The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 427 | "Straightened Out" (feat. Steve Stoute)
Episode Date: March 31, 2021On this episode: Joe and the guys discuss Saweetie and Quavo’s relationship issues (28:10) as well as the rumors stating that Justin Laboy was jumped. Three more women accuse Houston Texans QB, Desh...aun Watson, of sexual assault (44:42), and the guys speak to holding everyone accountable, including Governor Cuomo (53:40). Foogiano sends a threat to Trey Songz from jail for posting his girlfriend (59:50), Lil Nas X is being sued by Nike (1:12:50), and Jeezy’s ex-manager says he’s lost all street credibility after making peace with Gucci Mane (1:51:25). Entrepreneur, music, and advertising executive, Steve Stoute, joins the JBP to discuss his early beginnings (2:04:00), advertising ventures (2:10:00), UnitedMasters distribution (2:16:25) and more! For more exclusive content: become a Patron of the The Joe Budden Podcast at www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Vanessa Williams - “Work To Do” Parks | Rod Wave - “Pillz & Billz” Ice | Ralo - “Fame” (Ft. Derez De’Shon) Ish | Mase - “Cheat on You” (Ft. Lil’ Cease & Jay-Z)
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there we go what y'all are saying is and i know my brain works a little weird but
by y'all's calculations i'm not super in love if you see my name all over all of the likes on
instagram spread out to y'all that that means joe is in love with the chicks he's liking the pics of
no man we're not saying you're in love like Like, oh my God, I love this shit.
Y'all think I want to sleep with every chick that I hit the like on?
When y'all see my name spread out throughout Instagram, is that how y'all feel?
Can we give a percentage?
Yeah, no, please.
Please, please.
You're shooting high numbers.
70.
On a like.
Y'all are pulling this much from a like.
No, we're pulling this much from knowing Joe.
I'm pulling that much from personal information and the likes.
You have a type.
Yeah.
So if you go on a girl's page and like the stuff, it's predicated on what your type is.
What's my type, Ish?
I think everyone in the world knows your type.
Now we about to have fun.
What's your type? Listen, we about to have fun today.
You have two types now.
Oh.
No, no, no.
Watch this.
Hey, turn me up in the headphones.
All right, there we go.
There we go.
I'm loud.
I'm loud now.
Yeah, I know.
We a mature pod.
Let's do it.
All right, so your favorite type is about five.
I haven't said a word.
You said what's your type?
Five, five, 175 to 190.
Voluptuous.
Uber voluptuous.
Extreme.
Bodacious.
The right amount of cellulite. You like all that. Yeah. As would be present on a super voluptuous. Extreme. Bodacious. The right amount of cellulite.
You like all that.
Yeah.
As would be present on a super voluptuous woman.
Indeed.
Right?
Indeed.
So, again, I know Ice's type.
I know people's types.
I know Corey's type.
What's Corey's type?
This is great.
Yo, having potters here that really don't know about potting
is awesome
it's back to like honesty
what's Corey's type?
Corey is the
I don't know Corey's type
model-esque type
I don't care about Corey
Corey
I don't care enough about Corey
listen to this
back to me
because I'm a narcissist
oh wait wait
I didn't finish
you've kind of drifted in the last couple years to the slimmer.
Yeah.
You started swerving in our lane, nigga.
Say it.
No, no, no, no, no.
I think Kalen started your slim talk.
He's speaking facts.
He's speaking facts.
I'm not lying.
It's all true.
He's naming names.
I'm naming names that people don't know about. Okay, so listen to what he just said. No, I'm not saying all true. He's naming names. I'm naming names that people don't know about.
Okay, so listen to what he just said.
No, I'm saying that's-
He just said, yo, you love super thick voluptuous, uber thick women, and now you like skinny ones too.
No, no, no.
So I don't have a type.
No, that's not true.
That's not true.
So what's the type?
He's absolutely right that you have, your type has, you've developed a second type.
You've opened up to-
A second type.
Yeah.
It's not all types. it's not all types so if i like
another uh woman is that going to be a third type yo there was a time when you and i would go out
and you would say that's the ish chick right there and i would say we wouldn't say because
i know your type exactly and i would say yo i know your type i see one for you your type. Exactly. And I would say, yo. I know your type. I see one for you. Your type ain't changed, buddy. It's still right.
I don't have a type.
That's the thing.
Your type changed a little bit.
It's still a Tiger Woods.
Tiger Woods is going to wear the red shirt, right?
On Sundays.
Again.
I know your type, buddy.
No, I don't have a type.
You don't want to talk about it?
I don't have a type.
Get the fuck out of here.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Come on, man.
Don't lie on your brief stint on this pod.
That's not.
I don't have a type.
Don't misuse the platforms to lie.
Duh.
Any girl, you can name girls that I've dated
or that I was in relationships with
and they do not favor each other at all.
That could be said about all of us.
That don't mean that you don't have a type.
Well, I can't say it because when I was about to say it,
he named a second type.
You can have a type. You can have a type.
You can have two types.
And venture out a little bit and still have a type, though.
You can have two types. You got a type.
And we're talking about just physicality only.
I like super thick women and now
in recent years, I've grown an appreciation
for slimmer women.
So then what is the type is what I'm
asking y'all. You just named it.
Super thick women. That's all the types.
That's not all the types.
No, it's not.
What's the rest of the types?
There's an in between.
Tell me the rest.
Tall, skinny.
Oh, looking at them dicks.
Tall, skinny.
That's not true.
You thought the model-y girls.
I'm joking.
That's not your type.
I'm kidding.
The model-y type, that's not you.
No, that's not you.
What's the other types, though? I want to hear them from y'all. Short, not good. You can be all there. I'm kidding The bodily type That's not you No that's not you What's the other types though
I want to hear them from y'all
Short
I'm good
Tell me
Alright forget it
He's trying to sit me up
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
We know not to do that
Yes sir
Yes sir
Good energy
Goodbye
We ready
Yeah Yeah Hey Don't try to put me up Good energy, good vibes, we are the best!
Yeah, hey, don't try to put me up against the corner, buddy.
I'm here to talk about it.
I'm taking care of business.
Woman, can't you see?
I gotta make it for you.
Yo, shout out to everybody listening all over the world.
Shout out to the first and last time listeners.
Good energy, good vibrations, frequencies high.
We going in the summertime.
It's beautiful in New York.
I'm not playing with niggas.
It's him.
Me, nigga.
It's him today. I got a job, baby.
I got a job, baby.
All the types. I still want to hit all the types.
I still want to hit all the types.
Especially now you got the fitness type.
Like you got all these different types of women.
That's true.
Yo, before we go any further, right?
I want to shout out to the fans.
I would like to thank the fans.
I would like to say that I really appreciate the fans.
No need to really identify who's who and what's what.
If it don't apply, let it fly.
But man, I appreciate you guys.
This is my appreciation song.
I'm old, I know.
Some of y'all in Jersey City know what I used to do in Alberts when this came on.
What you do?
Was you in Alberts? No. Yo, it's just much older than me. What was you doing in Peppermint Lounge?
Peppermint Lounge.
Hey!
Shout out to the first and last time listeners Shout out to everybody just trying to get by like Talib
Shout out to Talib
Hey
Let it go
If you don't apply let it fly
Listen we gearing up it's getting hot outside I don't know how to be
It's been a while
I'm no longer just going in the closet
Looking for the black sweats and the black tea
I'm looking for colors now
We here now, what's up?
What's up?
I'm hitting some of the secret strip club spots
Yo, what's good tonight?
What's that shit like? What's that shit like?
I ain't been yet.
Oh, okay.
I have not been yet.
But I'm hitting them.
The curiosity is there.
I got a Vax now, so I'm like, you know what I mean?
I might be down to roll.
I got Vax now.
Listen, Thursday.
Big Vax energy, big Vax energy.
Big Vax.
I'm about to stop talking to y'all.
I don't wanna have a conversation with you guys.
Last song and I'm gonna stop talking to y'all. I don't wanna have a conversation with you, man.
Last song and I'm done.
Last song and I'm done.
We got shit to get to.
We got shit to talk about.
Say, Vaughn, give me the smoothie with the plastic still over it.
It's cool.
Don't worry about it.
I'm coming in here to celebrate.
Can't find a new Escalade anywhere.
I'm looking for it.
You got to connect.
Hit me up.
You heard?
Huh?
I got to connect.
I'm just talking shit.
Just, just, just.
I don't know if now that's the wisest purchase.
I'm just, I mean.
It's nice, though.
It's nice. It's nice.
Oh, my God.
No, it's nice, boys.
So why is it not a wise purchase?
Oh, well, my two co-hosts left don't know the state of the business.
I had too much fun and time for us to get there, bro.
I know.
We out, though.
Mic check, mic check.
Mic check, one, two, one, two.
Mic check, one, two, one, two.
I'm Schistus Glee.
Microphone check.
One, two.
What is this?
The J.B.P. shit.
Still none of your business.
Hit a gunshot one time for Big Pop in heaven.
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that? How about that? I don't
have the fucking time for it.
I'm better than Deshaun Watson right now.
Yeah. I'll say that.
I had a pretty good weekend. I was chilling.
Alright. I'm vaxxed up
so we got some food out in the real world.
Tried to go to a bar, but they closed at 11, so it didn't work out.
You can't get a half-day.
You took your mask off?
Fuck yeah.
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You already know the vibes.
The news this morning said that crime, and I have a blast watching the news,
and sometimes things are funny that shouldn't be funny.
The news said that-
The news is never funny.
Yeah.
I think it's funny sometimes.
It's the most depressing shit in the world. It's either really depressing or be funny. The news said The news is never funny. I think it's funny sometimes. It's the most depressing shit in the world.
It's either really depressing or really
funny. But this morning they said that
crime this
week is
up considerably
from the same time
last year.
You don't say. I laughed for
at least 25 minutes in my
room. I did.
Why would that be?
The news is just funny how they frame things.
That's a stupid statistic.
Well, that's what they said.
Okay.
Then they said that vaccinations are now allowed in New York for people that are 30 plus.
So that's cool.
Let me hit a round of applause for-
Vax Energy.
South says 30, you know.
Parks is big Vax Energy. Ice Ice you can't wait to get Vax
two days
Ish where do you stand on this Vax stuff
did you get COVID at all
I did
you might not need it
let's dig into this here
so you got COVID
and you're still against the Vax
can you please speak into the microphone, sir?
Yeah, I am against the vax.
I'm against the vax.
You're asking why?
Yeah, just give it to me.
It's too new.
It's nowhere near tried and tested.
Well, you think it's the beta version that's out, okay.
Yeah, like, again, we rushed to get a vaccine Test it. Well, you think it's the beta version. It's out. Okay. Yeah.
Like, again, we've rushed to get a vaccine for something that was killing a whole bunch of people.
So I understand the urgency.
However, I'm not being a guinea pig.
And that's literally what they skipped.
They skipped the monkey trials.
They skipped the guinea pig trials and jumped straight to people.
I'm cool.
I'll pass.
But what if they didn't skip those?
What if they did try it on animals, pigs?
No, they said that they did not.
I get what Ish is saying.
They said that they did not.
I do understand that.
They publicly said they haven't had time to check the long-term effects of this.
Oh, sure.
You believe what they say in the public?
When I went to get one of my more recent COVID tests, the person administering it, I mean, I probably shouldn't say this, but they basically told me, yo, man, some of the trials for the vax, they've been running it on blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And limb has been falling off.
It's been nasty shit.
So they got some more, a little more ways to go.
So, I mean, I say that to say they tested it somewhere, right?
Yeah.
No, they have volunteers. Like they were paying people to come. Hundreds, I mean, I say that to say they tested it somewhere, right? Yeah, no, they had volunteers.
Like, they were paying people to come.
Hundreds of thousands of people. I'm pretty sure
they were paying people to do it.
Yeah, again, Brazil, motherfuckers was dropping
like flies. Norway, motherfuckers was dropping
like flies. I'm cool.
So, again, the normal vaccine
from what I've read and what I've heard,
the normal vaccine takes about
four years to develop. We did it in nine months well that's because the technology for the vaccine was
already there it had to be tweaked for this particular strain of coronavirus
oh wow you think yeah i kind of do so watch this so now also in that, glad that you brought up the strains of coronavirus.
Now it's 17 new strains.
99 new strains.
Which means that the vaccine isn't even as...
The efficacy rate of the vaccine is bullshit.
Let me ask you one question.
What's your stance on the flu shot?
I never took a flu shot in my life.
Polio vaccine?
What, Michael Paul said it, I'm asking. Have you been vaccinated for polio? I think we all have. on the flu shot. I never took a flu shot in my life. Polio vaccine? What?
Michael Paul said it.
I'm asking.
Have you been vaccinated
for polio?
I think we all have.
We all have.
Measles?
Chicken pox?
We all have.
So then what is your argument?
What's your argument there then
for taking some
of the other vaccinations
and being so against this one?
That's my first argument.
And again,
my very first stance was
this one is not tried and true.
This one has not been tested as much as others. Here's my second.
My second point to you is and it's awesome that, you know, Americans believe that free thought is a thing.
Corey and I have had these conversations a bunch as far as vaccination.
We're like, OK, are you taking the vaccine?
Says, fuck, no. I say, fuck, no.
A week later, a report comes out that says, hey, you can't get your passport updated unless you are vaccinated. You can't get your license renewed unless you are vaccinated.
You can't fly places unless you are vaccinated.
Just that fast. Free thought disappeared.
I agree. Just that fast. It's up.
Maybe I'll do it if you're leveraging those things against me.
You, as someone who travels often, what do you do when they say,
unless you are vaccinated, you are stricken to America and America only?
Serious question.
Now, on the record, I'm from the hood, man.
We circumvent things.
I'm just telling you. i'm just yo how much that cost i'm dead i'm serious that's my stance until they show
you are almost i'm 45 years old i'm 45 almost 50 years old. You look great. You asked me a question. You're a beautiful guy.
You're not going to be that guy.
And Corey's almost 50 years old, too,
and he definitely faked the vaccination test to go to the Knit game.
Listen to the snitch rat bastard.
Allegedly.
Damn, bro.
Some people think.
Some people think.
But look where we've gotten into
and trust me I didn't expect to open up
with big vax talk
that's unfortunate that we have to now go to
what do you mean we you're the unfortunate nigga
no I'm saying we collectively
it ain't we I'm going to get vaccinated
I'm getting a card
I'm pulling my shit out
unfortunately we
people have come to a place
where we have to now
think outside the box
to circumvent some shit
that the government
is trying to force us to do
for our own rights
and freedoms.
What are you making
a face for?
Shut up.
I can't go to the Nick game
unless I get vaccinated.
What the fuck?
Yes.
Yeah.
You sound stupid.
Wait.
How?
But think about it.
Kids can't go to school if they're not vaccinated.
No, that's not true.
That's not true.
That's not true.
That you can't.
That's not true.
Would you vaccinate your son?
Would you vaccinate your daughter?
Would you vaccinate your daughter?
Yes.
No, I was totally against vaccinating my daughter.
My baby already got shots.
I was totally against vaccinating my daughter.
She just got her last round on February 17th.
I was totally against vaccinating my son of any sort.
And I didn't want to have the argument with his mom.
Exactly.
So I folded.
Yeah.
But she never came to me to try to discuss my views on it.
Nor did she ever take the time to try to understand my views on that.
And I'm not sure that culturally she would have even understood some of my views on it.
I want you to be.
I want you to expound on why, though.
Why are you so gung ho for the COVID vaccine, but you are against vaccinating Lex?
Same rules apply.
Not true for me.
By all means.
I've had COVID.
Okay.
So I've gone to bed and felt like, okay, this might be it.
Damn, shit ain't in order for this to be it.
I thought I had another few more.
Not like this.
Yo, once the finality hits, that's what I was just telling y'all outside.
Like, hey, we could all say, yo, we're going to die one day.
We're going to die.
But when you get to the day, it's it's like damn did i do this life thing the
way it was supposed to be done so i've had those thoughts let me get into it okay i've never had
the flu and felt that way i've never had polio and felt that way wingworm whatever the things
are that you get hopefully i've never had those things knock on wood cool but covid yes so it puts my belief system at an interesting point
which is my parents and i've talked to cory about this my parents i want them to rush out and get
that covid test they're at the age where i'm not gonna play like that you mean vaccine i mean i
mean i'm sorry the vaccine they're at the age where i'm not gonna play like that at my age
i might still play like that,
but if you're telling me I can't fly,
I can't go to the Knicks game,
I can't do all of that, cool, I won't.
My son, my youngest born,
is young enough for me to apply
all of the natural immune system stuff to
in the event that I didn't trust anything
about the government or vaccines,
which at my core belief system exists.
So just how fast do you see how I have a different point of view for all the
people that I love?
My oldest son,
I would want him to get it.
I got to tell you this,
all the CMOS in the world ain't going to stop that polio.
No.
Or that measles.
That's what I was saying.
Now you should eat healthy and do all that shit
and take all them supplements but certain shit ain't gonna cut it listen when i talk to my
cousin who's aren't gonna kill you when i speak to my cousin who is a doctor huh children when i
speak to my cousin who is a doctor and he reminds me that i have had covid and have almost i think
my dad has had COVID felt like he was
almost out of here
my cousin's position is
how could you argue
against modern medicine
I have a
I have an answer for that
answer it
and let's move on to something fun
alright cool
when people sell pharmaceuticals
right
the pharmaceutical rep
comes in
tells the doctor
whatever they tell them
right I'm tells the doctor whatever they tell them.
I'm listening.
The doctor that is now
basically a carrier
of information tells you what
the pharmaceutical rep told them.
I'm listening.
So what stops...
Let me backtrack.
I'm sorry. Let me give you an example.
Johnson & Johnson for years has been saying
X, Y, and Z right
now we now find that products of Johnson and Johnson
they didn't tell us they were selling cancer
this is my point
this is my point right so Johnson and Johnson
has been pushing products for years that doctors
didn't mind pushing fuck the
Johnson and Johnson we grew up
in an era where milk does a body good
and that's wrong it was pushed our whole entire existence Fuck the Johnson & Johnson. We grew up in an era where milk does a body good.
And that's wrong.
It was pushed our whole entire existence.
Milk does a body good.
By the government, by the FDA, by everybody that we are supposed to trust.
Milk is bullshit for you.
And we all know that now.
We've also been raised on soul food.
They won't tell us really how bad that is for us as well. This is true. So my thing, but soul food is your grandmother.
Soul food is not the government.
Soul food is not the FDA.
That shit bad for you.
Says you.
I love it, but it's bad for you.
Says you.
I mean, I don't know where the idea of chitlins came from back in slave day.
We do know.
We know.
We do know.
But again, these are not government agencies to whom we place our faith in
to have our best...
If all we could get is aftermarket
intestines of animals because that's
all we're privy to, then that is
the government I'm arguing. That ain't my grandma.
No, that's not the government.
That's not the government.
I get it.
I get what he's saying.
You said if all we're privy to is chitlins from a slave master, once they cut the pig,
his intestines are laying on the ground.
We picked them up, seasoned them, cooked them, and ate them.
Yo, was that...
Was that...
Wait, hold on.
Let me tell you a story.
I don't know if this was you I was talking to.
Was this somebody me and Corey was talking to?
I don't remember who this person was that was telling this story.
This is regurgitated, but I'll give it to you. It might have
been you, but it can't be you if you have this stance.
Somebody from down south,
they family, great grandma
or somebody, went
to the supermarket
to, back in the day
they used to put the
pigs on the line and you had
to pick the pig.
Do you remember who told the story? You had to pick the pig okay right do you remember who told the story you had
to pick the pig it wasn't me but all right got it i'm listening they had the pigs on the line and
you had to pick the pig back in the day to pick what you wanted right and then they would go and
chop it up or do whatever they had to do and when they would do this they would take this they would
take the inside and it was this long rod that they would throw to the side every time
and the guy's great grandma said yo man what you doing with that and they said we're throwing it
to the side this is such and such it's a waste there's blah blah blah and the guy's great grandma
said no give it to me give it to me and now check the price of oxtail today true so that's what i'm saying here
do you follow how that is relative here at all but i don't see how that makes your stance that
the government was responsible for black people eating i'm saying we i'm saying we're going to
take what we can get and make magic out of it that's what we unfortunately we're not able to get but so much
and that is government restricted that's not from anywhere else that's them taking the farm the farms
from us i agree but that's them changing the farming laws on us that's just changing the
factory laws on us it's them feeding the dirt different listen somebody told me when i went to
mercedes i would they was taking a long time in my car. I went out to smoke a cigarette.
I came back.
He said, I used to work in Virginia.
If I showed you how a cigarette was made, you'd never smoke it again.
I said, tell me more.
He said, I was on the farmland.
All they did is take all of the intestines and shit that nobody wants from the inside of the animal and soil it up and roll it up and i said oh my god
oh my god oh wow wait a minute wait a second buddy so you smoking some wild shit we all are
smoking some wild shit ice is the reason why and we 24 minutes is the reason why there's no cigarette
commercials but again this is my overall point at one point in time the fda approved it so what
the fbi and the cia and all that other shit so why are you telling me about what they approve
hey i cut them niggas a check and they'll approve something you're right so now what the fuck stops
in 20 years the same way they saying milk does a body good 20 years ago and they telling us to go
get covet stamped what stops in 20 years nigga and they telling us to go get COVID stamped
what stops in 20 years
niggas saying
you know what
we fucked up
if you took the COVID-19 vaccine
you could be entitled
to a huge lump sum of money
what stops that
I don't trust these bastards
alright then
nothing stops that
it might happen
that's my reservation
for not taking it
he's gonna be dead
shut up
wait what the fuck is he talking about no again you don't get to have Yeah, it might happen. That's my reservation for not taking it. He's going to be dead. Shut up.
Wait, what the fuck is he talking about?
No, again.
You don't get to have that reservation.
You?
I'm 45, nigga. You got a max 50 years left.
Okay.
What's your point?
I don't understand.
I said 20 years, bastard.
I didn't say 50.
Next topic.
Hey, man.
I think anybody who doesn't want to get the vaccine, cool, man.
Do what you want to do with your body.
All right.
That's how I feel.
No, I agree.
I am getting my shit because I need to.
My point in saying that.
My life is different.
My point in saying that was, and I could be wrong.
This could be applicable to you.
But the next generation is always privy to more information than we were.
Indeed.
Like, listen, when the microwave first came out, I remember having a blast.
When we could afford to get a microwave, it was awesome.
It wasn't until 25 years after the fact that they said,
oh, this is how that food's getting hot in there.
And I was like, oh, come on.
Come on.
Like, that's fucked up.
Now you want me to not use the microwave.
Don't stand in front of it.
Parks didn't have a microwave for mad years.
Listen, chicken wings.
I was broke.
Chinese joint.
I'm there.
It wasn't until 25
years later when it was like yo man what's happening to cats
what the fuck forget it come on let's move on forget it let's move on
that's what they said that's what they said that's what they said. That's what they said. That's what they said. See, and know what's funny about that?
Look how the whole room laughed.
Because that's funny.
You can't get a chicken wing from a cat.
But if somebody tells you at 15 to 16 years old that they're killing cats in back of the Chinese food and putting it in your shrimp fried rice, you will do more investigating.
No, your chicken fried rice.
I might not. Beef fried rice. I might not. No, your chicken fried rice. I might not.
The fried rice.
I might not.
I'm going to be honest.
I might not.
And in your further investigation,
you would see,
whatever it is,
it's good.
Chickens, blah, blah, blah.
I just watched the doc on Netflix
the other day
that I shouldn't have been watching
when I was bored.
It was about the sea.
Oh, I heard that shit.
It was about the sea.
I heard it's dope.
No, it's great so
informative boy you feel bad when you see what they're doing to the sharks when you see what
they're doing to the whales cutting the fins hong kong blah blah blah blah blah like it's
fucked up out there but that's what it is i agree they're showing you a they're showing you in hong
kong them going to the spots where they're selling the shark fins and they're following the chain of shit.
They're like,
yo, cut camera.
Cut camera.
No, no record.
Cut camera.
Yeah.
They had to go to the spy shop.
Shut up, nigga.
You stop telling me
what I can and can't say.
God damn it.
Just bleep it out.
Sitting there all fucking
uncomfortable,
you and Rory.
Enough of this.
Listen.
They had to go
to the spy shop
and get a special camera
so they could film
what was actually happening.
Oh, like some little
secret shit.
Yeah.
So I say that to say,
yeah, it's funny.
You can't get a chicken
wing out of cats.
But if you did,
I ain't mad at it.
But when you see something
that makes you
investigate further.
I gotta be honest.
Come on,
let's talk about some fuck shit.
Let's talk about some fuck shit.
There's some fuck shit
on your screen right there
you niggas gotta stay
out of elevators man
oh shit
alright
I don't know what
I don't know what to say here
is this breaking news
yeah
this is breaking news
this story is all
over the place
I know a few of the people
involved i'll try to speak about it respectfully of course no pun intended seems to be a lot of
aftermath from the sweetie appearance on the respectfully justin show on revolt with justin
laboy that seems to have spawned a breakup between quavo and sweetie which seems to have spawned a breakup between Quavo and Sweetie which seems to have birthed
them both giving their respective
sides of things. And
in that, we're getting conversations
leaked and we're getting footage
now leaked of an altercation
between Quavo and Sweetie
inside of an elevator. I haven't
seen this footage. I haven't
seen it. If there's something
domestic that happened here, I apologize. I haven't seen it to there's something domestic that happened here i apologize
i haven't seen it to speak on it i don't know what's inbounds or out of bounds yet but that
is what is going on this looks bad there are rumors swirling that there was an altercation
in atlanta between justin the boy and either migosigos. Or Migos affiliates.
I would use this time.
As a salacious moment.
To call Justin the boy myself. To find out.
But that wouldn't tell me anything.
I did reach out to Justin the boy.
To say hey are you good.
He said yes sir.
That didn't tell me anything. What are you supposed to say. That didn't tell me anything.
What are you supposed to say?
That didn't tell me anything.
They put foot to ass.
That told me that he was good.
On the way here, Ice shows me a video of Quavius posting something that said,
sometimes things have to get straightened out.
A little straightening.
A little straightening is all it was.
Yeah, but this elevator scene don't look like a good straightening. A little straightening is all it was. Yeah, but this elevator scene
don't look like a good straightening.
No, I don't think it was about that.
Okay.
No, I think the straightening
was...
Caption was toward
the Justin stuff.
That right there.
Sometimes.
Don't none get straightened
but straightened.
Don't none get straightened
but straightened
is what he said.
I think that's cryptic,
but I understand what he's saying
and where he's
going with that i get it i'm not now react how do we feel about this well which part because
there's a lot of shit going on how do you feel about any of what's going on what what did justin
laboy do that was worth straightening i agree with that i don't know i'm asking i don't know
he might have been curly and needed his ass straightened out.
I don't know.
I'm saying what- It's Justin Laboy's show that Sweetie featured on with her ex, allegedly.
Right.
But why does that mean-
That got things a little saucy.
Why does that mean you got to beat up Justin Laboy, though?
Why don't you?
See?
Because you in a relationship.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Why don't you?
You go to your fiance and say, yo, I don't want you to do this show with your ex.
She wants to do it.
Okay.
That's an argument in the house.
Of course.
Indeed.
So what do you mean?
I don't understand what you mean.
So why are you beating up Justin LeBron?
He is the boy he hit his ass with.
Oh, wait.
Okay.
Oh, that's what you said.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
So she did the show.
Unless there was something that happened behind the scenes or something.
Well, let's talk about it.
You did the show.
And now you know that I am her significant other.
And what if I feel like your line of questioning might have been misleading, inappropriate,
disrespectful.
You was playing.
Disrespectful.
You was playing.
You was doing a lot.
You was playing with me.
Wait, cool.
That's how I felt there. Then she leftful. You was playing. You was doing a lot. You was playing with me. Wait, cool. That's how I felt there.
Then she left.
The show was over.
Rumors of our breakup
went out.
You've been getting saucy
on your Instagram
about our breakup,
my role in it.
You posting the memes.
You having a blast.
You did a whole
fucking media rollout.
I don't follow them.
You do the press run.
You're doing the press run.
He made a lot of posts. Well, you get straightened up.. You do the press run. You're doing the press run. He made a lot of posts.
Well, you get straightened out.
He has a show, so he should be doing a press run.
He has a brand new show that's a hit.
Okay.
Was he talking to Drake?
The show has done half a million, a million both times out.
The show is a smash.
Was he talking crazy about Quavo during any of that?
Well, who are you asking?
He just said he was making a bunch of memes if you're asking quavo
if you're asking quavo then the answer is yes in my song only human there was a dude
in the third verse running around with something some old work of mine he was getting extra with
it i wanted to do something to him not because i wanted her he was just real extra with it this was real extra
if you're a man and you've been in this spot i don't see how you don't understand his position
i get it no no no again i didn't know what had transpired well now that you know where do you
stand again if he was talking slick he needed some straightened out if you were making a joke
out of my situation my breakup my cetera. And you are being disrespectful.
You handle what comes along with that.
Even before that, you're sitting here, you're allowing a question.
You know, that's my girl.
You know, you know.
How can I say?
It's do's and don'ts.
It's do's and don'ts.
It's do's and don'ts.
There we go.
And when you cross that line, then you handle what comes along.
You have to deal with that.
You got to deal with what comes along.
Now, but my stance on that is, let's just say hypothetically, I've always had this stance.
If I catch my girl coming out the hotel with the dude, I don't know the dude.
Okay.
I'm not fighting the dude.
Yes, you are.
I promise you I'm not.
I was when I was 18 years old, but as a grown man, I'm not fighting the dude. Wait, wait, you are. Yes, you are. I fought the dude when I was like 18 years old. But as a grown man, I'm not fighting the dude.
I'm not fighting the dude.
I have the girl.
Wait, wait.
Time out.
You have fought the dude.
I have never fought the dude.
You have been in this exact situation.
And nothing happened to the dude.
Not one thing.
I looked at the nigga.
Why?
He said he didn't have no problems.
He didn't want no problems.
But what if he was with you?
So that's a fucking contradiction.
What are you talking about?
No, no, no.
Listen to the dude and fight the dude.
It's different.
No, no, listen to the dude.
Oh, come on.
No, that's not true.
No, because the only difference is the dude's bad.
Let me hear it.
Let me hear it.
Let me hear it.
Let me hear it.
If I catch my girl coming out the hotel.
You know, if you was there and I was there.
You weren't there.
But if I catch my girl coming out the hotel.
You asked me to pull up.
It wasn't to talk to her.
Hey, you asked me to pull up. Where does he come up with these thoughts? You asked me to pull up. It wasn't to talk to her. Hey, you asked me to pull up.
Yo, where's he come up with these thoughts?
You asked me to pull up, and it wasn't to speak to her.
Man, you come up with the fabrication.
Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Let me finish my story.
No, I'm not going to let you lie.
Let him finish the story.
And we was in a strip club.
Let him finish.
Oh, I forgot that time.
Tell us all this.
What did I do?
Get your shit on.
No, I didn't do nothing.
Speak to him.
All right, so watch this.
If I catch my girl Yes
Coming out of a hotel
With a dude
I don't have a problem
With the dude
If I don't know him
Now if I know you
That's a situation
If I don't know you
You have not done
Anything disrespectful
To me at all
Can I just ask you
One question on that
Shoot
You might not know him
He knows you
He does not
He knows
I'm asking you
He might know
Don't ignore
I want to answer I want to answer Then let it there He might know don't ignore I want to answer
I want to answer
then let it
there
he might know
she has a man
no
I didn't say no
I didn't say that
I didn't say
he knows Ish
yes
he knows
he know
that's Ish Chick
yo I have been
with Ish through this
yo this guy is nuts
I'm asking you to answer
no no no
you can't talk
about the lie
let me lie
let me finish the story.
Let me lie.
Answer my question, though.
Answer my question, please.
No, no.
I don't have a problem with that.
Can I talk?
Can I talk now?
He don't know me.
He don't owe me shit.
Ishmael.
We've all fucked a nigga's wife or girl in this room.
I'm going to ish on this one.
Unless he's like my mans or something like that.
Yeah, like are you crazy?
So watch this.
Can I talk?
No, no.
Let me finish my stance.
I know what it is.
If I'm popping a nigga's girl, I know she got a man.
If you get caught cheating by your man, that's on you.
All right.
Are you crazy?
Let me ask you another question, Ish.
Since you said everyone has popped somebody's girl.
Hey, you know he fucked a lot of nigga's girls.
Yo, do y'all hear him?
He has fucked a lot of nigga's girls.
Yes, you have.
In my life?
Absolutely, I have.
When else will we be talking about this?
I didn't expect us to really get this far into this topic.
We just totally derailed.
Ish, let me talk for two seconds.
You have had this argument because you've spoken to me about this argument.
And I have felt the same.
So I've had this argument in my life as well.
When a girl that we've been intimate with starts fucking with a new dude and now the new dude knows our identity and they keep his secret from us.
That's an issue.
That's a safety issue.
Indeed.
And we, because we real niggas, we say something to the girl.
Yo, man, what the fuck are you doing over there
if i'm in a club and your dude comes out and he knows my face and i don't know his face what took
place you are you you what do you want us to fight oh you're putting yes this is all right so watch
this what he's speaking on happened to me i wasn't even fucking the girl. I hadn't seen the
girl in literally years.
Old work. I hadn't seen her.
I hadn't placed my eyes on her in years.
I don't even know what her dude looks
like. I'm going to do you one worse than whatever he
is saying. The nigga comes up. I don't
even know who you are. The nigga
put his hand out. I'm going to shake the nigga's hand
like, what up, dog? You know
niggas know your face from being in the spot.'m thinking he's one of them i don't know what
version of a story that ish is telling that may be a separate time maybe no you were there that
time in my version you went up to go to the bathroom all you was doing was going to take
a piss yes dude came up to me after after my ass he came up to you after me and him got into our
little rift right they pulled me in a room he then goes up to joe and says yo can i talk to you
outside joe says no no you can't talk to me outside not know who the fuck are you you the
nigga my man is piping your girl guess what i don't even speak to my man about the girls he pipe i don't even really talk to this nigga outside of strip club night
what you want me to say not and if you touch me again i'm gonna do something to you and it's not
for him it's not for my man why i'm here to look at ass so you understand that point of view
the dude's point of view? No, I don't.
Mine too, god damn it. I don't
understand his stance. I totally
disagree with his stance.
So back to this. You disagree
with the Migos possibly kicking
Justin LaVoy ass? No, I don't disagree. If Justin
LaVoy stepped out of pocket and said
some shit he wasn't supposed to say or did
some shit he wasn't supposed to do
or try to ridicule
these niggas in a time of breakup he deserved merry fistmas
i don't follow justin on instagram so i don't know if he's posting his special shit but if they just beat him up for business
that's kind of crazy
exactly
now if you just
beat him up
because your girl
came on the show
talking about
niggas she used to fuck
or whatever the case may be
and you approach him
with that
no
handle that
with your chick
what if he did
handle that
with his chick
and I want to
kick your ass too
just because
I'm still tight
again
if these niggas
did not
Justin LaVas did not,
Justin LaVoy did not disrespect these dudes,
you tight on your own.
Hey, you ever been in love before, Ish?
Yes.
Okay.
The real love too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the real love.
Yeah, the one where you looking yourself in the mirror like,
what the fuck are you doing?
That one.
Okay.
Yeah, that Brian McKnight sitting in the dark by yourself.
All of that, nigga, yes.
Some of our women audience, while we're on the topic, want to know if you have a significant other, one.
And two, if you do, can she fight?
I've seen that question.
That has been a question. No, they really want to know.
They asked me that.
And I'm like, yo, I don't know if his girl can fight.
I can't speak to that.
Maybe you can. I don't know. You just don't have I can't speak to that. Maybe you can.
I don't know.
They still have to answer that question.
I mean, they just don't have to answer that.
That's your lawyer?
All right.
All right.
I advise you to plead the fifth.
I'm supposed to answer if my girl can fight.
Well, really.
What they want to know, are you faithful and can she fight?
Now, I won't tell them.
I don't even know.
I don't even know.
Yo, I don't know if any of my friends are faithful.
I don't know if they're good men.
I don't know any of those things.
Jesus Christ.
No, because people be thinking because you see me with somebody that I know about them.
I can't vouch for these dudes.
I don't know what y'all do.
Fifths all around.
You know I'm a stand-up guy.
Everyone pleading the fifth today.
I like it.
That's a little vice versa with that too, Joe.
What?
You know, as your friend, we catch a lot of hell for shit you do.
That's a big fact.
And it's like.
Oh, y'all was trying to tell me.
That's what was the good topic there.
I don't know if I should save that or what.
Y'all was trying to tell me I changed with money?
Yeah.
Are we serious? Yeah. We said that. You absolutely changed. That to tell me I changed with money? Yeah. Are we serious?
Yeah.
We said that.
You absolutely changed.
That's where we're going right now?
Yeah.
You have admitted that you changed with money.
Let's go into that a different time.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Let's see if we can save that.
Back on that.
Fast on the ass.
I like that verbiage.
What verbiage?
What's that?
Some straightening out niggas' knees.
Yeah.
I'm feeling that.
Some acrobat word.
That's all the same shit.
Niggas' knees are back.
They ain't released that verbiage when one of theirs got straightened out, though.
That's also a good one.
I mean, you wouldn't release that verbiage.
That verbiage is going to look bad when that elevator footage makes its rounds.
When a real one,
a noted real one did some straightening.
Gave them some act right.
This ain't,
meh.
Corey.
Yeah, you don't get points.
You don't get points for that.
I don't know anything about
any of that.
The nigga that gets
any act right,
they not gonna get on
public TV and say,
yeah, I got straightened out.
That's what you talking about.
Yeah, but wait a minute.
But even with what
Corey is saying,
what I like about the Migos
is they'll scrap.
They will.
Yeah, respect that word. You gotta respect that. Who cares about the Migos is they'll scrap. Yeah.
Respect that.
You got to respect that.
Who cares?
You got to respect that.
You'll scrap.
Thank God they spared me.
Thank God Joe was spared the fisticuffs.
Merry fistmas, it says.
Because they got up ready to take them cufflinks off and serve me up.
It was the Versace blouses.
Because of that, they let you slide.
They ain't want to ruffle they feathers.
I thank God about some of the passes I've got.
Thank you, Quavius, and take off.
Yeah, they was on you.
Those my guys, though.
I like that.
They was like ass that day.
That they spared me.
Had an award show, my little white shirt on.
You kidding me?
With our $200 security there.
The fuck we was going to do?
I could have took him.
I could have took our security.
I remember that was the first time
a lot of people saw.
Ag wasn't going to help me.
Nadeska wasn't going to help me.
It was going to be me getting pummeled.
Nah, they'd have got you.
I've been pummeled before though,
but now the nigga
was in some star belts on.
Man, if you get no ass whooping,
those niggas are ready
to tighten you right on up
it's true
yeah
you was gonna get
straightened out
there's another one
that popped up
that was the straightening
look
he got aggressive
with it too
that was the straightening
yeah
you was gonna get
right straightened out
they spared me
thank the lord
what else
what else is happening
that needs our opinion
nothing really needs
our opinion
no not this
don't take me to this
yet get that out of here uh Deshaun Watson y'all wanna get to it look Nothing really needs our opinion. No, not this. Don't take me to this yet.
Deshaun Watson, y'all want to get to?
It look bad.
It look bad.
I don't see what looks bad.
This.
It's bad.
That doesn't look good.
When it was like two, I thought, all right, that's just it.
I don't care if it was 27.
Someone fucking would leverage.
19 people?
Bruh, Deshaun Watson has been touted
for how pristine
his image was,
how good he was,
et cetera, et cetera.
The second he's demanding
a fucking trade,
still nigga.
19.
Still nigga.
19.
Still nigga.
Still a nigga.
That's all I take from that.
It's going to be 29 in a minute.
Probably so.
Yo, the one girl,
the report that I saw,
the girl said,
basically, What's this guy writing? that I saw, the girl said basically.
It's this guy, right?
What?
Hey, and that's what's funny.
He's going to disrupt the pod, then go build a house and not have nothing to do with the pod.
And I got to sit here and deal with somebody's opinions.
No, I'm giving an example.
Let me speak.
Get the shit off.
If he did something inappropriate, right, that is proven, he needs to be punished for it.
Of course.
Right?
What I saw was a whole bunch of innuendo.
Like the one girl says, yo, she was giving him a massage, right?
He got erect and started pumping in the air.
Yeah, you can't do that.
You get a charge for that?
Yes, it is.
No, you don't.
Yes, you do.
You can't pump the air in the massage.
Yo, you are a monster. No, you don't. Yes, you do. You are a monster.
It's not a criminal charge.
Y'all need to be arrested.
Yes, you do.
Coming from the nigga that wears
no drawers and sweatpants
to the strip club.
You can't arrest me for that.
You can't arrest him for opening the end.
I'm going tonight with no drawers on
and some sweats
you cannot arrest Joe
now with that said
Ish
if I get just
if I'm sitting here
we pardon
I just sit up
and start gyrating my hips
in the air
with no music playing
coming on myself
I'm leaving
and you're calling
the police on me
no wait
in this report
he was pumping the air
and busted.
For that alone,
you didn't even get no contact.
Which I do not believe.
He just busted the air
and jerked him off?
Yes.
That's what you're saying.
No, I'm not rolling.
There you go.
I'm sorry.
I'm not rolling.
There you go.
Joe's been to a massage parlor.
I want sponsors and ads.
I don't believe you.
At some point,
you have to play
the advertising game.
These takes are not
getting it, dude.
There's award shows
coming.
Yeah.
This shit,
we need in on, man.
Are we not potting that?
Oh, my God.
Y'all doing too much
fucking potting,
novices.
You can't come on
here and just be
talking about it.
That's what happens when you bring us on here can't come on here and just be honest
about your
opinion
yo the pot is
gonna go on
he's gonna be
off building
houses
we gonna get
shut down
yo all right
you've been to
a massage parlor
I have
ice have you
yes
I have
parks have you
of course
savon have you
and updated to masseuse.
Alright, Parks, you're different.
Do some stuff.
Do some stuff.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
She coming home.
You better shut your mouth she coming home you better shut your white mouth
okay
and you were saying
you dated in a suit
yeah I know that they
encounter a bunch of
creepy activity
all the fucking time
I'm sure
now
if I'm siding with Parks
which on half of this I am
I know women
that have gone to
massage parlors and been sexually abused and assaulted.
And they live with that.
I'm sure.
That's a regular thing.
I'm sure.
I'm sure.
That shit comes up a lot.
So when the Deshaun Watson stuff comes up, granted, no one is saying that those things happened where you forced yourself on someone, right?
I don't have it right there.
There has been a couple accusations
that he tried to force them
to perform oral sex or whatever.
Okay.
Forced them to push their head down.
Some shit like that, I guess.
Allegedly.
I don't, you know, this is all.
I'm just, yeah, I get it.
After 90 minutes,
Watson asked to extend his session
for another hour.
Please speak into the microphone, sir.
She continued to work only his quads and her thighs.
Oh, this is what I read.
Now, this is the young lady.
Let me brief the audience.
This is a young lady that is-
You're rubbing on his thighs.
Hold up, hold up, hold up.
Oh, you can't.
We're blocking all of you.
It's fucking crazy.
Ish, let me talk for a minute.
Let me talk for a minute.
The young lady that's given
this that's giving this testimony on sports illustrated is not a part of the lawsuit
she is not suing as of today and sports illustrated has gone out of their way in attempt to corroborate, vet her story, and
validify it.
They even document such
as they go on.
Quick question.
She says...
Hold on, quick question.
How did they find her
if she's not a part of the lawsuit?
Like, did she reach out to them?
Or...
Like, how does sports illustrate
finding this person?
They've been in touch with her
before any of this
Deshaun Watson stuff
even broke
for whatever the reason be.
I think she said that she is a massage therapist for pro athletes as a career.
I guess her shit.
Okay.
She is a massage therapist.
Got it.
She runs her own business, has her own massage parlor in Houston.
The name of that parlor and her name have been withheld
for anonymity purposes, of course.
She goes on to say that
she has a contract with a third-party masseuse
that the masseuse will send people over to her.
She does the massage.
They take the cut.
Blah, blah, blah.
You've seen this movie before.
She said it's typical
that she finds out who these people are 15 minutes before the massage.
That's totally normal.
Sound about right.
She said Deshaun Watson came with rules such as he needs to be brought up to her back door, one, and two, instead of the standard sheet.
He preferred a towel.
According to her and Sports Illustrated, that's the same testimony of many of the victims is that he didn't want the sheet.
You know, the sheet that they give us.
He wanted a towel.
Now, as soon as I read that, I imagine because I've been there, a towel in there.
Listen, your dick gets hard.
Your dick gets hard.
There's nothing wrong with your dick getting hard.
there's nothing wrong with your dick getting hard there is something
wrong when you invite the person to touch it
move it work around it
speak to it that's not what you're
there for I imagine that
if your dick is hard and you don't have
a bath
sheet like if you're dealing with a
towel right it's not
much wiggle room your dick will be
exposed at some point I imagine
that so this I see where this could get really creepy it's not much wiggle room. Your dick will be exposed at some point. I imagine that.
So this,
I see where this could get really creepy.
Or could get gray.
I told you.
So now he's laying on his back as is her testimony.
At some point he removes the towel,
says it's itching him.
And he's asking her to work around his penis bear.
This is not like anything she's used to.
She continues,
because who fucking knows when you're in that spot.
Yeah, yeah.
And now you have many women that are making the claim of
you get in the massage parlor and start going crazy.
You can't go crazy in the massage parlor.
I concur.
It's also kind of weird that he's had like,
however many, 19 different masseuses at this point. That's kind of excessive. This same chick.'s also kind of weird that he's had like however many 19 different masseuses
at this point that's kind of excessive this same chick that's that's kind of weird look no this
same chick said that he he hit her up again right and he totally forgot yes she said that he had
seen her before two more times after that this had transpired with her he totally forgot yeah so they
said that he either gets a shitload of massages and that's his thing.
Well, that's a pretty normal thing I would imagine for a pro athlete.
But she said that basically she had to send him a clip of a conversation that they had
to remind him that he had seen her before.
And then she said he just stopped hitting the brush.
See, that's weird.
Yeah, that's very weird.
That sounds like shit she know. Having 20-something different masseuses. She not with the fuck shit, so I'm going to See, that's weird. Yeah, that's very weird. That sounds like, oh shit, she know.
Having 20-something different masseuses.
She not with the fuck shit,
so I'm going to highlight somebody else.
Yeah.
It's possible.
Yeah.
If all of this is true,
and at this point,
I'm going to assume that it is
because I believe women.
But if all of this is true,
my issue is not only with Deshaun Watson
and his behavior, but it's with all of the people that were complicit in suppressing this. Yeah, my issue is not only with Deshaun Watson and his behavior,
but it's with all of the people that were complicit in suppressing this.
Yeah, that's what I was saying before.
Because if this existed, then it existed and some people knew.
And when he's tried to buck the system, we unleash the foul.
And that's what I think happened.
And I have an issue with all parties involved.
That's what I said.
To me, this is the organization.
I agree.
While when we love you,
we'll protect you.
We're going to protect you.
And the second that you want to break,
you can't.
Exactly.
We got to remind you who you are.
Still there.
Stay in your place, boy.
That is true.
Oh, you think you can beat the system?
Let me show you something.
All that shit we held on you,
now we throw it out there.
Which would make the organization,
in my mind,
maybe not equally nasty,
but nasty in their own right
if not more yeah i'd say more not more i'd say more because of it oh go ahead i'm sorry it's
the same thing as when um you find out when they killed joe paterno on a knowing about his man
exactly look or look police brutality right and so um there'll be instances like it was one in bloomfield
where uh these cops snatched this kid out of a car they beat him up and they lied on a report
saying that he tried to grab their gun that he punched one of them etc etc they had two pieces
of footage it was two cars right for like a year and some change the boy was about to do a seven
seven with a five or seven with a three. He was about to go to jail.
A reporter, Snoop and Snoop and Snoop,
found the original footage from one of the other carcass cams
and brought it forward.
In my opinion...
I wonder if that's what they based the Light for Life episode on.
No, the chief of police, all of them need to be fired.
I'm not caught up on that.
All of them need to be fired, in my opinion.
Not just the cops that conducted the act.
Everybody that
played a role
in covering it up.
It went to
Eternal Affairs twice.
Eternal Affairs twice.
They don't do shit.
And they
exonerated the cops
of any wrongdoing, right?
Of course.
So when it finally
hit the fan,
everybody involved
needs to go to jail.
While we're here,
let me ask you guys.
I got a point on that.
Well, go ahead before I take this off. Why I say the organization,
you know, if they were doing that
cover-up shit, should be
held responsible and probably
even worse than him because
you might not get to 19 people
if they step in as soon
as they find out. That's my point.
That's true. I still think that the
person committing the crime
is still nastier than the people covering it up.
But if this is brought to their attention
and they conduct an investigation,
rather than this is our star, we're going to hide this,
you just protected 18 other people.
Right.
Or however many other people.
Instead, you hide it, you allow him to keep doing it.
Yeah.
That's a bigger problem.
It's not nastier if the people covering it up
make it possible for the crime to be committed.
You said what? Is that a question or a statement?
No, it's a statement. It's not nastier.
You said it's nastier the person
committing the crime. I think the person that's
committing the crime is still the nastiest person
in the equation. And I agree with Ice.
I think they're equal.
Not if the person that's covering up is enabling the person to commit the equation. And I agree with Ice. I think they're equal. Not if the person that's covering up
is enabling
the person to commit the crime.
They can stop that. Yeah.
An addict is
an addict. An addict is going to addict no matter
what you try to do. If they're not ready to submit
and they haven't hit their rock bottom, an addict
is going to addict the end of that. Now,
the person that is
enabling that person,
yeah. I'm not
the moral police, but... Me either.
It's just two ways of looking at it.
I think that the main guy.
But carry on. While we're here,
what do you stand on Cuomo? And just real
quick. I have not
kept up with that story. In what regards?
Cuomo, same thing as Des sean watson uh a bunch of similar yeah again like powerful man beef beefed with trump allegations
came out they want him to step down true or not he has to step down true or not he has to step
down it don't even matter and that and that unfortunate. Now, again, even in Deshaun's instance,
I want to be clear in saying
if he did violate somebody
at any given time,
he deserves to be held
accountable for that.
Of course.
And punished for that, right?
However,
we've seen this fold out
a bunch of different times, right?
Same thing with Cuomo.
He was the,
last year,
they were talking about
Cuomo for president.
Like,
he was the best shit
since sliced bread last year.
He was the star politician
of Toy Story.
That I remember.
Right?
And so now,
all of a sudden,
you might have crossed
the wrong motherfucker.
Right?
And now,
cool,
whatever dirt we,
hmm?
If either one of these
gentlemen are guilty, arrest these heathens, get them off the street
and remove them from position.
I agree.
Plenty of times I've gone in the masseuse parlor horny.
You can't just gyrate your hips in the air and jerk your dick and come on your stomach
and expect the person to work on you.
I'm sorry.
You're a weirdo.
Yeah.
You are a weirdo.
I disagree with that.
Because they have places where you can go and that's cool.
Yeah. That's the problem. that's the problem that's the problem
that's the nutsy part
this is the nutsy part
you could just
literally
go hire
a masseuse
that gets busy
that's with that
correct
easy to find
with that bag
and you can just ask
bag
and you can just
ask
that's true
you going to somebody's professional place you can just ask you going to
somebody's
professional
place
you can find
a motherfucker
that will come
massage every
part of your body
that's what Shorty
is saying in this
interview she's like
hey I'm damaged
doing this job
for the rest of
life now
like
mentally
yeah
I've never been
in that spot
and reading it
as a man I'm like he didn't
he didn't rape he didn't do that what spot you never been in and then she goes on to say
i've never been in a situation where a dude just threw his towel told invited me to his dick i'm
professional i do athletes i've been here and i've never gone through this before some of the women
that i know that have been sexually abused in that same situation their experience going to a spa now for the rest of life is different i can imagine
yeah it ain't as simple as hey we on vacation it's three o'clock good no no no let me dig into this
who is it who's there i'm fighting cases it It gets nuts. It gets nuts. I'm going to go with that.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
She said he had pre-cum on his stomach.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can't do that.
You can't do that.
And listen, I'm the pre-cum king.
You cannot do that around someone that doesn't want that.
Nobody wants to know about that.
We don't need to know that much.
I thought y'all just assumed I was the king of surgeons. Who crowns himself the pre-cum king?
Oh, you think I crown myself?
You don't think the ladies?
Say damn.
This two-minute nigga?
Let's take a break.
They over there like, damn.
This two-minute nigga?
Look, the ladies over there like, damn, this nigga wet?
Word.
That's not something to be just around bra guess i said we're gonna take a break
commercial after this commercial we're gonna get right here you're all right so during a commercial
break somehow we got back to justin the boy and sweetie and all of that stuff we do have other
shit to get to off of this but what were we saying? I was just saying that I still agree with him getting some act right.
I'm with it.
That's all.
I didn't know that Homeboy was the co-host.
Yeah.
And they was talking saucy.
They can't get to Homeboy.
Oh, he's get to?
No, they can't get to Homeboy.
All right, listen.
Let's move on, right, to some other relationship drama.
I'll present you gentlemen with the situation.
You tell me how you would respond.
Let's do it.
All right.
We are at Fugiano versus Trey Songz.
Okay.
I can't give you too much background on Fugiano because I'm 40 years old.
But Fugiano is Rene Rucci's boyfriend.
Rene Rucci is a female rapper affiliated with QC.
Her boyfriend's Fugiano.
I'm not certain who he is.
Let me just let you know, Fugiano is signed to Gucci's So Icy Entertainment.
Oh, he's a rapper? entertainment oh he's a rapper yeah he's a rapper him and pooch ice d were the the like the feature artists on the new uh was it 10 17 records
yeah okay so that helps me a bit because i mean i don't know much about him but he's a very well
dressed gentleman i'll give you a little bit more about him just so you know the type of person he is. Give it to me.
Fugiano got arrested for, I forget what the trial, I think it was a shootout or something he was involved in.
I could be wrong on that part.
But as soon as he made bond, he burnt the ankle bracelet off.
This is all true.
Went on the run and continued flicking it up for the gram
the entire time
so just a little background on the type of person
a nigga that don't give a fuck
well Ice just answered
so many questions for me because
I remember seeing him
cause I like how he dresses
well dressed guy
then he went away to jail and I wasn't certain why he went away to jail.
But okay, good to know now.
And now Trey Songz has insta-snapped a picture of his girlfriend.
No words.
I didn't see a caption.
Of his own girlfriend?
Of Rene Rucci.
No, of Rene Rucci.
No, of Fuji's girlfriend.
Fujiano's girlfriend.
He didn't put any words?
Didn't put any words. Didn't put any words.
Didn't put a caption.
He just put a beautiful picture of her.
She's a beautiful woman.
She is a beautiful woman.
And that caused Fugiano
to threaten Trey Songz
from the jail phone.
Yeah.
And say, yo, when I see you,
what's up?
I'm beating your ass.
I'm fucking you up.
I'm fucking your security up.
From the jail phone.
From the jail phone. the jail phone a little
bit more info that's what he said yep trey songs then replied with ha imagine like you would if
you're a man imagine that picture that dudes it's funny yeah get out your feelings ain't no money in
there all the things that the trey songs would say So here I am to ask you, gentlemen, I'll start with Parks.
Shoot.
Somebody puts your fiancé in their
Insta story. Uh-huh. No caption.
She's just a beautiful woman. She is.
They admire her
and adore that and recognize that as well.
Your response to that is
what? Someone that I don't know?
An artist, yeah, that you do not know
that has never met you or your fiance.
Uh, hmm.
I'm not sure how I'd act, honestly.
I'm not sure.
I'll toss it to Ish here.
Oh, wait, you're not done?
Give it to me.
I would probably say hello in the DM in some type of way.
What's up?
You would say hi to the guy.
I would say,
yeah.
I love this.
What's up?
I love this.
Just letting you know I'm around.
Yeah, I'm around.
That's it.
Right, Joe?
What's going on?
To the guy from jail.
Yeah, you hear me.
What from jail is?
That's what you would say.
It's a different,
it's a different.
All right,
so you would reply to the guy
and say,
yo,
I'm around.
Yo, it's me.
That's my girl. She's fine. Thank you. I appreciate you. You like her too. All right. So you would reply to the guy and say, yo. I've never been to jail, so I'm around. Yo, it's me. That's my girl.
She's fine.
Thank you.
I appreciate you.
You like her too?
All right.
I see where you're going with that.
All right.
Ish?
I'm not saying a thing.
He put a picture up of my girl that my girl probably posted on a social media platform
herself.
I'm with Ish on that.
He didn't.
He didn't. He don't have my girl in his house on his couch.
Today?
Exactly.
And again, back to our original point.
What if your girl likes him?
If she went on that couch, she went on there on her own accord.
And my beef is with her and not with him.
Exactly.
You're right.
No, if she likes you, my beef is with you too.
I don't have a beef with you if she's still my girl.
Then you call your girl on the jail call
and she got his music playing in the background.
It's a slightly different situation though.
From my...
You know, Mr. Still Your Girl is playing.
Of all people.
It's a different situation from...
If someone finds Rem who has a pretty discreet
public profile,
that's different from someone who has a massive
Instagram following.
In that situation, you kind of got to just
come with it. Your girl posts
the pictures of herself. Correct.
She's in the
entertainment industry. Correct. In some
form or fashion. That's going to happen.
That's her, right?
You can't fight every dude that think your girl is fine.
That's my thing. That's my only thing. your girl is fine. Yeah, that's my thing.
That's my only thing.
Your girl is fine.
She's fine.
She's a pretty girl.
So again, he just posted her.
You got to be a little bit more secure, too.
Yeah, but you can't be Mr. Steel, your girl, and post my girl.
You got to.
See, that's where it's tricky.
You know what?
That is a little bit.
Because why are you posting my girl?
You're doing that for a reason.
If you Mr. Steel Mike.
No, no, no.
That's funny.
If you know she's my girl and you put her in your Insta story, you low-key being disrespectful.
All right.
High key.
And I'm locked up.
No, it's high key.
It's high key.
Drake's girl thought that Drake would never be as big as Trey Songz.
Boy, was she wrong.
Look, again.
I'm just saying what he said.
We know.
Because you got to be in the top 1 to come come off the fight on that end
hey you were wrong i'm bigger than him yeah ah oh everybody don't get that off no that's right
but again when dre songs like tahiri that was the end of you was dead nigga I'm asking
you asking me something
that you was dead for
no I'm asking
what was the end of
I'm asking you
why you asking me
something you was dead for
the listeners don't know
the listeners do know
the first day memorandum
yeah yeah yeah
no need
no need
I forgot
that was the end
no what happened
okay
what happened
he lives up to his title
oh oh trade oh he robbed you I don't know what y'all Wabbit. Wabbit. He lives up to his title.
Oh.
Oh.
Trade.
Oh, he robbed you?
I don't know what y'all are laughing at.
What are y'all laughing at? I'm asking you, did he steal your girl?
I've been in bouts with men where I lost the bout.
So is that a yes?
Do you think you haven't been?
Nigga stole.
Nah.
Nobody ever stole my girl. Yeah. no i haven't all right lucky you
lucky you haven't had many girlfriends lucky you is all i'm saying
listen life is a series of my bad that didn't't happened to you. That he claimed. It's fine. No, that's not true.
Moving along is fine.
I mean, you've been blessed.
You've been blessed.
But even in that situation, we were making jokes about it,
but when Trey put the picture up.
I knew that I was with somebody that wanted to fuck that nigga.
And you let him know you were with somebody.
But you responded.
What I'm saying is you responded to him.
I responded.
I enjoyed the rest of my time
and that was
No, you responded.
You responded.
What did I say?
Just like you know I'm around.
That wasn't
no, no, you're wrong.
You did.
You're wrong.
That wasn't for him?
That wasn't for her.
That was for a different girl.
Oh.
It was a different girl.
He said something
and I said
I'm around. You're right. That was a different girl. I something and I said I'm around
you're right
that was a different girl
you're right
yeah it was
should I just be shooting
at all your bitches
he's your Jeff Goldblum
and Joe got a seat tray man
oh man
Joe got a seat tray
no I don't
what are y'all talking about
damn
no I don't
we just had a whole talk oh now look y'all on the other side of No, I don't. We just had a whole talk.
Oh, now look, y'all, on the other side of it.
Now I got to see Trey.
Well, now it's weird when someone goes to multiple.
No, no, no.
I didn't say that.
If a guy comes at multiple girls of yours, then there's-
Then what?
There's some beef.
No, they just have multiple, the same taste.
Then what?
Then women.
That's weird.
They have the same type.
That's not weird.
That's weird.
My type isn't type.
Yeah.
What is my type?
That's weird.
I don't see that as weird.
Trey's type. My type isn't type? Yeah. What is my type? That's weird. I don't see that as weird.
Trey's type is your type.
I know some of the men who have the same type that I had.
And you run into each other.
OK.
And you celebrities.
And you know you run into each other.
You know the celebrities that's into the girls that you into.
You know those things.
But when they start finding some shit that, like a girl
that maybe you aren't public with or something like that?
There's no such thing as what you're saying.
OK.
There is. Damn, that's, no, there's not. Maybe for you, that's a such thing as what you're saying. Okay. Damn, no, there's not.
Maybe for you, that's a luxury.
But when you're famous.
Hold on, what did you say?
I said if he finds some girl that maybe you're not putting on front street and is going at that too.
He puts all his girls on front street.
That's not true.
Stop that.
Stop that.
Now, let's have an intelligent conversation.
That's not what you do.
Let's talk about this.
I want to hear that.
You know that I have dealt with women
that have not been on Front Street publicly.
When you're seen with that person out
and you're a famous figure,
you are going through the same exact thing
that you go through on social media
with the famous people.
You get it.
Yeah.
I mean, should I went through the same thing
with the dope boys on the block?
You don't have to necessarily put them on front street if somebody finds out that and i have women now that haven't been on front street not many people know our affiliation but
a few people do from however they saw me at catch steak whatever it is and now they follow that woman
dm that woman find that woman go out of their way to find that woman.
And I have to tell this to you.
Rappers have found your girl.
That's true.
And your girl's not on Front Street.
That's true.
So then why do you have this position?
That's what I'm confused.
People will find your girl.
Yeah, no, that's true.
On purpose.
Period.
Right.
You've had fine women.
Niggas have come and found them.
Listen, what you want me to say
my point Joe is that if someone is targeting
multiple of your women and then they find the girls
that are not on front street then it
feels a little weird to me and what I'm
telling you is that in the
event that you weren't in this beautiful blissful
engagement and
you went on a run where
you bumped into 10 rims
physically not of course
who she is
sure
somebody that also
likes that
style woman
you're gonna bump
into them on your
on your journey
that's all I'm saying
that's it
especially if you're
on the same industry
hey listen
this is gonna sound
bad
in my
humble opinion
I think that
I have had the pleasure
of being intimate with some really attractive women.
Why does that sound bad?
That's true.
I believe that to be true.
I think that's public knowledge.
Hey, when I bump into other men
who want to consistently sleep with
the women that I sleep with,
yes, I think it's weird when I get into me,
but when I get out of me,
they're fine.
The women are fine.
You should want to fuck them.
I agree.
You shouldn't have
all the respect for me
to say,
oh, that's Joe's piece.
That's Joe's work.
Joe been there.
I'm not...
I don't think that much
of meant
to think that that's
how they moving out of here.
I agree.
I have friends that I think have beaten some of my,
some of my work.
I have family members that have beat some of my work behind my back.
You might've been there for that too.
You bitch.
I didn't pop in your fucking Michael.
You and Michael Paul boy.
You two niggas.
You two niggas boy.
Me and Michael Paul. I mean, water, boy. Me and Michael Paul. You two niggas, boy. Me and Michael Paul.
I mean, water under the bridge.
Matters none.
But Shorty never told me neither.
We just still cool.
Oh, man.
That's the worst.
It's the game.
And I think that's the part of the game that Trey Songz plays.
It's the game for me.
The game is the game.
Again, so.
Your girl is fine.
I'm Mr. Steel, your girl.
I'm appreciating your girl.
What you want to do with it?
And I'm respecting that game.
If she comes to fuck me, that wasn't your girl, and you better not say nothing to me about it.
That's true.
That's his position.
I get that, but at the same time, I understand dude's position.
Like, yo, all right.
I'm willing to take it.
Like, he might be willing to take it.
You're in jail.
Obviously, he don't give a fuck about that.
If he's in jail, on the jail phone making threats.
Yeah.
You're not even supposed to be on the phone, my nigga. Bro's in jail, on the jail phone making threats. Yeah. You're not even supposed
to be on the phone,
my nigga.
Bro, like,
he's on the phone
making threats.
Let them be known.
Okay.
So this says a little bit more.
He don't care about
prayers for all parties involved.
Sure.
Prayers for Fujiano.
Prayers for Ruchi.
Prayers for Trey.
Prayers for all parties involved.
That's why I don't
fuck niggas' girls no more.
You never know what niggas is willing to take it when they niggas is willing to take it I'm not fucking nobody's girl
that's really it
hopefully the three of you have stopped that too man
I'm not fucking anybody
you stopped that?
good man thank god
you used to live reckless too
both of y'all actually
alright so what's the next topic
niggas didn't care about her man.
What is the next topic?
Lil Nas X, Nike, devil worshiper, Air Maxes.
Lil Nas X secured a deal with a third-party company to do the devil Nike Air Maxes.
Started gaining some traction and momentum.
Nike put out a press release to say they have nothing to do with that.
And if that wasn't enough, they then moved forward with legal action to sue, send a cease and desist.
We did not authorize the rights to license this sneaker to you or for you to do anything of the sort.
You have to stop the in-between part is that uh everyone lashed out never buying nikes again
which prompted nike to yeah squash it made them smack now the other part which is funny to me
is this same company released a holy water shoe a jesus shoe where instead of blood it was holy
water under the radar no problems and that's what a lot of people are pointing out like who doesn't
like jesus i get it but a lot of people are pointing out. Who doesn't like Jesus?
I get it,
but a lot of people
are pointing that out
where, okay, you allow this
and now you got a problem with that.
The seaside doc
that I watched on Netflix
learned me to the fact
that the same corporations
that are defending
the shark extinction
and the killing of sharks
are the same companies
that are profiting on the killing of sharks are the same companies that are profiting on the
killing of sharks when i watched the eyeglass whatever that was whoever that was andrew teaches
you something whatever the name of that shit was they taught me that in an eyeglass business
uh the same companies that sell the glasses are the same companies that sell the contact lens
they own them they They make them.
They're going to profit on both sides.
Who cares which way you want to go?
So that's why that's not so shocking to me,
what you're saying.
So they cool.
They're going to make their money regardless.
I think Lil Nas X is a master troll.
Absolutely.
Again.
I still hate the troll argument.
No, this is a troll. No, this is a troll.
This is real life.
This ain't troll.
I hate the word troll
because a lot of people misuse it.
How can it? All right, let me, let me. How this ain't trolling I hate the word troll because a lot of people misuse it nowadays alright let me
how can it be trolling
if it's trolling
then I'm not to believe
his tweet the following day
that said
yo man
this backlash
is really affecting
how I feel
it's having a heavy effect
on my anxiety
please stream my record
cause of course
that's what I want you to do
but the backlash is bothering me.
He also tweeted.
We don't know if that's true
or not either, right?
He also tweeted,
I had nine months
to plan this rollout.
You're not going to win, bro.
Both can be true to me.
Okay.
Let's just be clear.
You can have nine months
to plan your rollout
and be affected as an artist
by the backlash of your rollout.
You didn't expect the backlash to be that bad. I think they both can be true true a lot of times the trolls don't expect the backlash to trolling don't tell
me that you're not affected in how you feel and if you are that defeats the purpose of the troll
when takashi trolls the deaths of many rappers that we love i think that stems from a very real
place i think he feels something in his heart,
which is why he's doing it.
I don't think he's just doing it to get a reaction.
No, you feel something.
That's why you're doing it.
Enough of this passive aggression,
passive aggressive everywhere.
I don't think he feels anything.
Niggas are feeling.
You don't think that Tekashi69 feels anything?
About what he's trolling on?
No.
You think if the person really passed away,
he wouldn't feel no type of way
or he couldn't feel no type of way?
Excuse me?
If he's trolling somebody, a rapper,
that he...
Can you speak into the microphone, please?
Seriously.
If he's trolling a rapper that he wishes dead, right?
He's trolling rappers that are dead as well.
But I'm just saying,
if somebody really died,
does he have...
People have really died. An instance where he could feel bad about it?
I don't think he feel bad.
Like once shit hits the fan, like you could wish something, right? But once it really hits the fan, you're like, oh damn, I went a little too far.
I think that Tekashi constantly mentions Pop Smoke and King Von.
May they both rest in peace.
mentions Pop Smoke and King Von.
May they both rest in peace.
I mentioned both of their names because secretly,
he feels a way about how loved they are
from the people.
He feels a way that these are two people
that allegedly really live their raps.
I agree with that 100%.
Two people that went out
the way that they rapped.
Right.
And they both are beloved.
I think there is a hatred that exists
in him for that not personally toward those people okay i thought you meant he is not loved
yeah he is not loved he don't live those raps but he sees how adored those people are so when he
says fuck king von fuck pop smoke or when he trolls the death of those two rappers he says a lot like that he says
a lot like that 100% said he says a lot like that rest in piss king von like he's he's done that
you know nipsey pass he went out to class he's doing he went out when von died he went out to
uh to o'block class he has a security team take him there they stage a shoot where he runs in
shoots and gets back in the car now some kids
will say that's trolling joe doesn't say that i say that is coming from a real place you are acting
out let's start calling things what they are you're acting out and you're looking for attention
based on something that exists inside of you okay so what is trolling then let me ask you that
trolling is when you have no emotional investment in either which way of the matter you're saying something just
just solely to incite reaction you're not married to whatever the reaction that comes i don't you
don't care you're saying something that you don't even care about just to get people riled up that's
what i understood trolling to be well this is a troll i've been called a troll and i disagree
with that that's why ice has been called a troll based on
my exact definition, though.
About a bunch of shit that in real life he could
care less about.
Okay. I think that's one specific
That's my definition. I think that's one specific kind of troll.
Right, right. That's what it is. Then what's
the other one? Because I'm tired of niggas
actually feeling something or calling
trolling this passive aggressiveness. I think Lil Nas X
did all this shit knowing that it was going to incite here's a cool definition trolling is defined as
creating discord on the internet by starting quarrels or upsetting people by posting inflammatory
inflammatory or off-topic messages in an online community basically a social media troll is
someone who purposely says something controversial in order to get a rise out of other users.
By that definition, 6ix9ine is a troll.
As is Lil Nas X.
By that definition, 90% of the internet is a troll.
Which is why I don't like this definition.
90% of you niggas are not that savvy that you're using the internet and just bouncing around on different ideas,
void of emotion on everything that's happening.
No, you're not.
Y'all are feeling things based off your internet consumption.
You are being conditioned and programmed.
And the things that you're reading,
the people you interact with,
your likes and dislikes,
it's all being documented.
It's a big business here.
And you niggas are fucking idiots to continue to jump up and say
when you type something it's trolling trolling for you not for the internet okay are you using
the internet or is the internet using you which side of defense do you stand on no takashi is not
trolling i'm one of the people that believe his baby moms when she start talking about who he is inside yo dude just
wants to be loved dude
just wants attention and the second you
don't give him these things that he never received
in life or in his household
or in his upbringing he acts out
and we just fall right for it
if you leave him alone he will go
away oh yeah that's what she said
that's what she said I That's most trolls. That's what she said.
I think most trolls are most trolls.
Again, that basically, yeah.
That scarred internally.
But no, and that adds to trolling.
They do it purposely to get a reaction.
Correct.
You just said if you don't respond, he's going to go away.
Right.
They're doing it for a purpose.
But if I give you the reaction, Ish, you're trolling, I give you the reaction.
My reaction causes emotions in you.
Indeed.
Is it still trolling for you?
Some level of satisfaction.
I still say it's trolling.
Got it.
I still say it's trolling.
Okay.
That's just a byproduct of the trolling.
I think all these niggas are soft.
All these new niggas with this trolling shit that don't know how to deal with your emotions,
don't know how to communicate, don't know how to talk.
You're comfortable with your abandonment issues.
You're comfortable with your one-parent household You're comfortable with your one parent household.
You've never seen love, never seen marriage, never seen all of this shit.
And you just on the Internet divulging shit.
Just running around with your very limited information base.
Refusing to educate yourself.
Refusing to be well versed.
I'm not just going to call it trolling.
You niggas is sick.
You niggas is fucking sickos out here.
And if you have emotions about some shit you see on the internet
then you need to do real life things to deal with them
not just say ha ha ha
I caused a reaction out of you
okay true but what you doing with the reaction in you
what you doing with those things
so you think that Lil Nas X is savvy or a troll
I think that Lil Nas X
is both savvy
and a troll
I think that Tekashi is both savvy and a troll. I think that Tekashi is both savvy and a troll.
I almost think you can't have one without the other.
For me, you got to be able to compartmentalize.
If Tekashi or Lil Nas X said something about something that they didn't care about,
something that their business didn't waver one way or the other,
and something that didn't affect them at all their family at all
and they just said some shit and left the phone i do that sometimes i'll say some shit that i don't
care about at all and just leave the phone you niggas argue about it it's not affecting me one
way or the other cool if i'm bothered if i'm affected it's not trolling it's an exchange now
it's transactional we are trading something
for something
and that something weighs in me
well tell me what they get
some level of satisfaction
that you created this response
same thing with cancel culture
wait wait wait
I don't want to stay on this either
but I agree with Ish
I agree the trolls. I agree.
The trolls get something.
You created this from nothing.
And I'm saying the feeling that pre-exists that.
The feeling that you have to have to want to do that.
To want to do that.
Yeah.
It stems from a real place.
It's not just you woke up one day and decided to drop this bomb on the world.
Well, I'll be honest with you.
I've trolled.
I have trolled in the past.
You said you don't like Premier Beats.
That's not a troll.
No, that's his opinion.
Right.
That's not him trolling.
See, that's where I get pissed off at
because an unpopular opinion is not trolling.
Just because I disagree with the masses,
I'm my own person.
I don't have to like Premier Beats today. That's my thing. I can my own person. I don't have to like premier beats.
Today.
That's my thing.
I can change what I like and don't like.
I don't want to say
what it is.
No, you don't.
You don't have to like them
but you're stupid.
See, stuff like that,
I look at as trolling.
Because you don't believe
it's possible for somebody
to not like.
No, because I think his beats,
just using this as an example,
I think that his beats
are not all similar.
Right?
I think they go
all over the place.
Right? He could have a beat that sounds one way. you can have a total beat that sounds a totally different way
for you to say i don't like premier beats i said i don't like majority of premier beats
does premier have a sound a signature sound yes or no of course he does yeah but again he's like
that sound okay i can say i don't like the premiere sound meaning I don't like
majority of premieres beats
yes he can go
I'ma like it if
premiere slapped shit out of you
and that's not a knock on him
I don't like it
today
there's shit I've liked
in the 90s
that I don't like today
I don't need to hear
two 50 year olds
tell me about
premiere beats and trolling
you niggas is 50
hip hop is y'all alright alright let's be clear two 50 year olds tell me about premiere beats and trolling. You niggas is 50.
Hip hop is y'all. I'm 30 by the way.
All right,
let's be clear.
Got it.
30, 50.
Got it, got it, got it.
Lil Nas X,
so the lawsuit is happening.
I'm assuming that
these sneakers
won't be resold.
I mean re-upped on.
Shit, they're going to be
extra resold.
No, the value is up.
The value is up.
And they only did
666 pairs.
Yeah. That's what it's worth. Yeah, they're sold out. Miley Cyrus. Oh value is up. The value is up. And they only did 666 pairs. Yeah.
Yeah, they sold out.
Miley Cyrus.
Oh, shut up.
Shut up.
Put a pair out.
Shut up.
Anybody that ever tells me that, shut up.
What?
Unless you work in the warehouse.
Unless you work in the warehouse.
We know the truth.
Don't tell me that they only made such and such amount of pairs.
That's a marketing thing.
Of course.
We know that.
Yeah.
Limited edition means it creates demand.. Of course. We know that. Yeah. Limited edition means
it creates demand.
Yeah, but now I watch that ideology
go from street wear
to high-end wear
to now luxury vehicles.
Cars, everything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
On the way here,
we were just talking about
the Maybach truck.
Albums.
The Maybach truck.
People do limited edition vinyls and tapes.
That's fine.
That's fine.
Let me tell you something.
And in that, I didn't believe some of that because vinyl is expensive to make.
Anything that's rare.
You probably only pressed up a certain amount.
It goes different there.
The Maybach truck, though.
I'm going to come back to that.
They are running around saying that it's only this many available for the year.
So they're raising the sticker
price upwards of eighty thousand dollars the base fee is 160 grand this truck is being sold for 260
280 240 and up so now we're dealing with that even in vehicles so i have to have a problem with this fake hey we only made this amount such and such
shut up go make more
no
go make more hey you see the demand is up
you see we want it go make more
no
alright but that no ain't gonna
make it now be 10x the value
and I'm not for Joe
not for you
I was about to say it it's been that way.
I was about to say, but for that rapper that wants to say, or not necessarily rapper, but
that person that wants to say, I got one of, Birdman used to do it.
Dog, that's been that way.
Yo, it's only three Bugattis.
Yeah.
I got two of them.
It ain't going right here.
The Hudson in my hood would spend 50 grand over ticket price to be the first nigga in
the hood with an SL.
How much you think you're going to pay for the fake vaccination
card? I don't know. I got it, though.
A penny. I got it, though. A nice penny.
I got it. Look, you're going to infect
the whole human nation. Mine's going to be real.
Because you got it, right? Mine's going to be real.
I'm going to be the official laminated. For real.
Cuomo signature.
Big Vax.
I don't need it. I don't need it.
So a bunch of people replied to Lil Nas X and was mad.
Waka Flocka was one of them.
Joyner Lucas was one of them.
And he was like, yo, main thing is our kids listen to you.
Our kids love Old Town Road.
You say that that's not the record you're working right now, but our kids love it.
To which Lil Nas X replied yo I'm literally talking
about sipping lean and adultery and old town road if you let your kids listen to that that's your
choice as two of you guys with kids not parks you'll soon join this club where do y'all stand
on that I agree 100% with with with um what Lil Nas X is saying you have to have some you have to
have some type of responsibility.
Yeah, yeah.
You got to monitor.
Like, you can't just let the internet
and everything raise your kids.
You have to know what your kids are watching
and listening to, to the best of your ability.
Is it?
I think today in music.
Old Town Road is catchy.
No, again, I was about to say,
look, everybody knows Old Town Road.
So is Hit Em Up.
No. No. Not like that. Not like that no not like today's music right and today's music and this is why i really don't but not like
we're talking about i know today's music in my opinion right my daughter won't be a park fan
go ahead music is you're not a park fan exactly music is more melodies right it's more melodic it's more
trendy it's catchy right so you can know a song and love a song and not know one lyric
or not know what they're talking about in the song that's my point so that's why i don't really
dive into you know the smashes are our chorus yeah yeah exactly chorus beat so i don't like
says that because the chorus of this is i want to take my horse to the old town road i want to ride until i can't know
that's the end that's what people know that's all my kids don't care about what you're saying
in the verses you need to do i got the horses in my lab but i don't know what nobody knows what
he's saying who knows and again i don't know the third verse to pump it up that you don't come on
the club second verse don't come on no more either yeah I don't know the third verse of Pump It Up. That shit don't come on in the club.
Second verse don't come on no more either.
Yeah, but don't do that.
My bad.
There was a time when it came on.
I'm just saying.
There was a time.
What you want, punk, double clip, punk, drop, bop.
I get it, but I'm just saying. Now they give you the hook and...
But we wasn't talking about that.
There's been a million songs in the history of music, though,
that have been innuendo or blatantly flagrant.
Pump It Up will not die.
Pump It Up is the song
that will never die.
Nah.
You better be happy.
You better be happy.
Here we go.
I better be happy.
I just said to my mom,
only my mom collects
the royalty statements
and checks from the song,
right?
And she knows
when the mail comes.
She knows when that check comes.
So it came the other day,
she sends me a picture
and I say,
man, 20 years later, I still get a little bum ass piece of chump change from this record.
It's like four thousand, five thousand quarterly.
But check this out.
So that boils down to maybe 20 grand a year.
Some people say that's not much.
When you get into the splits of the record.
Man, what is that record doing right now
like i only own if you get maybe four four percent of it was a sample it was mad producers
it's only maybe this percentage that's getting me 20 grand jay kwan better not never say my name
i don't know what tipsy is doing today i don't know what Tipsy is doing today. I don't know what Mims is doing today.
My shit's still 20 years later.
Think about that.
I was 21 years old.
My kid will be 21 in two years, a year and a half.
When's my kid's birthday?
A year and a half.
Imagine that.
Forget it, man.
So why did Jaquan and Mims got to do it?
That's why we had a big song out at the same time.
They did.
Or somewhere in the vicinity.
With those samples.
I don't think either of them went out the way.
Listen, when J. Quan put out Tipsy,
everybody at Def Jam was looking at me like, bum.
You bum ass.
You a loser.
Hey, where's your record?
Hey, you want me to put you in the studio with the producers of Tipsy?
I said, yeah, they put me in.
I ain't come out with no heat.
No heat.
Well, I mean, Tipsy was just grinding
remixed. Hold up, man.
Savon wants to get a good laugh out of that.
You think that's funny
that they put me in the studio with the Tipsy producers
and everybody was sober?
Yeah, I didn't come up
with no heat.
And paid their price.
Like when a producer group
catch the smash
and you want to try to catch that smash,
paid the 75 grand,
whatever it was,
for a dud.
I didn't put it out.
Nothing happened.
I wasn't Jaquan.
I didn't have the Atlanta accent.
It just didn't work.
Anyway, enough about me
and Jaquan and Mims.
For real, they was looking at hotel tipsy.
Well, Cass battling, so, you know.
Hotel, he don't need that.
Hotel was a monster.
That Cass and Mitch, it was hilarious,
but we ain't got time to talk about that.
We don't have time to talk about that no more.
What else is important that we need to unpack culturally?
Let's see, let's see, let's see.
is important that we need to unpack culturally. Let's see, let's see,
let's see.
Sexiest ball man ever isn't
me.
Prince Williams is the sexiest ball man
alive, according to
white people.
And The Rock is ranked like number nine
on here.
Mike Tyson and Jason Statham.
The fact that white people think Jason Statham
is sexy is funny to me,
but white people sexy is different from black
people sexy. Jason Statham, come on, man.
He's not the sexy man.
Jason Statham, the third sexiest
bald man in the world? No.
With the rock number nine?
Who's sexy to you?
Wait, who is on the list?
Hold up, here we go. Top ten's the list. Hold up, scroll it.
Here we go.
Top 10 sexy bald men.
Number one, Prince William.
Number two, Mike Tyson.
Wait, stop right there.
Look at the gap.
By a nine million vote difference.
Yo, that Prince shit holds some weight.
Jason Statham, number three at 7.4 million.
Four is Pitbull.
Five is Michael Jordan.
Six is Floyd Mayweather, who grows hair, wears his hair.
I don't even understand his placement here.
John Travolta, who I've never even seen bald.
I didn't even know he was bald.
He got plugs.
He got bad plugs.
I didn't know he was bald.
Remember in the OJ doc?
He's not bald.
His plugs look old.
He's got to go.
I'm sexier than him.
Bruce Willis, bald.
He's an icon.
He should be there.
The Rocket, number nine. Vin Diesel,
number ten. I've been in Tyrese's
yard with Vin Diesel telling me how much
sexier he was than me. I won't argue
that.
Pitbull, my nigga.
That's Mr. Worldwide, man.
Let me tell you who
I'm talking about.
Let me tell you who Joe is.
We'll tell you who Joe is sexier than.
Jason Statham, Pitbull, John Travolta.
All of them are way richer than me.
I'm not sexier than anybody on this list.
That's what it comes down to?
Because that's what it comes down to.
Excuse me.
Excuse me.
Wait, wait, wait.
Excuse me.
What did you say?
Sex appeal comes down to money?
Ish. I was asking. Answer it. You know That's wild. The bill comes down to money. Ish.
I was asking.
Answer it.
You know what time it is.
Answer it.
Answer it for the people.
You know the vibes, ish.
The Prince is a Prince at number one.
Number one is a Prince.
There's a reason why he's-
And not Prince.
With 17.6 million.
Okay.
Number two is Tyson.
If y'all say so, all right.
It's not if y'all say so.
The list says so.
Like, it's right there
the rock has more money than jason statham
or i mean michael jordan michael jordan has more money than mike tyson this entire list
has more money than me i recant any argument i recant any argument that I had to make. Here we go. Peloton, Peloton and Versus unveil a partnership.
Peloton.
All right, let's just read this.
This is coming from Variety.
Of course, I love Variety.
There's no question that the Versus musical battles, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Shut up.
Here we go.
Peloton Versus announced today is an equally savvy matchup.
Peloton versus announced today is an equally savvy matchup.
One that sees the versus battles and,
uh,
powering users of Peloton's popular fitness regimen.
According to the announcement,
the partnership is like nothing that Peloton has ever done before.
Of course,
y'all always need to see hip hop, hip hop work first before you indulge,
uh,
and we'll come to life during Peloton's motivational classes
taught by its
best-in-class instructors
available via
the Peloton bike,
tread,
or app,
which offers a 30-day
free trial to new members.
Timbaland says,
I don't care what he says.
Swiss Beats agrees.
I knew that.
Who cares?
Peloton's head of music,
Gwen Bethel, concurs some you probably said
the same shit as them i don't need to read i don't need to read any of this now with that said
how do you gentlemen feel about versus branching out and this is what i mean before you speak
versus had a deal with apple correct that deal concluded and seemingly a day or two after they announced their
Triller deal.
Not even a month after that deal.
We have a Peloton announcement.
We've already seen a versus NFL announcement.
We are seeing versus branch out in many different arenas,
many different areas, and they've sold it,
if I remember correctly.
They've sold to Triller.
Triller.
And then they went on the board of Triller.
So they are participating in their asset.
They've sold it, and they're branching out business-wise
and putting it everywhere they could put it.
I think it's really good business. That's swag. could put it. I think it's really good business.
That's swag.
It's dope.
I think it's really good business.
What's to dislike here?
Super dope.
Yeah.
Peloton's big business.
A lot of people.
I don't want to come off as the hater.
You're a hater.
No, I hate.
All right.
Get the hate off.
Don't hate.
Hate at home.
Okay.
No, you can't hate.
No, no, no.
I'm inviting you to hate my baseball team.
I just don't get it.
Maybe it's not for me to get.
Because you're fat, nigga. you ain't got no Peloton
I have a Peloton
so what is versus Peloton
they're gonna put the versus matches on the bike
cause I'm reading here it says
Brandy versus Monica run with
Rebecca Kennedy on 329
and 17
we saw the Brandy versus Monica
yeah but you ain't never run to it
you've never seen it on the Peloton bike.
But the Peloton bike
has internet, correct?
You have one, right? I have one. Yeah, but there's like an
instructor class thing. It's an instructor on a television
set in front of you and they're
running music and at the same time
So they're just going to play the music in the background of the battle?
I don't know how it's going to be structured, but
they're going to play whatever the battle is.
Alright, congrats to them, man. Anytime I see brothers
making moves and making money,
I'm going to congrats them
even though it look like
they hoeing versus out.
What are they supposed to do?
I just congratulated them.
Get your money.
Yeah, but to answer
this question,
what should they do?
If it's their business.
They were hoeing it
out to Apple.
Hey, it's their business.
They sold it
and now they're
conducting business.
Whoever they sold it to is taking it to another plateau.
Salute.
Oh, okay.
I'm not hating.
I'm hating.
Sounds a little hateful.
Yeah, you are.
Don't you say, hold it.
It sounds a little hateful.
Okay, well, you trolling.
Listen, if they were to secure a deal,
if you want to get on a United flight in first class and on the TV along with the movie.
Joe, I'm broke.
I don't do first class.
But go ahead, though.
If you continue to fill in this seat, you will not be broke.
Now, at that point, if you want to leave the money, you can.
That will be a conscious decision.
I like money.
But you will not be broke if you sit here just a little longer.
Listen to this.
If on the first class shit, where they show you TV, movies, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
If Versus is there, that means Triller or someone broke it, broke it a deal.
That was a good one.
Yeah, that is good.
And they put it there.
And if I'm Swiss or Timbaland or Triller, I would want to do that.
And if I could do that in 10 different places to 10X, not just for me, but for the company
we invest in and for all the artists that have stake in this.
That's true.
See, I needed a little bit more perspective on that.
Wouldn't we do it?
I think they're killing this shit.
Yeah, that is very smart if you put it that way.
That was a good one.
Well, if you want to sell.
Only if you want to sell.
Like some people, like I used to say, maybe you don't want to sell, so you're not whoring it out.
I'm keeping it.
Limited edition.
I'm keeping it.
That's what Joe says.
Hey, I'm not selling the podcast.
No way.
I'm holding this.
You want to license it?
Let's talk.
But I'm not selling this anywhere.
I'm not whoring it out.
I'm guarding this.
They taking this wherever makes sense for them.
That's smart.
And they're already rich.
I'm about to say,
they're making a lot of money in the process.
They're already rich.
And making their people a lot of money.
Yeah, it's true.
There's no way for me to hate on this.
I don't want to come off as hating.
If I'm riding a bike
and I see the Versus series pop up there
and I can watch some shit
while I'm on my treadmill or whatever,
that's ill.
You can hear Premiere and RZA beats.
Go at it.
I have a relationship with DJ
Premiere. I like Premiere beats.
He's trolling the troll.
I like them too.
Prem listens to our pod.
And he likes ice.
Look at that. You should be ashamed of yourself.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
I can't help it if I don't want to hear it today.
That's all.
But no, if I...
You like Prime?
Next question.
Next question.
Okay.
Listen, we are back from a brief commercial break.
We are.
We back.
And...
This guy, man.
This guy, yeah.
Joe, you funny, man.
It's hard to say, man.
That's it.
What were you guys arguing about?
Joe's driving ability?
He think he could drive better than me?
No, we weren't.
Why do Jersey people get so competitive with driving?
Because that's what we do.
New Yorkers can't drive, so you already know y'all ain't driving.
New Yorkers don't even have cars to drive or licenses.
Why y'all think it's a NASCAR race?
Why do you think we have to speak to you about it as a train user?
You're a train guy, right?
You're one of those New Yorkers.
Oh, take the train.
You started driving a year ago.
That's not true.
Two years ago.
Twelve years ago?
I don't know how long it's been.
No, no, no.
At one point I drove way more than you.
Stop it. You ain't 20 years.
Stop it. Stop it.
You just got your car.
I grew up in upstate New York. This is the problem with
podcasting. I grew up in upstate New York.
We drove a lot. The problem with podcasting
is everybody is not qualified to speak on the things that they speak on.
I'm 37.
40 years old.
I'm 37.
Same shit.
Telling us about his upbringing in Buffalo somewhere.
And we talking about driving in New York City as an adult with a car finding parking
fighting with niggas over the parking
road rate
not paying the toll that's the driving
we talking about
you have not experienced
that because you've had the luxury
of I'll take the train
like most New Yorkers
so to answer your question
but to answer your question that's why New Jersey people feel like that.
Because it's driver's privilege.
Right.
Because we don't get to train, bus.
We don't get none of that.
We could.
None of the path.
We also have niggas to fill up our gas when we pull up.
Right.
In two degree weather.
Yeah.
Because we got a room.
Fill that up.
Fill that up.
Fill that up.
No, I don't want to be in that car so bad.
We got things to do, buddy.
We ain't got time to be pumping no gas.
And this is fucked up.
The rest of the world is hearing us right now.
The rest of the world is hearing us.
Sucks to be them.
Hey, sorry.
Sucks to be them.
Yeah, I ain't going to hold you, man.
Y'all drop the gas.
You niggas is trash.
Yeah, that ain't our fault.
Y'all got to pull up to the gas station and get out to buy a Snickers with some gas.
Hey, y'all get a little...
While I'm here, I might as well get some
chips. On that topic, let me ask you a question
because somebody asked me and I laughed.
Do you tip the gas?
Do you?
Do I tip them what?
I tip them
some good information
that can stick with
them throughout life.
Are you supposed to tip the gas station?
I know people that do.
People that do are out of towners.
Nah, I do know people that do.
Let me shoot one back. Do you tip the valet guy?
Yeah.
That look like it's a foul.
I'm tipping the valet guy and not the gas station guy.
Because he get in my car.
Let me tell you how foul I am at the gas station.
When I get to the gas station, I give him my card.
I say, give it right back.
Don't hold it.
Go ahead and put it in.
And give it back.
I'm going in the store.
You're not just going to hold my fucking card and run my shit.
I've gotten times where I got out.
That's that New York shit.
I've got out and gave him the card
at the pump
let him put
alright then I go get back
in the car
and you still gotta
pump the gas
so I do that
but not that
why though
nigga
nah nah
you can get out the car
cause I get gas in the hood
I know how it go
how it go
they swipe your
information
you're from Irvington
you are from Irvington
New Jersey
you are from East Orangeton, New Jersey.
You are from East Orange,
even worse.
Yeah, don't say no fucking Irvington.
You from a bad place
in the world, nigga.
You know why.
No, I don't though.
All right, all right.
I'm not trying to be funny.
I'm serious.
Back to my story.
They do that shit more
in the birds than in the hood.
I give them my card.
I take it back.
Uh-uh, papa.
Give it right back.
I go in the store.
I get my little coffee, my chips
and stuff. You see, papa almost got
us murdered. You papa. Uh-uh, papa.
Give it back. Papa.
Hey, I get up to the desk.
I bring my little shit up.
The machine come up, start talking to me.
Yo, you want to thank the troops, nigga? No.
I don't want to thank the troops.
And I want my change back in my pay cash.
Hey, yo, you got some money for the cancer? Nigga, I don't want to thank the troops and I want my change back you got some money for the cancer
I don't have money for none of these niggas
they got the little jar right there
give me that back
I don't trust that money's going to whatever they say
me neither
I think that's a lie let's go to Exxon
our money ain't going to the fucking troops
into cancer research
I've been here 40 years there's no cure for cancer
but it's a vaccine for
motherfucking COVID.
In six months.
Ta-da.
And I'm going to have it in two days.
I'll take it. I don't care what you niggas say.
When your fingers start
falling off, don't say nothing, nigga.
I'm going to go get my class action lawsuit.
Do I have the real vax card?
I ain't going to say nothing. As long as my card is real.
You don't come around me with your little scam and East Orange tricks.
Don't come around me with your cards.
Nigga spreading COVID all over the earth with his fake cards.
Building houses.
Building COVID houses.
Save the house that COVID built?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm cool.
I'm cool on him.
Fam, say what you wish.
What is this?
Breaking news.
I am Steve Harvey.
We'll be hosting Versus this Sunday
with Isley Brothers and Earth, Wind & Fire.
I'm with that.
I like that.
I love that.
That's kind of dope.
Will Lori be there?
No.
Why do y'all be on her dick so much?
I don't like her.
I'm good. he hit her with the
you are a diva
you are a diva
don't put me into it
I want to address
your shit
she's not your type
well further
she's a baby
so I'm not gonna
try to like her
since when how old is she She's not your type. Well, further, she's a baby. So I'm not going to try to like her.
Since when?
How old is she?
Fuck you moving around for it.
Fuck Erickson.
Erickson all of a sudden is fidgety.
How old is Lori Harvey?
Joe-able.
How old is Lori Harvey?
Nigga, she in your age range.
Someone just say that.
Still don't answer me.
It don't matter.
I know.
Hey, Joe, my type is the thick chicks and the skinny chicks, right?
24.
She's 24.
Right?
My type is the 32-year-olds and the 24-year-olds.
Look, y'all just say anything when it come to me.
No, but we know that's your type, though.
I wouldn't touch Lori Harvey. She ain't 24.
She 20 Joe.
I'm not.
You got a lot of little, you know what I mean?
Little lows. You my man. No, I ain't no. She 20 Joe. I'm not. You got a lot of little, you know what I mean? A little low.
You my man.
No, I know.
You my man.
I'm not fucking nothing that's 24 today.
Sorry.
I know.
It ruins the joke.
It steps on things.
It's not fun.
Okay.
Joe's not fucking nothing that's 24 today.
Okay.
I got to leave it.
I got to say okay.
What you going to say?
You can't say nothing.
I can say okay.
I can show you the 25-year-old that I might fuck.
Then you would understand.
She don't look like Lori Harvey.
If I found someone that was 25 that I would be into.
So Steve Harvey's going to die.
He's going to kill this.
Yeah, he's going to kill this.
This is his land right here.
He's going to be good here.
I'm not meeting none of you chicks in your fucking 30s that I can't mold.
You better get one.
You better get one.
All right.
So we here now.
All right, we here.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, hell no.
We here now.
We here now.
It's a joke.
Nope.
It's a joke.
It's some truth behind any joke, Demi.
I don't even have the energy to mold a chick today.
But this is my question because you're not even allowed to say this publicly.
So recant that from the record.
Flag it.
Edit it.
Cancel me.
Do what you must.
We're not flagging and editing
but cancel me if you must.
This is my question.
How come women
are able to say
that they
like a man
that they are able to mold
but if a man says that
then it's an issue?
Well one
I know why men can't say that but why
can women say it i don't even see women saying that no more they're saying the opposite no women
are saying the opposite women are now saying we're not molding niggas no more i ain't dating on
potential i'm not yeah i'm not i'm not dealing with these childish ass niggas no more find you
somebody who got his shit together know what he's doing and i don't have to i don't have to raise
you i'm not your mother i mean they say that but then you see the niggas they date.
Well, women lie.
Women also say they're not fucking with broke
niggas, and, you know.
That's a fucking myth.
That is a myth.
We really want to get into it. It's all a myth.
But that...
Well, why do they keep lying?
To themselves. It sounds good.
It makes them feel better.
I don't care. I'm not trying to fuck none of them. Yeah, you don't keep lying? To themselves. It sounds good. It makes them feel good. I don't care.
You don't give a fuck what they think.
I'm not trying to fuck none of them.
Yeah, you don't care.
Nor am I.
Nor am I.
All the chicks mad over my Valentine's Day.
All right.
All right, bitch.
That's what I be trying to tell chicks.
Hey, by the time dude made the decision to publicly show something, he is committed to
deading you.
Right. He don't deading you. Right.
He don't care if you find out.
He don't give a fuck about your opinions
on the matter
your thoughts.
Oh it was foul shady.
Oh I didn't know
I just spoke to him.
No.
I don't think
that's their stance though.
That's our stance though.
I think their stance is
yo we was together
seven years
and you ain't never
drop a rose on the ground
for me nigga.
You not her. Now go sit in a closet alone and repeat that to yourself 90 times because you right no no i didn't drop a rose on you but i dropped it on her in a week hey hey it didn't
take long hey clearly I'm not against
dropping that for somebody.
So you might need to figure out
what it is about you
that you didn't get that
from me.
There we go.
That is true.
It's inner reflection.
But they don't look at that.
That's not,
is that our fault?
Yeah.
Is that our problem?
They're not reflecting
on their inner issues.
No,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, anytime we say some shit we can get in trouble for i'm gonna play rory and i'm dropping
yes that's the thing about podcasting man some of this stuff that's why i don't like
we talk about over monopoly you can't just say right here
to me you know how many people listen to this shit? A lot. Who would disagree, though?
This is the winner.
Let's move on.
No, no, I'm not doing it. CTE co-founder
Kinky B.
It's argumentative.
That's why he's great for a pod,
but he's bad for a pod. It's cool.
And Ish can't be here with us Friday
for whatever the reason be. I'm going to miss
him. I'm going to miss him.
Listen, CTE co-founder
Kinky B says Jeezy lost
air quotes all his street credibility
after verses. Ice just
hit me to this, so please inform me. Kinky
B is Jeezy's old manager. Do you want me to
play the snippet here? Please play the snippet
and then Ice can tell me what's going on.
The United States
of America
any street nigga lost all respect for that man
that day he lost all his street credibility that day due to the fact that i don't give a
when a lose their life man ain't no ain't no peacing up my never be peace money never ever
Peace, my nigga.
Never, ever.
Okay.
Like I said, Kinky B is the CTE co-founder along with Jeezy.
Okay.
I do believe he was also his old manager from when he first started years ago.
And I disagree with his statement.
I mean, if I'm Jeezy, I don't really give a... Who cares?
I'm not a street nigga no more.
I'm not...
That's where you fuck up at.
Once you make that transition, you're worrying about what the streets do.
You can't play both sides.
You can't be a street nigga and not be a street nigga.
You have to pick.
And that's where a lot of people get themselves tied up at, worrying about the streets.
You are a corporate person now.
I'm with Ice on this streets you are a corporate person now i'm with ice on
this you are a corporate business there's a lot of people depending on jeezy there's a lot of
people that he's feeding i disagree worrying about the streets will cause all that to fall
let me hear this he doesn't have to engage in street shit right right? But the moral compass that was instilled in you,
the values, the principles,
the morals that you learned
living that life,
they follow you throughout
the course of your life.
Like, for example,
if you were raised to say
snitching or ratting is whack,
you don't get $20 million,
$50 million, $100 million
and then say
nah ratting is cool again your principles and your moral code and ethics why not why don't you
i'm asking because again to you your views can change right yeah no no you can change you can
change you can change so way of life can change everything about you can change right i'm sorry but go ahead all right but your principles or your moral ethics don't change it's like you're trying not to talk
into my i'm not gonna move the mic to your mouth because pause yeah all right so look
that's not
anyway right so again the money that
the money that
you don't your morals
or your principles shouldn't
necessarily change
you talk you don't do nothing else but talk
you just talk predicated on money
whoa look at that you sound great
this guy is nuts yo your morals
or your ethics or your values
shouldn't necessarily change because um
of a money situation like in this instance he didn't lose money by not doing his verses
under these circumstances I'm talking about just this he didn't lose money by not doing his verses
so again if you were I could make the case that he did make Make it then. I want to hear that.
He dropped an album that night.
Jeezy's Ice Cold in the Streets.
And I'm the biggest Jeezy fan on the planet.
You are.
Jeezy is 100% ice cold in the streets, musically.
I like that album.
I love that album. I bought that album.
I was actually.
And I'm not sure I would have known that album dropped if not for this night.
That's my point.
Not doing that.
So it wasn't sincere.
He did it for a rollout. Everything's a rollout. I've been saying this forever. Everything's a roll. Not doing that person. So it wasn't sincere. He did it for a rollout.
Everything's a rollout.
I've been saying this forever.
Everything's a rollout.
Well, what's wrong with that?
Nothing.
But if I could use a rollout
and make a positive out of it.
I don't see why he's just saying
we can't hear Corey.
What, what, what?
All right, it's a rollout.
No, he said.
I'm dropping an album.
Yeah, I'm saying.
So him using this,
him dropping this album as a rollout,
we might not have known this album was coming out
had he not done his verses.
So yeah, he could have lost money not doing his verses.
Okay, I understand that, Poy.
He could have taken another route to release his album.
He released a bunch of other albums.
And nothing happened.
And nothing happened.
Nothing's been happening.
So what do I do?
I'm going to go get the one thing
that you never thought you'd see in this lifetime.
So he's a troll.
That's not a troll.
There's real feeling behind that.
See, we back to what do you know.
See, what do you know?
There's real feeling behind that.
You said that that don't stop it from being a troll,
even if there is real feeling behind it.
No, I'm saying the feeling prior to that.
I agree with your point.
I said, yo,
he could have rolled his album
out another way.
But he rolled out
the last three albums
and nothing happened.
All right.
This is a business decision
on both their parts,
not just Jeezy.
Be clear.
I'm not even...
This is a business decision
on Gucci's part too.
But we're not talking about Gucci, man.
You're talking about a comment
made by his boy
that both used to rip and run...
His ex-boy.
Because that matters. They used to rip and run the streets together right so again whatever you did in the streets
it's behind him cool god bless fortunately he made it out of a situation that many don't make
it out of right but again the same morals and values that were instilled in you and embedded
in you they should still be who you are. All right, I'm going to also say
about this particular situation here,
something that a lot of people have been hinting at,
but no one ever just came out and said.
We don't know for sure that was his man's.
And I'm not trying to disrespect anybody.
We don't know that.
This is an artist on my label.
I make a statement saying yo i got ten
thousand dollars for this dude's chain and he go try to get it i didn't send you but out of respect
for you i'm not gonna address that which is why jesus never said a word about this so how do you
know or not we don't know we don't know we don't know i'm not sure that jesus was ever trying to
win the streets battle and taking his versus against Gucci Mane.
At all.
I think he was well aware that that's a battle he would lose, right?
The battle of the streets. He's lost the streets already prior to his versus.
Now, even if he would have won that when BMF was out
and when his classics was out, cool.
But today, nah.
This was a legacy battle on Jeezy's behalf,
playing all of those commercial hits.
Monster hits. Yeah. It's not about who's behalf, playing all of those commercial hits. Monster hits.
Yeah.
Right.
It's not about who's the streetest, who's the toughest.
And for this Jeezy.
But for his man to say that.
X-Man that we fell out with.
That matters, bro.
It does.
That matters.
I don't know how tight these two are today.
No, no, I agree.
That does matter.
But again, for one street nigga to another street nigga to say, yo, you basically are.
A fraud.
No, you're just basically.
Sellout.
You hurt yourself.
Throwing everything that you learned in your upbringing away for a rollout.
See, but that's on the surface.
Let me let me let me let me add in.
I don't agree with the stance just on my take on forgiveness as a whole.
Like, forgiveness is something that you do so that you don't have to live with something.
It's not something that's necessarily for the other person.
Indeed.
So, this gentleman, Kinky B, Kinky B's take is somebody died. There's no forgiveness. Well, Joe's take is, and this is none of my business, that's exactly the time that forgiveness should occur.
Life has been lost.
There might be survivor's guilt.
Like, I don't know what's going on there.
But Joe's higher power is a forgiving higher power and i know it takes a lot of maturity to get into that instance where
an action you cause caused the life of death and it's still time to forgive or somebody killed
someone that is close to you and that you love so it's time to forgive that's a lot to ask someone
that's a lot but look now granted you're more entitled to feel that way and that's not wrong
but do i do it publicly in a versus situation I don't think this was the first time that these gentlemen
have spoken to each other
been around each other
I know for a fact they ran into each other at a restaurant prior to this
and they spoke on the phone prior to this
they would have had to you can't just publicly pop up
with all this going on
no they had to talk at some point
I don't know a lot of niggas killed Jeezy
for doing it I'm not going to be one of those people
I didn't kill him I'm just saying of niggas killed Jeezy for doing it. I'm not going to be one of those people. I didn't kill him.
I'm just saying my man,
what's his name?
Kinky B.
Kinky B.
Kinky B has,
from his street perspective,
he has some valid points.
But if I'm Jeezy,
and I'm not trying to shit on the streets, please.
I'm still, you know,
everybody in the streets
that watch this,
I'm not shitting on y'all.
If I'm Jeezyzy do I give a fuck
what the streets think
right now
yes
no
no you don't
that's not true
you do not give a fuck
I'm married to Anna Mae
I mean I hope I'm not
Ginny Mae
I'm sorry
I'm married to Ginny Mae
I wasn't trying to be funny
no no no
he does care
he does care
it's a different
it's a contradiction
that he don't care
huh bro if I'm not the contradiction That he don't care Huh
Bro if I'm not the same
The contradiction of
I don't give a fuck
About the streets anymore
Means that
Why would you plan this
For your rollout
What street about this
His whole content
And his music
Is street music
So if he ain't
Have you listened
To his current album
He's not talking street shit
In the album
That's the point
I'm not that cheesy
That I used to be
He said that shit
I could show up
And play my old songs Yeah like I said He to be i could show up and play my old songs yeah i like i said he said it i could show up my old songs and not subscribe to
that old way of thinking today i agree these are old classics this is what the people wanted
no no no i'm taking i well this is where i i'm gonna bow out because i didn't hear his new album
right so if his new album
is the typical Jeezy shit
that he's been...
It's not.
It's not.
It's not.
It's grown.
It's mature.
That's where I'm going
I'm off the street shit.
I'm married.
Jail's death.
This is what it brings you.
Y'all used to live this
but now I'm living this.
He tried to make his version
of 444.
Cool.
Okay.
Without the...
Okay.
But it was soul samples.
I feel you. Again, if he was still talking the same
old look the album cover with the beret yeah like and he got killed for that see what he's
like like you got killed this is the candy with the spokes I feel him I'm just saying that uh uh
if if he was talking that same old then you He got Demi Lovato on his album.
And that record actually went.
I was very shocked.
That's one of my favorites on that album.
I did not expect that at all.
I was like, oh shit, this is hard.
On this podcast, we don't need a Demi Lovato breakdown.
I didn't break it down. Just letting everyone know.
You're talking about your shock for it.
I was shocked.
You do that on your Demi Lovato podcast.
All right, we have a guest upstairs.
Should we bring our guest down to get acclimated for a quick second?
Bring him down, man.
We'll keep talking.
The Tina Turner doc.
The Tina Turner doc on, where was that that I saw?
The HBO Max?
That was on HBO Max. That was on HBO Max. Oh, I'm bugging. The Tina Turner doc. where was that that I saw the HBO Max that was on HBO Max the Tina Turner doc
I didn't see it
I heard it
it's like a
five part doc
that has the option
to be rolled
into all one
I saw it as
one long film piece
I like that
by the way
let me tell you guys
Steve
what's going on man
how you feeling man you are a rich, what's going on, man? How you feeling, man?
You are a rich fuck.
You are a rich fuck, man.
Come sit right by me, man.
Right where I like you to be.
Come here.
Sit down here with your fucking...
What the hell is this?
Some rich bag.
Don't this bag look like...
This look like...
Yo, Steve, man.
Yo, Steve, man.
Yo, man Yo man Something like
Can I open this
It's got some weight to it
This is a nice bag you fucking rich piece of shit
Let's see
Oh yeah see
See come on man
What are you saying? What is this?
No, no, no.
I want you to tell the people they can't see.
Can you talk into the mic?
John Rothschild, 06, just a real light.
Let me hit the ace real quick.
We can put the ace on ice right now.
Ace.
Let's get that chill.
You heard what the man said. You can put that on ice right now. I don't Let's get that chill. You heard what the man said. You heard what the man said.
Yo, you can put that
on ice right now.
I don't know if you guys
have cigars in there,
whatever you guys want to do.
I like cigars.
In the front.
Whoa, whoa.
Hey.
Hey, the coach is incorrect.
Nah.
Hey, Joe.
I see, I see.
I'm ghetto.
I see it.
I'm ghetto.
Joe, you got to give him
some applause, man.
He came with the bike.
Come on, man.
He did.
Let me have the round of applause. Oh, Steve, look at him some applause, man. He came with a bite. Come on, man. He did. Let me get the round of applause.
Oh, Steve, look at that.
You got to zip it all the way down, man.
He's not a customer of that shit, you know.
Open it up.
Boom, boom.
Everything is smooth.
See how smooth that over is?
Everything is smooth.
Ladies and gentlemen, Steve Stout is here to join us.
Let me get the round of applause one more time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
gentlemen, Steve Stout is here to join us.
Let me hit the round of applause one more time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He brought me a really beautiful,
rich nigga looking bag filled with some,
what's this, some Rothschild.
That's a Rothschild, some Ace.
That's a rich name, some Ace.
Cigars.
This is beautiful, man.
You know what this reminds me of?
No.
Let me tell you what this reminds me of.
No. I was in Miami by happenstance right by happenstance i was in miami i was chasing my dick looking for something to do for the night
of course that's what you do in miami yeah yeah yeah yeah uh wound up with a really good friend
of mine,
and she told me to run over to this spot because Steve was over there,
and Steve is my guy.
So I ran over to the spot, and it was mixy.
It was white girls partying, techno music.
They were Spanish.
That's what the rich niggas say.
They call the white girls Spanish.
That's not even true.
Hey, it was white girls.
Listen, it was white girls partying.
There were like billionaires. You want to cut it?
That's all you want to know.
There was billionaires everywhere.
Like, it was a lot going on.
And I tapped Steve Stout and I said, yo, man, this is a movie.
And he was drunk and he just didn't is whatever have fun man and then
ten minutes later a white guy with an accent came in the club and he was
carrying something kind of like Steve with the book bag I would tell this
story I don't care if you get all this trouble and he was like yo man Steve say
yo this gentleman just put him on a first class trip from London because he's got this black diamond that I was searching for for years.
And he found it for me anywhere in the world.
This is X, X, X amount of dollars.
But he got it for me and he brought it here.
Look at this beautiful piece.
Oh, I'm sorry.
And he pulled this thing out in the club.
And it was a beautiful piece of jewelry whatever this was a diamond and at that point i knew oh yeah that's right it was the um
oh it's a lot of whatever that was it was a beautiful piece it was a beautiful diamond it
was it was a beautiful black diamond it was the star of Africa. It's a lapel pin.
That's big boy talk.
These are real things.
I mean, what do you want me to do?
Yo, these are, say more.
These are real things, right?
I'm going to use that line one day, by the way.
Steve, Steve, how you doing, man?
This is a long time coming with us getting you on the pod.
I'm happy to be here.
I'm happy to have you.
I've wanted to come here.
I've been asking to come here
for a minute, man.
I thought you were
in the welfare chair.
Yeah, I did.
No, that's the good
director's chair.
I'm sure you've directed
something at some point.
No.
No?
Home movies.
Sure.
Sure. A lot of those in Miami, the home movies. They've been going on for years. Got it. sure sure
lot of those in Miami
the home movies
they've been going on
for years
got it
you probably are one
of the inventors
of those home movies
that's not true
no
probably
don't try to go that far
you've been here a long time
in hip hop
that's why I'm glad
to have you here
because your name
is part of so many
legendary stories
in hip hop
and even if you don't know
those things because you're young, today you have United Masters, right?
You're in plenty of pictures with Nas sipping wine, saying that y'all are better than us.
Like, you got a lot of shit going on.
So when we see it, for me, what you symbolize is one of the guys that came in under the old regime, the old set of rules, maybe learned from the old set of rules,
and then had to adapt however many years later when you realize, much like this generation,
okay, a lot of that stuff that we learned and the way that we did things, we could probably do it differently and do it a little better.
What do you say to that?
Yeah, it was probably two or three transitions from the time I got in the business.
I got in in 90, but shit, I got in the business in 92.
91, 92 with Kid N Play.
The first thing I did that was Steve Stout doing something was I did the theme music
for the Martin Lawrence show.
Da-da-da-da-da-da. Oh, wow. You did the theme music for the Martin Lawrence show.
Oh, wow.
You did?
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
So I found a producer, this kid named Steve Kitt.
And I knew Martin.
He was kidding play.
He used to sleep on the couch.
He was on the come up, you know?
And, you know, when he got the show, he gave me the opportunity.
And I had my producer, Steve, did the theme music. And that was really the first thing that got me going in managing producers. And I got my confidence that I could
figure it out. And it went from that to Nas, and then Nas to Will Smith, and then Will Smith to-
Trackmasters before Nas?
Well, Trackmasters and Nas was the same time. Okay. Both 95, and then Mary and Will Smith, and then it ended, Enrique Iglesias, and then
it just started going on and on and on.
That's a resume there.
But, you know, coming up in the business-
It's a resume when you can say, and it just went on and on and on.
After all that, it went on and on by the grace of God.
But then I left.
But the thing that was crazy, and it's a very important part of being an entrepreneur,
really just knowing yourself, was when I left the music business in 1999, when I departed,
I felt like I could do more for the music business outside of the music business.
And I went into advertising.
And people thought that was crazy, because I was running Interscope and it was big and we
had just did 8 Mile and it was just all these things but I knew if I went into
the advertising business nobody was there that I could make something happen
and I'm into that kind of thing I'm into like if there's no footsteps then let me
just go do it let me go lay those things down. And I'll do the work. And when I got to advertising, I mean, the first big thing that I did, but I knew people would love it.
And it was just my gut instinct was the Allen Iverson Jadakiss commercial.
And I was just like, man, are you kidding me?
Like, I know I could do this.
And I know people are going to love this shit.
And they were playing the commercial on the radio.
And it was just like, I was oh we could do that and then that led to or less than let's do
the let's do the S Carter's let's do sneakers let's take it one step further
and we did the S Carter's the G units the ice creams of Pharrell and you know
we it was a became a thing in 2003 2004 and then I'm loving it. And it just, with McDonald's, and it really has gone on and on.
And then it went back to music and with United Masters.
So basically, you're one of the original brand ambassadors of this thing.
No, I'm the guy who did it.
I'm the guy.
There is no other person.
When you talk about hip hop being
in advertising and treating the artists like brands and taking that around the world, there
is no other person. There's not a second person to name.
You consciously did that. You knew it was lacking from white America.
I knew it. I got a glimpse of it. I got a glimpse of it when we did Men in Black,
and the album sold 10 million copies,
and the glasses sold more than the album,
and nobody even talked about it.
Because in the music business, the issue was we made so much money
because consumers, you guys were kids,
we were selling you guys an album for $16,
in which you only really like one song.
Yeah, he's probably your age.
Well, I did see that.
He just looks good.
Don't let the smooth taste fool you.
Well, you.
Don't let the smooth taste fool you.
That's a tagline.
But yeah, the rest of us.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got it.
You buy the one album.
You buy the album for what?
The margin on that is huge, right?
Because, you know, it's only one song.
You're making so much money, you're not even thinking about all of the other ancillary businesses that you are not making money off of.
Like, I mean, all the money that was made off of ringtones, that record companies didn't own a ringtone business.
They were just giving the money away.
So I just, I'm not one to get into that like you know i learned from my dad
like my dad grew up like a merchant marine mechanic like it don't make a difference man
no matter what the job is you got to do the job like it's that job just because we're making so
much money in entertainment doesn't mean you work less because you make more money put the same
effort in as a plumber as a mechanic as, as somebody else. We ain't got shit.
And that's what I did.
And so when I left, I'm like, I'm going to figure this thing out.
Because what I didn't want to see anymore was like,
you watch Fruit Loop commercials, and then you got somebody doing fake rap in the background, and all that stupid shit.
And you're looking at it like, this ain't even real.
Let's put the real dudes in it.
So I'm like, I'm going to be the guy to figure out how to get the real dudes in it and I just chipped away at it and got it done
what side of the fence were you on when super ugly drop what side of the fence
was I on I was never important question you fly over can I get some alcohol I
mean of course you do. What are you doing?
What are you doing?
They got wine.
Don't treat our guests like this.
Not out of a plastic cup like the rest of us do either.
Nah, we're going to hit the wine, man.
Yeah, come on.
Yo, don't do that again either.
I didn't like how we was represented just now.
They shouldn't have to ask for the wine.
You can't bring the wine and they have to ask for it.
Yeah, come on, man.
This guy's showing me a fucking black diamond in the club.
You guys got washing machines in the operation.
In the club.
There's certain things we got to clean up around here, Joe.
Hey, we got to wash and dry in here.
We got to wash and dry in here. we got a wash and dry get out of here
shit gotta get clean
shit gotta get clean
Steve
see hey
and you come from
the humble beginnings
of hip hop
I don't want to ask you
about where you
fountain ours at
but it was
it was a wash and dry
around probably
it was a wash and dry
definitely around
yeah come on man
Steve we come from
humble beginnings
at this podcast
we do
and our old spot was a lot smaller than this
It did you
And we just made magic
Out of a really small spot
So we got to this new spot right
After the Spotify deal
All that shit that imploded we got here
And we had a minor
Some minor issues
With our co-hosts
Our normal co-hosts of however many years.
And Ish and Ice are doing me the solid of filling in while whatever internal issues get handled.
So they're not normal podcasters.
They're hip-hop lovers.
I hate podcasts, actually.
But they're not normal.
So how did you?
I mean, what?
I hate podcasts, actually. But they're not normal.
So how did you, I mean, what?
How did you get you into this gig, man?
It's a favor, one.
But the typical conversation is normal barbershop shit.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like that we discuss or that we cover is normal stuff that we talk about on a day-to-day basis
just shooting the shit
in the house
playing cards.
You think niggas
are going to come through
with the rock child on you?
Nah, nah.
They don't come through
that with the barbershop.
Somebody did that.
Yeah, yeah.
It's actually good.
So that's where we land.
It's fantastic.
What are you talking about?
My bad.
I thought you were
one of the personal guests
to have here.
That's nice.
Thank you.
Yeah, of course, man.
I come with gifts.
Big personality. I need to get one of those little party cases. That's nice. Thank you. Yeah, of course, man. I come with gifts. Big personality.
I need to get one of those little party cases.
That's a nice little party case.
Big personality.
I come with the full package.
He had the bag specific for liquor and cigars.
That was fancy.
That was a nice bag, though.
That was a nice bag.
A little alligator.
That was nice.
Steve, what's happening with United Masters?
What's going on with United Masters?
What's going on is we got just past a million artists united on our platform.
All independent artists.
Come on, applause, man.
Me and A.R.
One million artists.
Well, before you.
I got to say one million.
You got to keep making me say one million.
For those who are not.
How many artists?
One million.
Okay, now.
All right.
That's a lot of artists. That is a lot. I use DistroKid. Why are you better than DistroKid? Well, million. Okay, now. All right. That's a lot of artists.
That is a lot.
I use DistroKid.
Why are you better than DistroKid?
Well, wait.
Before you answer, can you...
Would you radio attack?
No, I'm ready to attack.
That's a good question.
That's a good question.
It's decent.
For people who are not familiar, can you at least...
Can you give them some...
What is...
Like, if I've never heard of United Artists, can you tell me...
You said expelled?
Expelled.
Expelled.
I'm double checking.
He's a rich bastard.
He's a rich bastard, this guy.
United Masters is distribution.
If you want to distribute music and get it on the DSPs, Apple, Spotify, Amazon Music, Deezer and others
you go through
United Masters
rather than signing
a record deal
you can go through
United Masters
go through your phone
get the music uploaded
on the DSPs
and then start to earn
money on your songs
so an artist
can't do that themselves
like an artist can't
you just can't go to
Apple and upload
the music directly
no I'm just saying
I'm not
they can try to do it themselves you have to go through a service to do that like okay right You just can't go to Apple and upload music directly. No, I'm just saying, I'm not ignoring it.
They can try to do it themselves.
You have to go through a service to do that.
Okay.
Right?
You have to go through an incubator service to do that, a distributor.
We happen to be the best at it.
So you answer your question about DistroKid.
Or anyone.
It's not a specific.
Or anyone or two.
Whatever.
They all do one side of what their business do.
It's very similar.
They do distribution.
But we have an agency built inside of United Masses called Translation.
Okay.
And this agency represents the biggest brands, AT&T, State Farm, the NBA, ESPN, the Knicks.
And as an example, and what we have on one side is artists, a million artists.
And I always look at artists as creating cultural currency.
They always create trends.
We have that on one side.
And on the other side, we have brands.
And this creates a marketplace where they can work together.
And they work together.
And we coordinate that all within our offices.
Okay.
So having those level of brand opportunities is much more unique than what those other services have.
Yeah, they don't do much.
They just put you out there.
Well, that's your problem because you're over there.
That's true.
Touche.
Touche.
Touche.
You can't say that to people, man.
No, you can't.
You really can't say that to people.
No, that's what you're supposed to do. He asked me a very tough question. He got a you can't. You really can't say that to people. That's what you're supposed to do.
He asked me a very tough question.
He got a million artists.
You said that's a tough question.
I'm like, no, it's not.
He got a million artists.
He got a million artists.
He can say that.
That's funny.
He can say that.
No, you bum.
You over there.
You over there.
That's funny.
I didn't say that.
I wouldn't do that.
But now, your position, like you just said to Parks, that's your problem. You're say nothing. I wouldn't do that. But now, but now,
your position,
like you just said to Parks,
that's your problem,
you're over there.
I would assume.
I want you over here.
I want to get all the artists
over here.
I would assume
that your position
creates enemies
with,
with distribution.
Yo,
this,
I'm just showing everybody
the fact that
you definitely put me in a wine glass and it says
Chrisette Michelle, the artist on it.
That's the Chrisette Michelle one.
That's branding.
Is that true?
That's branding.
Look what you brought to the game. Is that true? That's branding.
Come on.
Look what you brought to the game.
Look what you did to the game.
I was just honoring your legacy, you know?
Don't, the position you sit in,
doesn't it put you at odds with some of the distributors and labels?
Like labels hate you, right?
Well, the labels I'm sure don't like
our positioning. They hate you. Well well the labels are starting to do things like buy
independent record companies now because they realize they just bought a wall um sony did they
realize that they got to start this is the future right the fastest growing segment in the music
business are independent artists so they didn't like me in the beginning but
they're actually starting to buy those companies. They don't like you now Steve.
They still don't like you. That may have something to do with just me personally.
But outside of that part of it I think that the industry is morphing and changing
it's no different Joe speaking of not people, the way people feel about you.
Yeah.
Because you still not like me.
No, they don't like me.
Especially this week.
And why would they like Joe?
Well, because Joe decided
that he didn't want to sign a deal and do the status quo,
that he wanted to be independent
and control his future.
These are the values that I've been speaking about for years.
This is actually what connected us.
Because I wasn't really a fan of Joe as a rapper or anything of that matter.
But as Joe morphed into his new role in chapter in life.
And can I tell you guys that all the executives say that about Joe the rapper.
Yeah.
I wasn't into Joe the rapper.
But as he changed, what he says and what he's talking about is crazy.
And as soon as we met, we were meeting up in Harlem.
We met a few times.
We were just talking.
I was like, what he's going to do and where his heart is at is going to be part of tomorrow.
And it was exactly what I wanted to do at United Masses.
And the fact that he just did the deal with Patreon, it's going to fuck things up.
Because now you have the next wave of creators saying i could do that
too with the deal that i announced uh recently uh with apple being an investor in united masters
what makes this important is now what i'm saying and what they're saying is it's an option to go
independent like if you go to a major label that's one option but just because you go independent. Like, if you go to a major label, that's one option.
But just because
you go independent
doesn't mean you have,
you don't have
the same opportunities.
Prior, you think
if you go independent,
you're definitely
going to get jerked
on the opportunities.
You're not going to get
a shot to get this.
It won't work.
Yeah, but now
what we're saying is,
what my goal is
is to not say,
you know,
fuck the record companies,
but it's just one option.
You can go take an advance
and sign your rights away
or you can control your rights,
come to the United Masses
and get similar opportunities.
Gotcha.
That's the goal.
Gotcha.
Right?
And I think that's what,
Joe,
you're building
what you're doing now
and you want people to say
you could sign this company
or that company
or you can be independent own your
rights it may take longer to make the money but you own yourself in perpetuity and there's value
to that absolutely that's what i think that's what joe thinks all the value is but my stance
today steve is i can't convince people of that anymore like i can't twist people's arm to know where the value is uh to tell them how
they should go about their business but the shit that you just named is the shit that i've been on
is the shit i'll continue to be on and that's just i'm not wavering on some of that like that's where
i come from i've did the majors i've done the independent independent. I see where I like. I see where I'm happy.
I see where I land.
And some of those ideologies are present in podcasting as well.
You know, some people, if you're not really talented and you don't believe that you're going to make it,
it might be the right idea to just take the bag because you don't believe in yourself.
That might be the better financial decision.
Sure.
But if you're committed to your craft and you believe in yourself.
And you work hard.
And you work hard for sure.
Yeah.
It makes no sense to take short money.
What is their question, if that's the case?
Because there's a lot of people that believe in themselves and have talent.
It's the work hard part that separates, I think, in my opinion, the people that make it long term.
But I'll tell you this right now.
But I don't care if you have a record deal or you have a podcast deal.
If you are not using your social tools and you are not working hard at marketing yourself, it ain't going to work anyway.
You can have a record deal.
If you're not using your social media in a way to engage your audience, you're not going
to get shit done.
The same thing with podcasts and everything else.
So the bets on you are no matter what.
Working hard is batteries included now.
This ain't back in the days where you just show up and somebody just put makeup on you
and slap an outfit on you and be like, go mtv and get it done right no you gotta work
you gotta do the work anyway yeah that exists in the major label system for sure speaking of
speaking of doing the work i'll share with you a private conversation that i shouldn't share
probably is it private not between you and i but i had this conversation with someone else in
confidence and i'll share pieces of it with you thank you just to see you respond in real time
no problem i was talking to a friend of mine and they were telling me that there was a zoom call someone else in confidence and I'll share pieces of it with you. Thank you. Just to see you respond in real time. No problem.
I was talking to a friend of mine and they were telling me that there was a
zoom call recently.
It was a very important zoom call.
What I'm learning as somebody that's trying to get as much money as y'all is
y'all have secrets.
Y'all,
y'all,
you know,
you're in the y'all,
you're in the y'all,
but y'all,
the,
you know,
Joe acts broke.
I'm going to see how long you're gonna keep pulling this joke
you
puff
hold
it's a different
it's a different type of money
it's a different type
I don't know
and that's a solution
yeah yeah
you've been doing it a long time
so listen
so they was telling me
about a zoom call
and it was a zoom call
like for some
important matter
that Brokey shouldn't be involved
right
and it was you
let's make up some names yeah yeah puff hold some important matter that Brokey shouldn't be involved in, right? And it was you.
Let's make up some names.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hove, some important figures.
Yeah.
And y'all were supposed to speak about New York issues.
Yeah.
Is this ringing a bell yet?
From the first time, the first word you said. The person that was telling me the story laughed because it's you
let's say Hove and Puff
speaking about very important New York
issues
but you looked
wealthy in Miami by a beach
front. Hove looked
wealthy by a beach front that
wasn't New York and Puff looked
wealthy by a beach front
that wasn't New York and the person had to by a beachfront that wasn't New York.
And the person had to say, yo, dogs,
you niggas gotta go change.
Y'all have to change.
You can't fight for these
New York policies and all
this important shit.
We're going. Just let it roll.
That's true.
Well, part of it's true. The part that's true. Well, part of it is true.
The part that's true was that we actually do care about New York city.
And we did have a conversation about New York and you know,
what's good.
How's New York going to return post COVID.
Um,
and that really matters.
That's what we got on this call.
And we,
we,
we taped this for,
for that reason.
Now,
if you look at that and you go, Oh, well look what he has, or look what he has on, and they don't look like they care, there's no other reason to do it.
Like, I can't not be who I am.
I came from Queens.
I went to five colleges.
I didn't graduate.
And you know the whole story.
It's documented what I did.
It's not like I just got to the the in front
the beach thing I love New York City New York City and every dirty piece of shit
version of it has helped me get to where I am and what I don't want is for New
York to fuck around and turn into Detroit because you know people start to
leave and it ends up getting fucked up and it's's a concerning, it's very concerning to Puff.
It's very concerning to Jade.
It's very concerning to Nas.
It's concerning to a lot, whether you live in New York or not.
Why is it concerning to people that don't live in New York?
Because New York, there's something about New York that you take with you no matter where you go.
Got it.
New York pride.
You take it no matter where you go, man.
And you don't ever want that to go nowhere.
That's why.
So do you think that new entrepreneurs
that bump into
their first bit of money
should stay in New York?
No, it's not about staying in New York.
No, no. That's a separate point. I'm asking.
I'm asking, do you...
When you talk about a state in New York and the future
of New York, do you see new, young, black entrepreneurs staying in New York with their new wealth?
Because that's the conversation I'm having with a lot of people out there.
This is my problem.
out of this is just raising the taxes ridiculously and making it so that you have to pay 70% of your money to live in New York and get shitty services, then no, they shouldn't be
in New York.
If New York is going to cost so much to live in it and what you get back out of it doesn't
return, no, you shouldn't live in New York.
Okay.
Why is that new?
It's always been
that no no they're raising outside of the tax issue it's always been cramped
it's always been expensive expensive as fuck mmm and what you get for your
dollar hasn't ever really been a thing New York is living off of New York I
disagree with you I disagree with you.
I disagree with you because
it's expensive but rich with opportunity.
I agree.
So that's that.
So is it the metropolitan area
then you mean?
You can haul ass to New Jersey and have that.
You're going to be very specific.
No, no, no. I'm from Jersey.
I'm from Jersey. You know the saying that like that I'm from Jersey
you know the taxes
in Jersey is high too
higher
the highest
and you don't get shit
you get a yard
nigga don't do that
we got a parking spot
I got a yard
okay how about
opportunities
Steve it's 10 minutes
but it's right there
it's 10 minutes
no but I'm just saying
it's New Jersey though
I can get crickets
but I can get to New York
faster than New Yorkers.
Exactly.
Explain that.
I can walk.
I can walk to New York.
I can walk to New York City from my house.
You can take a backseat.
No, I don't have to take a ferry or nothing.
I can walk to New York City and be there faster than the person in Queens trying to get to Manhattan.
That's what I mean.
Oh, you can get to the city faster.
In distance, proximity.
Yeah, that's what I mean. Oh, you can get to the city faster. And distance, proximity.
Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
That was my question.
Like, yo, are you speaking from the tri-state area when you say New York?
Yeah.
Is rich with opportunity?
I'm saying that New York City is rich with opportunity, full stop.
Got you.
I agree.
It is.
And all of the places that are in close proximity to it all benefit from that.
If we lose that, it's fucked up.
Yeah.
That's all I'm saying.
I agree. And if they raise taxes to the point where all of these companies leave, it turns those opportunities.
I agree.
And then all of a sudden, New Jersey is not New Jersey anymore.
Because New Jersey is great because it's proximity to New York.
I agree with you.
But if New Jersey has proximity to Detroit, then you become Cleveland.
I agree.
Yeah, good point.
I agree.
Can I tell you my favorite Steve Stout story in the past two years?
That's not personal between us.
Oh, my God.
I was sitting home.
Yo, you the man.
You've caused me so much joy that you don't know about.
I was sitting home
watching first take.
And you popped up.
And I was like, oh, that's my
man Steve.
And I'm a Knicks fan.
So I want to hear what he got to say.
You know this incident?
And you went on there talking a whole bunch of shit you shouldn't have said.
And then they snatched your ass off of that screen and never let you talk again for the
Knicks.
And I said, see, can't have no hip hop nigga up there talking real talk about no team.
Yeah.
That was one of my favorite moments because you was up there kicking it like we kick it.
Well, it was very, it was hot on that set.
First of all, I think Stephen A is fantastic.
He is.
He is fucking great.
He's fantastic.
He's from Queens.
And underpaid.
And from Queens.
He's the man.
Yeah.
And.
Huge inspiration.
You know, I enjoy doing the marketing for the Knicks.
I love the Knicks.
I mean, I grew up in New York.
I love the Knicks.
I think it's smart for them to have you.
Yeah.
I told you that before.
But, and you see what's happening this season.
It's amazing.
The way they're playing, playing hard.
Man, it'd be even more amazing if they drafted Tyler Hansberry, whatever his name is in Sacramento.
But we'll talk about that.
But Leon and Wes have done an amazing job.
Shit.
They're killing.
Coach, Tibbs, the whole thing is just ridiculous.
It's great.
It's clicking.
It's clicking.
And when fans come back, forget it.
It's going to be great.
The Garden's going to feel magical.
So we're not going to see you at the Barclays.
I saw you.
I bumped into you at the Barclays.
That was D-Way's last game.
Oh, yeah.
That was a great night.
D-Way's last game. Yeah, it was a great night. Real good night. Yeah. So no more Barclays. That was D-Way's last game. Oh, yeah. That was a great night. D-Way's last game.
Yeah, it was a great night.
Real good night.
So no more Barclays for you?
Nah, I'm a Knicks.
I'm running with the Knicks.
I'm not going.
We don't go to the Barclays.
We go to the Barclays to see the Knicks.
Yeah, when the Knicks play.
Yeah.
When the Knicks play.
Yeah.
What else do I need to ask Steve about?
There's so much shit to get into with you.
Is there any nice stuff I need to know from Steve? Uh-uh to know from steve there's no no shit there's no no the grammy win
things let's talk about money is ruining my life independence is ruining my life no it's
all of this stuff that i stand for is ruining my fucking life why man because as i attempt to to
and this is too much real talk now as i attempt to
build a business or be an entrepreneur or stand by some of my some of my codes and morals that i
live by it is causing an issue with people that i may have grown up with let's say that there we go
it's like when i got a record deal some of the people that i was
doing breaking and enterings with and robbing gas stations with they maybe didn't understand the move
i'm serious they didn't get you right so now here we go right and let's not even get to now a few
years ago there was some people in my life that was like
yo man you doing all right so i should be doing all right and i and i tried to explain taxes to
them in that moment that's a bad idea it's a bad conversation to have steve when you're talking
about somebody you grew up with well they're like we used to rob gas stations why are you talking
about tax we shared cupcakes together we have we've done everything together
and you telling me about taxes right now so i mean at every step of the way there's been like
a huge lesson for me to learn right and i learned from guys like you whole pup the people that have
andre harrell rest in peace my god like the people that yeah we don't even need to get there but the
people that yeah i mean y'all and when you try to implement some of that stuff today,
you're dealing with internet kids, and it's just a different time.
It's different than y'all doing it in the 90s and doing it today.
I think that's never changed, Joe.
There's always going to be a survivor's remorse.
That was the show.
LeBron and Maverick Carter did Survivor's Remorse.
A guy who made it, and it was all of the unintended effects of making it.
Look, I just read this last night, man.
Can you believe Kobe's mother-in-law, his wife, Vanessa's mom, is suing the estate?
She's suing her daughter?
Look at that.
For watching the kids?
She's suing her daughter?
Look at that.
For watching the kids?
I mean, these are real, real things that you can't even, you know, once money gets involved, unfortunately all bets are off.
You don't know who your friends are until there's money or women involved.
I know, but I'm asking you how you deal with that.
How have you dealt with that?
You probably give it because you love somebody.
You give them the benefit of the doubt.
But then it becomes a thing where
you can't move.
I mean, you have no options.
You're back against the wall.
Either you're going to stay still
and stuck in the moment,
or you're going to figure out,
yo, we got to cut ties.
We got to move on, man.
When you have a relationship with somebody and every single time y'all talk, everything is like, remember the time when we, remember the time when we, it's time to go.
You ain't got no new conversation.
You ain't got no new words, man.
You need some new words.
Damn it, that hurts what you said.
Chrisette Michelle, hey.
He's absolutely right though no no no
I understand
on the Denzel movie
when he's like
yo what you gonna do
your success
took a shot at you
what you gonna do
be unsuccessful
you can't be stagnant
cause everybody
can't grow with you
you gotta grow
and that's gonna mean
letting some people
fall by the wayside
it's hard
that you grew up and you don't wanna feel like a sellout you're like everybody you shit it on And that's going to mean letting some people fall by the wayside. It's hard.
That you grew up with. And you don't want to feel like a seller.
You're like everybody you shit it on.
You feel like a hypocrite.
And you know what, Joe?
You're focused on what you're doing.
This craft, you got one shot to get this right and change your family's fortunes forever.
Right?
And you got to finish this job.
And you got to finish it off.
And if anybody gets in the way of that, they're going to have to deal with it and see you later, man.
This is what it is.
That's how I feel, but it hurts.
The process hurts.
That is how I feel.
The process hurts.
But, man, it hurts.
The process hurts.
That's it.
I mean, that's it.
The real ones understand, man.
I got family members who really go, okay.
They didn't understand for a while.
And then it turns over time.
They're like, oh shit, now I understand really what you're doing.
There's a couple things that happen and they go, oh, it could be things in their life that get them more mature.
Or they see you ascending to a place where people are like, oh shit, you're related to Steve Stout.
And they go, he really wasn't fucking around
15 years ago
when he said
this that and the third
my mom used to be mad at me a lot
because I'm like
why don't
you know
go to more family events
go to this
and I'm like
nah I gotta go
to see Nas
and that
like that was more important
than the family event
and they made me feel bad
about that
and now they understand
right and imagine if I didn't about that and now they understand.
Right?
And imagine if I didn't do it and didn't have a chance
for them ever to understand
I just lost the opportunity.
Opportunities aren't waiting for you, Joe.
Let me ask you though
do you think they're more open
to understanding it
because now
mommy doesn't have a mortgage?
I think
You get what I'm saying?
Well, I think
in the mommy part of it
Well, once you see it working Yeah, once you see I think once That's my I'm saying? Well, I think... In the money part of it... Well, once you see it working...
Yeah, once you see...
I think once...
That's my point, though.
Once they reap...
Once they see it working,
it doesn't necessarily have to work.
If it has to work for them,
that's a different selfish shit.
But then they get...
But then it's crystal clear to them, though.
I'm just saying,
if it's crystal clear to them,
not because you paid for their mortgage,
but because they see that you're succeeding.
Oh, because it's crystal clear.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm just saying, it doesn't have to be clear only if it's to their benefit.
If they love you, they should be happy for you.
My mom understood what was going on before I bought her house.
She knew what was going on.
Your mother's different, though.
Your mother's way more insightful than most.
Well, I'm saying that because even our parents, my parents are, I won't say their age, but
they're older.
My mother's insightful. What are you talking about? I don't know your mother, parents, I won't say their age, but they're old. My mother's insightful.
What are you talking about?
I'm not.
I don't know your mother, Steve.
I don't know your mother, Steve.
I'm just saying.
I'm not taking a shot at you.
Wait, wait.
It felt like that.
I am the one talking to my mother.
What the fuck are you talking about, nigga?
There's always the most light-skinned motherfucker talking to me.
I don't want you. You're a fucking light-skinned motherfucker. I Oh my God. Light-skinned nigga from the back. Yeah. Ay-yi-yi.
That's funny, yo.
You still work with the Trackmasters?
Tone.
Tone is my best friend, man.
Yeah.
Don't work with them anymore.
Tone is a friend of mine.
I feel like they're underrated.
Underrated?
I can't do that.
Underappreciated, baby.
Underappreciated.
Oh, no, yeah.
Well, I definitely want them to get that verses off with them.
Sexy thing. I wanted to get that verses off with um that's what you want now that's what you're doing yeah jermaine you don't know nothing about this hold up hold up for me mic check y'all man
hey this is the remix by the way this is the remix some of y'all don't know they sold remixes separately back then.
It's almost a different song.
Come on, man.
You know a little bit
about this, right?
Yeah, you 47, nigga.
Yeah, Steve was working
in hip-hop with his drop.
You an old fuck.
Not that old, but yeah.
This is 92.
Yeah.
92?
How old were you in 92
92
really
yeah
I started when I was 21
I started when I was 21
in the record business
as Kid and Play's
road manager
first time
I went up to
Uptown Records
was the day
that Magic Johnson
said he had AIDS
and I watched it
in Puffy's office
it was Puffy who I just met, Andre Harrell.
My man.
And we all sat there, and we watched him.
He had a press conference.
But he had AIDS.
And that was like, when I had been in the music business,
like maybe seven months before that.
I was in 12th grade.
Yeah.
I didn't say my age.
I'm chilling.
I'm going to tell grade yeah I'm gonna say my age I'm chilling I was I'm gonna tell you something
I learned about uh I think about this all the time about um this idea of fame and just completely
changing subjects but I used to watch kid and play and they had lost their way as musicians
and they were walking around
and people would go up to them
and ask them for their autograph.
And every time people
asked them for their autograph,
in their minds,
it was like,
oh shit, we poppin'.
And you realize
that people would ask you
for your autograph,
but they would never
buy your shit.
They just would ask you
for your autograph.
And it's the same thing now
with followers and likes and shit. They don't give a for your autograph. And it's the same thing now with followers and likes and shit.
They don't give a fuck about you because
all of a sudden you have all these followers,
you have all these likes, and then you drop a song
and you try to sell some skincare or some
bullshit, and the shit don't break out.
It don't even matter. And you're like, well,
I have this many people following me. How come they don't care?
Because they really aren't into
you like that. There's people who like
you, and there's people who like you and there's
people who love you it's funny you say that at united masters are you attempting to target true
talent or are you attempting to target musicians that have numbers behind them i am trying to i
am first of all we're a platform i'm not targeting anybody it's everyone it's everyone i'm not
targeting anybody if you want to if you want to get your music distributed and you have 20 fans
or you have 2 million fans, man, do your thing.
So it's not you soliciting actively?
I'm not soliciting actively, no.
Do you take a percentage or is it like a fee base?
There's choice.
You could pay $5 a month and keep 100% of your money or you can pay free up front and you get 90% and we get 10%.
Does either of those impact the licensing part?
No. Okay. No, not at all all i'm paying you five dollars a month you can pay five dollars a month
that's pretty vital
what we doing we're not doing anything amazing they got apple invested in the company
google invested in the company andreessen harwood's invested in the company. Andreessen Horowitz invested in the company. I'm certainly not fucking around.
I got great technology behind the company.
There's no, it's all real.
You can check it every sideways, upside down.
It's all good.
And I don't care what anybody says.
I took the long route.
I've been doing this shit since I was 21 years old.
I took the fucking long route.
Every single stone, I turned over.
Every step of the way.
What do you think about, just on a general hip hop question,
what do you think about all of the rappers and all of the gun charges
that are happening currently?
Are you aware?
If you're not, I can tell you.
I'm very aware.
What do you think about that?
Is that what's the term? aware if you're not i can tell you i'm very aware like what do you think about that is that uh is that uh targeting targeting are we complicit as a culture in that um is that the new
uh concoction for success moving forward like it seems we're targeting less musicians and more people with stories to sell.
Well, Joe, the long version of that theory is
fame and talent always had a relationship,
always had a great relationship.
And in the last, I'd say, 10 years,
fame has told talent, I got you. Peace.
Peace out.
Motherfuckers will set themselves on fire for fame.
If you're talent, you're not even- We've seen it.
You don't even know what to do.
Literally.
No, we touched on that earlier.
Yeah.
Fame versus talent, man.
They at war.
They used to be co-conspirators.
Now they're at war.
And fame, and people are like, I'm running for-
Once the public started incentivizing fame,
talent had to take an L.
Right.
And talent's taking
an L right now.
Now,
there's obviously
going to be great talent
that is bigger than life.
But I'm just saying,
generally speaking,
you know,
you watch people
who are talented
have to do things
to be famous
because if they can't
get the fame part off,
you know,
you got to get attention,
man.
These kids are putting guns in videos and doing everything that they're doing.
They get the attention.
If they can get the song off behind it, cool.
But they know that if they put the guns in the video and do all kind of crazy shit, it will get views.
The notoriety.
Yeah, notoriety.
That's right.
It's where we are in culture I mean people you know
people want to put tattoos
all over their
bodies and faces
and then shit like that
I mean
people are like
oh shit who's that
a nigga who's stupid
with a fucking tattoo
on his face
well these kids believe
you know
fame by any means necessary
yeah
but again
whatever I gotta do to get it
that translates
all genres of music that's
not a hip-hop thing i think it's a societal thing no i think it's no it's it's really bad
it's gonna go it goes into it goes into i agree one fake ass is at 18 in the whole package yes
right this is a societal thing it goes into a crazy crazy thing bro women don't even take
frontal pictures anymore like there are women that don't even take frontal pictures anymore.
Like, there are women that won't take a frontal picture.
They got to turn to the side or they got to look over their shoulder because that's where you get the likes and the notoriety from.
And they're making more money than talented people.
Oh, you mean that show their ass.
Yeah, like they're making a shitload of money.
So how do you knock it?
Definitely making more money than DJs.
Yeah, so how do you knock it at that point?
Yo, what's wrong with you knock it? Definitely making more money than DJs. Yeah, so how do you knock it at that point? Yo, what's wrong with you, man?
Yo,
Chrisette Michelle
got you boxed.
You can't target the DJs.
I'm saying these girls
used to see
The girls are making
all the money.
Used to see,
yo,
go to this club
featuring DJ blah, blah, blah.
Then all of a sudden
it changed to the girl.
No, the bartenders.
Yeah.
Not even now.
Now you got the Instagram model who's just there.
They became big enough DJs.
She's not even doing nothing.
That's what I want to ask you about.
Instagram models make more money than DJs.
I've seen it.
Facts.
Facts.
Make more money than some artists.
Let's stay here for a second.
Yeah.
I don't know your marital situation.
I don't know if you're single or not.
I'm married.
You know that.
Don't try to act like you don't know how to hit me with the curveball. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know your marital situation. I don't know if you're single or not. I'm married. You know that. Don't try to act like you don't know how to hit me with the curveball.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know your marital situation.
I'm single, jaded, scarred.
Fuck these bitches.
I'm looking for love in all the wrong places.
I'm open to the 39-year-old, the 26-year-old.
I'm open.
I'm looking.
I'm searching.
You're doing the whole MILF program.
All right.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
And I'm a DILF.
I'm a DILF.
You don't think I'm DILFy?
You don't think I'm giving them DILFy vibes?
I'm not a dad they want to bone, huh?
Huh?
I can't tell.
Hey, if my oldest son have a bad night with the condom, I'm going to be something else.
I'm going to be a growth.
I'm going to be a growth.
Something like that.
In your social travels, though, as of late, have you seen, and I'm going to try to ask this safely.
Yeah.
And you can skip it if you need to.
I will. yeah and you can skip it if you need to i will have you seen a change in interaction since
the women have come up financially without the men like the women are getting to their own bags
they millionaires alone just in your travels have you seen their stance and position
change and be executed differently or expressed differently to men
who may have felt like they had to one up financially in years past right that was a
safe way to ask that yeah you know what because i see it i really and you in miami nigga you see
it too no no i would like yeah but i don't see that interaction where the girl makes more money than the guy and therefore how they communicate in the
dialogue happens is different i haven't seen that yet okay not even but i'm sure it's but i just i
haven't seen it but you're asking but i understand the question i would like to know how would that
is what he's in miami it's going to be hard for him to see he has friends he goes to a club no
i'm not but, at his level...
That nigga was with the owner of Kmart
last time I seen him.
And Tony was like, yo, this nigga owns Kmart.
Wow!
He's not a $300,000
a year dude, right?
Debatable. I don't know what he makes.
I don't know. I don't know if he
makes 300 grand. Alright, you just said he's
a part of them. Looks wealthy to just said he's a part of them.
He looks wealthy to me.
He's a part of them.
He has a little shirt.
Look at his shirt.
Exactly.
A bottle bag.
Guys, look at you guys.
Look at him.
A pink Margiela.
I had the pink Margiela.
Come on, man.
I think you have the money.
Back to what I was saying, right?
So to ask Steve that question, because we were going to address this earlier, right?
To ask Steve that question, he might be coming from a point of reference
that not that many women
can pull a card on him.
I didn't think they pulled it on him.
I just thought he might have been around.
I didn't see it, though.
I just thought he might have saw it happen.
But my circle is doing it.
Exactly.
So they're not, you know what I'm saying?
The chick's not pulling a card on my circle.
That's a stunt.
That's a stunt.
That's a real open flex.
My whole circle doing it.
So, no, I don't see it.
Mama, put your card back in the deck when it comes to me and my circle.
Yeah.
It's true.
It's true.
It's true.
It's true.
It's true.
You know what I'm saying?
That's what I'm saying.
I get it.
It's true.
Yeah.
They're not doing that.
Did you see this year's Grammys at all?
You got it? Got it.
Say less.
No, it was quiet.
I was quiet on it.
I seen some of the show.
I seen some of the performances after.
I didn't watch it live.
I wanted to see some of the performances afterwards because of, you know,
specifically Cardi's because it was talked about a lot.
So I wanted to see that
and Little Baby's performance
because I wanted to see that
because people said it was dope.
What do you think about Cardi and Meg
gyrating on each other on CBS?
That CBS knows they need to do that.
Got it.
Yep.
Yep.
Got it.
Power hip hop.
Yeah.
CBS knows they need to do that and if cbs
don't do that they don't show up and if they don't show up they don't have to show yeah so
this is the problem right so that cbs becomes complicit um and yet's the other thing that you
know people become more look man back in the days joe remember all these rappers get these deals
and then uh you know rick ross says one thing and they drop him from Reebok and they drop.
Motherfuckers could say anything right now.
Nobody's dropping anybody.
Nobody's doing shit.
Really?
No.
Unless it shows up in the New York Times, no one's dropping anybody.
Everybody's with everything.
Because they know, like, the rules, the goalposts are moving right
what is too sexy
what is too far
look what she's doing
look what she's doing
what is too sexy
what is too far
what isn't
you know
what is
how does
remember they never used to curse
on television
then all of a sudden
it was like
did he just say shit
did he just say bitch on NBC no fuck, shit, motherfucker. Did he just say bitch on NBC?
No, it's not in that Channel 7, though.
No, not Channel 7.
Channel 7 says shit.
No, they definitely say shit.
They say shit on Channel 7.
I heard a bitch.
They say damn and bitch.
They say damn and bitch.
Yeah, I'm trying to say.
I know that.
And when we were young, they would never.
Yeah, that's for real.
When I was coming up watching TV, they wouldn't even show two parents in the same bedroom.
They was doing all kind of, they would just show the show.
They wouldn't even let them cut inside the bedroom.
Like, you wouldn't show a couple in bed.
They would never do that.
Then it just changed over time.
Standards change because, you know what?
If the audience don't want to see it and they check out, your job is to keep adding more and more layers to it to make it engaged.
Because if it's not, look, they're stripping on stage, man.
They're trying to make it controversial.
That'll make them tune in.
Whatever it takes to get that bag.
That's true.
Whatever it takes to get that bag.
But again, that's kind of what we addressed earlier
with regards to Deshaun.
As long as that money is coming in,
Houston Texans could really give a fuck
if he molests 7,000 nuns.
As long as it don't go public.
You know what I'm saying?
They're going to keep it from going public.
We'll put ice on it.
You get what I'm saying?
And so now, it's a societal thing.
Where the moral compass is skewed
along with the money.
Now I'm with you.
The moral compass has become
a moving target
yeah
weekly
daily
man
I'm in the advertising business
these guys walk around
like
when you buy
media
a company will say
I want to buy
this many impressions
and they spend the money
for the impressions
and they'll buy it on
you know
some digital sites
digital networks and they just want to for the impressions and they'll buy it on some digital sites,
digital networks.
And they just want to reach an audience and a target for a number as cheap as possible.
Then all of a sudden you find out
that your ad is running before a beheading on YouTube.
You never gave a fuck until it ran
and the New York Times wrote that story about it. Now all of a sudden you go, we don't want to run any advertising on YouTube. You never gave a fuck until it ran and the New York Times
wrote that story about it.
Now all of a sudden you go,
we don't want to run
any advertising on YouTube.
You didn't give a fuck.
You didn't even check before.
What I said.
This is the Nike Little Nas X shit.
You only care
until it becomes public.
This is what he's saying.
It's the exact same thing.
Nobody cares.
That's the Nike Little Nas X shit.
It's when it shows up
in the New York Times
and you could lose your job and all of a sudden you act like you care. And you're stunned, by the way. It's when it shows up in the New York Times and you could lose your job
and all of a sudden
you act like you care.
And you're stunned,
by the way.
That's part of the whole reaction
thing is like,
oh, I had no idea.
But you didn't give a fuck.
Of course you had no idea.
You didn't care.
You just bought
as much media as you can
as cheap as possible
and whatever
on the edge programming.
Look, people ran ads on
the Grammys and they look what they were doing
yes I'm chasing the faith but but but now if the New York Times writes in that
day the Grammys had sexual content on it it was laying and all of a sudden
becomes a problem all the advertisers we're not running anything on the
Grammys again until we see what the performances are up front. That's how it works.
It's shoot first, ask questions later.
Yeah.
That's my issue.
That's crazy.
It's my issue though with CBS.
So, and what's going on with Lil Nas X?
Well.
Do you think Nike had some, you think Nike had some wind of what was going on?
And now they're trying to dissociate themselves from it?
I don't know if Nike had any, I think what Lil Nas X did,
I think Lil Nas X is a low-key Tekashi 6ix9ine type of,
from a marketing perspective,
and figuring out how to get attention around themselves.
They both have done really good jobs at that,
whether you like their music or not.
And do I think Nike had something to do with that?
No.
Did I think Nike know about it?
No.
Would Nike have cared if it didn't get media attention?
No.
Now that it got media attention and the devils,
Satan and all that, now they got to deal with it.
But had it not had that, now they got to deal with it.
But had it not had that, they wouldn't have cared.
They did a Jesus shoe with holy water and they didn't care.
Same company.
As soon as you hear the word Satan.
It's different though.
It's a whole different story.
You can't compare the Jesus shoe to the Satan shoe that has blood coming in a vial.
Nike's standpoint, they don't care regardless until the negative press starts rolling in.
Let me just tell the idiots out there.
I don't know who's making the shoe.
I'm shocked that you idiots believe that a drop of real blood is going in each pair of these shoes.
Y'all are really stupid. Whose blood it was.
They are.
What happened?
They came out and said whose blood it was.
It's the company member's blood.
Allegedly. It's a company member's blood, allegedly.
It's a drop of air.
I don't care.
Just the fact that you thought... How about the fact that we're talking about it?
Word.
That's all they wanted.
That's all they wanted.
There we go.
That's real.
We just said earlier that people will set themselves on fire.
Right.
I mean, this is close.
Satan, hell, fire.
This is that.
This is true.
He just went for it.
Like, okay, bro, you got it.
Why we got to get into Satan?
I mean, what are we talking about, man?
And now he has Kirk Franklin on the remix.
Dog, he's land.
Kirk Franklin's on the remix.
Wow.
The remix of what?
The Devil Worshippers?
Are you sure?
This is what he said.
Kirk Franklin's on the remix.
It didn't come out yet.
So it could be trolling.
We don't know.
Bro, he's lap dancing the devil.
We do not know.
On the video.
There it is.
And he got a BBL.
Come on, don't start that again.
Don't start that again.
Yo, if you think Lil Nas X didn't get a BBL, you need to go do some BBL research.
That shit is sitting.
I take your word for it.
Yeah, I'm going to take your word.
It's sitting, man.
I take your word.
You got it, bro.
It's sitting.
You got it. Listen, man, what can take your word. It's sitting, man. I take your word. You got it, bro. It's sitting. You got it.
Listen, man, what can we expect from United Masters moving forward before you leave?
That we're going to really make a difference in the music business.
We're going to teach the next generation of artists to not sign record deals, to own their
futures, own their rights, make the money, bet on themselves, and really democratize
the music business.
That's what I want to do.
I look at all those Prince videos where he started talking about
owning your rights and right slave on his face,
and people thought he was eccentric and bugging out.
And you realize he was just a man who had a vision before it's time.
Before it's time.
And if I do my job correctly,
I will definitely encapsulate all of the energy that he stood for as it
relates to what the music business should be.
So that's what you should expect from me.
Yeah, let that go.
Two, three, four.
Yeah.
A million.
How many artists?
One million users.
Yeah, so a million artists.
And Joe, check out me and Joe
because Joe is standing for independence Joe's about that life Joe walked away from a big bag That's the mic drop right there.
That's the mic drop right there.
That's it right there.
That was great.
They were knocking shit over.
They don't even matter at that point.
Let me hug my guy, man.
Nah, that was great.
That was fucking great.
That was great, man.
You know it's love.
Thank you.
I appreciate you. If you end up in Miami this weekend, let was great, man. You know it's love. Thank you. That was great, man. I appreciate you.
If you end up in Miami
this weekend,
let me know, man.
I'm in New York
and I'll call you tomorrow.
I'll call you tomorrow.
I'll call you two more times
tomorrow.
Yeah, no,
call me tomorrow, man.
Ladies and gentlemen,
round of applause.
The amazing Steve Stout,
thank you for joining us.
Thank you for your intel,
your knowledge, your experience,
your years and years and years in this business, man.
That was hilarious.
No, that was dope.
Yeah, nah.
He gave it up.
He gave it up.
That was dope.
Yeah, Steve is hilarious.
That nigga still crazy.
That nigga sound like money, though.
That nigga sounds like money.
Yeah. I don't even know if he knows that. Nah, he. That nigga sounds like money. Yeah.
I don't even know if he knows that, but.
No, he know.
No, he know.
I don't know if he knows.
I don't know if he does.
No, he know.
But when we hear it, we can tell.
He sounds like money.
We can tell.
Like, when you say, yo, man, can you offer me a drink?
The hospitality wasn't there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was a real low thing, but it told you what me a drink. The hospitality wasn't there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a real low thing,
but it told you what was going on.
When he said,
when you asked him the question,
he said,
my circle doing it, so.
Yeah, he said,
nah, it's not applicable
because my circle,
Yeah, we don't apply to that.
Yeah, my circle,
they can't shine on us.
Right.
That says a lot.
That was cool, man.
I appreciate Steve for stopping by.
I appreciate every time we talk, especially in Miami,
when I know he could be doing something much better.
You just got to stay out of that part of Miami, man.
He trying to tell you where you need to be in Miami.
You in the wrong Miami.
Well, Steve is part of that group that, you know,
when you have enough money to move somewhere so your money can make money,
like all the people moved to whenever this was austin texas
to try to make the new silicon valley yeah now there's a lot of black yeah that's happening now
there's a lot of black millionaires moving to miami to try to form whatever they're trying to
do like steve is part i i have never had that type of money i've never had access to that type of
money and to be honest i've never that type of thinking right yeah that's true like to move
somewhere this this year is the first year where I've said, yo,
LA is not an option for me to move because it costs me money to move there.
It doesn't save me money.
It's not a tax save.
This was the first year I even applied my thinking that way.
Before it was, oh, shit, man, if we up, then we can go to LA.
It's our friends.
But that's not where it is.
That's not where those dudes are. That's not how they got it. That's not what it is. That's not where those dudes are.
That's not how they got it.
That's not what they like.
All you got to do is watch what happened before you to see how you want to move and shake.
I subscribe to that.
I do.
In large part because of guys like Steve, Puff, Hope, Dame, Percy, Baby, whoever it was before.
So you pull what you got to pull from.
And I do appreciate him stopping by.
Ish, you are really funny, man.
You have no idea how funny you are.
And that's what's part of you being funny.
You're crazy, son.
It's me.
Nah, it's me.
I've known you for years.
You were out over.
You that dude, man.
I want to be like you, but you knew that.
I always wanted to be like you.
You knew I always wanted to be like you.
What's the next topic?
We're leaving.
It ain't no topics, nigga.
That's it.
We're playing a song.
We getting the fuck out of here.
That's it.
Let me find a sleeper pick.
This was a really good pod.
A lot of information.
I really appreciate everybody.
Let me try to find a record so we can get to it.
This pod went exactly how I pictured pods going, man.
You guys have really good conversations about really good topics.
This was cool.
I want to thank Steve and Stout.
Steve is funny, man.
Yeah, he is.
Great, bro.
He's funny.
If you don't hate him, you can recognize how funny he is.
Especially in Miami.
I need Munchie to come up here.
I'm going to call Munchie to come up here, man.
So that you can talk about seeing Steve.
Wow.
All right, listen, man.
Ish, thank you.
You can't be here with us Friday, right?
Fuck out of here, nigga.
Why you can't party with us?
Got some things to tell you.
Yeah, we can party Thursday morning.
Look.
Exactly.
Look, look.
Okay.
Look.
What you want me to say, man? Say whatever you have to say to that. We can party Thursday morning. Look. Exactly. Look, look. Okay. Look. What you want me to say?
I'll say whatever you have to say to that.
We can pod Thursday morning.
Thursday, we can come sit here and record.
You can catch a flight.
I have no problems.
I can't do mornings.
No, you can't do mornings.
Oh, wait.
I don't get my vaccine Thursday night.
I'd have to present you guys with a contract.
Then you guys can do Thursdays.
You sure?
You damn right.
You guys can do Thursdays.
I'm for sale.
If I pull this to the side. Let's be clear. Oh, guys could do Thursday I'm for sale if I pull it to the side let's be clear oh wait wait I'm for sale let's be clear
this nigga's a prostitute I'm for sale I'm back hey listen yo this nigga said yo I gotta listen
I got a one-year-old you understand I have a five-year-old it's different it's different
you look at life different you weigh things different fiveyear-old, with a three-year-old. All right.
So that's it, man.
Let me share some shit I shit to share.
Oh, shit. One day, I'm going to do
a whole pod about just
dropping your kid off
during the exchange,
during the drop-off. I can't be on there.
My exchanges
are a whole different level, nigga.
Yo, dawg. I got videos of my exchanges. I whole different level nigga yo dog yo i got videos of my i can't relate
my shit is yeah you can't thank god but it's wrong
yo i have valid arguments in this stuff listen i pull up to the crib
i got my baby my baby's at the age where you know where the fuck he at hey
hey that nigga
hit the window
power deep
alright mom crib
where we at with it
here she come downstairs
alright I'm happy to see you
my baby happy to see you
let me bring my baby
over there to you
and have a quick
three minute talk
about whatever's going on
in life
that I may have missed
cause we not really kicking it.
Because we broke up.
Right.
But in this moment, for five minutes, we should be able to talk.
I bring the baby over.
They run over, hug his mom.
Here she go.
Yo, I'm in a rush.
I got to go upstairs.
Nigga, we don't talk.
What y'all got to talk about?
When?
Y'all broke up.
Hey, let me tell you.
She said something like that, and I got hot at the door of her house.
See, what we had to talk about, nigga?
I ain't got to talk to you about nothing.
Excuse me?
Excuse me?
Excuse me?
We had sex.
You don't have to talk to me about what?
Nothing.
I'm the nigga you fucked to get him here. Who you ain't got to talk to? I wish you fucked me. If it ain't about him, she ain't have to talk to me about what? Nothing. I'm the nigga you fucked to get him here. Who you ain't got
to talk to? I wish you fuck
A. I know. I know.
That nigga running back to the escalator to come to daddy house.
Fuck is you talking about? We got to talk.
What's happening?
I'm done with you, man. I'm playing a song.
Yeah, please play the record.
They gonna kill you. I love you, Sin.
Nobody's a better team than us.
You already see how we giving it up out here.
Partial ain't got kids.
Shut the fuck up.
You don't know shit.
I'm playing the Vanessa Williams version of the Isley Brothers song I started the pod with.
It's called Work To Do because we got work to do.
Job ain't never done.
Vanessa Williams, talk to these niggas, man.
Wait a minute.
She always neglects me. I gotta make it for you, and I gotta make it for me Cause I'm down the street, boy, I'm neglecting you When I talk, spend more time, I got so many things to do
I, I got work to do, I got a job to do
I got work to do, I got a job to do. I got a job to do. I got a job to do.
I got a job to do.
I got a job to do.
Wait a minute.
It's cool.
Y'all wasn't outside.
I was recording KC Kasem's Top 40 at 40.
This song wasn't being played.
I'm educating y'all right now.
I'm sorry.
This is Vanessa Williams' work to do.
This is a Is work to do. This is the
Isley Brothers cover.
Hey.
Yes. Love like burning, oh you gotta have a little space You might as well get used to, me coming home a little late
I, I got work to do
I got work to do
I got a job to do
I got work to do
I got work to do
Baby I got work to do. I got work to do. Yeah, I got work to do. Hey, hey, hey. If you're listening out there, don't worry.
I'm cutting this off before the verse comes on, but it's a vibe right now.
Instrumentation, pianos, all of that type shit.
I need to hear that.
Oh, I got work to do.
I got work to do.
I got work to do.
I got work to do. I got work to do. I got work to do. I got work to do. I got work to do, I got a job bitch
I got work to do, I got a job bitch
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I'm brazen.
Let that shit ride, 88.
I'm with it. Don't even turn it up and let them hear my pain
Richer than the fuck, but it don't heal my pain
Money came by you happiness, seen it came by your love
Money came by you happiness, but it came by your growth
Spills and dollar bills
Last night he got so high, he done blew his brains out
Got him cashin' like a fast load Who told you you was perfect? You should try and get a grip He got so high, he done done blew his brains out Don't catch love, love, think about
Who told you you was perfect?
You should try and get a grip
If I told you I was perfect, I'd be lying like a bitch
Don't wanna do no shows or rap no songs
He tired of that shit
In the bathroom by himself
Hiding a bitch
You're fresher than a motherfucker
Low key
You're stressing like a motherfucker
And he's flyer than a motherfucker, not only that
He higher than a motherfucker, low-level fat Fucker labor in they games, he a slave in they chains
They get champagne when it rain, they took his pain to the bank
He be all up in his feelings when him and his bitch don't get along
At least if he leave rappin', he can have a happy home
And he tryin' to be strong, but he showin' that he not so Truth be told, y'all, that he got
I watched my cousin smoke crack his whole fuckin' life
Fennel hit the street and he OD'd the same night
Go and turn it up and let him hear my pain Richer than a fuck, but it don't hit my mind
Money came by you happenin', seen it came by your love
Money came by you happenin', but it came by you happiness Teenage came by your love Money came by you happiness Money came by your girl
Spills
And dollar bills
Last night he got so high
He done that blew his brains out
Don't cash and diein' fast
That's all Wave, Pills and Bills, off his album, which is called Soul Fly.
Really good album, man.
That's the new album?
Yeah, it's really good.
There was like four songs I wanted to play off here.
Shout out to Rob Wave.
I didn't hear the album yet, but I'm really happy for what he sold,
his single, just the mark he's making out there.
Yeah, he's doing a stand-up.
I'm going to check it out.
Whoa, what's that there?
Sources say a metal pipe and a knife among the evidence at drake's house
a security officer was allegedly physically attacked but the female did not make it inside
the mansion or even into the property seven tpso uh tps operations cars responded and one parademic vehicle paramedic
I'm sorry paramedic I can't read
details on a woman trying to
break into Drake's mansion with a knife how she
was able to bust a security guard over the head with
a pipe
Drake is that
level of superstar so
this is not shocking
I really wish more attention
would have been paid when it was announced that
a crazed stalker tried to break into Eminem's house while he was present and
sleep.
Yeah.
He saw the dude in the kitchen or some shit,
right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was,
that was,
yeah,
it was a guy.
It was a man that M had security everywhere.
He needed to have it.
And they were sleeping.
And the dude came in,
M saw M alerted security. They took care of it, and they were asleep. I believe they— And the dude came in, M saw, M alerted security.
They took care of it, and that was the end of the issue.
But it wasn't as big of a story as you would think it should be
because of how bad it could have turned out.
And here you go with Drake now.
Right.
Had this happened to Drake, this would have been a much larger,
much larger story, and we don't never need this.
We talk about Pop smoke losing his life because
he maybe potentially left his address out publicly somebody like drake don't have to do that you live
in the embassy that's your house everybody in toronto knows where it is uh you're subject to
this type of treatment this type of invasion at all times um thank god that he's all right thank god nobody
was injured um hopefully the the police captured this person and they did what they had to do
did y'all see the video in the atlanta airport uh it was a fight that broke out of the atlanta
and the dude pulled the cop pulled out the taser gun, laid everybody down. He let it down. He let that shit go, bro.
But my question was, if that taser gun has that effect that I saw in that video at the airport.
I know where you're going.
Why don't they use that?
He laid five fighting men down in about two seconds.
Right.
So instead of shooting people, why are you just not tasing them?
Yeah.
And it had the debilitating effect that it had.
Look at this shit. Why shouldn't we shoot? Watch the cop. Watch the cop. Look, had the debilitating effect that it had. Look at this shit.
Watch the cop.
Watch the cop.
Look, he getting it on.
We getting it on.
Ah, ah, ah.
Ah, ah.
You know the vibes.
We getting to it.
Here go yellow gun.
No bullets.
Nobody's dying.
But everybody's laying down and gathering themselves for a few minutes.
Check my man with the bag, though.
No, I'm not missing my flight.
He still want to fight.
Excuse me.
You can't get up.
No, no, no.
Excuse me.
You can't get up. Hey, nigga, sit there. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? This is the bag, though. I'm not missing my fight. He still want to fight, but you can't get up. No, no, no. Excuse me. You can't get up.
Hey, nigga, sit there.
Yeah.
Like, you know what I mean?
This is in Atlanta, man.
And so that means that it's inexcusable when y'all start shooting people when you have
other means to debilitate them.
I mean, we know what that is.
That's crazy.
We all smart here.
Well, 1,000%.
The same way we know what it is when we see all these details emerge from Derek Chauvin
trial.
The murderer of George Floyd.
That trial is happening as we speak.
I'm not going to tell anybody how to feel or what I think is going to occur.
You see the jury.
You got eyes.
You got eyes.
You got a brain.
You read the jury.
Yeah.
If you see the jury.
Oh, my God.
See the jury.
Oh, my God. There's nothing else that needs to be said. You see the jury. Yeah. If you see the jury. Oh, my God. See the jury. Oh, my God.
It's horrible.
There's nothing else that needs to be said.
You see the jury.
You're worried.
No, not all white.
Mostly white.
Mostly white.
Go back.
Three blacks.
Go back.
One in their 50s.
Two in their 30s.
Other people mixed.
Other people white.
Right there.
Here we go.
Juror number.
Oh, no.
They don't even tell us.
The other one has the breakdown,
I'm sorry.
It's only about three black jurors.
Everyone else is white,
mixed, so forth and so on.
We've seen this movie before.
I don't need to get into it.
There's nothing to talk about here.
As sad as it is.
Did everyone play a sleeper?
No.
You two played.
Who's missing?
Me and then Ish.
Get your shit off.
All right, cool.
I'm going back down to Atlanta.
I got to stay with the streets.
I don't do that.
You don't want to be the next Justin LaVoy.
You scared to death.
Go ahead.
Nah, man.
My Atlanta pass is good now.
The homies said, yo, you good out here now.
If they touch Justin LaVoy, they'll touch ice.
But they don't have no reason to touch ice.
So anyway, I'm going with Rallo.
This is fame off of, he did a deluxe addition to the Conspiracy album that he dropped.
You know, Rallo.
Rallo's not out of jail, right?
Yes, Rallo's out.
Shut up.
No, Rallo's out.
You're a liar.
No, Rallo's out.
Who said that?
He's out.
That's announced?
Yes.
I follow Rallo.
I didn't see nothing from him.
Rallo was released a couple months ago.
Oh, he trying to lay low.
Got it.
But yeah, he's out.
Congratulations to Rallo.
I fuck with him.
Yes, absolutely.
I fuck with him.
Good fam.
I fuck with Rallo.
His music is dope.
This is fame off of the Conspiracy Deluxe.
I pray I make it out this year.
So they put me back in this.
If you know what I'm talking about.
Congratulations.
I had no idea you were out.
Rollo.
I'm happy for you.
Fam. Boom. Woo. These niggas tellin' and makin' it hard
I pray to Lord we'll make it tomorrow
My bitch a lawyer, she gon' take the charge
How we so solid, but makin' a nod
We makin' noise that they can't ignore
I told my mama, sit back and enjoy
I bought her everything I can afford
She tell me work it because she get bored
I put my bitch in the sauna If she forgot, I bought her everything I can afford She tell me work it because she get bored I put my bitch in the sauna
And she forgot I remind her
I think that money done blind her
He got his niggas behind her
I told you real niggas never give up
I see them answers and I'm from the club
They put me in cuffs, that wasn't enough
Everyone fucked on that bitch that I love
I used to cry when I thought about it
I thought my people forgot about me
They tried to fire me, now I'm the hottest I got more knowledge than niggas in college
Remember me, nigga, I came from the project My niggas in style, it don't make us get violent
They try me, I don't gon' catch up at it Look at these bitches, they cannot deny it
See, we're with the niggas, trying to find us a way
And we finally made it, now niggas hate it
I guess I'm part of the gang, but for the girl, and them niggas hating
I guess I'm part of the gang, yeah
Try to go like nothing changed, yeah
Watch us and the cops change, yeah
I'm just being me and us, we the same
And I want what come with the fame
I want what come with the fame
I want what come with the fame
I want what come with the fame All of the problems, the pain, the business, the cars, the chain
I want what come with the fame
They put some dirt on my name
That shit was lame but I never complained
I want it back but it's never the same
I want it back but it's never the same
I got on track and I never look back
I told myself that you better than that
I went from serving that crack to serving them packs Now my show gon' forever be back
I got some niggas that die about me I told them haters that God got me
Oh, I bought it, oh, I bought it I promise niggas don't know about me
I fell in love with my bitch I did not never know lovin' exists
I know they forgot but I never forget I told them real ones ain't never gon' quit
I got some dollars I never forgot them I'm always inside them, I'm never gon' doubt them
I got desires that I'ma retire These niggas be liars, they all in denial
I got that fire, you don't need a lighter I'm at the top but I'm tryna get higher
I bought my bitch a new whip with the title I'm tryna make more money than my idol
And remember them days,, tryna find us a way
And we findin' the man, now niggas hate it
I guess it's part of the game, yo
Try to call it nothing, change up
Watch us and it's called the change up
I'm just being me and no shit assignment
I want what's wrong with the fine
I want what's wrong with the fine I owe you. I owe you. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call.
It's okay.
Give me shit.
I owe you a call. I owe you a call.
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I owe you a call. I love Killers.
Sorry. Are we mad that
they live their raps?
Or do we want the niggas that don't live their raps?
Stop potting.
Stop potting.
Hey, you have to stop potting.
I'ma chill. No more potting. You relax.
Does anyone else have a sleeper?
If you want me to play the major.
Come on, play some Chico the Bars, nigga.
Shut up.
Now I'm going to play the Mace shit.
All right, he wanted all.
There we go.
There we go.
Turned up for you.
I can't believe how you switched up when Steve was in here.
I didn't switch up.
I'm not going to tell you nothing.
I didn't switch up.
Duke is not better than Mace.
Yes, he is.
He would win a versus against Mace.
He's better than Mace.
Not better than Mace.
He's been better than Mace.
He's not better than Mace. He is. Now, he don't want to say it. He's not better than Mace. That person is not better than Mace. Yes, he is. He would win a versus against Mace. He's better than Mace. He's been better than Mace. He's not better than Mace.
He is. He don't want to say it. He's not better than Mace.
That person is not better than Mace. Yes, he is. You're crazy.
Are you crazy? No, you're not crazy.
He's crazy, but he's tainted.
We know this. He would win a versus against
Mace because he would win a versus against a lot
of people. He's not a better rapper
than Mace. He's better than Mace.
When Mace said pow pow, I didn't hear him um so go ahead yo mace said pow pow the way joe be saying pow pow
pow pow leave joe alone before i decide to get a pen cheat on you i'm not listening if i get a pen
and rap then what happens exactly everybody retreats you don't rap no more i know but if
he did you would retreat you know what he does with words you see what i do with that on a pod like imagine if it wasn't no pod be clear no no rappers are worried
about you right now good they're not i'm just i'm not trying to they're not good they should you
out of shape they shouldn't be they haven't heard anything in ages absolutely i don't think they
should be they should believe in their ability to crush a guy that they haven't heard from in ages
right some of you, though.
No, they know.
They're not worried.
Do you have a sleeper?
Yeah, yeah. You have a sleeper?
We talked about cheating.
Wait, I ain't the sleeper.
Yeah, intro it, man.
Intro it.
There you go.
It's your shit.
We talked about it.
Nah, it's your record.
You never experienced cheating, right?
Well, introduce the record at least.
It's never cheated, y'all.
Yeah, ever.
But if he cheated, he would feel like this.
Yeah, that's how it is.
Stupid, y'all.
Yeah, yeah.
If you're going to hit niggas, girl,
just expect niggas to hit your girl.
And that's it.
Don't try to have me say
if she had what you want.
You a witchy.
Why would she?
Why would she cheat on you? Hey, listen. You a witchy Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy X know not to speak, she is all good and it's all sweet All women flirt, all women cheat, so I might spend a week
Down in Virginia Beach, out of inner sheets, blaze twenty feet
She the bad boy everybody wanna meet, practice what I preach
Never caught one of the chiefs, if I ain't work late
I say I was with my peeps, I'm quick to tell a ho yo
I ain't get the beef, and all these girls is quite the same
So it ain't your pencil, it's how you write
your name, huh?
I got what you want, I got what you want
I got what you want, I got what you want
I got what you want, I got what you want
I got what you want, I got what you want
I got what you want, I got what you want
I got what you want, I got what you want I ain't nobody hotter than the jam down dollar
Period, period all the money
Never been the one that chick lie to
Got a brother, and yo' C's got a girl
And he ain't in no world, not in no world
Based on what?
He never sold more records than Mase
He never rhymed more words than Mase
He wasn't on no bigger single than Mase What makes you think this dude is a faggot?
His discography is better than Mase's That's a fact
But he's not a better rapper than Mase
That's why I'm fine
Where the hell Mase came out and said rap with me?
He'll turn his up in the headphones? Don't worry about it
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It's the size of four, yeah, I'm cool
And I don't think for your second time
Cause your only hit chicks that you make is mine
You know I hate a zoo, but I'm unfaithful
Mommy, sweet, and poppy, can I skate with you?
They wanna ride with me, say fly with me
Wanna help me get rid of my rivalries
Wanna be the Ebony, took my ivory
But I'm straight, though, thanks, ma Only chase, took my ivory But I'm straight though thanks ma Only chase though
We can lay for the night but In the morning I get Shirley Murdoch
I hope you throw a slam lock I'm gone Hey, Masajidistic Hov told Shorty he was mature because he would go bowling with her. Nigga, Masajidistic Hov told Shorty, get your independent ass out of here.
Hey, hey.
That's funny.
We could go bowling.
It ain't like before.
Now we can go bowling.
Thanks, Hov.
That nigga's crazy, man.
Oh, man.
Oh, shit.
Everybody went, right?
Yeah, you fucking right.
Unless somebody else got something to say.
Nah, we out of here.
It's over.
Let me do this for the legendary.
One year anniversary for the death of Bill Withers, man.
We don't like celebrating death.
Rest in peace to Bill Withers.
One of the most sampled artists in the history of hip hop.
Arguably one of the greatest songs ever made.
A lovely day man
talk to him when i wake up in the morning i appreciate y'all man this was a really good pod and the sunlight hurts my eyes good pod good vibes good people good energy good frequency
good vibrations man hey listen i appreciate y'all If you can't count on your friends when you need them
Then who can you count on?
Who can you count on, goddammit?
You right about that one
And the world's alright with me
Yo, we outta here, keep us in your prayers
Lord knows we need to be there
Just one look at you
Until the next time I bid you adieu
Arrivederci, adios, so long, goodbye
All of that good shit Until the next time I bid you adieu, arrivederci, adios, so long, goodbye.
All of that good shit.
Do remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass.
Moments pass, moments pass.
So let's make this one last as if it's all we have.
I fuck with y'all.
Thank y'all for joining us.
Thank you to Ish.
Thank you to Ice, Alex, Corey, Savon, E-Rab, Parks. I appreciate y'all Thank y'all for joining us Thank you to Ish Thank you to Ice Alex Corey Savon
E-Rab
Parks
I appreciate y'all
And rest in peace
Bill Withers man
You the GOAT
We'll be here same time
Same place
On the weekend
Ayy
Thank you to Steve Stout
We appreciate you
Wait a minute!
And then I look at you
And the world's alright with me
Just one look at you
Ayy
And I know it's gonna be
Ayy 100 minutes And I know it's gonna be Hey I'm a runnin'
Y'all hold it down out there, man
Shout out to the first and last time listeners
Shout out to everybody that's rockin' with us
Through this difficult time
Shout out to everybody that's been there from day one
Shout out to the Patreon niggas that's ridin'
Shout out to the entrepreneurs Shout out to the single ladiesiggas that's riding. Shout out to the entrepreneurs.
Shout out to the single ladies
and the women with boyfriends
that we fuck anyway.
Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly,
allegedly, allegedly, allegedly.
Seems impossible to face.
Let's go, Bill.
Parks E.
Y'all gonna figure out
the edits and all that.
For our Patreon stuff, we good?
We all right?
Yeah. Savon E. I mean, not E. Alice, y'all gon' figure out the edits and all that For our Patreon stuff, we good? We alright?
Then I look at you Savon E, I mean I E
Alice, y'all good?
And the world's alright
Y'all ain't quit the network, right?
Y'all need to have a private talk with me
Make sure everything is good
Y'all are happy?
Y'all alright?
Can you make enough to pay the rent?
The first is coming
I'm asking, I don't know
You niggas can leave
I don't know, I'd be sad
What you wanna do?
Hey!
Hey!
We out of here, man.
Y'all hold it down.
Rest in peace, Bill Withers.
Rest in peace, Stuart Scott.
Rest in peace, Juice WRLD, Matt Miller, Fred the Godson Pop Smoke Nitsy Hustle
Rest in peace everybody
We love y'all man
Love my life
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