The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 173 | "This Is Joe Budden, From the Joe Budden Podcast"
Episode Date: August 8, 2018Recently, the term culture vulture has been used heavily. Joe, Rory, and Mal debate if Lyor Cohen’s latest interview determines if he is a “culture vulture” (14:22). The guys also share their th...oughts on all of the new music that was released starting with Travis Scott’s “Astroworld” (40:32). Most would agree Fabolous is well dressed but Joe gives him a call to discuss an outfit that Mal deemed questionable (1:08:57). And Joe also calls Dame Dash to hear his definition of a “culture vulture” and things heat up quick (1:34:00). Sleeper Picks of the Week Joe: Ella Mai - “Trip” | https://youtu.be/JfGD75vHWrU Rory: Heather Victoria - “Japan” | https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/japan-feat-the-gavin-quintet-single/1420166346 Mal: Red Cafe - “Red Bull” | https://youtu.be/q9Pnw7HKR_k
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Here we go.
How?
How could I let you go?
I don't know, it's kind of easy to let chicks go.
I did everything in this relationship.
You got the nerve to leave.
You alright, bro?
I told you all of my secrets.
How could you leave?
This was jaded before jaded.
Secrets doesn't mean I have to stay.
How could you walk away?
It's a bad example.
Oh, yes.
I can see Rory doing a cover in the video to match of this when Sam leaves.
I'm with the shits.
Sam is definitely leaving this year.
Erickson, you got me?
Oh, yes.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Shout out to everybody listening at work.
We are here.
Yes.
Take a look, bitch.
Oh, such a void where my heart was.
I feel pretty emo today.
It's Phil.
It's Phil.
Wait, everybody in this room recognizes Phil as Phil, right?
Of course.
The legend.
All right.
I'm just making sure.
And anyway, no, I was doing a segue into Travis' shit, actually.
Yeah.
Come on, ball.
Astro.
Yeah, yeah.
Come on. Yeah, nigga. Roy, what's good, my. Astro. Yeah, yeah. Come on.
Yeah, nigga.
Roy, what's good, my G?
Hey.
She's in love with who I am.
Travis cut the check or something?
Back in high school, I used to bus into the dance.
Under 1995 to start a podcast.
That's true.
Yo, this is why I don't like this flow, because you can say the wackest shit ever, and it's
super, super hard.
Hold up, man.
What the fuck did you just say?
That flow is Teflon
But what did he just say?
Doesn't matter
Setting that cadence
I went to the prom
And then asked her for a dance
I was out like a light
I took her on a flight
We went to the mall
Had her have a bite
She come out of retirement
On the floor
You're a little rusty, bro
You sound nice She's come out of retirement. On the floor. You're a little rusty, bro. All right.
You're a little rusty, bro.
No Joe Button.
No, Wally and Ma.
Salutations, everyone.
Welcome to episode 173.
Say, Vaughn, yes?
173 of the Joe Budden Podcast.
I am your host, Joe Budden,
here alongside some of my nearest and dearest friends,
Maul, Parks, Rory, Erickson, and Savon.
I would ask everyone how they're doing,
but let me just let the listeners know.
Everyone looks a little sad.
I blame Trey.
You blame my kid? Yeah, that's why it was dark. Yeah, yeah. Dark way to start the day. Looks a little sad. I blame Trey.
Blame my kid?
Yeah, that's why it was dark.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a dark way to start the day.
Yeah, you shouldn't listen to that shit in the morning.
He's a button.
Is everyone... I got a lot of new music plugs to start this podcast.
Just giving Travis the free promo,
giving Trey the free promo.
This is kind of nuts.
Should I call Sony?
Should we charge them to play the Travis song?
Might have to.
And I was starting with Phil.
I don't ever want to plug
my kid or Travis.
Why is everyone sad?
You guys all right?
Rory, you okay?
It's the heat wave, man.
I thought we were
on our way to the fall.
And then it just reminded me
it's still August.
Summer's still here, bro.
Oh, I'm so glad
that the fall is coming.
I'm really excited about...
The fall...
Did I ask y'all
to rank y'all seasons for me?
You guys are spring,
summer people?
No, no, no.
I'm a fall.
Fall, spring.
I'm an October baby,
so the fall is it for me.
Fall is number one.
Spring is number two.
I might even put winter three.
Yeah, you're a summer spring.
Summer, spring, fall. I'm a fall, summer, spring, winter.
That's shocking because you seem like you would like
to layer up.
No, I do, but
I mean, New York summers are trash.
This summer, this weather is terrible.
No, it's true now.
This weather is terrible.
Yeah, if we're speaking to weather, New York is awful.
This shit is terrible.
But wait, it used to be New York summers were the greatest thing in the world.
No, they still-
No.
No, they are.
No.
They were and they still are, but I'm talking just weather.
I'm not talking about what's happening outside.
I'm talking about totality.
The weather is trash.
It's not what it used to be, man.
The rooftop parties are trash.
That's true.
The day parties are trash.
Y'all don't be out, though.
Y'all don't be in these streets. It's trash. It's trash. It is trash. How would y true the day party i don't be out though y'all be in these
streets it's trash it is trash how would y'all know you don't know because it's trash yo rory
every time we talk i say yo tell me somewhere dope to go and i'll go no answer i'll go like
no i'm not i'm not just home being a hermit why i am home being a hermit but if there was somewhere
dope to go i really really, really, truly would go.
No, but I also have to think certain things other people find dope you don't.
Like, you need a place away from everyone to sit and stare at your phone and be away from the party.
And some parties don't offer that. I was out like a light.
Took her to the flight.
Went to the mall.
Made her have a bite.
Made her have a bite.
You don't think I got it still?
Off the dome? Nah, that shit trash. Even off the dome? Off the dome. Made her have a bite. You don't think I got it still? Off the dome?
No, that shit trash.
Even off the dome?
Off the dome.
Did she have consent?
Yo, what happened?
You used to couldn't tell a nigga he was trash if he was off the dome.
No, you couldn't tell a nigga he was trash.
No, you can.
Absolutely.
Nah, you could think it.
You couldn't say it.
Nah, you could say it.
I'd say it.
Yeah, that was trash.
That's not it.
Damn, but bitches be having bites at the mall.
Yeah, but you made her have a bite.
You made her have a bite?
I made her have a bite.
You made her eat?
That's a little rapey.
Sometimes you don't be hungry.
Sometimes.
No, women are always hungry.
That's true.
Yeah, but their hunger is like their piss.
It's there, but they feel like they can hold it another 10.
Nah, they just be talking about.
What you talking about?
Yeah, they get that crankiness, that hunger crankiness.
Now, let's get into Rory for a little bit.
Pause.
Rory, I had the pleasure of listening to Rory on the Horrible Decisions podcast, Mandy and Weezy.
Let me give Mandy and Weezy a round of applause.
I've never actually had the pleasure of meeting this Weezy young lady, but Mandy, we know.
Yeah, Weezy's great.
No, relax.
You're applauding them.
Relax.
Yeah, I want to get the good stuff out the way.
Don't jump in with good stuff.
You jump in when it's bad.
Now, Mo, you were on this podcast too, right?
Yeah.
I got to hear your episode.
I don't think I listened to Mo's episode.
Why y'all niggas?
I just have a few questions
Did you hear
Did anybody hear Rory
I didn't
I didn't listen to it
Some people had told me
To listen to it though
I didn't listen to it yet
I heard Rory was being
Irish McNasty
Nigga what
You know what the crazy shit is
No all of it
Y'all need to listen to it
No all of it was crazy
I don't think
Dog I was very PC
The type of conversations
We've had off the microphone were not even
remotely close. I'm cool with the ass eating. That's fine.
You can eat my ass. I've adjusted
a bit. I wouldn't say my leg was
on anyone's shoulder per se.
Okay. Tell me
what's wrong with that clip. I didn't say anything. I just played a
clip, Rory. No, I see your face and I know you.
I see your face.
What does that mean?
You and Parks, which is also super creepy, took the time to clip that and play it back.
I see your face.
Parks is our engineer.
I'm just picturing the two of you standing at a computer screen like, no, no, no, one more second before that about the ass part.
That's creepy.
And you were definitely Indian style when you did it, which made it weirder.
For sure.
See, I like this Rory.
I like the Rory that combats the joke with jokes.
I don't like when Rory gets all serious.
So stay in this vibe.
Listen.
Stay in this vibe.
Telling a nigga to stay in a vibe is fucking crazy.
Well, no, I like this vibe.
This is a great vibe.
Stay in this vibe, Rory.
I have a question for both of y'all, though.
So you stay in this vibe, too.
Why y'all be so, huh?
I'm in the vibe.
Why y'all be so eager to wake up on a Saturday morning
and go talk about getting your asses licked? Like, Saturday is not y'all be so eager to wake up on a Saturday morning and go talk about getting your asses licked?
Like, Saturday is not your wind down, relax time.
That's Sunday.
That's Sunday.
No, but I didn't.
Well, if it happened on Friday night, I got to tell somebody.
Yeah, I don't know if my episode I talked about getting my ass licked.
No, you did.
You did.
I don't know.
Probably did.
Probably did.
I mean, I don't think it was that wild.
When I saw people in my mentions, I was like, oh, that's wild, D.O.?
Yeah.
Okay.
No, it's not wild, but I'm your friend, so I'm going to crack on you.
But I did learn a few things.
You know how sometimes you just learn maybe too much about your friends, right?
So let me tell you what I learned about you, Rory, when I'm listening to this podcast.
Okay.
One, I didn't know that you didn't know what a depo shot was.
And that may seem pretty minor, but I was judging you about it.
And two, and maybe this leaves room for me to be judged, but I don't really care.
Sin was trying to bait me into a judge contest.
Oh, yeah.
I almost got myself in trouble.
Anyway, yeah, I'm listening and Rory starts talking about how he's never had hot candle wax on him.
Hmm.
So then I.
I missed that part.
So I was listening.
I don't even know if I remember that part.
And I said, wait, have you guys ever had hot candle wax on you at all?
For sure.
On my hand, just to see how it.
But I don't know.
You wanted those.
Naked.
You wanted.
He was adding Yankee Candle.
Pour it on my palm.
No, I just wanted to see if it burned.
Like, I wasn't trying to.
And I don't know, sensual.
I wasn't naked and letting her just Pour that shit on my back
But you do know
The way that it feels
Outside of the moment
And how it feels
Inside of the moment
Is not the same
Yeah I get that
You don't care
You're not gonna give it a go
It's not great
Inside the moment
I'm cool on the candle wax
For what it's worth
I'm cool on the candle wax
It's not great
I don't really want you
Pouring shit on me
When I'm having sex
As yes it's not
On the top of my docket
Yeah I'm not there
So what y'all do
When y'all get into
Like your romance bag Is that the romance bag I'm what y'all do when y'all get into like your romance bag?
Is that the romance bag?
I'm asking y'all.
I mean, candles lit, good R&B music, good vibe, good lighting.
And that's about it.
That's the romance bag?
Yeah.
That's it?
I didn't know pouring shit on me was romantic.
Yeah, you never seen Ghost Snickers?
They was making clay shit.
Yeah, but that was before the sex.
That led into the sex.
Well, anyway, I looked at the phone in pure amazement.
I said, here you come.
I want to act like Mr. Extra Experience, nigga.
Who you think he was pouring wax on?
I didn't know.
And this was years ago.
Yeah, listening to that with your girl was probably not a good idea.
I didn't know y'all was taking it there.
And I didn't know she was listening.
And I was going to combat you saying, who wants to go on their Saturday to eat ass?
And I was like, that wasn't like a text convo prior.
It just happened.
But then again, it was the horrible decisions podcast.
So I figured that was probably on the dog.
So Saturday's the only day to eat ass?
Well, I guess to talk about it.
Oh, to talk.
Okay, got you.
Yeah, but a lot of niggas was hitting my mentions on Saturday just talking about
how at home Rory sounded
and felt at that podcast.
At home?
They tell you what the...
He was so forthcoming
with information.
I like the engine room.
You were forthcoming
with information?
That nigga was...
He went there
ready to divulge things.
Well, I'll be honest with you.
I do like that this is
like the boys club and shit
and that's fun
and I like y'all.
Y'all don't just like to want to be around just women sometimes and just talk to girls?
Of course.
Yeah, you talk to girls.
I felt much more at home than just yelling with y'all all fucking.
Oh, please.
Yo, yo, yo.
No, that is such a lie.
Rory sat there and lied.
Yo, he went in there.
You know how niggas just go into their bag of lies when they're in a room full of girls?
Rory lied about everything.
Rory lied about everything.
Rory lied about every single thing
up there
give me your top three lies
your number one lie up there
you told those two women
with a straight face
now wait now
cause we'll edit some shit out
if we get in trouble
no wait now
wait now
you told them to
and I know Rory guilty
cause he keeps
sipping from that bottle
that's guilty
that bottle
throw that shit away man
he keeps sipping
from that empty water bottle
man look he keeps throw that shit away, man. He keeps sitting away. Let me see. Throw that shit away, man.
Look.
Throw that shit away, man.
Yo, Rory told those two women with the straight face when they asked him if he had a type.
He said, no, I don't have a type.
We've had that debate.
All shapes, faces, shapes, sizes, accent, hair.
I don't have a type.
You and I have had that debate, Mad Tom.
So how could you say I'm lying
you and I have argued
down about that
that's always my side
in our debate
well I'm not lying
to you or them
Rory definitely has a type
that's all
that's all
everyone's got a type
I do believe
some people might not
have a type
I don't know if it's a type
but if I look at
all the women
I've known Rory
to date in the past
and it's that
they kind of do have
a little
all the pics he like on Instagram is kind of similar.
That's how I gauge it.
Okay, I'll agree to disagree.
What's the other lie?
Oh, lie number two.
You told those two women with the straight face,
yo, when you was talking about
just things that
you're significant,
all that you have,
she should have her own friends.
She should have her own life.
My friends is my friends.
Her friends is her friends.
So if I break up with my girl,
please believe
my friends is mine.
Her friends is hers.
And I was laying in bed
and I looked at the center
and said,
that's a lie.
Sam is definitely off.
I'm definitely rolling with Sam
in the break. I've told Roy that a million times. So that's a lie. Sam is definitely out. I'm definitely rolling with Sam in the break.
I've told Roy that a million times.
So that's another lie.
Okay.
By your flip of words.
Yeah, it was two more lies up there, man.
I got to get into it.
I got to listen to this shit now.
Yeah, you do.
It's must listen to.
I got to listen to it.
No, I was suggesting the context of the conversation was things you need in a relationship.
And I was suggesting that you should have your own set of friends as well so you can leave me alone and go
be with your friends i'm on that i'm on that no no you know how rory's good let me tell you rory's
good and then we're gonna get off of this because i might get myself in trouble here um rory's good
because some niggas got the the bag the uh the i'm not pressed for pussy bag that they could get
into you just know all the opposite answers of what every man has said to them rory wouldn't The bag, the I'm not pressed for pussy bag that they could get into.
You just know all the opposite answers of what every man had said to them.
Rory went in that bag.
Okay.
The not pressed for pussy bag?
Yeah, he did.
Come on, man.
You be pressed.
You be pressed.
You be pressed.
Come on, niggas.
Stop fronting on these other podcasts, god damn it.
You be pressed.
Shout out to Mandy and Weezy.
I'm joking around, but I really enjoyed the podcast.
And I
enjoyed y'all
coming to
our shit.
And I do
think that
y'all can
sell out.
Now, where
are we at?
Where are we
starting here?
Off of Rory's
fucking shit.
Do we start
with Lior?
Do we start
with Travis,
Scott, everyone
here I'm assuming
has heard Astroworld,
yes?
Yeah.
Lior's a little
older, though.
Let's start with
Lior, and then we can just do
a new music topic
so we don't have to bounce around.
Because if we do Travis,
we're going to have to go through
all 10 albums
that came out on Friday.
Let's have some structure here
for a change.
I thought that we would be able
to duck the Lior shit.
I mean, I saw a bunch of people
just start hitting me.
No.
Why would you want to duck it?
We can't duck it.
Because I'm biased toward Lior.
We can't duck that, though. Okay. I would have thought you wanted to duck it, Yeah, we can't duck it. Because I'm biased toward Lior. We can't duck it, though.
Okay.
I would have thought
you wanted to duck it, too.
Why?
Shit.
Not me.
No?
I don't duck nothing.
Really?
Really.
Can we have this talk?
I can talk about anything.
About Lior?
Yeah.
You can't
because you're, you know,
you got political
connects now
and you've sold out.
So you're a little different now.
I'm just saying.
That just established me.
Old Joe Budden would have went in.
I don't know about this guy.
Joe always liked Lior though.
Yeah, I've always been a Lior guy.
Yeah, but you always used to fall on the independent side.
I'm still on the independent side.
Yeah, but it's different now because you're behind the scenes.
Listen, all right.
And you got friends and shit.
That used to not be your friend the industry man yo y'all gonna start that narrative
up for real yeah you know it's a narrative it's just i don't think i'm industry i don't what you
think i think i think i think thank you more i think that i'm respectful to we all people we i'm
i'm respectful to people like I'm respectful to people.
Like, so when I,
I guess,
when you call me industry,
if I see industry niggas,
I'm going to speak to them.
Yeah, but now it's a little different.
How?
Because now it's just,
you know,
you know when you industry
is how you speak to people.
Like, now you see somebody,
you're going to start
stomping your feet,
laughing before the dab.
You know what I mean?
That's what you do, like.
Yo, let's flick it up.
Erickson.
Erickson. When a nigga stomping to the dap,
when a nigga stomping to the dap,
that means like,
all right, I see what back here.
Like, you a stomping to the dap nigga now.
You think?
For sure.
Nah, don't be stomping. If you see Puff right now,
you stomping to the dap, my nigga.
Like, don't do that.
I just kind of gracefully walk into it.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
You stomping to the dap.
Because I don't want to be like extra to see him.
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
You might even do the dap hug too.
You might do like the one and then the hug around the industry.
Oh, no, no, no.
I will admit to that.
I give him a little extra second on the hug.
Duh, you walk.
Listen.
Where y'all don't have people, y'all give the extra second on the hug too?
Our real friends.
Our real friends.
Niggas I've been.
Niggas I was on a block with.
Nah, I give it to some niggas I'm just happy to see for a little bit.
Nah, nah, nah, nah. Yo, y'all a wild. That's industry though. I get it. Nah, I give it to some niggas I'm just happy to see for a little bit. Nah, nah, nah, nah.
Yo, y'all a little wild.
That's industry though.
I get it.
You know I know.
I'm industry because
I hug Puff longer.
Yes, nigga.
Also, I saw your
Michael Rapaport shit.
You're in some little
secret Illuminati football league
with Michael Kaiser in them.
That's true.
That's industry to me.
That's true.
That's super industry.
That's true.
That's another nigga here.
That's another nigga
you stomp
dapper to is Kaiser.
And then y'all go have y'all little
private talk about what's going on in the industry.
I know you industry, nigga.
Yeah.
But y'all are naming people that brought me
in the game.
There's nothing wrong with it being industry.
Let me just say that.
This is why I disagree with y'all
saying
y'all naming people
that brought me in the game
and stopped talking to me
while my career was failing
yeah cause they didn't
fuck with you like that
they weren't my friends
we tell you
stop to be phony
hey Kaiser tells me
all the time
no nigga
we speak so much today
cause you poppin
he says that
yeah
so I don't think
I stomp when I see Kai
you stomp when you see Kai
I don't like that you did that
and you called him Kais.
Kais.
Get the fuck out of here.
Kais.
His name is Michael Kaiser.
His name is Michael Kaiser.
Erickson is having a blast.
Erickson, what's up with you?
Yo, you know why?
Because Erickson has the camera, and he sees this shit.
We don't be around.
Erickson actually be around during this shit.
You know when I knew Joe was industry?
Oh, shit.
His little puff vignette that they shot.
That's why you can't let Moe get on a roll.
He's a street.
He's creepy.
Because now that we get into your industry shit.
When he get on a roll.
When you did your little puff vignette.
I keep trying to.
Yeah, he did his little puff vignette.
He probably called it the clear port.
Of course he did.
Definitely call it the clear port.
So when Puff was getting off the jet.
And I was being mad early.
Yeah.
And you live in New Jersey. When Puff was getting off the jet. And I was being mad early. Yeah. And you live in New Jersey.
When Puff was getting off the jet,
he walked up the steps to meet Puff.
He's getting off, man.
He's coming off the plane.
He can't get out.
He can't even get off the steps.
You walked up the steps to meet Puff and dab him.
Like, come on.
You can't walk up the steps to him.
He's getting off, Joe.
Meanwhile, he was standing like the limo driver
with the piece of paper at the end of the baggage claim.
I'm here to pick you up, Sean.
Guys, you guys.
I'm just saying, bro.
I didn't know that he was getting off.
Where was he going?
You didn't know he was getting off the jet that just landed?
Were they getting gas?
What the fuck?
I thought they were picking me up.
All right.
Don't with this nigga, man.
This nigga's crazy.
Wait, why?
You my guy, though.
Yo, why is it so funny to you?
Why they can't pick me up?
Listen, you my man.
But why they couldn't pick me up and take me somewhere?
Because you know if somebody is coming to pick you up in a jet.
You know.
You're not there with a camera crew to shoot a trailer.
That's not a guess.
You know when you're getting on a flight.
Nobody has ever thought, yo, nah, they might come get you.
Like, what you mean?
Nah, there's some bitches that thought that before.
Yeah, some chicks, yeah.
But you know.
Ian just had a case.
It just wasn't confirmed yet, man.
Yeah, okay.
I didn't know
what was going on.
Okay, I got you.
That wasn't really the topic
I was bringing up.
No, no, no,
but we were just
watching Industry Connection.
And I just saw a picture
of you and Steve Stout,
I think, somewhere on Instagram.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Oh, that's nasty.
How is that nasty?
I don't count Steve Stout
on this picture with everybody.
Industry?
Yo, Mo.
All right, we got it.
Don't worry.
Don't worry.
I got it.
First of all,
I didn't even know
about the Stout picture.
I didn't know about that.
Did you call him
Kamish when you rolled up?
Clap and call him Kamish?
If you call him Kamish,
I'm fighting you.
Who's the Kamish?
I don't know.
He was the commissioner.
Remember they would yell
that on records,
on mixtapes?
Don't ever tell me that. Adam Silver was the only one you better say Kamish to. Don't tell me that again, that he was the commish? I don't know. He was the commissioner. Remember, they would yell that on records, on mixtapes. Don't ever tell me.
Adam Silver was the only one you better say commish to.
Don't tell me that again, that he was the commish.
No.
I didn't call him that.
You called him that.
Not the commish.
Hey, we got to get some order.
Any of you radio personalities think you want smoke?
Call me Mr. Chimney.
I want smoke. We're 20 minutes in. We have yet to talk about a topic. That's all right. I don't me Mr. Chimney. I want smoke.
We're 20 minutes in.
We have yet to talk about a topic.
That's all right.
I don't know why I'm listening to this shit.
Yo, shout out to everybody at work.
I don't know if I did that.
Shout out to the YouTube viewership.
Shout out to all the ladies.
Hey, y'all.
Hey.
Nice segue.
No, now let's get back to this shit.
All right, Leroy Cohen.
Before we get any further, y'all tell me the exact definition of a culture vulture.
And is Leroy Cohen one? definition of a culture vulture. And is Lior Cohen one?
Is he a culture vulture?
Yes.
Somebody that profits off a culture that they don't contribute to.
He's contributed a lot to the culture, though.
Listen, I think there's been a lot of moves that Lior has done that's shady.
But my always thing was like, all right, when you started out as run dmc's road
manager whether what your intentions were you've still participated and done a lot for this culture
he's done too much for me to call him a culture vulture that's and that's my only point we don't
have to stay here very long this is an old topic and we got a lot to delve dive into with it
i agree with parks more you say he is a culture vulture so just tell me why because
i do think that he's done too much to be a vulture he's contributed like a lot behavior i'm not saying
that is vulture-esque i'm not saying he hasn't like what like what uh i think the 360 listen
good there's good business you can still be a vulture we're doing very good business
i want to make that clear because there's a moral standpoint in there i don't relate to i don't relate vulturism with
uh oh no i'm saying i do relate i don't relate vulturism with business yeah you can't i don't
the 360 is great business because you gotta do you gotta do it for the label of course
yeah no for the artist too you say that I don't know why you say that.
Let me tell you why I say that.
Because any artist who has ambitions on a major record label,
I figure that they want to be a priority at that major label, right?
Am I off on that?
No, you're right.
They want to be a priority.
And if they want to be a priority and if they want to be a priority then that artist that gets signed has zero problem with the label taking their share
if the label is making them a priority doing all the ancillary shit that they don't have to do for
everybody that was the big beef in def jam when rihanna was on everything in the universe she was
the only one on everything in the universe they didn't give a fuck about nobody else but they wanted everybody in a 360 no we're not afforded the same rights
that rihanna is so she should be jumping up and down about her 360 because y'all giving her every
soundtrack in the world y'all giving her every makeup line y'all giving her everything in the
world right so how she felt about it and how l l about it, or somebody else, ludicrous when they approached him about it.
People felt differently about it.
I could tell you some artists right now that's in a 360 that is jumping for joy about their deal.
I think there are certain situations where a 360 makes sense for an artist.
There's a lot of situations.
And it makes sense for the label.
It's fair for the label to do that if I'm going to make you a super-duper-duper star.
It's genius when the labels were trying to combat Nap'm going to make you a super duper duper star. It's genius
when the labels
were trying to combat
Napster and LimeWire.
That was genius.
Well,
it's bad when you're not
doing any artist development
and you only know
how to market stars
and then you have a kid
that you sign
like Big Crit
and it's like,
wait,
you're taking my
little ass show money too?
You know I'm not selling shit.
Big Crit should not
have signed a 360
or to a major in general.
I think the 360
deal came in.
Yeah, Big Crit should have never been on a major.
I think it came in at a time when labels started to get exposed that we probably don't need them in a certain degree.
Because they were losing money a lot.
And that was the way shows and touring became much more lucrative.
They came in and said, all right, any kid that's broke and wants to sign to a major, a lot of kids do.
It's just taking advantage of an artist.
Of a new artist.
Of a star, nah.
He came up with that.
It was good business for the label.
Because the artists were taking advantage of
the label.
That's why, that was the thinking
behind it. The thinking was
we are spending all of the money and getting not very much back with all of this downloading shit.
Well, depending on what their split was.
We need a piece of the other stuff if we're going to continue this.
Yeah, to keep the labels going.
I'm real shocked by you, Maul.
Let's talk about it since you said we could talk about shit.
For a nigga like me, well, let me not say a nigga like me.
I'm pretty well informed but i'm sure
there's a large group of people out there that don't think that they hear from rockefeller really
without a leor that they don't hear from rockefeller yeah or murder inc or yeah or all of
them or or rough riders rough riders i disagree there, but I can see where someone would think that. Like, there's a bunch of them. That was back when no other label would house the fucking, the sub, the conglomerates.
Right.
They were the only ones to say, hey, we'll take your whole crew, your whole crew, your whole crew, your whole crew,
and now make young black men basically responsible for all these large amounts of budgets and money and all that.
I'm not saying.
He put niggas in position.
He did.
I'm not saying Leo hasn't done dope shit in music.
I'm not saying that.
But what?
But he's also.
Where's the vulture part?
Because he's also done things where it's like, okay, you ate off of this, these people, this person.
But then it's like, once you feel like you got all you can get out of them,
it's fuck them.
I don't know them.
Oh, that's the business.
That's the music business.
That's not a vulture.
That's any record label.
That's what a vulture is, though.
No, no, no, no.
Yeah.
You can't do that.
And also, I mean, what...
Him saying he didn't know Dame,
he didn't know who Dame was?
Come on.
Yeah, but if someone was talking crazy about you all the time...
It's not crazy, though.
It's all facts.
But wait, time out.
But wait, time out. But wait, time out.
Let's get into that.
You don't know Dame shit.
Now, of course he knows who Dame Dash is.
We all know that.
But him saying that was like saying,
I don't do business with him no more, so fuck him.
No, that was him saying, and he explained it further.
He said, listen, I haven't spoken to Dame in 10 years.
I don't know what he does when he wakes up in the morning.
I don't know how he makes his money.
I don't know anything about him. I don't know what he does when he wakes up in the morning. I don't know how he makes his money. I don't know anything about him.
I don't know him.
That doesn't mean you don't know somebody.
I thought that was a very polite way
to dismiss someone
who's been talking a bunch of shit about you.
I thought it was pretty polite.
But it's not shit, though.
Come on, Maul.
Yes, it is.
The culture vulture is talking shit, for sure.
That is talking shit.
Yeah, but respond to that, then.
He did. And I would love to know an answer. Because he sure. That is talking shit. Yeah, but respond to that then. He did.
And I would love to know an answer.
Because he did.
That wasn't really direct.
Wait a minute.
And that's where I would like to know
how deep y'all want to get
in this conversation.
Because he did respond
and he asked the question
that niggas just ignore.
What question did he ask?
He said,
Dame and Jay were,
y'all were telling me that they were friends and i broke up a friendship in my world that can't break up a friendship so i would say were those two people friends
he alluded to a lot and i guess maybe because i know all the rumors and shit that was swirling
around know exactly what he's talking about but people that are informed probably should know what
he's talking about we've never gotten an answer to that wait hold up no forget dame addressing him we love hove we don't hold
hove accountable for whatever part he played in that oh well no i i do i'm just speaking for
myself i do you do do i of course i do what mean? Absolutely. I'm never shied away from that.
Absolutely.
So do you think that Lior was the reason that the Rockefeller empire broke up?
He played a part.
He definitely played a part.
Wasn't that business?
That's business.
Yeah, but didn't-
He did what he should have done in business.
That's not what he should have done.
But don't you, like what Joe was saying-
He did that for his gain.
He did that for his gain.
What I wanted to in the conversation is if your bond is strong with your brothers like that, why would you let Lior come in?
Which is why I just said I hold Jay accountable for a lot that went down with that.
I never speak on it, but of course I do.
I don't run from that.
Jay absolutely had a lot to do with that
but leo played a part as well and the fact that he knew that jay was the one to get close to
because he could maneuver and persuade him in a way okay to do business that would benefit leo
in the long run and that would ultimately benefit jay as well in the long run and then it was kind of like and i can't say that anyone was wrong like i can't say in in hindsight you know i had my opinions on
it back then but in hindsight i can't say anybody was wrong in their decision making right seeing
where everybody landed right um but dame spoke a lot about leo not using his own money well okay
somebody inform me like well i don't think it had to do with help me out here the culture
vulture thing i think that had but that's when he said it be no well i think he continued another
point in saying you can't call somebody a boss that has a boss like he youtube that's not his
money that's not his company he still has to answer to somebody i think that's not his money. That's not his company. He still has to answer to somebody. I think that's what Dane was getting at, that he doesn't respect someone that is the quote head of the music industry and is not technically really a boss or put up any of his own money to do.
It's a mistake. No, I mean, I don't think there's anything wrong with either or.
No, there is something wrong with it. So let me tell you what's wrong with it.
No, there is something wrong with it.
So let me tell you what's wrong with it.
The guy that fronted the money is just as valuable as the nigga that knows what to do with the money.
True story.
Neither one are more valuable than the other person. So granted, okay, Lior was using Doug Morris's or somebody's money, right?
He was moving it.
money right he was moving it he controlled it and he gave positions of power to a bunch of black niggas that probably wouldn't have gotten it uh at that at that level of acceleration
i'm biased for my own reasons but if i could have this conversation with anybody i would
i would have it with dame like because i i have an idea of what I think a culture vulture is.
And trust me, there's a lot of them out there.
For sure.
I just don't think Lior is one of them.
And I'm open to being wrong.
All right.
Well, to that point, what do you think when they were talking about Lior signing artists
and they may have drug problems and capitalizing on that aspect.
And Lior, his answer was a little kind of all over the place.
I mean, I got him saying, I got to feed my kids.
I thought it was very direct.
But then right before that, he was saying like, no, we'll help him or whatever.
It was like, no, I don't care.
I have to feed my kids.
It was just kind of a little wishy-washy to me on really directly answering that question.
I would sort of say, yo, this is business.
As long as the kid can make me money, that's fine.
But that, some people would call a culture vulture.
I felt like he tried to
stay on both sides. He tried to stay on both sides
of the question.
That's such a bullshit hip-hop narrative.
That's trash.
That's trash. No, I'm
not rolling.
We gonna get Dame up here one day. That's how we'll talk. I'm gonna'm not rolling let we don't get we gonna get Dame up here one day that's how we talk
I'm gonna reach out to him I mean I've spoken to Dame a bunch in the last the last month not about
this of course uh because I would never I respect all three of these men immensely right so I don't
even bring it up because they brought it up. But what was we just saying before?
Because you was making a point. About the drugs.
Yo, let me explain something to people out there.
Do y'all know that Leo Cohen was the president?
Yeah.
Why are people asking him like he's the first line of defense
on the opioid and drug epidemic right uh go uh
that our artists are going to do y'all know these niggas normally don't never even
during leo's reign niggas never even saw him you saw him twice a quarter maybe i think they
were speaking more to 300 in the recent signees of the past five years. Do you think that Lior Cohen is not going to sign a nigga because they have a pill problem?
Yes.
I don't think that's him taking advantage of.
You could call almost anybody in music ever a culture vulture.
Yeah, it's not fair.
If allowing people to do drugs or not, because you can't make someone not do drugs.
And almost every musician or artist, not to pigeonhole us,
but everybody has some chemical dependency thing at some point, most artists.
I'm not disagreeing with that.
I think The Breakfast Club was just asking him where he morally stands
in helping these kids with it.
I'm just giving you guys the info.
To me, it felt like he was playing both sides of saying,
yeah, I mean, we would like to help them,
and then afterwards shifted to, man, I got a business to sides of saying, yeah, I mean, we would like to help them.
And then afterwards shifted to, man, I got kids.
I got a business to run.
See, I heard that entirely different.
I heard him say, yo, I'll never give up on people.
I'll never give up on people.
Yes, I put talent first because that is my job.
But it's not like I'm signing you on talent and then I'm not giving a fuck about your fucking well-being.
Like, when I see niggas and they on some bullshit,
that's the first thing I say.
Yo, you drinking coffee, you're killing yourself.
You're smoking cigarettes, you're killing yourself.
He said all of that.
But Lior, he talks like he talks.
So it came off like that.
I didn't see a problem with that either. If we're going to hold
him to it, then I got a million other niggas
we're going to hold. I agree with you.
Nobody's saying this is a
Lior problem. This is a music
business problem. Definitely.
This is beyond music business. You can't
control what everybody does
to their bodies. At some point,
you have to just...
You offer a hand. If they don't take the hand
you keep it moving like and i'm not necessarily saying that it's a music business or music people
problem because i want drugs in music i'm serious i'm not i'm not joking and y'all know my stance on
on drugs and all that shit i i don't want a creative world where drugs have no influence on the art.
I do not.
What do you mean, though?
I mean, if you take drugs off the face of the earth, I don't want to hear all of those songs that y'all just made.
All of y'all.
I don't.
Drugs do have a place in music and and and in creating it depends on how the personality
is using said drug I am against people abusing drugs and self-destructing and not taking care
of themselves and just not being responsible using drugs right but there's a million artists
I don't want it are you telling me I don't get doggy style Right
No but
Because
I understand
Miles Davis
Like yeah
I understand what you're saying
Billie Holiday
Stevie
Fucking
You know the
The great great great Stevie
Basically every artist
We know what you're saying
Right
I just
I'm just against
You don't have to explain it
We get what you're saying there
But that's not saying
That I condone
The pumps
The
The
Yams The I'm not with I'm not with it But that's not saying that I condone the pumps, the yams.
I'm not with it.
I do think that people should be allowed the space to make great decisions for themselves and think responsibly.
And I think that other people should intervene when that person shows they are unable to do so.
person shows they are unable to do so.
I just have a... My problem with the whole drug thing
in music is now it's become
like a normal thing
for these young
artists to just talk about
doing different drugs.
That's the problem I have because now you're
pushing that message onto
the kids and the generation that
are listening to it.
Now these kids who are not even trying to tap into nothing creative,
they're just out sipping lean and popping pills and doing all this shit,
and it's like they're killing themselves just because their favorite rapper
or musician is talking about it in his music, and he's pushing that like,
yeah, this is what I'm on.
This is what I do, da-da-da-da.
And it's like these kids are just doing this shit and they don't have no.
I'm stepping to the artist and I'm stepping to the artist's day-to-day team
and whoever is with that person or handles or manages that person day-to-day.
Lior Cohen is not the person.
No, I'm not.
No, I'm not putting this on Lior at all.
I'm just saying when you say drugs has a place in music,
I understand where you're going with that.
But it's also a fine line because you have a lot of these rappers now pushing this drug thing.
Oh, that was my other point about Lior.
Let me be clear.
In my experience with him, I've never heard them tell somebody to push a drug image.
I've never heard it now they signed a lot of niggas that
wild out me x keith murray fucking i can name a bunch but they didn't now i've seen them say
yo go fake a relationship i've seen them say you know i've seen some of the fake fuck shit
i've seen them say fake some beef i've never heard Lior or his people say
Yo go fake the drug habit
I'm not putting that
I'm just not putting that on him
Yeah no I don't put that on
No
I'm not putting that on
No but you taking drugs
You doing that's
On you
I'm not putting that
On anybody else
I'm just saying
I just don't
The era now
Is just that
They're trying to make it like
It's cool to do these drugs
When it's really not
You know what I mean And that's just Where we lost it like it's cool to do these drugs when it's really not.
You know what I mean?
And that's just what we lost it at.
It's like these rappers now making it like you can't have it. It's a little too overt in the lyrics.
Yeah, it's way too much.
And it's like, you know, you're talking about doing, you did 30 Zans, you're lying.
When did you, you still here?
You know what I mean?
Like, stop.
Because now some kid is going to go out tonight and try to do 30 Zans.
You didn't do 30 Zans.
Yeah, like, stop it. Like, knock it off. You know what I mean do 30 Zans. You didn't do 30 Zans. Yeah, like stop it.
Knock it off.
You know what I mean?
Like stop.
You didn't do five.
Right.
Depending on what Zan you got.
Right.
You didn't do a lot of Zans.
Right.
All right, Moe.
Damn it.
The Moe?
I caused it from the top?
Yeah.
Come on.
You on this.
Yo, man.
The kids is just dying out there.
There's nothing we can do.
They're going to use drugs forever and die.
There they are.
There they are.
These niggas is wild.
These niggas is crazy.
You're right about that.
I'm thinking about changing the happy song from outstanding, by the way.
To what?
In and out of my life, Gap Band.
Okay.
I want to keep the Gap Band.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Got to keep the Gap Band.
No, got to keep the Gap Band. I'm not Gatman. Well, you're keeping it Gatman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got to keep it Gatman. Got to keep it. No, got to keep it Gatman.
I'm not mad at that.
Yeah, yeah.
I think it will work.
Anybody else got more
Lior thoughts?
Oh, shut up, shut up.
I don't care.
All right.
We back.
Anybody with more legal thoughts?
No, I thought it was an informative interview, though.
I was real happy that he did it.
I don't think he was real happy after he did it.
He seemed real awkward.
I don't think so, either.
I spoke to him afterward.
I did speak to him afterward.
I called him to say I enjoyed the interview.
Because I was happy that he did it.
So many times I want to interview some of these executive niggas,
and they wouldn't dare sit before me.
That's true.
So for him to sit in front of Charlamagne and just answer away at everything, oh, wonderful, wonderful.
I think more.
I want to see him sit with Dame.
You won't see it.
Yeah, I don't think you'll ever see it.
I would like to see it, too, but he's just not going to do that.
Why?
Because Leo has no reason to sit with Dame.
Okay.
Actually, it's really not true. They probably could do that. Why? Because Lior has no reason to sit with Dame. Okay. Actually, it's really not true. They probably
could do business. Lior's at YouTube.
Dame has a whole fucking
content compound
over there. Right. Yeah.
I'm just saying, I would like to see him and Dame
sit down and talk and
get all of that out. Listen, I'm just happy that I get
to see Dame. I get to see Lior.
I get to see Hov.
It was a little stretch where Dame was tucked away.
Couldn't see him.
I'm happy I get everyone's visible.
So I'm happy about it.
And seem to be doing what they want to do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Exactly what they want to do.
So yeah.
And I've been reading Dame's Culture Vulture book. I don't know if that definition just might not apply to Lior.
I just don't think.
I personally would like to ask Dame about it.
It's a good book, though.
Everyone should check it out.
Really good book.
You can stream it, too, which is awesome.
Astroworld?
Could start there.
I'm going to go out and say I think that was the best project that came out on Friday.
Really?
Yeah.
Easily.
Pretty confidently.
Easily?
Easily.
Pretty confidently. Easily. Get them parks. Uh-oh. No, don't let them say that, Yeah. Easily. Pretty confidently. Easily? Easily. Pretty confidently.
Easily.
Get them parks.
Uh-oh.
No, don't let them
say that, parks.
Easily.
Easily.
I found it personally
difficult to get into.
Easily the best probably.
Well, you need to take
30 Zans, my brother.
Maybe so.
Maybe so.
That was easily the best.
I might be on the wrong drugs.
You know what that felt like?
Because I think we said
that when we were naming
the music that was coming out, I think we said that- I were naming The music that was coming out
I think we said that
I thought Russ was dropping
My apologies y'all
Yeah
But even in that
We had said that Travis
Would have the most
Critically acclaimed album
Yeah
We did yes
That was an easy call
He
Yeah we shouldn't be
Awarded for that
We're trash
Yo this
This album
This album is gonna be
We're gonna look back
At this album This is gonna be a We're gonna look back at this album
This is gonna be a play
A very important part
In Travis' career
Only because the way that
He structured
Like he really
This felt like an
An album from like
The early
The way he structured it
Like the early 2000s
As far as like
I could tell he was very calculated
In what he was doing
The music The track listing The sequencing Like he paid attention 2000s. As far as like, I could tell he was very calculated in what he was doing.
The music,
the track listing,
the sequencing,
like he paid attention to all the things
that artists used
to pay attention to.
Yeah.
And I was surprised.
I'm not going to lie to you.
Like I'm not the
biggest Travis Scott fan.
I do recognize
that he does make
Even though y'all family?
Are we family?
I'm both in the
Kardashian family.
Whatever.
But I didn't think that.
I was like almost intrigued.
I was like, oh, wow.
I didn't even know Maul had.
You know, Maul's related to man industry, niggas.
No, I'm not.
Like, Maul's really the family with these niggas.
No, I'm not.
Like, when Fadi put in the family?
I didn't expect him to make such a well.
And he usually does make good projects.
But this was like
like it really surprised me
it felt like it was
definitely a year
and some change
like this wasn't something
he had all his mans
and them in the studio
and let's knock this out
in six months
like it felt like
him and Mike Dean
sat there
for over a year
just the two of them
I hate these niggas
I don't think
I think it was the
best placed features of any album this year they were everyone was perfect rory always has a new
compliment that i never heard i think that was the best structured placed feature that i've ever
heard on an album you want to know my beef with joe like my real beef with joe well the real beef
i want to i don't want to eat a fake beef. Let me do a real beef.
Anytime we'll get into a topic
or try to talk about something,
he'll try to shut it down right away.
But then if we're just not as vocal,
yo, y'all don't even want to get into shit.
Y'all don't even want to talk about shit.
Oh, yeah.
And then the moment we talk about it,
he just tries to shut it down
and fuck it all up.
All right.
So let me give you a little information.
That's not true. Let me give you a little information. That's not true.
Let me give you a little information.
That's not true.
Now I know.
Let me give you some behind the scenes pre-production and post-production work.
When I be jumping in with y'all, it's just to tease y'all and then for y'all to get right back to the shit.
Never to step on it or stop it.
I want to just crack on y'all and make jokes.
It's not to get y'all to stop. My memory is bad
so I'll lose focus of some
shit. I'm not thinking that that's the case
with y'all. So I take advantage of that.
Is that alright? Do you understand now?
That was a good footnote.
So it was the best placed features
of all time. Yeah, you were saying.
I didn't say of all time. I said of any
album this year. The last 30 years. 35 were saying? I didn't say of all time. I said of any album this year.
The last 30 years.
35.
No, I didn't think any feature went to waste.
I feel like a lot of artists be like,
all right, this might be my single,
so let's put Drake there.
Or let's, this is my weekend hook.
This is where my R&B shit should be.
I felt like that wasn't thought about.
It was just placed perfectly per song.
The weekend sounds amazing, and that wouldn't really be a weekend song. I felt like that wasn't thought about. It was just placed perfectly per song. The Weeknd sounds amazing and that wouldn't really be a Weeknd
song.
I just think Sway Lee
at the end of that sicko joint was
just a good, perfect 12
seconds. It was just a really well
put together album to me. I think it was well put
together too. There wasn't enough
differentiation between songs
to me personally. I'm a Travis Scott fan.
17
scared me with Travis because sometimes a lot
of his shit does sound very, very similar.
That's not true on his early projects at least.
His last album, that was
my beef with his last album.
It seemed like I was in the minority with that.
I was running around asking everybody
what they thought about the album, what they thought about the first
three, four, five songs. They were like, oh, this shit is crazy.
And I kind of felt like, yo, the Travis fans are fronting.
Like, you know how you just feel like a fan base is lying?
He's got a strong hive.
The Travis hive is very strong.
I know.
And that last album wasn't a bad album.
I like the last album.
But my complaints were it didn't sound like he was there.
were it didn't sound like he he was there it didn't sound like he really put his foot into that album a lot of the songs sounded similar to me uh it just sounded very lazy to me but when
when i was the only one that felt like that really i thought okay maybe I'm just wrong. Right. Maybe I'm off about that. Right. Intro Astroworld.
And just from how they would promote in the fucking artwork.
Right.
I was like, oh, this is different.
It's about to be some shit.
This is different.
Everything about how they moved before I heard any music told me that this was going to be different.
And then when I heard the music, I said, oh shit,
this sounds different.
This sounds like you really was present,
trying to go there.
The features,
all the shit that they named,
the sequencing,
the little spots here and there. The production was incredible.
Everything all around the place was great.
The concept,
all of the Houston shit.
And then when his numbers reflected the big jump, I said, oh, okay.
See, now this is good.
This is great to see.
See, that's why I liked Scorpion a lot, I guess, because it's not very many albums.
Kendrick, when he dropped, it's not very many albums where you can damn near pinpoint the
direct attention that the artist team paid to the whole campaign right
to everything scorpion was that astroworld is that kendrick is always that koloids comes out
in a cold wave but it's different so he has a way like i appreciated that with this album with him
yeah and i think uh to to your two point of Travis sometimes
sounding similar in that
I think his sound
grew with the shit
like Stop Tryin' To Be God.
I think that was
a notch up
from a regular Travis.
Who's Tryin' To Be God?
Who's Tryin' To Be God?
Who's Tryin' To Be God?
Come on, come on,
let's do it, let's do it.
Who's Tryin' To Be God?
Who's Tryin' To Be God?
Come on, come on,
don't try to just
have a smooth talk.
You know who's Tryin' To Be God.
You know who's Tryin' To Be God.
Stop Tryin' To Be God.
He killed it.
You just jazzy'd that shit up, Chris.
What record is that?
That's not Travis Scott.
That's not Travis Scott.
That's not Travis Scott.
That's the second one.
The second one is a pause.
Stop trying to be gone.
Yes, it is.
Wait, hold on.
Why do you do that?
What's up with y'all
What instrument is this
That's a pause
Oh that's
I'm hitting pause
Okay got you
All five of your fingers
Are hitting pause
It's this finger Rory
You went like this
You did this
You did this
Like on the downbeat
So it was like
So that's why I thought
You were playing the keys
But alright whatever
That's cool
Coffee Bean was a little different That's one of my favorite songs On the album I thought you were playing the keys, but all right, whatever. That's cool. Coffee Bean was a little different.
That's one of my favorite songs on the album.
I thought that was definitely not in the Travis realm.
It was kind of pre-Houston-ish to me.
I wouldn't say boom bat, but remnants of that.
Okay.
I'm really bad at song titles, so I just be listening.
It's the last...
I'm terrible at song titles.
Someone would be like, yo, what's your favorite song by them?
Some of my favorite records, I don't know the name of the song.
At all.
Ever.
That's a new thing, though.
Was that ever like that when y'all were younger?
Yeah.
CDs, tapes.
That was even worse back then, honestly.
Because you couldn't look at the phone.
Some of my favorite Biggie joints, I don't know the name of the record.
Some of my favorite pop, I don't know the name of the record.
Oh, I think just when the iPod came with the shuffle it kind of killed me sitting with an
album for a while and that's the only thing that was in my CD player for the whole day see I couldn't
switch it it was harder for me back then because there was no id3 tags or whatever you couldn't
see the song title when it was on the CD player it was just track I would have I'd have the disc
what do you what do you like bonding right now something? Nobody gives a fuck about any of this shit y'all.
About reminiscing on how you consume music.
Why you looking at me, man?
Because I let it rock for like 20 seconds.
No, listen.
What the fuck?
All right, come on, man.
You contact King.
What's up?
How did you feel about the album?
What album?
Travis's.
Did you like it?
I thought I said it already.
You liked it?
I liked it. Okay. I liked it. I did like it. What about her? How you Did you like it? Oh I thought I said it already You liked it? I liked it
Okay
I liked it
I did like it
What about her?
How you feel about that project?
I liked it
I didn't like it
Really?
Really
I was disappointed
Huh?
Huh?
I'm not gonna lie
I was disappointed
Oh man
I'm coming here just trying to be the contrary
No no no
I was expecting
Coming off the other joints
I was expecting this to like...
Nah, it's only six songs.
Whatever it is,
she put it out.
Yeah, no doubt.
I'm just saying,
with this project,
I'm not...
I just didn't really
have high expectations.
It didn't do nothing for me.
To me, a six song says,
hey, I want to hit you
with some music,
but I'm not really
going to go that deep.
Here's something in the meantime
before my album.
All right, so stop doing that.
Well, I liked it. Sometimes you got to feed your fans. But's something in the meantime before my album. All right, so stop doing that. Well, I liked it.
Sometimes you got to feed your fans.
But it was good.
Especially in this era.
I didn't like it.
But tell me more.
I like maybe two songs.
Maybe.
To me, that's good on a six song.
Hold on.
I maybe like two songs.
I think I like three.
I'm not running back to play that.
I'll go and play the other projects
before I play that.
I'm definitely not running back to play that.
That doesn't have much replay value to me, these records she put out.
I mean, any six song album like that doesn't really have a lot of replay value.
That's the thing with the EP.
Okay, was this...
All right, so can we compare for a second?
I hate doing this.
I don't want to hear your voice over this angel's crooning.
I like this record. No, no, no. I don't want to hear your voice over this angel's crooning. I like this record.
No, no, no.
I don't want to hear you.
I don't want to hear what you like.
I don't want to.
I don't care.
No, don't defend yourself.
I'm just saying.
That's one of them.
What's wrong with you?
That's one.
Don't get crazy, Maul.
That's one.
Parks.
Your laptop is dying. I don't want no one else So we should be chillin' back Ain't nothin' wrong with that So tell me that, tell me that That's one.
I like that record.
I like that record.
You like the Bryson Tiller record?
Yes.
It's cool. Yes, record? Yes It's cool
Yes, you do
It's cool
Do you like her rapping?
Okay, let's compare for a second
Is this project better than Tiana's?
I like it about the same
I think it has more replay value
I like it about the same
You think this project has more replay value than Tiana's project?
I really only go back to the beautiful joint.
I skipped two on here.
I skipped two on Tiana.
Three, really, on Tiana.
I skipped two on here, three on there.
I don't hold it against either, so they're like the same to me.
I skipped the Kanye record on Tiana.
I skipped Work This Pussy and the gospel song I don't really need all the time.
And on this, I never want to hear Lost Souls, even though she did a good job rapping. I don't really need all the time. And on this, I never want to hear, I don't want to hear Lost Souls,
even though she did a good job rapping.
I don't want to hear that.
Yeah, I think that was one of those records that.
No, I liked it a lot.
It's just not something I got to go turn that on real quick.
You already give me a little Lauren on the singing.
I don't need you to give me a little Lauren on the rapping,
especially with your beat selection and sample.
I don't need that from her. I thought it was a good flip. I didn't think it was out of the singing. I don't need you to give me a little Lauren on the rapping, especially with your beat selection and sample. I don't need that from her. I thought it was a good flip. I didn't think it was
out of the ordinary. Yeah, I just wasn't
maybe my expectations were
too high, maybe.
I was really
excited when I heard she was putting out a project.
But this is not the project.
No, I know that.
I know this isn't, but I'm saying I was
excited to hear that she was releasing music, is what I'm saying.
This As I Am record, I really hope that they put some money behind it and do something, and it does something for her.
Because this record has all the elements of the R&B record that works.
All right, let me turn this down.
First of all, that snap.
You hear that snap?
Love the snap. Most of the R&B records. First of all, that snap. You hear that snap? Love the snap.
Most of the R&B records that work, they have the snap.
Oh, wait.
Chords.
Spotty chords.
Look.
Piano chords.
Hits.
All the good ones.
And whenever you put Go Brooklyn or something.
Yes, that's what I'm telling you.
These drums with the Go Brooklyn sample, she was chasing.
Travis used that too, right?
That sonic shit?
Yeah, this is gonna this is gonna work
and you know what
you know what I can tell
because on her last project
she had a record
did she have a record
with Ty Dolla
nah
she needs one
I think everyone does
you need one
Parks needs one
we all need a record
with Ty Dolla
her and Ty Dolla
I think they need
a record together
on her last project
she put a joint out
like a single
that I thought was like
it sounded like
she was trying to
chase a single
this just sounds
right up her alley
so I just
I fuck with her a lot
that's one of the records
I like
what did you guys
think about the little
poem when she was
trying to tell us
about ourselves
I cut it right off
I listened
no no no
at first I listened to it
and when I listened
to it alone
I really appreciated
like the artistic integrity all the words the way she put them together when I listened to it with and when I listened to it alone, I really appreciated the artistic integrity, all the words, the way she put them together.
When I listened to it with my girl, I cut that shit right off.
I skipped that shit ASAP.
Skip!
Yeah, no.
I was curious with her writing staff.
I know how talented she is and how much I've been vocal about how talented she is, but that's a lot of shit that a 20-year-old I don't think could write on this EP.
Just her age, not who she is. She's only 20. of shit that a 20-year-old I don't think could write on this EP. Just her age,
not who she is.
She's only 20?
Who's 20?
Her.
For real?
No way.
Yes way.
That's not her industry age.
Nah.
That's not her industry age.
Really?
She's no older than 21.
Damn.
That's why I was like,
listen, I was like,
all right,
this is really good.
I don't know any 20-year-old
that could do this shit.
Oh, she's only 20 or 21.
We got to get her songs
the fuck out of here
and she ain't go through nothing.
Who the fuck is she
so heartbroken about?
This is why she was trying to
hide the image a little bit
because when she came
into the industry,
she was so young.
So she didn't want people
to remember that that was her.
Changed her name.
Yeah, she changed her name.
It was kind of like...
Yeah, she's 21.
Hey, listen.
That's kind of the same story.
Jhene was young, coming in real young, early.
Definitely what Jhene is.
Hey, hey, listen.
I would like a new Jhene album.
There's two albums I'm waiting for.
Jhene...
Hold on.
Jhene's last one wasn't that long ago.
It was last...
No, but it's fire.
It was fire.
That was the one that was like three hours long, right?
It was definitely... It was long. It was fire, though. It was fire. I enjoyed it. That's fire It was fire That was the one That was like Three hours long right It was definitely It was long
It was fire though
It was fire
I enjoyed it
That's why I was saying
I don't know
She makes
Jenea makes good music
She makes
Yeah she makes good
Yeah good bodies of work
Her I'm waiting on
I'm waiting on Rihanna's shit
Yeah whatever the word is
That all dance hall album
Whatever she say
She's coming with
I'm waiting for it
She can say whatever
She can say a country album
I'm still waiting for it
Yeah I'm waiting for that too So can say whatever. She can say a country album. I'm still waiting for it. Yeah, I'm waiting for that, too.
So let's see.
What else?
What else?
What else?
Mac Miller came out.
Mac Miller surprised the shit out of me.
Parks, lower your eyebrows.
Listen, man.
Your eyebrows are perky.
And the eyebrows went all the way up when Mac Miller came up, boy.
That's Rory's cousin.
Rory has mad cousins.
That's true.
At this point, I'll tell anyone that has red hair and a pair of tattoos.
Parks hit the group chat 6 a.m. on a Saturday morning.
It was not 6 a.m.
Hey, I don't know about you guys, but this Mac Miller one is the one I'm kidding for.
I don't even think it was 6 in the morning.
I think it was 12.01.
I think the album had been out for one minute.
Yeah, yo, nobody was even in there talking.
He's like, I don't know about you guys.
This is the one that I'm putting on repeat.
Talks cold to the classic at 12.14.
Classic, for sure.
Should have went triple.
The album is 45 minutes.
12.14 is like a classic.
Well, no, I will say this.
I got cursed out for not bringing up
Mac Miller's single from like last week
or something he put out a single
and everybody's like, yo, what about Mac Miller?
I had no idea he was coming out with that album.
Me neither. And it's actually pretty
good. I've never really been like a super Mac Miller
guy. Mac Miller makes good
bodies. So my thing, I enjoyed the album, but
it was hard to listen to it and not think of his
last album because his last album
was fucking... His last album was better.
Really? No, his last album was really good. His last album was better.
You didn't hear his last album? I don't know if I did. He makes good music.
His last album was real good. I feel like was better. You didn't hear his last album? I don't know if I did. He makes good music. His last album was real good.
I feel like I've heard all his albums one time and never listened to them again.
So this album was like, let me put this shit on.
The last one was more like in this wave where it's not just straight boom bap rapping.
Like he changed his artistry, if you will.
Yeah, he's trying to be a little...
I mean, you got to give him credit because he does produce a lot of this shit and play
a lot of these instruments.
Well, it was like live horn sections and shit on this, which I'm a sucker for.
You get horn sections and roads and live drums on a song, I'm probably going to like that shit.
I do think some of the...
I never looked at Mac Miller as like the super lyrical guy, but I do think he focused a little too much on the production.
And I think some of the content suffered because of it.
I wasn't really listening to what he was saying.
I was just listening to how it sounded.
Okay.
Did y'all hear YG's album at all?
Mm-hmm.
I gave it one listen.
I listened to it twice.
All right,
so this is YG's third album?
Yeah.
Yes.
It is, yeah, third.
So which one is...
Did Tune It and Boot It
get an album?
Which one is the real YG?
This one kind of goes back to...
I mean, it was him
and Mustard again,
so it at least
sort of sounds like Crazy...
What was it called?
My Crazy Life?
My Crazy Life.
Which to me is a classic.
I love that album.
So I don't...
I don't think this album sounded like that one.
I was going to say,
I didn't hear any reminisce.
I don't think this was...
It didn't remind me of it.
I guess it's just the Mustard and YG connection
that at least gave me Somewhat back in that
Whereas the second album he used a bunch of different producers
It didn't really sound
This sounded more
Not super producer mustard
But like more polished mustard
My Crazy Life was like real grimy
Also had
Terrace Martin did a lot of that shit
Which will change your album
Just with one person
yeah
but nah
this YG one
I'll give it another listen
again I've only listened to it once
but it wasn't my favorite
out of all the albums
that came out
I liked it though
on Friday
when I put it on
I was like
oh I like this
it's good
because the second album
I didn't really like that much
and I think
I listened to it
in my living room
I don't know if that's
the best place
to hear a YG album
nah
I was listening to it
on the TV
when me and my girl were just hanging out, having
some drinks or whatever, and I was like, you got to put the subwoofer on.
Hearing that album without music, without bass, is not going to cut it.
But I thought it was pretty good.
Content King, we don't want to interrupt you.
What did you think of the album?
You seem disinterested.
Maul, did you listen to the album?
Which one?
YG
This is like four songs
What did you think?
I didn't go through the whole joint
I mean, it's YG
Is that Thunder?
Yes
Lightning?
That's the choir song
Don't worry about that
Nah, I checked the weather
I didn't see nothing about rain
It's coming
It says QS
Next to the choir song You didn't see about rain It's coming It says QS Next to the choir song
You ain't see that?
You gotta look for the QS
I just thought
I just thought it was cool, Rory
Since you asked
I just thought it was
Alright
I'm definitely gonna listen to it
Honestly, I've been
I've been stuck on
Astroworld
And I listened to that Buddy project
The project is dope
Shit is dope, right? Yeah A lot of people telling me To check out the Buddy project Yeah, I listened to it And project the project is dope shit is dope right
yeah
a lot of people telling me
to check out the Buddy project
yeah
and they're judging me
for not having checked out
that Buddy project
reminds me of
soundtracks from like
dope 90's movies
hmm
like
you know what I mean
it gave me that feel
like from a dope
Spike Lee movie
hmm
I liked it
yeah
I liked that project
did you guys listen to
the gangster
Travis Scott the Baka project?
No.
No.
I didn't hear Baka yet.
No.
You heard it?
Yeah.
How is it?
It's cool.
It's what you think it is.
Yeah?
Is Baka saying really gangster things over things that sound like Travis Scott?
I got to check that out.
Honestly, I do have to check it out.
His Know My Name single, I love that record.
But, you know, the project was what I thought it was going to be. All right. I'm going to check it out. His Know My Name single. I love that record. But, you know, the project was
what I thought
it was going to be.
Right.
I'm going to check it out.
Let me go back
to Astroworld
for two seconds.
Y'all pay any mind
to the Drake
Checks Over Stripes line?
A lot of people
was asking for some
in-depth breakdown
on that Travis shit.
Like the lyrics
were super in-depth?
Yeah.
He's not the guy for that.
And I don't think
he would say he was that guy.
But does that confirm
though that Pusha made
Aubrey lose his
Adidas deal?
You can assume
there was some shady
business going on
with the child thing.
I don't think Drake's
just saying that
for no reason.
No, he lost the deal. And he didn't lose it on great terms. I don't, yeah, but I don't think Drake's just saying that for no reason. Nah, he lost the deal.
And he didn't lose it on great terms.
I don't, yeah, but I don't think
Wait, you think he lost the deal
or didn't want to do it? I just don't think Pusha is capable
of making Drake lose anything.
Shit. I don't think he is. Drake is way too
big of an artist. No, I don't think
Is Pusha like a president or some shit of artist
relations or some shit? I would love to know what that means.
I don't care what Pusha is as he is.
I'm dying to know
what that means.
to stand by our company.
So you don't think
there's any juice?
They got to stop doing that.
You don't think there's any?
There's no juice there?
I'm just saying,
I don't think Pusha
can stop Drake
from getting anything.
I don't,
he didn't stop anything.
A lot,
no, yeah,
no, no, no,
I disagree.
A lot of those contracts, especially for the type of money that's in the Drake contract,
they have clauses and shit where if some info is leaked or if you break some shit,
then they have a right to be able to pull out.
So when you say I don't think Push can do it, yeah, I agree with you.
But if Kanye, who's a pretty high-ranking executive at Adidas, I'm assuming,
got some info and shared it to Push and Push leaked it, then somebody would have wanted to pull out the deal.
I don't know if it was Aubrey or Adidas.
I could see Drake pulling out of that deal before Kanye or Push is stopping him from fucking up that deal.
I could see that.
But wait a minute.
Y'all was dying to get the Drake Jordans.
Tell the truth.
Tell the truth.
Don't lie.
Do not lie.
There was a pair that was dope.
There was a pair of the OVO J's that was dope.
You waited in line?
I'm not.
I'm never waiting in line for no sneakers.
But I'm off the Jordan thing.
I'm not really.
I'm waiting for one more pair.
You're not going to get the Supreme Js?
No, I'm cool.
Did they even sell the Drake Jordans?
The Kith LeBrons?
No.
The Kith Odells?
No, thank you.
The Kith Victor Caruchis?
No, thank you.
The Caruchi Cruises?
No, thank you.
The Caruchi Cruises.
I might call my girl some Caruchi Cruises.
I would.
I would. I would.
That's a couple that looks happy and in love.
Yeah.
And they both look pretty in shape.
Everyone looks happy and in love when it's new.
I see a few pictures of me in thin wear.
I'm like, you can tell I don't want to be there.
The first three months.
I don't want to be in that picture.
The first three months is goals.
Nah, Carucci and Victor Cruz haven't taken a picture with shirts on in months.
They've been in tropical weather shirtless.
They've been in LA.
And they're both the same complexion.
They've just been in LA.
No, they're not.
They are underneath the Hawaiian sun.
Listen, whatever sun they're underneath, it has them both looking pretty golden.
Both with sand on their arms.
Is Vic on the team?
Ain't he on the Bears?
He's on Kith.
Vic going to fuck you up.
Vic going to fuck you up.
This is a fedora moment?
Vic going to fuck.
He going to fuck you up too, Joe.
Wait, what did I say that was bad?
I didn't say nothing.
He going to fuck both of y'all. I didn't even say I say that was bad I didn't say nothing I didn't even say nothing
no
but I didn't say it
Rory
wait did I say something
that wasn't
knowledge
I didn't cut it out
don't do that
you did
I didn't know that
nah we gotta leave it now
he plays for Kiff
is he not in every Kiff ad
I don't have some
special information
I see him on Kiff
what do you mean
he plays for Kiff
is there a Kiff team
yeah
have you seen their ads
he's in every ad nah I think Fab is on it? Have you seen their ads?
He's in every ad. No, I think Fab is on that team, too.
What team?
Wait, and what's wrong with the Kiff?
That is the starting backcourt for Kiff.
Victor Cruz and Fab.
I want to be on the Kiff team.
That's a nasty backcourt.
That's a nasty backcourt.
You don't think that's like the, what's the, the Clay, what's Clay and the Splash Brothers?
No.
I would leave Fab wide open from three.
Shoot it.
Did you see Fab's Gucci outfit?
Yeah.
We put it in a group chat.
I saw it.
You didn't reply.
Fab's going to fuck you up.
You didn't respond.
I didn't respond, no.
Where's my head for?
You didn't like the glasses?
No, I didn't like a lot about it.
And that just hurt me because it's like, damn.
But you know what?
No.
That was Fab's slip up moment though.
What you mean?
That's the first time
I've seen Fab slip like that
in years.
I don't care what nobody says.
That outfit,
I was just like,
nah, Fab.
It must have been,
he looked like they lost his luggage
and he just made something happen.
Like,
I'm going to make it happen.
You know what I'm saying?
Because Fab ain't slipped
in 25 years.
There was a couple
little slips.
Not like that.
Not like that. That was the give me whatever's designer fit. That's what that was. There was a couple little slaps. Not like that. Not like that.
That was the
give me whatever's
designer fit.
That's what that was.
That was,
because it was unique
because I said,
maybe it's just me.
But then I went
under the comments
and niggas was like,
nah, we love you Fab,
but this ain't it.
He had on a Gucci
big headband.
No, but he's
wore that before.
He's also worn
a paper towel.
No, but it was,
it was the,
it was the,
it was the,
it was the everything together. And it was the it was the it was the it was the
everything together
and it was the strut
yeah
the way they caught the flick
yeah
how can I tell the way
he was walking
in a still photo
yeah
when they catch you
when they catch you
your first step
as a guy
like that's not supposed
to be for us
that's for the woman
yeah
we should never
our feet
our feet should be together at all times.
You're only supposed to catch us when we getting out the vehicle.
Like on the first step out.
I don't want that.
Because when I'm in stride, I can look nasty.
There's no way to look cool in stride.
But I judge niggas, first of all, if you even get a pick taken of you getting out the V.
No, but if paparazzi is out there, yeah, you can't.
What you going to do?
Paparazzi's not waiting for me anywhere.
Or you, nigga.
Not you.
I'm just saying.
None of us here.
In general, if I'm a celebrity and I'm a guy,
I would only want them to catch my initial step out of the car.
If you want me to do something with my legs,
I'll give you the one foot up on them.
I'll give you the one foot on the wall action. Nah, but you can't pose, though, so you can't do that. No, I give you the one foot up on them. I give you the one foot on the wall action.
Nah, but you can't pose, though, so you can't do that.
No, I still pose.
Yeah, no, you can't pose.
Not for paparazzi.
You tripping.
No, I'm talking about for sin.
Oh.
What the fuck are you talking about?
I thought we'd been established that paparazzi is not taking pictures of me.
No, I know that.
I'm just talking about we talking about if they do catch you in stride, it's always nasty as a man.
Like,
a man in stride
in a still frame
is always disgusting.
Fab first step was nasty
in that he had the Timbs
with a zipper
with tube socks.
I don't care what they are.
I'm just telling you
what they were, bro.
Joke of the stylist
and all of a sudden
got all this to say.
I'm going to call Fab now.
He ain't going to answer.
He's going to know it's bullshit.
He's going to know it's bullshit.
He's not answering the phone.
He won't answer and text you and say, yo.
He's going to text back and be like, yo, nah, I'm not for it, Duke.
You're not booing me on your podcast.
Nah, I've seen your little show.
You're not catching me out there.
Well, y'all just talk.
No, I want this to directly go into the dial
that has to be that segway
did Emily put that ensemble together
more don't say ensemble
it was an ensemble
that's an ensemble
those things only go together
you can never wear that shirt
you can't wear those glasses
that's an ensemble. I know an ensemble
when I see one. That was an ensemble.
An ensemble?
Yeah, ensemble. Yeah, for sure.
Because you
got to put the boot, and I
think he was going with the top of the leather, the boot
to the leather shorts.
I saw where he was going with it.
He just didn't quite get us there.
We didn't all the way get there together
He dropped you at the corner
Yeah
Come on Fab
Give it to us
You know he's not answering
Fab is never answering
First of all you don't
The person you called
The person you called
God
Does not give a fuck with you
Nah
The person
He's coming back
Shh
Yeah
Nah
Yo what's good
Fab
This is Joe Budden From the joe button podcast don't say anything
incriminating all right all right we me and maul were talking about you behind your back
and and because i fuck with you that's usually how podcasts go that is a podcast no wait but
listen i'm not phony like that. So I would never do that.
I have to ask you.
The Gucci picture.
Gucci picture?
Girl, you know the pic, nigga.
You know the picture.
The ensemble.
You know the picture with the Gucci head wrap with you taking the first step in the Balmain Thames.
You know the pic.
Come on.
Oh, okay.
Come on, man.
Are you standing by it?
What about it?
Aw.
We got that as your one outfit slip up in the past 20 years.
Maul does.
I mean, everybody, even in that space, everybody, I guess, has an outfit.
If you say 20 years and you have an outfit, I guess, has an outfit.
If you say 20 years and you have an outfit,
I'm not mad at that.
But second of all,
some people dig it.
That outfit's
to each his own.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean...
Fab, did you just say
to each his own?
You think everybody's
thumbed up,
every one of y'all niggas?
I am the worst
dressed nigga in the world. No, mad thumbs down for my outfit.
Yeah, for sure.
But all right, listen.
So my last question is this.
Because forget about the outfit.
Did you agree with the photographer catching you when you were taking your first step?
Oh, I mean.
Come on.
Be honest.
I mean.
He fucked it up.
We can't take the first step pictures.
Come on, man.
We can't.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe I, you know, I wasn't in no like whole crazy position.
You know what I mean?
If it was like that, I just wouldn't post it.
If I was looking crazy, like, you know, if I was, you know if it was like that i just wouldn't post it if i was looking
crazy like you know if i was you know looking crazy then i wouldn't report but i you know
there's some that's to each his own too i guess you know maybe that was a picture that you wouldn't
have posted you know i was hoping your pictures are pretty flat ground like i don't even see any
motion in joke standing there with one hand
in his pocket.
With his eyebrows
bent up and looking away
to the scene.
You know what I mean?
I understand why
it wouldn't be
in your...
Thank you, sir.
I appreciate it. It was fun talking to you
Alright I gotta go
Oh now you gotta go
Bye nigga
That was funny
That was pretty funny
He was at
To two each his own
So he know
He kinda felt some way
About that fit
Niggas don't just say
To each his own twice
He saw the backlash
He read the comments
I couldn't even
I called to get some
Good jokes over
Once he started answering
for real.
He won't repeat that
outfit again though.
Trust me.
That outfit is out of here.
Damn it was one more
nigga I wanted to call.
Oh let me see.
Call Pizza Hut.
Why would I call Pizza Hut?
I don't know.
Get a pizza.
Pizza Hut was in his
last phone that was
stepped on and broken.
You don't have that number anymore. Oh since y'all want to talk about pizza I'll just tell y'all this. I don't know. Get a pizza. Pizza Hut was in his last phone that was stepped on and broken. You don't have that number anymore.
Oh, since y'all want to talk about pizza, I'll just tell y'all this.
I read the report.
Chicago will be the site of the U.S. Pizza Museum.
It's official, you bitch-ass niggas.
I mean, but the U.S. is trash.
They don't make the best decisions.
And I saw a bunch of niggas replying with, oh, the New York Dollar Pizza is the one.
Shut up, you fucking degenerates.
The New York Dollar Pizza is not the one.
The New York Dollar? You talking about the two brothers? Yeah, that's not the one. Shut up, you fucking degenerates. The New York dollar pizza is not the one.
The New York dollar pizza? You talking about the two brothers?
Yeah, that's not the one.
That shit terrible.
That shit is terrible.
I mean, when you're broken in a pinch, yeah, it's the one.
I mean, if you broke, anything tastes good.
That's true.
A saltine cracker tastes good if you broke.
Okay, so now let's see.
What else is really important?
All right, we did that.
Oh, that's who I wanted to call.
Who?
Ish.
For what? Let me tell you who I wanted to call. Who? Ish. For what?
Let me tell you who I wanted to call, Ish.
I thought I was doing a great deed,
and I surprised Sin with a ticket to On the Run to see Jay-Z and Beyonce on Friday night at MetLife.
You didn't go?
No.
You're weird.
Well, we knew that.
But why am I weird for that?
Why wouldn't you go to that show?
Y'all know I'm not a concert guy.
But, I mean, that's a thing.
That's a weird thing not to be.
There's nobody I want to see.
He's not a concert guy.
He was standing up singing the entire fucking Solange set at Radio City.
Because my girl wanted to see Solange.
She wanted to see Beyonce, too.
So I got her the ticket.
But you didn't go.
But Hov was there, too.
I didn't want to go.
You could rap with him.
I didn't want to do that part.
Nor would they have invited me on stage to rap with Hov.
No, he meant like, in the crowd, you could rap along.
You'd make a good hype man, though.
Rory.
You could rap along to him.
Let Rory get his shit off.
Go ahead.
No, I don't think he was saying anything bad.
Somehow I'm getting attacked a lot this podcast.
I don't really know why.
Do I deserve it?
There's nothing wrong with rapping along to Hov at a Hov concert.
You wouldn't be Hov's man.
No, I guess I would.
Bleak did it.
I would do it.
To be a hype man for Hov?
Yeah.
I don't think that's a bad thing either.
That's not a bad gig.
I don't think Hov has a hype man anymore though.
Yeah, he got rid of that
a long time ago.
Beyonce is.
He tried.
No, he's Beyonce's hype man.
Vice versa, yeah.
Well, that's kind of
what I want to call
issue about.
But let me finish
Gabby from
Come on, open phone.
That's kind of what I
That's your passcode.
Yo, open phone.
Can I give Lauren...
Industry shit.
Word.
What's the search?
Bad people named Gabby in the industry.
Word.
Sure.
All right, so listen to this.
So, this is a funny story,
and then I'll get to the end
and tell you why I want to call Ish.
My girl was really going crazy
about this Beyonce and whatever whatever shit so on Friday I
guess that's when the concert was happening so everybody with tickets was tweeting my girl making
her feel really bad so then she just thought I was a trash boy friend because she didn't have no
tickets so I made a last minute phone call I got her a ticket right her only uh because there was
only one ticket available and I wouldn't win I'm not a concert guy. Let her go have a blast.
She was going to go with Angie Martinez.
She was going to have a good time, right?
Okay.
A little name drop there, but that's who got the ticket.
Shout out to Angie, and thank you for that.
So her and I had something to do, so we went to dinner.
The dinner was supposed to be done by 8, so she could go to the concert and have a blast and see Beyonce, right?
So we went to the dinner
and after the dinner,
we went home.
She threw something on
and I thought Friday night
she would go to the concert.
I would go fuck around
and do ratchet shit
with my friends and my homeboys.
Okay.
Somehow she then needed a ride
to the concert, right?
She wanted to drink maybe.
Enjoy herself.
This is where as a boyfriend, I couldn't hide the perturbed face.
You know as a boyfriend, you put your face on, but you're not really ready to get into the beef.
You just are showing her that there's a beef ready.
Bad timing.
Yeah, I had that face on.
But it's cool.
Get in the car, drive her to MetLife.
Guess how much traffic is at MetLife?
You guessed it.
Mad people waiting to see Beyonce.
On a Friday.
On a Friday in New Jersey.
Sat there for mad long, did mad illegal tricks to eventually get her to her destination so she could meet Angie Martinez and go inside and watch the concert, right?
Sure.
Finally get in there.
I pull up to the fucking front of the door.
I say, that's right, baby.
I love you.
Get out and have a good time.
She said, you don't expect me to just get out
and walk around with all of these people
while we don't even know where Angie is, right?
That's a fair point.
True.
Hmm.
That's fair.
I'm not mad at that.
You just put her in Gen Pop?
Go ahead.
Oh, yeah.
You went to go to the concert, honey.
No, you can't do sin like that.
Why?
You know what the fuck was he?
You're the only one who want to see Beyonce?
But I can't say that.
I didn't say that.
I can't say that.
I can't say that.
So I just made an even stronger perturbed face.
And I didn't say nothing.
And we waited for 30 minutes which turned
into an hour which turned into like 90 minutes i was waiting a long time in an expensive car
yeah yeah anyway yeah beyonce eventually came on they went in late they had a blast but i say all
that to say i love the fact that he hasn't said j-Z at any point I'm waiting to see where Ish comes in
when you're surprising your girl
with Beyonce tickets
and she's in the beehive
you think that that's a free
guy
night to do fuck shit
is the point of me
elongating the story
so when I waited for an hour and a half
and I saw Friday night's hours
just passing by,
I didn't really have
any time to do very much.
So when I left,
I left the wrong way.
50 minutes to get home.
But I left
and I made one
last ditch phone call
to see if there was
some fuck shit
I could get into.
I called ish
It's didn't answer
So I said, you know what food is at home. Let me just go home eat dinner lay in bed watch TV Just do my guy thing at home, right? The next day comes
As it usually does you thought you had rollover minutes? Ish texts me in the afternoon.
He says, yo, seeing you hit me last night was at the show.
Wait, I'm so stupid that because I'm now talking to a guy,
I had no idea what fucking show he was talking about.
So I was stuck there trying to figure out.
He just said show like everybody should know the show.
Show, show, show, show.
Wait a minute.
This nigga Ish was at the Beyonce show.
And Jay-Z.
So I called.
And Jay-Z.
It's a huge part of this.
So I called Ish.
No, we got to call him.
Even if it was just a Beyonce show, you could be a dude at a Beyonce show.
I went to the lemonade shit.
Granted, I was with women.
Sure.
You better not be with the homie.
Going with the homies to the lemonade show?
With the homies, kind of crazy.
Not at lemonade, no.
You can't even drink lemonade with the homies.
No. Better be some Koy lemonade with the homies. No.
Better be some Koyak.
What if it's Simply?
Nah, fuck that.
How you reach yourself?
Oh, damn it.
Yeah, he had the DC show.
Anyway, when I hit Ish the next fucking day and he said,
I was at the Hov concert.
Okay.
Good way to word it.
And I said, no, you weren't.
No, you weren't. No, you weren't.
You had the Beyonce show, my nigga.
Don't try to make it sound tough, swaggy.
You was there too.
Like, no, I wasn't.
You was there.
No, I was home.
I was home.
And let me say, boy, I was there in that parking lot.
Yeah.
Now you see why.
Singers wouldn't look away
No
What?
Locked in
Wait you was trapped for an hour
And had to do the side eyes
Yes
That's tough for a walk by
Yeah
You have to sit there
And talk about
Oh look at her shoes
Check that on Converse
Yo Sin Ben stopped falling For a look at her nice shoes check out on converse yo
send Ben Stop Falling
for a look at her
nice shoes
yeah anyway
yeah I just
I just thought it was funny
I just wanted
I wanted to call it
so he could defend
being the only guy
at the Beyonce concert
it was the Hov show
there was guys there
the Hov came out
for three minutes
how long the Hov came out
for
the whole show
it's the two of them
the whole time so why do Beyonce fans be acting How long did the whole show came out for? The whole show. It's the two of them the whole time.
So why do Beyonce fans be acting like it's not a whole show?
Because Beyonce could come off of one song and they'd be there.
Yeah.
Beyonce could do a hook and they'd say it was Beyonce's show.
Does he do Where I'm From?
He should do Where I'm From.
If he does Where I'm From, it's a whole show.
I think he did that.
See?
I think so.
Let's see.
What else is really important?
Colton Roach,
Azealia Banks says
Beyonce needs to get over herself.
You know,
a couple weeks ago on this show,
you know,
I'm just telling you what she said,
I was kind of,
you know,
I was praying for Azealia
and I'm still praying for her.
But sometimes we gotta
Just let things go
He lied
Yeah
Y'all niggas worship him
You still praying for her?
I'm still gonna pray for her
Just quietly
How many times do you think
People are full of shit
When they say
I'm praying for somebody
All the time
I'm definitely full of shit
Right now
I don't think more
When have you ever
Got on your knees to pray
And Azealia Banks Came up on your mind I don't think more. When have you ever got on your knees to pray and Azealia Banks
came up on your mind?
I don't think more
prays for niggas.
What?
I do.
Don't strike me
as the pray for a nigga type.
What?
Trust me, I pray.
Azealia Banks
is not in my prayers.
I pray for my friends,
but I'll be honest,
sometimes I just put y'all
in the friend category.
I don't name names.
If you guys got
something going on specific maybe
i'll keep you all in my prayers but sometimes you just get the friend like my friends yeah i
generalize my friends my homies loved ones family i need to know which one of my friends are actually
specifically naming me in their prayers i feel like i should hold them at a higher friendship
pedestal than Rory.
Nah, but you're my friend and you're in
the group.
I don't like that.
I always feel guilty
about it when I'm
I always say prayers
in my group chats.
I just put all my
group chats in my
prayers.
Just the group chat
name.
Our group chat name
is really long.
Well, how many
group chats do you
have?
Because now I'm like,
what if you just got
like some random
Maul is a group
chat hoe.
Because I have two group chats. You're? Because now I'm like, what if you just got like some random... Maul is a group chat hoe. I'm a group chat hoe.
Because I have two group chats.
You're in our group chat,
the Rockets group chat.
I'm not in the Rockets group chat.
You are in the Rockets group chat.
The real OVO one.
Not ours.
You and Trev.
That's two people.
That's not a group chat.
Okay.
Do you text Trev?
Yeah.
Was he ever on the Rockets?
Yeah
I am
You in the Rockets group chat
It's not a group chat
You in the OVO group chat
No you don't
Y'all a group
No
Not in the OVO group chat
A group is two people though
If we keep it a buck
Was Mobb Deep a group?
We're the group
That's true
Yeah nigga that's the end of the group
Outkast was a group
That's true
Omar alright
So you're our LA insider
Did you see Game Fighting his teammate
At the Drew League
I feel like Game
Is always fighting
But yeah
That's what I appreciate about Game
Game is always up for a square one
But your own teammate though
Like come on man
What'd he do
I don't
I have no idea
I seen the full tape
And
They looked like they were
Just arguing about something
Wait how you got to see
The full tape
Because Maul was recording.
No, it was on the internet.
You just had to search for it.
And they were arguing.
It seemed like it was after a timeout.
They were arguing.
And Game, I think, slapped him or swung on him something.
How many games do they play in this league?
The Drew League?
Yeah.
It's throughout the summer, so every weekend.
So this is it like what?
Eight?
Maybe 12 games.
Have you ever played?
You could probably fight your teammate if you only played 12 games.
No, but come on, man.
You can't fight your teammate.
Not like that.
Listen, if you go into Huddlewood halftime and your team is losing it,
you feel like homeboy is really not – like, I mean.
Yeah, but come on.
You can mix it up a little bit.
In the locker room, maybe.
No.
Not on the court.
It ain't starting in the locker room.
Do they even have locker rooms in the Drew League?
It ain't starting there.
It started here.
Let's get to it.
Nah.
And how long is the timeout?
Yeah, that matters.
That matters.
That matters a lot.
If it's a full timeout.
I don't want to fight for the full timeout.
But 20 seconds?
20 second timeout, we can get 10 on the square up real quick.
I really appreciate games's square up game.
I do.
I smiled to myself when I saw that for a few reasons.
One, you don't really get to see niggas squaring up anymore.
So anytime you see somebody doing it, I smile.
It's a lost art.
Yeah, but Game popped on him and then squared up.
Well, I didn't see that part in my video.
Yeah, he popped on him. Well, isn't Well, I didn't see that part in my video. Yeah, he popped on him and then squared up.
Well, isn't that, you should square up after you pop on somebody.
Oh, no, you have to.
Now it's like, nigga, it's on now.
And I appreciated Game's history of run-ins on camera and being filmed.
I smiled for that.
Run-ins on camera?
No, he's been holding the camera while he's been punching somebody.
Yeah, that's true.
Oh, and then that's the third reason I smiled.
Because in watching the camera, when the last time you seen a nigga square up and get low in the square up,
anybody that can fight that says to me that you can fight, I enjoy seeing niggas that can fight in their footwork and they fight.
So I enjoyed all of it.
I took all of that out of a 12-second clip.
As soon as any nigga square up
there i'm looking at his feet and it was so i'm looking i'm the first thing i'm looking at is his
feet his stance and what's going on game did exactly what i expected him to do get your feet
right and get low i feel you yeah so i i enjoyed it I enjoyed it Yeah that was interesting
And I
Game ain't a short nigga
So the nigga he was fighting
I assume was about 6'8
Yeah he was tall
He was tall
Did I identify who it was?
I was looking
It was a friend of his
I mean he put out
Some long paragraph
Apologizing where
I'm not even gonna read it
Because Game was trying
To sound mushy
Oh they're friends?
Yeah
Oh that's different then
Yeah you can fight your friends
Absolutely
Yeah I fought every single one of them Yeah, you can fight your friends.
Yeah, that's fine. I fought every single one of them.
Y'all never fought your friends?
Every single one of them.
Do you think that you should be able to fight your friends?
Absolutely.
You can fight your...
It depends on what you're fighting about.
Nah.
And I don't know if I'm fighting my friend
at a basketball game like that.
We could tweak it.
That's the number one.
I'm definitely smacking the shit out of my friend.
We could do that in the parking lot
away from everyone.
I'm smacking you at a basketball game.
I'm not doing that to my friend.
Do that away from me.
Absolutely.
No, that's where you fight.
So where is it okay
to fight your friend?
If you're friends,
you could go somewhere else.
We're not doing this
in front of people.
Yeah.
It's my friend.
Nah, that's what you're doing.
I'm not popping on my friend
in front of a bunch of strangers.
I'm not doing that.
I agree with Mo.
My friend?
A nigga I call my friend?
I don't know anything
about the Drew League.
Is there actual people
in the crowd and shit?
Yeah. It's a big thing
Oh okay
It's a league
It's definitely a league
Yeah my friend though
I'm not in front of strangers
Yeah that's kind of crazy
But y'all would fight your friend
Oh yeah
Of course
I have
Fight friend
Anybody
I don't know if you're really friends
If you never
At least tussled
And scrapped a little bit
Nah you're friends if you never
Cause I got
Close friends that I've never tussled with,
but we got arguments and disputes,
but we never got physical,
but that's definitely my friends.
Never punched each other's arms,
at least, you know what I mean?
Something.
Yeah, but not in a serious.
Which of you guys' friendships do you value more?
The friend that you have fought with
or argued with a bunch,
or the friend that everything has just been kind of or argued with a bunch or the friend that
everything has just been
kind of cool and copacetic
my best friends I've fought
you said cool Rory
nah
I don't know
the argument I do learn a lot
we can argue
and we can
you know what I'm saying
but it's like
if we never got physical
that to me that says
we both know each other so well
that nothing will drive us
to a physical point
the people I know best
we've at least at some point tussled maybe not like punching each other in the face but tussled
i feel like my friends that i never got physical with we definitely have a different relation like
we know each other well joe you were saying physical or just like altercate verbal altercations
i'm down for you i'm down for both like i'm from the school of if you my friend we will still be
friends no matter what
absolutely
so we can physically fight
verbal for sure
I'd much rather have
the friends that I've had
verbal arguments
we can verbally fight
because
we agreed on everything
like
that's crazy
I've never done something fucked up
you've never done something
like there's nothing
that we ever disagreed on
plus your best friends
know how to just say some shit
that they know
is going to piss you off
and they're going to do it
on purpose to piss you off and at some point you might fight.
I don't know.
Did y'all care about Ray J's hat?
No, but Ray J does.
He kept moving it.
You know what?
I do care about it.
Do you?
Yeah.
I thought it was the perfect way to show how that show is put together.
And I know that was killing the production team.
Absolutely.
I know in the editing room, they was like, Jesus Christ.
They had to have been like, all right, let's just make a moment.
This will go viral.
Nah, I really hope that somebody noticed it.
They did.
I don't know that.
They did.
I really hope that somebody noticed it.
They did.
I don't know that.
They did.
If I tell you all of the things that I've... If I tell you all the things Sin and I noticed
while we watched Love & Hip Hop,
I can't say that they knew that.
The production team noticed.
It's just that what can they do about it?
Did they know when Yandy was on the phone
but the wire wasn't in it?
Yeah.
They knew that too, right?
Yeah.
Oh, you think they just know everything?
Yes.
Oh, you a fucking...
Because I'm going to tell you why.
I'm going to tell you for the same reason Rory just said.
They're hoping that some of those things
catch on social media and that people run with it.
I think the Ray J thing was a happy accident.
Yeah.
The editor was like, yo, come here.
This is nuts.
We've shot this scene 15 times and he kept changing his hat.
What do you want to use?
And then they were like, listen, Twitter's going to go nuts.
They're going to love it. They're going to eat it up.
It'll be a gift. Ray J's hat will be trending.
I could see that happening to somebody else
who wears hats.
On Love & Hip Hop? Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, definitely. 100%.
1,000%. I didn't want to
get into it. 1,000%
for sure.
It's happening.
Oh, wait.
Where's my phone since we're talking about Love & Hip Hop?
Call Safari again.
Love & Hip Hop has had some moments like that.
What's Stevie J's baby mother's boyfriend that was like the rapper that came off the plane in Atlanta?
Either way, he was sitting there at the reunion.
The park's stupid.
Either way, he was at the reunion sitting in the back with his phone.
You could see all his apps on his phone.
And he was pretending to be on it saying like, yeah, let's lock the deal down.
Oh, that sounds like more money for me.
I was like, yo, this show is nuts.
Did you guys hear the new Safari?
Joe, the only time I hear the new Safari is when you play the new Safari. How did you guys hear the new safari i told the only time i heard the new safari
i'm asking you when you play the news how about you guys i know i didn't even say von did you
even though you do a podcast you're not up on everything current right now you're not up on
on what's not running yeah like you ain't running for the new part that didn't come across the new
music not your vibe no but i'm sure you're gonna enlighten us with the new saf thing. Not your vibe? No. Well, I don't know. I'm sure you're going to enlighten us with the new Safari.
I don't know if you're ready to be enlightened, my G.
Okay.
You right.
I think I'm going to just have to give you a snippet of the new fire.
Okay.
What is it called?
What is this?
He don't even know.
Yes, I do.
It's called What the Bumba Claught.
I'm sorry.
What was that?
Okay.
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Summertime
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Yeah I see where he going
It is the summertime
To the islands
Yeah I see where he going
Let's go to the islands
Yeah
You ain't got my money
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Think you could come for me
What a bumblegum
My bitches ain't pretty
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That's to you Dykeman What a bumblegum You ain't got my's to you, Dykeman
Don't stare at me during this
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I don't believe it. I don't think I've ever heard someone
Bonnie Marlowe
and Big Con
in the same bar in my life.
Now I'm complaining about the gunshots.
That is two total different sides of the spectrum.
I hate when you play niggas your new shit
and they don't catch the vibe.
No.
That's your new shit?
Yeah, no, I didn't catch that.
No, no, that's the Farzman shit.
You was a writer?
No, no, no.
I have nothing to do with that.
You got an eight on that?
No. Oh. No. Adlib? Got an odd number. That was a writer? No, no, no. I have nothing to do with that. You got an eight on that? No.
Oh.
No.
Ad-lib?
Got an odd number.
That's a big thing.
Joe got a seven on that.
Woody Bamba Clot.
All right, Dame, text me back.
Joe with a Jamaican accent.
I'm calling.
Woody Bamba Clot.
Woody Bamba Clot.
Woody Bamba.
Dame, this is Joe Budden from the Joe Budden Podcast.
How are you, sir?
Joe's good, Joe.
You're enjoying, you're in L.A., I'm assuming, yes?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I'm in L.A. playing with my daughter.
Just getting ready to buy some, what do you want?
What do you want?
Dame, I just need clarity from you.
What exactly is a culture vulture, and why is Leo a one?
Let me clear my throat on that one.
Pause.
A culture vulture is someone that exploits the culture that he's not a part of, doesn't benefit the culture, and takes care of his culture and has no respect for the culture he's exploiting.
And that's exactly why Lior is one because he's been making money off of our culture he is not part of it and he's been exploiting it never helping teaching or anything
doing what's in the best interest of his pocket over the culture and to add insult to injury he
is not accepted in his own culture he cannot get no money in his own culture so he comes to ours
acts like a big cat
pretends we need him when we don't and then if and if someone even asks him a question he asks
in tight he acts entitled like he did on our platform and then he pretends he owns something
that he doesn't dame and disrespect and try to erase which they always do okay hold on baby hold
this hold it up and and they always try to erase our history
and act like the people that were really fighting for us
never existed.
And I think he flagrantly displayed that in public
just because he's so used to it.
So he's a perfect example.
As a matter of fact, I coined the term because of him.
And he's also made it,
Culture Vulture's also making it where a lot of history
doesn't get made just because for their own personal benefit. So there's a lot of history that he's also made it culture vultures also make it where a lot of history doesn't get made just because for their own personal benefit so there's a lot of do you think that leo because
of him do you think that leo cohen has not contributed to hip-hop at all what i think
he's done is exploited it and i don't think he's of it and that's all i'm addressing i don't care
what he's done for it yeah but when you say he's not of it i'm not saying i'm not saying that it
discredits anything he's done but just because someone's done good for hip-hop if he's done for it yeah but when you say he's not of it i'm not saying i'm not saying that it discredits anything he's done but just because someone's done good for hip-hop if he's a child
molester he's still a child molester so all the good doesn't all all the molesting negates every
bit of good that you do if you hurt the people especially my people and you make it where let
me ask you a question don't you think it's a little foul that todd moskowitz and j-o week joey
and julie all Cole have jobs over
got girls like Shari, Brian
all the black girls in the industry
have to work for all of these white people that don't know
nothing about music?
That's what he's done. He's
killed our nepotism. He's used his
nepotism. Todd Moskowitz
can't even dance. He's a lawyer.
How does he get a job over
someone from our culture?
Why does Shari have to work for Todd Moskowitz or Julie Greenwald?
Or why does Tina Davis not why does Tina Davis have to isn't running one of these one of these companies?
I don't understand that because he's the one that's put all these people in business to further control our culture.
Why is something called urban music run by anybody
white or black music how could it be run by someone that's not black what is that for our
culture bro oh you stumped me it's very fair you you you you stumped me a bit dear dame but i mean
i guess i don't really hold it against the white people it's not not a white thing. It's a non-culture thing. There are
people of this culture that deserve it.
Like, I like the little young kid, Ezra.
You know, I'm not saying just people that don't
care about the culture. Leo don't listen to no rap music.
Okay.
He don't even listen to music, and he never did.
Did he ever teach anybody how to take care of themselves?
You know, instead he got mad at the fact
that we figured out a way to make other money off
our ancillary and then figured out a way to get it so then he invented the 360 he's cancer for the
culture and then what he what does he do when somebody that's good for the culture wants to
come around he's going to blackball them or make it where they don't exist so that means he's
interfering with my relationship wherever he's at whether it's um um who's he blackballing oh no
he's blackballing you well he just now
said i'm blackballing meaning that if he's working for an institution that he doesn't own
he's not going to acknowledge any any business that i got to do over there and it's not his to
do that and he just made that very very that's torturous interference like if i really feel
like it i could put some money on his head and i've been thinking about doing it because he's
already messed up so much but he's been so flagrant. You understand what I'm saying? Like he's been so brazen. He's so
disrespectful. Every time I yelled at him, it wasn't for me. It was for y'all. Because he never
talked to me like that. He would never fix his mouth to speak like that to me, to talk down on
me or to tell me you didn't hear me talking. He would never even think about doing that. And he's not smarter than
none of us. That's what's funny.
He swears he's smart.
So I would love to publicly have a conversation
with him so he could display his intellect.
Can I organize?
And here's another thing. I want to make this
real clear what I don't really like.
What I don't like that YouTube is doing
is when there's a beef lyrically between
one of us youtube is
paying an artist to respond and i personally know that and now now that i know behind it it makes
sense so now now now youtube is cashing in on rap beef and they're paying people to respond
what type shit is that now what happens if somebody gets hurt wow and then and now i'm
no now i'm like it it must be Lior.
Because that's what they've been doing. Whenever we got
a beef with each other, they actually
and that's what they do. They make it where we have a
beef with each other so they can profit.
So when they ask him a question about
Rockefeller, he starts to call other people's names
out, not him. So we can fight each other.
That's not happening, bro. I'm never
fighting a rapper and nobody with my color of skin
or from my culture. I i want to smoke with leo i want the ceo smoke so we can see how they
do it in business i'm not a rapper damn i i'll be honest i'm gonna try to organize the smoke for you
please do get the smoke bro i i am and then you and then what you really want to do is ask him
why he's really mad. All right.
Shit, I'm with it.
I'm going to set it up, Dane.
I am. Like, he profits.
They profit off of rap beef all the time.
Let's do a YouTube event where me and Leo speak.
Let them profit off.
Why they don't profit off of intellectual beef then?
Pause.
Yeah, no, I'm all for intellectual beef.
So when a man calls another man out on a CEO boss level level then that's when they start saying they don't they don't exist but when two artists are getting ready to get at each other's
neck violently physically in front of the whole culture they actually give them money to do it
you need to ask him about that at youtube when you ask him that's why he's terrible for the
culture because he profits off of our dysfunction that's the problem bro wow all right i i'm i am
gonna try and set it up damn i'm gonna hit you when I'm in LA
I love you man
him Todd Moskowitz
Joey any one
of them Julie Greenwald any
one of them I'll talk to
any one of them publicly
any one of them just for us
I'll do it for the culture cause none of them
are smarter than us I don't know how they have
those positions over us.
I hate that, man.
I'm disgusted with that. That's why I left the business
in the first place.
Dame, I love you, man.
I love you. I love you too, bro.
You saw what happened. You was there.
I was there. I'm trying to be quiet.
I'm trying to just shut up, man.
Love, I'm going to hit you when I'm in L.A., man Love I'm gonna hit you I'm gonna hit you
When I'm in LA dang
I gotta go
Alright bro
What
Yo pull up when you're in LA man
100
100%
Alright bro
Alright man later
Shit
Well
No drop button Why don't I ever think To do the little drop while people are talking because that's like a thing right
but it's annoying
it is annoying
it's a thing but it's not the thing
Dame is serious
but he's been saying it for years
this isn't a
he just heard that
he just he just wants to sit down and have a conversation and i understand why people don't
want to have a conversation with dame i understand i know why they don't want to have a conversation
with him and it's i'll say dame and leo are two of the brightest men that i know
i will say that so if they were to have a conversation,
I would be glued to my seat.
Absolutely.
Yeah, but I don't,
I feel like Leo doesn't.
And Leo would have that conversation.
I don't think he would.
I don't think so.
No, he wouldn't have it.
He won't.
I'm saying under the right circumstance,
I think he would have it.
I think today if you asked him,
he would say for what?
Yeah. Just to do it? No, I don't think he does anything just to do it but i don't think he's afraid of it i think he's like i think kevin lowes won't sit in front of me and have a conversation
i think it's a few niggas that's afraid to sit in front of me and have a conversation
i believe leo is afraid to sit in front of d. Okay. I believe that for a number of reasons.
No, I got it.
I got it.
But it needs to happen.
Yeah.
Let me tell you,
nigga, something.
I would pay top dollar.
Yeah?
Oh, yeah.
I know.
I'll get a subscription.
I'd give my debit card number,
the whole thing,
to watch that.
I think we get a lot from that.
I think we gain a lot of information.
We gain a lot of knowledge
on the music business
and business in general.
Would Dane be able
to have that conversation?
Absolutely.
Without yelling and screaming?
Without yelling and screaming,
no,
because that's how Dane talks.
But see,
the thing,
when you know Dane,
he's not yelling at you.
See that,
and that's not fair
because that's how I felt
about the Leroy interview.
Like,
if you know Leroy,
watching his responses, it wasn't like, yo, I don't know him fuck that nigga it was like i just don't know who he is today no he didn't say today though yeah he didn't when he
was trying to act like he didn't know who dame was at all but he he went further into it though
no yeah i get it but i i'm just saying that conversation needs to happen because i feel
like there's a lot to take away from that conversation.
A lot of people would learn a lot of things from that conversation.
Yeah.
Oh,
that's a great segue.
Speaking of taking away things,
did we see 50 cent in the strip club?
I saw the headline.
I didn't see the actual video.
Well,
he said the lady,
the young lady was,
had a little attitude.
Rather rude.
Yeah.
And I,
I too,
I too have been in the strip club when you bump into the rather rude stripper.
Yeah.
Not my thing.
Until she has something going on at home.
Sorry, sis.
That's definitely a service business.
I'd like for you to be somewhat nice.
If I'm showering you with thousands upon thousands of dollars, I would at least like a smile.
A little bit of customer service would be really, really awesome, queen.
Yeah.
It's appreciated.
There's not too many things worse than the entitled stripper or bartender.
Right.
Right.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I agree.
Waitress might be on that same.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm going to give a round of applause to 50.
Yeah, 50.
Because that's a move I'm sure niggas have wanted to do for a long time,
where you throw some money and then she was kind of trash with it.
You wanted to take it back.
You did.
But 50 could get away with that because what is the strip going to say?
He's a bum-ass nigga?
Yeah.
He ain't got, he broke?
No, he's not.
He's just not doing it.
He's just not fucking with you.
He's not broke.
Yeah, he's just not fucking with you.
Yeah, that's your bad, man.
Okay, let's
see what else is that nice deep dive on 50 taking his money back uh let's see what else is happening
important in the universe all right so let me tell all the barbs out there let me tell all the barbs
out there that i did reach out to try to secure a nikki minj interview before this album dropped. I had questions.
Okay.
Something tells me she wasn't running to do an interview with you.
She said no.
Okay.
Kind of figured she would, but I'm responsible for the effort.
So I made the effort, right?
Mm-hmm.
It's only confusing to me for one reason.
You ready? Yeah, I'm ready. You ready?
Yeah, I'm ready.
You ready?
I love Nicki.
Let me just say that now.
Do you love Black Ink?
No.
Do you love Black Ink Chicago?
I love that black tattoo artists are doing their thing.
Did you see... More.
I don't have time for your bullshit.
Did you see last week's Black Ink Chicago?
No. Nicki Minaj you see last week's Black in Chicago? No.
Nicki Minaj was on last week's Black in Chicago.
Okay.
She was getting a tattoo.
How'd it come out?
It just said Barbie.
It was nice.
It was nice.
It was a nice tattoo.
She was getting a tattoo.
It said Barbie and Chun-Li played for 10 minutes.
Nice.
Strategic marketing.
Okay.
What are Black Ink Chicago's ratings?
Because I don't watch the show.
Well, Nikki tweeted today.
No, she Instagrammed.
She told us how many viewers.
She Instagrammed today.
She didn't tweet the ratings.
Oh, my God.
No, she didn't.
No, she didn't.
No, you're lying to me.
No, she didn't. No, she did not. Nikki did not tweet ratings. Oh my God. No, she didn't. No, she didn't. No, she didn't.
No, she did not.
Nicki did not tweet ratings.
I'm going to read to you
today's
She did not tweet ratings.
post from
You will stop lying
Nicki Minaj.
It says
Oh, don't you
Oh, shit.
She made the cover
the black and crew.
Look.
Oh, shit.
Look at the cover of the Black Ink Crew. Look. Oh, shit. Look at the cover.
A promo tonight.
No, here's the one where the ratings came back.
Oh, here it is.
Nicki Minaj boosts Black Ink Crew ratings to record setting high.
I'm sure.
You ready for the caption?
I'm going to read it to you anyway
even if you're not ready it's coming
you ready
nah I need a little louder than that
alright this says
a million additional
people tuned in
highest rating in two years
yikes
who's calling me from Franklin New Jersey
get out of here
oh hey Ryanyan henry tattoo please
make the check payable to onika tanya mirage thank you sir mad emojis thanks for tuning in y'all
i don't really get a coin for this it just means you're ready for queen
on wednesday morning i'll do a special post.
Why do we have to ask?
I don't want to see that.
It's right here.
What is more special than that post?
It was posted 23 hours ago.
What would be more special than that post?
What was it?
What was the post?
You got it?
No.
I don't know.
Who is advising
this move?
Listen.
These moves
that Nikki is making.
I'm trying to figure out
if their goal was
to...
They tried to find a show
that doesn't have
the highest ratings
to show more ratings?
Because if she went on
an already highly rated show,
I'm really trying to figure out
what they were thinking
when they were doing this one. You know what? Okay, listen. I'm not mad to figure out what they were thinking when they were doing this one.
You know what?
Okay, listen.
I'm not mad at her.
Yes, you are.
No, no, listen.
Yes, you are mad.
I'm not mad at her going on Black Ink.
You are mad at it.
No, no, listen.
I'm not mad at it because if Black Ink is black owned and she's giving them that look,
I salute that.
It's owned by VH1.
Now, all of it.
But no, no.
All of this stuff is owned by Viacom.
Yo, black people got to stop making every black thing a good look.
No, no, no.
All of it's not a good look.
If you're supporting a black business, I'm not mad at that.
Oh, you're talking about the business.
I'm talking about the show.
No, no, no.
I'm just talking about because that's the real, they really have a tattoo.
They really do tattoos, like the black ink here in Harlem.
Yeah, which are great.
Right.
So if Jay-Z went and got a tattoo of black ink in Harlem, he's shining that light on
them, and now they're fucking booked out with business.
I'm not mad at that.
I'm just mad at
the posts all of that
like don't that's what it seems
don't do yeah like come but you know
this is the era of posting stats
Nikki doesn't have to post stats
she posts a lot of stats it's not even really the era
of posting stats I agree I agree why is she doing it
it is unfortunately it is
absolutely no it's Nikki's
she's the one that does it. But it's not just her.
Nah, they all do it.
It's not just her.
Artists?
Oh, shit.
Everyone does it.
Ish is calling me. Holy shit.
Everyone does it.
Let me answer Ish.
Hello.
Yo.
Hi, this is Joe Budden from the Joe Budden Podcast.
How are you, Joe Budden?
This is Antoine. How are you? I bud this is antoine how are you i'm well antoine uh your your street name
is ish is that correct what can i do for you sir i was telling maul and rory that friday night i
was looking for you to go get into some ratchet fuck fun shit with my friends but you
were busy because you purchased a singular
ticket to the Beyonce concert
and you went
and you were there
singing single ladies
by yourself
we was on your side I don't know what y'all
talking about so I was
calling you cause Maul couldn't understand
why you were at a Beyonce
concert by yourself.
So, I was telling Maul
that you said... Maul has known me
for a pretty long
time, and I'm sure that Maul
does not believe you in telling
him that I was at a Beyonce concert
by myself. Alright,
but that's why I wanted to get you on the phone, because
were you there, or do you have an alibi?
I was at the show
with Beyonce and Jay-Z
and I was not there by myself.
Yo, niggas will throw in the Jay-Z.
It's a major factor.
We kept talking about it.
Get the fuck out of here.
You were not there to see Jay-Z.
You danced to Single Ladies.
Nigga, don't try it.
That's what I did.
All right, all right.
That's what I did.
All right, now, I'm asking.
Did you sit down at every Beyoncé record, or did Deja Vu do it a little bit?
Come on.
Bruh.
I'll get the fuck off.
I'm just asking.
I just say yes or no, and then I'm done.
No, nigga.
I was watching.
I'm a Jay-Z fan.
I've never been to a Beyonce show in my life.
But if I were to go to a Beyonce show, Beyonce has decent music.
But did you go with some of your friends that enjoyed Reasonable Down and shit?
Or just you?
What?
Did you go with some other people who enjoy whole music?
Or did you just go with just you?
To the show on Friday?
Yeah.
I went with somebody.
Who did you talk to?
Yo, bro, what's wrong with you?
You all right?
I'm asking it.
I don't even know why you called him back.
He was a fucking dodo.
I don't even know why
you called this nigga back, man.
Yeah, he called back because he's a friend of mine, and I called.
And it might have been something urgent and important, but of course it's not.
All right, that's all.
A Jay-Z concert.
Jay was performing.
That's a part of the show.
He went with a...
Jay-Z's not a part...
Jay-Z's not 50% of the show?
He went to a Jay-Z fan...
I don't know.
I never saw the show.
What would your guest be, you asshole?
If it's a Jay-Z and Beyonce concert,
do you think Beyonce did 80% of the performance?
She did 80% of the performing on their joint album.
So, yeah, I would think that.
They did one song from the album.
So y'all are proving my point.
No, he did Man O'Rourke'all are proving my point no all right fine
y'all trying to get me in trouble and with Roc Nation so I just want to ask
some questions it's my bad my bad yo can we have you on the podcast soon to talk
about real estate and and living in New York
Living in New York.
And really saying what?
And living in New York.
Yo, this nigga.
Something's wrong with you, bro.
For real.
Oh, man.
Forget it. Yo, bye, man.
Get off my phone.
Yo, bye, man.
Goodbye, Antoine.
Yo.
Oh, you lost this one, man.
I want to say Jay was performing.
It's like.
You think Jay did two songs?
No, this is what I think.
I think that niggas that's my age,
Ish age, your age,
we have an affinity for Hov.
So we're going to go watch Hov
if Hov is doing 20 minutes
in the middle of a three-hour Beyonce set.
So I want Ish to admit
to going to see the 20-minute Hov set
in the midst of the three-hour Beyonce set,
even if it's not true.
Even if it's not true. Even if it's not true.
So you just have to admit to it.
Yeah.
Even if it's not true at all.
Yes.
Yes.
All right.
Well, you was there for an hour.
More shit about concerts,
because the group chat informed me
that Music Soulchild's concert didn't go too well.
Did you guys see that?
Even though y'all are in the group chat?
No?
Yeah, music sounded like...
Like not music.
Not a soul.
It did not sound like music.
Wait, I got it.
I have it here.
I can't believe Fab answered the phone.
That was crazy.
I'd have never answered the phone.
I do like the line of...
Fab, game, and then ish. I think that was a good balance. Yeah, word. I'd have never answered the phone I do like the line of A bad game
And then an ish
I think that was a good balance
Yeah it worked
Smoking that
I don't know what y'all talking about
No that's not real
He don't have an earpiece in
There's no way
That's not real
It's real
That's music
Soul child
That's not music
Or soul
Or child that's music soul child it's not music or soul oh man this is a great song too
when it's not a child so when it's done classic correctly maybe the monitors are
bad maybe everything was walking out yeah they're leaving would you stay
would you stay after you paid your hard-earned money
to hear music crooned that way?
I would fight.
I would pop on somebody.
I'd pay a ticket to see somebody sing
and they sound like that.
My fucking money back.
Let's see Ray J's head.
We ain't talking about Madden with their Kaepernick blunder
that they fixed.
They did fix it before we killed them.
No, we can still kill them. No, we're going to kill them.
No, we're going to kill them.
Bum-ass response.
Yeah, they felt the storm coming.
That's why they was like, let's get ahead of this thing.
Kat, do you want to rap?
Yeah.
They had to fix that quick.
They knew what was going to happen.
That was the most bum-ass apology.
We didn't know if we had clearance.
Get the fuck out of here.
Oh, yeah?
EA? EA doesn't know that they have clearance for something.
They don't have lawyers.
Yeah, I know.
The fuck out of here.
Yeah, I didn't believe it at all.
The tell was that last year they had Kaepernick in the game
and still blocked him out of the lyrics of the song.
Wow.
It's over for you.
And I don't know, dude.
Keys, they really analyzed the Big Sean lyrics, too.
That's what...
I can just picture a meeting of just re-listening
to a Big Sean record.
I don't know if we should
put this one in there, guys.
Yeah.
I like Sean's response.
I don't know how y'all
still support the NFL, man.
I don't get it.
Oh, because of my team
drafted Saquon.
I don't get it.
What the fuck did you
tell my nigga?
I don't get it.
That NFL shit is bogus.
I'm watching Saquon Barkley, buddy.
Sorry. You're going to be ruled for Saquon Barkley, buddy. Sorry.
You're going to be rude for Saquon to get out of here in two years.
Was he disappointed?
Yeah, Giants fans kill me.
All New York sports fans kill me with that.
Oh, we drafted it two years from now.
Yeah, but the kid's just not ready for the big lights.
He's not ready.
Like, get him out of here.
The kid's not ready for the big lights.
Throw the season.
Yeah, everybody can't.
They love to say everybody can't play in New York.
New York's not for everybody. Tank. Yeah, season. Yeah, everybody can't. They love to say everybody can't play in New York. New York's not for everybody.
Yeah, like, yo, tank.
Draft.
Maul, are you still boycotting the NFL even though they're trying to fix the protesting rule?
I'm boycotting them until they fix everything.
Because they are attempting to fix it.
They haven't fixed anything.
Or are they playing both sides?
Dak Prescott is a fucking clown.
He is a clown.
But he's bitter.
I think they are trying to just stave off the storm.
I don't think they're changing anything.
Yeah, they're not fixing that.
Listen, man, the NFL is just...
It's to save face for every person that likes the NFL.
Yeah.
Right.
They know that they're losing the fan base.
So they can plug, their PR team can plug to whatever people are on this side,
where they get their news, and on the other side,
and they just feed both stories.
And then everyone's like, well, I guess they try and let's support it.
All of that is great, but the rules will change.
So we won't have to assume.
And the rule change is teams are allowed to stay in the locker room.
And if you come out, whatever the fuck the rule changes,
but there is a rule change.
So I, and let me just say, I'm agreeing with y'all.
I think they acknowledge the shit storm, and I think that they are reacting to it.
Finally.
Finally.
If they make the rule to stay in the locker room, I'm still not supportive.
First of all, they're not replying to the shit because that's not what Cap was ever doing to begin with.
Right.
They changed their own narrative, and the NFL is part of that.
They're still sticking on something that had nothing to do with what Colin Kaepernick was doing.
So, yes, they're still part of the problem.
Everyone could kneel and they'd be fine with it.
That's still not part of what the issue that Kaep was bringing up.
So they're still part of the problem.
When there's so many easy solutions, I don't understand why they're still undecided about what to do.
Why don't you give the players a platform?
Why don't you put public service announcements during the games?
Why don't you donate some money?
There's very simple solutions.
They donated money.
Did they?
Yeah.
They should publicize that a little more.
They did.
It was a big deal.
Yo, this episode came full circle with Joe being industry.
Sides with Leo.
Sides with the NFL.
I miss woke, I hate Kanye West Joe.
What happened to that guy?
Like, this is crazy.
Hardy, har, har, har.
Damn, you should Known it when he
The hat
Yeah
That's true
The hat man
Used to be a Yankee fitted
Now it's a fedora
It used to be
I'm too old for fitteds now
I'm not wearing fitteds anymore
Oh my god
Yeah right
I'm telling you
Can't wait to put you
No you're not
Saquon Barkley edition
Giants fitted on
He's got it right there
Yeah see
There you go
Your Saquon Barkley special
wait let me tell you
does it have his number
on the side
wait don't say special
nigga
I don't have a special
that's you with special fitted
no I've never seen that one
no what is this one
you keep a special fitted
this ain't even blue
it's black
right
no no no
it's blue
let me tell you how sick I am
I fucking
I wore this fedora hat
I packed this hat
and I packed the scully.
Options.
You ain't know
what you was ready for.
All types of weather.
I feel,
I'm happy
of the fitter back.
Y'all niggas been
doing a lot of laughing
at me today.
No.
With you.
They all laugh at me
every day
and I just don't really know.
Yeah,
every day.
What's up with Brittany Renner?
What's up with her?
The IG stars are starting to switch sides.
Yeah, but this one is intriguing to me.
This one I'm invested in.
You've seen the girl, what's her name, Nikki, that sings and plays the guitar.
On Black Ink?
The white chick?
Yeah, she released the nudes.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, when it comes down.
Wait, tell me about that because I was trying to talk about it with Sin, but then I couldn't really talk about it with Sin.
Oh, she's Snapchatting?
She's Snapchatting the news. You couldn't bring
up her shoes with that, right?
Look at those shoes.
She was barefoot.
No, you know what's funny? I gotta stop
trying to be like, I try to be sharing
the group chat shit with my girl sometimes
and it don't work out.
First of all, that's flagrant.
That's man code.
No, but some of the fun stuff you got to share to make it seem like you're not like your friends.
No, because then your girl going to ask, well, why y'all laughing at that?
Why y'all find that funny?
Listen, y'all sent that Nikki Heaton shit through, and I started busting laughing.
I just panned the phone to her thinking she would start laughing.
Hell no.
She didn't laugh.
Oh, she's a naked woman, nigga.
She's got to stop talking to you now.
Her brain don't register that we laughing at that.
She's a naked woman.
Why girls don't think that we laugh at bitches?
They think we just get turned on.
No, we're laughing at somebody.
Why is Nikki even doing that?
Yo, it's the times of time.
Now, mind you, Parks did say that she should do that like five years ago.
Everyone's been saying that.
The moment I heard a note come out, I said, all right, you should just leak your news.
Just show us the boobs.
It's okay.
Show us the boobs.
The boobies.
And we're not objectifying.
I just didn't think her music was good.
I didn't think her music was good.
This is the exact definition of objectifying.
This is the epitome of objectifying.
But when you say you're not afterwards, it kind of clears it up.
It's okay, yeah.
It clears it up a little bit.
Yeah, but she should have did it like a few years ago.
Like now, that wasn't even like.
Yeah, because I'm going to keep it real.
It was like I looked at it and then I was kind of like.
You never went back to it.
You didn't go back to it.
I didn't double back to it.
You didn't save it for the later on alone time.
Definitely not alone time.
Yeah, nah, nah, nah.
Niggas went right on about their day. Right on. That's Definitely not alone time. Nah, nah, nah. Niggas went right on
about their day.
Right on.
I'm talking about me.
That's got to hurt though.
That didn't stop anything.
That didn't even give you
the fan pic pause.
Yeah, it was kind of like,
nah, whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
Damn, that's fucked up.
That's got to be shitty
when a chick feel like
she sent you to fire nude
and you just like
say thank you.
Just going about the day.
Roy. Thank you. That going about the day. Roy.
Thank you.
That was wild.
I heard him.
No.
No, you ain't enough of him, bro.
But we wasn't supposed to be talking about it.
No, I wanted to get back to Brittany.
Did we talk about it last week with her little porn thing that she.
No, we did not.
That she's not really doing.
No, we didn't talk.
We got to talk.
You don't think they're doing it?
No, I never thought. Well, the people that don't know,
Brittany Renner, who's at Instagram, are they fitness chicks now?
Just if they wear fitness clothes?
Yeah.
All right.
She wears a lot of dry fit.
She wears a lot of dry fit.
She does squats in the videos.
Maul wears dry fit.
Don't do that.
I've never seen him squat in a video, though, thankfully.
You will never see that either, by the way.
You will never see me squat.
You wouldn't squat in a video, though, thankfully. You will never see that either, by the way. You wouldn't squat in a video? No.
I don't squat outside of a video in life.
I'm pausing myself. I'm just trying
to figure out more on Instagram
doing fitness and traffic.
Nah, bro. I'm cool. Leg day with more?
That'd be the funniest Instagram
page. More legs is trash.
Look at more legs.
Legs ain't trash. Wait, your legs is nice.
Yo, hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
See, hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Wait.
Don't touch me, nigga.
Don't touch me.
Don't touch me.
Mo, you are such a loser.
Don't touch me.
Why do you have nice legs, you bum ass nigga?
Don't touch me, though.
You fucking bum bitch ass nigga with nice legs.
Nigga ain't ran nowhere.
Nigga got a definition in his little thigh.
Don't touch me though.
Get the fuck out of here.
Don't touch me though.
Whatever you do, don't touch me.
This nigga put cocoa butter on his knees.
Hydrated.
Why your legs hydrated?
Don't touch me.
Lathered ass legs.
Like, yo, how much time you spend lathering your legs
after shower, my nigga?
Whatever, man.
This nigga ain't got a bump or a bruise nowhere on his leg.
Whatever, man.
This bitch is me rubbing his leg.
Whatever, dog. Get your laughs leg. Whatever, man. Bitch is me rubbing his leg. Whatever, dog.
Get your laughs out.
It's funny.
I'm not laughing.
Yo, Maul definitely
got a few full body
massages.
Fuck that.
Like, yo,
now the legs.
Nah, yo, the legs.
Maul said lower.
Nah, yo, the legs.
Nah, yes.
Lower.
Lower.
Lower.
Lower. Nah, yo, don't skip the legs. Nah, yes. Lower. Nah, yo.
Don't skip the legs.
Whatever, man.
You know what I mean?
Whatever.
Oh, man.
Okay, I don't even remember.
Slipped into something more comfortable.
I don't even remember where we were going.
Brittany Renner.
Oh, Brittany Renner.
Brittany Renner.
Listen, this is especially sad for me to see because, you know, some of us that have been
on some of these DSPs, some of these social media sites for like 10 years.
Brittany Renner was never on a DSP.
Yes, she was.
Yes, she was.
I think she got a single.
But what I'm saying is some of us, we're approaching 2019
where some of us have been around for like that 9, 10-year gap, right?
And it's been the same apartment in every video.
I've been looking at that dirty mirror
for ten years. I ain't gonna lie. It's a bunch
of you fine bitches that only got one
little nice corner to take some
pictures.
If the cord stops right there.
They try to fool you with different flowers.
They'll fool me because I scroll 52 weeks.
That bitch be in front of the same
damn wall.
Yeah.
Same outlets, same little hallway.
Bitch, move.
Right.
Take a pic in the park.
Like, go outside.
Your friend has to have a home.
Yeah, god damn it.
Go to the hotel.
You got to change up to get some ambience something.
Now, Brittany Renner, so nine, 10 years, right?
So we've seen
The evolution of some people
Like some people
Have evoluted
Yeah
I don't even know
That's a word
It's not
It's not
But we've seen
Over the years
Niggas attempt to evolute
Yeah
I remember Brittany Renner
When she was
Hi Brittany
If you're listening
She's not listening
But yes
Yeah but every time
We talk about somebody I they get sent the clip.
I was going to say, I used to think a lot of people didn't listen to this podcast.
They're all listening.
Every last one of them.
Somebody that knows them is listening.
Someone is sending them the tape.
Yeah, they'll send it.
Yeah, I used to say we do a million a week, but I think we do a lot more than a million a week.
Well, if you add up the impressions and all that shit.
I think we're closer to like 1.3, 1.5 a week.
But Brittany Minner.
So I remember Brittany when she was dating the boyfriend guy.
They both played soccer.
They both made really cute soccer vids.
Y'all remember that?
Y'all remember?
Mm-hmm.
That's when she had a private account.
She wouldn't follow any dudes.
Yeah, everybody wanted Brittany Renner, man.
She was awesome.
She showed her personality.
Then she broke up with the boyfriend, and she was just the fine soccer girl who was just kicking the ball all around in places.
Cool.
Oh, my God.
I haven't seen her do a goalie kick in 10 years.
That's what I'm saying.
Then she did the fitness soccer thing.
And I was like, okay, that's new.
Little Rosa Costa vibes.
She's doing the fitness soccer.
Then it went to the sexy lingerie fitness model
soccer porn girl.
Which was fun.
Yeah, once you get fit.
She was fit.
In the lingerie.
Yeah,
because you,
fit in lingerie,
I'm not mad.
So now,
so now,
Tiana Trump is involved.
And workout gear is expensive.
It's hard to roll with.
Tiana Trump got involved.
And now,
now Tiana Trump is involved.
No,
you skipped,
you skipped a big era.
Which one?
Which one?
She started doing skits and acting.
She was eating makeup.
Yeah.
Yeah, she went through a skit acting phase. Where was she trying to take us with that, though?
I wasn't.
No, I'm just trying to.
Where was she trying to take us?
Yeah, where was she?
You didn't see her vision?
No.
You know when Tom Cruise did the Vanilla Sky era and he kind of went left?
Maybe that was like her.
That was her Vanilla Sky.
That was like her artist.
That was her Vanilla Sky.
That was her little weird artsy thing.
That was her eyes wide shut.
Okay, I got you.
I think that was her era.
We was used to Mission Impossible.
And I was like, oh, I don't know where we're going, Tom.
Right.
So I think that was that.
Okay, got it.
And now we're in Scientology.
She's doing porn.
So she's doing Scientology porn?
No, I'm talking about Tom Cruise.
We're comparing her to Tom Cruise.
Scientology porn.
No, just say yes.
She's doing Scientology porn.
There's a few of them out there.
Okay.
It's a new field being created.
Okay.
I haven't seen the porn, though.
It was a joke.
It doesn't matter.
I don't think it's coming.
I thought they're going to put out some
makeup line.
They're trying to sell something.
They're trying to garner
attention for something.
I don't know what it is.
I haven't spoken to anybody.
I don't care enough about it.
I'm just interested
and I'm always interested
in seeing the evolution
or the de-evolution
of what it should have
a podcast.
I might listen to it.
Roy should do that podcast.
I would happily do that podcast.
No, you and Mo. Do what podcast? Britney listen to it Roy should do that podcast I would happily do that podcast No you and Mo
Do what podcast?
Britney Renner and Teyana Trump's podcast
Fuck let's do it
I can't wait to get that call
Alright let's do this
Some more shit
Matter of fact we can make it like a weekly thing
I don't want to be a guest
I want to be part of the podcast
I know I said last week
That we gonna get Michael Jordan
The fuck out of here
Did you see Michael Jordan's
Bum ass publicist response
To Donald Trump and the Michael Jordan And the LeB here. Did you see Michael Jordan's bum-ass publicist response to Donald Trump
and the LeBron James shit?
Yeah. Are you done with him, honestly?
Mike?
Yeah, I'm almost. He's still...
I didn't realize that Mike had so much money
invested into the private jail
system in America. I didn't realize that LeBron
James was the best basketball player of all time.
Yeah, me neither, Parks. I'm with you. But here we are.
Yeah, I'm with... Sorry, Mark. So I don me neither, Parks. I'm with you. But here we are. Yeah, I'm with, sorry, Maul.
Oh, but to be fair.
I'm not being fair.
Oh, you're not being fair, okay.
You want to talk about Kareem?
Trying to make up for the move.
Nah, Bill Russell.
I'm just, no.
I don't want to talk about Mike.
Mike has, he's,
but he's,
we have to be fair.
Mike has donated
a lot of money
to hospitals
and communities
and stuff like that.
Yeah, Mike ain't for us, man.
But, you know.
I know it pain niggas, but...
No, no, it does.
I mean, we've been talking about this for years.
Ain't nigga gonna wear them jeans
for that many years.
Yeah.
He ain't really fuss.
Those are the get out jeans.
I think it's still with bootcut jeans too.
You trust nigga to wear...
That's a beyonce.
You stepping in bootcut?
Any nigga wearing bootcut jeans to a concert
to listen on top of security... It's definitely wearing Bootcut jeans to a concert To look on top
Security
Security for sure
Has you on the list
Like follow him all night
He wore his bootcut best
His bootcut best
To the Beyonce concert
With a different color
Stitching at the bottom
Oh he thought that was swag
The yellow stitching
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
Yo wearing bootcut
To a concert
Is disgusting
Dancing in bootcut
Is nasty
Trust me Trust me I used to dance in bootcut No shit's a sway In Dancing in bootcut is nasty. Trust me.
I used to dance in bootcut.
I don't trust no nigga when bootcut.
You going left with them shits staying right?
Oh, the back of my jeans was ripped.
I used to walk on the bottom.
You remember the era when niggas were walking on the bottom of their jeans?
What was wrong with us?
Niggas was nasty.
Niggas was filthy.
Now I see why they didn't want to let us
in some of the clubs.
Like if a dude walked in,
I'm at the door
and a dude's stepping
on the back of his jeans.
Fam, go home, dude.
I don't think this is for you.
Go home, fam.
Fam, go home.
Like, go home.
Yeah.
I shouldn't have been
letting a lot of clubs.
Like, I was beefing at the time,
but they was right.
Yeah, looking back,
they was right.
I shouldn't have been there,
nigga, without a haircut,
trying to oversize fit.
Go home, nigga. Carpenter jeans. Yeah, just go home. Watch television. I shouldn't have been there, nigga. Without a haircut, trying to have an oversized fit. Go home, nigga.
Carpenter jeans.
Just go home.
Watch television.
What do you put in the loop?
This is like the 10th thing on your to-do list.
The loop, the loop.
Remember the loop?
I used to want the loop on all my jeans.
No, no, you had to have the loop on the jeans.
Wait, what?
If you went to school and you didn't have the loop,
they'd be like, yo, what's up with your jeans?
Yeah, yeah.
No, you're right.
Yo, today, right?
So now, I thought about this the other day.
Now, I'm buying all of these pants that have a stripe going down the the side of the pant but you want
that era but the stripe now is a very uh it's a slim it's decorated it's colorful it's they're
nice stripes out there now sure i was like yo the nigga that made Parasuco got to be ready to shoot this whole shit up.
You can't tell me he not ready to shoot everything up.
You good niggas got the nerve to be putting the stripes on the side of the pants and it's
dope now?
You know how many Parasuco pants I used to have?
Yeah, but it's-
That's different.
We know.
It's a different shirt.
I would be ready to shoot some shit up.
I think some Pacos.
Everything comes back.
What happened to all those clothes?
I'm not saying the fashion style.
I mean, like, literally and physically.
Is that, like, part of global warming?
How did they get rid of all that?
I don't know, but...
That was a lot of fabric.
Yeah, because y'all niggas made me get rid of my Maurice Malone jeans before I was ready.
Two more years.
I had saved up for mine.
Maurice Malone
Yeah my mom wasn't just
Buying them for me
The Mo jeans
And then they just
Wasn't cool no more
Like damn man
A lot of shit goes out quick man
But you can tell which brand
You know how much money
I paid for all of my
True religion jeans
They had a run though
It did
Some people still get away with them
Some years
Some years
No
Fam no
They look a little
A guy
Ish Yeah At the Beyonce concert I've seen some guys Only issues wearing Bootcut true religion jeans Right now Some years. Some years. No, no. Fam, no. A guy?
Ish. Yeah.
At the Beyonce concert.
I've seen some guys
get wasted truths.
Only Ish is wearing
bootcut True Religion jeans
right now.
I didn't say bootcut.
I just said truths.
No, I don't want to hear
what I'm wearing
in truths right now.
funny to me.
I was never a
Trustbrook is wearing
True Religion.
Yeah, I was definitely
doing truths
with the Christian
RDJ.
Oh, you was the
Christian RDJ.
You loved Christian RDJ.
I was nasty.
I might have been calling Christian like, yo, what you got new?
You loved the Von Dutch Christian RDJ.
I will say that.
I paid $900 for this team.
Way no more had a bunch of them Von Dutch hats.
Don't do that.
Only had two.
Don't do that.
Only had two.
You came back from LA.
You and BJ swearing y'all was fresh.
No, not Von Dutch hats.
Hell no.
No, we have to acknowledge I know like
the early 2000s
the baggy clothes
was bad
but that like
07 to 09
era
was super colorful
we was kinda
dressing like
rock stars
yeah the Ed Hardy
shit
Ed Hardy shit
that was a bad
Joe was an Ed Hardy
the clothes fit
but we still
looked nuts
that shit was sick
Joe was an Ed Hardy
hoe
they still wear that
shit over here
in Astoria
so Ella May
Ella May's new single you was an Ed Hardy hoe. They still wear that shit over here in Astoria. Joe was still wearing that shit. So Ella May's new single.
You was an Ed Hardy guy?
Yes.
Yeah, I was.
For sure.
Damn.
He had every Ed Hardy.
All the yellow ones, too.
I was the nigga buying the bright Ed Hardy shirts.
You must have looked nuts in the winter.
Especially.
Yo, I was looking at some pictures.
You might get a tan and get away with yellow, but I'm not seeing Joe and the Ed Hardy in December.
No, you're right.
You're right.
I was recently looking back at some of my old photos from throughout my whole life.
From whatspoppin.net.
And I realized.
Because that's where they were.
I don't like any of the pictures from my whole life.
My whole life. My whole life.
They all bad.
Yo, I went to every phase of my life,
and it was a bad judgment, decision, fashion.
I don't like none of them.
The Rockets hockey jersey, you like that?
Listen, even for you, I'm ready to retire that combo.
I feel bad for you now.
Rory, you never touched my knee before,
so today, now, don't
make today the day that you
touch my knee on the Houston,
on the Rockets. It was a tap.
I was here to support you.
Oh, man. Yeah, what are we
missing? We're missing Demi Lovato.
Yao Ming was really popular. We're missing Demi Lovato's
response to her
overdose.
What did she say?
The same thing white people always say.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to rehab to fight my exhaustion, and I won't do it again.
And I'm taking my recovery series.
In fairness, I think Chris Brown said that, too.
She blamed it on exhaustion?
She said it.
Let me read it for you.
Let me read it, because I do have it.
That ain't exhaustion, fam.
I've been exhausted before. You could definitely be exhausted from doing a lot of heroin.
She says, and I quote,
I have always been transparent about my journey with addiction.
That's not true.
Well, you know what?
Hold on because a lot of fans did jump on me just saying like,
she's been talking about that.
So it could be true.
I don't follow Demi Lovato like that.
See, no, no, stop.
And that's my
problem stop stop because active addiction and i'm not going to preach we too close to the end of
this podcast active addiction is active addiction so when you talk about i've been transparent with
my journey with addiction that's misleading and it's very different from i was snorting and and doing
all types of shit the night before that's not that's not somebody who is trying to recover
that's somebody who's doing the shits well that's still your journey of addiction though no yeah
sure i'm letting that ride i'm not i'm not doing that i'm not doing that there's people who there's
people who's getting high because they want to get high. And there's people who's actually trying to get help with it and stop because it's a real problem.
I'm not taking her words as that. No, I've always been transparent about my journey with addiction.
What I've learned is that this illness is not something that disappears or fades with time.
See, this is not what I'm going to shut up. It is something I must continue to overcome and have not done yet.
I want to thank God for keeping me alive and well.
To my fans, I am forever grateful
for all of your love and support
throughout this past week and beyond.
Your positive thoughts and prayers
have helped me navigate through this difficult time.
I want to thank my family, my team,
and the staff at the Cedars-Sinai
who have been at my side the entire time.
Cedars-Sinai is the hospital
where everybody go when they overdose, right?
Yeah.
Without them, I wouldn't be here writing this letter to all of you.
I now need time to heal and focus on my sobriety and road to recovery.
The love you have all shown me will never be forgotten,
and I look forward to the day where I can say I came out on the other side.
I will keep fighting with love, Demi.
I hope she doesi I hope she does
I hope she does as well
what other sentiment are you going to get from us
we hope you do well
we hope you continue to fight your battle
and we hope you stay strong
I just don't like that white people are able to
just get away with certain lines that black people
who have the same problems can't
but I won't be that guy right now
we killed Lamar Odom, we killed Chris Brown we killed so many niggas we just killed kanye not too many weeks ago when he said
he had an opioid problem true only with white people do we do we sit down and say oh my god
the world is fucking stopping but i'm sensitive to anybody with a drug issue so i'm shutting up
and demi lovato is in my prayers not Not specifically by name, but... For all the celebrities.
In the group of friends.
Let me call Demi Lovato, man.
Hello, this is Joe Budden from the Joe Budden.
That would be funny.
I think we've hit everything.
I don't think there's anything else that we really, really, really need to care about.
Alex Jones, all his content has been removed from everywhere for being a piece of shit.
Round of applause for that.
Let's see what else is really, really, really
important. Oh, shit!
How could I not tell you guys?
This is from our group chat, too.
You guys informed me that A. Marie
has a new project out.
It's got BG on it.
I'm tuned in.
I think Eve's on it too.
How new is this project?
It just came out this weekend.
It's a new project.
Eight tracks.
Anne-Marie.
This is Talking To Me,
the remixes.
That's the project.
So they remix?
It's the Talking To Me song
that y'all have.
How many times
did they remix it?
Eight.
No way.
No way.
Get the fuck out of here.
More.
They covered a lot
of demographics,
so they have a bunch of
I was just waiting
for you to answer.
Check this out.
I'm not listening
to eight remixes.
Nah, nah.
The first remix
is with Foxy Brown,
the Trackmasters remix.
The second one is with Foxy Brown, the Trackmasters remix. The second one is with Foxy Brown.
That's the trackmasters remix.
Oh, this is bad.
Then it's the Talking to Me featuring Jack Frost remix.
Then it's the Talking to Me.
What?
I like Jack Frost.
Yeah, come on.
You know we had to get a remix from Jack.
After you get Foxy, naturally, you next person you go to is Jack Frost.
Then they blessed us.
Then they blessed us.
They didn't bless me.
They didn't bless you, maybe.
No, they blessed us, nigga.
Then they blessed us with the Talking to Me Trackmasters Instrumental.
That was track four.
Well, yeah.
I mean, sometimes you just need the beat.
Track five, they gave us the Trackmasters remix instrumental.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you can rap on it.
You got to have both.
Well, track six is when things really heated up, and they gave us the Talking to Me, Mark
Ronson, Sunshine remix.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's the issue?
Mark Ronson bringing the sunshine.
Things really heated up.
Sunshine.
OK. Yeah, no, we got it.
Then they gave us the Talking to Me, Mark Ronson, Sunshine Remix Instrumental.
That was track seven.
Naturally.
They closed it out.
They closed it out with a bang here.
Talking to Me featuring Foxy Brown, Trackmasters, Remix, Acapella.
Nice.
I'm going to remix that.
If you want to blend at the party,
and you want to use the Foxy and Mark Ronson. And this was released on July 20th, 2018.
This is a product of Columbia Records,
a division of Sony Music Entertainment.
What is that?
It's a Maxi single.
It's a Talking To Me album.
It's a Maxi single.
The album.
Talking To Me, the album.
The album.
Talking To Me, the remix album. How many times were they talking to Amarito? Eight every song he's talking to me the remix album
how many times
were they talking
to A. Marie though
eight
that's a man talking
how many times
they were talking
to her eight times
alright cool
which is funny
cause I ain't heard
nobody say a word
to her ass
in about a decade
that's what I'm saying
who would've been
talking to A. Marie
track masters
and Mark Ronson
Jack Frost
and Jack Frost
oh man poor Jack Frost B And Jack Frost. Oh, man.
Poor Jack Frost.
BG.
All right.
Now, I can't believe that we did this whole podcast and did not talk about Ella Mai's single.
That's fucked up.
Yep.
You know what?
I'm playing this with my sleeper.
I'm playing this with my sleeper.
I'll do that.
Because I didn't think it was a sleeper.
I thought it was hidden.
I never know that you're talking about her because you say it as three letters.
Yeah, I keep thinking it's the white guys that wear the sunglasses.
Yes, that's what I keep thinking too.
I definitely go just to my LMAO's new single.
LMAO.
Maybe it's different for white people.
How do you pronounce E-L-L-A?
It's LMAO.
LMAO, but you're saying it like L-M-A. L-M-A is M-A-I. You do It's L-M-A. L-M-A, but you're saying it like L-M-A.
And then May is M-A-I.
You do say it L-M-A.
But you say it like you're pausing between each letter.
You know how when people say the ABCs,
they be like L-M-N-O-P.
You say L-M-N-O like that's one letter,
like an alphabet.
You don't say L-M-N-O.
You don't say it like that.
I don't trust anybody that says it like that.
You just said L-M-N-O-P.'t say it like that. I don't trust anybody that says it like that. You just said it like that.
L-M-N-O-P.
That's how you said her name, though.
No, I say L-M-N-O-P, Ella May.
I'm confused now.
Are we talking about the same artist?
Because I'm still not on board.
Whose song are you going to play today?
Because now I need to hear it.
Let's just get to the sleep.
I need to hear it now.
Yeah, but I didn't know that I was trying to play that song.
I was trying to play the As I Yeah, I need to hear it now. Yeah, but I didn't know that I was trying to play that song. I was trying to play
the As I Am Her song,
but I didn't think
you would shit on
the Her project.
I didn't shit.
I just didn't know.
I was disappointed.
I don't know if that's
a sleeper either.
Way too high expectations.
Wow, Her is no longer
a sleeper?
Nah.
Everyone's awake.
Yeah.
You guys familiar
with Diana Gordon?
She put out a pretty
good little EP.
You'd probably like it.
Well, I'm not familiar,
but I would like to hear what type of music it is. It's on Ar it. Well, I'm not familiar, but I would like to hear it.
What type of music is it?
It's all R&B.
Oh, I'm definitely going to listen to it.
There's a lot of good music out.
Yeah, a lot.
Yeah, a lot.
There was a lot to keep up with.
All right, so I guess I will just play.
Do we have anything else before we get to sleepers?
Because we've been rocking for a while.
Which is funny, because I thought our energy was really down at the start,
and here we are approaching three hours.
Yeah, that's how it happens.
Damn,
we ain't even get to the new Tiger freestyle.
We can't skip over that. That's true. I thought
he was killing a little bit. It's alright.
He had some balls on there. Yeah.
And I think his two records are alright.
Tiger keeps a record
though. We can laugh
and make jokes all we want, but he keeps a single.
I never get the full project.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
He does, but we're still going to laugh at his jokes.
Well, you know why he did that freestyle.
Because his new girls.
He does what he does, but way more wavy.
So he got to get back on his shit.
Got the same hairstyle as Travis now.
All right.
I won't play the tiger freestyle.
I won't play it. Freestyle I won't play it
since we all like it
you want to laugh at it?
yeah yeah yeah
we all like it
I got some bars
oh well in that case
I'm not going to play it
what I will say
I'll end with some news
before we get to the sleepers
whatever
that nail salon in Brooklyn
boy that footage
hurt my heart to watch
really hurt my heart to see
for those of you unaware
there was a black family
i want to say a grandmother and a granddaughter or a daughter i don't fucking know but they were
in brooklyn trying to get their nails and their eyebrows and their feet done they paid for the
nails paid for the feet didn't really like the way their eyebrows came out so they told the late that
the ladies in the establishment they weren't going to pay for the eyebrows those uh i don't know what they were chinese asian or what but whoever they
whatever they were they started beating up the grandmother and and the black family with brooms
and sticks and shit over five dollars over five over five dollars so now they're they're petitioning
to get that that business out of out of Brooklyn or wherever they were.
It's been closed down ever since.
They're rioting in front of there.
They will not let that particular company make a dime in that neighborhood.
Now, I agree.
Yeah.
I agree.
And was it a new business as well?
Well, a somewhat new business?
It didn't look new.
It didn't look new it didn't look new but uh yeah you can't treat you can't treat people that way in the neighborhood and expect
to make money especially our grandmothers no no no no no so uh yeah i don't know people need to
really practice better decision making like how did they think that would play out right when when
things are being recorded let me tell you something something. I see somebody hitting my grandparent with a broom or something.
She's going to get ugly.
They better never visit that place again.
Ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever come around here no more.
And I was thinking about this because women have it hard.
Men don't have it hard.
Women have it hard.
The story last week I meant to talk about The dating The dating app
Serial killer guy
Yeah
I just wanna
I just wanna tell women
To be careful
That's all
That was sad
Sam went to college
With the last victim actually
Oh wow
Yeah
Yeah ladies
Ladies
I know we joke around a lot
About do's and don'ts
On a first date
And when you should go
To somebody's house
And 200
You know we joke around a lot, but
please, please, please be careful
in your courtship.
Stranger danger is still a real thing.
I can't stress that.
Now it's a real thing for adults.
It's not just the kids. It's always been a real thing,
but this era of Ubers and
Tinders and DMs and all that
shit, be careful.
Yeah, 100%.
All right, I somehow think that was everything I wanted to cover.
Music, Hall of Fame.
All right, congrats to T.O.
Let me do that, too.
Congrats, T.O.
That was dope.
That was dope.
Even him doing that at his college.
The Randy Moss time was the dopest part of the Hall of Fame shit.
I really loved the Randy Moss time, too. T.O. not showing up was the dopest part of the Hall of Fame shit. I really loved the Randy Moss tie, too.
T.O. not showing up was the dopest part.
Well, they're saying that.
I love both.
That conversation led to them maybe making it mandatory to show up if you want to get in the Hall of Fame.
Yeah, they're going to want to see you.
Yeah, I read that.
And it's trash.
It's bullshit.
They're going to always try to make it so much.
Go to some shit where I got to talk to a bunch of people that had nothing to do with my career, didn't help my career.
It's crazy, man.
I'm not going to shake your hand because you want to be there.
Get your ass out there because I said so.
Yeah, but they are talking about changing the rule.
Of course they are.
Of course they are.
Shit, they didn't want to let him in for a couple years, right?
Yeah.
It took him longer than he should have.
He wasn't a first ballot.
He should have been a first ballot.
Absolutely should have been a first ballot. Absolutely should have
been a first ballot.
That guy was...
Did you guys see
Ray Lewis' face
when they were talking
about all the murders
and shit?
Wait, what?
No, I didn't see it.
I thought you were
talking about the kids
when you said
he kissed all the kids
I seen all that oil
he had on his head.
All that Beijing
he had on.
I'm going to find a picture
and put it in the group chat
of Ray Lewis face
When they was talking about
Just people being murdered
He had all that
Oxtail sauce on his head
Yo Oxtail sauce was good
He had it on his head
Clearly he put it on his head
He loved it so much
Damn we covered everything
Did y'all care about
People up in arms
For Frida having to call drake to get in
the video no no all right just clap me either all right so i'm gonna get into um i'm gonna play
ella may's new record even though i feel like i should be able to play as i am by her that's what
i should be able to play but I won't even get into it.
Since we didn't spend enough time on this,
this is Ella Mai's single,
Ella Mai's single.
L-M-A.
This one is called Trip, y'all.
WJPB.
Brand new by Ella Mai.
Yeah.
I put my feelings on safety WJPB, brand new by LMA. Like we be running them out, I never make it That's just too bitter for words, don't wanna taste it That's just too bitter for words, don't wanna face it
But I think that I'm done tripping, I'm trip tripping
I've been skipping, that's how I control
This feeling of you keep dipping, you keep on hitting it, ooh oh
Baby, it's your love, it's too good to be true
Baby, boy, your love got me trippin' on you
You know your love is big enough, made me trippin' on you
Yeah, it's big enough, got me trippin' on you
Trippin', trippin' on you
My bad, my bad for trippin' on you
Trippin' on you
My bad, my bad for trippin' on you
Trippin' on you
Boy, you know I'm cool when I ain't waiting
But I act a fool when I don't get it
And I'm steady bruising just to save this
But I tripped on your love, now I'm addicted
And that's all I love, ain't tryna waste it
Like we be running a mile to never make it
That's just too bitter for words, don't wanna taste it That's just too bitter for words, don't wanna taste it
That's just too bitter for words, don't wanna face it
Cause I think that I'm done trippin', I'm trip trippin'
I've been sippin', that's how I control
This feelin' of you, keep dippin'
You keep on hittin' it, ooh, oh
Baby, it's your love, it's too good to be true
Baby, boy, your love got me trippin' on you
You know your love is big enough, make me trippin' on you
This big enough got me trippin' on you Trippin', trippin' on you
My bad, my bad for trippin' on you Trippin' on you
My bad, my bad for trippin' on you Trippin' on you
There's some kind of love, baby Trippin' on you Drippin' on you There's some kind of love, baby
Drip, drip
That's the type of love, baby
Drip, drip, trippin' on you
It's big enough, baby
Drip, drip
It's big enough, got me
Drip, drip, trippin' on you
I'm done trippin', I'm trippin'
I've been sippin', that's how I control
This feelin' of you keep getting me
You keep on getting me, ooh-oh
Baby, it's your love, it's so good to be true
Baby, boy, your love got me trippin' on you
You know your love is big enough, made me trippin' for you
Yeah, it's big enough, got me trippin' on you
Trippin', trippin' on you
My bad, my bad, boy, trippin' on you
Trippin' on you, yeah My bad, my bad, boy bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, Bad boys trippin' on you Trippin' on you Trippin' on you Yeah
Yeah
That was Brand New Music from Element OP
Element, trippin' on you
Oh, excuse me, trippin' I'm not trippin' No, it's actually just trip, not trippin' on you Oh, excuse me, trippin'
I'm not trippin'
No, it's actually just trip, not trippin'
Oh, trip?
Fuck that all the way up
Sorry, Ella Mae
Moe, do you have a sleeper up?
Uh, no, but I can
Oh, well, I guess I can go then
This chord didn't work for me last week
So let's try this out again
Alright, so this is Heather Victoria, and it's called Japan. Again
Please
Leave me in Japan
Let's wear it all again
I'll be waiting for you to get here
Please meet me when I dream
That's where I'll be
So I'm rolling in the snow I'll be, oh, so eroded in a song
Sweet R&B and harmonies
Oh, for you to sing along
Come with me, oh, to see
I'll be
waiting
Oh
Saying to you
Dreaming of you
Oh
Get up out of here
Oh Please
Meet me in Japan
Let's wear it all again
I'll be waiting
You get here
Please meet me
I always knew
This love for you
Would travel all around the world
Your energy's been pushing me to live better
Now I'm happier
Come with me overseas
I'll be waiting
What I'm saying is
I'm dreaming of you
Get up out of here
What I'm saying is
I'm dreaming of you I'm dreaming of you
And we're gonna love
Get together
Get together
Get together
Get together
Please
Meet me in Japan
Let's wear it all again
I'll be waiting for you
Get here, please be free All right, that carries on for another three minutes,
but you guys get the idea.
That was brand new music from Rory's evolution of music display
in his living room.
I'm taking my shoes off right now.
I like that.
You should.
Yeah, that was Heather Victoria, Japan.
That definitely sounds like a nice Rory jam. I sweep the floor. Just because I like that. You should. Yeah, that was Heather Victoria, Japan. That definitely sounds like a nice Rory jam.
Sweep the floor.
Just because I like this project, I'm going to play it.
This is off of Red Cat Faze, a Let's Talk More Hustle project.
I don't qualify it, though.
Just big them up.
This is Red Bull featuring Saratoga Spears.
Shake down.
Shake down.
The Red Bull.
World's most dangerous They told me not to fuck with you
You was a fuck nigga
I do 20 in the clip, I got a dub, niggas
We the mafia, mafia law above, niggas
We don't like taking pictures, but we take the pictures
Niggas on the sideline watching players play
Tryna be a coach while the ballers get paid
A day grind time, even holidays I done 100 meter meal ticket in these new J's
I sip my cold we don't trip or pose We just pray for the foes
Make pretty chicks do live shows Get the re-up then we back on the road
It's used to tuck the swammy and the pele Before Patterson we stacked Wapsa Fetti Hit licks of the Getty by the telly Just to make sure the baby's Christmas was
merry
The life of a criminal We was them niggas then, we them niggas now
His loyalty on trial, put him in exile Or put him out of his misery, fuck them reptiles
Better hit the blunt, do a bump Since I pop pop, she ain't seen me once
I'm a dope dealer, I'm a pussy killer Got a model bitch just to be my J-filler
I'm that guy, big strap guy For the pack on the hammer, man, kidnap guys
Think I'm slippin', I got the long clip I ain't swipin', I got them hoes swipin'
Lifestyle of a boss, they throw salt on the name That just seasoned the sauce Word to the homies I lost at my cross
They gon' give me mine, all these missiles getting tossed
If you a track, Lord, you gon' get paid You a hustler, you gon' get paid
Nothing gon' stop you, you gon' get paid You gon' get paid, you gon' get paid
If you a track, Lord, you gon' get paid You a hustler, you gon' get paid
Nothing gon' stop you, you gon' get paid
You gon' get paid, you gon' get paid
You are off me
You are off me
Just give me 40, I'm pumped up
In case you gotta look, it's the plum bands
I told Red, as soon as shit pop, I want it all
But don't want friends, cause when this they call, your call ends
For real, and the trap where I played hooky
Same ball names in a bape hoodie
Made a lil' bands like A-Buggy
I went where the game took me, and my niggas ain't pussy
Cuba Link with a Goldberg, and it ain't whoopee
Same lil' nigga from in front of the steps
Waitin' for the pizza man, he won't come to the Jets shit is funny wild fun, but that's the stuff you expect shit
I even seen the dry snitch fuck with the wet. It's too soon to be thinking about nominees
I'm trying to get this health care straight for Obama leave looking at these 360 deals
I ain't signing these white girl got the kitchen smelling like collard greens two six toga
Gotta keep an arm or two up in arms reach Penthouse, got a long view up in Long Beach
I used to have to try a carpool with the car seat
Now I hit the club with Don Q in a Don C
I'm straight, all I have is a Red Bull
I just fucked a bitch and she about to call ransom
She just gave me head off a pill, that's man school
Shorty coming out them heels fast, that's Deadpool
They calling me the 2-6 Guardian, I'm too sick part of him
Toga got the ball, nigga.
Who this God to him?
The back of Ruthquist with my new chicks arguing.
Cause one still never seen a roof with stars in them.
Bad bitches only want who get calls from them.
Even haters like you heard this new shit follow him.
If they ain't hear me, then they'll hear me now.
Sarah Toga been around and I'm still around.
Red, what up?
You are on me.
That's pretty dope.
That's Red Cafe Red Bull
featuring Saratoga Spades.
I like that record.
I bet you do.
I've never heard him before.
You haven't either,
but he was nice.
If I was Red,
I don't know.
You be mad?
I would have been back in the booth.
You might rewrite that one.
You got off, right?
You got off.
Yeah, I ain't letting him get off on the end of my song like that.
It's kind of like, you know what?
All right.
No.
Let Shorty get off.
No.
Fuck it.
No.
Not Joe.
Not Joe.
Joe is back in the booth.
All right.
Looks like I was trying to end the podcast, but it looks like we have breaking news.
That was trash.
That's the breaking news.
You brought it back again?
Oh, YouTube just kind of did that.
Oh, okay.
Well, anyways,
while we were listening
to Red Cafe,
J. Cole just dropped
a freestyle.
Oh, okay.
So we figured,
hey, let's all listen
to that as a family.
Let's do it.
Yeah.
Come on.
You're running the hi-hat intro.
Wait a minute.
Oh, wait.
Stop it, man.
I didn't give him the proper respect on the breaking news.
I found the one that said best audio quality.
Let's hear that hi-hat.
No, no.
I like a nice hi-hat intro.
Here it comes right now
I think that was
Uchiwale
that's what it sounded like
breaking news
on the Joe Budden
podcast
we have a new
freestyle
from Jermaine
which I'm sure
by tomorrow
you will already know
he tweeted
producer send me beats
and every producer
in the planet
sent him beats
and he picked Uchiwale
and I was about to say
alright I was with you that I'm gonna murder all the beats I didn't sent him beats and he picked Uchiwale and I was about to say alright
I was with you
that I'm gonna
murder all the beats
I didn't know
you were gonna
start with Uchiwale
J. Cole
on Uchiwale
yeah
my mind state
feel like the crime
in the summertime
talking about
his mind state
lot of cabbage
thank god
I never abide
by the established
guidelines
that keep niggas
inside of fabrics
commissioned by the state I skate by the masters like Yoo-Hoo
With a new, new riding passenger
Shout out Oak Cliff, I'm bout to fly to Dallas
Decade from now, I might just buy the Mavericks
What up, Mark Cuban? I am only part human, half man, half amazing
Plus, I'm good at math like I'm Asian
Hate to use stereotypes, but that's light compared to what a nigga get from Caucasians
No race, bait, and treat the beat like PlayStation
Reporting to you live from the International Space Station
I'll probably vacation on Mars
The flow is out of this world and so is the bars
Blow the facade right off of your squad
Lil' rappers, I love you, but you ain't shit
Till you got offers in Prague
Look that shit up, a book nigga, pick that shit up
Expand your vocab, I'm giving out tote tags for no cash
Awesome along plus three seasons after
Absolutely imperative that my heat speak to rappers the problem with this game is this week see a rappers
I'm the answer on the low. I'm a cheat sheet for rappers
I came up round a see the DC adaptors plug talk what I'm really saying is a shame
But my niggas move cane like HBCU campus
whole town for the CC
This is not the 80s don't be silly now
We push pills and sell hair on the billy now billy mama want to judge the part of his addiction
How many black addicts that got caught up in the system with no side stories on your primetime television?
I can smell a blatant contradiction
Man listen
Don't wanna fuck up my vibe
Let's send it on a positive note
Come see me live
K.O.D.
Album of the year
Undebatably
My cadence B
The greatest we've seen
Since the late MC
Whose name was D
Notorious
Dreamville stack
Like the Warriors
Win it back to back
Next up to bat
Is my nigga boss
After that
Jitty Jit
That's a New York City kid
Plus ATL
Me I'm from the fair
But I know them towns well
Before I had a deal
I was giving niggas hell
Now I'm giving niggas deals
And they giving niggas hell
I'm so mad he told me to read a book
I'm mad he told me he knows math like he's Asian
Is that what y'all mad at?
No, I liked it.
It was good.
Yeah, I liked it.
Don't tell me to read a book off of Uchiwale Beach.
Because all I'm thinking about is Uchiwale
is all them bad chicks that was in that video.
You told me I read a book.
No.
Oh, that was your dip it low?
Huh?
No, that wasn't my dip it low.
Tell the truth.
No, it wasn't.
Church at Lagos, that video.
Tommy Mottola
who lives on the road.
First of all,
don't look at me
while you're singing
Lives on the Road.
She lost a lady.
No?
No.
I'm mad that that song
didn't,
like,
I'm mad that young people
just act like that song
is not one of the classics,
too.
It's a classic.
Like, that song should be played with PSA and all the other shit. that song is not one of the classics too. It's a classic. That song should be played
with PSA and all the other shit.
Oh, for sure.
Not the same set,
but you know what I mean.
I don't want to hear that set.
That's not a lot of you guys
versus the guitar.
Next to PSA.
I'm only mad that J. Cole
started the Uchiwale freestyle
with my mind state.
Listen, man.
Go to the tour.
No.
No.
I should go to see Cole.
I would like to see a Cole show, actually.
I want to see Cole.
Yeah, I would see Cole.
Who else is on a Cole show?
Young Thug.
All right.
Well, I want to see Young Thug.
Oh, that's great.
I would watch Young Thug.
I would watch Young Thug.
Who else?
Jaden Smith.
Jaden Smith. Kind of like J would watch Young Thug Jaden Smith
I kind of like Jaden Smith
I like Jaden Smith too
He might have a little fire show
When is this concert?
When is this show?
I was trying to diss
I think it's about to start
In the next week
Trey asked me for tickets
To the Drake and Migos concert
This weekend
Or whatever weekend it is
Did you help him out?
No not yet
Are you going to be the cool dad? 24th I was going to get it to him concert this weekend or whatever weekend it is. Did you help him out? No, not yet.
Are you going to be the cool dad or like the...
24th.
You have to learn
to get things on your own, dad.
I was going to get it to him,
but then I seen Quavo,
I seen some footage of Quavo
with a fuck Joe Budden sign
on my part.
I just didn't know
if I wanted that type of energy
around my junior.
Can you really be mad
at showmanship and props
and really thinking
about your performances?
I wouldn't be mad about it,
but I mean
my kid's name
is my name
it's like Joe Budden
the third
that's true
awkward moment
in the show
not for me
not for me
and not for my son
I just don't want
my son's stupid
fucking 16 year old friends
like looking at him
during that part
pointing like
oh shit dad
like shut up nigga
my dad would smack
the shit out of
one of you niggas
and that's all I got that's all I got.
That's all I got there.
Okay.
I think we had a good podcast.
Yeah, it was cool.
It was pretty informative.
I'm glad I got my Roc Nation hat already.
I'll tell you that one.
And not getting my plane hat back, buddy.
Anything cool happening this weekend?
I'll be in Detroit for D'Ussé Palooza on Saturday.
Yes.
Be safe.
Thank you, Mo.
Be safe, my brother.
Yeah, I'm going to shoot a text message to Royce probably tonight in the morning.
As you should.
Just to let him know.
Yes.
Just to make him aware.
Royce been in Switzerland for three months.
I know.
That's true.
Well, no.
He left and went to Dallas, then went back.
Smooth way it came through.
From Dallas, then back to Switzerland. That's a wild trip. You got to get to Dallas back. Smooth way it came through. From Dallas then back to Switzerland.
That's a wild trip. You got to get to Dallas back.
Yeah, true.
Dallas, Houston, Austin.
Got to hit that low pocket.
Absolutely.
Until next week,
I want to shout out
to all the news stories
that will break tomorrow
and the next day.
All of the ones
that we missed.
Until then,
I bid you adieu.
It's back. Adieu. It's back.
Adieu.
It's back.
It's back.
Adieu.
Goodbye.