The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 155 | "Daily Mail"
Episode Date: March 28, 2018On this week’s episode, Joe, Rory, and Mal had a lot to discuss without any interruptions from Billy. They started off with Cardi B and the revealing of her album cover. They also discuss the “Str...ategic Marketing” behind her roll-out and if the album is being rushed (4:58). Also, Is Tekashi69 really the hottest rapper? Surprisingly, Joe gives his thoughts on the self-proclaimed “King of New York” and makes a comparison between Tekashi and one of the biggest hip hop artist to live (24:06). And yes, R&Beef is back! Eric Bellinger had words for Tory Lanez on his latest diss track "Yikes". The guys listen and react (34:20). Another loaded episode, salute. Other topics include: -Chris Brown and Lil Dicky’s video. And Chris commenting on Karrueche’s picture (56:00) -Hell Rell dissing Joe in a freestyle (1:17:01) Sleeper Picks of the Week: Joe: Ro James “Smoke” | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4QhuLCRT3I&feature=share Mal: Keys N Krates (featuring Ambré Perkins) “Glitter” | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmePdfhGfRo&feature=share Rory: Anders “I Don’t Want Your Love” | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx0cBxnTeLk&feature=share
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Missy Adlibs always used to get the party rocking.
And this is how I'm feeling right now.
How's everybody doing out there?
Welcome to the Joe Budden Podcast.
My air went out this bitch.
Monica, Monica, Monica, Monica, Monica.
All right.
Parks, you were correct last week with the episode number.
Yes, I was.
My most humble apologies.
Sorry.
What episode number is it this week?
155 now.
Correct.
So I was a week ahead of things like I normally am.
We're going to flip that, bro.
Thanks, Parks.
Thanks, guys.
Welcome to the Joe Budden Podcast, episode 155.
I'm your host, Joe Budden, in a room with a bunch of my friends.
Rory's here.
Maul is here.
Parks is here.
Erickson's here.
Brandon is here for some reason.
And Savon is here. Gentlemen, how are you guys doing?
We got B with the takeouts. We got the exclusives.
No, Rory and Maul!
How's everybody doing? Everybody good?
Nah.
No. Talk about it.
But why?
BET sent one award, B
Damn
Erickson
Can you get a good shot
Of our BET award
That I put in my book bag
And brought here
To Park's house
So you could get
A good shot of it
Cause they actually
Sent the hashtag award
And to my surprise
It's heavier than I thought
Pause
Is this heavier than the vibe?
No
Award?
No
Okay
Nah My vibe award's hard still Um So Pause. Is this heavier than the vibe? No. No. Okay.
Nah.
My vibe war is hard still.
So do we want to give a round of applause for us winning again, just to be vain?
Yeah.
No?
I mean.
BET, we.
Rory and Maul.
I had a place on my mantle for my hashtag award.
Rory and Maul. At my mom's house.
Parks.
Next to my high school diploma.
And Dill need.
And Dill. Dill definitely needs one.
Dill is getting somebody's award.
I don't know if y'all know it or not.
All right, so let's get right to the shits because we have a lot to talk about.
Rory just informed me that Craig Mack died in a sex cult.
Yeah.
That's a good way to go.
And I'm not starting there.
I'm not starting there.
But please remind me to get back to Craig Mack and a sex cult because that's a good way to go and i'm not starting here i'm not starting here but please
remind me to get back to craig mac and it's sex cult because that's news to me i watch the news
every day and that's i didn't see that is that confirmed news or is this uh this is on daily
mail.com that sounds who the fuck is
it's daily and there's mail like it was that shit like it was CNN or some shit.
Or dailymail.com.
It looked like CNN.
You can't just throw the daily in front of it and I'm rolling.
Nah, daily mail.
How did you get the sex culture?
And mail is spelled M-A-L-E.
Yeah, come on.
Rory, what type of sites?
Check his cookies.
Pause.
Check his cookies?
Yes.
All right, pause.
Yeah, that was crazy. Check his cookies Yes Alright pause Yeah that was That was crazy
Check his cookies
Is crazy
Rory let's get into
What was up with you
In that outfit man
To me
Let's talk about it
Do y'all know the outfit
That shit look warm
Y'all seen it
The sheepskin
The coat
Yeah
Savon pull that picture up please
And look at it by yourself
What was up with you
Like let's talk about it And you knew Something was up with you like let's talk about it
and you knew something was up with you because i hate i hate niggas that try to deflect from the
joke oh yeah before the jokes can happen i had to eight mile it no just post that yes you could
have i had to eight mile it so tell me tell me about about your your train of thought in this
picture why are your sleeves not in the actual coat? That's the style.
I don't know if you're trolling or being serious.
Oh, it wasn't a robe? That's the old style.
Oh, you had a robe? He had it draped over.
Yeah, she was draped over. Oh, okay.
Yeah, to secure the bag jacket.
Alright, and then the other, wait, this is only one. There's another one out here where you're
the whole one where your foot is up.
Sometimes you gotta put your foot up on the car.
Sometimes, you're right.
The bumper's right there, Paul.
Sometimes you got to put your foot up.
There we go.
Because the bumper's always right there.
Oh, and now that I'm looking at the whole picture, I see the car's a little swaggy.
Okay.
I see what you got going on here.
So, it's the car from Ghostbusters, and I almost had the caption be, I ghost on these
busters.
I should write for Fab, but I decided not to do that.
I'm glad you decided not to do that
personally
why would you want to do that
anyway
it's funny
I mean the picture was a joke
so why not do a joke
that picture was not a joke
you think I have that coat
just chilling
yes I do
I wish I did
no I wish
that was a lambskin
that was a joke
I wish I had that jacket
that was lambskin
I think so
somewhere in there
somewhere in that family
you a wolf in sheep's clothing.
That would have been a caption.
That guy would dress like a cat.
Wearing that coat was a bad decision.
That drum hit there.
Oh, damn.
I'm mad late with this.
Oh, yeah.
I'm trashed this week.
Anyway.
All right.
So let's get right into Cardi.
Is there much to talk about? it's coming
wait you know what
is it? it's coming
there's a cover
it was announced via her socials
April 6th that it is coming
but is there much to talk about?
there's no track list
this is what I wanted to start with
let me start with this
some words from Big Sean.
You know what I mean?
With music or anything I do,
I'm only putting my energy into things I love,
things I believe in.
This is what Big Sean has to say.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to cut down on the unnecessary because when people spread things
that ain't true about you, right,
or rumors or whatever,
if enough people put energy into it, it can manifest into something.
But imagine if you put that energy back into yourself in a positive way, dog.
That's a diss to you.
Think about that.
You can make dreams that's not real, real too.
You can make goals that ain't manifested yet happen.
You can make things that you thought were impossible, possible.
I seen it happen.
You know what I mean?
I seen it too.
So all my bros out there,
all my sis out there,
put your energy into things you love.
Am I wrong for hating niggas
that talk positive like this?
Yes, you are.
You're not alone.
Shut the fuck up, Dick Sean.
I hate when niggas talk positive like this.
Why?
Does this just mean that
he was really caught cheating
and he got a sex tape coming or some shit
Wait why can't he just
Spread some positivity on a negative platform
But listen to this again
Under the premise of
Maybe there's a sex tape out there somewhere
Look chapter in my life
Turn this chapter
Look
Oh come on Oh yeah I'm going to put my energy into things I love, things I believe in, things that give it back to me.
Oh, come on.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to cut down on the unnecessary.
Oh, yeah.
He's talking to his hoes.
Anyway, I'm not doing it for him.
He is a good suburban woman.
He's talking to his hoes.
Janae already hates me.
All right, Cardi, let's get into it.
Let's get into Cardi.
The album.
Is there much to really discuss?
April 6th is the date
What's her single?
Bodak Yellow
Everything
All the guest verses
24 karat gold
Records she's not even on
G-Eazy shit
Everything is her single nigga
What's your single?
I'm single
Do you think she'll put something
out before the uh the sixth i'm sure well no that's like next week right i mean there's still
days to put the sixth is next week a bunch of you uh flooded my mentions to tell me that i was wrong
and that our album was coming out uh newsflash i said that uh the week after I was wrong about it.
The second that it was confirmed that Cardi B was pregnant,
which I was right about.
Was that actually confirmed, though?
It was confirmed. It was on the Wendy Williams show, so it was confirmed.
I wouldn't use...
If Daily Mail
isn't okay, I love Wendy Williams
as the credible person.
Wendy Williams is definitely more credible than the Daily Mail.
I don't know. I don't know if I could maybe argue that. And I know nothing about the Daily Mail. No, you know a credible than the Daily Mail. I don't know. I don't know if I could maybe argue that.
And I know nothing about the Daily Mail.
No, you know a lot about the Daily Mail.
Oh, man.
Where's my Rory Trey songs drop?
Damn it.
Rest in peace.
Do I think what?
What were you asking me?
That Wendy is a really credible.
Oh, no.
We don't care about that.
Rory, shut up.
No, that she's actually pregnant.
I didn't see if it was actually confirmed the way her album was confirmed.
She's pregnant.
TMZ said it.
Wendy Williams said it.
All the major blog reporters and media people are saying that she's pregnant.
Okay.
We haven't actually seen her be pregnant, but a young lady-
Seen her be pregnant.
We haven't seen her be pregnant, but I watched Sin post a bunch of old pictures for five
months, so I mean, I can see how it's done.
Oh, yeah, yeah. I can see how it's done. Oh, yeah, yeah.
I can see how that's done.
Yeah.
I think women keep a stash of pictures just for that type of occasion.
Roy keeps sidetracking me.
What were we talking about?
Cardi's album.
Yeah, this is important shit here, man.
Okay.
She just had 30,000 people on her Insta Live this morning.
I was like, damn, that's a lot of people.
That's a lot of people.
That's a lot.
I don't think I've seen that many people on Insta Live.
Well, Cam had. Cam had
50. He had 50, not a million
people on Insta Live. 50,000 people.
Well, you don't know with the impressions.
That changes things.
No, he did have more than that.
Okay, it's more fun not
knowing whether she's pregnant or not.
Let's not know.
In my timeline,
her being pregnant has a lot to do with all of this uh i think her being pregnant is why an album is being rushed i'm gonna use that word
guys don't call my phone you think it's being rushed i know it's being rushed i don't know if
it's being rushed but i think they wanted to wait till may or june
all right so don't i don't think so don't interrupt me when i'm talking about that i know
that album is being rushed okay artistically meaning cardi has not had an album done she's
told us this the label has told everybody for the last year and a half,
anytime you asked about a Cardi album,
she has had no problem saying,
I'm not done with an album.
I don't have an album.
And even if she never said that,
we're in the music business.
So if she had some songs ready and rocking,
and don't you think we would have heard one?
Not Cardi with party. Party won a Cardi with a party.
Party all over my body.
Not that one.
She has other records.
Because that's the one
that they snuck out there
and didn't really...
So we had some other shit
in the talk.
G-Eazy shit was great.
The Bruno Mars shit was great.
She's getting a whole bunch
of big looks.
But now you're pregnant.
I think that was a...
I think.
Of course,
this is all just...
I have no information here.
Outside of she's rushing that project.
No, no.
As far as they locked her in a studio
or she locked in a studio
or right this second she's locked in a studio
or has been locked in a studio.
She could have been one or two joints away
from being completed.
Hell no.
I don't know if she needed a record right off rip
because like you said,
she had the G-Eazy shit that was still moving.
She was getting all these performance looks.
The Bruno Mars shit was going off.
They was performing that at every stop.
You don't really need to force a record yet.
Well, you know what it'll be telling is how many songs are on the album.
Well, this is telling.
Let's look at Atlantic's history for a second.
Uzi put out a bunch of records with no album,
and they didn't seem in a rush to put out an album.
Right.
That took so long that the label was ready before he was ready.
Wiz is kind of on that same run now.
He's putting out quite a few records, no album,
and they don't seem pressed to deliver an album.
They put Ty Dolla on everything all year long.
What I'm saying is Atlantic don't ever seem pressed to rush albums out.
Right.
Until now.
And I'm going to say that because I don't think they would put that album out right now
if there weren't some strenuous circumstances pending, i.e. a baby.
Yeah, you might be right.
I'm sticking to the fact that if it's like 20 songs, then probably was been working if it's like 12 songs then they probably put it
together if she has if she has 20 songs that will tell us nothing on as a debut act with a debut
on your debut album streaming climate i think you can pull songs from anywhere
she can she has her whole life of songs man Man, what does the album sound like? Fuck all this.
What does it sound like?
Probably like...
Well, that was my next point, Mo.
I'm glad you said that.
Without us knowing how it sounds,
do you love the direction?
Do you love the album artwork?
And I'm not going to be the guy
to overly obsess about album artwork.
But if you've been following Cardi's album artwork...
They're cleaning her up a bit. This looks a little different.
The cover's dope. Shout out to Nicky.
Nick Chulo.
The cover does look
really good. It just doesn't
look like her.
It's still her, but it's her cleaned up a bit.
It's not her getting head on the cover like her
mixtapes. This is her commercial.
I was just on Billboard, but I'm still trying to keep who i am i never saw her other covers so yeah
she was holding a corona getting head it was actually a pretty dope swag mixtape and she's
never lost that step throughout this whole way so so are you proving my point for me are you
telling me that i don't know what your point is My point is this is very different for her.
You jumped in to say they're cleaning her up.
She's gotten this far by not being clean.
So I'm worried about direction, which is where I was going.
Because this looks so different.
This looks a lot, and not just the clean aspect.
It just looks a lot of Missy Elliott.
It did remind me of Missy Elliott look-ish.
Yeah. A little Kim influence in there too, I think.
That's cool though.
I'm not mad at that.
But, I mean, if you look at the Bruno Mars video, they cleaned her up a bit.
No.
No way.
That is not true.
That's a fucking in living color knockoff.
There's nothing to clean.
You could be dressed a bit more provocative than that if you wanted to.
We're putting on cross-colored shit and we're jumping around.
You could have your ass out there.
She's not having her ass out next to Bruno Mars.
That's what I'm saying.
That don't mean that they cleaned her up a bit.
Like, stop.
That's my point to you.
My point is, I don't...
Saying a bit.
I'm saying a bit.
I'm not saying effort.
I didn't see effort then to make her appear more appealable.
But maybe you're right.
Maybe it was there.
Maybe they've been doing this.
When else did that still
has that attitude still has all that okay getting away from the story so now that puts me in the
mall how does the music sound in if you're if you're pulling me away from if you're pulling
me away artistically from everything that and you know what now i can see why she don't fucking
insta-live fucking sounding so sad miserable because this is this is this is why artists
sound fucking sad and miserable
when you gotta come out and deal with all this bullshit.
This is bullshit. I'd be mad if I was her.
Why?
You don't think the image is her image?
I've been saying probably
for about
eight months I think Cardi's been doing
things really against her
own will. You don't think it's growth?
I was going to say, maybe she's not
stripping anymore, so her rhymes may
change a bit. That was
vulgar, but because she's not stripping...
If you listen to her first few mixtapes, she was
rapping about stripping. She hasn't been doing that for quite
some time, so things are going to change. She's dating
one of the biggest rappers in the world. She does still rap about stripping.
She's with Bruno Mars. The whole G-Eazy
hook is about stripping. Yes's with Bruno Mars. The whole G-Eazy hook is about stripping.
Yes or no?
No, yes.
Fucking nigga gets on the table.
What is he talking about?
Don't worry.
What are you just here to argue with me?
We're saying the same thing in different ways somehow.
I'm saying if I were an avid Cardi B fan,
and we've supported her.
She's a friend of the show.
Billie is an enemy of the show.
If I were an avid Cardi B fan, the cover would worry me.
But I was never the guy to dig too much into covers.
I'm only doing it now because I don't rap anymore and we have a podcast.
I always said, let's just go by the music.
But I think that the cover story and everything we're saying here is tied into why we are going into this album without a single.
the cover story and everything we're saying here is tied into why we are going into this album without a single.
I think it's tied into why we are,
have to guess how music sounds from arguably the hottest rapper out.
They're using her buzz as,
as the single is Takashi six,
nine,
the hottest rapper out.
You can make that claim.
Yeah.
I think you can make that argument pretty easily.
I don't think he's the hottest rapper.
Not for music, but he's hot. Just his name name yeah yeah i'm not saying for music yeah his name
he is the hottest rapper all right for sure he's up these past two weeks i think it'd be hard to
argue otherwise all right let's not get to him because i do want to discuss him um
back back to cardi yeah i would be worried about about not hearing any music but i support cardi
and i support kaiser and i support Kaiser and I support Atlantic.
So I don't want to say anything that sounds like I'm not.
I'm pretty sure it's going to be some good music on there.
It would have to be.
They got all the money in the world.
They can get Mike Will and whoever they want.
And I'm sure people are waiting in line to work with her too.
So it's not like her resources are limited with people that want to work with her.
So I don't doubt it.
I think there'll be some good records on here.
I think they'll get two solid singles out of it.
Cardi has been going on a rant.
She went on a Twitter rant earlier this morning.
Or maybe that was yesterday morning.
And she was basically saying how she's busted her ass, which she has.
And she's basically done everything herself and her team, and that's it.
And I hope that's true.
I hope that's true, because let me take this out of speaking about Cardi for two seconds, because I don't want people to just attach everything I'm saying to that. I know that when you are the premier act at a label,
which she is,
that some money is spent.
I know that.
For sure.
And I know that,
and I've heard it from a few other people in that building
that she is dependent upon to keep the lights on for a second.
So with that said,
what does she need to sell?
And that's the only reason I'm thinking about numbers.
Y'all know I'm not a numbers guy.
I don't give a fuck about numbers.
But I have to think about numbers to think about what makes the label happy.
Because if I think that this is manufactured, all of this momentum and I support Cardi, then I want it to continue.
So I have to look for the number that will help it to continue or the number
that I think will cease it altogether.
Because unfortunately, I think that is
a reality that a lot of artists have to deal with.
If a certain number does not come
back, your machine
is ceasing altogether.
Your fans will think that
you just fell off and you're corny and you're whack
now. They'll have no idea that there's even a machine.
They don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
I see her doing like a buck 50-ish, maybe.
I think she has to.
You think so?
I mean, I think anything under 100 looks a little funny.
But maybe not, because she doesn't have a single.
So if it comes out and doesn't do great, but then she comes with a smash single right behind it, then maybe it's a lifetime.
I think 85 isn't that bad.
If she comes in at 85 and does a slow build and it doesn't drop significantly the second week, that's not that bad.
If she comes in at 85, I'm going to say congratulations and I will closely monitor the second week.
Yeah.
Well, if you come in at 85, second week is really your telling.
If she comes in at 85,
and we're prophesying a bit here,
and the second week drops to 30 or below,
we're going to have a hard time
getting a second Cardi project.
Depending what she does after.
Not depending on nothing.
I'm looking at Atlantic's track record.
This has nothing to do with Cardi.
Cardi will be the reincarnation of K. Michelle.
I guarantee you that K. Michelle's first budget
and that last budget are different budgets.
That's not a knock on K. Michelle.
I love K. Michelle.
But that's just the way of doing business.
I mean, of course, Atlantic put a lot of money into Bodak Yellow.
But it caught without Atlantic.
Atlantic hopped on and said, all right, let's push this to the next level.
So Cardi is always capable of having her cult following catch something and it build a bit.
Not to interrupt you, because I want you to continue that.
But I'm going to forget this.
Slick move there, Safaree.
Because that 100 record really is Bodak Yellow.
That's not the same record?
It's pretty close.
That is the same exact.
I haven't heard it.
Slow it down.
Just slow it down.
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah, congratulations.
Good move, Safari.
Slick ass nigga.
You know the dance, right?
No. I move, Safari. Slick-ass nigga. You know the dance, right? No.
I think I do.
I'm joking, Mo.
Oh, okay.
Real ball.
Me and you got to have homie court a little bit.
We can have homie court, bro.
For the last few podcasts and a few people pointed out,
you've been looking at me with a little that eye that you just gave me.
Damn, you just said you think you know the Safari dance.
Do you think I'm doing the fucking safari hunting dance?
I was waiting for you to say what you were saying.
Hunting on this in the crib with Lexington.
What are you talking about?
That's your man, so I'm ready to know.
That's your guy.
You're not going to post a video on IG?
Support the movement?
No, I'm not supporting the movement, and that is my nigga.
I do support the movement, though.
I'm just not doing the dance.
So you're not really supporting the movement?
Not on camera. Is this on the docket? It do support the movement, though. I'm just not doing the dance. So you're not really supporting the movement? Not on camera.
Is this on the docket?
It's on the docket now.
No, I'm not doing the dance.
Safari's right there on the docket.
Look.
No, it's not.
I'm not doing the dance.
What dance did you do, nigga?
I don't dance.
All right.
All right, G.
You definitely dance.
Guess what dance we put in?
No, don't.
You didn't do a dance at all?
I'm not even going to tell the story.
You never Aunt Jackie'd?
What dance?
On Lennox?
No.
What's the Aunt Jackie?
The Aunt Jackie.
I don't even have an aunt named Jackie.
What's the Aunt Jackie?
You remember the Aunt Jackie?
It was around the chicken noodle soup, Tom.
Oh, no.
I wasn't dancing then.
I was fucking with killers by then.
Yo, I was dancing.
Me and Dub B was dancing ass niggas.
And then we just, all that changed.
We never bust another move ever, ever again.
But I'm saving that for the documentary.
Come on, back to, back to.
That's going to be a funny ass documentary the joe button documentary
really is gonna be the best documentary ever for reasons i can't say that's funny uh what the
fuck oh cardi yeah i think even if she does fall off on that second week significantly she has
shown that she can make a single and her cult can build it up and then atlanta can put money to
bring it to the next level so i'm not going to take her all the way out when she's proven herself
in creating that's proven nothing just now it has she's proven herself in creating a single world.
That's proven nothing.
Just now it has.
That's proven nothing at all
in the music business.
You have to do it twice
in the music business.
Of course.
And I'm saying she's capable of.
Well, yeah, she's capable of.
That's what I'm saying.
I think she'll do well.
What's well?
Put a number on it.
A buck and a quarter.
A buck fifty.
I got her at 85.
Okay.
I got to have her at over a buck twenty a quarter. A buck fifty. I got her at eighty-five. Okay. I got to have her
at over a buck twenty-five.
I'm giving her
a buck thirty.
Okay.
And I think they're happy.
Yeah.
First week?
Yeah, first week.
Buck thirty?
First week, buck thirty, yeah.
I got to.
I think if Bodak Yellow's
on there alone,
we're not going to have an issue.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, if that's...
Got to factor that in.
Got to factor that in. I forgot they count that in.
Bodak Yellow's in there.
Fuse was quadruple platinum from one dance
the day it came out. I forgot about that stream.
Alright, yeah. I'm raising my shit up to
120. No, no, no. You phony.
Okay, I'm phony. I'm raising it up to 120.
I'll say
90, 95. She might push
two, actually, with that being said.
With that factored in, Bodak Yellow, however many
billions of streams that's got.
Bodak Yellow has a lot of streams.
She might hit two off Rip. No problem.
Shout out to streams.
They're going to fix that little cheat code at some point.
They have to. They have to address it.
Not by April 6th, so.
No, 100%.
Alright, round of applause for Cardi B.
Good for her. We do think she's going to do real well.
Now, back to Tekashi being the hottest rapper out.
I have been forced to pay attention now.
Yeah, of course.
I listened to the tape.
I listened to it before I saw the interview.
I like it.
You guys know I try my best to not pay attention when the industry tries to make us pay attention.
Right.
I try to wait, see if I can catch him another time.
So now I'm paying attention.
And I kind of like the kid, man.
That's how I felt.
That's how I felt.
I hate to be the adult.
Yeah, that's how I felt.
Like him or the music?
I don't like him,
so let me take it back.
But I do.
I like what he was talking about
in the interview.
Yeah.
I think he's doing,
I think he is misguided.
I mean, he's young,
he's wild.
I think he's doing,
I think that he is,
this is his version of integrity.
I guess I understand it.
The funny shit is,
I don't even think he's wild.
You don't think he's wild? I think a lot lot of this i think a lot of his actions are reactions that's true well not even he even specifically said that he trolls which i don't i don't follow his social
media so i don't know everybody trolls no doubt but i i feel like a lot of his actions why people
are mad at him are reactions to shit that people have said about him and things that
you know people are trying to do to him it's just him reacting and he's what 21 yeah i agree with
there's a there's a clear there's a clear disconnect that exists generationally specifically
when we're talking about technology i've experienced that disconnect firsthand that
disconnect is what got me punched in the face and in my wu-tang beef back then i was takashi back then last decade i was the person who who
fully understood the internet and the changings that it had on it on the business and the older
people maybe did not you understand what i'm saying so takashi today yeah it's trolling because that is in a language right he is is
speaking to people are understanding that people came away from that charlemagne interview with a
whole different perspective than i had yeah me too like because i think they all saw the snippets and
i think if you watch the snippet as with most things you get a different sense because a lot
of the shit he cleaned up like even when they were talking about the underage allegations,
like, the snippet didn't show you when he actually described
what happened in the situation.
Well, that's what I'm walking through.
I guess when I watched the interview the first time,
I perfectly understood Charlemagne, and I just enjoyed the interview.
It wasn't until I watched it a second and third time that I felt like damn Takashi had control of this interview the entire
time yeah I missed that the first time somehow I got that from Rip he came right in there talking
this shit how how did that work he came right in there talking so that told me that this kid is not as stupid
as I maybe thought that he was at some point
and that reminded me of someone else
who we all thought was really really stupid
when they first came out
and I said damn why is Tekashi reminding me of 50 Cent
but we damn sure thought 50 was kind of stupid when he first came out.
Boy, were we wrong.
That was like a strategy.
Yeah.
And then he said it.
He said, you just got to make them think you're stupid.
You can't let them know you're smart.
Right.
So I was like, damn, Takashi took control of this whole room.
And I think that that is a room full of savvy radio veterans.
And regardless how you feel about Envy, Angela, and Charlamagne,
them niggas got years in radio.
That little kid shouldn't have had control of that room like that.
So they had to just be unprepared for that energy.
Because if they were prepared.
And I think he's good.
I think he knows.
That's why he's successful.
He knows how to work a room, whether it's online or in person.
He's playing the new game.
And he's playing it the best.
And he didn't go in there
and promote a fucking song.
No, not really.
He said not one word about music.
Well, a little bit.
He talked about...
It casually came up.
But that's him playing that game now.
Of course, the music is important,
but that's not what's important
to the people he's catering to.
No, that's him backing up
his every fucking word of, listen, I'm i and he could be trolling when he say i don't know who y'all are
what y'all do of course you know who they are and what they do but when you when you go up there and
do not utilize the platform to sell records and you just go and say all right i'm here to straighten
out the shit let's get right to the shit let's hear the shit i'm not here for music and then he
says it y'all need me here yo this is gonna be your biggest interview i laughed when he said that
i didn't i knew it would be i laughed as of recently i said this is tough that kid does
numbers i said god damn this nigga got the breakfast club all the way fucked up man i said
and this is before they said it i said he don't know that that baby shit did like eight nine
million and then they said it and i said said, all right, they on their shit.
And then that little nigga said, just watch.
And I said, oh, he's stupid.
And then I wanted to watch.
So the next day I clicked on it.
Know what it said?
You guessed it.
Four million.
24 hours.
It was headed to five.
It was like 4.6 or something.
He knows what he's doing, man.
And that's when I said, holy shit.
Is he the hottest rapper out?
Like, I'm disconnected.
So when people say that, I'm so used to people saying that as a ploy.
I'm so used to people saying that as like a marketing type of thing.
But I don't think he's going up there. I'm not used to people saying that as like a marketing type of thing. But I don't think he's going up there
I'm not used to people saying it and it
being true really.
I'm used to there being some type of fight
when it... So now I can
see why niggas is a little aggy and a little tight.
And hey, don't take
anything I'm saying as a cosign of all the stupid
shit that nigga's doing. He's violating a lot of shit.
That's what I think. I do think he's violating...
He's playing a dangerous game. He's violating the code and you're getting all of those views because there are a lot of interested. He's violating a lot of shit. That's what I think. I do think he's violating, he's playing a dangerous game. He's violating the code
and you're getting all of those views
because there are a lot of interested parties.
There's a lot of parties interested
to see what you have to say
as the dangerous game.
I would not want those views.
It's shock value shit though.
People are watching it
thinking that he was going to say
something crazy and outlandish
and he actually went up there
and gave a great interview
and said some things
that made people look at him
like oh this kid
is really not stupid at all.
My thing is now
I think he's in the best position
he can be in
if he gets with some dope producers
and actually puts out
some dope fucking music.
He just put out a project.
I know but I'm talking about
like really
I'm talking about
really really like
get into like artist mode.
You know what I'm saying?
Like if he really
like focuses on
his art and music he's in a dope position right now to win i mean he's winning but i was gonna
say it seems like he's winning off of light but but just like chaos and noise right now yeah but
that's sometimes that's what wins for people yeah that's dangerous chaos and noise that i agree he's
getting not only chaos and noise though he is selling is selling records. Right. It's good music for the most part.
And his records are on...
What's the shit that all the rappers say?
I hate when they say it.
I got five records on the Hot 100.
Oh, my.
Shut the fuck up.
Nobody would ever know what was on the Hot 100
if y'all didn't tell us constantly.
There's no day that I wake up and say,
hmm, what are the top 10
on the hot 100
right now
well they usually
talk about hip hop too
not the billboard 100
hey whatever man
no it's great
I'm just
the top one
hot 100
that's what made
Cardi so great
because it was on
like the real
that is such a
that is such a
that is such an
inflated stat
whatever
wins a win bro
anyway
I just think that
it's some scary behavior and I'm starting to sound like my mom and shit.
That's just terrifying that this is showing people that that type of behavior is getting these results.
Yeah, but—
Which is this climate.
I don't think Tekashi started this.
I think he's capitalized on it better than anybody else because that is the era now.
Let's do as much shocking shit as we can on camera, and it'll go viral.
People will pay attention to us.
So when you use keywords like test my gangster and suck my dick, it's a bit different in the energy you might get back than just going viral.
And that's my only issue with the whole thing.
Well, maybe we're just a bunch of scared niggas saying that.
That could be true.
Maybe he ready for that type of action
so that's how he giving it up.
Could be true. Exactly.
I mean, that exists.
I mean, I
wouldn't. I just don't know.
But at the same time, he always says... I have no problem saying
that I wouldn't do it.
I never know when he is serious
because he always says, I'm trolling, this is a troll,
but I'm not trolling.
What is to be taken seriously and what is not?
See, I don't know enough of his history to know how drastic these trolls have been.
I know a lot of people don't like him as far as...
Because I don't know when he says, I don't know anything about the Breakfast Club, which is a troll, obviously, and then says, come test my gangster.
In the same sentence, I don't know.
I'm just a bit lost in what's real
and what's not
and there's always
going to be someone
that doesn't care
if it's real or not.
They're just going to
meet that energy.
That's true.
Profound,
profound there, Rory.
Thanks.
That's all I got.
Mo, what's up?
What's up with you?
Why are you a man
of so many words today?
No, I was listening to you
I mean, you know
I agree with a lot of things that y'all said
But I want to see him focus more on his music though
I agree
I think he does have talent
I agree
You know what I'm saying?
But I want to see him focus more on his music
And really making bigger records
Because a lot of his records
are like a minute and 40 seconds
and two minutes.
I want him to really make records
with hooks and,
you know what I mean?
Real hip-hop rap records.
Even though I know
he's not a rappity rap guy.
Yeah, but you can still do that.
But he's not a mumble rapper.
I was shocked when I went
to listen to his music.
I was like,
oh, this shit is all right.
Yeah, he's rapping.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think Charlamagne had made a comparison with a little Onyx in him,
and I got that from him as well.
So I'm curious to see where this goes.
That's all.
Did we get official word about that Craig Mack sex cult thing?
The Daily Mail.
All right, no, no, no.
I'm done with that.
All right, so here we are.
Hey. All right, So, all right. Here we are. Hey.
All right.
It's time out.
No, let's not play this just yet.
I want to try to create a timeline for this Eric Bellinger and Tory Lanez beef.
But I don't have any.
I don't have one.
I miss that.
There's a lot of&B from that record?
Oh, my God.
You have no idea, buddy.
I saw it in the group chat, but I'm not the quickest to click an R&B link.
But if I would have known there was some beef behind it.
Oh, yeah.
We got action.
I would have been excited.
Let me find this record that I'm looking for.
Just a Craig Mack update.
Daily News just covered it as well.
So it's a bit better than the Daily Mail, I suppose.
It's probably the same
publication. It's the news over the mail?
I don't know, man.
Either way. Alright, so this is
the record I was looking for.
This record
is called Don't Look Down.
And this came out, maybe I want to
say two years ago, and this is Eric Bellinger featuring Tory Lanez. And this came out maybe I want to say two years ago.
And this is Eric Bellinger featuring Tory Lanez.
And I was always confused as to why this record didn't get pushed at all
or didn't get any burn.
It kind of just got swept under the rug.
But it's hard.
But it's hard.
For those of you that don't know, Eric Bellinger has been on the scene for quite some time.
He's pinned a lot of your favorite records.
Let's go E. anyway my point in playing that record that record was real hard when it came out and then we never heard anything again about this
collaboration about this record about the meeting or anything and i thought that was strange even then
and here we are today now i don't know why they're beefing today so that's why i said i can't create
a timeline on my own well he suggested that there was subs being oh tori has been dissing eric
bellinger that that's true that happened eric Bellinger is not just looking for smoke, I would hope.
Savon, find out why Tori...
Brandon is saying that Tori stole his ad libs.
His ad libs?
Oh, yeah, they were beefing about like an ad lib or something like that, right?
I guess.
I mean, you can't just take someone's ad lib.
Who will R.B. niggas beef about?
Ad libs are pretty important now
Look at the Migos
Listen
I can make a case that the R&B niggas
Are way tougher than the rap niggas man
If I look at all R&B niggas
They get it poppin' on site
The rap niggas wanna make little Instagram vids and shit
Trey Songz has altercations with niggas
August Alsina has altercations with niggas Omarion has altercations with niggas. August Alsina has altercations with niggas.
Omarion has altercations with niggas.
Chris Brown, Frank Ocean.
The list goes on and on of the R&B niggas who get it popping on site.
Not wrong.
And I can name some more, but that's beside the point.
Tory Lanez has altercations.
But beside the point.
Now, Eric Bellinger, who I just learned has a project coming out.
So, all right, are we judging him on that?
Are we judging him for starting beef right before a project comes out?
I did it a few summers ago.
Who hasn't done that?
But my only thing was he didn't have to watch, I guess, his strategic marketing.
He just kept saying the project's name over and over during the diss record.
Yeah, that's strategic marketing.
So let's play the record.
So for those of you who are late to the party,
Eric Bellinger took one of the beats,
one of the better beats from Tory Lanez album.
And God damn, man.
He had a lot to say.
Which Tory also bought this record.
Yeah, but, and that's why it's a cheat code
when a nigga takes your beat
and does something after you did it.
Even if you bodied it,
they're going to catch the body,
the additional body.
Hmm.
Cardi B signs with Migos' management quality control.
That's very interesting.
She changed squads.
Uh-oh.
I think they've been doing her business in the background for a little while,
but I don't have any evidence or proof of that.
I just felt like Coach K was really helping her out.
Coaching the situation?
Yeah.
This ends bad.
You think this ends bad?
How so?
I think it's good for right now, at least.
Oh, it's great for right now.
It's a conflict of interest.
I agree.
It's a conflict of interest.
I mean, just tell me how it stands.
But, all right, I'm not even talking about that.
We're done with Carter right now.
But, I mean, I'm happy for him, and I hope that I'm wrong.
Yeah.
Let's see.
What are we talking about?
Oh, all right.
So, yeah, he had a lot to say about about uh mr lanes okay let me cock it back
this is the
and he killed amani
memories don't die but i can't say the same for you
I've been on a positive vibe, but this ain't how to do
I'm down for getting dirty, boy, I came from the trench
Too pussy to say my name, but I heard the description
It sure fit, so I put an outfit on that matches perfect
This shit was an easy call, ain't no need for hearses
Give them what they demand, bury you where you stand
What kind of nigga is proud
To copy another man?
First time you stole my shit
I never mind
It wasn't stressing
Second time you did it
Okay, now this needs addressing
Like any artist with my track
How hard I thought you would
I just said that you was
Focused on the cards
I don't know a person
That can make it through the challenges
I see on the daily, nigga
You don't know how bad it is
We live in a day and age where they don't know what talent is
Your only talent is mimicking anyone that's talented
You got the choir coming in?
You had to change your heart the day after your album dropped
Stole a vibe from Trey Songz, took a blow from T-Dog
You sound like Petty Wap, damn it, Tory, when will it stop?
To be honest with you, I take from a lot of music.
Easy call, don't know it.
Easy call, don't know it.
Bellinger, my gunshots are really adding to this.
Yours is trash.
Fires for a second album, you still on that same shit. You still on the same shit, nigga?
Sucking on that Drake, dude.
It's all bad for you, I'm sympathetic.
You even stole the song, you dissed me Oh man That's pathetic
That's pathetic
Sing that shit G
No
No It's war time, best believe we ain't on no true shit Before your next move, think twice Cause that bum ass album you got could be your life
That's on crisis, plenty ways it could go
I'm disrespectful, bro
Grand on your head, had some of your old friends become new foes
For me the goals, pull a pack in pieces and kill things
Drop you like a bad connection, you know it's the real thing
With stains on your shirt, screaming out, it hurts
First you hear that yack, yuck. Then after that skirt skirt.
You got to get better gunshots.
Nah, he bodied the skirt skirt.
I love the skirt skirt.
Just me with the skirt skirt?
Nah, he killed skirt skirt.
The gunshots are so awful.
Imani has to reply.
He killed Amani and Tori.
Now, I'm shutting up because I have a relationship
with Tori.
Eric's not your man too?
Eric is my man.
Okay.
So.
You're the only one
that could resolve this.
But this is what I don't like. Bring the peace, Joe. Yeah I like, but this is what I don't like.
Bring the piece,
Joe.
Yeah,
come on.
You got what I don't like about entertainers,
right?
Like they both,
my mans.
Um,
but if you rock,
rock too hard one way,
then you know,
somebody might feel the way I can't really enjoy that.
Well,
we got to wait for Tori's response.
Is Tori replying to that?
You can't even reply to that.
I don't think he is. He's going to sound
just like this.
He's going to reply.
He's going to take the same beat.
That's his beat.
Y'all tell me what y'all think
of Eric Bellinger's claims.
He said a lot of shit.
This is shit that we've known, though.
He just said it to refresh it
To know it and say it
Yeah he just addressed it
He fed up man
And don't speak for all of us nigga
You knew that
That him and Tory had a
Had a beef
Oh no I knew that
But I'm saying he said a lot
Outside of that
I think he was talking to
Tory has said on record
As he took his
Clips in there
I think he was talking to Tory
And what's her name though
Q McCall The McCall kid I think he was talking to Tori. What's her name though?
Q McCall.
The McCall kid.
I think he was talking to both of them.
A lot of it is that Tori, but I think a couple of those balls was for.
Kevin McCall.
Kevin McCall.
Kevin McCall.
I pray for Kevin McCall.
Yeah.
Super talented dude.
Who's better, Tori or Eric?
My preference goes towards Eric.
As soon as niggas start throwing out words like preference.
I mean, Tori's a bigger artist.
Yeah, I mean, Tori, if you're going to go for a hit, I mean, I know Eric can write hits,
but he's definitely chose the less hits for himself for catalog.
But Tori is probably clearly the more popular and hit-making artist.
I asked you who the better artist was.
I don't care about all that shit.
Eric is the better artist.
Yeah, Eric is definitely better. I don't think that's much of a contest
so you maul you have tory replying to this yes he's gonna somehow he's gonna sound like this no he's probably gonna get an arab beat you can't he can't rap you can't rap against no
eric bellinger's harmony he's gonna have the choir you can't rap. He can't rap. You can't rap against Eric Bellinger's harmonies.
He's coming back rapping.
He better have harmonies.
He's coming back rapping.
He's going to have the choir.
You can't rap hard against
damn it, Tori,
when we let's die.
You can't do it.
Nah, but Tori likes to rap.
I know,
but you can't rap
when a nigga is singing to you.
I don't know.
Yeah, he got to,
Tori, you got to come back.
Unless you beefing with Drake.
He got to come back singing, man.
I don't want to hear
no Jamaican accent. I don't wanna hear no
no Jamaican accent
I don't wanna hear none of that
I would bar up so he couldn't reply
you gotta sing
that's exactly what he's gotta do
I'd rap him to death
come reply to my raps
word
remember when
I don't know if y'all remember
but that was a real worry of mine
like
sending mad hard ass bars to Drake
and then he actually sings something to you
like that is the
biggest sign of disrespect
ever.
Don't sing a bar at me
my nigga.
For real I'm gonna be mad.
I'll be mad.
Alright so I mean
R&B is funny.
I think Tory might throw
a sub again
or a low shot.
I don't think he's gonna
Yo all the R&B niggas
hate each other
on the low man.
They all hate each other.
Damn. Damn. Cause most R&B niggas hate each other on the low, man. They all hate each other. Damn.
Damn.
Because most R&B dudes are insecure.
Uh-oh.
All right.
All right.
We've taken a turn.
No, it's the truth.
They're insecure.
They've dealt with the same women somewhere, so that's always a little issue.
All the rappers and singers.
But no, R&B is like 100%, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They really be in love
with these women like rappers have women in common like just in dating but they'd be like
come on you can't harmonize about the same girl
come on no yeah but but r&b is different but it's different when you harmonize about the
yeah like r&b r&b singers are different when it comes to the women they've dated.
Like they five years removed and they still don't want those girls dealing with anybody.
It's like, are you serious?
Rappers is kind of like, man, whatever.
I don't know these days.
Judge who's worse out of the athletes, the rappers, and the singers on falling in love and cuffing and all that.
Let's hear it.
That's a nice little topic we bumped into by mistake.
Who's worse?
Are the rappers, athletes?
You already said that the singers, they fall in love worse than the rappers.
Yeah, but athletes I think are the worst.
Athletes aren't the worst.
I would say R&B singers are the worst.
And then rappers and then athletes.
You got rappers before the athletes?
Only because athletes, what athletes do a lot more of is they do a lot of tricking.
Because they have more money than singers and rappers.
So they do a lot of tricking just to get the chick.
But a lot of times, once athletes are done with the chick, they don't give a fuck.
Singers, they really like,
they think that woman is theirs forever.
Yeah, I'm going back to that.
I watched seven rappers make 18 IG videos
about India love.
These new age rappers might be the worst.
Yeah, I'm glad that you said that.
I mean, it's a lot of them
that these niggas put a lot of stock into, man.
They like that indie love a lot.
Yeah, they do.
That's all I'm going to say.
Mo, how you feel about indie love, man?
She's attractive.
I think she's real pretty.
No?
I'm alone in the room with that?
No, I think she's pretty.
Oh, okay.
I've never seen her in person, but from her pictures, yeah.
No, she looks attractive.
She's real pretty. What's okay. Y'all niggas sound like I'm- I've never seen her in person, but from her pictures, yeah. No, she looks attractive. She's real pretty.
What's that twin?
Is it Tia?
What's the twin that YG or Yo Gotti wanted?
Tia Mowry?
Oh, uh-
Who's the twin?
Rev Run's daughter.
Is it really?
Oh, Angela Simmons?
Yeah.
No, then I'm not thinking about her.
I'm not thinking-
Sister, sister.
Is who?
Oh, uh, Tia-
Is the Mowry girl.
Yeah.
Is one of them girls that niggas overrate to?
Oh, I didn't even know
they were.
It was one of them
Maori twos.
Yeah, I thought
they were like
out of the pool
already.
Wait, what?
What did you say?
I thought they was
I didn't know
they had a history.
I had no idea.
Yeah, I thought
they was out of the pool.
Is that what you just said?
Out of the pool.
No, I didn't know either.
Ah, don't back away
from the funny.
What'd you say, nigga?
I thought they was wholesome.
Oh, I thought you said something totally different
what did you just say
the hoe twins
I thought they was
no I thought they
I didn't know they had a rep I thought they was both married
with kids no well now they are
yeah
you know this is my thing
now they are
this is my thing with the India Love thing
she's bad
and I guess this is my problem with just
today and the internet period
you ever bump into somebody
or you ever just be walking by somebody
in the streets and
you recognize them from like the internet
somehow and then suddenly
you realize wow this person
has no idea I know all of their
business yes i have so with that said that's where india love falls on my list when i think of her
i know way too much of her business just from my instagram feed like her and game were in the park
on that sunny day one time in the grass i That was day. I wasn't even mad at game.
I wasn't mad at game either.
No,
a finger pop the chick at the park.
The bowling alley was my thing.
It's a good spot.
I hope you,
I hope you sanitize your fingers.
That's disgusting.
Definitely not a good spot for a girl to get finger.
I'm joking.
First of all,
I'm joking. I didn't do anything in a bowling alley. I'm joking, first of all. I'm joking.
I didn't do anything in a bowling alley.
I'm not.
You take my character.
No, no, no.
I'm just saying that's a wild place if a girl is getting finger banged.
The bowling alley is crazy.
You know how dirty those bowling balls are?
Pretty dirty.
You can put a thumb in a ball and then put the thumb in your.
Come on, man.
Well, I got my own bowling balls.
They're still dirty.
Still dirty.
All right.
All right. All right.
What were we talking about?
I actually...
That conversation just went everywhere.
Oh, we were talking about
Tori and Eric.
Who?
Oh, Tori and Eric.
Tori and Eric.
All right, I've been off that.
Like he never heard of Tori and Eric.
Who?
No, I didn't hear what he said, man.
Oh, okay.
That's all.
All right, let's see.
Let me look at my shit
yeah you was the one
saying you had the list
on lock this week
can't even open the shit
oh shit I mean
I don't really want to
report about Burr
getting robbed
but I mean that happened
yeah
but
did you talk to him
yeah I hit him immediately
just to make sure
he was alright
he alright
and he said he was alright
so I was alright after that
cool alright I wanted to know more but I did not ask so like just to make sure he was aight and he said he was aight so I was aight after that cool
aight
I wanted to know more
but I did not ask
so like
what
yo so
so like
I thought that
I thought that
mine and his friendship
was dope enough
that he would just
render it
but once he just
nah I'm good
like yo so
yeah
like
like so
yeah once he just said what happened man yo nah I'm straight I yo so Yeah Like so What happened man
Yo nah I'm straight
I was like alright
I'm gonna fuck it then
So nah Burg is fine
But I don't know what happened
I'd like to know
How niggas got in that studio
That's the only question I had
Like how niggas get in that studio
Well nevermind
Do you know who did it or something
Why you all
It was Mo
What's up I don't know nothing about it or something? Why you all It was Maul I don't know What Maul was
I mean what's up
I don't know nothing about it
Maul has been
I had niggas
Well then
Act normal then
No I don't know
I don't know nothing about it
I thought it was
You know
Crazy when they
Seen that little clip
That a nigga still recording
But whatever
I think he dropped his phone
And it was still
That's what I
Thought I saw
Unless it was a longer one
Do y'all want to talk about
Jeezy retiring
should we call it ice
we just spoke about
rappers retiring
last week
I don't believe it
the curse continues
wait
we retired Jeezy
no but I mean
the curse continues
we definitely were talking
about rappers retiring
yeah
and now Jeezy announces
that his next project
will be his last
I don't believe it you gotta love his last. I don't believe it.
Yeah, I don't know
if I believe it.
I don't believe it.
Tell me more.
I don't really believe it.
I think there's still...
Well, Maul has already
told us his stance
on when rappers
say they're retired.
He never believes it.
I agree with him.
So, tell me why
you don't believe
this one in particular.
Just because I don't
see him doing a lot of
media stuff.
Name one rapper
that said he was retiring
and is still retired. Maul, I want to deal with this as an isolated case and me. I just don't believe this one in particular. Just because I don't see him doing a lot of media stuff. Name one rapper that said he was retiring and is still retired.
Maul, I want to deal with this as an isolated case.
And me.
Me?
I don't see him running around doing a lot of media stuff or anything.
I have not rapped since I announced retirement.
You're not retired.
See?
I agree with Maul.
If Maul's just into now.
He's not retired.
You're not retired.
But what has to happen for you to finalize it?
Death?
No. I mean, you're just not retired. Tupac ain not retired. You're not retired. But what has to happen for you to finalize it? Death? No.
I mean, you're just not retired.
Tupac ain't retired yet.
You're just doing something else right now, but you will indeed go back to music because
that is what is you are music.
You are a rapper before you are anything else.
You're an artist before you're anything else.
I'm other things first.
You're a dickhead first, but you're a rapper.
You're definitely an artist before you're.
You know what I mean?
That's your love.
That's what puts you in this position to do other things. you're a dickhead first but you're a rapper you're definitely an artist before you you know what I mean that's your love that's your
that's what puts you
in this position
to do other things
so you can never
just totally abandon that
that's always
I don't look at retirement
like I'm never doing
that again though
that's what retirement is
that's what retirement means
that's not the nigga
Michael Jordan is retired
he is never gonna play
in the NBA ever again
I just saw that nigga
in baggy jeans
crossing over
a woman teacher
no I'm talking about
I'm talking about playing professionally that's how. No, I'm talking about playing professionally.
That's how bored he is.
I'm talking about playing professionally.
Playing professionally.
If a firefighter retires and he walked down the street and there's a fire,
God damn it, he's going to fight it.
If he got a pension, I don't know.
I might just walk past that shit.
Right.
I believe that Jeezy is retiring.
I don't see another.
Well, give me Jeezy.
Give me another reason why he would announce this then.
Or maybe y'all saying he just don't know it yet. Yeah, he don't see another well give me Jeezy give me another reason why he would announce this then or maybe y'all saying
he just don't know it yet
yeah he don't know it yet
he may feel like
it's time to close
and he's done enough
Jay said the Black album
was his last album
plus he also said
something about the
last class
it personally makes me feel
like he's just retiring
that's what I'm saying
he's closing that
everybody knew
Hov was lying
back then
but that's what I'm saying you knew it too Everybody knew Hov was lying Back then But that's what I'm saying
You knew it too
Every rapper is lying
When they say they're retired
And Mo knows
Where the 92 bricks are
And I don't know anything
About 92
But I'm just
I know that when rappers
Say they're retired
You're not retired
You just want to
Start doing other shit
But one day
You'll be back
And you'll drop a teaser
Somewhere
But niggas have been
Saying that about
Andre 3000
For the last 15 years
But he never said He's not But he never said he was retired.
He just did it.
Oh, y'all beef is with people saying it.
Yeah.
Of course.
Yeah, don't announce that you're doing music and then put music out.
Y'all are so fucking frivolous.
That's y'all beef?
That you announce it?
You can't announce in retirement as an artist.
A rapper has to announce it.
I mean, Joe, you announced
your retirement
and then we went on tour again.
No, we didn't.
Yeah, we did.
What tour?
The Rage Tour.
He said he was retiring
Joe Budden
and coming back as Rage.
Yeah.
This nigga was stinking.
This nigga was stinging
with the mask
with the paint on his face.
Exactly who he was.
This nigga's crazy.
He was Beyonce
to Sasha Fierce.
Sasha Fierce.
What's up?
Joe, I could see you coming back as that, though.
Joey Fierce.
Joey Fierce.
Joey Fierce.
Joey Fierce.
I could see that.
No, we are not.
I could see that for you.
Dom De Monco.
You added a Dom De Monco. When can see that for you. You added a Don DeMonco.
When you did that?
Today.
I want to know where you was.
That's when we all do a little funny joke.
I wish we had a better cut.
I didn't know it sounded like that.
Sounds much cooler during the battle.
Sounds way better.
Oh, go on, Parks
That's horrible
Anyway
What was that Don DeMarco
You just did?
That was a cool one
Joey Fierce
Who said that?
I don't even know who said that
I said that, god damn it
Take your credit, Parks
I am
Get your Don DeMarco off
Joey Fierce
Alright
What else was really important?
Something else really
Oh, Chris Brown announced a tour.
That's important because I would assume he's doing his new album.
So I would assume the tour has to be at least nine hours.
If you have nine hours free, make sure you head out there.
If you're not doing anything for the week.
Yeah.
One stop is a week.
Chris Brown's going on tour.
Now, he announced...
Who was opening with him?
Her, Black, and Rich.
Oh, my God.
Which scares me a bit
because this is the second time
Her is going on tour
with somebody
and I wish she would stop
so she could make music
and put it out.
Oh, wait now.
Oh, okay, wait.
I knew about this
because I tried to book Black
for Oh, What a Night.
And he told me
to get the fuck out of here
because I'm going on tour with
chris brown but don't tell nobody so okay that makes sense and oh i tried to book her too now
i think about it but okay her i'm very excited about her because her also announced that her
and rihanna have secret projects coming oh that's exciting now secret projects together or all she said was secret projects she said that
uh you know because rihanna instagrammed uh her singing focus or some shit she was uh dancing i
don't know she was playing focus so then they had a dm conversation and all she said was they have
secret projects coming i took that I understood that to mean like
when Rihanna,
like the way she works
with SZA.
Like if her's writing
some shit
or they're going to
collab with some shit
or just change that sound.
I love that.
I love when Rihanna
does that.
In other words,
I'm going to sit you
close to me for a while
and make you super hot
and your charisma
is going to take off.
100%.
Yeah.
100%.
And you're also going to
help me
write some fire show.
That's the Rihanna stimulus package.
But I feel like Rihanna don't,
Rihanna,
I feel like she's really picky
when she does it.
I mean,
you got to be like super dope.
She don't do that.
She don't do that.
No, no,
you got to be super dope.
Yeah.
Like she got to really think that,
yo,
she or he is dope.
I'm real anxious to hear
how Rihanna and her music would sound together, one.
And two, I think I've said in this podcast a little while ago, I do think Rihanna has a project coming.
Yeah, I'm sure.
Why don't I feel like that?
No, I said that two weeks ago and you all said I was nuts that she had the Fenty shit.
I never said it was nuts.
You said, you know, all this Fenty shit going on, so there's no way.
Yo, Rory is the king of twisting your words around
weeks later when he thinks you don't remember.
I'm the one. Rory, our
big Rihanna argument was
how long between albums.
How long has she gone between albums.
I thought we all agreed that she was coming
this year sometime. Yeah, I wouldn't have argued with you on that one.
Okay. You got it, man.
I just want to know who mixes her music.
Her music is always
mixed the best, right? It's like
the difference in music when you play
a Rihanna record in your headphones. It's crazy.
If you have your shit on shuffle and then it goes to a Rihanna record,
it's night and day.
It's crazy how loud and how
crystal clear that music
is. Her engineer
or whoever's mixing, that shit is crazy.
But I guess that's Rihanna,
so.
So y'all are not
going to go to
the Chris Brown tour?
I don't think
I have the time.
Wait a minute.
I would actually go.
I've never seen,
only time I've seen
Chris Brown live
was at Summer Jam.
Wait a minute,
I have two more
Chris Brown questions.
How much money
do you think
Chris Brown got
to appear with
Lil Dicky
and sing?
I woke up
in Chris Brown's, I think I'm in Chris
Brown's body.
How much money did they
pay him? Alright, let me find this song.
Have y'all heard that song?
I haven't.
It was actually, I saw the video, it was
because that's what the Lil Dicky
dude does. He does like
funny, weird, different shit.
But the actual concept of the record wasn't bad. a Lil Dicky dude does. He does like little like funny, weird, different shit. Yeah.
But the actual concept
of the record wasn't bad.
I'm going to start
writing my tombstone
when I get home.
I swear to God.
For how long?
Because of Lil Dicky?
Lil Dicky did it for you?
For us?
No, just because,
no, Parks, Lil Dicky.
Yeah, stop.
Stop all of this.
Yo.
No, because more,
because today you could
just bypass shit
with like the wildest
Of statements
And say it very cavalierly
Like
Lil Dicky you know what I mean
He's just a wild ass
Crazy ass nigga
But that's what he does
So
Yeah he's like
What was the old school
Dude named
Weird Al
Like he's like
Weird Al Yankovic
Like he's like that type of
You know what I mean
It's like I don't
Humor
But he actually
But he has some records
That I heard
Where he was actually
Spent yo
So if Lil Dickending For you to sing
You think you woke up
In mall
Three underscores body
No
I wouldn't do it
I don't know if that'd be
In the pocket
With the three underscores
For that bag
Yeah
I don't know
It'd be tough
He might have to
Double time that flow
You know
I'm gonna tell you
How funny life is though
Now I'm about to get
In my shit.
Lil Dicky going to reach out to Joe and be like, yo, listen, I got this record.
You going to 100% do a record with Lil Dicky.
Absolutely.
100%.
Why wouldn't you?
Well, you got to change your rap name.
I don't have, I don't rap.
That's what they're talking about.
Your Twitter name is your rap name.
No, it's not.
It is if you don't have a rap name.
No.
Yes, it is.
No, it's not.
Your rap name is more with three underscores.
Yeah, I know.
And your hoodie says,
Make America Rap Again.
Trap Again.
Trap Again.
That's a T.
That's a T.
Why are you touching me?
Stop touching me, man.
Make America Trap Again.
Yeah.
You definitely know where the 92 bricks are.
Anyways.
All right.
Oh, and the other Chris Brown.
Wait, but you're not taking
the little Dickie bag?
I'm taking the little Dickie bag.
Don't even...
I'm not.
I'm going to advise against the...
I think I woke up
in Joe Budden's body.
Yeah, right.
Joe going to be like,
hmm.
Little Dickie going to give him
the Sinead like,
hmm, okay, yeah.
I watched a YouTube video
about time travel. This is little signature yell yeah no that's That shit sound terrible Not when it's bars, dude
When it's bars, dude
Hey, don't get me mad, boy
Don't get me mad, nigga
But it ain't no bars, dude
Hey, it could be, though
It could be
Say something
You were tired
Something, something
You're not rapping
You were tired, man
All right, Chris Brown thinks that
Carucci and Victor Cruz make a beautiful couple
Maybe they do
Well, they're two beautiful people.
So they do make beautiful couples.
I thought they looked nice in the picture.
I think that we have to put a stop to the
growing trend of exes commenting
under Instagram
pics.
Nah, that's way too entertaining.
Let's do more of it.
That's way too much fun.
It's fun reading that type of shit.
You can't do that, man.
I would never do it,
but I like when people do it.
Well, you don't have any exes.
You have to date.
I know.
Fuck you can court
and meet people, nigga.
Yeah, I know.
Some after work,
some after trap functions.
You're right.
After trap functions.
Trap happy hours.
The trap trapper hours.
Wait, that is what
they call the afties.
The afties? I hate saying afties. Wait, who the afties now. The afties?
I hate saying afties.
Wait, who says afties?
We said afties for two decades.
Mad niggas say it.
We all said afties.
The aftie.
Yeah, but today it sounds funny to me.
Probably because we don't hit the afties no more.
We'll all still be at the afties.
Never.
We'd do be right there by fucking Western beef.
No, I don't, nigga.
Never.
Never. You bugging the fuck out., I don't, nigga. Never. Never.
You bugging the fuck out.
You bugging the fuck out.
Never.
I've never walked in that shit.
Don't walk me by that big ass Bronx Western beef.
Never.
Never.
That was nasty after.
See, you nasty.
You're not nasty, more.
I've never been in there.
I was in there once.
I know you were.
I was never in that shit.
I was about to get stabbed up in there.
I got out of there.
I don't know what the...
Jessica never heard from me again.
You left her in aisle six?
That's crazy.
Yo, those Spanish niggas was about to end me by Western beef.
I was like, fam, I am not dying by Western beef.
Keep playing.
That'd be terrible.
High line to read.
Joe Budden dies by Western beef. Keep playing. All right. That'd be terrible. Hyde line to read. Joe Budden dies by Western beef.
Let me knock on wood, but I'm already knowing that God, just how my life has gone, is going
to be one of those.
It's definitely going to be one of those.
Yeah.
Like, seeing that, I have to hold it down.
Yeah, I don't know if you have a choice.
Yeah, I know.
But whatever.
Seeing that, I have to hold it down.
Yeah, but what I'm saying, all right, so y'all don't think it's like an expiration date to when you should be allowed to comment under your ex's pictures publicly?
No, I think there's no special limitations on that.
Y'all don't think that hurts somebody?
Y'all don't think that looks away?
I think it only looks away if one of the people that were in a relationship is seriously married, kids now, and you're still doing that.
Then it's like, yo, come on.
Clearly, we've moved on.
This is why it's trash.
I know this is strategy.
You already know that your old work done hip the new work all about you.
Right.
You know they done pillow talked it up.
I think the crew knows everything.
They are scoffing at that comment.
I can't believe they're still like really together though.
I thought that was just like a little date thing.
Like they're still together.
I remember when the picture came out with Vic and Karrueche walking.
That was a couple months ago.
They're still together now?
I don't know.
I mean, for sure. I don't speak to them that's not a group chat but why is that
interesting to you those relationships don't usually last that long like those type of relationships
it's like you date hang out for like a couple weeks fuck for a little bit and just take a little
trip somewhere yeah then it's like they're not together no more because she was just with uh uh
quavo before that,
getting in the car at All-Star Weekend.
She needed a ride.
Was it at All-Star Weekend?
Maybe.
I wouldn't know.
Bernice is with Quavo.
Don't do that.
I'm just saying,
like,
Carucci was just with him
a few months ago.
I know Chris's strategy
there, though,
because she thinks
Chris is out of his mind.
He's trying to show her
that maybe he's matured
and changed,
so she'll think,
you know what?
Maybe.
You got to leave comments
under your ex's pictures.
You crazy?
I did that one.
I'm not doing it,
Just tell me what the end goal is.
When me and my girl
broke up for a little while,
she got a new boyfriend,
I went under every picture.
And guess what?
We're back together.
What were you saying?
Funny shit.
You wasn't saying
she like bit you trash.
Nah.
All right.
I've said that. I don't said that under one of my exes.
So maybe you should leave.
Bitch, you whack.
Because your exes be thinking
they be bodying something.
They be doing the trashiest of things.
Like, you ain't doing nothing.
And you went in right with it.
You're trash.
Yeah.
Wow.
But I think I deleted it.
Like that matters. All right,. But I think I deleted it.
Like that matters.
All right.
Let's see.
I don't remember what was important that we was talking about.
Oh, Chris Brown.
I don't want to talk.
Oh, shit.
Retirement.
That's what we got to talk about.
So y'all don't believe SZA when she says this is her last album, her next album?
No.
I don't at all. Y'all just don't believe shit.
No.
No.
All the evidence is suggesting artists continue to be without music.
SZA said this next album was her last album?
Yes.
What? What? What is SZA talking to need to put out music. SZA said this next album was her last album? Yes. What?
What?
Who is SZA talking about?
You just got hot.
Time out.
First of all, I'm going to defend SZA always.
This is the hottest SZA has ever been in her life.
I know she's not totally new.
I've known about SZA for years, yes.
This is the hottest she's ever been. If you're going to talk about one of those super artistic-y people
that ain't about to understand none of the hot talk that you mentioned
because they live in artistic-y world, it's SZA.
She ain't more artistic-y than Erykah Badu.
Those type of people don't change their minds.
And Erykah Badu stopped putting music out.
Not after she was the hottest in her life.
All right, well, let me just say to you that before her S before her scissors first album she was trying to not put that album out yeah she remember that
yeah and she put it out also remember that uh scissor was suffering through like some depression
in a one of those times i understand that yes i say all that to say that i mean hearing that is
not so shocking yo listen oh wait wait wait One more thing Wait wait wait wait
One more thing
And SZA
Was writing
She's a writer
So she's not saying
She's leaving music
Okay alright
Listen
Listen listen listen
Listen listen
This next album
Will be the last album
As an artist
Artists gotta stop
Announcing next time
You have to announce it
No you do not
Just stop doing it
Just stop putting out records
Just stop
So what your fans
You're supposed to expect
Yeah
Fuck it Cause then you say Stupid shit like that And then when Times get rough Now you feel like Just stop doing it. Just stop putting out records. Just stop. So what, your fans just supposed to expect? Yeah.
Fuck it.
Because then you say stupid shit like that, and then when times get rough, now you feel like you got the creative juices.
No, nigga, you got bills again.
Stop it, man.
Stop.
Just stop.
Bills will get the creative juices going, though.
Yeah, like stop.
Stop with that shit, man.
Stop announcing you're retired and I'm not making music no more albums.
Shut up, man.
Yes, you are.
You are confusing rapper retirement with
starlets retirement no i'm not well those girls always come back they just go to pr that's what
i'm saying so like i don't know all right joe it's actually people gotta stop announcing i'm
no longer like though this ain't everybody want to come to the podium and announce when you say
words like everybody give me all of these people that are doing this and continuing to make music
i don't see it what do you mean give me all these people that are doing this and continuing to make music. I don't see it.
What do you mean?
Give me all the people
that are making these
retirement announcements.
I'm talking about people
just announcing that
they're not doing something anymore.
Like, stop doing that
because then you're going to
come right back and do it.
Like, Erica Mina.
She made this big thing.
I'm not doing Love and Hip Hop.
You're right back
less than a year later.
Stop.
Just say you're going to do
some other things right now
that you're not focusing on.
You're going to come back.
Don't say anything.
Just do something.
Or just don't come,
don't say anything.
I totally agree with you,
Eric.
I mean,
but she was definitely going
for a lot longer than a year.
She tweeted that
she would never do
Love & Hip Hop
March 31st, 2017.
Oh, you're talking about
the tweet?
What time?
Oh, I'm talking about
her time away.
I'm curious too.
I was just talking about
her time away.
Yeah, but she's right back.
Like, stop it.
That type of shit makes you look stupid.
It makes you look like, all right, you're just talking stupid now.
You're talking out your ass.
You wanted to make a statement.
You had your moment.
Everybody retweeted it 10,000 times.
And then a year later, you're right back.
And Joe, to your point that it's not a rapper, SZA is a really artsy girl.
Those type of people change their mind constantly.
Why would SZA not make music anymore?
She just doesn't want to be an artist, apparently.
You about to say a bunch of things that you do not know for a fact?
No, no.
I was about to say she has a dope project she just put out.
Amazing project.
Yeah, like why would you just...
Well, that project's probably about a year old now.
Yes, okay.
So why would you just decide I'm not doing that anymore?
Because you could make probably the same money
but without doing all the bullshit.
Yeah, just because you don't understand someone's motive,
I don't think you should knock it.
Doing interviews and all types of wild shit
or I could just sit in the studio and write for people
and make the same amount of money basically.
You know why I don't understand Maul?
Because when Maul is cool with somebody like mall totally understands uh party not want to do interviews and party not
want all of the all of the stresses that come i want to do interviews and not doing music is two
different things okay so that was poorly worded all of the stresses that make artists feel like
they want to should step away,
you understand that.
You fly with man niggas that have gone through the politics of not only music, but the sports as well.
So I never understand when you don't understand that.
But my thing is when you love something,
and this is clearly what you're great at,
why do you want to announce that you're no longer doing that?
Well, all right, let me try to answer it,
even though I haven't spoken to SZA. I know for i was announcing it because i know i had a bunch of fans that
expect music and it's another thing like artists love to say oh the hardships of the industry is
that all right so come come try to get a job at staples then leave the music industry alone
don't be a writer come try to get a nine to five wake up every day and see how hard that shit is
you right though like y though No People love to complain
About the industry
And the interviews
I don't want to do interviews
Okay so then
Get your ass up at 730
And ride the bus every morning
And go to work
The Staples right there
By Wine and Spirits
In Edgewood
Is always empty
That would be an easy job
You okay?
Alright
I go in there
And that nigga won't even
Fucking help me find loose leaf
I hear you
And that motherfucker
I'd be in there
Standing for an hour.
Yeah.
That's when I was on
my whole writing thing.
Oh, okay.
But yeah,
artists gotta stop that shit.
The industry is tough.
Moe's a hater.
I'm a hater?
No, I hate when people...
So you don't know that...
So the industry's not tough, Moe?
I hate when people...
No, the industry is not tough.
All right, I'm done with Moe.
The industry is not tough
at all.
Not tough compared to a 9 to 5.
I feel what you're saying.
It's not tough.
Making music and dealing
with the industry shit
is not tough. Making music is a lot tougher than working at Staples. No, it's not. I feel what you're saying. It's not tough. Making music and dealing with the industry shit is not tough. Making music is a
lot tougher than working at Staples. No, it's not.
Yes, it is. No, it's not. When you
love making music, it is not tougher than working at Staples.
What are you talking about? It is. Yes, it is.
No, it's not. No, it's not.
That should be good. No, it's not.
Making music is not tough.
No, it's not. Making music is not tougher than
fucking working at Staples. Alright, walk me through this.
Walk you through what? Give me more.
Because I've never worked at Staples.
So tell me what you mean by that.
You worked at The Wiz.
Exactly my point.
He come from that.
And he hated it.
He left that to make music.
No, I left that.
You're proving my point.
That's not true.
I left The Wiz because my child's mother stabbed me and then they went out of business.
I was making a killing at The Wiz, robbing them blind.
I never wanted to leave there.
I left there and had to go to like- So so you would so you would go back to that you
would go back to that before making music no all right so it's nothing else to talk about
there's nothing else to talk about that's my point you will never go back you will never go
back to working in a fucking stock room or working a nine-to-five before leaving the music business
you will not do it the trap version version of this is the life you chose?
No, I'm just saying people got to stop.
This is the trap version of
you're saying I chose this life.
No, artists and athletes,
y'all got to stop putting these...
It's tough.
What you're doing is not tough.
It is though.
It's not tough, man.
Making music is not tough.
I've had real jobs within
maybe not this decade,
close to this decade. Yeah, within this decade, I've had real jobs within maybe not this decade. Close to this decade.
Yeah, within this decade, I've had a real job and I've done music.
And it's harder doing music than it is having a real job.
Way harder.
It was definitely harder doing music than it was.
When you say harder, what do you mean?
You have to hustle for every single dollar.
You have to work around the clock nonstop.
Even when you're sleeping, you have to be thinking about the next move.
You have to be plotting.
You have to be savvy.
You have to pay attention to what everybody's doing.
When you go to a job you go clock in
and do your little task
and leave
and you are getting
a guaranteed amount of money
whenever you get paid
music is not like that
you are constantly
in competition
with every artist
all over the world
it's hard
it's hard
it's hard
I hear what you're saying
because it's a passionate thing
and we love doing it
that's why we do it
but I can't say
that it's not
easier than
there's something to be said
for all of the motherfuckers
quitting that are quitting.
Exactly.
She ain't just pulling this out of osmosis.
Every artist...
I'm not talking about SZA
because I don't know what she's going through.
But I'm just saying
every artist that's in music right now
that is successful,
they have all come from a past
of working a nine-to-five
and their dream was to get out of that shit
because they hated it.
They didn't want to do that. They didn't want to be there working in the stock room working
behind a desk working in a cubicle like they hated it yeah and then a lot of them get to the music
business and realize it's actually much more difficult no you have to work it's not it's not
oh what you might think it is from the outside looking in yeah there is work but when you love
it you don't mind putting that work but let me add but let me add some perspective or a lot of us get to
the music business by the only way they'll let us in which is by performance because that's the only
way they'll even allow us a seat at the table and then we'd see oh then we see the plethora of other
opportunities that exist i know when i was in jersey city i had no idea of all the different
ways that were was to get money in the music business i didn't know so you get there you see it you find a better way to get acclimated
oh shit uh i don't like being in front of the camera i don't like all the attention but i write
really well let me go get this pub deal let me go you move and shake so it's hustling so if if a
nigga's gonna say the streets is hard,
you gotta say music is hard.
They're,
and for,
damn near the same.
No, you have to work at anything you do.
It's not like,
I'm not saying there's no,
you don't have to work hard
in the music business.
I'm not saying that.
I'm talking about
when people say,
oh, the music business
is hard, it's rough,
it's this, it's that.
That's regular life shit.
That's true.
That's everyday. You don't think we deal with snakes at nine to this. It's that. That's regular life shit. That's true. That's every day.
You don't think we deal with snakes at nine to five.
Somebody who manages to hate you.
Okay, niggas in regular life want to fucking go hang themselves.
Yeah, but that's the internal thing.
That has nothing to do with your occupation.
Bottom line, you don't believe that this will be SZA's last project as an artist.
No, I don't.
You don't either.
No, I don't think so.
Maybe she'll change her name from scissor
to something else maybe she'll just take a break for a little while rory where do you fall i think
she'll just put out another album i think she's showing that she changes her mind a lot which is
fine that's why she's so creative she used to tweet out uh tde put my album out what the fuck
and then she went to oh i don't really know if i want to put this out she changes her mind a lot
so i think she will change her mind again and want to put it out, Mo.
That's what women do.
Women change their mind a lot.
So salute to SZA.
All right, I think we have spoken about
way too many serious subjects in a row.
So I would like to introduce a new segment
this week.
Here we go.
But this is kind of an old segment
because we like to break down
lyrics here.
Give real in-depth
discussion when
hot Dylon hits the streets.
We'll be breaking down.
So got some new Hell Rel fire
here.
Yep.
Gonna go ahead and break this down.
Somehow, there's a Joe Budden diss in here.
Nice.
I always like those.
That's my first somehow.
The second somehow is somehow,
this is like my fourth week in a row discussing Hellrell.
Popping.
He's popping in these streets.
And my third somehow is the same question I had before. Why is Hellrell. Popping. He's popping in these streets. And my third somehow
is the same question
I had before.
Why is Hellrell dissing me?
Because you dissed him
on the podcast.
Same reason everybody
else is dissing you.
I did not diss Hellrell
on the podcast.
Oh, this is the same way
when you said
I diss DJ Envy.
Like, yeah, you did.
You said mad shit
about him on the podcast.
You definitely dissed DJ Envy.
And you definitely dissed Hellra.
All right.
Let's get into it.
All right.
Fire already.
All right.
And rap TV.
Walking brick.
How about the pot?
Wipe the baking soda off me.
Walking the club real fly.
That's why these hoses on me.
Pull out your camera, baby girl.
Focus on me. Matter of fact,, baby girl. Focus on me.
Matter of fact, take a selfie with somebody who wealthy.
How about...
Pause.
No one has ever asked Hellro for a selfie.
You do not.
Yo, what's wrong with you, man?
Yo, because in retirement, Yo what's wrong with you man Yo cause In retirement
It allows me to
Properly assess lyrics
You know
Rappers just lie
Rappers just
What woman
Stopped El Rel
In the club
And asked for a selfie
Yeah I could see a
No you can't
I could see a 41 year old chick
No you can't
From like the
03 Bronx era.
For her Facebook.
I know the selfie definitely ended up on Facebook.
01 Facebook probably.
All right, let's see.
Yeah, there's no way it went on Instagram.
It definitely went on Facebook.
All right, let's see.
Let's keep going.
My wife's so sick, she need bed rest.
Pause.
Yo. so sick he need bed rest. Pause. Yo, we gotta start putting a limit on
the niggas that could diss me.
Anybody just can't
diss me, man. I know
the pumping up jokes is cool.
My wife so sick he need bed rest
can't diss me, but let's keep going.
Boy, I died in this outfit.
No, you died at that salad bar.
What the fuck is he talking about?
What the hell?
He's got the whole story.
All right.
I'm dead fresh.
Fucking opinion from a nigga who may pump it up.
I really loaded that shotgun and pumped it up.
Smoking cocaine.
What the fuck is up?
How you want it?
Drop $3,500 for this it up. Smoking coffee. Like, what the fuck is up? How you want it? Drop $3,500 for this button-up.
So when texts get to blazing,
I'm dressed for the...
Wait, time out.
Rory, how much do you spend on your button-up?
Wait, before you answer that, Rory.
$10.
Maul, do you think that
the bitch saw El Rel in the club
in a button-up
and asked for a selfie?
No.
$3,500 on a button-up.
Let's keep it real.
And where's El Rel getting
a $3,500 button-up? Where's El Rel getting $3,500? $3,500 button up let's keep it real and where's Hellrell getting a $3,500 button up
where's Hellrell
getting $3,500
that's a
you know how you know
he's not getting $3,500
cause he dropped
that number in the song
like that was the
the wow
spend
yeah third half of the Bronx
that's a lot of money
he dropped that
like that was the
wow spend amount.
Well, you can't spend more than that on a button-up.
You got to start calling bullshit out of the search for it.
I'm sure you can.
That's a mad $5,000 Christian Audigier button-ups.
How much is that Burberry fucking baby shower shirt?
Not $3,500.
Yeah, it's lower than that.
It's a little lower than that.
All right, let's get back into this guy.
Occasion.
I'm suited for your funeral.
Now, ain't that amazing?
It was God planning to pull up in that dark lamp and then swing up out that shit like I'm Tarzan.
You know the program.
None of this happened at the salad bar.
Sneakers on my feet.
You never seen like toe jam.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
Tink with a matching pinky ring.
That's a cold hand
pocket full of lint talking shit that's a broke man scale two nigga
you guys picking up scale two i might have to now when was scale one
last year okay yeah niggas gotta stop putting the two in front of the show
it's the second one yeah but don't do front of each other. That's the second one.
Yeah, but don't do that.
It's not the second one if I didn't know about the first one.
If you didn't know about the first one.
Yeah, no, you got to do your due diligence to make sure we all know about part one.
You can't just come out the woodworks with, oh, part two of the fire.
Yeah.
Nah.
That's part two.
Scale.
If Del Rey don't knock it
the fuck off.
It's a sequel.
I enjoyed that freestyle.
I enjoyed it.
Nobody that's ever enjoyed
anything has ever said
I enjoyed it.
You know what's funny
about Rory?
Rory enjoys any freestyle.
Just guessing.
Of course.
Any freestyle.
Oh, that's this and you.
Yeah.
Yeah, I do too, actually.
Yeah, those are always fun.
Yeah, but Rory,
why you was so quick
to promote my son's diss track
You didn't think
That was a little
A little shady
He was helping out
Strategic marketing
Tell me what you did there
See what you did
Strategic marketing
Huh
Was that supposed to be
Like a bar
Strategic marketing
What was he marketing
My son
Yeah
Alright
I'll roll
Whatever
What's in the best interest
for your last name
and carrying on your legacy
your son is rapping now
he's pretty good
for his age
I wanted to promote that
I support the Budden family
see Rory's
a fucking true friend
unlike some of you guys
alright let's see
oh shit
you guys want to do
like a thank you speech
for what
for a BET award
I don't have an
award where i see one here do y'all care about um do y'all well what i did want to ask y'all was
uh because it dawned on me because we're going to go on a tour soon i should have told y'all that
but i'll talk to y'all about it um but when i was thinking about the tour we're going on
and some of the numbers and just like shit Rory and Maul have to have fans.
They aight, man.
Yeah, we out here.
So when I thought about y'all two having fans, I said to myself, damn, I never asked Rory and Maul how they feel about, one, having fans, and two, I would like to know why they think they have fans.
Because I tied that, and I know that sounds like a joke, but I tied that.
First of all, you said we have fans. Y'all do have fans. I know we and i know that sounds like a joke but i thought you said we have fans y'all do have fans i know i'm aware i know well i know strategic marketing man
over here somewhere but what i'm saying is as a brand off to go off our brand conversation
why why do you guys know why y'all have fans that's what i'm asking and i know that sounds
like a joke i'm not trying to play y'all i'm seriously that's what I'm asking. And I know that sounds like a joke. I'm not trying to play y'all.
I'm seriously asking.
I'm still getting used to the idea of having fans.
I don't feel like, I don't even like calling them fans.
I think we just have people that support the show and like the show.
Call them listeners.
Yeah, but this is, you know, this is all new to me.
So when people stop me in the street, it's just, I'm not,
I'm still not used to it.
I'm trying to get used to it.
But I think it's dope, though because people people just are attracted to just
real content and real conversations and they feel like these are conversations that they have in
their circles and we talk about things that they talk about in their neighborhoods and shit like
that so i think it's dope but again i'm still getting used to it it's something that i just
have to get used to yeah i always because I'm not super social
to people that are not
my friends
so it is a little odd
to me when it happens
but it means it's working
and it means people
are listening
so I'm very
I appreciate it
I'm very appreciative
I think it's dope
but it's new for me
and try to be as
social and interactive
with them as I can
and it is a little odd
when they bring up
like personal shit
and I forget
I said it on the podcast
like how the fuck
you know about that
so it's been an interesting transition yeah okay that's
pretty awesome guys i gotta get my i mean no slight to hell rel in his selfie game but i gotta
get my selfie shit better with the pictures and i would beat the shit out of hell rel like what
the fuck is hell rel talking about how did we get there that What are you talking about? That just dawned on me. Like, besides all of the rap shit,
I would fuck Hellwell up.
But why are we back to that, though?
Because Rory brought Hellwell back up.
Oh, okay.
So then I was like,
wait a minute.
Besides all of these jokes, my nigga,
I'll beat the shit out of you.
Stop playing with me.
But you started it, though.
I didn't.
He ain't there.
You called him.
You said he was ugly, though.
Mom.
That's what he took offense to.
Well, he ain't waking up thinking he's Boris Kojo in the mirror, nigga.
I'm just telling you where it all started from.
So people will say you started it.
Hell, real.
You better watch your fucking mouth, nigga.
There.
I'm going to leave this at that.
All right.
What was I trying to talk about?
Oh, do y'all care about Easter and April fools
being on the same day this Sunday?
First of all,
Mr. Farmer's Almanac,
you came with all this speech
and then it fucking snowed
four days after your Farmer's Almanac
or whatever you want to call it.
Yeah, spring is here
because the ground is now getting warm enough
for the farmers to farm
and all this other...
And then four days later, we got a fucking Nor'easter enough for the farmers to farm and all this other and four days later we got a fucking
Nor'easter. To the
farmers regroup?
I think I woke up in mall
three underscore five.
What are you talking about right now? What's wrong with you?
There's no way to say that cool.
Change your name. Change your name.
Rage. Change your weather. I'm not Rage.
You are Rage. I seen you go on the hotel
for five days. Parks was asking are y'all ready for Rage Change your weather I'm not Rage You are Rage I've seen you go on the whole Talks was asking
Are y'all ready for Rage
Everyone said yes
And you came out
And you came out
So what are you talking about
I've seen you growl on IG Live
For six months
Yeah
You are Rage
You put your dark shades on
You went on your press run
As Rage
I never put dark shades on
Alright man Nevermind Nevermind Rage or Joe Whoever you are on He went on your press run As Rage I never put dark shades on Alright man
Nevermind
Nevermind
Rage
Or Joe
Whoever you are today
I don't know who you are
Oh do y'all care that
Do y'all care about Easter
Yeah
Y'all don't give a fuck
About anything right
Easter no
It's a good family day
Definitely not
It's a family day
What do the drug dealers
Wear on Easter
I don't know
I don't know any drug dealers
I gotta appeal to your
Fucking truth
I don't know Same the Burberry shit They drug dealers. I got to appeal to your fucking truth. I don't know.
The Burberry shit they wear to the baby shower.
$3,500 button-up.
The same Burberry button-up.
Are you going to the Beyonce concert, Mo?
Probably not.
That's a different Rockefeller ad.
How come you have all the hats?
No, it's not.
It's the same.
I want one hat.
You don't wear these hats.
I didn't say I want to wear a hat.
I want a hat.
Oh, you just want a hat? Yeah. Oh, okay. Because you don't wear a snapback. I want a hat. You don't wear these hats. I didn't say I want to wear a hat. I want a hat. Oh, you just want a hat.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Because you don't wear snapbacks.
I want a hat more.
Okay.
How many times are you going to say it?
I want you to give me a hat.
Because I feel like you're pressing me now.
Yeah, get the fucking hat.
That's an issue for me.
Okay.
You and Rory are changing.
We're changing.
Yeah.
God damn it.
Do y'all care about 21 Savage and Amber breaking up?
I honestly did not know
they were even still together.
No, I'm serious
because I hadn't heard
anything about them.
I didn't even know
they were still together.
I'm devastated.
What?
Did that nigga just say
he's devastated?
Oh.
And now that he said that,
I definitely said
use the word fabulous this week.
I told my mother
she looked fabulous.
That would be a time.
Yeah,
don't try to make it okay
with your mom.
You can use that word.
And then I said,
hey,
that was fine.
Let me tell Maul.
Yeah,
you can,
yeah,
then tell your mom.
Maul,
Rory was devastated.
Devastated.
No,
just like Maul.
I had no idea
they were still together.
And Maul,
before I get off of you,
fucking,
$3,500 on the Maul bill.
Here we go.
Okay.
Keep it $100.
That was Maul's bill.
I never thought of that.
All right.
Oh, Maul, Maul.
Yeah.
Don't ask me how.
Don't ask me how.
Nobody was asking how.
At all At all
We had no intention
No one was inquiring
Okay wait
Before we move further
Wait I asked this stupid question
Before niggas laughed at me
But is Academics
Instagram the new clue tape
No
I don't follow Academics
I don't follow them
But you might be onto something
Alright
Explain to me how it is
So somebody made these
These are like exclusives.
So,
just give y'all one.
I thought these
was pretty dope.
Oh,
look at that.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah.
That's us.
Yeah.
That's you,
That's us.
I got you the black one
because,
you know,
you're clumsy
and you probably
spilled shit.
This is us.
And then Rory,
I got you a white one.
Oh,
I'm okay,
man.
Because you're white,
so I got you a white shirt.
No,
I get it,
yeah.
Okay.
It'll brighten up my whiteness. Yeah, I thought the shirt was dope. It looks dope. It is dope. Those pro white shirt Cause you're white So I got you a white shirt No I get it It'll brighten up my whiteness
I thought the shirt was dope
It looks dope
It is dope
Those pro clubs
Now you're stepping on the shirts
That actually make us money
But
No those are not
We have products by the way
Don't you see
These is whack
Go to our shit
Thanks small
No those are just for us though
I do like the shirt though
Thank you
I appreciate that
Yeah I want to shout out
To all the people that listen from work.
Let me get an air horn for y'all.
I think because all of us are unemployed, with the exception of Rory, who just got his job two weeks ago, so it kind of doesn't count.
I think that the fact that all of-
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't tell the government.
Yeah, he's still on that, what's it called when your bosses are checking you out for that first four months?
Escrow.
No.
Probation. Probation.
Probation.
A little probationary, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, they're watching you.
They're listening to you.
No, Rory kind of,
he kind of hot in the streets right now, though.
Is he?
Tell me more.
A little bit.
Tell me.
I mean, you know, people.
Because I haven't gone outside in months.
People know Rory.
He's in demand out there.
Oh, yeah, no,
I definitely got him hot out here.
Oh, yeah?
I got him hot out here. Yo, yeah? I got him hot out here.
Yo, don't ever tell me
to shush.
I'm trying to figure out.
What are you shushing?
I'm waiting for your
complex to respond.
This nigga's shushing, man.
I'm waiting for your complex.
If he didn't,
then he didn't fall for it.
All right,
what was I about to say?
21 and,
y'all don't care?
Amber?
Nah.
I didn't know they were
still together.
We'll make you lose your
man listen it may cause some turmoil in the household why do women think breast reductions
are like why are they trying to be healthy well stop trying to uh stop trying to whatever they
call it with their bodies police stop trying to police her body oh don't say that because
me and sin really are having a real big fight in my house about shit like that
policing her body
yes
yeah you
misogynistic pig
stop trying to do it
word
thanks Parkson
uh
Jewels remanded in court
oh wait
I had another lyric breakdown
I wanted to get into
me blasting this
Tony Braxton song
all fucking week
but uh
Jewels remanded
uh
what's that mean I've not been in court before jules is not being
released he's going back in oh so he's not getting bail is that the same thing yeah gotcha well i
saw that coming for a gun in new jersey and running out of the airport oh this is i could
see i could see that not getting bail yeah that, they're going to, because that's, now you're talking about
like TSA,
Homeland Security
and shit like that.
Like they got to,
they're not just letting you.
That's crazy.
Yeah,
that's different.
When you walk
on those airport grounds,
that's like charges
are a little different.
Yeah.
That's considered federal too,
right?
Yes.
Once you're in an airport?
Yeah,
and that mean
they about to be
extra slow
with that paperwork. I wonder how the lines airport? Yeah, and that means they're about to be extra slow with that paperwork.
I wonder how the lines are
at TSA and NORC now.
Because that'd be unfortunate
if Jewel's fucked
everything up for us.
I never want to fly to NORC
ever again in my life.
Well, that's the worst.
Well, I live in Jersey.
That's the best shit.
Cheaper flights,
better options,
15 minutes from my crib.
I love NORC.
Where is an idiot.
That's where he's at.
What are you laughing about?
You're just stupid, man.
What?
The shoe bomber did that.
Now we all have to take our shoes off because of one guy.
That's true.
Now we all can't bring our guns through TSA because of Joel's.
Joe loves taking his shoes off.
You know what's funny?
He shows up to the airport without his shoes on.
But I don't blame that on the shoe bomber.
I blame that on you.
What are you talking about? You are the guy that makes us, this is all you without your shoes. But I don't blame that on the shoe bomber. I blame that on you. What are you talking about?
You are the guy
that makes us,
this is all you
without your shoes.
Hey, that's not a bad idea.
Let's make everyone
take their shoes off.
TSA was so stupid in 2001.
Like, all of that shit,
well, I don't remember
what was in the airports
back then.
Oh, yeah.
No, that was after 9-11.
That was that shoe bombing thing.
After 9-11.
So this is when security Was heightened
And they didn't think
To check a nigga's shoes
Security before 9-11
Was super like
They just give you a head nod
And you just walk through
Like that shit was super like
He's good
Yeah like that shit
That's his security
Like at the airport
Was like a breeze
Before 9-11
It was the club before 11
Like you just kind of walk in.
If you didn't look threatening, they ain't stop you.
You know what was real crazy?
When they put all the cops and whoever in front of the tunnels,
that was when it was a little crazy for me.
It was like, dog, all right.
Oh, driving across the bridge?
Yeah, because I'm going to go in the tunnel,
and what if you miss the guy?
Yeah.
Well, what did they actually really do?
Did they ever really stop anybody?
Hell yeah.
They was just standing there.
No, no, they stopped trucks.
They stopped malls.
No, they stopped.
They stopped malls to burn.
I've definitely seen them
tell drivers to pull over.
Like, nah,
you pull over here.
One of them white unmarked trucks,
yeah, you pull over.
I guess.
All right, something else important. I guess. All right.
Something else important happened with court.
What else happened with court?
What else happened with court?
DMX.
DMX.
Back in court?
No.
DMX's lawyers want to use his songs at his next hearing.
To help his case?
I can go one of two ways, actually. What do you mean? To help his case? Or... Yes. I can go one of two ways,
actually.
Like,
what do you mean?
To help his case.
Which song are they using?
This is,
like,
important information.
That's very important information.
Up in here,
and they're going to show the video.
Yeah,
like,
which song are they trying to use?
We don't know.
I think there's a crime
in every DMX song.
This is what I'm saying.
No,
no,
I think they said in the article,
I think they're using Slippin' and Conversation, I
think was the other record they said.
What the jury want from a nigga?
You're going to be starting naming the jurors.
No, no.
Playing a DMX song in court is not a good idea.
DMX needs new lawyers.
Get at me, judge.
Yeah.
Get at me, judge.
It's about to be a DMX song battle in court.
They can play one record and then the opposition come right back with a whole different one.
The prosecution going to start playing this shit before he got hot.
Like, yo, look.
Look at the type of civilian he is.
The whole of the DA is Swiss beats.
They're going to go in there and play all the prayer interludes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then forget to hit skip is going to run into another record.
Did y'all see the Justin Timberlake Jordan 3s that are being released?
I did see those.
Say Vaughn, please pull them up.
Take a look at them.
And then order them for yourself.
And take a look at them.
Yo, niggas be shitting those up for Say Vaughn.
And take a look at yo niggas be shitting those on St. Vaughn and take a look at
yo St. Vaughn
ain't bring no
salt and vinegar
chips today
neither
yes he did
that's crazy
no he didn't
I didn't see him
I just saw
it was like
eight bags of chips
I said salt and vinegar
salt and see
oh
it was just
sour cream
he knew that too
he tried to come in
with a whole new speech
barbecue
reflect
nacho
and what deli
don't have salt and vinegar chips?
Look at these hillbillies.
Why is Justin Timberlake
bringing all the Jordans to the woods?
It's for the woods.
Yeah, I guess these won't stain in the dirt.
Yeah, exactly.
No grass stains in them chips.
They're good.
Explain your white people to me.
By the way, I hate this Nike check
they're adding to the threes.
Am I the only one
that hates that shit?
That Nike check is terrible.
Because I see all the
hypebeast sneakerheads like,
this is the greatest thing
that's ever happened to Jordan.
It looks horrible.
Listen, if Mike ain't playing them,
I don't want them, man.
I'm not with all of you.
Mike did not play
in the in the woods threes.
He hunted in these.
Not yet.
In the Crimea River threes.
Carmelo playing them shits.
Them shits is trash. More Swatter Lakers wasrees. Carmelo playing them shits. Them shits is trash.
More Swatter Lakers was winning with Carmelo.
I definitely did.
And Gary Payton.
Over here, Gary Payton.
Yo, more was so hype.
We got this.
Come on, relax, my nigga.
We got this.
We got this.
Simmer it down.
We, I was a part of that.
You hype about that, huh?
LiAngelo Ball coming?
Huh?
No, I'm not hype about that.
Declaring for the draft?
No.
He can declare for nothing.
I don't care.
He's trash.
Well, I don't care about shit.
He's trash.
His brother's trash.
His father's trash.
All of them are trash.
Your tone has changed a little bit.
You were optimistic before, I feel like.
No, I'm over that shit.
All right, so now here's a question for you guys.
I do have a question.
I'm over that shit Alright so now
Here's a question for you guys
I do have a question
Because
I was looking at
A recent picture of Fab
Okay
And then I saw
A recent picture of
It was Murder Mook
And Sugar J
And Co
And then I was really confused On how 40 year old People should dress Jay and Cole.
And then I was really confused on how 40-year-old people should dress.
You should probably get the Justin Timberlake.
So here, yeah, Justin's doing in the woods Jordans.
When you're 40, you get the brown Jordans. Can y'all explain to me the do's and don'ts of 40-year-old dressing?
Y'all are two of my cooler friends.
Rory's not 40,
but 40-year-old people
go to Ducey Palooza.
I got a couple 40-year-olds in there.
Yeah, they be in there.
These niggas look a little...
Your reference should not be
someone half your age
To what you should be wearing
Let me find the picture
Cause you may look a little odd
I gotta see the picture
I mean a 40 is not
I mean yeah it's definitely certain shit
You shouldn't be wearing at 40
But it's not
I take Fab out of that
Cause Fab has continued to do that
And not look stupid yet
Man don't you hate that
You open Instagram
and it's a dope ass picture
and then it goes away.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
From the last time
when you refresh it by accident?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I hate when that happens.
But no,
Fab's gotten away with it.
Fab continues to dress
like a 21 year old
and still look okay.
Alright.
That doesn't seem
that bad to me.
Who is that,
Fab or Mook?
It's a little too much But
I mean
I get it
I think it's just
The lighting
That jacket is
From
A different era
I mean that's not
A new kid
Fab shouldn't have rhinestones
On his sunglasses
The glasses
The glasses are a bit much
40 is not that old Nobody 40 should have Rhinestones on his sunglasses The glasses are 40 is not that old
Nobody 40 should have rhinestones on their sunglasses
Why not
You know who has real dope sunglasses
Ross
Ross is over 40
I know but I don't ever see rhinestones
I just see a real cool design
I don't think 40 year old people should have rhinestones on anything
If you want to be honest
Do you have rhinestones on something
I'm not the rhinestones guy.
Remember when you and Vern and your whole little crew thought y'all was
bodying it with the tight leather sweatpants?
I never had a pair.
The leather jeggings?
That was an era.
That was an era?
I never had leather.
That was an era?
That was a funny era.
That was an era?
That's how Maul and his whole crew identified themselves one summer.
I never owned a pair of leather pants.
That wasn't me.
That was Imani.
It was your crew, though.
Imani definitely did that. I never wore leather pants in my life. That wasn't me. That was Imani. It was your crew, though. Imani definitely did that.
I never wore leather pants in my life.
Your crew, though.
It was your crew.
That was not my crew.
It was your artists.
It was definitely your crew, yeah.
I'm not talking about Imani.
I'm talking about Vern and all the Harlem Bronx guys.
No.
I was never part of that.
Vern got a pair of red ones, too.
Yeah, I was never that guy.
Imani bought the red ones, too.
Imani might still wear the red ones.
In LA.
Yes.
the red ones too.
Amani might still wear the red ones.
In LA.
All right, do we care that Jacquees was arrested in Miami for not
wearing a seatbelt?
Where did you read that?
Well, I'm in the R&B.
Did Daily Mail cover that shit?
Rory, I've never been to the Daily Mail.
And you should stop going to the Daily Mail.
No, I'm in the R&B. So, I mean, been to the Daily Mail. And you should stop going to the Daily Mail. No, I'm in the R&B.
So, I mean, that was a big story.
Well, not that big, apparently.
Well, can you get arrested for not wearing a seatbelt?
I don't know what he was on.
Yeah, you can.
In Miami, during spring break, you can get arrested for damn near anything.
Well, who wears their seatbelt in Miami?
Jaquese is 4'7", so he should wear
a seatbelt at all times.
Everybody should wear a seatbelt at all times, but especially
him. If you on Ocean,
I don't know if I'm... But they was a little
extra physical with a nigga that's
4'7". Is there music playing?
What was that? You getting your sleeper ready?
I was trying to close my phone out,
but the shit played. Okay, he's on
the Daily Mail? No, never.
Y'all hating on the Daily Mail.
What else happened that was really important?
Oh, okay, so wait.
I really like when the older acts, right, like Tony Braxton, 112,
like it's a few of the acts that we really loved in the 90s.
I like when they come out with new music and it sounds good
like it doesn't sound like they're chasing the younger audience yeah that's what i thought about
that ashanti record which is probably why we never heard much from that ashanti record yeah i didn't
with ty dollar sign why did ashanti do that time i was actually kind of excited because i thought
ty was gonna go not all the way back to ashanti's sound, but mix in with what she put out
and was successful for, and it wasn't. It was just Ashanti
saying, hey, Ty, can I get that song
and just kind of sing with you?
And I was excited because Ashanti looks great.
She does look great. She always looks great.
That wasn't the move.
She looks great.
We heard you. Ashanti does look great.
She does. She looks great.
Maul, do you know who bit Beyonce's face?
You would know.
No.
Maul, are you getting these stories?
No, I don't know who bit Beyonce's face.
What Emery said in the group chat.
I don't know who bit me.
Let me just do a poll, because y'all be making me feel like I'm in the Matrix.
Savon, have you heard anything about someone biting a lady named Beyonce's face?
I woke up.
You woke up.
I woke up too.
Erickson, how about you?
I woke up like this.
Brandon, did you hear anything about that?
When she got bit, you woke up?
So how come it's only Parks, Rory, and Mulder?
Where do you hear these things?
No one said that.
It's only the biggest music act in the world and someone bit her fucking face.
You asked me who bit her.
I don't know.
What do you hear these stories?
I didn't say that. I didn't say that.
I didn't say that.
It's from the Tiffany Haddish article.
I'm well aware of what it's from.
Tiffany should stop talking.
You asked me who bit her face.
I don't know who bit her face.
Was it you?
No.
Are you going to the concert?
You asked me that already.
Are you going?
Why are you so intrigued with Maul going to the Beyonce concert?
I'm intrigued with anything Maul and Rockefeller.
No, I'm not going.
No.
All right, fine. Well, who'm not going. Alright, fine.
Who do we think bit Beyonce's face?
I don't care who bit Beyonce's face.
I feel like I was talking about something more important before that.
Someone get arrested for a seatbelt?
No, we were talking about Tony Braxton.
Older acts.
I was just surfing the iTunes store.
You're the only one that still does that.
This is kind of funny.
I don't know why.
It's a little funny.
Surfing the iTunes store?
You do it.
I mean, the store?
It's kind of like going to the record store.
How do you surf the iTunes store?
You open the app, your fingertip.
Your fingertip.
You press it against your phone,
and mad music appears.
I guess it's the surfing.
It's the simplest of acts.
Surfing the web.
My friends are weird.
I'll surf the stream.
My friends, it's y'all that are weird.
You surf.
I don't see how this broadcast is successful.
I still like the iTunes store part.
Everyone goes to the streaming what's new shit.
You go into the iTunes, that's like going to the streaming what's new shit. You go into the iTunes.
That's like going to the record store.
It's like going to Virgin Music.
Which I did and used to really enjoy that act and was sad that it stopped.
So, yeah.
If that's the last piece that you fucking millennials have left us with, then yes.
The iTunes store?
Yes.
Okay.
So, I went in the iTunes store and Tony Braxton was there.
Okay.
I said, hey. I said, hey.
I said, hey.
I said, hey, it's Tony.
Yeah.
No, for real, because Rory and all his little millennial buddies just tried to, they always
try to wipe away history.
All of Rory's little friends try to make us think that Tamar was the hot Braxton.
Like Tony just.
Wait, we do?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's news to me.
No, no, you and your little
Deucey Palooza buddies.
Are bringing up the Braxtons?
No, I'm just saying,
y'all have Tamar Braxton
as the Braxton
that's holding down the Braxtons.
Well, she's definitely been the most...
See?
She's the hottest Braxton in the back.
Maldashi in his back.
No, she is though.
Defending his fucking TV buddies. No, she is the hottest. Tamar is the hottest Braxton in the back. Maldashian is back. No, she is though. Defending his fucking TV buddies.
No, she is the hottest.
Tamar is the hottest.
This is exactly why I rushed when I saw Toni Braxton.
She definitely doesn't sing better than Toni, though.
No.
Well, Toni is very rich.
Sin's been running around mocking it all day now.
It's been pretty funny.
It's pretty funny.
But why does Toni Braxton have fire out right now?
Have you heard the new Tony Braxton song?
If there's one song I didn't hear, it's Tony Braxton's new song.
No.
I'm sorry, Joe.
I heard it.
I enjoyed it.
Hold up, Rory.
Maul, you're not better than me.
I'm sick of Maul.
I hate Maul.
I never said I was better than you.
I just said I definitely did not.
But the fans are liking him, so there's no way to really fire him.
I definitely did not hear the new Tony Braxton.
I got that part.
Yeah, no.
I'm just telling you now that you're not better than me.
I don't think I'm better than anybody.
But how you said that, if there's one song I didn't hear, who's the loser that did that?
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Well, you are kind of the loser that would rush to hear Tony Braxton, her her new fire who in this room has heard the new tony braxton besides nobody joe
move on what's next on the doctor so what do i know the two people who know music in here
if barks is not checking it if it's not souls and mischief and digable planet that's true
so he wouldn't hear the boot camp remix the preemxton The preem remix To Tony
Alright
Let me find
Nah it's not a bad record
Nah don't tell Maul nothing
Maul is fucking
Celebrating tomorrow still
Celebrating tomorrow
Yeah
Maul
This record is fire Maul
I'm not saying it's not
I just haven't heard it
I like the chords
Who produced it?
I would put a verse in this motherfucker.
I don't know.
It sounds like Sway Lee produced it.
Hey.
Come on.
Hey.
Come on.
I seen it.
I seen it.
Yo, I hate when Maul does the cool head nod.
I've not even known what I'm nodding to yet.
I didn't hear it.
You hear the BPMs.
Don't do that, nigga.
And she knew it, too.
That's why she let it rock a little bit. Come on. Now, I didn't play this to antagonize you for not hear it. You hear the BPMs. Don't do that, nigga. And she knew it, too. That's why she let it rock a little bit.
Come on.
Now, I didn't play this to antagonize you for not hearing it.
I want to do a lyric breakdown of the song.
Okay.
I was wondering where you were going with this.
You were very invested in this.
Is there a $3,500 button-up in the lyrics?
No.
There are a million different reasons that I'm intrigued with this song.
Number one, I think women are the most intriguing species on species. the lyrics no there are a million different reasons that i'm intrigued with the song number
one i think women are the most intriguing species on species however you say the word on earth oh
god there's trouble at home what's going on as soon as he said what's going on so i was thrown
off by this record because it came on with such a great positive vibe like it was uplifting and encouraging. And then the verse started, and clearly some gentleman cheated on her.
Birdman?
Huh?
Was it Birdman?
I don't think it was Birdman.
But somebody cheated on her.
But that wasn't the bad part.
He told everybody about it, and she was pretty embarrassed.
He cheated and told everybody he cheated?
Well, that's what she said.
I was just going by the lyrics in the song.
So he cheated and told everybody about it. Well, that's what she said. I was just going by the lyrics in the song. So he cheated and told everybody about it.
He apparently was having a great time.
So I was really invested in the song.
And then the hook came and she said,
I'm never leaving you and I love you forever.
That's fire.
So I was confused.
But then the beat was so hard, I was just dancing.
So I'm going to play this record again and see if y'all can help me with this confusion.
I just want to try to understand women.
Because we have discussed that on this podcast.
Women can cheat on and stay on.
This is a very relevant record.
But that's what I'm saying.
The bad part about cheating is not the cheating we say on this podcast.
What Rory said, not me.
Rory said it's the embarrassment.
So why is Tony Braxton and The Hook saying,
I love you forever?
But wait a minute.
Chicks get embarrassed and still stay.
Wait, in the second verse, she says,
everybody keeps going on about it.
I think that's the funniest line ever written this year,
by the way.
Let's listen to this together.
Everybody's talking about you and her together. So he's been bragging
about the cheating.
How could you do that to me?
He's been telling everybody.
And they're talking about it.
So he was buying her shit.
He was athletes.
All right. Soony looks sad now but the music still feels good
she's trying to keep the hope up
and then here's the hook ball help me out here. She loves him.
Hey!
She loves him as long as she lives.
Hey!
You didn't hear this record?
So now apologize to me.
Now apologize.
No, no, apologize to me.
If there's one record I never... I mean, I didn't play it.
I didn't know it was in the car playing.
I didn't know it was Tony, though.
Listen, though.
Can you all explain the conundrum here?
I think this is reality.
I don't think it's a conundrum at all.
I'm going to stop it.
Okay, so he's a playboy.
He has money, obviously.
Oh, wait, hold up.
This is the best line ever coming up.
Because it's not enough that they're just talking about it.
How could you do that to me?
Oh, it's coming right here.
Here's the line.
And everybody's talking.
Everybody's going on about it.
Everybody's talking.
Everybody's going on about it.
Where are they going on about it?
Time out.
So everybody know that this is your dude
and he's cheating.
Everybody know that this is your dude
and he's cheating. They're just like, well, they're having a great time. So this is the problem I've's cheating. Everybody know that this is your dude and he's cheating.
They're just like, well, they're having a great time.
So this is the problem I've been having.
Have you met the other girl?
She's pretty good.
I don't know.
You might give him a pass.
That's funny.
Yeah, why bitches never give the other girl credit?
Never.
Oh, word, yeah.
Like, the other girl could really be bodying the cheat.
She might speak highly of you, too.
Yeah, come on.
Women got to chill out.
But wait, so I've been laughing at this line
all week in my house as a writer,
as a songwriter.
Uh-huh.
As a songwriter.
You retired, yeah.
Retired.
As a retired songwriter,
for a nigga to put in there,
everybody keeps going on about it,
that's really funny.
And every time I laugh about it,
Sin starts hating
because I'm like, it's a cheating topic. every time I laugh about it, Sin starts hating
because I'm like,
it's a cheating topic.
You're having too much fun, too.
Yeah.
She acts like it's not funny.
Hold up.
Wait, hold up.
This is hilarious.
Oh, shit.
Where'd the line go?
Look.
Everybody's going on about this.
Everybody keeps going on about it, man.
They don't stop.
That's when you got to cut off the Instagram comments.
Oh, yeah.
Cut off the Instagram comments.
Make your page private.
Yeah, all right, so more.
This song is fire, right?
Yeah.
I like it.
And it appeals to, I mean, this is not old lady swag.
Mm-mm.
That's why I didn't think it was Toni Braxton.
I heard it in the car
like I wasn't really listening
but when I heard the hook
I heard that right
oh no you making a sale
with this song
who's car were you in?
wait
wait who's car were you in?
you and Rory
who does Rory think you are?
the fuck?
Mo
I saw you on Instagram
live or Insta snap
sounded like a new Jhené song was playing what Jhené song was that? Mo, I saw you on Instagram Live or InstaSnap.
Sounded like a new Jhené song was playing.
What Jhené song was that that you were playing with the incense?
Oh, no.
I'm going to play that for my sleeper.
Is that out?
Yeah.
I didn't think there was a Jhené song out that I didn't know about.
Anyway, that Tony Braxton song is fire, and I've been playing it nonstop
and since a fucking hater.
It is a good record, though.
Oh, hey.
Yo, you know who else put out some fire?
Ro James put an EP out.
Actually, that's where my sleeper is from,
from Ro James.
He's super talented.
Ro James' EP.
He's got some heat coming.
I do think that the second
third and fourth quarter
of 2018
is gonna really deliver
some good music
and some good projects
shit we ain't even
touch on Royce and Cole
the what is it
Bobala
oh wait a minute man
hey hey hey
Savon
find me that fucking
Pitchfork article
where they are reviewing
Royce's album what the fuck me that fucking Pitchfork article where they are reviewing Royce's album.
What the fuck is wrong with Pitchfork?
Prime?
Prime.
Who was the writer?
I don't know who the fucking writer was, but the whole interview, I mean, the write-up
didn't sound the greatest about the album, but it didn't sound the greatest about me.
Oh, yeah.
I wanted you to.
I wanted you to. Oh, this fucking narcissist. I thought he was going to defend me. Oh, yeah. They were on your neck, too.
This fucking narcissist. I thought he was going to defend
Prime. No, I'm not defending Prime.
They were talking about me.
No, he didn't even come to the podcast.
I wonder why.
Fam,
this whole art,
what did I do to somebody at Pitchfork?
I want to know what everybody did.
They were brutal.
What the f-
Last May, a simmering generational conflict
between Lil Yachty and Joe Budden came to a head
on Complex. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Duel, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Royce Budden sometimes-
Royce the Five Nine. Budden sometimes
bandmate in the rap group Slaughterhouse says
that the encounter gave him nightmares.
Listen, my name is in this fuck-
If only the rest of Prime 2 were so generous. The contrast between that they encountered gave him nightmares. Listen, my name is in this fucking... You started off the article?
If only the rest of Prime 2 were so generous.
The contrast between Budden and Yachty
provides a helpful way of understanding
Royce's struggles throughout the record.
Sometimes the veteran Detroit rapper
transcends his natural Buddenism,
avoiding corny punchlines,
esoteric lyrical Easter eggs,
and bars that lead him nowhere.
At other times, he doesn't.
Why are they talking about retired Joe Budden in this prime tube?
There was a lot of Budden talk in there.
They ended with Budden talk.
They started with Budden talk.
What did I do to somebody at Pitchfork?
You had these streets, B.
Everybody's going on about it.
It's part of their rollout.
Yeah.
It's part of their rollout.
Hey, hey, hey.
And that is a real thing.
It's a little stale now, but that is a real thing where publications are just finding ways to force my name into things for the clicks.
Pitchfork, my name didn't have to be in that article 95 times.
It didn't.
It had nothing to do with it.
I'm not even on that album.
He didn't even ask me for a verse.
You're retired.
Huh?
Didn't they sample your voice on something?
I think they did.
Yeah, but come on, Pitchfork.
That's a reach. That's a reach., Petronio. That's a reach.
That's a reach.
That's not acceptable.
That's a reach.
I'm not answering that.
It's clickbait.
On that whole clickbait.
Were you in the headline?
That shit is trash.
Clickbait, man.
And shout out to Royce.
What do y'all think of that co-record?
I liked it.
I actually Googled what a Bumbalo boat was.
I had no idea what it was.
Yeah, I had no idea what it was either. Don't break it, though. I cannot it. I actually Googled what a Bumbalo boat was. I cannot. I had no idea what it was. Yeah, I had no idea what it was either.
Don't break it, though.
Yeah, I enjoyed it.
I cannot understand.
I thought they were trying to say Bumbalo clock, but didn't know how to say it.
I can't understand for the life of me why Royce is putting his new album out so close to his new album.
But I'm shutting up.
I'm not saying anything about it.
I love Royce.
So that's all I got.
Video was cool, too.
That I believe Cole directed
yes for bummer clock okay uh well no it's a good record why y'all keep saying bummer clock like
that I thought that's what it was when I first read it do you do we have to touch on this Odell
shit pause you're the Giants fan so I have nothing to say about it at all I think I said two years
ago the Giants should trade Odell and everybody called me crazy.
Y'all already know how I feel about this.
Get him the fuck out of town.
Well, I think because New York is such a crazy environment,
L.A. is going to be really good for him.
Yeah, go dance.
L.A. is good.
Go dance out there.
Dance in the desert.
Dance out there.
Leave from the Rams facility to Drake's house.
I want nothing to do.
He'd be real close to, whatchamacallit? To Drake's house. To Cal nothing to do. He'd be real close to whatchamacallit.
To Drake's house.
To Calabasas.
He'll be living
in the guest house.
Oh, he's going to get
to Drake's bathroom
before me.
Pause.
Did y'all go see?
What's wrong with you, man?
He's going to get
to Drake's bathroom
before me.
Look where you're trying
to be before me.
Look at where you're trying to get before Odell,
to the Drake bathroom.
To the Drake bathroom.
Don't say the Drake bathroom.
It is.
It's the Drake bathroom.
Oh, shit.
All right, lastly,
because we're going to play some sleepers
and I'm getting the fuck out of here.
Did y'all see the McDonald's?
No, wait.
Odell, we can just breeze over that real quick.
We breeze over everything really quickly on this podcast.
Would you trade him? Trade him? It depends really quickly on this podcast. Would you trade him?
Trade him?
It depends on what I'm offered.
Would you trade him?
Yeah.
I'd trade anybody if I'm offered something I think I need.
And you would trade him, Parks?
Yeah.
They're kind of in a rebuild.
They're on the verge of a rebuild, so you might as well.
My thing is, the reason why I don't think they should be quick to trade him is because the Giants don't have a superstar.
So how are you going to fill the stands?
That's true.
Who was the superstar when we won the last two?
Nobody.
Well, Manning was a superstar at the time.
No, no.
Eli Manning has never been a superstar.
He has been a superstar.
Top-tier quarterback for a few years.
Top-tier quarterback is not a superstar.
His name alone would have been a superstar category.
He was a Manning.
Oh, you let that one little Dunkin' Donut ad fucking hype you up.
It's the truth, though.
He was a Manning.
You know, one time I walked in Dunkin' Donuts and Eli Manning was standing in there.
Because it was the cardboard cutout.
Did you ask him for a selfie?
No, I didn't.
We think I'm Hellrell.
I wasn't sure.
Did he have on a nice button?
Hey, and if I'm wrong about that, if any women out there have indeed asked Hellrail for a selfie, then God damn it, tweet me.
I want to look at you.
You want to see the selfie?
I want to look at the person that asked him for a selfie.
Oh.
That's fair.
Honestly.
And what club was that?
Cheetah?
Probably.
Cheetah.
No, but this had to be in 01 when you wanted a Hellrail selfie.
There was selfies in 01?
No. You could hold in 01? No.
You could hold the camera towards you.
That's sick.
Listen.
The Kodak cardboard box.
Somebody holding a whole camera like this is crazy.
In his defense, he probably looked a lot worse in 01.
Oh, my God, man.
But you know what they should bring back?
Somebody was talking about this recently.
I do miss that whole beam thing that the two ways did.
Oh, you wanted to send contacts?
For all of that smartphone shit, why can't the iPhone Beam?
Why can't I just touch a phone and have some shit from it?
I think you, BBM, I think was the last.
iCloud is not really, I mean, AirDrop.
I know they thought that was really sexy.
Yeah.
I dismiss AirDrop. AirDrop is definitely the Beam. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know they thought that was really sexy. Yeah. I dismiss Airdrop.
Airdrop was definitely the B.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, not rolling with that.
All right, so we got sleepers.
Is there anything else that we...
Well, no.
Did y'all see Lyra was exposed?
Lyra Galore?
How many other Lyras are there?
Lyra Mercer.
What's her name?
What's she going by now?
Lyra Mercer?
She got a new AKA.
Who calls Lira galore Lira Mercy?
I think that's what she was going by.
I think she changed it.
I don't know, man.
You just roll with whatever niggas want to go by.
I don't know what these women do, man.
I don't know.
I don't know what's going on.
But if they change their name, you acknowledge them by their new name?
Whatever you want me to call you, I'm going to call you that.
Rage?
What you want me to do, man?
You know what I'm saying?
Where's the machine at?
Just seen a lot of raging.
I haven't seen machine since.
Word.
Machine with everybody but Rage.
Right.
He went on a little press release.
Sorry, fam.
Did he?
Yeah, he promoted everything but Rage.
That nigga will promote every album but the one that paid him the most.
I don't understand it.
Come on.
Well, Lira was going on
and posting that same picture
she always posts.
It's a bi-monthly thing
where she'll post this shit
from high school
and be like, yo.
TBT.
Women gotta stop doing that.
But it's the same picture
every time.
It's like an angle
where she looked thick
in high school
and is like all natural.
Got it from my mom.
Sometimes they'll go on the
I was teased as a kid for my curves, now I'm
trying to embrace myself. Oh, that's the new thing.
Women are posting their mom now.
Get it from my mom. Shut up. So I think
her doctor was just sick
and tired of seeing the side-by-side
shit and her saying I'm all natural
and said give me my fucking credit
and then went on his Instagram
and posted receipts.
Well, you got to respect it.
You got to give men
his credit.
Yeah, why are doctors
not getting
doctors need a whole
separate union.
Not just a regular union
like a DR union.
They should get royalties.
A DR union.
Look at the union
you want the doctors to have.
Get it?
DR doctor. I got it. I got it. Don't ask me how want the doctors to have. Get it? DR Doctor?
I got it.
I got it the first time.
Don't ask me how.
Wait, you hear Rory's, uh.
He wanted to make sure we got it.
I didn't get it until after I said it.
I got it.
Thanks, Rory.
You're great at this.
Thanks, man.
I've been on an unfollowing spree on Twitter.
Sin putting the pressure on?
No.
No, not my baby.
No, but I don't know. All of them chicks that you speak of
now that keep reposting
the fucking same good picture that they took.
Enough is enough.
I can't look at it.
I can't see it.
I've been following some people for so long, I've seen
literally them go from
one side of the spectrum to the complete other.
Yes.
Twitter's been around long enough that you see that shit is crazy like i've seen women go from being like
nobody to instagram vixen to dj to have my own spa to i'm listen. God damn. Hairlines, salons.
I mean, shit.
Tax lawyers.
They are... Cleaning your credit up.
I've seen a bunch go through them.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Go through the different occupations.
Try to see what sticks.
I've seen a couple go from
freshman hoe to varsity
hoe.
Back to freshman hoe. I've seen a lot of dudes go ho to varsity ho. And then back to freshman ho.
I've seen a lot of dudes go from trying to nail everything on a timeline
to married with three kids.
Yeah, that's true.
I'm like, damn, man.
That's what life is now, huh?
I think from 2009 to 2013 on Twitter
was everybody just trying to figure out how to use Twitter.
Shit was the Wild West, man.
It was a good era.
Wasn't that the greatest time ever?
The golden era, man.
Shit was the Wild West.
Mad rappers ruined their images, me included.
People are still,
I've seen people pulling up old Logic tweets.
He was talking crazy.
Oh, wait a minute.
All right, let's get into Logic.
Wait, what's up with Logic? He's wilding out, man. He's having a good all right let's get into logic wait what's up with
logic he's wilding out he's having a good time he's having a good time he's getting a divorce
he got a number one album in the country oh we didn't talk about tentacion's album that shit was
pretty dope he put out a pretty dope yeah did like a 130 his first week do we know if he's whatever they claim he is
as far as being
an abuser
crazy
I think that's still in court
I'm not gonna say
his album's dope
until I get clarification
on that
until you can co-sign
his album's still dope
if he's guilty or not
to me
I mean
we all co-sign
R. Kelly's music
for years
thank god there's no sponsors
on this podcast
what do you mean
I'm just saying
I don't have nothing to do with that
are you gonna mind being edited once we get sponsors or are you gonna be that creative guy There's no sponsors on this podcast. What do you mean? I'm just saying. I don't have nothing to do with that. I'm talking about the music.
Maul, are you going to mind being edited once we get sponsors?
Or are you going to be that creative guy that won't allow me to produce?
Oh, whatever.
Edit?
I don't think I say anything too crazy, though.
Well, I know that.
I don't.
I don't say anything too crazy.
Do y'all think Maul said a bunch of crazy shit on this podcast in the eyes of sponsors?
When we were going through the me too conversations there was like
three weeks that was a little but also but also but also and everything i was saying you see how
now that is like it's a thing and we're back from commercial break that's right ladies and gentlemen
we've got sleepers for you brand new music from ro james this one is called oh to the twitter
thing i would like a 30 for 30 on the where are the
wake up now people.
That was a good squad.
Yeah.
I want to know what
happened with all of them.
We know a couple of them
are still around.
Who?
Wasn't Fat Joe in wake up now
and Jim Jones.
Oh, Jim Jones was.
Kalen.
There was a bunch of chicks
I followed on Instagram.
Jim Jones was in there,
but I can't ask him about it.
Yeah, I would leave
that one alone.
Jim Jones.
I'd ask Kalen before I asked Jim.
Why was Kalen in Wake Up Now?
You put her in there.
You were managing her.
Yes.
You got royalties off Wake Up Now.
You had 20% off to Wake Up Now,
so don't even lie.
That was your artist.
You did all her visuals.
True.
Her marketing.
I hate when Rory and fucking Parks do their
fucking white brotherhood shit.
Stick together.
Speaking of white brotherhood, really quickly, did anybody see
the McDonald's dunk contest?
I saw the highlights.
Exactly.
What?
No.
I did not see what Exactly. What? No. Huh?
I did not see it.
What happened?
That is exactly how racism started.
And slavery.
All of that.
Enlighten me.
The Zion kid was dunking all over the place.
The little young kid.
Didn't the girl win?
Who cares who won?
What's your point?
My point is
black niggas was hopping around
like Zion was.
You sound like a racist.
You sound like an old white guy.
He's talking about me and his sponsors.
The fuck is he talking about?
I'm bringing up Zion.
Zion's great, great, that nigga's lineage was jumping all around Me and his sponsors. The fuck is he talking about? I'm bringing up Zion. What the fuck is he talking about?
Zion's great, great, that nigga's lineage was jumping all around the damn cotton field.
White people weren't having that shit.
I've said that on this podcast before.
I don't know why y'all all surprised.
Y'all know how my theory on racism started.
But anyway.
What'd you think of Killer Mike's NRA shit?
All right. Everybody was in an uproar because a guy named Killer Mike supports killing.
He's killing the mic, the microphone.
Yo, Killer Mike is my man.
No, he's not.
Let's stop the bullshit.
I'm going to stop letting you get that off on this podcast.
Yo, you don't hate on him, though.
No, I'm not hating.
But why is the Killer Mike not my man?
Because he's not your man.
He's my man.
Everybody can't be your man, Zvi.
You don't like a lot of people.
He's never played Monopoly.
I don't dislike Killer Mike.
I favor Killer Mike.
Pause.
Okay.
That's what I'm saying.
Say that.
I fuck with Killer Mike, even though I'm about.
Yo, that's what that's my man means.
That's what my man means. I fuck with this person, even though I am about yo that's yo that's what that's my man means that's my man means i
fuck with this person even though i am about to say some things that would make you believe
otherwise 100 kill mike should shut the fuck up look how fast we got to that but i've said that
on this podcast before i've that's not a new thing killer mike has been saying a lot of bullshit
but because he's fucking mad dark and righteous and righteous, we just got to roll.
No.
He said good shit more than he has bad shit.
That's true.
Of course.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wait, wait, wait.
I'm not taking away from all of the fucking political Bernie Sanders good shit that Killer Mike has done.
But he has said a lot of bullshit, too.
And this is, well, he backpedaled.
He took it back.
Well, my only thing was, what did you think the NRA was going to do with your interview?
I wouldn't imagine the NRA would be your best friend.
Of course, they're going to use your interview in the wake of everyone going against them
and say, hey, look at the guy that's been supporting y'all.
It don't really matter what you said.
You met with them, and they used you the way they wanted to.
So I go on,
I'm trying to find
the Killer Mike rant
so I can not toss
everything to Savon
and I open Instagram
and it's the Explore page
and it's the Amara Allegra girl
doing some fucking dance
in a bikini.
Again,
not playing any music.
This girl refuses
to make music.
I thought she had
a record out.
I like that song she played at the, whatever that was.
Did you guys watch Love and Hip Hop last night to see this shit that's going on?
The Atlanta one.
Yeah.
Yeah, I did watch it.
Oh, man.
My man back at it.
Unfortunately, I can't.
I caught pieces of it.
I had to watch it once I saw my man on the screen.
Who's that?
Stevie J.
It's my man.
It's over. For Stevie that? Stevie J. That's my man. It's over.
For Stevie J?
Hell no.
Crazy.
Crazy.
He's got a show.
Right after Love and Hip Hop went up.
Yeah, I'm about to say.
Two episodes.
His own show came on right after that.
Look at Stevie.
You watched it?
Huh?
Yeah, I had to.
Wait, wait, wait.
I didn't watch that.
You have to watch Stevie J.
Wait, no, slow down.
You have to.
All right, Byron, but slow down.
I don't want to talk over you.
Get these jokes out.
You was on the couch?
Yeah.
Alone?
Nah, me and my,
it was me and my homeboy
was watching it.
We was watching the game
and then we was turning channels
and I saw Stevie,
so I left it there.
Oh, this is getting better and better.
Yeah.
Wait, so you and your mans was on the couch just watching the game, but. First of all, men always put the game, and then we turned the channels, and I saw Stevie, so I left it there. Oh, this is getting better and better. Yeah. Wait, so you and your mans on the couch is watching a game.
First of all, men always put the game, like that's their back.
I was watching it.
No idea what game was on.
The game.
I've done it before, too.
I do that shit all the time.
I was watching the game.
I'm watching a commercial game.
I've done that before.
Then I decided to flick back and forth between Philly and Stevie J.
Yeah. I had to see what Markel was looking like his first game.
I had to see it.
And then you had to see what Stevie's son was wearing to the prom, huh?
No, I'm just saying.
Once I saw Stevie J on TV, it's like, I haven't seen this dude in so long.
Let me see what he got going now.
And sure enough, he didn't disappoint me.
He got some new shit.
He got a new Spanish chick he tried to turn into an artist.
No, that chick was there already.
I don't know.
This is the first time I've watched it.
That's why I'm saying it's over.
Oh, okay.
Every season,
they do that.
But it works.
And this is the same chick
from last season.
But it works.
I don't know if it's working now
because Jocelyn the next day
posted that they lost
1.9 million viewers without her.
Jocelyn Hayden.
Where's Jocelyn?
That's her Hayden card.
She could have kept that to herself.
Where did she get those numbers from?
1.9 million in the northeastern region
did not watch last night
because I am no longer on there. I know where my
fan base comes from.
Jocelyn, if you don't get the fuck
out of here. Ever since Maul started hanging out with
Kris Jenner, all that nigga's views have changed
on everything. I don't hang out with Kris Jenner. Yes, you do views have changed on everything. I don't hang out with Kris Jenner.
Yes, you do.
I saw you doing shots.
Oh, my God.
With Kris Jenner.
You toasted with her.
With a smile I've never seen.
No, I did not, man.
With a smile I've never seen.
I've never seen you have that smile before.
I have never seen that smile.
Which makes me feel like I don't even know the real you.
Shut up.
But then I asked that on this podcast, how often you smile.
All right, so you were flicking between Stevie J and Markel Fultz.
No, once I saw that Stevie J was on, I said, no, I got to see what he's talking about.
And sure enough, he was on this bullshit.
Yeah.
What do you think about-
He's entertaining, man.
He's just, that dude, there's something wrong with him.
What do you think about Erykah Mina and what's going on?
I mean, she was throwing shots at the other chick name.
She was trying to date.
She was trying to ask the other chick out on a date.
Tommy.
Tommy.
That's her name, yeah.
I don't know.
Eric Amina has a great mouth, though.
She has a pretty mouth.
Beautiful teeth.
Nice lips.
No, she does.
I told my own boy, I'm like, damn, she spent like
that was a great investment. Her teeth are
flawless. I want to come over and watch
it with you and your homeboy.
Yeah, come check it out, man.
Next Monday. Let's record for Maul's show.
I want to hear the moment
that Maul looked over and said, oh, look at Erica's
teeth. Well, no, he
it was other things being said that I won't
say here, but.
Don't hit last. Rory.
Rory. Rory.
Hit last on the remote.
Yeah.
That's how you got to do it.
On the timeout, go back to the game.
Yo, do me a solid hit last.
Yeah.
You know, Moe tried to say it, man.
Scammer-ish.
Yeah.
Scammer-ish.
He presented a reach for the blame.
Yo, hit last, my G.
You right.
That's how you say it.
Scammerish.
Scammerish.
Yeah, man, but Stevie's entertaining, man.
I'm sorry.
I didn't know he was still doing Love & Hip Hop, honestly.
You think he's the best that ever been on it?
Male?
For sure.
By far.
You got Peter Gunz fucked up a little bit.
Peter Gunz.
Peter Gunz had dirty feet and a guitar on the first episode
I saw him on there.
Get out of here.
It's legendary shit.
That'd be a good race.
That versus.
No way.
Stevie?
He has his own show.
He clearly is the
biggest male
whatever.
Stevie also showed up
to a therapy session
with a side bitch
and his wife
with a I am God shirt on.
Stevie is legendary, bro. Legend on. Stevie is legendary, bro.
Legendary.
This is legendary, nigga.
Put that love for all.
Like dying to find
something I learned to blow.
Uptown is the place
to party rock it, nigga.
You wasn't outside
more than it was in Austin.
Nine millimeter.
No, you wasn't.
No, you wasn't.
Right at Yankee Stadium.
What are you talking about, nigga?
This nigga's crazy. He wasn't at the stadium back then wasn't. I was at Yankee Stadium. What are you talking about, nigga? This nigga's crazy.
He wasn't at the stadium back then.
Yes, I was at Yankee Stadium when they did that.
You hear me?
I know nothing about who was there.
He wasn't at the stadium back then.
The stadium.
Oh, man.
Oh, shit.
Don't try to act like this ain't a classic, man.
Don't act like Stevie don't got mad words.
Yeah, we ain't act like Stevie is chomping on his production
side of things
like don't do that
it's Stevie or the hitman
he is part of the hitman
he is the hitman
ah see get out of here
get out of here
alright so let me tell you
alright so y'all don't
give a fuck about Love, Hate, Love
I think we covered everything
we'll do something for like
30 minutes and then
Joe will be like
y'all don't give a fuck
about that topic
why do we even do this podcast?
I don't know why we do this podcast.
There's nothing else to talk about, though. I think we got everything right.
I think so.
Did you guys see the Roxanne Shantae movie?
No, but Ian said it's really bad.
He said it's really bad?
Bad?
Everybody I heard say it was dope.
I enjoyed it.
Ian says he has no idea who that is.
Ian's white and Jewish.
Yeah, he don't know who that is.
There wasn't nothing bad about it.
Actually, they didn't rob her enough for their deal.
I hated it.
She got away with her royalties.
I hated the ending.
Ian, you know it's a real movie.
That is hilarious.
That's pretty funny.
I'm going to watch it now to laugh at Ian.
No, it was good, though.
You'll like it.
You'll like it.
I'll check it out. And it was shot, like, just the quality of the... It was dope. Yeah, it was dope though You'll like it You'll like it I'll check it out
And it was shot
Like just the quality
It was dope
Yeah it was dope
On the Canon
I wasn't on no Canon
I don't know if I was rolling
With a kid that played Nas
But other than that
I hate when
That's the one
I think I said it before
I hate when
People have like
Biopics
And like
They want you to know
Who the person is
They're told
Like they say their name
Like 15 times.
Yo, what's your name, Joey?
Come on, Nasir.
I told you, Nasir.
Next time you come over here, Nasir,
you better have your rhymes ready, Nasir.
We get it.
That's supposed to be Nas.
Stop saying his name.
In 10 years, you might drop Illmatic.
Yeah, like, come on, man.
Stop.
Oh, they did that?
Yeah.
Oh, man.
I got to watch this.
But if you watch the Illmatic documentary,
Nas tells that story
and I think that's where
they got that story from
of course that's where
they got the story from
well I'm gonna watch it
since I'm just dying
for Netflix to start
putting out English projects
they made Biz
they made Biz
mad fat
off rip
I was like
I think he was skinny then
yeah he was I think
yeah I kinda felt bad
for Biz Markie
I don't think he was fat
what do y'all rank Biz Markie what I don't think he was fat. What do y'all rank Biz Markie?
What?
I don't think I've ever been asked that question before in my life. He's definitely the precursor to ODB and Busta Rhymes and a whole section of Unseeing.
See more?
That's why we don't kick Parks off.
But wait, hold up.
But you mean we're outranking him as far as what, an artist?
Let me stop because fans think I'm serious about that
as an artist
yes
I don't
I mean
I don't know
top 70
I don't think
he has enough content
he doesn't have enough music
to really
sure he's got like
nah
six albums at least
I think
you probably not familiar
with all of that
I'm not familiar
with all of that
he was making a bunch of
albums he should have stopped but yeah not familiar with all that I'm not familiar with all that he was making a bunch of albums
he should have stopped
but
yeah for sure
for sure
alright I won't
beat you guys down
with Biz Markie rankings
so Sleepers right
just making sure
we got everything
alright
you guys care about
Facebook sharing
everyone's data
to ruin the world
yeah
we knew that was coming
I'll be dead
you should delete
your profile
because I know you're heavy on the I don't have a you're heavy on the book
that's brandon heavy on the book
all right so i will go first as soon as i figure out what's wrong with my uh computer oh so what i
wanted to do was all right i'll play this record off the Ro James EP
I know Ro's got music coming
Ro is my man
I can say that
I can say Ro's my man
right
since you're tired of me
saying niggas is my man
Ro ain't your man
what are the qualifications
for somebody to be your man
ain't your man
what's my man
you use that word like friend
like you have to be my friend
to be my man
you can say that's your
I don't know
Associate
Yeah
I don't even know
Associate sounds more serious
Than that's my man
Rory calls all his associates
D'Ussé Palooza
I never say a word
Wait what
I called them D'Ussé Palooza
Call them
Call somebody D'Ussé Palooza
Yo that's my D'Ussé Palooza
Over there
That's my D'Ussé
Yo y'all are stupid.
This song is called Special off the New Ro James EP called Smoke.
And this shit is hard, man.
Yeah. Focus, can't help but notice
Keep the flame lit, and I own the same shit
So nice, had to do it twice
Your eyes shine like the moonlight
I'll find you
When you go
Yeah, you gotta fly, fly, fly
Puttin' on for your man, baby
We so high, if you fall
Then I'ma catch you when you land
I'm so starstruck when I see ya I'm your biggest fan
You hold my heart and you didn't even have to use your hands, baby
Special, special
Only one of you around, baby
Never going out you around, baby Never go, never stay, baby
Special, special Only one of you around, baby
I just wanna love you down, baby I'm gonna never get out
Hate to see you leave, but I love it when you come through
Ain't another woman that could change the way I want you
Every time I take a hit, I reminisce about you
Just reminds me
You got a pie, fly, fly, puttin' on for your man, baby
We so high, if you bought that, I'ma catch you when you land
I'm so starstruck when I see you, I'm your biggest fan
You hold my heart and you did it, the path to you so close, babe
Special, special
Only one of you in the world, baby
Let me go and let us go, baby
Special, special Only one of you can go, baby Let me go and let us go, baby
Special, special, yeah Only one of you, alright, baby
I just wanna let you down, baby
You're flawless like them VVS diamonds When they show you off, baby
Every time they take a look at you They gon' see why you're mine, baby
You're the VIP
Don't need no RSVP
Get your 9 at 143
Let me show you what you mean to me
Special
Special
Special
Only one of you for me, baby
Let me do what I just gotta, baby
Special, special, baby
Special, yeah, yeah
Only one of you for me, baby
I just wanna let you down, baby I only want you around
I just wanna take my time
That's right ladies and gentlemen
That was brand new music
From my man Ro James
That one is called Special
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I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm Hey Rory, don't look now.
I've been trying to steal our vibe
two weeks in a row.
Yeah, see?
Don't let this ever drop in a beat change.
Oh, this is going to kill the pool party
This does kinda sound like Jhené
I see what you got there for This honeymoon could take you out of the darkness Feels like we, we alone together
We shine, we shine, we shine Shine like glitter
Glitter It's like our world
Reflection
Shine like glitter
Glitter Reflection Reflection Reflection I know you want that book with light in your life, yeah
I think I got that everything you desire
This tiny moon could take you out of the darkness
Feels like we belong together We shine, we shine, we shine.
I know you know I just let out a mind you.
I'm about to take you on a ride of your life.
My last trip, I picked you up on a fly.
I know we belong together now.
We shine, we shine, we shine Shine like glitter
Glitter
It's like our world
Reflection glimmer
Shine like glitter
Glitter
It's like.
Shine like glitter
Shine like glitter
Shine like glitter so
That's Keys and Kray's Glitter featuring Ambry Perkins.
I hope I'm saying her name right.
Damn, Mo trying to steal my whole swag.
That's kind of crazy.
I was going to play some Westside Gun today, too.
Steal his swag.
Westside did just put out a project that's really good,
and Conway just put out a project that's really good and Conway just put out a project that's really good yeah
I hear Conway's
but Westside goes
though
yeah
well
shit
now I gotta come back
with a good barefoot
a good barefoot
he had something about
glitter in his shit
I know
I hope you're gonna beat that
I have my socks on
right now for sure
alright so this is
Anders
I Don't Want Your Love Think I had enough, enough I could see through you
You did everything you said you wouldn't do
You're praying I don't find somebody new
I'm trying but I can't help it, can't help it
I don't want your love no more
It's not what I'm looking for
I don't want your love
If you can't be the one I want
Baby, I'm gone, say it ain't so Baby So
I believe you are my angel
Now you're dancing with the devil
It ain't that enough
I think I had enough
I could see through you
You did everything you said you wouldn't do
You're praying I don't find somebody new
I'm trying but I can't help it, can't help it
I don't want your love no more
It's not what I'm looking for I don't want your love Baby I could see through you
You did everything you said you wouldn't do
You're praying I don't find somebody new
I'm trying but I can't help it, can't help it
I don't want your love no more
Ayy
It's not what I'm living for
You know what I mean?
By now your whole living room should be swept and vacuumed
I don't want your love
Maybe even mopped, you know what I mean?
Ayy
If you can't be the one I want
Baby, I'm on up That was Anders, I Don't Want Your Love Yeah, more the one I want baby oh oh love
that was Anders
I Don't Want Your Love
yeah Mo
your single was 99 cents
mine was 4 bucks
mmm
mine was 4 bucks
Mo wasn't buying singles
back then
look at Joe Sway
he's like
68 years old
I was about to say
Joe been outside
since the 60s.
I was outside earlier than most people my age.
Now, when did Maul start coming outside?
I've been outside for a long time, man.
96?
96.
Fuck out of here.
96?
How old are you in 96?
Come on, man.
Stop it.
I don't know.
My math is bad.
96? You think I just started coming outside in 96? No, you 96? Come on man stop it I don't know my math is bad 96?
You think I just started Coming outside in 96?
No I'm asking
But you had a curfew?
No
What year you stopped
Having a curfew?
Stopped having a curfew?
Yeah
Yeah pressure bus pipes nigga
Yeah
My freshman year
High school
I didn't have a curfew
My freshman year I just knew to be have a curfew My freshman year
I just knew to be home
At a certain
Like I had to go to school
The next day
Like shit
I'm going to sleep
Alright shut up
Let's not give Trey any ideas
He gonna keep a curfew
Trey has plenty already
Yeah word
He got too many ideas
This was a really good podcast man
I enjoyed you guys
Did you?
You had a good time?
Felt really good
Felt good
Not be around Billy
Rory don't do that again I invited Rory, don't do that again.
I invited Billy?
Rory, don't do that again.
Yeah, you invited Billy.
That's funny.
You invited Bridget, and Bridget came with Billy, so it falls on you.
Kitchen Billy.
That's true.
That is a plus one rule.
Well, now that you mention it, Billy.
Kitchen Billy.
Come on out.
No, I almost fucked Billy up last week.
No, I tweet about it.
But more would have judged me.
I would have judged you?
Put your ear into an empty box. If I would have got up and hit have judged you if I would have got up
and hit you
you would have blew my phone
I'm like come on
you're wowing
I would have said that here
to you
what you mean
I wouldn't have texted you
and said that
that's my point
yeah
we know Billy was a little
he was
that's your
you can't beat up
you showed him where the bullets was at
you can't beat up niggas
that's another rule.
Well, sometimes you can.
Billy started asking for fucking money on the Billy merch shirts.
All right, Billy, I should have hit you.
Billy merch.
Whose idea was that?
Yours?
No.
Do you think that was my idea, Mo?
I saw you post it.
That's a good point. You think everything I- And you had a caption. saw you post it. That's a good point.
And you had a caption.
I'm thinking that was from your brain trust.
What?
Your brain trust.
Did someone run your account?
That wasn't nobody but him and Ian
sitting around bouncing dumbass ideas.
Let's make a hashtag shut up Billy
and with your face,
but let's cross out your face
and make the shut up, Billy,
like your bandana around your eyes.
They're going to love it.
They're going to love it.
They're going to love it.
Wait, time out.
A lot is funny about what you're saying.
That's my brain trust.
That's your brain trust.
It was you and Ian.
And Keith.
Yeah, you, Ian, and Keith.
Rory, that was an aggressive laugh.
Keith chimed in.
I'd buy that.
Don't get your little new job and start looking down on your fucking unemployed friends, my nigga.
I'll try to get you a check.
And I got another maybe.
I mentioned your name in a meeting today for something.
Don't.
I keep telling Rory to stop mentioning my name in his Duce meetings.
I'm not drinking Duce.
We're not putting Duce on the fucking party table. Duce is pretty good. That's pretty good. Duce is pretty good. What mean you mentioned me meetings. I don't not drinking Duce. We're not putting Duce
on the fucking
table.
That's pretty good.
Duce is pretty good.
What mean you mentioned me?
I just don't like the bottle.
That's some other shit.
I'll tell you later.
Something you would want to do.
Yeah.
Let's see.
Anytime.
Rory is not the friend
that knows what I want to do.
All right.
All right.
Great.
So we'll talk to you guys
next week or Friday.
Both. Yeah. I'll talk to you guys next week or Friday. Both.
Yeah, I'll talk to you guys, man.
Bye.
We didn't even touch on Trump.
Who cares?
Trump touched on everyone.
We know that.
Hey, hold on.
Let me hit the little.
Don't hit that.
Are you too cool for that?
You don't think that you being too cool is kind of ruining the podcast a little bit?
Nothing I do ruins this podcast. Throw an air horn. You know what I'm you being too cool is kind of ruining the podcast a little bit?
Nothing I do ruins this podcast.
You know what I'm saying? Nothing I do.
No, no, no,
no, no, no.
No.
Bye.
That's all I got for you guys.
Goodbye.