The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 408 | "Pomp It Up"
Episode Date: January 20, 2021On this episode: Joe, Rory, Mal & Parks prepare for the upcoming Ashanti/Keyshia Cole Verzuz battle and share their final takes (18:20). The guys honor Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.‘s legacy in light o...f this past MLK Day (29:01), and Joe finds a problem with Funk Flex’s list of the Top 50 Greatest MC’s (53:18). Entrepreneur and technology investor, Anthony Pompliano, joins the show to breakdown Bitcoin to give the guys a better understanding of the cryptocurrency (1:23:30), and the guys address the recently aired Tiger Woods documentary on HBO MAX (2:34:35). Sleeper Picks Joe | Danileigh - “Situations” Rory | Gallant - “Comeback.” Mal | 7xvethegenius - “Break Soul” Parks | Blicka Don - "Ramsey's Place"
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Hold up
Hold up
Cause a party ain't a party
Till it's ran all through
Huh?
Now that's what I was asking
You never shared your blitz sticks
With your man in the club
In Greenhouse
Or in Whip or something
Like you in the club
It's beautiful women around Your man mouth is mad dry His or something? Like you in the club, it's beautiful women around.
Your man mouth is mad dry.
His shit fell out his pocket in the car.
He hit you.
Yo, man, you got that Blistex?
You never did that?
You put his thumb all in your shit?
Nah, he just gonna do it.
You know what I mean?
Better go find that bathroom attendant.
That's what you gotta do.
Guy friends don't try to help their guy friend
in courtship.
Not with Blistex.
Do you also share a toothbrush with your man?
So you want me to go talk to Shorty with the dry lips?
Oh, get it how you can.
Put some ice on there.
You'll be all right.
Yeah.
Get on your LL.
Lick your lips.
What was your swag?
You waited till the lights came on?
You waited till the lights came on when you got your shit off or during the dance?
During the dance.
What was your line?
What'd you whisper in her ear?
I don't even know
I was drunk
When you were grinding
That ass fat
Come here
Back then I was so
I was so uncool
Yo where you live?
Didn't even ask her name
Straight over where you live?
Yo where you live?
Yeah I was pretty funny
Niggas got rejected back then
Oh the nights that I said Long quiet. I got rejected back then.
Oh, the nights that I said,
Long Island,
oh, I'll drop you home.
Oh, I'm going that way. To New Jersey?
Five minutes from speed.
Yeah.
Why am I driving to Long Island?
Horny.
Yeah.
Yeah, so it was.
That horny will do something.
The things we do.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know why
I always went to the
what are you doing after this line
like she hadn't heard that
15 times since she walked in.
I mean, it's a logical question.
Yeah, but I was asking that with no rhythm happening between us.
Oh, okay.
Like it wasn't warranted to ask that.
Yeah, I wasn't there yet.
The conversation didn't go there.
You just jump out the, yo, what you doing after this?
And then they throw you off and be like, yo, you tell me.
Now you start stirring.
I ain't ever going to do something. Every time. Like, yeah, nigga, you don't even know what you want to do. You talking about what you doing after this and then they throw you off and be like yo you tell me now you start stirring i'm cafeteria i ain't ever gonna get something every time like yeah you don't even know what you want
to do you talk about what you're doing after this fuck i mean exactly exactly i think i'm still bad
at that what i mean what rory is saying like meeting a woman and just talking to her no just
shut up mom that's not what we're talking about right no more than saying the double dunk the
double dutch of witnessing the yo what you're doing tonight or what we're talking about right No Rory is saying The double dutch Of when to send
Yo what you doing
Tonight
Or what you doing tomorrow
Like you have to do it
When there's rhythm
Being exchanged
Oh yeah yeah yeah
See I just use it
Like small talk still
Yeah
What are you doing tomorrow
Yeah like
Why does there have to be
Some big romance
For you to say
What you're doing tomorrow
No I don't think
It has to be romance
But you definitely
Rory's talking about If you're just meeting a woman in the club out somewhere you
talking about if you're texting a woman you already have a number so obviously i was talking
to a young lady a few years ago right and we was talking about the quarantine and she was like yo
a few years ago she was like yeah it's crazy okay listen i'm so far ahead of my time i'm about to
start another life look behind you I'm about to pass you twice
I got you
So a few years ago
About the quarantine
She's like yo it's crazy
New York is closed
There's nowhere to eat
And I was like well Jersey is open
You can come eat over here
And she's like yo that's a bet
Nah
Next Thursday it's lit
Next Thursday come
Yo Chris what's going on
You know what
I'm not really dating anyone right now
I'm like
I'm not dating anyone right now
No she's
I'm not feeding anybody
She's just not dating you.
See,
to me,
in man brain,
it's like,
eating is not,
eating don't have to be that.
You can just eat.
No,
eating is not dating.
You can just eat and go.
Yeah,
but some people equate that to a date.
It depends who the person is.
But I feel like New York was handicapped
with trying to take something from the club
because they closed at four.
Like,
I always appreciated being in other places
at 2 a.m.
because it gave more time to actually do something afterward
without being a creep.
Like, hey, come back to my spot.
Because at 4 a.m., I'm saying come back to my spot
or I'm going back to my spot by myself.
I appreciated the clubs that closed at 2 a.m. in other cities
because it allowed you to get there earlier,
and that's my super creep bag.
When I could walk in at 9 p.m.
Walking in the club at 9. The empty vibe when I could walk in at 9 p.m. and it's the empty vibe.
Walking in the club at 9.
The empty vibe.
Walking in the club at 9.
Yo, where I want to stand today?
Yo, what spot I want up in here tonight, huh?
It's all Joe's.
Nobody's here.
Until 11.30 hit and they say,
Mr. Bun, we need that table.
Yeah, and then Joe get mad.
Oh, no, I suddenly make my way,
I step off cooler than that
before me niggas with money come.
Oh, you see them coming in?
See a couple chains.
Go play in a bar.
No, I look at the time.
You know when they get there?
I'm killing from 9 to, well, if the spot closes at 2, 9, maybe midnight.
Yeah.
12, 15, they coming to the, hey, sir, could you kindly?
Yeah.
If they're polite.
If they're not, it's a scene.
And that's the last thing you want.
Yeah.
Is for them to aggressively tell,
yo, why are you still here?
It says reserved.
Yo, Joe, move.
You haven't bought anything yet.
Yeah, you have to go.
Sip your water back here, sir.
Right.
Yeah, that's what's going on.
We podding this year.
Hold up, man.
Let me get my bag.
Realest niggas in the game is back.
Fuck is up.
Happy Wednesday out there.
Happy 2021. Very superstitious.
Writing's on the wall.
Very superstitious.
Never knock it off.
It's on Rory's black playlist.
What can't you do when it this comes on at the bar?
Maybe on my confirmation.
At your what?
Or my first communion.
My mom doesn't like this song. I just hope everybody out there is feeling as good as I am, man.
Happy Wednesday to y'all.
We hit a vibe out.
Save on whatever, so we on. 408. We here to vibe out. Say, Vaughn, what episode we on?
408?
Yeah.
I'm on.
What's up?
You good today?
Great.
Yes, sir.
Parks, how you feeling?
I feel good.
Long hair, don't care.
That's it.
Rory, what's up, man?
Go get dressed.
Cash out.
Nah, go get dressed, man.
Come on. We got a show to do.
Fan, don't make me double notch your shirt.
Hey.
What is this?
See, that's one of Rory's little spill bird jokes he wrote about me.
A little double notch.
See what he doing.
Hey.
Hope everybody out there is feeling good, feeling great.
Hey.
The year still good to y'all?
Absolutely.
The year still right?
The energy still right?
Vibration still high?
Absolutely.
I'm everywhere, baby. I fall for myself. I don't know. You're still right. The energy's still right. Vibration's still high.
Shout out to the ladies out there.
Rest in peace, HUD 6.
I thought about you a lot this weekend.
You know what HUD 6 would be doing right now on these streets?
Honestly, think about it.
Oh, my God., think about it. In Atlanta somewhere. Oh, my God.
I think about that.
I think about what niggas like Hud and what Stack
would be doing, like,
with all this new shit.
Ooh.
Stack would be pulling
that two-tone station wagon
up in Atlanta somewhere.
I love you.
Rest in peace, Jinx.
While we're here,
rest in peace,
anybody that we love.
While we dance,
let's recognize, baby, girl,
you are so entire the way you move next to me.
Rest in peace, my guy Sean from Queens.
We love you.
You told me you were fine.
Rest in peace, Black Bo, while we at it.
Oh, baby, I will fight back since we knew you were the enemy.
Why is this one of the greatest records ever?
It's up there.
You hear that? You hear that?
You hear that?
Right.
When will jam sessions come back in music parks?
Will they?
That's a hard sell.
No, people do them.
They're not the standard like they used to be. Not mainstream.
No, they definitely happen.
I mean, outside of Tiny Desk.
I mean, like in the studio.
Yeah, that's not what I mean.
Live performances,
they still get that off.
That's true.
But recordings,
still a music business.
You want to sell.
Bring back maxi singles
while we at it.
That's where stuff
like that would live.
I used to always fall for that.
Your favorite song
in six different versions.
Well, they're doing
some of that now.
Yeah, they do that.
They're doing some of that now.
Yeah, it's true.
All right, we got a pod to do, man. Doing it, baby.
It's on you.
It's been in the past.
Oh, baby.
Change my mind.
Things have crossed my mind.
Hey, baby.
It's for free.
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What is this?
The JBP boys bite the business.
Welcome to episode 408.
Hundu, welcome to episode 408 of the Joe Budden podcast.
I am your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favorite host, Joe Budden, here with
a few of my nearest and dearest.
My good brother, Maul, is here, huh?
What's up, man?
Feeling good, man. How about
yourself? I'm good, man. I'm good. I like the
earth tones. Thank you, man. Appreciate that.
I see you're continuing your streak as the
best-dressed potter in the game.
Ooh. You came for him today,
though. No, you did.
A challenger has walked in.
It's a timely two three-pointers he makes each game.
Each game, he gets a timely bucket in here.
We'll get to my ensemble.
Want to do a breakdown?
A wardrobe breakdown?
Let's finish with Maul, Mr. Uniformity, okay?
Now.
I'm going to pull your shirt like Jan Strips.
All right, you know what it's about Keep it on me
Come on
Come on let's keep it on me
Bring it in
Probably gonna get the whole
Jan sports strap treatment
From his shirt
But why we can't just joke on me
Pull your shirt to bust out
But why we can't do that
After I joke on more
Okay joke on me
Come on let's go
There we go
What's up come on Pars
Give me one
Alright now why
Cargo's on the knees
Is a little odd
Nah you can put things in there
Okay yeah see I wish cargo pants were cool Yeah Now Come on, Pars. Give me one. All right. Now, why? Cargo's on the knees is a little odd. Nah. You can put things in there.
Okay.
Yeah.
See?
I wish cargo pants were cool.
Yeah.
Now.
I appreciate you trying to bring it back.
Thank you.
This is what's confusing to me.
And in a minute, we will begin.
This is what's confusing to me.
As someone who supports financial literacy such as yourself, as someone who supports creative freedom
and as someone as well-dressed as you are,
why are you so against starting a YouTube page
to try on outfits?
That'd be a good show.
Just try on clothes.
Paul tries on outfits.
Now, I can grant you the opportunity.
No.
Thank you, though.
I appreciate that. I'm not trying on clothes for a show. Thank you, though. I appreciate that.
I'm not trying on clothes
for a show.
Everything ain't content.
But why not?
That's a good show.
Niggas don't want to see me
trying on clothes.
Yes, they do.
They do not.
I guarantee you they'll watch.
I guarantee you they'll watch.
You want to see me
trying on clothes?
Yes.
And you can finally
come out the closet.
You're not going to start nudes.
You're not going to start nudes.
No, no, no, no.
I know.
Maybe like
Like trying on
Going shopping
Like people wanna see that
Yeah like
Should you went out
And confident
How you piecing it together
You know like when dudes
Used to lay their fits on the bed
Yeah
Yeah that's the next step from that
Yeah malls fits on the bed
That's a good show
Malls fits on the bed
Malls lay
Why are you so against that
I'm not against it
That's the first time
That's ever been presented to me
I'm gonna call
Yeah
You can do that
I don't think I don't think it. That was the first time that someone presented it to me. I'm going to call Hop. Yeah, you can do that.
I don't think it's going to stick,
but okay. Yeah, it's probably not going to.
It's probably not going to go over too well.
Nobody want to see
any of your trino clothes.
Something tells me
Hop's going to have some questions.
No, but you got to add
some of your flavor in there, though.
Yeah, but that's not.
Like with your slang.
No, I don't know.
Oh, that's what I'm selling.
The slang. Come on, man. More than a master class. Don't do that. Parks, what's going No, I don't know. Oh, that's what I'm selling. The slang.
Come on, man.
More of a master class.
Don't do that.
Parks, what's going on
with you, man?
I'm chilling, man.
Chilling.
Apartment shopping.
How's it going?
I think we got one.
Damn, we got finally.
Let's get to it.
Yes.
Yes.
The other one.
Real life shit.
No, the one I think
I showed you last week.
Yeah, that one?
That's a go.
Okay.
That's a go.
That's a good spot.
That's a great spot.
That's a really good spot.
The dope one after the dope one. Yeah. Got it. The Scarface spot that disappeared, but I thought a great one? That's a go. Okay, that's a go. That's a good spot. It's a great spot. It's a really good spot. The dope one after the dope one.
Yeah.
Got it.
The Scarface spot that disappeared,
but I thought a great one.
That's okay.
As they tend to do.
Why he didn't know
that that dope-ass place
was going to disappear,
I have no idea.
I'm still confused by that.
I hit them up immediately,
but it was gone.
Yeah, I hit them the next day,
and I think they must have
took it off
because I didn't see it anymore.
I was like, all right.
That's not how that goes.
As soon as I saw it.
Yeah.
Well, good.
So you're moving forward?
I am moving forward.
Damn, double entendre.
Come on, Joe.
Come back.
Come back.
Come back.
Can we stay here?
Come back.
One more with Empire.
We're going to tear it down,
so I wouldn't recommend that.
You unlaced your dickie suit?
Listen, man.
He got the ball.
He going.
Rory's so happy to be back around us. Go ahead. Get your shit off. Go ahead. Get your shit off. All He going Rory's so happy
To be back around us
Go ahead get your shit off
Go ahead get your shit
Alright Rory's here
Hey
Hey
Cash app
Yeah no
You stop jumping the gun
Erickson is here
Shout out to E-Rab
Bazley is here
Corey is here
Saban the Don is here
And Alex the Great is here
How is everybody feeling
As a whole
Good man
Good good good, good.
2021 is still great?
Yeah, man.
I did a seven-day cleanse.
It's finally over.
Okay.
Okay.
Do you feel clean?
What were you cleansing?
My body.
How was that colonic?
His insides.
I didn't get a colonic yet.
I'm getting one soon, though.
Okay.
I'm getting one soon.
Has anybody ever
got a colonic in the room?
I haven't.
No, not yet.
I'm getting one, though.
I'll get a shot.
Judging by my fiber,
I should. Yeah, you might. Yeah. Yeah. I might. I'll give it a shot. Judging by my fiber, I should.
Yeah, you might, yeah.
Might want to get
some water up there.
Killers.
Killers have suggested
one to me.
Killers?
It's always funny
what the killers suggest.
Worry about your health?
Like, nigga,
you killed 10 people.
Hey, hey.
Killed 10 people.
Red meat's bad for you, sir.
Yeah, like, I mean,
all right.
I ain't want more
until you know.
I know what you did a
sum of oh four sir you know that's hilarious it's almost time for i haven't not no clonic for me
and rory just reminded me the other week that it's almost time for that prostate uh that prostate
test for sure you gotta get finger banged in the name of science sometimes you know yeah man but
get a clonic first but for some reason when i was younger like when i turned 31 them explaining that
prostate prostate process to me they made it sound like the worst thing in the world today But for some reason, when I was younger, like when I turned 31, them explaining that prostate
process to me, they made it sound like the worst thing in the world.
Today, when you're 40, it's like, man, do what you got to do back there.
Yeah.
I hear you.
And I mean, some are gentle.
You just have to find your right guy.
Man, go ahead and swear your little finger around me.
Someone with skinny fingers.
Seriously.
Take him to dinner.
Some have a little TLC.
Take him out with your booty.
It's bad?
Oh, you said it's not bad.
Oh, it is bad.
Real bad?
No, you're fucking someone
with big hands, man.
Huh?
I'm used to it at this point.
Wait, what'd you say?
Well, how many you got to go do?
It depends on if he likes you or not.
Or if you do.
Wait, you got to keep going
to get a prostate test?
Doc, I'm not sure
you went out checking again. It depends on if you like him or not. You know what I'm saying? gotta keep going To get a prostate test Doc I'm not sure You wanna check it again
It depends on if you like him or not
You know what I'm saying
You keep going back
Listen
If you've had the real corona test
It's kind of the same thing
Just in a different area
Nose and ass is very different
Very different
Nose and ass is very different
Is he cute
Is he gentle
Come on man
Stop playing with me
He has steady hands
I can recommend him Is he got candles in the room Yo you Stop playing with me. He has steady hands.
I can recommend him. He has candles in the room.
Yo, you ever go with your girl to the gyno?
No.
Ever in life?
Wait, shut the fuck up.
No, I haven't.
Shut up.
I haven't.
Yo, I'm a sucker.
I never even came up in my time.
You are.
Yo, how did I get talked into all this bullshit?
You went to the gyno with your girl?
Numerous times.
Did you watch everything happen?
I was trying to be a fucking ride or die.
Don't you?
To help strap her in?
What type of man is you
just going to let another dude
look at your girl's box like that?
While you right there,
pussy.
While you were standing
over his shoulder like,
yeah, doc,
that's me right there.
So,
you was giving him like,
yeah, doc.
One day,
this podcast will grow up.
One day,
I promise you,
one day,
I'm telling you,
it's going to happen one day.
Why?
Well, now she can come with you to get your booty fingered.
That's true.
I want to shout out to...
I want to shout out to...
Reciprocity.
Brief pause between people that pay us and our content.
You can pay your doctor with Cash App.
That's true.
I just said, don't...
Just put the finger emoji in the description. Yeah. Just so you remember what it is for your records i just said it's true i just said don't work just put the
finger emoji in the description just so you remember what it is for your records yo what's
it called when you get um oh pto you want pto yeah just head out i gotta talk to hop
everybody got talked up um what am i saying uh shout out to uh the app that uh empowers us
tolerates us sponsors us puts up with us greatest app in the world uh cash app we appreciate you
and thank you and with that said everybody's feeling good feeling great where do you gentlemen
want to begin tell me the list don't start me off morbid it's morbid talk there's morbidity uh
i don't know I don't know.
I don't know.
But don't find any.
Yeah, no.
I'm not looking for it.
It's good vibes out there.
High vibrations.
Yeah.
Do y'all want to start with just some lighthearted fun?
Another list has been published for some reason.
Is that what we're going to start with?
Back to list analysis.
We don't have to.
Come on, give me something else.
I didn't want to talk about that.
All right, we don't have to start here.
I'm tired.
Give me a start.
I hate your starts, though.
No morbidity.
No, no, no. Nothing morbid. Or politics. Nah, man.'t have to start here. I'm tired of lists. Give me a start. I hate your starts, though. No morbidity. No, no, no.
Nothing morbid.
Or politics.
Nah, man.
My guy's gone tomorrow.
It's not fun anymore.
You got the end of the road queued up in there?
Yeah.
It's always parks.
It's always parks.
Oh, let's start here.
Let's start with this.
All right.
What do we think?
It's finally happening?
This is like our sixth analysis.
What do we think, man? You happening? This is like our sixth analysis. What do we think, man?
You notice they announced it 48 hours before, so Ashanti had no time to run.
All right, so Ashanti and Keisha Cole is scheduled for tomorrow.
Yes.
When Versus is promoting this on Instagram, they're saying things like,
the date, the final date is set.
They're saying things like, it's not real.
They say it's not real until the promo drops. And then the promo drops. They're saying things like, it's not real. They say it's not real
until the promo drops.
And then the promo drops.
I'm like, oh, it's real now.
Of just old videos of theirs together.
Back to back.
That's what made it official?
Yeah.
Well, now it is official.
And tomorrow night,
Keisha Cole and Ashanti
will go at it head to head.
I wasn't clear.
Oh, they're doing it separately.
They said that, right?
Yeah, no, they're not in the same room.
Damn.
Yeah.
It's all right.
I wonder if they found a way to make the split screen better.
That's my question.
Well, they said that this is still available on Apple TV.
So I'm assuming that the split screen will be a little better.
Okay.
Yeah.
They got the good cameras
yeah we'll see
so let me ask the generic question
do you guys still care?
I do, I'm not doing anything else
on a Thursday night
hopefully they play with the whole
this is literally a sticky note of
Rem saying can you play Ashanti for us please
from Saturday night so I have no choice but to care
because Rem cares.
Okay.
So y'all are rooting for Keisha Cole?
I think we're Ashanti people.
Oh, okay.
I think.
Look how men in relationships got to talk.
I think we're Ashanti people.
You know they can't have an opinion of their own.
No, I can't.
You can't go for Keisha.
Not on certain things.
No, no, no.
You don't miss those?
Opinions of my own?
Yeah.
Well, I have opinions on certain things,
but Ashanti versus Keisha Cole,
that, no.
Yeah, you just let that go.
Pick your battles, man.
Pick your battles.
Got it, got it.
What can we expect?
What can we expect from this?
Well, let's not gloss over that.
Even the excitement in which we spoke on
this battle the first time
and where we are now,
it's dwindled a bit,
but naturally so
when you reschedule this many times.
Well, I wanted to talk to you two.
With the amount of time that you have,
this is definitely a watch with a woman type of
versus. You guys have
only a few hours
to schedule a date and
confirm a young woman.
Oh, yeah? Are you guys a little nervous?
No.
Not at all. I didn't know you had it like that.
My bad. No, I'm never nervous. Drop of a dime
she coming. Yeah, Yeah I mean you know
I have a lot of female friends
That I just come through and chill
Like Shanti and Keisha
Can we come too?
And hang out with your female friends?
No I don't like guys around me
When I'm listening to R&B
That's reasonable
Yeah
I'm gonna watch this alone Rory
And while you're right I shouldn't
I somehow have mismanaged the
Timing this year
and I failed the local Bay Olympics there.
There is no one to invite over to enjoy this with.
Okay.
As is the same with some of the amazing
and phenomenal shows and movies that have come out.
What about maybe taking a risk
and just asking a stranger?
Watching them alone
and invite a stranger to my home.
Yeah.
Live a little.
I'm not Tamia.
I'm Joe.
Pussy.
Tamia came out with that jam back in the day.
I understand.
We got it.
We know you.
I got the joke.
We know you.
We got it.
I was trying to do you a favor.
Yeah, but this would be fly if you could watch this with somebody.
I see a lot of women having watch parties for this, though.
Women seem to be Getting together
And doing their own thing
For this one
And we ain't been
Invited to none right
No no no
Why do you think that is
Probably we need to
Sit this one out
We not them dudes no more
No
Sit this one out
Let the ladies have this one
When does a guy
Figure that out
That is not
Is he the last to know
37
That he's just not
That dude no more
You the last to accept it
You're the first to know, actually.
You know it.
You know when it's over for you, but you just don't accept it.
I be seeing some of the other dudes out here, and I'm like, I get it.
I'm not as good as him.
Times have changed.
I don't even know what haircut this nigga is wearing.
I don't know.
That wasn't on the little board back in the day.
You go to the bar These little shits
Like when the Pat Holmes
Pat Mahomes commercial come on
And everybody's trying to get
The Pat Mahomes haircut
I'm like see
Yeah
You wouldn't have thought of that
Just sit down Joe
I don't know
I think maybe you could
Pull off the
Just the two braids
Right here
And then the fade
I could see you with that
Not gonna try it
I could see you with that too Not gonna give Not gonna give it a go I could I could see you with that not gonna try it I could see you with that too
not gonna give
not gonna give it a go
I could
I could
appropriate the culture
I don't even remember
what we were talking about
Keisha Cole and Ashanti
oh I don't
listen man
when it comes on
it comes on
what does it say
Thursday night
you still got Ashanti right
yeah I'll take Ashanti
and you still don't
attribute any of this to her running, right?
No, no, no.
I don't think she was running.
You know, she had COVID.
Family had COVID.
And then they had to shut down the in-studio-together thing because of the rising cases in COVID.
It's just the times we're in, man.
Do we need to, because it's been so long, do we need to redo our forecast, our score predictions?
I'll go,
I'll go 11-9 Ashanti.
I'm going to go 11-9 Keisha Cole.
Same.
12-8 Ashanti.
If Rem's okay with that.
Matter of fact,
I didn't check with Rem yet.
Go upstairs and confirm.
Text her and get her score right now.
I do think that
them not being together is an advantage for Ashanti.
Because when they would have been together and Keisha started singing, singing on some of those ballads.
Pressure.
I think it would have been a little tough for Ashanti to then just come in and be like, here's a hook from this Ja record.
So I think them being separate is going to look a little different.
Okay.
The thing,
one of my favorite things about verses,
and we won't stay on this too long,
is I like to see artists
be face-to-face with certain records.
So though I'm rooting for Ashanti,
I wanted to see her have to face Rain,
Rain On Me,
in person.
Okay.
It's different.
I was going to say,
Ashanti made Rain On Me.
Rain On Me is Ashanti.
I wanted to see, I'm saying I wanted to see Keisha have to face that. Okay. That's what I meant gonna say Ashanti made Rain On Me that's what I'm saying I wanted to see
I'm saying I wanted to see
Keisha have to face that
okay
that's what I meant to say
gotcha
there's certain Keisha records
that I wanted to see Ashanti
have to be faced with
face to face
so yeah
the dual screen shoot
is cool
but I would've liked them
to still be in person
but safety first
and hopefully they figured out
a way to make it
flow well
with the split screen thing,
where they can hear each other and see each other.
Timing, all that type of shit.
I mean, either way, there's not going to be bad record play.
True.
It's going to be a fun night.
True.
Is it a kickback kind of night?
I think so.
It's a red wine.
I think this is the kickback.
It's R&B.
It's R&B.
And it's 2000s R&B. that's the even more kickback yeah type
shit yeah yeah no you're absolutely right uh so on the heels of that battle being announced there
are rumblings of travis scott versus future in a versus matchup yeah and this is coming from
timberland's manager allegedly i haven't spoken to him, but this sounds exciting.
If it were to happen, I have future.
I'll keep my commentary brief.
And that's that.
But boy, would that be an event.
Of course.
That's one I hope that they're able to pull off in person.
That's what I appreciated about Jeezy and Gucci's verses,
is that the after effects of those two gentlemen doing it
would be other dudes that I feel like would normally scoff at it
to say, I'll do it.
Like Travis Scott and Future are the two gentlemen
I just wouldn't see jumping for joy and rushing to do verses.
But now it has...
Yeah, because Travis is a fairly new artist in terms of verses.
Travis is gone.
That's why I don't think
this is a good matchup.
He's gone.
He's gone.
He's out of here.
He's out of here.
He's a superstar,
but I'm just saying-
Out of here.
As far as the verses that we've gotten-
He's got a happy meal, for God's sake.
Yeah, he's out of here.
Don't you like when you see people
get out of here
that were like right here with us?
Yeah.
Doesn't that feel nice?
Yeah, it's good to see.
Like when you look at certain things that their team did and and decisions they made to really
push them through especially actual talented musically artists too like certain decisions
that you know other people might not make if put in that same position like when travis dumped all
his all his show money back into the show and just ran around for a whole year in the red.
But it looked like the illest thing you ever saw in your life on stage.
I want to say that wasn't that before the Kanye shit?
No.
No, I don't think so.
No, Kanye had the elaborate floating stage and shit first.
That was first.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hell yeah.
Oh, he maybe got that sauce from him.
Why not?
That's what it's about, though. You got to commend's about though you gotta commend people you see artists do things and you
you like okay i don't care where you got it from yeah that's dope like that because everybody ain't
dumping their show money into their show true no especially when you sit at home and wonder why
gentlemen got that far they did something yeah they did something different they did something
adverse they did something that
wasn't so predictable niggas don't just ride the same blueprint to success no no no and that's
what's so beautiful about hip-hop real talent when people recognize real talent it it stands out
and he's an artist i agree with all of you but with that said do you guys think this is a fair
matchup yeah i don't care if it's fair what do you mean by fair it's dope it's a vibe it should happen i'm with you as a vibe because i love both of them and you know
atlanta get hype when one of the answers in there future has more it's been around longer so it's
been around just i don't think it's a but travis has a lot of very big records so he has features
that have worked there i just think future is a different monster well
a versus battle well what you said off mic uh was that you don't think sicko mode ever beats march
madness right i didn't say ever i just i think oh you took a word out all right their biggest
records i still think future even wins when you go to their biggest records yeah because i think
future in the beginning is killing travis with those early records and then i think when you go to their biggest records. Yeah. Because I think Future in the beginning is killing Travis with those early records.
And then I think when you get to the bigger ones,
yeah, I think March Madness versus Sicko Mode,
I don't care which is the bigger record on paper.
Culturally, I think March Madness beats Sicko Mode.
I don't know.
That's a close one.
Shut up.
Either way, I'm happy to hear both records.
Yeah, me too.
You might be right or wrong, but shut up.
I don't care
Don't say culturally to me
A day after Martin Luther King did
Yo speak
Speaking of right
Of what
Of Martin Luther King day
Okay
First of all rest in peace
Martin Luther King
Of course
That's first and foremost
And happy birthday
And happy birthday to Martin Luther King
And happy birthday to Mac Miller
That too And happy birthday to Mac Miller.
That too.
And happy birthday to Mac Miller.
Rest in peace to Mac Miller.
Saturday night, I had my baby, and I did one of those things.
This is one of the moments where I wish y'all had kids so y'all could feel me.
And I did one of those things where you drop your baby off just in case.
Okay.
Just in case you.
Parents feel me, though.
They might not feel me.
I don't know if the court system will. Well, maybe not parents.
Dads.
Dads.
Dads is feeling me.
I think there's some moms that probably feel you, too.
And some of you moms.
Hussies.
I'm joking.
Wow, look at the double standard.
That's true.
That's fucked up.
Speak to it.
Expound.
No.
Let's unpack that.
No.
We'll take a pack.
So I drop my baby off because my mom really wanted to spend time with Lex, right?
And I get home thinking it was about to be lit.
And what I found was, you guessed it, it wasn't lit.
No, it's a new lit.
It was the exact opposite of lit.
Yes, Maul.
It's a new lit.
See?
We running a two-man weave.
It's a new lit.
Clear out Rory and Parks. Go ahead. Our definitions of lit have, Maul It's a new lit See? We running a two-man weave It's a new lit Clear out, Rory
Go ahead
Our definitions of lit have changed
That's true
Sometimes you just want to be alone
Sometimes you don't want no responsibility
Sometimes you just want quiet
Being alone
Sometimes you just want to walk naked to the fridge
And grab something to drink
Yo, you speaking to my soul right now
Yeah, that's man shit
Yo, we soul ties
Okay
You don't think so?
Okay
Listen, so I get home and nothing is popping it's super quiet
and i turn the leds on take a page out of your book i turn the tv on search for some movies and
it was so quiet and beautiful and it smelled great i was like yo this is the vibe absolutely
no no no i don't want company over no get the text out of here no alone is the vibe
you chose yourself and somehow yes rory get your shit off white man a day after martin luther king
day get the shit off what you got to say and i turn on a martin luther king doc on a saturday
night with a nice meal and the leds and that was the night and it was was beautiful. But this specific doc, and I guess that's my thing now,
is just relearning about things that I thought I knew about.
This specific doc in the little paragraph that tells you about it,
because boy, do that hype me up.
That's my thing, reading those and it's lit.
A good trailer, yeah.
Yeah, so I read that, and the shit said, I thought they was lying.
But they said it.
They said, many years ago, the FBI had a tap on Martin Luther King.
Now, and for the first time ever, the taps are revealed.
And I said, nigga, shut up.
Don't fucking try to sell me.
I got $4.99 for you.
I'll watch it.
So I turn it on, and lo and behold.
They had the tapes.
They kept the files.
Let's revisit this Martin Luther King stuff. Please, break it down. Behold. They had the tapes. They kept the files. Yeah.
Let's revisit this Martin Luther King stuff.
Yeah.
Please, break it down.
How was it?
It was really good.
Yeah?
The same way that Park spoke about the Reagan doc.
No, this was like a, this is on Amazon Prime.
Got you.
I purchased it.
I purchased it on just the movie thing.
But it came on, right? and i guess the part that some of
the parts that i just forgot about what they were talking about how to you know the technology of
course was different back then yeah so for the fed for the fbi to actually tap your phone
they had to go knock on your door as the phone guy talk to your family and say you uh
talk to your family and say,
you gotta do some shit to your phone.
And that's how they tapped his phone.
Yeah, that's fucked up.
Boy, I was so mad for Martin.
Ah, yo, if you get me like that.
Yeah.
That's how they got a lot of people. So they tapped his phone and the FBI,
which somehow is still up and running to this day.
And tweeting happy Martin Luther King Day.
Yeah, man.
Some of the slaps in the face to black people in America is crazy.
Yeah.
Like, that's what that doc said.
Oh, yeah, so that was the other part.
I mean, they had Martin under surveillance,
and it just so happens it was like 900 of the FBI and the cops there
when dude got the drop on him.
He was assassinated.
Yeah. Why we don't ever highlight that part
when we talk about this stuff?
Yes, he was assassinated.
Yes, we have our beliefs as to why he was assassinated,
but he was assassinated under surveillance?
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They knew it was coming.
He was murdered by the government.
Y'all used the media to fucking say that Martin was having sex?
That's how y'all vilified this great man?
Yeah.
It made me sick to my stomach.
But boy, it was a great doc.
And I felt so mature spending my Saturday night on Martin Luther King weekend watching this.
This is it.
This is the trailer right here.
It's called MLK slash FBI.
That is the name of it.
Straight to the point.
They got right to the point.
Okay.
Yeah, this was nuts.
What's homeboy's name?
Hoover?
Oh, my God.
Well, we know.
We know.
That's all I have to say.
But, I mean, it showed a little more about him being tied to the president
and the black man rising.
Like, hold up.
Get Duke.
Yeah. Why don't, see. Never mind, man. Forget it. It was a really good watch. him being tied to the president and the black man rising like hold up get the get duke yeah why
don't see never mind man forget it it was a really good watch that's all and and and for all the
complaining i've done about there being nothing to watch let me tell y'all now it's mad stuff to
watch yeah it's a lot there's mad stuff to watch i still haven't't seen One Night in Paris. I haven't seen that either.
Amazon Prime, we talked about it last week.
One Night in Miami.
I'm sorry.
You're so well-traveled that you just get confused.
That was really good.
I'd just be in Miami.
You will too, won't you?
I had to cancel my trip to Miami.
Look, look, look.
You don't want to joke with Joe no more.
You don't want to joke with Joe no more. You don't want to joke with Joe no more.
Look.
Look, you want to take a sip?
I'm joking.
Thirsty?
Let's joke.
Take a little sip.
Yeah.
No, I don't want to joke with you.
Fuck out of here.
No, I'll be in Paris.
How?
Do you know why I don't go to Greece?
Why?
Because we do two pods a week.
Duh.
Yeah.
That is the only reason I do not go.
Yo, the algorithms keep showing me Mykonos.
Yeah.
Beautiful.
They got it.
They showed me a mall's bag.
Hey, Cor, what's that thing mall used to invite girls
over and lay on in the yard? Oh, the hammock.
They showed me a hammock
in Mykonos. Mall with the hammock.
You remember.
I won't expose it. You was a
fucking creep.
For all the jokes you make About me bringing
Outside inside
Or whatever you say
The fire
You was
The hammock belongs outside
You would bring the hammock
In the living room
That's the difference
That's the difference
Look at the stars
That's the difference
Yeah but you got the hammock
In a box
It's beautiful inside
No he got the box
In a box
You do
Don't box it up
I'm restricting it to just outside?
Yes, don't box it up.
A hammock is beautiful.
I'd be too terrified.
Your balance must be good
to try to fuck on a hammock.
I would be terrified.
No, I ain't saying
it was fucking in there,
but that's where he created the vibe.
Finger banging.
And somehow he always made it
to his bedroom with the girls
while I had him under surveillance.
I'm sitting from the balcony.
I'm sitting from the balcony. I'm sitting from the balcony.
Don't do that.
You over.
I'm sitting on the balcony watching like he disappeared.
Just go, you know,
a little further investigation.
He's like fucking
what's Shaq
when he was a genie
or some shit?
Shazam?
Shazam is funny.
Shazam is funny too.
No, Shazam.
But let's talk about Shazam. I thought it was just Shaq. Shazam. So you know what Shazam is funny Shazam is funny too Shazam But let's talk about Shazam
I thought it was just Shaq
Shazam
So you know what Shazam killed for me?
Like there is certain gratification
When you got the aux and you jamming
And then somebody like
Yo
Yo what's that?
It's like yo I got you
No not in the accent
Yo sit right there
Let the bridge rock out
I'm gonna give you the title
Nah now they Shazam your shit. Nah, that is Shazam
your shit on a low.
I love Shazam.
And I think that's wrong.
Yeah, it is.
And I think somebody
needs to say it.
Stealing sauce.
You should not be able
to steal sauce
without acknowledging
that you're stealing sauce.
Yeah, you have to admit it.
And as a music lover,
I really appreciate Shazam.
Didn't Apple buy Shazam?
Genius.
Probably.
I wouldn't be surprised. Somebody bought Shazam. Okay. Years ago, I said somebody should buy Shazam. Somebody bought Shazam. Didn't Apple buy Shazam? Genius. Probably.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Somebody bought Shazam.
Okay.
Years ago, I said somebody should buy Shazam.
Somebody bought Shazam.
But as a dude, as a music lover, when somebody's playing some fire, there's no cool way to like-
You know what you're playing?
Pull your phone out and just sneak the Shazam.
You don't want them to see you doing that.
Right.
That goes back to, remember the old commercial when they was playing a record and he's like,
let me borrow it.
He's like, no, my my brother you got to get your own
your own playlist now shazam get rid of all of that nigga just pull his phone out shazam
your shit add right there let's see when i have shazam shit that i know just to remember oh that's
the line you should add this that's the line that's the line they give them oh i know this
record i forgot about this once i've really done done that to remind myself. Yo, this was in my playlist. I already got this.
Forgot about that one.
Yeah.
Me, I just hit the button and get right in the small talk.
I hit the shit, Shazam.
So how's your family doing?
Everything's been cool?
Miss Greg.
Greg's still gone?
He's still away?
Yeah.
He's peaking on his phone.
There's no cool way to Shazam.
That's all I'm saying.
There's no cool way to Shazam.
Nah, just admit. Yo, I don't know this. Yeah, just ask somebody. Like, yo, what's this? still away yeah there's no cool way to shazam that's all i'm saying there's no cool way just
just admit yo i don't know this yeah just ask somebody like yo what's this shit back in the
days so wait wait wait wait labels off the vinyl so you couldn't see what they were doing exactly
listen i would agree with you and rory about yeah just fucking what'd you say just say you don't
know it just say you don't know it that makes sense until you insert a woman.
No, I think it's fine. Now, let a woman know that you didn't know that song,
and you hit the Shazam, and you think that her music taste is fire.
I dare you.
You will never hit the end of it.
No, that's the difference.
I wouldn't hit the Shazam.
She's going to tell all her friends.
I wouldn't hit the Shazam on a record a woman is playing.
I would ask her.
That's a conversation.
Yeah, exactly.
That's a conversation.
It's more like the cool kid table.
You don't want to look
like the uncool kid.
Yeah, like, who is this?
And then that's a whole conversation.
Then she'll play something else.
Women with great music taste
is the greatest thing ever.
That's what I'm saying.
And they have the best pussy.
And sex.
Okay.
I'm not mad at that theory.
I see the correlation.
They do.
Yeah.
I mean, in my experience.
I don't know.
You've only fucked
thousands of women.
I haven't. I'm joking. Yeah, but tell them. I'm joking in my experience. Yeah. I don't know. You've only fucked thousands of women. I haven't.
I'm joking.
Yeah, but tell them.
I'm joking.
He's telling me.
He cleared up with the people over there.
He's telling me.
Yeah, clear it up over there.
I get heat on my phone after the pod too sometimes.
This nigga, man.
You didn't tell her your body count?
Where we at?
Where we at?
No, they don't ask me that no more.
You know your body count?
Yeah.
Wow.
Look at Maul.
Shut up.
Maul hasn't said anything. I haven't said one word.
I haven't said one word. Wait, you don't?
I don't think so. I mean, I could figure it out if I stopped
thinking about it. Oh, wait, we're home. My bad.
No, I just don't. I don't know. Is she in there?
No. Oh, so you can talk? Breathe.
I don't know. I don't know the numbers.
I stopped counting after
20-something. And I said
loosen up your hands.
What is he telling me?
Neck choking.
Nigga, talk.
No, let me help you.
Be yourself.
Parks and I are drinkers.
That too.
Yeah, we stumbled into some things we probably shouldn't have done and tried to forget about it.
And succeeded in forgetting about it sometimes.
Yeah, alcohol.
That has definitely happened to me.
I've definitely forgot
that I've had sex with some women
until they reminded me
and I'm just awkward now
like, oh shit.
Or when they say hi to you
and you look at them
like a stranger
and they go,
are you fucking serious?
Or you see them
and like the people
you may know on Instagram,
you're like,
oh, I do know her.
Listen, that was the minute.
I think I've talked about that
before in this podcast.
That was the minute.
But MLK and FBI,
yes, great watch.
That was the reason.
Yeah, let's circle back to that.
Reset the room.
MLK, yes.
Listen, that's when I knew
that Maul couldn't live with me anymore.
It was when we had got back from Melody
and I woke up and looked over
and didn't know who this Pittsburgh girl was
that was laying there.
But she was mad into me.
I was like, damn, what'd I do last night?
You got romantic with her? Yo, I must was mad into me. I was like, damn, what I did last night. You got romantic with her.
Yo, I must have really turned it.
Yo, when you get too lit and just turn it on.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
And then you forgot?
Yeah.
It's like, damn, we was kissing in public.
Yeah.
But anyway, as I'm looking at the girl trying to figure out who she is,
Maul texts me.
He said, yo, look at you.
Yo, look what you're doing.
It's never good when your friend tells you to look at yourself.
You have to.
He said, yo, you was a wild boy last night.
I'm like, damn, man.
It always feels terrible when you're hungover.
But you have to.
That's what friends are for.
Because it's your friends you could get wild around,
and your friends that's going to remind you of when you was getting wild.
Yeah, you have.
That's part of it.
The next day, after a night of getting wild.
Don't tell me about it.
Give me two days.
I never had the right, like, support my wild friends.
Like, I was just cursing Corey out the other day about when he thought he was slick when I got out of jail and he deleted one digit off of the Molly dealer's number.
One digit.
It only takes nine tries.
But you don't know which digit it was.
No, fuck Corey.
I was worried to death about the Molly dealer.
I thought the Molly dealer died.
I'm like, yo, we have such a good rapport.
Fam, I dumped all this money into you.
You won't even hit me.
Yo, nigga, you better be all right. You better be dead. Yo, I went and this money into you. You won't even hit me. Yo, nigga, you better be alright.
You better be dead. Yo, I went
and looked at the number one day. I said,
wait, 3-3-3-7-2-1.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can't text.
Why I oughta?
Yo, don't do that no more, man.
There's no more Molly dealers, but don't do that no more.
Oh, man, that's funny. Those are the good old days
of Molly. Anyway, where we at?
I'm just rambling now.
I'm okay.
Y'all ramble.
What happened to y'all life?
What's y'all life?
What's your life like, nigga?
Y'all ramble.
Let's get back to, listen, so over the weekend, I saw JT from the City Girls, and JT is, I
love JT.
I support her, so I'll just shut up and leave it there.
We support the City Girls.
Yeah, I really do.
I really do, but her Wi-Fi is too great.
She got that good package?
Yo.
Verizon High Speed?
That's easily 500 over 800,
whatever that is.
Yeah, yeah, mega,
mega gigahertz.
Yeah, it's true.
JT said,
if the world was open,
we would have had hits for real
because we make outside music,
crying emoji.
True.
And to be honest with y'all,
the retired MC in me was stuck on that
for at least two days okay i got to thinking you make inside music
yeah and i and i and i and i released that way though like i normally released records i said
that before here too in in october december yeah anything where the weather was about to get crazy
and you could really sit with the music so i understand what she's saying i do think there's
a direct correlation there between outside nice weather seasons and when you release music so i
get that i totally agree with her i was stumped because at what point as an artist are you forced
to adapt and as artists we, we've asked ourselves that question
throughout our careers
because times change.
Trends change.
Sling changes.
How you dress.
All that shit changes.
This is probably the one time in history
where you don't have a choice.
Yeah.
2020 was the time to adapt.
There is nothing else to do.
Yeah.
So when she said that,
it did confuse me for a little bit.
Listen, I told y'all a couple weeks ago,
I've been talking to fucking financial advisors,
accountants, all types of shit,
and a lot of them are telling me
it's quiet, quiet for the entertainers.
I'm sure.
Like, quiet, quiet.
Like, why do some of y'all keep pretending
like the clubs are going to be open
and touring is back
and shit about to be lit this year at all?
It's not.
Right?
I'm not far-fetched here, right?
Some of these people act like they don't know that.
But I don't even think it's particular to artists that make outside music like the City Girls.
It's even the indie artists that rely on 200, 300 people's shows all around the country also have to adjust.
Yeah.
So it's literally everybody in the music business and life, period.
Everyone has to adjust.
But since we're talking about music, yeah, I'm not just going to say we should feel sorry
just for the people that make summer hit records.
This is everybody in music.
When do you have to do it versus waiting it out?
And when does it become imperative to your career?
And how do you do that today i mean in this instance i would say by mid-summer last year you should have been like
okay we probably gotta adjust you have to adapt mid-summer last year i'm still trying to wait
some of it out yeah because if they were telling me that a vaccine is coming in January, February, I'm thinking I could wait until summer 21, fall 21, and still catch them.
Yeah.
And this is for those.
I don't think that you're being truthful to who you are.
I think you're a doomsdayer.
Okay.
If it were me while I was active, my solution is to release more.
Yeah.
I'm going to release four projects, five projects,
EPs, two packs, loosies. I'm going to wild out for the year. You're going to hate my guts.
I'm calling you every day. Oh, what you doing? Let's get to it. And that would be my solution.
But JT and them, they play a different game. So it's about mass consumption and scale and
other things. Clubs, strip clubs.
Yeah, I don't know.
If I'm JTing them, if I'm the City Girls, I'm figuring something out.
Now is not the time for me to sit home and say, yo, if outside, we're open.
Now, she's probably doing well for herself, so she can say that.
It's funny.
A lot of their allure was waiting.
Free JT for a while.
A lot of the City Girls brand
has been anticipation
for them to be able
to put shit out.
Of course,
they put out music
with JT versus
before she went to jail
and did just fine.
But,
a lot of the City Girls shit
has been waiting.
I just don't understand
what,
she's,
because you said
we would have had hits
because we make outside music.
People have made hits in 2020. True. It wasn hits because we make outside music people have made
hits in 2020 true it wasn't a lot of outside yeah but even like yeah but let's use let's use the
biggest i've never seen an inside music hit what's the inside music hit there are inside music hits
yeah name one a hit is a hit a hit means adele made inside music hits. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Okay, and let's say hip-hop.
I think Summer Walker made inside hits last year.
Hip-hop.
Because when you say inside, it don't necessarily have to be indoor.
You can be in a car.
Right.
Like, it don't have to be I'm home meditating.
I just can't...
I can't get behind this.
Like, Lil Baby makes car music.
To me.
You don't have to be outside in the club.
You don't have to be trapping. You don't have to be outside in the club. You don't have to be trapping.
You don't have to be selling drugs.
You can just be in the car going somewhere, and that music is appropriate.
Yeah, but I mean, the City Girls-
If I got company coming to my house, I can turn Lil Baby on and quiet in the background.
Everything's fine.
Yeah, but the women can do that, too.
When they have their little get-togethers, they play the City Girls.
If City Girls come on in my house, I'm trying to fuck somebody at the end of the night.
Yeah, so that's what I just didn't understand.
Same with WAP.
Same with Meg.
I know her sentiment, meaning things have changed, so we haven't been as active.
Did I tell y'all about when I played WAP 75 times in a row?
I wish you wouldn't do that, but.
You know.
Look up.
Hey, look up.
Streaming for Atlantic.
I don't want to look up.
Yeah, I bet you don't.
I want to look up, nigga.
I bet you don't.
But you can't understand this, Mo, at all?
That they would focus on the clubs and the outdoor scene?
Well, I'm just saying the people that make the same type of music
have made that type of music in 2020 and been very successful.
But I think even Drake with that Laugh Now, Cry Later.
Damn it.
We were doing so well 48 minutes without him.
Well, let's use the biggest artist in the world during the pandemic.
That record was big,
but it could have been bigger
had it been outside
because that was written
to be an outside record.
Yeah, I just don't understand.
It's a sing-along.
That's meant for a lot of people
to stand there
and sing it together.
I get what she's saying
because they do make music
for, you know,
to shake music,
shake your ass,
turn up, have fun, get lit.
They make that.
But not for nothing,
they also make TikTok music.
Well, that's why I said, what's a hit?
What makes a hit?
A hit.
Because for their demographic, TikTok.
Yeah, there's ways to stream music and people don't have to be in a strip club.
That's true.
And that goes back to adjusting.
Yeah.
Meg did it with her album, with the dances and everything.
I make outdoor music but let me
make a dance
and try to get some money
on social apps
so
every artist has to adapt
regardless of
I get the sentiment
about what she was saying
I definitely get the sentiment
but
yeah you gotta adjust
you gotta start making music
that people can play wherever
don't just focus on the club
or
you know
shit like that
just make good music.
It plays everywhere.
While we were on music, somebody sent me this clip and said,
this is how LMA next album was supposed to sound.
This song was made by LMA.
Written by LMA.
Why is his accent so funny?
Produced by LMA.
Okay, I didn't produce it, but I did help.
Not to be remixed by anyone but LMA.
Jaquese, I bloody dare you.
Yeah, right? You like that?
Truth.
No, Joe. No, Joe.
Just truth.
No, I get it. Stupid. No.
I get it.
I forget it, man.
I get it.
Don't even worry about it.
Y'all not going to trick me into rereading a Meek tweet.
They scream, man.
That was a nice try, buddy.
No, give it a read.
Want me to turn you up?
I'm about to just start dropping shit.
No promo or nothing.
Rap getting weak.
All the systems you got to go through to put out music.
Shit will have you overthinking.
He's right.
I'm about to say I don't disagree with him at all.
And the type of shit Meek makes.
Because Meek can do the outdoor shit and the indoor shit.
Yeah.
His last little EP, I mean, I say little EP, but his last EP sounded like outdoor music.
It did.
Yeah.
It definitely did.
It sounded like it.
That plays a big part in this.
I don't want to get stuck here, but that just plays a big part in this.
I feel for JT, but you artists, man.
I've said this before, and I'll say it again here.
Now is the time to push your creative boundaries.
We've never lived in a world like this.
That's who we are.
All we ever have done was tell the story of our time.
So if there's no outside music, if you think that there's no such thing as outside music
then where are you what are you pushing your mind to create in a time like this
that we've never seen before i challenge creators to to get get jiggy with that you better
i would be having a blast putting out music what just because of what this time would be doing to my brain
and what it would be making me think of.
I thought of Three Sides to a Story in 02.
Today?
Right.
People can't go out.
They trapped vaccines, aliens, Martians, Trump.
Are you kidding me?
Rappers, clothes, all that shit that we thought was fly, it's a new way.
It's a blank canvas now. You telling
me, Joe, who never cared about
image or how he look and all this bullshit,
that none of that matters anymore. Now it's
about us living and finding a way?
Sign me up.
Sign me up. But I don't think so many people
today in the microwave ever are ready for that
challenge. We not looking for longevity.
True.
And everywhere where
City Girls would prospect
And everybody don't want
the same thing.
It's fine.
Miami's open, right?
That's true.
Yeah, but you got to stop
saying that.
Atlanta, Houston.
Atlanta's open.
Miami's open.
Houston is open.
But if you were artists,
you would be scared
to release a project
where only three
major cities are open.
I'm not saying you wouldn't and listen you're a
woman so your your budget you've spent yeah you've spent your budget your maintenance just
maintenance of you you've spent some money you can you not doing that i don't think you're doing it
doing what putting out music not when only three major cities is is. If you feel like you can only make outdoor music, no.
I think they make more than that. The funny shit is, if JT got introspective, think about it.
It'll be interesting.
Think about that.
She has a story.
She should.
I know.
And I apologize if she has done that.
I was going to say, she's-
I apologize if she has done that.
Maybe she has.
Her first day out record, I felt was introspective.
What I mean is, yeah, but it felt like, hey, let me put my introspective record out sure what if she leaned
into it what if that was just jt now yo and two niggas come back outside y'all getting jt that
just came home i'm giving y'all how i feel it's hard i like that i like it too um all right hey
jt love you of course uh what else we got what else we got do y'all want to talk about this list
now sure and that's so much the list because we've seen this before.
We've seen this before.
Actually, I was just laughing at how these lists used to really fuck with my emotional currency.
It's well documented.
I used to be really, really invested.
You know, you got to laugh at how stupid you were at an earlier time in life.
It's so much more fun in hindsight.
I was just saying that too. Like the compound days, as stupid as we used to act, I appreciate time in life. It's so much more fun in hindsight. I was just saying that too.
Like, compound days,
as stupid as we used to act,
I appreciate that in hindsight.
Not so much as it was happening.
I can't give you too much shit
because as someone that's not a rapper,
these lists have gotten me.
I could only imagine as a rapper.
So I can't give you too much shit.
And this is before I knew
that these lists were created to do that,
to get a rise out of you. of you they're not made to be right
they're made to
cause controversy
and conversation
well nothing can be right
music is subjective
in some places it's not
music is a matter of opinion
they love to say that
all that dumb shit
they say right
Funkmaster Flex
has put out his list of the top 50 living MCs.
I have nothing to say about this list because I know the purpose of lists.
And this is his list.
I know when they come out.
This is his.
Music is subjective.
Nothing to argue about.
He gave his criteria.
It doesn't say his opinion.
It says skill level his criteria body
of work and impact it's not funk flex's favorite artist no just but that's his criteria all right
got it i like that criteria though not mad all right so let's read them starting from number one
jay-z three stack naz rakim drake see if you're going to put Drake at five,
I don't need to see questionable pen next to his name.
If you have him at number five, who cares?
But this has been part of Flex.
Obviously, there's something coming because he went on with Gilly and Wallow
and started talking about Drake again and Jay-Z again.
Clearly, this is part of his scheme to get the attention to whatever he's about to put out.
He talked about Drake's pen and the Funk Flex freestyle when he did the Blackberry shit.
Yeah.
And then to put questionable pen right after that.
Flex is obviously doing this on purpose.
So, Drake, J. Cole, Kendrick, Wright, 5, 6, and 7.
Pusha T at 8.
Jadakiss at 9.
Black Thought at 10.
KRS, Slick Rick, Lil Wayne, LL, Eminem,
50, Kanye, Questionable Pin, there it is
again. Styles, P, Mase, Big Daddy, Kane
at 20.
Then we have Cam'ron, Busta Rhymes, Fabulous,
Redman, Remy Ma to round out the
top 25. Do you guys have anything to
say thus far? Not really.
So that means you have mad things to say,
but you won't say it because you're scared to death of Funk Flex
and you know it'll push your shit back.
All right, what's the next one?
Let me see.
26.
He's that Rocky.
Raekwon.
DMX.
Most Def.
Beans.
Lord Finesse.
Coogee Rap.
Fat Joe.
Common.
Lloyd Banks.
Ice Cube.
This is a bogus ass list, man.
This is why I don't have anything to say.
I can't sit here and keep watching.
I'm not mad at the names.
It's the orders.
You can fight about all day
If this is not no particular order
Then that's different
Right
But if this is
I just found my first problem
That I'll be vocal about
Ice Cube at 36
If you're going off skill level
Body of work and impact
By your own criteria
That's off
Yeah
No if you're going this far
You gotta go back to Drake at 5
If you're going off a body of work and impact.
Somebody could put him
at five.
And bars too.
That's not disrespectful.
I'm not saying it's not,
but not with the names above him.
Ice Cube at 36
is nuts.
That's low.
Then we have Melly Mel,
Grandmaster Kaz,
Kumo D,
Meek,
Big Sean,
Lauren,
Talib,
Kweli,
Ludacris,
T.I.,
Rick Ross,
Ghostface,
Eve, Nikki, and Young Thug at number 50. What do you think? Meek Big Sean Lauren Talib Kweli Ludacris T.I. Rick Ross Ghostface Eve
Nikki
and Young Thug
at number 50
what do you think
good or bad list
so a horrible list
did he do his due diligence
a terrible list
I've seen a lot of bad lists
in my time
this might be the worst
nah it's not the worst
now can you tell me
not the worst
can y'all tell me
why this list is so bad
without belittling
any MC that's mentioned
no got it it's impossible any MC that's mentioned?
No.
Got it.
It's impossible to do.
That's the point of the list.
Yeah.
Is to make people shit on people.
Well, let me just get to the first five.
Hov, Three Stacks, Nas, Rakim, Drake.
I'm not mad at that.
I'm mad at that.
Drake has a better body of work and impact than probably 98% of rappers ever.
So we just got to be honest.
There's not four names in front of him.
Well, he's got the questionable pen asterisk.
I understand that.
But still, body of work and impact.
And bars.
Questionable pen comes in at the skill level bars.
Yeah.
Cool.
And I'm not saying I question Drake's pen or anything like that,
but if that's his shit,
then I get it.
Yeah, but he still has a better body of work
than Rakim.
You can question the pen
all you want.
He still has more of an impact
than Rakim.
I don't know about impact.
Huh?
I don't know.
Impact?
You know what impact means?
I do.
Okay.
Do you know what Rakim did
to the way people rapped?
I was going to say,
I don't think Drake wouldn't rap the way he rap.
I'm not saying Rakim doesn't have impact.
I'm just saying Drake has had more of an impact on music, period, than Rakim.
On music.
I don't know.
Okay.
I mean, if you go back to the lineage, you could make an argument that Drake's impact is because of the impact Rakim made.
We're not doing that.
I see what y'all going on.
And then Rakim had, you can go to Melly Mel's and then put Melly Mel at three then.
No, I'm saying directly how Rakim changed how rappers rapped completely.
No, I-
Into what almost they rap like today.
No, no, no.
You're talking to somebody that grew up on Rakim.
I understand that.
I'm just saying body of work.
There's not many artists that have a better body of work than Drake.
I was only talking about impact.
There's not many artists that have a better body of work than drake i was only talking about impact there's not i agree many artists that have a bigger impact than he's had if you don't
question drake's pen you i would be comfortable putting him at two with that criteria of skill
level bars body of work and impact i have no problem with drake at two got you yeah but the
asterisk that's you know if that's i don't agree with the asterisk, but if that's his thing, then I get it. It'll turn me on up in this piece.
You on.
Oh,
and that's how I know the vibes is back more.
Huh?
I was over there standing to the side in the way of something that Rory needed.
He came over there,
said,
excuse me.
I said,
nah,
what if I don't excuse you?
Know what he said?
Then I'll move you.
You got it.
God,
man. That's that energy. that energy peace God that good tunnel chasing cash that's my brother from the surf club I mean it's my brother from the surf club right here Rory you don't know him I don't want you to
move me see in my life I have been pivoted unwillingly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's not fun.
No.
When you lose your footing?
I didn't lose it.
I thought I was stationary.
Thought you were planning it?
Oh, man.
I did the whole leg spread.
I tried to move me there.
I was dangling in the air.
Yeah.
He moved me to a whole separate location.
That was kidnapping.
That was kidnapping.
Oh, man.
Look at Moe, never been moved.
Only Joe.
Hey, only Joe got stories from his past.
I'm in school.
I'm being moved.
Nobody else been moved.
I've been moved.
No, no, no, no.
Yo, one time, this dude was so polite.
I had already lost the fight.
Right?
Nigga just stood up.
He wiped you off?
Nigga picked me up. Picked me up at the end of the fight
i'm so glad it wasn't girls around don't pick me up wait my last fight i want i picked somebody up
too oh see look at that but listen dude pick me up reciprocity drag me over to a tree in my aniche
dragged my aniche all on the ground
and then just stared at me
like mercifully like,
nah, you good now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm like.
I feel bad.
Thank the Lord.
I can see the fear
in your eyes.
Yo, I stayed down
until he pulled off too.
Smart.
Nah, that's smart.
I was injured.
Yeah, yeah, that's smart.
Yeah, nah, I've seen it
on Channel ID
when dudes fake dead before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It works. I laid there bloody with no blood. I was injured. I've seen it on Channel ID when dudes fake dead before.
I laid there bloody with no blood.
I was so bloody.
Dude had to leave.
I had a chick in the car.
What's up?
We out?
No.
What's up?
We out now, ma?
She said, I'll find another ride home.
Hey, you lose the fight in front of her, you've lost your ma privileges.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You have to address her by her name, full name, middle name, middle all of that.
No, you ma now.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm like, you good, my nigga?
Are you good?
Yeah, yeah.
Bleeding, not me.
He was big.
Anyway, so I appreciate Rory for bringing the vibes back.
Shout out to the Rory Hive.
We here.
You ever have to try to explain to a girl why you lost the fight too?
Nah.
She know why.
She was there.
What excuses did you come up with?
He fights better than me.
My hands are trash.
Yeah, yeah.
He fights better than me.
Man, you ain't see the puddle?
It's been 90 and sunny all day, bro.
Come on.
Let's stay immature.
What's worse, ducking a girl because you lost the fight or ducking a girl because you got
a hickey from another girl on the spot?
You shouldn't have one.
Nah, ducking a girl. I say that the or ducking a girl because you got a hickey from another girl on the spot you shouldn't have one? I say that the hickey was the fight.
What did the spoon solve?
Remember that move?
Yeah. It didn't work. It hurt more.
I have sensitive skin.
Yeah, your whole neck is red now.
Then you found your girl cousins with the shit
that would cover it up, not knowing that girls know
makeup and go, I can see you have makeup on your neck.
Yeah. A hickey is the only thing
we never successfully figured out
how to lie to.
Like the visible hickey.
Remember when girls used to do that on purpose
just to put you under pressure?
Of course.
I hate that shit.
That was a terrible era.
And then you tell them to stop.
Why?
Because I don't want you to mark my neck.
I don't want people to know
that you're fake as a savage.
Why?
You have a girlfriend?
Maybe.
No, I'm just really white.
And this won't go away for a week
Oh yeah that was hell for you
That was hell for you
And me
You too
Yeah 1000%
I bruise easily
Well
Gotta get like karate man
Karate man bruise on the inside
I taught you that
You know what I'm saying
You're not a karate man
Yo they made Tiger sound so ill in the doc
We gonna get to the doc
I gotta watch that
Cause you keep talking about it
I gotta watch it
I started to watch it last night
But I fell asleep
I watched part one
That ended with his wife saying
So what you want me to talk about
That was a cliffhanger
Yes
Okay
I gotta watch it
So
I have a
Small confession to make
To you guys
Okay
Come on.
I should confess.
Don't miss the opportunity.
Yo, Mo.
We taking over the pot game.
You producing now?
Come on, man.
Holy shit.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
Take us to the next level.
Potters beware.
Come on, man.
Part one or two.
Ooh.
Which one is better?
One.
Nah, go to two.
We're going to do two for this.
You're one of those, Rory.
One is better.
Go to two.
One is not better than two. Go to two. Well gonna do two for this You're one of those Rory One is better Go to two One is not better than two
Go to two
Well I'm playing two
Nah you playing with me right now
Shut up Usher
Nah you for real
Stop playing
Say swear
Put that on guard
Yo you know I'm in the studio chilling
Wait what?
Shut the fuck up.
Why are you saying say swear
when you were openly walking around the Beverly Center
as the biggest act in the world?
Right.
Hand in hand.
Wait, she found out?
Yes.
Oh, sure.
Yes.
Quick, two.
Ten minutes later.
You ever seen your ex-girl Standing with your next girl
Standing with the girl
That you fucking right now
Never been in that position
I mean shit can get weird
Unless they all down
Yo Moe was there
For a lot of my greatness
And that's what perturbs me
About our relationship
Is he never speaks to it
To your
What are you talking about
They was shouting me out
In a club
With my girl there
And you seen me Give it up tell them about me
tell them about how i used to be give it up honestly yeah that was slick you've never done
it no they've never done it never got shouted out of the club no not what i said not what i said
it made it hot dj made it hot. Yeah. DJs do make it hot.
That beat up where I told my girl I left.
Especially when you low low.
I said I left.
Yo, I'm heading out.
Man, it's so sleepy.
I am so.
You're just upstairs.
I am so exhausted right now.
I'm going home.
I never even used the word exhausted.
I am so fatigued.
She know that.
That's why she stayed.
Yo, that DJ said, yo, shout out to Joe, buddy.
Get his nipples
licked in the corner yeah he upstairs he upstairs in the cut oh i had the ralph lauren tucked under
the neck come on man look on your t-shirts look up it's funny look up oh you're tall you didn't
do it no you're right under the route didn't jump up. No, you're right. You're right. I'm going to pull the titties out. You had Shorty's head under the Ralph?
She couldn't jump up and suck on you.
Yeah, it looked like I had that bitch in the headlock.
Shorty came out and acted like I was fighting her.
Oh, she tracked it.
I have a girl.
Stop it.
Get off me.
Relax.
Relax.
I am in a relationship.
Ha, see?
I'm hitting my nipples.
Unlatch me.
Shorty identified her
she was like
no that's the porn star
I was like oh
I had no idea
who knew
I see her now
she looks trash
you seen her
the porn star or your ex
yeah both
yo I came up
you won what's wrong with him wait how you spell came Yo, I came up. You won?
What's wrong with him?
Wait, how do you spell came?
Porn stars don't age very well.
No, they don't.
I mean, they go through a lot.
They do.
A lot of physical activity.
A lot of dicks.
A lot of wear and tear.
Yeah, the wear and tear starts the show.
Cocaine and dicks really wear you out.
Yo, this is how
I know I'm getting a hold.
The name of that song is not, I came up.
Time to come up and hold
my own weight, defend my crown.
Got to lock it down.
I'm like, yo, I came up.
Cocaine,
what is that?
Thank you very much. Hold up, man.
Hold up.
Yo, Parks, you can swear I'm Hold up, man. Hold up. I thought you were going to say a big part of Nori, personally.
Yo, Park, you can swear I'm not a backpacker.
I'm going to fight.
We're going to fight.
Because for the last few weeks, you've been trying to call out my lack of backpacker. I mean.
Bad.
When I would not start the pod with MF Doom.
Park's just ready to slam all this shit shut.
Yeah.
I'm with him.
Park's a backpacker.
I was on Zoom in my crib, perturbed. Yeah. I'm with him. Parks. I was on Zoom
in my crib perturbed.
Rory couldn't believe it.
I could have shot you
over the playlist.
Right.
But I,
listen,
I just didn't want
to start sad.
That's understandable.
Artists that have passed,
we've started with their music.
Yes.
Okay.
That's also true.
Was I sad?
I don't know. That's your true Was I sad?
I don't know That's your own personal feelings
I started with Vaughn
When he passed
Because his music
The way he passed
Was so represented
In the album
I went through that
A lot with Pac
Like some niggas
That passed
Their music
And we had just
Vaughn's album
Came out the week before
He passed
That was just like
We were just talking about
On a pod
MF Dome I view
As more of a staple
I don't feel like His death had anything To do with his music i do think that was ill that park said in the year
of the mask yeah they take the masked man from us that was that fucked me up for a week but outside
of that no i was celebrating yeah when when the lyrics are are too true for me it hits me
differently i'll say that okay I'll say that. Okay.
I'll say that.
Understandable.
Like,
Triple X album after he died?
Did y'all listen to it?
I did.
Yeah.
I cried on vacation.
Yeah.
No,
it's a little different.
Yeah,
he was super talented,
man.
He was a kid.
Pac was a kid.
Big was a kid.
Juice WRLD was a kid.
Niggas is kids.
Obama was a kid.
Niggas is kids.
Not to be disrespectful, of course.
They were adult men.
Yeah.
But come on, man.
Come on, man.
All right, where was I at?
Where was I at?
Where was I at?
No, I did trip me out when I turned 24.
You said you had a confession.
You was putting on confessions.
You said you had a confession.
Got away from my confession.
Y'all blew it now.
We got three minutes.
Okay.
We'll come back.
You missed it.
You had to be there.
Okay.
Decided.
All right, I do have a few confessions to make if you're prepared for it.
Okay.
Oh, God.
Here we go.
Did we decide on part one or two?
Two.
Two.
We can do a poll if you want, but don't be that hipster.
But I am a hipster, Joe.
That's true.
But don't be that hipster.
It's two.
All right.
Get your shit off.
Come on.
Everything that I've been doing is all bad. That's that shit. Nigga, if you know it's all bad. If you know it's all alright get your shit off come on everything that I've been doing is all bad
that's that shit
nigga if you know it's all
if you know it's all bad
why you didn't
but if you know it's
no no by the way
it was all bad
in part one
and then in part two
he went hand in hand
knowing how bad it was
yeah yeah yeah
but you know why
I appreciate part two
cause part two
at least from what we heard
in the rumor report
is that
it was really happening
in part two
yeah
in part two yeah in part two
this was no longer a song
I'm telling the truth now
well I also heard
rumors that
a lot of that was
JD's experience
that he was going through
I heard that too
in his life
I heard that too
because he was a big part of
producing Confessions
and kind of spiced it up
with what
Usher was going on
with Chili
and that whole thing
but Usher was like
I didn't do that to Chili guys
everything
everything that I've been doing is all bad.
That's all JD.
Do JD under the bus.
That's that dirt bag.
Give me the next line.
I got chicks on the side with a crib and a ride.
I've been telling you so many lies.
Like, your self-awareness is all the way up.
Just stop.
Relax.
Easier said than done.
Just stop.
Nothing worse than getting in trouble with your girl for an affair that you had after you long stopped the affair.
Yeah.
I deaded that girl on my own a year and a half ago, and here I am in trouble today.
It happens.
That'd be the scariest part about self-awareness.
Yeah.
You can have that excuse of just not being self-aware and not knowing.
But when you know and then do it, then you really got to look at yourself like, that's
when they just look at you and be like, you're so stupid.
You're just stupid.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
And that hurts.
I know what's going on.
I'm just a scumbag.
Yeah, that too.
Yeah, but it's not really about me knowing what's going on with me.
It's about me knowing how much you know about what's going on.
Like, hey, when a chick says, yo, just tell me the truth.
And you only got one time, don't lie to me.
Because I already be knowing. I'm like, damn, what does she know, yo, just tell me the truth and you only got one time, don't lie to me because I already be knowing.
I'm like,
damn,
what does she know?
Yeah,
yeah.
Trey,
you start dancing around it.
Did she speak to her?
Yeah.
Shorty ain't violating me like that.
She didn't speak to the girl,
right?
She didn't know.
They be speaking.
Women speak.
Why men don't speak?
Ego.
Confession number one,
I don't know very much
about Bitcoin
and cryptocurrency.
Same. I'm in the same boat and there are and there are people like uh jay and silva that keeps hitting
me saying oh i've been telling you for years why weren't you on it four years ago nigga i had two
rocks to rub together to my name four years ago yeah and i don't like people that don't know how
to explain i'm saying this about silver but people that don't know how to explain shit correctly
asking why i didn't invest. I don't fucking know.
You didn't explain it to me.
You didn't sell.
You didn't sell it well.
It's true.
Now, confession number two.
I've been snooping around.
You are a snooper.
See, that's the thing.
They think because you don't know nothing about something that you won't snoop around.
I learned something from the Harlins.
You went in a phone?
You went in Bitcoin's phone?
So though I don't know much about Bitcoin,
I come in here every week and talk about
how amazing Cash App is as an app
and we have a partnership with them
because they're into some different ideologies
and just see the future in a different way
and are interested in doing deals that are different than some places are doing deals today.
Right. Like that's my commitment.
Like when I tell somebody that there's business being done somewhere for me, I've thoroughly vetted the situation.
I'm telling you that it's safe. You have you have to pay for a nigga as real as myself to come and tell you that some institution is safe, right?
But I don't know nothing about Bitcoin.
So I go and see, and in a moment of transparency, I'll share this with y'all.
When I went to see, I'll put my Hovindris cape on.
When I went to see Hovind to just talk, damn, I guess I did choose the 50 000 the dinner instead of the 50 000 bitcoin
i never understood why somebody would take the 50k instead of the dinner
really yes and that's the mistake that we'll get to it it depends on where you are so i go
you're right but that's the mistake a lot I think a majority of people should take the money.
Y'all are right.
But that's the mistake.
Some of us start out with no money to have, no money to find, no parents with money, no way to get money.
So it's a conversation we're not typically involved in.
That's where systematic oppression and all that shit comes in, right?
But what I didn't tell y'all, when I went to see Hov to talk about just life,
But what I didn't tell y'all, when I went to see Hov to talk about just life, in the time of the talk, he was talking to me like I was a member of the media.
Here's a point.
I don't like that.
That's not your choice to be talked to.
If someone, I'm not saying any human being, if perceived as the media.
Understood.
I am a member of the media,
so I guess people should be careful when they speak to me,
even though my integrity is through the roof.
You won't meet too many with this type of integrity.
It's safe when you speak to Joe.
I'm a vault.
I didn't disclose any of Maul's secrets.
Right?
I ain't telling none of that shit you like, right?
Look what's in your vault.
At the Maul vault.
Yeah, Maul had a keyhole in his door.
Sometimes I peep through
in the mornings.
Freaky ass nigga.
Fucking
freak,
freak nasty nigga.
Anyway,
but listen,
so when I'm speaking to him
and he's talking to me
like a member of the media,
cool for maybe five minutes,
and he say,
yo,
what's going on, man?
What's your future plans?
What's going on?
At this point,
I'm negotiating
with every DSP in the universe.
I'm on my high horse, nigga plans what's going on at this point i'm negotiating with every dsp in the universe i'm feeling i'm on my high horse nigga what's up
picture it because i shouldn't be sharing any of this picture it yeah what's up i thought
you were a vote hey they all want me that's what you told no i was quiet and drinking my water
but when he was like yo yo, what's your, what you gonna do?
And I said,
nothing.
I'm gonna chill out.
Which, by the way,
isn't a bad answer at all.
I ain't in a rush,
what I'm rushing to do something for?
Right.
He said, yeah,
but what's going on with you?
And I said,
I said, yeah, we gotta deal with Cash App, right?
And what I didn't tell y'all
in a moment of transparency is
when I said that,
as a fellow,
I could feel, I could feel different is when I said that as a fellow, I could feel
I could feel different energy when I said it.
Okay.
His eyes lit up.
He said, smart.
Just do it.
We'll talk later.
And then left.
Like that, man. Just disappeared into later. Hmm. And then left. Like Batman.
Just disappeared into dust.
No.
Hey.
Just evaporated.
Then he got up and headed to the exit.
I followed him.
He walked me out.
But I'm not done.
I'm not done, Sean.
He then went into,
very cryptic guy.
He then went into,
crypto guy.
Hmm. Yo, is there a booth around? Is there a booth around? Very cryptic guy. He then went into crypto guy.
Yo, is there a booth around?
Is there a booth somewhere? I don't know, man.
Oh, oh.
Crypto, she dip.
Okay, by the way.
I know.
By the way.
Hold on.
Hold on.
If Joe makes Flex's list, it's questionable because he stole it from Parks. Crypto, she dip low. Hold on. If Joe makes Flex's list,
it's his pen questionable
because he stole it from Parks.
Huh?
Crypto, she did blow my shit.
Go.
Huh?
Now I see how you gave it to him right there.
I didn't see it.
Yeah, I didn't think about the go.
You didn't see it?
No, I didn't see it.
I missed that one.
That's actually what home left.
Hit the club, salute the DJ.
My shit.
I was like, you know what?
Damn.
I know we talking about podcasting,
but what about this bar?
Every time I break into a new freestyle,
I never get support.
I never get support when I break into life.
You didn't wrap the whole brunch?
You didn't wrap the whole brunch?
I'm trying to give you an exclusive debut
of my shit go.
That's the name of it? My shit go?
My shit go. Just sit down.
Why you coming over here
Look at Basie jumping in
Look at Basie holding it down
Yo
Jump right in
No listen listen listen
I'm playing around
I'm playing around
But this is very serious
Yeah
Of course
These dudes that won't tell you
I believe in business
The thing about business They'll know what's coming And they won't tell you And believe in business the thing about business they'll know
what's coming and they won't tell you and that's how you capitalize
ta-da so when he said that
and escorted me out of his building
and on the way out he was talking
something about disrupting the banking system
I looked him in his eyes
you don't respect
somebody so much that you gotta look them in the eye
let me look at this nigga's head
let me see if you believe what you're saying you ever hear much that you've got to look them in the eye. Let me look at this nigga's head.
Let me see if you believe what you're saying.
You ever hear somebody that you think is a genius say something that is so out of whack that you believe it?
Yeah.
And if you're going to believe something like this, you believe it from the guy that made Reasonable Doubt.
Call me a dick writer.
Suck my dick.
Right?
So he says all of this.
He says all this.
Cool.
I leave.
Fine.
I respect.
He said that.
Then I'm seeing articles, right?
That Jack Dorsey, co-founder of Square or founder.
I don't know.
I just think there's somebody else there. But founder or co-founder of Square has invested all of this money into Bitcoin.
And then you start thinking of all the people
that told you years ago
Bitcoin would be something.
Yeah.
And then you start thinking
about financial literacy
and my fight
and our fight with Spotify
and how we just keep saying,
yo, we need a seat at a table.
We understand the value of things
and we want to participate
in ways that are outside the box
of salary, talent, hires and all this other shit.
Right. So when you go to the table and you start asking for stock and they look at you like you're crazy because you're a black dude.
What's the alternative? Start your own currency.
so I don't have to know anything about Bitcoin but when I saw Jack Dorsey
invested in all of this money
5% of his whatever
into Bitcoin
I said okay now that's a few
geniuses that are telling me this
so behind
you guys is back
I picked up the phone
and I made a phone call
and I said, hey.
You called Jack?
Anonymous person.
What's going on?
We need in.
We need.
We need to participate.
What you do to save on?
If Bitcoin is going on crazy, Rory, I'm such the man that whatever I'm about to say affects no one's pay at all.
I'm joking.
Relax.
Go ahead.
Let's celebrate.
Now, pick me up.
Give me your hand.
Come on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hold up.
Turn my drop up, bitch.
Hold up.
It's me.
The podfather's here.
God damn it.
So I called someone and begged.
Rest in peace, Combat Jack.
You know the vibes. Rest peace combat jack so i called someone and said yo is it possible that i can take a small
percentage of a deal in bitcoin and someone said yes round of applause right so i'm here to say that i have bitcoin for everyone i did it they said yes and i don't
know what it means but i'll take a pound yeah and now we have a start in the game. Pound is a currency.
In the booth.
I have 5,000 something.
Is it Bitcoin?
Saratoshi?
I don't know what you call this.
See, Satoshi.
Who knows what you call this?
Mall.
I love that restaurant.
5,000 Satoshi to you.
5,000 Satoshi to you.
What does that mean?
5,000 Satoshi to you. What does that mean? 5,000 Satoshi to you, Rory.
3,333 Satoshi to you, Erickson.
I love it.
Huh?
Of course you will.
I know what it means.
3,333 Satoshi to you, Savon.
Yeah, man.
What does that mean?
And Alex, 3,333 Satoshis to you.
Good man.
I want to thank each and every one of y'all for y'all contributions here.
Y'all know we couldn't have got this far without what all of us do.
No doubt.
And I don't know what this means.
So you just...
Either way, I like the intention.
He just thought he got some shit on.
5,000 niggas, what the fuck do that mean?
No, you owe 5,000.
I'm joking.
Who the fuck is Satoshi?
You get him, Satoshi.
You get him, Satoshi.
Look at how ignorant we are.
What the fuck is that, nigga?
What the fuck is Satoshi, nigga?
Who the fuck is Satoshi?
Who the fuck is that?
Let me do it.
Tell me 5,000 Satoshi.
I've never met them.
Yo, Rory is Googling Satoshi right now.
Come on.
What are you talking about?
What are you talking about?
What is Satoshi?
I don't know this nigga.
I love that restaurant.
Yo, Maul.
I wish I could tell you more.
I don't know what a Satoshi is.
So you just know I got 5,000?
I know that you got a bunch and we all got a bunch and it's a good start. So now I welcome you all to join the headache and anxiety attack that watching the stock market is.
Woo.
I couldn't wait.
No, it's something I've been meaning to do for a long time.
And outside of that, because we don't know what it means and I want to shout out to Cash App.
Thanks.
No doubt.
Smoke that.
Smoke that. Yeah. I'm with you. Listen,. Smoke that. Smoke that.
I'm with you.
Listen, I'm on ISO right now.
They ain't stop smiling.
They ain't stop smiling.
Huh?
Well, Alex understands it.
Yeah, we do not. I just want to know, does Satoshi give a
Well, let him come over here and tell us what the fuck.
Oh, Erickson understands it.
Oh, wait, wait. Alex, Erickson, y think we actually have a professional oh wait wait yeah Alex Erickson
y'all relax
y'all sit down
he doesn't even know
what he's talking about
with this shit
no that's true
so we do have
we do have a special guest
to help explain
what some of this shit
is to us
so I want to get there
this gentleman's name
is Anthony
pardon me
Anthony Pompilano
better known to the world
as Pomp
and this is the gentleman
that all of my rich friends told me to call
when I wanted to learn about Bitcoin after I had a little bit of Bitcoin.
So I'm excited about this, and I can't wait for it.
Hey, fuck it, let's just talk to the guy.
Bring him up, bring him up, bring him up.
You guys ready to do this?
I'm fucking ready to rock and roll, Pomp.
I'm super excited.
I'm honored to have you here.
All right, Parks has hit record.
So listen, we have a very, very, very, very, very special guest here today.
As you guys know, last week I attempted to talk to you about stocks and I sounded like a complete idiot.
But I want to responsibly use my platform and introduce Anthony Pompilano, better known as Pump.
Listen, Pump, I'm trying to do this new thing
where we change for the new year.
I'm trying to invite people
that are more educated
than us in certain areas.
Which is actually a lot of people.
Yeah, that's a lot of people.
We want to welcome you here to the
Joe Budden Podcast. Thank you for joining us.
How are you feeling?
I'm feeling great.
I don't know if I'm more educated,
but I got some opinions
so we can go through those.
But I think you guys are doing
just fine yourself.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
I respect that.
So listen to this.
Bitcoin.
It's going crazy out here.
And all of my friends
are coming to me
and telling me about
how crazy it's going,
just like they were
a whole bunch of years ago when I ignored them because it wasn't tangible money.
I told them, if I can't go in the gas station and buy my cigarettes,
then why are you wasting my time telling me about this?
Tell me how stupid I was.
And what Bitcoin is.
What did you say?
And what Bitcoin is. All right you say? And what Bitcoin is.
All right.
So first of all, Joe, you were pretty stupid for not listening,
but we'll get to that in a second.
Let's back up a little bit.
And to understand Bitcoin,
we got to understand the traditional financial system, right?
And so what a lot of people can wrap their heads around is
there's a complete separation.
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
But what people don't realize is the system is built to do that, right? Like get richer and the poor get poorer. But what people don't
realize is the system is built to do that, right? Like that is how the system is built. It is not a
bug in the system. It is a feature of the system. And what that basically means is it's not so much
a wealth disparity, it's an education disparity. And so what rich people know that poor people
don't know is that the dollar gets devalued. And all that means is
if I give you dollars and you sit them in your bank account and you put a hundred bucks in the
bank account, you come back at five years, that $100 buys you less goods and services than it did
when you first put it in there. So literally, although it says I put a hundred dollars in and
a hundred dollars is still sitting there, the $100 buys less because the price of cars and houses and food
and all this other shit went up in value. So literally now it takes me more dollars to buy
the same stuff than it did five years ago. So what rich people do is they know this. They're
like, shit, I'm not going to just hold on to this dollar that keeps losing value over time.
I'm going to invest it or I'm going to buy things with it. So what they do is they go and they say, rather than hold dollars, I'm going to buy real estate. I'm going to buy stocks. I'm going to invest it or I'm going to buy things with it. So what they do is they go and they say, rather than hold dollars, I'm going to buy real estate.
I'm going to buy stocks.
I'm going to buy gold and buy Bitcoin, buy all these investable assets.
And so when you look at the numbers, the bottom 45 percent of Americans don't own a single investable asset.
They own no investments.
They just have cash and they live paycheck to paycheck.
So what happens is when the government right now during the pandemic, all this stuff,
they're like, hey, we're going to come save you.
I'm going to give you guys a stimulus check.
I'm going to print all this money.
I'm going to do all this.
What they're actually doing is they're devaluing the dollar.
So they'll give you $2,000 right now,
but they're actually making those dollars worth
less and less over time.
So all Bitcoin does is say, you don't got to be a genius.
You can take your dollars,
convert them to Bitcoin.
And over a long period of time,
the Bitcoin is going to go up
in US dollar value.
That's it.
It's a different currency
that doesn't get devalued away.
But Pomp, well, first of all,
I feel like a jackass
because my hit song was Pump It Up
and your name is Pomp
and I haven't done Pomp, Pomp, Pomp,
Pomp, Pomp, Pomp, Pomp, Pomp It Up. I didn't do that. I'm sorry, Pomp. was pump it up and your name is pump and i haven't done pump pump pump pump pump pump pump pump it
up i didn't do that i'm sorry i'm sorry let's put an edit sorry it's fine listen listen you saw do
you see everybody on twitter they said you you misspelled my name when you made the song
and that's why i love twitter but pump the bank told me that my money would collect interest when
it's in there and that's why i should put it there. Yeah. So your money does collect interest.
But if you look at what the bank does, right, when you put your dollars into the banks, let's say I don't want to use the name of any banks, but you put your money into the bank.
They say, cool, it's our money now. I'll give you an IOU. So you put one hundred dollars and they say, I owe you one hundred dollars.
They take your one hundred bucks and they go and they lend it out on the back end.
They're lending it to people and they're earning money on that loan.
So let's say that they maybe earn 200 basis points or 2% on your $100.
They then turn around and say, cool, we'll give you a little tiny bit of that.
So we make $2, but we'll pay you $0.03 or $0. cents of the money that we earned. So the bank makes all
the money and they pay you only three or five basis points. Oh, like Spotify. So even though
they're paying. So just like the, I'm not getting involved in all that. No, no, please don't.
Please don't. That's my bad. I love Spotify. Please turn my volume up on Spotify. I love Spotify. I love iTunes too.
Now listen, when you look at what the actual bank is doing is they're paying you a little
bit of interest, but they're not paying you enough interest to beat inflation.
So inflation is like 2%. So if the bank doesn't pay you at least 2%,
even though you're earning a little bit of interest, you're still losing purchasing power.
So the whole idea here is one, you've got a position to just tell people like, hey, if you put 100% of your wealth,
all of the money you have in dollars and sit it in your bank account, the financial system is
fucking you. Like you are getting fucked by the banks, you're getting fucked by the central bank,
and you are literally becoming poor over time by saving. Savers get screwed and investors win. That is the most core
thing to personal finance is you have to invest money in order to protect your wealth because
the dollar is getting devalued over time. Okay. So what is Bitcoin's incentive for us to invest
in them? Of course, I know what the banks are doing with our money, but what is Bitcoin doing
with it? All right. So the reason why all that happens with the dollar is because they keep creating more of the dollar. They're devaluing it by
creating more and more dollars. Bitcoin is a digital currency. So it's just like the dollars
of currency. This is a digital currency, but it is decentralized, meaning nobody owns it.
Nobody controls it. There's no individual, there's no organization, there's no government,
owns it. Nobody controls it. There's no individual. There's no organization. There's no government.
Nobody controls it. And when nobody controls it, the only way to make a change to it is if more than 51% of people agree to make the change. So remember, the legacy system, last year,
we thought we all knew the rules. But then all of a sudden, central bankers and elected officials
like, nah, we're going to change the rules. We don't care what you guys think. We're going to
change the rules because we think we know what's best for
you. And so in that system, we get screwed as individual citizens. But in this new system,
nobody can change the rules. The rules are written publicly so everyone can see them
and nobody can change them. And so when you have a decentralized digital currency,
you can now save in that currency. And because they can't create
more than 21 million Bitcoin, actually what happens is when demand increases and you have
a fixed supply, it's like real estate. If there's a hot area in town and there's only so much real
estate and it's hot, what happens? The prices go up. Same thing in Bitcoin is there's only 21
million. And so what people are doing is they're using Bitcoin as a savings technology. I just keep saving my wealth in Bitcoin. They're not
creating more of it. So over time, it'll appreciate in price and it'll appreciate in purchasing power.
So it's 180 degree difference than what they're doing with the dollar.
So why isn't the inventor of Bitcoin the owner? Who made up Bitcoin and why don't they own it?
Why did they freely give it away? Yeah. So the whole idea of kind of the world that we live in
today is we've lived in a world where we basically celebritized founders and we really, really love
centralized institutions. So Facebook and Instagram and Google and Twitter and all these companies,
they all the value accrued to them and they had a leader at the top. So it's a kind of a hierarchical
structure and those companies get all the power. Well, we're figuring out like maybe we shouldn't
live in a world where one dude can make the decisions for literally hundreds of millions
of people, right? One company shouldn't accrue all that value. So what Satoshi Nakamoto,
which is a pseudonymous person or group, we don't know who it is, which is part of the.
I don't know what pseudonymous means. Basically means that they use a burner account.
Right. It's the best way to think about it. It's like a burner account for real life.
They use a name, but nobody knows who's behind it. Got it.
And so the reason why that's valuable is right now when the government's mad at Mark Zuckeruckerberg they're like yo mark you better come in front of congress and testify or if you don't do that we're
going to sanction you you know we're going to come after your company we're going to regulate you
we'll put you in jail it's crazy shit with this they can't they don't know who it is so they can't
call anybody in front of congress they can't arrest anybody the other thing is if the government got
mad at amazon or facebook or whatever they'd be like hey we're going to come to your headquarters and we're going to say, if you don't shut down your company, you're in trouble.
They can't do that with Bitcoin because it's decentralized. So when the person that or a
group that created it, put it out into the world, they put a financial incentive. They said, hey,
if you start running this software and more and more people do it across the world, they're not
going to come to every single person's house and be like, yo, Joe, you got to shut down your computer.
You can't have this Bitcoin software running anymore.
Why not?
There's just too many people.
Wait, wait, no, no.
Let me offer some pushback, Pom.
Sorry, buddy.
And this is where I didn't invest.
So you're telling me that the inventor of Bitcoin is a fucking myth?
Yeah.
He's an urban legend.
We've never seen him.
Nobody's met him.
Can't you see how that could offer some reservation to people when you're talking about such a grandiose idea?
So let me let me explain this.
Right.
When you think of that, you're thinking of who the inventor is.
The inventor said, it doesn't matter who I am.
I'm going to post all the instructions and the rules to this system.
I'm going to post it online.
So every single person can read through it.
They can verify what's here.
And I will let you, including Joe Budden and everybody else, you all have a say in what happens to this system.
So you now own part of the system.
But we all have to agree to change anything in the system.
So the inventor just says, go ahead.
I was going to say, how do we know he won't change his mind?
Yeah.
Or the system could conveniently crash.
He can't because here's the beauty.
It's being super non-egotistical, right?
Why do the founders of these companies still retain control?
It's because they think that they understand it better.
And in many cases, they do understand the system better than most people.
They want control.
When it comes to Satoshi Nakamoto, they said, look, I'm no different than all of you.
I'm just one person out of billions in the world.
We're all going to do this together.
And then the way that the code's written is they can't come in and make any changes without
everybody agreeing. So in a decentralized world world basically what they do is they give up
control in the beginning intentionally to ensure that there's security and defensibility in the
system okay so now this thing's 700 billion dollars like there's literally 100 plus million
people using this thing and nobody knows who created it i want want to shout out to Volvo and I'd like to read you something
that I read recently.
All right.
This gentleman's name is Niels Bohlen
and it says Niels Bohlen, an engineer at Volvo,
invented the three-point seat belt in 1959.
The 1950s were a time when pilots
and racing drivers wore harnesses, but seat belts, where
they were fitted in cars, took the form of a rudimentary two-point waist restraint.
In crashes, sometimes these did more harm than good.
The reason the three-point seat belt is so widely adopted is actually because Volvo opened
up the patent so that any car manufacturer could use it in their design.
They decided that the invention was so significant that it had more value as a free life saving tool than something to profit from.
Is that similar to what's going on here?
You're a poet and you don't even know it. Yes, absolutely.
You're a poet and you don't even know it.
Yes, absolutely.
If you think about what ends up happening around innovation is if you give it to the world and everyone works on it together, it will drastically accelerate the pace of innovation.
And so that's what's happening here is where that seatbelt ended up being a life-saving technology in terms of literally preserving people's lives.
Bitcoin is a financial life saving technology. It is preserving your financial health by protecting your purchasing power so that
central banks cannot devalue it away. It is literally going to change people's lives because
it prevents the rich from getting richer and the poor from getting poor. Now, Pomp, i'm a cynic and a skeptic so when i'm listening to you i hear
i hear the potential for totally derailing the banking infrastructure as we know it which i'm
in total support of by the way but as a cynic i can't see how the government would allow that
i don't see it or What is stopping them from passing
some type of legislation
that bans all of crypto
if they're not participating in a way?
Like they did with fucking weed.
Like we've seen them do time and time again.
No, am I off here?
Listen, you're right.
But here's what I would say.
I'm going to invest all my money in this shit
and then one day the government come up and say,
you know what? Nah, it's dead. And then I'm fucked.
Nah, because you got to remember, one, Wall Street is benefiting from this.
Fidelity, Guggenheim, Paul Tudor Jones, all these traders, all these banks, they're all getting in the game.
They ain't going to let everyone get rich and they're going to sit by and watch it happen.
Right. They're definitely going to get in the game. They're doing that now. And that's why the price has been running so much.
But the second thing is that there's this global kind of game theory playing out, which means that
the United States comes out and says, you know what? Nah, screw this. We're not going to let
you guys do this. We're going to ban it. Right. They could they could do that. They could try.
One, they can't shut the network down because it's decentralized. They can't actually stop it.
What they could say, though, is if you hold Bitcoin, I'm going to throw you in jail.
What that'll do is Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, all these other countries around the world.
They're going to be like, cool, the U.S. doesn't want to use this system.
Let's all get together and we're going to use this system and we're going to get off the U.S. dollar.
We're not going to use the dollar anymore. And so that risk to the United States is way greater than people starting to adopt
Bitcoin, right? And so now what we've got is we literally have politicians in Congress and the
Senate who are running around saying, we should be embracing this. We shouldn't be fighting it.
This is a technology innovation. And if America wants to remain the number one innovation country in the
world, we got to embrace this stuff because if we fight it, we're just going to lose and some
other country is going to win because they embraced it. So I think that's where the U.S.
kind of gets caught, where they're damned if they do and they're damned if they don't.
Here's something that I read recently about Square and Jack Dorsey is a good friend of mine.
That's a lie, but I really look up to him.
I was like, well, I didn't know that about you.
You left that out of our friendship.
He's a real inspiration to me
and I really admire how he moves out here.
So he's one of the gentlemen that I look to
for just phenomenal behavior, right?
If you tweeted with him,
then you can say that you're best friends.
Like he don't even have to respond to the tweet.
If you just tweet at him, then you're basically best friends.
I don't know if I've ever tweeted at Jack.
I'm going to tweet him tonight.
I'm going to tweet Jack tonight.
Jack, we love you over here, buddy.
But listen to this.
So I read Square buys 50 million in Bitcoin as part of a larger investment in cryptocurrency.
I believe Jack Dorsey to be a genius.
What the fuck is he up to?
Honestly, tell me.
So if you go back.
Do you know?
So first of all, Jack.
Yeah, listen, Jack is a genius.
Here's what you got to know about Jack Dorsey, right?
Everyone is looking at him saying he runs Twitter and he runs Square.
This man is one of the greatest entrepreneurs that we have in our lifetime.
He's built two multi-billion dollar companies.
Big facts.
And the best part?
Big facts.
Guess what's in his Twitter bio?
There's one word in his Twitter bio.
Bitcoin.
God, oh.
That's it.
Nah.
Bitcoin.
Bitcoin.
That's it.
And the reason is because he understands how powerful this technology is, right?
Bitcoin is probably going to become the global reserve currency in the future.
Every country, everyone's going to use it.
So what he did with Square was he said,
look, individuals were choosing
to take part of their wealth, right?
Part of the money in the bank and say,
I got some cash in US dollars.
I'm going to put some of it in Bitcoin
to protect myself in case something bad happens to dollars.
And so once companies or once individuals started to do
that, then Wall Street firms started to do it. So now you see, you know, Fidelity and JP Morgan,
all these guys all started to play the game. Now we're starting to see companies do it. So
there's this company called MicroStrategy. This guy, Michael Saylor, is an absolute gangster.
He literally took 85% of his balance sheet, which he had half a billion dollars in cash.
And he said said screw it and
he put it all on bitcoin yes then he raised 600 million dollars in debt and he put all that in
bitcoin too so put over a billion dollars in bitcoin and just sat it on his balance sheet
and then jack came out uh with square and he said cool we're gonna start with one percent we're gonna
put about 50 million dollars in bitcoin we're gonna sit it on our balance sheet using a reserve
asset the reason why they're doing that is because the monetary policy all that
means is the central bankers are doing all kinds of funny business trying to screw up the dollar
and so these guys want to protect themselves eventually everyone's going to do it Elon Musk
going to do it with Tesla all the way down the line every company well that was a couple a few
of my next questions you're killing this shit right now pom by the way pump pump pump pump all right listen listen but does jack doing that ensure that the bitcoin never goes below a certain point
no he doesn't but remember if you ever take like an economics 101 course just supply and demand
right i dropped out with your i dropped out well listen ready the best part. Supply and demand applies to every market.
Whether you're talking about illegal drugs, music, real estate, or Bitcoin, literally
supply and demand applies to every market.
And so when you think about it is when you have fixed supply, right?
Whether it's real estate or weed, if there's a fixed supply of something and demand continues
to increase, if you're a capitalist, what do you do?
You raise prices, right? Like that's it. If there's only so much weed for a neighborhood and there's a lot
more people that want it today than yesterday, you raise prices. If there's a school and they've got
a line out the door for people to go to their college and they know that line's not going to
go away, they raise prices, right? They only got so many seats. Same thing with Bitcoin is that
there's a fixed supply. There's only 21 million Bitcoin. And now more and more people are showing up saying, I want this Bitcoin.
But because it protects your purchasing power, the Bitcoiners don't want to sell. I'll never
sell my Bitcoin. I don't want to sell. I don't care what the US dollar price is. I'm not selling
my Bitcoin. And so when Goldman Sachs or JP Morgan, whoever shows up and says, give me your
Bitcoin. And they say, I'll get you 20,000, 25,000 for000, $40,000. I don't care. I'm not selling it.
But somebody will. And so they're just going to keep bidding higher and higher and higher and
higher over time. And the US dollar price is going to go up. But if you look at the people
who are holding it, they believe that this is a scarce asset. And so they're going to hold it
forever. What about other cryptos?
I know Bitcoin is the big name, but what's stopping other people from making their own crypto?
Because I saw that happen a couple of years ago with the first Bitcoin craze.
What happened?
How does that work?
But how does Bitcoin compare to all of the other cryptos?
So just think of it as they're all vying for different things, right? So if you think in
the traditional financial system, you basically have got stocks, you got bonds, you got currencies,
you got commodities. There's four types of assets. Bitcoin is the winner for a cryptocurrency. It's
trying to be a store of value and a medium of exchange. And a currency really is just a belief
system. It's a religion, right? Why do we all trust the dollar? If I give you this green piece
of paper, why do you take it? You and I both believe it has value. There ain't shit back in it
other than a bunch of guys with guns that have a US flag on their arm. That's it. But we all believe
that it has value and therefore we'll trade it back and forth. Bitcoin is now becoming the same
thing. We believe it has value. Therefore, people are willing to exchange it for goods and services.
There's other types of crypto assets, but they're
not trying to be a currency. They may try to be a commodity, a stock, like, you know, other stuff.
But Bitcoin is the king when it comes to the cryptocurrency bucket. And I don't think anyone's
going to unseat it because it's a network effect, right? Once everyone starts using it, you're not
just going to all leave to go use a different one because then there's nobody using the new one.
Like you're incentivized to stay on the existing one.
And so now it's reached that kind of escape velocity.
Like it's going to be the king for a very, very long time.
We've seen in sports, we've seen a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers take some of his contract in Bitcoin.
I want to say that was Spencer Dinwiddie in the NBA that did the same.
I think we spoke about that here. Let's pretend that I took a portion of one of my deals
in Bitcoin. How conservative or non-conservative should I be in that regard? And how stupid would
I be to do that?
And what are some of the advantages that come along?
Why are people starting to do that?
So let me ask you three questions so I can answer it well.
How old are you?
40.
All right.
How many streams of income you think you got?
More than 10.
All right.
And what would you say your risk tolerance is right now super risk taker or not
very risk-taking at all i love a risk i love you should take a hundred percent you should take a
hundred percent of your deal in bitcoin and hold it don't sell it and you will be an absolute
gangster 10 years from now so what can you what can you what can you currently buy with Bitcoin? Wait. This nigga said take 100% of the deal in Bitcoin.
Oh, you believe, believe, believe.
You want to know how much of my net worth is?
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
But you also got money.
Don't do that.
You want to know how much of my net worth I put in Bitcoin?
Yes.
100?
Yes.
Over 95%.
Well.
But what can you currently buy? bitcoin and how can you you can't use it now think of it this way right is you don't want to purchase
things with bitcoin in the sense of it protects your purchasing power right why do people buy
real estate you ever hear your parents or somebody, you know, right? Some rich person is like real estate always goes up. It's a fixed supply. And as long as more
and more people want real estate, the price is going to go up. Bitcoin is no different. It's a
fixed supply. And so if the price is going to continue to go up over time, you don't want to
spend it today, right? You guys probably heard the story. There's this guy who spent 10,000 Bitcoin
on two pizzas back in like 2010. And now it's like, could buy like seven jets.
Like, hey, you probably shouldn't have spent the Bitcoin, right?
So it's the same thing here is the Bitcoin that you buy, right?
I say that you should take 100% of the deal, right?
Because you've got multiple streams of income.
So you're going to get paid in cash and other deals.
And you've got a high risk tolerance.
That's not for everybody.
Other people, maybe they should put one, two, three, four,
5% of their net worth into Bitcoin. And you don't have to buy a full
Bitcoin. A full Bitcoin is $38,000 right now. You can literally buy $5 of Bitcoin or $10 of Bitcoin.
So you go on something like Cash App or one of these platforms-
Where you only need $1 to get in the game. $1. That was a big misconception for me a long time
ago. I thought you needed a little more money to get in this game. You can. That was a big misconception for me a long time ago. I thought you needed
a little more money
to get in this game.
You can start this
with a dollar on cash.
Yeah, you could literally say,
yo, every two weeks
I get my paycheck,
I'm going to take 20 bucks.
I'm going to put it in Bitcoin.
And I'm just going to
every time I get my paycheck,
I'm going to put $20.
I'm a dollar cost average.
I don't care what the price is.
Every two weeks,
I'm putting 20 bucks in
and I'm just going to
accumulate Bitcoin over time.
Think of it like a savings account because the difference here is rather than saving in dollars and having it lose money in the bank, you're saving in an asset that is protected from being devalued away.
And so literally you can be a saver again and you can actually build wealth.
Right. Think of people in India and a lot of these other cultures.
What do they do? They save their family wealth in gold and in jewelry. In America, the richest
families, they put it in real estate and then they hand that shit down from generation to generation.
You can't do that with dollars. If I put money in the bank today and I give it to my kid in 30 years,
he's literally going to be broke. And it don't matter how much money I put in the bank,
because it's going to lose 90% of its power with bitcoin you can literally just save in bitcoin
hold it you can hand it to your kids and it's going to be worth more than it is today because
it protects your purchasing power and it's a fixed supply asset so if you literally said
i'm gonna take 100 of my deal in bitcoin and everything else you don't buy bitcoin with
it'll pop off because you're gonna literally hand it to your kids one day
and it's going to be worth more money
than it is today.
I have a question for you
and Rory will follow right up.
So speak to some of the rumors
I'm hearing about how Bitcoin
could go as high as $100,000 per coin this year.
Some say $200,000.
I won't reach for the stars,
but like, is that feasible?
So back in 2019, I wrote a thing publicly and I said,
it's going to hit $100,000 by 2021. I haven't changed that. I think it's absolutely going to
hit that, may even go higher than that. And the whole reason is the government and the Federal
Reserve, they're printing all this money and they're forcing people to go find what's called
an inflation hedge asset. They're saying, if you hold dollars, you're going to lose. You got to go invest.
So real estate, precious metals, and Bitcoin are all going up, stocks going up, et cetera.
Got it. At the same time that they force everyone to go find Bitcoin,
the Bitcoin that came into the market every day went from 1800 last year to 900. So it was a 50%
drop in the daily incoming supply of Bitcoin. At the same
time, everyone wants Bitcoin. So the price exploded, went up 400%. And so that's only
going to continue going into this year. I think $100,000 for sure it hits. The crazy part though
is the gold market cap is only $10 trillion, right? 10 trillion for all the gold in the world.
Bitcoin is a 10x improvement on gold.
It is 10 times better from a technology standpoint. But if Bitcoin's market cap,
only 2x is gold, that's $20 trillion. That puts Bitcoin at about a million dollars a coin.
It's not going to be a straight line. We're not going from $40,000 to a million dollars. There's
going to be lots of volatility. It's going to go up a lot it's gonna drop 30 40 50 percent but it's gonna hit a million dollars at some point in the future
got it right so so then why did it drop from 20 000 to 5 000 in recent and is that tied to
election years it's not so much tied to like the political process the way to think about this is
it's a network so let's say that we all created a mobile app together,
right?
And we had no users.
And then we said,
all right,
we got to run a marketing campaign to get people to come use our app.
And a hundred people sign up in that marketing campaign.
And they start using the product.
And then 30 of them leave.
They're like,
man,
this is whack.
I don't want to use the mobile app anymore.
We would have gained 70 new users.
We have to run another marketing campaign,
right?
Another a hundred people come in,
30 of them leave after some time, we gained another 70. So now we got 140 people. And so
every time we run a marketing campaign, we get a bunch of users, some of them leave, but we still
have a net higher basis of users. And so we keep doing this over and over again. That's how you
build your user base. Same thing with Bitcoin is there was this big kind of bull market, a bunch
of people come in, then some people sell and they leave, but there's still a net gain every time
this happens. And so when we went from 20,000 and it dropped down to 3000, that was still higher
than the previous high. So basically what you're seeing is you're just constantly getting this kind
of network effect growth. And so if you go back, Bitcoin started out, it was pennies. And it's now at almost $40,000. And it's probably going to go
up to 100 or more, and then it'll drop again. But when it drops, it's not going to drop back to 10
or $20,000. Maybe it drops to 50 or $60,000. Right? And then it goes and it runs up again.
And that's how network effects grow. And so we've seen technology companies do this before.
We've just never seen money do this where it's got a price ticker tied to it on a daily basis.
That's where people see the volatility.
I'm sold.
I'm done with them.
I'm sold.
I'm fine.
Are you going to take 100% of your deal in Bitcoin?
No.
100% no.
But a large portion of not only now but future deals and and that's why
you know i fuck with people pumped that think outside of the box and to really grasp this i
guess i have to really think outside of the box there'll come a time where there'll be deals to
be done where all 100 of the deal will
go into it and i won't look at it and it'll just be up and down and out that's a luxury that i will
be able to afford but even this is a privileged conversation between us a lot of my people well
not now because you can invest a dollar and get something done but the mentality pump i'm saying
is we always feel like damn i'm rubbing two rocks together i don't have time to even think about stuff i don't have money to put to stop my family don't know about stuff where can
i learn where can i get the info so i'm really appreciative that you stopped here because last
week like the world is changing the world is changing and bam you're even going to change
with it or be left behind so i want to know about this stuff thank you i hate the banks too
fuck them yeah no this
was great you know what you know what we say we say long bitcoin short the bankers i like it okay
i like that this guy i can see why he's wealthy i have one one one quick quick quick question pump
um i have tax problems so naturally i think about the irs a lot if i'm one of the stupid people that
sell my bitcoin and make a profit off of it,
is that something the government can tax me on? Are you guys that protected or is this still
regulated tax-wise? Great question, Rory. Great question. Yeah. So basically everything that
happens in the legacy financial system still applies to Bitcoin. So if you do illegal shit
with Bitcoin, you're getting in trouble or going to jail. Don't do illegal shit with Bitcoin. Two is if you buy Bitcoin, it goes up and you sell it for a profit, you got to pay taxes on
the profit. The other thing with Bitcoin is when you spend it, if you bought it and it was worth
$1,000 and now when you go to spend it, it's worth $1,500, they actually consider that you're
selling it and they'll tax you on that $500 gain as well. So there's almost a penalty, a tax penalty when you spend your Bitcoin. So you shouldn't spend
it. Just buy it and hold it for a long period of time and you'll be protected. But don't do
illegal shit with it and you still got to pay your taxes on it and they can figure it out.
So don't try to get around it or be smart because you're just going to get yourself in trouble.
Gotcha. All right. I'm clear, dude. Does anyone else have-
Very, very informative. Thank you so much. I learned a lot.
Yo, Pomp, I could talk to you for hours, man. You just seem like a bevy of information as it
pertains to this stuff. The only thing that matters is people just got to remember,
if you're sitting with 100% of the money you got in cash, you're literally getting screwed.
Get invested. It doesn't matter what you invest in, just get started. Whether it's stocks,
bonds, real estate, Bitcoin, it doesn't matter. Just get invested and you'll have a better shot at actually protecting your wealth. So I appreciate you guys giving me the time. This is awesome.
Appreciate you.
Thank you, man. Let me hit the round of applause.
And Pop, blink twice if you're the founder.
Are you? Are you? Are you?
Hey, Pop.
Thank you, man.
Thank you.
We appreciate it.
Hey, if we need to talk to you again, can we give you a ring?
Yeah, of course.
Hey!
Thank you, Pop.
We appreciate it, man.
All right. Sounds good, guys.
Have a great day.
You too, Pop.
Hey!
I'm going to buy some bitcoin god damn it pop with the battery in my back nah me too it was destined you came to get it wrong with a day that was awesome that was great
y'all know parks only fix the sound supreme i got mad albums up yeah that's not true you
got to be the creator of wu-tang get his attention. Mad albums where the snare is low.
Nah.
Yo, that was phenomenal.
It was.
I really enjoyed that.
Yeah, very, very informative.
Very informative.
I feel stupid,
but now I feel enlightened.
Well, last week,
we felt we were really stupid.
And was that digestible?
Yeah.
I understood what he was saying.
So Bitcoin is basically like
buying art and collecting wine
and things like that.
That's one way to look at it.
Things that don't devalue the way money does.
Well, according to him, it might devalue, but who cares?
Because it's going up.
To me, it's kind of like in Monopoly
when you might get in a jam and you pass
all your properties over to your partner to hold
just in case.
I see what you did there.
That's kind of Bitcoin to me.
From what he explained.
He did a really great, a really fine job of explaining that to me.
I did mean to ask him about, damn, what was that that Silva was telling me about?
Oh, the NFT?
NFT.
Yeah, Silva knows all that shit.
Silva said he's going to come kick it with us about that.
Silva and I have three combos, and he's very informed.
Silva should come in here.
I need to come here and have him get some photos.
How do y'all feel about that bag?
I don't know if y'all could feel where I'm trying to take the culture this year,
but I'm trying to just represent us a bit differently
and really uphold our responsibility with our platform
to what good we can do in the in the world like do y'all do y'all send something out a little bit
yeah or no that you're trying to uplift the world like i think that financial literacy lesson was
really important yeah oh yeah i mean that was great to me that was a like i said he made it
to where you get it.
You understand it because plenty of people have tried to tell me about Bitcoin before.
But the way he broke it down and things he compared it to so that we can understand it, which is a perfect way of putting it.
And now I totally get it. I understand exactly what Bitcoin is now.
I was so ignorant. I really thought cryptocurrency in general was just, all right, this is currency.
I can buy shit on the internet
and trade shit on the internet only.
Yeah,
I thought it was money.
That's what I thought it was.
I thought it was money,
money,
money,
money,
money,
shazam.
Basically,
yeah.
It kind of is money,
shazam.
Put your money over here.
Hold this song over here.
Look what happens.
Let me tell you what it's doing.
Your money,
we're idiots here.
Yeah. We're idiots here. But that was good. But that Money Show, we had idiots here. Yeah.
We had idiots here.
But that was good.
But that's why we need
the smart people to come
to school us.
That was good.
Shout out to Pump, man.
Yeah, that was great.
He tweeted me the other night
and like 500 tech dudes
got in my Twitter
just talking in language
I didn't understand.
I was like,
all right, we're going to talk.
Yeah.
This seems important.
Yeah, you can explain it to me.
All right,
on to more important news.
Maul.
Yes.
Did I tell you how Rory Farrell put me in a bit of a jam?
I don't ever use my full government.
No.
You didn't tell me that.
Rory wouldn't do such a thing.
He did.
I get you out of jams.
Rory said that we should interview Drake before his album comes out.
And that I needed to be the person to reach out and discuss it no but he said he was he would he would come kick you believe what superstars say
he said he wasn't gonna respond he said we do a song together too
well you were tired hey said he would do the hook in the bridge yeah I thought I had a hit
you were tired I hit dark night hey he didn't say when. That's who you were.
Why are you touching?
Just don't touch me.
Stop, man.
Don't.
I didn't say anything.
You did say something.
I didn't say one word.
Just don't say it again.
Okay, I'm sorry.
Nah, but you killed the hook.
We was out of here, I thought.
That's what you thought?
Nah, I think using the you and Amani reference was better than using the drink.
Settle for a little Tori on Flex Yeah yeah yeah
That's all
That's all
Like
While he was beefing with him
Yeah yeah
Don't do that
Don't say it was like
It was like
Flex shit like that
I like Flex a lot
Yeah actually
So Rory told me
I need to hit Drake for an interview
I think it makes sense
Cause I don't think
He's gonna do a lot of press
And I think it would make sense
For him to do that
One press shit with us
My brain said
That that was the goofiest
Doofiest idea in the universe
And when stars
Want to talk to you
They'll reach out
But then when I thought
That to myself
You know what else
I thought of
I thought of you
In my head saying
Yo man just hit Wayne
And I looked at you
The same way like
I'm not hitting a little Wayne
Yeah
Hit him
Why not
And I hit Wayne
And he did it.
Yeah, there you go.
Smooth, too.
Yeah.
Free of charge.
Close mouth still get fed, Joe.
Hey, he didn't even do that A-list celebrity shit they do,
where they do the verse and then don't clear it for you.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
He cleared it.
Hey, even when his team gave me resistance, he hit him.
Nah, don't do that.
Man, go Wayne.
No.
Thank you, Wayne.
The best is when artists would ask for cash
after the verse when they leave
and then not clear the record.
It's not even like you got to send the money after.
I got to pay for my time, yeah.
I got to start shouting niggas out that did me a solid, man.
When I brought the Wayne verse to E1,
woo!
Okay, Joe.
You downloaded this off YouTube.
Is this an unreleased verse?
They were like, well, will he do the vid? Nigga, I don't know.
Press this shit up.
We out.
Hey.
We're part of a great screen.
Send that to Flex.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fail.
Never doing a vid for this.
Right.
Right?
That's a topic that our listenership won't understand.
But that will he do the vid question.
Yeah, that was a big deal.
Fail.
That's major.
You know how hard it was to get this feature?
Now you want me to ask him
for more?
Yeah.
To come into a video?
Hey, shout out to Wayne.
Wayne was like,
I'll do the vid.
I don't want to be around Joe.
We was like, all right.
Hold this great tree, fam.
Go wherever you want.
Go to his house.
Special shout out
to the artists that say,
yo, we got to do the vid too
because that's a big one.
There's some artists that would be excited to do the vid. But that's back to you and
more, well, not you and Rory believe in artists when they say things. That's just artists
talking, yo, we got to drop the vid for that one.
No, I'm talking about the ones that actually do. Oh, yeah.
Okay. That's different. I don't care about the ones that say they're going to do it.
Why may St. do the horse and carriage video?
He spoke about that on some interview.
He addressed that.
That nigga on Clubhouse just talking away.
Why weren't you in the horse and carriage?
Ask him on Clubhouse.
Hey, wasn't it a remix?
You ain't do none of the vids.
Ask him on Clubhouse.
No, I'm not doing that.
Why?
You're right.
Why you do the horse and carriage video?
I'm not doing that.
What was I just talking about?
Oh, I'm shouting out the people that looked out.
Shout out to Wayne.
Shout out to Game.
Okay.
Forgot about,
ooh.
Even,
yo, we are such great
frenemies.
You and Game?
That is my man enemy.
Those are underrated.
Yo, yo.
Those are underrated.
Come on, man.
No, that's a good one.
No, that's my main enemy right there.
That's my main nigga enemy.
When you have enemies where you just have that understanding,
you can appreciate that.
Absolutely.
See him in the supermarket, he ain't going to throw the fruit at you.
Yo, man, come on.
We out here.
And after a certain age, I just kind of look at each other like,
man, we're not doing this no more.
I'm just 45, my nigga.
Joe and Game in the produce section.
Oh, you shop here too?
Panettas everywhere.
Hey, Game was at the peak of his career.
Peak, high, hot, fish grease, back away from the stove hot is what I'm saying.
And I, dark, cold, not hot, no budget, no record.
Shut the fuck up.
No label.
No radio. No, you had an algorithm. No single. You had an algorithm. hot no budget no record shut the fuck up no label no radio no single algorithms no microphones amalgorithms they held you down with the wait so i get the
digital release again i won't get my flowers first nigga with the digital release whatever
and you sold records though not for nothing well I was the first one to not sell records,
and that was Clown
when I did 15,000, 16,000 digitally,
and then that was the new wave.
Everybody is now doing...
I think it was more than that, too.
I think it was 20-something.
Whatever it was, I was Clown,
and that's what people started doing.
And that was when iTunes
was giving you more than a penny
off what you sold.
Yeah.
I went to...
was trying to chase a label. Wait, maybe I have court papers to. Yeah. I went to a... was trying to chase a label.
Wait, maybe I have court papers
to say I...
I went to Algorithms.
They were trying to catch a single.
They had a big budget
for any A-list person.
They said, how about game?
I said, don't know
if that's going to work.
Reached out to game.
I don't know if you've heard
a DJ Clue mixtape recently.
He was cool.
He hit me, said, yo, I'll get this done for
a quick 60. I hit
algorithms. We're going to need
90. We're going to need
90 for that one. Duke.
Boy, was I such
a con scam ass nigga.
No, but you got to get paid for your time. And by
the way, this is alleged. They paid
the 90. No, they didn't. Hey, at the time I was by the way, this is alleged. They paid the 90.
No, they didn't.
Hey, at the time, I was about to lose my girl because I was broke.
I brought that 90 home.
I'm like, ah, we back.
Hey, Algorithm paid that 90.
I gave, he switched it up on me at the end.
He wanted 75, I think.
I only got like 10 or 15 out of it but boy was I grateful
for that
shout out to Game
there's a few more
of y'all that looked out
a little bit
shout out to 50
for not fucking me up
in front of Hot 97
when Web and Nitty
made me say all that stuff
all that stuff
all that stuff
about that decent man
all that jazz.
I didn't believe it.
I never felt that way.
Nah, you was cool.
You was mad cool, man.
Are you sure?
Listen, but that's why earlier in this pod
I said when you
were stupid, it's fun to look
back in hindsight. Like, damn,
what was I thinking back then yeah
all right so where are we at and let's not gloss over when you catch that 10 or whatever money is
relative to you when you're really broke and just need when you catch that 10 that you needed 10
when you're broke is well i was saying what's wrong to... I'm thankful. I'm thankful to Gabe. My rent was $401. I called a $600 check.
Facts.
Gabe had no word.
Gabe had no idea.
Let me not even lie on him.
He might have known how bad I was doing financially.
He might have known.
Like, that was a lookout from a friend to enemy.
Like, I paid...
Brim.
I can hear you.
You're right there.
We know you guys just got
This fancy new apartment
Some of us used to be broke
Yeah like I can hear you
In there laughing at me
I'm just saying
Look I really needed that 15 grand
I couldn't pay rent
Couldn't pay the car note
That was in the girl's name
At the time
Like it was bad
That's rough
Fam
Yeah
One day we'll be bold enough
To talk about how it feels
In the house
When you ain't shit
And your girl is
Yeah you gotta walk around The house light footed Gotta tiptoe One day we'll be bold enough to talk about how it feels in the house when you ain't shit and your girl is.
Yeah, you got to walk around the house light-footed.
Got to tiptoe.
That's her crib.
Got to keep offering her something to drink.
You thirsty?
You want some water?
What size?
The big one?
A little 16 ounce?
You've been on your feet all day.
Come here.
Come on.
Lay down.
Take a load off.
You went to work and came back.
You need a foot rub.
Every night.
And during the foot rub.
I don't know if you've talked to Con Ed yet.
But this is the second notice they've sent me.
Oh, man.
Good times.
When she look at you like that, that's when you got to kiss the abnormal places.
Like you stay at the belly button for a little while.
Like just appreciate her. Yeah.
Kiss the belly button like all life starts here you gotta start saying shit like that
that's when you call it a navel yeah let me just lay on your navel this is where life starts that's
when you gotta get to the belly button and since we all raised by our woman got a name for a woman
got our rent from a woman i think we all healed from a woman. Got our rents from a woman. I think we all heal from a woman.
Gotta be real
for our women.
Gotta hit your
pox swag on the belly button.
That's some funny shit, man.
That's some funny shit.
Shout out to everyone that's been broke.
Alright, what's good?
You're saying was. Niggas is broke right now.
Yeah, for real.
It's the hard times out there, man.
Yo, I called somebody, right?
Damn, should I share this?
I shouldn't share this, so let me see if there's a way I can share this and blank shit out.
Remix.
I called somebody that works for a company that I employ, that I've hired, right?
that I employ, that I've hired, right?
And I've recently had to address things.
And in attempting to address things,
I was like, ah, I called one of my favorite people over there and I was like, yo, what happens if we,
actually, I might get this person in trouble,
so let me not say this.
Let me not say this.
You can't come on a podcast
and talk about an off-the-record conversation
you were having.
I thought you were a vault.
Huh?
Nothing.
What'd you say?
Nothing.
I do revolt.
No, you said you were a vault.
Yeah, no, no.
Let me get back to being a vault.
You're not a vault.
I'm a vault.
Anywho,
Flex put out a little list recently and boy. Stirring the culture up. volt yeah no no yeah let me get let me get back to being a vault i'm a vault any any who's flex
put out a little list recently and boy stirring the culture some of the pics on there i tell you
yeah all right now what else we got what else we got what is this that i'm looking at
oh yeah something happened to timbaland i don't know because i was busy doing real shit like in
in the real world like with my real friends. Satachi-ing. Time out right there. You ever say that to somebody
you got cool with off the internet?
Boy, is it smoke.
Somebody that I'm cool with in real life?
I'm hanging out with my real friends.
Is that the internet version
of when you tell your girl
that you've known another girl longer than her?
Oh, you trying to kill yourself.
You know her longer than you.
Mistake.
Mistake.
Abort. What does that mean? I don't know why long it is. Mistake. Mistake. Abort.
What does that mean?
I don't know why
you tried to pull that off.
This was in my
late teens.
You got to just not
even know other women
that you were working?
Don't do that.
No, because it made
logical sense in my head.
Never deal with logic
with women, bro.
I was like, wait,
you're getting mad
at a girl that I've
known for over a decade
and I've known you
for 10 days?
Yes. Women are great. Yes. That's when you go on a date that I've known for over a decade and I've known you for 10 days? Yes.
Women are great.
Yes.
That's when you go on a date.
I bet you've been here with mad bitches.
Look, are you having fun?
And it's your turn.
Are you having a good time?
Do you like the fries?
Or not?
How's the salad?
How is the salad?
Matter of fact, I can give you a bunch of recommendations of what they got.
Steak here is great.
Have some.
The rigatoni is to die for.
Yeah, you can't go to a spot and start like,
look like you know your way around the spot.
Like, oh, you come here all the time, huh?
No, it has a sign that says bathroom this way.
I just know where I can read.
Like, the bathroom's over here.
Or you go to your main date spot
that you bring all the little hussies to.
You're thinking it's safe because you know the waiter.
The waiter forgot the faces.
He's like, hey, little Miss Mama, you having the same thing you had yesterday?
You having the same thing you had last night?
You're like, uh, you know.
I've done that as a bartender before.
That feels bad.
What are you doing?
And they actually teach you not to do that.
What are you doing?
Why'd you do it?
It happens.
It shouldn't.
I know.
Yeah, it's part of your job.
Some guys have a type, you know.
Yo, how small of a window did you do that move in?
I gave myself an hour one time.
I hit the hookah spot with a shorty, moved, went home, switched up, went right back to
the hookah spot.
You got to do that.
Years ago.
Like, must have been 20 years ago.
Keep showing your toes.
Had to be 20 years ago.
That's rookie shit.
I've done double headers and not showered in between.
Yo, I came back an hour later, and that waiter was so confused.
That waiter was like, I know I just saw you.
You know what?
What are you having?
All right, where we at?
So over the weekend when I was busy with my real friends.
You tell them.
I saw Twitter killing Timbaland.
And this is why I hate y'all. Yeah. What the fuck are you killing Timbaland, and this is why I hate y'all.
Yeah.
What the fuck are you killing Timbaland about?
Sampling.
Sampling.
Hold on.
Is this one of those times where it's one tweet and then a thousand people talking about
that one tweet as if a lot of people are saying that?
That's how things get trending, Roy.
No, I'm saying when they go, everyone's killing Timbaland.
You just explained it.
No, listen to me.
There'll be one tweet, and then everyone will talk about how everyone's killing Timbaland. You just explained it. No, listen to me. There'll be one tweet, and then everyone will talk about how everyone's killing Timbaland.
And if you look at it, no, it was just one tweet.
And now we're all talking about-
There were a few people.
Okay.
There were a few people killing Timbaland.
There's a lot of times-
They didn't know he sampled?
They didn't know Timbaland sampled?
Yeah.
They're learning about sampling.
Okay.
So this is a whole new generation of listeners.
Somebody put a clip together full of samples that Timbaland sampled.
And then the kids started talking about Timbaland stills music.
He paid for those.
Fuck paid.
Who cares?
Timbaland has enough money to pay.
He searched for ages for those samples.
There was an art to that.
There were people that-
Absolutely.
Still is art to that.
There used to be people, I don't know if that still exists today
that specifically located
samples
yes sir
right
and people that
sample super obvious shit
I mean
that's
not gonna say easy
but extremely easier
than Timberland
digging through the crates
with Indian music
that is not popular
in America
right
listen
and creating
number one records from it
right
yeah it just disturbs me when the kids doing a great job America and creating number one records from it. Right.
It just disturbs me when the kids
learn something and then just try
to kill somebody for some shit.
Like, when
they killed the sample, y'all took away jobs.
Y'all took away livelihoods
for some people. And they have not killed samples.
Samples are still going strong.
No, they didn't. They tried to,
but they didn't.
They tried to.
You're right.
Sampling is so important to music
because it gives a livelihood
to some people,
like maybe these Indianards.
I don't know how big they are there,
but now they're big everywhere.
You know what I'm saying?
It brings life to music
that people would have forgotten about
or not known about.
And receiving royalties from it.
Yeah. And not toalties from it. Yeah.
And not to mention
it creates some fucking
beautiful shit.
If you sample somebody
and don't credit them
or pay them,
I have an issue with that.
But other than that,
I think sampling is amazing.
It keeps music alive
and profitable
for artists,
either whether them
and if they're dead,
their estate and kids,
yeah, they're going to eat off
Big Pimpin'
for the rest of their life.
That's fucking amazing.
Maybe I'm wrong,
but wasn't our culture
created off of
sampling the breakbeat
in like records?
And that's what hip hop is.
The DJ found the breakbeat.
Yes.
The breakbeat was the break
in the disco record.
Right.
It's part of our culture.
It's what we do from hip hop.
Yes.
But this is obviously
a younger audience
that just isn't as well informed. Yes. But this is obviously a younger audience that just isn't
as well informed.
Yeah.
It's an art form
and it takes as much time
as someone who knows
how to play instruments
and also digs for samples.
It's the same amount of work.
Right.
It is the same amount of work.
There's an art to it
and it's time consuming
and it's beautiful.
It's the same,
I get the same satisfaction when
i come up with a cool guitar line as i do from finding a cool sample because it took equally
as much work right and and i hate to tell you people that hate sampling the people that are
not sampling are listening to other music to get inspired to do the non-sample that's the next part
even i hate to tell you even the music that people are sampling probably borrowed a lick from a record
before that or a lyric or something.
They didn't have samplers yet.
No idea is original. Correct.
I totally skipped by the funny part and why
I mentioned Rory telling me that we needed to interview
the boy.
Oh, about how you approached it.
Because I did not say that.
What do you think I did when Rory said,
yo, you need to reach out and see if we can get an interview with the boy?
I think you reached out.
You reached out?
Yeah, so what's his issue?
What's your deal?
I am a vote, so I'm not going to tell our millions of listeners
how you approached it.
I did it.
I'm self-aware. I'm confident. There's nothing wrong. I'm a ashamed of it. I did it. Like I'm self-aware.
I'm confident.
There's nothing wrong.
I'm a straight man.
I don't care what his Ellie Banks says.
You reached out.
Well, it's not that year yet.
Yes.
Yeah, it's true.
I sent the eyes.
Okay.
You got 11 months left.
Which eyes?
Yeah.
No, the eyes.
The eyes emoji.
There's more eyes?
Not just the eyeballs.
Why?
You sent that to a man?
The boy? more eyes not just the eyeballs why you sent that to a man the boy get him a booth
i shouldn't know you should what i should have said hello hi hi aubrey hey what's up man how
you been how's the family happy new year health and blessings prosperity yo you want to do this
interview how's your acl yeah see I feel like that's so see through
the eyes is just like
the eyes is what's good
it's fucking crazy
you trying to see me
no but you shouldn't
be trying to see
wait what
you shouldn't be trying
to see Drake
you're upsetting Bazley
Rory was trying to see Drake
oh
I set the eyes for Rory
oh you were setting Rory up
I wasn't thinking about it
wait Joe said my man
wanna talk to you
my man trying to talk to you?
My man trying to holler.
That was sick.
No, no, no, no, no, Rory, it's not.
Listen, I assume when he said, yo, I got an interview for y'all before the album dropped,
that it was a lie.
I didn't believe it.
Especially when him and Rory started going at it at the pool party.
I was like, oh, it's over.
I did at the interview.
Especially when he didn't send us a candle.
That's true.
He sent them to women.
Yeah, he sent them to women.
He didn't send us any, but that's okay.
It's just candles.
I know how you feel about candles, but it's okay.
It's okay.
But yeah, he said he would do it.
I take him as a guy of his word.
Said he would do it when he rapped out.
But if he do it, I mean, the eyes got it done. No, the eyes didn't get it done. He said he would do it. I'll take him as a guy of his word. Said he would do it. But if he do it, I mean, the eyes got it done.
No, the eyes didn't get it done.
He said he would do it before the eyes.
No, yeah.
You don't think it was?
No, it wasn't the eyes.
Pop Smoke.
If he doesn't do it, it's because of the eyes.
You might have just ruined it.
You ain't hit him.
You was at the pool party chilling?
No, I didn't know it was interview time.
Not that I want to even interview Drake.
I just want to talk shit with him.
But yeah, I mean, I'll hit him.
I'll reach out.
I think we would fail that interview.
Fail?
Because we would just be sitting there having a blast.
Yeah, that's what it's supposed to be.
I don't want to interview him.
I think Elliot and BDOT killed the journalism part.
They did the real part.
We got that.
I don't want to interview him.
Let's go fucking laugh.
Yeah, I want to laugh at Drake.
Niggas don't want to laugh with us.
Talk shit, laugh, crack jokes. Let's see. Let's go fucking laugh. Yeah, I want to laugh at Drake. Niggas don't want to laugh with us. Talk shit, laugh, crack jokes.
Let's see.
Let's see what the eyes does.
Pop Smoke makes his ass.
Yeah, you should have thought that one through.
Give me a few of the Satoshis.
Yo, give me them Satoshis.
Yo, let me get a couple.
Just a couple of Satoshis back, man.
Paul said that you got all of us $5.
I'm not listening to Paul.
And maybe I did.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But it makes sense.
I just told you I don't know.
But he just said how Pomp just broke it down.
Yeah.
That shit is worth it.
But he's saying that shit, yeah.
Yeah.
The important part in that is if it is $5, one day it could be $100.
$10.
Absolutely.
That's the important part.
I know you was joking
about my bar mitzvah before.
Give me my first.
Give me.
You can't do nothing good
for this podcast.
That's part of the way to God.
For my first communion,
like all my uncles gave me,
I forgot what those things are called
that over time.
The bonds or whatever?
The bonds, yeah.
Oh, the cracker?
That's racist.
They give you a cracker.
The body of Christ.
The cracker in the water.
That's a fucking...
It's a blessed...
That is a curse.
It's a blessed treat.
What's the cracker?
It's a treat.
It's a styrofoam chip.
It's a good cracker.
That's a little Section 8 chip.
That's a chip.
My grandma had 10,000 of those in the cupboard.
That shit's got a weird texture.
They are styrofoam
is there something weird
about just a man
putting a cracker in your mouth
is there something weird
about that
I'm sorry
I just thought about that
like
you haven't had any
Mo you've been wearing
a Jesus piece
this entire podcast
you get one
you have a
take some blood
your chain is the body of Christ
wait did you ever feed a girl
and if so
how did you fly the fork
you asked me this when we was out eating with two girls.
You don't remember that?
No.
You an idiot, man.
Tell me.
We're talking about it off air.
No, tell me.
You asked me if we was out eating.
20 years ago, I'm sure.
Yeah, 25 years ago.
Exactly.
We was having lunch with two lady friends.
Were they cute?
Did I have a joint there or was this like a casual thing?
No, this was the woman you were seeing at the time.
All right, well, who was shorter to you?
And this was her friend.
Who was shorter?
Nobody, right?
My homegirl.
Y'all, I hate this story.
No, it was my homegirl.
This was the woman you were seeing and this was a friend of mine.
Oh, yeah.
All right, all right.
He's been consistent for 25 years.
Hey, go ahead.
Get your shit on.
It was my homegirl.
So you asked me, you was like, yo, because she had said something about the food on my
plate.
So Joe was like, yo, Joe was like, go ahead, let her taste some.
You know what I mean?
Like, feed her.
I said, Joe, I'm not about to feed this woman.
Joe's like, yo, go ahead, make the airplane noise.
Yo, you know you hit him with the open up.
That's for children.
It's grown women sitting right here.
Joe's like, yeah, no, just make the airplane noise.
Feed her.
I was like, no.
All right, so you put the fork right to her mouth, grab her chin a little bit. No, no, just gave her my plate. I was like, yeah, have, just make the airplane noise. Feed it. I was like, no. All right, so you put the fork right to her mouth, grab her chin a little bit.
No, no.
Just gave her my plate.
I was like, yeah, have some.
Just pass the whole plate?
Yeah.
That's small.
Huh?
Because you don't know exactly how much she might like it.
She might want to keep it.
I mean, go ahead.
There's more where that came from.
We can order another one.
When Busta Rhymes put out pass to Kavarsia, did you pass it?
No, I wasn't a Kavarsia guy.
I was an E&J guy in that era.
Yeah, I just wasn't a Kavarsia guy. I killed you E&J guy in that era. I just wasn't
in Kavarsia.
I killed you.
No, no, you didn't kill me.
I know you and Biggs
was in the club
passing around Kavarsia.
Yes, you was.
No?
No.
All right, just checking.
All right.
And I never finished
my bond story
of how I thought
as a kid
when I got all these bonds
I was going to be rich at 18
and 18 hit
and I had $50.
Yeah.
I did the same thing.
I was like, ooh, I'm good when I get to school.
I have mad bread.
I got that communion bond.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
My mom took them shits out of her drawer that had been sitting there for 15 years.
I said, come on, mom.
Hand that shit over.
Yeah.
Went right down to the bank.
Here's 50 bucks, sir.
That's all of them?
Yeah, all of them.
Yeah.
I made that mistake once.
Bonds. Fuck off. I was like, I'll cash this thing in. I'll be straight for Yeah, all of them. Yeah. I made that mistake once. Bonds.
Fuck off.
I was like, I'll cash this thing in.
I'll be straight for a little while.
No.
Nope.
That was 200 bucks.
I mean, it got me through, though.
I want to shit on bonds.
I want to shit on my uncles.
Because that was what?
25 cents you put on that shit?
I want to shit on them.
The fuck did you do for my communion?
That's sick.
It was like a big sacrament of my life. That's sick. What the fuck is wrong with y'all? I put a nickel on it. What the fuck did you do for my communion? That's sick. It was like a big sacrament of my life.
That's sick.
What the fuck is wrong with y'all?
I put a nickel on your shit.
I got something for the little lad.
Come on, man.
Put that in there.
What the fuck?
That was a lot of years, man.
That was bullshit.
You up up now, though.
I got the Takashi's.
You up and you stuck up You up and you stuck
You up and you stuck up there
It's not
He's not stuck up there
He's sitting right here
He's grounded
I'm sitting right on the couch
Alright
Nevermind
He's stuck up there
Okay
Pop Smoke
We ain't been up in a while right
He's been down down
I've actually been doing alright
Yeah
Talk your shit
Bounce back
There you go.
What happened?
What happened?
I thought it was turmoil and mess.
What happened to you this weekend?
Bounce back.
Show off.
You know what I'm saying?
No.
You know that's how niggas talk when they get the fresh shape up.
Yo, I said to somebody, yo, man, on the chatty house, what you think about a little versus
between Big Sean and Wale?
And they was like, ah, ah, ah. chatty house, what you think about a little versus between Big Sean and Wale? And they was like, ah!
They laughed you out the room?
Yeah.
Why?
Wait, on whose behalf?
I'm pretty sure they laughed him out on behalf of Big Sean.
They didn't.
I was going to say.
They told me that why would that even be a competition for Big Sean?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
They don't think that Wale is any competition for him.
Wale is doing numbers in a versus.
That's a tough opponent.
That's not what we're saying.
Versus Big Sean, how does it look?
I think Wale should have enough records.
That's a good matchup.
Wale has enough records.
Big Sean wins in the feature game.
That's the thing that might separate them.
Yeah.
Is the big features.
No hands is a point.
Check that.
Yeah.
There's a lot of Wale.
Lotus Flower Bomb might be a point.
Might be.
The joint with Usher is a point.
Matrimony.
The Usher joint.
That's a point.
Is a point.
I don't know what Sean going to follow that with, but that's a point.
Wale got some shit.
Maybe 20 is the distance between Sean.
He had a couple hits on that first album.
But Sean had,
oh, so that would kind of be like
Kanye's camp.
What's the name of his camp?
Good Music.
Good Music versus all-
MMG.
No, but even Wale with features,
I'm not saying it's on the same as Sean
with like the Kanye and Hov shit,
but he's got some Rick Ross features,
some MMG features,
Meek features that
he can keep up in the feature game as well.
Yeah, absolutely.
Wale is a quality opponent.
He's quietly,
he's got a lot of joints.
From his class,
he has maybe just bigger radio hits
and those type of joints.
Somebody just made it cool to not like Wale
and people ran with it.
I don't know why.
Well, Wale complains on the internet.
He was just joking about that, I think, today or yesterday or something.
That'll do it.
Y'all want to talk about, let's talk about the Nets.
Talk about it.
I'm on the bandwagon.
Already?
Even without seeing Kyrie in the news?
I don't know what I said last week
You still think the Knicks
Gonna catch the Knicks?
Actually hold up man
Hold up let me get in on it
I don't know
I mean get in on our new segment
Worst Take
Hey alright Mo you ready?
Me and you huh?
Max what's up?
The Joe One Network presents Worst Take.
Worst Take.
Hey.
Hey.
Am I Molly?
Is that Molly?
Oh, look, and while they come, that's a point.
The first take record?
That's a point.
It could be.
Come on, Molly.
So, guys.
Introduce us, Parksy.
How's Jalen?
He's well.
He's...
Look at Parksy.
Hey, Molly be home
soaking up that Jalen talk
and she be bringing
the smoke to Stephen.
Stephen, wait.
Wait, hold up.
Let's talk.
You don't believe.
Like, yo, Molly,
you better relax.
Molly, you're supposed
to be moderating here.
Yeah, you better chill out, Molly. All right, so listen. I don't believe. Like, yo, Molly, you better relax. Molly, you're supposed to be moderating here. Yeah, you better chill out, Molly.
All right, so listen.
I don't know what I said last week.
What did you say?
I don't think you said nothing crazy.
Whatever I said, it was wrong.
I forgot that James Harden can pass.
Whatever.
I forgot he could pass.
I forgot he's the man.
I forgot that I've seen this on the Thunder.
It's the three of them there, Jeff Green, Durant, and Harden.
And if you're subbing out Westbrook for Kyrie, whenever he gets back,
I don't care that they don't have a bench.
He's back tonight.
Wait, I don't care that they – tonight?
Oh, we out of here.
Why are we still potting?
I don't care that they can't stop a wet paper bag from scoring.
They can't stop anything.
And guess what?
I'm watching every one of these games.
This is beautiful.
This is amazing.
The jerseys remind me of Derrick Coleman, Kenny Anderson.
Thank God Steve Nash is not out there calling plays.
Thank God that he is not doing that.
But they look sick.
Yeah, they look good.
I'm penciling them in as going to the finals now.
I don't care about what Greek Freak is doing.
Yo, who knew that Kevin Durant hated Greek Freak?
Look how I started narrative.
I didn't know it.
Well, I only pushed him nine times in that game the other night.
And he also was scoring with such a vigor that it was like,
oh, all right, you got something against this guy.
KD really don't fuck with a lot of dudes in the league, though.
He won't say it publicly, but he really doesn't.
He don't fuck with a lot of these dudes. But I like. He won't say it publicly, but he really doesn't.
He don't fuck with a lot of these dudes.
But I like that.
I like that. I like the fact that you keep it like, you know, we just play against each other, but
I don't really fuck with y'all like that.
What do you think about some of the women who say James Harden lost 48 pounds in 46
hours?
Like, he did look in shape.
It was like, damn, I see why.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did the wrestling diet?
Huh?
Did the wrestling diet? Whatever he did, it works I see why. Yeah. Yeah. Did the wrestling diet? Huh? Did the wrestling diet?
Whatever he did, it works.
He's happy now.
They tried to block him off one game from getting to the top of the key
and lead him into the defender on the baseline.
He stepped back all the way to the baseline and shot a three in an awkward motion.
It was like, yo, why are we not just fast-forwarding to the finals?
You should not be able to do that.
So they look great
and I'm all the way in.
I got to rush home
to see how Kyrie looks with James.
That's it.
Yeah.
That's it.
That's my...
Yeah, they look good, man.
That's my worst take.
They're still not...
They're a small team.
They don't have a lot of bigs.
I think that might hurt in playoffs
or might affect them a little bit.
But when you have three guys that can score the way James, Katie, and Kyrie can,
I mean, that kind of gives you a little bit of a cushion.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, when you trade away all your bigs, right?
Yeah, yeah.
You see Obi back.
Hey.
Yeah, I think he's back too.
No, I like Obi.
I like him.
Yeah, he's back.
That's all I'm saying.
Anything else in sports that we need to mention?
Football.
Football this weekend.
Real quickly, I don't know if I said it off mic before or on mic.
I am a loyal Knicks fan.
When you guys do see me rooting for the Nets, you can call me bandwagon.
No, I mean, I think you just like the fact that it's just fun basketball to watch.
And it's in New York.
Yeah, I think that's all it is.
Julia's still killing, Joe.
You know what I'm saying?
You ain't talk about that.
You ain't talk about that.
He's still cooking.
Well, leave me alone. Nah, because you tried to, you know what I mean?
Leave me alone.
He's like, yo, you had some things to say about him.
He's still killing for y'all.
Look.
No, he is.
He is.
He's killing.
They look good.
I love Quickly.
I love Quickly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's special.
He's crazy.
As soon as he goes to the bench, tank season.
Them niggas can't score a lick when Quickly goes to the bench.
Joe's been saying that for two decades.
Now we should tank this year.
What's your NFL picks, Joe?
Unlike you, I think the Bucs have a shot.
I think the Bucs have a shot.
I think they don't win at all.
Mike, no.
I think they don't win at all. Aaron Rodgers. Huh? I think they don't win at all.
I just, Aaron Rodgers is fucking balling.
And it's in Green Bay.
The winner of the Super Bowl is playing the other game.
It's Buffalo or it's Kansas City.
It's one of them.
I think Buffalo's going to win.
Buffalo's ready.
I think Buffalo's going to win.
They can beat Kansas City.
They can beat Green Bay.
They can beat the Bucs. They can beat them all. I would like to see the Bucs win. Bay. They can beat the Bucs.
They can beat them all.
I'm not mad at the Bucs.
And if I'm Griselda, I'm really rooting for them.
I don't understand.
They made a whole song.
Yeah, they were at the game.
They did a bunch of shit.
They're like the ambassadors.
Do we need to spend any time on whatever the tweet was that Griselda said?
No.
No?
No, I'm going to try to get calm.
Yeah, let's find out.
Let's not irresponsibly use our platform.
Let's see what's going on before we report on that.
Did I talk about Pop Smoke making his acting debut
in the upcoming film Boogie?
Get into it.
Pop Smoke is making his acting debut
in the upcoming film Boogie.
Well, that's great.
Boogie, boogie, boogie, boogie
about Chinese-American basketball player.
This is an ad.
I'm not reading the ad, but I will see.
I will check this. Yeah, me too. Because I thought Pop Smoke had a real bright future ahead of him.
So shout out to him.
Rest in peace.
This is awesome.
Oh, so this is Jeremy Lin's story?
Linsanity.
Oh, is it really?
No, I'm just saying.
It's a Chinese-American basketball player.
Mo, don't do that again.
Alfred Boogie Chan.
I'm just studying and working on becoming a professional basketball player.
Sorry for believing you instead of thinking you were racist.
Ma, what you doing tomorrow?
I actually genuinely was like, oh, wow, this would be a really good story.
Meanwhile, he's just a racist fuck.
No, he's a proud boy.
The gentleman looks like a guard.
He's a guard.
Look, now it's the gentleman.
Jeremy Landers is a guard. If he was Look now it's the gentleman Jeremy Lin is a guard
If he was a big man
If he was a big man
The gentleman
No we got it
We know what you're trying to say
Jeremy Lin is Chinese American
He was Antifa
He's Antifa
He's Antifa
All the Chinese is Antifa
No he's a Chinese American
I'm Jeremy Lin okay
I know you have a problem with China
China
What you doing tomorrow, man?
You going to sabotage the inauguration?
Nah, man.
What you mean?
Chill out.
I'm coming to your crib.
I'm going to come right there.
Keep it up, man.
Make sure you're straight.
I'm just mad.
You know, Trump, he's gone, man.
I don't have no more jokes, man.
I can't look at CNN and laugh.
You know, this was a good four years of life.
If you think any of this is going away because he's out of office, I just want you all to
come in here and talk about Sleepy Joe. I'm wide awake now. If you think any of this is going away because he's out of office, I just want you to come
here and talk about Sleepy Joe.
I'm wide awake now.
When he start doing his shit.
I mean, Joe goes to bed pretty early.
I'm up, man.
I'm up.
Took a little nap early.
I'm good.
Not Biden.
Yeah, man.
So Lady Gaga set to really kill shit this year somewhere.
Somewhere.
At the inauguration?
And Jennifer Lopez set to perform at Biden's inauguration.
Good for them.
Good for them.
I don't know if I'm tuning into the inauguration pre-show.
Y'all want to talk about that?
No?
Is Steve Harvey going to be there breaking the Lego ball?
Oh, that was Gronk that broke the Lego ball.
Yeah.
Broke Harvey's Lego face.
He was mad about that.
There he was.
That's a sick shape up Snoop Dogg helps
Death Row Records founder
Harry O receive
Presidential pardon
Well
Harry O Harris
58 has been fighting
To get out of prison
For years
Recently there's been
Relentless push
For his release
After contracting COVID-19
Also been stricken
With the ailment called
Ghoulian Bar Syndrome
That attacks the immune system
And nerves
Harris has been jailed
over 30 years
after he was convicted
of trafficking cocaine
and attempted murder.
We hear a lot about
who Trump is allegedly
supposed to pardon.
Kodak Black,
Lil Wayne,
Harry O,
all of his white
scammer buddies.
Y'all called him racist.
See?
Yeah.
Yeah, so think he's racist.
Listen, man,
we got some really
interesting sleepers for y'all this week.
Man.
Free Harry O and they call him racist, man.
Yeah.
Yo, so it was a million people telling me that I needed to watch the Tiger Woods doc on HBO Max, right?
Uh-huh.
Told you guys that and got laughed out of the room.
That's what happened?
Told you guys that And got laughed out of the room
That's what happened
But I
I wrote down over the weekend
Because I kept seeing the commercials
For the trailer
The trailer for the doc
And they kept showing me golf
So I wrote down
Tiger Woods'
Doc
Should not have led with golf.
That was what I was coming in here to discuss with y'all.
I feel like we just needed to see a lot more of the mess,
hear a lot more thoughts from the people that were there,
involved, that watched them, so forth and so on.
Oh.
And I talked to some people that watched,
and they said, fam, that's exactly what this is.
Oh.
This is not golf time.
It's not a golf doc.
Everybody's there. And I said said what do you mean everybody they said his girlfriend from high school was there i said okay that's pretty cool they said no and she has the note that tiger wrote
her to say hey i'm never speaking to you again so when i watched it she had the note it was signed
love tiger how do we know he wrote that?
We don't. We don't. But that's what I
wanted to talk to you all about. Well, he ended all his
voicemails with, hey, it's Tiger.
Well, that part too. That was really him. But listen
to this. I'm with you, Mo. I don't know that
he wrote that letter to Shorty.
And at least in part one of this, Doc,
I won't get too in detail about it because I want to give you all
a chance to watch it so we can talk about it.
It's really good. It's really good and this is not a tiger at all I have
not seen I don't like talking just yet I don't like docs like that talk to the guy you're making
a documentary about let's hear his side yeah let him defend all these people that y'all got
but what do you mean defend himself it was nothing but them showing his greatness his rise fall and
rise again.
So, I mean, for me, I don't need to hear you speak to Tiger, but I asked that last week.
Remember, I was like, yo, who owns this?
Does he co-sign this?
But when I watched it, or when I watched some of it, they had so many people that had everything to do with Tiger.
I enjoyed hearing their perspective.
They had his caddy.
They had his girl.
They had this person. They had this person.
They really got in depth with his mom and his dad.
And that's where I wanted to take this conversation with y'all.
Because he was a golf phenom at two years old.
They showed how his dad was a stage dad.
And when we think about the term stage parents or stage dad or mom as it relates to white people,
when you see them put their two-year-old daughter in ballet or something early,
it'd be real sick shit to me.
I'd be like, damn, that's fucked up.
I mean, we've seen the story before
with some of the greats,
like Michael Jackson was robbed of a childhood.
Some of the people were just robbed of a childhood.
And when we watched this with Tiger,
that's what it was.
And there's a beauty in that,
and it's also very odd to watch.
So without y'all watching it it without us talking about the doc
where do y'all stand on stage parents like inserting your kid to be a great at something
before your kid knows anything about the universe is it art is it pressure is it good is it bad the doc starts with the dad saying i made this child or he didn't even say
this child he said it no they even mentioned when he went into nike after signing they were trying
to do the like consulting media training shit he was like no i already did this i've been training
him to be this for his whole life what What the fuck are y'all talking about?
They just got into, hey, I made
this child to be
the greatest golfer ever.
And then they just show you how it was done.
And because I was alive
for it, I wasn't
in a rush to go see it. I was in high school.
I think Tiger and I are the same age.
That's why I started to watch it last
night, but I kind of turned it off because I'm like,
for us that kind of grew up with this,
we saw so much Tiger shit.
Deservedly so.
He's one of the best athletes that we've ever seen.
But we were bombarded with Tiger docs for 20 years.
You know what I'm saying?
On SportsCenter and ESPN and everywhere in the world.
So I wasn't rushing to see this.
But if it's worth watching,
I'll check it out.
He was probably the biggest athlete
of my era
watching sports as a kid.
Makes sense.
No, he was.
Yeah.
1,000%.
And he's 45.
He's five years old.
I just like the documentaries
that, like how they did
Jordan's last dance.
They bring the iPad
and they show you something
that they interviewed somebody
and they give Mike
a chance to respond to that.
I just I just like docs like that.
I wish they would have did that.
I like that.
Show me what people that you've interviewed for my doc are saying about me and give me a chance to I don't have to be in the same room with them.
Give me a chance to respond to that.
None of you answered the stage parents question.
And I'd like an answer from you.
I'm not mad at it.
Is it beautiful or is it a real ugly thing?
As long as it's not too obsessive.
Like if it looks like your kid is genuinely just...
Isn't the entire idea based around an obsession?
No.
By the way, why I think it's ugly
is because let's look at the percentage.
It is based around obsession.
There's a lot...
This happens very often.
And let's look at the percentage of the Tigers,
the Michael Jacksons, the Williams sisters.
It's not a high percentage of what they become compared to the amount of stage parents that there are in the world.
And it fucks kids up.
And they're not all going to become Tiger Woods.
So, yes, it's ugly.
It fucked Tiger Woods up.
Yeah.
That's what they said in the first episode.
They prepared him to be the greatest golfer in the world.
They just didn't prep him for fame.
Humanity.
And life.
Yeah.
And what it would do.
Like, let's save this.
Let's table this.
I want y'all to watch it so we can really have an in-depth conversation about it.
Because, boy, is it great.
Netflix announced that they put out their entire slate of movies.
They said they got a new movie coming out every week for the rest of the year.
How do y'all feel about it? Like it?
Yay? Nay? I like it. Sure. I like it.
Better do something. HBO's on your ass.
HBO's on your ass. New
Denzel movie coming out. End of the month. There's
another movie coming out. I saw four movies
that dropped that I need to go see.
Make sure you see One Night in Miami.
I need to go see
One Night in Miami.
Amazon Prime. Make sure you go watch
American Skin
American Skin
what's that about
I hear that's really good
it's about a
boy getting shot by a cop
and
and taking
taking the law
in his own hands
that's what the little paragraph said
I brought that up on here
but I thought it was
an older movie
but maybe
it's like the movie
that we were talking about
the other day
where it was never released
Synchrosity
yeah that was never released
or Synchronize
whatever the name is
but these movies were slated to be released in 2019 or whatever and because movies died talking about the other day where it was never released. Synchrosity. Yeah, that was never released. Or Synchronize, whatever the name is.
But these movies were slated to be released in 2019
or whatever
and because movies died,
they're being released now this way.
I know we're almost at three hours
but your honor,
it happened.
Yeah, it did happen.
I fell asleep on it
so please do not tell me.
It was one of the duller episodes
but I think it's setting up
for this shit.
Oh, they're building,
they're creating stories. It's one of those swing episodes.
They're supposed to swing you into the next one.
Well, once they get swinging, you know this is about to end soon,
so they're going to get to it.
No, it's about to get to the shits once this trial begins.
Yeah.
I didn't think it was a dull episode at all, actually.
I like episodes where they build story.
I didn't say it was a bad episode.
It was just action-wise
from what everything's been.
It's a set-up episode.
It's set-up for...
For the next one.
That's what it is.
The series to be crazy.
I think I'm going to watch
American Skin tonight.
Boy, it would be better
if I had a young lady
to watch it with,
but whatever.
Shoot your shot, bro.
Come on.
At who?
I don't know.
You should actually
watch this with Trey.
Hmm.
Interesting. Yeah. My kid is too hot out. He don't want to watch movies actually watch this with Trey. Hmm. Interesting.
Yeah.
My kid is too hot out here to want to watch movies with me.
Nah, you can't do that.
Like, imagine being 20 years old and wanting to watch a movie with your dad.
You got to make that a thing, man.
You got to make that a thing.
And important movies.
All right.
You know, this story is important.
Black father, black son.
It's important.
Yeah, no.
I'm going to check this out, and that's not a bad idea.
I'll call him and ask him.
He'll say no,
but I will ask him.
That's all I have for TV.
Hopefully you're happy
we didn't give a year-on-a-spoiler.
We're trying.
We're trying to be better
out here, man.
Yeah.
And I don't think
there's anything else,
any music dropping Friday
that we need to know about.
That's a good question.
So Friday,
we got the Tiger Doctor to talk about doctor talk about the Pharaoh album that I've
produced is coming out Friday let's get it's round okay look a shot something
else is coming up Friday January 21st yeah um i don't think there's any releases that i saw no music releases uh that
i saw again i want to shout out uh mainly karen civil a girl i guess podcast dropping tomorrow
on the joe button network uh video and audio dropping the same day shout out to bridget
olivia and mandy uh see the thing is podcast each and every Tuesday morning. Y'all know the vibes, man.
What is this that I'm reading here?
Charlie Puth tweeted and deleted that Drake's new album certified level boy will drop Thursday, January 21st.
Yo, I wish they shut the fuck up.
That was the original date.
I was going to say, didn't he say that in a trailer?
They said that.
Yo, third week of January.
We live.
Why anybody keep acting like they got news?
You wasn't in the Bahamas, man.
You mad at Charlie.
You ain't send Drake the eyes You ain't try to eye the boys
I'ma find a song
To play
Get us out of here in the proper manner
Like a sleeper or just a song?
Nah a sleeper and a song.
Let's see here.
All right.
There we go.
Let's play.
Give the girl some run here Yeah
Yeah Please don't make it a scene cause Yeah
Please don't make it a scene cause
I've been doing this all my life
Say I'm lying but what you mean?
Think I'm tweaking but that ain't me
We got something between us
I be thinking about you all night
It's all part of the dream, love
Just a part of the lifestyle
Baby, say, say somethin'
I don't give a damn about nothin'
Even though, even though
I be up in here without you
Baby, you can trust me
I love the way you love me
So let it go, let it go
Oh, baby
He said, have another drink, I might
Begging me the things I like
Even with these flashing lights
I'm still thinking of you
And he's telling me a dream tonight
Trying to get you off my mind
But when I take a step back
I see me in you
These boys are situations
These boys are here for fun
They all come second
But you're my number one
Don't love me while I'm dancing
Don't love me while I'm drunk
But I can't wait to
Be with you when I'm done
I'm saying, baby, please
I'll be over here, you'll be over there
But you're still my baby
Can you feel me, oh baby
I need, I need my space
You need yours, but we're all that we need
And baby you know that I want you, oh
Baby say, say something
I don't give a damn about nothing
Even though, even though
I'd be up in here without you
Baby, you can trust me
I love the way you love me
So let it go, let it go
Oh, baby
He said, have another drink of mine
Buyin' me the things I like
But even with these splashin' nights
I'm still thinkin' of you
And he's sellin' me a drink tonight
Tryna get you off my mind
When I think of paradise
I think of paradise
I think of me and you
These boys have situations
These boys are here for fun
They all come second
But you're my number one
Now love me while I'm dancing
Now love me while I'm drunk
But I can't wait to
Be with you when I'm done
Let's call situations off that Danny Lay Project movie
Shout out to Danny Lay, shout out to DaBaby
DaBaby just dropped some new shit too
Yeah, and Danny Lay is dope man to DaBaby, DaBaby just dropped some new shit too.
Yeah, and Danny Lay is dope man, she makes really good music.
Yeah, she is.
I'm gonna play the new Galant record, this is Comeback.
It's so hard, saying my mistakes with you in front of me The risk of you judging me, but I'll attempt an apology
Let the planets turn different to astrology
I was distant to monogamy, tried to break up the monotony
Now I know sameness was stability
And I'm aimed at now it's killing me
Swear the ego is the enemy, oh, yeah
And believe me, I've been regretting it
Though I used to mince words for the hell of it
I mean these, no embellishment
You can come back, uh
You can come back
There's no better time
I'll leave on the lights
You can come back, baby
You can come back
You can come back
You can come back
There's no better time
I'll leave on the lights
You can come back
I lowered my defenses for the evening
I shouldn't have ever listened to the demons
Telling me I should get any more than you perceived
Who knew that inner voice was a master of deceit
As I lay here in defeat, 20-20 hindsight can see
How that tall and sturdy fortress was really built on broken beams
If a new big bang's the remedy, could you stop it with me?
Not a lone one, but a new one, home sweet home galaxy
Baby, you can come back
You can come back
There's no better time
I'll leave on the line
You can come back, baby
You can come back
You can come back
That keeps going.
I get busy.
That's Galant, Comeback.
Different sound for Galant. More traditional R&B mid 2000s shit but I think it's amazing.
Alright, play a new joint from Love to Genius. This is Break Soul. Yeah, yeah
If Peter Piper pecked him, I bet you Benny fucked him
Can't wait gon' 50 buck him, I told you try your luck then
Lyrically, I dust him off like plaques
Tattoo love on backs when they ass get tapped
Now check it, I pity the fool who tried to stare here
These bars are transsexual, I'm feeling like the man here
And with that I was left on my dick
Now what's left of the clique Get you stretched out if I go put the pin
in They call me left a genius and I be going
dumb And who with me, see they the meaner, they
probably got a gut And I don't really care who team it is
I'm squeezing in and aiming at domes I'm new here but I'm aiming at thrones
Been to my nigga everyday but it ain't on that phone
He know they listening to loose lip, six feet deep
Socially, this just tried to do different, like let's see
How that is hitting ended up dead, the news said he only missing love
My brain work like this I'm getting rid of hella pain with a verse like this
Who knew a music in this chain would be cursed like bitch?
You know Lucifer had his wings, then he up and switched
And I get flyer everyday, yes, I get rich And I hear what these bitches say, but it's
not like this I came in here with all this wang on
Dapped and dipped, act stupid, you had your brain gone
Now don't slip, now check this I fly to Texas and go pick up a necklace
Take it back to the east side, give it to who the next is And you don't gotta like me, but shit you gon'
respect it This shirt off of my back, huh, them bitches
left me naked And who you think the best is, they gettin'
disrespected Been up for days on rest lists, see rappers
up for breakfast And you can tell I'm hungry, how my breathing
and breath is I'm runnin' up to pass em, I got it on my
checklist The laid back and locked Working crew, got a glock, fearing God and
I'm not Sparing y'all and I'm not
Bearing all of my opps, getting calls for the drop
Meet them off in the lot, and it's all for this top
I'm a boss, I'm a lot, take a haul of this spot
It gets hard, it gets hot, still better than a block
I swear the wind is not, I'd rather show I'm different
All of them getting locked
Now hitches in the kitchen I see no competition
I say that with conviction I'm knocking down doors
Those used to be evictions Look, look at how they listen, ma
Life is getting different, huh? They keep trying to keep up now
They don't wanna miss it, ma
Dope record, man.
This is Love the Genius with Break Soul soul shout out to love the genius can't
wait to hear more from her yeah she's super dope absolutely I'm play a record from my brother Yeah, good look on the B-shot Don't dare play me that shit, come with a penalty
Have your wife picking up brains like Mrs. Kennedy
Pray for my enemies, cause evil is the enemy
Still fighting the devil, gave him reason to send for me
What I'm mad at, nothing except when they bluffing
That's the reasons for gun butt and the poke in the stomach
Gangsta, do this shit
Do my dirt by my lonely, but what it rain and turn to mud
I run through that with my homies, thorough
They can't believe I'm real and not from a borough
I'm from Elmira, upstate, got every drug you can take
A lot of love but it's fake, it's crazy how people try they hardest to relate
But in the same breath they hate, fuck it
If you standin' on it, I'll kick the bucket, trust it
I'm here for mine, born to pay the grind
Stay ready, so I don't gotta get ready
I handle mine, y'all runnin' on ample time
Your bitch wanna sample mine
Yeah, she wanna fuck, but she think it's for camera time
Dummy, niggas flip a ounce
All of a sudden, they hungry and gettin' money
You re-up a zip, ain't that funny?
Told Ferg you're right, bitch, you're my bitch
Mike Vick with the shit, out of pocket again
Like James Harden, my shooter, the reason rockets got lit
Bag of bits to roll my weed, she only slob on the dick
Cause she ain't bad enough to get on top of the dick
I kick flows like Miyagi with the cry me a shit
Squirting your girl, muff like sake, I'll bye to you, bitch, you sorry
And I ain't never saying sorry
Whoever pop and get smoked, nigga
Welcome to the
party that's ramsey's place by blickadon off his ep the bar study shout out to blicka and rest in Dance with me, come on, dance with me, baby. Dance with me, come on, dance with me, baby.
Mic check, mic check, mic check.
The vibes continue this episode, gentlemen.
I appreciate y'all.
Thank y'all.
I know I did that earlier, but I want to do it again because y'all are dope.
Really enjoyed these last few pods where we can all get educated together on a few things.
few pods where we can all get educated together on a few things.
Really enjoyed us using our
platform responsibly
being dot connectors.
We connecting dots out here, Rory.
I'm just a mere mortal to you
influencers. Come on, man. You could be
a micro.
You're a micro.
I see your shit on a micro level i'm not a micro you gotta put
mi in your bio yeah yeah i mean get your satoshi right now though like take your phone out and do
it in your bio right now if you guys think i'm a micro influencer never mind forget it you
you're not no i'm a major influencer talk mi same shit minor major listen man i'm the greatest man i said that before i
knew i was go use my fashion over cold man come on i said that before i knew i was oh
but why are you pressing him to go use it yo go use my code man
a little sauce on the your code my code right now go buy something you know rory get that five
percent when you use his code like the only fans girl yeah just go to my only fans too
one day we'll talk about the onlyFans girls robbing each other,
telling them I used my code.
No, bitch, I'm not giving you 10% of my earnings.
No, one day we'll talk about the functionality of the OnlyFans app
and where they're dropping the ball, but that's another thing.
Have you pinpointed where they're dropping the ball?
The functionality of not having an app and having to go to a website
that lags and always has errors all the time.
They paid you for that?
I'm confused about that. That's free game. See, I'm a little confused. and having to go to a website that lags and always has errors all the time they paid you for that i'm
confused about that i'm a little confused that that line confuses me because the app the app
store stuff like i could see a company especially one that has porn on this not one to
have an app store and not one to cut the app store in on their 30. yeah because of the porn stuff
but i can't see why they would want to anyway Well then use
I'm not cutting you in on 30% of shit
That's what all the Fortnite dudes
And everybody else was mad at
Why would I do that for my OnlyFans
If I have all the girls fuck you
Then figure out how to make your web
OnlyFans
Fashion Nova
If I got the girls fuck you sorry uh shout out to kairi man
kairi irving uh bought a house for the family of george floyd
uh that's what stephen jackson is reporting shout out to uh matt barnes and stephen jackson
every other podcaster out there and And rest in peace to George Floyd.
Really honorable move by Kyrie.
I appreciate him.
I can't wait to see him tonight.
Yeah, and everybody stop saying Kyrie should retire
and he's not focused on basketball.
Ask about his mental health.
How about that?
Kyrie's mental health is all right.
Oh, we hope so.
We don't know.
I haven't spoken to him.
That boy is no fool.
Listen, man, we getting out of here, man.
I hope y'all really enjoyed this podcast.
Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there until the next time.
I bid you a due farewell.
Hasta la vista. Adios. So long. Goodbye.
Reba Durchy. 100. All that good stuff.
Your Uber's outside. Uber pool.
Hit me when you get home.
Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass.
So let's make this one last as if it's all that we have.
Before we get out of here, to the fellas out there, please remember that the baddies are insecure.
The stagnant women want to travel and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things.
Enjoy your headache, please.
Get your Tylenol.
Big one.
With that said, we are gone, man.
What y'all got going on for the week? Anything interesting?
Anything fun?
No, I'm keeping it light, man.
2021 is still cooking.
Head down to the finish line. Let's look
up around June, July, August
and see what the work looks like.
And we out here, man. Let's vibe out.
Happy Wednesday. Enjoy's vibe out. Happy Wednesday.
Enjoy yourself out there.
Single ladies.
How you have no one to watch your honor with?
I don't know.
Fat Man Scoop.
Crunklin' Clan.
Fat Man Scoop.
Crunklin' Clan.
Crunklin' Clan.
Crunklin' Clan. It's okay. I was just in a room with Fat Man Scoop on that app. Kronk the Klan. Kronk the Klan. Kronk the Klan. Oh. Kronk the Klan.
It's okay.
I was just in a room with Fat Man Scoop on that app.
And I was like, this is kind of cool.
Yeah, it was cool.
And Fat Man Scoop was giving it up.
I'm sure.
I appreciated that.
No Joe.
No Joe.
No Joe Biden.