The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 395 | "Rubber Ball Paul"

Episode Date: December 2, 2020

On this episode: Joe and the guys discuss the most anticipated fight of year between Mike Tyson and Roy Jones Jr. but somehow Nate Robinson's clash with Jake Paul was the main event (16:44). Joe then ...mentions a hypothetical Verzuz between two New York legends, Mase and Cam'ron (38:12 & 54:55), a recap of the Soul Train Award winners/performers (1:07:55), and the guys educate themselves on the controversy surrounding Mulatto's name (1:35:40). Joe then asks for predictions from the crew if there was a scenario where Dipset battled G-Unit and/or the LOX in a Verzuz (2:01:38) and more!   Sleeper Picks Joe | N.O.R.E. - “Grimey”  Rory | J Warner - Belong to You Mal | Jae Millz - “High Rollers” (Ft. Anthiny King) Parks | Roc Marciano - “Butterfly Effect”

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What was the first half of that? Something to blazer? Loosen up the time? Open up the blazer. Oh, yeah. Come on. You can't open up the... That's what got you?
Starting point is 00:00:12 Listen, man. I'm the only one that ever comes on this podcast and says the rap lines that blew their mind when they were growing up. Y'all never do it. I'm down to hear it from you. I'd love to hear the Rory lines. I would have to think.
Starting point is 00:00:27 That's a good question. You must learn. We do have to learn as white people. Nas, I can really do this for me. See, this is what Massapeel, that was Rory. That was Rory Mass That was Rory mass appeal. Damn, not the pyramids. I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:00:50 You and your little edgy jokes. It's cool. I'm a lotto. Malato? I see what's going on today. Were we supposed to edit that? I avoided the mulatto conversation The whole time it was happening And now Rory brings it right to my front door
Starting point is 00:01:10 In minute one Now we gotta have it Yeah we gotta do it now For the streets For the streets We wait for the mulatto talk It is for the streets Don't do that
Starting point is 00:01:22 You ready Maze? Party people In the place to be. It's about that time. What you know about going out head west, red legs, TVs all up in the headrest. That blew my mind. That blew my mind. Huh?
Starting point is 00:01:41 That blew my mind. What? TVs all up in the headrest? Like, before you ever saw that? It blew my mind. What? TVs all up in the headrest. Like before you ever saw that. It blew my mind that they were putting TVs in the back seat headrests for the trunk viewers to watch. No, just to have no one back there and they was on. It used to blow my mind too, the niggas that had the rim on the spare, like, ooh, he had
Starting point is 00:01:58 enough for the spare? Nigga put the fifth, he had the money for the fifth BB? Mic check, one, two, one, two. Mic check, mic check, one, two, one, two. Happy Wednesday out there. That's what we do. Hey. Come on. I wouldn't change you if I could. I wouldn't change you if I could. I wouldn't change you if I could.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Uh-uh. Come on. That was another one. That was another one. I'm the reason they made the dress code. They figure I wouldn't wow when I'm in my fresh clothes. That's a good bar. That was another one for me.
Starting point is 00:02:46 I've said that a million times on this podcast before, though. I mean, you can say that. How many niggas that'll die for you? How many get a quiche like a pie with you? I ain't talking about those that get high with you. Niggas know infrared on your head and they ride with you. How many niggas that'll die for you? How many get a quiche like a pie with you?
Starting point is 00:03:03 I ain't talking about those that get high with you. Niggas know infrared on your head and they ride for you, would you ride for me? Why I'ma die for you, would you die for me? Obviously we all know you type of cats Let they man get struck, never strike back Stay in the streets seven days a week Shit get hot, you never blaze your heat Stupid motherfucker wanna play me sweet So I keep him on his toes, that way he never sleep Check this out, right? Call him on the vibes And you don't want a problem with his guys M-A-D-L-A-S-I-E
Starting point is 00:03:37 And if you ever out tryna find me I think I should warn you I get hard when I want to Angeletti, bad boy Niggas ain't ready Yo You the type of cat in the building Holding the cracks Yes Talking niggas on the corner
Starting point is 00:03:55 Holding the gags Yes, talk to Rory Mason, Beth You the nigga never did But seem to know the facts Yo, I know niggas like you, Rory And I We back Yo, I know niggas like you, Rory. And I... More than likely. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Say, Vaughn, how old was you when this was out? Don't nod your head like you know what's going on. Huh? Four? Get out. Everybody's feeling good, feeling great, the gang is here. A lot of pressure. How would you handle that? She's in one of those moves. Mace, what would you do?
Starting point is 00:04:50 I'd turn out all the hoes that's heterosexual. Smack conceited niggas right off the pedestal. I even look for my dad that I never knew. Then show him how I look in my Beretta 2. I do good shit like... Basely, this is not the optic we needed for the Mace set. When 24 hours to live is on, we don't need a dog licking all over us. I'm going up in the kennel.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Teach niggas how to spin, stash the rest. Give once to the niggas under massive stress. Give every bum a one-inch free cash to invest. And hope all the world's low will be my last request. Oh, man, you can't cut it off on Kiss. I probably eat some fried chicken and drink a Nantucket. Then go get a jar from Branson. And make sure I leave my mother the money to take care of Grant. Oh, man, you can't cut it off on Kiss. What a morbid song. Look how hardcore the depressing songs were back then.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Hey, this was mood music. Sounded different than Black Cloud. Yeah, these niggas was angry. That's so good. Yeah, these niggas was angry. Spread it out on different floors. And I'm gonna play Lotto. For what? Even though I ain't gonna be here tomorrow. I'm so good, man. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, coming late now so i feel like we got to repeat this let them know what the fuck is going on here yeah yeah it's true parks was late but it's fine uh what we at 395 welcome to episode 395 of the joe button podcast oh shit we're at the point where i'm giving rapper hands with the intro oh what a loser welcome to 395 of the joe button podcast i'm your humble grateful gracious highly favored and ko-free host.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Here with a few of my nearest and dearest. Brother Maul is here. Rolex showing you no divides when rich niggas is here. Come on, man. Parks is here. Not even Budge. Didn't even deny it. Parks Valley is here.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Parks, you got a little belly over there. You've been eating, huh? I just ate. It was a holiday week. Taking those weight gainer pills the baddies take. Oh, my God. Just taking his macaroon or whatever that shit is. Hey, I've seen a before picture of that.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I'm Chimba. All right. Who else is here? Who else is here? Did you see it, though? Just who else is here? That's all we're going to know. We're worried to see it.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Hey, guys. Should we edit that Volado line now I think about it No Stay on that shit We're not signing nowhere E-Rab is here
Starting point is 00:07:31 Savon is here Corey is here And Alex the Great is here I want to shout out Our YouTube viewership Shout out to niggas Listening anywhere But that god forsaken app
Starting point is 00:07:40 You know what's going on Speaking of YouTube Swipe up Swipe up Swipe up to subscribe And What do speaking of youtube swipe up swipe up swipe up to subscribe and what do you swipe up subscribe and swipe up you guys oh and click the bell whatever the bell does i don't think you swipe on instagram on youtube yeah that's just subscribe man you know what the fuck i'm saying uh shout out to uh all black owned businesses still shout out to black
Starting point is 00:08:01 women still shout out the creators still shout out to everybody figuring out how to get by during this pandemic. Still we got merch. Hey, we have merch. We got mad shit that we don't announce to you guys. Designed by Ian. Is this a whiteboard? Y'all should know how to sell some shit. We do have merch
Starting point is 00:08:25 We released a capsule What? We did We did put out a capsule right? It was a capsule We put out a Rory shirt on Black Friday By the way That said Big Rory
Starting point is 00:08:42 No one's ever said that on this podcast Or in the bedroom No one person I mean that is a fact Nobody's ever said Big Rory. No one's ever said that on this podcast. Or in the bedroom. No one person. I mean, that is a fact. Nobody's ever said Big Rory anywhere. No, they've only asked, is it in yet? That's when you know they're lying. Oh, Big.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Now, come on. Stop it, Ma. Stop it. All right. I feel it in my stomach. No, you don't. It's nowhere near your stomach. Just be honest with me.
Starting point is 00:09:01 You're just going to fart. If you're on. Jesus. If you're on YouTube, subscribe. Fucking a chick with a bubble guts is hilarious. If you're anywhere else... If you're anywhere else with a subscription button, press it there too.
Starting point is 00:09:21 And go pick up a big Rory t-shirt. And buy some merch. Who came up with a big Rory t-shirt. And buy some merch. Who came up with that? Rory, shut up. Buy some merch from our capsule. It's all sold out. Especially the big Rory shirt. First one to go. It's all sold out. But if you buy some,
Starting point is 00:09:37 we'll press more. Limited edition. Ta-da! Now that's a commercial there now on to our next commercial see Spotify
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Starting point is 00:10:14 Rory want that Cash App money. He put his poker face on during that little act. Yeah, no, seriously. Honestly, actually. I mean, it's the wheel and then I think it's Cash App. Yeah. Maybe Fire. Paper towels.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I don't think we get paper towels enough credit. All right, man. Let's get a streak. That's what they've been waiting for. Mulatto has been a really big issue out here. Rory? Rory, what say you? Listen, if Sean-
Starting point is 00:10:44 Should that be her name? If Sean King can be that, I can be that. What a... A white man. Come on, let's start this. How you doing? Let's get the ball out the white boy's hands. They're trying to create their own shot.
Starting point is 00:11:02 We got to set it up. How y'all doing, man? What's set it up How y'all doing man What's going on How y'all feeling What's going on How was your weekend You guys looking good Look like you feel good
Starting point is 00:11:09 Hope you're refreshed Rejuvenated Come on talk to me What's happening I've been wearing The same shit for two weeks Sorry bro We with you though
Starting point is 00:11:18 I just now changed My sweats that I wore The last five podcasts I haven't cleaned anything And I've been wearing Black the last 20 podcasts Can you guys tell I'm. And I've been wearing black the last 20 podcasts. Can you guys tell I'm down? It's because you're
Starting point is 00:11:27 killing these niggas. Oh, I didn't feel like that. Yeah. You didn't feel like you was killing them. I was feeling down inside. Mo, you the only guy, like, I was asking Rory,
Starting point is 00:11:39 do you have, do you have, like, a podcast stylist or this is all your work from the closet? No, I's me. I just grab shit. I'm going to throw on.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Didn't even realize that I matched the orange with the Mets. No, you know. And the inside of the hood. You got a lot of pieces with orange in it. Yeah, that's one of my favorite colors this time of year. Nigga got deep. I don't care. I don't care about your fucking favorite color.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Yeah, I thought we was going there. Well, Maul did have a stylist at our Sony Hall show. Oh, yeah. We had limited backstage wristbands and one went to Maul's stylist. Which got to take care of the stylist, man. That's all it was about.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Yeah. Okay. Just supporting the stylist community. That's it. I feel you. A good stylist is important. True. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:26 This is when I don't joke on mall. I'm just letting the joke pass without adding French stuff to it. Because it was a way better joke off mic. Oh, you had jokes off mic? I didn't hear it. I was kind of waiting for him to spill the beans. Well, not mall. Because the streets didn't say this about mall. Well, if they did, I ain't going to own up to it.
Starting point is 00:12:56 There's some bullshit coming in. The streets asked. Oh, we have a question segment coming up. Brand new question segment, but we'll get that. Streets wanted to know if you believed in stylist exes. Huh? Do I believe in stylist exes? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:13:15 Yeah, like. Or do you believe maybe we're just better off as clients? I think better off as clients is always. Do you think a stylist will dress you better if you maybe beat before? You think you'll get all the newest pieces, some of the samples? No, it depends. It depends on what the situation was. Like if y'all were fucking with each other and y'all stopped fucking with each other on bad terms,
Starting point is 00:13:37 I don't think it'd be a good idea to work with them. Say you have a big date coming up and maybe you need your stylist's opinion. Okay, this is like a broader question. Let's make it a little broader because i was very hung up on the stylist like it like a co-worker x yeah that you continue working with yeah i don't think this isn't this isn't personal to mall no it depends this was this was a silly thing joe and i were talking about and we're just immature yeah i'll never beat any stylists. No, I have beat stylists before. Yo, why y'all? No, be clear.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I was trying to protect you. Y'all always trying to jam me up. Do y'all know how real I am? No. I don't give a fuck. Y'all can never jam me up. I'm never awkward. I think he was trying to protect your anonymity.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Yeah, that's what I was trying to do. It's a tough word to say. I can't say this. I mean, we ain't saying no names. But yeah, I've done it. I like women. I don't care what their profession is. You don't have a favorite profession?
Starting point is 00:14:24 No. If they happen to be a stylist, great. Send me some new jeans. Rory, how was your weekend, man? Horror hooker. Yeah. Profession. Now I'm all getting clothes from the chicks he's beating.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Bring me some jeans. If you beef with some khakis, you are a sick motherfucker. Yeah, that's the boss. We're done with that. For the dockers? Rory, how was your weekend? It's about to be a silly pocket. I can tell what's going on.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I can see what's going on in the air. It's the best. Rory, how was your weekend? Take another chug. You know, I existed. You existed over the weekend? We have to get you help, man. No, let's start.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Let's start. Let's do it right now, man. I went to Joe's and sat quietly on the couch while company was there having a blast in this exact outfit. You didn't even go home after. You just came straight here. You just stayed there looking at your glass the whole time? I may have smirked when Nate Robinson's face hit the campus, but that's what it took.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Nigga left before that. I'm like, yo, Nate better go down. It's fine, guys. I'm going down. I'm going to head out. You know how hard it is to Irish exit when only four people are in a living room? And I was almost successful and then Joe
Starting point is 00:15:31 downstairs on the phone, like, yeah, where you going? Home. Oh, and then during the Irish exit, Joe's door is broken, so I can't get out of the house. You hear that? Robbers and killers? Which is also a fire hazard. No, they can't get in or out. You hear that robbers and killers which is also a fire hazard no they can't get in or out you hear that muggers mugger you get mugged in your own crib
Starting point is 00:15:51 come right in so yeah i ruined my irish exit i had to go through the glass sliding door damn is there anything that we can do to help no i don't i don't accept help. I shut down. Okay. I think we need a guys trip, man. Yeah, maybe so, yeah. We was talking Miami New Year's. All COVID people
Starting point is 00:16:13 are joking. Or at least a strong blackout. You want to just come over here one night and just drink a whole bottle of Jameson and black the fuck out? Don't listen to Parks. That's a Monday.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Or whiteout. Well, yeah. How about that? Or a mulatto out. Gentlemen, where would y'all like to start? I'm done with Rory and his mulatto jokes. And I'm done checking on his mental health.
Starting point is 00:16:31 It's when you mix the Jameson and the vodka. Oh, gross. And there it is. That's our start, you guys. The big ticket. Only one of the greatest fight cards I've ever seen in my entire life. The most entertaining sports weekend of all time. Oh my goodness gracious was I glued to the couch.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Same. And my dumb ass, since 8 o'clock, mind you, was I glued. Yeah, same. Hey, I was so glued, I almost purchased the women's exhibition event that was $9.99 right before. No. Well, I don't know. I didn't order it. But I figured that couldn't have been the right thing if it was $9.99 right before. No. Well, I don't know. I didn't order it. But I figured that couldn't have been the right thing
Starting point is 00:17:07 if it was $9.99. So once I figured out how to order that thing, oh, man. Man, man, and man. I enjoyed it. We were there so early and invested, we were actually discussing that maybe Nate Robinson could survive.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I think a lot of people had Nate winning that fight. He was in the dunk contest. I think people had me winning that fight. He was in the dunk contest. I think people had me winning that contest going. I had him winning. I mean, for some strange reason, I thought that
Starting point is 00:17:35 he would learn how to fight before doing something like this. Before taking on a fighting game? Against a fighter? Yeah. See, I'm not even, I'm not going to keep calling Jake Logan, Jake Paul. What's his name? He's not fighter? Yeah. See, I'm not even, I'm not going to keep calling Jake Logan, Jake Paul.
Starting point is 00:17:48 What's the thing's name? He's not even a fighter. Yeah, I'm not going to keep calling him a fighter like Stephen A. Smith did all week. He has fought in a boxing ring and has been around a boxing gym much more than Nate Robinson.
Starting point is 00:17:57 How about that? He had one fight in a ring. Man, fuck him. On TV. You can go fight in a ring now. He had one professional fight. Beat his big ass up. Yo, killer or whatever, please set up the Joe button.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Jake Paul YouTube fight so I can watch Jake Paul put Joe in his fucking ass. Well, we're not going to see that because Joe's not training for three months. Neither did Nate. But if I just see him in the hookah bar. Oh, you know, I'm taking you in a hookah bar any day. Don't try to maneuver in there. Don't try to hype up your ring. These great white hopes.
Starting point is 00:18:29 If you see that ring side, I got you. Listen, no, honestly, I didn't know that Nate would run head first into every punch. I didn't know that he would let his hands down. Now,
Starting point is 00:18:40 the strategy of like, put your head down and then rush at the opponent is insane. Who taught him that? Don't even look at him. Just put your head down and then rush at the opponent is insane. Who taught him that? Don't even look at him. Just put your head down and swing your fist and go. This was really bad. This was hilarious. Did you watch his feet at all?
Starting point is 00:18:55 Wait, he had feet? First of all, he was wearing fucking basketball sneakers. He was wearing Knicks colors, so we knew what time it was. Yeah, but that's what got me to picking him as a winner. Why? Because the Knicks colors, so we knew what time it was. Yeah, but that's what got me to picking him as a winner because I seen him get rowdy on the Knicks bench during a scuffle.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Oh, you mean where they're not allowed to fight? Yes. You saw him getting a slap fight? I thought that would work.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Sometimes you fall for the guy that's aggressive when no fighting is allowed. Like, ooh, I'm going to get you.
Starting point is 00:19:21 But yeah, this wasn't it. I told my homeboy two weeks ago Nate was going to get knocked out Cause I felt like
Starting point is 00:19:27 He took this white boy Like a joke He thought this was like a He thought this Jake Paul was a punk He thought he was soft And um He was wrong
Starting point is 00:19:35 It was the total opposite yeah He was big wrong And I saw a video Of Jake Paul like sparring He knows how to fight This is Listen I don't know
Starting point is 00:19:43 I'm suggesting that In a street fight Sure sure, take who you want to take. That's way different. This is the most technical sport on planet Earth. If you get in a ring with somebody that knows how to box, you're going to lose. I mean, let's not go so far given it's Jake Paul, right? Let's not give Jake Paul all the, like, his hands don't look the greatest. But he can do weight. Like, that's not the greatest.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Jake Paul looks like shit. Yeah. He doesn't have to throw the greatest of punches. He's an amateur. But he knew, wait, that's not the greatest of punches. Paul looks like shit. Yeah. He doesn't have to throw the greatest of punches. He's an amateur. Yeah, but, no, okay. Not anymore. He's a professional now. He's an amateur.
Starting point is 00:20:12 No, but listen, what I will say about, what I will say, all of us should be able to speak to the unorthodox white boy, though. Like, the white boy that you fight that he should know, like, you should know what to expect, but he's unorthodox, so he might catch you because he's a big, weird white boy. Jake Paul is just one of those white boys that he's been at a bunch of house parties fighting. He's been at a bunch of bars fighting. No, see, I have the exact opposite, too. I think he's been at a bunch of house parties being nice to Negroes.
Starting point is 00:20:41 a bunch of house parties being nice to Negroes. I think he's been at a bunch of a bunch of I think he's been at a bunch of listening parties being nice to brothers.
Starting point is 00:20:50 For sure. But deep down he had some inner anger towards us. He'll get it popping. He'll punch you. He'll pop on somebody at the house party
Starting point is 00:20:58 for sure. I don't think that he's winning any real boxing matches. Well we're going to see because now he's got Floyd coming up next. No he doesn't.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Well, if I can instigate it enough, hopefully. That won't happen. Somebody from the black community has to come and avenge this for us. Nate just took 750 and boogied. And now the white boy woke up the next day
Starting point is 00:21:17 and put an A. Robinson jersey on. The disrespect. During Black History Month. Joe, you are black and a YouTube star. I don't see why you wouldn't be the perfect... And December should be Black History Month. Joe, you are black and a YouTube star. I don't see why you wouldn't be the perfect... And December should be Black History Month. That hurt Nate, though.
Starting point is 00:21:30 This fight hurt Nate more than anything, though. Why? Because he called this dude out. He was talking a lot of shit. Oh, Nate, this is how this started? Tell us the backstory. I was unaware. He called him out after his first fight.
Starting point is 00:21:42 After his first fight, Nate called him out and said, fight somebody that's a real athlete. You know, gave him all of that. Oh, no. Who was Jake Paul's first fight? I have no idea who Jake Paul is, by the way. I think he was some Indian dude, I think. Yeah, like another YouTuber.
Starting point is 00:21:54 He fought a Z. Something like that. And, you know, so Nate said, fight somebody that's athletic. He did. So he's like, okay. And he told Nate, I'm going to bounce your head off the mat like a basketball. Rory has to fight Jake Paul now. How tall is Jake Paul?
Starting point is 00:22:10 Look at Rory. What's his reach? When you get to that first. What's his reach? Rory, you know what? Rory said something. Rory was commentating during this fight, and he said something I believe to be a little shaky. He kept screaming, but look at Jake. He's 6'1
Starting point is 00:22:26 compared to 5'9. I was talking about the reach not their actual height. It changes everything. Especially if you're going to have a fucking fight and you're running sprinting head first into the punch. I could just do this. So Jake Paul landed 8 of 21 punches.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Getting hit 8 times and falling down three times is fucking insane, man. Yeah, but falling with your ass up in the air. Look at his ass. That's true. He ain't even lay flat. It's been one punch and one knockdown in my life. I was honestly concerned about it.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I'm not about to sit here and act like I'm tough. I thought Nate was really hurt, though. Yeah, me too. When he felt like that, I was like, that was bad. He was really hurt. I know they had to sign a waiver for whoever put this fight on. I know they weren't liable. Saying if you die, you die?
Starting point is 00:23:12 Yeah. But I think the next fight, the amateurs will have on headgear. They're going to have to. They have to have headgear. They're not going to let them fight like that again. Nate, you my guy, but there's only one way to fucking redeem yourself, man. I don't know where Spud Webb is but you just gotta
Starting point is 00:23:27 go knock him out where's Muggsy Bogues every player that was short you gotta go handle Tyus Ednig yeah Tyus Ednig go find Tyus real quick yeah
Starting point is 00:23:37 oh oh he puts something out Nate Robinson he says thank you everyone for all the well wishes I'm okay I appreciate Triller for almost getting me killed oh no he's still trying to fulfill his contract to get the back end of the money he's got to do ig posts you know his contracts for the opportunity as well as everyone
Starting point is 00:23:55 that has backed me during uh the fight yeah you got back to my coaches wait see now this is where i get confused to my coaches fuck you trainers. Wait, plural on both of them? You're fired. And teammates. Nigga, you ain't have a teammate in there. Allen Houston wasn't walking through the rink. Maeve Robinson did not play with Allen Houston. It wasn't the outcome that we wanted.
Starting point is 00:24:19 All right, who we played? Derek Harper wasn't walking through that rink. Derek Harper? You made him older? Mello's still available. But I'm thankful for the opportunity to fight on the biggest stage that there has been. Nate, don't ever do that again on the biggest stage that there has been. Please don't.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Also, stay your ass home. I heard some of his friends saying, oh, I respect him because he got right in the group chat and took the joke. What are you going to do? Never speak to your friends again? He got to take that. Because if he would have won, he would have been talking his shit. So now that he got knocked out,
Starting point is 00:24:48 he got to take all of that. Yeah, you got to own that. That's how it go. White boy knocked you out. You got to live with it. See, where was he going? Look at the punch that did it. Yeah, no, this is bad.
Starting point is 00:24:57 They both... That's not even a punch that did it. That was like a windmill punch. Jesus. The overhand is not an effective punch. That's crazy that that worked. Word. This was a great punch. I do want to commend Jake Paul for seeming to take this stuff somewhat seriously,
Starting point is 00:25:12 staying at it, staying consistent, even despite all the jokes from people like me. Clearly, he has improved somewhat. I wouldn't know because I don't watch him. I didn't even know he was until this. He looked like he had some idea of what he was doing out there. No, he definitely knows how to fight. Yeah, no, you hit him with the eight-hitter quitter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:32 He definitely knows how to fight. Or eight one-hitter quitters. But listen, the fights before that I actually enjoyed too. The whole card. The undercard. And this is not an ad. Trilla didn't pay me. But they could if they wanted to. I mean, if they'd like to.
Starting point is 00:25:46 But I mean, I think we can conjure up even more favorable reviews. Yeah. But yeah, I enjoyed the whole card. I enjoyed the opening fight. I didn't know they were like four to five opening fights. I wish I'd have known that before I sat on my couch at 8 p.m. But the opening fights, they were good, though. They were good. Some of them were really good. Yeah, I really
Starting point is 00:26:08 enjoyed them. They're real fighters. Corey kept saying that the gloves were oversized in all of these fights. Did they appear that way to anybody else? I didn't notice that, but I noticed that the ring looked smaller. The ring looked smaller, and the gloves did look a little bigger. That's why the gloves look bigger.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Because the ring was smaller? Yeah. It could be. Oh, I got to get a smaller bed. They were over 12 ounces? You said you got to get a smaller bed. That was good. That was a good shot.
Starting point is 00:26:34 This thing is stupid, man. Then I'll really be massive. Going to get you a good twin? Get a twin. Get you a good twin bed. Then I'll get on top of her. Giant dick is here. So listen, we were in my house.
Starting point is 00:26:55 We were trying to call these fights. The first fight was a good fight. They both beat each other up and it was a draw or somebody won, but we didn't care because they both beat each other up and it was a draw or somebody won but we didn't care because they both beat each other up yeah second fight came and it was a a tall long-limbed paws black man with incredible reach and what appeared to be incredible defense but he was fighting somebody called the technician and my money was riding on the technician and the technician technique did it he did i don't think I saw that one. That was a good one. This was my favorite fight.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Because the technician had no business winning that fight if you just were looking at them. But one clearly knew how to box. The other one didn't. Then came the beast, which was the big white boy who you wouldn't want to fight at a bar versus the guy who had mad experience. He was like a champion mad times.
Starting point is 00:27:46 They paid him mad money. He got paid like 90,000 times more than the other guy. I was like, all right, this guy should win, and he did win. He went eight rounds and didn't sweat or look like he was out of breath at all. I really enjoyed the performances that were between this. We got all of these good fights and a French and Sway Lee sighting together. Looking like they spoke to each other since Unforgettable was made. Four times in a row.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Same performance. I didn't care. Every time they came on, I said, look at French's Dior jacket. It was a great coat. That was a nice coat. Yeah. They look good. Oh, look, they even danced together a little bit.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Yeah, no, they gave him a two-step. I love when there's that part of the song that neither one of the artists will do live, so they have to dance together. Especially when it's a really tall guy and a really short guy. Sway Lee will not bring Slim Jimmy anywhere anymore. They could have used the hype man if they did it four times. He's not on that record. So what?
Starting point is 00:28:44 That's his brother, they told us. Bring him out? For years. We have to get over rappers pretending to be family. Didn't they tell us that? Are they not real brothers? I think they are. That's the part the niggas missed at that Migos altercation on the red carpet that year.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Shit, Slim Jimmy almost beat me up right before then. Yeah, you've a rough time with families that's pretty funny work who else who else performed Wiz and Snoop Snoop oh and St. John yeah that's pretty crazy he got like the headline slot yeah uh YG oh yeah YG was his set was dope To the whole LA crew Yeah Well yeah Everybody's in LA
Starting point is 00:29:28 Staples More was you backstage? No I was in the Bronx I was in LA Why didn't St. John bring you up? You could have been the hype man I'm not a recording artist Are you the Slim Jimmy of
Starting point is 00:29:39 The John family? No I will say I gotta give St. John credit for not singing To background vocals I was impressed He tried to keep St. John credit for not singing to background vocals. I was impressed. He tried to keep it rock star. Are you devil John?
Starting point is 00:29:51 No. I mean, it was an acceptable shot. I'm not saying it was a bad one. It hit the rim. Yeah. I'm just getting shit up there now. I'm not mad at it. Oh, so this was good, man.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Listen, again, I'll pay. Oh, we didn't even talk about the mic, right? About saying I'll talk about mic? Holy shit. The best part of all of it, by the way, that we didn't touch upon is Snoop commentating. Oh, yeah. It's true. That shit was hilarious.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Grandma, they out there fighting again. Snoop definitely has a new gig, for sure. Yeah. But see, I wanted to ask you, because you say new gig, and the consensus was that Snoop was the star and he killed the commentating gig. My response to that is, this is not the first time that Snoop has commentated. No, not the first. So my question to y'all is, he's done All-Star weekends before.
Starting point is 00:30:40 He's done the celebrity basketball games before. And he's been good. But my question to y'all is, was he so much better here because he was allowed the freedom in this on doing this unconventional card because he probably can't say some of that stuff on disney yeah he can't curse he can't say some of that stuff about real fighters but doesn't this lead to if if snoop is correct doesn't this lead to we had this talk on here don't we want to see sports with like the real niggas commentating, like saying the real shit?
Starting point is 00:31:07 Absolutely. Definitely. That's going to come soon. Specifically with boxing. We're going to be able to pay for that. Definitely with boxing. At least with boxing
Starting point is 00:31:13 because it's all pay-per-view anyway. It's not on cable TV. So, curse. Yeah, I mean, I don't really care about like the Cardinals game.
Starting point is 00:31:21 You can leave that to NBC. Listen, Tyson looked great. I think one of the important things to point out is that neither one of these gentlemen were hurt, bloodied, or knocked out. That was a good fight, too, actually. I think that would have put a damper on the night. That was a great fight.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I really enjoyed that fight. I was mad that it was only eight rounds. And for a minute, it said six rounds, and that was really tight. Yeah, they kept switching it. Yeah. They switched it like three times. I thought they was going to the corner, letting them know, like, nah, we only going six. I thought that's exactly what it was. Yeah, like, we only going it. They switched it like three times. I thought they was going to the corner letting them know like, no, we only going six. I thought that's exactly what it was.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Yeah, like, we only going six. Fuck this. But yeah, it was a good fight. Mike looked good. He looked to be in better shape than Roy, honestly. No, he didn't look a thing. He was in better shape than Roy. It didn't dawn on me that Mike may be the more technical boxer today.
Starting point is 00:32:02 I just didn't think about that aspect of it. No, he looked quick with the... He looked quick all over the place. It looked like Roy didn't get knocked out only because Mike was adhering to the rules. Yeah, he could tell. No, I was actually sure. It was.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Yeah, they didn't turn it on. They were smart. Roy looked good, too. Roy looked good. He's got the weird style, so it looks weird no he still had quick i feel like roy did look good because he's 51 years old mike is 54 so i mean let's put that out there yeah i also think there's a part of roy that looked good because they talked before the fight and said all right let's not kill each other maybe so some of that showboat and shit hey that's
Starting point is 00:32:43 that shit he kept doing from back in the day i know it used to kill you when it was coming yeah he might have died if he kept doing that fucking with mike one of them swings where mike missed is like all right roy mike looked like he's getting tempered it was a pretty good fight man he was he was smart he was smartly wrapping up tyson all the time so he couldn't get no blows in yeah they weren't throwing um if you look at you at a lot of the replay, they weren't really throwing super deadly punches. We'll pay to see that again though, right? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Is there anybody else for Mike to fight in his age range, age group? Yeah. How old is Bernard Hopkins? He's right there, 50, I think. Yeah, maybe 49, I would say. High 40s. 50, yeah. Wasn't there talk about Holyfield, something like this at one point?
Starting point is 00:33:28 I don't want to see Holyfield do that. Wait, really? He's older than Mike. Yo, B-Hop is that dude. I never knew he was. B-Hop is that dude. Oh, yeah. He's older than Mike.
Starting point is 00:33:36 He was fighting older anyway. When he was like in his prime, he was older than everybody. Yeah. So, yeah. Oh, we need B-Hop versus Mike. That would be great. I wouldn't be mad at that. Is B-Hop still in shape and shit? He just boxed last year. Oh, yeah. Oh, we need B-Hop versus Mike. That would be great. I wouldn't be mad at that. Is B-Hop still in shape and shit?
Starting point is 00:33:48 He just boxed last year. Oh, okay. Who knows? Yeah. I don't think I would pay again. I would. Oh, you crazy. They're getting $50 from me in a heartbeat.
Starting point is 00:33:57 The homies were streaming this shit. They can't pay for this shit. At the end of the fight, he's like, oh. They pulled both of them to the stage. The dude grabbed both their arms. I'm like, fam, what are you doing? Draw. I said, he's about to throw both their arms in there.
Starting point is 00:34:09 He threw them both in there. It's a draw. I'm like, what fight was you seeing? I get it. We can't pick a winner. Tyson definitely won that fight. But I thought it was not a blowout. I thought it was a pretty good fight.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Yeah. I thought Roy looked good. After the post fight interview when they was asking Roy all this shit and he found his voice he was just real talkative I'm like yo fam
Starting point is 00:34:30 you should chill out and then they was like so would you do that again he ain't Roy ain't wanna rule it out but he ain't wanna do that shit he's like I am not fighting this nigga again
Starting point is 00:34:41 like that's not happening no fucking way how impressive how impressive would it be If it's true That Mike indeed Did smoke weed Before this fight
Starting point is 00:34:49 I 1000% believe he did Yeah I definitely think so It wasn't no drug test He went and got that What's that weed he said He was getting The good shit The turtle
Starting point is 00:34:56 The toad The toad Nah nah That's a hallucinogen You can't fight on that You don't know He could have been on the toad You can't fight on that
Starting point is 00:35:04 That's no But he definitely Hit the weed for sure I know Zab is younger than them But how much younger is Zab You can't fight on that. You don't know. He could have been on the toad. You can't fight on that. That's no. But he definitely hit the weed for sure. I know Zab is younger than them, but how much younger is Zab? No, Rory. No. No. Just no. Zab's got to be, what, 40-something?
Starting point is 00:35:13 I don't care how old he is. He better not get in the ring with Mike Tyson. He's younger. That shouldn't happen, Rory. Yeah. Let's just step on that one. But overall, good fight. You can get $50 from me anytime.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Shout out to Trilla for putting on an amazing event shout out to both rory i'm rory rory and i'm here shout out to rory rory and mike that was just awesome it was great yeah i liked it yeah i want to see it again now i'm mad that there's no no entertainment like this oh no we got a fight this weekend too right do we Do we? Earl Spence, right? Oh, yeah. Hey!
Starting point is 00:35:44 That's a fight. We're back. That's a fight. We back. Him and I'm Garcia, right? Oh, no. This is a real fight. Yeah, this is going to be a good one.
Starting point is 00:35:53 This is a rematch, right? No? Is this a rematch? No. They never fought before. No. Clearly, we're not Bob Arum. Never pretended to be. That's going to be a good fight, though.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Yeah, it is. But I like Errol Smith This was like boxing versus It was kind of Didn't it feel like that? Yeah What was like boxing versus? Roy and Mike
Starting point is 00:36:13 This Triller fight Well I mean I wouldn't say Who would Nate be? Versus should have an undercard like this though Not for nothing We talked about that like I think a five record ten record thing
Starting point is 00:36:28 a five song could be great I'm still everyday trying to come up with somebody I can beat in the three song battle it's tough my career was so trash
Starting point is 00:36:39 wait what are your three again? I'm not doing this what would be your three? I'm not doing this. No, no. What would be your three? I haven't decided on the third. What's the second? I'm not saying that in the way you think I'm saying it. There's the obvious one. I'm saying, well, what are your two?
Starting point is 00:36:56 I'm saying it because I think you have more than- You know Joe going pump it up in the black cloud. You know that. If you pull out black cloud in a versus, don't ever speak of Will Smith's name again nah I might have
Starting point is 00:37:08 I might have had too much dip on my chip with my Will Smith take I agree I come in here and admit when I'm wrong and I probably don't think I could beat
Starting point is 00:37:16 Black Rob either you said you could beat Will Smith or Chingy and Jaquan's hard too Chingy is definitely tough you said you could beat Will
Starting point is 00:37:24 that's what you just said? I let it go when you said it the first time. But if you're going to keep repeating it, then all right, I'm here. I'm just trying to figure out how your brain works sometimes. That's all. I have to come in here and provide content, Maul.
Starting point is 00:37:35 No, listen, listen. It's fire in your three. I'm trying to give you a five. I think you could go five. Pump it up up in the club. Well, you can't play that In these times Is this clubbing? I don't remember the name of that shit
Starting point is 00:37:51 Listen What do y'all think about What do y'all think about That's number two That's hilarious Don't fucking head nod at me nigga What do y'all think about Mace doing a versus Is what i wanted to ask y'all
Starting point is 00:38:06 i'm mace dick riding today but i'm from holland so it's okay that'll be a long night for somebody whoever he verses against now you feel like that even though mace's uh catalog as far as our albums anyway is shorter don't matter because he was so feature heavy he wrote a lot yeah so that's still a long day for someone. We're New York biased here, so we were all going to say that, but who would be an appropriate matchup for Mace? I mean, obviously you would go Cam.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Just the history with them. That's a nice one. I like that matchup a lot. Yeah, you would go Mace, Cam. Pick a winner then, Rory. That's tough. Off mic, we were saying... I didn't say anything. I didn't say a word off mic. I didn't say anything. That, Rory. That's tough. Off mic, we were saying... I didn't say anything. I didn't say a word off mic.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Y'all were saying Mace with a blowout. I didn't say anything. That was Rory. I didn't say a word off mic. I think Cam is hanging for sure. He is. Cam might win that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Give me a score. I'm not mad at somebody feeling like Cam will win that. Give me a pretend score. I'm not mad at that. Cam has a lot to pull from. Yeah. Give me a pretend score. Cam got a lot of dip set shit to pull from. Yeah. Give me a pretend score. Cam got a lot of dip set shit to pull from.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Yeah. That's tough. Now that I think about it, that's tough. Just thinking off top, I would go 11-9 Mace. I do think Cam could win that, too. I might go 11-9 Cam. Me, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Cam has a chance to win that. Yeah. He does. And I think there's going to be a lot of draws where I'm just like, I don't know what wins there. Yeah. Is Cam like the hood favorite in any hood matchup?
Starting point is 00:39:33 Because I'm thinking Bleak because I'm a huge Bleak guy. But maybe Bleak loses to Mace and Cam. Yeah, he does. Yeah. And no disrespect to Bleak. No, Cam is a different animal. Please, y'all know how I feel about Bleak. I love Bleak, but Cam is a whole he does. Yeah. And no disrespect to Bleak. I love Bleak. No, Cam is a different animal. Please, y'all know how I feel about Bleak.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I love Bleak, but Cam is a whole different animal. Yeah. With his solo shit, dip set shit. Yeah. Cam writing shit too. You forgot about that.
Starting point is 00:39:53 And features, not for nothing. Mm-hmm. No, we got to set up Mace Cam. Yeah. That would be a good thing. The more and more I think about Cam is more than that.
Starting point is 00:40:01 We have to set up Mace Cam. If we saw Gucci versus Jeezy, we need the New York version, which is not that, but still. Yeah. Do Mace and Ghost then. I don't think Mace beats Ghost.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I don't think Mace thinks he beats Ghost either. Yeah. You could pull Ghost. Let me not say that. Ghost is another one. Let me not say that. Mace might feel like he beats Ghost.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Mace has those colossal fucking number one hit records. I love Ghostface, but I think Mase beats Ghostface in a versus. Ghost got some shit to pull from, man. Well, triumph wins when that comes on. I'll tell you that one. That would be interesting, too, though, to see a Ghostface. Just Ghostface sit there and just be Ghostface while his record's playing.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I would like to see Ghost in a versus. Yeah, I just want to watch him perform his records. That's it. He has to have on a robe and the gold eagle the eagle thing in my jiggy for sure
Starting point is 00:40:49 I think Ghost is doing that before we have to remind him to do that he's doing that I think that's how Ghost does that in his crib when no one's like
Starting point is 00:40:56 he goes to Whole Foods like that he goes to Whole Foods like that facts is that one of the more recognizable and identifiable like rapper pieces ever made?
Starting point is 00:41:06 Absolutely. For sure. Got it. Got it. All right. Where were we at? Where were we at? What's really important here?
Starting point is 00:41:13 Well, for you. Important? Flex versus stomach. Who will win? Now, update me on this, because I just caught wind of this shut up you know no i honestly don't don't pull on me you you saw you watched i just saw someone someone stabbing someone with something and i saw a long flex uh caption but i didn't read out that's what i don't want to see that um but i don't know what this is it looked like funk flex was pulling one of the pulling a
Starting point is 00:41:46 bernice not even bernice it looked like funk flex was shouting out his surgeon to get the free lipo that that's what we need i know everyone's focusing on flex getting lipo let's talk about flex getting a discount on lipo and doing the post now we're gonna clown him because we're such a legend we're gonna clown him because we're men and this is hip-hop and you got to be like rah rah rah in hip-hop i understand that but do y'all remember how flex used to look he used to be big so i mean family have lost all of that weight and now want to handle the parts that didn't lose so easy like is it horrible i know we're gonna kill him anyway uh if it's for his health cool good for flex i hope so but not he's gonna get clowned fam he just put his body on instagram getting lipo when i came out
Starting point is 00:42:40 i'm not trying to flip it when i came out and said hey you'm not trying to flip it. When I came out and said, hey, you guys, some of your favorite rappers may be getting lipo. Y'all said, shut the fuck up, hater. It's not a big deal. I didn't say that. That's what niggas said. I said it's not a big deal. Yes. All of you said that. And now y'all want to clown Flex for taking the sides off? Fam, just go to the gym. Getting a little fat out the armpit? Just go to the gym. There's not an armpit machine in there.
Starting point is 00:43:11 It is. It is. There is. Yeah, there is. There is. I wouldn't know. I'm not going. Because you're getting the lipos.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Listen, do y'all have any thoughts on this that we need? This is absolutely nuts. This is bonkers? This is nuts. This is bonkers. This is nuts. This is crazy. This is one of those, and I know people were looking forward to a segment from us on this. This is fucking wild. It's too easy.
Starting point is 00:43:32 I just want to leave it alone. Stop looking for segments from us on shit. Yeah, this one was too easy. Just go to the gym, man. Or if you want to get a procedure done, don't post it. Just don't post it. Yeah. If you want to go get lipo, that's your business.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Yeah. Yeah, it's your business, but still, just go to the gym, man. Like, come on. Well, Mo, there's been some rumblings of the amount of weight you lost so quickly. And you said you've been in the house. I just changed my diet, bro. That's all I did. Just changed my diet.
Starting point is 00:43:59 If you're calling Flex, this is the greatest podcast of all time. Flex is at the Wellness Center recovering. Cannot answer the phone. They take your phone from you. He's busy deleting his old photos off IG. Yeah, they put you in a quiet room. They have like waterfalls. I just want to know if Flex was teased about it.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I just want to know if Flex was teased about his curves. They put hot stones under your feet. You can't answer his phone right now. They don't want no radiation in the room. He's on the table. Yeah. He's at the wellness center. No radiation.
Starting point is 00:44:28 He's got his butt vacuumed like... Edit the name. He caught it. Y'all ain't never turn on the gram. Look, that's the TV now. Turn on the gram.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Turn on the gram. Y'all ain't never turn on the gram. Look, that's the TV now. Turn on the gram. Turn on the gram. Y'all ain't never turn on the gram and see your old work in a butt vacuum. Listen. Look, all right, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. It's cool. Only my old bitches was getting their butt vacuumed in Englewood. Isn't that where Rory got done last week?
Starting point is 00:45:02 Nice shot. That was a solid shot. Rory got his butt vacuumed. Been back ever since. Been back every day. By the way. First name basis at the butt masseuse. Right after I saw the Ian Design merch,
Starting point is 00:45:20 I get a call from Keeb to talk to me about my ass. I love you, Keeb, and I appreciate it. It was just a lot of- Did he give you some ass advice? It was a lot of management at one time. Keeb was like, just gotta breathe. He was managing your ass? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:37 He's trying to take 20%. Roy, you got the Butt Masseuse app on your phone? They have one? All right, I'm out. Well, Roy, we get excited. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. Stay home? We I mean, I can stay home.
Starting point is 00:45:45 We done. We done. I don't have to sit on this donut anymore. I, for one, want to support Funk Flex and his body
Starting point is 00:45:53 transformation. You about to get it done? No. I'm already slimmed down. Listen, man, Tyler, the creator, had a point. He's leading up
Starting point is 00:46:04 to a joke right now. No, that was it. That's a joke. That's leading up to a joke right now. No, that was it. That's a joke. That's one you have to research. Or you can't. You can't say that, can you? Tyler out there bagging all the rappers too. It's just like,
Starting point is 00:46:22 why do you just go that far with Tyler? All right, come on, let's move on do you just Alright come on let's move on Let's move on What music came out None Alright Tyler Back to these niggas Well let's get all the guys
Starting point is 00:46:33 About the way A$AP Rocky's dating Rihanna Surprise Oh they back together Ta-da Okay Good for them Awesome
Starting point is 00:46:40 Yeah Alright Killed that Deep dive The Kings Alright what else is here? No Ceilings 3. It's here. Classic. Got your lighter. Should have went triple. Lil Wayne, this was a dat piff release, right? It was, which I appreciated. I like that. Let's do mixtapes again. Please. Let's make shit sort of free.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Who's doing mixtapes again? Nobody, Let's make shit sort of free. Who's doing mixtapes again? Nobody, but Wayne is. I didn't listen to this. And I like, yeah, rap on other people's beats. Remember when that was a thing? For two decades? I didn't listen to this. It disappeared right away.
Starting point is 00:47:18 I didn't go to Dat Piff and download it, number one. Number two, I'm not all the way over all of those uh racism doesn't exist statements from wayne but and i don't assume that that to be addressed on a freestyle nor was it why i would go listen to this did you listen oh yeah i did how is it well give us a hot take yeah break it down i like it track by track it's like how's the sequencing uh sequencing was good was it? Well, give us a hot take. Yeah, break it down. I like it. Track by track. How was the sequencing? Sequencing was good. Was it digestible? I really enjoyed the interludes. No, it was cool. Wayne is still in shape. Yo, we don't listen to none of y'all projects
Starting point is 00:47:59 that come out. I'm tired of tap dancing around it. Twice a week we don't hear y'all. No, we listen to it. I listen to it. I don't know if you've noticed the trend. It's just too much music, man. It's just a lot. But there's some records on there. There's some good records on there.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Oh, you used to do them all? Yeah, I do. But I just hate that I got to go to Dat Piff. I even have the Dat Piff app. I do too. So I would listen to it. Yeah, when it's not centralized somewhere i forget yeah but there's some records on there obviously the drake the bb king freestyle is the standout record
Starting point is 00:48:31 what what i'm agreeing with the takes oh yeah no there's some records on there i don't want to seem like we don't listen i listen so it's just too much like 20 tracks it's just a lot of music but wayne is obviously still in shape he's still one of the best rappers in the world um Corey Gunz the three headed goat joint was hard
Starting point is 00:48:51 yeah like that one it's some joints on there it's a lot of rapping yeah I forgot I forgot it came up I'm about to download it I don't think you can download it
Starting point is 00:49:01 oh really yeah I tried to and they said no stream this. Yeah, you just got to open the app, that Piff app, and listen to it. That's all that's using on Apple yet. Anyways, A$AP Rocky and Rihanna.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Did you not even hear the BB King freestyle? Joe, you completely ignored No Ceilings 3? I don't listen to rap music. Okay. That's my take. Fair enough. Leave me alone about it. Do't listen to rap music okay that's my take fair enough leave me alone every week i come in here to joke with my friends no i didn't hear it yeah i didn't hear i'll go listen though they both killed that they both killed that wayne and drake got over would you like to hear a taste yeah give us a little sample, everybody. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Hey, the blues is now kicking and dinner is three Michelin. I don't eat red meat, but still got beef sizzling. Know that I need discipline. I keep singing for all these hoes. They keep listening. Niggas love to brawl with the boy and that fizzes, but we are not equivalent, dog. I've been the only child, don't need siblings, and I'm past them like the times that he's living in okay man everyone is always a bear you be like he's sick in it if you know what this
Starting point is 00:50:15 guy not gonna keep kicking no see what's calendar whoa okay wait wait it's caliber winding for me hey yeah all right like the real mixtape vibe Khaled did this. Whoa. Wait. Wait. Is Khaled rewinding for me? Yes. It gave like the real mixtape vibe. Remember how the mixtape used to be? Yeah, but on that joint, just let it play.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Are you just going to hear it go off? I wasn't mad at that. That's one of those I don't need the DJ. Trying to pawn the replay. Yeah, you hating on DJ culture. Yeah, it's mixtape. I'm not mad at that that I think there's some songs on a mixtape
Starting point is 00:50:47 where you can just let it play no pawn the replay no more fire like just you wanna heal up wheel up listen that's not a new thing
Starting point is 00:50:55 for me I was even mad on moon music like on point shut the fuck up I used to be mad at all the niggas that is the mixtape
Starting point is 00:51:02 standard though clue stop shouting out the Coliseum. I missed the bar. Let the locks play. I can't hear the bar. Let the locks play. Yeah, but that record is hard.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Just shout out the Coliseum. The fuck? Hardest Jadakiss bar ever. Shout out the Coliseum. But that sounded real good. I need to go get that. Wayne killed that shit. I heard another Drake snippet leak.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Did you guys hear that one? Well, you know the Drake record we have that we talked about but couldn't play? Yeah. That's the same flow. So when that came on, I was like, alright, is this the new Drake flow? One of his new ones, I guess. Did y'all like that flow?
Starting point is 00:51:41 I like it on that, and I like it on that other song. So I'm going to say two for two. I'm done. I'm done critiquing Drake flows. Why? Finished. Well,
Starting point is 00:51:50 he did seven records. It's because it's a trick. You know the irony about you going off on that Views record? That was Views that you went off on about, right?
Starting point is 00:51:57 Yeah. Great album. The more I listen to that album, that might be Drake's best album. Sorry, stop right here. It's a big hot take.
Starting point is 00:52:05 I like his views. Views aged really well. Okay. Listen to that album. I did. It's like, it's records for everybody on that album. It's not Drake's best project.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Okay. Sorry. So you don't count so far going in this? I feel like we do this once a year, so I'm not doing this. I think we just did this like three years ago. I just feel like as time went on, the Views album
Starting point is 00:52:26 this is like a really really good album like complete top to bottom album yeah I agree I just don't think it's his best but yeah
Starting point is 00:52:34 I agree with that like there's all kinds of records on this shit like records that other artists would be like yes I would take that and put that on
Starting point is 00:52:43 I'm talking about not just rappers all types of artists I've already come on here and say that i was and said i was wrong about that no no we i know that i don't want to keep repeating how i'm just saying that you was mad about that is that now that i listen to this this might be his best album i don't i don't want to judge drake flows anymore because it's a trick like like 40 or somebody comes up with a beat they invent a pocket he fucking spaces out words invent some new shit and the first time you hear it it tricks your ears into saying man get this bullshit the fuck out of here and then six months later it's the flow for the next
Starting point is 00:53:20 decade everyone's using it yeah so i'm not doing that anymore. Reasonable. He tried to get me on that little snippet that came out with the weird flow. I heard Drake got a little project coming soon. You mean the album he's been promoting? Dropping in January that he's been promoting?
Starting point is 00:53:38 That he set a date for? No, something before his album. Oh, like a four-pack, two-pack? You must have been in LA No He must have sent you A little note with your candle Drake didn't send me a candle
Starting point is 00:53:51 Yes he did No he didn't He didn't send me a candle You want one You got the Drake fragrances Drake sent you a hat With a lipstick stain on it No
Starting point is 00:53:58 Did you see the little Press release that came out That said the Drake candle Smells like Drake That's kind of swag though I wouldn't even hate on that You want that You want to smell Drake When you go to came out that said the Drake candle smells like Drake. That's kind of swag, though. I wouldn't even hate on that. You want that?
Starting point is 00:54:08 You want to smell Drake when you go to bed? You want to smell Drake before you go to bed? Spray it on your pillows. Joe and Wads for the night to light the Drake Cine Can. Imagine lighting that and Shorty walking in your crib like, that smells familiar. What is that? I can't put it together. But I know that smell.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Nah, I know what chicks to invite over if I want to smell some drink. Yo, that's funny. Slaps knee. Ta-da! Alright, what else is important? Nothing? Great. Let's get right back to Mace versus Cam
Starting point is 00:54:45 and instigate some great shit for New York hip-hop because we're a biased New York podcast. I like it. Big facts. Cam was on that... That song was called Dipset. Yes, the leader of Dipset. He was on there, right?
Starting point is 00:55:06 Well, I only get confused because I think there's like four records called Dipset Anthem. Like I call Dipset, Dipset, Dipset. I call that Dipset Anthem. No, it's not. What's that called? I don't know. Dipset Anthem. Might just be Dipset.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Might be just Dipset, yeah. Listen. It wasn't the Anthem. So if that Dipset Anthem record comes on, Which is one of the hardest records ever made in New York history That's true Mase got nothing for that That was one Alright so now what do you do when Niggas Don't Start Something comes on?
Starting point is 00:55:32 I really mean it Mase is on that record No no no In response to that record He just said I really mean it No no No I'm saying Niggas Don't Start Something versus Dipset Anthem
Starting point is 00:55:40 Who gets that point? Dipset Anthem Dipset yeah I'm 30 though So don't mind me Maul Dipset Anthem I think Dipset Anthem. Who gets that point? Dipset Anthem. I'm 30 though, so don't mind me. Maul? Dipset Anthem. I think Dipset Anthem respectfully beats anything in Mace Place. And the more
Starting point is 00:55:51 I thought about it when we took a quick break, I got Cam beating just a lot of people, period. Not just Mace. Cam might be crazy in a versus. Yeah. Yeah. Cam got wrecked. I don't think a lot of people want to see Cam he is our New York Gucci he's also hilarious
Starting point is 00:56:07 so that works well I actually think Jimmy is more that but that's just me I'm gonna get someone on the phone today someone will answer me
Starting point is 00:56:17 come on man let's instigate this thing come on buddy give me something good I think New York needs this this thing. Come on, buddy. Give me something good. I think New York needs this. I'm going to work on this behind the scenes. I don't think they would agree to that.
Starting point is 00:56:37 I don't think it would happen. Where were they at after their back and forth with those two records? I don't think they've spoken since. Come on, Maul. Give us the Harlem politics. Peace this up for us. I'm only saying this because I asked Mace that this morning on the chatty.
Starting point is 00:56:52 He says no. Wait, Mace is on the chatty? Mace is on the chatty. I was supposed to do his welcome room, but I forgot. His welcome room. They hired you for that? Did you play Welcome Back? Did they hire you for that?
Starting point is 00:57:03 Yo, some of us are going to have to start coming up with fees on these new fucking apps. Like, y'all are calling for me to host these rooms. I don't know what that shit costs. Right. Yeah. Don't try to fucking fool me back into walkthrough money. That being the new walkthrough is hilarious. Yo, these niggas be trying to trick you in their walkthrough bag right now.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Look, now this club be packed. I got three grand for you, all right, but what's the capacity? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, when artists learn how to ask what's the cap? Nah, it's 10,000, but expenses. Yeah, I know. It's always expensive. You don't know where our overhead is.
Starting point is 00:57:40 You're going to take an L booking me in this 10,000. You're going to lose, but I'm going this 10,000. You're going to lose, but I'm going to do my best. I'm the expense. Damn, man. Now I want to see this. All right, off of this. Off of this,
Starting point is 00:57:52 because I'm going to get emotionally invested. Look at Maul's brother and everything. And Maul. Maul, take some credit for your contributions to hip hop, man.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Were you in this video, Maul? I'm not even being, I'm not even joking. No, I was home. Okay. All right, what else is important? Here we go. Let's have a real man discussion here. For men, when the only safe space is left for us.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Sometimes as men, when we evolve, when we mature, when we grow up, adulting, we stop being children, our taste in women may change, right? Finally gave up the bartenders. You don't like cartoon characters anymore?
Starting point is 00:58:41 You know, sometimes I just be trying to generalize things. And you guys find a way to zoom in right back in the Joe. Yeah, but no. Take that, Parks. Maybe I don't like the cartoon characters anymore. You don't like Flex? You got a shake on him now?
Starting point is 00:59:02 That was a good one. They're going to walk into the surgeon and get the flex package what waste those little freestyle bids will never be the same oh my god you gonna be standing up
Starting point is 00:59:16 in them shits now you gonna be sitting there giving the verse of your life you gonna stand up show you the sides flex I'm kidding comedy style comedy style listen sometimes as men You're going to be sitting there giving the verse of your life. You're going to stand up, show you the sides. Flex, I'm kidding. Comedy style, comedy style.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Listen, sometimes as men, you grow up and your taste in women changes, which is awesome. You broaden the scope and it's a beautiful thing. Until you run into a situation like Maul and myself have run into recently, where now him and I seem to be bumping into each other quite a bit in the romance streets i've witnessed a few times i'm not even romancing no you ronnie romance no i'm not you are i'm by what hitting the like button you know what you're doing devil john i'm just trying to understand what you. I'm saying that we've been seeing more and more of one another. On Instagram? In the comments. With women.
Starting point is 01:00:10 We've been bumping into some of this. We think some of the same women are flying. Well, you've admitted that you went to my followers or who I was following, and you started following a few people. I never said that. Yes, you did. I never said that. Yes, you did.
Starting point is 01:00:24 No, I do not need to do that. 100% said that. What is he talking about? Yes, you have said that Yes you did 100% said that What is he talking about? Yes you have said that I was lying But wait you never did that with me? No You've said that before Yo if you're the only one that gets to lie on this podcast
Starting point is 01:00:40 I'll quit the pod I have not done that to you I'm being honest I will start a new pod Joe quit that pod I'm telling you I haven not done that to you. I'm being honest. I will start a new pod. Joe, quit that pod. I'm telling you, I haven't done that. We know some of the same people. No, no.
Starting point is 01:00:51 We want to fucking... We want to penetrate some of the same infrastructures. How does that make you feel? Come on, man. What's that adjective? She's for the streets? I'm not going to say all of that. That's where that led me Parks
Starting point is 01:01:06 Mo has been on this podcast Before saying If it's not his It's for the streets Yeah if it's not my girl It's for the streets Which is why I never say that And I happen to be
Starting point is 01:01:14 Part of the streets It's really simple Joe See where I'm going here Come on It's really simple It's always the woman's choice If she decides She wants to fuck With a friend of always the woman's choice If she decides She wants to fuck
Starting point is 01:01:25 With a friend of mine That's her choice If she decides She wants to fuck With a relative of mine That's her choice It's a bunch of y'all Getting pussy now
Starting point is 01:01:33 Off of it's a woman's choice It is though The pandering The pandering Technique is getting A lot outplayed But it is though That's why we
Starting point is 01:01:41 Her body Her choice It's the truth It is the truth So what the fuck You weird niggas Gotta keep think pie. Her body, her choice. It's the truth. That's what we want. It is the truth. So what the fuck you weird niggas got to keep think piecing it about. Yes, it's the truth. Her body, her choice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:51 No, that's all I'm saying. So if I. Can we help the choice? If I dated someone. Can we lead her to the right choice? I only don't kick your back in the DMs with these women is because I don't know if you're doing it to me on the other end, so I'll leave it alone. I don't get down like that.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Oh, good, and I'm on it. I don't even talk about other guys. If I know that a girl that I'm talking to knows a guy that I know, I won't even bring him up. I don't talk about him. Do you think that you could be in a polyurethane relationship with me and one of the girls that we like? What does that mean? Polyurethane? Except you stand at the table and you want it to like what does that mean polyurethane except
Starting point is 01:02:25 you stay in the table and you want to like shine you put the polyurethane polyuramist polyurination i don't know what that means you know the word come on yeah it's when you're in a committed relationship with with other like mad people yeah like you and joe would date the same one could could me you and a young lady be in a relationship together? Specifically the one that we all like. You guys gonna live together? That's weird as fuck. Hell no.
Starting point is 01:02:50 You guys have bunk beds? Your mom thinks everything is weird. Me? That's weird, bro. It wouldn't be weird because you would be the mixie boyfriend out and about.
Starting point is 01:02:59 How? And hopefully I would be home and you would go home and you'd drop her off to me. But what if mom was like tired and wants to spend the night too? No. Listen, you can't put a price on. All right, nigga, go in the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:03:11 All right. Go put a towel down and lay down. Nah, I can't date nobody. I can't date a woman that my homeboy is dating. I can't do that. No, you're dating her together. Yeah. Nah.
Starting point is 01:03:23 That's not our culture. You can't put a price on convenience. You guys work together. You're in business together. I don't think our culture does that. Whose culture do it? Take this to the next level. That's the whites.
Starting point is 01:03:32 You guys could split our bills. I don't think the whites do that either. There's a whole show where the whites are doing that. What are you talking about? I'm not him. Yeah, we don't do that. That's not our culture. Oh, do y'all want to get into shows now?
Starting point is 01:03:42 Not the whites. Shows. Whites analysis. They're taking The Office off Netflix. Yeah. Peacock. Oh, The Office. want to get into uh do y'all want to get into shows now not the whites shows whites analysis they're taking the office off netflix yeah peacock oh because nbc is doing this steve carell did his chapelle shit yeah he went on ig and said don't stream my shit it's heading over to the cock okay to where the cock nbc oh gotcha all right right. But I mean... Thoughts on it? Anything? The cock is going to be a force to be reckoned with. It's not called the cock, right?
Starting point is 01:04:09 It's the peacock. Peacock. And that's NBC, all NBC shit. Yeah. They got all the shows, though. I was a St. Peter's peacock. We don't care where. That was the mascot of my college.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Pussy. Joe, you lived down the block. Relax. You was a peacock of Jace. The Office is a classic show But I think if you watch All of them twice That's enough I've seen them all six times
Starting point is 01:04:30 And still not enough Oh you like to keep What Yeah The Office is great The Office and Seinfeld I can watch whatever Curb is better than Seinfeld
Starting point is 01:04:39 Hot take This is white things Curb I can also We can move on We can move on I don't want to lose the point That the pandering men thing is getting a little outdated. That's all. Pandering men?
Starting point is 01:04:48 Eh. And I'm sick of Netflix giving me these fucking British shows with the voiceover dub. Netflix has been slipping. I'm not going to lie. Netflix has been slipping for them to raise the subscription fee a month. Yeah, it's like $18 now.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Oh. I don't know if I's like $18 now. Oh. I don't know if I got the 18 for you anymore. 18 is aggressive. It's a little aggressive. Yeah, they slowly... Especially if the cock is $7.99. Yeah, they're slowly getting to that $20, that even dub. Listen, I pay $25 a month
Starting point is 01:05:19 for some chick called Betty Boop. What's that? That's just an OnlyFans. It's a porn site? It's an OnlyFans. I got that page. It was like, the 25 is aggressive,
Starting point is 01:05:28 but... She looks great. I might have a buck 50 going out on OnlyFans a month. And be mad when bitches don't upload some shit. I check every morning.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Like, ah. Oh, come on. White. Check out my new content for $20. I'll be like, like Oh why she ain't Holding in a while Come on
Starting point is 01:05:48 Give me something But that's gotta be Like really disappointing When you pay $25 And it just be her IG pictures Or her sucking her man dick Or her ex
Starting point is 01:05:58 And she wants me To send you a little text About it Hey Really going to work On John bitch I don't give a fuck About, really going to work on John, bitch. I don't give a fuck about John. Really going to work on John.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Yeah, what are you DMing me about this for? Oh, man. Is there anything else that we have to... Oh, Netflix being trash. We did that. Netflix is raising the price of its most popular plan to $14 today. Premium tier increasing to $18.
Starting point is 01:06:21 What is the difference on Netflix between premium and regular? Maybe the premium has good shit because the regular does not currently. Might be the difference between Netflix between premium and regular? Maybe the premium has good shit because the regular does not currently. Might be the difference between Pornhub and Pornhub Premium.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Higher quality. Who has Pornhub Premium? Longer vids. Who would have that? Weirdos. Damn, man. Bring Bang Bros back while we at it too, man.
Starting point is 01:06:42 I gave y'all the password. They're fans of the pod. They came to the Miami show. I think it stopped working. No, it works. Still? I mean. I ain't need the password.
Starting point is 01:06:50 I'm 30 seconds of shorty catching the bus was enough for me. Yo, you got to relax. Hey. You be ready, ready. No. You be ready, ready. I'd be buying into Bang Bros like this shit was Santa Claus. Like, how do they keep picking up these girls off the street
Starting point is 01:07:06 and fucking them in a van? How dope are they? Jesus, all they say is, hey, you want to come in the van? And they just get in. Yeah, give me 30 seconds to hitchhike it. And I'm cool. That's funny. Those chicks in those videos
Starting point is 01:07:22 be like, no, I would never do that for about Two seconds Like Fine Shout out to all the beautiful ladies Listening from all over the world Yeah we love you We here for y'all
Starting point is 01:07:33 And porn stars That get in the vans to fuck Yes we love you more When was the last time Y'all fucked in a car It's been a long time Years Car sex is horrible
Starting point is 01:07:41 It's over for that right What Yeah After a certain age It's like man listen We going to the house Alright what do y'all want to talk about Soul Train Awards or mulatto gate I didn't even see this whole train or so you know do y'all know it's our responsibility to talk well that's why you're part of the problem I didn't say that either but you're gonna watch the Grammys I'm not
Starting point is 01:08:02 watching the great just talking wrap the Soul Train Awards from what I saw Will Smith could never from what I saw they had some really good performances and it seemed like a few of the right people won and it seemed like
Starting point is 01:08:13 a lot of people enjoyed not only enjoyed the event but supported the event more this year than I've seen in recent years with the exception of last year are the Soul Train Awards attempting to make a
Starting point is 01:08:25 resurgence or or or are we the people attempting to make a resurgence i think it's a little bit of both yeah i think a little bit of both at this point i would like to see anything about the grammys i just think a lot of people feel like that. Soul Train Awards fit more of the music that we champion. Yeah. Yeah. More popular music. And I don't know what their system of voting is, but the Grammys is terrible. We say all this, man, but then you'll go and talk to each and every artist, and you'll get half of them to say, I really like the Grammys.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Nah, I'm not rolling. I'm going to stay over here where they like me where I have someone on the board well because the Grammy for years has been the award as an artist that you aimed for you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:09:11 like that is the award but now if we change that narrative and we make it like the Soul Train Award is the award that you aimed for as a black artist then you know
Starting point is 01:09:20 that's what it is let me see some of the performances I know Snow was there I saw her I saw Brandy there and what I didn't like oh that's what it is let me see some of the performances I know Snow was there I saw her I saw Brandy there and what I didn't like oh that's gotta be awkward
Starting point is 01:09:29 was there was a there was a man Brandy and Snow there was a successful man on Instagram that congratulated her with this long diatribe that made me think
Starting point is 01:09:38 that he might have been bae I didn't even finish reading it didn't even get through it that was John from OnlyFans whoever it was he was John from OnlyFans. Whoever it was, he was going a little too hard in the caption. I said, ah, it's over for me. Damn.
Starting point is 01:09:51 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Get him next time. I mean, sometimes you got to wait it out. Tell him the dude is more efficient to see when the girl he wants got away. Just got to throw that rod back out there, buddy. That's it. Who else performed?
Starting point is 01:10:08 Snow performed. PJ Morton. Holy shit. Stokely performed with Shantae Moore, Shanice, and PJ Morton. Mm-hmm. Soul Train Cypher. What was I doing? It's a cypher right there. And I didn't come in here and give it up properly on the cypher that Brandy and them did at the BET Hip Hop.
Starting point is 01:10:25 I didn't give it up properly. They killed that. No, it was really good. They did kill that. They killed that. They all killed it. Yeah. And each time I was waiting for one of the verses to be subpar, they weren't.
Starting point is 01:10:34 I wonder if they all wrote their parts. I don't care because they performed shit effortlessly. Yeah, they killed that. I'd like to see more of that. They should continue that. Tiana killed that. They all did. Her did.
Starting point is 01:10:45 PJ Morton, I love you, man. I see what you're doing. You should come to this show. Yeah. They should continue that. Tiana killed that. They all did. Her did. PJ Morton, I love you, man. I see what you're doing. You should come to this show. Yeah, that's my guy. Yeah, come to our gospel show. Never would have made it. That's my shit, though.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Oh, the Bieber version? No, PJ Morton's. He has a version of that? Yeah. That's like one of the most popular gospel songs of all time. Yeah, he should have. His's like one of the most popular gospel songs of all time. Yeah, he should have. His father is one of the biggest pastors in New Orleans.
Starting point is 01:11:09 He should have. There's about seven versions of PJ Morton doing that. PJ Morton's the man. Come up here. Yeah, it's my guy. Shout out to PJ. Let's see. Song of the Year.
Starting point is 01:11:16 The winner, Chris Brown and Young Thug. Go crazy. How y'all feel about it? I like it. Sure. I like it. Sure. I would have been my first choice, but I'm not mad at it either.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Still on the Summer Walker snub train, but it's cool. Me too. I like that. That come through record can win in this category for me. Big record. They gave her album of the year. Album of the year, Summer Walker, over it. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Over the weekend, Jhene, Chris Brown, Chloe Ailey, and Brandy. I'm not mad. Video of the year, Beyonce, Blue Ivy, St. John, Wizkaley, and Brandy. I'm not mad. Video of the year. Beyonce, Blue Ivy, St. John, Wizkid, Brown Skin Girl. I like that a lot. That's from the little movie thing, right? I mean, it was just the Lion King. Look at Parks about to get mad. Look at Parks about to get mad. Best R&B soul female artist.
Starting point is 01:11:56 You guessed it, Parks. Her. Take that. She is probably the best R&B soul. That's what I told you last week when you said she keeps racking up nominations. Did she have a project on this year? No, but it don't soul. That's what I told you last week when you said she keeps racking up nominations. Did she have a project on this year? No, but it don't matter. It's her. Did you see her at the Roots picnic?
Starting point is 01:12:12 No, actually I didn't. Y'all let Janelle Monáe perform every year for the past 15 years without an album. So I don't want to hear when her does the same thing. That's not true. Whatever. She pulled it out last year. And that was good. It was really good.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Yeah, she's dope. Got it. Best collaboration. Winner again, Chris Brown featuring Young Thug Go Crazy. Yeah, Chris Brown had quite a day. Yeah, and he won Best R&B Soul Mail Artist, Chris Brown. He should win that every time. No disrespect to everyone else nominated.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Best New Artist, Snow Allegra. You know the vibes. Oh, go back, the vibes oh go back go back go back because that category was gibby on late and green lon or i don't know i'm not familiar with them saint john and victoria monet i would like victoria monet there only because snow to me is not a new artist neither is victoria moneta right well as artists artists got it you know artists yeah rhythm andars what the fuck is that R&B
Starting point is 01:13:06 a flip Rhythm and Bars yeah I'm not mad at it R&B is bars now oh this is like this is like when the Grammys
Starting point is 01:13:13 when the Grammys introduced Melodic Best Melodic right yeah you gotta change with the times I like Rhythm and Bars
Starting point is 01:13:19 you was clowning it I don't think it's fine and I like it because it's another category that gives an artist actually a chance to win a chance to win
Starting point is 01:13:24 a chance to win a chance to win a chance to win a chance to win a chance to win a chance category that gives an artist actually a chance to win. A chance to win. Cardi, the winner of this is Magna Stallion's Savage. See, but this is where I have an issue with Rhythm and Bars. What's Rhythm on that record? On which one? Come on, man. On Savage? That's not right.
Starting point is 01:13:39 You know what they mean by Rhythm and Bars. They mean the Melodic shit. What's Melodic on Savage? I could see the remix. Beyonce definitely did Rhythm and Bars on her verse. True. It doesn't say the remix, which it I could see the remix. Beyonce definitely did rhythm and bars on her verse. True. It doesn't say the remix, which it normally does if the remix won. It's rhythm.
Starting point is 01:13:51 It's not melody and bars. It's rhythm. I mean, come on. They did this on TikTok. So it's anything with a metronaut. Yeah. Yeah. Anything with a four count.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Yeah. Answer me this. Was she on beat? Yes. Well, there you go. Which is rhythm. And was she rapping bars? She had bars. All right.
Starting point is 01:14:11 All right. That's it. Got it. I got it. Hey, listen. Best gospel inspirational award. Body Rich the Box needs to win rhythm and bars.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Let's just make that clear. Yeah, I'm not mad at him. But is it there? Was he nominated? Yeah. Yeah, he was nominated. Best dance performance, Chris Brown and Young Thug Go Crazy. He really racked up.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Best gospel inspirational award, Kirk Franklin. Okay. Soul Train Certified Award, Brandy. Yes, Queen. That's a rich. Yes, Queen. I'm not back on the PJ Morton thing, but PJ put out two amazing gospel albums within the time that that could have happened. Just don't give it to Kurt because Kurt always gets the gospel awards.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Yeah, Kurt is the bar for gospel. PJ is bodying that genre right now. Soul Train Certified Award, Brandy. We did that. The Ashford and Simpson Songwriters Award. Black Parade written by mad people. Okay. Oh, there's more?
Starting point is 01:15:04 No, the bold one is the only one. It was her. Yeah, I Can't Breathe. Oh, got it, got it. I Can't Breathe, written by her, written by Summer Walker, Bryson Tiller, London Holmes, Kendall, Brock Bailey, Cameron Griffin. All right, a lot of people. A lot of people.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Latoya Luckett? Beyonce's on there, too. Wait, hold on. Wait. Let's get into it. What is I Can't Breathe? That's the Summer Walker, Bryson Tiller record. All right, well, where's the Beyonce? in there too. Wait, hold on. Wait. Let's get into it. What is I can't? I can't breathe. They must have sampled something. That's the Summer Walk
Starting point is 01:15:26 of Bryson Tilling record. All right, well, where's the Beyonce version of it? They probably sampled something. And where's... Got it. Yeah, because that's why those people would be there.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Oh, yeah, no. I see Destiny's Child all through this. So, yeah, it must be the same. I need to re-hear that song. Yeah, they did it at Coachella. Except for without the other two. Scream and continue to scroll, please. And that is all of it. song yeah they did at coachella except for with the other without the other two screaming continue
Starting point is 01:15:45 to scroll please i think and that is all of it damn i will go back and watch the soul training wars now yeah i'll probably watch it i heard it was really good shit though the nominees seem great and the winners seem great i don't have anything negative to say i was just busy that night um so i will go back and watch that. Congratulations to all the winners. Congratulations and shout out to all the performers. And I would like to see, if we're not going to get our own award show or create one and make up one, then I'm totally down for all of us getting together
Starting point is 01:16:17 to support the only black, truly black award show that we have left. Shout out Soul Train Awards. Yeah, I'm train awards yeah i'm with that i'm with that so that would be nice right yeah soul train awards you see our biggest guy you see hobe and drake and cole and kendrick and summer i would be there yeah that's important i'm culture now what would you wear look now these niggas want to let me be culture. He's so funny. 12 years I was trying to do it. Now they're like, nah, bring Joe. I appreciate your maturity because I can see the resentment.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Like, all right, man, now y'all like me? It's a valid reason to have resentment, right? What else? What else? What else? Soul Train Awards. We did the greatest fight card in the world. That Jasmine Sullivan album. a valid reason to have resentment right um what else what else what else soul train awards we did the greatest fight card in the world that jasmine sullivan album i'm just predicting might be i haven't heard a thing outside of the record she's released but which she is on that two for two is
Starting point is 01:17:16 a different two for two yeah oh this album might be nuts rory definitely spoke to jasmine last i wish jasmine please call me i'm putting out an album together. You want Jasmine on your album. I would love. I actually have a verse open right now. When does her album schedule to slated to drop? I don't know when it's slated. Slated. You haven't seen the slate lately? I hope she doesn't put something out with non-original music.
Starting point is 01:17:40 I don't know what that means. I'm just playing with Rory saying non-original music. That's it. I have no idea what that means either. We don't know when that drops.'m just playing with Rory Saying non-original music That's it I have no idea What that means either We don't know When that drops Cool
Starting point is 01:17:48 What's coming out Friday? That's a good question We don't know shit anymore That's a fact We'll know Thursday What are the powers That be doing to us? It's hard to find out
Starting point is 01:18:00 When artists Like we even Even on days That shit drop We find artists That we didn't know Was dropping Facts.
Starting point is 01:18:06 I'm real happy with that Jim Deluxe. I know I said I was going to get into that last week. I did. I'm real happy with it. I was also really shocked
Starting point is 01:18:13 to see that when the 19th song went off, the old album came on. Yeah. So. And just reminded you how good the first one was. I didn't even realize
Starting point is 01:18:21 I was in that shower so long until my skin was on the floor. Rock Marcy came out on streaming services. It was previously. Yo, don't interrupt Park's brain, all right? Specifically on his website. Yeah, but now it's on streaming services. They got to ref a Long Island, man.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Yeah, I'm happy for Rock Marciano, too, because he's been one of the dudes for a long time that's been keeping that boom bap hip hop alive. It's just dope to see him finally being recognized by the masses. You think Rock is boom bap? I thought that was more rhythm and bars.
Starting point is 01:18:57 It's not really boom bap. It's not boom bap, but it's... It's grimy. Yeah. Shout out to Rock. Rhythm and grime. There. Yeah. Shout out to Rock. Rhythm and grime. There you go. R&G.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Oh, no, wait. Grime is now a genre. Never mind. Rhythm and coke. No. There's a lot of cocaine references on there. We can have a conference tomorrow. We'll go back to the table.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Rhythm and... Allegedly. It's fine. What do you mean allegedly? All right, so there's no music to get to. There's no fashion. I know. Because we're the fashion podcast.
Starting point is 01:19:33 No, we're not the fashion podcast. I think we would slay the Soul Train Awards as a crew. Yeah, but we're not going to get into that. Let me see what else. I still haven't received my BET award. What else is important? A few of y'all hit me and wanted to talk about somebody twerking in a restaurant somewhere I'm not doing it oh oh yeah that was the talk of the timeline for 48 hours and I don't know I was really late to
Starting point is 01:19:53 the party and I was only late to the party because typically as the internet does they said it was Joe that was so angry at the restaurant and I clicked it and it indeed looked like Joe oh I did see that the owner of the restaurant was telling him he didn't he was cursing people restaurant and I clicked it and it indeed looked like Joe. Oh, I did see that. The owner of the restaurant was telling him he didn't want to twerk. He was cursing people out or something. Yeah, he didn't want them twerking in his restaurant.
Starting point is 01:20:12 I mean, at this point, if you go to brunch, you got to know people are going to be twerking over your eggs. Yeah. Like, if you don't want that to happen, go at 11 a.m. Don't go at 4.30.
Starting point is 01:20:22 Play classical music. Yeah, that changes everything. That's another video I didn't even bother to watch. I didn't watch it either.m. Don't go at 4.30. Play classical music. Yeah, that changes everything. That's another video I didn't even bother to watch. I didn't watch it either. Yeah, a restaurant owner was very upset that he had people twerking at his fine establishment. He said he set up for the culture. I'm doing a much better job of just filtering some of the things that the internet tries to deliver to me. I'm trying to.
Starting point is 01:20:43 That's actually been the only good thing I've done in 2020. I'm so good at not watching things and blocking out things that I already know, anticipating, I know I'm not going to like that and just keep going. I've gotten good at that. This, though, is hilarious. Because that restaurant owner fan, just shut the fuck up. I respect that, though.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Because he's saying, like, yo, this just isn't that place. Well, then don't play music that people want to shake their ass to. No, I'm not wrong with that. I respect that, though. Right. Because he's saying like, yo, this just isn't that place. Well, then don't play music that people want to shake their ass to. No, I'm not wrong with that. I'm playing whatever I want. You should not get up and just twerk over eggs. I don't have to shake you. Again, I didn't see the video, so I don't know. I only saw the video of him reacting.
Starting point is 01:21:15 I didn't see the twerking. As a matter of fact, everyone looks like they're quietly sitting down. No, at this point, everybody was chilling. But before this, you know twerking is going to happen over some mimosas and eggs. And if you're playing music that is twerking. Wait, this is the video? Fam, alright. She's not doing a lot. Yeah, but he's saying
Starting point is 01:21:34 he don't want any of that. Like she's standing on something. Oh no, I understand that. Don't stand on my furniture. You can't do that at my Sunday brunch. Sorry. Yeah. I like what he said. He was like, yo, if you don't like it, then go somewhere else.
Starting point is 01:21:46 I don't need your money. I created this black-owned establishment so we can conduct ourselves a certain way here. And this is just what it is. I respect that. Of course I respect it, but I'm just saying that
Starting point is 01:21:57 if you play music that is going to elicit a certain response, people are going to respond that way. You don't always have to. It's just natural. Time and place. Time and place.
Starting point is 01:22:10 It always goes back to that. Time and place. All right, Moe, I might do the body challenge over your French toast. Deal with it. But it's just crazy that brunch became the thing
Starting point is 01:22:21 we're twerking. It's like, okay, it's brunch. The food is the secondary at brunch now. That's the funniest part about brunch now. I got nothing to do with food. Yeah, it doesn't. Just take pictures and twerk. Just seeing if this made anybody want to twerk around the pod.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Park said it's a natural reaction. It is a natural reaction. Basley's over here doing nothing but farting by my shoulder. This shit smells crazy over here. Yeah, no, she's a farter. Y'all want to get into the undoing? It happened. It happened.
Starting point is 01:22:46 It was undone. Some of the greatest writing. Mo knows the writer. No, I don't. It was, though. So how'd you feel? That shit had us feeling like, people were naming the son as a suspect.
Starting point is 01:22:59 I was. That just says it's great writing. Because at the end of it all, it was the person who it absolutely made the most sense to be. Or did we just give the writers way too much credit? Yeah, that the end of it all, it was the person who it absolutely made the most sense to me. Or did we just give the writers way too much credit? Yeah, that's what happened. No, it was brilliant writing.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Which I think we repeated multiple times throughout the series of, hey, I don't want to give the writers too much credit at this angle. Before the show started, when I made everybody in the living room guess who it is for a final time, I did say, man, what if it's just the dad?
Starting point is 01:23:22 What if we're thinking too deep here? Which is good writing, too. I'm not mad at that. Yeah, but it was a letdown for me. Oh, spoiler if it's just the dad? Like, what if we're thinking too deep here? Which is good writing, too. I'm not mad at that. Yeah, but it was a letdown for me. Oh, spoiler alert, it's the dad. Oh, if people didn't see it, they just, you know, it's too...
Starting point is 01:23:31 Well, some of them didn't. I thought it was... I think that is good writing. Even though it may be disappointing or whatever, we went on a journey, did we not? I still have another theory.
Starting point is 01:23:39 No, it was a great five and a half episodes. I thought the end scene was phenomenal. Oh, please, jump. Jump off the end scene was phenomenal. Oh, please. Jump. Jump off the bridge. Jump the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Are you kidding me? I didn't say that. That's Joe's mind. Tell yourself. I took my kid. I kidnapped my kid. I drove on a bridge. The cops were chasing me.
Starting point is 01:23:57 I hopped out. Hopped on there to jump and didn't jump. I would have loved to see him jump. Or I would have loved to see him jump or i would have or i would have loved to see him killed from the police i would have loved to see he's white i understand he can't jump because they just said that he doesn't feel remorse he doesn't feel anything i get it even that was great writing but so what man kill a nigga no it's part of it he doesn't feel he doesn't have you know i mean that that in him like so i like what things wait so then he was just supposed, he doesn't have, you know what I mean, that in him. So, I like when things just go the way
Starting point is 01:24:25 they're supposed to. So then he's just walking slowly toward his kid and his wife, Nicole, whatever her name was, Nicole,
Starting point is 01:24:31 Nicole, Nicole, wait, don't leave, nigga run, run after her. It's over, it's over.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Can I give you guys my new theory? Sure. Well, we saw the show. I have a new theory. Give it to me. I think the husband and wife were in cahoots because she was on his side the whole time until she got on the stand and they proved that he was psychotic and then he chose that behavior to make it look
Starting point is 01:24:57 like he really was to protect his wife from being caught no that's not we're sitting down no the whole thing was his wife all of a sudden his wife was uh all of a sudden he's really a psycho they prove it in court and then he reacts that way no no no that's what happened was the wife is a she's a psychiatrist so if when you think about it now the whole time she was really studying her husband throughout this whole process and she only really knew he did it when she saw that he was really trying to say the son might might have done it's like most girls and that's when it changed when she talked to her mom his mom i think it's no she was that was her still learning studying him uh but she knew when he tried to
Starting point is 01:25:35 flip it on the son she knew right then and there oh you did it oh now when he was buying artists uh buying art from this artist girlfriend he was fucking and bringing it home no clue huh what's this painting? No, but I'm just saying. Hey, where'd you get this from? She was saying that first. Oh, this is cause. Yeah, no, but at first she was saying that it's not in him.
Starting point is 01:25:54 She said it's not in him. She didn't think he was capable of that. Wait, cause is from Jersey, right? He is from Jersey City. All right, shout out to cause. Don't do that. Don't do that no more. Don't do that, me.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Don't do that again, me. Where's Bosque at from? Brooklyn. I thought it was Harlem. Bosque at the nigga that be selling y'all the broken shit and we go crazy? No. Who's that guy? Like, oh, I just paid 10 million and it broke, but it's great.
Starting point is 01:26:17 Amazon. Yo, what's up with this guy, man? Rory, what are you doing? i'm just miserable inside yeah amazon's great everyone's great subscribe uh but listen i enjoyed the undoing i'm a little i was a little low-key tight at the ending but not mad enough to just throw out all the fun i had watching six episodes great it was great man like i said we were naming all kind of suspects. Somebody even thought it was the girl that died's son that might have killed her.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Fam, I don't even like the kill. When they showed the murder scene, like the final scene, he wasn't even mad at none. Yo, don't tell my wife a thing. Oh, yeah, I will. Every girl has said that. You don't bang her head into the wall. Facts. Yeah, but you see he-
Starting point is 01:27:08 Wait, then he banged her head. Pause. Gazed in her eye. Banged it some more. She fought back not at once. She ain't trying to scratch his face. No, she grabbed the hammer. She tried to get him out of there.
Starting point is 01:27:17 Nigga was walking out the door. She grabbing the hammer to do what? Get killed. I was a little mad. That's it. I know Nicole Kidman's family came from money, but just hopping in the chopper
Starting point is 01:27:29 to follow the cop chopper was hilarious to me. Like, how you have a helicopter that readily available to just jump in with your whole crew? Like, yo, we all out. Now we'll get them.
Starting point is 01:27:41 And then you landed on a bridge. Listen, when he's escaping, when he's kidnapping his kid, and he's speeding, and the truck is coming, he's going through the intersection, and the kid is scared to death, looks like he's going to die, and he didn't, please tell me why the kid is still in the car from that point on.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Tell me. What do you want him to do? Stop, drop, and roll? I want him to do what I would want anybody I care about to do in that situation. Unlock the door and stop, drop, and roll out of the vehicle. It's 90 miles an hour or some shit? Just shut up, Joe. Shut up.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Shut the fuck up, man. Unlock the door. Joe wanted this shit to be die hard so bad. You want an 11 year old to unlock the door and stop, drop, and roll on a bridge going 80 miles an hour. What are you talking about? Only when my dad has been on a killing spree and now he. What are you talking about? Only when my dad
Starting point is 01:28:25 has been on a killing spree and now he's fucking AWOL from the court and he's kidnapping me through an intersection and not caring that a truck is coming.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Yes, I want you to unlock the door and leave. But you might kill yourself doing that though. Might, right? Yeah. So there's options in that scenario.
Starting point is 01:28:41 Yeah, you might not die in the car crash. What were the options in the other scenario? Hope dad gets well before we get to the bridge? I mean. He's going to sit there for an hour. Dad, what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:28:51 Dad, go back to court. Dad, you're supposed to be somewhere. Shut up. All right, just to quickly get away from that. My uncle fell out of the car when he was a kid on the Jersey Turnpike, and the newspaper, because he got unharmed, rolled on the Turnpike. Oh, those Irishmen. The newspaper, this is how funny news used to be and how fine the world was.
Starting point is 01:29:18 The headline was, Rubber Ball Paul. Child falls out of car on Jersey Turnpike. They called your uncle Rubber Ball Pole? We call him that to this day. That's fucking hilarious. Rubber ball pole. That's what the newspaper called my uncle who fell out of a car as a child on the Jersey Turnpike. This is a really good topic.
Starting point is 01:29:42 Y'all give me the wildest newspaper headline that came out about your family. I think Rubber Ball Paul takes it. There you go. No. You didn't win. Oh, God. Really? You didn't win. I'll never put anything up against the buttons. You didn't win. My family's never been in the headlines
Starting point is 01:29:59 in a newspaper. What? Your family started Rockefeller. What the fuck are you talking about? Your brother just came home. Shut up. Man clippings about your family. But it wasn't nothing wild about like that.
Starting point is 01:30:11 That was weed. It wasn't nothing wild. Oh, I was just talking about Rockefeller. That wasn't nothing. Rubber ball Paul is crazy. Yeah, but 900 pounds of weed in your pocket is crazy too.
Starting point is 01:30:21 In your pocket is crazy? Don't call them bigs for nothing. That's not crazy. No, that's not crazy. Shout out to bigs. Joking. Of course. What was the headline you were alluding to, Joe?
Starting point is 01:30:33 Well, I told you about my two twin cousins, Gina's sons. Hey, Gina. Hey, y'all. You got mad twins in your family. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. Interesting. Well, go on.
Starting point is 01:30:46 I told you that they went to the store in Sumter, South Carolina and robbed the store for lottery tickets and went home and scratched it off and won
Starting point is 01:30:57 and went back to the store that they robbed and were quickly apprehended and brought to justice. Quickly apprehended. and brought to justice. Quickly apprehended. Brought to justice. Get these thugs off the street.
Starting point is 01:31:15 That's hilarious. I'm sure that came, I'm sure that clipping came out in the newspaper. I was about to call them, but no. That would definitely be in the newspaper. How old were they? I don't know now, but they that would definitely be in the newspaper how old were they
Starting point is 01:31:25 I don't know now but they were young please tell me like 28 no no no they was young and bad they better have been young doing that
Starting point is 01:31:33 they was young and bad they were like teenagers yeah that's fine that's not fine it's not fine you shouldn't be that it's understandable though
Starting point is 01:31:41 it's not none of my family understood it we were all confused looking back Sumner, South Carolina I've never's understandable, though. It's not. None of my family understood it. We were all confused. Looking back, it's Sumner, South Carolina. I've never been there, but I imagine there's not many corner stores that have the lottery. There's more. It's more than one. It's not like New York.
Starting point is 01:31:53 You just have to find one. The one that you didn't steal from. I don't care how far we got to drive. We just need to find another gas station where we can cash this in. That's all. That was like one time I was uptown Ordering a sandwich And you know how they got the scratch offs
Starting point is 01:32:11 Yeah So The dude The dude that makes the sandwiches It was late He was working by himself So he was making my sandwich So
Starting point is 01:32:19 He goes to the sandwich part He's making it The other dude came in the store He goes He reaches over And steals like Some of the scratch offs But he's making it. The other dude came in the store. He reaches over and steals some of the scratch-offs. But he don't pee. I could see,
Starting point is 01:32:29 it's a mirror over the grill. Right. So he could see behind him. So I already see he's seen him. So the dude's standing there with the scratch-offs in his pocket. So he had like a beer, some other bullshit.
Starting point is 01:32:40 So I rang it up, but it was more than just the beer. So he was like, yo, what's that? He said yeah Them two scratch-ups in your pocket That dude was standing there Looking so stupid
Starting point is 01:32:53 He was like You don't think I was gonna see you Stealing lottery tickets man I saw a clip on the internet The other day Of a nigga in a gas station I guess he was online About to pay
Starting point is 01:33:04 But he didn't feel like paying, so he tried to dip out, but the door was locked. So he just put the shit on the counter. I mean. I didn't steal it. I didn't steal it. It's here.
Starting point is 01:33:18 It's in the store. Now that's fucked up when they got the little magnetized block on it. Yeah, yeah. I don't like that. I accidentally robbed a got the little magnetized block on it. Yeah, yeah. I don't like that. I accidentally robbed a liquor store once. Oh, you just walked out?
Starting point is 01:33:30 No, I was like 14 or 15. And you know how you just be hanging around people that you don't really know like that, and they be kind of off? Yeah. Cappas? No, I wasn't a cappa before. Pre-cappa. This gentleman's name was Jesus.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Not his real name. We just called him Jesus. And why I knew he was off, he was a crip, and there was no gangs around. He was just like a dolo crip. He's a trincetta. That's a little weird. He's a lone wolf. Yeah, he's a lone wolf.
Starting point is 01:33:58 He's a trincetta, man. A gang, I always thought, all right, gang means a lot of people. He was just a crip. And I was like, all right, cool. He should be around. He was carrying an object that looked like a bat. We was all chilling in front of a liquor store that was closed and didn't have a gate down. This is how Patty Duke got in trouble.
Starting point is 01:34:17 He didn't say anything. He just smashed the liquor store window open and ran in there. It wasn't like we were not going to take anything out of the front yeah nah why not but like it wasn't he didn't say anything
Starting point is 01:34:28 yeah he just set the vibe he set the tone for y'all follow me set the vibe yeah now this is what we on tonight
Starting point is 01:34:34 I don't want to hear Rory ever laugh ever again laugh at a dude having a big bro what being big bro like you called a nigga Jesus
Starting point is 01:34:44 that wasn't even Jesus he wasn't a crip either nah but that's but he had a blue rag on that's a little being big bro Like you called a nigga Jesus That wasn't even Jesus He wasn't a crip either Nah but that's But he had a blue rag on him That's a little past big bro right He wasn't a crip But Rory kept calling him cuz What kind of liquor did you steal
Starting point is 01:34:54 Just anything that was in the front Yeah when you're 14 You don't really know I didn't know what the fuck it was Nor did I drink it Peach schnapps I think all the big bros took it Rory smashed the window
Starting point is 01:35:03 It was still a spritzer Copped the Boone's Farm Right. Rory smashed the window to steal a spritzer. Copped the Boone's Farm right out the gate. Where the hell is Patty Duke anyway? We never got an update on Patty Duke. That's what I'm saying. We be letting niggas just sneak away when the doc come out. Not Patty Duke in Bali. I want to know, when we accidentally robbed a liquor store, no black people were harmed.
Starting point is 01:35:23 They profited. Thank God. Thank God. Thank God. Good. Good news. So what'd you say? Black people only profit when thievery is happening? You said it, bro.
Starting point is 01:35:34 I mean. That's exactly what you said. Those were your words, Jesus. Jesus. I am a lotto. I can make these jokes. Rory, give us a lotto take because we keep talking about that and I did see a lot of people talking about it.
Starting point is 01:35:46 I don't know enough about the young lady. And to my knowledge, this whole thing came up because an interview came out where she was saying she's thinking about changing the name because it's stopping some opportunities or some people are getting offended.
Starting point is 01:35:59 And then a lot of people got offended that she was thinking about changing the name over, over... Is that an offensive word three things well y'all made up all the offensive shit so tell me so yeah three things i do want to know what happened to patty dude second one i don't know who mulatto is and third i found out last night that that was an offensive word oh is what is mulatto and no one has given her why is she white black i'll stop saying i'm sorry i was joking i'll stop one has given me why. Is she white, black? I'll stop saying it. I'm sorry. I was joking. I'll stop saying it.
Starting point is 01:36:25 Tell me why it's offensive, and I'll happily stop saying it. I didn't know it was offensive. Matter of fact. I believe they're gesturing us to the screen here. The term mulatto. Mulatto in Spanish commonly refers to a mixed race ancestry that includes white European and black African roots across Latin America. These are the two terms most commonly used to describe people of mixed race background what
Starting point is 01:36:45 i thought the definition was that's a slur wait mulatto is offensive now yeah that was that was the big talk we weren't i know you and i weren't raised to think that was uh offensive no i know people that are mixed that call themselves that like that was the term. That was always the term. Like the young lady in Questionnaire. That was the term in neighborhoods where they would be offensive with terms. Mulatto wasn't one of them. That's what I'm saying. I never knew that this was...
Starting point is 01:37:14 The origin of mulatto was left out by Daniel Webster in the 1947 printing of his dictionary. But it is a common term from the southeastern United States during the era of slavery. It may derive from Portuguese mula,
Starting point is 01:37:29 from the Latin mulus, meaning mule, the hybrid offspring of a horse and a donkey. Now we can understand why that's offensive. Basically, everything that this country is built on is racism. Yeah, pretty much. Got it. That's the bottom line. I built on is racism. Yeah. Okay, got it.
Starting point is 01:37:46 Got it. That's the bottom line. So no, I do apologize for my jokes. I really never knew it was an offensive term ever. I really thought that was a way
Starting point is 01:37:52 to describe somebody that was mixed. I've actually heard them use that as a way to describe that they were mixed. Okay, well now that we've learned that that is indeed offensive, my next question for y'all is
Starting point is 01:38:03 where do you guys stand and things that may or may not be offensive being used in art because she is an entertainer and an artist right not one that i know to be purposely evil and vindictive, but again, I don't know much about her. But I've never heard that she was purposely evil or vindictive like some people that I know and believe them to be that way on purpose. So, and she came out and said, hey, I'm thinking about changing it.
Starting point is 01:38:37 So I don't really know what all the fuss is about. I don't have the range for this. I take the back seat. I typically, my rule now is I am not that. And if that offends people that are that. Pretty girl. Then that's right. If the people that you're talking about are offended by it, you should stop saying it.
Starting point is 01:38:55 But if she is. Is she mixed race? Well, I don't know. But she's saying she wants to change it. So she's not the person where she'd be upset. She is. Yeah, I don't know her background. See, without me knowing
Starting point is 01:39:10 anything about this, all weekend when people were discussing it, I just went to the Washington Redskins. Because for me, it's kind of a parallel. Like, a group of people,
Starting point is 01:39:22 a large group of people, said that's offensive. And a lot of people just kept watching football, even though there were polls and petitions and we were begging for them to change it. But they did nothing for ever until the money was affected. Yeah. Until the money was affected. I just think now you have Mulatto who may be having some opportunities being blocked. She may be having trouble with placements and promo and just things of that nature. So to make it easier, I'm sure somebody on her team came and said,
Starting point is 01:39:51 or label said, hey, we might need to address this. And I know some people have to have the take of, hey, you didn't know that was offensive when your name just helped that, or you had a team in place, they couldn't talk to you about that before that, you signed to a label why didn't anybody but that's not how this thing goes all the time and a lot of times you're improving shit or fixing mistakes on the fly as the public brings them to your attention right yeah so i could totally see her having this name trying to be successful running into roadblocks and then going back to change it once the fans alert her. But I'm not with just hanging people that don't truly deserve to be hung.
Starting point is 01:40:33 If the girl came out and said, I want to change my name and I don't want to offend anybody, then what the fuck am I investing all these emotions in this for? Wait, is she under attack for her name? This was the subject matter of the last two days in a very aggressive way. Oh, my God. Yeah, they were killing her. People just want to know.
Starting point is 01:40:50 I really hope that stops soon. That should have shot a lot. I really hope we start saving our energy for the people we should kill. Now, listen, if I'm totally wrong about this, I'm down. Again, I don't have all the information. I'm not totally knowledgeable about the young lady. I can't say that enough times, so let me stop qualifying or disqualifying myself but i don't get it i i was talking to my i get the offensive part though i was talking to my guy della yesterday
Starting point is 01:41:15 and he brought up a point that would be deemed corny and funny and we joked about how that could be perceived this way but stop calling people out and call them in. If they don't know it, tell them. There's people you should call out that are doing some crazy shit, but if people generally have no idea and are interested in learning, that call out shit is corny. Tell them.
Starting point is 01:41:37 And then don't get angry at them when they go, I don't know, I had no idea. And if they mean it in a real genuine way everyone's not familiar with the Latin roots of words yeah like
Starting point is 01:41:49 this is new to me because I know people that are mixed that for years growing up they refer to themselves likewise yeah so I mean
Starting point is 01:41:57 you know I didn't know it was an offensive term until just now but I understand it absolutely it sounds offensive now that we know
Starting point is 01:42:04 the definition right understandable I think it would be more of a problem if she wasn't herself just now but i understand it absolutely it sounds offensive now that we know that right right understandable i think it would be more of a problem if she wasn't herself mixed i think people could get outraged about that but she's mixed so i mean i don't know i mean you know this is a hypersensitive world we live in now everybody's offended by anything so i get it you know i'm black and i wouldn't want to come out and say i'm mc nigger but if you say it it's okay because just like we use the term amongst each other it's fine because i don't think i don't think that's fine but that's me if we're using you don't think that we should use the term no i don't use it i
Starting point is 01:42:40 try not to use it around and like in a room full of like white people Like I definitely notice that about myself Like if I'm out in public Like I don't If I'm with my boys I don't use that word But if we in the crib Or we amongst each other Of course I use that word
Starting point is 01:42:54 No you use it around white people all the time You say nigga around parks and rural all the time Oh those my niggas though Yeah but see Yeah that's where I disagree And I'm not going to turn this into a think piece but for us to have we may have understanding of where the word derives from and how we have taken back control of the word and being something else and but we might have understanding of that
Starting point is 01:43:16 i can't expect for everyone that hears me use the word to have that same understanding right and then some of that might rub off and then they might think it's okay because it's a cycle to use it listen we've been to shows where in the middle of whatever and the white kids are going great and they're gonna take it to where they're gonna during the show you're like well me anyway what do i do like uncomfortable here i've always wondered they're having fun right they don't know that i'm offended like when i they maybe don't know they shouldn't be saying this i don't know the culture in this city i don't know like you know what i mean so i disagree with that but i understand it and i do it but i don't it's like
Starting point is 01:43:57 it's like habitual if you use it so much you're just going to naturally use it around some people who maybe don't have to understand i'm not going to think piece this out but that's my take um off of mulatto we did undoing we do have to touch on everyday struggle coming to an end i think that's important news what i'd say is it important news Or is it coming to an end What are you questioning Is it important news Oh Well I mean
Starting point is 01:44:28 Yeah it's I mean To this podcast It's a show Joe started It's not I think it's newsworthy And Wayno's my guy Yeah Wayno's definitely my fan
Starting point is 01:44:36 I fuck with Nadeska heavy Everyday Struggle Is coming to an end They announced this I think December 17th Is their final episode But of course the crew wanted to announce it a little earlier to uh let the fans give them the proper send-off and goodbye
Starting point is 01:44:51 I understand that you never want to leave that in corporate's hands for them to say hey cancel this shit it's done yeah like you kind of wanted you treated a little better than that and that's what they did um this is a show that I was initially a part of a show that i helped to create a show i spent some time with and was really proud of but they've had a lot of different phases since my departure uh star has been there different behind the scenes people have come go and come back um the legend star yeah the legend star uh absolutely and and the legend wayno or on his way to being a legend, Wayno. Wayno's definitely a legend. Yeah, Wayno's been here for like two and a half years.
Starting point is 01:45:29 What's a hoot kid on there, too, for a second? He did a guest. Maybe it's a guest. He did the guest thing. Yeah, maybe it's a guest. I think they did a couple guests at one point when they were doing the transition. Yeah. I only think it's important to note, because regardless of how you feel about the show
Starting point is 01:45:42 post me and during me, the show's had moments in this culture. Absolutely. And for it to be coming to an end, I don't know what it signifies for some people. But shit, what that says about where Complex may be right now is interesting as well. Like to just end the only daily show you have. as well like to just end your dick the only daily show you have again that's back to companies starting as one thing and then adapting and becoming something else I'm not certain what complex is attempting to become right now but I'm all for watching it I'm not gonna say it's over for complex but I feel like
Starting point is 01:46:17 I've seen a lot less of their stuff editorial stuff everything what I think I think they kind of made that adjustment when you had started that show that they focused so much on YouTube and their page after that. Granted, Complex,
Starting point is 01:46:31 I'm never going to say Complex didn't have a YouTube page before, but it felt like they went super heavy and direct to everything they were doing
Starting point is 01:46:38 on their YouTube page outside of the actual website. I think they were trying to drive more to their YouTube page than their actual... They had the Hot Wings and the Sneaker. Hot Wings is great.
Starting point is 01:46:49 Sneaker Shopping. Are those still in production? Yeah. But what Complex does now, at least with those shows, is they upstream to larger networks. So they own these properties.
Starting point is 01:47:05 They upstream them. They probably get a much bigger bag than they got when they were only focusing on digital. And then they own all the ads and they own everything. So that's what's happening. Same thing with Spotify wanting to own every podcast that they get
Starting point is 01:47:18 so they can put it out and do what they feel like. Got it. Okay, these are all the shows that they have. Oh, this is a mess. You're going to say it's a mess? You don't even know what's going on. Joe is going to Joe.
Starting point is 01:47:32 I just want to make that clear. At some point, Joe will Joe. All right, this is beautiful. Oh, man. Why didn't I think of that one? Well, I was happy with that transition because I always appreciated Wano's opinion on this type of shit, like off mic and off camera. I just always thought he always had a great point of view.
Starting point is 01:47:54 So I'm glad the world got to see that and Wano can do things in that space. So I was happy to see that this ended great. And shout out to those guys. Yeah. Shout out to everybody on the show. No, shout out to those guys. Yeah. Shout out to everybody on the show. No, shout out to Wayno and Nadeska.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Ta-da! Yeah, that's the only one shout out. Wayno, you know what it is. Never met Nadeska, but so love. Nadeska's great. Fuck with Nadeska. is never met in deska but solo the desk was great fuck with the desk
Starting point is 01:48:25 it's your show man you didn't give your long caption the creators you didn't stream on twitch listen in a different world uh in a different if in a different world it would have been cool for me to be back and be the last guest on the show and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But nah. I get it. You think that would be cool? Fuck out of here, man. Cut it out.
Starting point is 01:48:58 Cut your shit, my nigga. I don't know who this new Joe is, but cut your shit, my nigga. That wouldn't have been cool. Is that a new Joe? Ten minutes ago, he said Joe gone Joe. Now it's a new Joe. No, but no. So new Joe, old Joe. So new Joe is, but cut your shit, my nigga. That wouldn't have been cool. Is that a new Joe? Ten minutes ago, he said Joe gone Joe. Now it's a new Joe. No, but no. So new Joe, old Joe's?
Starting point is 01:49:08 So new Joe, old Joe's? You're going to tip your hat like Derek Jeter's last game? It's like, get the fuck out of here. What the fuck you mean that would have been a cool idea to go back? You don't like that? No, man. Get the fuck out of here. Put on the frock for one last time.
Starting point is 01:49:21 Tip your hat. You don't think it's dope when a player gets traded in their first game at your old team? No, no, no. You go out and you're like, hey, remember me? It's not the same.
Starting point is 01:49:31 Mad moments together. It's not the same. No. So, Mo, don't want me to revisit some of my old successful shows. I don't have three songs in a three-man,
Starting point is 01:49:40 in a three-song versus. What else? What else? You said you don't have three songs in a three-song. I have three songs. I said I don't know the third yet. You said you don't have three songs in the three song verses. I have three songs. I said I don't know the third yet. So you don't have three songs.
Starting point is 01:49:49 That's because I have a plethora. That's true. I ain't even thinking about it. I'm going pump it up. You don't have your plethora. I'm going clubbing. Man. Hammer dance.
Starting point is 01:49:59 She don't put it down? And hammer dance. I might get to five. Focus. Hey! No? No. I would do pump five. Focus. Hey! No? No. I would do Pump It Up, Pump It Up Remix with Jay-Z, because you got a whole feature now.
Starting point is 01:50:11 Got a whole feature. That's hard. All right. I'm done with that. That's all you even think about. Pump It Up Remix. Jay-Z, get off of me. She's a stressful person.
Starting point is 01:50:20 All right. Got it. Got it. You're stressed about your three songs. Hey! It's skate time. Hello? Why you sound like that?
Starting point is 01:50:36 What's up, King? Swiss, this is Joe Budden from the Joe Budden Podcast and the gang. How are you? I'm homeschooling. Yeah, it was not really homeschooling when you live in that lavish mansion with the Batman garage. Mansion's cool. You have a real nice house.
Starting point is 01:50:53 But listen, Swiss, that's not what I'm calling about. I'm calling to give you IP. You ready? You ready for the verses we need for New York? Y'all just did it for Atlanta. Y'all had Jeezy, Gucci. It was an Atlanta moment. Atlanta was rocking for the week.
Starting point is 01:51:08 You're a New Yorker. I think New York needs this. Know what I think we need? I got a mean, mean, mean. I got a couple of mean New York ones, but I'm going to listen. Oh, that's what the niggas say when you're about to steal your shit. All right, Swiss, I'm going to give it to you. How do you feel about Mason Betha in a versus?
Starting point is 01:51:27 Cameron. That's what I said, Swiss. All right. That's what I said. Wait, wait, wait, wait. But guess what? But guess what? You working on something?
Starting point is 01:51:37 I'll let y'all work on that. How about that? No, no, no, no. That's going to be tough. That's going to be tough. They fuck with you. I'm going to be tough. That's going to be tough. They fuck with you. I'm going to need some assistance on that one. I'm going to need some Swiss and Timbo help getting that together.
Starting point is 01:51:51 I'll work on Mace. You get Cam. I know we was working on a dip set one. We was working on a dip set one. Even though I think. Dip set versus who? Yeah. Well, he's not going to announce it here. I can't get into that. You know what I own even though I think dip set verse who? yeah well he's not gonna announce it here
Starting point is 01:52:06 I can't get into that but you know what I'm saying I tried we've been we've been working you know what I'm saying but I liked oh dip set verse G
Starting point is 01:52:14 I see what you're doing I see what you're doing I didn't want to say it dip set verse G I see what you're doing I ain't saying I ain't doing nothing that needs to be more than
Starting point is 01:52:21 20 records if that's the case yeah Swiss while I got you here what do you think of cause the verses shit is amazing but what do you think of y'all doing an opener verses with like
Starting point is 01:52:33 niggas with one or two songs or three songs or producers like you and Tim started like how do y'all expand this beyond this amazing shit that y'all already built not business wise I'm just talking about creatively yeah yeah we've been working on those on those different things so you know the only problem is it's been a lot um just with the
Starting point is 01:52:57 artists that that's the main event you know i'm saying i think we now got the machine oiled to where that we can start that you know i'm saying then the amount of time that we got the machine oiled to where that we can start that you know what i'm saying then the amount of time that we got the audience you gotta remember we got we got the audience for damn near three hours you know what i'm saying so like that that that curation in the beginning gotta be curated so tight because we're taking up so much time in your day, you know? Yeah, but y'all are late every versus now. The first hour, a lot of times. The first 40 minutes is y'all setting up.
Starting point is 01:53:32 Y'all can have two niggas go out there and do a song off. And whenever that happens, put me down for Pump It Up. Damn, I just gave away the suspense. Put me down. You don't know what I'll play. You don't know which joint I'm going to. I think joint verse depends on his song selection. It's really going to see where Joe wins and loses.
Starting point is 01:53:59 Shut up, Rory. All right, so Swizz can't tell us too much, but that is on his mind. New York. I like it. I like it. I like it. all right so swiss can't tell us too much but that is on his mind new york i like your show like it i like it i got because you know um there's so much shit we ain't even do yet that that we can't wait you know what i'm saying like as far as everything with it you know i mean but still keeping it in the in the in the way the way it feels high feels we could have definitely I'm thinking about it, Swiss,
Starting point is 01:54:27 and I don't mean to do this to you, now that I'm going back in my versus catalog, your New York card might be revoked, man. Swiss? Oh, yeah. Because he gave Atlanta. Atlanta has had nine out of ten of the versus moments. This last one was the biggest moment ever in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:54:42 He went to the West Coast, gave them their moment with Snoop and DMX in the studio. They brought it around. When are you going to bring your ass to quad? And I gave y'all Jaden Fab, right? So I did all that, too. Fam, if that's what you think New York is rocking with, sorry. I enjoyed it. No, that's one of the things New York is rocking with.
Starting point is 01:55:01 But you got to remember, we don't stick together like how we act. You understand? That's one of the things we got rocking with. But you got to remember, we don't stick together like how we act. You understand? That's a fact. Like, niggas be real divas in our city, which is why those other cities was able to come and do what they did. That's a fact. You know, when we had the advantage for many years, they stick together. Like, you know, everybody will talk a good one.
Starting point is 01:55:18 When we get on that phone, ah, it's not for me. You know I'm going to really go bad. I don't want to hear all that shit you know what i'm saying yeah like you're gonna go bad like the shootout should have been happened we talking about music we talking about creativity and that's why the gucci and jay-z one was so important because it showed how people can have serious Beats and put their problems aside and put their family and the creativity and their music First and educate, you know these youths out here who you know, we like some of the music
Starting point is 01:55:57 We don't like some of the music but let's contribute to that instead of just talking about it But a lot of our friends from new york they make it hard bro so i gotta we gotta maneuver you know i mean so um but we got a couple of great ones that's planned but my new york car can't be revoked because all all new york artists know i reach out you know what i'm saying but um we need one besides the fab and kiss one man that's that's all yeah we definitely were you at the GZ Gucci one? Nope. Smart man.
Starting point is 01:56:28 Smart, smart man. Watch that one from home, from my mansion. Yes. Now, I had planned a family vacation that I had to leave on that night that we planned for a year. And grandparents not seeing the grandkids and all the stuff here. So, you know know i couldn't i had to i had to keep those plans that night but were you able to watch it while the vacation yeah yeah i watched i watched it and then took off you know what i'm saying did you feel the tension
Starting point is 01:56:54 through the screen like i did i was scared in my room i felt the tension from a to z oh yeah because y'all had to deal with it yeah from a from A to Z, you know what I'm saying? But you know, I know that both of those brothers are in a different space in their life and I knew that this verse was going to actually even help bladder to the youth that's in the street thinking that, you know, you got to
Starting point is 01:57:18 be some type of way except for stand up, right? And I think that those two brothers would stand up and, but the thing that I like is that, you know, even Gucci and Gia, like we're going to keep it all the way real. Like it's not no fake love and fake this. We will get that smoke.
Starting point is 01:57:36 And as long as we, you know, end on a positive note, we won. You know what I'm saying? And that wasn't, and that wasn't, they had, man that was thick skin I can't even say I still got work to do in my life oh for seeing that I got work to do totally understandable same same me too I got work to do all right I don't have anything more for Swiss I appreciate you just letting us pick your brain this way we need fat Joe in the verses that's all I know yep yeah we you know you know I did his show a lot
Starting point is 01:58:08 of times I did his show a lot of times yeah I did his show a lot of times you know but um I think Joe I think Joe's in a good space I think Joe's in a good space believe it at that the key in a good space okay it went from hell fucking hell so I think he's in a good space. Okay, it went from hell fucking no So I think he's in a good space. Okay. Yeah, cuz bad Joe is probably now with the funnies And and people be needing time they get they awesome ready see that's what people don't know like when people say no It'd be temporary. You know saying they just be wanting to going simply be DJ and master a chessboard It's a big stage to jump on you can't just jump on here freestyle. You're gonna get hurt You know, we've seen that a couple of times with people think they get a jump on stage
Starting point is 01:58:53 Start with a record ain't nobody but your black heard that ink on Danny not for tonight I won't I won't ask you to pick a winner in Hypothetical mace verse cam, but what i will ask you is to give me a hypothetical score of that battle i think cam got mace in this one um my pops my pops my pops managed mace um love cam i think my pop managed cam at one time or two. I'm not mistaken But that was all family. You know what i'm saying? Um, the only reason is that may stop like real short You know what i'm saying may stop like Like if he he got a lot of mixtape freestyles if he throwing those and he got a lot of features too
Starting point is 01:59:38 Got a lot of features I don't know. I have to I have to really I have to really Sit that out because you gotta remember Cam got a solo life and he got a dip set life. He could play all that and he could play his features too. Oh, I forgot. You got to pick against me because you got to ride with the locks. I got to ride with the what?
Starting point is 01:59:59 Yeah, you're a rough rider. Nah, those are both Harlem ladies. That's Harlem. All right, I just want to see it. I just want to see it. Let's get it done. Swiss, Timbo, let's get it done. We need this.
Starting point is 02:00:16 New Year's Eve, let's go. Let's see if the people want it, though. Let's see if the people want it. Because the people be like, man, we ain't asking for this. So now we check with the people. The people, they a little picky with their little wish list you know all right i'll get a little mock flyer made up and post it and gain some traction bring you back bring you back to the research and data yeah but the only thing is like sometimes that should be scaring the artists away too i can't even lie, I think I fucked up like a good versus by playing around with it like that.
Starting point is 02:00:47 A super good one, man. Yeah, well, listen, if you're talking about what I think you're talking about, why you niggas post that Jodeci picture? Oh, Tim did that. That's Tim. Tim got the relationship with Tim. You know, that's his thing. But I don't think that's not what I'm talking about, though.
Starting point is 02:01:03 Oh, what you're talking about? Give us an exclusive so we can go viral. It's the one that I brought up on this podcast. Well, tell us. Let's hear it. Let's hear it. No, y'all know which one. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:01:12 It would have been a great one, but I don't think we getting that any, any time soon. But, you know, the running is loaded. Basis is loaded. And we going to blow your mind. Trust me. All right. Well, I'm ready for it i appreciate the call good luck with everything tell the family i said hello and we'll be watching man yeah all right man bless up zone zone yes sir all right
Starting point is 02:01:36 for a minute it sounded like swiss is preparing for was preparing for Dipset versus G-Unit. Which would make sense. Let's hypothesize. In the event that that happened, who do you have winning? Before we even get into that. Because I don't want to stay on that. G-Unit worldwide was much different. Dipset in New York, though.
Starting point is 02:02:02 That's a pretty hot take there, Rory. No, I'm just saying the difference of Dipset versus G-Unit. I don high take there Rory No I'm just saying like the difference of Dipset vs. G-Unit I don't know how It's pretty bold Like Swizz was saying You're on a big stage Yeah the G-Unit records may be bigger worldwide
Starting point is 02:02:13 But those Dipset records hit different Dipset I think Dipset is bigger than just New York too But G-Unit just 50-50 man What do you do with 50? That's a tough I would like to see if they did that group thing. Lock him in the closet to miss the verses.
Starting point is 02:02:29 He's got too many hit hits. He could play What Up Gangsta 20 times for me. Yeah. Well, that verse, Dipset Anthem is... Oh. That's a show off, showdown. Yeah, but if you're saying G-Unit, are you talking records that they have together
Starting point is 02:02:44 or solo catalog? Maybe there would have to be a, there has to be more than one artist on it. That's what I think. They could do that interesting where it's more than 20 records. You do five group versus group joints. Then you do three Jewels versus Banks joints. Then you do 10 Cam versus 50 joints. I think there could be a really unique way to do verses.
Starting point is 02:03:04 That changes everything if you're doing that. So just so I'm clear. I think there could be a really unique way to do versus. That changes everything if you're doing that. So just so I'm clear, y'all have Dipset Anthem beating, niggas done started something from Mace, and y'all have Dipset Anthem beating. What Up Gangsta? I didn't say that. What Up Gangsta? I never said that.
Starting point is 02:03:19 I don't know where you got that from. I think that's a good matchup. I'm taking What Up Gangsta, but I think that's a great matchup and I would never be mad. And my last, and my last dip set Anthem question, cause I might still take dips at Anthem in there, but I don't know. But my last one to y'all that I'm unsure about is dip set.
Starting point is 02:03:36 Anthem verse. We going to make it in the event that he was talking about the locks and not G unit locks, dip set. No, give me dipipset Anthem versus We Gon' Make It. I think...
Starting point is 02:03:49 See, we thinking... No, I don't know. I think more people just know Dipset Anthem. We Gon' Make It gets that point. I don't know. For you? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:03:59 But for most of the people that's going to be watching that, streaming that? We Gon' Make It gets that point for most of the people streaming that thing. They use the scale that's going to be watching that, streaming that. We're going to make it get to that point for most of the people streaming that thing. They use the scale that they weighed the whales with. Yes, I know, Rory.
Starting point is 02:04:11 I don't know, man. Dipset Anthem is, people outside of New York think, you know that people, this is how big Dipset is. People outside of New York think that every New York guy dresses like niggas in Dipset. True. Like, that's just a fact. Like, women across the country
Starting point is 02:04:28 think that every New York male looks like a member of Dipset. And talks like. Yeah. Like, that's just the influence that in how big of an impact. That's because men
Starting point is 02:04:35 across the country dress like different eras of Dipset. Sure. So that just goes to show how big they are culturally. I'm never going to doubt
Starting point is 02:04:44 their influence I think Diff said is the reason for everything modern music now but that's another take
Starting point is 02:04:52 that I need to flush out yeah I think you gotta flush like three more times nah you don't like it you don't like it if you go
Starting point is 02:04:59 if you go through the lineage that's a bold statement if you go if you go through the lineage if you have Wayne where he is and the influence Wayne has had on modern music, yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:09 Where has Wayne openly said he got his shit from? Where has Cortez said Wayne got all his shit from? Dipset. And I could flush this out on exactly outside. Sonically, musically, the sound that they brought has been used by everyone. That shit, listen to Heat Makers when they say, yeah, we were making like New York down south drums.
Starting point is 02:05:32 It was the first time we kind of put the trap shit against the soulful sample shit. I was outside when Dipset was doing it. I was too. Like, I'm not, I'm not. It's, their impact is insane. I will not trigger you by saying that you weren't outside I've read the YouTube comments their impact is phenomenal
Starting point is 02:05:50 they think I purposely try to trigger you to get you to hit me on certain topics when ageism is involved I was born in 1990 Joe I was outside when Dipset was active
Starting point is 02:05:59 you're still you had to be home at a certain time I think we have to tell niggas what you had to be home at a certain time we had to have to tell niggas what you had to be home at a certain time we had to tell people
Starting point is 02:06:06 what I was outside I just told you guys I robbed a liquor store when I was 14 you were a bad little Irish boy yeah allegedly Vlad
Starting point is 02:06:15 when you say I was outside it means I was outside without restrictions yeah it means I was I was experienced not to say you could have just been egging your parents Joe my own mother who was a saint I was outside without restrictions. It means I was experienced.
Starting point is 02:06:25 Not to say, you could have just been egging your parents. Joe, my own mother who is a saint will tell you she regrets that I had no restrictions. I know you're a little bad white boy.
Starting point is 02:06:35 I never had to be home at a time. Bad white Kappa boy. Yo, Rory, what year was you born? 1990. 90. So, dipset. 2003, 2004. Rory's 14. He's born? 1990. 90. So, Dipset. 2003, 2004.
Starting point is 02:06:46 Rory's 14. He's hanging with people he shouldn't hang with yet. Was Rory breathing and eating as a human being on Earth yet? Was he running around smoking weed? Yes. Was he paying his own rent? No. Was he like at these events? Was he fucking bitches getting money, robbing the gas stations?
Starting point is 02:07:00 I was fucking. But was he at these parties? That changes everything. No. How are you not outside and you fucking? Yeah, he at the party? That changes everything. No. How are you not outside and you fucking? Yeah, that's the thing. Because you can fucking side.
Starting point is 02:07:09 Yeah, you can fucking side. Yeah, you can fucking side. I couldn't fucking side at my mom's house. I had to fucking park. I'm doing a lot of fucking now inside. Well, no, I'm not. I'm lying.
Starting point is 02:07:18 Look how niggas lie on the podcast. Wait, so what do you think about Dipset versus Lox? That's the one. I'm taking Dipset. That's the one we need for New about Dipset versus Lox? That's the one. I'm taking Dipset. That's the one we need for New York. I'm taking Lox. Sorry, listeners all over the world.
Starting point is 02:07:32 Here's where I'm nervous. Lox is a tough out. How prepared Kiss came to that battle? Yeah. And then you add in Styles and Sheik. Kiss alone has something for everything. He's got R&B records. He's got hard street records.
Starting point is 02:07:46 He's got... So does Dipset. I know. You know what? Matter of fact, hot take, because it's my age. I'm taking Dipset. Killer. Jones.
Starting point is 02:07:54 Freaky. I'm taking Dipset. Santana, come on. I'm taking Dipset. Shake. Shake. Shake. Hey.
Starting point is 02:07:58 I'm taking Lox. Not saying that that's a point in anything, but when that comes on, I'm dancing around. I don't expect the rest of the country to know the impact that this had when Goldfinger was DJing, but yeah. Oh. That would be great. Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:08:15 I just want to see that. Oh, we would bag so many New York bitches when this battle is on. We would be in the comments chewing. I think Kinsaloni would be in the comments. You win. So you have the locks as the ultimate New York group. In the verses. Probably so, yes.
Starting point is 02:08:39 In the verses. Probably so. Diff set is tough. Diff set is tough. Then that's all I'll say. Letipset is tough. Dipset is tough. Does the locks be Wu-Tang? Let me pull you back. Yeah. If we didn't just speak to Jimmy last week,
Starting point is 02:08:50 I would call him and ask him what he thought about some of these. I'm a Wu-Tang. What he thinks about Dipset versus the locks? Yeah. Come on, man. You know what Jim is going to say. He's going to ride for his team, of course, but he'll also give us at least an honest reason as to why he feels that way.
Starting point is 02:09:05 I don't think that he'll just say, oh, Dipset, you know about it. Yeah, I don't think he would do that. I think it just comes down to impact. Jim would be more honest than Cam would, I think. I think Dipset just has more of an impact. Than who? The locks? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:21 Absolutely. I think more people know Dipset than the locks. Why you did that, man? Yup. What's goody? Absolutely I think more people know Dipset than the locks Yup What's goody? It's Rory from the Joe Budden Podcast Back to back episodes Live on the air Joe We just got off the phone with Swiss
Starting point is 02:09:37 And we're just making up versus shit Just making up shit Swiss didn't say nothing But Dipset Versus G-Unit came up And Dipset Vers verse the locks came up and i need your opinion um well historically people would love to see dip set verse g unit right yeah but i doubt that'll happen Of course
Starting point is 02:10:05 No camaraderie there And we'll be going listening to 20-50 set records pretty much But let me stop taking jabs A lot of camaraderie A lot of energy to bounce off each other Cam and Jadakiss and Styles P literally started the same year to get into this game off of freestyles and things like that. We represent the uptown part of New York City. We represent the culture from New York City.
Starting point is 02:10:37 We've been pillars in this industry both for the past 20 some years, along with the whole Rough Rider enterprise. So, you know what I mean? I think that will be more suitable and more suitable for us also. But if there were a chance for the G-Unit thing to happen, I wouldn't exactly count it out. I just probably would say it would be a bit more aggressive than even the Jeezy and Gua versions. We don't want any of that.
Starting point is 02:11:08 Hypothetically speaking, just music, Jim. That's all. Nah, I want to wrestle and fight and shit like that. That's not what I was trying to get with this call, Jimmy. Yeah, Jim, yeah. We need that. Yeah, that's the energy I like. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:23 I'm with it. Listen to this. listen to this. Listen to this. In the event that it were the Lox versus Dipset, we just throwing out songs, what wins in Dipset Anthem versus We Gon' Make It? Just that one round. A lot of us in here have Dipset Anthem
Starting point is 02:11:44 as one of the greatest New York records ever made. I would say this, that our strategy would be five Jewels records, five Killer records, five Jim Jones records, five Diplomat records. That's like 20 platinum records.
Starting point is 02:11:59 That's tough. Does that make sense for us? I don't think that's a bad strategy. That's a. Does that make sense for us? Hmm. Oh, yeah. I don't think that's a bad strategy. A group of individuals that can break down into that type of shit doesn't even matter. You can go Migos, but Migos can't break down into solos. They haven't accomplished that yet. And when they do, they're going to be hella tough to reckon with.
Starting point is 02:12:22 But we got some shit that we've done that a lot of people haven't done. And yes, Lox are solo artists. And they do have some hella tough to reckon with but we got some that we've done that a lot of people haven't done that yes locks are solo artists and they do have some hellified hits i could sit down and ring off a bunch of them but we have bona fide platinum hits it's a little different you know that the locks are one of the greatest groups ever but one of their greatest feats has been they have had a hard time on the the bad boy constituents of going platinum through all those years. That was their biggest fight and the biggest fight had turned them platinum with the people because they deserved it. Us, we've been kind of blessed throughout our career with having angels around us and Cam has been a platinum artist since he's touched the game since 1997. And from then on, he's bring us into the game and even jim jones has ended up with platinum records
Starting point is 02:13:06 which i'm dropped i'm almost flabbergasted that i that i'm in the game still and still have these records that we have like we got some bonafide michael jackson hits is what i like to call them so you know it'll be a battle to the death to the death that's a great battle yeah either way i would love to just see dip set in the verses no matter the opponent I think that needs to happen. We need it for New York. That's that's just the bottom line. We need so when you get a call obliged With it whatever whoever you're with Alana We're not backing down from any any action at all you dig above all it's not that serious
Starting point is 02:13:41 So whoever they want to put up in a room with us We definitely ready to put our best foot forward and our artistry forward so give a fuck who it might be you heard put them in the box let's see who can box you heard at the end of the day it's about your lineup it ain't about your catalog it ain't about how much money you got it's about the vibe and the feeling you're gonna be able to give those people that's watching and if your lineup ain't right you might just lose and you could be one of the biggest platinum artists there is You know what I'm trying to say? Yeah, no, it's true Jim real quick before I let you go
Starting point is 02:14:14 What are the rappers gonna do now that Jake Paul is on the loose man? We're gonna jump that nigga I know J-Paul. I ain't gon' box him. He better get that shit in the ring because these niggas gon' scrape him up. You heard?
Starting point is 02:14:34 You heard? What the fuck you talking about? He better cut his whole pants. Fuck Jake ass up. Jump the shit out of his fucking mouth. Wait for his arm to fall tight.
Starting point is 02:14:44 You was just joking. I'm a grown-ass rapper. What the fuck you talking about? What the fuck you talking about? I don't play basketball. I'm not jumping in some shit that I have no business jumping in. But I tell you one thing, he better not jump in no shit he got no business jumping in. Don't be fooled by these rappers because that boxing ain't going to count when you get in this box. You heard, nigga? All right, Jim. Thank you. new album coming in a few weeks i like i like i like him though i like him i like i like him i can't take none away from him i think that nate should have did a little bit more research like you know i didn't even know what he was about until after the fight and
Starting point is 02:15:20 niggas were like bro the nigga been by he's a boxer he boxes like he's not no youtube sensation like he's 52 faking niggas out like he really boxes that nigga been by. He's a boxer. He boxes. He's not no YouTube sensation. He's 52 faking niggas out. He really boxes. He might be on steroids. The nigga know how to combo. His brother's a fucking boxer that beat niggas up. I beat both the niggas up. He's not a fucking nigger out. And for that alone, he need
Starting point is 02:15:38 to get jumped. That's beautiful. For that alone. He definitely did some billion shit Like no I don't know how to play pool Take all your money Shout out to Jake man Shout out to Nate
Starting point is 02:15:52 You know I'm smoking on some Nate right now You heard? Smoking on some Nate Yo Jim thank you We love you man New album in a couple weeks You already know what it is man
Starting point is 02:16:00 Alright man Appreciate you Ways Yeah we need a dip set. Jeremy might just need to come up and kick it. I think it's that fuck you talk about. We're not talking about anything. Yes.
Starting point is 02:16:20 Yes. YouTube, Jim Jones balling. You can't hear it, but it's a vibe. YouTube, Jim Jones, ballin'. You can't hear it, but it's a vibe. Hey. Hey. Rory wasn't outside when we was ballin'. He was outside for ballin'.
Starting point is 02:16:37 Not really. Not really. He was outside for ballin'. But was he ballin'? I wasn't. No. I'm not ballin' now. Then we weren't outside, really.
Starting point is 02:16:44 Well, that's a good point. Come on, man. You been in the tunnel? He's a Giants fan. Got it, buddy. All right. What else is going on? What else is going on?
Starting point is 02:16:55 What else is... I wasn't in the tunnel in 98. What else? I was eight. You ain't sneaking? But you were in Meadowlands. Oh, my God. I was definitely at the Meadowlands in 1998 for sure, though.
Starting point is 02:17:05 Can't believe you didn't sneak in there. An eight-year-old just sneaking into the tunnel. Hey, get your fake ID game up. I had a fake ID. You still got it? No, it was stolen. Mine was confiscated. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:20 It was a mystery. That was life-breaking. I was after 21, though. They took mine from speed. They came knocking on my door about this shit. I'm like, I was after 21 though I was like They came knocking on my door About this shit I'm like fam I'm 22 years old They came knocking on your door
Starting point is 02:17:28 For a fake ID It fell out of my pocket You know at the gas station Or something like that Oh okay No my My work They followed you from the club
Starting point is 02:17:33 And yo fam You got in last night With a fake ID Nah shit fell out And they came to the crib Cause my dumb ass Had my real address On the fake ID
Starting point is 02:17:41 Alright man Did you have your real name too? No Oh my. Dude, they just gave me a name and an address which I had to memorize. Like, oh fuck,
Starting point is 02:17:49 let me try to remember this. I had the fake ID. Miss Michigan ID. I don't know what it was about the state of Michigan but all my friends just had Michigan. Like, that was the ID
Starting point is 02:17:57 that was easy to print for some reason. It was easy to duplicate that one. Because they used to have the hard plastic joints that looked like a regular. Yeah, nah. Michigan didn't give a fuck.
Starting point is 02:18:10 Yeah. Yo, when you were turning 21 and you could use your real idea at the club oh my god was so hype at ohm i want to go everywhere yeah just a type of scream man to pull out his ysl wallet to pay for nothing at the podcast listen when when ohm was lit right next to that big ass parking lot that all the beefs would happen in and then you cross it and then be at Cheetah's and some other shit up the street. Come on, man. I'll tell you about it one day. One day I'm going to tell you about it. Honestly. You were scared to be around Brooklyn niggas back then.
Starting point is 02:18:36 Nigga, what are you talking about? I didn't see you. He's sitting Rockefeller. I was scared to be around Brooklyn niggas. What are you talking about, niggas? Because I keep thinking Mo is a Bronx Harlem nigga. That's where I'm from. But you're not.
Starting point is 02:18:51 You're really a Brooklyn nigga, too. I just know niggas everywhere, man. I was really at Marcy Days before. You ain't never been to Marcy Day. I never went to Marcy Day. See, I know. I never went to Marcy Day. See, I know.
Starting point is 02:19:02 No, I didn't. I know. Shit, it was a struggle getting me to Eastern Parkway for the parade sometimes. Oh, man, classic. I did Juve on Eastern Parkway the night before. You was trying to die. Remember when we was
Starting point is 02:19:12 on Eastern Parkway having a blast? I had the fucking flag bandana on. What flag you were at? And every three blocks we went, we heard,
Starting point is 02:19:23 yo, you know them niggas was just shooting two blocks away. Yo, you know them niggas was just shooting two blocks away. Yo, you know they just killed this nigga off the block. Look at the deal, like,
Starting point is 02:19:29 why are we still just walking here? Yeah. Like, we should leave. And leaving was difficult. The night before was crazy shit.
Starting point is 02:19:37 He wasn't driving. Because the train off Eastern Parkway in Crown Heights is safe. I mean, for the parade, he was on the drive. That might have scared me out of ever taking the train anywhere back then.
Starting point is 02:19:48 Actually, now that I think about my time in Brooklyn, I'm traumatized from a few things that happened in Brooklyn. I remember I just went to Brooklyn for an innocent night of bowling. Boy, it must have been gang night. First of all, it was was a big ass bowling alley And it was all pitch black With all these thugs in there Yeah right across the street
Starting point is 02:20:09 From a big gas station That niggas died at too And it was like Fam Why do they think That we should be bowling In the dark in here Three niggas already died
Starting point is 02:20:17 Yeah I left Yeah I don't do Brooklyn anymore But I hear it's nice now Yeah Brooklyn's nice Brooklyn's beautiful I mean Brooklyn's still Brooklyn Like It's certain pockets Don't get it twisted Brooklyn's nice. Brooklyn's beautiful. I mean, Brooklyn's still Brooklyn. It's certain pockets. Don't get it twisted.
Starting point is 02:20:29 Brooklyn's been gentrified. We have that conversation. We also have to have that conversation. There's parts that's not. Yeah, that's a fact. That's a fact. Yeah, you should tread lightly. Like, shout out to homeboy in the Bronx that when I was at the skate key, had a problem with me while I was skating. You looking for him? With keys in your pocket.
Starting point is 02:20:46 That's when he was vulnerable. We had the skates on. That's when he going to try you. Never cop the faster, please. And right when he was telling me why he was angry with me, Bowded Bowded came on. Oh, man. And the whole skate, he said,
Starting point is 02:20:59 It's like, man, if I don't get these skates off, he is about to road blade me across this key. Glad that place shut down. Get rid of those thugs. Nah, I miss skate key, though. What was the spot in Jersey? Skate 22?
Starting point is 02:21:17 Skate 22. Yeah. I was way too young for skate key. Skate 22. Skate key was the shit. Skate key. I stopped doing those. Go ahead. I'm sorry. My bad, bro.
Starting point is 02:21:27 I stopped taking those skating trips when I learned that I wasn't fly enough to get pussy on the bus, bag of chick on the bus trip there. You was hype because all the bad bitches was getting on the bus, but you was corny, so they was talking to the cool niggas. You just got to skate by yourself. Skate with the whole music. You was alone duringiggas. Then you just got to skate by yourself. Skate with the whole team. You was alone during couple of skate? Got to look for an opening.
Starting point is 02:21:49 Are you cold? Want my jacket? Joe's trying to perfect his backwards skate. You want my hoodie? I see goosebumps on you. No wonder they wasn't talking to you. You ever rubbed your... Oh my God, you are freezing.
Starting point is 02:22:06 Look at Erickson. Yo, nobody ever feels you, Erickson. All right, come on. What else are we doing? Oh, I really get the pussy when she's saying, no, I don't need anything. I insist. When you insist?
Starting point is 02:22:21 It doesn't work. No. You're thirsty when you insist. For real? I don't know. Absolutely. Don't yawn while we record. What he said?
Starting point is 02:22:33 What he told Savon? Savon, let that be the last time that you yawn while we record. Honestly. Scream, man. The day is coming. Save the address in your GPS yo nah
Starting point is 02:22:48 matter of fact quickly Savon when I walked in was like yo where you live in Jersey I was like Jersey City
Starting point is 02:22:54 he's like oh yeah I was just looking at a couple spots over there I was like oh my bad and then he was like yeah but I'm about to settle on this Upper East Side spot
Starting point is 02:23:03 so I don't even know if I want to go to broke ass Jersey City Upper East something spot. So I don't even know if I want to go to broke-ass Jersey City. Upper East. Something like Upper East. We don't care. We've never been to your house now. We're not coming to the next one.
Starting point is 02:23:12 We're not helping you move. What's worst on the list of being asked some shit by friends? I know how Rory feels about when your friends call you and ask you to help move. That's the number one on my list. So that could be number one. But you calling me to invite me to your wedding ain't far behind it.
Starting point is 02:23:29 Especially if it's a destination wedding. Yeah, don't try to sneak Puerto Rico on us. Nah, we're not doing that. Alright, so listen. You guys, I came up with this segment
Starting point is 02:23:41 called... You had to write it down? I came up... No, but I do have a printout here. I came up with this segment... I didn had to write it down? I came up. No, but I do have a printout here. I came up with this segment. Huh? What happened? Can we put a beep?
Starting point is 02:23:51 Over what? My life? We do need to beep his life. Yeah. We're going to beep his life. I came up with this segment for you guys, because you guys are so entertaining, called Do You Believe the Commenters? Okay.
Starting point is 02:24:08 Now, I don't know how many of the YouTube comments you guys actually read. I'm a Reddit guy now. I dig in the Reddit comments. Reddit. Instagram comments for you. Yeah, I'm the hipster. I'm the hipster. I don't know if Reddit still makes I'm a hipster. Shout out to our subreddit out there.
Starting point is 02:24:24 No, actually, the Reddit threads are very funny. I do enjoy them. I'm the hipster I don't know if Reddit still makes him a hipster shout out to our subreddit out there no actually the Reddit threads are very funny I do enjoy them so I'm just gonna read a few of these from our last episode and you were the star
Starting point is 02:24:32 Maul because of my hair I like what they did to you I think you're a star for many reasons it was only the bald dudes with bad hairlines talking shit
Starting point is 02:24:40 that's all Maul ASAP Casper says, Look at that name. Maul looks like the history teacher that tells you all the history
Starting point is 02:24:52 they didn't put in the books. Do you believe that or no? That's Maul's bag. Do you believe that? That I look like that? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:25:01 Hey, Casper, let me tell you something about me. All right, now there's more. Aviel Amour says Oh shit Wait what's my
Starting point is 02:25:07 Joe got his body done Maul showing off his braids out The pod fathers are really transforming Into the bud and baddies Right before our eyes I can't wait to tune in next week To see how Rory is going to glow up Do we believe that or no?
Starting point is 02:25:21 Rory glow up? I'm only losing weight Because of depression Not because of surgery. This guy says, Maul wants to be in the roots so bad. Do we believe that? No. I do. I do.
Starting point is 02:25:35 Rockefeller's mad they didn't sign the roots. I believe that. Probably. Yeah, maybe. That's your fault. Darius Scott Miller says, you guys need to set it up so when Screen Man pulls something up, the audience can also see it. I agree with that.
Starting point is 02:25:47 I believe it. Hey, Screen Man, you and your little Long Island buddy are going to get fired. Why don't you... Oh, that's an Erickson thing. Erickson. That's an Erickson thing.
Starting point is 02:25:59 It's not a Screen Man thing at all. It's not a Screen Man thing at all. I'm sorry. You're from Long Island now. Yeah, my bad. Screen Man, you got Erickson and Saban's gigs moving forward. X, whatever this guy's name is, says,
Starting point is 02:26:09 Joe's been hitting, he wants an invite to a friend's giving. No one's getting it. Shut up. We don't care about that. Rory's been pulling up from half court the last five episodes. Shut up. Someone guard this, man.
Starting point is 02:26:18 Shut up. Get off his dick. I don't believe that one because it's been well over five episodes. All I want to know is when Wolfgang Von Maul's concert though gonna drop
Starting point is 02:26:28 alright shut up boo here's the thing I like the concept of this episode or this segment that we're doing I just don't like
Starting point is 02:26:35 this selection I think this is a really good idea and I think if we go through Twitter IG Reddit YouTube
Starting point is 02:26:40 this will be great y'all are just trash bye humbug I did like more being in the roost though alright is there anything else
Starting point is 02:26:52 we did we did the undoing we spoke to Swizz we spoke to Jim we instigated
Starting point is 02:26:56 some shit the lockdown they said that yesterday was going to be a lockdown I still feel kind of free
Starting point is 02:27:02 freedom is an illusion I know Mo don't get started the fact that no one called Mo like yesterday was going to be a lockdown. I still feel kind of free. It's bullshit. Freedom is an illusion. I know, Mo. Don't get started. The fact that no one called Mo like Cornel West and somehow flipped it.
Starting point is 02:27:11 They did. It's just, all right, cool. They called him everything. They called me anybody that has a hair out, fro. I've seen it all. It's all good. I don't have anything else
Starting point is 02:27:24 except to say to you, you more and rory specifically you seen your mans the other night who's my man you seen your mans tom brady oh tom you seen tom you seen what time wouldn't even look young patty in his eyes at the end of the game still a good game though wouldn't even give him the hug dap yeah because you young walked his little locker room fast to beef with Bruce Arians. Yeah, that ain't Bill Belichick over there coddling you. Huh? Yeah, good.
Starting point is 02:27:49 And that ain't Carson Wentz. That's young Patty. Get your rings up before you can talk to me. You seen what Patty did? I seen what Brady did his career. Got five of them things. Oh, Pat's getting 10. Oh, he got six, actually.
Starting point is 02:27:59 Pat's getting 10. Hmm? You think Pat's getting 10 Super Bowls? At least seven. No. I can see it. I'm talking shit, but I can see it too. I can see him running the table for a little while. Football is bound to have someone do a
Starting point is 02:28:12 Jordan run. Or an old Cowboys run. Or like a Tom Brady run. Yeah. Like in football? Yeah. No, it happened. No, we want to see it again. Football is bound to happen to what Tom Brady did? Do it again. No, we want to see it again. Football is bound to happen to what Tom Brady did? Do it again.
Starting point is 02:28:27 Tom? Yeah. You're telling someone that has that many rings to do it again? Look, even Rory's scared of Patrick Mahomes. I'm done. It's true. I'm done. He's a different type of person.
Starting point is 02:28:37 Y'all seen what he did. We got to give his, what's his receiver? Tyreek Hill? We got to give him. The cheetah? Yo, that dude is different. Oh, stole Rory's nickname. Yeah, that dude is different. Oh, still Roy's nickname. Yeah, that dude is different.
Starting point is 02:28:47 I could be him in a minute. You ****. What the **** is going on here? It's a joke. All right, blur it out, man. What the **** is going on? Blur it out. Yeah, that's what I wanted to say.
Starting point is 02:29:04 Y'all seen Pat Mahomes? No, he's good at football. Pat, he's what I wanted to say. Y'all seen Pat Mahomes? He's good at football. He's the real deal. He's the real deal. Look at the fucking Giants leading the division like idiots. That's wild. That division's terrible. It's still funny that they're leading it.
Starting point is 02:29:20 With like a 4-7 record or something. Wait, I just got a really important text from Van. Not Van Jones. Van Lathan. Hey, Van. Five texts in a row. I'll read them all to you. It says, Maul is very important to me.
Starting point is 02:29:35 Every time I'm about to drop a thirsty comment on an IG chick, I see the money bags. Every time. Come on. And I go, no, Van. Maul already has his feet up in this living room. See, I say the exact opposite. What do you say?
Starting point is 02:29:47 When I see you with the money bag, I'm blowing it up. Oh, I'm in the right place. Oh, yeah, I'm in the right place. Hey, I don't even get busy on the Explore page without seeing a reference from some of my niggas. Freddie Gibbs. Hey. When I see Liked by Freddie and Zoe Dollars. Yeah. Yeah. reference from some of my niggas freddie gibbs hey when i see like by freddie and zoe zoe dollars yeah yeah i'm in and more it's the three of y'all and it's stupid all right i am finished i am
Starting point is 02:30:14 finished potting for the day there's nothing else that needs my direct attention right this second we will be back on saturday now we have sleepers yes i don't have a sleeper, but I'll find one. Hey. Fuck that. Basley, get out of my Simply Lemonade. All right, I'm keeping this, New York. I am. I got to do it. That's hot.
Starting point is 02:30:40 Yeah. Mic check, mic check. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, nigga? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right It's like, fuck, it's King Tajiri Blind theory, nigga I smoke bogeys, conspiracy theory It's like, Malcolm, who's just an ex These bitches swear they in love, but it's just an ex Niggas act like my cocaine's long and stressed Like I don't keep two shotguns under my test I flip, I sleep, see I'm the king of the street
Starting point is 02:31:20 And show motherfuckers how to rhyme on next to his beats In Miami, a punch to the, won the Grammy This year I to rhyme on next to his beats In Miami, a punch shoulda won the Grammy This year I bring this shit home to his family Get happy and keep hating till you receive Mad votes in your chest plate, hard to breathe Till you're a hater like Star and Buck Nigga what? And fuck Tommy boy Them niggas just suck, I'm the ultimate
Starting point is 02:31:38 Gun on my dick, hoes follow my spit Wanna drink, everybody on the set Nigga when that shit is bustin' off And the ambulance come and rush your arm And the witness like, we don't know them bars Me and my niggas goin' hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey Then we resume, hangin' with stars Then we live in fat houses, a fat ass car
Starting point is 02:31:56 We be drivin' screams, nigga, fuck the law Me and my niggas goin' hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey I alternated with the greatest, upgraded my speech We violated, I'm violating, that nigga's capiche It's unsafe like late night on Orchard Beach Drinks up river ranches and get slurped at least Let's have fun with it, in the bridge, my nigga's done with it Niggas had hit records, but we done did it
Starting point is 02:32:16 Papakala, see them tits, they like to holla And oh, you know them hoes already know they gotta swallow Money like Nutty Professor, fat as fuck Four gold albums, ain't none of it luck Brad Pitt, Fight Club, shit fucking you up Since you seem so tense, release the mutts I'm connected, the police release my cuffs Call me Fillmore, nah nigga, cause I'ma feel more
Starting point is 02:32:35 Nigga, this my year, you gon' feel normal Money, we got it, but still trying to feel more Nigga, when that heat is bustin' off And the ambulance come and rush you off And the witness like, we don't know them boys Me and my niggas go with G, hey, hey, hey, hey Then we resume, hangin' with stars Then we live in fat houses and fat ass cars
Starting point is 02:32:53 Then we drive and scream, nigga, fuck the law Me and my niggas go with G, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey Talk my nigga wrong, we won't be done Rhyme me, Cooper, Shakes, and Rusty Gun Rhyme me, nigga, get pop, can't hush me, son Rhyme me, sellinmey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey!
Starting point is 02:33:08 Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey!
Starting point is 02:33:16 Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey!
Starting point is 02:33:24 Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Slow down, slow down, slow down. While I'm on this versus kick, the Nori record was playing. I'm freestyling shit. I walk away, and I say, hey, how about Nori versus Bleak? Rory tells me I'm smoking crack again. I love Bleak, but Nori a little different when it comes to a versus. Nori's got a lot of different types of hits. And I love Bleak, and I don't think Bleak is respected. Bleak could do damage in a versus as well.
Starting point is 02:33:54 Nori, it's a lot. Nori's got hits in different languages. He's got like grimy underground shit. He created a genre. All right, well, you play that Spanish shit when Is That Your Chick comes on. See how it goes. If you think that's what he's playing against, that on. See how it goes. Well, no, you wouldn't. If you think that's what he's playing against,
Starting point is 02:34:06 that's what you're playing with. You wouldn't do that. Nor he could also play one of the greatest posse cuts of all time. Yeah, true. That part. And Superdog. And Money Money.
Starting point is 02:34:19 Yeah. And nothing. And Body and the Troll. T-O-N-Y. Oh, yeah. And that. You said nothing. You said nothing, Erwin. and nothing and body neutral T-O-N-Y oh yeah and nothing you said nothing you said nothing
Starting point is 02:34:28 because nothing is my favorite I said nothing yeah Bleak has joints though yeah he does and grimy I would just like
Starting point is 02:34:35 that matchup because I know they fuck with each other and it'd be great music yeah but I have to go look at basically
Starting point is 02:34:41 give me this man he loves paper towels I have to go look at what Bleak's 20 would look like bleak would have a good 20 Yeah, for sure bleak would we would have a really good 20 Who'd be a good matter of fact? I don't think a lot of people want to see bleak. Who's a good matchup for noria That's a good question, I don't know I mean the answer would have been Prodigy rest in peace yeah
Starting point is 02:35:05 Prodigy and Noid would be really good that was yeah it would be nice to see Mobb Deep I mean Havoc
Starting point is 02:35:13 I'm cool with Hav doing it yeah I think that would be dope yeah yeah have Noid come yeah bring the whole
Starting point is 02:35:20 41st side yeah make it awkward I'll be watching from home no one will pause it out. I'll be watching from home. No one will pause it at home? No, I just pick my spots. I pick the culture shit to show up to.
Starting point is 02:35:35 You know, I like the gentrified side of Long Island City. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. That's all. All right, I'm going to play a song that has nothing to do With what we're talking about Sound wise This is Jay Warner Belong to you I'm gonna put Everyone to sleep
Starting point is 02:35:48 Let's go Jay Warner It's gonna be weird to play In a room full of men But the puppy's cute So it's cool This shit is fire though Tell me your fears I'll be your friendly shadow Take my advice It won't be hard to swallow Tell me your thoughts We've always got tomorrow
Starting point is 02:36:55 Oh Moving away, you know you got my soul I belong to you Don't run away, no I won't let go I belong to you No matter how far You wanna go off alone This ain't a thought This is a full proposal Oh, proposal Hard to forgive
Starting point is 02:38:22 Hard to forgive but still I Don't mind the way you know you got my soul I belong to you Don't mind the way you know I won't let go I belong to you You You You You, you, you, you, you You, you, you, you, you That's Jay Warner, Belong To You. Play that with a woman not in a room full of 17 men like I just did. Maybe get yourself a puppy.
Starting point is 02:39:38 All right. Play a new joint from Jay Mills. We were just talking about him. This is High Rollers featuring Anthony King. Mills, you my guy, but that was the worst take I ever heard. It's like a motherfucking space shoot, man. You got the whole. You feel the VDS, man?
Starting point is 02:39:55 Yeah, I feel the VDS on this motherfucker. So, man, I'm taking a little bit, man. Show you what it feel like. Just stop saying hold that Ghost Riders. Only with the bra, keep the pure, I'm smokin' And I'm rollin' high We keep it high Rollin' with your lotto, need it loud and poppin'
Starting point is 02:40:19 Loud and poppin', baby Rollin' high We keep it high Loud Poet, baby Music Smokin' on that glue, slightly chopped With that moon rock, silk Prada Wildin' in Nevada like I'm Tupac Shorty from that BBL era She ain't do the shots, ass stupid
Starting point is 02:40:38 She hop in the drop and make the coupe hop Gotta open like a loose lock Cause I'm too hot, fake hate foreign spots Fuck it, cock, Gucci tube socks We am from the hustlers, made bank accounts out they shoe box We am from the hustlers, cook crack in they mama soup pots We am from the hustlers, wrote BBS's and stayed the freshest I learned the more work you need more dresses
Starting point is 02:40:57 I learned early jury clashing just show you lack of effort And that's exactly why my Rolex gotta match my necklace That's exactly why I can't with your ends With Adidas track pants Respect the way I put it together You can never find this on the rack This a 101 custom sweater And this loud I'm smoking smell better than new Mercedes leather
Starting point is 02:41:17 Only with the raw I keep the pure I'm smoking now And I'm rollingin' high, we keep it high Rollin' with your lotto, need it loud and potent And I'm rollin' high, we keep it high I came in stacked and I keep it packed Got my roll intact, this just stayin' fresh like bubble wrap Got it across the map, high grade I did good in class like the Sypha Pass God I pray you just give me drive, I can buy the gas Studio done got me multitask Shorty crushin' for me, I ain't gotta ask I'm in the booth, she get it outta bag
Starting point is 02:42:01 Flex it in the paper while she naked Then I I just blaze it While producing these hotter tracks Blast off, then I turn the beats up Zone it out, this we got more colors than X on Easter Buzzing like the Uber East, man delivering pizza Told my ex ain't no holding on to me like I'm greased up I'm pieced up, pieced up Unless a nigga start tripping See the stars up in this room like glow-in-the-dark stickers
Starting point is 02:42:23 I'm enlarged with the fumes I cut checks and part swishers You run as far behind I'm too ahead Like car distance And I Only with the bra I keep the pure
Starting point is 02:42:32 I'm smokin' And I'm rollin' high We keep it high Rollin' with your life That's Hot Rollers J Mills featuring Anthony King Anthony King Whole album Woodpan of Walls Get that Rolling with your life That was one of the worst takes I've ever heard in my life. But that Woodpanda Walls album is great. It never regained. Fuck, my guy Mills said, I got the footage. Yeah, it was a motion picture.
Starting point is 02:43:12 We all saw it. Yeah. I'm going to play some of Rock Marcia. This is Butterfly Flect off Mount Marcy. Shout out to Rock Marcia. Shout out to Jazz. Come on, send me some merch, nigga Uh, I'm out, Ma, see you later
Starting point is 02:43:30 Shave, shave, uh I told my young boy trust the process Even Malcolm X once rocked the process Used to pumping the projects, now we fund the projects My goonie spun the blocks, so you should come from my neck Throw my war pile in the bicep Threw a hole four on a sprite it was high tech Cool out before you get sidestepped
Starting point is 02:43:53 Then butterfly effect I'm not a pilot but I will personally fly your head Yeah, that's just a tip of the iceberg A hundred can of ice lay on the iceberg Uh, rock the white fur like I'm Iceberg See how I'm driving the flying spur Like it's a piece of shit Chrysler Cop that ass to advantage, I'm taking advantage My bitch laced with purple H, blazing with Xanax
Starting point is 02:44:16 Crush it up with the Amex Nigga woke up wearing pajamas Holded all the dirty work, she like Kurt Rambis I like how you hit them motherfuckin' bars Hold it all the dirty work, she like Kurt Rambis Blew the horn to summon the demons Two shooters pull up in demons, we keep up with the seasons Ice on my neck, I'm fuckin' freezin' Do not cut like me, you need seeds, then plus a few key ingredients Shooters pull up in damage, we keep up with the seasons Ice on my neck, I'm fuckin' freezin' Do not cut like me, you need seeds
Starting point is 02:44:47 Then plus a few key ingredients Yeah, I'm talkin' spicy Call me lil' mama, the cayenne Oh, the irony Keep the iron in the jeans like they need ironing Cartier wire frames like me and the Ivy League Bench wifey, 90 degrees degrees And then my Nikes breezy I bleed these around these cyclies
Starting point is 02:45:08 Snickers sauce 19 All white beam look like ice cream Yeah, we finally reached the mountain top Falcons fly My third eye's not calcified I'm outside like the house on fire Cut off the power source For coming out your mouth for a fly
Starting point is 02:45:24 I just did that off the fly, we might slide on you like a water ride, dog if you ever cross the line, pop like a cork on the wine, you see I'm walking on sunshine, forever screamin' fuck one time fuck
Starting point is 02:45:39 butterfly butterfly effect by Rock Marciano Marciano. Shout out, Rock. Marci now available everywhere. Shout out to Rock. Yeah, see, it's not really boom bap. Just neither boom nor bap.
Starting point is 02:45:52 Rock has had some boom bap, though. He does. He does have some, but it's loops. Yeah. No, I'm as good. Shout out to Rock, man. Yeah, man. Alrighty, then. Jones, Freaky, Santana. Yeah, man. Alrighty then.
Starting point is 02:46:07 Let's go. Hey, hey, hey. Alright, good show, you guys. Glad we got to the bottom of things. That's what happened? That's what you call this episode? No, but it'll look like that if next week Dipset vs. Deluxe is announced. That's true.
Starting point is 02:46:28 Oh my God, how did they know? There's a New York one coming. They're so ahead of the curve. I told y'all the New York one was coming. All right, Rory, you're the fucking hip-hop psychic. Didn't I get it from you? I don't know. What's the New York one coming?
Starting point is 02:46:45 You gotta say it here. Is it good? I said it to y'all and y'all was like, yeah. We can edit that. Oh, then I didn't care then. I don't know. Either way, I'm going home. I'm out of here.
Starting point is 02:46:58 Hope you had a blast. Hope you YouTube. Hey, leave a comment. Maybe we'll read it. Leave a comment. Subscribe. W read it. Leave a comment. Subscribe. Wipe up. Swipe.
Starting point is 02:47:08 Wipe up? No, wipe up too. That's great advice. Some of you niggas don't wipe up. Stop fucking bitches that wipe down. Get the baby wipes. Come on, y'all fucking bitches that wipe down. Some of y'all still.
Starting point is 02:47:19 It's nasty. Stop doing that. Listen, I want to thank y'all for listening. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there until the next time I bid you adieu farewell adios
Starting point is 02:47:31 hasta la vista Arrivederci D-Melo you know the vibes Joe missed Dykin so much just want to go up there and just walk around that's what you think
Starting point is 02:47:44 I'd be wanting to do just walk around places especially Dykin who doesn't want to walk around Dykin I don't want to go up there And just walk around Restore the feeling That's what you think I'd be wanting to do Just walk around places Right Especially Dyken Who doesn't want to Walk around Dyken I don't want to Walk around anywhere
Starting point is 02:47:49 Yeah We out of here Remember life is a series Of moments And moments pass So let's make this one last As if it's all we have And that's that
Starting point is 02:48:03 I forgot whatever else I say on this outro thing. Something. Whatever. Any parting words from you guys? Worried about a lockdown coming in? No. I've been locked up. Yes.
Starting point is 02:48:17 It's normal shit now. Wash your hands. Wear a mask. Except for Atlanta and Houston. They're outside. Yeah. Come on. We need Atlanta trips.
Starting point is 02:48:25 Man, man, oh man. Do we do New Year's out there? No, man. Nah, I don't know about that. Nah, we can get back there January. Yeah, yeah, I don't know about that. Yeah, yeah. Rory, you know, just...
Starting point is 02:48:40 Gotta give him the... Gotta give Rory the ease from now on. Yo, Rory. Yo, Roryory we love you man yo man fight the good fight yo the A is still beat in oh man
Starting point is 02:48:54 we'll FaceTime you while we're there you and Sam for sure whatever alright we're out of here hold it down
Starting point is 02:49:03 we'll talk to y'all on Saturday y'all enjoy the rest of the week stay oh my god a clean version ah
Starting point is 02:49:09 the fuck is that just start cursing Santana come on boy shit alright we out of here y'all hold it down we'll be back this weekend
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Starting point is 02:50:05 Get flex in there a little bit, man. We corny. Lied. Talking to his stomach. Never, ever said nothing about him. Never said nothing about him. Fucking lied. You're not cool to me.
Starting point is 02:50:23 Nobody wants to tell the truth. You're not the measuring stick You're not tough to me You're not the measuring stick of what street niggas listen to No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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