The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 469 | "Scotch and Soda"

Episode Date: September 8, 2021

After sitting with Drake's 'Certified Lover Boy' album for the weekend, the crew discusses if their thoughts change toward the project since its release (17:15). Although Kanye's album dropped 2 weeks... ago, it was the track that he didn't release that had everyone talking this weekend, specifically Andre 3000's featured verse (27:55). The crew debate why it was left off of the album and unanimously agree that 3 stacks should return to making music and Joe claims Andre 3000 is the second greatest rapper alive (46:40). Joe then opens up about his friendship with actor Michael K. Williams and reflects on his legacy and shares stories of how they crossed paths at some of their most vulnerable moments in life (1:24:30). The entire crew sends condolences to Michael's family and loved ones due to his untimely transition. Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden   Sleeper Picks Joe Budden - “Only Human” (Ft. Emanny) and “Poker In The Sky” 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up, Ish? I don't want to know what's up, bro. What's up, bro? We just starting. I don't want... I just want to get my sound right. Not only are we just starting, but you're in the presence of 41-year-old Joe.
Starting point is 00:00:11 So the yelling, the interrupting that I used to do. That was the past. The heaviness. So are you saying you're not yelling no more? No. For how long? I don't know. You're not yelling no more? No. For how long? I don't know. You're not interrupting no more?
Starting point is 00:00:29 I don't want to be yelling no more. Yeah, I'm not doing those things. Okay. You got to mature. You got to find the areas that you need to improve in and improve them. Self-reflection? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:40 So if you have anything you want to get out at the start-ish, I don't even know if I should still call you that at 41. We on names now. We men. What's your name, Joseph? That's my name. Oh, gotcha. Right?
Starting point is 00:00:54 No more mouse. No. Gotcha. Just asking. Now, enough with this pre-pod banner. Just asking. Now, enough with this pre-pod banner. I was coming here to hit the round of applause because Ice got more ice in his chain.
Starting point is 00:01:14 I didn't think it was possible. To have his chain on. And that's my beef with you. What, did Sweetie beat him to the icy branding? Gucci did, actually did actually named his son Yeah, you know shirts and everything why you take your icy chain off before you pod You're not 41, tell the truth. What are y'all doing? I tell the truth at 41. Me too. You're not 41. I tell the truth, though.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I tell the truth at 31. 29. You guys look great. Both of you. Thank you. Likewise. Thanks. Yo, he on this shit.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Yo, this guy. I already see the nonsense. Yeah, I know what it is. It's brewing. Nothing is brewing. Nothing is brewing. Nothing is brewing. All right, where's my phone? We got to start.
Starting point is 00:02:08 We got to start somewhere. Let's see here. Do, do, do, do. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. And Revron, let's go. Look at your neighbor and say, God came to seek and to save those which were lost. And I began to explain to him, out of love, I began to say, if I came into church preaching three years and I was naked, a lot of people would say they ain't coming because I'm crazy. But what would happen is they would have missed the whole ministry of Isaiah because he preached three years but naked. A lot of people would say they ain't coming because I'm crazy. But what would happen is they would have missed the whole ministry of Isaiah.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Because he preached three years, but naked. If I was in here with a G-string eating roaches and eating honey, they'd be like, I ain't going in there. Something wrong with him. But then they would have missed the word from a John the Baptist. Y'all ain't talking to me. If you would have heard that maybe that preacher was involved in a rape case And you didn't want to go with him
Starting point is 00:03:07 Then you would have missed the ministry of a Joseph For what they meant for evil, God has turned around for good If you would have heard that the preacher was a murderer You're not going to the church Then you wouldn't have received what Moses had to say If you would have heard that me and Sister Crystal right here Had an affair and I killed her husband And everybody in the church know that we getting jiggy and then I stand up and say the
Starting point is 00:03:28 Lord say and you don't want to hear me then you're gonna miss the whole ministry on King David y'all ain't talking to me in here that's why you got to overlook the man sometimes and hear the word of God y'all ain't talking to me here if you heard if you heard that I was homosexual and you didn't understand why I was preaching this gospel, you might as well throw this King James Bible away. Because in 1611, a homosexual is the one that broke this down for the living people. Y'all ain't talking to me here. You might as well turn Donnie McClurkin off. We fall down and we get up.
Starting point is 00:04:02 He wrote his best music when he was living in sin. Kirk Franklin going to pornos. best music when he was living in sin Mike check, Mike check, Mike check. Mike, Mike, Mike check. 1-2, 1-2, Mike check. 1-2, 1-2. one, two, mic check, one, two, one, two. Children, I got it from here. Just like you and me But she's homeless She's homeless And she stands there Singing for money La-da-dee, la-da-da
Starting point is 00:05:12 La-da-dee, la-da-da La-da-dee, la-da-da La-da-dee, la-da-da Some of y'all already know what time I'm on today I'm doing it for a good friend A good family friend La-da-dee, la-da-da I'm doing it for a good friend a good family friend I'm doing it for Brooklyn raised Jersey saved activist philanthropist dancer poet writer father brother, Jesus You know his name, not Omar
Starting point is 00:05:46 Don't do it, yes sir And shout out to Omar Although the heart is not mine I ask now why A lot of y'all might not know the history of this man Michael K. Williams But we gonna get to it a little bit. Just a little bit. Hopefully somewhere around the second hour because, yeah, I ain't trying to, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:06:14 It's been a rough few days. But I'm celebrating life. These pods are real difficult to do. They real difficult to get through Ayy Playing these dance records for my guy, ayy I got about 50 more of these I would love to play but we got shit to do, let's go Brooklyn what up, my heart is with y'all this morning To the family, the fans My heart is with everybody I'm tired of giving my love
Starting point is 00:07:19 And getting nowhere Y'all gonna talk this part, y'all ain't leaving me on the island, boy I've been thinking about that all yesterday. I said, now what's gonna happen when I gotta bring this in and they look at me? Now fuck that. No, we're here. Alright, good, good, good.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Hey! I really need a lover A lover that'll want to be there It's been so long since I've touched a haunting hand I can't put my love on the line That I hope you understand So baby, don't want me to leave You have to know me love
Starting point is 00:08:03 Words aren't so easy to say Let me hear that nigga. Oh, shit. Don't need love. On the next go round. Next go round. Words aren't so easy to say. Oh, I, you've got the. All right. All right, glad to see things are, glad to see crowd participation still at an all time high. They should change.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I see how the baby got in trouble. Man, it is rough trying to get the crowd to join in on some things. Yo, you ever thought about doing that? Doing a little guest DJ set somewhere? I think you'll be ill. You might not be that bad. I don't know how to DJ. I mean, you kind of do.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Yeah, you kind of do. What you mean, you don't know how to DJ? I know how to select. That's DJing. Today, that's DJing. What you mean? You don't know how to do shit? I know how to select. That's DJing. Today, that's DJing. And that's the problem. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:50 You might not know how to get all your blend on. Unfortunately, right. You ain't got to scratch and all that. You got your BP matching. You kind of got it. I know how to do that. You can read the room and play the records that you think is playing. That's ultimately what you have to do is read the room and play the records. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:01 All the technical shit don't really matter as much if you nice it. That's true. Picking records. Picking the right shit. But the shit that I complain about with the DJs is what I would do if I was a DJ. If I was up there and I had to look at the crowd and gauge how they was feeling and I saw the baddie out there.
Starting point is 00:09:18 If I spotted the baddies here and I control the music and I get free drinks, oh, fuck this club. And what'd you say? You weren't here? What'd you say? You tank? I'm playing her shit all night. Yeah, but then she come up to you and you just... Oh, then she come up to you
Starting point is 00:09:36 and she bumping the table. I don't care. Record jumping. But nah, if you did a set though, Like people that Know your bag Would come out For that set Your music
Starting point is 00:09:48 Yeah it's a little different They're not coming to you To hear the shit They hear on the radio Cause that ain't what you play Right That's why I think It would be ill
Starting point is 00:09:55 If you did that shit What year was that Maybe like 2012 13 11 Then what happened Dog Q-tip Used to have this hole in the wall on fire.
Starting point is 00:10:08 What was the name of that shit? Sam. Something House? Yeah, fuck. You remember. You could wear anything you wanted in there. Oh, man. That shit used to be jumping.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Niggas would be in there with basketball shorts on. Another nigga in there with a prom gown. That shit used to be lit. That shit used to be on fire, nigga. Yeah. Yeah. I remember. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I've been out all week, though. I forgot. Yeah. I just said that to say, though, I could see you. Nah, Q-Tip used to have him. For like a little. Because you can get that. And now that y'all say that, the other night I even ran into DJ.
Starting point is 00:10:40 DJ on DJ hate. That's huge. Yeah, but it shouldn't be where I know it happens often but it shouldn't be where the party goer can tell like Sunday one person was DJing and it was cool
Starting point is 00:10:56 but then somebody else started DJing remember that shit I said about people don't dig into the other bags and they digged into every bag that the first DJ skipped on the drill set.
Starting point is 00:11:10 It was Tevin, Jade, dancing. He was boogieing in there. I ain't heard nobody know. Wow! And I could see other party goers looking up like, hey, what's up? You could tell a change in the energy and the pace there. And the girls are friendlier now, and the drinks are flowing more.
Starting point is 00:11:26 They're offering to buy you a drink. It's like, whoa. They're partying now. We in a trance. Yeah. Especially in certain age demos. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah, this guy had each demo in here rocking, so we could all party together. That's a real DJ. But I guess the other DJ was still there. He wasn't feeling it. He didn't leave. He came back. He saw there. He wasn't feeling it? He didn't leave. He came back. He saw that. He didn't come back.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I don't know. We was all having too good of a time. But then we stopped having the same time. So it went back to a different time. So I looked up. And it wasn't a dude again. And then he went back to. He tried to get into some other bag.
Starting point is 00:12:07 He was trying. But you tell that ain't his. And you could tell now. Oh, you just, oh, you seen that. You felt that. You tried to copy that. And that's no disrespect to him
Starting point is 00:12:16 because I'm coming back there Sunday. Damn, where you was at? I'm going back. I can't, I'm not going to tell it here. I'll tell you. You're not allowed out on the weekends. Come on, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Don't talk to me.
Starting point is 00:12:26 You're my weekday friend. When was the last time I seen you on like a weekend? No, you twice a week. That's it. A hot weekend. We hang out. Yo, welcome to episode two of the Ice-ish Parks Podcast featuring Joe Budden. We are here.
Starting point is 00:12:39 It is lit. Shout out to our first and last time listeners. Shout out to a bunch of you phony motherfuckers that left and came back for the drink with you like i knew y'all would i told you i told you motherfuckers uh somebody popped up was like yo this is my first time listening since the breakup i was like yo don't come now but that's the part i don't like i was joking but wait wait y'all don't have to i see y'all doing this let me let me talk to him a little bit y'all don't have to preface it i don't care welcome yeah they don't have to say that's what i told y'all ain't have to preface it. I don't care. Welcome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:06 That's what I told you. Yo, ain't heard you in a while. Yo, I left after such and such. I know it was a lot, but we're here now. If you're listening, you're listening. If you're not, you're not. It's fine. Welcome. Who else am I shouting out?
Starting point is 00:13:16 This episode is brought to you by us. I was going to say, wait, we got sponsors now? No, no, it's us. Well, we do. Must be. Scotch and soda. Scotch and soda. Don't it taste great together?
Starting point is 00:13:29 Great combo. Oh, my. You ever had it? Whoa. Whoa. Don't you love it? You don't even drink. I've never seen ice drink a scotch.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Or a soda. Or a soda, yeah. A cola, maybe. Yeah. Oh, man. How you feeling cola, maybe. Oh, man. How you feeling today, Joe? Better than ever. Better than ever.
Starting point is 00:13:51 So no ad? No, no ad. No ad. Oh, man. All right, cool. That was a good one. Cool, cool. So we didn't see you this weekend.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Nope. Ice and I stepped out. I didn't see Ice this weekend either. I seen Joe this weekend. Yo, I've been outside outside He was outside a little bit Yo I've really been He was out I partied with Parks
Starting point is 00:14:11 Yeah Ice Imani Imani Yeah he was there Oh Imani This nigga wouldn't sit down I've been out a little bit
Starting point is 00:14:21 It was a good time Damn man I'm realizing How much I've been out I feel like more people should have asked me for my phone number. I was about to say, you bagged something?
Starting point is 00:14:29 No. No. See? What's up, man? I was just asking. Would I bag something? You really don't want to say? Oh, we got a bone or two.
Starting point is 00:14:41 We might need some boxing gloves. Oh, we just talked about that. No, no, no. Come on. I made a mistake. My bad. No, you didn't. That's my bad. It might need some boxing gloves. Oh, we just talked about that. No, no, no. Come on. I made a mistake. My bad. No, you didn't.
Starting point is 00:14:46 That's my bad. No, it's cool. That's my bad. That's my bad. That's my bad. What the fuck is this nigga talking about? I'm sorry. If you want to snuff me, I understand.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I get it. Because that was fucked up. What you did, man? I promoted our pod. I thought I was promoting our pod. I thought I was promoting our pod. It's all right. It's all right, fam.
Starting point is 00:15:05 We good. Oh, see? See, and that's why. That's why what? That's why it's my guy right here. Now I'm your guy. That's why it's my guy. He served you up.
Starting point is 00:15:13 He ain't even snuffing me. He just took care of it. Just take care of it. Get your lady. You know what I mean? Talk to your lady. I mean, I'm sorry. I did it wrong.
Starting point is 00:15:21 But he straightened it out. He straightened it out. Scott right here. Yo, moving along.ened it out. He straightened it out. Scott right here. Yo, moving along. Yo, Scott just sold it. All right, moving along. No, no, no. We're not on Scott just sold it.
Starting point is 00:15:30 We're moving on. Yeah. How was everyone's weekend? I had a good time. I'm joking for an hour, and then we're just going to cry. So let's just laugh. Yeah, get all the jokes and stuff out. Let's just laugh.
Starting point is 00:15:39 What else is funny? Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. This guy's nuts no come on cause me and Ice
Starting point is 00:15:46 listen Ice and I went out Saturday we just going it ain't much to talk about I don't have nothing written down but I kinda like when the pod goes like that now so I'm just reached out
Starting point is 00:15:54 where'd y'all go strippy yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's where I saw Joe on Friday too duh
Starting point is 00:15:59 strippy oh my god duh wow we had a good time yo I've been out but, I've been out. But listen, I've been out making observations.
Starting point is 00:16:08 He was just people watching. That's it. Yeah, that's the best. And because it's Labor Day weekend, and I always forget this, but because it's Labor Day weekend, it's Labor Day weekend. Shifts, strippers, bartenders right crowd patrons shout out to Patreon yeah so
Starting point is 00:16:28 Friday we was there Friday right yeah our favorites weren't necessarily nah they weren't they weren't there
Starting point is 00:16:36 booked and busy they weren't there and that's fine so that just gave me time to look around at things and maybe it's a Patreon thing, but I want to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Yeah, let's save it for Patreon. All right, so we shouldn't start with that. What do you want to start with? Has anyone changed their mind on the Drake album? Absolutely. Are we in the aftermath time? I lived with it.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I played it. I had a couple people over Saturday, cookout vibes, some girls there. Okay. It didn't work. We sat there and argued about the album, and there was never any dancing happening.
Starting point is 00:17:07 See, so that works, though. It started conversation. It started conversation. Yeah, you're right. It worked on that level. Still ain't it. Nah, it's not. But, and I knew this was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:17:17 That Way Too Sexy record. It's working. It's going to fucking work. Yeah. It's working. I knew it. No, it is working. It's already working.
Starting point is 00:17:23 It's working. It's working. But it worked before Drake was born born it always worked yeah it never means yo they laughed at right said fred no i got that song back then but i'm talking about with these three artists this time like it's cheesy it was just like this ain't gonna do it i hated the song and i knew let me hear it out enough times let me hear it outside and they knew and they make the funny video like they always make and the girls run it up on instagram it's marketing genius yeah that and it's working yeah it's working but yeah a lot of women hit me too like yo didn't love it no it's not just thought it was cool it's right No, it's not. Just thought it was cool. It's regular.
Starting point is 00:18:06 It's not bad. This is what I think happened. I think all of the hoopla between the Drake and Kanye shit pushed us to think he was going to just release this thriller. You know what I'll say about both these albums?
Starting point is 00:18:22 J. Cole is the man. We got to start putting a little more respect on J. Cole. Absolutely. Well, yeah. But how'd you get there? Just because he's amazing. He came out first. He came out first.
Starting point is 00:18:34 There was no question. He came out first. No question. He came out on fire. Dope or not, there was not ever a doubt in anyone's mind. And I still play. And he came out first.
Starting point is 00:18:43 And he came out first. I didn't wait for nobody. I don't need to know what you're doing i don't care about your project let me oh i know you might be dropping here let me nope nope nope nope fuck all y'all i'm here and i'm out that's it like i think that we thought based on again all the kanye drake hoopla he was going to just release the michael jackson thriller shit and he didn't. He just released a regular Drake album. Which is not a bad thing, by the way. And I know. This is just literally a regular Drake album. It has
Starting point is 00:19:11 no... I got it. Do you think it's interesting? And I want to walk back by a take about when you talk about him releasing another album in 2025 or something crazy. I think we're going to get another Drake album very soon
Starting point is 00:19:25 very soon yeah cause I'm starting to hear people you know saying that half of this album was leaks different people are saying
Starting point is 00:19:30 I heard this record in such and such crib three years ago and that's not how he moves correct in the past I'm only comparing him
Starting point is 00:19:37 to himself we've gotten Drake records that leaked and he went and retooled everything like oh y'all got that cool it sounds like old work
Starting point is 00:19:44 this does not sound like old work it really does like i put my all into this is my baby this don't sound like that sound like old work and i wouldn't be bad for that because it's still the world still ain't right he still can't do what he wants to do he can't go do the stadium tour really like how he wants to do with the flying lamborghinis and all that shit i think there was a little bit more pressure behind him putting the album out. He had to put something out. Yeah. It's the same way that that Scary Hours 2 dropped when it dropped. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:13 He has deals in place with people that's revolving around music. Excuse me. Revolving around music. And it's like, yo, fam, I get it, but business ain't stopping. You need to give us something. And he's like, I have a whole deal. It's the same way Scary Hours came out. Okay, cool. Let me give you this.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I can do it with my radio show. Because they announced the radio show, then there was no show. Right. So we got to give you something. I think this is the same thing with this album. I agree. Cool. You know what?
Starting point is 00:20:34 That makes sense. Here's the album. It was halfway done. It's leaked or whatever you want to call it. I could throw some more records on there, put this out. Here we go. This is not his baby. We're going to see Drake and his team in the studio way too much for the past two years
Starting point is 00:20:45 for this to be six or seven songs that have been out in some form or fashion in the last two or three years makes sense that makes sense that's weird
Starting point is 00:20:54 so that's why I think we might get another Drake album next year even the sound yo just the sound was just old work
Starting point is 00:21:02 man that you only live twice the Rawson you can hear that that is an old record like I could just hear it was just old work. It sounded like old work. The Rawson, you can hear that that is an old record. Like, I could just hear it. And it just does not sound like what Drake does
Starting point is 00:21:11 when he puts an album out. This sounds like when I throw the little Project of Thornways and Lucy's out. The mixtape or the playlist or whatever you want to, this sounds like that.
Starting point is 00:21:19 But we'll have a couple hits on there. Yeah, I'm going to give you something on there. And again, I'm not saying this is trash or anything like that. This is just, that's why I gave it a six. you something on there. Again, I'm not saying this is trash or anything like that. That's why I gave it a six.
Starting point is 00:21:28 It's right there. There's nothing groundbreaking about this. It doesn't sound like they put their all into it. All right, here. Let me give you all this to shut you up. This is a pacifier album. The other crazy shit is Drake dropped the best song of the past two years this weekend
Starting point is 00:21:43 and it wasn't on his album. It wasn't on his album. Let's not speed to that. Relax. Let's get to this. How do you feel about it after living with it for a couple days? I'm with y'all. This is cool.
Starting point is 00:21:57 It's a regular, right? It's a C. His regular is still better than a lot of people's. Y'all are right. I think a lot of this is old. I think a lot of this is old. Yeah. I think a lot of it is old. And if I subscribe to that, I do believe that
Starting point is 00:22:11 he's probably coming next summer. Yeah. And if I subscribe to that and then I look at the album cover. Yeah. And then I read the credits and then I listen again. Because you see,
Starting point is 00:22:22 when you listen again and again and again, because I listen, because when you listen again and again and again because I listen I like to unpack this shit. Champagne Poetry the intro was fire to me but it was old fire. That felt like one of the newer ones to me personally but. Not me.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Not me at all. Even if it was it didn't. It didn't feel like what he would normally do on an intro. That's what I mean. It didn't sound like current headspace, what Drake would do on intro. It sounds like it would be track 14
Starting point is 00:22:53 normally. Yeah, like I'm not trying to set the stage of my new album after going through all the shit. We've been off for two years. Even the beat flips weren't the same. Royal Windows Down. They weren't the same. The beat flips weren't the same they weren't the same the beat flips wasn't the same
Starting point is 00:23:07 Poppy's Home I skip it because I'm not singing Poppy's Home with you but cool that sounds kinda like it could fall
Starting point is 00:23:17 in that boat too see and this is where you start jazzing things up Girls Want Girls was a phone call for him in the Bible was a phone call for him and Love All is probably an old Girls was a phone call for him. In the Bible, it was a phone call for him.
Starting point is 00:23:27 And Love All is probably an old record and a phone call. Well, we know Love All is an old record. Because we heard it. We've had that. It was on the oldie. Fair Trade was a phone call. And Travis, were you trying to get him back for
Starting point is 00:23:41 Sicko Mode? Because you tried it. Yeah. Hey, on the second and third listen, I was in the shower like, hey, wait, hold up. Hey, that ain't just Travis. He's trying to do it. Hey, Travis got the call and was like, oh, yeah, it's on. I've been waiting for this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:59 And Drake just let you win. And that said to me, okay, way too sexy. More phone calls and the single. We need the single. That sounds like one that they tried. You know what I'm saying? Well, we need the single. Yeah. We need the single.
Starting point is 00:24:12 They tried. And then I'm looking at that. Even Drake dropping an album without a single. In hindsight, all of this is. I was surprised that none of them records from the various EPs and singles that leaked were on here. That tells me something. I don't know what leaked were on here. That tells me something. I don't know what it tells me, but it tells me something.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Because usually they would. Usually he'll take the biggest one and throw it on there. Yeah, exactly. Bumped a number. Hotline Bling was on. You know what I'm saying? Those records were out way before that. I expected Tootsie Slide or Laugh Now, Cry Later.
Starting point is 00:24:37 When I saw him list the features, I said, please don't let the Dirk record be Laugh Now, Cry Later. And another thing I noticed about Dirk was we said it on Laugh Now Cry Later because it sounded like he just got as soon as he was getting in the verse he just stopped he let it go and I we made the joke that you know Drake saw him getting ready to go and was like no no no let me get back in here did the same thing on this verse he starts going he promotes his girl's brand which which was amazing. I love that. And it just stopped. Like, he just,
Starting point is 00:25:08 it's like he ran out of gas mid-verse. TSU more the same. In Too Deep for me, more the same. TSU's another old one. I didn't realize that. Yeah, TSU is another old one.
Starting point is 00:25:19 It was Desires on the previous. In Too Deep, I want him to stop calling Future. So, I'm done. Even though the second half or one of them halves, one of them halves. But I ain't got time for all this shit. Now, Yeba. No, no, go back.
Starting point is 00:25:35 No, Pipe Down is the one. Oh, Pipe Down. That's my favorite song. That's my one. I don't care when he made that. Yeah, I don't care. Whatever that was made, that should have been on his album. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Yeba should have been there, should have been made, that should have been on his album. Yeah. Yeah, but should have been there, should have been longer. Probably my favorite shit on his album. No Friends in the Industry, I like that too, but it's still old. That one's old too? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:54 It don't sound... I mean, that one wasn't a previous leak or nothing, but it sounds... It sounds... Drake is a like for the times guy. He ain't gonna miss the times. That record, there's a time for that. He actually did it already. He did that whole shit.
Starting point is 00:26:08 He bodied that, but it's there. Fuck it. I'll take it. They played it in the strip club. I'll take it. That's the record they played that and too sexy. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:26:15 but that was it. And normally for a drag drop, we, I normally get a little more than that in the strip club. That's why I go kind of, uh, no, uh,
Starting point is 00:26:22 no friends in the industry. I like, I like knife talk. I don't, I like knife talk. I do. Kind of. No friends in the industry. Knife Talk. I like Knife Talk. I don't. I like Knife Talk. I do. I like it. As I continue to listen,
Starting point is 00:26:30 I liked it more than I had. And 7am, we don't have to talk about it. He did that last, the night before this album dropped. But that's new. That's the brand. That's brand new.
Starting point is 00:26:41 That's hot off the press. That one was, I got you on my mind. Yeah. All the rest of this shit Same Same So we ain't gotta do all that I'm sure we bored y'all
Starting point is 00:26:52 Or some of y'all With three hours of Drake before But he deserves that We don't have to do that now I got cursed out But we kind of What? Oh they was letting me have it
Starting point is 00:27:01 How dare you Give it a six Nah some people was rocking with you. Mad people. I'm telling you what I saw. I don't read the comments. I'm talking about my mentions on social media. Yeah, people was rocking with you.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Now, Aubrey, you made one mistake. Just one. Let's listen in America today. This is the best shepherd. This is a mistake that makes me think. How do I say this? This is not a Drake-like mistake to me. You think it's a mistake?
Starting point is 00:27:40 I'm saying it's a mistake now. Maybe he did it purposely, but he shouldn't have did this. Oh, I see why it's a mistake. Because this is better than everything. Okay. Yeah. Which, which... I get it.
Starting point is 00:27:52 All right, so let me ask you this. And Drake knows that because he's a fan of 3K. He knows what three stacks is. I think he made the same mistake that I made. That's what he's going to call me a narcissist. I get it.
Starting point is 00:28:03 I literally just had that conversation off camera. He made the same mistake that I made is what you're gonna call me a narcissist I get it but I just I literally just had that conversation the same mistakes that I made where he did that shit uh pump it up on the no shopping shit and I knew it existed before y'all knew and I rushed to it and y'all flamed me up and I think that's what he did he knew this track existed he knew it was like a real thing and he got it somehow and before you put this greatness out I'm gonna put this greatness out to step on some of your shit but it didn't no it did the opposite
Starting point is 00:28:35 that shit was way too good the rest of this podcast at least for the next 40 minutes will be about this this shit right here cause I don't know how to talk about something else with this.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Fan. Shut up, Kanye. Yeah. This ain't about you right now. Go find God. I'm using that, by the way. Oh, my God. Don't help us.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. And you would think they let you speak to your son Maybe she has in the form of a baby's laugh I heard passing by in a stroller Reminding me, hey, keep rolling on over Maybe she has with a prick of a blade of grass I've been laying on way too long Got me itchy, got up and roamed a little more Let's stop this. This is fucking crazy. Let's stop this.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I just listened to this before this podcast. I couldn't listen to it this weekend because once I saw people tweeting... I listened to it right before we all sat down. I couldn't listen to it on the weekend. Once people were tweeting what it was about, I was like,
Starting point is 00:29:47 this is going to make me like sad and introspective this whole weekend. I can't do this right now. I wish I would have did that. This shit is too good. I woke up to, yo, you seen what happened? Yo, yo, yo,
Starting point is 00:29:58 text messages, everything. Like, what the fuck are y'all talking about? And then I listened and I just sat there. Like, that's... Where's Andre 3000 on lists? Andre 3000
Starting point is 00:30:11 is the most amazing human alien that ever existed. His ability to describe the human experience that poetically is crazy. He's top 10. Top 7, probably.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Lyrically? All time? He's definitely top 10. I'm with you. Easy. I can't name too many people that are better at rapping than Yeah, I think he's in everybody's lyrical top 10, probably. Musical top 10? Y'all say lyrical top ten, probably. And musical top ten.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Y'all say lyrically like he don't have some of the firest music of all time with OutKast. It's not him, though. It's a group. You get what I'm saying? He was in the group. This is why we need more Andre 3000 discussions, because this is how they all go. He was in a group.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Well, I don't care. I mean... I don't care. That don't take any points away from it. He never did a solo album., I mean... I don't care. I don't take any points away from him. He never did a solo album. He only pops up once every... Don't care. Because when he pops up, he does this. I get that, but... Yeah, he... Holding him to
Starting point is 00:31:16 the camera. Andre 3000 is the second best rapper alive. He might be the best. He's not the best. In my opinion. He might be the best. But this the best in my opinion he might be the best but this is what I'll say to that because I had an interesting talk with my cousin who gave me a beautiful
Starting point is 00:31:34 analogy for Andre 3000 and he took me back to what movie was that? Good Will Hunting? Matt Damon? And I have a clip here. I would play it. Let me see if
Starting point is 00:31:50 I could play this. It's a Good Will Hunting clip? Yeah. What scene? Yeah, I'll play it. I think you could show me some appreciation. A little appreciation? Do you know how easy this is for me? I do this shit like it's nothing.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Do you have any fucking idea how easy this is? This is a fucking joke. And I'm sorry you can't do this. I really am, because I wouldn't have to fucking sit here and watch you fumble around and fuck it up. You saw Good Will on the way? Yeah, of course. Lose your mind. Run instead, wouldn't you?
Starting point is 00:32:23 You're right. This is probably a total waste of my time. I want to watch this movie again. Anyway, the long and short is genius, genius level shit. They're talking about being geniuses. I'm going to let him do it because he does it better than me.
Starting point is 00:32:41 But then I'm going to compare this to Jay-Z and Andre. Okay. Because I feel like Jay-Z has to feel like this about Andre. You have to know. When it comes to that, it's only about. Let me pause this. You have to know that there's a man out there with this ability.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Yeah. This genius level shit that probably only you could really tell just how genius it is. And he's chilling playing the flute. Going to Starbucks. And that, you just have to know it. And he does it while being regular, kind of. Even though he's like weird and eccentric
Starting point is 00:33:18 and all that shit, he don't have to do the I'm bigger than you, I'm better than you, I'm richer than you, I'm more brilliant than you. He just does it. So in Good Will Hunting Hunting the professor is like in Good Will Hunting the professor is like he won the math award twice he's like that guy right he's braggadocious a little bit bravado you get a kid that's fucking niggas up fighting on the street that's mopping floors at MIT and he could do some shit that you can't do in an hour you know
Starting point is 00:33:47 I'm saying he's just and he's just wasting his gifts so the dude says yo dog it there are only three people in the world that could do this you one of them and in a heart it saddens me that you wasting your gifts out here doing nothing with him Jay-z has to say that about this guy yo if I'm an instigate hip-hop shit then shit the greats ain't excluded either he has to say that about this guy. Yo, if I'm going to instigate hip hop shit, then shit, the greats ain't excluded either. He has to feel like that about somebody that can do this effortlessly. And just beautifully. He has to be the second best rapper alive, bar none.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I'm running. I'm trying to run. Just rapping ability. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm trying to run just rapping ability I'm with you I'm with you I'm with you I'm talking about all abilities
Starting point is 00:34:28 off of the rapping ability no no no cause when you start talking that goat like again man this is just me personally he's one of the goats
Starting point is 00:34:34 I'm cool with that but when I start hearing yes that not having an album shit counts no no don't it counts
Starting point is 00:34:42 you have to be able to compete you gotta jump out there. You got to do it. Nope. Sorry. I used to say what Ice is saying. I'm with Parks.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Yeah, no, I'm sorry. And I'm on his team. Have you ever heard of Quebana? Yes, I have. Have you heard ATLians? I have. A few days ago. There's nothing.
Starting point is 00:34:58 You can't care. And Big Boy was amazing, too. No, Big Boy's all right. Miss Donda, you see my mama. Tell her I'm lost. You see, she'd always light a cigarette. We'd talk. I would call. And Big Boi was amazing too No Big Boi's alright Oh my god Y'all thought he was hot Dang Oh my Mama, she ain't cut no corners, got me back on track I don't miss her oversteppin', but do miss her showin'
Starting point is 00:35:25 Seven civilian life shit, I understand it See my mama whisper her this The real reason I was geeked to go to church was confess When y'all grown-ups would be in Bible study I gotta talk over it, but I don't want to And I was fuckin' so pure And perverted, so spirit spinning and dirty So on, so on, and so on
Starting point is 00:35:42 We hope that no one heard it See, first of all, of all forget rapping for a second let's fuck rapping fuck words fuck all of that vocal control this is fucking a master class it is it really is and it is every time he does this yes he does it a lot he does that right there what he's doing now yeah after he made we just we had to talk and i'm like yo he makes it i want to know how long it took him to do this and i'm sure it was really short like this sounds like all right i just just think this and say it right not many can do that you asked me
Starting point is 00:36:21 that at the strip club and i was was like, honestly, probably 10 minutes. This does not sound like. I said, think about it. If your mom passed, and then a beautiful soundtrack came on, and you had to write something to it. From someone whose mother also passed. Yeah. On an album centered around his mother passing, verse that verse it wouldn't take long and i'm both shocked and understanding why kanye didn't put that out i don't know if i would be
Starting point is 00:36:53 i don't know if i would be able to put that out tell me the understanding part well this is dirty and we'll take this from parsca answer i just want to read andre's statement on what happened so we could kind of explain some of this kanye put out a gospel album this verse is a dirty verse even though i didn't really hear a curse where i wasn't i was too mesmerized when a girl was fucking i was too mesmerized yeah that didn't matter but okay you cursed kanye can't make it a gospel album if there's curse words and according to con uh here it is i read it but i'll read it for the people that missed this andre three stack says a few weeks ago kanye reached out about me being a part of the donda album pardon me i was inspired by his idea to make a musical tribute to his mom
Starting point is 00:37:35 it felt appropriate to support the donda concept by referencing my own mother who passed away in 2013 we both shared that loss i thought it was a beautiful choice to make a clean album, but unfortunately, I didn't know that was the plan before I wrote and recorded my verse. It was clear to me that an edited clean format of the verse would not work without having the raw original also available, so sadly, I had to be omitted from the original album release. The track I received and wrote to didn't have the diss verse on it and we were hoping to make a more focused offering for the Donda album. Let me stop right there and explain to the people what this is.
Starting point is 00:38:15 He's pissed. He's tight. He's pissed. He's tight. You used me as a plug. You used me for this? I would have never been a part of you dissing Drake. He's tight at both of them.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I don't know if he's tight at both of them. He's tight at both of them. I don't know if he's tied to both of them. He's tied to both of them. Why? Because Drake leaked it. Yeah. Yeah. He's tied to both of them. And in defense of Kanye, and I don't know if this is true, it sounded like a ref verse. He might not have been done with that verse. You know what I'm saying? Like at the end, he's just freestyling with the auto-tune on, which he does sometimes. Kanye shit, right?
Starting point is 00:38:42 Yeah, yeah. It didn't sound like what he usually does when he freestyles with the auto tune on like i'm not sure that this was the intended final thing it wasn't yeah it was a 3000 and saying keep me out your shit man yeah yeah but a more focused offering but let's stay there for a second caught me and said yo i'm doing a donda album tribute to my mom for my mother and i want you on here lost your mom and that's what he's saying like okay
Starting point is 00:39:07 I can relate to you we share that loss we both lost our moms focused I'm locked in right here we gonna go 40 something years old keep me out that
Starting point is 00:39:16 and that's what you do but yeah keep me out that dumb shit this is what you take this verse and do but look but he's Dre so he says but I guess things happen
Starting point is 00:39:22 like they're supposed to it's unfortunate that it was released in this way up mad to. It's unfortunate that it was released in this way. Mad at Dre. It's unfortunate that it was released in this way. And two artists that I love are going back and forth. He ate all that shit. I wanted to be on Certified Lover Boy, too.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Hey, I want to be on Kendrick's shit, too. And guess what? Hey, and I want to work with Lil Baby and Tyler and Hov I respect them all beautiful what a classic round of applause
Starting point is 00:39:52 classiest guy in the world if this song somehow made that Kanye album the talk goes differently it does it's different it goes it's another certified now let me Big Joker that Kanye album, the talk goes differently. It does. It's a different.
Starting point is 00:40:06 It goes very... It's another certified... Now, let me ask... It's Big Joker. It's Big Joker. Hold on, hold on. Let me ask y'all. It goes different for the 3,000 verse.
Starting point is 00:40:14 No, it goes different for the album. I'm asking you. This is an album changer. Yeah. It is. For what... I'm saying what Kanye did
Starting point is 00:40:22 because your argument was before. Oh, Ice got a point. He ain't rapping, but everybody he's put on the album was doing all the rapping. Are you talking to Ish? Yeah. Oh, okay. Your argument before was Kanye's not really rapping on this album like that.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Nothing that impressed you, really. So everything was the features doing all the rapping. So I'm asking you, this song going on the album makes it a game changer for Andre 3000's verse or for the whole song. Contingent upon what Kanye would have done. Well, we know what he did. No, we don't. No, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:51 I don't think he puts that. He didn't do anything. He didn't do anything. He ain't do nothing. He went there and tried to get the melody and he tried to get the flow. He started with doing
Starting point is 00:41:00 some Donda shit at the beginning of it and then tripped it off. He started getting a foot in his ass. It's all he started to do. It's all he started to do. doing some Donda shit at the beginning of it and then drifted off. He started getting a foot in his ass. If Kanye... It's all he started to do. It's all he started to do
Starting point is 00:41:08 was get a... Hey, Kanye, you cons. Who else? Si, who else is over there? Nigga. Dog. But it's not a knock. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:41:17 You can't. No, it's not. Yeah, with that one, you're going to get a foot in your ass. What are you going to do? I had sleepless nights over Fab Studio sessions sometimes. What do you going to do? I had sleepless nights over Fab Studio sessions sometimes. What do you do when that person walks in a studio?
Starting point is 00:41:30 And does that. No, before he does anything. No, before he does anything. Only now he's walked in. Right. He walked in. Like, Kobe walking in the gym. I ain't got to shoot.
Starting point is 00:41:39 And the wild shit is. He coming. He, obviously, he did his verse empty. Because he was like't he didn't know that was up there that diss track wasn't on so he just got the beat right so what do you do when you get that back no so again so to answer kanye went on there he got that verse back and was confused he was trying to find him a little and And dun, dun. Nah, dog. No, no.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Nah, dog. Nah. Nah. You know what it's like first? You know how you bring your hood friend over, right? You bring your hood friend over. Maybe this is old school, because people have hood friends. I don't fucking know.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Yeah. Yeah, we got hood friends. Yeah, it's so exciting. This is me and Isha talking. You don't bring them to your house no more, though, right? Sometimes. Yeah, nigga. For real? Yeah. I love my hood friends. Where't bring him to your house no more, though. Right? Sometimes. Yeah, nigga. For real?
Starting point is 00:42:25 Yeah. I love my hood friends. Where are these boys? They're my brothers, bro. Absolutely. Yeah, mine too. I know. No, for real.
Starting point is 00:42:32 But that one hood friend you bring to your house, he maybe shouldn't have been in your house, but he's so nice to your mom. Hey, Miss Such and Such. Now that when y'all leave, your mom is beating you down about how cool Such and Such is. You're like, yo, this nigga is a killer. Certified. And that's what happened when he came on the burn. Hello, Miss Donda.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This is going somewhere different. They did a whole album about Donda. And nobody gave me what the goosebumps that I got from even, hey there, Miss Donda. No, my point is- And why do all of us have that story about quit smoking, going to the store, and now you smoking? That's like a black urban legend. Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:43:20 In an egotisticalistical maybe insecure thing did he keep this off this album on purpose? No. I think he kept it off the album because he wasn't able to do with it what he wanted to do with it. And I still think he had plans for this song. You have to find a way
Starting point is 00:43:41 to put this on the album. We don't know that he there could be a deluxe coming. We don't know is what I'm saying. No, ain't nothing coming with this. No, no, no. This goes back to our Kanye and Dre fighting over the stems thing
Starting point is 00:43:52 where we had that fight. Like, you're right. Anybody else changes the verse. Hey, I don't know when they did this, but he said, hey, I didn't even know that's what you was doing on it. I didn't know you wanted to clean.
Starting point is 00:44:02 You didn't tell me. Everybody else, when they flew into that Mercedes Benz, they had a talk. Hey, come in this Falcons locker room or whatever the fuck they had and let's talk.
Starting point is 00:44:11 But he didn't tell him that and you're not calling Andre to say, you're going to change your verse. You're not. And he's going to say no. And when the verse is that good, you're not asking him to change a fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:44:19 And you can't ask me to change this verse. How? Listen, he bleeped out other curses first. He bleeped out a lot of people's curses. He bleeped out other curses from other artists. That's what I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:44:28 With the other artist's consent. I know. So again, he- Andre is saying, I'm not letting him bleep my shit out without y'all having this. Right. There was no way to do that. My verse was too raw. You got to get-
Starting point is 00:44:40 Yeah. If you're going to make a clean, you have to get the original raw verse too. What did you understand him to be saying something different I thought he was saying Something different What did you think I'm thinking He's assuming
Starting point is 00:44:49 That that is why They took that course of action He didn't confirm That that's why They took that course of action He's saying Under my assumption This is maybe why
Starting point is 00:44:57 We did this It was too raw Until the very very end He didn't give you Nothing that Couldn't have been On a gospel album until the end when he's talked about having sex and then i think he says some other curse word but that's it other
Starting point is 00:45:11 the other artists and features on this album said way more shit than this that could have gotten bleeped out easy this is up there for verse of the year yeah oh no verse the last couple years no this is this is this is this is this is it's different you know how i used to come in here and say and i used to say it kind of jokingly but not like the young girls don't have no bruises on them on their knees and shit like they just clean their skin everywhere and we all laugh oh my god what do you mean you stupid to wear it but this is what i mean by that this verse sounds like an aged dude that's just fell and got scars and bumps and got and it's here to tell you about it yeah and that sword is still getting too sharp and every time
Starting point is 00:45:56 i start saying this about three stacks i immediately go into well where do i rank big boy then if i'm doing all this and that's where the conversation gets convoluted and confusing three stacks is the second best rapper alive he's better than big boy well hear me out hear me out hear me out
Starting point is 00:46:18 you say he's the second best alive you say he's definitely better than big boy and this is not taking anything away from either one of them. But if Big Boy keeps up with Andre on every album, which is damn near impossible to do, and Big Boy puts out his own solo albums where he's rapping at a top tier on his projects. He has great solo albums, too.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Can Big Boy play the flute? What does flute got to do with rapping? I didn't ask you that. I asked you if you could play the flute. He might. I don't know. I don't know. to do with rapping? I didn't ask you that. I asked you if you could play the flute. He might. I don't know. I don't know. I'm just saying, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Okay. Andre was also producing a lot of this shit, too. Not for nothing. That's all I get. I just never understand the Big Boy oversight when mentioning Andre. Big Boy is also a genius. I'm going to tell you what I think. That when Eminem dropped that verse, and when he said Andre 3000's name
Starting point is 00:47:07 when he listed his top 10 or the greatest whatever at that point it was cemented people said yes 3K is this dude but it wasn't a mandatory he's listed in your top until Eminem dropped that verse I disagree wholeheartedly
Starting point is 00:47:21 because I don't even know what verse you're talking about so it definitely doesn't do it for atl he was inching up why was it just him is what i'm saying because what he does is rap better it's it's different that far off it ain't like like day and night with them you know it's not no big boy is amazing stop. Okay, I'll try my best to answer this for you. It seems that way because Andre scores from spots on the floor that Big Boy can't. Where Big Boy scores from, he's better than probably 97, 98% of all of those rappers. When we're just talking rapping and making music and making albums cool but when you start getting into the other elements of artistry the the funny dress the singing that the goosebumps
Starting point is 00:48:11 not the pace of the records bumps the goosebumps you know you know what it is like you know joe rapper so they start talking about getting in pockets and doing all of that trickety dickety shit. Like, he could do it. That mystery helps. What mystery? That Andre, that elusive quirkiness. Yeah, all of that. That I pop out
Starting point is 00:48:33 every now and then. No, no, no. I'm not, again, this is not a knock. It really isn't. I'm just saying there are things that Big Boy stayed consistent.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Big Boy's amazing. No, see, this is what you're saying is part of my beef about fucking J-Elec. Like, you're talking about three stacks. That's another. J-Elec pops out.
Starting point is 00:48:49 And we praise him when he pops out. And I be sitting here like, hey, man, nigga, it been a verse every... Nigga, no. Three stacks we can't do that with. No, you can't. That's almost...
Starting point is 00:48:59 Go on. You can't do that with... You can't do the two of them because at least three stacks gave you group projects. J-Elec ain't did none of projects. But he also gave me The Love Below. And while it's not a solo album. From a marketing standpoint.
Starting point is 00:49:14 It is a solo album. It is a solo album. Just because it wasn't marketed like a solo album. And if it were to be re-released today alone in the streaming era, how long is that album? It's an hour or something close to it. It could stand alone and it would do great. So that's my example of solo album when we start talking about him. It's a doozy.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Nah, he's just- That one is tough. He's different. That one is like- He can rap, rap, bro. That one is like miseducation in three stacks. Yeah. Yeah, like, yo, he can rap, rap.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Again, my thing is I listen to what niggas say. That nigga can rap, rap. And this is not like, I hate having the argument because I don't ever want to sound like you're taking anything away from Big Boi because he's incredible. And talking to some of my rap nerd friends, Pharoah, to be specific. Why do we do that in hip-hop?
Starting point is 00:49:59 I know, but look. We did it with Drake, Kanye. Let me get this point off. Let him land, let him land. I was talking to Pharoah about it one day. He's like, having a dude that's consistent next to you like that, he did with Prince Poe and Organized Confusion, allows you to do the extra weird shit.
Starting point is 00:50:12 That's true. That is true. And I don't think that the argument of putting Pharoah, Andre or Pharoah, for that matter, up here, should take away from where Big Boi or Prince Poe land at being incredible rappers. We don't have to do that. I have a great analogy. We don't have to do that i have
Starting point is 00:50:25 a great great we don't have to do that i think it's a great analogy that's true you could take andre right and you could call him michael jordan or you could call him steph curry the two you named i know oh oh oh look you're right again those two guys and Andre could be Michael Jordan or Steph Curry, right? And big boy could be Scottie Pippen or Klay Thompson. Klay Thompson's arguably the top five shooter of all time. It's nothing against them. Scottie Pippen is top 50 player of all time. It's nothing against them.
Starting point is 00:50:57 They're great. But you're talking about Michael Jordan and Steph Curry. Right. So that's the Andre. Big boy is that dude, man. But even in looking at that, right, there was rumors for years
Starting point is 00:51:07 about whatever went on between OutKast. None of, I can't say with any certainty what happened. He said it on the TI verse. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:51:14 What's that shit called? Sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry, yeah. What'd he say? Sorry, I fucked up all the tours. He broke it all the way down. Yeah, he went crazy.
Starting point is 00:51:20 That's incredible. That was one of my favorite 3,000 verses. Yeah. That and 16. Like, recent. That was, I think, a very nice way to tell us i'm sure yeah yeah but what i'm saying is even with that and how he handled that and with what little we know about that we can imagine how he feels about how this drake conje shit plays out to two people he love and how they're handling the dispute yeah and i'm old like i don't
Starting point is 00:51:46 want to be a part of that shit you know old niggas be seeking peace i know like i don't want nothing to do with the last thing i want is more bullshit yeah and i don't want my name and then i don't want to be in your bullshit yeah like if you're my bullshit like word you're gonna be on kanye diss track nigga i didn't know it was a diss track don't't shoot no fire this way. I don't want none of that. Even the fact he got to say that. Yeah. It's like, fam, I have to put a statement out.
Starting point is 00:52:09 That's true. He had to. I got to do this shit. Yeah, and I don't do that. I don't do this shit. I don't like talking to y'all. I'm not a public guy at all. I have to put a statement out now
Starting point is 00:52:17 because of y'all bullshit. True. I don't feel like being a part of this nonsense. For real. That shit is whack. How many times has Andre and Ho
Starting point is 00:52:26 been on the same song? I do. Of Jeezy's album. IDO. IDO. Yeah. I'm trying to think. It hasn't happened enough.
Starting point is 00:52:43 That might be it. It hasn't happened enough. That might be it. That hasn't happened enough. That might be it. It hasn't happened enough. That might be it. That might be the one. That might be it, yeah. And the original version had Drake on there too, but I don't know what happened. But yeah, that might be it. That should change.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Yeah. I don't know why that's happening like that, but that should change. That just might be it. I think, again, people's personalities sometimes don't mesh not saying that against them but again audrey 3000 is not the public guy i wouldn't be surprised too if because they kind of both p like hard knock life and uh quim and i were the same year there might have been some now we can't do this yet we're kind of in competition here again but throughout their history. You would think that
Starting point is 00:53:26 at some point. That was 15 years ago. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to do some research on this. I know that Hov has given. The utmost respect. I know he's said it
Starting point is 00:53:34 somewhere publicly. 3,000. Ew. Like the male version. Yeah. Warren Hill. He said it on
Starting point is 00:53:41 Star is Born. Yeah. Listen. That shit. No, that verse is ridiculous, though, still. And to this day, I think her mama knew, but let us explore. Miss Dondon, you see my father, please ask him why. He never married, always smiled, but was he happy inside?
Starting point is 00:54:03 Because I carry my mother's name, did he carry shame with him? I'm sure she did it out of spite, was her decision. Yo, he is fucking going crazy on this. While talking to Kanye's mother the entire verse. While talking to me. No, but I'm just saying, like, how do you structure a verse? This is the first time I got goosebumps from a song, and I don't remember how long. I was just having a conversation maybe two weeks ago with somebody.
Starting point is 00:54:26 I was listening to somebody. I was talking. I knew my new thing was trying to talk to people. And they were saying how they have their mom's last name. And they just said it quick. And it paused me up. I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. And you okay with that?
Starting point is 00:54:39 Was dad okay with that? Did you ever inquire about it? Did you never want to change your name? Women do it spitefully. I know. My daughter know my daughter that's like a big i know but we talked about that before too that's a big thing for me women do it spitefully he said it but that's a big thing for me because all right the name is the name but it's our blood it's dad blood in there so i mean you're just gonna wipe my name out and then what happens to my fam so for him to touch on this yeah and that is the song that his mother did it spitefully he said it she probably would hurt our baby too young she probably was her look wait the empathy
Starting point is 00:55:17 look yeah i'm sure she did two of y'all didn't know what y'all was doing y'all was yeah man for a young lady. No coincidence. They both passed away from heart conditions. There's a dissidence that played dad and mom. Crazy. I'm just kidding. Crazy. I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:55:32 There's a round of applause. Crazy. He's bugging. So look, up to this far, what on this particular masterpiece is perverted. That it can't reach the gospel. Maybe not bleeped out in terms of saying certain words, but he talked about smoking weed, fucking church, smoking a Bible study. Did y'all hear Lox's verses? Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:55:57 I agree with you. I agree with you. Did y'all hear the Lox's verses on this album? I didn't think about what they were saying that he said that it had to be presented both ways. And I didn't. about what they were saying that he said I had to be presented both ways and I didn't yeah The hard division Poster child for big dick niggas raised by their mothers I'm supposed to smile as if God knew that I would be trouble keeps me around for what I don't know But I do know that it's crucial that we do so pronto. I don't know how much longer
Starting point is 00:56:23 Mama your son in the red hat. Had some of the setbacks. Had shit in his head. That's how I made it. He tried. He tried. I like where he started. He lost it.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Yeah, but now he started going. He started going. He started going at the beginning, but then he lost it. He did. And Azalea Banks should be able to fly air. She should be able to air fly cats. Yo, why you always bringing up this girl? Let's just say shit that's not true.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Come on, let's do it. Just to be politically correct. He started going. PC. He took off. PC. He took off. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:56:59 He cut it down. He took off. He did take off. How long was the takeoff? Not long. Four bars. Yeah, it was a quick flight. Landing gear trouble.
Starting point is 00:57:09 We got to come back down. Grand opening, grand closing. Isn't this great? Her flight leaves at 8. Her flight lands at 9. This was like from Sumter to Columbia. This was motherfucking, this was D.C. to Virginia. This mother.
Starting point is 00:57:24 It's like when you go from a little crop duster plane from Boston to Whistler. Let me tell you the flight that Kanye took off Queens to Jersey. Jersey City to North. So listen, I know that Kanye is that dude. Yeah, Kanye is that dude.
Starting point is 00:57:39 But let me stop y'all. In no universe can Kanye do something with that. It's different levels to rap. I'm telling y'all something. He heard that shit and couldn't wait to hear it curse. Up, gotta go. That's my point.
Starting point is 00:57:57 No, don't take this shit off. Up, this is gospel, Dre. Sorry I didn't tell you. No. But what song? This is the crazy part. Nigga, Drake heard that shit and said, this cannot come out over there on good music.
Starting point is 00:58:07 I must do something about this. Drake said, yo. 40. Hold the candle line. Stop the candles. Put the candles away for a minute. Yo, we going live tonight. Yo.
Starting point is 00:58:19 He tried. He came in with all that. Listen, Kanye, you would have to wait a little while. You'd have to write some. Hey, you cons, all y'all would have had to Voltron some shit. And I still don't think. Let me hear where you was going, though. Let me hear.
Starting point is 00:58:31 He made 808, so he's everyone that know. He ever gets that ho. Tell Rome's father, sure, close my eyes. I can see more. No. Body punk in me. All right. Everyone, prepare to.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Put your seats up. Put your tray table away. Yeah, everyone, prepare to take a look at this. Put your seats up. Put your tray table away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The captain is talking seatbelt signs. Gather your belongings. Stay seated. I'll pray position and all that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Yo, they both be saying the same shit, Drake and Kanye. They both want to, over my see-thed body, I'm going to kill you, play with my business, and the motherfucking, like. Are either one of them trying to hurt a child? Like, why do they keep saying that shit? He might not be talking to Drake. I like this approach, though, Kanye. Let me talk to you directly since your engineer can't do it
Starting point is 00:59:27 engineer couldn't say nothing back he's been up for 33 hours what do you want from him he's trying to get some shut up yo yo you know and you know that's true cause he was supposed to be up at 730
Starting point is 00:59:40 and woke up at 11 he's exhausted you running a fucking slave camp over there. You're having to mix vocals, make Adidas, make clogs. You ain't got these niggas making everything over there.
Starting point is 00:59:56 The elves. I'm serious. You ain't got the engineer giving Justin Laboy some girly quotes. Respectfully, though. He's running a sweatshop. I forgot the point I was making. Niggas in there making clogs and beats at the same time.
Starting point is 01:00:15 When it was time. Don't tear a hole in that shirt. He told me. Turn me up and tear a hole. Turn me up and tear a hole. Turn me up and tear a hole. No, but this is the funniest four texts in a row ever. Good morning. Less work.
Starting point is 01:00:31 You're fired. Go home. Stop texting. Go find God. Kanye, you can't be the religious guy and tell people. You can't tell people to go find God passive aggressively. You can't be the religious guy and tell people. You can't tell people to go find God passive aggressively. You can't use God. See, and that's my point about you niggas,
Starting point is 01:00:49 just finding trendy shit and not really being about, stop, look what you got 3K into. And no, the crazy part is you so religious and you start talking about your dick and cursing and all that other shit in the verse. He started talking about his dick and niggas better stop playing with me and they could kiss my dick man fam see spam said on gd you claim it that too that's i didn't even think about that part yeah you took it you took it he's talking about the gangsters disciples i'm putting this on GD. What the fuck is you? You a gangbanger?
Starting point is 01:01:26 I don't know. I can't keep up. The merch did have a six-pointed star on it. Things is starting to click. A lot of that shit, yeah. Things starting to click. The logo for the album had it. Some shit's starting to click. The logo for the album had it.
Starting point is 01:01:39 That ain't my place. Yeah, I didn't take any of that from Larry Hoover. Nah. When there was a 30-minute break on the album to free Larry Hoover, I was like, oh. Oh, y'all ain't watch the last listening joint he did, the one in Chicago, right?
Starting point is 01:02:03 Mm-mm. Bam. Had a record on there called GD Anthem. And all the record kept saying was, y'all don't let the GDs in the building. That's the whole song. Oh, that's like Jocelyn shit. Do it like it's my B-day, baby.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Do it like it's my B-day. But she kept repeating it. Don't do that, because somebody should have played that on my birthday. Y'all dropped the ball. We had all. That was them. Y'all kept playing Stevie Wonder shit.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Where was Jocelyn? And I was doing it like, come on, fuck. Anyway. Yeah, yeah, no. Please stop. What did GD, what did GD do? Yeah, he had the GD anthem
Starting point is 01:02:34 on the- I'm staying out of GD business. I don't know who's in the house. He said it. He said it on the show. He said it on the show. And he's going to say it.
Starting point is 01:02:42 I ain't saying nothing. No, no, no. Told Drake, don't play with me on the GD. What about my business? But you're the Christian guy. There could be Christians. No, but Christians need.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Christian gangs? Gangs. I don't know. Yeah. Christians. That's the name of the gang. Jesus Christ is their big homie. That's the name
Starting point is 01:03:05 of the gang nigga can I y'all can keep talking about this nah I'm just saying like I like to me that's
Starting point is 01:03:12 so you can't put Andre 3000's verse on there because you making a gospel album and you holier than thou but on the same exact track
Starting point is 01:03:20 you telling people to kiss your dick okay now now let me if if I am to believe your argument that that's not kanye's final verse and maybe i was just bullshitting on that and y'all wasn't supposed to hear that y'all not supposed to know i'm the hypocrite true you're not supposed to know
Starting point is 01:03:37 you saw something you wasn't supposed to say i mean yeah we know that no you know but you know forget what the world knows you know and if you living in your truth, your quote unquote truth, and you going by these criteria that there could be no curses and there shouldn't be none of this stuff on the album, you wouldn't even be writing a verse like this. I'm a billionaire. Name a billionaire that's not evil. It's not going to do what they want to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:01 They are that. What Park said, I don't know about evil. Evil is a little stretch, but it's... A lot of them be evil, too, though. Yeah. There's some shit behind it. There's broke niggas that be evil. That's it.
Starting point is 01:04:12 I get that. So I'm not... And I don't subscribe to that neither. I don't subscribe to that. Every person that, when you amass a certain amount of wealth, that it turns you into something evil. I don't... Oh, I didn't mean that way.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Oh, you said all of them. Yeah yeah but i mean like there was something if you dig back far enough there's some evil shit in there in that wealth to obtain that wealth it's new billionaires dig back into them too there's some shit there that's all i'm saying some shit there i mean a lot of them yeah but i don't subscribe to all of them. But again, with him doing this, I think that 3,000 shit was so fire that him being a narcissist that he is didn't put that shit on him. That's what I personally believe. It's possible. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Again, dog, the album is named Out Your Mom. Fam. See, I got to disagree with that. And he bodied it. Got to disagree with that. How did that not make the cut? I don't think it's for that reason because he got out rapped by jay leck he got out rapped by every single on this album every single
Starting point is 01:05:10 every single one of them let's be real bars they did so if i'm if i'm feeling that that yo he he killed it so bad i can't put this out first off i got he got out right by favio right yeah he did so if i'm not feeling that favio verse like everybody else just hear me out he bodied it I got He got out rapped by Fabio Right Yeah he did So If I'm gonna get out I'm not feeling that Fabio verse Like everybody else is But just hear me out He bodied it If I'm gonna get out rapped by somebody
Starting point is 01:05:31 You'd rather it be him And that's nothing against Fabio No that makes sense That makes sense I want it by somebody That's on everybody's goat list That makes sense So yeah
Starting point is 01:05:40 I put this out If that's the case If that's the reasoning for It makes sense What you're saying makes sense yeah yeah I can't make sense like yeah
Starting point is 01:05:48 if I'm gonna get out there was something else I think it was incomplete I really think that he was still working on this shit I think with Kanye and his whole living art thing we ain't done with the Donda album
Starting point is 01:05:58 that might be true too that might be true which is why he was over there in Europe which is why Drake got that shit up out of here real quick previewing the verse for people. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Because he previewed the verse one day. And then the very next night, Drake said, nah, we're not waiting for whatever you're doing. It's coming out now. I'm going to throw a monkey wrench in your shit. Yeah, I'm going to throw a monkey wrench in your shit. Makes sense. I don't know if that was a great play. By Drake or by...
Starting point is 01:06:22 By Drake. I don't see what the point was. I'm glad you didn't. I'm glad the point was. I'm glad you didn't. I'm glad we got it. I'm glad you got it. The point was literally... You don't see what the point was. Even though we've heard stories now that that wasn't the case,
Starting point is 01:06:33 but the same thing that happened with the Pusha T and Drake shit when allegedly Drake had some whole Adidas line lined up for his son ready to go and Pusha throws the monkey ring. I'm putting your plans out there. Whatever's on your big whiteboard I'm throwing it out To fuck your plans up
Starting point is 01:06:47 Because I know You're a calculated machine Over there You work by a certain way So I want to throw a wrench in there And fuck you up In any way I can And what's going on here
Starting point is 01:06:56 Tell him about When I hit you and say W-Y-D You just better have my verse ready I'm writing everything I'm writing everything you need What's wrong? Who are you talking to? I didn't get that one I don't know ready. I'm writing everything you need. What's wrong?
Starting point is 01:07:07 Who are you talking to? I didn't get that one. I don't know. He ain't saying that to the boy. I think he's saying that to the boy. I think the boy just starting to have fun.
Starting point is 01:07:16 He might have said that to the boy. I think he said that to the boy. I think that You can't talk to me like that. You can't talk to me like that you can't talk to me like that
Starting point is 01:07:25 what are you talking about I'ma be I'ma keep it a buck with you when I hit you and say W-Y-D you just better have my fire ass verse ready boy
Starting point is 01:07:33 yes sir I'm writing everything you need I'm writing everything you need yes sir I got more slaps than the Beatles no no no yes sir though don't yes sir I'm writing everything you need
Starting point is 01:07:41 you been hanging out with fucking Donald Trump and you start the verse where's my red hat like what are you talking about I think Drake's coming out with fucking Donald Trump, and you start the verse, where's my red hat at? Like, what are you talking about? I think Drake's coming out with an album way sooner than y'all are saying. Me too.
Starting point is 01:07:51 I think Kanye is, too, when that engineer get back home. Well, he probably is. He's probably asleep. I got something for y'all. Yo, Drake. I'm mad. What else you want to buy? I think if a Kanye album drop, it all next month.
Starting point is 01:08:03 We about to get a whole good music rollout again. Yeah, remember Good Fridays? We back. We back. Good Sunday. You're going to tell an engineer to find God and your songs be safe.
Starting point is 01:08:12 And I know the nigga that's beating. Come on, man. And this nigga's beefing with you? Nah, I think Drake got another album in the tub.
Starting point is 01:08:19 That owl. I don't want to talk about these niggas no more. I don't. What Ice just said about he might have had some pressure on him just to give niggas something. I know he did.
Starting point is 01:08:30 And y'all saying that he'd been in the studio with his team for the better part of a year and a half, two years. You're not releasing that. I agree. Boy Wonder wasn't on the Drake album. Also. But he was on Kanye's album. T-Minus wasn't either.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Vinyls wasn't either. I think Vinyls did do a co-production on one of them. On the Drake shit? Yeah. I forgot what record, but. Okay. I mean. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Yeah, I think Drake was in the top. Still weird. Still weird. Still weird. I think they're going to beef the rest of the fourth quarter. I'm not mad at it. Keep it going. As a fan?
Starting point is 01:09:01 I mean. As a fan, yeah. Why would I be mad at this? People are tired of it. I would like to get some. Well, there hasn't been anything super amazing. No, you know why people might be tired of it? Because it's not translating into dope-ass music.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Oh, but see, if they have more fun, I won't care. If Drake just fuel up the jet and circle around Kanye's little quiet house for 10 hours. That's funny to me. That's funny to me. That's fun for me. Or just ping his location in Wisconsin somewhere. Like, that's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Just troll a nigga now. Or send the kids to fucking Wisconsin like you did to me. Send them bad ass kids over there just throw some paint on all his little
Starting point is 01:09:40 minimalist furniture. He ain't sending them kids, man. Stop that shit. That was a great day. Well, they came to my house. I know. And I went to their house. All right.
Starting point is 01:09:51 I chased them. And what does Kendrick have to say? Yeah, we caught them little niggas. What? We got the block off. I told Joe, I said, if he tap his brakes one time, I got him.
Starting point is 01:10:00 I do this. Let him tap his brakes. As long as I see him. Get out the car. We got him. Yeah, that was fun. All right. What does Mr. Let him tap his brakes. As long as I see him. Get out the car. We got him. Yeah, that was fun. All right, what does Mr. Kendrick have to say about all of this? Several songs that popped up, registered.
Starting point is 01:10:11 That means? We've seen this before, though. I feel like, who was it? They did this with someone else, and I don't think any of the songs came out. Someone just registered some shit. These songs are not coming out. Yeah. This is just, hey, I'm here.
Starting point is 01:10:24 I don't know. Someone might have just registered some names. Kendrick just, hey, I'm here. I don't know. Someone might have just registered some names. Kendrick, I'll tell you this much. You better have a fire rollout after the shit I just watched
Starting point is 01:10:31 over the last two months. Drake. Fam, I gotta give Drake more credit because if that was the album, what the fuck you put this stupid ass
Starting point is 01:10:39 heart in your head all year for? I'll tell you why. He tricked the shit out of me. You ain't been on Instagram lately? No Oh no they putting hearts
Starting point is 01:10:47 In their heads now That's why he did it They follow all his stupid shit I'm seeing a whole bunch of posts Of dudes with hearts in their heads I still don't know I said if the album was hard I'd have got a heart in the beard
Starting point is 01:10:57 But I don't know why This album is called Certified Lover Boy You got the Beijing heart up there? Niggas They have a sharpie right here I'll do it Let me beijing heart up there niggas i have a sharpie right here i'll do it yeah but i'm just saying i and i still haven't quite figured out why this album is called
Starting point is 01:11:13 certified love a boy either no idea yeah i don't get that tricked me yeah you think you would everything tricked me the album cut like this is all this ain't it enough that what we've talked about enough enough all right talked about enough enough enough enough enough enough enough you right
Starting point is 01:11:28 shout out to J. Cole and Entree 3000 yeah that's rustic listen it's only September and I got Nas
Starting point is 01:11:36 an album of the year I got Cole an album of the year I got Ye an album of the year and there's some more I'm forgetting cause I don't remember everything that came out but I had somebody else Golden Album of the Year. I got Yay! An Album of the Year.
Starting point is 01:11:46 And there's some more I'm forgetting. God, I don't remember everything that came out. But I had somebody else in there. I was keeping a count. Oh, Tyler, for sure. Tyler. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:55 This is heating up. I told you that when Tyler dropped. And then Kendrick's got to be in there somewhere when he drops. When he drops. And if he drops last,
Starting point is 01:12:08 the awards will be fresher for him. Well, he can't get the awards, not the Grammys. We passed it. Well, he would have to drop like now. The deadline, I think. No, the deadline passed. I think it's September 1st. No, they will move the deadline. They'll move the deadline for Kendrick?
Starting point is 01:12:18 You think so? They changed the rule for chance. They would move the deadline for Kendrick. We'll see Kendrick calling niggas up. Yo, I'm dropping next week, man. Yo, my album is in this year. They're going to send for Kendrick. We'll see Kendrick Cohen. I'm dropping next week. My album is in this year.
Starting point is 01:12:28 They're going to say I'm going to go run it to the board but I'm pretty sure I can get you a win. I'll text you in an hour and let
Starting point is 01:12:34 you know if that win is. You're performing right. You're performing right. As long as Macklemore don't
Starting point is 01:12:38 have an album coming. Don't do that. Why are you always doing that? Don't do it because Macklemore is a great guy. He is a great guy. I don't care bro sorry no that don't do it cause Macklemore's a great guy
Starting point is 01:12:45 he is a great guy I don't care bro oh my god you don't care that people are great guys that has nothing to do with album of the year over good kid mad city bro
Starting point is 01:12:55 I don't care how great of a guy you are it has nothing to do with that that is probably one of the greatest albums ever it really does it really does have a lot
Starting point is 01:13:03 to do with being a good guy though I know you don't want to hear it cause you think it's music based but that's your fault I know it's not music albums ever. It really does. It really does have a lot to do with being a good guy, though. I know you don't want to hear it because you think it's music-based, but that's your fault for thinking that. No, I know it's not music-based. That's still your fault for thinking that.
Starting point is 01:13:11 There's definitely a lot of relationships. His politics. That's not a good... I don't mean you're a great guy. That's all I mean. You being a great guy is not your relationships.
Starting point is 01:13:18 You think the fans picked the number one video on 106 and Park? No, Joe. I know you're lying. No, I don't believe the fans. I know all your raps. You can't hit me with that.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Yeah, you said you don't think that being a great guy has anything to do with relationships? There go some muffins. I'm not even trying to. You let him get
Starting point is 01:13:38 the Dunkin' Donuts. We don't even have an oven in this studio, but he's still got muffins. If I got the right people in my corner, that doesn't necessarily mean I'm a great guy.
Starting point is 01:13:45 That's what I'm saying. Oh. That's all. Your team might be great guys. Yeah, my team can be great and have the right people in their pockets. And so we're clear, Macklemore's team at the time was great. Great guys. Yeah, they're great guys.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Great guys, great relationships. I didn't mean that to be like some Macklemore's trash. That don't mean him being a great guy or not a great guy is not what got that award. I know I just feel bad because he's such a great guy. I'm sure he didn't ask to give it to me over Kendrick. That's where it's fucked up. And then everybody shitted on him. And he came out and said, yo, I probably think Kendrick deserves it.
Starting point is 01:14:17 That makes it worse. That doesn't help. They doubled down on the shit. And then we never saw him again. Never. You'd pop out if you want to. He just left. He just run out. Where is Macklemore? Shout out to Macklemore. My really doubled down on this shit. And then we never saw him again. Never. You'd pop out if you wanted to. He just left. He just run out.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Where is Macklemore? Shout out to Macklemore. My 20, 30, 40 million. And where is Internet? The group. Oh, shit. And where is Ray Swimmer? And Sway Lee.
Starting point is 01:14:35 That's what I'm pissed off about. We had a whole pandemic year. We back outside, and I got no Ray Swimmer. I apologize, because that's my fault. Fans, Parks, I know you a big Swimmer fan. Say mine. I apologize, because that's my fault. Fans, Parks, I know you're a big Schwimmer fan. Say, man, I'm sorry, because I did that.
Starting point is 01:14:49 We ain't heard from him since he put that little Tupac ass out. He put that little Tupac out, tried to heat the streets up in the spring. We was like... Nah, you know what happened?
Starting point is 01:15:00 I'm going to tell you. They dropped the record with Fritch, the Unforgettable. And then he was like, yo, I got 40 more of those. Oh, yeah. Then they stole his laptop. I think it is true.
Starting point is 01:15:13 They stole his laptop. Yo, can we tell? That was it. I'm throwing it right back to you. Right back to you. Rappers. Your laptop is important, yo. Yo, I don't know why they never. Keep that on you. It's important, yo. They never realized that. They make cool important, yo. Yo, I don't know why they never-
Starting point is 01:15:25 Keep that on you. Important, yo. They never realized that. They make cool bags, too. Like, you can do it fly. Super cool. All the designers got a bag you can put your laptop in. Actually, you can just keep all the things in a drive in your bag, which is very small.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Royce loves his bag with his laptop and everything and that shit. We was on tour one time. Like, all the new music for like Bar Exam or something that was anticipated he just screamed on Keno the whole time Keno you better find
Starting point is 01:15:51 that book bag it's nice to have a manager you can just black on yo go get my shit I think they found it though yeah people gotta stop doing that somebody else lost their laptop
Starting point is 01:15:59 had to pay to get it back it was uh Ryan Leslie yeah yeah and you know he had the fouls it Oh, no, it was on there. He had the fouls in there. And he had everybody fouls.
Starting point is 01:16:08 His, Rico Love's. No, he done written some shit for everybody. Where's we going just now? I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know, nigga. Following you. My dumb ass. All right, well, let's follow you for a little bit.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Did you have fun out with us on Friday? It was regular. Normal shit. It's the same shit all the time. No, it was Joe's birthday weekend. Yeah, my birthday weekend, Labor Day weekend. Nothing was different. No, I'm talking about the scenery.
Starting point is 01:16:39 You want different scenery? What did you expect? You do. Listen, all jokes aside, you do kind of want different scenery, though. I feel you. You know what I'm saying? I would catch him.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Once you know everybody... You could tell me that. Why? Once you... Yo, what? This nigga's so ignorant. Yo, every Wednesday it ain't the same?
Starting point is 01:17:03 It's close to the same. Every Friday, same lineup for the most part. Every Saturday, same lineup for the most part. That's why when you go to different spots, it changes the scenery. I got a new reality show coming. It's called Try to Get a Drink from the Bartender. You win a prize. No, I swear.
Starting point is 01:17:28 We sat back. No, it's bad. It was like, yo, just look, look, no no we sat back no it's bad it was like yo just look no no it's bad shorty had a leg up on the bar she found out phone out like okay no she had a leg up on the bar it's one sign she didn't want to work then she had a band-aid on her ass one of the little circular band-aids another sign you shouldn't have been at work. Then your hair was a mess. And now I'm feeling gay for recognizing these things. Because I shouldn't recognize these things. I should just be happy, but your hair is a girl. Bitch.
Starting point is 01:18:02 Girl. Bitch. I mean so and then she's on the phone the whole time multiple of them
Starting point is 01:18:11 on the phone the whole time it was a little gang up with me FaceTiming dudes and then they be doing Twitter Instagram
Starting point is 01:18:16 they doing you still ice thirsty as hell ice thirsty he is so parched in there I'm just staring at him laughing right
Starting point is 01:18:22 and then I noticed she already got three broken nails, two broken nails. This shouldn't mean anything, right? It means something. That meant a lot to me. It means a lot. That meant a lot to me.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Am I bougie now? No, that's not bougie. That should mean something, right? It means something. But why it didn't mean nothing to her? I'm going to tell you why. Because it's Labor Day weekend. I was just getting ready to say that.
Starting point is 01:18:44 And also paint the scene because like a certain bar that might be cool like a more of a dive bar neighborhood bar you're not really looking for you have work no but I think
Starting point is 01:18:52 she wasn't just stop going to the bar if she's a bartender at a dive bar yeah yeah if she's a bartender at a dive bar then that might be hip
Starting point is 01:18:57 yeah it's whatever you are at the premier strip club in New York City or one of them in New Jersey just anywhere you're at a strip club where you're expected. Or one of them in New Jersey. Just anywhere. You had a strip club
Starting point is 01:19:06 where you expected them to break bread. And you want people to pay you. And you got two broke nails. A bad do. And you not paying attention to niggas.
Starting point is 01:19:17 See, now it's funny. I complain when I ask dollars, right? And I'll move off of this because a lot of y'all don't give a fuck about strip clubs. You say,
Starting point is 01:19:24 all they fuckers with a strip head yes yeah pretty much that's what happened damn I was about to say oh both sides of the spectrum two broke nails I'm like yeah like I can't pay you you ain't put no pride into yourself showing up for work I ain't about to go get single you sitting here looking like you got attitude y'all ain't said hello to nobody y'all skip just the showing up for work. I ain't about to go get single. You're sitting here looking like you got an attitude. Y'all ain't said hello to nobody. Y'all skipped just the basic courtesy course. Word.
Starting point is 01:19:48 So cool, I can't pay you. Installers sometimes I'll complain because they have a mandate. They don't even let you on the floor without makeup, hair,
Starting point is 01:20:00 nails, outfits. You gotta get right to even bartend over here so sometimes you be there and you be like oh look at her face all caked up
Starting point is 01:20:08 I wanna see something natural but no not happening there no that ain't playing I felt bougie I don't take it as bougie though
Starting point is 01:20:18 like I mean come on if I'm here to spend some money we're spending the kind of money you're spending this is my thing I don't care about your hair I don't care about your hair.
Starting point is 01:20:26 I don't care about your nails. But if you got bad hair and bad nails, you supposed to have the best customer service on the planet. I care about your bar etiquette. Yeah. It is your responsibility to make sure I have a cool time at this bar. Yo, I spilled something at the bar because I'm clumsy. She missed it. I'm sitting there grabbing napkins from behind the bar, cleaning it myself.
Starting point is 01:20:45 All of it. I'm like, wait, what? Man, me and a couple of the homies was trying to just, we were going to take a shot together, right? So we're like, yo, let me get around the shots. We waving. Right. Yo, wave over there.
Starting point is 01:20:55 That bartender didn't maybe. That shouldn't happen. Yeah, not at all. Especially in the bars be little as fuck. Right. You get what I'm saying? It's not some long ass bar. In New Jersey.
Starting point is 01:21:04 And we got money. In New Jersey. No, no, no. The bars are little. Hey, deeper than that. Right. You get what I'm saying? It's not some long-ass bar in New Jersey. And we got money. In New Jersey. No, no, no. The bars are little. Hey, deeper than that, yes, people are all right and blessed. Deeper than that,
Starting point is 01:21:14 Ish is 40-whatever and I'm 41 and you're not at Spring Chicken. Neither is Parks, right? But me and Ish for sure know the lineage of bartenders.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Yeah. We know from twos know from 2001 to now. We know when you're doing good in the shit, when you might not be doing good. You bitches that be trying to get us. Yeah. Like, I wish I could tell y'all about me. They don't know, though. I want to tell them about me, though.
Starting point is 01:21:41 They don't know. No, they don't know. They don't know. They don't even know that. Like, they knew they don't know they don't even know that like they brand new half of them they are so again even what you're speaking on that shit is even doesn't exist to do but i went to three strip clubs this weekend i saw a lot of women had a jewelry on this weekend a lot of jewelry on no no like drug dealer jewelry they are the female version of drug dealers.
Starting point is 01:22:08 But wait, then I said, and I'm there as a customer that wants to spend. Then I said, I can't pay you. You got more than me? Not you got more than me. I understand how the circulation of money works in a strip club. And you doing that? I'm going to go give my card to get the money to give it back. of money works in a strip club and you doing that, I'm going to go give my card to get the money
Starting point is 01:22:28 to give it back to that for you to show up with the big rapper chain on. You look like you got more money than every customer at your bar. How could somebody pay you? That's $60,000 Cartier's, fam. And some of them invisible set cartiers are 75
Starting point is 01:22:48 80 grand i'm looking at you now you got your jewelry on and all i can hear is my accountant's voice in my head telling me to fucking put all my money to the 80 year old trust to my life and whatever that is where and i'm like yo does this this nigga know? 80? Chill out, Joe. Don't start. I ain't. I ain't. Thank you. But I'm saying,
Starting point is 01:23:09 look at what gotta happen for you to wanna live. I gotta push the money back till I'm 90? Yeah. He say it like he thought of some genius shit. Oh, watch this move
Starting point is 01:23:17 when you're 85. Roscoe. Last thing I'm worried about at 85 is that 7 million over there I love those guys I love those guys alright
Starting point is 01:23:31 now they getting it and they showing it they getting it now they getting it yeah they want niggas to know I got more money than you but that's not
Starting point is 01:23:44 I don't know if that's a good idea. It's a bad idea. It's like leaking the three-stack verse. But I think they competing, I think they competing with each other. I was just getting ready
Starting point is 01:23:52 to say that. They not doing it for the customers. They be doing it for the other girls. They showing the rest of the chicks, y'all ain't on this level.
Starting point is 01:23:58 I was going to suggest a preemptive outstanding here. Yeah. Oh, man. Playing that early. In the front of this one. Hey. Turn it Oh, man. Playing that early. In the front of this one. Hey! Turn it up, too.
Starting point is 01:24:08 All right. Put it off long enough. I even came in here to the second Drake deep dive. We stayed on the three stacks verse. No, appropriately. Appropriately long. Because that was that type of verse. But, man, yesterday was real.
Starting point is 01:24:24 Two days ago was really really really tough and yesterday was tough it's all been really tough these podcasts for me are some of the more difficult ones to do because i'd be wanting to grieve just to myself right like you'd be wanting that to be sacred everything shouldn't be just for a public showing right and when you really grieving and going through it you can't even pick up your phone because everybody is posting the picture or the video of the person that you love that you lost uh for those of you just joining us we're talking about michael k williams uh father brother actor activist dancer K Williams, father, brother, actor, activist, dancer, poet. Genius.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Genius. And that's just the thing, man. I'll tell a story that has nothing to do with nothing. And I'll try to make it come full circle somehow. Right? Actually, I'll turn this back on. It's not one of them type of stories. It's not that important.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Um, actually, I will turn this on. Um, my mom tells me a story about when I was really, really young, maybe second grade or some shit. And she was around my dad's mom down south, Sumter, South Carolina. She's around my grandma, rest in peace to Grandma Jimmy. Right. And I just got a really good report card. Smoked that shit. She went to my grandma, ranting and raving, just really ecstatic and excited that I had a really good report card. And she said my grandma got real down and almost this saddened look on her face and my mom couldn't understand why. So she asked her. And my grandma, without trying to quote her because I don't remember, said something to the effect of, he's pretty bright.
Starting point is 01:26:25 All of my sons were really, really, really, really bright. And they all excelled in school. And it got bad later. That sign of genius to my grandma, and not genius, but that sign of intelligence that early struck fear in her because of what she went through with my dad and my uncles. And I think later on, my mom grew to understand her point there. And as I continue to live life, I understand it as well. it as well in me understanding it like it gives uh you live with like this paranoia this this PTSD this like again my ice when you send me the old Chris Brown project uh X-Files DEP I was real worried about him I was worried I came I came in here and talked about it.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Big Sean, when I start to hear certain things that he was saying, I got really worried about him, the person. I carry that with the musicians. Even Drake on the intro, again, yet another intro, he's saying, I'm hurt, I'm alone, I have despair, I'm dark inside. He's saying it. Artists say it all the time just seeing somebody
Starting point is 01:27:47 and we miss it so because of this right and where I'm going with this is Michael K. Williams was nothing short of genius and I don't say that because he killed the Omar Little role
Starting point is 01:28:03 and he killed the other I don't say this because of killed the Omar little role and he killed the other. I don't say this because of that. I watched The Wire late. Same. I didn't watch The Wire when it was out. When did The Wire come out? O2. O2.
Starting point is 01:28:15 Yeah, O2. We looked that up. Yeah, we deep dived on that one last week. That was the first season? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Mm hmm. Yeah. So my introduction to Mike wasn't the same as wasn't the same as the rest of the world because I missed all of this.
Starting point is 01:28:39 But I heard you all sing his praises. And when I finally caught up, I understood. But I still don't think I had met him when I watched The Wire. I hadn't met him yet. How did I meet Mike? How did I meet Mike? How did I meet Mike? Back to the fucking Monopoly gods. How did I meet Mike?
Starting point is 01:29:04 That's how I met Mike, Reverend Ron, let me tell you my, let me tell you how I learned that Michael K. Williams was a genius, let's start there, and I'm just going to talk, y'all could jump in at any point, I'll probably need y'all to help carry me through this, I probably need y'all the fans as well to help carry me through this um this is around what was i don't know those pills i was a lot of pills dark dark time dark time those pills like altoid case full of pills and when i say, I mean all of 30, 40, 50. I copped in bulk. All different types too. All different types,
Starting point is 01:29:52 all different times, and I needed those, I thought. When I finally got off, my body went through these withdrawals that I did sweats, hard to go to sleep. It was tough, right? And I'm'm saying I'm highlighting that this is before the fentanyl takeover I'm highlighting that because boy do I thank God
Starting point is 01:30:13 that I was able to do something about it before the fentanyl takeover for real because today I can't imagine how dangerous and scary it is. And we just keep hearing it and seeing it. And if you're in this business, you probably keep seeing it happen to people that we're really, really, really fond of. I was fucked up in 09, somewhere back there. And my mom was going to church. And she did what any mom would try to do. She said, come to church and she did what any mom would try to do. She said, come to church.
Starting point is 01:30:47 And I didn't really want to come to church, but the pastor, New Jersey legend, Reverend Ron, rest in peace, he wasn't the typical pastor. No, he not.
Starting point is 01:30:59 No way in the air. No. Oh yeah, y'all know Ron. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Ron wasn't your typical pastor uh and as you heard on the intro that was him he kind of spoke for the message and not the messenger he spoke for he spoke to the church accepting all sinners and when he spoke like that he made me feel right at home it wasn't the typical gospel
Starting point is 01:31:26 biblical he was really talking and he himself had been outside his own issues and he would tell you now he'll tell you in a heartbeat last time i saw him somebody i forgot somebody walked behind him like that he didn't really know he's like yo, bro. I don't really like other men walking behind me, dog. Nick said, yo, I've been locked up too much. My state number's blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So, everybody started laughing. Dude walked in behind him again. He was like, yo, bro, I'm serious.
Starting point is 01:31:58 Like, I ain't playing. I don't really like when niggas walk behind me. Like, I'm institutionalized. When people walk behind you you know you've been in jail you be getting tensed up he's like bruh i don't don't do that no more please just a preacher dog like your dog don't walk behind me like i don't know you don't walk i ain't with that so yeah he'll let you know what his path was or his walk of life was. And because of that approach and because of that style, he attracted an audience unlike one I have ever seen in church. It was dudes in there that looked like me.
Starting point is 01:32:35 Yeah, it was people that I found out in the hood that was going up there to the church. Street niggas. No, I know street niggas that was giving them money. That's what I'm talking about. And I'm like, yo come up With the Christian love I'm like wait You go there too Sure enough
Starting point is 01:32:48 I don't even think You went to church Sure enough And we laughed before When I talked about The other church Hillsong When everybody's cracking jokes
Starting point is 01:32:55 It's kind of like that But in a white mix version Like Reverend Ron's shit Was the hood The hood Like the hood Again like hustlers Hustlers Would be like yo i ain't coming
Starting point is 01:33:08 in rev but hold that i like what you're doing like yo hold that i like what you're doing you know i'm saying like that so again we in the black community we doubters right like we we full of doubters like when when you start winning over the jokers the downtrodden or the niggas that's on the other side, that speaks volumes. You know what I'm saying? Like, again, because we're so untrusting, if that's a word.
Starting point is 01:33:33 That's a word. It takes a lot to get through to us. You know what I mean? Like, you got to really jump over barbed wire gates to get to us because our neighborhoods are so fucked up and we look at everybody like nigga you up to something right so when you could get to the hustlers you could
Starting point is 01:33:50 get to the street niggas you could get to the niggas that's scamming themselves you you're doing something so rest in peace to him he yeah he was kind of fly he was a fly dude i went to that church well no my mom went to that church and she fell in love with Ron not romantically of course there's idiots out there
Starting point is 01:34:11 I know she fell in love with him so much that she tried to spread that word to anybody with ears in New Jersey
Starting point is 01:34:19 yo church this Sunday it was like the brunch it was like the hospital yo it really was it was like yo what session's like the hospital like it really was like yo eight what session we at eight yeah nine we have 11 30 like it was one of those
Starting point is 01:34:31 and my mom is like a helper like she can't help it she can't help it so she's sitting there listening to Reverend Ron every fucking Sunday and I'm sitting there listening when I would show up and I guess somehow it dawns on my mom well shit if he's doing all this helping the people and I'm sitting there listening when I would show up and I guess somehow it dawns on my mom, well, shit, if he's doing all this helping to people and I'm listening to him, well, who's helping him? Valid question. Great question. So, of course, they organize
Starting point is 01:34:56 and I see Michael K. Williams at the church. But that don't tell me nothing. Oh, shit. It's the Wired dude right Omar so cool yeah super cool dude super cool dude and he had this scar in his face and I'm a fan of scars I think that they cut stories age experience come from this like I'm when somebody has a scar on their face, I'm glued.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Like I might be staring at pictures of Maino a long time just from a scar. Just imagining what that was like in jail or what you went through. Same with Michael K. Williams. He got the scar, so you fixated on it. But you didn't ask where it comes from. I didn't know shit like that.
Starting point is 01:35:44 And you see this scar, and as you're looking at this scar, you're seeing like this beautiful, beautiful, beautiful black skin, like this man's skin was, you had to stare, I'm bringing it up,
Starting point is 01:36:00 because typically, you look at people's eyes, and they skin, when you see them, you kind of get a they wait no matter what struggles he may or may not have been going through his skin always look beautiful maybe his eyes was piercing but his voice and his words and the thing he said things he said so i just kept seeing michael Williams at church and then the reverend's going
Starting point is 01:36:25 through things and now some type of way through the grace of God we end up having now we have after meetings at church we have after meetings at church now and maybe I shouldn't even talk about the after meetings because that's how private they was but it was a select chosen few of us that was dying. Yeah, we was fucked up. And we shared shit in there that we probably don't share nowhere, man. The reverend is talking. You just stood in the church.
Starting point is 01:37:05 nowhere man the Reverend is talking you just stood in the church you just stood to church and heard the Reverend save hundreds of people and then you go in this office and lock the door after they close and niggas start getting a demons out and Ron did it and I did it Mike did it my my mom did it there's maybe seven other people there and then that's what was happening and I'm sitting there and I'm like oh shit this guy goes through he's going through
Starting point is 01:37:37 oh shit, oh no we understand each other on a deeper level this ain't just he acting and this guy's going through some shit I fell in love because you relate to struggle like if your struggle can identify with somebody else's struggle and you see how they're coping with it and you see you see how they're bodying shit out of this guy. He was killing shit, but he was in pain. And I seem to have this ability
Starting point is 01:38:09 to be able to spot that guy in a fucking crowd. It's heavy. I fell in love with Mike in the meetings, man. And I watched him closely from there. And it wasn't no wire, and I'm a nigga still,
Starting point is 01:38:27 so at some point you say, I wonder how niggas is getting money. You know what I mean? You bump into Mike in the church one more, hey Mike, what's going on? Yo, I'm heading over to Egypt or wherever the fuck he was going. He was traveling.
Starting point is 01:38:43 He was active. He was doing mad shit. He said, I'm going over there, third world country niggas, fuck that, they need us, blah, blah, blah. They're suffering, and the story needs to be told, and nobody's doing it.
Starting point is 01:38:51 It's kind of like what Anthony Bourdain was doing, but I just want to travel. There's nobody. We have to get to these people. He was passionate about traveling out the country for weeks at a time. He's saying that to somebody that hates touring i was blown away by that it never left me when i left him i said hmm that's interesting to know
Starting point is 01:39:13 interesting to know that he's that passionate about all right cool i ain't paying no mind right then he was doing some shit with vice and the first thing he did was go to the chop shops in newark and he was telling me about it and i said mike you're taking these cameras to the chop shops in newark to do like this underground like you're doing some underground tape and shit. In my head only, I'm saying, how does he even know the people to maneuver in Newark underground chop shop land? You got to, it might pop off. From the hood. You need your, I'm telling you, I learned. I had to learn.
Starting point is 01:40:00 He from the hood. I had to learn. See, I'm calling him a genius because it was so many different areas where I learned, oh, he been around. He's picked it up from places I didn't know. So he's telling me I'm running around these places. It turned up in one of these spots. I think I put my hand down. And my man over here.
Starting point is 01:40:18 And I'm listening. I'm saying, oh, so you did that too? You've been out? OK, cool. I'll put it to out okay cool I'll put it to the side I'll put it to the side I'm gonna keep coming to church I go to church Eric Garner bad that was bad church more packed than it's ever been and Rev Ron got up there and said I'm gonna invite somebody up here to speak. And he gave a beautiful introduction. And it was Michael K. Williams, who was a member of this church. So, but in my head, I'm saying, I don't like that.
Starting point is 01:40:55 Don't bring the celebrity to the pulpit to talk because he's a celebrity. That's disgusting. Stupid me. Didn't realize the real reason why what a foolish mistake boy did he go up there and talk from the soul mike not pastor mike that's he went up there and just spoke to hardship and struggle and pain and despair and desperation. And but being saying getting through it and light at the tunnel and it gave a beautiful, beautiful Eric Garner's mom. Sister was there. His family was there.
Starting point is 01:41:39 And Mike bodied this speech at a church, the most packed church I've ever been to, after like a national holiday. If you remember when Eric Arnie passed up here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like, you remember. No, it was different. And he did it. I couldn't have done it.
Starting point is 01:41:56 I was too busy crying. And he left the stage and I said, okay, you killed that. It's another side of him. This is different. You didn't expect. This is something else. And then when I thought maybe it was only the wire that he was great in, he just kept popping up in every movie I loved.
Starting point is 01:42:17 Nah, the other shows. Y'all going to talk about all the big roles, and I'm going to say every B and C movie I put on it, he was in. He smoked. He ate food. He ate on Law and Order. Yeah. I think we've talked on this podcast about how TV kind of overtook film as the leading visual medium in the past 10, 15 years.
Starting point is 01:42:39 It wasn't that before. It was movies and TV was kind of some bullshit. It was movies. But with the emergence of Netflix and all those other people. Netflix, but HBO as well. No, no. Becoming digital especially. We just said that.
Starting point is 01:42:50 He was there for a lot of it. You know what I mean? No, Boardwalk Empire. He was a monster in that show. That shit had a good six seasons. Lovecraft just knew the Ava DuVernay documentary. Like, yo, he got busy. He seemed to just pop up in all of them.
Starting point is 01:43:04 No. And he always was dressed great i know that means nothing but for me i pay attention to stuff like this it means something to me i mean it's on to him probably you can't get away from the fact that you super duper duper dark skin right so it's a stigma on that in society then you have a scar literally coming down your whole face so you're gonna get prejudged as a nigga of the worst kind probably right so now i'm gonna stay fly i'm gonna stay sharp because then that'll dispel some of the myth or some of the the prejudice that may get. You get what I'm saying? So again, for us, it ain't nothing. But for him, that might have been one of his things.
Starting point is 01:43:50 You know what I mean? Think about it on a different level. I'm a super duper dark skinned nigga and I got a scar on my face. And I'm from the hood. And they don't know that I could quote Shakespeare. Like fam, he was in some Shakespearean shit. They don't know I could quote Shakespeare. So I'm going to stay super duper fly
Starting point is 01:44:06 I'ma stay wearing the European shit So you stupid motherfuckers Don't have to prejudge me I can't be out here With the black hoodie on Or I might get Trayvon'd I'ma tell you I've only met dude once
Starting point is 01:44:16 And that was when you moved into Your current place That same day He had came over there That was the first thing I said To myself I'm like Damn this dude's dress fly Looking and smelling great same day he had came over there that was the first thing I said to myself like damn this dude's dress fly looking at smelling great I'm I thought I'm a couple
Starting point is 01:44:30 just cuz I knew I knew his background so I'm like there's a hood nigga yeah yeah exact opposite when he walked in the crib I was like but and would tell you to cologne and where you got the clothes from no he will tell you yeah man go over here even I was looking for a place I remember he was Telling me about Yo you need to come Over here to Brooklyn Where is that He said Brooklyn
Starting point is 01:44:48 This street here Yo you come here Come right here I'm like Mike Can I come to Brooklyn Can I move to Brooklyn Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 01:44:57 And they got some Yeah you can This building I was sitting He would tell them The building Yo no you gotta Come right here
Starting point is 01:45:03 This area I'm shocked that that's the first time you met him. Like, as someone who moved to New York later in life, 2007, I think I moved here. And I probably didn't watch The Wire until 2007, 2008.
Starting point is 01:45:14 But then when I started being on the scene playing little shows at dive bars across New York, it would be, oh shit, there's Weeby. Oh shit, there's Matt. I forgot what Matt's character was.
Starting point is 01:45:24 Oh shit, that's fucking Omar. forgot what Mac's character was. Oh shit, that's fucking Omar. You would see him out. Well, that's the other part. If you just happen to be taking a stroll shopping, you bump into Mike. No, he used to get his hair cut with me. The barbershop, the club.
Starting point is 01:45:40 He was out. He was out. You started to wonder like damn how could and i love the outpouring of love that i mean i didn't like it on the day that i learned he passed because boy that was painful to watch watch all of these pictures it's painful and it's a joy though because i feel joy in knowing that y'all were just as touched by this person as I was. Like, his whole life was just spent in service of.
Starting point is 01:46:12 And boy, is it eerie to me that he did the fucking DMX tribute and smoked it. Yeah. He smoked it. Because before he smoked it, he kind of gave me X vibes a little bit. Mm. Fam, you know it's airy. This the third person we talked about or third thing
Starting point is 01:46:33 we've talked about and then shortly thereafter they passed away. And the fans is like, yo, y'all just talked about the wire in depth last week. Well, in our defense we talk about greatness a lot. We do. No, no, no. I'm just saying we the wire in depth last week. Well, in our defense, we talk about greatness a lot. We do. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:46:46 I'm just saying we do. So that, you know what I mean? Like that shit. We celebrate greatness here. So like, yo, now what was eerie to me? And I mean, I don't want to say eerie because I think we all, when there's a big loss like this, a lot of people tend to look at their own mortality. That post that he put up. About Kobe? Yeah. Yeah. this a lot of people tend to look at their own mortality that post that he put up about kobe yeah
Starting point is 01:47:05 yeah that one like oh i see it which post for the people that may not have oh there was a post um uh when when kobe had passed he had put up a post saying about once uh we lost kobe is when he looked at his mortality realized how precious life is. He's like, yo, just take a, take in a sunset and you'll see how that last 30 seconds, how fast it goes.
Starting point is 01:47:32 And that might be your last sunset. Like it was just so much in there. I've been thinking about my own mortality lately. I don't know if it's the recent death of my first love and first heartbreak or watching my hero, my rock, my mom get older every day, knowing that at 93, her time won't be as long as it's been. Maybe all maybe all of the above. It all has me wondering, how will I go? Will I die alone? How will I be remembered? And what will my leg? What will be my legacy? I may not have known every nook and cranny of Colby's career, but the two things I did learn from watching him is that we are not what we do for a living. And that focus, hard work and dedication are the seeds of success.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Most importantly, his untimely passing has reminded me of how fragile life is. I believe I read some I believe I read somewhere in a Chinese proverb. Whenever you have the chance to watch the sunset, take it. It might be your last. I do this because it reminds me how fast time goes. If you don't believe me, just watch the last 60 seconds of one. I'm tired of wasting time worrying about what people think of me, self-doubt and fear. time worrying about what people think of me self doubt and fear I'd rather trade all that in for purpose driven life
Starting point is 01:48:48 cause from where I sat in the bleachers that's exactly what it looked like he had Kobe and his last post period Tracy Morgan Tracy Morgan
Starting point is 01:49:04 I understand why people say that that's eerie but I think those thoughts are common for people that come from that path like it's dark it's dark you think about that a lot anytime I ever try to have the conversation people stop me but I often wonder what people's thoughts are when they in their last moments it's important because how you live is how you go yeah this this was this was this was eerie but listen back to Mike back to the genius of Mike I fuck around one day happened to just go to the Robert Tree Hotel in Newark.
Starting point is 01:49:45 They was doing a fashion show. If you was from Jersey City, you know when they do the fashion show in Newark, you got to slide through, throw something on. Slid through, threw something on.
Starting point is 01:49:54 There's a few of them in there. I sat down, had a little pineapple juice, was doing my fucking thug fizzle in there, huh? And who comes strolling out the catwalk? You fucking guessed it, Mike or Kate Williams? Wait a minute, man. You in there, huh? And who comes strolling out the catwalk? You fucking guessed it.
Starting point is 01:50:05 Michael K. Williams. Wait a minute, man. You in a fashion show. Tell him, boy, you here? Wait, you walking like that? Boy, you got that shit on? It was like, oh shit, you great here too. And then you bump into him maybe at a party
Starting point is 01:50:24 when some shit is on. And you just see... He was a dancer, right? He used to get busy. Dancer, choreographer. Dancer, dancer. You could tell. Somebody, a young lady,
Starting point is 01:50:43 you know young ladies. Young lady one time i was in melody i was trying to learn i didn't know how to dance she was a dancer i think she did the bylaw video too she did do bylaw video and she was trying to teach me how to dance and i said listen i have no rhythm i have two left feet this ain't gonna work and she said to me the key to dancing joe is to not think all you gotta do is let your body free flow and feel and use no brain power and i promise you you could dance that never left me because i can never do it but then when i watch mike dance and when I watch all y'all post these videos of Mike dancing and when I kind of know about some of the struggles in the darkness I understand the
Starting point is 01:51:35 smile and I understand this movement and I understand the freedom and I understand the interviews where he's saying yo don't ask me how i prepared for this role you wouldn't get it that's none of your business a lot in my career i was blown away at how i could get in a booth and share some of my darkest shit with the universe but no you niggas better not talk to me about it in person like that always kind of bothered me a little bit. Like how can I? That's weird. Like how can I do that?
Starting point is 01:52:11 But watching Mike dance, look at this man dance. It's just back to what does music do for you? What does culture or the elements of it do for you. And then I fucked around and went to LA on a threesome mission. I had it lined. She shorty was there with her manager
Starting point is 01:52:37 who was fine. You couldn't tell me I wasn't about to kill shit. They were super fine. It was 11 a.m. in LA. I said, hey baby, let's hit the roof. Let's hit the pool. Why don't you change up? Go order a sandwich
Starting point is 01:52:49 or something. We get up there. Bathing suits on. Ordering food. Sandwiches. Yo, shorties, she ordered her chicken wrap. I knew I was about to fuck. When they order a little wrap they mean they want some nutrients want some nutrients before the dick so they want some health right so she ordered chicken wrap
Starting point is 01:53:13 and i think it's on so i got my bow speaker with me like a fucker you know i traveled with it thinking i was a little horny ass nigga sit Sit down. Brought your Bose speaker to the pool. They playing music and you playing music. Y'all battling. But I did it. I brought my Bose speaker and I was in the middle of the greatest R&B set in the world and I heard that I was facing the skyline in LA.
Starting point is 01:53:38 Feet up with two beautiful women. I heard the door slam behind me. Boom. I turn around. It's fucking Mike. It's Michael K. Williams. He was with beautiful women and beautiful men. So he brought the whole party. He shut me down.
Starting point is 01:53:58 I had to pull to myself up there at 11 a.m. But now he brought the niggas and the women and he was dressed it had some flies had on the dirty tank top up there and he said hey Joe he gave me the LH oh hey Mike I was trying to keep it easy he seemed like he was with his work people preparing for a role and she was introducing me to them he was introducing me to his work actor fam did you get the threesome yo why you can't relax your hormones it's not even about that that was just like a little extra no i didn't get the threesome because Michael K Williams came
Starting point is 01:54:41 so Michael K Williams came but let me give it to you long story longer I'm in the middle of the greatest R&B set ever it might have been Brian McKnight up there I'm getting it so I said alright John
Starting point is 01:54:52 I see where you're going we're taking the culture we're doing this alright whatever and Mike was talking and shit he introduced me to a couple of like
Starting point is 01:54:57 big wigs from the movies I'm like nigga I don't care it was good it's cool it's cool right and then he said after he introduced me
Starting point is 01:55:03 he said hey dog turn that shit off is that your speaker It was good. It's cool. It's cool, right? And then he said, after he introduced me, he said, hey, dog. Turn that shit off. Is that your speaker? I'm telling this story because I'm black. And yes, it's my speaker. And I'm getting a threesome popping, Mike. Yes.
Starting point is 01:55:22 And he said, can I see it for a second? And I looked over at my area. They wasn't vibing like he had it lit. So you know what here, man? I gave it to him. I gave him my speaker. I know that sound like nothing to y'all, but I loved him enough to say, you know what? I'll fuck them later. And I gave him the speaker and he put his phone, and he had the DJ app on his phone.
Starting point is 01:55:46 On his phone. And he started scratching. I'm not lying. I know I lie a lot. So now, we on the rooftop of my low hotel that you're not even supposed to be at. Now my chick's jamming to your shit,. You over there in a cabana on the phone talking about chicka chicka chicka chicka chicka chicka
Starting point is 01:56:08 Yo, he killing shit better than I do on his thing. And I looked and I said what they be saying to me. I said, hey, yo man, what's that app you using? He said, it's a little something called DJ. Just looked at my shit. It's like I use that too, man. I don't use it like that man I don't use it like that
Starting point is 01:56:25 I don't use it like him but I said to myself of course Michael K. Williams he would be the great man he would be the one so then he stood up all this party
Starting point is 01:56:36 he was laughing and he scratched in something he said am I doing I ain't doing this right cause I can't scratch hey yeah hey he said he did something like this one of them shits and he said He said, okay, man, I ain't doing this right because I can't scratch. Hey, yeah. Hey, he said, he did something like this.
Starting point is 01:56:47 One of them shits. And he said, he did this. This is at a pool party. I mean, it's at a pool rooftop. He played this fucking shit. And I looked over and I was like, wait a minute. I never heard this song. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:57:07 And I stopped and I say Yo yo who Who was that Yo it's like my manhood is gone dog And you a musician This nigga he's scratching He got your app He took your girls This is his pool
Starting point is 01:57:22 And now you playing some shit And your dusty ass is like Yo man What's that tune? You ain't had a Shazam on you? No. There ain't wasn't no Shazam. There ain't no Shazam. There wasn't no Shazam, nigga.
Starting point is 01:57:34 And he say, yeah, this is my man. This is Jordan Banks. Oh, I fuck it up. Gordon Banks. He be correcting me all the time. This is Jordan Banks. This is New Jam. This is blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:57:41 And then he got up, and he started dancing at the pool party man cut this shit off i'll get mad and he started doing all these moves that i couldn't do with my body and i'm like yo he can do this too all right so he's a great actor he's a great activist he's passionate about this shit he's into hip-hop you know all the rappers we all love him he fucking writes poems you can choreograph some shit and now you're a dj too and a dancer like what can't this man do is how i felt about michael k williams i felt so in love with him that it was so selfish it's selfish of us it's selfish of us while I'm going through it I always wanted to see him because he made me feel better that's what he did to everybody and I'm seeing that in y'all pictures y'all posting the directors Ava DuVernay loved what
Starting point is 01:58:39 you said Questlove you always say the right shit, man. You piss me off. Like, you just always do it right. All the love that y'all show. And I'm like, oh, man, this guy has just been impactful everywhere. Everywhere. And then I never got the Brooklyn crib. I got my own crib. And I needed a chef. And my mom said, I know a chef. And I called the chef.
Starting point is 01:59:01 And I got a chef. And the chef came over. And by the grace of the Monopoly gods, it just happened to be Michael K. Williams' son. That's his son? Yeah. I didn't know that. Well, you know it now.
Starting point is 01:59:16 You know what I'm saying? I follow Chef, and he kept posting mad shit, but I didn't know that was his son. That's his son. Oh, I didn't know that. Me neither. So as I'm eating these meals you know black people share over some food so he's cooking and he's starting to share some of his struggles and some things that he battles with and for me fam you here to cook like this ain't that but some of what he was saying was
Starting point is 01:59:48 piercing me in my soul and then I learned who he was and I said oh I finally got you I got you Mike I found the area that you may not be. I found the imperfection. And it hit me because I went through that with my first son. You know, you out, you running around and we running, we running, we ripping and we running. And we might not show up as the best of that. Right. That dad, maybe. I'm thinking, damn, man, this guy has been this brilliant while going through. This is a different this is a different struggle here. And after I learned that, I went on to see interviews from Michael K. Williams, where he speaks on exactly that transparently candidly freely yo there was some dark times where i
Starting point is 02:00:48 didn't show up and i wasn't the best and i had to learn for it i had to make some decisions i had to get myself frightened and then i was there to eat with this chef and see it maybe get a little better from far without knowing right it humanized mike for me because i just always saw him as this just amazing genius who just spread love and light everywhere and was just full of talent and maybe used the creative shit as an escape like most of us do but it made the genius even more genius like the thing about genius, and we use that word loosely a lot, right? Like the viewing public,
Starting point is 02:01:28 y'all just get to see the work. Y'all don't get to see the work to the work. Yeah, they see the finished product. Y'all see the result. You see the result. You don't see the work. Ava DuVernay said that shit. She spoke about him coming to set
Starting point is 02:01:42 when it wasn't his day, just to make the actors and the actresses feel better, just to learn, just to see. And even in speaking to him about movies, you know, like some niggas will talk to me about rap, and they'll be like, yo, I don't hear it like you. Like, it's different. The move, me talking to him about movies was like that.
Starting point is 02:01:58 Like, oh, I didn't, oh, oh. Oh, you dissecting that. Like, oh, the actor, he took this movie, rolled wine, and then it did this, and he turned this down. It was like, you know the meme where dude Like, oh, the actor here, and he took this movie, rolled wine, and then it did this, and he turned this down. It was like, you know the meme where dude is in front of the chalkboard? He did that with movies. And his son did it with movies, too.
Starting point is 02:02:14 And it just made me appreciate him even more. Because I went through that. So if you went through any of this, any of it, any of it that you know he went through that so if you went through any of this any of it any of it that you know he went through to see him always smile always always have a smile to light up the fucking room I'm not telling y'all about Magic Johnson who won a chip in college you want to chip as a rookie who fucking had the endorsement who had to smile who every time you see them just smiling, and white people love to smile. Oh, my God, man, there's a black guy that's smiling. No, nigga.
Starting point is 02:02:47 No. Mike is smiling. A nigga from our hood. A nigga that went through some of what we went through. A nigga that didn't win the chip. A nigga that had the same struggles and hardships and demons. Man, it'd be tough for me to read what you white owned publications post when one of our black kings go. Boy, it hurts me.
Starting point is 02:03:11 It hurts me. I read that fucking post in the post and I don't I have boycotted the post because the post is the post. Fuck the post. But you read it. But you read it because, boy, they rushed to the story. But you read it. But you read it. Because, boy, they rush to the story. Rush right out. Don't tell me about nothing you found on Michael K. Williams' table, nigga. While he gone. Ah.
Starting point is 02:03:33 Don't work like that. You don't tell me his truths. America, you tell me yours. You don't tell me about how he ended up here. How we ended up here. How it got to be like that. It's never the why. It's always this.
Starting point is 02:03:50 No, that was none of my business. That was none of y'all business. How our great, amazing, genius performers go about the art of entertaining us is none of our business until it is and Mike was really really loved a lot of us loved me had a lot of friends a lot of people know but you don't know you don't know how do you know you don't know black men is running around coping. Literally, maintaining.
Starting point is 02:04:26 And some white men too. But men are coping and burying. I'm highlighting that meeting that we stayed after church to kick it with because it was a place that you don't kick it like that. You don't share the things that were shared there. And I was so sick, I used to run in the bathroom and pop my pills and then come back out to hear the fucking meeting. So imagine my heart and soul and spirit
Starting point is 02:04:59 when you get the phone call in the morning to say, hey man, Reverend Ron was found in his office. They saying pills. They saying, I don't know. I don't know. Boy, that hurts. Imagine reading the post and Michael K. Williams, hey, this is what we found.
Starting point is 02:05:19 It hurts, but it hurts if y'all never say that, the post. And that's the part y'all don't know. Y'all don't have to tell us because we know what the statistics say about those of us that struggle in these areas. We don't really win. We lose. The fuck is y'all telling us about what you found in the confines of somebody's personal home? Y'all are fucking disgusting. But you know that already because I'm the millionth person
Starting point is 02:05:45 to tell you. Y'all not even my focus right now, so I'm off of that. I'm just saying, when I learned about his death, I went to his son's page just to check the temp. And I left in a millisecond.
Starting point is 02:05:59 I couldn't stay there. He was losing it. And he said, yo, I just stepped off a plane and opened my phone and saw this. Oh, my God. That be my issue with how things are reported and published. Because they don't realize these are people. No, they don't.
Starting point is 02:06:17 It's humanity still. They do not realize that. It's humanity still. But the reporters should. Fam, they do not look at this as people. Because they know far along. You're just a story. You're just a story.
Starting point is 02:06:29 No. I mean, we go back to when Kobe passed. I think what happens is. All the false information. Rick Fox peoples was sitting there saying, yo, oh shit. The ambulance people came and took pics of dead Kobe. Yeah. So we know what they should do.
Starting point is 02:06:44 But they don't do that. They're not doing that. It's who can get to it first. Nah, I think what happens in society is they separate celebrity from human. Definitely.
Starting point is 02:06:58 That's why I said they don't look at you. We was together when Kobe passed. And even us, I'm like, man, them niggas. In my head, bro, I couldn't grasp it, right'm like, man, them niggas. In my head,
Starting point is 02:07:05 bro, I couldn't grasp it, right? I'm like, them niggas gonna find Kobe in the desert with a broke leg somewhere. No bullshit. I almost crashed. Nigga, this is Kobe. Y'all like, yo, them niggas gonna be over. They gonna catch this nigga carrying Gigi on his back. She gonna have a couple scratches. This nigga leg
Starting point is 02:07:21 gonna be broke. Like, this is Kobe, my nigga. Kobe don't walk off. He walk off the court. He don't get carried off. Yeah, we was having that talk. We was in the middle of the Monopoly game. In the middle of like, mm-mm, we ain't believing that. This Kobe.
Starting point is 02:07:32 And then the news kept, well, TMZ posted it. It kept going. Oh, man. Well, they normally be right, but that's Kobe. Like, literally. Like, they going to find him in the bushes somewhere, like in the tree. So I think what happens with society, because they get the quote-unquote regular people versus celebrity, they don't look at you in a humanistic light. At all.
Starting point is 02:07:52 You're not. You get what I'm saying? You're not looked at as a person. Yeah. I think that's what happens. I think, like, we forget that these people got kids. You forget that these people got parents. You forget that these people got siblings.
Starting point is 02:08:03 Right? So if a cop gets killed, you embrace their family. that these people got parents. You forget that these people got siblings, right? So, if a cop gets killed, you embrace their family. A celebrity get killed, people forget that they humans. And you'll write anything. Like, dog,
Starting point is 02:08:15 it could be 50-50 on whether it's true. Y'all still write it. And once you put it out, you can't take it back. It could be 100% false. You can't take it back. Like, they forget the humanistic point
Starting point is 02:08:26 of the celebrities. That's horrible. I agree. I had to leave his son's page. I would only have to imagine what that's like. Even when I try to imagine, it hurts too much. I'm blessed to still
Starting point is 02:08:41 have both my parents. He lost his mom and his dad in a year oh yeah he did you're right because I remember he was supposed to buy his mom's too you're right I know a lot of us are grieving man we are grieving and we mourning a really really really really special brother. Part of some of the responsible for some of the greatest characters in TV history, but. An even greater character himself. Class act. Class personified.
Starting point is 02:09:20 Fast personified. Just genius and work and preparation and just meticulous and just loved it all. And just loved all of this shit. That one hurt. They all hurt. But this one hit me a little differently Mike we love you to your children your fans
Starting point is 02:09:50 your family I'm praying for y'all I'm praying for y'all we all suffer we all have suffered great loss great loss with this one and we'll miss them
Starting point is 02:10:04 all of this hurts to watch I hope he's in a better place I hope he's happy I hope he's at peace and I pray for the same for all of us that love him that had a really difficult
Starting point is 02:10:23 Monday and some people close to him that had a really difficult Monday and some people close to him that had a tough Saturday and Sunday thing about them wellness checks thing about them wellness checks a wellness check is because somebody wants to know if you're well I was talking to my mom uh because I had to check on because I had to check on her. I had to check on her and make sure she was all right before going to bed.
Starting point is 02:10:49 When I found out, I wasn't calling her to tell her. I thought I had the news early. I thought I was protecting her. And then she called me. But I called her the night before to check on her and we started talking about
Starting point is 02:10:58 wellness checks and what it means. And I'm like, yo, if I don't show up to my podcast on don't show up to my podcast on Tuesday and no one hears from me on Tuesday I anticipate there'd be a wellness check right because you know that's the regular right schedule yeah out of the norm so my mom gets to talking and she's like well when I'm in that headspace I leave my um I think to leave my door unlocked. And I said, well, why? Just in case. And she said, just in case. In case somebody has to get in here.
Starting point is 02:11:30 The fire department, the police, you. And I laughed. I laughed. I had a good laugh. Boy, did I get a good laugh. She didn't understand why I was laughing, but I said, Ma, if me or my brother thought that you weren't well.
Starting point is 02:11:47 That door's the last thing on her mind. Whether the door is locked or unlocked means nothing. Bless my mother's soul. I said, Ma, you know how many doors I've kicked down? We can get in the door. We can get in the door. No, she said, don't tell him. Fam, that door is coming down in a second.
Starting point is 02:12:04 I get in probably faster than if I tried to just pull the door off. Good point. Right. But I didn't even want to put myself in that headspace. Even that thought was scary, man. Listen, if you have your parents, if you have a parent, just hug them, love them, check on them. Shit is rough and it ain't getting easier it ain't getting easier out here if you are out there dealing with demons
Starting point is 02:12:30 darkness devils depression and despair i love you you're not alone and we need you here i've heard mike say it a bunch if you don't have hope what need you here. I've heard Mike say it a bunch. If you don't have hope, what are you here for? Hopefully. Nah, I don't know what to say. I don't have the words. I don't have the words. I didn't even know I was going to come here and pause today, honestly.
Starting point is 02:12:58 I told you. I checked on you. And I didn't really. I was even that. I was skeptical. I don't want to you know what I mean I would have understood everybody I would understood I thought the tweet in the moment yo dog cancel but I ain't wanna let me let it sit let me let it sit let me let
Starting point is 02:13:15 it marinate that's just the tough part about having it ain't no words there are no words that could describe how I feel how I feel about this man, like if he touched you, he touched you, and that's it, and that's all we have, that's what we leave here with, how many people did we touch, how many people did we affect, how much change did we do, and Mike, you did it, you did that, if you did it for no one else, which could not be true, you certainly did it for me. And for that, I love you forever, man. Well, before you...
Starting point is 02:13:52 Arthur just playing outstanding. I just want to say, I want to send a rest in peace out as well to stand-up comic Fuquan Johnson. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. As well as the others that, you know... Fu, from my hood, too.
Starting point is 02:14:02 Over the weekend. Fu, yeah, he from my hood. Yeah. Come on, man. That one fucking hurt too, man. I don't like the harp on it. That was fentanyl, rumored? Yes. Please, I've lost people to fentanyl.
Starting point is 02:14:19 If you do drugs, please test them. I still have friends that do drugs for fun. You keep saying it too every single time you say i'm terrified you say it every single time well now and now you have to say hold on let me read this so i get this right i think i favored it i couldn't find it but uh there was i saw something on the timeline where they were saying where they give out uh fentanyl tests like they give out free fentanyl tests. Like, they give out free fentanyl tests, and if it's not free, it costs a dollar.
Starting point is 02:14:49 You can get them from somewhere. We should look that up and give it out. It's funny you say that. I was looking, because I seen you can buy the buns in bulk on Amazon, and I was like, I just want to buy a bunch of them, but I don't know what to do once we get them. But I did see that. It came with the instructions on how to test. Because they're putting it in everything. Yeah. I've had to yell at friends and family members recently at the wedding.
Starting point is 02:15:10 Like, please. I'm not going to say don't do drugs. Because I would be a hypocrite. I would be a terrible person for saying that. But please test it. Be safe. Please. Because today, it's in everything.
Starting point is 02:15:19 They're throwing that shit in whatever. But when you say use responsibly, today responsibly just means a little more. It means more than just, hey, don't drive. Or now it could be literally. Make sure they're not poisoning your fucking Coke or whatever the fuck you're doing. And that's the other thing I would like for them to stop doing too. When they find out it's fentanyl related, stop saying overdose. That's not an OD.
Starting point is 02:15:40 That's poisoned. Yeah. Agreed. Because I didn't buy fentanyl. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I didn't even think about that. I did not get fentanyl. I didn I didn't buy fentanyl. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I did not get fentanyl. I didn't go to get fentanyl.
Starting point is 02:15:48 I never liked the use of overdose. That's not an overdose. That's absolutely right. I never even thought about it. Period. I hate the term overdose because you can't ask the person, hey, did you take more than you normally take? True.
Starting point is 02:16:00 Like fool. When I read what happened, reading it, sounds like a great night in la yeah right i went to the comedy club i tore shit down i went back with the homies went in the bathroom it was the kickback he probably did that a million correct times so don't call it an overdose well they call it an overdose because it was uh fatal but for that person you don't know they was just in their normal bag right maybe i normally do cocaine i don't do they was just in their normal bag. Right. Maybe I normally do cocaine. I don't do fentanyl and cocaine. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:16:28 That was poisoned. I don't even understand why they put fentanyl and cocaine because they're too different. It's like a speedball and it's like doing heroin and cocaine at the same time. It's an opiate
Starting point is 02:16:37 and an upper. That's like a... Nobody in Jersey City could get fentanyl. Why is that? Because we don't have the power to just go City could get fentanyl. Why is that? Because we don't have the power to just go somewhere and purchase fentanyl
Starting point is 02:16:49 in bulk and step on the drugs that way. Oh, okay. Oh, you mean in a mass quantity. Where is all it coming from?
Starting point is 02:16:55 And why ain't it important? Because what's happening is people can't get cut. Cut for the heroin is expensive. And what's happening is they're trying to kill us. Fair.
Starting point is 02:17:03 I'm Connery Joe. That's what they're trying to do. I'm kind of with Joe because that's always coming from us. Who was us when they put the drugs where they put it? Who was it intended for?
Starting point is 02:17:13 Oh, I don't know. I'm just saying. That's why I was asking who's us because mad people dropping dead from that shit. And it ain't no racial thing because when you go to South Jersey. Where's a lot of it coming from?
Starting point is 02:17:22 When you go to South Jersey, fam, then white people was falling over like Tic Tacs. just i just read why you think there's been 90 000 this year why you think all the governors and all of them now are saying yo it's a sickness it's a sickness it's a sickness they're calling it a sickness now it's a poisoning no no what i'm saying is they talk about drug addiction because it's spilled outside of... The white people
Starting point is 02:17:45 are falling over from it, right? Yeah. Like the governor's kids and the executive's kids and all of these kids are falling off because of the heroin down South Jersey.
Starting point is 02:17:55 It's crazy. When black people was on crack, all these crackhead motherfuckers, they criminals, they crooks, they this, they this, fuck them all, lock them away,
Starting point is 02:18:03 don't ever let the key out right now that the white people are falling over the white people are addicted white people love them some cocaine
Starting point is 02:18:10 and heroin heroin bro again they lacing the dope they lacing both they lacing everything they're lacing
Starting point is 02:18:17 they're lacing the weed they're lacing everything they got K9 yes what is it yes K2 K2 K2 but again but yes they're lacing everything. What is it? K9? Yes. What is it? Yes. K2. K2. K2.
Starting point is 02:18:26 K2. But again. But yes, they're lacing everything. The heroin primarily. They sprinkling that damn fentanyl on shit. I ain't heard a K2 report out the suburbs yet. Outside of the suburbs? What do you mean?
Starting point is 02:18:40 From the suburbs. Oh, I don't know. I just keep hearing Brooklyn. I keep hearing the Bronx. I don't be knowing that much about the K2. I don't be knowing that much about the K-2. I don't be hearing too much about Westchester, wherever the other places are. And I ain't going to speak too much in all that
Starting point is 02:18:52 because I don't know. I don't know. I'm just telling you thoughts. I wish that there was aggression in trying to get fentanyl off the streets. Listen. Because it's killing my dogs. I'm agreeing with Joe when I say this is planned attack at this point.
Starting point is 02:19:05 Because most of that fentanyl, where it traces back to, is the same place the virus traces back to. I don't think that's a coincidence. That's just me speaking. I do not think that's a coincidence. But when you say, like, use your drugs responsibly, right? Like, and what that means today. Today that means you can't even pass your drugs toibly. Right? And what that means today. Today that means you can't even pass your drugs
Starting point is 02:19:28 to the next person. No. It ain't cypher time. Nobody else shit? Nah. No. You don't know what that is? You can't.
Starting point is 02:19:36 No, no, no. Use responsibly. Even back in the day, dog. One of my niggas, rest in peace, matter of fact, he passed away from COVID. But he had smoked some bad weed one time.
Starting point is 02:19:48 It fucked the central nervous system up. He wasn't ever the same. Fam, we all watched Friday. Yes. We all watched Friday. But they made a joke out of it. But that was really happening, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:58 You know, on the skit, Cam said, yo, this ain't purple neither, Tito. I'm not smoking this. Like, that was my first time doing Angel Dust. Thinking it was weed we all saw the rest in peace we saw the x story yeah oh that's all that's all yeah man yeah like you don't like you use responsibly today means something totally different now you test your shit get the strips test your shit and yeah and keep that's not part of drug like you i don't get i know drugs at the bar someone's got yeah i mean here you want to do it you mean but that's Yeah, and keep... That's not part of drugs. I know, I know.
Starting point is 02:20:25 People get drugs at the bar. Someone's got... Yeah, I mean, here. You want to do it? You know what I mean? But that's what's happening. You party at the party. People have been lucky throughout the years because even that...
Starting point is 02:20:34 Ain't none of us chemists. I didn't know the quantity. You don't know what's in what you're getting. And I'm not even sure if you test it right. You might just not hit the little spot of fentanyl. You know what I'm saying? I didn't know it was that little. That little bit is lethal.
Starting point is 02:20:47 It's lethal. Yo, please be safe and be careful. I'm telling that to the people in and of this culture because it's where it's at. That's where it's at. It's not, Joe. It's what we do. That's the thing, though. This shit is everywhere.
Starting point is 02:21:02 We self-medicate. I'm telling you. There's been 90, though. This shit is everywhere. We self-medicate. I'm telling you. There's been 90,000 fentanyl-related deaths this year alone. Like, it ain't just hitting this culture. This is something else. And like I said, I add that with the other thing. This seems to be a little targeted to this country. Mike, I love you, man. I'm off it. Mike, I love you. Everybody out there, please be careful. Please be safe. And please just try to make
Starting point is 02:21:35 it to tomorrow, even if you may not have the energy to today. I didn't cry as much as I Yesterday was bad I'm where I lay low Ooh, baby, I see You're nervous Just let me know Alright, mic check, one, two, one, two Mic check, one, two, one, two Hope we still good, hope we still alive
Starting point is 02:22:03 Kareem, I love you I know you feel the love is in the air Don't move, we got a lot to lose And if you walk away, it won't be fair No, no Can I walk away it won't be fair no no can I keep you in my mind keep you in my mind
Starting point is 02:22:34 keep you in my mind keep you in my mind keep you in my mind keep you in my mind This was good. This was necessary. We good. Anything breaking we need to get to? The NFL. Boy, y'all NFL-ing. We'll talk about it later.
Starting point is 02:22:58 It's not important right now. They don't want the teams to do nothing with the NFTs until they regulate it somehow. No, until we figure out how we can capitalize off of it. and that ain't regulation it's well y'all not about to get this money without us you motherfuckers ain't gonna get this money without us nigga uh congratulations to cardi and offset oh that's dope she had her she had her baby Oh boy He was there On the little side bed Like a stand up dude That's right He was in the side bed That little side bed
Starting point is 02:23:29 Hey man That side bed I got the best sleep ever That shorty was hot Sin was mad too You went to sleep Yes Fuck you thought
Starting point is 02:23:36 I was going to The nurse just said We had 17 hours Until Yeah I'm calling you When it's time Shit what the fuck Yeah she said
Starting point is 02:23:43 You was doodling Or down lading She said another day Doodling Doodling Shut your dog Yeah, I'm calling to sleep. When it's time, shit, what the fuck? Yeah, she said you was dubulating or downloading. She said another day. Dubulating. Dubulating. Shut your dog ass. I'm asleep. She coming over to me like.
Starting point is 02:23:52 Yeah, she said you was dubulating. Nurse was coming over to me like I was responsible, like telling me, she's dubulating. I'm like, fam, I don't, just let me know when Lex is here. That's how I felt. Like, man, look, is it time yet? No? All right, cool.
Starting point is 02:24:05 Give me that cover. You watched Ice? You watched? Watch what? Childbirth. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. Right there.
Starting point is 02:24:14 Really? Mm-hmm. Cut the cord? Oh, shit. Did your kid's head get stuck on the cord? No. Did your kid's head get stuck in her? No.
Starting point is 02:24:22 He popped right out. Three pushes. Seven minutes of hard labor. Yeah? Really? Yeah. He popped right out. Three pushes. Seven minutes of hard labor. Yeah? Really? Yeah. That girl is so cool, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:28 She made me look at Shorty totally different. I'm like, you got it. Whatever the argument is from here on out, you right. Because once you see that, you know your dick
Starting point is 02:24:37 is inferior to everything. Nah. Nah. Oh, here it comes. No, no, no. All right. I thought a little different I ain't gonna lie challenge accepted
Starting point is 02:24:48 I'm gonna make you feel it again I never fucked her again oh you fucking we was on the clock like how many weeks they said what they said
Starting point is 02:24:56 what they said six right we was well on our way to fucking Tuesday we was on a countdown yo you good you good down there
Starting point is 02:25:04 what's up? You on TV. We're not fucking. I'm like, oh, you don't want to tell them the rest of it. Let's fucking edit it all. Edit. Oh, man. I hope everybody, man.
Starting point is 02:25:19 Whatever. Y'all got sleepers? Yeah, I do. Let me get you. Let me get the cord. Oh, let me. I got you, buddy. I got you a Here's a little
Starting point is 02:25:25 Chord for you Yo 42 Dog Dead Nothing Oh Man we didn't even talk about Oh y'all ain't watching Made in America
Starting point is 02:25:40 Nevermind Do you have something You want to tell us about No it was just It was a dope show. I have a newfound appreciation for Roddy Ricch. He was home.
Starting point is 02:25:48 I did not know he was that ill. He was home too, right? No, no. He's from Compton. Oh, damn. Well, I thought he was from Philly.
Starting point is 02:25:56 But he literally, he smoked that. Not to talk about. Shut your dumb ass up. Where you callak from? Florida I was about to say You can't guess that wrong That one you can't guess
Starting point is 02:26:11 Why can't you? Now Kodak? Have you seen him? That's Florida Heard him That's Florida I'm out Alright come on Joe
Starting point is 02:26:20 What you got for us? Play your shit You know what I got What are you talking about? I'm gonna play a medley of my greatest depressed hits. What the fuck are you talking about? I'm going to keep this song on. Shut up.
Starting point is 02:26:35 No, Joe Biden. Please somebody help my soul. Please somebody help my soul I let the man have a talk with the beast in me I'm holding on to my last bit of decency I need a vacay, a change of scenery But mama said wherever I'ma go, I'm taking me with me I told her shit is on my mind and it's been eatin' me She got me pissin' in a cup, she don't believe in me
Starting point is 02:27:08 It's not the drugs that got me out of my zone Goin' days without eatin' in a crowd, I feel alone, mama Then she asked me why it seems I never sleep at night I told her when I close my eyes, my brain just keeps to fight She said my friends wanna have an intervention with me I speak to niggas daily, that was never mentioned to me She told me it's a higher power and a lower power And that I'll die if I don't find the strength to overpower
Starting point is 02:27:31 Then I replied, well, aren't we all? She said, yeah, but that should be on God's terms, not yours I know you thought it scary And it makes it hard to breathe again Like I'm blinded while I'm staring in the mirror Asking God to help me see again Please help me But he tells me I'm only human
Starting point is 02:28:01 That I'll be back on my feet again Please help me Somebody help me, I got the mark on human I'm a crook and broke again Don't leave here, don't leave here That's my secret too How about here? That's my secret too. How about here? That's my secret too.
Starting point is 02:28:28 I'm top 12 right here? No, I said that second verse was top 12. What's this though? This top 12? This top? Yeah, I know. Just let him talk. Let him talk.
Starting point is 02:28:38 I was feeling myself on this one before I heard that 3K verse. Uh-oh! Willie-oh! I don't have a PMI, you see that? Willie Budden, rest in peace. I'll do it, Uncle Pete. Mike Williams, we love you still. You can't give up. You can't give up. There they go! Just trying to explain the unexplainable.
Starting point is 02:28:58 More than trying to attain the unattainable. Trying to make it sustainable. Collecting all the parts, see if they interchangeable. Killing me slow, but I'm glad it's entertaining you Everyday it amaze me The same thinking that paid me The same thinking that plagued me Hacking I think I'm crazy, sway me Cause the profit off of shit that aches me Is actually pretty wavy I'm painting the perfect picture Only perfect cause the imperfections are highlighted
Starting point is 02:29:22 The gross currency off of that kind of sickness Changes the meaning of mine, my business Giving what was given to me So the soldiers come over and so they call me Yoda instead of Joseph I be like, why they come to me for advice? They should really come to me for advice I got them all, got a counter for the living Fuckin' old pills, the illusion
Starting point is 02:29:41 I can tell you how it feels I can't tell the people who come in and play with All got criminal bodies, innocent faces Jack Miller, Juice WRLD, Prince, fuckin' who else? The man people died this year. You would think they've been ordained Got her legs in the air and she's screaming the Lord's name I'm feet in a more game, more game, more game I started fucking her mind, that's when all them thoughts came She keeps saying if I'm one of her I should fight for My plight for her says I don't know if I'm right for her Even so know there's a fire I ignite for her Steering at her ceiling seeing me like I'm a nightcrawler
Starting point is 02:30:21 It's like she love me but she don't That's when she lose me, that's when she confuse me It's what I get appalled with Can't call it, she think I should remove her hurt Since I installed it but I wish she knew I was perturbed too Birds view it hurt me more knowing I hurt you Even though it exists I don't ever bring it up
Starting point is 02:30:38 We don't be doing nothing but it's everything to us We don't be doing nothing but it's everything to us Presently she bring up the past and it's filthy Presently she bring up the past and it's filthy You not talking to who I was or who I will be But that's my own assignment You wanna take all of the feelings and the time spent and give it realignment Check the catalog, latter of God or self-sabotage
Starting point is 02:30:56 I'd explain further but I'd rather not So look on me, everybody have a shot I do it for the niggas they said wouldn't have a shot But some days are better than some days, still yet here I stand on numb legs Women don't give a fuck that I have these scars, I'm fucking the same hoes that the athletes are What a rollercoaster, we argued and we sexed, face in a box, James Harden in a text Nigga from the Clippers, hey morning, text her good morning She be sleepy, just be talking to me, my nigga
Starting point is 02:31:25 None of this is a pain to see, I only care about her, she pertains to me Shit, I'm tending to emergencies, with urgency, that urge in me It's my daily fight, and her purging me Throckles, I ain't got time to be strung now Grandpa's cancer just made it to his lungs now In 2012, docs gave him a few months, wow He's alive somehow Outlived two sons
Starting point is 02:31:46 Wow, wow So now the observation Says he'll die quicker with chemo and radiation He ain't strong enough to even go through operation Know that death's coming He just in the house waiting So you telling me it ain't a way to fix this shit? Or is grandpa too old for you to give a shit?
Starting point is 02:32:03 Let's twist this shit Give you my predicament Wonder how you'd feel if I was telling yours, live with it And it's traveling to his heart soon Of course it all hit me like a heart poem I was in shock and then it was all clearer When he called me and asked me to be his pallbearer I was floored, within the next second
Starting point is 02:32:21 Was back to being self-centered, self-absorbed And it became about me, fought it off long enough I could help carry your weight, but I ain't strong enough And why do I have to be? This the shit I be naturally asking me, I'm such a catastrophe See me breaking down with my father and backing me So for me to attend, I'm trying to think of a strategy But I'm happy for my dad, he was incarcerated when his mama didn't make it So for him to get that chance again with you
Starting point is 02:32:47 Means the world, he could be there till the end for you and me I bleed out through this pen for you Can't carry this around, gotta Venice through Cause now, grandpa be closer to his wife Have cards when I come, we playing poker in the sky Yeah, I'm not back. You're the company to be as long as I'm gone. Okay, you. Good to hear from you anyway. All right.
Starting point is 02:33:31 Take care. You know, I'll see you soon, Granddad Pooh. Oh. No, Joe Biden.

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