The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 427 | "Straightened Out" (feat. Steve Stoute)

Episode Date: March 31, 2021

On this episode: Joe and the guys discuss Saweetie and Quavo’s relationship issues (28:10) as well as the rumors stating that Justin Laboy was jumped. Three more women accuse Houston Texans QB, Desh...aun Watson, of sexual assault (44:42), and the guys speak to holding everyone accountable, including Governor Cuomo (53:40). Foogiano sends a threat to Trey Songz from jail for posting his girlfriend (59:50), Lil Nas X is being sued by Nike (1:12:50), and Jeezy’s ex-manager says he’s lost all street credibility after making peace with Gucci Mane (1:51:25). Entrepreneur, music, and advertising executive, Steve Stoute, joins the JBP to discuss his early beginnings (2:04:00), advertising ventures (2:10:00), UnitedMasters distribution (2:16:25) and more!   For more exclusive content: become a Patron of the The Joe Budden Podcast at www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Vanessa Williams - “Work To Do” Parks | Rod Wave - “Pillz & Billz”  Ice | Ralo - “Fame” (Ft. Derez De’Shon)  Ish | Mase - “Cheat on You” (Ft. Lil’ Cease & Jay-Z)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 there we go what y'all are saying is and i know my brain works a little weird but by y'all's calculations i'm not super in love if you see my name all over all of the likes on instagram spread out to y'all that that means joe is in love with the chicks he's liking the pics of no man we're not saying you're in love like Like, oh my God, I love this shit. Y'all think I want to sleep with every chick that I hit the like on? When y'all see my name spread out throughout Instagram, is that how y'all feel? Can we give a percentage? Yeah, no, please.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Please, please. You're shooting high numbers. 70. On a like. Y'all are pulling this much from a like. No, we're pulling this much from knowing Joe. I'm pulling that much from personal information and the likes. You have a type.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Yeah. So if you go on a girl's page and like the stuff, it's predicated on what your type is. What's my type, Ish? I think everyone in the world knows your type. Now we about to have fun. What's your type? Listen, we about to have fun today. You have two types now. Oh.
Starting point is 00:01:09 No, no, no. Watch this. Hey, turn me up in the headphones. All right, there we go. There we go. I'm loud. I'm loud now. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:01:16 We a mature pod. Let's do it. All right, so your favorite type is about five. I haven't said a word. You said what's your type? Five, five, 175 to 190. Voluptuous. Uber voluptuous.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Extreme. Bodacious. The right amount of cellulite. You like all that. Yeah. As would be present on a super voluptuous. Extreme. Bodacious. The right amount of cellulite. You like all that. Yeah. As would be present on a super voluptuous woman. Indeed. Right?
Starting point is 00:01:51 Indeed. So, again, I know Ice's type. I know people's types. I know Corey's type. What's Corey's type? This is great. Yo, having potters here that really don't know about potting is awesome
Starting point is 00:02:07 it's back to like honesty what's Corey's type? Corey is the I don't know Corey's type model-esque type I don't care about Corey Corey I don't care enough about Corey
Starting point is 00:02:18 listen to this back to me because I'm a narcissist oh wait wait I didn't finish you've kind of drifted in the last couple years to the slimmer. Yeah. You started swerving in our lane, nigga.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Say it. No, no, no, no, no. I think Kalen started your slim talk. He's speaking facts. He's speaking facts. I'm not lying. It's all true. He's naming names.
Starting point is 00:02:44 I'm naming names that people don't know about. Okay, so listen to what he just said. No, I'm not saying all true. He's naming names. I'm naming names that people don't know about. Okay, so listen to what he just said. No, I'm saying that's- He just said, yo, you love super thick voluptuous, uber thick women, and now you like skinny ones too. No, no, no. So I don't have a type. No, that's not true. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:02:56 So what's the type? He's absolutely right that you have, your type has, you've developed a second type. You've opened up to- A second type. Yeah. It's not all types. it's not all types so if i like another uh woman is that going to be a third type yo there was a time when you and i would go out and you would say that's the ish chick right there and i would say we wouldn't say because
Starting point is 00:03:19 i know your type exactly and i would say yo i know your type i see one for you your type. Exactly. And I would say, yo. I know your type. I see one for you. Your type ain't changed, buddy. It's still right. I don't have a type. That's the thing. Your type changed a little bit. It's still a Tiger Woods. Tiger Woods is going to wear the red shirt, right? On Sundays. Again.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I know your type, buddy. No, I don't have a type. You don't want to talk about it? I don't have a type. Get the fuck out of here. Don't do that. Don't do that. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Don't lie on your brief stint on this pod. That's not. I don't have a type. Don't misuse the platforms to lie. Duh. Any girl, you can name girls that I've dated or that I was in relationships with and they do not favor each other at all.
Starting point is 00:03:56 That could be said about all of us. That don't mean that you don't have a type. Well, I can't say it because when I was about to say it, he named a second type. You can have a type. You can have a type. You can have two types. And venture out a little bit and still have a type, though. You can have two types. You got a type.
Starting point is 00:04:10 And we're talking about just physicality only. I like super thick women and now in recent years, I've grown an appreciation for slimmer women. So then what is the type is what I'm asking y'all. You just named it. Super thick women. That's all the types. That's not all the types.
Starting point is 00:04:26 No, it's not. What's the rest of the types? There's an in between. Tell me the rest. Tall, skinny. Oh, looking at them dicks. Tall, skinny. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:04:37 You thought the model-y girls. I'm joking. That's not your type. I'm kidding. The model-y type, that's not you. No, that's not you. What's the other types, though? I want to hear them from y'all. Short, not good. You can be all there. I'm kidding The bodily type That's not you No that's not you What's the other types though I want to hear them from y'all
Starting point is 00:04:46 Short I'm good Tell me Alright forget it He's trying to sit me up Yeah Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:04:55 We know not to do that Yes sir Yes sir Good energy Goodbye We ready Yeah Yeah Hey Don't try to put me up Good energy, good vibes, we are the best! Yeah, hey, don't try to put me up against the corner, buddy.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I'm here to talk about it. I'm taking care of business. Woman, can't you see? I gotta make it for you. Yo, shout out to everybody listening all over the world. Shout out to the first and last time listeners. Good energy, good vibrations, frequencies high. We going in the summertime.
Starting point is 00:05:33 It's beautiful in New York. I'm not playing with niggas. It's him. Me, nigga. It's him today. I got a job, baby. I got a job, baby. All the types. I still want to hit all the types. I still want to hit all the types.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Especially now you got the fitness type. Like you got all these different types of women. That's true. Yo, before we go any further, right? I want to shout out to the fans. I would like to thank the fans. I would like to say that I really appreciate the fans. No need to really identify who's who and what's what.
Starting point is 00:06:11 If it don't apply, let it fly. But man, I appreciate you guys. This is my appreciation song. I'm old, I know. Some of y'all in Jersey City know what I used to do in Alberts when this came on. What you do? Was you in Alberts? No. Yo, it's just much older than me. What was you doing in Peppermint Lounge? Peppermint Lounge.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Hey! Shout out to the first and last time listeners Shout out to everybody just trying to get by like Talib Shout out to Talib Hey Let it go If you don't apply let it fly Listen we gearing up it's getting hot outside I don't know how to be It's been a while
Starting point is 00:07:07 I'm no longer just going in the closet Looking for the black sweats and the black tea I'm looking for colors now We here now, what's up? What's up? I'm hitting some of the secret strip club spots Yo, what's good tonight? What's that shit like? What's that shit like?
Starting point is 00:07:26 I ain't been yet. Oh, okay. I have not been yet. But I'm hitting them. The curiosity is there. I got a Vax now, so I'm like, you know what I mean? I might be down to roll. I got Vax now.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Listen, Thursday. Big Vax energy, big Vax energy. Big Vax. I'm about to stop talking to y'all. I don't wanna have a conversation with you guys. Last song and I'm gonna stop talking to y'all. I don't wanna have a conversation with you, man. Last song and I'm done. Last song and I'm done.
Starting point is 00:07:54 We got shit to get to. We got shit to talk about. Say, Vaughn, give me the smoothie with the plastic still over it. It's cool. Don't worry about it. I'm coming in here to celebrate. Can't find a new Escalade anywhere. I'm looking for it.
Starting point is 00:08:13 You got to connect. Hit me up. You heard? Huh? I got to connect. I'm just talking shit. Just, just, just. I don't know if now that's the wisest purchase.
Starting point is 00:08:26 I'm just, I mean. It's nice, though. It's nice. It's nice. Oh, my God. No, it's nice, boys. So why is it not a wise purchase? Oh, well, my two co-hosts left don't know the state of the business. I had too much fun and time for us to get there, bro.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I know. We out, though. Mic check, mic check. Mic check, one, two, one, two. Mic check, one, two, one, two. I'm Schistus Glee. Microphone check. One, two.
Starting point is 00:09:09 What is this? The J.B.P. shit. Still none of your business. Hit a gunshot one time for Big Pop in heaven. Hit a gunshot one time for Big Pop in heaven. Welcome to the Joe Budden Podcast. I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, hated, and highly favored host. Let me emphasize, highly favored host, Joe Budden, here with a few of my nearest and dearest. Boy, God is good all the time, man. How is everybody doing? Don't fucking
Starting point is 00:09:41 lie to me. Tell me what's really happening with you and you and you and you and you and you and you. How's everyone doing? And if you're going to lie, let me just move forward so we can talk about Deshaun Watson. How about that? How about that? I don't have the fucking time for it. I'm better than Deshaun Watson right now. Yeah. I'll say that.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I had a pretty good weekend. I was chilling. Alright. I'm vaxxed up so we got some food out in the real world. Tried to go to a bar, but they closed at 11, so it didn't work out. You can't get a half-day. You took your mask off? Fuck yeah. I'm vaxxed up, bro.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Come at me. Come at me. The news this morning. I'll announce this. The news this morning. First of all, we are powered by, empowered by, brought to you by, sponsored by, tolerated by, none other than our favorite app in the world, Cash App. Salute to the gods.
Starting point is 00:10:31 You already know the vibes. The news this morning said that crime, and I have a blast watching the news, and sometimes things are funny that shouldn't be funny. The news said that- The news is never funny. Yeah. I think it's funny sometimes. It's the most depressing shit in the world. It's either really depressing or be funny. The news said The news is never funny. I think it's funny sometimes. It's the most depressing shit in the world.
Starting point is 00:10:46 It's either really depressing or really funny. But this morning they said that crime this week is up considerably from the same time last year. You don't say. I laughed for
Starting point is 00:11:02 at least 25 minutes in my room. I did. Why would that be? The news is just funny how they frame things. That's a stupid statistic. Well, that's what they said. Okay. Then they said that vaccinations are now allowed in New York for people that are 30 plus.
Starting point is 00:11:20 So that's cool. Let me hit a round of applause for- Vax Energy. South says 30, you know. Parks is big Vax Energy. Ice Ice you can't wait to get Vax two days Ish where do you stand on this Vax stuff did you get COVID at all
Starting point is 00:11:34 I did you might not need it let's dig into this here so you got COVID and you're still against the Vax can you please speak into the microphone, sir? Yeah, I am against the vax. I'm against the vax.
Starting point is 00:11:49 You're asking why? Yeah, just give it to me. It's too new. It's nowhere near tried and tested. Well, you think it's the beta version that's out, okay. Yeah, like, again, we rushed to get a vaccine Test it. Well, you think it's the beta version. It's out. Okay. Yeah. Like, again, we've rushed to get a vaccine for something that was killing a whole bunch of people. So I understand the urgency.
Starting point is 00:12:12 However, I'm not being a guinea pig. And that's literally what they skipped. They skipped the monkey trials. They skipped the guinea pig trials and jumped straight to people. I'm cool. I'll pass. But what if they didn't skip those? What if they did try it on animals, pigs?
Starting point is 00:12:30 No, they said that they did not. I get what Ish is saying. They said that they did not. I do understand that. They publicly said they haven't had time to check the long-term effects of this. Oh, sure. You believe what they say in the public? When I went to get one of my more recent COVID tests, the person administering it, I mean, I probably shouldn't say this, but they basically told me, yo, man, some of the trials for the vax, they've been running it on blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:12:54 And limb has been falling off. It's been nasty shit. So they got some more, a little more ways to go. So, I mean, I say that to say they tested it somewhere, right? Yeah. No, they have volunteers. Like they were paying people to come. Hundreds, I mean, I say that to say they tested it somewhere, right? Yeah, no, they had volunteers. Like, they were paying people to come. Hundreds of thousands of people. I'm pretty sure
Starting point is 00:13:09 they were paying people to do it. Yeah, again, Brazil, motherfuckers was dropping like flies. Norway, motherfuckers was dropping like flies. I'm cool. So, again, the normal vaccine from what I've read and what I've heard, the normal vaccine takes about four years to develop. We did it in nine months well that's because the technology for the vaccine was
Starting point is 00:13:29 already there it had to be tweaked for this particular strain of coronavirus oh wow you think yeah i kind of do so watch this so now also in that, glad that you brought up the strains of coronavirus. Now it's 17 new strains. 99 new strains. Which means that the vaccine isn't even as... The efficacy rate of the vaccine is bullshit. Let me ask you one question. What's your stance on the flu shot?
Starting point is 00:14:00 I never took a flu shot in my life. Polio vaccine? What, Michael Paul said it, I'm asking. Have you been vaccinated for polio? I think we all have. on the flu shot. I never took a flu shot in my life. Polio vaccine? What? Michael Paul said it. I'm asking. Have you been vaccinated for polio? I think we all have.
Starting point is 00:14:09 We all have. Measles? Chicken pox? We all have. So then what is your argument? What's your argument there then for taking some of the other vaccinations
Starting point is 00:14:18 and being so against this one? That's my first argument. And again, my very first stance was this one is not tried and true. This one has not been tested as much as others. Here's my second. My second point to you is and it's awesome that, you know, Americans believe that free thought is a thing. Corey and I have had these conversations a bunch as far as vaccination.
Starting point is 00:14:41 We're like, OK, are you taking the vaccine? Says, fuck, no. I say, fuck, no. A week later, a report comes out that says, hey, you can't get your passport updated unless you are vaccinated. You can't get your license renewed unless you are vaccinated. You can't fly places unless you are vaccinated. Just that fast. Free thought disappeared. I agree. Just that fast. It's up. Maybe I'll do it if you're leveraging those things against me. You, as someone who travels often, what do you do when they say,
Starting point is 00:15:12 unless you are vaccinated, you are stricken to America and America only? Serious question. Now, on the record, I'm from the hood, man. We circumvent things. I'm just telling you. i'm just yo how much that cost i'm dead i'm serious that's my stance until they show you are almost i'm 45 years old i'm 45 almost 50 years old. You look great. You asked me a question. You're a beautiful guy. You're not going to be that guy. And Corey's almost 50 years old, too,
Starting point is 00:15:52 and he definitely faked the vaccination test to go to the Knit game. Listen to the snitch rat bastard. Allegedly. Damn, bro. Some people think. Some people think. But look where we've gotten into and trust me I didn't expect to open up
Starting point is 00:16:07 with big vax talk that's unfortunate that we have to now go to what do you mean we you're the unfortunate nigga no I'm saying we collectively it ain't we I'm going to get vaccinated I'm getting a card I'm pulling my shit out unfortunately we
Starting point is 00:16:23 people have come to a place where we have to now think outside the box to circumvent some shit that the government is trying to force us to do for our own rights and freedoms.
Starting point is 00:16:33 What are you making a face for? Shut up. I can't go to the Nick game unless I get vaccinated. What the fuck? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:41 You sound stupid. Wait. How? But think about it. Kids can't go to school if they're not vaccinated. No, that's not true. That's not true. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:16:49 That you can't. That's not true. Would you vaccinate your son? Would you vaccinate your daughter? Would you vaccinate your daughter? Yes. No, I was totally against vaccinating my daughter. My baby already got shots.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I was totally against vaccinating my daughter. She just got her last round on February 17th. I was totally against vaccinating my son of any sort. And I didn't want to have the argument with his mom. Exactly. So I folded. Yeah. But she never came to me to try to discuss my views on it.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Nor did she ever take the time to try to understand my views on that. And I'm not sure that culturally she would have even understood some of my views on it. I want you to be. I want you to expound on why, though. Why are you so gung ho for the COVID vaccine, but you are against vaccinating Lex? Same rules apply. Not true for me. By all means.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I've had COVID. Okay. So I've gone to bed and felt like, okay, this might be it. Damn, shit ain't in order for this to be it. I thought I had another few more. Not like this. Yo, once the finality hits, that's what I was just telling y'all outside. Like, hey, we could all say, yo, we're going to die one day.
Starting point is 00:18:00 We're going to die. But when you get to the day, it's it's like damn did i do this life thing the way it was supposed to be done so i've had those thoughts let me get into it okay i've never had the flu and felt that way i've never had polio and felt that way wingworm whatever the things are that you get hopefully i've never had those things knock on wood cool but covid yes so it puts my belief system at an interesting point which is my parents and i've talked to cory about this my parents i want them to rush out and get that covid test they're at the age where i'm not gonna play like that you mean vaccine i mean i mean i'm sorry the vaccine they're at the age where i'm not gonna play like that at my age
Starting point is 00:18:43 i might still play like that, but if you're telling me I can't fly, I can't go to the Knicks game, I can't do all of that, cool, I won't. My son, my youngest born, is young enough for me to apply all of the natural immune system stuff to in the event that I didn't trust anything
Starting point is 00:19:01 about the government or vaccines, which at my core belief system exists. So just how fast do you see how I have a different point of view for all the people that I love? My oldest son, I would want him to get it. I got to tell you this, all the CMOS in the world ain't going to stop that polio.
Starting point is 00:19:21 No. Or that measles. That's what I was saying. Now you should eat healthy and do all that shit and take all them supplements but certain shit ain't gonna cut it listen when i talk to my cousin who's aren't gonna kill you when i speak to my cousin who is a doctor huh children when i speak to my cousin who is a doctor and he reminds me that i have had covid and have almost i think my dad has had COVID felt like he was
Starting point is 00:19:45 almost out of here my cousin's position is how could you argue against modern medicine I have a I have an answer for that answer it and let's move on to something fun
Starting point is 00:19:56 alright cool when people sell pharmaceuticals right the pharmaceutical rep comes in tells the doctor whatever they tell them right I'm tells the doctor whatever they tell them.
Starting point is 00:20:06 I'm listening. The doctor that is now basically a carrier of information tells you what the pharmaceutical rep told them. I'm listening. So what stops... Let me backtrack.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I'm sorry. Let me give you an example. Johnson & Johnson for years has been saying X, Y, and Z right now we now find that products of Johnson and Johnson they didn't tell us they were selling cancer this is my point this is my point right so Johnson and Johnson has been pushing products for years that doctors
Starting point is 00:20:38 didn't mind pushing fuck the Johnson and Johnson we grew up in an era where milk does a body good and that's wrong it was pushed our whole entire existence Fuck the Johnson & Johnson. We grew up in an era where milk does a body good. And that's wrong. It was pushed our whole entire existence. Milk does a body good. By the government, by the FDA, by everybody that we are supposed to trust.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Milk is bullshit for you. And we all know that now. We've also been raised on soul food. They won't tell us really how bad that is for us as well. This is true. So my thing, but soul food is your grandmother. Soul food is not the government. Soul food is not the FDA. That shit bad for you. Says you.
Starting point is 00:21:10 I love it, but it's bad for you. Says you. I mean, I don't know where the idea of chitlins came from back in slave day. We do know. We know. We do know. But again, these are not government agencies to whom we place our faith in to have our best...
Starting point is 00:21:28 If all we could get is aftermarket intestines of animals because that's all we're privy to, then that is the government I'm arguing. That ain't my grandma. No, that's not the government. That's not the government. I get it. I get what he's saying.
Starting point is 00:21:44 You said if all we're privy to is chitlins from a slave master, once they cut the pig, his intestines are laying on the ground. We picked them up, seasoned them, cooked them, and ate them. Yo, was that... Was that... Wait, hold on. Let me tell you a story. I don't know if this was you I was talking to.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Was this somebody me and Corey was talking to? I don't remember who this person was that was telling this story. This is regurgitated, but I'll give it to you. It might have been you, but it can't be you if you have this stance. Somebody from down south, they family, great grandma or somebody, went to the supermarket
Starting point is 00:22:15 to, back in the day they used to put the pigs on the line and you had to pick the pig. Do you remember who told the story? You had to pick the pig okay right do you remember who told the story you had to pick the pig it wasn't me but all right got it i'm listening they had the pigs on the line and you had to pick the pig back in the day to pick what you wanted right and then they would go and chop it up or do whatever they had to do and when they would do this they would take this they would
Starting point is 00:22:40 take the inside and it was this long rod that they would throw to the side every time and the guy's great grandma said yo man what you doing with that and they said we're throwing it to the side this is such and such it's a waste there's blah blah blah and the guy's great grandma said no give it to me give it to me and now check the price of oxtail today true so that's what i'm saying here do you follow how that is relative here at all but i don't see how that makes your stance that the government was responsible for black people eating i'm saying we i'm saying we're going to take what we can get and make magic out of it that's what we unfortunately we're not able to get but so much and that is government restricted that's not from anywhere else that's them taking the farm the farms
Starting point is 00:23:32 from us i agree but that's them changing the farming laws on us that's just changing the factory laws on us it's them feeding the dirt different listen somebody told me when i went to mercedes i would they was taking a long time in my car. I went out to smoke a cigarette. I came back. He said, I used to work in Virginia. If I showed you how a cigarette was made, you'd never smoke it again. I said, tell me more. He said, I was on the farmland.
Starting point is 00:23:56 All they did is take all of the intestines and shit that nobody wants from the inside of the animal and soil it up and roll it up and i said oh my god oh my god oh wow wait a minute wait a second buddy so you smoking some wild shit we all are smoking some wild shit ice is the reason why and we 24 minutes is the reason why there's no cigarette commercials but again this is my overall point at one point in time the fda approved it so what the fbi and the cia and all that other shit so why are you telling me about what they approve hey i cut them niggas a check and they'll approve something you're right so now what the fuck stops in 20 years the same way they saying milk does a body good 20 years ago and they telling us to go get covet stamped what stops in 20 years nigga and they telling us to go get COVID stamped
Starting point is 00:24:45 what stops in 20 years niggas saying you know what we fucked up if you took the COVID-19 vaccine you could be entitled to a huge lump sum of money what stops that
Starting point is 00:24:55 I don't trust these bastards alright then nothing stops that it might happen that's my reservation for not taking it he's gonna be dead shut up
Starting point is 00:25:04 wait what the fuck is he talking about no again you don't get to have Yeah, it might happen. That's my reservation for not taking it. He's going to be dead. Shut up. Wait, what the fuck is he talking about? No, again. You don't get to have that reservation. You? I'm 45, nigga. You got a max 50 years left. Okay. What's your point?
Starting point is 00:25:17 I don't understand. I said 20 years, bastard. I didn't say 50. Next topic. Hey, man. I think anybody who doesn't want to get the vaccine, cool, man. Do what you want to do with your body. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:29 That's how I feel. No, I agree. I am getting my shit because I need to. My point in saying that. My life is different. My point in saying that was, and I could be wrong. This could be applicable to you. But the next generation is always privy to more information than we were.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Indeed. Like, listen, when the microwave first came out, I remember having a blast. When we could afford to get a microwave, it was awesome. It wasn't until 25 years after the fact that they said, oh, this is how that food's getting hot in there. And I was like, oh, come on. Come on. Like, that's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Now you want me to not use the microwave. Don't stand in front of it. Parks didn't have a microwave for mad years. Listen, chicken wings. I was broke. Chinese joint. I'm there. It wasn't until 25
Starting point is 00:26:05 years later when it was like yo man what's happening to cats what the fuck forget it come on let's move on forget it let's move on that's what they said that's what they said that's what they said. That's what they said. That's what they said. See, and know what's funny about that? Look how the whole room laughed. Because that's funny. You can't get a chicken wing from a cat. But if somebody tells you at 15 to 16 years old that they're killing cats in back of the Chinese food and putting it in your shrimp fried rice, you will do more investigating. No, your chicken fried rice.
Starting point is 00:26:44 I might not. Beef fried rice. I might not. No, your chicken fried rice. I might not. The fried rice. I might not. I'm going to be honest. I might not. And in your further investigation, you would see, whatever it is,
Starting point is 00:26:53 it's good. Chickens, blah, blah, blah. I just watched the doc on Netflix the other day that I shouldn't have been watching when I was bored. It was about the sea. Oh, I heard that shit.
Starting point is 00:27:03 It was about the sea. I heard it's dope. No, it's great so informative boy you feel bad when you see what they're doing to the sharks when you see what they're doing to the whales cutting the fins hong kong blah blah blah blah blah like it's fucked up out there but that's what it is i agree they're showing you a they're showing you in hong kong them going to the spots where they're selling the shark fins and they're following the chain of shit. They're like,
Starting point is 00:27:26 yo, cut camera. Cut camera. No, no record. Cut camera. Yeah. They had to go to the spy shop. Shut up, nigga. You stop telling me
Starting point is 00:27:35 what I can and can't say. God damn it. Just bleep it out. Sitting there all fucking uncomfortable, you and Rory. Enough of this. Listen.
Starting point is 00:27:44 They had to go to the spy shop and get a special camera so they could film what was actually happening. Oh, like some little secret shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:51 So I say that to say, yeah, it's funny. You can't get a chicken wing out of cats. But if you did, I ain't mad at it. But when you see something that makes you
Starting point is 00:27:58 investigate further. I gotta be honest. Come on, let's talk about some fuck shit. Let's talk about some fuck shit. There's some fuck shit on your screen right there you niggas gotta stay
Starting point is 00:28:12 out of elevators man oh shit alright I don't know what I don't know what to say here is this breaking news yeah this is breaking news
Starting point is 00:28:22 this story is all over the place I know a few of the people involved i'll try to speak about it respectfully of course no pun intended seems to be a lot of aftermath from the sweetie appearance on the respectfully justin show on revolt with justin laboy that seems to have spawned a breakup between quavo and sweetie which seems to have spawned a breakup between Quavo and Sweetie which seems to have birthed them both giving their respective sides of things. And
Starting point is 00:28:50 in that, we're getting conversations leaked and we're getting footage now leaked of an altercation between Quavo and Sweetie inside of an elevator. I haven't seen this footage. I haven't seen it. If there's something domestic that happened here, I apologize. I haven't seen it to there's something domestic that happened here i apologize
Starting point is 00:29:05 i haven't seen it to speak on it i don't know what's inbounds or out of bounds yet but that is what is going on this looks bad there are rumors swirling that there was an altercation in atlanta between justin the boy and either migosigos. Or Migos affiliates. I would use this time. As a salacious moment. To call Justin the boy myself. To find out. But that wouldn't tell me anything. I did reach out to Justin the boy.
Starting point is 00:29:37 To say hey are you good. He said yes sir. That didn't tell me anything. What are you supposed to say. That didn't tell me anything. What are you supposed to say? That didn't tell me anything. They put foot to ass. That told me that he was good. On the way here, Ice shows me a video of Quavius posting something that said,
Starting point is 00:29:58 sometimes things have to get straightened out. A little straightening. A little straightening is all it was. Yeah, but this elevator scene don't look like a good straightening. A little straightening is all it was. Yeah, but this elevator scene don't look like a good straightening. No, I don't think it was about that. Okay. No, I think the straightening
Starting point is 00:30:10 was... Caption was toward the Justin stuff. That right there. Sometimes. Don't none get straightened but straightened. Don't none get straightened
Starting point is 00:30:19 but straightened is what he said. I think that's cryptic, but I understand what he's saying and where he's going with that i get it i'm not now react how do we feel about this well which part because there's a lot of shit going on how do you feel about any of what's going on what what did justin laboy do that was worth straightening i agree with that i don't know i'm asking i don't know
Starting point is 00:30:42 he might have been curly and needed his ass straightened out. I don't know. I'm saying what- It's Justin Laboy's show that Sweetie featured on with her ex, allegedly. Right. But why does that mean- That got things a little saucy. Why does that mean you got to beat up Justin Laboy, though? Why don't you?
Starting point is 00:30:57 See? Because you in a relationship. Let's do it. Let's do it. Why don't you? You go to your fiance and say, yo, I don't want you to do this show with your ex. She wants to do it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:13 That's an argument in the house. Of course. Indeed. So what do you mean? I don't understand what you mean. So why are you beating up Justin LeBron? He is the boy he hit his ass with. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Okay. Oh, that's what you said. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Okay. So she did the show. Unless there was something that happened behind the scenes or something. Well, let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:31:26 You did the show. And now you know that I am her significant other. And what if I feel like your line of questioning might have been misleading, inappropriate, disrespectful. You was playing. Disrespectful. You was playing. You was doing a lot.
Starting point is 00:31:43 You was playing with me. Wait, cool. That's how I felt there. Then she leftful. You was playing. You was doing a lot. You was playing with me. Wait, cool. That's how I felt there. Then she left. The show was over. Rumors of our breakup went out. You've been getting saucy
Starting point is 00:31:53 on your Instagram about our breakup, my role in it. You posting the memes. You having a blast. You did a whole fucking media rollout. I don't follow them.
Starting point is 00:32:02 You do the press run. You're doing the press run. He made a lot of posts. Well, you get straightened up.. You do the press run. You're doing the press run. He made a lot of posts. Well, you get straightened out. He has a show, so he should be doing a press run. He has a brand new show that's a hit. Okay. Was he talking to Drake?
Starting point is 00:32:13 The show has done half a million, a million both times out. The show is a smash. Was he talking crazy about Quavo during any of that? Well, who are you asking? He just said he was making a bunch of memes if you're asking quavo if you're asking quavo then the answer is yes in my song only human there was a dude in the third verse running around with something some old work of mine he was getting extra with it i wanted to do something to him not because i wanted her he was just real extra with it this was real extra
Starting point is 00:32:46 if you're a man and you've been in this spot i don't see how you don't understand his position i get it no no no again i didn't know what had transpired well now that you know where do you stand again if he was talking slick he needed some straightened out if you were making a joke out of my situation my breakup my cetera. And you are being disrespectful. You handle what comes along with that. Even before that, you're sitting here, you're allowing a question. You know, that's my girl. You know, you know.
Starting point is 00:33:16 How can I say? It's do's and don'ts. It's do's and don'ts. It's do's and don'ts. There we go. And when you cross that line, then you handle what comes along. You have to deal with that. You got to deal with what comes along.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Now, but my stance on that is, let's just say hypothetically, I've always had this stance. If I catch my girl coming out the hotel with the dude, I don't know the dude. Okay. I'm not fighting the dude. Yes, you are. I promise you I'm not. I was when I was 18 years old, but as a grown man, I'm not fighting the dude. Wait, wait, you are. Yes, you are. I fought the dude when I was like 18 years old. But as a grown man, I'm not fighting the dude. I'm not fighting the dude.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I have the girl. Wait, wait. Time out. You have fought the dude. I have never fought the dude. You have been in this exact situation. And nothing happened to the dude. Not one thing.
Starting point is 00:33:59 I looked at the nigga. Why? He said he didn't have no problems. He didn't want no problems. But what if he was with you? So that's a fucking contradiction. What are you talking about? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Listen to the dude and fight the dude. It's different. No, no, listen to the dude. Oh, come on. No, that's not true. No, because the only difference is the dude's bad. Let me hear it. Let me hear it.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Let me hear it. Let me hear it. If I catch my girl coming out the hotel. You know, if you was there and I was there. You weren't there. But if I catch my girl coming out the hotel. You asked me to pull up. It wasn't to talk to her.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Hey, you asked me to pull up. Where does he come up with these thoughts? You asked me to pull up. It wasn't to talk to her. Hey, you asked me to pull up. Yo, where's he come up with these thoughts? You asked me to pull up, and it wasn't to speak to her. Man, you come up with the fabrication. Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me finish my story. No, I'm not going to let you lie. Let him finish the story.
Starting point is 00:34:34 And we was in a strip club. Let him finish. Oh, I forgot that time. Tell us all this. What did I do? Get your shit on. No, I didn't do nothing. Speak to him.
Starting point is 00:34:42 All right, so watch this. If I catch my girl Yes Coming out of a hotel With a dude I don't have a problem With the dude If I don't know him Now if I know you
Starting point is 00:34:50 That's a situation If I don't know you You have not done Anything disrespectful To me at all Can I just ask you One question on that Shoot
Starting point is 00:34:57 You might not know him He knows you He does not He knows I'm asking you He might know Don't ignore I want to answer I want to answer Then let it there He might know don't ignore I want to answer
Starting point is 00:35:06 I want to answer then let it there he might know she has a man no I didn't say no I didn't say that
Starting point is 00:35:11 I didn't say he knows Ish yes he knows he know that's Ish Chick yo I have been with Ish through this
Starting point is 00:35:19 yo this guy is nuts I'm asking you to answer no no no you can't talk about the lie let me lie let me finish the story. Let me lie.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Answer my question, though. Answer my question, please. No, no. I don't have a problem with that. Can I talk? Can I talk now? He don't know me. He don't owe me shit.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Ishmael. We've all fucked a nigga's wife or girl in this room. I'm going to ish on this one. Unless he's like my mans or something like that. Yeah, like are you crazy? So watch this. Can I talk? No, no.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Let me finish my stance. I know what it is. If I'm popping a nigga's girl, I know she got a man. If you get caught cheating by your man, that's on you. All right. Are you crazy? Let me ask you another question, Ish. Since you said everyone has popped somebody's girl.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Hey, you know he fucked a lot of nigga's girls. Yo, do y'all hear him? He has fucked a lot of nigga's girls. Yes, you have. In my life? Absolutely, I have. When else will we be talking about this? I didn't expect us to really get this far into this topic.
Starting point is 00:36:10 We just totally derailed. Ish, let me talk for two seconds. You have had this argument because you've spoken to me about this argument. And I have felt the same. So I've had this argument in my life as well. When a girl that we've been intimate with starts fucking with a new dude and now the new dude knows our identity and they keep his secret from us. That's an issue. That's a safety issue.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Indeed. And we, because we real niggas, we say something to the girl. Yo, man, what the fuck are you doing over there if i'm in a club and your dude comes out and he knows my face and i don't know his face what took place you are you you what do you want us to fight oh you're putting yes this is all right so watch this what he's speaking on happened to me i wasn't even fucking the girl. I hadn't seen the girl in literally years. Old work. I hadn't seen her.
Starting point is 00:37:09 I hadn't placed my eyes on her in years. I don't even know what her dude looks like. I'm going to do you one worse than whatever he is saying. The nigga comes up. I don't even know who you are. The nigga put his hand out. I'm going to shake the nigga's hand like, what up, dog? You know niggas know your face from being in the spot.'m thinking he's one of them i don't know what
Starting point is 00:37:28 version of a story that ish is telling that may be a separate time maybe no you were there that time in my version you went up to go to the bathroom all you was doing was going to take a piss yes dude came up to me after after my ass he came up to you after me and him got into our little rift right they pulled me in a room he then goes up to joe and says yo can i talk to you outside joe says no no you can't talk to me outside not know who the fuck are you you the nigga my man is piping your girl guess what i don't even speak to my man about the girls he pipe i don't even really talk to this nigga outside of strip club night what you want me to say not and if you touch me again i'm gonna do something to you and it's not for him it's not for my man why i'm here to look at ass so you understand that point of view
Starting point is 00:38:22 the dude's point of view? No, I don't. Mine too, god damn it. I don't understand his stance. I totally disagree with his stance. So back to this. You disagree with the Migos possibly kicking Justin LaVoy ass? No, I don't disagree. If Justin LaVoy stepped out of pocket and said
Starting point is 00:38:40 some shit he wasn't supposed to say or did some shit he wasn't supposed to do or try to ridicule these niggas in a time of breakup he deserved merry fistmas i don't follow justin on instagram so i don't know if he's posting his special shit but if they just beat him up for business that's kind of crazy exactly now if you just
Starting point is 00:39:08 beat him up because your girl came on the show talking about niggas she used to fuck or whatever the case may be and you approach him with that
Starting point is 00:39:14 no handle that with your chick what if he did handle that with his chick and I want to kick your ass too
Starting point is 00:39:21 just because I'm still tight again if these niggas did not Justin LaVas did not, Justin LaVoy did not disrespect these dudes, you tight on your own.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Hey, you ever been in love before, Ish? Yes. Okay. The real love too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the real love. Yeah, the one where you looking yourself in the mirror like, what the fuck are you doing? That one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Yeah, that Brian McKnight sitting in the dark by yourself. All of that, nigga, yes. Some of our women audience, while we're on the topic, want to know if you have a significant other, one. And two, if you do, can she fight? I've seen that question. That has been a question. No, they really want to know. They asked me that. And I'm like, yo, I don't know if his girl can fight.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I can't speak to that. Maybe you can. I don't know. You just don't have I can't speak to that. Maybe you can. I don't know. They still have to answer that question. I mean, they just don't have to answer that. That's your lawyer? All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:13 I advise you to plead the fifth. I'm supposed to answer if my girl can fight. Well, really. What they want to know, are you faithful and can she fight? Now, I won't tell them. I don't even know. I don't even know. Yo, I don't know if any of my friends are faithful.
Starting point is 00:40:31 I don't know if they're good men. I don't know any of those things. Jesus Christ. No, because people be thinking because you see me with somebody that I know about them. I can't vouch for these dudes. I don't know what y'all do. Fifths all around. You know I'm a stand-up guy.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Everyone pleading the fifth today. I like it. That's a little vice versa with that too, Joe. What? You know, as your friend, we catch a lot of hell for shit you do. That's a big fact. And it's like. Oh, y'all was trying to tell me.
Starting point is 00:40:57 That's what was the good topic there. I don't know if I should save that or what. Y'all was trying to tell me I changed with money? Yeah. Are we serious? Yeah. We said that. You absolutely changed. That to tell me I changed with money? Yeah. Are we serious? Yeah. We said that. You absolutely changed.
Starting point is 00:41:08 That's where we're going right now? Yeah. You have admitted that you changed with money. Let's go into that a different time. Oh, man. Yeah. Let's see if we can save that. Back on that.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Fast on the ass. I like that verbiage. What verbiage? What's that? Some straightening out niggas' knees. Yeah. I'm feeling that. Some acrobat word.
Starting point is 00:41:29 That's all the same shit. Niggas' knees are back. They ain't released that verbiage when one of theirs got straightened out, though. That's also a good one. I mean, you wouldn't release that verbiage. That verbiage is going to look bad when that elevator footage makes its rounds. When a real one, a noted real one did some straightening.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Gave them some act right. This ain't, meh. Corey. Yeah, you don't get points. You don't get points for that. I don't know anything about any of that.
Starting point is 00:41:52 The nigga that gets any act right, they not gonna get on public TV and say, yeah, I got straightened out. That's what you talking about. Yeah, but wait a minute. But even with what
Starting point is 00:42:00 Corey is saying, what I like about the Migos is they'll scrap. They will. Yeah, respect that word. You gotta respect that. Who cares about the Migos is they'll scrap. Yeah. Respect that. You got to respect that. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:42:07 You got to respect that. You'll scrap. Thank God they spared me. Thank God Joe was spared the fisticuffs. Merry fistmas, it says. Because they got up ready to take them cufflinks off and serve me up. It was the Versace blouses. Because of that, they let you slide.
Starting point is 00:42:25 They ain't want to ruffle they feathers. I thank God about some of the passes I've got. Thank you, Quavius, and take off. Yeah, they was on you. Those my guys, though. I like that. They was like ass that day. That they spared me.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Had an award show, my little white shirt on. You kidding me? With our $200 security there. The fuck we was going to do? I could have took him. I could have took our security. I remember that was the first time a lot of people saw.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Ag wasn't going to help me. Nadeska wasn't going to help me. It was going to be me getting pummeled. Nah, they'd have got you. I've been pummeled before though, but now the nigga was in some star belts on. Man, if you get no ass whooping,
Starting point is 00:43:03 those niggas are ready to tighten you right on up it's true yeah you was gonna get straightened out there's another one that popped up
Starting point is 00:43:09 that was the straightening look he got aggressive with it too that was the straightening yeah you was gonna get right straightened out
Starting point is 00:43:15 they spared me thank the lord what else what else is happening that needs our opinion nothing really needs our opinion no not this
Starting point is 00:43:23 don't take me to this yet get that out of here uh Deshaun Watson y'all wanna get to it look Nothing really needs our opinion. No, not this. Don't take me to this yet. Deshaun Watson, y'all want to get to? It look bad. It look bad. I don't see what looks bad. This. It's bad.
Starting point is 00:43:35 That doesn't look good. When it was like two, I thought, all right, that's just it. I don't care if it was 27. Someone fucking would leverage. 19 people? Bruh, Deshaun Watson has been touted for how pristine his image was,
Starting point is 00:43:47 how good he was, et cetera, et cetera. The second he's demanding a fucking trade, still nigga. 19. Still nigga. 19.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Still nigga. Still a nigga. That's all I take from that. It's going to be 29 in a minute. Probably so. Yo, the one girl, the report that I saw, the girl said,
Starting point is 00:44:04 basically, What's this guy writing? that I saw, the girl said basically. It's this guy, right? What? Hey, and that's what's funny. He's going to disrupt the pod, then go build a house and not have nothing to do with the pod. And I got to sit here and deal with somebody's opinions. No, I'm giving an example. Let me speak.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Get the shit off. If he did something inappropriate, right, that is proven, he needs to be punished for it. Of course. Right? What I saw was a whole bunch of innuendo. Like the one girl says, yo, she was giving him a massage, right? He got erect and started pumping in the air. Yeah, you can't do that.
Starting point is 00:44:37 You get a charge for that? Yes, it is. No, you don't. Yes, you do. You can't pump the air in the massage. Yo, you are a monster. No, you don't. Yes, you do. You are a monster. It's not a criminal charge. Y'all need to be arrested.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Yes, you do. Coming from the nigga that wears no drawers and sweatpants to the strip club. You can't arrest me for that. You can't arrest him for opening the end. I'm going tonight with no drawers on and some sweats
Starting point is 00:45:05 you cannot arrest Joe now with that said Ish if I get just if I'm sitting here we pardon I just sit up and start gyrating my hips
Starting point is 00:45:14 in the air with no music playing coming on myself I'm leaving and you're calling the police on me no wait in this report
Starting point is 00:45:23 he was pumping the air and busted. For that alone, you didn't even get no contact. Which I do not believe. He just busted the air and jerked him off? Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:33 That's what you're saying. No, I'm not rolling. There you go. I'm sorry. I'm not rolling. There you go. Joe's been to a massage parlor. I want sponsors and ads.
Starting point is 00:45:41 I don't believe you. At some point, you have to play the advertising game. These takes are not getting it, dude. There's award shows coming.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Yeah. This shit, we need in on, man. Are we not potting that? Oh, my God. Y'all doing too much fucking potting, novices.
Starting point is 00:46:03 You can't come on here and just be talking about it. That's what happens when you bring us on here can't come on here and just be honest about your opinion yo the pot is gonna go on
Starting point is 00:46:11 he's gonna be off building houses we gonna get shut down yo all right you've been to a massage parlor
Starting point is 00:46:18 I have ice have you yes I have parks have you of course savon have you and updated to masseuse.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Alright, Parks, you're different. Do some stuff. Do some stuff. Oh, man. Oh, man. She coming home. You better shut your mouth she coming home you better shut your white mouth okay
Starting point is 00:46:49 and you were saying you dated in a suit yeah I know that they encounter a bunch of creepy activity all the fucking time I'm sure now
Starting point is 00:46:56 if I'm siding with Parks which on half of this I am I know women that have gone to massage parlors and been sexually abused and assaulted. And they live with that. I'm sure. That's a regular thing.
Starting point is 00:47:12 I'm sure. I'm sure. That shit comes up a lot. So when the Deshaun Watson stuff comes up, granted, no one is saying that those things happened where you forced yourself on someone, right? I don't have it right there. There has been a couple accusations that he tried to force them to perform oral sex or whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Okay. Forced them to push their head down. Some shit like that, I guess. Allegedly. I don't, you know, this is all. I'm just, yeah, I get it. After 90 minutes, Watson asked to extend his session
Starting point is 00:47:44 for another hour. Please speak into the microphone, sir. She continued to work only his quads and her thighs. Oh, this is what I read. Now, this is the young lady. Let me brief the audience. This is a young lady that is- You're rubbing on his thighs.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Hold up, hold up, hold up. Oh, you can't. We're blocking all of you. It's fucking crazy. Ish, let me talk for a minute. Let me talk for a minute. The young lady that's given this that's giving this testimony on sports illustrated is not a part of the lawsuit
Starting point is 00:48:11 she is not suing as of today and sports illustrated has gone out of their way in attempt to corroborate, vet her story, and validify it. They even document such as they go on. Quick question. She says... Hold on, quick question. How did they find her
Starting point is 00:48:35 if she's not a part of the lawsuit? Like, did she reach out to them? Or... Like, how does sports illustrate finding this person? They've been in touch with her before any of this Deshaun Watson stuff
Starting point is 00:48:44 even broke for whatever the reason be. I think she said that she is a massage therapist for pro athletes as a career. I guess her shit. Okay. She is a massage therapist. Got it. She runs her own business, has her own massage parlor in Houston.
Starting point is 00:49:03 The name of that parlor and her name have been withheld for anonymity purposes, of course. She goes on to say that she has a contract with a third-party masseuse that the masseuse will send people over to her. She does the massage. They take the cut. Blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:49:20 You've seen this movie before. She said it's typical that she finds out who these people are 15 minutes before the massage. That's totally normal. Sound about right. She said Deshaun Watson came with rules such as he needs to be brought up to her back door, one, and two, instead of the standard sheet. He preferred a towel. According to her and Sports Illustrated, that's the same testimony of many of the victims is that he didn't want the sheet.
Starting point is 00:49:48 You know, the sheet that they give us. He wanted a towel. Now, as soon as I read that, I imagine because I've been there, a towel in there. Listen, your dick gets hard. Your dick gets hard. There's nothing wrong with your dick getting hard. there's nothing wrong with your dick getting hard there is something wrong when you invite the person to touch it
Starting point is 00:50:06 move it work around it speak to it that's not what you're there for I imagine that if your dick is hard and you don't have a bath sheet like if you're dealing with a towel right it's not much wiggle room your dick will be
Starting point is 00:50:22 exposed at some point I imagine that so this I see where this could get really creepy it's not much wiggle room. Your dick will be exposed at some point. I imagine that. So this, I see where this could get really creepy. Or could get gray. I told you. So now he's laying on his back as is her testimony. At some point he removes the towel,
Starting point is 00:50:35 says it's itching him. And he's asking her to work around his penis bear. This is not like anything she's used to. She continues, because who fucking knows when you're in that spot. Yeah, yeah. And now you have many women that are making the claim of you get in the massage parlor and start going crazy.
Starting point is 00:50:58 You can't go crazy in the massage parlor. I concur. It's also kind of weird that he's had like, however many, 19 different masseuses at this point. That's kind of excessive. This same chick.'s also kind of weird that he's had like however many 19 different masseuses at this point that's kind of excessive this same chick that's that's kind of weird look no this same chick said that he he hit her up again right and he totally forgot yes she said that he had seen her before two more times after that this had transpired with her he totally forgot yeah so they said that he either gets a shitload of massages and that's his thing.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Well, that's a pretty normal thing I would imagine for a pro athlete. But she said that basically she had to send him a clip of a conversation that they had to remind him that he had seen her before. And then she said he just stopped hitting the brush. See, that's weird. Yeah, that's very weird. That sounds like shit she know. Having 20-something different masseuses. She not with the fuck shit, so I'm going to See, that's weird. Yeah, that's very weird. That sounds like, oh shit, she know. Having 20-something different masseuses.
Starting point is 00:51:46 She not with the fuck shit, so I'm going to highlight somebody else. Yeah. It's possible. Yeah. If all of this is true, and at this point, I'm going to assume that it is
Starting point is 00:51:57 because I believe women. But if all of this is true, my issue is not only with Deshaun Watson and his behavior, but it's with all of the people that were complicit in suppressing this. Yeah, my issue is not only with Deshaun Watson and his behavior, but it's with all of the people that were complicit in suppressing this. Yeah, that's what I was saying before. Because if this existed, then it existed and some people knew. And when he's tried to buck the system, we unleash the foul.
Starting point is 00:52:17 And that's what I think happened. And I have an issue with all parties involved. That's what I said. To me, this is the organization. I agree. While when we love you, we'll protect you. We're going to protect you.
Starting point is 00:52:28 And the second that you want to break, you can't. Exactly. We got to remind you who you are. Still there. Stay in your place, boy. That is true. Oh, you think you can beat the system?
Starting point is 00:52:36 Let me show you something. All that shit we held on you, now we throw it out there. Which would make the organization, in my mind, maybe not equally nasty, but nasty in their own right if not more yeah i'd say more not more i'd say more because of it oh go ahead i'm sorry it's
Starting point is 00:52:53 the same thing as when um you find out when they killed joe paterno on a knowing about his man exactly look or look police brutality right and so um there'll be instances like it was one in bloomfield where uh these cops snatched this kid out of a car they beat him up and they lied on a report saying that he tried to grab their gun that he punched one of them etc etc they had two pieces of footage it was two cars right for like a year and some change the boy was about to do a seven seven with a five or seven with a three. He was about to go to jail. A reporter, Snoop and Snoop and Snoop, found the original footage from one of the other carcass cams
Starting point is 00:53:32 and brought it forward. In my opinion... I wonder if that's what they based the Light for Life episode on. No, the chief of police, all of them need to be fired. I'm not caught up on that. All of them need to be fired, in my opinion. Not just the cops that conducted the act. Everybody that
Starting point is 00:53:48 played a role in covering it up. It went to Eternal Affairs twice. Eternal Affairs twice. They don't do shit. And they exonerated the cops
Starting point is 00:53:55 of any wrongdoing, right? Of course. So when it finally hit the fan, everybody involved needs to go to jail. While we're here, let me ask you guys.
Starting point is 00:54:04 I got a point on that. Well, go ahead before I take this off. Why I say the organization, you know, if they were doing that cover-up shit, should be held responsible and probably even worse than him because you might not get to 19 people if they step in as soon
Starting point is 00:54:20 as they find out. That's my point. That's true. I still think that the person committing the crime is still nastier than the people covering it up. But if this is brought to their attention and they conduct an investigation, rather than this is our star, we're going to hide this, you just protected 18 other people.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Right. Or however many other people. Instead, you hide it, you allow him to keep doing it. Yeah. That's a bigger problem. It's not nastier if the people covering it up make it possible for the crime to be committed. You said what? Is that a question or a statement?
Starting point is 00:54:51 No, it's a statement. It's not nastier. You said it's nastier the person committing the crime. I think the person that's committing the crime is still the nastiest person in the equation. And I agree with Ice. I think they're equal. Not if the person that's covering up is enabling the person to commit the equation. And I agree with Ice. I think they're equal. Not if the person that's covering up is enabling
Starting point is 00:55:07 the person to commit the crime. They can stop that. Yeah. An addict is an addict. An addict is going to addict no matter what you try to do. If they're not ready to submit and they haven't hit their rock bottom, an addict is going to addict the end of that. Now, the person that is
Starting point is 00:55:24 enabling that person, yeah. I'm not the moral police, but... Me either. It's just two ways of looking at it. I think that the main guy. But carry on. While we're here, what do you stand on Cuomo? And just real quick. I have not
Starting point is 00:55:42 kept up with that story. In what regards? Cuomo, same thing as Des sean watson uh a bunch of similar yeah again like powerful man beef beefed with trump allegations came out they want him to step down true or not he has to step down true or not he has to step down it don't even matter and that and that unfortunate. Now, again, even in Deshaun's instance, I want to be clear in saying if he did violate somebody at any given time, he deserves to be held
Starting point is 00:56:13 accountable for that. Of course. And punished for that, right? However, we've seen this fold out a bunch of different times, right? Same thing with Cuomo. He was the,
Starting point is 00:56:26 last year, they were talking about Cuomo for president. Like, he was the best shit since sliced bread last year. He was the star politician of Toy Story.
Starting point is 00:56:34 That I remember. Right? And so now, all of a sudden, you might have crossed the wrong motherfucker. Right? And now,
Starting point is 00:56:40 cool, whatever dirt we, hmm? If either one of these gentlemen are guilty, arrest these heathens, get them off the street and remove them from position. I agree. Plenty of times I've gone in the masseuse parlor horny.
Starting point is 00:56:53 You can't just gyrate your hips in the air and jerk your dick and come on your stomach and expect the person to work on you. I'm sorry. You're a weirdo. Yeah. You are a weirdo. I disagree with that. Because they have places where you can go and that's cool.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Yeah. That's the problem. that's the problem that's the problem that's the nutsy part this is the nutsy part you could just literally go hire a masseuse that gets busy
Starting point is 00:57:16 that's with that correct easy to find with that bag and you can just ask bag and you can just ask
Starting point is 00:57:24 that's true you going to somebody's professional place you can just ask you going to somebody's professional place you can find a motherfucker that will come
Starting point is 00:57:30 massage every part of your body that's what Shorty is saying in this interview she's like hey I'm damaged doing this job for the rest of
Starting point is 00:57:38 life now like mentally yeah I've never been in that spot and reading it as a man I'm like he didn't
Starting point is 00:57:45 he didn't rape he didn't do that what spot you never been in and then she goes on to say i've never been in a situation where a dude just threw his towel told invited me to his dick i'm professional i do athletes i've been here and i've never gone through this before some of the women that i know that have been sexually abused in that same situation their experience going to a spa now for the rest of life is different i can imagine yeah it ain't as simple as hey we on vacation it's three o'clock good no no no let me dig into this who is it who's there i'm fighting cases it It gets nuts. It gets nuts. I'm going to go with that. Yeah, man. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:58:31 She said he had pre-cum on his stomach. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't do that. You can't do that. And listen, I'm the pre-cum king. You cannot do that around someone that doesn't want that. Nobody wants to know about that. We don't need to know that much.
Starting point is 00:58:48 I thought y'all just assumed I was the king of surgeons. Who crowns himself the pre-cum king? Oh, you think I crown myself? You don't think the ladies? Say damn. This two-minute nigga? Let's take a break. They over there like, damn. This two-minute nigga?
Starting point is 00:58:57 Look, the ladies over there like, damn, this nigga wet? Word. That's not something to be just around bra guess i said we're gonna take a break commercial after this commercial we're gonna get right here you're all right so during a commercial break somehow we got back to justin the boy and sweetie and all of that stuff we do have other shit to get to off of this but what were we saying? I was just saying that I still agree with him getting some act right. I'm with it. That's all.
Starting point is 00:59:30 I didn't know that Homeboy was the co-host. Yeah. And they was talking saucy. They can't get to Homeboy. Oh, he's get to? No, they can't get to Homeboy. All right, listen. Let's move on, right, to some other relationship drama.
Starting point is 00:59:47 I'll present you gentlemen with the situation. You tell me how you would respond. Let's do it. All right. We are at Fugiano versus Trey Songz. Okay. I can't give you too much background on Fugiano because I'm 40 years old. But Fugiano is Rene Rucci's boyfriend.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Rene Rucci is a female rapper affiliated with QC. Her boyfriend's Fugiano. I'm not certain who he is. Let me just let you know, Fugiano is signed to Gucci's So Icy Entertainment. Oh, he's a rapper? entertainment oh he's a rapper yeah he's a rapper him and pooch ice d were the the like the feature artists on the new uh was it 10 17 records yeah okay so that helps me a bit because i mean i don't know much about him but he's a very well dressed gentleman i'll give you a little bit more about him just so you know the type of person he is. Give it to me. Fugiano got arrested for, I forget what the trial, I think it was a shootout or something he was involved in.
Starting point is 01:00:52 I could be wrong on that part. But as soon as he made bond, he burnt the ankle bracelet off. This is all true. Went on the run and continued flicking it up for the gram the entire time so just a little background on the type of person a nigga that don't give a fuck well Ice just answered
Starting point is 01:01:15 so many questions for me because I remember seeing him cause I like how he dresses well dressed guy then he went away to jail and I wasn't certain why he went away to jail. But okay, good to know now. And now Trey Songz has insta-snapped a picture of his girlfriend. No words.
Starting point is 01:01:37 I didn't see a caption. Of his own girlfriend? Of Rene Rucci. No, of Rene Rucci. No, of Fuji's girlfriend. Fujiano's girlfriend. He didn't put any words? Didn't put any words. Didn't put any words.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Didn't put a caption. He just put a beautiful picture of her. She's a beautiful woman. She is a beautiful woman. And that caused Fugiano to threaten Trey Songz from the jail phone. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:57 And say, yo, when I see you, what's up? I'm beating your ass. I'm fucking you up. I'm fucking your security up. From the jail phone. From the jail phone. the jail phone a little bit more info that's what he said yep trey songs then replied with ha imagine like you would if
Starting point is 01:02:14 you're a man imagine that picture that dudes it's funny yeah get out your feelings ain't no money in there all the things that the trey songs would say So here I am to ask you, gentlemen, I'll start with Parks. Shoot. Somebody puts your fiancé in their Insta story. Uh-huh. No caption. She's just a beautiful woman. She is. They admire her and adore that and recognize that as well.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Your response to that is what? Someone that I don't know? An artist, yeah, that you do not know that has never met you or your fiance. Uh, hmm. I'm not sure how I'd act, honestly. I'm not sure. I'll toss it to Ish here.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Oh, wait, you're not done? Give it to me. I would probably say hello in the DM in some type of way. What's up? You would say hi to the guy. I would say, yeah. I love this.
Starting point is 01:03:10 What's up? I love this. Just letting you know I'm around. Yeah, I'm around. That's it. Right, Joe? What's going on? To the guy from jail.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Yeah, you hear me. What from jail is? That's what you would say. It's a different, it's a different. All right, so you would reply to the guy and say,
Starting point is 01:03:22 yo, I'm around. Yo, it's me. That's my girl. She's fine. Thank you. I appreciate you. You like her too. All right. So you would reply to the guy and say, yo. I've never been to jail, so I'm around. Yo, it's me. That's my girl. She's fine. Thank you. I appreciate you. You like her too?
Starting point is 01:03:29 All right. I see where you're going with that. All right. Ish? I'm not saying a thing. He put a picture up of my girl that my girl probably posted on a social media platform herself. I'm with Ish on that.
Starting point is 01:03:44 He didn't. He didn't. He don't have my girl in his house on his couch. Today? Exactly. And again, back to our original point. What if your girl likes him? If she went on that couch, she went on there on her own accord. And my beef is with her and not with him.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Exactly. You're right. No, if she likes you, my beef is with you too. I don't have a beef with you if she's still my girl. Then you call your girl on the jail call and she got his music playing in the background. It's a slightly different situation though. From my...
Starting point is 01:04:13 You know, Mr. Still Your Girl is playing. Of all people. It's a different situation from... If someone finds Rem who has a pretty discreet public profile, that's different from someone who has a massive Instagram following. In that situation, you kind of got to just
Starting point is 01:04:29 come with it. Your girl posts the pictures of herself. Correct. She's in the entertainment industry. Correct. In some form or fashion. That's going to happen. That's her, right? You can't fight every dude that think your girl is fine. That's my thing. That's my only thing. your girl is fine. Yeah, that's my thing.
Starting point is 01:04:45 That's my only thing. Your girl is fine. She's fine. She's a pretty girl. So again, he just posted her. You got to be a little bit more secure, too. Yeah, but you can't be Mr. Steel, your girl, and post my girl. You got to.
Starting point is 01:04:55 See, that's where it's tricky. You know what? That is a little bit. Because why are you posting my girl? You're doing that for a reason. If you Mr. Steel Mike. No, no, no. That's funny.
Starting point is 01:05:03 If you know she's my girl and you put her in your Insta story, you low-key being disrespectful. All right. High key. And I'm locked up. No, it's high key. It's high key. Drake's girl thought that Drake would never be as big as Trey Songz. Boy, was she wrong.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Look, again. I'm just saying what he said. We know. Because you got to be in the top 1 to come come off the fight on that end hey you were wrong i'm bigger than him yeah ah oh everybody don't get that off no that's right but again when dre songs like tahiri that was the end of you was dead nigga I'm asking you asking me something that you was dead for
Starting point is 01:05:48 no I'm asking what was the end of I'm asking you why you asking me something you was dead for the listeners don't know the listeners do know the first day memorandum
Starting point is 01:05:55 yeah yeah yeah no need no need I forgot that was the end no what happened okay what happened
Starting point is 01:06:02 he lives up to his title oh oh trade oh he robbed you I don't know what y'all Wabbit. Wabbit. He lives up to his title. Oh. Oh. Trade. Oh, he robbed you? I don't know what y'all are laughing at. What are y'all laughing at? I'm asking you, did he steal your girl?
Starting point is 01:06:14 I've been in bouts with men where I lost the bout. So is that a yes? Do you think you haven't been? Nigga stole. Nah. Nobody ever stole my girl. Yeah. no i haven't all right lucky you lucky you haven't had many girlfriends lucky you is all i'm saying listen life is a series of my bad that didn't't happened to you. That he claimed. It's fine. No, that's not true.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Moving along is fine. I mean, you've been blessed. You've been blessed. But even in that situation, we were making jokes about it, but when Trey put the picture up. I knew that I was with somebody that wanted to fuck that nigga. And you let him know you were with somebody. But you responded.
Starting point is 01:07:03 What I'm saying is you responded to him. I responded. I enjoyed the rest of my time and that was No, you responded. You responded. What did I say? Just like you know I'm around.
Starting point is 01:07:11 That wasn't no, no, you're wrong. You did. You're wrong. That wasn't for him? That wasn't for her. That was for a different girl. Oh.
Starting point is 01:07:21 It was a different girl. He said something and I said I'm around. You're right. That was a different girl. I something and I said I'm around you're right that was a different girl you're right yeah it was
Starting point is 01:07:28 should I just be shooting at all your bitches he's your Jeff Goldblum and Joe got a seat tray man oh man Joe got a seat tray no I don't what are y'all talking about
Starting point is 01:07:42 damn no I don't we just had a whole talk oh now look y'all on the other side of No, I don't. We just had a whole talk. Oh, now look, y'all, on the other side of it. Now I got to see Trey. Well, now it's weird when someone goes to multiple. No, no, no. I didn't say that.
Starting point is 01:07:51 If a guy comes at multiple girls of yours, then there's- Then what? There's some beef. No, they just have multiple, the same taste. Then what? Then women. That's weird. They have the same type.
Starting point is 01:07:59 That's not weird. That's weird. My type isn't type. Yeah. What is my type? That's weird. I don't see that as weird. Trey's type. My type isn't type? Yeah. What is my type? That's weird. I don't see that as weird.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Trey's type is your type. I know some of the men who have the same type that I had. And you run into each other. OK. And you celebrities. And you know you run into each other. You know the celebrities that's into the girls that you into. You know those things.
Starting point is 01:08:18 But when they start finding some shit that, like a girl that maybe you aren't public with or something like that? There's no such thing as what you're saying. OK. There is. Damn, that's, no, there's not. Maybe for you, that's a such thing as what you're saying. Okay. Damn, no, there's not. Maybe for you, that's a luxury. But when you're famous. Hold on, what did you say?
Starting point is 01:08:29 I said if he finds some girl that maybe you're not putting on front street and is going at that too. He puts all his girls on front street. That's not true. Stop that. Stop that. Now, let's have an intelligent conversation. That's not what you do. Let's talk about this.
Starting point is 01:08:42 I want to hear that. You know that I have dealt with women that have not been on Front Street publicly. When you're seen with that person out and you're a famous figure, you are going through the same exact thing that you go through on social media with the famous people.
Starting point is 01:09:00 You get it. Yeah. I mean, should I went through the same thing with the dope boys on the block? You don't have to necessarily put them on front street if somebody finds out that and i have women now that haven't been on front street not many people know our affiliation but a few people do from however they saw me at catch steak whatever it is and now they follow that woman dm that woman find that woman go out of their way to find that woman. And I have to tell this to you.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Rappers have found your girl. That's true. And your girl's not on Front Street. That's true. So then why do you have this position? That's what I'm confused. People will find your girl. Yeah, no, that's true.
Starting point is 01:09:36 On purpose. Period. Right. You've had fine women. Niggas have come and found them. Listen, what you want me to say my point Joe is that if someone is targeting multiple of your women and then they find the girls
Starting point is 01:09:50 that are not on front street then it feels a little weird to me and what I'm telling you is that in the event that you weren't in this beautiful blissful engagement and you went on a run where you bumped into 10 rims physically not of course
Starting point is 01:10:05 who she is sure somebody that also likes that style woman you're gonna bump into them on your on your journey
Starting point is 01:10:14 that's all I'm saying that's it especially if you're on the same industry hey listen this is gonna sound bad in my
Starting point is 01:10:21 humble opinion I think that I have had the pleasure of being intimate with some really attractive women. Why does that sound bad? That's true. I believe that to be true. I think that's public knowledge.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Hey, when I bump into other men who want to consistently sleep with the women that I sleep with, yes, I think it's weird when I get into me, but when I get out of me, they're fine. The women are fine. You should want to fuck them.
Starting point is 01:10:50 I agree. You shouldn't have all the respect for me to say, oh, that's Joe's piece. That's Joe's work. Joe been there. I'm not...
Starting point is 01:10:59 I don't think that much of meant to think that that's how they moving out of here. I agree. I have friends that I think have beaten some of my, some of my work. I have family members that have beat some of my work behind my back.
Starting point is 01:11:12 You might've been there for that too. You bitch. I didn't pop in your fucking Michael. You and Michael Paul boy. You two niggas. You two niggas boy. Me and Michael Paul. I mean, water, boy. Me and Michael Paul. You two niggas, boy. Me and Michael Paul. I mean, water under the bridge.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Matters none. But Shorty never told me neither. We just still cool. Oh, man. That's the worst. It's the game. And I think that's the part of the game that Trey Songz plays. It's the game for me.
Starting point is 01:11:38 The game is the game. Again, so. Your girl is fine. I'm Mr. Steel, your girl. I'm appreciating your girl. What you want to do with it? And I'm respecting that game. If she comes to fuck me, that wasn't your girl, and you better not say nothing to me about it.
Starting point is 01:11:48 That's true. That's his position. I get that, but at the same time, I understand dude's position. Like, yo, all right. I'm willing to take it. Like, he might be willing to take it. You're in jail. Obviously, he don't give a fuck about that.
Starting point is 01:12:01 If he's in jail, on the jail phone making threats. Yeah. You're not even supposed to be on the phone, my nigga. Bro's in jail, on the jail phone making threats. Yeah. You're not even supposed to be on the phone, my nigga. Bro, like, he's on the phone making threats.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Let them be known. Okay. So this says a little bit more. He don't care about prayers for all parties involved. Sure. Prayers for Fujiano. Prayers for Ruchi.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Prayers for Trey. Prayers for all parties involved. That's why I don't fuck niggas' girls no more. You never know what niggas is willing to take it when they niggas is willing to take it I'm not fucking nobody's girl that's really it hopefully the three of you have stopped that too man I'm not fucking anybody
Starting point is 01:12:34 you stopped that? good man thank god you used to live reckless too both of y'all actually alright so what's the next topic niggas didn't care about her man. What is the next topic? Lil Nas X, Nike, devil worshiper, Air Maxes.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Lil Nas X secured a deal with a third-party company to do the devil Nike Air Maxes. Started gaining some traction and momentum. Nike put out a press release to say they have nothing to do with that. And if that wasn't enough, they then moved forward with legal action to sue, send a cease and desist. We did not authorize the rights to license this sneaker to you or for you to do anything of the sort. You have to stop the in-between part is that uh everyone lashed out never buying nikes again which prompted nike to yeah squash it made them smack now the other part which is funny to me is this same company released a holy water shoe a jesus shoe where instead of blood it was holy
Starting point is 01:13:39 water under the radar no problems and that's what a lot of people are pointing out like who doesn't like jesus i get it but a lot of people are pointing out. Who doesn't like Jesus? I get it, but a lot of people are pointing that out where, okay, you allow this and now you got a problem with that. The seaside doc
Starting point is 01:13:53 that I watched on Netflix learned me to the fact that the same corporations that are defending the shark extinction and the killing of sharks are the same companies that are profiting on the killing of sharks are the same companies that are profiting on the
Starting point is 01:14:06 killing of sharks when i watched the eyeglass whatever that was whoever that was andrew teaches you something whatever the name of that shit was they taught me that in an eyeglass business uh the same companies that sell the glasses are the same companies that sell the contact lens they own them they They make them. They're going to profit on both sides. Who cares which way you want to go? So that's why that's not so shocking to me, what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:14:32 So they cool. They're going to make their money regardless. I think Lil Nas X is a master troll. Absolutely. Again. I still hate the troll argument. No, this is a troll. No, this is a troll. This is real life.
Starting point is 01:14:41 This ain't troll. I hate the word troll because a lot of people misuse it. How can it? All right, let me, let me. How this ain't trolling I hate the word troll because a lot of people misuse it nowadays alright let me how can it be trolling if it's trolling then I'm not to believe his tweet the following day
Starting point is 01:14:52 that said yo man this backlash is really affecting how I feel it's having a heavy effect on my anxiety please stream my record
Starting point is 01:15:03 cause of course that's what I want you to do but the backlash is bothering me. He also tweeted. We don't know if that's true or not either, right? He also tweeted, I had nine months
Starting point is 01:15:10 to plan this rollout. You're not going to win, bro. Both can be true to me. Okay. Let's just be clear. You can have nine months to plan your rollout and be affected as an artist
Starting point is 01:15:22 by the backlash of your rollout. You didn't expect the backlash to be that bad. I think they both can be true true a lot of times the trolls don't expect the backlash to trolling don't tell me that you're not affected in how you feel and if you are that defeats the purpose of the troll when takashi trolls the deaths of many rappers that we love i think that stems from a very real place i think he feels something in his heart, which is why he's doing it. I don't think he's just doing it to get a reaction. No, you feel something.
Starting point is 01:15:50 That's why you're doing it. Enough of this passive aggression, passive aggressive everywhere. I don't think he feels anything. Niggas are feeling. You don't think that Tekashi69 feels anything? About what he's trolling on? No.
Starting point is 01:16:03 You think if the person really passed away, he wouldn't feel no type of way or he couldn't feel no type of way? Excuse me? If he's trolling somebody, a rapper, that he... Can you speak into the microphone, please? Seriously.
Starting point is 01:16:14 If he's trolling a rapper that he wishes dead, right? He's trolling rappers that are dead as well. But I'm just saying, if somebody really died, does he have... People have really died. An instance where he could feel bad about it? I don't think he feel bad. Like once shit hits the fan, like you could wish something, right? But once it really hits the fan, you're like, oh damn, I went a little too far.
Starting point is 01:16:38 I think that Tekashi constantly mentions Pop Smoke and King Von. May they both rest in peace. mentions Pop Smoke and King Von. May they both rest in peace. I mentioned both of their names because secretly, he feels a way about how loved they are from the people. He feels a way that these are two people
Starting point is 01:16:52 that allegedly really live their raps. I agree with that 100%. Two people that went out the way that they rapped. Right. And they both are beloved. I think there is a hatred that exists in him for that not personally toward those people okay i thought you meant he is not loved
Starting point is 01:17:11 yeah he is not loved he don't live those raps but he sees how adored those people are so when he says fuck king von fuck pop smoke or when he trolls the death of those two rappers he says a lot like that he says a lot like that 100% said he says a lot like that rest in piss king von like he's he's done that you know nipsey pass he went out to class he's doing he went out when von died he went out to uh to o'block class he has a security team take him there they stage a shoot where he runs in shoots and gets back in the car now some kids will say that's trolling joe doesn't say that i say that is coming from a real place you are acting out let's start calling things what they are you're acting out and you're looking for attention
Starting point is 01:17:58 based on something that exists inside of you okay so what is trolling then let me ask you that trolling is when you have no emotional investment in either which way of the matter you're saying something just just solely to incite reaction you're not married to whatever the reaction that comes i don't you don't care you're saying something that you don't even care about just to get people riled up that's what i understood trolling to be well this is a troll i've been called a troll and i disagree with that that's why ice has been called a troll based on my exact definition, though. About a bunch of shit that in real life he could
Starting point is 01:18:29 care less about. Okay. I think that's one specific That's my definition. I think that's one specific kind of troll. Right, right. That's what it is. Then what's the other one? Because I'm tired of niggas actually feeling something or calling trolling this passive aggressiveness. I think Lil Nas X did all this shit knowing that it was going to incite here's a cool definition trolling is defined as
Starting point is 01:18:50 creating discord on the internet by starting quarrels or upsetting people by posting inflammatory inflammatory or off-topic messages in an online community basically a social media troll is someone who purposely says something controversial in order to get a rise out of other users. By that definition, 6ix9ine is a troll. As is Lil Nas X. By that definition, 90% of the internet is a troll. Which is why I don't like this definition. 90% of you niggas are not that savvy that you're using the internet and just bouncing around on different ideas,
Starting point is 01:19:27 void of emotion on everything that's happening. No, you're not. Y'all are feeling things based off your internet consumption. You are being conditioned and programmed. And the things that you're reading, the people you interact with, your likes and dislikes, it's all being documented.
Starting point is 01:19:42 It's a big business here. And you niggas are fucking idiots to continue to jump up and say when you type something it's trolling trolling for you not for the internet okay are you using the internet or is the internet using you which side of defense do you stand on no takashi is not trolling i'm one of the people that believe his baby moms when she start talking about who he is inside yo dude just wants to be loved dude just wants attention and the second you don't give him these things that he never received
Starting point is 01:20:14 in life or in his household or in his upbringing he acts out and we just fall right for it if you leave him alone he will go away oh yeah that's what she said that's what she said I That's most trolls. That's what she said. I think most trolls are most trolls. Again, that basically, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:28 That scarred internally. But no, and that adds to trolling. They do it purposely to get a reaction. Correct. You just said if you don't respond, he's going to go away. Right. They're doing it for a purpose. But if I give you the reaction, Ish, you're trolling, I give you the reaction.
Starting point is 01:20:44 My reaction causes emotions in you. Indeed. Is it still trolling for you? Some level of satisfaction. I still say it's trolling. Got it. I still say it's trolling. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:52 That's just a byproduct of the trolling. I think all these niggas are soft. All these new niggas with this trolling shit that don't know how to deal with your emotions, don't know how to communicate, don't know how to talk. You're comfortable with your abandonment issues. You're comfortable with your one-parent household You're comfortable with your one parent household. You've never seen love, never seen marriage, never seen all of this shit. And you just on the Internet divulging shit.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Just running around with your very limited information base. Refusing to educate yourself. Refusing to be well versed. I'm not just going to call it trolling. You niggas is sick. You niggas is fucking sickos out here. And if you have emotions about some shit you see on the internet then you need to do real life things to deal with them
Starting point is 01:21:27 not just say ha ha ha I caused a reaction out of you okay true but what you doing with the reaction in you what you doing with those things so you think that Lil Nas X is savvy or a troll I think that Lil Nas X is both savvy and a troll
Starting point is 01:21:44 I think that Tekashi is both savvy and a troll. I think that Tekashi is both savvy and a troll. I almost think you can't have one without the other. For me, you got to be able to compartmentalize. If Tekashi or Lil Nas X said something about something that they didn't care about, something that their business didn't waver one way or the other, and something that didn't affect them at all their family at all and they just said some shit and left the phone i do that sometimes i'll say some shit that i don't care about at all and just leave the phone you niggas argue about it it's not affecting me one
Starting point is 01:22:12 way or the other cool if i'm bothered if i'm affected it's not trolling it's an exchange now it's transactional we are trading something for something and that something weighs in me well tell me what they get some level of satisfaction that you created this response same thing with cancel culture
Starting point is 01:22:38 wait wait wait I don't want to stay on this either but I agree with Ish I agree the trolls. I agree. The trolls get something. You created this from nothing. And I'm saying the feeling that pre-exists that. The feeling that you have to have to want to do that.
Starting point is 01:22:59 To want to do that. Yeah. It stems from a real place. It's not just you woke up one day and decided to drop this bomb on the world. Well, I'll be honest with you. I've trolled. I have trolled in the past. You said you don't like Premier Beats.
Starting point is 01:23:12 That's not a troll. No, that's his opinion. Right. That's not him trolling. See, that's where I get pissed off at because an unpopular opinion is not trolling. Just because I disagree with the masses, I'm my own person.
Starting point is 01:23:23 I don't have to like Premier Beats today. That's my thing. I can my own person. I don't have to like premier beats. Today. That's my thing. I can change what I like and don't like. I don't want to say what it is. No, you don't. You don't have to like them
Starting point is 01:23:31 but you're stupid. See, stuff like that, I look at as trolling. Because you don't believe it's possible for somebody to not like. No, because I think his beats, just using this as an example,
Starting point is 01:23:40 I think that his beats are not all similar. Right? I think they go all over the place. Right? He could have a beat that sounds one way. you can have a total beat that sounds a totally different way for you to say i don't like premier beats i said i don't like majority of premier beats does premier have a sound a signature sound yes or no of course he does yeah but again he's like
Starting point is 01:24:00 that sound okay i can say i don't like the premiere sound meaning I don't like majority of premieres beats yes he can go I'ma like it if premiere slapped shit out of you and that's not a knock on him I don't like it today
Starting point is 01:24:14 there's shit I've liked in the 90s that I don't like today I don't need to hear two 50 year olds tell me about premiere beats and trolling you niggas is 50
Starting point is 01:24:24 hip hop is y'all alright alright let's be clear two 50 year olds tell me about premiere beats and trolling. You niggas is 50. Hip hop is y'all. I'm 30 by the way. All right, let's be clear. Got it. 30, 50. Got it, got it, got it. Lil Nas X,
Starting point is 01:24:33 so the lawsuit is happening. I'm assuming that these sneakers won't be resold. I mean re-upped on. Shit, they're going to be extra resold. No, the value is up.
Starting point is 01:24:42 The value is up. And they only did 666 pairs. Yeah. That's what it's worth. Yeah, they're sold out. Miley Cyrus. Oh value is up. The value is up. And they only did 666 pairs. Yeah. Yeah, they sold out. Miley Cyrus. Oh, shut up. Shut up.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Put a pair out. Shut up. Anybody that ever tells me that, shut up. What? Unless you work in the warehouse. Unless you work in the warehouse. We know the truth. Don't tell me that they only made such and such amount of pairs.
Starting point is 01:25:01 That's a marketing thing. Of course. We know that. Yeah. Limited edition means it creates demand.. Of course. We know that. Yeah. Limited edition means it creates demand. Yeah, but now I watch that ideology go from street wear
Starting point is 01:25:13 to high-end wear to now luxury vehicles. Cars, everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On the way here, we were just talking about the Maybach truck. Albums.
Starting point is 01:25:22 The Maybach truck. People do limited edition vinyls and tapes. That's fine. That's fine. Let me tell you something. And in that, I didn't believe some of that because vinyl is expensive to make. Anything that's rare. You probably only pressed up a certain amount.
Starting point is 01:25:34 It goes different there. The Maybach truck, though. I'm going to come back to that. They are running around saying that it's only this many available for the year. So they're raising the sticker price upwards of eighty thousand dollars the base fee is 160 grand this truck is being sold for 260 280 240 and up so now we're dealing with that even in vehicles so i have to have a problem with this fake hey we only made this amount such and such shut up go make more
Starting point is 01:26:08 no go make more hey you see the demand is up you see we want it go make more no alright but that no ain't gonna make it now be 10x the value and I'm not for Joe not for you
Starting point is 01:26:23 I was about to say it it's been that way. I was about to say, but for that rapper that wants to say, or not necessarily rapper, but that person that wants to say, I got one of, Birdman used to do it. Dog, that's been that way. Yo, it's only three Bugattis. Yeah. I got two of them. It ain't going right here.
Starting point is 01:26:39 The Hudson in my hood would spend 50 grand over ticket price to be the first nigga in the hood with an SL. How much you think you're going to pay for the fake vaccination card? I don't know. I got it, though. A penny. I got it, though. A nice penny. I got it. Look, you're going to infect the whole human nation. Mine's going to be real. Because you got it, right? Mine's going to be real.
Starting point is 01:26:55 I'm going to be the official laminated. For real. Cuomo signature. Big Vax. I don't need it. I don't need it. So a bunch of people replied to Lil Nas X and was mad. Waka Flocka was one of them. Joyner Lucas was one of them. And he was like, yo, main thing is our kids listen to you.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Our kids love Old Town Road. You say that that's not the record you're working right now, but our kids love it. To which Lil Nas X replied yo I'm literally talking about sipping lean and adultery and old town road if you let your kids listen to that that's your choice as two of you guys with kids not parks you'll soon join this club where do y'all stand on that I agree 100% with with with um what Lil Nas X is saying you have to have some you have to have some type of responsibility. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:46 You got to monitor. Like, you can't just let the internet and everything raise your kids. You have to know what your kids are watching and listening to, to the best of your ability. Is it? I think today in music. Old Town Road is catchy.
Starting point is 01:28:00 No, again, I was about to say, look, everybody knows Old Town Road. So is Hit Em Up. No. No. Not like that. Not like that no not like today's music right and today's music and this is why i really don't but not like we're talking about i know today's music in my opinion right my daughter won't be a park fan go ahead music is you're not a park fan exactly music is more melodies right it's more melodic it's more trendy it's catchy right so you can know a song and love a song and not know one lyric or not know what they're talking about in the song that's my point so that's why i don't really
Starting point is 01:28:35 dive into you know the smashes are our chorus yeah yeah exactly chorus beat so i don't like says that because the chorus of this is i want to take my horse to the old town road i want to ride until i can't know that's the end that's what people know that's all my kids don't care about what you're saying in the verses you need to do i got the horses in my lab but i don't know what nobody knows what he's saying who knows and again i don't know the third verse to pump it up that you don't come on the club second verse don't come on no more either yeah I don't know the third verse of Pump It Up. That shit don't come on in the club. Second verse don't come on no more either. Yeah, but don't do that.
Starting point is 01:29:08 My bad. There was a time when it came on. I'm just saying. There was a time. What you want, punk, double clip, punk, drop, bop. I get it, but I'm just saying. Now they give you the hook and... But we wasn't talking about that. There's been a million songs in the history of music, though,
Starting point is 01:29:20 that have been innuendo or blatantly flagrant. Pump It Up will not die. Pump It Up is the song that will never die. Nah. You better be happy. You better be happy. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:29:31 I better be happy. I just said to my mom, only my mom collects the royalty statements and checks from the song, right? And she knows when the mail comes.
Starting point is 01:29:39 She knows when that check comes. So it came the other day, she sends me a picture and I say, man, 20 years later, I still get a little bum ass piece of chump change from this record. It's like four thousand, five thousand quarterly. But check this out. So that boils down to maybe 20 grand a year.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Some people say that's not much. When you get into the splits of the record. Man, what is that record doing right now like i only own if you get maybe four four percent of it was a sample it was mad producers it's only maybe this percentage that's getting me 20 grand jay kwan better not never say my name i don't know what tipsy is doing today i don't know what Tipsy is doing today. I don't know what Mims is doing today. My shit's still 20 years later. Think about that.
Starting point is 01:30:29 I was 21 years old. My kid will be 21 in two years, a year and a half. When's my kid's birthday? A year and a half. Imagine that. Forget it, man. So why did Jaquan and Mims got to do it? That's why we had a big song out at the same time.
Starting point is 01:30:44 They did. Or somewhere in the vicinity. With those samples. I don't think either of them went out the way. Listen, when J. Quan put out Tipsy, everybody at Def Jam was looking at me like, bum. You bum ass. You a loser.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Hey, where's your record? Hey, you want me to put you in the studio with the producers of Tipsy? I said, yeah, they put me in. I ain't come out with no heat. No heat. Well, I mean, Tipsy was just grinding remixed. Hold up, man. Savon wants to get a good laugh out of that.
Starting point is 01:31:10 You think that's funny that they put me in the studio with the Tipsy producers and everybody was sober? Yeah, I didn't come up with no heat. And paid their price. Like when a producer group catch the smash
Starting point is 01:31:28 and you want to try to catch that smash, paid the 75 grand, whatever it was, for a dud. I didn't put it out. Nothing happened. I wasn't Jaquan. I didn't have the Atlanta accent.
Starting point is 01:31:39 It just didn't work. Anyway, enough about me and Jaquan and Mims. For real, they was looking at hotel tipsy. Well, Cass battling, so, you know. Hotel, he don't need that. Hotel was a monster. That Cass and Mitch, it was hilarious,
Starting point is 01:31:57 but we ain't got time to talk about that. We don't have time to talk about that no more. What else is important that we need to unpack culturally? Let's see, let's see, let's see. is important that we need to unpack culturally. Let's see, let's see, let's see. Sexiest ball man ever isn't me.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Prince Williams is the sexiest ball man alive, according to white people. And The Rock is ranked like number nine on here. Mike Tyson and Jason Statham. The fact that white people think Jason Statham is sexy is funny to me,
Starting point is 01:32:28 but white people sexy is different from black people sexy. Jason Statham, come on, man. He's not the sexy man. Jason Statham, the third sexiest bald man in the world? No. With the rock number nine? Who's sexy to you? Wait, who is on the list?
Starting point is 01:32:43 Hold up, here we go. Top ten's the list. Hold up, scroll it. Here we go. Top 10 sexy bald men. Number one, Prince William. Number two, Mike Tyson. Wait, stop right there. Look at the gap. By a nine million vote difference.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Yo, that Prince shit holds some weight. Jason Statham, number three at 7.4 million. Four is Pitbull. Five is Michael Jordan. Six is Floyd Mayweather, who grows hair, wears his hair. I don't even understand his placement here. John Travolta, who I've never even seen bald. I didn't even know he was bald.
Starting point is 01:33:13 He got plugs. He got bad plugs. I didn't know he was bald. Remember in the OJ doc? He's not bald. His plugs look old. He's got to go. I'm sexier than him.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Bruce Willis, bald. He's an icon. He should be there. The Rocket, number nine. Vin Diesel, number ten. I've been in Tyrese's yard with Vin Diesel telling me how much sexier he was than me. I won't argue that.
Starting point is 01:33:34 Pitbull, my nigga. That's Mr. Worldwide, man. Let me tell you who I'm talking about. Let me tell you who Joe is. We'll tell you who Joe is sexier than. Jason Statham, Pitbull, John Travolta. All of them are way richer than me.
Starting point is 01:33:52 I'm not sexier than anybody on this list. That's what it comes down to? Because that's what it comes down to. Excuse me. Excuse me. Wait, wait, wait. Excuse me. What did you say?
Starting point is 01:34:03 Sex appeal comes down to money? Ish. I was asking. Answer it. You know That's wild. The bill comes down to money. Ish. I was asking. Answer it. You know what time it is. Answer it. Answer it for the people. You know the vibes, ish.
Starting point is 01:34:10 The Prince is a Prince at number one. Number one is a Prince. There's a reason why he's- And not Prince. With 17.6 million. Okay. Number two is Tyson. If y'all say so, all right.
Starting point is 01:34:21 It's not if y'all say so. The list says so. Like, it's right there the rock has more money than jason statham or i mean michael jordan michael jordan has more money than mike tyson this entire list has more money than me i recant any argument i recant any argument that I had to make. Here we go. Peloton, Peloton and Versus unveil a partnership. Peloton. All right, let's just read this.
Starting point is 01:34:53 This is coming from Variety. Of course, I love Variety. There's no question that the Versus musical battles, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Shut up. Here we go. Peloton Versus announced today is an equally savvy matchup. Peloton versus announced today is an equally savvy matchup. One that sees the versus battles and,
Starting point is 01:35:07 uh, powering users of Peloton's popular fitness regimen. According to the announcement, the partnership is like nothing that Peloton has ever done before. Of course, y'all always need to see hip hop, hip hop work first before you indulge, uh, and we'll come to life during Peloton's motivational classes
Starting point is 01:35:25 taught by its best-in-class instructors available via the Peloton bike, tread, or app, which offers a 30-day free trial to new members.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Timbaland says, I don't care what he says. Swiss Beats agrees. I knew that. Who cares? Peloton's head of music, Gwen Bethel, concurs some you probably said the same shit as them i don't need to read i don't need to read any of this now with that said
Starting point is 01:35:51 how do you gentlemen feel about versus branching out and this is what i mean before you speak versus had a deal with apple correct that deal concluded and seemingly a day or two after they announced their Triller deal. Not even a month after that deal. We have a Peloton announcement. We've already seen a versus NFL announcement. We are seeing versus branch out in many different arenas, many different areas, and they've sold it,
Starting point is 01:36:30 if I remember correctly. They've sold to Triller. Triller. And then they went on the board of Triller. So they are participating in their asset. They've sold it, and they're branching out business-wise and putting it everywhere they could put it. I think it's really good business. That's swag. could put it. I think it's really good business.
Starting point is 01:36:46 That's swag. It's dope. I think it's really good business. What's to dislike here? Super dope. Yeah. Peloton's big business. A lot of people.
Starting point is 01:36:53 I don't want to come off as the hater. You're a hater. No, I hate. All right. Get the hate off. Don't hate. Hate at home. Okay.
Starting point is 01:37:00 No, you can't hate. No, no, no. I'm inviting you to hate my baseball team. I just don't get it. Maybe it's not for me to get. Because you're fat, nigga. you ain't got no Peloton I have a Peloton so what is versus Peloton
Starting point is 01:37:10 they're gonna put the versus matches on the bike cause I'm reading here it says Brandy versus Monica run with Rebecca Kennedy on 329 and 17 we saw the Brandy versus Monica yeah but you ain't never run to it you've never seen it on the Peloton bike.
Starting point is 01:37:26 But the Peloton bike has internet, correct? You have one, right? I have one. Yeah, but there's like an instructor class thing. It's an instructor on a television set in front of you and they're running music and at the same time So they're just going to play the music in the background of the battle? I don't know how it's going to be structured, but
Starting point is 01:37:41 they're going to play whatever the battle is. Alright, congrats to them, man. Anytime I see brothers making moves and making money, I'm going to congrats them even though it look like they hoeing versus out. What are they supposed to do? I just congratulated them.
Starting point is 01:37:53 Get your money. Yeah, but to answer this question, what should they do? If it's their business. They were hoeing it out to Apple. Hey, it's their business.
Starting point is 01:38:00 They sold it and now they're conducting business. Whoever they sold it to is taking it to another plateau. Salute. Oh, okay. I'm not hating. I'm hating.
Starting point is 01:38:12 Sounds a little hateful. Yeah, you are. Don't you say, hold it. It sounds a little hateful. Okay, well, you trolling. Listen, if they were to secure a deal, if you want to get on a United flight in first class and on the TV along with the movie. Joe, I'm broke.
Starting point is 01:38:30 I don't do first class. But go ahead, though. If you continue to fill in this seat, you will not be broke. Now, at that point, if you want to leave the money, you can. That will be a conscious decision. I like money. But you will not be broke if you sit here just a little longer. Listen to this.
Starting point is 01:38:46 If on the first class shit, where they show you TV, movies, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. If Versus is there, that means Triller or someone broke it, broke it a deal. That was a good one. Yeah, that is good. And they put it there. And if I'm Swiss or Timbaland or Triller, I would want to do that. And if I could do that in 10 different places to 10X, not just for me, but for the company we invest in and for all the artists that have stake in this.
Starting point is 01:39:17 That's true. See, I needed a little bit more perspective on that. Wouldn't we do it? I think they're killing this shit. Yeah, that is very smart if you put it that way. That was a good one. Well, if you want to sell. Only if you want to sell.
Starting point is 01:39:27 Like some people, like I used to say, maybe you don't want to sell, so you're not whoring it out. I'm keeping it. Limited edition. I'm keeping it. That's what Joe says. Hey, I'm not selling the podcast. No way. I'm holding this.
Starting point is 01:39:36 You want to license it? Let's talk. But I'm not selling this anywhere. I'm not whoring it out. I'm guarding this. They taking this wherever makes sense for them. That's smart. And they're already rich.
Starting point is 01:39:47 I'm about to say, they're making a lot of money in the process. They're already rich. And making their people a lot of money. Yeah, it's true. There's no way for me to hate on this. I don't want to come off as hating. If I'm riding a bike
Starting point is 01:39:58 and I see the Versus series pop up there and I can watch some shit while I'm on my treadmill or whatever, that's ill. You can hear Premiere and RZA beats. Go at it. I have a relationship with DJ Premiere. I like Premiere beats.
Starting point is 01:40:12 He's trolling the troll. I like them too. Prem listens to our pod. And he likes ice. Look at that. You should be ashamed of yourself. You should be ashamed of yourself. I can't help it if I don't want to hear it today. That's all.
Starting point is 01:40:26 But no, if I... You like Prime? Next question. Next question. Okay. Listen, we are back from a brief commercial break. We are. We back.
Starting point is 01:40:48 And... This guy, man. This guy, yeah. Joe, you funny, man. It's hard to say, man. That's it. What were you guys arguing about? Joe's driving ability?
Starting point is 01:40:59 He think he could drive better than me? No, we weren't. Why do Jersey people get so competitive with driving? Because that's what we do. New Yorkers can't drive, so you already know y'all ain't driving. New Yorkers don't even have cars to drive or licenses. Why y'all think it's a NASCAR race? Why do you think we have to speak to you about it as a train user?
Starting point is 01:41:16 You're a train guy, right? You're one of those New Yorkers. Oh, take the train. You started driving a year ago. That's not true. Two years ago. Twelve years ago? I don't know how long it's been.
Starting point is 01:41:27 No, no, no. At one point I drove way more than you. Stop it. You ain't 20 years. Stop it. Stop it. You just got your car. I grew up in upstate New York. This is the problem with podcasting. I grew up in upstate New York. We drove a lot. The problem with podcasting
Starting point is 01:41:44 is everybody is not qualified to speak on the things that they speak on. I'm 37. 40 years old. I'm 37. Same shit. Telling us about his upbringing in Buffalo somewhere. And we talking about driving in New York City as an adult with a car finding parking fighting with niggas over the parking
Starting point is 01:42:07 road rate not paying the toll that's the driving we talking about you have not experienced that because you've had the luxury of I'll take the train like most New Yorkers so to answer your question
Starting point is 01:42:22 but to answer your question that's why New Jersey people feel like that. Because it's driver's privilege. Right. Because we don't get to train, bus. We don't get none of that. We could. None of the path. We also have niggas to fill up our gas when we pull up.
Starting point is 01:42:35 Right. In two degree weather. Yeah. Because we got a room. Fill that up. Fill that up. Fill that up. No, I don't want to be in that car so bad.
Starting point is 01:42:43 We got things to do, buddy. We ain't got time to be pumping no gas. And this is fucked up. The rest of the world is hearing us right now. The rest of the world is hearing us. Sucks to be them. Hey, sorry. Sucks to be them.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Yeah, I ain't going to hold you, man. Y'all drop the gas. You niggas is trash. Yeah, that ain't our fault. Y'all got to pull up to the gas station and get out to buy a Snickers with some gas. Hey, y'all get a little... While I'm here, I might as well get some chips. On that topic, let me ask you a question
Starting point is 01:43:11 because somebody asked me and I laughed. Do you tip the gas? Do you? Do I tip them what? I tip them some good information that can stick with them throughout life.
Starting point is 01:43:27 Are you supposed to tip the gas station? I know people that do. People that do are out of towners. Nah, I do know people that do. Let me shoot one back. Do you tip the valet guy? Yeah. That look like it's a foul. I'm tipping the valet guy and not the gas station guy.
Starting point is 01:43:43 Because he get in my car. Let me tell you how foul I am at the gas station. When I get to the gas station, I give him my card. I say, give it right back. Don't hold it. Go ahead and put it in. And give it back. I'm going in the store.
Starting point is 01:43:58 You're not just going to hold my fucking card and run my shit. I've gotten times where I got out. That's that New York shit. I've got out and gave him the card at the pump let him put alright then I go get back in the car
Starting point is 01:44:07 and you still gotta pump the gas so I do that but not that why though nigga nah nah you can get out the car
Starting point is 01:44:15 cause I get gas in the hood I know how it go how it go they swipe your information you're from Irvington you are from Irvington New Jersey
Starting point is 01:44:24 you are from East Orangeton, New Jersey. You are from East Orange, even worse. Yeah, don't say no fucking Irvington. You from a bad place in the world, nigga. You know why. No, I don't though.
Starting point is 01:44:33 All right, all right. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm serious. Back to my story. They do that shit more in the birds than in the hood. I give them my card. I take it back.
Starting point is 01:44:41 Uh-uh, papa. Give it right back. I go in the store. I get my little coffee, my chips and stuff. You see, papa almost got us murdered. You papa. Uh-uh, papa. Give it back. Papa. Hey, I get up to the desk.
Starting point is 01:44:54 I bring my little shit up. The machine come up, start talking to me. Yo, you want to thank the troops, nigga? No. I don't want to thank the troops. And I want my change back in my pay cash. Hey, yo, you got some money for the cancer? Nigga, I don't want to thank the troops and I want my change back you got some money for the cancer I don't have money for none of these niggas they got the little jar right there
Starting point is 01:45:10 give me that back I don't trust that money's going to whatever they say me neither I think that's a lie let's go to Exxon our money ain't going to the fucking troops into cancer research I've been here 40 years there's no cure for cancer but it's a vaccine for
Starting point is 01:45:25 motherfucking COVID. In six months. Ta-da. And I'm going to have it in two days. I'll take it. I don't care what you niggas say. When your fingers start falling off, don't say nothing, nigga. I'm going to go get my class action lawsuit.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Do I have the real vax card? I ain't going to say nothing. As long as my card is real. You don't come around me with your little scam and East Orange tricks. Don't come around me with your cards. Nigga spreading COVID all over the earth with his fake cards. Building houses. Building COVID houses. Save the house that COVID built?
Starting point is 01:46:04 Yeah, yeah. I'm cool. I'm cool on him. Fam, say what you wish. What is this? Breaking news. I am Steve Harvey. We'll be hosting Versus this Sunday
Starting point is 01:46:12 with Isley Brothers and Earth, Wind & Fire. I'm with that. I like that. I love that. That's kind of dope. Will Lori be there? No. Why do y'all be on her dick so much?
Starting point is 01:46:23 I don't like her. I'm good. he hit her with the you are a diva you are a diva don't put me into it I want to address your shit she's not your type
Starting point is 01:46:40 well further she's a baby so I'm not gonna try to like her since when how old is she She's not your type. Well, further, she's a baby. So I'm not going to try to like her. Since when? How old is she? Fuck you moving around for it.
Starting point is 01:46:52 Fuck Erickson. Erickson all of a sudden is fidgety. How old is Lori Harvey? Joe-able. How old is Lori Harvey? Nigga, she in your age range. Someone just say that. Still don't answer me.
Starting point is 01:47:06 It don't matter. I know. Hey, Joe, my type is the thick chicks and the skinny chicks, right? 24. She's 24. Right? My type is the 32-year-olds and the 24-year-olds. Look, y'all just say anything when it come to me.
Starting point is 01:47:19 No, but we know that's your type, though. I wouldn't touch Lori Harvey. She ain't 24. She 20 Joe. I'm not. You got a lot of little, you know what I mean? Little lows. You my man. No, I ain't no. She 20 Joe. I'm not. You got a lot of little, you know what I mean? A little low. You my man. No, I know.
Starting point is 01:47:28 You my man. I'm not fucking nothing that's 24 today. Sorry. I know. It ruins the joke. It steps on things. It's not fun. Okay.
Starting point is 01:47:36 Joe's not fucking nothing that's 24 today. Okay. I got to leave it. I got to say okay. What you going to say? You can't say nothing. I can say okay. I can show you the 25-year-old that I might fuck.
Starting point is 01:47:47 Then you would understand. She don't look like Lori Harvey. If I found someone that was 25 that I would be into. So Steve Harvey's going to die. He's going to kill this. Yeah, he's going to kill this. This is his land right here. He's going to be good here.
Starting point is 01:48:02 I'm not meeting none of you chicks in your fucking 30s that I can't mold. You better get one. You better get one. All right. So we here now. All right, we here. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, hell no.
Starting point is 01:48:15 We here now. We here now. It's a joke. Nope. It's a joke. It's some truth behind any joke, Demi. I don't even have the energy to mold a chick today. But this is my question because you're not even allowed to say this publicly.
Starting point is 01:48:24 So recant that from the record. Flag it. Edit it. Cancel me. Do what you must. We're not flagging and editing but cancel me if you must. This is my question.
Starting point is 01:48:34 How come women are able to say that they like a man that they are able to mold but if a man says that then it's an issue? Well one
Starting point is 01:48:44 I know why men can't say that but why can women say it i don't even see women saying that no more they're saying the opposite no women are saying the opposite women are now saying we're not molding niggas no more i ain't dating on potential i'm not yeah i'm not i'm not dealing with these childish ass niggas no more find you somebody who got his shit together know what he's doing and i don't have to i don't have to raise you i'm not your mother i mean they say that but then you see the niggas they date. Well, women lie. Women also say they're not fucking with broke
Starting point is 01:49:09 niggas, and, you know. That's a fucking myth. That is a myth. We really want to get into it. It's all a myth. But that... Well, why do they keep lying? To themselves. It sounds good. It makes them feel better.
Starting point is 01:49:24 I don't care. I'm not trying to fuck none of them. Yeah, you don't keep lying? To themselves. It sounds good. It makes them feel good. I don't care. You don't give a fuck what they think. I'm not trying to fuck none of them. Yeah, you don't care. Nor am I. Nor am I. All the chicks mad over my Valentine's Day. All right.
Starting point is 01:49:34 All right, bitch. That's what I be trying to tell chicks. Hey, by the time dude made the decision to publicly show something, he is committed to deading you. Right. He don't deading you. Right. He don't care if you find out. He don't give a fuck about your opinions on the matter
Starting point is 01:49:49 your thoughts. Oh it was foul shady. Oh I didn't know I just spoke to him. No. I don't think that's their stance though. That's our stance though.
Starting point is 01:49:59 I think their stance is yo we was together seven years and you ain't never drop a rose on the ground for me nigga. You not her. Now go sit in a closet alone and repeat that to yourself 90 times because you right no no i didn't drop a rose on you but i dropped it on her in a week hey hey it didn't take long hey clearly I'm not against
Starting point is 01:50:26 dropping that for somebody. So you might need to figure out what it is about you that you didn't get that from me. There we go. That is true. It's inner reflection.
Starting point is 01:50:34 But they don't look at that. That's not, is that our fault? Yeah. Is that our problem? They're not reflecting on their inner issues. No,
Starting point is 01:50:40 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:50:41 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:50:42 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:50:42 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:50:43 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:50:44 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:50:44 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, anytime we say some shit we can get in trouble for i'm gonna play rory and i'm dropping yes that's the thing about podcasting man some of this stuff that's why i don't like we talk about over monopoly you can't just say right here to me you know how many people listen to this shit? A lot. Who would disagree, though? This is the winner. Let's move on.
Starting point is 01:51:08 No, no, I'm not doing it. CTE co-founder Kinky B. It's argumentative. That's why he's great for a pod, but he's bad for a pod. It's cool. And Ish can't be here with us Friday for whatever the reason be. I'm going to miss him. I'm going to miss him.
Starting point is 01:51:24 Listen, CTE co-founder Kinky B says Jeezy lost air quotes all his street credibility after verses. Ice just hit me to this, so please inform me. Kinky B is Jeezy's old manager. Do you want me to play the snippet here? Please play the snippet and then Ice can tell me what's going on.
Starting point is 01:51:40 The United States of America any street nigga lost all respect for that man that day he lost all his street credibility that day due to the fact that i don't give a when a lose their life man ain't no ain't no peacing up my never be peace money never ever Peace, my nigga. Never, ever. Okay.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Like I said, Kinky B is the CTE co-founder along with Jeezy. Okay. I do believe he was also his old manager from when he first started years ago. And I disagree with his statement. I mean, if I'm Jeezy, I don't really give a... Who cares? I'm not a street nigga no more. I'm not... That's where you fuck up at.
Starting point is 01:52:29 Once you make that transition, you're worrying about what the streets do. You can't play both sides. You can't be a street nigga and not be a street nigga. You have to pick. And that's where a lot of people get themselves tied up at, worrying about the streets. You are a corporate person now. I'm with Ice on this streets you are a corporate person now i'm with ice on this you are a corporate business there's a lot of people depending on jeezy there's a lot of
Starting point is 01:52:50 people that he's feeding i disagree worrying about the streets will cause all that to fall let me hear this he doesn't have to engage in street shit right right? But the moral compass that was instilled in you, the values, the principles, the morals that you learned living that life, they follow you throughout the course of your life. Like, for example,
Starting point is 01:53:16 if you were raised to say snitching or ratting is whack, you don't get $20 million, $50 million, $100 million and then say nah ratting is cool again your principles and your moral code and ethics why not why don't you i'm asking because again to you your views can change right yeah no no you can change you can change you can change so way of life can change everything about you can change right i'm sorry but go ahead all right but your principles or your moral ethics don't change it's like you're trying not to talk
Starting point is 01:53:50 into my i'm not gonna move the mic to your mouth because pause yeah all right so look that's not anyway right so again the money that the money that you don't your morals or your principles shouldn't necessarily change you talk you don't do nothing else but talk
Starting point is 01:54:15 you just talk predicated on money whoa look at that you sound great this guy is nuts yo your morals or your ethics or your values shouldn't necessarily change because um of a money situation like in this instance he didn't lose money by not doing his verses under these circumstances I'm talking about just this he didn't lose money by not doing his verses so again if you were I could make the case that he did make Make it then. I want to hear that.
Starting point is 01:54:46 He dropped an album that night. Jeezy's Ice Cold in the Streets. And I'm the biggest Jeezy fan on the planet. You are. Jeezy is 100% ice cold in the streets, musically. I like that album. I love that album. I bought that album. I was actually.
Starting point is 01:54:58 And I'm not sure I would have known that album dropped if not for this night. That's my point. Not doing that. So it wasn't sincere. He did it for a rollout. Everything's a rollout. I've been saying this forever. Everything's a roll. Not doing that person. So it wasn't sincere. He did it for a rollout. Everything's a rollout. I've been saying this forever. Everything's a rollout.
Starting point is 01:55:08 Well, what's wrong with that? Nothing. But if I could use a rollout and make a positive out of it. I don't see why he's just saying we can't hear Corey. What, what, what? All right, it's a rollout.
Starting point is 01:55:19 No, he said. I'm dropping an album. Yeah, I'm saying. So him using this, him dropping this album as a rollout, we might not have known this album was coming out had he not done his verses. So yeah, he could have lost money not doing his verses.
Starting point is 01:55:33 Okay, I understand that, Poy. He could have taken another route to release his album. He released a bunch of other albums. And nothing happened. And nothing happened. Nothing's been happening. So what do I do? I'm going to go get the one thing
Starting point is 01:55:47 that you never thought you'd see in this lifetime. So he's a troll. That's not a troll. There's real feeling behind that. See, we back to what do you know. See, what do you know? There's real feeling behind that. You said that that don't stop it from being a troll,
Starting point is 01:55:59 even if there is real feeling behind it. No, I'm saying the feeling prior to that. I agree with your point. I said, yo, he could have rolled his album out another way. But he rolled out the last three albums
Starting point is 01:56:11 and nothing happened. All right. This is a business decision on both their parts, not just Jeezy. Be clear. I'm not even... This is a business decision
Starting point is 01:56:18 on Gucci's part too. But we're not talking about Gucci, man. You're talking about a comment made by his boy that both used to rip and run... His ex-boy. Because that matters. They used to rip and run the streets together right so again whatever you did in the streets it's behind him cool god bless fortunately he made it out of a situation that many don't make
Starting point is 01:56:36 it out of right but again the same morals and values that were instilled in you and embedded in you they should still be who you are. All right, I'm going to also say about this particular situation here, something that a lot of people have been hinting at, but no one ever just came out and said. We don't know for sure that was his man's. And I'm not trying to disrespect anybody. We don't know that.
Starting point is 01:57:01 This is an artist on my label. I make a statement saying yo i got ten thousand dollars for this dude's chain and he go try to get it i didn't send you but out of respect for you i'm not gonna address that which is why jesus never said a word about this so how do you know or not we don't know we don't know we don't know i'm not sure that jesus was ever trying to win the streets battle and taking his versus against Gucci Mane. At all. I think he was well aware that that's a battle he would lose, right?
Starting point is 01:57:29 The battle of the streets. He's lost the streets already prior to his versus. Now, even if he would have won that when BMF was out and when his classics was out, cool. But today, nah. This was a legacy battle on Jeezy's behalf, playing all of those commercial hits. Monster hits. Yeah. It's not about who's behalf, playing all of those commercial hits. Monster hits. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:45 Right. It's not about who's the streetest, who's the toughest. And for this Jeezy. But for his man to say that. X-Man that we fell out with. That matters, bro. It does. That matters.
Starting point is 01:57:56 I don't know how tight these two are today. No, no, I agree. That does matter. But again, for one street nigga to another street nigga to say, yo, you basically are. A fraud. No, you're just basically. Sellout. You hurt yourself.
Starting point is 01:58:12 Throwing everything that you learned in your upbringing away for a rollout. See, but that's on the surface. Let me let me let me let me add in. I don't agree with the stance just on my take on forgiveness as a whole. Like, forgiveness is something that you do so that you don't have to live with something. It's not something that's necessarily for the other person. Indeed. So, this gentleman, Kinky B, Kinky B's take is somebody died. There's no forgiveness. Well, Joe's take is, and this is none of my business, that's exactly the time that forgiveness should occur.
Starting point is 01:58:51 Life has been lost. There might be survivor's guilt. Like, I don't know what's going on there. But Joe's higher power is a forgiving higher power and i know it takes a lot of maturity to get into that instance where an action you cause caused the life of death and it's still time to forgive or somebody killed someone that is close to you and that you love so it's time to forgive that's a lot to ask someone that's a lot but look now granted you're more entitled to feel that way and that's not wrong but do i do it publicly in a versus situation I don't think this was the first time that these gentlemen
Starting point is 01:59:26 have spoken to each other been around each other I know for a fact they ran into each other at a restaurant prior to this and they spoke on the phone prior to this they would have had to you can't just publicly pop up with all this going on no they had to talk at some point I don't know a lot of niggas killed Jeezy
Starting point is 01:59:42 for doing it I'm not going to be one of those people I didn't kill him I'm just saying of niggas killed Jeezy for doing it. I'm not going to be one of those people. I didn't kill him. I'm just saying my man, what's his name? Kinky B. Kinky B. Kinky B has, from his street perspective,
Starting point is 01:59:56 he has some valid points. But if I'm Jeezy, and I'm not trying to shit on the streets, please. I'm still, you know, everybody in the streets that watch this, I'm not shitting on y'all. If I'm Jeezyzy do I give a fuck
Starting point is 02:00:06 what the streets think right now yes no no you don't that's not true you do not give a fuck I'm married to Anna Mae
Starting point is 02:00:13 I mean I hope I'm not Ginny Mae I'm sorry I'm married to Ginny Mae I wasn't trying to be funny no no no he does care he does care
Starting point is 02:00:21 it's a different it's a contradiction that he don't care huh bro if I'm not the contradiction That he don't care Huh Bro if I'm not the same The contradiction of I don't give a fuck About the streets anymore
Starting point is 02:00:28 Means that Why would you plan this For your rollout What street about this His whole content And his music Is street music So if he ain't
Starting point is 02:00:37 Have you listened To his current album He's not talking street shit In the album That's the point I'm not that cheesy That I used to be He said that shit
Starting point is 02:00:44 I could show up And play my old songs Yeah like I said He to be i could show up and play my old songs yeah i like i said he said it i could show up my old songs and not subscribe to that old way of thinking today i agree these are old classics this is what the people wanted no no no i'm taking i well this is where i i'm gonna bow out because i didn't hear his new album right so if his new album is the typical Jeezy shit that he's been... It's not.
Starting point is 02:01:07 It's not. It's not. It's grown. It's mature. That's where I'm going I'm off the street shit. I'm married. Jail's death.
Starting point is 02:01:15 This is what it brings you. Y'all used to live this but now I'm living this. He tried to make his version of 444. Cool. Okay. Without the...
Starting point is 02:01:22 Okay. But it was soul samples. I feel you. Again, if he was still talking the same old look the album cover with the beret yeah like and he got killed for that see what he's like like you got killed this is the candy with the spokes I feel him I'm just saying that uh uh if if he was talking that same old then you He got Demi Lovato on his album. And that record actually went. I was very shocked.
Starting point is 02:01:49 That's one of my favorites on that album. I did not expect that at all. I was like, oh shit, this is hard. On this podcast, we don't need a Demi Lovato breakdown. I didn't break it down. Just letting everyone know. You're talking about your shock for it. I was shocked. You do that on your Demi Lovato podcast.
Starting point is 02:02:06 All right, we have a guest upstairs. Should we bring our guest down to get acclimated for a quick second? Bring him down, man. We'll keep talking. The Tina Turner doc. The Tina Turner doc on, where was that that I saw? The HBO Max? That was on HBO Max. That was on HBO Max. Oh, I'm bugging. The Tina Turner doc. where was that that I saw the HBO Max that was on HBO Max the Tina Turner doc
Starting point is 02:02:28 I didn't see it I heard it it's like a five part doc that has the option to be rolled into all one I saw it as
Starting point is 02:02:36 one long film piece I like that by the way let me tell you guys Steve what's going on man how you feeling man you are a rich, what's going on, man? How you feeling, man? You are a rich fuck.
Starting point is 02:02:47 You are a rich fuck, man. Come sit right by me, man. Right where I like you to be. Come here. Sit down here with your fucking... What the hell is this? Some rich bag. Don't this bag look like...
Starting point is 02:03:02 This look like... Yo, Steve, man. Yo, Steve, man. Yo, man Yo man Something like Can I open this It's got some weight to it This is a nice bag you fucking rich piece of shit Let's see
Starting point is 02:03:18 Oh yeah see See come on man What are you saying? What is this? No, no, no. I want you to tell the people they can't see. Can you talk into the mic? John Rothschild, 06, just a real light. Let me hit the ace real quick.
Starting point is 02:03:39 We can put the ace on ice right now. Ace. Let's get that chill. You heard what the man said. You can put that on ice right now. I don't Let's get that chill. You heard what the man said. You heard what the man said. Yo, you can put that on ice right now. I don't know if you guys have cigars in there,
Starting point is 02:03:49 whatever you guys want to do. I like cigars. In the front. Whoa, whoa. Hey. Hey, the coach is incorrect. Nah. Hey, Joe.
Starting point is 02:03:57 I see, I see. I'm ghetto. I see it. I'm ghetto. Joe, you got to give him some applause, man. He came with the bike. Come on, man.
Starting point is 02:04:04 He did. Let me have the round of applause. Oh, Steve, look at him some applause, man. He came with a bite. Come on, man. He did. Let me get the round of applause. Oh, Steve, look at that. You got to zip it all the way down, man. He's not a customer of that shit, you know. Open it up. Boom, boom. Everything is smooth.
Starting point is 02:04:16 See how smooth that over is? Everything is smooth. Ladies and gentlemen, Steve Stout is here to join us. Let me get the round of applause one more time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. gentlemen, Steve Stout is here to join us. Let me hit the round of applause one more time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:27 He brought me a really beautiful, rich nigga looking bag filled with some, what's this, some Rothschild. That's a Rothschild, some Ace. That's a rich name, some Ace. Cigars. This is beautiful, man. You know what this reminds me of?
Starting point is 02:04:41 No. Let me tell you what this reminds me of. No. I was in Miami by happenstance right by happenstance i was in miami i was chasing my dick looking for something to do for the night of course that's what you do in miami yeah yeah yeah yeah uh wound up with a really good friend of mine, and she told me to run over to this spot because Steve was over there, and Steve is my guy. So I ran over to the spot, and it was mixy.
Starting point is 02:05:16 It was white girls partying, techno music. They were Spanish. That's what the rich niggas say. They call the white girls Spanish. That's not even true. Hey, it was white girls. Listen, it was white girls partying. There were like billionaires. You want to cut it?
Starting point is 02:05:29 That's all you want to know. There was billionaires everywhere. Like, it was a lot going on. And I tapped Steve Stout and I said, yo, man, this is a movie. And he was drunk and he just didn't is whatever have fun man and then ten minutes later a white guy with an accent came in the club and he was carrying something kind of like Steve with the book bag I would tell this story I don't care if you get all this trouble and he was like yo man Steve say
Starting point is 02:06:01 yo this gentleman just put him on a first class trip from London because he's got this black diamond that I was searching for for years. And he found it for me anywhere in the world. This is X, X, X amount of dollars. But he got it for me and he brought it here. Look at this beautiful piece. Oh, I'm sorry. And he pulled this thing out in the club. And it was a beautiful piece of jewelry whatever this was a diamond and at that point i knew oh yeah that's right it was the um
Starting point is 02:06:33 oh it's a lot of whatever that was it was a beautiful piece it was a beautiful diamond it was it was a beautiful black diamond it was the star of Africa. It's a lapel pin. That's big boy talk. These are real things. I mean, what do you want me to do? Yo, these are, say more. These are real things, right? I'm going to use that line one day, by the way.
Starting point is 02:07:01 Steve, Steve, how you doing, man? This is a long time coming with us getting you on the pod. I'm happy to be here. I'm happy to have you. I've wanted to come here. I've been asking to come here for a minute, man. I thought you were
Starting point is 02:07:11 in the welfare chair. Yeah, I did. No, that's the good director's chair. I'm sure you've directed something at some point. No. No?
Starting point is 02:07:18 Home movies. Sure. Sure. A lot of those in Miami, the home movies. They've been going on for years. Got it. sure sure lot of those in Miami the home movies they've been going on for years got it
Starting point is 02:07:29 you probably are one of the inventors of those home movies that's not true no probably don't try to go that far you've been here a long time
Starting point is 02:07:36 in hip hop that's why I'm glad to have you here because your name is part of so many legendary stories in hip hop and even if you don't know
Starting point is 02:07:44 those things because you're young, today you have United Masters, right? You're in plenty of pictures with Nas sipping wine, saying that y'all are better than us. Like, you got a lot of shit going on. So when we see it, for me, what you symbolize is one of the guys that came in under the old regime, the old set of rules, maybe learned from the old set of rules, and then had to adapt however many years later when you realize, much like this generation, okay, a lot of that stuff that we learned and the way that we did things, we could probably do it differently and do it a little better. What do you say to that? Yeah, it was probably two or three transitions from the time I got in the business.
Starting point is 02:08:29 I got in in 90, but shit, I got in the business in 92. 91, 92 with Kid N Play. The first thing I did that was Steve Stout doing something was I did the theme music for the Martin Lawrence show. Da-da-da-da-da-da. Oh, wow. You did the theme music for the Martin Lawrence show. Oh, wow. You did? I didn't know that.
Starting point is 02:08:48 Yeah. So I found a producer, this kid named Steve Kitt. And I knew Martin. He was kidding play. He used to sleep on the couch. He was on the come up, you know? And, you know, when he got the show, he gave me the opportunity. And I had my producer, Steve, did the theme music. And that was really the first thing that got me going in managing producers. And I got my confidence that I could
Starting point is 02:09:12 figure it out. And it went from that to Nas, and then Nas to Will Smith, and then Will Smith to- Trackmasters before Nas? Well, Trackmasters and Nas was the same time. Okay. Both 95, and then Mary and Will Smith, and then it ended, Enrique Iglesias, and then it just started going on and on and on. That's a resume there. But, you know, coming up in the business- It's a resume when you can say, and it just went on and on and on. After all that, it went on and on by the grace of God.
Starting point is 02:09:44 But then I left. But the thing that was crazy, and it's a very important part of being an entrepreneur, really just knowing yourself, was when I left the music business in 1999, when I departed, I felt like I could do more for the music business outside of the music business. And I went into advertising. And people thought that was crazy, because I was running Interscope and it was big and we had just did 8 Mile and it was just all these things but I knew if I went into the advertising business nobody was there that I could make something happen
Starting point is 02:10:16 and I'm into that kind of thing I'm into like if there's no footsteps then let me just go do it let me go lay those things down. And I'll do the work. And when I got to advertising, I mean, the first big thing that I did, but I knew people would love it. And it was just my gut instinct was the Allen Iverson Jadakiss commercial. And I was just like, man, are you kidding me? Like, I know I could do this. And I know people are going to love this shit. And they were playing the commercial on the radio. And it was just like, I was oh we could do that and then that led to or less than let's do
Starting point is 02:10:50 the let's do the S Carter's let's do sneakers let's take it one step further and we did the S Carter's the G units the ice creams of Pharrell and you know we it was a became a thing in 2003 2004 and then I'm loving it. And it just, with McDonald's, and it really has gone on and on. And then it went back to music and with United Masters. So basically, you're one of the original brand ambassadors of this thing. No, I'm the guy who did it. I'm the guy. There is no other person.
Starting point is 02:11:23 When you talk about hip hop being in advertising and treating the artists like brands and taking that around the world, there is no other person. There's not a second person to name. You consciously did that. You knew it was lacking from white America. I knew it. I got a glimpse of it. I got a glimpse of it when we did Men in Black, and the album sold 10 million copies, and the glasses sold more than the album, and nobody even talked about it.
Starting point is 02:11:53 Because in the music business, the issue was we made so much money because consumers, you guys were kids, we were selling you guys an album for $16, in which you only really like one song. Yeah, he's probably your age. Well, I did see that. He just looks good. Don't let the smooth taste fool you.
Starting point is 02:12:12 Well, you. Don't let the smooth taste fool you. That's a tagline. But yeah, the rest of us. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got it. You buy the one album. You buy the album for what?
Starting point is 02:12:23 The margin on that is huge, right? Because, you know, it's only one song. You're making so much money, you're not even thinking about all of the other ancillary businesses that you are not making money off of. Like, I mean, all the money that was made off of ringtones, that record companies didn't own a ringtone business. They were just giving the money away. So I just, I'm not one to get into that like you know i learned from my dad like my dad grew up like a merchant marine mechanic like it don't make a difference man no matter what the job is you got to do the job like it's that job just because we're making so
Starting point is 02:12:57 much money in entertainment doesn't mean you work less because you make more money put the same effort in as a plumber as a mechanic as, as somebody else. We ain't got shit. And that's what I did. And so when I left, I'm like, I'm going to figure this thing out. Because what I didn't want to see anymore was like, you watch Fruit Loop commercials, and then you got somebody doing fake rap in the background, and all that stupid shit. And you're looking at it like, this ain't even real. Let's put the real dudes in it.
Starting point is 02:13:22 So I'm like, I'm going to be the guy to figure out how to get the real dudes in it and I just chipped away at it and got it done what side of the fence were you on when super ugly drop what side of the fence was I on I was never important question you fly over can I get some alcohol I mean of course you do. What are you doing? What are you doing? They got wine. Don't treat our guests like this. Not out of a plastic cup like the rest of us do either.
Starting point is 02:13:55 Nah, we're going to hit the wine, man. Yeah, come on. Yo, don't do that again either. I didn't like how we was represented just now. They shouldn't have to ask for the wine. You can't bring the wine and they have to ask for it. Yeah, come on, man. This guy's showing me a fucking black diamond in the club.
Starting point is 02:14:13 You guys got washing machines in the operation. In the club. There's certain things we got to clean up around here, Joe. Hey, we got to wash and dry in here. We got to wash and dry in here. we got a wash and dry get out of here shit gotta get clean shit gotta get clean Steve
Starting point is 02:14:28 see hey and you come from the humble beginnings of hip hop I don't want to ask you about where you fountain ours at but it was
Starting point is 02:14:36 it was a wash and dry around probably it was a wash and dry definitely around yeah come on man Steve we come from humble beginnings at this podcast
Starting point is 02:14:43 we do and our old spot was a lot smaller than this It did you And we just made magic Out of a really small spot So we got to this new spot right After the Spotify deal All that shit that imploded we got here
Starting point is 02:14:58 And we had a minor Some minor issues With our co-hosts Our normal co-hosts of however many years. And Ish and Ice are doing me the solid of filling in while whatever internal issues get handled. So they're not normal podcasters. They're hip-hop lovers. I hate podcasts, actually.
Starting point is 02:15:21 But they're not normal. So how did you? I mean, what? I hate podcasts, actually. But they're not normal. So how did you, I mean, what? How did you get you into this gig, man? It's a favor, one. But the typical conversation is normal barbershop shit.
Starting point is 02:15:39 Yeah. You know what I mean? Like that we discuss or that we cover is normal stuff that we talk about on a day-to-day basis just shooting the shit in the house playing cards. You think niggas are going to come through
Starting point is 02:15:48 with the rock child on you? Nah, nah. They don't come through that with the barbershop. Somebody did that. Yeah, yeah. It's actually good. So that's where we land.
Starting point is 02:15:56 It's fantastic. What are you talking about? My bad. I thought you were one of the personal guests to have here. That's nice. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:16:03 Yeah, of course, man. I come with gifts. Big personality. I need to get one of those little party cases. That's nice. Thank you. Yeah, of course, man. I come with gifts. Big personality. I need to get one of those little party cases. That's a nice little party case. Big personality. I come with the full package. He had the bag specific for liquor and cigars.
Starting point is 02:16:15 That was fancy. That was a nice bag, though. That was a nice bag. A little alligator. That was nice. Steve, what's happening with United Masters? What's going on with United Masters? What's going on is we got just past a million artists united on our platform.
Starting point is 02:16:29 All independent artists. Come on, applause, man. Me and A.R. One million artists. Well, before you. I got to say one million. You got to keep making me say one million. For those who are not.
Starting point is 02:16:40 How many artists? One million. Okay, now. All right. That's a lot of artists. That is a lot. I use DistroKid. Why are you better than DistroKid? Well, million. Okay, now. All right. That's a lot of artists. That is a lot. I use DistroKid. Why are you better than DistroKid?
Starting point is 02:16:48 Well, wait. Before you answer, can you... Would you radio attack? No, I'm ready to attack. That's a good question. That's a good question. It's decent. For people who are not familiar, can you at least...
Starting point is 02:16:59 Can you give them some... What is... Like, if I've never heard of United Artists, can you tell me... You said expelled? Expelled. Expelled. I'm double checking. He's a rich bastard.
Starting point is 02:17:11 He's a rich bastard, this guy. United Masters is distribution. If you want to distribute music and get it on the DSPs, Apple, Spotify, Amazon Music, Deezer and others you go through United Masters rather than signing a record deal you can go through
Starting point is 02:17:29 United Masters go through your phone get the music uploaded on the DSPs and then start to earn money on your songs so an artist can't do that themselves
Starting point is 02:17:39 like an artist can't you just can't go to Apple and upload the music directly no I'm just saying I'm not they can try to do it themselves you have to go through a service to do that like okay right You just can't go to Apple and upload music directly. No, I'm just saying, I'm not ignoring it. They can try to do it themselves.
Starting point is 02:17:46 You have to go through a service to do that. Okay. Right? You have to go through an incubator service to do that, a distributor. We happen to be the best at it. So you answer your question about DistroKid. Or anyone. It's not a specific.
Starting point is 02:17:59 Or anyone or two. Whatever. They all do one side of what their business do. It's very similar. They do distribution. But we have an agency built inside of United Masses called Translation. Okay. And this agency represents the biggest brands, AT&T, State Farm, the NBA, ESPN, the Knicks.
Starting point is 02:18:21 And as an example, and what we have on one side is artists, a million artists. And I always look at artists as creating cultural currency. They always create trends. We have that on one side. And on the other side, we have brands. And this creates a marketplace where they can work together. And they work together. And we coordinate that all within our offices.
Starting point is 02:18:41 Okay. So having those level of brand opportunities is much more unique than what those other services have. Yeah, they don't do much. They just put you out there. Well, that's your problem because you're over there. That's true. Touche. Touche.
Starting point is 02:18:56 Touche. You can't say that to people, man. No, you can't. You really can't say that to people. No, that's what you're supposed to do. He asked me a very tough question. He got a you can't. You really can't say that to people. That's what you're supposed to do. He asked me a very tough question. He got a million artists. You said that's a tough question.
Starting point is 02:19:10 I'm like, no, it's not. He got a million artists. He got a million artists. He can say that. That's funny. He can say that. No, you bum. You over there.
Starting point is 02:19:18 You over there. That's funny. I didn't say that. I wouldn't do that. But now, your position, like you just said to Parks, that's your problem. You're say nothing. I wouldn't do that. But now, but now, your position, like you just said to Parks, that's your problem,
Starting point is 02:19:28 you're over there. I would assume. I want you over here. I want to get all the artists over here. I would assume that your position creates enemies
Starting point is 02:19:36 with, with distribution. Yo, this, I'm just showing everybody the fact that you definitely put me in a wine glass and it says Chrisette Michelle, the artist on it.
Starting point is 02:19:50 That's the Chrisette Michelle one. That's branding. Is that true? That's branding. Look what you brought to the game. Is that true? That's branding. Come on. Look what you brought to the game. Look what you did to the game.
Starting point is 02:20:12 I was just honoring your legacy, you know? Don't, the position you sit in, doesn't it put you at odds with some of the distributors and labels? Like labels hate you, right? Well, the labels I'm sure don't like our positioning. They hate you. Well well the labels are starting to do things like buy independent record companies now because they realize they just bought a wall um sony did they realize that they got to start this is the future right the fastest growing segment in the music
Starting point is 02:20:40 business are independent artists so they didn't like me in the beginning but they're actually starting to buy those companies. They don't like you now Steve. They still don't like you. That may have something to do with just me personally. But outside of that part of it I think that the industry is morphing and changing it's no different Joe speaking of not people, the way people feel about you. Yeah. Because you still not like me. No, they don't like me.
Starting point is 02:21:11 Especially this week. And why would they like Joe? Well, because Joe decided that he didn't want to sign a deal and do the status quo, that he wanted to be independent and control his future. These are the values that I've been speaking about for years. This is actually what connected us.
Starting point is 02:21:28 Because I wasn't really a fan of Joe as a rapper or anything of that matter. But as Joe morphed into his new role in chapter in life. And can I tell you guys that all the executives say that about Joe the rapper. Yeah. I wasn't into Joe the rapper. But as he changed, what he says and what he's talking about is crazy. And as soon as we met, we were meeting up in Harlem. We met a few times.
Starting point is 02:21:48 We were just talking. I was like, what he's going to do and where his heart is at is going to be part of tomorrow. And it was exactly what I wanted to do at United Masses. And the fact that he just did the deal with Patreon, it's going to fuck things up. Because now you have the next wave of creators saying i could do that too with the deal that i announced uh recently uh with apple being an investor in united masters what makes this important is now what i'm saying and what they're saying is it's an option to go independent like if you go to a major label that's one option but just because you go independent. Like, if you go to a major label, that's one option.
Starting point is 02:22:25 But just because you go independent doesn't mean you have, you don't have the same opportunities. Prior, you think if you go independent, you're definitely
Starting point is 02:22:32 going to get jerked on the opportunities. You're not going to get a shot to get this. It won't work. Yeah, but now what we're saying is, what my goal is
Starting point is 02:22:38 is to not say, you know, fuck the record companies, but it's just one option. You can go take an advance and sign your rights away or you can control your rights, come to the United Masses
Starting point is 02:22:50 and get similar opportunities. Gotcha. That's the goal. Gotcha. Right? And I think that's what, Joe, you're building
Starting point is 02:22:57 what you're doing now and you want people to say you could sign this company or that company or you can be independent own your rights it may take longer to make the money but you own yourself in perpetuity and there's value to that absolutely that's what i think that's what joe thinks all the value is but my stance today steve is i can't convince people of that anymore like i can't twist people's arm to know where the value is uh to tell them how
Starting point is 02:23:27 they should go about their business but the shit that you just named is the shit that i've been on is the shit i'll continue to be on and that's just i'm not wavering on some of that like that's where i come from i've did the majors i've done the independent independent. I see where I like. I see where I'm happy. I see where I land. And some of those ideologies are present in podcasting as well. You know, some people, if you're not really talented and you don't believe that you're going to make it, it might be the right idea to just take the bag because you don't believe in yourself. That might be the better financial decision.
Starting point is 02:24:09 Sure. But if you're committed to your craft and you believe in yourself. And you work hard. And you work hard for sure. Yeah. It makes no sense to take short money. What is their question, if that's the case? Because there's a lot of people that believe in themselves and have talent.
Starting point is 02:24:23 It's the work hard part that separates, I think, in my opinion, the people that make it long term. But I'll tell you this right now. But I don't care if you have a record deal or you have a podcast deal. If you are not using your social tools and you are not working hard at marketing yourself, it ain't going to work anyway. You can have a record deal. If you're not using your social media in a way to engage your audience, you're not going to get shit done. The same thing with podcasts and everything else.
Starting point is 02:24:51 So the bets on you are no matter what. Working hard is batteries included now. This ain't back in the days where you just show up and somebody just put makeup on you and slap an outfit on you and be like, go mtv and get it done right no you gotta work you gotta do the work anyway yeah that exists in the major label system for sure speaking of speaking of doing the work i'll share with you a private conversation that i shouldn't share probably is it private not between you and i but i had this conversation with someone else in confidence and i'll share pieces of it with you thank you just to see you respond in real time
Starting point is 02:25:24 no problem i was talking to a friend of mine and they were telling me that there was a zoom call someone else in confidence and I'll share pieces of it with you. Thank you. Just to see you respond in real time. No problem. I was talking to a friend of mine and they were telling me that there was a zoom call recently. It was a very important zoom call. What I'm learning as somebody that's trying to get as much money as y'all is y'all have secrets. Y'all, y'all,
Starting point is 02:25:38 you know, you're in the y'all, you're in the y'all, but y'all, the, you know, Joe acts broke. I'm going to see how long you're gonna keep pulling this joke
Starting point is 02:25:45 you puff hold it's a different it's a different type of money it's a different type I don't know and that's a solution
Starting point is 02:25:54 yeah yeah you've been doing it a long time so listen so they was telling me about a zoom call and it was a zoom call like for some important matter
Starting point is 02:26:01 that Brokey shouldn't be involved right and it was you let's make up some names yeah yeah puff hold some important matter that Brokey shouldn't be involved in, right? And it was you. Let's make up some names. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hove, some important figures. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:13 And y'all were supposed to speak about New York issues. Yeah. Is this ringing a bell yet? From the first time, the first word you said. The person that was telling me the story laughed because it's you let's say Hove and Puff speaking about very important New York issues but you looked
Starting point is 02:26:34 wealthy in Miami by a beach front. Hove looked wealthy by a beach front that wasn't New York and Puff looked wealthy by a beach front that wasn't New York and the person had to by a beachfront that wasn't New York. And the person had to say, yo, dogs, you niggas gotta go change.
Starting point is 02:26:51 Y'all have to change. You can't fight for these New York policies and all this important shit. We're going. Just let it roll. That's true. Well, part of it's true. The part that's true. Well, part of it is true. The part that's true was that we actually do care about New York city.
Starting point is 02:27:11 And we did have a conversation about New York and you know, what's good. How's New York going to return post COVID. Um, and that really matters. That's what we got on this call. And we, we,
Starting point is 02:27:21 we taped this for, for that reason. Now, if you look at that and you go, Oh, well look what he has, or look what he has on, and they don't look like they care, there's no other reason to do it. Like, I can't not be who I am. I came from Queens. I went to five colleges. I didn't graduate.
Starting point is 02:27:38 And you know the whole story. It's documented what I did. It's not like I just got to the the in front the beach thing I love New York City New York City and every dirty piece of shit version of it has helped me get to where I am and what I don't want is for New York to fuck around and turn into Detroit because you know people start to leave and it ends up getting fucked up and it's's a concerning, it's very concerning to Puff. It's very concerning to Jade.
Starting point is 02:28:07 It's very concerning to Nas. It's concerning to a lot, whether you live in New York or not. Why is it concerning to people that don't live in New York? Because New York, there's something about New York that you take with you no matter where you go. Got it. New York pride. You take it no matter where you go, man. And you don't ever want that to go nowhere.
Starting point is 02:28:26 That's why. So do you think that new entrepreneurs that bump into their first bit of money should stay in New York? No, it's not about staying in New York. No, no. That's a separate point. I'm asking. I'm asking, do you...
Starting point is 02:28:41 When you talk about a state in New York and the future of New York, do you see new, young, black entrepreneurs staying in New York with their new wealth? Because that's the conversation I'm having with a lot of people out there. This is my problem. out of this is just raising the taxes ridiculously and making it so that you have to pay 70% of your money to live in New York and get shitty services, then no, they shouldn't be in New York. If New York is going to cost so much to live in it and what you get back out of it doesn't return, no, you shouldn't live in New York.
Starting point is 02:29:22 Okay. Why is that new? It's always been that no no they're raising outside of the tax issue it's always been cramped it's always been expensive expensive as fuck mmm and what you get for your dollar hasn't ever really been a thing New York is living off of New York I disagree with you I disagree with you. I disagree with you because
Starting point is 02:29:47 it's expensive but rich with opportunity. I agree. So that's that. So is it the metropolitan area then you mean? You can haul ass to New Jersey and have that. You're going to be very specific. No, no, no. I'm from Jersey.
Starting point is 02:30:03 I'm from Jersey. You know the saying that like that I'm from Jersey you know the taxes in Jersey is high too higher the highest and you don't get shit you get a yard nigga don't do that
Starting point is 02:30:12 we got a parking spot I got a yard okay how about opportunities Steve it's 10 minutes but it's right there it's 10 minutes no but I'm just saying
Starting point is 02:30:20 it's New Jersey though I can get crickets but I can get to New York faster than New Yorkers. Exactly. Explain that. I can walk. I can walk to New York.
Starting point is 02:30:31 I can walk to New York City from my house. You can take a backseat. No, I don't have to take a ferry or nothing. I can walk to New York City and be there faster than the person in Queens trying to get to Manhattan. That's what I mean. Oh, you can get to the city faster. In distance, proximity. Yeah, that's what I mean. Oh, you can get to the city faster. And distance, proximity.
Starting point is 02:30:46 Yeah, that's all I'm saying. That was my question. Like, yo, are you speaking from the tri-state area when you say New York? Yeah. Is rich with opportunity? I'm saying that New York City is rich with opportunity, full stop. Got you. I agree.
Starting point is 02:30:59 It is. And all of the places that are in close proximity to it all benefit from that. If we lose that, it's fucked up. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. I agree. And if they raise taxes to the point where all of these companies leave, it turns those opportunities. I agree. And then all of a sudden, New Jersey is not New Jersey anymore.
Starting point is 02:31:19 Because New Jersey is great because it's proximity to New York. I agree with you. But if New Jersey has proximity to Detroit, then you become Cleveland. I agree. Yeah, good point. I agree. Can I tell you my favorite Steve Stout story in the past two years? That's not personal between us.
Starting point is 02:31:38 Oh, my God. I was sitting home. Yo, you the man. You've caused me so much joy that you don't know about. I was sitting home watching first take. And you popped up. And I was like, oh, that's my
Starting point is 02:31:57 man Steve. And I'm a Knicks fan. So I want to hear what he got to say. You know this incident? And you went on there talking a whole bunch of shit you shouldn't have said. And then they snatched your ass off of that screen and never let you talk again for the Knicks. And I said, see, can't have no hip hop nigga up there talking real talk about no team.
Starting point is 02:32:20 Yeah. That was one of my favorite moments because you was up there kicking it like we kick it. Well, it was very, it was hot on that set. First of all, I think Stephen A is fantastic. He is. He is fucking great. He's fantastic. He's from Queens.
Starting point is 02:32:38 And underpaid. And from Queens. He's the man. Yeah. And. Huge inspiration. You know, I enjoy doing the marketing for the Knicks. I love the Knicks.
Starting point is 02:32:48 I mean, I grew up in New York. I love the Knicks. I think it's smart for them to have you. Yeah. I told you that before. But, and you see what's happening this season. It's amazing. The way they're playing, playing hard.
Starting point is 02:32:59 Man, it'd be even more amazing if they drafted Tyler Hansberry, whatever his name is in Sacramento. But we'll talk about that. But Leon and Wes have done an amazing job. Shit. They're killing. Coach, Tibbs, the whole thing is just ridiculous. It's great. It's clicking.
Starting point is 02:33:12 It's clicking. And when fans come back, forget it. It's going to be great. The Garden's going to feel magical. So we're not going to see you at the Barclays. I saw you. I bumped into you at the Barclays. That was D-Way's last game.
Starting point is 02:33:22 Oh, yeah. That was a great night. D-Way's last game. Yeah, it was a great night. Real good night. Yeah. So no more Barclays. That was D-Way's last game. Oh, yeah. That was a great night. D-Way's last game. Yeah, it was a great night. Real good night. So no more Barclays for you? Nah, I'm a Knicks. I'm running with the Knicks.
Starting point is 02:33:32 I'm not going. We don't go to the Barclays. We go to the Barclays to see the Knicks. Yeah, when the Knicks play. Yeah. When the Knicks play. Yeah. What else do I need to ask Steve about?
Starting point is 02:33:41 There's so much shit to get into with you. Is there any nice stuff I need to know from Steve? Uh-uh to know from steve there's no no shit there's no no the grammy win things let's talk about money is ruining my life independence is ruining my life no it's all of this stuff that i stand for is ruining my fucking life why man because as i attempt to to and this is too much real talk now as i attempt to build a business or be an entrepreneur or stand by some of my some of my codes and morals that i live by it is causing an issue with people that i may have grown up with let's say that there we go it's like when i got a record deal some of the people that i was
Starting point is 02:34:25 doing breaking and enterings with and robbing gas stations with they maybe didn't understand the move i'm serious they didn't get you right so now here we go right and let's not even get to now a few years ago there was some people in my life that was like yo man you doing all right so i should be doing all right and i and i tried to explain taxes to them in that moment that's a bad idea it's a bad conversation to have steve when you're talking about somebody you grew up with well they're like we used to rob gas stations why are you talking about tax we shared cupcakes together we have we've done everything together and you telling me about taxes right now so i mean at every step of the way there's been like
Starting point is 02:35:10 a huge lesson for me to learn right and i learned from guys like you whole pup the people that have andre harrell rest in peace my god like the people that yeah we don't even need to get there but the people that yeah i mean y'all and when you try to implement some of that stuff today, you're dealing with internet kids, and it's just a different time. It's different than y'all doing it in the 90s and doing it today. I think that's never changed, Joe. There's always going to be a survivor's remorse. That was the show.
Starting point is 02:35:41 LeBron and Maverick Carter did Survivor's Remorse. A guy who made it, and it was all of the unintended effects of making it. Look, I just read this last night, man. Can you believe Kobe's mother-in-law, his wife, Vanessa's mom, is suing the estate? She's suing her daughter? Look at that. For watching the kids? She's suing her daughter?
Starting point is 02:36:03 Look at that. For watching the kids? I mean, these are real, real things that you can't even, you know, once money gets involved, unfortunately all bets are off. You don't know who your friends are until there's money or women involved. I know, but I'm asking you how you deal with that. How have you dealt with that? You probably give it because you love somebody. You give them the benefit of the doubt.
Starting point is 02:36:30 But then it becomes a thing where you can't move. I mean, you have no options. You're back against the wall. Either you're going to stay still and stuck in the moment, or you're going to figure out, yo, we got to cut ties.
Starting point is 02:36:43 We got to move on, man. When you have a relationship with somebody and every single time y'all talk, everything is like, remember the time when we, remember the time when we, it's time to go. You ain't got no new conversation. You ain't got no new words, man. You need some new words. Damn it, that hurts what you said. Chrisette Michelle, hey. He's absolutely right though no no no
Starting point is 02:37:09 I understand on the Denzel movie when he's like yo what you gonna do your success took a shot at you what you gonna do be unsuccessful
Starting point is 02:37:15 you can't be stagnant cause everybody can't grow with you you gotta grow and that's gonna mean letting some people fall by the wayside it's hard
Starting point is 02:37:24 that you grew up and you don't wanna feel like a sellout you're like everybody you shit it on And that's going to mean letting some people fall by the wayside. It's hard. That you grew up with. And you don't want to feel like a seller. You're like everybody you shit it on. You feel like a hypocrite. And you know what, Joe? You're focused on what you're doing. This craft, you got one shot to get this right and change your family's fortunes forever. Right?
Starting point is 02:37:39 And you got to finish this job. And you got to finish it off. And if anybody gets in the way of that, they're going to have to deal with it and see you later, man. This is what it is. That's how I feel, but it hurts. The process hurts. That is how I feel. The process hurts.
Starting point is 02:37:52 But, man, it hurts. The process hurts. That's it. I mean, that's it. The real ones understand, man. I got family members who really go, okay. They didn't understand for a while. And then it turns over time.
Starting point is 02:38:06 They're like, oh shit, now I understand really what you're doing. There's a couple things that happen and they go, oh, it could be things in their life that get them more mature. Or they see you ascending to a place where people are like, oh shit, you're related to Steve Stout. And they go, he really wasn't fucking around 15 years ago when he said this that and the third my mom used to be mad at me a lot
Starting point is 02:38:30 because I'm like why don't you know go to more family events go to this and I'm like nah I gotta go to see Nas
Starting point is 02:38:38 and that like that was more important than the family event and they made me feel bad about that and now they understand right and imagine if I didn't about that and now they understand. Right?
Starting point is 02:38:47 And imagine if I didn't do it and didn't have a chance for them ever to understand I just lost the opportunity. Opportunities aren't waiting for you, Joe. Let me ask you though do you think they're more open to understanding it because now
Starting point is 02:38:57 mommy doesn't have a mortgage? I think You get what I'm saying? Well, I think in the mommy part of it Well, once you see it working Yeah, once you see I think once That's my I'm saying? Well, I think... In the money part of it... Well, once you see it working... Yeah, once you see... I think once...
Starting point is 02:39:06 That's my point, though. Once they reap... Once they see it working, it doesn't necessarily have to work. If it has to work for them, that's a different selfish shit. But then they get... But then it's crystal clear to them, though.
Starting point is 02:39:17 I'm just saying, if it's crystal clear to them, not because you paid for their mortgage, but because they see that you're succeeding. Oh, because it's crystal clear. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just saying, it doesn't have to be clear only if it's to their benefit. If they love you, they should be happy for you.
Starting point is 02:39:30 My mom understood what was going on before I bought her house. She knew what was going on. Your mother's different, though. Your mother's way more insightful than most. Well, I'm saying that because even our parents, my parents are, I won't say their age, but they're older. My mother's insightful. What are you talking about? I don't know your mother, parents, I won't say their age, but they're old. My mother's insightful. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 02:39:46 I'm not. I don't know your mother, Steve. I don't know your mother, Steve. I'm just saying. I'm not taking a shot at you. Wait, wait. It felt like that. I am the one talking to my mother.
Starting point is 02:39:54 What the fuck are you talking about, nigga? There's always the most light-skinned motherfucker talking to me. I don't want you. You're a fucking light-skinned motherfucker. I Oh my God. Light-skinned nigga from the back. Yeah. Ay-yi-yi. That's funny, yo. You still work with the Trackmasters? Tone. Tone is my best friend, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:33 Don't work with them anymore. Tone is a friend of mine. I feel like they're underrated. Underrated? I can't do that. Underappreciated, baby. Underappreciated. Oh, no, yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:42 Well, I definitely want them to get that verses off with them. Sexy thing. I wanted to get that verses off with um that's what you want now that's what you're doing yeah jermaine you don't know nothing about this hold up hold up for me mic check y'all man hey this is the remix by the way this is the remix some of y'all don't know they sold remixes separately back then. It's almost a different song. Come on, man. You know a little bit about this, right? Yeah, you 47, nigga.
Starting point is 02:41:12 Yeah, Steve was working in hip-hop with his drop. You an old fuck. Not that old, but yeah. This is 92. Yeah. 92? How old were you in 92
Starting point is 02:41:25 92 really yeah I started when I was 21 I started when I was 21 in the record business as Kid and Play's road manager
Starting point is 02:41:35 first time I went up to Uptown Records was the day that Magic Johnson said he had AIDS and I watched it in Puffy's office
Starting point is 02:41:44 it was Puffy who I just met, Andre Harrell. My man. And we all sat there, and we watched him. He had a press conference. But he had AIDS. And that was like, when I had been in the music business, like maybe seven months before that. I was in 12th grade.
Starting point is 02:42:01 Yeah. I didn't say my age. I'm chilling. I'm going to tell grade yeah I'm gonna say my age I'm chilling I was I'm gonna tell you something I learned about uh I think about this all the time about um this idea of fame and just completely changing subjects but I used to watch kid and play and they had lost their way as musicians and they were walking around and people would go up to them
Starting point is 02:42:27 and ask them for their autograph. And every time people asked them for their autograph, in their minds, it was like, oh shit, we poppin'. And you realize that people would ask you
Starting point is 02:42:38 for your autograph, but they would never buy your shit. They just would ask you for your autograph. And it's the same thing now with followers and likes and shit. They don't give a for your autograph. And it's the same thing now with followers and likes and shit. They don't give a fuck about you because
Starting point is 02:42:48 all of a sudden you have all these followers, you have all these likes, and then you drop a song and you try to sell some skincare or some bullshit, and the shit don't break out. It don't even matter. And you're like, well, I have this many people following me. How come they don't care? Because they really aren't into you like that. There's people who like
Starting point is 02:43:04 you, and there's people who like you and there's people who love you it's funny you say that at united masters are you attempting to target true talent or are you attempting to target musicians that have numbers behind them i am trying to i am first of all we're a platform i'm not targeting anybody it's everyone it's everyone i'm not targeting anybody if you want to if you want to get your music distributed and you have 20 fans or you have 2 million fans, man, do your thing. So it's not you soliciting actively? I'm not soliciting actively, no.
Starting point is 02:43:29 Do you take a percentage or is it like a fee base? There's choice. You could pay $5 a month and keep 100% of your money or you can pay free up front and you get 90% and we get 10%. Does either of those impact the licensing part? No. Okay. No, not at all all i'm paying you five dollars a month you can pay five dollars a month that's pretty vital what we doing we're not doing anything amazing they got apple invested in the company google invested in the company andreessen harwood's invested in the company. Andreessen Horowitz invested in the company. I'm certainly not fucking around.
Starting point is 02:44:06 I got great technology behind the company. There's no, it's all real. You can check it every sideways, upside down. It's all good. And I don't care what anybody says. I took the long route. I've been doing this shit since I was 21 years old. I took the fucking long route.
Starting point is 02:44:22 Every single stone, I turned over. Every step of the way. What do you think about, just on a general hip hop question, what do you think about all of the rappers and all of the gun charges that are happening currently? Are you aware? If you're not, I can tell you. I'm very aware.
Starting point is 02:44:42 What do you think about that? Is that what's the term? aware if you're not i can tell you i'm very aware like what do you think about that is that uh is that uh targeting targeting are we complicit as a culture in that um is that the new uh concoction for success moving forward like it seems we're targeting less musicians and more people with stories to sell. Well, Joe, the long version of that theory is fame and talent always had a relationship, always had a great relationship. And in the last, I'd say, 10 years, fame has told talent, I got you. Peace.
Starting point is 02:45:25 Peace out. Motherfuckers will set themselves on fire for fame. If you're talent, you're not even- We've seen it. You don't even know what to do. Literally. No, we touched on that earlier. Yeah. Fame versus talent, man.
Starting point is 02:45:36 They at war. They used to be co-conspirators. Now they're at war. And fame, and people are like, I'm running for- Once the public started incentivizing fame, talent had to take an L. Right. And talent's taking
Starting point is 02:45:49 an L right now. Now, there's obviously going to be great talent that is bigger than life. But I'm just saying, generally speaking, you know,
Starting point is 02:45:57 you watch people who are talented have to do things to be famous because if they can't get the fame part off, you know, you got to get attention,
Starting point is 02:46:05 man. These kids are putting guns in videos and doing everything that they're doing. They get the attention. If they can get the song off behind it, cool. But they know that if they put the guns in the video and do all kind of crazy shit, it will get views. The notoriety. Yeah, notoriety. That's right.
Starting point is 02:46:21 It's where we are in culture I mean people you know people want to put tattoos all over their bodies and faces and then shit like that I mean people are like oh shit who's that
Starting point is 02:46:32 a nigga who's stupid with a fucking tattoo on his face well these kids believe you know fame by any means necessary yeah but again
Starting point is 02:46:41 whatever I gotta do to get it that translates all genres of music that's not a hip-hop thing i think it's a societal thing no i think it's no it's it's really bad it's gonna go it goes into it goes into i agree one fake ass is at 18 in the whole package yes right this is a societal thing it goes into a crazy crazy thing bro women don't even take frontal pictures anymore like there are women that don't even take frontal pictures anymore. Like, there are women that won't take a frontal picture.
Starting point is 02:47:08 They got to turn to the side or they got to look over their shoulder because that's where you get the likes and the notoriety from. And they're making more money than talented people. Oh, you mean that show their ass. Yeah, like they're making a shitload of money. So how do you knock it? Definitely making more money than DJs. Yeah, so how do you knock it at that point? Yo, what's wrong with you knock it? Definitely making more money than DJs. Yeah, so how do you knock it at that point? Yo, what's wrong with you, man?
Starting point is 02:47:28 Yo, Chrisette Michelle got you boxed. You can't target the DJs. I'm saying these girls used to see The girls are making all the money.
Starting point is 02:47:38 Used to see, yo, go to this club featuring DJ blah, blah, blah. Then all of a sudden it changed to the girl. No, the bartenders. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:47:46 Not even now. Now you got the Instagram model who's just there. They became big enough DJs. She's not even doing nothing. That's what I want to ask you about. Instagram models make more money than DJs. I've seen it. Facts.
Starting point is 02:47:56 Facts. Make more money than some artists. Let's stay here for a second. Yeah. I don't know your marital situation. I don't know if you're single or not. I'm married. You know that.
Starting point is 02:48:05 Don't try to act like you don't know how to hit me with the curveball. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know your marital situation. I don't know if you're single or not. I'm married. You know that. Don't try to act like you don't know how to hit me with the curveball. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know your marital situation. I'm single, jaded, scarred. Fuck these bitches. I'm looking for love in all the wrong places. I'm open to the 39-year-old, the 26-year-old.
Starting point is 02:48:22 I'm open. I'm looking. I'm searching. You're doing the whole MILF program. All right. Yeah. All right. All right.
Starting point is 02:48:31 And I'm a DILF. I'm a DILF. You don't think I'm DILFy? You don't think I'm giving them DILFy vibes? I'm not a dad they want to bone, huh? Huh? I can't tell. Hey, if my oldest son have a bad night with the condom, I'm going to be something else.
Starting point is 02:48:48 I'm going to be a growth. I'm going to be a growth. Something like that. In your social travels, though, as of late, have you seen, and I'm going to try to ask this safely. Yeah. And you can skip it if you need to. I will. yeah and you can skip it if you need to i will have you seen a change in interaction since the women have come up financially without the men like the women are getting to their own bags
Starting point is 02:49:15 they millionaires alone just in your travels have you seen their stance and position change and be executed differently or expressed differently to men who may have felt like they had to one up financially in years past right that was a safe way to ask that yeah you know what because i see it i really and you in miami nigga you see it too no no i would like yeah but i don't see that interaction where the girl makes more money than the guy and therefore how they communicate in the dialogue happens is different i haven't seen that yet okay not even but i'm sure it's but i just i haven't seen it but you're asking but i understand the question i would like to know how would that is what he's in miami it's going to be hard for him to see he has friends he goes to a club no
Starting point is 02:50:03 i'm not but, at his level... That nigga was with the owner of Kmart last time I seen him. And Tony was like, yo, this nigga owns Kmart. Wow! He's not a $300,000 a year dude, right? Debatable. I don't know what he makes.
Starting point is 02:50:20 I don't know. I don't know if he makes 300 grand. Alright, you just said he's a part of them. Looks wealthy to just said he's a part of them. He looks wealthy to me. He's a part of them. He has a little shirt. Look at his shirt. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:50:29 A bottle bag. Guys, look at you guys. Look at him. A pink Margiela. I had the pink Margiela. Come on, man. I think you have the money. Back to what I was saying, right?
Starting point is 02:50:37 So to ask Steve that question, because we were going to address this earlier, right? To ask Steve that question, he might be coming from a point of reference that not that many women can pull a card on him. I didn't think they pulled it on him. I just thought he might have been around. I didn't see it, though. I just thought he might have saw it happen.
Starting point is 02:50:54 But my circle is doing it. Exactly. So they're not, you know what I'm saying? The chick's not pulling a card on my circle. That's a stunt. That's a stunt. That's a real open flex. My whole circle doing it.
Starting point is 02:51:10 So, no, I don't see it. Mama, put your card back in the deck when it comes to me and my circle. Yeah. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true.
Starting point is 02:51:18 You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. I get it. It's true. Yeah. They're not doing that. Did you see this year's Grammys at all? You got it? Got it.
Starting point is 02:51:28 Say less. No, it was quiet. I was quiet on it. I seen some of the show. I seen some of the performances after. I didn't watch it live. I wanted to see some of the performances afterwards because of, you know, specifically Cardi's because it was talked about a lot.
Starting point is 02:51:44 So I wanted to see that and Little Baby's performance because I wanted to see that because people said it was dope. What do you think about Cardi and Meg gyrating on each other on CBS? That CBS knows they need to do that. Got it.
Starting point is 02:52:00 Yep. Yep. Got it. Power hip hop. Yeah. CBS knows they need to do that and if cbs don't do that they don't show up and if they don't show up they don't have to show yeah so this is the problem right so that cbs becomes complicit um and yet's the other thing that you
Starting point is 02:52:17 know people become more look man back in the days joe remember all these rappers get these deals and then uh you know rick ross says one thing and they drop him from Reebok and they drop. Motherfuckers could say anything right now. Nobody's dropping anybody. Nobody's doing shit. Really? No. Unless it shows up in the New York Times, no one's dropping anybody.
Starting point is 02:52:37 Everybody's with everything. Because they know, like, the rules, the goalposts are moving right what is too sexy what is too far look what she's doing look what she's doing what is too sexy what is too far
Starting point is 02:52:52 what isn't you know what is how does remember they never used to curse on television then all of a sudden it was like
Starting point is 02:53:00 did he just say shit did he just say bitch on NBC no fuck, shit, motherfucker. Did he just say bitch on NBC? No, it's not in that Channel 7, though. No, not Channel 7. Channel 7 says shit. No, they definitely say shit. They say shit on Channel 7. I heard a bitch.
Starting point is 02:53:14 They say damn and bitch. They say damn and bitch. Yeah, I'm trying to say. I know that. And when we were young, they would never. Yeah, that's for real. When I was coming up watching TV, they wouldn't even show two parents in the same bedroom. They was doing all kind of, they would just show the show.
Starting point is 02:53:26 They wouldn't even let them cut inside the bedroom. Like, you wouldn't show a couple in bed. They would never do that. Then it just changed over time. Standards change because, you know what? If the audience don't want to see it and they check out, your job is to keep adding more and more layers to it to make it engaged. Because if it's not, look, they're stripping on stage, man. They're trying to make it controversial.
Starting point is 02:53:47 That'll make them tune in. Whatever it takes to get that bag. That's true. Whatever it takes to get that bag. But again, that's kind of what we addressed earlier with regards to Deshaun. As long as that money is coming in, Houston Texans could really give a fuck
Starting point is 02:54:03 if he molests 7,000 nuns. As long as it don't go public. You know what I'm saying? They're going to keep it from going public. We'll put ice on it. You get what I'm saying? And so now, it's a societal thing. Where the moral compass is skewed
Starting point is 02:54:18 along with the money. Now I'm with you. The moral compass has become a moving target yeah weekly daily man
Starting point is 02:54:30 I'm in the advertising business these guys walk around like when you buy media a company will say I want to buy this many impressions
Starting point is 02:54:39 and they spend the money for the impressions and they'll buy it on you know some digital sites digital networks and they just want to for the impressions and they'll buy it on some digital sites, digital networks. And they just want to reach an audience and a target for a number as cheap as possible.
Starting point is 02:54:53 Then all of a sudden you find out that your ad is running before a beheading on YouTube. You never gave a fuck until it ran and the New York Times wrote that story about it. Now all of a sudden you go, we don't want to run any advertising on YouTube. You never gave a fuck until it ran and the New York Times wrote that story about it. Now all of a sudden you go, we don't want to run any advertising on YouTube.
Starting point is 02:55:10 You didn't give a fuck. You didn't even check before. What I said. This is the Nike Little Nas X shit. You only care until it becomes public. This is what he's saying. It's the exact same thing.
Starting point is 02:55:19 Nobody cares. That's the Nike Little Nas X shit. It's when it shows up in the New York Times and you could lose your job and all of a sudden you act like you care. And you're stunned, by the way. It's when it shows up in the New York Times and you could lose your job and all of a sudden you act like you care. And you're stunned,
Starting point is 02:55:28 by the way. That's part of the whole reaction thing is like, oh, I had no idea. But you didn't give a fuck. Of course you had no idea. You didn't care. You just bought
Starting point is 02:55:37 as much media as you can as cheap as possible and whatever on the edge programming. Look, people ran ads on the Grammys and they look what they were doing yes I'm chasing the faith but but but now if the New York Times writes in that day the Grammys had sexual content on it it was laying and all of a sudden
Starting point is 02:55:57 becomes a problem all the advertisers we're not running anything on the Grammys again until we see what the performances are up front. That's how it works. It's shoot first, ask questions later. Yeah. That's my issue. That's crazy. It's my issue though with CBS. So, and what's going on with Lil Nas X?
Starting point is 02:56:17 Well. Do you think Nike had some, you think Nike had some wind of what was going on? And now they're trying to dissociate themselves from it? I don't know if Nike had any, I think what Lil Nas X did, I think Lil Nas X is a low-key Tekashi 6ix9ine type of, from a marketing perspective, and figuring out how to get attention around themselves. They both have done really good jobs at that,
Starting point is 02:56:43 whether you like their music or not. And do I think Nike had something to do with that? No. Did I think Nike know about it? No. Would Nike have cared if it didn't get media attention? No. Now that it got media attention and the devils,
Starting point is 02:57:02 Satan and all that, now they got to deal with it. But had it not had that, now they got to deal with it. But had it not had that, they wouldn't have cared. They did a Jesus shoe with holy water and they didn't care. Same company. As soon as you hear the word Satan. It's different though. It's a whole different story.
Starting point is 02:57:22 You can't compare the Jesus shoe to the Satan shoe that has blood coming in a vial. Nike's standpoint, they don't care regardless until the negative press starts rolling in. Let me just tell the idiots out there. I don't know who's making the shoe. I'm shocked that you idiots believe that a drop of real blood is going in each pair of these shoes. Y'all are really stupid. Whose blood it was. They are. What happened?
Starting point is 02:57:41 They came out and said whose blood it was. It's the company member's blood. Allegedly. It's a company member's blood, allegedly. It's a drop of air. I don't care. Just the fact that you thought... How about the fact that we're talking about it? Word. That's all they wanted.
Starting point is 02:57:53 That's all they wanted. There we go. That's real. We just said earlier that people will set themselves on fire. Right. I mean, this is close. Satan, hell, fire. This is that.
Starting point is 02:58:02 This is true. He just went for it. Like, okay, bro, you got it. Why we got to get into Satan? I mean, what are we talking about, man? And now he has Kirk Franklin on the remix. Dog, he's land. Kirk Franklin's on the remix.
Starting point is 02:58:16 Wow. The remix of what? The Devil Worshippers? Are you sure? This is what he said. Kirk Franklin's on the remix. It didn't come out yet. So it could be trolling.
Starting point is 02:58:22 We don't know. Bro, he's lap dancing the devil. We do not know. On the video. There it is. And he got a BBL. Come on, don't start that again. Don't start that again.
Starting point is 02:58:34 Yo, if you think Lil Nas X didn't get a BBL, you need to go do some BBL research. That shit is sitting. I take your word for it. Yeah, I'm going to take your word. It's sitting, man. I take your word. You got it, bro. It's sitting.
Starting point is 02:58:44 You got it. Listen, man, what can take your word. It's sitting, man. I take your word. You got it, bro. It's sitting. You got it. Listen, man, what can we expect from United Masters moving forward before you leave? That we're going to really make a difference in the music business. We're going to teach the next generation of artists to not sign record deals, to own their futures, own their rights, make the money, bet on themselves, and really democratize the music business. That's what I want to do. I look at all those Prince videos where he started talking about
Starting point is 02:59:09 owning your rights and right slave on his face, and people thought he was eccentric and bugging out. And you realize he was just a man who had a vision before it's time. Before it's time. And if I do my job correctly, I will definitely encapsulate all of the energy that he stood for as it relates to what the music business should be. So that's what you should expect from me.
Starting point is 02:59:31 Yeah, let that go. Two, three, four. Yeah. A million. How many artists? One million users. Yeah, so a million artists. And Joe, check out me and Joe
Starting point is 02:59:53 because Joe is standing for independence Joe's about that life Joe walked away from a big bag That's the mic drop right there. That's the mic drop right there. That's it right there. That was great. They were knocking shit over. They don't even matter at that point. Let me hug my guy, man. Nah, that was great.
Starting point is 03:00:18 That was fucking great. That was great, man. You know it's love. Thank you. I appreciate you. If you end up in Miami this weekend, let was great, man. You know it's love. Thank you. That was great, man. I appreciate you. If you end up in Miami this weekend, let me know, man.
Starting point is 03:00:29 I'm in New York and I'll call you tomorrow. I'll call you tomorrow. I'll call you two more times tomorrow. Yeah, no, call me tomorrow, man. Ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 03:00:38 round of applause. The amazing Steve Stout, thank you for joining us. Thank you for your intel, your knowledge, your experience, your years and years and years in this business, man. That was hilarious. No, that was dope.
Starting point is 03:00:52 Yeah, nah. He gave it up. He gave it up. That was dope. Yeah, Steve is hilarious. That nigga still crazy. That nigga sound like money, though. That nigga sounds like money.
Starting point is 03:01:05 Yeah. I don't even know if he knows that. Nah, he. That nigga sounds like money. Yeah. I don't even know if he knows that, but. No, he know. No, he know. I don't know if he knows. I don't know if he does. No, he know. But when we hear it, we can tell.
Starting point is 03:01:15 He sounds like money. We can tell. Like, when you say, yo, man, can you offer me a drink? The hospitality wasn't there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a real low thing, but it told you what me a drink. The hospitality wasn't there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a real low thing, but it told you what was going on. When he said,
Starting point is 03:01:29 when you asked him the question, he said, my circle doing it, so. Yeah, he said, nah, it's not applicable because my circle, Yeah, we don't apply to that. Yeah, my circle,
Starting point is 03:01:36 they can't shine on us. Right. That says a lot. That was cool, man. I appreciate Steve for stopping by. I appreciate every time we talk, especially in Miami, when I know he could be doing something much better. You just got to stay out of that part of Miami, man.
Starting point is 03:01:51 He trying to tell you where you need to be in Miami. You in the wrong Miami. Well, Steve is part of that group that, you know, when you have enough money to move somewhere so your money can make money, like all the people moved to whenever this was austin texas to try to make the new silicon valley yeah now there's a lot of black yeah that's happening now there's a lot of black millionaires moving to miami to try to form whatever they're trying to do like steve is part i i have never had that type of money i've never had access to that type of
Starting point is 03:02:19 money and to be honest i've never that type of thinking right yeah that's true like to move somewhere this this year is the first year where I've said, yo, LA is not an option for me to move because it costs me money to move there. It doesn't save me money. It's not a tax save. This was the first year I even applied my thinking that way. Before it was, oh, shit, man, if we up, then we can go to LA. It's our friends.
Starting point is 03:02:42 But that's not where it is. That's not where those dudes are. That's not how they got it. That's not what it is. That's not where those dudes are. That's not how they got it. That's not what they like. All you got to do is watch what happened before you to see how you want to move and shake. I subscribe to that. I do. In large part because of guys like Steve, Puff, Hope, Dame, Percy, Baby, whoever it was before.
Starting point is 03:03:04 So you pull what you got to pull from. And I do appreciate him stopping by. Ish, you are really funny, man. You have no idea how funny you are. And that's what's part of you being funny. You're crazy, son. It's me. Nah, it's me.
Starting point is 03:03:18 I've known you for years. You were out over. You that dude, man. I want to be like you, but you knew that. I always wanted to be like you. You knew I always wanted to be like you. What's the next topic? We're leaving.
Starting point is 03:03:30 It ain't no topics, nigga. That's it. We're playing a song. We getting the fuck out of here. That's it. Let me find a sleeper pick. This was a really good pod. A lot of information.
Starting point is 03:03:42 I really appreciate everybody. Let me try to find a record so we can get to it. This pod went exactly how I pictured pods going, man. You guys have really good conversations about really good topics. This was cool. I want to thank Steve and Stout. Steve is funny, man. Yeah, he is.
Starting point is 03:03:57 Great, bro. He's funny. If you don't hate him, you can recognize how funny he is. Especially in Miami. I need Munchie to come up here. I'm going to call Munchie to come up here, man. So that you can talk about seeing Steve. Wow.
Starting point is 03:04:10 All right, listen, man. Ish, thank you. You can't be here with us Friday, right? Fuck out of here, nigga. Why you can't party with us? Got some things to tell you. Yeah, we can party Thursday morning. Look.
Starting point is 03:04:22 Exactly. Look, look. Okay. Look. What you want me to say, man? Say whatever you have to say to that. We can party Thursday morning. Look. Exactly. Look, look. Okay. Look. What you want me to say? I'll say whatever you have to say to that. We can pod Thursday morning. Thursday, we can come sit here and record.
Starting point is 03:04:31 You can catch a flight. I have no problems. I can't do mornings. No, you can't do mornings. Oh, wait. I don't get my vaccine Thursday night. I'd have to present you guys with a contract. Then you guys can do Thursdays.
Starting point is 03:04:41 You sure? You damn right. You guys can do Thursdays. I'm for sale. If I pull this to the side. Let's be clear. Oh, guys could do Thursday I'm for sale if I pull it to the side let's be clear oh wait wait I'm for sale let's be clear this nigga's a prostitute I'm for sale I'm back hey listen yo this nigga said yo I gotta listen I got a one-year-old you understand I have a five-year-old it's different it's different you look at life different you weigh things different fiveyear-old, with a three-year-old. All right.
Starting point is 03:05:06 So that's it, man. Let me share some shit I shit to share. Oh, shit. One day, I'm going to do a whole pod about just dropping your kid off during the exchange, during the drop-off. I can't be on there. My exchanges
Starting point is 03:05:21 are a whole different level, nigga. Yo, dawg. I got videos of my exchanges. I whole different level nigga yo dog yo i got videos of my i can't relate my shit is yeah you can't thank god but it's wrong yo i have valid arguments in this stuff listen i pull up to the crib i got my baby my baby's at the age where you know where the fuck he at hey hey that nigga hit the window power deep
Starting point is 03:05:48 alright mom crib where we at with it here she come downstairs alright I'm happy to see you my baby happy to see you let me bring my baby over there to you and have a quick
Starting point is 03:06:00 three minute talk about whatever's going on in life that I may have missed cause we not really kicking it. Because we broke up. Right. But in this moment, for five minutes, we should be able to talk.
Starting point is 03:06:12 I bring the baby over. They run over, hug his mom. Here she go. Yo, I'm in a rush. I got to go upstairs. Nigga, we don't talk. What y'all got to talk about? When?
Starting point is 03:06:24 Y'all broke up. Hey, let me tell you. She said something like that, and I got hot at the door of her house. See, what we had to talk about, nigga? I ain't got to talk to you about nothing. Excuse me? Excuse me? Excuse me?
Starting point is 03:06:39 We had sex. You don't have to talk to me about what? Nothing. I'm the nigga you fucked to get him here. Who you ain't got to talk to? I wish you fucked me. If it ain't about him, she ain't have to talk to me about what? Nothing. I'm the nigga you fucked to get him here. Who you ain't got to talk to? I wish you fuck A. I know. I know. That nigga running back to the escalator to come to daddy house. Fuck is you talking about? We got to talk.
Starting point is 03:06:53 What's happening? I'm done with you, man. I'm playing a song. Yeah, please play the record. They gonna kill you. I love you, Sin. Nobody's a better team than us. You already see how we giving it up out here. Partial ain't got kids. Shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 03:07:13 You don't know shit. I'm playing the Vanessa Williams version of the Isley Brothers song I started the pod with. It's called Work To Do because we got work to do. Job ain't never done. Vanessa Williams, talk to these niggas, man. Wait a minute. She always neglects me. I gotta make it for you, and I gotta make it for me Cause I'm down the street, boy, I'm neglecting you When I talk, spend more time, I got so many things to do I, I got work to do, I got a job to do
Starting point is 03:08:03 I got work to do, I got a job to do. I got a job to do. I got a job to do. I got a job to do. I got a job to do. Wait a minute. It's cool. Y'all wasn't outside. I was recording KC Kasem's Top 40 at 40. This song wasn't being played.
Starting point is 03:08:19 I'm educating y'all right now. I'm sorry. This is Vanessa Williams' work to do. This is a Is work to do. This is the Isley Brothers cover. Hey. Yes. Love like burning, oh you gotta have a little space You might as well get used to, me coming home a little late I, I got work to do
Starting point is 03:08:54 I got work to do I got a job to do I got work to do I got work to do Baby I got work to do. I got work to do. Yeah, I got work to do. Hey, hey, hey. If you're listening out there, don't worry. I'm cutting this off before the verse comes on, but it's a vibe right now. Instrumentation, pianos, all of that type shit. I need to hear that.
Starting point is 03:09:21 Oh, I got work to do. I got work to do. I got work to do. I got work to do. I got work to do. I got work to do. I got work to do. I got work to do, I got a job bitch I got work to do, I got a job bitch And a one, and a two, and a less And a two, and a one, and a two, and a less And a one, and a two, and a less
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Starting point is 03:09:48 All of this. All of this. All of this. All of this. All of this. All of this. You the man now. Park's nice. Get on the mic for the symphony. I'm brazen. Let that shit ride, 88.
Starting point is 03:10:10 I'm with it. Don't even turn it up and let them hear my pain Richer than the fuck, but it don't heal my pain Money came by you happiness, seen it came by your love Money came by you happiness, but it came by your growth Spills and dollar bills Last night he got so high, he done blew his brains out Got him cashin' like a fast load Who told you you was perfect? You should try and get a grip He got so high, he done done blew his brains out Don't catch love, love, think about Who told you you was perfect?
Starting point is 03:10:48 You should try and get a grip If I told you I was perfect, I'd be lying like a bitch Don't wanna do no shows or rap no songs He tired of that shit In the bathroom by himself Hiding a bitch You're fresher than a motherfucker Low key
Starting point is 03:11:01 You're stressing like a motherfucker And he's flyer than a motherfucker, not only that He higher than a motherfucker, low-level fat Fucker labor in they games, he a slave in they chains They get champagne when it rain, they took his pain to the bank He be all up in his feelings when him and his bitch don't get along At least if he leave rappin', he can have a happy home And he tryin' to be strong, but he showin' that he not so Truth be told, y'all, that he got I watched my cousin smoke crack his whole fuckin' life
Starting point is 03:11:31 Fennel hit the street and he OD'd the same night Go and turn it up and let him hear my pain Richer than a fuck, but it don't hit my mind Money came by you happenin', seen it came by your love Money came by you happenin', but it came by you happiness Teenage came by your love Money came by you happiness Money came by your girl Spills And dollar bills Last night he got so high He done that blew his brains out
Starting point is 03:11:55 Don't cash and diein' fast That's all Wave, Pills and Bills, off his album, which is called Soul Fly. Really good album, man. That's the new album? Yeah, it's really good. There was like four songs I wanted to play off here. Shout out to Rob Wave. I didn't hear the album yet, but I'm really happy for what he sold,
Starting point is 03:12:15 his single, just the mark he's making out there. Yeah, he's doing a stand-up. I'm going to check it out. Whoa, what's that there? Sources say a metal pipe and a knife among the evidence at drake's house a security officer was allegedly physically attacked but the female did not make it inside the mansion or even into the property seven tpso uh tps operations cars responded and one parademic vehicle paramedic I'm sorry paramedic I can't read
Starting point is 03:12:48 details on a woman trying to break into Drake's mansion with a knife how she was able to bust a security guard over the head with a pipe Drake is that level of superstar so this is not shocking I really wish more attention
Starting point is 03:13:04 would have been paid when it was announced that a crazed stalker tried to break into Eminem's house while he was present and sleep. Yeah. He saw the dude in the kitchen or some shit, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:13:14 Yeah. That was, that was, yeah, it was a guy. It was a man that M had security everywhere. He needed to have it. And they were sleeping.
Starting point is 03:13:24 And the dude came in, M saw M alerted security. They took care of it, and they were asleep. I believe they— And the dude came in, M saw, M alerted security. They took care of it, and that was the end of the issue. But it wasn't as big of a story as you would think it should be because of how bad it could have turned out. And here you go with Drake now. Right. Had this happened to Drake, this would have been a much larger,
Starting point is 03:13:40 much larger story, and we don't never need this. We talk about Pop smoke losing his life because he maybe potentially left his address out publicly somebody like drake don't have to do that you live in the embassy that's your house everybody in toronto knows where it is uh you're subject to this type of treatment this type of invasion at all times um thank god that he's all right thank god nobody was injured um hopefully the the police captured this person and they did what they had to do did y'all see the video in the atlanta airport uh it was a fight that broke out of the atlanta and the dude pulled the cop pulled out the taser gun, laid everybody down. He let it down. He let that shit go, bro.
Starting point is 03:14:26 But my question was, if that taser gun has that effect that I saw in that video at the airport. I know where you're going. Why don't they use that? He laid five fighting men down in about two seconds. Right. So instead of shooting people, why are you just not tasing them? Yeah. And it had the debilitating effect that it had.
Starting point is 03:14:44 Look at this shit. Why shouldn't we shoot? Watch the cop. Watch the cop. Look, had the debilitating effect that it had. Look at this shit. Watch the cop. Watch the cop. Look, he getting it on. We getting it on. Ah, ah, ah. Ah, ah. You know the vibes.
Starting point is 03:14:51 We getting to it. Here go yellow gun. No bullets. Nobody's dying. But everybody's laying down and gathering themselves for a few minutes. Check my man with the bag, though. No, I'm not missing my flight. He still want to fight.
Starting point is 03:15:02 Excuse me. You can't get up. No, no, no. Excuse me. You can't get up. Hey, nigga, sit there. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? This is the bag, though. I'm not missing my fight. He still want to fight, but you can't get up. No, no, no. Excuse me. You can't get up. Hey, nigga, sit there. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:15:08 This is in Atlanta, man. And so that means that it's inexcusable when y'all start shooting people when you have other means to debilitate them. I mean, we know what that is. That's crazy. We all smart here. Well, 1,000%. The same way we know what it is when we see all these details emerge from Derek Chauvin
Starting point is 03:15:24 trial. The murderer of George Floyd. That trial is happening as we speak. I'm not going to tell anybody how to feel or what I think is going to occur. You see the jury. You got eyes. You got eyes. You got a brain.
Starting point is 03:15:40 You read the jury. Yeah. If you see the jury. Oh, my God. See the jury. Oh, my God. There's nothing else that needs to be said. You see the jury. Yeah. If you see the jury. Oh, my God. See the jury. Oh, my God. It's horrible. There's nothing else that needs to be said.
Starting point is 03:15:47 You see the jury. You're worried. No, not all white. Mostly white. Mostly white. Go back. Three blacks. Go back.
Starting point is 03:15:56 One in their 50s. Two in their 30s. Other people mixed. Other people white. Right there. Here we go. Juror number. Oh, no.
Starting point is 03:16:04 They don't even tell us. The other one has the breakdown, I'm sorry. It's only about three black jurors. Everyone else is white, mixed, so forth and so on. We've seen this movie before. I don't need to get into it.
Starting point is 03:16:14 There's nothing to talk about here. As sad as it is. Did everyone play a sleeper? No. You two played. Who's missing? Me and then Ish. Get your shit off.
Starting point is 03:16:21 All right, cool. I'm going back down to Atlanta. I got to stay with the streets. I don't do that. You don't want to be the next Justin LaVoy. You scared to death. Go ahead. Nah, man.
Starting point is 03:16:27 My Atlanta pass is good now. The homies said, yo, you good out here now. If they touch Justin LaVoy, they'll touch ice. But they don't have no reason to touch ice. So anyway, I'm going with Rallo. This is fame off of, he did a deluxe addition to the Conspiracy album that he dropped. You know, Rallo. Rallo's not out of jail, right?
Starting point is 03:16:45 Yes, Rallo's out. Shut up. No, Rallo's out. You're a liar. No, Rallo's out. Who said that? He's out. That's announced?
Starting point is 03:16:51 Yes. I follow Rallo. I didn't see nothing from him. Rallo was released a couple months ago. Oh, he trying to lay low. Got it. But yeah, he's out. Congratulations to Rallo.
Starting point is 03:17:00 I fuck with him. Yes, absolutely. I fuck with him. Good fam. I fuck with Rallo. His music is dope. This is fame off of the Conspiracy Deluxe. I pray I make it out this year.
Starting point is 03:17:16 So they put me back in this. If you know what I'm talking about. Congratulations. I had no idea you were out. Rollo. I'm happy for you. Fam. Boom. Woo. These niggas tellin' and makin' it hard I pray to Lord we'll make it tomorrow
Starting point is 03:17:31 My bitch a lawyer, she gon' take the charge How we so solid, but makin' a nod We makin' noise that they can't ignore I told my mama, sit back and enjoy I bought her everything I can afford She tell me work it because she get bored I put my bitch in the sauna If she forgot, I bought her everything I can afford She tell me work it because she get bored I put my bitch in the sauna And she forgot I remind her
Starting point is 03:17:48 I think that money done blind her He got his niggas behind her I told you real niggas never give up I see them answers and I'm from the club They put me in cuffs, that wasn't enough Everyone fucked on that bitch that I love I used to cry when I thought about it I thought my people forgot about me
Starting point is 03:18:05 They tried to fire me, now I'm the hottest I got more knowledge than niggas in college Remember me, nigga, I came from the project My niggas in style, it don't make us get violent They try me, I don't gon' catch up at it Look at these bitches, they cannot deny it See, we're with the niggas, trying to find us a way And we finally made it, now niggas hate it I guess I'm part of the gang, but for the girl, and them niggas hating I guess I'm part of the gang, yeah Try to go like nothing changed, yeah
Starting point is 03:18:29 Watch us and the cops change, yeah I'm just being me and us, we the same And I want what come with the fame I want what come with the fame I want what come with the fame I want what come with the fame All of the problems, the pain, the business, the cars, the chain I want what come with the fame They put some dirt on my name
Starting point is 03:18:53 That shit was lame but I never complained I want it back but it's never the same I want it back but it's never the same I got on track and I never look back I told myself that you better than that I went from serving that crack to serving them packs Now my show gon' forever be back I got some niggas that die about me I told them haters that God got me Oh, I bought it, oh, I bought it I promise niggas don't know about me
Starting point is 03:19:17 I fell in love with my bitch I did not never know lovin' exists I know they forgot but I never forget I told them real ones ain't never gon' quit I got some dollars I never forgot them I'm always inside them, I'm never gon' doubt them I got desires that I'ma retire These niggas be liars, they all in denial I got that fire, you don't need a lighter I'm at the top but I'm tryna get higher I bought my bitch a new whip with the title I'm tryna make more money than my idol And remember them days,, tryna find us a way And we findin' the man, now niggas hate it
Starting point is 03:19:50 I guess it's part of the game, yo Try to call it nothing, change up Watch us and it's called the change up I'm just being me and no shit assignment I want what's wrong with the fine I want what's wrong with the fine I owe you. I owe you. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. It's okay. Give me shit.
Starting point is 03:20:07 I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call.
Starting point is 03:20:08 I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call.
Starting point is 03:20:10 I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call.
Starting point is 03:20:11 I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call.
Starting point is 03:20:12 I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call.
Starting point is 03:20:12 I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I owe you a call. I love Killers.
Starting point is 03:20:26 Sorry. Are we mad that they live their raps? Or do we want the niggas that don't live their raps? Stop potting. Stop potting. Hey, you have to stop potting. I'ma chill. No more potting. You relax. Does anyone else have a sleeper?
Starting point is 03:20:42 If you want me to play the major. Come on, play some Chico the Bars, nigga. Shut up. Now I'm going to play the Mace shit. All right, he wanted all. There we go. There we go. Turned up for you.
Starting point is 03:20:53 I can't believe how you switched up when Steve was in here. I didn't switch up. I'm not going to tell you nothing. I didn't switch up. Duke is not better than Mace. Yes, he is. He would win a versus against Mace. He's better than Mace.
Starting point is 03:21:03 Not better than Mace. He's been better than Mace. He's not better than Mace. He is. Now, he don't want to say it. He's not better than Mace. That person is not better than Mace. Yes, he is. He would win a versus against Mace. He's better than Mace. He's been better than Mace. He's not better than Mace. He is. He don't want to say it. He's not better than Mace. That person is not better than Mace. Yes, he is. You're crazy. Are you crazy? No, you're not crazy. He's crazy, but he's tainted. We know this. He would win a versus against
Starting point is 03:21:17 Mace because he would win a versus against a lot of people. He's not a better rapper than Mace. He's better than Mace. When Mace said pow pow, I didn't hear him um so go ahead yo mace said pow pow the way joe be saying pow pow pow pow leave joe alone before i decide to get a pen cheat on you i'm not listening if i get a pen and rap then what happens exactly everybody retreats you don't rap no more i know but if he did you would retreat you know what he does with words you see what i do with that on a pod like imagine if it wasn't no pod be clear no no rappers are worried about you right now good they're not i'm just i'm not trying to they're not good they should you
Starting point is 03:21:55 out of shape they shouldn't be they haven't heard anything in ages absolutely i don't think they should be they should believe in their ability to crush a guy that they haven't heard from in ages right some of you, though. No, they know. They're not worried. Do you have a sleeper? Yeah, yeah. You have a sleeper? We talked about cheating.
Starting point is 03:22:11 Wait, I ain't the sleeper. Yeah, intro it, man. Intro it. There you go. It's your shit. We talked about it. Nah, it's your record. You never experienced cheating, right?
Starting point is 03:22:19 Well, introduce the record at least. It's never cheated, y'all. Yeah, ever. But if he cheated, he would feel like this. Yeah, that's how it is. Stupid, y'all. Yeah, yeah. If you're going to hit niggas, girl,
Starting point is 03:22:32 just expect niggas to hit your girl. And that's it. Don't try to have me say if she had what you want. You a witchy. Why would she? Why would she cheat on you? Hey, listen. You a witchy Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy X know not to speak, she is all good and it's all sweet All women flirt, all women cheat, so I might spend a week Down in Virginia Beach, out of inner sheets, blaze twenty feet
Starting point is 03:23:11 She the bad boy everybody wanna meet, practice what I preach Never caught one of the chiefs, if I ain't work late I say I was with my peeps, I'm quick to tell a ho yo I ain't get the beef, and all these girls is quite the same So it ain't your pencil, it's how you write your name, huh? I got what you want, I got what you want I got what you want, I got what you want
Starting point is 03:23:35 I got what you want, I got what you want I got what you want, I got what you want I got what you want, I got what you want I got what you want, I got what you want I ain't nobody hotter than the jam down dollar Period, period all the money Never been the one that chick lie to Got a brother, and yo' C's got a girl And he ain't in no world, not in no world
Starting point is 03:23:57 Based on what? He never sold more records than Mase He never rhymed more words than Mase He wasn't on no bigger single than Mase What makes you think this dude is a faggot? His discography is better than Mase's That's a fact But he's not a better rapper than Mase That's why I'm fine Where the hell Mase came out and said rap with me?
Starting point is 03:24:15 He'll turn his up in the headphones? Don't worry about it We'll talk about it on Patreon Oh, won't you cheat on you? Whoa, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, with, ma? His jigger, you know the rules Ice is flowin', baby, night's the door It's the size of four, yeah, I'm cool And I don't think for your second time Cause your only hit chicks that you make is mine You know I hate a zoo, but I'm unfaithful Mommy, sweet, and poppy, can I skate with you? They wanna ride with me, say fly with me
Starting point is 03:24:58 Wanna help me get rid of my rivalries Wanna be the Ebony, took my ivory But I'm straight, though, thanks, ma Only chase, took my ivory But I'm straight though thanks ma Only chase though We can lay for the night but In the morning I get Shirley Murdoch I hope you throw a slam lock I'm gone Hey, Masajidistic Hov told Shorty he was mature because he would go bowling with her. Nigga, Masajidistic Hov told Shorty, get your independent ass out of here. Hey, hey. That's funny. We could go bowling.
Starting point is 03:25:32 It ain't like before. Now we can go bowling. Thanks, Hov. That nigga's crazy, man. Oh, man. Oh, shit. Everybody went, right? Yeah, you fucking right.
Starting point is 03:25:44 Unless somebody else got something to say. Nah, we out of here. It's over. Let me do this for the legendary. One year anniversary for the death of Bill Withers, man. We don't like celebrating death. Rest in peace to Bill Withers. One of the most sampled artists in the history of hip hop.
Starting point is 03:26:02 Arguably one of the greatest songs ever made. A lovely day man talk to him when i wake up in the morning i appreciate y'all man this was a really good pod and the sunlight hurts my eyes good pod good vibes good people good energy good frequency good vibrations man hey listen i appreciate y'all If you can't count on your friends when you need them Then who can you count on? Who can you count on, goddammit? You right about that one And the world's alright with me
Starting point is 03:26:34 Yo, we outta here, keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there Just one look at you Until the next time I bid you adieu Arrivederci, adios, so long, goodbye All of that good shit Until the next time I bid you adieu, arrivederci, adios, so long, goodbye. All of that good shit. Do remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass.
Starting point is 03:26:56 Moments pass, moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. I fuck with y'all. Thank y'all for joining us. Thank you to Ish. Thank you to Ice, Alex, Corey, Savon, E-Rab, Parks. I appreciate y'all Thank y'all for joining us Thank you to Ish Thank you to Ice Alex Corey Savon E-Rab Parks
Starting point is 03:27:07 I appreciate y'all And rest in peace Bill Withers man You the GOAT We'll be here same time Same place On the weekend Ayy
Starting point is 03:27:21 Thank you to Steve Stout We appreciate you Wait a minute! And then I look at you And the world's alright with me Just one look at you Ayy And I know it's gonna be
Starting point is 03:27:42 Ayy 100 minutes And I know it's gonna be Hey I'm a runnin' Y'all hold it down out there, man Shout out to the first and last time listeners Shout out to everybody that's rockin' with us Through this difficult time Shout out to everybody that's been there from day one Shout out to the Patreon niggas that's ridin' Shout out to the entrepreneurs Shout out to the single ladiesiggas that's riding. Shout out to the entrepreneurs.
Starting point is 03:28:05 Shout out to the single ladies and the women with boyfriends that we fuck anyway. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. Seems impossible to face. Let's go, Bill. Parks E.
Starting point is 03:28:20 Y'all gonna figure out the edits and all that. For our Patreon stuff, we good? We all right? Yeah. Savon E. I mean, not E. Alice, y'all gon' figure out the edits and all that For our Patreon stuff, we good? We alright? Then I look at you Savon E, I mean I E Alice, y'all good? And the world's alright
Starting point is 03:28:31 Y'all ain't quit the network, right? Y'all need to have a private talk with me Make sure everything is good Y'all are happy? Y'all alright? Can you make enough to pay the rent? The first is coming I'm asking, I don't know
Starting point is 03:28:42 You niggas can leave I don't know, I'd be sad What you wanna do? Hey! Hey! We out of here, man. Y'all hold it down. Rest in peace, Bill Withers.
Starting point is 03:28:57 Rest in peace, Stuart Scott. Rest in peace, Juice WRLD, Matt Miller, Fred the Godson Pop Smoke Nitsy Hustle Rest in peace everybody We love y'all man Love my life Ay Ay Ay
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Starting point is 03:29:40 Maybe not the same people, but but comes with the territory everybody thank you we'll talk to y'all this weekend shout out to our guys Rory and Maul and we gone No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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