The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 153 | "La di da di da"
Episode Date: March 14, 2018This week Joe, Rory, and Mal discuss the biggest headlines within the culture starting off with Big Sean and Jhene Aiko’s rumored break-up (15:32). Juelz Santana found himself in an awkward situatio...n this past week which caused him to flee from an airport, the guys discuss (1:10:30). And is Joe disloyal? After Royce da 5’9’s interview on Rap Radar, some are questioning Joe’s loyalty to Eminem. Joe responds to Royce and to those who believe he isn’t loyal(1:31:47). When it’s all said and done, nobody wins when the family feuds. Other topics include: -Cardi B announcing her album release date (43:46) -The guys predict when Drake, Kanye West, and Beyonce will release their albums (52:01) -New music from Jeremih and Wale (1:58:03) Sleeper picks of the week: Rory: Arin Ray (featuring Ty Dolla $ign) “Take” | https://soundcloud.com/arin-ray/take-feat-ty-dolla-ign Joe: Jeremih “Cards Right” | https://soundcloud.com/officialjeremih/cards-right Mal: Vado “Walk” | https://soundcloud.com/user-130187581/vado-walk-freestyle
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Mic check 1, 2, 1, 2, mic check 1, 2, 1, 2
Oh yes
Start the Wednesday with some ghosts
Let's go ghosts
Rest in peace Craig Mack
Yo, I'm telling you, turning his mic up will always be hard
I turned this on in memory of the great Craig Mack be hard. Hey!
I turned this on in memory of the great
Craig Mack.
But it's Ghost.
Ghost, huh?
No, but he's on the remix.
He's on it.
So his comeback
was to this remix.
I'ma get to it.
Let's appreciate Ghost
for a second.
Huh?
Always appreciate Ghost.
That's what I'm saying. Okay hold up oh shit i fucked it up
where is it here we go all right now this is how we want to start this is the remix so let's bring
all right that's what i've got. Microphone check.
One, two, one, two, one, two, one, two.
Get my air horn right up in this bitch.
Let me hit my tag up in here.
Let me hit their corny tag up in here.
Now.
That's actually better than your tag.
Sound like some hate right there.
I see that Rory retweets anyone who mentions that to him.
Like anybody who says that the tag is hard, Lil Rory and all shit, he retweets them for the rest of the day.
It's corny.
I don't, but all the people that tell me, I don't.
Then over the weekend, Rory was tweeting that his little cousin has an album coming soon.
Like this drop is the rollout.
Yes, gotta get the streams up.
I don't know what's going on, but it's fine.
Welcome back to the Joe Budden Podcast, episode number 153.
I'm your host, Joe Budden.
Alongside of me are a few of my trusty friends and associates.
Small, Parks, Rory, Savon, and Erickson are here.
Let me hit the round of applause button to make it seem like I really genuinely care about all of them.
Here we go.
So now that we got that
out of the way, I want to say what up to the YouTube
viewership. Hit the little subscribe
button. Erickson is bodying that.
Applause for him. Turn up the applause.
I want to apologize
to anybody who listened last week.
I listened back last week
and I fucked a lot up last week.
That might have been the trashest I've been last week.
Dang, what you did?
Just as far as the mental state.
I don't know, but I fucking was stuttering,
slurring words.
Mixed people up with people that were other people.
I don't know what was going on last week.
No, look what happened to
Joey Lawrence when you spoke his name up.
Yo, I'm telling you, man.
I'm going bankrupt the next day.
The Joe Budden podcast curse continues.
Shit, where's the Madden curse?
When is the last time
you saw Joey Lawrence's name?
Apparently, you saw him at the Grammys.
Looking great. Looking fine.
And, you know Nat
When TMZ put up the picture of him going bankrupt
I was like damn Joey Lawrence isn't even looking great
Joey Lawrence looks like he's having some trouble
But how are you gentlemen doing?
I'm good
We don't catch up in the front of the podcast anymore
We come in and get right to the business
Why y'all do that?
What's up with y'all?
Get right to the shit.
But why?
Why not?
Because we're friends, number one.
Nobody wants to hear about how we're doing.
I'm just saying.
A nigga told me I better be in here last night recording.
I'm like, first of all, we record on Tuesdays, number one.
Don't tell me where to be.
You almost feel like, who y'all talking to?
I'm having real beef in my DMs a little bit.
I DMed Cashdoll.
Okay.
How'd that go?
Machine to reply.
Ah.
Okay.
What did you say?
I left your name out of it.
Okay.
Thank you.
Don't act like we all ain't got them friends.
What, the Dirty Macs?
He's that throwing a name in some shit.
That's Maul.
Maul does that to me. What? Get the fuck out of here He's that throwing a name in some shit. That's Maul. Maul does that to me.
What? Get the fuck out of here.
He probably used a last name too.
Yeah.
I act like I don't know Joe. I'm so mad
this podcast is viewable now.
Viewable. I hate that.
I don't know Joe.
I hate Cash Doll and asked her if she would be
open to being a guest on our podcast whenever
she is in the New York area.
Okay.
No response.
I would like that.
No, not yet.
Okay.
I mean, it was just the other day.
We'll give it time.
How long do you have to give somebody to reply?
A couple days is rough.
I start sweating in DMs after an hour and a half.
Check their profile, see if they tweeted.
Well, after a week, I psychologically talk myself into thinking they just don't check their DMs.
Whatever helps.
Because after a week, if it doesn't say seen, like if it's still blank underneath.
Whatever works.
Yo, I hate this nigga.
What if it says seen and like it still ain't no reply?
That's worse.
That's what I was thinking to myself.
That's worse.
No, you know what's actually worse than that? No, that's real bad. That is real bad. That's worse. That's what I was thinking to myself. That's worse. No, you know what's actually worse than that?
No, that's real bad.
That is real bad.
That's terrible.
You know what's real bad?
When you go to a girl's page and then you go to DM her and you see that you DM'd her.
Already.
And she dubbed you already.
Damn, I got to unsend that one.
Word.
Does it matter if you unsend it at that point?
No right
Nah it's over
Yeah I didn't think so
Well how's everyone doing?
Rory came in here
You know with a different bop
I had a bop?
Well first of all he had the group chat last night
To say
Hey guys
Do you mind doing the podcast
A little later tomorrow
Because I'm really busy until about 8 p.m.
Right? No? Yeah.
He said that. 6, 6.30. He comes in here
today with his little white skin, all extra lathered.
He's got his little beard butter
on. Don't look at me and think lathered
ever. I'm just saying. Well, it's not
white, it's like a pinkish.
That's just because spring is coming.
He's got buttons on the shirts, though.
So something important is happening.
Maybe some extra SPF this morning.
Well, I got to go to Rory's housewarming.
Did you have it?
No, I didn't yet.
And who said you was invited?
That's about it.
That's why I asked if you had it.
Did you have it?
What if he said yeah?
Then he would have had it.
That would have been the end of that one.
All right.
So we have a lot to get into.
Well, actually, we don't have that much to get into.
So all I ask is that the topics that we have here, we all talk about them together.
Like a podcast?
Yeah, y'all say that, but I think we're easily on a four-week run of me not knowing what the fuck is going on here.
And the fans keep saying, yo, you guys are getting funnier and funnier.
Shit, even Imani put in our group chat, this has been the best four-week run y'all ever had. I was like, yo, you guys are getting funnier and funnier. Even Imani put in our group chat,
this has been the best four-week run y'all ever had.
I was like, shit, was it?
I don't know. I've been going home
frustrated.
Y'all like it. I love it.
Exactly my point.
So where do we...
Let me see. Where do we begin
here? I don't know what is...
You know, what's really important here
i mean nothing's really oh craig mack duh craig mack how do you we always the songs be throwing
me off a little bit uh i woke up to that news yeah i saw it last night before i went to bed
i saw it this morning how you saw it last night he died this morning he died
i know i'm talking shit um uh i don't like waking up to that news i don't like waking up to that news
I don't like waking up to see people
from our culture have
passed especially at such a young
age you feel like the rappers
when you hit that 42
43 44 area
this was the second time where I
opened my phone first time it was with
Fife and someone had just put a clip and I didn't
read the caption I was like oh start my it was with Fife and someone had just put a clip and I didn't read the caption.
I was like, oh,
start my morning with some Fife on Instagram
and then I scrolled down
and the same thing happened
with Flavor In Your Ear this morning.
Damn.
And that's starting to become a trend
I don't like that now I have to think
when I see middle-aged rappers,
I have to think,
all right, is this being posted
because they passed?
Yeah, my heart beats extra fast
when two people post a picture
of the same person back to back. Oh, thank God it's their birthday. Yeah. That's why extra fast when two people post a picture of the same person
back to back. Oh, thank God it's their birthday.
Yeah. That's why I'm mad at Rick Ross.
We'll talk about it later. You know what's crazy? That's how I
found out I'm big, though.
Because I remember
I was in high school
and I'm walking to the train and I just happened
to walk past the newsstand and I looked at the paper.
Like, I looked down at the paper
and saw Rest in Peace B.I.G.
And I was like, what?
You are confusing so many kids right now
with how you received that news.
Yeah, but that's, I mean,
that's kind of like what Instagram is now.
Trains, newspapers.
Yeah, Instagram is the new newspaper.
So it's like, you know what I mean?
Like, I'm literally walking past the newsstand
and saw that because he was killing me.
And Instagram is not the new newspaper.
They're both full of shit.
Twitter is the new newspaper. Yeah, I'll agree with that. Twitter, Instagram is not the new newspaper. They're both full of shit. Twitter is the new newspaper.
Yeah, I'll agree with that.
Instagram is not the new newspaper.
That's the new back page?
I can make a case.
It's the new back page.
It's the new back page Instagram?
Yeah.
It's the old back page Instagram.
That's always just crazy
just finding out people
pass like that.
I don't know.
It's just weird.
Craig Mack, you know,
when I saw the news,
I was like, damn, Craig Mack has done a really great job of staying off the radar for so long.
Again, I always marvel at that because it's so difficult to do.
So now I'm reading the story, and I saw that he gave his life to God and the church.
He was like, you know.
And I saw that he was sick.
I didn't know any of that.
I didn't know anything.
I didn't either.
The last I think I had heard of him was the Can't Stop, Won't Stop documentary that he was sick. I didn't know any of that. I didn't know anything. I didn't either. The last I think
I had heard of him
was the Can't Stop,
Won't Stop documentary
that Puff did.
Oh, okay.
And they were showing
them putting that concert together
and he was calling Craig Mack,
I believe it was Craig Mack,
on speaker
about getting him involved
and he was like,
nah, I'm with God now.
I'm cool.
Which, it would have been great
to see Craig Mack do that,
but also that makes me think
he was in a really good place.
So that's why this news was a little shocking, because I thought he was really taking care of himself.
I didn't know he was sick at all.
I was looking for Craig Mack during the Bad Boy reunion.
I believe he was the only one that didn't make it.
Yeah, but that was a prominent absence.
Oh, for sure.
That was noticeable.
Like, damn, where is the first act ever signed to Bad Boy?
Right.
Where's the first act?
Like, a lot of people don't know.
Craig Mack was the one that was the nice one.
Like, when he signed.
Before Big.
Before Big.
He was the one with all the big, grand lyricist plans in the future.
His was the album everybody was behind, and they were hyping up.
And then Big came.
So, I mean. Big was on the B side
of one of his records
right
isn't that kind of
how they introduced him
Flavin' Your Ear
Big was on the B side
of Flavin' Your Ear
black single
cassette tape
I had
and then Big just took off
because who knew
that people would receive
Big that way
but rest in peace
to Craig Mack
gone but not forgotten.
I want to pull up what Puff had to say about it.
Let me go to that because that should be important.
It was a caption or you did a video?
In the newspaper, Instagram.
In the newspaper.
Front page?
Exactly.
Diddy says,
Craig Mack, you were the first artist to release music on Bad Boy
and gave us our first hit.
You always followed your heart and you had an energy that was out of this world.
You believed in me and you believed in Bad Boy.
I will never forget what you did for hip hop.
You inspired me and will continue to inspire us.
We will always love you.
Bad Boy for life.
Rest in peace.
Craig Mack.
Kind words from Puff.
And again, rest in peace to Craig Mack and shout out to his family and his loved ones
yeah
yeah
R.I.P.
alright let's get to the
fuck shit
the non-great hip hop shit
the what?
non-great hip hop shit
well no we got
no we got some topics
I think all this stuff is great
actually
we got some
actual hip hop topics
do we?
did you guys not see Rory come in late and want to tell us the topics we got.
How you know what we got?
Oh yeah, because I texted you.
Well, that too.
But Royce's Freestyle, that was great hip hop.
That's true.
I enjoyed that thoroughly.
All right, Rory's doing that thing again.
We're not starting with Royce.
You shut the fuck up.
Because I really wanted to get to that.
I didn't care about hip hop.
I wanted to get to the shit I didn't care about hip hop. I wanted to get to the shit.
We will start with summer preparation.
I think that's very important.
It is snowing now in the New York area.
It is supposed to snow next week in the New York area.
And that should be the last of the snow.
We'll show you a fucking weatherman. That should be the last. Yo,. We'll show you a fucking weatherman.
That should be the...
Yo, who the fuck did you just turn into?
Did you check the Doppler radar?
Yo, who are you?
And that should be the last of the snow.
Get the fuck out of here, man.
How do you know it's the last of the snow?
So for the listeners who have a bit more substance than maul and rory back to my point on march 17th is when the farmers is when the farmers
is when the farmers are gonna start their farmer shit oh my god and if you a real nigga like me
man get the fuck out of here if you are pardon me i mean i can't oh my bad guy get your farm
get your farmer's almanacs at all if you're a real nigga like me and you are Pardon me I mean I can't Oh my bad Get your farmer's almanac
If you're a real nigga
Like me
And you are from
Some urban areas
Then you know
That whatever's going on
With the farmer's almanac
Directly correlates
To how women
Are going to behave
And receive you
During the warmer months
They're the groundhogs
Of the season
Yeah
Did y'all just call women
Groundhogs
I want no part of that I didn't just call women Groundhogs of the season? Yeah. Did I just call women groundhogs? I want no part of that.
I didn't just call women groundhogs.
Oh, okay.
Then what?
You the fucking...
I just don't want no part of that.
He's the moral compass.
Yeah, you are the last dude
that's the moral compass.
So what I'm saying is,
next week is the last week of snow,
and then the weather will begin to get warm.
I'm going to say that that's why this janae big sean shit is going on i'm gonna say this is why the amber 21 stuff is going on
i've seen quite a few breakups and i don't think that's uncommon at the end of winter is all I'm saying. I think people are gearing up for their summer ho run.
But all of these people live in California.
It's been warm there.
It's still a mentality.
It's a mentality.
All of these people reside in LA.
It's 80 degrees there right now.
Yeah, like Big Sean has been
in California for months.
Jhené is from California.
So are you saying that there's no summertime in California?
No, there is a summertime
in California, but it hasn't been.
You think this don't apply? You're telling me that the
months are not warmer during the summer in California?
They're a little warmer, but
there are 70 and 80 degree days in
February and March in LA
Yo every time I'm talking about
Some New York shit
You come in with some Cali
I'm saying because
These people live in LA
So they've been in 80 degree weather
For about two months now
Alright but we in New York
And I'm talking about a mind state
Yeah but I'm just saying
The mind state is different
It's the mind state
Depending on where you live though
It's still summer out there
They gearing up man
Just play along That's all we have i'm just trying to prove your father's almanac
your farmer's almanac shit is totally wrong but go ahead my father has an almanac huh
okay so let's let's dig into all right so forget about that forget about the farmers and what
they're doing which you diet food man i don't see how you joking about that so okay let's dig into it. All right. So forget about that. Forget about the farmers and what they're doing, which you diet food, man.
I don't see how you're joking about that.
I don't see how you can't joke about that with all your diet bullshit.
But let's get into it.
Okay.
Maul said he knows nothing about Jhené and Big Sean's breakup.
I know nothing about it.
Right.
What have you been doing?
Yeah, word.
Oh.
I was about to say,
what the fuck is that?
Sean being a bad boy.
Okay.
Maybe.
I freestyled that one.
But Rory,
tell them all about
what's going on.
Maul,
this is what's happening.
And this is the best.
Rory,
tell Maul
about what's going on.
Maul.
Because I keep trying
to make Rory be a B-Mike
and he won't.
Okay.
You didn't even give me a second to say it.
Yo, so what happened with Big Sean?
He was running around with one of the pussycat dolls
and Jhene called him.
The important part is
which pussycat doll?
Nicole Scherzinger.
That's not a bad person to be running around with.
She's fire. She's super fire.
You can't be mad at anybody for running around with her.
If I'm going to run around with anybody, it't be mad at anybody for running around with her.
If I'm going to run around with anybody,
it's going to be
with Nicole Scherzinger.
And there's nothing wrong
with just running around.
Yeah.
Especially when it's nice out.
Because it is summer
in LA right now.
It's summer somewhere.
What are we doing?
I'm nervous.
Well,
I'm not even listening to y'all.
This is Jhené's Farmer's Almanac. This is Jhene's Farmer's Almanac.
This is Jhene's Farmer's Almanac?
Yes.
First of all, I feel like every song Jhene Aiko ever made is about this instance.
Leading up to this point?
Yes.
Don't rumble on about it.
Yeah.
You ever heard this song, Mo?
Mm-hmm.
You don't think it applies well like you said
Janays most of the names music kind of applies to a breakup or kidnova actually
I know you heard it cuz you can't you put me on a Janae early but you put me
on a lot of music on low Rory has been a big fan of Janae early as as have I
right y'all don't feel like every one of her songs are about this moment?
Since you first meet.
Okay.
Like, literally since her first song.
That interlude on the B2K album might have been about this, too.
Oh, but wait.
Let's get to the hook.
Oh, yes.
Wait, this ain't the hook yet?
All right, turn it back down.
Oh, wait.
She's singing about Big Show.
You gave me a new start.
No?
Oh y'all don't care Oh yes
Okay let's talk about it
Does Jenea Akel shower every day or not?
For sure
According to her she says
She said she does not more
And I'm having a serious conversation
She said this?
Yeah
And so did that other
I don't believe that
No she Yo look how a lie gets started and I'm having a serious conversation. She said this? Yeah. And so did that other... I don't believe that. At Summer Jam. No, she...
No, no, no.
Yo, look how a lie gets started.
I'm not rolling.
I'm not showering at Summer Jam.
I'm not rolling with that.
Wait, she better shower before Summer Jam.
I'm not believing...
I'm not believing Jhene Aiko
says she doesn't shower every day.
I think I've been...
You would have to show me
where she said that.
On The Breakfast Club.
Oh, it was Breakfast Club.
People don't watch that,
so there you go.
Oh, shit.
She says she doesn't shower every day?
Yes.
And so did Naya Rivera.
So that's Sean's type.
Stinky.
Wait, was she joking?
Let's have a serious conversation. First of all, how do you just joke?
That's not even a funny joke.
I don't know what the context of the conversation leading up to that was.
She may have said a joke.
I'm like, no, I don't shower every day. I cannot see leading up to that was. She may have said it jokingly. No, I don't shower every day.
I cannot see her being serious saying that.
It was said.
It was said seriously.
I don't believe it.
All right.
Let's move on.
No, let's not move on.
Let's move on by not believing her.
Oh, yeah.
We're moving on from that.
So my point is, I mean, how are you going to keep a nigga around?
Right.
Now it's all just starting to make sense.
Now it makes sense why Jhené is always going through a breakup or sounding like she's hot.
She always smells like she is running around.
You got to wash that ass.
Yeah, you got to wash that ass every day.
Twice some days.
Like, you have to.
Now.
Especially in the summertime that's coming.
It's hot in L.A. too.
The fuck?
There's a lot of sweat.
How do you can't be in L.A. and not shower every day? There's a lot of sweat. You can't be in LA and not shower every day.
There's a lot of sweat.
You can't be anywhere
and not shower every day.
That's not true.
Only place you can be
every day and not shower
is in the bookings.
That should be the only
place you in where you
not shower every day.
Let me tell you,
I'd be home not showering
like a motherfucker.
Depends the farmer's
almanac and what it's
like for me.
Are y'all going to run
this farmer's thing
into the ground? Actually, yes. Okay, do y'all going to run this Farmer's thing into the ground?
Actually, yes.
Okay, do y'all have any more perspective about Jhené's fake breakup?
Oh, Maul didn't believe it.
You didn't believe that they broke up because they both said it.
Yeah, but no.
She made a statement in the newspaper.
Let me find it.
You told me that they said that it wasn't true.
No, I told you that Jhené said it's not true.
And then Big Sean retweeted it with some clapping emojis, which definitely said it's true.
But then you said, what is the new breakup thing, that she unfollowed him on Instagram?
Yeah.
That's where this whole rumor came from. Which is
usually a sign that
things are rough at the household.
This was her statement.
Sorry, but nothing about your
guys' fan fiction stories are true.
Dot, dot, dot. I still
love you, though. I'm gonna go out on
a limb. Is that last
part maybe a sub to Sean and not
the fans?
a limb is that last part maybe a sub to sean and not the fans the internet is a wild place it's a whole other reality bless the internet amen that's what she said
oh she said that that was on the twitter yes but this is my thing about when celebrities do that
that don't disprove nothing yes janae aiko the internet is a wild
place and it's unbelievable sometimes now did this nigga cheat or not address this shit she won't
oh she said she didn't but i don't believe that so let's talk about it nicole skerskinger
sherwinger whatever the fuck her name is she She's hot. She always has been. She probably showers too.
She definitely looks like she showers.
She showers a lot.
She buys the expensive lotion too.
Not just the regular like Lumaderm shit.
She definitely. The one with the glitter
in it that's really hard to get out.
Nicole is a body butter
woman. I can tell a body butter woman.
A lotion woman. That's important.
She's definitely a body butter woman. That's an important distinction.
The body butter chicks body the lotion chicks.
Yeah, for sure.
And you end up stealing some of that shit too
and you glisten a bit better for your day.
Yeah, body butter just
goes on a little. Don't really
hit the jackpot and meet Shorty that's
blending the body butter with the oils.
She's doing her own little combination.
That's always great. If you get bath bombs from Lush,
then you've definitely hit the jackpot.
Should Janaya go feel any type of way
toward this Nicole Skirskings girl?
The story goes as this, Mo.
There was an Oscars party. I believe that as this, there was an Oscars party.
I believe that.
I believe there was an Oscars party.
I believe that there was a party around the Oscars.
Big Sean was said to have gone to this Oscars party.
I believe that.
I believe that so far in the story.
Big Sean was said to have gone to the Oscars party
with Nicole Skirskings.
I'm rolling so far.
You don't want to be alone. I believe that. You don't want to be alone at the Oscars party with Nicole Scherzinger. I'm rolling so far. You don't want to be alone.
I believe that.
Right.
You don't want to be alone at the Oscars party.
Especially the climate in Hollywood now with all the handsy people.
You have to have a buddy.
You have to have someone near you.
That's true.
In case.
Yeah, with the Me Too movement.
Yeah, I get it.
So I believe that so far.
They said this Oscars party did not allow phones or cameras or videos.
I believe that.
I can believe that.
That's a really good time to say great party.
I can believe.
Not only do I believe that, but if I were looking for somewhere to cheat.
That confirms some more.
That's the one.
If I was looking for a spot that I could be.
You said a no phone allowed party.
A little touchy.
Yeah.
It's at the no phones allowed party. And if there's one person, I think, who knows where the no phones allowed party is, it's Big Sean.
I don't think that the no phones allowed party is inviting the person that doesn't shower.
I'm sure Jhené has been to some no phones parties before.
Maybe not no foam because she doesn't shower, but no phones. Jhené, go fuck yourself. I love Jhené has been to some no phones parties before. Maybe not no foam because she doesn't shower, but no phones parties.
Jhené going to fuck your mother.
I love Jhené.
So all of that story is believable so far.
And I have yet to get into how familiar are y'all with Nicole Skirskisker?
Not very.
I just know that she's attractive.
Yeah, I've watched her.
She has some sex appeal. I've seen her work. you guys heard any any stories no let's hear them seriously no
let's hear no let's let's get the snitching joe what's up it's not snitching say von uh pull up
this pull up uh the whole shirt sex tape no no but i was about to say i'm shocked that y'all
didn't hear but y'all don't listen or
look for news at all but this was a real big thing a long time ago about the pussycat dolls
and some type of sex slave deal oh i remember hearing about that and about what they made
this particular young woman do oh but they made her do she's somewhat somewhat yeah her story
nicole skerskinger i don't i'm mispronouncing her name so please forgive me i don't know But they made her do? Yeah, her story. Nicole Scherzinger.
I'm mispronouncing her name, so please forgive me.
I don't know how to pronounce it. Scherzinger.
Scherzinger.
Thanks, Bull.
I don't want to read it.
I mean, but just what do they do?
It was some wild shit.
You read it on your own.
We ain't got time.
We're doing a podcast.
Savon stands up in the middle of the room.
Pull it up and then read it on your own.
It's fucking crazy.
No, he stand up like we're in the middle of the room. Pull it up and then read it on your own. It's fucking crazy. No, he's standing up like we're in the auditorium.
Say, I wasn't thinking about pulling
that shit up on his phone and reading it.
Pull it up and read it on your own.
I'm telling him to do it because
none of y'all have.
But what I'm saying is, there were
some stories floating around about exactly how
promiscuous this young lady was. I'm not saying that's the
particular story that I asked
Savon to pull up, but
there were some rumblings going on.
So when I saw that this was the story,
true or not, I said,
yeah, the new hoes can't fuck with some of the old hoes.
All right, Big Sean, I know
our viewers can't see that, but I get it.
Fam, he did
that.
This chick is upside down
doing a split
and Jhene is not showering
who loses
who loses this one buddy
Jhene gonna fuck you up
I don't believe that Jhene doesn't shower
Jhene has me blocked on Twitter
how the fuck would I know
we've done nothing but support her
I don't know
I have no idea this is even the first time I ever talked about her Not showering
Alright well
Does Nicole
Whatever have you blocked?
I don't know
Another incentive for Big Sean
What do you guys think about
Janae's tattoo?
She got a Big Sean tattoo right?
Yeah
A Big Sean face tattoo
Wait Listen I know you guys don't like To give Big Sean tattoo, right? Yeah, a Big Sean face tattoo.
Listen, I know you guys don't like to give Big Sean credit,
but he allegedly cheated.
She got his face tattooed on his arm and then told her to hold it down on Twitter.
Swag.
Now, listen, we spoke about that not too long ago here.
It might have been even with Jhené,
where we said,
you got to wait and wait until you got them.
Wait until you got them fully writing songs and shit about you,
tattooing your face on you before you can cheat and do some wild shit.
Who was we talking?
Oh, Cardi and Offset is what we were talking about. Yeah.
Where that came up.
That tattoo was stupid from the jump.
No?
A face tattoo is always a bad idea.
Anything with like a significant other tattoo. Yeah, that's what I'm about to say. Where do y'all stand on significant other A face tattoo is always a bad idea. Anything with a significant other tattoo.
Yeah, that's what I'm about to say.
Where do y'all stand on significant other tats?
It's not a good idea.
I don't even know if I agree with marriage tats.
I don't even know if I agree with marriage.
It's never a good idea.
That's another conversation.
It's never a good idea to get a significant other's name or anything tatted on you.
Tell me why.
Never?
Never.
Never.
You should never do that.
Find another way to show your commitment.
If you're married, no?
Even if you're married, I don't care.
That's why jewelry was picked, because you can take it off.
Because the thing about it is, I mean, you can get cover-ups and things like that, but
I don't know.
I just think it's just, I don't know.
I just never understood that thing.
Who is she going to turn Big Sean's face into?
She's going to turn Big Sean's face into into a koi fish or some shit like that.
Big koi.
His name is going to be Big Koi from now on.
Definitely. That's the number
one cover up. You see a chick with a koi fish on her side?
That shit was definitely
the name of Eric
or Dante before.
You can't fool me with the koi fish.
That's a great observation.
I'm telling you. That's the number one cover up is the koi fish. Probably because the koi fish. That's a great observation. I'm telling you.
That's the number one cover-up is the koi fish.
Probably because the koi fish is big enough to really cover up.
It has a lot of curves to it.
I get it.
Scales.
You can't fool me with that shit.
What's the name of the koi fish?
You got to ask that question.
Because chicks don't ever just go get a nigga's name.
They got to go get colors, get it mad bold and big.
Well, it used to just be the name.
That's somewhat new.
You got to start checking
the inside of chicks' bottom lips, too,
because that's the new spot
to get a nigga's name tatted.
I'm never doing that.
Yeah, if you meet a girl,
you got to pull her lip.
How do you go about checking?
Pull her lip like a...
Like a koi fish.
You got to pull her lip, man.
Just check to see
If it's a nigga name
In her mouth
Check the gyms while you're in there
Maul is on one today
I'm serious though
Check to see if it's a nigga
Name in her mouth
You would be surprised
How many women have
A dude's name tatted
On the inside of their bottom lip
I'm dead serious
I'm not even joking right now
That's the funny part
I want Maul to move
Out of the Bronx
What you mean?
I'm telling you
This is what's happening
I don't think I know Many women who have men's names tattooed on the inside of their mouths.
I'm telling you, and some of them have it as the invisible ink.
I'm telling you, you would be surprised, bro.
Remember the shit they was doing in Black Panther?
The shit when they was pulling their lip?
Yes, more.
Women, niggas' names tattered like that.
Okay, so now my question to you is, how many women do you know like that?
I know at least four
that have a dude's name
tatted in their lip.
Are you one of them?
No.
You trash, man.
I'm telling you,
I do though.
You're not even tattooed
in no chick's mouth.
I don't ever want to be
tattooed in a chick's mouth.
Never.
You're not even
underneath a koi fish.
Keep my name
out your mouth, man. Damn, that's crazy. Straight up a koi fish. Keep my name out your mouth, man.
Damn, that's crazy.
Straight up.
Oh, God.
Keep my name out your mouth.
That tattoo, though, that's why I think they're denying this.
Of course, you can understand why you think they're denying it, no?
Yeah, I get it.
Everything is expensive.
I'm trying to see where you fall on it.
Do you believe that this happened or no?
Stop protecting.
I 100% believe it happened and he cheated.
Yes, there we go.
Have you seen Nicole Scherzinger in person before?
A long time ago.
She's super fine.
But is she still fine?
Yes.
But, oh, that's what I wanted to talk about.
None of these new hoes can compete with the old hoes.
The old hoes had the hoe in a time where it was tough to hoe.
That's true.
Honestly, it was tough to hoe. That's true. Honestly,
it was,
it was tough to hoe.
They had to really target their marks,
locate them.
It was a lot went into hoeing back then.
Checkpoints.
Oh yeah.
It wasn't no DM.
You literally had to go through checkpoints.
No,
no,
no.
Yeah.
Trust had to be built sometime.
Like a lot went into it back then.
Today.
Oh, you always got it easy today uh
i don't think so when you talk about nicole scherzinger and i'm not calling her a hoe but
what i'm saying is some of the older promiscuous super head wait comparing nicole to super head
no what i'm saying is anybody that was rocking back then in their sexuality like out there right you know we joke
around a lot niggas never been outside that's our little line right the women that were outside
versus today's woman outside i wish i could say certain shit just bluntly but like like today
and it says wait you don't say shit bluntly? Certain shit. Oh, okay. Like today, there's a squad of women.
Remember that old, what was that old list that I had?
The top five girls from New York that you should totally want to bang until they open their mouth.
That's a very interesting list.
No, I talked about that list with you.
I would love to.
We've had that discussion.
It's not on the podcast. I would love to. Yes, we have because a few of them from the list hit me like damn you think i'm
dumb we've had that talk on the podcast but uh it's a few chicks today to just try to be all
extra sexy and like embrace all the new tricks of hoeing today and it just looks bad it just
looks wrong i don't think y'all can compete with some of the chicks that was really getting it in
back then i.e nicole scherzinger versus janae aiko well nicole's she's she's experienced yeah she's been around
she's a vet yeah she's older she's older woman she's a wily vet a hard nose made her rounds
nicole scherzinger is a hard nose vet i don't think janae stood a chance
i just want the older women go in with a plan and they know what
they want out of it before it begins new women just go in for the vibes let me vibe this person
out let me tell you something i've seen a clip with janae aiko talking to some six-year-olds
right okay it's a show it's a show where they put celebrities with the six-year-olds and they
have the six-year-olds ask them questions okay and i was watching it and then toward the middle of it janae started
ask asking them do they know what cheating is and a one-night one-night stand and open
open relationship yeah but that's the premise of the show but how she was speaking. What is this show? All right, I'm pulling it up.
That's a sick fucking show, by the way.
But what I'm saying is how she was speaking to these six-year-old kids about cheating and all of this other shit, open relationship.
It said to me anyway, man, there's some deep-rooted shit with this lady and abandonment.
That's what it said to me.
Or maybe the show, maybe she was told that that's how what it said to me. Or maybe the show,
maybe she was told that that's how it was supposed to be.
Like she would have to ask
them adult questions.
Now I'm getting my phone.
That's crazy.
I don't know.
Who's the executive producer
of this show?
That's a crazy show.
Because that lifespan is short.
Who's letting their kids go on that shit?
I'm not letting my kid
talk about cheating.
With Jhene Aiko.
Yeah,
with cheating with Jhene Aiko.
No,
you won't be making that.
Sorry.
Okay, so I found it. I i found it now this is a show this is a show that they do with you know but i just fast forwarded
to the part where she asked this because i thought it was pretty telling but i'm obsessive with shit
to just chill what's an open relationship an open relationship is a waste of time.
An open relationship is when two people are okay with their boyfriend or girlfriend having other boyfriends and girlfriends.
It's weird, right?
That's weird.
I know.
But, you know, everyone has their preference.
That's called cheating.
Exactly.
Say that now. cheating. Exactly.
Now, exactly.
You say that now,
little Jermaine.
Wait till you look back at that video clip
14 years from now.
Little Jermaine.
Overrelation
is going to be the shit up.
What?
Little Jermaine
is going to be out here
going crazy.
But,
Jermaine has some type of issues when it comes to this shit up. What? Lil Jermaine is gonna be out here going crazy. But, Jermaine has some type of issues
when it comes to this
cheating shit.
That's the only reason.
I've listened to her
last three projects.
I know, but...
Well, she's been heartbroken.
Oh, man, yo,
I'm tired of that.
I'm just saying.
I'm tired of that.
She has been.
Nigga, I've been heartbroken.
Yeah, but...
Men have been heartbroken.
We hear it in your music.
That's what I'm saying.
We hear it in her music.
But it's nothing...
I mean,
I just think that that was the reason she did that show, because they know that
that's the type of person she is.
That's the type of questions that they put forward.
Okay, cool.
Listen, 21 and Amber, they're rumored to have broken up.
I think Amber denied it.
I don't know.
I don't know if they denied it.
I'm not really checking.
I still don't believe they're really together.
I think that's all.
I thought they had been done.
To be honest.
Y'all have no faith in love.
Love, huh?
Love.
But people are only getting this.
I want to lead this conversation to Instagram
etiquette like we were talking about before you got here, Rory.
People are only having these breakup conversations
because people are unfollowing people
on social media.
Yeah, that's the new way of breaking up. People are only having these breakup conversations because people are unfollowing people on social media.
Yeah, that's the new way of breaking up.
That's a breakup.
Yeah.
Unfollowed you.
So tell me why Jhené would unfollow Big Sean if he was not getting his fucking meat rubbed by Nicole Scherzinger at the Oscars party with no cameras allowed.
But here's, okay.
That was detailed.
This is my question.
Does the unfollow matter if you're like downstairs in the living room and I'm upstairs in the bedroom?
That's even worse. Let me tell you something.
If I'm upstairs in the bedroom and Sin is in the kitchen or some shit and I just see I'm unfollowed, I'm running downstairs to where she is.
Okay.
Yeah, it matters.
Hell yeah.
It's a public signaling.
Yeah.
And you're in my house.
You have to follow me.
I don't know.
Maybe she's trying to spice things up.
We are in such a weird
era right now.
Tell me
I agree with you, but why do you think it's weird?
It's just weird the way shit is now.
It's just so fucking weird. The things that
people do and how you know about
someone's relationship and when they're broken
up and when you think there's trouble in the relationship.
It's just so weird.
This era is fucking weird, man.
The fact that unfollowing
is the stamp to end a
relationship is insane.
I disagree.
I totally disagree.
Good question, Parks.
Let me tell you why. No, I don't.
I don't have exes, but let me tell you why I disagree with
what y'all are saying. What's the old way
before social media? What was the old old way you walked away from each other no let me finish what i'm saying
what was the old way to fucking send a quick flare to the other people you might want to fuck
that hey it could be happening soon hey it's looking a little rough on this end
today that's all that unfollow is there.
That's all that is.
Nah, you would just, I mean, back in, you know,
you would just not see the people, like, the couple with each other.
No, that's not true.
And that's why I don't talk to you,
because now you're lying on our generation.
Which is me.
That's how I was.
You just didn't see niggas together.
You didn't see.
No way.
Or he would tell you, like, nah, we ain't together no more.
Oh, please.
Niggas just kick their girls back into their girl best friend or some shit.
That's how they knew back then that it was trouble in Paris.
Yo, you and your girl good?
Man, nah, man, let me tell you what she did.
Like, that's how you knew.
Yeah, but you would-
Today, you could kind of avoid all of that.
Well, are you talking like high school era or like when you were older than that?
Talking about pre-internet era.
Okay, because I was in high school. I dropped out October of freshman year. High school era or when you were older than that? Talking about pre-internet era.
Okay, because I was in high school.
I dropped out in October of freshman year.
I meant that era, not when you were actually educated in the almanac.
You'd publicly ignore them.
You'd find the spot where everyone was at and then publicly ignore them,
which wasn't really ignoring them. Y'all show up to events not together.
Yeah, you just go to where
people will see you
not fucking with her.
Do you guys care about,
do you guys care about
Bernice and Offset?
Bernice being pregnant?
Deeply.
She's pregnant.
We're 40 minutes in
on relationship bullshit.
Sounds like a Joe Bundle
to me.
She is.
Very funny, Parks.
She's pregnant about Offset or Quavo?
Mo, you have to start looking at your phone
You just said Bernice and Quavo
I mean Offset
I didn't mean Offset
Oh, um
I don't think that's true
Yeah, you don't think anything is true
That I don't think
What do you believe in?
I don't think Bernice is pregnant by Quavo
I don't believe that
Unfathomable to believe she could be pregnant by the guy she's been fucking for nine months.
I mean, but she's also been fucking with other guys for months and never got pregnant.
I don't see her getting pregnant by Quavo.
I don't see it.
I hope.
I mean, I would hope not, but I don't know.
What does that mean?
Listen, Mo.
Wait, what does I would hope not mean?
Do you think he's not a fit father?
She can't get pregnant by a homeboy?
He's just so much younger than she is.
I don't, like, Quavo might be close to her daughter's age
I would say that for sure
that's just a little weird to me
I'm the last one to talk about this topic
and it's like her daughter's pregnant
she just had the baby I think
yeah so now her
daughter's uncle
her grandfather's
that happens kind of often
does it?
the grandkid and the kid being born
around the same time?
The grandkid being older than the uncle?
I've seen it.
I've seen it, but I wouldn't say common.
You've seen it?
I've seen it, hell yeah.
A couple of my good friends are...
Well, you're from the sticks up north.
I'm from jail.
I can't see that.
That's not common.
I've seen uncles and nephews be swapped older.
I've seen nephews be older than uncles.
That's crazy.
What are you guys' feelings?
Back to Instagram etiquette.
I'm all over the place a little bit.
What are you guys' feelings about your friends liking your significant other's pictures on Instagram?
Your male friends. Depends on the picture. I can't's pictures on Instagram? Your male friends.
Depends on the picture.
Come on, Rory and Parks.
It depends on the picture.
Yeah. Alright, tell me more.
If it's a lusty picture, don't like that shit.
My girl doesn't post lusty pictures, but hypothetically.
Yeah, that's why I'm going to have to go up hypothetical.
If it's some shit that's a little provocative... Well, tell me what a lusty picture would be.
You know, some cleavage.
With some arms showing.
I know how men are.
She's got her ankle out.
Doesn't have her ski mask on.
The paper bag I bought her.
The phone I broke.
She posted a photo.
I'm serious. Come on, for real.
It would have to be a little...
I mean, cleavage is fine.
Wholesome pictures I like. I don't follow many a little, I mean, cleavage is fine. Wholesome.
Wholesome pictures I like
of my friends.
I don't follow many
of my friends' girlfriends,
but those that I do,
if it's a wholesome picture
or it looks like they're
trying to get some
advertising off or something,
I'll like that.
But then I'd have to think,
what if I was dating a girl
whose profession was
advertising?
Well, you know what I'm saying?
They're advertising that ass.
That's what they're advertising.
That's who the fuck you need.
Advertising. I follow this dude, right? But again, they're advertising that ass that's what they advertise who the fuck you mean advertising
I follow this dude
right
but again
this may just be a disconnect
in niggas that's old
and today's niggas
I follow this dude
well I used to follow
this dude on Twitter
and
like
every time Sid
would post a picture
I guess it would be
one of those
lusty pictures like y'all say.
But I don't.
I'm not looking at it like that.
But he would tweet or write shit like, oh, man, if I were Joe, Joe, I would be going ham.
Wait, do y'all have somewhat of an association with each other?
Like, not your friend.
Not beyond social media.
No, I've never met the gentleman
I've never seen him
We follow each other
And we speak to each other
He's in his rights then
It's still crazy but I can understand
It's wild
It's fucking wild
It's fucking wild
Thank God Stavon is here
I'm looking around
No it's wild but I'm so good. Thank God Stavon is here. I'm looking around. Am I amazing?
No, it's wild, but I can understand.
What?
That's all right.
Just because y'all follow each other, you can't turn it.
He don't know you.
That nigga don't know you.
You ain't his man.
Mo, you can't.
I don't give a fuck.
You shouldn't say to no nigga whether you know him or not.
Oh, that's true.
You should not say to a man, yo, if I were you.
That's true.
That's true.
So then what are y'all talking?
That's what I just said.
And y'all saying, oh, that ain't your man.
What are y'all talking about?
We weren't looking into that.
I could see why he would be like always commenting on her picture.
No man should be saying that.
I wasn't sure that you were saying actual words that he was saying.
I thought you were saying he was complimenting.
No, saying if I was Joe
no but that's what I'm saying to y'all
I think that
in his brain he was
complimenting Joe that's what I'm saying
to y'all about the disconnect
I don't think that he thinks
that he thinks anything was wrong
with that statement
that's weird
it's weird. Yeah, he's a weirdo.
It's weird.
It's weird.
Well, you think everybody's weird,
but he's weird.
That was weird.
That's definitely weird.
I do think everybody's weird.
What was his at name?
I'm not saying it.
I don't think I know it. I don't think I know it offhand.
At weirdocreep92.
He runs the Sid and Joe account on Instagram.
Yeah, he's got a few underscores in this shit, I bet.
All the creeps got underscores somewhere.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you got three of them.
Okay, what else? Oh, creeps got on the score somewhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you got three of them. Okay, what else?
Oh, the iHeart Music Radio Awards.
Yeah.
I didn't need...
What were the big winners?
Yo, this podcast is hilarious.
Yo, we're dicks.
Like, we ain't never gonna get no ad.
Not with iHeart Radio.
No, that's for damn sure.
I don't know.
Who won a big winner?
Save on.
Chance won some shit.
They do a good festival.
Cardi won a bunch of shit, I think.
Yeah, she won like.
All right.
Nobody knows who won anything.
Nobody really cares.
Let's just not let people know how uninformed we are.
Let's talk about Cardi announcing her album date.
You believe it? I do. album date. You believe it?
I do.
Hell no.
I believe it.
I don't believe that shit for a second.
Okay, so let me...
I'm going to believe it.
Tell us why.
I'm going to believe it.
Next month?
April.
I think...
We are in the mid-March.
Yeah, I don't think...
Well, first of all, albums have much smaller rollouts than they used to.
That's true.
And Atlantic is not in a position now where they can push it.
They've been rolling her out for over a year.
When have they given her an album date, though?
They've been rolling her out.
She wrapped up in a rug?
How long can they roll her out?
There's really something wrong with you, man.
They've been rolling her out.
They have been rolling her out for a man long.
I mean, she's got a bunch of joints.
So tell me more about...
Because I'm going to counter every last thing that. I mean, she's got a bunch of joints. So tell me more about... They have never...
Because I'm going to counter every last thing that you're saying, but tell me anyway.
They've never announced a date on her before.
True.
So it's not like...
Not an album date.
Not an album date, yes.
We all know those artists that always announce dates and be like, that's going to be pushed.
We know.
We've been down this road before.
And I don't think Atlantic is in a space now with what they've done with her where they
can push it back.
They've needed an album from her
since maybe last month. And I don't think
they're going to take the risk of announcing
something and not going through with it.
I don't think Atlantic feels like that
at all. I don't think they felt like they needed an album
last month or last year from her.
I think they feel like they're right on time.
She did a whole montage of the hits
to open the show up.
And she kind of killed it, shit.
Yeah, I will say that Bruno record definitely spared her a lot of time.
Yeah.
Because that has to cook.
And the G's.
But I still think this was the quarter to do it in.
Do you think to wait till the summer for Cardi or set her up for the summer?
That's where she blew up, so shit.
I know that last week on VH1,
and this means nothing in the grand scheme of things,
but last week on VH1,
when they were teasing the Love & Hip Hop reunion,
after every commercial break, they kept teasing that a new Cardi video would premiere
the next week.
Cardi or Barty?
Barty on Cardi.
I don't know the exact name of the song,
but that's the video.
So then the next week came, and that didn't premiere at all.
But when I saw that commercial, I thought that was odd.
I thought it was odd that Cardi and her people would choose to premiere a video on VH1, the platform that she left.
That just seemed odd.
So the video never came out on that platform.
Who knows why, but that struck a chord with me.
That is what Cardi has been doing for the past nine months.
Maybe not with an album date, but she has been promising things and not delivering for nine months.
Freestyles, videos this entire time she has been make not making good on promises that
only she has said but yeah i'm about to say where did those come from from her live like it's not
an announcement that was backed by the label no it's not like no i played that little meek
intro of hers she was on live time out and today is today is tough to say that because every artist
makes their own announcements today there's nothing there's no announcement where we say
all right the label is doing that cardi b has been on a stage and made an announcement before
not an album announcement but she's been on award shows making announcements which i would assume
all right maybe the label something now
this time kaiser was in the audience so maybe that's a little different but i don't believe
this shit anyway i didn't even bring it up to spend a lot of time i don't believe for one second
that cardi b is putting out an album next month no way on god's green earth on what record
her buzz around now just her buzz she's not no way. No way. Atlantic did not spend all of this money building her and her buzz.
Summer release.
She seems like a summer release person.
I would see them setting her up for the summer.
Right.
Because she may still take some time to build records on the album.
I don't understand the language you use when you say setting her up for the summer.
They've been setting her up since last spring.
Well, with an album comes a lot more records that they can work for the summertime.
If you announce them in July, you're not really going for a summer record.
I'm asking you how much more money you expect the label to spend on setting up.
Well, they're done.
That's the part that fans fans never really get in into that part
atlantic has spent millions of dollars since last year promoting this young lady and do you think
here we are album time we need to pick something up they're not going in no conference room saying
all right let's invest more millions into more records. I wouldn't think. To that point, though, I don't think they would have not let her announce
and let that shit spread so far without their approval.
So do you think with what you just said,
they're going to take the risk of spending more money
to push an album further back and to lose more buzz?
Yeah, Atlantic has shown us time and time again
that they do not mind pushing an album back,
that they don't mind milking the singles and not giving you an album.
They don't mind that at all.
What artists recently, though?
Uzi.
Wiz.
Did he ever even announce an album?
Ty Dolla $ign.
Every artist.
Ty's been on top?
Ty, no, he was not.
He got pushed back.
He got pushed back.
That drop top, not drop top, I mean, Beach House 3.
The Beach 3?
3.
It was pushed back.
Okay, I thought that was on top.
No way.
Uzi, did Uzi ever even announce he was putting an album out?
All of those artists have.
Uzi took a long time.
I thought Uzi said he announced he wasn't putting an album out.
Uzi took a long time.
And then he announced he was, and then he still didn't until Atlantic.
I don't know.
That's their thing over there that they do.
Just with Cardi, I don't see them making an announcement like that for something so big
to push it back. Unless that's a way to continue buzz, but I don't see them making an announcement like that for something so big to push it back
unless that's a way
to continue buzz
but I don't see it
do you think
do you think they're
in the red
with what they've spent
no way
no
I don't think so either
so that's why
they may want to spend
some more money
no I don't think
they're in the red at all
I think they're highly
in the black
I think they're
way in the black
that's why they're not tripping
you're saying they're spending
all these millions of dollars to push Cardi but they're not in the red over it they're making but they're way in the back. That's what I'm saying. You're saying they're spending all these millions of dollars to push Cardi,
but they're not in the red over it.
They're making money.
They're profitable.
They'll be more profitable with an album that works.
I don't think she should ever put out an album.
I agree.
I think she should keep doing what she's doing.
Word.
I'm still not of the belief that everybody is waiting for an album from Cardi.
I'm not saying that to be offensive.
What I'm saying is there are album artists
and there are single artists.
I'm not certain that Cardi is an album artist.
Okay, I'll say this.
And if you look at the hype that people,
if you look at the hype machine,
the hype machine is going to always tell you
they want an album from people.
Yeah, of course. But I don't think the hype machine, the hype machine is going to always tell you they want an album from you. Yeah, of course.
But I don't think the hype machine listens to albums at all.
Especially if they're hearing Cardi, the Bardi Air Bardi, whatever that shit is called.
Does anybody love that record?
That record, they're sweeping under the rug without saying it.
It didn't click the way I predicted.
That tells me I don't necessarily want to hear a whole album.
But Cardi still built...
But she's great.
Of course, her superstardom went from Bodak Yellow and her singles.
But Cardi really did build her music career off doing a bunch of mixtapes.
Yeah.
So there is something to say that she built.
She put out a couple mixtapes that built herself up to people even wanting to accept Bodak Yellow.
I think she just called.
So I'm not going to say she's fully just a singles artist.
Of course, to the masses, her superstardom now started with that Bodak Yellow,
but she put some time in with actual projects that got her some buzz.
I believe now for one second that we're getting a Cardi B album next month.
Agreed.
That's definitely not happening.
I don't believe that.
And I don't give a fuck what she said, where she said.
I'm not wrong with it.
Did y'all hear the Drake and Lauren snippet?
No.
Lauren Hill? Lauren Hill Lauren Hill
What
Interesting
No I didn't
What timeline was that on
Oh man
Savon
How'd I miss that
What do y'all do during the week
Pull up the Drake and Lauren record
And listen to it yourself
How come y'all never see
Or know anything
Where did you see this
I didn't see this
Where did you hear this
Savon just
Find the clip
Of the biggest rapper in the world.
Find the clip of...
And Lauryn Hill.
And listen to it on your own time.
And don't play it for us.
I'm only telling him to find these things so y'all could be in for it.
You can't reverse the joke.
Was it dope?
It's hard for me to judge the audio on those.
But what I will say...
Let me tell you, Sam... Did you just hear Draft Day for the first time?
No, it wasn't Draft Day.
I got nothing on.
Google don't even know.
Google don't even know.
Joe, what record did you hear?
It wasn't Draft Day.
What snippet did you hear?
That shit was a mashup.
Where did you hear this at?
It was online.
Would you like me to stop
the podcast and try to find it?
No, it's an answer.
You don't have to stop.
And it wasn't draft day.
Was it Twitter or Instagram?
It was Twitter.
Search Twitter then.
That shit was fake.
Did you just hear draft day?
I heard Drake's voice
and Lauren's voice.
And what I will say
is it sounded better than...
I didn't like when Fab did that
killing me softly shit. Does anybody remember that record or am I going to be the only one giving opinions on that? what I will say is it sounded better than I didn't like when Fab did that Killing Me Softly shit
does anybody remember that record
or am I going to be the only one
giving opinions on that
I love that record
what record
you really don't like that record
no I didn't like that record
what record
I love that record
the Fab record
when he did
Killing Me Softly over
he had Shorty from Joe's album
Jazz
I love that record
oh on Shootout
so much time Shootout 2
yeah
yeah
oh that's weird I thoroughly I play that record oh on Shootout so much time Shootout 2 yeah oh that's weird
I thoroughly
I play that record often
alright here's the snippet
it's not weird
it doesn't have to be weird
it's not weird
because we have
a different taste in music
it's weird
not liking Fab
and Lauryn Hill together
alright we were going to
try to play the audio
for you guys
but it's trash
it's not CDQ
ah yeah you can't play anything that it's trash It's not CDQ Ah yeah
You can't play anything that's non-CDQ
Rest in peace
Non-CDQ
We need that flack
Those are some of my favorite times in hip hop
When niggas was throwing the CDQ phrase around
CDQ
We need the CDQ
Yeah
Yeah that was important
Um
What was I just
Uh what else
What other albums are coming out
Oh Drake album
Come on I wanna guess when these albums are coming.
We know a Drake album is coming.
We don't think a Cardi album is coming.
Kanye got to be coming soon, I would think, right?
Slow down.
Drake's coming when?
April?
Summer.
May.
Let's guess.
May.
Yeah, he can't come in April.
May, June.
No, he can't.
I like May.
I like May for Drake, too.
Yeah.
All right, Kanye has pink hair.
That definitely means music is coming.
Yes.
He's starting one of his manic episodes.
I hate it.
Can we just get the music, dog?
I don't pay attention to that shit.
Me either.
Yes, you do.
I really don't.
What he does in his personal life now.
Well, why not?
I'm about to paint you up against the stand ropes.
Why don't you pay attention to Kanye's pink hair?
This will be the stand ropes.
I generally used to like...
Wait, don't admit to it.
That's no fun.
I generally used to like Kanye's personality,
what he perceived as his personality,
and then this switch up.
I'm cool, man.
I just like your music,
even when you've done insane things off record.
Your music's still good to me,
so I'm only going to pay attention to that.
I don't need to know about your reality show life.
Did you see the Kanye bracket that's going around?
I did.
I actually thought it was, for the most part, pretty accurate.
Who won?
What song won?
It was just the bracket.
It wasn't.
Like winners.
I thought that was real stupid.
I think all in brackets that people are doing Are real stupid
Like us
Kanye
Well no
Our bracket was actually dope
And now I'm deterred
From doing it
Because everybody is doing
These stupid brackets
Like Kanye's best song
Drake's best song
90s R&B
Y'all are trash
The Drake one I saw
That went semi-viral
Today on the timeline
Had 10 bands
As a number one seed
So I
I immediately Immediately exited timeline had 10 bands as a number one seed so i i immediately
immediately exited from that one seed that's funny yeah that that's crazy kanye album is coming when
kim kim kim yeah he'll put that shit out tomorrow kim has been visible the hair is pink he's been in
a cave in iowa for a year recording.
Hopefully it's different woods. Him and Kid Cudi
are still friends. It has to drop while they're friends
still. Hopefully it's different woods
than Justin's woods.
No, he's not in Justin's woods. That's important to the Kanye
process. He does have to be cool with Cudi
for some shit to come. Yeah, so
that's what it is. I'm going to go with
I'm going to
go out on a limb and say July.
For Kanye?
Yes.
Not because I don't.
I think he's ready.
I think sooner than July.
I think he's ready right now.
I just think the maniacal genius that he is, now that he's done,
he's going to go try to figure out how to get the next phase rocking.
I don't think he's just dropping it.
I'm just talking shit.
This could be something.
Drake and Kanye go against each other
either same month or same release date.
I could see them doing that.
They're kind of friends now.
That could be the old way to get sales up.
What's up with you 27-year-old people
wanting to see these duels?
I like duels.
What will that do?
I hated that last Kanye 50 duel.
Oh, why?
I thought it was entertaining.
You said that like it just happened last summer.
Yeah, it was in 2007.
That's the last time I saw a duel.
Duel is just funny.
If you keep saying duel like that,
me and you are going to have a duel, right?
You all laugh at everything
and don't know anything happening in the world.
I'm so confused by y'all.
Duel.
A duel.
When was the last time
y'all saw a duel?
That was an important part
in hip-hop history,
that duel.
Yeah, and it was rigged.
Well, that's where shit changed
from gangster shit to...
That is where shit changed.
So then why would I want to see
another rigged duel?
I don't think that would be rigged,
but Drake and Kanye?
Stupid as hell.
Well, they live next door to each other.
So I could see them rigging.
Apple would win.
Oh, well, Apple's going to always win.
Apple's going to always win.
Exactly.
So why do we need to see a duel?
I got Kanye coming in.
When did I say?
July?
Yeah.
I'm going July.
Him and Jay still have to make up.
There's mad shit going on there
Kanye and Drake same month
my prediction
and I got Beyonce's album dropping before all these albums
interesting
because of the tour announcement
I had her album dropping soon
even before that information leaked
I just
I like to think
I have a pretty good
radar for when Beyonce
starts doing the most subtlest
of things like walking
like if she walks a certain way
she's letting you know
she's dropping soon like she's one of the people
that does that like really really well
and she's been doing it for a little while so I assumed
that music was coming
you think it'll be a Beyonce or a Beyonce and Jay project?
I think it'll be a Beyonce project.
Okay.
I don't think we're getting this famed Beyonce and Jay project that people keep talking about.
All of the collab projects that people have spoken about for quite some time, I don't believe they're coming at all.
Rory's still waiting for Cole and Kendrick.
Am I?
Rory's still waiting on Wayne and Jewels.
I am waiting for that. I'm waiting for Juelz. I am waiting for that.
I'm waiting for that too.
I'm waiting for that.
Y'all are such trash.
Waiting for Wayne and Juelz.
It's a good segue.
The police are waiting for Juelz.
Before we go on to there, Rihanna though.
I have Rihanna dropping some shit next month.
I don't know.
Some surprise shit.
Hold up now.
I got Rihanna next month.
Why?
It's been too long
for someone that has dropped an album
pretty much every year her whole career.
She has not.
There was only one time she didn't drop an album
every year for her entire existence.
How long was it between Anti and
was that Unapologetic?
That was the only stint.
Yeah, I don't think she's coming right back fenty doing too well hey not only is fenty doing doing extremely well she just announced that she was doing um
a lingerie line as well we're gonna see a lot so what so what i'm saying is rihanna's rihanna's
pretty busy i don't i just don't see it coming. Well, we should thank her because my whole Instagram feed was Fenty Makeup.
So now I'd imagine my whole Instagram feed now will be Fenty Lingerie.
Yeah.
And in my brain, I just feel like Beyonce and Rihanna stay away from each other's releases.
I don't ever remember a time where they released fairly close to one another.
Anti-Lemonade.. Anti and Lemonade.
Anti and Lemonade.
But remember, when that happened, Rory,
Rihanna was pushed back for a year with Anti.
Yeah.
She was dropping the Paul McCartney record.
She was dropping all these records, and she pushed it back.
And it just happened to land around Lemonade.
I don't think that was intentional.
I think she was trying to binge get that shit out.
Yeah, now Rihanna, people forget because Anti was so great. There was a couple records that was intentional. I think she was trying to binge get that shit out. Yeah, now Rihanna,
people forget because Anti was so great.
There was a couple records
she was trying.
Shit, Bitch Better Have My Money
did not work for the first
couple months.
They worked the shit
out of that record.
I'm surprised that wasn't
on Anti.
I like that record.
I do too.
It's great, but
trust me, it didn't
connect the way
the end result did.
Quick sidebar. Don't kill me here beehive
man no no you you remember last week when when we were trying to figure out we were trying to
pinpoint our issue with the top off record and i said that my issue is the whole thing just sounds
dated until beyonce comes on uh-huh uh I listened to it all week because Sins played it all week.
Beyonce too sounds dated.
I listened to it again and I felt kind of the same way.
I don't know about dated.
I just.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Dated is the exact word I am attempting to use.
When you take away the fact that it's Beyonce, I don't know who wrote that for her.
But what is that line that's, it's Beyonce. I don't know who wrote that for her. But
what is that line that's
cringeworthy to me?
My ice,
my bills,
my cash,
my ice, my body,
my bills,
all real. I'm a triple threat.
Bars.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Bars. I don't know what you're talking about. Bars.
All right.
All right.
All right.
Listen.
Listen.
That song also has...
I don't ever want to hear...
Never mind.
One day I'm going to get some...
You're going to stand on the ledge by yourself with that one, buddy.
Y'all are so pussy.
So there's no dated slang in the Beyonce verse.
Honestly.
I don't like her verse that much.
I call me old fashioned.
I want to hear a whole between skirt skirts. I don't like her verse that much. I call me old fashioned. I want to hear a whole between skirt skirts.
I don't like that record.
At all.
I like skirt skirt.
I don't like the record.
I like whole between skirts.
I don't want to hear
whole between skirts.
I like skirt skirt.
That almost went under the radar.
I like skirt skirt.
I would have repeated it for you.
Man, get the fuck out.
I like skirt skirt.
I do like skirt skirt. I don't know why everything I say is skirt skirt i would have repeated it man get the fuck out i like skirt skirt i do like skirt skirt
i don't know why i don't ever say skirt skirt like that it's in all the hottest rap songs
why would i not say yeah but you can't say it in conversation you have to say like rory just
said he doesn't like jay in between skirt skirts and i thought that you know what
i thought that jay sounded great in between the skirt skirts.
No, his verse was fire.
No, I like the way that Jay skirts.
Yo, and... Jay probably has the best skirt in the game.
Underrated.
No, he didn't say...
Better than me goes his skirt.
Better than future...
I like Jay's skirt.
Sounds like a real East Coast...
He didn't say skirt.
He's probably saying some super fly shit.
Yeah, like Jay does it cooler.
These little niggas.
Oh, wait.
Another quick sidebar.
Did y'all watch D-Rock's interview with Elliot and B-Dot on Rap Radar?
I watched it today.
I watched it.
And boy, that was a great interview.
Shout out to B-Dot and Elliot and D-Rock.
But Biggie couldn't drive.
That's what I learned from that interview.
Man, New Yorkers can't drive.
No, no, no, no.
But that fucked my whole week up.
Why?
Was there ever even footage of Big behind the wheel?
Closest we've seen of Big behind the wheel is in the video.
The hypnotized with a boat.
Yeah, press the cat.
So that does nothing to y'all that Biggie couldn't drive.
It's somebody else That can't drive
The king of New York
A lot of people can't drive
He made partying bullshit
You don't really drive in New York
And he died at 24
I could see by like 28
Like alright fam
You're rich and you're 28
You should get your license
No that's when you don't drive no more
When you're rich
I'm not paying all that for cars
That I'm not driving
I never understood that shit
I have a driver But come on I'm paying this much $ For cars that I'm not driving I never understood that shit I get to have a driver
But come on
I'm paying
This much
$300,000
For a fucking
Lamborghini
I'm not gonna drive
How did y'all learn to drive?
Uh
Just
My mom I guess
How did I learn?
I don't know
Did someone actually teach you
How to drive
Or did you just watch and learn?
I watched a lot of
I watched
I learned a lot of driving
By watching
But I definitely like
First time you was behind
The wheel was when?
I stole my parents car Oh I was a kid By driving by watching, but I definitely like... First time you was behind the wheel was when? I stole my parents' car.
Oh, I was a kid.
By myself?
Me too.
I stole Debbie's car.
Behind the wheel by myself?
I think I drove me and my brother got drunk and I had to drive home.
So D-Rock was telling the story about how Big was in the passenger seat and he was driving
and Big forgot his
asthma pump upstairs.
So D-Rock ran back upstairs to get the asthma pump.
And when he came back down, Big wasn't there because he hopped in the driver's seat and
he drove around a block.
And in the process, he hit like eight or nine cars just driving around the one block.
So then I just smiled because Big was one of my favorite rappers ever.
And then I was fucked up about it.
And then I judged him.
And I was like, how the fuck do you hit eight cars just driving around the block?
And then I remembered my very first time driving a car.
And it was stolen from a friend of mine.
And it was snowing in Queens.
And I was going to see a chick.
And I was driving two miles per hour.
And I hit every car in front of me.
So I could see how it's done.
The day I got my license I got into action.
Well driving in the snow
and Dub B was
asleep and so I didn't know that the
Saturn breaks in the
Queens snow. It was the
two door Saturn. It was all bad.
Do they still make Saturns?
I don't think so.
Yeah.
They make Saturns.
They do?
I think they do.
Yo, y'all don't know shit.
How bougie are y'all?
I haven't seen any Saturns.
I live in New York.
I don't have a car.
And let me tell you something.
I'm tired of that line, too.
That's super trash.
What?
That line is trash, and I'm not really going to say for men, but the whole New York, I'm
in New York, so I don't know how to drive.
That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
I think anybody outside of New York doesn't know how to drive.
No.
It's just not.
I live in New York, so I'm so reliant on our fucking trustworthy train system that I do not know how to drive.
I'm not talking about owning a car.
I'm talking about the adult women and men who do not know how to operate. I'm not talking about owning a car. I'm talking about the adult women and men
who do not know
how to operate a vehicle.
It's a lot of them.
In New York.
Yeah, that is disgusting.
After 25,
you definitely have to.
I get like 22,
that type age.
When did you get your license?
16.
All the white people.
The whites and Asians.
They was laced at 16 and 15.
I was laced.
Laced.
They were laced.
Yo, Mo, what's up?
You got a beef with me?
No.
Honestly.
I have beef with nobody.
You say that when you have beef with people.
I don't have beef with nobody.
Do you have tension with me?
No.
Do you have something you want to get off your chest?
No, man.
I'm just laughing at your lingo.
But you've been doing that for about two months.
You've been doing that for like two years.
Skirt, skirt.
You're laughing, but I'm mad that I was never cool enough to put a skirt in a verse.
You never skirted.
Well, you've never really rapped about it.
I never spelled anything either.
That's the other thing.
I always hated when people spelled things if they weren't Biggie.
Okay. Pussy killed
spelling independent
Fab spilled
killed
the wrong spelling
of fabulous
well that kind of helps me know
how to correctly spell fabulous
I just know it's not
F-A-B-O-L-O-U-S
every time I'm correctly
spelling fabulous
I have to say F-A-B-O
to know it to you.
Because then I get confused between how to spell fabulous, how to, fab spells fab, and how the cleaning fabuloso spells it.
Where are you spelling fabulous and not referring to the rapper?
I say fabulous.
I have an extensive vocabulary.
Not bad, bro.
I don't think a man should ever use fabulous.
Fabulous.
That is a word
I think we've thrown away,
thrown to the lions
50 years ago.
I think we need
a whole podcast
on the things you think
men shouldn't do.
I think we do, too.
That's a good afterthought.
That would be great.
Yeah, but you have
to get him to talk.
You have to get him
to actually participate
and say something.
When does a man
ever use the word fabulous?
Other than that's crazy.
When does a man
ever use the word fabulous?
That is crazy
to use the word fabulous as a man. As a man. As a man ever used the word fabulous? Other than that's crazy. When has a man ever used the word fabulous? That is crazy to use the word fabulous as a man.
As a man.
As a man?
I'm never fabulous.
You've never been fabulous?
Okay, I don't know how to respond to this or segue from it.
So, y'all, what do you say back to, yo, if you a man and you use the word fabulous, you what?
I'd like to know some scenarios where you've used it yeah that's that's that's a great question word yes fabulous yes all right
well let me think okay i think i need you to answer this i need to know when you've used the
word not talking about music rapping none of that shit i probably said that in response to how's
your day going you've had a fabulous day before?
You killed me for wonderful,
and you were saying fabulous this whole time?
You've had a fabulous day?
What was so fabulous about your day?
Like, what was happening?
I don't recall right now.
Today isn't as fabulous.
Okay, cool.
You've had a fabulous day, Parks?
No.
Okay.
You, Rory, you had a fabulous day? No, bro. Fellas, Eric, no? Yvonne, you ever had a fabulous day, Parks? No. Okay. You, Rory, you ever had a fabulous day?
No, bro.
Fellas, Eric, no?
Yvonne, ever had a fabulous day?
Erickson is his name.
Yo, E, Darryl, Darryl.
Yo, got it on the camera.
Yvonne don't even know niggas' names that he do a podcast.
I thought his name was Eric.
Are you done with this fabulous deep dive?
I've been done with the word fabulous for years,
but apparently it's still a part of your extensive
vocabulary.
Oh, shit. It's mad little news tidbits
to get here. Bow Wow Mrs. Chris Brown.
What?
Bow Wow Mrs. I'm telling you what I wrote down.
Bow Wow Mrs. Chris Brown. Mo, you don't know that? You don't know anything.
Bow Wow Mrs. Chris Brown.
Mo, you don't know anything.
Alright, no. Let's talk about something serious because y'all have joked You don't know anything Alright no For real
Alright let's talk about
Something serious
Because y'all have joked around
For too long now
We're 71 minutes in
And we haven't touched
Joel's case shit
We haven't touched shit
And then Rory and Morgan
Get up
I gotta go man
Joel
He's in custody right
Yeah I think he's in custody
Taylor caught him
No he turned himself in
He should have kept running You know the fuck He shouldn't have Yeah he I think he's in custody, yeah. Taylor caught him? Mm-hmm. No, he turned himself in. He should have kept running.
No, the fuck he shouldn't have.
Yeah, he shouldn't have
ran in the first place.
I got to know what he's...
No.
What would you say?
I didn't know
what was in there.
I can see that.
Maul, Maul.
You never had something
in your carry-on
like in one of the compartments
that you didn't know was there?
Yeah, like a lighter.
Yeah, not a lighter.
Yeah, not a lighter.
Yeah, had a hammer in there. Had a hammer. Yeah, not a lighter. Yeah, how the hammer work.
How the hammer, you know what I'm
saying?
All right, so now my question
to you, Maul.
That's six ounce fluid.
May have had an Adderall in
there.
After you tell them, yo,
I forgot.
What do you think is the next
step?
You're going to, listen.
Do you think that helps?
Here's the thing.
That exonerates you?
Listen to what I'm saying.
You know what exonerates me?
You're going to jail anyway. Anyway. Yeah yeah so you might as well run and have some fun
nah man fuck that well i gotta you're going to jail anyway so admit to it nah that's mine but
i forgot no more yeah i'm gonna try to get a beer you running out of the airport and being like
i'm looking for you for two days is doing what i'm gonna go have a beer and have a good time
as joel santana. I want to know the
moment he got in that cab or whatever he did to
dip. No pun.
What was his thought? Like, alright, what's my
plan now? Where's the weed?
Yeah, right.
I need a drink and some weed.
Straight to your lawyer's office.
I would have just walked away from the
bag and went through security.
That's not even my shit.
Yeah, right.
They went right to them 300 cameras they had on you.
I grabbed it by accident.
My thing is this.
None of us believe that Joel Santana was actually trying to board an airplane with a firearm.
I think he forgot.
That's what I'm saying.
We all do believe that he forgot.
Yes, that it was in the bag.
I could see that.
And that has happened before where niggas just forget shit sometimes.
I understand that.
Just got to be a little more careful with that.
A firearm.
I mean, who packed this bag?
He didn't take a gander in the bag.
If you watch Love & Hip Hop, his girl didn't even let him go to the studio.
He was about to get on a plane.
Well, let me put this handgun in here.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
That's hilarious.
All right,
so he turned himself in.
My new question is,
like,
is he going to,
granted,
he forgot something's bad,
but is he going to face
like serious time
for this?
Like,
what are the charges?
Do we think it was registered?
No.
I mean,
I don't think.
That's probably a charge,
man.
I don't know.
I don't think the guy
that made this
is registering
his firearms. You don't think the guy that made this is registering his firearms.
You don't think the serial number was clear?
No.
No.
It wasn't?
Made some scratches on it?
Yeah.
No.
I used to really like this song.
You still like this song.
I still do.
As soon as it came on, I got hyped.
No, this is a classic.
You know what I mean?
I still like this. I think it would still. You know what I mean? Come on.
I still like this.
I think it would still be a hit today.
For sure.
Yeah.
I would judge the kids.
I would judge the kids if they didn't fuck with that record today.
It's a timeless bop.
Shit, I disagree.
Wait, are Hammond coming back?
And Dipset, that sound is kind of the father of all this shit now.
But that's a long, deep dive.
That sound.
That bop. That's kind of
Southern-esque bop.
I agree. You are not wrong.
The father of all this shit.
I want to
agree, but I want to consult with some other people first
because people already think I have some type of New York bias
when it comes to...
I have absolutely a New York bias.
The moment I said Dipset really helped put Lil Wayne on,
they murdered me.
That's wild.
Yeah, but that's true.
To us, yeah.
That's true.
To us, yeah.
That is a true statement in New York.
In New York only.
But, you know, the people in the South,
they like to disregard that small tidbit
because Atlanta in the South is running shit today.
But they weren't then. That's and to get poppin then you had to go through new york but he had oh they did shortly after no if he had a million no no of course i'm talking about up north
gravitating to wayne that's the solo artist up north accepting him that That was through Dipset. Okay. That was through the affiliation, the wallet, biker chains,
the fucking all that funny looking shit that was going on back then.
I could say that the same way that when I look at Khaled,
I can see remnants of Ross and Khaled.
Wayne back then was, he had some remnants of some other people.
Drew Ells being one of them, mainly.
Yeah, sure.
I see you got your Tims on today, too.
Cam, huh?
I see you got your Tims on today, too.
Two.
Who else has Tims on?
I always have Tims on.
Two, as in you're speaking as a New Yorker.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I put some.
You got your 35 belows on.
I put some Tims on Lexington today, too.
Nice.
It's in a real New York type of vibe and spirit.
Yeah, we need to get him some beef and brocks, too.
Do y'all care?
He has some.
Do y'all care what happens to him?
Wait, has he worn my Nike suit I gave him?
He probably can't fit it yet.
He can't fit it yet.
When he's four.
Gotcha.
I was thinking for the long run.
When he's four.
Rory buys my son a Nike, what is it?
One of those drug dealer suits.
Yeah, but it's a onesie.
What is it?
Tech fleece?
Yeah.
That's what Nike puts on shit to make all the hood niggas get really excited about paying $500.
Tech fleece.
Somebody tell me what tech fleece is and what it does.
Yeah, nothing fleece about a tech fleece.
I don't understand niggas.
Honestly, I'm confused.
That confuses me.
Icing out his Apple Watch confusing me.
That was it.
That was the topic, mo.
What?
It was ices, iced out Apple Watch, and niggas running around doing fancy shit to an Apple
Watch, looking like fucking utter buffoons.
Why does Ice have ice on his Apple Watch?
And why is he walking around
talking into his Apple Watch?
I'm judging every one of you niggas
that are running around
talking to the top of your wrist.
I used to have one.
It was the most useless thing on my wrist ever
and I used to wear rubber bands on my wrist.
Most useless thing I ever had on my wrist.
Oh, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
I was that guy.
Hold up, man.
Hold up.
We got to air on that one.
I thought I was bodying the outfit
when the rubber band was on the wrist.
And when it wasn't hanging too much.
When I got a hold of that Lance Armstrong rubber band.
You were living strong.
Oh, you had me. Come on, come on. I lived living strong. Oh, you hell yeah.
Come on, come on.
I lived with you.
I saw it, nigga.
Every nigga had a Lance Armstrong
Livestrong rubber band.
Yo, we are such idiots and fools.
That shit was hard.
Yeah, but that nigga
was scamming and robbing us.
He didn't even have cancer.
Lance Armstrong running,
I got more cancer than him.
And he running around
talking about
Livestrong
nigga fuck you
so a billion dollars
worth of rubber bands
that's legendary
I'm so glad Nike
got rid of Lance
that's legendary
a billion dollars
worth of rubber bands
yeah he was
he need
that needed
its own American Greed
episode
what Lance Armstrong did
oh shit
speaking of that type of shit
Martin Shkreli
he got seven years
for having that Wu-Tang album
and that, what other album he got?
The Wayne album?
The Wayne, yeah.
Which, that one I don't believe.
I don't believe that he has Carter V.
That might have been a new transaction.
Because every time he got a chance
to rub that Wu album in our face, he did.
That's true.
And then I knew of him as the guy
who rubbed the Wu album in people's faces
until I watched American Greed
and saw that he was the guy with the
medicine and he took the $7 shit
and rose it to $450.
And then, yeah, it was a lot
going on. They wanted him to fuck out of here.
Yeah, he got seven years. Got it.
OJ, have we seen
OJ? Have you guys seen the OJ
interview? I did see it. It was one of the
wildest things I think I've ever seen in my life.
He did it. Yeah, he did it.
No, he did it.
He did it.
He did it.
Yo, come on.
You can't trick me with the fake hypothetical.
How do you hypothetically see me?
Hypothetically, yeah.
I grabbed the knife off the front of the seat.
Get the fuck out of here.
You did it, man.
Because I always kept the knife under the seat.
Yeah.
OJ was bugging.
Dog, he talked about how he felt after he did it in regular person.
Right.
Yeah, he kept bouncing back. Yeah, he he did it in like regular person yeah he definitely first of all why on earth are
you hypothetically killing the mother of your kids yeah even if even if for some godforsaken
reason he was not uh uh guilty of it why would you have to be a different kind of fucked up
to go into that you'd have to be like someone that would murder your wife y'all not listening
he did it he did, I'm with you.
No.
No, he did do it.
He did.
But listen.
So the interview was a little strange.
Well, a lot strange.
But just last week, I was repping for OJ a little bit.
Like I said, that was fucked up there, Fox.
A little bit.
I mean, I think it's fucked up that you're going to put out some old footage.
We know he took some money to do an interview when times were hard.
We know that.
We know that.
So I get why he did the interview.
Why it's being released all of these years later, I mean,
you can answer that on your own time.
The reason why I feel like OJ did it not even being funny is because when you
look at the pattern of NFL players now that have committed know committed crimes and domestic violence
and these things
PTSD
yeah it's not far-fetched
yeah CTE
it's not far-fetched
I mean it's really not
running back
yeah like we
it's not far-fetched
like we definitely see
this pattern
he took more than
20 minutes of hits
I'll tell you that
couldn't resist
I saw after the interview went off they put out some old clip of the girl the
woman who did the interview where she said when the camera stopped rolling and i have it here
somewhere but i don't want to waste time trying to find it when the camera stopped rolling oj said
he had a surprise for me and i'll tell you i was genuinely surprised
um and then they showed it and it's oj knocking on her door and then she opens the door and he
has a knife and he starts going like this shut the fuck up i'll find it if you don't believe
this exists this exists wait there's footage of him doing that yes wait he had a knife on set
after he beat the murder rap with a knife why do you have knives okay get away from knives no this was after the
interview no she went to a little office or whatever and he went not i got a surprise for
you after the show you bring it to me knocked on the door and that was his surprise him with a knife
doing stabbing motions that's not funny no i saw that and I said, oh, okay, he did that.
I mean, I knew he did it, but now you're...
Show that to them, Savant.
Yeah, he definitely did it.
The two people that never see anything.
So now there's that.
Also, who was the hypothetical person that they said...
Charlie.
First of all, mind you, the most documented case to history
there's been
a million documentaries
that cover the whole
fucking thing on the news
no one's ever heard
of Charlie
where is Charlie
where is he
why is OJ the only one
that knows about Charlie
cause Charlie don't exist
but wait
Charlie is him
he is Charlie
Charlie's his middle name.
Orenthal Charlie Simpson.
You can't even trust no nigga named Orenthal.
That's too hard to say.
You only need Orenthal when your tooth is hurting.
That was pretty funny.
That was funny.
No, listen.
So, listen.
If I knew nothing else about this case, this is what OJ said.
OJ said.
OJ said, these are his words, not verbatim, but his words. OJ said he was madly in love with Nicole and he was jealous and vindictive and possessive.
Well, those are not his words, but he was clearly controlling and possessive.
He said she was cheating on him.
He went by the house to talk.
she was cheating on him.
He went by the house to talk.
Heard some commotion,
like sex,
and then left.
No, prior to that,
he said,
I got accused of stalking her,
so I went by myself to her house
and tapped on her window
while she was having sex.
He tapped on the window
while she was having sex.
Now, I've done that before
to some of my friends
just to like laugh at them.
But you can't do that
to your estranged wife
who you think is cheating.
Yeah.
So if you go to your wife's,
if you see your wife having sex
through a window,
what do you do?
What do I do?
I'm probably going to call
a friend of mine, Vent.
Named Charlie.
Oh, look how fast, look how fast. These niggas thinking the same lies going to call a friend of mine, vent named Charlie. Oh,
look how fast,
look how fast he niggas think of the same lies.
You need a friend.
You need a friend.
Definitely need a friend.
Charlie was the lie.
You need a,
you need a friend.
I don't know what I'm doing,
but I ain't rolling with the story of he went over there,
seen her having sex with somebody and then left.
No,
that definitely didn't.
I don't even know why
he thinks that story
is okay to tell.
As a man,
you can't see your wife
having sex
through a window
and just leave and walk away.
That's impossible.
But it was his ex-wife
at that time, right?
Yeah.
Well, they were separated.
Separated.
Yeah, but even so,
you're still going to
make your presence known.
He said he tapped on the window
to let him know what it was
and then walked away.
He tapped on the window, huh?
Okay.
That nigga's nuts. Nuts.
Like scary
nuts. Scary nuts.
Different type of...
You know what's funny though?
I mean, nigga's been talking about this
same case for over 25 years.
It's crazy.
Alright, well, that's it, man. OJ did that shit.
You heard it here.
You heard it here.
You heard it on Fox.
I get why Fox did that little in-between shit
with Chris Darden and all them
to keep people viewership
and make that shit go two hours for advertising.
But that shit looked like some public access shit
from 06.
I like that.
I'll be honest.
I enjoyed that part.
I enjoyed that they cut away from OJ saying the wildest shit ever to just see four people's expressions that were similar to mine.
I wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one that heard some wild shit.
So when the camera panned to them, I was like, thanks, Barbara.
Yes.
He should not have said that shit.
I knew it wasn't just me.
I appreciate it.
Chris Darden's sitting there with the eye-eat-ass face like,
come on, sir.
I told y'all this fucking 25 years ago.
The fuck, man?
Oh, Chris Darden.
Y'all think OJ had help, though?
Yeah, I think there was probably someone else there.
I saw.
But who?
Probably not Charlie.
I have a theory.
Well, no, it's not my theory.
I watched the doc, and it was their theory.
Bad YouTube docs?
I thought that not enough people saw it, so I could steal their theory.
That's being a good journalist, by the way.
That's what I think.
They said that...
Was it OJ's son?
I was going to say, this is the son theory.
This is the son theory. The son theory. They just pulling everybody into this shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if I'm going to give OJ's son? I was going to say, this is the son theory. This is the son theory.
Son theory.
They just pulling everybody into this shit.
I don't know if I'm going to give OJ's.
He was never in the NFL.
The son, I don't think, was he?
What the hell does that have to do with anything?
It's CTE, man.
OJ's got CTE.
Every murder has been from an NFL player?
Well, no.
No, in this particular case, I think OJ's got some brain damage.
Can you get CTE from somewhere else?
Boxing.
So why do I only hear about it with football?
I mean, it's the only real sport where people of that size are running into each other at full speed.
It's such a physical sport.
You don't even watch it.
Shut up.
I don't.
It's a physical sport.
It's too dangerous.
It is, though.
All right.
Let's get into the Royce freestyle.
Flex.
Killed it.
CTE.
I don't even know how to introduce topics anymore.
What do y'all want to discuss seriously?
I said he killed it.
I'm here.
How did you feel?
Of course you feel like Royce killed it because he killed it.
I do feel like he killed it.
Yeah, he did kill it.
Will that opinion change if...
Wait, let's talk about it.
Some of those verses are on the Prime album.
Correct.
I understand that.
Right.
I understand it.
As a rapper.
Yes.
Yeah.
Will that change anything about the freestyle for other people?
And then should it? No.
I don't think so. Because now Freestyles
Anyways Now, I want to see everyone
write their freestyles. I don't want to see anyone actually
freestyle. So if it's something that
Royce wrote down, I don't care.
Let's stop it right there because no freestyle has ever
been a freestyle. So I'm saying
if he already wrote it and rapped it on an album
I haven't heard yet,
it doesn't do much for me.'s still amazing to me okay i'm i'm in a different uh the thing about it is i think we had this conversation before where um
this generation of rappers i respect a little more than the past because you know you could you'll cut his mic off you would
be able to you would be able you would be able to go on a promo run back in like the early 90s
and spit the same yeah verse oh yeah it used to be all across the country and nobody would know
like we wouldn't know what rappers were spitting on la radio we wouldn't know what they were
spitting in texas and you know we wouldn't know now with
everything being so viral and you know footage coming out immediately i think rappers are held
to a higher standard like if we heard those bars like even though we didn't hear these bars because
they're on the album the album didn't come out yet right so i kind of understand that but friday by
the way friday yes friday but for me somebody like Royce, I just expected him to just have a set, like bars,
and just go up there and kill Flex with that.
Wasn't on the album, wasn't heard before.
Just because I think Royce is just that much of a lyrical MC.
You know what I'm saying?
Where it's just like he can have bars for days.
He replied to that on Twitter, and he said that unfortunately he doesn't
that's a luxury like he doesn't have everything that he writes is to something today and that's
why i said i do understand that it's somebody who works as constant constantly as royce does
he's got prime 2 coming friday he's got his solo album coming shortly after that i assume
i haven't got a date for been about it when does Royce have
time and he's such a and write 10 minutes of bars specifically for flex just to throw away
yeah yeah no I understand it but I hold him I'm I don't I'm gonna always hold him to that
like I want bars that's not you know I mean that you could just throw away yeah I get it too but
in the past
in the early 2090s
there was a lot of
if you go back on YouTube
and find some of those freestyles
you'll be like
oh I heard that verse
on a classic album
all of them
oh yeah
for sure
it happens
it definitely happens
like yeah
every rapper
it's a common occurrence
I was asking
I was asking y'all
how do you think
fans would feel about it?
Because fans are not normally the most rational of people when it comes to their favorite artists.
Yeah.
So, I mean, I hope that for them doesn't take Sting off of the freestyle.
I don't think it will.
I mean, everybody's done that.
What Royce did, every rapper's done that.
DMX, Big Pun, Mos Def, Cannabis Freestyle.
They're all in the booth.
It's one of the most classic freestyles.
All those verses were from something.
Yeah, exactly.
It happens.
It's not like...
Me, personally, I'm just saying, I'm going to always just hold Royce to a different...
Because that's just me, personally.
Yeah, I don't disagree.
I remember when Pun, Nori, Cannabis, and DMX went to the radio.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
No, I just thought that.
That doesn't, that doesn't,
I feel like that doesn't happen anymore.
Well, that can't, that can't, that can't happen.
Well, to the kids, they don't care about the radio.
Well, the radio is a dying format, one.
And two, you know what?
Let me not even say that.
Because the niggas that could rap be trying to rap together.
They do.
Like Cole, Drake,
Kendrick, fucking who else?
The Badasses. They're not going to do a radio show.
They're not going to just pop up at a radio
station and say, let's get off.
I wasn't going in order.
The Badasses is funny.
I meant Joey Badass. That's what I meant.
I meant Joey.
Joey and the Badasses.
That'd be a hilarious 90s alternative rock band. Joey and the Badasses. That'd be a hilarious 90s alternative rock band.
Joey and the Badasses.
I definitely did say Drake, Cole, and Kendrick.
You know, the Badasses.
The Badasses.
Come on, stop repeating everything I said.
Okay, my bad.
I don't know where we're going now.
What was that? What was we just talking about? Royce rapping. Okay, yeah, all right. I don't know where we're going now. What was that?
What was we just talking about?
Royce rapping.
Okay, yeah, all right.
Royce rapping.
Now, Rap Radar interview.
All right, hold on.
That's two plugs for Elliot in them.
That's a lot, man.
You work for Elliot.
Shut up.
It's a fucking Rory talk, right?
He just did a whole Elliot playlist.
Okay, now.
This is a story that will go down in the love of the pop history books.
Time to really put things to bed.
Damn, I thought that clip was longer than that.
Time to play it different.
Was this a case of Mendeecees having his cake and eating it too?
Yes.
Because when he wasn't with Yandy, was he with Erica?
When he wasn't with Erica, would he be back with Yandy?
Because if both women carried a term, the pregnancies would have some overlap.
Okay, now.
Royce Da 5'99 on rap radar
Ramon you said you saw this interview right
Rory did you see this interview
I did
Parks did you see it
I know we've had this discussion
the discussion right
we've had this talk here before
and we know what has come out of it
and there's a lot of elephants in the room I tell you that much here before and we know what has come out of it and
there's a lot of
elephants in the room, I'll tell you that much.
Is Joe disloyal?
I guess that's...
Let me play
the interview first. Well, no, let me
ask y'all first. Is Joe disloyal?
I don't know if I would say disloyal but i could see why somebody
would say that i think the only place that royce misspoke was when he was saying when you use the
race thing with m because i do specifically you remember saying whoever was in charge of presenting
how this looked because you said you did not think it was eminem because he is not someone that's
going to use that card to sell records.
But he said maybe Paul or somebody at the label made it look that way.
So I think Royce was misspoke there.
Okay.
Is that the only place?
Let's hear it again.
Let's play some of it.
I think with that particular situation,
I think he's entitled to his opinion just like anybody else.
But it goes
back to the dignity thing that
I spoke about. The dignity thing.
The loyalty.
I could speak, I could say, yo, I don't
like every single Eminem song that
ever came out.
And I'm entitled to that opinion. I can even say
that. But
there's a such thing as going past the realm of what your opinion is and making it so that it sounds like you're trying to sway people's judgment.
Okay.
For a long time, I had problems with bloggers back in the day because I felt like when they rated my albums, they weren't fair.
They rated them based off of what they interpreted my buzz to be or they rated it based off of what they thought was some cool shit to say and it was i
always felt like it was at my expense so i always took it personal i agree so joe somebody being an
artist i thought if anybody he would understand how important it is that you walk eggshells around
each other's art that's just how we do.
You know, so, like, if Marshall plays me something or if I play him something, if he don't like it,
there's been plenty of times he didn't like beats and shit like that,
what he'll do is he'll tell me something good about it
and then he'll tell me what he doesn't like about it.
But we do it so constructively that it helps us.
Let me stop it right there.
Give me your thoughts on what he just said.
Actually, let me give you my thoughts and then y'all reply.
That sound like he just said we sugarcoat each other's shit.
No, well, not sugarcoat.
When you say there's plenty of songs that I don't like by whoever.
Let me take it out of Royce and Em.
If I come to you and say, I don't like your song, but I'm going to tell you all the things I like about it first.
It's constructive criticism.
It's sugarcoating.
That is the exact definition of sugarcoating.
Not necessarily.
All right, so now define sugar coating for me.
Because sugar coating is when you...
Not saying what you really mean.
Right.
To the full extent.
Like, what he's saying is...
So this is not sugar coating.
No, his is a strategy to say,
all right, I know you're attached to this
because you created it and you're an artist
and I've been in these shoes before.
So let me start out...
That's not what he just said, though.
I thought that's exactly what he just said.
All right, let me play it again.
And I wish I could pull it up
on YouTube,
because this don't let me
just move the marker around.
Before you attack somebody's art,
especially as their friend,
let me start it out
so you don't think
I'm being attacked.
Eminem is not my friend.
He's talking about Eminem.
Eminem, yes.
So yeah, I'm going off
what he just said there
before you paused it. Okay, but then, but he's talking about him and him. Him and him, yes. So yeah, I'm going off what you just said there before you paused it.
Okay, but he's speaking about how I critiqued M's project.
And then he referenced him and M, who are friends.
Do you see where I'm going with this?
Well, he was saying more artist to artist,
not friend to friend. So how you speak to your friend, how you speak to your friend,
fuck artist to artist.
How you speak to your friend and how you speak to someone who is not your friend
are two different things.
That's a fact.
True.
I don't disagree.
But he's saying artist to artist.
You know you've been an artist.
You know you've been attached to music to walk eggshells.
I'm not saying what you should have said or not said.
As an artist, you should understand. To me, walking eggshells and sugar'm not saying what you should have said or not said. But as an artist, you should understand.
To me, walking eggshells and sugarcoating are the same thing.
Same ballpark.
They're cousins.
If you're walking eggshells, it means you're tippy-toeing around something.
If you're sugarcoating something, you're tippy-toeing around something.
You are not getting to the meat and potatoes.
You're not getting to the shits.
No, but he's saying in you getting to the point and you telling what's real also give maybe uh
another side where it's like as an artist y'all are sensitive about y'all shit so he's saying if
you don't like a record cool tell me what you don't like about it but then tell me other things that weren't so bad let me continue with with what
he was saying what they thought was some cool shit to say and it was i always felt like it was
at my expense so i always took it personal so joe somebody being an artist i thought if anybody he
would understand how important it is that you walk eggshells around each other's art.
That's just how we do.
You know, so, like,
if Marshall plays me something
or if I play him something,
if he don't like it,
it's been plenty of times
he didn't like beats
and shit like that,
what he'll do is
he'll tell me something good about it
and then he'll tell me
what he doesn't like about it.
But we do it so constructively
that it helps us.
We walk away from that shit
feeling like, okay,
now I know what to add to it or I know what to factor into the next thing that I do. But that's not evencoating that it helps us that's not tippy-toeing you walk away from that shit feeling like okay now I know what to add to it
or I know what to
factor into the next thing
that I do
but that's not even my main point
that's when you're working
with other artists
especially when you're
working with family
now
the thing that he said
that I really didn't like was
something along the lines of
people
something along the lines of
them using the plight of black people
to sell a record yeah
that was a little crazy to me because that one song that came out before yeah that was a little
crazy to me because he knows marshall personally like he's been to the studio he knows that's not
the kind of person that he is and then like if you just look at it objectively if you just look
at the situation objectively he took is a much tougher it's a much tougher road and path than he had to take
bars what the now before i continue with this let me just say royce and i have had this conversation
in depth he knows how i feel about it i know how he feels about it but i kind of knew that you know
when once royce began doing his promo that he would have
to respond to some of this stuff right um and he and here it is he's responding to it his version
i want to play what i said though that's what i want to do because I told Royce and I'm going to tell y'all, I don't think Royce even heard anything I said.
I don't think Royce nor M nor Paul nor anybody from Shady Records heard
anything that I said in full or within the context of what you would say.
So I'll play it.
I want to play it just so we could put this to bed.
Friday revival is coming so
we got a new m&m track untouchable this is throw it in rice all right throw it in rice okay let's
roll a snippet please i don't want to hear the snippet i didn't get a response i can understand
how he felt that way because oh here we go all right all right fine we'll let the snippet rock
we'll let the snippet rock but after i was reading i
was looking at the royce interview and i remember my conversation with royce and i was reading some
of these comments and the question was is joe budden disloyal that was the question it made me
want to question the shit that i said so i went back to look at the shit that i said
this is what i said it's great
content but M is always going to provide great content because he's one of the best words I'm
gonna let it play the whole thing I'm putting that to the side this is one of the worst songs I've
ever heard and it's giving me a real bad taste about some other things so so now let's rewind
a little bit rewind I love rewinding. Rewinding is great.
The part that Royce fails to mention in rewinding and the part that you wouldn't mention if you just weren't watching the show on a regular basis was exactly how many times I either A, avoided an Eminem topic or B, reserved judgment until the album was released.
Yes?
Fair.
Correct.
Don't sugarcoat my shit is that true that is and if
i am especially and if i am disloyal i want y'all to tell me at the end of my summation but privately
too amongst friends you were avoiding it yeah not even on the camera like because it seemed like
everybody was trying to paint me into some corner come on it's just trash you can't defend it i refused i refused i just would not do it and again even still to this day
i have not heard that album i've not heard that album and i have not reviewed that album so
when you say to me that joe is entitled to his, but he could have done things differently.
Well, let me continue to play this.
The Donald Trump cipher
that I defended,
that I love,
that I stand by everything I said,
because I still think that we need
that sentiment from white people.
I think Joyner came here and said the same thing, I appreciate that but a few days later I came in here
and said I think that he did that expecting a response and I was just
throwing shit at a wall mm-hmm I agree with that sort of interview he did with
sway and then he says that it was surprising there was parts I was a
little upset I didn't get a response.
I can understand how he felt that way because Donald Trump responds to everyone.
All accurate so far?
Yes. He's active on Twitter, and any time somebody criticizes him, especially in hip-hop, he normally responds.
This time he did not to the biggest white hip-hop rapper.
Donald Trump is stupid.
He ain't got to be that stupid. That's true. Donald Trump is stupid. He ain't gotta be that stupid.
That's true. And him is a genius.
So the fact that you were surprised
that Donald Trump did
not reply to your megastar
ass was a little confusing
to me. It's still confusing. But
confusion is not enough for me to come on here
and trash this song. What do you know?
Fast forward. None of this sounds
like disloyalty
released the track list this sounds to me like a man who is painting a picture to the people that
he knows did not catch the context and the 100 episodes that we spoke about him prior to this one
that's what that timeline is for that's what the rewind is for that's what that timeline is for. That's what the rewind is for. That's what the backstory is for.
Continue. Without the benefit of the doubt, appears to be utter garbage.
Appears. That's what it looks. Let me point something out here.
I also was the very last person. To say that that track list look trash.
last person to say that that track list looked trash Royce failed to mention that as well you might fail to mention it if you don't weren't watching the show and seeing exactly how many
times Joe Budden the uh the the retired emcee slash commentator was asked about em like let it
play I have reserved judgment because I think M is a genius,
and I know that they are well-planned and calculated and meticulous,
so maybe these features will make sense.
I love M, and M is one of the greatest rappers to ever live.
I shut up.
And then the front.
This is what you're telling me niggas call the fence over.
And now I'm upset.
And now I'm mad.
This is what you're telling me niggas call a fence over.
And now I'm upset.
And now I'm mad.
And now I'm close to having allergies and my eyes tearing up.
Because I hold you to way too high of a standard.
On way too high of a pedestal.
I agree.
For the optics.
Those are compliments.
This looks bad. It did.
That's true. You know what? Let's go further than this looks bad.
Let me pause that. Stop me when I am saying something incorrect.
Not sincere or disloyal in there. Somebody tell me.
Well, they may be looking at you as not a commentator. And when you use words like utter trash and garbage publicly, yeah, you have the right as someone that considers you a friend to feel some type of way.
Yeah, say whatever you want to me behind closed doors.
Let me help you.
Em doesn't consider me a friend.
Okay.
So let's stop that.
Yo, please.
I'm reading it too much online.
Even when Roy said it, it yo me and Em he said when me and Em
we kick it we talk and I'll tell him how you live y'all are best friends somebody jump in here and
tell me Joe is crazy yes Joe's not incorrect here well I don I don't think so. Anyway, Royce and Em are extremely close.
Their relationship differs from mine and his,
from Joel's and his, from Crook's and his.
There's nothing wrong with that.
So why do we keep talking like you're just supposed to grade niggas
through the friend lenses?
Well, I'm going off what Royce said,
because, again, I don't know any of y'all relationships me and em ain't having thanksgiving dinner together okay well he's just
saying from a label hey new fuckity fuck niggas let me help y'all that's not a diss it is not a
diss that you are not having thanksgiving dinner with people yeah that's not yeah but in this
industry now that goes so i was gonna say because you know with the label loyalty and things of that
nature it may be a bit more extended than someone being my friend they
are a label mate they did sign me they have supported my career so sometimes when you say
certain way wait wait wait repeat what you just said what did you just say that in this industry
with labels and things of that nature people have some type of it's kind of a false sense of loyalty
that if i've helped your career in a certain type kind of a false sense of loyalty that if I've helped your career
in a certain type of way,
if I've really looked out,
if I've helped mend your career,
there is some type of loyalty there.
All right, so let me clear this up
for anyone who was confused
on the stance of Joe Budden
because I think I'm pretty consistent
and I don't think it's changed very much
over the course of the last fucking 20 years.
I don't think anybody at a major label helped me at all ever ever ever
ever that has not changed from 01 to now how joe budden feels about major labels is well documented
i feel like they have all done nothing but rob me and appropriate some great creative shit.
I just looked up appropriate, so I'm using it.
Yeah.
So tell me why I'm supposed to feel like.
I'm giving you a point of view.
All right.
No more point of view from you.
That's where the disconnect comes in.
And that's kind of why I wanted to talk about it.
In this industry with these fucking, and I mentioned it before, these alliances and Roy should have an alliance with them.
I just don't get why I'm supposed to outside of the fact that I'm signed there.
I couldn't get any more respectful in my in my assessment of the album that I didn't hear in the rollout of it.
This is where Royce and I just disagree. And I'll share this.
here in the rollout of it this is where Royce and I just disagree and I'll share this uh Royce says you just shouldn't burn bridges that's that's what Royce says
he says you never know when you will need someone in the future
so you just should play nice and play ball how do you feel about it I don't I don't live by that
well I mean again
it's what you consider
burning a bridge
and it goes both ways
like
I never want to be
signed to Def Jam
that was true
before Slaughterhouse
was formed
I'm not
I'm not looking for
Paul or Em
to save me
so you're signed
to Def Jam?
Paul is at Def Jam now
oh okay
I don't know if Em is there but Paul is there I'm not looking for him to bring me to Def Jam Paul is at Def Jam now oh okay I don't know if Emma's there but Paul's there
I'm not looking for him to bring me to Def Jam let me be clear where Joe is going in in his
destination that the final result can't be altered by people who are not involved
like that's a secret that I've held close to me that's why I don't ever care about
all of this blackball and shit what people people say and all that. What was supposed to happen with all of this shit?
Was I supposed to not say a word about it?
And I'm asking y'all because y'all are my friends.
Don't think that I'm just trying to harp on some old shit.
I get it.
But my thing is, I just don't, you know, again, I think people had the whole you and M relationship thing.
You know, they may have thought that y'all were closer than you actually are but i don't think that you were disrespectful i understand what royce is saying
as far as art from an artist's point of view how you know y'all are sensitive about your art and
the way you create so some of the things that you say from an artist's perspective it may have come
across a little disrespectful or whatever but i don't think that what you were saying in that clip,
I don't think that there was anything negative
that you were saying.
I mean, I always want people to be honest.
I don't care about tiptoeing on eggshells
and coming across, like, just be honest with me.
You know what I'm saying?
I do get what Royce is saying,
how when you say certain things about an artist and his music,
you can give criticism, but also give insight on the positive, too.
Don't just always spew the negative about it.
Unless this is absolutely just nothing positive about it.
There was nothing positive about that.
Well, if that's how you feel, then that's how you feel.
That's exactly how I felt.
Okay, so then that's fine.
But I understand what Royce was saying in the totality of the interview.
Like, I get what he was saying about that.
Then tell me.
in the totality of the interview.
Like, I get what he was saying about that.
Then tell me.
Well, he was saying that you have to be respectful
to each other's art because...
You just said that I wasn't disrespectful.
No, I'm just saying what he was saying.
I'm just saying you have to be respectful
of each other's art.
I'm not saying you were disrespectful.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying from Royce's point of view,
he felt that some of the things
you were saying were disrespectful
because you were just spewing negative about the music.
Not as in the person, the music.
You spewing negative about the music, the track list, the features, whatever.
Like you didn't like it.
Donald Trump not responding to freestyle, the Donald Trump freestyle.
Like you didn't like anything about it.
Those were very objective, constructive criticisms.
And it sounds like those criticisms
are being critiqued
for someone who is unable to be objective.
And that would be Royce,
as long as you have such a tight-knit bond
with him.
I think that a lot of your criticisms, too,
were social criticisms,
more so than artistic criticisms.
And I think that's a bigger thing to me.
But check this out, Barks. If they were artistic
criticisms, so what?
You are a top five rapper
ever with millions of
classic albums. You are a legacy act. You are
cemented. So what?
Everybody doesn't like your last outing.
I agree. Who cares?
I agree. When you're Eminem.
So what did Joe Budden said this single fucking looks away?
And it did look away.
But wait, that's the part that I need to get to.
I'll repeat all of this shit today.
That single looked away.
So when Royce and I are having that conversation,
and Royce says to me,
yeah, why are you up there talking so passionate
about somebody you signed to
and i say because i'm a black person and i felt that way
that's the end of that conversation for me that trumps that no pun that trumps
artists to artists could noodling that trumps you signed somewhere so you should be no i was offended
when i saw that shit and i sound like somebody that's offended i sound like somebody that was
offended and that was dodging this for months and months and months and months and months
you did i just think that is great i just find that it's great that in that clip and right now
you're having the same hat and wearing it the same exact way i think that's like incredible really you're such a you're an incredible act for that
this is the first time in my life that i feel like the ball is being dropped on eminem
oh great no not by him by whoever not by him whoever is handling the fuck is handling him. Not by him. Whoever is handling him.
I don't think I ever even directly addressed him.
Do you call taking a Def Jam job?
Probably.
But somebody over there should be saying something.
Because this is like an obvious take.
This seems disingenuous.
I just don't like how it doesn't seem sincere it seems like a ploy
and a fucking gimmick to sell records which i don't think that you need i don't think he needs
that but it looks that way it seems like you are taking the very common water cooler conversation today of racism which I
hold near and dear to my heart mm-hmm yeah and I'm rolling I know him so I
know that he is not the person that is do em what do you know feels like we
feel I can stand by that I can tell you. I can tell you all that for a fact.
If there's one white person that I know
don't really see no color,
M might not know he's white.
What is Royce talking about?
Somebody tell me.
I know this is dragging, but...
Listen, man.
Well, you said y'all spoke, so I mean, I don't know which y'all came to, the said y'all spoke
so I mean
I don't
I don't know
which y'all came to
the conclusion y'all came to
we came to
agreeing to disagree
oh
that one
I love agreeing to disagree
we came
we came to
yeah that's a disagreement
yeah
that is
that's just a disagreement
but I can see the frustration
agreeing to disagree
it sucks when
it's not something
you actually said my issue no but but my issue my issue is is this though this this is my
real issue and like i said this is like probably the fifth element i'm elephant in the room the
real issue here is had had one person just one person other than me been as vocal as me through all of this slaughterhouse stuff we're gonna have
some real different conversations in 2018 see that's the joe beef here the joe beef that joe
clearly is not allowed to just to discuss is that plenty of people had shit to say regarding Slaughterhouse and Shady.
Joe was just the only vocal one.
So then when Joe retires and takes a fucking news job who hangs his hat on fucking integrity and honesty like he has his whole career, you cannot be surprised when Joe is not acquiescing to his rap relationships.
There are no more.
There are no rap relationships
joe does not want an inverse i don't want a verse from anybody it's that i'm not trying to be funny
i'm not trying to rap there are no there's no sugar coating yeah you got a different career
path now you know shouldn't that be respected i mean no because that's because that's my other beef with this thing you can't be mad at joe for going
to his job and doing his job you can't say oh we supposed to be cool i had no idea what was going
on with paul or m or shady or any of that shit how am am I supposed to go to work and...
I'm getting information.
Everybody else gets information.
You're not even arming me to protect you
if we're friends, if that's what you're saying.
And I'm going by what Royce is saying.
I'm not going to delve too much into this
because I'm right about a lot of shit
that just has to remain secret.
But, yeah, this interview was a little confusing to me and i can't wait for royce to
come to my podcast i can't wait for royce to come to this podcast so we can have a 100 we
have a nice good open conversation and prime two is out this friday royce is my brother i love
royce please don't miss a true this conversation like y'all did the m&m conversation shout out to
royce so at the end of this, Joe is not disloyal.
I don't think so.
I didn't say you were disloyal.
Y'all didn't say anything.
I can see why somebody would think you are, though.
Whatever.
By certain codes,
quote unquote,
air quote codes,
I get it.
I get where he's coming from.
Well, in the bro era,
you're disloyal.
Because everything is bro,
bro, bro.
Those are old,
old, outdated codes. Well, who's more disloyal cause everything is bro those are old old outdated codes
well who's more disloyal
you or the guy on twitter
that was commenting
on sins pictures
hardy hardy
very funny
cause in the bro era
that's pretty disloyal
so that probably
that probably dragged
more than it should have
but whatever
I don't give a fuck
that's important
thanks I had to vent guys
appreciate you guys
being there as friends
yeah of course
did y'all hear the
Jeremiah EP
Yes
You like it
Yes
No you don't
I mean we have
I'm loyal
Hell no
And Hitmaker had a lot
To do with it
Yeah Hitmaker did it
Why don't you like it
I see alright
Now that explains
Now I see why
I'm disloyal
Alright no I am disloyal
Joe is only on the side
Of the music
I hear you
Only on the side Of the music So Bird hear you. Only on the side of the music.
So Bird comes up here two years ago and plays that H-Town record.
We all go crazy and love it.
Never heard anything about it.
It drops on this four-song EP.
Yep.
Two of the songs are really good.
Two of the other songs, I'm confused.
What is it, Suck Me Till I Sleep or some shit?
Wait, let me bring a note you told me.
Yeah, I think it is Suck Me Till I Sleep.
It's the stupidest song in the world.
Texburg, that shit.
No, Getting Sucked Till You Sleep is great.
But that song, and just that fast, I identified my issue with Jeremiah.
Jeremiah's all over the place.
What is Jeremiah's identity?
On a four-song EP, he was all over the place.
But that's always kind of been his career since Birthday Sex.
He's kind of always jumped around.
And then he kind of...
That's the problem.
Yeah, well, clearly.
But he was kind of on that party wave early
and then everyone kind of stole his swag.
Jeremiah has influenced
a lot of what R&B sounds like now
and everyone just took it
and put it out quicker
and it sounded better.
So it kind of just left him to be like,
all right, I'm chasing my own sound now.
No.
You got to go back to early Jeremiah shit.
He was on that
darker party
next door type sound
before it became
so popular.
I'm not even going to
say that that's
party next door sound.
I'm not going to
attribute it to him
per se.
He was the one
that I think really
Did you like the EP?
Yeah.
I like three out of four.
Okay.
That's not bad.
I like two out of four
so I guess that's not bad.
Wait. Hold up. I said I liked it. He was like no out of four. Okay, that's not bad. I like two out of four, so I guess that's not bad. Wait, hold up.
I said I liked it.
He was like, no, I don't.
You like half of the project.
Who are you talking about?
No, the problem, the H-Town song, Bird came up here and played.
I loved that song then, right?
But when he played that song, there was no second verse on it.
So now that I hear the song with the second verse,
I don't love it as much as I did.
It sounded like Jeremiah Sleepwalked through that second verse i don't love it as much as i did like they they
sound like he's jeremiah sleepwalk through that second verse but that's cool i still like that
song that the other song uh cards right i love that song but berg sent me the reference
it's two references i like the references so i don't count that you just went there and sung
the references i like i mean and then the other still have't count that you just went there and sung the references I like I mean
you still have to count that
that sucked me to
I'm telling you
about why I feel
why I feel bad
that sucked me to
I'm sleep song
getting sucked while you wake up
is way better than
getting sucked to sleep
nah
nah
the wake up
the wake up is fine
I didn't know where to find
this song in here
I got it you wanna play it depends nah the wake up the wake up is fine I don't even know where to find this song in here uh
I got it
you wanna play
uh
the SMTS shit
or the niffle shit
SMTS
play that song
for me please
she
saw
fire
burn
burn
someone
tell her
she she hey hey I know don't point at Joe
when that's
yo
can somebody go to
Rap Genius
what's the annotations
on this
what's happening
just tell me
turn it down a little bit
don't stop it
explain it to me.
This was not in the 30s.
Is this one of the songs that you like?
I don't really like this one.
Turn it up a little bit.
Turn it up a little bit.
Zee, zee, zee.
I don't really like that song, but...
It's part of the song I like, though.
It's part of the song I like, though.
I'm trying not to drive.
No, it's there.
It's part of this record I like, though.
Yo, take it back.
Yo, turn it down some.
Turn it down some.
Man, how's he even talking to the engineer?
What's he saying?
Yo, take it back, guy.
Do.
He's sounding like.
It's like a new thing in music. I don't know. To sound like Beep beep beep
It's like a new thing in music
I don't know
To sound like car alarms
No because
Didn't Future
Didn't Future just do that
On that kid's record
Future does
Future
But that shit was kind of fire
Yeah but Future is
One of the best
That shit was terrible
I don't
I like that shit
I like that shit too
Future
Beep beep beep
Way better than Jeremiah
Yes That shit is hard That shit is hard Yeah Get the fuck out of here Nah, I like that shit. I like that shit, too. Future, beep, beep, beep. Way better than Jeremiah.
Da-dee-da-dee-da.
Yes.
That shit is hard.
That shit is hard.
Yeah.
Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, nigga.
I don't want to hear that shit.
Yeah, nigga.
Y'all niggas is crazy.
It's real.
But you like that, but don't like this.
It's the same shit.
Turn this up.
And it wasn't slow.
It snuck me to sleep.
This was the coldest.
Suck me to sleep.
Da-dee-da-dee-da.
Slump on my neck.
It's the same shit, bro.
Can you turn this fucking bullshit off?
Can you stop this noise?
Stop this noise.
Your falsetto's gonna fire.
I'm just saying.
Malkin sing.
You gotta hit them, Chins.
Hey, look, but I'm just saying.
Malkin singing dance.
Is that the record?
This shit is trash, though, bro.
So that is the one record you didn't like.
Yeah, there's certain parts of the record I like,
but I don't like the whole record.
All right, now play the other record, then.
Yo, Malkin. Yo, I hate you nigg there's certain parts of the record I like, but I don't like the whole record. All right, now play the other record then. Yo, more always.
Yo, I hate you niggas
that like parts of a song.
You can like parts of a record.
You can 100% like parts of a record.
Yo, you said you like
the Fab Lauren record
and hate the hook.
Yes, I do.
I don't like the way
he was saying one thing.
Then you don't love,
how could you love the song
and hate the hook?
No, you can.
You can definitely hate the hook.
Did you like what Michael said? Then you don't love the song. That's not true No, you can. You can definitely hate the hook. Did you like what Lyle said?
Then you don't love the song.
That's not true.
That's not entirely true.
Give me a song that you hate the hook and love the song.
Take the rest of the day.
It's been a lot.
Underground hip hop shit has got terrible.
Don't get Park started.
It's a lot.
You're going to give me all the Souls of Mischief songs.
Yeah, enough of Park.
Play the other song. No, no, not this one. Yeah, enough of Park. Well, play the other song.
No, no, not this one.
This is the great one.
Oh.
This is the great one.
That's the one I wanted to play.
No, that's the other great one.
It's a great project.
It's only four songs.
There's one great one?
That's a great project.
Or a good project.
It's a good percentage.
No.
You just did a whole song of
And you got
Bring the oohs back
Let the flutes out
This is better than the other record
I didn't mind this record
I like this record
Go to Rap Genius
What did he just say?
Stop it
What did he just say?
So y'all love the record You can't try to figure out What'd he just say? Stop it. What'd he just say? Na-di-na-di-da. Slap him on the...
So y'all love the rap.
You can't try to figure out what they're saying in 2018.
That's true.
Get with the times, Joe.
Lyrics don't matter.
I don't care what they say.
How did he say it?
Hey.
It's a little Yachty-ish.
Definitely a little Yachty-ish.
What is happening?
Did Berg approve this?
Did Kaiser
Who approved this?
This is like someone
Trying to do Dream
In karaoke
Yo turn this off a minute
I ain't gonna lie
This is my hot take
This is my hot take right now
And to all the kids today
It's gonna sound like
Some old Hater Joe Button shit
But this is my hot take 80% is my hot take right now. And to all the kids today, it's going to sound like some old Hater Joe Buttons shit. But this is my hot take.
80% of the songs that's out today, if they were on a demo tape in the 90s.
They're getting thrown out.
If I give you my demo tape in the 90s.
Fuck the 90s in like 2012.
Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
All this shit Ben sounded like demos. All this shit Ben sounded like demos
all this shit
Ben sounded like demos
this is the demo era
that's exactly what we in
the demo era
when I first heard
Future on that Rihanna record
I was like
damn they left the ref in that bitch
no he is the ref
yeah that's what I'm saying
yeah I was like
why is the ref in there
yeah and then I listened to it
three times
and started loving it
right
of course
I like that though
I know
That shit is terrible
This music is just like
The writer trying to get
The melody
And the hook
Alright we'll fill the words in after
Did y'all hear the
Did y'all hear Wale's
Wale's new shit
Loved it
It's complicated
Yeah
Wale's getting back to
What worked for him
The best
I still like the What was the one that came out before?
The, damn, the single he just put out last week.
Not going to help you.
Just want you trying to figure it out.
I listen to it on the way here.
I love when you, yo, what was that?
You know this shit.
Not helping.
That was still my favorite record that he's put out of all this.
Yo, Wale's EP is really good.
Ice pissed me off earlier and made me hate it
because I just randomly was on a timeline.
Iced him up.
Yo, Wale leaving Atlantic was the best thing to ever happen to him.
He getting back to that old Wale.
He put out an EP.
He put out an EP.
Wait, but didn't he
Yes you know
He's got Ice on his Apple watch
You don't think he's a hype beast
But isn't he like
Still signed there though
Ice
Ice too
Ice is signed to Apple
He been signed to Apple
Wait no
Wale's not still signed to Atlantic
We just called Kaiser
Last week on the podcast
You probably weren't listening
Because the label execs
Never lied before.
No, Kaiser? No way.
I don't think he's a liar. Well, it's on MMG.
Is that not
signed to Atlantic?
No, that's not signed to Atlantic.
Whatever, man. Warner owns
Atlantic.
Rory being funny, but he knows
so he's confusing people. Let me just help y'all.
Wale being on MMG does not mean he assigned to Atlantic.
Correct.
You know that.
I know.
Right?
But Warner owns Atlantic.
So he's still in the parent company that signed his check.
What is it, fact day?
His check is going to say Warner no matter what.
No, it's not, I don't think.
No, it's not.
It'll say Warner.
What check is Wale getting that's going to say Warner?
I think they all probably said
Warner
I could be wrong about that
Def Jam check said
Universal
that's true
how does the Def Jam check look
like a Universal check
when are
when are all these artists
getting checks from the label
that's my question
that's a funny question
yeah what is Wale talking about
that's funny
I've never seen a check
from a label
but whatever
shout out to Wale
shout out to Wale
we have not dissected
any of the music.
No, it's good.
It's dope.
He got back to that shit
that really made him
mainstream popular.
Was the Cool Girl Records
was still rapping
like a man and a woman
can listen to it
and not hate each other.
It's great.
Why was Brittany Griner
showing her tits
on Instagram?
Brittany Griner?
Say it on.
Say it on. Brittany Griner was Say it on. Say it on.
Brittany Griner
was not showing her tits.
Yeah, yes.
And my tits is definitely
bigger than hers.
Brittany Griner
or Brittany Renner?
No, Brittany Griner, nigga.
The basketball player?
Well, both their titties are the same.
Brittany Griner.
Listen, man.
Listen.
No, no, no.
Brittany Griner was not
showing her tits.
Brittany Renner.
I'm joking about Brittany Renner.
I was about to say that did not happen. She ain't voluptuous. Brittany Griner was not showing her tits. Brittany Griner, I'm joking about Brittany Griner.
Brittany Griner is the homie.
That did not happen.
She ain't voluptuous.
Brittany Griner?
Brittany Griner.
Oh, but I'm just saying.
Well, neither of them.
No, but you said Brittany Griner.
She was. That's who I'm talking about.
The basketball player?
Yes.
She's showing her tits?
Yes.
No way.
How come Maul is always...
No way.
No way.
Him not knowing anything is better.
We have to get him off
the podcast. I'm dismayed, my nigga.
I'm fabulous. Brittany Griner
is showing
her titties? No, I'm not.
Savon,
can you pull up something on your phone
to prove to Maul
that things are happening in the world?
Don't pull that up. I don't want to see that. She was in the gym?
Why is she?
What is going on?
Gym.
Gym has similar tits.
I got a theory about all these long torso chicks anyway, though.
Oh, my God.
You have theories about everything.
Yo, but the long torso squad.
The long torso squad.
Yo, yo.
All right, you don't not notice in the squad? The long torso squad. You're not noticing the squad?
There's a squad of
fine chicks out there, but they're like
they're the long torso fine.
They're like mad
big limbed.
Tall girls.
Alright, I'm getting off of this.
No, not tall girls.
No, no, no, no. Very funny
how you try to change the narrative.
I'm talking about
bitches that have big limbs
big limbs
what are you talking about
if you have big limbs
y'all talking amongst yourselves real quick
big arms
big arms or long arms
Alexa has a long torso
okay
I'm just trying to give you an example
let me show them all let me show them all
what I'm talking about here
y'all know
there's also those chicks
some have like wide stomachs
but they not fat
this girl
oh my god
now you can't tell here
look at this bitch torso
so you can't tell right here
that's what I'm saying to you
hey
on Instagram
the long torso chicks
are cutting their torsos out
wait you know Instagram, the long torso chicks are cutting their torsos out.
Wait.
See, look.
You've never seen their belly button? This is a trick.
This is a trick.
This bitch's torso is long.
Both of them.
Joe is crazy.
Joe is definitely crazy.
All right, forget it.
I definitely wish I was on that long torso beach right there you talking about.
You bugging them bitches is doofy.
Crazy as fuck.
That's what I'm talking about.
You're bugging.
There's a squad of...
No, I'm serious.
You're bugging the fuck out.
You're bugging out.
You're bugging out.
Both of them are not goofy.
Doofy.
Nah, no, they're not.
That one, you know for a fact, what's the name, is not doofy. You know that for a fact. Don't do that. Don't do that. Both of these bitches is doofy Nah no they're not That one You know for a fact What's her name is not Doofy
You know that for a fact
Don't do that
Don't do that
All for these bitches
It's Doofy
Which one ain't Doofy
She is not Doofy
In person
No
You know better than that
I'm done with you
You crazy as fuck
I'm done with you
This thing is crazy
I'm done with you
I'm done with you
Are you crazy man
What's Doofy mean
What do you mean
What Doofy means
Doofy means stumpier
Well I can't look it up, nigga.
Doofy means, like, I don't know.
Weird, just like, yeah, like, what's wrong with you?
Doof.
Frumpy.
Frumpy.
I've heard someone call it doof and mad.
Moe be defending mad doof, bitches.
Yeah, nah, nah, she ain't doofy.
Nah.
She not doofy because she's fine?
No, she's not doofy, period.
There's nothing doofy about it.
I can show you doofy girls.
Show me. She's not doofy. I think they both do doofy about her. I can show you doofy girls. Show me.
She's not doofy.
I think they both doofy.
No.
Well, I've never met that other one.
That's a really compelling concept.
You never really met this one.
Yeah, but it don't matter.
Morel ain't never met this chick, and he want to fucking cape this man.
Nah, she ain't doofy, my nigga.
Nah, nah.
Not the first one you talking about.
They both doofy, damn it.
You crazy.
Anyway, nobody knows who's talking about you, so whatever.
Was there anything else important to talk about?
I think we can get the fuck out of here.
Since we got that conversation.
You like that shit.
That shit is trash.
Hey, baby.
Oh, the Tory and Travis?
That shit leaked today.
Screw duffel
That was
That was a scuffle
I know but
The footage finally leaked
The shit
Finally
We were waiting
I was at the edge of my seat
After the Tory Lanez song
When he said him and Travis
Were about to fight
Oh yeah man
Let's get into that real quick
Before we get the fuck out of here
Tory and Travis
Bow wow and Chris Brown
That's terrible Even on your own tour bus Someone's still gonna have A camera out Tory and Travis, Bow Wow and Chris Brown.
That's terrible.
Even on your own tour bus, someone's still going to have a camera out during a moment that shouldn't be on camera.
Tory leaked that shit himself.
That's the other thing.
Niggas got to just start owning their shit.
Who was on the bus with their phone out and decided to put the footage out a week after Tory's album dropped?
After he addressed it on record.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Come on. And in the Breakfast Club interview. Yeah, no, come on. That footage is it on record. Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on.
And in the Breakfast Club interview.
Yeah, no, come on.
That footage is old, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
years old.
Yeah, Tory put that shit out.
I wouldn't matter
to the approach.
Everyone get off the bus.
Just you and I.
We can fight it out.
I still respect
that type of fight.
What did Travis say
to that?
Nah, everybody stay on.
Specifically my
friends.
Insecurity. He ain't coming on my tour bus to
kick everybody off and fight me.
No. I'm leaving my
friends right here. It's my bus. You get
off my bus, nigga. No, but Travis
is on Tory's bus. Oh, well, then I'm going to leave.
But why am I on the bus
of a guy that wants to fight me then?
Because I think Travis came on the bus based on some that wants to fight me then Word Because I think Travis
Came on the bus
Based on some shit
That Tory had said
In like an interview or something
I think Tory might have had a show
Travis was there
He pulled up
Alright so wait
That one small detail
Of it being
Tory's bus
That's a major detail
Changes everything for me
Yeah nah that was Tory's bus
Why the
So Travis walked on
Tory's bus
To get chumped
I mean I don't think he knew It was gonna go that way thing for me. Yeah, no, that was Tory's bus. Why the, so Travis walked on Tory's bus to get chumped?
I mean,
I don't think he knew it was going to go that way.
There was the classic
moment in there,
are you apologizing
or is it hands?
Because you know how
men have the ego
and the pride
where we're like,
apologize,
but don't want to sound
like a bitch
when we apologize.
So you got a little
attitude with it.
Nah,
Tory definitely
was getting his shit off.
Tory got his shit off.
Yeah,
he said,
are you apologizing
or is it his?
Yeah,
it was corny
if you guys say that.
Why that's corny though?
I don't know,
I'm just talking shit.
How tall is Travis Scott?
I don't know.
Taller than Tory Lanez.
What did,
I didn't watch the whole clip.
Did we hear Travis's voice reply?
That's what I could hear.
Yeah,
I could hear it.
Oh,
Savon heard it.
What'd he say?
Yeah, he was basically the cop's plea.
Savon said that, Travis.
Not us.
He didn't keep that energy?
He didn't keep that energy.
I don't ever want to hear
Travis Scott's song again.
He a cop's plea
to a nigga with that
type of jump shot.
Hey, Tony is my nigga.
And that's called Tory. That's called Tory. Do we have sleepers, man? Hey, Tori is my nigga Let's call Tori
Let's call Tori
Do we have sleepers, man?
What you gonna ask Tori?
If Travis is safe
Alright, man
Nigga changed his number on you
Word
After the album came out
3
2
3
it rang once too
so he saw it
damn
he saw it
yo
bro you're so stupid
I hate them niggas
that think they can tell
when you're sending them
the voicemail
yeah it was one ring
oh yeah
listen bro
I'm sorry bro
sorry bro
alright well shout out to Tori
that was the appropriate
amount of time to look at a phone and ignore it.
Charlamagne tried to pump up something between me and Tori.
Oh, maybe that's why he sent me the voicemail.
I didn't think of that.
It worked.
Didn't we talk about that last week?
It worked.
Oh, yeah, we did.
Yeah, we addressed that.
Yeah, but I didn't try to call Tori last week either.
That's like I didn't know Jhené blocked me until I fucking went to-
She's blocking all of us after this episode airs.
How is she blocking us?
Because she don't shower.
I still don't believe that.
She don't look like
the shower type.
Nah, y'all crazy.
Now y'all tripping.
Your mall is nuts.
Your mall.
I want a list of all
of your Hollywood affiliations.
I don't have any affiliation
in Jhené.
You stole, you stole,
I didn't say that. I said I want a list of all your Hollywood affiliations. I saw some chick any affiliations. You stole, you stole, I didn't say that.
I said I want a list
of all your Hollywood affiliations.
I saw some chick,
a clip of Kris Jenner
doing the whole
you drop the name,
pick it up thing.
I saw it.
So you stole that
from Kris Jenner.
No, I didn't.
Yes, you did.
Or she stole it from him.
Oh, please.
First of all,
Kris Jenner stole
something from you.
I don't know which she stole.
Well, who did it first?
I didn't.
They stole Kanye West. Well, how do you know if you don't know when she did it Well, who did it first? I did. They stole Kanye West.
Well, how do you know
if you don't know when she did it?
That clip just came out, right?
So you saw the clip.
Oh.
He was behind the camera.
When did I do it?
When did I do that?
You know these things are filmed
well before they're aired.
I mean, you tell me.
What was that?
Slamming his whole laptop.
Joe is the clumsiest.
Do you guys think Bruno Mars is cultural appropriation?
That is exactly why I had to look up the word appropriation
I think Bruno has a perm
Yeah we got sleepers
I'm just saying
You was great on this podcast when you first came too
Like that's why we made you stay
I'm still great on this podcast when you first came, too. That's why we made you stay. I'm still great on this podcast.
You got me fucked up.
I think we covered everything.
Oh.
They're doing a Dapper Dan biopic.
I'm going to see that.
I don't like how you say biopic.
I don't either.
Joe says biopic.
Biopic.
Well, I said it wrong.
You sound like some glasses.
What's his name is playing Dapper Dan? Why am I blanking? Very You sound like some glasses. What's his name?
He's playing Dapper Dan.
Why am I blanking?
Very funny comedian.
Come on.
You guys know the funny comedian.
No.
Hannibal Buress.
Buress.
Gerard Carmichael.
Thank you so much.
La dee da dee da.
La dee da dee da.
La dee da dee da.
This is going nowhere.
Call the cop.
How old is Jeremiah making those noises in the studio?
Honestly. Why the... Is he trying those noises in the studio? Honestly.
Why the...
Is he trying to appeal to the kids?
Alright, fine.
That shit is still fire.
This one is over, man.
I don't know.
I don't know.
There's much left.
No, no.
There's not much left.
Oh, we didn't even talk about the Bruno Mars shit.
But what I will say is Shorty that said all of that stuff about Bruno Mars,
she was absolutely correct in all the facts that she used to support her argument.
I just don't think he's appropriate in the culture.
Yeah, no, I don't either.
You can't appropriate the culture when at every chance you get,
you let people know where this style of music comes from and you pay homage
I think was she more so
and I don't know
that's a lot of homage
yeah
I think she was more so
trying to say
that the industry
is like pushing him
because he's not
black
I think that's what
she was trying to say
that's America
yeah
so I don't think
that's Bruno's fault
but
yeah
that's my thing
I just don't think Bruno should get caught up in all this fucking flack for winning an award or for the Academy or how the board does things.
I just don't think that he should personally.
That's all.
Nor do I think it's culture appropriation.
Nor do I think that we should still be having 24-carat conversations fucking a year later.
It's only been a year?
It might have been less than a year. No, I was going to say more. That's a great record. It's only been a year? It might have been less than a year.
I was going to say more.
That's a great record.
It's a great record, yeah.
What, 24 karat?
Yes.
That's kind of the point.
Oh, you're talking about the album?
Both.
Right.
You got sleepers?
All right.
Yeah.
I don't care.
If you think the album is great,
then there's nothing more to discuss.
Snickers want to sit here and talk about all the albums they think is good
that's a great podcast huh
oh you know what else was really good
just check it out
fuck out of here
just cause Joe don't like anything
when's the last album you really thoroughly enjoyed
from top to bottom
I like mad albums from top to bottom
the last one.
I was one recently.
Top to bottom.
Nipsey, top to bottom.
Kendrick, top to bottom. Hove,
top to bottom. There's a lot of rap albums that I've
enjoyed. Black, top to bottom. If you want to get to
R&B, there's a lot of R&B projects I like. Top to
bottom. Yeah, you're an R&B thug.
Yeah, come on. Y'all niggas, y'all play
into that little I'm a hater narrative. That's true. We got sleepers thug. I like, yeah, come on, act like y'all niggas, y'all play into that little I'm a hater now,
but.
Me, you're a hater,
but.
That's true.
We got sleepers
or not?
I'm getting the
fuck out of here.
We always have
sleepers.
All right, do you
want to play your
extra hard rap
sleeper first?
Sure, guys.
Hi, kids.
Oh, I get like
an Eminem reference.
All right.
Thanks, Word.
We'll work on
colors next week,
Word. Don't worry about it. Thanks, man. Emin Eminem reference. All right. Thanks, Rory. We'll work on colors next week, Rory.
Don't worry about it.
Thanks, man.
Eminem was funny.
Eminem.
Eminem.
Let's see.
What am I going to play?
Why don't we all listen to nothing while you figure it out?
I'm trying to find something.
You were the one that just said we always have sleepers. Yeah, this guy. No, I have one. I'm just trying to figure it out. I'm trying to find something. You were the one that just said we always have sleepers.
No, I have one.
All right, so you know, Joe Button Podcast
episode 154. Let me get my sleeper then.
This thing is amazing. Wait, what's my
sleeper? I have a sleeper.
Go play something.
I played this kid Aaron Ray's
single a while ago and his album just came out.
Aaron Ray. Rory will play
a nigga with two first names. Yeah, man.
So yeah,
Joe is...
Wait. Joe is...
There's really something wrong with you, man. Only Rory
has Aaron
Ray. Take it away, Aaron Ray.
Yo, Aaron Ray's name
is trash.
You love the single I played. And that artwork
is crazy. Anyways. Is that his real name? I don't know the single, I believe. And that artwork is crazy.
Anyways. Is that his real name?
I don't know.
Fuck what I know. Because if it's a made-up name, then I'm going to kill him way more. If he made up Aaron
Ray,
not supporting his
creativity.
Yo, you loved his single, too.
Alright, go ahead. Alright, anyways, this is Aaron Ray
and Todd Allison on Take. Take. Girl, you know I don't wanna leave you It's the truth, I want you, I want you
Girl, you know I don't wanna leave you It's the truth, I want you, I want you
All the automatic ways when we touch base I'm just tryna fuck a bad bitch, it's a good day
I'm talkin' out late, I ain't just tryna ball it
Try to tame, not to bring that ass around me, okay?
No tears, I want it all off
No trip, I won't get caught up, baby
You got work, you better call off
A week, you'll need it all off
Baby, I don't mean to tell you what to do But it's all this tension
Just wanna take you Girl, you know I don't wanna leave
It's the truth, just want you, I want you Girl, you know I don't wanna take
We can We can take our time, we can take our time
I'm a long shotgun for a long time Swimming in your pussy, I'm a dive in
Your nigga keep blowing up, you're not putting on silent
Okay, I just play my rules Tell me we should take it slow, yeah
Sex so good, got you shook, yeah
Sex so good, got you hooked, yeah, yeah
Babe, I don't mean to tell you what to do
But there's so much sanguine
Just wanna take you in
Girl, you know
Girl, you know I don't wanna leave
It's the truth, just want you, I want you
Girl, you know I don't wanna leave
It's the truth.
I want you.
That's right.
101.9.
Brand new music from Aaron Ray featuring Ty Dolla $ign.
That one is called Shame.
It's called Take.
Or Take. Skrt. Rory, Rory, Rory
Yo, every song Rory likes
Get the breakdown
Yeah
Turn this shit off, Aaron Rory
Wow
He killed the breakdown, too.
Want to turn your la-di-da's down, bro?
Sorry, man.
I was in a vibe.
The la-di- dives are helping.
This shit ain't musical bliss at the end.
Musical bliss is funny.
This shit ain't musical bliss.
Musical bliss.
Musical bliss is one of them terms that the music snobs use.
I'm glad the era of the music snob is dead well no it's not no it's
not you're one of them no i'm not no i'm not no i'm not i don't even listen to enough uh music
to be a music snob like i listen to the music i like it's a music snob thing to say no the music
snob niggas be like now they have the weird shit That you've never heard of before It's like Japanese folk music
Your opinion's invalid
If you never even heard the fourth album from Doom
They shame you for not knowing shit
No one knows
Sorry that I'm not up to speed
On all my MF Doom
You didn't hear the unreleased B-side?
That was unreleased bro No I didn't hear it Sorryleased B-side? It was unreleased, bro.
No, I didn't hear it.
Sorry.
And I love MF Doom.
Shazzy Doom.
All right, so...
All right, I'm going to play Jeremiah.
Man, no.
No.
What do you mean, man?
No.
After you just said the project was not good?
I didn't say it was not good, did I?
Oh, my God.
Come on.
Well, I recanted,
if two out of four songs is good,
then it's good.
That's true.
But y'all know how I feel
about four-song projects.
I'm off of these EPs.
Like, stop it, nigga.
When is a Jeremiah album coming out?
I want to hear a Jeremiah album
or a Jeremiah and Ty Dolla album,
the Minty album,
something, not this EP.
There shouldn't be any fluff
on a four-song EP.
On an EP.
For what it's worth.
Sorry that my standard is high.
If you're making four songs and you're great, you should be able to make four great songs.
Especially when you're not the nigga writing or producing it.
I agree.
Like, if you just got to go perform some shit.
But I am going to play Cards Right.
I want to play the ref, too. That's the way I do.
But
this is Cards Right off the Jeremiah EP.
Before I do that, listen
to the ref though.
That's way
swagger already, but all right.
I'm shut up.
What'd you say?
That girl is super talented that does his reps.
Oh, 100%.
Shout out to Goldie.
Goldie, you're amazing.
You're amazing. Got you waiting outside when you see it's me
Ain't no other thing but a PYT
I'm tryna get you alone in my suite
Ain't nobody gotta know, know about me
Keep it movin', don't stop I'ma keep it sippin' till the sun rise
Just a reminder for when you're lonesome You can have it anytime you wanna hold some
You play your cards right, baby, I'll be ready to go
I'm ready to, I'm ready to go You play your cards right, baby, I'll be ready to go I'm ready to Play your cards right
Baby, I'll be ready to go
Now all I need is you all alone
Play your cards right
Baby, I'll be ready to go
This all gonna hold me down As I come up, come up, come up
Later on tonight, play around till the sun up, sun up, sun up
Keep it moving, don't stop
I'ma keep it sippin' till the sun rise
Just to remind us for when you know something
You can have it anytime you wanna hold something
You play your cards right, baby, I'll be ready to go
I'm ready to, ready to go
You play your cards right, baby, I'll be ready to go
Yeah, now all I need is you all alone
All I need is you all All I need is you all
Say your call is right, baby, I'll be ready to go
Ready to go Stand to your record bro
Alright
You talk nigga
What the fuck are you telling me for
Yo this is Vado Walk
Intro's trash
Try to just come on and shut my shit down. and they get a bird off yeah designer name on the tube side paper planes of the moon rock
rap game at the jukebox for the skate key was the rooftop hate me cause your crew pop
spill tea how your crew mop i ain't into you niggas why pretend to you niggas i'm not a friend
of you niggas fuck broke y'all look lost i'm supposed to win with you niggas one flow dimension
new niggas who recommended you niggas?
Where the fuck did they come from?
Type niggas that like being around money but don't ever want none
Get them clipped for the blunt done
Chick on me, I don't want hun
Every time your bird fly through, I shoot her down like duck hunt
E like fuck is up, son
Need that OV back
Goofy niggas trying E's back
Get a street stat, watch the feedback
I understand I pose a threat
Man's man have no regrets Not a fan, then you overslept
Like damn, he ain't over yet Montclair pull over vests
Rock ASB to hover checks Oh, we call those the hoffers
Organized like the mobsters Pour the house with the lobsters
Not the type that's quick to wife Every bad bitch ain't the Oscar
Like every dread ain't a roster
Cartier, check the posture L-smoke, let's smoke something
Need coke, that boat coming Real one don't know nothing
Real one won't post nothing Take this, you owe nothing
I got work, that owe nothing I just wanna see you win more
Trade places like Winthorpe Cute faces get sent for
For the 10th floor at the Windsor
River road where the bins roll
Swimming pool got it indoor
God forbid they think him poor
Need ill soft for this 10-poor
That's Vado Walk
Happy birthday to my nigga V too, man
Hey, now your song over, nigga
Now the show's over
The show's over
When I say it's over nigga
It's over
How long was that song?
This one?
It was short
Freestyle was like two minutes
Okay shout out to Vado
Happy birthday to V
Right
My nigga
Alright
And looks like
that's our show
with us
ladies and gentlemen
alright
Rory's got a job
to get to
got shit to do
I know
are y'all going
are y'all going
to the Hove concert
the Hove
Beyonce concert
I've been
what's the last one
the one before that.
Baby, are we going to go August 2nd?
What today?
What's today?
Wait, what?
It's March.
I don't know what's happening
August 2nd.
She won't be there.
If your girl says you're going, you're going, bro.
No, you know what she said? She said,
you want to come with me.
So she's going regardless.
I'll see what I'm doing.
I haven't figured out how to word my text to Jay yet.
Trying to see if Rory can just get it done for us, but, you know what I mean?
Nah.
Rory got me dubbed by Questlove.
Wait, what?
I'll tell you on Afterthoughts. I'll tell you on Afterthoughts.
I'll tell you on Afterthoughts.
You got dubbed by Questlove.
Yeah, but fucking bum ass Rory set me up.
Rory set me up.
Come on, Afterthoughts, right now.
Let's do it.
Right now.