The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 167 | "Hov's Greens"
Episode Date: June 20, 2018This week, Joe, Rory and Mal had a lot to unpack. Joe begins by discussing the untimely passing of XXXTentacion and how it affected him (3:54). He also questions Rosenberg's loyalty to Hip Hop (8:47),... addresses Akademiks (22:43) and speaks on getting out of the hood. While the guys were on tour Nas dropped his album “Nasir”, and they give their honest review of the project which was solely produced by Kanye West(40:25). Jay-Z and Beyoncè also released a surprise album the day after Nas and Kanye, and the guys determine if this was done strategically or coincidentally (57:23). They also speculate on some of the lyrics they feel were aimed at Kanye and/or Drake (1:09:11). This week is another loaded episode, enjoy. Thanks to all the listeners who showed up on tour! XXX artwork by: @Jediah Sleeper Picks of the Week: Joe: Jacquees - “London” | https://youtu.be/V3NfMzf79sQ Rory: Amber Olivier - “When It’s Over” | https://youtu.be/O9v1t52aM1Y Mal: Adonis and V Don - “Silli Boi” | https://youtu.be/fDgfVWk5jt0 Cash App Host: Joe - $MouseBudden Co-Host: Rory - $RoryFarrell Mal - $Jellybean221 Production Team: Parks - $Parksmusic Savon - $SavonSB Erikson - $EriksonCorniel
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We are back to Joe Button podcast episode episode 167 if I'm correct.
Gentlemen, yes?
I'm your host Joe Budden alongside Rory Mall Parks.
Erickson is here.
Savon is here.
And Ice is here.
And I want to start this with a quick moment of silence for Triple triple x tentacion and jimmy wapo out of pittsburgh uh i want to say rest in peace to them both and i would like to send uh love prayers and
condolences to their fans family and loved ones uh so we'll start with some silence for a quick second.
Okay, unfortunate we have to start this way, but we do.
In a busy, busy, busy, busy, busy week in hip-hop.
Pardon my voice i i was i just was uh awoken awoken from a nap uh so i was trying to be well rested here so if you have not heard
uh triple x 10 tassion was murdered in florida exiting a bicycle shop, a motorcycle shop, he was shot in his vehicle, from what I read,
as on-goers and passerbyers recorded his lifeless body with their phones,
body with their phones um and as soon as i saw that video i said he's gone he's he's he's
there's just not a doctor there to confirm it but that doesn't look too good uh and then shortly after the jimmy wapol news broke and i'll be honest i can't remember a day where two rappers were murdered on the same day um
and a lot about this triple x shit is bothersome uh so let me just talk about me real quick this
kid I wasn't um I wasn't into his music very early on um but i was working on a show with academics and academics was big on
this kid's music and academics spoke highly of this kid uh so i started to watch the kid because
he was uh he was a mental health advocate yeah um so i was into him before I was into his music because some people use mental health to exploit it.
Some people, you know, you can just tell the difference when some people are really going through some shit and just faking a funk.
Not too long ago, Bow Wow reached out to me to do an interview here.
This is a few months ago.
This is before his Breakfast Club interview.
This was when he was running around
with the album titled Suicide.
I turned that shit down ASAP.
Didn't answer that call.
Not because I don't fuck with Bow Wow.
I just don't,
I don't play with people exploiting mental health.
Not to say that Bow Wow wasn't going through shit,
but I didn't believe it.
This kid was a little different.
As someone who has gone through some of that, some of that stuff and still does.
You looked at this kid and for me, I immediately said, oh, he'll end it.
He'll he'll do it. And I started to speak to act in a different manner regarding this this young man so
when his album came out I bought it and to my surprise it was really good uh he was diverse. He was doing a lot more than just rapping.
And all of the content was pretty heavy and pretty serious.
And even after all of the fuck shit that this kid did, his album came out and sold a lot of records, a lot of records, which shit.
I was on vacation at the time with my girl,
and her and I was both on the balcony crying,
listening to this album,
because we both are into that mental health shit like that.
She's lost somebody.
I've gone through it.
So for this young kid to be reaching an audience,
like, I was happy.
I was proud that there was somebody
talking that shit to the young kids.
I mean, I'll be honest, that's how I felt about it.
And I've had pretty harsh words for the young man.
And I will say, and I've had a few conversations with him, I've spoken to him on FaceTime.
To me, it seemed as though he was trying to live differently.
It seemed as though he was trying to make some changes.
It seemed as though he was sincerely apologetic for some shit that he did.
And I can't speak on everything that he did.
And I can't speak to... that he did, I can't speak to,
you know what I will speak to, let me, this is what I will speak to, let me, let me get off of
Triple X for two seconds, and just talk about, like, some life shit, please, y'all feel free
to jump in here, I'm just gonna kind of ramble, because I have a lot to say about the topic,
in here, I'm just going to kind of ramble, because I have a lot to say about the topic,
well, don't jump in here, because I'm about to kill Peter Rosenberg, so yesterday, I'm driving,
and I had already heard the news, and I was really fucked up, I cried all day yesterday,
I even didn't really know how to start this podcast because I didn't know if I could talk about this without crying a whole lot so I'm in my car bawling and fucking tears right and I'm listening to talk radio
and it's fucking Peter Rosenberg 98.7 him Michael K Don LaGreca And he interrupts this bullshit Yankee talk they're having
To say, hey
I know this is not a hip hop show
And I know we don't cover hip hop
But I'm in hip hop
So I must report to you guys
that XXXTentacion has passed away.
And then his two white co-hosts say,
well, who was that?
And the first thing out your mouth is,
well, he was no angel?
That's what he said yes that was the first thing out his mouth well he was no angel i took a lot of offense to that peter rosenberg i was gonna come in here and really tear you a new asshole, but that's not what's needed right now.
So let me tell you why I take offense to that.
And, you know, before I even get into that, I went because I was crying when I heard you say that dumb shit and I was mad.
And then I got home and I saw a whole lot of people echoing that sentiment.
Whole lot of people echoing That sentiment
This is what I thought
What I thought about it was this
Oh man
Hip hop
Let me talk about the hip hop
I know anyway
Hip hop
Has always been
Welcoming Of all Which is why it's I know anyway, hip hop has always been welcoming of all,
which is why it's kind of beautiful that way.
Like we accept the killers.
We accept the drug dealers.
We accept the rapists.
We accept all.
Am I off here?
That's what hip hop was founded on.
Don't misconstrue what I'm saying
because all is not okay.
All is not okay,
but you'd be a fool
to not think that hip hop does welcome all, right?
So cool.
Then you take this young man who did all of this fuck shit.
But it's trying to get it together and turn it around a little bit.
I take offense to Peter Rosenberg.
Let me tell you why I take offense to Peter Rosenberg.
Because if you're if you are in this culture and of the ilk of this culture then to me I'm only saying
my opinion then that's to be represented wherever you are like you can't take hip-hop out of me
it don't matter what room I'm in who I am face to face with I'm I'm hip-hop so for Peter Rosenberg to sit in this room
of fucking conservative with conservative ass Michael K and Don LaGreca who have no idea who
this kid is and the first thing you say is well he was no angel Peter Rosen Rosenberg. This ain't. Are you in this culture or are you a guest?
Because when you explaining some shit from the culture, I would think that it would be explained with some type of identification.
Because newsflash, Peter Rosenberg, this culture was founded upon niggas identifying with niggas.
With niggas understanding each other.
fine with niggas with niggas understanding each other so do you are you of the culture or are you a guest peter rosenberg and what i mean by that is if you are of the culture
then nigga i expect you to fucking act like you from the culture no matter where you at. I don't give a fuck if you on ESPN,
Disney, Airwaves, nigga.
Don't interrupt the fucking broadcast.
We here to hear sports.
I'm in my car bawling in tears
and I got to hear a nigga
that call himself culture say,
oh, he's no angel.
I don't know.
I just don't.
I know that
scary place
we're living in
when people just
are without
compassion
I've been asking
people all the time
I'm seeing niggas
I've never seen
this type of
oh good
oh he should be dead
yes kill him
rapist
murder
I don't
I'm asking people
hey do you think
all felons should die
right
I mean it's a question I want to know from niggas now it's scary the thing about that I don't, I've never, I'm asking people, hey, do you think all felons should die? Right.
I mean, it's a question I want to know from niggas now.
It's scary.
The thing about that is, I was saying that too, and I think people all cited the fact of how young.
A nigga's a child.
He's a child. And if you look at some of the great leaders that have gone on to, you know, lead this country and lead organizations,
I mean, when they were 18, 19, 20 years old,
they were selling drugs.
They were pimping women.
They had felonies.
But, I mean, as you become a man, you look back on your life
and you realize that you made some mistakes and you grow
and you learn from that.
I just didn't understand how everybody was saying you know, saying, oh, good,
you know, whatever he did with it, you know, the situation with his ex-girlfriend,
you know, y'all wasn't praying for her, y'all wasn't.
And it's like, yo, these are kids, 17, 18, 19, 20 years old.
Like, if we were all held accountable for things we did when we were 18 or 19.
Even his victim, his ex-girlfriend or whatever, came out and said that she was not happy about, obviously, him passing, but people being happy that he passed.
Right.
Which is awful.
And again, I'm not one of those people that's happy that this gentleman has passed away.
I think it's horrible.
I think what he's been accused of is where people are coming from.
I don't think it's just a simple mistake of something.
I'm just saying what I think these people are looking at.
They've read the articles.
Whether they be true or not, I'm not sure.
But it was those specific heinous crimes that he's accused of is what had people saying those outlandish things.
My problem isn't people having an opinion.
I'm not mad at Peter Rosenberg and his opinion.
My problem is the timing.
Yeah.
When someone passes, I'm not sure if people's parents taught them this or not.
I'm not sure who raised some of you niggas out there.
But when someone passes, that's not the time to pull up their foot.
That's not the time to go through all the things that you hate about them.
Right.
I also have a problem with the hypocrisy because people, you know,
screaming for justice and all that stuff, and then the kid gets killed.
They're like, oh, good.
But, like, wouldn't you rather see justice be served in a proper court of law,
et cetera, than vigilante justice, if that's what this was,
we don't even know.
You know, and we're going to talk about
the Hov and Bee album in a little bit,
but I can't stop playing that verse on Hov's album,
I mean, the Hov and Bee album,
in regards to this, where he's basically talking about what I've been saying for a little while here, woman or from just period because of how America treats you when you walk out the door.
Do y'all know that verse?
It was a great verse.
It was on.
I'll play the verse if y'all don't know the verse.
It was on the 714 shit.
Do I need to play it?
714.
714, I'm sorry.
No, it wasn't.
It was the last verse when the beat switched.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah wasn't. It was the last verse when the beat switched. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which kind of leads to my second point.
When you're saying all these things about you hating Triple X
and you hate and you hate and you hate and you hate and good, he's dead.
That is exactly what births the gentlemen that behave like Triple X allegedly did.
You letting people play judge, jury, and executioner at one shot.
Without information.
We don't know.
I mean, yeah, these things he allegedly did no but he just okay kill him we
don't even know what the circumstances was why who killed him killed him any of that right and
everybody's just yeah well he did this so good for him well all right i'm off i'm off of that i don't
give a fuck about that particular part because details have not emerged yet but what
I will say is uh all right so we've seen it now with chinks we've seen it with stacks we've seen
it with with stack bundles we've seen it with uh triple x now and man I'm getting real tired of of
the net the the story of rappers feeling attached to their hoods.
I mean, I get it.
I understand.
Trust me, I do.
But that's got to stop.
That just has to, you have to be aware of, well, how can I say that they're not aware and that's where they're from?
Right.
He was in the hood.
I spoke to Stack.
I spoke to Stack.
You grow up and feel attached to.
It's where all your friends and family and your life is.
They think they all friends.
That's part of the problem.
That as well.
Like 50 said,
fuck the hood.
And I don't,
I don't mean,
I'm not trying to shit on the hood,
but that's exactly,
like yo,
you,
once you,
the goal should be
to get out the hood.
Not make it
and stay
and hang around the hood.
The hood is,
the hood don't want you to leave.
So once you make it,
yo,
it's time to get out.
Get the family out.
You don't have to shit
on the hood to do it, but you stay there.
The hood will eat you alive.
Why thank you, Ice.
I didn't know Ice had a mic.
We'll get to that in a minute when this is not so serious.
Back to thoughts on Triple X real quick.
I'm not going to spend the whole podcast talking about this.
Just a few quick thoughts.
Niggas, you young rappers, those streets are not yours.
Those blocks are not yours.
Those hoods are not yours.
You have to understand how they work.
And what I mean by that is, let's talk geography.
Let's have like, and I'm horrible at geography.
I am really, really, really bad at geography.
But in my dropping out of school and traveling and picking up my own information, I learned a little bit about geography and how the world is set up or at least america is set up so there are certain places young men that just are not for us they are not set up for us
uh they're not set up for us to win they are there solely for us to fail or they're there
solely for us to kill and murder each other. Am I off here?
No, you're right.
That's unfortunately I had to find that.
I had to find that out like the hard way.
So when you start making a little bit of money and you start becoming and you start and you start having a little bit to lose.
Right. You just got to be a lot more responsible.
I get it. We grew up in these neighborhoods. So we want to go.
We want to help. We want to take people with us. The best way to help is probably to stay alive. The best way to help is probably to stay alive.
and normally you could just look around some of these neighborhoods like what was that i don't know where they were but but they say that they's the end because the internet oh they always find
out who did what so now they're saying they found these the people that did this that's what the
internet is saying cop police haven't said that no one else has said that the internet is watching
the internet guys oh for sure not speaking to y'all i'm speaking to the listeners the police
are watching the internet.
Yeah.
I'm real tired of seeing the streets on the internet
and I'm real tired of seeing
the internet on the streets.
Right.
Anytime I see either of the two,
it looks really, really funny
and it's really, really annoying.
Well, I'll be honest with you.
I was a little disgusted
at some of the media outlets
and people that were saying
rest in peace
and to the people that think
I'm talking about academics,
I am, but not just him.
I'm talking about him too.
A lot of these outlets have shown
that the only way to get out there
is to do fuck shit
because we'll cover it.
We all knew about Tentacion's
fuck shit before his music.
The masses at least.
Yeah.
Including myself.
Act got the nerve to be exploiting the nigga even in death.
He not the only one.
So don't do your coverage to instigate the fuck shit and then say rest in peace when it finishes.
It's offensive.
It's gross.
Y'all are exploiting this nigga, this young man, even in death.
It is sickening.
It's sickening.
I watched Everyday Struggle for all the three minutes I could stomach it this morning.
Or yesterday morning.
Just to hear Ack.
Because I remember him telling me verbatim out his mouth.
If something happens to that young man.
That's totally on him.
And I was surprised that he said that.
Because behind the scenes.
I know how much they talk.
And how much they kick it
he didn't look like that was just on him he looked a little shaken up it's it's that whole
internet culture of these kids that have nothing they see they're desperate the only way i could
get on six nine for example has nothing only way he'd get on is do that. I'm going to go do that because this is what's been set up by the gatekeepers,
if you will,
of Instagram.
That's the only way.
It's an awful process.
People die over it
because of people
in their basements
setting a standard
for popularity.
Right.
Yeah, I'm glad
I don't let none of you niggas
set any standards
for me.
Yeah, Ant got the nerve to be on the fucking show
talking about, yeah, and it's really bothersome
because him and I, we had a bit of a falling out recently.
I'm like...
But this is the problem I have.
What?
And then see, when I say shit,
people, I'm hating and I'm all of this,
but it's because...
If this is hating, call me a hater.
These certain dudes that they are giving these platforms to, it's like they're bozos.
Like, academics is a bozo.
He should not have a platform like he has because when real life shit happens, he shows just how much of a fucking bozo he is.
I think he should have a platform.
I don't think he should.
I think that he should use his platform
to talk about things that he is into.
And that ain't the streets.
He's not into the streets.
That's why I wanted to watch the show.
He looked shaken up.
He looked like,
wow, man.
Like all that shit
he was like,
wow, man,
life is short.
You just never know
when some things
like this happen.
Every day you perpetuate
this shit.
But this is what I'm saying.
Every single,
and I'm not mad
at no nigga
that's with the shits
perpetuating something.
Well, you can tell.
They're not with the shits when shit gets real.
Look at 6ix9ine once this happened.
He puts out, yo, life is short.
Yo, maybe I be trolling too much.
I need to chill out.
Shit can happen from your trolling.
I don't really know how to take anything that 6ix9ine says.
So I don't look at anything that 6ix9ine says.
I saw what he said.
So?
Was he trolling you?
We don't know.
There was a report that went out saying that
TMZ put out a report
saying, TMZ, y'all niggas
should stop reporting streets here too.
Y'all are just smart enough to hide
behind the storefront of TMZ.
Again, I was talking about Ak, but I'm not just talking about him.
There's a lot of people that do this.
If Ak had a storefront, then it maybe would be a little different.
It's him.
TMZ, y'all do the same shit.
Damn, I was going somewhere before we was talking about TMZ shit.
6ix9ine.
Oh, TMZ reported that 6ix9ine. Oh, TMZ reported that
6ix9ine might be under investigation
in some shootout shit.
So they reported that.
I don't know if that's why
he's on this peace treaty shit.
Yo, now I realize
your life is like...
Man, I don't know what you kids are doing.
I don't know what you kids
are doing out there.
I generally hope it's not a troll. Me this was it listen if this has to happen let's not let it
happen in vain I'm cool with 6ix9ine doing he makes great music that kid's a star he doesn't
need to beef with Chief Keef right both those kids are talented and did this to get away from that
right well here's my thing what because i was thinking
about this all yesterday too something is missing and i feel like there's something that we need to
be doing because i feel like we're not doing enough we're reaching back and really like
sitting these young cats down and explaining to them how serious this shit is like because
i say i hate to say it but we are kind of of desensitized now where shit like this is another one.
It's another kid.
It's another dude lost.
Another artist killed.
We should not be desensitized to that.
We need to reach out.
I don't know what it is we can do, but there's something that I feel like we need to do something
to where we're helping these young dudes understand, like fam this is life this is real life this is
not a joke i think y'all sit on the internet trying to go viral all day but y'all don't
realize there are real consequences to these actions so it's something that we need to do
i don't know what but we do need to do something with our platform to help these young dudes out that's
what i'm trying to say i think this could actually be that eye opener to just get that conversation
started like they start this is one of them that is happening too and and homie wasn't no
i mean for it to happen to him like that it was kind of it was shocking to me only because
i was kind of following him as of late and seeing changes that he was trying to make.
And just like his things he was saying, you know what I mean?
Things he was doing.
And it was like, for that to happen now was like, damn.
It was a kid who looked like he was just getting ready to figure it out.
Like, okay, cool.
I'm out here.
I had it totally wrong.
Like, okay, cool.
I'm out here.
I had it totally wrong.
So it's like, that's why it's such a tragedy to me because when you see somebody making that change, trying to turn that corner in their life, and they're taken away like that, that's when it's tragic.
Like, damn.
Like, this looked like a kid that was getting ready to figure it out.
And he could have been the one, we don't know, to spark his generation and say, yo, dog, listen,
like, we doing this wrong.
You know, you say that more, and I agree with you.
I do think that more of the elder statesmen could, there's something that could be done.
But, you know, when the news broke, I was with Stiles P., who, shout out to Stiles P. and his wife.
I visited the juice bar in Brooklyn.
We'll talk about that soon. But I was with him,
and he's one of the older niggas
that is always talking that shit to the youth,
is always about bridging the gap.
Royce, for a few years now,
has been on that.
I won't say me.
Cole, I could say me.
You have been.
There are a few people that,
there are a few older people
that have been trying to ingratiate themselves
with the younger crowd.
But I mean, I guess the question is,
what can you do if niggas just don't really give a fuck?
I was fucked up yesterday
because I felt like I connected with that kid.
Right.
I felt like I did actually get something that I said,
got through.
And that's just how I felt.
So yeah,
I was fucked up.
I was,
I was fucked up about it.
And it's 30 minutes now.
So I wasn't going to get into this,
but I was fucked up about it because,
and of course more will be revealed,
but like, it just seems so random.
That was my point earlier about geography.
That was my point.
I'm like a slave to my house almost.
Y'all know that, right?
Right.
And it's not because I don't enjoy going out.
I'll be honest with you guys.
It's because I'm entirely too paranoid.
I'm way too paranoid to be outside.
The way that my brain works, it's not really fun.
So especially in certain, a million times Rory asked me to go to Ducey Palooza.
And I'm not going.
Not because I don't enjoy Rory and his friends and Ducey Palooza.
I know me around drunk niggas.
Right.
It can end bad.
I've been in situations where it's almost ended bad.
You just got to be careful when you are around people
that do not value life the way that you do.
That was my point in bringing up.
It's the same as real
estate i don't give a fuck how big and nice your house is no one determines the value of it the
fucking surrounding houses it is the same exact thing so when i saw that timeline that somebody
on the internet put together and i'm sorry uh listeners i'm a little more awake now you can hear
when i saw the timeline that they put together of the alleged murderers five minutes down the street
eating the pizza uh pictures of the red mask and all of this shit i'm like really
like a nigga can't even go buy a bike in his hood. That tells me get out the hood.
They killed me for leaving the hood early, but I left.
I was getting the fuck out of Dodge.
It took niggas trying to kill me only seven times for me to say, all right, no more.
That's my point about niggas.
Like, seven times for me.
I was one of the lucky ones.
Like, guns jammed at my head.
Everybody is not always that lucky. When I think about this triple X kid, I got to think about what would have been said about me if I had got clapped last decade.
Oh, man, my story wasn't finished. Right. I don't think that young man's story was was finished.
I don't think that young man's story was finished, but he's in a better place, and your message was heard loud and clear.
X, I'll say that.
And we'll leave it there.
We'll leave it. Y'all got any more to say on this particular topic?
I mean, just prayers and condolences to his family, his fans, his friends.
Stop posting that video. Word. It's fucked up. I mean just prayers and condolences to his family, his fans, his friends.
Stop posting that video.
Word. That's fucked up.
His fans got to be going through it.
Yeah.
All right, how do we get out of that one?
From the top.
Yeah.
Uncle Charlie.
Yeah.
Might have to let it rock for a little bit too.
Yeah, you got to let it rock for a little bit too. Yeah, you gotta let it rock.
Might need this one to the hook.
Might as well just start again.
Welcome to the Joe Budden Podcast.
We are here.
Episode number 167.
Rory's here.
If you haven't heard the first 30 minutes, I'm here. Rory's here. If you haven't heard the first 30 minutes, I'm here.
Rory's here.
Mall, parks, ice.
They knew this was fire.
They lived to be Rockman Long.
Word.
All right, you guys got the sadness off?
I did.
You good?
You all right?
I did.
Eyes a little glossy.
No.
Are those your natural eyes? Don't look at me. Yeah, yeah. You all right? Yeah. Eyes a little glossy. Nah.
Are those your natural eyes?
Don't look at me like that. Yeah, yeah.
Don't look at me like that.
My eyes are natural, man.
Yo, you know what it is?
I think we've all spent entirely too much time together.
I didn't really want to come see y'all today.
Hey, let's start there.
Let's talk about it.
And shout out to the YouTube viewership.
My bad.
We didn't shout y'all out earlier.
Shout out to everybody listening at work.
You know,
now that we came back
from the road
and we was on the road
for a little bit,
got to spend some time
with the people.
I came back learning
a few things about y'all.
Not y'all as in the people
in the room,
but just y'all,
the fans.
Yeah.
Interesting people.
What'd you learn, Joe?
They like this shit.
Yeah, they love it. Love it. it that was some let's take a let's take
a second to fucking pat ourselves on the back here i'm kind of still in disbelief over some
of the shit i saw out there yeah it's wild as someone who said it every night every city we
went to i said it every night like i cannot. Yeah, but you can't believe a lot of normal shit, too.
A man should be crazy to you.
You believe we can't go to the movies by ourselves.
Yeah, so.
That's crazy to me.
Exactly.
I'm with you, Malt.
Yeah.
As someone who's been on a lot of rap tours, I'm still a little blown away by that.
We were in the Night Sprinter.
We had the Night Sprinter.
With the TV we didn't turn on once. We didn't even nice Sprinter. We had the nice Sprinter. With the TV, we didn't turn on.
We didn't even touch the television.
We're not used to these luxuries, man.
Yo, back in the day, you could tell we wasn't used to shit.
Nigga used to go in the house, grab 20 DVDs, bring them out.
To go right to DC.
Yeah, watching The Last Dragon the whole way.
That's a wild tour.
Yeah, we didn't touch that television.
The rooms were all packed and huge and beautiful.
I think I made more money than I did on the rap tours
or close enough.
And you fans, round of applause for you fans, man.
Hold up.
Y'all are awesome.
What I learned, Park, since you asked,
I learned a lot of, this is niggas, I learned a lot of this is niggas.
This is a lot of people's fix to get through work.
I guess I take that for granted. I mean, I knew it, too, because you see it every Wednesday.
But maybe I take it for granted because I don't do the same work.
I don't work.
That's always been the number one compliment to me when people say that.
Because I know what it's like to sit and stare at a fucking desktop computer in a cubicle
and want to blow your fucking brains out.
Yeah.
And then you have some life for three hours can make you feel happy.
Time out for a little bit.
I think Rory is like podcast J. Cole.
I'll take it.
He's doing well.
Rory tries to always relate to the fucking work.
Well, I'm the only one out of all of us that does that.
So I have to relate to and talk to our fans.
He does have a day job.
But what Rory's saying is a lie right now.
How is that a lie?
No, he has a day job.
I've known Rory for a few years now.
What cubicle job you was at sad and miserable and wanting to blow your brain?
Come on with the shtick.
The shtick.
The shtick.
Yeah, it's like J. Cole and the college kids.
That nigga ain't been in college in 20 years.
If y'all don't knock it off, you and Cole.
Me and Cole?
Yeah.
You never had a student loan, so you wouldn't fucking understand.
Roy don't, hey, working class niggas, Roy don't relate to y'all, man.
I saw him doing that shit On the road too
Yeah man
I remember those days
No
Listen
The last job I had before
I did not like
I was staring
At a computer screen
Pissed off
This was no more
Than last year
Just that fast
During this podcast
See how niggas
Don't even notice
When they pull
Their privilege
Out of their pocket
Did you hear
What he just said to me
Just last year
I had a job that wasn't so pleasant.
It wasn't pleasant for him.
No, warrior.
No.
I would say this, though.
Some of the stories on the road was a little too heavy, though.
One dude saying the show helped him you know fight depression and suicide
and i was like i wasn't expecting that you know heavy of a load we're having fun on the on the
road with the fans i thought so to hear that conversation i was like damn homie like so now
it's like a certain amount of pressure i feel to produce a great show every week for people like
that because it's like oh finally you do want to produce a great
show.
Yes.
All we had to do was
end it all like you
don't say like Eddie
don't end it all
whatever you do like
we'll be back.
Eddie.
I don't remember his
name.
I thought you just
gave him.
No it was Eddie.
Just don't end it all
we'll be back again
next week.
It's always an Eddie
that wanted to end it.
Yeah man but it was
fun man.
I had a great time.
What I liked about the road
was every city felt like the city.
Like the Philly crowd was...
That's true.
Felt like the fucking Philly crowd.
It felt like Philly.
Yeah, you're right.
It was a diverse crowd,
but they were a bit hardened,
rough around the edges.
Definitely a tough one
to start with.
They were tough
to get a laugh out of,
and they really enjoyed
the gunshot effects. Yeah. Parks was supposed to give me laugh out of, and they really enjoyed the gunshot effects.
Parks was supposed to give me some silencer effects, too.
Oh, shit, damn.
Yeah, we were supposed to do the silencer today for you work people.
Well, you were asleep all day.
I forgot.
Yeah, I came here early to do it, too.
You came early to nap?
No, I came here early to do the gunshot shit because that was a big complaint on the road,
and I just wanted to try something different.
But D.C. was great.
Hospitable, very hospitable. D.C. was a really good crowd. something different. But D.C. was great. Hospitable.
Very hospitable.
Man.
D.C. was a really good crowd.
What a crowd.
D.C. was dope.
Was that our first
Truth or Truth?
Yes.
Which couple was that again?
That was...
I want to make sure
we get some of these
Truth or Truth stories out.
I forgot their names.
It was Shorty
with the two bodies.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah.
She lied to us
backstage.
Was he Jared Or was that another
No Jared was
Jared was New York
Jared was New York
It was some wild
This young lady in DC
I don't know why
Her boyfriend would ask
A sold out crowd
First of all
His girl's body count was
First of all
He looked like he didn't even
Want to come up on stage
He didn't
He was in the boat shoes
Yeah he had his
Honest shoes on
His honest shoes yeah You can't ask your girl A body count With no socks and boat shoes Yeah he had his Honest shoes on His honest shoes yeah
You can't ask your girl
A body count
With no socks and boat shoes on
You can't lie in boat shoes
It's impossible
Well Shorty with a fat ass
Said she had two bodies
And naturally
She was laughed off the stage
Two babies and two bodies
Is hilarious
Two babies two bodies
Like we really believe
That percentage really exists
Word
Two for two
Two for two
Yeah I know
Two for two huh Two for two.
Two for two, huh?
Y'all know.
What else was real fun about The Road?
No, that was it.
Just ruining some relationships.
Well, we got some due to threesome, I think, in Boston.
Hopefully.
Biff.
Shout out to Biff.
Yeah, shout out to Biff. Biff and Kim.
Biff and Kim.
Do y'all want to start with the Nas album,
or do y'all want to start with Hov and B?
We should start chronologically.
You think so?
Yeah, hopefully it'll go over better than it did in the New York show.
Tell them what we did at the New York show, Parks.
They weren't feeling our Nas, I don't want to say slander.
It wasn't slander.
Our reviewander Our review
Our review
Yeah
Our less than stellar review
Of a less than stellar Nas album
I don't think our review
Was less than stellar
No well you're right
Our review was fucking on point
You're right
To the money
The album was less than stellar
Well it was the topic
We started out with
We came on stage
And then just shitted on
A hometown rapper
Who happens to be a legend
That we all love
Nas is my favorite rapper
Let me say
I'm not shitting on Nas.
No, no.
And I was ready for that.
Of course not.
We're not shitting on him.
I think that we just all had such,
you had Nas
and a Kanye West produced album.
It deserves to be way better.
Our expectations were through the roof.
My expectations
wasn't even through the roof.
No, mine were.
Mine were.
You ever heard B?
Yeah, like mine were.
You know what I'm saying?
Last time Nas really did an album
with a Lee MC.
Yeah, like I'm like,
listen, this is going to be crazy.
Did you just hear that?
I did.
Chill, don't hate on B.
That's a great album.
B is a great album,
but what had y'all thinking
that that type of wizardry
would be replicated now?
I mean, wizardry.
I don't even know
if it was wizardry.
It was.
Common was dead
in the fucking water.
I mean, you're right. So that was wizardry. You're not wrong. Wizardry. Yo, niggas don't even know if it was wizardry. It was. Common was dead in the fucking water. I mean, you're right.
So that was wizardry.
You're not wrong.
Wizardry.
Yo, niggas don't want to count how many times Common done pulled some wizard shit out of
the hat and popped up.
You're right.
Balled on the TV.
Popping again.
Common's everywhere, man.
It's crazy.
Yeah, man.
Knock it off, Common.
You?
Yeah, I was about to say.
The nicer version of you.
Like more polite or better at rapping?
No, like a nicer person.
Like a better.
Bang.
Bang.
No, I think Joe and Tara are calming up.
I do.
Yo.
That's not it.
Talking about rap.
Don't try to get a new sound bite out of this.
I don't know what Maul's trying to do right now.
I'm not trying to do that.
There's a script between Joe and there somewhere.
I don't know what Maul and Fox are trying to do right now.
I don't know, man.
Yo, I hate being on the outside and inside joke.
I really do.
Maul, give us your breakdown of the Nas album.
Because they like you a lot, so they'll let you say it's trash.
I mean, it just wasn't the lyrics were.
I just don't like hearing Nas on those type of beats, like those slow. It sounds like an audio book. Way too slow for Nas. He can't rap on slow beats. Yeah, I just don't like hearing Nas on those type of beats, like those slow,
it sounds like an audio book.
Way too slow for Nas.
Yeah, he can't rap on slow beats.
Yeah, I just hate, it just doesn't, it's not, it's not, like, it's not great to listen to.
Not saying Nas has lost it lyrically and he can't rap, but it's just not, it doesn't have
any replay value.
Like, I don't think I'm going to listen to any of those songs too much from now.
I tried.
I put that shit through the ringer about a hundred times. I can't. I know Parks was in here trying to. I was trying. I'm going to listen to any of those songs too much from now. I tried. I put that shit through the ringer about 100 times.
I can't.
I know Parks was in here trying to.
I was trying.
I was trying.
I was trying.
Parks tried to mix it again.
Trying to put some EQ on that bitch.
Added a verse from someone else.
Trying to speed it up a little bit.
What's that?
I just can't hear Nas on slow beats.
That's ultimately what it is for me.
I can't.
Those few seconds of BPM change did a lot to his flow, and it was nasty.
Yeah.
Not because Nas or his flow is nasty.
Right.
Just no type of...
It sounded like he heard them beats the day before.
It sounded like he didn't even rap to them beats.
No, you're right.
It sounds like he wrote to a different beat.
It sounded like he wrote to different beats.
That's what it was for right. It sounds like he wrote to a different beat. It sounds like he wrote to different beats. That's what it was for me.
It felt like that.
And let me tell you,
when you're dealing
with somebody like Kanye,
I wouldn't be shocked
if some of them beats
just weren't there.
I wouldn't be surprised
if Kanye nudged the verse,
slowed a beat down.
Took a track from an old song
and just remixed it.
Yeah.
Definitely.
It sounds just like that.
That Nas heard
half a done beat,
rapped on it, and then Kanye put beats around it. Nas was there for a day. Yeah, I don't like that that Nas heard like half a done beat rapped on it and then Kanye put beats around it
like Nas was there for a day
yeah I don't like that
knocked out all those verses
like yo here
and then Kanye worked on it for a week
and that's what the finished product was
and Nas heard it in Queensbridge
yeah
yeah nah I don't like that
don't do that again
nah it looked like Nas was in Queensbridge
looking to hear it for about 30 minutes
it looked like he was searching for Kanye.
I mean, I ain't really seen too many.
Yo, can I hear my album?
Yeah, I ain't seen too many pictures of them two together.
They probably listened to it on the car ride over.
And then they just fuck with it.
Yo, you fuck with it.
It comes out tomorrow.
Yo, you fuck with your albums?
Yo, you fucking with your album?
I'm putting it out tomorrow.
Well, that's probably why
I was delayed
Yeah I believe so
Oh yeah then it was the delay
Yeah he probably didn't
Fuck with it
Come on
We gotta get Puff on there
And do something
Listen Puff didn't take
That long to do that
I know it was a great add on
I love Puff on there
Of course
But I don't think
It was that long
Paul Rosenberg
Needs to tighten up
Over there at Def Jam
Cause this is their month After this What does Def Jam have left Could've put that shit On TuneCore This over there at Def Jam because this is their month. After this, what does Def Jam
have left?
June was Def Jam's year.
Wait, what? This was Def Jam's
year? No, like their whole year was
June. Oh, okay.
No, no, no. I don't mean this was their year.
I want to make that very clear.
This was their year.
Their whole year was June. Wait, so now that we're
four albums in, how do y'all feel about
The Kanye June experiment
Well I guess you can't
Really say anything
Because you didn't
Hear all of it
Yeah
Underwhelming
They're robbing niggas
Underwhelming
They're robbing
Yeah and people keep
Killing me like
Yo keep that same energy
You said these projects
Weren't coming out
If I would've known
That every project
Was gonna be seven songs
Of references
Skeletons
I wouldn't have
said these are not going to come out and demos yeah and kanye rap and this has nothing to do
with his political views i just don't need to hear kanye west rap if he's going to stay in this
mind frame his verse on daytona horrible horrible yay rapping say what you will about production
that's your preference you can't tell me that that was top tier kanye west rapping kids ghost
had maybe one good verse.
And I'm repeating myself to you guys,
but I said it at the live shows.
I don't ever want to hear Kanye West on a shot,
Jesus Christ, cops shot the kid sample.
When you're aligning yourself with someone
that has publicly said,
that's not a problem in this country.
And now you're on that sample.
It's disgusting.
I can't believe they thought that that cop shot the kid sample was just going to get it done. Kanye West does not need to be on that sample. It's disgusting. I can't believe they thought that that Cop Shop the Kid sample was just going to get it done.
Kanye West does not need to be on that sample.
You don't get that bummity bum ass sample.
I like that sample from Slick Rick.
Don't try to bring it back to cover up this mega excellence bullshit hybrid that y'all are doing.
No, no.
This is what kills me about Kanye.
And I've been trying to not talk about Kanye
because for the past month,
I've been trying to,
I've been killing Kanye.
But this is like a whole,
remember Kanye that paid all the attention
to every last detail
and everything about music?
Yes.
Yeah, I was an intern. I don't hear that on any i was an intern at a
studio in hinge where they tracked uh tracking lights i was an assistant on that session and
what came out sounded nothing like what was recorded there that shit went through like
six different fucking composers and producers and anyone that's interviewed and is asked a question
what it's like to work with kanye. They say it's the longest experience ever.
T-Pain, when he did the Good Life hook, said he was in there for five fucking hours.
Even Chris Rock, when he was doing a skit, was like, yo, I was sitting in that booth for three hours and 30 seconds came out of it.
He's a perfectionist.
I don't hear any perfection in any of these.
I don't hear purr.
I don't hear poof.
Yeah, there's nothing happening.
What happened to that guy?
Why are they robbing the fans?
I just don't...
Well, they're going to call it art and a new way of doing things.
New rules.
I'll tell you what, man.
It's always the new rules.
Yeah, they're going to try to spin that to us.
The new rules.
We do it our way.
We're putting out art.
Yeah, but...
And usually I'll roll with Kanye on that because it always sounds completely different.
And it does kind of feel like he's pushing something to an extent.
But with all of these, nothing feels pushed to me.
Nothing's different.
Anyone could have put those albums out to me.
It's not pushed.
Fucking, Cudi was gone for 17 years, came back, and still nobody gave a fuck.
Kid C, I see Ghost, that fucking project.
Nobody is listening to it.
No, it's not happening nowhere.
And niggas was waiting for Cudi. Yeah. Well, he's by far the standout on that album. I see Ghost, that fucking project. Nobody is listening to it. It's not happening nowhere.
And niggas are waiting for Cudi.
Yeah.
Well, he's by far the standout on that album.
I mean, it's the best production out of everyone that's put out in this month.
But Cudi is, it's a Cudi album.
That's what it is.
So it's safe to say we're banking on the Tiana album to be great.
No, the Tiana album is going to be great.
I hope so.
I hope so.
She deserves it.
She does.
And y'all are going off the snippets.
I think she's very talented.
I'm just going basing off everything Ye's got. Well, Tiana has always had-
I'm going off the artists.
Yeah, she's always had good music, though.
She's always put out good bodies of work.
I'm just hoping that now this is her biggest sounding, as far as the sound and the music.
I mean, I hope it's a departure from what we've heard as far as big sounding.
Unlike Nas, I think that the album Tianaarture from what we've heard is big sounding. Unlike Nas,
I think that the album
Tiana has been working on
for the past two years
is the album that's coming out.
Maybe, right?
Yeah.
I believe so.
Like, I think she's been
wherever she's been
working on her shit.
She brought it to Kanye.
He did a few things
and that's the project
that's coming out.
Nas was working on an album.
I don't believe
that that's the album
that came out. I don't think any that that's the album that came out.
I don't think any of this is the album that came out.
Maybe some of the vocals.
They might have told you, like we talked about earlier,
took some of the vocals and said, you know what?
I'm not using this one anyway.
Here, you take this.
Yeah.
Now I can see that.
Put that shit in Ableton and put a different beat behind it.
Well, there was the theory that Nas was using this to get out of his Def Jam contract.
Right.
Seven songs.
Let me just get out this shit.
Put it with the Kanye thing and be out. If so, then. But see, I don't like that this shit, put it with the Kanye thing, and be out.
If so, then...
But see, I don't like that
because if the album...
I'm tired of that too.
Yeah, if the album
received great reviews...
Then you wouldn't be saying,
yo, trying to get out my album.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
And he didn't say that.
And he didn't say that, right.
I'm just talking about,
you know, people wouldn't say that.
So it's just like,
eh, whatever.
And I don't want to hear about...
And I don't want to hear about
anybody that's been in the game
20 years that's trying to get out of a contract.
I don't.
I want to hear that from the newer gentleman.
Not from Nas.
I want my favorites to get out of their contracts.
Yeah, but I also want them to be still my favorites.
Right.
Sound like my favorite.
Sound like my favorite.
Because now, you know, that Nas album came out.
And whether warranted or not,
it brought up, J-Hope and Nas will just always be attached to each other.
So it brought up the conversation of how they both have aged,
like even their music.
Yeah, J-One, they said.
This round, he definitely got it. They said, J-Hope has aged even even now raps better with age than than
i didn't even know that that could possibly be a debate in hip-hop i mean do you compare
life is good and magna carta is that the same in their discography because i'm saying life is good
would be much better and more aged well on life is good than Magna Carta. Absolutely. But this round between 444
and Everything is Love,
that's not even a contest.
Well, I wonder if when they talk about that,
if they're talking,
when they say that one has aged better
than the other or stylistically,
I wonder if they're talking about
content at all.
That's what I think of it
because Life is Good had really good content. Yeah. I think it I think of it. Because Life is Good
had really good content.
Yeah.
I think it was better
on all fronts, honestly.
Yeah.
Content, production.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Was better than Magna Carta,
for sure.
For me.
Not to go unsaid,
Nas got his distribution deal
with Universal Mass Appeal.
I don't know what they're about
to do. Shit, maybe he'll sign
himself. I'm hearing he's back in the studio.
You hear what? I'm hearing
he's back in the studio already.
You're saying already. No shocker there.
He only did about six scenes.
I'm just saying.
That album would be six minutes if it wasn't for the
seven minute long Dream and Kanye duet.
Exactly.
Yeah,
they gotta stop that bullshit.
I think where music is headed,
I think we're gonna start
seeing a thing where
I don't even think
albums will
really exist anymore.
I think artists
are just gonna start
putting out
a single a month.
Well,
that is what the young kids
are doing
and that's what streaming
is really
where you prosper.
Let one of you niggas
try to put out
a single a month
and see what happens. Yeah, I really think that's where we're headed. No, they're doingiggas try to put out a single a month.
Yeah, I really think that's where we're headed.
No, they're doing it now.
You're not hearing the singles.
It's happening.
Yeah.
They just get brushed
under the carpet.
They're doing it with EPs
every couple months.
Why do y'all think
the non-shit dropped late?
I just don't think
they had everything together.
Yeah, I think it was just...
I remember after the...
Because they kept saying
the version,
the first version we was hearing, they said that wasn't mixed. Yeah, the think it was just... I remember after the... Because they kept saying the version, the first version we was hearing,
they said that wasn't mixed.
Yeah, the night
of the listening party,
Mike Dean that same night
was posting Mix and Nas
after the listening party.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
So there you go.
There you go.
Because I know the link
that we had early in that day.
It was different.
Yeah, it was much
totally different.
So why would they put
themselves under the A-ball
that way?
New rules. I'm going to throw a party under the bridge. It's art, man. Yeah, it was much totally different. So why would they put themselves under the eight ball that way? New rules.
I'm going to throw a party under the bridge.
It's art, man.
I'll be honest with you.
I'm surprised that Def Jam is still a business.
Like in itself?
Like it's still running?
Yeah, I'm surprised that they haven't folded like J Records.
They probably sold about three quarters of a million albums this month.
You know what I think it is too?
I think the name more so
is like a staple in hip hop
staple in music
so it's like
it's gonna be hard
to just get them
all the way out of here
hell yeah
I think someone
will always be there
take 2 Chainz
off of Def Jam
take Big Sean
off of Def Jam
don't let Logic
leave Def
no that's Island
I'm talking about Def Jam
it's two different things.
They're going to have a hard time.
If I can pick three niggas, take them off there.
That label is going to fold in a week.
Yeah, that's scary.
Yeah, no.
You've named the three.
Those are the three.
I mean, well, Kanye, of course, no matter what he puts out,
he's going to do units.
But yeah, those are the three active rappers that really are bringing logic. I think might be number one
outside of Ye. He is number one.
No, he's number one with Ye.
At Def Jam? I think so.
Wow. Let's double
check that before he gets killed. Chainz sells a lot
too. Yeah, he does do well.
But not Logic well. You said who
does well? Chainz. Who?
2 Chainz. Oh, 2 Chainz.
He said James. Chainz.
Why don't I know the Chainz? If's like, damn, why don't I know the James?
James Todd Smith.
If James is doing this, why don't I know the James?
Why don't I know him?
He's moving all these units.
Why don't I know the James?
What song is this saying?
I'm sure I heard it.
Is it James?
All right, so Hovind B put an album out on Saturday
fucking excellent
why they did that
come on
y'all wanna go
straight to that
we're not gonna stop it
wasn't J-Rock before that
J-Rock was before that
that J-Rock album
is a million times
better than that
oh my god
that album is great
it just proves
TDE man
why they're so consistent
it's a brand you can trust bro
every time
the whole crew
stops everything they're doing every in-house a brand you can trust, bro. Every time the whole crew stops, everything they're doing, every
in-house producer, every engineer,
every artist, we're all focusing on
J-Rock this month. That's why
TDE works so well.
All the executives were focusing on this artist.
And it works.
And I'm happy for...
I think that they're all just chilling and working
at all times. I think that's what's happening.
And I'm happy for J-Rock because he's always been
quietly dope. And I'm happy for J-Rock because he's always been quietly dope.
And nobody really stamps him and says it.
You know what I'm saying?
As far as actual rapping, to me, he might be the best out of the crew,
aside from maybe Ab is like super lyrical miracle.
But J-Rock is just dope.
Voice, dope voice, dope delivery, dope lyrics.
He's that real West Coast like rap.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
I'm happy for him though.
I'm happy for him
because I think this album
is going to be the one.
Yeah,
this is going to change his career.
It's his coming out party.
Yeah,
for sure.
I even felt like the rollout
felt like TDE
was really focusing on it
because they did the documentary.
It just felt more present
than a lot of things
J-Rock has done in the past.
Yeah, I felt like
the last couple days
kind of just like...
Just put them out.
Yeah, this one felt like
everyone heard that album
and believed and said,
all right, yeah.
This is the one that's working.
If you went to one of the tour dates,
it kind of ties into J-Rock's album.
It's the championship tour.
Everybody comes out.
When they do their set
with a different sport theme
backdrop, the whole shit. And then J-Rock got the win do their set with a different sport theme backdrop
the whole shit.
And then, you know,
J-Rock got the win record.
The video is a
sport theme.
It all just tied.
It was like it was all J-Rock.
I hope Ab Soul
gets a good one next.
Yeah, what's up with Ab?
That's a good question.
I was going to ask y'all
if he was putting out music
and I just didn't see it.
I think Q got to be next.
Q dropped already.
Q dropped previously. That was a year and a see it. I think Q got to be next. Q dropped already. Q dropped previously.
That was a year and a half ago.
Yeah, Q should be due up.
And when was the last time Ab dropped?
Long time.
Not that long.
That I know of.
It was around the same time, I feel like.
Q dropped after Ab.
Well, Ab has a girlfriend.
That'll do it.
So does Kendrick.
Oh. Shit, you see Jay had to do one
With his girl
I tried to shoot my guy
Some bail man
Who the fuck
Want to record
When you got a girlfriend
Who wants to record
Literally every rapper
Might have a girlfriend
I mean Jay and Beyonce
Just pulled it off somehow
You know I must say
I gotta apologize
To Jay and Beyonce when I see them.
How is this going to go?
Walk me through this.
How is the apology?
And where are you going to see them?
Let me hear the apology.
Wait, which question am I answering first?
I want to hear the apology.
How are you going to go about it?
B.
This is where security ties in.
That B is way too aggressive.
No, see, my thinking was
you do it like you're
a little familiar.
Oh, okay.
Like you haven't seen each other.
Like, B!
Yeah.
When you saw it?
Destiny's Child days?
That was the last time?
B.
B.
B.
First of all, that letter.
B.
Yelling B is just crazy.
B.
You should probably
address Ho first. At that note. Yeah, that would probably be. B. We should probably address Hov first.
At that note.
Yeah, that would probably be
because it's more of a
reporter a little bit.
Oh, yeah.
I see what you did.
Yeah.
All right.
I got to work on my strategy.
That's why I said
you got tackled.
If you just yell B,
you're getting tackled.
I don't want to get tackled.
Yeah.
I'll work on it,
but I owe them an apology.
Boy, that album
is a whole lot better
than I ever expected
a Hov and B album to be.
Word.
And y'all know I'm a stan for Jay-Z, so I'll never say his shit is whack.
But when I heard Liftoff, I said, I probably don't need.
Even that last one that they put out with Khaled.
Top Off?
I just didn't need Future on it.
I like their verses.
I don't want to hear no more of them type of repetitive hook records.
I mean, they kind of did it on the album, but they did it better.
Yeah, but they did it better.
But it's just that future Khaled thing.
I don't, I'm just, I got the keys was it for me.
All right, I'm cool.
That's the one I like.
Top off?
Nah, I'm cool.
I'm cool with the top off.
I didn't know why he was so hype about having the keys.
What do you mean?
He had the keys. But he was so hype about having the keys. What do you mean? He had the keys.
He was too hype about it.
I got the key, the key, the key.
Like, shut the fuck up, nigga.
Put some chill on it.
Like, Hov was sounding cool as could be on the verses.
And here come Doofy.
Fuck, I got the key, the key.
All right, man.
I heard you.
But, yeah, that album.
Well, all right.
Why y'all think it came out on Saturday?
Come on, be petty.
Petty.
Be petty.
The whole conspiracy theories, they're saying, like Rory said, Nas was trying to get out
of that contract, and then they're saying that the next day was like, what was they
calling it?
It's supposed to be like Juneteenth or some shit like that. That's today. No. I know that's today, but they were saying that. Yesterday day was like, what was they calling it? It's supposed to be like Juneteenth
or some shit like that.
That's today.
I know that's today,
but they were saying
it was Juneteenth.
Yeah, so they were saying
it was supposed to represent that.
Oh, yeah.
We're getting away from that.
Oh, yeah.
Come on.
All right.
That makes more sense.
That's what they were trying to say.
If you're Nas,
how do you feel, though?
I mean,
you don't know.
They probably had a conversation.
He's definitely mad.
You know the Carters put that shit out for Juneteenth.
100?
Yeah.
No, yeah, yeah.
They didn't plan this around.
I mean, the videos and all of that.
They're petty enough to do it.
They are petty enough to do it.
They're definitely petty enough to do it.
I think a good 10% was probably, oh, and Nas, Juneteenth and Nas.
Yeah, for sure.
That's a happy accident.
I'll take it.
Not really Nas, but Kanye more so right yes
absolutely yeah because and I'm telling you listen y'all gonna think I'm fucking crazy
yes that's my problem sometimes Hove and B say these little lines that have nothing to do with
the Kardashians or Kanye and I just I think it's a shot like well not a shot but I think it speaks to some of the
distance between the two like wouldn't be every album they put out this time it's what did Beyonce
say the whole last friends her verse is about yeah no but I'm talking about the lines that
really aren't about like Beyonce saying uh that, my grandkids, grandkids, grandkids is already on the Forbes list.
That line didn't have anything to do with.
No, that was a stunt.
I'm just stunning y'all.
Who do you think she was shooting at?
But who was she stunting on?
See, I'm obsessive like that.
All of us.
Nah.
Nah.
The world.
Nah.
My great-grandkids are not on the Forbes list.
Yeah, mine neither.
So she's stunted on me.
Well, no.
See, I was thinking the opposite.
My kids aren't on it, so she wouldn't be stunting on me.
That's not a stunt.
I ain't even thinking about my...
Who is thinking like that?
I guess my point is, who is thinking...
The mind that is thinking like that
is talking to the person
that don't really want to see black people on that list.
Like, you know the Carters is on
they fucking black excellent shit.
Well, she followed the line up with
that's a lot of black kids.
Like, there was another line after that,
which brings the point home, more or less.
So who do you think she was in?
I'm not saying what my point in bringing it up was just kanye and some of this bullshit he's on versus the carters and the stance
that they've been on for years and years i don't even see how they can be so cool i don't see it
is what i'm saying like just in what you what what you stand for did you see the video i don't see it is what I'm saying. Like just in what you stand for.
Did you see the video?
I didn't see any of the videos. The video is fucking beautiful.
The video was a stunt.
They shot the video at it.
How the fuck did y'all shoot a video?
How do you shoot down the fucking Louvre
and then make faces in front of
the Mona Lisa? That's swag.
It's just like,
I mean, but you you know when you're that
that's what you do
Beyonce also called herself
Beezus
Watch the Throne
there was a shot there
and that was right after
Hov said he just moved out
west with the family
there's some bars in there
yeah
double entendre
don't ask him
let's unpack
some of this shit
on this album
boss you wanna go with first?
That seemed to be our first debate.
I hate the Nice record.
Let me just get that out there.
I like the verses.
I don't like the hook.
I hated it at first.
I hate the Nice record.
But now I kind of like it.
Do you?
What's the Nice record?
The other Pharrell one.
That's not the Migos one.
Oh, I hate both of them.
No, the other one.
I like the Nice record.
That other Migos record.
Ape shit.
You don't like the Ape shit? Oh, no, I do like the Nice record. That other, that Migos record, no. Ape Shit? You don't like Ape Shit?
Oh, no, I do like Ape Shit.
That's going to be the one
that plays,
they needed that.
The only thing I could
possibly talk about Ape Shit
is it's definitely
a Migos record
that they just...
No, the reference
came out today.
Migos records sound
way better when
Beyonce does it.
Yeah, absolutely.
And that's the whole thing
because Take Off
didn't sound bad
in the reference I had,
but I was like,
damn, Beyonce really just makes shit sound 30 times better.
And she has top three skirt skirts ever.
Her skirt skirt is up there.
I think you're right about that.
I do like her skirt skirt.
I think she was the best rapper of the month of June this year.
Yeah.
Rory called Hovind B the new Stalagus.
Yeah, they back and forth.
Yeah, they back and forth yeah they back and forth
on the last record
and you believe
all the stunting
you believe it
but that's why
you can't rap
with your wife
because B was
kind of stunting
on that
and you had to
go get another
like whoa
you telling the business
what if Jay went back in
and did a verse over
after B though
I need to find that out
what if he actually
wrote his verse down
after that?
Yeah,
like yo,
you actually,
you had to go back in
and lay another like
four bars after your wife
he went in there?
When she went to sleep?
Like she don't even know.
Let me change this.
I'm going to keep it
all the way funky with y'all.
When Ho was talking about
some of the things
that he had to do
to keep his relationship
or get his relationship back
or maintain it
or just make reparations.
You felt that no no no i'm the exact opposite like when the girl was telling me everything i need to do to get it right nah don't do that shit and that was kind of my point i think i might i
lost b i would have broke up with be on this but move to what do
what I'm not all right you wildin it would have been a huge mistake of course but definitely Eric
but Nick no I wouldn't well home got that luxury I don't even know what that means anymore hold got
the money to have two weddings like how you have two weddings that's wild yo you fucked up marry
me again.
Oh, no.
You got to have money to do that shit.
What was that bar she said?
She said he had to, when Jay had to buy another diamond because he fucked up the first one.
Yeah, they had to get remarried.
That was a bar.
That was a bar.
Like, nigga, this ring don't even mean nothing no more.
Like, get this out of here.
Give me a new one.
And she said she was going to kill him when she met and then Hov cut her off with like
chill.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shut up.
You talking?
That's crazy. Said you wanted to keep it real, right? I like that type of talk, though. Me too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shut up. You talking? That's crazy.
Said you wanted to keep it real, right?
I like that type of talk though.
Me too.
Yeah, me too.
I like that type of talk.
All the talk on the album was great.
Yeah.
Hove is not Mr.
How old is he now?
How is he not Mr. Step?
Like how is he?
Jay was born in 69 I think.
Somewhere in there.
48.
48.
He'll be 49 this year.
Pushing 50.
That's swag.
Pushing 50 still talking like that
is crazy
word
he's rapping on this
even on the fun records
rapping agilely
on fucking
shit that's way past
your era
he was rapping like
Das FX
you rapping about
turning down
Migos
that's crazy
you rapping about
turning down the Super Bowl
and I'm bigger than you
on a Migos song
and you're 48
I'm still in stadiums and I'm still in stadiums. And I'm still in stadiums.
We got stadiums too.
He told him.
Different type of talk, man.
I'm so glad that we have, because we only got maybe Hove, Puff.
Puff don't rap, so that don't count.
It's Hove.
It's just Hove.
Like Dre.
I'm just talking about like, we got Puff, Hov,
Dre.
Am I missing somebody like
in that group
that I'm trying to create
that I haven't told y'all the group?
Small club.
But Jay is the rapper.
So,
Jay start rapping all that shit
and it's just different.
It's different when you're
rapping that shit.
It's different because
when you know it's true.
He ain't lying. Like, these other rap niggas are lying and start talking rapping that shit. It's different because when you know it's true. He ain't lying.
Like,
these other rap niggas are lying
and start talking that fly shit.
No,
Hov is telling the truth.
I don't think
Hov liked some of the things
niggas said about
how he was rapping on 444.
Like,
he sounded like he
had a point to prove.
He was rapping
super smooth
on some of them
some of them
bouncy double time
just current
sounding beats that I didn't expect him to sound
so fluid
over.
Alright, Rory.
Sam is making Rory do a song by song breakdown.
I am myself because I am also
a proud representative of the
Beehive and whatever Hov
Stan group is. I just want to say Rory wore
a Meek Mill t-shirt to Philly.
He's already used the words stand and hive in this.
Who's your demo?
Who are you reaching out to with this one?
Roc Nation.
Shout out to the family.
A lot familiar.
This thing of ours.
That's what that means.
I'll be seeing Maul at the meetings.
Why you threw me in that?
Cause you part of the family
Maul think he fucking special
Cause his plane hat
Got some cursive on the side
I don't have a plane hat
You have a few plane hats
Maul signed a few plane hats
On tour
Yes you did
It was one
And y'all gassed it
We did not gas it
Yeah y'all gassed it
Cause I was definitely
About to curve that
You about to curve that.
You about to curve a picture?
No, signing a Roc Nation hat.
Why?
Why would I be signing a Roc Nation hat?
Stadium status.
There you go.
No, Warrior, no.
My big brother was Big's brother.
Used to be Dame and Big's brother.
Thank you for that, Joe.
I figured that's why you would.
I figured. I figured that's why you would.
No?
Thanks.
Yeah, you're right.
What was I saying?
I got lost in the joke.
Everything is love. Everything is love. Okay, in the joke everything is love everything is love okay
come on everything is love rory give it give it to me give me the song by song breakdown from the
hive well let's talk about the boss verse because we had a few debates backstage about who that was
directed at uh the room was pretty split i think i want to change my answer to both of the two
artists that we were talking about half the the room said it was about Drake.
I think it's about Drake.
Half the room said it was about Kanye.
I think it's about Drake.
I'll say both.
I'm saying Kanye.
Yeah?
Who's his boss?
Yeah, the reason why I can't say it's not about Drake is because I don't hear Trump.
I'm asking.
Who's Kanye's boss?
Kanye West doesn't have a boss, per se.
Trump.
Kanye West doesn't have a boss.
He's got a boss at Adidas.
He's not writing checks at Adidas.
Then who's broke that's around Ye?
I mean.
And Drake passed on the title deal.
There's a bunch of niggas broke around Ye.
Okay.
Well, then maybe it's for Ye.
Well, nah, because Drake talked about.
Si, Tim's wasn't the cleanest.
Yo, when your Tim's ain't the cleanest out of the whole crew,
yeah, you might be doing bad.
Yeah.
That nigga had like
a wild stain like ketchup
on his Timbs or something.
Like, shit,
it wouldn't come off.
You know how you get
a ketchup stain?
You're like,
damn, I got to get the new pair.
Yeah, it's over.
Make America great at it.
I don't know if everybody
on good music
is doing the great.
It's all I'm saying.
Yeah, no.
Well, yeah, anyways, Drake talked about passing on title,
and Jay had said in the verse that you passed on working with me
to work with the man, i.e. Apple.
You have a boss.
That sounds directly a Drake to me.
It also sounds applicable to Kanye West,
who was working very closely with Hov
putting music out
title exclusive
even on his own projects
and then he stopped doing that.
There were no more title exclusives.
Kanye came out
saying he was angry.
He wanted to know the numbers
for Life of Pablo.
He never saw them.
Like there was all of that.
He also came out and said uh Apple stopped playing and fuck with Hove or whatever he was saying he was telling us so so
what I'm saying is it was applicable to both no yeah no of course I just I that's why I think I
changed my answer to both before I started this conversation it It sounds like Drake too. It does. I just don't think that Hov is talking to Aubrey
on an album with his wife
titled Everything Is Love
years after their exchange on records.
I don't think that,
I'm saying that just knowing
a little tiny, tiny bit about Hov.
I just wouldn't think that.
Hov also said,
I declare war and brought Nas out.
So we know
sometimes everything is not love even though I say this.
It's pointless to talk to Drake
right now if you're Hov.
It just seems like when Drake said on whatever
freestyle that was I wanted to be
signed to Rockefeller then I turned into Jay
and then Jay responds with people
making moves with other people to see if they're on my level.
I don't think Hov
I don't think Hov
really give
a fuck, really give as much
of a fuck about Drake as
the people do.
I think it was a big thing back when he was
calling Drake Kobe.
I don't really think
Hov feels that way about Drake anymore.
So for him to dedicate the energy
into dissing somebody on an album
with your wife,
who's the biggest star in the universe,
I would think you have to be
a little bit more invested.
I would think you have to have
a little bit more substance
in the relationship
and you'd have to really,
really be like hurt.
And I think all of those things took place with Kanye.
So I'm sticking with Kanye,
even though I have no concrete evidence that it's not Drake.
But I do think that Hov was shooting at Kanye.
The other big verse was Friends,
which people were saying Jay finally addressed
him not going to Kanye West and King Kardashian's wedding.
Oh, good for Hov, man.
I feel him.
I felt him on that one.
I did.
I did.
I, I, hey.
He gave a great reason as to why.
Hell yeah.
He didn't go.
But why did he have to say that?
All right.
No, he didn't have to.
Help me out here.
Did he have to do that?
No, he didn't have to give a reason.
Like, if you and I are friends,
well, we are friends,
and you're not having a wedding wedding but if in some pretend world you had a wedding and i didn't
show uh we're friends so we would talk about it number one and number two i would think that you
would you would assume there's a reason why of course well i think kanye west said hove didn't
even call them man if you don't get that shit the fuck out of here.
I know I'm not calling you, niggas.
He said he was going through things with his wife, but this is my wedding.
We family.
You should still be here.
Do you know who Hove is?
Do you think he's looking at Kanye like, I got to call you?
Could have sent him a text.
This is Hove.
Remember un-RSVPing to your wedding?
Un-RSVPing.
Delete my RSVPing to your wedding? Un-RSVPing. Delete my RSVP.
Do y'all,
do y'all,
give me some of the places
that y'all frequent
when y'all are fighting
with your significant other.
Strip club.
The bar.
The pub.
That one bitch's house.
You guys just don't stay away
from the trouble, huh?
You guys head right to the temptation.
I see what you're doing here.
Did not go there.
These niggas,
they do hit a nice pub.
Yeah, pub.
A pub.
You get some support at a pub.
People listen to you.
It's a good environment.
I fell over.
I'm not leaving the fucking house
if I'm beefing my girl.
I'm not going to your wedding.
I'm not doing none of that shit.
I'm staying home
and fighting with my girl.
I took something different from that, yo. What'd you take from it? There's a girl. I'm not going to your wedding. I'm not doing none of that shit. I'm staying home and fighting with my girl. I took something different from that, yo.
What'd you take from it?
There's a reason why he couldn't go to that wedding.
He knew he couldn't go to that wedding.
B had already found out about the shit
and shorty was going to be at the wedding.
I'm not taking you to the spot
where she's going to be at.
You hot with me right now.
No, we're not going to this way.
It's going to be a problem. No.
Where'd you get that one from?
That's pretty provocative.
She was at the wedding. There's pictures
of the chick at the wedding.
Oh wait, see I'm not really in the hive.
So I don't know who this girl is.
I don't know who Becky with the girl.
I don't know any of these people.
Okay, allegedly, Becky
with the good hair was the Rachel Roy chick.
Who's Kim's friend.
Oh, Beyonce got to get over that.
That's old.
That's old. We got remarried.
We got to get over that one.
Wait, yo.
Man, wait a minute.
If you come stepping to me
about Rachel Roy,
that was mad old.
Who is Rachel Roy?
Rachel Roy.
Not Rachel to be confused
with Rachel Ray.
Rachel Ray is a totally different woman who has nothing to do with it.
Oh, wait.
Who's Rachel Ray?
Tell me.
Rachel Ray is like that.
Rachel Ray was fine, right?
She has great cookware.
Yeah, I was going to say.
I thought it was cooking related.
Yeah, she has great pots and pans.
Rachel Ray is a cook person?
She's like a TV personality celebrity.
So why do I know that name?
Say, Vaughn, what does Rachel Ray do for a living?
Look it up and then tell it to yourself.
I thought it was cooking, too, because I remember when Dame started first popping out doing interviews after the breakup.
Rachel Roy is into fashion.
I know that, but he would be like, yeah, I'm just working on Rachel Roy over here.
And I was like, damn, Dame is really hustling.
Are you in with Rachel Ray at cooking school?
Yeah, you was right.
I was right.
Thank you, Sam.
Well, why would she be at the wedding?
This is not Rachel Ray. Because she she be at the wedding This is not Rachel
Cause she's cooking for the wedding
This is Rachel Roy
Rachel Ray is not at the wedding
Alright I got it
Rachel Roy
They hired Rachel Ray to cook
Okay
Maybe he should have went
Why would Rachel
Can I see Rachel Roy please
Let me see this girl
No Rachel is
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Wait,
who am I looking at?
That's Rachel Roy.
Not,
not Dame Dash.
No,
that's Dame Dash's
baby mom.
That's Dame's ex-wife.
Yes.
Are we breaking
this news on the podcast?
No.
No.
That's no.
That's no.
That's no.
This is no.
Yeah,
that's no.
You seen before.
Now,
hold on,
let's back up.
This is all allegedly.
We don't know if her and Jay had anything.
I got to say that.
This is all allegedly.
But, yeah.
And she's Kim's friend.
Ice, see, this is why you're not even supposed to have a mic.
The three of us have relationships with Hov.
Like, we're nasty.
Word.
This is old.
Yeah, this is old.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Come get this out of here.
I want this phone.
Ice is nasty. I'm trying to ruin our whole relationship, Ice, with. Can we get this out of here? I want this home. Ice is nasty.
I'm trying to ruin our whole relationship, Ice,
with this Rachel Roy nonsense.
Everything is love.
Yeah, everything is love, Ice.
This is the best love album I've ever heard.
Wait a minute.
Let's whisper because nobody can hear us.
James Child's mom.
Yeah.
She is fine, though.
Yeah, no, Rachel is beautiful, yeah.
I was around when I was on Rockefeller.
Yeah, yeah.
Actually.
They dated for a day?
She was fine.
They dated for one day?
No, it was like three weeks.
Oh, okay.
I'm just saying, I was around in that mix.
Wow, I just connected a whole lot of shit that I won't talk about.
What? What? Jesus Christ. Wow I just connected A whole lot of shit That I won't talk about What Jesus
Are you kidding me
Allegedly
Oh man
What's next on the docket
Well
No no no
We're not leaving home yet
Okay
I didn't ask
Any compliments
I didn't
We didn't find
We didn't answer
The most Important Question About this album It's the best album of the year I didn't ask we didn't find we didn't answer the most
important question
about this album
it's the best album of the year
this is a story that will go down in the love
and hip hop history books
but what is the truth
what is a lie
now I heard this line on this
everything is love album
and mind you there was some really sharp Now I heard this line on this Everything Is Love album.
And mind you, there was some really sharp lyricism packed on that album.
It was in there.
But I heard this one line and it fucked me up for the whole day.
And I was trying to figure it out.
So I looked to Rory and Maul and I asked them.
And it seemed like I fucked them up with my question too,
so I will sit here and I will ask you guys.
Do we really believe
Hov is making the greens and the yams?
Better than your auntie.
I have a theory.
Listen.
No, no, no, honestly.
I'm white,
so the answer is yes.
I'm sure Hov does make better greens and yams
than my aunt.
Is Hov in the kitchen
making the fucking greens more?
Hov was in the kitchen
cooking crack.
And turning it into greens.
And if you can cook,
if you're great at
Cooking crack
I'm pretty sure
Collard greens
Is not that difficult
It's pretty easy
I think y'all read that wrong
That's just my theory
Yo
So you
You've never had
Hoves greens
No
No
Don't lie to me
No anytime
It would
Soul food sundaes
It was a shift
It was Rachel Ray's
No
This nigga
I'm just gonna pull out
Soul food sundaes Yeah that's what it was called Soul food sundaes Soul Food Sundays It was a shit day It was Rachel Ray's No This nigga was gonna pull out Soul Food Sundays
Yeah that's what it was called
Soul Food Sundays
Stadium
Stadium
Oh
Where was Soul Food Sundays?
At Jay's Old Crib
In
Fort Lee
Oh that was
Oh yeah that was when he was in Fort Lee
Oh yeah yeah
That was what like 02?
It's the Old Crib
I just made that up
It's the old 2001 Soul Food made that up It's the old crib
2001
Soul food Sundays
That's back when you were eating meat
Yeah for sure
Wasn't a vegan then huh
Wasn't so healthy then
Dietary man and shit
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I don't know if I don't know if Hov Greens is so good. We can find out. Nah, he might make good hov.
We can find out. Why wouldn't he?
Because where was where?
40 years out, we're going to find out.
Where is Hov making greens?
It's a crib.
I'm sure he has a lovely kitchen in his house.
I'm sure.
A couple.
Man, Beyonce got that nigga in there making greens.
Yeah, you know, so you just stand there and watch it a few times and go ahead, you do it.
And if you're going to haveiration from anybody To make good greens
It would be Beyonce
I'm not
I wouldn't trust
Hose greens and yams
No you're bugging
No
I don't think
I don't know if I would
Well I'll tell you this
I wouldn't say
If they were bad
I don't know if my tall niggas
In the kitchen
Get out the kitchen my nigga
Go sit down and relax
Reaching down to the stove
Yeah it just looks funny
That looks funny
It's difficult to cook
When you're tall
Greens And greens are tough to cook when you're tall.
Greens and greens are tough to cook.
Not really.
No, greens are tough to cook.
Well, you white.
Good greens are tough to cook.
I make good greens.
Nobody's rolling with Parks Makes Good.
All right, so let's make a survey.
Who makes better greens?
Parks or Hov?
You lie.
I'm going to just say, if Parks opened that fridge and pulled some greens out, I'm definitely not eating those greens.
I'm cool on Parks greens.
Who told Parks that Parks makes good greens?
A lot of people.
Yeah?
Were they all white?
No.
We might have to try that.
Hey, we'll try that. Was this like when Kim Kardashian invited all the celebrities over to tell lies on social media about her chicken?
It depends on who I'm cooking for and their dietary needs.
Parks don't have a microwave.
Why would you microwave the greens?
You wouldn't,
but I'm not trusting no nigga
who don't have a microwave
to make the greens.
Nah, microwave is nasty.
You can't...
We might have to...
No, we might have to...
We might have to watch Parks...
Listen, I'm just letting you know right now.
Erickson, what you doing this weekend?
I want to film Parks making collard greens.
I'm down.
I got to see that.
You're going to do it here?
Yeah we'll do it here With seasonings?
Sure
I have lots of seasonings
Many seasons
Now Parks trying to be
The tall white hole
I cook
I cook
I like cooking
But what if he makes
Good greens though?
Oh then I'm not
I don't want to talk to him again
If you know
Some things that
You just should know
About your friends
If Parks makes amazing greens I'm going to want This nigga greens every day But that's how you things That you just shouldn't know About your friends If Parks makes amazing greens
I'ma want this nigga greens everyday
But that's how you was
When I used to make grits and shrimp though
Like
So more can cook too?
And I used to whip up my grits
No this nigga Joe
Is such a loser
This nigga would wake me up
To make grits though
Like yo my nigga
You must make good grits
I don't mean to wake you up
But y'all need it
Yo wait
Why did you make grits?
Why did I know that?
I made it for breakfast one time.
All right.
Slow down.
All right.
Slow down.
I was living with Maul for years.
I was living with him for years and never saw his face for a breakfast, right?
Ever.
For a breakfast.
For a breakfast meal.
Ever.
You wake up at 5 a.m.,
so that's fair.
Which means I should be up
to see someone
if they're awake
and alert for breakfast.
No, you take your second nap
around 10 a.m.
All right, I'm rolling.
So where does breakfast fall
on the wake-up schedule?
Eight.
At the five or the...
No, eight.
What day of the week is it?
No, you just gotta wake up
and smoke 10 cigarettes
with some coffee.
Then you're ready for breakfast.
The proper way to start your day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm going to die soon.
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Turn this into a rock nation podcast.
I ain't going to take this thing on the road right when we start bubbling.
All right.
Off my name.
Yo, Joe would have wanted all y'all.
No.
No, no, he wouldn't have.
Joe would have wanted this shit empty.
No, he wouldn't have.
Charged for memorials at different venues.
Yeah, Joe, I wouldn't have wanted anything.
What was he talking about just now?
Cooking.
Oh, wait, so fucking Maul.
Oh, this is why I was judging Maul, I think.
And this is before I met my beautiful lady.
I think it was some women around.
And you started cooking.
And I think Maul just got out the bed one morning.
Girls like it when you cook.
The nigga might have had the hood robe,
like some Nike basketball shorts.
He came out the room wild one morning.
Didn't even say good morning to niggas.
He just went in the kitchen,
and I didn't know what he was doing.
I didn't know what he was doing.
I didn't ask,
because I didn't even see him in the morning.
And that nigga made grits.
Man, I tell you, those are some of the best grits I ever had.
I said, wait a minute, man.
You've been living here for years with the grit meal in the tuck?
Yeah.
Nah, now you got to make grits, nigga.
Get up.
Wake up.
We need grits.
I'm going to make the sausage and the bacon, and you make the grits, nigga. Damn up. Wake up. We need grits. I'm going to make the sausage and the bacon,
and you make the grits, nigga.
Damn, me and Moe was really like friends.
Yeah.
What happened to you, man?
Grits brought us closer.
Oh, man.
I didn't know Joe liked grits, though.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know he liked grits like that.
How do you fucking know Joe?
That's when I found out.
Nigga, I was flying Lisa here to make grits.
But that was around the same time. I was flying her here to make grits But that was around The same time
I was flying her here
To make grits
Yeah that was around
The same time
That I started making them
Because I didn't know
I didn't know you was
The grits guy
A lot of people
Don't eat grits
It's true
Like a lot of people
Don't eat grits
Well my family's
From South Carolina
Yeah no I know that
And they don't eat grits
With anything
Yeah
Yeah that's what
We was doing
Fried shrimp
It's funny you say that
Because when I tell
The chef niggas now
To make grits every day,
they look at me crazy.
What do people eat for breakfast
if they don't eat grits?
Tostones, personally.
Well, now they eat avocado and lemon slices.
Yo, who is Parks?
Tostones.
Tostones.
Greens.
His girl is Dominican, right?
I know, but Parks is white.
Whatever your girl is is what you are. He's making greens and tostones. Yeah. Whatever your girl is, he's making greens and tostones.
Whatever your girl is,
that's what you are.
You've had my chicken before at the Mayweather fight.
We made wings.
You niggas was cooking chicken wings at the Mayweather fight?
Yeah.
What was it? No, it was Pacquiao.
Y'all were at the fight?
No, no.
Any nigga that got a fucking fish fry at the fight
You are legendary
I'm about to say y'all niggas is legendary
We're not fine fish
Learn more about my guys
I would absolutely do that
Yeah all us got together and cooked
Chefed it up
Yeah and them wings was banging
We made a bunch of different flavors and all that shit
We was trying to create some honey mixed sauce
Yeah you did some honey shit
I did some regular hot wings And and then we did some plain wings.
Yo, I ain't going to lie.
When guys get together, man.
Cooking is not that hard, man.
It's really not.
Once you've seen it a couple times, you can kind of get it.
I worked in kitchens, too, for my whole teenage years.
Once you see it a couple times, you can do it.
Grits is all about just constantly stirring.
That's the trick with grits.
You know what's the hardest shit is rice
Yeah no
Rice is crazy
All of the little simple shit
That's kind of tough on the low
Rice is the hardest shit
I've seen a lot of people
Fuck up some rice
Rice is difficult
And grits
People burn rice very easily
It's so easy to burn
Gotta keep that shit on melt
Yeah
Keep that shit low
I wanna go somewhere
Where Hov's greens are
You gotta open a restaurant
Am I the only one
Hov We might have to start
Hov gotta make the
Hov greens
Greens for the next
Roc Nation brunch
Like Sylvia's
Hov's
Hov's greens
Hov's greens
Hov's
Like Sylvia's
Like Sylvia's
Yeah
Hov's
Remember Sylvia's?
No not Hov's
Like Sylvia's
Hov's
Like Sylvia's
That just sells greens Sylvia's was in Was like Sylvia's. That just sells greens.
Sylvia's was in Harlem, and they was rocking,
but then you walked in the supermarket,
and they had some canned Sylvia's right there.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, the canned Sylvia's was real bad.
Sylvia robbed a lot of your Harlem niggas.
I ain't going to lie.
Your Harlem niggas swore by a lot of bullshit.
Talk about it more.
I didn't say it.
Sylvia's wasn't the greatest back when niggas was pumping it up.
I was never a big Sylvia's person.
No.
Never.
I was never a big Sylvia's person.
Yeah, I agree.
All right, so we'll get around the whole.
I was an M&G's.
M&G's was my shit.
Oh, M&G's.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
M&G's was the shit.
I was going to say where my shit shit was but then that would show my
age is some real old shit emojis been closed for years i know what i was saying like one fish two
fish the oh the first one yeah that's the second one um all right so we'll get back to holes greens
what what else is happening what what else what else is happening interesting in the world
oh shit let me address this while while maul and rory and parks figure out what else is happening? What else is happening interesting in the world?
Oh, shit, let me address this while Marlon and Rory and Parks figure out what else is interesting in the world.
Let me address this, man, because I've seen a lot of people.
There's a felonious report running around.
A what?
Felonious report. And this report says that a fan was throwing up for long periods of time at a festival because Post Malone smelled like pure shit.
Whether that's true or not, it's hilarious.
We know how much of a fan you are.
Yeah, that's your guy.
So you can tell us.
Half the interview on the red carpet was of Post Malone's scents. Yeah, that's your guy. So you can tell us. Half the interview on the red carpet
was about Post Malone's scents.
Well, because I was shocked that he smelled good.
Because, I mean, if you just look at him,
I mean, I guess I feel him.
He looks like somebody that should smell like shit.
White, yeah.
But no, Parks.
No, no.
Y'all think he's going to lose us a day.
No, I'm not saying white people.
Well, some white people.
Some white people smell like...
Some white people smell like hot dog water.
Yeah, like bologna.
He looked like he smelled like that, but he didn't.
And maybe it's because we was at an award show.
That's the wrong place to smell like hot dog water.
But he smelled great.
So I don't understand what this fan is saying.
And let me just say that when I smelled Post Malone, he smelled marvelous.
Thank you for putting these rumors to rest.
I think it's important.
Because the internet needed to know.
If it was a wild rumor running around about you, you being my man, I would try to clarify it.
Thanks, man.
Anytime.
Appreciate that.
I made the air on for you.
All right, so listen.
This is what we will do.
Let's premiere music.
Okay.
We did that for Bird, Ty, and Jeremiah.
It seemed to go over pretty well.
Yeah.
Yeah, it did go over well and and that song's hard
that's a great record um i received i received a record and i asked if i could play it for you guys
because i'm a huge fan of this young man yeah me too huge yeah black i'm a huge fan huge huge fan of black uh i think rory
one of y'all might have put me on maybe both y'all put me on i was just a little late i played him
very early in sleeper pics but ever since that project came out right i i i've been highly
anticipating what he would do next only because
i thought that sound while a lot of people do that sound he does it really he does it and different
yeah like it's hard to explain because he's actually good at singing and rapping yeah and
he's saying something and you can understand what he's saying yeah yeah he's you can hear him clearly. And he don't really leave his comfort zone.
So he never sounds strange or forced or out of pocket.
He just always sounds right.
So I was wondering how his next release would sound.
Because I loved his first project so much.
He put out that joint with Timbaland that was on some soundtrack.
I like that song, Grab the Wheel.
I like that Grab the Wheel song a lot.
I didn't see a lot of other people talking about it.
Maybe it didn't get a lot of burn.
Shit gets buried on soundtracks sometimes.
Good records.
Yeah, they don't put a lot behind that type of shit.
If you put all the dope songs from soundtracks on a fucking compilation somehow,
there's been a lot of really dope soundtracks.
Or just songs from soundtracks that get buried because they
put it next to some other bullshit. Yeah, that
Miguel song that he got on that Superfly
soundtrack that's really a future
album is crazy.
But you would never know unless you check them for
soundtracks. And this ain't the 90s, so I don't
really check for soundtracks anymore.
So anyway, Black is back.
This song is
coming out this Friday.
That tour starts when?
Today.
Huh?
Who's the other tour with?
Chris Brown.
Chris Brown and her.
Kid, her, and Jacquez.
Wait, Rich the Kid is on that tour?
He better be careful.
He better just stay in the dressing room.
Don't run around too damn much.
At least get a credit card, bro.
Stay away from Starbucks.
All right, all right, guys.
All right.
Y'all are horrible.
So I'm going to play this record
that will be out Friday.
You can purchase it.
You can stream it.
You can do all of that good shit.
Buy it, though.
I just bought the
Everything Is Love album album by the way.
Yeah, me too.
It's available for purchase
on other places now.
I was surprised. I only
say that because I think they should start making those announcements.
They should let you know
when it's available on the other streaming
services.
The platforms themselves made the announcement.
Apple did it. They pushed the notification through
everybody.
She's the only one
that follows Apple
Music.
I use Apple Music
but I don't follow
Apple Music.
He does follow
Apple Music, right?
I do.
I think this is crazy.
Follow Apple Music.
Alright, so we
going to play this
record, Brand New
Black.
This is called
Switch.
I'm thinking about
the Yamaha.
I'm thinking about
the Yamaha.
Get away from all the camera. I'm over it. Donaha I'm thinking about the Yamaha Get away from all the cameras I'm over it, don't wanna fantasize
Play this round and corner ride
Hit me right between the eyes
It's funny when they switch and pick a side
Ain't nobody gotta go through what I'm going
through, no But it seems like they all know what I'm
supposed to do, so Let's switch bodies for a day, you can be
me and I can be you Juggle the pile of shit that's bound to come
through You can have it, since it's automatic.
Now switch.
Tell me how you feel.
You could be somebody else.
Now switch.
It wasn't what you thought it was.
Another story to tell. Well, well, well, well, well. That sounds great.
Sounds like him.
That shit is hard.
Why am I so shocked that that sounds so much like him?
A lot of people hit that soft or slow.
And go with some whole other sound.
Funny you say that, Parks.
Who was I talking to the other day?
Sophomore slump is a real thing still.
It hasn't left.
I know it's not spoken about,
but it's a lot of niggas having a real hard time
with that sophomore project
or just trying to get something out.
So I'm glad you said that.
Let me bring this record back one more time
just because it starts so abruptly and i was talking so i'm thinking about a yamaha
this is new black this is switch this is out this friday They just round the corner out They hit me right between the eyes
It's funny when they switch and pick a side
Ain't nobody gotta go through what I'm going through, no
But it seems like they all know what I'm supposed to do, so
If anybody's for a day, you can be me and I can be you
Juggle the polish and it's gonna come through
You can have it, since it's automatic
Now switch, tell me how it feel
To be somebody else
Now switch
It wasn't what you thought it was
Another story to tell
Well, well, well, well, well
Well, well, well, well, well
Well, well, well, well, well Well, well, well
Well, well, well, well, well
So, tell me lies, tell me lies, tell me lies
You were not, ride or die, you were not
Entertain these other bitches and I will not Entertain these other niggas, you know that
Will you hold that? Will you put it up safe or will you fold that?
If I find out you're cheating me, just know that I'ma kill you in that hole, ain't no going back
Tell what you told me and how could I blame her? A small town girl, now she all famous
Maybe it's my fault, nah
Ain't like I've been living in the dark, nah
I told you everything from the start
And you the one that had to change your heart
Girl, you can have it
After all the damage
Now switch
Will you tell me how it feels To be somebody else?
Now switch, it wasn't what you thought it would be Another story to tell Well, well, well, well, well
Well, well, well, well, well
Well, well, well, well, well
I'm white
Does Black, uh
Do you guys know if Black has a date set?
Cause he's going on tour now
I'm coming soon
Well, he's going on tour
I'd imagine he's just doing
Free Black again.
I mean, he just records too.
Yeah, probably do a little bit of both.
Sprinkled some new shit.
Because it's tough to try to finish an album when you're
on tour with Chris Brown.
And then leave with a single.
So I am a little curious to see.
He's been low for a little bit though. He probably won't.
I really like that kid a lot.
I fuck with Black.
I do, too.
He's very talented.
I fuck with their whole roster on the low.
Wait, who's their roster?
Summer Walker is over there, too.
I get it.
She's a new act.
A lot of that R&B sounding shit.
That camp found Ludahuman as well, who we both like.
Oh, yeah.
I like it a lot.
Yeah.
I like what they're doing.
Black is getting Frank Ocean out of here.
You said that.
You said that before.
You said that a few days ago.
That's what Frank Ocean is supposed to be putting out right now.
That sound.
That exact music.
I don't disagree.
Why did Frank...
I don't know.
What's Frank doing? Frank... Frank, wow. I know I was a Why did Frank... I don't know. What's Frank doing?
Frank...
Frank, wow.
I know I was a little...
I've been harsh on Frank.
It's funny that this conversation
just follows that black record
because black's manager
who I speak to often,
Justice Whatup,
he loves Frank.
He doesn't?
I don't.
You don't love Frank?
No.
I don't like Frank Ocean.
You bugging? That just changed. Okay don't love Frank Ocean? No. I don't like Frank Ocean. You bugging.
That just changed.
Okay.
I like Frank Ocean.
I don't think that Frank Ocean is the genius that I once thought he was.
I think he's still a genius.
I never thought it.
I think he just hasn't put out.
I mean, I like Blonde, but I didn't love Blonde the same way I loved.
Blonde is not indicative of genius artistry.
Channel Orange was genius to me
I'm channel orange channel orange was genius on the caliber of his two projects and I thought
his first album was genius yeah nostalgia ultra absolutely uh no the album the mixtape was genius
oh nostalgia ultra and channel orange I'm sorry I confused the two I thought both of those projects
was great I really enjoyed mall story about hearing that album for the first time when he was
in the shower and then that Tom Hanks song came on.
Tom Hanks.
I thought I deleted that out of my iTunes.
Ran out the shower.
And that song came on.
I had to jump out the shower.
You was wet still, too.
Yeah, I did.
You nasty.
I thought I deleted it. Wrapped himself up in the curtain, jump off the shower. You was wet still too. You nasty.
Wrapped himself up in the curtain, fell on the floor.
Nigga almost electrocuted himself touching his phone wet.
I thought I deleted it. I ain't know what happened.
That song found its way back.
I commend Freak Ocean for pulling that scam
on Def Jam though.
That was genius.
Maybe he's still a genius.
I gotta hear some more.
I'm just sick of the new trend of when there's no drums and some shotty sounds.
We call a nigga a genius already.
Nah, we got to hear more genius shit.
With drums.
Yeah.
But if Frank was doing that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It sounds like him.
Yeah.
Like, it sounds like, that sounds like him yeah like it sounds like that sounds like channel orange that sounds like
when i heard frank's mixtape like that was that sound just a little darker it's a little it's
it's more i guess current that was definitely my best summer ever when that when that frank
ocean mixtape dropped yeah it was it was crazy. That was compound era.
2012.
And Weekend,
House of Balloons dropped.
Yeah.
Oh my God. And Cocaine 80s.
That whole summer
was crazy for R&B.
Cocaine 80s,
Weekend,
and Frank Ocean.
Do you remember it?
Yeah, that was a wild
lineup of albums
to come out
near each other.
Those were the perfect albums
to be right alongside
my threesomes and Mollys.
House of Balloons,
that was threesome
and Molly music.
For sure.
Oh yeah,
had to be on coke.
And then he went
and fucking got
with a good team.
Did shit the right way.
Yeah,
he got his life together,
got a normal haircut.
Went to AA.
Yeah, I hate when niggas do that, man. I hate when niggas get his life together, got a normal haircut. Went to AA.
Yeah, I hate when niggas do that, man.
I hate when niggas get their life together, man.
Yeah, man.
It's to the detriment of the music.
No, the one album was dope, though, after that.
The first album wasn't good, but then the second album was good.
I didn't really fuck with Starboy that much, but.
Yeah, I agree.
He still got some big fucking records.
Yeah, for sure.
No, the Beauty, whatever.
Yeah, Beauty Behind the Madness was the one.
That album was really good.
That was the one.
That's pretty close to being a personal classic for me.
I played that record a lot.
Star Boy was the one.
I'm a motherfucking star boy.
That was the pop.
That's what he did?
No, say it again.
I'm not sure what song he was talking about.
I'm a motherfucking star boy.
That's when he did that, right?
Yeah, that was it.
I think that was on the Starboy album.
Fuck you, Roy.
How come when I be singing songs like y'all laughing at me?
Because you can't sing, Joe.
But y'all can't recognize the song.
No, we know what song it's on.
Oh, what is it?
I can't sing.
But your rendition is like a...
Well, let's hear your rendition.
No, I don't want my...
I'm not putting my rendition.
Maul was in the choir, man.
Maul can sing.
He can sing.
Maul be trying to sweep under the rug
that he was in the school choir.
Word.
I don't sweep it under the rug.
Nah, you do be trying to.
It's just over with.
No, it's not.
He was in the school choir, by the way.
He was in the choir school.
He traveled.
He was on the...
Wait, wait, Maul.
We got to get into you a little bit.
He was on the AAU team of choirs.
They traveled.
Yo, and he tried to switch his life around and learn sports after.
Y'all got some jokes today.
Nah, you got to stop trying to know sports now, my nigga.
What you mean?
Tell us the harmonies the niggas is using.
I don't want to hear none of that basketball.
Don't try to Greg Popovich me.
Don't try to tell me where Kyrie is going
tell me what's going on
I'm not trying to tell you
what Kyrie is doing
now tell me what's going on
with the choir
tell us about Motown
on Broadway
there's nothing going on
with the choir
tell us about Jersey Boys
more than you can buy
because it was other tough niggas
back then in the choir
like back then
it was tough niggas
in the choir too
it was
so we don't judge you too much
it's alright it was some scammers and drug dealers back then It was tough niggas In the choir too It was So we don't judge you too much It's alright
It was some scammers
And drug dealers back then
That was a big choir though
Early on
No Mom was in
Mom was in like
What's the important choir?
Harlem Boys Choir
Harlem Boys Choir
Oh yeah
Yeah
Used to say that shit
In the 80s
Yeah that shit was like
Being a Mason
Yeah
Close to it
Yeah they be performing
At Yankee Stadium and shit
Close to it
Yeah
A Mason.
Wait.
Being in the Harlem Boys Choir was like being a Mason?
Yeah.
Oh, man.
That was funny.
I couldn't beef with my first baby moms because her dad was a Mason.
Oh, yeah.
No, you're not beefing with them probably.
You know, most women say, wait till I get my sisters or my cousins.
Wait till I get my Mason father my cousins. Wait till I get my
Mason father coming
to Ashmore.
Yeah, yeah.
He shows up
the whole chapter.
Yeah.
They have great
cookouts too.
Tough to understand
as a 17-year-old
what the Masons
are all about.
You learned real quick.
I did, I did, I did.
Hey, wait,
what are we talking
about here?
Fucking with y'all.
Oh, do y'all care
what Father's Day happened, nobody said a word? Happy Father's Day, man. Thank you. here? Fucking with y'all. Oh, do y'all care what Father's Day happened?
Nobody said a word.
Happy Father's Day, man.
Thank you.
I think I said that to you on Father's Day.
You did.
You too, Ice.
Ice, happy Father's Day.
Ice isn't a father.
You can tell me happy birthday.
That's good enough.
Oh, shit.
It's Ice's birthday.
So?
Fuck.
Fuck Ice's birthday.
You're right.
So, anyway, next.
Why was Ice...
Y'all... Ice is the only birthday that the group chat acknowledged. You're right. So anyway, next. Why was Ice... Ice is the only birthday
that the group chat acknowledged seriously.
Like, yo, happy birthday, Ice.
You good?
You having a good day?
That'd be Johnny.
Yeah.
Johnny takes birthdays very seriously in the group chat.
Johnny has to get the fuck out of our group chat.
What are our plans?
Any plans?
Johnny, Johnny.
We don't care about Ice's birthday, my nigga.
We don't got no birthday dinner?
Yeah.
He don't even care really.
Yeah, we can all try to split the check at and cause chaos at the end.
Yeah, Johnny is just a friend that says what he thinks should be said.
He's that white friend.
Yeah.
Yeah, fuck Ice's birthday.
Anyway.
The nerve of Johnny to wish him a happy birthday.
Because he always pop in with a birthday I knew nothing about. And then I felt bad. his birthday. Anyway. The nerve of Johnny to actually wish him a happy birthday.
Because he always pop in with a birthday
I knew nothing about.
And then I felt bad
because Ice just hit me
at 7 a.m.
Like, yo, what's up?
Yo, what y'all doing?
I'm like, nothing, nigga.
Get off my phone.
7 a.m.
I was like,
I got a podcast.
It's Tuesday.
He was like,
oh, true, I forgot.
And then here comes
Johnny two hours later.
Everybody,
guess what today is? It's Ice's birthday. He was like, oh, true, I forgot. And then here comes Johnny two hours later. Everybody, guess what today is?
It's Ice's birthday.
Johnny did a voice note and sang.
Yeah, Johnny put this shit in the group chat where confetti is falling.
I'm like, oh, what a loser.
All right, but that's not what I was trying to talk about.
All right, Trey, my son dissed me on Father's Day in New York.
That was really special to me.
Yeah, that was fun.
Yeah, that was great, man.
Yeah, let me play some fairy music.
Nah, Trey did that, man.
I was pleasantly surprised at how well Trey did in that performance.
I still can't believe he got up there and did that.
That was great.
No preparation, nothing.
Just last minute because the crowd chanted his name.
I'm going to say what they're trying to say, but they're being nice about it because that's my kid.
He was way better than I thought he would be.
A lot.
Especially after he went in the back and then
he came out a little nervous like he didn't really
want to do it or I don't know what record. I was like,
oh, this might not end too good. And he went
out there. He rapped it. Didn't
miss a syllable. He remembered,
yo, my dad is right here. He got the fuck out of here
is higher too.
Yeah.
He wasn't stuttering.
No.
His asthma didn't bother him.
He had perfect diction.
I think he gave me
the finger on the bar
that said,
fuck you, dad.
Yeah, he really leaned
into that bar.
He was moving around.
You noticed it too, right?
Yeah, and I really
fucking hate you.
I was like.
He turned around
and looked at me.
Yeah.
He wanted to make sure you knew.
And then the crowd heard that bar perfectly.
They were like, oh.
Trey has really good rapping hands, though, when he performs.
Yeah, he was moving around.
I was looking at his rapping hands.
He got his rapping hands together.
Genetics.
Yeah, he has rapping hands together.
I've always had pretty good rapper hands.
Yeah.
I know nobody wants to say that here, but my rapper hands are pretty awesome.
As opposed to some rappers who have no idea what they should be doing with their hands
when they're rapping i've seen them and if you're looking for it oh it's really funny to look at
look at what look at rappers try to do stuff with their hands that's all um wait so so that happened
on tour right so let me talk about tour really quickly because like i said earlier i learned a
lot while i was on tour and while we were on tour
we did meet and greets let me just say that was a
great idea that I was not
going to do because I'm so used to how
Joe Budden meet and greets go
Joe Budden meet and greets and
the Joe Budden podcast meet and greets were very
different let me just tell y'all that
nobody was coming up to y'all
suicidal needing help
well except for Eddie
outside of eddie
but a little while ago on this podcast and and and how podcasts make money seemed to be a big
question uh when we opened up the floor for questions right a big part of this podcast has
always been to just do shit from the heart and out of passion right but secretly in
my mind because Rory and Maul are like really really cool I've been trying to come up with ways
to actually get a couple of dollars while still maintaining our coolness well I've never been
cool so while maintaining y'all's coolness and I think I asked y'all one time when I was talking about cash apping a stripper, if we indeed should get tips from fans through cash app.
And y'all said no. And I was like, cool. Right. And then we go on the road and we do these meet and greets.
And I'll be honest with you guys. A bunch of fans came up to me and said,
they try to give it up.
Why don't you let me cash app you guys money?
Did y'all hear that question at all to y'all?
I heard it.
What was your response?
Did you say, nah, man.
Just laughed it off.
That's exactly what I said
okay well I said
nah man too
yeah
we just don't do it like that
and then they said
nah no no
you don't understand
right
no no
let me cash out you some money
like they were insistent upon it
which made me leave and say
well how much integrity do I have?
Let me sit and really think this through here.
So, why don't I just give out my Cash App name?
Go ahead.
Why don't everybody just give out their Cash App names?
All the strippers are doing it.
Oh, my God.
We can't be convinced.
Oh, yeah.
Don't lead with that.
That wasn't my lead. That was like my fourth point. I'm never doing what all the strippers are doing it. Oh my God. We can't be convinced. Oh yeah, don't lead with that. That wasn't my lead.
That was like my fourth point.
I'm never doing
what all the strippers
are doing, Joe.
No,
that was like my fourth point.
What I'm saying is
I have Cash App.
Like,
it's one of those things
where I actually enjoy using.
Like,
I use it.
Yeah,
we'll post our Cash App names
on the description
of the video
and let's just see
if they really tip. We'll see this experiment. See if they handle it. video. Let's just see if they really tip us.
We'll see this experiment.
Let's see what the experiment is.
Let's see what the experiment is.
I wouldn't mind if a listener bought me a beer on Friday.
I'll take it.
You know Rory's Irish ass would love a beer.
He would love for you guys to Cash App him some pub money.
And I know you'd love a Lucy from the gas station from a fan.
If you get a 50-cent cash app tip, that's crazy.
That's very funny, Rory.
My bad.
Joe Bonner, Lucy is sick.
Who sells Lucys now?
Spot right around the corner.
Everybody.
They got them.
For real?
How much is a Lucy right now?
I think they're a buck now.
Yeah, probably a dollar now.
Nigga.
I wish I would pay a dollar.
That's not bad.
That's not bad.
In New York, a cigarette, if you break down the pack,
it's damn near a dollar.
That's almost cost.
Fans, if you cash at me some money, do not put for Lucy.
That's all you're getting.
Yeah, don't put for Lucy.
Now, if you don't have Cash App and you're listening to this, go download that shit.
It's a good app.
It's a good app.
I say that because it has different tax breaks than Venmo.
Yeah, and you can get your money quicker with Cash App.
That's why I switched over.
It's really easy, too, because it's just got your phone number.
So if you just look up someone's phone number, it pops up.
Da-da-da-da.
Ah, yeah, you do get your money quicker.
That's why I stopped fucking with Venmo.
Venmo's creepy.
Takes a little while.
Venmo got that creepy timeline, too.
It shows you what other people are exchanging money over.
I don't want to know what other people are doing.
But wait, can't you cut that off?
It don't matter.
It's still weird.
Either way, Cash App, don't do that shit.
Creepy.
I don't need a timeline of where money's going.
I don't want to see what my friends are doing.
Yeah, I don't want to see a money message board.
Yeah, Cash App is way cooler.
So Cash App, if you do not
know, you don't have it, it is the number one ranked
app in
finance. I don't even care
about Cash anymore. I don't.
Swag you out.
Rich the Kid could use some advice from you.
I mean... Hey, Rich the Kid could use some advice from you. I mean.
Hey, Rich the Kid needs cash app.
That's what I'm saying.
Rich the Kid, if you don't go download cash app and stop running in Tory Briggs' house with all that shit on.
It's a great house to run into though.
I mean, I guess if you're getting your Tory bricks about to go to her house
swag together you're going to put your jewelry on
go grab 50 grand
go grab 50 no
I'm not going to go grab 50 grand
Tory's pretty
I'm not taking 50 grand
I understand it
yeah
well look where we were at though
I'm not rolling with that.
What else is happening?
What else is good about Cash App?
Yeah, you get 15% off shit like Chipotle.
I didn't even know that.
I didn't know that either.
That's swag.
Really?
Going to Chipotle after this.
Shit.
Yeah, no.
And Shake Shack.
I like Shake Shack.
Oh, if you didn't have Cash App, man, you better get it now.
Wait.
Shake Shack ain't cheap, baby.
So, so far, I won't get robbed at Tory Briggs' house.
That's a plus.
I get 15% off Shake Shack.
And Chipotle.
Oh, I'm on board.
Yeah.
Of the app I already have.
More reasoning.
These are uses for the app that I was not aware of.
So, I say all that to say, if you are a fan and you are insistent
upon tipping
the gentleman
from this podcast,
I think all of us,
well,
my,
my,
my,
my cash app name
is
Mouse
Button.
That's my old
Twitter name, too.
So,
tip a nigga a dollar.
Y'all playing. I'll take. I'll take more than a dollar.
My cash app
is Rory Farrell. Don't be proud.
R-O-R-Y-F-A-R-R-E-L-L.
Erickson can put it right at the bottom
right here. You're looking at the screen.
Yeah, put my cash app right at the
bottom. Play TLCs ain't too proud to beg.
Put mine at the bottom.
Hey!
Mo, join us. Join TLCs. Ain't too proud to beg. Put Mines at the bottom. Hey! Come on, join us.
Join us, man.
Get a tip.
This hurts, but fuck it.
Nah, niggas like you, man.
Mines is after my nephew's Jelly Bean 221.
That's my cash app.
All right.
I'm Parks Music.
Simple.
Same shit.
Jelly Bean.
Wait, your shit's Parks Music?
Same shit.
Easy.
I might cash app you guys a few dollars, man.
I think so.
I probably owe you niggas a couple dollars.
I'm going to Chipotle.
So there's that.
You want to get into this Rich the Kid, Rich the Kid cash app?
Non-cash app carrying Rich the Kid.
Yeah, let's get into a story about a nigga that needs cash app.
I don't even think Uzi might have hit him with his pocketbook if it wasn't for cash app.
That could have stopped a lot of this. I forgot he got hit with a pocketbook. I made that up. I don't even think Uzi might have hit him with his pocketbook if it wasn't for Cash App. That could have stopped a lot of this.
I forgot he got hit with a pocketbook.
I made that up. I don't think that happened.
I wonder if he could get a discount on Starbucks, too.
I hate Starbucks.
Me, too. Shit is nasty.
Rich the Kid should hate Starbucks, too.
Wait.
Time out, because that's not right.
Rich the Kid came out and made an announcement
that said Tory Briggs did not set him up.
That's good.
How he know?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
I was thinking the same thing.
How would Rich the Kid know if Tory Briggs set him up?
She said, hey, look, I didn't do it.
Tory got the eye jammy on purpose
just to show that she wasn't really part of it.
That's a sacrifice, but...
Make it look real.
Sometimes you might have to take it.
Well, if you were involved in that,
I could see how that would happen.
How much someone got to pay you
to catch the iJammy?
If he got 50 grand, yeah.
How much they got to pay?
Punch me down half of that.
Half?
Yeah, punch me in the face.
They're not giving you half.
They're definitely not going to give you half.
They're not giving you half
for the iJammy.
I'm setting him up.
It's my crib.
I'm the one that texted him
to bring the cash. I'm not giving Rory half. You're not getting half. It's my crib. I'm the one that texted him to bring the cash.
I'm not giving Rory half.
You're not getting half.
5%.
No way.
To get punched in the face 5%?
Just saying, man.
Fuck that.
To get punched in the face for 5% is crazy.
It's a commission.
I'm not getting punched in my face for 5%.
I'm going to bleed on my own carpet while y'all take his jewelry.
No, fuck that.
5%?
Fuck you.
Fuck that.
I wonder if they still talk.
I wonder if he's still beat.
Yeah, more importantly.
That's an odd-looking
couple.
This is the era of odd-looking couples, though.
Tori
Frickson Young and May was an odd-looking couple, too.
I was rooting for them.
I was a little disappointed when I heard about this. You've seen the root for everybody.
I was rooting for them.
They root for a lot of people.
I thought they were a good match.
Did y'all see T.I.
helping some young lady
sit down next to him?
I don't know why.
That was some grimy shit
whoever filmed that.
That was some shysty bullshit whoever filmed that. That was some
sheisty bullshit.
I asked y'all a while ago
how do niggas cheat nowadays
and y'all thought
I was just trying to find out
how to cheat on my queen
when I wasn't.
I was saying
these fans
will record you
anywhere
at any time
doing anything
with no regard.
Yeah.
But that was a nasty record.
They was in a closet between a cracked door like they were in a closet that's what it looked like like the fan was in the closet that shit was crazy
oh i thought you meant ti i thought he was in the clear no he wasn't the clear no he wasn't at the
clear port no that's the problem when you when you think you're in the clear you gotta make sure
you're in the clear you gotta check the make sure you're in the clear. You got to check the closet? Yeah, all doors closed.
That was a pretty clear closet video.
Like, what a
nice... There's no jackets in there?
What a nice crack between the door.
Like, I saw everything.
Like, the door was open and somebody was like
200 feet down the hall and zoomed in on the door.
What a gentleman T.I. was.
Yeah, just offered a seat.
Is that cheating?
You know women make up anything for cheating.
If you exist in a world of women, you're cheating.
You're right.
Like where you were breathing.
Yeah, well, we can't get a clear-cut cheating definition.
Well, that's not cheating, but there's some shit that's not cheating that could make for a long day.
Oh, yeah.
Helping a chick to sit down is a long day.
You're not just getting away with that one.
Yeah, no.
See, I don't.
You're not in your house that night.
See, I don't.
That couch wasn't even that low.
Right.
I don't play like that.
Because if your queen find out about the shit that you did while you still out and she decided to text you about it, I'm not coming home.
You going to make
the most of it?
I'm not coming home
to danger.
I'm not coming home
to trouble.
I don't know why
women always do that.
They want to text you
and let you know
that there's problems.
Oh, okay.
See if you avoid that situation. Don't wait Oh, okay. Let me avoid that situation.
Don't wait up, honey.
What else happened outside of Rich the Kid and Tory Briggs?
Oh, the T.I. shit.
Oh, we talked about them both.
Yeah.
Jada said that Will Smith goes on vacations with his ex-wife.
Swag.
That is swag.
Yeah. It's swag. That is swag. Yeah.
It's swag.
She lets him.
Yeah.
Oh, the movie awards was last night.
The movie awards was last night.
Do y'all care?
Y'all don't give a fuck, right?
No, I was happy for Tiffany Haddish hosting it.
I don't really care about the awards.
MTV?
MTV movie awards.
I didn't even know.
I didn't know they still existed.
Yeah, no.
I didn't watch it, but I'm just happy.
It expanded.
It's TV and movie now.
Oh, okay.
I didn't know they still existed either, but they emailed a few weeks ago asking me if
I would be the voice guy.
I mean, you did Daredevil.
This had to be the next step.
It's true.
Back after a commercial break.
Let's hear it, Joe.
What's the script?
Welcome to the 2018 MTV.
I turned the channel already.
That was your cigarette call.
Wait, wait, wait.
I turned the channel already.
Press last.
Press last.
Yo, press last.
Let's go back to the game.
Last be saving the day.
I don't even know what channel was last.
Oh, when you go to last and it's not the last you watch.
I wasn't watching that.
Where's the game?
Send me every bullshit on last.
Last.
Hit the last.
They need like four options for last.
Like not that last.
The last before that one.
That's a good idea.
Yeah, double last.
Yeah.
For real.
Like a hockey assist. Yeah. Like I hate that when you, the last is like dog's a good idea. Yeah, double lash. Yeah. For real.
Like a hockey assist.
Yeah.
I hate that when the lash is like dog and a bounty hunter.
Who's watching this?
You.
Where's the game at?
Oh, man.
It's funny you say that. The other day, I think I might have was channel surfing.
And dog, the bounty hunter, was on one of the channels.
And I felt bad.
I was like, God damn, they got this nigga still hunting about 90 years old. Dog don't even
look the same.
Dog can't catch nobody now.
No, Dog don't catch. Nah, he sent his sons out.
You see he got his sons.
Dog just showed up when
his son got him on the ground and started cursing at him.
Put your hands behind your backs, you motherfucker.
Like, nigga. Your son just
ran this nigga down for 20 blocks.
You ain't run him down.
Yo, that's funny.
He still got that wild ponytail?
Yeah, the mullet. And the Oakley's?
And his wife got it.
And the Oakley's.
They the mullet gang.
They both got the Oakley's.
He don't look like he'd pay his bills either
I'd be tight
if someone
that looked like that
tracked me down
for not paying some shit
he put his money
he gonna track you down
dog would have a hard time
catching me
I ain't letting no
90 year old nigga
in a vest catch me
I'm out of here
somehow I think we might have covered everything oh wait no the music award catch me. I'm out of here.
Somehow, I think we might have covered everything.
Oh, wait, no, the music award.
That's what I was talking about before y'all fucking... Movie awards. Oh, yeah, y'all caught off mine?
Your movie voice.
Welcome to the
2018
MTV TV
and Movie Awards
starring...
Then it was a pause.
Tiffany Haddish.
Another pause.
Will Smith.
You're giving them too much for free right now.
That's true.
Nick Jonas.
Wait.
I know this is like an urban podcast with the exception of Rory,
but why does MTV keep trying to force Nick Jonas on us?
I don't even know who that is.
They've been trying to make him the new Justin Timberlake for about five years now.
No, he's the new, what's London Bobby Valentino name?
Oh, Derulo.
Oh, Jason Derulo.
Jason Derulo.
Yeah, he's like, they're trying to do Nick Jonas like Jason Derulo.
Every year they're forcing him on us with a new song.
Jason Derulo's from London?
No, no, no.
He said, I'd never do that.
Where is he from?
He's like German Bobby Valentino.
German.
I think he's from America.
Who, Jason Derulo?
I think so.
No.
I don't know.
Yeah, I thought he was from Florida.
Yeah, that motherfucker's from Tallahassee.
Fam, Jason Derulo is from Tallahassee.
Just because he wears European pants doesn't make him not from America.
Yo, these niggas in this high fashion stuff.
I don't know, man.
So you didn't get the gig or you passed on it?
Because that was pretty good.
These niggas got to stop lying about where they're from.
Still stuck on where son from? Jason Derulo's from Tallahassee?
I would have never guessed that.
I just made Tallahassee up.
Oh, then stop saying that.
He said Florida.
What part of Florida?
He's from,
come on, he's from Merrimark.
You don't know where that is?
I thought it was dope
that Tachanga gave
the Waffle House guy his award.
The guy who saved the shooter.
Well, at least someone gave him a fucking award.
Yeah, I saw that.
That was real dope.
I thought that was dope.
I didn't understand how Killmonger won Best Villain over Thanos.
Was that because of the whole black on the-
MTV's got to stop pandering to the black audience.
No, you don't have to stop pandering to the black audience.
But you got to just do it at the appropriate time.
Killmonger wasn't a better villain than Thanos.
No.
Yeah, no, I'm not rolling with that.
What are you talking about?
Did they see the movie?
But who are you going to actually hand the award to when you say Thanos?
To homeboy that was Thanos.
Yeah, right.
I wanted to see him walk up there
without his Thanos suit.
He wasn't even invited
to the fucking awards.
I wanted to see him
walk up there
without the Infinity Stones.
Like, I wanted to see him
at his normal height.
I wanted to see how tough
he is in real life.
That's what I wanted to see.
Oh, speaking of fighting
and fights,
the Canelo Triple G fight
is back on?
So they say. September? I'm not even following by. Yes, you are. You're following that fight. The Canelo Triple G fight is back on? So they say.
September? I'm not even following. Yes, you are.
You're following that fight. You're following
Canelo Alvarez versus Triple G.
Just basketball at this point?
The World Cup now.
Who's your country? Aren't you cultured?
You better than us. It's the World Cup.
And we in the world.
You don't watch the World Cup?
I'm going to watch some of it.
Oh, that's when they try to make you not sound
cultured. Wait, you don't watch it?
Well, Steinway be like, okay.
Yeah, that's the only reason why I'm asking that.
It's because it's crazy. The bars be crazy.
Yes, I mean the bars.
It was some good World Cup games.
Yeah. It was some pretty good games.
Mexico finally got out the first round.
That was crazy.
Big three season begins Friday in Houston.
Look at me right there.
And ice.
And mall.
That's kind of mall.
That's not mall.
That is mall.
That's kind of mall.
Oh, there's ice again.
You want to talk basketball?
Draft coming up.
Something to talk about.
The draft is when?
Tomorrow.
Thursday.
Today's Wednesday.
Oh, yeah, tomorrow.
Kevin Knox to the Knicks.
I'll be real happy.
I don't want to see Trae Young.
I don't know if he's going to fall that far.
Kevin Knox?
No.
I think he'll be good.
It's some of these mock drafts, and I don't believe any of the mock drafts ever.
Never believe the mock drafts.
Ever, ever, ever.
In any sport.
But some of these drafts have Michael
Porter Jr. dropping to like
7-8. Because of the injury.
I doubt it though.
I don't think he'll drop either. Not to 7-8.
And some of them got
Bagley going to second and third.
I hate his game.
You don't like his game? I think he's
Marvin Williams part two
in the league. That's a fair assessment.
I don't see it.
Marvin Williams still in the league, though.
Yeah, but I was in North Carolina when they was trying to make Marvin Williams.
Well, no, in North Carolina, he was the real deal.
He drafted like 11?
He was a high draft pick.
What about Gilchrist?
I hated his game in college.
Still hate it. He was tough in college. Nah, I wasn't so.? I hated his game in college. Still hate it.
He was tough in college. Nah, I wasn't so.
Nah, he was tough in college.
If Kevin Knauss goes to the Knicks, I'll be happy. I'm seeing some
mock drafts say Trey Young to the Knicks.
I don't like it.
I don't know that.
You don't know that y'all need a point guard?
Well, we do need a point guard.
What I'm saying is, we've needed a point guard for a few years. So that y'all need a point guard? Well, we do need a point guard. Oh. What I'm saying is we've needed a point guard for a few years.
So y'all have Frank Nikolai Volkov, who we don't know what he is.
They brung Trey Burke up, who did pretty well, but we don't know what he is.
And Emmanuel Moutier, who looked decent, high traffic, but we don't know what he is.
So you're compounding mistakes.
So, yeah, we need a point guard.
So we need a lot.
So now let's draft a point guard again and now have four guards on the roster.
That's what I'm saying.
So, yeah, we need a point guard.
If Colin Saxon is available, I'm rolling.
Let's go.
What do you think of Mikael Bridges?
I like him.
What do you think of his brother?
Which one's better?
Mikael, right?
Yeah.
No question.
Tell me what you think is happening with Kyrie, Kawhi, and LeBron.
And a lot of fans on tour killed Maul for always being wrong in his sports text.
I just want to point that out.
But what do you think is happening?
They end up where?
LeBron ends up where with who?
I hate to say it, but I think he's going to go all the way clown cake on us
and put a Lakers jersey on.
I think he's going to stay in Cleveland.
Nah.
I think he's going to stay in Cleveland.
He's going to convince somebody, one of these kids,
either Chris Paul or Paul George or Kawhi via trade.
I think they know that he's going to get killed if he leaves Cleveland.
He ain't worried about that.
I don't know where he's going to go and what he's going to do,
but let me tell you why I'm excited.
I'm excited over the one line he said after the finals where he's going to go and what he's going to do. But let me tell you why I'm excited. I'm excited over his, the one line he said after the finals
where he was like, it's going to take a bunch of high IQ basketball minds
to beat the Warriors.
It's true.
When I was watching the finals and he looked disengaged and disconnected,
it looked like a nigga who just knew
he didn't have what it took on the team to get it done right so with that said we're about I think
we're about to enter a really interesting state in the NBA where now you'll have to measure the
finals is going to be about measuring some things that we've never even really paid attention to. Like that J.R. Smith blunder in game one,
costly mistake.
I think he's going to try to put himself around some men
who are, like D-Wade, real high b-ball IQ.
Kyrie, for as much as he dribbles,
real high basketball IQ.
Chris Paul, he's friends with people that have high basketball IQ.
So wherever he goes, Maul, I think he's going to put together minds.
And I'm excited about that.
If he was serious about winning outside of Cleveland,
I think he should go to Boston or San Antonio and build,
assuming that those teams stay intact.
Let me explain something. For one, I think LeBron to Boston or San Antonio and build, assuming that those teams stay intact. Let me explain something.
For one, I think LeBron is definitely leaving Cleveland, but I do not think he should go to the Western Conference.
If he does, he may never get to the finals again.
Now, let me just counter that.
If I'm LeBron and I've been to the finals eight times in the East, I hear what people are saying about me not wanting to smoke in the West.
Me dodging. I hear a little things.
If I'm putting together my squad,
if I'm LeBron,
I think going to the West
is a statement.
If he puts his squad
together and goes to the West to basically
say,
we here now, me, PG, Kawhi, Kuzma,
and you could bring the ball up for that squad.
If he has that team,
I don't think he has any intrepidation about going to the West.
I think he'll go to the West and would love to play the Warriors four times a year with his niggas.
I think he'd love nothing more than to squash all of that legacy, he'll go to the West and would love to play the Warriors four times a year with his niggas.
I think he'd love nothing more than to
squash all of that
legacy, Draymond.
That team wouldn't,
that team wouldn't,
that group he named
just now wouldn't be
able to shoot the ball
well enough.
I think if you put
Kawhi and LeBron
next to each other
with a decent point guard,
especially a point guard
that can play defense.
But you still need to
be able to shoot the ball.
Yes and no. There's no yes
or no. Now you need a shooter.
You need shooters. You definitely need shooters.
If you're going to be playing against Houston, if you're going to be playing
against Golden State, I'm naming a five.
I know what you're saying, but I'm saying
that won't be enough. Kawhi and
LeBron can shoot well enough that if they had other shooters
around them that were like Kyle
Corvus of the world, they would be formidable.
This is the thing that everybody is forgetting about this Golden State team
and why it's working so well.
There's no ego there.
Like, Steph Curry doesn't care that he's not finals MVP.
He doesn't care that Kevin Durant got it back-to-back.
Kevin Durant doesn't care if he's not the leading scorer in the game.
Klay Thompson doesn't care if he's not the leading scorer in the game. Klay Thompson doesn't care
if he's not the lead.
We've seen Paul George
operate egoless, right?
Yeah.
Maybe not so much from LeBron.
Yeah, we didn't like LeBron
when he was trying
to not have an ego
when he first got to Miami
and D-Wade said,
no, nigga.
Yeah, D-Wade had to say you have to have an ego ego you have to be the best player on his team this is your team like
yeah D Wade had to say it like this is your team all right so tell me who you would rather see
LeBron Paul George Kyrie or LeBron Chris Paul and uh Kawhi yeah I fucked it up. I said Kyrie.
Kawhi, PG, LeBron, or CP, LeBron, and either of the two?
CP in that mix.
Yeah, I don't want to see three forwards.
I need to see LeBron with a true point guard.
Aries is leaving Houston?
I'm hearing Golden State is going after him hard, like they want him.
I'm hearing.
No, for real.
That's what they said. Nigga, he said it. He said, I want him. I'm hearing. No, for real. That's what they said.
He said it.
He said,
I want to go to Golden State.
I'll take a pay cut to go to Golden State.
No, no, no.
I'm just saying,
I think they're moving
past Iguodala.
They want to go
a little younger.
I would like to see
LeBron with a good coach.
Wait, is...
Moving past Iguodala
yeah they want to get
a little younger
he was hurt a lot
that's my guy though
yeah
his basketball IQ
I don't see
I don't see the Warriors
moving on from
Iguodala just yet
I know we not a basketball
podcast but I don't see
that one
I'll be sad about that
I can see it
I don't see it
you don't think that's
a cheat code
I know that's your friend
Areva
but you don't judge niggas for wanting to go to Golden State?
I don't know if he wants to.
He's a free agent.
I don't know if he wants to go.
He would go.
I don't know if that's his cheat code.
I'm done with more.
No, no, no.
He said he'll take a pay cut to go.
Who wouldn't?
At this point, it's all about Trev has a ring already.
So now it's either, what do you want? Money on the it's just you know it's either what do you want
money on the way out
or you want another ring
on the way out
money
you know what I'm saying
like he has a ring
I don't think the money
is going to be that far off
he had a great season
that's true
he shot it really well
so he could probably get
he could probably steal
from somewhere
for sure
if he wanted to go to
like a complete nobody team
he could probably get a lot of money
yeah
but to be on any type of decent team but if you wanted to go to a complete nobody team, you could probably get a lot of money. Yeah, yeah.
But to be on any type of decent team.
But if you wanted to be in the mix and in the hunt, Golden State for sure.
Another four.
And it's his style.
It's shoot threes, play defense.
That's all you would have to do.
That's the style of the league now.
Right.
But for that team, that system is like, just shoot it.
If you can shoot it, shoot it, man.
I have one more
basketball question for you that I just
forgot that fast.
Fuck it. What about Kyrie to the
Knicks?
Listen, you playing, but I do
this is the first time in a long time that
I can see the Knicks playing. I can see it.
I have
never known what they were ever doing.
Ever.
This is the very first time when they announced,
yo, KP might not play all next season.
I said, yes, all right, finally.
Because his surgery is done.
He's working out.
And the timeline is not the whole next season.
The timeline was January.
They said January, February, he'll be back.
But why bring him back if he missed that?
We're not going to be competitive.
Tank the whole fucking season.
So when they said that, I was like, yes, okay.
And then I looked at who's supposed to come out.
That's the class of, who got all the dope niggas this year?
Duke, right?
Yeah.
Duke got like five of the top ten players.
The Knicks are shooting for one of them Duke niggas.
And I think it's that Zion kid I still have to see him at the next level at the college of course he was
playing amongst boys his whole high school it look they look like it yeah so I got a keeper keep on
him I'm not I don't know if I'm sold yet cuz he ain't gonna be able to do all that shit at the
next level he wouldn't need to with Kyrie, Tim Hardaway Jr., Porzingis,
and whoever else ends up on that team.
It looks like they're trying to get up from under the Noah contract.
For once, I could see what the Knicks are doing.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm not excited.
I'm not hopeful.
Don't get it fucked up.
All real Knicks fans know we hate them.
But I can see what they're doing.
So I won't be watching
basketball next season
because my team is trash.
But 2019 draft,
I'll be there.
I won't be watching
if LeBron goes to the Lakers.
Yes, you will.
I don't want to see him
go to the Lakers.
Yes, you will.
That's why I don't want him there.
But you'll watch it.
No, I don't want to see that.
I don't care.
You'll watch it.
I don't want to see him in L.A.
But you will watch it. No, I don't want to see that. I don't care. I don't want to see him in L.A. But you will watch it.
No, I don't want to see that.
That's nasty.
LeBron running around the Staples Center with a Lakers jersey.
You know what's funny?
You a Laker fan.
You don't want LeBron on your team.
Ice is a Philly fan.
He don't want LeBron on his team.
Like, I don't get you, niggas.
Why would I want LeBron?
Bagley even stand trash.
Everything about Bagley looks trash.
That DeAndre Ayton nigga is the real deal.
And I believe he's the real deal, too.
No, he's definitely the real deal.
I do believe that Luka Dunkic is the real deal.
A dream prospect.
Oh, this talks about the Knicks trading with the Grizzlies to move up to four.
But they got to take on
what's homeboy's contract? Chandler Parsons.
The Knicks better not take that.
How big is that contract?
He might be getting...
I think he might be close to 100.
You got sleepers?
I think he might have stole like that.
That's the end of that conversation.
He's definitely 80. Definitely.
He got paid. I remember that.
He stole. Someone paid him. But he was real good that year. He wasn of that competition. He's definitely 80. Definitely. Yeah, he got paid. I remember that. He stole.
Someone paid him.
But he was real good that year.
The Mavericks. He wasn't that good.
He was kind of good.
I've never seen him.
The Rockets didn't want to lose him.
I've never seen him hit two shots in a row.
Yes, you have.
Chandler Parsons?
I've never seen him hit two shots in a row.
Chandler Parsons.
I can't recall any time he's come down and hit two.
Got in his boogie bag and hit two shots.
Never.
No, Chandler Parsons was like.
When you get 80 plus, you supposed to be able to come down twice and get a bucket.
I've seen him get two buckets.
I've never seen him.
Sorry.
He's like a junior Klay Thompson.
Fuck no.
That year.
That year.
For Houston.
Yo, niggas put too much sauce on Klay Thompson.
No, they don't.
Yes, they do.
No, they don't.
I've never seen Klay Thompson dribble the ball more than three times.
He don't have to dribble.
You got a ratty like that, nigga?
I know.
On that particular team.
On that team.
You take him off that team, he's going to have to dribble the fucking ball.
No, but he can put the ball on the floor.
Don't think he can.
No, please.
He doesn't have to.
Oh, please.
I'm not rolling.
Okay.
I'm not rolling.
Who ends up with a better career?
Not a better career.
Whose game ends up better at the end of their career?
Klay Thompson or Devin Booker?
Well, Klay has three rings.
Yeah.
That's why I said whose game ends up better.
Oh, game.
Just a straight game.
Yeah, K Clay's got more
Oh no Devin got
He got more
He's gonna catch him
Yeah
Okay
Alright so we in agreeance
Alright
Do we have sleepers?
Yeah we always got sleepers
I got a sleeper
Yo
We didn't even get into this album
I don't know why we didn't get into this album
But that Jacquees album is hard
It's really good.
So I'm going to play a song from that album.
I have been playing this song since the album was released.
And this one is called London off that new Jacquees album.
If you don't have it, go get it.
Also, that new Fetty Wap album is in stores too right this second,
so go check it out.
It is. All right here we go this one is called London brand new up that Jacquees album. It's two o'clock, I'm tryna find your spot Fresh fit from Lenox and I'm in my drop
I hit your digits cause you got that vibe I hit your digits cause you got that vibe
I hit your digits cause you on my mind, oh yeah
Good chance, girl, we could take that What you want tonight?
Let's pour these shots till we get wasted I know you're in my area, you're flexing
on your Snapchat Babe, why don't you put up and let a real
nigga hear that?
Girl, you're my machine
Body on the counter, legs in the wind
If I get in the shower, you gon' get in
We came to vape for hours, come out, I'm here
We ain't gotta call it love
No, no
Cause I don't want you to give something I can't give
We ain't gotta call it love
But girl, you know exactly how we feel
I ain't tryna do it to you
Cause I know how other niggas make you feel
Girl, I'm gon' be the one to keep it real
Girl, I'm gon' be the one to pay your bills
Can you get used to that?
Girl, you can trust me
Cause I'm down to give you everything you need
Can you get used to that?
Take you on shot, and shot again
Cause you gotta do just more than cook and clean
Yeah, yeah
Leave me
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Leave me Leave me Leave me Leave me Leave me Leave me Leave me Leave me Leave me Leave me Leave me Leave me Leave me Just keep me physical, emotions out the way
Cause I ain't tryna play you like a lame
You say you outside, I'm on the way
We pouring Hennessy shots, it's getting late
You say you gotta be up for work at 8
You can spend the night, Miss Lady, yeah, why don't you stay?
Good chance, girl, we could take it
You know what's up tonight, puttin' on these shots and now we waste it
Know that I won't let you drive, I care about your safety
So why don't you just stay with me, we both know we're fake
Girl, you're my machine
Body on the counter, legs in the wind We both know it fast Girl, you're my machine
Body on the counter, legs in the wind If I get in the shower, you gon' get in
We came to play for hours We ain't gotta call it love
Cause I'd be damned if I got something I couldn't give
We ain't gotta call it love But when we fucking, I be catching chills
I ain't tryna do it too hard
Cause I know how the niggas make you feel
Girl, I'm gon' be the one to keep it real
And be the one to pay your bills
Girl, can you get used to that?
Cause I'm down to give you everything you need
Can you get used to that?
And shut the door
What you gotta do just more than cook and clean
I need you
Just keep me physical, emotions out the way
Cause I ain't tryna play it like a lame
You can't trust me
Cause I'm down to give you everything you need
Can you get used to that?
Take you one shot, then show you what you got to do
Just more than cook and clean
Cause you're more than that
It's like a little stress
Just keep it physical, emotions out the way
Cause I ain't tryna play you like a lame That's right, ladies and gentlemen.
That was brand new for my man, Jaquese.
That one is called London.
Remember where you heard it first?
Right here.
WJB.
That's all I got.
WJB 07.
Why 07?
07 is trash.
Yeah,
no,
I don't like 07.
I got to work on it.
Yeah.
But that was Jaquese,
London off.
Jaquese's new album
out right now
in your phone.
Music business is so trash.
It's out right now.
Or in your phone.
In your pocket right now.
Go check it out.
Pull your phone out.
It's in your pocket.
You just haven't found it yet.
That's kind of wild.
There's a lot of things in your pocket you've never found.
There's mad shit in your pocket.
That was kind of profound, Mo.
Morning, Sam. Oh, I thought he kind of profound, Mo. Morning, Sam.
Oh, I thought he did.
No, morning.
Yo, this is,
I literally,
I was like,
I know,
I know,
I know.
Look how fast
I cause doubt.
Look how fast
I cause doubt
in the room.
Niggas just heard me say
that everybody's
sitting here quiet.
They phony.
You got something?
I can go.
You know,
Maul goes last with Jag.
I ain't playing rap,
though,
so if you got R&B,
play it.
All right.
A listener at the meet and greet
actually put me onto this EP,
and I actually listened.
Oh, Trey Button.
And I really liked it.
So this is Amber Oliveira.
I liked it so much, I didn't bother to check her name.
This is When It's Over. I know that means the most to me One time you were my friend
Feels like the further we grow
The more I feel like this ain't how it's supposed to be
I'm at my wits end
I ain't doing low, it's nothing with stones and me
I didn't string you low, don't put it all on me
I never prayed for love, stuck in my way so much
I didn't train you up, I held my way enough
It's never over till it's over, over till it's over
It's never over till it's over, over till it's over It's never over till it's over Over till it's over
Even then it's never really over when it's over
Over when it's over
Never really over when it's over
Over when it's over
When it's over
How can you make me feel
Oh wait, I know there's nothing left to say
Cause it was all in vain
I just miss us
But there is no us no more
You say it's me, I say it's your fault
But since you're not the same no more
Tell me what you came here for
I ain't doing it alone
It's nothing with stones and me
I didn't stream you alone, stuck through the stones of me I didn't stream you alone, don't put it all on me
I never prayed for love, stuck in my ways too much
I didn't train you up, I held my way enough
It's never over till it's over, over till it's over
It's never over till it's over, over till it's over Over till it's over It's never over till it's over Over till it's over
Even then it's never really over when it's over
Over when it's over
Never really over when it's over
Over when it's over
When it's over
We don't mind Off this thing of ours project is called silly boy All right difficulties on wjb 11 11 is trashed it oh
Might money be three numbers wjb wjb 80
Now four letters numbers
80?
No, four letters,
none numbers.
P.
WT.
P for podcast. Rory ain't even telling niggas the name of our new group.
Street's not ready
for that, though.
Should we show them the repertoire?
Damn, Ramal.
He's trying to announce
our new group.
And he played his hard ass beat
Yo
Yeah
Ayo
Don't get dissed again I blew the pack to eat that, uh, fuck going on in they head In the booth seeing Brad, uh, on the air ducking fast
Shout my niggas breaking bread, I hit the block for the split
Niggas tryna go legit, crack the hand, kill the fifth
Collect the first and the fifth, dudes change like I'm Tet
Uh, who sang when I spit, uh, loops made around your bitch
Uh, I don't trust not an air hoe, she follow orders cause I said so
Woo, bitches Rick Flare though, don't push me cause I'm on the edge bro I could be writing for your favorite rapper and
none of you niggas would ever know niggas might want to get you a verse
when it's cheap and they'll tell them when prices grow I'm trying to freeze up
the whole team till every wrist every chest gleam niggas want to test my
testes these bitches want to check them sexually had to check the niggas next me
cuz niggas know I got the recipe if I don't know you then don't lecture me
fuck a real niggas heavily to me Cause niggas know I got the recipe If I don't know you, then don't lecture me Fuck with real niggas heavily
Fuck with the blood and the crips, ayy Cracking the eight out the vip, ayy
She want the palace to tip, ayy Pulling the Glock out the kit
Don't toy with the squad, see All my niggas on they job, boy
Niggas studied all his art, son Tryna get these pockets large
Got the bass pumping heavy And I got blocks to the bird
If you need me hit the celly
Val Benitez just don't say a word on the phone hearing clicks
on the phone hearing clicks keep it quiet bout them moves
know the boys watch the shit No matter how big a guy might be, Nicky would take him on.
You beat Nicky with fists, he comes back with a bat.
You beat him with a knife, he comes back with a gun.
And if you beat him with a gun, you better kill him.
That's Adonis and V-Don, Silly Boy.
I'm not going to work on your enthusiastic voice.
I mean, that shit was hard.
You can't just come back mad enthusiastic.
Got to keep the energy of the record.
He needs a harder voice than him.
Yeah, that was V-Don and Adonis.
Some shit in my phone.
That you haven't found yet.
Yeah.
Some shit in my phone. I liked it. that you haven't found yet. Yeah.
I liked it.
I'm seeing that Blac Chyna just broke up
with whoever that young kid
is she was with.
Whatever.
That sucks.
Is she going to get custody of him?
It's a good joke, bro.
Thanks, man.
Yeah, that was a pretty good one.
I don't know.
Roy's been on...
You had a few good jokes
on tour, man. Both of you. Yeah, tour went pretty pretty good one. I don't know. Roy's been on a few good jokes on tour, man.
Both of you.
Yeah, tour went pretty well.
Tour was great.
Yeah, so my apologies if I've been a little down.
It's tough to do five podcasts in a week.
Dope.
Six podcasts in a week.
I am exhausted.
Yeah, I'm not.
Listen, I'm going on vacation.
I can't believe we just did this long of a podcast.
Actually, if you're listening to this right now, I'm on vacation.
I'm out.
I'm already at my connecting flight.
Listen, send both the tickets, man.
I was about to say it.
I would never connect, but I mean, my queen.
You blame it on your queen?
No, I'm saying, well, yeah, one.
And two, when you're with your queen, it doesn't matter where you connect.
Everything is love.
Everything's connected.
Everything is love and connected.
In your pocket.
Everything is love and connected in your pockets.
I'm starving.
Yeah, I'm getting the fuck out of here.
Can we cancel this shit next week?
Listen, we could just put out the live shit.
Put out the live shit.
Yeah, I might need to not see y'all for a little bit.
That was a beautiful, beautiful, you know what I'm saying?
I'm going to fuck out of here.
Nothing was beautiful.
Beautiful, beautiful.
I'm going to fuck out of here.
Yeah, I'm leaving.
Shout out to the story that will break after we leave.
I'm going to go home.
I end up in fucking Astoria
After the tour
I end up in Astoria
I gotta get out of this place
Carmelo's on a thunder next year
That was my other basketball question
Like what happens to Melo
Retire
No
He's not retiring
He's gonna be right there
Nobody's taking him
He makes like 30 million a year
So I'm stupid right
Nobody's taking him
I'm not paying Melo 30 million
No more
Them days are long gone.
Jalen and fucking this niggas.
See, if Roy was on top of his shit, man.
I could be with Jalen right now.
With that hoodie on?
Shout out to the story that'll break tomorrow while I'm on vacation.
Don't call me.
Don't text me.
I got my feet in the sand.
Doing me.
I don't catch feelings. I catch flights. All right, fine. I got my feet in the sand. Doing me. I don't catch feelings.
I catch flights.
All right, fine.
I'm out of here.