The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 159 | "Cleared"
Episode Date: April 25, 2018This week, Joe had a lot to get off of his chest. He, Rory and Mal begin with Kanye’s latest antics, Joe questions why no other prominent media personality challenges Kanye but instead gives him a p...ass for his behaviour (6:53). He also addresses Rosenberg’s Twitter comments regarding the podcast (35:13). Also, J.Cole dropped his latest album “KOD” and the guys decide he may be the most difficult rapper to judge and Joe also compares J.Cole to himself (46:13). And lastly, former member of Slaughterhouse, Crooked I, announced his departure from the rap group and Joe speaks on it (1:06:10). Sleeper Picks of The Week: Rory: Khalid (feat. Ty Dolla $ign and 6lack) - “OTW” | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjf-h6NMj7U&feature=share Joe: JMSN - “So Badly” |https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26CJcxvsIqA&feature=share Mal: NBDY - “Used To” | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4VxOsHA3qE&feature=share
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Hey, Mic Check. Mic Check 1212. How's everybody doing out there on this beautiful Wednesday?
That's right, we are back on Wednesdays. Let me hit the air horn.
Hey, you other podcasts can drop on your normal days again.
Hey, that's right, y'all. I like it. Hey, let me hit my air horn.
Hold on, let me turn this down someall. I like it. Hey. Let me get my air horn. Hold on.
Let me turn this down some so niggas know my vibe.
Did somebody in High Five die?
They did, right?
He died.
Rest in peace to him.
I really fucked with him a lot.
Hold up, man.
You can't cut it off yet.
Hey, come on, Maul.
Maul, so my theory, I played this for you.
Why?
Wait, pause.
What the fuck you played?
Because I have a theory.
What's your theory?
My theory is, well, first of all, the last few weeks,
we've been off a little bit, like with the times and shit, right?
But also the last few weeks, I've played very aggressive music
at the start of the podcast.
And I mentioned this theory to Parks a long time ago. But I feel like the song at the start of the podcast. And I mentioned this theory to Parks a long time ago.
But I feel like the song at the top of the podcast sets the tone for the podcast.
And now you have the YouTube people thinking that me and you are going to fight.
I read the YouTube comments.
They've been thinking we were going to fight.
No, no, no.
No, but that's important.
That's important.
How do they think everybody's going to fight?
Well, the hook is on, so hold up.
We can't even talk about fighting when this chorus is on.
All right.
Mic check.
One, two, one, two.
Mic check.
One, two, one, two.
All right.
We are here.
Welcome to the Joe Button Podcast.
No Joe Button.
Also, I didn't hit our drop last year.
No.
No.
That's my other theory.
When I don't hit our drops, it just don't go according to plan.
That's one.
And two, Maul.
All right, so you two people have had you about to fight Parks a few months ago.
Which is crazy.
But I never thought they would think that you would have the smoke for me.
Wait a minute.
Let me turn down the gunshot a little bit.
It was a conversation.
I would think you before Parks were Maul.
Because y'all get into it.
Not like that.
But like y'all. See, are you joking right now? No. Are you serious? No, because people parts, because y'all get into it. Not like that.
Are you joking right now?
Are you serious?
No, because people don't know y'all relationship.
And when y'all argue,
it may look like it's really heated
and it's not.
Joe's heated with everybody.
That's what I'm saying.
That's not true.
Yeah.
Well, that's what everybody says about me.
Yeah.
But this is more so based on you, though.
I'd be chill.
They don't say Joe's
about to fuck everybody
up in the podcast.
I thought I was
the most chill.
You're not, man.
You're not.
You're not, man.
I'm here for you.
So I played
a different song.
I was a little aggressive
last week.
Yeah.
Just a little bit.
Let me apologize
to the room.
My bad.
I was going to pull you
to the side.
Like, hey, man.
My bad.
Was it cool?
I'm cool, man. So I'm in a great, great great great great mood I'm glad that we are back to our normal schedule but I ain't gonna lie I got smoke for niggas this week man
we're gonna gradually get into the smoke well where do we start first it ain't much happened
ain't much happened this week so I got smoke for niggas.
A lot happened just within two specific topics.
Wouldn't say nothing happened.
Well, how was everyone's week, first of all?
My week was cool.
Weather's starting to change a little bit.
Y'all are always unsure about your week.
Well, I had to think about it.
Sometimes you have a rough week.
We didn't even say what episode this is.
What is this?
Episode 159. Yeah. Sw is what is this episode 159
yeah
swag me out
episode 159
of the Joe Budden podcast
I'm Joe Budden
Rory's talking
for some reason
Parks and Mall is here
Erickson is here
Savon is here
uh
man
niggas weeks
were just cool
pretty uneventful week
I feel like
are we talking about
the weekend
or the week
whatever I don't care.
I think I got drunk.
I went to Atlanta for like 24 hours.
That was cool.
Oh, yeah, how was that?
A lot of podcast fans in Atlanta.
I was happy about that.
You out there, amigo.
Because we dissed the South so much.
I felt the love.
I was happy.
Did we diss the South?
No.
We're just New Yorkers, and it just sounds like it.
You know what it is?
We don't diss the South, but we don't have accurate Southern representation on the podcast.
So it's not that we diss the South.
We just don't share some of the perspectives that they do in the South.
But shout out to all the listeners in the South.
It's not that we're New York biased, but we are.
We're definitely New York biased.
That's not true, though, because if you pick four niggas from New York who really fuck with Southern hip-hop, I would pick us.
Yeah.
Like out of a crew.
Think all the New York crews are friends.
I'm picking us.
I think we know more stuff.
We would win that Friends That Feud battle.
For Southern hip-hop?
For Southern hip-hop in New York.
Yeah, we would.
We're never doing Friends That Feud again, by the way.
They won't get me to buy drinks all night 20 minutes before so you're just buying drinks each category you had no choice
more we didn't really touch on this topic last week because i wasn't feeling your swag
but you said uh when we did the friends that feud because y'all insulted me and I didn't react to it.
Y'all said I was of no help.
Y'all said that
when they asked
who had the most
Sports Illustrated covers
and I said Michael Jordan,
you all laughed me out of the room
and that was the correct answer.
I was going to say
that would have been my guess.
Who did you say?
Kobe.
Maul said Tiger Woods.
I think we did.
I said Tiger Woods.
He said it with such conviction though
that I just kind of thought that that was the right answer.
No, no, no.
It's not that I thought that was the right answer.
That's why it makes sense that it's Mike, though.
We looked at Maul to be the sports guy, and the whole group was like, all right, we rolling with Maul.
But thinking about it now, Mike makes sense because at that time when Mike was Mike, Sports Illustrated was just.
I needed you to think about it before.
Well, just to note, that was like the first question.
And then you checked out for the next 20.
Not true.
Then the very next question was Venus Williams has won how many Grand Slams?
Did we get that right?
No, because I then said, well, Maul said to Venus Williams was popping prior to Serena for a long time.
So we assume that number to be large.
Then I said to Maul, hey, what is a Grand Slam in tennis?
Just to make sure, because I was confused.
It's like when you win a bunch of different things.
Because I confuse it with the cycle.
No, I don't think.
There is one tournament called the Grand Slam, I think.
No.
Can you Google that, Savant? Because the correct answer i think no no like um can you google that savon because
because the incorrect answer was venus williams at like 18 and she has not swept the 18 times
the kobe one right all-star appearances and y'all should be gonna get the kobe one right yeah
yeah we took some thinking with that one too yeah it did but i got it right but we won
somehow we came back and won it's four four tournaments, as I said. Yeah. And she won 17 of them motherfuckers.
God damn, Venus.
She was wilding before.
But I did think it was 19 up there somewhere around there for some reason.
All right.
Anyway, a lot to get into.
So let's get into it.
Do we want to start with Cole or do we want to start with Kanye?
I'm telling y'all now, if y'all don't feel the way I feel about Kanye, then I'm going
to get aggressive.
Maul has kind of been
sick of Kanye for a while.
I've been sick of Kanye.
Maul, Maul,
I'm with you today, Maul.
Today we will form
an alliance.
Okay.
We will put our past
transgressions behind us
and bond over this Kanye topic.
Transgressions.
Transgressions.
Oh, now Rory's about to feel.
I said how I felt on Sunday.
Well, listen.
When everyone else was dancing, I was the only one that said it.
I'm tying this Kanye shit to modern day slavery, to Saha's tweets.
Are you going?
to Saha's tweets, to compromised media, to new strategic marketing,
to like so many different things, man.
Listen, if you're listening to this podcast for the first time, pardon me, you are about to hear me in my true state, which is obsessive as a fuck.
I have had nothing but time to obsess over what the hell is going on here so
i guess let's start with kanye let me make a distinction because i see i've seen a few people
attack me during my six in the morning twitter rants that i delete before everyone wakes up
uh people say joe you have to pick a side of the fence to stand on
because on one point you say you're only here for the music.
And then on another hand, you're sick of Kanye.
That's a valid criticism.
Yeah, but you could still be sick of him and still want to listen to the music.
Let me respond to these people first because I'll forget all of my points
and I do want to hear from you guys i'm talking about kanye west the person right now i'm not
having a music discussion i want to talk to my good friends about kanye west the person and as
much as it seems like a very repetitive and redundant topic because we've
discussed Kanye West the person and some of his views before I see it a bit clearer now today
now we are going to talk about his music because I'm a Kanye West fan musically
but I'm separating the two I am able to do that i don't want to mix them up when people
talk music they get into the people i don't want to do that so let me make that clear now
what do y'all think about these tweets i think he i think this is because kanye is is very
calculated he's very meticulous he's you. So, it's just ironic that.
I don't know if he's calculated.
No, he's calculated.
I think he emotionally just says shit.
He blurts out whatever pops in his brain.
But even that's calculated.
With calculation.
Yeah, with calculation.
Even that's like, he, it doesn't surprise me that he's doing all of this around promotion time.
Oh, well, of course.
You know what I'm saying?
So, it's like, what he's doing is, you know, this is what he does.
He pops out of his hole whenever it's a project coming or he has some shit going on.
And, you know, everybody starts talking about, like right now he's the talk of the internet.
You can't, you know what I'm saying, go on any social media app and not see Kanye something.
So I think this is exactly what he wants.
My beef is not with Kanye something yeah so I think this is exactly what he wants my beef is not with Kanye West uh oh and let me make something else clear before we delve further and I and I forget
I have no problem with Kanye West being a Republican
I think that's important to state damn that's a nasty place we in where we got a preface shit
with political views right and that's one of the reasons in where we got to preface shit with political views. Right.
And that's one of the reasons.
I like, remember the world when, like,
that was taboo, people's political views?
Right.
You didn't even speak about it.
I prefer it that way.
Because this is... It was, like, offensive to ask.
Because this is the fucking,
the untold caveat that it comes with.
Once people start talking about their political views,
I'm judging you, man.
Yeah, I think that's natural.
That's a natural thing to do. The fuck is Sahai the Prince tweeting about
at three in the morning?
What'd he say?
He said, y'all do know Martin Luther King was a Republican, right?
Oh, God.
Stop. Nobody say anything.
We love Sahai's album how could you even make that album and make that fucking statement but wait that's not true let me take it back let me take it back let me take it back
I haven't started my weird conspiracy theory podcast yet but I agree with them I agree I don't
I'm not I say all the time I I'm not one of the fucking black people
that just blame white people for everything.
That's not who I am, personally.
So I think what some people are isolating
with Saha and Kanye and this Candace Brown woman
that I didn't know who she was until I Googled
is that you can be Republican
and not be so alt-wing.
That's what they're saying.
Which is true.
They're preaching the whole black people do not need to look at white people to fix black issues.
I agree.
I agree. Let me say that and i've never shared any of my
views and i'm not talking about it neither with none of you niggas but i agree with that
but i don't think that's the problem here either nor do i think that's so what that
one of candace owens wait before we get this side of fucking Prince with your
amazing album and all of your woke shit that you speak y'all be leaving a whole lot of context out
and I'm sure you've done further research to know better so you didn't further tweet that way back
then the Republicans and the Democrats what the party stood for was a little different back
then you left you left
you left that out
it's like
and that's going to lead me I'm telling
you I'm obsessed about all this so when I
saw a side do this and stick up
for Kanye and his fuckity fuck
shit it reminds
me a crook and the shit
he's doing but we'll talk about that later
everybody's sticking up for their guy regardless of of the optics of shit side i don't understand
that but we'll put that to the side back to this kanye tweet with candace brown owens i think her
last name is candace owens i apologize i'm not purposely getting anyone's name wrong uh am i off base in in my start to this no i don't think so now this has been
this has been in the works for quite some time with mr west so i guess what am i really angry at
this is what i'm fed up this is what i'm angry at let me tell you guys what i'm what i really angry at? This is what I'm fed up.
This is what I'm angry at.
Let me tell you guys what I'm,
what I'm angry at.
Cause a couple of people tweeted some real stupid shit to me and it's too
stupid for me to even repeat.
But the problem here is this.
Oh,
and I hate to sound like this guy cause I'm not this guy.
Kanye West is one of our more prominent black voices,
and he used that voice to speak toward black issues,
and not only did we appreciate that from him,
but it kind of accelerated his pop star career.
We put him there.
We did that. that the themes on kyle's dropout were significant to that yeah do not doubt the power in consume consumption and the buyer we
did that yeah kanye with the funny two polos on and we didn't understand and the louis backpack that beanie and dame thought
was a little weird but the beats were fire we put that nigga there that nigga's a musical genius
for me it's very unfortunate that now i gotta get into all of this other shit with him the
side meetings with Trump.
Listen, here's a hot take.
I don't think it's by coincidence that some of his more famous friends are distancing themselves from him.
Hey, I don't have anything to back that up.
I have nothing to support that at all.
All I know is this.
Y'all heard 444.
We don't need to talk about it y'all heard that album y'all see swiss beats roller skating around black museums and setting up foundations in africa
right and you already know the shit puff is on there's a few more really prominent black voices
out there that are trying to do some things differently
to affect black people differently i even hate that this podcast sound like i'm on some political
preachy shit but i very important to me because it seemed like kanye is the only person that
consistently gets a pass so when will black people say, nah, nah, nah.
And all people could say to me is, well, if his album is fire, he better hope it's fire.
Huh?
What do you mean if his album is fire?
I don't understand what the fuck.
Wait, then go get Sabrina Claudio out the garbage.
Because I liked her music.
I did.
Hey, hey, hey, wait, wait, hold up.
They trying to get rid of Daniel Caesar now, too.
Let me hit the air horn in this bitch.
What are you doing?
He also follows the Candace Owens lady.
That was enough for people.
They went to her page.
They said Daniel Caesar follows her.
Get this backwood looking nigga out of here, too.
Sometimes you got to follow the opposition. Hit this backwood looking nigga out of here too. Sometimes you gotta follow the opposition.
Hit this backwood.
That's funny.
I read that.
I didn't say that.
Y'all know I'm a huge
Daniel Caesar fan.
This backwood.
But y'all know
the second that
these niggas fall out
of our favor,
we gonna tell the truth.
No, but Kanye gets a pass because people have grown with his music for quite some time.
They were 13, 14 when he first came out and attached themselves to him as a person, not just his music.
So it's a little different than a Sabrina Claudio who just came out or a Daniel Caesar that just came out.
And Kanye was speaking to the opposite of what he's speaking about now right that's which is why it's a little weird
when someone raps uh my mother was arrested for the sit-ins with that in my blood i was born to
be different and then now saying you know i really like how this candace owens chick thinks
right it's just a complete 180 and people are shocked by it and and let me say I'm not mad at you, Kanye, for liking the way that this young woman thinks.
I'm indifferent.
But I think you're too much of a genius to not understand the impact of finishing the sentence.
Because if you don't tell us exactly what you like about how this young woman thinks, it's going to leave us to just dig into how she thinks.
And when we dig into how she thinks, it's not cute.
So what specific portion of her brain are you admiring?
And that's the thing.
He just put one sentence.
He's now putting himself against everything that woman thinks.
If he would have got a bit more into detail,
he may have gotten less negative feedback.
So here we are, strategic marketing,
the same way I accused M's handlers
of attaching a rollout onto the racial climate.
I'm accusing Kanye the same thing.
For sure.
Just on the opposite side of the spectrum.
Eminem was talking to black people and fucking with us,
and Kanye is fucking with the white people
and the people with the money.
Yeah, Kanye makes up...
He ain't thinking about y'all.
He don't even...
Like many of you have said,
he don't even talk to y'all
until it's time to sell something.
Yeah, Kanye, but he...
He's quiet about all this free-thinking shit
and issues with black people,
whether it be Candace Owens' point of view
or someone else's.
He only does that when an album
or a sneaker is coming out.
He's dead quiet until then.
So you can't say how you like how that woman thinks when you're quiet all the time.
But for a while now, I've just been feeling like Kanye, he's in a different space mentally
and in his life.
I don't think that he's not speaking for the same people he started out speaking for, making
music for the same people he started out making music for.
for the same people he started out speaking for, making music for the same people he started out making music for.
Now, Kanye, what Kanye's doing now, from what I'm just looking at, is he's doing everything
for the rich white kids.
Even from fashion, he's making them look cool.
You know what I mean?
He's giving them that cool factor.
The music.
The way kids party now.
Nothing is really for what it started out as like it the
sound is different the look is different he looks different i mean it's like you know so you got to
understand that it's definitely something that's changed no i don't have to understand shit you're
absolutely right and what you're saying my issue with what you're saying is he's aware of it see
it's not it's not us speculating in a room when when he when when because i went and
revisited the life of pablo to see how it sounded with my new ears my my new he oh he likes her ears
and we're gonna talk about that too um well we were talking on the weekend
do you feel kanye has been trying to be accepted by white people his whole career? Oh, yeah. Fact.
Big facts.
That's a fact.
Facto.
What are people saying that's cool?
It's a fact.
I don't know.
Yeah, that's true.
Okay.
Even within Kyle's dropout,
or do you think there was a specific time he was trying?
Because I think the topics on that kyle's dropout album may not have been i'm trying to be accepted by white people
but move on in late registration and it tends to take a curve that no one really saw up until
that we have this new information i'm not giving him that that that pass nor will i give him a
trolling pass i can't look at your journey i gotta got to look at the result. And if I'm looking at the end result,
it looks like,
it looks like you used niggas for your own agenda.
And let me just say,
nothing wrong with that.
There's nothing wrong with using people for your own agenda.
And that's what him and Trump have in common.
Like I'm not angry at him him the person i'm only using him to bring up the discussion of why we allow it and we don't have to answer that
but i don't just he's producing a nas album let me tell you i'm excited about it yeah
on paper if it happens on you, I'm excited about it. Yeah, on paper, if it happens.
On paper, I'm really excited about it.
Let me just say that I don't think any of those albums
will come out on those dates.
I'm just going to say that now.
You might be right.
But wouldn't they have to?
I'm skeptical.
No.
No.
Why, you can't even make that announcement.
You can't even make that type of announcement.
Well, I guess he can.
Sure you can.
What?
He can absolutely make that announcement. Yeah, but since he's on Twitter, I don't think he's going against album dates. Yeah, I guess he can see Kanye. What? He can absolutely make that announcement.
Yeah, but since he's
on Twitter,
I don't think he's
going against album dates
that he's in on Twitter.
They're coming out.
Even if they come out
maybe a week apart
from the date he said,
these projects are coming out.
No, I'm not saying
they're not coming out.
I don't think they're coming out.
In June?
No.
No.
I don't think so.
All right, we'll see.
Well, all right,
but off of that for a second,
we know Tiana's album is done.
I mean, she's been working on that for a minute
because I, on this podcast, have said I'm waiting for it.
We could assume Pusha's album is done.
I don't think there ever was a Kid Cudi and Kanye West album.
I think that Kanye West was working on an album,
and then him and Kid Cudi got cool again,
and Kid Cudi came in and gave him all the energy like like he's done before.
And then he came up with songs that maybe didn't go with the other songs.
And then he had to split the shit up.
Yeah, that's exactly what happened.
So now Kid Cudi, he took the songs that he did with Cudi and put it out.
And that's seven songs on the album.
And now his other album is seven songs.
What other reason would there be for him to put out projects that are max seven songs especially when a few years ago he told us why it's so important
and he'd never deviate from 10 songs he did that around the my name is my name uh album because
everybody the pusher fans were beefing um so seven songs is a little is a little weird but i am going
to listen to it i mean i'm not gonna lie to y'all. I'm going to listen to it. Am I going to buy it? Fuck no. I will not. And I might listen to it
on Rory's phone. I don't know. I can't. I don't know that I'm going to stream it. I might wait
for Ice to hit the group chat with the link. I am not paying Kanye West because I see what you do
when I give you my money. And that's the way America works, people.
All the really rich people, all they do is get to the other side of the money.
They spend the money and race it and get to the other side of it before other people.
All the wealthy people, they get all the money.
Yeah, I'm not doing that with him.
He's not getting mine.
I am done.
I'm taking it back.
I'm at a crossroads.
Pusha will get my money.
Maybe.
I don't know.
Because that might go to Kanye too.
I wanted to buy a Saha album, but boy, is he a lost nigga sometimes.
The fuck is it?
Boy, that tweet was disappointing.
I'm not getting rid of Daniel Caesar yet.
That album was too fire.
Not off of the follow, my G.
It didn't worry you a little bit That Kanye was producing all these albums?
Because you get Kanye a specific sound
Every album has not sounded the same
He's had his eras, if you will quote it
What if it's a shitty era
And we end up getting five shitty albums
That sound the same?
Ain't been a shitty era yet
He's just going to convince people
That our ears are just ten years behind
You don't even know the masterpiece
That you're listening to yet
See, so now that you said that, Maul Let let's get into I Went and Revisited the Life of
Pablo again.
Where does that album rank in Kanye's discography?
The very bottom.
It's low for me.
I like the album.
Oh, so that is the consensus.
I'm not coming here with a hot take.
No, you're not.
It's a good album.
I don't think it's a bad album, but it's certainly low in his discography.
He may have one of the best discographies ever.
Yeah, his discography is low, but if somebody else's, it might be the best.
That's number one.
Oh, well, 100%.
Hey, on this podcast, if you're new, we only judge people by their work.
Them.
I'm not comparing him to other people.
When I went back and listened, that album sounded a little rushed.
It sounded like a mixtape to me.
It's all over the place.
Yeah, he took fucking designer song.
I didn't see a designer release date in May
in Good Music Month. He was the only one
that even crossed their mind.
Until you said that to me, I was like, oh, fuck, yeah.
I guess he was the only one left over.
Well, y'all remember on the podcast,
I think it was a little while ago, maybe two
weeks ago, member designer
spit a freestyle over God's plan, and I was like,
what the fuck is going on?
So, like, what's up?
So I was waiting for the announcement, but...
You thought that was the teaser?
The warmth.
For the announcement.
Rory.
A designer.
A designer's cooking something up.
A designer teaser.
That's crazy.
The biggest teaser's the trash, right?
That's Rory saying that, designer.
That's what I said.
I thought it was kind of fire
look how phony i am that's what you listen to in the crib uh so back back to kanye right
uh so back to him being calculated so he calls charlemagne and charlemagne who hangs his fucking
hat on not being industry and not having industry relationships, which I believe
him. Charlemagne gets on a plane and what does he do? He takes his fucking ass right over to Kanye
to listen to the album ahead of time and do an interview. Let me tell you something. I'd have
done the same. I was going to say, I don't think that's industry. I'd have done the exact same
thing. So I just want to point that out but this is where
it's different
this is where it's different
I would have came back with something
my problem is
I know why Kanye wanted to fly Charlamagne out
and for him to hear the album
and to kick it
so he can have an ally
pretty big ally to have in New York media and to kick it so he can have an ally.
Pretty big ally to have in New York media.
I know why they parked where they parked and took that picture for it. All of that is being calculated.
And now Charlemagne flies back, and ever since that meeting,
he has been telling us kanye tidbits but but the problem
here is charlemagne is one of our most prominent voices in media as black people
and if he's not gonna call out the fuck shit then damn
am i the only one feeling like it's just a little It's a little compromise
Wait
Don't say nothing
Charlamagne's been calling
I mean
Not Charlamagne
Kanye's been calling Ebro a whole lot
Anybody been seeing them tweets?
Yeah
I have
And I listened to Ebro's recap
Of their conversation
Somebody tell me what new information
Y'all got about Kanye
From all of the conversations he has
had with Ebro nobody answer it let me tell you none you have gotten no new information you got
the click you got the clickbait Kanye West says I love Donald Trump that is not new information
that's my point you are that is exactly my point we knew that which means that Ebro, another one of our prominent media voices, is watching this fuck shit.
And I'm not going to say he's complicit.
No, he was very vocal.
I know.
I know.
He was against it.
I guess my problem is I need more than that from Charlamagne and Ebro on this occasion.
This is years in the making.
Why we kill everybody else
and not him?
Yeah, yeah.
I can't speak on any of these guys,
so I'll let you have this.
I'm shocked.
I thought maybe Charlamagne
had said something
since these Kanye West tweets
and I just didn't see it.
I figured he would have.
Ebro, I'll stand,
Ebro definitely was vocal
about how wrong Kanye was about that.
That's why Kanye called him or was yelling in the background when he was talking to Saha.
I would have liked some new information.
I mean, I think.
For a guy that has an album coming out, I would have liked some new information if you guys are going to fucking compromise your integrity.
Because that is what's happening.
And that leads me to me.
I'm the only honest media guy there is.
I know that sounds nuts.
That sounds crazy.
I'm the only one.
I'd like support in this Kanye thing I'm talking about.
But you can't be honest no more you're
honest now you're a hater that's the new thing it's true that's been the thing for a little while
yeah like i don't i don't know when that started but like you say something that's honest and
people call you a hater like i don't get it but you know all right so let's let's let's get into
the some of the releases really quickly and and get of that. Let's shift our attention to the music that I will bootleg from Rory's phone, from Rory's 5C, soon as fucking May, June gets here.
What's the first one?
The first one is Kanye solo.
Then the next week is him, Cudi.
Next week is Push.
Next week is Tiana and his Nas album in there somewhere, right?
Actually, I think Push is first.
Push is May 25th.
Kanye is June 1st.
Kanye Cudi is June 8th.
Nas is June 15th.
Tiana Taylor is June 22nd.
I don't believe none of those dates.
I'm sorry.
I think I believe all the ones but the Nas one because that's dependent on Nas.
That one's not coming out.
That's dependent on Nas.
I got to see that one.
But Nas has been a lot more visible.
Yeah.
I got to see it.
Let me tell you this, Maul.
Let's pretend that in his brain those albums are coming out that month.
What does this say that he's not thinking about June 25th at all?
Isn't that Drake's date?
I keep saying, did Drake put out an official?
He just said June 2018.
He didn't give a date them shits all might be
five songs
let's be clear about that
Pusha cannot put out
a project that's five songs
and Teyana Taylor
won't put out a project
that's five songs
not with her show
with Amon on VH1
it's not gonna happen
right now
the people that can
afford to will
i.e. Kanye and Cudi
which was
Nas Nas could put out seven songs and we'll be happy and we'll be happy the people that can afford to will, i.e. Kanye and Cudi. Cudi. Nas.
Nas.
Nas can put out seven songs and we'll be happy.
And we'll be happy with Kanye's seven songs.
Right.
What was we talking about before this?
Drake.
Where does he fall in? Oh, yeah.
I was just confused about that because it's like,
damn, all right, we got Cole.
Cole got his numbers and dipped.
Smart.
Yeah.
Smart.
Before everything implodes.
Let me just get this off.
Hey, y'all, this Friday, I don't know what these niggas is on,
but y'all going to get this work.
So that was hard how he did that.
But normally people like to stay away from Drake when he drops.
And with the way he about to drop, you see he about to do something stupid.
You just know he is.
So I'm shocked that Kanye did that.'s his his drop in that release uh june first come on yeah come on
june first yeah that's right
we have to call now with niggas ducking the smoke.
Yeah, well, I said on this podcast,
I wanted Drake and Kanye to go head-to-head
on the same day in June.
Nah, Drake will outsell Kanye.
I agree that he will.
He don't fucking...
He's going to have to...
Yeah, Drake's not down with Candace Owens.
Drake would never...
He's giving out money and shit.
Yeah, Drake is on the top.
Hey, Drake is still winning the Nice Guy Awards. Let me just say, he's still up. He's giving out money and shit Yeah Drake is on the top Hey Drake is still winning
The nice guy awards
Let me just say
He's still up
He's back
Yeah he's up
He took some time off
But he's back
Yeah so that's all I had to say
About that
About
That month of June
Wait wait wait
No it's not
No it's not
Something else is coming
Who else big is coming
Pause
And this makes for June
You know what?
We said it was going to be a wild summer.
We did.
Yeah.
Oh, Remy.
Remy.
More.
We're not fighting about Remy because I don't really want to talk about Remy.
All I'm saying is she has a new song coming, and this is the one.
Now, then we could fight.
I was just telling Sin this.
The Mint Condition record that last week when you asked who
still listening to Remy and Rory said all the way up as soon as he said that I was going to say the
mint condition record but when everyone really laughed at him I didn't say anything that's what
Chris Brown on it right yeah yeah but that's the record that they put out and I like mint condition
so I like that record but clearly it didn't work really
but it's summertime now a bookie's on this record that says that this is the one that
we're leaning on she's looking sexy in the pictures i'm just telling y'all what i've noticed
that's label stuff that's label stuff she looks a little different like something got done again
same with nikki nikki looks a little different. Like something got done again. Same with Nikki.
Nikki looks a little different.
Something got done again.
So that after this record,
then you could talk your shit.
We can have the Remy Ma fight all day long after this one,
if this don't work,
because she might be in a little bit of trouble if this don't work.
And that's all I'm going to say.
That's it.
We ain't got to fight about it.
I know your stance.
I'm chilling.
I want to hear it.
I'm anxious to hear the record.
I don't know if I want to hear Remy and A Boogie.
I don't be rushing A Boogie records
because I'm old. It's a Bronx record.
I like A Boogie.
Rory be trying to sneak and be from the Bronx sometimes.
I'm going to keep it a buck.
He's way too big on A Boogie
to be from
Queens, Jersey City.
I like A Boogie. I think he's nice. I think his album is really good. I think he's progressive for New York because i like i like a boogie i think he's nice i think his album was really good
i think he's progressive for new york because he still sounds like a new yorker but sounds
like the climate now i think a boogie's all right man all right i'm forced to address uh
a good friend of mine a good peter rosenberg uh because i want to read a tweet to you guys
um that i saw when I was being nosy.
Someone tweeted,
oh, because I started my whole round of applause for me, man.
Hey, thanks, guys.
Thanks, guys.
Man, you guys are awesome.
Appreciate it, man.
We're not applauding. Yes, y'all are. There's a video. Turn it up now. thanks guys man you guys look awesome appreciate it man
we're not applauding
yes y'all are
there's a video
turn it up now
over the
weekend
I released
episode one
and two
of my new series
The Pull Up
where I invite
a bunch of niggas
that I would never
have brunch with
over for brunch
not really a brunch guy anyway.
That's Rory's thing.
But, and I want to thank everybody out there for really,
really supporting me throughout this journey.
Those numbers are great.
And that's all I have to say because I'm not really good at thanking people
for things.
But man, man, hit the round of applause again come on come on you guys deserve
it this one's for you guys this is for us huh now with that said i read a tweet right somebody
somebody was bigging me up so i saw it because i always see those and they said, I have to say this,
at Joe Button has created three shows that are hits
because this pull-up show is a smash.
Now they're referring to Everyday Struggle,
the podcast, and the pull-up.
Then someone says, keep it 100.
He also created that late night show
Peter Rosenberg is on on but we won't speak
about that right that's when i would have walked away from my phone i would have left it alone
but then you're you but here comes peter rosenberg
actually man this is a story that will go down in the love and hip-hop history books
but what is the truth what is a story that will go down in the love and hip-hop history books but what is the truth
what is a lie peter rosenberg replies to almighty loh and says in caps lol
let me just tell everybody out there You can't stop at LOL, man
Let me tell everybody out there
I'm telling you that when you start with a LOL in caps
You're not laughing
It has the reverse effect
You're not laughing, my G
You're not laughing You have the reverse effect right you're not laughing my g right you're
not laughing you have a the straightest of faces on right but okay so he said lol in caps then he
said and i wouldn't i would have never guessed he was going there you know how long this show has
been in the works question mark hello he didn't answer that of course course not. I actually created Joe's podcast, but let's not talk about that.
Don DeMarco.
A lot of people not talking about that.
Let me hit.
Let me turn down the gunshot for the people at work, but let me hit the gunshot.
He lied.
Y'all niggas worship him.
Lied.
I'm about to get in my bag.
Y'all pass me my bag?
Never ever said nothing about him.
It's man shit in my bag, too.
You don't even know what I'm coming out the bag with.
That's why the bag is such a dope sling.
Because once a nigga about to go in his bag,
like, what's in there?
Nobody wants to tell the truth.
No one.
Not a fucking soul.
Just me.
All right.
This is what I say here because I will not,
I will not refute what he's saying.
But what I will say is
I think that some,
I think my definition of create is different from some corporate white people.
Well, you know, that's what I learned from that.
And Peter Rosenberg's head, Rory, can probably help me out in this conversation.
I am positive that he believes that probably. Yeah.
So maybe you don't know
what the word create means.
That's possible.
Dog just won't shut the fuck up.
Son of Sam shit going on.
Well, the birds
are a part of the podcast.
Every week they're like,
yo, anybody hear the birds?
I'm like, damn,
they don't.
Birds and story.
Recording in nature and shit.
Fucking project birds.
What was I saying just now?
That Rosenberg actually believes
that he started the podcast.
Rory, do you think that he actually believes that?
Tell the truth.
Yes, right?
For the people that don't know what went on,
a million years ago,
I said to myself,
I want to do a podcast.
I then called Marissa,
who said, who said, yes, let's fucking, I'm down I want to do a podcast. I then called Marissa who said, uh,
who said, yes, let's fucking, I'm down. Let's do a podcast. Funny. Peter Rosenberg said he's about
to start a network. I then went to go sit with Peter Rosenberg. He gave me all these grandiose
ideas of things that he could do the same way people, executives and people in his business
do when they court you. So we started, we did about six, seven, eight, nine, 10 episodes.
And I noticed
Peter Rosenberg
did absolutely nothing.
I then distanced myself
and my podcast
far away from Peter Rosenberg.
Now,
is that him creating this podcast?
No, I wouldn't say that.
So why is he on?
Pete, Pete, Pete, Pete, Pete.
And that is my problem
with fucking Pete.
So now Pete,
let me help you out
because I love you and you're a friend of mine.
This podcast, I'm gonna spend a lot of time helping people I love. You happen to be one of those people.
Peter Rosenberg, don't tell people that your late night show has been in the works for a million years because that is not true.
At the start of everyday struggle with Noah Beverly and myself was, oh no, Noah Calloway, whatever Noah's name is.
When him and I were sitting around throwing names back and forth for co-hosts, your name was one of them.
You're good friends with Noah.
I expect the white Jewish people to be good friends with each other.
That's not a shock there.
But that tells me it was no fucking late night show being thought of when I stepped foot in Complex.
That's what that tells me because I obsess over things, right?
So that's what that tells me because i obsess over over things right so that's one it also tells me that shortly after i started and i started funneling all these amazing ideas in the building
you probably weren't a thought of then so i'm probably talking about information that preceded
you peter rosenberg so you shouldn't take offense when people are bigging up me
you really shouldn't especially if you're going to turn around and say that you started my podcast
which means that you knew i was ill
you knew some ill shit was on the way
take a minute to big myself up here and that's my that's my other problem when i think about
these corporate companies let me just go on a quick rant again so let's say let's pretend that
i'm right and i had this amazing idea and that idea turned into peter rosenberg on his late night show ASAP Rocky and Terry Crews were have been the guests there Peter
Rosenberg's late-night show that's part of your little sick, twisted genius. Because you don't really say nothing, but it says so much.
It's just crazy shit going on out here, man.
Peter Rosenberg's open late night shows numbers are not the sexiest.
Sexy is a good word.
I'm not sure that complex cares
peter rosenberg show and i'm telling this to all the up-and-coming content creators out there this
is my message to you guys peter rosenberg show because i'm not gonna ever come i wouldn't
wouldn't dare call it a failure even though the numbers would say it's a failure.
Peter Rosenberg's late night show had ad and sponsor dollars before it ever aired.
With failing numbers.
That was part of my everyday struggle beef over at complex i have a lot of integrity in the content
and sometimes i'm not willing to sacrifice that over corporate matters
so it did hit a little mushy button inside of me someone was cutting onions
when i just invited niggas to the crib for brunch
and niggas
hit half a million in 24 hours.
48 hours.
48 hours, man. Hit a round of
applause button for it. And you know, y'all know I'm not
a numbers guy, but Maul says I am.
I got a numbers guy
with me. Ian's a numbers guy. A nigga calls me every
morning with numbers. And you relate
the numbers. Only when they support my arguments. That's a numbers guy. Nigga calls me every morning with numbers. And you relate the numbers. Only when they support my arguments.
That's what numbers are for.
Only
when they support your arguments. That's why I don't pay attention
to numbers because all they do is support
whatever someone's argument is.
Especially in the smart information
era. You go on Google and
find anything to support what you got to say.
True. Let me finish
my Rosenberg rant because when i
was thinking about that that led me to how much i love peter rosenberg and his sports commentary
and his wrestling commentary i love it he sounds very much in his element he sounds very comfortable
and he has very strong perspectives and opinions outside of hip-hop only Only in hip-hop do I feel like
those opinions aren't really his.
I meant to hit the gunshot.
This has a different effect.
Applause and gunshots.
We're shooting at the crowd.
Yeah, yeah.
In hip-hop, Pete can come off,
come off as the white guy who just is sticking to the backpacker opinion.
And sometimes he deviates from that, like when he wants to promote little fuckity fuck, whatever his name was.
So, Pete, I'm going to say this to you in friendly competition.
Leave my name out of your tweets because I'm coming.
Gunshot Now
With that said
Cole
What you thought?
Know what I learned about Cole?
He looks like Savion Glover
He does look like Savion Glover
But we knew that already
Cole
You was saying that last week
Like it was a ground break
We knew that
I've been saying
Why Cole is on his
Homeless swag
Like Couture
Homeless swag
Homeless chic
Yeah I want to start
Fucking acknowledging
Rory's funny joke
That was funny man
Cole might be the Most difficult man To critique in hip hop Yeah, I want to start fucking acknowledging Rory's funny joke. That was funny, man.
Cole might be the most difficult man to critique in hip hop.
He is.
Without a doubt.
Last time Cole came out, I purposely avoided critiquing it.
One, I didn't like it, so I didn't want to critique it.
And by the time I learned that I didn't like it, it was late in the game. So I didn't feel like I needed to come back months later and fucking talk bad about another black man who maybe just had a quick outing or a bad outing, in my opinion.
Cole fans will never say that because Cole fans like that project.
But that's part of the reason why Cole is so hard to judge because of Cole fans.
Cole fans are brutal.
I hate Cole fans.
That's where he gets a lot of his hate because it's just fun to antagonize Cole fans.
It has nothing to do with Cole.
It has to do with his fans.
So my analysis of Cole and his album led me to this really weird epiphany.
led me to this really weird epiphany.
Cole,
and this album particularly,
is reminding me,
I find a lot of things,
a lot of similarities
between him and I
that I never really
paid attention to.
So, let's talk about it.
Yeah, let's hear it.
Parks hit the group chat
and said,
Cole could probably benefit from an executive producer or two.
Or a beat from other people or a feature or two.
Something like that?
Yeah, something along those lines.
I don't want to fuck your point up, so you say it because I agree.
I think features for one.
I mean, I don't think he's...
Damn, I don't want to get killed by Cole fans.
He sings a lot.
I'm not mad at him for singing.
Yeah, me either, but... Cole fans. He sings a lot. I'm not mad at him for singing. Yeah, me either.
I think that breaks up a lot.
I don't want to call it rappity rap because Cole is not lyrical miracle shit.
It's just good rapping.
Yeah, but it's his voice singing with his voice rapping over his production a lot of times.
It's a lot.
It's a lot of Cole.
So it's a lot of him.
Which people will tell you if you're trying to make a hit record, you need a breakup between the verse and the hook with a different tone or a different voice.
That's why features always are usually hit records where you throw a chick on the hook or you throw a singer on the hook because it breaks up and makes the song sound better.
So when Cole says, or not Cole because he doesn't say it, but when other people say that Forest Hills Drive was the first album to ever go five times platinum with no features, that's great because boy, that album is great.
But other than that, I would stop saying that. Like I would stop, like he's saying now, no features that's great because boy that album is great but other than
that i would stop saying that like i would stop like he's saying now no features or something i
would stop saying that me personally but in trying to say that about him i just glossed over my career
and that same thing is true in my career i could have used a feature or two and i could have used
an executive producer or two and i could have used some other input inside of the studio outside of my own brain or outside of our brain trust.
You know what I'm saying?
So I was like, yeah, let me chill there.
I can I get it.
I understand that part.
Right.
Then it hit me as I'm listening to the album.
I'm like, damn,
this sounds like everyday struggle.
Elaborate.
The whole,
everything he talked about on the album in terms of,
because there's so many different nuances in this album where he's finding
different ways to address the new generation.
Right.
All over this album.
Similar to everyday struggle.
Okay. Right. And I only am going Similar to Everyday Struggle. Okay.
Right?
And I only am going to stand firm in that when at the end he takes the love and hip-hop jab, which I do think was a jab at me, which I do think...
It wasn't.
It was not a jab at you.
But I think it was.
And let me finish my point before y'all laugh at me, because I'll forget it.
He was explaining the career
trajectory of shit right right so the new fuckity fucks much like i attempted to do with yadi
right in a different way um but if i'm listening to the album thinking that a lot of the content
is everyday struggle-ish and then you get to the end in that particular record which reminds me of one particular interview right and then i'm thanked to j cole j cole has said that before he's already expressed his his
sentiments about people that appear on love and hip-hop he's done it at least two times recent
and when i say recent i mean last two projects right so that leads me to why would you say it
a third time unless there was a reason to say it because
i do believe you're a great mc great mcs are like great spades players great spades players don't
play a card without having a reason for playing that card same exact thing so that's what led me
there it could be a loose assumption i'm not standing firm in it but in my brain that's
happened that's happened i think that's just a metaphor for
rap careers that maybe
didn't work and now they're doing something they may
not want to do
they didn't have another option I think it's just a metaphor for that
I don't think that was the case for you or for other people
but in the scheme of the 8 years
that Love & Hip Hop has been around
that would have been my response to that
J. Coach should stop saying that
it's not a diss anymore.
It's gotten worse.
There was a peak of love and hip hop, which I think was around your era.
Now you won't.
No, it's not there anymore because now they don't even have people that these type of people would address on there with the exception of Remy.
They wouldn't even address him as opposed to a jim
jones yeah saigon uh i could there's a bunch of them that have been there that's what i mean i
guess when i say that right no i just think it was a metaphor for cole to get everyone to understand
when rappers run out of options this may be what they have to do i don't think it was a specific
love and hip-hop shot i think it was just a metaphor for what you have to do if you can't rap.
I don't want to smoke with Cole anyway,
so it's cool.
What did y'all think?
What do y'all think about
the Count It Up record?
And I only asked
because when I first heard that record,
I was saying,
what the fuck is Cole doing?
That definitely didn't sound
like a typical J. Cole.
And then I had to listen to it
a few more times
before I understood
that he was indeed
trying to do something.
That's the other thing that reminded me of me Cole fans give Cole the pass of knowing that
he is trying to do something before they figure out what he's trying to do right Cole has afforded
himself the benefit of the doubt that most people have not and I think that's why his fans become
very annoying to other people because other people are not hearing it through those same ears much like joe budden fans have annoyed people my entire career about
joe budden because they heard something in me that the casual listener just did not hear
okay see i think budden fans are cool you see how i piece that together yeah i think you're right
there um add that to to Cole's entire introverted style
and how I do think that he's socially aware
along with some other things.
It just reminded me of me.
Even the knock on him,
that he puts people to sleep in his voice.
I was never the biggest fan of my rap voice either.
I think that was a big detriment for me.
One week I was coming in here to ask y'all,
y'all top five rap voices,
because I think that's such an underrated topic in hip hop
It's very important
Rap voices
Yeah it's very important
Isn't that important?
Hell yeah
Super important
Can you think of a great MC that doesn't have a good voice?
Me
I think people would argue that you have a good rap voice
I think you have a good voice
I don't it's trash
My voice trash I have a lisp
I can't enunciate properly.
In my head,
I rap with so much diction
and so proper,
but when I start rapping,
my voice,
I just can't.
I can't do it.
That's why I hate it.
Everyone hates their own voice,
though.
No, but some niggas...
I hate my own voice.
No, but your voice is trash
for real, though.
My voice is trash.
I hate my fucking voice.
But some niggas could get away
with a trash verse
because their voice is dope.
Or some niggas' verse is just... Some trash verse because their voice is dope or some niggas versus just some people some people play to their voice like i like young thug simply
of his cadence and his voice and how that sounds i don't particularly care what he has to say
because it sounds so great when he says it yeah he's very passionate with his whatever he's saying
real quick speaking of young thug i really like that young thug record with nikki minaj but i
don't see anyone talking about it.
I didn't hear it.
Oh, yeah, I'm not even sure what you're talking about.
It's a Nicki record or a Thug record?
It's a Young Thug record.
Okay.
Wow.
See, that's kind of my point.
Let me play it.
Y'all talk to each other.
Damn, I'm shocked.
Well, do we want to have the actual conversation who your top five favorite rap voices are?
Q-Tip got to be like top five.
Q-Tip's up there.
Scarface is up there. Scarface is up there.
Scarface for sure.
Kiss is up there.
Grand Poobah.
Ross.
Yeah.
Big.
Ghostface for me.
All right.
Yeah, Ghost is definitely up there.
This is Young Thug, Anybody featuring Nicki Minaj.
This was part of that rollout.
I never killed anybody, but I got something to do with that body. Nicki Minaj. This was part of that rollout.
He's not on Universal, right?
I feel like they'll take this shit down. I had me some facts in the morning I had me a pack by the morning I had me some facts by the morning I had a suspect by the morning
I got on a meet on the morning
The rats kicked me up on the podium
I had a pack in my shoulder
You gotta believe you
That shit sound hard.
That shit is hard.
He was about to go there.
He came in on that shit.
Yeah, he was about to go there.
That's why I was shocked that I don't see people talking about that record and Nicky Boddy
the third verse so it's confusing
to me that
as cool as Young Thug is to the
kids nobody is talking about
this song I wonder what the disconnect with him
is I thought he would be super duper
duper star by now
well there was that whole
rich gang shit so so that that took
a minute um he puts out albums kind of sloppily it's like it's about to come out all right i just
threw it out or here's a date it doesn't come out like he's never really put energy behind putting
out an actual project i feel like his. His career probably lacks structure. Yeah, that's probably the word I was looking for.
Because the talent is there and the records are there,
but it seems a little inconsistent.
You know what it is, too?
He doesn't really do a lot of press interviews.
He's not that type of person.
Yeah, but we're in a time where who does a lot of press interviews?
Well, he does.
Jake Cole doesn't do shit.
Yeah, but he does.
I mean, but Cole's a different.
But Thug would be at that same spot if he had been consistent ever since that ti record came
out ain't about the money if he had been consistent since that record he might be in a position where
maybe it don't matter today like today he's i feel like he's still going through the the new act
routine of seeing how records work when he puts them out.
He should be past that.
Future doesn't really do press particularly.
Nah, he don't do no damn press.
That's my thing. Future doesn't need to do press.
He's at that point.
I think Thug is that type of artist
too though. I think he's that talented
to where, but he just needs to do
just a little more of
selling himself a little bit to the people. Because people like him, but they just needs to do just a little more of of selling himself a little bit to the
people because people like him but they just kind of like still on the fence a little bit okay but
i think he's super like i think he's one of the best artists out of the kids that do that style
of music he's my favorite like he's definitely like that guy well that was that was leading to
my next question and then i want to u-turn and get back to this Cole.
Did all the Lil's kind of get rid of that wave of music, low-key and nobody talking about it?
Like earlier, we laughed at Desiigner, but that was a wave.
Young Thug, it's a wave.
Future was a wave.
There was a bunch of people in that wave, and now with all the Lil'silling it seems like that no no it's still there but it doesn't seem like the dominant wave that it did and only three years
ago right that was only three years ago all right that's it that's that's all i had you know how
quickly waves go in hip-hop it's not far from what's happened in the past as far as what's
popular not what's gonna
last i didn't think that wave would be gone so soon but yeah i feel you still somewhat there
um so cole cole is projected to do over 400 man cole is amazing that's the other reason cole
reminds me of me because i feel like cole spends five dollars on albums i mean he does a lot of
the beats himself i don't feel like he spends any money on albums
and he just puts them out so there's no
real money in marketing and promo.
His videos be fire, though.
He's shooting them.
Oh, yeah, he does directly.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
This nigga is doing everything,
which I commend him for.
I commend him for it because
in my new content creator career shit that I'm doing, what I'm not mad at that. I commend him for it because in my new content creator career shit
that I'm doing, what I'm learning is that there's so much I have to learn.
Like, as a rapper, like, I know a lot about rap music,
but when you try to venture out into these other fields,
there's so many little, little things that you have to learn
if you want to do it yourself and be an entrepreneur
and a self-employed real businessman.
So I commend Cole for sitting down learning how to make a beat, for learning how to shoot a video, for even learning the technical terms that come along with all this shit.
Yeah.
Which I can give credit to Jim Jones, like I did last week, of being one of the first rappers to really sit there and try to do everything himself or learn somewhat how to do it.
Well, there was a lot of people
prior to them
that were self-producing.
Being so vocal about doing it.
Like, yo, I'm doing my own sessions.
I'm directing this video.
Yeah.
This is also the thing about...
But is that a detriment to Cole
with that?
Maybe.
Because back to what Parks' point,
I would like to hear Cole
on some other beats.
I understand his artistry and that his albums are a cohesive thing
and he wants that sound.
I get it.
He's great at it.
For me, I'm not even mad at the production,
even though a lot of people think that it's dull sometimes.
I just wish that he would have different vocalists,
even if they're not stars.
You don't necessarily need Chris Brown,
but some different vocal just to break up.
Because even though I do think he's a good singer
and I think he's a fucking amazing rapper, don't it's a lot of coal audibly the beats you know that's not his voice so
it's a little it breaks it up but uh i wish that he would occasionally bring in some vocalists
background vocalists something yeah no i agree i'm with you yeah but i mean i like the album
yeah me too he definitely switched up his flows
I don't know if that was the point
To try to
Again getting back to the kids
It sounded like it
To listen
There were some Drake flows on there
There was some new modern
I don't know who started that
It just sounded like
He was just trying to show that
He could do it
He can do that
And still be
You know
Still be saying something
You know what I mean
Like he can give you that cadence
He can give you that vibe
That feel
But he's still saying something though like he's still saying some dope shit
cole is a better that's my that's one of my issues with cole cole is a much better mc probably than
he is a producer i think even he would say that so if so if you get with some niggas who are at your level in their craft, they will just bring out something better in you.
That's what I'll say.
But I said that years ago when Wayne was, you know, when it was all in-house production with Manny Fresh and all of that.
I said years ago, as soon as Wayne starts getting outside production, he's going to become a mega star.
And he did that.
And he did that and he did that
and that's what happened
and he got away from
the Manny Fresh sound
that camp
and started getting
production from
outside producers
and became a megastar
I mean but even then
this is our opinion
clearly it's working
cause Cole's numbers
show that that works
right
yeah exactly
no features
me doing the beats
that shit works
Manny Fresh worked
by the way that motherfucker is manny fresh worked by the
way that motherfucker is underrated amazing 100 100 shout out to manny fresh and one of the most
humble guys you'll ever meet shout out to him but i mean what we didn't really dive right into the
1985 shit with which joe we talked you thought that was a diss or not a diss to who that well
that's the thing well clearly homeboy thought it was a diss it not a diss? To who? Well, that's the thing.
Well, clearly Homeboy thought it was a diss.
It was a diss to somebody.
J. Cole and Pump.
I don't know if it was a diss.
Is it Pump, J. Cole and Pump or J. Cole and Zan?
One of those. Well, people would say Pump because I guess Pump had some campaign where it was fuck J. Cole.
And Cole was like, I don't even know who you are.
That's my other thing with Cole.
Cole should not be dissing Lil Pump.
I don't think it was a diss.
I think he was explaining To all these kids
That use him as the escape code
Of saying we don't like
That lyrical shit
Like this is what happens
He should have found a way
To talk to Lil Pump
Without letting all the
Lil Pump fans know
He's talking to Lil Pump
He's just greater than that
Nah that fucking song is fire though
No the song is fire
It was needed
No the song it is fire
I don't know
I just want to know
What are these
Like do these Lil
Not want to make music
In the latter part of their career?
Do they not want to be relevant in five years?
I want J. Cole to ignore a little bit.
I don't understand it.
That's the thing.
They don't want to be relevant in five years.
Cole is like, what, 31?
You don't want to be making music when you're 31?
These kids just want to be alive at 31.
They're doing so much drug.
Cole's like 33, 34.
Okay.
You still not want to make music at that age?
And some of these kids are like 25.
You know how quick five years passes?
That would be my other criticism.
You're about to be an old head in five years.
That would be my other criticism.
I wish that he would make music.
I feel like he really, and he does it really well,
but he targets college-age kids a lot.
That's his bread and butter.
Yeah.
I wish he would grow a little bit.
He makes dorm music.
Yeah.
No, he does strategic marketing in a backpacker way.
He does.
For sure.
I mean, there's nothing wrong with it.
Not at all.
No, no, no.
He targeted college kids.
Those college kids are now graduated in the nine to five shit.
Yeah, but he kept talking to them, too.
I'm not mad at him for targeting them.
Maybe he got left back.
Maybe more. I'm just saying. I never looked at it that way my nigga thank you y'all never seen things from that angle right maybe i left back um are we closing cole i want people to think
we're talking bad about it no it's a good album because we're not i thoroughly enjoy it can't
talk bad about it yes it's a good album we enjoy the album but it's our job to fucking try to get deeper
so that's what we did
no it's really good
that was a rather short
J. Cole
the thing is
they would be
shitting on Cole
how can you
that's because
they're so defensive
about J. Cole
I was gonna say
that was a real short
that was a rather
brief Cole synopsis
but you know what it is
for a nigga to drop
once a blue moon.
Yeah, but that's how it is now.
You drop a project,
we live with it for two weeks,
and then it's like,
who's next?
Right.
That's just what it is now.
I mean, he got his,
he did his numbers,
you know what I mean?
It was received well.
He's going to tour his asshole.
Yeah, he's going to tour,
he's going to give us
another HBO special,
and you know,
he's going to continue
looking like Savion,
that's all. Damn, do I want the other HBO special and you know he's going to continue looking like Savion that's all
damn do I want
the other HBO special
I don't know
if I want the other
HBO special
if he's directing it
it looks like his videos
the Forest Hills drive-on
was dope
it was
but if he give me
another HBO special
he got to show me
what the neighbors
think of him now
I'm going to interview
the neighbors
and see
I'm saying surely
he's went and
introduced himself
had to get a release form
yeah
this whole last rollout
was about the neighbors
yeah
and what they were thinking about him
I hope they fix that
I hope they don't think that anymore
about J. Cole
how do they think Jermaine
is selling dope
you can tell he got some wild neighbors
the whole SWAT team went in there
I would have looked over there and thought something totally different than,
that's the trap.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, not at all.
All right, so now we have to talk about some news that is close to my heart.
Dunkin' Donuts is closing?
What do you think? Dunkin' Donuts what closing? What are you saying?
Dunkin' Donuts what?
Is closing?
Never that.
We're not them other niggas.
Newport's to the recall?
We're not them other niggas.
Dunkin' Donuts don't close for race reparations, my nigga.
They know what it is.
I mean, the gunshot for Dunkin' Donuts.
All right.
Dunkin' Donuts.
And let me apologize to the people listening in their vehicle that the gunshots are scaring people at the red lights.
That's my bad.
But man, this shit is addictive when you get this little soundboard thing.
So Crooked Eye has made a major announcement, major announcement, major, major announcement alert.
That he is no longer in
the collective slaughterhouse.
Yeah, I saw that.
That's the music you pick?
I wanted an awe,
but it's not in here.
So, that's what you get.
Aw.
What do you guys think?
Come on, Parks.
I mean, you know.
Slaughterhouse isn't making music currently.
Hey, that's my problem.
Yo, when you mention fucking Slaughterhouse to niggas that is actually in Slaughterhouse or involved with Slaughterhouse, they just start stuttering.
I didn't stutter.
Yes, you did.
We're recording.
This is, this is, all right, so let me, let me, let me We're recording This is Alright so let me
Let me
Let me
Let me
Let me
Let me talk
No you did not
You stuttered
This is why
This is why I don't put
Too much weight
Into the Crooked Eye announcement
Hold on
But before you do that
He said
Wait let's play the announcement
Roy get the announcement
Yeah he said
Y'all not rapping
Royce just put out
Music
Royce is doing everything Except rapping Joelce just put out music. Royce is doing everything
except rapping. Joel's putting
out music. I mean,
you're the only one that's not actively
rapping. So,
I didn't understand that, but, you know.
I think he meant that we are not
rapping as a collective. Oh, okay.
Gotcha. As a group. Gotcha.
And that's the part that's
confusing. Because how could you be retiring then?
If you're retiring
and then you go on to say
don't play it.
If you're retiring
and then you go on to say
yeah, Sober Crook loves to rap
and they're not rapping
so I'm out.
I love them.
There's no beef
but I'm out.
I heard that and said, so does that mean that when the group starts rapping, you're rapping too?
Because that's what it sounds like.
And if that's the case, then you didn't leave.
And if that's the case, then what are we announcing?
But he didn't retire.
He said he left the group.
He said I'm no longer in the group
he's not gonna stop rapping okay okay all right he's saying he's no longer in the group because
the group is not rapping but if the group raps again he sounds like he wants to rap with the
group which means you didn't retire so it's confusing so this announcement was just him saying
i don't know what the announcement is about i'll be honest with you but one day i'm
gonna call crook and try to get to the bottom of it i don't know what the announcement was about
i'm retired so it's like if the group wanted to rap would you rap this is i think they all
want to rap they're all rapping this is this is the problem and this is my beef with crooked's
announcement this is my beef with joel
and royce responding to the crook announcement with yo i support you and yo you're my brother
for life this is my this is my problem i think everybody involved meaning all slaughterhouse
members and all shady members they all know how I feel.
I have been pretty vocal in how I feel regarding the group since 2010.
So I know why I am not addressing
all things Slaughterhouse related,
because my perspective is my perspective.
It might not be shared with the guys.
I didn't talk to them about it,
but they know my perspective.
Which is what?
Which is at almost 38 years old and my time being my inventory,
I cannot do anything where bad business is involved.
Okay.
Where I am in my career today, Parks, to answer your question is,
Slaughterhouse, something that I created or co-created,
would be the perfect conglomerate
to release music right now because i would have to go in and do a fourth of the work
right and we work fast yeah so in this age of independence want me to tell you how much money
i think slaughterhouse would make if we were able to put out three to four projects a year on empire i have a good idea me too it's a different conversation right if we actually got involved
in the streaming game if we never deviated from our brand i've been saying this since 2010 i've
been trying to rectify this since 2010 unfortunately some other people want to do nothing but rap.
In
retirement, you should clearly
see Joe is about more than just rapping.
I've passed that point in my career
where I can just rap. I can't. We live
in New York. You know how much it costs to live in New York?
I do. It's expensive.
It is.
And this is my other beef. My beef was
never with my brothers. slaughterhouse brothers crook
joel and royce because the four of us will always drop everything we're doing to go do a slaughterhouse
album yeah i've seen it we've done it the album that we have that we can't release that's what
we did that was a very pivotal time for all members we was going through shit in our lives we dropped everything to do that album that album never came out no one was
affected but the artists but us i had to go reroute everything so did rory so did joelle
so did crook and here we are all of these years later. None of the fans have been given a proper explanation as to why.
None of them. Let's talk about it. I have no I base my entire career off being my version of honest.
Right. So if we're ever going to have an honest slaughterhouse conversation, I'm down to have it.
But until then, I won't talk about it
because nothing i have to say is great want to make slaughterhouse music get us off the label
get me get the get the group off of shady records we make music rather quickly i bet you we'll have
music i bet you people will be incentivized to make music and I bet you the morale will be rather high.
Now that speaks nothing about Shady and their level of support or what they did for us.
I'm just saying the difference in thinking between me and maybe some other people.
I've always been super independent in my thinking.
I can't go do music for free.
And not be paid at my value. That's the other part about being in a group
it's four people the pie is split four ways so it's a passion project for all of us
once it stops being fun
what do you want me to do?
I hear you
You know what Roy's going to do?
He's going to get with Preen
And put out crack
He's going to get with whoever
And put out some crack
Like Maul said
Joel is rapping still
And I hear he's engaged
Congratulations to Joel
I made the round of applause
I didn't know that
Oh congrats
I didn't know that either
But I read that
So congratulations to Joel
And
Crook who can rap in his sleep But that's part of the problem congratulations to Joel. And Crook, who can rap in his sleep, but that's part of the problem.
Crook is such a dope rapper that he can rap in his sleep.
Maybe the business part of it is not as important to him.
I think he's a good businessman, but I think...
You have been there for all of the Slaughterhouse stuff, and I'll leave it there.
I mean, Crook is an independent musician as well.
Which is why I don't understand his beef with me.
Because Crooked Eye is an independent guy like me.
So tell me how another independent thinker
has a problem with my independent thinking.
Especially when you are doing
the exact same thing I'm doing.
Somebody would have to explain it to me.
I love Crook,
and I support his decision-making.
But you got it.
I need help with that one.
I'm not all,
I'm not like everybody else
is going to ignore this shit
because nobody wants to talk about it.
But I still think that Slaughterhouse is a fucking seven-figure creation. I'm not like everybody else is going to ignore the shit because nobody wants to talk about it. But I still think that Slaughterhouse is a fucking
seven figure
creation. I agree. I just think
we haven't gotten to it yet. I mean Shady's got
a free glass house man. Free glass
house. No they don't. No they don't.
Free the group. Keep glass
house free the group.
Put glass house out and recoup whatever
money you have spent
and let's wash our hands.
Royce will still have his affiliations.
Everybody else will be free to do what they want to do.
And if the group wants to do an album, then we'll do it.
I bet you we'll want to.
I bet you we'll want to.
It changes things.
I'm just mad that nobody has gotten an explanation.
Everybody just keep beating around the bush.
And y'all know I'm honest. Y'all know around the bush. And y'all know I'm honest.
Y'all know I'm honest.
So y'all know I'm going to give it up.
But I'm not giving it up right now because I'm not.
But that's how I feel about that.
Rest in peace, slaughterhouse, man.
More.
It's not rest in peace, slaughterhouse.
For now.
It's not for now.
Are you rest in peace for now?
Rest in peace, slaughterhouse.
Are you dead, Kaya?
It's not rest in peace for now
for now
it's great
and that's that
what else is really
really important
let me look at my phone
good music
leads inside
oh shit
the Waffle House shooting
you in the Waffle House
see that could
you could have been in there Joe
I'd have tackled money
same way homeboy did
you fucking come in here
shooting while I'm dead in the middle of grits and a waffle you getting the fuck out same way homeboy did you fucking come in here shooting while I'm dead
in the middle of grits
and a waffle
you getting the fuck
out of here homeboy
you got him
I hate to be that guy
that says none of the
national media
is covering how
the unarmed black guy
tackled the white guy
with the AR-15 again
firing at innocent people
but I won't
I won't
there's no point
doesn't go with their narrative
I just don't know why you would want to shoot up a waffle house at innocent people. But I won't. I won't. There's no point. Doesn't go with their narrative. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just don't know
why you would want to
shoot up a Waffle House.
Word.
First of all,
them niggas already look like
they got the hammer in there.
So why would you go in there
thinking that's the place to be?
Oh, shit.
Place to be
since I'm on my
slaughterhouse rant.
Now, hard I argued
for slaughterhouse
to not be paired
with Pooh Beer
to come up with
Place to Be.
Pooh Beer?
What?
Lost me.
Pooh Beer is a writer.
Oh.
Pooh Beer writes hits.
Oh, okay.
Pooh Beer wrote the record
Incredible Place to Be
that was on the
Slaughterhouse album.
Mm-hmm.
That's it.
Come on, Roy.
Stop causing feedback.
All right.
On the TV really quick
before I get to sports.
So Netflix is canceling
seven seconds forever.
It's gone.
It's done.
They shot some dope shit
in Jersey City,
got me all riled up
thinking they were paying attention
to fucking social matters.
And they said,
what was that?
My computer.
Oh.
And they got rid of it.
No more seven seconds.
I'm probably the only person
sad about that.
No, I'm sad about it.
I love that series.
I think everybody
in the country watched that.
I think that
they ended it in a way
that it would be weird
for them to continue.
But then someone said that
they were going to
just switch social issues.
Yeah, I thought they'd go
to a different city,
just do something
as the same caliber, but not as a story that continues on.
That one season was a fucking doozy.
I love that show.
Yeah.
And Shorty was great in it, too.
Yeah.
I thought she was going to be like.
Yeah, the lawyer girl was great.
Regina was great.
The show was great.
I'm a little disappointed.
So gone but not forgotten.
Shout out to
all of them.
Seven seconds.
Even though fucking Netflix, man.
I'm the nigga that be turning Netflix
on like just to search for new shit.
That's been a little difficult lately.
They've been a little slow on the new uploads.
Well, they had like a run of
a million shows for
like they were coming out with it.
It was too much.
I told y'all a couple months ago I felt like that
about Netflix. There's nothing
on there.
They're wilding now. They're a little slow with the uploads.
They put out all these releases
that said they're about to spend $90 billion
in content. I'm assuming they'll fix that
soon. I'm just going to keep refreshing.
I'm pretty sure Orange is the New Black
will be back soon
that should be quiet for like i don't care about that shit yeah
orange is new black well that's one of their bigger shows yeah no definitely so definitely
um uh let's stay on tvs and movies really quickly i saw the venom trailer uh
is that the official trailer?
is the 7 second clip?
well the Venom leak
cause you know that's what they do
they show you the first appearance of the villain
so they say we got the first exclusive pictures of Venom
like we ain't seen Venom all our lives
so just that 7 second is going around
no there's a longer clip
that's not true
there's a longer clip than that
and I saw it
and it looks pretty good
it does
Marvel's keeping their foot in the gas bro they have to now that's what i want to talk
about next listen marvel marvel comic book junkie people this is where you should exit listen i have
not seen infinity wars but it's gonna sound like i'm giving spoilers because i'm just gonna guess some
shit and tell some jokes uh i don't know anything that's gonna happen in infinity wars i'm not one
of those marvel junkies that uh go on all the comic websites to see previews and spoilers
but i've read a few comic books in my day.
Let me just, hold on, man.
Hold on.
I'm sorry.
I fucked up.
Let's get a moment of silence.
Let me just put out the Kevin's heart with you.
It's so hard.
Here we go.
Boyz II Men.
How do. Captain America.
You're fucking out of here.
You and your shield.
I've been waiting for years to get you.
And I hated your little fucking tough guy in the army story.
I did.
Now I can be honest.
Now that Thanos is here.
I never thought you was tough, Captain America.
I'm glad you're out of here.
Cyclops.
Oh, man.
You and your little trick glasses, buddy.
You're out of here.
Rest in peace, Cyclops.
Who else is fucking Thanos going to kill and destroy?
Hey, Storm.
Storm.
Because you type cool with Cyclops.
Storm.
You and all your fucking weather magician shit.
You're going to die, bitch.
Come on.
Who else is going to?
Oh, man. Robert Downey Jr.
Iron Man
Wow
Wow
Yo, wow
Y'all got Thanos
Fuck
Yo, this is a great moment for you comic book
Fucking pussies
Shut the fuck up, Maul
Iron Man is outta here, nigga
You and your fucking out of here, nigga.
You and your fucking fancy metal outfit, nigga.
Huh?
Your little yellow and red.
Tony Stark's is good.
Oh, wait a second.
Wait a second.
Hey, Incredible Hulk.
You and your muscles.
You and your muscles. and your muscles six feet underground
y'all shut the fuck up
damn it i know y'all was such Damn I But y'all got the
Y'all bought the invisible capes
Roy can you see
Can you see their
I know nothing about what y'all are talking about
Can you see
Zero
Do you have eyes
Can you see their capes
Can you see their capes
Why
Why do you think
Why are y'all caping
Why are you caping for niggas
That I didn't even know
You had a thorough relationship
With my G
But incredible Hulk
What makes you think
Somebody's gonna
Kill the Incredible Hulk?
Have you met Thanos?
Have you seen Thanos?
Have you read a comic book with Thanos in it?
Alright, so let me tell you who Thanos is.
Listen, I ain't seen none of these little stupid
previews. I ain't the little white kid waiting
in line for three days. I'm cool. Yes, you are, by the way.
No, I'm not. I just...
I want to... I wish
we could find that podcast because it was early it was like year
one i don't know what movie came out yeah we should play game six of a finals to go watch
one of those damn movies in our year in year one of our podcast i said my beef with all this comic
book shit is where's the bad guy that comes to kill everybody because i know about galactus i know about thanos i know about
loki or loki or however you say his fucking name like some niggas wasn't for play play dr doom
there was a bunch of magneto there's some of these they won sometimes you are the white kid
in the line they they won out of yourself when you was old just not in costume when you was oh
yo man you have a cape on hey Hey, Dr. Doom used to beat
the shit out of the Fantastic Four.
I don't see it in the movie.
I don't see it in the movie. That's all I'm saying. So here we
are.
Thanos. Yeah.
Thanos is the one. Yes.
They gonna beat the dog shit out of
Thanos. And this week?
Yes.
You think the Incredible Hulk is gonna get killed? I don't think he's that incredible. Thanos. And this week? Yes. Well, you know, he was. The Incredible.
You think the Incredible Hulk is going to get killed?
I don't think he's that incredible.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't think he's that incredible next to Thanos.
Do you know Thanos is a god?
So was the last one that they just, the last dude.
Nah, see, that's my beef with the comic books.
They just be making up villains and it don't be the nigga from back in the day that was getting busy. It's some new nigga. Oh my shit, the plant god is here. Like somebody trash.
The plant god. Yeah, somebody that they could fuck up. Nah, nigga. Thanos, Infinity Gauntlet,
Five Stones, Iron Man, you're out of here, buddy. Sorry, I don't make the rules.
Wait a minute
How y'all think he
Go and want smoke with Thanos
Bizarro Iron Man
Almost killed Iron Man
In the last Iron Man
When he painted the suit black
And beat the shit out of Iron Man
Man get the fuck out of here
Almost doesn't count man
Can someone count
How many gunshots
Say Von can I get a paper towel please
You just had gauntlet
Very aggressively Let me take off My motherfucking vest hoodie Your cape Your cape how many gunshots I've won. Say, Vaughn, can I get a paper towel, please? You just said gauntlet very aggressively.
Let me take off
my motherfucking vest hoodie.
Your cape?
Your cape.
Take off my vest hoodie
so niggas know
I'm blessed as fuck.
That's Ronnie's shit, right?
Yo, Rory hates me.
Rory and Maul hate me.
But they can't stop talking to me
because our podcast is fire.
I think they should be the description of the podcast.
These niggas hate.
These co-hosts hate each other.
They hate my guts.
People seem to like it, so they continue to talk to each other.
Yo, I was thinking about it.
I said, I'm going to come in here and really give Maul and Rory the smoke on cam if they want the smoke.
Like, I got to find out what's wrong with these niggas.
On the cam?
On the cam.
I'm an old man.
I'm so trash.
On the cam?
The documented smoke. I'm a hoe. I'm so trash. On the cam? The documented smoke.
All right, wait.
There's some more funny shit happening.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
All right.
Oh, all right.
Before we get to the funny shit.
And I'm only bringing this up because this has been like a real,
this has been like a real topic with me and people I've been speaking to in the streets over the past two weeks.
Like some women have really been coming at me saying why all the media voices like myself, Charlamagne, Ebro, whoever the fuck they name, have been rather quiet when it comes to the fab situation.
Which the two of them were at Coachella together.
to the Fab situation.
Which the two of them were at Coachella together.
That is why me
and Charlamagne
and some of the other
media people
are rather quiet
when it comes to
the Fab situation.
Wait, who was at
Coachella together?
Fab and Emily.
Okay.
Allegedly.
No, not allegedly.
From a video
of the two of them.
It was in a video.
They were there.
I seen it.
I seen that it...
I seen that that shit,
they was there.
So now that's
cool i commend fab and emily for getting together and working out their family and their marital
issues my thing is this is the time where all of the women are supposed to come and apologize
wait whyize to who?
Because what do women,
I don't,
women have to say something when a woman stays with a man.
I don't think they have to apologize.
Not apologize.
You know what I'm talking about.
Not really apologize.
Come on, I wouldn't say that.
No, no.
No, that's what you said.
No, no, I take it back.
All right, nigga,
don't say it again.
You're trying to get me in trouble.
My bad.
I said it wrong.
Let me rephrase.
That was wrong. I was just checking. Not apologize. me in trouble. My bad. I would say it wrong. Let me rephrase. That was wrong.
I would just check out.
I'm not apologizing.
Just talking loosely.
Not apologizing.
But they have to say something.
They have to say something, though, right?
Yeah.
They have to assist this one?
Like, what is you doing, sis?
Do they?
Wait, wait.
Who do they speak to, though?
Do they speak to Emily?
No, no, no, no, no.
Leave Emily alone.
Who do they speak to?
Emily's been through whatever enough.
Emily, Fab, leave them alone.
I don't know.
I'm just saying.
It feels awkward when the guys are quiet and the women are quiet.
I feel like somebody's got to say something.
Yeah.
I mean, I understand what you're saying, but it's eh.
All right.
Who do you say something to, though?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm happy they got this shit together, though.
All right.
What else happened that is really important?
Oh, all right, really quickly.
Maybe not really quickly, but this is where I hand in my hipster card.
And I don't think I have a hipster card.
But Rory and Maul and Parks think I have a hipster card, so I'm trying to hand it in.
I see you at the meetings.
Oh, yeah?
Well, here we are.
This is the moment of truth right here, Rory.
oh yeah well here we are this is the moment of truth right here rory i want you guys to enlighten me on georgia smith
she's attractive and that is my issue
i see the hipster movement that's the opposite of my issue.
Hold up, hold up.
Hey, relax.
I see the hipster movement taking place and attempting to make me like Georgia Smith.
She might be telling.
What's not to like?
I don't know.
That's why I said to enlighten. I've only heard like two records.
And that is why I said enlighten me on Georgia Smith.
Because when I went to do research on Georgia Smith and why everybody liked Georgia Smith so much, I didn't see so many records.
She doesn't have a lot.
So what is the record that has all of these people on Georgia Smith?
And I'm not saying that to hate.
I want to do my research.
But I'm not seeing it.
I see that she's really attractive.
Which has me thinking that y'all niggas are just bigging shit up because chicks are really attractive.
Is that a hipster thing?
I think that's a man thing.
No, that's a hipster thing.
That's a hipster thing.
Men just want to fuck the attractive chick.
They don't really want to big her up every day.
So that's not a man thing.
But all right, I'm just saying, if there is one of those songs, then I want you to tell
me so I can go look for it.
I played Blue Lights on this podcast a while ago.
She was on Drake's album twice.
Oh, that's...
Got it, got it.
She had an interlude.
I got it now.
That's what...
Oh, the Georgia interlude.
She's been...
Now it's all coming together.
These hipsters, more, more.
It was the Drake stamp.
More.
It was the Drake stamp.
Come on.
That's it.
Drake posted a picture of her one day on Instagram
Joe she's also bigger
Like she's from overseas
Okay got it
So it's just getting to America
Alright so we hold up then
We'll hold off
We'll hold off
But she's talented
She is
I mean she sounds like she can sing
I just thought there was a song
Kind of maybe like
Alessia Carver's
No
Here
Who had everybody
She
And I think she premiered
Something on Insecure
As well like in the credits
She's using the right outlets In Americaica to get there drake insecure okay uh i wanted to
ask maul and rory if they were gonna go out and purchase the new puma lenciagas
pre-orders mine already now let me just say before you guys answer, Kanye posted that meme where he accused Nike of biting off of his little Adidas style, whatever sneaker that is, 450, 420.
I don't keep up.
Now, I saw Puma putting out a sneaker that looks exactly like that.
I see a few sneakers coming out looking exactly like that.
Would you wear the Puma Balenciaga?
No.
Would you wear the real balenciaga sneaker no
would you wear a designer sneakers would you would you wear the uh puma lenciaga but a puma
is not designing i'm wearing pumas no i don't like i'm a puma head i don't like when like high-end
fashion like louis and gucci i don't like when they i never liked the Louis shoes Yeah I don't do I never liked Gucci shoes Yeah those are ugly
I would never wear those
You know
I saw my first pair
Of off-white
Collabs that I like
What's the
The Prestos
Yeah they're the Prestos
They got some shit
I wasn't mad at the 97s either
Where do people go to purchase
Off-white collabs
I never
I never knew where people
Go to purchase
I'm not cool enough to know
And I'm never buying
A raffle ticket
To get sneakers
All you niggas is losers Johnny Johnny you're a loser for getting raffle tickets
to buy sneakers to burst everyone's bubble those raffles are fixed wait friends win the raffle
wait you know what's funny johnny know how much of a loser you are you be winning the raffles
like you actually get the sneakers that's how you know you are way to get a fucking bum anyway um
all right so i'll keep a lookout for that
uh i said it wasn't much to talk about this week and we're right around i think we covered
everything wait i do want to ask oh wait a minute hey so ghost on twitter
um who i followed after i was gonna to fight him a few years ago.
I was flying to Atlanta to fight Ghost.
Wait, wait, wait.
I need that back story before.
He was going on a Twitter.
Did you book the flight?
He was on a Twitter rant to somebody.
And this was back when Twitter was Twitter, 2011, 12, 10.
You had a fun time, man.
The golden years.
And this is when I was just telling niggas that they can't fight. Like, if niggas would diss me, I'd be like, you can't fight, nigga. I had a fun time. The golden years. And this is when I was just telling niggas
that they can't fight.
Like,
if niggas would diss me,
I'd be like,
you can't fight,
nigga,
I'll beat you up.
So I said that to him,
he responded,
and I was,
in the tweet anyway,
purchasing a flight to Atlanta
to link up with him
and fight him.
I just have a question.
When you buy a flight
to fight somebody,
do you like,
look for a good rate,
or are you just booking
the first one you see? You want a good rate. You want a good rate. Yeah, you don't want to pay a lot. But what if you flight to fight somebody, do you look for a good rate or are you just booking the first one you see?
You want a good rate.
You want a good rate.
Yeah, you don't want to pay a lot.
But what if you fly out to fight somebody and get washed?
Yeah, he park you.
Well, that's why I didn't fly out there.
Okay.
Because it's probably not smart to fight somebody, a stranger on their territory.
When they have time to prep.
Atlanta.
Yeah.
Yo, you better go and make sure you prepare in 36 hours because I will be there.
Yeah, yeah.
That's not really the move.
But anyway, so his name popped up in the news recently because he borrowed $75 from a girl, a young lady, and didn't return it.
And she was angry about it.
So she exposed some private text messages between the two of them.
Over $75?
Yeah. So let me just say, ladies and gentlemen out there, you should not lend money that you need back.
You shouldn't lend it.
That should be your rule of thumb.
Don't lend it if you can't afford to lend it.
Let me say that.
Listen, man, you can't air somebody out over $75.
I'm sorry.
That's fucking ridiculous.
Yeah, but wait.
But that's not even the point
because
I mean we've all been there
we've all been there before
I have all borrowed
$75
from a girl
with no interest
in paying her back
yeah I've never
paid somebody
I've probably done that
so
I wasn't really
interested in that story
outside of
him and I
are almost fight a few years ago.
But I read it and I just ignored it.
But then the lady kept putting out more texts.
So I read them.
And then that's when my mentions.
And I and I saved I saved the text because it was too juicy.
I thought you might delete it.
So I'm here to read you the text to see if are y'all familiar
with the story no good good god i'm so glad oh no i'm sorry please please please i'm the a mic i
want to i want to i want to put my a mic shit in effect i want to mute rory's mic until the
appropriate time got you rory i'm not rory uh parks and mall i want to read y'all this slew of
texts and see if y'all can figure out the point that I became interested.
Okay.
Here we go.
If Rory Names pops up in this, this is going to be the greatest story ever.
It doesn't, but it does.
The young lady says, hey, where's my $75?
Yo. Getting right to the point
yo I hate when girls
text you
and get right to the point
like you gotta slow walk
the dog in my text
that means they're ready
don't let me look down
in my phone
and see the exact reason
why you're texting me
immediately
say good morning
how I'm doing
or something
she said hey
where's my $75 man
and ghost whose name is Sean and I'm doing or something. She said, hey, where's my $75, man?
And Ghost, whose name is Sean,
and I'm only saying that because it's here,
he said, it'll be in your PayPal tomorrow.
Question to you guys,
doesn't that sound like it ends it?
Question to you guys,
does that sound like it ends it if you're talking to an emotional woman?
Not at all.
So you guys let me keep going.
She says, because you've hit me every morning since I've been here.
Early in the morning today you didn't, and I really don't want to hear no other excuse.
Because if you don't have your car yet, you still have my 75.
And honestly, you can send that back.
I said, before I leave.
He said, yeah, before you leave.
Right.
Me and she's not leaving yet.
No, I'll get it to you.
I said, before you leave, I'll get it to you.
Get off my phone.
Why are you still on my phone?
Yo, and I'm reading it this way because men and women really have a hard time understanding each other.
And since I'm a man, I'm fighting for the men on this one.
She says, I leave at 6 a.m i thought i thought she had him there he said if i had your
75 right now i would have just sent it to you if i had it uh if i had it since friday i would have
just sent it to you don't know if you just want to argue with me or if you're accusing me of lying, but either way, it's unnecessary.
And the money should clear at around 3 a.m.
The 75 should clear.
The bank has to check that one out.
I want y'all to understand that we talking about three dubs.
We talking about three dubs and some change.
I just want to make sure. Three dubs and some change. I just want to make sure.
Three dubs and some change.
A ten and a five.
Listen, the 75 will clear is crazy.
Actually, you should just give them the 80.
Send the four dubs and get it over with.
But, Ma, don't do that.
Why?
And send it after me, too.
Some people do not have $75
and you can't sound like, to spare,
to spare, to spare, to spare.
It's tough out there.
It's tough out there.
I'm with you. I bought it for a reason.
Yes. Come on, Mo.
I'm mad at his
dialogue.
I thought he was bodying the dialogue.
You can't ever tell me $75 is going to clear.
I'm not having a dialogue over $75.
Yeah, like, man.
I'm not going to.
Don't tell me.
Dialogue.
Bank of America called me, asked me what it was for.
Yeah, like, get the fuck out of here, man.
Yeah, I ain't going to lie.
$75.
That's suspicious activity.
That's what I'm saying.
$75.
I got a notification on my text.
Did you?
Did you authorize this shit?
It's sitting a fucking 75 through, man.
Hey, your $75 should be clear in the next five minutes.
I don't even know what you mean.
They don't need hours to verify your 75 bones.
Oh, Ghost, you're great, man.
All right, so let me finish because there's more.
I didn't even get to the good part.
Oh, yeah, no, that's the setup.
All right.
This is crazy.
All right. Oh, he says, says and yes i have my car he gave her he called her a bitch in his head
after that one he didn't write that but he said and she said listen oh yo when bitches start with
listen you're in trouble my nigga first of all listen. First of all, listen to a text is crazy. Listen to a text is crazy.
I'm the king of that.
I'm the king of listen to the text.
That lets you know I'm in business.
She says, listen.
Oh, wait, before I read this, I hate when people do this, too.
Like, if I owe you money, don't count my money I'm spending, my nigga.
No, you 100% can count the money.
Nah, but don't do that.
If somebody owe you money
And you see them out there
Having fun
Nah nah
I need my 75 for that fun
Nah my friends got me
On the fun my nigga
Your friends better
Have you on my 75
Nah my friends don't care
About your 75
She says listen
You bought a
Duce Palooza ticket
You've hung out
Chilled with your people
Cool
I sent the 75 Because I asked you to pick me up
from the airport which you clearly couldn't do so i took a cab i don't care about anything else
bar it i want my money by midnight let me hit the gunshot man let me turn down a little bit
for the people at work i want my money by midnight, Ghost.
Ace Boogie paid for it. I don't give a fuck if you got to get it from Tommy.
I want my $75 on Monday.
All right.
Ghost says,
Hey,
At Dose Rivers bought me a ticket.
At Chef Waits got me a VIP band.
Midnight?
Question mark.
Are you giving me an ultimatum about $75?
Seriously?
That's what it sounds like.
Question mark.
I ain't gonna lie.
I like Ghost's temperament, man.
Ghost handled himself like a real mature adult in this wild time.
Is she fine?
Well, wait, because I have more questions.
Let me just finish reading, and then we'll assess it together like a real mature adult in this wild time. Is she fine? Well, wait, because I have more questions. Let me just finish reading
and then we'll assess it together
like a family.
Then she said,
you told me I would have it by Friday.
You've danced around it, my nigga.
The principle is
you didn't keep your word.
So now,
when chicks use shit
like the principle,
you beat.
You fuck.
You fuck this chick ghost
because she's talking
about the principle.
Yeah, that's true.
He said, all right, I'm done.
Did I get my car booted?
You sent me money to get the boot off.
The other money you sent me was for your weed.
Hold on.
I want to add another curveball.
Let's, Ghost.
Talk your shit, Ghost.
This woman is married. Oh,ball. Let's go. Talk your shit, ghost. This woman is married.
Oh, shit.
Wait.
No, no, no, no, no.
This isn't like, no.
She said this on the timeline.
Well, pause this.
Pause this.
I want to come back to this.
So let me finish reading this.
Just keep that in mind.
And I want to get into you.
No.
Where can you get a boot off your car for $75?
Where can you get a married woman to send you $75?
Atlanta.
I got to move to Atlanta, man.
Me too.
That's crazy.
I don't even have a car.
All right.
Let me see.
This says, she said, it's my money.
I don't care if it was $2.
LOL.
IDC.
LOL.
Back to back LOLs.
You're lying.
You're not LOLing.
He says, I didn't expect to get my car booted in the middle of the work week, Tawana.
And I didn't know how much my check was going to be.
Relax. She says, that's's fine i don't care i only care about my 75 dollars so that's caring uh to wanna uh she said hit me once you send it he said i literally don't have any
money but i'm hustling to get more right now you'll get the notification no need to hit you you obviously
don't give a fuck about anything else besides me paying you back good try there ghost uh
i've tried that trick back in the day when you get them to act like they only care about one
thing that's pretty materialistic and shallow and not about your needs while you're in a time
of desperation hey clap it up for Ghost
on that one.
That's an OG move.
Make yourself vulnerable.
Yeah,
yeah,
you got to do that,
especially when they
beefing about something.
I'm not mad at that.
Oh,
Kyger.
This is over $75.
Let's see what Kyger does.
She said that you do
the same over $2.
Yeah.
If you PayPal
some of $2.
This shit is great, man.
What?
I'm on part two. This is great, man. Oh, yeah, man. You have real nigga shit on there, man. $2? What?
Oh, yeah, man.
Yeah, real nigga shit on there, man.
No, thank you, guys.
I appreciate that.
I'll call you later, so we kick it.
My man, I'm out.
One.
What are we talking about?
Mad industry.
What are we talking about?
Just now.
Shut up, Roy.
We stopped a great story.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
I'm sorry, guys.
He called.
Let me see, let me see. Where is we having a...
That's fine.
I don't care.
I'm going to send him...
He said...
Oh, he said...
I live...
Oh, I said that.
You'll get the notification
oh she says
you were at
Ducey Palooza
partying yesterday
telling me you don't
have it today
you're right
I don't
thanks
listen in ghost defense
the Ducey is free
at Ducey Palooza
there you go
I don't like a chick
just clocking my
all my moves
while I'm at Ducey
trying to lounge
trying to lounge yeah like I'm at DuceUssé trying to lounge. Trying to lounge?
Yeah, like I'm at D'Ussé trying to get the pressures of the world off me,
and here they are also in D'Ussé Palooza.
Right.
You about to ruin my fucking great time here with my friends
and trying to bag these fine Atlanta bitches over $75, ma?
Mm-hmm.
Wait, so let me finish.
She got to be fine.
So he says, why did you say that?
wait so let me finish so he says why did you say that and she said eating eating some fun hat eating some have fun eating some i don't know what that
means he said man fuck that i'm not eating anymore that shit what's it oh they're showing oh she
showed the old old tweet this is old lol did the money clear yet? He says, I'll check. Sorry, I've been in a daze playing FIFA
with Dose. He gives a lot of information
to people. That's a lot.
Yeah, did the money clear? You're telling her
you're playing FIFA with your friend.
With Dose?
Yeah, Dose don't even sound like he's encouraging
you to pay her back.
And gave everyone's Twitter names before.
I thought that was a Twitter name and a text.
How old is this nigga? She says,
okay,
and then this is the
most classicist
of them all,
this move right here.
Let's hear it.
He then sent a picture
of his empty bank account.
Swag.
$2.89.
$2.89.
We've already seen this,
so I won't show him.
I'm familiar.
Hey, Ghost,
let me hit the round of applause really low for you one time.
For the $2?
All niggas got that spare empty bank account.
Yo.
The $2.89.
Everybody got that bank account that's got $2.89 in it.
From that old bank that don't even exist. Yeah, you get it.
Fam, you got to keep it there,
the bank that lets you pay
on the underdraft.
Like when the money
is not really there,
yeah, we got it, ghost.
Slick move there.
So I want to dab him for that.
Now, to Rory's point,
no, I didn't know
that this chick was married, Rory.
You're telling me
this girl's married?
She revealed that information
on the timeline.
So a married woman
is sending a man money.
The story's got to be. And what she she was saying she is just friends with this gentleman and you
can't send your friend money no they didn't sound like friends that doesn't sound friendly and i
don't care if it's a man or a woman if you're married you probably have a joint account don't
fucking send somebody 75 to get their boot off their car yeah no don't send no man yo let's talk
about this hold up hold up Let's get into it.
This is where these Twitter niggas get weird.
She's married, right?
And she sent a nigga
from Twitter $75.
Yeah, like.
What am I doing
if I'm her husband?
Stealing $75 out of her.
I'm having,
I ain't got an issue with that
if I'm her husband,
number one.
Number two,
anybody read her bio?
No, I didn't read it.
No.
It's a personal chef.
Oh, my God.
So that left me even more confused as to why a chick that has personal chef in her bio would be behaving this way.
Who the fuck is hiring you to cook?
You're spilling all the business over 75 bones.
Four doves.
Chef John would never.
Someone never. Or Chef
Corey. None of them. Even through their breakup.
He's been quiet. No, no, no. He cares
about me. Post breakup.
So I have to ask Rory,
what's going on over there at
Deucey Palooza, man?
Listen, man. I didn't know that this is what you guys
were funneling.
It then hit the group chat, and I know Chef Waits.
He lives in Atlanta.
He's a good guy.
My group chat directed all the energy to me and said, well, you're in charge of the bands.
How the fuck did Chef Waits get VIP bands?
Nah, that's true.
I never looked at it like that.
I then said, I only had backstage bands.
Duke had all the VIP ones
that's in the front.
So Rory snitched.
Duke runs with all the Twitter guys.
True.
He did.
He snitched.
Oh, of course I snitched.
I'm not getting brought into this.
Way to stand up.
Way to stand up for your snitch.
Don't worry about it.
Yeah.
I'm not getting involved in this mess.
I don't know who Ghost Rider is
or who that chick is. I'm not mad at you, mess I don't know who Ghost Rider is Or who that chick is
I'm not mad at you my G
Yeah
Yeah you have no loyalty
To either one of them
None
Tell them all
I'm with you
Oh yeah
But I don't know
I don't know
Does this leave a stain
At Ducey Palooza
Nah
Or does this make us
Hotter in the streets
Nah you're hot out there
And Ghost is hot out there
That's hard when you avoid
A chick you owe money to
the whole night.
Man, clap it up
for my nigga Ghost, man.
Yo, $75 is crazy.
I'm not answering those texts.
And I'm not paying her $75
just because you annoying about it.
If you would just leave me alone,
I'd have gave it to you
because the money cleared.
$75 clearing is crazy.
But more,
you don't remember the time
where you didn't have passive income?
Yeah, but I'm not saying it didn't clear.
Wait, I just said $75.
This is passive income.
It's $75.
Is that income?
I'm out of here, man.
It didn't clear.
When does $75 clear?
I don't know.
I don't know if I'm offering to pick a chick up at the airport if I have $2.89 don't know. I don't know if I'm offering
to pick a chick up at the airport if I have $2.89
in my account, though.
This is what I'm saying. There's too much shit going on
in this story, man. I don't know if I'm doing it.
He got me with that one. She's got to be fine.
Eh?
Can I see?
I didn't want to, you know, everyone has their preference.
I want to see this woman. She wasn't the cutest.
She was a hit.
Okay.
Well, maybe that's fine to him. Everyone has their preference. I want to see this woman. She wasn't the cutest. She was aight. Okay.
Well, maybe that's fine to him.
Man, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Some people don't have eyes. The beholder of the PayPal account.
Yeah.
You seen her?
You looking her up?
No, what's her name?
Oh, definitely 5-0-1-I-G.
I definitely...
Tawana or some shit.
Tawana?
I don't think her Ad name is Tawana
You know niggas
Gotta put underscore
In their ad name
So you're not gonna
Tell me who it is
What's her name
Wait what's her name
You know what I'm saying
I don't know
I didn't know
I don't know her
Twitter name
She wasn't somebody
I follow Ghost
And let me just say
He did a great job
On his timeline
Just under pressure
That way
He even changed
He changed something in his bio
to mention owing $75 still.
There have been some classic... Oh, wait.
Time out. Time out. Wait. I'm sorry. Then another
chick came out and attacked Ghost.
He owed another $75?
Said that she went on a date
with
Ghost. And he left his... He forgot his wallet.
At the end of the date, he said, hey,
forgot my wallet at home. Yo, Ghost. Can you left his, he forgot his wallet. At the end of the date, he said, hey, forgot my wallet at home.
Yo,
Ghost.
Can you do me a favor?
Go ahead and pay for both of these meals.
Swag.
Young lady said that
she had the check come,
she paid for her meal,
she got the fuck out of there on Ghost.
Left them there.
Oh,
told the waiter that,
hey,
this gentleman needs to pay for his items.
His items. Yeah, once you got to pull out words like items, told the waiter that, hey, this gentleman needs to pay for his items. His items.
Yeah, once you got to pull out words like items, is that the check arriving?
My side of mash is not an item.
What happens when that happens?
You got to do dishes?
I try to avoid those people.
The people that want to itemize the check.
Do dishes.
You're going to jail.
Nigga, this ain't 1988.
You're going to jail.
Over $40?
Yes.
I didn't sign a contract.
I just said, yo, let me get some of that shit you got.
Okay.
Try it.
Well, it might be different
for y'all too, generally.
But they gonna lock
my black ass up.
I know that for sure.
But that's exactly
why I won't go to
D'Ussé Palooza though.
Because if it's niggas dead
without $75,
I'm not going.
Yeah, I don't want to party
with niggas that's
waiting for the $75 to clear.
Well, then it brings me back to how many people have lied to Fat Man Scoop saying how much money they had in their pocket.
Fat Man Scoop, fucking me!
People have always lied.
People always lie to Fat Man Scoop.
Who's fucking tonight?
Who's fucking tonight?
I used to always raise my hand when I wasn't fucking tonight.
And you would look around at the chicks that were screaming.
I was never fucking the night that Fat Man Scoop asked.
Never.
I was a virgin.
That Fat Man Scoop asked if I was fucking that night.
I was nowhere near pussy when he asked
that shit. Yeah, definitely not.
Okay, I don't think there's much else
to cover, honestly. Oh, wait, I want to talk
to Maul about sports really quick.
Talk to me about Carmelo.
Come on, give it to me.
We've had a great, honest podcast
so far, and I want to commend you guys.
He's not a Nick anymore, so you can be unbiased now.
No, listen to me, Mo.
At the end of his Nick's tenure, I said he has to go
because I started watching him, and when he's disengaged,
he's really no good when he's disengaged,
and that kind of is the same thing that I'm seeing now in OKC.
If he's not getting touches, he's not with the shits.
And if he's not with the shits and knocking down open threes,
there's no point in having him out there.
He's not going to cut.
He's not setting a hard pick.
He's not grabbing a rebound.
He's not doing anything else to help your team win when he's not scoring.
That's the problem with him.
And as the third option, he definitely don't look invested over there.
If all of them was invested,
they should be able to beat a rookie Donovan Mitchell.
Yeah.
But here's the thing, though, with Utah.
They move the ball
so much. Melo's not
closing out more than once.
So if he has to close out twice in a possession on a
shooter, you can forget about it. You're going to get an open
shot. Then bring him off the bench.
You can't bring Melo off the bench. He won't. See, people
always say that. You're paying him too much
money. That's the NBA.
If you're paying a guy all of this money, he cannot come off your bench.
It's one year, and I'm trying to get as deep as I can in the playoffs.
Yeah, but you bring him off the bench.
And he's a rental.
And if you bring him off the bench, it's still the same issue, though.
I don't know that.
Then he could be a volume shooter on my second unit.
He's disengaged because he's not getting touches.
But he's not even shooting the ball well.
Well, maybe that changes if he's the focal point in the second.
All I'm saying is that
what's that coach over there, Billy Donovan, who should not
coach in the NBA anymore? He's trash. He has to go.
Him and his one more.
How many coaches got to get fired under
Westbrook tenure?
That's a good
question.
I'm not going to put it on Westbrook, though.
Yeah, I can't put it on Russ.
I think Russ is great. I think it's difficult to coach a team around a guy
That just needs the ball in his hand for the entire game
I just want to say as a Knicks fan
Watching Donovan Mitchell
Is really hurting my soul
It's hurting my soul
And Frank Nikola
To end up being aight
He's not going to end up being a Donovan Mitchell though
Never
But he might end up being aight I mitchell though i've never but he might
end up being all right yeah i mean i want to see what the knicks do with this draft pick honestly
because uh say dolan is talking about no really really this time though it's gonna tell me a lot
about their thinking because dolan is saying kp not might not play all next season mall told me
last season that kp's not resigning after his rookie contract his brother is representing him
now and he's echoing the mall sentiments so i need to see if the draft pick says they're
looking for a piece to slide alongside kp or a piece to replace kp that's all i'm saying well
i don't think the knicks will have a pick in this draft that's going to replace a player like oh
yeah because they're going to pick around some eighth or ninth or some shit with the new draft
rules yeah so they're not going to get a play like that. But, I mean, you know.
Deep draft, though.
It is a deep draft.
At another point, I want you to tell me your thoughts on the European kid, Luka.
Have you researched him?
He's the real deal.
He looks like the real deal.
Yeah, he's the real deal.
He'll probably be a top four pick.
They say number one.
I don't know if he'll go number one.
All right, so Donovan Mitchell is killing the big three.
They're going to win that series.
Not next game, but the game after in Utah, right?
I think they're going to win the next game.
Close it out.
A little disappointed in Minnesota's showing against Houston.
I thought they would put up a more valiant fight than that.
I'll be honest.
I did.
They're talented.
They're talented.
They're talented.
That was, I mean, you score 50 points in a quarter, you're most likely going to win the game.
Golden State is cheating again.
That's why you said that.
They are.
They are.
They are.
They're cheating.
Why do you say that, though?
I don't think there's any scenario where a Kawhi-less Spurs just beats that team.
Yeah, no.
So when they beat them in game three or four.
They just beat them game four.
Four. That's four.
See, that's my point. Golden State won three games.
I heard Stephen A say something like this, but I agreed
before I heard him say that.
They won three and then the Spurs won one.
I'm in a pool, so
I have all of my picks for
every single game, so I kind of
called that one like that.
I just didn't see it going that way.
I think they're buying time for Steph to get back
because them Pelican boys don't look like the sweet niggas
they were a couple years ago when Steph hit that corner three
to close out the series.
That's what I think.
Them niggas look a little for real.
Drew Holiday don't look so slumpish.
He looks on fire
Rondo looks like playoff Rondo
And Anthony Davis is arguably the second
Or first or third best player in the league
Wherever you want to slot him
That's why
No, I get it
But I don't
Because I don't even think they have plans
On even bringing Steph back
Until it's like late in the second round
Alright, stop
Don't say nothing
Alright, so great Don't say nothing. All right.
So great.
Don't say nothing.
So do you think that curry-less Warriors can beat the Pelicans?
Yes.
Yes.
I think so.
Yeah, me too.
I don't think it'd be easy.
And I think that's the problem.
I think it'd go six.
I picked the Blazers to beat the Pelicans too.
I didn't think they would get swept like that.
I didn't think they were going to get swept,
but I don't believe in Dame Lillard.
I'm big on saying that.
Wait.
No, I don't believe him. Postseason, I don't believe in Dame Lillard. I'm big on Sam. Wait. No, I don't believe him.
Postseason, I don't believe
in Dame Lillard.
He can ball though.
Did you watch him play
Houston a few years ago?
Yeah, but I don't,
I still don't believe it.
Fluke?
Not that it was a fluke.
It's just not enough
for me to be like,
he's going to beat.
Travis Best with SoundCloud?
I ain't going to,
I'm not going to say all that.
You better not.
I love you, Dame.
Friend of the show, Dame.
Dame can hoop, but postseason, you got to show me something.
And CJ can hoop, too, but an undersized backcourt. Oh, yeah, we didn't got to say that, but it's postseason.
You got to blow it up, Portland.
Yeah.
And I would trade Dame Lillard before I trade CJ,
because I don't need a point guard.
To the Knicks?
That's much the average, 30.
For Ziggis?
No, anybody else. Tim Waterway. I don't know. I'm sure they the Knicks? That's much the average 30. For Ziggis? No.
Anybody else.
Tim Waterway.
I don't know.
I'm sure they'll do that.
That'll go right through.
That'll clear like the 75.
Okay.
So here we are.
Wait, wait.
Who do you have coming out the East?
Sixers looking all right, man.
I got the Sixers.
Y'all think Cleveland can get down to the first round?
Yes.
Yeah.
Indiana blew it.
I don't think so.
They had to win game four.
I think I might agree with you. I thought they was going to do it, but that momentum. I think Cleveland's going home, man. Yeah. Indiana blew it. I don't think so. They had to win game four. I think I might agree with you.
I thought they was going to do it, but that momentum.
I think Cleveland's going home, man.
Wow.
They are eventually going home.
No, first round.
I don't think they're getting out of the first round.
If they get out of the first round, they might still come out of the East.
No, they got the Raptors next.
Nobody's beating Philly.
Do they have the Raptors or Philly next?
They would have.
They would have the Raptors.
Raptors, Wizards.
Because Wizards look like they're going to win that series. I don't think the Cavs are going to beat the Raptors either. They could have the Raptors. Raptors, Wizards. Wizards look like they're going to win that series.
I don't think the Cavs can beat the Raptors either.
They can beat the Wizards.
No, I think the Cavs can beat the Raptors.
I think they could too. They can't beat Philly.
Philly is coming out of the East. That's my
pick coming out of the East. Me too.
You just stole our pick.
I didn't hear your pick. You just asked us our
pick and we said it. We said we got Philly.
Oh, okay. I didn't hear that.. You just asked us our pick, and we said it. We said we got Philly. Oh, okay. I didn't hear that.
Trust the process.
The NFL draft is Thursday.
I know a lot of people don't care about that.
Maul is boycotting the draft, so let me just say this to Parks really quickly.
Because I've changed my stance on the Giants pick a lot.
This is my change now.
Before, I was saying the Giants shouldn't take Saquon Barkley because you'll have to pay him top running back money immediately and on the re-sign however character so if they take him
number two then they're going to pay him that type of money because of his character his character
and his talent warrants him getting that type of money the same way i think odell would not be
having these contract problems if his character mirrored Saquon's character.
Yeah.
They would have paid him already.
They're going to take that.
They would have paid him already.
I think that any team should take Saquon Barkley.
He's the best player in the draft and you're crazy if you don't pick him.
But I understand people not wanting to take a running back and have him be
paid that high on a rookie contract.
I understand that.
I get it.
I get it.
That's where, that's where my argument stops against Saquon Barkley.
I'm not mad at him or Bradley Chubb or Sam Darnold.
Those are my three picks.
I do feel like Saquon is going to end up on a giant somehow,
and then I definitely foresee a locker room struggle between him and Odell.
His character just seems too on the straight and narrow,
and he's not with the shits.
And if they're going to build around him,
then I see an Odell-Saquon beef at some point in the future.
So there, I'll say that.
And that's my NFL shit.
I'm done.
I don't have anything else to say.
I'm glad that we're back on our normal day, Wednesday.
I want to shout out to all the stories
that I'm sure are going to break this week.
The one week where we don't record late.
Coachella happened over the weekend again, but nothing really.
You know what I mean?
That shit wasn't televised.
Yeah, nothing really to report back to you guys on that one.
It's been a slow week.
It's been a slow week.
It's been a slow week.
Anything else you guys need to get out get out before we by the time this podcast
drives I will be in
Los Angeles
doing nothing
nice
Rory
I don't know what
we'll be doing
what are you doing
I'll be chilling
I'll be in New York
it looks like you have
my sleeper up to play
oh
sorry
I'm playing it first
well I was gonna go first
cause I gotta go
so
so you gotta go I'm playing it so you Well, I was going to go first because I got to go. So? So you got to go.
I'm playing it.
So you got to go.
Yeah, then go, nigga.
I've had this song on repeat too many times.
I knew that me and Rory's music taste was a bit similar.
Sometimes we come in here and want to play the same joint.
So, well, you can play it.
You play it.
I'm going to intro it because, man, let me tell you something.
I don't like this Khaled kid.
I've never been the biggest. Rory's a fan of his. I'm going to intro it because, man, let me tell you something. I don't like this Khaled kid. I've never been the biggest.
Rory's a fan of his.
I'm not.
You say that every time.
Because I've heard you play a few of his records.
That's all.
I played that first one that got really big, but his album was for kids.
I listened to it.
All right, so I take it back.
Yeah, I'm not.
Rory was the person I heard playing his other record a lot.
That made me think that Rory's a big fan of his.
I think he's going to be a good kid when he grows up and talks about things that i would like so this record though it could be your sleeper rory but
let me play it because i intro better than you um well that's not right you can intro and i'll
just hype you up i'll be the hype man no you got it bro take it away all right so i purchased i
purchased this song and i'm probably more excited about it than Rory because Rory has liked music from this guy before,
but I never really could get into him.
But Khalid, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm not doing that on purpose.
Khalid put a record out featuring Black, featuring Ty Dolla $ign,
that I have been playing nonstop since it came out.
It's called OTW, which stands for On The Way.
And, well, before we play it, Rory, who do you think bodied this?
Because I think they all got in their bag.
I think Ty got in his bag.
Black was in a black bag.
They bodied it differently, too.
Yeah.
Each verse is nothing like the other.
Very, very different.
So, well, you didn't answer.
Who do you think bodied it?
I'm always going with Black.
Over Dollar?
They both bodied it, though.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Black hits you at, like, your seventh list.
And this is OTW
Cali Black
Ty Dolla $ign
Let's go I'll be on the way, yeah, yeah I'll be on the way
And you can meet me in five I'll be your nine
I'll be your thing I'll be your thing, yeah, yeah, yeah
It's the type of shit that you been waiting on your floor
I'm making time for a minute, yeah, you with it
Got a lot of time, I just need some red spinning
I just got some money in the top, go missing
I kept the slip so you know it's not winning at all
What you wanna do?
Worry about your friends, that's all you this afternoon
I've been being your mind
No fear, but you gotta let me know I'm all outside, I'll be on the way
I'll be on the way and you can beat me in five
I'll be your man, I'll be your thing
I'll be on the nine, I'll be on all day I'll be on all day
Put it in five, I'll be outside, I'll be on the way
I'll be on the way
You can beat me in five, I'll be on the nine, I'll be on all day
I'll be on all day
Drop top the Porsche, put that bitch a sport
Out here in the field, oh yeah
I'm already here, yeah, yeah
Come outside, lookin' like a snake
Hurry up, get in, hell yeah
Come with me, you're his nation
Ridin' down the coast
That one up for sure
You said Blake Lee, I said PasuĂ
Pull up to the crib, boss
Said you never been before
Put you in for fock a tour
Girl, I made you need more You said you left your ex that you was always passing
You said before me you ain't never been this happy
You took a L with him and went in ever since
You in my phone, I'm on my way, I cancel plans, baby
I'll be on the way, I'll be on the way
You can beat me in five, I'll be your line, I'll be on the way, I'll be on the way You can beat me in five, I'll be all nine, I'll be all day, I'll be all day
Put it in five, I'll be outside, I'll be on the way I'll be on the way, you can beat me in five, I'll be all nine, I'll be all day, I'll be all day
I'll be your man, I'll be your man You tryna make a move, tonight I got the time
Tell me what you wanna do
Colors fly out if you wanna rendezvous
They gon' push up on they own, I only got room for two
Front of Jigs on the set, support's not a fit
I confess, I'ma flex, till they show some spit
Get away so we can make sense of your lies
You wasn't part but I just put your shit in drive
And now I'm close, like there's no tomorrow
Moving too fast, I'm hoping to drive soon
I don't want you to wonder where I go
Can't learn a lot from this and it's something that I know
Put it in the vibe, I'll be outside, I'll be on the way
I'll be on the way and you can beat me in five
I'll be your man, I'll be your man
I'll be your man
Put it in five, I'll be outside, I'll be on the way
I'll be on the way and you can beat me in five
I'll be your man, I'll be your man I'll be on the way And you can beat me in five I'll be on the line
I'll be all day
I'll be all day
That was brand new music from Khalid
Featuring Black and Tide Dollar Sign
That one is called OTW
On the way
That was Rory Sleeper
Really my sleeper
But that was Rory Sleeper rory had to get
out of here because rory had some fucking employment shit to do so whatever that was great
i'm gonna play this record by uh by jameson jmsn uh and i'm familiar with him, but over the weekend, Steph118 put me on to this record.
No better feeling than getting put on to new good music.
And she knows that about me.
So shout out to her.
She's one of the people I trust.
I trust her music senses.
So she sent me this record called So Badly by Jameson.
It's an old record, but I've been playing it along with that otw record ever since
so let me get into this hold up hey i mean hey now and then i bump into one of these old records
with the weird the weird vibe that i'll be fucking with i'm definitely i'm definitely walking around the house naked
while this beat is rocking.
This is my house.
I had a pause.
It's a bad bitch living show.
It's a bad bitch living show. Hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey, hey
Oh, you know me
And I want it so badly
And I want it so badly
And I want it so badly
And I just can't live this way And I love you so badly, you know I just can't live this way
You know I love you so badly, yeah, and I want it so badly every day
You know I love you so badly, I just can't wait another day
Now listen. Everything's so blue Blue
Love, love, love, love, love, love
I'm just trying to know, yeah
Tell me where I went wrong
Yeah, cause I just can't go on Tell me where I went wrong
Yeah, cause I just can't go on Oh, don't know
You know I love you so badly
And I want it so badly
You know I love you so badly
And I just can't live this way You know I love you so badly, you know I just can't live this way
I know I love you so badly, yeah, and I want it so badly every day
I know I love you so badly, I just can't wait another day
Wait, wait, they come and go
And everybody knows
Where the river flows
And we die, we all turn into stars
We'll grow just like the sun, yeah
We are come undone, yeah
And two becomes one
Cause our new life has just begun
Oh, you know I love you so badly
And I want it so badly every day
You know I love you so badly
And I just can't live this way
You know I love you so badly
And I want it so badly every day You know I love it so badly, yeah And I want it so badly every day
Know I love you so badly
Just can't wait another day
That was Jameson, not brand new Hey, baby, yeah What am I doing?
That was Jameson, not brand new.
That's an older record, but that's Jameson so badly.
J-M-S-N so badly.
It's pronounced Jameson, or maybe I'm just making that up in my head, but beat was hard, record was hard.
Shout out to Jameson, man.
All right, Moe, what hard hip-hop record you got for me now?
I'm playing R&B, man.
Yo, your last few sleepers, right?
Now, I meant to tell you this, but we was beefing, so I didn't tell you.
Your last few sleepers, man.
I need you to text me the names of them.
I need to purchase those records.
Not the Acid Joint by Sebastian.
I got that one.
But the other ones, I want to buy those records.
I'll get them all and be back.
When you get
your r&b bag you all right man this uh this i believe this this dude's name is nobody but it's
nbdy name this dude is called used to i see what he did there
see this shit sound hard.
Alright.
Alright. For a while, man, I think I lost the real And I've been feeling so down when I lay down
The only time I'm looking up
Thought in my mind as if I end up hitting yourself at the dark
I've been drowning in that courage Liquid, my judgment been blurred
Oh, I'm a mess Get you back, I just made you stress Thought you're better off with the next man, yeah
But I can't seem to let go, let go
So when I hit you with that text
Hoping that you'll give me another chance
I know you need some time
Ooh, can we get along like we used to?
Ooh, till we both can't get enough
Making love like we used to
You know I can't change the fact I fucked up your heart
I'm down to make it all better
Can we get back to love like we used to?
I'm down to make it all better Can we get back to love like we used to?
The shipping on my mind for a while, man, I think I lost a real one
That boy Sean said it the best
Beautiful girls give you their best
Believe you're depressed and all
I ain't suicidal
Feel like I'm stuck in a USL of mine
No, I don't deserve you
But until I get through to you
I want you to know
I'm a mess
Get you baggage and raise your stress
Know you better off with the next meal
But I can't seem to let go, let go
So I'ma hit you with that text
Hoping that you'll give me another chance
Know you need some time
Ooh, can we get along like we used to?
Till we both can't get enough Make it up like we used to
I know I can't change the fact I fucked up your heart
But I'm done making up, but I
Can we get back to loving like we used to?
Can we get along like we used to?
Till we both can't get enough Making love like we used to
Like, just like we used to, yeah
Like we
Can we get back to loving like we used to
Ooh
Can we get along like we used to
You got the wrong on the gimmick
So we both can't get enough
So you got my link and fire
And make me fuck with
Yeah, what I'm saying ain't no replacing you
Go to pass, same reverse as before
I'll be willing, willing to let it go
Let me show you that I can light em up
Check your mind, cause girl, I speak the truth
Know my life just like I'm trans, listen
See the me, it's the other way by you
See the me, it's the other way by you
Girl, you my shawty, shaw you Girl, you my shawty, shawty
Girl, you my shawty
You the only one, so can we make it love?
Middle of the night, night
You the only one
Can't nobody do it like me
Nigga can't do it like, do it like me. Nah, nigga, can't do it like me.
Can't do it like me.
There's nobody used to.
You're going to stop doing that shit, man.
What?
I don't think he's slick, man.
You're going to stop doing that shit.
I'm going to get back in my rap bag in a minute.
Who's that?
Let me try to buy this now.
N-B-D-Y.
I believe it's nobody.
The name of the record is Used To
Let's see
Cause you be playing songs
Niggas can't buy
NBDY
Oh shit there it is
What's the name of it?
What's the name of the song?
Used To
Hey
I love when you can buy some new music
This is great
Double click to pay
Come on
Hey
75 is click Recognize buy some new music. This is great. Double click to pay. Come on. Hey.
75 is clear.
Recognize.
Y'all will say he handled that shit well, man.
He did.
Go say he handled that shit well.
And shout out to all the people
out there striving
to get 75 dollars together, man.
Disposable income, man.
It's just important.
75 ain't nothing.
You get a lot with 75.
75 ain't nothing.
But she is bugging to think she was getting that money at the party.
Not while the boot just got around.
Nah, I got a floss.
The chick I'm trying to fuck next is here.
Excuse me.
And you're married.
You were last month.
Right.
Yeah, if I was the husband, I'd be getting into her.
I would be getting into her.
For real.
And that's it.
Until the next story breaks.
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70 degrees in New York.
Cooking out?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to try to
if I'm here. So yeah, that's it.
Talk to you all later. Peace!