The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 441 | "The Gig is the Gig"
Episode Date: May 26, 2021On this episode: Joe recaps his fun filled weekend at the park (17:30) and a wild few weeks in media, including the reemergence of Kwame Brown and the apologies he won’t accept (33:55). Joe sheds li...ght on his Spotify rants (44:35) and speaks to last year’s smear campaign as well as Charlamagne appearing to devalue him (46:20). The JBP discusses the upcoming Bow Wow/Soulja Boy Verzuz battle (1:23:00), the Billboard Music Awards, who had the best run in music, and Shannon Sharpe calling Julio Jones about his future plans in the NFL. The NBA Playoffs, Omarion vs. Trey Songz, and MORE! For more exclusive content: become a Patron of the The Joe Budden Podcast at www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Portrait - “Here We Go Again!” Ish | Grand Puba - “360” Ice | Z-Ro - “Not a Rapper” Parks | Dark Lo & Harry Fraud - “Vultures” (Ft. Ar-Ab)
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I'll just find it as we go.
I'll be like this?
You'll be shaking in your boots.
Yeah.
You'll be shaking in your Iversons.
I don't even have it.
I was on it.
Oh, okay.
Well.
Damn, you're not loyal.
Damn, you're not loyal.
Fam, you can't be serious.
That's pandering.
Of course.
As soon as the record button is hit.
Of course.
I'll just respect him.
I'll just respect him.
Hey, we had a good little topic cooking while I was looking for a song.
I made the announcement.
This is no longer a music podcast.
None of us.
I'm so glad I don't have to keep up this front anymore.
I don't care about music.
I don't care about you niggas albums.
I don't care about you niggas songs.
I don't care.
You got your two albums you want.
And that's it.
That's it.
I'm waiting on SZA.
I'm waiting on Aubrey.
J. Cole gave me mine.
Kendrick will come whenever you feel like it.
Anybody else?
I'll hear it when I'm out.
At the hookah spot, at the lounge, the halal spot.
My son will tell me.
Wait, they play music at the halal spot?
My little brothers might, huh?
They play music at the halal spot?
I'm sure there'll be somebody with a little speaker on the side.
Melodies.
Jamming it up. Yeah, I'll hear it. I'll hear it. Everybody trying to rush their'll be somebody with a little speaker on the side. Melodies. Jamming it up.
Yeah, I don't hear it.
I don't hear anybody
trying to rush their music out
and see what's going on, man.
It's cool.
It's cool.
It's cool.
Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
Do, do, do, do.
What are we starting with, man?
Why black men can't love
white women publicly.
I meant what song,
but okay, cool. Oh. Hello? Why black men can't love white women publicly I meant what song But okay cool
Hello
Hello
Anybody out there
Hello
Hello
Was I muted
Was that another one of those things
I said in my head that came out
Yeah
Yeah we all heard that one
Listen we ain't talk about it.
Who dude that got the head coaching job at UNC?
We ain't talk about it.
Hubert Davis.
That's my man.
Was that Hubert Davis?
That's my man.
And that was a foul, Scotty Pippen.
That was a foul.
That was a foul.
I don't care.
I don't care.
I don't care if it's fucking 21 minus 14.
Carry the
17.
I don't care if it was
17 years ago. That was a foul. Hubert Davis
took the UNC job and he got up there
and nobody asked him, is somebody's phone
ringing? There's only one person with that ring's on.
There's only one person.
It's only one person.
Your dog.
Your dog.
They don't have a silent option on that Android?
No.
Look, they don't even store names in the phone.
That's how you know you're a different type of boyfriend.
He don't store no names.
It's nothing but numbers that pop up.
Your girl is cool with that?
Bro, what are you talking about?
Is she cool with that?
Is your girl cool with you not saving any numbers?
I have numbers saved.
This particular number is not.
Mom and baby.
Mom.
You got any emojis next to her?
Next to your girl?
Hey, Ice.
Never mind.
That's a good question, Ish.
Do I have emojis?
No, I don't.
Mom made me put one.
Mine too.
Same.
Which one you got?
Me?
Yeah.
The hearty one.
Yeah, I got an extra heart
like with the
little pizzazz on it.
The sparkly one?
Yeah, that's the one.
I got two of those.
Because if you let a woman...
Jesus, help me.
Not really the time
to start this way, but I will. Because if you let a woman oh not really the time to start this way but i will because if you let a woman just
insert woman thoughts in like a space that should be only for man thoughts like my brain my phone
sometimes and my phone and my phone my phone is but yeah you're right absolutely right yeah
they might start making sense so like she her name was her name in my phone.
That's me.
Everybody gave me the government name.
That's your name.
I even got middle names of mine.
And when she started arguing her case as to why her name shouldn't actually be her name,
it was like, all right, fine.
All right.
So what was her argument, though?
I'm not like the rest of them.
Yeah, she's baby now.
I'm asking.
Time out, Parks.
No, I'm asking.
We, for five minutes straight, have tried to get Ish to cop us anything.
No, no, no, no.
Any info.
But I'm not sharing with you.
I'm not coming at you.
I was asking.
I know you're not coming at me, but I'm not sharing with you if you won't share with me.
I have to set new boundaries in my relationships, friendships, both platonic and romantic phones.
Yes, it's true.
It's true.
Yeah, Yuba Davis got up there.
Nobody asked him.
And he said, I'm proud of my wife, my white wife.
And he said that, too.
Maybe he's proud, you know, happily married.
What's the problem? Got a noise. happily married. What's the problem?
I don't know.
All right.
Is that all there is?
All right.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
I know what be going on.
We be having the most jam fun packed car rides over as soon as these mics come on.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
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Don't even worry about it you guys
Y'all don't have to talk about a thing
I'm used to that too
Mic check, it's getting hot outside
Talk soon
I don't need nobody else around
See love the way you
Compromise my style
Though you may end up being my only girl
Cause when you're with me
You're my whole world
Like when it just
Oh, and I'm here, B2K is piecing it up behind the scenes
Uh-oh, who's ready to run out to that screen tour?
Don't worry about it, don't worry about it.
I'm just going to ask myself a bunch of questions today.
That's what we're doing here.
Wait a minute!
Wait a minute!
Wait a minute!
Wait a minute!
Wait a minute!
Wait a minute! And I don't want nothing coming between both me and you And I'll let you be lieutenant And you let me be captain
Tell me if that's cool
Memorial Day weekend coming up
Shout out to everybody having cookouts
Shout out to all the truck drivers out there
All the foot action workers, the stock boys
The realtors, real estate agents, the carpenters, all that shit
Niggas is outside
Foot action's being closed down
Yeah, it is
Along with Barney's
Barney's already closed
I know, look at you, you wouldn't know, rich ass nigga, shut up
Hey Barney's already close I know Look at you You wouldn't know Rich ass nigga Shut up Hey
Is today Wednesday or Saturday?
Wednesday
Just checking
You know I don't have wifi
I don't know what day it is
Let's hear it. Shh, because it's cool how it is. Let's not complicate the meaning.
Ooh.
Shout out to Kevin Ross as well.
That's how I'm giving it up.
Frequencies high, vibrations high, keep the energy high.
Hold up, wait a minute before we take this to the living.
Want to make sure that you're in
Can't be the only one that gets us through
All the time we'll help us see it
But you got to believe it
You know that love can change like seasons
But being you is so good
But who was it built in again?
I wanna shout out to all of y'all in my Insta DMs that are trying to keep me accountable with a no sugar diet.
I never said I was actually on a no sugar diet.
You nosy bastards.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
I need friends that encourage me, not belittle me and hide it behind jokes.
No, no, I don't want to hear.
I don't want to hear.
If it's not support and it's not encouragement, then I don't want to hear it. If it's not support and it's not
encouragement, then I don't want to hear it.
Don't say you're a friend.
I'm not going to let you.
I'm not going to let you.
I'm not going to let you. Da da da da da da. First you're hitting it, this will be like it's magic, yeah.
Sitting there waiting like we in traffic, yeah.
Like a roller coaster, just move it backwards, yeah.
Come on, we got a vibe to do.
He cooking in the second verse, though.
Try to find another, but I can't lie.
Hey, single ladies.
We're going to be somewhere when we get this act.
OK.
That's how into your relationships y'all are
Y'all don't even look around when somebody
Say single ladies
Yo can I get a
Fucking podcast full of men
Jesus Mary
Joseph
Shut up don't talk now that the hook is on
Nigga we here Don't talk now that the hook is on, nigga. We here. Look at some brass, actually.
The brass is good.
Man, we're going to beat these everywhere.
441.
Microphone check. one, two, what is this?
Welcome to episode 441 of the Joe Budden Podcast He is I and I am him, here with a few really good guys
Brother Parks is here, Alex is here, E-Rab is here
Ish is here, Ice is here, Savon is here, Corey is here
Gentlemen, how's everybody feeling
How's everybody doing
What's going on
How's your mental health
T
I'm great
I'm fantastic
Check this out
I don't care
I don't care how none of y'all are
I don't really give a fuck
Why you asking us
Because it's like
Don't be fake friend
I feel like if something's really going on
And y'all need me
And you need to share
Then somebody will reach out
Somebody tell Corey.
Somebody tell somebody
that's near me.
That's what we do
is go to Corey.
He'll tell Joe I'm sad.
He'll tell Joe
I'm fucked up in the head.
Now that's part of
one of the realizations
I've come to
over the past few weeks.
You niggas are never
going to tell me anything.
The days of me
getting around people
that's just going to
tell me things,
it's over for that.
And that's cool.
I'm clear on that.
As long as y'all have
somebody to call when you want to tell me something i'm down perfectly all right with that
um and i take that back you you two gentlemen would tell me something maybe parks uh but i'm
also asking about uh you guys's mental health because this is the one year mark since the brutal horrific murder of george floyd by officer derrick chauvin
supposedly public servant of the people derrick chauvin derrick chauvin whose
salary is paid by taxpayer dollars derrick chauvin who was supposed to be there to protect and serve Derek Chauvin who passed all
types of tests exams and protocol to get this job in the first place only to enact his fucking rage
and horror that we all had to watch Derek Chvin, who put his knee on somebody's neck
for over nine minutes.
Derek Chauvin, who wants his charge changed.
Just in case we were unclear on who Derek Chauvin is.
Well, I just want to, because you referred to him as a murderer.
Yeah, I was going to say, let's call him what he is.
Violent.
Racist. Convicted murderer.
Cowardly.
Punk.
I got a lot of other words.
No, yeah, some other
shit we could...
That was the clean version of
what I wanted to call him.
I don't think that he would have been so manly without his gun or his police belt.
I agree.
I don't think that would have went like that.
The same for what's homeboy that killed Trayvon Martin.
George Zimmerman.
Zimmerman, another one.
I don't think he would have been so tough without his
without his
I mean that's just how I feel
so punk is what
came to mind
I agree
the clean PC version
of that
again rest in peace
George Floyd
we love you
we miss you
prayers
thoughts
condolences
to your
fans
family
friends
loved ones
and children
children children is important,
that's the part that always fucks me up when we get to these stories, is the kids, the kids,
and it's been a year, it's been a year, and there have been over 900 murders by police since just in case we were unclear of where we are times we're living in
texas just announced they have a state gun a state gun yeah google it pull it up
it looked like some racist gun are you serious which and then when i thought about that it made
me mad because i know so many black people are moving
to Texas for the tax
purposes but it's like
boy they lure us
to kill us
where's that gun
where's that gun
the state gun
just announced
boy you slow
when you come over here
did you read that
other one
Texas poised to
legalize
guns without a
permit
yes
you don't even need that That's where I was going.
Next. Jack Freeman
shot to Jack posted something about they're trying to
introduce legislation that basically
disallows teachers
in the education system from talking about
racial issues and things of that nature.
Bro, in Texas they passed
this like 10 years ago.
They passed a law where they took the word
slavery out of all the textbooks
it's called indentured servitude they took the word slavery out of the textbooks indentured
servitude involuntary servitude involuntary yeah so again just imagine if you did that over a course
of 50 years the word slavery now gets erased from United States history.
If all the textbooks in all the states followed suit.
Just imagine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Be great if they could erase it from our present.
Talk about our history books.
That's crazy.
Oh, man.
Yeah, it's been a year. It's been a year it's been a year
black people stay strong we strong be strong stay strong we're gonna keep saying it we're
gonna keep saying it we have to keep feeling it i feel for his family that has to relive it
that's that's the bad part about being such a a national story is that man for families and
friends that are in pain and grieving shout out to anybody out
there that might be in pain and grieving i start i start there so i it's important for me to say
how's everybody doing and how's everybody's mental health for reasons like this because of what we
have to consume also part of me repairing repairing a mistake i asked that mad years on this pod and
was and didn't really know
what was going on
so I just want to
delve deeper into it.
Are y'all alright?
Also,
rest in peace to Chi Modu.
Yes.
Super legendary photographer.
He shot everybody.
Yeah,
I read about it on the ground.
Beautiful,
beautiful photographs.
I'm not sure how he does.
54 years old.
54 years old.
I don't think that was announced
or has been announced.
Oh, it says says He was battling cancer
It says he was battling cancer
We'll wait till that story's official
But
Rest in peace
Rest in peace
54 is so young
Yeah
So young
Yeah man
I'm dealing with a loss of my damn self
Just lost a 58 year old uncle
Two days ago
Sorry to hear that.
Yeah, your uncle's cool, too.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
Cool dude.
Rest in peace to your uncle.
Indeed.
It's my man.
It's my monopoly.
You know what I mean?
You know.
He ran from that space smoke, though.
I remember that.
I remember that.
You know, Pop started talking. Oh, though. I remember that. I remember that. You and Pop started talking.
Oh, yeah.
Sure enough.
You couldn't get that space partner to come up.
I think he played with somebody that was there.
He played one time.
Yeah, but he played with, it wasn't his partner.
They never came back.
Niggas don't come back when me and my dad get to play in space, man.
Rest in peace to y'all.
Go ask my man.
Again, shout out to anybody That's grieving and in pain
It's a lot
It's a lot going on out there
Let's keep spirits high
Let's keep the energy high
Let's do our best
To keep the vibrations high
Mercury's retrograding
Honey, honey
Deep breath
Silence Sage Cool Deep breath.
Silence.
Sage.
Cool.
Okay.
Now, how's everybody doing?
E-Rab, you good?
Alex, good?
You good?
Come on, you good?
You good?
I'm good.
What?
I'm good.
I'm real good.
Men don't ever like shit.
Joe, how are you?
You sad?
Nigga asked me, motherfucker. I just did.
I just did. I'm awesome. I had a really good weekend me too see actually let me give it up the way i'd be expecting for
it to be given well park's funny you should ask it was 90 all weekend it was wonderful i felt
really really good uh i had my baby uh on the weekends that i have my baby it's like I come out of it feeling really, really, really good.
So Sunday, I took my baby to the park.
Oh, nice.
I took my baby to the park.
I put him on the swings.
He ran around.
Let me know how out of shape I was having to chase a three-year-old around a park.
They do whatever they want.
They don't stop.
They do what they want.
Like he said, they do not stop.
And then another kid started running by.
We didn't even know this little nigga.
My kid started running with him.
It's like, yo, where you going?
Now that kid mom looking over at me.
I'm smoking a cig.
Can't even smoke on the playground.
Can you believe that?
I'm joking, by the way.
But anyway, so I ran around with him, right?
But on the way over there, I passed the basketball court.
Okay.
It was packed. Yeah. They tend to be. the basketball court. Okay. It was packed.
Yeah.
They tend to be.
At 90 degrees.
Yeah.
See?
Let me take my hoodie off.
That 90 degrees just reminded you that fast.
Sometimes you get so caught up with living life that you forget about the small things that bring you joy and happiness.
You forget about the little things.
I didn't know shooting hoops made you that happy.
I'm black, Parks.
How are you?
I'm white and I enjoy shooting hoops.
Black men, what we used to do, and somewhere along with rapping and drugs and women, I
lost track of,
I used to really enjoy going to the park and just kicking it with guys.
Strange guys from all different projects,
different areas,
different walks of life.
That's a podcast.
I'm serious.
Nah, for real, for real.
Yeah, listen,
we were sitting here talking with Kevin Samuels
about where can men just talk?
The basketball court is a place
that men can just talk.
So I put my face to the window
of the truck
like a fucking dog in heat
because I had my kid with me.
I couldn't go over there.
He would have ran in the street,
got hit by a car,
so I didn't go over there.
But I dropped his little ass off
and Monday,
right back over there,
Monday,
I took a nap.
Two o'clock.
Then I was ready to hit the park.
Went in my closet.
Opened up the drawer.
You put the on-shooter sleeve on?
Took out the Olavs.
But these Olavs.
You two had said guys, the Olavs.
But these was the John
Elliott Olavs. they wasn't like the old
like the
these was like designer
and I felt bad
you're not hearing me
you asked me this shit
listen I asked you
how you're weak
and what you ain't want to talk
I'm talking about mine now
nigga don't ask me
what I'm talking about
I went to grab some shorts
and I realized
I didn't really have
any more basketball shorts
like that
a bunch of Lululemon
bullshit right
and then I got a little down.
But I kept trucking.
I looked for some sneakers.
No basketball sneakers.
I didn't have anything.
I was about to say, what you called 2000?
Not one pair.
Not one pair.
Not one pair.
I don't know what you had on your feet.
When I went out there, I landed on something I had no business wearing.
You had them Balenciagas.
I had them low top
white, gray, and orange
Nikes with the
I'll show you a picture.
I don't know the name of it.
Something that's supposed to be fancy.
It wasn't basketball.
Not at all.
I went down to the park
and it was empty.
Totally empty.
Nobody there.
You was happy?
I went and sat right on the bleacher.
I said, oh, man, I'm going to wait.
You didn't work on the jumper?
I missed this.
You got to work on the jumper.
I looked at the time.
It was 2.45.
I said, oh, baby, they coming.
3.30, should be on.
And sure enough, four guys came, four Spanish guys with all the equipment on.
They had multiple balls.
They looked like they traveled.
They play organized ball.
But I was sizing them up.
They was on the side, chilling.
All right, cool.
Then four more dudes came.
And then they all played
a four on four
and didn't even acknowledge
my existence on the side.
They didn't ask me
if I was playing.
Yo, you want in, OG?
Yo.
They didn't say none of that, ish.
So did you hit them
with that?
That's not normally
my park experience.
I got nuts.
Hey, if you new here listening
i got another 10 minutes of basketball in the park hey listen i lost all my friends what else
you gonna do but go to the park and make some goddamn friends hey they started playing a game
some other kid across the bleacher yo yo i. Damn, niggas ain't even...
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Wait, what you...
Wait, wait, hold up, dog.
I was the...
I opened this court.
I was the first one here.
And I'm famous.
Don't let me take my little mask off.
I'll take my mask off, nigga.
Now you're a ref, bro.
So now I'm screaming
across the bleacher
with a mask on.
Yo. Me too. You know who the bleacher with a mask on. Yo.
Me too.
You don't have next.
I have next.
Did you call next, though?
And I ain't ask him if he wanted to run, either.
No.
You ain't call next, though.
My only point in this story is all of the basketball court rules I forgot about.
Yeah, you got to call next.
No, you don't.
I called next. I was here first to call next. No, you don't. I called next.
I was here first.
So now, listen.
If I had next already.
Nah.
I'm the lone guy with next.
The four organized basketball player dudes is killing these four niggas.
The four niggas don't look the greatest.
And I'm the only one on the side.
Tell me what it means.
You fucking guessed it. I got to pick up three of these. Three best of the bunch. And I'm the only one on the side. Tell me what it means. You fucking guessed it.
I got to pick up three of these.
Three best of the bomb.
Three of these fucking bums.
Yes, indeed.
You got to run with them.
Now, wait.
I'm calling them bums from the side in my little designer sneakers and shorts.
Hey, I'm on the side.
I'm like, oh, nigga, you're sweet as hell.
Move.
Right?
I'll get up there.
And them Newports kicked in.
It was full court?
Crucial decision here.
Wait, was it full court before you?
No, no, no.
OK.
Four and four.
Half court.
Crucial decision.
I walk on to the court.
By that time, three other guys had come.
OK, so now y'all got to lift the front.
So I picked up two of them. Pick up some of them. And I got to pick up one of these other guys had come. Okay, so now you got to pick up some of them. So I picked up two of them.
Pick up some of them.
And I got to pick up one of these other guys.
Okay.
There's a 17-year-old, 6'5", really skinny, Kevin Durant-looking kid that's goofy, but you can tell in a few years.
He might be something.
Well, he's something now.
But he looked like a baby.
And there's this other guy, a little older, a little bigger.
Okay.
I went with the older guy.
Why you do that?
He said, Joe Budden, what's up?
That's all it took.
That's it.
Oh, he knows me.
Come on.
Walk with me. Mind you, one of the dudes that's on my team, and it oh he knows me come on walk with me
mind you
one of the dudes
that's on my team
and I'm gonna wrap this up
cause I don't wanna
hold y'all too long
one of the dudes
that's on my team
he pulled up on a bike
with
track sneakers on
and track pants
a little Spanish dude
but he's older
yeah
and he was with his man
and he said
yo if you need
two we'll rock for a second he said, yo, if you need to,
we'll rock for a second.
He said it like it was a favor.
And I took him.
He was nice.
Yeah.
This nigga was Kyrie.
This nigga was Spanish Kyrie.
Sam.
Kyrito.
He's Kyrie.
He's Kyrito.
He was carito.
Sam, when I tell you, hey, we watching playoff basketball and just watching Steph and them talking about the game has changed.
No, nigga, the game has changed in the park.
Fam, he had his layup package with either hand reverse fadeaway step back off one foot.
Shit, I only thought Dirk could do.
This nigga was doing, they was sending the whole the whole four Adam I'm down low work out
I didn't get no boards. I didn't do nothing. I was just out there like a bum
That's it. So we won with carito
Carito did his thing, man.
Shut up.
That's my guy, man.
Put the bike to the side and got busy.
But now, the 16-year-old kid that I didn't pick.
Felt some type of way.
He came out and gave you buckets?
He came out, walked on the court.
Slimmy.
He's a lot longer up close.
Yo, that kid is a lot longer up close.
And my dumb ass, let me wrap this up.
Because this is how I know I'm old.
Everybody picking the man they want
when the little kid walk out with his crew.
Here I go, I wait.
Hey, y'all take whoever you want.
Give me the last.
I will take the last.
Nigga, Kevin Durant is the last.
Little 17-year-old Kevin Durant before Texas is the last.
I get right on him.
Body to body.
Ace hood.
Ace hood.
The game has changed.
Know what he say? And this is when I knew
the game changed. Know what he say?
He laugh. He say, whoa,
this guy illegal screen me.
The fuck?
I'm in my head thinking, hey, boy,
I'm about to do a whole lot more to you.
If you worried about
that little back screen I just sent.
Anyway, he must have heard me thinking it.
Next nine points.
You a hack.
Next nine.
I couldn't hack him because he wasn't in front of me no more.
First nine points.
Oh, right by Joe.
It's like a fucking Joe it's like a fucking
it's like George
Gerben
wait I knew it was
bad cause Carito
said yo I got him
I said Carito
nigga I'm mad
taller than you
wait I just let
Carito get him
he scored the next
ten points on Carito
but by that point I was ready to go anyway I had won my one game for I just let Carito get them. He scored the next 10 points on Carito.
Hey, but by that point, I was ready to go home anyway.
I had won my one game for the day thanks to Carito,
and I'm going to head on out.
Got a good little workout.
Yeah, I'm going to head on out.
Oh, man. Hey, I told you.
Hey, after it was 1-1, I looked at the guy that I was thinking.
The guy was the nicest guy in the world.
Man, I was joking.
Don't worry about it.
Good move.
That tough.
All that camaraderie shit.
I said, hey, man.
Yo, what's game?
He said, 16.
Wasn't out of breath at all.
16 and a half, Corey?
I said, OK.
I said, well, what score?
He said, 1-1.
Yo, immediately I thought of Kobe scoring 81 and how tired he must have been.
I'm tired after 1-1.
This nigga's stupid.
That nigga said 16 like, hey, and he had just played the game before.
How now he still going?
I said, yo, the first game was 16.
He said, yeah.
Still cool. Not out of breath, nothing first game was 16. He said, yeah. Still cool.
No, not out of breath, nothing.
All right, y'all work out.
Work out.
I had a blast.
I had a really good time at the park.
Shout out to everybody that was at that park.
Would you go again?
That got me.
I'm definitely going to go again.
Absolutely.
Because, I mean, I may have been an embarrassment out there, but when I went to bed, like my
bones and my joints and shit, this is really the old man podcast now, felt really good.
Yeah, because you don't move them that much.
Slept like a baby.
Yeah, I really did.
Where are you?
Balled up.
Balled up in bed.
Story the next day?
Yeah.
Huh?
Auto temp, 69 in the bed story the next day yeah auto temp 69 in the crib
mad blanket
that's when you
that's when you
cuff in the blanket
with your feet
yeah
yeah
hey
I'm tucking
I'm tucked away
I heard my phone vibrate
nigga
I don't give a fuck about that phone
I never answer this phone
nothing's that important
yeah that was a real good sleep and i got my personal massage appointment tomorrow
so i'm in the game listen i know we started out with some basketball shit but it's really
some health is wealth type shit uh clear mind clear mental uh cory wanted me to get right
and then we go to the park one time and now he right and then we go to the park
one time
and now he don't want
to go to the park no more
now I'm up 5am
waiting for the text
I don't get it
I gotta walk to the park
by myself
I gotta walk up the stairs
by myself
old nigga you with it or what
you another nigga
hold up for a second
huh
I'm active
fuck him nigga
I don't need him to work out
I don't need nobody
for none of that no I'm out that I don't need nobody For none of that
No
I'm out
That was dope
That you went and did it anyway
Now
Ish
Let's stay on health
I didn't even say nothing
I know it's gonna be some
I know some fuckery is coming
No no no
That's not true
That's not true
Earlier I learned
That you have a bet With Corey that says you will lose X amount of pounds and weigh in at 210 by July 1st.
210 pounds, right?
Yes.
And currently, you're at about 240.
Yeah, about that.
234.
Awesome.
I'm hitting a round of applause for that.
And I want to encourage you.
I'm a friend.
Come on, man.
Get that. Get that that shit you can do it
you know what today is right I'm gonna start weighing you every time when you try to do male encouragement other males laugh
no I'm just saying like June is next week and you saying by July 1st
next week and you saying by july 1st ice that's all i was saying bro like did you be mindful of you ain't like you got two three months ice you just came from a recovery house
didn't you just recover from your little sir your dick surgery no there's no recovery when you when
you had your dick surgery last year it wasn't dick surgery. What? What the hell? It wasn't dick surgery.
It wasn't got a little dirgery.
It wasn't got a little dirgery.
It just wasn't got a little dirgery.
It had some little procedures.
It got my dick done?
Yeah.
Making it seem like I want to go see Dr. Miami.
I'm making it sound like you went to a doctor.
I went and got my dick done.
You went to sleep.
And when you woke up.
I didn't go to sleep.
Your dick was.
Oh, now you're a pervert.
Now you're just a nasty nigga.
Don't worry about it.
Keeping it moving right along.
So, Ish, tell us about your body journey.
What about it?
What are you doing?
And anything on a pod.
Of course, I got a Peloton, and I'm just eating better.
I'm a sugar fiend, as everybody knows.
So you doing 30 days no sugar, too?
Nah, I'm going to just try and cut as much of the carbs out as I can.
I've done it before.
I lost 15 pounds in like two weeks, yo.
Just no exercise, no nothing.
Just stopping carbs.
Hold on.
When you were 17.
I remember that.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Hold on.
Shut up.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
You lost 15 pounds in two weeks, right?
It's four weeks until July.
That's when she hurt him.
Oh, man.
I'm just trying to stick on that particular point.
You done had four bags of Doritos since you've been here.
Why?
You pulled some sour powers out your pocket.
You're the only nigga still carrying sour powers.
All right.
Don't worry about it. I think you can make it. You can do it. Of course tower powers. Alright, don't worry about it.
I think you can make it. You can do it. Of course I could.
For real, 4-ish.
Yeah. This guy is nuts.
Listen, hold him accountable
if you see him in the street stealing
peppermints from kids.
If you see him trick-or-treating
outside.
And June.
Big-ass kid.
Oh, we all want to start, man.
We all want to start.
We had 30 minutes of basketball in the park talk.
LeBron.
No, no, no.
Let's not get right into playoffs.
There's been a wild week, a wild few weeks, probably a wild month in media.
It's all your fault.
I'm Thanos.
I keep telling y'all that I'm Thanos and nobody wants to listen to me. Actually, Kwame Brown might be Thanos. That's all your fault. I'm Thanos. I keep telling y'all that.
I'm Thanos and nobody wants to listen to me.
Actually, Kwame Brown might be Thanos. That's true.
Yes, he is. Nah, he could
be Galactus.
Thanos
is always around. Galactus just
pop up and now you're dead.
Thanos ain't even got time
for none of these Avengers X-Men Fantastic
4 games. I'm going to throw these planets at you. That's it. You're dead. I don't even got time for none of these Avengers X-Men Fantastic Four games. I'm going to throw these planets at you.
That's it.
You're dead.
But I don't even.
Where does this start?
It started with me, but then it got off me quickly.
Oh, my God.
Won't he do it every time?
God just threw them out there?
Yo, every time It look like
Every time it look like
The stars are aligning
And they getting Joe out of here
Somebody come right along
And do something
You gotta know the waves
Of the internet
The internet works in waves
It's important to say that
Everybody
Everybody is trying to
Incorporate the internet
Into their ecosystem
Whatever that is
Whatever their world is.
And if you don't get it, you don't get it.
For me, I get that this shit works in waves, shifts and cycles.
And the Internet has been at work.
I'm still dark, have been dark, been getting a lot done, been being real productive, blah, blah, blah, all that good shit.
But Kwame Brown, salute to this man.
Tearing their asses up.
Hell yeah.
I don't want to say tearing their ass up,
but he's making his presence felt.
He's making his voice heard.
For those of you that are unfamiliar,
Kwame Brown was the number one overall draft pick
in the NBA in 2001 to the Washington Wizards.
Michael Jordan was in control of,
pardon me,
in control of the team back then.
Kwame Brown is straight from high school.
He was 17, 18 years old.
And Michael Jordan's tutelage was a lot.
It was rough.
Rumor has it that Doug Collins' tutelage was a lot.
We saw Mike's tutelage in the documentary.
We saw it.
Imagine being 18 and getting that type of treatment.
Ridicule, criticism.
Everybody don't respond to that shit the same way.
I said that the other day.
Like, yo, as a coach,
you got to know how to talk to your players
to maximize their contribution.
And everybody wasn't prepared for Mike.
Veterans didn't like Mike.
I'm sure that's pretty damaging when you're that young.
17, yeah.
It's Mike.
To come back from that.
Yeah, yeah.
It's the greatest basketball player.
Yeah, you grew up.
Certainly at that point.
Ever.
He's ripping you.
So it's like, that'll fuck you up.
That's some trauma.
So people, not only is that trauma,
but people have made whatever jokes they've made for 20 years,
and now Kwame Brown has resurfaced uh and addressed a lot of it
and in the past month he's addressed it with some of our favorite media people i.e matt barns and
stephen jackson from uh up in smoke or all the smoke i'm sorry uh one of my favorite pods as well
as charlamagne that has been where most of the focus has been, right?
Steven Jackson.
I mean, Stephen A. Smith.
Stephen A. Smith, Jemele Hill.
I won't get into all that because that's kind of been passing.
The consistent theme has been whatever's been going on with Kwame Brown,
Steven Jackson, Matt Barnes, and Charlamagne.
Over the weekend, we saw an apology from Steven Jackson
where he basically said, yo, that was a teammate of mine.
Clearly, I hurt his feelings and I'm man enough to acknowledge when I made a mistake and say that wasn't my intention.
I'm not here to tear down black men, demonize black men or add to anybody's pain.
So I apologize. Even if he continues. I'm apologizing and that's the end of it for me.
I'm hitting a round of applause for Steven Jackson because that's commendable.
That was followed by an apology from Charlemagne.
And I have that here.
When I spoke on Kwame and his family, how many people were impacted by those things I was speaking on?
I mean, that's generational.
I caused pain and unintentionally poked at people's wounds okay wounds that will probably never heal and i can't take back those words but
i can't apologize i think oftentimes we meaning black people we fight each other with our demons
whether true or false whatever is the worst thing we know about a person i think i think we know
about a person we just fought for that and that was not my intention i was not in any way shape
or form trying to paint kwame in a negative light, okay?
That black man is not my op.
He wasn't my op when I said it.
In my mind, I'm defending that man, but I should have been defending him as
Leonard Charlemagne the God, McKelvey the professional, and not Leonard Larry,
whatever you want to call me from Moncks Corner, South Carolina,
talking like I'm home in the town on why I believe they need to leave Kwame Brown alone.
That was whack.
Because the conversation didn't even have to go there.
The conversation should have been about basketball.
Yes, leave Kwame Brown alone because he achieved a goal
and a dream that 1.3% of NCAA seniors will achieve.
And 0.03% of high school seniors.
You know how small a number that is?
And that's just simply being drafted in the NBA.
If you play 13 seasons and make $ million dollars you're a success okay if you work 13 years anywhere and
make that kind of money you are successful salute to that man it is a policy season we have to live
up to as our own that's why i always say success is subjective okay my views of success may be
different than yours as long as you're happy that's all that matters but we didn't even get
into that conversation because my mind automatically went to something that didn't that it didn't even have
to go to and doing that i unintended i didn't even think about when i spoke enough uh all right
so there we have apologies all around the board this seems to be over
how are we feeling
well he didn't accept
he didn't accept
his apology
he said fuck his apology
he said fuck your apology
yeah
flat out
damn
like again
and to that you say
you know
I think a lot of it
can I get your
you know I'm not really
the industry voice
can I get your
post Listerine voice
man shut up yo you know I'm not really the industry dude. Can I get your post-Listerine voice? Man, shut up, yo.
You know I'm not the industry dude, but I think that it's damage control.
I think that if you were sincere in how you felt, you pushed a black people narrative,
you pushed a trauma narrative all the time, and you wouldn't have said that shit.
You're a veteran.
You know better.
You wouldn't have said that shit.
That's my personal opinion. That's what people sometimes say about you. you're a veteran you know better you wouldn't have said that shit that's that's my personal opinion that's what people sometimes say about you like yo you know
better you've been around mad long you shouldn't be doing certain shit you know better and so for
him i think it's the same and then when homeboy started pulling out personal shit that he knew
about charlamagne charlamagne retreated that's my personal opinion i think i don't know if the
apology was super sincere.
You just ain't want the smoke
that he was about to bring to you.
Okay.
And I think he don't have,
he don't have to accept that apology.
He can keep going
if he feel like it.
You disrespected me.
You don't get to dictate
how I respond to your disrespect.
Oh, and the beef is over.
Oh, yeah.
The beef is over
when I'm ready for it to be over.
Oh, because that's the other part
that I forgot to mention.
That after Kwame Brown said whatever
whatever he said
allegedly
Charlamagne
sent cease and desist
to both him
and Funkmaster Flex
yeah
so then they both responded
well they both responded
but Kwame said
you're gonna send me
a cease and desist
where you get to go on the air
and talk about my whole family
blah blah blah
and the point that he was saying was you were saying stuff about my family
that my mother protected me from right you were saying stuff about broke information my dad that
i didn't know you said stuff about my brother i didn't know like if anything you owe that there's
a lot more people you owe an apology outside of me correct this i do like listen i dm the brother man say there's some powerful stuff
in what you're talking about once you get past once you get past the surface stuff i agree
he talking that shit and that's what like yo again he's talking about the black narrative
he's talking about a whole bunch of shit how when you get a platform and you get a voice you start
tearing us down and they'll let you rock they They'll let you rock. Start saying something about some of them other groups.
They shutting that shit down.
But with us,
they'll let you go.
You could nigga,
nigga bitch all day,
but you start saying something
about somebody else,
it's going to come to a halt.
And that's what he's basically preaching.
Like, yo, y'all tearing us down.
He's like, yo, I'm a bus.
My mother lives on a golf course, nigga.
He's made $65 million.
People got to stop bringing people's families into shit. Yeah, like again, my mother lives on a golf course nigga he's made 65 million dollars people gotta stop
bringing people's families into shit yeah like again if he he made 65 million dollars only us
do you call out a bus right that's only with us do you call out a bus nobody else does that
fucking doctors surgeons lawyers they don't make 65 million dollars in a lifetime and their parents
and their family be bragging about them like they the best shit since sliced bread. With us, we the motherfuckers that have found a way to nitpick it.
To reference the Michael Jordan doc again,
the internet went crazy when Jerry Krause offered Pippen that contract
and he took it, right?
But when you hear Pippen talk about it,
yo, I come from a family of 10.
We've been poor my entire life,
and I promised my mother that i would do something to take us
out of here so yeah y'all might be telling me that 10 million over however many years is bad
but at the time like a whole generation hasn't seen 10 million dollars you you take everybody
in his family and put them together and they ain't make 10 million dollars collectively yeah
you were saying listen i don't know how to pod anymore man i don't
i don't know i don't know how to pod podding used to be such a transparent organic place and then
big money got involved and i don't know man let me just uh
what's it called cancel culture not even i want to stay on that point that you were making for
two seconds now that i'm clear in thought let me try to articulate this this I don't even know how you articulate it just give it to us now you gotta be all right
be you sometimes yeah just give it to us oh finally oh shit wow fine yes oh my god can I
get a drop Jesus finally they'll let me be me for a change. Because a lot of people were watching me last year, but not really understanding me.
They wasn't feeling me.
They wasn't really smelling me.
I know I say I'm Thanos a lot.
And it's funny.
And we laugh and we joke because we have our inside jokes and we talk behind the scenes.
I'll try to share a little bit here now.
Last year when I was going on those Spotify rants, the rants saying that, I mean, I'm not even sure what they were saying.
I guess I was given a detailed, detailed look at some of the things that I was experiencing behind the scenes.
And while that was happening, right, because I'm Thanos, every time I say and do something, there's like a wave of, and that's how the internet and this media game works, there's a wave of people that just start talking.
And I am a part of that culture.
Let me be clear.
So when I say the gig is the gig, there's a lot of people that's trying to do the gig, but don't really know what comes with the gig.
And in that, there are a lot of companies that want to do business with people that get the gig, but they don't really get the gig.
I'm following.
Part of the gig is sharing your opinion, articulating your thoughts and taking the heat that comes with that.
Sometimes the participants in this media game.
It can get heavy.
Charlamagne lost an hbo deal academics was fucking fired suspended or some
shit for saying something about whatever he went through i won't even repeat it yeah i remember
that i've gone through my shit if you're in this media game you go through some shit but that
spotify rant why that moment was heavy for me was because there was a real live active smear campaign happening at the time right
yep i saw it but it wasn't enough to just see it because if you were on the internet
you saw it right but if you know media right it all looked it all appeared rather orchestrated
it looked planned it felt planned it felt it was a coordinated attack it looked like that's that's
how it felt and i mean when i started getting word from niggas in jail that there was a smear campaign going on,
I'm like, all right, man.
Niggas in jail shouldn't know about the smear campaign,
even though jail looks a lot more fun to visit nowadays.
Nowadays.
I'm just saying they're taking pics.
They're doing voice notes.
I don't know.
I don't know.
They got it.
Yeah, we'll talk about it.
We'll talk about it.
Right?
But the important part of what I'm saying is I got on Charlamagne because he appeared to be going out of his way to devalue me.
One of the most prominent voices in this media thing. used all of his platforms and all of his might to continue to push the narrative
that they fucked it up. Joe fucked it up. Joe don't know business. Now, let me be clear.
I'm only bringing this up because I listened to Kwame Brown and I feel him. Kwame Brown is saying, yo, y'all are calling me a bust for the past 20 years when my family comes from A, poverty.
One, two, three, four, five percent of people make it to where I made it to.
And I accomplished my goal.
You can't speak for what my goals are.
I'm listening to that.. I'm listening to that
and I'm listening to Charlemagne's apology
and it sounds like he gets it.
But I don't think he gets it.
I think that all of this funk master flex,
all of the nasty shit that I'm staying away from
because my moral compass tells me to stay away from it,
even if I mention it.
But all of that stuff is a pow pow it make you back up just a little bit it make you
reassess some things enter Joe's viewpoint on Duke since 2010 he has sat on that platform kicking my back in when I appeared to be down
anybody that had something negative to say he spoke to him
he added fuel to anything that was negative Joe 2010 to 2014- 15 not a mention of an album music none of that but who cares
because Joe's meteoric rise it didn't look possible but then it happened
and then there was still these passive aggressive attacks to devalue me while I'm trying to gain capital for me and 50 other people.
I had a real problem with that.
And so did Kwame Brown.
Question for you.
That apology ticked me off.
All my people from South Carolina.
Yeah, I wouldn't know.
Charlamagne from South Carolina.
Now there's magically a South Carolina brotherhood.
Kwame Brown people from South Carolina.
Most Corner, Sumter, Columbia, 803.
Y'all know the vibes?
That apology ticked me off.
Everything he was saying to Kwame Brown
applies
so are you doing it
because this is what's in your heart
or are you doing
it because you got some
evil shit in you somewhere and you got
some passive aggression
some rage some hate some
I don't know what niggas is into on their own time
what's your question for me is
you just gave a timeline of some rage, some hate, some... I don't know what niggas is into on their own time. What's your question for me, Ish?
You just gave a timeline of his... Of niggas sitting on
white people platforms, kicking my back and
adding the things that they knew wasn't true.
Alright, so... And the second
that somebody else says, I'm gonna add to
something that he says may or may not be true,
lawyers come out, cease and desist
come out, he's doing interviews. Oh, Joe said he might interview such a stuff that was enough for me that was it
that let me know joe is evil joe is nigga shut up so this he just too many niggas talking about joe
that don't know joe this just adds to my question if you said from 2010, roughly till now, he's been doing X, Y, and Z to harm you.
Why do you chop it up with this nigga, man?
The gig is the gig.
That's why I differ.
The gig is the gig.
That's why I differ.
The gig is the gig.
See, Ishan, this is where I differ.
I just said this to Mandy on the phone this morning.
She said, how you doing?
How's your mental health?
How's you?
I said, Mandy, when everybody chooses their goal in life or their path, you have to take what comes on that path.
You do.
I agree with that.
I chose this.
You're right.
I picked this.
You're right.
They're going to throw their stones.
They're going to throw bricks.
They're going to want to see me fall on my fucking face. They they gonna want to see me rise fall get loved be hated they gonna want
all of that shit and i'm prepared to get it because i chose this path i'm with all the smoke
no pun intended i agree with you but what i'm saying is if i know purposely somebody is making
a conscious effort to do me harm whether it's physical emotional social
spiritual whatever the case financial harm i'm not talking to you we just spoke about this i'm not
kicking it with you i'm not doing my pull-up with you on there fuck you i disagree with you i i know
let me count to your point we two human beings let me count to your point i'm not doing that but
let me put it back to you because then it makes makes you look phony. If you knew a nigga
was shooting for you since 2010
and you sitting there
interviewing a nigga
in your living room,
fuck him.
I'm not doing that.
I'm not doing that.
I'll take the gig
and I'll take the strangers
shooting at me.
I'm off on a tangent,
but my brain works weird this way.
So just follow me.
I was watching an interview
Vlad, fuck you, Vlad, was interviewing some real live street nigga.
And the real live street nigga was a part of Supreme Team and all of this other shit that I won't get into.
And that led me down a Supreme Team rabbit hole of Preem and Bimmy and just anybody in that story, which kept me in Queens.
And I know some of the people that I was reading about. Right.
And I started reading about murders. About some Queens street legend niggas that just got killed.
And some of those stories were or did some killing allegedly reading this is all in newspapers i'm not i'm not this is all out right don't think i'm that guy
but in some of them stories what i kept reading was nigga went to meet up with the plug yada yada
yada yada happened bodies and i said damn that's interesting i never put myself in that psyche
i never put myself in the mind of the dude of power ghost the guy that's going to meet the
plug but i really plan on taking this work that's the gig i agree there's things that come
with every gig you pick and this gig me and Charlamagne don't.
I've never been to his house.
He's been to your house.
For the gig.
Fuck that.
Yeah, no.
For the gig.
It's not in my house.
You better than me.
It's work.
You better than me.
It's for the gig.
So the analogy.
It is for the gig.
But the analogy you use.
Yo, let me.
All right, let me say this.
I'll die for the gig.
Let me say that.
Because when I'm saying the gig some people i'm saying whatever it
is that you giving your life to the street niggas i'm talking about they died for that gig and that's
i was going to address that right in that game you have no choice right like the plug is the plug you
go to pick up as part of the game so you pick but with you you picking and choosing who you can associate with who you could
who you could tie into your ties or your choices now let me all right wow this is we getting
somewhere good my true i wouldn't choose to deal with somebody that i know is purposely trying to
do something you are thought provoking for me i guess that's good i guess that's good this says something and it gets my thoughts
to going
let me reference
my famous
snowfall scene
that I love so much
that applies to niggas
every day in this
content game
Franklin said
to Leon
you want
you want to start a war
you want me to be mad
cause of how
another nigga talk
cause of how
another nigga talk genius but wanting to start a war you want me to be mad because of how another because of how another
nigga talk genius but everyday niggas get mad and shit like that what i'm saying is this ish
i have no reason to ever be mad at a charlemagne even with him doing all that shit that he did
you ain't gotta be mad it's just- We don't have to be besties.
I disagree.
I'm not-
I disagree.
Let me tell you something.
I'm kind of agreeing with Ish a little bit on this.
Yeah, I know, but I'm trying to tell y'all something,
and then y'all can respond to it.
Listen to this.
Charlamagne not liking Joe Budden, and damn,
see, this is what I wanted the podcast to be,
transparent time.
Charlamagne not liking Joe Budden
is at the lowest of totem poles.
Indeed.
The lowest of the totem poles.
He alters nothing for me.
He changes nothing in my world.
Where I'm going, there's the hedge fund niggas that don't like me.
There's the board members that don't like me.
There's the racist people at the companies that don't like me. There's the racism in advertising that don't like me there's the racist people at the companies that don't like me is the racism
and advertising that don't like me is real fights with people that do not like me that i have to
exhaust energy on to eat and to feed people and to get my charlemagne is not that that's why i get
confused when like whatever he said he said something
I know what's going on behind the scenes
nigga we are of no relation
to each other
you cracking your neck I want to hear it let's do it
you know that
right
you're saying there are bigger
nemesis that I
need to encounter to get where I'm trying to go.
Right.
And I got to talk to him.
Indeed.
I got to deal with him.
I got to communicate with him.
Wait, wait, wait.
Let me go.
Rub elbow.
Go to dinner with him.
Yeah.
You got to talk to him.
Right.
Right.
Cool.
Granted.
That's a hat.
You have to do that.
With regards to him.
One, he don't know that the shit he's doing is not going to have long-term effects on your success.
You know that.
But wait, how you don't know that?
Because if he, because he's trying to, what do you mean he don't know that?
I said, how don't he know that?
You say he don't know that.
He might be short-sighted.
I don't know the guy.
What I'm saying is, when he's taking...
Shut up, man.
When he's...
No, I'm saying they've only tried to kill me for 20 years-ish.
All right, so again.
All right, so watch this.
If a nigga's trying to kill you and they got you in the garage and they set the garage on fire and they lock all the doors,
they don't know you got the fucking crowbar in your pocket to get out the door.
So because you tried to kill me and you were unsuccessful at doing so,
I'm not talking to you
because your intent was otherwise.
It's the intent.
If I'm intending to end you
or to harm you,
nigga, I'm not chopping it up with you
when I see you in the street.
You definitely not sitting
at my fucking dining room table.
Especially if I don't need you.
Especially if I don't need you.
Like you just said, you have to deal with these execs that don't like you. Especially if I don't need you. Like you just said,
you have to deal with these
execs and shit
that don't like you.
The advertising niggas you need.
This nigga right here,
you don't need.
So I'm not fucking
polying with you.
Fuck out of here, nigga.
You lucky I don't know
how to crack my neck.
Hold up, let me know.
I'm not talking to you.
I won't even say hi.
First niggas I love
I stopped speaking to for double digit years. I'm not talking to you, dog. I won't even say hi. First niggas I love, I stopped speaking to for double digit years.
I'm not talking to you and I know you're purposely trying to bring me and my family harm.
You got kids, dog.
Let me know when it's my go.
It's your go.
Well, first of all, he can't harm you.
That's not the point.
So when you say I got kids.
He might think he can.
He might think he can.
And that's what he should say.
Look, that's not the point.
But let me go.
And that's what he should say.
Look, that's not the point. But let me go.
Right here is when you strap me, or not you, but is when I'm strapped against who I am as a person.
And that seems to be happening to me a lot lately.
And what I mean is this.
I support everything he's doing.
So?
It's not him.
It's not personalized.
Stop.
so it's not him it's not personalized stop who i am in my soul and spirit supports all of the black people out there that are actively striving and have a plan
and they go and they get somewhere blah blah blah blah blah blah all that good stuff right
it still doesn't put them at your dining room table.
I could wish you success from way the fuck over here.
That don't mean you at my dining room table.
That don't mean I even have to engage in a conversation with you
because I want you to be successful
and I want you to win.
Those two totally different arguments.
I'm not talking to you.
I'm not shaking your hand.
I'm not hugging you.
I'm not doing none of that shit.
But over there, I want you to win. win i know but rest in peace stack bundles this is how he was murdered and this is a
problem for a lot of black people we just that's who we are as a people we're welcoming we're
helpful we're forgiving we're compassionate we're all of those things so if you got a fucking
thriving media company and i have a thriving media
company like the same shit i was saying about marlon rory like there's too many solutions here
for there to be problems like what what would the problem be like the two companies could not even
like each other and work together i'm not disagreeing with that yeah but when you say
your company exactly we have nothing to work about. You can't bankrupt my company. But they're trying.
But the fact that they're trying.
And what y'all saying is off for me on a tangent.
That you can't bankrupt my company leads me full circle back to my Kwame Brown Charlamagne point,
which is if Kwame Brown is from Moncks Corner, South Carolina,
and made it to something that 5% of people achieve,
and you acknowledge that,
then what the fuck is the difference
from Joe Budden from Washington Projects,
Washington Projects,
whose family is from Sumter, South Carolina,
becoming a multimillionaire before your very eyes,
alone?
What's the difference?
There's no difference you can't
shame either you're right so careful about what you shame when you sit up here on these fucking
yeah i mean that's it yeah i'm not disagreeing with that i'm saying now you know where angle
he's taking no now i'm not buying him uh uh any Kentucky Fried anymore. I mean, from Kennedy Fried Chicken.
Charlamagne don't know me.
There's a long list of people out there that speak about me that they don't really know me.
But I took offense to that.
Why?
Because they're trying to get niggas paid.
So it's talk about $85 million being generational wealth for where some of us come
from no one million dollars yeah is generational wealth for where some of us come from a half a
ticket one five two five i'm saying numbers today that I've never imagined myself saying. I'm saying numbers today that I've never learned math on.
Let me not get loud.
People think I'm erratic when I'm loud.
And I'm not erratic.
Right?
So I went and tore his ass up something nice.
Thanos style.
Pow pow.
Get off me, little nigga.
Because I don't play with you niggas. Please don't say pow pow. Pow pow. Just a little pow pow get off me little nigga because i don't play with you niggas please don't say
pow pow just a little pow pow but the pow pow i didn't articulate it right but everything kwame
brown is saying was my point hey if we in the black media space then let's handle it like black
media but some of you are puppets some of you are controlled and some of you are executing interests
outside of your own.
So why would you attempt to devalue me
100% black owned, black everything
plus parks
when I'm trying to change the lives
of so many people?
Let me get it off of me.
I pow-powed him really quickly and in that pow-pow I said don't make me go find I'll go find her I'll go find like if we playing
dirty tell me because I know how to play dirty and magically it all stopped wouldn't you fucking have it magically it all stopped and nobody was
talking about thanos anymore until recently your co-hosts look like they fucking get up and had a
hissy fit look like you did some bullshit to them and now thana everybody's talking yet again and i
listened to something that this nigga said while he was talking about me, of course.
And he kept talking like, and he did this last time.
He's like, oh, we'll see.
We'll let the action speak louder than words.
We'll see who the prophet is.
We'll see who the last one standing is.
And I'm listening to this bullshit.
And I'm like, yo, what the fuck is this nigga talking about?
We're unrelated.
Every time it come up
I keep saying
it's unrelated
you don't know what
it's the same thing he said
at the end of the pod
you don't know what
someone else's troubles are
demons are
successes are
you don't know how to rate things
you don't know how to judge things
all of that stuff is true
and here we are
Kwame Brown says the same thing.
He brings up that same point of contention.
And what do you know?
Magically shit stops again.
Now do you shit fucking stops again?
I don't have no proof of nothing.
Right.
Cause I was going to say,
I'm just watching how things play.
I get it.
Ice.
They added a game.
Now they think I don't know whoever they might be.
I'm not accusing anyone of
anything i'm saying i'd be having the blinders on so much that i'm just focused on me and my people
and getting anybody to where they need to go but the second i try to look to the side and pick up
the phone or make a call or get some information they right back at it again with these nasty
behind the scenes media games.
She already said what she say.
Now somebody hiring a team looking for somebody else to say something.
Is there another girl who was uncomfortable?
Nigga.
Enough of the behind the scenes mess.
This is just a combination of behind the scenes mess from people.
So when you talk about lawyers and cease and desist
and things of that nature, fam,
is we playing the game
or is we not playing the game?
My mutual respect for Charlamagne
always came because
you didn't appear to be so sensitive.
You appeared to take the job,
the gig is the gig,
and what comes with it comes with it.
If that mean you get attacked
outside the radio station,
if that mean, nigga, say your name,
hey, I got punched in the face,
hey, whatever comes with the gig comes with the gig.
You lose a bag, you get a bag.
What comes with it comes with it.
Until it starts getting, until it starts getting.
That's where I was getting right.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm off on a tangent.
I didn't want to go off on a tangent.
But I have a problem with people nowadays.
And boys, this happening a lot. We hanging on to every social injustice we hanging on to mental health it's a lot
of people hanging on to shit that I'm just watching your day-to-day actions to see if you live that
shit or you just talking it you talking faith or you live by faith if you a mental health guy you
didn't know that fucking bombarding this man's whole family on the radio would be a mental health guy, you didn't know that fucking bombarding this man's whole family on the radio
would be a mental health thing? Tell me you didn't. And if you sent a cease and desist,
that means that your initial reaction is from business and lawyership. It's not from soul
and merit and gut. And that's where you lose me at. And that's why i'm not on the internet i'm a mental health guy
still mental health month we got a couple days left if you big on mental health then be big on
it at all times don't just look to kick niggas when they down or when you got a one up or when
your platform is i'm no longer just talking to charlamagne i'm talking about as in a whole
i just see a lot of it this is not the first time i've talked about
this here i talked about it with lakeith stanfield i've been on this i trust patterns i talked about
it with me you just got to be careful man you got to be careful where's my phone at actually
because now hey while i'm on this topic while i'm on this topic while I'm on this topic let me not leave this
topic I'm here to pod the day here's my point here's a Joe Budden this is logic okay I'm gonna
read it word for word here's a Joe Budden song I'm gonna read it word for word like he read mine. Here we go, you ready? Pump, puh puh pump, pump
It's the chorus.
Puh puh pump, pump
Pump, puh puh pump, pump it up.
Pump, puh puh pump, pump, puh pump, puh pump
Get to the verse, dawg.
Nah, nigga, get to the verse.
Come on, nigga.
I'm talking that shit, come on. Pump, puh puh pump, this is exact. to the verse dog pump it up pump it up pump it up we gonna do it like uh uh uh let me get my glasses
for this where are my glasses i need to make sure i'm doing it the justice and i'm reading it correctly very important ha ha ha look ha ha pump it up
if you came to get crawl no no oh you're dying with a day oh with a date excuse
me sorry with it okay he deserved that was logic what was the point of that
like what was that to say you're for? I don't understand. To say your...
Of course you don't understand.
Let me help you.
Your club record was bad lyrics?
What was he saying?
Let me help Ish.
Logic is Mr. Mental Health.
Logic, I may have said some bad things about in the past.
Okay.
Logic said Joe Budden forced him into retirement by saying really mean things
logic later said i was suicidal because and my mental health
has it was in bad shape because of the things that joe budden said, you're not hearing me yet, put out a single
with the suicide prevention number
as the phone number.
As the song title.
Yeah, that's what I meant.
I'm sorry, as the song title.
I remember that.
Do you see where I'm going with people
that say they're one thing,
but their actions say something else?
Now let's insert Thanos back into this.
Is Logic ever going to say anything to hurt Joe Budden's feelings?
Let me help everybody.
Some of y'all in here that know me, it's no joke.
Is Logic going to say anything to hurt Joe Budden's feelings?
No.
Is Charlamagne going to say anything to hurt Joe Budden's feelings?
No.
Is, what's the girl called?
Is she going to say something to hurt Joe?
It don't matter. Is she going to something that to hurt your it don't matter
she's gonna say something to hurt your button feelings there's a list of people else say
something hurt your button i want to get the list out of the way because that's the thing that i
need people to know like i got blinders on and i'm focused on what i'm focused on i don't give
a fuck about nothing that you niggas say but But walk it like you talk it. Yeah.
Walk it like you talk it.
Any mistake I made, I just made it organically.
I didn't know.
It wasn't another agenda.
I wasn't trying to hurt somebody.
I wasn't malicious.
I wasn't robbing and stealing.
I'm talking about an adult life.
I'm talking about an adult life.
It's only been an attempt to help people. Will I make a mistake along the way?
You fucking right.
I'm human and I embrace my imperfections.
But the second I say something about logic back and you know who's going to feel bad?
Me.
Know why?
Because I'm a fucking mental health guy.
No, I don't like that.
Now.
Since you want to pull out clips and I'm going to do this and move right along I got a clip that I've been dying to play for you
some of y'all don't know because I'm a mental health guy I save videos in my phone that make
me feel good yesterday I, I saved one.
The one-armed nigga at the court was going.
He's talking on everybody.
Sean Kemp, Tomahawk, boom, crossover, switch it up.
Oh, he's going crazy out there.
I saved it.
It makes me feel good.
But I have another video here.
Hey, you guys talk while I find this video.
Okay.
Okay.
That's talking. Here it is is i found it because do you
know who logic is no do you know that he's biracial no i don't know who he is he's biracial
okay that's been like his thing why he's reminding people that a lot why he stopped
no he did he's reminding people that a. He raps about being biracial.
If I'm getting all my gripes out the way,
one of my gripes with Logic is that he says he's biracial.
All the time.
All the time, but he looks white. He don't look like... But, so here's one of the videos I have,
and I'm going to play it for the people that don't know that Logic is biracial.
Ready?
I'm just as white as that Mona Lisa.
I'm just as black as my cousin Keisha.
I'm biracial, so bye Felicia.
Where a biracial baby was born to a black father and a white mother with an urge to
break free of this biracial jail cell.
Black daddy, white mama.
Cole is biracial, Drake's biracial, Obama's biracial.
My father's black, yeah.
And Obama's white.
Yep.
See, he always saw things from two sides.
The biracial community as well. Blood is the slave and the master.
And my lineage was the slave and the master.
I'm black and white but racism I still cannot evade.
If you are black, you're not black.
My mom a white, my daddy black.
I'm half white, half black.
I had to incorporate it.
It's crazy how everybody so obsessed with my race.
Everybody wanna tell me what I am, what I am not.
Nah, I'm playing all day.
You ain't black, you a motherfucking white boy. I'm playing away black your motherfucking white boy
I always talk about
With another verse about how much I'm black again the kids in school calling him a cracker
Identifying is black looking is white being told what you can or can't be this kid would do everything
See I'm half white and half negro
I ain't ashamed to be white I ain't ashamed to be black
And every time somebody asks me what's your white rapper what's it like to be a white rapper, Logic?
Oh, and I was just like, never talked about it. And I was like, man, it's so great being a white rapper.
White, white, white, white.
For me, I'm proud to be biracial.
Logic, hear me and hear me good.
I love you.
Start with love.
No, I'm keeping it love.
I'm keeping it love.
I realize a lot of people take me wrong
because I don't give a fuck about them.
But y'all shouldn't personalize that.
I just don't give a fuck about y'all.
That's not offense.
I don't mean that as offense to you
I don't mean to spite your being in existence logic I will never give a fuck about nothing
you say but I love you and I wish you well I wish you peace I wish you understanding I wish you
fam let it go just let it go
well some people can't let it go
not saying he can't but some people can't let it go
Joe
Logic, Charlamagne
who else
Ebony K
Ebony K.
What's wrong with Ebony K?
Ebony K. Williams did an interview recently,
and she said that I professionally ghosted her.
What does that mean?
Yeah, can... What is professionally ghosting?
No, you moved...
Why you moved the mic?
To Brooklyn.
That's the Brooklyn
That's what my dog used to do
When he ain't want the food
On the property
I don't know when it's okay to be Joe
Y'all answer it
What is professionally ghosted?
Does anybody want to let me?
You were on the show with her
Correct
We did a show, it was great
You had Did you know her before the show? No You had a to show with her we did the show it was great you had um did you know her
before the show no you had a professional relationship with her yes correct maybe she
wanted to work with you further and maybe the second that the show and ebony is great so please
don't no no mistake anything and i'm saying ebony is great yes she was she joking when she said that
anyway right i don't know i don't know i don't know i'm just trying to wrap my head
around what professionally ghosting means because i'm looking at the flip side of that is it's never
what it means it's what it's what you imply and what she was implying part of me was hey we did
a show it was great when the show ended i never heard from joe and then i went on to do a deal
with uh charlamagne did a podcast or something with charlamagne and maybe that's why i didn't hear from joe anymore so it's just a picture that you paint oh and it's like
am i not am i not calling somebody because you did a deal somewhere like it's a lot of people
that don't know me speaking about their experience but shut up huh did she call you uh like not out of the ordinary she's she was married
i'm not even talking about calling you for no pipe i'm talking i didn't say that but what i'm
saying is what do i look like calling my married co-host off work hours i'd be thinking i'm being
respectful and people take it like that's what i was trying to say the flip side of that would be
if you were calling her it would be no i asked if she called you she might have called you
on a saturday at 12 o'clock to discuss some business or she might have called you multiple
times and then you not answered she might have felt professionally ghosted you get what i'm
saying i'm trying to shoot her some bail well continue to shoot her some bail because i i
personally don't understand it.
And that's where some of my gripes start to coming from.
And letting people just paint you with their brush professionally.
Ghosted.
That's back to my point earlier that I was saying to Parks.
About things being out of my control about how people view me now.
How people speak to me,
what people will and will not say to me.
It's true.
It's true-ish.
I'm not disagreeing with that.
No, I'm just saying that I don't know what your relationship
was like with her.
I hired her.
Still doesn't speak to you.
Me, directly me.
Not revolt.
Not a revolt executive.
Me.
Okay, and you guys had a great relationship stupid me be think
amazing couldn't be better couldn't be better it's on tape no see that's that's and that'd
be my thing stupid me be thinking when you have these amazing experiences with people
and you leave then they're left with that amazing experience and that's what they would
shit hey if i met you
one time actually you tell me all the time a toy toy dude i don't know him whatever you say every
time y'all got up you had a blast so when you share those stories that's what i got i'd be
thinking everybody do that and they don't no it's real i mean this happened i'm sure everybody in
here like you thought you had a good relationship
with somebody
and then
some third party
calls them
and they shit on you
you'd be like
yo that was my nigga
I thought it was
I thought it was
it happens
I wouldn't say
she shit on you
but
no she didn't shit on me
but you leave
a lot of room
for people to interpret it
interpret it the way
they would like
especially in this climate
where everything
that you're going through
with females, et cetera, et cetera.
And you a lawyer.
So I take that a different way
because law is you leaving things
open to interpretation.
No, no.
With you being a lawyer,
and I've seen a Revolt show,
she's a really articulate chick.
She's great.
And she can convey whatever she thought
she wants to convey.
So when you're that good of a communicator,
you don't leave that open space
for somebody to interpret it negatively.
You get what I'm saying?
Unless you want to.
Unless you did it on purpose.
Unless that's the goal.
And I don't even, we don't have to stay here.
It just was in lieu of the conversation that we were having.
No, again, and if you're saying that you had a really good relationship with her, right?
People were going to interview your old co-workers,
your old female co-workers,
and that this is my,
nah, this is my nigga.
That's my man right there.
Matter of fact, I miss him.
I'm about to call him
and curse him out
because I wished him
happy birthday
and he didn't say nothing back.
I'm going to curse you out, nigga,
but you my man.
You're going to see,
Ish going to keep talking
and I'm going to start
having real talk.
You're going to keep talking
and I'm going to start having,
well, no, I had real talk
and y'all took it out. I'm not real talking no more. That's cool. You get what I'm saying? Like, real talk. Stop. You're going to keep talking. I'm going to start having. Well, no, I had real talk and y'all took it out.
I'm not real talking no more.
That's cool.
You get what I'm saying?
Like, yo, you my nigga.
Well, yeah.
Well, on to me being dark.
Where we at?
The hour mark?
Oh, no, I could get cooking right now.
I could get cooking right now.
I could cook in the hour mark.
Let me get my little,
let me boil some water at least.
Go boil some water.
Kitchen might get steamy.
It's cool.
It's cool.
Ish, now that I'm dark from the internet, I step back and I just got time to look at shit.
And when I looked at what happened last time with, you wasn't present with the last shit,
it was one interview pops up on a Friday.
Then another interview pops up on a Saturday.
Then something else pops up on a Saturday. Then something else pops up on a Monday.
And now people with their platforms get to talking about it for the next however many weeks, right?
And that was last time when I thought there was a smear campaign.
I thought and could maybe provide some thinking as to why I thought that, right?
Now, dark.
I'm going to say this and I'm going to keep it pushing because pods ain't for real talk.
Did my pod. Granted, I'm accountable for that one.
Yeah, I take that one. I own that mistake.
Happens. But what happened after that was Marissa did an interview with Adam 22.
She did that the week before, but it's coming out a week later she did that do I think that Marissa or Adam were
plotting against me no but it happened right after that drop Maul and Rory dropped right after that
that was a Sunday right after that the other thing dropped on a Monday. That thing I had got a call about three months ago from a lawyer.
Timing.
And two days after that, Ebony drops.
Plug in the water, buddy.
And three weeks from there, no, no, you kick me when I'm down.
I get up with your leg.
What's my line?
What's my line of Monopoly?
That's a good one.
But what's my Monopoly line is?
You got to kill me.
You got to fucking kill me.
What's wrong with them? What's wrong with them?
What's wrong with them?
I don't play dead.
You better make sure
I'm gone.
Listen, man.
Come on.
Let's move on.
I hate when people
start getting to sweating
and shit and worried
about what I'm about to say.
It's okay, man.
Come on.
What we got?
What we got?
What we got?
What we got?
What else we got?
Versus.
This is your platform.
And yours.
I'm not worried about you.
And yours.
No, I'm not worried about you, sir.
And you guys.
But you wear the brunt.
You wear the brunt.
Dude, they really don't know me.
I'm nobody.
I'm going back to-
Nah, don't do that.
You somebody.
No, no, no.
You somebody.
Don't do that.
They recognize you in Home Depot now when you go.
Don't do that.
Anyway.
Anyway, all right.
We got versus. we got verses.
We got verses.
And before we get to the rematch, let's start with Bow Wow and Soulja Boy.
It has been announced.
What's the date?
I didn't see that announcement.
I don't.
Has it?
That's because you're not on the internet.
Well, I heard Soulja Boy announced, but Bow Wow just made a joke.
It's announced.
I'm telling you it's announced.
It's Soulja Boy, Bow Wow.
Can I get a date on that, please?
There is no date. Great. But they both announced it. Contracts are done announced. It is happening. Soulja Boy, Bow Wow. Can I get a date on that, please? There is no date.
Great.
But they both announced it.
Contracts are done.
Paperwork is in.
I love it.
They both did a little Insta Live together.
That shit's going to be entertaining.
Where they were shooting the shit.
It's going to be funny, but Bow Wow's going to mop the floor, Soulja Boy.
I don't know about that.
I don't know about mop the floor.
And this is exactly where I wanted it to go.
No, no, no.
This is not mop the floor.
What do you gentlemen think? I mopped the floor. Oh, and this is exactly where I wanted it to go. No, no, no. This is not mop the floor.
What do you gentlemen think?
I think this is going to be a great versus
and I don't see it being
a mop either way.
Me either.
I think it's going to be entertaining
because both of them
are personalities.
Correct.
Right?
So them in the same room,
you know,
Soulja Boy is funny.
I think it'll be...
Badwalt's funny too though.
Yeah.
They both funny.
He's not funnier than Soulja Boy.
He not, yeah.
Nah, they funny.
Soulja Boy is funny, son. Nah, Badwalt's funny though. Yeah. They both funny. He's not funnier than Soulja Boy. He's not. Yeah. He's not. Nah, they funny. Soulja Boy's funny, son.
Nah, Bad Wild's funny though.
They're different funnies.
Bad Wild's funny.
Look at this guy, man.
Bad Wild is funny, man.
Look at him, yo.
This is the thing.
And I hate to be that guy here when it comes to the versus battles.
But I'll be paying attention to the sonics of this battle.
Okay.
Expound.
A year ago when these two names were mentioned, what I said was, I think Bow Wow will win because Bow Wow has more number ones, bigger records, more mainstream records, probably more features as well.
So I think Bow Wow will win.
However, Versus History tells us that none of that matters.
At all.
At all.
Versus History tells me that the gentleman with the grimier, guttier, dirtier, streetier, I'm making up words, sounding records will win.
I.e. Jadakiss, I.e. Gucci, I.e.
That's the only one you can really use.
Jadakiss, that's the only one you can really use.
You gentlemen are on the East Coast.
I don't think that Gucci won either.
Outside of New York, I heard a lot of people say it was split in half the street the
street jumped off the screen niggas were scared and they live in the room we love the mixtape
records we loved hearing this they love that a lot of people said the gucci won we from new york
gucci won not from the not in the verses and i'm of course i'm speaking as a gz fan but people said
gucci won because he got up there and disrespected this man
to his face.
Nothing to do with music.
That's what I'm talking about.
That counts.
Versus
and versus
everything that don't have
nothing to do with music
counts.
Who got that shit on?
Who got that shit on?
Who talking that shit?
Who icy?
Who's more current?
Oh yes ice.
Yes ice.
Yes ice.
All of that
counts.
It is a show. All of it counts. Your performance counts. It, Ice. All of that counts. It's a show. It is a show.
All of it counts.
Your performance counts.
It all counts.
The numbers don't mean shit.
When Soulja Boy plays any of them grimy records, Soulja Boy may hop out of bed, right?
Mm-hmm.
Turn my swag on.
That hurts.
The sound, the sonics of that record.
Where is this going to be at?
I need to know. Against any Bow Wow record, when Hop Up Out, Ben, Turn My Swag On comes on, it's going to have a different effect.
Even if that song loses.
It can't lose.
Boy, it takes some momentum away.
It can't lose.
It takes momentum away is all I'm saying.
I don't have nothing to beat that.
That's a point for Soulja Boy.
Guaranteed point.
This is, what am I looking at?
Soulja Boy's list? Yeah. I don't, let me not say that because I don't for Soulja Boy. Guaranteed point. What am I looking at? Soulja Boy's list?
Let me not say that because I don't
want Soulja Boy coming for me.
I'm familiar.
I don't know 20 Soulja Boy records, but I wouldn't.
I do. If you count
features and records he
produced, yes.
He has a nice 20. That's what I'm
saying. I wanted to see this battle
when verses first started popping off.
I'm like, that's a great matchup.
Well, that's because you wanted to be like Bow Wow for many years.
No.
You never wanted to be like Bow Wow?
No, I didn't want to be like Bow Wow.
All right, just checking.
Yeah, cool.
I thought you told me that before.
No, I never told you that before.
All right.
Hey, my memories fail me before.
All good.
All right, so you got Bow Wow winning.
I pick Bow Wow.
I have Bow Wow winning, but I have it close.
I don't have this being no watch.
And totally outside of music, these are two gentlemen that I want Bow Wow. I have Bow Wow winning, but I have it close. I don't have this man no watch. And totally outside of music,
these are two gentlemen
that I want to interview.
Both of them.
Both of these guys
are classic interviews.
I'm sure.
I think Soulja Boy's
going to win.
I think he's going to be
more entertaining.
Has a better interview?
Oh.
So not because of the music.
Not because of the music
necessarily.
Parts at Soulja Boy.
I got Bow Wow. Who you got? Bow parts at Soulja Boy. I got Bow Wow.
Who you got?
You have Bow Wow.
Ice has.
I got Bow Wow and a close one.
I have Bow Wow and a close one too.
I think Soulja Boy is just going to be funny, disrespectful, all the shit that you want to see.
If they were going to 10, I'd pick Soulja Boy.
They might restore the feeling.
If they're going to 10, I'd pick Soulja Boy.
But they're not.
They might restore the feeling of chaos.
Perfect time for me to remind people that I handed Mano his ass going to 10, I pick Soulja Boy. But they're not. They might restore the feeling of chaos. Perfect time for me to remind people that I handed Mano his ass going to 10.
What?
She's bigging up my wins.
You and Mano went to 10?
Yep.
I won.
They know who.
Y'all won?
They know who.
You won?
When y'all do this?
I don't know about that.
Was this on the internet?
Mano got a nice 10. Let me grab my phone real quick.
Nah, I got Joe taking that 10, though.
Let me grab my phone real quick.
Don't worry about it, man.
I'm very versed with me.
Let me see if Mano got the same number.
Let me see if he got the same number, man.
I don't know.
Hey, rappers change their numbers so much, man, so often.
It's hard to keep up.
Let me just check and see.
Joe Mouse Button, what's up, brother?
Mano, Mano, this is Joe Button from the Joe Button Podcast. How are you doing? Let me just check and see Joe Mouse Button What's up brother Mayno Mayno
This is Joe Button
From the Joe Button Podcast
How are you doing
I'm doing alright my brother
How you feeling out there
Oh I'm feeling good man
Listen
Are you in
You in Florida still
Nah I'm in Oklahoma
Right now
What's the word
You moving around
Let me tell you man
Hey man I pack
I pack outfits too
Y'all know
Now I'm about to tell you
No no no Don't say it before I say it nigga Hey what's Hey what's your luggage looking like Let me tell you man Yeah. Yeah. What's up, nigga? What's up?
Yo, listen. I got a pack.
I got a pack crazy.
What's the word, though?
Listen, we was talking about, real quick, we was talking about versus.
We was talking about Soulja Boy and Bow Wow versus.
And I was saying, I picked Bow Wow to win, but if they go to 10, I pick Soulja Boy.
But they're not going to go to 10.
And that reminded me of how, when I beat your ass, when we went to 10.
You didn't beat me, Joe.
You know it was a disqualification.
It was a technicality.
You know I didn't pull that shit, Joe.
Stop playing with me, Virgo.
Stop playing with me, Virgo.
Wait, so Ice is here, and Ice was like, wait,
you and Maino went at it, and you won?
He don't even believe it.
Yeah, it's unbelievable.
You're out.
Come on.
Let's get this thing going, man.
It went and you lost.
We did it already.
No, Joe. You know that was a technicality.
You played the Jay-Z verse.
Yeah.
You ain't got no Jay-Z records.
I played my
pump it up and then I stopped
it and played the whole remix
and my freestyle scratched it up, and then I stopped it and played the whole remix and my freestyle, scratched
it up a little bit.
Yeah.
This nigga tried to play hot.
This is what happened, and I'm going to say this while he's on the phone.
Mano, and this is why versus is important, he lost track of the rounds.
So when we were at the last round, 10, he still had his two biggest records.
10.
He still had his two biggest records.
So he tried to give them fucking high hater and all the above at 10.
And the fans said, man, if you don't get the fuck out of here with this shit.
Yo, listen.
I was in a room full of Joe Button fans.
I was going to lose anyway.
That nigga got a huge fan base.
So I thought I was going to do. No, that was fun.
That was fun. Yo, we got to shoot the shit when you get
back, man. Leave B-Dot alone, too.
Yo, you going up. B-Dot told me I had a nice
couch, man.
Yo, your pod, though.
Let me congratulate you while I got you here.
Give you some flowers. Your pod, the B-Dot shit, the gigs joint.
You're doing it.
You're doing it.
Thank you, my brother.
Thank you.
Thank you, man.
Shit, man.
I'll be back tomorrow, man.
Let's link whenever, bro.
All right.
Say less.
We'll chop it up.
My guy.
Love.
Love.
See, all of that shit matters.
Let me get a word on Fiji Health as well.
All of that shit matters in a versus, right?
I played truth to truth in round eight.
That was strategy.
Strategy.
It's all strategy for me.
My strategy is I'm always going first first.
So what y'all did?
First to five, then switched it?
Yep.
Okay.
So I went first to first five.
Focus.
Get on that.
That's just serving him up and the last
five i'll speed this up round eight i play truth or truth he start he start trying to match me with
emotional stuff can't do that hey rappers out there listen to me none of you can match me in
emotional stuff not a one of you not one of you niggas right so he tried to do that i agree with
that fucked his whole
that's what you fuck up
fucked his whole
shit up
that's what you fuck up at
and forgot to play
one of his biggest records
thank god I didn't have to
really go up against
all the above
he might have won
he might have won
that's a tough one
yeah
I think people were just
really shocked that
Joe Budden got to 10
so did y'all do
Pray For Me
and Runaway Slave
in the same round
no
I'm just curious
did you do Hammer Dance cause that would have been that would have been did I even play Pray For Me I don't think I played Pray For Me and Runaway Slave in the same round no I'm just curious did you do Hammer Dance
cause that would've been
that would've been
did I even play Pray For Me
I don't think I played Pray For Me
I'm just saying
cause it's the same beat
that would've been hilarious
I was struggling
I was struggling
and he played one of them
down south
banger records
he had a lot of those records
with the down south niggas
that go right
that's why I was surprised
like wait what
that's why I didn't think
you could beat him
yeah but
my sexy love remix
circulated
that's what
what round nine my sexy I remix circulated. What?
Round nine.
My sexy love. I played in round nine.
You bodied that.
I played in round nine.
You bodied that.
He wasn't getting a point.
But see, that's the thing about new verses now, though, is that they don't do that.
They don't do the let me play off of what you played.
Now all this shit is already predetermined.
It's a set list.
That's a fact.
And that's why I don't like it no more.
That's reasonable. You bodied it. What that's why I don't like it no more. That's reasonable.
You bought it.
What man I was going to do?
Ne-Yo.
I call him back right now.
The fuck he was going to do?
Jump off.
You talk to him.
What do you mean,
come on, man?
Joey got the top down
with my arm around.
Used to be the biggest flirt
till you caught me.
Come on, man.
What do you mean,
that's a point for Joe.
That's a point for Joe.
I think I got,
what was the score
in that battle?
Six point,
nobody cares.
We'll move on.
How many rappers
do you think
you could take in 10?
Just a ballpark number.
In 10?
Yeah.
How many?
With songs?
Not a lot.
It's not a lot of people
that I could take.
Okay.
I don't think it's a lot.
Because when you try
to put me in a group with people,
like the lyricists I put myself in a group with,
they probably got way more success in commercial records than me.
Like, I dare somebody to say Lupe's name.
I want to see it.
Yeah.
See what?
Anybody say Lupe's name.
Oh, Lupe versus other people.
Because he has big records.
Yeah.
He has Superstar.
He's got Kick Plus. He's got party records that you don't know about. Like, he has big records yeah he has Superstar he got Kick Push
he got Party Records
that you don't know about
like he got big records
and classic albums
I gotta get
Mano was trying to tell me
I couldn't use my mixtape records
like fam
leave me alone
what are you trying to do here
definitely
what are you trying to do here
but anyway
and we also have
Versus Rematch
Swiss Beats
and Timbaland
I think this was the first Versus
that kicked it off
yeah it was yeah and they need to dobaland. I think this was the first verses that kicked it off. Yeah, it was.
Yeah.
And they need to do this right
because I remember Swiss was in his car.
That shit was like four hours long.
Yeah, he was on Instagram live
plugged up in his car
playing records.
Well, he's married to Alicia Keys
in a big, beautiful house
with kids and shit like that.
So I'm sure Alicia sent him to the car.
You're not going to play
that hip hop stuff in here.
I know you made
Rough Riders Anthem but you gotta go get in the car
I would like to see all those original
verses done over properly
this is the wrong rematch
correct
what did you guess? Teddy Riley?
yes!
that was already a rematch
never really got that one
Teddy Riley and Babyface I will one. Teddy Riley and Babyface.
I will always watch Teddy Riley and Babyface.
Have hundreds of songs they didn't play.
No doubt, 100%.
So that was the rematch I was looking for, number one.
And number two, that's not what I was talking about.
What I meant is if Swiss is going to do a rematch,
don't he owe Just Blaze one?
I would think so, too.
You owe Just Blaze a rematch.
Y'all two battled, if I have the two correct.
I think I watched that.
Yeah, they did.
Because they was playing unreleased shit,
and then somebody was killing Just for his placement of the beats he was playing.
Just was wild.
And I think the streets declared Swiss the victor in that.
Yeah, he won that.
Correct.
He won that.
He did win.
Fair and square.
Yes.
But that don't mean that we don't think Just can beat Swiss.
Why we don't get to see that again
I would like to see that again
me too
I would like to see Just battle someone
they should do that the right way
or Just battle someone
well you know the first one
was really
Swiss and Kanye
yes
that was the first one
Swiss won all the smoke
and that was
yeah
gotta respect that
yeah you gotta think
he went Kanye
Just Blaze
Timbaland
on his first three
like shit
gotta respect that
you gotta respect that
I mean who else could he that had to be his first three. Shit. Gotta respect that. You gotta respect that. I mean, who else could he...
That had to be his first three.
Nah. Nah, it's mad people.
But Swiss is
my all the smoke
producer. I've been saying that for years here.
Like, his beats are made
for wanting to smoke.
Money Cash Hole, shit like that.
The only
other one who I think is in that all the smoke shit is RZA.
Those two's beats is only made for smoke.
That RZA battle was good, too.
I didn't watch that one.
I did.
It was good.
RZA won to me because his catalog is built for the smoke.
But Preem did our intro and Preem is family. So Preem really won. It was good. RZA won to me because his catalog is built for the smoke. But Preem did our intro
and Preem is family.
So Preem really won.
Preem won.
Preem won.
Preem didn't go to the...
I rapped on a Preem beat.
The fire shit that he has.
Preem is family for us.
I know.
We don't...
I like Preem.
Then stop saying things bad.
No, I ain't saying nothing bad.
Then lie.
He played the fire.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he won.
Yeah, that's what happened.
You know what Ice does at every Arsenal battle?
Every battle.
Nah, he didn't play.
Arsenal is 300 and 0.
He's the record that Cassidy Wish he had.
Because that's Ice's brother.
That's right.
And he's undefeated.
And he never lost.
And don't ask me.
And even in the battles where he clearly lost,
here go Ice right on 29.
So clear win.
2-1.
Clear win.
Nah, it was 2-1.
30, arse.
Nah, 2-1.
2-1.
Yeah, right?
2-1.
That second one was a little, ah, 2-1.
Yo, that is hilarious.
But we got Swiss Beats and Timbaland in a rematch.
I'm going to watch it.
I don't care who wins or loses.
Are they going to play the records that they're going to play? No, they're going to curate it properly, I'm sure. And that it. I don't care who wins or loses. Are they going to play the records that they...
No, they're going to curate it properly, I'm sure.
And that's why I don't...
I kind of agree with you on that, though.
I do kind of...
It changed everything to me.
This is now a...
Versus has become a joint concert.
Yeah, I agree.
It has not...
It hasn't been versus, like me versus you for a long time.
I think Swiss will bring that energy.
I don't.
I mean, the records are going to be there.
Yeah, but I don't think.
No, I think he's going to perform with.
Yeah.
They're probably going to bring guests out and the whole shit.
They doing this at Club Live in Miami.
Oh, for real?
Oh, wait.
On Memorial Day weekend.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Time out.
Time out.
Time out.
Pardon me.
Pardon me.
Pardon me.
I got caught up in hip hop talk.
Excuse me?
That's what they're doing.
May 30th. Memorial Day weekend. Pardon me, That's what they're doing. May 30th.
Memorial Day weekend.
Pardon me, you guys listening out there.
I didn't, unbeknownst to me, that Sunday.
Yeah.
Which is Memorial Day.
In Miami.
In Miami.
Live.
At Live.
That's some energy.
That's energy.
No, this is a fucking concert, bro.
Everybody's coming out
you wanna go buy some bottles
yo
section's 10k
now my girl coming up
this weekend
I may not wear her
that's better than Liv
yeah
that's better than everything
oh that's a good one
that's better than
everything in life
that's a good one
here we go
let me see if I can think
of some things better than
my girl coming out
I can't
me neither
I tried
oh
you tried it.
Yo,
you have to keep
the place.
It was worse.
Yo,
I'm with him on this one.
Wait a minute.
But wait,
but wait.
I'm playing with you.
I'm playing.
No,
I didn't mean that.
Ice and I,
the two gentlemen
that you keep calling Panda.
It's a joke.
We don't like it.
We don't like your little joke,
nor do we think it's funny. And to add to that, we think you are Panda. It's a joke. We don't like it. We don't like your little joke, nor do we think it's funny.
And to add to that, we think
you are Panda.
You can't, though.
Yeah, we can. You can take whatever you want to take.
How many? I can take anything.
How many episodes have I been on this podcast?
Enough. 17.
17. And
in those 17 episodes,
I'm getting killed
for giving my personal opinion.
You bitch ass niggas
be behind the scenes like,
get him Kev!
And on the camera,
y'all like this.
Nope.
Nope.
You are a church mouse
on that Kevin Samuels interview.
Pissing on cotton.
Couldn't hear nothing.
Allowing the guest to speak,
you mean.
You don't do that
with nobody else?
No.
I wanted to hear what he had to say.
That's a good thing.
I wanted to hear what he had to say.
I bet you fucking did.
I was trying to hear from him.
I didn't know nothing about him.
I can't wait to hear from him next time we sit down.
I knew nothing about him.
So I wanted to hear his.
You thought I was quiet.
That last sit down, wait till the next sit down.
I'm going to have my.
Oh, I'm throwing out. Hey, Kev, what you think about when this happens? Look, I'm going to have my- Oh, I'm bro-ing out.
Hey, Cam, what you think about when this happens?
Look, I'm going to have my Hannibal Lecter mask on.
Let's get the fuck out of here.
Bring me a bowl of grass.
Listen, all right, all I'm going to say is this, and we'll keep it moving.
Ice and I come in here and share about our real life-like-
You know what I mean?
Yeah, we give it up with what's going on. You know what I mean? Yeah, we give it up.
What was going on?
You know what I mean?
I said, hey, moving right along.
What albums dropped?
What up, yo?
We got some albums that dropped, right?
Chris Carlson dropped.
Yeah.
You jump, jump, nigga.
Come on, let me find something else that may or may not be important.
Rap, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
Oh, yeah, wait.
Was I done fucking getting in Logic's fucking ass?
Logic!
Yes, you were done.
You were done.
What's up?
You was done.
You sure?
I'm sure you were done.
We're all sure.
Every time I try to go, y'all fucking pull me right back, boy.
That ain't how you get to the money.
It's not.
Let me just tell y'all.
Hey, look, look.
Go!
Thank you.
And another thing, you bitch ass.
Bar ratio money. Bar ratio. look, go. Thank you. And another thing, you bitch ass. Buy racial money.
Buy racial.
No, no.
No, no, no, no.
I'm not going to do that.
You're like, poor Lodge.
No.
Nothing I've ever done has been about the money.
Sickle.
Sickle.
Yo, why are you laughing?
Why are you laughing?
What have I done that's been about the money?
40 licks.
See, I need people to paint me with the right brush. It about the money. 40 licks.
See, I need people to paint me with the right brush.
It ain't money.
It ain't money.
You can say the whole No Love Lost album.
It ain't money.
I wish niggas really knew.
You said you've never done nothing for money?
No, no.
I said it ain't money.
Oh.
No, no.
Today.
Oh, okay.
Oh, you mean like today. No, I'm not talking about when you had no choice.
I'm not.
Ish.
No, I'm not.
Ish.
I'm never coming.
Don't do that to me.
I'm not doing that.
I'm never saying that.
No, no, no.
I'm not saying that.
No, I'm saying that.
When has it ever been about the money?
I gave him an example.
No, I'm saying today.
All the people that inspire me, like all the people that I kind of look up to where they
at and how they got there.
They tell me that it shouldn't be about the money ever.
You told me that.
Right?
They tell you that.
They got the money already.
That's how they got the money.
Hey,
and that's why I love that fucking Drake line so much about,
I have the time.
I got it right.
I probably guessed that Rory would clown me for it.
People sitting here,
but that's why I love that line because I wasn't thinking nothing about money
when it came.
Hey, y'all was with me?
Was I looking like
I was planning
to get big money?
No.
You didn't.
You really didn't.
I ain't trying to.
I'm not trying to.
I'm not trying to say this.
Forget it, man.
You really didn't, though.
You was winging the fuck
out of some shit, bro.
It was a lot.
It's just a lot.
I remember.
No.
Nah.
You smoking cigarettes on camera and all types of shit. That's funny. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.
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No. No.. I did not watch this.
The Knicks game was on.
I saw some highlights.
I heard it was the Drake Awards.
Congratulations to Drake.
Yeah, that's pretty much it.
The thing about the Billboard Awards is it's all just based on the Billboard charts.
Which you should already know.
Yeah, there's no surprise.
Let me just see the little performances.
Saw her and them.
That was cool.
SZA and Doja Cat.
SZA looks amazing.
They sounded great. SZA, I her and them. That was cool. SZA and Doja Cat. SZA looks amazing. They sounded great.
SZA, I'm only waiting for you.
He gonna get this SZA album.
That's it.
Yeah.
Because I already know
what that album's gonna do.
The two songs that came
from it already
and the other one
with a snippet got leaked.
I know that they're gonna sound
three million times better
on the album.
I know that that's gonna be
a whole cohesive project
with a concept, with a... She gonna gonna go crazy i'm only waiting for her they killed this performance
andrew billboard i don't care about this like we i didn't care about it i didn't know it was coming
uh i was upset that i missed it because i i enjoy the award shows during a pandemic and quarantine
i like the new style of uh award shows that are more intimate a little more personal a lot less people right now on the
business side of that award show ratings have plummeted and they're down the drain nobody's
watching them but I enjoy it more so I didn't see this I was disappointed I didn't see this. I was disappointed I didn't see it. But I think I pulled from it all that I needed to pull from it,
which was I need to know exactly how many women were invited
to that Drake celebratory dinner on the football field
where the background said,
congratulations, artists of the decade, Drake.
I saw a lot of that on Instagram.
I need to know how many guests attended this.
That's my biggest takeaway from the Billboard Awards,
is that, boy, a lot of our favorites were happy for Drake.
Drake.
Hey,
some of your favorite Insta stories to watch.
You went there
and got sick
to your fucking stomach
this weekend.
Oh, no,
I don't see any women there.
This is a wholesome guy.
And that is exactly...
Hey, I made it big too.
Hey, I spread that picture.
You were looking at the seats? Yeah spread that picture I enlarged it
I'm like alright the seats is empty
There's no women actually at the table
But they was there
They was there
I saw a couple
Firework shit went off
Different angles
I saw a couple of that
See
And that is the type of wealthy that i need to be
where you can group chat 200 girls and say come to dinner
all right but who all going don't matter everyone i'll be there you know they're not even asking who
all going nothing but competition no no no it's come to dinner okay where they're not
asking no questions that's true no they said can i bring a friend no they'll be okay make friends
there'll be there'll be plenty of friends there'll be plenty of girls there for you to make friends
with that you already know even if you don't make friends congratulations to drake uh i don't think
there's any argument here he He is artist of the decade.
Of course.
Right?
By far.
Most dreams, most number ones, most everything.
Most everything.
Most slaps.
Who could you remotely put into that?
RiRi.
Of the decade?
Nah.
RiRi.
Remember, we going decade.
Decade.
Yeah, she only got to half a decade because she stopped making music five years ago.
Yeah, it can't be Rihanna decade.
Can't be.ihanna decade.
Can't be.
Can't be.
But you know what?
Five years?
Yeah.
I don't say Beyonce for the same reason.
Output this decade.
It's been Drake.
Nobody has outworked Drake. No, no, no.
It's definitely him.
I don't even know if somebody else.
Who you would put at two.
I think, if I'm not mistaken, he posted something about the weekend having like eight or nine
wins or whatever. Weekend was up there, too.
He was high up, too. Kendrick. Yeah, but even
that's a Drake pat on
the back to himself. Sure.
Who is it? It's me and Weekend.
But he's right. I would say
Weekend. Kendrick. It would be Weekend.
I don't think it would be Kendrick.
And Kendrick is my third.
Kendrick is my third. I don't think he passes is my third didn't Kendrick win a Nobel Peace Prize
or some shit
Pulitzer
come on man
Kendrick
yeah those are my three
those are my three
congratulations to Drake
who else won
who else won a Billboard Award
the baby
the baby
they was killing the baby
for his outfit
I loved it
I loved the lime green
and the pink
I loved it
I don't care what you say
it was nice
the hat go back to the winners I loved the lime green and the pink. I loved it. I don't care what you say. It was nice.
The hat.
Go back to the winners?
I like the way the baby dresses.
I just want to see if Doja Cat won anything. I do.
All right, do we have to listen to you find out if Doja Cat won anything?
Yo, you like white girls.
He likes that Doja Cat.
No, you do like white girls.
He's white?
Yes.
Oh.
Well, I don't know.
Mariah Lynn is white.
Pop Smoke won.
Pop Smoke is not white. Pop Smoke, all right. Rest in peace, Pop white. Pop Smoke won. Pop Smoke is not white.
Pop Smoke, all right.
Rest in peace, Pop Smoke.
Pop Smoke won a lot.
Yeah.
Taylor Swift won, of course.
One of the black winners.
We might have got them all.
I'm rooting for everybody black.
All I'm seeing is BTS, Taylor Swift.
BTS, Drake.
Weekend and Drake.
Doja Cat did win
female artist
army artist
I like Doja Cat too
so do I
for different reasons
we like her for different reasons
and we like Mariah Lynn
for different reasons too
Megan won top
rap female artist
you will not leave me alone
about Mariah Lynn
Meg won what?
top female
rap female artist
okay
lock that hot girl on down.
Let's go party.
Of course, Bad Bunny cleaned up.
Of course.
Yeah, you knew that was going to happen.
Kanye West, one top gospel artist.
All right, I don't care.
All right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did I miss the Lil Nas X performance, or was that Saturday Night Live?
Where was he performing with the pole?
Saturday Night Live.
He had a outfit.
His pecs was out. His pectorals.
No, they said he ripped his
pants or some shit.
I missed it. They said a lot more than that.
They said a lot more than he ripped
his pants. No, they said his pants were.
No, those were. You know what? Forget it. Let's move on.
It's fine. Let's move on.
Look at this performance.
And then Ish says, they said his pants ripped.
Don't worry about it, Panda.
We'll take it from here.
It was a beautiful performance.
Shout out to Lil Nas X.
He's awesome.
Yeah, he's killer.
He's killer.
Live your life.
He's killer.
God damn it, huh?
Look, got his little V showing.
Y'all have nothing to say?
No, no, I missed the performance.
Why not?
I didn't see them before.
All the things you're missing,
and you pull them right up on YouTube.
You can find it on Google somewhere.
The next game was on YouTube, too.
Lil Nas X, friend of the show.
Joe loves you.
Fuck these niggas.
Get money.
He's just not my type of music.
That's all.
He's not killing nobody.
That's all it is.
If he had some ops
and was rapping about
killing his ops,
I'd be all,
I'd be on it.
He should work on that.
Is the chain,
is you're proud of that?
This guy is crazy.
At 40.
I'm not 40.
That's you niggas
is 40. You knocking on the door i ain't there at all what
if with your leg fuck you don't um any other takeaways that i need to know from the billboard
awards that i didn't know were airing i don't believe so yeah i don't believe so any after
party news just drakes did we find out about anybody that was fucking secret couples anything just Drake
it was all Drake
it was the Drake
it was the Drake show
it's probably still
the Drake show
yeah
true
I'm in a round of blood
I'm not mad at that
not at all
I'm not mad at it being
one of the best runs
we've ever seen
in all of music
actually I'm glad
you said that
give me the best runs
you guys have ever seen
in music in your lifetimes
in my lifetime
yep in your lifetimes. In my lifetime?
Yep, in your lifetimes.
I want to know.
Because we say that so much on this show and in passing.
Drake would be number one, I think.
Yeah.
Honestly. In my lifetime, yes.
Eminem would probably be number two.
No.
Hip hop or just music?
50s run was nuts.
50s run was nuts.
Yeah, not as long, though.
I'm just asking you guys to give your own opinion, not converse about what you all think.
I'm giving mine.
I said Drake is probably number one. Eminem would probably be number two. I guess
Ho would probably be number three.
Okay.
Ice? Mine is Drake is one.
I'm not talking about quality music. I'm talking about
they just crushed music for
as long as they were putting it out.
I got Drake is one.
I got 50 is two.
M is three.
Ja Rule is four.
Just no Jay-Z or Wayne.
Wayne.
Just no Jay-Z?
It's just tight.
Wayne.
Go ahead.
It's your turn.
Jay-Z, Jay-Z, Jay-Z.
Jay-Z.
Beyonce.
Jay-Z.
Blue. That's not Carter. Blue. Jay-Z. Jay-Z. Jay-Z. Jay-Z. Jay-Z. Beyonce. Jay-Z. Blue.
Stock Carter.
Blue.
Lefty.
Lefty.
Jazz on.
Come on.
Who you got?
Sauce Money.
Earth, Wind & Fire.
The Dramatics.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Drake.
Oh, no.
The Stylistics.
No, he was killing it.
Temptations had a run.
Drake been out for what?
15 years?
Yeah, they dropped with my girl.
Yo, y'all wasn't there when my girl hit the street.
Nope.
Drake had what, 15 years?
Ish, we're not starting this with, yo, Drake had what?
I'm saying, you said, nigga, how long?
09.
He's been, yeah, 13, 12, 13.
So, J.
Nigga, J went from 96.
All right, so J is your one.
We just want to hear your top runs
That's it
Jay, Drake
Jai had a nice run
That's about it
We got Joe
Drake, 50, Nelly
The end
50 had two dope albums
Nelly had two dope albums
Drake had a plethora
See but I'm
I'm not just talking about the album.
I'm not talking about...
I think y'all was talking about something.
I was talking about your run.
I'm talking about both.
I'm talking about everything.
You're talking about career.
Drake and Eminem put out
successful, culture-defining albums
for a long time.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Nelly.
I'm not disrespecting Nelly. It doesn't sound like you talking about? Nelly. Okay. I'm not disrespecting Nelly.
I'm saying his run was short.
It sounds like you're disrespecting Nelly.
His run was short.
50's run was short.
Agreed.
I agree with you on that.
You can't say Nelly and 50 over Jay.
You're doing that on purpose.
When you book in the run short,
yes, you can do that.
If you book in the run,
you can do that.
I don't put Jay-Z
on the list of runs
because he's on another planet.
One.
Oh, Kanye's got to be in there too.
I don't put Kanye
on the list of runs
because he's on another planet.
The people that are
on another planet.
So Drake not on Mars with them?
He owns Mars.
I don't know.
See, Drake is still
on a musical run. i don't as much as
hove of course is my favorite my the best ever we already i think we all agree on that part
but hove has had his moments where he wasn't the number one artist you might 52 but and then let
me let me give you what's in your run ish let me give you what i'm saying yes drake is
on another planet let me answer that he's gone he's out of here along with kanye west along with
jay-z cool however the beatles however he came in in 0908 i'm i'm an adult in 09 like adult adult
and i'm trying to wean my music career down, hopefully.
So yeah, his run is still present,
but I'm looking at his entry and what he did early.
And I'm stopping it there.
I maybe even stopped it before nothing was the same
because it took two albums for you to know what time it was.
It only takes two.
I got a question to ask real quick.
How long was Jay-Z's run?
Like, what years do you say Jay-Z's run?
I'm going to tell him why I'm asking this question.
Jay, outside of him being on another planet,
he didn't, when he came in, it wasn't bonkers.
It wasn't nuts.
And there was other people there that was at the top.
There was other people that had it.
There's nobody at the top.
Reasonable doubt, I think maybe sold 30 grand or something like,
something low in the first week and then became the cult classic.
So his entry, I was there.
He worked his way to the run.
Got it.
The same with, there was another name that y'all mentioned.
Same.
50, his entry level.
Jay-Z?
You never seen nothing like it.
Jay-Z has 10 number one albums in his run.
You never seen nothing like it.
You never seen nothing like it. Say that again? He has 10 number one albums in his run. You never seen nothing like it. You never seen nothing like it.
Say that again?
He has 10 number one albums in his run.
Jay-Z, ho.
Look at my face.
And that's my point.
Yeah.
That's why I put him on mine.
Yeah.
What are you talking about?
That's why I put him on mine.
Got it.
Got it.
This conversation may not be compelling enough to continue.
I'm talking about the biggest rappers in the world arguing apples and oranges.
It's fine.
Where we at?
Where we at?
Where we at?
Where we at?
X's album is coming out.
And we've gotten- 20've gotten Apparently something just came out
Right
The Griselda record
Yep
Let me pull her up
You guys talk
While I find it
Alright
Tell me about
Oh this is from the X album
Yes
And this is coming out Friday
Comes out Friday
Rest in peace DMX
We miss you
We love you of course
Shout out to D.Y.
The whole Rough Riders What's the point? Niggas never would've thought Cause every time I drop something
I don't never get some
FN Max shots
Severing your corks
You never could extort me
My heart cold
It's February 4th
They hate to see me win
I'm not surprised
Nigga, I'm fucking the bitches
Them bum bitches
You fucked out of lies
I'm in Harlem
At Lighthouse
Eating lobster fries
V and Shooter with me
I got mobstererties, machine guns
I grew up with the dark side, apartheid
But Gordon used to grin and get you kidnapped in hogtie
Ex-illest nigga, village nigga
Never been scared, I'ma feel this nigga
Look at that cannon, that'll remove your head and shoulders
Catch that plane and scream, get ran over
I'ma make you hand over everything you got Tell me about the Arabs, motherfuckers Damn it, cause I'ma make you hand over everything you got Damn it, I'm out the average, motherfucker
Damn it, cause I'm a savage Sometimes I can't manage on the shit in my
head I was promised a round but I got the dirt
to stay And tonight I was bred to shed blood
As always, can't be fucked you, nigga, bud
Built for war, where all the small four always hit you
Put the guns, make them snuff all these Nigga, bye. Oh, bro, this 4-4. This is the big stuff.
This is the big stuff.
These are the fuck more niggas in the ass.
You could just specify.
Count with X.
Ready to watch this, nigga.
Do your best.
It's good to hear from X, man.
Yeah, it is.
I'm looking forward to the project.
The project comes this Friday, I think.
Yeah, this Friday.
Yeah, 28.
That's the real gritty, grimy.
Classic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't know what X-Week was going to get.
You know what I mean?
Right.
I didn't know where he was at while recording this.
So it's good to hear that.
Hell yeah.
I don't care what X-Week is.
I'll be looking for the album.
X-Week, as long as the money is going where it needs to go.
I'm cool.
Well, of course.
I'm buying it.
I'm buying it, absolutely.
I'm buying it if I never listen to it.
Rest in peace, X. Yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing the project. I love buying it absolutely I'm buying it if I never listen to it rest in peace X yeah I'm looking forward
to hearing the product
I love that beat
I really do
me too
that beat is such
a rapper's beat
word
any other music
dropping this Friday
Memorial Day weekend
it should be a lot right
or did he drop the track list
he dropped the track list
he dropped the track list
what's the date
do you know
no
no date yet
oh okay
he dropped the track list yeah he did drop the track list What's the date? Do you know? No, no date yet Okay He dropped the track list
Yeah, he did drop the track list
I was looking at the features
Rans on there again
Styles
Benny the Butcher
Yep
Rock Marcy
I'm good
Yeah
I'm good
I saw what I needed to see
And Banks is giving you what?
18 on here?
He from the club
Phone ring
I am calling
Lloyd Banks if you guys will allow it to be
released to the public.
Let's see if his number's the same. You don't know
what these rapper guys... Joe!
May I speak with Lloyd Banks, please?
This is Joe Budden from the Joe Budden Podcast.
What's up, Joseph? How are you, sir?
I'm alright. I'm chilling. I miss Joseph? How are you, sir? I'm all right.
I'm chillin'.
I miss you and I love you, man.
Likewise.
I told you that two weeks ago, so it's not a shock, but yeah.
Yo.
I know that.
I see the track list.
Hey, all up, nigga.
Hey!
The fuck is going on?
Hey, man.
I'm hype now.
It is what it is.
I'm hype now I'm hype
I know yo and when we was reading the track list
just now I said oh I would want to be a part of this
yeah I ain't get niggas ain't send me a beat
niggas ain't ask me nothing
you know what I mean
liar
listen man I just called to say how you feel
I don't want nothing it's an interview
I just called to say how you feel. I don't want nothing. This ain't an interview.
I just called to say how you feel, and we should be sitting down sometime soon.
Yo, definitely, man. I've been seeing that circling through social media.
They asking for it.
I'm good, though.
I'm good.
I'm excited.
I'm happy.
Put a lot of work into it, and I already know what the fuck it's going to do.
That's all good. That's it. That's all I need. I the fuck it's going to do. That's it.
That's all I need.
I know what it's going to do.
I'm confident as a motherfucker.
But yeah, it's definitely
going to apply some pressure.
And yeah, as far as the features,
man, it just feels good to
20 years in
and still be respected by my
peer. You know what I'm saying?
Rock Marcy.
Benny. He's dangerous.
Stiles. Ran. So happy
to see Ran here.
Dangerous. Vado.
Yes. Yeah, I'm supposed to be on
a song somewhere on this one.
The next one.
It's crazy.
It might be some last minute tweaking man
listen man
don't tell me that
nigga
you good
don't tell me that
you good
hey Banks
Banks got the last verse I ever did
I know
I remember the record
oh yeah
transition
he got the last verse I ever did
I was ready to retire
he called
I gotta give it to him
and I could be right there
yeah
that was a hell of a verse
I got some shit to say to these niggas too, man.
Leave him alone.
Joe's not rapping no more.
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
Honestly, I'm not.
Yo, what's up?
This might be the perfect...
Yo, this might be the perfect place to do it, man.
I ain't gonna lie.
Yo, listen.
I'm listening.
Ah!
Get out and shut your ass up.
Let's do it, bro.
Let's do it.
I'm about to get the instrumentals together now.
Say less. Say less.
Say less.
Send it.
Because these niggas are playing with me, man.
No, but listen.
I'm happy for you.
I love you.
Whether this happens or not, I know it's more music coming.
And we got to talk soon.
If you find a beat for us, send it.
It's OK.
You don't have to send it.
No, send it right through 24 easy, maybe 48.
OK.
I don't know, nigga.
Wait, do they still do that anymore?
No.
No.
No, right?
No.
Hey, actually, that's a great question.
How many fucking, how long are your verses on here?
12s?
You doing 12s?
On what you mean?
On the new album?
On the new album?
Are you doing 12s all the way through?
Have you changed?
No, 16s.
Are you an 8 bar guy?
You probably doing 8s.
16s all the way through, three verses on every joint.
Not an eight nowhere?
Eighteen tracks.
And possibly nineteen.
No, no, eighteen.
Eighteen.
No, no, maybe nineteen.
No, no, no, maybe nineteen.
He said it right.
Bates, I love you.
I'll hit you later, my nigga.
Find that beat for us. Likewise, likewise. God bless said it right. Banks, I love you. I'll hit you later, my nigga. Find that beat for us.
Likewise.
Likewise.
God bless y'all.
One.
He said one of the things that I look for people to say when you ask them how they're doing.
He said happy.
Happy.
Nobody ever says it.
Nobody ever even thinks about it.
Banks is the one person, though, that has molded his career.
Well, yeah, him.
To just be happy. That's true. Banks has that thing. that has molded his career. Well, yeah, him.
To just be happy.
That's true.
Banks has that thing.
He has that super power. He's focused on just being,
like you said, just.
That's it.
All that other shit don't matter.
Yo, I'm with my kids.
I'm with my family.
Yep.
And I'm over here with mine.
I'm low.
I'm not on the internet.
Not a whole bunch of pictures.
You don't see me out.
You're not popping out.
Banks is who I think I am.
Yeah, but you. Banks is who I think I am Banks is who I think
and I just figured that
I just realized it in my head
Banks is who Joe Budden
thinks he is
somewhere between Banks
and Steve Harvey
I'ma fuck Marks up
I hear your little
fuckity fucking one-liners.
Yo, and you know what's funny?
Yo, that little line, that line is disrespectful.
That such and such is who such and such thinks he is.
Oh, for sure.
Like they said, John Morant is who Darren Fox thinks he is.
And I love Darren Fox.
Darren Fox is a monster.
Stop playing.
Stop playing.
Let me put some respect on his name.
That line is never-
But that line is just so-
It comes with disrespect.
Right, right.
But I be thinking I'm quiet into myself and with my kids, and I don't pop out, and I'm
not with the internet drama like Lloyd Banks.
But Joe, you-
But I'm wrong.
But I'm wrong.
You're screaming at people on the internet all day.
Yeah, but y'all don't know that.
People shouldn't believe that.
Like, none of the people that I screamed at on the internet,
I ain't know them niggas.
I don't care about you niggas.
Screamed at Angel Diaz from Complex.
I screamed at the 16-year-old kids that came to my house in the morning.
Who else I screamed at?
That was funny.
Rory.
Them kids was funny.
But who else did I scream at?
That's enough
A lot of motherfuckers
Drake
Yeah you screamed at Drake
I did not scream at Drake
You did
I did not scream at Drake
He came out
Or he didn't come out
I heard he was coming out
To say
You listened to views
And screamed at Drake
I was on Adderall
You still did it
I was on Adderall
Does it count?
Word
Like what are you talking about?
I didn't mean it in my heart.
Nobody knows what you mean.
Then you know if somebody's on some shit, then
they can't mean that. But they still do it.
And they don't know that you're on some shit
at the time. If I'm drunk and I drive my car
and smack somebody up. They didn't look at that Drake rant and know I was on Adderall?
Maybe not.
Have they seen any Adderall
symptoms ever? Have they ever experienced Adderall? Did they Google Adderall? Maybe not. Have they seen any Adderall symptoms ever? Have they ever experienced Adderall?
Did they Google Adderall?
Everything that it says was present in the fucking video.
And it worked.
I'm going to tell you, me watching it, I didn't know he was on Adderall.
Shit, I need to find the Adderall dealer again.
That shit took our pod to the next level.
And cleaned our truck when we was on the road.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Listen,
now they got a problem with Adderall.
And got us from Denver to Phoenix in 15 hours
or something. 11. It was under
the time.
I was driving on the road-ish.
Why y'all let them drive by on Adderall? Let's start
there, man. It keeps you up.
Because I'm the best driver in the crew, and I got us there safe.
Oh, I wasn't in there.
I drive better than you.
No, you don't drive better than me.
And I got us where we needed to go.
And in the middle of the drive on Adderall, I noticed some dust on the car.
So I pulled over into the car wash.
No, first you were trying to do it while you were driving.
You was there?
Yes.
Y'all ain't shit.
This is something that should have been recorded.
No, it shouldn't have.
I was trying to clean the car while I was driving,
and it wasn't working.
So I got into the gas station.
OK.
And I pulled up to the little vacuum.
I vacuumed it up.
I was trying to wipe. Found
a hose. Nah, they was up. Nah, we were buying cigarettes
or whatever we were doing. And they came out and I was watching
the car. I said, look at this nigga, man.
What is he? Hey, Joe, come on,
man. Look at this nigga, yo. Hey, Joe,
look, look, look, look, look.
Look, that don't look like, look at my, put my
hand on my hip. Look, look at that finger.
This is an Adderall bit. Hey, when you put put this on youtube put this bit at the bottom please so they know what's
going on i'm sweating i got a scully on i got bacon neck on my t-shirt this is an adderall bit
let's move on it's fine uh all the bad old days and we don't encourage we don't encourage people
to try adderalls if you do get the 30s not the 10s don, get the 30s. Not the 10s. Don't get the little.
Don't get the little.
Why don't?
Nigga, go.
Nigga, whoever.
It's going to be high for two.
Too high for two.
And you're going to be active.
The problem now is the internet is making people not be active.
You just sit there and you're glued to your phone.
Take an Adderall and mop at least.
Mop, sweep, clean, hang some clothes up.
Go fucking get active.
If you want to get skinny by July 1 find some fucking Adderall
hey we'll get these
love handles
right up off of you buddy
you gonna crave a
drop of food
for all month
yeah hey
we'll get you zesty quick
oh that's how that shit
I never had it
that's how that shit
oh yeah
no it's slim right down
oh yeah
up for days
and not eating
you gonna try some Adderall
lose weight
and make your bet
or you to stop eating
cotton candy?
Are you going to grow up
and be a man?
Eat some adult candy
or something.
Shit.
I do eat adult candy.
I do.
Oh, yeah.
From the hood.
All right.
What else is important?
What else do they need
our opinions on?
Nothing, really.
The world can be fine without our opinions.
Shannon Sharp.
Shannon Sharp, another one of my media brothers I love, man.
Yo, can I just say, I do love everybody in media,
even the people that hate me.
Not saying Shannon Sharp hates me,
because he doesn't, I don't think.
Shannon Sharp, live on air,
called Julio Jones to ask him about his future plans Julio Jones if you don't know as a receiver wide receiver for the Atlanta Falcons one of the
best in the league one of the best in the league and everybody in football wants to know where he's
headed how he's feeling what's the temperature uh so shannon called him live on air and this is a story
because julio gave it up he said i'm out of there i'm not playing in atlanta and i just want to go
somewhere where i can win uh but we don't know if julio jones knows that he was being recorded
oh really that is why this is a story, because he was speaking freely to Shannon Sharp live on FS1.
Oh.
Live on air and was talking to him like you would talk to.
Yeah, yeah.
I call these dudes.
You had to answer.
Mm-hmm.
Like, whatever they say.
Like, you're going to talk to your dude like you talk to your dude.
That's why it's important to say, hey, I'm on air.
There's been times where they didn't realize that that's what that meant.
All right, man.
Let's be real.
Well, I come right in and, yeah.
I've got a couple instances, yeah.
Yeah, I've had sometimes where I called somebody and said, I'm live on the air.
This is Joe Button from the Joe Button Podcast.
And maybe they missed it.
They didn't hear it.
Me.
And started speaking freely.
No, I'm talking about Damien Lillard nah i got i get more buckets to him but you used to call me and i'd be like what the
i don't even remember that i remember damian lillard i know and you'd never i know your men
your men but nah on this shit here where you think you're wait no no wait let's slow down
let's stay here for a second. And change the top to that water.
It's a zombie body.
You don't want to see shit
that's sucking the nipple?
Why you got the nipple on the water?
Just get a regular top, my G.
Yo, you think you're in the same, like...
Same what?
You're not.
I'm not what?
Whatever it is, it's not.
Dame Lillard is a better man than me?
Basketball player.
Yeah.
And man.
You're out your fucking mind, nigga.
No?
You said you get buckets like Dame Lillard.
Ask the room.
Absolutely not.
Can we go around the room and just see what they think?
Or we can only do that with me?
No, we can go, I don't give a fuck where you go.
Ice, what you think, man?
I don't give a fuck where you go.
Ice, who you picking first on your team?
On a basketball team?
On any team.
You sound like a whore right now.
I'm picking Dame.
Bitch ass out of here.
I'm picking Dame on any team.
Yo, the male ego.
The male ego.
This is a great time.
This is a great time for me to announce to the world
that I just read that 8% of men
think they can beat
a lion in a fist fight.
I saw that too. This is a perfect time
for me to introduce that.
Alright, I used to think I could beat a bear.
I'm going to be real with you. You can't.
And then I saw a bear like in person.
You can't beat my nigga that's named Bear.
I'm a bear ass.
You can't. My little
dude named Bear. I've met some pretty tough dogs named Bear. I know a bear. Yeah, you can't. My little dude named Bear.
I've met some pretty tough dogs named Bear.
Yeah, word.
I know a puppy named Bear
that you might have
a hard rumble with.
But yeah, no.
No, you're not being a bear.
No, I'm not.
Let alone a lion.
Lions are big animals, bro.
Who you could be?
Let me see.
Let me think.
Let me get the list together.
Joe.
There's always a co-host inviting me to drama
I just can't
escape it
alright
off of Ishan Damian Lillard
he about to beat me up
you think you can shoot
from the logo
to win the game
no
I can't
to start the game
Danny
at any point in the game
it's coming to the park that was nice Joe are you nice now no No, I can't. To start the game, Danny. At any point in the game.
He's coming to the park.
That was nice, Joe.
Are you nice now?
No.
Would you still come to the park and shoot a round, though?
Like, do a three-man, four-man?
Yeah.
What if Dame was there?
Jump on his ass. I don't care.
Hey, Parks, I'm from the...
Don't nobody care about Dame Little in my hood.
He come to my hood, niggas going to try to give him buckets.
But they not going to give him buckets.
They may not.
I'm not disagreeing with that. They're going to try. They may not. I'm not disagreeing with that.
You right.
I'm not disagreeing with you,
but they gonna be coming
for his neck.
And he gonna...
What Joe said,
my man did in the park.
I love Hood niggas podding.
Yo, Hood niggas podding
is the greatest.
What else will the dudes
from your hood
try to do
when Dame Lillard comes?
They gonna try to get at him.
Yo, bro. They gonna try to score him, take him to the rack. How many points you think they gonna score? How many points you think you can score on Dame Lillard comes They gonna try To get at him Yo bro
They gonna try to score
Take it to the rack
You motherfucking right
How many points
You think you can score
On Dame Lillard
Niggas from my hood
No you
You
How many you think
You can score
Call your whole hood
Right now
Let me
Hey call all of Irvington
Let me talk to them
First of all
I'm not from Irvington
And secondly
Be the fuck clear
There's niggas in my hood
That would've gave him buckets
You kekeke laugh All you want to Secondly, be the fuck clear. It's niggas in my hood that would have gave him buckets.
You laugh all you want to, nigga.
They're not giving you buckets.
I'm going to be honest with you. No, you're not.
I mean, he might be giving some of your niggas buckets.
You wasn't outside, nigga.
You wasn't outside.
Niggas in my hood was giving everybody buckets.
You laughing and joking.
I'm dead.
I'm saying I believe you.
Fuck wrong with you.
It's some of the greatest niggas that never made the league.
Come on.
In every hood.
Stop playing.
Come on.
All right, moving right along.
What do y'all think about Shannon Sharp making a call live on air?
I think Julio Jones 100% knew that call was on the air.
Oh, you think he didn't know?
1,000% knew that call.
Yeah, they playing that.
One, did y'all watch this whole clip?
Well, nobody said that he didn't know.
But did y'all watch the whole clip?
Did y'all see it?
Yeah.
Okay, so after Shannon Sharp, well, okay, he asks him,
are you playing for the Cowboys?
He's like, no, I'm out of Atlanta.
Once he says, I'm live on the air
he laughs
and then doubles back down
on what he said
yeah man I'm
you know I ain't fucking around
I'm not fucking around
but I'm still out of there
you kind of got to at that point
fuck it
no you don't
no you don't
no you don't
like he didn't
you can backtrack
and on top of that
if this is my mans
like this to call me like that
yeah he know
I know
and you do this every day
at this time he don't do this every day oh the show the show got it got it got you guys you've been
sitting here with me for for months now you see people call me on tuesday and friday regularly
and interrupt say oh i forgot my bad so people ain't thinking like that didn't call them you
know i'm saying it's different bro i don't even think shannon sharper set them up like that though
but even the people I do
call on Tuesday and on Tuesday and Friday
they ain't saying oh he's on the pod
let me watch out okay like how you
call Banks he might not know you was on the pod
that nigga's mad busy still
he knew I'm rolling with he
knew like he doubled down
he wasn't it wasn't no type of
type of flying iPhone he got
the fuck is that some Elroy Jetson shit
Nah nah
Same shit
Same shit
We here
I don't know what that is
You got to stunt on him like that
What is that
Why is that a stunt
I don't know what it is
Not a stunt
What is it
It's a 12 Pro Max
Oh the 11
No
Got it
No no no
That's your old ass phone
Oh got it
Oh we got the same
That's your old ass phone
We got the same phone
Oh they put a circle on the back
Wait that circle lights up on the back
Wait what the fuck?
Why doesn't mine?
Why doesn't mine?
You got that old ass phone, Joe.
Fuck off, Scott.
Oh, shit out of here.
But yeah, he knew.
He knew.
And I don't think Shannon Sharp is going to set him up.
Yeah, I don't think Shannon Sharp built like that.
That was a, that's a, let me put, let me demand my trade.
Let me put my side out there.
I'm going to just publicly go out.
Yeah.
In public.
Some artists, I mean, some athletes do it via Twitter.
So Jerry Jones could come a-calling.
Nah, he said he wasn't fucking with y'all either.
I know.
They all say that, Ice.
That's what he said.
Everybody wants to go to Dallas.
He don't want to go to Dallas.
I want to go to Dallas.
I like Dallas.
I don't want to go to Dallas.
I do too.
I'd love to go to Dallas.
Nice city.
Beautiful city.
Amazing. I like to take a look at Nice city. Beautiful city. Amazing.
I like to go to Fort Worth.
Amazing city with some great people.
Just the spirit of the city.
Yeah.
Favorite strip club I've ever been to was in Fort Worth.
That's what you got to start saying when your girl asks you why you like the city so much.
Yo, the spirit.
The spirit.
Yo, the food.
Yo, the food.
We got fried game out there, bro.
The spirit of the city.
The spirit. It's just so alive
The culture
Yo
The culture
Yo the culture in Minnesota
Oh my god
Yeah yeah yeah
It works
Culture's a good skateboard
It works
Yeah cause what girl
Knows about culture
Yo
Yo
He's our guy
We need
We need
We need
He's a fucking fool
Yo
A bleep
It's a joke.
Come on.
Eartha Kitt.
Of course it is.
What?
Eartha Kitt.
She knows culture.
Maya Angelou.
Cardi.
Lauren.
Cardi B.
Let's see what you did there.
See that?
Let's see that.
Thank you.
Somebody got it.
All right.
Oh, man.
That's my one.
I'm good.
You are really.
Daughter's name's culture.
I understand.
You know, let me. Let's just move on. Yeah. It's fine one. I'm good. You are really. Daughter's name's Culture. I understand. You know, for me.
Let's just move on.
Yeah.
It's fine.
What were we talking about?
Shady Sharp.
Shady Sharp.
I don't care about that anymore.
I don't care.
Do y'all think he called?
Do you think he knew?
Do you think he didn't know?
Cool.
Where does he end up next year?
Julio?
Yeah.
Not my business.
I mean, what are you fucking around to be in San Diego think as long as it ain't the NFC East
give a fuck where you in there
San Diego
New England
oh
yeah
the playoffs
the playoffs
we're here
are here
we're here
yes we are here
Blazers just lost to the Nuggets man
why they didn't call Ish
holy shit yo man yo the Nuggets, man. Why they didn't call Ish? Holy shit.
Yo, man.
The Nuggets was just trying to figure out how to stop Dame Lil, man.
Why they didn't call you?
They figured it out.
Let's get right to our teams.
Let's get right to our teams.
Laker fans, how do you feel?
Ish is a Laker fan.
I feel great.
Great?
Just great.
I think that, you know, we had mad injuries, all that shit.
The synergy was off
but you think they're gonna get it back in two days of course it's a team full of veterans yo
they know how to win that's the difference between us and some of the younger teams i don't know if
they really know how to win like the knicks if y'all go down oh two no if y'all go down oh two
y'all fertilizer but damn you know i'm saying Y'all don't have really veterans in the locker room to corral a team like that.
You think y'all are okay if you go down?
Well, we up.
Take me out that loser ass conversation.
But you think if y'all go down 0-2, you still have nothing to worry about?
No, I think that if we go down 0-2, of course you got something to worry about.
It's the NBA, but I think we'll be okay. Okay. I don't know if you're going to be okay if we go down 0-2, of course you got something to worry about. It's the NBA, but I think we'll be okay.
Okay. I don't know if
you're going to be okay if we go down 0-2.
I don't either. Okay.
That's fine. Suns is nice. Aiden had more
offensive rebounds than
Anthony Davis had total rebounds.
Anthony Davis won't be shooting
threes all day.
I know, so as a Laker
fan, how do you really feel about this
and can you put your awake outside voice on
again we got LeBron James
and a bunch of veteran players
I think they know what it takes to win
yeah but they gotta do it
against these young niggas
I'm happy that fans are back
I'm happy that fans are back in the arenas
let me hit the round
I'm getting to that
I asked for your in depth take you said oh it's cool we got veterans man back in the arenas. Let me hit the round. How do you feel about the Knicks? I was so... I'm getting to that. I got your...
I asked for your in-depth take.
Nobody told me that.
You said,
it's cool, it's cool.
We got veterans, man.
There's a bunch of people
that didn't know how to win.
That's what you said.
And then I asked you again.
You said the same thing.
So now let me say my old shit.
I'm happy fans are back
in the arena.
Round of applause.
Yes, yes, yes, sir.
I'm so excited.
I went to the bar
for the first time in 15 months
and sat at the bar and had wings. Survived. The Knicks are in the playoffs. Survived yes, yes, sir. I went to the bar for the first time in 15 months and sat at the bar and had
wings. The Knicks were in the playoffs.
Spike's going crazy. Tracy Morgan's
going crazy. There's fans in the arena.
And then we lost.
It is a
vibe. Yo, this nigga got
a lot of commentary about the Knicks' playoff
loss, but not the Lakers'
playoff loss. Yo, do you
want to talk about the Lakers shit some more?
I said Trey. We can't talk
and listen at the same time. Tracy Morgan was in the arena. Spike
was in the arena. I didn't say nothing. I said Trey was
in the arena. That's all I said.
Chris Paul wasn't in the arena in y'all
loss. He wasn't in the arena.
And then left. He said,
all right, these niggas are sweet. I'm going to head to the locker room.
And came back. And then came back and did
nothing. It wasn't that sweet.
And y'all lost.
It wasn't that sweet.
So now back to the Knicks.
So now back to the Knicks.
Defending champs.
Lakers losing.
Game one.
Round one.
I'm so lost.
You would be.
Let me get back to my Knicks.
Back to my Knicks.
Fans in the arena, beautiful.
I'm really happy about that, right?
But I also told Corey earlier in the year or maybe that
was last year when the year ended that if fans are in the arena I don't know if the Knicks have
this great a season I said that I said that I said that why do you think that like the Knicks fans
are more pressure the Knicks finally have a young team. They got a few veterans, but finally, we have a young team.
Finally, we have draft picks that we like.
And finally, we've seen the development of a draft pick.
I can't tell you how it feels, a Knicks fan,
watching R.J. Barrett go from what he did in year one
to watching what he does in year two.
As Knicks fans, we are used to watching the people
that we like not perform
and then get traded and ball out.
That's what we're used to.
That's true.
So as a Knicks fan, with people in the seats, with the lights bright, with the sellout 15,000,
I didn't know how they would.
And sure enough, Julius Randle had a tough game.
He got to stop trying to play like a guard.
I'm not going to tell him what to do because he had an MVP caliber season.
That's true.
Maybe it's a soft game.
Anthony Davis needs to stop playing like a guard.
Julius Randle can't really get by you with the handle,
so he's going to rely on the fadeaways, the left-handed floaters,
hook to shits he be doing.
I'm not mad at him, but he's got to play better.
But I'm not shocked he didn't play well.
They needed that buzzer beater to beat us with our mvp our all-star having the
worst game of his season uh i'm not mad and with that terrible coaching blunder at the end of the
game from tibbs that call was terrible at the end frank nicolettina hot off the bench he didn't play
one minute the whole game coming in and guarding the guy that's on absolute fire is a mistake.
I don't care what the data scientists on the side of the bench said.
That's a mistake.
Todd Gibson being at the top of the key to double is a mistake.
Him guarding John Collins at the top of the key is a mistake.
These are two coaching blunders you cannot make.
That three from Bogdanovich, that one, oh my God, that's a mistake.
Look at RJ's shoulder slump as soon as it goes in.
Yo, can I tell y'all that's one of my new favorite things to do watching sports and
the highlights and all that?
Watching the body language of the other team when shit start going crazy.
Watching the bench of the other team.
I watched Steph Curry highlights just to see the other team i watched steph curry highlights just to see
the other team's bench when he made that crazy uh game winner from the other side of the court in okc
and you watch the ball go from one side of the court into the rim watch enos canter and steve
adams and them niggas on the side as soon as the ball leave his hand it's like oh my god what the
fuck how could you they killing their teammate before it even go in.
I love that now.
How do you let him get that off?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I don't think that the Knicks lose this series
if I'm going by game one.
I think the lights were bright
and I think we had a bad game from Julius,
but I loved what I saw from Toppin,
quickly, Burks, Bullock.
But Burks been doing that.
He's been doing it.
He an offensive guy.
He been doing it all year.
The Knicks are going to have some real tough decisions to make this offseason
because their plan worked.
They got a bunch of players on short one-year contracts.
That are balling out.
That are balling out.
And now people got to get paid.
I'm going to be mad if D. Rose leaves to go get paid.
I'm going to be mad if Reggie Bullock leaves to go get paid.
Nerland's Noel.
They got guys.
They got dogs.
They need Dame.
They need Michael Porter Jr. instead of Kevin Knox.
Nah, they need Dame.
And Michael Porter Jr., who went 14 that year, and Kevin Knox went 9.
And the Bridges guy from Charlotte that's jumping all over the place went 11.
He dunks everything in his path.
Yeah, he went 11.
I don't play.
I would love to have Michael Porter Jr.
That's what I think when I see Kevin Knox on the bench cheering his teammates on.
Then I turn the Denver game on, and Michael Porter Jr. is out there 48 minutes a game.
Doing whatever he wants.
Looks like a young Durant.
He looked like the dude I had to stick at the park.
Nah, he's tough.
Yeah. I think the Knicks will be fine dude I had to stick at the park. Nah, he's tough. Yeah.
I think the Knicks
will be fine.
I'm really happy
for those guys.
I'm happy for the spirit
of New York.
Me too.
I'm happy for Tibbs,
World Wide West.
I'm just happy
for the whole squad.
I do think that we find
a way to win this series.
I do.
I am happy for the Knicks,
though.
They've been the butt
of the joke for a long time.
Just to see playoff
basketball in New York,
it's dope.
It was nice. At the bar, I'm making
friends with all these strangers that are rooting for the Knicks.
Back in the day, it used to be different.
Now, I would love to see the Knicks make it
to the Knicks. Knick fans!
Boy, y'all have to
shut the fuck up.
Why? That's what
the garden is, though.
The garden is that without
the Knicks, Knick fans saying anything. And you have to know knicks nick fans saying anything and you have to
know that you have to know that you have a historic arena where the greats are coming here to ball out
the greats are coming here to perform kobe mike lebron anybody who think they great want to come
here and ball out as a nick fan i've seen reggie miller mad times. As a Nick fan, what else did I see that fucking
broke my heart? Oh, Kobe
and Mike. Just when you
egg people on
from the stands and then they hear you
and then want to do what they do
and that's what Trae Young did. That's the mistake to me.
He went crazy. Trae Young, nothing
wrong with him going crazy. Bright, young
player. All that shit he said in the locker
room afterward, we remember. It's on player. All that shit he said in the locker room afterward,
we remember.
It's on now.
And now the game starts.
What?
That ain't going to happen again.
Single coverage the whole fucking game?
This ain't a basketball podcast.
He floated them to death.
Single coverage
the whole game.
That won't happen again
from Tibbs.
Now it's threes now.
Oh, show me.
He will.
Show me.
Say no more. That ain't Steph. Say no. No, he's his little cousin. Oh, show me. He will. Show me. Say no more.
That ain't Steph.
Say no.
No, he's his little cousin.
No, he ain't.
Yes, he is.
It's one Steph.
You're right.
It's one Steph.
I said he's his little cousin.
I know.
Even his brother ain't Steph.
I'm watching Seth, too.
I know.
I said cousin.
Trey Young.
Yeah, that ain't his cousin, though.
No, he ain't.
You could have fooled me.
Eighth.
Eighth cousin.
No, it ain't.
Eighth.
Tenth cousin.
Man far.
Man far.
I don't even know his dad.
Who's his dad? We related? They ain't really cousins. Eighth, tenth cousin. Man far. Man far. I don't even know his dad. Who's his dad?
We related?
They ain't really cousins.
They're just my man.
Yeah, come on, man.
I was there when moms tried to introduce me to my fifth cousin.
What's that?
What's fifth?
What that mean?
Who aunt?
Do I?
No.
Sorry.
Yeah, all right.
Go sixes, man.
That's all I got to say about the playoffs.
Trey gets 30 next game.
Hopefully.
I'm asking you. Get 30. What does that mean? What are you Trey gets 30 next game? Hopefully. I'm asking you.
Get 30.
What does that mean?
What are you fucking fan doing?
I don't know.
I don't know.
The hell?
I'm not placing a wager on that.
He might get 30.
He's going to score.
I'm just talking about the win.
You got the Knicks winning next game?
Who else from his team showed up?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
I have the Knicks winning the next three games.
You said who else showed up.
Then they'll win one.
Then Atlanta will win one. Then we'll close it out. Four-two. Knicks. Got next three games. You said who all showed up. Then they'll win one. Then Atlanta will win one.
Then we'll close it out.
4-2.
Knicks.
Got it.
What do you have the Lakers series going?
Shouldn't have said what you said in that locker room, young man.
Ish.
What do you have the Lakers series going?
Six.
Oh, eight games.
Nine.
And you have y'all winning game two?
Absolutely.
Okay.
We shall see. Yeah, we shall see. Who y'all playing? We shall see. We shall see.
Yeah, we shall see. Who y'all playing? We shall see.
We have Washington. It's a warm-up
for y'all. It's not a warm-up.
Russell Westbrook and Bradley Beal can never
beat y'all in seven games, right? Just chase them
around. I don't care. Chase them around.
Chase Westbrook and Bradley
Beal around. It's fine with me.
I don't have any more sports.
Sports.
Done? Done? Done? I'm done. I don't have any more sports. Sports. Done? Done? Done?
I'm done. I started a real good topic outside.
I don't know if you gentlemen want to broach it or not.
I think that's a Patreon topic.
Oh, no. I'm not even
talking about that. We're saving that for
Misogynistic Mondays on Patreon.
What's the other one?
Oh, I'm talking about when you get in a
relationship and see what all your old girls talking about when you get in a relationship and see what
all your old girls
is doing
while you're in a relationship
also misogynist
that is a little misogynistic
what you mean though
well how is that topic
misogynistic
it's just gonna lead
to misogyny
that's all
oh well you don't
you don't know
if it doesn't
let's see
I don't think that
this room full of men
it will lead to misogyny
but I mean let's see okay what do you mean by oh never mind I don't think that this room full of men, it will lead to misogyny.
But, I mean, let's see.
Okay.
What do you mean by?
Oh, never mind.
Yo, I'm cool.
What do I mean by what?
You said that when you see what your ex-girls are doing, what you mean by that? I didn't say ex-girls.
Your other girls.
Your girls that you may have been entertaining before you decided to commit to one.
And now you're committed to one.
But the ones that you had, you know, though.
You know, though, Mr. Loving Man.
But the ones that you talked to, well, are you clear?
I'm clear.
The ones that you used to talk to, though, now they out living their life still.
Shouts to them.
Listen, if there's nothing for us to talk about
with that
and I understand
don't worry about it
forget it
can I say
can I speak
please
you do kind of
you'll see it
I'm not saying
you go looking for it
you will see it
you know
social media is everywhere
you see it
and
not in my phone
but I feel you
no not in mine
either right now
but previously it was in there in mine either right now but previously
it was in there
I'm off that shit
but you'll see
certain things
I think I'm back
though fuck them niggas
you back?
not yet
I'll be back next week
I'm only not back yet
because Mercury
and Jupiter
are in retrograde
I am ready to return
but
Mercury's not?
Mercury going backwards
I'm not doing it I'm not doing it.
I'm not doing it, buddy.
Really?
Mercury is retrograding.
I hear that.
No.
Where's Imani at?
LA, I think.
Oh, yeah.
He is in LA.
He'll be in Florida this weekend.
Everybody will be in Florida this weekend.
Not Joe.
I'll be with my girl.
I'll be in Jamaica.
Home.
Everybody else will be in Florida.
You'll be in Jamaica this weekend?
Damn.
Set me up to get crushed.
Everybody will be out there. Not me. I'll be here. I'm in Jamaica. Everybody else will be in Florida. You'll be in Jamaica this weekend? Yeah. Damn, set me up to get crushed. Everybody will be out there,
not me.
I'll be here.
I'm in Jamaica.
I fell for that bullshit.
Look at you, Ice.
I thought you was leaving next week.
Oh, you're leaving this week.
Yeah, I'm leaving Thursday.
And I'll be back Monday,
Memorial Day weekend.
Oh, we got a pod without this guy.
Yeah.
When I told you to go ahead,
that was when I had other goals.
That's what I mean for you to go ahead, that was when I had other goals. I was like, I didn't mean for you to go ahead.
Hey, and I sure enough asked me nine times to make sure.
Yeah, I was like, I'm about to book.
Do you need me?
Do you need me?
No, nigga, go ahead.
I'm fine.
All right, bet.
Now I got to sit here and talk to Ish.
Oh, brother.
Some bullshit.
Jesus, Mr. Panda himself.
All right, so the internet's everywhere.
Internet's everywhere.
You see that shit
and
you have them thoughts
sometimes like
what thoughts
you know the fucking thoughts
you have sometimes
I'm asking
you know the thoughts
he's asking for clarity
oh you're asking for clarity
yeah I'm just asking
damn she look alright
she look alright
living her life
she's having fun without me
she having mad fun
damn
that's it
but then you leave it alone
gotcha there's nothing wrong with seeing as long as you don't act on what you see She's having fun without me. She's having mad fun. Damn. That's it. But then you leave it alone.
Gotcha.
There's nothing wrong with seeing as long as you don't act on what you see.
Damn, he's got him drank.
We got a whip effect in there?
Give me some grass.
I told you, I'm cool, bro.
Yeah, I fuck with grass.
Listen, man, I got nothing but peace in my house.
Ish, do you have anything to add here?
Not really.
I mean, I'm about to.
All right, we got sleepers.
We got some songs we may have been sleeping on.
The chicks I used to talk to, you know, I'm friends with mostly all my female friends.
So even if we dated romantically or whatever the case may be
we really have a super duper strong friendship so if i'm dating somebody new and i explain that to
them they still my niggas we still fly we still cool like i don't really have those issues can
you teach the rest of us how to get that off then because some of us uh might be having issues in
that area and you sound like you got it down pat, like mastered even. I don't really think.
You?
I'm asking for education. Oh, everybody's different.
Nah, I'm saying with you.
All right, let's move on.
Let's go, let's go.
Yo, man.
Yo, this nigga's.
Yeah, because you're not saying nothing.
No, I was going to say something.
I'm saying with you, it's hard for you to do that.
Don't put me.
I don't want to talk about me.
Yo, just be friends with your girls.
I'm sincerely friends, though.
So that even if they get a man or if you get a girlfriend, y'all still have a sincere, genuine.
I mean, still care.
Scott, play too much.
You still care about her.
You should really have a sincere and genuine friendship with them.
You get what I'm saying?
Even if the chick get married, that's still your nigga.
Y'all still fly.
Y'all still sincerely cool
even though y'all not having sex no more.
Bro, you asked me a question.
How many women are you sincerely friends with?
A bunch. A lot of them.
Can I ask a follow-up question?
Why don't you invite them to kick back on a Malibu game?
In your
scenario where you said, you know, just be
friends. Oh, they're secret friends.
Yeah, I was gonna say what happens when her girl, her new dude In your scenario where you said, you know, just be friends. Oh, they're secret friends. Yeah.
I was going to say, what happens when her girl, her new dude is insecure?
Or your new girl is insecure?
So, we had a conversation.
Yo, stop umming too.
Yo, every time you got him with a tough question, he'd say, um.
That's not.
What happens when her man is insecure?
Come on.
Oh, so she tells you that.
She makes that call.
So if y'all are sincerely friends and she says, yo, my new dude got a problem with us
and our friendship and our closeness, you respect that.
And you let her set that boundary.
Yo, all men are liars.
Yo, let's just move on, man.
All right, all right.
Yo, come on.
It's fine.
Yo, so she's calling you to say, yo, I think my man has an issue with our relationship.
And you're saying, how could I make him feel better?
Wow, that's crazy.
No, you say, all right, cool.
I respect that.
I'm not calling you.
You call me.
So you sneak.
No, you call me.
But if your man
if her dude got a problem with
then the ball is in her court
that's her guy I don't have to please her guy
what if both of y'all people don't
look where it gets to I don't have to please her guy
exactly so if she wants to call me I'm the same
friend I'm open to speaking
but what if your girl don't like it either
what if your girl got the problem with it
if my girl has a problem with it, then you'll cut the girl off.
But my girl is secure
and we don't have
them issues.
Okay.
All right.
Shoot the gun, nigga.
This guy's so stupid, yo.
Comes up firing,
here's the throw
to the plate.
He is safe.
In the plate, we will have a challenge.
Nice, safe.
I'm so glad that you found such a secure queen.
Yo, I am so proud of you.
I'm so proud of you.
Yo, go to sleeper, Joe.
All right. You got that to sleeper, Joe. All right.
You got that
Billie Jean
queued up?
All right.
I'm going to play
a sleeper
and we're going
to get out of here.
Do I even have
a sleeper, man?
I hate all
you niggas' music.
It's just right.
Back to the 90s.
R&B.
Rest in peace, Andre Harrell.
I'm on my new Jack Swing vibe.
Shout out to Portrait.
Shout out to all the 90s babies. Wait a minute! So here we go, gonna do the same thing
Here we go, gonna play the same game
Now this ain't the time to make a scene
Cause I'm out with my homies
I know you know just what I mean
So don't just walk up on me, there's a time and there's a place
Where we can talk about it, cause I don't wanna be disgraced
With all your screams and shouting, but
Here we go, here we go, but can you go and do the same thing?
Here we go, here we go, but can you go and do the same thing? Here we go again.
Here we go.
Don't wanna play the same game.
We're not here, not a woman, no crime.
Riding the mountain.
What mountain?
Swim the sea.
Let the verse rock.
Let's see.
See what I mean.
No.
I don't know, but I don't wanna get too rich.
Rest in peace, Shaq G, too.
Shaq G should have did that verse.
Humpty, somebody.
In the 90s, they kept letting the R&B dude actually get an eight on the song.
Like, glad that trend is over.
Even though the R&B dudes now probably got a good eight.
Here we go again.
Brand new old music.
That was Portraitrait Here We Go Again
Some of y'all was outside
Some of y'all wasn't
If you wasn't
You gotta take my word for it
You heard?
I'm gonna play
Keep the old head train moving here
And play Issues
This is Real to Real
By Grand Puba
I need to write up my roots clip
Here's that shit
You know what I'm saying?
That's me bouncing like a mess
Whoa, whoa What what is this?
What is this?
You said you wanted reel to reel.
This is reel to reel.
Am I missing something?
Turn this off, please.
Is there another song that you were looking for?
Do you not know the name of the song you wanted?
360?
Is that what you wanted?
Yeah, I think that's what he wanted
That's the sleeper he's looking for
I'm just trying to get the show right
I think that's the song he's looking for
Yeah
I knew it was you, boys
Cut my blunder
No No, no No, no We're going to leave that That's staying I knew it was you, Mark. Yeah. Cut my blunder out.
No.
No, no.
No, no.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
We're going to leave that.
No, that's staying.
And two of his biggest records.
The only portrait record that anybody knows.
Alamo, is you with me?
No, you know it, because you nightingale.
Stud Doogie, is you with me?
No, this know it cause you're Nike You know this is the life
I don't know this song
I don't know this song
He's wearing Nike socks with Jordan
Jordan
Jordan makes socks
I used to think Young Dro
Had been at the stem
Look at him
He think Young Dro did that
Dro that nigga
You will never hear
Any disrespect from him
I love that nigga
See who's doing the flipping
Quit the telling nigga
To zip it So drink the 40 Cause we ain tell a nigga to zip it, so drink the 40,
cause we ain't got time to sip it.
Grand Puba got body.
Kick some of them, some of those, and some yachties.
As dope as they come, suck a single hum.
Don't try to stop to this, you know you should've slum.
First batter up, well here's the pitch, it's a curve.
Second batter up, because the first got served.
The one who aroused, has a browse for a blouse.
Kick styles by the piles, has a lever, chill for miles.
Skis when I please, hit from here to Tel Aviv. I'm getting G's, no more time for the line of fire. Cause the first got served The one who arouses I browse for a blouse Kick styles by the piles As I leave a trip for miles
Skis when I please
Hit from here to Tel Aviv
I'm getting G's
No more time
For the line of free cheese
Here's the 411
The one who gets the job done
I know you know
The flavor of the boobah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Na, na, na, na, na
This how we bump and choke
You know what I'm saying?
Big Jeff in the house
We gon' move it like this
Baby pop, baby pop in the house. We gon' move it like this. Baby, pop, baby, pop in the house.
Bust how we bustin' down.
We all, you know the flavor.
Sincere love.
Check, check, check, check.
Okay, okay, okay.
What more could I say?
I'm all getting the most.
That's 360, What Goes Around by Grand Puba.
Shout out to the Brand Nubian, the legends, the whole crew.
Ice, who killed who now?
Nah I'm not doing that Who busts who in the head?
I'm going to Houston
Okay
Yeah but I'm not
This is Zero
Zero
This is Zero
Not a rapper
Alright
Shout out to Zero
Probably my favorite
Rapper from Houston period
I'm not a rapper broken real life but youin' for the gram I'm not a rapper
Actin' like that's yours, but you know that's for your man
I'm not a rapper
You say you're from the hood, they don't even know your name
I'm not a rapper
We know you got a job, tellin' us you slangin' can
In they song line, talkin' bout what they ain't got
Extra friendly, but always talkin' bout who they just shot
They ain't respected in the streets at all, they just hot
They say they this, they say they that, but uh, they just not
How can you go to sleep a buster, but wake up a real nigga?
You ain't real just cause you got somebody real with you
So I'm a bitch on Instagram in person though
You must forgot make me turn into the old row and call you buster's eye
Where my verse at homie? That's what you said, huh?
Scared if we own the same song you gon end up dead, huh?
If I said it then I meant it I'm gonna make it happen just head bobbin' and I'm rappin' don't mean I'm a
Rapper, broke in real life but you're stuntin' for the gram
I'm not a rapper, actin' like that's yours but you know that's for your man
I'm not a rapper, you say you're from the hood, they don't even
know your name I'm not a rapper
We know you got a job, telling us you slang and cane
Oh you ballin' but why you rape?
Got them paper plates Ain't nothin' wrong with claiming you're
Delta 88 Say my nigga who give give a fuck what a hater say
Me, myself, you know I love making them haters hate
But you's a cold-blooded killer, killing everything Cops pull you over before they ask, you're telling everything
Just a pussy-ass nigga, ain't gon' ever change Real nigga to real, real niggas ain't gon' ever claim
Real nigga to real, real niggas ain't gon' ever claim Leroy ain't you my homie, shit I thought you was
Now you done hit my own button, I'm bout to off you cause
Slim thug, let you make it, he the bigger man
Steal from me, I would knock out my nigga man
Bitch, I'm not a rapper
Yep, that was Zero, not a rapper
Dope record, man, shout out to Zero
Always working, man
How many albums you got?
He probably got about 200 albums
Yeah, he's got
Bro, every time I turn around
He's dropping another project
He's dope, man
He's been doing it for a minute
Everything
Like I said, that's my
I know everybody goes Scarface and all that
Zero is my personal favorite from Houston
I'm not mad at that
I'm gonna play something off this Dark Low and Harry Fraud album.
This is Vultures with AR.
I got this shit in my heart.
I feel this type of shit.
You feel me?
Riding on an eight-way daydream and swerving and shit.
That's the piece that everybody loves.
School squad. Harry Fraud. With a sound like a beast, ocean blackout
With a sound like a thousand rings, a super show
With a sound like a beast, ocean blackout
We all vultures, stomp a nigga out
Y'all roaches, they let a nigga out
Then I got focus, it's like a chip on my shoulder when I rose this
It's like a chick when I hold her and I felt this shit
Check my documentary, my name been here for centuries
You know I came in Bentleys, you know my heart so empty
I seen a dead body first in elementary
It fucked you up mentally mentally Went to the streets eventually
When your life's scripted, you stand on shit
Then you contradict it, type of shit you can't fix it
Rest in peace, bro, he built me for the district
He had beef, I came through with some misfits
Like a drum bagon, I'm in my hood
Kid said I'm famous, your mama said I'm dangerous
I was down in Cambridge, you dudes WrestleMania
I'm from Philly, but I rep the whole Pennsylvania
The deepest ocean will come
With the sound of a thousand ways You can show it I already know the price Damn!
Huh?
I just got a car for a brick or two
It's 21 to bake on the 62
Cookies on my plate, come and get a few
A Stendhal when it's 40 playing pick-a-boo
Abominable fluid, got gallons of soda
I can pack a trap house without a promoter
44 bullets inside of the Cobra
To count a half a million, you gotta be sober
I was online before a computer
18 years old, puttin' four on a ruler
My dad so dope I was sold to influence
Don't give a fuck about your money, I'm supportin' the shooters
Me and Poe had a plan and it's comin' to life I'm givin' low a hundred bands or it wouldn't be right
I hated last drought, had to pay down a line It say 252 when I'm weighing the nine
Nigga touch one of mine and them bodies gon' double
I send a hit squad, you get Kazi some trouble
If they shoot at me, know I got a rebuttal
I fucked her in the man house and I got her in trouble
Rather shovel shit than get work from a rat
I wouldn't serve one a ball if he offered a stack.
I'm on I-76 with a bird in my lap.
Block 17, I'm a surgeon with that.
That's Vultures, Dark Low, Harry Fraud, and A.R. Ab.
How old is that record, Parker?
I don't know.
I don't think, unless it was out before.
No, I'm just saying.
A.R. Ab is in jail, right?
Yeah, I believe so, yeah.
That's what I was wondering how.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't know.
No clue.
Should we wait for Ish?
No.
Okay.
Do your outro.
I just want to pause.
I just want to stop for just a couple seconds,
just gather myself, get my thoughts together.
There's a little too much violence audio for you?
Yeah.
That's one thing about A.R.R.R.A.P., though.
He's very descriptive.
Another guy that's not a rapper.
Yeah.
Yeah?
Well, Ice didn't kill nobody today, so I had to.
I don't know what Ice did.
I didn't listen to Ice shit.
I played Zero.
I didn't hear nothing he played.
I left.
I played Zero.
I'm getting out of here when y'all start doing shit.
I do like Zero.
I like Zero's music.
Yeah, I can.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm getting too old.
Maybe I'm getting too old.
Could be. I want't know. I don't know. Maybe I'm getting too old. Maybe I'm getting too old. Could be.
I want to hear rappers rap.
Y'all not tired of it?
No.
Y'all not tired of rap coming from everywhere but rappers?
No.
I like the fact that it's more varied this man it's it's it's more
varied now like there's times when i want to hear the rappers rap and i can go to that
and there's a good list of rappers who are rapping so when i want to go hear some bars
but then i just want to hear some ignorant shit or i want to hear some turn up shit or i want to
hear you know i'm saying it's it's so many sub genres now that is amazing to me I agree I don't understand that there's nothing to not like about you don't
gotta pick a side in this one have it all keep saying there's all these sub genres and rap but
what are they what are they okay you got you have you have your rapper rap as you called it you have
op rap as I called it yeah melodic rap yeah melodic rap you still got your underground
backpack yeah nerd nerd rap yeah yeah then there's there's pop rap which is your next to
these sub genres i'd love for y'all to give me the percentage of what y'all think it takes in
the market share in a commercial market share because in the market share period well when
y'all say the rapping rappers,
the rappers that rap,
in 100% of the pie,
what percentage of those rappers?
Actually, probably kind of high.
J. Cole is one of them.
Jay-Z is one of them.
I don't need the names.
Kendrick is one of them.
They probably take up 60%, honestly.
You named three people and said 60%.
How did you get there?
These are the biggest names in the fucking world. Kendrick,
Drake, J. Cole are rapping rappers.
And Jay-Z is a rapping rapper.
I'm talking about the market share and they take up
a huge portion of the market share.
I mean how many of these styles
not which rappers.
But these rappers are in that style. Drake is the market
share. So I'm not having that talk with you.
Drake is the entire market share.
That's not what I'm asking. i'm asking how many of these people the style the sub genres in the pie
okay how many of these people go in each one so when you say rappity rappers that takes up how
much of the pie not drake is the whole market share jay cole i know that 70 which is 60 but
he was answering something different so i want to make sure he understands the question I think it would just be
how many sub-genres
yes Kendrick Cole and Drake
is the market share
that's not what I'm asking here
and they are the
rap and rappers
okay how many
if we come up on
a definitive number
of how many sub-genres
because I just think
that's thrown around
there's a whole bunch
of sub-genres
nigga it's 10 people
in this rappity rap
conversation you're having
15 the most
so that puts it at what
maybe 5% of the pie
when you're talking about whole rappers.
When you talk about this melodic shit,
how many people are you talking about?
But if that's your bag
and you like rappity rappers,
then you have 10 to 15 rappers to choose from
and you call that diversity
is all I'm saying.
I'm challenging y'all saying
it's so diverse
and there's something for everybody.
If you like rappity rap shit,
there's 20 niggas for you to pick from. Each dropping two albums a everybody. If you like rappity rap shit, there's 20 niggas
for you to pick from.
Okay.
Each dropping two albums
a year.
And you think that
as a consumer,
each are not doing that.
A lot of them are.
You name Drake,
Cole, and Kendrick
to start.
I'm not talking about them.
I'm talking about
rappity rappers.
I'll go to the Griselda camp.
I'll go to
38 Specialness.
All of that.
Ransom.
That's what I'm saying.
You're naming the same camp.
Those are two different camps.
And it doesn't matter
there's three plus R's
in each one
and they're all dropping
left and right
so the rappity rap shit
is five to ten percent
of the pie
I don't know what percentage
they take up
alright the melodic rappers
is how much of the pie
give it to me
that's more popular
so yeah that's a bigger
piece of the pie
absolutely
name me five melodic rappers
Moneybagg Yo
Moneybagg Yo
is a melodic
alright I'm done with this conversation I'm finished alright come on don't worry about it don't worry about it five melodic rappers? Moneybag Yo. Moneybag Yo is a melodic rap.
Alright,
I'm done with this conversation.
I'm finished.
Alright,
come on.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
We can get out of here.
We can get out of here.
Don't worry about it.
I'm thinking you're
rappers.
I don't know what the fuck
you're talking about.
I'm thinking you're
saying rappers who use
auto-tune and sing-y
song shit.
Moneybag Yo
is not a melodic rapper.
Bag does that on records.
Lil Baby does that on records. He does Bag Yo is not a melodic rapper. Bag does that on records. Lil Baby does that on records.
He does.
And Lil Baby's the second.
Lil Baby's a melodic rapper.
Yes.
That's what I'm saying.
A Boogie is a melodic rapper.
A Boogie is a melodic rapper.
I asked you to name five, not for me to help you.
I don't know who that is.
NBA Youngboy.
Another one.
Four.
But this gets back to my point of why I don't like the sub-genre topic in hip-hop.
Because I'm going to delve further into it.
And it ain't as diverse as we make it to be.
That's all I'm saying.
You're not going to get to 10 melodic rappers.
That's fine.
If I want to hear melodic rappers, there are some that I can listen to is all I'm saying.
I'm not saying there's 50 in every single category.
That's what I'm going to call it diverse, though.
I just mean different styles.
But in hip-hop, historically, there's always been different styles.
And I don't want to make it seem like we're having a debate about something.
I'm agreeing with what you're saying.
I just am not calling it that diverse until there's more people there.
There's always been styles to choose from in hip-hop.
Because now all of these young kids coming up are taking the melodic route.
Now, they're not as successful, but...
My last month in here, we've been talking about music.
I've only heard death.
Word.
From me.
No.
Period.
Parks just played something that didn't have nothing to do with you.
Oh.
The albums I'm buying, picking up, the ones I like, what they doing.
I've heard nothing but death, killing, murder, trauma, selling us our own trauma.
I don't mean to get mature at the end of the pod.
I'm trying to end this shit.
But when y'all say, oh, it's so diverse.
But we grew up on music that was doing the same shit.
I'm not mad at what anybody's doing.
It's still other shit.
I'm not going to say it's so diverse.
Style-wise, it's diverse.
One street nigga comes out.
Here comes Atlantic to sign 50 more street niggas,
and now that's 50% of the pie.
You would be fooling yourself right now
if you think that, actually, this is my take,
over 50% of the pie is not that.
Street niggas.
Maybe 70% of the pie, maybe, here's my pie,
60% is that.
Street niggas.
Not a rapper.
I'm not a rapper.
I rap now, but big business.
Might be more than 60.
Maybe.
It might be more than that.
Maybe, but I'm giving the other 20 to girls now.
Puts me at 80.
I don't know if 20.
That's a little high.
It's mad girls.
I'm including Jean Grey, Rhapsody. I'm just talking about the field. I'm including all of them. That's a little high. It's mad girls. I'm including Jean Grey, Rhapsody.
I'm just talking about the field.
I'm including all of them.
20% go to girls.
Why do they have to be in there?
There's girls who rap street shit.
They should just be street rappers.
That's true.
Why do you have to put them as girl as a separate category?
What girls rap street shit?
Mulatto.
Cardi.
Mulatto rap street shit.
Cardi rap street shit.
Meg.
Meg, not that much. But thoseatto raps street shit Cardi raps street shit Meg Meg's on
Not that much
But those two
Are talking street shit
Because you about to start
Asian dolling me
And you about to do all of that
I'm just
They do though
I'm putting women
In their own shit
Nah
I don't
I disagree with that
Yeah
Well you know
I'm doing it
Because that's what they do
Historically
They say best
Female
Rapper Best male Rhapsody and the City Girls I'm doing it because that's what they do historically. They say best female rapper, best male.
Rhapsody and the City Girls are nothing alike.
Armani Caesar and Meg are nothing alike.
Right.
And I don't think they should be grouped together just because they're women.
And whoever.
They're mad sub-genres even within female rappers.
It's not fair to let them come on to one thing.
So I'll roll with you.
Uh-huh.
Poppin' Pussy is 15% to 20%.
Yes.
Stripper rap, as I call it.
Even though they're not all strippers, I'm just saying that's that lane.
What did I just say, 15%?
Poppin' Pussy.
15% plus the 60% is at 75%.
I'm putting 5% to the Lyrical Miracles.
And now, Divvy,
to rest up what you want. The Melodic dudes, I'll give them
10 and put miscellaneous
for the last 10.
There's some Melodic niggas that's
street niggas. There's some overlap in a lot
of this shit. That's what I'm trying to tell you.
There's Melodic niggas that's
not a rapper street nigga shit.
Like who? Money Man.
Nigga Lil Baby. Lil Baby. Again, Money Man is Melodic and street nigga shit. Big facts. Like who? Money Man. Nigga Lil Baby.
Lil Baby.
I don't know Money Man.
Again, Money Man is melodic and street nigga shit.
Lil Baby.
Lil Baby is melodic and street.
That's what we're saying.
There's over...
Dirk, melodic and street.
Thug, melodic and street.
He's right.
Awesome that you're naming people that are able to do both.
So how do you put them in one category then?
If they have specialized in both,
it's not even like they lean one way more than the other.
If I'm not talking about the people that occupy two lanes,
my pie is exactly the same.
Like y'all can nitpick it to death,
but my pie is exactly the same.
Put Rhapsody with the lyrical miracles,
put Lil Baby wherever you want to put them, and my pie is exactly the same. Name me. Name me. Put Rhapsody with the Lyrical Miracles. Put Lil Baby wherever you want to put them.
And my pie is exactly the same.
Okay, Joe.
Now, you said the I'm not a rapper street nigga dude takes up 70, 80% of the pie.
Over 50%.
Okay.
Name them.
It's a bunch of them.
Name them.
Name them.
Name me some of them.
Moneybag Yo and them.
Everybody from Memphis.
They whole crew.
Yo Gotti whole crew.
YG whole crew YG whole crew
Gucci whole crew
nigga Lil Baby
it's whole crew
QC whole crew
Lil Baby said nigga
I ain't no rapper
yeah like yo
all of them
everybody that Lil Baby
is friends with
everybody Dirk
is friends with
like
stop this Ice
but the underlying
argument
everybody G Herbo
is friends with
the underlying argument
is you're naming mad people
that do mad different shit
that's what I was trying to get at
that's what I was trying to get at.
That's what I was trying to get at. There's a lot of different types
of people.
You can't make street nigga rap
in its own genre then
because they all do
different shit in there.
That was my point.
That's why I asked you the name.
Rap is more diverse sonically
than ever has been.
You name Baby and all of them cats
and they are melodic too.
No, but I'm not.
That takes away
from the melodic pie then.
The subject matter.
When you start talking street shit.
Y'all could be right.
Y'all know what I'm saying.
If that's the case
they street niggas
but you got them
in the lyrical
rappity rap niggas
I don't have that
if that's the case
everybody's talking
street shit
no matter how you do it
except for
select few
a very very small portion
so the topics
are different
the subject matter
is different
I say there's something
for everybody
if you don't like
melodic rap
Joe started off with all I'm hearing is death.
No, that's how that was a concern.
My point that I led with was I don't think it's diverse, as y'all say.
That's it.
And y'all ended.
Y'all point about overlap furthers my point.
Sure.
I don't understand what that is.
He's right.
I'm talking about sonically.
I'm not talking about. Yeah, that's what'm talking about sonically that's what I was talking about
there's mad different sounds
but the subject matter is the same
in the 90s everybody was the drug dealer
it was partying
everybody was not a drug dealer in the 90s
that's not true
LL wasn't a drug dealer in the 90s or the 80s
I'm giving you the different
I didn't say
everybody was a drug dealer that's not true in the 90s or the 80s. I'm giving you the different, I'm giving you, I didn't say, I'm giving you,
okay,
majority,
excuse me,
popular rap,
yo,
let me,
can I speak real quick?
If you're going to say something right.
Let me speak real quick.
I'll just say a lot.
There was a lot of drug dealer rap,
there was a lot of party rap,
there was maybe three or four different
lanes or topics in the 90s,
just your political rap
and your commercial rap
in the 90s. Fast forward to the rap and your commercial rap in the 90s. Fast forward
to the 2010s, it changed
a little bit. But it's the same shit.
Every decade or so, shit changes.
Right now, street rap is in.
I don't know if you're addressing
my point. It's an overwhelming number of street
rappers. It's an overwhelming
number of people that aren't rappers.
Correct. I'm with you there.
You can't never tell me about,
you can't never use the 90s as your point of reference.
Because my, I started this with, yo,
y'all not sick of not getting rap from rappers.
But I get that from other people.
Right, because if I want to, I can still get it.
So no, I'm not sick of it
and i had no way of getting it yeah maybe i would see i would see that point i just waited years for
a cold album thank god it came and it ain't left since but i feel like that because that's not
being offered frequently but it is it's just not as it's not as popular and not as successful
it's not as commercial it is being offered there are not as popular and not as successful. It's not as commercial.
That is not being offered.
It is being offered.
There are people out there that rap like that, bro.
It's just not pushed that way.
Right now, what's being pushed is death.
Who raps like that? Well, on course.
That's dropping frequently.
Again.
And why is death continuously pushed on me?
I got to get it on the news.
I got to get it from entertainment.
I got to get it from police. I got to get it from America. I got to get it from entertainment. I got to get it from police.
I got to get it from America.
I got to get it from music.
I got to get it when I walk outside.
I got to get it in the hood.
Hey, Joe, because niggas is dying.
Niggas is dying, bro.
I need a better reason.
I need a better reason.
Niggas die every day.
This is their outlet now.
Niggas was dying back then, too.
And this is their outlet now.
Boy, this combo makes it hard for Honor Rolls to come on,
but I'll give it a shot listen i don't mean to be old grumpy uncle man that's really what it is it's old grumpy uncle
it's the same my father told me when 56 came out yo these rappers ain't talking about i
don't want to hear this i like rock him and care rest i don't want to hear nothing else
now we are we when i say we i mean our generation has become. I don't want to hear nothing else. Now we are, we, when I say we, I mean our generation
has become them.
I don't like this shit
these young niggas is talking about.
I like the shit
that was important to me.
We are the old niggas.
That's all it is, bro.
And it's okay.
And that's fine.
That's perfectly fine.
That is what it is.
Now my opinion.
I don't think it's only that.
My opinion is different.
You could talk nigga shit.
You could shoot 7,000 people. If you could talk nigga shit, you could shoot 7,000 people.
If you can lyrically tell me how you shot 7,000...
I think I played Kluge Rap the other day as my sleeper.
He was shooting motherfuckers.
He was talking about nothing but street ignorant shit,
but his lyrical content and how he put it together was better than these niggas.
So it's not the subject matter for me.
It's the talent.
The rapping. The wordplay.
All of that comes into play
for me. It's not just y'all ran out and shot a bunch
of niggas. Yeah.
You got Benny. You got Conway.
You got Ransom. You have
niggas that are in. Freddie Gibbs.
You have niggas in that lane that's
doing that. Yeah.
Schoolboy Q. You have them.as in that lane that's doing that. Yeah. Schoolboy Q, you have them when they drop.
And lately, those names we didn't mention have been dropping a lot.
That's a fact.
So there's a lot for you to pick from if that's your bag.
I'll wait for SZA and Jhené Aiko, man.
I'm cool.
I'm waiting for Dirk and Baby. Huh? I'm waiting for Dirk and Baby Huh?
I'm waiting for Dirk and Baby
You waiting for Jhene
Oh no I'm waiting for that too
Don't get stupid
No no no no no no no
Don't get stupid
That's street shit
Don't get stupid
I don't want to hear you playing that
Don't get stupid
I don't want to hear you playing that
Yo you know what I don't like about you?
Honestly though
Right listen let me
Honestly
Alright we about to end
Let me tell you what I don't like
about you
when we have
these music
conversations
for me
the greats
are excluded
I'm not
Lil Baby
is a great
100%
Dirk
if he ain't a great
is well on his way
to being a great if he ain't a great he's not if he ain't a great he is well on his way to being a great.
If he ain't a great, he's not going to be a great.
If he ain't a great, he right there with his foot on the fucking door, right?
I agree.
So when y'all say Lil Baby is a street, Dirk is street and melodic,
well, yeah, because they're great.
And they could go be, they could probably be, Lil Baby's lyrical.
Right.
Like, they could be anything they want to be.
So that project, you fucking right i'm waiting for
it my son is waiting for it my mom is waiting for it because she likes little baby and that's the
thing about greats it ain't a demo for it the greats when they get out and get to grating
niggas want to look for it hey i want to talk to my son about all that me hey what you think uh
little baby uh dirt shit that just came out. That's what great music do.
So don't try to put it on me like I'm not waiting on that project.
I know you waiting on it. Because I'm waiting on Jhene and SZA.
They don't count.
I'm talking about the other street niggas.
Ice, my issue is-
Man, you was waiting on Moneybagg Yo.
Ice.
He loved it.
He's amazing.
He don't count.
Yes, he do.
He don't count.
He's a great rapper.
You can't say because I like him, he no longer counts.
He's a great rapper.
You can't do that, though, Joe. Moneybagg Yo is a great rapper you can't say because i like him he no longer counts he's a great rapper you can't do that moneybag yo is a great rapper yes i'm hanging his hat on him the
way i hung mine on me throughout my career i never sold records i never was the most impactful
prominent uh a-level artist but i could rap with the best of them a joe button was a great it's people listening
up right now that only know me as a podcast they're like oh why did he keep talking about
his career i'm sorry but i could rap moneybag yo is a great rapper there's nothing none of y'all
can say i don't care if he sold 60 000 records i don't care what he sold he's never about sales
to me he is a great great so again it's by time it's by it's by the time and landscape right now
i'm not gonna call him a great in the 90s no or in the 80s i don't call any of these rappers but when i talk about
these rappers that aren't rappers rapping i don't mean the niggas that's amazing at it i'm not
talking about beanie seagull old nigga shit i'm not talking about uh dirt baby i'm talking about
the other people that are just doing and that's where my problem comes in. I don't want it to seem like I am targeting a specific genre.
My issue is the information is spread everywhere but us in certain ways, right?
So we've gotten enough information in the last 30 years to say, and this is on the street level, ground level, because that's where we start at.
The street level, niggas have gotten enough information to say, shit there's an out there's the out true i see it this goes back to the 80s this goes back
to boogie down productions this goes back to airbnb rock cam this goes back to this is all
throughout hip-hop where you see that one out so today we're seeing the manifestation of that
we're seeing mad niggas from all over the world
ground level street nigga shit right trying their hand trying their hand because that's the only way
that we have the end there is music now there's crypto now there's some other things where you
could take your money and do something with it cool but that information we never got and real
estate and real estate but even that but everybody We all didn't get all of that information, right?
So now you're just seeing
a bunch of niggas
that don't rap,
pick up a ball,
and get to shooting.
I like it
because I like niggas
that find a way.
What I resent about it is
why can't we get
any other information?
You can't tell me that QC,
the same thing I said
about Birdman. If Bird Birdman if I'm gonna
assume I'm just guessing that he has generated billions of dollars from Universal correct
then why the fuck am I not looking at him like I'm looking at Lior QC do you want me to guess
how much money they've generated for capital would you like me to guess you want to talk
about Marcus Shane let's talk about it now want me to guess? You want to talk about Marcus Shea? Let's talk about it now.
Want me to guess?
You want me to tell you where he should be, how we should be talking about him?
You want to talk about Wayne?
You want to talk about shit? So when we have these street nigga conversations, I'm not having them from like an entertainment standpoint.
Okay.
I'm having them from avenues of success.
Why do you think that is?
How we're viewed, how we're deemed,
and what we are mules for.
We are mules for this.
We've always been mules for this.
When are they going to allow us
to participate in other avenues,
in other revenue streams,
do something else,
be viewed as something else?
It ain't just Jay-Z that could do it.
I was about to say,
you know my tagline,
hold bar for everything.
They'll let you run a checkup, but they'll never give you leverage.
That's not true.
That is true.
That's not true.
Me, personally, I think that people's priorities are different.
So if you even heard Ron the other day, some people don't want that.
Some people want money cash holes.
And because they want money cash holes, that's where their priorities take them.
money cash holes and because they want money cash holes that's where their priorities take them if your priorities were y'all want to create something and i want to allow young black men to use this
vice to to set their families up that's what you prioritize right you're not prioritizing the
bentleys and the cars and the and the holes and the jewelry into this so when you talk start
talking about leor i don't know him personally i I'm not a music guy. But I can see his priorities not being 17 Bentleys.
So now my money is going into other vices that are going to make me that much more wealthy and powerful.
With us, we one step out the ghetto.
So because we are one step out the ghetto, our priorities are this.
That we thought was success.
Money, bitches, cars, clothes.
And that's what we're prioritizing. Well, our start points are different, cars, clothes, and that's what we are.
Well, our start points are different, right?
Exactly.
So that's what I'm saying.
So when you start talking about QC, these are street niggas.
But wait now, because I want to add to that.
And I didn't mean for us to get serious at the end here.
But when you want more, I'll wait till Harley Davidson man goes.
When you want more, you do more.
You do.
Right?
I only ever try to use myself as an example.
Maybe when I started rapping, it was, let me get off this block.
Right.
But then you get off the block.
Let me get my mom's house.
Want to buy your mom's house?
You want to pay her rent?
Hey, I'm having a kid.
I want to put my kid through college. When you want more, you do more. Hey, I started with, I want to buy your mom's house you want to pay her rent hey i'm having a kid i want to put my kid through college is when you want more you do more hey i started with i want to i want to do
a podcast to not rap then it was oh i want to take care of more people then that will allow
so we have to do more we got to do more so now i'm gonna take your qc example and compare it to jay-z jay-z started in 96 night
early 90s right so now you take the qc niggas 25 years down the line their priorities will be
different than they are today i agree you got 100 so now that if they're fortunate enough to make it
god willing of course right so again i think in 25 years the qc niggas not even gonna be giving
a fuck about music.
You get what I'm saying?
They're going to be on to bigger and better and grander things.
And I agree with you.
I need 50 cents.
Because my, I love that you're here.
Because my point, I, damn, what did you just say?
What did you just say?
Oh, and at the end, they're going to be, and that gets back to my point of music is our only avenue because sports
sde man sports sports drugs entertainment and drugs because now if you give us more options
at the start maybe i don't get so many rappers that are not rappers but it's the only hole all
the roaches gonna go in the hole and i'm never calling nobody roaches please all the mice gonna go where the food is so that's it like i don't know like i want to i want to see
more of the kids i'm so glad today that the content world is blowing up and niggas is really
making money from it because now i'm seeing kids say what i want to do content yeah i want to own
that's true if you present the opportunity, it'll happen.
It's the same thing Kwame Brown was saying.
Kwame Brown said, yo, you want to talk to me about something?
Talk to me about giving me some money to build youth centers and all that shit all over the whole country.
Because that's what kids need.
Don't come talk to me about some other shit.
Hey, give niggas some skills, some tools.
But I think that content is information
right
and I think with the emergence of the internet
that allowed a free flow
of information that was once
contained
right
so I remember I was studying for my series 7
20 something years ago
you can't just walk in and take a test
to become a stockbroker.
You can't.
You got to get sponsored.
So who's holding the sponsorships?
The powers that be.
Right.
So again, that was a way of them holding that from us.
Right.
Like you can't just walk on Wall Street and just go apply for a job.
No, you can't do that.
You got to come through somebody.
Right.
So that's how they held those reins.
Come through somebody.
Right?
So that's how they held those reins.
So now with the emergence of real estate, any motherfucker with a 750 credit score and a couple dollars in a job could go buy a multifamily now.
So that's where you see people going off into those avenues because they're easier transitions.
Especially if you was a street nigga, you got a couple hundred thousand put up. Now I'm jumping to start getting these houses and buy me some buildings and do this and that and the other.
Now I'm jumping to start getting these houses and buy me some buildings and do this and that and the other.
But for the average street kid, when you see your man start rapping, like Lil Baby said, I wasn't a rapper.
My man put me on.
I just excelled at it.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's the thing.
But again, now you start seeing these boys start talking about business shit.
And I think it's just a progression.
I just think it's a progression.
I think that coming from where we from,
there aren't that many doors.
So let them run through the rap door.
If they're going to turn that into dealerships and buildings and whatever, God knows,
whatever businesses they could possibly muster up,
but you just got to live with the rap.
And to take some of the uncle off what I'm saying,
because I do see it's a little uncle-ish.
I wouldn't have a problem with none of Ice and Parks' points, music selection, or rap from non-rappers if I wasn't witnessing death all year long.
That's me.
That's me.
That's me.
They witnessing it, too.
This is my thing.
Got it. This is my thing. Got it.
This is my thing with it.
I understand.
I understand how rap works.
You report what you see in your hood.
But they promoting it.
I'm not.
It's not my business.
That part is not my business.
We would have been promoting it too.
When I say we, I mean our generation had we had social media-ish.
Nah.
We've been doing the same thing they was doing.
We don't come from that.
It wasn't there for us.
That's why.
Let me make my point.
Watch this.
Corey's my age.
Have you shot a nigga
when we was coming up?
You did not make a fucking song
about shooting a nigga.
Ish.
I'm not admitting to me and my team
killing seven niggas.
Listen, I'm agreeing with that.
We was raised different.
That don't got nothing to do
with the internet.
Yes, it does.
It really does
because they seeing this man
go and do it and blow up. Okay. And you seeing niggas going to jail for life you see this dude yeah
i've seen street niggas your age get in front of cameras with certain people and tell it all
i'm not gonna say their names but they locked up right now it's not a lot it's not a lot it's very very seldom no i'm not doing it either all
right y'all are bugging there's a very recent fucking version that is streamable now yes i'm
not gonna talk about because i fuck with everybody in that fucking show but yes yes they sit there
and with that camera you don't realize what is something about this camera in front of
niggas faces that something just happens.
Notoriety. All of this goes out the window.
Notoriety.
All the shit that you was programmed in, and yo, we don't talk to this.
We don't say this.
We don't do this.
Cut that red light on.
Yeah, we got this nigga because now I got to sell myself.
I got to make it seem like I'm the realest nigga ever.
And the way to do that is to tell you the shit that I did.
Yeah, this conversation could get so deep
this conversation could get really I'm just saying no listen what was the name of that that
doctor that I couldn't stop talking about uh about talking about the history of the
and this is just my brain I don't mean to get dark here at the end no keep going we're not guns is american shit yes
like american american deep american root at the root of it at the start before any of us was here
guns is how niggas did what they did right
this is only my brain who am i to think that i could take the white man's plant and make it my own guns ain't mine
I don't want to hear it
it ain't yours neither
now I'm with you doing what you have to do
for survival
but get aware
guns ain't ours and drugs ain't ours
the end
but you can't tell somebody that's starving
well I know
I'm only telling you
you know what I'm saying
that's just
that's just a vehicle
to get me where I need to go
I know
I want more vehicles
I want them to stop
arresting all of our
friends for weed
and then legalizing it
when they can turn
to the profit
yeah
I agree
I want them to stop
listen there's a report
out now that
Dr. Fauci friend friend of the show,
he came on the show, and he came on the show.
He went everywhere.
Fauci says that, hey, I'm not all the way sure that COVID was a natural thing.
Mm-hmm.
I have my thoughts on how it started.
Fauci.
And I don't think it was natural
the Fouchster
I just had you on here
to ask you all this type of shit
like what are you
wait so now y'all made up
some shit and then sold us the motherfucking
cure
no did you
the vaccine
oh it's not a vaccine it? No, did you? All right. The vaccine? Real, real, real. Oh, it's not a vaccine.
The shot, right?
The shot.
The shot.
It's not a vaccine.
It's not a vaccine.
It says it's not a vaccine.
It's not.
I don't know what a vaccine is.
Ish didn't say that.
A vaccine means you can't get it no more.
And if you can still get it after taking that needle, it's not a vaccine.
It's a copycat.
The shot.
Right.
It's a shot.
The shot.
It's like a flu shot.
That's why they don't call it a flu vaccine because you can still catch the flu.
I don't think white people are ever going to let us win
with things that are theirs. That's my point.
But what's theirs? Drugs.
States.
I'm going to tell you. I know we all
over the place. Borders.
What's theirs? And guns.
And laws. And police.
Guns are theirs. And the CIA. Religion.
And the FBI. Religion is theirs. God religion and the fbi religion is theirs god
might be theirs western religion is theirs yeah western everything western everything is theirs
guns are theirs guns and drugs well if drugs wasn't there they took it
and if the borders are there if the borders are there then drugs are there yeah
I was talking to the fucking car guy
but guns is how you keep power
car guy is telling me
all the cars are stuck at the port
fearing guns man
all the cars for the year
2021
are stuck at the port
and car dealers
talked about this last week
or on episode
that maybe is not out yet
car dealers are having a hard last week or on episode that maybe is not out yet, car dealers
are having a hard time
locating cars, finding cars and getting their hands
on cars to sell the cars.
And I heard that
and I immediately went to season two of The Wire.
And people hated season two.
I wasn't the biggest fan, but
I liked it. I loved it.
I loved season two. What else could be stuck at the port?
And what didn't get stuck at the port?
And?
When I was in Miami.
Who can make it unstuck?
When I was in Miami.
Ask the question.
Who could free it up?
Who could free it up?
When I was in Miami like a year and a half, maybe two years ago, I landed and it looked like there was customs there.
And I was confused because
I don't know anything about geography okay and then I kept it along pushing with my day and I
got with a young lady and she said hey man can we get some weed and I said yeah get some weed
he said I don't know anybody I said I'll make a phone call. And I made a few phone calls. And the weed prices in Miami might have been like 700 ounce.
Sheesh.
At that time, anyway, 600 ounce for backyard Reggie.
Wow.
For Reggie.
And a guy pulled up, told me the price.
And I said, explain it to me.
Just educate me.
I'm going to get it no matter what because you already want to smoke.
But why is this?
And he said, the port.
Oh, shit.
The port. He said, where Miami
is,
kind of tough to get weed over here.
So if you get some,
it's high end.
These motherfuckers.
I don't know what relevance that had to this story.
I was just on ports
and the government
and white people.
Every year,
Corey can attest to this,
they make some huge drug busts, right?
There's seven zillion keys
get caught on a boat somewhere
that Chase owned.
And that coat goes from $27 a gram to $52 a gram overnight.
Happens all the time.
It's happening right now with the fucking crypto.
I opened my fucking crypto thing by mistake the other day and had a heart attack.
I'm talking about cocaine.
I'm talking about white people controlling something and when they give it out and when they allow the public to benefit. It's what I'm talking about white people controlling something and when they give it out
and when they allow
the public to benefit
is what I'm talking about
same shit
the movie
Justin Timberlake
Out of Time
Out of Time
that was an amazing movie
I like that movie
people slept it
but again
real good movie
it was amazing
like one day
a gallon of milk
is $4
and the next day
a gallon of milk
is $4.50
and then
two weeks later it's $3.
Same shit that's going on
construction, all that shit. Somebody
somewhere is pulling these strings.
So when we decide to make money...
Real quick. Hey, me and Corey was looking
at watches a few months ago.
Them shit's higher than your ass pussy.
What was that watch?
The fucking Patek.
The same Patek with the beautiful gold band that was 100 grand two years ago.
Gold is high.
Gold is high.
It's 230 now.
Gold is high.
Gold is high.
If you can find it.
Gold is high as shit.
No.
So you got to have the money and be able to find it.
If anybody's wondering out there, that's what took me out of the sneakerhead game.
I'm laughing at y'all in the Jordans.
Hey, when I went in the store
to pick out a sneaker I liked and pay for it,
they told me to get out,
and I can't get it no more.
Raffle.
Go sign your name up for a raffle.
Excuse me?
These are all the things I think about
with the new world opening back up.
It's different.
Shit, I'm a gamer. We're opening It's different Shit You know I'm a gamer
We're opening up
To a different world
I'm a gamer
Look at the video games
They just dropped
Both companies
Dropped their new system
Last November
You still can't find
Them shits yet
And anybody that got one
What you called me
The other day
I called my man
Yo yeah 850
This shit is $4.99
My man was telling me
It was a chip shortage
It was a chip shortage Yeah It was a chip shortage.
Yeah.
There is a chip shortage
and that's why
these phones,
this is what I'm hearing
two are about
to have a hard time
because the fucking video game
people bought all the chips
and the phones need the chips.
Yep.
Everything.
My little brothers
have not left their bedroom
for a year.
I understand.
They won't go outside.
90 degrees.
Glued to the fucking game. They don't even speak when I walk in.
PS5. I understand.
I gotta walk in there. Yo, little niggas.
We walked in the house.
We didn't reset button that.
We was just there.
They didn't pay us no mind. I'm going to find a reset button
on that little PlayStation 5.
I'm going to find a reset button. They're PlayStation 5. I'm going to find a reset button.
They're going to stab the shit out your ass.
They're going to fuck you up over that.
Stab your ass, yo.
Don't say that.
That's one of my nightmares.
I keep showering and every little noise I hear, I keep thinking somebody I know is coming
to stab me.
That's how I know I've wronged so many people.
Mic check. two one two
Alright we out of here
Now for real this time
Do you remember
Hey who clue used to
Shout out to Coliseum
Who that was
Somebody every
Every take
Real good episode
Thank you brothers for coming
Shout out to the first And last time listeners, man.
Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there until the next time.
I bid you adieu.
Farewell.
Hasta la vista.
Adios.
So long.
Goodbye.
Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past.
So let's make this one last as if it's all we have.
Real quick before I go, I was trying to think those second-tier R&B people that I want to see in a versus a marion verse straight songs
I want to see it. He can do it. He can do it. He can do it
He might lose but I want to see it. That's the matchup. I want to see it a marion
I want to see trade songs. I want to see
They got to find a way to get out. What's my man name?
What's the genuine and one I just don't know if it's genuine gotta do it See the niggas I want to see they don't have 20 joints man name I want to see Genuine in one I just don't know against who Genuine's gotta do it
see the niggas I want
to see they don't
have 20 joints I still
want to see Bobby
Valentino I don't care
he's a movie
shit
oh you just talking
about the antics
alright
he got
listen
he got some shirt
he
not 20
not 20
no he doesn't have
20
and that's why.
But since you were disrespectful.
I'm not being disrespectful, bro.
Don't worry about it.
Now we ending different now.
Now we ending different.
Now we ending different.
Now we ending different.
Now we ending different.
Could you piss me off?
Yeah.
You don't need a verse, bro.
That's all I'm saying.
You don't have 20 joints, but stop disrespecting him.
I'm not disrespecting him.
Shut up.
You don't have 24 verses.
You're not speaking
to his character
yo if you're not speaking to a niggas character
you're speaking against it
now
let's end this correctly
the baddies are insecure.
The stagnant women are traveling.
They're at the Billboard Awards.
At the Drake dinner.
And the closed-minded women are being taught things.
If not from you, definitely from someone.
From Drake. Drake teaching them. I'm not going to say that. Are being taught things if not from you definitely from someone
I'm not gonna say that did you see the picture that the fans put they put the heart they put the heart on you
You see it. I'll show you I saved it. I don't want
You want to see it again?
Yo, we had a man everybody enjoyed Everybody enjoy their day. Go Knicks! Go Knicks team! Knicks team! I tried to tell you, I failed to, maybe I'll tell you another time How you keepin' me so preoccupied, yeah Painting on nevermind, no
I took too bad, I was blinded by the ghost this time
And that's a fact
We the burning wax, we the burning wax one of my favorite things to do is watch parks tap his little foot when I get the RV
Bobby V man and today's climate's probably better that she's just anonymous.
You don't need a name, man.
She's going to bring trouble.
Cut this off before the Timbaland verse.
Love you, Tim, but sorry.
Ashley, we're glad we could borrow.
Can we go home, man?
Don't do that to the legend.
Baby, what's your name? What's your name?
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Sounds so good.
That's your name.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
What's your name?
Mary Ann.
Mary Ann.
Oh, Kathy Lee.
Oh, Kathy Lee.
When I hold my head.
Let's get to it.
Wish that I want to ride.
That I want to ride.
Everything on me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hold on.
You got to get to it. Tell me what's it gon' be
I gotta know
I gotta know
I gotta know
I gotta know
I gotta know
I gotta know
I gotta know
I'm a thief, I'm a thief, I'm a thief
I'm a thief, I'm a big, I'm a DJ, I'm a break, and a little big.
Y'all didn't hear the back and forth between Timbo and Bobby B.
Just like, I gotta, I gotta know.
I gotta know.
We're going to do that on Sunday?
I gotta, I gotta know, huh?
They're going to do that on Sunday?
At the Versus?
At Live?
At Live? At Live.
Oh, I'm near Bobby B coming out.
Is Bobby B coming out?
You ain't going nowhere, man. Shut up.
Little Bobby B.