The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 449 | "Smell My Cologne"
Episode Date: June 23, 2021On this episode: Joe & the guys recap Father’s Day weekend (13:10) as well as rants from The Game & Ace Hood (22:00). Nick Cannon is expecting his 7th child (30:40), T-Pain shares a story about Ushe...r saying he ruined music for real singers (44:45), and J. Cole announces his tour (59:30). Megan Thee Stallion & DaBaby argue his collaboration with Tory Lanez and liking questionable tweets (1:17:45), and Dame Dash attempts to sell his stake in Roc-A-Fella (1:48:50). Black TikTok creators on strike (1:56:50), an NBA Playoffs update (2:06:45), Devin Booker (2:11:00), and MORE! For more exclusive content: become a Patron of the The Joe Budden Podcast at www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Snoh Aalegra - “LOST YOU” Ice | Gucci Mane - “DBoy Style” Parks | Benny The Butcher & 38 Spesh - “Love Left” (Klass Murda & Che Noir) Ish | Tafia - “Break The Bank” (Ft. Meek Mill)
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Mic check, mic check, mic, mic.
Maybe my voice just sounds like shit today.
Come on.
Could be.
I didn't even think that that might be an option,
that my voice might be off.
Since you did not think that was an option.
Yeah, I would never.
That's like the last option.
It's like, well, could it be me?
How could it?
That's the last thing in any equation.
Ice, you just asked a room full of grown men
if any of us had our red receipts on.
Yeah, we were discussing.
And I want to ask you, why would anybody do that?
Because y'all pussy, obviously.
Yes.
Pussilonymous.
Pussilonymous.
That's it then.
I get it.
Pussilonymous.
We said that a whole episode and Savon still named it something else.
That was a talent.
Sometimes I wake up in the morning really shocked about the decisions made.
Yeah, yeah, E. Immortalize me, E.
Immortalize me.
Talking to E, not J.
It's cool.
Go ahead.
What was the other shit he did?
I'm going to talk to Savon.
He just wild.
He do whatever the fuck he want.
What was I saying?
Yeah, why would we do that?
Why would we have red receipts on our text?
Red receipts lets the person know that, yo, I saw it.
I just, I respond when I feel like it.
I have control of my phone, not you.
You hide when you don't want nobody to know you got the message.
That's just pussy.
Puss-a-lonimous.
Okay.
I have an understanding, okay?
Y'all are pussy-lonimous.
Well, number one one i'm not hiding
my phone came like that it's you morons that gotta go in the shit to turn the red you don't
you don't go you don't you don't go into anything it asks you the very first message as soon as you
say hey no no phone no siri no no you can't hit me whenever you want yo no you only get my location
when i'm in the app no no
no phone
it's no to everything
nah
it is no to everything
now the fucking app
on the TV is turning on
yo you want me to track you
when you go out tonight
no
I want you to find the show
right
and that's it
that's it
that's it
alright
so now
you got your rare receipts on
absolutely
you do
cause I'd be happy
that you read my shit yeah nigga you got your red receipts on? Absolutely. You do, because I'd be happy that you read my shit.
Yeah, nigga.
You got your red receipts on for everybody?
Everybody.
But he never got women.
Oh, I mean.
It's been some years.
He's been in his relationship happy for years.
So it's been a while.
He out the game.
He like a guy that just came home.
I've always had my red receipts on.
When did you go in?
I didn't go in. When did your relationship start? my rubber seats on. When did you go in? I didn't go in.
When did your relationship
start?
A few years ago.
When did you go in?
So man,
shit changed in the single world
since he has been a part of it.
He's lost.
I'm not lost though.
Rubber seats has been a thing
since I was a kid.
When you get locked up.
All right.
I want to read your message
and then decide
what to do with it.
I don't want your brain to still have a part in what's happening when I have it.
I read your message, and when I reply, it's when I reply.
It's no different than the dots popping up.
That's me typing now.
No, no, no.
We need to have room for the lies.
What is he talking about?
I've never left my river seats on.
I need room for lies at all times.
Always on. Always on.
Always on.
Hey, yo, your points of view.
No, it's not mine.
Your shit be like.
Y'all niggas is crazy.
We pusillanimous.
Be that.
Oh, okay.
Stand up in it.
Well, I mean, I'm not pusillanimous.
I'm just saying.
Well, you have an Android, so you can.
We got rubber seats.
Oh.
Microphone check.
One, two, one, two.
One, two.
Never could have made it. I want to thank each and every one, two, one, two. One, two.
I want to thank each and every one of y'all for being here with us today.
Welcome to the Joe Budden Podcast.
Sing it, Marvin.
I feel you on that one.
I want to thank everybody out there that's still listening, still rocking with us.
Everybody out there that may be a part of our past That enabled us to get to this present moment That we have
Right this second
Because according to Ish and Corey
There are women out there
That all of us should be grateful to
For allowing us to exist
And not mom
Grandma
Not grandma
Auntie Em
I don't know what these goofballs No not M? I don't know what these goofballs.
No, not Auntie M.
I don't know what these goofballs are talking about.
It's just talking about something toxic, audience, if you're out there listening.
Surprise.
Shocker.
Yeah.
That wasn't toxic.
It could have been.
I don't even know.
So you speaking in specifics and you doing that thing that I don't like.
I'm going to turn the music up.
Wave your hands from side to side out there.
We hear you today.
Welcome, welcome.
Welcome.
This one has to be grateful to the side chicks out there that hold it down.
The ones that can keep a secret.
The ones that don't call your girl up.
Don't text her and give her the times and dates.
So she can cross-reference everything you ever said.
Wave your hand from side to side out there.
If you feel what it's just saying.
Today might go a little different for you.
But she held you down.
She loved you.
She was willing to wait for you.
She been wanting to sabotage your shit.
But she held it down.
Sing it, Marvin.
You're stronger for it today.
You're wiser.
You're welcome.
Give God all the glory. You're wiser. You know I'm better. You're wiser. Better. So much better. Much better.
Give God all the glory.
I'm bleeding.
All the praise.
And my storm ain't my test.
Brother Edge.
Because you were there.
Just carrying it through my midst.
I'm stronger.
I'm stronger.
No, no, no, no, no.
Yo, you really got a brain problem.
Yo, this guy.
This guy.
This guy.
This guy.
This guy.
This guy.
This guy.
This guy. This guy. This, you really got a brain problem.
Yo, this guy.
This is good.
Mic check one, two, one, two.
Mic check one, two, one, two.
I feel like I've been away from y'all for so long.
We here though.
Come on, man Fuck y'all thought
It's him still
That's what I was reminded of
This whole last few days that I've been out
I'm still him
We gon' talk about it
Oh, hey
Come on, man You don't know about this, man Don't you know you got me mesmerized
With the way you always fantasize
Don't stop the music cause it's true
I can tell you won't
I can tell you won't Hey, I even seen a fight break out the other night. That shit felt so good, right, E?
Them niggas started scrapping.
We was like, yeah!
Get that ninja, yeah!
He's been going long, yeah.
One thing about us, we gonna pick who we think the winner is
no matter what.
That nigga started getting his face slammed against the
encore.
He was.
I was like, he's gonna have a headache.
I just wanna rock you. Oh. Yeah. All just wanna rock you, oh, all night long.
He got rocked all night long.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm joking, man.
Shout out to y'all dudes that was scrapping.
I just wanna rock you, all night long.
Yeah, I got a love song.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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feel my polyps acting up was too excited this weekend was too amped on fall this day
microphone check one two what is this y'all know the fucking vibes uh say von where we at
welcome to episode 449 of the joe budden podcast he is I and I am him. Here with a few really cool dudes.
Parks is here in his Parks Corner.
Yep.
Ish is here.
Welcome, Ish.
And it's Ish Corner.
Thank you for joining us.
And it's Ish Corner.
Ish Corner.
All black.
You know the Irvington vibes when you see them.
When you see them in the flesh.
Ice is here with us with a lot of really provocative opinions that we're going to argue about.
We're going to argue about a lot today with Ice.
I might introduce that special segment
Let's Fight About Something.
Because you niggas now, you're now getting to hang a pod
and y'all finding things to fight about.
Nah, you niggas is crazy.
But yeah, I can't wait to argue with you.
We are crazy.
Y'all are crazy for that.
We.
How we crazy?
We are crazy.
We got a lot to talk to Ice about.
E is here with us.
He's our special guest for a topic that we may or
may not broach i don't know i don't know y'all i don't know if we man enough to approach i don't
know if we man enough to approach it i don't know i don't know uh cory here with us with his jail
muscles and we got a whole crew of niggas in the back. Hate niggas that wake up early and go work out in the summertime.
Want to put on the fucking small tee.
Nigga, get a bigger tee.
Hey, shout out to all y'all in the back
that I cannot see.
Thank y'all for being here with us.
You could have been anywhere in the world,
but you're here with us.
Gentlemen, how's everybody feeling?
How y'all doing?
Fucking great.
Why are you so damn great?
I don't know.
I had a nice weekend.
Went upstate and saw the family.
Got some wedding shit taken care of.
I'm chilling. I feel amazing. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey. Hey. Hey had a nice weekend. Went upstate and saw the family. Got some wedding shit taken care of. Chilling.
I feel amazing.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Clap that up.
Whoa.
Whoa.
How many thousands you spent?
A couple.
Yeah.
Look, look.
The wedding's a crack your muffin for one of you.
That's a big fact.
That wedding crep up.
Crep up.
It's here.
Yeah, it's coming.
He got it done.
Eight weeks away.
Man, are you nervous?
You scared?
How do you feel? I feel good. I feel good. Tell us about done. About eight weeks away. Man, are you nervous? You scared? No. How do you feel?
I feel good.
I feel good.
Tell us about this.
It hasn't been as stressful.
None of us have ever been where you are.
I know.
Anywhere close.
It's a new frontier.
It's not as stressful as people make it out to be, at least if you have good family and
shit.
I think it depends, too, on your relationship.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
We're not doing nothing super crazy,
you know what I'm saying?
Super duper cool,
so yeah.
It's actually kind of cool and easy.
I can see Rem being
like a broadzilla type.
Nah,
not at all.
So yeah,
I'm pretty sure
that helps you out a lot.
A lot.
A lot.
Well,
shout out to y'all,
man.
Yeah,
man,
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I can't wait
to just get that
shit done with.
Think something's
going to change?
I don't think so.
Not really. Not really.
Not really.
We'll see though.
No, they say,
some people say
it stays the same.
Some people say
it's a drastic,
drastic difference.
I feel like a kid
changes shit more
than a wedding.
Yep.
Oh, here come,
here come this.
Now, I've heard you
talk about the wedding.
I've heard you talk
about the honeymoon
I mean in your culture
do they skip the
the fun stuff the bachelor
oh no we're doing a little bachelor
I didn't hear nothing about that one
that must be at the secret spot
you said a little
well so we're gonna do one
it's gonna be kind of a sausage
it's gonna be one that's gonna be kind of a sausage
huh? wait So we're going to do one That's going to be Kind of a sausage Why you saying we? It's going to be one That's going to be Kind of a sausage Huh?
Why you saying we?
We?
Wait
It's going to be a sausage party
Like we're doing it
Like at a cabin on the lake
It's not going to be
No hoes that want to go to a lake
Okay
Wait you're doing what?
They do want to go to the lake
One half of the bachelor party
Huh?
They do want to go to the lake
Nah this shit is like
Wait hold up
We're getting somewhere
Yeah let's go
Let's get to it
You said we You said we.
You said we as in? Bachelor party.
Who's the we? Me and my
groomsmen. Oh.
And my best man.
I thought you said like me and Rem.
No, no, no.
The groomsmen.
The groomsmen. Pansy.
We're going to do a second one down here and get a little
mischievous.
Strip clubs. You know what I mean? Home's been pansy. We're going to do a second one down here and get a little mischievous. Okay.
Strip clubs.
You know what I mean?
What's up?
Why is this funny?
Just a sausage party.
I'm still hung up on it.
Well, it's hard to get.
So then you're coming back.
Dancers to go to a lake.
Like there's no cell phone service even there.
Like.
I know an agency.
In upstate New York, you guys are far away.
They travel.
I'm going to put you in contact with my people.
They travel.
The Great Bear Escort Service.
They would love to travel.
They would love a beautiful lake somewhere.
My best men are just trash.
All you got to do is bring a giraffe there.
would love a beautiful lake somewhere.
My best men are just trash.
All you got to do is bring a giraffe there.
If you bring a giraffe,
they right there.
They so amazed by shit.
That's a nutcase, yo.
That's good.
I'm happy for you.
Thank you. Congratulations.
Father's Day.
Father's Day.
Come on, let's get right to it.
A lot of fathers in the room, man.
Let's get right to it.
I see a lot of dads. Oh, don't niggas start looking to the side. Father's Day Father's Day Come on let's get right to it A lot of fathers in the room Let's get right to it I see a lot of dads
Hold on
Niggas start looking to the side
Father's Day
Birthday weekend
The whole shit was great
Oh yeah
It was your birthday too
I know we don't care for that
But give us all of it
Let's hear it
My shit was great
Like she kept trying to do
A bunch of shit
I'm like shorty listen
I work everyday
I really want to just take it easy
So she whipped up
One of my favorite meals
But like went way
Above and beyond
What was your favorite meal?
She made king crab legs
Lobster tails
Scallop shrimp
Clams
Veggie
Oh shit
She went all out
Oh she went to City Island
No
When I tell you
When I tell you
She did the shit
You were out
I looked like She became City Island Island. She became city island.
Yeah.
That's over.
Shut up, folks.
Newark Island.
Hey, yo.
Yo, he be coming out of nowhere like that.
Yeah.
Yo, part of the deal, y'all be jumping somebody, he just go get that. Yo, she went right are you going to do? Y'all be jumping somebody?
He just go get this.
I see all things.
She bought the bundle.
She bought the family pack bundle.
I heard the prices ain't low on them fucking crab legs right now.
So salute to her.
She did that.
She did that.
That's what's up.
How was y'all Father's Day?
Did y'all get presents?
Wait, not only are the prices up
On them crab legs
But they tell you with authority now
And dare you to not want them
Yeah
Nah this 27 ounce
What was that?
What's up?
You good or not?
They flying
Crab legs and chicken wings
Man they up
Oh nah chicken wings
Is a shortage now
You can't get wings.
I love that.
Wingstop is selling thighs.
Yeah, Wingstop got thighs.
That Rick Ross commercial, that Wingstop is thigh stop now.
Oh, shit.
I didn't see that commercial.
Come on, black people are the greatest.
Why?
They improvise?
Fam, we always have.
We just make it happen.
We make it happen.
We always have.
We're going to turn Wingstop into thigh stop.
You know, this is a good time for thighs, though, man.
Thighs are delicious.
And they're criminally slept on.
I'm good.
You don't fuck with chicken thighs?
It's my favorite part of the chicken.
Well, we're going to get to him.
Why could Ish not like chicken?
Hmm.
Let's just say take a second to ponder why that could be.
Now, with that said, I do like the thigh stop shit that this bro is doing.
Shout out to him.
But who was talking about Father's Day?
Who was that?
Who was that?
Ice.
Oh, Ice was.
No, Father's Day, the actual day sunday because i said birthday saturday sunday
what was the birthday gift i didn't hear that i can't it was she she did a thing that's something
yeah oh oh that's special yeah can't even tell us she did some wild special she touched your heart
yeah she did she really did all right right. All right, damn, nigga. Stop smiling at me. What the fuck?
I'm happy.
You don't like happiness, but I'm fucking happy.
Yeah, but turn your happy down.
Shit, you too happy.
No, that's the point.
I like being happy.
All right, so go ahead.
But yeah, Father's Day, I was like, listen, I don't want to do shit.
I want to really sit and do absolutely nothing.
Watch the Sixers game.
So how was your Father's Day?
That fucked your day up.
Father's Day.
You was out there calling Trey Daddy.
It's cool, though.
Damn.
It's cool, though.
Father's Day can be a really triggering day for a lot of people.
Father's Day.
Shout out to all the fathers out there. Shout out to the moms, too. But shout out to all the fathers out there shout out to the moms too but shout out to all the dads out there shout out to the dads that might have lost a dad
shout out to the dads that might have a tumultuous relationship with their child or children or
children's mother parent like it's just so many different ways where father's day can get tricky boy i got some
shit i got stories to share in here that i can't share but i learned so much on father's day just
about everything and everybody yeah yeah i had a real good talk real real real good in-depth talk
with uh trey's mom said come on man take me off. Get that restraining order out of here, man. Come on. Any luck?
Yeah.
I mean, I've only asked every year for the last nine years.
And she's like, oh, yeah, no, I got you.
But it just don't happen.
Yeah, yeah.
So that was great.
That's a Father's Day gift.
That's a hell of a Father's Day gift.
That's awesome.
And we just had a talk about just our kid and her marriage and how to do that even. There was a real grown up talk that we ended up
having to have after years of
maybe very mild. Do you have a friendly
relationship with her husband?
I've never met the gentleman.
She said that I should meet him.
Yeah, you should. Wow.
Wow. But even that.
Wow. This is
happening on Father's Day, buddy.
That's dope.
What the fuck?
That is dope.
That is very dope.
A lot of maturity.
Come on, man.
Clap it.
Clap it.
You fucking right am clapping.
Clap that up.
You fucking right am clapping.
So, Sarah, what y'all been through?
So, that was really awesome.
I don't even have time for your little stupid-
Sam, I didn't even say nothing.
Don't make your little Alvin and the Chipmunks face that you do.
When you start looking like Theodore in this bitch.
I see what you're doing over there.
Now, I felt good.
Ice felt good.
I felt good.
Amazing.
Leave me alone.
I didn't say nothing, man.
Then stop.
Fucking, so that was cool, right?
And then.
Very cool.
Oh, shit.
Then Cynthia got me something.
Well, from Lex.
It was his handprint
and some shit that he wrote,
but it was framed.
Took a lot of time.
I got a gift.
Whoa. Wait, wait, but it was framed. Took a lot of time. I got a gift. Whoa!
Wait, wait, wait.
Pit, am I?
What?
See, I sound like I'm just used to toxicity, right?
Yeah.
But these little things make men happy.
Not small shit.
These little things make men happy.
Or some thought.
It don't take much to make the dad happy, honestly.
That's true.
Thought.
I agree with that.
Just put some thought into it. The shit you happy. Honestly. That's true. Thought. I agree with that. Just put some thought into it.
The shit you put thought into.
That's dope.
Yeah.
So I brought Father's Day in with my kids.
That's how it's supposed to be.
That's dope.
That was just all I needed.
And it was everything.
And my baby saying, I love you all day.
And Trey came over.
And this is where it got funny.
Because Trey came over at around 3 o'clock.
Right? And my mom just happened to be there um and he came and said happy father's day y'all got you a card but i left it home it's boy shit nah sorry sorry buddy kicked him out
yo you got a car you have to explain that one to me
what do you mean
it's Father's Day
see and that's where
it can get triggering
for men
that's real
cause I watched
your little ass
prepare
for weeks
to get mom right
on Mother's Day
even if it was just
being available
even if it was just
the dinner
the thought
the effort
that went into it
don't show up now
without my card
if you got a card
and
and if you did nigga
you passed 17
you got a car
drug stores around
you got a car
and I ain't no dummy
but you can't spell card
without car
hey
so I gave him a hug
I went upstairs
my mom said
hey nigga
you better go to Walgreens
or something
and he went
and he got me a card and he got me a rose and he brought it back and he wrote something really special on it it touched my heart and I almost cried in my. I went upstairs. My mom said, hey, nigga, you better go to Walgreens or something. And he went, and he got me a card, and he got me a rose, and he brought it back, and he wrote something really special on it.
It touched my heart, and I almost cried in my house.
I was like, oh, see?
That's all I be.
I don't ask for much.
That's it.
That's it.
I don't ask for much.
So we hung out.
We kicked it.
My Father's Day was amazing, and I was filled with what I needed to be filled with, all of that good shit.
But I've been on the other side of that father's day
and i and i had that talk with my kid like i just had a lot of deep mature kind of talks
well i had to explain to my kid about well we talk see i'm blessed in that respect that my son
kind of kicks it with me right so and he kind of gets me a little bit so i could i have no problem
talking to him about my father's days where i was sad crying depressed in a mall because i wanted to
buy something but i didn't know the shoe size or i didn't know the shirt size and i didn't have
nobody to call because we was fighting yeah and i'm not seeing you but you live up the street
see it's not one of them things
where you pick up and you take the family to another state we 20 minutes away and we have to
go through this this way so i had that talk and just about the evolution of us and it's good it's
good but i but my heart goes out to the fathers that because that i'm not lost on that word because
it's tough for not only fathers, but a lot of moms too.
Which gets me to the games rant.
Yeah.
Did you hear that?
No, I did not.
The game went on a rant.
But don't do that.
He's not the only person that went on a rant.
Ace Hood went on a rant.
There were a few rapper rants on Father's Day from men.
And they were all different.
Ace Hood's rant was,
and I'll start there because we're going to focus on the games rant.
Ace Hood's rant was,
yo, I'm not having the easiest time with my kid's mom.
And this is
how it appears to me.
And it's tough because I want
to be there. Well, let me be there. It's that side.
But he was so eloquent in his wording and how he said it.
You know, he used to do yoga every morning and all that shit.
He come from the black love piece and all of that.
So you know what he's doing.
It looked beautiful.
But she replied, I'm not getting into that because his family shit is none of my business.
The games rant, though, was to his kids.
The six-minute rant.
It was a six-minute rant.
Yeah.
And he was talking to his kids. And he was saying, It was a six minute rant. Yeah. And he was talking
to his kids.
And he was saying,
what the hell
was that Showtime show?
Boy, did that look good.
Anyway,
the games rant
was saying how
he takes care of his kids.
He takes care
of a lot of people.
And for him on Father's Day,
there was just zero
to hardly any acknowledgement
from anybody outside
his oldest
child his oldest child did what he could with the budget that he had but everybody else he was kind
of like a afterthought for and he clearly felt a way about it because of how he shows up for people
all year long and i don't think he's alone in that no i doubt it he might be one of the only
niggas that'll voice it publicly you get i'm saying'm saying? Like, a lot of dudes be,
first of all,
your personal business is your personal business.
I don't know about
the public spotlight
for your family issues,
but...
Well, he don't have
family issues.
Like, he's dad of the year.
Like, he shows up.
No, no, no.
He's addressing his kids.
That's a family issue.
But he said,
he actually said that
in the video.
I'm doing this video
because I know there's a bunch of other dads out there that probably feel the same way
and can't get that out so i'm i'm just basically saying it for y'all too gotcha like that so he
addressed that part you know it's it's a society of uh these niggas be spoiled yo who our kids
yeah everybody like we the young the youth like 20 and down i just had
this conversation yo they so spoiled that they take that shit for granted right and you come
from a lot of us come from scratching and clawing and these little kids when you try to make when
you get successful you try to get them everything so they take that shit with a grain of salt like
it's nothing or your father buys you a car they look at that like
he only bought me
a Volkswagen
nigga
you get what I'm saying
like they look at it
like it's nothing
game got a couple dollars
so I'm sure his kids
are well taken care of
I've seen him
running around
with his daughters
and all of that
and they probably
just looking at it
like it's nothing
for him
for him and Durant
he took it
further than just
his children he took it further than just his children.
He took it to just people that I look out for throughout the year.
That's real.
Didn't even hit him and say happy Father's Day.
Gave me zero acknowledgement on this day that's supposed to be for acknowledgement of men like me.
No, I'm not.
I'm my kid's dad.
But boy, do I show up all year.
Yeah, that's real.
I'm my kid's dad, but boy, do I show up all year.
Yeah, that's real.
Like, and I feel him because on Mother's Day, we celebrate womanhood.
Of course.
We don't go investigating how everyone's motherhood is individually.
We celebrate it as a whole.
And he felt the way on Father's Day.
He did.
And I don't think he was alone in that.
Hopefully, him and his kids could talk about it.
And then he also mentioned in the video.
Holy shit.
Wait, I'm sorry, Ice, not to cut you off.
So the end of the night, Father's Day, I get a call from Trey's mom.
And he's there now.
They together.
And she says, yo, I'm just calling to tell you I just had a talk with Duke she didn't say Duke of course I just had a talk
with him and
next year
we're going to get you right because
it's important
let's get you right me
I'm going to make sure the correct amount
of attention and respect
is paid to you because of
how you show up and have shown up
in recent years for your kid.
Now she, I could have said recent years.
That's not the time for that with all this
growth and maturity shit going on.
So I look, fam, what?
What?
I took the time to say, well, I was
more than pleased with my roles in my card.
More than.
Because men, we don't take much.
But the fact that that was even done on the going to bed tip.
Conversation.
Come on, man.
You couldn't tell me shit on Father's Day.
I woke up on a whole other high.
Oh.
Got a brunch from my, come on, man.
Come on.
That's nice, man.
At the Father's Day brunch, I almost was about to pace.
I forgot.
That's how conditioned.
Come on,
man.
Don't tell me shit.
It's not no damn Father's Day.
I might have another kid.
I'm just.
You better bring the beat in.
Nah.
The beat ain't gonna say that.
It's wild. But no, like I was saying about the games.
Damn.
Yeah, this guy is so stupid.
What is wrong with you?
Yo, now everywhere we bring Ice to, he running around convincing other men to get their balls nipped.
So they can't have children.
Father stays out the window, Bryce. Look, he making Imani get their balls nipped so they can't have children.
Father stays out the window, Bryce.
Look, he making Imani get his balls.
I just told him.
I was like, yo.
I'm doing it.
He said he wanted more kids.
Yeah, 100%. And I said, yo, you need to do like I did.
What happens if you get married and your wife want a child?
God bless her.
And that's disgusting at a time.
OK, come on, come on.
It's cool.
Do what you want with your balls.
Thanks.
Oh, shit.
I got you tonight with that.
Yeah, please.
Forgot.
Forgot my guy last night, man.
Nigga had to go to work with just a regular lunchbox.
He didn't have that steel aluminum Lunch box with him last night
Make me go to
The Tupperware
The plastic shit
Yeah
The plastic shit
Why it took me a minute
To get with him
You didn't catch it
Talking about
You didn't catch it
Not in the beginning
Cause once you go
With the real lunch box
You can't go with
Just the regular shit
If you're going Flintstone Chumpy Poor baby Poor baby Because once you go with the real lunchbox, you can't go with just the regular shit.
If you're playing Flintstone, chumpy.
Poor baby.
Poor baby.
It was something important we had to talk about. Is anybody done with Father's Day?
My Father's Day was non-existent, as we all know.
So, you know, it is what it is.
I'm used to it.
You're in my prayers, of course.
Of course.
Of course.
Of course.
You know, y'all niggas.
You can nextas Roll tape Damn I gotta figure out
Something to do for the dads man
You know how like
They have friends giving
Dads giving
Yeah
There's gotta be something
We could do for the dads
That would be dope
That would be dope
Cause we all been there
I've been there
You haven't been there
Hopefully you'll never be there But you know I'm there Hopefully you'll never be there but you know i'm there hopefully still because that's the thing about that i'll
say this and i'll move on because i ain't trying to make this like a deep heavy teen summit type
of thing but but not letting somebody see their kid only affects the person that wants to see
their kid no that's not no no it affects the kid it affects the child well i know i know i'm only
speaking about despite aspect i'm talking about between, no. It affects the kid. It affects the child. Well, I know. That's what it affects. I know. I'm only speaking about the spite aspect.
I'm talking about between the adults.
It all affects the kid.
Yeah.
But I'm saying, you're not pulling a move on the person that don't want to see the kid.
Like, the true deadbeat, you ain't affecting him.
Right.
He out deadbeating.
Yeah, he don't care.
Fuck you.
You only twisting the knife to the nigga that-
Yo, he don't even really want to see it, and you just gave him the out.
Yeah.
You just gave him the out. Yeah. You just gave him the out.
Yeah.
And fuck you niggas, too, man, because, oh, my God,
the babies are so precious, man.
Oh, my goodness.
Come on, let's move on.
There's got to be something else important to talk about.
I don't want to get a men full of room crying in here
like we're watching a million little things.
You mean This Is Them?
Yeah.
I started watching that show.
This Is Us.
It was just This Is Them.
No, it was This Is Us, and then that is This Is Them. Nah. Yeah. No, no, no, Them? Yeah. I started watching that show. It was just This Is Them. This is...
No, there's This Is Us
and then that is This Is Them.
Nah.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no.
Yeah.
Keep watching.
Yeah?
Yeah.
That first season is This Is Us.
Keep watching.
It's a remix.
I got a list somewhere.
God damn it.
I feel you
because I thought that too
but they take it
and go a little bit.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Off air.
We had a little bit of smoke.
We have no smoke, Joe.
All right, listen.
Let's get right to it.
Coming off our Father's Day conversation, let's say his name together.
Nick Cannon.
All right, I didn't give you all a lead.
Give us a countdown, maybe. On three, we'll say, his name is Nick Cannon.
Okay.
For Ice specifically, you have to join in.
One, two, three.
His name is Nick Cannon.
Y'all laughing.
Y'all can laugh.
Let's get into it, though.
I am in awe of this stuff that he is pulling off here
and not even
because y'all call me
misogynistic and toxic
which is not true
what you in awe about
what has you in awe
I can't get
two women
to get along
I can't get
two women
to be friends
I'm not trying to either
by the way
but
I can't get
two women
to embrace each other and the babies that I put in both of them if that happened.
You could.
No, you could not.
You could not do nothing like that.
There's things you have to do that you don't do.
Check this out.
That is exactly right.
Nick Cannon is expecting another child.
Number seven.
Child number seven.
Can you pull up the name of all of these beautiful blessings
the children yes okay and the women okay all of it see ice and i have very contrasting views
when it comes to this okay and apparently when it comes to just spreading your seed
across the earth well he, he snipped.
Ice.
Yeah, that's why I don't really understand
why I'm even having this talk with a guy that snipped.
Yeah, one and done.
You're done after one.
Yeah, I am.
You don't got the cojones.
You don't have what it takes to get some real skin in the game
I chose that out
this is seven kids
he could have been
got his balls pierced
okay
and let me stop saying
I don't know the technical term
I'm just being funny
it's not that
I know
I'm just being ignorant you guys
we know
we let it go
but yeah
Ice
you have to put yourself
in the shoes
of the guy that is doing this act I'm not put yourself in the shoes of the guy that is doing
this act i'm not putting myself in the shoes of the tell the world your take first my take is this
is tacky and ghetto oh that's my take congratulations on the children but this a bunch of women in a
short amount of time kids everywhere is yeah this is this is let me ask you why you feel that way because in order to
raise children because all i keep hearing is yo he got the money he can afford it which is great
don't get our counter act before we get no no i'm telling you i'm telling you my take
it takes more than money to raise children indeed it takes time to be a father to a child it is impossible it is impossible
to have five families scattered across and to actively be a father to those children and
while maintaining your mogul position to keep the funding coming in to provide for these children.
It sounds like a lot.
I'm not going to hold you. I don't have any kids, so
it sounds like a lot. You know the biggest religion
in the world? Thanks, Ish.
Come on. I'm asking you.
It's Islam.
And what's the principle of Islam?
I don't know. Come on.
You do know.
You do know. What's the principle regarding marriage and. You got to piss Isha off to get him to.
You do know.
That's right, get him right.
What's the principle
regarding marriage and Islam?
I don't know.
I'm not Muslim.
I don't know.
You do know a bunch of them.
You from North.
What does that have to do with me?
You know a bunch of Muslims.
I could know Muslims
and not know what they feel
about certain shit.
You say it.
You know it.
Smart man.
What is it?
You do know in Islam
that they are allowed
to have multiple wives.
Correct.
I thought you said
you ain't know.
I don't know the fundamental shit.
Let's advance it.
So, in Islam, you are allowed to have more than one wife.
You are allowed to have as many wives as you can financially take care of evenly.
So, in the biggest religion in the world.
Where do they live at?
They live all over the world.
I don't know them. I know niggas right here in the United States
that got multiple wives.
What the hell was that down there?
So again, and they-
Don't come on if he gonna do that.
What are you talking about?
You said where they live at.
I'm saying-
He's about to go to where they live
and saying that wouldn't be applicable here.
No, that's not what I was going to.
I'm saying that where they live at saying that wouldn't be applicable here no that's not what I was going to I'm saying that
where they live at
in terms of
this man that has multiple wives
don't they
live in vicinity of him
oh
that's what I'm going to do
in a community
community yes
that's what I was getting to
I'm assuming so
okay
that's not this then
so I don't want to hear that
I think it varies by person
right
I think that would vary by person.
However, on your point, Nick Cannon got enough money, nigga, if they lived all over the world,
he could go there.
Not only does he.
If you got.
Hold on.
Hold on.
No, no.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
He could be in a different city every night if he wanted.
This is our new let's fight about something segment.
When you have all of these kids the same age, let's just say.
They're not all the same age.
They're all going to be close enough to the same age.
What the fuck are you talking about?
This year's crop.
We got four this year.
This year's crop
is going to be the same age.
What the fuck
is you talking about?
All right, so now,
you got four this year.
This year's crop.
Hold on, hold on, Ish.
Excuse me.
I'll let him get his laugh out first
because I want to hear your take.
Go ahead.
I'm listening.
You got four this year
and five years
when they're graduating
from kindergarten
and it's all the same time. do you go where do they first grade
what the fuck is he talking about what do you mean what's that what's that where do they live
where do they live they're all over you know all over you know that to be certain
yes they're all over what's all over me nigga they in the valley in california
but that part don't matter no no i'm trying to i'm trying to rebut what he's saying They're all over. Was all over me. Nigga, they in the Valley. They in California. Fighting Sherman Oaks.
But that part don't matter.
See, Ice is getting into shit.
No, I'm trying to rebut what he's saying.
Because he's acting like one lives in Seattle, one lives in Maine, one lives in LA, and one lives in Florida.
But if they did, see, that's not even enough.
They could live wherever they want.
They could live wherever.
Clearly, this is a plan.
Yes.
Like, we've grown enough to be able to pull a few things from this this is a plan oh yeah he's not reckless this is a plan of attack the condom ain't breaking
this many times this is all predetermined 100 i agree with okay so now listen for that no i'm not
contradicting wait let me just talk a little bit because y'all didn't want to advance this shit listen uh in that i assume he is having
this talk with multiple women prior to yes i'm now i'm just gonna guess here there may even even be
paperwork involved maybe possibly maybe probably knowing no one maybe i would i would assume so
the one thing i pull from the most which is where i started how it's tough to get two women to get along and embrace each other, especially when kids is involved from the same man or you're pregnant at the same time.
The female signed on.
When these women announced these pregnancies, smiles galore.
They are happy.
Nothing but teeth.
There's not a bad disparaging word or comment from any of her predecessors.
From any of the others.
They all
say congratulations.
It'd be welcome.
Can't wait to...
So that tells you all you need to know about what he's doing.
But that's why I'm confused about
why you say tacky and ghetto.
Because to me, everything about what he's doing is not tacky or ghetto.
There's nothing tacky and ghetto that I've seen. But this is where i don't like the double standard that exists in your argument
only because if we flip this this is when the women would come in and say there's too many ways
to raise a child no when we come in and say hey you need to be there we a man we a man we the dad
we need to be there the women come and i disagree with that argument when they say that awesome
awesome but they say it and there's some merit to it there is not one specific way to raise
a child so one of my main rules is i don't get into people parenting unless you are abusing a
fucking child or you're putting a child in harm's way because there's too many different ways to do
it indeed i'm minding my business hey they crucified adrian peterson i'm shutting up
that's your kid i'm out of that you was raised in the south how y'all discipline is too much
that goes into it all i'm saying is he has an understanding with the people that he's doing
this with and that's all you could ask for when you when you're doing this all right well we'll
see in a couple years because i still believe what will we see i still there's a child that's
gonna miss something, bro.
Y'all can say all that shit you want.
Not having your father there, bro.
You keep saying
he's not going to be there.
It's impossible to be there
for five families all over.
I don't think that's true.
Okay.
All right.
Let me ask you a question.
I don't think that's true.
Will you agree to disagree?
Let me ask you a question.
Let's just say he had a career.
You just have five girls
they split time with. Why couldn't they do it with five families? No, I'm going to ask Ice. Girls ask you a question. Let's just say he had a career. They just have five girls they split time with.
Why couldn't they do it with five families?
No, I'm going to ask Ice.
Girls and kids is different, Joe.
It is different.
That shit is different.
It is.
It is.
Let me ask you this, though.
Let's just say he had two kids.
We were talking about splitting time.
No, listen.
That's what his effort.
Not who you're splitting time with.
Let's say he had two kids.
Let's say he had two kids, but he had a really, really, reallyuous career right that that mandated him being all over he flew out a lot he was you know
he was in cells or some shit and he had to be in a bunch of different places what is the difference
you would your argument would be the same his time would be limited in one household
raising two children and the same wife with the same two kids but his time would be pulled
because he had to go make money for his family would you have the same argument amplify that times five is wild that's
all i'm saying bro it might not be to you to me to me i always speak for me then let me get to the
dormant then let me get to the dormant part then make it to the dormant part of this conversation
that i hate to have to bring up here, but we all celebrated Chadwick for his,
just for how he lived out his life
even while he was transitioning,
unbeknownst to anyone.
Boy, it was graceful.
What a class he put on.
Sure.
What if, just what if?
Mm-hmm.
What if?
That thought came.
What if?
We don't have to say it
what if he knows more
than we do
Nick
I'm sure he does
yeah
I never even looked at it
from that angle
I'm sure he does
I did
I looked at it from that angle
I'm just saying
because if it's me
and I'm not putting that on Nick
my brother I love him
knock on everything
hopefully
he's in the best condition
and health
that he could possibly be in
absolutely but if it were me and I that he could possibly be in. Absolutely.
But if it were me and I knew my time to be limited before anyone else.
And I had a plethora of resources to potentially pass along.
And I had a whole bunch of money.
Yeah.
And knew a whole bunch of women.
And I felt like I trusted enough to.
To raise a child.
I've had this talk with my female friends who wanted to try to have a baby some other ways.
I have too.
Right? Yeah. I have too. Right? You have.
Yeah, so I could
see a world where that exists and nobody
would say, oh, you evil, it's ghetto, it's
ratchet, it's classy. We got to be careful how we judge
and who we judge and who are we to judge.
No, and I was going to take
it a step further, and this is no shot at
anybody here because we all are in the same boat.
No, you're shooting at me. No, I'm not.
No, it's us. You're shooting at me no i'm not oh you know it's us
it's all of us
it's all to everybody here we all are in the same boat none of us are married but we all have
children correct right and so a lot of people view that with the same contempt and judgment
that you've absolutely yeah okay but you'll tell them what?
So what?
I'm asking you what you would tell them.
No, if somebody says that to me,
so what?
Nigga, this is my life.
I don't give a fuck.
Ding, ding, ding.
I'm not saying
this has to be,
this is my take.
Okay, I think we wrapped that topic.
But you call it tacky.
I think that topic is wrapped up.
And somebody can say
my shit is tacky
or your shit is tacky.
They can say it.
That's all. Ice, do you think that the way Puff my shit is tacky or your shit is tacky that's they can say that's all Ice do you think that
the way Puff raises his kids
is tacky
I don't know how Puff
raises his kids
to be honest with you
when you look at it
do you feel like
yo
cause he missed out on
maybe one thing
as hard as he goes
and as hard as you know
Puff goes
as an executive
but we see Puff
private jetting to
the fucking graduation
for the kindergarten
or vacationing with Chance
to all his kids. He's going to just keep talking away from the mic.
Corey, are you going to talk into the mic?
He got adopted kids and his own
biological kids that he's taking care of
from, they run the gamut. And he got
about three or four of them that's all in the same
range. And he has had to navigate
those things. So we've seen it
done. I disagree with you saying that it's
impossible. When the Grizzlies had their playoff game going uh moneybag yo's uh
son's mom made an entire post boy man that's like uh drake getting the thank you emoji when he sent
the challenge but she made a whole post appreciating him because i guess it was it was
kid's birthday and moneybag yo got three shows a day somewhere.
And he took the time out to take a private jet to the game
to pop up on his kid.
He made it with the last five minutes of the game.
He meant everything to the kid, and then he took the jet back.
There's just different ways to go about spreading your time.
Especially when you got ample resources.
When you can play different. Yeah, when you got ample resources. When you can play different.
Yeah, when you got ample resources.
And Nick plays different.
That money provides you opportunities that other...
Again, Kobe Bryant, dog, rest in peace, said, yo, he wanted to take his kids to school every day.
LA traffic prevented him from doing that.
The nigga bought a helicopter, man.
Like, yo, you play different.
You can play different.
I'm not saying you don't.
I'm agreeing with you.
You can absolutely
play different.
No, but we've
wrapped this one up.
We've wrapped it up.
No, you've wrapped it up.
I still stand
where I stand with it.
I know,
but you let Ish get you, man.
Fuck Ish.
On the next one,
I'm going to get you, Ish.
It's not even that serious, bro. We have a conversation. It's a conversation. Oh, wait. Me and Ice are going to get you. Oh, man. Fuck Ish. On the next one, I'm going to get you, Ish. It's not even that serious, bro.
We having a conversation.
Oh, wait.
He's going to get you.
Oh, yeah.
No, no, no.
We got him.
We got one for you.
You got to have a better showing.
Fam, it's not about me.
All right, so come on.
There's something else
that we got to talk about.
I'm not getting to sports yet.
There are some things
to get to with sports yet.
Oh, keeping on the...
Let's talk about
the T-Pain Usher shit.
I don't know why
I wanted to get on that
from what we was talking about,
but it related somehow.
T-Pain is the father
of everyone's style.
He got a bunch of kids.
He got a lot of kids.
He got a lot of kids out here.
I think it was more
a mental health thing
talking about whatever
we're talking about
about somebody saying something.
Whatever.
T-Pain says he went into depression after Usher told him
he kind of fucked up music by using
autotune. According
to T-Pain, this happened in a flight, on a
flight, commercial flight in first class
where the stewardess
tapped T-Pain
and said, yo, Mr. Usher wants to talk
to you in the back. So T-Pain goes back
there excited like anybody would be to speak to Usher
and Usher says, yo, dog, I got to keep it a bean.
You fucked us up.
You fucked everything up.
You fucked it all.
You really ruined music.
The fucking conduit for this conversation is funny in itself.
There's only two seats in first class.
T-Pain couldn't even look over and think he was talking to somebody else.
No, it was you.
You really ruined music, T-Pain.
You think that's how Usher said it, though?
Now can you go back to your seat?
I don't care how he said it. Can you go back to your seat now, T-Pain. You think that's how Usher said it, though? Now, can you go back to your seat? I don't care how he said it.
Can you go back to your seat now, T-Pain?
I wonder if he said that, but you know someone can say that and can also be kind of like
a compliment to what you're doing.
Like, yo, you so efficient at what you're doing that you kind of fucked it up for everybody.
I wonder if he really meant it in that way instead of like-
I don't care if he meant it in the worst way possible.
Or the best way possible.
Or the best way you mean.
Or the, no, the worst way.
Oh, okay. way possible or the best way or the best way or the no the worst way okay if he meant it in the worst way possible for t-pain to say and again i can't knock the mental health thing you're a grown
ass man you're making a shitload of money if you allow usher to put you in a four-year depression
you need to grow the fuck up he said hey hey hey excuse me hold on hold on go for a second
you're the same person that told me I was wild
because my words to a rapper,
if I say your shit is trash,
I don't know how it affects them.
I didn't say that.
You did say that.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
No, I didn't.
I said, you don't know what the ramifications are going to be
when you get face-to-face with that rapper,
is what I said.
And when I told y'all,
I don't give a, I'm not,
the odds of me getting face-to-face wasn't my thing.
If I say something's trash, y'all was telling me that I don't know how it can affect them.
I was telling you that.
I didn't say that.
You did, but it's fine.
No, no, no, I did too.
You did, but it's fine.
No, I didn't.
And I stand by it.
I didn't say that, though.
Look at how orange eagle you're talking to.
You think he don't got his debate shit right?
No, I would tell if I said that.
I didn't say that.
Listen.
I know, I'm backing you up here.
I said Ice has the ability to affect a nigga's album sales and affect a nigga's money.
So when you start affecting a nigga's money, a nigga can affect you in a different way.
You got to be prepared for that.
And I used Maul and the Griselda niggas as an example.
That Maul is fly with Griselda.
We fly with Maul.
It's a possibility we
could all be in the same room and the nigga might have a problem and now what all all over you being
able to use better words and you didn't that was what i said and that was that if i ever have a
problem with a rapper in the studio i pray to god that i find out before i get to the studio
can i just say that that happens too often you never do that you know i know and i don't
understand how how do we end up in the same recording space and one of us has an issue real quick i thought i had
a problem with a rapper one day i was nervous as shit not you not you mr trashy let me tell you
who and why and i never dissed this man uh real quick um dj drama had a listening session for his
album it was in the city Drama tells me
Come to the session
I get there
Every rapper's there
I'm there by myself
He's shouting out
Everybody in the building
Yo shout out this person
Shout out this person
Shout out my nigga
Fishly Ice in the building
I see
And he used your social
That was a setup
That's all I see
No no he wasn't
I'm joking
Nah he used your social government Out of nowhere a setup. That's all I see. No, no, he wasn't a setup. I'm joking. No, he used your social government.
Out of nowhere,
dude come walking over to me.
Don't use my real social names.
Yo, you ice?
I'm like, yeah.
Yo, the homie want to holler at you.
Gotta put your foot back.
The homie want to holler at you.
He gotta get that seat right.
Nigga.
The homie standing right here,
he want to holler at you.
That's always the worst question.
Yo, are you you? You can't say no's always the worst question. Yo, are you you?
You can't say no.
Oh, my God.
So, look.
I'm you, you.
Yo, are you you?
Yo, are you you, yo?
Listen, we walk over there.
It's Maino.
Okay?
This is back when Maino had the reputation of slapping the shit out of people.
What do you mean, back when?
He ain't, like, you know.
You know, I'm not saying he won't.
He ain't what?
This is back when Mano was actively
slapping the shit out of people
when he was finding out about it
actively
okay
is that better
that's my man man
that's my man
no that's my nigga
I don't want to go
you know what
I think I had an issue
with Mano one time
you had to get his number
from me
but look
you had a few issues
with Mano
but look
so he
I'm like
oh shit in my head i'm like
yo i never said nothing about me no right he got four niggas with him they backs up against the
wall he's standing you know he smiled all the time so i don't really know he felt like putting
something in the sewer that day too so i go over there and i'm like yo what's up he's like
yo you ice and uh the dude that introduced us was actually Nick.
He goes,
yeah, yo, what's about to happen
should have happened a long time ago.
I'm like, fuck that mean?
So I'm like, all right, look.
What you did, brace your chin?
No.
Swear to God.
So you could do it.
I saw the smallest nigga in the crew
that was right next to him
and I was just like,
Oh, you said it on him.
No, I said,
if he swing,
I'm going to swing on this one.
He got to go.
I'm going to get one. They might jump me gotta go I'ma get one they might jump me
but I gotta get one
your niggas swear
we got that much like
yeah I was on Batman time
nigga
a nigga swing
you might hit the bat
come to find out
man those coolest shit
he dabs me up like
yo I fuck with you
on the social shit
you be getting these
keep getting these niggas upset
yo my nigga
but boy
and you took that
and decided to keep
getting niggas upset
sweet told me to do
and you walked away and decided to keep getting niggas up sweet told me to do and you walked
and you walked away
like this
but yeah
but back to that
who's side are y'all on
in this T-Pain
and Usher thing
I don't want to stay
on this too long
T-Pain side
he did not fuck up music
he made music better
you're on T-Pain side
that what
he did not fuck up music
he made music better
oh I don't think
he fucked up music
neither nobody thinks that nobody thinks that I'm talking about with regards to him Payne side that what? He did not fuck up music. He made music. Oh, I don't think he fucked up music.
Nobody.
Nobody thinks that.
Nobody thinks that.
I'm talking about him saying he was depressed for four years because of.
Oh, that's just.
I can see how that.
I'm sure is a fucking megastar.
Megastar and influence on everybody that sings. If I'm T-Pain.
Let me be clear.
Usher uses auto-tune.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Can I just throw that in there
Yeah
He may use it differently
But he uses it
He might not use it
For every song
But niggas was using auto-tune
Before T-Pain came around
Yeah but T-Pain
I have an issue
If I said something to you
Four years ago
That's what they're gonna call me toxic
Yes
If I said something to you
Four years ago
And you was fucked up for the next four years.
Grow the fuck up.
I have an issue with you now bringing that up four years later
to tell the world how these words affected you
in the event that you might not have even ever told me.
Yeah.
Well, people don't always tell the person.
Then don't tell the fucking public then
that's true the fuck are you talking about because now hey let me sit me down if mental health is at
the forefront here then i don't know that you speaking about how i affected your mental health
to the public won't weaponize them to affect my mental health. Because that happened. Now I got to worry about
how Usher feel getting attacked
while he's trying to make an album with Jermaine Dupri
somewhere and I'm trying to get Confessions 2
or 3, whatever number he on. 2.
This is 2. Yeah, I don't know what
number he on. 1 was
2 and then I learned it was 1.
And then that was the fire one.
It was the first deluxe. Then it was, I don't know man.
I just think that if you're confident. I think I have mad things to confess. He was the fire one. It was the first deluxe. Then it was, I don't know, man. No, I just think that if you're confident.
That nigga had mad things to confess.
He was fucking Chili up, bro.
Yo, you stupid.
Yo.
He was on Chili's ass.
Every week it was a new confession.
A voicemail, nigga?
Don't set up your voicemail, usher.
Yo,
I just think that if you're a confident artist,
you know what I'm saying?
That's asking for a lot. Yeah I'm saying That's asking for a lot
Yeah yeah
That's asking for a lot
With your Snow Allegra shit
When you was like
Yo Snow should've pushed
Don't repeat it
No
Don't repeat it
Don't even repeat what I said
I know
I know
And I hope that she didn't hear it
No but my
But you remember
My stance was
Nigga I'm fire
Panda panda panda
No I'm just saying
My shit was
My response was
Nigga I'm fire I don't care who's dropping I'm fire. Panda, panda, panda. No, I'm just saying. My response was, nigga, I'm fire.
I don't care who's dropping.
I'm dropping.
That's your confidence.
A lot of these niggas are insecure.
Artists in general are insecure.
Artists are insecure.
A lot of them.
A lot.
I don't want T-Pain, and he may be purposely trying to do that.
This is my brother right here.
I love him, too.
I don't want him to become story guy.
Oh, I like T-Pain stories.
Yeah.
I like them
when they come but if you just about to have a story every week like last week you told us how
nikki minaj uh whatever she did the song and blah blah blah and then she replied yeah i was fucked
up a month ago you said yo you just learned how to work the dms. Y'all got a story. And then it was Mads. T-Pain. Like, T-Pain is so great because he's, for me, him.
That's it.
I'm me.
I do what I do.
Y'all follow it.
You don't follow it.
But maybe he's trying to get back out there.
See, to me, he's out there.
I like T-Pain doing all this shit.
This shit is...
He's an entertaining person, man.
I like what he's got to say.
He's a well-thought-out and unbelievably talented dude.
Now he's funny.
And he's funny.
See, I think that's such a contradiction
Don't tell me that somebody
Is so unbelievably entertaining
If they need to use
Someone else's name
To entertain us
I don't know
He was in the band
Then you're proving my point
I don't
That's the question
And this is where they clicked
I don't believe
Somebody asked him
Yo Usher fucked your
Hell
Somebody said
What they said to him
Yo we heard that there was a story
We heard it was Usher
You and Usher
On a plane Alright let me just tell you You can say that to heard that There was a story We heard it was You and Usher On a plane
Alright let me just tell you
You can say that
To any musician in the world
Yo I heard it was
Such and such
Uh huh
You don't have to say
I think T-Pain
Is interesting enough
Without the DMs
Without the Nicki Minaj
Without the Usher
Without all of these
Stories
Like leave that shit
To Fat Joe
I like that shit
Yeah I like it too
Yeah
I like the story
I'm not mad at the story.
I'm just kind of like, in order to pick a side,
I kind of want to get an understanding of what ushers mean
for having that conversation.
And I'm not trying to pick a side.
I'm glad T-Pain is well, because if I'm going to take him at his word,
this really fucked him up.
And that gets into the deeper conversation about things that we say to people
and how they receive and how it makes them feel.
And it gets into that shit Cat Williams said here about, listen,
the speed limit is there for a reason.
Sensitivity police will always be there.
You can still say whatever you want,
but you have to deal with the recourse of what you say.
Yeah.
The end.
Shout out to T-Pain and Usher.
Usher, I'm waiting on this album.
I am.
Because I see what Jermaine Dupri in there doing.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, he in there.
You want crazy? He in there doing oh yeah yeah he in there he in there
he in there
at all hours of the night
pacing around
Brian Michael Cox
in there one night
this nigga over there
one night
I like seeing the people
that I know are working on
album the greats
geniuses
but they're not
telling you
they just doing it
like Puff is working on an album
you can see it
he ain't saying
hey my album's coming out
but
he in with all the people.
Jermaine Dupri is in with Usher.
Usher got some shit coming.
It's going to be beautiful.
And it look like JD, if I'm just saying shit,
unfounded, with no basis or merit, which I am.
Got a little chip.
I think so.
Yeah.
I think so.
I think we've been seeing that.
He don't be getting his just due.
I think so.
Yeah, he don't get his just due.
Yeah, I think that he feels that way.
Yeah. And I think he's going to. He's just due. I think so. Yeah, he don't get his just due. Yeah, I think that he feels that way. Yeah.
And I think he's going to-
He's expressed it.
I think that-
I think he's going to use this Usher album to remind you niggas who he is.
Yes.
Speaking of, speaking of, right?
I saw a clip on, I saw a clip of Stephanie Mills on The Breakfast Club.
Okay.
And they were asking her about verses.
And she said her and Chaka Khan's people spoke to each other. Hmm.
Really?
Yeah.
Hmm. yeah I would like to know more about that
if it's true from Tim
or Swiss
because you could have saved some of these
shits and given me Chaka Khan versus
Stephanie Mills I don't want to age us
even more than I have in the last two months
but boy would I love
to see that I've loved the
old head
versus all of them
The older artists
The legacy artists
How many have there been
Two
Depends on what you think
Old is
Yeah exactly
I know we had the
Earth 105 joint
I know we had the
Patty and
Gladys
Gladys joint
I know Babyface and
Teddy wouldn't be deemed
Old old to us
Do you think
Ludacris and Nelly
Wasn't old
Babyface
Not to us That's borderline Yeah that's Tonelli wasn't old? Babyface. Not to us.
That's borderline. Yeah, that's what I'm
saying. So Babyface Teddy Riley was a little
bit older. That was older.
That borderline is. The 80s
grace. That's older.
We just are familiar and aware.
Listen, I would just like
them to push that through Stephanie Mills versus
Chaka Khan. I don't even get
how you could be uninterested in that word but whatever maybe we are so excited that
outside is out and if you've been living under a rock outside is open it is i said outside is out
outside is open it's out it's out it's out outside is out and straightening is happening
yeah niggas are getting straightened up on the line.
See why I don't get in line for shit?
That's where the fight is happening.
You know security was hyped too because they didn't do nothing about it.
Security was just like, all right, we're going to let them get this off of us.
People have been locked up inside, reading the internet for a year, going fucking nuts.
But you're getting on line frustrated.
I don't know no line you get on outside of the Cinnabon line where you happy.
There's no line.
They on that line, frustrated, angry.
Yeah, a lot is going on.
So the dude got mopped up?
Yo, we drove by.
We went to go do an escape room yesterday, Parks.
Oh, yeah?
Damn, they open. They didn't want to bring it up.
We went to go do an escape room,
and our thirsty asses as we riding in Englewood
all of the white people
were on the grass
outside
watching like an outdoor concert
it was like
they was having
white Coachella out there
for real
they was jamming
live jazz
I saw the bullfighters
packed out the MSG
yeah come on man
sold out
yeah
that's
it's crazy to see
sold out arenas
yeah that part.
You know what I'm saying?
We back.
Yeah, motherfuckers couldn't wait to come outside.
I can't wait to go to a show.
Shit.
Like I said, Lil Baby and Dirk announced they tour, and it's called the Back Outside Tour.
That's the name of the tour.
Yeah, they announced the tour.
I got that round of applause for everybody out there that's announcing the tour.
Yeah, it's back.
I'm going to see you on the J. Cole tour.
The J. Cole tour? Yeah. 21 Savage and Moray. Oh, he did back. I'm going to see you on the J. Cole tour. The J. Cole tour?
Yeah.
21 Savage and Moray.
Oh, he did announce.
Okay, because I saw him flirt with it.
I didn't know he actually announced the tour.
Okay.
He put dates out.
Nice.
Everybody's on the tour.
Touring is back.
Touring is back, bro.
It's going to be a good year, boy.
Yeah.
That's true.
Yo, Gotti, I need a CMG tour.
Make that happen, please.
Go ahead.
Just had to say that. I need police escorts. That's fine. I need a CMG tour. Make that happen, please. Go ahead.
I need police escorts.
That's fine.
I need a CMG tour.
Bad.
Where was I going?
I was going somewhere.
You were talking about the escape room.
Escape room.
I don't care.
We lost.
You lost?
Bro, this is a different type of room. That's why it was trash?
We didn't escape the room.
Parks, hold on.
This is a different type of escape room.
This was the worst escape room I've ever in life.
Why?
Like, to get to the room was an escape.
It wasn't well put together.
It was bad.
It was just a bunch of clues.
Oh, you went to?
Yeah, it was bad.
We all went.
It's the first part.
The first part to even get to the room,
they was like, yo, park into this parking spot
and set your radio,
and then it'll tell you where to go.
It started in the parking lot?
Yeah.
It started in the email.
It was like, park in the handicapped spot,
turn your radio to a certain frequency.
Once you turned your radio to a certain frequency once you turned your radio to a certain frequency
the fucking
voice
saw voice came on
and started talking to you
and then told you
where to go from there
why was it black?
it was supposed to be
a horror room
was it?
a scary room
it was supposed to be scary?
yeah I didn't know that
the room was poorly set up
one clue didn't
they weren't in chronological order
one thing didn't lead to another
we were solving shit just by guessing.
How to solve the shit.
Got it.
It just wasn't.
We was in there with this other white family.
They had two kids.
And they were pretty good.
We were all right, and we still didn't get out the room.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, we didn't get out the room.
Yeah, we didn't either.
Yeah, I wasn't mad at little Jimmy and them.
No, no, they was getting busy.
It was good.
It was cool.
They was getting busy.
I liked them, man.
We should exchange numbers.
They was getting busy. I love cool. I liked them, man. We should exchange numbers. They was getting busy.
I love making friends.
Making friends, yo.
You're big on that this year, making friends.
Y'all keep laughing at me.
I think it's so important as a 40-year-old man.
Sure.
Take that.
I think it's super important.
I think that as men, we shut that part.
I think there's a phase where we shut that part down.
We start subscribing to this whole no new friends and this and that. my friends and coming from the hood coming from the hood we don't fuck with men
and i'm trying to get out of that i'm trying to get out of that a lot of people that i've met in
my life you niggas are shitheads i want to meet more people i don't want to just subscribe
yeah no open me up to some new shit.
That's what it is.
Homeboy said he's going to pick me up at 4 a.m.
and we're going fishing.
Let's go.
I'm up.
Whatever car he in.
I said, I don't have a fishing pole.
He said, I got you.
Come on, man.
A brotherhood.
I don't like this conversation.
It's a brotherhood.
You don't like the dude having a spear fishing rod?
I just don't like how you said it. But nah. spear fishing rod Nah I just don't like How you said it
But nah
It sounds cool
I just don't like
How you said it
No bullshit
But little dumb
Networking shit like that
Be the plug to get you
Of course
You know what I'm saying
To a place
That you want to be
You didn't realize it
No bullshit
That's real shit
We out here
Fucking with the same
Fuck niggas
Just cause you knew
Them for 30 years
Right
Y'all ain't friends Y'all just knew them for 30 years. Y'all ain't friends.
They still in the same space.
Y'all just knew each other a long time.
Y'all don't necessarily be friends.
You get what I'm saying?
So opening up to meet new people
is a good thing, I think.
I'm with you.
Or it could be really bad.
I mean, it's a risk you take.
But you've been around a bunch of bad niggas.
Who wants to hear a story?
Oh, boy.
Let's go. Just a quick one. You're the greatest.
Actually, it's not even. No, you're the greatest.
It's not quick. Please read the story. I hope it is.
Yo,
niggas be subscribed to this shit, man. You start
telling the truth on here,
I'm about to ruin your life.
I got so many stories to share, though.
One,
a night, a night, because you can't name nights and days, though. One, a night.
A night, because you can't name nights and days.
On a dark, dreary night.
I was bored, right?
I didn't have nothing to do because I don't have friends.
And I'm obsessed with work.
So it's just work, work, work.
And in a moment of transparency, that has been a big thing for me in my own head. Like a part of finding myself.
Yo, nigga, what do you enjoy?
What do you like to do alone?
It's you.
Yeah.
You could do anything in the world.
Yeah.
Why in bed?
Well, because I like to bed, yo.
Nigga, shut up, yo.
Like those are the talks I'm having, right?
No, dude, that's real.
That is real.
Yeah, I've asked myself that.
Like, yo, yo, yo, I was joking about Shorty not being there with the baby.
What do you want to do?
And I'm like, damn.
I want to go home and be alone and play the game.
Yeah.
Because that's what men typically want to do when we get the option.
We just want to chill alone in the house or some shit.
But so I've been toying with that, right?
So I'm figuring it out.
It can't just be strip clubs and hoes.
But until I figure it out. It's't just be strip clubs and hoes. But until I figure it out.
It's going to be a strip club.
Round of applause for strip clubs and hoes.
And they ain't going nowhere.
And for the fellas understanding.
You know what I mean?
So anyway.
So I call up one of the homies.
And I say, yo, man.
I ain't doing too much of nothing, man.
You want to just step out?
Step out.
Have a good time. Strip clubs. He's like, sure, man. I ain't doing too much of nothing, man. You want to just step out? Step out, have a good time at the strip club?
She's like, sure, man.
I'll meet you over there.
It's like, all right, cool.
She meets me over there.
She's not alone.
I felt like that part should have been shared when you're talking to your homie,
especially your famous homie,
when you're just bringing a random person around.
Sure.
The plus one that nobody knows from a can of fucking paint.
But I'm open to meet new people.
Hey, girl.
Hey.
Do you hear this nigga voice?
Boy, she was annoying the entire night.
The plus one.
Yeah.
Not annoying to me because I'm a doll.
I handled it with style and grace.
But she got entirely too drunk and she didn't handle her liquor well.
Now, I don't know if it's that or, well, that's a topic for another day.
The liquor that you order and what you get.
What you mean?
I won't say it here.
Can I also?
I'm just saying, if you go somewhere and you order something.
Oh, when they pour like a different
liquor into the bottle you talking about?
No, that's regular shit. That's common.
New York anyway.
Yeah, but I've been
seeing some things this week.
I don't know what happened during quarantine, but the poor back is sicker now.
That's just saying you right to throw up.
I've seen people catch it bad.
They put the E and J right in the head.
Oh, my God.
It's bad.
But anyway, so she didn't handle it the greatest.
It didn't make for the most fun evening.
Right?
Never does.
So I just went home, called it a day.
Never goes well when you try to chase the fun.
That's true.
Next day, I'm back on the prowl.
Chasing, chasing.
Looking for, ooh, who's having a kickback?
Who's doing something?
Who came to New York today?
What's happening?
What's happening out there?
Ooh, right?
I call up the same homie.
Yo, leave your home girl home
Because
Yeah the night was only fucked up
Because you brought the plus one
That fucked the night up
So I call up the homie
Yo
I'm already out and about
She says yo
Having a penthouse party
This is my party
It's going down
We got fireworks This is my party. It's going down. We got fireworks.
This is gonna be a
fucking vibe. It's gonna go
crazy tonight. You can't miss it.
You can't miss it.
There'll never be another party like this again. I'm like, what?
Sold.
Let me get dressed.
Let me throw that shit on then.
Right? This type of stuff only
happens to me.
I get there how can I say this
I get there
and
I go up to the penthouse
but it's not
when you tell me a penthouse party
I'm thinking it's a penthouse party
sure
but this ain't a penthouse
this is a
third floor
this is a
no it's a
this is a top floor okay and it is a penthouse. Sure. But this ain't a penthouse. This is the third floor. This is the top floor.
Okay.
And it is a penthouse,
but this is a nigga's crib.
This is a nigga's crib right here.
Did he clean up before you got there at least?
No,
they was partying in there.
And not only is it a nigga's crib,
he's an MMA fighter.
Oh shit.
Like a professional?
Like a real one?
They don't matter.
You're an MMA fighter.
What the fuck does that matter for?
You're an MMA fighter.
What if he was a fake one?
I don't want to see the amateur.
I don't want to see the ones in training.
I'm not a pro.
I don't want to see the kids.
He's a professional to me.
Yo, if you're related to an MMA fighter, man,
salute.
Salute.
Sure.
So that's what
Mars is.
What?
This is trouble.
Okay.
I would think
Anyway.
I would think that
a successful,
famous MMA fighter
would have a certain
level of serenity.
Segwa.
That's true.
That's all I'm saying.
Well, your view on fighters is very
different from mine. I think they have a lot of
inner turmoil from
somewhere in life that they can't wait
to put on your face.
I don't think they as
serene and tranquil.
I'm pretty sure that the D-League, MMA, the guys that still come up,
they're probably pretty wild in their house parties is all I'm saying.
I think the ones that have made it have a button that if it's pushed
and they can activate it at any time,
this can get real Hurricane Kick Ken Ryu in here.
So did someone push a button?
No, but I mean, the gentleman
just didn't look the happiest
to see Joe Button
in his house.
In his house. Did you offer to walk him
to the ring? I was the sweetest guy.
Yo, man, I heard so much about you. You're
awesome, man. You're great.
Good luck. You that dude.
They're like, word. Thank you.
He was short with it you he was short with it
he was short with it
what is this
he didn't smile
he didn't smile
so I just went
to the back
and
stood
in the wall
like you do
when you're in timeout
in kindergarten
you faced the wall
I faced the wall
I didn't want niggas
in my face
yo just imagine
that you had a party in the corner.
But look at this.
Please tell me you're doing this for fun.
You ain't put your face in the middle of the wall.
Yeah.
Hey, yo.
Bitch, you've been with me enough.
If I walk in the club, you know I'm going to find the empty corner and get there.
Of course.
I just am not normally going to stand about face.
Right.
But if I see a bunch of people whispering and playing,
hey, is that Joe? Is that Joe? And the MMA dude is like, nigga, I'm going to stand about face. But if I see a bunch of people whispering and playing, hey, what's up, Joe?
And the MMA dude's like, nigga,
I'm going to fuck you up, nigga.
You better get the fuck out of my house.
So I just stood there
and admired the wall.
Where was the homie?
Oh, no, no, no. She came over and was talking
to me, like, for the whole time.
I'm trying to tell the story.
No, please tell it.
I can't tell it.
No, please.
I can't tell it.
I can't tell it.
Tell it.
You got to hear it.
If you don't hear it, then you don't hear it.
But the homie that invited me.
Was the MMA nigga.
No, no.
I don't know that.
I don't know that.
I don't know that. It's starting to
feel like it's implied though. Yeah.
The point is you're somewhere and you don't
know. You're somewhere
in somebody's house and you don't know
and they are an MMA fighter
and they don't look the happiest to see
you're pumping it up ass
in the corner somewhere. That's all.
That's it. You got invited
by the niggas work? Yeah, man. No, well, I don't know that part. You got invited by the nigga's work? Yeah, man.
No. Well, I don't know that part. I got
invited by my friend. So that just led to a
conversation about how
about how
homegirl might get you in a jam
without really paying
any mind to the jam that she got you
in. Sure. That's all.
If Mr.
MMA is listening out there, salute to
you. Beautiful home.
Beautiful. Did you see much of it
with your back turned?
Beautiful wall in the corner.
Nice paint.
Boy, can he
throw a little kickback?
Did you even see the fireworks?
I left. I went home, man.
Am I staying out? I i went home how many cigarettes did
you smoke oh my jesus all of the cigs you know there's a lot going on there's a lot going on
um but anyway all for that so that was all to say that your girl or a girl friend. A girl, yes. Associate. Like literally a platonic
platonic
friend that I, we don't,
it's none of that.
It's none of that present at
all. But I left there that
night saying, oh shit, man.
Kind of wound up in the octagon.
Well that,
and I'm like,
man, I still got it Wow
That's what you
That's what you took away
From all of this
Yes
That you got what
It
I didn't know that
I even had it
To win
MMA niggas would be
Intimidated a little bit
Like I didn't think
I was cute nigga
Like
I'm cool.
But nah, I do.
I still got it.
I think the MMA nigga might have felt like that if she walked anybody in there.
Then I go to the strip club.
Why are you talking to, who is this nigga?
See, these young girls will jam you up, man.
You got to stay away from the young girls.
Then you go to the strip club, you thinking you saying old nigga shit to deter them.
They like that shit.
And how old is you?
40. I like that shit. And how old is you? 40.
I like older niggas.
Oh, that's good.
And you got a girl, so you dip.
And then they, Link?
Wait.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Whoa, whoa.
Yo, the young is getting.
Yo, we skipped everything.
I don't know your birthday, your favorite color.
You don't know my job.
You got right to link.
That's crazy. Now I got to really weigh it.
That's crazy.
I got to really weigh this link
now. Whoa.
Go and link though.
Look at y'all.
I'm waiting for you to go.
I'm waiting for you.
Jump in, co-host.
You said you got to weigh the link. I'm seeing where you're...
Nigga, I never link.
I never link.
Oh, okay.
I don't do the link.
I wait the link.
Do you still have the he lied drop in there?
Yes.
Let's see.
Let's see.
Let's see.
Let's see.
I don't even see it no more.
Damn.
Oh, man.
Why is it...
He lied.
Why is it...
He lied.
He lied.
Yo, that's funny.
So you don't weigh the link.
I don't do the link.
I'm not linking.
I got to learn so much about you to link.
As men, we should all be paranoid and terrified.
Come on.
Yo, we got to stop laughing good ideas out the room.
Nigga, that's scary as hell if she asks you to link off the rip.
Yeah.
That's what they do.
Or.
Fuck that.
No, that's what they do.
They can do that. Or, fuck that. No, that's what they do though. They can do that.
Or it's a great Saturday.
We've all been guilty
of linking with somebody
we probably should have
linked with.
Let's keep it real.
100%.
Yeah,
of course.
You learn from that shit
and say,
woo,
thank God,
but you keep rolling the dice
and it's going to happen.
You might do it
a couple more times.
I think at this age,
most of us are going to say,
nah,
that's not the smart thing to do,
but we've definitely done
the real irresponsible link.
Yo,
me and Ish was laughing
about something that I don't even know if I can say
I can't but it was funny
when I was in a little situation
and it was no longer a situation
I was like well great now that
that's not a situation
Link
what the fuck
hey
and she linked what the fuck you know this guy hey
and she linked
no one ever heard
about that part
so the situation was over
hey yo dog
we was linking for months
we was back together
how did the internet
miss that
oh man
this guy
yo
come on man
nobody sponsor us
nigga
fire me
what the fuck
what you gonna say
oh man
alright come on
move it along
there's gotta be
something else
important to talk about
I'd like to hear
about y'all experiences
back outside too
but I know you got
a muzzle on you
diamonds on it
pretty muzzle
but a muzzle
nonetheless
Ice is going through
things at home too
you getting married
so we don't want to
drive that anywhere
I ain't going through nothing
I'm chilling
home is good
okay
yeah I ain't going through shit
and E
saying what E was doing
I'm dating
first time in a long time
but don't it feel good
when you're dating
how is it
but somebody made it
to the top of the list
I feel like dating right now is going to be a little scary.
Yeah, that's why I'm curious.
But also probably extremely lit after last year.
I feel like people are fucking.
Everybody but me.
Why would it be scary?
I won't speak to that.
Because I feel like people have lost their fucking minds in the last 18 months.
I think people are just really interested to be around anyone at this point.
So it's hard to judge if it's genuine, like if you're really trying to date me for the right reasons,
or if you're just ready to be outside and be around anyone.
Can you tell our listening audience what are the right reasons to date you?
I'm sick of men just using these little water cooler phrases.
You're dating me for the wrong reasons.
Call it single in the morning.
All right, well, what's the right reasons?
Good time. Don't expect anything else
Right now
But besides a good time
Tell us what you did
Last night
I didn't do anything
Alright fine
Nah I'm dating the right way
I'm dating the right way
I've dated the wrong way
In a long history
Of dating
You're dating the right way. I've dated the wrong way in a long history of dating. Oh, you're dating the white way.
Huh?
Wait, wait.
Yo.
You're dating the white way?
Yeah.
Next topic.
Holy shit.
Oh, man.
That's a good one.
Oh, man. That's good good one. Oh, man.
That's good.
All right.
Come on.
It's a versus.
It's something to talk about.
Oh, all right.
Come on.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, this is another one that we're going to fight about, I bet.
All right.
This is DaBaby versus Meg Thee Stallion and Party.
All right.
So if you're listening and you don't know, this could get confusing.
I'll try my best
the baby did a record and video with tory lanes i think it's called stretch strut
strep scat scat something something i'm too old to say right that's the name of the record
the record went out and of course it was a smash because anything that the baby is on
is getting over 100 million views and listens immediately um to which meg replied and and this was on twitter and seemed to be some emotion in it
she said support me in private and publicly do something different these industry men are very
strange this situation ain't no damn beef and i really wish people would stop downplaying it like it's some internet shit for likes and retweets the baby replies to that and says you done let these folks get the best
of you thug i don't got no bad energy for you you know like i know i ain't no industry nigga you let
them fool you into thinking that you tripping stand on what you stand on without feeling like
i'm against you stay focused my g to which she
replied oh no he then went on to say you ain't oh no she said my stance hasn't changed at all yours
has we already spoke about this in private and you specifically said that ain't even uh that ain't
even no good business move why would i promote that shit but now this ain't your beef that ain't real but you stay on
your business my g to which he said you ain't uh you ain't tweeting nothing i ain't tell that
nigga directly i told him the same shit lol whoever cleared it cleared it so what shit still ain't
none of my business uh enough of my business for uh motherfuckers to be feeling some type of way
about my pretty chocolate ass get into that don't feed my people
okay let's we can stop it right here how do y'all feel about this exchange so far and what's going on
it's a little bit it's a little bit more before that though um i think if i can infer what the
context is my bad no i'm just it's a little bit more before that when when the record i guess
No, I'm just saying it's a little bit more before that.
When the record, I guess, first leak, not leak, but teaser or whatever,
she did go and say, aha, whatever, I don't care about that.
They're not going to clear it anyway.
So she jumped out saying, that ain't happening anyway. That was old, and now he rocking, he stands with me, whatever.
You're not going to get that record done.
Joe's take across the board.
Boy, and I'm having an issue currently with something similar to this.
You don't have to address everything on the internet.
Correct.
So what that sounds like to me is the teaser came out for the Tory Lanez,
the baby record.
She called him.
She called the baby. Of course.
Or somebody from the team called DaBaby.
We fly. DaBaby
said what you would say when you're
speaking to a woman that is emotional
and needs to be consoled. Yo, I don't know if they're
clearing that. Like, it's old. I did it. Whatever.
Whatever. And you're getting out of there.
The end. But
why do we have to address this
publicly? Cool. Let's fast forward now the only
part i don't get about this is the clearing because fuck the clearing you did the record
but he might have did the record a long time and you did the video you might have did the record
a long time ago right oh and so now for the song to come out after what happened happened he's
saying yo that's not a good business move on my part.
Right.
You get what I'm saying?
I ain't fucking with that.
If that's an old,
if it's an old verse and video,
then he was right
when he spoke to Meg.
Don't look like a good business move.
I don't think it's getting cleared.
But it might,
it's not his call.
It's not his call.
So somebody else cleared this
if it's old.
That was the only part
I was confused about.
There's another piece in this too so someone tweeted uh the baby and tag both of them the baby and tori lanes are cool
because they both shot somebody and are not going to jail over it the baby in hold on the baby to
like the tweet retweeted the tweet and everybody screenshot it and then ran with it from there. So it's like, okay, now you're
egging that on.
That's what spawned her saying what she said.
I'm just putting shit in context.
But that don't, and that's my beef
about people and their usage of the internet.
That, don't
put it in context.
I know what you're doing.
I know what you're doing.
But internet people people y'all
don't know the why or how to anything it's where they know everything he retweeted this now his
explanation is nigga i don't know how it got retweeted but when i went to undo the retweet
it wouldn't let me and then he screen recorded him trying to undo it and not letting
him i've had an issue on my twitter app not anymore but i used to for years you know i went
on a blocking spree but then i tried to unblock everybody and my app wouldn't let me unblock
anybody so that carried over for like two extra years where people thought i was blocking them
just because i couldn't unblock them so i feel them there but they don't add context you don't
know how that tweet got tweeted.
You don't know if he feels that way.
There could have been somebody on his team doing it.
We don't know that.
You don't know nothing about nothing,
and you get on the internet.
Cool, right?
Then they pulled up another old clip of Meg in an interview
when she did the record with, who was that, Cardi?
Cardi, yeah.
And somebody asked her, hey, how do you think this should feel?
How do you think this will impact Nicki? and man she said hey business never personal who i do a song with who i do a song with i don't think it should affect how i feel about somebody
but so why doesn't that apply here like why does it have to be personal all of this is business
true but see where it got tricky is,
it depends on my relationship
with you.
Yeah.
If he told her,
it definitely depends
on my relationship with you.
Yo, none of these niggas
are cool.
Let me tell you.
I don't know that.
I'm telling you.
That's why I'm telling you.
None of these niggas are cool.
That has to be spoken on.
None of these niggas are cool.
None of them are cool.
They're not chilling with each other.
They're not calling each other
in the phone.
We doing business.
That's it.
It's all, it's all, oh man, I hate to say what I call it.
I call it nigga stock.
I mean, okay.
I call it nigga stock.
When one of y'all is hot, one of y'all run over there, y'all live together for a week,
y'all run around, hang out for a week.
When that person's down, I never see y'all together again.
I just don't see it.
It's nigga stuff.
Y'all just running shit up, running shit up.
The women are doing it.
This girl, Bessie, is over here.
Niggas, everybody's doing some mess.
I understand why you're doing it because I'm seeing how it affects the bottom line and business and what attention and audience is doing for people.
But they ain't friends.
The baby is the hottest thing on the planet.
Meg is the hottest thing on the planet. They both the hottest thing on the planet meg is the hottest thing on the planet they both the hottest thing on the planet
but again so it behooved both of them to work with each other they don't have no
allegiance to each other and that's what he's saying he's saying yo i'm arguing with somebody
with another man's woman in a way that I don't argue with my own women
about another man
that I don't have nothing to do.
It's too much other shit
that I don't do all that.
I get it.
He said all that?
Yeah, he said it in a tweet.
That makes sense.
And that's when Party stepped up
because Party is Meg's man.
Party stepped up and said,
you a clown.
You a clown, you doing clown shit.
Anybody that supports a man shooting a woman, anybody condones it.
If you a girl, you support it.
You nasty, you bitter, you weak.
If you a guy and you support it, you nasty, you corny.
That was the exchange.
And then the baby said, you must not know about me.
You must not know about me.
Emoji, emoji, emoji.
I felt a way about that, but I can't say it.
Well, I know about it. Emoji, emoji, emoji. I felt a way about that, but I can't say it. Well, I know about it.
You know it.
Me too.
He might know.
He might know.
It's been real quiet about that case, though.
I wonder what's going on with it.
There you go, Parks.
I wonder what's going on with it.
See, that's the thing that's bothering me, too.
Now you're talking.
Why can't someone just decide to not pick a side because they're unsure what actually happened
and just go about doing business the proper way?
And that's where I think the relationship might come in.
It might be more, I don't know, but it might be more than just we cool and passing.
It might be.
Because if we're cooler than that, then I feel some type of way.
Or it could be just, and this is not grass eating or panting.
I swear to you.
It could just be today you feel like the narrative has to be, oh, a black woman said it happened to her.
You have to take her side and stand up.
If you say, even if you say I want to wait and wait for the facts or wait for anything, you're not standing with her and you're part of the problem i think that's what most people said immediately after and i think that after giving it
time and realizing that things are slow and meg spoke to this she said justice it's slow as we've
all seen back to my good day look at the first reply underneath i just deleted all that dude
shit out of my phone i'm tired of black men not standing up for black women where did you get that from what he did well the optics the optics that's what they got but again we just explained how
that could have happened what was the nothing to do with i did a song with somebody that allegedly
did something to you well the other side is we take the allegedly out because you got to believe
black woman and a black woman said that she was shot and you're the person that did it.
And until we hear otherwise.
We don't know how long ago
I shot the song with this homeboy.
No matter.
We offered a song.
We offered a song.
We just now on
Believe Black Women.
This is the way
you have to today
or you're the problem.
I'm back to parks.
It's been a year now.
It's coming up on a year.
Yeah.
What's going on? It's been COVID. That's a long time. No, it's COVID. It's been a year now. It's coming up on a year. Yeah. What's going on?
It's been COVID.
That's a long time.
No, it's COVID.
It's not a long time.
Nah.
Yeah.
In a case like that,
you're out your fucking mind.
Bro, it's hardcore criminals
that got real charges.
Not saying that this is not one.
A black megastar got shot down the block
from Kylie Jenner's house.
Yeah.
And we waiting a year
because the courts
is pushed back?
about that black girl?
It's a high profile case
that they will
definitely want to handle.
No, it's not.
It is.
That's a high profile case.
No, it's not.
It is.
That is a high profile case.
That is definitely
a high profile case.
I disagree.
It's fine.
By definition,
it's a high profile case.
Now, that don't have to change what you're saying about the reason why it's fine. By definition, it's a high profile case. Now, that don't have to
change what you're saying
about the reason why
it's pushed back,
but by definition,
this is a high profile case.
Okay.
When will we hear,
when will we hear
anything about this?
And do you think people
are still waiting to hear?
Yeah, I think so.
I think it's probably
left people's consciousness
a little bit
because we haven't heard any developments whatsoever in a very long time, but I think it's probably left people's consciousness a little bit because we haven't heard any developments whatsoever in a very long time.
Tory's support has been increasing.
Personally, I'm still waiting to hear.
Now, he might not be supported by the streamers or some of the DSPs,
but his support is increasing.
He's popping up all over TikTok everywhere.
His videos are going crazy, and he's got really huge features,
and his music is probably better than it's ever been.
I don't tell people what to do or what to listen to.
That's what's happening in his world.
I haven't listened to a Tory Lanez record, or I didn't hear this record.
I don't listen to it personally on my end.
I canceled Tory Lanez on my end just because I believe it.
I could be wrong, and if I'm wrong, if the shit comes out and I'm wrong, I could be wrong. And if I'm wrong,
if the shit comes out
and I'm wrong,
I will be like,
damn, I was wrong.
Yeah, but are you gonna uncancel?
Are you gonna listen
to the music again?
Yeah.
But until then, I'm not.
Were you a Tory Lanez
or Meg Thee Stallion fan
of their music?
I was a Tory Lanez fan.
Got it.
Meg was cool,
but I was a Tory Lanez fan.
But I mean,
I can't be mad. What'd you say? I don't like that approach. But I mean, I can't be mad.
What'd you say?
I don't like that approach.
Me either.
I'm an artist and you can just cancel it or uncancel it.
I feel like in both of the situations, we don't know what happened.
I don't know.
I'm not going to assume to know.
And I'm also not going to go out my way to try to figure it out.
I'm going to let the process play itself out.
And at that point, I'll make a judgment.
But if I decide to want to play Meg, let's just say, and this is a hypothetical. I play Meg. I but if I decide to want to play Meg let's just say and this is a hypothetical
I play Meg
I'm going to play Meg
I don't play Tory but I was not the hugest
I like his music but
I play both
I've recently started playing Tory again
so you stopped playing Tory too?
I did
because I thought because it was a
high profile case that we would
get more facts sooner I didn't think because it was a high profile case that we would get more facts sooner
I didn't think that it would take
this long
to do it
it's ironic that you would
stop playing
yeah as people
as someone
as an artist
no why is that ironic
because you've been accused
of a shit load of stuff
and it's unfair sometimes
when you get accused
that people immediately judge
and jump to the anti-joe train unfortunately i'm not done go ahead so now that something happened
we don't we're not exactly sure what took place but you immediately canceled this kid based on
that's not true you just said that i said i stopped listening to music his music and i want
to put that into perspective amongst cancel culture like when shit come up like this your manhood is on trial for me it's a much bigger case than
your songs and your music i got a million reasons why i can not listen to tori he was putting out
rapper shit i don't really dig him as a rapper so i'm not doing. And this is a nasty story. If I believe that you shot that woman, I might never listen to you again.
I'm strong in that.
But I'm going to wait.
Because I've been through similar situations, I'm letting it play.
When I was in court, it played out for two years.
But you said you stopped it without knowing what the verdict was,
without knowing what all the facts were, without knowing all of the particulars.
You didn't let it play.
But I think Tory will be okay without his 36 cents.
That's not the point that we're making.
That's not the point that we're making.
Let me repeat what he's saying.
Ish, yes, I stopped because for me, music is a part of my shit.
And if it don't sit right with my soul and my spirit and when all that shit was going on, it didn't.
I could not willingly play a Tory Lanez song
without thinking about it
and I didn't know nothing about it
so it wasn't worth that to me to play the song
that's an easy concept to understand
but you also
weren't on here trying to tell people
we should cancel him like that was just a personal
decision that you made for yourself
Joe came on here
we're gonna wait for facts that's what I came on here and said, wait, we can't. I don't tell nobody what to listen to. We're going to wait for facts.
That's what I came on here and said.
I've never said, yo, cancel him, don't listen.
No, no, no.
You do what you want.
Me.
Me, I stop listening.
Until I know something for sure,
I'm not making no judgments based on,
because the one thing I never want to do
is have to be the person to retract my moves
based upon my feelings in the moment.
I'm okay with saying I was wrong and undoing it.
And also for me, again, I wasn't the hugest Tory Lanez guy in the world,
so it's not really a problem for me.
There's a million other people that make music similar to Tory Lanez
that I can find to fill that void when I need that void filled.
If necessary.
So it's kind of a no-brainer for me.
This is where, this is the part that it hits me a little bit.
This is what I don't like, and I see it a lot.
And I'm not applying this to any one person or brand.
I'm just telling you something that I see a lot.
When there is an incident, altercation, or some trauma between a man and a woman romantically and they separate
and it's bad
and it's bad
years go by
and you see the man
sometimes try to improve
his life aka Chad
Ochocinco
and at every
turn that he did
there was his the victim in the case to remind him.
Hey, I am your victim. I am your victim. I am your victim. I am your victim.
Now, that's the victim's right.
But at what point is the man able to redeem himself,
take accountability, ownership, learn from it, and move on without the constant reminder or hindrance
that comes with that mistake in that moment?
Internally or for other people who maybe-
Just period, not internally, just period.
Based on what y'all saying, never.
No.
Y'all contradicting yourself.
That's kind of what happened.
Y'all contradicting yourselves.
I'm not.
For me...
I'm not you.
I'm not.
No, not you.
For me, it depends on what happened.
What was the thing that you were accused of?
I will weigh that internally myself.
Gotcha.
You know what I'm saying?
There's some things you can come back from
and some things you can't pretty much.
And it depends on how much I'm a fan of your shit and what i see from you moving forward like
there have been people that have done terrible things and then tried to rectify that in a million
different ways so it's like okay not only is he time has passed and hopefully the victim is better
but he's also done some things publicly or in charity or whatever to try to make it right
i can go back to that person and be like
all right cool you have tried to make a change in not only your life but in other people's lives
i fuck with you and for some people that ain't gonna be good enough that's true that's fine it
happens it's some people where no matter what you do right i don't care because usually especially when dealing with celebrities it's
because we like this other we like the victim no i don't know that's happy that could be it
and it's because we like this person or we don't like the or we don't like you yeah and that's my
point and that's why so no matter what you do is not good i'm shocked that you feel that way that's
why i'm saying i'm shocked you feel that way i don't understand why how he keeps pulling that from what because you've been accused
of doing mad shit oftentimes whether it's true or false you've been and people have judged you
without having all the facts but stop right there shoot i landed in that situation now you was my
man back then so we don't need to discuss the particulars gotcha whether true or
false i somehow landed in the predicament for those things to be said me so when it comes to
ownership and taking accountability for the part that i played that's what it means it don't mean
i did what that police report say and it don't mean that i did what you saying i did those
are horrible nasty fucking things that you saying i did but i did some things to end up here and for
that to end up being out there so if the public i would hope they don't believe these horrible
fucking things but in the event that they do and a lot of them did says hey we're not listening to
his music no more part of my accountability is to take that because it's what comes with the actions that led me there.
What's contradictory about that?
And I was canceled.
Let me throw that part in there.
Nobody was really canceled.
Yo, you know what?
And it seems to be a lot of confusion.
You say that, I'm going to resist that.
Okay. I'm going to resist that. Okay.
I'm going to resist that.
No, people got canceled.
Cancel culture, right, is when...
Cancel culture.
Okay.
Is when we find out some shit about you and we put it out there and we do our best to
make sure that your platform is taken away and your resources are taken away.
Correct.
T.I. currently is going through something.
His resources are are taken away. T.I. currently is going through something. His resources are being taken away.
His jobs are being taken away.
Now, we all know who T.I. is.
He's embedded in our brains.
So is he canceled?
No, he's been there for a million years
and you know who he is.
But they are actively trying to,
not even actively, That's what happened.
Even if TI comes back and is the man and is on top of the world and
everything was false.
He lost a lot of money from the mere accusation.
I went through some reason.
I lost some money.
Someone said something.
Who cares what I thought this is what's happening.
So when you say cancel culture,
it's,
it's that pick a reason out of the
cancel culture box does it apply and get him the fuck out of here we don't want him eating we don't
want to see him we don't want to hear him back to our music conversation my statement let me finish
real quick and talking in circles all right but my statement then is no when i said no one
has been canceled okay yes people have been canceled
culture has done their thing but no one has remained canceled is what i guess what i mean
it it works for a time period and then they're off onto something else and that person's back
thriving again a la tory lanes anybody else there's only been one person i can remember
that was actively like really canceled cancel culture yeah some people in the monsters out there need to be canceled got it awesome and
when we find out if you have a heart do what you want with that information but it's also a tool
that that only seems to be applicable to the black community like this gets deep i don't want to
really get deep right this second that's true because i'm here to have fun but i don't want to talk about elvis i don't want to talk about homeboy woody
allen like stop playing with me kevin spacey's working again that's my point come on man no no
well white people cancel culture and black people cancel culture is very well that's because we
we try to cancel ourselves, but go ahead.
I'm off of this.
I don't have nothing more.
I don't have nothing more for this.
I got a trick for y'all. All right.
Bring the beat in.
Yeah, what's wrong with Trick Daddy?
Nobody has to answer that.
Something's wrong.
No, something's wrong. We don't know what's wrong, no something's wrong we don't know what's wrong
but something's wrong something is yes trick daddy you're entitled to your own opinion that
beyonce can't sing also trick daddy she can sing there are plenty of videos of beyonce singing
live without any auto-tune without anything all the most difficult harmonies in the world
for notes so she's done she can sing live While dancing. How well you think she sings, it doesn't matter.
Anybody can have that opinion, but she can sing.
She can do everything.
She can sing and dance
and make songs.
And perform.
She's just one of the greatest, Trick Daddy.
Yo, they not playing.
But shout out to Trick Daddy.
Trick Daddy's restaurant rating drops to 2.6 on Google after members of the Beehive flood the reviews.
See, cancel culture.
Yeah, that's what you wanted.
I don't like that, man.
Why you spoke to Beezness, man?
Why?
Why?
He should be able to share his opinion.
I mean, it's a bad opinion.
Okay, and what?
But it's an opinion that he should be able to share.
This is a really hypersensitive world. Yo, disgusting.? But it's an opinion that he should be able to share. This is a really
hypersensitive world.
Yo, disgusting.
I'm not even talking about this.
I'm just saying.
They put a bee.
Yo, they never even went to the,
they said.
They put a bumblebee next to it.
Wait, all right,
let's see what they said
in the reviews about his restaurant.
The lemonade was divine, though.
That's crazy.
Disgusting food. Seriously, though. The service was so bad and the food was so
definitely do not recommend this restaurant they can't even sing
oh my god the food was appalling i've never in my life tasted such filth the lemonade on the other
hand was divine that's great oh i see what they did yeah lemonade look at that lemonade that was clever go beehive
the food wasn't that good
nor was the drinks
okay
I recommend y'all
do not eat there
it's roaches all through
the restroom
and I don't even know
what kind of bug
that was in my food
never again
that's the worst thing
you could get as a
restaurant owner
that there was a bug
in the food
yeah
it's a wrap
it's a wrap
once I find a bug
in the food it's over I will not be and it's over wrap once I find a bug in the food
it's over
I will not be
and it's over
for everybody
I know
and I'm gonna tell people
yeah but I'm telling
everybody I know
not to go there
no you're not
you're moving the bug
and going back
nah
everybody's so beautiful
and pristine
on the microphone
hey Joe
if I find a bug
in my food
I'm not eating the bug
and I say
you have found bugs
in your food
since you were a child you found a bug in your food. I'm not eating the bug. You have found bugs in your food since you were a child.
You found a bug in your food at least once or twice in your life.
In a restaurant and went back to it?
No.
A hair?
What are you talking about?
A hair?
I found a hair.
A hair is forgivable.
I found a hair.
A hair is forgivable.
A hair is human.
A hair is forgivable.
A bug?
A hair is human.
Are you crazy?
The bug.
Fuck the bug.
I'll take the weave.
I won't take no bug.
I'm not taking no bug.
You're out of your mind, Joe.
I'd take Beyonce for like a forgiving queen.
So I don't know if she would want the beehive to just be like.
Yo, who do y'all start team Earth with?
You are responsible for populating the Earth, and it has to start with one species.
Not humans.
Oh.
Huh?
Bees.
Bees.
That's a good one.
Interesting choice.
Yeah.
Why bees?
Because they populate other places.
He is so beyond bee fan.
It's true, though.
You got to go with bees.
You got to go with bees.
I'm with him.
What about rabbits?
Worms?
What about worms?
Worms are pretty important.
No, bees are responsible
for pollinating flowers
yo Ish always
gotta find the wisdom
he asked me
we're trying to joke here
we're trying to joke here
we're trying to joke bro
what is wrong with Ish
yo
he went Bill
not a science guy
on niggas
but how you think
the man bees feel
about some of the shit
the women bees are doing
that's nigga he got a thought too he will get triggered This guy on niggas. But how do you think the man bees feel about some of the shit the women bees are doing?
That's nigga.
He got a thought, too.
He will get triggered.
He thinking about it. Come on, let's move on.
Let's move on.
Come on, let's move on.
Oh, Homeboy just came out.
Congratulations to Carl Nassib.
Is that his name?
For the Raiders?
Nobody knows.
Carl Nassib.
Joe is the fucking man.
I don't know how to pronounce it.
Carl Nassib. Well, it fucking man. Carl Nassib.
Oh, well, it's Pride Month.
Why don't you learn?
My bad.
Educate yourself on the people that are coming out.
Okay.
Congratulations.
Carl Nassib of the Las Vegas Raiders announces he is gay.
Pledges $100,000 to the Trevor Project.
That's dope.
I'm going to announce I'm gay.
It's coming soon.
These niggas get so much love.
Can you tell us first?
Before you go.
Somebody said that on Patreon.
It's coming. I'm telling you.
Somebody just said that on Patreon.
I'm telling you.
That is the cancel culture hack.
Now it is.
Watch. You all right? Would it work?
No, it is. You all it alright when it work no it is
you right
when it work for me
they gonna kill your
fucking ass
when they find out
you ain't gay
I'm gonna be
how they gonna find out
they ain't in the bedroom
with me
how will they ever know
I'm not gay
Joe
answer me
Joe shut up
they won't know
so you won't answer me
they won't know
how do we
exactly
so look
so what's gonna happen
now cancel me
I got a nation of millions behind me.
So when you go get married to a woman, they're going to say, what, you changed your mind?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I can't show my marriage to a woman.
I'm hiding myself.
You're going to be dedicated to this shit?
I'm hiding them now.
That's a joke.
I'm kidding. That was podcast theatrics stuff it's a lie
but now he came out the closet uh a bunch of i mean i don't like we don't like that term we
don't use that term anymore came out the closet we don't use that that's nasty uh he came out
and uh he got a lot of praise a lot of praise from a lot of nfl execs and players and that's
good to see that's good to see.
That's good to see.
So, round of applause.
Congratulations to Carl.
Statistically speaking, I think that there's probably a lot of homosexual men and athletes.
I think it was Warren Sapp, if I'm not mistaken.
He said what you just said.
You mean Warren Sapp.
You mean it was every Aaron Hernandez boyfriend they found for these docs.
Every doc they found a every Aaron Hernandez boyfriend they found for these docs? Every doc,
every doc they found a new Aaron Hernandez
boyfriend that's
come talk to us.
Nigga, who are you?
How do I know?
Did y'all all in
high school
after the games?
He can't, nigga.
How do I know that?
They paid me.
Yeah.
They told me
they was filming a doc.
You're so stupid.
That's how you know.
You wasn't that
nigga's type.
That nigga was a stone cold
yo
alright
it's really easy
to paint some impression
on people
hey find a time mark
on this thing Vaughn
yo please
how the fuck you
cause
they showing me a doc
Aaron Hernandez
left the club
left the club
killed two niggas over here
over here he shot a nigga
buried him over here
picked up his friend
shot a nigga over here
and this is his man right here.
Yo, can I ask this question?
Nah.
No way.
Nah.
Why?
Because no.
Because no.
Just not him.
Why?
Not that guy.
I'm saying why?
Did you see the guy?
No, I didn't.
His shoulders wasn't broad.
I don't understand.
What the fuck you mean?
That guy didn't get no playing time on the team.
I'm being ignorant right here.
No, so stop.
Stop. I got a question. I be ignorant for jokes, and guy didn't get no playing time on the team. I'm being ignorant right now, so stop.
Stop.
I got a question.
I be ignorant for jokes, and then they believe it. I really do have a question.
It's not an attack on none of us.
Yo, I want to quit this podcast.
So bad.
I don't know.
All right.
I don't have a question.
Between wisdom, wisdom, man.
I don't have a question.
Yo, I got a question.
Let's see.
I want to hear it.
Why is this news?
That's all I'm saying.
Like, okay, you're a ball player.
Well, the Trevor Project is probably the piece of it that's more i'm saying like okay you're a ball player like well the travel project is
probably the the piece of it that's more news than anything okay it's um the organization is for um
suicide and uh within the lgbt community and different things like that so his donation
to attached to him coming out okay as a thank you it's a big deal it's a big deal anytime anybody
is comfortable being themselves that's a big deal. It's a big deal anytime anybody is comfortable
with being themself.
That's a big deal.
Especially in the industry.
It's a lot of you straight niggas out there.
I did not mean any insensitivity or anything by that.
I see a straight nigga every day
uncomfortable with being themself.
Nigga, loosen up.
Go learn yourself.
Get to know yourself.
You've been with yourself 40 fucking years.
You still got to be cool with all these niggas nigga go sit in the room enjoy yourself i hate these niggas out here
man everybody fucking hissing up putting a mistletoe over another nigga head yo you niggas
running around with a bunch of mistletoes in your pockets scooting up the niggas hey all you niggas running around with a bunch of mistletoes in your pockets, scooting up to niggas. Hey, all you niggas that scooting up to niggas, man, don't talk to me.
But y'all knew that already.
What is scooting up?
You know what I mean.
You know what I mean.
What do you mean when your girl scooted up to the side to you?
She want to share herself with you.
These niggas want to share they self with these niggas.
Oh, man.
Their thoughts and shit.
Shut up, goops.
Okay. All right. You man. Their thoughts and shit. Shut up, goofs. Okay.
You alright?
You need a hug or something?
You need a hug? I want to be a news
show so bad. Every time we come
talk about some hip hop
the hippie. Oh fuck.
Anyway, shout out to Carl, man.
You seen the shit about Dame Dash
with the NFT?
Trying to sell his portion of reasonable doubt as an NFT? Hey, what's y'all have to call, man? Yeah. He's saying this shit about Dame Dash with the NFT. Mm-hmm.
Trying to sell his portion of Reasonable Doubt as an NFT.
Now, is it Reasonable Doubt he's trying to sell?
He's trying to sell his stake.
I thought he was trying to sell his portion, his stake.
His whole Rockefeller stake?
He responded to-
This is where I was completely lost at.
So, I even looked up to try to see maybe i missed something somewhere
97 the three james jane biggs sold 50 to def jam and they remained they retained 50
in 2000 and was at five when jay took over as ceo of rockefeller they sold their remaining 50% to Def Jam
then when Jay took over
they gave him
Rockefeller so I'm lost
as to what
if you sold 50% before
and 50% here what is happening here
I've been trying to figure this out
and I don't get it so I would love for somebody to just
explain what's happening
I don't even understand this NFT shit personally.
We can't explain any of it because contracts come with particulars.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
So we'll never know the bottom line of any of it that happened.
I remember some of what you're saying, but I mean, I wasn't privy to nothing.
Right, right.
The fans will never be really privy to the details of it,
but what this looks like is Dame Dash still has some stake
and some say maybe minority in maybe a minority share of something.
I don't know.
But they said Dame said that at some point,
I'm not sure how soon or how recent it was.
March 2021.
Jay had made an offer to buy the remaining stake from him and it was too low of a number for him to sell.
So I think what's happening now is he's putting up his stake for sale to anyone who's willing to meet the number that he finds desirable.
He was auctioning it off.
Yeah, I think that's what's happening here.
I think the NFT thing was also something he was trying to do, and we thinking that that's the only thing that's happening.
He's like, no, I'm not just trying to sell off no nft i'm trying to sell off this steak he said every
right to do so he said it was never an nft right he said it was always a steak it was just a steak
and whatever he said there was no mint created for the nft none of that he said basically he
was trying to sell they said it was a third of whatever his stake was so he said basically like again i used
an analogy me you and parks own something but you got enough bread to buy me and parks out
you got leverage at that point so you can offer us 10 million dollars and it could be worth 100
but we broke right so dame is essentially saying the number that he got offered
was some bullshit,
so now I'm going to use my brain
and take it to the open market,
and I might get what it's worth or more.
Because again, like you say all the time,
value is what you think you're worth.
But listening to that,
it sounds like he's well within his right,
so I don't see what the point of contention would be,
and clearly there is one somewhere.
And then he's saying, basically, y'all got the media on lock.
So now y'all started painting me as a bad guy and started spreading some lies and some rumors.
And it's going to kill my credibility.
Which will then take me.
But killing your credibility.
It's going to devalue me as a person.
It ain't going to devalue whatever you're trying to sell, though.
It ain't going to devalue you.
It could. It could to devalue It could
It could
It could
Because less takers
Will come to the market
Because they don't want the beef
Or the hassle
They don't want what comes with it
That's true
Yeah but that's the game
Yeah
Sometimes investors
Don't really want
If I make an offer to you
And you think it's too low
And you can get more elsewhere
And I wouldn't do this
But I've seen some niggas do it
Yeah I might go out there
And try to press
Step on the value
to get you to come back.
That's normal business practice, right?
Yeah.
But again,
it's his right to speak on it.
To say this is what they're doing.
I got a nigga running around now
trying to step on anything I do.
I got a few of those guys out there.
See, but I'm different. I enjoy it. I like that. I ain't about to be on anything I do. I got a few of those guys out there. See, but I'm different.
I enjoy it.
I like that.
I ain't about to be all stupid and crying.
Yo, you love chaos, though.
Again, it goes back to that.
You love anything chaotic?
No, you like the game.
Like, where you can beat me, beat me.
I know.
I think Dame does, too, though.
Nah, I don't think so.
I think Dame realizes he has an asset. Do it. I think Dame's view, though. Nah, I don't think so. I think Dame realizes he has an asset.
Do it.
I think Dame's view is, yo, don't play dirty.
Like, yo, we two black men don't play dirty.
So Dame said, don't have your white attorney defame me in the public.
Well, I don't think he's sitting home crying and weeping about it.
He might not be enjoying it, but I don't think he's sitting back like.
He not welcoming the game.
If he was welcoming the game,
he wouldn't be making these statements. I just want to jump in and tell y'all this is not hot enough for us to spend more than three minutes
on. You are hot enough. It's okay.
I know that we get into that bag where y'all just
ready to pod about shit.
Y'all, I found the perfect matchup for Camp.
Let's hear it. Yes. Because since they laughed,
they laughed at me about my Ja Rule theory.
Cool. I be off sometimes. It's all right.
Game.
That's a good one. I like Game. That's a good one.
I like that.
That's a good one.
Not bad.
That's a good one.
Yes.
Mm-hmm.
I rock with that.
I'm rolling.
That's a good one.
And what you think?
I think it's a...
Cam's got a little bit of time on him.
And Cam's got more group shit.
Cam had more time, but he's had levels of dormancy.
True.
Where you haven't really heard much.
True.
You get what I'm saying?
And Game was still putting out shit.
So I'm sure they'll-
I like that matchup a lot.
The volume is comparable.
Yeah.
Who do you got winning?
That I don't know.
I would have to actually really go through that.
Because game discography is not to be played with.
He has some records in there.
I think Cam's got more big records.
I keep wanting to do a list.
I say it almost every week.
I don't know.
The hardest opening lines on a song. This is up there lines and that's one of them that's up there that is a great way to
start that shit right it was a month's top of that list that was the best part
is all frail shit coming up I was confused my mommy kiss you girl a curse coming up in the cold world Daddy ain't around probably out committing
felonies My favorite rapper used to say check check
out my melody I wanna live good so shit I sell dope for a full finger
Yo Interscope man Jimmy Iovine whose ever idea it was I don't know what hardship game
was going through trying to get his debut album together. But whosever idea it was to find the nigga who had this song completed,
laying in a folder somewhere and to give it to game.
I think all of us in 05 could have used one of these.
No doubt.
What is this?
Why was this?
Hey,
Hey,
Hey,
somebody in the scope made the call and said,
game needs, this is how we do.
Hate it or love it.
And 12 more Dre beats.
And we're going to roll out from there.
Throwing some just plays.
Oh, my God.
Stick them back.
Listen, I don't know who wins.
I really don't know.
It's tough.
I'm going to say Cam.
And most of them I can just pick off the top of my finger.
I'm going to say Cam, but this is going to be a one-point win.
One and a half, two-point.
It's going to be close.
Gang got joints I love, man.
Me too.
He got joints I love.
Yeah.
He got albums I love. Yep. He does, He got joints I love. He got albums I love.
Yep.
He does, man.
Shout out to him.
He makes good music.
Where else?
Where else we at?
What else does the culture need our thoughts and opinions on?
Nothing I know.
But is it only playoff basketball?
We did that.
Do we have to talk about playoff basketball?
Oh, shit.
There's a black TikTok strike that I'm hearing about.
Oh, yeah? Really? Yeah. I think that black TikTok strike that I'm hearing about. Yes. Oh, yeah?
Really?
Yeah.
I think that's really my favorite topic of the moment.
Yes.
I really should have spoke about this much sooner.
Man, round of applause.
I just found out about this shit today.
Round of applause to the black creators out there.
You get actual claps.
What do they do?
I'm not really hip to TikTok.
Me neither.
That's how I didn't know.
Oh, OK. But what's been didn't know. Oh, okay.
But what's been happening on TikTok...
Oh, I'm going to let the applause play.
Nah, hold up.
Yeah, yeah.
Real applause.
Real applause.
Forget about what's been happening on TikTok for two seconds.
Let Ice explain that in one moment.
We've been talking for years about the black people that make up these dances,
and then they're not compensated
for these dances there are no royalties for these dances and the laws leave very unclear language
for when you come up with a dance so we've seen all hey we're in the dance movement now yes right
i know i'm not breaking news here,
but when I say the dancing movement,
I'm talking about for the old heads,
when Kid N Play was out making everybody hop over the leg,
that was dancing.
Heavy D, that was the dancing movement.
I could find a fucking Rock Him or Coogee rap video
where it was a dancer somewhere in the back.
It might have been a nigga.
They was dancing in the symphony
doing the Wild Wild West
bulls.
Whatever.
Big Daddy Cane Boy.
Yeah, all of that.
So now,
the hardest of niggas
had to have dancers
back in the day.
So now,
the dancing movement
and era is back
and there are black creators
at the forefront of that
but niggas is getting robbed.
Y'all know my story.
My Millie Rock guy.
My Millie Rock guy my millie rock guy
that's my guy to be to be in a brooklyn housing home somewhere and come up with such genius and
then watch it fucking take off all of them and nobody's getting paid shmurda dance so now all
of them fortnight taking fortnight everybody's taking shit right that's where it can yeah we're good so whitney said it
i believe the children are the future and we talk about knowing value and we talk about this music
industry being a predatory business meaning we prey on the kids but the full circle moment is
the kids have all the power tiktok you fucking labels and you tastemakers and you anrs and you
predatory fucks are targeting children to break your act and bring millions if not billions in
revenue to y'all and y'all give these niggas a pat on the fucking back uh there was that story
that broke a few years ago about drake and shiggy we don't know
the particulars of it it's none of our business but even that story the rumor was shiggy got 250
and then they played with that for the next few months you got 250 nigga where did you get it did
you not get it i'm in my head thinking the same thing i always think boy you wanted to pay right
i'm gonna always say that don't pay no mind. But that's a big thing.
So now all the black dance creators, choreographers, and TikTok people are on strike.
They're not dancing on TikTok.
They're not creating dances.
They're not making dance videos.
So what happened?
Are they just going dark, not putting nothing up?
They're not putting nothing up.
Like, this dude put this video up here.
He said, make a dance to it.
He starts bouncing.
And then he said, psych.
And he hit the middle finger.
Oh, wow.
So what's happening is the other side of that coin, who profits from it all, who takes the
dance and go and grow this huge following and goes everywhere, they have no content
to take.
So they're looking crazy now so who's
who's taking now magically none of the white kid dancers can dance right that's that's that's what
ice is trying to say thank you joe all of the white kid dancers that have been getting all the
money and the looks and the value of these dances yeah now they forgot they magically forgot how to
dance right now how does tiktok make it right how now. How does TikTok make it right?
How does the industry make it right?
How do we make it right?
Because this is the exact definition of knowing your power.
We going dark.
All of us are taking our content off of your shit.
I love it.
I don't know how you would compensate.
I don't know how that works.
I don't know how the monetization of TikTok works at all. I don't know how that works. I don't know how the monetization of TikTok works at all.
I don't know how.
Well, there's some stats out
that say the black creators
are paid.
I've seen that.
I've seen that.
I just don't know in general
how that economy operates.
So I don't know how
you would make sure that the...
There's a...
If you look back,
Vine is also guilty of this.
But if you look at TikTok
and Vine,
they are similar.
And the black creators on there who are usually popular, they either do this dance type of thing or they perpetuate really negative black stereotypes.
There's a video on YouTube.
I can't remember the person who put it up, but I think people should just get off it, period.
Like, fuck the strike.
We're just not going to fuck with it right now until they pay us better.
They've never fucked with black creators.
And they will only push
the negative shit that you create.
The stereotype shit.
You mean TikTok
or just social media?
TikTok.
A lot of them.
A lot of them.
And you will only get views
and be popularized
based upon pushing those stereotypes.
And it happens all the time on TikTok.
And Vine
is really the creation of
that and it's like now moving on to this new young hip app a lot of people get paid from that i hear
that and i'm not on tiktok because i'm 40 but i hear that uh the black people don't be on their
their version of the explore page no like they put the white kids at the forefront the white videos
at the front and you gotta search to search for the black kids.
Yeah, I went on there once.
It was a bunch of teenage white girls dancing.
So I said, this app is not designed for me.
And goodbye.
I'm not on TikTok either, but I know just from the social media forum, a lot of people got money or starts and shit doing a little silly memes and um little i don't know what you call
them but like like skits and jazzy the girl the comedian chick jazzy watch jazzy yeah she got a
start there or she blew up there you get what i'm saying so some people are benefiting i'm not saying
i'm not saying that i'm not saying there aren't people breaking through the cracks but i'm just
saying for the most part black creators on these apps,
they're not really being seen.
And if they are being seen,
they're being seen doing some of the things
that really do more harm
than they do help
in creating some positive black creation thing.
Again, I don't know nothing about TikTok,
but I know on the gram,
they'll push based on the algorithms,
of course,
shit your way. and a lot of these
motherfuckers are getting money and they funny and they get endorsement deals and all that shit
so i just mean it's well like in the tiktok sense though it's it's because it's it's little
clip little video clips kind of like vine was you get these people doing dances that they did not
create up you're literally taking move for move from some,
you're plagiarizing, damn it, from someone else.
And you're blowing up off of that.
It's not the same thing as, you get what I'm saying?
It's like if somebody put a skit out on IG
and then a white kid took that skit word for word,
movement for movement, and then they put it out and blew up.
So it's a little different there, but... Yeah, the last
thing America needs is a room full of
40-year-old men explaining TikTok.
We ain't trying to explain TikTok.
We ain't trying to explain TikTok.
Salute to the black creators.
Do your thing, man. Y'all want to chase some Pokemons next?
I did that. I know you did it.
I definitely played that game when it first dropped.
Dork.
Ice got really excited just now.
Over Pokemon.
Pokey Ice.
Well, no.
He saw a flyer that said Dirk is performing in Elizabeth.
Not New Jersey.
In Elizabeth.
Elizabeth.
Elizabeth's not New Jersey.
That's New Jersey.
It's not just New Jersey.
It's Elizabeth, New Jersey.
What's wrong with Elizabeth?
What is wrong with Elizabeth?
Nothing.
I don't live there.
I'm not from there.
I can't say what's wrong
with her outside of the smell
when you land in the airport.
All right then.
There's nothing wrong
with Elizabeth.
But that's Jersey's
sewer system, right?
That is what that is, right?
That's the lakes.
That's bodies.
What is that?
What is that smell?
It's the swamp.
Well, yeah, it's the swamp.
You remember how I used to smell
by the meadowlands and all that
back in the day?
But Jersey is swamp land
with a garden stick.
I know.
So why they be cracking on us because we stink?
Because we stink.
That's only when you land, though.
Niggas that stink get cracked on.
That's only when you land, though.
Nigga, LaGuardia was stink for years.
It wasn't a swamp around there.
It's nice now.
Now, when you drive over that bridge over the Triborough, it's still stink over there.
Nah.
I love those bridges.
I love all those shits.
Me too.
They stink, though.
Where's the Verrazano at?
Where's that?
Every morning on the news,
they tell me about
the Verrazano traffic,
and I'm like,
dog,
no one's on there.
And, uh,
what's the other one?
You're crazy.
The Tappan Zee.
The Tappan Zee.
The Tappan Zee.
No, see,
I got caught up
on the Tappan Zee before.
But the Verrazano, that nigga.
Ice, you Bayonne niggas, shut up.
The Bayonne niggas want to know about the Verrazano traffic.
All right, we got to talk.
We got to talk.
You know where the Verrazano Bridge actually goes?
No.
Okay, go ahead.
No, no, no.
And stop trying to educate me.
I don't care about the Verrazano Bridge.
Shut up, Staten Island.
Yeah, word.
It's the Staten Island Bridge.
Is there a bridge from Philly to Atlanta?
Yeah.
The Treyboro.
That was a good one, Ish.
The Trey Barrow Ridge.
Ish got such dad funnies.
Ice, how you feel, man?
Talk to us.
You are a Philadelphia 76ers fan.
You guys took it to seven.
Embiid, your MVP candidate, laid it all on the ground.
Left it all on the floor.
You guys have a guy who is on all defensive first team.
Two guys, maybe. Do you have two guys on all defensive? team. Two guys, maybe.
Do you have two guys on all defensive?
No, I think the first team was one.
And second team.
And Tybo made the second one.
And Embiid made the second one.
How do you feel?
You guys lost to Atlanta.
You guys were up, had a lead in the series.
Atlanta is that deal.
Had a lead in a few of these games.
How do you feel today as a Sixer fan?
How do you feel that the guy that killed you, his name is Ice?
Well, my name is Ice, so I'm cool.
Ice to Ice, I'm not mad at that.
Oh, okay.
Happens.
I said after game five, I said, yo, that might be the one to do it.
That that could be the game that gave them that confidence,
and we might lose this series now.
I said it right after game five.
Ben Simmons has to go.
I haven't changed in any of my takes.
He has to go.
We can't keep doing this.
I lied. go i didn't haven't changed in any of my takes he has to go we can't keep doing this i lied
i bought i tried to convince myself that ben simmons was the truth oh it's all right he'll
get his shot he'll get his shot no no no get him out of here we need a scorer we need another star
my favorite part of this play where simmons passed it to homeboy and he missed the layup on two defenders with Simmons
throwing his hands in the air, man.
Yo, how you miss?
Wait, look at him throw his
hands up in the air after the miss.
Oh, yo, that's crazy.
Yo, with a foul. Yo, you were
supposed to baptize. Oh my God, come on.
Raph, Raph, Raph, Raph.
Yo, so one of my favorite things to do over the past two weeks
was searching the names Rudy Gobert, Joe Harris, and Ben Simmons.
Boy, it's been a load of fun.
Y'all are really ganging up on Ben Simmons.
Where are all the mental health advocates?
Poor guy.
Funny how we just forget about niggas' mental health.
Y'all are showing me vids of ben simmons
at practice during shoot around where it looks like he's playing around the world
and missing everything you know when niggas miss the layup portion of around the world
first two baskets that's what he doing the trainer dude in there he ain't even he's just
throwing him the ball not even thinking about him. Anybody else in here shooting Steph Curry shots.
Ben, look at this.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
No.
Babe, it's a picture of Ben Simmons.
Dude don't even want to.
No, just stare at this.
Just stare at this for a minute.
From right outside the paint.
Look, stare at this.
Look, this is me.
I can do this.
That's not funny, dog.
This is a professional athlete.
I never saw that.
Yeah, I never saw that. This is a professional athlete I never saw that Yeah I never saw that
This is a professional
NBA athlete
Those are layups
But the problem here is
I don't know if y'all
Want to talk about it here
Because we getting out of here
These niggas and their
Video game addictions
And their fashion addictions
They don't care about this shit
He shot 37% from the line
That's crazy man
He's a guard
Bro he went 4 for 14 Well we don't know if he's a guard I don't know what he is He's a guard. Bro, he went 4 for 14.
Well, we don't know if he's a guard.
I don't know what he is.
He's a guard.
He played point.
If you're a Sixer fan, the day has come.
Fam, he's the point guard.
You want him gone.
Yes, that's all.
We want him gone.
I'm not even mad no more.
I just want him out of here.
Yo, just send him over there to L.A., man.
We'll take him.
I told you that's where he's going.
I told you he's going to L.A.
No, crazy as hell.
He's going to thrive in L.A.
No, we won't. You think he'll do going to L.A. No, we won't.
You think he'll do that in L.A.?
We need shooters.
Do you think he'll do that in L.A.?
We need shooters in L.A.
That nigga is 6'10 and plays hellified defense.
We will take him in L.A.
Now who you give up for him?
Y'all don't want him.
It's rabbit season on him right now.
What the fuck is wrong with you, yo?
Y'all giving him away
Brooklyn lost as well
ish your Milwaukee prediction turns out to be correct
I thank you for that
I didn't thank you for anything
I wasn't complimenting you
yeah Parks was saying fear the deer
how do you feel being such an
accurate sports forecaster fan duel look out
it's a gift it's a gift all right you don't even speak up
on the mic let me just say yes it's like you know the gift that keeps giving huh yeah son's gonna
get this year i called that one i think the sun's take it no you both picked the suns over the
clippers over everybody everybody remaining my original picks were uh clippers because i thought
rondo would get run but he's not. So CP3 about to go nuts.
We don't even know when he's coming back.
I know.
But with Devin Booker doing what he's doing,
he can rest up.
Yeah, don't really matter.
Stephen A. Smith says that Devin Booker
is the next Kobe Bryant.
Stephen A. Smith is a nut.
I think that's one of the dumbest takes I've ever heard.
Stephen A. Smith just be talking for the...
He a troll now.
I like Stephen A. Smith.
I don't care. That's my man. He's a troll now. I like Stephen A. Smith. I don't care.
That's my man.
He's a troll now.
That's Antoine saying that.
That is Antoine saying that.
Devin Booker is nice, though.
He's not the next Kobe.
He's a young killer.
He ain't not Kobe nothing.
He ain't Tatum.
Don't call nobody the next Kobe.
He ain't Tatum.
Just chill out.
He ain't Tatum.
Tatum gives me more Kobe than Devin.
I agree.
Ten times more Kobe than Devin.
And then Stephen A. got to talking about footwork. And while Devin's footwork, maybe he better go look at Tatum again. He better look at Tatum. Tatum gives me more Kobe than Devin. I agree. Ten times more Kobe than Devin. And then Stephen A got to talking about footwork.
And while Devin's footwork, maybe he better go look at Tatum again.
He better look at Tatum.
Tatum's nice too.
And neither one of them could tie Kobe's sneakers on the defensive side.
So, I mean, why do we bring up Kobe's name in this?
Like, let him just be the different animal that he is.
One of the famous clips going around, the irony in this,
is Devin Booker in an open gym
practicing where they went to send a double team and he was bitching, yo, we not doing
that.
We not doubling in the open gym.
We not doubling in the open gym.
I'm trying to work on my game.
And everybody else was like, nigga, that's working on your game.
We going to double you.
Then they interview Kobe.
Then they interview Kobe and he say, yo, what are you doing, niggas, doubling in the open
gym?
And Kobe said, they got to send another one.
You better send another one.
So it's just that killer
that instinct
that mentality bro
it's just a little
different
shout out to Devin Booker
and the Phoenix Suns
what an incredible ride
and I think they'll win it now
cause this is just
such a great story
for the league
yeah
uh
great story for
the league
or Chris Paul
the league
why
parody
mhm
indeed when did we got the parody you see that was the first thing they started pushing hey LeBron and Steph The league or Chris Paul? The league. Why? Parody. Mm-hmm.
Indeed. When did we got parity?
Indeed.
You see, that was the first thing they started pushing.
Hey, LeBron and Steph was all in on the final.
Now we got somebody new.
Yeah.
Hey, after everybody lose, they say, hey, these teams haven't won a championship since
71 and 58 and never and never.
They can shut up.
No, no, no.
They're going to find their story somewhere.
The NBA, they happy.
I never even thought about that because now it could potentially stop all the super teams.
Everybody trying to gang up and become super teams.
Y'all had three this year.
And it puts his small market thing to rest.
Like the NBA, I think, is happy for a plethora of reasons.
Yeah.
Right?
And totally aside from that, fuck, I just had an amazing point to get to.
Oh, round of applause.
Three black coaches in the of applause. Three black coaches
in the conference finals.
Three black coaches.
Tyronn Lue.
Let's go.
Nate McMillan.
Pay him.
Nate McMillan, let's go.
Oh, yeah.
Monte Williams.
100%.
Monte Williams,
if I'm not mistaken,
a Knick draft pick,
Monte Williams.
That's off memory.
I could be wrong.
Huh? I think it was Orlando memory. I could be wrong. Huh?
I think it was Orlando, but you might be right.
I think it was.
I think it was.
See where he went.
See where he went.
Let's figure it out.
He played for the Spurs for a long time.
There's an A in draft.
By the Knicks.
I think it's the Knicks.
I am so old.
Yeah, selected by the Knicks.
What year was that?
Because I was hyped.
94.
94.
My dumb ass was hyped, too, because he was getting busy in college a little bit.
All right. Notre Dame kid that was the
late first round pick
yep oh my god
oh shout out to him
and three black
coaches is a real
big that's a huge
big deal a huge
big deal a huge
story I mean
Barkley and I'm
talking about it
it's not being
spoken about enough
I agree Barkley
and them is the
best show ever
they are they the best podcast ever. They are. They're the best podcast
ever. Facts. Seriously.
They're not a podcast.
What are they?
It's a show. It's a show. See, but I have
to make that distinction because when I watch
their amazing show, all four of them are like
gods and goats at what they do.
They all promote their podcast.
And I say,
another perfect way of how to do it.
That is how you're supposed to do it.
They're not a podcast.
It's a similar,
I get what you're saying.
You get what I'm saying?
The style is similar.
But it's still not a podcast.
It's not a podcast
in the style of broadcast that it is.
It is a television show.
That's how they air it.
They don't take the audio and do this and promote it. And distribute it. Or intro it is a television show that's how they air it they don't take the audio and do this and
promote it and distribute it or intro it like a podcast they do it like a show this is a show
now each of them have their own podcast some have two Shaq is recently starting to do a lot of
talking with Robert Ori we're seeing now big shot Bob. Kenny Smith had a television show. He has a podcast.
Barkley does whatever you want.
And Ernie's the GOAT.
Yeah.
This is just,
and I know this is not a topic.
This comes from nowhere.
I give them their props all the time.
You gotta give people their props.
Hell yeah.
But even the way they talk,
like Shaq was saying,
yo,
Ben Simmons was in my locker room.
I'd punch him in the face.
Punch him in his face.
As he should.
I,
as a listener,
was like,
whoa,
that's aggressive.
But then he kept talking, and Kenny Smith and them was like, whoa, that's aggressive. But then he kept talking, and Kenny
Smith and them was like, nah, I heard the stories.
You can imagine what goes on
in the locker room. Now guess what?
Shaq can say it.
That's what makes this show so great.
Because each of them can
say all the things
they say. Kenny Smith,
Barkley, Ernie, Mamawky. Kenny Smith wasn't a
superstar, but he got two rings.
You know what I'm saying?
Like,
yeah,
everybody in their own right
could sit up there
and say whatever the hell
they want to say.
They weren't mediocrity.
Well,
Kenny Smith was kind of,
he was good.
He was a great role player.
He got two rings.
Yeah.
So,
I can talk.
Young Kenny Smith.
Young Kenny Smith.
He played hops and everything.
Hops,
threes,
everything.
Yeah, man. He wasn't for play play. He was in the playoffs and everything. Hops, threes, everything. Yeah, man.
He wasn't for play-play.
And he played with Hakeem.
That's the thing.
There's a value in just playing with the greats or being in the room with the greats or seeing how the greats do it.
Education, all that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Salute to these guys, man.
Phenomenal, phenomenal show.
And what a way to do it.
Shout out to Brandon Marshall, too, man.
I just like what the sports dudes are doing in the broadcast space.
That show is good.
That show is better than good.
That show is good.
And it's going somewhere.
They're doing something.
Just all these sports dudes, man.
Matt, Steven, fucking Kwame.
Yeah, get it, man.
Get it.
It's out there.
So it's good to see everybody getting it.
Kendrick Perkins.
I like him a lot.
Mm-hmm.
It's good to see everybody.
Kendrick Perkins.
I like him a lot.
He was on the show, and he was talking about if one of them dudes did that to me, man,
they would have to smell my cologne.
And I was stopped in the bed for a second.
Recipe. I didn't know what.
I'm like, yo, this is big country.
You didn't get that?
No, not when he first said it.
Oh, man.
That's funny.
That's right.
That is some country hillbilly shit.
But it make all the sense in the world
when you think about it, nigga.
Hey, as a man,
I shouldn't be that close to you.
You smell your cologne now.
That's hilarious, yo.
You're going to have to smell my cologne.
I like these guys, man. Salute to you're going to have to smell my cologne. That's, that's. You have to get in my ear with that shit.
I like these guys, man.
Salute to everybody and what y'all doing out there.
All right.
I think that's all I had in sports and everything else.
Chris Paul just has the worst luck ever.
Nigga got vaccinated, still caught COVID, traded to the Lakers, got untraded.
Just heard of game seven.
Sent to Houston.
Fucked my hamstring up. Took the champs to game seven. Oh, Game seven. Sent to Houston. Fuck my hamstring up.
Took the champs to game seven.
Oh, went down.
Got to go.
Oh, my hamstring.
Chris Paul, man, we love you.
We love you.
This year?
They talking about Mellow to the Lakers.
You like it?
No.
Got it.
Imani, you like it?
I do.
Got it.
And before I leave, let me just tell y'all, Her did Her.
It's still on the Her.
Back on Her.
This is not my sleeper, but it should be.
I'm ending with this.
But, man, let me tell y'all something.
Let me stop this for a second.
The numbers came up?
No, I don't know.
Let me stop this.
Let me tell y'all something.
When she go get her choir from the snack room, I mean the band.
Did you know that when she go get them niggas.
Yo, man, y'all put them chips down.
Come on, just do the end of the song for me, please.
All right, we'll be right there. No, don't let go of me, babe
Don't play
Hey, they put them Doritos down and went in the recording booth
They went in the live band room upset with her
Hey, here's your outro, honey.
That might be her playing too on the guitar.
I'm sure.
Turn this beauty off.
How did that sound with the headphones
on and the setting I showed you?
How did that one sound?
I'm so mad they didn't invent this
when I was a child.
This new thing that they did, this new lawless, lossless sound quality.
That's not new.
That's not new.
Then what's new?
You're talking about the spatial audio.
What are they doing that's new?
Something's happening with music that's new.
Spatial audio.
This album is mixed by Jesus.
You hear different noises in the sound.
We getting too geeky right now, so I'm going to shut up and get up.
That's why I never talk about this shit.
The way that you hear these sounds is past clean, pristine.
For real.
They're nuanced.
You hear like, we used to be blown away by just, oh, you can make that come through the left speaker and then come to the right speaker.
These sounds are like put through through
angel vagina.
He's not lying though.
This shit sounds crazy.
Like I don't know how they did it.
God damn.
Do you hear that?
I got it.
Let me move on man.
What'd you say I got?
What kind of ears I got?
Poor people ears. Poor ears. on, man. What'd you say I got? I'm out of here. What kind of ears I got? Poor people ears.
Poor ears.
Poor people ears.
Yeah.
All right.
Y'all knew where I was going, man.
She's back.
Let's go, Snow.
Dead in the middle of summer.
I didn't know that love could change ya
When I woke up to a stranger
After all this time I thought that I
You and I was now debating I was up for conversation
Tell me was it all a lie I'm confused
But then you say what I wanna hear Cause you know it's gon' get me here
Every time I say that I'm through
And even though I know it ain't right
Said I wasn't gon' spend the night
If I am right back with you
Although I lost you
I, I'll always want you
Cause you take me higher
See I always want you, but I know I've lost you
I miss you
Yo
Yeah, look at how he's getting nervous
We're gonna address that on Patreon too
What the fuck, you wanna let you rap?
Yeah
What's up, man?
What you want?
Oh, what I did to underestimate yesterday
Alright, forget it
Oh, you hear Snow singing to me, y'all
Sing it to me
Then you say what I wanna hear
Cause you know it's gonna get me here
Every time I say that I love you
And even though I know it ain't right
Said I wasn't gonna spend the night
And I am right back with you
Although I lost you
That's no album available in your phone
July 9th, I wanna say
I've always wanted you But you take me higher available in your phone on July 9th I want to say hey
vibing out vibing out I can hear this in the morning you heard
see I'll always want you but I know I've lost you
we livin' We good, we good, we good, we good, y'all.
We good.
We good.
No, no, no.
Are we all right?
I understand.
We're good, though.
Let us stay on and be soft.
The fans can see that the itch is coming.
They see it's coming.
It's all right.
They see I'm itching.
We want to keep you distracted and let you do something else.
I got to get that scratch.
Nigga, it's not rapping, bro.
Shut up.
We'll talk about it on Patreon.
Do you have a sleeper to play?
Yeah.
Come on, man.
I'll go up here and get it.
I got it.
What Pooch Ice do you put out now?
Killed another one?
It's actually Gucci Man this time.
Killed another op.
It's Ice's favorite song. It's my favorite genre, man. I got another one. It's actually Gucci man this time. Killed another op. This is his favorite song.
It's my favorite.
It's my favorite genre, man.
I got another op.
One fifty seven.
He thought he was home.
Nah, he on his way to heaven.
It's just so hard.
Keep going.
You can do that.
Yo, if you want to do that, you can rap.
Exactly.
Oh my God.
But nah, this off Gucci's new album, D-Boy Style. The done up is lickin' like a rafter You a hater, you are not a factor
Big diamond choker on my neck, I got asthma Heavy watch on my wrist, it cost me a ticket
You stack your money up, get rich enough, then we'll kick it
It's bout survival, I'm bustin' at my rivals I put a glacier on her hand, it went viral
Egyptian fabric on my skin, it came from Cairo Say ain't no cap in your route, but you a gyro They keep me out of college, I wasn't embarrassed I graduated from Pornhub, moved on to Carrots
I promoted myself, gave me a salary It's still hard to believe I'm a celerity
Dark shades, I still see all the jealousy I'm in a Pegasus, I'm racin' for my legacy
I'ma rock my jewelry D-Boy style
Bust down my watch, bust down my smile These four niggas try to steal my style
But cooking up grounds can't go out of style They said Gucci went broke, I said, hurt your
mouth Mouth paper got paper, they done fucked up
now Kick back on the couch in this big ass house
With this Olympic size pool, I went the He-Man route Diamonds so cold it's like the heat ran out
I need a Wonder Woman spouse and a He-Man house
I draw the top in the V then the freak came out
The way she suckin' on the dick I thought her teeth came out
Nigga I ain't go to practice nigga I don't wanna scrimmage
22 bricks runnin' with him like Emmett Mama couldn't talk to me, I ain't wanna listen
Teacher couldn't teach me cause I ain't pay attention
Mr. Drippy Drippy, hey, you're swimmin' with the fiction
They want the old Gucci man to do a verse for a chicken
Old Gucci man sellin' chicken for a living Water whippin' in the kitchen, even then I had the vision
I'ma rock my jewelry D-Boy style Bust down my watch, bust down my smile
These four niggas try to steal my style But cooking up grounds can't go out of style
They said, Gucci went broke, I said, hurt your mouth
Mouth paper got paper, they done fucked up now
Kick back on the couch in this big-ass house With this Olympic-sized pool, I went the He-Man route
Yeah, I had to show Atlanta some love, man.
It's only right.
Shouts to Gucci.
This is Benny Spech and Shane Noir, Love Lab.
Class murder.
Shout to class murder.
Hey, shouts to class murder, man. We love you forever.
We love you forever.
We love you forever, we love you forever We love you forever, we love you forever
We love you forever, we love you forever
The butcher comin' nigga
We love you forever
You can take the change up on me soon as you get around company Lookin' for attention, speakin' on business publicly
Then suddenly, I post to forget it, like you fuck with me
When the night you stabbed me in the back was still stuck in me, nah
Cause that'll only make us old fools, yacht master boat shoes
We bring up money and y'all get emotional
The next few years, I'm bout to coast through
I get it torn, I used to get it scorned
Like Ikeem making post moves
The nigga they never say hesitated
My pedigree never waver
And resume decorated
All my dead homies in ghettos of heaven waiting
Since I met the streets we could never stay separated
What you know about two snitches on separate cases?
Get a light sentence off your lawyer reputation
I spent days in my cell just meditating Love powerful, so if you don't mean it, then
never say it Love don't live here anymore Love just walked out the door
I'm a L.O.V. There was a thought, love me changed, don't
make love Love don't live here anymore
Love just walked out the door
I'm a L.O.V.
For what's a thought, love me, change love me
Look, I come from the jungle jacks
Broadway where my sisters and mothers slept
It got so cold at times and used to feel like the covers wet
You lazy niggas gotta separate from the ones with checks
Three steps ahead, beat em to the punch so my knuckles wet My intuition, took me on a journey to get the riches
Took a risk, you gotta test the waters to swim with fishes
Don't make love to that man if he ain't yours
Don't give him kisses, but never claim him
I wouldn't post that boy if that nigga's missing
My style is rugged, first mixtape the whole time was buzzing
Always act off of logic cause emotions can cloud your judgment
My need for figures
Busy, it's hard for me to be with niggas
Real shit, I almost lost it all, tryna please a nigga
Speak by what I'm livin', only reach for what is given
A real leader put his people in position
Respect the only thing that can be earned
The power and knowledge, cause even teachers gotta learn
I don't listen anymore That's Love Left, Shane Noir be earned the power and knowledge cause he just gotta learn that's love left shade noir benny and class murder like that benny yo yeah man
big time he's dope man i stumbled upon him and i was just like yo now he goes in he can do a lot
different shit too which i like about him yeah he does
matter of fact
I think that was the first sleeper
I ever played on
oh yeah I think it was
yeah
I didn't even know that
I knew nothing about dude
I didn't know he was with that camp
nothing
well not camp
but you know what I mean
I'm going to get it
uh
you want to intro your record
yeah
you know this ain't really my bag
but um
new dude
from
Florida
named Tafia
go to Gangsta Grills
with your man Drama
hey
shout out to Drama
he Meek
he Meek new artist
oh okay
signed to Meek
but
this is Break the Bank
Break the Bank with Meek
yeah
Isaac
yeah
I got like motherfucking
600 on my wrist
and about 270 on my neck
Drama
yeah
let's get it
Let this bitch hold my billy, I ain't seen in a month
I been trippin' sauce lately, they been eatin' it up
1.2, spend 200, we gon' even it up
Send em through, get them birdies, we gon' season em up
Hey, break the bank, nigga, I'll break the bank
New Ferrari on the strip, they said we can't Break the bank, nigga, I'll in the trenches, got my ice on, yeah All these pointers, we don't need the lights
on, yeah I can't trust these niggas, cause they pythons,
yeah Anytime you see me, got that pipe on, yeah
I'm so rich, ain't got no sex All these niggas know we don't play
Smoke that boy, he in my way
You don't hustle, don't get no play
Doing the best of all the yacht
Fuckin' him up, I'll MIA
I give a fuck about who you shot
Niggas will put your head in play
Niggas will put your brain in a curve
I give them the word
Niggas ain't got me choppin' screws
Sippin' that syrup
Excuse me, bitch, don't mean to be rude
But I got a curve
Got some words, I'm mak them moves, and I got a verb
Big bank shorty, I got 40 on my hip
40 in my pockets, that's a 40-40 lick
I stay in my lane, on some toy toy shit
I got four hands, I can't locate, cause I'm really, really rich
Let this bitch hold my belly, I ain't seen in a month
I been tripping sauce lately, they been eating it up
1.2, spend 200, we gon' even it up
Send them through, get them birdies, we gon' season them up
Hey, break the bank, nigga, I'm break the bank
New Ferrari on the strip, they said we can't
Break the bank, nigga, I'm break the bank
VVS is trippin' off me like a sink
Bring them racks out, I'm gon' bring that pack out
Damage always hittin', hit like Pacquiao Got choppers on the east, on the west, I bring that pack out, huh Damage always hittin', hit like Pacquiao
Got choppers on the east, on the west side, bring that Mac out, huh
Told her call me street, cause I got lights that never black out, huh
Dirty on me with a duffel bag with like two chains, like two chains
By sayin' I'm on that trap phone, I use contacts, I don't do names
Fuck, nigga, I'm still trappin', I'ma do all these blue things
I be wanna go back low-key, but that low-key shit don't feel the same
Trappin' on the phone, got back in money
You still get in front and I graduated Assault rifle with a hundred
Them air charge, I get coming aggravated I jumped out running sprints after that stretch
Scoop your bitch up in a lemon, got a wedge
Niggas only lit, cause you got a rat check You hot ass niggas need to go get a rat check
Ayy, meet me in the hood and get a chain snatched, yeah
If a ring missing, we gon' ring the block with 50 packs
Let this bitch hold my belly, I ain't seen in a month
I been trippin' sauce lately, they been eatin' it up
Let's break the bank
Tafia, is that how you say it?
Tafia
Tafia, featuring Meek Mill
That shit is dope
Look at you steppin' into the new decade, man
I like it
Okay-ish
You know what I mean?
Yeah
You guys got some 808s in the beat? Alright About time into the new decade, man. I like it. Okay-ish. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's what I'm talking about.
That's what I'm talking about.
That's what I'm talking about.
All right.
About time.
That shit just came out.
Go on, Ryan.
Go ish.
What you playing, man?
Go ahead, man.
Go to your...
I skip out when you start doing that.
I leave.
I don't have time to hear
what the OGs did.
Brand new, Joe.
He want to tell me about
what the Manhattans put out.
He's going to play the new artist, Sleeper.
Oh, really?
Yes.
Oh, my friend I made in the strip club that was throwing up the gang signs, he makes music.
Yo.
I'll tell you on Patreon.
I like it.
We'll tell him on Patreon.
All right.
On Patreon, I'm going to tell him on Patreon Alright On Patreon I'ma tell him He makes me
Yeah
I've been making so many friends
Take that you guys
Oh my god man
They lucky
They lucky
I don't usually leave a message
But call me when you get this
Feel
You alright?
Pass me a water please man
My stomach's hurting
There's a water right behind you
When women lie
Right behind the laptop
Hey when women lie
You must got a lot of stomach aches
I'm about to say
Your stomach hurt all the time
Yeah no bullshit
Never stop hurting
I can't listen to her say
I don't usually leave a message,
but call me when you get this.
That's not true.
Could be.
You left mad messages.
You just didn't leave it
on his answer machine.
Where'd you leave them?
You went to the spots
that you know he hangs out at.
You didn't see him.
Then you went to where
his friends be at.
You told his friend,
yo, how's he doing?
You spoke,
then you hit him and said, yo, I had a dream.
I had a dream.
I had a dream.
I hate to have a dream.
I thought Martin Luther King made that up.
Martin had a dream.
Yo, on Patreon, I'm going to tell you about Frederick Douglass.
What?
Jackie, I record my podcast
Every Tuesday and Friday
Okay bye bye
I'll call you back
Um yeah Frederick Douglass was wild
Alright we out of here
Here we go
Oh my god
Oh no
Shout out to everybody out there
With a local boo
Put a hand up in the air, please, please, please
You got some that live about 15, 10 minutes away from you
That can come over just at the drop of a dime
Put a hand up in the air, wave it side to side
Don't count on me, babe
Some of these niggas gotta hop on a turnpike
To go get some action poppin'
Long trips, long trips
Two-hour rides to get some TLC love and affection
Some real niggas got it right in the vicinity, close proximity
Put a hand wave at the side, the side out there
Let's go, Herb
I know you wanna be someone
Know you got your own shit
Local boo hit you to see if you ate today
Yo, man, I made some lunch for the kids earlier, man.
I got a little bit left over, some ravioli for you, nigga. You a man, so you like, hey,
you a man, you like, nah, I'ma eat. Don't worry, I'ma eat. She like, where you at, man?
Send it right to your door for you. Uber it right there, some food The men are quiet, they don't know nothing about that life, huh?
Don't worry about it, let's just listen to the sultry sounds of her
Keep us in your prayers
Lord knows we need to be there
If you're listening to this podcast with a neighbor
Look to your neighbor to the left and to the right
Give them a hug.
Say we gon' make it.
Shout out to the first and last time listeners.
Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there until the next time.
I bid you a due farewell.
Adios.
Arriva.
Dirty.
So long.
Goodbye.
Life is a series of moments and moments past
So let's make this last as long as we
Oh
Come on, man
Come on, stop
Stop it, man
Stop it
That's nice
Stop it
Oh, that was the Patreon topic
Imani tried to disrespect her
I was about to say something
Imani tried to disrespect
Nope, nope, nope
Don't say, nope No, I didn't You did Imani No, I didn't Imani No, I did not No disrespect I was about to say something Imani tried to disrespect Nope No I didn't
You did
Imani
No I didn't
Imani
No I did not
You tiptoed
Hey
Ready to close out?
You tried to disrespect
The great
Scissor paper rock
Scissor cut that paper now
I will not let you
Scissor cuts that paper now Hey Scissor cuts that paper now. I will not let you paint that narrative in me. Scissor cuts that paper now.
Hey, I just know Scissor cuts that paper now.
She does.
She's amazing.
Who's the rock, though?
Rock beats the scissor.
Hmm.
Play that song again.
Oh.
Stop it.
Her's the rock.
Listen, I just made a statement.
Can you just keep up with the content?
I just made a statement.
That's all.
I love Scissor.
Don't play on me. I love made a statement. Can you just keep up with the content? I just made a statement. That's all. I love SZA. Yo, this band is going bonkers right now.
Yo, we out of here.
Do remember the baddies are insecure.
The stagnant women want to travel to somewhere with giraffes or grease or Bora Bora.
Or mad shit that you never been to alone
Yeah baby
Yeah
And the closed minded women want you to teach them things
No way
The broke women want you to buy them things
Don't wait
Yeah
Ooh
The chicks with no furniture wanna go to Restoration Hardware with you
Yeah baby Yeah The chicks with no furniture wanna go to Restoration Hardware with you Chicks with three bras that they rotate and wanna go to the mall with you
Yo, stop by Vicky's Secrets, why?
If I see that pink bra one more time
You got a lint brush for everything else
Five for 47.
Keep us in your prayers, y'all.
We will be back.
Uncles at the cookout pod.
We gone.
I got about nine arguments after this pod.
I can hear them.
I can hear them already.
It's talent when you can hear the arguments before they happen.
Keep us in your prayers.
We'll be back.
Goodbye.
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