The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 141 | "Everyday Struggle"
Episode Date: December 20, 2017The explanation you’ve all been waiting for, Joe elaborates on the departure from his old job, he also highlights the importance of integrity (11:28). Then Joe, Rory, and Mal finally give their revi...ew of the Eminem album (1:21:00). The Black Thought Freestyle sparked a lot of attention this past week, which inspired the guys to reveal their list of lyricist they believe are elite (1:42:51). No, this is not their top 20 rapper’s of all time list. Enjoy. Sleeper picks of the week: Joe: Diddy (ft. Nas and Beanie Sigel) “Journey Through the Life” | https://youtu.be/Jm9qUdUynpk Mal: Shawn Smith “Baby Alien (Freestyle)” | https://youtu.be/X04SNo2QoYE Rory: Albee Al “Funk Flex Freestyle” | https://youtu.be/BStk1lWZpoI
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Come out the bathroom with boots on.
Parks came out the bathroom with boots on.
That's pretty funny.
That's sick.
And the brown boots that I've never even seen anybody have.
The brown Timbs is funny.
The brown Timbs?
Yeah.
Yo, the color Timbs you wear, bless you,
tell you a lot about the type of person you are.
Like Harlem niggas, Harlem and Queens niggas,
they used to be trying to freak the
thames like the blue tits all that is weird you know what's funny though people always talk about
new york with thames you detroit niggas wear more thames than any other fucking state in the country
they shoot everybody too so you don't want to talk no i'm not i'm just saying like they wear like
thames like the line like, Timberland jackets.
I think Detroit was largely responsible for holding South Pole down
whenever all of us thought they were trash.
Yeah, that whole middle America.
I think they're probably still wearing South Pole.
And somebody is supporting Lug still, too.
Yeah, Funk Flex.
Somebody's supporting all that bullshit.
And Echo Unlimited.
They still top 10 every year in sales.
Well, Echo owned Matt of those street brands. Pardon me Unlimited. They still like top 10 every year in sales. Well, Echo owned Maddido Street.
Pardon me, guys.
I can't hear the word Echo.
It reminds me of Mark Echo.
Y'all super low on them.
Yeah, I'm a little low.
Turn me up.
I'm lit.
I'm lit.
Turn me up.
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
Mic check.
Mic check.
Still.
There we go.
I'm a little bit better.
Yeah, I'm all the bit better uh now we good
so we can get this thing started
let me start with such a glorious moment
oh
oh my god
that's Rory crying
it is
that is me crying
thousand percent
that's Rory
yeah that's me telling Rory chill out
you heard
cause you was mad calm
daddy daddy daddy That's Rory. Yeah, that's me telling Rory to chill out. You heard? Because you was mad calm?
That's right.
Daddy, nigga.
How much did you watch?
Were you behind your shoulders?
Oh my God.
All right.
New Joe Budden.
Mic check.
One, two, one, two.
We are here. Welcome to the Joe Budden Podcast. check, one, two, one, two. We are here.
Welcome to the Joe Budden Podcast, episode number 142, I'm assuming.
And y'all ain't correcting me.
Whatever.
141.
I ain't got no job.
It's lit.
I ain't give a fuck about what episode this is.
Episode 141 of the Joe Budden Podcast, formerly known as OutNamedThisPodcastLeader.
I'm your host, Joe Budden.
Maul is here on time.
Rory is here. New Chris Brown here on time. Rory is here.
New Chris Brown is here again.
Savon is here.
Ann Parks is here.
And boy, do we've got a special show lined up for you guys today.
Hmm.
Oh, no.
Maul said, hmm.
We do.
We have a very special show. So, a lot to get to.
Last week, net neutrality was very important.
They're stealing the internet from us.
They stole weed.
They're stealing the internet.
They won't let niggas have nothing.
So, that's important.
I got fired.
Rory is really excited about that.
No, I'm here to console you, man.
Rory did that, so hopefully you won't have to go through that.
But I went through it.
Way to help you, my G.
But I still went through it.
And if I'm to look at how you have handled your unemployment, like...
It's lit.
Nah.
I've been bodying unemployment.
I don't really think Rory is bodying unemployment.
I am.
But wait a minute now.
I've never been...
But listen, I know what you're feeling.
I know you're probably a little lost, a little confused.
I'm here to help you out.
What's your interest?
Rory has been on at least seven flights since he's gotten fired.
More than seven.
Way more than seven.
Yeah.
That's bodying unemployment.
Yeah.
But when do you want to work again?
I was working.
That was work.
You think you got room on the roster for Joe for Henny Palooza?
I got you, bro.
What do you think you want to do?
Maybe be a lighting guy?
Maybe carry some speakers?
The dude that Millie rocked.
Roy asked me again if I want to be a lighting guy.
I'm going to snuff this nigga.
First of all, my resume that I've never written out.
You know what I'm saying?
I know all the job fairs and the schedule.
I help you with your resume.
I know people.
I got connections, man.
I can really help you out.
The UPS plug that I got that emails me every other day.
Don't be mad.
The UPS is hiring.
Yeah.
You should have been a cop.
Why is that line so hard back in the day?
You should have been a cop.
That was mad flagrant to tell a nigga.
You should have been a cop.
Fuck hip hop.
That's big as wow.
We're not starting with my unemployment, right?
No, we'll get to that later.
Let's start with something was in.
Oh, my child.
My child.
Let me tell you about my weekend.
How you have a baby and get fired?
Word.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Mo, how you doing?
Before we start any podcast, I'd like to see how you doing.
I'm good.
Your shape up extra crisp today for some reason.
I finally went to the barbershop.
You have on a dare scully, which is hard, but that's kind of hipster.
Yeah, drugs are really expensive.
And Rory the other day had on a parks and recreations hoodie.
Yeah.
Which is my swag.
But that's hipster.
And he tried to tell me that it was not.
It was literally the leaf that you see in front of every park.
Yeah, like parks.
I have none of them shirts. Hey, what's wrong with the park? It was just my merch. Who's supporting? Hipsters don in front of every park. Yeah, like parks. I have none of them shirts.
Hey, what's wrong with the park?
It was just my merch.
Who's supporting?
Hipsters don't go to the park.
Like the real parks.
That hoodie was pretty hipster,
but we won't get into her now.
So listen, my weekend, right?
Oh, man.
Fuck all my friends.
Yo, every time I'm trying
to distance myself from Rory,
he does like a stand-up friend move that reminds me of why I have to keep speaking to him.
Word.
So Friday comes, I go and I do this year-end wrap-up show with Charlamagne that came out really, really great.
And while I'm doing that that my baby girl calls me
and says
oh yeah
and then I was really excited about that
even though I had just promised
all the good people at Revolt
that I would be at their holiday party
I did want to go to that Revolt holiday
I did
I did
well you need to network now
because you're unemployed
that's true
but that's a good place
good place to meet people
that's not why I wanted to go that's not why i wanted to go though
i wanted to go because i feel like holiday parties build with holiday parties build all
rory's pulling out all of the words he loves holiday parties for adults are like proms i guess
like it's not that i really wanted to go but you should be offered to go to a holiday party
and
ladies don't fret
I'm not touching sexual harassment
this podcast yes I said fret
when you're unemployed you gotta show niggas
all of your vocabulary
you gotta really show niggas you can be a valuable asset
to whatever it is they're trying to do
a valuable asset
Rory knows nothing about valuable or assets.
Yeah, right.
Wait, now.
Joe joking.
This is funny, man.
I'm curious to see how this plays out.
Let's get to it, man.
Come on.
How what plays out?
More had no idea I was unemployed.
More staring at me like, what's up, y'all?
All the things that Joe was trying to clown me about,
the reasons I've stayed unemployed and not taken certain things,
is because I know my worth
and I'm highly in demand now.
Oh, God.
I'm highly in demand now.
Can Rory just tell us he knows his worth?
Oh, wait.
I'm so disrespectful.
No.
No word.
No.
No word.
No.
That shit is hard.
Streets is liking that.
Joe, you a dick, man.
What's wrong with you?
Why are you saying?
I didn't say a word.
Why are you?
But you just said you're ready to have fun with that drop, though.
I see it all in your face.
You think that's the funniest shit in the world.
That is the best drop ever.
That's the best drop ever.
You don't hear me freaking it in the beginning?
Rory Trash has nephew.
Who is this little Irish kid?
My cousin is not chump And he listens to this podcast
So I would honestly watch what you said
And I'm keeping it all the way above
No no no
My cousin that's his son
And he is not chump
Hey Connor
Hey give me some of these Irish baby names
He don't have a sense of humor like us
I'm just telling you that now.
All right, I'm going to chill.
I'm going to chill then.
I'm going to chill.
All right, do y'all want to start with me getting fired,
or do y'all want to start with Migos' video,
or do you want to start with-
Did Migos blackball you?
Is this why this is happening?
Did Complex choose Migos over you?
Yeah, I think they wanted-
Did Coach K make that call?
I think they wanted a Migos interview,
and they couldn't get it.
Let's start with unemployment, because there's so many different ways to attack unemployment.
Like, this is like sevenfold.
Monster.com.
I don't know what that is.
So y'all making jokes.
This is the places where you attack unemployment.
Pause, but I also recently just learned what Grindr is.
Not weed Grindr. I don't know also recently just learned what Grindr is. Not weed Grindr.
I don't know why you are learning what Grindr is.
Wait, because the nigga on Love & Hip Hop last night, Gay Rory.
No, that's Gay U.
He look way more like you.
Yo, the nigga on Love & Hip Hop, the gay dude, ran up on his boyfriend that's not really his boyfriend and was like yo nigga i catfished you i'm raul
and i'm like wait the guy he said raul from grand concourse yes he's raul so he catfished his gay
lover on grinder wait what is grinder oh yes is that like it's tender for gay men okay that's
kind of ill gay niggas get right to the business
of letting you know what the deal is grinder they're not here to they're not here to date
yo gay niggas are so blunt and straightforward i love them anyway there's like eight different
ways to attack this unemployment uh no one gets unemployed or fired fired when you have a newborn.
You would think the goal is to keep your job unless you're Rory and myself.
Yet here we are.
Gentlemen, how do you guys feel about me being unemployed?
Are you guys excited about that?
Let's get a round of applause.
Let me get a round of applause for me, man.
Honestly, I thought you were joking on Twitter.
Hold on, man. Let me get a round of applause.
I mean, because I didn you were joking on Twitter. Hold on, man. Let me get around to the floor.
Let me just really, I mean, because I ain't get a proper farewell.
I didn't get a proper send off and goodbye.
But that's why I thought this was all a joke, though, because it was kind of like you had the baby.
And I thought you were going to take like a week or two off and then be right back. All right.
So let me paint a timeline for some people, because I do see how this can be confusing.
All right, so let me paint a timeline for some people because I do see how this can be confusing.
And before we paint this timeline, you know, I do want to thank Complex for the tremendous opportunity that they afforded me with.
Wow, look at you copping. Please try to get your job back.
No, that's honorable.
He's trying to flirt with his new employer.
He's like, look, I even go out clean.
No, wait, I even go out. I respect that.
No, wait, Rory.
I know this podcast is here for the jokes,
and I want us to get all the jokes in.
But I have to make certain points because too many times Joe Budden
has Joe Buddened something.
Yeah.
Is that the case here?
No.
Because we don't know.
We're in the dark as well.
Okay, but we know that joe
budden will joe budden something yes we do the people in this room we know that we have witnessed
i thought that the people good folk over at complex and verizon were well aware of my history
and my past as well they thought it was an act too yeah i think they thought it was like a gimmick
or something so anyway all right so so let's paint the timeline here and unfortunately you know my heart goes out
to the other creators in the world and this is where i'll attack this seriously because
you know i'm okay i am okay me i have worked myself into a position where I'm all right.
I don't have I don't have worries. Right. That's not really the case for a lot of other creators, man.
A lot of other creators, unfortunately, when we get into this, this corporate atmosphere and around some suits and just around some execs and some people who just really don't understand
our culture our culture it puts creators in a very compromising position I will say that
let me paint this timeline for for some people and I want to start this timeline and again we're not
here to bash anyone we love everyone that we have worked with uh but I start to start this timeline. And again, we're not here to bash anyone. We love everyone that we have worked with.
But I start this timeline with the good people at Complex telling me for nine months that I can't smoke in the bathroom.
This is why you got fired?
No.
But I'm going to paint a timeline here.
As someone who comes, my background is in music.
My background is in the music business.
Yeah, we spoke.
In 2000, well, no, in 98, in 99, in 2000, in 2001, in 2002. I don't know when the
rules kind of changed but you
know where you were able to
smoke in corporate offices
the bathroom
we knew that
that was not allowed
the hallways too the steps
well yeah back then yeah
we knew that that was not allowed
creators i'm
talking to y'all we are afforded we are afforded some some different rights while we knew that was
not allowed for the job that we were doing inside of the building nigga they would go build you a
smoking chamber right if you wanted to smoke a cigarette if you wanted to smoke a blunt
if you wanted to smoke crack cocaine last decade at a record label and you were profitable
they would find a way to appease you that is important here because every time them niggas
said to me
why are you smoking in the bathroom
for me it was a constant reminder of people
that were out of touch
with culture
wait what
I'm with him I'm rolling
I'm gonna make a lot of points
that it may be hard to keep up with
I'll put it to you this way Rory
three weeks ago they
attacked security at
complex downstairs attacked trampled a man who was trying to break in to that building to get
to complex to speak to academics or myself I being the famous person there when people are famous you have to kind of cater to
their notoriety is what I'm saying I shouldn't be smoking anywhere the baby coming let's let's
keep it all the way but I'm working on that but when you tell a nigga you cannot smoke so let's
fast forward I create a show I do not care what the end credits of that show say Noah along with Elliot along with
some other people understand how this show came to fruition I didn't think it ever needed to be
addressed I didn't think it ever needed to be said because I'm a man of integrity. I live and die on right and wrong.
There wasn't very much to negotiate when I created this show
because I just created a show.
I mean, it wasn't profitable at all.
As a creator, I went into this venture
with a vision for what it could become.
What it quickly became
was the best hip-hop show ever in my opinion i'm biased
i'm biased i think that's accurate i don't think ever before in hip-hop there has been a show
where they just giving it up like that and i i do credit that to act as well. That dynamic between the three of us on that screen does not exist without everybody playing a part.
I think that part from day one was disregarded and ignored by whoever it is that is running Complex.
That's what I think.
I think that's fair to say.
Let me get an air horn in that, man.
Hold on.
Let me turn up my air horns, man.
Oh, shit. Wait horn in that, man. Hold on. Let me turn up my air horns, man. Oh, shit.
Hold on, man.
There, right?
I think that that's fair to say.
Creators, if you've created long enough, I'm sure you've gone through something like this.
Let me speed this timeline up for a little bit.
Day one, when I walk into Complex, I look at their objective, the company's objective on the board to see what it is they need to meet as a company.
I was aware of the company's standing when I got there.
I told academics, Noah, and plenty of other people for this show to be a success.
We kind of have to
address some of the other things happening in complex in month one and month two i noticed
that all of that shit was out the fucking window nobody really gave a fuck the way that i did
the way that i did that is important to say because this doesn't make anybody right or wrong it just means joe is is a lot more passionate and psycho neurotic
and obsessive than some other people right self-awareness is important here am i going
to tell a whole story without y'all giving a whole shit or something we're here i'm listening
i told you i'm all right so y'all are listening all. I just want to make sure everybody's still here and attentive.
Oh, let's see.
Month three.
They come to us and they say Nike has VaporMax sneakers.
And we're doing a sponsor integration or some shit.
We need you niggas to wear this. My business mind told me I knew better than that.
I wore it anyway.
That's a check, people.
And it's not a small check.
It is a rather large check.
Complex solicits rather large checks.
Do they share with the creators?
No.
No. No.
There you go. So that's fine.
Let's put that to the side.
What's a contract? That was a red flag.
Yeah, but contracts are made
to be broken. I rock like
the football owners. If the
contract is bad, then it's bad and we out.
That's very different today.
This ain't like last decade when you had to be locked into contract number one.
Number two, add value wherever you go.
So when you leave, you take that motherfucking value with me.
A contract means nothing to me.
Follow me?
I'm on board.
Fast forward.
Spotify calls them.
Spotify calls them. They want to they want to they want us to talk about a rap caviar playlist.
They want to insert topics for me to speak about candid under the guise of it being air quotes candid for no money or very little money as the creator of this show that's a problem so joe says no know what they said fuck you joe we'll do it without you
know what spotify said. No, you won't.
I'm telling you about a company that has now damaged a relationship.
With one of the top three streaming providers.
Creators, because I'm not talking to everyone.
Everyone will not understand what Joe fights for.
I'm talking to the creators.
I cannot create a show and you sell the fucking properties of that show without cutting a slice to the niggas that make that fucking show possible.
Sorry, that's not Joe being irate.
That is not Joe.
What are some of the adjectives that they say about me?
They say I'm a nutcase.
And granted, it's true.
It's true.
However, when you get with the nutcase, you got to stick with the nutcase.
The show only works because you're a nutcase.
Anyway, they lose the fucking relationship with Spotify.
They keep moving like nothing has occurred.
In between all of this, they start to incorporate guests on this show. I did not build and create this show to fucking talk to guests every day. I hate fucking guests. Now that i'm unemployed allow me to speak freely i hate all of you niggas
every last one some of my friends that know and love me can attest to this am i lying here
do i want to talk to any of these niggas honestly no no complex slash verizon though
in month one month two when they see the numbers because these people are so numbers based
and fucking focused on algorithms i don't check the numbers for this podcast know how i know it's
moving impact am i lying rory you are not but within that you have how long was your contract
how many months because i know you're saying fuck the contract if you don't like it but i'm just gonna play devil's advocate here if you signed a contract
where it said you get paid this much amount of money per month we get to control the ad revenue
we bring in that's why we're hiring you great so i can see now you wanting to walk say fuck that you
made too much money off me i'm not doing this again unless you renegotiate and i get a percentage of
nike vapor of the spotify bullshit whereory, where we are, let me respond
to you so you save some breath. Where you
are, this is
the renegotiation. This is
the end of the contract.
But I'll ask you, as your friend,
what did you think
walking into that contract? Of course it was a new experience
and no one knew exactly what it would be.
Complex is
going to complex, man.
They're a huge media corporation backed by Verizon.
Like, that's what's going to happen.
I thought,
if you're asking me what I thought,
I thought that Complex would recognize
what academics and myself
as outside entities and vendors
have done for that conglomerate.
And at the end of the contract,
they would show that they have appreciated the best year that they have ever had.
More subscriptions than they've ever had.
More audience.
This is saying now, today.
Yes, today.
Today.
Okay.
No, I'm going to put you on that side.
I'm saying when you walked into this.
Our show increased numbers for all the shows.
That's what I'm saying.
So when it's time to renegotiate, let me tell you people something.
I like to live in the future.
Like, as a creator, I try to be ahead of things just because I ain't nobody in real life.
So, I mean, if I don't beat you to the punch,
then I'm not going to get a glass of the punch.
So I try to do that.
You cannot, you cannot,
and let me say it again,
you cannot, you cannot not acknowledge the creators
and compensate the creators.
And if I were a poker player i would
be willing to move all of my chips to the table to say i'm not the only creator that feels that
way around there so i get that here's where rory here's where we are every label every like this
is nothing new where the where the company always thinks they're more important than the artist all
right let me help you here.
The world's changing.
The world has changed.
Oh, I'm agreeing with y'all.
I'm just playing the other side here.
Even the labels today, Rory.
Go talk to Nipsey.
Go talk to all these.
The labels today.
You know, I mean, I know what you're doing.
The labels today have to play a different game.
This is incompetence on the side of whoever is making decisions i don't know as a
creator though the most important thing for me is the correct home right very early on i recognize
that complex may not necessarily be the right home not for the show but for joe right yeah i mean let's
let's keep this all the way funky as someone who knows you and and knowing this show
just yeah you and act i think charlamagne said this to act a long time ago you was dumb for
doing that you could have brought all your youtube viewers by yourself and did your own thing and of course it's grown now but i think going to another we don't have
to name names of different media outlets but going to another one who says you're not going to run
into the exact same fucking thing oh you almost certainly will so i i think it's to a point where
fuck all of them grab act and do that shit on your own i pitched that that a while ago. That seems like a very easy solution.
Easier said than done, of course,
but when is something that you own by yourself ever easy?
I support ACK in getting every single fucking dime
that he should get from that building
for the services that he has rendered.
Say whatever you want about ACK.
ACK brought a lot to that show.
He brought a lot of viewership to that show. You fucking right.
He brought a whole different opinion that no one
in this room could ever bring. Right.
You could disagree with that opinion, but
it was some shit that none of us believe.
Even if he was hateable, that was a debate.
Well, we both were hateable.
We both are hateable. Which made the dynamic
so good. But we didn't hate each other. Right.
That's why it worked. Here's the thing
with Ack.
Ack has made his empire from YouTube.
By himself, which is also an amazing thing that I'll always give Ack credit for forever. But my point is, for him, for a 26, 27-year-old young man who already did his own thing, to worship and idolize some of these entertainers
like we all did coming up,
and to now be in a position where you get to meet some of them.
They know your name.
They're addressing you.
That is a big thing.
Yeah, 100%.
I am not that way, and it means nothing to me,
and I don't want to kick it with nobody.
However, I don't expect ACK to hold that same stance.
Well, yeah, because if it was you 10 years ago, and it was Prince and Michael Jackson,
you know what I mean?
You'd be like, ACK.
I'd have lost my fucking mind.
Right.
I don't want to talk.
I'm not mad at that.
It's terrible that Lil Pump is Michael Jackson in this story.
But go ahead.
Let's stay on topic. Let's stay on topic.
Let's stay on topic.
But wait, Lil Pump might be Michael Jackson to a lot of people.
Word.
That nigga got like three million followers or something.
But, so I don't expect him to do that.
My train of thought is always one of, you know, I can do it myself.
Right.
I can do this alone.
Whatever pitfall y'all about to provide, I can just go and rock. I have the capital. I have do myself. I can do this alone. Whatever pitfall y'all are about to provide,
I can just go and rock.
I have the capital.
I have the audience.
My thing is always cutting out the middleman.
Always.
I'm not sure that,
even though Axe's audience is bigger than theirs down there,
or the same.
Well, not Complex's entire audience.
Something as niche as Everyday Str everyday struggle of course yes yes
i would say axis is probably close to the same yeah so listen man it was just you know what
bottom line is no need to get into too much where just so we can get off the the un acting i i really
have no idea what you and x relationship really is have y'all talked about this since this
negotiation has happened we talk every day Okay. We talk every single day.
And before giving away any cards,
say what you will say and say what you won't.
Where y'all at in an agreement
on where this is going
next week? I have no
idea. Joe has nothing to do with anything
happening with that
show currently or
how they broadcast.
Okay. I support Ack and
whatever it is he is attempting to
do. Because he
earned it.
Niggas earned it. I don't think niggas is
asking for more than they have earned.
That's all. So I'm not going to get too much
into this right now because
I mean, niggas is telling
me I'm trolling.
I mean, you're a troll.
Yeah, I didn't think I was that big of a troll until so many people were telling me, nah, Joe's back.
He's taking paternity leave.
I've been telling Ian for three weeks, don't you dare book me a paternity leave.
You got to want to get out the house for a couple of seconds.
I mean, it would be a great new way to start everyday struggle.
You pretend to beef and then come back and then everyone watches.
Yeah.
All right.
So,
but all right.
See,
but that is my thing.
Let's get back.
Let's get back.
Let's get back in the business.
Wouldn't be cliche because I have seen that NAN marketing dollar spent on this
show all year,
whatever. IE the marketing this show all year. Whatever.
I.e. the marketing plan being your timeline.
Yes. I mean, let's be very
clear. The way that this show is marketed
and promoted...
It's Ian's Instagram.
My Instagram,
complex Instagram.
I thought that was a little weird.
The way they
pump the breakfast club in the city,
they don't do with y'all.
Somebody in that company has to be bright enough.
And I hold I heart in Verizon very close in companies.
So it shouldn't be something that's crazy to ask somebody not to the degree of breakfast club, but you know something something you have to be bright enough to recognize your flagship show is your flagship show, number one.
You have to be bright enough to recognize the impact that your flagship show has had
less than nine months out.
That's important.
I don't care about what losses you think you take.
I don't care about any of that shit.
I don't care. What losses you think you take I don't care about any of that shit I don't care what I'm finding in corporate
America is a lot of these places
act as boys clubs
there's a boys club in Complex
as there is
what you mean by boys club
there's a secret society
of
people that are taken care of it's back to when we say the labels play musical
chairs yes they just hire your friends you just hire your man you fucking you know each one teach
one of that fucking bullshit as vendors though hacking myself or not in that boys club so at
the end of the contract what did you think was going to happen right the fact that nobody everybody's confused
it speaks to negligence it speaks to people who have no idea how to handle this
why would i house it there right you're not i'm not gonna not be credited not be compensated not be made to feel good
be treated poorly and then fucking just laughed out i had my baby friday sunday
ian emails complex to say no no need to worry about a thing joe will be there
bright and early on monday know what they hit him back and said uh in receipt of your email in first of all in receipt in receipt of sounds like some bullshit
is coming joe's newly uh expired contract is indeed expired we have moved on uh if joe is
to come to work that would be awesome but he'll
accept this rate of pennies and biscuits my question to you gentlemen who know me well tell
me how i could go to work now you know tell me i mean it would go against everything you preached
on yes on that show yes tell me how i could do it hey here's another plot twist for you
know what eliminates all of the all of these money and financial and all of these concerns
your sales team your sales team if your sales team could sell anything we wouldn't have a problem
everything would be great sorry complex you cannot continue
to tell me that out of bounds is more profitable you cannot continue to tell me that blueprint is
more profitable you cannot continue to tell me that sneaker shopping is more profitable
guess what even if it is i don't give a fuck it's not my job to sell ads
I could call fucking WME
and go find a fucking ad sales team
but we do a million a day
you can't sell it
and you're telling me it's my fault
I take the hit
the boys club wins
Nadeska all of these people up there
that are in this exclusive club,
when Joe and Act perform well,
you niggas get bumps.
Joe and Act do not.
Joe is new to this employment game,
but one thing Joe is not is a fucking fool.
Somebody stop me when I'm saying something incorrect y'all protect me from myself but i it's similar to i just have to give your
foley it's similar to what you did at def jam you were an employee at def jam they gave you a
lump sum of money that you owed back it's it the same thing. It's not really, Rory.
The end result is the same.
Nobody on Def Jam was buying Ashanti's album
because Joe Budden came out.
It's not the same.
It's a million things different with the scenario.
A record label situation is long and long.
It's the same boys club.
It's the same marketing.
There's some people fighting for the artist
they want to fight for.
Come on.
It's the same boys club bullshit. It's the same end result fighting for the artist they want to fight for. Come on. It's the same boys club bullshit.
It's the same end result.
Of course, it's different because you're selling music and selling content.
It's different, but it's the same end result within the workings of that company.
I'm glad you said that, Rory.
It's the same.
Because while I think your example is a false parallel, what I will say is this.
Our show would be the equivalent of putting out a hit
single every day a new one right wait and let me hear wait don't say a word yet you're the label
i come to you with a new single every day and it pops it's a smash as the label you haven't spent a dime in a year plus the other thing too is
sometimes your biggest shit is they haven't spent the time sometimes the complex boss does the
sneaker shit right i don't know who the complex boss is someone very high in complex does that
joe lapuma does sneaker shopping joe lapuma is great shout out to him great great guy great
piece of content and sneaker shopping is great okay souma's great. Shout out to him. Great, great guy. Great piece of content, too. And sneaker shopping is great.
Okay.
So Jay-Z was the head of Def Jam when he was there.
Who is the building fighting for more?
Jay-Z, their boss in the boys club, or the guy that always yells at them and berates them and screams at them and speaks poorly of them?
Rory, I see what you're doing.
But because I want to keep this conversation on track, let me tell you how they're looking at it.
Quick question.
Were you in negotiations?
No, there has been zero negotiation.
This has been Ian and myself at Complex for the past five to six months trying to figure out what would be happening at the end of the term so
joe could properly plan his 2018 gotcha okay rory let me let me let me i feel where you're going but
but let me tell you what i think i think that some of these other shows that are whitewashed and i think that some of these other shows that don't have the loud
uh tattooed uh black nigga i think some of those other shows are easier to sell rory i do
and i do think that you could sell outside of outside of obvious of that, it's who we're all human beings.
People that work in these companies are human beings.
They're going to work harder for the people that they like.
Quick example, Dame Dash ran up and down those Def Jam hallways saying the truth all the time from everyone who I think in this room comes from the same place and moral palette that Dame did.
We agreed.
Dame's moral palette is a lot higher than other people.
Yeah.
And Dame went
and told the truth
all up and down
those hallways
and what happened?
People didn't want to
fight for him anymore
and that's how
the corporate shit goes.
That's why you have to
play the game
when you do that bullshit.
I agree.
I mean.
You have to.
No, I don't.
I'm not playing no game.
Then don't play the corporate shit.
Then don't play the corporate shit. Then don't play the corporate shit.
I'm not saying...
That's not...
I'm not saying play the corporate game.
You know what?
I'm agreeing that people kind of receive Joe the same way in your example that they receive
game.
A lot of people don't...
Rocks the boat.
Particularly like Joe.
Joe is very on his own thing.
And both people coming from a place that matters to this actual culture.
Yeah, integrity.
And not with these people that are hired and sit at their desk all day that don't appreciate it come from.
And those people are there for a paycheck and want to be in a nice environment, and that's not the environment that this culture is from.
I mean, in all honesty, Joe is just fighting a losing battle.
Which is why I think it's the corporate shit.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Corporate.
Why?
When I say that, it's because I hear your stance and everything that you're standing for and things you're fighting for, but you're outnumbered.
All right.
Let me stop you there.
So let me make my stance very clear.
I heard Stephen A say this not too long ago, and he echoed my sentiments exactly. one priority when I work in when I walk into work every single morning is how can I make my boss
way more money than he's making and number two is once I do that how can I make more
so I understand that and that's why this is a bit confusing and befuddling with complex
because I didn't ask them for a lot.
I wasn't asking for much.
For what I did.
Also, I don't think that's your type of mentality.
What?
How can I make this other person more money than me?
Well, in corporate, it became that.
That is corporate.
My very first day on the job, I told you what I did.
Which, i.e., is now why we're here because that's not you, which is an honorable thing to be.
Well, that's why. I'm coming up with all this.
Of course, complex that they think, because all those visuals look great.
It takes a lot to film something that early, cut it, and then put it out.
Let's give complex some credit there.
I'm not giving complex credit for shit.
There are a grand total of 15 people that work on that show.
Back to my point of why it ain't your mentality to do that.
No, this is where we go wrong.
This is where we go wrong.
I opened that building every morning.
I was the first person there.
Well, you up at 3 a.m. anyways.
But that's why I'm the, I take pride in,
and you know, there's some little things
that I take pride in that I was unable to showcase.
Rapping, like being on time, being involved in shit, like, you know, really seeing shit through. Well, yeah. And rapping, you know, being involved in shit like you know really seeing shit through
well yeah in rapping you know you go in the studio you make your album you put that shit out the fans
like it or they don't like it i mean and that's the end that's the end and now you go right back
in for the next six seven months of your life and hope that they nah nah let me be clear at no point
have i thought about rapping again but that's the problem that is the thing i don't to get in business with joe let me let me make
this announcement because there's a lot of niggas i'm talking to and a lot of people that are
talking to me i don't i don't i'm one of the creators that don't navigate with fear, I'm not afraid.
I have no quarrel in my ability to create.
So when you come talk to Joe about anything Joe,
any business related to Joe,
Joe needs to see that you are as invested as Joe. Know how Joe sees that? Either
in time, time, time, length of contract. Let's think sports. If I'm a franchise quarterback,
you're going to try to lock a nigga up. Time or money or equity or something, something.
There was zero effort on the side of Complex or Rich or Noah or Sean
or anybody up there to try to get this done in an applicable,
not applicable, what's the word I'm looking for?
I don't know the word because I got a brain freeze but in a in a in a correct manner none sorry i take my business elsewhere
i'm out you will not do that joe does too much on the ground floor i'm sorry that some of you
gentlemen are unaware because you sold your company to verizon and now you don't give a
fuck what happens at complex sorry Sorry. I'm sorry.
If y'all really want to talk about it, that has zero to do with Joe.
I am not in that boy's club.
I received not one red cent of Verizon dollars.
Who the fuck from Verizon going to tell Joe what to do and talk about and say?
Huh?
Joe's under contract.
Man, it's Joe at the end of the day still.
Which is why we're here.
Joe, Joe, Joe, I need no help feeling empowered.
I need no help feeling like I can do it on my own.
I'm not afraid.
God has been in control of all of this.
This 2017, which was a great year, man.
Hold up, man.
Round of applause for my 2017. which was a great yeah man hold up man round of applause for 2017 this was a great fucking year in unemployment i project 2018 to be far greater
no doubt i'm not worried every executive in 70 of the executives have hit my phone to say i'm playing you did the right thing
you and i have spoken aside about you are fighting the good fight do not let up that's what they are
saying they're also executives complex had those two and that's who you had a problem with no
complex had verizon executives
i'm of the belief that complex there's no such thing as a complex i believe that verizon is
calling complex shots which is why smoking in a bathroom and paying this little insignificant
amount of fucking money for the services rendered if there were hip-hop culture people in charge
there would be no conversation to have look on your fucking socials today the fans can't believe
it no i couldn't believe it i saw i just i mean in closing that corporate shit if you're not
pleasant to be around they're not going to want to continue to do it for example uh i want to say
it was Neil Brennan
I was watching an interview.
He was saying
when he picks people
sometimes for movies,
it's not the best person.
It's the one I can spend
a year around.
I mean,
and this is the thing here.
And that's where a lot
of corporate shit
comes down to.
You name it,
white people,
they want people.
And Verizon isn't white people.
But so you're missing
the greater conversation that I'm attempting to have because you keep talking about white people.
And I'm saying-
That's why we're here.
I know.
At the end of this.
I know.
What do you think the next step is?
You and I have had conversations on this side.
I'm playing devil's advocate here in your point because I know you'd rather not be not be with them in 2018 I know all the plans you have that we won't talk
about here but what I'm not saying is that was advocate here no but that's not what my point
what I'm saying is this that Jeezy interview happened on everyday struggle right and Jeezy
and and you know what listen I want y'all to go back and retroactively look at a lot of these
everyday struggle episodes.
For the past five, six months, I've been sitting in that room on that screen using every instance that came up in hip hop to directly relate to complex academics and myself.
Now that you have that information, it's beautiful how it all played out.
But let me go to that Jeezy interview because Jeezy is the nigga that looked at me and said this is when i was uh you know questioning his relevance and all types of shit he's the nigga that looked at me and said listen when the fucking when it when it ain't there it ain't there you do
what you got to do ain't no complaints the beautiful thing is when it ain't working over here, it's great to have your people to say, whoa, you down, my nigga?
I got you.
Your people to say, whoa, what was the problem over there?
They didn't understand your mentality, what you were saying, what you were attempting to do for this culture.
Hold up.
I got you.
So let me point out a few things.
a few things man i man i'm really appreciating the text messages that i am receiving from charlamagne that's number one my biggest fucking adversary uh damn near uh to you know perception wise
when you get down and and and and i won't say white people because I love white people.
But when corporate people know you talk about when corporate when corporate people just start treating you like you ain't shit, like you the scum of the fucking earth, like you gum on the bottom of a fucking 10.
No, no, no, no, no, no, Joe.
My my dignity, my and how I sleep at night is important to me.
Tomorrow, I'm flying to Miami to meet with somebody. I'm going to tell you how this unemployment shit is going to go.
I'm going to go talk to Puff the same way I was talking to Vice, the same way I was talking over here, the same way I was talking to Russ.
The same the same way we was the same way we talk to the same way we talk to everybody.
You got to have your ducks in a row.
We sort of writing on the wall.
This jig was up ages ago.
Ages, ages ago when those Friday episodes came with these guests without Joe where we're trying to sell and Joe might stop the money.
That says, oh, we're trying to replace Joe.
Yeah, 100%.
We're looking to get rid of
joe so what do you think happens today as of late when remy comes in there and says wait joe's not
shooting i'm not doing it when fucking when all of these people come in and say wait there's no joe
i'm not doing it that has to be respected somewhere somewhere or we out Or we out. Or we out.
So, UPS.
What's really?
You know what I mean?
They have really good benefits.
Freestyles during the drops.
Listen up. I know Lex needs some health insurance.
I'll hook you up, bro.
Oh, please. Lex is good.
Come on, man. Give me some heroin.
My baby is great.
My baby is great And he is awesome
Damn
How did we get into
Everyday Struggle
Without playing Everyday Struggle
Y'all are trash
Well we just
We jumped into it
That was you
Listen
We can end with it maybe
Nah
Nah
It's over
Listen
I did like how you started that
The way like
Ex-girlfriends start
That I'm fine
I'm good
Look at all the stuff
I have going on over here
But other than that,
I thought that was really good.
I thought you,
I think you didn't
Joe that response.
I didn't Joe it, right?
I think you were pretty good there.
Was I respectful?
Yes, I think you were.
All right.
You got everything out.
Was I sincere?
Yeah.
Yeah, I didn't know
that this would be
such like a media whirlwind.
It's like a big deal.
A whirlwind.
Yeah.
What's wrong with you?
What the fuck is a whirlwind?
Rory should really get a dictionary what a whole a whole the whole world wind world oh i said it wrong you're saying so
so now that you got all of that out the way i knew they was gonna get rid of your ass
niggas wouldn't listen to me i said they're gonna get rid of your ass the moment they decide i was
trying to say it nice small by saying he was tough to work i knew it i tried to tell you
niggas months ago joe your ass is out of there i knew it you did tell me i did i did did i believe
it no no i didn't believe it even when i read it on your social media i'm gonna be honest i'm like
nah they ain't so then when you got here and you saying all this i'm like wait this is real and you're like yes nigga it's like i'm like oh okay but i knew it i mean thank
you maul i knew it i knew it well why'd you know it because joe is wild not that you're wild joe
is crazy joe is a lunatic maniac who can't be controlled all of those things but you got to
understand that again corporate they don't as soon as they find a way where they could remove you
because they look at it like we should be thankful that they let us in yeah it wasn't a lot it wasn't
real arrogance for bringing that up it was a real arrogance yeah and and and yeah it was hurtful
that way i know i want to be very clear uh i want to be as vulnerable as possible i was hurt
i was disappointed i was saddened that i had put so much into building
something for the year and it was so recklessly mishandled but i mean one day we're gonna get
ak up here and he's gonna tell you that i said all of this way beforehand i said you can have
it hit and fuck it up yeah like that's easy to do. Yeah. But, Mo, to that point,
and I know we have our Henny Palooza jokes,
but the fact,
the meetings that we've taken
with these liquor brands,
and they have that, like,
you should be thanking,
we should be on your knees right now
begging to meet with us.
And I'm like,
dog, we do your job better than you.
Everyone on your marketing team at Hennessy
couldn't do one fucking thing we did
right because y'all don't understand this shit and then yeah we should be begging y'all to meet
would you go suck a dick well that's what i'm saying somebody at verizon had to know that the
ad money that you solicit with joe and the ad money that you solicit without joe are very different
bags they're different bags.
So at some point, if you want to keep this ship rolling,
you have to negotiate that bag.
You cannot just keep with the same bum ass bullshit offer that niggas turned
down five months ago.
Where did you think we would be at five months later?
The arrogance in how they negotiate
and how they treat view and handle talent says fuck you right well the funny thing about crunching
numbers too is they look at these other series as maybe more profitable but there's a thing called
loss leader loss leader which maybe you might this is a loss leader. Which maybe you might be more expensive. This is a loss leader. Right. They should know what loss leader is.
I would think that they would.
Ah.
Sometimes the biggest shit that you do is not the most profitable thing that you do.
Yeah, of course.
You know what I'm saying?
You may look at some content as a year-based thing and other things as a 10-year thing.
Right.
I'm comfortable losing money for the first three years.
Right.
Because I know past the five year, I'm making that back plus triple.
Or maybe I'm not making shit off of this,
but this is bringing so much attention to me
that I can make a lot more money over here doing the same shit.
Well, the good thing about all of this is...
Yeah.
Yeah.
This podcast.
Every week, I take a loss.
Right.
I take a loss.
Guess what?
So, one day,
this will make sense.
Right. It just makes sense.
I don't know, man.
I don't know what y'all want me to say.
I'm trying to be respectful.
So I'm going to shut up and fear that I might say something that is not respectful.
But I'm not angry.
I'm not angry at anybody.
I'm not mad at anybody.
I'm so thankful and glad that I have my people to help me through this and keep my morale high as I stare at my beautiful, gorgeous newborn.
Hey, I'm catching some heat for something I tweeted.
That was crazy.
What is wrong with these people?
What did you tweet?
I tweeted, parenting goes a whole different way when you love your partner.
Why did people take that?
I have no clue why that caused such an uproar.
Because it's so obvious no i think some
people took it as i was i was trying to be funny and disrespect my first my trey's mom and i wasn't
i wasn't trying to be shady trey's mom would probably say the same she would she said in
front of every judge she can get in front of i never loved this nigga how come the woman could
say it the second i say it is slander no No. But, you know, this is my, and I'm only speaking from personal experience,
this is my first time doing it a different way.
You know what I mean?
And it feels good.
It feels fucking awesome.
It felt good to be at the hospital, me, Rory, and my dad,
fucking sitting there crying, chopping the shit,
just in anticipation of this new child
it felt good to be in there i wasn't in there uh the first time it was a c-section i don't think
we were allowed to be in there back then my mom says that's a lie but whatever uh i was in the
room i was able to support her i was able to get cursed at yelled at fucking yeah yeah she was
fucking it was horrible in there i wanted to tell her to watch her tone
but
but she was bringing
life into the world
yeah but I mean
you had to kind of like
hey you don't have to
say all that
yeah I mean come on
that sassy
right right
giving me a lot of spice
right right
it's cool
I'm trying to take
the wet rag
off your forehead
right right
and it's falling
but I mean whatever
you did this to me
all of that
yeah yeah
you did this to me
I was really proud of Sin man I was really proud of Sin, man.
I was really proud of Sin.
Once she learned how to push, that baby came right out.
God bless.
And that was a process.
Man, I didn't know that women had to learn how to push.
Come on, don't get into this conversation.
I'm not.
No, no, no.
Rory, Rory.
I told you not to do this on the podcast.
Yeah, my baby told me.
I'm only that ignorant when I'm home.
I will not say that again.
Thank God.
But!
Alright, fine. I won't say it because Sim will kill me
and I'm not going to say it. But yeah, once you learn
how to push that with beautiful baby come out,
screaming, healthy, he's gorgeous.
I'm a little biased, but I don't think
my baby had to do that whole baby marinate
thing where you got to wait nine months to see how your child's going to look.
Oh, man, my boy looks good, man.
He looks great.
You know how a lot of kids look like aliens and shit?
Oh, my God.
He didn't really look like an alien.
He looked like a human.
Mo, you think when you have a kid, you're not going to look at his dick and see what's going on?
For sure.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm looking at on my baby boy.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
My nigga was, you know what I mean saying The person I'm looking at On my baby boy Yeah That's what I'm saying My nigga was
You know what I mean
He was alright
So he has
Sin's eyes
Let me break this down
I think he has
Sin's eyes
My face
My nose
Sin's mouth
Sin's hair
A lot of sin
She really contributed
Joe's beard
She really contributed
Nah she did a lot
Did he have a beard
That was a wild
Puerto Rico trip
He have a beard
Nah but he's got
Mad hair on his back
Like Ian
So that says
That the beard
Is probably going
The beard will be there
For sure
Is going to come soon
Give it two weeks
It'll come in
All it
Let me tell you something
All of this
I don't want to say it
But it was kind of
You know like
You had the shadow
After you don't shave
Yeah the shadow
It was definitely coming in
I did think he had
That fresh out
The pussy beard
Yeah like damn That nigga got a lot Is that a known thing Joe Dave, it was definitely coming in. I did think he had that fresh out the pussy beard.
Yeah, like, damn, that nigga got a lot of little.
Is that a known thing, Joe?
A lot of little chin hair.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But, I mean, that's what I thought about my baby.
Anyway, yeah, I just wanted to bring that up to say how proud I was to say how Rory was a great friend and hung out with me at the hospital.
And how I missed the revolt party.
And that's that. This is awesome and four moms that brand the brand four moms that is a great brand that
man air horns for four moms let them cut the check four moms products are making shit really
fucking great and simple and easy over there i'm loving it
my baby's a sleeper not a crier it's lit yeah it's lit i couldn't have chosen a better
partner to do this with baby i love you we're raising a king we're raising a king
it takes a village y'all bodied Ice's old room.
Ice's room is the baby room now. That shit's so funny.
Y'all bodied Ice's old room
is funny, but nobody
knows it. Ice's room is hard now.
Yo,
my newborn
has a better room than all of us.
Really, that room? I guess that's how it's
supposed to go. Oh, fuck it. It's fun.
When you guys gonna do it
Oh they did
Right
Hey
I ain't gonna lie
My newborn is applying
Some pressure over there
In the Rory household
Hell no
Rory trying to move
Oh wait a minute
Rory trying to move
Into some deluxe
Penthouse apartment
In the sky
Like the Jeffersons
Yeah
Yeah
Unemployed
Swag
I might need to put up
The lights at Henny Palooza
Damn
I actually want to Record the podcast there But we'll talk about That The lights at Henny Palooza Damn I actually want to
Record the podcast there
But we'll talk about that
Way later
At Henny Palooza?
No
At the New Jefferson
Who would hear anything?
Oh at the Deluxe apartment
In the sky?
Yeah I think it'd be
Kind of sexy up there
No homo
Racism brought us
A lot of our favorite
Sitcoms
True
I only say that
When I think of the Jeffersons Because All in the Family Birthed a lot of our favorite sitcoms true i only say that when i think of the jeffersons because all
in the family birthed a lot of great sitcoms one being the jeffersons so how do black people feel
about liking some shows that were stemmed from racism gotta appreciate it i mean out of some
bullshit do we like all in the family because i watched it but i didn't know that they was racist yeah as you get
older you realize how racist it was but he was funny he was funny he was definitely funny he
was definitely there's such things as a funny racist here's the thing i feel like black people
i feel like black like sitcoms can be racist too towards white people like we say a lot of jokes and things that only we as black people
would respect and understand and get and i can see how white people watching the show will be like
well damn that's kind of you know i mean like i get it it goes both ways i get it i get how like
white people can watch like an all-black sitcom and feel like they're the outcast like damn like
we're not invited to this.
Like, we don't get it.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, but that's kind of the thing with all in the family.
There was, like, white people that totally understood it.
And it was, you know, they got it.
It was because it was for them.
And us being African-American, we were kind of like, well, damn.
Like, that's how they feel?
So it could be the same for us.
Well, y'all hate for us is a little
bit more understanding than our hate for y'all so yeah wait so this gets us into a real interesting
conversation was different strokes had a little undertone uh not i mean because it was like
like you know adopted it was definitely some harlem jokes in there more yeah for sure yeah
but i'm not really gonna blame
Mr. Drummond
because he treated
Arno and Willis
much better
than the little white girl
yeah
round of applause
for motherfucking
Mr. Drummond man
yeah that white girl
was in like three episodes
we never saw the daughter
ever
Mr. Drummond
was a real one man
it's crazy
Arno was the only one
last standing
I feel like Willis and the white girl died like two years after that show.
I feel like all of them niggas died.
Will Drummond might have died during the show.
Yeah.
Rest in peace to all different strokes niggas that died.
Different strokes niggas that died.
All the different actors.
All the different actors with different strokes.
All the different strokes.
All the different folks all the different folks
with different strokes
to move the world
look at me right there
body and mind
sports commentating
Boozer got some type of
perm in his beard
or some shit
that you hating
what else is really important
what were we just now
talking about
something good
not really
our guy
who's not really our guy
we just like to say his name xxx ton tassione oh
come on they're getting him the fuck out of it i didn't i didn't get fired from complex too
podcast and talk about i was trying to make you feel better and more
no in your element no that's definitely your element no it's not see and that's the other
thing hey tomorrow's point this is how you knew i was getting fired too just because what am i
staying in the fucking complex to talk about this kid like honestly at no point did they ever say you know what let's throw a topic
out there Joe wants to talk about anyway now I'm sounding bitter so they brought
knife wonder just to shut you up I love knife wonder that's my guy shut up shut
out the knife oh let me tell you people air horn hold up rope yeah what the fuck the computer knows i got fired what i'll say is this oh tony hey tony all the complex people hit me uh uh what were you just
saying uh something important ninth was the last thing oh rory's trying to rory rory made me call
up good old just blaze yes i did good good old old Just Blaze, who Rory and Just Blaze begged me in a Coney Island parking lot to perform Pump It Up at Hennypalooza while Just Blaze is DJing.
Know what I told Just Blaze?
Fuck you.
No way.
I'm not doing a fucking thing.
And if I do it, I want a favor back.
And I'm never getting a favor back he said nah i
got you my nigga he put that beat on i went up there performed it and god damn it i'm still
looking for just but just is very busy and i love just so rory made me call just blaze man he's
trying to get one of these glory freestyles out of me but the button version not the jay-z
wait let's play glory with do i have glory i don't think I have it. You can YouTube it. I'm not YouTubing Glory.
Why don't I have this song?
I mean, who has that?
I was hating on it.
I was hating on it.
I was hating on it when it came out.
Glory is a YouTube song.
I was like, really, nigga?
You're going to rap about your fucking new child?
And now I want to do it.
Way to go, Rory.
Not this type.
We would need an angry Joe Budger.
Turn this up a little bit, man.
Let me see what we're talking about.
Is that blue?
Yes.
Blue looks perfect.
Aw.
All right, well, I want to hear the whole thing, Rory.
Get your shit out of here.
This was your request.
I didn't want to hear this shit.
I didn't have a kid. I'm reminding the people that you claim. I want to hear the whole thing. Get the shit out of here. This was your request. I didn't want to hear this shit. I didn't have a kid.
I'm reminding the people that you claim.
I wanted to remind them.
That's not funny.
I wanted to remind the people what this song was in case they were unfamiliar with fucking
B-side Hov.
Glory is hard.
In the event that Just Blaze could send over something soulful to make me love my family
even more than I already do.
Just said it.
He said it.
On the phone he said, I got something for you.
I'm going to try and do it, man.
Listen.
So blow up both dimensions.
No, no, no.
This is where you fucking white hipsters get it wrong.
Hey, listeners, leave Just Blaze alone.
Leave him alone.
I'm sharing privileged information with y'all.
If y'all go hit him 20 million times, guess what won't happen?
This.
It's going to happen, by the way.
Yeah, let me tell you what's going to happen.
I will never hear from Just again.
Leave that nigga alone, man.
Jesus, niggas are busy.
Anyway, what else is really important?
Oh, Chinks, Chinks, Chinks, rest in peace.
Rest in peace, Chinks.
Chinks and his family and his loved ones finally got some closure.
That was big.
We hope.
We hope.
For now.
Yeah.
For now, right?
For now.
I mean, shit.
If you watch Lisa Evers, she's pretty much giving up all the information.
I want to say more will be revealed.
Before we get into the serious topic, I do want to talk about reporters.
And I love Lisa is a legend in New York City.
Love you, Lisa.
I love when reporters.
That symbolizes love.
I love when reporters stand outside the fucking precinct and when the person's getting brought in.
Why did you do it?
Tell us why you did it.
No, come on.
Come on.
Tell us. Why did you shoot him like lisa lisa every reporter there the young man is not
gonna stop oh well now that the camera's here let me tell you let me admit to this whole thing
lisa finally somebody took the time to demise the version of things it's like what what did
she think is about to occur why the two cops Are escorting him And also Why was Lisa Evers
The only person there
Also why I love Lisa
Cause Lisa typically
Is the last person
To care about
Things that we care about
I don't think she was
The only reporter there
I think she was the only one
She looked like she was
The only one
I don't think she was
The only one there
Cause there was a couple
Videos that came out
And it was definitely
Like other voices
But Lisa's great
Cause Lisa cares about
The things we care about
When other people don't.
She has mad voices.
Yeah.
She was trying to fool them.
Yo.
She came back when they broke up.
I don't know what that girl was talking about, but why'd you do it?
That's hard.
So listen, these two gentlemen were apparently already locked up.
So boy, were they on a crime spree.
You think you would kill somebody and chill.
But no.
I know that's horrible.
This is crazy.
Yo, if you could tell him, Rory, hold up, man.
No, no, no, Rory, I'm not. The only issue is we be outside.
You don't be outside.
We have to answer to these things.
It's debatable that y'all be outside as much as y'all say.
Because on all Maul's little Insta lives, he ain't outside.
I never record anything outside.
I don't.
I'd be mad, please.
Knock on wood.
Because I don't want to put things in the world.
But dying on live has to be the worst way to go out.
I need a drop for every time Maul tries to be mysterious.
I never do any recording.
I don't.
I never been outside before.
No, I'm always outside.
I just don't record.
I've never been outside before.
Whatever y'all doing, Maul ain't doing that shit.
I never breathe.
Right.
I never breathe.
I don't.
When you breathe, my nigga.
All right, come on, man.
What the hell are we talking about?
Oh, chinks.
Chinks, chinks, chinks.
All right, we can't ask Lisa how she found these gentlemen,
but I mean, shit, she found them.
Well, the cops did.
Lisa heard about it.
So the story is, for anybody that missed the Lisa Evers special,
is apparently one of the gentlemen was an up- coming emcee and he hated on chinks.
That's all we got.
And they were performing at the same venue.
And the gentleman, they said, followed chinks for three weeks, waiting for the right time to do anything.
Said it was some old jail beef they had, I think.
Yeah, I heard that, too.
Now, I take all of this stuff with a grain of salt because when the how old could it wasn't the kid 26 he was like
my age chinks was in jail i was wasn't of age to be in jail well it was two guys that were arrested
okay i thought they were both around 26 27 i mean they might be i don't know no one was one was
older okay one was 26 one was 33
that would make more sense chinks is how old somewhere around probably in the 30s yeah yeah
early 30s that sounds about about right um i'm just glad that that that this is over you know
too many times we we have lost somebody in hip-hop and we never get any gun we never get closure so
so the fact that you know i want to commend
lisa evers i want to commend everybody who really stuck with this case when it could have easily
been forgotten about because that's what they like to do to us young successful black people
ever since i talked to puff i'm just been sounding like black excellence my nigga i ain't gonna lie
y'all i feel like black excellence you want to think it was i think i think it was that ig story
that you did when you was like,
I'm awake.
I have the same 24 hours that you.
Just one meeting done
next to the next one.
Yo, let's go.
I think maybe he saw that
and then realized
that maybe you was of the cloth
of the Ciroc boys.
I have never said.
What if you get to Miami
and Puff just wants you
to be a Ciroc boy?
It's lit.
Which Ciroc?
Which Ciroc? That's important, bro. Because if it's French vanilla, Ciroc. Ciroc melon Which Ciroc?
That's important, bro
Ciroc
French vanilla Ciroc
Ciroc melon
I'm not gonna get in every picture with French and puff
Nah, he gonna make you your own Newport flavor Ciroc
Menthol Ciroc
Menthol Ciroc
For when you can't get a smoke
And life's a joke
When you're
When you're in the complex office
And they won't let you smoke in the bathroom,
you can take a sip of menthol
Ciroc.
When you're in complex, but it's pretty complex,
have you some
menthol Ciroc.
Every day should be a struggle.
Drink menthol Ciroc.
Wait.
Every day shouldn't be a struggle.
Yo, you should write jingles.
I should write jingles.
Yeah, you should be like a cool jingle guy.
Have you seen the Ciroc commercials when they all in tuxedos in Vegas going to all the cool spots with all the bad bitches?
It's going to be Joe and a bunch of people in Ferox going to fucking Dunkin' Donuts, getting coffee, pouring it into their...
Coffee-flavored Ciroc might be lit.
It's going to be me and the owner, Melody, dancing in Melody.
Hookah flavored Ciroc.
Oh, my God.
Hold up now.
That might be.
Yo, now Rory better than everybody.
Many a nights, Rory was saying pass the hookah.
He was just smoking hookah last week.
Exactly.
Look at this nigga now.
You hear him?
I still smoke hookah.
I'm not drinking hookah flavored Ciroc.
How do you know? Because I know. I don't drink Ciroc, period. Hey, I thought I wasn't hookah. I'm not drinking hookah-flavored Ciroc. How do you know?
Because I know.
I don't drink Ciroc, period.
Hey, I thought I wasn't getting fired.
There you go.
Listen, bro.
Me neither.
Hey, one day is safe for you.
Next day, you never know, my G.
So yeah, they caught Trinx's murderers.
I'm really happy about that.
Round of applause.
Do y'all want to get into this net nutrition?
I'm still trying to figure this shit out.
That sounded like you was trying to do your own Nugia button drop.
I got a lot of beefs on Twitter when I asked about what it was.
Because white people are supposed to know what it is.
Basically, I mean, I read up on it a little bit.
But I mean, from what I read, it's been around for years.
It just wasn't a big thing that we spoke about.
And it's just basically saying for certain services with Wi-Fi, we might just be charged more to receive faster Wi-Fi.
Oh, yeah.
So they fucking with the creators again.
Yeah.
Like that.
So that's all basically like from what I read.
I could be wrong, but that's what I took from it.
Like you're going to they're going to charge services for faster Wi-Fi to companies like Verizon
and all those other things. They're taking equality away from
the internet.
Potentially. I personally don't
think it's going to make
that much of a difference because all these companies
make too much money off the shit that's happening on
the internet. Even if they aren't making money, like Twitter
for instance, or Facebook, they're not about
to start charging for Facebook or Twitter.
People make too much money off that, corporations included.
So it may make
some changes. I don't think
it's really ultimately going to affect the industry.
I think Twitter has been trying to find a way
to make more money.
I think this is another thing that's just going to affect bigger
corporations more than it's going to affect us,
which is why the corporations are beefing about it.
I don't think it's going to really affect us.
I was asking Rory the other day.
Netflix tweeted that they stand with the creators
and they're against this.
And I get that.
But Netflix and Amazon and these companies
would stand to make more money if what?
If it went through or if it did not go through?
If it did not go through, I think.
I think what it changes is that they could potentially
charge like Verizon or whoever
could charge Netflix more because
they use more bandwidth
than say
Wikipedia
because it's media it's bigger file sizes
more bandwidth
whereas before they had to charge everybody the same so all the sites we like then they're going to charge that you use. Bigger file sizes. Yeah. More bandwidth. Whereas before,
they had to charge
everybody the same.
So all the sites we like,
then,
they're going to charge us
and tax us for.
Potentially.
Pretty much, yeah.
And they're going to slow down
your fucking Wi-Fi lane
the same way.
So like,
your Wi-Fi package
might be
trash.
More like $4 more a month.
Why should it be going up
about $5 a year,
$10 a year,
every year?
But a lot of these stories
I'm seeing people like,
they're trying to cut us off
from the world
and they don't want us
to speak to each other.
Shut the fuck up.
That's not what's happening.
Yeah, word.
I don't want to speak
to niggas anyway.
But let me tell you something.
Listen, AT&T is the same
fucking group of scumbuckets
that said,
well, if you have your contract
with us for a certain amount of time,
you will be grandfathered in and you will have unlimited data and streaming for the rest of your life.
And then they slowed everything in your phone down without telling you and then they just had to sue them.
So what I'm saying is I do believe that data streaming, all this shit I've been saying for a while now, they're trying to figure this shit out.
Same way they've been trying to figure out weed.
while now they're trying to figure this shit out yeah same way they've been trying to figure out weed right uh and and i know for some of you that has no correlation at all to me it does
to me it does boy i'm scared of the world that i'm leaving to my children
you dig up jesus listen man the aliens are coming so it don't really matter tell me more about that
because every time i've ever mentioned the aliens coming on this show mall says and and you say something crazy now i'm looking at some
beautiful hd picture of a fucking flying sorceress look like i robot is a sorceress yes i don't know
i don't know i don't know bro what is that uh the former head of secret ufo hunting program thinks that aliens are real which is a
wild headline former head of secret ufo hunting program thinks aliens are real i would hope so
no that's that's what i like that's a wild head why were you hunting them if they didn't exist
well we all know aliens exist right come on a lot of people don't think aliens
but all right what would the former head of the Pentagon's
secret $22 million
UFO hunting program says aliens
may have already visited the Earth.
My personal belief is that
there is very compelling evidence that we may
not be alone.
Alright, so who wins? The aliens or the robots
in the future when we all go?
Aliens. Because that's who's going to probably have to fight.
Because they have the magnets.
Okay, Parks has been abducted before, obviously.
He has information that he is not willing to share at this moment.
Once the aliens pull out the magnets, the robots are done.
Once the aliens pull out the magnets.
Let's get deep.
What type of magnets do you have, bro?
Big magnets.
Hey, they don't appreciate
that joke
they stupid
that's funny
I'm telling you
the aliens are gonna
pull out the magnets
and then the
fucking party's over
wait hold on
so when we were
talking about us
versus the robots
why we didn't
come up with magnets
I did
it went under the radar
yeah Pars did
but y'all was busy
trying to kick him
off the podcast
right
I'm trying to save
the world and y'all wanna get rid of his but y'all was busy trying to kick him off the podcast. Right. I'm trying to save the world.
And y'all want to get rid of his mic.
Y'all are complex.
God damn it.
Me and Parks are trying to save the fucking world over here, and you guys are hating.
My money is probably on the aliens as well, depending on what alien it is.
If it's the Stranger Things alien, the robots are going to stomp the shit out of that little 11 girl.
Sorry.
Listen, we've been fake
we've been fake going to the moon if the aliens come all the way here they're definitely gonna
be doper than us and smarter than us and have cooler shit than us we're all doomed if you could
pick the year you were born and don't use this to fucking show off your white privilege but yeah
but this could go really weird for me no i mean even in the future not really more so
the past i guess if you could pick a year in the future what year what year would you i'm gonna go
with i'm gonna start with the past because they're already trying to get rid of the internet and i'm
cool i don't want to be around when the internet's not around uh now steve jobs is rolling around his
grave get rid of the internet i would have liked to be around for the jesus era would have been
curious i might have been in the bible if I would have been like, hey, stop.
Like, he's kind of dope.
He's going to do all this great shit.
I would have tried to go then.
Like, the day he was getting walked to the crucifix.
I would have been like St. Rory later on.
All right.
And y'all would have prayed to me.
Because he'd be like, that's the guy that stopped Jesus from doing all that shit.
I will never ask Rory another question like this again.
Ever.
Ever again.
Let me ask one of my black friends.
Ma.
You.
Me what?
What year would you go to
if you could somehow preserve life?
That wasn't your initial question,
by the way.
You just said what period of time
you'd want to go to.
And then you answered
with some stupid shit
and then I said I was thinking the future and then you went to the past still because
you fucking got kicked off the track team you don't understand what i'm saying
what year would i go to if i had to preserve life like if you could go somewhere and in my brain i
still think this is a possibility that we could go and freeze ourselves and then on be unthawed
at a certain point and be fine why can't we do that i saw austin actually
cold that was a funny joke that was funny it was cold yes but i'm
i need more than that i need more than that we would die i don't think they have a way of
being able to keep your organs and your brain and your heart once they freeze your body
like that's confusing your brain
would stop because no blood is flowing through it because your body is good once your brain stops
that's it everything should stop i think they should figure out a way to turn everything back
on though yeah but that's once the brain i don't know that they haven't figured out a way to turn
everything back on i'm pretty sure they're studying the brain
to do that, but...
They just found some shit
that was mad old.
I don't remember what it is,
but they found something.
I really got to start
doing my own research on this.
Yo, they just found something
that was old.
It was a conspiracy theory podcast.
I mean, to preserve life,
you would have to, I think,
go to the past.
No, because everybody
that's offering us a bag
for this podcast
says that I can't start
another podcast.
Yo, I don't understand
how people are making
a fucking way
in corporate America.
Yeah, it's crazy.
I've been trying to get
good business done.
Everybody's giving me
a hard time.
Just get out of my way.
Give me a fucking
Rockefeller chain.
Wait, so you would want
to go to the future
if you could go to any time?
Well, tell me how you'd
preserve life in the future.
No, preserve life today
to maybe pop up in the future is what I
meant to say. I would want to pop up
in the future. If I had to pick
a date in the past, I discussed this
with Sin. She would definitely pop up in Woodstock.
She is so mad that she was not at Woodstock.
Anytime a song from then,
an outfit from then,
a drug from then. I from then a drug from then
I mean the 70s
oh my god
what time was that
60s 70s
I mean all of that
still exists though
Jimmy don't
Coachella's kind of
the Coachella kind of
no no
Romuald
well no
it's different because of
laws and shit was
free and shit like that
back then
everybody was more
you know what I mean
open with what they were doing
and shit like that but I mean for the most part it's it's typically the same shit though you
want to hear trevor and girls do dress like the 70s now women wear a lot of fashion from the 70s
and 80s now well today is not woodstock i mean is popping pills doing acid all types of
shit like it is but they're not sitting on the grass doing it.
Well, at Coachella they are.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
I see it every year when pictures pop up from Coachella.
Chicks is looking like they trying to go back to the 60s and the 70s.
I laugh at it because I see what they're trying to do.
But it's like, this is a different time.
Have you ever fucked a girl from Coachella?
From Coachella?
No, I've never been to Coachella.
Okay.
I don't think I've been to Coachella either.
I didn't know Coachella was such a big thing never been to Coachella. Okay. I don't think I've been to Coachella either.
I didn't know Coachella was such a big thing until Frank Ocean told us.
Yeah, right?
Neither did the people that's going.
Yo, that's why I hate these motherfuckers.
And by the way, when he said that, I was like, word?
Hov performed there?
Like, where was I when Hov was there?
Yeah, like, people didn't know about Coachella until Frank Ocean said it.
What do y'all think about- But they can't fuck at Coachella the way they did at Woodstock.
That's what I'm saying.
There's wild STDs now.
Back then were more free. I think the STDs now. They were more free.
I think the STDs were wilder back then.
They had...
No, no, no.
Them shits didn't exist.
Yo, wait a minute.
What?
There's a lot of...
STDs popped up like the 80s.
There's no crabs, man.
We don't have crabs anymore, do we?
No.
We don't have crabs anymore.
No, but it's more...
It's definitely crabs around.
It's more severe STDs now
than it was back then.
Yeah, I'm saying
these shits is
antibiotic resistance.
Yeah, anything you caught
sexually back then
you could get a shot
and now they got shit
that they just gonna be like
listen man,
this is your ticket out.
This is gonna take you
up out of here, bro.
Sorry.
You just got gonorrhea
for life, man.
Hopefully they can
freeze your body
and put you out
in the future.
Yeah, and then you're
going down with that
gonorrhea in the future.
I'm not dying from no STD. That's trash.
Sorry. Sorry, God.
Sorry, bro. I'll beat this one out.
I would be so tight.
Oh, shh. No, no.
We did that.
If there's something really big that happened, pause.
Em's album happened.
What do y'all think about the
sales of Em's album Evan what do y'all think about the sales of M's album
they projected
at 250 to 300
something like that
yeah
that's pretty low for him
it's somewhere around there
I'm surprised
they're that high
he's projected
at
250
260
SPS
180
190k
album
so
streams 250 actual album sales 180 so does that mean 260 SPS, 180, 190 K album. So streams to 50,
uh,
actual album sales,
one 80.
So does that mean you add them together?
I think you add us together.
You add them together.
So that's like a half mil,
right?
Close.
No,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
wait,
no,
no,
you don't add them together.
It's saying he's doing that.
And the other number is the albums.
Okay.
I got you.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
So he sold 50%
of his number
why are you surprised
that it did that much more
let me hear it from you
I mean I know how you
felt about the project
but
give me some type of
analysis
I didn't
I was
I'm shocked to see that
in this climate
musically
that people still
support
Eminem because I don't
think that he makes music for this climate and what people are listening to
now what people want to hear now and you know you we're where our own program
directors now you know I mean like we you know we listen to whatever we want
to listen to we plug it into our cars and to you know the crib we got Bluetooth in the house whatever like you know me we don't listen to whatever we want to listen to. We plug it into our cars, into, you know, the crib.
We got Bluetooth in the house, whatever.
Like, you know what I mean?
We don't listen to radio anymore.
And I don't think Em is making music that people would want to play in their house or in their car.
I even think down to...
Not that many people.
I'm sure people, you know, people have been tweeting me they love the album.
They thought I was crazy for saying it wasn't a good album
Which you know
Music is subjective
And it's you know
It's your opinion
But
I don't think that
Eminent
I mean I'm just
I'm kind of confused
And I'm going to stop saying
I want to stop saying
Music is trash
When artists make music
That I don't like
I want to start saying
It's just not for me
Oh that's what I used to do
It's a nicer
Before I got fired
Yeah
No but honestly
because some people some people really like the music so i can't just say it's trash like it's
just not for me i don't see how people are listening to this eminem album and liking it
it doesn't sound that was the nicest way to say it's trash no you body that no because when you
when you think about everything that's going on and you listen into the music now and artists that are creating music and Eminem just came in.
I don't understand.
He came in.
And you grow and you change.
But you come in the game hating pop music and pop acts.
But then the last three or four albums, your main records are with pop artists.
Right?
Then you're one of the greatest rappers ever, but you don't typically make rap music.
Like, why isn't Eminem making rap music?
Why isn't he on a Primo track?
Why isn't he on a Just Blaze track?
Why isn't he on a, you know, these real hip hop producers?
But that don't mean it's not rap music, though, right?
No. Not that it's not rap, but it's right? I'm not... No, but it was...
Not that it's not rap, but it's more like pop rap.
Remember when we looked at the track list?
It's more like rock rap.
I said Em is kind of in the point where he's able to do that, where he could go get with
Redman and the people that we all know he actually likes, except he's doing Ed Sheeran
records instead.
Yeah, like I just don't...
I don't get it, you know what I mean?
And it's not saying it it's not, you know,
the worst music I've ever heard.
It's not that.
There's a couple records on there
that are cool.
I just wanted to hear
Em actually make hip hop
and make rap.
Me too.
This rock rap
with electric guitars
on every,
I just can't get in.
That shit is too loud.
I just don't want to hear that.
I've been waiting
for that jam.
Yeah, I don't know where
I would ever even play
that music at.
No, Sample and I
Love Rock and Roll was insane.
Rory took the words out of my mouth.
That was insane.
Somebody should have let him know that the I Love Rock and Roll sample has been buried,
and it's over in hip-hop.
Yeah, like if I wanted to hear that, I would just buy a Kid Rock album.
Like, I don't want to hear that from Eminem.
I don't, you know what I mean?
Buy a Run DMC album.
Kid Rock can't go like him no
no he can't rap like no but i'm just saying if i want that the music the sound type of
yeah like if i wanted that you know i mean when i hear eminem i want to hear him get off on
some real hip-hop but i think that's em's way of paying homage and and i say that to say like
like pump it up for me i got clout for pump it up and it was the biggest song
of my career so they kill me for it but when i first got that beat boy i thought it was hip-hop
like i was on some hip-hop shit scenario scenario but because of how it performed it's seen as a
joke so i'm just trying to see if i can make that correlation with m because we know Em loves the Beastie Boys, right? Yeah.
For him, and the Beastie Boys hip hop.
But today, I don't know.
That's what I'm saying.
It's just the music.
I don't know. I don't think Eminem has ever made the album he wants to make.
Give me more than that.
Why you say that?
I think when he got with Dre, he was at a point,
and granted, Marshall Mathers LP
classic
Slim Shady LP
be personally classic
but not everyone say that
I think those albums
he did
he was with Dre
he was gonna follow Dre's lead
I think he likes that music
that music is amazing
but M has never given us that
we know he's the biggest
hip hop nerd in the world
M has never made
a hip hop album
and to me
this point
the same way I said
with J444
he could finally do
that vulnerable shit as an adult that he's always wanted to do that he did on that album M I thought me this point the same way i said with j444 he could finally do that vulnerable
shit as an adult that he's always wanted to do that he did on that album m i thought at this
point could make that album that he's always wanted to make as a rap kid since he was 12
i don't think that's fair i think with with infinite when he was rapping like az he was
having more fun than he ever had before i i think it's hard to say he hasn't made the album he wants
to make because he's,
especially the in-between one was Encore
and the other one.
The Eminem show.
Yeah,
he made all the music himself,
I believe.
He produced it.
Oh, no, no,
but he was in,
he had to deliver
to a whole new audience now.
He was still at the height
of his career
where he had to deliver
to the pop world.
I'm pretty sure.
He didn't have to do this
on this album.
I'm pretty sure
Em's doing what he wants to do.
I think, yeah,
he's definitely making the music he wants to make. I don't think Em's doing what he wants to do I think yeah He's definitely making
The music he wants to make
I don't think so
But I think that
I think he said in the Beyonce
In that Beyonce song
I think he was saying
I don't want to do this shit
Yeah but I feel like
Eminem is so big of an artist
If he doesn't want to do something
He's not doing it
I disagree
With my point being that
Beyonce song
Eminem doesn't have to
Even put out music
If he doesn't want to
Eminem don't have to do
A fucking thing
Of course
Let's be all the way clear here But he made an album So I he made an album to make a music yeah but if he goes in the studio
and makes a record that's not fair it's because he wanted to make that record i just think that
m's ear is not with you know he's not listening closely and paying attention to what's going on
right now with music with the current sound and i'm not saying you gotta change and adjust to the sound but you gotta kind of sort of cater to where people's ears are right now yeah i don't i don't even
necessarily agree with that because there's plenty of successful people that are still doing
sound do you think older sound or whatever it may be i i haven't even heard the album because i don't
want to uh it doesn't cater to a superhero you know what i'm saying it doesn't't cater to a... He's like a superhero. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't really cater to anything.
I don't want to have a different view of a superhero.
Yeah, but the way I feel about this M. Al...
Do you think Hov went for what people in 2017 want to hear?
Exactly.
Because I don't think he did.
No, but Hov is just that great.
The music was still...
It was good.
Audible.
It was still something that you would want to hear and listen to.
Just the music.
Well, I think the greats don't have to listen to what's going on.
I think they can just create in their own space and it be the narrative.
Like, Kendrick does not.
I mean, damn, he did a tiny, tiny bit.
But Kendrick don't sit and listen to what is going on.
No, but the music.
Kendrick makes the sound.
But the music is still current.
It's still like, you know, what people are listening to.
Of course.
That Love Me record is like.
But Kendrick's also 30 and Em is 45.
Wait, how do I know Kendrick doesn't listen to the other new music?
No, he does.
No, no, of course he does.
I think on Damn he definitely showed that he was making music.
I'm saying he doesn't sit and listen to...
When Pimp to Butterfly came out, he didn't listen to what Future was doing and go,
well, I guess this is what the kids like, so I'm going to go do this.
No, yeah, no, that's not...
But what I'm saying is the music...
He made his own palette.
He's making...
Kendrick is blending genres.
He's making jazz with gospel, hip-hop.
He's blending music.
Shout out to Terrace Moore.
To me, Em just sounds like he's just in a garage with his boys that he has a band and they're just making music.
And it's like he's just rapping over that.
And it's like, I get it.
To some people might love it.
But me personally, I don't want to hear that from him.
Let me tell you what I thought.
I thought that, and this is why, you know, I'm never mad at anything that happened with Slaughterhouse.
Because for me, as someone who truly loves Royce and Em, I'm talking about as a fan.
And I love them as humans.
Royce is family to me.
Royce's family to me but for someone who is such huge fans of them both the slaughterhouse deal I was made whole from the fact that M and Royce were made whole through that deal let me say that
that's that's really important that's one two for me right I thought that that relationship would have really helped him a lot at that specific time.
Eminem has been Eminem his entire life and career. so long and you pay no mind to uh not pay no mind but you don't actually attempt to grow it or do
some things differently you reap you reap the you reap what you sow here royce is very in tune
with thing and i'm not saying that m is not because i'm unaware but Royce is very in tune with things artistically musically with production
with pockets he's just very in tune with with what's current and I think M was kind of banking
on uh again I don't know Eminem personally but this is just my point of view I think that that
whole freestyle at the cypher shit going at Trump,
I think that was a marketing plan.
I think we got that.
I think he was banking on Trump responding.
I think he was banking on getting into a back and forth with him.
You know what I mean?
And when it didn't happen,
it was kind of like the music was already recorded.
So it's like, well, this is what I got.
And to that point, and back to the album sales,
I think Em doesn't rely on a single
but he does rely on holy shit evan m's making music all the way down to the most recent with
love the way you lie with rihanna like you walked in every department store and heard that
m didn't have that disco room i don't know he thought he did with the beyonce record
yeah he did he did he did he did i'm saying he didn't have that this time so he kind of falls
back and i think a lot of the people that were buying those tens of millions of records 10 years
ago grew up and i don't think they live on the internet i think that's what i'm saying they don't
want to hear that they even know that i mean of course they know m came out but they're not rushing
the way they used to because it's not an m takeover you don't hear eminem everywhere anymore
you know what else was disturbing to me the same thing i'm saying about royce i thought that when kendrick started to
dominate that something different would happen you know what i mean yeah being in house and i mean
let's look at dre dre who i think is one of the most brilliant minds we've ever seen in music
you know i don't think we You know, I don't think,
we've said before,
I don't think it's a mistake that you go from fucking NWA
to Snoop
to fucking...
Your own shit.
To you.
I don't even name Dre
when I think of all the people that Dre...
You.
The chronic.
Snoop, you, the whole West Coast, M, 50, and then Kendrick.
I mean, in no order, but what I'm saying is I thought that it would be the relay race past the baton,
kind of let's get this going now, too.
Let's use this team to help this team.
Each one, teach one is what I thought.
And, you know, Kendrick just skyrocketed to a different level.
And it was just different.
I don't know.
I'm speculating here, of course.
All we do is speculate.
I also think Dre saw the great people around Kendrick.
It wasn't like he was like, all right, well, I need to keep this kid right under my arm or this could get fucked up.
Like he had a really good team that knew exactly what they wanted to do with this kid.
Let me provide some great music.
In the meantime, if y'all need some guidance, let me know.
I don't think Kendrick was in need the way maybe Snoop was in need.
Just being some kid by himself, we share a stepbrother as a friend introduced me to Dre all right teach
me how to actually make choruses all that I think Kendrick had a really good support system around
so I don't know Dre was as needed at that time I think that the eminent we're witnessing now
was when we saw Mike at the tail end of his career Kobe Kobe at the tail end. He has flashes here and there,
you know,
where it's like,
okay,
but.
I thought you were talking about Michael Jackson.
No.
But even.
Michael Jordan.
It's kind of like,
I don't want to see him,
you know,
continue to put this type of music out.
And it's for that reason you just named it.
I have,
I have yet to listen to this album.
Yeah.
I tried to listen to it leaving the hospital with Rory,
with Rory. I was trying to listen to M's album hospital with rory with rory i was trying to
listen to m's album and gz's album and rory just hated on everything i did not i have to hear him
right now do i have to hear right now you're having a baby you're having a baby right now
we're listening to gz i feel like listening to gz no m was on first oh well i remember that part
because i what i will say while i haven't heard the album I heard that Believe record
and I felt good
what was the other record
he had some creative ideas on there
that made me feel really good
about how he creates
and his brain
you know what I mean
we spoke about one specific record
if you still have
the Rory and Maul have substance
I don't
hopefully I'm fresh that will never be there again there was a really interesting song on you can sing if you still have the Rory and Maul have substance. Hopefully I was trash.
That will never be there again.
There was a really
interesting song on
you can sing
Say What You Will
about the music.
Maul wasn't talking
so that's when
I just cut it in half.
There's a record called
Bad Husband
which is kind of
M's 444.
Wait, New Worry
is super trash. I know, that's the
best part.
I cannot wait till my cousin is sneaky.
I can't wait till you have a kid.
There's a record on there called
Bad Husband, which I thought was an interesting concept
that probably hasn't been put into hip-hop
where we all praise ourselves
for being very, very good fathers
but never good husbands
and while we always say like all right
well even though it didn't work out with that chick at least i'm a good father which tries to
erase all the shitty things we did with the woman that gave us that kid i thought that was a really
interesting interesting concept to do in hip-hop and it was a good song i mean it's it's a poppy
record but m kills it and it's it's a topic that i don't think hip-hop has ever talked about
conceptually and i think if hove would have done one of those which he kind of did with 444
but he went super deep and went wait m m the whole thing uh of course with the kim situation but it
was something that i think doesn't really get talked about i think conceptually m improved
that he's still there uh i think what it boils down to is do you want to hear this style of music
or not anymore um and i'm seeing mixed reviews i'm seeing i'm seeing mixed reactions some some
people are really loving the album uh some people are saying it's not for them i cannot give you a
review because like i said i was afraid i was afraid so I didn't do my due diligence I am gonna go listen to that album um I haven't listened to much new music yet right is there any what else other new
music without Jesus yeah geez I'm black job did y'all let's do it the Jesus shit yeah I like it
I like a couple records on there I don't like the entire project but I like a few records on there I
like more records on there than I thought I would.
I like it.
I do.
Oh, shit, yeah, Black Thought.
Black Thought.
That's the other thing about it. That's the best album of the year.
That is...
I mean, yo,
if you were to break it down
timestamp-wise,
add in breaks between songs and hooks,
that might have been an album.
I have listened to that
Black Thought freestyle
at least 90 times
in its entirety.
Let me say that.
And I'm going to listen to it more.
I'm going to hear more.
That's the other thing
that made me really upset
about being fired.
They had Ack and Who Kid
break down the Black Thought Freestyle.
If that don't tell you
that Verizon is calling shots,
Verizon don't know
that we don't want to hear
Ack and Who kid break down the black
thought freestyler act knows that act if act oh my god i'm gonna bring it up the thing about that
black thought freestyle amazing no no don't do it listen amazing job no do it he don't that's what
do it i'm just it's just the the the reactions they didn't know more come on it's like
the kids didn't know who didn't know but they still don't know like i think that they they
heard that and they're like oh he killed that but they still don't know black thought like they don't
know the roots like so when i heard it i was like oh yeah i was more impressed by other things forget
what he was saying i was more impressed with his pronunciation, his breath control.
I can't speak 10 minutes straight.
Yeah, like the pocket that he was.
I was just like, dog.
He didn't start sweating till minute eight.
That's what I was.
Shit like that is impressive to me.
But what he was saying, I'm like, that's Black Thought.
But we can't just say that.
I don't think you're doing this
more, but I do think this is the problem with
hip-hop fans and the music we love.
It's expected. Yeah. Well, no, not that.
Every time some really dope shit
finally breaks out,
we go from complaining like, I wish
the world would fuck with this, fuck with this, and then
they start fucking with it. Oh, now y'all on this?
I think that's a problem as hip-hop fans
that we do. That's true. Rory's right. I feel like when we... Oh, now y'all on this right i think that's a problem as hip-hop that's true we do more uh rory's right like i feel like when we follow follow now y'all on it like isn't this what
you wanted no no no you want everyone that's definitely what what i would you know i would
want to hear when you hear freestyling but i'm just laughing at you know all of the people that's
going to social media i'm like that's black thought like who i would
have been upset if he didn't do that like to me that would have been like the the shit to tweet
about like but no all do praise and salute to what he did but it's like i was more impressed
when tori went up there and rapped the way he did because i didn't think tori lanes could do that
but there's a lot of these people that are unfamiliar with black thought and what he does
right so they didn't know i understand that i understand i'm just laughing at the the storm
that came after it like y'all didn't already know that black thought that's what he does like there's
a well known people people on my benches right now talking about well black black though i never
listened right so black thought had just freestyled recently at sway Method Man, and he bodied that, but it wasn't this.
This one, he made a very concentrated effort to let y'all know that we are not him.
We cannot do what he does.
And somehow making it look effortless.
Effortless.
No, like alien scary type effortless.
Yeah, aliens do exist. Yo, the hater in me, and I'm glad that y'all said that because following this next comment,
I want to get to the alien list.
But as I was watching that as an MC,
the competitive nature in me,
you want to try to hate on it a little bit.
So somewhere around minute six,
I felt like the flow got a little offbeat
for three bars, right?
Oh, shit.
Not the three bars.
Then he kept going, and it was so dope that I had to talk myself out of the hate.
You know when you just hate?
The hate is just unwarranted.
I mean, like, Joe, the nigga said 30 million words in two bars just now
and only lagged a half a millisecond and caught right back up in the beginning of the first.
Like I was analyzing it like homework, which led me to where do we rank Black Thought?
It's an unfair question.
Don't answer it.
Nobody answer it.
Nobody answer it.
The young people, Black Thought has classic albums.
The Roots, go do your fuck.
You should Google, damn it.
I don't know.
Black Thought has classic albums. He go do your fuck you just google damn it i don't know black
thorn has classic albums he has got recently recently not go back to the 90s recently he has
got uh hit singles yeah yeah multiple yeah and he raps better than all of us, and he took live instrumentation,
a live band,
and made them pop.
The best live band hip-hop has seen.
They're still here.
They're one of the best live bands we have seen, period.
Period.
They're still here going.
Questlove just tweeted the other day.
He was like, yo, the Atlanta airport is fucking wild.
And I was afraid,
because it seemed like it was some terrorism shit.
We got to protect
Black Thought
and Westlove.
For sure.
To piggyback off your point,
one of my friends
was one of those people
that was like,
I mean, I always heard
of Black Thought,
but I was never big on him.
Come on, Cam.
Come on, Low Key.
And they were saying,
it was like,
nah, I appreciated that freestyle.
I thought it was dope,
but I'm not the guy that just wants to hear all that rapping.
I said, the genius of Black Thought is if you listen to the roots, he dumbs it down sometimes.
He doesn't always do the super lyrical shit.
He's really good at doing melodic shit because he's with a live band.
He has to go off all that.
He can't just sit with a beat and rap.
He has to go off what the band is doing.
So Black Thought is much more of just that super lyrical genius in the sense that he can make records like really good records so let's get to what i call and this is a list that i don't
bring up or ever mention because it's you can't quantify you can't like it's tough it's tough
when y'all when y'all start talking about the
best rappers to ever live i'm aware that you mean in totality this is an alien list though
the alien list supersedes whatever criteria you need for you to make that other list because the alien list these people are doing things with
words that none of us can do black thought and and this is in no particular order i'm just giving you
the people and gentlemen that i believe to be true aliens i will start that with black thought alien he's on that list i'm also going to put let me put
the bigger names on this list i'm putting m on the alien list because he can do things with words we
can't i hate rap god but i mean i can't do it that's an alien that's that's that's an alien
type of record i was mad he put that record out but but it showcases his ability. Both Andre and Big Boi are on my alien list.
Both of them are there.
Interesting picks, but not mad at it.
Both of them are there.
Andre is absolutely alien.
I think Big Boi is an alien too, though.
I've always said it.
We just don't acknowledge it because Andre is an alien and unicorn.
That's what I've always said.
Big Boi does things with words that some other people, we just can't do.
Big Boi is a phenomenal rapper that happens to be in a group with a unicorn lupe is on my alien list and boy
is he high cool with that boy is he high uh los is also on my alien list not as well versed in
los but i'll take your word for it los cannot los can't i've heard him rap and he was it was
great when i heard it but i'm not well versed enough to say that he's alien the things he does
with words make him alien i'm not saying his artistry is so great los just put a mixtape
out though and it sounds pretty hard so uh y'all should check that out but los is on my alien list
right elza is on my alien list i'm mad at that fonte is on my alien list. Royce and Crook are on
my alien list along with
Pharoah Monch to lock this out.
I was waiting for Pharoah.
That is where I close my door.
I'm done with my aliens at that
list.
That's interesting.
Y'all won't
agree with me, but Mos
is on my alien list from rapping and singing at the same time.
He's an alien in just how he uses his inflections, his words.
Mos is an alien to me.
I'm not mad at that.
I'm not mad at that.
I wouldn't be mad at somebody calling Mos an alien.
I wouldn't be mad at anybody's alien list.
I just know that.
Because Mos will get all that Umi Se shit out the way in a second and then rap just as good as Pharoah.
Most deaf cannot rap as good as Pharoah Munch.
Ever.
Ever.
I want to be perfectly clear.
Ever.
Ever.
And that's not to knock most.
I think highly of most.
Pharoah Munch is better than everybody.
Probably except Black Thought. And he might is better than everybody probably except Black Thought
and he might be better
than Black Thought
if you have more time
no if we were to put
because I wouldn't put
most above Pharaoh
but if we were to actually
rank those
Black Thought and Pharaoh
would be one and one A
to me
in that alien category
yeah
there's not many people
that can rap like Pharaoh
sorry
Pharaoh's probably number one
on the alien list yeah 1a and 1b
him and black thorn i ain't gonna lie i ain't gonna be me that's honest that's honest i still
feel like i'll get them niggas a long day if i have enough time uh kendrick well half kendrick
uh impersonates an alien sometimes yeah he's a good impersonator i don't think he's you know
he's a great rapper that was just a joke I wouldn't put Kendrick on that alien list.
He raps like an alien.
Kendrick is great.
No, I'm just being a dick.
And Kendrick is better than Mad Niggas.
But the alien list, I mean, we don't hear Kendrick and Sarah.
He's doing something with words that we're unable to do.
Big pun.
Yeah.
Alien.
Alien.
Alien. Yeah. Alien. Yeah, 100 100 that's the end of my alien list list i would love to hear who y'all think are aliens and i know that's probably a weird question
in today's climate because i mean that's not really what we're going for but i like because
the aliens are coming i like the fact that aliens are coming i like the fact that black thought has
even introduced this i like the fact i like anytime this becomes a conversation again i agree i do
what i'll tell you one thing he inspired he did inspire me he did inspire me too and this before
i got fired before i got fired i thought that flex would be a pretty cool spot to go up there
and just let niggas know stop playing with me real quick but i thought i wouldn't have the time to be able to write something like that well look at
that mall nothing but time mall oh my bad we we got it we understand i have to take joe to you
have to do your appointments with unemployment to get the money so i gotta take him uh what's
your address all right yeah i gotta take you somewhere in that county so we can sit in the line.
It's fine.
I only take a few hours.
Yo, don't know the funny shit.
Rory's unemployment is way doper than mine.
I don't even receive unemployment.
I really got fucked in the ass, man.
Hold up, man.
Pause.
I got fired with a newborn baby with no unemployment, with all of my co-hosts working,
and it's my show that I made from my brain.
Look how life works.
Yo.
I'm sorry, man.
I can't let that rot.
That's craziness.
Life is wild.
That's a little wild.
That is the utmost disrespect.
That is more disrespectful
than you could fucking get.
Just don't ask us to borrow some money.
You fucked up the Migos whole marketing plan
with their record.
You don't even work there no more. Oh, yeah. The Migosos record dropped today i know y'all don't care because who cares wait it didn't drop no they teased it they've
been teasing it for six months listen what do you want me to do man i saw some clip uh there was
that rolling loud i mean i was 30 000 people screamed your name that was kind of i think they
said fuck joe budden i don't know and complex fires me
you could tell that's verizon what the hell i don't know if this is more like the dave ship
dave chappelle i think the verizon from all that money the verizon network and the commercials
was bigger than rolling loud so they went with that one yeah clearly yeah what's the verizon
tagline i wish i could remember it would have been a funnier joke i don't know because i think that
old verizon dude that used to have the 10 million niggas behind him, he went to Sprint now.
Sellout.
That's trash.
They went and get the bag.
They probably played him.
That nigga left his network.
He knew his worth.
Verizon is playing all of us.
They're playing all of us.
Hey, Kings, know your worth.
Never let them see you down.
They don't fire me me I just hired my chef
god damn
I was
fucking
I was hiring
man look at new Chris Brown
don't know what's going on
man
new employees around here
they just gotta go now
layoffs
over at the Joe Button Network
wait something else happened
musically was there any other new music to come out
nothing to think of save on roy and i had a conversation about that new black record over
that timbaland uh uh timbaland beat that i think is for a timbaland project but i'm not sure because
black has not texted me to tell me neither is justice so i don't know i think it's timbaland
featuring black that song is hard i don't give. I think it's Timbaland featuring Black.
That song is hard.
I don't give a fuck.
How do you lose a game like this?
The paces are great.
Look at this.
How do you lose a game like that?
Yeah, that's crazy.
Oh, you know what I will say?
What I will say is, and I hate to be this guy.
Well, shit, wait for Timbaland and Black, man.
Timbaland got busy.
It's nice to hear that Timbaland can... Did he go back to his old bag?
It was new Timbaland, but it was still a good pop Timbaland beat.
Yeah, I like it.
It was nice to hear that he could still easily make those.
It sounded effortless, too.
It didn't sound like he sat for six months trying to put that together.
Timbaland used to be an alien as far as the programming goes.
Yeah, and then them steroids.
I don't know why.
He still makes great music.
I just told you what just happened.
Shoulders got too heavy.
Timbaland popped up out the blue one day
just with shoulders
and fucking pecs.
That was the reason
Detox never came out.
No,
but see,
but that's why
I don't respect it from Timbaland.
Dre came out first
at the awards big
when they both was in their hiding hiatus
and now Timbaland want to bite the Dre swag
so they didn't do a beat battle they did a steroid battle
bench press battle
does Timbaland want to beat battle with Dre
no but Timbaland don't want to beat battle
with Swiss
Swiss is always with the shits
it was Timbaland
Timbaland on Instagram teasing all them beats that's going to lose
to Swiss
he got way harder beats and don't ever think I'm shitting on Timbaland. Timbaland on Instagram teasing all them beats that's going to lose to Swiss.
He got way harder beats.
And don't ever think I'm shitting on Timbaland because I'm not.
And Pharrell wins all of this.
Why are we talking about beat battles again?
Credit to Celtics or blame.
Y'all, I wanted to get into Melo for a little bit because what do you think about this, as our NBA insider?
They're struggling.
OKC's in trouble.
I know, but tell me why
Because you was big on them
Yeah
I don't know man
I don't know
What the problem
I think Russ is
You know he's
I can't blame Russ
Yes you can
Yes you can
Yes you can
Here's why I can't
Because
I can't ever blame somebody
That's still damn near
Averaging the triple-double
Shit
I mean you're doing everything The triple-double Ain't gonna win the game i mean listen you're doing everything
you're all over the fucking place you're being effective right but i just think that people
talking about mellow paul george hasn't really oh don't do that he hasn't played out of this world
he hasn't played paul george like indiana pacer basketball this is why you eventually have to
point to russell westbrook who i will not point at because I love Russell Westbrook.
He's one of my favorite players.
You should point to him.
I think you could win there.
But every player that was there that leaves there thrives somewhere else.
All of them.
I'm not just talking about Harden and Durant.
Reggie Jackson, Jeff Green.
I wouldn't say Reggie Jackson is thriving in Detroit.
He's been to one playoff series and hasn't won a game.
Thriving.
They're playing good this year, though.
He is playing well and has played well in that system since he left.
I mean, he is who he is.
I forgot.
More don't like Reggie Jackson.
No, not that I don't like him.
He can play.
But I don't think that he thrived after he left OKC.
I think he's the same player he was in OKC.
He was very good off the bench for OKC.
He's a scorer.
But he hasn't done anything.
He hasn't.
When you keep letting people go and they keep performing other places as Complex is about to learn, that falls on them.
Yeah, but again, I can't blame Russ.
I think that, you know, it's still – Mello is Mello.
He's a scorer.
He's not going to really do much defensively.
He's not going to average 10 rebounds a game.
Paul George is, you know, he seems to just be trying to find his way
within all of this.
Like he's so used to having the ball a lot more, and he doesn't with Russ.
And where that Paul George shit gets crazy is Oladipo is going ham.
I don't know what Brea Mounds is doing to him.
Yeah, but I mean...
Jesus, Mary, and Joseph,
Oladipo's not playing.
But that's what happens
when now a team tells you
it's your team.
Yo, behind every good man, man,
is a powerful woman, man.
Brea got that nigga pulling up
from half court.
Yo, see some of this shit he doing?
What's wrong with you?
Why we got to do that? Wait, with you? Why we got to do that?
Wait.
But wait.
Why we got to do that though?
We don't got to do that.
Paul,
I mean not Paul George.
Oladipo was on the Thunder
last year, right?
Right.
Was he doing all this?
But he couldn't
because it wasn't his team.
I'm asking you.
No, no, no.
He wasn't.
Was Brea at those games?
No.
But I think Paul, I think Oladipo would have been doing this with or without Brea.
Man, that nigga's in them cakes.
It gives you incentive to kind of go hard.
That nigga is in them cakes.
Pulling up from the other three-point line.
All net.
Yeah, because soon as, I mean, going back to when you was young,
when the bad chick walking in the gym, niggas definitely try to show up.
Come on, you know Ola Depot and their wowing.
First of all, Bri is in Indiana.
Yeah.
That's funny already.
Yeah.
I'm shutting up.
I'm about to get in trouble.
Anyway.
Hey, man.
Yo, we'll be knowing I'm about to get in trouble.
Rory, save us.
Oh, man.
Save us. Mace, speaking of people save us. Oh, man. Save us.
Mace, speaking of people that rap,
he did an eight-minute freestyle
and killed it.
Yeah, he did.
Yeah, he did.
Harlem Mall.
He did.
He didn't kill it?
I was surprised.
He tried to dismiss Black Thought.
No, I didn't dismiss Thought.
I just knew that
that's what he was going to do
whenever he decides to freestyle,
whenever he decides to rap.
I did not expect Mace to do that.
I'm going to be honest.
I didn't expect Mace to do that on that gonna be honest I didn't expect Mace to do that
He killed that Cosmic Kev shit
He definitely killed that
And I definitely
I mean I watched it and I was like
Dog
Mace hasn't rapped
At a radio station
In how many years
Let me ask the fucking obvious question man
Yes he killed it
Doesn't matter
Too often niggas is killing shit
And then we just say they killed
it and you will want see that's exactly why i stopped rapping you know how much time it take
to write one of the verses for y'all niggas to say yeah it was hard and now you're just going back
are y'all kidding me you know it's really wild i've honestly i've never thought about it that
way but no i'm gonna tell you what's funny i was no hold up boy go ahead i've never thought about
how the reason why i understand where joe is coming hold up boy go ahead i've never thought about how that was
the reason why i understand where joe is coming from right now because i i was just talking about
the conversation we had a while ago where you know back in the 90s and early 2000s
y'all niggas could tour the country with maybe three rhymes yeah mix it yeah like now when you
spit something on flex you can't go to LA Lakers and spit that.
You can't go to Cosmic Cabins because they heard that already.
Back in the 90s, niggas was traveling, doing the radio tours with three verses.
And it was probably the verse that was going to be on the album.
I'm talking about some classic rhymes that we deem classic hip hop freestyles at radio stations.
Them niggas spit them shits on albums.
They spit them shits at other radio stations.
So I kind of respect real writers
and rappers today a little more
because when y'all bust a clip now,
that's it.
Like, y'all write 60 bars now,
y'all can never spit that again.
You know what I'm saying?
So now I salute that even more.
Like, yo, that's because
in the late 90s
Early 2000s
Niggas was
The same three rhymes
And niggas
Demon
Couldn't wait to hit record
On the tape
And it's like
Dog he spit that shit
For a year and a half
That same verse
Now you right
Now it's like
Yo as soon as you spit that 60
Throw that in the garbage
You can't use that no more
Shit
Joe's funk freestyle
Was fucking
Three records on rage
That never made it Nah I wrote Some of it i wrote a little bit because i had to write on on the spot
yeah um but you know i was on rory's insta live the other day and he was playing hoes grammy
freestyle and between black thought and that freestyle i was really inspired to call parks
and come over here but i know parks don don't answer when I call him about rap.
But I started to think, like, that Grammy freestyle, you know, I showed it to Johnny and Michael Paul, a few niggas that weren't as familiar as us.
Easily one of the best freestyles ever.
I'm biased.
Easy.
To me, it's the best ever.
But I'm biased.
It's up there.
It's up there.
It's up there.
But, I mean, mean shit we need a
list with a few of those freestyles man like last decade when niggas was going up to the
whatever freestyle it was when hove told flex don't worry about the commercials
i don't understand i don't think y'all really know the level of stunt that don't worry about the commercials says.
When you say that to a radio station, as all your goons are cursing and drinking.
Right.
Now, why that whole one is the greatest, though, is because everything he said now look in 2018.
Happened, yes.
Yeah. To the T. he said and he did it y'all remember when flex said he was going to end jay's career
no i don't remember that no i do remember no i don't flex was fucking going crazy that night
y'all say that but i i salute flex flex is supposed to do that. I salute Flex. How does Flex flex if he don't do that with that whole text,
the whole that bullshit, the Drake beefing?
Like, I give it up to Flex, man.
Without Flex and his shit, Hyde going to have a long fucking time.
Y'all talk because I got to find him.
Especially when Angie left.
Like, Flex is doing what he got to do.
Pete doing what he got to do. This freestyle thing, Flex flex is not i mean of course flex has always done the freestyle shit
but in this era and grabbing people that are not popular and just showcasing people that could
really rap and this freestyle thing has been amazing it has been amazing and let me let me
just throw this i've been put on to people in new york that i was like oh shit i didn't know
this was let me throw this out there. I've been trying to start that very
same thing. I think more
of it needs to happen.
It's just great coming from Flex because
at least when I was a kid and when you were in your early
20s, that's what we sat by
the radio waiting to hear people rap
on Flex. That was part of the album
rollout. Freeway and Beans going
up there to rap. That's what we waited for.
Westside Gunn just tweeted he only watched that show for one reason joe but shout out to what's up shout out
to west side west side should have been on that fucking album uh but yeah let me not get into that
right now um i just think i've been i've been telling no hold on and flex let me fucking play
my uh skin flute here now that maul just told me about that tweet
i don't remember now so go ahead with flex
uh no i remember now what i'm saying is and i told complex this as well i said y'all don't think
it's like it's like y'all think it speaks volumes that i've been with y'all for all of this time.
Yet it takes all of these other people in all of these other buildings to fucking assess my value.
There's something wrong.
There's something wrong that every exec in every other BT, every every building.
If you do anything related to streaming streaming you've spoken to me this year
you kind of have had to
almost
I don't get it tell me more about
whatever you were saying Rory
oh we're talking about flex I mean that's
past I think your Green Lantern freestyle
is up there
yeah that was a dope freestyle
my Green Lantern
but it was only dope
was that a Sparta house freestyle?
No
No no
When they kept you in the green room
And you was mad
Oh
It was the last day
It was over the last day's beat
Yeah you was like
I ain't coming
I ain't coming to Polly
I ain't coming to
That's what you said though
And now that you say that
I want to bring back
An old topic slang
That should be back
I really liked Polly Polly was fine That was your word Wait Polly That's gone you said though And now that you say that I want to bring back An old topic slang That should be back I really liked Polly
Polly was fine
That was your word
Wait Polly
That's gone
Why did
Wait we can't Polly anymore
Polly is gone
Cause you niggas like you
Want to build and link
Yeah build
Build and link
Build
I said Polly instead
Build and link
Definitely killed Polly
Yeah these fucking Supreme
I feel like I said Polly
Last week on this podcast
Yeah well let's keep it
You say
Yeah but depending on
The company you keep You'll throw out the You'll say build link Polly last week on this podcast. Yeah, well, let's keep it. You say, yeah, but depending on the company you keep, you'll throw out the, you'll say
Build, Link, Polly Connect.
I'll say Link.
I've never said Build.
Me and the Rory Connect.
I shouldn't even keep talking.
Blow a fuse, you lose.
Half-assed crews get demolished and bruised.
Me and the Rory Connect.
That's funny.
That's very funny.
I'm all for this shit.
Y'all niggas did Christmas shopping?
Hell no.
Me either.
No.
All right.
All right, well, at least what are y'all doing for New Year's?
I'm not the, it's amateur night.
I don't like going out on New Year's.
These fucking complex fucks.
This was the first year I was going Christmas shopping.
All right, man.
I thought you was over it.
No, no, no, no, no.
Now I'm mad. Now I'm mad.
Now I'm mad.
Now I'm mad all over again.
This is the first year I was actually going to Christmas shop.
Because I don't buy gifts.
That's not what we're into on my family.
Not that I'm woke.
I mean, I don't know if I'm cheap or frugal.
But I just don't like crowds and people and shopping.
If we do Christmas shopping, we do it the day after Christmas.
Well, my family's just weird, right?
This year, because I was so grateful to God and I had the best year I've had, I was going to do somemas shopping we do it the day after christmas or well my family's just weird right this year because i was so grateful to god and i had the best year i've had i was gonna do some
christmas shopping which means i'm gonna buy my mom something my dad something uh my two kids
something and my wife something and that's the end i don't know now man complex is the grinch
that stole christmas listen to me The Complex that stole Christmas
How do you
I don't
I understand niggas now
Getting laid off around Christmas
I mean I got a couple dollars
But god damn it
I imagine it's rough
I mean
Oh actually
He isn't gonna remember anything
Oh no
He won't remember shit
Whatever
Christmas
We covered
Yeah New Year's What type yeah New Year's
what type of New Year's
people are y'all
low key but
you know get twisted
so everyday parks
is New Year's parks
basically yeah
it's a regular party
are you dressing up
nah
does it change
if you have a girlfriend
because girlfriends
like New Year's Eve
they want to dress up
wait what do girls
want to do on New Year's Eve
they want to dress up
be with their boyfriend
yeah put a dress on drink champagne Instagram wait time out and have sex They want to dress up. Wait, what do girls want to do on New Year's Eve? They want to dress up. Be with their boyfriend?
Yeah, put a dress on, drink champagne, Instagram.
Wait, time out, time out. And have sex after the ball drops.
You're going to be with your girl on New Year's Eve?
I'm not that whack.
More you?
Yeah, never mind.
Wait, wait, hold up, man.
I'm tired of that being.
It's true.
All right.
Well, who are you going to be on New Year's Eve?
I don't know what I'm doing on New Year's Eve.
My point.
I'm going to try to get away
from sending my child
having fun out here.
The point of the child
was so that she couldn't
have fun anymore.
Not me.
That's wild.
Send it all to work.
And now Joe like,
I need a break.
I need a break.
I need to go out.
Yeah, word.
Because she was hating
on my break.
You ain't carry a fucking child.
So I put it there
how she was gonna carry it
mad months ago
yeah let me shut up
cause I just wish
you'd get mad
if I say something
ignorant and stupid
and I'm not ignorant
and stupid
I think we've done
a good job
covering everything
I don't think
there's anything else
that we are forced
to care about
this week
we got into
all new music
I haven't watched
a TV show in ages
shout out to Kobe
Rory is not on Grindr.
Kobe's jersey was retired.
Why is Lonzo Ball winking at me right now?
What is this bullshit?
It's the legends of Showtime.
Lonzo Ball has a star on Hollywood.
I don't know what I'm watching right now.
The Lakers and Warriors are playing again Friday.
Oh, my fucking God.
I didn't see the Larry Nils my fucking God. I didn't see the
Lakers-Nails dunk either.
And I didn't see the
Steelers-Pittsburgh game.
I don't know about
anything that's
happening there.
I ended Rory's
fantasy football career.
Round of applause
for that one.
He's finished.
Yeah.
Wait, y'all still
play that little
fantasy game?
Yeah.
Sorry, bro.
Joe got a square off
in the finals.
Nobody care about
this shit.
Y'all children.
Parks and I are in the finals
Enjoy your fantasy world
Grow up
Can't believe y'all still play
Rory is such a novice
Grown fucking man
Last week
When he spanked me
Last week
By 40
He hit the group chat
Immediately
To say
I was a bum
I was trash
Cause you are
No that wasn't about
Fantasy football
That was just
Do we have breaking news
Breaking news
Breaking news Not good breaking news? Breaking news?
Breaking news?
Not good breaking news.
I was going to save that for later.
Let's see.
Yeah, bad breaking news.
Oh, man.
Two live crews,
Fresh Kid Ice,
died of,
I don't know this word,
C-I-R-R-H-O-S-I-S.
Cirrhosis.
Cirrhosis?
Yeah, of the liver.
I don't know what cirrhosis is,
could somebody look it up for me? That's when you drink too much.
Yeah.
I imagine that Fresh Kid Ice drank a lot.
I imagine everybody from 2 Live Crew drank a lot.
Yeah.
Damn.
Rest in peace.
Rest in peace.
He passed away a while ago, though, right?
This is not...
This is Savon.
He was passing the breaking news.
I think this is just an update on how he passed away.
I was also going to say, because I want to sound ignorant, I thought someone from 2 Live Crew just recently died.
No, this is now, I guess, the toxicology report is out.
The same way Pumps came out.
Pumps came out, and they said he had all the drugs in the world.
I mean, not Pump Peep.
I'm sorry.
I was not trying to be funny
peeps came out and they said uh that he had all the drugs in the world and i don't know all i
could tell you guys is be careful be careful but if joe didn't tell you that then you should turn
on the news and know that uh all these niggas are fucking creeps they're passing tax laws the
president's really from russia i mean just just be careful, man, in all your endeavors.
That's what complex told me, too.
Hey, good luck.
Yo, they're going to text me and say
good luck with your endeavors.
Bitch, you was the endeavor.
You're my endeavor, you bitch.
Yo, that's funny.
That's actually very funny. Anytime
that someone leaves a good fight, good luck with all your endeavors.
This was my endeavor. I don't have any more endeavors.
I put all my eggs into this one endeavor, and you guys fucking blew it.
Thanks, man.
Thanks a lot, Pinky.
Are we calling Graf for only the conversation that you and I care about?
I want Graf to tell us why there's a grinder.
What?
Graf wasn't part of that. Call Graf anyway so he can tell us why he's a grinder what graph wasn't part of that call graph anyway so he could
tell us why he's on love and hip-hop that's more the question i wanted to know is more gonna call
graph yeah i'm calling him now you want to take the aux or something yo ain't none hold on one
second i'm gonna plug the aux in well i can't that's the new the new jet oh yeah the other way graph why are you on
loving hip-hop tell us as one of the better mcs that i've heard and i've and i too have done
loving hip-hop so don't you think i'm judging god damn it even though when i did it it was way flyer
why are you doing it same reason man for the bag and the exposure tell you the truth i said no the
first two years i wasn't really with the shits i didn't want to do what it takes to be on there but
um what does it take to be on it what i mean you gotta you gotta do mixy shit i mean you know my
character i'm a cool i'm like new york cool i don't do the extra shit but i'm like you know what
i'ma play around a little bit and see how it goes.
Yo, but...
Testing the waters.
Hold up.
Rory has a question for you.
Is James R. really your man?
Hell no.
But listen.
But, but Grav, we fuck with you.
So, if James R. puts hands on you, are you going to, like, call us, man?
We'll help.
Yeah, I'm going to need
y'all back, man.
Let me tell you something.
Yo, you know me, man.
You know what's so funny?
And you know how,
I mean, I guess I can't
say this technically,
but you know how editing goes.
Yeah.
Nigga, I was talking crazy
about Son trying to set up
the booby trap
because I want him
to say something slick.
But they took all that shit out.
I'm like, damn,
they got the good stuff. Yeah. They got the good stuff good stuff wow that's why you got all yeah they're trying
to keep you on the toes make sure you always get some good stuff yeah man like i put it this way
if i if i can't like on this season i'm not really dating and doing the mixy shit which i would have
done because i brought some real fine joints to the scene but uh that's another conversation
nah you got to date somebody man man you gotta date somebody i brought
i brought i brought some bad ones to the scene somebody one of them fell out of the one i ain't
gonna say who on the radio i'll tell you one of them fell back from the storyline we had after
the deal was done that's why i didn't go but i would have been the new york stevie j if it went
the way it was hey i mean so stupid but you but it didn't go the way it was going.
So I understand this little mix and shit, but I'm cool.
You know what I'm saying?
I like being on TV, nigga. I ain't even going to hold you.
That TV push is different.
Yo, nigga, I ain't even going to hold you, man.
Yo, Grav, in between the James R. Jacquees beef,
you got to slide into Sophia the Body for the finale.
See, I can't do that because that's my man.
He had a real relationship with her.
Wait, wait.
Oh, wait.
He really had a relationship with Sophia body?
He really did.
But if he didn't, I probably would have done that just because.
I don't know.
I don't know if I would have done it or not.
But, by the way, if I can't get Mixxy with a woman on there,
then you might as well slap the shit out of one of these niggas.
One or the other.
Some gotta be lit.
That is true.
Well, listen,
you need to come up here on our podcast
because I have more questions.
I would have liked to see you and Juju out,
her casting you instead of Safari.
I would have liked to see that,
but next season,
if I get an EP credit,
I'll help out.
Yeah, man.
I need to holler you, man.
Grav, come up here and fuck with us, man.
Hit me.
What's up next week?
What's up next week?
What's next time y'all doing?
Well, am I getting fired from...
I can't get fired from here.
Hit more, man.
See how great ownership is?
You can come up here whenever, nigga.
You family.
You ain't know how this go.
Let me say this too
while I got you on the phone.
Joe, I love the way
you move career-wise, man.
You're like a ninja chameleon,
man. A ninja chameleon
is funny. What the fuck is a ninja
chameleon? A chameleon that can fight.
You're the best at whatever it is
you be doing, man. I be watching like,
if you my nigga, but I'm still like a fan of what you're doing.
I'm like, how does this fucking guy do it?
What, you have a magic wand in his pocket?
I just got fired.
I just lost my job, i'm fucking for a reason
for a reason oh because i know my worth i know my worth king i know my worth that's why i know
what that means okay okay yeah i can't can't can't let it happen but we'll kick it we'll kick it off
air nigga come fuck with us that's the fact next time y'all doing it i'm coming i'm on deck i'm on deck all right word love nigga i kind of liked when y'all was beefing
better a ninja chameleon is funny graph was one of the niggas i didn't really want the beef to go
too far because he could rap well and had some real street niggas behind him yeah shout out
south side that's pretty funny um i beef with a lot of niggas they had some real street niggas behind him. Yeah, shout out to Southside. That's pretty funny.
I beef with a lot of niggas that have some real
street niggas behind them.
I think every rapper
on Love & Hip Hop
you actually beef with.
That is not true.
You mean currently,
like right now?
No, not now.
Or ever?
Nah, I never beefed with Jim.
I never beefed with,
damn, who else was on there?
Talk about New York.
Jim was on New York.
Consequence.
All right, check this out. Craft. on New York. Consequence. All right.
Check this out.
Craft.
Hey, yo, check this out.
Saigon.
Yeah, Saigon.
I knew I wasn't bugging.
Rory's got a little point.
Yeah, I forgot the Saigon one.
Let's see here.
So listen, I can't remember what I'm forgetting that's supposed to be happening this week,
but whatever.
It can't be that important.
Nothing for you.
In honor of Black Thought, I figure for the sleeper segment,
the sleeper portion of this podcast, we just play some fucking.
Nas is an alien, too, by the way.
Sean P is an alien, too.
May he rest in peace.
I took great pride in getting cleaned up by Sean P.
It's honorable.
So I'm going gonna play this record this is a song called Journey Through The Life
this is P. Diddy featuring Nas and Beans
I'm playing this
if you are familiar with this record
then you know it is not a sleeper
because it is from a classic album
I'm playing it as a sleeper
because number one
you probably are unfamiliar with this record
number one and two
this record at the end of that album for me at the time felt like a freestyle so i'm gonna play it
because it seemed like a freestyle in honor of black thought i just want to fucking honor
niggas that rap like they fucking freestyling so this is p diddy featuring naz and beans journey through life whoa that was a trash start see why i don't have a radio station
oh yeah if i heard this before i went to rob a nigga, it was on my nigga.
Hey. left me and I tried to make her stay with me but I stay busy and her friends are cut goes they deep throat delay with me I reminisce how I miss her staring at space
resort to the lips of a stripper spraying their face glamping in the mansion home alone
I hear footsteps but shit I case not just lyrics I hold a fifth one in a ten shots can
stop spirits if niggas try to rob me then I won't hear it cause it's different from
the streets I'm missing my hood now missing all the boxes I'm surrounded by woods now We'll be right back. Jets, New York Air to Antigua, with Ananda, MTV Diva, Nas how do we survive all this mess,
East vs West, the rap game, where words became flesh, a whole pound of erg won't dissolve
my stress, still I ride to the death, love hip hop, since Afrika Bambaataa was deaf,
a lot of respect, feel me, fuck Tiff or Rock, Sean John, Jewelry, I got your same hands
that cried platinum, they cried pyramids, write about the black experience, sell it
to Merrimax, tell me if you feel it man. The same hands that cried platinum, they cried pyramids Right about the back, screaming, and selling some Aramax
Tell me if you feel it, man
I'm just a journey through the life of these real niggas
The things that they seen, they were thrilled, niggas
If you seen what they seen, you would wonder
You're a ray in the pan, in the thunder
By the time that you realize it's going down
You can find yourself going underground
When we see that this life is upon us
We will see that this life is upon us
You can never see what I see, you'll go fuck yourself The realest nigga from the streets was taught We'll see you next time. hospital beds, fat fluid, two bullets hit my leg, one passed through it, saw the blood in the hole in my calf,
look fluid,
my life's no joke,
I done played dice with soap,
upstate the cakes,
niggas slice your throat,
wear your boxes in the shower room,
and guard your soup,
I done seen the biggest niggas in the yard get broke,
I done took blocks of war,
took blocks of war,
took blocks of war,
for blocks of war,
what you think 33 and the Glock is for,
black fatigues, skullies, and binoculars, C4 block your doors, niggas can't stop this war, That's right. That's right.
I took the cops to war, nigga.
That was the hardest line ever back then. Outro Music Hey, y'all. Hey, y'all. Gangsta.
Gangsta.
The Bible has words that Christ wrote.
Evil men sacrifice goats.
I speak on my life under oath.
Since a kid troublesome.
Throwing shit at little girls.
Drop the beat.
Y'all know what's happening.
Busting these guns and straight asses.
I was way back.
Watched it die.
Covered in flies.
Then I pick up a stick.
Try to dig in its eyes.
Make it dirt pies.
Now I'm being buggy.
The eyes hitting every other nigga that rap, sound like my shit
I wear chrome 45s with ice on the grip, I don't shoot it
I roll with killers and criminals, where heroin happens
They picked up from the penile, they let you have it
All I do is give them a smile, lifestyle of the realest
You ain't ruthless, you bitch, I got a pop box, just your size, I know it fit
Your whole life's a mistake, stop holdin' a pen
Kill yourself, come back as a man over again
Cause in this lifetime I'm rainin', slayin'
Leave your whole body cold, your nails grow long, you get gray skin
May this nigga rest in peace, amen
I run with brave men, straight out the house in Blue Island
Men's agree, in the pavement, brick buildings
Thrown ladies, jump off the roof
Nigga get paced And murdered at the phone booth
New York streets made, nigga, it's crazy, nigga
Take a journey through the life of these real
Take a trip, the things that they seen
In the club, come on, tell me if you seen
What they seen
Mic check, mic check, that was Journey Through the Life
I'm pretty sure that was No Way Out
P. Diddy featuring Nas and Beans
Read the P papers, 94.
I took the cops to war.
Yes.
Um, and there you have it, man.
That is my sleeper that's not really a sleeper, but the young fucky fucks don't know shit, so whatever.
Freestyle kinda.
Yeah, kinda sorta.
Freestyle of J's.
Hi, Marty.
Oh, sorry.
Uh, we'll play Morstan so we can get like a real freestyle
it's dj caesar's uh sean smith dj caesar freestyle friend of the show dj caesar's a friend of the
show dj caesar was my dj when i did that guest radio spot in philadelphia and sean smith is a
friend of all uh so we support that sean sm Smith, baby alien. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rhyming with DJ C's, of course.
Sean Smith is a baby alien.
I got to bring through the real lyricist in the city to pull up on me.
Got Sean Smith with me.
Sean, tell the people what up, son.
What up, what up?
Sink or swim in the building, Southwest Philly.
What up?
Enough talking.
Let's get to it.
Yeah.
C's, what up? What up? Sean Smith. Let's get to it. Yeah. C's. What up?
What up?
Sean Smith.
Sank a swim.
Shout out to the whole Philly.
Yeah.
Heavy.
Look.
Let me go.
Look.
Uh.
Driving in a 96 Infinity with Jesus in the passenger.
Pulling up 62nd and Cedar in the traffic rush
Check the rear views, remember seeing I think of Maxima
Speeding up in the back of us, leading up to my massacre
My thorset told me it was a trapper
Who wasn't dapper with two authorities trailing after
He pedaled faster than metal basses
He settled passes and finally crashed with 11 wolves and several fractures
I read it on front page of the paper that next evening
Cleaning the junk late for my neighbors Show I rushed right in the crib, picked up my cousin Oh.
Woo!
Wow. up we don't get corrupted look i learned a lot from my past like all the places you can get on five dollars of gas wondering how on this line is relaxed if i could grow from my past i put on notice that i'm focusing fast i held grudges when the dough to come fast had to learn like vick
stop rushing and let go of the past when and who to not get involved with drama get calls only
difference i ain't had to do no time for my dogs niggas like to hate like it's your fault i'm calm
knowing even when it's not snowing niggas like to throw like it's your fault. I'm calm knowing even when it's not snowing. Niggas like to throw salt. I'd rather
not to be furious. My whole life
consists of love and hip-hop though my reality
serious. Mindful slayers earn tears
noticing lows. Watchful haters, they
earn shares over that blow. Confiscators
earn shares over that dough like
wild food makers. They turn squares over that
dough for real. Label me joke
I've been hotter. The cold is to stay
on these slopes. My men riders. What cold niggas ain't for your throat, they get dollars That's hard. In my mind, it's important to win Yet I'm still seeing signs of being slaughtered by friends Yeah, these niggas got their minds on them corners within
Both hands on they nine like it's quarter to ten
Move toward the grin, that silly nigga
Calm down if it get you threats
Like a P and an H, it sound like I give a F
On the real, you should chill if you dissing me
Must be epidural, I ain't feel y'all
I move how I move in the game in real life
But what's ironic is we'll never get played with
I got a lot of starving dogs I rhyme it hard for y'all, remind me of a PowerPoint I move how I move in the game in real life. But what's ironic is we'll never get played with.
I got a lot of starving dogs.
I rhyme it hard for y'all.
Remind me of a PowerPoint.
My whole project off the wall.
I take a look in the mirror and I see 50 million.
That's how I'm doing hands down, nigga, like Wendy Williams.
My mind wasn't always flying.
It's decent.
We was lost without God.
Don't know how I'm still breathing.
We'll bag an orb to survive.
We supply what they chiefing.
Want to blow up like a mob because we admire the precinct. Try to go against the odds like me and Tyler was beefing. Wouldn't go again to job because we get fired for thieving. Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Yo.
Shaw Smith, DJ Cesar.
Uh-huh. Downclived at a quarter mil and still be running. You got this title, I take your spot if I really want it. I come off the top with that hot shit like volcanoes.
Lover than most of these niggas.
Christ on my rosary picture.
Knew this beat would take some viewers' substance.
Look at me, I'm too poetic not to do it justice.
Yeah, look.
Gas chambers and fire, I merely damage.
Get planted, your last single.
I'm dying to bury standards.
It matters, they sad pay to be biased.
But my camp is compared with the last name of Mariah.
We carry cannons. here to just crack players
Arriving like Barry Sanders, I'm stumbling out the drop door
I'm humble without a doubt, frontin' I'm not about
Them troops is two fairies, they'll put some change on your head
If somethin' come out your mouth, I was shocked
Findin' they try to topple with minutes
Guess how I bombed it on Cosmic, I rhymed with Tom and they spittish
They wouldn't admit it if Obama was tired of winnin'
I'm on the track now, can't stop me before I'm finished
The damn snow, this is man slow, this is you can't warn us
Well, guns come up out of the trunk like Transformers
With damn hoes that dance on you, they playing robbers
They jam on you, they glance on you, the scans on me
My homie had his own dad, jib him out of cash
He wanted to let the aid off
He got tired of seeing ends, missing out his stash
It's ironic, I'm picking pockets and running your jeans
Always someone to scheme.
Don't be the one on your team.
Yeah.
Your favorite rapper want me to give him something to spit.
But Abraham told me not to touch the tongue of the rich.
I'm trying to spark some deep mental innovation.
Trying to put my peeps in the bigger places.
Y'all read the beef, then they get acquainted.
That's why I'm dealing with the streets and the litigations.
Yeah.
Y'all want to date Kim K's sisters.
But I really want to rekindle generations. Huh. Yeah. I ain't ready for that.
You can stop right there, my J.
Stop right there, man.
All right, Sean.
Throw some horns, even though you know.
I don't have the aux cord, so.
They can still hear him.
Yeah, nah, he bodied.
That was the faint air horn
For Sean Smith
Who we love
Applause for him
Even though I don't have the aux
Sean you know
I will give you applause
If I had the aux
But salute
Yeah he killed that
Joe had covered the old shit
So I think I want to
I want to stay
With the new kids
This Al B. Al freestyle
Out of all the flex ones
Black Thoughts included Al B. Al put out one of my favorite flex freestyles ever.
Let's go, Al.
This one's long, though, so I don't know if we want to sign out and just let this rock.
All right, man.
We're going to let this rock away.
It's because pause, nigga.
This one's long.
It's a long freestyle.
I don't know where your head is at, man.
You have a child.
Stop with all that.
I don't have a job.
My head's everywhere.
Also, how long is this?
It's around the six minute mark
It's some in between
That's why it says eight there
Yeah I'm out
Yeah
So I'd rather just let this one rock
Yeah let's let it rock
Al B. Al
Marion Projects
Jersey City Stand Up
I hear Al B. Al's
Fucking with
Kodak
I think
I haven't heard that I haven't gotten that Confirmation from Al B. Al So with Kodak, I think. I haven't heard that.
I haven't gotten that confirmation from Al Bial, so I'll just shut up about it.
But yeah, let's do it.
Al, represent Marion.
Let's do it.
Always a heartbeat to go on.
Nah, he kills this.
Okay.
Live from Marion Project, son.
The live is one.
Representing Jersey City to the fullest. Asked around about me, they tell you he'll pull it
Bradley Bell, nigga, I'm playing with these bullets
Yeah, that's the dope back wizards
Know them streets got my heart coded in the blizzard
Catch me in the trap house, snow like a blizzard
Send my lil' homie come and hit ya, get ya
You know I stay around shooters if I tell
em niggas shoot they gon shoot ya Hit your first born while he rollin on his
scooter Right in his medulla, give him the whole ruler
Easy on him Said bang bang nigga brim gang
I swear it hurt when your friends change And you be thinking they was real from the
get go He switched up and start acting like Cisco
When I was young man I always had a temper Those who know me I'm pretty sure they remember
If you piss me off man somebody getting injured Swear I'm big and pop if you put em in the
blender Put em in the
Try to understand that we all signed up To this game that we play until our time's
up Hey where I go I got the heaters up
I probably pass more pies out than Pizza Hut
Might not ever get a Grammy cause I ain't a rapper
Might not ever get an Oscar cause I ain't an actor
Just a nigga who express how he feel
And they fuck with my music cause they know I keep it real
Won't be a simple murder on the day I die
It's gon' be a mystery, someone in disguise
Actin' like they fuck with me, playin' both sides
Make sure when you do it
Look me in the eyes
They kill my bro
I feel some type of way
If I was home
He would've died
Niggas right away
Face shots
Bullets to his torso
I'll be outside
Playin' Grand Theft Auto
Hands gripped
Prayin' to the Lord
Said I wouldn't kill again
I know he heard it all before
But what happened to my brother?
Somethin' I can't ignore
They want me to dank peace
But lately I'm danking war Hold up, part of my thoughts, they corrupted
Lately them the thoughts I've been stuck with If I move crazy, they say I'm gon' get cut
quick But for my brother or my mother, I'm like
fuck it Niggas wanna know if Albie L, life is real
I know niggas doing life in jail And I write them still
Real nigga, yeah, I'm signed and sealed
And yo, I'm really bout this life for real
I swear I got homies doing time in the box
Ain't nobody shitting on them, so I'm all like they got
When I was on trial, flex, my stomach was in knots
Cause people say they love you when you gone
That shit stop, like they wanna see you burn
Showing no concern, that's why I'm out here
Hey, night, I'm on turn
Niggas want me dead, so I'm gripping on it firm
I be a real nigga, to the dirt and to the urn
Swear, hey, dingus, urn
Loyalty and trust
Told my real niggas that all we got is us
Sipping on that Tusty, blowing on that dust
Got a bitch that suck me how the county toilet flush
Niggas wanna kill me, so I'm riding around filthy
Know a lot of niggas wish the jury found me guilty
And say they real
How you real want me to stay in jail?
Your man bagged and you don't send him a mail
Free the homies, nigga
Free the homies doing real time
And I ain't talking burglaries, I'm talking real crimes
It don't hurt to pick your pen up
Sharks in the water with they fin up
Know you feel alone but you still hold your chin up
If your bill is 10 mil, we gon' get the 10 up That's's loyalty, it might be far-fetched, but niggas get the picture,
bitch really love lettin' niggas dick up, his girl left him on his first year, his mama died
on his fourth year, it's like nobody care, he phone home, but ain't nobody there, he just tryna
let his pain catch somebody, yeah, and some niggas don't use the phone cause they can't
They don't even got money for a stamp
And if they had a stamp, they had nobody to write
He got ten years in and he still ain't get a kite
Nigga, what's your life like?
I fell for him, it's well for him
He ain't even do the shit, but he went to jail for him
If he was home, he would've killed for him
At least pray for the pill for him
For him, for him
Locked in the mountain, can't see your kids
Ass sad, hurt, and they can see your rips
Beefing with the pigs, lit pigs
Little homie, a L on his first bit
Got it spitting like a cypher
50 shots on me, got him spitting
I said 50 shot K, got it spitting like a cypher
Promise mama that one day I'll get his lifer
Just left jail beating down with the lifers
Old heads like they ain't seen me since diapers
Pop one round so we hit the streets runnin'
Me and my older brother in a trap makin' hunnids
Squeeze on a nigga if I ever get confronted
So you won't understand if you ain't from it
I'm from Jersey City, man, I wish a nigga try it
Anybody get it, but these bullets ain't bias.
Niggas, you should be.
I said, fuck you hating for it, nigga.
You should be inspired.
Niggas killed the homie, and I tried to talk to him before he hit the streets.
And I'm caught in that city, and you think it's sweet.
I understand that you play, but niggas trying to eat.
He said, the kite didn't got killed like the next week.
Damn.
Man, pour a liquor for you.
Hate like Poe would make you different.
I just say I'm loyal.
Said I just say I'm loyal.
Hey, like Poe would make you different.
And then, she much gave me a bird like welcome home.
Hey, like that nigga so real he should have a clone.
Ask your bitch why she got my number in her phone.
You know them Rimmys and that Burst got me in the zone.
Same niggas I ride with i die with
in a trap wintertime i'll side with you know i keep the strap with me like my sidekick these
niggas begging for attention like my side best we used to be cool what happened to us used to be
one of the niggas i happen to trust that before the sign a year was a call nowadays it's like
the bro turned in the host yes being real now it's like the bro turned into hoes. Yes, being real now is overrated.
Cause you never see it, but they always say it.
I said, Lord, show me for my enemies.
Even the ones that was friends with me.
See, the more enemies, the easier to target.
I'm a hard nigga, just walking in as a Marcus.
And I told my shawty, get what you want.
I'm on that low dirt shit.
Nigga, this ain't what you want.
Boy, I slide up on your strip. Gripping on that fifth, get up close on him, cause I ain't
trying to miss, whoever near you when I'm shooting, getting hit, you gotta keep that
mask on, cause niggas gon' snitch, and if I had a wish, I wish it was still 24 brick,
man, I wish I could bring back my niggas that I've missed, said I wish, I wish my cousin
ain't snitched, wish my sister leave a man alone, cause he ain't shit, said I wish, wish This is key. I said niggas feel like me. I said, I said I wish. Wish I could take a bullet that hit banger.
Wish the bullet jammed in that chamber.
Damn.
I wish Nuke knew he was in danger.
Still gangbanging, twisting fingers.
Damn.
I said, I said, I said.
I'd be more as a, I said.
Wish I could talk to Green, I could talk to Meech.
So much shit I gotta say, I could write a speech.
Who think that I forgot about my niece.
I'm just out here running any streets and I ain't even make it to the spot.
I'm trying to reach.
It seems like I'm losing everything.
I'm trying to keep,
and I'm trying to keep.
I wish all my niggas,
they had millions.
All my niggas,
they had billions.
I know these bitches.
Like I wish he had feelings.
And all these fuck niggas out here trying to kill him. Yeah. Yeah. you see us.
Alright, well shit.
I guess that's how we'll end it.
I have no more I have no more
Henny Palooza's to plug
Joe has no more
Everyday Struggle to plug
there's nothing to plug
damn it
it's over
fucking mall man
waiting for him to get
fired from the block
waiting for
waiting for the
can course to have enough of him
there's only two ways
to get fired from the block
and I don't want
Maul to get fired
Maul is not on the block
let me just say that
I don't know what
these niggas is talking about
Maul might get fired
from the new
Rockefeller 96
Urban Outfitters
shit they got going on
Maul can't even get off
fucking Air Force Ones or a Rockefeller chain or our title.
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
Anyways, peace.