The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 466 | "I'm Shutting Up Now"

Episode Date: August 28, 2021

The spirit of New York City's music scene is nonexistent! Joe and the crew speak to the lack of musical diversity and shares his frustrations with the lack of originality in DJ'ing (5:55). Are we one ...step closer to see Drake and Kendrick Lamar collid? Joe doubledowns on his take from the previous pod after Kendrick drops a new verse calling out the "top 5 rappers" (37:10). Joe also gives more reasons as to why Kanye West is chasing Drake's album (22:50). ESPN released an apology for their broadcast alledegly being interupted and leaking Drake's album release date. Another valuable lesson learned in Hip Hop this past week and Mickey Factz issues an apology for comments he made on Drink Champs (1:30:40), Fat Joe's latest project being removed from streaming services (1:39:30), the crate challenge (1:48:35), OnlyFans reversing their policy on sex and Max Kellerman being removed from ESPN's First Take (2:19:15).   Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden   Sleeper Picks Joe | RINI - “Meet Me In Amsterdam“    Ice | 42 Dugg - “Freshman Of The Year”    Ish | Meek Mill - “Sharing Locations” (Ft. Lil Baby & Lil Durk)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 that immediately takes you out of contention of me looking at you on instagram like if i see uh any of puff sons there and the likes i'm out good on that one deuces why is that deuces got come on i'm asking you why i don't know why i can't do that but why but nigga i'm just saying. Because my, I can't. Them dudes is fucking Spoff's kids. Okay. So because if one of his kids is in the likes, you can't look at the chick picture? No, not at all.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Definitely not. Never again. She'll never get a look from me. Ever. Because that means that you in that demo. And that's not my demo. But you was looking originally. That's how you saw that he was there.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Well, yeah. Sometimes you don't know how old anybody is. You don't know. You still don't know. He could like her. No, that's one way to know. No, that's one way to know. See, I believe that if people want to know how old people are,
Starting point is 00:01:03 certain things will tell you. There's a lot of these rapper dudes out there that's just nasty and they're creepy. I told Ice I wasn't yelling this whole podcast. So y'all getting my smooth, mellow podcast. For the record, I told you that was a lot. The entire podcast. And I got money on it. Whatever you want to do.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Whatever you want to do. I'm broke. Ice, I pay you. But listen, what was I just talking about? Yes, I can't do that. I can't do that. But now for you,
Starting point is 00:01:31 that may be a bit more difficult. How old is Quincy? Day around 25, 26. Nah, he older than that. He gotta be like 30. Nigga Justin's was out 20 years ago. That little nigga old too. Yeah, he 30. Quincy's was out 20 years ago that little nigga old too yeah he 30 quincy's 30 no quincy's 30 he didn't say quincy i said he said quincy too he said oh i didn't hear that
Starting point is 00:01:52 justin i wasn't really talking about quincy see king combs 23 years old and what's the other one he's the older one right no he's a young okay but Okay. But Quincy's 30. I wasn't ever really talking about Quincy because I don't really see. And 27. I never see Quincy really dibbling in my pond. See, these are your ponds. See, that's why you got that. That's not my pond. Actually, what's this here?
Starting point is 00:02:19 Yo, does your wife know that you follow this? Do you like this dress? That is an amazing dress. You don't think so? Oh, got it, got it, got it, got it. Ain't that dress fire? Got it, got it. It's a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful dress.
Starting point is 00:02:31 All right, so listen. Mic check, one, two, one, two. Let me put my mellow pod voice on and tell the people what's going on. Let me just ask a question, though. How do you? This nigga just did, yo. Because you said I like the picture of the young lady's dress. But you have to have clicked on her picture to see that I liked her picture, right?
Starting point is 00:02:48 No. No? Okay. He said no, I'm leaving it alone. The answer to that is no. Okay. That's how the algorithms work. So if I go to something on the Explore page.
Starting point is 00:02:59 But you can't see her likes on the Explore page. And you can't talk and listen. So when you finish i'll finish and then you'll know what i'm saying when you go to explore page and click on a picture you like and then just swipe you land on that of the next photo that was a good one which was that that's how i saw you because i'd be saying to myself well how do these women get in my shit but then i when i go to it and see my friends in the likes i'm like oh okay that's out and and then that's when my brain gets to yo my friends are the illest front niggas in the world because some of the shit that i see
Starting point is 00:03:35 y'all do publicly would cause a fucking oh i see do. That shit would cause my house. I would have a long week. I would have a long week. So that's what you're trying to do? What, give y'all a long week? Give him a long week. No, no, no. I'm trying to go to more weddings. So I'm trying to push you to the altar and push Ish to the altar.
Starting point is 00:03:58 But I'm going to the altar. We just not doing that. Not doing what? What Parks did. We're not doing a big wedding. You've heard her say it to you. She don't want that. Everyone's wedding should be unique to them.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Why I enjoyed Parks' wedding so much was because everything about the wedding was Parks. Absolutely. Like, it wasn't that it was what I would have done at every turn, but who wants that? It's him and Rem. That shit was so him and Rem. It was so him and Rem. Man, I was celebrating them until yesterday it stopped quick didn't it who says that no no i get it yo they was really my they was my favorite people in the world that like i reserved the month for them until last night until yesterday
Starting point is 00:04:45 comma but get a little call back to my resentments man hey I get a little call from Parks no I don't even get a call from Parks they ask the other
Starting point is 00:04:59 fuck you Parks I get a call from Ian late at night with not even options that's one way to piss me off. For there to not be options, Ian say, yo, dog,
Starting point is 00:05:11 park's going to New Orleans tomorrow. Figure it out. I just stared at the phone. I just stared at the phone. This can't be. I just saw parks. I just saw parks. We just took at the phone. I just stared at the phone. This can't be. I just saw Parks. I just saw Parks. We just took off for Parks. Hey, if I knew you was going to New Orleans,
Starting point is 00:05:33 I would have never came back to work until you came back to work. He fucking tricked me. He came back to work to be celebrated. And then left. And then left left and now we're at work because i'm not going to do that to the fans what he did to me and then i get to joe's resentments right before his birthday should parks do that to me i can't have resentment because nigga go do what you want you just got got married. Best wedding ever.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Round of applause still. I'm joking if you can't tell that I'm joking right now. These are all jokes. I was shocked that he was here the last part, but he shouldn't have been here the last part, and I shouldn't have been here neither. We all should have just been chilling for the rest of the month. Which is what the plan was. Because I got a birthday coming up, And I'm taking off for my birthday.
Starting point is 00:06:27 So then we just taking off for the month. No, stupid-ass Joe, I'm going to come in, I'm going to give him a pod. I'm going to give him a pod. Because when Corey sends me the message that says, yo, we're going to have a little kickback, give me a short list of names of people you want there so we can celebrate you. And then I try to come up with the names,
Starting point is 00:06:44 and the names is people I do the pod with well then we might as well pod i got plenty i got so many resentments they coming out i'm getting them out i think this is the last pod before my birthday i think yeah yeah my resentment is. Parks, I hope you're having a great time in New Orleans, but man, that was some bullshit. Fuck you, man. I would have took me a little trip somewhere. How y'all doing? How y'all feeling?
Starting point is 00:07:14 Y'all all right? Y'all good? Y'all ready to pod? Yeah, I'm ready to pod. All y'all? Yes, sir. Ready to pod. All right, good, good, good, good, good, good.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Yes, sir. Need this up a little loud in the headphones. KC sir. Need this up a little loud in the headphones.
Starting point is 00:07:28 KC, I need this up a little loud in the headphones. No, Joe Biden. Mic check, 1-2-1-2. Microphone check, 1- two, one, two Microphone check, one, two, one, two Salutations Shout out to the first and last time listeners we hear Thanks to the squad Shout out to the Virgos
Starting point is 00:07:56 It's our time Let me lick a shot for Big Papa Heaven Uh-oh Nah, I'm in my white boy bag When I start like that, it's on Big Pop in heaven. Uh-oh. Nah, I'm in my white boy bag. When I start like that, it's on. Okay. Shout out to the ladies out there.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Everybody enjoying the end of the summer. We getting there. It's real. This shit flew by August flew by All of this shit flew by Appreciate the moments while you have them You heard me? Money's a matter
Starting point is 00:08:36 If you're ready for love You ain't gonna get too far Talk to him Oh, here she comes. Watch out, boy. She'll chew you up. Tell us. Oh, here she comes. End of the summer is coming. A lot of y'all got money on your head for the ladies. Be careful. Be careful. Watch out, boy. You are being targeted for the winter lockdown. Be careful. It's coming. And it's raining all day, I love this. Vibe with me in my white boy bag, let's go then. So long, I've been looking too hard I've been waiting too long Sometimes I don't know what I will find
Starting point is 00:10:04 I only know it's a matter of time me y'all know about it. We vibing. Guess what? When you love someone, baby. That's right now. It's for the lovers. We still doing it for the lovers out there. It feels so right, so wrong, true. I need to know Uh-oh Out there, sing along, it goes Maybe I'm wrong Won't you tell me if I'm coming on too strong This heart of mine has been hurt before
Starting point is 00:10:41 This time I wanna be sure I've been waiting All together, again! You're the love that will survive I've been waiting Someone new You make me feel alive Yeah, you're coming to me Coming to me What else you need, huh? Just Seymour Seabass. You got everything? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Joe Button. It's Parks. It's Parks. It's Parks. It's Parks. What's up? It's Parks! You icing ish.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Microphone check. One, two, what is this? We are bike. What episode is this? 466. 466? Boy, these fours are slow. Oh, shit. Welcome to episode 466 of the Joe Budden Podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host here with a few really cool people. Ice is here. Ish is here. KC is here. Alex is here. Savon is here somewhere, and Erickson is here. And Parks is not here.
Starting point is 00:12:20 But he shouldn't be here, because why would you be here after your wedding? So, makes sense. Hopefully, he's having a blast in New Orleans. Shout out to him. I know he's here with us in spirit. Gentlemen, how are you doing? How are you feeling? Pretty and fully.
Starting point is 00:12:36 How are your stress levels? How's your mental health? How's your roster? How's your main? Wait, wait, what? Just how's everything? Everything is cool I don't
Starting point is 00:12:48 Oh they all acting right Got it They all acting right There's no they all Oh okay well she is Yes Well then she is That's what I meant
Starting point is 00:12:55 If it don't apply You let it fly Right Right if it No Yes sir Yes sir You are correct sir
Starting point is 00:13:04 How about it Have at it oh I'm great cool okay nice long-winded guys we gave you the long-winded version eyes today I see I'm playing these 80s songs on the comment and it got me to thinking about a few trips I've taken uh en route to maybe somewhere that's supposed to be lit and you got people in your car and you got the aux so they want you to have it lit in the car ride on the way there i'm against that i'm totally against that number one i guess what having it lit or you being a person to have it lit having it lit by today's standards because what that means is favio oh yeah pop smoke i'm against that
Starting point is 00:13:52 it depends on the car with you really listen to me but let's just hear me out first and then give it to me i'm a huge fan of contrast huge fan fan of contrast. So if I know we're going somewhere that got the lit DJ that's about to play the lit music all night long, I might purposely play something that I know I won't hear there on the way there and leaving. Like leaving. I came in one night and talked about how I'll play gospel music leaving the strip club. And some people laughed at me out there. how I'll play gospel music leaving the strip club. And some people laughed at me out there.
Starting point is 00:14:28 But that's a real lit ride at 3, 4 a.m. with the city skyline a certain way or whatever, right? But somebody asked me why I was doing this because they were saying I was trash with the Aux. And when I thought about it, you know that's the only set New York DJs are playing now Is that Pop Smoke Yeah the whole thing
Starting point is 00:14:48 Fabio Moneybagg Yo Lil Baby Yeah Damn Do you know that that's it That's it But has anybody highlighted
Starting point is 00:14:56 The fact that that's it No no no Only one don't do that Only one But wait It's been that It's all Whatever that
Starting point is 00:15:04 Those artists were That was the set. This ain't new. And that's the crazy part with the DJ. But that's... Go ahead, Ish. No, that's just nuts to me. Clue don't do that. Clue gets in his bag.
Starting point is 00:15:17 But for the most part, the 14 songs that come on the radio, they just repeat the same 14 songs all fucking day. I can't speak for everywhere else. I'm only speaking about the spirit of New York. Yeah. But all you need out here to have a good time
Starting point is 00:15:30 is a good bartender and a good DJ. Mm-hmm. That's it. Yeah. Anything else is a plus. Good people, good ambiance,
Starting point is 00:15:39 good weather, all that shit is a plus. Mm-hmm. But in New York, you know how many eras in music you miss when you do that? Yeah. Again, you could throw some 90s shit in. You won't even give me truffle butter.
Starting point is 00:15:52 You won't even go back to then. You won't give me the BMF Rick Ross era. You won't give me 90s R&B. You won't give me 2000s R&B. 50. None of that. You won't give me early 50. It's because there You won't.
Starting point is 00:16:05 It's knowing. You won't give me fucking the early Wale records that was rocking it. All of our girls loved. There's just so many pockets. You won't give me the golden era of hip hop. You won't take it to the 80s and give us our rock him. Let us do the running man on the dance floor. Damn. Y'all just doing the same exact thing.
Starting point is 00:16:20 So as I'm home wondering why the fuck I'm stuck in my bed. Let me not raise my voice. I'm winning money for my podcast. exact thing so as i'm home wondering why the fuck i'm stuck in my bed let me not raise my voice i'm winning money for my sister's podcast when i'm wondering why i am stuck in my bed because it don't take much for me to get out like i am i ain't asking for mr perfect or the best of conditions where's good music where's good music yo that's what that's what used to make melody so dope fam yes that dj nigga melodies that nigga will go from Michael Jackson to some fucking anything. Like, rock.
Starting point is 00:16:50 He used to just go on anything. You know what really made me mad? I went over there, right? You know what really made me mad? Like, you go to a spot. You frequent a spot. So now you know a DJ that's, you know the DJs this dear certain night. And you've been there a few of those nights over the past few months.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Now I got your set memorized. Fam, we used to do that with a very known. Why do I have your set memorized, my G? And when it happens, I look up at the booth. I look up at the booth. And normally them niggas is sipping and texting. And then I get heated at that. I'm going to be honest with you and i've seen
Starting point is 00:17:26 this first they won't even give me the feddywop era listen listen i know this for a fact some of these top top top tier djs in new york who do clubs are playing pre-made mixes at home they are with the drops and everything over yeah but it should be highlighted because that's fucked up but it's because that's fucked up my name is worth me being here i could mail it in that's what they doing fam i don't give a fuck about this club music i'm here i got three more shows so beautiful man there's so many different sounds and errors and genres and and cities and regions of they won't even give me the chopped and screwed houston set man they won't give me a good west coast set over here it's the same nine niggas you wouldn't look where you are you have to step which means i gotta fuck this same chick never mind this guy's ignorant that
Starting point is 00:18:20 is what it means no it don't that is what it means that is exactly what it means. No, it don't. That is what it means. That is exactly what it means. All right. Energy, ambiance. If the DJ that's on the flyer, if the artist that's on the flyer makes music that's going to send a wave in frequency to a certain demo, and that's the demo that's coming out, then that's who you stuck with, buddy. Joe, guess what? Now, at that Her Festival in October, I'm going to be there. You're going to see me.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Hey, wait, wait. Let me just get this point out first. OK, go ahead. See when it's different, it's different. At that Her Festival, you're going to see me there suited and booted. Nigga, I might look like a member of the nation when you see me. Wave at me. What nation?
Starting point is 00:19:00 The nation. Joe, can I say something to you now? You and your white girl talk. Excuse me? No, let me finish. I'm going to be looking nice. Might have something nice with me. My mood is going to be friendlier.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Somebody going to say, hey, somebody going to say, pop, pop, pop. I'm going to say, salute. I ain't even going to hit them. That's what happens When the energy And the ambiance And the vibe
Starting point is 00:19:27 I'm not fighting While Lucky Day Is doing Misunderstood No No I'm not Now When this Pop Smoke Come on
Starting point is 00:19:37 Followed by Duke Followed by Duke Followed by You gonna play all of it And then Back in Blood Is coming on And now I'm outside waiting for my driver who's slow.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Go ahead, buddy. I wasn't starting with this. I know, but I'm just saying. But we started with it, so go ahead. Go ahead. I'm here to argue with you. The one factor you kept leaving out with all of that is,
Starting point is 00:19:59 yo, you keep going to the same spot. Go somewhere else. You don't have to go there. You added that. No, you just kept saying, I'm going to the spot. They somewhere else you don't have to go there you added that no you just kept saying i'm going i go to the spot they play this they play this they play this they play this no no no no no you said i go i know the dj i'm here as many times i know his set no i i am a professional podcaster so while i do that what i said was if you meaning if you because it happens out there if you go to the same spot i'm not talking about what i do i move around a little bit that's what sparked this conversation for me not because
Starting point is 00:20:30 i'm going to the same one spot they're going to do that that's their business i'm going to tell them how to run it but when i move around and i start hearing that same thing from a different dj and then i fly somewhere and this is the only set I get because they love it so much. It's what's in it. It's dope. We're going to get Chicago Drill. We're going to get London Drill. We're going to get New York Drill. We're going to get CJ and every other nigga that made Drill. We're going to get the new Kanye Drill.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Everybody new Drill. There's more. There's more. That's it. I just don't know if that's being highlighted by some of the DJs. I'm holding them to the forefront. I'm holding them to that because that's their job. That's it. And I just don't know if that's being highlighted by some of the DJs. And I'm holding them to the forefront. I'm holding them to that. Because that's their job. There are DJs that do that.
Starting point is 00:21:08 No, that's their job. That's their job. It's your job to fucking DJ. Like, it's the rapper's job to rap. It's the producer's job. A&R's. Everybody got a job. And when niggas leave their job, Ice might win the bet.
Starting point is 00:21:18 When niggas leave their job is when shit is in disruption. So if we can't rely on the DJs for a good fucking set, that mean we gotta rely on the playlists and the robots and the algorithms and the white people that code them. That's very few. We all know of a DJ. You know who I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:21:35 I know, too. Yeah, off the bat. I know, too. Yo, you remember, and y'all, too. Good people to have this talk with. Y'all remember, we used to go,
Starting point is 00:21:44 hey, where is that DJ playing at tomorrow? Yeah. This weekend. Yeah. The DJ would make you follow him. Yeah. When is the last time you have done that? Us?
Starting point is 00:21:56 We older, though. When is the last time they have done it? And tell me who they doing it for. I'm about to tell you. Give it to me. In the Latino community, they follow Camilo, dog. That's not what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:22:08 No, I'm just saying, they follow the DJ. That's not what I'm talking about. For us, it's something different. Give it to me, Dan. Let's keep it there. I'm always on us. Rock on gets busy.
Starting point is 00:22:17 But he's not. No, I'm about to tell you. Rock on will give you some variety. That's what I was talking about when I said we know the DJ. I know you are. You know my stance on rock. Rock on will get busy. Doughboy will get busy. And that's the some variety. That's what I was talking about when I said we know DJ. I know you are. You know my stance on rock. Rock on will get busy. Doughboy will get busy.
Starting point is 00:22:28 And that's the other one. That's it. No. No, there's others, but I'm talking about to their extent. Listen. Don't worry about it. No, no, no, no, no. We got shit to get to. What you McCullough used to get busy? I haven't heard him in a while. Suss 1 used to get busy. Y'all kind of proving my point. Where's Suss 1 at tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:22:43 I'm 45. I don't know what that nigga got Got it Come on let's get to it We got shit to get to We do Let's argue Let's get right to it Where we starting at?
Starting point is 00:22:52 Where you think? Where you think? Where do you think? Out the gate? Yes And this is Saturday We can start anywhere y'all want But where do you think?
Starting point is 00:23:03 I'm thinking we're going to start with Kanye Huh? You said, where do I think? Why would you think that? Because it just happened last night. Night before. Oh, fuck. Where we starting at, Joe?
Starting point is 00:23:18 You think that's the biggest thing out there, huh? Or are we going to talk about what your premonition was last week? I mean. When you said the young boys in the tuck just waiting for all of them to go play and now the werewolf coming i don't want to be a narcissist but yeah but this is kind of my point with ice ice rung my doorbell today as i was jamming i was blasting i didn't hear it so he called me said said, I'm at the door. I went and got the door and I walked upstairs. He followed behind me and he didn't even say, hi, how you doing? The first thing out of his mouth was, we got our showdown.
Starting point is 00:23:58 In my head, I said, he's right. We got our showdown. I'm excited. But I took this moment to just observe how excited he was and he was damn near doing jumping jacks. Oh, come on. It's Joe's story, not yours. You got a microphone, a voice. I'm not hindering you, suppressing you. All the things they say I be doing,
Starting point is 00:24:18 no, I be letting niggas cook. You can cook. He was damn near doing jumping jacks. So I was confused. So I said, hey, said hey dog well what showdown you talking about he said come on man you know i said no i don't he said we got it you didn't see you didn't see that drake hacked into the espn broadcast and his album is dropping september 3rd and so is yay You didn't see that Drake hacked into the ESPN broadcast? And his album is dropping September 3rd, and so is Ye. It's here.
Starting point is 00:24:53 The Showdown. That's how I said it, just like that, right? Fam, I almost threw this nigga into Hudson. This nigga's so full of shit. You almost threw him off the balcony if I thought I was strong enough like I'm in my head like that's what you gave me all the theatrics about see Ice disappoints me because Ice is he ain't y'all he is y'all but he's not y'all he has more understanding of how this thing goes I'm gonna tell to tell you how it actually went when he finished. He has more of an understanding of how this game is played. So when he fall for the tricks that are made for the consumer,
Starting point is 00:25:34 I'm shocked and disappointed. So now, let me repeat something that I have said already here. That's not a showdown. All right, can I? Thank you. I think you're minimalizing. I'm pausing for dramatic effect, not for you to interrupt. Let me repeat something.
Starting point is 00:25:55 That goes for you too, Ishmael. This is not a showdown. This is one a showdown. This is this is not this is one person manufacturing something alone for whatever the reason be. That's see, that part is not my business. You're not going to get me to rack my brain today over why some geniuses do what they do. Some geniuses do what they do. We can't. We'll never figure that out. But like Drake said on his trippy red verse, this date is set in stone. It's booked already. There's nothing I could do about it. It's bigger than you. And now magically. All of us who every Kanye released released announcement have said, oh, we don't believe that.
Starting point is 00:26:51 We all have said, you too, Ice. We don't believe that. It's not coming out the 5th, the 7th, the 22nd, whatever the dates were. But now, September 2nd, you mean to believe they're dropping together now. You believe that now we've heard announcements from everybody in good music and bad music all right music niggas that was licensed some timey music niggas that didn't have nothing to do with nothing niggas that went to wisconsin for the first time in july are giving us updates no i take it back are giving y'all updates i had a wild wednesday it was a wild wednesday night went to bed late, which means I woke up late and I woke up late having shit to do that I forgot about.
Starting point is 00:27:52 That's the worst. I slept, walked through it. I slept, walked through it. That was my whole Wednesday. So Thursday, I was tired as shit when you niggas said, oh, Kanye tonight got his house. He replicated. He built his house up. He's gonna go crack us in Chicago. Oh, nigga, I bundled up like this. Nigga, I closed the drinks.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I might have flushed the Apple remote down the toilet. If there was one person. Apple, Apple, Apple, Apple, Apple. Stop. I support this shit. I bought another one. I support this shit. Don't do what y'all be doing.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Stop. Let me just get this a take. I got this to my job. It what y'all be doing. Stop. Let me just get, it's a take. I got it. It's my job. It's nothing against you niggas. Fuck with y'all. Everything y'all do. Look, Apple.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Every new iPhone coming soon. Nigga, it's an ad. Free. Take it. If there was one person in the world who was not going to get me to stay up and look at my TV, it was him. It was Kanye. It was Kanye.
Starting point is 00:29:12 And boy, did he try to get me. He tried to get his wife back. Put on a wedding dress, Kim. We out of here. He brought Marilyn Manson out. That's my guy. Nigga just stood there. I love looking at him. Guess what? No, Kim. We out of here. You brought Marilyn Manson out. This is my guy. Nigga just stood there. I love looking at him.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Guess what? No, sir. Not turning it on. Then he went and set himself on fire. That nigga tried to kill himself to get me to fucking tune in. Did it work? No.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Still ain't work. No, I ain't. I just asked if you watched it, bro. i just asked no no no because as i age it's about time and not being a slave to certain things so yes i want to hear the kanye album yes i think it's going to be amazing yes this is some of the greatest marketing that i've ever seen ever seen from anybody yeah that's crazy yes he is the genius the artistic genius that we know him to be but i don't know enough and if i can't even tell you if i'm gonna get this album because i just don't know then you will not have me be a slave every time you
Starting point is 00:30:25 pop up in a different city and put different dressing on the salad. It's the same shit. And I want to appreciate him and what he's doing the same way I appreciated Hamilton and what they did. But make no mistake. This is Hamilton. That's what's happening. Live art.
Starting point is 00:30:50 He's so ill that he said, hey, we're going to come do Hamilton, and y'all don't have to worry about the script or the music. Y'all just have to show up and do Hamilton, because I'm providing the music and it's live art and it's traveling and it's growing and it's improv-ing and we're getting reports on the fans and we're seeing the lines and it's hip-hop and it's rap but it's not but it's gospel but no merit but what is that I don't know and he's a genius on genius plane and most of us are not so I ain't gonna waste time trying to figure it out but Kanye like I said last part when he's in his true state is artistic genius everything else I'm blocking out I'm
Starting point is 00:31:47 blocking it out so yes I think that he has been chasing Drake's date him only him not Lucian not Universal not Justin Laboe not Steven Victor, the one person powerful enough to wait for it. And you didn't have to wait long because you knew it was coming. Everybody knew it was coming because Drake is a year late. That's what the scientists do. I'm sure he didn't plan on breaking his hip bone or whatever the fuck he did. That wasn't in the forecast. COVID too.
Starting point is 00:32:27 There's some reasons that this is pushed back. But no, I don't appreciate that move from Kanye West. I'm not falling for it. I'm just getting the album whenever you put it out. But I ain't about to keep popping up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're going to have to set a whole lot of more shit on fire than just you.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I need to see a lot more burning. Light a fan on fire. What? You can't light a fan on fire. Yes, you could. I just watched Ron Artesan niggas jump in the stands. Fuck you telling me. Go light a fan on fire.
Starting point is 00:32:59 And don't send your little extinguisher helpers out to help. Just let them burn it out. Little extinguisher buddies. That nigga couldn't wait for them to get out there and phase them down. Shh. Kanye is the fucking man. But leave Drake alone.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Leave Drake alone. I said that last time. I don't get it. I don't like it. I don't like that. Give me my music. You be your genius. We already don't.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Yo, you know why this is? We never had you on the same level as Drake. Because you was here first. You did it first. You did it different, you did it bigger Like you was already a god Y'all minimize yourselves Worrying about other niggas We see it every verses
Starting point is 00:33:37 The dude with more Accolades That we think is going to win Get sunned out from the nigga that raised them. That's just history. You can't take it back. Hey, the nigga that told me how to fight, I can't take it back from him. Hey, nigga that told me how to do that, I can't go get it back.
Starting point is 00:33:59 He did that shit. I hate when Kanye varies off of that plane of the guy that did it. He did it. He did it. He did it. And he's still doing it. Don't take me wrong in what I'm saying. Don't take me wrong.
Starting point is 00:34:14 But wait, wait. I'm attempting to speak from that God tier that none of us are on. You have to try to look at it like they are looking at it at each other. You got to try to see it it like they are looking at it at each other you gotta try to see it how drake is looking at him now not old young beardless funny video making dude like dude now he looking like your dog my nigga for real i'm gonna just keep laughing i'm gonna keep laughing until september whatever the date is he looking, let me tell you what that laugh said. Yo, I wish I could DM you my marketing plan.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I'm going to show you that you're nowhere near it. It has nothing to do with you. The laugh said, yo, one day, I'm going to show you all we had planned for this. You're nothing. You're going to have to light some more shit on fire. That's what the laugh said. For him, for him, I would never. I would never. I would never. I would never. I would never.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I would never. The rest of us would never. You can't play with Kanye like that. You cannot play with Kanye like that unless you can play with him like that. It's different. So last week I said, enter Kendrick Lamar. Parks and Ice said, no. But if you believe Kanye West to be the genius that he is, because he is.
Starting point is 00:35:32 And I'm telling you that Drake has made him lose sleep. I'm telling you. I'm telling you something. And they've made each other lose sleep. But that don't change. That Drake has made him lose sleep. That means as great as Kanye is, we know dude is on his mind. And if dude is powerful enough to be on his mind, what the fuck make Kendrick Lamar think he exempt?
Starting point is 00:36:02 What make me think he's exempt from that? What the fuck made Kendrick Lamar think he exempt? What make me think he's exempt from that? The nigga that had to go away from his phone for a bunch of months? Why? Why did Kendrick Lamar leave his phone for a bunch of months? Yeah. Because Drake went to Marcy.
Starting point is 00:36:23 You need me to tell you? That's why? Because Drake ran around and gave everybody a dollar. He gave them a dollar. Yo, they're hairdressers. Niggas, they're dollars. God's plan. We the man. What the fuck are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:36:35 Kendrick left his phone. He hid his phone from himself. You ever try to hide something from yourself? And then forget where it is not on purpose nigga wrote a note about it yo where's my phone yo who has seen my phone i don't be on my shit did he say that in a note i've misplaced you know why he wrote the note ice why did he write because it was a light-skinned nigga hey hove said one day it's gonna be a nigga eating cereal somewhere.
Starting point is 00:37:05 That was the cool way to say it. Let me tell you what Kendrick was saying. One day there's going to be a fucking light-skinned actor nigga in Toronto in his room coming up with a dance. And then we go left foot slide, right foot. And then we go left foot slide, right foot slide. Everybody know we're going to do the cha-cha slide. We're going to do the slide. Listen to the nigga that got these niggas.
Starting point is 00:37:27 The game is in their frenzy. Y'all don't want to listen to me. Because y'all trying to keep hating me. But every time the hip-hop shit happens, you fucking come back, you bitch. Fuck y'all niggas. Ice, this is happening. I told y'all. This is happening. No, I didn't, you bitch. Fuck y'all niggas. Ice, this is happening. I told y'all. This is happening.
Starting point is 00:37:48 No, I didn't call your name to intro you. I'm not. I'm just telling you I disagree, nigga. I hear you. This is Armageddon is here. Okay. Finally. It's time.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Top can't save it. Punch can't save it. SZA can't save it. Punch can't save it. Scissor can't save it. King can't save it. They have to collide, especially if Lil Baby keep hanging out with James Harden. If Lil Baby keep partying, listen, we can go take a break.
Starting point is 00:38:30 If Lil Baby go to another James Harden, if he say, you know what, I'm hanging out with James Harden for the next seven months, we all gonna look at Drake and Kendrick like, on you guys. Listen, so Kendrick gives us a verse. Let me shut up. Let me shut up.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Kendrick gives us a verse. me shut up let me shut up Kendrick gives us a verse Ice comes in and think the showdown is Drake and Kanye somebody out there make it make sense for me the floor is yours all right can we start with that's not how I presented that let's start there first go, yeah, what should the right foot do? Right foot up, left foot slide. This is how he's handling killers. Everybody know that we're going to do the tootsie slide. Yes, and we're going to ride. Like, right?
Starting point is 00:39:22 Yeah, that's the tootsie slide, man. The tootsie slide. the Tootsie Slime whatever I didn't do it I didn't know the dance nigga something slime me nigga
Starting point is 00:39:30 nah that shit came on the other day I was like damn what's that I said oh shit this the joint
Starting point is 00:39:39 that didn't work oh damn got my body feeling love love stop kicking me yo damn it's that good tell you i told you joe i don't i still don't see this head-to-head armageddon shit that you keep trying to predict you treat trying to will to happen kendrick and drake this kendrick verse is not you told me this verse was about Drake that's what you told me
Starting point is 00:40:05 he told me he's talking to Drake on this verse you could throw everything yeah give him some more shit to throw you want to throw a cup what you want
Starting point is 00:40:18 I'm telling you this Kendrick Kendrick to me this is control again this is Kendrick saying yorick, to me, this is control again. This is Kendrick saying, yo, I'm better than everybody. Whoever your, whoever.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I'm smoking on the top fives, on your top five tonight. Whoever you feel is them niggas can't fuck with me. I don't care who. I don't care who takes offense. I'm not, I'm talking to all of you. You're wrong. That's my take. Your take is wrong. My take is correct. Your take is
Starting point is 00:40:52 and has been wrong for a long time. I don't expect you to realize it in the presence of a correct take. You look at it. Oh, nigga. But let's go through it. I'm down to play with you because we got a part. We got a part. Yeah,ga, shut up. Oh, nigga. But let's go through it.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I'm down to play with you because we got a pod. We got a play. Yeah, we got a pod. Who's in your top five, Ice? My top five has nothing to do with this. Yo, currently, you mean? Who's in everybody's top five?
Starting point is 00:41:20 Are there five consistent names in everyone's top five? No. No, there isn't. Or are there more like two and three consistent names? You know, like when Jose, who's the best MC, Biggie, Jay-Z, and Nas, he probably really was talking about a top five. He just didn't want to tell y'all.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Nobody gives a fuck about four and five in the top five. Nobody's going to say that. I'm here to tell the truth today. So you've fallen for the consumer Kendrick trick, and that trick is going to allow him to have a crutch so when he's asked about it in interviews, he can give us that same bullshit that he gave us with control. Oh, that's to whoever.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Take it how you want. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. I'm listening. No. No. Not it's to whoever.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Take it how you want. When you was at In-N-Out Burger and the radio was on and you heard we got rain for now and you got angry and wrote something. So all of this is because of Tootsie Slug.
Starting point is 00:42:31 And addressed everybody in it. But everybody don't matter to you and they never did. They never did. And that's what the big dogs won't ever tell you. They won't tell you that everybody don't matter it's a select group of niggas that matter and you'll never be able to guess why they matter ice you was there my whole career when niggas said yo dog jay-z's not dissing you jay-z doesn't know
Starting point is 00:42:56 who you are you were there and i was saying well let me just shut up because ain't nobody gonna believe this shit ain't nobody gonna believe that Hove might have a reason other than my musical success to want to address me or diss me or acknowledge my. And the geniuses are so ill that sometimes they do it without the consumer ever doing. Like you said, you didn't know Drake was dissing me in the 5 p.m. and whatever that fucking song was. But we won't get into that now. Here we are. Kendrick don't care about none of these niggas. It is a facade.
Starting point is 00:43:31 It is a trick. Let me ask you a question. Ask away. Do you think Kendrick Lamar believes he is the greatest rapper alive right now? Yes. Okay. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Without a doubt. Him saying, don't you address me unless it's with four letters. What do you think those four letters are? Goat. Okay. Yes, sir. Without a doubt. Him saying, don't you address me unless it's with four letters. What do you think those four letters are? Goat. Okay. Me being the goat, right? If I believe I'm the goat, I can make a blanketed statement to everybody.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I don't care. Yeah, Drake, you too. Cole, you too. You're not on that plane. You're on the wrong plane. You're on our plane. Now step it up a notch. Tell me when Jerry Rice said, I'm talking to all y'all receivers. I'm the best.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Tell me when Barry Sanders said, I'm talking to all y'all running backs. I'm the best. Tell me when Michael Jordan said, I'm talking to all y'all shooting guards. I'm the best. Tell me when Kobe said it. All the niggas that we know to be that, tell me when they came out and addressed the other niggas. They don't because they wouldn't. They would never.
Starting point is 00:44:27 They don't have to. No, those rules are still in. Drake wouldn't do it. Kanye wouldn't do it. Cole wouldn't do it. Kendrick wouldn't do it. Hov wouldn't do it. Dre wouldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Puff wouldn't do it. End of the list. Bam, Hov has done it. Nicki is on it. I know, but that's what I'm saying. When this select group does it, you won't know why. You won't be able to get. They got their own. But that's Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:44:54 That's Star Wars. I knew that when Kendrick popped up, because I tell you that the musicians are like superheroes to me. So when we know the fourth quarter is here we know the superstars are coming so if we know they're superheroes i was looking for everybody like an x-men when the x-men is in trouble and they call fucking rogue up yo dog we need you to beat do that shit you do take they powers and rogue show up and present her powers and the the Avengers, when they be fucked up, and Iron Man, he'll come rob it down, he do what he do. What I'm saying is in hip-hop, I don't want to bore niggas because this is geeky talk now. Wish Parks was here.
Starting point is 00:45:33 But in hip-hop, the gods come with they weapons. Enter J. Cole first. Rapping. The end. I never relied on a cosign tricks marketing it was just me
Starting point is 00:45:48 rapping North Carolina I'm going to show up to your house I'm walking to SOB's I'm joining the basketball team it's me my fans love me for me that was the weapon
Starting point is 00:45:56 that was the weapon are you following me? that was the superhero weapon you will never see a better marketer than Kanye West. He's doing live art. That's the weapon. It's the weapon.
Starting point is 00:46:15 It's marketing. It's Apple. It's deals. Yo, he's got a STEM player out. There's a STEM player. Audience. The fuck is a stem player audience the fuck is a stem player he's got a vocal isolator you can get this and turn the vocal down to beat up isolate
Starting point is 00:46:39 sounds he's got this innovative shit coming. Or Apple chill out. We've got Apple hardware. Oh, we're selling a hardware. Along with merch. Along with tickets. We selling everything. We selling NFT.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Everything but an album. Everything but an album. Where have I seen something like this before? Oh, Apple. Beats. Headphones. They was headphones. We all know they was headphones, right?
Starting point is 00:47:28 I'm following so far. I can't even change up the dress and the sauce on it. Best trick in the world worked. I don't know much because I didn't research this. I'm willing to bet this little thingamajiggy existed somewhere. And now we have a great way to sell it. I'm hitting a round of applause, goddammit. This ain't hate. This ain't hate.
Starting point is 00:47:52 I've only been telling y'all since 2017 that musicians have also began to devalue the music. It wasn't just me screaming, what's the value of a stream? Other niggas was trying to find out. The musicians are doing everything but dropping music. Everything.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Smart of them. Smart of them. It's fucked up. When you see the music you got to put out to get back what you got to get back, and then you see your rates everywhere else, fam, sorry. Sorry. But anyway, yeah, we selling hardware. We selling this. We selling this.
Starting point is 00:48:25 We selling that. They getting it done. And they announced it, right? Said he made $12 million off the first two. But, and they announced it, right? Yeah. Yeah. I thought they did.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I thought they did. Sometimes I was wanting the companies to announce some shit when I did the deal. Yo, do a deal, man. Tell them what the deal was like, man, so they could feel it out there, so they could see a young black creator really did this from top to bottom and it's eating like that
Starting point is 00:48:47 the people need to know no Joe nah nah we not doing that Joe hear me and hear me good we'll never do that that will never happen
Starting point is 00:49:02 so when they announce it, it's because they want it announced. Right. That's what all of them... And I'm not saying they're lying. No, that's what all of them... I believe it. That's part of the marketing.
Starting point is 00:49:15 But because I believe it, and I know how great y'all are, and I know we got a few weeks left, and I know this is all written in stone on a big whiteboard somewhere, probably run until the first week of October, maybe. I'm not clicking on these live shows anymore. That's just me.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Drake, I'm not watching SportsCenter for you to hack in with the date, but that's not for me. You didn't do that for me. You did that for the other people. Like, we've been waiting. We've been waiting. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:39 We've been waiting. Wherever you put it, everybody's going to know the date. Kendrick, my point is, because I didn't mean to go on this long tangent. This is just my argument with Ice. Ice, Kendrick don't care about the top five. He's just saying that.
Starting point is 00:49:52 And he's only saying it so that when questioned about it, he can say what he did with control. Take it how you want. If it applies, it applies. I'm talking to you if it applies. And while that's true, those are not the people that inspired this. And that's what he's neglecting. That I'll agree with.
Starting point is 00:50:09 That's the part that he's neglecting. So when you say, nah, some of y'all niggas are just thirsty for the Drake-Kendrick beef. No, we not. We not. Yo, us fans, we get off of that, right? Like, we tried to force a cold Drake beef. They just kept making music and being friends. And the fans left it.
Starting point is 00:50:27 We tried to force Kendrick and Drake earlier. But they just threw a little subtle jazz. We could never pinpoint it. And it never came. Left them very vague. Ice, we 12 years later now. I mean, I don't think nobody is that thirsty. If it come, great.
Starting point is 00:50:42 But we not trying to force it now. I'm talking about the energy that's coming from the gods I don't think it's the fans fans created some shit this verse is not about Big Sean it's not about Wale it's not about J Aleox, Nikki, Meek, Ross. This verse is not, who else you got for me? It's not about who's the little dude, but this dude. Scoot him and boot him, spot him and got him. No.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Lil Baby, no. No. He ain't talking to the Migos. So when you come in my house saying, no, he's talking to the top five. I didn't say he's talking. No, the fuck. Yo. He is not. All right, now stop switching my words. I never said he's talking to the top five i didn't say no that's yo he is not all right now stop stop switching my words i never said he's talking to the top five all right i said yo his line says
Starting point is 00:51:33 i'm smoking on you on top five tonight whoever your top five could be if it apply it apply no that's what i'm telling you and i'm telling you let me do i didn't say i'm yo stop let me reply directly to you. Let's take that one line. I'm saying that's not what he's saying. So what is he saying, Joe? I have a hybrid strain of Drake and J. Cole a little bit in there. But this is a Toronto Mansion Degrassi special.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Strain. Smoking on this. Love this. Gonna smoke more of this. When I unlock new flows to come. He told you that. You thought he was telling that to who? Tell me you thought he was saying that to who?
Starting point is 00:52:22 Post Malone? I just told you. He's talking. But you're smarter than, I'm shutting up. I'm done with you. I'm shutting up. You're smarter than this, Ice. You're smarter than this.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Don't fall for it. You're smarter than this. Again, again. You're smarter than this. Yeah, I am. I'm smart. And again, I say, people want that so bad
Starting point is 00:52:38 that you're willing to reach and apply, oh, yo, this is Drake. This is Drake. I think Kendrick, where he's at, yeah, it's Drake and you and you and you. It's's all of you niggas it's all of y'all because i'm the goat fuck everybody that's what i think you're wrong okay you could not be more wrong it ain't the first
Starting point is 00:52:59 time and it won't be nothing in this verse says that can you play the verse please yeah i want to hear the verse all right here we Yeah, I want to hear the verse. All right, here we go. I want you to hear the verse, too, because you never heard it. You never heard it. Now, low like that is good. Turn this off. Stop it.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Stop it. Too low, right? No, no, no. Just stop it. It's fine. We're going to talk over it. Oh. Because I don't have headphones.
Starting point is 00:53:22 You think that was a mistake or like by chance maybe he was just fooling around in there where he fucked up the flow the voice the cadence where he fucked all that up
Starting point is 00:53:37 then found the greatest rewind ever that we've ever heard in hip hop or battle rap this is the greatest I'm running this back that you've ever heard and hip hop or battle rap this is the greatest i'm running this back that you've ever heard and he found it somehow miraculously right now wow wow what a talent do you think that's by chance ice simple question play it again please start over no play
Starting point is 00:53:59 it from where you played that because i don't even count this shit this is for y'all this is for them this little beginning part and this is a pre-hook to a verse this is a pre-hook to a verse you know who else does that the only other person to do it the only other person to do it in hip-hop there's only one it's Drake the top five don't turn it up Sleepwalking through Oh Stop it Stop it Who's that? The top five is playing with me? He said hold on Y'all niggas playing with me
Starting point is 00:54:31 Yo You know how they say Sometimes it's not the word Sometimes it's not What you said is how you said it Yeah That's where we at right now Many of us
Starting point is 00:54:40 All of us in our false bravado and ego Say hold up man These niggas is playing All of us say it Did you hear our false bravado and ego say, hold up, man, these niggas is playing. All of us say it. Did you hear how he said it? Was it different? Did he say it like he was talking to Big Sean? Did he say it like he was talking to Wale?
Starting point is 00:54:54 Did he say it like he was talking to Jay Electronica? Did he say it like he was talking to who? Lil Baby, ESTG, Young Thug, Meek. Did he say it like he was talking to any of them? He's talking directly to Drake. Play it again and just bring that little part back where he says, hold up, y'all niggas playing with me, man. Y'all niggas.
Starting point is 00:55:11 I know. I know Kendrick. I know Kendrick Lamar. I know. Y'all niggas playing with me, man. I am the Omega. DJ Lane, Roller Gang. That's how he know to address me.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Turn it up. Turn it up. Turn this up. KC, somebody turn this up. Turn it up. Turn it up. Turn this up. KC, somebody turn this up. Turn it up. Turn it up. Stop this right now. Stop it until we figure out how to turn it up.
Starting point is 00:55:33 This is up. Because all of y'all are just sitting there cool. I know. KC, get into it. KC, turn this shit up. Turn this shit up. Y'all sitting here too fucking cool for a nigga that said hold up, man. Y'all just
Starting point is 00:55:47 playing with me, man. But he diggy closed his mouth and his teeth. I don't know what I'm playing with, man. Your mama ever talk to you through her teeth? Yeah, she meant that shit. You got a black mom. Me too. Say, your mama's black too. That meant don't make me repeat it. Bitch, I think you got a black mom too. Alex got a black mom.
Starting point is 00:56:04 A by A got a black mom. Your mom spoke to you through a teeth before. Why Kendrick talking to you like his mama? Like your mama did. You think. That means don't make me say it again. You think he's talking to Post Malone? Young Blue.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Who's he talking to? 50? Oh, no. 50. Leave Kendrick. Who's he talking to? The top five. Your top five. Your top five. Who's he talking to the top five your top five your top five who's he talking to joe your time who's he talking to who's he talking to one person
Starting point is 00:56:33 i don't have to say it he's not talking the same nigga he always talking to he's talking to kanye too saying kanye nigga move move. Stop. This is our dance. You ever spot, you ever identified a girl that you want to dance with back in the club, back when there was clubs, back when there were dance floors in clubs, back when women danced with men in clubs? Mm-hmm. You ever do that
Starting point is 00:56:57 and then another nigga walk up and start dancing? One nigga be hogging her? She danced for a couple seconds, turn around, look back. Nah dog, you're seconds, turned around, looked back. Nah, dog, you're not the dance I was waiting for. I already spotted the dude I want to dance with, and he spotted me. We've been playing I-Wars all night. He's who I'm waiting for.
Starting point is 00:57:18 That's the dance. There's one dance. Drake said that. All right. Go ahead. Play the song. Go ahead, play the song. Take it back. Drake said that. All right. Go ahead. Play the song. Go ahead. Play the song.
Starting point is 00:57:29 I'm done. I quit. I'm never falling again. Turn it up. I need that louder, KC. I've been ducking the pandemic, I've been ducking the social gimmicks I've been ducking the overnight activists, yeah I'm not a trending topic, I'm a popular answer to Metatron and Gabrielle Bitch, looking for a better me, I am a legacy I come from the 70s, the all green offspring Guns in the metal, it's a big shot, risks on cryotherapy Turn this off, please
Starting point is 00:57:56 Let me ask you a question, what's up? You believe Kendrick to be great, right? Yes When Kendrick thinks about other rappers and destroying them, how many flows you think he feels like he needs to do it? You don't need a lot. Probably one or two, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:15 He on his seventh flow. What's wrong with that? The nigga that told us he put his phone away for the last nine months and I'm not a trending topic, I don't do the fucking gimmicky gimmicks that these bitch ass niggas do, is on his seventh flow, and we're not 16 bars. We're not 24 bars in,
Starting point is 00:58:33 and he's on his seventh flow. That don't say nothing to you? That don't say nothing to the people that's listening to music? Yes, I'm telling you what it says. Do you think he's doing that for Wale? See, that's what you do. Do you think he's doing it for Big Sean? Do you think he's doing it for JLX?
Starting point is 00:58:44 Is he doing it for Lil Baby? Is he doing it for Moneybagg,. Do you think he's doing it for Big Sean? Do you think he's doing it for any one particular person, Is he doing it for Lil Baby? I don't think he's doing it for any one particular person. Is he doing it for G Herbo? Durko. Who is he doing that for? Lie to my fucking face.
Starting point is 00:58:54 I don't think he's doing it for one particular person. He doing it for all of them, huh? He letting all you niggas know. All of them. Anybody who wants to know. All of them. Because all of them
Starting point is 00:59:02 affect his day. No, they don't. All of them. Nobody's been affecting my day because my phone's been down. No, no, no, no. Somebody. That's what he's saying. No.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Somebody made you put your phone down. Play the record, man. Go ahead. Forget it. The emblem's coming. Us two and a light he ain't been through. Night day free. Got at least one B in the oven.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I'm tripping. I'm jiggling. My mental is amazing, brother. Pop off only on occasions, brother. Turn this off, please this off please turn this off please where'd that voice come from hey i could have told you how much ago whenever kendrick pop out it's gonna be voices there why because that's just in his little rogue x-men arsenal it's a lot of voices you know his fourth voice now that's his lane that's four voices for Big Sean Tell you to press play man Just press play Y'all fucked up all of history. Who went platinum? A call at a visitor. Who the fuck backing them? All been falsified.
Starting point is 01:00:07 The facts mean this is a vaccine and the game need me to survive. The Elohim, the rebirth. Before you get to the father, you gotta holler at me first, bitch. Smoking on top fives. Turn it off, please. Turn it off, please. Mm-hmm. You answer it. Read it.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Listen to it. And then tell me who he's talking to or who he's not. He's talking to everybody. Ice. Again. Ice. Ice. It's millions listening.
Starting point is 01:00:29 It's millions listening. See, because that's a big problem we got in hip hop. Listen, I'm not putting this towards you. We be wrong sometimes. Evidence will surface, and then we can't say, oh, I didn't look at it like, oh, I see what's going. Like, we don't change contextually. Ice, what you said last week, hearing this verse, you should come in here and say nothing but, oh, shit. Let's get ready to rumble.
Starting point is 01:00:54 I see what's going on. I don't see that. If you don't see, I know, because you came in my house doing fucking cartwheels. Man, you got to cut that shit out, bro. Because Kanye, you looking at the wrong fight. I didn't come in your house doing cart wrong fight. You looking at the wrong fight. It's not a fight. It's not a fight unless Apple is really mad at Drake.
Starting point is 01:01:10 This is not a fight. Leave me alone about that. Leave me alone about that. This is the fight. Pull up his first week from his last album, Candyman. The damn album? Any album. That's his last album, Candyman. The damn album? Any album.
Starting point is 01:01:28 That's his last album. Damn. I don't know. Black Panther soundtrack. Whatever that was. You could pull all the shit he wanted. Pulitzer for the- To Pimple Butterfly. Whatever he wanted.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Pull up all of it. First week, 603. Silence. Silence. No one say a3. Silence. Silence. No one say a word. Silence. Silencio.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Quiet. Suppress your voice and thoughts. 603. Ice. I know you know this, but let me be the first to tell you. There's one person that does that Not two Not three Not four And not five
Starting point is 01:02:17 So this is not Joe Budden trying to perpetuate a beef I don't give I'm not invested in this I like both these niggas I think they both great So I'm gonna get good music no matter. I don't get, I'm not invested in this. I like both these niggas. I think they both great. I'm going to get good music no matter what. I don't have a horse in this race. And I'm not looking for beef.
Starting point is 01:02:32 We tried that already, us fans. This is 12 years strong, these two. Drake did 732 last time around. Kendrick, you didn't just put your phone down on his strength. You didn't. I'm telling you that as an emcee. I know what happened. I know what happened.
Starting point is 01:02:50 I know what happened in 2005 when I went to my man house for a cookout and he started telling me about what Pat Poose was doing in the street. It's nowhere near the same magnitude. We're talking about two gods right now. But I know what happened. I know what happens when you're a creator and that happens. You woke up Sunday to mind your business, called the girl you like.
Starting point is 01:03:13 She listening to some shit. That happens. That's how the Drake Ludacris beef happened, remember? It's the wildest beef ever. That beef don't make no sense. Yeah, that's cool. Drake was dating the girl. The girl was listening to Ludacris.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Nigga, get your little demo out of here I don't wanna hear that shit right now I wanna hear Ludacris nigga Drake blew up and fucking was mad at Ludacris he never forgot that Ludacris had nothing to do with it like I'm minding my business
Starting point is 01:03:37 no I dated Scorpio they petty man they will not grow up Drake remembered that shit from 99. Said that shit in a breakfast club. Nah, man, old girl back in the day. She wild. She shouldn't have said that.
Starting point is 01:03:55 I had to. Hey, nigga dated another girl that was a Trey Songz fan. Boy, did he hate that one. Nigga brought it up in a classic album. Don't do that. She told him he'd never be as big as Dre. Boy, was she wrong. You heard him?
Starting point is 01:04:12 That was just negative energy to feed on. Hey, that nigga ain't even say it to her. He told us. Yeah. Boy, was she wrong. Boy, she couldn't have been more wrong, right? Wow. I'm telling you the type of petty that's going.
Starting point is 01:04:28 No, no, no. Listen, some of y'all think I'm crazy. It's cool. I do this podcast just to give my thoughts. You don't have to agree with them. I'm not trying to persuade you to do so. But these are the people we're dealing with. These are the people we're dealing with.
Starting point is 01:04:39 That's funny. These are the people we're dealing with. That existed when poetic justice dropped. Is that the name of the song? I'm fucking it up, right? That's my song. I love dealing with. That existed when Poetic Justice dropped. Is that the name of the song? I'm fucking it up, right? That's my song. Poetic Justice. I love that song.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Yeah, me too. That existed when fucking problems happened. This existed when Section 80 dropped. You think when Section 80 dropped, he ain't heard about a nigga in L.A. with a mixtape coming soon? Let me ask you that. You think that? You think that Drake didn't know that Kanye was about to light himself on fire soon?
Starting point is 01:05:07 It's fucking weirdo. Drake is home like, yo. Yo, Drake is home watching this. Like, nah, he not going to light himself. No, he not. He better not. Drake, you shouldn't have said you had a bigger pool than Kanye and then put a candle out soon as you put that candle out
Starting point is 01:05:26 I said to myself oh god damn it Kanye about to be a candle y'all not hearing me go ahead you talk forget about it don't worry about it
Starting point is 01:05:39 forget about it I don't want to talk no more forget about it I'm giving it to y'all I'm telling y'all what's happening and y'all keep laughing every week
Starting point is 01:05:46 and then I be being... Because you probably right. He was a candle. Oh, no, you want to put a candle? I'm a be the candle. Was he a candle or not? Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:05:56 It's Kanye and Justin LaVoy versus Drake and Academics. I said that. Oh, man. Look at that snicker. Where's he? Who? Just like he,
Starting point is 01:06:10 that ain't working no more for Kanye? Who? You don't even hear from dude no more. Who? No, he's still around. Oh, okay. He's still around. He's still there.
Starting point is 01:06:18 And Fabio says that Kanye is about to produce his whole next album. I'm excited. I'm with that. I'm excited about that. I'm super excited. I'm going to find I'm excited about that. I'm super excited. I'm going to find a rooftop to shoot off him. I got to celebrate Fabio.
Starting point is 01:06:29 You can't even celebrate him without shooting a weapon off a roof somewhere. Nah, nah, nah. You got to, you know. Just a couple, though. You don't want to get crazy. Kendrick, you can fool them. Can't fool me, dog. Been in this game for years.
Starting point is 01:06:50 It's made me an animal. It's rules to the shit. And I know you read the manual. You can't trick me. You such a student, dog. You ain't been sitting home making up PF Blang merchandise. So let me, all right now wait kendrick lamar do you think that i think you've been home helping scissor with her album what have you been doing what's kendrick you ain't way Wayne. Wayne on his off time.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Skateboard. Nigga went and grabbed a skateboard, went to the park of white boys. All us niggas in hip hop was like, yo, Wayne is a fucking weirdo. This nigga's losing it. In his downtime,
Starting point is 01:07:37 he's going to the skating rink. Yo, he put it in his rider. Like if you did a song with Wayne and you needed him for the video, he said, yo, give me a skating rink
Starting point is 01:07:45 A skateboard Y'all not understanding What these megastars can do Yo give me a skating rink So I'm not even showing up If I can't ride If I can't glide around Yo what are y'all talking about
Starting point is 01:07:59 These niggas ain't like us Well Kendrick said He been collecting beach cruisers Better been collecting A lot more than that Better been collecting a lot more than that. Better been collecting a lot more than that, buddy. Y'all playing. This is when the fans gonna hit me and say I'm biased to OVO.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Like, I ain't dissed that nigga eight times. Dissed that nigga a whole summer. A whole fucking summer. I'm not biased here. Facts is just facts. We looking at numbers, games. We looking at, and I don't even know if this is more Drake versus Kanye. I'm looking at numbers games we're looking at and i don't even know if this is more drake versus kanye it's looking more like fucking disney versus apple come on give me this bullshit that you put on the screen and i'm shutting up i'm shutting up i'm
Starting point is 01:08:35 shutting up i'm done i swear y'all talk it's what house you built man where you at next illinois where you at now come on give us something man what kind of molding need to be on those what you think about these smart fridges come on. Give us something, man. What kind of molding need to be on those fuckers? What do you think about these smart fridges? Come on. Something. For real, because I read shit like this in hip hop. Ice, you jump in.
Starting point is 01:08:52 This piss me off. No, this just piss me off, y'all. It's an ish contra. He can't talk about music. He's talking on his Dell of funky homo sapiens shit. It's me and you. Parks is in New Orleans. It's me and you here. And I've been talking for too long, and my thoughts is all corrupt.
Starting point is 01:09:04 You say something about it. You do it. This really just pissed me off. The SportsCenter saying, we want to apologize for any interruptions viewers might have experienced during SportsCenter this morning. We've had some technical difficulties
Starting point is 01:09:16 that have since been resolved. They're trying to act like this little Drake clip thing with his date is a real hack. But that's not what pissed me off though. So I open
Starting point is 01:09:31 and I'm reading and I'm watching fans say, oh shit, they really were hacked. That's what pissed me off. No, no, no, no, no, no. Y'all will not get me
Starting point is 01:09:42 to raise my voice. No, you've raised your voice multiple times already. No, but've raised your voice multiple times already. No, but even that was on the low end of raising it. Ice is right. But it was way before then. Remember I came in here and I was like, yo, yo, I knew you niggas was,
Starting point is 01:09:57 I knew we was in a bad state when I came in here and said that Azalea Banks shouldn't be able to fry her cat. And niggas looked at me like, oh, free spirit. Free speech. Do what you want. Cool. Got it. But you see the signs.
Starting point is 01:10:12 If you believe in the Monopoly gods, you see the signs. A few months ago, it was announced that Lil Uzi bought a planet. What? No, it was. I believe you, but. I'm not talking for the rest of the podcast. See? Stop right there.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Stop. Don't tell me nothing. Don't tell me nothing. Don't tell me nothing. A few months ago in hip hop, Uzi came out and said, I bought a planet. And many of y'all Was just like me Y'all said We gotta talk to the planet What was the fucking interest
Starting point is 01:10:51 What bank gave him You could buy a whole star He is the illest That's what Our dumb asses out there said Nobody said. Yeah, you probably don't own that planet. Hey, wait, they had stories to go with it.
Starting point is 01:11:11 This wasn't even a planet that we knew about or learned about in social studies. This was a 12 million planet that was unidentified until last year. He got it on a cheap. Y'all said, oh, shit. Who's he got a planet? Oh, hold on, hold on, Joe. Before we get to the planet, they said he put a $24 million diamond in his forehead.
Starting point is 01:11:32 You didn't see that? No, no, no, not that I didn't see that. I'm just saying the amount of bullshit that they tell us. That's why I just listened to her. Yeah, I get it. I'm starting to understand it. Soothe my spirit from this stuff. Hey, the other week I woke up earlier than expected, man.
Starting point is 01:11:49 You just be looking for something to read. And the third thing I bumped into was that Soulja Boy owns Atari. Yo, I don't want no smoke with Big Draco, fam. I'm chilling. Let's leave that alone. smoke with Big Draco, fam. I'm chilling. Just, let's leave that alone. Yo,
Starting point is 01:12:10 can we leave that one? Soulja Boy. Joe Budden had an Atari. My older brother had an Atari. Coleco. It was an 80-something. And Ian might have hit me one day and said, yo, Atari's selling for such and such a million.
Starting point is 01:12:33 I might have laughed. But you know who Joe Budden know don't own Atari? I'm asking. No, honestly. Yo, Atari had to come out and say that's not true Atari came out and said
Starting point is 01:12:52 Soulja Boy that's not true we own it still and y'all want me to fucking sit here on a podcast and talk about SportsCenter tweeting that they were hacked on their broadcast this morning. You might as well tell me that
Starting point is 01:13:09 Sweetie invented the Happy Meal. Let me think of some more lies. It's a lot of them. It's a lot of them, but I'm not mad. I'm not mad. Don't take this as me being mad. I know that it's happening in volume today because people are stupid in volume today. Like, people fall for this stuff.
Starting point is 01:13:32 And if you fall for it and I could get you to fucking spend some money or cop a ticket or just think highly of me, then I'm going to get it done. I'm going to get it done. What album do you listen to first next Friday? That's a question for the room. I'm probably going to listen to the Drake album first. I've heard enough versions of the Kanye album to have an idea. I do owe the baby an apology again. I hate when that happens. I hate when that happens, but I am going to apologize to him because he didn't deserve that. I'd be wrong sometimes. I'd be right a lot, but I'd be wrong sometimes.
Starting point is 01:14:07 I came in here. DaBaby said, yeah, I want to do a song with Jay-Z. And I came in here and said, well, how the fuck is that going to sound? And then Kanye put Jay-Z on a song and then he put DaBaby on a song. And then DaBaby sounded like he knew Jay-Z was on a song. And he spit the verse of a fuck his fucking life in the middle of cancel culture. And listen, art is to disturb the comfortable or uh comfort the disturbed so when you take the baby and in this pivotal moment in life and put him on a
Starting point is 01:14:32 Kanye album that's living art Hamilton and and he gets his shit off he killed that shit and whenever Hov comes on he killed it too and now we have a song that the baby killed with hope see why i need to shut the fuck up yeah we did we laughed say man you ain't getting on no record with fuck out of here i mean that's why i need to shut the fuck up though technically it's kanye's record but so that i got a record whoever was the was the conduit i mean it makes sense that it would be kanye and for me back to my theory last week i it makes sense that it would be Kanye. And for me, back to my theory last week, I don't like that it was Kanye because that's the same as you calling the locks
Starting point is 01:15:11 a day after the verses to me. DaBaby is the biggest story in hip hop. Like, he was the biggest artist in the world before all of this. Why you ain't have him on there then? But I'm not mad at you because he needs the platform now. Same as Summer Jam, He needed that support now. I just want to apologize for not being able to see that vision artistically
Starting point is 01:15:30 between the baby and Hov. Because the baby absolutely smoked. Yes, he did. Smoked. He ate food. He got busy. Full breakfast. He showed.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Waffle and grits. I always thought that was weird. You don't eat a waffle and a grits. Yeah. Full breakfast he showed waffle and grits. I always thought that was weird. You need a waffle and full But you've been weird you've been a weird you don't think so you don't think so you think it was just me weird old son Don't think he weird at all. That's the great thing right? He's thinking way cooler than both of us. Do you know that? Nah, he don't think he's cooler. Wait, you didn't know that? No.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Oh, podcast intervention. Who you think Ish think the coolest person on this pod is? Ish, tell him that you- I don't even think like that, so- But if you had to, it would be you. What the hell was I just talking about? I'm not even- Yeah, I don't see Ish as that.
Starting point is 01:16:22 I'm that super cool. I think I'm cooler than everybody type. That's why I said that. Thank you It's sad here and taught us that how to put visine in our eyes like him No, I don't think that person thinks that he's cooler than us. I didn't Forget it move on. I'm sure now I've talked for too long. I'm sure I'm sure no because people think I'm nuts People think I'm crazy fucking people may not get what I'm saying. I'm shutting up. I'm done. I'm done We gonna see it soon. See that's the thing. See that's the thing about this this music thing People think I'm crazy. Fucking people may not get what I'm saying. I'm shutting up. I'm done. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:16:45 We're going to see it soon. See, that's the thing. See, that's the thing about this music thing. Everybody's going to say something, but we're going to see it soon. We're going to always, God willing, if we make it, we're going to see it. We are going to see it. On a good day, I give Kanye half a million. On a bad day, I give Kanye half a million. On a bad day,
Starting point is 01:17:07 I give Drake half a million. That's when the fans say I'm a dick rider. That's when the fans say that I'm a dick rider to OVO. I just know the numbers. That's not an OVO thing. I just know.
Starting point is 01:17:19 I know that. I know that. Now, but wait. Now, but wait. Let me... Hold on. Because on a good day you're giving, you said a bad day you're giving Drake 500, right?
Starting point is 01:17:29 Bad day. Okay. He did close to 500 on his Lucy album of joints we had already. Y'all not understanding. Hold on, hold on, Joe. A part of what a lot of people, yourself included, was saying about Drake was he had the Apple machine behind him. People were, that wasn't a thing?
Starting point is 01:17:51 That wasn't, people wasn't saying that? Say people, don't say Joe. Don't say Joe. Joe, I got some of your unreleased diss records. Oh, you talking about in rap music? Yeah, I'm just saying. Oh, I said whatever I said. And even in the disses, i tried to give him his credit like i don't think i made it sound like apple no no not saying like it is well fam apple jam we all said you're gonna get us shadow band
Starting point is 01:18:16 more like stop leave apple all right my point i can tell you what i said about apple but why would you even want to go there again but fine let's fucking do it what I was saying though Apple called Drake and said yo anytime you want to play music
Starting point is 01:18:32 on our shit all around the world just do it text us that's what Apple called Drake and said Apple being Apple called Drake and said yo if you feel like
Starting point is 01:18:44 if you just home jamming sometimes broadcast it and that's what he did and it worked the whole world stopped rory brought me to drake listening parties like with hipsters i was there i sang to it hey i was blown away now guess what joe give it to me same company tells kanye anytime you want to premiere this new music, let us know. Same company is never saying to Kanye, we're just saying to Drake. But what I'm telling you is the same company's live streaming the same show worldwide, and the world is stopping.
Starting point is 01:19:15 Everybody's rushing, oh shit, new Kanye live stream. You know, this is not my bag, but why would you feel that? Because one's bigger than the other. Yes. I agree. But you could be one in 1A and get the same level of respect. Then what's Kendrick?
Starting point is 01:19:29 I'll subscribe to your 1A theory if you tell me what Kendrick Lamar is. 603 on a mysterious night. I ain't even tell niggas what I had going on. I ain't even tell niggas. I was at the bodega when this dropped. There's no effort in this. No, no.
Starting point is 01:19:47 603. No. 603. This was rolled out. I don't care. 603. I don't care. 603.
Starting point is 01:19:54 No, no. 603. I mean, again, like I said, with the biggest company in the world behind you, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Again, you know this is not my my I'm I've told you I'm just saying I'm done talking for the rest of this podcast I'm not trying to convince nobody or nothing see that's the thing when I talk here I'm not trying to get y'all to see it my way I'm not trying to persuade anybody everybody think what they want we're going to see. It's going to continue to play out. And I'm going to be here talking still. If I'm wrong, I'm going to come in here and say, boy, did I blunder that. Boy, was he wrong.
Starting point is 01:20:38 We'll see. We're going to see. But yeah, like I said, with the wit. Then he tried to flip it. That was just negative energy. No, nigga, you was cursing Trey Songz out. He cursed Shorty out first. You cursed everybody out.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Trey is a fuck. He is so mad at Kanye West. That nigga is so mad at Kanye West. I still don't get what Kanye gets out of this. Like, why are you barking up the Drake tree? That nigga didn't- When you didn't work? Drake didn't have another date in a stadium since. Kanye said, you know up the Drake tree? That nigga didn't. Drake didn't have another date
Starting point is 01:21:05 in a stadium since. Kanye said, you know what you did? You had a date in a stadium. I lived there. Forget it. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Go ahead. Forget it. Never mind. No, no, no. Go forget it. Don't talk to me no more. No more dates. Y'all gonna learn
Starting point is 01:21:23 about the Monopoly gods and God's sense of humor. Everybody for the last fucking 10 years. Steph Curry, best shooter in the world. Oh yeah? Watch this divorce. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:21:38 Yo. Yo. Forget it. All right, shut up. Forget it. Never mind. Hey. He's still the best shooter in the world. Yo, you. Forget it. All right, shut up. Forget it. Never mind. Hey. Hey. He's still the best shooter in the world. I mean, I hear you. What does that got to do with it?
Starting point is 01:21:52 We about to see different shooters. That's amazing. Boy, they get it in. They had a long career shooting. Ew. Didn't make the league, though. Didn't make the league, though. They out there.
Starting point is 01:22:02 I'm reading the articles. Look, look, dude. Shooter. Shooter. Ex-NFL player Got drafted in 1988 Shooter Stoned Yo go ahead man
Starting point is 01:22:15 What y'all wanna talk about Go ahead I'm done I'm done I'm finished I'm finished No more hip hop for me I wish everybody well
Starting point is 01:22:21 I wish the best for everybody And I'm just Anxiously awaiting For new and amazing music from some of our best. I.E. Kanye, Kendrick, Drake. I personally
Starting point is 01:22:34 am still waiting on Saha. I personally am waiting on Puff, Usher, the internet. I personally am waiting for a few other people like in the next year. I'm excited about the next year of music. I am.
Starting point is 01:22:47 So I'm excited about this. Don't think I'm trying to pit people against each other. I'm just excited about where things are going, how things are playing out. Hey, I'm talking shit about Disney versus ESPN. I'm not Disney. Disney versus Apple, right? Because Apple changed their shit to Donda. ESPN changed their shit to...
Starting point is 01:23:05 I even like that. Like, I'm talking shit because the purist in me is angry at that. But I like it. I like it. Because that's what the next decade is. Where you just put an album out, just... You're not partnering with nobody.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Nobody's backing you. Nobody's supporting you. Nobody is... You didn't think of some innovative way to do a deal release your shit present your shit take the picture lost this audio fucking live art fucking what is new you just made songs again nah nah nah nah hove started that shit back in whatever album that was what are you bullied saying he made samsung buy buy some? You made Samsung buy some shit? You made somebody buy some shit?
Starting point is 01:23:48 Somebody else did the same thing. A lot of people are doing it, and now we're just seeing the evolution of that. These niggas got their albums sold before it's sold. They're not waiting on y'all. You think they're waiting on y'all? Once they stop pressing albums, they're going to find a way to just immediately sell it.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Before it even drops. This shit is sold. All these numbers, they know what this shit's doing first. Play the rest of the verse. Let's end that segment. Let's end that segment. Let's hear the rest of what Kendrick had to say and a lot less of my thoughts on what Kendrick had to say.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Nigga told us mad new flows is coming soon. Who are those flows for? Not me. He ain't thinking about me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here we go. Let me jump in this bitch, let me jump in this bitch Two phones but I only bring one in this bitch One daughter but they all my sons in this bitch No hoes, ain't shit getting done in this bitch I'm scary, I got a gun in this bitch
Starting point is 01:24:48 Smoking on top fives, stop playing I'm that guy Number two at the end of my bitch That's cool, I don't ask why Who's your man? You can't trick me Who number two? You can't fool me, dog Who number two? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, You have to see if that's the person that is DMing chicks. It's two part. You could be number two. I'm not DMing Kendrick Lamar's chick. Take me out.
Starting point is 01:25:32 No, that's not. Kanye's not. Lil Baby's not. Wale is not. Meek Mill is not. Rick Ross is not. That's Baby Keem that said that part. Moneybagg Yo is not.
Starting point is 01:25:38 That's Baby Keem that said that part. Kendrick wrote that part. Kendrick said it. I'm joking, man. I'm joking. I'm talking shit. I'm talking shit.rick said it. I'm joking, man. I'm joking. I'm talking shit. I'm talking shit. I get it.
Starting point is 01:25:49 I get it. I see what you're doing. Let's move on. Let's move on, man. Let's move on. What else is important out there? What else is important that we need to get to? Yeah, give me the music stuff.
Starting point is 01:26:00 Give me all music stuff. I'm back to my lo-fi pod voice. You back there not yelling? You good again? Because I get passionate about this thing, man. I get passionate when people don't fucking see the writing on the wall. It's there. It's right there.
Starting point is 01:26:13 It's like hieroglyphics. Just figure it out. But whatever. All right. Noriega is called out after describing a number of Wu-Tang Clan affiliates as flunkies. I would call Nori and ask him about this, but Nori is a professional podcaster who would never give the scoop on another podcast, especially once he said he's going to divulge it on his podcast. So I'll let
Starting point is 01:26:39 him do that. Here's the situation. Say Vaughn, you know who made this situation come to be? The Monopoly gods Honestly I'm not joking I know you think I'm nuts This is what I mean about the Monopoly gods Mickey Fax goes on Drink Champs He does an interview with
Starting point is 01:26:59 Whoever else was there I don't know Nori being the great potter he is, asked Mickey about the infamous night where I get punched in the face at Rock the Bells in 2011, whatever year that was. I try to forget the details when I get punched in the face. And Mickey gets to talking about it.
Starting point is 01:27:18 And he gets to talking about it and he probably gets lost in the moment. But in his explanation, he is explaining verbatim, literally, that when this event happened, nobody had a proper understanding of how the Internet worked. Nobody live streaming fan saying something that he's he's literally saying this in the interview. And he's right. Nobody was doing none of that goofy shit but me back then. And when I was doing it, niggas was looking at it, calling me a goof. So as he's telling the story of me getting punched in the face
Starting point is 01:27:58 and immediately jumping on live stream, they somehow get to my apology to Raekwon. Which to me, at the time fucking six of y'all niggas in here y'all huge you're telling me to say sorry about some shit i'm just saying they can say whatever i'm say sorry to this white paint what it's a sorry to the tv sorry to this sorry to hey my son learned how to say goodbye and now it's bye to everything bye bye pp bye bye camera bye bye is bye bye bye like that. Bye bye, camera. Bye bye. Bye bye. Bye.
Starting point is 01:28:28 Like, that's what it was then. Hey, who you want me to say sorry to, dog? Let's get it all out of the way. Don't give a fuck. Six of y'all. Right, but he's telling that story. And he says that happened because Joe said some shit and I didn't know how it worked
Starting point is 01:28:40 and I laughed in the background and it appeared to be a cosign and I was in it from that point on he told that story nor he made a joke about sons of man Shaheen the rugged child uh killer army all of the woo affiliates shout out to the woo affiliates because I was raised on y'all too grave diggers I did it all I did it all. I did it all. And in that, Norrie makes a joke and Mickey Fax laughs. He laughed.
Starting point is 01:29:10 He add to it. Wait. Just two seconds ago, you told me what happened 10 years ago. You were aware of it. You acknowledged it. And then you fucking did it again. Save on. of it you acknowledged it and then you fucking did it again save on that's the monopoly gods he didn't even realize that that's what happened he didn't get it shout out to mickey fax shout out to uh all the wu-tang shout out to nori not only did he not get it. But here's the plot twist. Here's the kicker.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Just because I can say something. Don't mean you can say something. I know it sounds unfair. That's just what it is. I won't waste y'all time giving y'all Norriega's hip hop jacket and non hip hop jacket. But it's Queens, it's filled with hit records and weapons. That's there. If he feels like he wants to say something about somebody else with hit records and weapons, then he will. Fair fight amongst gods.
Starting point is 01:30:36 Mickey Facts. Know what you don't have? Hit records and weapons. I'm not trying to be funny here. I'm not trying to play him. That's my man, and I love what he's doing. But my man can make a joke if the wrong nigga laugh is coming his way. It's always been that way.
Starting point is 01:30:57 It's coming his way. He's going to say, hey, they say it all the time reading the comments. He's going, nigga, bitch ass nigga. I know, I love when he do that. You do it. Not the comments. You should call that nigga a bitch ass nigga. You should say that. I know, I love when you do that. You do it. Not the same. It's not true. Hey,
Starting point is 01:31:11 Charlamagne Baby interview. Classic Breakfast Club interview. 10 million views. Charlamagne say, hey, you ain't say that to such and such. No, I'm saying it to you, nigga. No, I'm saying it to you.
Starting point is 01:31:20 That's real. These rules never changed. Mickey, I hope you don't have to learn This lesson anymore I read your apology I saw the apology Round of applause You did the right thing
Starting point is 01:31:33 That's what you should do Too often in hip hop I just said it We make a mistake We don't come out and say Hey I made a mistake That was wrong I fucked it up
Starting point is 01:31:41 I'm sorry I'm sorry I applaud Mickey Fax apologizing in this scenario. Hey, Savant, if you didn't believe in the Monopoly gods, this is why you believe in them. Know what happened two weeks before this? Shaheen was in your face. Unannounced. Didn't know.
Starting point is 01:32:04 Had no idea. No idea. I didn't know had no idea no idea I didn't plan that separation the 180 degree what are they six degrees the six degrees sometimes less than that
Starting point is 01:32:15 Shaheen was in our look at Shaheen Shaheen was in our face and not even three weeks later deja vu happens I believe in him that's all I'm saying that's all I'm saying
Starting point is 01:32:34 Ice you're talking I'm letting you get your shit off and then I have something to say but listen to me it's Bill's Houses this is all music. Nah, this ain't music right now.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Yeah, this isn't music. And I guess you're right. This is lifestyle. This is life. This is lifestyle. You're right. This is life. What I was going to say is.
Starting point is 01:32:54 Does anybody know that Shaheem just came home? That's the other part about hip hop. We be talking about niggas we don't really know. We don't really know. Y'all don't know. I was going into that. Ask that nut don't know i was going into that ask that not like nothing should have told mickey fax that this was the person to say something about but like back in the day with me joe budden anyone but method man here's the thing here's anybody else on the list look here's the thing you don't the list Look, here's the thing
Starting point is 01:33:26 You don't have to live like that I don't think Mickey Fax goes in there and does that I didn't know You ever saw a method man in a show? He's 6'6 He's like 6'4 I'm telling you He's 6'4
Starting point is 01:33:37 He's in his 50s He works out He don't stop All his records is classic when he play them His hair makes him taller He's with 70 niggas He's compassionate His arm length is long Like I'm telling you what you just classic when he play him. His hair makes him taller. He's with 70 niggas. He's compassionate.
Starting point is 01:33:46 His arm length is long. Like, I'm telling you what you... Like... Nah. It ain't a... It wasn't that with you. Fam. Anybody else. Yeah, he was loved, too.
Starting point is 01:33:55 Like, nigga don't bother nobody. That's the thing. That's the most important part. Niggas ain't no be for a nigga. That's the most important part. Meth is just a loved, funny, cool, suave, charismatic cat. Fast forward, same thing. We thought that Shaheem was the young Meth.
Starting point is 01:34:11 It was always Shaheem, Meth. And here we are now. Who the hell has Shaheem ever said something about? Yeah. That'd be the thing. He couldn't have said nothing about y'all because he was in jail. He wasn't here.'d be then he came home peaceful and gracious yo trying to get this shit together pod peace love light but this is when you know you're dealing with different people. Mickey Fax said that shit.
Starting point is 01:34:46 And Shaheem said, not only do you owe a public apology, hit us to negotiate the fee that we want for defaming our name. And that'd be some street nigga shit. Yeah. Street shit shit Yeah Street shit Yeah that's what that is Now I'm a borderline extort you
Starting point is 01:35:09 Hey internetters Now that cost You know when you talking To somebody that's different Call me To negotiate Cause I didn't like that You gotta pay a fee
Starting point is 01:35:24 Hey I won't play this. You got to pay a fee. Hey, I won't play this apology here, but boy, was it humble. It was a great apology. He recognized, he realized. Mickey Fax is a smart guy. Yes, that's what I'm trying to say here. Shaheen ain't got nothing better to do.
Starting point is 01:35:40 He went on drink champs. Hey, don't. Hey, Shaheen. Hey. I ain't talking to this nigga, because I can't get a word From him right now with him What I'm saying is That's the goal Of drink champs
Starting point is 01:35:49 Get you on there drunk And now you start And let you slip up Mickey Facts I don't That is No, that's the goal Come on, fam
Starting point is 01:35:58 Let's be real No, that's the goal Let's be real That is the goal That is the goal I'm arguing it Wait, wait, wait The goal is this
Starting point is 01:36:04 Once you Not necessarily slip up But once you drunk You'll tell the stories That is the goal. That is the goal. I'm arguing that. Wait, wait, wait. The goal is this. Not necessarily slip up, but go ahead. Once you're drunk, you'll tell the stories. Without the filter. Because your inhibitions know that this is hip hop. It's certain shit that should be left unsaid. But when you get drunk, now it's like, eh, fuck it. You get a little looser when Ori often will try to stop you. He often will try to stop. He's leading you there, but he's going to try to stop you. He often will try to stop.
Starting point is 01:36:29 He's leading you there, but he's going to try and stop you from being foul. No, no, no. I ain't one of no foul shit. And if you say something foul and you ask him to take it out, I think he'll take it out. I would think so. I think he will. I don't think he'll say, yo, fuck you, dog. You said it.
Starting point is 01:36:42 Now, on the flip side of that, in this game, they can't edit it if you don't give it to him that's true that's right you said it and you might adapt niggas up and left there's a lot of niggas don't understand the power of the Internet that's right and a lot of people take for granted the people that might be listening to him no not just that they be listening same shit with these, not just that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Niggas, they be listening to the same shit with these niggas. No, some niggas
Starting point is 01:37:06 never got punched. Some niggas just come from a different walk of life, right? So it's a lot of times when we see shit on TV. Like, we'll see the Karens, right?
Starting point is 01:37:15 And they'll just be saying, matter of fact, we just saw it last week. We saw a white lady talking shit to a dude at a game. And he said, yo, get out my face.
Starting point is 01:37:23 And she smacked him. And he beat her and her boyfriend up. And she smacked him and he beat her and her boyfriend up. And everybody looked at him like he was crazy. Still a game, by the way. We come from a different neighborhood. It was.
Starting point is 01:37:32 When you say certain shit, you overstep the gun line. But some of these niggas be nerds that don't come from those neighborhoods and think that there are no repercussions behind what you say.
Starting point is 01:37:43 You'll find out. Hopefully you won't, but you'll find out yeah hopefully you won't but you could find out all right internet people here's another dead giveaway for you shaheem says fuck out of here we are the true and living seven and added everybody internet true and living seven he's saying he was here for he's the first seven he's part of the originators it's me i don't give a fuck what's happening i started it a god seven people were here that's what's saying, and that's my ignorant version of it because I don't know. I know you should leave that person alone.
Starting point is 01:38:30 Mickey Facts, glad you apologized. Glad you got it squared away. Nor am I in my business. Do what you want. It's none of my business. You owe it. You owe GMI. Who am I to tell you what to do?
Starting point is 01:38:41 And you from Queens. No, you got a resume. Yeah, don't tell him. It's levels to this. It's levels to this. Nor he got. Yo, I'm seeing rumblings out there that Webb is home. Seeing some things out there.
Starting point is 01:38:56 I'm leaving it alone. But if my guy is home. Well, yeah, we in August. He should be home. I think Webb is home. I'm hitting a round of applause in case Webb is home. Well, yeah, we in August. He should be home. I think Webb is home. I'm hitting a round of applause in case Webb is home.
Starting point is 01:39:11 Shout out to Webb if he's home. I'm looking for you, buddy. It's a long time. Congratulations, man. I miss you and I love you. I'll get with you soon. I'll get with you soon.
Starting point is 01:39:23 What else we got? What else we got? What else we got? We got more music. More music. Keep it all music. Since Parks want to leave. Now we getting all the music shit out of the way. It ain't going to be no music shit to talk about when he get back.
Starting point is 01:39:34 We can talk about- Just hoes. We can talk about Fat Joe? Yeah. All right. Well, a couple stories with Fat Joe right now. Two Fat Joe stories. I'm shutting up for the rest of the party.
Starting point is 01:39:44 This nigga done said this 17 times. It talk right after. It grabs the mic right after. Because y'all won't talk. Fam, don't do that. Sorry. Thank you. Well, first, Fat Joe's.
Starting point is 01:39:54 Fat Joe, DJ Drama, and Kool and Dre, the album, What Would Big Do? They snatched that off of streaming services. Album or mixtape? Is there a difference today? Project. There is a difference. There is a difference. Project.
Starting point is 01:40:10 Okay. I'm not sure what it was classified under, album or mixtape. Okay. But it was uploaded to all the streaming services, and then right afterwards it was taken down. That's a little confusing. And from what I was hearing, it was sample related. I mean, there are a lot of samples in there.
Starting point is 01:40:28 But why would Fat Joe put out an album of samples he didn't clear or interpolate? I could think of a reason. Why? You might think it's not going to make enough noise to register. Fat Joe wouldn't think that. He's too big. He's too big. He's not dominating the airways.
Starting point is 01:40:45 It wouldn't make that much noise. We do that a lot. We do that a lot. I didn't say he was dominant. I said Fat Joe would think he is too big to be able to sneak an album out and none of the sample holders hear a word. He can't think that. If he thought that, huge mistake.
Starting point is 01:41:04 I don't think he thought that. I don't know. I mean, that was just my guess. So they pulled this down? Yes. Maybe he made it to get it pulled down. Sometimes there's the story. Once again, people, I tell y'all, every chance I get, own your music.
Starting point is 01:41:20 Because when shit like this happens, y'all can't hear the album no more. All right, here's my question. Because when shit like this happens, y'all can't hear the album no more. All right, here's my question. If I wanted to rhyme over other people's beats and put it out for people to hear it, where can I do that other than Dat Piff? You can't. SoundCloud, maybe? SoundCloud and even that.
Starting point is 01:41:40 But Dat Piff is getting sketchy. And I'm assuming here because I didn't research this, but soundcloud also has monetization features now like everyone else so if you have that turned on i think still no that because that means they can't that means they can't google add your shit and i'm that's using the youtube slang now but if you have the monetization shit on and you rhyme over somebody else's beat then you're in violation and you're not getting paid and that's that. I don't know. Don't quote me on none of this. But that's confusing that Fat Joe would make this project that I've turned on in the shower a few times. I have.
Starting point is 01:42:12 A few times. More than once. And be okay with it just getting taken down like that. That's interesting to me. It's down. But maybe he wouldn't have wanted to pay for all these fucking samples. Because boy, when Diamonds and Pearls came on, you're right. You're not getting that sample.
Starting point is 01:42:26 Ever. You're not getting that sample. He's never getting that sample. It's not how much to pay. It's not happening. And I'll be honest with you. I didn't love the Diamonds and Pearls flip. Not because the beat wasn't hard.
Starting point is 01:42:38 It was hard. But I just couldn't hear Diamonds and Pearls no more. And I love Diamonds and Pearls. He couldn't clear that. Yeah, that one's not getting cleared. Like, you got to be. I don't know. He couldn't clear that. Yeah, that one's not getting cleared. Like, you gotta be. I don't know. He rhymed over the Luther sample.
Starting point is 01:42:50 I didn't know what was going on. I still play that shit. He sampled Luther and Rihanna. And Prince. And put it out. Yeah, exactly. You had to know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:43:02 I don't know, but that's not the story for me. I have this album in my, wait, did they take it out of my phone? They can't take it out of your phone. They can't take it. That's have this album in my wait did they take it out of my phone they can't take it out of your phone they can't take that's why I buy music they didn't take it out of my phone nope
Starting point is 01:43:09 so I still have it thank god um but that's not the story with Fetcher no there's a second story uh get your shit off Ice
Starting point is 01:43:19 it's not my shit so apparently there's some paperwork that was it Star put out and then i see cuban link reposted or something and it's alleging that fat joe gave up some information in the case as as the young kids would say snitching i don't know this doesn't look authentic to me but people are running with the hey Fat Joe's a rat now tell me when I can talk
Starting point is 01:43:50 some niggas said they don't believe it some niggas said they do, some niggas said they don't I mean you don't really know I mean there's nothing else filled out on this I think I took a blank and just wrote this in that's one thing
Starting point is 01:44:05 and then the second thing is it seems like some of the lingo was written around the stamp so if you look at the stamp on the left it looked like they wrote
Starting point is 01:44:13 around the shit like the sentences carry on from the right side of the screen to the left side of the screen it looked like they came
Starting point is 01:44:21 around that and kept typing you don't have to talk to me about it because I assume you have seen paperwork before I've and kept typing. You don't have to talk to me about it because I assume you'd have seen paperwork before. I've seen paperwork before. And I don't know if Ice has or not, but it don't matter because he landed on the same shit,
Starting point is 01:44:32 which is, this is not real. Like, look at number three. You see where the number three starts? It starts behind the stamp. Somebody got a blank and filled this shit in, is what I'm saying. You get what I'm saying? The number three would have been To the left of the stamp
Starting point is 01:44:45 They would've stamped over And been underneath Yeah And I know that the young kids Killed the benefit of the doubt I know y'all did If that didn't start after the stamp Reading this
Starting point is 01:44:57 I would be giving Fat Joe The benefit of the doubt This shit don't read Like nothing that I think Don Carter Gina Would say and i know you could be wrong you could be wrong but this ain't that and i'm gonna need it from somebody aside from cuban link you niggas been beefing for too long and then two decade beef with three done with these niggas i'm done i'm done I'm cool this is where we at
Starting point is 01:45:25 with the internet man this is it just make something up throw it out but you know because the internet is there and it's operating
Starting point is 01:45:32 we don't have to like we don't have to live in that no we don't we don't have to we don't have to use your brain and just think for a second
Starting point is 01:45:40 but today that does not happen it come out that's why I said I kept seeing oh shit no not Fat Joe oh Fat Joe's and rat hey let's pretend it was true let's pretend it's true let's pretend it's true okay now what if it's true now what now you'd have to answer that because fat Joe is one of the
Starting point is 01:45:59 hardest niggas from from the Bronx that the Bronx has ever seen so we know what the now what is I'm talking about in the music sense today in the music sense today we know how fat Joe would feel talking about in the music sense today. In the music sense today, we know how Fat Joe would feel about it. In the music sense today, all right, you find out that's true, what you niggas gonna do?
Starting point is 01:46:10 What are y'all doing? Y'all about to stop leaning back from blowing up? It happened. Yeah, it's not even too late. You're a little too late. What are you about to stop
Starting point is 01:46:19 Fat Joe from doing? His brother's Khaled. About to cancel Khaled? About to stop all money from like, what are we talking about? I'm shutting up. I don't even think
Starting point is 01:46:29 niggas really care about it in a music sense. They just care about it. Niggas don't never care about nothing. They don't care about nothing. No, no, no. That's not true.
Starting point is 01:46:37 Certain niggas care about it in a character sense. They don't care about it in a music sense. Man. That might have been true before. That shit ain't true today. Depending on who you are and where you from.
Starting point is 01:46:45 These niggas do not care today. These niggas will be buddy-buddy with the nigga who- I'm not disagreeing with you. But older niggas, Fat Joe ain't no young nigga. No, you- Fat Joe 50 years old. In terms of music today? That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:46:57 Fat Joe is 50 years old. That nigga's character is rock solid. And so again- That's the thing. I know. That's the thing. That's what we talking about. Let me finish.
Starting point is 01:47:03 But you said if it was true. And so, again, I know. That's the thing. That's what we're talking about. But you said if it was true. So if it was true, now that demeans his character. What does it change? It depends on where you're from.
Starting point is 01:47:15 No, what does it change for him? It depends. I don't know where he's from. I mean, I don't know no niggas up there. Them niggas already don't. They don't hold Fat Joe where he should be held in the hierarchy of hip hop history. So, listen, we're not talking about hip-hop. Well, that's what we was... Oh, that's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:47:29 I'm not talking about hip-hop. No, we said music. Then I agree with you. No, no, we're not talking about... There's nothing for us to debate. We agree with you. We all agree with that. We talking about music.
Starting point is 01:47:37 But in hip-hop... In hip-hop, yeah. This does nothing. In hip-hop, it does nothing. Please. It don't. It don't do nothing. Shout out to Fat Joe.
Starting point is 01:47:44 Why is Cuban Link... Man. I don't. It don't do nothing. Shout out to Fat Joe. Why is Cuban Link? Man. I'm not. I'm shutting up. I'm shutting up. I don't have these problems listening to her album. I don't have these problems listening to nobody's album. I don't think about nothing.
Starting point is 01:47:57 I don't care. I don't think about nothing. I put Cleo Soul on and fucking. Cleo Soul just hums you to sleep. Yeah, builds me up. I don't know what they doing in hip-hop. Cleo Soul just puts you right on to sleep. Yeah, builds me up. I don't know what they doing in hip hop. Cleo Soul just puts you right on the sleeve. Yeah, a little snow.
Starting point is 01:48:08 This shit here. Come on, what else we got? What else is important? We ain't got nothing else in music. Nothing else in music? You sure? Hold up. Where my phone?
Starting point is 01:48:14 Let me make sure. Let me make sure. Let me make sure. Nelly snuck a country album out on me. Belly dropped the album. Niggas dropped some music. Rizel just dropped some albums, right? but we don't do albums on saturdays because we want to listen to it we'll be back on wednesday to talk about it but listen it was mad shit last podcast we didn't get to we never spoke about the crate challenge i mean
Starting point is 01:48:36 maybe it's over now no they still oh no they still gone yeah they still creating out guys do y'all have a hot take or some unpacking to do with the create challenge? I'm down. It's Saturday. I just want them to continue doing it, please.
Starting point is 01:48:50 I don't. I love this shit. I don't. See, I like people just, if you want to be stupid and make a fool, if you want to be my entertainment,
Starting point is 01:48:57 sure, go ahead. Who am I to stop you? Well, call me serious, George, because I hate to see these black people on TV fucking making fools of themselves, busting their head on concrete. Say what the fuck you want to say. Yo, fucking dodo. So you wouldn't do it?
Starting point is 01:49:18 Who? You. I'm just asking, like, if you think you're ill enough to do it. I think I could barely walk now on my bad knee. You think I'm getting up that bitch making a fool of myself. For what? So how you going to square up with somebody? Because that's adrenaline.
Starting point is 01:49:32 You lost. It's instinct. You lost already. No, you all right. You just. No, I don't say so. I want you to win. But if you have a bad knee and bad leg and you can't plant.
Starting point is 01:49:41 I can plant. Then you're going to need me to be there with you. I can plant and pivot. You need me with you. Plant and pivot. No, you need. I got to be there with you. Left hand right. No, I don't. With a bad're going to need me to be there with you. I can plant and pivot. You need me with you. Plant and pivot. No, I got to be there with you. Left hand right. No, I don't. With a bad knee, you need me. You think you don't need me?
Starting point is 01:49:52 You put that little left hand get the fuck out of there. Don't do that. Your hands be all over me. Don't do that. I'm like the blood sport nigga. Yo, here's what I got for y'all. This shit this is over we missed the topic it ran its course it's over but this is what i'll say some of y'all when y'all climb up y'all are fucking this up and every time i see one of the corporations try to do it y'all fuck it up two feet have to plant on
Starting point is 01:50:21 each crate the end you can't get to the second, to the one from the top, step over the top, and then go down. I'm seeing some of y'all do that. The rest of y'all are getting those little rectangular fucking crates and putting it on a flat surface.
Starting point is 01:50:38 Not enough threat of being in danger. You gotta go. Who else? There's another scam going on. Yo, dog, counting is so simple. I dropped out of school, but I count that seven crates is the max. Seven crates in the middle is the top. I seen some wild shit.
Starting point is 01:50:53 Yo, y'all are bugging with your counting. Just count it. Look, one, two, three. Just go for the bottom. Look at this guy. Oh, my God. That's a girl. Oh.
Starting point is 01:51:03 I watched the girl with a Caesar. If there was a video out With somebody climbing on a crate I watched it No I seen Shorty do it in hills Ish do you think The government is putting
Starting point is 01:51:12 These crates in the hood For black people to fail Because that's what they said On Ish.com The CIA was dropping them off On Ish.com They said that Do you agree
Starting point is 01:51:21 Did you write that On Ish.com Yes So you don't think This is a government Perperpetrated plot? No, I just think- With the demise of black brothers everywhere. I just think it's fools doing shit.
Starting point is 01:51:30 We are so influenceable. Foolish will insult strangers. Fam, we influenceable. I think they're all fools. You're fools. Dog, a nigga just almost landed on his neck. But can he not be fools? He's a fool.
Starting point is 01:51:39 He's not a fool. I'm going to get my old back. He's a dodo. But he's a joker. He's having fun, Ish. Don't do that. Yeah, they having fun doing this shit. The kids are having fun. Hey, and I get my oil back. He's a dodo. But he's a joker. He's having fun-ish. Don't do that. Yeah, they having fun doing this shit. Hey, and I can't be mad at him.
Starting point is 01:51:48 No, no, no, kids. No. Nigga, I was grown as hell planking everywhere. Yeah, you was. That nigga was on the roof. Look at this fool. I was planking everywhere. A police fool.
Starting point is 01:51:58 He got it, though. Oh, damn. He didn't get it. No, he made it. He's a fool. You're going to stop calling people names, man. That don't make you a fool. People are just doing something.
Starting point is 01:52:08 People are having fun. They're outside. Niggas barely got health insurance. Niggas been locked. They falling on the back of their neck. More white man propaganda. More white man propaganda. So now you're going to be doing it without health care?
Starting point is 01:52:18 We can't play with craze because we're not insured. All right, watch this nigga, man. Yo, watch this fool. That don't make you a fool, all right okay people just out here doing something like i said you've never done nothing dumb that could have put you in harm's way when you were younger now the one i did see where the dude went up there and then the shots rang off let me be the first to tell you if you in beef like don't get up there like the beef is still happening. He's not a fool.
Starting point is 01:52:47 And life was lost in that shit. So rest in peace. That was a horrible story. Yeah, life was lost in that story. They shot this dude off the thing. A girl got hit. It was horrible. Oh, yeah, rest in peace.
Starting point is 01:53:00 I didn't know that. You know you can't give us nothing. We going to shoot some shit. Can't give a nigga no crates. We going to shoot at the cr the crates nigga forgot about the war going on outside no man is safe from yo speaking of the war did y'all see the um the the uh uber eats driver who saw that where he had to deliver to was in the ops hood so he texted dude yo my man you just gonna have to get your money back because i'm not pulling up out there because that's the opposite.
Starting point is 01:53:27 I did not. Okay. This is the wars outside. Everybody be safe. I know. Yo, that's what you're talking about. The war's going on outside, yo. No. What are you talking about, man? What are you saying? No, the war's going on outside. I just want everybody to be safe. Protect your neck.
Starting point is 01:53:45 Look what the war's going on. He ain't even talking about the cabal bombing. Look at him. Look at what he's talking about, man? What are you saying? No, the war's going on outside. You want everybody to be safe. Protect your neck. Look what the war's going on. He ain't even talking about the cabal bombing. Look at him. Look at what he's talking about. Fam, that girl's like four. She looked three crates at the top of the middle. That's like 10 crates high. I never saw that one.
Starting point is 01:53:55 She's not a dodo. No. On a concrete, though. She's real. She real hurt. I know Joe Budden couldn't do this because they learned me about how bones operate. When they break, sometimes they don't,
Starting point is 01:54:10 like as you age, they don't just heal right back up. So I'm not doing this. Shout to everybody that's participating in this challenge. Shout to the gay S. Starling. Hey Ish, how about that one? Starlet. Hey, Ish. How about that one? He's not a fool. Look at him holding his back.
Starting point is 01:54:39 Listen, if you're going to do the crate challenge, just be careful. That's all. I'm not talking for a second. Just be careful, all right? I get it. Y'all out there having fun. You're trying something.
Starting point is 01:54:49 Nigga, we did the cinnamon challenge. Dog. We did dumb shit. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. I watched my oldest son run in the street that was heavy with traffic to find a Pokemon that was in his phone. You did that too, right? I know you did.
Starting point is 01:55:11 Yeah, yeah. Yo, we was in Inglewood. Wait, wait, wait, hold up. When I said to him, yo, dog, the bus is coming. It's not going to stop. He said, yeah, dad, but the pink Pokemon is out there. I said, Trey, no, it's not. There's nothing out there but the bus.
Starting point is 01:55:31 And he still went and got it. Got him some points or whatever. Yeah, he got some shit. That's what's up. Now, we did that before. We jumped out the car. Who? Me and Brandon.
Starting point is 01:55:42 It was a Pikachu in Inglewood. Yo, that's back when you could not find a Pikachu nowhere, fam. Well, that's why they serve Chinese food in your high school. I said that. When I said that, you got offended. But you watched movies and ate Chinese food in high school. And this is why. And you got out early.
Starting point is 01:56:07 You got out before 2.10. You had a half day every day, 12.45. And you had pads on your wall. Went to the little school behind the school. And every day, all you had to do was color. You ain't know nothing was wrong. You just, you was coloring your look. They didn't switch no classes.
Starting point is 01:56:25 Same time. They locked your little dumb ass in that room with that General Tso's chicken. That nigga couldn't do a thing. Oh, man. This the only nigga I seen make it down. I don't care. He did it smoking. He did it rolling a blunt.
Starting point is 01:56:36 Rolling a blunt at the same time. No, a lady did it, woman did it in heels and went up and down. Smoked it. Like, people are doing this shit. Why not just play basketball in the crate like we used to do? Because it's 2021. You got to change the game up now. There's so much safer shit you can do.
Starting point is 01:56:53 We used to flip quarters. Whoever got it closest to the wall won. You win. Why do you have to do this? And let me not do that, because when it was time to walk over some shit, like I saw D.L. Hughley say, nigga, we walked over monkey bars. Yeah. You know the shit in the park.
Starting point is 01:57:09 Yeah. Yeah, we did. We walked over that thing, that obstacle course. I don't know if it's fucking great. That wasn't an obstacle course. I'm going to get arrested if I find some crates. Yo. Yo.
Starting point is 01:57:19 I was going to do this for Patreon, but every step of the way, I get arrested, so I stop. Looking for the crates, they pull me over.. Looking for the crates they pull me over. When I find the crates Wow, you got a car with crates. When I find the crates they say what's going on. When I leave with the crates
Starting point is 01:57:32 I get pulled over. And then when I go to somebody's grass they arrest me and beat me with a little nightstick or some taser. So look, let's split it up.
Starting point is 01:57:40 If it's the taser I'm going to fight back. They're going to shoot me. We all get the crates and we do it for Patreon. You got that. I'm going to record because. They're going to shoot me. We all get the crates. And we do it for Patreon. You got that. I'm going to record. Because I would smoke this.
Starting point is 01:57:48 I know you would. All right. Hey, Ice. You have a new gash in your baldy. These niggas is doing this shit on concrete, though. And you ain't had a fight since 87. That ain't true. 88.
Starting point is 01:58:01 92. 91. Why y'all think I'm rusty? NWA was out. What music was out? Why y'all think I'm rusty? NWA was out. What music was out? Why y'all think I'm rusty? Don't try to lie. Don't say it was something.
Starting point is 01:58:08 Why you think you rusty? I said, why do y'all think I'm rusty? Because when you don't use something for a period of time. You don't know that I haven't used nothing in a period of time. But what song was out? Just tell me what song was out. It ain't have no theme song to the fight, Joe. Yo, man, cut the music going.
Starting point is 01:58:20 That's how you know it was a long time ago. No music was out. You don't know one song that was out when you was fighting? I know what my last fight was. I know the year it was. That's why. I didn't got nothing to do with the music. I just want to know the song.
Starting point is 01:58:30 It was some special ass shit. I Got It Made. I Got It Made? Yeah, it was I Got It Made. Something like that. No, Ice was like three years old when that came out. The fight is supposed to break out while you out with your girl. You defuse it with you.
Starting point is 01:58:47 It's your fight. But you out with your girl You defuse it With you It's your fight But you out with your girl Big nigga stepped Your nigga ain't gonna happen right now You defuse it Yo my brother Today My brother Okay
Starting point is 01:58:55 Yo nah I ain't even Yo Come on man It's a misunderstanding Today Or I'm not fighting today Lady
Starting point is 01:59:02 Drive home Or lady wait in the car Like what y'all do What's y'all angle I'm not I ain't Drive home Or lady wait in the car Like what y'all do What's y'all angle I'm not I ain't trying to fight And this ain't a topic We gonna move right past it
Starting point is 01:59:10 But shorty would probably Your girl would get your head Knocked off Your girl not gonna go home No she's not gonna go home If you try to send your girl home She's not going home No no that's not happening
Starting point is 01:59:18 She's not going home No she's Is that right or wrong Is that good or bad You like that That's horrible She's the weapon one If you tell your girl to go home
Starting point is 01:59:24 And she don't go home You know what man That's horrible, nigga. She's the weapon one. If you tell your girl to go home and she don't go home, you're not mad? She's not going home. It depends on the situation. But then if you lose and she really went home, she having a blast. She's sipping fucking... She's sipping wine when you get home. It depends on how it happens. I don't want her to see me get beat up.
Starting point is 01:59:39 Or fight. Or win. I don't want her to see me win either. I don't want her to see none of that. No, you want to see you win, though. No, I don't. I ain't going to hold you. If my girl is at the fight, then I ain't worried about the fight. I'm't want to see me win either. I don't want to see none of that. No, you want to see you win though. No, I don't. I don't. I ain't going to hold you. If my girl is at the fight, then I ain't worried about the fight. I'm worried about her. And I don't want that. But if you win...
Starting point is 01:59:53 Listen, my girl... You know where my girl from? What do I have to fucking... If I fight, we fight. I got one of those. I know. Yeah, you know. If I fight, it's we're fighting. We know. I can't... I'm not proud. Nah, that shit is for me. That's just how she is. I don't want to you know, if I fight, it's we're fighting. We know. I can't. I'm not proud. Nah, that shit is for me. That's just how she is.
Starting point is 02:00:07 I don't want to fight nobody, bro. I'm not fighting today. It was just a random question. You got it, dog. That was it. Come on, let's move on. What else we got? What else we got?
Starting point is 02:00:15 They need us. They need us. What else? What else something else needs our unpacking? Only fans. We won. Round of applause. Temporarily.
Starting point is 02:00:25 Temporarily. Come on, I'm shutting up I think I think that what do you think happened well they said well let's say what happened first before we give our opinion OnlyFans came out
Starting point is 02:00:39 said yo as of October 1 all X rated content is a no no a lot of people, a lot of the creators came out and said, we're moving,
Starting point is 02:00:47 we're jumping ship, we're taking our content off, we're doing something else because that's fucked up. Y'all rolled our backs to fame and then changed the entire business model in front of us,
Starting point is 02:00:55 preventing us from profiting in the foreseeable future. And OnlyFans had to change their heart, apparently. They put out a note that says, thank you to everyone
Starting point is 02:01:04 for making your voices heard We have secured assurances necessary To support our diverse creator community And have suspended the planned October 1 Policy change Only fans stands for inclusion And we will continue to provide a home For all creators
Starting point is 02:01:18 That's what they put out on August 25th I'm going to hit the round of applause one more time And now I open the floor I'm going to hit the round of applause one more time. And now I open the floor. I toss it to my distinguished cast here. How y'all feel? What y'all think? I think that... Creators win. I'm happy
Starting point is 02:01:36 about it. Yeah, they will. I think that they always will. They overshot their load. I think that when you start to break it down, fam, this is what carried them. So they were looking for entertainers and A1 celebrities to now produce content on OnlyFans. I don't think it was going to translate well. I don't think nobody's going to just open up their OnlyFans every day to see Kevin Hart or to see whomever.
Starting point is 02:02:07 It don't matter who the person is. I think you get tired. This shit was Pornhub. You know what I mean? It was literally Pornhub or some other sexual sites. Everybody knew what time it was. I just don't think that they would have had any business going forward that would have been sustainable. Me personally.
Starting point is 02:02:25 I don't think it would have been sustainable I did see um originally people were saying it was the merchants the uh like the MasterCards etc they were the ones that were influencing OnlyFans to make this decision uh MasterCard I know have come out and said no we had nothing to do with that that was on their own OnlyFans have said no even with our sexual things we're still in compliance with their new standards that they're rolling out October 1st um I think OnlyFans just thought that they had the mass exodus they wasn't prepared for yeah they might have had a number in mind all right we might lose x amount of percent or whatever they'll go from sexual acts to just bikinis and no niggas was like no no when when you see people like tiger who's getting 600 plus put the video up deleting my page and telling everybody yo i'm starting a new one come over here and people saying you know what
Starting point is 02:03:23 and he said i'm only only going to take 10%. They're like, all right, bet. Let's go. It's a lie. It's a lie. I don't believe it. Which part? Making an ad for everybody and taking 10%. It's not true. Once he starts and he starts seeing
Starting point is 02:03:39 how much it costs or how much it could make, he's not going to only take 10%. It's possible. Maybe not.% it's possible no maybe not it's all possible maybe not maybe there's no other person brand or company that's taking 10% but if I'm just gonna get you to sign up well didn't say that then let's keep this then let's say I'm saying how many companies do this all the one year free trial maybe the first million people to sign up maybe maybe for the first year I'm only taking this but I'm saying stuff to get you to sign up or maybe the first million people to sign up. Maybe for the first year I'm only taking this
Starting point is 02:04:08 but there's going to be some like stop. Just don't lie to niggas. Nigga, you're going to try to make money. That's why you're doing this. Man, everybody's lying to niggas.
Starting point is 02:04:15 Why am I? Not Joe. My dumb ass running around trying to tell the truth to niggas. I'm talking about on a company level
Starting point is 02:04:20 like this here. Like I said, you look at any, you go sign up for a new cell phone or a new cable provider. Yeah, I'm going to give you this bullshit up provider yeah i didn't expect tiger to lie to us too i never expect the people to lie to us like they'd be mad if they think i lied to them like i just don't expect people to lie i think that but whatever i think listen congratulations they wanted to go like public
Starting point is 02:04:38 or they were pursuing that avenue and when you start looking for the big investors and the big motherfuckers to put the bread down, they might not want to be associated with that type of content. You get what I'm saying? And I just think that they overvalue their position. I think that when the creators anywhere decide to band together and stop working, that's what happens.
Starting point is 02:04:57 There you go. That's where it all boils down. Hello, DJ Premier. Yeah. Any field. That's it right there. That makes sense. When they stop, it's over.
Starting point is 02:05:07 Probably we just won't stop. No, we won't be in together. Yeah, we won't do that. We won't do that. Porn industry. This is the equivalent of a strike. They're being together. Yeah, NFL.
Starting point is 02:05:14 No, it is a strike. It is a strike. It's a unionized, yo, check this out. We out. And I don't know that this necessarily fixes it. Because now that people know that this is what was on your mind. We don't want to fuck with y'all. Yeah, but the relationship is a little tainted.
Starting point is 02:05:28 Listen, I opened up OnlyFans even after this announcement. And there were several women in my feed saying, yo, October 1's my last day. Here's the bundle. $5, $7 for anything I ever put up here. I'm out. You can buy anything you want. I'm going to fuck out of here.
Starting point is 02:05:42 I'm not going to leave you dry. This is how you can find my shit from now on. Blah, blah. Niggas are making arrangements. They ain't playing with OnlyFans. For y'all to feel like it one day, not feel like it one day. Nigga, you support creators or not? Everybody say it until we get the baby verse and the Kanye out.
Starting point is 02:05:59 We got to see until it's time for Summer Jam to pop. Everybody say it. We're really supporting. But who really doing it but nobody? Nobody. Because it sound good, man. Yeah. Take the $9 bundle, 100,000 niggas buy your $9 bundle.
Starting point is 02:06:16 It's not 100 grand. And I'm out. Y'all can do whatever after that. I don't care. Yeah, that's a scary thing one day. Listen, you wake up one day and and your main source of income just decide to go a different route maybe you're not as important no more and as important anymore it's scary for people that made their living this way and that's
Starting point is 02:06:36 not just the sex work community no it's not a lot of the people made their money that's companies period bro, real talk. Back in my corporate days, bro, they called the entire office upstairs and said, yo, check this out. It was October. They was like, yo, December 1st, we shutting down. It's over.
Starting point is 02:06:56 That's it. This was a corporate job. This is how we stayed alive. Paid the bills and everything. You telling me in how long it's over? 45 days, nigga. It's over. Thank you to everyone for making your voices heard.
Starting point is 02:07:09 See, that's the problem. Stop. The fuck are you talking about? You knew their voices. Yeah. You knew their voices. Then they started using these fucking words. We heard the outpouring of the community.
Starting point is 02:07:23 No, you got to put the buzzwords in there. But stop. Got to put the buzzword in there. But stop. Got to put the buzzword in there. Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining. Just stop. Just say what's happening so creators know how to go about their business accordingly. Not we've heard the outcries.
Starting point is 02:07:37 You don't give a fuck about the outcries. You care about the bottom line. That's it. I agree. Which is a shame with all the money that you've made like there should be some level of and box yeah man yeah listen i've never we never heard another we never heard another update but boy i was glued to that story a little while ago when niggas followed the fashion over dude home from the club in la like nigga had a secret garage
Starting point is 02:08:02 or something they was right there on his tail shoot out his security shot back security got hit he lived and blah blah blah blah blah was glued to it one because that continues to happen in la so i mean it's interesting you got to keep up with it and two because who the fuck knows who the fashion over owner is yeah i don't i didn't know i didn't you ain't in la i never thought i know i ain't doing it but i never even thought about how much money he made how much money's in his house how much is in the safe how much he's fucking worth how much he has a million girls posting for him every day that's not anywhere close to the number that they should be getting whatever the case may be
Starting point is 02:08:40 that they should be getting a promo. Whatever the case may be. He turned that shit into music business. The girls is home begging to fucking be able to post some Fashion Nova shit
Starting point is 02:08:51 for $200 a week. $300 a week. I mean. They begging to give their services. Because now you're not rare. I'm sure. You're not rare no more.
Starting point is 02:09:03 I don't know, man. Well, I'm going to go get any little 22-year-old chick with a nice following and start posting your shit. Get your followers up. I'm not knocking it. Price is up. Everybody's price should be up, man. Don't get fooled by where we at.
Starting point is 02:09:17 Don't get fooled by the lack of people working in your local supermarket. Don't be fooled by. Yo, do y'all think music should go back to being released on Tuesdays? That's my question do y'all think music should go back to being released on tuesdays that's my question y'all answer that one before i ask the follow-up question which is should music release every week yes i think yes on every week but to the tuesday point i don't really care i just want the music as a consumer I don't care what day it drops Especially now Where I don't have to go to the store And get it
Starting point is 02:09:48 It's just there on my phone It don't matter It don't matter You don't care He's right Before I used to have to plan it I used to have to go to the store Because again
Starting point is 02:09:58 Now you don't physically have to Go out of your way to purchase it You get what I'm saying So If it drops on Monday, it drops on Thursday, who really gives a fuck? It's click. Mad other reasons to give a fuck. Yeah, you can buy it in your phone any day now,
Starting point is 02:10:12 whether that's Tuesday or Friday, but what happens when it drops Friday in your phone versus what happens when it drops Tuesday in your phone? Think about the news cycle and the news week now, right? Your weekend comes, everybody have fun monday comes you get remnants of people's weekend by tuesday people are off the weekends and now you get the real news cycle of things it's normally a bunch of bullshit
Starting point is 02:10:36 fucking dr dre day neighbor jones i'm stupid right you get a bunch of that wednesday comes everybody's in the work of their week the flow of their their week now we all just thinking about stress COVID Delta family it's just whatever by the time music drops on Friday we add our weekend that's our time we're listening to it as background noise it's not really the focus I would say if I had to guess for most people and then by Monday and Tuesday you say it's hot or it's not and then we repeat the cycle like the life expectancy of the song and the album which means the tour which means the merch which means everything the life expectancy is shorter if you shorten the fucking time of your life with the music and with music dropping on friday that goes back to my earlier point about djs not knowing how to dj anymore in new york
Starting point is 02:11:32 we don't even get to spend time with music so some of these younger djs niggas born in 98 96 whenever they was born they not spending time with this stuff they can't play the fucking uh g funk era they can't play uh andre herrell shit uptown shit they can't play the fucking G-Funk era. They can't play Andre Harrell shit, Uptown shit. They can't give you the Jodeci Total, the Bad Boy set,
Starting point is 02:11:49 the fucking Masterpiece set. They can't. We don't even have time with it. And they can't spend time with the new shit. Remember at the end of the party, the end of the kickback, end of the club,
Starting point is 02:11:59 all right, last call, some hard R&B was coming. The Mobb Deep 112, Hey Love, is coming on something something shit like that because we're in this microwavable era you think it's only affecting like one or two spots in music but music is energy so it just affects everywhere if the life expectancy is short on everything then why wouldn't you want to change that and when they changed the date from
Starting point is 02:12:23 tuesday to friday i ran around because I was mad about it. And I was asking, hey, dog, why they did that shit? I never really got a clear answer. The answer was, well, by music guidelines in the rest of the world, London and everybody else dropped on Friday. So now they're going to change it in unison with everybody dropping at the same time. It was only the US doing it on Tuesday. And it was it.
Starting point is 02:12:42 Bam. That does not. Makes sense to me. Not to me. It's not enough. I'm going to tell you why it no sense to me not to me it's not enough I'm gonna tell you why I'm gonna tell you again this is going back to albums dropping digitally digital so now if you drops over there in London three days before here my my albums out this is technically a leak considered to the United States at that point we're not dealing with the yo you gots to go be manufactured, pressed up.
Starting point is 02:13:05 I'm saying make it Tuesday everywhere. But now you talking about changing the entire world. I'm always talking about changing the entire world. I would think the Tuesdays. Make it Tuesday everywhere. Like you get to listen to it
Starting point is 02:13:17 throughout the duration of your week, driving to work, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You get it on Friday, it's the weekend. By the weekend, when your friends come, you know the songs you like.
Starting point is 02:13:23 You know the playlist. You're not checking nothing. It's not background music. You playing something, yo, hear this. You. It's the weekend. By the weekend, when your friends come, you know the songs you like. You know the playlist. You're not checking nothing. It's not background music. You're playing something. Yo, hear this. You have lived with the music. And if you live with the music, you're connected more. You're invested more.
Starting point is 02:13:32 It's playing more of a part in your life. That's why old niggas sound like we sound. Because the music back in the day, hey, it played a part in our life. Oh, shit, I fell on my ass, bumped my knee when this song was out public. It's attached to our lives. That ain't really happening today. No, not just that. It don't feel like it. song without public enemies like it's attached to our lives that ain't really happening today no not just that it don't it don't feel like it don't seem like it it don't feel like it and seem like it that's why niggas like if y'all got you cheap in the music you
Starting point is 02:13:53 cheap in the experience of music but also it's again it's it's this digital instant age we're not disagreeing i'm just talking to joe i'm saying it's a combination of things it's also that because i don't want to hear that shit it's the truth i a combination of things it's also that I don't wanna hear that shit it's the truth I know but these young niggas are don't tell me I don't wanna hear from
Starting point is 02:14:10 nothing without soul when your album dropped today it gotta have soul niggas is dropping a deluxe next week already I know but it should have soul that's what stopped me
Starting point is 02:14:18 from listening to Rod Wave's album I went to listen to it went to it it was 90 songs no no literally no 50 songs 40 songs I went to listen to it, went to it. It was 90 songs. No. No.
Starting point is 02:14:27 Literally? No, 50 songs, 40 songs, something like that. He did the thing. He did the thing where we're going to get this to streamline. We're going to do volume. I'm not that invested as an artist to listen to 90 songs from you. When Chris Brown do it, oh, God damn it. Don't sign me up.
Starting point is 02:14:41 Watch this. And I'm going to know the words to all 90 of them. I'm just saying. But those are the tricks that people are playing. Yeah, they got to play the game. They're just trying to figure out ways to get the music to mean more. They're doing everything but making the music mean more. I'm shutting up. Go ahead.
Starting point is 02:14:55 The game is the game, though. Go ahead. They got to play the game. Move on. What happened to Bayonne? The game should be just make dope shit. Glenn, Cleo Soul need to send a check. But making dope shit is not enough.
Starting point is 02:15:08 All week, nigga, everybody and they mother like, oh, Cleo Soul, I listen to both albums. That shit is amazing. Look, her shit is speaking for itself. I get it. You get what I'm saying? You don't got to trick the system. You don't got to do the algorithmic bullshit.
Starting point is 02:15:23 You don't got to tamper with this or try to trick. Tell that to the artist that that's the label 7.0 right now. But that's why she don't need to send a check. And I'm going to disagree with Savon and this. No, no, I'm joking. I know, Jimmy. You're speaking loosely. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 02:15:36 But that's why she don't. This shit speaks for itself. Right. That was good music. It found its way in the world. No, no, you thanking us. You thanking us. You blessing the world with good music.
Starting point is 02:15:44 It's our job to... That's everybody's job with good music, for it to just... That ain't because... We don't know her. No, at all. She could be an asshole. But that music is fire.
Starting point is 02:15:54 And we came in here and told y'all, and then energy. I seen more engagement than I seen in a million. Yeah, Cleo Tony. Adding to her, she ain't said a word. She ain't look for that. She ain't ask for that. But good music should do that.
Starting point is 02:16:05 It should do that. But again. I wish there was more people that made us come in here and want to jump up and, yo, y'all got to hear this. I wish it was more. Tell you the problem. But they not incentivized to do that. This is the music business. That's why.
Starting point is 02:16:20 But if you're an artist, I think it's a happy medium. but if you're an artist, I think it's a happy medium. Of course you want it to translate into financial benefits for you and your family, of course, but again, you still should have some dignity with regards to what you're putting out to the world. That's easy to say when you're an artist.
Starting point is 02:16:40 You're right, I'm not. With bills. You're right, I'm not. It's very easy to say. But you don't know that you didn't have dignity until hindsight in music. Because what happens is you go in a studio, you make some shit that you think might work.
Starting point is 02:16:51 It ain't really true to your core, but you think it might work, and you're trying to get something to work. So you put it out, and the people say, yo, dog, not only did that not work, that didn't sound so true to you. And three months later, you look back and say, yeah, I should have did that.
Starting point is 02:17:03 But in the moment, as an artist, you have to try your different shit. You got to try something you never did, something that might be whack. Hey, I'm going to put these pants on. I never did this. The fans might look at me as corny or whatever. You just have to. And if it fails, that's when you say, ah, I'm going to always do things that only feel good to me and not the fans. I'm going to stop doing things that might be a hit to them or an outfit
Starting point is 02:17:26 that they might think is fire or video that they're going to say is fire because the people that are saying it's fire, they're all going to tell me it's fire and I might not think it's fire in my core. And then I'm conflicted for the rest of my life. Shiny suits. For the rest of my life. Yeah, exactly. Shiny suits. This motherfucker Park's going to text
Starting point is 02:17:44 me just now. Yo, how's the pod going Everything cool That's Park That's Park What is wrong What is wrong Yeah
Starting point is 02:17:59 Yeah Yeah We do Without him Without his face His name His likeness Parks everything is good buddy You go ahead and enjoy New Orleans with your wife I couldn't be happier Yeah, yeah, we do. Without him, without his face, his name, his likeness.
Starting point is 02:18:07 Parks, everything is good, buddy. You go ahead and enjoy New Orleans with your wife. I couldn't be happier for you and prouder of you. You and your wife. Y'all have fun, man. We'll just stay here and slave, pod, and just give all our opinions about this rap shit that you would have been really needed for in the event that you cared, but you shouldn't care.
Starting point is 02:18:23 You shouldn't care. in the event that you cared, but you shouldn't care. You shouldn't care. Is there any other music stuff that we have to uncover? I don't think so. I'm cool. Yeah, I'm cool. I just want to drop the music. We'll listen to albums.
Starting point is 02:18:36 Albums drop. We didn't hear them all. We'll talk about them on Wednesday. Hopefully, Parks will be back on Wednesday. Maybe not because Tuesday is my actual birthday, and we're not recording on Tuesday. We'll do some Monday shit and see what happens, and I don't think Parks is back on Monday.
Starting point is 02:18:53 He just do what he want when you're popping, right? Yeah. Well, you got it. La, la, la, la. Uh-huh. That's why I don't listen when Parks be trying to say, oh, you're the boss. No, I'm not. You just take vacations when you want, and Parks be trying to say, oh, you're the boss. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 02:19:05 You just take vacations when you want. And then hit me saying, yo, it's cool. It's going all right over there. Stephen A takes Max Kellerman off of first take. So they say, Stephen A didn't say that. Disney didn't say that. Nobody else said that but the internet. But we know Stephen A took max off first take right
Starting point is 02:19:25 ice you take it away come on you got to do one of these topics i don't watch first take joe i don't know anything about this like i'm sorry i asked you before to give me some backstory i didn't was there beef between them like i don't know stephen a smith yeah you you watch this and max have been at least sound like you've been awake for more than an hour nigga I've been awake my voice just not yours
Starting point is 02:19:49 fam yo Steven A. Smith you don't always have your sexy voice on like that I'm not even trying to be any of that fam can I talk but don't be sexy
Starting point is 02:19:57 on a Steven topic I'm not trying to be sexy alright nigga that's your voice oh man this guy no they have been rumblings that they kind of have not been seeing eye to eye.
Starting point is 02:20:07 Okay. Like they said, basically, Max is purposely trying to be the antagonist to everything that he says. Allegedly. Right? That makes for a good show, though, no? No. You need... Depending on who the boss is.
Starting point is 02:20:19 No. So everybody... Like you said, no. They didn't start out like that, but they kind of... If your point is just to antagonize me and my point, then we ain't making a good show. Like skipping Shannon. That's their thing. Right.
Starting point is 02:20:32 Right? Like, I'm a big, like, kind of like partner interruption. It don't matter what side you take, I'm going to take the opposite side. Like, y'all two for a good. But we agree on certain stuff. I know, but these are great examples because even in the facsimile of debate, there's unison. There's camaraderie. Okay.
Starting point is 02:20:49 Michael Wilbon and- I forgot his name. And that's a shame because he's a legend. Peter- Kornheiser. Peter Kornheiser. Korn, yeah. That's fucked up.
Starting point is 02:20:58 But yeah, that's- Tony. Tony Kornheiser. Oh my God. Sue me. Horrible. But yeah, that's a debate, but oh my God. I can't wait. Yo, fam, next time, man. Yo, fam, partner in trust. Yo, you think I'm not pulling Horrible. But, yeah, that's a debate. But, oh, my God. Yo, fam, next time.
Starting point is 02:21:05 Yo, come on, Joe. Yo, you think I'm not pulling out the joke? Yo, Tony Kornheiser and Mike Wilbon. That's what I was talking about. Michael Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser. It looks like debate, but they get along. Shannon and Skip, it looks like debate, but they get along. They have pre-production.
Starting point is 02:21:21 All the debate shows have pre-production, and we get along, and we kind of know what's going on. I know take you know mine and we'll do that max and molly it's not just max it's max and molly who's married to jaylen rose for about a year and a half i've been waiting for jaylen rose to pull up to stephen a smith and punch him in the face but you just know your wife goes home, you talk about the stresses of work. Molly, in the last year and a half, has gotten really educated on sports matters. Yeah, she used to be chillin'.
Starting point is 02:21:53 And at the end of the topic, she'll throw in some shit her and Jalen talked about at the end of the night. And then Stephen might provide some pushback, and then she's the moderator. So she's like, no, no, no, no, no, we gotta go to break, but let me get this off. Stephen, no, wait, I'm a woman, I'm an outstock we saw the same thing on uh the call
Starting point is 02:22:08 one of them show was that i think it was oh and skip skip and shannon the moderator she was like yo dog hate your fucking jerry jones take about mike mccarthy being too overweight to coach i don't care that this is your show i don't't care that you get paid five, seven, ten million a year. I'm a woman. I got a voice. I don't like your take. I'm the moderator. Nigga, shut up.
Starting point is 02:22:30 That's what happened. Okay. And Skip sat there and sat there. What could you say? None. But what he thought, what he thought, what he thought was, do what the fuck I want on my show. This whole show exists because of me. Shannon's here because of me. This set is like this because of me. show this whole show exists because of me
Starting point is 02:22:45 Shannon's here because of me this set is like this because of me the topics are like this because of me our pre-production is like this because of me
Starting point is 02:22:51 and Fox is probably a sports channel now because I decided to leave ESPN I can't say nothing now because I respect you I'm fucking 70
Starting point is 02:22:59 60 years old but you're wrong it's my shit same with Steve no different where do you think you learned it from sure what do you think you learned it from that's a good one do you think Steve would behave anywhere near the way he's been behaving if he were across from Skip no because that was
Starting point is 02:23:17 Skip's show even though Steve was the man even though we may have felt like Steve was a lot better some of us some people even though Steve was of the culture even though Steve was the man even though we may have felt like steve was a lot better some of us some people even though steve was of the culture even though steve was the person that you see espn grooming cold pizza is mine cold pizza not first take the reimagination of cold pizza this is mine when i went to do first take alex bowled mine. When I went to do first take, I'll expose some shit. When I went to do first take, whatever year that was, after the show, Stephen was there, and it was a great show. And after the show, he wasn't a main host. And he said, yo, don't say nothing.
Starting point is 02:23:57 Don't tell nobody. This is still in the works. They thinking about, this is after they fired Steve. They fired him. Too controversial. Then he came back, popped up. He was like, don't tell nobody. They think about bringing me back. Let me do first take with Skip, my guy. Like they talking about it right now. It could be big. I said, oh, shit. If that happens, you and Skip every day. Wow.
Starting point is 02:24:26 And then he got the gig. And when he got the gig, almost at the end of every show, he sung Skip's praises. It don't matter if he won the argument. He still said, ah, Skip, this is your world. This is your show. You invited me here. You invited me here. Remember the shit I used to say about Fab?
Starting point is 02:24:40 Y'all would never diss Fab. He could do whatever you want to me. Know why? He invited me here, kind of. Like, when I needed a feature, he popped up. He didn't have to. He was popping. I wasn't.
Starting point is 02:24:48 It's like a respect thing. Same thing here. Steve made it a point to say that. Then Steve got his raise. Skip left, got his raise. Then everybody left ESPN. And when I say everybody, I mean everybody. I won't go down the list of names. And Steve was clearly the man.
Starting point is 02:25:02 Enter Max. I like Max. Max, from day one, offered strong pushback to Steve. And as time progressed, the pushback got stronger in areas that they shouldn't have been stronger in. Max should have been never telling Steve what happens in basketball. And Steve wouldn't tell Max what happens in boxing. But way too many times, especially when black people kept getting killed, Max was going up their body and shit.
Starting point is 02:25:32 In a good way sometimes, too. Not at the expense of my people maybe saying I'm Conan. Because that's what the street. That is what. No, no, no. That's what happened. No, that's what happened. So, but again. It was to the point. I'm talking. I'm over a year ago. No, no, no, that's what happened. No, that's what happened. So, but again.
Starting point is 02:25:48 It was to the point, I'm talking, I'm over a year ago. No, you're right. I'm talking over a year ago when Steve would come on and say, hey, Max gives really good takes on these black matters. I see that y'all appreciate it. I also appreciate it from him, But I'm a black man. My view. That happened. No, that can't keep happening on my show.
Starting point is 02:26:16 I get it. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. That won't. Sometimes, right or wrong, you got to shut the fuck up. The end. You got to play the fuck up. The end. You got to play ball. This is Steve's show. It's a show.
Starting point is 02:26:30 It's true. It's a show. But let me ask you this. Do you think that as the boss, right? See, this is my personal thing. I don't give a fuck if some of my employees are better than me. They're still my employees. So I'm going to profit. I'm going to eat based on their of my employees are better than me. They still my employees. So I'm going to profit.
Starting point is 02:26:45 I'm going to eat based on their work. Right? That's me. Everybody else don't feel that way. You get what I'm saying? Like, what is it? 48 laws. Never outshine a master.
Starting point is 02:26:56 That's rule number one. I don't really subscribe to that because I look at it like, dog, if you work for me and you killing them, you elevating me. But everybody don't look at it like that. You work for me and you killing him you elevating me but everybody don't look at it like that you know what happens sometimes ish and i'll give an example there would be times on the old version of this podcast where i would come in and say something and i would say it because I spoke to everyone involved. And because those things didn't come to fruition yet, it might be hard for someone else to see why that's being said. And then you offer pushback. So a lot of times I used to say something that I was saying for fact. I just couldn't say I was saying it for fact. Like Steve and they often will say, oh, during the break, such and such, a coach called me.
Starting point is 02:27:48 This person called me. This is the breaking news here. Let me give you what's really happening. If y'all want to know why Steve and A gets paid more than everybody else up there, that is why. He got rapport. It's because... His access.
Starting point is 02:27:59 He has rapport. Rapport, he's got access, he's got availability. He's on every fucking show. It's in sacrifice of his personal life. You don't hear much about kids, wife, girlfriend. You just don't. He's work. He works.
Starting point is 02:28:11 He works. When you're that person, you know what's really important? Your credibility. Indeed. That's why Wolge. It's the most important thing. He used to be the most credible cat. And Wolge just came out of nowhere and kind of took it from him in the NBA.
Starting point is 02:28:25 cat and wold just came out of nowhere and kind of took it from him in the nba but stephen a smith used to be the underground black dude that had was that was in with all of the black athletes and and wold just came out of nowhere and took that so now let's bring it up stephen a comes here's an example i'm just freestyling it's off the top stephen a comes and on multiple broadcasts he'll say hey mark jackson should have a coaching job he's saying that because he spoke to mark jackson right he spoke to teams he's spoken to players he's spoken to the warriors brass he knows why he don't have a job he knows the real reason he knows the reason we don't know i know it too i know we know it but he'll say mark jackson should have a job. I am against all these coaches being hired, and Mark Jackson is not being hired.
Starting point is 02:29:11 You know what Max will do? Shit on that whole thing. No. Well, why should he be? Okay. Why would he be? He didn't do a great job when he was there. They hired a white coach.
Starting point is 02:29:25 He totally outperformed them, took them to a 73 win he'll do that knowing that my take is based off of some real shit that i know yo i'm paid here because i talked to everybody i'm telling you something that i know i'm breaking news here without the little breaking news sticker on the side that's why this is my show i'm not debating this with you and you're gonna make me say yo i spoke to fucking pat riley you're gonna make me say yo jimmy butler sat in my house you're gonna make me say something that spoke to fucking Pat Riley you gonna make me say yo Jimmy Butler sat in my house you gonna make me say something that I shouldn't say here I get it because you just making a point that's gonna be correct to the entire audience it's gonna be right whatever you say is gonna be right yo Steve Kerr did come and make them a 73 win team added some players they had a great
Starting point is 02:29:58 draft that's right so so I spoke to somebody and I'm'm this is what's happened it's a consensus in the league Mark Jackson should have a job and that and that that has happened too much over the last year and a half and I watch it every morning I watch it every morning between them two it get heated they cut the commercial break fast sometimes they leave it on you still hear Molly talking when they think they on commercial break you You see Max start sweating. He starts saying shit real stupid when Steve got him under pressure. When Steve got his homeboys there,
Starting point is 02:30:31 the big nigga that used to play football, the big black guy, I don't remember his name. Some of the other niggas. When Steve got his dudes there, they all jump Max. They all come in and say, Max, shut the fuck up. You don't know shit about shit. Shut up, nigga. He can go get another check, though. Well, from ESPN,
Starting point is 02:30:49 he's not fired from ESPN. He just took them off the shelf. They're just doing a reshuffle. They're doing a reshuffle. They said they might be bringing in Michael Irvin. That's the... Michael Wilpon and fuck... They're doing a reshuffle.
Starting point is 02:31:01 They're doing a reshuffle. Live, in real time. A lot of people are doing those live, in real time reshuffles without consumers really knowing. They just announcing it here. And that'll be a great show, but let me tell you something. The greatest basketball show to exist, y'all know
Starting point is 02:31:16 what it is. Boy. TNT. It's almost the best show to exist, period. there's not a better show than that that's the bar for blacks
Starting point is 02:31:28 for blacks I'm not talking about your world for blacks that's the show that's the best show best pod sports best personalities
Starting point is 02:31:36 they're all a hall of famers they all won awards Ernie Johnson's the man they all a man that's the show if you putting Magic Johnson Mike Wilpon and Steve together
Starting point is 02:31:44 you make me think of that show You missing an Ernie Y'all don't have an Ernie You need an Ernie You need an Ernie You need an Ernie You need an Ernie Yeah you do
Starting point is 02:31:52 You need an Ernie You definitely need an Ernie Plenty of times Plenty of times Kenny, Shaq and Charles Be up there sounding Real fucking blubber mouth Like people are not watching
Starting point is 02:32:00 Until you need Ernie Who is in the Hall of Fame With broadcasting He's the glue He's the glue He's the glue. He's the glue. He's the best glue. Hey, why are we on ESPN?
Starting point is 02:32:09 If you watch Get Up in the morning, it's plenty of times where all those personalities just start sounding a mess. And Greeny smoothly ends that. He does. Hey, I'm a Jet fan. I wish that was a little different, but now I'm moving on to this next. Like, you didn't even notice. Stars can be in a wreck.
Starting point is 02:32:31 But that's the real journalism. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the real journalism. Like, so look, let me give you some flowers. Finally, a flower. Bitch, I'll give you flowers. Shut up, man. Yeah, but like a daisy.
Starting point is 02:32:40 Something whack. A whack little flower. Like, everybody thinks podcasting is easy right everybody that is true they do think they just think you really just sitting up here talking that is true it's not as simple as that and we try to say it every week so we're gonna no we're gonna give an example last week we did parks as well right and i went back and i listened to it and the that you did with the wedding made niggas feel like they was there. Like people was like, yo, I felt like I was there
Starting point is 02:33:11 or I felt like I missed something at the wedding. Like I wanted to be there. I don't even know parks. I want to just be there to get the vibe and just to, because you put them on top of the mountain and Elmira and all of that other shit like that's a skill so what Ernie and him bring Charles is the fun Charles and Shaq and the blunt be clear and the blunt Charles and Shaq are the ignorant funny motherfuckers on the show Kenny Smith is a little of the analytics and then Ernie just ties it all in together right so you could be the Ernie because what you do, well, you're a little bit all on, but what you do on the show, I couldn't do. I don't think Ice could do.
Starting point is 02:33:51 I'll tell you, Ice can't do. So again, that storytelling, all of that shit, that shit is hard and it's not easy. Your little dumbass Optimus Prime voice, all of that shit is funny. No, all of that shit adds to to the whole thing like you get what I'm saying so again we watching Charles and them
Starting point is 02:34:08 we just think any three Hall of Famers can get up there what magic Steve and Mike Wilbaum won't have they won't have an Ernie
Starting point is 02:34:16 well Steve could be the I mean what you gonna call is the Ernie cause he's a real journalist right they don't have the comedic part
Starting point is 02:34:24 and the and the Charles and the Sha't have the comedic part and the Charles and the Shaq make the comedic part magic is not as funny as them Mike Wilbaum is not gonna be funny like them the humor adds to that show if you needed more proof that what it's just saying is correct there's been a lot of attempts that are up in smoke podcast it ain't but one it ain't but one all the smoke't but one. All the small. All the small, I'm sorry. But that's the thing. Matt and Steve shit.
Starting point is 02:34:49 Yeah. There are a lot of other twosome sports stars that were teammates that are talking together. What you gonna call it? They have good interviews. Old guests.
Starting point is 02:35:00 Knuckleheads. What is a knucklehead? There's a few of them. Quentin Richardson got one. Knuckleheads. There's a few of them out there. But got one. Knuckleheads, man. There's a few of them out there. But them niggas came and turned it up. But it's only one of
Starting point is 02:35:09 those. Those, right? Listen, man, congratulations to Steve and Max. Max on a new journey. Embarking on one Steve on the same. Like, I'm anxious to see how this pans out. And I do hope ESPN gets it together i do
Starting point is 02:35:26 because it's been the last five six seven years of me watching like really really prominent journalists and just voices and personalities just leave and and it not be like a big deal like it not be said they just tweet such a hey moving on. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, dog. I spent my morning with you for 10 years. But no, they got a conglomerate. Michael Smith, no, no, you don't. You, Jamel, fucking homeboy. It's too many names.
Starting point is 02:35:53 It's too many names of people that have bounced. Black, white, like they've been going through a rebuild. And the Rachel Nichols news, let's get to it. Rachel Nichols says, got to create a whole show and spend five years hanging out with some of my favorite people. Talking about one of my favorite things, basketball. An eternal thank you to our amazing producers and crew. The jump was never built to last forever, but it sure was fun. More to come. See. This is so let me try to talk fast.
Starting point is 02:36:28 this is so let me try to talk fast this is so nuanced because depending on how you want to approach this is how you could approach it one way is let's do the surface way the raceway because she had a back and forth with uh maria uh maria taylor they announced maria maria taylor didn't renew her uh contract and that was announced and we never heard nothing else about rachel nichols and now we do. They pulled not only Rachel Nichols off the show that whole fucking crew off that show. Hey,
Starting point is 02:36:49 when that show came on and that Maria Taylor shit was going on y'all did what y'all supposed to do. Rep for your co-hosts. You were supposed to. And all of y'all
Starting point is 02:37:02 was supposed to get canned. See, I look at that differently. The whole show should have been canned canned. See, I look at that differently. The whole show should have been canned. See, and I look at it differently. Throw the whole show away. When one thing is compromised, if our main host, if our host, not our other ancillary pieces,
Starting point is 02:37:16 if our host is compromised, we have to just reassess. And if we reassess, if I can get Magic Johnson, Mike Wilpon, and Stephen A to do a basketball show, then I'm sorry to jump. You have to go. That's one. Two, that story sent ripples through the NBA. So now you got an NBA show
Starting point is 02:37:40 where the NBA players won't fuck with you? I don't know if anybody else is looking at their phone. Taylor Rook's going up and up and up. Anybody watching? That Draymond Green, Kevin Durant interview, that was on Bleacher Report, right? It's like five million the first week. Bleacher Report, if y'all don't know the word
Starting point is 02:38:00 on Bleacher Report, a lot of money. A lot of money and they spending it on content. They spent so much of it that ESPN has to acknowledge them. You see it now? That wasn't happening before. Are y'all watching closely? No, see, but- Taylor Rooks, black girl on Bleacher Report. I was going to ask- Cool with every artist, not artist, athlete. Athlete.
Starting point is 02:38:20 Hey, Saquon over here, him over here, her over there. Hey, I'm at the WNBA game. Hey, Saquon over here, him over here, her over there. Hey, I'm at the WNBA game. Hey, yesterday morning I saw a Taylor Rooks post about a scrimmage, a star-studded scrimmage with 2 Chainz and Mello and Trey Young and so forth. And I said to myself, I would have never known about this if Taylor Rooks didn't say that this was happening. Hey, Taylor Rooks, I don't know when your contract is up, baby. Joe Bud Network is hiring. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:38:45 She's ascended that. I've tried to hire Taylor. It's a joke. No, but it's not because I tried to hire her before. I tried to hire her. She had shit going on with Bleacher Report. I said, hey, you can have two things going on. Didn't work out.
Starting point is 02:38:57 But anybody could look at Taylor a few years ago and kind of see where this was going to go if you believe in black women. You thought the athletes didn't want to talk to her. Hey boy, was he wrong? Hey, but my point is you could do this the race way,
Starting point is 02:39:17 which is one way or do I want to hear niggas talk about rap? They never rapped today. I don't know. Do I want to hear niggas talk about rap today that aren't like deep in rap today? You don't have to have done it because that's unfair. But boy, you better live that shit. Nigga, you better been outside when KRS was there. You better be able to dance around.
Starting point is 02:39:44 Hey, what happened when Illmatic came out? You better be able to dance around Hey What happened when Illmatic came out You better be able to say it So we gone That was the last five years That was 2015 That was when I killed you 2015 2020
Starting point is 02:39:52 I fucked the whole game up Hey all you niggas That don't know nothing about What you talking about You can't talk no more It's me and Nore You have to have done it It's Michael Irvin
Starting point is 02:40:01 Chris Carter You gotta have been outside So Rachel Nichols, yes, race. Yeah, it was foul. Yeah, Maria. Yeah, the audio leaked. And yeah, yeah, yeah. But on our basketball show, if I'm competing with the other basketball show, I probably need some stars or some people that did it, right?
Starting point is 02:40:22 Rachel Nichols and Richard Jefferson wasn't gonna get it done let me ask you this Rachel Nichols Paul Pierce saying a bunch of stupid shit up there wasn't gonna get it done no it wasn't but Paul Pierce got a real big move coming I wonder when they're gonna announce it I should call and check on that go ahead I think me personally um with regards to ESPN they just got it locked? And I think they're getting arrogant. Like, yo, you just said, yo, I've been watching this shit for 10 years. And you're going to continue to watch regardless of who the hosts are.
Starting point is 02:40:51 I flick back and forth now. Between what and what? FS1. So much so that now... Look, look, look. It's a huge market share difference, though. Like, huge. I'm looking at the TV and I can tell you it's huge.
Starting point is 02:41:08 But the thing is, FS1 was like title when Skip's show started. It was title in the front. It was like, oh, yeah, they gave Skip five million. He went over there, but ain't nobody fucking. We ain't not leaving ESPN. We're not leaving first take for that. And FS1 was like, yo, we don't need all y'all to do that. I need this many of y'all
Starting point is 02:41:25 to come over here for Skip and I'm gonna build my audience hey on the way here y'all was laughing y'all saying yo you know Spotify got a whole algorithm if you like the Joe Budden podcast then you'll like these and I said yeah because we up against algorithms not people yeah you said that it's the same it's the same fucking shit here so yeah Skip uh damn what was I saying what was I saying just now something important cause I said you gonna watch ESPN
Starting point is 02:41:48 oh so now I go back and forth hey on the radio when I worked at the radio they had this stat called TSL which was time spent listening mhm yeah it's cool
Starting point is 02:41:57 that you listen to us and then you flick down the dial but when you flick down the dial that affects our TSL mhm TV got the same shit ESPN is looking at shit saying oh oh, shit, 20 minutes in, these niggas turn the channel FS1.
Starting point is 02:42:10 Hey, then they turn back. That's awesome they turn back. But they don't like them turning away. So that's where this is. You are competing. A few weeks ago, I came in here and said, if you stream, you're competing with the streamers. It don't matter what you're doing.
Starting point is 02:42:29 Music is competing with the release of the next big x-men movie which is competing with candy man which has been competing with what else streams this pod which is competing with this show that's now potting over here which is competing with nick's cannon nick cannon's daytime show hey and that's competing with the mad singer the Masked Singer is competing with their sister show, which is now AI. Stop. Are you looking at what's happening? The Masked Singer said, hey, we got 10 million of y'all to watch from eight to nine. It's working. You're dancing. You dance with the stars. Let's send some cartoons out there. Let's have regular people just dance from behind the scenes. Just simulate something.
Starting point is 02:43:07 Put a cartoon in front, and now you'll judge the cartoon. What's the name of that fucking show? It's not out yet, so I don't know. But boy, are they promoting it. Know why they have the budget to promote it like that? Because Mad Singer's a fucking smash already. And guess what we're doing? Competing with it.
Starting point is 02:43:20 Don't you be confused. We are all in competition, which is why everybody looks like a nut. That's why everybody bugging the fuck out. And that's why Steve, who killed Kevin Durant for going to the Warriors, is trying to link up with Magic Johnson and Michael Wilbur. He might have killed him for going to the Nets. Guess what, nigga? No.
Starting point is 02:43:44 He laid a blueprint. They laid the blueprint. You need a big three. You need something big to cut through the noise. It ain't going to be Rachel Nichols and them. It ain't going to be Paul Pierce.
Starting point is 02:43:55 It ain't going... You need something big to cut through. The end. I'm shutting up. I don't think this works. Me personally. It'll work for ESPN.
Starting point is 02:44:05 It might not work for culturally, but for ESPN. For their goal. They'll continue. For what they needed to do. They'll fund it for two, three years. Yeah, they'll do that. They'll fund it. They won't pull the plug on these three.
Starting point is 02:44:15 These three are gods. Magic Johnson, Mike Wilpon, and Steve. I think nobody thought when you threw Kenny Smith, Charles Barkley, and Shaquille O'Neal in the same room, you were going to get that magic. I don't think that was predetermined. I think that just worked. I think, again, Charles Barkley don't mind. He don't give a fuck what he says.
Starting point is 02:44:36 Shaquille O'Neal is about 80% with the shits. Right? And then Kenny is just... See, but even what you're saying and I'll leave this you could be right maybe it just happened by happenstance but when people are that great and the network is that great they can make it look like it just happened like that that's true like I don't believe that TNT I think TNT is great TNT's Ted Turner yes yeah they've been there for a little while I think they for a little while. I think they know what they're doing.
Starting point is 02:45:05 I think they know what they're doing. Charles Barkley been Charles Barkley since 79 with his mouth. Almost like early in my rap career when I said, yo, I'm going to do broadcasting. I'm just going to say some shit. Niggas knew I was just going to say some shit. Charles Barkley, same thing. You knew the mic in front of him is that. He ain't never going to change.
Starting point is 02:45:22 They know it so much that they support him. He'll diss anything. White people, your favorite food, a Jewish person, and they not budging. That tells you his support. They know what's going on with him. Shaq is in business with America. The whole America. TNT might have been last to that party.
Starting point is 02:45:38 They knew that was a hefty check. And Kenny Smith got a cat coaching job from everywhere. I don't have to be here. I'm here because it's more fun than coaching. Indeed. But TNT, I think, should have. I could be off. They should have known.
Starting point is 02:45:52 Because look at the set. You know what they always tell you? The set and the desk. That will always tell you what the company thought. It wasn't always that? No, it wasn't always the set. That shit has transformed considerably. It was always a nice desk.
Starting point is 02:46:04 The desk upgraded. The big TV in the back, the set. They went has transformed considerably. It was always a nice desk. The desk upgraded. The big TV in the back, the set, they went to Atlanta and they flushed it out. But always, that desk was always a fucking five,
Starting point is 02:46:13 six figure desk. I believe that. Yeah, you got a seven foot nigga to here. I know, but I didn't know that until I started
Starting point is 02:46:19 trying to buy a desk. Oh. Unless you try to, look at the desk. It's Ted Turner. Oh my God. That's one, two, my god that's one two three four five six seven eight nine this is a 22 foot desk illuminating in the front the brand yeah look the squares it's lighting up the tv in the back niggas ain't close no this yeah at all before social distance before social distancing yo congratulations
Starting point is 02:46:45 I love this show man I would love to go on this show I don't know what I would do but I want to be on this show of course this is the show yeah now that's
Starting point is 02:46:52 this is the show we've been talking forever three hours I've been talking forever I'm not talking no more I'm done you said that for three hours I know and Ice didn't want to talk about nothing
Starting point is 02:47:01 what are you talking about the whole part on the way here the time I tried to talk I couldn't talk I'm coming in to fight you every time I tried to talk I couldn't talk how many about nothing. What are you talking about? The whole pod on the way here, I told Ice, yo. I couldn't talk. I'm coming in to fight you. Every time I tried to talk, I couldn't talk. How many times I said I'm shutting up? I literally said, I raised my hand like we was in kindergarten and still couldn't talk.
Starting point is 02:47:14 You grabbed the mic back. What are you doing? So I said, all right, let him talk. Saved me the headache today. Yo, this guy. Now you want to look at your phone. Now he pushes the mic away. Yo, this guy is crazy.'re going to look at him. Now he pushes the mic away. Yo, this guy is crazy.
Starting point is 02:47:27 After we're topiced out. Hey, man. Yo, what other topics you have? None. We out. It's over. Play a good white song. It's over now.
Starting point is 02:47:36 Sleeper. Okay. What's this shit? It's a good white song I was thinking about. It is over. Hey, mic, mic, mic, mic, mic, mic, mic. my all right y'all find your sleepers i got mine already oh aren't you mr prepared damn listen the lux dropped aren't you the most prepared guy in the world it's the end of the summer about three weeks left.
Starting point is 02:48:06 That means that some of you out there that went through early breakups, early breakups in the summer, you watched the love of your life hoe around all summer. That gotta hurt. What? You did. Yeah, you did. It hurt. You hurt.
Starting point is 02:48:21 She used to make the Rasta pasta for you. Now you see old boy posting the Rasta pasta. Hey, you tried to play strong at first. You tried to play it smooth and coy in June, early July. Fuck that bitch. You don't need her. Your phone was ringing. The girls that you liked for the last year was on your line.
Starting point is 02:48:45 Yo. You was like, hey. But then late July, early August came. The girls slowed down and went to Greece. They traveled. They in Spain, right? They started spending time with they man. Hate that.
Starting point is 02:49:01 Right? They told you they had no man. Now they flying around with their man. You trying to get up, yo, W-Y-D? Red. Nobody's hitting you back, yes, red. They read it. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 02:49:12 They read it, you double texting them. Yeah, you seen it? Seen what I said? That's like so stupid, y'all. You going out at night, clubs, hookah bar, bowling, everywhere, looking for a solid substitute of replacement for that love of your life. You don't need to love, you just need to have some fun. Just bring the good times back. Remind you what happiness is like. You can't
Starting point is 02:49:39 find her. You go on Instagram, the love of your life ain't dead yet She ain't dying She's still alive You still got a shot My sleep is for y'all man My sleep is for the guys out there You can play this record These niggas feel what I'm saying
Starting point is 02:50:02 My sleep is for the guys out there That at the end of the summer You can play this record. These niggas feel what I'm saying. Sleepers for the guys out there that at the end of the summer, you realize you do anything for the person you love. You call up. She don't even answer. You call like 99 times, she finally answer. You a sucker, so you tell her meet you somewhere so y'all could talk somewhere beautiful It's for y'all man we here
Starting point is 02:50:51 KC man turn this shit up what the fuck is going on From dusk till dawn To a place where we belong Yeah, your body is calling me There ain't no sunshine, no sunshine Where I was before But I found the love that once in your arms Won't you come closer You love her, you do Letting it all over Now your body needs her body close to yours
Starting point is 02:51:37 I don't need anything She ain't coming to your house, you had bitches in there You don't have to pay It's villa time now, baby But you love her, you gotta get the villa When I saw her in my dream Never thought it meant a thing The moon looks so much fuller tonight for some reason, it's crazy It's crazy, man, but you're in love It meant a thing To a child and touched her skin
Starting point is 02:52:09 When she smiles, my knees go weak There ain't no sunshine No sunshine Where love was before No sunshine, still think about you sometimes A new girl with your same perfume, but not like you But I found the love, the warmth in your arms Alright, so what you gon' do is when she finally answer the phone You gon' tell her meet you somewhere in a villa somewhere In another state, in another country
Starting point is 02:52:48 You gon' drop all your plans, you gon' fly out there And you gon' do what you gotta do Oh my god They don't feel me They don't feel me yet I only want you If there is a next time If there is a next time If there is a next time
Starting point is 02:53:23 Leave me somewhere Oh, no Oh, no Y'all mean meet me in Hawaii, Greece, Spain or something like that I'm still down Leave me alone I'm still down Leave me alone I'm still down Damn, damn, leave me in your arms
Starting point is 02:53:47 Damn, damn, watch out, leave me in your arms I see you there, leave me in your arms Damn, damn, yeah I'm standing I'm standing Oh, you're being mean You're standing I'm standing I'm standing
Starting point is 02:54:20 I'm standing I'm standing I'm still damn, damn, damn, damn, damn Meet me in Amsterdam Meet me in Amsterdam Meet me in Amsterdam I got y'all. I got y'all. I got y'all. No, he wanted her back. Anytime you tell him meet you in Amsterdam, why would you tell him meet you there at the red light district? You could fuck anybody there, nigga.
Starting point is 02:55:10 She got to wait. She got to meet me somewhere else. But I guess that drives the point, meet me in Amsterdam, man. Just to show you. I'm still only about you. Yeah, no, it's true. Shout out to all the fellas, man, that have been there before.
Starting point is 02:55:27 We all been there. Oh, man. All right. I'm up next, I guess. And that nigga was Asian. Could you believe that? Yo. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:55:38 With that type of sauce? This guy is nuts, man. All right, I'm playing something off of a- One of the tall Asians, too. Look. Yo. You good? I'm not something off of- One of the tall Asians, too. Look. Yo. You good? I'm not talking no more.
Starting point is 02:55:48 You kidding me? Playing something off of 42 Doug's deluxe album. My birthday coming. Uh-oh. Couple more days till 41, Doug. You better not, though. I'm telling you something. Hey, it ain't but a couple more days till 41, Doug.
Starting point is 02:56:04 You better not, though. Is there a 41, Doug? No. I'm telling you something. I'm it. I'm him. I'm him. He is I, and I am him.
Starting point is 02:56:15 Oh, man. This is what we call freshman of the year. Run that back turbo. Fuck my own nigga's turbo. You're dead. I was. Chill about it. Yeah. Yeah, I'll get back on with you, bitch Yeah, magazine drop, I'm back, bitch Freshman of the year, no cap, bitch Play with one of us, get wack, bitch Yeah, still in shit in town, he a lil' nigga Doug nigga All on six mile with a big pile, yeah
Starting point is 02:57:00 Who the opps, sister my bitch now Yeah, you can't find one for cheaper price No hat, nigga Just bought five of them for like three a pint That's facts, nigga I got tape with me, keep Dre with me Money, plus my credit score like I ain't 50 Dummy, don't you move, bitch, with that band, huh? Yeah, tell my new bitch, pull that ass out
Starting point is 02:57:25 Niggas, got like three-five in the stash, ho That bang, huh? Bitch, I'm still Mr. Walk-His-Ass, down Fuck em' Oh, you mad about your little mans, huh? Fuck em' Caught his young ass with his pants down Bust em'
Starting point is 02:57:41 He has 10 of them, my friends, nah So trust me Bitch, my next spot spot putin' grips down Kentucky, y'all forgot I had that Richard, bitch Yeah, even my old hoes gettin' richer, bitch Yeah, too much money now I can't keep up, ho In the Maybach with my feet up, ho Magazine drop, I'm back, bitch Freshman of the year, no cap, bitch Play with one of us, get whack, bitch
Starting point is 02:58:13 Still in the hood, getting active Yeah, that was Freshman of the Year off of 42 Dugs, Freedom Boys, Freedom Dug, Freedom Boys Deluxe Edition. All right, I got Ish's record as well. Use your iPhone product. Come on, fam. I know you got it, fam.
Starting point is 02:58:40 You know I have the record. This is called Sharing Locations. It's by Meek Mill featuring Lil Baby and Lil Durk. I got a little beef with her, I call her gang, she don't play with that bae shit I be fuckin' this NBA, nigga, bitches, you know I ain't never wanna say shit New contract, be like I play baller, boy, ain't nothing to play with I told her, pull up, she told me she can't, her nigga be sharing location I was ridin' in the Ghost with a ghost gun, seen you ride with your kids, so you're one And my man in the can, while you takin' out your trash, you gon' pop with the Mack like Don't Run
Starting point is 02:59:22 Hey, boy, kid, I'll get how you ever had him frozen It's too much cash to leave the hat, I had to get a little gross on I fuck around from time to time, I don't show no emotion But when he died, he had them racks, he had the maker go for him I hang with the hillocks who train the killers Who send all the niggas on store runs I got me a check and I brought me a cat And I went on the block and they done us
Starting point is 02:59:42 I hang with all the murderers I'm payin' all the lawyers for the murderers I'm putting all my guns on the murderers You don't wanna see me with the murderers Yeah, close words swerving, famous bitch curving Seen you out in traffic, you was looking nervous Branded up on that shit, then they thought it was on purpose I know for a fact I'm blastin' mine, I never get too worried Hunnid rats and hunnids, still like curses, rappers sellin' verses One time I lied to sound my song, I ain't gon' buy no burger Homicide on my man when I slide, I ain't tryna see no hurt
Starting point is 03:00:17 He ain't even die, bout a gun, took a fake pill, nigga, that don't perk Sure look perfect Pussy was ready, go get in some places My diamonds be here like the intervices We stickin' together, this shit in a case of a fucking with that girl I'm in these niggas with the voice in the hair All these niggas is weddles, ain't going this hard I'm from the P, that's K, all these nigg the matterers You don't wanna see me with the matterers Yeah, that was sharing locations. Meek Mill, Lil Baby, and Lil Durk. All righty then. Still on White Soul. Come on, man. Alrighty then. Still on White Soul.
Starting point is 03:01:26 Come on, man. Come on. Sound like funeral music for some of the guys out there who will die, who will live this decade. Kind of dark. Little baby going to keep partying with James Harden. Y'all going to have to fight. That nigga Roddy Ricch is chilling somewhere. He's chilling. You just got to fight now. nigga Roddy Rich is chillin' somewhere. He's chillin'. You just gotta fight now. Can't run from it. And I'm waitin' for it. I wanna see a fight. I wanna see a fight.
Starting point is 03:01:55 Don't make me be immature here. You don't have to. Yeah. Fuck it. Really good pod today, man Oh, hey Bitch, you know this song, man You know what this is You know what this did out there Do you? Like, you always take everything as offense I'm never trying to, like, offense you
Starting point is 03:02:19 Offense you Oh, the other song? I know the first one I know the second one Come on, we're gonna sing this sing this fucking pre-chorus together. Like a fan's my shit. All right, mic check, mic check. One, two, one, two.
Starting point is 03:02:33 Thank y'all for listening in my life. Fucking right, man. I don't know if I can face it again Can't you now? I'm traveled so far Change is love now I wanna know what love is I want you to show me. KC, something about when you on the boards, the music,
Starting point is 03:03:14 it don't hit like it's, I don't know. It don't hit like it's, I don't know what's happening. This is Foreigner. KC, you ever heard Foreigner? Some more bass. You're doing Foreigner wrong. I know they white, but you ain't. You're just sitting there chilling, looking, like, beautiful.
Starting point is 03:03:33 Listen, life is a series of moments, and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all that we have. Till the next time, do remember that the baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to travel. And the closed-minded women want you to teach them things. Grab an ibuprofen and enjoy your headache. As far as hip-hop, man. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 03:03:58 Come on, man. Some of y'all don't know about heartache and pain. Text your lady. Tell her you got a villa somewhere. Fly her out, go meet her there. I don't know Cause I can face it again I can't stop now I've traveled so far Chasing lonely love I wanna know what love is I'm so shocked I'm so shocked We'll be back same time, same place next week, man. Hopefully y'all enjoyed this podcast. Hopefully, William, music geek you out too much.
Starting point is 03:04:29 I thought it was good. Shut up. No, this was good. I apologize if I didn't let anyone else talk in three hours. My bad. I tried to let niggas talk. I did. But I failed.
Starting point is 03:04:41 I'm a fail sometimes. But did I fail or did I realize A new way to not succeed I mean I don't know I don't know I don't know Ish Ish You didn't come to the strip club
Starting point is 03:04:55 On Wednesday But same crew working tonight What's up You good Oh silence Got it Listen take it down Y'all be easy man
Starting point is 03:05:04 Best podcast in the fucking world Hold it down it y'all be easy man this podcast is fucking work Oh, I feel lonely Oh, you just can't hide No need to show me N-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-

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