The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 164 | "Outstanding"
Episode Date: May 30, 2018Hip Hop has been filled with headlines this past week and Joe, Rory and Mal unpack it all. Beginning with Pusha T’s album review (4:25) which led to the speculation of Drake and Pusha T’s beef (8:...45). Then the guys break down Drake’s “Duppy Freestyle” (30:13). And yes, they discuss and react to Pusha T’s follow up diss-track, “The Story of Adidon” (1:05:09). Joe then switches gears to address Nicki Minaj and Eminem’s marketing “relationship” (1:28:22) and Kanye/Kim vs Rhymefest (1:33:46). Ultimately, the guys predict how they think the “Drake vs Pusha T” battle will play out (2:18:56). The episode you’ve all been waiting for. Salute. Other topics include -A$AP Rocky album discussion (1:26:15) -What’re the rules for dating co-workers? (1:58:20) -ABC cancelling Roseanne (2:03:29) -Morgan Freeman allegations (2:07:42) Sleeper Picks of the Week: Joe: Tyga (feat. Offset) - “Taste” | https://youtu.be/LjxulQ1bEWg Rory: Gallant - “Gentleman” | https://youtu.be/vv2oR5kk7XM Mal: Westside Gunn (feat. Conway) - "Fendi Seats" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40LOfKcwFFw
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gonna slow walk the dog on this one uh microphone check one two what is this episode uh the joe
button podcast episode 165 if i'm correct right no four really yeah god damn all right episode
164 the joe button podcast i'm your host, Joe Budden.
To my right is Maul Park.
Well, just in the room is Maul Park's Rory Erickson and Savon.
Gentlemen, how was everyone's Memorial Day weekend?
Wonderful?
Delightful.
Awesome?
Divine?
That's your new thing?
The peace thing?
What is this bullshit, Maul?
Peace.
But why like that?
Peace be unto you, brother.
Don't do that to me.
Don't put peace onto me again.
For the God.
Rory, now you can, let me give you a round of applause.
You guys got your awards.
You got your awards.
Maul and Rory got their BET social awards for best podcast.
You guys got thank you speeches.
It's mad late.
Nobody cares now.
We'll just do it.
I just want to thank everyone that voted, man.
I want to thank everybody that didn't vote.
I really wish it wasn't the award in that box.
Parks, we've got one coming for you as well.
I'm excited.
Erickson, Savon, you're just done.
Just done all.
We love you guys. I'll write y'all name on it. Y'all can write y'all name on it. Now, you're just done. Just done all. We love you guys.
I'll write y'all name on it.
Y'all can write y'all name on it.
Now, a few quick things before we get in.
It's a lot of hip-hop to discuss, thank God.
I knew that was going to happen after Slow News Week last week.
I just knew that.
Mo, you had a question you wanted to ask us before we start or during or what?
Eh, I'll talk about what we're talking about.
I'll get into it later.
Just something I saw earlier.
Just needed some clarity.
Now I'm a little intrigued.
Yeah,
now come on,
now you gotta do it.
So,
Everyday Struggle is back?
Yes.
Yes,
with Wayno and DJ Academics.
Okay,
I didn't know what was going on,
so I just had to ask.
All stars out of here,
officially.
I'm not starting my fucking
podcast with this bullshit.
I didn't know y'all had
more questions.
Yeah, I didn't know.
I didn't know what was going on.
All right, so what are we saying?
What are we saying?
Yo, you know what I just learned?
I just learned that Rory and Parks don't actually listen to the podcast.
Maybe that was news to everyone.
I don't listen to the podcast.
Nobody listens to the podcast?
Savon, you listen to it.
I talk on it.
When I edit it.
I'm the only person that listens to our podcast.
That's not why.
Well, you have a lot of free time. just i just i hate hearing myself i caught that dig that was a dick no i
mean just i took it like i just ended and i took it like a dick yeah i just i just i can't listen
to myself i'm just weird i don't i only can't myself you know what let's just start with some hip hop, man. I think, for one, that we should start with Pusha's album.
That's what I think.
I agree.
The week started with Pusha's album.
And he made a grave mistake.
So a lot of people didn't stay on Pusha's album long enough.
Yeah.
So I want to give Pusha and his album the proper respect
that I feel it deserves.
Am I cool calling this an album?
It's new albums.
It's 20 fucking minutes.
It's the new albums.
All right, before I give
Pusha's album some props,
let me beef and complain about shit.
I don't like this
20 minute, 19 minute trend shit.
I like short albums, but this one's...
Is it a trend? Because it's either one
flip of the coin. It's either 40
records or it's 7 records.
And I super hate the 40 album, or 40
song albums. I'm a 10 to 12 guy with
albums. 45 minutes to
an hour. I said that, but I still
burn that Chris Barron shit. And I said
just said burn.
Like you made a CDd i'm so trash i didn't know i'd be trashed this early in life what's uh what's the exact definition of an ep is it isn't it to an exact length used to be used to be that's before
they started fucking with all the rules uh less than 40 minutes music okay and the lp was over 40 minutes of music gotcha
but that's no longer the case with streaming rules in effect but anyway i'm just not i'm not
my i myself i'm not happy with a 19 to 20 minute album now with that said okay uh i thought it was
a great project yeah it was it was great i mean it was good it was good i'm a huge push fan i'm a huge kanye fan uh i thought it was good. It was good. I'm a huge Push fan.
I'm a huge Kanye fan.
I thought it was good.
It wasn't like...
I feel like with seven songs, it should be fucking amazing.
I mean, my shit, like I've said on this podcast before,
if that's all the artist wants to give, I'm cool with that
because that means he could have given a shittier music.
So I'll take the seven.
Even though I did listen to Hot 97 interview
and Push said he did not want to do seven.
That was Kanye's shit.
He wanted everyone's to be seven. And was saying kanye's producing everyone's beats
so it's like 35 beats in one month it was just easier for everyone to just do seven as a collective
no i'm cool on that i'll go get production for somebody else i mean yeah like i'm tired of that
shit you can make 35 beats in a month also hey Hey, five beats is eight for three summers. I think it's possible too.
Right.
Listen, by the time I let the whole album run,
shit, I wasn't even done washing the dishes by the time
this shit finished.
I still had a whole frying pan to go.
Right.
You couldn't do nothing and listen to that project.
But it was a really good project.
How did y'all feel about the beats? Was it enough to
make y'all welcome back Kanye?
I think that's what the issue... The only beat that I really
super liked was the Santeria beat.
Okay.
The Ross one was
pretty good as well. That was dope too.
I like the beats on there. I'm not welcoming Kanye back,
but I will say it doesn't sound like he's lost a step
in production, because I think that was specific
to Push 2, which was perfect.
I agree.
But the issue was
we never thought Kanye
lost it musically.
A lot of people did.
Well he hasn't really been
making beats producing
for a long time.
Yeah but I still wouldn't
think he would lose that.
I agree.
Well them beats is hard.
It maybe was two songs
that I skipped.
I don't know the names of them
because it's such a short album
I just let the whole shit rock.
Right.
But they're in there somewhere.
Yeah, the one with Kanye, I'm not super big on.
I think that's one of them for me as well.
That was probably my least favorite on there.
Wasn't a big fan of Kanye's verse either on there.
Whoop whoop?
Soup whoop?
Listen, man.
Maybe we have a different sense of humor.
Kanye, but I just don't.
I don't get it.
I'm not on board.
But the album's pretty good.
The EP's pretty good.
Listen,
I bought the album.
I bought the shit.
And I said I wasn't
going to buy it.
I said I wasn't
going to support,
and I did.
I'm hoping that a very
small percentage
goes to Kanye.
That's what I'm hoping.
That's probably not the case.
I was going to say,
he's producing every beat.
I don't know, man.
Favorite track from me? I don't know. Seven fucking songs, man. What. I was going to say, he's producing every beat. I don't know, man. Favorite track from me?
I don't know.
Seven fucking songs, man.
What do you want me to say?
Santeria seems to be the consensus for everyone else.
The Games We Play is one of my favorite, I think, on there.
If you know, you know it's probably one of my favorite records on there,
and I probably will spend the duration of this podcast just screaming it out inadvertently at you guys.
Yeah, I like the Santeria record.
Infrared was dope, too. All right. Okay. this podcast just screaming it out inadvertently at you guys yeah i like the career record infrared
was dope too all right okay let's get let's get to infrared why was that there let's let's let's
try to figure that out well it's called infrared that means you're ready to take a shot
cut you know what he was doing with that
Alright
Tell me more
You got me
You got me on the edge of my seat here
I mean
He knew what it was
He knew what the record was going to do
He knew what the
The wave it was going to cause
If I'm getting into your
Into your analogy
Am I to expect another record from Push?
Oh for sure
Like a shot
If an infrared is a
Is a beam
For sure
Then a shot is coming right? For sure beam, then a shot is coming, right?
For sure.
And you think this was pre-planned?
For sure.
With the thinking that Drake
would reply as quick as he did.
For sure.
And then Push taking
a little bit of time to reply.
You don't think they're in cahoots?
Drake and Push?
Drake and good music, maybe.
Nah.
They do live next door to each other.
I have a totally different view than...
You know what?
Let me not say that.
Because I thought, all right, so going back to,
I guess the last shot would be Two Birds, One Stone,
people would say, which I thought was about Tory Lanez,
but I guess I was wrong and it was a double entendre
and it was about two people and it was the same.
Cool.
Don't even ask me how.
But that would be
the last shot
which was what?
Two years ago?
Yeah.
And had we heard
from Pusha periods
in the last two years?
Outside of like
maybe a guest feature?
Features, yeah.
Okay.
So if I'm taking
that song as a shot
personally
I'm going to reply
on my album.
I don't see anything
wrong with that.
Yeah, no. That's what I'm saying.
He knew what he was doing.
I don't think Dan Cahoot's though.
Man, that shit is a fucking grave mistake.
Yeah, no, I...
That shit is a mistake.
You talking about the pusher part?
Yes.
And I just need for someone
to explain to me all the ways
that it possibly may not be a mistake.
Well, pusher is pusher.
It's hard to out-calculate Drake.
That's where I think it's really a mistake.
If he's not well-prepared to what Mo was saying, that this was just the warning shot and a
real shot is coming, it's a mistake to me.
I mean, he might have something in the tuck.
That's the only reason why I would think it's maybe not.
Because Pusher is an elite MC.
And I think a pretty smart guy.
Weak and all.
I don't think he's a dumb guy at all.
I think Pusher is very smart. Right. I don't think he's a dumb guy at all. I think Push is very smart.
Right.
So I have to think that he has a plan here.
Well, I would hope so.
I would hope that he's learned.
We've seen what happens when someone doesn't have a plan.
When you learn from previous artists that don't have a plan.
Well, we've seen them all at this point.
We've seen artists with a plan.
We've seen them without a plan.
with a plan we've seen him without a plan push has has has enough he has more more than a small sample size to be able to figure out how he needs to attack that's one right two let's get into this
infrared record a little bit and and let me try to theorize with you guys when i heard that record
i thought i thought Push was getting busy.
I had the ugly face a couple of times.
I might have tilted my head back and discussed a few times.
I was like, oh, shit.
Damn.
All right.
I might have gave him a tweet.
Right? Right?
him a tweet right but when it got to the smoke part well at the end of the record I said to myself damn he killed that but only if no one ever replies I said that
is such a great jab. It's a great.
He didn't know D is what you're saying.
Yeah, it's a great jab and a stellar performance.
And if no one ever replies, it stands alone.
And there is nothing to compare it to.
Now, that's not really impressive for me because when Exodus came out, there was nothing to talk about for me.
I'm telling you how I was received when I heard the song and saw the video.
It was the hardest video I ever saw.
And the song was hard as shit.
And he attacked not only Wayne, but Drake as well.
He just attacked niggas, period.
And he made a very valid point in that record, which is why I start with that. Them niggas won and he made a very valid point in that record which is why i start with that them niggas won't them niggas won't die with you they won't do it it made a very clear distinction
between rap shit and street shit and you know when you're not as when you're not afforded all
of the accolades and you feel like your pin game is up, you fall on that side of the chip. So that was beautiful, right?
But boy, was it the worst time in the universe.
And this is why I don't understand the thinking of it,
and it has to be a mistake.
Which is why I'm saying... They know that Drake was recording.
Now, I will say this.
I was a little surprised at how quickly Drake responded.
I'm not going to lie about that.
I knew that he would.
I think Drake had the album probably three days before it came out,
because regular people had it two days before it came out.
So I think he had this in the tuck and was waiting the day the album came out.
I'm going to put this out.
I actually thought it was even premature.
Who puts out music at 4 p.m.?
I feel like that's wild.
I said to you gentlemen in our group chat at 1 at 4 p.m i said i said that's wild i said to you gentlemen in our
group chat at 1 11 p.m and i quote he is going to regret coming at him while he's recording
yeah it's just i'm talking rapper shit people i'm not talking anything else but MC type shit.
I think that a lot of times these niggas are,
how they correspond in beef,
just it depends on scheduling.
Yeah, no.
And that's all it really boils down to.
Which Meek was at a disadvantage
because he was in the middle of a tour.
Same thing that Pusha potentially is at a disadvantage.
Hey, and wait, and guess what?
When I was bombing away on Drake, I had a pretty good idea he wouldn't respond. He of a tour. Same thing. Hey, and wait, and guess what? When I was bombing away on Drake,
I had a pretty good idea he wouldn't respond.
He was on tour.
Right.
You know how dedicated you would have to be
to respond to Joe Budden,
to get off of tour or now sit down and write
to such a great MC?
Man, get that bum ass nigga the fuck out of here.
It's not an arena tour.
Yeah, I'm not.
Bye, Joe Budden.
Fuck you.
DM you.
Suck my dick. And that's the end of that now uh damn what was i saying just now oh scheduling yeah them they knew that he was in the
studio they knew he was recording and this is why i say it was a mistake his his plan already seems
already seems to be well on its way uh whoever is on team aubrey the gods plan song and video worked and was
genius and at some point will be responsible for drake's album probably being triple platinum
before it's released yeah well that and uh nice for nice whoa i didn't even nice for what is next
single number two all of these are best case scenarios
for the people handling him, is what I'm saying.
Was he a third?
Oh, no.
Just came out.
Oh, wait.
Let's wait to get to that.
Stay on timeline.
So, Drake is killing shit, and he's in the studio,
and if I'm just listening to tone and voice
and all that shit
that I'm obsessed with
he sounds in a much clearer
state of mind.
Does anyone else notice that
or is that just psycho me?
No, I know.
I definitely notice
he seems to be a bit locked in
in what works
and what works for him.
It's not an experiment.
It seems very calculated.
It's science.
Yeah, it's there. This is what works science it's yeah it's it's there this is what
works for me this is what my fan base enjoys and i can also rap really well hearing certain lines
in that drake record um i think this is one of the the beefs that he he's looking at a little
differently his approach to this is a little different oh but wait wait wait i didn't even
finish my point and it's kind of to where you're going so you have these two first the
first and second single and videos all that shit is working to a t i think part of the big reason
that drake was in such a dark place was the aftermath of the meek beef and what the uh what the doubt to his credibility
the effect that it had on him right so if i'm pusha t today i have to know that and you are
the person that continues to champion how i don't write shit how wayne don't write shit it's not
even just me that's beefing with you. It's my boss now, too.
Well, we've been saying it before Meek said it.
Push would have to know that that is the one area that if Drake just happens to be sitting in a studio sipping Tim Hortons and he hears that shit.
Now I have to stop what I'm doing, Terrence.
You know he put the Prince voice on.
Now I will deviate from my new project, Terrence.
Deviate.
You know he says deviate.
Yeah, he definitely deviates. He definitely, come on.
I don't even know if that's the right context.
But you know he says deviate.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
With a schedule like his, he has to deviate.
Yeah, you got to deviate from things. I've seen Puff deviate. Absolutely. With a schedule like his, he has to deviate. Yeah, you got to deviate from things.
I've seen Puff deviate from shit.
So what I'm saying is, let me get to my point.
The one area in which Drake would be looking to fix immediately,
if we're thinking that he's a scientist, the way that we do,
is, oh, we're going to fix, we're going to address this Quentin Miller shit
that we've let linger for the past three to four years.
Even I'm a little annoyed with the Quentin Miller references.
That was my only part of the push thing.
I was like, are we bringing up Quentin Miller's name again?
Have we not gotten past this?
Can we get a little bit more creative in how we dis Drake?
Right.
Well.
Because even when, Joe, we was in all those sessions for that, we was like, all right, well, don't.
Quentin Miller has been done and said.
There's nothing creative about re-saying what Meek said.
Oh,
well listen,
Joe wasn't going to have that problem.
No,
I know.
I just thought it was like,
all right,
come on.
It was a dope bar.
I liked,
I liked the wordplay on it,
but come on.
So before,
we're still bringing up Quentin.
And before we,
before we get into this,
this breaking down this record,
because yes,
we are going to break down this record.
I would have loved to play Daytona, but Daytona is a Def Jam Universal project.
We know Universal feels about you playing their music without it being licensed,
so we're not going to do that.
But the Drake record was released on SoundCloud.
Yeah.
Let's talk about that for a second.
I've heard a few different theories.
My homegirl, Jazz Jazz at the time,
this is before I'm Upset was released.
She had a theory that said,
because everybody knows Drake is petty.
Right?
It's common now.
Her theory was that after the Kendrick Perkins
and Drake squabble at the game
and after the league released their statement
reprimanding drake basically
that drake then released two songs uh during both the game sevens or whatever games those were back
to back to try to affect the talk because all talk was about drake on the nights of those games
and i thought that was an interesting way to look at it. Ice, on the other hand, would be one of the few people to know that Push had a radio, iTunes radio something, to premiere some shit at Friday at 6 p.m.
And then Drake, 6 p.m. Saturday, drops this.
No, he dropped Friday.
Are you talking about the single
I'm talking about the disc
I'm talking about the disc
oh no the disc was a
Friday afternoon
Friday afternoon
it wasn't even on the radio
which is when
on SoundCloud
which is when
Push was supposed to
premiere some shit
with Apple
oh okay
so to get people
off the Apple
and go to SoundCloud
and
if we subscribe to that then then it worked, right?
Mm-hmm.
I didn't know anything about this Push Radio shit.
Me either.
I mean, but Drake does his loosies on SoundCloud.
He did Charged Up and Back to Back on SoundCloud.
It's still kind of his behavior when it's not a single
that he's looking to profit off of.
Yeah, and you put it on SoundCloud
to step away
from your album rollout.
Step away from your label or
your contract obligations.
You just have free will over there, I'm
assuming. I haven't checked that.
And there's also fans of Drake that could give
two fucks about a Pusha T diss
or him rapping in that way anyways
and they just listen to streaming sites
and that doesn't really come down on the singles.
It could be confusing to a consumer
that's just here to hear God's plan and nice for what.
Okay, so do you guys,
I'm ready to give a critical breakdown.
Let's hear it.
On the beef or the record?
No, on the record.
On the Duppy freestyle.
Parks just taught me what Duppy means.
It's a ghost.
Dead man.
Oh, you just knew that off the rip?
I lived with Jamaicans.
He also Googled.
No, I lived with Jamaicans.
I knew what Duffy was.
You're probably stealing mad shit from places.
From where?
From a mall you knew that too?
Duffy was a ghost?
I'm just the only idiot in the room, right?
No, I mean.
But it's good.
You want to be the dumbest person in the room so you can always learn.
Remember that bullshit? I mean, it's true. You want to be the dumbest person in the room so you can always learn. Remember that bullshit?
I mean, it's true.
It makes sense.
You want to always be the brokest one in the room so there will constantly be inspiration around you.
Yeah, I'm not rolling with that, though.
Fuck that.
Nigga, fuck you.
Sometimes I don't want to be the dumbest person in the room.
I know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want to have the most money in the room sometimes.
Right.
I mean, just be able to hang, able to compete.
Right.
What was we talking about?
Oh, yeah. So do you guys want to start this? Well, first of all, Amal, to hang, able to compete. What was we talking about?
Oh, yeah.
So do you guys want to start this?
Well, first of all, Maul, let me tell you the decision that we made for you.
Okay.
Parks is rolling with, who are you rolling with in the beef, Parks?
Drake, at the moment, at least.
Rory in the beef.
Rory, who are you rolling with?
I'm with Drake.
There hasn't been a response.
And I'm with Drake too, Mo.
You know what that means?
What does that mean?
You got to go with Push.
Somebody in the room has to.
Yeah, come on.
We're not that podcast.
Come on.
You just followed us.
We can't look like that. All right, I'll roll with that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, good.
I'll roll with that.
Good, good.
A round of applause, man.
More being a fucking sport.
I'll roll with it.
Just for the room.
There's some evidence.
It's not an argument you can't win.
No, I mean, y'all know how I really feel,
but I'll roll with it.
I'll roll with it.
Just to be the, you know.
But how come if you're OVO Mall, like, we don't ever get exclusives and shit?
Like, we don't get shit from you.
Y'all don't be OVO Mall, and, I mean, it just stuck.
I don't know why.
Can you just give us, like, a T-shirt?
An OVO T-shirt?
I have an OVO store.
Everybody got an OVO T-shirt.
Fam, we're not going to the OVO store.
You're not going to the pop-up shop?
You can go to the OVO pop-up?
I've never said pop-up shop.
That slaughterhouse had a pop-up shop and an ice cream parlor.
You had your own flavor slaughterhouse ice cream.
Everyone relax.
Wait, hold on.
Don't worry.
I don't even know if I want to ask what flavor slaughterhouse was.
A CEO's mind.
That marketing plan was me.
That Haagen-D marketing plan was me.
That Haagen-Dazs was mine.
These niggas was four of the hardest MCs ever.
Wait, wait.
Man, man, man. I didn't bring that up to do this.
They was Strawberry Sherbert.
Was it each member had their own ice cream
or was it like a group ice cream?
No, we had our own flavors.
Oh my God, it was horrible.
You were definitely mental, weren't you?
I was there mad grumpy.
See, that's why I had to retire.
Because I was just angry and doing shit that we were supposed to be doing.
Like, come on, nigga.
Why you got us at the fuck ice cream parlor?
And then that turned into, well, this is actually really good ice cream.
After that, like, four of the toughest niggas like,
yo, this is actually really good ice cream.
The ice cream was great.
Shout out to all that ice cream parlor.
Well, the streets are going to want to know,
did you use that ice cream in your soda floats back at the house?
Yeah, y'all really
made that a thing.
Fuck you guys.
And Maul definitely
was digging the soda floats.
I don't like how
that came off.
Soda floats, yeah.
And I didn't even
give it up with my
other little mix.
I don't know if you
had the Sherbert joint.
No, I didn't see
that mix yet.
Sherbert.
Yeah, I told you.
I told you.
This summer.
All right, cool.
At the pool party.
He got you. Now, all right, so. At the pool party. He got you.
Now, all right,
so Maul is going
with Pusha T
for some reason.
Y'all gave me that card.
I'll take it.
So do you guys want to give us
a first impression
of where you were
when this Dupie record dropped?
Because I have one
and I'm well prepared
to just tell you guys about it.
I just got off the road
off of like a four or five hour drive
to see that shit.
when that hot record dropped.
You can't say
when that hot record dropped.
I said no.
I said when that record dropped.
Okay.
Where was I?
I was in
I was walking in Times Square
and I seen people
on the timeline
talking about it
and I started listening to it.
Well, that sucks. Walking in Times Square really sucks. Why are you walking in Times Square. And I seen people on the timeline talking about it, and I started listening to it. Well, that sucks.
Walking in Times Square really sucks.
Why are you walking in Times Square?
Your mother has to.
What are you doing, man?
I was in the city.
I was walking around.
But go home.
I was on my way uptown.
That's where I was headed.
Walk up A-Town.
Just stay out of Times Square.
Were you walking uptown?
No, no, no.
Not uptown.
Walking to the Bronx in Times Square.
Where were y'all When the New York
During the New York City blackout
In whatever year that was
I was actually on the block
Baby
I was uptown on the block
You were not a baby Rory
That blackout
Like it was what
96
No
No
2003
Oh
Before we talk about the 90s
Shit
No
I don't know
He was a baby
He was 11 then
Yeah it's a fact
I don't know It doesn't change anything Wait Rory was 11 in 03 No I was't know He was a baby He was 11 then Yeah it's a fact I don't know
It doesn't change anything
Wait Roy was 11 in
03?
No I was 13 in 03
See
13 okay
Now that's still trash
That's not trash
Um
Where were you?
When
Oh uh
I was doing the dishes
And I actually dried my hands
In the middle
Of doing my dishes
So I could listen to this
This
Alright
Wasted a paper towel And everything That's my favorite thing To do in the kitchen of doing my dishes so I could listen to this diss. All right.
Wasted a paper towel and everything.
That's my favorite thing to do in the kitchen
is waste paper towels.
So I was in Los Angeles, right?
In the middle of a very important meeting.
You were in the pool.
In Soho House.
So I was not in the Soho House
on this particular occasion.
I was in the middle of a very
important meeting
and boy I hate when you're in the middle
of a very important meeting and your
friends are doing nothing with their lives
so the group chat is just
going to fuck off in your pocket.
I'm like yo, why are these
fucking idiots talking so much
on this beautiful day? But anyway, I was doing the dishes. I'm like, yo, why are these fucking idiots talking so much on this beautiful day?
But anyway, that's beside the point.
So I finally look in the phone.
I see they're going crazy over this beef.
Hey, yo.
The group chat was pretty on fire, and I was amazed at you guys.
I was like, damn, they are holding an intense convo in here.
How did Jeezy get in y'all debate?
I don't even know.
It had something to do with ice.
It was something to do with ice.
Jeezy has nothing to do with this debate.
At all.
So I'm ignoring the group chat.
And then at 3.47 PM.
Why do you have specific time stamps?
Because I was amazed that I had just told y'all
that he was going to regret doing this
when Drake is in the studio,
even though Pusha has been baiting Drake
for however many years,
and seemingly, Drake has been scared to death.
Seemingly.
I don't think Drake has been scared to death. Seemingly. I don't think Drake has been scared.
I think a lot of that probably had to do with Drake's relationship with Kanye.
If anything.
I think it's just, again, back to how strategic Drake is.
At that time, he didn't necessarily have to reply,
and he was getting in the ring with someone that he would really have to rap with.
Yeah, but you know what?
Can I ask you something? How did this start?
It had to do
with Wayne and Push.
And then Drake just caught shots
because he was standing next to him.
We are not going to know how this starts because it's mad
shit. It's convoluted
everywhere.
I still don't know how.
But you know what? Good though
because a long time ago
and this is when we were
recording at the old spot
maybe episode 80 something
or whenever that Drake shit
was going on with us
I told y'all
that Drake and Kanye
wasn't really flying like that.
Yeah, I remember that.
And then Maul came in here
the next day
and told me
how they got a song together.
And then I laughed.
And then we just had a little fake argument about it.
And then that was the end.
And a lot of the fans took that position, too.
Like, nigga, there's no way that they could have some type of beef.
They work together all the time.
They speak highly of one another.
I'm not going to say they hate each other.
They're in competition, though.
But there are quite a few acts where, and you know what?
Let me not even start there.
We're going to get to this record.
So listen, that's why.
That's why I know the timestamps.
Because I was shocked that this happened so soon and that he was ballsy enough to do that.
Pause.
But let's get to that.
When y'all sent that record to the group chat, right, I had zero idea what was going on I just hit play
oh man first of all wait never you start with a sax wait wait if you're at work
right now if you have work right now let's act like it's church.
Just look to your left and your right.
Apologize to your coworkers.
Gunshots are happening.
A lot of them.
Yo, you can't give Drake a trumpet.
I think it's a saxophone.
I don't.
A flute.
Any type of horn.
You can't give him
A fucking
A harmonica
You cannot
He didn't have a harmonica solo
I'm telling you
Yeah
He had
Stevie Wonder
Stevie Wonder
You can't give a light skin
Nigga Stevie Wonder
Harmonicas
Having Stevie play
A harmonica on your album
Is crazy
It's a wild feature
That's crazy
So this starts
Right
I'm gonna Should I just So this starts, right?
Should I just?
So this started with a horn, and I didn't know what it was, but I heard a horn.
I'm in shock.
I still didn't know who this was.
The nerves.
The audacity.
Now I was kind of figuring out who it was.
Whenever you use audacity.
Audacity.
Wait, I got to rewind that.
The nigga sighed.
Yeah.
When you start a...
No, Joe Biden.
You cannot start a record with words like the nerve.
Audacity.
And the audacity.
And then sigh.
And then exhale.
You can't start the record like the cashier deliberately gave you the wrong change.
What a drink.
Nerve.
The audacity.
Yo, he sounds so appalled.
He was.
He was doing something important.
Yeah.
Safe to assume.
I'm just going to assume
this whole record
through top to bottom.
I'm going to assume
Drake was pretty fucking
peeved
that he had to stop
what he was doing.
40 was on an hourly rate
that day.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Overtime.
They got deadlines
to meet and shit.
All right.
All right. Okay.
So if you rebuke me for working with someone else on a couple of Vs,
what do you really think of the nigga that's making...
Yo, my fucking head exploded.
Wait.
That was real talk.
Wait a second.
Wait, wait, wait.
I didn't know what the fuck was happening.
He started with the...
Are you fucking kidding me?
He started that like a conversation.
He started with a run-on sentence.
He said, so if you...
So if you start your...
Let me get this straight.
So if you...
Hold on.
So if you...
To start your verse was so if you... He stood up in the barbershop. So if you. Hold on. So if you. To start your verse with so if you.
He stood up in the barbershop.
So if you.
Wait.
So what you're saying is.
He's been pondering this.
Yeah, for sure.
For sure.
He just listened to the last record.
Yeah.
So if you is a little nuts.
So if you rebuke.
So if you rebuke.
Yo, these are wild words, Drake.
But fuck it. All it Alright let's see
Okay
So if you rebuke me
For working with someone else
On a couple of V's
What do you really think
Of the nigga that's
Making your beats
Now I want to stop it
For real there
I've been asking myself
That question
For a long time now
Cause all these nigg these is liars and
frauds and fronters we'll never know how anybody really feels about anybody because everybody
is making money off of everybody yeah so everybody's using so some things in the music
business really confuse me like wale and atl Atlantic parting ways and then him signing with Warner
which is Atlantic I tried to say that last time and y'all laughed at me while a is up and down
the Twitter street celebrating that he signed to Warner I'm so confused by this by this intel
I don't know what's going on out there but but that wasn't the point in what I was saying.
What was I saying?
Oh, yeah, so we'll never know how anybody really feels about anybody.
I know that Pusha T does not stand by a lot of this Kanye bullshit.
I just know he doesn't.
He can't.
He can't.
But he has to save face.
You ain't grinding, my nigga.
Come on.
Right.
You didn't make grinding stand by this bullshit.
But you kind of have to.
The same way I had to unfollow Sahai when he was forced to stand by all of that Kanye bullshit.
Had to get him the fuck out of here.
Well, he wasn't forced to.
He did it.
Because what else are you supposed to do when these people are the people who pay your bills?
Joe, when you say something stupid, I just be quiet, man.
You can do that. That's an option. be quiet, man. You can do that.
That's an option.
That's an option.
You can just chill.
If I'm sorry in that situation,
I'm just shutting up.
And my album already came out this year.
Yeah, I'm shutting up.
Any of you radio personalities
think you want smoke?
It's okay to be quiet sometimes.
Call me Mr. Chimney.
I want smoke.
I guess you make a good point, Parks.
I guess you can just be quiet, right?
Kendrick Cole, there's mad people that don't tweet.
You can just not tweet.
It's okay.
You see Big Sean has not said a fucking word to any of this.
Word.
Or tweet about some other shit.
Yeah.
It's Memorial Day weekend.
We can talk about a lot of shit.
Hmm.
Yeah, but is that fun?
No.
Not at all.
Who wants to not tweet?
That's what Denzel or somebody say.
Go a week without your phone.
I was like, uh, sorry, John Q.
You're going to lose that one, buddy.
Where was we at just now?
Oh, this record.
Let's get back to it.
Back to it. Back to it.
Oh, no.
Push and Kanye.
I thought that was gutsy that Drake started this record with this angle
rebuking
it's valid
it is
okay
is it though
Kanye has been very open
since his first album
that he does not write
all of his rhymes
he is
this has never been a secret
Kanye is a known collaborator
he says who's right to shit
I don't give a fuck Kanye is not on nobody top five mc list nowhere i agree so i mean nothing to discuss
there if you're not you know if you're not writing all your shit or your own shit well that's that's
why someone could rebuke drake because people did have him on a list before the quentin thing
he was in talks of being a great rapper but But Drake's argument is that all of the pop stars do it.
Him, Wayne, Kanye.
I mean, that's it.
Right?
Everybody.
Everybody has people writing hooks, writing ideas.
Everybody is writing something.
I think what hurt him was we heard reference tracks.
I agree with y'all.
I'm just looking at it from another angle that
Kanye has always been open about it
and we weren't putting Kanye in some...
The whole ghost writer and ghost producer arguments
are misinformed,
honestly. Music is a collaborative thing.
One person doesn't have to do everything.
Right. Which is just a hip-hop thing.
It rarely happens that that's even the case.
It's only in hip-hop.
And it never happens in hip-hop. Where people just turn their nose up at the fact that a rapper even the case. It's only in hip hop. And it never happens in hip hop.
People just turn their nose up at the fact that a rapper.
Yeah, but Drake's was a little telling.
Drake's wasn't on the same level of Milli Vanilli.
But again, like we've said here for a long time,
Drake was on an easy seven-year run of Not A Whack Verse at one point.
That's true.
He was the first one that he
was talking ultra slick i sound like it's me featuring me you niggas need me like whoa like so
we can't hear ref track then i guess it was the shock to it yeah uh we quickly learned that drake
is probably the most invincible okay it's teflon man he right he's up there there's nothing that
you're gonna say or it's tough because at the end of the day it still comes down to the music
well let's talk about it drake versus kendrick i do feel was supposed to take place
but there were reasons it did not occur. And that ship has sailed.
I think that it has sailed.
That is my opinion.
That it could never happen?
I think the ship has sailed.
That's not saying it wouldn't happen.
But that's saying it would be like Floyd and... I thought this ship sailed.
What ship?
I never thought this was a ship.
I never thought Drake would reply.
No, I knew he would.
Okay, but... All right, listen to what I'm saying.
He was saying.
Not in a bad, I just never think he.
He was throwing little jabs.
He kept saying, like, yo, listen, like.
The problem is.
Anybody keep saying my name, like, I got, you know what I mean?
The problem is.
A little more tune.
The problem is Drake is entirely too smart.
We can all agree there, right?
Well-calculated, meticulous man right right the
problem is there's never an opponent that checks all the boxes there's always something wrong with
the opponent kendrick is the only one that checks every box uh capability star power you know
everything it's a perfect match but it didn't happen
when it should have happened
when they both were fighting
for position
then the positions
kind of just
made themselves out
yeah they went to two different lanes
yeah
they could live together
as the top artists
yeah
and we didn't have to have that talk anymore
so it may happen at some point
but I think the ship has sailed
who else was there
push we thought he would avoid
Sean for a little while
there was a
Sean don't seem to want
smoke with any
any person
not a soul
which is why I keep
telling niggas
just cause you can rap
don't mean you can engage
on the no interview shit
he seemed to take some
shots at some people
at Kendrick
which then Kendrick replied
on his single
and then I heard not a word and then I heard his single. And then I heard not a word.
And then I heard not a word.
He's not really someone you believe.
And then I heard not a word.
I agree with you there,
but I think Sean,
given the right circumstances.
We're off on a tangent.
I've done things for him I thought that he never would need.
Father had to stretch his hands out and get it from me.
I pop style for 30 hours,
then let him repeat.
Now you popping up with the jokes,
I'm getting asleep.
I just left him over
by y'all putting
pen to the sheets.
Tired of sitting quiet
and helping my enemies eat.
Keep you.
This is not
back to back
or charged up.
I thought he would
never would need.
Drake knew he needed
Father had to stretch
his hands out
just to get it from me?
And then they brought
the tweet up.
Kanye tweeted.
Four years ago. Nah, he didn't say
father had to stretch his hands
out. Was Kanye's
hand stretched out?
To Drake? Yo, I'm a
visual guy. I visualized this
entire diss record. No, but
again, this isn't, because back to back he got
Meek out of here with like fun lines
that was like, oh, come on.
Is that your girl's story?
This is how calculated
and how great I guess
we have to say he is with beef
because he has wordplay
throughout this entire thing.
He knows his opponent.
It's not he's not getting them out
with the cute one liners
that we did on back to back.
Oh, no, not at all.
This sounds like this
has been on his mind.
Temperature checks. They know that my head overheats. See,, not at all. This sounds like this has been on his mind. Temperature checks,
they know that my head overheats.
Oh see,
his head overheats.
Right.
Why are you trying
to check his temperature?
Alright, let me bring this back
so I'm going to do this.
Tired of sitting quiet
and helping my enemies eat.
Keep getting temperature checks,
they know that my head overheats.
Don't know why the fuck
you niggas listen
to Denim or Steve.
Oh my God.
Why did you listen
to Denim or Steve? have your answer Oh my god Why did you listen To Denim or Steve?
Oh man
Push
Never listen to
Denim or Steve
Ever ever again
Let's be clear there
But
Hey
And let me be clear
I fuck with Push
Yeah 100%
I rap with Push
Push is high on my MC list
Push is probably my
Like him and Ghostface
Are my favorite
Like people I like
Listening to
Every single time
But if you think That I am not here To instigate beef, then you have the wrong podcast, buddy.
Let me be the first to tell you.
Hey, welcome all the new listeners and shout out to the YouTube viewer people 40 minutes in.
But we are only here to analyze and instigate this shit.
That's a fact.
Let's get back to instigating.
Oh my God, man.
Yo, what the fuck?
His head's in a beam.
I was just with you guys. And then I said it.
He said that and I was like,
There you go.
Welp.
I was in the studio.
I was sitting in the studio.
Creatively writing for the past however long.
He just said I was just over by, I just left from you guys creatively writing for the past however long he just said
I was just over by
I just left from you guys
putting pen to the sheets
putting pen to the sheets
is fucking great
but tell me if I'm lying
that's such a dope way
to say from writing a record
I was
that's such a dope way
to say I just was writing a record I That's such a dope way to say it from writing a record.
I was putting pen to the sheets.
I was just over pen to the sheets.
Right.
An image of whatever jealousy breathes.
Don't push me when I'm an album owner.
Oh, man.
You're not even top five as far as your label talent.
All right.
Then that was like, wait, time out.
Time out. Time out.
Time out, Aubrey.
That was crazy.
Wait a minute, buddy.
To say that.
Yeah.
He tried to get pushed completely out of here.
That was crazy.
You're not even top five as far as your label talent.
All right.
Wait a minute.
Let's talk about it.
Let's talk about it.
Let's go through it.
Let's go through it.
Nah, don't do it.
Nah, we got it.
We got it.
He said it. I'm trying to get me out of here because y'all gave me push. Y'all not going to get me out of here. No, no, no, no. Not at all about it. Let's go through it. Let's go through it. Nah, don't do it. Nah, we got it. We got it. He said it.
Y'all trying to get me out of it
because y'all gave me push.
Y'all not going to get me out of it.
No, no, no, no.
Not at all.
Not at all.
Not at all.
Because listen,
let me make my position clear.
I'm only getting on push
because he has not rapped back
and you started the fight.
You instigated the beef.
I'm not saying that you're afraid
and I'm not saying
that you can't rap with Drake.
I would never.
No. Has he been doing a lot of press for the album?
He has.
He's a top-tier MC.
That's why I hold push to this, that he needed to reply over the weekend.
I think that he's just gearing up for something.
I think he has something.
The week isn't over, and we do have a Kanye West album on Friday.
Man, text Denim and Steve and see what the fuck is going on, man.
That's a fact.
What's happening?
Yeah, so I just wanted to make that clear
with my push point.
Oh my God.
Oh wait, we didn't even get into it.
Wait a minute.
All right.
Top five
Kanye
Listen to his words though
As talent goes
Not top five
As talent goes
Cause you could say
Kid Cudi is more talented
Than Pusha T
So that's two
I'm not giving
Kid Cudi more than Pusha
As far as talent
I'm not doing it either
He produces
He writes songs.
I don't care what he does.
He creates a whole new sound.
I don't give a fuck what he does.
Pusha makes way better music than Cudi.
I love Cudi.
Sahai?
A lot of people disagree.
Big Sean?
No.
All right, now y'all want one.
No, I like Big Sean too, but he makes better music than Push.
I'm saying be objective, not your personal opinion.
You're not being objective.
Can you take your backpack off for a second?
I'll take my backpack off.
Take your fucking Diggable Planets merch off.
Just this side has one good fucking album that nobody even talked about.
Wait, time out, time out, time out.
All right, let's try to be objective.
The consensus maybe would be that Big Sean is ahead of Push, right?
Am I wrong in saying that?
I don't feel that way personally.
Neither do I. I don't feel that way personally, but yeah, Mo, right? Am I wrong in saying that? I don't feel that way personally. Neither do I.
I don't feel that way personally,
but yeah, Mo, right?
So that's big Sean.
Are we putting Cudi there?
You have to.
No, you don't.
Dog, Cudi's the reason
why I have these people
standing this way.
I'm going to put Cudi there
just to see if I can get close to five.
Kanye is three,
and who else is there
that he could possibly be talking about?
Listen, if y'all trying to put Tiana
in front of Push,
I'm fighting everybody in this room.
Just letting y'all know now.
Y'all not going to get me out of here like that.
Is Common part of good music still?
I'm not putting Common before Pusha.
I'm not either, but some people would make it.
I don't know, man.
Common's a hell of an actor.
He can act.
If Common is on the roster, that's the only one.
He's a hell of an actor.
All right, wait.
Let me ask y'all.
Do y'all think that Pusha's album is better than Saha's album?
No.
No.
No, I don't.
Okay. No. I don't either. album is better than Sia's album? No. No. No, I don't. Okay.
No.
I don't either.
Is it better than Big Sean's last album?
Probably, yeah.
There you go.
Yeah.
I can't answer that yet.
But yeah, probably.
Where is Big Sean at?
Where is Big Sean?
He's probably making a hit.
He's staying out of this fucking mess.
That's what he's doing.
He's being smart. He's staying the fuck out of this. He's not making a hit He's staying out of this Fucking mess That's what he's doing He's being smart
Staying the fuck out of this
He's not tweeting
He's not in Wyoming
Stay right in Detroit
Sean is probably
The only one of them niggas
That can just tweet tomorrow
Yo fuck on ya
I'm good already
Top five as far as
Your label talent goes
You send shots
Well I gotta challenge those
But I bring calicos
To the Alamo
I could never have
A Virgil in my circle And hold him back Cause he makes me nervous Whoa not fair Wait Right. Oh, man.
Oh.
Whoa, not fair.
Wait.
No, not fair.
Wait.
Wait a minute.
What's not fair?
The calicos?
The alamo?
Wait a minute.
No, no, no. You listen.
You listen.
Man, shit right there.
After that part, I said, oh, shit.
I think I agreed with your text right after that.
That was a mistake.
That bar took this beef to a different place.
He is hanging Kanye West to dry. Yeah, a mistake. That ball took this beef to a different place. He is hanging Kanye
West to dry.
Yeah, that took the beef. He is...
See, and that's why Exodus...
We got to start with Exodus.
He is
tearing you and your man
apart, my nigga.
He is doing the same exact
thing that you did and replying to all of your shit
that's my only problem with this beef is that both of the points are trash by now push says
you don't write your shit i know that drake says talk to me when you're a multimillionaire i got it
right like you're not important i had your mic like you trash now like i need more than that
in lyrical warfare i agree like. Like, it's not enough.
Let's get into that line, though, about Virgil and having, you know, understudies.
That's low.
I think the shots at Ye are worse.
Let's call it.
Just say what the fuck he's saying.
You niggas is over there being creative leeches, stealing from niggas, and posing as friends.
And it wasn't until Virgil got far the fuck away from you niggas
that his career skyrocketed
is it a coincidence? I don't know
I've never met Virgil
didn't you mention something in the Charlemagne
interview about how he felt
about Virgil? Oh no he was very
vague there
it certainly didn't feel like he was
happy for Virgil. Brother Charlemagne
certainly didn't dig in that area either.
He didn't really stay there for some strange reason.
And ever since that little Calabasas trip to the desert out there,
Charlemagne has just been going good music heavy on the promo.
I want to know what the bag looks like.
And how do I get in?
Shit, text me. What was we saying here oh yeah virgil part yeah
this is crazy that you're not just speaking on these things yeah that was that took it to me
that energy that changed the whole energy yeah that says this ain't even rap beef yeah this is
let me sit you down And tell you about yourself
Yeah
This is like
Yo
Y'all been playing with me
For too long
I know everything
That's going on over there
Like
Cut it out
Like
Stop
And when I heard that
It's kind of like
You know
When you in the room
And dudes are snapping
On each other
Somebody say something
A little to you
Like
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah Yeah But I'll say this though You know, when you're in the room and dudes are snapping on each other, somebody say something a little to you, you're like, ah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, it was like, whoa.
But I'll say this, though.
You know, I'm Team Drake in this battle so far,
but he's been accused of that same thing.
Well, I think that was the flip on this record.
You guys are calling me a fraud for my music.
This whole record seems to be a flip.
You guys are frauds in real life.
Y'all talking about me writing a lyric.
I'm talking about how you behave with your family.
I'm saying that he's been accused of the same things with party and some of his oh yeah his
creative partners yeah i agree so it's just it's interesting you know well there's some ammo to
reply with that's true wait because there's much more funny shit coming in this record
because the fact that quentinentin Miller just got the hits
moving out of Wawa is amazing.
Chill, it's Publix.
You gotta always know, you gotta just,
you gotta really shout Drake out, man,
for doing his due diligence.
That nigga got the nigga with energy out the local 7-Eleven.
Out of Krueger's.
Look what he found a new inspiration
that shit makes me
want to check my mentions
and click those
SoundCloud links
alright let me see
what this shit
young Quentin
was in there
getting a fresh batch
ready for the morning shift
I might answer
in Midtown
when they say
yo you like hip hop
yeah in fact
I do like hip hop
let me hear some
you guys got some
I can steal
exploit profit off of your brother said it was your cousin
malice malice how malice get in this
malice See where it's still in. Working out. He was at church. Yeah. Yo, first of all, let me tell you about what your own family is saying about you.
I spoke to your older brother, my G.
Right.
That's always bad when a nigga's-
Let me tell you what he said.
You're not even like that.
Yo, that's why-
Yo, lessons like these is why-
Lessons like these teach you to always cover your lines.
Like, you can't put somebody in a line and not talk to them to make sure you're covered in the line.
You got to talk to your older brother to see what side he's on.
He's on the side of Christ right now.
And I remember that interview, man.
And, of course, see, Drake is good because you're not just battling Drake.
You're battling Drake and all of the fucking OVO fans.
No, you're also battling someone who's been an avid and vocal fan of you since
he was a kid. Which is the worst.
He's seen everything.
He knows every album.
So for him to go back to Lord
Willin, for him to
oh, yeah, yeah, no.
But anyway, don't start
talking to me saying what my brother told me.
That's just the bottom
line there, but let's get back.
Teachers are learning, yeah.
Your brother said it was your cousin and him and you.
So you don't rap what you did, you just rap what you knew.
Don't be ashamed, there's plenty niggas that do what you do.
There's no malice in your heart, you're an approachable dude.
Fam.
Don't ever tell me I shouldn't be ashamed.
Fam.
If you ever call me approachable, I'm knocking you the fuck out.
Ain't nothing approachable about me, my G.
Call it like you see it.
Any of you radio personalities think you want smoke?
Approachable?
Call me Mr. Chimney.
I want smoke.
No, you can't call a nigga approachable and a rat beef.
No man wants to be approachable.
You got to approach a nigga.
Yeah.
And then mentioning you shouldn't be ashamed.
Live your truth. There's no got to approach your nigga. Yeah. And then mentioning you shouldn't be ashamed. Live your truth.
There's no malice
in your heart.
You're an approachable guy.
I would see you
in the street
and easily greet you.
Walk right up to you.
Yeah, with no worries.
And push you
to the next guy.
There's fucked up
out here, man.
Oh, Jesus.
Oh, man.
Wait, it's way more funny
There's no malice in your heart
You're an approachable dude
Man you might have sold
A college kiss for Nike and Mercedes
But you act like you sold drugs
For Escobar in the 80's
I had a microphone of yours
But then the signature faded
I think that pretty much resembles
What's been happening lately
Yeah I was a fan
Yeah
Yeah
I know you seen that video
Of me holding that microphone
I'm gonna get
I'm gonna nip this one out quick
Oh man
Take this ammo out your hand
Yo don't ever tell me
Something is symbolic
Of what's happening lately
Yo I don't like
None of the way
Drake talking beef
He did what me and him
Was beefing
Now he DM'd me
I hated that shit man
Articulate
Yeah don't articulate nothing
Nah you sling
You sling
You the bonnix
And that always gets dude man
Have you ever been in a verbal altercation
And then sounded a little too smart
And intelligent
And started making sense
That just made everyone even more angry
That's a fight
That line makes me believe That more is coming from Drake's side.
That one line right there.
Please believe your demise will be televised.
I'm assuming Drake will be on TV a lot in the forthcoming months.
In the months to come.
That's a safe assumption.
Yeah.
And I don't think that he just put that there.
It's not even a dope enough bar to be right there.
It sounds awkward right there.
The flow of it is choppy, it's different.
He wanted you to hear that shit.
Yeah, yeah, and I heard it, goddammit.
All right, let me get back here.
Yo. And as for Q, man, I changed his life a couple times. Nigga was at Kroger working double time. Y'all acting like he made the boy when I was trying to help the girl.
Yo, y'all are acting like he made the boy.
I was just trying to help the guy.
I don't know, he was just trying to help the guy out.
I thought he was a Kroger.
That's mad nouns.
Yeah.
And let me just throw out there, I love when he gets back into rapping over the harmonicas and horns, Drake,
that he's back to the boy, not muns.
Right.
It ain't time for mans.
I think I like the boy better than mans.
Mans and ting.
Yeah, the boy is back.
Hey, the boy is back.
Yeah.
I feel confident with that.
Boys to mans and ting.
Boys to mans. Mans. Mans to boys. Boys to mans. Boys to mans.
Mans.
Mans to boys.
Mans and tings.
Mans to boy.
The boy is back. I don't know if niggas want to smoke with the boy.
Now, when he and his boy bag is...
His boy bag?
Don't let Drake get in his boy bag.
When he's in his boy bag.
When he in the boy bag.
I want the mans purse.
I want the boy bag.
Boy bag.
Yo.
Now, Drake and his boy bag is different.
He different, man.
He different. It's when he do that man shit
The niggas think they can take him
Come on, they're tanging
I'll knock you out, tanging
He get back in that boy bag
It's over for a lot of dudes, man
For real, real shit
Who gas you to play with me?
Man, you made this shit as easy as ABCs
Whoever's supposedly making me hits but ain't got
no hits sound like they need me let me just say i hate that i hate that i hate that right i hate
i hate that line the same way i hate hated when hove said you you made me make you made me make
another one i don't like it i like that but you can't you can't counter it. Right. So it's like perfect and beef.
You made this shit as simple as ABC.
Whoever said that they're making me hits but ain't got no hits sound like they need me.
What a great way to rationalize that.
Yeah.
And there's no way to counter it because Quentin Miller will never have a hit
on his own.
No, he don't say that.
He ain't.
Come on, man.
Never.
People be getting hits out of nowhere. Not never he don't say that. He ain't. Come on, man. Never, but... People be getting
kids out of nowhere.
but not never,
but the chances are...
He will never be in...
The percentage is small
is what I'm saying.
I see what you're saying.
It's not to knock
his talent level,
but the game is the game
is what I'm saying.
Right, I got you.
So yeah, I don't like it,
but you can't argue
against it.
But this record
is just well thought out
for him to just... This is science again. science again right clearly this was on his agenda let me address every single doubt
and thing that is out there about me the same way every artist attempts to do before their project
job right it's nothing it's not new nothing new on the sun my hooks did it my lyrics did it my
spirit did it i'm fearless with it yeah i really shouldn't have given you none of my time because Nothing new on the tongue. Brazilian, get out your feelings. It's going to be a cool summer for you. I told Weezy and Baby I'm going to done them for you.
Tell Ye we got an invoice coming to you.
Considering that we just sold another 20 for you.
When he performs that record at OVO Fest this summer.
Yeah.
That's going to be crazy.
Is it?
He's going to sign in person.
I don't think so.
He did back to back when it dropped and it wasn't crazy.
Yes, it was.
He had all the memes behind there.
No, I'm talking about when he performed it at OVO Fest.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
He had all the memes.
It was like one of the more talked about performances. Oh, I'm talking about. He had all the memes. It was like one of the
more talked about performances.
Oh,
I'm talking about the audience,
the crowd.
Oh,
I wasn't there.
I just saw the footage
of the memes
and everyone talking
about Tom Long.
You can't add to what I'm saying.
He was there.
He wasn't there either.
You're not even refuting
what I'm saying then.
God damn it.
What do y'all think
of this new response time
in beef thing?
What you mean?
I mean, I...
Like, there seems to be a required amount of time.
If push don't respond soon, people don't seem to want to hear this shit.
It's not that people...
It's a new era.
People want...
It's like, you got slapped, now you got to swing back.
Like, how long are you taking the swing?
Between you and Ran and Jada and Beans, y'all set the bar for quick response times a little different.
But that's because the game was
different back then. And then add the internet.
Well, 50 was quick with replies too.
Yeah, but that was back...
No, 50 just beefed so long
and he was so persistent. It wasn't
that he was necessarily quick, but
he always had a mixtape coming anyway.
I also think that, again, Pusha
is in the middle of promo.
He's doing shit for the album.
But he's still a top tier.
I get that, but I still hold him to a level.
Yeah, I think he has something that he's working on right now.
Like something he's trying to, you know.
As long as they don't take him like a year.
You know what I'm saying?
No, no, he can't take that long.
No, no, no, he can't take that long.
All right, what if he responds on Kanye's album?
Ah, nah. You don't care that long. All right. What if he responds on Kanye's album? Nah.
You don't care?
Nah.
That's not provocative?
We need something totally away from all of that.
Unless it's just an interlude of just you and not a Kanye record.
All right.
Tell me how this affects.
Now, if he responds on Kanye's album, now I'm rolling with y'all with some kahootness
going on.
But also, that'd be dumb to go-
You can't put that on
a Kanye album.
You can't tell me I'm
running behind this dude
and then I reply on his
album because that sounds
like I need him.
So that's dumb if he does
No, but I would think
that that's smart.
It leverages the playing
field, at least in the
area of star power.
Yeah.
Because Drake will always
have that one up on
whoever he's battling
unless it's Kendrick.
Or Kanye.
Yeah, but I'm replying
that you couldn't stand on your own
like I said in the first diss.
If I light your ass up
and it's on Kanye album
and that gets me millions of more streams,
I don't care about
whatever you have to say back to that.
I won.
But see, that's what I'm saying.
To me, this isn't about
sales and streams.
This is about...
Bitches and...
Money and cars. You was calling a dude out he responded now it's
time to rap yeah you've been baiting the same this ain't streams in yeah but i'm trying to tell y'all
and this is just going to be an uncomfortable reality for a lot of people some of our favorite
lyricists and i'm not saying that this it holds for Push. Some of our favorite lyricists are just not great in battle.
That's very true.
I agree with that, yeah, for sure.
I'm not ready to put Push in that category.
Me neither.
It's just like some niggas can fight until they get hit.
Right.
I want to see how Push responds to beef. Not initiates.
Because this nigga slapped y'all around.
Just calling a spade a spade.
I do think that Push has the ability to do the same back.
But it's going to take some well-calculated, well-thought-out planning.
Because these battles, unfortunately, are not won or lost in rapping
anymore right yeah it's everything around it yes other things i think that i think 50 cent
and i'm gonna say this and probably get to closing soon because we've met gallop the
fuck out of this specific topic and there's mad shit to talk about but 50 cent it maybe
is the person that i first remember mixing beef with business.
Like his goal in the beef was to crush you in business.
He brought the numbers up anytime he could.
He brought up the business losses.
He just kept it in the fans' faces.
This is money in general that no one could compete with.
Ever since then, it seems like that has been an important part of beefing,
especially today in the streaming era.
So who loses money in this equation?
And what did y'all think of that whole invoice thing?
What, when he posted the invoice?
Yeah.
Good for shock value.
You got to play Instagram, unfortunately, in these days.
That was petty level black belt right there.
That was black belt petty right there.
You got to play the social media shit now
Unfortunately
I like that he just did that
And kept this mostly rap though
Like it wasn't a whole
Roll out of memes and shit
It was just
Alright here's the invoice
Because I don't think he does that
Unless Push retweets and says
Send the invoice
I don't think that was in the tuck
I think he wanted to keep this
Just this verse and that's it
When does Kanye's album come out?
On Friday.
This Friday? Yeah.
This Friday is the expiration date on this beef to me. I agree.
If I do not hear a response
by this Friday,
I don't want to hear a response. I give
Pusha a pass because it was a holiday weekend.
Who wants to interrupt the fucking barbecue
and go have to write for one of the
biggest rappers in the world?
I'm not doing it.
Well, I would do it.
I mean, as long as the comeback record is fired, then it is what it is.
But it's got to be relatively soon.
I'm not saying you could drag it out to Christmas, but if it takes a week or two and it's crazy, then shit.
Let's say Push tears him up on Thursday.
Does Drake have to reply?
Let's say it's a flawless response.
I'm going to answer you and say yes,
but I think Drake's replying again anyway.
Yeah.
I think whether Push is quiet or not,
Drake, we will hear something else from Drake.
On the album.
He's not done.
He's too calculated.
He's too smart.
Yeah.
You gave him the alley-oop right by the rim.
He's not going to let it go out of bounds.
He's going to finish proving his point with you
the same way he did with Meek.
Okay, we have...
That was a punch-in.
If you didn't know,
we are reporting in real time here,
so we have...
Breaking news, ladies and gentlemen.
That's right.
We have breaking news.
And that was our breaking news sound effect.
Real professionals over here.
Pusha has responded.
We have recorded an hour of podcasts
for nothing.
I'm on push aside, man.
I don't know.
I'm phony.
I am so phony.
God damn it.
Stay over there.
Man, Jersey, why'd you sigh? Why damn it. Stay over there. Man, Drizzy, why'd you sigh?
Why the hell?
Stay over there.
Why the hell did you have to start like that, Drake?
And I peep you.
And I lost respect for you.
All right, this has gotten good now.
When you say you about this coach and this music.
I'm excited now.
The day you feel you can
question me me being what you're from okay we got no one in the cities my
foot you're saying this is not my words any of you radio personalities think you
want smoke call me mr. chimney I want. You're a sidekick in this city. Sidekick
in the morning. Sidekick
on your own show.
On Complex, you look like
a sidekick.
Tell Complex to cut me a check tomorrow
because I made you madder tonight.
I'm going to get you
some numbers that show it's trash
on Complex.
On Complex.
The artwork. That's the official official artwork the official
artwork to the story of uh adonis adidon i don't i don't i think it's adonis the story of adonis
the official artwork is drake in blackface the story of adidon i looked at mall and i tried to
shoot shoot drake some bail and say that Drake is an actor.
So I'm sure this is from a movie or something like that.
And Maul didn't want to hear any of that shit.
Yeah, that's tough.
It's tough to look at.
I never saw this picture before.
I don't know how this picture never surfaced before.
Eh, Photoshop.
I'm sure the original may not look as bad.
No, because then if you look at his shirt
In the picture I think
It's like some type of character
I don't know
Alright Drake and Blackface
Mixed with the story that Push is telling
In the record
Let's play the record
Easy money
It's about to be a surgical summer Chop the tops off the coops I don't know any Spanish
I don't know what the fuck he was saying
I'm already scared of push on this beat
In particular
So
I wasn't sure at first
About the beat selection
That is what you're supposed to do to snakes.
I'm with you, multi, I see that your soul don't look alive The M's count different when baby devise the
pie Wait, let's examine why
Your music for the past few years been angry and full of lies
I started at the home front, I'm on one Dennis Graham stay off the gram, I'm on one
You mention wedding ring like it's a bad thing
Your father walked away at five. Hell of a dad thing.
Que te pasa?
Shitting the side of the man.
Push sound like he's been waiting to get some of this stuff off his chest.
Oh, for sure.
For sure.
He was ready.
That's the answer to that question.
Looks like he left the cookout.
Yeah.
That nigga said, yo, I'm going to hit y'all.
He fell for it.
Virginia Beach is nice this time of year.
I would have left Virginia Beach too Hit the studio out there
Yeah see what's going on
Let's get back to push
Use your face
Let him know who you chose
As your Beyonce
Sophie knows better
As your baby mother
Cleaned her up for IG
But the stench is on her
Where do y'all fall
Where do y'all fall
In um
All is fear
And love and war?
Well, you said my fiance's name, so we're taking it there now.
Families are allowed now.
I tried to shoot Drake some bail again, and I thought that this was disturbing to listen to, this part.
Was it only like that for me or y'all too?
No, I wasn't expecting it to go there.
Yeah.
I wasn't expecting it to, but I was fine.
I mean, we go back to-
Oh, no, I'm not mad at it.
Use condoms in the baby seat.
Yeah, I'm not mad at it.
Yeah, but Hov apologized for that.
Yeah.
Yeah, after he was not mad anymore.
It's different when you're pissed.
No, he apologized immediately.
His mom made him apologize.
He said that was wrong
Dustin settled
but the kids
I don't play really with kids
like a nigga
has put my kid
in a battle before
and the battle was over
well how do you feel
well no it wasn't
I tore him up
but
how do you feel
the shots at his mother there
that was a
mom is cool
those were deep
mother shots though
there's a lot of shots.
That's not regular mom talks.
He shot up the whole family tree damn near.
Yeah.
What'd he say about mom?
He was saying that he parades his father around in all the suit,
and his mother keeps losing.
She's never been married.
She was left.
It was some fighting words, if you will.
Yeah, but Drake Biggs is mom up.
All right, listen, man.
I'm going off to this here.
This shit is going to another level.
I'm just saying it wasn't just a regular mom shot.
You're right.
It was specific about her happiness.
I would feel your push seems to be taking the arsenal approach in this battle.
To be as disrespectful as you possibly can.
And maybe you have to do that.
Maybe his angle is
you have to do that
against somebody like Drake.
I was going to say,
when you're going against Drake...
Because, you know,
earlier in the podcast,
I said Drake is probably
the most invincible battle rapper
or rapper at this point.
Let's really get into Push's angle
if we're subscribing to that.
How can Drake fans ignore what push is saying
they've ignored a lot they've ignored yeah you got pissed on you've been punched in the face
you don't write your shit drake fans have been the blanket to smother a lot of the fire that
has come his way do they care about this they're probably still get drake's back and rightfully so i mean
they're low shots drake but this might be alley-oop though let's be let's be cool for a second that's
true because drake is drake has modeled his career on being the perfect gentleman and while we know
sophie and while we're familiar with the story, so we were paying attention, it was not common knowledge across hip-hop, one.
And two, Drake has never denied this.
My timeline is full of saying right now, I didn't know Drake had a kid.
While it was to us, a lot of people did not know.
People thought this was just a rumor.
They swept that one under the rug pretty quickly. People thought this was just a rumor. They swept that one under the rug pretty quickly.
People thought this was just a rumor.
I'm going to let you know that now.
People thought that this was just a rumor.
Are you going to kill a man for his relationship with his child?
In a rap battle.
Well, yeah, you're right.
You're right.
I'm not going to kill him personally.
You're right.
You're right.
Part of battle rapping is disrespect.
Who can disrespect who?
Yeah, and I don't know if this angle's taken at all
if Drake doesn't say his fiance's name.
This is the problem with this push of shit.
If I just have to throw out some conspiracy theorist joke type shit.
The problem here is, in the back of my mind,
at some point, I always knew drake were to really be taken down
you would need to involve the women right it's not the fans it's the women who keep drake at
number one card blanch status and i thought that somebody would have the large responsibility of
doing that i just didn't know how because how do you strip someone of their
female fan base this is how you do it yeah and this is the time to do it two very well calculated
gentlemen I must I must say I must say that that's what I'm most impressed with this thus far I didn't
think the disrespect was gonna go ahead but I like yeah I thought thus far. I didn't think the disrespect was going to go here, but I like it.
I thought that...
I like it.
This is a moment in hip-hop, like, period.
For real.
This is already a staple in the existence of hip-hop.
This is like playoff basketball when somebody gets fouled hard.
It's like, okay, now we got to play.
I like it.
All right, let's get back to Push. push a baby's involved it's deeper than rap mother cleaned her up for ig but the stench is on her
a baby's involved it's deeper than rap we talking character let me keep with the facts you are
hiding a child let that boy come home deadbeat mother playing border patrol
that's uncomfortable yeah let the boy come home.
He in his boy bag now.
He flipped that.
He flipped that.
He flipped that.
He flipped that boy bag.
Yeah, he in his boy bag.
Man, that was Drake's dangerous weapon.
Yep.
He flipped it on him.
Hmm.
Adonis is your son,
and he deserves more than an Adidas press.
Yo, why does Push know so much about Drake's family?
Like, why do you know the kid's name, where he is, what's happening?
Yo, that's the best thing about rap beats, when you got a mole in the camp.
Women talk.
Oh, nobody talks like women do.
If this woman is disgruntled about this whole thing.
Yeah, Sophie's angry.
She's telling somebody. body son and he deserves more than an adidas press run that's real love that baby respect
that girl forget she's a porn star let her be your world yeah sophie told me she was an urban model
i'm just telling you all right how dare you put it in my verses i'm selfish i want all of the
curses i'm pre-booking the churches me versus three curses If we all go to hell, it'll be worth it
Already aligned with the greats
And on that same note
The only ones I chase are two ghosts
Still giving you classics
That's the only thing that dates me
OVO 40, hunched over like he 80
That's fine.
That's one line that I kind of...
Yeah, he could have...
I could have...
So, that's where...
Come on
Wow these bars are great battle bars
Push
Everyone loves 40
Push is better than that
He minds his business
I don't know if that's
I don't know if you're going to win in that angle
I just think
I just think push is better than this
That's all
I'm not saying that
It shouldn't be allowed
Right
No I'm with you on that
I know what you're saying
He doesn't need to resort to this
Push is a better MC Yeah Than he's just throwing blatant insults.
It's just not even like, come on.
I didn't, for someone who's, come on, but health.
That was ether.
That was the ball.
What was ether?
Mad, disrespectful insults.
That's very, you and your dick sucking lips is very different from you're sick and you're dying.
No, I'm saying to your point of Nas maybe being a better MC than needing to just say disrespectful, mean jokes.
That's what I'm comparing it to.
I agree with you.
Push is also a better MC.
I think there was a more clever way to do this, but I'm not one to judge.
I'm just watching.
Shit.
Keep playing.
There's more 40 bucks.
I'm not coming in on tick, tick, tick.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Over like he 80.
Tick, tick, tick.
How much time he got?
That man is sick, sick, sick.
I got the devil flowed.
This is a rap battle. No, no flowed, gah This is a rap battle
No, no, no, no
It's a rap battle
You can't make the hospital
Tick, tick, tick noise
No, no, no
It's a fight
That's not, that's not, that's not
What we doing?
What's at stake?
It's a fight
I would look at my opponent and say
What are we doing?
Like, what are we doing?
He said it
He put it, Pusha put it out there
Nothing is off
Nothing is out of bounds right now What did dreg say about his fiancee said her name a wedding ring of one
push probably feels like even no wait wait wait time out before y'all before y'all before y'all
go any further before y'all go any further i have been i've been saying for quite some time no
like niggas from a different generation like you just speak in
you can't you can't talk about somebody's girl yeah because the second you talk about somebody's
girl you have just and you've triggered something yeah you have triggered another level in in beef
like i'm not i'm no longer i'm getting on the phone i'm looking for you we gotta we gotta talk
like really not doing that so i do understand that but the caption on his instagram when he
posted it was,
Virginia Williams shall never be mentioned in a song by anyone aside from me.
Surgical Summer, the story of Adon, lives in my story.
So clearly that's specifically what bothered him out of the whole thing,
and he thinks I can put everything out there now,
now that you've mentioned someone, you know, an innocent bystander.
All right, so let's talk about it.
The only way, hold on it the only way hold on
the only way I see
Pusha going that hard
off of him saying
his fiance
his wife's name
is if his wife and Drake
have a relationship
not necessarily
no
that would be the only reason
I mean
that I
I can't see that
I can't see him just saying her name
bringing all of this
like disrespect
but then again I don't know if I'd want name, bringing all of this disrespect.
But then again, I don't know if I'd want to bring the attention to her if that clip is in Drake's. You bring someone that's...
Because he didn't say nothing crazy about his wife.
Let me roll with your theory for a minute more.
If that's true, and Drake is known to have been with quite a few women.
If that's true, and Push knows it,
I don't know if he addresses it this way.
Yeah.
I don't think he's bold enough. Yeah, because you already know what's coming back.
Yeah, but he got the jump.
He jumped out and pushed the disrespect.
He took it to the next level.
Do you guys think this was a mistake on Drake's part now?
The same way we said was it a mistake on Push's part
to fuck with Drake while he was actively recording. Yeah. Is this a mistake on Drake's part now. The same way we said was it a mistake on Push's part to fuck with Drake while he was
actively recording?
Is this a mistake
on Drake's part
knowing whatever
he knows about
No.
I think Drake
is well prepared.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe so.
I don't think it's a mistake.
Oh yeah, no.
I'm sticking by
what I said earlier.
We were hearing from Drake
regardless and now
he's just angry now.
Yeah.
Now it's like,
okay, I think Drake
now knows that,
okay, it's at another level.
Now nothing is out of hand.
And that's why I can't really be mad at Push's angle because somehow he's done what has been seemingly impossible, which was pit Drake against integrity.
Exactly.
Because it's the only place that there's a fair fight where you can almost always win and attack his credibility.
He's gotten the fight here.
I don't know how Drake responds if Pusha's been noble his whole career.
And you got to think, if you looked at the Meek and Drake thing and how much the internet played a part in that beef, Pusha can't bar you to death.
The four or five of us will love it, but
Twitter wants all those, oh shit,
Drake got a kid now. They need those
little exposing things to really be
effective in battle rap now.
You can't just bar someone to death. Pusha was ready.
Let me play this and see if
we can get to it. Stip, stip, stip. And you don't really want it with him. Surgical Summer Volume 1.
Volume 1.
We're going to take this slow.
Volume 1.
That's slow?
That was quick.
That was pretty fast to me.
Volume 1.
Surgical Summer means that he is well prepared to tango.
Remember when I was trying to put this EP out?
Yes.
That was the point I was trying to prove.
I am prepared to tango, good, bad, or indifferent.
I'm ready.
Right.
Push is ready.
He's ready.
The MCs are ready.
He's ready.
Yeah.
But Drake is ready, too.
I'm going to assume that.
Now, I'm not saying he'll win.
I'm saying ready as in he's been recording.
His pen is sharp.
Right.
His mind is sharp. Right. Now, I'm not saying he'll win I'm saying ready as in he's been recording His pen is sharp His mind is sharp
Now I'm excited
Is he touring this album?
It was going to really hurt me to judge Push
If the response didn't come by Friday
And I was going to judge him
That was going to hurt
Yeah
Has he announced a tour for this album?
Pusha.
I don't know.
I haven't seen it.
I don't know.
I don't know yet.
So they're saying that Drake was planning to announce his son's name to his Adidas brand.
That's been the whole thing.
So yeah, he deserves more than the son of Adonis.
Gotcha.
So he just fucked up the whole announcement.
Yeah.
Yeah, but that helps.
That's a chess move.
Yeah, that helps.
That's chess.
That gives us some understanding here.
And also, and we know how calculated Drake is,
that that press release, I'm sure,
would have been the most perfect press release ever.
And this is exactly what is going to happen here.
And Push tried to get ahead of it by saying you cleaned up for Instagram.
Now, I haven't gone to Sophie's Instagram.
I haven't checked in a while.
But when we saw the announcement that someone was pregnant with who we assumed to be Drake's child,
I could have told you they were going to do a cleanup job.
Of course.
They were going to make her appear to be extremely beautiful and presentable.
Not saying she isn't, but they were going to put the appear to be extremely beautiful and presentable. Not saying she isn't.
But they were going to put the spice on it.
The sauce on it.
So now you're announcing a name.
There's an Adidas run.
Push might have just sent through the alley-oop by the rim.
Yeah.
Yeah, so her IG has 11 posts right now.
And they're all pretty motherly.
Yeah, of course it does. They changed that whole shit up. I still got the pool party pics, I think. Of course it does. They're all pretty motherly. Yeah, of course it does.
They changed that whole shit up.
I still got the pool party pics, I think.
Oh, my God.
Oh, Push is about to call you.
Calm down.
You're right.
I'm not getting involved in that mess.
No, she was just there.
I'm not being funny, Mo.
I know.
What was I saying just now?
What happened with her?
Oh, the Instagram.
Oh, yeah.
So what I'm saying is,
I think when the rumors came
out drake and his fucking genius genius squad the genius bar team sat down and and they figured out
how to approach the fact that someone was pregnant with a child so i don't think that this is like a
shocker for him how to respond to it is what i'm saying i I'm just anxious to see it. I can't wait.
Yeah.
I can't wait.
Score one for hip hop.
Round of applause.
Absolutely.
Round of applause for fucking hip hop.
Now that we've spent 84 minutes on nothing but beef.
Y'all thought the Met Gala shit was bad.
A lot more hip hop came out.
We got to talk about it.
Some of it is really important to address.
Quickly, before we get off push,
what did y'all think about the album cover?
I thought that's what we started that conversation with.
The blackface shit?
No, no, no.
Talk about the...
Oh, his album cover
that he paid $85,000,
what Kanye paid 85 grand for,
that caused a lot of grief
to some of the family of Whitney
Houston I think it was a cousin or uncle if I read correctly uh I really don't see what the
correlation was and again more distaste in my opinion yeah and I think it's even more distasteful
when you're paying a photographer you're not paying the estate you're not paying the family
you don't know how they'll feel about it it's distasteful it didn't have that much to do with your body of work
outside of the reason behind her death yeah i didn't like you didn't need it you didn't need
it i didn't i didn't like it i thought it took away from shit but we love push so we're not
going to talk about that yeah i didn't i wasn't feeling that no i don't don't don't try to hit
me with the art that's one of my worst After I go, now everybody want to get disrespectful and wild and crazy.
No.
Come on.
Y'all loved me when I was here.
Don't just start wiling after I'm going home.
There was something.
ASAP Rocky's album.
Has anyone heard it?
Yeah.
I listened to it.
I was just saying it as a joke.
Yeah. No, it was good, I listened to it. I was just saying it as a joke. Yeah, no, it was good.
I ran through it once.
It sounds, it's a different sound from Rocky for me.
Yo, anytime niggas start with yo, it's a different sound for Rocky.
For him?
For Rocky.
I wasn't expecting it to sound like that.
It's not that big of a jump from his last album to me.
It's not, but it's still a different sound.
It's a little more electronic, I guess, or something.
Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
I wasn't expecting that.
Does Ace have Rocky dress better than he raps?
I don't think that he claims to be a great rapper, per se.
Can you answer my question now, please?
Thank you.
I didn't ask you about what he claimed.
Does he dress better than he raps?
Yes.
That's my first question.
Yeah. question now please thank you i didn't ask you about what he's better than he raps yes that's my first question yeah my second question is does everyone here think it's time for asap rocky to pass the baton to asap ferg and get out of his way i don't know if he's in for i don't think
he's in his way i think ferg has better albums has more singles Yeah Yeah I think he's a better performer
Yeah
I think he checks off
Everything better than
A$AP Rocky
I think
I just think
I agree
I don't think Ferg has that
Star
Power
I disagree
I think Ferg is a fucking star
That's not being utilized
Rocky just sold
100,000 records
Don't tell me about
His star power anymore
Well I mean
Rocky's
He's still a star
But not musically
Yeah
I forgot we changed
the rules for the people
we like.
No, no, no.
It's not that.
It's not that I like him.
I'm just claiming
to be an A$AP fan.
$100 is pretty good.
Are you saying
that's not good?
No, it is good,
but you're not a star
at 100,000 records, though.
No, you're still a star.
You're not a star.
He's a star.
No, A$AP Rocky's a star.
He's a star.
I thought you said superstar. $100,000 is a star still? No, I thought he said superstar. I take it back. I apologize to A$AP Rocky's a star He's a star I thought you said superstar
100,000 is a star still
No I thought he said superstar
I take it back
I apologize to A$AP Rocky
I thought he said superstar
No
There's only a handful of superstars
What other albums came out?
I want to take this time
Actually don't answer that
I want to take this time
To send a public service announcement
to nikki minaj i want to talk to her and the barbs personally uh-oh no no no no i come in peace okay
barbs barbs this is joe budden i know wait let me play the peaceful music
all right that means i come in peace and my knees are exposed clearly i'm not dressed for beef nikki minaj and the barbs i know that we have had our issues in the past over what I would deem to largely be misunderstandings.
I would like to offer my free consultation to you and your camp as a whole.
You heard that right.
Pro bono.
Rather than come on this podcast and say things that would make you angry.
Because I don't want that's not my goal.
goal the study the case of Nicki Minaj in this mysterious album rollout has been the most confusing thing to me in the university I don't understand it and I like the two songs
this new thing that they're doing her and em I thought it was a joke I thought it was a joke. I thought it was a joke at first and it could still be a joke.
So forgive me if it is indeed a joke.
The problem with that is today joke equals trolling.
Trolling equals attention and we are in the era of receiving attention.
So it's real tough to identify what's a joke and what isn't a joke.
So when I heard it, I thought it was a joke.
Then I saw Nikki started dressing it and I looked at it a little funny and then I saw Em started dressing it and it all looks funny to me.
This is what I think.
Back to my Wale Warner point earlier.
I think that a lot of the radio acts, when I say radio acts acts that were dominant when radio was dominant are having a
really hard time adjusting to the inclusion of the internet in our culture I think Wale is on
that list I think Nicki Minaj is on that list two people who dominated radio with radio records
when you listen to the new Nicki Minaj records they are still radio records not really
geared towards streaming which is why I think they're having a difficult time because I think
she's being marketed and promoted one way but the game has changed and someone on her squad is not
really acknowledging this this Nicki and M rumor is not the way it's not the way
and it does nothing but make
all parties involved
look away
I'm saying that
from an outsider's perspective
Nicky have someone call me
please so I can
walk someone through
just proper protocol
right now
you push the album back to August 10th.
It's a big pushback.
Yeah.
Especially with two-
That's the part that's telling.
That just shows how unprepared you are.
No, but I don't think she's unprepared.
I don't think it's her.
I think that someone behind her is looking for something
to trigger something and they're not seeing it.
So we keep getting hype about this album that we know she has completed because it's she's been working on
it forever she's told us that her and zane and they're not seeing the traction that they're
looking for even though i really like those two records and i thought they moved well i've heard
them play like when i was out and about and meet me in the car and all the same do i same here but
i don't know what
her handlers are looking for.
Yeah, they might be looking for a different metric than what we're looking at.
Yeah, but if they're
judging impact,
I don't think she's yet done anything
that should be deemed as impactful today,
which is why I suggested that maybe she should
do a podcast. Because Zane
Lowe, nobody gives a fuck. Sorry.
We don't give two fucks about Zane
Lowe Zane when he's high
we don't give a fuck about
Zane we just don't
so yeah just hit me
that's all I want to say
clearly y'all don't have nothing to say
that was your
Nicki commencement speech
well we don't have a topic
list we don't talk during the week but I'm just. Well, we don't have a topic list. We don't talk during the week.
But I'm just saying, do y'all have no thoughts about a push?
It seems weird.
That's a far pushback.
It seems weird.
From June to August 20.
That's the end of August.
My birthday is August 31.
That's the end of the summer.
What metric are they looking for?
To me, the album, she had to play that for somebody.
And they said, nah, that ain't it.
Because there's no way. You've got to take the risk at that point. that for somebody and they said nah that ain't it cause there's no way
you gotta take the risk
at that point
cause those two singles
did alright
you did your whole
Lil Zane low press run
you've been putting
the videos out
you're now taking away
all that momentum
that you had
it's not
you know
2012 anymore
you're not gonna have
the same numbers
and metrics you had
you've seen the decline
but you can still
be successful
you can still put out.
I'd take the risk at that point.
Oh, wait.
We went into Nikki and we didn't discuss any of the Donda house drama.
No.
They're pulling up.
Is that Drake's baby mom?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, they're pulling up the old tweets.
Pusha said he didn't alter that artwork either.
That's a real photo.
Good to know.
Thank you, Push.
Anyways.
Say, Vaughn, pull up the
Donda's House drama.
Let's get into our investigative journalism
and get to the bottom
of things with that one.
Alright, so
that was my problem with R fest rhyme rhyme fest this is
a story if you're not to know rhyme fest apparently took over donda's house from kanye who was
apparently too busy to uh fully operate it so rhyme fest took it over and started doing good
deeds all around uh chicago for the youth uh asked help. A whole bunch from Kim and Kanye
over the years
claims to have received none of it.
And that's the story in a nutshell.
I think they started it together, no?
Yeah, they started it together.
And then he just did it full time.
Yeah.
It ended up with Rhymefest
doing things full time.
I didn't like Rhymefest doing things full time. I didn't like Rhymefest adding Drake.
Why not?
Rhymefest added Drake to say,
hey, Kanye West didn't give us shit for Donda's house,
which is named after his mother who's deceased.
So can you?
I don't, that's nasty to me well no he said
he said he asked and kanye said he doesn't give a fuck about the youth in chicago it's all right
so let me tell you why that's not nasty y'all let me tell you why it's nasty to me rhyme fest
rhyme fesses entire argument seems to be soiled in merit and nobility.
Which means to me that everywhere I look, I should see nothing but merit and nobility.
And in this particular instance, I see neither.
It's too much responsibility on your shoulders for you to be this careless with it.
You're including someone else. Drake, it's messy. He's beefing beefing with him it's messy i don't care how you feel about kanye it's messy that
part is messy you're asking him for money to fund and he said he knows it's messy because the end of
the tweet was saying i know i look away and i don't give a fuck it's for my brother or whatever
now ryan fest i i know him i know him to be a good guy i'm just saying that one particular part of
his angle i wasn't with it yeah i mean it's i guess his his thinking is he's capitalizing off
that and maybe his intentions are good that drake will send him the money because maybe at the end
of the day that's really all ryan fest wants well rory came to my house for my little fake cookout that I had the other day.
And I do have one more really, really, really, really, really important question about this whole Kanye, Kim Kardashian, Rhymefest, Donda's house mystery.
That's right.
And I didn't see many people talk about it. I need someone to tell me why Kim thinks,
because she said to Rhymefest, and I quote,
after her tangent, she said,
oh, and one last thing.
That flight to Wyoming, oh, it's canceled.
And I read it,
and I read it a few times.
I was confused.
And I said,
why does Kim Kardashian think
that anybody wants to go to Wyoming?
No, that's what Kanye's recording himself.
I know more.
Oh, okay.
You never thought about getting a little R&R in Wyoming?
No.
I have never heard anybody say, hey, I'm headed to Wyoming for the turn up.
It's supposed to be lit out there this weekend.
I think that's where the really rich people party.
But why did she say that to Rhymefest as if Rhymefest was supposed to be disappointed and sad that he couldn't go to Wyoming?
Right.
With Kanye.
Listen.
The reason I don't think
Rhymefest is capitalizing
off this in a way,
he's been saying this
before it was cool
to shit on Kanye.
He's been on Twitter,
he's been very active
about how lost Kanye West was
and how he is a friend
and he's trying to help
and it's just not working.
That's true.
So I don't know if this,
he didn't just come out
to Woodworks and say,
well now's my time
to add Drake.
Rhymefest has been on this since my beef with Saigon.
And that was a really long time ago.
That was a while ago, yeah.
Yeah, so.
Well, how do we feel about Kim Kardashian's Twitter account being like Kanye's Kevin Durant account?
Stop joking me.
No, we both said that joke.
I said that was his Katie
Burner account.
All right, go ahead and get
it off.
No, it's fine.
The timing's off now.
You got it.
Well, if he was going to give
it to me, then you shouldn't
have stepped on it when I said
it.
Duh, that's how I fuck up the
rhythm.
Are you rebuking me?
That was Kanye tweeting from
Kim's account.
That was 100%. For sure's camera. That was 100%.
For sure.
Yes.
For sure.
Absolutely.
I don't think Kim was in the studio checking out, checking for fake Yeezys everywhere.
No.
And Kim wouldn't have put the ha-ha after that part.
That was Kanye.
Kanye ain't think we stupid, man.
We've never seen Kim.
You're not worthy to be on this.
That's Kanye West.
Kanye and Charlamagne don't think we stupid, man. We've never seen Kim Rihanna. You're not worthy to be on this. That's Kanye West. Kanye and Charlamagne don't think we bright.
It's fucked up now that I'm going to just add Charlamagne
and anything that Kanye do trash.
Man, the gunshots.
Get your fucking quiet in here.
I mean, if you know, you know.
Everybody don't know. If you know, you know. If you know don't know.
If you know, you know.
If you know, you know.
Right?
I mean, it's true.
My name is my name.
Yeah, Pusha's pretty good at all that stuff, man.
I gotta give that guy credit.
I'm on Maul's team.
Pusha's killing it.
All right, let me see what else is here.
Nicky M.
Y'all skipped that one.
Y'all are fucking clowns.
ASAP and Ferg. Y'all skipped that one. Y'all are fucking clowns. A$AP and Ferg.
Y'all didn't really skip that one, really.
I don't feel like talking
about Morgan Freeman yet. Did you guys watch
J. Cole interview Lil Pump?
No.
Definitely didn't click that
name, Rory.
Who do you follow?
I don't want to see
Lil Pump and J. Cole do anything together yeah I don't want to see I don't want to see Lil Pump and J. Cole
do anything together
yeah I'm good
yeah no I'm cool
on the Pump club
I was confused
about who paired these
I get it
they've been fake beefing
and niggas is hype about it
we're all trying to bridge
the gap between
the youth and
the older guys
and the mumble
I couldn't get past
the six minute mark
because like all those
little kids,
why none of them do interviews, they all are socially awkward, can't speak.
They have nothing to say.
There's no opinion.
Have you ever done Xanax and Percocets?
I have.
They're not very good for social interaction.
I wanted to have an opinion.
So it was basically Cole.
It was like you ever been in the living room, someone left a nephew,
and now you have to awkwardly try to have conversation with a baby
only white people
talk to their nephews
it was like that
it was Cole
just like fishing
like trying to answer
it for him
to get him to agree
or not agree
like it was just
I like the idea
but it wasn't gonna work
can Lil Pump make
like coherent sentences
not really
oh come on
I'm not watching that shit
coherent sentences even though niggas niggas didn I'm not watching that shit. Coherent sentences.
Even though niggas, listen, niggas tell me Pump is supposed to be like the new age Michael
Jackson.
Every three years they say that this decade.
They just be throwing Mike name out there.
You can't stop throwing Mike name out there just so freely.
Nobody's the next Michael Jackson.
Relax.
It certainly isn't Lil Pump.
Right.
I'm not putting my money on Lil Pump being the next MJ.
I never thought Harold Minor had a chance isn't Lil Pump. Right. I'm not putting my money on Lil Pump being the next MJ. I never thought
Harold Minor had a chance
at being Jordan either.
Never.
Even after that
dunk contest.
Yeah.
I got it, the Baldy.
Yeah.
That's where it stopped.
That is exactly
where it stopped.
Sorry, Harold.
Right.
All right, what else?
I can't believe
Push did that.
That's wild.
I mean.
I'm still in shock
a little bit.
Do you think he shot his lower paws?
No.
No.
It's surgical someone.
He said volume one.
That tells me.
Yo, you know.
And he didn't even reply to the dish yet.
If that makes sense.
What's Shorty's name from Scandal?
Olivia Pope?
Yeah.
Yeah.
See, because Karen Civil is like the culture's Olivia Pope.
Like Karen Civil might be out culture's Olivia Pope like Karen Civil
might be out there
getting the dirt
that is true
you beef with Push
you gotta beef with Karen
a little bit
yeah
now I don't know
if Drake want that beef
you gotta get a girl
on your side
hey I'm joking by the way
if anybody
if anybody important
is listening
I love when I say some inappropriate shit By the way, if anybody important is listening.
I love when I say some inappropriate shit and the whole room gets quiet.
Yo, if you know, you know.
Listen, I didn't watch that show, so I didn't want to agree and Olivia Pope be some wild shit.
I was in the same boat. I was like, okay, is that bad or good?
Y'all didn't watch Scandal.
I didn't watch Scandal.
Ever, ever, right?
No, I didn't.
Not never in your life.
No.
Didn't hear anybody talking about it.
I heard people talking about it.
Didn't see the timeline on it.
I didn't mean to watch it.
Couldn't use context clues and figure out the purpose of it.
The only thing I knew is she was fucking the president who was married, so I want to agree
to that Karen shit.
Rory is just now watching Evil Genius.
Well, I finished it yesterday.
I didn't see that shit.
Of course you didn't.
You should watch it.
You should watch it tonight.
I heard it's good.
Phenomenal, actually.
Shit was crazy.
Yo, I had a brilliant idea.
Let's just go through the rest of life off what we heard.
What's wrong with you?
Every week we've been telling you, I heard that was hard.
I finally watched it.
Only because y'all told me to.
On Sunday, I go to give Joe a compliment.
And I was like, yo, man, thanks for the recommendation.
I'm really enjoying Evil Genius.
Oh, I wish you fucking would have done it before the podcast.
I was like, all right.
Well, first of all, you know I don't take compliments well.
I was trying to say.
Y'all don't either, really.
It's a nice polo. Why men don't know how to take compliments? Because that was trying to say you have good taste. Y'all don't either really. It's a nice polo.
Why men don't know
how to take compliments?
Because that's a men thing.
No, it's untrusting.
That's not just me.
You don't know
if this can turn a flip.
It depends on where it's coming from.
Yeah.
Like if it's coming from somebody
who I think is just an asshole,
I don't know if you're being serious or not.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, pandering.
Yeah, I don't know what you're doing.
It's like, all right,
what's coming after that?
Like, stop playing with me. Don't set me up to say thank you and then completely shit on me once I'm saying? Yeah, pandering. Yeah, I don't know what you're doing. It's like, all right, what's coming after that? Like, stop playing with me.
Don't set me up to say thank you and then completely shit on me once I do.
All right, can we take a hip-hop break so I can ask y'all some other things?
Because I want to laugh at shit.
Like, Push got me kind of down.
You want to start on hip-hop?
I think we'll do that.
I feel like I got to play a happy song or something.
Get the morale up.
Change the spirits in here.
Yeah.
Say something, Rory.
No.
My morale is still very fucking low at the moment.
Yeah, get some Uncle Charlie.
Yeah, man.
How come Outstanding always does a trick?
I feel better already.
Damn it, boys.
You can play this when the uncle's about to fight at the cookout and they don't stop.
Or when your uncle's about to have a seizure at the cookout.
Because I ain't going to lie, man.
When Uncle Walter dropped in that elevator.
See why you should talk to your nephews?
Yeah, because you can't die when this is playing.
I don't know anybody that has died while this was playing.
Yeah.
And if you're going to die when this is on, you got to give me a cool six minutes.
Yeah.
Y'all got to wait.
Hey.
Wait a minute.
It's a shame that Push got me having to do this to feel better so I could finish my podcast.
I like it, though.
Where do y'all rank this song on the greatest songs of all time? Top 100? do this to feel better so I could finish my podcast. I like it though.
Where do y'all rank this song on the
greatest songs of all time?
Top 100?
For sure.
For its vibe?
Yeah.
It's top 100.
Damn.
We can't cut it off
before the hook.
No way.
Disrespectfully.
Before I hit that note
coming up.
Hey. Everybody at work hit a two-step real quick. I feel better.
Yeah, I'm much better.
Thank God, Charlie.
Thanks, Uncle. Thank you, Uncle Charlie.
All right, so over the weekend, you know,
Twitter never ceases to amaze me with some of the shit they argue about.
Somebody tell me what the fuck a predate is.
I don't know.
A predate?
I thought that was a DM.
Word.
Yeah, I thought it was like a text.
The DM is a predate, I thought.
A predate is, yeah, a text conversation.
You know what the preddate was always for me?
But they stopped doing this.
But back in the day, when you exchanged numbers in the club,
the pre-date for me is...
The lights come on?
Is the number valid?
You'll call me when you get home.
If they actually call you?
Well, the attempt is there.
So now the onus is off of me,
and it's on them For whenever they're
Available to call me
But it lets them know
I am thirsty enough
And polite enough
To want
That was the old trick
I'm pretending to care
About your well being
Of getting home
Yeah so call me
The pre-date used to be
Walking to home
Ah
School
Yeah but them bitches
Started living like
Dangerous places
I walk you only to here
If she living at Jack's You know know what block you got to stop at.
Like, yo, I can't cross this Ave.
Like, you know I can't go there.
Yo, you ever go to the club with the chick that you try in the bag
and she almost get you beat up?
Of course.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yo, that shouldn't be just common for all men.
That shit happens with girls that you actually do date.
But why do men trying to fuck the girl is going to get them beat up just by doing some stupid shit?
Because men, when they want to fuck, don't think straight.
That's why you got to beat off before you leave the crib.
The pussy is better when it's danger involved.
Yeah, a little bit.
Get the adrenaline pumping.
It's got to be risk in there.
You got some of your best sex
smashing a chick in her building
and the niggas on her block.
You got beef on her block.
Some of the best sex ever.
Public bathroom sex or something.
Nah, it's just dirty sex.
Park's on his white side.
I want 100%.
I have no public bathroom sex.
Jesus.
I've done it.
You ever fucked in a bar bathroom?
The only public bathroom I'm even not afraid of
is the one in Neiman's.
Look what life took this thing.
I'm saying.
I go right to Neiman's for the number two.
Right to Neiman's.
Wait, y'all ain't never had to take a shit in the mall?
Hell yeah.
Then where you going?
You're fucking right.
Neiman's and Nordstrom's, nigga.
Go try Macy's.
You'll see what the tax bracket is.
Yeah, you'll definitely see what it is.
Not so nice in there on the towel.
You're sitting here like you ain't fucking Lincoln Park when you was in high school.
Yeah, fuck money.
Like what?
Like you ain't fucking Lincoln Park when you was in high school.
And Lincoln Park is different.
What's the difference?
Lincoln Park is different from a public bathroom.
I'm not talking about a McDonald's bathroom.
You just said a bar bathroom, which is worse.
It could be the 40-40.
I've never fucked in a bar bathroom.
Park's fucking a bar bathroom and it didn't tag on the wall.
Park's fucking it.
Double entendre.
Park's fucking it.
Park's was here.
Parked.
Parked the pussy. Park's was was here. Parked. Parked the pussy.
Parks was here again.
Park's definitely
hanging up in a public bathroom
for sure.
All right, so nobody
gives a fuck about a pre-date.
You know, I think the pre-date
doesn't exist no more.
I tell you the pre-date,
if you've never met Shorty,
you DM her.
The pre-date to me would be
let me invite her out
to a public place
where other people are
just in case she's catfish.
I could just chill.
We are the most misogynistic podcast.
Let me explain to you what the gender war is here.
Women are saying that a date is for you to get to know one another.
And men are saying, nah, fuck that.
A date is me spending money on you,
so why wouldn't I put in the necessary work
to get to know you before money has to be spent?
And then the women are saying, you niggas is broke.
Typically, they're ending.
Anytime I say so, what now?
All right, I'm broke.
What's wrong with being broke? You let me be, and I'm broke. What's wrong with being broke?
You let me be and I'm broke.
What'd they say about you?
Let me tell you something.
I've gone on dates before to explain why I was not going to go on dates again.
If you've gone on a few of those, you're going to try to pre-date as much as you can.
Because she ordered the shrimps, the scallops, the steak.
I was like, yo, this date is to explainate as much as you can. Because she ordered the shrimps, the scallops, the steak.
I was like, yo, this date is to explain we're not dating, bitch.
You can't order that stuff.
Is a predate by definition supposed to be an actual date?
No.
They're just saying what happens pre. I'm talking about DMs and texts.
What happens pre the date?
DMs and texts.
Maybe at this time.
Yeah, but I'm still, no.
My move is invite them to a party that's already happening where your friends are there already.
So if you need to ignore her or she ends up being catfished or she's crazy, I have an excuse or somewhere to go.
Yeah, solid move.
Then if she's all right, all right, we can talk about it.
You know what the problem is?
And this is not going to be for this podcast.
But in what you just said, normally men recognize that she checks all the crazy boxes and we still fuck.
Well, yeah,
because crazy pussy...
I'm waiting.
We'll be taking this
with that one.
That's why I was
checking the boxes.
That is exactly what happens.
Trying to get us
to be more responsible
than people.
I don't like response.
Well, all right,
let me ask you a question.
And this is not on my docket
since we're just talking here.
What age do you think
you're gonna
stop fucking like stop fucking ever having sex again that is what i'm talking about like literally
like being a hoe or just stop fucking no stop fucking no longer able to as a muscle they got
drugs though the day i was gonna say calls me home i know but if you take those drugs enough
now they're probably not gonna work later later. I.e. us.
What?
The day the good Lord calls me home is when I'll stop fucking.
I mean, ideally, yeah.
In a perfect world.
That's how I'm trying to go out.
Men are amazing, man.
I really don't see how we have a woman fan base.
I'm trying to go out.
I'm trying to go out.
All right, wait.
I got some more questions for you.
What is the worst act?
Cash-apping a stripper.
Yes, I'm going with that.
It could get worse.
I don't even want to hear what's after that.
It could definitely get worse.
Have you ever cash-apped a stripper?
No.
Would you judge someone for cash-apping a stripper?
Like for a dance?
What if you didn't have no cash?
A lap dance?
It was a time.
It seems convenient to me.
This is what happens.
Yes, I'm judging you.
So I can't cash-ap a stripper. is what happens yes i'm judging so i can't
cash out a stripper no i'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure she's okay with that but if you my man and i
see you doing that oh i'm cutting i'm cutting your ass how would you know you would just see me
playing on my phone no i'm saying if i knew that that's what you were doing oh the jokes are coming
so you're picking that one yes all right well the second one one was the little triple X spots that used to be on 42nd that you bust a nut for 99 cents.
That's worse.
You ever go in one of the little sexy booths?
Joe's not fucking in a bathroom, but he's jerking off on 42nd.
See, see, see.
Come on, come on, come on, come on.
You're not going to sit here and joke on me for fucking in a bar bathroom.
Wait, no, time out.
I never rubbed one out in there.
You were just going...
So we were just hanging out?
Yeah, you was young.
You was just someone else.
That was like our first strip club.
Like, you're going to look at us some ass.
We couldn't get in the strip club.
Wait, time out.
Rory's excluded from this
because Rory was 11 and O3.
This is different.
I had the 40s.
Yeah, this is different.
What I'm saying is like...
Never did a peep show for 10, 15, 16.
That was like, you know what I'm saying?
Where you've never been in one?
No, I never have.
Yeah, when you were young and you went to Times Square, you used to be one of the only ones.
Yeah, that was how you got hip as a youngin'.
Yeah, you couldn't get in a strip club to see some titties.
I was getting man change for a dollar at 15.
What?
Bitch, keep moving it.
You're talking about the video choice?
No.
No, it was a live girl, not a video.
That's a slightly different situation, but it's still nasty as fuck.
Oh, no, it was nasty.
The booth is nasty.
Oh, don't go in there at 3 p.m.
Where nasty is human?
That's true.
All four of us are nasty.
Our brains are just nasty.
In Park's defense, he's just saying you can't judge him for fucking in a bathroom if you're in a booth paying 25 cents where people have jerked off.
Sure I can.
I'm just judging back.
All right.
Well, was it a bathroom that had homeboy by the door with the baby wipes and shit?
I don't know.
Oh, no.
That's crazy.
Listen.
With the Listerine?
Although that's probably a cleaner bathroom.
No comment.
Honestly.
I've definitely slid dude $10.
I ain't going to be in there showing homeboy all my moves.
I've definitely slid dude $10.
I ain't going to be in there showing homeboy all my moves.
Hey, you think the fucking local concierge bathroom guy is going to go home with all my moves?
Fuck you.
All right.
No, but it's great because he has all the necessary things for after sex.
Yeah, you can clean up nice.
That might be what they're there for.
I've slipped in money before.
Oh, y'all try.
Clean up after sex is for the girl.
I'm going to bed.
You want to wash your dick off in the sink?
No.
In the sink is disgusting.
Holy shit. In the sink.
Are you putting your dick in the sink?
That's disgusting.
Like putting your dick in the sink is absolutely crazy.
I'm never washing my hands at Park's crib or going in the bathroom.
What the fuck?
You can't put your dick in the sink.
No, I'm traumatized. Holy shit. How you put your dick in the sink. No, I'm traumatized.
Holy shit.
How you put your dick in the sink?
Yo, cause Fox is 6'6".
He's mad tall.
Yo, you are a nasty nigga, man.
I don't get out to you.
Putting your dick in the sink
is crazy.
Keep your fucking dick
in your pants, man.
That's some borderline like
We record over here.
That's a mental issue, yo.
That's dear.
That's a lot to deal with.
Put your dick in the sink.
I'm pissing outside.
But anyway,
back to my normal point.
No, I'm going to bed.
Yo, I walk by the bathroom in my house sometimes to go piss outside.
That's crazy.
That's sick.
The house is big.
You're sick, though.
You're sick.
The house is big.
But you just said you walk past the bathroom.
You walk past the bathroom and go outside and piss?
The right to get outside is shorter than the left to get to the bathroom.
This nigga's crazy.
Am I lying?
I don't know, man.
You said past it.
You got a bathroom in your bedroom.
What are you talking about?
I'm talking about on the first floor.
The way the house is built, it should be more bathroom.
I'm pissing outside.
The first floor bathroom.
That's crazy.
It's kind of rough.
I can get outside 10 different ways quicker than I can get to that bathroom.
That's valid.
Yeah, no, that's true.
That's valid.
As long as you keep some sanitizer somewhere, I hope.
No, no, I don't.
He just doing
He go with the confidence
Nah I don't
He just doing
What Brooklyn and Harlem do
Go right to they spots
Oh man
Yo Joe
Brooklyn and Harlem
Squad same time
It might be time
To say goodbye to Harlem man
No
Nah don't say that
Don't tell me that
Yeah
Yeah it's fucked up
Oh man
Seriously
Not my dog Harlem Not my dog Harlem has had Four different surgeries Don't say that. Don't tell me that. Yeah. Yeah, it's fucked up. Oh, man. Seriously.
Not my dog.
Not my dog. All of them has had four different surgeries, and now that shit is just all over the place.
Now it's just not in that one.
It's on his hip.
It's underneath him.
Had my dog for like 15 years, and I'm going to cry more than when some family has passed.
He's 15 though? That's a good long life.
He's 15. I just feel like
I feel like I could give him another
surgery but you don't want to see your dog die.
You're not doing that.
As someone who's had a dog pass in the house
that shit is, go
do the right thing.
But the right thing is going to kill your dog
yes
it is right
if he's in pain
yeah if he's suffering
that shit is
as best as he's in pain
when the dog is sitting
in the crib
howling for weeks
that shit is crazy
oh he's not there yet
yeah
that's crazy
oh he got another year
before that
listen you might need
to put the gap band
back on
from the top
from the top
from the top from the top from the top
god damn it
yo black people outstanding to make this shit, you're going to be, I got you fucked up. I got at least another four summers to be. Yo,
yo,
black people outstanding to make
anything better,
man.
Oh,
all right.
I didn't even mean
to talk about Harlem.
I have one last,
well,
Rory brought up
an interesting topic
that I thought
fit into our
gender war discussion
pretty well,
or gender war segment.
And that was,
what happened
tell me Roy
with the insecure shit
yeah I forgot
two characters on Insecure
ended up having a kid together
that they announced
this past week
and it had me thinking
what people's policy
about fucking
their co-workers are
because they have to
do another season
you never worked
in the restaurant business
yes
I have when I was bus boy when I was 15 a lot of fucking worked in the restaurant business? Yes, I have.
When I was a busboy when I was 15.
A lot of fucking gold in the restaurant business.
Now, I may
look at this differently.
If you're the bartender, you're fucking the waitress.
Because you guys all have jobs that aren't specific to
sitting in an office next to a woman.
And I will tell you,
I've never been to prison,
but I do know
everyone starts to look way better
in your office
when you're there all the time.
That's true.
So you don't know.
Well, actually, no, you do.
You're a complex for a little while.
And some of them was cuter
than they really were.
If you give it six to eight months,
you start looking a little different at them,
a year come around, yeah, I might try to fuck. Give it six to eight months, you start looking a little different at them.
A year come around,
yeah, I might try to fuck.
Mo, you ever go through that where you got to end up
fucking a bitch from the block?
Like this bitch.
The trap queen?
One of the chicks
that be chopping up for you.
They could be fucking the baggy.
Wait. Fuck that man
Wait
The mule
Fucking the mule
When you finish bagging
Just beep me
I'm all still got a beeper
That's funny
I would be very
I would be very afraid
To fuck my co-worker
It can't end well
Nah
I can't see of a scenario
I was about to say What's worse Fucking your co-worker Or your neighbor Neighbor is worse my coworker? It can't end well. Nah. I can't see of a scenario. I live in your building, man.
I was about to say,
what's worse,
fucking your coworker
or your neighbor?
Neighbor's worse.
Yeah, you can't play
like that at all.
Nah, not at all.
The problem with the coworkers...
I don't know,
that's your life.
Nah.
No, no, no.
HR gave you the fuck out of you.
Hey, young G's,
young G's out there,
if you listen to me,
please do not ever
be intimate with your neighbor
Never make the block hot
Literally
Unless you want to move soon
Oh yeah then it's all bets on
Then you gotta tag it
And ask her to help you pack
Yeah word
Yeah fucking the neighbor no but
Fucking your co-worker right
That would only be scary to me
Because I feel like
I feel like I'd be the nigga
That'd end up cheating on his work wife I'd be the nigga to end up cheating on his work wife.
I would be the nigga to walk into a situation at work having nothing to do with my real wife.
So I just wouldn't do it.
And I will say, offices do happy hours a lot, especially in the summer.
Oh, yeah.
Don't let-
Holiday parties?
Oh, yeah.
That's what happened.
The whole world is alcoholics now.
Trust me.
Every corporate job I had, Thursday, Friday, Tuesday,
there's an open bar somewhere with your coworkers.
In New York, a lot of these offices have bars in them now.
My coworkers tell me, yo, at my job, they just keep drinking.
Everywhere, they go city to city.
There's 5,000 people, they just won't stop.
That's a festival.
That's something y'all do.
That was a good one.
Give yourself a...
Yeah, come on, man.
That was good.
What should I do?
Like a drum hit?
Yeah, that's cool.
I'll take it.
But temptation is there.
And all the necessary things to tempt you are also there.
Yeah, no, I'm not fucking my coworker.
I'm not doing it.
Or neighbor.
Bad.
Parks, you never fucked a singer that you was recording?
No, that's one of the old school fucking music business moves,
is bring the girl through to the studio that you're trying to fuck,
even though she can't sing.
Stevie J's only been doing it for 20 years,
and not one has caught on.
Everyone has been doing that for fucking 100 years.
Stevie J's been doing it on cameras.
And Rich.
Rich has just been managing all this pussy.
Yeah, Rich Dollaz got a docker.
Oh, they kicked off.
I love Rich Dollaz.
That's my guy.
They kicked Tommy off of Loving Hip Hop.
I know we were all over the place, but we were on Loving Hip Hop shit.
I don't watch the season, but I did like her when I did watch.
They kicked her off last night for attacking security or some shit.
Is she real?
And I had a brief conversation with her at the Mondrian in Miami.
She was pretty cool.
She seems cool.
Gave her some real good therapy.
She's attractive too.
I'm the guy that just
walks up to people
offering therapy.
That's part of your swag.
I have never spoken
to Tommy before
in my life.
And the one time
I happened to be next to her
at a Mondrian bar,
I'm talking about therapy.
She probably walked away like, that nigga's crazy. I don't know Mondrian bar I'm talking about therapy she probably walked away like
that nigga's crazy
and I'm like
what the fuck
is that nigga talking about
right
first of all
if Tommy think you're crazy
you gotta take that out
I think a few people
think I'm crazy
that I don't really feel
I have the right to think
I'm crazy
to say you're crazy
yeah yeah
yeah honestly
alright let me see
what else is here
new Cardi video
for I Like It
how do y'all feel
important
is she gonna be pregnant cause that'll be the cool roll out for the kids it's out Cardi video for I Like It. How do y'all feel? Important? Is she going to be pregnant?
Yeah.
Because that'll be
the cool rollout for the kids.
It's out already.
What?
The video, I Like It.
Oh, is it?
Yeah.
Is she a mother?
No, I'm saying,
did they focus on that
in the video?
I didn't watch it.
Oh, all right.
What the fuck?
Why are you bringing it up?
Because I'm telling you it's out.
I'm telling you it came out.
I saw the snippet.
She wasn't showing that.
She was wearing poofy dresses.
Okay.
I thought they were going to make her The cool mom in the video
That's what I would've done
What y'all think about
We got Roseanne out of here
Oh
A few hours ago
I'm hitting a fucking round of applause button
Hitting a round of applause button
That was real
That was great
That was great
I'm really happy about that
for those that don't know
Roseanne woke up
and sent
a very racist tweet
to someone
who worked on
Barack Obama
administration
Sylvain pull up
the young lady's name
so I can be accurate here
so she said
something that was
in relation to
black people
and apes
and planet apes or some shit like that again.
It was Valerie Jarrett.
Valerie Jarrett is the young lady.
Do we have the tweet that she said?
She probably deleted that shit.
Well, she definitely deleted the tweet, but once you hit send, it's in the universe.
She tweeted, Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes had a baby equals VJ.
She said what?
She said,
Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes
had a baby equals VJ.
The young lady's initials.
Yeah, well, that's what I got to ask out of you.
Peace out, bro.
I think that's a pretty good warrant to fuck out of here.
So as soon as she tweeted that Wanda Sykes removed herself from working on the show,
and I thought that would be the end of the fallout,
but shortly after ABC announced the cancellation of the show,
that was shocking to me that they acted so quickly.
Yeah, they're trying to get some stripes back for how they did What's Her Name on ESPN.
Yeah, but they rolled the show some stripes back for how they did. What's her name? Yeah. Yeah. But they rolled the show out.
They rolled the show out as the kind of right wing thing as that.
And I'm not saying that that should give Roseanne a pass to really behave that way in real life.
What I'm saying is her.
No.
What I'm saying is because that's her in real life.
what I'm saying is because that's her in real life
the fact that she tweeted
this so comfortably
I feel she
felt comfortable tweeting that
because some people in ABC feel the same
way it's just now that you tweeted
it we have to reprimand you because you can't do
that in public
exactly
is ABC the same network
that Nick Cannon had his shit with?
Yeah.
It is, right?
America's Got Talent?
I'm saying whatever that thing was where he had a deal,
then he did a stand-up on Netflix and he dissed...
No, it wasn't ABC.
It was NBC because it says...
Oh, no, no, no.
It was ABC.
Anything But Colored is what he said.
Anything But Colored is what Nick Cannon said on his Netflix special.
And Nick Cannon, that nigga Quickman.
Nick Cannon don't give a fuck.
Nick Cannon is paid.
He's not short of work.
Nick Cannon is not short of work or income.
He probably appreciated it.
Or women.
He gets something off my plate.
And Mariah Carey is his baby's mother's.
Yeah, that is true.
I don't know if that's a stat still.
What?
Yeah.
If we talking finances.
Mariah Carey?
Just let Christmas roll around.
That's a stat.
I take it back.
What the fuck am I talking about?
That's a stat.
God damn it.
I don't know what type of money Puff gave you, but.
All right.
No, this is what I meant to ask.
That is a stat.
Is Nick a stat for her?
It was...
It should be.
It was...
It should be.
It was unexpected.
I would have never put them two together.
It was very random.
That was just unusual.
Nick is a real cool dude, though.
No, but that's what I'm saying.
I'm not shocked that he was bad.
He's successful.
You know what I mean?
Nick is top five on that sniper list, too.
Oh, yeah.
Wait, what was our top five sniper list?
Nah, we got to redo that.
We redoing that list.
There was some names on there that got to go.
For sure.
But there was some names that will remain.
Don't get it twisted.
There's some names that they're still heavy out here.
Joe just trying to get his name off it.
I'm not on there.
And if I am, I'm not talking about it.
Let's move on then.
Yeah, you fucking right.
So Roseanne tweeted.
Put it right back on Roseanne.
Yeah, fuck out of here.
Now, what else is there?
Let me see here.
Morgan Freeman being nasty.
Oh, my goodness gracious.
Jesus. Morgan Freeman's a nasty Oh my goodness gracious Jesus
Morgan Freeman's a nasty old man
I don't believe it
Shit
Can someone give the back story exactly what he did
He gave compliments to women
No that's not true
I'm not doing that I'm not going to allow you to do it
He told a woman that she looked great
In that one particular instance
It's too many recorded instances. Let me protect you.
It's recorded instances of him
being a creep verbally.
Like that, who was it? E, I
think, put out like a whole montage
of it. So we can't even
joke and protect him. Either way, why did everyone
forget he was dating his granddaughter? Like he's
a creep. Wait, what?
Morgan Freeman was dating his granddaughter.
What? He was intimate dating his granddaughter. What? He was intimate with his
granddaughter. What?
I don't give a fuck what it is.
Hold on. Let me look at Savon real quick.
Savon, how do
you feel about your fifth cousins?
Let me really get into you.
You all right?
We are aware of the details.
Guess what, Savon?
We're not changing our mind.
You cannot fuck your granddaughter or your step-granddaughter.
Oh, all right, good.
Round of applause for Savon.
I didn't know that.
He trying to save his podcast.
Oh, give Morgan Freeman the fuck out of here.
Yeah, peace out, bro.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Morgan Freeman really is like a nasty old man
separate crib next to the crib so he could fuck the grandma and the granddaughter
yeah what the fuck Morgan Freeman and then women have the nerve to call me like weird
i've done none of this in my lifetime i've never even thought about doing any it never would yeah
but never oh you don't have any great you don't have Morgan Freeman money and Morgan Freeman I have done none of this in my lifetime. I never even thought about doing any of it. You never would. Yeah, but.
Never.
You don't have any grandkids.
You don't have Morgan Freeman money and you don't have grandkids.
Yeah, but still, it's like, what the.
You have kids, period.
That's nasty.
All right, so Morgan Freeman has issued a statement.
And if you guys have a minute, I would like to read it to you if he put it in
audio version i think we'd be on his side he should have recorded it that's what i'm saying
i got to get him and james earl jones out of here so i could be the new voiceover guy let's hear it
all right here we go morgan freeman says and i quote damn now i feel guilty for
i used to want morgan fre Freeman's voice as my GPS.
I still want Morgan Freeman's voice as my GPS.
Nah, I shouldn't have you going to the, to your granddaughter's house.
Let's just do the podcast for free forever.
All right, here we go.
Morgan Freeman says, and I quote, I am devastated that 80 years of my life is at risk of being undermined.
In the blink of an eye by Thursday's media reports.
He's only 80?
Nah, that's his industry age.
That's his rapper age.
That's how old he was when Shawshank came out.
He's 80 in dog years.
Hey, let me give you a little drum hit.
That was a good one.
Oh, come on. Turn the drum hit up all right all victims of assault and harassment deserve to be heard
and we need to listen to them thanks morgan but it is not right to equate horrific incidents of
sexual assault with misplaced compliments or humor.
I admit that I am someone who feels the need to try to make women and men feel appreciated and at ease around me.
Let's pause for a second.
Why is Morgan Freeman trying to make women and men feel at ease around him?
He's a creep.
He's nasty.
All right, let's get back to it.
As a part of that,
I would often try to joke with and compliment women in what I thought was a
lighthearted and humorous way. Let me interject to say that I think E or E.T. or one of them somewhere has a clip of a young lady sitting down across from Morgan Freeman in a dress.
And Morgan Freeman commenting about how it's interesting that young women sit across from him wearing dresses with barely anything covering
between their knees and their vagina that's out it's doc he said it it's it's out it's on its
video the thing is a creep you're not you're nasty morgan morgan is nasty i never trusted his freckles
his freckles were different than other people's freckles. He says, clearly, I was not always coming across the way I intended.
And that is why I apologize Thursday and will continue to apologize to anyone I might have upset, however, unintentionally.
But I also want to be clear. I did not create unsafe work environments.
I did not create unsafe work environments.
I did not assault women.
I did not offer employment or advancement in exchange for sex.
Any suggestion that I did so is completely false.
End quote.
That sounds exactly to me like a nasty pervert creep.
Listen, if he would have done that in the audio version, I would have believed him.
You cannot sleep with your granddaughter and issue this type of statement.
You can't sleep with your granddaughter.
He never denied that.
Now, Morgan Freeman is still working.
Are you taking shit off Netflix yet?
No, he hasn't gone through that yet.
I assume it's coming this week
yeah it's coming
listen man
see ya buddy
if they take
lean on me off
Netflix
I'm gonna be mad
do you watch it often
hmm
do you watch
lean on me often
yeah
every chance I get
it's one of my
favorite movies
14 women come forward
man you did that shit
it's hard to say.
You know how long two weeks is?
Yeah, that's crazy.
14 days.
That's a lot of testimony.
That's a lot of people.
Yeah.
Sorry, Morgan.
You're done, kiddo.
Yeah.
He had a hell of a run.
He lived to be 200.
Listen, as Bill Burr says,
you can live too long.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This one hurts.
They can know these niggas out here. Fuck these niggas. Yeah. This one hurts. They can know
all these niggas out here.
Fuck these niggas.
Yeah.
But oh well.
Morgan, you're out of here.
And you fucked the girl
to be bad enough.
He had a long career.
He was here for a while.
Like 150 years.
All right, now I just
Now I just got to worry
about James Earl Jones
and I'll get my voice out there.
James Earl Jones.
Got him coming to the podium next.
I'm just saying,
there's only two niggas
that got the voice game on lock.
Chill, man.
Knock on wood.
I want to get out there
and have you ever heard
or whatever the fuck
you're talking about.
The guy from
Keeping It Real Goes Wrong
from Chappelle's show,
he was in,
what was his name?
He's in Mad Movies.
I need more than that.
Yeah.
Donnell Rawlings.
No. I don't think he's a voice actor. What was his name? He was in mad movies. I need more than that. Yeah. Donnell Rawlings. No.
I don't think he's the voiceover.
What was his name?
He was in mad movies.
Parks would be a great taboo player.
Charlie Murphy?
Oh, wait, no.
Here's a question that they asked during the cookout that I thought was interesting,
and I'll just ask you guys.
Jodeci versus New Edition.
I hate getting caught up in those R&B group battles,
but I thought that this was a pretty fair question.
My answer was which New Edition?
Yeah, I was about to say.
And then Rory just said whatever New Edition.
No, I said their whole discography, both.
With Johnny, with Bobby, New Edition as a whole.
Which is a cheat code.
You can't say both because those are two totally different discography.
New Edition is more impactful, I think.
Yeah.
New Edition.
But I also hate that argument, too.
Because it's like, yeah, KRS-One fathered shit, but I don't put...
It's not my top five.
They also have jams, though.
Well, I said New Edition.
Yeah, New Edition, probably.
I would say.
I was by myself.
Everyone else said Jodeci Nah
So
Because New Edition
I think it was
They made so many
Different types of music
Yeah they went from
Kitty popcorn shit
To all the way
Yeah like it was
It was the dance
You know they would
They were dancing
They were rapping
They were singing
They were doing jack swings
They were way more talented
Than Jodeci.
They did a lot of range.
Damn.
Yeah.
Where were y'all on Monday when I was getting killed?
No, no addition to the show.
That nigga said they were way more talented than Jodeci.
Yeah, I mean, as a group, I'm not talking about as songwriters.
Let's see if you feel that way after the biopic.
I mean.
Jodeci, you know how these kids feel about biopics.
Yeah, no. It changes everything. Yeah, it changes everything. I'm just talking as far. You know how these kids feel about biopics. Yeah, no.
It changes everything.
Yeah, it changes everything.
I'm just talking as far as the group, as far as music.
I'm not talking about anything else other than the group and their talents.
All right.
Jodeci kind of started, well, I don't know if started, but the Thug NB shit, which I
wish would come back.
Not gang banging R&B, but like Thug NB.
Like just a lot of leather.
Yeah.
I would snuff push if you started talking about my mom and all this shit. I'm a lot of leather. Yeah. I would snuff push
if he started talking
about my mom
and all this shit.
I'm not off of that.
I can't believe it.
My head would be
exploding.
My head is
I can't get off
of this thing.
I'm pretty sure
Drake feels the same way
right now.
Well when I heard
Drake's reply
my head was exploding
so I DM'd him.
I said shit.
He said shrugs.
Wait, he said shrugs?
Or something shrug emoji?
No, it was the shrug emoji.
Was it the actual emoji or the old school one where it's like parentheses and all that shit?
No, no, it was the guy.
Was it yellow or was it black?
Do it.
Huh?
Do it.
Do it.
What's up? What's up What's up my nigga
I mean whatever
Any nigga that does this
I like my chances
Any nigga that does this
I like my chances
I'm telling you what Drake did
I know but
It was an emoji like this
I know yeah
But don't do that again
In my presence
You asked me to do it
I wanted to see
If you was gonna really do it
Both y'all got your
Athletic bathing suits on today
Y'all came to scrap
Okay get your shit on bro I'm just I'm just saying It could happen do it. Both y'all got your athletic bathing suits on today. Y'all came to scrap.
Okay, get your shit over.
I'm just saying. It could happen.
Y'all in the spirits to do it.
It's going to be mad scuff. Athletic bathing suits.
It's going to be mad scuff knees.
Mad scuff knees.
All right. New question for you guys.
Now that I've had a little bit of time to think about this.
The artwork for the Drake disc from Pusha is blackface, and he's a Kanye artist.
This is getting confusing to me.
It's going to be an interesting thing to watch play out.
Yeah, but I don't want to hear a rap beef embroiled in double standards.
You're signed to blackface.
You are actively signed to blackface and you are taking instruction from blackface.
You can call it performance art if you want.
I'm calling it what the fuck it is, which is blackface.
Now, that don't mean that Drake could not be blackface too
but
I don't know
this is a different beef
it's gonna be real interesting to play out
predict the beef
to me and let's get out of here
well on that specific topic
we've only spent 90 hours on it
who comes out of this alive
this is a real bad time for all these accusations uh on both sides not really for push i guess
because he dropped his album already push was going to do his 60 000 no matter what
didn't change a thing i think uh drake's in for a tough double-headed monster
pause but drake's. But Drake's numbers...
If Scorpion's good, though, it's not going to matter.
All this goes away if Scorpion is great.
And that's where I'm going to just disagree maybe a little bit, Rory,
because I agree with you.
But what if Kanye and all that shit is good, too?
I'm not going to listen to Kanye shit, so I wouldn't know.
I agree.
But I do think that Push and Kanye have some type of double team pause, a plant for Drake.
This freestyle over that beat with these accusations, you don't make these accusations, these claims without being prepared to go further.
There's one thing I'm thinking about through all of this.
I'm afraid that through this, we're going to see how the industry, rappers, certain producers really feel about Drake.
Well, I think we're going to find out who really likes Drake as a person and who's ready to get him the fuck out of here.
We haven't been found that out?
Not really.
I think this is going to be very apparent.
I'm not sure that he's got boy wonder in 40.
I'm not sure that he needs, what does he need?
I'm not saying Drake needs, I'm just saying.
People that you see Drake with at times, hanging out, done records with, verses here. Well, we know some niggas don't fuck with Drake, they claim to.
And I think this is, we're going to see that, but I think Drake
is way too calculated, man.
I don't see him
not coming out of this
looking good.
Like, I think he's
going to be just fine.
He's way too calculated.
I think he secretly
has walked around
and he knows that people
don't really fuck with him
like that.
So I think he's prepared
for everybody to jump out
of somewhere
and come at him.
Yeah, I think his popularity prepared for everybody to jump out of somewhere and come at him yeah I think his popularity
no matter what
if the music stays consistent
he'll have no problems
we all might still remember
Drake taking an L
in a battle
but then also
people are going to say
it was Pusha T though
right
that's another thing
that the fallback will be
alright but it was Pusha T
you can lose the fight
and win the war
they said that about Joe Budden
because Joe Budden was too nice
and too insignificant,
and he's too smart.
I'm not even saying that insignificant shit.
Those are three too many twos.
Well, you can't say that about Push
because he's next to someone
who's dominant in music,
which is Kanye.
That's why Push dodges
a lot of the irrelevant, insignificant shit
because his camp is not.
Yeah, of course.
Right.
And a lot of our favorite parts of Kanye's music is not yeah of course right and a lot of
our favorite parts of kanye's music as of late have been when pusher comes on but you can only
beat drake i've been saying this for a while and i think you can only beat him in totality
so while many people in hip-hop would say that drake lost the meek battle the after effects that all of the meek allegations left on drake probably helped in the war
then drake and me go back and forth for a second now there's push there's probably we could probably
think of 15 rappers that could beat drake i mean and the perception that comes with drake
maybe not one that could beat him and what i'm just saying, when you have to think of all the different areas that Drake is dominant in,
it goes back to checking off all of the boxes that I was talking about earlier.
So we could think of a group of rappers that could probably attack him at different times
and do some shit like the Avengers with Thanos, right?
It's going to be pretty tough to think of one person that could do any damage to his career.
Yeah, I think that this one, you know, with Push,
it definitely has put a different lens on Drake at the moment.
But let's get to the business for two seconds,
and this is all just hypothesizing.
two seconds and this is all hyper i mean this is all just hypothesizing um i like the way that that everything is intermingled and what i mean is drake and jay throw subs at each other for
however long while drake is with apple, Hov is with Tidal.
Kanye comes in and basically spills the beans
saying that Apple needs
to cut a check to Tidal,
which said to me
that Tidal was negotiating
with Apple to be bought out,
which further explained to me
why Drake and Hov
were throwing subs for so long.
Now here we are,
Drake and Push, and I won't waste everybody's time but
same beef same beef all intermingled just another participant taking the stand and telling their
version of what what took place so this beef is interesting to me because like maul said people
will have to be true to their alliances and true to who they're not aligned with like you will have to showcase that we'll have to see it
you can't hide behind it in this particular beef yeah that's why that's that's the one thing i'm
looking forward to because i i just it just feels like this is where it's headed you know i mean
like people are going to get pulled into this. Names are going to start being thrown around.
I mean, what pushed his response
was he took it to the
next level of disrespect, probably
the highest level of disrespect.
And now it's on
Drake.
I think he's way too calculated
and way too
his ability.
You have him addressing this win this week?
For sure.
Parks?
Yeah.
Rory?
Yeah.
The next 24 hours, possibly.
I say Friday, he replies.
Savant?
Same time he did the last one.
This week?
Yeah.
I'm in as well.
I'm in as well.
I got Saturday afternoon
Roots picnic
Is Saturday afternoon as well
Which I'm gonna go to
I'm supposed to go
He invited me
Oh you're going
I'll see you there
I'm supposed to go
Okay
He invited me
Oh we could carpool
I'm not carpooling with you
Don't carpool at 38
You can use the carpool lane though
I'm done with you Rory
Save gas
Relax TLC
Come in like DMX
Alright real quick
A couple of quick tidbits
Before we get the fuck out of here
Bryson Tiller says that
He's got a new album
Coming this summer
And it's gonna sound more
Like the summertime
Cause he's happy
And in a summertime mode
Neat
Good for Bryson I hope it's good I hope it's not just a remake is going to sound more like the summertime because he's happy and in a summertime mode. Neat.
Good for Bryson.
I hope it's good.
I hope it's not just a remake of all the summer records that Drake sings on.
If it's not good, we can wrap him up.
Right?
We can put him in Rice.
I mean, I hate to say it.
Because Bryson's on RCA, right?
I like him, too.
But RCA is chock full of nothing but R&B talent that's winning.
Yeah.
Bryson cannot afford two duds back-to-back on RCA.
They'll cut their ties, cut their losses.
Absolutely, yeah.
But we're rooting for him, so good luck to Bryson.
I wonder who he's working with.
Boy Wonder, I'm sure.
Okay.
Because I was curious.
I wonder how their music relationship was after that.
I wonder if Bryson Regret's not signing OVO.
I still think it was a better move going with RCA.
Marlon, I'm going to ask you where Party is every week.
Why?
Because I'm a Party fan, and I would like to hear new music from Party.
I don't know where Party is.
Somewhere right in some hits.
I'm going to text Party.
You're going to text? I'm going to text Party. King Lo in... I'm a text party. You don't text?
I'm a text party.
King Lose is...
Industry, man.
I like it.
No, I like it.
I'm not industry, man.
Don't do that.
I think it's good that you're reaching out.
I want to make sure he's all right.
We ain't heard a song.
We ain't heard an interview.
We ain't heard shit.
We ain't heard nothing.
No news is good news sometimes.
He's probably working.
King Lose is battling.
That is all I have to say there.
I don't know who he's battling.
That ain't going to be good for somebody.
But yeah, I would assume that it's going to be bad for somebody.
Los has been wanting to do this for a few years.
I know he told me this in 2013, 14.
So somebody's got a long day ahead of them.
Yeah.
And Banks made some mention of wanting to battle rap.
I don't know how that would go
just because Banks is so dope of a studio rapper.
He's so reserved and not animated.
Yeah, he ain't about to get all into the theatrics
and all of that.
Everyone's going to have to be really quiet
to hear his verse.
That's pretty funny.
I think that was it for the tidbits.
Oh, the finals.
Yeah, they're here.
Maul, let's say...
What happened to LeBron?
Maul, yeah, come on, Maul.
Let's say if LeBron does pull this off, hypothetically,
I don't care if you don't think he can,
are you revisiting that conversation
of where LeBron is in that top three?
No.
If he wins against the Golden State Warriors
with this team, no.
Maul hanging around too many NBA players,
which is the only reason he in there talking about Kareem.
I think Maul didn't even have LeBron in his top three.
I'm not putting Kareem ahead of LeBron.
I'm just not doing it.
I get the sky hook.
I saw the headband.
It was iconic.
And the dragon.
Not doing it.
No, the whole thing came from people just,
I'm just tired of people saying he's better than Mike.
I don't get how people feel like that.
All right, well, give me your thoughts on this final.
I don't care about that.
Thoughts on who's going to win?
Golden State.
Just your thoughts, period.
It's the fourth time we're seeing it.
Yeah, fourth time we're seeing it.
What are you expecting?
You expecting something new, something different?
Nah, it's Golden State.
Iguodala's not there.
Does it matter?
How many games?
Five.
I got Golden State in six.
Nah, the NBA is not letting this end in five.
It's going seven.
Six or seven. No.
Listen, I said the same thing when LeBron won it that year.
But it went six last year?
I was going to say, it might have went five last year.
That was a quick wrap-up. It went five last year? Yeah, and to say, it might have went five last year. That was a quick wrap-up.
It went five last year?
Yeah, and that's because Kyrie was out there bowling.
He doesn't have that luxury.
Last year, Golden State looked amazing.
This year, they don't look that good.
And how does Cleveland look this year?
Horrible.
Right.
But LeBron looks...
LeBron looks like a robot.
One of the greatest ever.
But I don't think that they...
Seven?
I just think Adam Silver is going to make this thing Go to six or seven
He can try it
We're not ending in five
He can try it
But you can't stop that ball
From going through the hoop
You've been wrong all playoffs
No I haven't
You had LeBron losing every round
I had them losing
Definitely had them losing
Toronto
And Boston
And who they play in the first round
Indiana
Indiana You had them losing I said if I said if he loses that Toronto and Boston. And who they play in the first round? Indiana.
You had to lose that one.
I said if he loses that.
A lot of people had the Pacers beating the Cavs. That wasn't like a hot take.
Bria fucked that one up.
I don't know what Bria did.
Bria was supposed to bring it home.
Yeah, but I think this is five.
Hey, real quick. Now that we on it, we getting out of here soon, Yeah but I think This is five Five again
Hey real quick
Now that we on it
We getting out of here soon
But I ain't gonna lie man
Let me get a round of applause
There's a few of y'all
Y'all ladies out there
That got y'all summer lipo going
A few niggas too
Just keeping it real
I thought it was
Keep it real Wednesdays
I mean
It's not keep it real Wednesdays
It's Tuesday
Well it's Wednesday
When it comes out
Yeah
My niggas out there
Getting that shit done
Kanye just told us he did
You think he's the only one
You think he's the first
You think he broke the mold
No he's not the first
He didn't break the mold
Yeah
Niggas is getting
They summer body
That was a double entendre too
Niggas is definitely
Getting they summer body
He was molded
For real
Anyways
That's it
All that molded
Break the mold shit
Let's just get some gab in
And ease the style
Let's leave
Leave on a right note here.
I do want to read this little excerpt from Medium,
who wrote a really fantastic article about our podcast,
but I do just want to touch on this one paragraph
that I think we should change to our bio.
No, we're not.
Each episode, there's a rough list of topics
Budden leads them through,
but there's no pre-production meetings
and no one does any research.
As a result,
some segments are four grown men
turning aggressively loud and wrong
without basic facts
a simple Google search could clear up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the premise of our podcast.
She hit that on the head.
That was great writing.
Yeah, no.
I want to hire her for future work.
I like it
I want her to write us up again
yeah I think that's going to be
the new description
on SoundCloud
and
you didn't
we don't have the young lady's name
right in front of us
but I tweeted her
shout out to her
this was an amazingly
written article
one
partly because I'm a narcissist
but
it was a great article
and
two
that's part of the the flair of the podcast oh
i don't think she was saying in a negative way i'm just explaining it to some other people yeah
she definitely wrote that like this is why this is great and she definitely said you are the person
that she least wants to hear from on woman issues which i thought was ill how she picked that up
considering i thought we edited out all your woman issue takes what women issues nothing nothing nothing lebron is dope
she kind of snitched on us too she was like i know when they punch in when they've taken it
too far parks is trash she's supposed to cover that up i know when they punch in. Everybody here has the Warriors one,
right?
Yes.
Well, I do.
I don't know
the rest of the room.
Yeah, I have Warriors.
He think LeBron
gonna get it done.
I wanna see LeBron
get it done too.
If you know, you know.
If you wear the dad hat
backwards,
you definitely like LeBron.
I know what's gonna happen.
I've noticed that.
If what?
If you wear your dad hat
backwards,
you're definitely
a big LeBron fan.
Oh shit,
Savon is wearing
a dad hat backwards. I've observed that. Doesn't look If you wear your dad hat backwards, you're definitely a big LeBron fan. Oh shit, Savon is wearing a dad hat backwards.
I've observed that.
Doesn't look bad on him.
No, it works.
I can't wear a dad hat at all.
Well, you are a dad.
I know, but I can't wear a dad hat.
So you wearing a hat
could very well just be a dad hat.
Oh my God,
my fucking oldest son calls me yesterday
or the day before.
Right?
And he says,
Pop, I know it's last minute,
but I've been asked to the prom.
That's an air horn?
Yeah, man.
Hey, a round of applause for my baby.
Broke up.
He finally broke up with his girlfriend
that wouldn't let him break up with her.
That's always rough.
Good lesson in life, though. He tried to break up with her. She's always rough. Good lesson in life, though.
He tried to break up with her.
She said no.
Right, it's not happening.
But he found a way.
And now he's getting invited to the prom by bitches.
That's how it goes.
Stop calling 16-year-old girls bitches.
I'm joking, of course.
She loves Joe's issues on women, though.
She gave him a great write-up.
I get thrown under the bus.
No, she said I'm bad, too. Okay. I only say the word bitches because it's funny. I don't actually think of women like that. was on women though like she gave him a great write up I get thrown under the bus no no
she said I'm bad too
okay
I only say the word bitches
cause it's funny
I don't actually think
of women like that
no no
that started a good topic
what we talking about
prom fucking
at the cookout
yeah
if you was a cookout
no I was asking
niggas if they ever
fucked after the prom
because I was trash
I was trash
like
the peer pressure and all my friends were trying to get me to fuck after the prom because I was trash. I was trash. Like, the peer pressure and all my friends
were trying to get me to fuck after the prom,
but I didn't have any game.
I wasn't prepared for that type of experience.
So, I was trying to tell the limo driver to bust a left.
She was like, nah, you can take me home.
Nah, nah, nah.
Bust a right.
No, no, a right and a right.
And Roosevelt is right there.
First house.
I'll walk from here.
First house right there.
I was like,
dang,
I was home mad.
I think that sex
after prom shit
is only in movies.
I don't think
that's like a real thing.
I mean,
I wouldn't know.
I was home
very early after the prom.
I went to Checkers
and that was it.
I think most people are.
I think most kids are.
Was your mom
a little bit disappointed?
No, no, no.
He's home a little too early.
No, no.
She wasn't disappointed.
No one got me a champ with cheese.
The one right on commuter, Paul?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a great checker.
Yeah, man.
That's a great checker.
I got a milkshake, too.
That shit be wild after midnight, though.
Fuck this vagina.
I would stay away from that checker.
Go eat this and watch ESPN rerun.
Yeah, that is about all I'm going to do.
But I'm really happy that my kid is going, And I'm happy that, wait, so now.
He's graduating high school already?
No, no, no, no, no.
He'll be a senior next year.
So this is a junior prom that he was invited to.
I'm thinking I ain't really got to go crazy for the junior prom.
Nah.
The junior prom, you could go get the rented tux.
But no, I don't know if you've seen.
Prom's different now.
It's not what it used to be.
It's a whole production.
It's, yeah.
Like, you can't have Trey look super trash.
No, that's fine.
I already talked to Puff about it.
If some chick
come walking in
on an elephant.
I need the jet
from Montclair
to Jersey City.
I'm sure
some of you got some...
Where is it landing
in Jersey City, Joe?
That's a good question.
On top of Snyder
or some shit.
Top of Snyder.
Oh, huh?
Niggas ain't feeling me.
They ain't hanging around Snyder.
Dude, they're sleepers.
I don't think I have a sleeper this week, actually.
Oh, you trash.
I should look.
Let me see.
Gap band outstanding.
Let me see what's going on here.
After that push of shit, I don't even want to play R&B.
I got to find a new sleeper.
I ain't going to lie, man.
I got to stop saying I ain't going to lie, man.
And then lie?
I don't lie after I say it.
I think that's the prefix to lying.
It is a few things that liars say that they just don't know they say.
No offense, bud.
I say all of them.
Oh, yeah, no offense, bud, is one of them.
Or when the barber pulls the whole barbershop.
Right or wrong?
I'm right or wrong?
That's a liar thing, too.
My barber comes to the crib.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Wealth.
That's whack.
Yo, I see the general public still trying to ignore the new Tiger record,
and I don't know how I feel about it.
Chill, play that, because that shit is kind of hard.
Actually, this might just be my sleeper.
Fuck it.
Yeah, it's my sleeper.
It's the new Tiger record.
This one is called Taste.
I fuck with the song.
I fuck with the video.
I don't fuck with him, so I'm going to play it.
Slide on a pimp gang with my pinky ring
Lotta gang, lotta bitches, and I like to chain
While you claim that you rich, that's a false claim
I be straight to the whip, no baggers clean
Whole lotta styles, can't even pronounce the name
You ain't got no style, see you on my Instagram
I be rockin' it like it's fresh out the pan
Only when I'm takin' pics, I'm the middle man
Walk talkin' like a boss, I just lift a hand
Three million cash, call me Rain Man Money like a shower, that's my rain dance
And we all in black, like it's gangland Say the wrong words, you be hangman
Why me stick to your bitch like a spray tan?
Uh, Mr. What kind of car you in?
And the city love my name, nigga, I ain't gotta say
She can get a taste She can get a taste
She can get a taste
Fuck what a nigga say
It's all the same like Mary-Kate
She can get a taste
Let you get a taste
Do you love the taste?
Yeah, that's cool, but he ain't like me
A lot of girls like me, niggas wanna fight me Nigga, get your ass checked like a fuckin' Nike Me not icy, that's cool, but he ain't like me A lot of girls like me, niggas wanna fight me
Nigga, get your ass checked like a fuckin' Nike
Me not icy, that's unlikely
And she gon' suck me like a fuckin' Hi-C
On chains on the neck for the whole team
And I feel like Gucci with the ice cream
And my bitch want the Fenty, not the Maybelline
I'm the black JB, the way these bitches scream
Make these bitches scream
Pretty lil' thing Like my nigga A.E. I'm the black JB the way these bitches scream Make these bitches scream
Pretty lil' thing Like my nigga A.E.
Say, yadadadamim She can get a taste
She can get a taste Fuck what a nigga say
It's all the same like Mary Kate She get a taste Let you get a taste
Do you love the taste?
Yeah, that's cool
Hossit!
Yeah, I'ma put the drip on the plate
Diamond, ice, glaze, niggas imitate
Ayy, ayy, feed me grapes, maybe with the drape
Slow pace in the Wraith, got this shit from Bae
Diamonds at the bar, they cook it hittin' harsh
The rawest in the park, I'm addin' homage
Shotguns, shells, we gon' always hit the tar
Popcorn bitch shell poppin' out the car, chit
Thirty-four hundred, no side-charred bar
Oh, ayy, ayy, Ferrari Make her get on top of me and rob me like a hog
She wanna keep me company and never want to bar me
Yeah, fishtail in the parking lot I don't kick it with these niggas cause they
talk about you yeah and i got the fight don't make me spark it out you yeah keep it in my
back pocket like it's a wallet like the way she suck it suck it like a jelly she took it up and
put it with the whole project racks and she got that paddock on water markers i'm rich in real
life i get that profit copy she get a taste that you get a taste do you love the taste yeah that's copy Shot town, you can get a taste Keep staying, you can get a taste Cartland, you can get a taste
I see that the much you taste
You can get a taste
Brand new from Tyga, that was Taze featuring Offset.
I'ma turn it down, cause I didn't know that we were still shouting out cities at the end of songs.
You hate him.
That beat is hard.
That beat is kind of crazy.
Parks has some really interesting takes about the equalizer.
The movie?
and Denzel you like the Equalizer though?
yes I do
you like action star Denzel?
when did he turn into an action star?
listen if I
I dealt with Vin Diesel for years
I'm not getting Denzel out of here
what was he in training day? I'm not getting Denzel out of here. What was he in Training Day?
I'm not getting him out of here.
I'm just saying that, like, damn.
He does a lot of action movies.
Yeah.
He had 16 AKAs shoot him for five minutes,
and he was still standing up smoking a cigarette.
He was a superhero in fucking Training Day.
I mean, but Training Day, yeah, that was action.
That was the start of it.
That was the start of it.
But I liked Equalizer.
You didn't like Training Day?
Yeah, it was a good movie.
Any movie where the dude is tearing niggas up in Home Depot.
That nigga was killing him with the two by four.
John Q, he was a superhero for healthcare.
Listen, man.
And then what's that other movie?
I don't remember that he was working for the CIA.
Oh, with the old boy.
Last Man on the Train.
I forgot what it was. Pelham 1, 2, 3. No, there was another one with the Van Wilder dude. Oh, yeah the old boy. Last man on the train. I forgot what it was.
Pelham 123.
No, there was another one
with the Van Wilder dude.
Oh, yeah,
and there was that one.
He's got mad action.
No, he was pussy in that one.
He was pussy in that one.
No, but he was
the average working guy.
He wasn't like a special.
No, but then he showed up a day.
Yeah, we got to get
Denzel out of here.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
I'm joking.
I'm joking.
I'm joking.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Uncle Denzel's all we got left,
him and Will Smith. That's it. Until Will Smith shit come out.. Don't do that. Don't do that. Uncle Denzel's all we got left, him and Will Smith.
That's it.
Until Will Smith shit come out.
Will Smith already.
His shit already out.
I mean, he like. Yeah, you don't care.
If his shit come out, he might just start masturbating.
Listen.
He don't give a fuck.
Joe is crazy.
Yo, the nigga just dropped the verse.
He's 50.
I told y'all Will Smith has some shit coming.
I did.
I did. All of this was a rollout to a Will album. some shit coming. I did. I did.
All of this was a rollout to a Will album.
Him taking over Instagram.
His whole 20 years of that rap.
No, this whole Instagram thing he's been on for an album.
I feel guilty.
I'm watching the Will clip like, damn, he's got some Eminem cadence.
I was analyzing it still.
He might have a secret Pac verse that we don't know about either.
Him and Jazzy Jeff might be getting back together.
Yeah, I'm cool.
Who got the next sleeper?
Let's do it.
I'm cool.
I was going to play this last week, but then her and Rapsy put out that really good song.
I played this guy before.
His name is Gallant.
This is his new single, Gentleman.
If it plays.
Huh?
You played this on the podcast?
It's cool. Play it again. I like it.
I don't remember when you played it. My bad.
I'm going to play some street shit.
No, you don't.
You could play some R&B shit and the world would be fine.
No.
Your hat says reasonable doubt.
I'm just gonna ask for it. It all disappears Said you're sick of that high school shit
You need a college degree
So you took all your frustration to me
Tell me, have you ever had a gentleman?
If nothing, girl, you deserve a gentleman
Eat you up for dinner like a gentleman
Knock before I enter like a gentleman
Tell me, have you ever had a gentleman?
If nothing, do you ever serve a gentleman?
Get you off the dinner like a gentleman
Not before I enter like a gentleman
Like a gentleman
Said, fuck it with that subtle of sound
Nah, we don't want that Throw yourself on like it's meant to be
Leave you with a fifth of your sanity
Tell me, have you ever had a gentleman?
If nothing, girl, you deserve a gentleman
Ain't you ever dated like a gentleman?
Knock before I enter like a gentleman
Tell me, have you ever had a gentleman
If nothing, do you ever serve a gentleman
Get you out for dinner like a gentleman
Not before I ate it like a gentleman
Say what you want, don't be scared
Girl, you know I've been here before you
Can't ignore all the signs that you feel
When you're touching and kissing my neck
Girl, you know what you want
And I'm here to give it to you
Take what you want, don't be scared
Girl, you know I've been here before you came
Ignore all the sorrows that you feel When you touch it, kiss it by name
Girl, you know what you want I'm here to give it to you
Tell me, have you ever had a gentleman?
If nothing, girl, you deserve a gentleman
Hit you up for dinner like a gentleman
Knock before I enter like a gentleman
Tell me, have you ever had a gentleman
If nothing do you want to serve a gentleman
Yeah
Eat you up for dinner like a gentleman
Knock before I get to
I ain't tired baby
Oh I ain't tired, baby Yeah, baby, I can't, I can't, Iman again, I guess.
Is it Gallant or Gallant?
I don't know.
I really don't.
Either way, I love that song a lot.
Great record.
Well, his last album was really, really good,
so I don't doubt this one's going to be any different.
Nah, I'm going to change the energy.
You going to play Gatband?
Nah, I wish.
I wish I was playing Gatband.
All right, now.
Who's going to get the burnt hot dogs at the cookout?
I'm going to play, just because I've been listening to this record a lot.
This is Westside Gunning.
Oh, this is Jag.
No, this is Westside.
Shout out to my nigga Jag, though.
All right.
God damn it. That's my nigga., though. All right. God damn it.
That's my nigga.
We know.
It was no doubt in our minds.
Yes.
Every week.
This Westside Gun and Conway, Fendi seats.
Didn't he just put out something new with Evidence today?
Yeah.
Okay.
Hey.
Look.
Machine, bitch.
I kill movements. I will snap. Promise you scrap. I will lose it. Aye With me, I don't speak about the shit I don't sell I'm a S.E.G., I don't ride coattails
All it take is a phone call made
Four goons, four K's, get your parts sprayed
I'm just trying to see my name on a false page
My new shit sound like something the Lord made
A fuck nigga can't shake my hand
And it's fuck any nigga if he snake my man
You dick ride when you see me, you're straight my fan I will slap you like a bitch till I break my hand And it's fuck any nigga if he snake my man You dick ride when you see me, you're straight my fan
I will slap you like a bitch till I break my hand
My nigga who laugh, mad resi on my digi Squares with the stamp in the middle, they
smell of pissy Nigga in the hood talking all crazy, I'm like
who is he?
Came my younger in the 30's, I told him to get busy
Can't touch me or my slime, hands off policy Niggas gon' riot in the city if a nigga body me
So think before you niggas throw a shot at me
No respect, goons outside that church where your mama be, it gotta be like that
I know a nigga let his pipe clap, they gave him 25 to life
He a building and gave him crackers, that life back
18 in and 7 left, then he back just like he never left 50 pull ups on the bar now that he on his 11th set
Ayo, now that I got your attention I like to mention I'm gifted
Purple label, suspenders, MAC 1111 extended Running with killers, more jealous
Or menaces, dealing fish
Using too much shoulder was ignorant
Mind your business or your brakes gon' hit the ceiling
The Lord willing, I can count on half a billion
On a yacht chillin', rockin' Louis Lennon
Who we kidding?
You couldn't tie the strings in my European
See him, shoot his BM in the BM
I had to leave him, leaking, stinking
Almost threw up, but you ain't it Deodorant, purple tape screeching
I hopped the fish, jumped in the GL Benz Called it, yeah, no lens, my nigga started reaching
Make sure you hit every motherfuckin' sight Throw them shits to Lake Erie tonight
He said she don't go to ice It's Westside Gunn and Conway, Fendi Seats.
I'm looking forward to his album this month.
Yeah.
Or June, rather, but it's about to be June.
I told you I'ma let it ring on you like Virginia Williams.
Drake thought he was just really saying an innocent punchline.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Ring on you.
Just you're married, which means there's a ring there.
Yeah.
You're engaged, whatever it is. You know he was ring there. Yeah. You're engaged, whatever it is.
He didn't know he was opening it up.
Yeah.
I thought I was weird for not knowing who that was.
Oh, I found out on Twitter.
I didn't know this.
I didn't know this.
I had no idea.
I thought it was a cigarette.
I got it confused with Drake's drink that he was promoting.
Oh, yeah.
Virginia Black, right?
Virginia Black, yeah.
Yeah, but Twitter told me like they tell me everything else.
Does Drake respond at the end of tomorrow's business day or today's business day?
I still got him Friday.
I got him Friday, too.
If he responds, listen.
No, he steps on Kanye this week.
Or does he wait to hear Kanye's response or his album,
and then he responds on the weekend?
Is there an OVO radio plan?
He's got to go straight to Push, though.
What are you talking about Kanye right now?
Push just directly said, don't even mention Kanye.
I'm talking to you.
Well, no, I'm going home to kiss my child before I even get to Push.
After you said all that shit, we got to get to the shits.
Yeah.
Marissa just tagged me in something that I had nothing to do with, but whatever.
I love when she does that.
All right.
Anything else before we get the fuck out of here?
I feel like something is happening this weekend.
Roots Picnic is this weekend.
Oh.
I knew nothing about that.
Yeah, it's Saturday the 2nd
We're supposed to get a lot of heavy rain
This week right?
This week
I think that's Thursday and Friday
Coming down from Baltimore
Where those floods were out there
That was on the Farmer's Almanac?
No that was on Twitter
That was on Twitter
Never mind it's real Go to your local supermarket there so that was on the farmer's almanac no that was on twitter that was on twitter so
never mind it's real go to your local supermarket and buy all the water before the white people do
it speaking of white people ryan calls the supermarket the food market over the weekend
i said where you going just headed to the food market i said yo you are a country bama nigga
the quentin miller thing had me thinking top three supermarkets.
I got Publix
pretty high up there.
Wegmans.
You don't know?
I don't.
Wegmans is fire.
Let's not sleep on
C-Town and Key Food.
Wegmans is that one
we went to that time, right?
Yeah, it's upstate shit.
I'm going to have to go
with Wegmans number one.
Wegmans is crazy.
Wegmans is different.
How often have you guys
been to Publix?
I've been a lot.
Wegmans is different. It's a guys Been to Publix? I've been I've been a lot Wegmans is different
It's a different
It's like a Whole Foods
But not
OD expensive
They got every type of food
Like a bar
Food bars
They got bars
Buffets
Yeah
That's crazy
That's why I was up
Alright man
Time to end on a positive note
I'm getting the fuck out of here
Yeah
Yeah Alright man, time to end on a positive note. I'm getting the fuck out of here. Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh you gotta love it.
Oh you gotta love it.
Herb was circulating, let's get to the bottom of it.
Told one to send me something and I got it covered.
Somehow I always rise above it.
Why you think I got my head in the clouds on my last album cover?
The game is all mine and I'm mighty possessive Lil Wayne could not have found him a better successor
Every shot you see him taking me, they're all contested
Allen Iverson, Shudio, these niggas all in question
Last night I went to sleep wanting more
Trying to decide what direction I should go towards
Some nights I wish I could go back in life
Not to change shit, just to feel a couple things twice 28 at midnight, wonder what's next for me
Longevity, wonder how long to check for me
Probably forever if I stay in my zone
I speak on this generation but can't change it alone
I heard a little, little homie talking reckless and vibe
That's quite a platform you chose, you should've kept it inside
Oh you tried it so childish, calling my name on a world stage
You need to act your age and not your girl's age
It gets worse by the annual, my career's like a how-to manual
So I guess it's understandable, man
Oh you gotta love it, you gotta love it, yeah
I know rappers that call Pablo Rossi to come and get him
To show their outfits off, yes they need the attention
I remember when it used to be music that did it
But then again, times have changed, man, who are we kidding?
I'm managed by my friends that I grew up with I'd rather give that 15% to people I fuck with
If me and Future hadn't made it with this rapping
We'd probably be out in silicone trying to get our billions on
But here we are, yeah
Lately I feel that hate is eating away at my confidence
They scream out my failures and whisper my accomplishments
Bitches alter my messages like we have words And stories about my life hit the net like a bad serve bitter women
i'm over texting the pms and crazy this year fucking with my image i was trying to reach
you so i could save him this year fuck it i guess i gotta wait till next year and i heard someone
say something that stuck with me a lot about how we need protection from those protecting the block
nobody looking out for nobody
Maybe we should try and help somebody or be somebody
Instead of being somebody that makes the news
So everybody can tweet about it
And then they start to RIP about it
And four weeks later nobody even speaks about it
Damn, I just had to say my piece about it
Oh, you gotta love it
But they scared of the truth so back to me showing out in public That's's the hottest subject, I've been whipping Mercedes, the niggas try
to budge it, I gotta make it back to Memphis and check on my cousins, shout out to Ashley,
Taja, Bianca, Julia, Erica, Southern America, part of my heritage, part of my arrogance,
part of my hair again, that's that comeback flow, comeback flow, once I start it's a parent,
I'm with a girl who asks it so big that it's partly embarrassing But fuck all the blushing and fuck your discussions and fuck all the judgment
Your content's so aggressive lately, what's irking you?
Shit is getting so personal and your verse is too
I wanna prove that I'm number one over all these niggas
Being number two is just being the first to lose
My city dictating music, nobody seeing us
Winner here already but somehow I'm heating up
Been observing the game and feel like I've
seen enough Let's drop a tape on these niggas then we'll
see what's up Yeah, boy you rapping like you've seen it
all You rapping like the throne should be the
three of y'all Best I ever had seems like a decade ago
Decade and flow and I still got a decade to go
Oh please take it easy Where's the love and the peace
Why you rapping like you come from the streets I got a backyard but money seems to come from the trees and I'm never ever scared to get some blood on my leaves
Phantom sliding like a shit just hit a puddle of grease. I cook the beef well done on the double with cheese
Special order for anybody that's coming for me. Shit you probably flinch if somebody sneeze
You see they got me back talking like it's just 40 Ali and me Cutting all loose ends, I be the barber for free
I'm almost at four minutes, going off on the beat
Feel like I'm in the Malibu that had the claws on the seats, man
Oh, you gotta love it, yeah
And on top of that, it's getting harder to eat
Rappers downgrading houses, putting cars on a lease
To think labels said they have a problem marketing me
And now it's everybody else, it's getting hard to believe
But man, oh oh you gotta love
yeah
they had the time product of it I know you girl well just not in public blame
the city I'm a product of it young nigga from the city
you gotta love it
You gotta love it
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