The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 395 | "Rubber Ball Paul"
Episode Date: December 2, 2020On this episode: Joe and the guys discuss the most anticipated fight of year between Mike Tyson and Roy Jones Jr. but somehow Nate Robinson's clash with Jake Paul was the main event (16:44). Joe then ...mentions a hypothetical Verzuz between two New York legends, Mase and Cam'ron (38:12 & 54:55), a recap of the Soul Train Award winners/performers (1:07:55), and the guys educate themselves on the controversy surrounding Mulatto's name (1:35:40). Joe then asks for predictions from the crew if there was a scenario where Dipset battled G-Unit and/or the LOX in a Verzuz (2:01:38) and more! Sleeper Picks Joe | N.O.R.E. - “Grimey” Rory | J Warner - Belong to You Mal | Jae Millz - “High Rollers” (Ft. Anthiny King) Parks | Roc Marciano - “Butterfly Effect”
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What was the first half of that?
Something to blazer?
Loosen up the time?
Open up the blazer.
Oh, yeah.
Come on.
You can't open up the...
That's what got you?
Listen, man.
I'm the only one that ever comes on this podcast
and says the rap lines that blew their mind
when they were growing up.
Y'all never do it.
I'm down to hear it from you.
I'd love to hear the Rory lines.
I would have to think.
That's a good question.
You must learn.
We do have to learn as white people.
Nas, I can really do this for me.
See, this is what Massapeel, that was Rory.
That was Rory Mass That was Rory mass
appeal. Damn, not the pyramids.
I had no idea.
You and your little edgy
jokes. It's cool. I'm a lotto.
Malato?
I see what's going on today.
Were we supposed to edit that?
I avoided the mulatto conversation
The whole time it was happening
And now Rory brings it right to my front door
In minute one
Now we gotta have it
Yeah we gotta do it now
For the streets
For the streets
We wait for the mulatto talk
It is for the streets
Don't do that
You ready Maze?
Party people In the place to be.
It's about that time.
What you know about going out head west,
red legs, TVs all up in the headrest.
That blew my mind.
That blew my mind.
Huh?
That blew my mind.
What?
TVs all up in the headrest?
Like, before you ever saw that? It blew my mind. What? TVs all up in the headrest. Like before you ever saw that.
It blew my mind that they were putting TVs in the back seat headrests for the trunk viewers
to watch.
No, just to have no one back there and they was on.
It used to blow my mind too, the niggas that had the rim on the spare, like, ooh, he had
enough for the spare?
Nigga put the fifth, he had the money for the fifth BB? Mic check, one, two, one, two. Mic check, mic check, one, two, one, two. Happy Wednesday out there.
That's what we do.
Hey.
Come on.
I wouldn't change you if I could.
I wouldn't change you if I could.
I wouldn't change you if I could.
Uh-uh.
Come on.
That was another one.
That was another one.
I'm the reason they made the dress code.
They figure I wouldn't wow when I'm in my fresh clothes.
That's a good bar.
That was another one for me.
I've said that a million times on this podcast before, though.
I mean, you can say that.
How many niggas that'll die for you?
How many get a quiche like a pie with you?
I ain't talking about those that get high with you.
Niggas know infrared on your head and they ride with you.
How many niggas that'll die for you?
How many get a quiche like a pie with you?
I ain't talking about those that get high with you. Niggas know infrared on your head and they ride for you, would you ride for me?
Why I'ma die for you, would you die for me?
Obviously we all know you type of cats Let they man get struck, never strike back
Stay in the streets seven days a week Shit get hot, you never blaze your heat
Stupid motherfucker wanna play me sweet So I keep him on his toes, that way he never sleep
Check this out, right?
Call him on the vibes And you don't want a problem with his guys
M-A-D-L-A-S-I-E
And if you ever out tryna find me I think I should warn you
I get hard when I want to Angeletti, bad boy
Niggas ain't ready
Yo
You the type of cat in the building
Holding the cracks
Yes
Talking niggas on the corner
Holding the gags
Yes, talk to Rory Mason, Beth
You the nigga never did
But seem to know the facts
Yo, I know niggas like you, Rory
And I
We back Yo, I know niggas like you, Rory. And I... More than likely.
Yes, sir.
Say, Vaughn, how old was you when this was out?
Don't nod your head like you know what's going on.
Huh?
Four?
Get out. Everybody's feeling good, feeling great, the gang is here. A lot of pressure.
How would you handle that?
She's in one of those moves.
Mace, what would you do?
I'd turn out all the hoes that's heterosexual.
Smack conceited niggas right off the pedestal.
I even look for my dad that I never knew.
Then show him how I look in my Beretta 2.
I do good shit like...
Basely, this is not the optic we needed for the Mace set.
When 24 hours to live is on, we don't need a dog licking all over us.
I'm going up in the kennel.
Teach niggas how to spin, stash the rest.
Give once to the niggas under massive stress.
Give every bum a one-inch free cash to invest.
And hope all the world's low will be my last request.
Oh, man, you can't cut it off on Kiss.
I probably eat some fried chicken and drink a Nantucket.
Then go get a jar from Branson. And make sure I leave my mother the money to take care of Grant. Oh, man, you can't cut it off on Kiss. What a morbid song.
Look how hardcore the depressing songs were back then.
Hey, this was mood music.
Sounded different than Black Cloud.
Yeah, these niggas was angry.
That's so good. Yeah, these niggas was angry. Spread it out on different floors. And I'm gonna play Lotto. For what? Even though I ain't gonna be here tomorrow.
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joe button podcast oh shit we're at the point where i'm giving rapper hands with the intro
oh what a loser welcome to 395 of the joe button podcast i'm your humble grateful gracious highly
favored and ko-free host.
Here with a few of my nearest and dearest.
Brother Maul is here.
Rolex showing you no divides when rich niggas is here.
Come on, man.
Parks is here.
Not even Budge.
Didn't even deny it.
Parks Valley is here.
Parks, you got a little belly over there.
You've been eating, huh?
I just ate.
It was a holiday week.
Taking those weight gainer pills the baddies take.
Oh, my God.
Just taking his macaroon or whatever that shit is.
Hey, I've seen a before picture of that.
I'm Chimba.
All right.
Who else is here?
Who else is here?
Did you see it, though?
Just who else is here?
That's all we're going to know.
We're worried to see it.
Hey, guys.
Should we edit that
Volado line now
I think about it
No
Stay on that shit
We're not signing nowhere
E-Rab is here
Savon is here
Corey is here
And Alex the Great is here
I want to shout out
Our YouTube viewership
Shout out to niggas
Listening anywhere
But that god forsaken app
You know what's going on
Speaking of YouTube
Swipe up
Swipe up
Swipe up to subscribe And What do speaking of youtube swipe up swipe up swipe up to subscribe
and what do you swipe up subscribe and swipe up you guys oh and click the bell whatever the bell
does i don't think you swipe on instagram on youtube yeah that's just subscribe man you know
what the fuck i'm saying uh shout out to uh all black owned businesses still shout out to black
women still shout out the creators still shout out to everybody figuring out how to get by during this pandemic.
Still we got merch.
Hey, we have merch.
We got mad shit that we don't announce to you guys.
Designed by Ian.
Is this a whiteboard?
Y'all should know how to sell some shit.
We do have merch
We released a capsule
What?
We did
We did put out a capsule right?
It was a capsule
We put out a Rory shirt on Black Friday
By the way
That said Big Rory
No one's ever said that on this podcast
Or in the bedroom No one person I mean that is a fact Nobody's ever said Big Rory. No one's ever said that on this podcast. Or in the bedroom.
No one person.
I mean, that is a fact.
Nobody's ever said Big Rory anywhere.
No, they've only asked, is it in yet?
That's when you know they're lying.
Oh, Big.
Now, come on.
Stop it, Ma.
Stop it.
All right.
I feel it in my stomach.
No, you don't.
It's nowhere near your stomach.
Just be honest with me.
You're just going to fart.
If you're on.
Jesus.
If you're on YouTube, subscribe.
Fucking a chick with a bubble guts is hilarious.
If you're anywhere else...
If you're anywhere else with a subscription button,
press it there too.
And go pick up a big Rory t-shirt.
And buy some merch. Who came up with a big Rory t-shirt. And buy some merch.
Who came up with that?
Rory, shut up. Buy some merch
from our capsule. It's all sold out.
Especially the big Rory
shirt. First one to go.
It's all sold out. But if you buy some,
we'll press more.
Limited edition.
Ta-da!
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Rory want that Cash App money.
He put his poker face on during that little act.
Yeah, no, seriously.
Honestly, actually.
I mean, it's the wheel and then I think it's Cash App.
Yeah.
Maybe Fire.
Paper towels.
I don't think we get paper towels enough credit.
All right, man.
Let's get a streak.
That's what they've been waiting for.
Mulatto has been a really big issue out here.
Rory?
Rory, what say you?
Listen, if Sean-
Should that be her name?
If Sean King can be that, I can be that.
What a...
A white man.
Come on, let's start this.
How you doing?
Let's get the ball out the white boy's hands.
They're trying to create their own shot.
We got to set it up.
How y'all doing, man? What's set it up How y'all doing man
What's going on
How y'all feeling
What's going on
How was your weekend
You guys looking good
Look like you feel good
Hope you're refreshed
Rejuvenated
Come on talk to me
What's happening
I've been wearing
The same shit for two weeks
Sorry bro
We with you though
I just now changed
My sweats that I wore
The last five podcasts
I haven't cleaned anything
And I've been wearing
Black the last 20 podcasts Can you guys tell I'm. And I've been wearing black the last 20 podcasts.
Can you guys tell I'm down?
It's because you're
killing these niggas.
Oh, I didn't feel like that.
Yeah.
You didn't feel like
you was killing them.
I was feeling down inside.
Mo, you the only guy,
like, I was asking Rory,
do you have,
do you have, like,
a podcast stylist
or this is all your work
from the closet?
No, I's me.
I just grab shit.
I'm going to throw on.
Didn't even realize that I matched the orange with the Mets.
No, you know.
And the inside of the hood.
You got a lot of pieces with orange in it.
Yeah, that's one of my favorite colors this time of year.
Nigga got deep.
I don't care.
I don't care about your fucking favorite color.
Yeah, I thought we was going there.
Well, Maul did have a stylist
at our Sony Hall show.
Oh, yeah.
We had limited backstage wristbands
and one went to Maul's stylist.
Which got to take care of the stylist, man.
That's all it was about.
Yeah.
Okay.
Just supporting the stylist community.
That's it.
I feel you.
A good stylist is important.
True.
You know what I mean?
This is when I don't joke on mall.
I'm just letting the joke pass without adding French stuff to it.
Because it was a way better joke off mic.
Oh, you had jokes off mic?
I didn't hear it.
I was kind of waiting for him to spill the beans.
Well, not mall. Because the streets didn't say this about mall.
Well, if they did, I ain't going to own up to it.
There's some bullshit coming in.
The streets asked.
Oh, we have a question segment coming up.
Brand new question segment, but we'll get that.
Streets wanted to know if you believed in stylist exes.
Huh?
Do I believe in stylist exes?
What do you mean?
Yeah, like.
Or do you believe maybe we're just better off as clients?
I think better off as clients is always.
Do you think a stylist will dress you better if you maybe beat before?
You think you'll get all the newest pieces, some of the samples?
No, it depends.
It depends on what the situation was.
Like if y'all were fucking with each other and y'all stopped fucking with each other on bad terms,
I don't think it'd be a good idea to work with them.
Say you have a big date coming up and maybe you need your stylist's opinion.
Okay, this is like a broader question.
Let's make it a little broader because i was very hung up on the stylist like it like a
co-worker x yeah that you continue working with yeah i don't think this isn't this isn't personal
to mall no it depends this was this was a silly thing joe and i were talking about and we're just
immature yeah i'll never beat any stylists. No, I have beat stylists before. Yo, why y'all?
No, be clear.
I was trying to protect you.
Y'all always trying to jam me up.
Do y'all know how real I am?
No.
I don't give a fuck.
Y'all can never jam me up.
I'm never awkward.
I think he was trying to protect your anonymity.
Yeah, that's what I was trying to do.
It's a tough word to say.
I can't say this.
I mean, we ain't saying no names.
But yeah, I've done it.
I like women.
I don't care what their profession is.
You don't have a favorite profession?
No.
If they happen to be a stylist, great.
Send me some new jeans.
Rory, how was your weekend, man?
Horror hooker.
Yeah.
Profession.
Now I'm all getting clothes from the chicks he's beating.
Bring me some jeans.
If you beef with some khakis, you are a sick motherfucker.
Yeah, that's the boss.
We're done with that.
For the dockers?
Rory, how was your weekend?
It's about to be a silly pocket.
I can tell what's going on.
I can see what's going on in the air.
It's the best.
Rory, how was your weekend?
Take another chug.
You know, I existed.
You existed over the weekend?
We have to get you help, man.
No, let's start.
Let's start.
Let's do it right now, man.
I went to Joe's and sat quietly on the couch while company was there having a blast in
this exact outfit.
You didn't even go home after.
You just came straight here.
You just stayed there looking at your glass the whole time?
I may have smirked when Nate Robinson's face hit the campus, but that's what it took.
Nigga left before that.
I'm like, yo, Nate better go down.
It's fine, guys.
I'm going down.
I'm going to head out.
You know how hard it is to Irish exit when only
four people are in a living room?
And I was almost successful and then Joe
downstairs on the phone, like, yeah, where you going?
Home.
Oh, and then
during the Irish exit, Joe's door is
broken, so I can't get out of the house.
You hear that? Robbers and killers?
Which is also a fire hazard. No, they can't get in or out. You hear that robbers and killers which is also a fire
hazard no they can't get in or out you hear that muggers mugger you get mugged in your own crib
come right in so yeah i ruined my irish exit i had to go through the glass sliding door damn
is there anything that we can do to help no i don't i don't accept help. I shut down.
Okay.
I think we need a guys trip, man.
Yeah, maybe so, yeah.
We was talking
Miami New Year's.
All COVID people
are joking.
Or at least a strong blackout.
You want to just come over here
one night and just drink
a whole bottle of Jameson
and black the fuck out?
Don't listen to Parks.
That's a Monday.
Or whiteout.
Well, yeah.
How about that?
Or a mulatto out.
Gentlemen,
where would y'all like to start?
I'm done with Rory and his mulatto jokes.
And I'm done checking on his mental health.
It's when you mix the Jameson and the vodka.
Oh, gross.
And there it is.
That's our start, you guys.
The big ticket.
Only one of the greatest fight cards I've ever seen in my entire life.
The most entertaining sports weekend of all time.
Oh my goodness gracious was I glued to the couch.
Same.
And my dumb ass, since 8 o'clock, mind you, was I glued.
Yeah, same.
Hey, I was so glued, I almost purchased the women's exhibition event that was $9.99 right before.
No.
Well, I don't know.
I didn't order it. But I figured that couldn't have been the right thing if it was $9.99 right before. No. Well, I don't know. I didn't order it.
But I figured that couldn't have been the right thing
if it was $9.99.
So once I figured out how to order that thing,
oh, man.
Man, man, and man.
I enjoyed it.
We were there so early and invested,
we were actually discussing
that maybe Nate Robinson could survive.
I think a lot of people had Nate winning that fight.
He was in the dunk contest. I think people had me winning that fight. He was in the dunk contest.
I think people had me
winning that contest going.
I had him winning.
I mean,
for some strange reason,
I thought that
he would learn how to fight
before doing something like this.
Before taking on a fighting game?
Against a fighter?
Yeah.
See, I'm not even, I'm not going to keep calling Jake Logan, Jake Paul. What's his name? He's not fighter? Yeah. See, I'm not even,
I'm not going to keep calling
Jake Logan, Jake Paul.
What's the thing's name?
He's not even a fighter.
Yeah, I'm not going to keep
calling him a fighter
like Stephen A. Smith did all week.
He has fought in a boxing ring
and has been around a boxing gym
much more than Nate Robinson.
How about that?
He had one fight in a ring.
Man, fuck him.
On TV.
You can go fight in a ring now.
He had one professional fight.
Beat his big ass up.
Yo, killer or whatever, please set up the Joe button.
Jake Paul YouTube fight so I can watch Jake Paul put Joe in his fucking ass.
Well, we're not going to see that because Joe's not training for three months.
Neither did Nate.
But if I just see him in the hookah bar.
Oh, you know, I'm taking you in a hookah bar any day.
Don't try to maneuver in there.
Don't try to hype up your ring.
These great white hopes.
If you see that ring side,
I got you.
Listen,
no,
honestly,
I didn't know that Nate would run head first into every punch.
I didn't know that he would let his hands down.
Now,
the strategy of like,
put your head down and then rush at the opponent is insane.
Who taught him that? Don't even look at him. Just put your head down and then rush at the opponent is insane. Who taught him that?
Don't even look at him.
Just put your head down and swing your fist and go.
This was really bad.
This was hilarious.
Did you watch his feet at all?
Wait, he had feet?
First of all, he was wearing fucking basketball sneakers.
He was wearing Knicks colors, so we knew what time it was.
Yeah, but that's what got me to picking him as a winner.
Why? Because the Knicks colors, so we knew what time it was. Yeah, but that's what got me to picking him as a winner because I seen him get
rowdy on the
Knicks bench
during a scuffle.
Oh, you mean
where they're not
allowed to fight?
Yes.
You saw him
getting a slap fight?
I thought that
would work.
Sometimes you
fall for the guy
that's aggressive
when no fighting
is allowed.
Like, ooh,
I'm going to
get you.
But yeah,
this wasn't it.
I told my
homeboy two
weeks ago Nate
was going to
get knocked out
Cause I felt like
He took this white boy
Like a joke
He thought this was like a
He thought this
Jake Paul was a punk
He thought he was soft
And um
He was wrong
It was the total opposite yeah
He was big wrong
And I saw a video
Of Jake Paul like sparring
He knows how to fight
This is
Listen
I don't know
I'm suggesting that In a street fight Sure sure, take who you want to take.
That's way different.
This is the most technical sport on planet Earth.
If you get in a ring with somebody that knows how to box, you're going to lose.
I mean, let's not go so far given it's Jake Paul, right?
Let's not give Jake Paul all the, like, his hands don't look the greatest.
But he can do weight.
Like, that's not the greatest.
Jake Paul looks like shit. Yeah. He doesn't have to throw the greatest of punches. He's an amateur. But he knew, wait, that's not the greatest of punches. Paul looks like shit.
Yeah.
He doesn't have to throw the greatest of punches.
He's an amateur.
Yeah, but, no, okay.
Not anymore.
He's a professional now.
He's an amateur.
No, but listen, what I will say about, what I will say,
all of us should be able to speak to the unorthodox white boy, though.
Like, the white boy that you fight that he should know,
like, you should know what to expect, but he's unorthodox, so he might catch you because he's a big, weird white boy.
Jake Paul is just one of those white boys that he's been at a bunch of house parties fighting.
He's been at a bunch of bars fighting.
No, see, I have the exact opposite, too.
I think he's been at a bunch of house parties being nice to Negroes.
a bunch of house parties being nice to Negroes.
I think he's been
at a bunch of
a bunch of
I think he's been
at a bunch of
listening parties
being nice to brothers.
For sure.
But deep down
he had some inner anger
towards us.
He'll get it popping.
He'll punch you.
He'll pop on somebody
at the house party
for sure.
I don't think that he's
winning any real
boxing matches.
Well we're going to see
because now he's got
Floyd coming up next.
No he doesn't.
Well, if I can instigate it enough,
hopefully.
That won't happen.
Somebody from the black community
has to come and avenge this for us.
Nate just took 750 and boogied.
And now the white boy
woke up the next day
and put an A. Robinson jersey on.
The disrespect.
During Black History Month.
Joe, you are black
and a YouTube star. I don't see why you wouldn't be the perfect... And December should be Black History Month. Joe, you are black and a YouTube star.
I don't see why you wouldn't be the perfect...
And December should be Black History Month.
That hurt Nate, though.
This fight hurt Nate more than anything, though.
Why?
Because he called this dude out.
He was talking a lot of shit.
Oh, Nate, this is how this started?
Tell us the backstory.
I was unaware.
He called him out after his first fight.
After his first fight, Nate called him out and said,
fight somebody that's a real athlete.
You know, gave him all of that.
Oh, no.
Who was Jake Paul's first fight?
I have no idea who Jake Paul is, by the way.
I think he was some Indian dude, I think.
Yeah, like another YouTuber.
He fought a Z.
Something like that.
And, you know, so Nate said, fight somebody that's athletic.
He did.
So he's like, okay.
And he told Nate, I'm going to bounce your head off the mat like a basketball.
Rory has to fight Jake Paul now.
How tall is Jake Paul?
Look at Rory.
What's his reach?
When you get to that first.
What's his reach?
Rory, you know what?
Rory said something.
Rory was commentating during this fight, and he said something I believe to be a little shaky.
He kept screaming, but look at Jake. He's 6'1
compared to 5'9.
I was talking about the reach
not their actual height.
It changes everything. Especially if you're going to have a
fucking fight and you're running sprinting head first
into the punch. I could just do this.
So Jake Paul landed
8 of 21 punches.
Getting hit
8 times and falling down three times is fucking insane, man.
Yeah, but falling with your ass up in the air.
Look at his ass.
That's true.
He ain't even lay flat.
It's been one punch and one knockdown in my life.
I was honestly concerned about it.
I'm not about to sit here and act like I'm tough.
I thought Nate was really hurt, though.
Yeah, me too.
When he felt like that, I was like, that was bad.
He was really hurt.
I know they had to sign a waiver for whoever put this fight on.
I know they weren't liable.
Saying if you die, you die?
Yeah.
But I think the next fight, the amateurs will have on headgear.
They're going to have to.
They have to have headgear.
They're not going to let them fight like that again.
Nate, you my guy, but there's only one way to fucking redeem yourself, man.
I don't know where Spud Webb is
but you just gotta
go knock him out
where's Muggsy Bogues
every player that was short
you gotta go handle
Tyus Ednig
yeah Tyus Ednig
go find Tyus real quick
yeah
oh oh he puts something
out Nate Robinson
he says thank you everyone
for all the well wishes
I'm okay
I appreciate Triller
for almost getting me killed oh no he's still trying to fulfill his contract to get the back end of
the money he's got to do ig posts you know his contracts for the opportunity as well as everyone
that has backed me during uh the fight yeah you got back to my coaches wait see now this is where
i get confused to my coaches fuck you trainers. Wait, plural on both of them?
You're fired.
And teammates.
Nigga, you ain't have a teammate in there.
Allen Houston wasn't walking through the rink.
Maeve Robinson did not play with Allen Houston.
It wasn't the outcome that we wanted.
All right, who we played?
Derek Harper wasn't walking through that rink.
Derek Harper?
You made him older?
Mello's still available.
But I'm thankful for the opportunity to fight on the biggest stage that there has been.
Nate, don't ever do that again on the biggest stage that there has been.
Please don't.
Also, stay your ass home.
I heard some of his friends saying, oh, I respect him because he got right in the group chat and took the joke.
What are you going to do?
Never speak to your friends again?
He got to take that.
Because if he would have won,
he would have been talking his shit.
So now that he got knocked out,
he got to take all of that.
Yeah, you got to own that.
That's how it go.
White boy knocked you out.
You got to live with it.
See, where was he going?
Look at the punch that did it.
Yeah, no, this is bad.
They both...
That's not even a punch that did it.
That was like a windmill punch.
Jesus.
The overhand is not an effective punch.
That's crazy that that worked.
Word.
This was a great punch. I do want to commend Jake Paul for seeming to take this stuff somewhat seriously,
staying at it, staying consistent, even despite all the jokes from people like me.
Clearly, he has improved somewhat.
I wouldn't know because I don't watch him.
I didn't even know he was until this.
He looked like he had some idea
of what he was doing out there. No, he definitely knows
how to fight. Yeah, no, you hit him with the eight-hitter
quitter. Yeah.
He definitely knows how to fight. Or
eight one-hitter quitters.
But listen, the
fights before that I actually enjoyed too.
The whole card. The undercard.
And this is not an ad. Trilla didn't pay me.
But they could if they wanted to.
I mean, if they'd like to.
But I mean, I think we can conjure up even more favorable reviews.
Yeah.
But yeah, I enjoyed the whole card.
I enjoyed the opening fight.
I didn't know they were like four to five opening fights.
I wish I'd have known that before I sat on my couch at 8 p.m.
But the opening fights, they were
good, though. They were good. Some of them were really good. Yeah, I really
enjoyed them. They're real fighters.
Corey kept saying that the gloves
were oversized in all of these fights.
Did they appear that way to anybody else? I didn't
notice that, but I noticed that the ring looked smaller.
The ring looked smaller, and
the gloves did look a little bigger.
That's why the gloves look bigger.
Because the ring was smaller?
Yeah.
It could be.
Oh, I got to get a smaller bed.
They were over 12 ounces?
You said you got to get a smaller bed.
That was good.
That was a good shot.
This thing is stupid, man.
Then I'll really be massive.
Going to get you a good twin?
Get a twin.
Get you a good twin bed.
Then I'll get on top of her.
Giant dick is here.
So listen, we were in my house.
We were trying to call these fights.
The first fight was a good fight.
They both beat each other up and it was a draw or somebody won,
but we didn't care because they both beat each other up and it was a draw or somebody won but we didn't care because they both beat each other up yeah second fight came and it was a a tall long-limbed paws black man with incredible reach
and what appeared to be incredible defense but he was fighting somebody called the technician
and my money was riding on the technician and the technician technique did it
he did i don't think I saw that one.
That was a good one. This was my favorite fight.
Because the technician had no business winning that fight
if you just were looking at them.
But one clearly knew how to box.
The other one didn't.
Then came the beast, which was the big white boy
who you wouldn't want to fight at a bar
versus the guy who had mad experience.
He was like a champion mad times.
They paid him mad money.
He got paid like 90,000 times more than the other guy.
I was like, all right, this guy should win, and he did win.
He went eight rounds and didn't sweat or look like he was out of breath at all.
I really enjoyed the performances that were between this.
We got all of these good fights and a French and Sway Lee sighting together.
Looking like they spoke to each other since Unforgettable was made.
Four times in a row.
Same performance.
I didn't care.
Every time they came on, I said, look at French's Dior jacket.
It was a great coat.
That was a nice coat.
Yeah.
They look good.
Oh, look, they even danced together a little bit.
Yeah, no, they gave him a two-step.
I love when there's that part of the song that neither one of the artists will do live,
so they have to dance together.
Especially when it's a really tall guy and a really short guy.
Sway Lee will not bring Slim Jimmy anywhere anymore.
They could have used the hype man if they did it four times.
He's not on that record.
So what?
That's his brother, they told us.
Bring him out?
For years.
We have to get over rappers pretending to be family.
Didn't they tell us that?
Are they not real brothers?
I think they are.
That's the part the niggas missed at that Migos altercation on the red carpet that year.
Shit, Slim Jimmy almost beat me up right before then.
Yeah, you've a rough time
with families that's pretty funny work who else who else performed Wiz and Snoop Snoop
oh and St. John yeah that's pretty crazy he got like the headline slot yeah uh YG oh yeah YG was
his set was dope To the whole LA crew
Yeah
Well yeah
Everybody's in LA
Staples
More was you backstage?
No I was in the Bronx
I was in LA
Why didn't St. John bring you up?
You could have been the hype man
I'm not a recording artist
Are you the Slim Jimmy of
The John family?
No
I will say I gotta give
St. John credit for not singing
To background vocals
I was impressed He tried to keep St. John credit for not singing to background vocals. I was impressed.
He tried to keep it rock star.
Are you devil John?
No.
I mean, it was an acceptable shot.
I'm not saying it was a bad one.
It hit the rim.
Yeah.
I'm just getting shit up there now.
I'm not mad at it.
Oh, so this was good, man.
Listen, again, I'll pay.
Oh, we didn't even talk about the mic, right?
About saying I'll talk about mic?
Holy shit.
The best part of all of it, by the way, that we didn't touch upon is Snoop commentating.
Oh, yeah.
It's true.
That shit was hilarious.
Grandma, they out there fighting again.
Snoop definitely has a new gig, for sure.
Yeah.
But see, I wanted to ask you, because you say new gig,
and the consensus was that Snoop was the star and he killed the commentating gig.
My response to that is, this is not the first time that Snoop has commentated.
No, not the first.
So my question to y'all is, he's done All-Star weekends before.
He's done the celebrity basketball games before.
And he's been good.
But my question to y'all is, was he so much better here because he was allowed the freedom in this on
doing this unconventional card because he probably can't say some of that stuff on disney yeah he
can't curse he can't say some of that stuff about real fighters but doesn't this lead to if if snoop
is correct doesn't this lead to we had this talk on here don't we want to see sports with like the real niggas
commentating,
like saying the real shit?
Absolutely.
Definitely.
That's going to come soon.
Specifically with boxing.
We're going to be able
to pay for that.
Definitely with boxing.
At least with boxing
because it's all pay-per-view anyway.
It's not on cable TV.
So,
curse.
Yeah,
I mean,
I don't really care about
like the Cardinals game.
You can leave that to NBC.
Listen,
Tyson looked great.
I think one of the important things to point out is that neither one of these gentlemen
were hurt, bloodied, or knocked out.
That was a good fight, too, actually.
I think that would have put a damper on the night.
That was a great fight.
I really enjoyed that fight.
I was mad that it was only eight rounds.
And for a minute, it said six rounds, and that was really tight.
Yeah, they kept switching it.
Yeah.
They switched it like three times.
I thought they was going to the corner, letting them know, like, nah, we only going six. I thought that's exactly what it was. Yeah, like, we only going it. They switched it like three times. I thought they was going to the corner letting them know like, no, we only going six.
I thought that's exactly what it was.
Yeah, like, we only going six.
Fuck this.
But yeah, it was a good fight.
Mike looked good.
He looked to be in better shape than Roy, honestly.
No, he didn't look a thing.
He was in better shape than Roy.
It didn't dawn on me that Mike may be the more technical boxer today.
I just didn't think about that aspect of it.
No, he looked quick with the...
He looked quick all over the place.
It looked like Roy didn't get knocked out
only because Mike was adhering to the rules.
Yeah, he could tell.
No, I was actually sure.
It was.
Yeah, they didn't turn it on.
They were smart.
Roy looked good, too.
Roy looked good.
He's got the weird style, so it looks weird no he still had quick i feel like
roy did look good because he's 51 years old mike is 54 so i mean let's put that out there yeah
i also think there's a part of roy that looked good because they talked before the fight and
said all right let's not kill each other maybe so some of that showboat and shit hey that's
that shit he kept doing from back in the day i know it used to kill you when it was coming yeah he might have died if
he kept doing that fucking with mike one of them swings where mike missed is like all right roy
mike looked like he's getting tempered it was a pretty good fight man he was he was smart he was
smartly wrapping up tyson all the time so he couldn't get no blows in yeah they weren't throwing
um if you look at you at a lot of the replay,
they weren't really throwing super deadly punches.
We'll pay to see that again though, right?
Absolutely.
Is there anybody else for Mike to fight in his age range, age group?
Yeah.
How old is Bernard Hopkins?
He's right there, 50, I think.
Yeah, maybe 49, I would say.
High 40s.
50, yeah.
Wasn't there talk about Holyfield, something like this at one point?
I don't want to see Holyfield do that.
Wait, really?
He's older than Mike.
Yo, B-Hop is that dude.
I never knew he was.
B-Hop is that dude.
Oh, yeah.
He's older than Mike.
He was fighting older anyway.
When he was like in his prime, he was older than everybody.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Oh, we need B-Hop versus Mike.
That would be great. I wouldn't be mad at that. Is B-Hop still in shape and shit? He just boxed last year. Oh, yeah. Oh, we need B-Hop versus Mike. That would be great.
I wouldn't be mad at that.
Is B-Hop still in shape and shit?
He just boxed last year.
Oh, okay.
Who knows?
Yeah.
I don't think I would pay again.
I would.
Oh, you crazy.
They're getting $50 from me in a heartbeat.
The homies were streaming this shit.
They can't pay for this shit.
At the end of the fight, he's like, oh.
They pulled both of them to the stage.
The dude grabbed both their arms.
I'm like, fam, what are you doing?
Draw.
I said, he's about to throw both their arms in there.
He threw them both in there.
It's a draw.
I'm like, what fight was you seeing?
I get it.
We can't pick a winner.
Tyson definitely won that fight.
But I thought it was not a blowout.
I thought it was a pretty good fight.
Yeah.
I thought Roy looked good.
After the post fight interview
when they was asking
Roy all this shit
and he found his voice
he was just real talkative
I'm like yo fam
you should chill out
and then they was like
so would you do that again
he ain't
Roy ain't wanna rule it out
but he ain't wanna do that shit
he's like I am not
fighting this nigga again
like that's not happening
no fucking way
how impressive
how impressive would it be
If it's true
That Mike indeed
Did smoke weed
Before this fight
I 1000% believe he did
Yeah I definitely think so
It wasn't no drug test
He went and got that
What's that weed he said
He was getting
The good shit
The turtle
The toad
The toad
Nah nah
That's a hallucinogen
You can't fight on that
You don't know
He could have been on the toad
You can't fight on that
That's no
But he definitely Hit the weed for sure I know Zab is younger than them But how much younger is Zab You can't fight on that. You don't know. He could have been on the toad. You can't fight on that. That's no.
But he definitely hit the weed for sure.
I know Zab is younger than them, but how much younger is Zab? No, Rory.
No.
No.
Just no.
Zab's got to be, what, 40-something?
I don't care how old he is.
He better not get in the ring with Mike Tyson.
He's younger.
That shouldn't happen, Rory.
Yeah.
Let's just step on that one.
But overall, good fight.
You can get $50 from me anytime.
Shout out to Trilla for putting on
an amazing event shout out to both rory i'm rory rory and i'm here shout out to rory rory and mike
that was just awesome it was great yeah i liked it yeah i want to see it again now i'm mad that
there's no no entertainment like this oh no we got a fight this weekend too right do we
Do we?
Earl Spence, right?
Oh, yeah.
Hey!
That's a fight.
We're back.
That's a fight.
We back.
Him and I'm Garcia, right?
Oh, no.
This is a real fight.
Yeah, this is going to be a good one.
This is a rematch, right?
No?
Is this a rematch?
No. They never fought before.
No.
Clearly, we're not Bob Arum.
Never pretended to be.
That's going to be a good fight, though.
Yeah, it is.
But I like Errol Smith
This was like boxing versus
It was kind of
Didn't it feel like that?
Yeah
What was like boxing versus?
Roy and Mike
This Triller fight
Well I mean I wouldn't say
Who would Nate be?
Versus should have an undercard like this though
Not for nothing
We talked about that
like I think a five record
ten record thing
a five song
could be great
I'm still everyday
trying to come up
with somebody I can beat
in the three song battle
it's tough
my career was so trash
wait what are your three again?
I'm not doing this
what would be your three? I'm not doing this. No, no. What would be your three?
I haven't decided on the third.
What's the second?
I'm not saying that in the way you think I'm saying it.
There's the obvious one.
I'm saying, well, what are your two?
I'm saying it because I think you have more than-
You know Joe going pump it up in the black cloud.
You know that.
If you pull out black cloud in a versus,
don't ever speak of Will Smith's name
again
nah
I might have
I might have had
too much dip on my chip
with my Will Smith take
I agree
I come in here
and admit when I'm wrong
and I probably
don't think I could beat
Black Rob either
you said you could
beat Will Smith
or Chingy
and Jaquan's hard too
Chingy is definitely tough
you said you could
beat Will
that's what you just said?
I let it go when you said it the first time.
But if you're going to keep repeating it,
then all right, I'm here.
I'm just trying to figure out
how your brain works sometimes.
That's all.
I have to come in here and provide content, Maul.
No, listen, listen.
It's fire in your three.
I'm trying to give you a five.
I think you could go five.
Pump it up up in the club.
Well, you can't play that In these times
Is this clubbing?
I don't remember the name of that shit
Listen
What do y'all think about
What do y'all think about
That's number two
That's hilarious
Don't fucking head nod at me nigga
What do y'all think about
Mace doing a versus Is what i wanted to ask y'all
i'm mace dick riding today but i'm from holland so it's okay that'll be a long night for somebody
whoever he verses against now you feel like that even though mace's uh catalog as far as our albums
anyway is shorter don't matter because he was so feature heavy he wrote a lot yeah so that's still
a long day for someone.
We're New York biased here, so we were all going to say that, but
who would be an appropriate matchup for
Mace? I mean, obviously you would go
Cam.
Just the history with them.
That's a nice one. I like
that matchup a lot. Yeah, you would go
Mace, Cam. Pick a winner then, Rory.
That's tough.
Off mic, we were saying... I didn't say anything. I didn't say a word off mic. I didn't say anything. That, Rory. That's tough. Off mic, we were saying...
I didn't say anything.
I didn't say a word off mic.
Y'all were saying Mace with a blowout.
I didn't say anything.
That was Rory.
I didn't say a word off mic.
I think Cam is hanging for sure.
He is.
Cam might win that.
Yeah.
Give me a score.
I'm not mad at somebody feeling like Cam will win that.
Give me a pretend score.
I'm not mad at that.
Cam has a lot to pull from.
Yeah.
Give me a pretend score.
Cam got a lot of dip set shit to pull from. Yeah. Give me a pretend score. Cam got a lot of dip set shit to pull from.
Yeah.
That's tough.
Now that I think about it, that's tough.
Just thinking off top, I would go 11-9 Mace.
I do think Cam could win that, too.
I might go 11-9 Cam.
Me, too.
Yeah.
Cam has a chance to win that.
Yeah.
He does. And I think there's going to be a lot of draws
where I'm just like,
I don't know what wins there.
Yeah.
Is Cam like the hood favorite
in any hood matchup?
Because I'm thinking Bleak
because I'm a huge Bleak guy.
But maybe Bleak loses to Mace and Cam.
Yeah, he does.
Yeah.
And no disrespect to Bleak.
No, Cam is a different animal.
Please, y'all know how I feel about Bleak. I love Bleak, but Cam is a whole he does. Yeah. And no disrespect to Bleak. I love Bleak. No, Cam is a different animal. Please, y'all know how I feel about Bleak.
I love Bleak,
but Cam is a whole different animal.
Yeah.
With his solo shit,
dip set shit.
Yeah.
Cam writing shit too.
You forgot about that.
And features,
not for nothing.
Mm-hmm.
No, we got to set up Mace Cam.
Yeah.
That would be a good thing.
The more and more I think about Cam
is more than that.
We have to set up Mace Cam.
If we saw Gucci versus Jeezy,
we need the New York version,
which is not that,
but still.
Yeah.
Do Mace and Ghost then.
I don't think Mace beats Ghost.
I don't think Mace thinks
he beats Ghost either.
Yeah.
You could pull Ghost.
Let me not say that.
Ghost is another one.
Let me not say that.
Mace might feel like he beats Ghost.
Mace has those colossal
fucking number one hit records.
I love Ghostface, but I think Mase beats Ghostface in a versus.
Ghost got some shit to pull from, man.
Well, triumph wins when that comes on.
I'll tell you that one.
That would be interesting, too, though, to see a Ghostface.
Just Ghostface sit there and just be Ghostface while his record's playing.
I would like to see Ghost in a versus.
Yeah, I just want to watch him perform his records.
That's it.
He has to have on a robe
and the gold eagle
the eagle thing
in my jiggy
for sure
I think Ghost is doing that
before we have to
remind him to do that
he's doing that
I think that's how
Ghost does that
in his crib
when no one's like
he goes to Whole Foods
like that
he goes to Whole Foods
like that
facts
is that one of the more
recognizable
and identifiable like rapper pieces ever made?
Absolutely.
For sure.
Got it.
Got it.
All right.
Where were we at?
Where were we at?
What's really important here?
Well, for you.
Important?
Flex versus stomach.
Who will win?
Now, update me on this, because I just caught wind of this shut up you know
no i honestly don't don't pull on me you you saw you watched i just saw someone someone stabbing
someone with something and i saw a long flex uh caption but i didn't read out that's what
i don't want to see that um but i don't know what this is it looked like funk flex was pulling one of the pulling a
bernice not even bernice it looked like funk flex was shouting out his surgeon to get the free lipo
that that's what we need i know everyone's focusing on flex getting lipo let's talk about
flex getting a discount on lipo and doing the post now we're gonna clown him because we're such a legend we're
gonna clown him because we're men and this is hip-hop and you got to be like rah rah rah in
hip-hop i understand that but do y'all remember how flex used to look he used to be big so i mean
family have lost all of that weight and now want to handle the parts that didn't lose so easy like is it horrible i know
we're gonna kill him anyway uh if it's for his health cool good for flex i hope so but not he's
gonna get clowned fam he just put his body on instagram getting lipo when i came out
i'm not trying to flip it when i came out and said hey you'm not trying to flip it. When I came out and said, hey, you guys,
some of your favorite rappers may be getting lipo. Y'all said, shut the fuck up, hater.
It's not a big deal. I didn't say that. That's what niggas said. I said it's not a big deal.
Yes. All of you said that. And now y'all want to clown Flex for taking the sides off?
Fam, just go to the gym.
Getting a little fat out the armpit?
Just go to the gym.
There's not an armpit machine in there.
It is.
It is.
There is.
Yeah, there is.
There is.
I wouldn't know.
I'm not going.
Because you're getting the lipos.
Listen, do y'all have any thoughts on this that we need?
This is absolutely nuts.
This is bonkers?
This is nuts. This is bonkers. This is nuts.
This is crazy.
This is one of those, and I know people were looking forward to a segment from us on this.
This is fucking wild.
It's too easy.
I just want to leave it alone.
Stop looking for segments from us on shit.
Yeah, this one was too easy.
Just go to the gym, man.
Or if you want to get a procedure done, don't post it.
Just don't post it.
Yeah.
If you want to go get lipo, that's your business.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's your business, but still, just go to the gym, man.
Like, come on.
Well, Mo, there's been some rumblings of the amount of weight you lost so quickly.
And you said you've been in the house.
I just changed my diet, bro.
That's all I did.
Just changed my diet.
If you're calling Flex, this is the greatest podcast of all time.
Flex is at the Wellness Center recovering.
Cannot answer the phone.
They take your phone from you.
He's busy deleting his old photos off IG.
Yeah, they put you in a quiet room.
They have like waterfalls.
I just want to know if Flex was teased about it.
I just want to know if Flex was teased about his curves.
They put hot stones under your feet.
You can't answer his phone right now.
They don't want no radiation in the room.
He's on the table.
Yeah.
He's at the wellness center.
No radiation.
He's got his butt vacuumed
like...
Edit the name.
He caught it.
Y'all ain't never
turn on the gram.
Look, that's the TV now.
Turn on the gram.
Turn on the gram. Y'all ain't never turn on the gram. Look, that's the TV now. Turn on the gram. Turn on the gram.
Y'all ain't never turn on the gram and see your old work in a butt vacuum.
Listen.
Look, all right, don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
It's cool.
Only my old bitches was getting their butt vacuumed in Englewood.
Isn't that where Rory got done last week?
Nice shot.
That was a solid shot.
Rory got his butt vacuumed.
Been back ever since.
Been back every day.
By the way.
First name basis at the butt masseuse.
Right after I saw the Ian Design merch,
I get a call from Keeb to talk to me about my ass.
I love you, Keeb, and I appreciate it.
It was just a lot of-
Did he give you some ass advice?
It was a lot of management at one time.
Keeb was like, just gotta breathe.
He was managing your ass?
Yeah.
He's trying to take 20%.
Roy, you got the Butt Masseuse app on your phone?
They have one?
All right, I'm out.
Well, Roy, we get excited.
I'm out.
I'm out.
I'm out. Stay home? We I mean, I can stay home.
We done.
We done.
I don't have to sit
on this donut anymore.
I, for one,
want to support
Funk Flex
and his body
transformation.
You about to get it done?
No.
I'm already slimmed down.
Listen, man,
Tyler, the creator,
had a point.
He's leading up
to a joke right now.
No, that was it. That's a joke. That's leading up to a joke right now. No, that was it.
That's a joke.
That's one you have to research.
Or you can't.
You can't say that, can you?
Tyler out there bagging all the rappers too.
It's just like,
why do you just go that far with Tyler?
All right, come on, let's move on do you just Alright come on let's move on
Let's move on
What music came out
None
Alright Tyler
Back to these niggas
Well let's get all the guys
About the way
A$AP Rocky's dating Rihanna
Surprise
Oh they back together
Ta-da
Okay
Good for them
Awesome
Yeah
Alright
Killed that
Deep dive
The Kings Alright what else is here?
No Ceilings 3. It's here. Classic. Got your lighter. Should have went triple.
Lil Wayne, this was a dat piff release, right? It was, which I appreciated. I like that.
Let's do mixtapes again. Please. Let's make shit sort of free.
Who's doing mixtapes again? Nobody, Let's make shit sort of free. Who's doing mixtapes again?
Nobody, but Wayne is.
I didn't listen to this.
And I like, yeah, rap on other people's beats.
Remember when that was a thing?
For two decades?
I didn't listen to this.
It disappeared right away.
I didn't go to Dat Piff and download it, number one.
Number two, I'm not all the way over all of those uh racism doesn't exist
statements from wayne but and i don't assume that that to be addressed on a freestyle
nor was it why i would go listen to this
did you listen oh yeah i did how is it well give us a hot take yeah break it down i like it
track by track it's like how's the sequencing uh sequencing was good was it? Well, give us a hot take. Yeah, break it down. I like it. Track by track. How was
the sequencing? Sequencing was good. Was it digestible? I really enjoyed the interludes.
No, it was cool. Wayne is still in shape. Yo, we don't listen to none of y'all projects
that come out. I'm tired of tap dancing around it. Twice a week we don't hear y'all.
No, we listen to it.
I listen to it.
I don't know if you've noticed the trend.
It's just too much music, man.
It's just a lot.
But there's some records on there.
There's some good records on there.
Oh, you used to do them all?
Yeah, I do.
But I just hate that I got to go to Dat Piff.
I even have the Dat Piff app.
I do too.
So I would listen to it.
Yeah, when it's not centralized somewhere i forget yeah
but there's some records on there obviously the drake the bb king freestyle is the standout record
what what i'm agreeing with the takes oh yeah no there's some records on there i don't want
to seem like we don't listen i listen so it's just too much like 20 tracks it's just a lot of music
but wayne is obviously still in shape he's still one of the best rappers
in the world
um
Corey Gunz
the three headed
goat joint was hard
yeah like that one
it's some joints on there
it's a lot of rapping
yeah I forgot
I forgot it came up
I'm about to download it
I don't think you can
download it
oh really
yeah I tried to
and they said no
stream this.
Yeah, you just got to open the app,
that Piff app, and listen to it.
That's all that's using on Apple yet.
Anyways, A$AP Rocky and Rihanna.
Did you not even hear the BB King freestyle?
Joe, you completely ignored No Ceilings 3?
I don't listen to rap music.
Okay.
That's my take. Fair enough. Leave me alone about it. Do't listen to rap music okay that's my take fair enough leave me alone every week i come in here to joke with my friends
no i didn't hear it yeah i didn't hear i'll go listen though they both killed that
they both killed that wayne and drake got over would you like to hear a taste
yeah give us a little sample, everybody. Let's go.
Hey, the blues is now kicking and dinner is three Michelin.
I don't eat red meat, but still got beef sizzling.
Know that I need discipline.
I keep singing for all these hoes.
They keep listening.
Niggas love to brawl with the boy and that fizzes, but we are not equivalent, dog.
I've been the only child, don't need siblings, and I'm past them like the times that he's living in okay man
everyone is always a bear you be like he's sick in it if you know what this
guy not gonna keep kicking
no see what's calendar whoa okay wait wait
it's caliber winding for me hey yeah all right like the real mixtape vibe Khaled did this. Whoa. Wait. Wait.
Is Khaled rewinding for me?
Yes.
It gave like the real mixtape vibe.
Remember how the mixtape used to be?
Yeah, but on that joint, just let it play.
Are you just going to hear it go off?
I wasn't mad at that.
That's one of those I don't need the DJ.
Trying to pawn the replay.
Yeah, you hating on DJ culture.
Yeah, it's mixtape.
I'm not mad at that that I think there's some songs
on a mixtape
where you can just
let it play
no pawn the replay
no more fire
like just
you wanna heal up
wheel up
listen that's not a new thing
for me
I was even mad on
moon music
like on point
shut the fuck up
I used to be mad
at all the niggas
that is the mixtape
standard though
clue
stop shouting out the Coliseum.
I missed the bar.
Let the locks play.
I can't hear the bar.
Let the locks play.
Yeah, but that record is hard.
Just shout out the Coliseum.
The fuck?
Hardest Jadakiss bar ever.
Shout out the Coliseum.
But that sounded real good.
I need to go get that.
Wayne killed that shit.
I heard another Drake snippet leak.
Did you guys hear that one? Well, you know
the Drake record we
have that we talked about but couldn't play?
Yeah. That's the same flow.
So when that came on, I was
like, alright, is this the new Drake flow?
One of his new ones, I guess.
Did y'all like that flow?
I like it on that, and I like it on that other song.
So I'm going to say two for two.
I'm done.
I'm done critiquing
Drake flows.
Why?
Finished.
Well,
he did seven records.
It's because it's a trick.
You know the irony
about you going off
on that Views record?
That was Views
that you went off on
about, right?
Yeah.
Great album.
The more I listen to that album,
that might be
Drake's best album.
Sorry,
stop right here.
It's a big hot take.
I like his views.
Views aged really well.
Okay.
Listen to that album.
I did.
It's like,
it's records for everybody on that album.
It's not Drake's best project.
Okay.
Sorry.
So you don't count so far going in this?
I feel like we do this once a year,
so I'm not doing this.
I think we just did this like three years ago.
I just feel like as time went on,
the Views album
this is like a
really really good album
like complete
top to bottom album
yeah I agree
I just don't think
it's his best
but yeah
I agree with that
like there's all kinds
of records
on this shit
like records that
other artists would be like
yes I would take that
and put that on
I'm talking about
not just rappers
all types of artists I've already come on here and say that i was and said i was
wrong about that no no we i know that i don't want to keep repeating how i'm just saying that
you was mad about that is that now that i listen to this this might be his best album i don't i
don't want to judge drake flows anymore because it's a trick like like 40 or somebody comes up with a beat they invent a pocket he fucking spaces out
words invent some new shit and the first time you hear it it tricks your ears into saying
man get this bullshit the fuck out of here and then six months later it's the flow for the next
decade everyone's using it yeah so i'm not doing that anymore. Reasonable.
He tried to get me on that little
snippet that came out with the weird flow.
I heard Drake got a little project
coming soon.
You mean the album he's been promoting?
Dropping in January
that he's been promoting?
That he set a date for?
No, something before his album.
Oh, like a four-pack, two-pack?
You must have been in LA
No
He must have sent you
A little note with your candle
Drake didn't send me a candle
Yes he did
No he didn't
He didn't send me a candle
You want one
You got the Drake fragrances
Drake sent you a hat
With a lipstick stain on it
No
Did you see the little
Press release that came out
That said the Drake candle
Smells like Drake
That's kind of swag though
I wouldn't even hate on that
You want that You want to smell Drake When you go to came out that said the Drake candle smells like Drake. That's kind of swag, though. I wouldn't even hate on that.
You want that?
You want to smell Drake when you go to bed?
You want to smell Drake before you go to bed? Spray it on your pillows.
Joe and Wads for the night to light the Drake Cine Can.
Imagine lighting that and Shorty walking in your crib like,
that smells familiar.
What is that?
I can't put it together.
But I know that smell.
Nah, I know what chicks to invite over if I want to smell some drink.
Yo, that's funny.
Slaps knee.
Ta-da!
Alright, what else is important?
Nothing?
Great.
Let's get right back to Mace versus Cam
and instigate some great shit for New York hip-hop
because we're a biased New York podcast.
I like it.
Big facts.
Cam was on that...
That song was called Dipset.
Yes, the leader of Dipset.
He was on there, right?
Well, I only get confused because I think there's like four records called Dipset Anthem.
Like I call Dipset, Dipset, Dipset.
I call that Dipset Anthem.
No, it's not.
What's that called?
I don't know.
Dipset Anthem.
Might just be Dipset.
Might be just Dipset, yeah.
Listen.
It wasn't the Anthem.
So if that Dipset Anthem record comes on, Which is one of the hardest records ever made in New York history
That's true
Mase got nothing for that
That was one
Alright so now what do you do when Niggas Don't Start Something comes on?
I really mean it
Mase is on that record
No no no
In response to that record
He just said
I really mean it
No no
No I'm saying Niggas Don't Start Something versus Dipset Anthem
Who gets that point?
Dipset Anthem
Dipset yeah
I'm 30 though
So don't mind me Maul Dipset Anthem I think Dipset Anthem. Who gets that point? Dipset Anthem. I'm 30 though, so don't mind me.
Maul? Dipset Anthem.
I think Dipset Anthem respectfully
beats anything in Mace Place. And the more
I thought about it when we took a quick break,
I got Cam beating just a lot of people, period.
Not just Mace.
Cam might be crazy in a versus.
Yeah.
Yeah. Cam got wrecked. I don't think a lot
of people want to see Cam he is our New York Gucci
he's also hilarious
so that works well
I actually think
Jimmy is more that
but
that's just me
I'm gonna get someone
on the phone today
someone will answer me
come on man
let's instigate this thing
come on buddy
give me something good
I think New York needs this this thing. Come on, buddy. Give me something good.
I think New York needs this.
I'm going to work on this behind the scenes.
I don't think they would agree to that.
I don't think it would happen.
Where were they at after their back and forth with those
two records?
I don't think they've spoken since.
Come on, Maul.
Give us the Harlem politics.
Peace this up for us.
I'm only saying this because I asked Mace that this morning on the chatty.
He says no.
Wait, Mace is on the chatty?
Mace is on the chatty.
I was supposed to do his welcome room, but I forgot.
His welcome room.
They hired you for that?
Did you play Welcome Back?
Did they hire you for that?
Yo, some of us are going to have to start coming up with fees on these new fucking apps.
Like, y'all are calling for me to host these rooms.
I don't know what that shit costs.
Right.
Yeah.
Don't try to fucking fool me back into walkthrough money.
That being the new walkthrough is hilarious.
Yo, these niggas be trying to trick you in their walkthrough bag right now.
Look, now this club be packed.
I got three grand for you, all right, but what's the capacity?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, when artists learn how to ask what's the cap?
Nah, it's 10,000, but expenses.
Yeah, I know.
It's always expensive.
You don't know where our overhead is.
You're going to take an L booking me in this 10,000.
You're going to lose, but I'm going this 10,000. You're going to lose,
but I'm going to do my best.
I'm the expense.
Damn, man.
Now I want to see this.
All right, off of this.
Off of this,
because I'm going to get
emotionally invested.
Look at Maul's brother
and everything.
And Maul.
Maul, take some credit
for your contributions
to hip hop, man.
Were you in this video, Maul?
I'm not even being, I'm not even joking.
No, I was home.
Okay.
All right, what else is important?
Here we go.
Let's have a real man discussion here.
For men, when the only safe space is left for us.
Sometimes as men, when we evolve, when we mature, when
we grow up, adulting,
we stop being children,
our taste in
women may
change, right?
Finally gave up the bartenders.
You don't like cartoon characters anymore?
You know, sometimes
I just be trying to generalize things.
And you guys find a way to zoom in right back in the Joe.
Yeah, but no.
Take that, Parks.
Maybe I don't like the cartoon characters anymore.
You don't like Flex?
You got a shake on him now?
That was a good one.
They're going to walk into the surgeon
and get the flex package
what waste
those little freestyle bids
will never be the same
oh my god
you gonna be standing up
in them shits now
you gonna be sitting there
giving the verse of your life
you gonna stand up
show you the sides
flex I'm kidding comedy style comedy style listen sometimes as men You're going to be sitting there giving the verse of your life. You're going to stand up, show you the sides.
Flex, I'm kidding.
Comedy style, comedy style.
Listen, sometimes as men, you grow up and your taste in women changes, which is awesome.
You broaden the scope and it's a beautiful thing. Until you run into a situation like Maul and myself have run into recently, where now him and I seem to be bumping into each other quite a bit
in the romance streets i've witnessed a few times i'm not even romancing
no you ronnie romance no i'm not you are i'm by what hitting the like button you know what you're
doing devil john i'm just trying to understand what you. I'm saying that we've been seeing more and more of one another.
On Instagram?
In the comments.
With women.
We've been bumping into some of this.
We think some of the same women are flying.
Well, you've admitted that you went to my followers or who I was following,
and you started following a few people.
I never said that.
Yes, you did.
I never said that.
Yes, you did.
No, I do not need to do that. 100% said that. What is he talking about? Yes, you have said that Yes you did 100% said that
What is he talking about?
Yes you have said that
I was lying
But wait you never did that with me?
No
You've said that before
Yo if you're the only one that gets to lie on this podcast
I'll quit the pod
I have not done that to you
I'm being honest
I will start a new pod
Joe quit that pod I'm telling you I haven not done that to you. I'm being honest. I will start a new pod. Joe, quit that pod.
I'm telling you, I haven't done that.
We know some of the same people.
No, no.
We want to fucking...
We want to penetrate some of the same
infrastructures.
How does that make you feel?
Come on, man. What's that adjective?
She's for the streets?
I'm not going to say all of that.
That's where that led me Parks
Mo has been on this podcast
Before saying
If it's not his
It's for the streets
Yeah if it's not my girl
It's for the streets
Which is why I never say that
And I happen to be
Part of the streets
It's really simple Joe
See where I'm going here
Come on
It's really simple
It's always the woman's choice
If she decides She wants to fuck With a friend of always the woman's choice If she decides
She wants to fuck
With a friend of mine
That's her choice
If she decides
She wants to fuck
With a relative of mine
That's her choice
It's a bunch of y'all
Getting pussy now
Off of it's a woman's choice
It is though
The pandering
The pandering
Technique is getting
A lot outplayed
But it is though
That's why we
Her body
Her choice
It's the truth
It is the truth So what the fuck You weird niggas Gotta keep think pie. Her body, her choice. It's the truth. That's what we want. It is the truth.
So what the fuck you weird niggas got to keep think piecing it about.
Yes, it's the truth.
Her body, her choice.
Yeah.
No, that's all I'm saying.
So if I.
Can we help the choice?
If I dated someone.
Can we lead her to the right choice?
I only don't kick your back in the DMs with these women is because I don't know if you're
doing it to me on the other end, so I'll leave it alone.
I don't get down like that.
Oh, good, and I'm on it.
I don't even talk about other guys.
If I know that a girl that I'm talking to knows a guy that I know, I won't even bring him up.
I don't talk about him.
Do you think that you could be in a polyurethane relationship with me and one of the girls that we like?
What does that mean?
Polyurethane?
Except you stand at the table and you want it to like what does that mean polyurethane except
you stay in the table and you want to like shine you put the polyurethane polyuramist
polyurination i don't know what that means you know the word come on yeah it's when you're in
a committed relationship with with other like mad people yeah like you and joe would date the same
one could could me you and a young lady be in a relationship together?
Specifically the one that we all like.
You guys gonna live together?
That's weird as fuck.
Hell no.
You guys have bunk beds?
Your mom thinks everything is weird.
Me?
That's weird, bro.
It wouldn't be weird
because you would be
the mixie boyfriend
out and about.
How?
And hopefully I would be home
and you would go home
and you'd drop her off to me.
But what if mom was like tired and wants to spend the night too?
No.
Listen, you can't put a price on.
All right, nigga, go in the bathroom.
All right.
Go put a towel down and lay down.
Nah, I can't date nobody.
I can't date a woman that my homeboy is dating.
I can't do that.
No, you're dating her together.
Yeah.
Nah.
That's not our culture.
You can't put a price on convenience.
You guys work together.
You're in business together.
I don't think our culture does that.
Whose culture do it?
Take this to the next level.
That's the whites.
You guys could split our bills.
I don't think the whites do that either.
There's a whole show where the whites are doing that.
What are you talking about?
I'm not him.
Yeah, we don't do that.
That's not our culture.
Oh, do y'all want to get into shows now?
Not the whites.
Shows.
Whites analysis. They're taking The Office off Netflix. Yeah. Peacock. Oh, The Office. want to get into uh do y'all want to get into shows now not the whites shows whites analysis
they're taking the office off netflix yeah peacock oh because nbc is doing this steve
carell did his chapelle shit yeah he went on ig and said don't stream my shit it's heading over
to the cock okay to where the cock nbc oh gotcha all right right. But I mean... Thoughts on it? Anything?
The cock is going to be a force to be reckoned with.
It's not called the cock, right?
It's the peacock.
Peacock.
And that's NBC, all NBC shit.
Yeah.
They got all the shows, though.
I was a St. Peter's peacock.
We don't care where.
That was the mascot of my college.
Pussy.
Joe, you lived down the block.
Relax.
You was a peacock of Jace.
The Office is a classic show But I think if you watch
All of them twice
That's enough
I've seen them all six times
And still not enough
Oh you like to keep
What
Yeah
The Office is great
The Office and Seinfeld
I can watch whatever
Curb is better than Seinfeld
Hot take
This is white things
Curb I can also
We can move on
We can move on
I don't want to lose the point
That the pandering men thing is getting
a little outdated. That's all. Pandering men?
Eh. And I'm sick
of Netflix giving me these fucking British
shows with the voiceover dub.
Netflix has
been slipping. I'm not going to lie. Netflix has been
slipping for them to raise the
subscription fee
a month. Yeah, it's like $18 now.
Oh. I don't know if I's like $18 now. Oh.
I don't know if I got the 18 for you anymore.
18 is aggressive.
It's a little aggressive.
Yeah, they slowly... Especially if the cock is $7.99.
Yeah, they're slowly getting to that $20,
that even dub.
Listen, I pay $25 a month
for some chick called Betty Boop.
What's that?
That's just an OnlyFans.
It's a porn site?
It's an OnlyFans.
I got that page.
It was like,
the 25 is aggressive,
but...
She looks great.
I might have a buck 50
going out on OnlyFans a month.
And be mad
when bitches don't upload
some shit.
I check every morning.
Like, ah.
Oh, come on.
White.
Check out my new content
for $20.
I'll be like, like Oh why she ain't
Holding in a while
Come on
Give me something
But that's gotta be
Like really disappointing
When you pay $25
And it just be her
IG pictures
Or her sucking her man dick
Or her ex
And she wants me
To send you a little text
About it
Hey
Really going to work
On John bitch
I don't give a fuck About, really going to work on John, bitch. I don't give a fuck about John.
Really going to work on John.
Yeah, what are you DMing me about this for?
Oh, man.
Is there anything else that we have to...
Oh, Netflix being trash.
We did that.
Netflix is raising the price
of its most popular plan to $14 today.
Premium tier increasing to $18.
What is the difference on Netflix
between premium and regular?
Maybe the premium has good shit because the regular does not currently. Might be the difference between Netflix between premium and regular? Maybe the premium has good shit
because the regular
does not currently.
Might be the difference
between Pornhub
and Pornhub Premium.
Higher quality.
Who has Pornhub Premium?
Longer vids.
Who would have that?
Weirdos.
Damn, man.
Bring Bang Bros back
while we at it too, man.
I gave y'all the password.
They're fans of the pod.
They came to the Miami show.
I think it stopped working.
No, it works.
Still?
I mean.
I ain't need the password.
I'm 30 seconds of shorty catching the bus was enough for me.
Yo, you got to relax.
Hey.
You be ready, ready.
No.
You be ready, ready.
I'd be buying into Bang Bros like this shit was Santa Claus.
Like, how do they keep picking up these girls off the street
and fucking them in a van?
How dope are they?
Jesus, all they say is, hey, you want to come in the van?
And they just get in.
Yeah, give me 30 seconds to hitchhike it.
And I'm cool.
That's funny.
Those chicks in those videos
be like, no, I would never do that
for about Two seconds
Like
Fine
Shout out to all the beautiful ladies
Listening from all over the world
Yeah we love you
We here for y'all
And porn stars
That get in the vans to fuck
Yes we love you more
When was the last time
Y'all fucked in a car
It's been a long time
Years
Car sex is horrible
It's over for that right
What
Yeah
After a certain age
It's like man listen We going to the house Alright what do y'all want to talk about Soul Train
Awards or mulatto gate I didn't even see this whole train or so you know do y'all
know it's our responsibility to talk well that's why you're part of the
problem I didn't say that either but you're gonna watch the Grammys I'm not
watching the great just talking wrap the Soul Train Awards
from what I saw
Will Smith could never
from what I saw
they had some really good performances
and it seemed like
a few of the right people won
and it seemed like
a lot of people enjoyed
not only enjoyed the event
but supported the event
more this year
than I've seen in recent years
with the exception of last year
are the Soul Train Awards
attempting to make a
resurgence or or or are we the people attempting to make a resurgence i think it's a little bit
of both yeah i think a little bit of both at this point i would like to see anything about the
grammys i just think a lot of people feel like that. Soul Train Awards fit more of the music that we champion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
More popular music.
And I don't know what their system of voting is, but the Grammys is terrible.
We say all this, man, but then you'll go and talk to each and every artist, and you'll get half of them to say, I really like the Grammys.
Nah, I'm not rolling.
I'm going to stay over here where they like me where I have someone
on the board
well because the Grammy
for years has been
the award as an artist
that you aimed for
you know what I mean
like that is the award
but now if we change
that narrative
and we make it like
the Soul Train Award
is the award that you
aimed for as a black artist
then you know
that's what it is
let me see some of the
performances
I know Snow was there I saw her I saw Brandy there and what I didn't like oh that's what it is let me see some of the performances I know Snow was there
I saw her
I saw Brandy there
and what I didn't like
oh that's gotta be awkward
was there was a
there was a man
Brandy and Snow
there was a successful man
on Instagram
that congratulated her
with this long diatribe
that made me think
that he might have been bae
I didn't even finish reading it
didn't even get through it
that was John from OnlyFans
whoever it was he was John from OnlyFans.
Whoever it was, he was going a little too hard in the caption.
I said, ah, it's over for me.
Damn.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Get him next time.
I mean, sometimes you got to wait it out.
Tell him the dude is more efficient to see when the girl he wants got away.
Just got to throw that rod back out there, buddy.
That's it.
Who else performed?
Snow performed.
PJ Morton. Holy shit.
Stokely performed with Shantae Moore, Shanice, and PJ Morton.
Mm-hmm.
Soul Train Cypher.
What was I doing?
It's a cypher right there.
And I didn't come in here and give it up properly on the cypher that Brandy and them did at the BET Hip Hop.
I didn't give it up properly.
They killed that.
No, it was really good.
They did kill that.
They killed that.
They all killed it.
Yeah.
And each time I was waiting for one of the verses to be subpar, they weren't.
I wonder if they all wrote their parts.
I don't care because they performed shit effortlessly.
Yeah, they killed that.
I'd like to see more of that.
They should continue that.
Tiana killed that.
They all did.
Her did.
PJ Morton, I love you, man. I see what you're doing. You should come to this show. Yeah. They should continue that. Tiana killed that. They all did. Her did. PJ Morton,
I love you, man.
I see what you're doing.
You should come to this show.
Yeah, that's my guy.
Yeah, come to our gospel show.
Never would have made it.
That's my shit, though.
Oh, the Bieber version?
No, PJ Morton's.
He has a version of that?
Yeah.
That's like one of the most
popular gospel songs of all time. Yeah, he should have. His's like one of the most popular gospel songs of all time.
Yeah, he should have.
His father is one of the biggest pastors in New Orleans.
He should have.
There's about seven versions of PJ Morton doing that.
PJ Morton's the man.
Come up here.
Yeah, it's my guy.
Shout out to PJ.
Let's see.
Song of the Year.
The winner, Chris Brown and Young Thug.
Go crazy.
How y'all feel about it?
I like it.
Sure.
I like it.
Sure.
I would have been my first choice, but I'm not mad at it either.
Still on the Summer Walker snub train, but it's cool.
Me too.
I like that.
That come through record can win in this category for me.
Big record.
They gave her album of the year.
Album of the year, Summer Walker, over it.
Absolutely.
Over the weekend, Jhene, Chris Brown, Chloe Ailey, and Brandy.
I'm not mad.
Video of the year, Beyonce, Blue Ivy, St. John, Wizkaley, and Brandy. I'm not mad. Video of the year. Beyonce, Blue Ivy,
St. John, Wizkid, Brown Skin Girl.
I like that a lot. That's from the little
movie thing, right? I mean, it was just the Lion King.
Look at Parks about to get mad. Look at Parks about to get mad.
Best R&B soul female artist.
You guessed it, Parks. Her.
Take that. She is probably
the best R&B soul.
That's what I told you last week when you said
she keeps racking up nominations. Did she have a project on this year? No, but it don't soul. That's what I told you last week when you said she keeps racking up nominations.
Did she have a project on this year? No, but it don't matter.
It's her.
Did you see her at the Roots picnic?
No, actually I didn't.
Y'all let Janelle Monáe perform every
year for the past 15 years without an album.
So I don't want to hear when
her does the same thing.
That's not true. Whatever. She pulled it out last
year. And that was good.
It was really good.
Yeah, she's dope.
Got it.
Best collaboration.
Winner again, Chris Brown featuring Young Thug Go Crazy.
Yeah, Chris Brown had quite a day.
Yeah, and he won Best R&B Soul Mail Artist, Chris Brown.
He should win that every time.
No disrespect to everyone else nominated.
Best New Artist, Snow Allegra.
You know the vibes.
Oh, go back, the vibes oh go back
go back go back because that category was gibby on late and green lon or i don't know i'm not
familiar with them saint john and victoria monet i would like victoria monet there only because snow
to me is not a new artist neither is victoria moneta right well as artists artists got it you
know artists yeah rhythm andars what the fuck is that
R&B
a flip
Rhythm and Bars
yeah
I'm not mad at it
R&B is bars now
oh this is like
this is like
when the Grammys
when the Grammys
introduced
Melodic
Best Melodic
right
yeah you gotta change
with the times
I like Rhythm and Bars
you was clowning it
I don't think it's fine
and I like it
because it's another category
that gives an artist
actually a chance
to win
a chance to win
a chance to win a chance to win a chance to win a chance to win a chance to win a chance category that gives an artist actually a chance to win. A chance to win.
Cardi, the winner of this is Magna Stallion's Savage.
See, but this is where I have an issue with Rhythm and Bars.
What's Rhythm on that record?
On which one?
Come on, man.
On Savage?
That's not right.
You know what they mean by Rhythm and Bars.
They mean the Melodic shit.
What's Melodic on Savage?
I could see the remix.
Beyonce definitely did Rhythm and Bars on her verse.
True. It doesn't say the remix, which it I could see the remix. Beyonce definitely did rhythm and bars on her verse. True.
It doesn't say the remix, which it normally does if the remix won.
It's rhythm.
It's not melody and bars.
It's rhythm.
I mean, come on.
They did this on TikTok.
So it's anything with a metronaut.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anything with a four count.
Yeah.
Answer me this.
Was she on beat?
Yes. Well, there you go.
Which is rhythm.
And was she rapping bars?
She had bars.
All right.
All right.
That's it.
Got it.
I got it.
Hey, listen.
Best gospel inspirational award.
Body Rich the Box
needs to win rhythm and bars.
Let's just make that clear.
Yeah, I'm not mad at him.
But is it there?
Was he nominated?
Yeah.
Yeah, he was nominated.
Best dance performance, Chris Brown and Young Thug Go Crazy.
He really racked up.
Best gospel inspirational award, Kirk Franklin.
Okay.
Soul Train Certified Award, Brandy.
Yes, Queen.
That's a rich.
Yes, Queen.
I'm not back on the PJ Morton thing, but PJ put out two amazing gospel albums within the time that that could have happened.
Just don't give it to Kurt because Kurt always gets the gospel awards.
Yeah, Kurt is the bar for gospel.
PJ is bodying that genre right now.
Soul Train Certified Award, Brandy.
We did that.
The Ashford and Simpson Songwriters Award.
Black Parade written by mad people.
Okay.
Oh, there's more?
No, the bold one is the only one.
It was her.
Yeah, I Can't Breathe.
Oh, got it, got it.
I Can't Breathe, written by her, written by Summer Walker, Bryson Tiller, London Holmes,
Kendall, Brock Bailey, Cameron Griffin.
All right, a lot of people.
A lot of people.
Latoya Luckett?
Beyonce's on there, too.
Wait, hold on.
Wait.
Let's get into it.
What is I Can't Breathe?
That's the Summer Walker, Bryson Tiller record. All right, well, where's the Beyonce? in there too. Wait, hold on. Wait. Let's get into it. What is I can't? I can't breathe. They must have sampled something.
That's the Summer Walk
of Bryson Tilling record.
All right, well,
where's the Beyonce version of it?
They probably sampled something.
And where's...
Got it.
Yeah, because that's why
those people would be there.
Oh, yeah, no.
I see Destiny's Child
all through this.
So, yeah, it must be the same.
I need to re-hear that song.
Yeah, they did it at Coachella.
Except for without the other two.
Scream and continue to scroll, please. And that is all of it. song yeah they did at coachella except for with the other without the other two screaming continue
to scroll please i think and that is all of it damn i will go back and watch the soul training
wars now yeah i'll probably watch it i heard it was really good shit though the nominees seem
great and the winners seem great i don't have anything negative to say i was just busy that
night um so i will go back and watch that. Congratulations to all the winners.
Congratulations and shout out to all the performers.
And I would like to see,
if we're not going to get our own award show or create one and make up one,
then I'm totally down for all of us getting together
to support the only black,
truly black award show that we have left.
Shout out Soul Train Awards. Yeah, I'm train awards yeah i'm with that i'm with
that so that would be nice right yeah soul train awards you see our biggest guy you see hobe and
drake and cole and kendrick and summer i would be there yeah that's important i'm culture now
what would you wear look now these niggas want to let me be culture. He's so funny. 12 years I was trying to do it.
Now they're like, nah, bring Joe.
I appreciate your maturity because I can see the resentment.
Like, all right, man, now y'all like me?
It's a valid reason to have resentment, right?
What else?
What else?
What else?
Soul Train Awards. We did the greatest fight card in the world. That Jasmine Sullivan album. a valid reason to have resentment right um what else what else what else soul train awards we did
the greatest fight card in the world that jasmine sullivan album i'm just predicting might be i
haven't heard a thing outside of the record she's released but which she is on that two for two is
a different two for two yeah oh this album might be nuts rory definitely spoke to jasmine last i
wish jasmine please call me i'm putting out an album together. You want Jasmine on your album. I would love.
I actually have a verse open right now.
When does her album schedule to slated to drop?
I don't know when it's slated.
Slated.
You haven't seen the slate lately?
I hope she doesn't put something out with non-original music.
I don't know what that means.
I'm just playing with Rory saying non-original music.
That's it. I have no idea what that means either. We don't know when that drops.'m just playing with Rory Saying non-original music That's it
I have no idea
What that means either
We don't know
When that drops
Cool
What's coming out Friday?
That's a good question
We don't know shit anymore
That's a fact
We'll know Thursday
What are the powers
That be doing to us?
It's hard to find out
When artists
Like we even
Even on days
That shit drop
We find artists
That we didn't know
Was dropping
Facts.
I'm real happy
with that Jim Deluxe.
I know I said
I was going to get into that
last week.
I did.
I'm real happy with it.
I was also really shocked
to see that
when the 19th song went off,
the old album came on.
Yeah.
So.
And just reminded you
how good the first one was.
I didn't even realize
I was in that shower so long
until my skin was on the floor.
Rock Marcy came out on streaming services.
It was previously.
Yo, don't interrupt Park's brain, all right?
Specifically on his website.
Yeah, but now it's on streaming services.
They got to ref a Long Island, man.
Yeah, I'm happy for Rock Marciano, too,
because he's been one of the dudes for a long time
that's been keeping that boom bap
hip hop alive.
It's just dope to see him
finally being recognized by the masses.
You think Rock is boom bap?
I thought that was more rhythm and bars.
It's not really boom bap.
It's not boom bap, but it's...
It's grimy.
Yeah.
Shout out to Rock.
Rhythm and grime. There. Yeah. Shout out to Rock. Rhythm and grime.
There you go.
R&G.
Oh, no, wait.
Grime is now a genre.
Never mind.
Rhythm and coke.
No.
There's a lot of cocaine references on there.
We can have a conference tomorrow.
We'll go back to the table.
Rhythm and...
Allegedly.
It's fine.
What do you mean allegedly?
All right, so there's no music to get to.
There's no fashion.
I know.
Because we're the fashion podcast.
No, we're not the fashion podcast.
I think we would slay the Soul Train Awards as a crew.
Yeah, but we're not going to get into that.
Let me see what else.
I still haven't received my BET award.
What else is important?
A few of y'all hit me and wanted to talk about somebody twerking in a restaurant somewhere I'm not doing it
oh oh yeah that was the talk of the timeline for 48 hours and I don't know I was really late to
the party and I was only late to the party because typically as the internet does they
said it was Joe that was so angry at the restaurant and I clicked it and it indeed looked like Joe
oh I did see that the owner of the restaurant was telling him he didn't he was cursing people restaurant and I clicked it and it indeed looked like Joe.
Oh, I did see that.
The owner of the restaurant was telling him he didn't want to twerk.
He was cursing people out or something.
Yeah, he didn't want them twerking
in his restaurant.
I mean, at this point,
if you go to brunch,
you got to know people
are going to be twerking over your eggs.
Yeah.
Like, if you don't want that to happen,
go at 11 a.m.
Don't go at 4.30.
Play classical music.
Yeah, that changes everything. That's another video I didn't even bother to watch. I didn't watch it either.m. Don't go at 4.30. Play classical music. Yeah, that changes everything.
That's another video I didn't even bother to watch.
I didn't watch it either.
Yeah, a restaurant owner was very upset that he had people twerking at his fine establishment.
He said he set up for the culture.
I'm doing a much better job of just filtering some of the things that the internet tries to deliver to me.
I'm trying to.
That's actually been the only good thing I've done in 2020.
I'm so good at not watching things and blocking out things
that I already know, anticipating,
I know I'm not going to like that and just keep going.
I've gotten good at that.
This, though, is hilarious.
Because that restaurant owner fan, just shut the fuck up.
I respect that, though.
Because he's saying, like, yo, this just isn't that place.
Well, then don't play music that people want to shake their ass to. No, I'm not wrong with that. I respect that, though. Right. Because he's saying like, yo, this just isn't that place.
Well, then don't play music that people want to shake their ass to.
No, I'm not wrong with that.
I'm playing whatever I want.
You should not get up and just twerk over eggs.
I don't have to shake you. Again, I didn't see the video, so I don't know.
I only saw the video of him reacting.
I didn't see the twerking.
As a matter of fact, everyone looks like they're quietly sitting down.
No, at this point, everybody was chilling.
But before this, you know twerking is going to happen over some mimosas and eggs.
And if you're playing music that is
twerking. Wait, this is the video?
Fam, alright. She's not
doing a lot. Yeah, but he's saying
he don't want any of that. Like she's standing
on something. Oh no, I understand that.
Don't stand on my furniture. You can't do that
at my Sunday brunch.
Sorry. Yeah.
I like what he said. He was like,
yo, if you don't like it,
then go somewhere else.
I don't need your money.
I created this black-owned establishment
so we can conduct ourselves
a certain way here.
And this is just what it is.
I respect that.
Of course I respect it,
but I'm just saying that
if you play music
that is going to elicit
a certain response,
people are going to respond that way.
You don't always have to.
It's just natural.
Time and place.
Time and place.
It always goes back to that.
Time and place.
All right, Moe,
I might do the body challenge
over your French toast.
Deal with it.
But it's just crazy
that brunch became the thing
we're twerking.
It's like, okay, it's brunch.
The food is the secondary at brunch now.
That's the funniest part about brunch now.
I got nothing to do with food.
Yeah, it doesn't.
Just take pictures and twerk.
Just seeing if this made anybody want to twerk around the pod.
Park said it's a natural reaction.
It is a natural reaction.
Basley's over here doing nothing but farting by my shoulder.
This shit smells crazy over here.
Yeah, no, she's a farter.
Y'all want to get into the undoing?
It happened.
It happened.
It was undone.
Some of the greatest writing.
Mo knows the writer.
No, I don't.
It was, though.
So how'd you feel?
That shit had us feeling like,
people were naming the son as a suspect.
I was.
That just says it's great writing.
Because at the end of it all,
it was the person who it absolutely
made the most sense to be. Or did we just give the writers way too much credit? Yeah, that the end of it all, it was the person who it absolutely made the most sense to me.
Or did we just give the writers way too much credit?
Yeah, that's what happened.
No, it was brilliant writing.
Which I think we repeated multiple times
throughout the series of,
hey, I don't want to give the writers
too much credit at this angle.
Before the show started,
when I made everybody in the living room
guess who it is for a final time,
I did say, man, what if it's just the dad?
What if we're thinking too deep here?
Which is good writing, too.
I'm not mad at that. Yeah, but it was a letdown for me. Oh, spoiler if it's just the dad? Like, what if we're thinking too deep here? Which is good writing, too. I'm not mad at that.
Yeah, but it was a letdown for me.
Oh, spoiler alert, it's the dad.
Oh, if people didn't see it,
they just, you know,
it's too...
Well, some of them didn't.
I thought it was...
I think that is good writing.
Even though it may be
disappointing or whatever,
we went on a journey,
did we not?
I still have another theory.
No, it was a great
five and a half episodes.
I thought the end scene
was phenomenal.
Oh, please, jump. Jump off the end scene was phenomenal. Oh, please.
Jump.
Jump off the bridge.
Jump the fuck out of here.
Are you kidding me?
I didn't say that.
That's Joe's mind.
Tell yourself.
I took my kid.
I kidnapped my kid.
I drove on a bridge.
The cops were chasing me.
I hopped out.
Hopped on there to jump and didn't jump.
I would have loved to see him jump.
Or I would have loved to see him jump or i would have or i would have loved to see him
killed from the police i would have loved to see he's white i understand he can't jump because
they just said that he doesn't feel remorse he doesn't feel anything i get it even that was great
writing but so what man kill a nigga no it's part of it he doesn't feel he doesn't have you know
i mean that that in him like so i like what things wait so then he was just supposed, he doesn't have, you know what I mean, that in him. So, I like when things just go the way
they're supposed to.
So then he's just
walking slowly
toward his kid
and his wife,
Nicole,
whatever her name was,
Nicole,
Nicole,
Nicole,
wait,
don't leave,
nigga run,
run after her.
It's over,
it's over.
Can I give you guys
my new theory?
Sure.
Well,
we saw the show.
I have a new theory.
Give it to me. I think the husband and wife were in cahoots because she was on his side the whole time until she got
on the stand and they proved that he was psychotic and then he chose that behavior to make it look
like he really was to protect his wife from being caught no that's not we're sitting down
no the whole thing was his wife all of a sudden his wife
was uh all of a sudden he's really a psycho they prove it in court and then he reacts that way no
no no that's what happened was the wife is a she's a psychiatrist so if when you think about it now
the whole time she was really studying her husband throughout this whole process and she only really
knew he did it when she saw that he was really trying to say the son might might have
done it's like most girls and that's when it changed when she talked to her mom his mom i
think it's no she was that was her still learning studying him uh but she knew when he tried to
flip it on the son she knew right then and there oh you did it oh now when he was buying artists
uh buying art from this artist girlfriend he was fucking and bringing it home no clue huh what's
this painting?
No, but I'm just saying.
Hey, where'd you get this from?
She was saying that first. Oh, this is cause.
Yeah, no, but at first she was saying
that it's not in him.
She said it's not in him.
She didn't think he was capable of that.
Wait, cause is from Jersey, right?
He is from Jersey City.
All right, shout out to cause.
Don't do that.
Don't do that no more.
Don't do that, me.
Don't do that again, me.
Where's Bosque at from?
Brooklyn.
I thought it was Harlem.
Bosque at the nigga that be selling y'all the broken shit and we go crazy?
No.
Who's that guy?
Like, oh, I just paid 10 million and it broke, but it's great.
Amazon.
Yo, what's up with this guy, man?
Rory, what are you doing? i'm just miserable inside yeah amazon's
great everyone's great subscribe
uh but listen i enjoyed the undoing i'm a little i was a little low-key tight at the ending but
not mad enough to just throw out all the fun i had watching six episodes great it was great man
like i said we were naming all kind of suspects.
Somebody even thought it was the girl that died's son that might have killed her.
Fam, I don't even like the kill.
When they showed the murder scene, like the final scene, he wasn't even mad at none.
Yo, don't tell my wife a thing.
Oh, yeah, I will.
Every girl has said that.
You don't bang her head into the wall.
Facts.
Yeah, but you see he-
Wait, then he banged her head.
Pause.
Gazed in her eye.
Banged it some more.
She fought back not at once.
She ain't trying to scratch his face.
No, she grabbed the hammer.
She tried to get him out of there.
Nigga was walking out the door.
She grabbing the hammer to do what?
Get killed.
I was a little mad.
That's it.
I know Nicole Kidman's
family came from money,
but just hopping in the chopper
to follow the cop chopper
was hilarious to me.
Like, how you have
a helicopter that readily available
to just jump in
with your whole crew?
Like, yo, we all out.
Now we'll get them.
And then you landed on a bridge.
Listen,
when he's escaping, when he's kidnapping his kid,
and he's speeding, and the truck is coming,
he's going through the intersection,
and the kid is scared to death, looks like he's going to die,
and he didn't, please tell me why the kid is still in the car
from that point on.
Tell me.
What do you want him to do?
Stop, drop, and roll?
I want him to do what I would want anybody I care about
to do in that situation.
Unlock the door and stop, drop, and roll out of the vehicle.
It's 90 miles an hour or some shit?
Just shut up, Joe. Shut up.
Shut the fuck
up, man. Unlock
the door. Joe wanted this
shit to be die hard so bad. You want an 11
year old to unlock the door and stop, drop, and
roll on a bridge going 80 miles an
hour. What are you talking about? Only
when my dad has been on a killing spree and now he. What are you talking about? Only when my dad
has been on a killing spree
and now he's
fucking AWOL
from the court
and he's kidnapping me
through an intersection
and not caring
that a truck is coming.
Yes, I want you to
unlock the door and leave.
But you might kill yourself
doing that though.
Might, right?
Yeah.
So there's options
in that scenario.
Yeah, you might not die
in the car crash.
What were the options
in the other scenario?
Hope dad gets well before we get to the bridge?
I mean.
He's going to sit there for an hour.
Dad, what are you doing?
Dad, go back to court.
Dad, you're supposed to be somewhere.
Shut up.
All right, just to quickly get away from that.
My uncle fell out of the car when he was a kid on the Jersey Turnpike,
and the newspaper, because he got unharmed, rolled on the Turnpike.
Oh, those Irishmen.
The newspaper, this is how funny news used to be and how fine the world was.
The headline was, Rubber Ball Paul.
Child falls out of car on Jersey Turnpike.
They called your uncle Rubber Ball Pole?
We call him that to this day.
That's fucking hilarious.
Rubber ball pole.
That's what the newspaper called my uncle who fell out of a car as a child on the Jersey Turnpike.
This is a really good topic.
Y'all give me the wildest newspaper headline
that came out about your family.
I think Rubber Ball Paul
takes it. There you go. No.
You didn't win. Oh, God.
Really? You didn't win. I'll never put anything up
against the buttons. You didn't win.
My family's never been in the headlines
in a newspaper. What?
Your family started Rockefeller.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Your brother just came home.
Shut up.
Man clippings about your family.
But it wasn't nothing wild
about like that.
That was weed.
It wasn't nothing wild.
Oh, I was just talking
about Rockefeller.
That wasn't nothing.
Rubber ball Paul is crazy.
Yeah, but 900 pounds of weed
in your pocket is crazy too.
In your pocket is crazy?
Don't call them bigs for nothing.
That's not crazy.
No, that's not crazy.
Shout out to bigs.
Joking.
Of course.
What was the headline you were alluding to, Joe?
Well, I told you about my two twin cousins, Gina's sons.
Hey, Gina.
Hey, y'all.
You got mad twins in your family.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, that's true.
Interesting.
Well, go on.
I told you that
they went to the store
in Sumter, South Carolina
and robbed the store
for lottery tickets
and went home
and scratched it off
and won
and went back
to the store
that they robbed
and were quickly apprehended
and brought to justice.
Quickly apprehended. and brought to justice. Quickly apprehended.
Brought to justice.
Get these thugs off the street.
That's hilarious.
I'm sure that came,
I'm sure that clipping came out
in the newspaper.
I was about to call them,
but no.
That would definitely be in the newspaper.
How old were they? I don't know now, but they that would definitely be in the newspaper how old were they
I don't know now
but they were young
please tell me like 28
no
no no
they was young and bad
they better have been young
doing that
they was young and bad
they were like teenagers
yeah
that's fine
that's not fine
it's not fine
you shouldn't be that
it's understandable though
it's not
none of my family understood it
we were all confused looking back Sumner, South Carolina I've never's understandable, though. It's not. None of my family understood it. We were all confused.
Looking back, it's Sumner, South Carolina.
I've never been there, but I imagine there's not many corner stores that have the lottery.
There's more.
It's more than one.
It's not like New York.
You just have to find one.
The one that you didn't steal from.
I don't care how far we got to drive.
We just need to find another gas station where we can cash this in.
That's all.
That was like one time I was uptown
Ordering a sandwich
And you know how they got the scratch offs
Yeah
So
The dude
The dude that makes the sandwiches
It was late
He was working by himself
So he was making my sandwich
So
He goes to the sandwich part
He's making it
The other dude came in the store
He goes
He reaches over
And steals like Some of the scratch offs But he's making it. The other dude came in the store. He reaches over and steals some of the scratch-offs.
But he don't pee.
I could see,
it's a mirror over the grill.
Right.
So he could see behind him.
So I already see he's seen him.
So the dude's standing there
with the scratch-offs in his pocket.
So he had like a beer,
some other bullshit.
So I rang it up,
but it was more than just the beer.
So he was like,
yo, what's that?
He said yeah
Them two scratch-ups in your pocket
That dude was standing there
Looking so stupid
He was like
You don't think I was gonna see you
Stealing lottery tickets man
I saw a clip on the internet
The other day
Of a nigga in a gas station
I guess he was online
About to pay
But he didn't feel like paying,
so he tried to dip out,
but the door was locked.
So he just put the shit on the counter.
I mean.
I didn't steal it.
I didn't steal it.
It's here.
It's in the store.
Now that's fucked up
when they got the little
magnetized block on it.
Yeah, yeah. I don't like that. I accidentally robbed a got the little magnetized block on it. Yeah, yeah.
I don't like that.
I accidentally robbed a liquor store once.
Oh, you just walked out?
No, I was like 14 or 15.
And you know how you just be hanging around people that you don't really know like that,
and they be kind of off?
Yeah.
Cappas?
No, I wasn't a cappa before.
Pre-cappa.
This gentleman's name was Jesus.
Not his real name.
We just called him Jesus.
And why I knew he was off, he was a crip, and there was no gangs around.
He was just like a dolo crip.
He's a trincetta.
That's a little weird.
He's a lone wolf.
Yeah, he's a lone wolf.
He's a trincetta, man.
A gang, I always thought, all right, gang means a lot of people.
He was just a crip.
And I was like, all right, cool.
He should be around.
He was carrying an object that looked like a bat.
We was all chilling in front of a liquor store that was closed and didn't have a gate down.
This is how Patty Duke got in trouble.
He didn't say anything.
He just smashed the liquor store window open and ran in there.
It wasn't like we were not going to take anything out of the
front
yeah nah
why not
but like it wasn't
he didn't say anything
yeah
he just set the vibe
he set the tone for y'all
follow me
set the vibe
yeah
now this is what
we on tonight
I don't want to hear
Rory ever laugh
ever again laugh
at a dude
having a big bro
what being big bro
like you called
a nigga Jesus
that wasn't even Jesus he wasn't a crip either nah but that's but he had a blue rag on that's a little being big bro Like you called a nigga Jesus That wasn't even Jesus
He wasn't a crip either
Nah but that's
But he had a blue rag on him
That's a little past big bro right
He wasn't a crip
But Rory kept calling him cuz
What kind of liquor did you steal
Just anything that was in the front
Yeah when you're 14
You don't really know
I didn't know what the fuck it was
Nor did I drink it
Peach schnapps
I think all the big bros took it
Rory smashed the window
It was still a spritzer
Copped the Boone's Farm Right. Rory smashed the window to steal a spritzer.
Copped the Boone's Farm right out the gate.
Where the hell is Patty Duke anyway?
We never got an update on Patty Duke. That's what I'm saying.
We be letting niggas just sneak away when the doc come out.
Not Patty Duke in Bali.
I want to know, when we accidentally robbed a liquor store, no black people were harmed.
They profited.
Thank God. Thank God.
Thank God.
Good.
Good news.
So what'd you say?
Black people only profit when thievery is happening?
You said it, bro.
I mean.
That's exactly what you said.
Those were your words, Jesus.
Jesus.
I am a lotto.
I can make these jokes.
Rory, give us a lotto take because we keep talking about that
and I did see a lot of people talking about it.
I don't know enough about the young lady.
And to my knowledge,
this whole thing came up
because an interview came out
where she was saying
she's thinking about changing the name
because it's stopping some opportunities
or some people are getting offended.
And then a lot of people got offended
that she was thinking about changing the name
over, over...
Is that an offensive word three
things well y'all made up all the offensive shit so tell me so yeah three things i do want to know
what happened to patty dude second one i don't know who mulatto is and third i found out last
night that that was an offensive word oh is what is mulatto and no one has given her why is she
white black i'll stop saying i'm sorry i was joking i'll stop one has given me why. Is she white, black? I'll stop saying it. I'm sorry. I was joking. I'll stop saying it.
Tell me why it's offensive, and I'll happily stop saying it.
I didn't know it was offensive.
Matter of fact.
I believe they're gesturing us to the screen here.
The term mulatto.
Mulatto in Spanish commonly refers to a mixed race ancestry that includes white European
and black African roots across Latin America.
These are the two terms most commonly used to describe people of mixed race background what
i thought the definition was that's a slur wait mulatto is offensive now yeah that was that was
the big talk we weren't i know you and i weren't raised to think that was uh offensive no i know
people that are mixed that call themselves that like that was the term. That was always the term. Like the young lady in Questionnaire.
That was the term in neighborhoods
where they would be offensive with terms.
Mulatto wasn't one of them.
That's what I'm saying.
I never knew that this was...
The origin of mulatto was left out
by Daniel Webster in the 1947 printing
of his dictionary.
But it is a common term
from the southeastern United States
during the era of
slavery. It may derive
from Portuguese mula,
from the Latin mulus,
meaning mule, the hybrid
offspring of a horse and
a donkey.
Now we can understand
why that's offensive.
Basically, everything that this country is built on is racism.
Yeah, pretty much. Got it. That's the bottom line. I built on is racism. Yeah. Okay, got it.
Got it.
That's the bottom line.
So no,
I do apologize for my jokes.
I really never knew
it was an offensive term ever.
I really thought
that was a way
to describe somebody
that was mixed.
I've actually heard them
use that as a way
to describe that they were mixed.
Okay, well now that we've learned
that that is indeed offensive,
my next question for y'all is
where do you guys stand and
things that may or may not be offensive being used in art because she is an entertainer
and an artist right not one that i know to be purposely evil and vindictive, but again, I don't know much about her.
But I've never heard that she was purposely evil
or vindictive like some people that I know
and believe them to be that way on purpose.
So, and she came out and said,
hey, I'm thinking about changing it.
So I don't really know what all the fuss is about.
I don't have the range for this.
I take the back seat.
I typically, my rule now is I am not that.
And if that offends people that are that.
Pretty girl.
Then that's right.
If the people that you're talking about are offended by it, you should stop saying it.
But if she is.
Is she mixed race?
Well, I don't know.
But she's saying she wants to change it.
So she's not the person where she'd be upset.
She is.
Yeah, I don't know her background.
See, without me knowing
anything about this,
all weekend when people
were discussing it,
I just went to the
Washington Redskins.
Because for me,
it's kind of a parallel.
Like, a group of people,
a large group of people,
said that's offensive.
And a lot of people just kept watching football, even though there were polls and petitions and we were begging for them to change it.
But they did nothing for ever until the money was affected.
Yeah. Until the money was affected.
I just think now you have Mulatto who may be having some opportunities being blocked.
She may be having trouble with placements and promo and
just things of that nature. So to make it easier, I'm sure somebody on her team came and said,
or label said, hey, we might need to address this. And I know some people have to have the take of,
hey, you didn't know that was offensive when your name just helped that, or you had a team in place,
they couldn't talk to you about that before that, you signed to a label why didn't anybody but that's not how this thing goes all the time and
a lot of times you're improving shit or fixing mistakes on the fly as the public brings them to
your attention right yeah so i could totally see her having this name trying to be successful
running into roadblocks and then going back to change it once the fans alert her.
But I'm not with just hanging people
that don't truly deserve to be hung.
If the girl came out and said,
I want to change my name and I don't want to offend anybody,
then what the fuck am I investing all these emotions in this for?
Wait, is she under attack for her name?
This was the subject matter of the last two days in a very aggressive way.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, they were killing her.
People just want to know.
I really hope that stops soon.
That should have shot a lot.
I really hope we start saving our energy for the people we should kill.
Now, listen, if I'm totally wrong about this, I'm down.
Again, I don't have all the information.
I'm not totally knowledgeable about the young lady.
I can't say that enough times, so let me stop qualifying or disqualifying myself but i don't get it i
i was talking to my i get the offensive part though i was talking to my guy della yesterday
and he brought up a point that would be deemed corny and funny and we joked about how that could
be perceived this way but stop calling people out and call them in. If they don't know it, tell them.
There's people you should call out
that are doing some crazy shit,
but if people generally have no idea
and are interested in learning,
that call out shit is corny.
Tell them.
And then don't get angry at them when they go,
I don't know, I had no idea.
And if they mean it in a real genuine way
everyone's not familiar
with the
Latin roots
of words
yeah like
this is new to me
because I know people
that are mixed
that for years
growing up
they refer to themselves
likewise
yeah so I mean
you know
I didn't know
it was an offensive term
until just now
but I understand it
absolutely
it sounds offensive
now that we know
the definition right understandable I think it would be more of a problem if she wasn't herself just now but i understand it absolutely it sounds offensive now that we know that right
right understandable i think it would be more of a problem if she wasn't herself mixed i think
people could get outraged about that but she's mixed so i mean i don't know i mean you know
this is a hypersensitive world we live in now everybody's offended by anything so i get it
you know i'm
black and i wouldn't want to come out and say i'm mc nigger but if you say it it's okay because
just like we use the term amongst each other it's fine because i don't think i don't think that's
fine but that's me if we're using you don't think that we should use the term no i don't use it i
try not to use it around and like in a room full of like white people Like I definitely notice that about myself
Like if I'm out in public
Like I don't
If I'm with my boys
I don't use that word
But if we in the crib
Or we amongst each other
Of course I use that word
No you use it around white people all the time
You say nigga around parks and rural all the time
Oh those my niggas though
Yeah but see
Yeah that's where I disagree
And I'm not going to turn this into a think piece
but for us to have we may have understanding of where the word derives from and how we have
taken back control of the word and being something else and but we might have understanding of that
i can't expect for everyone that hears me use the word to have that same understanding right
and then some of that might rub off
and then they might think it's okay because it's a cycle to use it listen we've been to shows where
in the middle of whatever and the white kids are going great and they're gonna take it to
where they're gonna during the show you're like well me anyway what do i do like uncomfortable
here i've always wondered they're having fun right they don't know that i'm offended like when i they maybe don't know they shouldn't be saying this i don't know the culture in this
city i don't know like you know what i mean so i disagree with that but i understand it
and i do it but i don't it's like
it's like habitual if you use it so much you're just going to naturally use it around some people
who maybe don't have to understand i'm not going to think piece this out but that's my take
um off of mulatto we did undoing we do have to touch on everyday struggle coming to an end i
think that's important news what i'd say is it important news Or is it coming to an end
What are you questioning
Is it important news
Oh
Well I mean
Yeah it's
I mean
To this podcast
It's a show Joe started
It's not
I think it's newsworthy
And Wayno's my guy
Yeah Wayno's definitely my fan
I fuck with Nadeska heavy
Everyday Struggle
Is coming to an end
They announced this
I think December 17th
Is their final episode
But of course the crew wanted
to announce it a little earlier to uh let the fans give them the proper send-off and goodbye
I understand that you never want to leave that in corporate's hands for them to say hey cancel this
shit it's done yeah like you kind of wanted you treated a little better than that and that's what
they did um this is a show that I was initially a part of a show that i helped to create a show i spent some time with and was really proud of but they've had a lot
of different phases since my departure uh star has been there different behind the scenes people
have come go and come back um the legend star yeah the legend star uh absolutely and and the
legend wayno or on his way to being a legend, Wayno.
Wayno's definitely a legend.
Yeah, Wayno's been here for like two and a half years.
What's a hoot kid on there, too, for a second?
He did a guest.
Maybe it's a guest.
He did the guest thing.
Yeah, maybe it's a guest.
I think they did a couple guests at one point when they were doing the transition.
Yeah.
I only think it's important to note, because regardless of how you feel about the show
post me and during me, the show's had moments in this culture.
Absolutely.
And for it to be coming to an end, I don't know what it signifies for some people.
But shit, what that says about where Complex may be right now is interesting as well.
Like to just end the only daily show you have.
as well like to just end your dick the only daily show you have again that's back to companies starting as one thing and then adapting and becoming something
else I'm not certain what complex is attempting to become right now but I'm
all for watching it I'm not gonna say it's over for complex but I feel like
I've seen a lot less of their stuff editorial stuff everything what I think
I think they kind of made that adjustment when you had started
that show
that they focused
so much on YouTube
and their page
after that.
Granted, Complex,
I'm never going to say
Complex didn't have
a YouTube page before,
but it felt like
they went super heavy
and direct
to everything
they were doing
on their YouTube page
outside of the actual website.
I think they were
trying to drive more
to their YouTube page
than their actual...
They had the Hot Wings and the Sneaker.
Hot Wings is great.
Sneaker Shopping.
Are those still in production?
Yeah.
But what Complex does now,
at least with those shows,
is they upstream to
larger networks.
So they own these properties.
They upstream them.
They probably get a much bigger bag
than they got when they were only focusing on digital.
And then they own all the ads
and they own everything.
So that's what's happening.
Same thing with Spotify
wanting to own every podcast that they get
so they can put it out
and do what they feel like.
Got it.
Okay, these are all the shows that they have.
Oh, this is a mess.
You're going to say it's a mess?
You don't even know what's going on.
Joe is going to Joe.
I just want to make that clear.
At some point, Joe will Joe.
All right, this is beautiful.
Oh, man.
Why didn't I think of that one?
Well, I was happy with that transition
because I always appreciated Wano's opinion on this type of shit, like off mic and off camera.
I just always thought he always had a great point of view.
So I'm glad the world got to see that and Wano can do things in that space.
So I was happy to see that this ended great.
And shout out to those guys.
Yeah. Shout out to everybody on the show. No, shout out to those guys. Yeah.
Shout out to
everybody on the show.
No, shout out to
Wayno and Nadeska.
Ta-da!
Yeah, that's the only one
shout out.
Wayno, you know what it is.
Never met Nadeska,
but so love.
Nadeska's great.
Fuck with Nadeska. is never met in deska but solo the desk was great fuck with the desk
it's your show man you didn't give your long caption
the creators you didn't stream on twitch listen in a different world uh in a different if in a
different world it would have been cool for me to be back and be the last guest on the show and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But nah.
I get it.
You think that would be cool?
Fuck out of here, man.
Cut it out.
Cut your shit, my nigga.
I don't know who this new Joe is, but cut your shit, my nigga.
That wouldn't have been cool.
Is that a new Joe?
Ten minutes ago, he said Joe gone Joe. Now it's a new Joe. No, but no. So new Joe, old Joe. So new Joe is, but cut your shit, my nigga. That wouldn't have been cool. Is that a new Joe? Ten minutes ago, he said Joe gone Joe.
Now it's a new Joe.
No, but no.
So new Joe, old Joe's?
So new Joe, old Joe's?
You're going to tip your hat like Derek Jeter's last game?
It's like, get the fuck out of here.
What the fuck you mean that would have been a cool idea to go back?
You don't like that?
No, man.
Get the fuck out of here.
Put on the frock for one last time.
Tip your hat.
You don't think it's dope when a player gets traded in their first game
at your old team?
No, no, no.
You go out
and you're like,
hey, remember me?
It's not the same.
Mad moments together.
It's not the same.
No.
So, Mo,
don't want me to revisit
some of my old successful shows.
I don't have three songs
in a three-man,
in a three-song versus.
What else?
What else?
You said you don't have
three songs in a three-song. I have three songs. I said I don't know the third yet. You said you don't have three songs in the three song verses.
I have three songs.
I said I don't know the third yet.
So you don't have three songs.
That's because I have a plethora.
That's true.
I ain't even thinking about it.
I'm going pump it up.
You don't have your plethora.
I'm going clubbing.
Man.
Hammer dance.
She don't put it down?
And hammer dance.
I might get to five.
Focus.
Hey!
No? No. I would do pump five. Focus. Hey! No?
No.
I would do Pump It Up, Pump It Up Remix with Jay-Z, because you got a whole feature now.
Got a whole feature.
That's hard.
All right.
I'm done with that.
That's all you even think about.
Pump It Up Remix.
Jay-Z, get off of me.
She's a stressful person.
All right.
Got it.
Got it.
You're stressed about your three songs.
Hey!
It's skate time.
Hello?
Why you sound like that?
What's up, King?
Swiss, this is Joe Budden from the Joe Budden Podcast and the gang.
How are you?
I'm homeschooling.
Yeah, it was not really homeschooling
when you live in that lavish mansion with the
Batman garage. Mansion's cool.
You have a real nice house.
But listen, Swiss, that's not what I'm calling about.
I'm calling to give you IP.
You ready?
You ready for the verses we need
for New York? Y'all just did it for Atlanta.
Y'all had Jeezy, Gucci.
It was an Atlanta moment.
Atlanta was rocking for the week.
You're a New Yorker.
I think New York needs this.
Know what I think we need?
I got a mean, mean, mean.
I got a couple of mean New York ones, but I'm going to listen.
Oh, that's what the niggas say when you're about to steal your shit.
All right, Swiss, I'm going to give it to you.
How do you feel about Mason Betha in a versus?
Cameron.
That's what I said, Swiss.
All right.
That's what I said.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
But guess what?
But guess what?
You working on something?
I'll let y'all work on that.
How about that?
No, no, no, no.
That's going to be tough.
That's going to be tough.
They fuck with you. I'm going to be tough. That's going to be tough. They fuck with you.
I'm going to need some assistance on that one.
I'm going to need some Swiss and Timbo help getting that together.
I'll work on Mace.
You get Cam.
I know we was working on a dip set one.
We was working on a dip set one.
Even though I think.
Dip set versus who?
Yeah.
Well, he's not going to announce it here. I can't get into that. You know what I own even though I think dip set verse who? yeah well he's not gonna announce it here
I can't get into that
but you know what I'm saying
I tried
we've been
we've been working
you know what I'm saying
but I liked
oh dip set verse G
I see what you're doing
I see what you're doing
I didn't want to say it
dip set verse G
I see what you're doing
I ain't saying
I ain't doing nothing
that needs to be more than
20 records if that's the case
yeah
Swiss while I got you here
what do you think of
cause the verses shit is amazing
but what do you think of y'all
doing an opener
verses with like
niggas with one or two songs
or three songs
or producers like you and Tim started
like how do y'all expand this
beyond this amazing shit
that y'all already built
not business wise I'm just talking about creatively yeah yeah we've been working on those
on those different things so you know the only problem is it's been a lot um just with the
artists that that's the main event you know i'm saying i think we now got the machine oiled to
where that we can start that you know i'm saying then the amount of time that we got the machine oiled to where that we can start that you know what i'm saying then the amount
of time that we got the audience you gotta remember we got we got the audience for damn near
three hours you know what i'm saying so like that that that curation in the beginning gotta be
curated so tight because we're taking up so much time in your day, you know?
Yeah, but y'all are late every versus now.
The first hour, a lot of times.
The first 40 minutes is y'all setting up.
Y'all can have two niggas go out there and do a song off.
And whenever that happens, put me down for Pump It Up.
Damn, I just gave away the suspense.
Put me down.
You don't know what I'll play.
You don't know which joint I'm going to.
I think joint verse depends on his song selection.
It's really going to see where Joe wins and loses.
Shut up, Rory.
All right, so Swizz can't tell us too much,
but that is on his mind.
New York. I like it. I like it. I like it. all right so swiss can't tell us too much but that is on his mind new york i like your show
like it i like it i got because you know um there's so much shit we ain't even do yet that
that we can't wait you know what i'm saying like as far as
everything with it you know i mean but still keeping it in the in the in the way the way it
feels high feels we could have definitely I'm thinking about it, Swiss,
and I don't mean to do this to you,
now that I'm going back in my versus catalog,
your New York card might be revoked, man.
Swiss?
Oh, yeah.
Because he gave Atlanta.
Atlanta has had nine out of ten of the versus moments.
This last one was the biggest moment ever in Atlanta.
He went to the West Coast, gave them their moment with Snoop and DMX in the studio.
They brought it around.
When are you going to bring your ass to quad?
And I gave y'all Jaden Fab, right?
So I did all that, too.
Fam, if that's what you think New York is rocking with, sorry.
I enjoyed it.
No, that's one of the things New York is rocking with.
But you got to remember, we don't stick together like how we act.
You understand? That's one of the things we got rocking with. But you got to remember, we don't stick together like how we act. You understand?
That's a fact.
Like, niggas be real divas in our city, which is why those other cities
was able to come and do what they did.
That's a fact.
You know, when we had the advantage for many years, they stick together.
Like, you know, everybody will talk a good one.
When we get on that phone, ah, it's not for me.
You know I'm going to really go bad.
I don't want to hear all that shit
you know what i'm saying yeah like you're gonna go bad like the shootout should have been happened
we talking about music we talking about creativity and that's why the gucci and
jay-z one was so important because it showed how people can have serious
Beats and put their problems aside and put their family and the creativity and their music
First and educate, you know these youths out here who you know, we like some of the music
We don't like some of the music but let's contribute to that instead of just talking about it
But a lot of our friends from new york they make it hard
bro so i gotta we gotta maneuver you know i mean so um but we got a couple of great ones that's
planned but my new york car can't be revoked because all all new york artists know i reach out
you know what i'm saying but um we need one besides the fab and kiss one man that's that's
all yeah we definitely were you at the GZ Gucci one?
Nope.
Smart man.
Smart, smart man.
Watch that one from home, from my mansion.
Yes.
Now, I had planned a family vacation that I had to leave on that night that we planned for a year.
And grandparents not seeing the grandkids and all the stuff here.
So, you know know i couldn't
i had to i had to keep those plans that night but were you able to watch it while the vacation yeah
yeah i watched i watched it and then took off you know what i'm saying did you feel the tension
through the screen like i did i was scared in my room i felt the tension from a to z oh yeah
because y'all had to deal with it yeah from a from A to Z, you know what I'm saying? But
you know, I know that both of those
brothers are in a different space in their life
and I knew that this
verse was going to actually even help bladder
to the youth that's in the street
thinking that, you know, you got to
be some type of way
except for stand up, right? And I think that
those two brothers would stand up
and, but the thing that I like is that,
you know, even Gucci and Gia,
like we're going to keep it all the way real.
Like it's not no fake love and fake this.
We will get that smoke.
And as long as we, you know,
end on a positive note, we won.
You know what I'm saying?
And that wasn't, and that wasn't,
they had, man that was
thick skin I can't even say I still got work to do in my life oh for seeing that I got work to do
totally understandable same same me too I got work to do all right I don't have anything more
for Swiss I appreciate you just letting us pick your brain this way we need fat Joe in the verses that's all I know yep yeah we you know you know I did his show a lot
of times I did his show a lot of times yeah I did his show a lot of times you know but um I think
Joe I think Joe's in a good space I think Joe's in a good space believe it at that the key in a
good space okay it went from hell fucking hell so I think he's in a good space. Okay, it went from hell fucking no
So I think he's in a good space. Okay. Yeah, cuz bad Joe is probably now with the funnies
And and people be needing time they get they awesome ready see that's what people don't know like when people say no
It'd be temporary. You know saying they just be wanting to going simply be DJ and master a chessboard
It's a big stage to jump on you can't just jump on here freestyle. You're gonna get hurt
You know, we've seen that a couple of times with people think they get a jump on stage
Start with a record ain't nobody but your black heard that ink on Danny not for tonight
I won't I won't ask you to pick a winner in
Hypothetical mace verse cam, but what i will ask you is to give
me a hypothetical score of that battle i think cam got mace in this one um my pops my pops
my pops managed mace um love cam i think my pop managed cam at one time or two. I'm not mistaken
But that was all family. You know what i'm saying? Um, the only reason is that may stop like real short
You know what i'm saying may stop like
Like if he he got a lot of mixtape freestyles if he throwing those and he got a lot of features too
Got a lot of features
I don't know. I have to I have to really I have to really
Sit that out because you gotta remember Cam got a solo life
and he got a dip set life.
He could play all that and he could play his features too.
Oh, I forgot.
You got to pick against me because you got to ride with the locks.
I got to ride with the what?
Yeah, you're a rough rider.
Nah, those are both Harlem ladies.
That's Harlem.
All right, I just want to see it.
I just want to see it.
Let's get it done.
Swiss, Timbo, let's get it done.
We need this.
New Year's Eve, let's go.
Let's see if the people want it, though.
Let's see if the people want it.
Because the people be like, man, we ain't asking for this.
So now we check with the people.
The people, they a little picky with their little wish list you know all right i'll get a little mock flyer made up and post it and gain some traction bring you back
bring you back to the research and data yeah but the only thing is like sometimes that should be
scaring the artists away too i can't even lie, I think I fucked up like a good versus by playing around with it like that.
A super good one, man.
Yeah, well, listen, if you're talking about what I think you're talking about, why you
niggas post that Jodeci picture?
Oh, Tim did that.
That's Tim.
Tim got the relationship with Tim.
You know, that's his thing.
But I don't think that's not what I'm talking about, though.
Oh, what you're talking about?
Give us an exclusive so we can go viral.
It's the one that I brought up on this podcast.
Well, tell us.
Let's hear it.
Let's hear it.
No, y'all know which one.
You know what I'm saying?
It would have been a great one, but I don't think we getting that any,
any time soon.
But, you know, the running is loaded.
Basis is loaded.
And we going to blow your mind.
Trust me.
All right. Well, I'm ready for it i appreciate the call good luck with everything tell the family i said hello and we'll be watching man
yeah all right man bless up zone zone yes sir all right
for a minute it sounded like swiss is preparing for was preparing for Dipset versus G-Unit.
Which would make sense.
Let's hypothesize.
In the event that that happened, who do you have winning?
Before we even get into that.
Because I don't want to stay on that.
G-Unit worldwide was much different.
Dipset in New York, though.
That's a pretty hot take there, Rory.
No, I'm just saying the difference of Dipset versus G-Unit. I don high take there Rory No I'm just saying like the difference of
Dipset vs. G-Unit
I don't know how
It's pretty bold
Like Swizz was saying
You're on a big stage
Yeah the G-Unit records may be bigger worldwide
But those Dipset records hit different
Dipset
I think Dipset is bigger than just New York too
But G-Unit just 50-50 man
What do you do with 50?
That's a tough
I would like to see if they did that group thing.
Lock him in the closet to miss the verses.
He's got too many hit hits.
He could play What Up Gangsta 20 times for me.
Yeah.
Well, that verse, Dipset Anthem is...
Oh.
That's a show off, showdown.
Yeah, but if you're saying G-Unit,
are you talking records that they have together
or solo catalog?
Maybe there would have to be a, there has to be more than one artist on it.
That's what I think.
They could do that interesting where it's more than 20 records.
You do five group versus group joints.
Then you do three Jewels versus Banks joints.
Then you do 10 Cam versus 50 joints.
I think there could be a really unique way to do verses.
That changes everything if you're doing that. So just so I'm clear. I think there could be a really unique way to do versus. That changes everything if you're doing that.
So just so I'm clear, y'all have Dipset Anthem beating,
niggas done started something from Mace,
and y'all have Dipset Anthem beating.
What Up Gangsta?
I didn't say that.
What Up Gangsta?
I never said that.
I don't know where you got that from.
I think that's a good matchup.
I'm taking What Up Gangsta, but I think that's a great matchup and I would never be mad.
And my last,
and my last dip set Anthem question,
cause I might still take dips at Anthem in there,
but I don't know.
But my last one to y'all that I'm unsure about is dip set.
Anthem verse.
We going to make it in the event that he was talking about the locks and not
G unit locks,
dip set.
No,
give me dipipset Anthem
versus We Gon' Make It.
I think...
See, we thinking...
No, I don't know.
I think more people just know
Dipset Anthem.
We Gon' Make It gets that point.
I don't know.
For you?
Yeah, I don't know.
But for most of the people
that's going to be watching that,
streaming that?
We Gon' Make It gets that point
for most of the people
streaming that thing. They use the scale that's going to be watching that, streaming that. We're going to make it get to that point for most of the people streaming that thing.
They use the scale that they weighed the whales with.
Yes, I know, Rory.
I don't know, man.
Dipset Anthem is, people outside of New York think, you know that people, this is how big Dipset is.
People outside of New York think that every New York guy dresses like niggas in Dipset.
True.
Like,
that's just a fact.
Like,
women across the country
think that every New York male
looks like a member of Dipset.
And talks like.
Yeah.
Like,
that's just the influence
that in how big of an impact.
That's because men
across the country
dress like different
eras of Dipset.
Sure.
So that just goes to show
how big they are
culturally.
I'm never going to doubt
their influence
I think
Diff said is
the reason for
everything
modern music
now
but that's another take
that I need to flush out
yeah I think
you gotta flush
like three more times
nah
you don't like it
you don't like it
if you go
if you go through the lineage
that's a bold statement
if you go
if you go through the lineage
if you have Wayne
where he is
and the influence Wayne has had on modern music,
yeah.
Where has Wayne openly said he got his shit from?
Where has Cortez said Wayne got all his shit from?
Dipset.
And I could flush this out on exactly outside.
Sonically, musically,
the sound that they brought
has been used by everyone.
That shit, listen to Heat Makers when they say, yeah, we were making like New York down south drums.
It was the first time we kind of put the trap shit against the soulful sample shit.
I was outside when Dipset was doing it.
I was too.
Like, I'm not, I'm not.
It's, their impact is insane.
I will not trigger you by saying that you weren't outside
I've read the YouTube comments
their impact is phenomenal
they think I purposely
try to trigger you
to get you to hit me
on certain topics
when ageism is involved
I was born in 1990 Joe
I was outside
when Dipset was active
you're still
you had to be home
at a certain time
I think we have to tell niggas
what
you had to be home at a certain time we had to have to tell niggas what you had to be home
at a certain time
we had to tell people
what I was outside
I just told you guys
I robbed a liquor store
when I was 14
you were a bad little
Irish boy
yeah
allegedly Vlad
when you say
I was outside
it means I was outside
without restrictions
yeah
it means I was
I was experienced
not to say you could have just been egging your parents Joe my own mother who was a saint I was outside without restrictions. It means I was experienced.
Not to say,
you could have just been egging your parents.
Joe, my own mother
who is a saint
will tell you
she regrets
that I had no restrictions.
I know you're a little bad white boy.
I never had to be home at a time.
Bad white Kappa boy.
Yo, Rory,
what year was you born?
1990.
90.
So, dipset.
2003, 2004. Rory's 14. He's born? 1990. 90. So, Dipset. 2003, 2004.
Rory's 14.
He's hanging with people he shouldn't hang with yet.
Was Rory breathing and eating as a human being on Earth yet? Was he running around smoking weed?
Yes.
Was he paying his own rent?
No.
Was he like at these events?
Was he fucking bitches getting money, robbing the gas stations?
I was fucking.
But was he at these parties?
That changes everything. No. How are you not outside and you fucking? Yeah, he at the party? That changes everything.
No.
How are you not outside
and you fucking?
Yeah, that's the thing.
Because you can fucking side.
Yeah, you can fucking side.
Yeah, you can fucking side.
I couldn't fucking side
at my mom's house.
I had to fucking park.
I'm doing a lot of fucking now inside.
Well, no, I'm not.
I'm lying.
Look how niggas lie on the podcast.
Wait, so what do you think
about Dipset versus Lox?
That's the one. I'm taking Dipset. That's the one we need for New about Dipset versus Lox? That's the one.
I'm taking Dipset.
That's the one we need for New York.
I'm taking Lox.
Sorry, listeners all over the world.
Here's where I'm nervous.
Lox is a tough out.
How prepared Kiss came to that battle?
Yeah.
And then you add in Styles and Sheik.
Kiss alone has something for everything.
He's got R&B records.
He's got hard street records.
He's got...
So does Dipset.
I know.
You know what?
Matter of fact, hot take, because it's my age.
I'm taking Dipset.
Killer.
Jones.
Freaky.
I'm taking Dipset.
Santana, come on.
I'm taking Dipset.
Shake.
Shake.
Shake.
Hey.
I'm taking Lox.
Not saying that that's a point in anything, but when that comes on, I'm dancing around.
I don't expect the rest of the country to know
the impact that this had
when Goldfinger was DJing,
but yeah.
Oh.
That would be great. Oh my God.
I just want to see that.
Oh, we would bag so many
New York bitches when this battle is on.
We would be in the comments
chewing.
I think Kinsaloni would be in the comments. You win. So you have the locks as the ultimate New York group.
In the verses.
Probably so, yes.
In the verses.
Probably so.
Diff set is tough.
Diff set is tough.
Then that's all I'll say. Letipset is tough. Dipset is tough. Does the locks be Wu-Tang?
Let me pull you back.
Yeah.
If we didn't just speak to Jimmy last week,
I would call him and ask him what he thought about some of these.
I'm a Wu-Tang.
What he thinks about Dipset versus the locks?
Yeah.
Come on, man.
You know what Jim is going to say.
He's going to ride for his team, of course,
but he'll also give us at least an honest reason as to why he feels that way.
I don't think that he'll just say, oh, Dipset, you know about it.
Yeah, I don't think he would do that.
I think it just comes down to impact.
Jim would be more honest than Cam would, I think.
I think Dipset just has more of an impact.
Than who?
The locks?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I think more people know Dipset than the locks.
Why you did that, man? Yup. What's goody? Absolutely I think more people know Dipset than the locks Yup
What's goody?
It's Rory from the Joe Budden Podcast
Back to back episodes
Live on the air Joe
We just got off the phone with Swiss
And we're just making up versus shit
Just making up shit
Swiss didn't say nothing
But Dipset
Versus G-Unit came up
And Dipset Vers verse the locks came up
and i need your opinion um well historically people would love to see
dip set verse g unit right yeah but i doubt that'll happen Of course
No camaraderie there
And we'll be going listening to 20-50 set records pretty much
But let me stop taking jabs
A lot of camaraderie
A lot of energy to bounce off each other
Cam and Jadakiss and Styles P literally started the same year to get into this game off of freestyles and things like that.
We represent the uptown part of New York City.
We represent the culture from New York City.
We've been pillars in this industry both for the past 20 some years, along with the whole Rough Rider enterprise.
So, you know what I mean?
I think that will be more suitable and more suitable for us also.
But if there were a chance for the G-Unit thing to happen,
I wouldn't exactly count it out.
I just probably would say it would be a bit more aggressive
than even the Jeezy and Gua versions.
We don't want any of that.
Hypothetically speaking, just music, Jim.
That's all.
Nah, I want to wrestle and fight and shit like that.
That's not what I was trying to get with this call, Jimmy.
Yeah, Jim, yeah.
We need that.
Yeah, that's the energy I like.
Yeah.
I'm with it.
Listen to this. listen to this.
Listen to this.
In the event that it were the Lox versus Dipset,
we just throwing out songs,
what wins in Dipset Anthem versus We Gon' Make It?
Just that one round.
A lot of us in here have Dipset Anthem
as one of the greatest New York
records ever made. I would say
this, that
our strategy would be
five Jewels records,
five Killer records, five Jim
Jones records, five Diplomat records.
That's like 20 platinum records.
That's tough.
Does that make sense for us?
I don't think that's a bad strategy. That's a. Does that make sense for us? Hmm. Oh, yeah.
I don't think that's a bad strategy.
A group of individuals that can break down into that type of shit doesn't even matter.
You can go Migos, but Migos can't break down into solos.
They haven't accomplished that yet.
And when they do, they're going to be hella tough to reckon with.
But we got some shit that we've done that a lot of people haven't done. And yes, Lox are solo artists. And they do have some hella tough to reckon with but we got some that we've done that a lot of people haven't done that yes locks are solo artists and they do have some hellified hits i could sit down and ring off
a bunch of them but we have bona fide platinum hits it's a little different you know that the
locks are one of the greatest groups ever but one of their greatest feats has been they have had a
hard time on the the bad boy constituents of going
platinum through all those years. That was their biggest fight and the biggest fight
had turned them platinum with the people because they deserved it. Us, we've been kind of blessed
throughout our career with having angels around us and Cam has been a platinum artist since
he's touched the game since 1997. And from then on, he's bring us into the game and even jim jones has ended up with platinum records
which i'm dropped i'm almost flabbergasted that i that i'm in the game still and still
have these records that we have like we got some bonafide michael jackson hits is what i like to
call them so you know it'll be a battle to the death to the death that's a great battle yeah
either way i would love to just see dip set in the verses no matter the opponent
I think that needs to happen. We need it for New York. That's that's just the bottom line. We need so when you get a call
obliged
With it whatever whoever you're with Alana
We're not backing down from any any action at all you dig above all it's not that serious
So whoever they want to put up in a room with us
We definitely ready to put our best foot forward and our artistry forward so give a fuck who it might be
you heard put them in the box let's see who can box you heard at the end of the day it's about
your lineup it ain't about your catalog it ain't about how much money you got it's about the vibe
and the feeling you're gonna be able to give those people that's watching and if your lineup ain't right you might just lose and you could be one of the biggest platinum artists there is
You know what I'm trying to say?
Yeah, no, it's true
Jim real quick before I let you go
What are the rappers gonna do now that Jake Paul is on the loose man?
We're gonna jump that nigga
I know J-Paul.
I ain't gon' box him.
He better get that shit in the ring
because these niggas
gon' scrape him up.
You heard?
You heard?
What the fuck you talking about?
He better cut his whole pants.
Fuck Jake ass up.
Jump the shit out of his
fucking mouth.
Wait for his arm
to fall tight.
You was just joking. I'm a grown-ass rapper. What the fuck you talking about? What the fuck you talking about? I don't play basketball.
I'm not jumping in some shit that I have no business jumping in.
But I tell you one thing, he better not jump in no shit he got no business jumping in.
Don't be fooled by these rappers because that boxing ain't going to count when you get in this box.
You heard, nigga?
All right, Jim. Thank you. new album coming in a few weeks i like i like i like him though i like him
i like i like him i can't take none away from him i think that nate should have did a little bit
more research like you know i didn't even know what he was about until after the fight and
niggas were like bro the nigga been by he's a boxer he boxes like he's not no youtube sensation
like he's 52 faking niggas out like he really boxes that nigga been by. He's a boxer. He boxes. He's not no YouTube sensation. He's 52 faking niggas out.
He really boxes. He might be
on steroids. The nigga know how to
combo. His brother's a fucking boxer
that beat niggas up. I beat both the niggas up.
He's not a fucking nigger out.
And for that alone, he need
to get jumped.
That's beautiful.
For that alone.
He definitely did some billion shit
Like no I don't know how to play pool
Take all your money
Shout out to Jake man
Shout out to Nate
You know I'm smoking on some Nate right now
You heard?
Smoking on some Nate
Yo
Jim thank you
We love you man
New album in a couple weeks
You already know what it is man
Alright man
Appreciate you
Ways
Yeah we need a dip set.
Jeremy might just need to come up and kick it.
I think it's that fuck you talk about.
We're not talking about anything.
Yes.
Yes.
YouTube,
Jim Jones balling. You can't hear it, but it's a vibe. YouTube, Jim Jones, ballin'.
You can't hear it, but it's a vibe.
Hey.
Hey.
Rory wasn't outside when we was ballin'.
He was outside for ballin'.
Not really.
Not really.
He was outside for ballin'.
But was he ballin'?
I wasn't.
No.
I'm not ballin' now.
Then we weren't outside, really.
Well, that's a good point.
Come on, man.
You been in the tunnel?
He's a Giants fan.
Got it, buddy.
All right.
What else is going on?
What else is going on?
What else is...
I wasn't in the tunnel in 98.
What else?
I was eight.
You ain't sneaking?
But you were in Meadowlands.
Oh, my God.
I was definitely at the Meadowlands in 1998 for sure, though.
Can't believe you didn't sneak in there.
An eight-year-old just sneaking into the tunnel.
Hey, get your fake ID game up.
I had a fake ID.
You still got it?
No, it was stolen.
Mine was confiscated.
Yeah.
It was a mystery.
That was life-breaking.
I was after 21, though.
They took mine from speed. They came knocking on my door about this shit. I'm like, I was after 21 though I was like They came knocking on my door
About this shit
I'm like fam
I'm 22 years old
They came knocking on your door
For a fake ID
It fell out of my pocket
You know at the gas station
Or something like that
Oh okay
No my
My work
They followed you from the club
And yo fam
You got in last night
With a fake ID
Nah shit fell out
And they came to the crib
Cause my dumb ass
Had my real address
On the fake ID
Alright man
Did you have your real name too?
No
Oh my.
Dude, they just gave me
a name and an address
which I had to memorize.
Like, oh fuck,
let me try to remember this.
I had the fake ID.
Miss Michigan ID.
I don't know what it was
about the state of Michigan
but all my friends
just had Michigan.
Like, that was the ID
that was easy to print
for some reason.
It was easy to duplicate that one.
Because they used to have
the hard plastic joints
that looked like a regular.
Yeah, nah.
Michigan didn't give a fuck.
Yeah. Yo, when you were turning 21 and you could use your real idea at the club oh my god was so hype at ohm i want to go everywhere yeah just a type of scream man to pull out his ysl wallet
to pay for nothing at the podcast listen when when ohm was lit right next to that big ass parking
lot that all the beefs would happen in and then you cross it and then be at Cheetah's and some other shit up the street.
Come on, man.
I'll tell you about it one day.
One day I'm going to tell you about it.
Honestly.
You were scared to be around Brooklyn niggas back then.
Nigga, what are you talking about?
I didn't see you.
He's sitting Rockefeller.
I was scared to be around Brooklyn niggas.
What are you talking about, niggas?
Because I keep thinking Mo is a Bronx Harlem nigga.
That's where I'm from.
But you're not.
You're really a Brooklyn nigga, too.
I just know niggas everywhere, man.
I was really at Marcy Days before.
You ain't never been to Marcy Day.
I never went to Marcy Day.
See, I know.
I never went to Marcy Day.
See, I know.
No, I didn't.
I know.
Shit, it was a struggle getting me to Eastern Parkway for the parade sometimes.
Oh, man, classic.
I did Juve on Eastern Parkway
the night before.
You was trying to die.
Remember when we was
on Eastern Parkway
having a blast?
I had the fucking
flag bandana on.
What flag you were at?
And every three blocks
we went,
we heard,
yo, you know them niggas
was just shooting two blocks away. Yo, you know them niggas was just shooting
two blocks away.
Yo,
you know they just killed
this nigga off the block.
Look at the deal,
like,
why are we still
just walking here?
Yeah.
Like,
we should leave.
And leaving was difficult.
The night before
was crazy shit.
He wasn't driving.
Because the train
off Eastern Parkway
in Crown Heights is safe.
I mean,
for the parade,
he was on the drive.
That might have scared me out of ever taking the train anywhere back then.
Actually, now that I think about my time in Brooklyn, I'm traumatized from a few things
that happened in Brooklyn.
I remember I just went to Brooklyn for an innocent night of bowling.
Boy, it must have been gang night.
First of all, it was was a big ass bowling alley
And it was all pitch black
With all these thugs in there
Yeah right across the street
From a big gas station
That niggas died at too
And it was like
Fam
Why do they think
That we should be bowling
In the dark in here
Three niggas already died
Yeah I left
Yeah I don't do Brooklyn anymore
But I hear it's nice now
Yeah Brooklyn's nice
Brooklyn's beautiful
I mean Brooklyn's still Brooklyn
Like It's certain pockets Don't get it twisted Brooklyn's nice. Brooklyn's beautiful. I mean, Brooklyn's still Brooklyn.
It's certain pockets. Don't get it twisted.
Brooklyn's been gentrified. We have that conversation.
We also have to have that conversation. There's parts that's not.
Yeah, that's a fact. That's a fact.
Yeah, you should tread lightly.
Like, shout out to homeboy in the Bronx that when I was at the skate key,
had a problem with me while I was skating.
You looking for him?
With keys in your pocket.
That's when he was vulnerable.
We had the skates on.
That's when he going to try you.
Never cop the faster, please.
And right when he was telling me why he was angry with me,
Bowded Bowded came on.
Oh, man.
And the whole skate, he said,
It's like, man, if I don't get these skates off,
he is about to road blade me across this
key.
Glad that place shut down.
Get rid of those thugs.
Nah, I miss skate key, though.
What was the spot in Jersey?
Skate 22?
Skate 22.
Yeah.
I was way too young for skate key.
Skate 22. Skate key was the shit.
Skate key. I stopped doing those.
Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
My bad, bro.
I stopped taking those skating trips when I learned that I wasn't fly enough to get pussy
on the bus, bag of chick on the bus trip there.
You was hype because all the bad bitches was getting on the bus, but you was corny, so
they was talking to the cool niggas.
You just got to skate by yourself.
Skate with the whole music. You was alone duringiggas. Then you just got to skate by yourself. Skate with the whole team.
You was alone during couple of skate?
Got to look for an opening.
Are you cold?
Want my jacket?
Joe's trying to perfect his backwards skate.
You want my hoodie?
I see goosebumps on you.
No wonder they wasn't talking to you.
You ever rubbed your...
Oh my God, you are freezing.
Look at Erickson.
Yo, nobody ever feels you, Erickson.
All right, come on.
What else are we doing?
Oh, I really get the pussy when she's saying,
no, I don't need anything.
I insist.
When you insist?
It doesn't work.
No.
You're thirsty when you insist.
For real?
I don't know.
Absolutely.
Don't yawn while we record.
What he said?
What he told Savon?
Savon, let that be the last time that you yawn while we record.
Honestly.
Scream, man.
The day is coming.
Save the address
in your GPS
yo nah
matter of fact
quickly
Savon
when I walked in
was like
yo where you live in Jersey
I was like
Jersey City
he's like
oh yeah I was just looking
at a couple spots over there
I was like
oh my bad
and then he was like
yeah but I'm about to settle
on this Upper East Side spot
so I don't even know
if I want to go to
broke ass Jersey City Upper East something spot. So I don't even know if I want to go to broke-ass Jersey City.
Upper East.
Something like Upper East.
We don't care.
We've never been to your house now.
We're not coming to the next one.
We're not helping you move.
What's worst on the list of being asked some shit by friends?
I know how Rory feels about when your friends call you and ask you to help move.
That's the number one on my list.
So that could be number one.
But you calling me
to invite me to your wedding
ain't far behind it.
Especially if it's
a destination wedding.
Yeah, don't try to sneak
Puerto Rico on us.
Nah, we're not doing that.
Alright, so listen.
You guys,
I came up with this segment
called...
You had to write it down?
I came up...
No, but I do have a printout here. I came up with this segment... I didn had to write it down? I came up. No, but I do have a printout here.
I came up with this segment.
Huh?
What happened?
Can we put a beep?
Over what?
My life?
We do need to beep his life.
Yeah.
We're going to beep his life.
I came up with this segment for you guys, because you guys are so entertaining, called
Do You Believe the Commenters?
Okay.
Now, I don't know how many
of the YouTube comments you guys actually
read. I'm a Reddit guy now.
I dig in the Reddit comments. Reddit.
Instagram comments
for you. Yeah, I'm the hipster.
I'm the hipster. I don't know if Reddit still makes
I'm a hipster. Shout out to our subreddit out there.
No, actually, the Reddit threads are very funny. I do enjoy them. I'm the hipster I don't know if Reddit still makes him a hipster shout out to our subreddit out there no actually
the Reddit threads
are very funny
I do enjoy them
so I'm just gonna read
a few of these
from our last episode
and you were the star
Maul
because of my hair
I like what they did to you
I think you're a star
for many reasons
it was only the
bald dudes with bad
hairlines talking shit
that's all
Maul
ASAP Casper says,
Look at that name.
Maul looks like
the history teacher
that tells you
all the history
they didn't put
in the books.
Do you believe that
or no?
That's Maul's bag.
Do you believe that?
That I look like that?
Yeah.
Hey, Casper,
let me tell you
something about me.
All right,
now there's more.
Aviel Amour says
Oh shit
Wait what's my
Joe got his body done
Maul showing off his braids out
The pod fathers are really transforming
Into the bud and baddies
Right before our eyes
I can't wait to tune in next week
To see how Rory is going to glow up
Do we believe that or no?
Rory glow up?
I'm only losing weight
Because of depression Not because of surgery.
This guy says, Maul wants to be in the roots so bad.
Do we believe that?
No.
I do.
I do.
Rockefeller's mad they didn't sign the roots.
I believe that.
Probably.
Yeah, maybe.
That's your fault.
Darius Scott Miller says, you guys need to set it up so when Screen Man pulls something up,
the audience can also see it.
I agree with that.
I believe it.
Hey, Screen Man,
you and your little Long Island buddy
are going to get fired.
Why don't you...
Oh, that's an Erickson thing.
Erickson.
That's an Erickson thing.
It's not a Screen Man thing at all.
It's not a Screen Man thing at all.
I'm sorry.
You're from Long Island now.
Yeah, my bad.
Screen Man,
you got Erickson and Saban's gigs moving forward.
X, whatever this guy's name is, says,
Joe's been hitting, he wants an invite to a friend's giving.
No one's getting it.
Shut up.
We don't care about that.
Rory's been pulling up from half court
the last five episodes.
Shut up.
Someone guard this, man.
Shut up.
Get off his dick.
I don't believe that one
because it's been well over five episodes.
All I want to know is when Wolfgang
Von Maul's
concert though
gonna drop
alright shut up
boo
here's the thing
I like the concept
of this episode
or this segment
that we're doing
I just don't like
this selection
I think this is a
really good idea
and I think if we go
through Twitter
IG
Reddit
YouTube
this will be great
y'all are just trash
bye humbug
I did like
more being in
the roost though
alright is there
anything else
we did
we did the
undoing
we spoke to
Swizz
we spoke to
Jim
we instigated
some shit
the lockdown
they said that
yesterday was
going to be a
lockdown
I still feel
kind of free
freedom is an
illusion
I know
Mo don't get started the fact that no one called Mo like yesterday was going to be a lockdown. I still feel kind of free. It's bullshit. Freedom is an illusion. I know, Mo.
Don't get started.
The fact that no one called Mo
like Cornel West
and somehow flipped it.
They did.
It's just, all right, cool.
They called him everything.
They called me anybody
that has a hair out, fro.
I've seen it all.
It's all good.
I don't have anything else
except to say to you, you more and rory specifically
you seen your mans the other night who's my man you seen your mans tom brady oh tom you seen tom
you seen what time wouldn't even look young patty in his eyes at the end of the game still a good
game though wouldn't even give him the hug dap yeah because you young walked his little locker
room fast to beef with Bruce Arians.
Yeah, that ain't Bill Belichick over there coddling you.
Huh?
Yeah, good.
And that ain't Carson Wentz.
That's young Patty.
Get your rings up before you can talk to me.
You seen what Patty did?
I seen what Brady did his career.
Got five of them things.
Oh, Pat's getting 10.
Oh, he got six, actually.
Pat's getting 10.
Hmm?
You think Pat's getting 10 Super Bowls?
At least seven.
No.
I can see it. I'm talking shit, but I can see it too.
I can see him running the table for a little while.
Football is bound to have someone do a
Jordan run. Or an old
Cowboys run. Or like a Tom Brady run.
Yeah. Like in
football? Yeah.
No, it happened.
No, we want to see it again. Football is bound to
happen to what Tom Brady did? Do it again. No, we want to see it again. Football is bound to happen to what Tom Brady did?
Do it again.
Tom?
Yeah.
You're telling someone that has that many rings to do it again?
Look, even Rory's scared of Patrick Mahomes.
I'm done.
It's true.
I'm done.
He's a different type of person.
Y'all seen what he did.
We got to give his, what's his receiver?
Tyreek Hill?
We got to give him.
The cheetah?
Yo, that dude is different.
Oh, stole Rory's nickname. Yeah, that dude is different. Oh, still Roy's nickname.
Yeah, that dude is different.
I could be him in a minute.
You ****.
What the **** is going on here?
It's a joke.
All right, blur it out, man.
What the **** is going on?
Blur it out.
Yeah, that's what I wanted to say.
Y'all seen Pat Mahomes?
No, he's good at football. Pat, he's what I wanted to say. Y'all seen Pat Mahomes? He's good at football.
He's the real deal.
He's the real deal.
Look at the fucking Giants leading the division like idiots.
That's wild.
That division's terrible.
It's still funny that they're leading it.
With like a 4-7 record or something.
Wait, I just got a really important text from Van.
Not Van Jones.
Van Lathan.
Hey, Van.
Five texts in a row.
I'll read them all to you.
It says, Maul is very important to me.
Every time I'm about to drop a thirsty comment on an IG chick,
I see the money bags.
Every time.
Come on.
And I go, no, Van.
Maul already has his feet up in this living room.
See, I say the exact opposite.
What do you say?
When I see you with the money bag, I'm blowing it up.
Oh, I'm in the right place.
Oh, yeah, I'm in the right place.
Hey, I don't even get busy on the Explore page without seeing a reference from some of my niggas.
Freddie Gibbs.
Hey.
When I see Liked by Freddie and Zoe Dollars. Yeah. Yeah. reference from some of my niggas freddie gibbs hey when i see like by freddie and zoe zoe dollars
yeah yeah i'm in and more it's the three of y'all and it's stupid all right i am finished i am
finished potting for the day there's nothing else that needs my direct attention right this second
we will be back on saturday now we have sleepers yes i don't have a sleeper, but I'll find one. Hey.
Fuck that.
Basley, get out of my Simply Lemonade.
All right, I'm keeping this, New York.
I am.
I got to do it.
That's hot.
Yeah.
Mic check, mic check. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, nigga? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right It's like, fuck, it's King Tajiri Blind theory, nigga
I smoke bogeys, conspiracy theory
It's like, Malcolm, who's just an ex
These bitches swear they in love, but it's just an ex
Niggas act like my cocaine's long and stressed
Like I don't keep two shotguns under my test
I flip, I sleep, see I'm the king of the street
And show motherfuckers how to rhyme on next to his beats
In Miami, a punch to the, won the Grammy This year I to rhyme on next to his beats In Miami, a punch shoulda won the Grammy
This year I bring this shit home to his family
Get happy and keep hating till you receive
Mad votes in your chest plate, hard to breathe
Till you're a hater like Star and Buck
Nigga what? And fuck Tommy boy
Them niggas just suck, I'm the ultimate
Gun on my dick, hoes follow my spit
Wanna drink, everybody on the set
Nigga when that shit is bustin' off
And the ambulance come and rush your arm
And the witness like, we don't know them bars
Me and my niggas goin' hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
Then we resume, hangin' with stars
Then we live in fat houses, a fat ass car
We be drivin' screams, nigga, fuck the law
Me and my niggas goin' hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
I alternated with the greatest, upgraded my speech
We violated, I'm violating, that nigga's capiche
It's unsafe like late night on Orchard Beach
Drinks up river ranches and get slurped at least
Let's have fun with it, in the bridge, my nigga's done with it
Niggas had hit records, but we done did it
Papakala, see them tits, they like to holla
And oh, you know them hoes already know they gotta swallow
Money like Nutty Professor, fat as fuck
Four gold albums, ain't none of it luck
Brad Pitt, Fight Club, shit fucking you up
Since you seem so tense, release the mutts
I'm connected, the police release my cuffs
Call me Fillmore, nah nigga, cause I'ma feel more
Nigga, this my year, you gon' feel normal
Money, we got it, but still trying to feel more
Nigga, when that heat is bustin' off
And the ambulance come and rush you off
And the witness like, we don't know them boys
Me and my niggas go with G, hey, hey, hey, hey
Then we resume, hangin' with stars
Then we live in fat houses and fat ass cars
Then we drive and scream, nigga, fuck the law
Me and my niggas go with G, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
Talk my nigga wrong, we won't be done
Rhyme me, Cooper, Shakes, and Rusty Gun
Rhyme me, nigga, get pop, can't hush me, son Rhyme me, sellinmey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey!
Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Rhymey! Slow down, slow down, slow down. While I'm on this versus kick, the Nori record was playing.
I'm freestyling shit.
I walk away, and I say, hey, how about Nori versus Bleak?
Rory tells me I'm smoking crack again.
I love Bleak, but Nori a little different when it comes to a versus.
Nori's got a lot of different types of hits.
And I love Bleak, and I don't think Bleak is respected.
Bleak could do damage in a versus as well.
Nori, it's a lot.
Nori's got hits in different languages.
He's got like grimy underground shit.
He created a genre.
All right, well, you play that Spanish shit when Is That Your Chick comes on.
See how it goes.
If you think that's what he's playing against, that on. See how it goes. Well, no, you wouldn't.
If you think that's what he's playing against,
that's what you're playing with.
You wouldn't do that.
Nor he could also play one of the greatest posse cuts
of all time.
Yeah, true.
That part.
And Superdog.
And Money Money.
Yeah.
And nothing.
And Body and the Troll.
T-O-N-Y.
Oh, yeah.
And that. You said nothing. You said nothing, Erwin. and nothing and body neutral T-O-N-Y oh yeah and nothing
you said nothing
you said nothing
because nothing
is my favorite
I said nothing
yeah
Bleak has joints though
yeah he does
and grimy
I would just like
that matchup
because I know
they fuck with each other
and it'd be great music
yeah
but
I have to go look at
basically
give me this man
he loves paper towels
I have to go look at
what Bleak's 20 would look like bleak would have a good 20
Yeah, for sure bleak would we would have a really good 20
Who'd be a good matter of fact? I don't think a lot of people want to see bleak. Who's a good matchup for noria
That's a good question, I don't know
I mean the answer would have been Prodigy rest in peace yeah
Prodigy and Noid
would be really good
that was
yeah
it would be nice
to see Mobb Deep
I mean
Havoc
I'm cool with Hav doing it
yeah
I think that would be dope
yeah
yeah
have Noid come
yeah
bring the whole
41st side
yeah
make it awkward
I'll be watching from home
no one will pause it out. I'll be watching from home.
No one will pause it at home?
No, I just pick my spots.
I pick the culture shit to show up to.
You know, I like the gentrified side of Long Island City.
That's all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying.
That's all.
All right, I'm going to play a song that has nothing to do With what we're talking about Sound wise This is Jay Warner
Belong to you
I'm gonna put
Everyone to sleep
Let's go Jay Warner
It's gonna be weird to play
In a room full of men
But the puppy's cute
So it's cool
This shit is fire though Tell me your fears
I'll be your friendly shadow
Take my advice It won't be hard to swallow Tell me your thoughts We've always got tomorrow
Oh
Moving away, you know you got my soul I belong to you Don't run away, no I won't let go
I belong to you
No matter how far
You wanna go off alone
This ain't a thought
This is a full proposal Oh, proposal
Hard to forgive
Hard to forgive but still I Don't mind the way you know you got my soul I belong to you
Don't mind the way you know I won't let go
I belong to you
You
You You You, you, you, you, you
You, you, you, you, you That's Jay Warner, Belong To You.
Play that with a woman not in a room full of 17 men like I just did.
Maybe get yourself a puppy.
All right.
Play a new joint from Jay Mills.
We were just talking about him.
This is High Rollers featuring Anthony King.
Mills, you my guy, but that was the worst take I ever heard.
It's like a motherfucking space shoot, man.
You got the whole.
You feel the VDS, man?
Yeah, I feel the VDS on this motherfucker.
So, man, I'm taking a little bit, man.
Show you what it feel like.
Just stop saying hold that Ghost Riders.
Only with the bra, keep the pure, I'm smokin'
And I'm rollin' high
We keep it high
Rollin' with your lotto, need it loud and poppin'
Loud and poppin', baby
Rollin' high
We keep it high Loud Poet, baby Music
Smokin' on that glue, slightly chopped
With that moon rock, silk Prada
Wildin' in Nevada like I'm Tupac
Shorty from that BBL era
She ain't do the shots, ass stupid
She hop in the drop and make the coupe hop
Gotta open like a loose lock
Cause I'm too hot, fake hate foreign spots
Fuck it, cock, Gucci tube socks
We am from the hustlers, made bank accounts out they shoe box
We am from the hustlers, cook crack in they mama soup pots
We am from the hustlers, wrote BBS's and stayed the freshest
I learned the more work you need more dresses
I learned early jury clashing just show you lack of effort
And that's exactly why my Rolex gotta match my necklace
That's exactly why I can't with your ends
With Adidas track pants
Respect the way I put it together
You can never find this on the rack
This a 101 custom sweater
And this loud I'm smoking smell better than new Mercedes leather
Only with the raw I keep the pure I'm smoking now
And I'm rollingin' high, we keep it high Rollin' with your lotto, need it loud and potent
And I'm rollin' high, we keep it high
I came in stacked and I keep it packed Got my roll intact, this just stayin' fresh
like bubble wrap Got it across the map, high grade
I did good in class like the Sypha Pass God I pray you just give me drive, I can buy
the gas Studio done got me multitask
Shorty crushin' for me, I ain't gotta ask I'm in the booth, she get it outta bag
Flex it in the paper while she naked Then I I just blaze it While producing these hotter tracks
Blast off, then I turn the beats up
Zone it out, this we got more colors than X on Easter
Buzzing like the Uber East, man delivering pizza
Told my ex ain't no holding on to me like I'm greased up
I'm pieced up, pieced up
Unless a nigga start tripping
See the stars up in this room like glow-in-the-dark stickers
I'm enlarged with the fumes
I cut checks and part swishers
You run as far behind
I'm too ahead
Like car distance
And I
Only with the bra
I keep the pure
I'm smokin'
And I'm rollin' high
We keep it high
Rollin' with your life
That's Hot Rollers
J Mills featuring Anthony King Anthony King Whole album Woodpan of Walls Get that Rolling with your life That was one of the worst takes I've ever heard in my life. But that Woodpanda Walls album is great. It never regained.
Fuck, my guy Mills said, I got the footage.
Yeah, it was a motion picture.
We all saw it.
Yeah.
I'm going to play some of Rock Marcia.
This is Butterfly Flect off Mount Marcy.
Shout out to Rock Marcia.
Shout out to Jazz.
Come on, send me some merch, nigga
Uh, I'm out, Ma, see you later
Shave, shave, uh
I told my young boy trust the process
Even Malcolm X once rocked the process
Used to pumping the projects, now we fund the projects
My goonie spun the blocks, so you should come from my neck
Throw my war pile in the bicep
Threw a hole four on a sprite it was high tech
Cool out before you get sidestepped
Then butterfly effect I'm not a pilot but I will personally fly your head
Yeah, that's just a tip of the iceberg
A hundred can of ice lay on the iceberg
Uh, rock the white fur like I'm Iceberg
See how I'm driving the flying spur
Like it's a piece of shit Chrysler
Cop that ass to advantage, I'm taking advantage
My bitch laced with purple H, blazing with Xanax
Crush it up with the Amex
Nigga woke up wearing pajamas
Holded all the dirty work, she like Kurt Rambis
I like how you hit them motherfuckin' bars Hold it all the dirty work, she like Kurt Rambis Blew the horn to summon the demons
Two shooters pull up in demons, we keep up with the seasons
Ice on my neck, I'm fuckin' freezin'
Do not cut like me, you need seeds, then plus a few key ingredients Shooters pull up in damage, we keep up with the seasons Ice on my neck, I'm fuckin' freezin'
Do not cut like me, you need seeds
Then plus a few key ingredients
Yeah, I'm talkin' spicy
Call me lil' mama, the cayenne
Oh, the irony
Keep the iron in the jeans like they need ironing
Cartier wire frames like me and the Ivy League
Bench wifey, 90 degrees degrees And then my Nikes breezy
I bleed these around these cyclies
Snickers sauce 19
All white beam look like ice cream
Yeah, we finally reached the mountain top
Falcons fly
My third eye's not calcified
I'm outside like the house on fire
Cut off the power source
For coming out your mouth for a fly
I just did that off
the fly, we might slide on you like a water
ride, dog if you ever cross
the line, pop like
a cork on the wine, you see I'm walking
on sunshine, forever
screamin' fuck one time
fuck
butterfly
butterfly effect by
Rock Marciano
Marciano.
Shout out, Rock. Marci now available everywhere.
Shout out to Rock.
Yeah, see, it's not really boom bap.
Just neither boom nor bap.
Rock has had some boom bap, though.
He does.
He does have some, but it's loops.
Yeah.
No, I'm as good.
Shout out to Rock, man.
Yeah, man.
Alrighty, then. Jones, Freaky, Santana. Yeah, man. Alrighty then.
Let's go.
Hey, hey, hey.
Alright, good show, you guys.
Glad we got to the bottom of things.
That's what happened?
That's what you call this episode?
No, but it'll look like that if next week Dipset vs. Deluxe is announced.
That's true.
Oh my God, how did they know?
There's a New York one coming.
They're so ahead of the curve.
I told y'all the New York one was coming.
All right, Rory, you're the fucking hip-hop psychic.
Didn't I get it from you?
I don't know.
What's the New York one coming?
You gotta say it here.
Is it good?
I said it to y'all and y'all was like, yeah.
We can edit that.
Oh, then I didn't care then.
I don't know.
Either way, I'm going home.
I'm out of here.
Hope you had a blast.
Hope you YouTube.
Hey, leave a comment.
Maybe we'll read it.
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Swipe.
Wipe up?
No, wipe up too.
That's great advice.
Some of you niggas don't wipe up.
Stop fucking bitches that wipe down.
Get the baby wipes.
Come on, y'all fucking bitches that wipe down.
Some of y'all still.
It's nasty.
Stop doing that.
Listen, I want to thank y'all for listening.
Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there
until the next time
I bid you adieu
farewell
adios
hasta la vista
Arrivederci
D-Melo
you know the vibes
Joe missed Dykin so much
just want to go up there
and just walk around
that's what you think
I'd be wanting to do
just walk around places especially Dykin who doesn't want to walk around Dykin I don't want to go up there And just walk around Restore the feeling That's what you think I'd be wanting to do Just walk around places
Right
Especially Dyken
Who doesn't want to
Walk around Dyken
I don't want to
Walk around anywhere
Yeah
We out of here
Remember life is a series
Of moments
And moments pass
So let's make this one last
As if it's all we have
And that's that
I forgot whatever else I say on this outro thing.
Something.
Whatever.
Any parting words from you guys?
Worried about a lockdown coming in?
No.
I've been locked up.
Yes.
It's normal shit now.
Wash your hands.
Wear a mask.
Except for Atlanta and Houston.
They're outside.
Yeah.
Come on.
We need Atlanta trips.
Man, man, oh man.
Do we do New Year's out there?
No, man.
Nah, I don't know about that.
Nah, we can get back there January.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know about that.
Yeah, yeah.
Rory, you know, just...
Gotta give him the...
Gotta give Rory the ease from now on.
Yo, Rory.
Yo, Roryory we love you man
yo man
fight the good fight
yo the A is still beat in
oh man
we'll FaceTime you
while we're there
you and Sam
for sure
whatever
alright
we're out of here
hold it down
we'll talk to y'all
on Saturday
y'all enjoy the rest
of the week
stay
oh my god
a clean version
ah
the fuck is that
just start cursing
Santana
come on
boy shit
alright we out of here
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He lied!
Yeah, let's get some flex in there a little bit.
Get flex in there a little bit, man.
We corny.
Lied.
Talking to his stomach.
Never, ever said nothing about him.
Never said nothing about him.
Fucking lied.
You're not cool to me.
Nobody wants to tell the truth. You're not the measuring stick You're not tough to me
You're not the measuring stick of what street niggas listen to
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