any situation.
My thing is I don't base success on education. I'm not either, I know. But you can do that with any situation. My thing is I don't base success on education.
I'm not either, right here.
Like, I don't think you have to have the greatest education to be successful.
I think that college is.
I mean, it helps, but I think that college is more so, you know, like I do agree.
It does put you kind of behind the eight ball because you come out, you are in debt.
You're probably going to get a job at an entry level position, any job that you get.
You know what I mean? And work your way up, but you're still working your way out of debt it my thing is you i don't even know and i hate to take this here i like trade schools i like going to do
something that you know what you want to do but here's the thing a lot of 18 year olds don't
and you get four years or at least two two and a half to play with passions and try to figure out
what you like and what you don't like find yourself when you're when you're 18 oh let me let me finish when you're 18 and you're not
going to college you got to find a job most likely you're gonna have some bills to pay i'd imagine if
you don't have the luxury of staying with your parents you don't have time to play with your
your passions as much as someone that's in college who's paying a lot of money which puts you in debt
but that's giving you the luxury to figure out what I want to do.
There's a lot of opportunities.
I didn't know what the fuck an internship was until I went to college.
My mans was interning at Def Jam.
I said, wait, you could do what?
You could just be in college and go just be there and help out?
Yeah.
I would have never known about that.
And I could have never done that without college.
I hate to be the woke guy here but black men are already at a huge disadvantage in the working place of
course current infrastructure so your experience and your views coming out of college and how you
handle debt and how you're accepted into this society and how somebody like me would have went
to college and then came out and handled having debt
and being accepted into the working class society
is not the same thing.
I really don't even think you could argue the point that I'm making.
I'm saying that I'm going to always argue for the creators.
I think if you really want to get to the money,
get an idea.
Get an idea.
And I don't need to be in college to get an idea.
Don't tell me about the business marketing and the course you took just to fill up some fucking credits.
Don't tell me about that.
Don't tell me about that.
Don't tell me about it.
If you crave information and you inquisitive, you can go get it.
A nigga not going to know I dropped out in the 10th grade unless I tell it to him.
Know why?
I like information.
I didn't need to pay somebody to go get that.
By 19, I was on to the money.
By 20, I was on to the money. By 20, I was on to the money.
By 21, I was on to the money. I'm on
to the money. I'm not owing.
Joe, no one, well,
you would owe your label, but... Yeah, like
an idiot. I should have went to college.
I should have got a business. I should have went to college
so I could have fucking understood what was going on.
But not, of course,
what we spoke about then, and you kind of brought it up in your point,
not everyone is a talented rapper.
I know, Roy.
That's a tough thing to say.
I know, Roy.
But this is the era where you see so many creatives.
This is the creative generation.
Yeah, I think that's my thing.
I think now is when the creatives are running the world.
In the next five to ten years?
Yeah, this is the creative generation.
You can do anything now.
I will say now, of course.
I mean, always, but now more than ever, it's in your face.
It is less important than it was five years ago.
Much absolutely. Which I think is great because I'm not here. I'm not being pro college here.
I'm just saying there is a good aspect of being around that like minded individuals.
Absolutely. But of course, there's a lot of shitty people. I might go join a gang then.
It's a bunch of like minded individuals there. But we don't want to do that.
I'm just saying it's all types of different places
Yeah, no, I get what you're saying though
I understand what you're saying
Cops, everybody can say that
Every group can say that
That's why I don't like that
That's the thing, bro
It is a flip side to college too
You can pick up a lot of negative shit
Of course
Because there are a lot of negative kids in college
Absolutely
That can't wait to do negative shit once they get away from their parents
Yes, but I will say in that environment, there's a lot of positivity.
It is.
I agree.
And there's negative shit everywhere.
Yeah, I agree.
And there's not positive shit everywhere.
You just dropped that line on me.
There's negative shit everywhere.
There is.
That's so cliche.
Well, that's what you're saying there is in college.
You're using that line.
You're better than that line.
There's no negative shit in this room, though.
Hell yeah.
Joe is right across from me.
I am negative, so that's true.
I felt like there was so much to cover, and then I just stopped giving a fuck.
Really?
What else?
I thought it was.
Well, when y'all don't care about shit, I don't really care about shit either.
No, I think we kind of covered everything, though.
I could be wrong.
Nothing funny happening in the music
Bryson Tiller's new record
There you go Tiller
Damn he gets a growl
After you shitted on my
Bryson Tiller's Sleeper last week
That shit was trash
I know
That beat was hard
The record is a good record
It probably is a good record
In flow of the album
No I think that was
Someone else's record
That Tiller was featured on
Yeah His name was One Take Timmy You missed that part Oh Oh okay in flow of the album. No, I think that was someone else's record that Tiller was featured on. Yeah.
His name was
One Take Timmy.
You missed that part.
Oh.
Oh, okay.
So that's why I'm judging it that way.
I thought that was a Tiller record.
So I'm judging it on a Tiller curve.
I missed that whole part.
I apologize.
Yeah.
It was cool.
Oh, now that record is on.
Now.
So when people say
Tiller put out three records,
I thought that was one of them.
So what's the other two records?
It's a Young Thug record,
one other one, and then the one I liked? It's a Young Thug record One other one
And then the one I liked
Oh I'm not doing all that
Alright so he's
Something tell me
Alright he's still not
Out of the park yet more
That's a lot of features
How do you go from no features
To a lot of features?
You got one
There's one feature
There was one feature
Out of those three
Some more features coming
Of course there is
That might be the name of the album
More features
I doubt that
I like the Something Tells Me song
A lot
I like that record
He definitely stayed
In the pocket of Trap Soul
Yeah I think he has to
At this point
I don't want
I think that's what the people want
I don't know if he should be
Deviating from that too much
Rory
I think the people want
The Trap Soul
I think he tried to
And that's kind of where
The hole up came in
No I wasn't suggesting
That he shouldn't
I think he should stay
With what works for him
Right
But eventually
He's gonna have to change
A little bit
To show his artistry
You can't give
Five trapped souls
Isn't gonna work
Why is he gonna have to change
Why
Why is it not gonna work
New niggas love
If you're trying to be
A top tier artist
Yeah you have to show
Some development in your sound
Isn't he already
A top tier artist
You saying if you're
Trying to grow it
Yeah
That's my opinion
I think he could sneak
Another two more traps
Holden
Definitely
Shit the sound could change
How do y'all know that
Sounds change
Every so many years
That is true
That's true
So he's gotta adapt
He has the sound now
I just don't think
He needs to be sitting
Behind a piano
Singing a ballad anytime
I agree with you
100% on that
I don't need to hear
Don't do that
Please don't do that
But I think he's a
Very talented writer
So if you get the right Producers in there I think he. But I think he's a very talented writer, so if you get the right producers in there,
I think he can adapt.
I think he's staying with this sound
just because it's working so well.
I wouldn't change it.
Eventually, you're going to have to.
Bryson on every song,
well, not every song,
but on a few songs,
he always has a line or two
that is guaranteed to make me laugh
every single time I hear it.
Never fails like clockwork
So now in this new song that I love in the second verse when he starts talking about what his man meant male
Intuition starts telling him a topic that you love good
Brayson Brayson Brayson, man. What did he say? Let me help you out
How old is Bryson?
23 maybe all right. That's why What did he say? Let me help you out. How old is Bryson? 23, maybe.
All right, that's why.
24, 23.
Bryson, Bryson, Bryson.
Let me help you.
If your significant other finds a magnum on you, yes, you're going to have problems.
Why is he surprised?
Did y'all listen to that verse?
Yeah.
Man, where the fuck is the verse?
That might be my sleeper pick. Yeah, that should be your sleeper record. What is the verse That might be my sleeper pick Yeah that should be
Your sleeper record
What you mean that should be
My sleeper record
You should be
You're trying to get Tory mad at me
Fuck out of here
Why would Tory be mad at me
Wait you don't like Bryson?
I don't know
I'm just talking shit
Y'all gonna talk or something
Y'all just gonna read your phone
On the podcast
Oh no
I was trying to find a list
Of BET
Oh my god
It's not my fault You can't bring a song up in one second in 2017.
Shut up.
Let me get in this.
Hold up.
Hey.
What?
Stop with that whack-ass ad-lib.
I said wait a minute on everything, by the way.
I like that ad-lib.
A night try hate on my ad-lib.
Yeah.
What has your intuition been telling you?
He's pretty
Talk about it
Yes, Bryson
That is why she's upset
It's cause you're busy
Yo
You are the worst dude
That like dissect a bar
That's what I'm saying
You will make a verse sound
A line sound so terrible
Yes
Wait
Yes Bryson
He didn't just say that
We know what he said Joe
But damn
Listen
Drake has already bodied this.
Drake is the king of this.
It's like they used to say, you can't out drug deal,
hove, and push.
Just try something else.
If that's your thing, do something different.
I'm not mad at his song.
I like this a lot, but it's funny when I hear it.
But that wasn't even a line.
Oh.
My bad, don't know how to a line Oh He said he don't know
How to explain it
You are such a fucking asshole
Hey you two people
Pat
Anybody
Anybody
You two people
Anybody
Wait Bryson
I hate to break it to you
That's not intuition
That's not women's intuition at all
Right
That's just you fucking it up dogs
Right You can't go on tour and be busy
And then come back with a magnum in your pocket
And not expect a huge argument
I'm sorry, Bryson
That was in that way before we started dating
Did he do his laundry?
That's a Rory line right there
Wait, what was my line?
Rory is the worst liar to his girl
This nigga Bryson just said He just said that was in there way before us the worst liar to his girl. This is crazy.
This nigga Bryson
just said,
he just said,
that was in there
way before us.
Yeah.
I don't do laundry
that often.
Get it off.
Rory.
It might work.
Yeah,
you got to test the water
sometimes.
All right,
time out.
Sometimes you got to
quick temperature check
to see how bad
I can lie right here.
Time out.
This leads me to a question
for both of you gentlemen.
Really not Maul
because you have to be in a relationship at some point in your life see he can still lie to
his own you're not judging your girl if she fall for the easy lie how i mean did i sell it
how well did i sell it yeah yeah that's that's the key that's did i have conviction in my what
is wrong with y'all yeahall Cause some lies have worked for me
And I be like
I wait till I get along
I'm in the shower
I'm like that shit worked
No you ever
You ever know
A lie's not gonna work
And that shit work
And your whole body
Just like
Yeah
What the fuck
Do you know the intricate lengths
I have gone to
Back in my lying days
To lie
Let me tell a funny story
About a Joe lie.
Wait, wait, wait.
No, it's nothing.
Am I going to get in trouble?
No.
All right.
So we was all at the crib one night.
Who was we all?
So we ain't going to name no names, but we was playing Monopoly.
All right.
Right.
Sounds harmless.
So now niggas don't, niggas like, yo, this nigga Joe, his nigga ain't losing no bread.
How the fuck this nigga got all this money? Niggas go to bread how the fuck is nigga those money they just go to the bathroom good decision making they just go to the bathroom
y'all was playing monopoly yes because he keep he keep a whole stack stashed somewhere in the crib
that's what i'm about to tell you we go to the bathroom ain't no more toilet tissue so you don't
naturally look under the sink this nigga got a whole plastic bag full of new Monopoly money.
You know how sick you got to be to go buy a new bag of Monopoly money and say,
I'm going to stash this around the house?
Oh, wait.
See, that just reminded me of one of my legendary malls, Why You A Legend, man.
Here we go.
Look how fast.
See, whenever I tell a story About Joe
He wanna come back
Go ahead
No you know why
Cause my memory is bad
Okay
So I don't remember
Anything about any of y'all
Okay
I just wake up every day
And I know we friends
You might need help
Y'all are stored in my phone
So we just kick it
Right
We see each other Tuesdays
We rock right
But remember fucking
We ain't gonna name the name but there was somebody
who flew into town right and they had a friend who appeared to be like a supermodel oh yeah yeah
like she was like six nine she was that tall and flats right that chick's skin looked like it was made fresh out of leather.
She was all right.
And she liked Maul.
Wait a minute, mother.
Don't just say that like that's a total surprise.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
No, but I mean she was really on Maul.
Yeah, nigga.
I was so amazed.
Fuck you.
That ain't nothing to be amazed about.
What the fuck do you mean he was amazed?
Nah, she was nice.
I've seen Maul do some legendary shit, man.
Where is she?
I don't know.
This nigga Maul would...
She found a condom in his pocket.
Maul would be the man for a day,
and then the chick would hate that nigga.
So I don't know what would be...
The man for a day is crazy.
I don't know what would go on after that.
Chicks ain't fucking with Maul.
All right.
I'm done.
I'm done.
Chicks ain't fucking with Maul.
Chicks ain't fucking with Maul. I'm done I'm done I'm done Chicks ain't fucking with mall Chicks ain't fucking with mall
I'm done with Brayson
Wait how did you go
From that to fucking
I'm done with Brayson man
I just don't know
How you leave a condom
This song is hard
You can't leave a fucking
Magnum in your
That's wild
No
Yeah niggas
Niggas ain't doing that no more
What using condoms
I agree
I'm done with that
Here's a random
Whoa wait What happened Wait what Wait Rory's being nasty again Yeah Niggas ain't doing that no more. What, using condoms? I agree. I'm done with that. Here's a random.
Whoa, wait.
What happened?
Wait, what?
Wait, Rory's being nasty again?
Yeah.
Irish nasty.
Irish nasty.
That should be your, like, your.
Irish nasty. Irish nasty.
Yo, Irish nasty should be, like.
That should be, like, your name when you decide to go out and just be, like, filthy.
Should be like, yo, call me Irish nasty.
See, if Rory was smart and he wasn't on his college stick
He would come out with a bar of soap or some shit Irish nasty
You want to wash yourself with something called Irish nasty?
No nigga
First of all washing yourself with Irish spring
Is that the name of Irish spring?
Irish spring yeah
That is the worst soap
Yeah that shit is
Rory probably owns Irish spring
They got that shit at Rikers
Yeah you can clean like a project elevator with Irish Spring soap.
I do my clean pots with fucking Irish Spring soap.
Yeah, that shit is terrible.
I seen Irish Spring in a girl's shower one time.
I knew it wasn't going to work.
I said, it's either she's disgusting or it's a nigga.
Yeah, nah.
That's really crazy, but girl.
Do y'all go in girls' medicine cabinets?
Yeah.
Girls got the best lotions.
They got the best deodorant.
Best soaps.
Yeah.
I'm going through a chick's whole bathroom.
What's the name?
The Roots Picnic is coming up.
Yeah.
The festival.
Wayne's.
Y'all going?
Y'all going?
When is it?
June something.
June something.
I always say that.
And then June 2nd comes.
June 3rd.
It's June 3rd.
Where is it at? Philly?
We should go
Joe was supposed to be on the bill
But he turned it down
So we could have had the whole VIP treatment
But now we just got to be regular people
You turned it down for real or was that a joke?
I don't know what Rory's talking about
I'm a VIP so I'm just used to that treatment
I know for Rory something has to be happening
Rory's VIP too though
I seen him move around
In the streets
Come on man
That Henny Palooza card
Is kind of heavy in the streets
It is
It is
Yeah
This podcast too kind of
The way it is shit
A dude
A dude ran up to me
In Boston
Three dudes ran up to me
In Boston last night
At the game
Why you ain't text me
How that came up
What happened
No it wasn't beef
They were like
Just fans
I was waiting for the kicker.
So what happened here?
You ran up on your boss.
No, no, no.
I was like, hey.
No, no, no.
They were fans of the show,
but it bugged me out.
Did they use the N-word?
No, definitely not.
You were in Boston.
But they were fans of the show.
They said to tell you guys,
you know,
they love what we're doing.
Oh, all right.
Boston guys that ran up on them all.
Three Boston guys.
Oh, I think Trey
gave me 20 minutes.
I don't even see why
that was even the drop there.
What else did we need to get?
Do you want to touch
the BET Awards?
The Cardi?
Yeah, Cardi is in
which fucking category?
Cardi B been looking hot.
I don't know.
Am I just like horny?
I don't know.
She's best female hip hop artist.
No, like she looks,
I remember when she first
came on Love & Hip Hop
and now she doesn't even
Almost look like the same
Person anymore
Well money do that
Yeah like her whole shit
Is like
Cardi was never whack
No no she was never
An ugly girl
But add money into
Already
Yeah like now she's like
Like it's like
Yo like you kinda look
At Cardi like
Her and Offset
Just put out that video
So that shit is hard
A little too many
Motivational speeches
For me now
Just kinda milking it
come on man
I ain't mad at it
relax
let people change
their lives man
yeah I'm not mad
damn
but she do look great
I'm about to play
her record with
Offset and Matt Sleeper
that shit is dope
alright she's nominated
for best female
hip hop artist
along with Missy
Nicki
Remy
and Young M.A.
do we think
all of these people
will be in attendance
at the BET Awards
yeah I don't think Missy will be in attendance at the BET Awards?
Yeah.
I don't think Missy will be there.
Why not?
I just don't.
She might be there.
She made an appearance recently.
Yeah.
I think she'll be there. Yeah, so she might be there.
YoungMA will definitely be there.
Of course.
Cardi will definitely be there.
Will Nicki and Remy be there?
Chris, we don't care if you're ready to go home, nigga.
I don't know if Nicki's there.
Chris always start moving around extra fast when he ready to leave.
He over there unscrewing the water bottle on him.
Chris got a life.
Yeah, that ain't no fuck, nigga.
Nigga paid to fucking record.
He keep dropping shit over there, so we keep looking at him like.
What time is it?
Yeah, we understand we were late.
Shit to drive.
Right.
All right, what about it?
I have no thoughts on that.
On Nicky and Remy being in the same place?
I don't know that they're both going to be in the same place.
Remy already made the announcement that any beef or any of that shit is over with.
So, I mean, what about it?
There's really nothing about it.
That's no fun.
Yeah, I don't think it's going to be any fun.
I'm more so, I'm very amused.
I know y'all don't care about this.
care about this.
I'm more so focused on
Fetty's
baby mama
Masika
and Fetty's
ex-whatever-the-light-skin-girl
name is.
They both still
fighting over Fetty
and Fetty got a
whole new chick.
I gotta salute that guy.
That's what happens
when you got a bag.
When you get a bag?
The bag does change things.
They fight over
the dumbest shit when you got a bag. Alright does change things They fight over the dumbest shit
When you got a bag
Alright lastly
They fighting over the bag
Yeah
They are fighting over the bag
Lastly
While we're on the bag
Charlamagne has a bet
That my show will be over soon
Charlamagne
I mean you might be right
Who knows
This show won't be over soon
Cause I am unstable
Yeah Yeah this show's not ending Cause I am I am unstable Yeah
Yeah this show's not ending
Yeah
I mean I think he knows that
I think he was just talking about
Well no
We're gonna be replaced by academics
It's gonna be Joe and
Charlemagne
Let me explain something
And I
You know I love what you're doing
Throw some claps in there
When you talk to him
Let him know
No I don't know
I got it
No no no
I meant like aggressive
While I'm talking
I know we like Charlemagne
Yeah Charlamagne.
Yeah.
Charlamagne, yeah.
But there will never come a day where academics will replace me in anything in my life.
Let me just say that.
Debatable.
It ain't debatable.
It's not.
Act kind of popping in these streets.
I don't care about that.
He might take your supermodel. I could have went to the Celtics game.
You're right, Joe.
That's what I'm saying.
He could have three guys run up on him.
You're right.
Absolutely.
I'm talking about on this platform, though.
Yeah, no, no, that's true.
Nobody's leaving this.
We're doing great.
I'm not paying Sean Mann any mind with that.
But on the show part, though, he's right.
Man, the show will be over.
So I don't see it that way.
I think you are severely mistaken and not really assessing things correctly. I think you are Severely mistaken And not really
Assessing things correctly
I think you're smarter than that
But you'll see
More will be revealed
They say
Well I think they were joking
A lot back in the day
Yeah no
Of course they were joking
It's all jokes
I had hit Joe
When I heard it
And was like
Nah we gotta start this beef
I'm all the way in
So fuck brilliant
Andrew's tall
He is tall
Yeah
I would love to see you In Andrew's slap box That don't really mean shit In fighting's tall He is tall Yeah I would love to see you
In Andrew's slap box
That don't really mean shit
In fighting
Yeah cause Vlad is tall
And boy when I see him
We're gonna have a conversation
He's gonna come right down the size
No
We're gonna have a conversation
I mean we're gonna have a good talk
Yeah
That's it
Yeah the thing with tall dudes
Cause they got the reach
You gotta get in quick
And early
Like right under they chin
And just give them
I don't know if Andrew's hand game is up.
Yo, we should have slap boxing at the pool party.
No, we shouldn't, Mo.
Because I was slap boxing champ three summers in a row.
I'm ready to see if I still got it.
That's not happening, Mo.
That's not going to happen.
Slap boxing is dope, though.
Especially in front of girls.
Mo went from, we should not have the phones there, so it's all this positive conversation.
Yeah, but you have a slap.
Yo, let's slapbox
yeah you have a slapbox
nobody can't record it
nobody can't world star it
you know what I mean
just keep it in the backyard
you think someone's
getting smacked
in front of a bunch of chicks
and just eating that
get your hand game up
slapboxing at my mansion
yo remember Hot 97
used to do that
was you up there
smackfest
that was my idea
wait your idea was
so you want to shoot down
my idea
but you had the idea
to have people come up
To Hot 97
And slap each other
That was when I was young
And I didn't live in a mansion
That was great
That was legendary radio shit
By the way
Smackfest was great
Legendary radio shit
For those that
Didn't grow up in New York
YouTube Smackfest
It's hilarious
That was legendary
That's how you know
Something is wrong with my brain
No that was great
I think that was a great idea
I think they should do that now
With people that got Twitter beats I think they got a lawsuit That would be great by the way They just great idea I think they should do that now With people that got Twitter beefs
I think they got a lawsuit
That would be great by the way
They just got a
I think they got sued
For that shit almost
For Smackfest
What was the pitch
Can you walk me through
When you walked into the office
And was like yo I got an idea
I'm not doing this
Take it from there
I'm not taking anything
From anywhere
Take me from there
I'm not taking anything
From anywhere
So we're gonna put one guy
Over here
And then one guy over here.
Imagine even talking to the chief like this.
And then we're going to say go.
Fuck the chief.
Speaking of beef, do y'all want to close with this Twitter beef that was entertaining for two seconds today that I hear started over a rap debate?
I think because of Everyday Struggle is what started it.
Seriously?
They were debating about something on Everyday Struggle.
Really?
No, but we're going to say it was.
Oh, okay.
I'm rolling.
This sounds good.
Yeah.
So Joe and Ak then turned into Stone Marley.
No Stone.
I don't know the other gentleman.
Ski, I believe his name was.
Yeah.
So the back story was they got into an altercation via the internet.
Stone was not having it.
So Stone then got in an Uber With his mans
I'm not sure if it was an Uber pool
Or a regular Uber
Or an XL
Oh Chef Jordan
First of all
Getting in an Uber pool
To go dress some beef
Might be the craziest shit ever
You with three other niggas in the car
You the only one
That's going to handle some beef
And still don't stop
It's Chef Jordan
Yeah that was crazy
That's crazy
This nigga Ubered
To go fight a total stranger
And still ain't dropped that video
Yo Stone you a G my nigga
I ain't gonna lie
Yeah he keeping it
All the way around
Stone's the man
Friend of the show man
Yeah he definitely friend of the show
For that shit
Stone pulls up
And Ski does not seem to want to come outside of his house
According to Stone's timeline
And then Stone went on to then question his membership to an alleged gang because he did
not want the physical altercation.
If your affiliation to a gang is ever in question, it's definitely when somebody shows up for
a one-on-one.
That's when niggas like, yo, you ain't really no gang, man.
You show up to my door for a one-on-one?
Yeah. Dogs.one? Yeah.
Dogs.
Why?
Man.
What do you mean, why?
What's the problem?
You're going to lose.
They teach you that very early on in life, not to show up to someone else's door.
But if you, you know, he didn't just pop up.
He said he was going.
I got shit.
I'm in my home.
Yeah, but he said he was going.
You are going to lose if you show up to my door for an unexpected visit, it will not bode well for you.
Yeah, that usually doesn't bode well.
Is this a threat for the pool party?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
See, Rory, you don't know.
See, Rory just met me.
So he wasn't at the pool party when I told homeboy To stop conducting himself that way
And then I had to hop over
The fucking balcony
That was before I broke my foot
And landed like a fucking cat
And damn they had to choke money up
In that fucking pool
Spanish dude
Whatever his name was
Spanish man
Spanish man you won't be at this one
No that won't be happening
That won't be happening
I'm not catching a case
At this pool party
It's gonna be real easy breezy for me
We got sleepers?
Yeah we do I think Do. We got sleepers? Yeah, we do, I think.
Do I have a sleeper?
You have the ox cord, I believe.
Yeah, but let me see if I have a sleeper.
I don't know if I have a sleeper.
All right, let me see.
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Oh, you know what?
Let me go.
That Katron song.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now, this is old, and Rory has been playing shit off of this shit for quite some time.
Oh, the Katron album?
Yeah, that album is fire.
Which album is this?
I'm trying to tell you that.
That album is all the way fire.
When I played it as a sleeper on this podcast.
What album is this?
I'm about to tell you right now, Maul.
As soon as I pull up my iTunes.
Oh, damn.
I used to be able to hit that note.
I highly doubt that.
Let me ask you what the fuck you highly doubted.
Oh, yeah.
I think I played this exact song, too.
Oh, no, I played the Fonte song.
Yeah, you played the Fonte song.
Yeah, Craig David killed this.
Kay Trinata featuring Craig David.
This is off the 99.9% album.
It's an older album, but it's great.
It's a great album.
It's electronic music.
This is probably the slowest joint on there.
Don't worry about the tag. go and throw it in the bag, cause I got it good.
And you're the best I ever had, baby, you know that you're better.
I got it good.
I'm certain that you're worth it, you deserve it, girl.
Don't worry about the tag, always throw it in the bag
Cause I got it down
Baby, do you remember when we started?
Remember me and you creeping around late at night, yeah
Yeah, you held me down when I had nothing
And that's the reason I'm a spoiler now that I can
My hand meets your hand, our love isn't plastic
But here's my credit card not gonna max it
the fact is it's no stress baby I got this treat you like the queen in Buckingham Palace yeah
don't worry about the tag go and throw it in the bag cause I got it good
you're the best I ever had baby you know that you're bad, and I got it good.
I'm certain that you're worth it.
Rory hating on my fucking ad-lib.
Don't worry about that, go and throw it in the bag,
because I got it good.
This beat is hard, though.
See, he know the beat is hard, too.
I got it, I got it, I got it, I got no hands on my watch, I don't clock the time
Cause when it comes to me and you, girl, our time is priceless
There's no need for hesitation when you're swiping
I wanna show appreciation, so I buy it
Buy it, go try it
Girl, if you like it, feel used to say that you're cool with nightgowns.
The tie dance, quite red, one of a kind.
And do anything I can to please my highness, yeah.
Don't worry about the tag, go and throw it in the bag.
Cause I got it good.
You're the best I ever had.
Baby, you know that you're bad.
I got it good. Are y'all telling girls that they're the best I ever had Baby, you know that you're bad I got it good
Are y'all telling girls that they're the best you ever had?
How many times have y'all pulled that one out?
That they're the best I've ever had?
Yeah, I don't know
I don't think I ever have
I don't think I've ever said that either
What?
You're the best I ever had?
Y'all have never told a girl that?
I don't think so
Y'all are fucking not living life, bro
I don't need to do that You gotta get fucking not living life, bro. Wait, hold on.
You gotta get that off.
You're the best
I've ever had.
I've never needed
to get it off.
Get it off.
After I've had it,
why would I need to lie?
But wait,
are you saying it
and believing it
or are you just saying
say it, period,
just lie?
No, but I'm saying it
at that point
that is the best I've had.
And how many times
have you said that?
Who's counting?
No, I know a nigga's
go-to is more so
yo, I feel like
I've known you forever oh
yeah yeah no if you say that having sex that's crazy no no i feel like i've known you forever
that's that's the first night y'all meet no our chemistry crazy like this is weird it's like i
don't usually feel this type of way i might be that chemistry is crazy guy i'm definitely that
guy i got that off You know what's funny
Who do you have chemistry with
A lot of people
Name one
Dickhead
Who do you have
Name one
Name one person
You gonna stop making
Name one is wild
Ayo Joe
I'm gonna let you get that off
This episode
But next week
I'm letting you know now
We not doing that
I'm letting you get that off
This week
But next week
We ain't doing that
I'm letting you know that
Right now
I'm chilling
God damn it Play a sleeper I'm letting you get that off Alright my bad I'm letting you know that Right now on air Alright I'm chilling Alright cool
God damn it
Just play a sleeper
I'm going super
I want one of them BJ's
Honestly that shit's hard
I got you
Even if I'm weird
I'm still
I'll give it to my kid
Trey feel like
He fucking dad hat man
Now all of a sudden
Alright
I'm going super barefoot Just cause the weather is going to be 88 degrees tomorrow.
And this is the type of shit.
Alex, I'll go with duh for 500, Alex.
You've been going barefoot since it was 30 degrees outside, Rory.
Yeah.
This is the same sleeper you always play.
That's untrue.
Same vibe.
Yeah, turn it up.
Turn it up, bro.
Vanjess, touch the floor. Produced by L.A. Reid. L.A. killed this shit. Same Bob. Yeah, just turn it up, bro
Produced by LA Reid I like killed this shit
I think Rory got a cousin who voices like this. I've been chilling on this these type of records
This is be 88 degrees tomorrow.
I need to hear all this at the pool party.
We're going to hear all this at the pool party.
Because I got the high score.
Chris ain't looked at that camera in about an hour.
That shit ain't even on.
That shit ain't even on.
It ain't even taping nothing Me too, ma
Mm I want to see Rory's dance moves to these types of songs.
Is there going to be a dance floor at the pool party?
You know Irish Nasty is doing some wild shit.
Yo, you know why I love and hate that?
I'm going to get 50 million tweets tomorrow if I mention saying Irish Nasty.
But wait, tell the truth.
You're not Irish Nasty?
Damn.
I'm not answering that.
Irish Nasty is going to have 1,000 moves.
Irish Nasty?
Listen, Irish Nasty is definitely in your name now, whether you like it or not.
He has all the moves. Yeah, Irish Nasty Listen Irish Nasty is definitely In your name now Whether you like it or not He has all the moves
Yeah
Irish Nasty
Damn
Maul don't end this
With some fucking
Hardcore Toronto hip hop man
I got some shit
For y'all niggas
It's gonna make you
Wanna go
It's gonna make you
Wanna go buy a brick
Bust that shit
It ain't gonna make me
Wanna freestyle
That's for sure
Now with the rates These streaming services Are handing out these days I'm going outside. It's going to make you want to go buy a brick. Bust that shit. It ain't going to make me want to freestyle, that's for sure. Now with the rates these streaming services are handing out these days.
I'm going to play a dude by the name of Che Ikru.
From Boston, huh?
I don't know where he's from.
He ran over me at the game.
I said I had to play the record.
With a demo and a bag.
I honestly don't know where he's from.
I bet.
But this is off his project called...
He's from the Boston Garden.
Yeah, or he's from the wizard.
Y'all having fun?
Y'all having fun?
Cool.
Let me get my shit on.
He's from the wizard.
You may know him as Brandon Jennings.
What if he was on the wizard?
Something's making me spitting.
Nah, this is nice. He's kinda like, it's R&B.
Alright, let's see.
It's off this project called Berries. It's called 2AM.
I love all records titled A Time in the AM.
Imani think everybody stole that from him. Sorry, Imani.
This project is dope. I've been listening to it all week.
I'm in.
I'm in.
I'm that guy. It sounds like a noise I like. Yep. This is going good.
This project's hard.
Ten seconds in, three noises I like. Yeah, this project's hard.
10 seconds in, three noises I like.
I'm buying it.
Oh yeah.
I'm all tricked us.
Mm. I just wanna make up No more messing up your makeup Tell me how you feeling baby I'ma keep it run, tell you that you all I got
Catching all these feelings lately 2016 and it's time to shoot my shot
I ain't even trying, I know Tears always running down the side of your nose
Fighting every time that I be driving you home All the sides gotta go, you got guys like a horse
Yeah, you know that
Ain't another man who gon' control that
I was never one to go at all
This shit hard, but he still about to eat these jokes
He still sound like Bryson Tiller
Tell me what you really wanna do
Tell me what you really wanna do
Girl, I think it's time for me and you
Ain't nobody do it like I do I'm screwing like a screw And girl, I see what you can do Right I can change things, I ain't with the gang, gang I'm just an amazing, he's in my name, he's in my name, name
Two in the bar, yeah
Baby girl, I'm making you more, yeah
Love it how you do it, so strong, yeah
Tell me, baby, do you want more, more, yeah
Do it some more, yeah
I know what you coming here for, yeah
Tell me, baby, do you want more, yeah
Tell me, someone give you some more, more, yeah
Two in the bar, yeah Baby girl, I'm you want more, yeah Promise I'ma give you some more, more, yeah
Two in the bar, yeah
Baby girl I'm making you more, yeah
Love it how you do it so strong, yeah
Tell me baby do you want more, more, yeah
Do it some more, yeah
I know what you come here for, yeah
Tell me baby do you want more, yeah
Promise I'ma give you some more, more, yeah
Here we go again That's Che-E Crew, 2AM off his project called Berries.
Is the project hard?
The project is.
Listen, I've been listening to this for the last week.
That's all I've been listening to.
I'm going to check this out.
That song was really, really good.
Yeah, Che-E Crew.
That sounded like my type of vibe.
No, his album, this mixtape is crazy.
That's your vibes, chief?
You know what this reminds me of, this mixtape?
When Jhené dropped Sailing Soul.
Like how I listened to that.
That was all I was listening to.
Man, Jhené owes some fucking music.
Sailing Souls was like, that was the Bible.
That shit was crazy.
Yeah.
I'm not going to say she owes us music, but I understand what you're saying.
Anything we're missing?
Get the fuck out of here.
Trump is selling off all the secrets for top dollar.
What else is happening?
What are you going to do?
Think we covered everything?
Yeah.
He's on his way to impeachment.
Then the real problem happens.
Yeah, Pence.
So that's cool.
We'll be back.
Anything happen this weekend good?
Memorial Day weekend soon.
I know we're about two and a half out.
Nine.
Not even.
Henny Palooza on Saturday.
We're about two weeks out.
It's Coney Island.
Coney Island on the Saturday of May 27th.
Henny Palooza, Coney Island.
Sounds like it should be a good time.
Yeah, we announced Kid Capri as our headlining DJ.
We have one more announcement that we'll make probably towards the end of the week.
But it should be good.
I'm excited.
It's open bar everything, not just Hennessy.
When is it, Saturday?
Where at?
May 27th in Coney Island.
Tickets?
Same spot?
Same spot.
Any day you and Cam want to get me my prices on the Jenga, this would be fucking awesome,
these guys over here.
Are you announcing the Jenga and Twister
For the pool party
No I'm not
Announcing anything
Just yet
Not yet
But I am excited
About D-Nice coming
So we'll see
One more plug
Is Miss Milan gonna be there
DJ Miss Milan
At a pool party
It's Mech and D-Nice
I don't think so
Unless she does
A surprise set
Yeah
I want her to do
A surprise set
She's great
I bet you do
Want her to do
A surprise set A few surprise sets Here you do want her To do a surprise set
A few surprise sets
Here we go
Alright I'm gonna get out of here now
What were you saying Rory?
I have one more plug
Trapping Anonymous
Which I put a lot of you guys on
That love that podcast
Doing a live podcast
At SOBs
In June
Tickets are available now
At SOBs.com
Bag talk
Speaking of podcasts
There's one particular podcast
I'm waiting on to drop
Hadn't dropped yet Oh I know which one you're talking about Hadn't dropped yet I subscribed Talk. Speaking of podcasts, there's one particular podcast I'm waiting on to drop.
It hasn't dropped yet.
Oh, I know which one you're talking about. It hasn't dropped yet.
I subscribed.
I refreshed my podcast shit.
Oh, that didn't happen?
It didn't drop yet, but.
You know what's funny?
I would think that would have dropped and our group chat would have been a little wild.
You know what's funny?
I was just saying that kind of went under the radar if it happened.
Like, we didn't talk about it.
No, it didn't happen yet.
She getting the streets ready.
Damn, son. She really letting it sit. Yeah, when you got that fire, she making sure the rollout is right. You know what I mean? If it happened Like we didn't talk about it Nah it didn't happen yet She getting the streets ready Damn son
She really letting it sit
Yeah
When you got that fire
She making sure the rollout is right
You know what I mean
The rollout for a podcast is funny
Listen
What you want niggas to do man
Until the next time
Until next week
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