The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 139 | "I'm Your O.G."
Episode Date: December 6, 2017The “hard-nosed vet” Joe Budden kicks off this episode by letting Rory know who his O.G. is. Then Joe, Rory, and Mal give their thoughts on Eminem’s track list (3:24). Friend of the show, Charla...magne tha God, joins over the phone to address his comments regarding Bad Boys top 5 rappers of all-time (1:30:24). Plus, Mase calls in to clear up a few things (2:38:26). Make sure you stick around for this one. Other topics include: -Chanel West Coast rant (22:27) -Miguel’s album review (47:01) -New Jeezy album (2:01:31) Sleeper picks of the week: Rory: Roy Woods "Little Bit of Lovin" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qgImEYG9Yw Mal: Chris Classic "A Father Figure" Joe: ELHAE ft. Sabrina Claudio "Blue" (Unreleased) | Original "Blue" Interlude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYKQfAVMvPk
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I just want to let everybody out there know the whole room seems a little down in the dumps just
yeah get my drop off.
I just don't have the aux.
You have a drop.
It's New Rory and Maul drop.
Fuck the new Joe Budden drop.
If you don't get that shit.
Fuck y'all shit.
I just don't have the aux, so I couldn't plug it in.
But wait.
He needs some more reverb on that.
Are you serious?
Play this shit.
I got to bring it back up.
Come on, Audio Mac.
No, William.
Sam got a chill.
What is Sam doing?
Get off Rory's phone for the last time.
Anyway, all right.
Episode number, who gives a fuck?
139.
Who cares?
139.
Does that matter?
Too many.
We ain't doing seasons.
We should be doing seasons.
We should be doing seasons.
Yes, we can take a break.
We are so trash.
139, y'all said?
Yeah.
All right, episode number 139 of the Joe Budden Podcast.
I'm your host, Joe Budden.
To my left is Rory.
Savon's here.
New Chris Brown is here.
Parks is here.
And to my right is Maul.
I would ask how everybody's doing.
Maul, I see,
is learning the broadcasting trick of
coming to the mic with his poker face
on and then unleashing this
fury of thoughts and outlandish
opinions. Well, not even outlandish,
just Maul opinions.
Maybe kind of legit, though.
So,
I don't know if y'all want to start with m's track list but i mean
at some point we can get was waiting at some point we can start we can get to m's track list
his track list was revealed well first of all before we even get it all i hate that word
revealed they put it out i hate track list you're revealing
they revealed it wait alright
no let's get to that
in a second
how is everyone
how's everyone doing
and feeling
let's check the temperament
in here
I'm good
I'm cool
I'm cool
no longer wonderful
new not to be wonderful
in this house
men of many words
in here
alright
so let's start with
let's start with
Rory's weekend because i know
you and all your little hipster buddies were really sad uh about you you are my hipster buddy
so i'm not are you talking to yourself in the third person i'm not your hipster buddy you're
wearing a bathrobe right now i'm your og no you og hipster I'm your OG Hey a nigga telling you
He is your OG
Is crazy
Don't tell me my OG
I gotta tell you
If you're my OG
I'm your OG
No
It don't work that way
That's the new shit
That's like giving yourself
A nickname
You tell a nigga
Hey Rory
How do you think
You've been safe all these years
Honestly
No let's talk about this
For a second
Do you think you've just Been running around here untouched on the strength of your fucking hands
yeah who you stopped who you stopped on the strength of your hands
who you stopped this wasn't even written down come on man i don't care what are we what was
we talking about before we started now i'm Now I'm wondering who you kept me safe from. Nah, that's part M&M. That's part M&M.
Yeah.
Kept M off your ass.
We're all going to find.
All right, so let's get to the M track list.
You're going to find a way to start with the M track list.
So let's start with the M track list.
Listen, listen.
Before we say anything, I just want to say, Royce the 5'9", I love you.
You're a good friend.
But I know M is your man.
But you're going to hear some things today that might upset you a little bit.
Not from me, Royce.
Of course, because Joe is, you know.
Pussy.
Yeah.
I don't care.
Royce, I love you.
You're my guy.
You know that.
You've never met Em.
I don't care.
So, I mean, you can't expect me to share your fucking, you know what I mean?
No, I'm just talking about musically.
I'm not talking about personally.
I don't think that, you know, I don't have anything to say negative about it. What I will say musically is it didn't dawn on me until Rory reminded me that Recovery, the album, came out in 2009.
That, I feel like I'm like stuck in a time capsule.
Like that don't feel like that long ago.
That's nine years ago.
Yeah, it was a while.
Yeah.
So now once you start doing shit like that, all right I'm shutting up that's a while ago that's a
while ago so I mean I get it I get it uh do we have the track list yes the
revealed track list I have first one walk on water feature trash that didn't
come with audio oh oh we heard that song.
Maybe it's a new version.
We heard that song.
Maybe they put some drums on it.
Maybe.
He performed it with drums.
Did he?
I hope they put some drums on it.
I didn't want to start with this track list.
I don't know why Maul let us here.
Believe.
What do we think, Maul?
Believe?
Yeah, what do we think Believe will do?
I don't believe.
Next.
I went to public school.
How do you pronounce that word?
That one.
The third one.
Trash.
Chloroceptic?
There you go.
Chloroceptic.
Featuring Fresher.
A little random feature.
The name of the song is Chloroceptic.
Isn't that like cough syrup?
If I have to roll a dice on a song called Chloroceptic, I'm going to say trash.
But you don't have to roll the dice on anything. We're rolling theceptic, I'm going to say trash. But you don't have to roll
the dice on anything.
We're rolling the dice.
We didn't see any of these records.
That's my point.
Untouchable.
Y'all are the niggas
that think you can tell
how an album's going to sound
by reading the fucking track list.
I think with the features,
we kind of can for this one.
All right.
Let's just talk about the features.
No one gives a fuck
about the name of the song.
Ed Sheeran,
Alicia Keys,
Fire,
Ambassador, Skylar Gray, Fire, Kehlani, Fire, and Pink. no one gives a fuck about the name of the song uh ed sheeran alicia keys fire ambassadors skylar
gray fire kaylani fire and pink who's that damn pink's not five she was fired so that's past
since fire who's a past inspire past inspire who's ambassador because we don't acknowledge
we need to start acknowledging when niggas was fire at some point i mean they were providing
and then they stopped so i mean pink is past in fire was eminem also be in that category who was once providing fire
and no longer is no because i thoroughly enjoyed recent m versus me okay i know that's mall saying
i'm waving my shady flag man get the fuck out of here joe come on can we have a real conversation one time come on
you've been you've been what you said about previous inversions you what you like them
recent recent i like that that uh cypher verse that that you seem to hate i didn't hate the
i just thought it didn't it wasn't as major as everybody made it i thought it was pretty major
okay if y'all don't have something riveting to say about this track.
My prediction,
it seems way too pop-ish.
It seems a little lazy
that he just went out
and grabbed the hottest people out
and just put them,
he's going to do 16
and they're going to sing the hook.
It's going to be all on pop radio.
Like, M,
the way Hov has aged gracefully
and really pushed hip-hop,
to me,
this feels like this is
pushing pop music.
I think it's unfair to say that without hearing it.
I know.
We're doing predictions.
That's what we're doing here.
I don't know how it's going to sound, but to me, just grabbing it.
When is the album coming out?
Are these predictions?
It sounds like y'all already got the fork in the nigga.
Where is Griselda?
Where is Royce?
That's my only question.
Where does Royce fit in this feature list?
I don't know.
There's nothing hip-hop about this feature list.
I believe in Royce.
Man, Royce can rap on whatever.
That is true.
But to me, this looks like they just are going to put the Billboard press release with all the major names that are featured on it.
And here you guys go.
Let's make this sell a quadrillion albums.
Who would have thought that Royce, Eminem, and Bruno Mars would be a
record?
And it was.
Well, because that
was Em's formula that
Royce is just so
talented that he
could fit into
easily.
Exactly.
That was Royce's
record.
Right.
Oh, was it?
I didn't know.
Yeah.
That was a Royce
record.
Listen, man.
Go ahead.
No, that's what I
have to say about
that.
Listen, y'all are drying me up here.
I'm not starting my podcast with this dry shit that, frankly, none of y'all really care about.
This is our podcast, nigga.
First of all, we want to talk about Eminem.
We're going to talk about Eminem.
Well, nigga, I want you to say something.
That track list does not make me want to go buy that album.
I don't care about hearing Eminem and Ed Sheeran.
I don't care about hearing Eminem and Beyonce.
I don't care about hearing Eminem and Pink.
I don't care.
I don't want to hear that shit.
Where's the hip hop at?
Why Conway ain't on there?
Why West Side Gun ain't on there?
Let me ask you this, Joe.
Do you think Eminem is in a position of talent that he can just do what he wants now at this point in his career?
He's better than that position.
Okay.
No, that's his problem.
He thinks that he can do whatever he wants.
That's the problem.
To be a huge hip-hop head?
Is his favorite rapper not Redman?
Why is he grabbing Ed Sheeran for these features and shit?
This doesn't seem like a hip-hop album for someone that now just wants to create cool shit because he's done with his career and providing what the whole masses want.
This is a masses album.
This isn't a hip-hop album.
You and I love Ed Sheeran.
Shut up.
What are you talking about?
No, Ed Sheeran is great. What are you talking about? I like every last one of these features.
That's why I don't understand.
I like Ed Sheeran.
I know Em to be the real hip hop head
and he's finally at a point in his career
he could completely do a hip hop album.
Oh please.
This is a pop shit.
He's a fucking pop star.
He don't have to conform to't have to he don't have
to conform to this shit anymore very clear he doesn't need to we're talking about m is a white
pop star i agree pop only means aligning himself yeah but he's one of the biggest yeah but that
don't mean you have to make that type of music shit he became a pop star by doing hip-hop shit exactly it's hip-hop uh my name is is hip-hop
but he's rapping and dr dre it's a dr dre beat listen i don't care i'm not invested
i'm not i mean i don't there's nothing for me to say i can't say anything because i gotta hear it
i have nothing to say because it unfortunately if if I say anything, people take it as some type of confirmation.
And please be clear, I don't have any information.
I've been kicked out that group chat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't even.
You wasn't invited to any sessions?
I used to get the little sluggish anniversary.
No, I didn't get nothing.
I don't get a text from nobody.
I ain't get a birthday text.
That's just my opinion
from the track list.
Why didn't you put
Slow the House on that album?
I felt he could have
put some hip hop.
Why are we starting with,
who cares?
Wait, Slow the House
on what album?
On the M album.
This album?
Well, Joe doesn't rap.
I'm retiring.
They could have put
Joel Crook and Royce on it.
There's an old Joe verse. I do think it says something
that just the mere
thought that we're starting the
podcast this way is like
excruciating to me.
Okay, how would you like to start?
Not because of what we're talking about.
I don't care about that. What do you want to start with?
I just don't think, and this is
what me and Ice was arguing about all weekend,
I don't think that it's like we're in a different world where that's not the hip-hop we're in anymore,
where that release is the dominant news of the day.
Well, it was.
Okay, so let's start with the dominant news.
The Knicks are on a 10-game losing streak.
Nigga, more.
Are you crazy? I didn't know what the dominant news was. What's the dominant news? The Knicks are on a 10 game losing streak? Nigga, are you crazy?
I didn't know
what the dominant news was.
What's the dominant news?
Let me know.
I want to talk about
some shit we could crack on.
I personally wasn't done
joking on these hipster niggas
with the last Henny Palooza.
Oh, how was it?
He wasn't at the last
Henny Palooza,
so there was no hipsters there.
How was it though?
How was it?
There was at least
one hipster there.
It was great.
It was phenomenal.
Terminal 5 was phenomenal.
Did you cry?
I came close.
Oh, my God.
Some allergies might have acted up at the end.
You were sad that the party was over?
No, it was five years.
I wasn't there to keep them off of me.
Oh, God.
Yeah, right.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, right.
It's making sense now.
You putting it together.
They had the pressure on me.
Next stage, that's what's going on.
Word.
I get it. Couldn't get the whole squad in. Niggas, you know what I mean? That's what happened. Supp had the pressure on me. Next stage, that's what's going on. Word. I get it. Couldn't get the whole
squad in, niggas, you know what I mean?
That's what happened. Supplied that pressure. I got the
text. From who?
Come on, man. I'm your OG.
I'm your OG is hilarious,
man. That's some funny shit.
Come on, tell us how it was, Rory.
That's what it was, man.
That's our five-year anniversary.
Five-year run, and you ain't just gonna end it with,
I mean, it was. A five-year anniversary. Y'all had a five-year run, and you ain't just going to end it with, I mean, it was.
A five-year run comes to an end, and it is.
Every podcast I had to hear about Henny Palooza, Kansas.
Atlanta. Henny Palooza, Idaho.
St. Louis.
Henny Palooza, Jacksonville.
Texas.
And now all the Henny Paloozas is over.
All you niggas tweeting on Sunday, man, so sad.
What a run we had.
Like, y'all niggas, it's jordan and all you got for us here for
parties yeah like we are yeah so we need more yeah anytime i will try to talk about it i will
completely clown it so i'm not even gonna set myself up anyway no i want to know what else
happened regardless people drank hennessy people had a great time that's what it was what it was
no one had the flu and came back and drank a bottle and swag surfed and swag surf happened.
Is anyone going to come forward?
No, no one's going to come forward.
How many sexual misconduct cases do you think y'all have coming your way?
Zero.
Listen, what's that do to Henny Palooza doc?
The doc.
Oh, it's been shot.
It's been shot.
Oh, I know.
I have it.
Joe got gotta narrate
for sure
oh no
well I'm narrating on mine
I can't speak for what
Kaz is doing
on his
so some
speaking of that
some chick had tweeted
like
when you know
when they was exposing
everyone on the timeline
not even like celebrities
they was like
oh I hope no one
from the Henny Palooza team
gets exposed
I love those guys too much
I was like
this is your way
to invite us
into this conversation.
Thanks a lot.
Listen, let me just paint the picture for you listeners who are unfamiliar with the Henny Palooza squadron.
Gang, gang, gang.
Squadron.
Gang, nigga.
Thank you.
A group of 20-something-year-olds.
That's very untrue.
Are traveling.
I'm 27.
I'm the youngest.
Are traveling.
Oh, all right. It's 30 plus. All right. very untrue are traveling I'm 27 I'm the youngest are traveling oh alright
it's 30 plus
alright well
5 years ago
it was a group of
20 something year olds
cause that's what I was
talking about
a group of
20 something year olds
friends
are traveling
city to city
in Airbnbs
drinking Hennessy
and drinking Hennessy
and throwing the biggest
party ever
now sounds like good clean fun to me now and drinking Hennessy and throwing the biggest party ever. Now.
Sounds like good, clean fun to me.
I'm not saying that somebody ain't coming forward,
but they probably paid a couple.
Harvey thought he was having good, clean fun too.
Yo, the number on him is up to 600.
What?
How you even talk to 600 girls? Ma, you're not supposed to... Now, that's 600. how do you even talk to girls
now that's funny i can see why we don't get sponsored that was funny
wait we'll never get a sponsor with maul yo i just see what complex goes through with me
600 come on man come on that's why who knows that's ridiculous that's that's crazy 600 women have come forward to say that a man sexually
Maul
you and I
and I won't disclose any names
but you and I have played
truth or truths
in my house
where men have said
yeah I fucked 600 chicks
and then that same nigga
fucked in the crib
from that game
but we knew he was lying though
600 is a wild body count.
He was lying.
Nah.
Nothing about him says
he's fucking 600.
Omar wasn't lying.
Wait, you can't do that.
I don't think it was
it was his man that said that.
I don't think it was Omar
that said that.
Nah, O said that.
I thought his homeboy said that.
Nah, O said that.
Who was it?
Who homeboy pulled the hammer
out in front of the girls
and then didn't leave with nothing?
You know how crazy
you gotta be for listen, you playing true for the end of the girl's scene leave with nothing you know how crazy you gotta be for
listen you playing truth or dare and the girls story is so wild that you have to now tell it
yeah like okay so we playing truth or dare right so the girls tell this one dude he talking crazy
he make chicks he made like 300 girls squirt i thought this you know that guy that guy i thought
this nigga was like a unicorn or something i'm like like, wait, you did what? So he's going off.
Well, you know the guy that peaks the girl's interest and then goes hard?
He was that guy.
Yeah, 300 girls, square.
Wait, square?
You know what square is?
Like, all of that. So he's extra.
Yeah.
And it's definitely used in your man, can't do what I do line.
Yeah.
So the women are like, well, let us see.
Pull your dick out.
So you know, the niggas get up like, hold up.
So we leave the living room
we like we out of here
cause homie was like
he ready
he like alright
cool
so we like
whoa whoa whoa
before you do that
we leaving
we leave
we left
we leave the living room
I left the living room
and the kitchen
he come back
I left all the rooms
close to the living room
yeah
so when he finished
doing what he was doing
we come back
them bitches faces
Was mad
Chicks didn't look like
They were too like
You know what I'm saying
Like nothing had happened
And then it's like
The rest of the night
The rest of his night
Was fucked
Like he didn't have
Their faces looked sad
Yeah like
They wasn't even speaking
To him at the
The rest of the night
It was kinda like
You backed out
Yeah like you backed out
And that's it
Like you ain't even
Getting no conversation After that That was crazy to me but 600 women i can't
believe that oh drop that line in the truth of truth like and it was hard like a chick asked
himself truth of truth oh how many women have you slept with in your entire life and women are always
so amazed at a man's number because how they think
what they think our number should be
and what a nigga number is
is normally very different.
Listen, let me tell you.
I mean, y'all, mine is one.
Let me tell you why that's a lie.
First of all,
you can't remember
fucking 600 women.
That's true.
Number one.
You not counting that.
Because if you remember that,
you remember all their names.
I totally disagree
with what Maul said.
No.
I think the exact opposite.
Niggas cannot, you cannot keep track of 600 women you had sex with.
My number is anywhere near that high and I have no idea.
That's what I'm saying.
You can't keep track.
That's disgusting.
That's false, man.
Out of 600, how many do we think were like A1 bitches?
Yeah, none.
Whoa, that's a different conversation.
I don't care if they was all terrible.
You're not going to remember 600 women.
You're not going to remember that.
You're not going to remember that.
Can I rebut it? That's why every time Will Chamberlain slept with 10,000, you're not gonna remember that i you're not gonna remember can i rebut it
that's why every time will chamberlain slept with 10 000 you're not gonna remember that
it was cool to say all right well i was gonna bring up will chamberlain
at we do believe that he fucked a lot of women absolutely you could average it out and i do
believe the amount of days in a year and you're thinking about how many i was fucking at least
five times a week five different women By sheer average, you can count.
There are ways to figure that out, man.
I disagree with what you're saying.
If I'm an athlete.
You could roughly figure it out.
Because you may not remember 600 partners,
but you can remember 600 times.
Not sex, times.
So I can remember a whole lot of tour dates.
If me and you just sit there and just start talking, can remember a whole lot of tour dates if me and you just sit there
and just start talking yeah we can remember a lot of tour dates and a lot of studio sessions
you're gonna forget a lot and 100 but i'm saying but i don't have that number in excess that way
so all i'm saying is for a nigga that does like a nigga that's that that loose with his dick
and just going if o had a show every night.
Get the fuck.
First of all,
I'm going to believe
that you slept
with an even amount of women.
No, he rounded out.
I'm going to believe
600 on the dot.
Look at the 601 tonight.
Yeah, like get the fuck.
Like if he would have said 573,
I would have been like,
damn, he might have really
said it.
He don't got a.75 in there.
600 on the dot?
Like you stopped at 600.
Get the fuck out of here, man.
But I think that's me rounding.
You should stop at 600, by the way.
I think he did say an exact number.
He did.
He said 600.
But, Parks, listen.
This is the funny shit about that.
He said that, and some of the women were turned on by it.
And he fucked that night.
I thought you said he didn't.
So, 600 won.
No, he did.
Yeah.
Oh, wait. He tried. No? I don't know. Something happened. No, he beat that night in the bathroom. I don't know. I thought you said he didn't So 601 No he did Yeah Oh wait he tried
No
I'm happy
Nah he beat that night
In the bathroom
I don't know
Y'all are gonna get
Someone coming forward
I don't know what
She was talking to me about
Y'all shit sound way wilder
Than Henny Palooza
It wasn't any of us
So whatever
Yeah y'all stole our idea
Y'all stole our idea
They stole our whole fucking
Yeah we was having
Henny Palooza
Before we even knew
It was Palooza
Nah for real
Want some real shit
I was having E&J Palooza
Nightpool Palooza
Joe by the fireplace Palooza
Y'all should've
Monetized it
Relax
Joe by the fireplace Palooza
That was a Palooza
That'd be a funny flyer
You by the fireplace
At least five times
Out of the week
But yeah
Harvey Weinstein
Said he
600 women
600 women coming forward
For that
I don't believe that
I don't believe
He did that
And that's 600 that
Came forward
That nigga 100%
Did all that shit
No I'm not saying
He wasn't inappropriate
With some women
600
That's crazy He was wild He's done a lot of movies Yeah but all that shit. No, I'm not saying he wasn't inappropriate with some women. 600?
That's crazy. He was wild.
He's done a lot of movies.
Yeah, but 600 is crazy.
That's a lot of people
on set.
That's a lot of rap parties.
Yo, first of all,
you know what 600 women
look like standing in a room?
That's why, yeah.
Like, if it was 100 women
in here,
and by the time we go
to our Spectre,
it was 300 bitches
in there last night.
Yo, you might sell out
Highline Bullring.
That's just what men do.
We see 50 women, and we be like, yo, it was fucking lit. It was like 400 chicks in there last night. Yo, you might sell out Highline Ballroom. That's just what men do. We see 50 women, and we be like, yo, it was fucking lit.
It was like 400 chicks in there last night.
Nigga, it was 50 girls in there last night.
That's just what men do.
Like, we see 50 women, and it just, the number explodes.
Like, yo, it was like 500 bitches in there last night.
And then you have the guy that says they was all ready, too.
Oh, yeah.
That's Maul.
And none of them was ready.
That's Maul.
Hold up.
That is exactly who Maul is
whenever I said a chick was ready
was she not ready
did somebody not beat
she was not ready
who
all of them
nah that's not true
if I ever
if I tap Rory
and be like yo
shorty right there is ready
not saying he gonna smash
Rory's gonna say
I am involved
and don't speak to me that way
ever again
no I'm not saying
I'm not saying ready for him
I'm just saying ready for somebody.
One of the fellas that's in the room.
That's what I mean.
And by the end of the night,
I'll say the next week when we all link up again,
somebody smash Shorty.
That's all I'm saying.
So where was I wrong at?
That's all I'm saying.
I wish y'all really knew how retarded this nigga was, man.
All right, man.
Just let me know when I've been wrong.
But Maul is the guy that says they all ready.
Everybody's ready.
Okay.
Maybe they be ready.
I don't know.
They're never ready when a nigga says they're ready.
Ever.
I got two coming, and they both ready.
Yeah.
Who is this number?
Get out of here, nigga.
It's M.
He heard us.
He heard us already.
He's fed the fuck up.
It's M calling you.
M is going to fuck you niggas up.
What's on your list?
Did you pull up the Chanel West Coast shit?
Because we do need to analyze and break down that entire video.
That's the best video in the world.
Who's Chanel West Coast?
Don't ask any questions.
Actually, all of your questions will be answered.
Just some fire you're not.
Chanel West Coast is basically the female version of Rory East Coast. actually all of your questions will be answered. Just some fire you're not shooting up on you.
You know West Coast
is basically the female version
of Rory East Coast.
East Coast Rory.
That was so bad
it was funny.
That's Chanel West Coast
That joke was so terrible
it was kind of funny.
That's Rory East Coast.
That is.
What do you mean
Chanel Coast
having common moments?
Because if Rory
couldn't get in the club
I could see him reacting
and say what Chanel did.
Yo this shit is mad whack anyway. She was trying to get into heaven. Okay are we just getting jokes off? That was Rory couldn't get in the club, I could see him reacting to what Chanel did. Yo, this shit is mad whack anyway.
She was trying to get into heaven.
Okay, are we just getting jokes off?
That was Rory when he was on his Rory rage.
Have y'all ever seen me behave that way in anything?
I've seen Rory behave that way.
No, you haven't.
Name a time.
Name, go ahead.
I'm your OG.
Name a time.
You have behaved that way, drunk.
Len, you know me of all people.
I'm your OG.
Be calm when I'm drunk. I don't know. I got to think. Len, you know me of all people. Be calm when I'm drunk.
I don't know.
I got to think.
I've never seen Rory fired up, really, honestly.
But he's a redhead Irish, so I know he's definitely been fired up.
I can get there.
I just don't do that.
I would never do that.
I don't go to clubs like that, period.
Why would I do that outside a club?
Yeah, I don't go to clubs.
No, I'm saying if you were to go to a club, that'd happen.
No.
I don't want to be there to begin with, so me getting denied would just give me an excuse
to leave. I'd be happy. I could see you turning up a little bit, though. No. I don't want to be there to begin with, so me getting denied would just give me an excuse to leave.
I'd be happy.
I could see you
turning up a little bit, though.
No.
Not gonna happen.
I could see it.
Henny Palooza is all the niggas
that couldn't get in the club.
That's a lot.
That's the club for all the...
Y'all are just really
giving a bunch of...
That's funny.
Joe's on a roll today.
Joe, what happened?
What happened?
What happened at your date job today?
Tell me.
I'm saying it.
You're just making shit up.
What's going on, man?
Yes, that's exactly what I'm here to do.
You're just completely lying.
Yes.
That's what we're doing.
I don't really hate him.
I'm making it up.
Yes, I am lying.
That's funny, though.
God forbid we lie about you.
You turn into Chanel West Coast outside the club.
Please.
Yes.
Please.
I don't even sound believable.
Yeah, it does. You always scream. Your calm voice is screaming. I don't even go outside the club. Please. Yes. Please. I don't even sound believable. Yeah, it does.
You always scream.
Your calm voice is screaming.
I don't even go to the club.
That's a lie, too.
You used to be at Avenue
all the time.
Yeah, he ain't doing that
at Avenue, though.
Because his cousin
could get him in,
not because he was good there.
They can see how you move around.
I can remember a time
that Joe got fired
up outside the club.
See?
I'm going to let us lie.
They all just lie. It's about them. In St. Louis up outside the club. See? I'm going to let us lie. They all just lied.
It's about them.
In St. Louis at the strip club.
He was tight.
What they did.
They wouldn't let us in.
Come on, because it's St. Louis, my nigga.
Getting denied at St. Louis is crazy, though.
Come on, man.
Getting denied at a club in St. Louis.
Oh, I remember that strip club.
Yeah, they wouldn't let us in that strip club Oh no I was mad
Cause we didn't even
It wasn't even like a plan to go there
It was right next door to the venue
We saw it next door
And said okay we got some time to kill
Let's go over there
They was feeling like a gentleman's club that night
Had some square ass nigga outside
In a fucking Marshalls tux
With a flashlight.
Oh, y'all wasn't dressed appropriately for the
gentleman's party.
I forgot what it was.
Someone didn't have their ID.
Nah, homeboy was a dick.
He was a dick.
We walked in and then
we ended up turning around.
Do you know the bars I spit?
That's what you was doing?
Alright, so now Rory's sister Chanel is out there wiling now.
This is old, but it's so great that we had to talk about it.
This is one of the – I vote this is like a top three vid damn near of the year.
Chanel West Coast was – what club was that, Maul?
You own all the clubs in L.A.
Where was that at?
I don't know.
I'll have to see.
You're about to play, right?
Yeah.
All right.
Maul was the one that denied her.
That is Maul.
We're going to get into who Maul is, too.
I got some questions for Maul.
Okay.
Oh, it's Poppy.
Chanel walks up with a group of eight.
Chanel, look.
Whoa, time out.
We're just going to keep on.
It's important information.
Wait, so clearly there's something that we missed in the video.
I think she tried to get in before her crew came with her.
And something happened because he was off that. Yeah, he told the video. I think she tried to get in before her crew came with her. and something happened
because he was off that.
Yeah, he told the dude.
Yo,
she said,
they're with us,
pointed to eight people.
He said,
then they'll come in.
You go home.
So,
her trying to say, nah, they good, they with me.
No, they are good.
You're not good.
All right, so let's be very clear.
When you are the are we good point person.
Yeah, the one that says it stops at the guy with the hat.
Yes.
Yeah, boy, you better make sure y'all are good, man.
You better make sure that your are we good card is good.
You can't walk up to the thing like y'all good
and then the nigga tell you to go home.
Wait, no, but he said they're good.
You're not good.
And then told her where to go.
There was other places she could have went.
Don't even get food.
Don't hit the diner.
So that's when i thought that her pride
and her face falling on the floor would have kicked in it did but no
you might have missed it but she just said
and by the way i also want to, she says she's with six girls.
There's three men around her.
See, this is what I just, go back to what I just said.
There's 50 girls, but there's 100 girls in here.
There's one girl next to her.
Yo, she's cursing him out.
I'm going to get your ass out.
Hey, Pio. She's right.
She changed the number again.
My house popping, nigga.
You trash, nigga. What's going on, Chanel?
What's going on? What's going on, Chanel? TMZ is the greatest. What's going on Chanel What's going on
What's going on Chanel
TMZ is the greatest
What's going on Chanel
That is the greatest
Come on
Ever
Hey what's going on Chanel
What's going on
Yo that's the TMZ line
Any person holding the camera
As soon as you hear
What's going on
You know it's a TMZ camera
Yeah
That's like the world star version
Of screaming world star
What's going on
Yo that was unbelievable
Marvin Gaye is the last nigga That asked what's going on And see how wants to know what's going on Marvin Gaye is the last
nigga that asked
what's going on
and see how that ends
yeah
what's going on Chanel
what the fuck I look like
fucking bitch
what happened Chanel
fuck them
y'all think you the shit
that's why you security
but wait
and there's mad people
on the line in this club
and there's a phantom right there
all of this is bad
you can't wild out you can't wild out in front of phantoms nah you gotta There's bad people on the line in this club. And there's a phantom right there. All of this is bad.
You can't wild out in front of phantoms.
Nah, you got to kind of put your cool on a little bit.
The whole line looking at her like she trash.
The security we got, bitch.
Security loves to hold out whoever the fuck they can. She telling them.
Because they insecure about their own rights.
Wish you could be on television, bitch.
Bitch, nigga.
Chanel West Coast.
Say something else.
Rory's here.
The number changed again?
Did she say eight hot girls?
Yeah, it changed again.
And your man from the Black Eyed Peas, she said.
What's wrong with them?
Well, see, now that's where I got to slow you down here, Chanel Westcott.
Isn't that who you want in the club?
That is exactly who you want to let in the club.
Absolutely.
All of the escort bitches that suck dick and give it up for money. That is the club. That's the club. Absolutely. All of the escort bitches that suck dick and give it up for money.
That is the club.
That's the club.
What do you think
we going to the club for?
To hear fucking self,
self spin,
spin a hot set?
The Prince of New York?
His self spin a hot set.
So we could tweet
self killed it last night?
To hear self spin a hot set.
Self is my nigga, man.
I never know who's DJing by the way.
Self is my man.
Why is that funny?
It's just funny.
I never know who's DJing.
It's funny when a nigga's name is just yourself.
Self, yeah.
That's just what you're going to call yourself.
Hmm.
Self.
Yeah. Yeah. Bod. Body this nigga.
Oh wait, she's still going.
Oh, this is awesome.
She on the phone texting Rory.
Just when you think it's over.
Look, nobody even pay her no mind.
Little Pump is not black.
If one more motherfucker asks him if he's Little Pump, y'all racist.
Little Pump is not black.
He's black. So don't fucking ask him if he's Little Pump, y'all racist. Lil Pump is not black. He's black.
So don't fucking ask him if he's Lil Pump.
Y'all racist.
This nigga don't look black, though.
And he does look like Lil Pump.
And he does look like Lil Pump.
Chanel West Coast.
I don't know who that is.
She's a rapper?
She, uh...
Some girl Ice like.
She started on Rob Dyrdek's show.
She was the white girl that was quiet,
and then all of a sudden they gave her a platform,
and we're like, wow.
I was about to say, I'm still lost.
I hate Rob and Big.
Don't worry.
Just stop this shit that you do, man.
Now y'all don't know what Rob and Big is.
What?
I know both of my lines.
It sounded like you said Rob and Dyrdek.
Rob Dyrdek.
That's his name from Rob and Big.
He had his own show after that.
He was a very, very famous guy. Robin Dyrdek. Rob Dyrdek. That's his name from Robin Big. He had his own show after that.
He was a very, very famous guy.
Who knows that Rob's name from Robin Big was Rob Dyrdek?
A lot of people.
I do.
Y'all are just lying right now.
I'm not lying. That better not be a Supreme Jean jacket.
It is.
For sure.
All right, Maul.
What's up?
What?
What's up?
What are you doing?
You don't like my jacket?
Who are you?
No, nigga.
That's his ass.
Okay.
Thank you.
What does it say even?
It says trash.
What do you mean?
Is it Egyptian cotton?
It's a bathrobe that he wore outside.
Oh, you guys making fun of me now?
Joe is definitely a hipster, yo.
I'm looking at you now. He's king hipster. Like the Vans with no socks. Oh, you guys making fun of me now? Joe is definitely a hipster, yo. He's deep. He's
king hipster. Like the Vans with no socks.
And it's such a hipster thing
to try to call everyone else a hipster when you're
really the hipster. That's like the
definition kind of of it. I've never worn socks.
Joe's going to go to Complex with just a mustache
next week. I never want to go to Complex.
Cool glasses.
Some cool glasses.
Y'all perception of Joe is all fucked up.
It's too much.
No, your self-perception is wrong.
Roy, are you going to give us a fucking...
Here's my question for you, nigga.
How you Christmas shopping without a job?
Let's get an unemployment update from you.
You scam credit cards.
Keep up.
It's pretty fucking easy.
Roy been scamming for a long time.
How have y'all been Christmas shopping?
I haven't Christmas shopped.
I don't Christmas shop.
I'm a little disappointed that I have to do it this year.
You got a lot of Christmas shopping to do.
No, the fuck I don't.
I got a kid and a girl.
You got two kids.
One who is not here and don't know what the fuck Christmas is,
and I ain't really sure I want to teach him what y'all little American Christmas is.
Where are you from?
You from Little America.
You about to be born in Jersey.
How will I ever
know where I'm from thanks to you?
Ooh.
Joe is definitely half white in his family too.
Probably.
I ain't probably half white.
Yeah, you said you was from Switzerland or some shit.
No, I said my mom's was wild and one.
Wait, what?
Mom said that shit.
I have to check it.
It's cool you Swiss.
Yes.
That record is trash.
Wait, I really did want an unemployment update for real.
I'm pushing.
Now that Hank Palooza's over, now I'm like really unemployed.
But I will say, UPS sends me emails all the time for applications.
You're good.
I don't really understand that big line.
UPS is hiring.
I'm looking at the benefits.
This looks like a solid job.
Did you retire?
Well, Big said, don't be mad.
UPS is hiring.
He said it with a little tone.
It was a little condescending.
I can't hear.
Nah. And listen, look what happened. Rappers get killed. UPS is hiring like yeah he said it with a little tone like I can't yeah and listen rap
and look what happened
rappers get killed
a UPS guy lives
pretty long life
do they
did you send the app back
uh
no I did not yet
you gotta get your references straight
yeah which I was gonna ask y'all
uh
can I give them
y'all numbers
for a reference
100% give them mine
I think Maul is the number one guy.
And tell them I will be anxiously awaiting their call.
I'll call them.
They typically ask, when are they usually free?
I'll put 12 a.m. to 12 a.m.
Yeah, no, I'm free, nigga, whenever they want to kick it.
I got mad.
I've been waiting for somebody to call me and ask me about Rory.
Tell them he's your OG.
That's what I'll put as reference. OG. Yeah, call my OG and ask me about Rory. Tell him he's your OG. That's what I put as reference.
OG.
Yeah, call my OG and ask.
Well, I thought that was a given
that Rory would put his OG.
I don't know.
Telling somebody you are their OG
is disrespectful, man.
That's crazy.
Wait, what are we talking about?
Unemployment.
Oh, no, I don't care about
unemployment anymore. So you're not sending the app back? Yeah,ment. Oh, no, I don't care about unemployment anymore.
So you're not sending the app back?
Yeah, I'm going to.
I got to get my references in order.
I got to redo my resume.
You're going to take your time with the app.
Yeah, I got to go to Staples and get the really thick paper.
Like, I can't just, you know, I got to get a letterhead and shit.
Is that still the way that they do resumes and shit?
Get my mom to proofread it.
No, I don't think so.
No, they don't.
It's all online.
Oh, I'm about to say.
But when you do go in for an interview,
What is on your resume?
My resume's fire.
I believe it.
I do believe that,
just because you're white.
That's just what I put at the top.
I just put white.
Yes.
Yes.
Well, we should definitely bring this guy in.
What'd you put on Supreme's app?
That was funny. that was funny Joe
How does your resume look hmm my resume look like your frock collection
I'm gonna stop my resume them also why you going in my frocks cuz you got a flock of frocks, man
I don't know what's going on. Hold on. What was your resume before the Complex job? What did you go in and talk to Noah about?
What did you hand Noah to do the Complex show?
Formerly Def Jam.
Didn't Noah leave?
I was self-employed for 10 years in between.
What'd you put, man?
Come on.
Y'all might have heard me.
Don't, don't.
I want to know.
Y'all might have heard me on Slaughterhouse last.
Y'all might have heard me.
That's Joe's resume.
Y'all might have heard me on Slaughterhouse's. Y'all might have heard me. That's Joe's resume.
Y'all might have heard me on Slaughterhouse's last effort.
Y'all heard that? Last effort.
On Slaughterhouse's last effort.
You know what I mean?
Y'all might have heard me on The Breakfast Club, you know.
Mall.
Mall.
Y'all might have heard me at Sin City.
You heard me at Sin City.
Joe's resume is full of y'all might have heard me.
I hate when rappers say that Y'all might have heard me on
You know the joint with
No we didn't
That's why you're here
So we can try to hear you
We might not have heard you nowhere
Shut up
I don't have a resume
I've never made a resume
I've never
I've never had a resume
Ever
No we assume that
We were joking
We definitely don't think you had a resume
I never even I've never even sat and thought of the lies ever. No, we assume that. We definitely don't think you had a resume.
I've never even sat and thought of the lies that people normally put on resumes.
Now, this is his resume right here. It's the
album description for Rage on the Machine.
What is that description that Ian wrote?
Nobody is safe. This hard-nosed
vet speaks the truth, Farks.
Who wrote that, man?
Hard-nosed vet.
You are a hard-nosed vet.
You are definitely a hard-nosedose How did I not know that?
How did I not know that you were a Hard Nose Vet?
That might be crazier
Than the XXL cover
Yo Joe wait no no no
Is that what that really says?
Way up
Yo call me
Why you looking at me?
I just found out
you a hard-nosed vet.
Don't do that.
I'm pausing this.
Nah, nah, nah.
Nah, sit down, nigga.
You a hard-nosed vet?
Let's address this.
You a hard-nosed vet?
Barks was dying
to fucking get the fuck out of here.
I'm a hard-nosed vet.
Apparently you are.
I just didn't know.
My fault, my nigga.
Hold on.
Hold on.
And none of us are safe.
Who else is a hard-nosed vet?
Can we make a hard-nosed vet list?
We need a hard-nosed vet list, my nigga.
That's what we need.
For real, for real.
That might rival the XXL cover of Eminem and his fresh crew Get ready to rhyme
Nah that's way better
Nobody is safe
Yo Joe
Joe why aren't we safe?
Why aren't we safe bro?
I want to know why we're not safe
Nobody is safe from this
Nobody is safe
From the lyrical miracle
Joe is definitely the lyrical miracle guy
Sometimes I didn't know from the lyrical miracle. Joe is definitely the lyrical miracle guy.
Boy, y'all are funny sometimes.
Sometimes.
Oh, that's why y'all.
I didn't know.
I didn't know that you... You're a little dangerous, man.
Why?
This is why Maul is dangerous.
He's a hard-nosed vet, too?
Because when you crack...
Maul's one of those niggas,
when you crack on him,
you better be aware
that his brain
is prepping one to cook you.
No, I just didn't...
I couldn't even get
none of my good bullshit,
this bum ass outfit you got on Joe Cook before you come up with.
I didn't know that you were a hard nose vet.
You didn't know that.
You didn't know I was a hard nose vet.
I knew you were a vet.
I didn't know you were hard nose.
You had seen me be hard nose.
A hard nose vet.
We got to make a hard nose vet list.
Who else is on the hard nose vet list?
Top five hard nose vets.
Petey Crack is definitely a hard nose vet. Hard nose vet. J. else on the hard no five hard nose yeah pd crack is definitely a hard nose vet hard nose vet jr writer hard nose i'm a hard nose vet j hood is a hard nose vet
joe's a hard nose lyrical miracle i don't see why that's so funny nobody is come on bro you know a
hard nose who says hard maybe part of the reason why people clown me so much is because my friends do, and I allow it.
The therapist says that might be because I lack self-love.
All right.
So anyways, with that said, moving on.
What's up with your homegirl, Jocelyn?
Your old coworker speaking of resumes.
Oh, no, that's real funny.
I got that right queued up.
You want to get to it now? I know nothing about it.
I saw it on the list. I'm curious.
I just like beef.
Love and hip-hop correspondent.
Is this thing on? I am not the love and hip-hop
correspondent. You absolutely are. No, I am not.
Am I? It's on your resume.
Senior correspondent.
Oh, hold up up this is crazy
now let me give an air horn or something man hold up
no that's just right let me turn it up a little bit
all right now brand new it's old, but still.
Brand new.
Exclusive.
Don't be startled.
Here comes another one.
Cypher don't get gassed.
Yeah.
New shit with the echo?
Yes.
Clue echo.
What about when they used to close the jail cell on Hot 97?
Jocelyn, yes.
Slay jail cell.
Cell.
Yes.
Anyways.
No, listen.
Jocelyn has had enough.
Now, I meant to get to this two weeks ago, too.
God damn it.
This is funny shit. Jocelyn has had enough. R, I meant to get to this two weeks ago too. God damn it. This is funny shit.
Jocelyn has had enough.
Rory wrote some shit for Jocelyn.
So?
It's a little fire, man.
I don't know.
Y'all tried to sweep it
under the rug
because she was killing y'all.
So I'm going to play it
for y'all here
just in case you missed it.
I'm going to translate. you heard what the fuck I said
so already she's body and shit I'm moving silence I get my hits dirty yeah
y'all don't even know They don't even know
Because rap has changed so much
That's true
They want to know
How I feel about it
That's why we don't know
About this record
Because rap has changed
So it clearly has
The climate
Yeah you're right
Yeah anyway
Ooh she said it
She coming at Maul's bro.
He quiet.
And Maul.
Who co-sign Maul?
What?
This is bad.
Why you turn the crack off?
Yeah, man.
For those listening, please use this to get the video. Did we not notice this coming?
I said it.
I said she's...
Nobody is upset at Cardi more than Jocelyn.
That's who Jocelyn was trying to be.
Where's the other verse?
It's just a quick interlude of the car shot.
All right.
She got Kim's in here.
She's really going to ham.
Yo, what is wrong with y'all today?
But why?
I mean, I kind of knew this was going to happen.
I knew she felt some type of way about Cardi's success and all of that. with y'all today. But why? I mean, I kind of knew this was going to happen.
I knew she felt some type of way
about Cardi's success
and all of that,
but was there anything
that Cardi said
that may have just
made her just...
I don't know.
I just wanted to make
some jokes, man.
Oh, okay.
I don't know.
I thought I missed something.
No.
I don't know
if there's any backstories.
Who gives a fuck?
It's just a trash fucking...
Oh, man.
Wait, let me just hear a second alright I don't know
hey save on man you sent me a bad link
man
oh man save on
I'm just saying it's not the whole song but whatever
it was funny enough
can I find the full one on Apple Music
yeah or Spotify title all
streaming I think you can more I told all that shit about your Supreme jacket
and I damn sure toe toe in and bring me back to supreme Scully's from wherever
he was at so I have two supreme Scully's let me tell you all that now before y'all
see me in these Scully's and you mad phony I don't pay you no money you know
yeah everything you tell me is wack you do two years we found any space phony I don't pay you no mind You know that Yeah Everything you tell me Is whack you do two years
He's phony yeah yo
We found that out on Sunday
Them Scullies is hard
I know
Here's a question
I have for you
Maul
Since you're like
The resident
Cool guy in the room
What do you think about
What do you think about
People who enter raffles
To win sneakers
Entering a raffle period Is crazy I think any nigga Entering a raffle period
is crazy.
I think any nigga
that enters a raffle
is crazy.
Wait, don't reveal
the person though.
Okay, I'll say
the scenario
and when we found out.
Oh, this is awesome.
It was Joe,
Ice,
this gentleman
and myself
in the kitchen
talking about sneakers
and this person
was telling where
they got the sneakers
and tried to skip past
the fact that they entered
a raffle
and won the raffle
and kept talking
and I said wait.
He's won like four
of the last five raffles
he's entered.
Are we going to skip
the whole thing?
He's the only one
doing raffles.
That you entered
a raffle connoisseur?
He's definitely
in a fold up chair
and they have the tickets
with the spinny thing
to get the new Nikes.
It's Johnny.
Why would Johnny be entering a raffle contest?
Johnny doesn't seem like he would even need to.
He would know somebody with sneakers.
Johnny wanted the off-white sneakers.
He's from South Jersey, so it's like they do raffles out there.
So that's a heavy raffle area?
Yeah.
And Johnny's cool, so I don't know why he would even be entering a raffle contest.
Yeah.
I think Johnny's a cool dude.
All right, but what do you think about people who enter raffles to wear sneakers?
Yeah, that's crazy.
I miss out on a bunch of sneakers because I'm just not with all this new shit.
I'm not going through all these.
I feel like I'm on an episode of fucking Double Dare trying to get a pair of sneakers at the end.
Like, what the fuck is going on?
Why do I got to do all this to get a pair of sneakers?
Double Dare.
You are mad old that you just referenced Double Dare.
Yeah, Double Dare was just shit. that you just referenced Double Dare yeah Double Dare
was a shit
y'all remember Double Dare
of course
yes mall
I used to be mad
when them niggas
didn't get the slime
I'm like nigga
dig in the nose
the flag is right there
word how I see the nose
on a standard
D fucking TV
and you got the shit
right in front of your face
right
that was a great show
that was a great show
do y'all really want to
get into this
Miguel
wait I have another question for mall before really want to get into this Miguel album
wait I have another question
from all
before I attack Rory
over his Miguel album
I can't believe you thought
that song was terrible
that Miguel record
wait have you heard
Miguel's album
I heard like five joints
over there
I ain't hit a whole album
yet though
but I like
I like what I heard
and that's five records
it was only what
ten records on there I think
twelve I want to say
something like that
it's short
yeah so it's like 45 minutes it's not a long album at all and that's five records. It was only what, 10 records on there, I think? 12, I want to say. something like that, short.
Yeah, so it's like 45 minutes.
It's not a long album at all.
And what is,
Rory,
what did you say you thought about?
Oh,
you said you don't think this album is as bad
as people are saying it is.
Yeah,
I saw a lot of hate when it came out,
which made me not even want to listen to it,
but then I said,
let me give it a fair listen
because I do like Miguel,
and I think it's cool.
I think you guys are crazy for calling it bad.
It's not his best work.
But he's back to the...
Well, I thought Joe was crazy for saying that record with J. Cole was bad.
No, we was just laughing that Cole came on to a Come Through and Chill song
and started talking that political shit.
Oh, okay.
I see what you're saying.
But that's not a bad record, though.
It's an old record.
That's an old record that he brought back and put Cole on to do.
I just got you niggas brainwashed, man.
I'm not buying no album and editing the song to my liking.
Nigga, he put J. Cole on the fucking song.
He J. Cole on the song.
I like the record, though.
I'm not understanding what you're saying.
That's actually probably one of the better records on the album.
Yeah, like how am I brainwashed for thinking that the record is a good record?
No, you brainwashed for thinking that J. Cole talking about Donald Trump on a song called
Come Through and Chill makes sense for the song.
Sometimes that gets you some pussy, though.
Knock it off.
I don't want to fuck no-
Well, if we go back to the Neil Soho conversation, that might get her to come through.
Exactly.
This guy's going to get the Neil Soho riled up.
He's going to get the pussy angry.
Maybe you like aggressive sex.
Who knows?
Y'all keep- I think- Well, I heard five joints off of it so far, and I thought it was- It's going to get the pussy angry. Maybe you like aggressive sex. Who knows? Y'all keep going.
I think,
well,
I heard five joints off of it so far
and I thought it was.
It's cool.
He's back to the kaleidoscope dreams.
Sound to me,
he didn't try to do
the microwave print shit
that he did on Wild Heart.
Yes,
he did.
Yes,
he did.
I didn't.
Well,
what do you think was more Prince-ish?
Wild Heart or this?
This.
Oh, no, this ain't the record I'm trying to play.
You think this is more Prince-ish than Wild Heart?
I think there's a whole Prince segment of this album.
Come on, knock it off.
That's Prince.
That's Prince too, by the way.
Oh wait, where's that other record that told you so shit
all of this is
all these records I'm playing
are Prince
where's that told you so record
that's a Prince record
but what's wrong with it
sounding like a Prince record
the way he's done before
it's nothing
he's always been Prince influenced
did you hear his first album
yeah
that's Prince influenced
it's not
lie to me and say it is
much more R&B
but the direction sounds like R&B albums.
We're not going to have an honest conversation.
Come on, Rory.
How long ago was that?
Let's talk about the last five years of his career,
not the last 10 years of his career.
We will after you answer my question.
Was his first album-
Traditional R&B.
So it was not that way, right?
No.
Kaleidoscope Dreams, next.
There was a couple of Prince-esque records.
It was moving into that space
where he was trying to become more of a musician.
Sure.
And it was definitely Prince-influenced to an extent.
For sure.
But still sounded like Miguel to me.
Right.
Wildheart, on the other hand, felt like he was trying to go to Prince.
He's definitely...
I didn't hate Wildheart.
I didn't hate it, but...
He's using more electric guitar on a lot of his records.
Yeah.
But I don't think you just say, oh, he's trying to sound like Prince.
Like, oh. I don't think he tried to.
I think he kind of went away from him doing that.
I think Miguel is better than him giving us,
where's this shit?
Oh, did I leave it?
Did I erase it?
Than him giving us a song called Banana Clip.
He's better than that.
And in the song,
he's just referencing all the guns and bullets and ammo
yeah that's trash my nigga he from la you don't know his life that is trash that's i'm just i'm
just telling you my opinion even if the music sounds good which it does this is good music
it's him that ruins it he, my love, like a rifle, Draco. Look. There's a war on love, look around
you, and now you about to name every gun in the world?
I still like it.
That's kind of hard.
Yeah, I'm into it.
That don't do it for me. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.
Maybe I don't want the neo-Soviet. Maybe I want the hood chick to come through.
We're going to compare.
I got to compare to her.
I'm a bit more creative.
When chloroceptic drop, we're going to compare to two records.
Then Miguel's telling me there's a war.
When chloroform comes out.
There's a war on love.
Grab your Draco.
No, I'm sorry, bro.
I'm not rolling, Miguel.
I'm not rolling with that.
That is a lazy effort.
That is a lazy writing.
You've got a
great composition and that's what you did.
That's just him trying to fit in the trap shit, I think.
That's trash. It's trash.
I don't disagree with that assessment. That is trash.
I need this same. You can't make
kaleidoscope dreams and then make
banana clip. There's a war
on love. Grab your
drago. Huh?
Can't balance? Man.
I like this one.
I know.
His love won't stop.
Got that extendo.
So you just don't like the metaphor?
No, I think the metaphor is cool.
For me personally. This whole
shit. That? No, nigga.
No. I'm asking what? you just don't like the gun
metaphor it's love it's horrible writing it's horrible it's horrid right it's like nails on
a chalkboard writing that's what i don't like as a writer that's what it sounds like okay so
is his writing like that on the other 11 or just that one in particular all right let's do it
here's another one.
This is the one record.
This is another one that he ruined himself.
This is good music.
I don't need to hear you say City of Angels
nine million times over this great loop.
Come on, man.
Let's call a fucking spade a spade.
What do you think about the intro with Ross?
With Ross? I like it. It's a great song uh pineapple skies i like it cool uh skywalker skipped i've
no way podcast how i felt about that record when it came out yeah not on board i like banana clip
uh hate it wolf record i hate that one too harem has actually been the only song that people that were hating that that is the song that is the
standout track on this album it is the best track on this album it's the only track on this album
that stands and you can put it on any miguel album and that is my point about miguel i think
miguel's too talented for these other throwaway records banana Banana Clip is a throwaway. You're not telling me that you went in the studio and wrote that down.
You're focusing on that one record.
No.
I played City of Angels, too.
Okay.
Play Wolf.
Yeah, I got to listen to that.
This whole run.
I don't mind Wolf.
I like Wolf.
I don't mind Wolf, either.
I'm extra with Wolf.
City of Angels, I said I did skip that one halfway through.
I didn't like it.
Everything after that.
No. Anointed is great. Now was kind of, I felt like he was trying to do, angels i said i did skip that one halfway through i didn't like it everything after that but no
anointed is great now was kind of i felt like he was trying to do what was the outro on kaleidoscope
dreams was it was it called kaleidoscope dreams no candle and sun yes yeah he was trying to do
that felt like he was trying to do that it didn't meet there because that song is one of his best
songs no let me ask you a question when candle and his son was on that album right did it feel
my favorite mcgill song but did it feel like he was trying to put that song on that album, right? My favorite Miguel song. But did it feel like he was trying to put that song on that album?
Did it feel like
at that juncture of the album
it was,
hey, I need this song here
like it does here
on this album?
No, I think we're
saying the same thing.
I felt like he was
trying to redo that
and it felt forced.
So now I didn't like
but anointed I like.
Then you're agreeing
with why I don't like
I never said I liked
every song on this album.
I just don't think
it's as bad as y'all
keep saying it is
no I'm saying
you're agreeing with
my overall
my overall assessment
if you can admit to that
which is what
this was forced
there was throwaway records
on Kaleidoscope
Dreams
and I'm not holding him
to that
cause if that's
like I said
if that's his best album
and that was your peak
then cool
I just don't think that
but two efforts later well I think that is his best album I don't know if he peaked but to me that's his best album and that was your peak then cool I just don't think that but two efforts later. Well I think that is his best
album. I don't know if he peaked but to me that's his
best album. Well if I have to judge it
on the music that he's putting out now
then he's peaked
and there's nothing wrong with that. I would like to hear him
with a really good producer. I agree with Parks
I think him trying to do everything
I don't like when artists try to do everything
and let me point this out
not that this matters to anyone,
but someone said it to me and I scratched my head.
I'll say it to y'all.
Last two albums recorded in Los Angeles.
First two albums recorded in New York.
It's definitely something to be said for location.
Does that matter to any of you?
Yeah.
Where you record your album?
Yeah.
Well, these guys don't make music.
Yeah, I mean, that has something to do with it,
but I think more so it might be him,
like what he's going through, where he's at in his life.
I think, yeah, I'm with you, Parks.
I think environment.
Yeah, to creators, the environment absolutely matters.
So now.
Yeah, but is he recording in LA or is he living in LA?
Well, he recorded in LA.
I don't know where he lives.
I think that goes more towards people that collab a lot.
Because you see when rappers move to L.A.,
how many more features get added to their album
because that's where everyone lives
and they're all in the same studios.
Yo, everybody really did pick up and move to L.A., man.
For sure.
Yeah.
I was checking the mailbox,
and I didn't see it in there
but I'm just gonna assume it's the mailman and and he lost my invite to
Khaled's party that was at his house him and puff everyone was there I know he
sent me an invite yeah Hayden or Or maybe you just weren't invited.
Nah.
No.
Okay.
I'm just going to roll with it.
I would not invite your OG.
Your Khaled's OG too?
No, I said you.
They would invite me.
It would say that.
It would say OG you're invited to?
No, it would say Rory's OG.
Rory's OG.
That party looked small.
I don't need you to repeat everything. And I don't know why you think that's so fucking funny anyway. That's OG. Rory's OG. That party looked... Mom, I don't need you to repeat everything.
And I don't know why you think that's so fucking funny anyway. That's hilarious.
Because you can't tell somebody that you are an OG.
That's not how that works.
Listen, so I didn't get an invite to that party,
but all this time that Khaled was taking pictures
in front of the big, nice fireplace and shit,
I thought it was in Florida for some reason.
No, it was in LA.
It's in LA.
I thought it was in Miami. Me too. It was in Miami in LA. It's in LA. I thought it was in Miami.
It was in Miami.
Definitely was.
I thought so too.
Because he was riding around
the little bay on the jet ski.
But everybody keeps saying
that the party was at his house
in LA.
Plus, he probably got two houses.
Khaled's killing shit right now.
Khaled is really killing shit.
As an industry insider,
I'm telling y'all,
it was in LA.
So we can just dead that.
You talking about the...
Let me just dead that. Shut up about the Then we just dead that.
Shut up, Rory.
As an industry insider.
Rory is an industry insider.
That's true.
Trash.
You inside the industry.
What are you talking about?
No, I'm not.
You work at Complex.
I'm a vendor.
You do a morning show
for the industry.
I'm a vendor.
I'm a vendor.
I'm a vendor.
I'm an independent vendor.
The same as in music.
Body draw.
For an hour.
You'll be up there for a while.
He know all the security people
to check in people. Hey, how y'all doing?
Joe one of them niggas at work.
He's got a coffee guy.
Yeah, get the fuck out of here.
He's got a coffee guy.
I talk to people at work.
That's what we're saying. I talk to people at work. Yes, Maul.
Yeah, that's what we're saying.
You talk to people at your job.
Yeah, you short again?
Yeah, you're a coffee guy.
Just give it to me.
All right, don't do the next time.
Yo, all right.
You short again is hilarious.
You short again.
Gotta be quicker with that
With that money on my butt
You know I'm your OG
Wait is that still a thing?
You can't keep coming short
People coming up short
I'm pretty sure
I don't know which
Cause I don't even know
How niggas sell drugs anymore
I don't either
Niggas ain't stand
Alright more
Nigga gonna throw that out there
I don't either
But niggas ain't stand
On the corner still right?
I don't think so
I have pointed that
Drug dealing has to have Had to evolve with the times, no?
Well, now they sell pills.
Do they sell it online?
I'm sure Instagram is pretty...
Is it on Amazon?
Yeah, I'm sure there's some...
And I've noticed in the city, I don't hear as much when I walk by people saying,
yo, I got the kush, I got the kush.
That's true.
I got that loud.
I haven't been offered coke downtown in Manhattan in a while.
I know, shit is changing.
That's how you know Roy's a hipster.
He walks.
Last time I walked into the city.
Nice try.
Well, listen to you.
That joke fell.
It's cool, man.
You've had some good jokes today.
You do that a lot.
Anytime the joke is effective, you say it fell.
Because it did.
No one laughed.
No one laughed.
It was quiet.
Anytime it's effective, he's the first one to floor.
Nope.
That was a fail joke.
It's the fight work, nigga.
You're my OG.
I got to tell you when you're wrong.
Every time the joke, you say it failed.
Wait, I was about to get.
Oh, let me tell you what else you niggas is doing.
You niggas is money laundering through Bitcoin.
You think you're slick.
That's number one.
And number two.
You're a snitch.
Damn.
And number two, another thing about Bitcoin. Boy, I'm sick of you niggas, boy. You're a snitch. Yeah. Word. And number two, another thing about Bitcoin. Boy,
I'm sick of you niggas, boy. You trendy fuckity fuck. Oh, you niggas are not buying
Bitcoin. It's a lie.
I want to be the first
to say it. I see a lot
of you with the lies.
Okay. So what's
wrong with that? Maybe I want to tweet boss up. Just bought
some stocks. Because this is the problem.
Because this is the problem. Because this is the problem.
Let me tell you what the problem is.
Can't hashtag boss up?
Stocks is the one thing that you lying ass niggas have to chill out about.
Stocks is not like, even if you find a hot stock, you ain't supposed to share it with
the whole fucking universe.
I want y'all to shut up.
Even though, I mean, Bitcoin, the cat's out the back.
You're doing a lot of hating over here.
About what?
Joe's a hater.
That's true.
People talking about Bitcoin.
Yeah, but niggas got to stop.
I'm actually trying to get some.
And it's expensive.
It's very expensive.
It's going to keep getting expensive.
That's why Joe's taking more people out of buying.
That's why Joe mad.
If you broke ass niggas at home.
That shit about to fall off.
Broke niggas at home.
So, yeah, I just dot bodied that.
A hundred shares.
How you body buying stock?
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How you body buying stock? How you body buying think of man oh well let me get back to my fucking uh list since we're not gonna argue about miguel anymore something else with yeah why does this thing never recognize my face because you always
look different oh so this is what's funny now now i don't care about uh i try to stay out of
people's personal business so i'm i'm never gonna talk about no you don't no i do any nigga that say
he always tried to stay out of people's personal business never try to stay what i mean i mean domestic anyone that says they mind their business
usually don't ever mind they but my job is to mind other people's business in some variation
i suppose but what i'm saying is now i forgot what the fuck i was saying damn you don't
oh i'm talking about people's domestic, like their relationship business. Yeah, that's a lie too.
But anyway, hey man, so Cam and Juju broke up, but I don't care about that part.
I'm hearing a whole lot, like Sin looked at me the other day and said, yo, I'm not having fun.
Damn.
I was like, so, nigga?
You're pregnant now.
It's a little too late for that.
What the fuck is you talking about? It was worse so then she she shocked me a bit with that and i'm and i'm lying of course just for the sake of the
story but it did come up she shocked me and i said to myself yo you knew fucking kids man
i can't believe that i'm not having fun ism anymore is a real line i can't believe that
you millennials have accepted that wait what does she? You could never tell your girl back in the day I'm leaving you because you're not funny anymore.
And she obliged.
And she listened.
Oh, my bad.
Yeah.
Hold on.
How you become a victim?
Wait, wait, wait.
Back to what Cyn said.
What does she mean she's not having fun?
No, no, no.
She didn't really say that.
Oh.
No, that's what Cam said about the juju relationship.
Oh, Cam said that.
He left her.
Cam said they broke up because he wasn't funny anymore.
And I understand what he's saying.
Only men understand fun.
Women don't understand fun.
Women are happier when there's less fun.
And especially, I can see when you're getting more brand conscious and you're worried about your look and how you're perceived.
I thought that was part of his brand.
No, not Cam.
I'm talking about her.
Oh, you think she's becoming more branded?
Well, no.
I'm taking that from him, from his Breakfast Club interview.
I hate when people say their brand.
I hate that.
Me too.
There's something about that.
Even if it is a brand, it's still a brand.
That's my brand.
I'm not going to destroy my brand.
Bitch, you made $200 last month. It's funny that you say that. What fucking brand i'm not gonna destroy my bridge bitch you made 200 last it's
funny it's funny that you say that brand are you it's real funny you say that because just earlier
i was thinking about someone who shall remain name was beating me down about their brand and
it made it made me wonder what is that what is a brand what is a brand what do you have to do to
be able to call yourself a brand? I wanted to ask.
So I'm asking.
I'm going to start with the basic.
Have an LLC.
Let's start right there.
Can't be a brand without an LLC.
Or taxes, unfortunately.
That's a couple hundred dollars in lawyer fees.
Okay, so everyone can indeed do that.
Of course.
So now once I do that, I am a brand.
In this day and age of social media,
everybody feels like they're a brand because they have a website.
I think what people think their brand is is their perception,
which isn't true because it has to do with money.
And people think their brand is all perception.
You niggas are not brands.
You just have a Twitter.
Word.
Yeah, at name is not a brand.
Yo, I hate to be the bearer. Well, no, I love being the bearer of that. You n have a Twitter. Word. Yeah, at name is not a brand. Yo, I hate to be the bearer.
Well, no, I love being the bearer of that.
You niggas are not brands.
Y'all not branded.
I'm serious.
No, you're right.
I agree with you.
I agree.
That's why I hate when people say that.
Like, just because a nigga booked you, they don't even get booked.
Just because you have a fucking Twitter.
Yo, are people still getting booked for like hostings and shit like that?
I just saw a flyer with Mariah Lynn and Tahiri and DJ Swift.
You going?
Swift Z or some shit.
I didn't know I was like that.
You going?
So I finally watched the episode of-
Are they even making money anymore?
Because I remember the walkthrough, you could make a little bit of money at one point.
I feel like they're just taking these walkthroughs and these hosting gigs damn near for free just so it looked like they still work.
These bitches just trying to look active.
Yeah.
That is all you niggas are trying to do.
Just so they could, quote unquote, clap back in the IG comments.
They're just building their brand, guys.
Yeah.
I finally watched that episode of Love & Hip Hop.
Oh, but wait, time out.
Before you say that, because Parks just made me think of it.
How long?
All right, this is my last question.
How long do you get?
What time is allotted for you to build your brand before you can't say that anymore?
The more you build it, the more you can talk about your brand.
Not even that.
The more you build it, you don't have to talk about it.
People are going to talk about it for you.
That's the reality okay so michael in 10 years if my brand is not built do i still get to say building my brand
or is it over yeah that's how you build your brand it's by talking about building your brand
so you never get to run out of saying i'm building my brand how are you gonna brand yourself without
your brand no that's when people just gotta asking how many more supplies you need to build your brand.
Yeah, that's what I'm asking.
How much building are you doing?
Normally, when you start to build something midway, midway you can look at your creation and tell if you want to continue it.
You're still at the basement.
You ain't even put two or three floors in the building this year.
Maybe if they got curators, more curators involved with their brand.
I don't ever want to say curators.
Oh, I'm glad that word is out of here.
The curators.
They did get the curators the fuck out of here.
I'm trying to come up with a cool design for this flyer that I'm trying to do,
or image design I'm trying to do for it.
So you're trying to curate it?
Right.
And I really want to use the word curators, but man, I can't.
These niggas fucked it up.
But I want to use it like the real meaning.
What, you're going to have an art exhibit?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Then you can actually use it.
That is exactly what I'm trying to do.
But still, it takes away.
They ruin the work.
Yeah.
You can't say it.
It looks corny.
I'm going to try to make it look cool on my image.
We also got tastemakers out of here,
but then they became influencers,
and we're close to getting influencers out of here.
Who are some of today's influencers?
Some of the biggest brands, Joe. Thank you for asking.
Anyone with above a thousand
followers considers themselves an influencer.
Look at me, Wildman, right there.
Who is this nigga?
You. He's a heavy loser right now.
Word. Look at us collabing on the brands.
No, we're not. We're not collabing on the brands no we're not we're not collabing on the on the
brands um i wasn't on for that fun thing man but whatever are you still having fun in your
relationship 100 what looks like you're having fun we have a lot of fun we do if we don't do
shit else we have fun uh a round of applause for my...
Hold up, man, while I'm talking about my girl.
Let me put a little...
When is the baby due?
Yeah, we have a lot of fun.
When is the baby due?
Soon.
I'm not going to announce it on this podcast,
but it should be any day now.
We're raising a king.
God.
I don't care.
Whatever.
So listen,
Russell Simmons has stepped down from all of his businesses.
Another woman has come forward with claims of inappropriate sexual behavior.
He released.
So Netflix put out the all deaf comedy series this week without his name
attached.
All deaf digital has been moving with regularly scheduled business uh they've made no mention of it i'm
assuming they will not um yeah they shouldn't that would be smart that would just be a bad idea
too um is all deaf like publicly traded though
or did russell just solely own that?
Who took over?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yo, can I ask you something?
He's probably just not the face.
I'm sure he didn't lose any percentage of that.
How does that...
And I'm not...
Are you about to lose all of our women?
No, no, no.
I'm trying to figure something out.
How do you go about...
How does this work like if a woman comes and says he came at me in a you know improper
way sexually 20 years ago like i gotta step down from all my businesses if that's like an accusation
like does she not have to prove that does she not i don't i don't and i'm being serious i don't
understand how that works because if that's the case, every man in power in business somewhere is in danger.
I'm sure that they have some sort of people to back them up, I would think.
But how do you go about proving that is what I want to know.
I don't know.
Well, with other people corroborating your story, I guess.
But I still don't understand how that works.
Like, I don't get it.
Like, a woman could just come to an office with police and say, oh, he sexually assaulted me 19 years ago at the Vibe magazine party.
And I have to step down from all my businesses?
Yeah.
I don't, without proving it?
Well, you don't have to.
They're just doing it to save face.
They're doing it to keep their business.
I'm about to say it takes away nothing of whether it's true or not or anything that did happen to these women these companies will work with advertisers or they'll
work with whatever consumer it is and they don't want to be attached to anything that has to do
with that so unfortunately but what if it's not true this is what it doesn't matter in business
to them i'm not saying this is right or wrong it's just how it is that's crazy they got to keep they
have to just keep their name away from anything that has to do with something like that.
That's crazy.
If it's not,
but no,
let me,
let me interject.
If it's not true,
I would assume that we would hear,
we would hear something to refute the charges or the claims period.
And you would conduct your business that way as well.
Uh,
all the statements that are ever released always allude to,
uh, yes, something happened that night. I don't remember it the way that she ever released always allude to,
yes, something happened that night.
I don't remember it the way that she does.
That's what all the male statements say. So it's enough to tell you something did occur.
And also, what's the alternative, Maul?
If a woman makes these claims, it's very fragile and delicate.
You've got to be careful with even how you refute them
because you come off looking away.
You do.
Okay, here's the thing.
Men in certain positions, right?
You have men like Russell Simmons and Harvey Weinstein.
These are powerful men in powerful places.
They make things happen.
We all have been around events in the industry
and you've been to parties.
A lot of these women go there targeting these type of men let's just be real there are women that go there
that want to meet the man that has the power they want to get in a relationship whatever they want
to if they want to be an aspiring actress singer whatever right they want to go to these parties
to be around these men right if a man asks you to come back to his hotel room with him
right right and the woman agrees to go right what did she think was supposed to happen before she
agreed to go to a hotel room with a man that she just met i agree with you so glad we don't have
sponsors i agree with you but no no but this is what information this is what i've seen making it
okay no for some inappropriate yeah yeah what i've what I've seen. That's not her making it okay for some inappropriate sexual shit to happen.
What I've read in the statements by these women in a lot of these cases is that it's,
that's all cool, that's cool, that's cool, but then when they get there, some overly
aggressive, you can't leave type shit is happening, which is where the problem, that's not good.
Okay, now, if you're saying that somebody can't leave, then that's crazy.
Right.
But what I'm saying is, if you put yourself in these positions, right, because I've been
to parties where I've seen women throw themselves at men, and men are like, yo, show these wild
ones.
Right.
We don't ever go to court and say, yo, she came at me, and she was grabbing on me, and
this, that, and the third, kissing on my neck, like trying to, you understand what I'm saying?
So it's like, where's the line at?
Because now, is Russell Simmons able to say
yo this woman came up to me
in a party
and she just was like
she wanted to be on
in a movie
she wanted to get in a film
and she was just drunk
and she was like
sexually grabbing me
I agree with you
but the line is drawn
no you can't say that
the line is drawn
you can't say any of that
the line is drawn
no
why can't a man say that
well
I'm asking because it's not appropriate it's not Why can't a man say that? I'm wrong.
I'm asking.
Because it's not appropriate.
It's not appropriate for a man to say that a woman's sexually assaulting him?
There's a few reasons why.
But one of them is it's not appropriate.
Because I've seen women throw themselves at men and men weren't interested.
For sure.
And they went really far, you know, grabbing them, pulling on their clothes and grabbing I think women are guilty too.
Yes.
Typically.
There was a recent case of a man who came out
and said he was raped or sexually abused by a woman
and the woman laughed.
There's been a lot of people who just laughed
about Big Shaw the other week with the domestic violence.
Or maybe it was that.
So this is what I'm saying.
But also it is a bit different because,
let's spade a spade,
men are usually bigger and stronger than women.
So when a man is doing something inappropriate sexually she's really at risk the way if a woman was doing
something to a man he could probably defend himself a bit better and let's not act like
there's so much equality uh between genders in corporate america that's true see that's and
that's what i'm saying that's the problem it's like there's no equality it's like you almost at anytime you're alone with a woman now you're at her will like you're at her
mercy because as an artist or as a guy in power if i'm in my hotel room with a female and she
decides next year she wants to say that something inappropriate happened in the hotel room that
night well the reality is you can say that if you people will most likely believe her the reality is that you can refute that i mean you could and that happens
yeah but even if even if i say it didn't happen right because i've seen this too that happens
daily like women press rape charges they don't they don't get you know i understand maul's point
i just think this is a bad time to argue it in this case.
So when is the right time to argue?
Because Kobe was found not guilty of rape and people still call him a rapist.
That's true.
So when is it the right time to address?
He was found not guilty of rape.
And people still refer to Kobe Bryant as, oh, he raped that girl in Denver.
I'm going to read you an excerpt from Russell's book.
And you know context changes things of course okay so with this new information
out of course this reads differently than i'm sure it did when it was written but this says and i
quote it was funny that i became known as a ladies man but i think it was because i was very obsessive
about women russell simmons wrote in his 2002 autobiography life and death
sex drugs money and god i really took no for an answer and i believe my desire for these women
my never giving up wore them down uh wore a lot of them down the hip-hop pioneer and entrepreneur
said he became known for sending girls bouquets of balloons, and I'd do it every day for a week or more.
I'm sure when that was written, it was very sweet and romantic.
Today, it doesn't really help with all of these looming charges.
I mean, that's been the big thing, too,
is that a lot of the people that have been accused of these things
are like, yeah, it was wild.
But Russell admits, and this is what i
will say and and i won't argue maul's point but i do understand what i understand what he's trying
to say but what i will say is this russell has has admitted that you know he was a wild nigga right
like he has he has said this so did louis now he did not go into detail but to acknowledge that and and he seems
to have made some changes in his life that's how it appears i do not know at all well and be clear
i say this is somebody who who had business dealings who had business on the table with
russell and and had to pull away because the op, this ain't, you know what I mean?
So please don't think I'm caping.
I ain't.
I just think that, I mean, when can you acknowledge that you changed?
I guess that's my question.
But sometimes what you've done in the past, you still have to answer for it,
even if you do become a vegetarian and a yoga master.
That's true.
You still need to answer and face the consequences of your behavior.
Of course, we should all forgive people, but when it's certain things like sexual assault, you know, someone doing some coke, you'd be like, all right, well, he was wilding back then.
Right.
You could forgive someone for that.
But when you're on coke and doing these types of things, yeah, you got to face.
Well, to Maul's point, what somebody did say over the weekend in the crib, and hey, we didn't say this, so don't put this on us.
I'm telling you what somebody in the crib said.
Well, if it's an exchange between these Hollywood movie types and the woman in question and the woman agrees to it, isn't that a transaction at that point?
Say again.
Go into detail.
If I'm Harvey Weinstein, big time movie, big wig.
What do you say if you suck my dick, I'll give you a roll. I'm telling you that I got a movie
coming, and
I can guarantee you the roll if the head is
fire, and you then
proceed to do that.
Isn't that then a transaction?
No, because
you can't make...
Legally, if you make something under duress,
it's not illegally...
That's the word I was looking for. Duress. You can't threaten people with shit. That under duress, it's not illegally. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's the word I was looking for.
Duress.
Yeah, you can't threaten people with shit.
That's duress?
That's not duress, man.
What the fuck?
See, this is what I'm saying.
It's so many things when it comes to this shit.
Well, I don't want to be insensitive.
I'm not being, no.
I'm trying.
I'm looking for information.
The way you sound comes off a little.
No, I'm looking for information.
It's insensitive,
and I agree with your sentiment.
My only, but the main rebuttal is that, number one, consent is required at all times.
And B, the gentlemen, for the most part, being accused are coming out and saying, yeah, I was wild.
Duress, compulsion by threat or force, coercion, constraint.
Oh, that is it.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, yeah, no no you can't do that
yeah
what
there's no
man that's fucked up
but how is that
how is that duress
cause she can either
agree to it or not
she's not on a duress
that's duress
if you're threatening
someone's livelihood
no no
how is he threatening
her livelihood
he's not threatening
her livelihood
he's not saying
if you don't suck my dick
you're not gonna
I'm not making
women
I wanna be very clear if you are listening to uh we don't agree with any of that shit no i listen any dude
that's i don't agree with any of that i'm just trying to find out i'm actually shocked that so
many of you niggas are creeps i'm not yeah i'm not i don't know why i always thought i always
always want to shake a nigga hand for most nigga I just assumed that his game is a lawyer.
I mean, I assumed that.
I mean, dudes definitely.
The things that these niggas are doing.
I know a lot of creepy dudes.
I've been to a lot of creepy dudes.
Every other day, somebody is coming out.
But this is what I'm saying.
How do we know which is real and which isn't, though?
They all real.
How do you know that?
Because the guys are saying it's
real all of them also you got to remember i'm not putting russell in this but a lot of these
industry dudes were nerds growing up they didn't get chicks now that they're in this point of power
they do not know how to communicate with chicks except use their power that's true so you have
to know they didn't grow up as the cool person in high school that was always yeah but i don't see
how they don't have the only relationship they person in high school that was always talking shit. Yeah, but I don't see how- They don't have-
The only relationship they have with women is through power.
I'm scared every time we'll talk.
No, I get that.
Also, clearly this is a culture thing to some degree.
Did y'all see Bob McAdoo got fired?
Yeah.
Well, wait.
Why did he get fired?
I see that.
I get it.
Some men are inappropriate.
I understand.
I'm not saying that all these men are innocent.
So did Bob McAdoo.
I'm just saying-
Didn't work.
Back to what you were saying if you know a woman
is at a party at your event and she comes back to your hotel
room and she's like, yeah, I want to get movies.
And you say
that's duress though. Well, how is that duress
though? Because she can easily say no and leave.
I'm not holding her in my room hostage.
She can easily be like, nah, I'm not with that.
You can't just walk up to niggas with an ultimatum.
No, you're in my room And we're having a conversation
No
That's not an ultimatum
We're in the
That's definitely an ultimatum
Now if she has the role
That's the definition of an ultimatum
If she has the role in the movie
And you say
Wait tell me
You can't ultimatum me in my room
You sound nuts
I mean you can't
Ultimatum somebody
Just because they're in your room
You cannot
No no I'm not saying
I'm not saying
No no listen to what I'm saying
I'm saying now
Now if she has the part in the movie,
and Harvey Weinstein has the power to have her kicked out of the movie,
if she, now that's, to me, I understand that.
But now, if you're just at a party, and you're aspiring,
you know you're coming back to my room,
we're talking, we're flirting with each other, whatever,
and that conversation comes up, and you agree,
how did that, how were you under restraint or duress?
Like, if I i say yeah now give
me some head i i i'll get you on the set i'll get your partners move how was that under duress like
you can easily like nah i'm not with that okay cool later bye like i don't understand that maybe
the it's kind of hard it's hard to put yourself in that position by law it's not you by law you
can't do that by law you can't do that. By law, you can't do that. And also, you don't know. And those laws are intended to stop that type of behavior.
The woman can explain it to you, but you can't.
You can't do that.
Yeah, exactly.
Do y'all think Matt Lauer's getting paid?
What do you mean paid?
$30 million from NBC.
No.
He's what, suing?
No, he's not suing.
So he's owed, right?
Yeah, he's owed $30 million.
Oh, he's going to get paid.
Well, it depends what's in his right? Yeah, he's owed $30 million. Oh, he's going to get paid. It depends what's in his contract.
Yeah, that's true.
There's a morals clause in his contract.
Well, then I don't know if he's getting paid.
Well, that's why I'm asking.
Because clearly he's broken the morals clause in his contract.
Well, we can't say clearly.
We don't know what the morals clause entails.
He has a button under.
Yo, you niggas are going to get.
What are y'all trying to get this podcast ruined?
No, I'm just saying
I don't know what the contract says
he has a button under his desk
that locks the door automatically
when women come in
that breaks the morals
I guess I don't know
the full story
yeah so you better shut up Parks
before they hang you
well no I just
I don't know what the morals
he broke it
Katie Couric even said
that all he used to do
was pinch her ass
in the workplace
that's wild
that's some
yeah he was wild
but what i'm
saying is when you're somewhere for that long i'm sure he has dirt on somebody else in that building
sometimes it's it's cheaper to just shut a nigga up it's true that's why i asked if y'all thought
he would get paid or not maybe he won't get paid 30 million but he's gonna get something back back
to your point of wondering if these dudes really are creeps.
All the white niggas get to wild out and get paid.
The white privilege,
I'm telling you.
Bill O'Reilly get to fuck around
and do all that wild shit and leave
with 50 mil.
Matt Lauer.
Jesus.
How do white privilege work?
Anyway.
What are you saying, Rory?
Well.
Speaking of white privilege.
Let me take it over to me.
Let's go to our white privilege correspondent.
Let me throw it to our fucking expert over here.
No, it's funny.
Hipster Bundy.
When you were saying you can't believe some of these dudes is creeps, I had never crossed
my mind that Matt Lauer was a creep because my mother would watch that show when I was
growing up and it would just be in the background.
I never paid attention to him.
Then I started seeing all these clips.
I was like, this dude is a fucking creep.
How did y'all not see this creepy guy was on TV for 35 years?
It's the same thing with Louis C.K.
talking about all that wild shit.
No, he's a creep on air.
Well, I assume all the comedians are creeps.
All the good comedians, you're a creep.
Yeah, they probably are.
Matt Lauer.
I got the Louis C.K. him being a creep.
It made sense.
They just got somebody else too
they getting a nigga
every day
so I mean
that leads to my
what are y'all
gonna do with these
at the office
holiday party
this year
not you Rory
are you going
to the complex one
you're not going
with a my iron
that's a yes
no
you want a my iron matching
in ugly Christmas sweaters
no I don't think
the complex is having
a Christmas party
I'm sure they will
them niggas hang out together
every weekend
they do
all of them
click anybody that work
at complex
insta story
they're all together
they really move in a click
it was all Henny Palooza
together too
yeah I can see it
they don't invite me nowhere
I don't even know
that we're having
an office holiday party.
I'm sure a complex is happening.
Everyone just whispers
when they start saying
Merry Christmas.
Yo, I forgot.
Both your bosses
are at Def Jam now.
Noah went over there
and Paul Rosenberg.
You're bossless.
Your career is in a dismay.
What are you going to do
now that your OGs are gone?
He lied. Y'all niggas worship him now that your OGs are gone? He lied.
Y'all niggas worship him.
Both your OGs over at Def Jam.
What you gonna do?
Lie.
People don't get your little inside joke, Rory.
So why don't you elaborate?
Because you're not good at inside jokes.
Is it an inside joke that Noah went to Complex
and Paul Rosenberg went to Def Jam?
Fucking lie.
I think that was a pretty big topic
on the timeline
and that's who listens
to this podcast.
The funny thing,
I don't think it was
that big of a topic
on the timeline.
Well, amongst industry insiders
such as Rory.
Yes, yes.
Any insider.
Yeah, Rory.
On the industry insider
Gchat list we have.
It was a big thing.
All right,
so what are you asking me about?
I've told you
I'm not in these group chats.
I don't have any information
on Noah being at Def Jam. I don't have any information on Noah being a Def Jam.
I don't have any information about Paul being a Def Jam.
Paul is not my boss and Noah is not my boss.
Well, not anymore.
I, much like you, don't have bosses.
I'm unemployed.
Well, who's my boss?
I just said I, much like you.
You said unlike you.
I'm sorry.
Don't have.
You should listen to the diss.
My bad, guys.
I don't know what he's talking about. Oh,ory interrupted with this noah shit so you interrupt i think you're about to go somewhere with this noah shit and
then that's it you just drop your corny joke and then that's it flatline all right so you want to
talk about noah go ahead tell us about no i don't come on talk about it you interrupted with this
noah we wasn't talking about nothing we was gonna talk to talk about something, nigga. We always going to talk about something.
Joyner Lucas,
that's what we're going to talk about.
Rap, hip-hop,
the shit that we didn't
talk about last week,
the shit that we forgot
to talk about,
the shit that we sat here
and watched as we recorded
the podcast and didn't
talk about.
The racist shit?
Yeah.
Oh, now y'all
don't want to talk about it.
Last week, everybody
was talking about
the move.
I would have preferred it
if it had an Ed Sheeran feature.
I think I would have liked it a little bit better might have been hard how do you know
the first guy wasn't ed sheeran definitely he looked like he ate ed sheeran might have been him
nah jonah lucas did this video thing these series that he's been doing have been great
also the casting i think hasn't been brought up how great these people are at rapping along to all that stuff just great
yeah you niggas are the worst podcasters i don't know i don't know how people enjoy this podcast
that was it all right then go ahead go ahead professional no i've been talking about this
shit for a fucking week so why are we talking about not here because last week maul said yo
we gotta yo i'm real passionate About that That new join That's crazy
I don't even believe
I said that
We did the podcast
And that's great
Next week yo
We really gotta go in
I said that
We gotta
Yes nigga
I didn't say that
About that song
What are you talking about
Alright then forget it man
You confusing me
With somebody else
In Complex or something
I never spoke about that record
He's just lying
I walked in
Why y'all got Complex
In y'all mouth so much today
What's up with y'all
I ain't heard that word so much
Because that's the only people That I know you to be around Is that office in here'all mouths so much today what's up with y'all I ain't heard that word so much because that's the only people
that I know you to be around
is that office in here
more more
I don't know what you do
those are the only person
that's people that you know me
to be around
is people are complex
well you're there every day
you didn't stick around last week
so what are you talking
what you talking
but this week
yo listen first of all
I came in last week
y'all were playing that
and that was the first time
I never said
this is crazy
what are you talking about
I've never said that about this one.
It's the lie post.
I don't got no in-depth review of racist shit.
I told you how I felt about the joint and Lucas shit.
I said, I think that he's painting himself in a corner with these type of joints, because
this is maybe the third time he's done this.
Yeah, where he doesn't-
I think it's dope.
Don't want to become the guy that only does that.
Yeah, I mean, it's cool, but it's like, you don't want to paint yourself into that box where that's all you do i've heard some people say that it's problematic
because at the end they kiss and make up and it's like oh you're racist and i'm not racist and it's
all good i don't know if that's true i haven't analyzed it enough to they do they do hug at the
end well the point of the song i think was for to hear both sides and two people that are trying to get to know each other.
But one is racist and one is explaining himself.
I mean, I compared it to the LL Cool J, what's the name?
I'm not, what the, accidental racist?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He compared it to that.
I don't know if that's true.
LL was wild for that song.
Super.
Did y'all hear the freestyle that he put out?
Yeah, it was dope.
Who?
Joyner? Joyner?
Joyner over whatever
that Lil Pump song is.
Oh, no.
I heard a clip of it
which I think actually
I don't want to bring up
Complex again.
It might have been
an Everyday Struggle clip
I saw on the timeline.
Well, you guys are
informing the people.
I think it's great.
Am I at work or not?
Shit, we got some advertisers here.
No, we don't have advertisers
Which is probably
Probably why I am at work
Well no
What'd you think
What'd you say
On Complex
We don't go
And listen to that shit
You gotta tell us
Here
We don't go and listen to it
It was dope
It was dope
Whatever
He's past
I'm over it
Is Mesa top five
Bad boy MC of all time
Oh wait no I'm calling Charlamagne right now That is true I'm over it. Is Mace a top five bad boy MC of all time? Oh, wait.
No, I'm calling Charlamagne right now.
That is true.
I'm calling him.
Actually, give me your phone, Rory.
Charlamagne's running around.
Charlamagne hates Mace.
Clearly.
Before we call him, I will say, I don't know if you guys listened to the
Breakfast Club Cam Ronron interview, but
if you had never listened to those two diss records, you would swear the way Charlamagne
was conducting that interview that Cam'ron tore Mase to fucking pieces and that Mase's
diss record was terrible.
And then the next Breakfast Club interview.
So is he just a Mase hater?
He has to be.
Okay.
Because we look to Charlamagne to be the non-biased guy to ask us the questions and not let rappers just get away with saying an answer.
Right.
Cam said that he's never dismaced before in his life.
And Charlamagne was like, yeah.
But, I mean, even if he feels that way, that's cool.
Charlamagne holds these rappers accountable and doesn't let them get away with answers like that.
He let Cam get away with every single answer ever and then just agreed with him.
Hold up, tear that nigga up then, Roy.
Oh, fuck, I took my thing out of pause.
To say that Mace is not a top five bad boy MC.
It's a reach.
I think it could be argued, but it's a reach.
Well, then, yeah.
For more backstory.
And that lets me know that Charlemagne hates Mace.
So I want to call Charlemagne to get to the bottom of this,
some investigative journalism here.
Even though he's already told me that he doesn't hate Mace,
but that's a lie.
This is Charlemagne.
Can he hear us?
Oh, shit.
Talk to him.
Why do we have to speak to the phone?
I just kicked my thing out.
That's all.
Ear.
How are you
blessed black and highly favored all right listen you are fucking bugging out here in the streets and you my man so i ain't gonna let you go out like that with some of these opinions rory has
a lot of questions i'm not talking to rory first of all rory's white he's not old enough to talk
to me about anything that we wait what'd you say about r, Rory's white. He's not old enough to talk to me about anything that we discuss. Wait, what'd you say about Rory?
I said Rory's white, and he's not old enough to talk to me about anything that we discuss.
Because, see, the thing is, y'all are letting stardom overshadow skill set.
And never have I said Mace is whack.
Mace isn't whack at all.
What I'm saying is, when it came to that bad boy roster, my man Hovain put it best.
That was the 96 Bulls, and Mace was Ron Harper.
If y'all don't shut the – Hovane is trash for that number one.
That is not true.
Hovane.
What is it?
How do you refer to Hovane?
Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question.
Was Mace better than Styles?
No.
No.
B-Dot said that. that's your man we don't
hey but wait what you're talking to us not rap wait time out so let me be clear styles has been
too nice for too long i do think that mace lyrically is better than a lot of niggas but
he was he was that for a little quick second so no he's not better than style that's my second
question because i've been trying to figure this out all day.
When was he literally that nice?
When?
When did this murder Mace era that all these New Yorkers talk about?
All right, so you was in Columbia back then,
so that's probably why you'd look at it like that.
But when Mace was going at Hove, Charlamagne.
When?
Where?
Where is it?
Where is it?
Is it on Cool Mix tapes? Because all the the clue mixtapes he was cool but he wasn't he wasn't on the same level as jadakiss or better
than styles okay so listen so let's talk about that mace when when they was on them clue tapes
with the freestyles mace was the head nigga and the locks was the dogs that's how they were
presented so clearly somebody made a decision back then to say mace is the nicest nigga
or maybe they said or maybe they just said yo mace should go solo same thing with wu-tang
meph was the solo artist you can't listen that don't mean meph was nicer than ghost or ray
you on this podcast making sense now makes sense of you telling me that Black Rob
is higher on the bad boy MC list
than Mason. Have you ever heard
Life Story or The Rob Report?
Yes. Yes.
No, you haven't. Wait, what is he
talking about? What is he talking about?
This is all I ask anybody
to do. I just ask anybody. Please
go listen to Black Rob Life
Story or go listen to Black Rob life story or go listen to black rob
the rob report and it's night and day it's not even close black rob has watched mace on his
own record black rob didn't watch mace on 24 hours to live are you fucking no no no
go back and listen charlamagne all right listen to this you think mace had a good you think mace's
verse on 24 hours to live
was the best verse on that song now that's a new question i didn't say that black rob when i was
close to the ledge i probably be in a way with a bad spanish mommy lay between my he bodied that
but no i don't know listen i'm not and this ain't no knock to me what mace did to you charlamagne
come on come clean man hey and we listened to that Cam interview
You was biased as a motherfucking
Tell us what Mace did, man
I was biased
I feel better now
I feel much better now
That's all I was waiting for
Thank God
All right
Then fine, I have nothing to ask
It's a Cam interview
Of course I'm going to be biased
It's Cam talking about Mace
Like, I don't see how that couldn't come off as biased in that moment
Well, I don't know your history with Mace Or Cam I just know you as Yeah, i don't see how that couldn't come off as bias in that moment
well i don't know your history with me i just know you yeah i don't know the history either
i know you as the person on the radio that holds rappers accountable and doesn't let them get away
with lies you did let cam get away with some bullshit that's how i know you charlamagne
tell me the lie tell me the lie cam says you let cam say he's never dissed mace in his life and you
said yeah this is the problem with y'all generation.
Y'all don't listen to words.
Words still matter.
Before I could even rebut, Cam said, and I'm not going to, he said, I've been talking about
him for 15 years.
I've been telling the truth.
I haven't been dissing him.
Those are just stories.
Truth could be a diss.
Truth could be a diss.
And you of all people, because you're so great at not letting rappers get away with that shit,
you could have said, come on, Cam, you've dissed Mase.
Even when you're telling the truth, you're dissing him.
You say it in a condescending way.
Charlamagne got to give us his Mase beef.
I'm not even thinking about the Cam interview.
I promise y'all I don't have no Mase beef.
What I like about this whole situation with Cam and Mase,
it has brought up a different hip-hop conversation than I've had in a long time
because my thing is this, and I've even heard y'all talk about it on y'all podcasts,
like, where do you rank Mase and this and that?
Y'all have never ranked Mase, and the reason y'all have never ranked Mase
is because Mase is just cool.
And he was a big star.
He sold a lot of records.
Mase has a classic album, though.
We don't rank Mase because of how he exited.
He left.
I don't think y'all rank Mase simply because he don't have that skill set.
Mase was just okay.
Yo, did you hear Harlem World?
You can't be okay with a classic album, Charlamagne, though.
Now you jumping out the window.
Harlem World is a classic album.
Harlem World is borderline trash.
Oh, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
We can't see.
That's crazy.
He's right, though.
He's right in the fact that I think people from New York rate Harlem World higher than
the rest of the world rates Harlem World.
To say borderline trash?
It's not borderline trash.
That's crazy.
Yo, yo, Harlem World had four songs and the rest was filler.
And I'm going to tell you something.
I went back and listened to Harlem World last week and I thought I was bugging.
I'm like, yo, maybe I really do hate Mase.
You do.
No, no, no, you do.
You do.
You really do hate Mase.
I was talking to somebody from Bad Boy today.
I'm not going to say their name, but very high ranking official who's been there forever.
And he goes, man, you know what?
Rich Dallas? Rich Dollaz?
Rich Dollaz was trash.
That was the era where we would just put four big singles on an album,
and the rest was filler.
He said that out of his own mouth.
He said we would put four big singles on a record,
and the rest was filler.
He said you could ask anybody at any label,
and they'll tell you that was the formula for that time.
But I'm talking about an album.
I'm not talking about the formula.
All right, all right.
Real quick, I just want to about the... Alright, real quick.
I just want to read the Harlem World
track list. Ready?
Please do.
Do You Want to Get
Money? Track 2.
Gobbledy.
I like that song.
Listen to it now, Joe.
No, it's trash now.
I'm talking about 97 when I was broke in the rehab.
Okay, well, that's...
It didn't...
Harlem War didn't age well at all.
Somebody just said it was a classic album.
Wait, wait, time out.
No, that...
No, that is a classic album.
Wait, three, take what's yours.
Garbage.
Five, will they die for you?
Okay.
Okay.
All right, so wait, wait, wait. All right, six six looking at me got garbage in hindsight oh that record is so trash
in 2000 eight love you so it's kind of old it's whack nine the play away whack the best song on
that album is niggas want to act with busting' Round. Niggas Wanna Act is next. Feel So Good.
Okay record, kind of corny.
Yo, Charlamagne is rough, man.
I ain't gonna lie.
I didn't know. Charlamagne is a little corny.
I'm with Charlamagne.
It is.
I'm rolling with you, bro.
All of this shit we grew up on is a little, some of that shit we grew up on is a little
corny in hindsight, bro.
I don't know if Harlem World is that.
Harlem World to me was not that great at the time even.
Besides the singles being hit singles.
Cool.
Well, you was boot camp.
I'm a boot camp boot camp.
Charlamagne, I'm going to call Mace, nigga.
I'm going to find out.
Listen, I'm not saying Mace is whack either.
All I'm saying is Mace was a good player on a really great team.
So Sheik is better than Mace to you?
Listen, Sheik is dope. Why do you act like Sheik is better than Mace, do you? Listen,
Sheik is dope. Why do you act like Sheik's so bad?
Whoa, whoa. I'm not part of that crew.
I do know that Sheik is dope.
Sheik is my favorite. I do know that Sheik is dope. Don't paint me as that guy.
I'm asking, do you have Sheik
better than Mace? But you say yeah already. Yes.
I got big, Jada,
Styles, Sheik,
Black Rob, and I still like D-Dep better, but he's debatable. I got big Jada styles. She black Rob.
And I feel like he's better,
but he's debatable.
This is my last.
This is my last point.
I want to make to you.
Jada styles and chic.
We're not signed as solo artists.
They were signed as a group.
So, so why are we individualizing them to put Mase further down on the list?
The locks is one act.
Yeah, that's, I don't know.
They had solo careers.
Yeah.
So you got to call them one act.
We're talking about the best MCs.
No, we're talking about the bad boy era.
I know, we're talking about the best MCs.
From the bad boy era.
You can't talk about the best rappers if they was in a room rapping.
If he's saying all the locks is better than Mase, the Mase is one lock.
I think you're allowed to separate them.
Because they featured
sometimes just
Kiss was on a record
just Styles was on a record
you could split it up
I'll let Charlamagne
split that one up
yo even with
even with niggas
done started something
that's another one
they like to point to
Mace got busy on that
but his verse wasn't better
than Styles' verse
on that record
it wasn't better than DMX
we're not here to debate
that Mace is better
than Styles.
Yo, Charlamagne is really fucking...
We're going to continue this conversation
along with some other crazy shit
that I've seen you tweeting about.
And once again, I'm not dissing Mase.
Mase is dope.
I'm just saying he wasn't the dopest rapper
on that roster lyrically.
Bars, not Star Power, not nothing else.
Nigga, how y'all even heard Black Rob in South Carolina?
Shut up. not star power not nothing else nigga how y'all even heard Black Rob in South Carolina shut up yo I'm gonna hit you
Sean man
thank you man
yo this nigga
is for real
I agree with him
that Harlem World
is not that good of an album
well one I've read
the track
but it's still a classic
now just because
it's a dated it's a dated classic now just because it's a age
dated
it's a dated
not when it came out
I don't know
I was a CNN
it maybe didn't age
that well
for that era
it was a classic album
so it's Confessions of a Fire
y'all niggas sound crazy
I can't even be a part of that
I'm calling these
if that's the case
if that's the case we can go listen to a lot of that conversation. I'm calling Mase. If that's the case, if that's the case,
we can go listen to a lot of records from 97
and listen to them now that sound like shit.
So if that's all you're standing on,
listening to them today,
I'm like, well, that shit is trash.
Nigga, a lot of records are trash today.
I still hold Harlem World as a classic.
Come on, man.
But I'm not running,
I don't play it weekly in 2017,
but I don't think it was meant to be that at all.
Oh, Mace definitely not picking up.
Well, I'm glad
Charlamagne finally admitted his bias on that.
Well, maybe he admitted it before. I didn't hear it,
but I was watching that Cam'ron interview.
Like, what is going on here?
Damn it, Mace.
Maybe he'll call back.
I wanted Mace to answer. I want to know where Mace thinks he is on that list. Mace went Maybe he'll call back. I wanted Mace to answer.
I want to know where Mace thinks he is on that list.
Well, Mace went on a...
That's actually a good question.
I want to ask him where he thinks he falls on that list.
Honestly.
Yeah, when he calls back, I'm asking.
On the bad boy list?
He's Mace.
He's probably going to say number one.
I don't think anybody will put themselves above big.
Mace put a new joint out today.
Mace got to stop saying he's pretty.
That's the only thing. Yeah, you can't be 45 and put themselves above big. Mase put a new joint out today. Mase got to stop saying he's pretty. That's the only thing.
Yeah, you can't be 45 and say you're pretty.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not even dope to be pretty anymore today.
Like, as a guy.
It's dope to be cracked out.
Yeah, I don't know.
There's a lot of guys in dresses.
You just can't say you're pretty anymore.
There's a lot of guys in dresses.
I don't know.
Yeah, it is some pretty niggas out there.
This might be the era.
I'm sick of The Rock, too, by the way.
I'm unfollowing The Rock.
What The Rock did to you?
It's all a big act.
It's an act.
It's an act.
I told y'all niggas this.
Nah, I'm with more now.
Three weeks ago.
Kevin Hart, The Rock, that whole franchise of niggas.
I don't believe any of them.
They're lying.
What'd they do?
Everything that they say.
What'd they do?
Nothing.
They didn't do anything.
You see Tyrese's latest one
he said
he only married his wife
to keep her in the country
and then said bro
there was only 7 people
at our wedding
yeah he kinda shamed
the small weddings
a little bit
I was tight
where's she from
who knows
I think we're fucking
experts on Tyrese
yes actually I do
if anyone were to be
in the world
it would be us
but what else you got
on your cool list
nothing
I don't think Tyrese
was on it this week
no Tyrese is not on it
cause I'm not
I'm with Maul
it's all I act
but The Rock is not
doing anything
he just
he's too positive
and it's like
I see through it now
he's happy
come on my nigga
knock it off
it's all I act
I can tell y'all.
You really put down the fucking 5,000 pound dumbbells to sign a kid's cast.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
While the camera started at the perfect time.
It was a red cam in the gym while you was lifting just by chance.
I don't believe it.
Well, all right.
I'm not rolling.
I do think that there are HD cameras in the gym when The Rock works out.
Steven Spielberg is in there fucking.
The Rock don't knock it off.
I'm sick of him.
He gonna snuff you.
And if I think he's really tight with Kevin Hart, and I do think he's really tight with
Kevin Hart.
They did like 15 movies in one year together.
So I do think he's really tight with Kevin Hart.
And Kevin Hart is, you know what I mean?
So what we think?
Wait, what is the Yamin part
of the Kevin Hart?
I'm trying to say what I'm
saying. We know Kevin Hart is not
the...
Most publicly liked right now?
No, he is. That's the funny shit.
That's what
wealth privilege do.
He kind of got that off of the low.
Swang that nigga out.
Can we give applause to Kevin Hart and to Jay-Z for getting through both their cheating situations with flying colors?
Yeah, I ain't going to lie.
They did some Andy Dufresne shit.
They crawled through shit and came out free on the other side, man.
Shout out to them.
And I'll tell you who one-u up both of these niggas man i gotta start putting some respect on fetty wap name out here
man so i just learned i just learned that fetty wap has a girl pregnant right slow news day
but i just learned this like yesterday i'm saying So that means that he has a new girl pregnant.
How many kisses here?
While he has the Alexis girl.
Why is Maul here, honestly?
What's up, Maul?
I'll tell you off camera.
God damn it.
So that means that there's a woman pregnant
while Alexis is pregnant
who was fighting Masika
about being pregnant.
Yeah.
And he's not with none of them.
No.
It has been very public.
Swag this nigga out, man.
When you got chicks fighting over you
that you not even with
and you done got a whole nother chick pregnant somewhere. Child support payments are going to be When you got chicks fighting over you that you not even with,
and you done got a whole nother chick pregnant somewhere.
Child support payments are going to be.
Oh, yeah, no.
No, he's over in a few years.
But right this second, because we're ignorant and immature,
swag him the fuck out.
Go Fetty, man.
Goals.
That's goals.
Is it goals?
I don't know.
No. goals is it goals i don't know no speaking of uh alexis alexis this is not news but this is really funny if you follow all of that la fuckity fuck shit which i do not but sometimes when i want
to laugh with my girl it's fun to go right to that la fuckity fuck shit wait whack i'm not talking
about all la people i'm talking about the little fuckity fucks to do the fuckity fuck shit whack.
So listen.
Alexis apparently was planning to leak a sex tape.
With her friends.
Like they were planning the leak.
But then the plans of the leak leaked.
The plans of the leak leaked. The plans of the leak.
I'm not sure if y'all really understand how funny this is.
Do you know how stupid you have to be for the plans of your leak to leak?
And I think the leak leaked it.
Like somebody that she was friends with that was supposed to leak it got mad at her and then leaked the plans of the leak as the leak.
That's a double negative.
I think that's just a leak.
Yo, you are trash.
You got to scrap that whole planet.
Yeah, we don't want to see that tape no more.
Yeah, you got to just scrap that.
Yeah, but God damn it, man.
Plan better.
Plan better.
Did you guys see Love and Hip Hop Or no is it over
I finally caught
Yeah I finally caught
One episode last night
Oh yeah you was
Trying to tell us
It wasn't even
The whole episode
That shit is
I don't know how
That shit is still on TV
Seriously
That shit is bad
It is bad
That shit is so fake
And so
It's not even
The cool bad
That it used to be
Where it was so bad
That it was entertaining Y'all fucking up Joe's Woody man It's just even the cool bad that it used to be where it was so bad that it was entertaining.
Y'all fucking up Joe's
what even?
It's just kind of bad.
How are they fucking up
my money?
I ain't on that show.
This way,
they'll have to come back.
We're trying to set up
the comeback.
I'm not coming back.
We're trying to shit on it
so Joe can come back
and save Loving Hippo.
Joe can't do that no more.
Joe can save it.
Joe's not doing that anymore.
He can't do Loving Hippo.
No, I'm saying it.
We're not talking to you.
That shit is trash.
And you wouldn't be
styling me anymore.
I never styled you
You did
Your cousin
Somebody made that
Post office vest
And you went crazy with it
The vest
I gave you one vest
Somebody made that
Post office vest
Somebody sent you that
And you went crazy
Like this is the one
Y'all ain't even see
James R. last night
Try to bring back my swag
You are James R.
Listen man
James R. is the new
Joe Budden of that TV show
Never the case James R. is definitely you are James listen man James R is the new Joe Button of that TV show never the case James R is definitely beat the brakes
off of James but that's the new you look out you look out peer pressure and your
friends putting a battery in your back get you to say foul shit about a nigga
you've never met I've never met James R could be mad fly we could get along
great no you know he got He tried to kiss Shorty
And she curled
He bought her a puppy
That shit is just so corny
What's uh
What's Sophia Labade's
Boyfriend's name
I don't
I don't know
I'm just looking at the TV
Trying to figure out
Why is this on TV
He was trying to throw
His shit out the crib
I think he threw
His own Knicks gym bag
Down the steps
Oh shit
Wait no no no no
Wait wait wait Time out time out time out now
that you say that more i just remember what happened james r might be a legend my nigga
yo james r took sofia body to the park to apologize for his girl beating her up by buying her a dog,
which is swag,
because chicks love dogs,
little dogs.
But then she went home with the dog
and told her boyfriend where the dog was from.
And then he commits
the thrown horse.
Matter of fact,
I want to know what more.
But that's the storyline.
Lauren, Steph,
somebody call me, man.
But here's the thing.
You apologize.
You apologize for trying
to beat up a girl.
You buy her a dog.
Then you try to kiss her.
She curves you.
You walk away with a vest
and some Timbs on
and it's 80-something degrees
outside.
You think you should
have took the dog back? Well, in New York, you could wear Timbs when it's 80-something degrees outside. You think you should have took the dog back?
Well, in New York, you could wear Timbs when it's 80 degrees out.
You was doing it for years before they came out with the cool joggers.
I didn't wear Timbs in the summer.
You bodied the switch to the joggers.
I never wore Timbs in the summer.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I never did that.
You definitely have worn Timbs in the summer.
I definitely wore Timbs in the summer.
Yo, it's like I lived with somebody I never lived with.
I never wore Timbs.
Everything that I saw about Tim's I never wore boots
In the summertime
I never wore boots
In the summer
I never did it
So when do you stop
Wearing boots ball
I don't wear boots
When it's 80 degrees outside
Bro what are you talking about
I've never done that
In my life
I bet you I have a picture
Of mall with Tim's on
In 80 degree weather
Fine
I remember it
Fine
I took it
It was the summertime
I tell you that
Shorts and Tim's
Yeah with some green cargo And some shit That nigga. Shorts and Timbs? Yeah, with some green cargoes and some shit.
That nigga, man.
Shorts and Timbs?
I've never done that.
You do jeans and...
Yo, I'm sick of Maul's cool act.
What are you talking about?
You're not too cool for Timbs in the summer, my nigga.
I've never wore Timbs in the summertime.
What are you talking...
I've never done...
Timbs in the cool...
To me, I be laughing when I see niggas do...
I don't even know how niggas do that.
I've never wore Timbs in the summertime.
Yo, Maul answer everything niggas do. Yo, I've never wore Timbs in the summertime. Yo, Maul answer everything niggas do.
Yo, I've never wore Timbs
in the summer.
Never.
Maul, here's my question
for you.
And I know that
I make the joke about,
you know,
not really knowing
who you are
and, you know,
not really, you know,
really knowing much
about your past.
I know who you tell me
your brother is, right?
But I'm seeing him do interviews in all these places,
and I know we haven't spoken to him.
I ain't got no Rockefeller Air Force Ones.
You ain't got a rock chain.
What's up, man?
This is on you.
That we don't have a rock chain?
Or Air Force One Rockefeller version. Or Biggs interview. It's on you. That we don't have a rock chain? Or Air Force One, Rockefeller version.
Or Biggs interview.
I mean, it's on you, bro.
Well, I mean, you know.
What do you want me to do, man?
I mean, we're not really a guest-heavy show.
Oh, guys, I knew you were going to say that.
No, but I didn't know if I can ask him.
I can call and ask him.
You know Rory wants to meet Biggs.
No, I mean, I can call and ask him.
I have met Biggs. You know I want to meet Biggs. Didn't I tell you the story of when I met call and ask him. You know Rory wants to meet Biggs. No, I mean, I can call and ask him. I have met Biggs. Oh, you know I want to meet Biggs.
Didn't I tell you the story of when I met
Biggs? No.
I don't think... Oh! Listen!
No. No.
I can't tell this story? No. I told him
Maul knows it. But still, that's funny.
St. Thomas? Yeah. I mean, there wasn't much
to it besides him just brushing me
off, like, get the fuck away from me in this airport.
Like the nothing that you are. What Bigix did when he met you nothing he actually dropped you from
the label this thing is white privilege man yo i'm rory and i'm white
well he fired you so i see why I see why you want him up here.
Rory gave me a little nudge when I leaned on him.
Get the fuck off me.
I'm kind of sick of your shit today.
Get off me.
Y'all nigga gave me a little nudge.
Just to get off me.
Man, I ain't going to lie to y'all.
See, y'all wasn't there, but all weekend, Rory was at my house fucking offering me a
I was not.
He was off all Sunday then.
All Sunday, Rory was at my house offering me a fade.
A haircut?
I haven't.
That's what I thought, but he ain't having Supreme Clippers with him,
so it couldn't have been that.
They got Supreme Clippers?
Why does Supreme have Clippers?
They do?
Yeah, and why does Jose have a pair?
Jose would definitely have Supreme Clippers.
Why?
Ain't nothing Supreme about Jose.
That shit's nice.
I could use a pair.
All right, I have a serious question for y'all, honestly. nothing supreme about Jose. That shit's nice. I could use a present. Here's,
all right,
all right,
I have a serious question
for y'all,
honestly.
What is,
can I go through your phone?
I'm reading questions
for the show.
Can I go through your phone?
No,
no you can't.
Why?
Because it's my phone.
I want to read your
text inbox out loud
on the podcast.
No,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, What the fuck out of this? It's a regular request. Yeah, this nigga's a hater.
And more won't let me go see his saved Instagram pics.
I don't even know.
You know what's funny, though? No, no, I don't.
I didn't know that you could do that until you said that.
Yeah, well, you know now, right?
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Because he was in there?
Nah.
Can't see nothing in my phone, bro.
I didn't know that when a chick deleted this shit, it deleted.
Oh, okay. Yeah. It deleted out shit, it deleted. Oh, okay.
Yeah.
It deleted out your little save folder.
That's why.
That's why you got to screenshot them.
Can't delete a screenshot in my phone.
What if it's a video?
Oh, yeah.
Then you asked up.
You got to get one of those little apps.
Yo, do y'all realize that Instagram killed the strip club?
And porn, by the way.
And porn.
Super killed porn.
Yeah.
Porn is trash. There's no reason for you to go to strip club when porn and porn super killed porn yeah porn is trash like there's no reason for
you to go to strip club when you could i would like to go to the strip club to see what's
happening in the strip club nothing i can't go now i got a baby coming with there's nothing
happening because no one why do you think instagram because it's like i can watch you
can watch women twerk from your phone now you can watch women half naked on your phone yeah
but you can't finger them in your phone.
All right, see, now,
I don't know what you was doing
in your strip club,
but no.
Yes, you do.
Don't let me interview
Michael Paul one of these days.
That nigga got y'all fooled.
He's a creep, too.
And more, you a creep, too,
in the strip club.
I've never finger banged
a girl in the strip club.
Oh, I'm definitely
interviewing Rosie.
Who the fuck is that?
He's fucking snitching season up here.
Wait to find out.
Rosie?
Listen to the podcast.
Okay, I'm listening.
No, next week.
Okay.
Tune in.
Oh, here's my question for y'all before we get out of here,
because I ain't got no more to talk about.
But I've loosely mentioned this a few weeks,
and y'all keep brushing it off.
So now let me just paint the timeline for you.
They got robots that are
gyrating their pelvic areas
now.
Go on.
And they interviewed a robot the other
day. Oh, they got hobots.
They interviewed a robot?
What do you do with a robot?
Hey, that was funny.
What's a horn?
Give that nigga a horn, man.
Come on.
Give that nigga a horn.
You don't think he deserves a horn?
Give that nigga a horn.
I hate when y'all get silly when we're trying to end the podcast.
Yo, what was I just saying
the robot
oh yeah so I'm seeing clips
circulating of a robot gyrating
their pelvic areas
simulating sex
that's one
I'm not fucking a robot
is that the question
no
two
they interviewed a robot
and the robot said
verbatim out of
its mouth,
I am here to destroy humans.
And they didn't unplug that shit?
What the word?
They didn't take the batteries out?
No.
And we all just laugh.
Ah, little cute robot.
Nah, they got to kill that robot.
But I remember iRobot.
Did y'all see iRobot?
And I do believe that art imitates life and vice versa.
I do believe that one day after we all dead and gone, iRobot could really happen.
So, all of these clips running around with these smart robots, our phones being smart robots, the facial recognition,
and all of these apps that we so cannot live without.
My question to you guys is,
what are y'all going to do when the robots come for us?
Because they're going to come.
I thought the zombie apocalypse was going to come first.
I was going to say, I was more worried about the zombies.
Yeah, no, you're right.
The robots are coming quicker.
See, y'all make everything a joke.
What are you using as a robot?
Magnets?
These niggas joking because of white privilege.
That robot shit to me is so...
Chris Brown just taping.
So y'all don't believe that that could ever occur.
Y'all don't believe that we're anywhere close to...
It's still a laughable because... Y'all don't believe that we're anywhere close to... Like, it's still
a laughable thing to y'all.
Only because I feel like
with robots that...
You think you can take a robot?
No, I'm just saying
it's like you can...
You can't take a robot.
How dope is this robot?
I mean, it's...
I get the idea,
but it's like
robots are not gonna
take over the world
and try to kill humanity.
I don't believe that.
That's just...
No. Well, why are we making robots? And I don't believe that. That's just...
And I won't be here.
None of us will be here when that ever happens.
If that ever happens.
I want to be directly next to him.
When they bang on the door?
When they
chokeslam this nigga
from his Supreme book bag
into the Supreme concrete
that he's standing on.
Getting slammed from a book bag? A nigga grabbing you by your book bag standing on. You're getting slammed from a book bag?
A nigga grabbing you by your book bag is crazy.
You definitely get slammed.
A nigga's picking at your supreme
collar.
You've been yoked up by the collar before,
nigga. Yeah, that alligator reel?
Yeah, that was you. What?
Yeah, nigga. Your school days.
The alligator, the Biggie verse,
nigga. You remember it
I ain't mad that
That nigga yoked you up
It wasn't me
Yo Maul just in his phone
Maul's not coming back here next week
We really have some
Interesting questions
Let's get some questions
I was just trying to read
Some of them
Cause I don't think
We have shit left
Me got denied
Y'all didn't care
That this fun line
Is gaining momentum
Until it comes back To bite y'all in the ass.
The what?
This fun line.
This not having fun anymore.
When it invades y'all household, then y'all are killed.
Invades.
And I'm going to use it.
Oh, wait.
I was trying to get in a proper fucking Christmas party behavior, and you fucking just breezed right by it.
I'm sick of y'all.
Proper Christmas party behavior.
I'm done with y'all.
None of us are going
To a Christmas party
You can't do anything now
That's what I was getting
To with that shit
With the allegations
You can't even
Do nothing anymore
They didn't even invite you
That was just the opening
To make jokes
Whatever man
You don't know how to act
You can't do anything
The world is too sensitive now
People think everything
Is inappropriate
Everything is
But every time you turn up They they got some wild shit on TV.
All I'm going to tell you niggas is y'all be careful with these office holiday parties.
All of that.
Well, I ain't going to the office.
The punch bowl, the coquito.
They don't got coquito at the office.
I mean, what office is it?
Yeah.
You never know.
That's true.
At Complex, some white person made the coquito.
With just milk.
And it's coming and it's coming
from some fancy
cappuccino machine
yeah
definitely got a list
yeah
that's so fucking true
anyway
you got
what's up with Jeezy
I see you have that
written down here
he has an album coming
I just wanted to ask
y'all thoughts on him
I don't rush for
new Jeezy music
at this point
though on his albums there always is a few records I like, but I'm not expecting too much.
Yeah, I like Jeezy.
He has a lot of dope records.
I'll probably say he has a classic album.
TM101 has a classic album.
He does, for sure.
But I don't know.
As of late, I'm not anticipating any music from him.
I'm just not. When I hear Jeezy has a new song or record coming out, not that I don't
like him, but it's just like, it doesn't do the same for me.
Like, oh shit, I'm not rushing to hear it.
But I mean, I will listen to it though.
I will listen to a Jeezy album because he's made very good albums.
But I'm not rushing to hear it.
I'm not rushing to hear a Jeezy album.
And he's going to be rapping about drug dealing.
People just want to take drugs now, man.
They don't want to hear about who's selling it to them.
They just want to text that guy.
They don't want to hear from him.
That changed with the listeners.
A lot of the listeners now are addicts.
They want to do the drugs.
They don't want to hear about the nigga that sold it
and got money and is doing all this lavish shit.
The audience is different now. If you're not
turning up and getting high and
twerking, they don't want to hear that shit. That was another point I meant
to ask Charlamagne. Did you see that?
I don't know what publication it was that Charlamagne was
doing it, but he was defending the younger
kids and saying that we're shitting on them about
all this drug use music, but the music we love
is not the nicest
shit in the world. He's talking about selling drugs.
And he was saying that was equal.
To me, I think if you wanted
to go outside and sell drugs, you'll quickly find out
that you're not built for that or you are built for that.
Probably within the first few days.
I think drug using is much
fucking easier to go down on the block
and buy some drugs and take them.
So I think encouraging kids to take
drugs than to sell drugs, both are wrong.
But if we're going to compare them,
put them to a degree,
a person can't just run out and sell drugs.
They just can't do it.
Anyone can run out and buy drugs.
It don't take but $10 to get addicted to a drug.
Selling drugs ain't the same case.
So I don't know what,
I mean, I get what Charlamagne was saying,
because 90s, they was talking about clapping motherfuckers.
It wasn't the best content.
We can't just stand here
and say we love positive hip hop,
and this shit now is negative,
but I think it's a much different scale
from the drug use thing,
because I think a 13-year-old
can go get addicted to lean
much easier than it was
to sell cocaine.
But shit is just different now.
You know what I'm saying?
The L emoji.
Yeah, like,
shit is just different now. Like, even the way saying? Yeah, like shit is just different now.
Like even the way dudes party is different now.
Like when you go to the club now, it's 200 niggas at a table.
Thanks, Parks.
It's like 200 niggas at one table, no girls around.
Like I'm going back in the day.
But that's what it is now.
They tried to kill me earlier because I said I wasn't going. I wouldn't go to the Dipset, ASAP Mob, and A Boogie Spotify headlining concert because there wasn't any girls there.
There's probably girls there, though.
You don't think there was girls at that show?
There wasn't.
There wasn't, you said?
No.
Really?
Well, I'm shocked because I know plenty of chicks that love Dipset, ASAP Mob, and A Boogie.
Matter of fact, I think most of A Boogie's listeners
are women. Obviously, they were women. It wasn't
a bunch of women.
But there was women there for sure.
There's chicks from the Bronx.
I'm not going to no concert
where there ain't no women. I hate
concerts, by the way. I don't really go to
concerts, period, but I'm not going nowhere where there ain't no women.
I'm not doing that. A bunch of niggas
ain't about to do nothing but act stupid.
Ain't nobody trying
to get fly fresh or fucked.
Nothing positive happens.
Yeah.
Nothing positive happens
when it's a bunch of men
in a room.
If you ain't paying attention
to a woman,
you paying attention to me.
Right.
Nigga,
when two men
is paying attention
to each other,
we already know how that go.
Right.
Right.
Yeah,
I'm cool with that.
But the club,
I mean,
to Maul's point,
the club ain't the thing anymore.
Well,
what's the thing?
Now that Henny Palooza stopped,
what's the thing? Well, I'll say us and grits and biscuits started that wave of having an event
as the part like that's the real party i started that but whatever all right bro how'd that work
out not well um so yeah there's a lot of like little events like there's all a bunch of baby
copycat henny paloozas that aren't to the scale of ours.
Yeah.
Tight. Matter of fact.
So you give a white nigga the gun.
Yeah, gotta let the clip go.
Exactly. Exactly why.
But you were saying, go ahead.
A lot of people go to events and shit.
People will throw things on set. They'll rent out a spot and then invite people in.
Where are people going? Honestly, I would like to know to what to party
to do anything yeah yeah like to have to have fun i was i had a meeting earlier this week and i was
talking to him uh i was talking to this person and i was saying one of the beauties about new
york back in the day was that during the week you could go out at any point and find a hot spot
those days are no longer like rory said the day parties and during the week you could go out at any point and find a hot spot. Those days are no longer.
Like Rory said, the day parties
and the festivals kind of took over some, but when
that slows down, like during the week
I be wanting to know where people are.
People are home.
They on their
phones. They streaming. Like I hate when people
record themselves at a party
and you're not there and it look like
it's crazy. That's the worst shit.
And then you call somebody that was there, and they're like, man, that shit was trash.
But if you just stand somewhere, and you're just shaking your phone, and you're just scanning the room, and music is loud, it looks like it's a great time.
There was also less shit to do at home back in the day.
Wait, who called Fab's party Instaprom?
I'm sorry.
What party?
What party was this?
His birthday party.
Oh, the, uh. I ate with Maul, dude. His birthday party. I didn't know about
I didn't know what party he was at.
Maul said it.
You said Instaprom. I thought it was
a different party he did.
I thought he threw another party.
I know the Gotham, the
Batman themed party. That was the Instaprom.
But why you call it Instaprom?
Because everybody from Instagram was there in their dress clothes with masks on.
Okay.
Posing with each other.
Yeah.
No?
You wasn't there.
But you know what's funny though?
A party like that, like that's what I'm saying.
When it's a lot of popular people in a room, it's like how much fun are they really having
because everybody's on their phone.
Everybody's taking pictures. Everybody's Instagram. Everybody's instagram well they're there to take the picture well they're not there to party the real fun is in my phone i feel like like what you mean wait wait because
you can be all right let's see your saved ig pictures you can oh yeah i'm not i'm not like
y'all like i'm a real you ain't real nigga
shut up
at any point
more
you don't remember
you don't remember back
when Rory wasn't around
Moon Music 3
I was the nigga
that started that game
of everybody
showed their
MySpace inbox
let me see the sent
messages right now
y'all was the niggas
looking Fugazi
in the light
so here we are
yet again
it's Fugazi
to not want to show
everyone your MySpace inbox no it's's fugazi to not want to show everyone
your myspace no it's fugazi to know that you typing some sucka shit up in there so you can't
you can't show it to some real niggas oh no that ain't that ain't that's not the reason why i'm
speaking for me that's not the reason why i wouldn't want nobody looking through my phone
like no i ain't doing that but what all right but that's cool but the save picture thing
ain't nothing in there but some pictures yeah Yeah, but... It ain't nothing crazy.
It's just like...
Like porn shit in there?
I just got on to it.
I told you.
I just...
You put me on.
I didn't even know
that was a thing.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
I'm serious.
Pregnant.
No, I'm just saying
when you said it,
I didn't know that that was...
Somebody told me, nigga.
Don't do that.
Well, you told me.
Don't put it on me.
We got sleepers.
I'm about sick of both of y'all.
Nah, we gotta ask some of these questions, though.
We don't have to.
We do.
Kind of answered that.
Question for Rory.
What was it like
working with G-Unit?
Can you share some stories or no?
No, I can't.
It was aggressive and scary.
Okay.
For all of us, I guess.
Do you think that...
Wait, when was Rory signed to G-Unit?
Signed?
Was that signed to G-Unit?
No, Rory was definitely signed to G-Unit.
No, he was signed to G-Unit.
Okay, here's another question.
Has Joe or anyone in Slaughterhouse ever critiqued M music-wise?
And was M's response the same as what Just Blaze experienced or no?
As what Just Blaze experienced?
Wait, say that again?
Yeah, I guess Just somewhere might have said when he tried to critique M on his music.
And M probably went crazy on him.
Shut the fuck up.
Damn, well, I want to hear that story if it happened.
That's a funny story.
It's Just, yeah, apparently.
I don't know.
I'm not qualified to answer that.
I wouldn't know.
Not me, anyway.
Okay.
What happened to Joe's green scully?
Does he still wear it, or is it gone forever?
It's gone, man.
It's over.
We almost got a Mood Music 5 when he lost that shit.
This is exactly why we don't need a question segment.
That scully I used to always see you in.
What was it?
Is that still around?
That's what's pressing right now.
Is rap worth it anymore for
the rappers that is well i don't rap so yeah joe joe doesn't rap is there more questions are you
skipping over those yeah word no i'm just scanning it's not no specific yeah you've
rock nation depending on vick mentor to carry the label since amika's lockdown
no how do you know because they have rihanna and beyonce
and vic nigga his performance at 444 i don't try to clean it up i'm cleaning it up by saying
beyonce and rihanna are bigger than vic mensa yeah nigga that's a diss you just mad you're
not rock nation what would a perfect world be for joe to come out of his fake ass retirement besides inspiration a rock chain see because as soon as i get my rock chain you know
i gotta do something corny like rap over one of those old rockefeller beats like one nine a hustler
or something and shoot an iv ig vid from the gold couch with the stars above my head if you put an
egg if if you put an egg on joe's head with a bit
of extra virgin olive oil no no this is a great question i think you stop emailing listen if you
put an egg no seriously if you put an egg on joe's head with a bit of extra virgin olive oil when he's
shouting will it fry find out dry it i think, though. Barks, you got eggs here?
I got split.
Beat the shit out of them.
Do you think bad meets evil Eminem is better than current Eminem?
Yo, I don't want to answer any Eminem.
I don't care.
I mean, you know.
I don't care about that.
I don't care.
That always sounds bad when you say I don't care.
How did I kill Slaughterhouse, and when is Joe going to keep it all the way
A buck on Eminem
I'm all definitely kill Slaughterhouse
I don't know if I can reveal how and never
Why do you keep saying I kill Slaughterhouse
That's crazy
I don't even have the power to kill Slaughterhouse
That's why that's bullshit what Joe is saying
I know what he's talking about but that's bullshit
Well what is he talking about
And has the group released music since?
Yeah, that was pre-Welcome to Our House, I thought.
Wasn't that the... No, no. I think the mixtape
came out after that, right? Yeah.
Mixtape came out after that. Oh, yeah, mixtape came out.
On the house? Yeah. Oh, Welcome to Our House?
Yeah, you locked down. Yeah, like, yo.
See, he's trying to put that... You locked down. Okay, so what happened
was, Rory, we were at a video shoot.
Mm-hmm. Right, and we were at a video shoot, right?
And we were having a discussion.
You can tell him this off air.
You ain't tell that other shit on air,
whatever the fuck you was laughing at over...
Oh, no, no, no, because that's...
I can't.
I have to tell you that off air.
Oh.
And I was just talking about, you know,
the group and Eminem, whatever.
So it was some people from the label there.
You know what I mean? And so Joe was saying that as a result of that conversation... the group and Eminem whatever so but some people from the label there you
know I mean and so so Joe was saying that as a result of that conversation
you convinced the label heads to stop that like what I said what it what
exactly did you say not important that's why that's bullshit with Joe's off there
I'm gonna tell you what he said, and you're going to realize how he killed
the group.
Which video shoot was this?
I don't know.
Throw it away?
I don't know.
The one where y'all was at the frat.
It was like a frat house.
Yeah, no.
That was pre-Welcome to Our House.
Oh, that was frat house.
That was your earliest complex.
It was a complex frat house thing.
See, so I might be responsible for you being that complex, nigga.
Oh, then that's still a
fate oh you keep saying that like every I feel like there was one more thing
that was important and I wanted to ask you two niggas about because I know I
won't talk to y'all again until next week
oh what do y'all think about that juju that that juju hit? The what? Pittsburgh?
Oh.
Let's get the sleepers, man.
Oh, sports.
Speaking of sports,
the bar ball.
It's real tough to do a podcast
when both of you
are glued to your phone.
I was looking at the list
to see if we could do it.
Yeah, I'm looking
for the fucking list.
The ball family,
him leaving UCLA.
Don't care.
That's crazy.
That's kind of wild, though.
That's not worth
just skipping over. They're going to suspend him. Yeah, that's crazy. That's not worth just skipping over.
They're going to suspend him.
Yeah, but he's...
Where's he going?
What LeVar is doing, though...
Homeschool.
Yeah, but what he's doing is he's setting a bad...
To do what?
To homeschool for what?
College?
Yeah, he's going to homeschool.
He's ready to start a bad trend, though, I think, with that.
What's the trend?
Thank you, bro.
Like, pulling your
pulling your kid out of school
that's a
student athlete
strictly because
he wasn't
he's being suspended
because of
I mean you gotta
he did
wasn't trying to steal and shit
like
that could have
that could have gotten bad
some Louis Vuitton shit
so
you know what I'm saying
so let's not act like
that just didn't happen
even if it wasn't expensive the laws over there is like fuck yeah So, you know what I'm saying? So, let's not act like that just didn't happen.
Even if it wasn't expensive, the laws over there is like, fuck.
Yeah, like, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
You in a foreign country stealing, like, they don't play that shit over there.
Yeah, he's wild.
You know what I mean?
So, it's like, you know, you come back here to school saying, yeah, you embarrassed the school.
Your son embarrassed the school.
Like, you can't just pull your son out of school because he's suspended for stealing.
And that's a turnover already.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like,
what type of shit is that?
Like you stealing?
That was pretty good.
Y'all don't feel like
doing this podcast
so y'all not giving my jokes
their proper respect.
I wasn't sure
if you were joking about this.
And that's a turnover
when a nigga stole something
before a game was played?
That's...
That was good.
Yeah, I'm off.
Whatever.
Go ahead, Moe.
I just think
that Joe is stupid.
No, but I'm just saying
you can't...
Why are you pulling
your son out of school
like he was suspended
like with no cause
for being suspended?
You think he's still
going to make the league?
Is his plan
to just go to the league?
Can he even do that?
I think he will,
but I mean... I'm just talking about
this situation is like you're setting
a bad example. Also, well...
That third son is fucked.
It's over for you, nigga. The second one, I don't know if y'all
watched it. Hang up your ball sneakers now, little
nigga with your cool haircut. He's not Lonzo.
Like, he's not the best ball...
He's probably the worst ball brother
at basketball. He needed college.
The middle brother?
Yeah.
Yeah, LeAngelo.
He's not going straight to the league.
He ain't that fucking good.
Yeah, the middle nigga couldn't afford to steal some Louis shit, man.
That was fucked up.
But why are you still?
But that's why I'm saying LaVar is setting up bad.
Because it's basically like saying, yeah, my son stole, so what?
He shouldn't be suspended.
What do you mean?
You know what I mean?
It's like, yo, dog, he has to be suspended.
No, I think they was talking about him coming off the bench.
Not being suspended.
That's also bad.
He said they have
the best shooter on the team coming off the bench.
That kid is not the best shooter.
I don't think he's the best shooter on the team.
Matters none. I'm sure that wasn't
in their arrangement. I'm sure
there was an arrangement for him to send his three kids over there yeah so i'm sure he's he's beefing about the arrangement
whoa i know what happened i know my kids stole something trump did some shit i know all that
yeah so that changes things we back in the states and we back to basketball no no we're not no see
that's the that's the thing joe he can't think like that i'm with you he has to understand what
happened was totally out of left field.
The school didn't expect it.
Like, things change now.
Now you got to shuffle the deck.
It's a new plan that has to come into play now.
And pulling your son out of school, that shouldn't be part of the plan.
I'm sorry.
I can't agree with that.
Like, he's turning this into, he's trying to make it seem like his son is bigger than
the game or bigger than the school.
And he's not. Right. Yes, he is, nigga. He's not. He's trying to make it seem like his son is bigger than the game, or bigger than the school, and he's not. Rob Markman, Right.
Yes, he is, nigga.
Rob Markman, He's not.
Rob Markman, He's not even that nice.
Rob Markman, He's definitely not.
Rob Markman, Whatever, still.
Rob Markman, And that's the thing.
It's like you're setting a bad... You're just putting too much bad shit out there on
your kids already, because now, no matter what LiAngelo does, he's going to have a target
on him.
He's going to feel like, yo, your pops, y'all privileged
and they're standing there.
You bring too much attention and energy
to your kids that they don't need.
They're already under a magnifying
glass and they're already under a microscope.
People are already trying to go at them.
You're just adding to that with
all of this dumb shit. No one can
because he's not playing basketball.
We're watching this 6 o'clock sport.
Where's Jemele Hill?
Did I miss something?
Maybe on vacation.
Why might Mike keep throwing it
to all these other black people?
They announced it.
Jemele's name was in the intro.
I know that.
So maybe she's just doing some shit.
I'm just making sure.
Do y'all care about the Giants
firing all these niggas or nah?
Do you care about Steph Curry getting hurt or nah? Do you care about Steph Curry
getting hurt or nah? Do you care about
Kyrie on a rampage or nah?
I mean, will Kyrie be on a rampage?
It's great that the Giants are doing that.
The Giants, though, they had to do something.
Yeah, they had to do something. I can't believe they fired the GM, though.
Why not? He's been there since
94. Trash.
One bad Super Bowls.
Is he trash? Yes, he's trash. I don't know that he's trash. How? They won bad Super Bowls. I know. Is he trash? Yes, he's trash.
I don't know that he's trash.
How?
They won two Super Bowls.
Okay.
All right.
So I hate to be stat man.
Since 2010, there are two players on the Giants that Jerry Reese drafted.
That's a bad GM.
That's true.
Reese drafted.
That's a bad GM.
That's true.
For however many years,
he ignored the offensive line.
He's the person that picked
Eric Flowers
with the pick right before Gurley.
For many years, you've ignored
the running back situation.
Like, come on.
He's a bad GM.
Those are both commonplace things in the NFL.
You cannot miss in the draft that many years
and keep your job.
The Seahawks have.
They have?
When did they draft?
Their offense line is trash.
They have no running backs.
But they also hit in the draft a lot.
They hit in the draft a lot.
This nigga's hit twice.
Landon Collins and Odell.
Yeah.
Odell's a pretty big hit.
That's the end.
I like the Ingram kid, Evan Ingram.
I like him.
Also a good hit.
I like Sterling Shepard.
I like him.
Also a good hit.
Any football mind that doesn't know the game starts and ends
on the offensive line.
I agree, but there's a lot of teams that ignore the offensive line.
It's over.
We're not going to turn this into an NFL podcast.
Yeah, we definitely not.
I don't even want to boycott that shit.
All right, a Jeezy track list is out.
One, Spider.
Two, Cold Summer featuring Tee Grizzley.
Three, In a Major Way featuring Payroll Giovanni.
Four, Floor Seats featuring 2 Chainz.
Five, This Is It.
Six, Bottles Up featuring Puff Daddy.
Seven, Valet, Interlude.
Eight, Respect.
Nine, Pressure featuring Kodak Black and YG.
Ten, Like Them featuring Tory Lanez and Rick Ross.
Eleven, The Life featuring Wizkid and Trey Songz.
American Dream featuring J. Cole and Kendrick Lamar.
Thirteen, Snow Season.
It's weird.
Only the WizKid one was in it.
Track 12 says American Dream.
It's not typical Jeezy.
Featuring J. Cole and Kendrick Lamar.
So let's start there.
That's interesting.
For two people that have said that they were going to do a joint album together,
they have not put out music together at all.
Kendrick and J. Cole?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's why I said that's interesting.
I'd like to hear how that song sounds
because Jeezy is...
I like socially conscious Jeezy.
Yeah, me too.
And I feel like with those two features on that record,
then that's probably what it is.
Yeah, American.
Other than that,
it would probably be who's the best rapper in the world.
I don't see J gz making that record right the joint with uh tori lanes and and uh and raw sound like it
could be interesting that sounds like it could be kind of crazy whiz kid is interesting for gz
because i mean typically those are the features that are on gz albums am i gonna have to apologize
to gz now what did you say about? What happened, man?
Quiet storm, nigga.
What you mean?
He's fighting the quiet storm.
That's what I said.
He's fighting the quiet storm.
You know what the quiet storm is, right?
No.
When it's quiet for a nigga.
It's a good, bomb, deep storm.
What you about to?
Come on, more.
I see why you say that, but again, this is why you can't say that, though, when shit
like this comes out. Because then it's like, but again, this is why you can't say that, though, when shit like this comes out.
Because then it's like, I mean, it sounds interesting.
I'm interested in at least four of these records already.
I want to hear it.
Yeah.
This sounds good, and it looks good.
It's presented well.
I want to hear it.
Even if every Jeezy album hasn't been super great, to this day, everyone still is like,
oh, yeah, I'd like to hear from Jeezy.
I just don't like that we ignore criticisms.
We ignore shit about niggas we like.
That's my only beef.
We like Jeezy.
So nobody ever wants to say that Jeezy's fighting the Quiet Storm.
I mean, Maul's been arguing that with Ice for a while, so I don't even know how he sit here and say that.
No, not the Quiet Stone.
Me and Ice's beef has always been he felt like Ross versus Jeezy.
Yeah, Ross versus Jeezy.
He felt like Jeezy was a better rapper and making better music than Ross.
I don't know how Ice could think that.
And I love Jeezy.
Probably not as much as Ice because I wouldn't say that, but I like Jeezy a lot.
But he doesn't rap better than Rossoss or make better music than ross no
that was always my argument not that it was quiet for jay-z and in regards to that when it came to
them two i was saying ice is as clear as day jay-z can't make music like ross never been quiet for
jay-z i wouldn't say quiet i wouldn't say quiet uh he quiet. A couple of joints he put out didn't really stick.
But, you know, I'm not going to say it's been quiet for him.
Like other artists that come to mind when I think quiet,
I can't put Jeezy in that.
Yeah, give me some of the other artists then.
That is quiet for him?
Just give me somebody else that come to mind when you think quiet storm.
That's still trying to be relevant or trying to put out music?
Well, now, I don't think Jeezy is trying to be relevant or trying to put out music? Well, now,
I don't think Jeezy's trying to be relevant.
I don't think Jeezy has ever tried to be relevant.
I think Jeezy talks to a certain group of people.
Right, right.
He has a built-in...
I think he'll always be relevant to those people.
Right.
I guess when we start talking about relevance,
and y'all know that I'm never the one
to start talking about relevance. I don't give a fuck about that. But when you talk about it, I guess you we start talking about relevance and y'all know that I'm never the one to start talking about relevance.
I don't give a fuck about that.
But when you talk about it,
I guess you're talking about
to the casual fan
and the casual fan
would say that
it's been quieter for Jeezy.
In comparison to who?
Or just in general,
it's been quiet?
To however many people
the attention span
of the casual fan can hold.
Which in but so many people.
You should only compare him to
who he kind of came in to the game with that that era because it's been a long jesus been
in the game for a while you can't compare his relevance to kodak black because it's just not
fair i only compare people like you could do it to ross because they both kind of came in
relatively around the same time to see who's lasted. I only compare people to themselves.
I'm only going off himself.
I'm anxious to hear this album.
I won't lie with this track list.
Yeah.
And I will say that
after my Jeezy critique
on Everyday Struggle,
quite a few people hit me
to tell me all the behind the scenes
things that Jeezy does
that I didn't know about.
Well, yeah,
he definitely took some time off
to not only do the Atlantic thing, but he was huge in YG's success. Yeah that I didn't know about. Well, yeah, he definitely took some time off to not only do the Atlantic thing,
but he was huge in YG's success.
Yeah, I didn't know that.
When they were at Def Jam.
So, yeah,
I mean, Jeezy definitely
has been...
The record with him and Puff,
I want to hear that.
I want to hear that.
Bottles up.
Because Puff definitely
That was supposed to come out
mad long...
I felt like Low told me
that that was out
and I was trying to find it.
Oh, so this is an old record.
I hope it's not old music
oh gz signed where uh atlantic now not def jam or was he with def jam all the def jam niggas that
uh might be how ross was signed to def jam but his label was on atlantic moved to atlantic
um yeah but but cte might be on atlantic i think is on Atlantic and I think Jeezy has
I was told Jeezy has a job
a title at Atlantic
he's at A&R
yeah and if that's true
then I have to take back
all of that shit
that I said about Jeezy
because he's rather busy then
Agency 9
Def Jam recordings
okay
I don't know
I don't know
gotta wait to see
what Paul and Noah do over there.
See if they can right the ship.
Yo, so real quick, and I wanted to tease this earlier
when we were talking about how there's nothing to do in New York.
I do have something for you to do in New York coming soon,
and that is as much as I can divulge at the moment.
But if you trust me, like some of you should trust me
after all of these years of building trust,
then just come.
It's dope.
I'll announce it later at some point soon,
maybe like a week or something.
Yeah.
That's all I got, man.
All right.
You guys got anything else?
Is there a story that's going to break tomorrow?
Of course.
Probably tonight.
Ten of them.
Of course there is.
Yeah, ten of them. It's fine to break tomorrow? Of course. Probably tonight. Ten of them. Of course there is. Yeah, ten of them.
It's fine.
Sleepers?
Yeah, sure.
I can't wait to crush the game in my Supreme Scullies.
Crush the game.
Especially when Maul's around.
I'm not even going to wear my Supreme Scullies if Maul's not around.
For real, because you've got to compliment me.
Okay.
You've got to say that's hard.
When he's crushing the game.
But why, honestly,
every week, Supreme, no, you're not trash for that.
Not every week. Every week I see you.
No, not every week.
You can switch up a little bit. That's like when Royce was wearing Gucci
every week. It's brand loyalty, man.
No, I don't wear it every week.
All right. I'm watching you, man.
Okay.
Roy, what's up?
What barefoot shit we got?
We got some real barefoot shit today.
We put some barefoot shit out, man.
Roy Woods just put out some barefoot shit.
You like his album?
I do, and this is coming from someone who's been very critical of Roy Woods.
Your niggas always want to qualify it with their harsh opinions.
Well, no.
I like it, and this is coming from someone who doesn't really rock with.
No, because I've shitted on him
on this podcast a lot.
And I'm waiting for the mentions
to fill up like,
oh, now you like Roy Woods?
Because I have said negative things
in the past about his music.
So I'm happy that he put that out
in my life.
All right.
I'm like, all right.
I like any song that starts like a Sade song.
Sade will kill us.
You were watching me.
You not the sleeper. Sade, come on with some breathy shit. I don't have money A little bit
Oh, if it's time to make your spouse feel good
Then make sure that you got all your plans done right
Cause I'm not sure if she was ready
And I don't really know what they can tell me
About our love so special What do they know about our flavor?
Tell me if it's real so I don't slap myself
Cause there's no point in hiding, I feel ignited with your love
It's all obvious, I'm sorry that it's pure, yeah
I think I need a little bit of lovin', a little bit of somethin'
I think I need a little bit of lovin', a little bit of somethin' from you
I think I need a little bit of lovin', a little bit of somethin'
Cause this love is all I have
If you like me now, wait till you get used to me
This is not no sit down, drink it up
We could dance all night, girl come and rock with me
This ain't the same old love that you can get every week
Come take a trip round the world with me
I will take a chance to get down with you My past is my past, leave that behind
I'll give myself to you I think I need a little bit lovin', a little
bit of somethin' I think I need a little bit lovin', a little
bit of somethin' for me I think I need a little bit of lovin'
A little bit of somethin' for me
Alright, brand new Miguel off that War and Leisure album.
That's Rory Woods.
Oh, that was Rory Woods doing a song that sounds like
Miguel would try to do it on his new War and Leisure album.
Rory Woods gonna snuff you.
Miguel gonna snuff you. Everyone's gonna snuff you. Miguel's going to snuff you.
Everyone's going to snuff you.
Y'all think that they can take me.
I can't have my OG getting snuffed out here.
They can take me.
Asking if somebody can take you is funny.
Do y'all think
that they can take me?
Yeah, play your fucking Griselda, nigga.
I forgot we was clowning how
Joe fought on Sunday.
We were saying Joe fights like this
and says take your best shot.
I don't want to fight any nigga that fights like that.
They can't see you, Rory.
We have...
Any nigga that throws his hands up like that, you got it.
He plays basketball like that too.
There was a nigga in Bloodsport
that fought like that that fucked a nigga up
until that Asian nigga came in there with the
Asian nigga was ill and threw that
dust all in Joe.
Yo, you know, Joe really liked
that movie. No, no, no. Joe really likes
Bloodsport. This is like the third time
you bought a Bloodsport. No, you know why?
Because Bloodsport as a kid, that
was my movie. You used to watch that
before you got in a fight? He was one of those guys.
You thought he was Bolo?
He thought he was Bolo.
He watched Mad, John Claude Van Damme.
Why are they filming her?
I was trying to figure that out, too.
I hate when they put a sick dog or person on the screen as they film them.
Nigga, go help them.
Get the camera out of their fucking face.
Anyways, John Claude Van Damme threw that shit in that nigga's eye. He was fucked up.
That nigga couldn't see for about an hour.
And he still wanted to fight somehow blind.
If you don't get Jean-Claude Van Digger
the fuck out of here.
I know. And now he's having to do
flashbacks of when he learned
to fight without eyes.
That's what Charlamagne was
saying about listening to Harlem World now.
It's like, yeah,
but if you look at a lot of old movies,
you get the same,
but that doesn't mean it wasn't a great.
Yeah, I don't like him saying that
because Ready to Die today don't sound the same.
Yeah, it's a lot of shit
that you don't listen to from back then.
You'd be like, the beats.
36 Chambers, different today.
It's a lot of shit.
The purple tape, different today.
It sounds different.
Now, they all age differently.
I don't think they age.
Ready to Die, I don't.
I listened to 36 Chambers and the Jib the other day.
That shit was hard.
Ready to Die does not sound bad.
Yes, it does.
Yeah, no, dude.
Yes, it does.
Not to me.
There's a couple solos for sure.
When you put that, the album, the whole album, not certain cuts.
When you put on the whole album, it sound like 90s boom bap.
I mean, it is.
I know.
And that sound
didn't carry very well to
2018. I disagree.
You're a backpacker. That's true, but
there's a lot of boom bap shit
that still goes.
Like what? Well, no.
It is. That's true. Ready to die?
No, that's true. But I guess it just don't sound as dated.
Like, Life After Death don't sound dated at all.
That's true.
Life After Death.
There's definitely certain cuts on Ready to Die that age poorly.
I agree.
Yeah.
Yeah, for real.
Come on, Mo.
We won't make a conversation, but later I want to know which records y'all think don't sound well off Ready to Die.
I have to look at the track list for sure. Okay, we'll get to that after I guess. But no, I don't even want to know which records y'all think don't sound well or if I did I have to look at the track list for sure okay we'll get to that after I guess but no I don't even want
to do it on here um just join I'm gonna play a song from uh Chris classic now I didn't really
I didn't know that Chris rapped as well as he does like I didn't who Chris classic you know
Chris Chris classic Instagram Chris classic I don't know what it is you know Chris but I didn't
know he I didn't know he rapped as well as he does.
So this is a join-off of his project.
It's called A Father Figure.
Is it about to make me sad?
Yeah, turn me up.
Oh, the nigga start with turn me up.
Yeah.
Yes, you're getting sad.
He can rap.
Chris Classic.
I know him.
Let me see a picture.
Mr. Robert Glasper.
2016s. Check. Mr. Robert Glasper 2016's
Check
Part of me young and I really does this
Give him a rhythm and listen to what the buzz is
Flip it like Gabby Douglas
Here to be your father figure if he didn't bother with ya
See it's right there in the heart I get ya
Look at how they treat your mother
Common used to love her
The rest they only fuck
I despise some of your brothers
Family is dysfunctional The fuck they want us to do How they treat your mother Common used to love her to rest They only fucked her I despise some of your brothers
Family is dysfunctional The fuck they want us to do
Wanted to be a Huxtable prior to 1992 Before Panameras and Carreras on Terrace Ave
Young Jehovah's Witness Tempted to touch like Beresham
Just understand I don't need a man to be my fan
But my shit is fire You a liar if you don't jam
Officially I've been readily, steadily Spittin' heavily over heavenly medleys
Hum the melodies
I live in centerpiece centerreach down in Tennessee
Forgivin' enemies over better beats sippin' Hennessy
You see that face that you just made like you farted
It's part of the reason I started and now your favorite artist
Now I don't think that I'm better than a trap nigga
Shoot I salute any dude if you can rap nigga
But sometimes I'm like what the fuck is that nigga yo gabba gabba god damn it you wack nigga no
complaining just explaining arrangements modern-day entertainment is no longer
entertaining no I ain't trying to come off preachy and shit you know talking
about global warming all geeky and shit cuz trust me I like fucking girl freaky
and shit but the problem with our young is who's teaching them shit
Damn classic, back at it again
With them whites, Stan Smiths from Okinawa, Japan
Size 44, got them raving like Baltimore
Purple and black, hurting the track, the Bruce is raw
Trust me, I could keep going, I could keep flowing
I could keep showing, I'm overdue for my moment
I could keep hoping, like Bob wanted open
It must be broken, I'm doping in most of these poses
I've been composing but they never notice
Yeah, nigga, could you always in charge?
That's Chris classic
Chris is in charge now right now right right right now. Yeah, I didn't know Chris rap that well either
Oh, yeah, I saw that clip when Rocky posted it. And I was like, damn, Chris is going.
That sounds great. So shout
out to Chris.
I'm gonna play a song
That's the point of this segment.
that you never heard before. That was
an old drop that your 19-year-old
ass probably is not aware of.
Every time Rory tries to fucking come in with a joke, I forget what I was doing.
Oh.
Because you flustered.
I am.
Flustered is a funny thing to be.
I'm flustered a lot.
Oh, here.
Where is it?
I don't want to play the wrong exclusive.
Where is this song Uh oh
Did I ever play this song
This is not my sleeper
But
I forgot about this song
I may not play this song
But I'm not supposed
To have this song
Just about
I don't think
You're supposed to play that record
Yeah that record is hard
Um
Well where the fuck
Is this record i'm looking for
oh come on man with the bullshit
here we go all right so i'm gonna play a record uh from a gentleman named la you might have heard
his music before because i've championed it a lot on this very podcast his album is hard uh and he's great so i'm gonna play this song
uh this is called well on his album right this was the blue interlude on his album and boy did
i love that interlude i loved it so much and i don't know why r&b niggas like to take the best
song they've ever made and then make it a 60 second interlude that's the thing with r&b niggas like to take the best song they've ever made and then make it a 60 second interlude
that's a thing with R&B
niggas and I want them to stop it and every
time they do it I hit them niggas
and I say yo that interlude
extend it
make it a song right
so I said that to LA just joking
around one day on Twitter and he replied
and said no it's a song already
so oh shit Mace is calling
back might as well answer here hey Mace real quick cuz I'm doing my podcast I can't talk one I heard
that shit you just put out that's great too it's real quick where do you rank yourself on the list of bad boy mcs
second what do you think about about about these
egregious rumors going around of charlamagne saying that you are probably the sixth best mc
is he a little off i mean if i think i'm second he's like
he's four spots off
mace i missed you right
you ready what happened give me me give you something else.
When you hear me, when you hear me,
and I'm supposed to say this respectfully.
If you take me out of it, you say, where's Jada Kiss?
I'll put Jada Kiss in my top five.
But if you take me out of it objectively,
how does it make sense?
Because I know I'm kind of in two different spaces
but everybody everybody has kids in the top five mates you didn't say anything all right all right
so so but when when you say and now if all of us are sparring on hot 97 go back to the mixtapes
and say okay when i heard m Kiss, they both got off.
When I heard Mason Kiss on the Vacant Lot song, they both got off.
My verses are legendary on those.
When we went to 24 Hours to Live, we both got off.
When you go to... Oh, you're saying if niggas think that Kiss is top five
and you get off every time you're with him, then you would have to be.
I understand what you're saying. niggas think that Kiss is top five and you get off every time you're with him, then you would have to be. I understand what you're saying.
I would have to be.
And when we went to Hot 97 with me, Big, and Kiss,
I was the unicorn in the room.
I don't know you rap with Kiss today.
Call Kiss today.
That's what I'm saying.
And I love Kiss.
Kiss is up there.
I got Kiss up there
with Biggie and the rest of them
but Kiss is amazing
this ain't really about Kiss
it's more about
Depp and Craig Mack
and Black Rob
alright
Mase
let me call you
I'm gonna call you right back, my nigga.
Yo, academics better not be on that witch hunt.
I love academics.
That's why I wanted to talk to him.
I said I love academics.
I know he ain't on that witch hunt.
No, no, it's Charlamagne, man. It's Charlamagne. I't on that witch hunt No No it's Charlamagne man
It's Charlamagne
Yo I made you back Maze
Yo that's funny
That's some funny fucking shit
Maze really talks like that
Well if I think I'm top two
He's four spots off
He's four spots off
Which made mad sense
I like
Do the math
You know what I mean Six Two from six It's four spots off. He's four spots off. Which made mad sense. I like it. Do the math. He has four spots off.
You know what I mean?
Six.
Two from six.
It's four.
Yeah.
That was deep.
Nigga laughed at Black Rob.
He laughed at all of them niggas that you named.
He had a high note.
Craig Mack and Depp.
Wait, no.
Told the car first.
He fucking hit a high F on that left he said black
and then that shit went ham i feel him though he might want to leave kids alone today
i tell him tell him that much hey the unicorn today mace leave that nigga kissing with fab
somewhere i don't know though we might need to deal You know what I mean Anyway
Oh so
So LA right
So I was playing around
With LA
I said yo
The interlude from your album
Blue
It should be extended
He hit me back
He said it's extended already
I gave him my email
He sent it to me
He told me that
If I felt like
Letting you people hear it
Because of sample
Clearance issues
That it wouldn't be a problem
Cause there's a feature
Artist on here
and man this shit is fire
that was your impression of mace no that's my anything that sabrina's on right now
is giving me that she's on a little hot run she's on on a streak. She's hot. Yeah. She's heating up. No, I mean she's hot.
No, no.
She's hot.
She's hot.
So this is Blue, the interlude, but it's no longer an interlude.
This is a song off of L.A.'s project.
Oh, my.
Nah, I don't even feel like I'm doing this.
I'm doing this wrong.
Because the nigga ain't even hit me to tell.
He sent it to me and didn't tell me who was on it.
He didn't tell me anything.
He was just like, you know how a nigga bless you with some fire in your email just knowing it's fire?
You don't say shit.
No subject.
Live.
Yeah, just live.
Hit me later, my nigga.
It ain't like hit me.
Let me know what you think.
Yeah, it ain't that.
It ain't that at all.
Why don't you see that I'm right for you? me. Let me know what you think. Yeah, it ain't that. It ain't that at all.
Brand new from L.A. featuring Sabrina Claudio. This is the Blue Remix.
Night out.
You know that I have
some scars
But tell me you feel nothing
And I'll leave you as you are
Up late every night trying to figure out what went wrong
I just wanna talk to you, promise that I won't take too long
You got a heart and it's telling you to give me a chance
A chance
Cause I can see your world
It's right surrounding you
And baby it's so purple
I wanna see it blue
Oh yeah I see your aura
It's right surrounding you
Right now it's dark and purple
I wanna see it
I wanna see it
I'll call you later, okay?
I know relationships aren't gonna be all sunshine and roses
But I'm not really having that much fun anymore.
And I don't think we're in there.
There's a whole lot of other music.
Well, who started that, Berg?
We got to salute Berg, man.
Salute to Berg.
Berg is in New York now trying to help finish Cardi's shit.
Berg?
Yeah, that's all I got.
All right. Shout out to Burr.
That was great.
Great podcast, Maul. It's been great
watching you watch your phone.
Rory, always good to see a red beard.
You don't see that often.
Nucris Brown. You're Nucris Brown.
So, I mean, that name is cool.
Parks is wearing my merch, so that's awesome.
And Savon is actually the only real awesome person here.
So, always good to see him.
He ain't bringing a sandwich today, right?
Nope, there goes your awesomeness.
Ann sent the wrong Jocelyn diss.
Wait, Ann going to say, nah, I didn't.
Well, why not, nigga?
Fuck your sandwich. I was hung not, nigga? Fuck your sandwich.
I was hungry for this.
You know what I mean?
Let that nigga know, man.
Let that nigga know, Savon.
Let me know what?
To fuck my sandwich?
Yeah.
Nigga, no.
It's over, nigga.
I don't want no damn sandwich now.
Jimmy Valvano. nobody died, right?
Jimmy Valvano died years ago.
I know, Maul.
I'm asking if anybody died this week.
Oh, no, this is V-Week for Cancer.
Jimmy Valvano week.
I swear I'm forgetting something real important.
But, I don't know.
Something real important?
Have y'all seen Al Bichir lately?
No, where would I see Al Bichir? That's not one of the people you should meet. Right here. In your phone? Yep. I don't know something real important have y'all seen Albie Shore lately no
where would I see
Albie Shore
right here
in your phone
yep
in your saved IG picture
Jesus Christ
what the hell
yeah
old Albie Shore
Albie not
why does Albie Shore
look like the penguin
in uh
well
let me give some credit
to this woman
what's her Twitter name?
At Danny underscore Monet, M-O-N-A-E.
She definitely said this nigga went from I'll be sure to I'll be damned.
And on that note, I'm out.
One.