The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 496 | "Stepping Into My Truth"
Episode Date: December 22, 2021The end of the year has arrived snd so have the annual wrap-up lists from the media. First, Joe and the guys analyze B.dot's list and share their thoughts on the motive behind the lists (27:55). Next,... the guys congratulate Lil Durk (39:30), discuss Big Sean's interview on Drink Champs (55:45), the passing of Drakeo The Ruler (1:25:20), and a recap of the boxing match between Jake Paul and Tyron Woodley (1:49:45). Lastly, Joe and the guys observe the massive music catalogs that have been sold in recent years (1:59:40) and MORE! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Episode 496 Sleeper Picks Joe | Jvck James - “No Drama” Ice | Plies - “Letter to The Industry” Parks | Nick Grant - “Holy Ghost” Ish | Brian McKnight - “My Kinda Girl” (Ft. Justin Timberlake)
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Oh, see?
See?
And that's why I feel like you shouldn't be able to joke on me.
Because when it's on, like, it's on.
I agree.
I start the fight.
You do.
You still off first.
You know what I mean?
So it's like, you got it.
I follow up.
I don't really want no beef, though.
No, no, no.
I don't have no beef, neither.
No beef.
Be clear.
No beef.
I like these pods that have been going on without me yelling
I like them
It's been a nice cool vibe
NPR vibes
Hey
Hey
What's up man what's poppin
What's going on man
What's going on how y'all doing
Great
How y'all feeling y'all good y'all good
Y'all good
Chillin
I've been better
I'm great
Why
I'm living in a hotel man
For real
My baby and my girl have COVID Oh Hold up chilling. I've been better. I'm great. Bye. I'm living in a hotel, man. For real?
My baby and my girl have COVID.
Oh, shit.
You clapped at the hotel?
Yeah.
A break from your family?
It sounds dope. This ain't the break you wanted.
Christmas week?
A break from your family is kind of hard.
This is not the break you want Christmas week, bro.
Well, no.
Not if you're you.
Oh, okay.
First time dad.
First Christmas dad.
No, second.
Same shit.
Same thing.
No, you want to be there.
You in love still.
Yeah, man.
You want to be there.
I'm doing all this shit through FaceTime.
Most, man.
Baby crying and reaching.
I can't.
I'm miserable, bro.
You're trying to break my heart.
Is y'all clearance protocols like the NFL?
You'll be back in like three days?
I'm waiting on them to get two negatives once they do that.
Because as soon as they were tested positive, I went and got tested negative.
And then I went again to make sure.
And I was like, yo, I can't come back over there.
I still have to protect myself at the end of the day.
Right.
That ass.
And if you ever needed
a better line
to get some cheating off,
that's like foolproof.
Yo, y'all sick?
I got to protect my health
and y'all's.
It's going to be right up
the street in the hotel.
I don't even know
no girls with cars
or no girls that can make it up there.
My Uber broke.
Yeah, like, I'm going to just be in there on a dolo solo tip,
like just waiting for y'all to recover.
I've been missing out on some sleep.
Give me a little exercise.
You doing push-ups?
No, I'm doing sleep-ups.
That's got to be one nice thing is you can get some real sleep.
Yes. Yes. You got to find the positive thing is you can get some real sleep. Yes.
Yes.
You got to find the positive and the negative, bro.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, no.
I was, you know, catch up on my TV shows.
He's in there having a blast with his little PlayStation.
I don't have my PlayStation.
Oh, yeah.
Why are you bringing a PlayStation?
He bought a PlayStation.
I don't have my PlayStation.
Oh, yo, you can't trick me.
I'm not tricking you.
You left your PlayStation home so your girl wouldn't think you was having too much fun,
and you bought a PlayStation.
Found one.
There's a place that, or you got the Apple TV where a PlayStation pops out.
Ice got gadgets.
He does have gadgets.
Ice got holograms.
Ice got shit where he was taking shit from home on the road, plugging up, and from hotel
to hotel, you was the same screen, and yeah.
Yeah, he's a magician, man.
I forgot I showed you that.
He's a magician, man.
He's a magician, that guy.
PlayStation remote shit.
Yeah, yeah, buddy.
What?
Ish, forget it.
Don't worry about it.
We not doing that right now.
You don't need the PlayStation where you are?
I can leave it home.
I can play my PlayStation right now.
Ish, this is not a game or podcast.
Yo, this nigga special.
But speaking of games,
I figured out the problem mine and your disconnect you and i ishmael i wasn't even aware we had a
disconnect but i'm we have mad disconnects that you're aware of okay you know we be disconnecting
we lose service a lot sometimes but that's hard thing to do but I figured it out where in friendship like we go wrong
because like you're older than me
right
and round of applause
for you being your age
with your hairline intact like this
because that's a big feat
that is man
that's something to be proud of
he know that's a big accomplishment
amongst the blacks
right but listen to this
you and I
though we come from the same place, we can no longer share experiences the way that we used to, right?
Like, so you can go to a strip club and have the time of your life, and I could go to the very same strip club and not have the time of my life, right?
Now, why is that?
There's a few reasons.
Well, what's some of the main reasons fame yeah your your alphabets have moved up on the celebrity chart so we could do the very same
see it's like the going spots anonymous and have a blast anonymously which means no patrons coming up to him, no
girls acting doofier than they normally do,
no extra long conversations
from men. It's none
of that. He gets to go in discreetly,
sit somewhere, canvas
the scene, and
customize it to his liking. It's just getting a little more famous
now, though, I'm sure. It is.
I'm sure you're getting some
in-your- ear rap freestyles
when you go out.
Nah.
Really?
They coming.
They coming.
They coming.
Your vagina rate
hasn't,
people haven't thrown you
vagina in a larger clip
since you've started this pod.
No?
Nah, really.
All jokes aside,
not even trying to be funny.
Nah.
You know what I get?
More male
support. Yeah. Like dudes be in my DM. is hot not even trying to be funny no you know what i get more male uh support yeah like dudes
be in my dm you know i'm saying all that shit like i don't know how do you guys the girls don't
really do that i didn't know you girls and girls be more proud too they know you got a girl assuming
that might be it that's probably it it. So with Joe and I,
you go ahead and tell your story. It came in here about a week ago,
two weeks ago.
He said, yo,
fuck all them spots we be going to, dog.
Member 35,
still right out there, yo.
Nah, nah
You can't bring no phone
So it's not mean that exclusivity
That you in there
The girls get naked
They kinda upstairs
It's a private spot
They're making me sound like
The girls get naked, huh?
Perverted Pauly or some motherfucking body
No, no, no
For y'all that don't live around here
In New York, New Jersey
You have to wear clothes
Correct
If alcohol is being served you have to wear clothes. Correct. If alcohol is being served, you have to wear clothes.
So it's not that it's just such a creep, but the laws are being circumvented.
They don't serve alcohol.
It's BYOB.
It's BYOB.
You drink in the parking lot?
No.
Oh, you can bring it inside.
If it's BYOB in New Jersey, if they serve alcohol, they can't be naked.
If they have a liquor license, you can't get naked.
There was a hillbilly
strip club we used to go to in PA.
I think it was called Barefax.
It was full nude,
but you could drink, but you had to drink in the parking lot.
So you would just bring a case of beer and step
outside. That is some white shit.
That is some white bullshit. No question.
That is some white shit. The Barefax.
Hee-haw in the
parking lot.
That shit might still be there.
Shout out to Bear Facts if you're still around.
So, it say yo 935 is popping over there.
I say not worried.
It's still popping over there this weekend.
We out.
I'm like, damn, y'all out.
Let's make it a podcast trip.
I'll head on over to 35.
Saturday come.
I done rearranged my old plans everywhere. Give me the suspense music.
Saturday comes.
I've rearranged my plans.
I'm free.
I done fought with the women in my life I needed to fight with to get free for the night.
That man got a little nanny sitter for the night.
Mom, watch your grandson for a minute.
I'm going to head on out.
Turn up for a little bit.
Looks fast.
Call Ice up mad early like a thirst bucket.
I'm not done.
Call Ice up mad early like a thirst bucket.
It had to be like 5, 6 o'clock.
I said, yeah.
I said, yeah.
What time we heading out tonight?
Ice says, darned us the things.
It cut off right in time.
Gave me the whole spiel about that he gave y'all,
yo, my family got COVID.
Oh, I got to go check and see and make sure I'm safe and healthy.
And I'm like, you're a fucking loser.
Anyway, I hang up with him.
Knew he was out.
He was out the game.
I hit Ish.
Ish don't answer.
That's cool.
Ish don't talk to me if it ain't podcast day.
So I'm like, you know what?
I'm invested already. You going i'm out dolo my people said it was gonna be a good time i got
my little mask on no one should know it's me and i'm gonna do my incognito thing for those of you
that don't know i'll make a big fuss when i go places. I don't Joe Bud in and out. I think all that shit is corny. I just go.
Unless the line is long.
Then Pump It Up comes out of my pocket.
Oh, in a heartbeat.
Because you try to go get brunch in Houston.
And there's a line.
I start doing Pump It Up.
But anyway, long story, Les Longparks.
I get there.
I walk up.
There's a commotion in the front.
It's like a whole squad of white boys, I guess, couldn't make up their mind if they wanted to go in or not.
The price was too high.
Off-duty cops screaming at them.
Yo, you broke asses, get the fuck out of here.
If you ain't got the money, make a decision right now.
Get the fuck off the premises.
I'm like, whoa, it must be hot in there.
That's what half of me said.
The other half said, these white boys ain't the type of dudes
that be going the way I be going.
I don't know if...
So if they hear...
They're more of a Fairfax crowd.
If they hear trying to scope out the scene,
eh, this could be good.
This could be good.
Let me not judge it from far.
Walk up.
I got my mask on.
It's just me.
Solo dolo.
This cop guy says,
ID. Like, they not This cop guy says, ID.
Like, they not playing about getting in this place.
Like, it's traffic in the front, man.
Big dudes, promoters.
The dudes sitting on the chair over there, they got four security guards. How's the place look from the outside?
Nice?
I ain't looking, because I'm just looking at people.
Head on a swivel.
Head on a swivel.
I ain't got time to look inside.
I give him my ID.
He looks up at me in the eye.
He says, no way.
Did you say way?
You're lying, dog.
No, mind you, I'm on my way.
I'm on my way to meet him.
He goes in dolo, being grown, being sassy.
If you wouldn't have went in by yourself.
The guy says, no way.
I said, it's me.
So now he's trying to alert the rest of the people
in the front that it's me
but without me seeing
but I'm right in front of you
he doing all types of
he doing all that
I'm like yo dog
yo what's up dog so he says He does it by the toe button. He doing all that. I'm like, yo, dog.
Yo, what's up, dog?
So he says, you want a table?
Nigga, I'm by myself.
I said, nigga, it's me.
Fuck no. He said, I'm going to get such and such, and he's going to come over here and take right care of you.
Whoever such and such was was right there.
He had to call him? So he calls such and such.
Such and such come over to me.
He say, what can I do for you?
I say, yo, dog.
Yo, I just want to go in here in the corner.
What do you mean?
What can you do?
I would like to look at some ass, sir.
I just want to walk in here and see what's going on.
He say, you know there's no phones, right?
So I run.
I throw my phone in the car.
Now they having a huddle.
They calling an audible.
So I come. He says, this is what I'll do for you. What car are you in, y'all? Your car or yours? No, it was in the truck. Now they having a huddle. They calling an audible. So I come.
He says,
this is what I'll do for you.
What car you was driving?
Your car or you was in truck?
Oh, okay.
Thank God.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Y'all don't drive my car.
That's shit.
But anyway,
so he says,
this is what I'm going to do for you.
I'm going to get you a table
and put you over here.
Whatever you need,
some girls,
just let me know.
Anything you need for the night. I said, nah, that's good looking out no that's hardcore walk in they pat me down
we walk in it's so stupid and this shit look like
it looked like indoor barcode Like barcode And Elizabeth The pool
The outdoor
It looked like
Indoor
Smaller
Like white
South Jersey barcode
If you're familiar with
Elizabeth
I'm not
Paint a different picture
Big indoor
Pool
Looking thing
Not pool
But sunken
Okay
Like a sunken
Middle
Big
With TVs
You're going down
Yeah you're going down
Gotcha
You walk in And there's the outskirt where there's tables over here and a rail.
And they have it upstairs.
A little balcony type of situation.
Big, nice establishment.
But anywhere where there's a table, it's action going on.
I don't want no table.
I don't want to be by no action.
I find me a spot and I stand there.
And then chicks just started acting doofy.
Like, because I think the whole place knew it was me now.
Nigga, they hit the button.
You seen the Players Club? You seen. Nigga, they hit the button. You seen the Players Club?
You seen the Players Club when they hit the button?
And then they all start coming in front of me,
acting mad, doofy, and stupid.
Money.
Money.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm just sitting there with my mask on.
How are the ladies?
Were they of your...
Not for me.
Not for you, okay.
Just not for me.
Yeah, sure, sure.
I mean, if you're looking all stupid and doofy,
like, what are you doing?
We're in the middle of central Jersey.
This is doing a cabbage patch or some shit.
I don't know what they were.
I don't need to be sure.
What ass nigga?
I'm not Roger Rabbit.
I'm like, fam, you gonna try and look sexy or nah?
Like, yo, I don't know what this new thing is
where the strippers just do what they feel like it now.
Like, they don't do.
They don't really try to get
yeah, they don't
really selling fantasy
out there no more.
They just
a drill has ruined
the strippers.
Drill has somehow
contaminated the strippers.
Now they trying to
pop smoke in front of you.
Rest in peace, Pop Folk.
Yo.
They doing arm guns and shit?
Yeah.
That shit is just
air shooting you.
What about this and sexy?
Some niggas like that.
Anyway, I walked right out of there.
How long did you stay?
It wasn't very long.
Half hour?
Never.
10 minutes?
About 20.
Fam, I would have been.
It wasn't even that long, I don't think.
Yeah, it probably wasn't.
Because I live, no lie, probably wasn't cause I live no lie
probably
and then the other thing
12 minutes
15 minutes from the spot
but then the other thing though
right
forget how the girls look
right
cause beauty is subjective
through the eye of both
sure
I have this thing
I told you about
I'm walking out the strip club
if I don't see one black girl working
I said that to you
before
I said that to you before
I don't know if you heard me say it.
Yeah, you said it.
I didn't see a black girl.
I got to get out of here.
So I've only been there once.
The day I went, it was my man birthday.
I go down there.
I've never been.
I used to been there before.
I've been there before.
You're a frequenter.
Not frequent, but it's been over a year since I've been.
I've never been.
I've been in there a couple times.
And they don't care.
We do have to start a podcast at some point.
No, this is pretty interesting.
You think so?
If we would have gone together, that takes away the people coming up to you,
talking your head off.
You dolo.
Now the owner want to talk.
The bodyguards want to talk.
The bouncers want to talk.
If you come with the crew, you sit in the corner, you get a table,
y'all just be chilling.
Nobody fuck with you.
And not for nothing, if you're in central jersey as a celebrity
it's probably a little different
exactly
they don't see
no disrespect to central jersey
obviously
no
jersey will never be
wild three of us
no
you could go solo dolo
to a
a new york street
strip club
that sees more celebrities
ball players here every week
they know how to move
right
they know how to move
no
not just that
the spot
it closes at 5.
So, Joby trying to get to the spots early.
It was like not even 12 o'clock yet, really.
It ain't popping there yet.
So, they said basically.
It was 1230.
It was about 12.
It just turned 12 when we was talking.
But they said the spot picks up around 1-ish, 2-ish.
That's when everybody start coming in.
Bam, I am going to bed.
I'm not disagree bed. What the hell
are they? No, I'm not talking about you in the spot. I'm just talking about
in planning your
day and night. I'm not
planning to some people plan. You got to plan
for that at my age. You got to plan to be
out at three and four.
No, but if you get in the spot at one
ish. You know what your day, you know what your night
got to look like for you to get to the spot at one a.m.? Honestly, let's talk about it. No, we for that. You get the spot at 1-ish. Yo, you know what your night got to look like for you to get to the spot at 1 a.m.?
Honestly, let's talk about it.
No, we do that.
1 a.m. isn't crazy.
We staying out until 3 or 4 is crazy to me.
Fam, I'm talking about today at our big age.
What we have to do to land somewhere at 1 a.m.
That's what I'm saying.
You got to prep. Come on, man.. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
You got to prep.
Come on, man.
That whole shit got to be scheduled.
My whole night is...
Let's prep.
Let's prep.
Yeah, I'm not just on a whim.
Yo, we out.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'll go to some local, like, across the street shit.
We don't have...
We don't really have that.
But even if we did, that's what I'm saying.
Look what time they close.
Yo, all the little cool spots we got to run to in Jersey, they like couple spots.
So now you forced to go in there and steal somebody girl.
I hate when that happens.
Why?
You good for that too.
Me or you?
Me or you?
I don't even know.
Me or you?
You.
Me or you?
You.
You was Mr. Steal Your Girl long before Mr. Steal Your Girl, boy.
No.
You didn't play. I was still a nigga girl. That nigga had hazel eyes and drug money. Come was Mr. Steal Your Girl long before Mr. Steal Your Girl, boy. No. You didn't play.
He was still a nigga girl.
That nigga had hazel eyes and drug money.
Come on now.
Come on now.
Come on now.
It's me.
I know what hazel eyes, drug money, and a little MPV did back in the day.
What's wrong?
I know what the combo did.
Yo, what's wrong?
Little bubble lex coupe, something.
I know what was going on.
This nigga is ignorant.
Listen, I'm stepping into my truth now
It's over
Yeah
That's it
I was about to say
That's it
That's it
Yeah no
I've been listening back
To these last pods
I like me stepping into
I'm stepping into
Who I be
What's all the little girl memes
I'll tell you
You gotta look in the mirror
And remind yourself
Who you are
Show them the voice
Nah I did ask
Alright mic check Mic check Mic, mic check, mic check.
Y'all good?
Y'all good?
Y'all good?
Mental health is good?
Yes, sir.
Awesome.
Hey, what the fuck is that?
Yo, these niggas be making me mad.
That was the remix.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's wilding.
Anyway, and y'all ain't going to pick up the dead air while I'm playing.
Nah, at all. That was the African Bambaataa mix. Yo, man, it's a lot of brothers, and y'all ain't gonna pick up the dead air while I'm talking. Nah, at all.
That was the African Bambaataa mix.
Yo, man, there's a lot of brothers out there flaking and perpetrating, but scared to kick reality.
Man, you've been doing all this dope producing.
You ain't had a chance to show them what time it is.
So what you want me to do?
It's precious now.
I'm expressing with my full capabilities.
And now I'm living in collection of facilities.
Cause some don't agree with how I do this
I get straight and meditate like a Buddhist
I'm dropping flavor, my behavior is hereditary
But my technique is very necessary
Blame it on Ice Cube
Because he said it gets funky
When you got a subject in a blanket
Add it on a dope beat
And it'll make you think
Some of the stuff that just tickle me big to my stomach
Cause they don't work like this
You know what, I won't hesitate to diss one or two before I'm through It feels great. Mic check one two one two mic check one two one two. West Coast what up dog?
You know what I won't hesitate to diss one or two before I'm through so don't try to sing this.
Some drop science while I'm dropping English.
Even if Yella makes it acapella.
I still express yo I don't smoke weed or sex.
Cuz it's known to give a brother brain damage.
And brain damage on the mic don't manage nothing.
Same thing Neil deGrasse said He really turned around on that little
Oh, 180
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I'm back on the track, spread yourself I'm back on Still doing that shit, huh Dre? Oh, for sure Yeah Check me out
It's still Dre Day, nigga
A.K., nigga
Though I've grown a lot, can't keep it home a lot
It's number three for the spots that I've known to rock
You hear the bass from the truck when I'm on the block
Ladies, they pay homage
But haters say Dre fell off
Pow, nigga, my last album was the front
They wanna know if he still got it
They say rap's changed
They wanna know how I feel about it
And you ain't up on pain
Dr. Dre is the name
I'm ahead of my game
Still puffin' my leaf
Still fuck with the beats
Still not lovin' police
Still rock my khakis
With a cup and a crease
Still got love for the streets
Reppin' 213
Still the V for bang
Still doin' my thing
Since I left, ain't too much change
Still, I'm representin' for the gangsters all across the world
Still, hittin' them counters and them lolos, girl
Still, takin' my time to perfect the beat
And I still got love for the streets, it's the D.R.A.
Still, I'm representin' for the gangsters all across the world
Still, hittin' them counters and them lolos, girl
Still, takin' my time to perfect the picture
And I still got love with a strong
Alright, this is it
I forgot how amazing this Compton 2 album is
That's not the name of this album
Compton 2
Family problems
It ain't easy hagglin' those knees
Why am I sayin' 2? Cause this is a the name of this album. Just kind of scrumptious.
Why am I saying two?
Because this is a... What's that album
that was supposed to come out
that never came out?
Detox.
Yeah, Detox.
Yeah, we're done.
All right, mic check.
One, two, one, two.
Young boys, y'all.
Good back there.
Tom Stamkiller, you good?
Harrison, you in my check?
Yeah.
Shout out to everybody feeling good, feeling great. Wait a minute. Everything you in my check, boy It all falls back on me I said it all falls back on me
It all falls back on me
Now somehow it always falls back on me
No matter where we are, no matter what we do
It's all me
No matter where we are, it's all me
It's the way it's always gon' be
Listen to me, it's kinda funny how they fall back on me
I used to never get a call back on me
Before the money they didn't see me like it's dark
And it's all black on me
But now they switchin' cause the car black on me
It wasn't always that way
We was recordin' on the phone track
Dr. Dre is amazing
I don't need to tell anybody in hip-hop that but
There's no mattress, no table, no cable
And all I hear is my girl in my ear
And this nigga Eazy askin' for his car back on me
I never saw this happenin' from that far back for his car back homie I would've never saw this happening from that
far back homie What it came to be
Would've never believed Never never never lived in the DDT
Of all fucking dreams and realities What you call that homie?
Yeah, it was something to me No eat, no sleep, wasn't nothing to me
Can't always be how you want it to be And I'm the one they looking up to
Fuck the expectancy
But it all falls back on me
Sometimes or somehow
It all falls back on me
And I said it always falls right back on me
No matter where we are, no matter what we do
It's always back on me
Feeling up to you, this is the way it's always going
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It's the way it's always gone. It's the way it's always gone. Welcome to episode 496 of the Joe Budden Podcast.
I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host, Joe Budden.
Here with a few of my really cool guy friends.
Parks is here.
Ish is here.
Ice is here. Young Boy is in the back. Timestamp Killer is here Ice is here
Youngboy's in the back
Timestamp Killer's here
Corey is not here cause he has food poisoning
or something of the sort
Nigga can't even eat spaghetti as a whole
That's what I mean about all that healthy eating
Nigga spent his whole life in whole foods
Vegan
I don't eat pork
I don't smoke, I don't drink
Yeah and you don't eat pork, I don't smoke, I don't drink. Yeah, and you can't eat spaghetti.
I had spaghetti.
Hey, I've done everything to not be here, and I eat spaghetti just fine.
God is the ultimate in charge, Corey.
Someone probably snuck a little swine in his spaghetti.
Corey don't believe in God.
Well, that's why he can't eat spaghetti.
And God sat his ass down.
Spaghetti.
This nigga stupid.
Because I can't believe you don't believe.
But anyway.
How y'all doing, man?
What's up?
Great.
I'm chilling.
What's up?
How we feeling?
Good.
What's on your minds?
What do you want to use your platform to share?
What do you want to get off your chest?
Shout out to y'all, man.
We one week away.
Let's make it.
Let's make it.
Let's make it to the end of the year, man.
Seem like a lot to ask.
Yeah.
I'm not starting with death.
No, no, no.
No.
Don't you try.
I wasn't saying it to do that.
It's just.
Okay.
Damn, I think 500 then is going to be the first episode of 2022, right?
Are you factoring in the vacations?
I am.
Oh, really?
That would be dope.
I'm not doing anything special with 500 episodes.
We'll say, yo!
Yay!
Hey, 500!
500!
What's up?
Anything interesting that you guys would like to begin with?
We were right here before Christmas.
I was telling guys in the car, does it feel like Christmas to you?
Nigga, you old.
It's just me.
Nah, I can't even.
I don't think that has nothing to do with it.
Shit.
I've been arguing with mothers out there about Friday.
Tell me more.
Fridays in general or Friday being Christmas Eve?
Friday being Christmas Eve Friday being Christmas Eve
okay
Christmas Eve is really
Christmas
in my
family historically
a lot of the moms
I'm learning
are angry
that
we're free
on Christmas Eve
I'm free
Christmas Eve
I didn't do that
I didn't bought my kid anything
I'm just wrapped up
I ain't sleeping
I don't live with mine
I'm free
You should be
That's what I'm saying
I'm lost at the argument
They don't like that
I'm lost
So what are you supposed to do?
They think that
We supposed to be not free
We supposed to be
Stressed like them
Yeah they running around
They putting up trees.
They doing everything.
They waking up with the baby, with your child.
And you just free on a Friday night to go turn up in the street?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I don't mean to be in the street, but yeah.
If you wanted it to be in the streets.
If I wanted it to be, I guess it could be.
Now, listen now.
As men, most men should do this.
You got to keep in mind how you look when you hit the street sometimes.
Like, if you hit the street on Christmas Eve,
just know you probably look like a piece of shit.
Yes.
Thirsty, at the very least.
You thirsty for the fun.
Which is awesome, because it means you're running into pieces of shit like you.
Good point.
There's another one of those Oh the night before Thanksgiving
Or Thanksgiving
Yeah
No Thanksgiving night
Yeah
Thanksgiving night
Oh you ditched the kids
Thanksgiving night
The night before
Is it true
Oh I love when you
That's the biggest turn up
That's the biggest one
The night before Thanksgiving
Yeah
There's one more
That's like
What's that other one
It's nothing
Who is
Mother's Day No nah Chill out Valentine's Day It's too far one it's not New Year's Mother's Day
no no chill out
it's not Valentine's Day
chill out
you outside dolo
but if you are out
and she out
you left him at home
what you been up to you deadbeat ass
why the fuck you
I know why I'm at home
It ain't like Father's Day
Alright come on
Alright
Something wrong with you
I ain't even saying nothing
Yeah
You right out there
On your own with that one
Go ahead Walt
Go ahead
Yeah yo
That it
Come on Where y'all wanna start man Alright we got a list Right out there on your own with that one. Go ahead, Walt. Go ahead. Yeah, yo. That it.
Come on.
Where y'all want to start, man?
All right. We got a list.
The lists have arrived.
It's that time.
It is December.
It is list time.
Merry Christmas.
Here's some lists.
I'm not going to participate in lists.
Yes, I am.
There's so much fun, man.
I can't slight anybody for doing them because they are a lot of fun.
It's fun for the brain exercise to try to rack your memory of what came out, what you felt when it came out.
And it makes you go back and listen to some shit that you kind of forgot about that you liked.
Yeah, I'm not slamming anybody that does a list.
Now, what I will slam is Agenda.
When some of these lists come about.
Some of y'all are not being true to your hearts.
Nah. True to friendship. A lot of. Some of y'all are not being true to your hearts. Nah.
True to friendship.
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of true to friendship going on.
Which, you know, I do respect sort of, but not really when it comes to a list.
I do a list.
I'm not really friends with none of these niggas.
I just respect the ones that'll shoot you when you see them.
So, I try to be a little respectful of them.
They earned it.
I be home though
Some of them niggas
Will come to y'all
So B.Dot sets us off
Naturally
B.Dot
As of late
Has become a list guy
He's a controversial
Virtual list guy
He's a controversial
List guy
Purposely
Yeah
I ain't mad at it
Hey people get paid from it
So B.D dot is doing the 25
best rap songs of 2021 in no particular order and his list is as follows nardo wick who want smoke
freddie gives uh big boss rabbit tyler creator run it up con with a machine scatterbrain money bag
yo time today cardi b up me goes having our way key glock i can show you megastallion thought
shit j cole hunger on Hillside,
Drake, Lemon Pepper Freestyle, Mikami.
I don't know what that song is.
Au revoir.
Au revoir.
Au revoir.
Dude, these new guys really fucking do some titles, don't they?
Titles and names.
He's Haitian.
He's French.
He raps in French.
Au revoir.
What does that mean?
Au revoir.
Au revoir.
I want to hear that song
Wale Lovemore
City Girls
Twerkalator
Jim Jones
Lose Lose
Currency
Jermaine Dupri
Nazi
PMD
Lil Baby
and Lil Dirk
Hats Off
West Side Gun
Hell on Earth
Part 2
Isaiah Rashad
Headshot
Kanye West
Life of the Party
Loot
Birdsong
Brass
Salute
Fabio Farn
Storytime
Larry June
6am
Salsa Leto That is his list I'm not mad at most of the names Radio Foreign, Storytime, and Larry June, 6am in Sausalito.
That is his list.
I'm not mad at most of the names.
Loved Larry June's projects this year.
Loved Malcommy's projects this year.
Loved Tyler's project.
25 best rap songs.
That's where it gets a little sticky.
Okay. Because I'm with you. Some of these a little sticky. Okay.
Because I'm with you.
Some of these projects were amazing.
Yeah.
Do they have a song that makes the 25 best rap song list?
Maybe not.
Even if they do, I don't think it's the ones he picked.
That's my issue.
This seems like a... Honestly,
I'm going to tell you
what I took from this list.
And then y'all
can do what y'all want.
Oh, you better tell some truth.
I'm sitting here
being quiet
to not tell truth.
All right,
well, I'm going to tell you
this is what I take
from this list.
This is Ice's truth.
Oh, let me get...
How do you spell that again?
Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
L-E-G-G-G.
Am I going on a list?
No, I mean,
I don't know,
but when you line it up like this.
Okay.
I'll let you cue it up.
And even if you don't, I'm going to grab the rebound.
Go on the ledge.
Slow walk on the ledge, too.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm going to take a slow walk.
Hey, I was drinking. Yeah, I'm gonna take a slow walk.
Hey, I get that.
It's just still hard to slow.
Yeah. Go uptown to the Bronx
and boogie down
get strong on the island
of the Comfort layer brown.
All right.
To me,
it looks like he took
the names
who should be on this list
for whatever reason.
Uh-huh.
And then just grabbed, randomly pick the song.
Like, all right, I know I got to have this person on here.
Okay, give me this one.
I know I got to have this person on here because of whatever reason.
Uh-huh.
So this is more of a, I have to include these names.
These ain't the best 25 songs of the year.
I agree.
I agree. These aren't the best songs from the year. I don't. I agree.
These aren't the best songs from the people.
That's what he's saying.
That's what I'm saying.
This is just, I got to include these people no matter what.
But maybe he really liked these songs.
Okay.
Maybe he did.
Straightening needs to be on there.
You got the Migos on there For having our way And not straightening
Where is seeing green?
The Nicky, Drake, and Wayne record
Okay
You got Drake on there
Only for Lemon Pepper Freestyle
That's a good choice though
It's not a good choice
For Drake?
If we doing the best rap songs
That's not a good choice for Drake
You got
Like it's records on here that
Well what would you
have liked to see
from Drake
that song
on the album
where he was going
the one I remember
the 7am
oh that's what
I'm confusing it for
no
Lemon Pepper Freestyle
the shit that him and Ross did
oh yeah
okay I'm wrong
yeah
it should have been
put the list back up Duke
yeah like
what are we talking about?
I don't know the name of it, but that's the one.
Terrible song titles.
That's the one.
Yeah.
This is just, I'm going to pick a record off of these names.
EPMD was not Nas' best song.
At all.
Or second or third or fourth or fifth.
Run It Up wasn't Tyler's best record.
No, it wasn't.
Freddie Gibbs shouldn't be on this list right now.
You telling me Twerkulator goes on this list?
That's not my genre.
Twerkulator is not a 50 best rap song this year.
It didn't work.
That other shit should definitely be on this list.
Top 10.
This is just a bad list.
This shit with the salmon jumped up and ran off the plate at the strip club.
What's the name of this shit? This just ain't now i know right how much fun the government be having like when they look
at some of the shit you niggas send in as your bills and your receipts and just what you've been
doing with your time energy and your money because they got to sit there and be like, you're a liar.
Prove it.
Right?
So now, I wish I could just follow the money like the government does.
And that's what I'm just going to start doing now.
I wish that I could see
how all you journalist niggas got paid for the year.
And then I'm going to understand your list.
There you go.
BDOT
are you taking money
for your list
now I think you have
too much integrity for that
but either that
or
now I'm the wrong person
to say something about it
because I don't even listen to hip hop
y'all got to tell me
what's going on
but
back in blood
you'll be on there somewhere absolutely that's the one 100% that's the one hey I ain't got to tell me what's going on. But Back in Blood should be on here somewhere.
Absolutely.
That's the one.
That's the one.
Hey, I ain't got to listen to rap to know that.
And Twerkalator shouldn't be on here.
And Lose Lose ain't Jim's best song, actually,
that he put out this fucking year,
now that I think about it.
Jim put out some heat.
I don't know who Lute is,
so I'm shutting up.
Lute's dope.
I played a Lute song, so I'm shutting up. Lute's dope. I played Lute's hold here.
He's dope.
This is a clout-chasing list.
This is a...
Yo, beat out his clout-chasing, yo.
This is a clout-chasing list.
I'm just calling like I see it, yo.
Now I got to do it.
And this brings up our earlier conversation
of how Grzelda has contaminated
hip-hop you niggas are backpack clout chasers now there's a little bit of that y'all niggas are not
that invested into some of this shit like y'all are perpetrating a fraud to be i don't believe it
let me blow my voice because y'all think i'm a lunatic when i do that i just don't believe it
i don't believe it no sir re bob you know what they're doing jo I just don't believe it. I don't believe it. No sirree, Bob. You know what they're doing, Joe?
They don't want to be looked at
as ignoring that part of the genre.
I know, because you can't now,
because we'll outcast you
if you ignore it.
Yeah, right.
So it's like,
I got to act like I know what's up,
and I got to go and get all of this,
hit these check marks.
I have to put a record by
this person, this person,
this person, this person.
Not saying he has it, but he probably in a hurry have to.
And I'm killing B-Dot, but it's probably only 10 of these I would move.
Like, who wants smoke should be there.
Yeah, who wants smoke should definitely be there.
Time today, of course, should be there.
Up should be there, of course.
Oh, actually, maybe I am killing him for most of this list.
I'm done with this list.
But in a flip side, B-Dot do this on purpose.
Yeah, he tried to-
Like, the point of the list is to get you upset, to get everybody arguing, because you need your list to do traction.
So, you're going to put this out.
And B-Dot does do like a versus show, right?
With Complex?
He does.
Yeah, so it makes sense for his brand.
Life of the Party should be on there.
No, Life of the Party should be on there.
If you're picking one Kanye record, I'm not putting Life of the Party.
No, that's the one.
No, that should be on there.
That's the one.
No, Kanye just need to have more than one record on there.
Or that.
Yeah.
Because that 5-year-old Kanye record is supposed to be on here.
Jail.
No, I'm not talking about that.
I know.
Off the grid. I know what you're saying. I'm adding. And Jail. No, I'm not. Not over. Off the grid.
I know what you're saying.
I'm adding.
And he sang jail.
I'm adding.
I wouldn't be mad if Kanye had three songs on here.
At all.
But they called me a dick rider because they said I'm trying to get a Kanye interview.
That's what they say now.
They'd find all new ways to kill me and slam me.
It's fine.
What else do we have that's important?
I'm sure we'll get a lot more bad lists before the
season's over
oh I got one I'm putting out
I told you
you got a bad list
oh yeah
I do
I just do my
albums of the year
and I'm pretty sure
people are gonna hate
half of it
so what
but see mine is
cause I thought about
what you said earlier
Parks
we said you have to go back
and remember what came out
when it comes to the album
of the year list
I do mine as the year goes along.
I started this. The albums that
stuck out to me early in the year
that I liked right away, I write them.
And if something comes that make me take something
off, but my list grows
throughout the year though. Interesting.
It's a little easier that way than having to look,
go back and see, okay, what dropped this year?
Stuff like that. Yeah, it's hard.
I'm going to do an R&B list.
You should.
That's what I'm going to do.
Y'all can add raps.
I ain't going to intervene. Yeah, you should.
Cleo Soul came out this year, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes, she did.
But a lot of, all the girls came out.
They did.
And Ella Mai says she dropping soon.
I don't think she'll drop before the year.
Anybody that didn't drop is dropping soon.
The girls have gotten it.
Don't get me started on the girls
you think we still got drops coming
yeah
this year
SZA got a drop
oh I don't know about this year
I'm talking about this year
I think it's here
it's a dub
it's over
this year it's finished
yeah
yeah but I'm still looking
for who comes back
with a bang
once that January term is up
what the end of January
early February
who's going to get this shit
rocking first quarter?
That's what I want to see.
Chris Brown.
Trey.
He already said it.
He said January starts breezy season.
He said that?
Yeah.
Oh, well, there it is.
Yep.
He said breezy season
starts in January.
He said that's all I needed to see.
Everybody else has to move.
That's how that goes.
Even though when Chris come, his haters be trying to come out. That's okay. They come out and they be loud. That's how that goes. Even though when Chris come, his haters be trying
to come out. That's okay. Like they come out and they be loud.
That's okay. But Chris
don't play with y'all. That boy
is good. Alright, what else
do we have? What else do we have?
Congratulations are in order. Yeah.
For Dirk and India.
Dirk and India, you proposed
at the show. That's a lot of phones.
They look beautiful. They look wealthy. That at the show. That's a lot of phones. They look beautiful.
They look wealthy.
That's right now.
That's beautiful.
Oh, he made a turn ahead.
Oh, that's dope.
That's ill.
She got down on her knee, too.
No, I'm just playing.
Well, yeah, this is dope.
Congratulations, man.
She did get down on her knee, right?
No, it's dope. And he speaks so highly of his girl, yo. I think that dope. Congratulations, man. She did get down on you, right? Nah, it's dope.
And he speaks so highly of his girl, yo. I think that's so hard, yo.
He speaks so highly of his girl every interview.
What's hard?
Giving it up.
Them both getting down.
That's super hard, yo.
Look, oh my God, yo.
That's a queen right there.
They crushed that.
Yeah.
They crushed that.
Now, right, this is beautiful.
But in my mind, they was kind of married already.
True.
Yeah.
Good that they made it official.
But if I wake up and you grab the gun out the dresser.
Once we shoot the niggas out the house, it's I do.
It's I do.
Yeah.
And the niggas retreat.
Once they retreat, oh, no, it's lit.
This is a for life thing.
This is for life, yeah, mama.
Seen a lot of girls that wouldn't grab the gun out the dresser and shoot the ops out the crib talking about goals.
Goals might be another word.
I'm tired of goals.
People need to look up.
I'm tired of goals.
People need to put more. I'm tired of energy. Like, is it a short-term goal? I'm tired of goals. People need to look up. I'm tired of goals. People need to put more.
I'm tired of energy.
Like, is it a short-term goal?
Big tired of energy.
Oh, come on.
Don't lose energy.
No, no, no.
Don't get rid of energy, please.
I'm talking about when they say, like,
anytime, especially with these two,
anytime Dirk does something for her,
oh, big energy, that's the energy I like.
No, I'm talking about that way,
when they use it in that sense.
Energy got to go.
Energy, goals, and vibes. When they say that, they mean currency. That's a nice ring that sense. Energy gotta go. Energy goes and vibes.
When they say that,
they mean currency.
That's a nice ring too.
There you go.
They just mean currency.
That was nice.
Not spitter either.
That is a nice ass ring.
That's a nice motherfucking ring.
Yeah, but you'll put that ring
on your girl
if you know she'll shoot the fucking hop away from her finger.
You're right.
I'm serious.
No, no, no.
You are right.
A lot of men, I've gone out shopping for rings.
This dummy said she's going to shoot.
And I worry about putting the big, big, that type of ring on your girl finger and she wears it every day.
Right?
Uh-huh.
That's inviting heat to your girl.
It is.
Y'all be trying to laughing at me for it.
That was funny.
That was dope. This nigga said she's going to shoot
the opp away from her finger.
That's funny, son. The opp came
in the crib and she tried me if
you want. I'm going to bust you right through this bubble goose.
That is real shit, though. You don't want to put something on your girl's hand
that you got to worry about her
twice as much, three times, ten times as much.
If I know my girl can hold her own
wear that big ring
you niggas try her
if you want
she's not for play play
it's such a slap in the face
when they take the ring off
and throw it
during an argument
that you spend
all your months
trying to find
the best ring possible
spend all your spanky
on the best ring possible
your woman is so
disrespectful yo
I don't know if I would I don't know if I would speak for three days.
Serious.
A whole three?
She care about a whole three.
She just threw the ring for him.
She ain't care.
Nah.
I spent all that time and energy into that ring.
And you just threw it in the fucking sink.
Oh, nah. The sink? The sink? No no you know they don't know where it ever landed always land somewhere bad through the drain or
oh yeah okay okay yeah you yeah I'm listening yeah one day we need episode
dedicated to women arrogance like some women think they should keep the ring.
You want to talk about women arrogance?
They want to leave you, but keep the ring.
I don't understand that thinking.
It's a gift.
I wouldn't do it if I was in what state we live in.
I keep telling you, I'm never leaving New Jersey.
You might as well look at me like Frank Sinatra, bitch.
I'm never leaving New Jersey.
It's not a gift?
Not in New Jersey?
In New Jersey?
Nah, school me.
I don't know.
No, in New Jersey, an engagement ring is for purpose of engagement.
And the second that that's no longer the plan, that ring has to go back.
By law.
That's ill.
That's how it should be.
It's not a gift.
Learn me something.
It wasn't a gift.
No.
No, but that was with intention.
I like that.
I don't know if I agree 100%.
I never even thought about the laws of engagement rings.
Yeah, I don't know if I agree with it wholeheartedly.
Huh?
What?
I'm surprised.
You know I ride with the niggas, but.
I got some gifts.
If she's on TV letting this nigga all touch my gift.
Hey, T-Boo, yo.
Yo, nigga, you couldn't hug somewhere else?
Yo, you stupid.
Yo, nigga.
Yo, what's wrong with you?
What?
What you doing?
Oh, man.
It was only my life, man.
Come on.
Yo, but he was talking about
um
arrogance in women
I saw a lot of women
jump to the screen
and take that damn
stupid
what
I saw a lot of women
talking about
that
when
when it's time for the engagement
it's
they have to
kind of be
it has to be when they want it
like they have to be in on the
planning of the engagement
uh yeah I where do you be in on the planning of the engagement.
Yeah, where do you be hearing this stuff from? I read the timeline.
I see women going off.
You gotta stop reading the timeline.
But you should have an idea
how your woman would want to be proposed to.
But see, that's even that.
But you don't involve them in the planning.
Well, that's what I'm saying,
but why does how she wants to be proposed to matter?
Because she might want certain people there
or she might want a certain
situation. I'm proposing to you. Let's spend the rest of our
lives together. I'm putting this ring on you.
What do what you want
about this matters?
Because it's the internet age.
And that's my problem. Nobody wants to be
proposed to without getting it on camera.
To me, it looks phony.
That's not necessarily the thing.
What? It's not always
there needs to be
a photographer there
they might just want
to have their mom
in the vicinity
or something
which is understandable
call your mother afterwards
and show her the fucking ring
so what
see
I'm not disagreeing
with Ice
I'm never getting married
I'm not disagreeing
with Ice
like yo it's an intimate
moment between the man
and the woman
this is us
your girlfriends
don't need to be there
the cameraman don't need to be there.
The cameraman don't need to be there.
You don't got to have your best weave in.
You ain't got to have your good shoes on.
Whatever the case may be, it's an intimate setting between the two of us.
Y'all are lunatics, yo.
I know.
All right.
Y'all are lunatics.
Well, at least some of that shit Isha said was of lunacy.
Yeah.
The girls don't want to fucking just throw on some sweats with a hair scarf and go to the supermarket so now you're telling her to be
proposal ready
there's no such thing as proposal ready
there's no such thing as proposal ready
and number two
it don't gotta be lies
you know that you're planning on sharing a life with this person
for the rest of your life
you should consider them
word we're wild for saying person for the rest of your life and you should like desires you should consider them yeah word
wait we're wild for saying you should consider no i'm saying no i'm saying that those things
those exterior things shouldn't be of importance at all yo what your hair looks like should not
be done i don't even need yeah your nail should be done i don't even need you to be we're not
taking a picture of this
We are taking a picture of this
I'm not the public eye anyway
Me either
But pictures are not necessarily
For the public eye
And Instagram has maybe
Reshaped how we look at pictures
But they was taking pictures
Of proposals way back when
And hands with the ring one
And all that
And putting it in a little
Family photo album
So where does you
Have in a dope outfit
Come on in that
I never saw no picture Of my grandma, great grandma, nobody in some bullshit Sunday cleanup dress getting proposed to.
Like, what do you mean?
You should have consideration.
You should want your partner to look a certain way and feel a certain way when they're being proposed to.
I'm with you on like hiring photographers and all that shit.
But because to me, it's not a production. I'm with you on like hiring photographers and all that shit but when I proposed to my wife
we didn't have photographers there
but she was with the people
that she wanted to be there
when she got proposed to
and she looked nice
because we're out
at a nice dinner
that's nuts to me
to me
the people that she wants
to be there
when she gets proposed to
I decide when I propose to you
first off
but her people
are my people now
true
I want them to be there too
wait time out
not if you want them to be there,
then that's one thing.
Not if you just asking
a rhetorical question.
She got to answer back.
Okay.
She has to accept.
Yeah.
So you go ahead
and take your ass
to Olive Garden
and bend on one knee
if you want
and see how it's going to go for you.
So you're saying
the setting matters
as to whether she accepts or not?
I'm saying...
If that's the case,
I don't want to marry you anyway. Indeed. Wait, what? If the setting matters as to where she, whether she accept or not. I'm saying. If that's the case, I don't want to marry you anyway.
Indeed.
I'm with Ice.
You got me fucked up.
What?
If the setting matters whether you say I do or not.
You sound nuts.
Y'all are fucking nuts.
Y'all sound nuts.
Y'all are nuts.
I am with Ice.
The setting matters whether you say I do or not.
I wish I knew a girl.
I wish I could call a girl.
So let me ask you a question.
So you're saying.
Y'all like to do nothing nice for your women?
No, both of y'all.
I'm just asking.
I'm just asking this because you're saying that the setting matters, where you propose
and how-
Fam, if you are willing to spend the rest of your life with me, I don't give a fuck
if I propose in a cemetery on a garbage truck-
Nigga, I could roll over in bed and propose if you're willing to spend the rest of your
life with me.
What the fuck are y'all talking about?
It don't got to be a Mykonos on a white, sandy beach. No, it's not about Mykonos. Now you're doing it for other of your life with me. It don't gotta be a Mekonos on a white sandy beach.
Now you're doing it for other shit,
for external shit.
Yeah.
I'm on my eyes.
No,
you're not.
We're going to agree to disagree on that.
Y'all are bugging.
You want to,
this is a very important moment.
Can we talk now?
This is an important moment in both of your lives.
You don't want to remember at the McDonald's in Patterson.
No,
I want to take my wife to a fucking nice restaurant. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, McDonald's in Patterson. No, I want to take my wife to a fucking nice restaurant.
No, no, no.
Hold on.
Y'all got to talk.
Let us talk now.
Now that we making sense, you want to intervene.
Let us talk.
No, you don't agree with him.
I do agree with him.
I'm saying as a man, you should.
It's like almost saying.
You about to repeat yourself.
No, no, no.
You can't agree with him or repeat yourself.
I agree with what you're saying.
Me being the person that I am I wouldn't propose in some
you know in a bullshit setting
what I'm saying is that shouldn't be important
I would make it important
we're telling you to women it's important
we're not telling you
hey Joe and Parks feel it should be
this way so change your thinking
we're saying no women think this is
important
no time out.
Also, you as a man
should want to be
in a nice place.
Indeed.
Set it up the way
she wants to set it up.
Since she was small,
since she was small
in her head,
she has had a vision
of how this moment
is supposed to look
and feel for her.
This has nothing to do
with public spectacle, Instagram, or big production.
That's girls from young, yo.
You're right.
And I know a lot of women that got proposed to by the man they wanted to say yes to.
And because the setting wasn't right, they said, no, you're not going to ruin my moment I had since fucking childhood just because you want some bullshit right now.
When you get it together, we'll do it right.
I'm telling you,
I know women that have gone through that.
No, no, no.
I was about to say,
I personally know women.
Marriage.
I was about to say,
I stand corrected.
You were a thousand percent correct
up until the point
where you said they said no.
Because women dream about this moment
from when they coached
almost to be wives, right?
The knight in shining armor
coming through on a white horse, all of that i agree with that so i'm standing corrected you're
right if you don't say yes to the man that you want to marry because the setting isn't right
see i'm not i don't want to marry you anyway no this that that would signal a bigger fucking
problem because if you're just willy nilly
proposing to a woman
without knowing
how she would want it to look
why are you even getting married
you understand what I'm saying
like if you don't know
what her basic
desires would be
you probably should not
fucking marry this person
he's cooking
that's facts
no that's facts
that's a good point
I'm with you
that's a good point
hey Parnes
yo we up
listen
we don't really be on the same team.
Hey, look, y'all are two niggas that proposed.
So I'll shut the fuck up on that.
You got a good point.
And you should do it for self-respect.
Like, why would you, as a man, want to propose
at the bodega?
This is your moment, too.
Wait, wait, wait.
No, no, no. Let me continue to cook.
It's also like saying, like,
no, it's also like, now we just go cook. No, no, no, no. Get your shit off.
No, it's also like.
Get your shit off.
Now we can just go get married and do fucking shit.
This is a day for you too, yo.
And your family and your friends.
You should do no bullshit.
Like, what are you talking about?
You should want to put on for you.
Y'all had me.
All I'm saying is, if she will say no.
Yo, don't talk over his drop after you, bud.
Yo, don't talk over his drop.
Yo, don't talk over his drop.
It's Parks.
It's Parks.
Like I said, if she will say no to the person she wants to marry and spend the rest of her life with because she don't like the setting, I don't want to marry her anyway.
That's all I'm saying.
If the setting matters that much.
You're wrong.
I'll be wrong.
I'll be wrong.
No, no, no, no, no.
We're going to compartmentalize.
Let's do it.
That is fine. That is a new sentiment and new no. We're going to compartmentalize. Let's do it. That is fine.
That is a new sentiment and new sentence.
You're right.
But that's not where we started.
True.
So I stand corrected, and I'm agreeing with y'all.
As a man, you should want it to be some fly shit.
I'm not disagreeing. And you should be aware of what your future wife wants.
I'm agreeing with you there, too.
I'm agreeing with you.
I agree with you. I stand'm agreeing with you i agree with
you i stand corrected let me ask you real quick but i stand like she could have this i want it
to be here i want it to be you know i want my family there all these things right you do some
other fly shit so i'm not saying no bullshit i'm still saying some other shit just not what she
wanted it's not about you it's also not where you started. It's not about you.
No, I'm just asking a question based on what y'all are saying.
I'm bouncing back and forth.
It's not about you.
She should be incorporated in your thought.
No, you got to take the back seat.
Yeah.
It's her day.
She's driving.
If you speak to anybody that's actually been married, they'll tell you, yo, we don't.
Just let them drive and do it.
When I tried to intervene, it was a fight.
It was.
Well, you should be able to have some say
in a lot of this shit
you will
you gonna ask for the balance
and you gonna make sure
it's cleaner
yeah
that is your responsibility
I stand corrected
I stand corrected
and you gonna have a blast
doing it
that's true
yeah
we got our muffins cracked
yes and no
cause I still
no cause I still stand
and yo
if the setting
is that important with your lady like if she sees you as the one and she says no because the setting is off, maybe we need to rethink this.
Well, you should, because if you have gotten this far, right, you're proposing and you don't know what she likes.
This is not a good marriage to begin with.
I wouldn't say that either.
No, it is.
You should know what your wife would want to be proposed to
and how she want her wedding to look to some degree.
You got to fight about little shit, of course.
But...
Yo, for me, it's really no wrong way to do it.
Like, when you in love and you have that feeling
that you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody,
I respect the people to be like,
yo,
we just ran the city hall right quick.
Yo,
we,
I like that.
I said,
I love that shit too.
But there's so many different versions of what it could look like.
And also,
I'm not mad at none of them.
Also,
when you say,
yeah,
we decided to go to town hall and get married.
That's still,
we decided to do this.
This is not,
I'm taking you to town hall to get married that's still we decided to do this i'm taking
you to town hall to get married that's how it works right i agree with that and it's crazy i
respect my thing is i think we take um we will unpack it boy no like my nigga the sentimental
piece of somebody willing to spend the rest of their life with you. We dismiss that part.
Yeah, you know what it takes
for a man in 2021
to commit the rest
of his life with somebody?
All right, this is a new batch
you putting in there.
I'm going to go ahead.
And you just saying nah
because the setting is off
when he proposed?
We already agreed.
We over for that.
What are y'all trying
to unpack there?
Fuck out of here.
Y'all want to talk
about your own girl, huh? Come on, let's move on. trying to do? Fuck out of here. Y'all want to talk about your own girl,
huh?
Come on,
let's move on.
Congratulations to
Dirk.
Congratulations.
Round of applause
to Dirk and India.
Dirk and India.
That's hard, man.
That's dope.
That's beautiful.
The kids ran out
all night.
That was dope.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
No, that's super dope.
What else is there?
Is there anything
in the world of music?
No, right?
I mean, there's the Big Sean drink champs interview, which...
Big Sean...
Big Sean did do drink champs.
He did.
He did.
He did.
You saw it?
I watched about half of it.
Uh-oh.
And twice?
Sip the juice.
I don't know.
Don't sip it yet.
But this goes back to the point I made a few weeks ago when I was like,
yo, I don't like when the dude that wouldn't normally say something,
say something only because the guy that always say something said something.
Don't get out of your character.
I disagree with that.
I know you did, and you did then.
So now Big Sean goes on Drink Champs, the same platform that Kanye went on,
to address the same host that Kanye spoke to
and kind of rid some of that stench that Kanye put out there
grabbing the grave and doing all the extra shit.
And Kanye was extra.
Super.
He was extra.
Did she spike for him?
And Big Sean was composed.
He was.
But look what composed gets you.
Ain't nobody talking about this interview.
I didn't get much from it.
Nobody said a word about it.
Because there wasn't much to pull from it.
That's unfortunate.
I thought it was plenty to much from it. Nobody said a word about it. Because there wasn't much to pull from it. That's unfortunate. I thought it was plenty to pull from it.
I thought it was some things to pull from it.
But just interesting that you never get the same.
When you try to do that, when you try to match energy or be so reactive,
you don't always get what you're looking for out of that
and big sean was reserved so he didn't share too much
but he shared enough for me i think he may i don't know him personally i just think he may
be a more classy dude yeah like he ain't really want to come anyway like i'm just coming out
to kind of clear up
Some of the bullshit
Niggas trashing your name
Sometimes being a bigger person
And just like
Especially in the public eye
It damn near does you harm
To just sit back
And be quiet
Somebody can come on TV
And lie about you dog
And you just
Being quiet
They gonna run with the lie
You know what I'm saying
Yeah it could.
Look.
I feel blessed.
Way.
Way.
I feel.
Straight up. Look.
I live the life I deserve
Bless
Fuck a fake hair
I feel better at work
I mean whatever it's worth
I give whatever I'm worth
For my niggas who gon' go to hell and back
For me I'ma give them heaven on earth
For a hell of a check at whichever confers
He was telling a story
And he mentioned his record
He was telling a story
About how he was working on this album,
and it was time to put the album out.
And this was his big budget album, this one here, right?
So Kanye is really involved in this.
So Kanye hears the song Blessings, and he's like,
yo, I need to be on it.
And Sean is like, well, nah, this song is done.
I got Drake on it.
It's already long. It's done. And Kanye's like song is done i got drake on it like it's already long like it's
done and kanye's like nope i need to be on it and sean is like yo we go for our pre-orders up
in the morning and kanye's like well let's do it right now then so he said he had to go and have a
conversation with drake and say hey bro want to be on this and he said drake said well the song is kind of done they don't need that
it's already long we're going back and forth from one of the parts uh sean said drake wrote the hook
like he said the song was complete and he said that that was the moment that things changed
things changed he said Drake handled that like a gentleman
but he could tell that the vibe was
a little off from there
so he's insinuating
it's kind of the inception
of the Drake Kanye
no that beef existed
before this but he was saying
due to Kanye's obsession with Drake when he was playing his album this but he was saying due to kanye's obsession with drake when he was playing
his album even though he was on that album two times already he insisted he needed to be on the
drake record so they tried to get it out but for some reason it didn't go out mastering didn't get
kanye's version so the song went out as is and the remix did come out at some point right the kanye version came out
i was getting ready to tell you because i of course have you have both yeah i have i have
the kanye one too the kanye version came out first i remember that and then when the actual
song came out there was no kanye on it and they snatched that one down really quick like it went
out i don't know if it was officially released or how i remember how it went out but when blessings
first came out it was uh big sean drake and kanye and then after that it was just uh big sean and
drake and i didn't know the story behind what happened i was wondering i don't want to spend
a whole lot of time here because some of this is painfully obvious if you've been following this for years.
But for those of you that may not have been following, Drake later on when he was dissing, who was he dissing?
He was dissing somebody and he said one of my favorite lines.
He was like, ever since I stopped doing features, niggas blessings slowed down.
He said something like that.
And I said, hmm.
He was talking to Kanye.
Kanye and Push when he said all this shit.
Okay.
Right?
I'll go back and find the record.
But he said that.
And I was like, damn, that's interesting to say.
That line always stuck out to me.
Huh.
Because I notice when the Drake stimulus package is missing and what it looks like when it's not.
And after this, we didn't really see too much of
him and kanye either no and the albums started sounding like the budget was less and less
and then we get the conflict between him and yay and good and sean wants to be independent he's old
money and so forth and so on.
But it took him saying it in this interview for it to click to me
that there's nothing wrong with Big Sean right now.
Remember we keep trying to figure out
what's wrong with certain people?
I don't think there's anything wrong with Big Sean.
I think what the public might be having a hard time with
is seeing what it looks like when drake moves
aside and when kanye moves aside it's just him and it's just him interesting that's what it is
now she mentioned it damn let me go look yeah go look he hasn't really had no go look features
there's been no label support there's been not a whole lot of marketing and promotion
there's not been not not a whole lot of celebration really not even a whole lot of marketing and promotion there's not been that not a whole lot
of celebration really not even a whole lot of records that have worked uh mainstream since then
right no and you're talking about somebody who did i don't fuck with you number one for how many
weeks in a row this was a hit maker this was one of them dudes they wouldn't leave him off the posse
cuts huh i never looked at it that way i never looked at it that way either that's really This was one of them dudes. They wouldn't leave him off the posse cuts. Huh.
I never looked at it that way.
I never looked at it that way either.
That's really interesting.
So on a deep dive, what does that say?
The moment that you lose the support of the label, it's a wrap for you?
Well, he had support just from a few different places.
It wasn't just the label.
He had Drake wasn't on his label.
To be able to pick up the phone and secure a Drake feature
and have him write the hook on your single and clear it to have kanye's support to have kanye
being the one mixing mastering listening kanye support means kanye fans drake fans the label
support means everybody's going to hear these records there was a certain time that you didn't
miss big sean it wasn't that some of them went by without you hearing big sean true and big sean and kanye that combination
really missed from marvin and chardonnay to what's the other one i love with fucking uh
chris brown i love all of them them them my last year hands up and oh my god so i'm just saying
we we should be trying to figure it out up here.
But sometimes it's not much to figure out.
Sean is doing the best that he can,
standing on his own for the first time in his entire career.
That's what it is.
And he's had nice features, actually.
He has Nipsey and Post Malone and Eminem
on a couple different records.
So it's not like he's been completely left out.
No, he's with his man, his boy.
Yeah. He's with his man. He'll be be fine but this is just what it looks like now so i want to big him up now that
i had this epiphany because so many of the artists that had major label and mainstream success get
down on themselves when that's not there anymore so listening to sean in this interview he sounded
a little down he sounded disappointed little down. He sounded disappointed.
He sounded hurt.
He sounded overwhelmed with some emotions that he hadn't been able to tell the person that he has these feelings with and for.
Boy, does that hurt.
When you have the most to say to the people you ignore.
That's a lot.
I hope Sean is good, man.
This is somebody who battled mental health problems.
I hope Sean is all right. And knock some battled mental health problems I hope Sean is alright
and knock some shit
out the park
go get your shit off
but do you see sometimes
the need for the interview too
I'm not mad at him
doing the interview
no I'm just saying
but now that he has
done an interview
you said you came to
an epiphany
on what potentially
could have taken place
well only because
he gave it up
yeah that's what I'm saying
sometimes those interviews
be informative
and it'll clear some shit up
sometimes
I know
so you should put your foot forward
and do them
don't hide
behind mystique
you don't want to be messy
you get what I'm saying
yeah
it's tricky
it's a fine line
you never want to be messy
but when you got some shit
to get off
like we've seen it
it's been brewing for a while
yo
they've been trying to keep it under wraps.
They've been hitting that money old
and all types of shit for a while.
Now it's just coming to head.
It's been a little lines and verses and stuff like that.
Yeah, but when the public find out,
this shit been going on.
Did we discuss Ross saying Meek ain't talking to him
because he didn't say his name?
No, we didn't.
Do you want to?
There's not much to discuss.
Yeah, it's not much.
I mean, he said Meek not talking to him.
Too mature a way to look at it.
But Ross didn't say whosever name he was talking to either.
That's why I don't like that.
Well, nobody asked him who he was talking to.
What?
Because ain't it time for me to tell you who I was talking to.
I'm going to tell you what I think he was
talking about
but what he said was
I'm going to be honest
I think he was
talking to Atlanta
you think it's Atlanta
no that's what
Ross said
oh okay
yeah
uh huh
he don't think that
I told you
Ross is the king
at making it look like
it's always all good
and this is his
just his way of
doing that again yes it's all still good with me and me he not talking to me he know
he talking to stupid me because meek posted up a Ross album on Instagram I
was like oh everything must be fine you found as soon as I said that I went home
it was like oh yeah I'm surprised you, of all people, will fall for that. I'm looking for something to be positive about.
Well, I was.
And I'm still being positive.
Still being positive.
What else do we need to get to?
Hmm.
Do y'all want to go Gatekeepers of Hip Hop first?
Yeah, let's do the Gatekeepers of Hip Hop.
Come on, pull it up.
I'm interested in this.
Pull it up.
It's a list.
It's a list.
Another list?
No, not a list.
It's a board.
It's a XXL board.
Oh, that's awesome.
Like managers and such, right?
The big dogs.
They're called the XXL Awards, and they said this is the board that is behind picking who has these awards.
Okay.
Which we just called the gatekeepers list.
That's really all this is.
This is an actual gatekeepers list.
Yeah, this is showing you who's who.
This is letting you know.
There's a few different ways to look at this.
Is there any way I can get the names of all the people that are on this list?
Because it's a few different covers.
Yeah, it's like three different.
And I want to shout out to Vanessa and XXL
for doing this
because boy,
what a refreshing change.
Good to look at a cover
and finally see
some of the execs
behind the scenes
that make this thing
go around that we love.
I like this idea.
I do.
I do too.
It's dope.
I like showing like,
hey, this is them.
You know what I'm saying?
I like that part.
And you hear people's names. Sometimes it's good to put a face to a name. Sure. You know what I mean? Like that's dope. And I like showing like hey this is them you know what I'm saying I like that part and you hear people's names
sometimes it's good
to put a face to a name
sure
you know what I mean
like that's dope
and I like the idea of
cause I guess
the concept of this
is these gentlemen
will be
ladies and gentlemen
will be
voting on whatever
whatever awards
the XXL awards
2022
I'm not mad at that
this is the board behind
and they got a bunch of artists
this is the exec side I don't know if they're gonna board behind. And they got a bunch of artists. This is the exec side.
I don't know if they're going to do another cover,
but there's a bunch of artists as well who make up this board that they
aren't on the covers.
Now, on the flip side, if I have to offer some resistance,
these are the people that run the music industry.
Yeah.
So they all have artists.
Right.
True.
Could be a conflict of interest.
Yeah, my...
But these are also the most knowledgeable people in the world.
No doubt.
When it comes to...
Urban music.
Music.
I can't beef about this because my beef with most of these execs for too many years has been
they have all the knowledge that we need and they'll keep it.
They won't offer it.
They won't get in front of a camera.
They won't do an interview.
Those tides are changing as of late.
So for all these faces to even agree to come together and be seen, I'm going to hit the round of applause.
And I will say, for the most part, this ain't a fluff list.
Like if I'm an up-and-coming artist, boy, it's nice to have faces to the exact people that can impact change and change some lives.
This is the who's who.
Don't get it twisted.
This is it.
Let's go through it.
Cover number one.
Just Blaze, Teresa Sanders, Amina, Clue, Self, Noah, Allen.
I'm not reading whole names.
self noah allen i'm not reading whole names here uh roberta rob ray daniels tt torres giovanni druha bill wilson gabby hey gabby i love you orlando i love you too there's a lot of y'all
i love on here tracy i love you too wendy uh james cruz latrice natina lisa brunson oh i love
you lisa all this is gang up here marcia kaiser little kim Lil' Kim, Sydney, Thea Mitchum.
That's cover number one.
Cover number two,
Who Kid,
Mike Caron,
Laura Stiles,
Big Boy,
Ghazi,
Laura Carter,
Nicole,
I don't know her last name,
Jay Grant,
Eve,
oh, I love you, Eve,
Shaka, of course.
Shaka,
you ain't,
you been running from the space table
for so long, man.
I hate these niggas.
Dana Meyerson
Tim Henshaw
hey Tim is up
everybody's up here yo
holy shit
this is the who's who
Echo
Deola
Steve-O
shout out to Steve-O
Steve-O
Steve-O
or Steve Carlos
I don't know which name
he's like Kobe 8
and Kobe 24
like he's been great
with both of these shits
Lenny S
Dallas
Sean
Gene Nelson
G Robeson, DJ Drama,
Lake, Catherine Frazier, Mark Pitts, Erica, oh, hey, Erica, Kevin Louse,
Kev, Felicia, Sav, Gabby, Gabby Acevedo, Amir, Doc Winter, Mona Scott Young.
How many covers are there, three or four?
Three.
And last, we have KP the Great, Steve Rifkin, Chris Atlas, Fadiya, Caroline,
Zach Iser, Simone Mitchell, Wayne Hampton, Jeff Vaughn, Caroline.
Let me just go through.
Who do I know?
P is on here.
Top is on here.
Ezekiel's on here.
Twin is on here.
Tubby's on here.
Punch is here.
Sylvie is on here.
Ethiopia is on here. Coach K. Love you, Ethiopia. Coach K is here Sylvia's on here Ethiopia's on here
Coach K
Love you Ethiopia
Coach K is here also
Yo
If you're an act out there
Go get all of these
Twitter names
And Instagram names
And go crazy
For the next five years
Yeah
Anybody responsible
With cutting a check
Or cutting multiple checks
Or green lighting something
Or having access to a budget
or being next to the person
that's the person.
They all on here
for the most part.
Yeah, I would like to have seen
a couple more
underground kind of people
that represent that lane
a little bit more,
but I understand.
Shut up.
This is XXL.
What are you talking about?
Shut up.
You're not going to see that.
Enough of this underground crap.
You're not going to see that, bro.
Ice to get parked. This is the mainstream. He not going to see that, bro. Ice, get parked.
This is the mainstream.
He's leading the underground charge, yo.
This is the mainstream.
You and Preem.
You and Preem and showbiz.
Okay.
Chill the fuck out, Parks.
Yeah, this is the mainstream.
You're not going to see none of them on here.
Preem.
Someone.
Someone to represent that lane.
Sorry.
You know where they at? They on the underground. West High. Yeah. I wouldn't be mad at that lane. Sorry. You know where they at?
They on the underground.
West High.
Yeah.
I wouldn't be mad at West High.
Yeah.
Someone.
But this is executive town.
I thought Paul Rosenberg was on one of these.
He's on the list.
He's on the board, but he might not be on the cover.
Yeah, they didn't.
Yeah, good.
There's a whole, like I said, there's a bunch of people that's not.
Hey, I'll keep some petty.
What?
Get that nigga off the cover.
Go ahead.
Come on, man.
Yo.
I'm letting you cook, man.
I'm not cooking.
I just said something.
Oh, you done?
Yeah, we done.
We done.
We done.
But yeah, I like this.
In part, you know, you're not going to see any of them just so we know, so we're clear.
It should be.
No, it shouldn't.
Yeah, it shouldn't.
You got a point. It should be no it shouldn't yeah it should you got a point it should be what
what
that it should be
some of them
some of the underground
on XXL's
super mainstream
these are all
yeah they don't care
commercial people
that you can think of
they don't care
he's saying that
they should have representation
with XXL
and that XXL should care about them
that's all
what you're saying is correct
they don't care
but maybe one day that'll change.
It's not going to change.
That's why the underground is the underground
and the mainstream is the mainstream. But the underground
moves culture. It definitely does.
It's financially viable, so
there should be some representation. Not just that, it's been pivotal.
Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Hold on.
The underground is financially viable
to the underground. It ain't viable to them.
That's why they're not going to put it up here.
I understand.
I'm just saying.
They can't make no money off you independent underground cats.
Ghazi's up there.
He is.
That's dope.
That is very dope.
Drew Haas up there.
I mean, I guess if they were to have somebody up there
to represent it, it would be Ghazi, right?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, but I get what you're saying
it's just mainstream
them doing this list lets me know
that they have the ability to do a
who's to blame list
you looking at it
no but we need
that list
cause I don't know I know what all these
people's amazing or most of these people's
accomplishments have been and who they have broken who they have helped all these people's amazing or most of these people's accomplishments have been. And who they have broken, who they have helped, whose lives they have changed.
And most of these people span back to when I came in.
They did, Joe.
That's how I met most of them.
They did it.
They did what?
Who's the blameless?
This?
Yeah.
No.
Who's not on the list?
Oh.
That's a good way to look at that.
But they don't know because these people remain in anonymity.
No, Leo's on there.
Where?
Not on the cover.
He's not on there.
I'm trying to look at the list.
That's what I'm scrolling through now.
Ice just had it.
If Kev is on there, Leo's on there.
Same shit.
I'm just saying.
If Kev is on there and Julie is on there and Kaiser,
if all my sons is on here, then I'm here.
You can't put all my sons somewhere and I not be here.
Yeah.
They really got
everybody.
I want to see a who's to blame list of all
the people that made horrendous mistakes
and decisions throughout the year.
Who's responsible for some of these horrible acts?
There's a few of y'all up here that have signed some real
bullshit. I ain't going to hold you.
We're going to keep this at love, but there's a few of y'all up here that have signed some real bullshit. I ain't going to hold you. We're going to keep this at love.
But there's a few of y'all up here that I just don't know about, dog.
Y'all, I know the bullshit y'all have signed and put out in the universe.
And pumped.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's key.
Y'all made that bullshit pop.
Look at Gob.
See, some of these names, see, some of these names you just can't move off here.
Gobby, who I was selling my fucking laptops to over at Loud Records, he's still here killing.
To see Sav and Steve-O and Lisa Brunson, I just followed Lisa the other day on Instagram.
Now, Ice, you had some names on here that you thought shouldn't be here.
And Lisa Brunson also makes amazing candles. Hopefully she still does that.
You had some people that you thought shouldn't have been on here, right?
Yeah, but it was explained to me that they should, though.
Because I was wondering, I said, why is Lil' Kim on this list?
Not as a slight to her.
I just didn't understand if this is a mover and shaker's list today,
why is Lil' Kim on here?
And Ish off- camera explained to me.
You want to tell them what you said?
No, I just said that
take away Lil' Kim,
you take away a bunch of female rappers.
Like there's no Cardi,
there's no Meg,
there's no nobody without Kim.
To be totally honest with you.
Subject,
because you had Light,
you had Latifah and all of them before them,
but they weren't necessarily embracing the shit that Lil' Kim embraced.
So now you have the Megs, the Cardys, and all of them, the subject matter,
and all that shit has now changed as a result, a direct result of Kim.
You disagree?
No, no, no.
That's why I said I don't even have that issue anymore.
He made it make sense, and he's 100% correct.
And this list doesn't say, hey, these are the movers and shakers.
This says these are the people that we're trusting to vote.
Yeah.
This is our board.
And in that, you want Lil' Kim's opinion.
Yeah.
Some of the other artists they have, because they don't show most of the artists.
They got 2 Chainz, 50 Cent, Gucci,
Bun B is on here,
E-40 is on here.
So,
Jeezy,
Yo Gotti.
Like,
there's a bunch of hip-hop acts
that are active
and know
what's what.
I'm interested to see
these awards.
And it represents
different regions.
Enough about all that.
Come on,
let's add some fighting
to this bullshit.
You should have been
on the list.
If you're...
Well,
I wasn't going there,
but thank you.
You said you wouldn't go?
No,
I said I wasn't going there.
Oh,
no,
I ain't even trying to be funny.
I looked at the list
and I looked at the personalities.
In my opinion,
you're my man.
I'm not even saying that
because you're my man,
but you should have been
on the list.
It's music up here
that gets broken
by you.
It's shit up here that I ain't know about, but I'm not this hugest music guy.
But even in looking at the Twitter pages, the Instagram comments, all that shit, a lot of the music that you bring to the pot, niggas be like, yo, I never heard it.
Like, yo, good looking.
I've been listening to that shit for three weeks, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I think you should be on the list.
Well, I appreciate that.
Thank you. I'm glad you said on the list. Well, I appreciate that. Thank you.
I'm glad you said it because I can't say that.
Maybe I'll have to work harder.
Shut up, yo.
What?
Who works harder?
Or, you know what?
The blessing for me is to be able to pick up the phone
and call most of these people.
That's where it begins and ends for me.
Like, cool, I'm not on there,
but these are people that ain't answering the phone.
And I'm blessed enough to not only kick it
with some of these people,
but to have came up with some of these people.
So I feel kind of like Lior.
Yeah, nigga, I'm part of a lot of these stories in here.
And I think me and Vanessa had like a little rift
at some point recently.
Vanessa runs Devil XL.
I wonder if Vanessa has a B for me. Let's call Vanessa.
That's how you get to the bottom of it.
Look how organic this shit comes down.
That is how you get to the bottom of some shit, though.
Hey, look. I got a got mad Vanessa's in my phone.
I bet you.
I bet you.
Wait.
Yo, what's wrong with you?
It's a very common name.
Oh, dog.
Let's see if any of these numbers work.
All right, well.
All right.
Well, it ain't that one, right?
Let's try this one.
Oh, so you one of those who don't delete the whole number?
I do, but I mean, sometimes I don't.
Let me just see what's going on.
Hello?
Hello, this is Joe Budden from the Joe Budden Podcast calling.
May I speak with Vanessa, please?
This is her.
Hello, Vanessa, how are how are you good how you doing
i couldn't be better happy holidays to you and your family thank you same to you i appreciate
the kind words why i'm calling you is because i'm sitting here highlighting this this x double xl
board i think this is phenomenal i think that y'all have done an amazing job of picking all
the right people to go on this shit and i can't wait to see what's to come from it.
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
That means a lot.
Does this mean y'all are not doing the freshman list or is this something totally different?
No, it's nothing to do with the freshmen.
We had a wild time putting this together.
We tried to figure out at the end of the day, you know, to do something a little different.
Everybody had said you should do an XXL Awards over the years.
And I just thought that all you're doing is setting yourself up for everyone is saying who the fuck
picked these and then everybody's doing their lists for the industry and all of that and i
thought we could have a creative list that we could do you know they all do who's the industry
the top power 30 and this thought like there's everybody complains about you know award shows
and not noting who the board members are or who the voters are and i thought why don't you take the people who
make the industry tick and give them the opportunity to pick the winners so
we started it and half the time i've been saying what the fuck are you doing what the fuck are you
doing because it's been a lot of work how you're gonna get so far it's been well received so i feel
good about that you know well vanessa it there's no way for it to not be well received
because these are the people that run the industry like even even if we want to talk
bad about it we can't because they'll blackball us say that one more time i'm sorry i said you
can't i said of course it's well received you can't say anything bad about this because these
are all the people saying all sorts of shit everybody loves to talk shit you know how do
you stop they just don't say it to me they know do you stop... They just don't say it to me.
They know it gets to me,
but they don't say it to me directly so much.
How do you get these people
to not vote for their artists only?
Well, they can vote for their artists only if they want.
The one thing I think is interesting is...
Oh, excuse me.
The one thing I think is interesting is...
Hello?
I'm sorry.
It's the dog in the elevator and everything all at once.
It's fine.
You got a lot going on
What's it called? I just think that you know, not everybody is always gonna sit there and vote for the artist
They're artists because they work for them publicly, but sometimes that doesn't mean privately
They don't like things and also there's a hundred and six to hundred fifty eight people on the board
You know, you got to have a majority to win if you have six people from one outlet voting
That's still not gonna trump how many votes would need for somebody to win.
So I think it could be even enough.
And I think people at the end of the day aren't just going to vote for their staff, depending on, you know, I mean, they're artists, depending on how dependent they are.
But I think with 158 people, you could get to a place where there could be a majority and it won't be just, you know, it's not 158 Atlantic staff members, you know.
majority and it won't be just you know it's not 158 atlantic staff members you know how reluctant were some of these people to be a part of this uh knowing that executives are typically behind
the scenes and their faces are in the shadows i think everybody was i think everybody was part
of it was excited to be a part of it because um they thought it was a cool idea and if they didn't
you know there were people who said no and there were artists who said no and if they did i made
it clear it's all love.
If you don't want to be a part of it, regardless, we will not cover you or not cover your artists or not support you.
Nobody asked me if I wanted to be.
Hello?
Yeah, I did not.
Honestly, I didn't ask you.
I didn't know how much of a relationship we had.
Nobody called me.
Nobody texted me.
I made most of the calls, so it would have been me.
Vanessa, do you think that this list should have gone out without good old pal Joe?
I didn't know he was my old pal.
Here's my final question for you.
I'm going to present the same question to my co-host.
If you're an artist, which one of these covers would you pick to first and best propel your career?
Oh, I wouldn't. I didn't even look at it that way. I don't know. I mean, there is no particular cover that's supposed to be anything stronger than the next.
It's how we kind of were able to be able to shot people, shoot people and group them up.
But not really anything in particular that that there's a reason why anybody is together or not.
I mean, it's all about whoever you respect
and whoever you do your research on and you appreciate and all of that.
But I think everybody on there is important for their own individual reasons.
And I wouldn't take one being more important than another.
I mean, if you look, some skew a little bit more New York-based
because the shoots that happen in New York.
Some skew a little bit more L.A.-based because of the shoots that happen in L.A.
But I don't necessarily think either of them at the end of the day or any of them at the end of
the day are stronger one versus the other. I think they're all pretty cool. You're good.
You're good at this. Listen, you're good. I don't expect to trip you up, especially publicly.
Vanessa, I love you. Love love your dogs and thank you for this
amazing cover one two three all of it round of applause thank you i appreciate that all right
enjoy your holiday all right unfortunately we can't do a pod without saying rest in peace to someone.
It feels like for the last two months.
Every week.
And now we're saying rest in peace, Draco the Ruler, dead after backstage stabbing at L.A. concert.
I'm reading this from Variety.
And it says rapper Draco the Ruler died after being stabbed backstage at the Once Upon a Time in L.A. multi-artist concert at the Bank of California Stadium.
A rep for the performer has confirmed to Variety.
Superstar Drake, who appeared on Draco the Ruler's single earlier this year, was among those posting condolences on social media.
They didn't really release too much information about what happened.
We know this was at a festival.
There were a lot of people on the bill, and this was the first story to break.
So I think they did cancel the rest of the show.
I believe they did.
They ended it.
Everybody had to go home from there.
This just continues the horrific trend of people losing their lives when they go
out to have a blast
at a festival or go perform at a festival.
I want to say rest in peace to Drake,
Yoda ruler.
Um,
I wasn't too familiar with him musically.
Um,
but who cares?
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
It don't matter.
It's another one of our peers going to do what he does to feed his family
gone from,
from what I, I wasn't too familiar with his music, even though I do listen to a lot of West Coast rap.
And from what I understood from the people that I talked to, he was next up.
Like, he was that dude.
That's what people were telling me as well.
Yeah, like, the streets fucked with him.
Like, he was that dude.
He was in position to become, like, almost the face of rap out there.
Future face.
Unfortunate regardless
this is a month after his birthday
and this is on his girl's birthday.
That part.
See like when these
entertainers die now right
because for me it's all about the kids
it's all about the kids he had kids yeah right look that up for me it's all about the kids right
so for me when i'm home with my son right it'd be just us two and he's four now sometimes i want to
run down to the kitchen and make a move with a doorbell around, order some food.
I want to run to the doorbell.
I want to make a quick run to the bathroom or something.
And this kid has to follow me.
He won't let me get away.
And when I try to get away, he'll say, daddy, daddy, or cry, or scream, or do all that stuff.
And as a dad, you're just forced to get into, damn, man, you got to come home at night for this i just got into it
earlier yo i'm in a hotel for christmas i just want to be with my baby my baby is screaming my
name calling me i just want to get back home this is uncomfortable that's the zone i go in
when these murders occur i don't really think about the deceased i think about who's left here
to mourn and suffer.
And I think about how it has to be explained to the children that it's over now.
Because a lot of times the kids be too young for the parents to have explained what death is yet.
Kids just waiting on dad to come home.
And in December, yo, nobody's prepping for this.
You prepping for cheers and a joyous occasion with your family, dinner.
Who's cooking?
Who house we at?
What you want?
Let me shower the people I fuck with with love.
You're not prepping for funeral arrangements.
His son's birthday is on January 5th.
You know what I mean?
Like, you get Christmas, then bam, bam.
January 5th, right around the corner.
See, nah, nah.
That's crazy to me.
And I know such is life.
But just when it's a constant thing
in the circles that we roam,
I feel bad roam I feel
bad I feel bad for his fans
family friends loved ones
before this LA
was turned up
he was coming in here saying it's the purge the cop says
stay away
crime rate is back up
now
yeah I don't know what to say man
my heart is with my heart is with Los Angeles right now.
It is.
Outstanding.
Please.
My bad.
My bad.
I want to say rest in peace to my guy Sauce from the town, too.
Lost his life this weekend.
Rest in peace weekend rest in peace
rest in peace
not December man
it's like this
and I already have
it cemented in my head
that New Year's Eve
means death
cause New Year's Eve means death. Because New Year's Eve comes and then...
Whatever.
And then they just keep losing prominent people from the town, right?
Like, they just lost Slim 400.
Still probably feeling Nipsey's death out there.
I'm sure that's heavy.
Along with all the people that we maybe don't know about.
L.A., hold your head.
Much love to y'all out there.
Rest in peace, Greco the Ruler.
I might keep my ass in the house.
Until the first.
I ain't gonna hold you.
I canceled my little vacation plan.
It was tough enough to go on vacation, but yeah, I'm off all that.
I might be my friend
right now.
It's looking like
we're heading that way anyway.
Yeah.
What's that in the house?
They're locked in the house.
Oh, with the Mario?
Yeah.
Yeah, no,
a lot of people don't know.
It's, yeah. A lot of that. It's bad, man. It, with the Mario? Yeah. You know, a lot of people don't know. People don't know.
It's, yeah.
A lot of that.
That shit ain't playing. It's bad, man.
It's bad.
I'm hearing so many schools with, like, they're shutting certain schools down.
And the problem that a lot of places are having is the lack of communication.
Like, you'll get a small outbreak, and they won't say a word.
And then it won't seem out of hand.
I'm guessing somebody in the school should say something.
Don't try my tactics right now, please.
No, I'm just asking.
Oh, no, no.
But that's what's happening.
That's why it's getting so bad.
Back on the phone to see if I have someone's correct phone number.
I'd just be calling. I'd choose the pod
to just call people I haven't spoken to.
Answer the phone, bitch.
I need to FaceTime. You can't
let go that long. I'll try
a regular call. Let me just see
what's going on.
Saturday, I spent my Saturday
in the house watching battles. Watching battle rap. I tried to. I couldn't get logged on. Saturday, I spent my Saturday in the house watching battles,
watching battle rap.
I tried to.
I couldn't get logged on.
Why?
No.
Forgot password
and every time
I hit the little link,
it wouldn't shoot it to me.
Yeah,
they're very slow with that.
Super, bro.
Because sometimes
when I log in,
it'll say we sent the code
because I used two-factor
for everything.
Fucking code don't come
for five,
ten minutes later.
That's crazy.
So I gave up.
You missed it. I heard. You missed it a bit. I'm going to watch it on the for five, ten minutes later. It's crazy. So I gave up. You missed.
I heard.
You missed it a bit.
I'm gonna watch it
on the URL shit though.
Okay.
Yo.
Round of applause
for Caffeine and Smack
yet again.
Round of applause
for Caffeine and Smack
yet again.
They ain't missed in a while. They ain't missed in a while.
They ain't missed in a while.
Look what you can do with a little bit of teamwork.
So volume nine was on Saturday.
It started at 6 p.m.
I was mad.
And I tuned in.
And this was an incredible, incredible card.
And the theme of the card seemed to be the OG vets and the best of the best of the new generation.
The new killers.
Okay.
And it seemed like they were just how they matched the people up.
We have K-Shine versus Easy to Block Captain.
Easily battle with a knight for me.
Yeah, same.
Easy to Block Captain is a new guy that's tearing everybody up that everybody loves.
Charlie Clips versus B-Dot.
I haven't seen Clips in a while, so that was great.
And B-Dot is a West Coast killer he's not to be played with.
Suge versus Real Name Brandon.
This was a cool matchup as well.
Who else did we have?
Vixen the assassin versus kcj
probably my second or third favorite battle that night vixen the assassin went crazy
that was my first time hearing that young lady well both of them kind of killed i just gave it
to vixen the assassin who i don't know if she's white or spanish or what she is but she she was
tearing ass she was tearing ass up up there uh dna versus
the real sick the real sick new jersey's finest my guy my guy he caught a l this time he caught
a l that damn dna and damn dna always beats the guy that he i feel he's not he always beats the
guy that is lyrically a lot better than him, he shows up when it comes to just time to perform,
theatrics, freestyle, rebuttals.
And I can tell DNA's respect for Sick was real high
because of how he performed and how long he went on the rap.
He didn't come to play with Sick.
No, he knew he had to come correct.
I wish Sick would have spoke to me before he was writing his rounds.
You would have told him?
I would have told him who was up to bat for him.
This ain't them other dudes.
DNA is to be.
He wins every time I have him about to lose.
He's a legend.
He's a GOAT.
He's been here a while.
Got to tip your hat to DNA.
Battle of the Night, New Jersey twerk versus Sue Surf.
The main event.
The main event.
Battle of the Night.
Oh, yeah, true.
Jersey's finest new jersey versus newer jersey i was invested in this because twerk is that dude
and surf is on a rampage also when surf first came home i was in the middle of instigating this
when surf first came home i was like yo it's a New Jersey nigga running around, running his mouth.
He kind of, all right.
And then they had a little exchange and some words and some tension and shit.
But clearly they put that behind them.
I watched the little 24-7, the lead up battle thing.
Surf was sunning them out.
Twerk had all the respect in the world for surf.
It's how it should have looked.
But then came battle time and the constant theme throughout the night was all of the new niggas probably being
lyrically better than all the old niggas that could be argued but there's something to be said
about being a vet the wily vet yes get the win by any means necessary it don't matter what
happens i've been in any situation with any crowd i've been in front of mad opponents i've battled
the best of the best of them i've heard every reaction i did it hecklers yep uh small room
big room barbershop top of the roof wherever you want to lay it out i did this i've been here so
what's you and your little few years about
to teach me? These new niggas got up there lyrical
and miracling.
Lyrican and miracling.
And it meant nothing.
It's not always the answer.
You can't tell me the real sick didn't
lyrical miracle DNA
as he tore his ass up lyrically.
Meant nothing.
DNA wasn't phased one bit.
Poised.
Shit.
Poised.
Speaking of lyrical versus
actually being a vet,
look at the B-Dot
in Charlie Clips' battle.
Hmm.
B-Dot chokes in...
Round two.
Yeah.
So Charlie Clips chokes...
In round two.
In round two.
What a beautiful classic choke
by both of y'all
you don't really
you rarely see that
but
where Charlie Clips chokes
he then freestyles
the entire round
tells you I'm freestyling
the entire round
addresses somebody
talking in your corner
on the stage
like he made a moment
out of it
like he damn near
stole the battle
off that.
And it wasn't even the best freestyle.
But the fact that he did it,
he went through the round,
you choked,
but watch how I handled the choke.
It was a recovery.
The recovery is admirable.
It was a thing of beauty.
Let me show you how a vet,
these are vet moves.
They could have called this card vet moves.
Because that's what this was.
Now, I'm a vet too, Charlie Clips and DNA.
I'm a vet myself.
So before y'all graced the stage, I was home.
I went downstairs to get popcorn.
I got some of that microwavable popcorn.
The one that you pop it in.
That shit tastes good.
Pour a little butter on that bitch.
Y'all know the one.
I went and popped some in. the one that you popping in, that shit tastes good, pour a little butter on that bitch. Y'all know the one.
I went and popped some in,
not because an amazing card was going on,
but because my veteran ass knew that these niggas was going to talk about
that little voting vid that happened.
That little DNA Charlie Clips rock the vote
thingamajiggy they did.
I couldn't wait.
That was all I was waiting for.
I forgot about that.
I didn't.
On the basketball court?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the basketball court.
You know the one.
And DNA went up there.
And then round two came.
Real sick set.
He twice ass up.
And when I thought that you couldn't tear somebody up about that no more,
right after Clips finished freestyling,
B-Dot's third round begun.
I almost want to pause this podcast so y'all could hear it.
But the whole round was about that.
It was so fly,
Clips rebuttaled it.
And he shouldn't have.
He sounded like a complete idiot, rebuttaled it And he shouldn't have He sounded like a complete idiot
Rebutting that round
Because he came out with
What the rebuttal was
You saying that I'm shucking and jiving
For white men
But I did the commercial for Smack
I almost dropped to the floor
In my bedroom
Nigga did you just say that?
Did you miss the whole point of this nigga's verse?
Yo, pause this, yo.
Y'all got to hear the verse.
Y'all got to hear the verse.
Just the one verse.
Is it out somewhere where we can see it?
We're going to find it.
All right.
All right.
And we are back.
That was a round.
I just had to play round three.
Yo, I'm not going to hold you.
I'll beat out. You know I ain't the biggest battle rap guy.
That might be the best round I ever heard in my life.
Yo, B-Dot wasn't playing with him, but he lost.
How?
Because when you choke in battle rap, they don't care.
And Clips made that choke into something monumental.
So the fans voted him to win.
But Clips better be lucky.
He forgot that second round.
Yo, son. Hey, Clips, you was in
for a long day, though.
That was a hell of a verse.
But all the old niggas won off
some shit like that. I was just gonna say, that goes to show
that it ain't just your round.
It's the vet moves.
You gotta be able to do the little intangibles
and still pull the win out.
Hey, my nigga, if he did something
to outdo what I just heard,
I want to hear that too.
It worked.
I will try to send y'all
whatever I have
so you can try to find
these battles,
but
yo, when they do these events
on a Saturday,
that be my Saturday
up until it's time
to run the streets.
And that's how I ended up
at Bumass 35
because these battles went off
and I was hype.
I was ready to rock.
We in the streets
I can't go to bed now
these niggas done
shot you every type of way
nah I tried
I downloaded caffeine
and all that
but I couldn't get the shit
I couldn't get the login
me either man
sheesh
I tried to call surf
because
this should just be the surf
this was the surf show
this thing
this thing here
he showed up
no no
he's been showing out though
you gotta think people been saying a lot of shit about surf he heard y'all this is now three battles Yo, this thing. This thing here. He showed up. No, no. He's been showing out, though. You got to think.
People have been saying a lot of shit about Serf.
He heard y'all.
This is now three battles that he hasn't lost a round in.
He's 9-0.
He's 9-0.
In less than 90 days.
That's impressive.
That part.
That's impressive.
No jokes.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
No jerseys.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
As he's the lead commentator.
Yeah.
That part. Oh, he was doing both? Not yesterday.'s the lead commentator. Yeah. That part.
Oh, he was doing both?
Not yesterday.
On the cards that he's on.
No, but on every card.
It's him and Nunu, and they're commentating.
You know how tough, yo?
People don't really talk about how tough that is,
because y'all don't know shit about shit.
But to be a rapper and commentate about rappers
and then have to go rap.
He killed this.
Yes, he did.
They said he was finished.
They said he was cooked.
He choked a lot of rounds.
I got it.
But he is now
beat.
It wasn't three slouches.
No.
Sir, man.
He was supposed to come up here
after that last win
but of course
he's not punctual
and
and
sticking to
that
moves again
it seemed like
and Twerk has been
on the big stages before
he's been on the
the main event
of the card before
it just seemed like
this battle
was a little too much for him
he might have got
five lines in in the first round and choked.
Yeah, I might come with a hot take, man.
Surf might be the GOAT.
Surf might be the GOAT, yo.
If he ain't the GOAT, he magic.
If I really look at this in totality from what the battle rap people enjoy,
he's got the resume, He's got the wins.
He's got the views.
And all of that shit y'all get up there and lie about, he do it.
That's kind of big for me.
Y'all niggas just get up there lying.
Surface 5'7", in twerk face, talking to that man.
And what you going to do gonna do nothing because it's
real energy yo i've been in jersey you know what i've been doing in jersey i don't have to tell
you nigga you know so what you telling me what you telling me right now it might be to go
and that's why he can get up there and battle Lux. He top five.
He's definitely top five.
And he makes better real music than all of them.
He does make good music.
He makes great music.
That's not the GOAT.
That's the GOAT.
You're right on the arse to me, but you know.
Rightfully so for you.
And I don't even care if you say that, because that's still Jersey.
But to say that's a hard one to beat if my music is better
I'll battle you
and
I'll shoot you
and you can shoot me
and I'll live
you're the GOAT
you're the GOAT
yo
you're the GOAT
I'll shoot you
and you can shoot me
and I'll live
Twerk got into something
in one of them rounds
I think
oh no
I might be confusing
Twerk with
Vixen the Assassin.
Damn.
Talking about, no, they both went off.
Twerk is another one.
He choked as soon as his first round started.
So he didn't get five lines in without choking.
Seriously.
And he choked a few times.
But had he not choked, we get a much more classic battle.
See, it's to everybody's detriment when somebody chokes. Right. It destroys the battle. It destroys classic battle. See, it's to nobody's, it's to everybody's detriment when somebody chokes.
Right.
It destroys the battle.
It destroys the battle.
Yo, the dudes you battling
don't want you to choke.
Damn, dog,
you ruining my,
you know what?
We supposed to be doing.
Yo, that's the other thing,
again,
attributing to the vets.
I watched when the younger ones
begin to choke,
like even twerk,
and you'll see the vet on the other side, like, come on, come on, come on, come on.
Like, come on, come on, you got it?
Come on, like, I'm egging you on.
Come on, come on, take your time.
You got it.
It's not just that.
I don't want to hear the reason that I won because the next nigga choked.
Yeah.
I won because I boop-bopped your ass.
I ain't win because you didn't come to play.
And Surf had a string of battles where he was choke man.
Yeah. So to come back and accomplish this feat in 90 days or less.
Fam, I saw people saying, like, when the card first went up,
it was who's going to win, Surf or Twerk.
It was, all right, whoever.
Have rounds.
Yeah, whoever can get through their rounds.
They called it the Choke Bowl.
Who's going to Jersey first?
Because that's what they'll do.
They'll forget the line like, Jersey.
I used to hate that.
I'll be honest.
And the real sick hated it too.
I'm glad he changed that.
He had some pride.
I think he did a little.
Yo, his verses was ill, man.
But DNA showed out that night.
He showed up.
He showed up that night.
He showed up like he was battling the new nigga that's killing everybody.
And for me, that's still a win for Sick.
Yeah.
If you're going to lose the DNA, I mean, and it's a good DNA.
Him at his best.
Yeah.
Like him at his best.
And me not at my best.
Like if Sick can leave from this and learn a new trick.
Right.
This is like when the athletes play the game and the niggas score 50 on them
and it don't feel good.
Now you want to go work on his defense a little bit.
You got to add to your game.
Sick is early in his career.
All this is a learning lesson stepping stone.
I'll tell you one thing.
This is my most highly anticipated rematch.
We'll see a rematch of this.
Which one?
You think so?
Of this.
You think they'll rematch again?
Facto. What do kids say? Of this. You think they'll rematch again? Facto.
What do kids say?
Big facts.
Big facts.
Yeah, we're going to get this.
This is Clips versus T-Rock part two.
Clips first battled T-Rock.
Clips tore his ass up.
T-Rock wasn't who he was supposed to be yet.
By the time Clips came back from round two,
T-Rock was on a rampage tearing everybody up
and was impossible to beat,
and he learned Clips something.
I got that happening here.
Battle rap people hate when I talk battle rap.
Sorry.
I'm done.
I can't wait to watch it.
And again, shouts to Smack and that whole team over there, man.
Y'all have been putting out nothing but greatness.
Like, I appreciate the hell out of it.
That whole caffeine thing, I ain't
got to pay for it no more. I love it.
Yeah, now that caffeine
shit is great. That's clutch.
Once I remember my password, I think I'll like it again.
It's a nice little Saturday,
man. I got to get up on the TV, turn
the sound up. You good.
They just got to hook up their little password recovery
two-factor
identification recovery system a little quicker.
I would enjoy the battles even more
if I knew the battle rap T.
The battle rappers be dropping lines
about the T, and I don't be knowing it.
They be killing me.
You fucking know this battle rap bitch is a bitch.
I be like, wait, who he fucking?
You got to follow DNA Tooth.
He be filling niggas in on all that shit, man, wait, wait. Yo, you gotta follow DNA Tooth. He be filling niggas
in on all that shit, man.
I follow him.
I get all my,
I be knowing what's going on
because he.
Twitter.
Instagram.
DNA Tooth?
Mm-hmm.
That's what you want me
to follow?
Yep.
It's a character.
Nobody know who the fuck it is.
I see why I won't
become a billionaire.
Yeah, see, look.
That's why.
Look at what my friends tell me. Because you won't follow DNA Tooth. Well, you said you want to know. That's why. Look at what my friends
tell me.
Because you don't follow
DNA too.
Well, you said you want
to know the battle rap team.
They're telling me
to follow DNA too.
You said you want to know
the battle rap team.
And niggas is following
this nigga.
It's a two-footer
fitted hat on
and some gems.
All right.
All right.
All right.
Yo.
Oh, man.
What else is important?
I covered my whole list, man. What y'all got? Oh, man. What else is important? I covered my whole list, man.
What y'all got?
Oh, man.
What do I have?
No, I'm done, man.
I don't have shit.
No, that's not true.
Let me see.
Shout to Puff.
Puff brought Sean John back.
Round of applause.
Black excellence.
Clack it up.
Had to throw extra $3 million on that $4 million bid that he put in, but that's fine.
You'll pay that.
It's all good.
Ain't nothing.
And I I for one
am real happy about that
I was confused
on why the Sean John
Velours became
out of style for a minute
that's the thing
them shits had
man them shits is classic
damn no
Sean John period
but them Velours
but them Sean John Velours
that might have been
one of the best Velours
that there is
them shits was amazing
yeah come back
I ain't gonna hold you
yeah nah
they need to come back
to the game
let's go, Paul.
Damn.
Nah, what's going on?
Oh, Jake Paul.
Jake Paul.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We're going from black excellence to embarrassment.
It's like, nah, I'm playing.
I'm playing.
I don't think that's black embarrassment, man.
It wasn't.
He came out.
He tried to fight.
It happened to anybody.
He got dropped in the round six of eight. It was the sixth round. He came out. He tried to fight. It happened to anybody. He got dropped in the round six of eight.
It was the sixth round.
He fought.
A nigga to right punch can knock anybody out.
Oh, I'm not mad that he fell.
No, he didn't fall.
I'm not mad that he got knocked out.
He got knocked out.
He said he made a mistake.
I dropped the, you know, that can happen.
He had his left dropped a lot.
He didn't get knocked out.
Nah, he was getting that rib cage toe up the whole fight.
And then it looked like another one was coming while I need some icy hot on my shit.
So I'm going to do like this.
Like anybody that's not a boxer would do.
And now I'm going to line you up at the top.
And he fell and he was coherent still later.
But some people had him up in the fight when, at the time this occurred.
Also, listen, I'm on the Jake Paul bandwagon now, dog.
The guy can fight.
See, like, read this caption.
No, I was just about to say that.
Give him his part.
The guy can fight.
Willie's caption.
Caught slipping.
It only takes one shot.
One mistake.
Beautifully timed.
Had he dropped his hand, I would be celebrating.
That's just it.
No hate, love.
I was ready.
I was in shape and blessed to trust God and believe.
Heartbroken, but not broken.
Class act by this guy.
Yeah.
I wasn't familiar with him prior to this fight, but class act.
I'm not mad at that.
No, no, no.
I'm not mad at none of it.
Yeah.
And back to Jake Paul.
You think it's time for him to fight a real boxer, though?
Yes.
Yeah.
Enough prelim.
But see,
this is the problem with that.
They making too much money off him fighting people that can't box.
True.
So what's the real incentive to put him in there with somebody that might put him down?
That might fuck up too many people's money.
So,
they ain't in a rush for him to do that.
We'll get a Woodley Park match three or four,
whatever.
Yeah.
Well,
Le'Veon Bell
want to fight him now.
He'll put him down.
I'm not saying,
I'm saying he'll take that fight.
He'll take the fight.
He told him to stop
fighting small guys
who can't box.
I want to see him
fight the game.
Game can box?
No.
He can fight.
I want to see him
fight the game.
Fight somebody
who your body weight is not wearing on you the whole fight
with the same reach, arm length.
Right.
Like, put him down.
And then maybe find a boxer.
And you got to do people with notoriety, right?
Yeah, that's how you do it.
People that somebody knows.
That's how you do it.
You got to be able to sell it.
So I follow like a boxing
page.
Aficionado.
And they were saying basically
this fucks up the sport because
they can brand these fights.
They can market these fights.
Right.
So all the people that's
bitching about yo he ain't
fighting no real boxers.
Y'all don't watch real boxers
anyway.
But y'all are tuning into this
shit and pay pay per view.
So you can't be mad at these niggas
getting $5 million
for fighting another celebrity.
Same shit with hip-hop.
Yeah, I'm not angry.
I can't be mad at it.
I watch both.
Yeah.
You know how many years
niggas have told me,
oh, boxing is dead.
Boxing is dead.
All right, they found a way
to usher it into the new generation
and make it watchable.
Let's put some people
that might not be boxers.
That's true. But if you're
a boxing purist, quote unquote,
it's always the purist. Gotta get with the times.
Listen, I was a rap purist. I was mad at all
the guys being let in, but this is the evolution.
Tank just told us last week. Same with R&B.
Everybody has to go through this.
It's always just the purist. Every field is what I'm saying.
It's always the purist, though. The purist
think, like, the way I like it has to stay this way.
I'm happy for these two dudes.
They both clearly trained real hard.
And back to Jake Paul, yo.
You could tell that the guy is actually putting some work in.
Yeah, in the gym.
A lot of people are saying that this fight might be rigged.
I'm impressed even if it was rigged.
That was a difficult thing to pull off, rigged or not, man.
I don't think so.
And I'm not a boxing aficionado.
But good for the guy.
I'll watch the next one.
You got me.
You got me.
I'll watch one now.
Yeah, sure.
So will everybody else.
And they know that.
Which is why they keep giving him these fights.
Slow hype, slow bills.
Not bad, eh?
And we enjoyed Frank Gore versus Darren Williams, right?
I enjoyed Frank Gore.
Punched him through the ring.
I love Frank Gore, man.
I love him, too, but, I mean, he probably shouldn't have took this.
No, clearly not.
And I heard they was beefing, like they was talking hella shit to each other.
Well, that looked like beef.
Yeah, it did it looked like he had beef with frank gore or maybe he thought that he might have thought that frank
gore was jerry sloan he tried to take him down he tried to teach jerry sloan old ass a lesson go
ahead who else deron williams should have some beef with. There's one more guy he should have some beef with, one of them point guards.
Who was he already compared to?
Oh, Chris Paul.
Chris Paul.
Yeah, nah, he should want to slap Chris Paul's face off too.
But Chris Paul got hands.
Chris Paul, boop-bop him back.
Yeah, Chris Paul got hands.
He beat the shit out of Frank Gore, son.
This was beef.
I didn't watch this fight, but I just looked at the highlights.
This was beef.
He represented for the light skins.
He wanted to do that.
That's all H cares about.
Yeah.
His light skin representation.
By the time y'all got a win,
so let him get that.
Y'all.
Y'all.
Y'all, am I the only black guy
that don't do that?
I don't do that.
I don't do that either,
but we got-
You just did it.
You did it.
Yeah, because y'all tease me
all the time about the light skin shit.
So you do it.
I don't.
Fam, I'm-
If at any juncture,
somebody can throw a joke your way
and then you do it,
then you do it.
All right, man. Yo, if somebody says, yo, your way and then you do it, then you do it. All right, man.
Yo, if somebody says, yo, Joe Budden, you fucking suck, and I hit some crack, then I smoke crack.
It's not, yo, I only smoke crack, as that nigga told me.
No, I'm a crack smoker, man.
All right, Mr. Semantics on this topic.
Well, fuck it.
Shout to the light-skinned Deron Williams.
Boop-bopped him.
Because everybody counted him out.
I didn't want to see
Frank Gore go out like this.
He didn't either.
If you're having
too much fun with this
damn
this little topic here, man.
Nah, he really
I ain't think
I ain't think
Frank Gore looking like
yo, get out!
He look like
he's screaming out.
Why they ain't stop
he looking at his corner.
Yo, stop this shit, man.
He fixed the corner
right for him.
He like, yo, this is a charity event.
Well, shout out to those gentlemen.
Shout out to everybody who took part in this card.
This is a real entertaining weekend.
Yeah.
It was out there.
It did its job.
Yo, Christmas on a Saturday just don't have the same ring to it. I don't even know what I'm supposed to do.
It is a little funny. I have no idea what I'm supposed to do. Christmas on a Saturday. You don't have the same ring to it. I don't even know what I'm supposed to do. It is a little funny.
I have no idea what I'm supposed to do.
Christmas on a Saturday.
You don't even really get the day off.
And you can't hang.
People aren't hanging.
Yeah.
Like, Thursday is the best day.
Thursday, Friday.
Because they roll right into the long weekend.
Yeah, Thursday, Friday.
Ain't Thanksgiving always on Thursday?
Yeah.
Thanksgiving is always.
They need to apply that same rule to Christmas.
Yeah, let's petition To get Christmas Day on Friday
Christmas Eve on Thursday
Yeah
From henceforth
What?
Only people that benefits
Are people like us
That have like regular jobs
Yeah I don't give a fuck
About that
About what?
We get them extra days
Nah it still don't feel the same
It still don't feel the same
Even though I'm self-employed
It don't feel the same
That it's on a weekend
Yeah
I just think
Because of the times we in right now
with all of this that's going on,
it ain't going to feel like Christmas
no matter what day it's on.
This year.
With the year that we've all had.
You got a point.
It's not the holiday festive spirit.
But why?
It gets fucked up out here right now.
It gets fucked up out here.
You think it's more fucked up
than it was last year at the time?
No, but it's different this year because it started to feel like it was sort of getting back to...
Changing or getting better?
Yeah, people thought we was on the way back, and then it's...
And last year, niggas had PPP money they was leaning on, unemployment they was leaning on.
Now, niggas is robbing you and your girl when y'all eating steak.
Wasn't doing that last year.
It's different.
Dog.
What?
What?
Nothing.
Westside Gun says he had an emergency health scare
and is on his way to the hospital to pray for him.
Pray for me.
They had to call for emergency.
I couldn't breathe.
It's under control now, but on the way to hospital
two times this month.
It's under control now, but on the way to hospital two times this month.
See, I can't say what I want to say because y'all already think I'm a Westside Gun hater.
You are.
Okay.
Well, what is there to hate about it?
It's not to hate, but why are you posting this on the way to the hospital, dog?
It's your important thing.
You're also rough here. Nobody posts nothing no more. Nah, it's just important prayers y'all so rough nobody can post nothing no more
nah it's just
an over shit
like fam
if I want my fans
or people to pray for me
some people believe
in the power of prayer
he might want people
to pray for him
fam the guy that
wants to talk to
the public
is probably gonna be
the guy that
couldn't breathe
two seconds ago
right right
street nigga too
telling people
to pray for me
I'm scared
I don't look at this
like somebody crying in their phone I had a health scare and this too telling people pray for me i'm scared i don't look at this like
somebody crying in their phone yeah i had a health scare and this could have ended it for me right so
even then wait let me finish let me land with entertainers if he don't share his message tmz
will or the shade room will or whoever get their hand on it first this year good point so i mean
let me get it let me get it out first yeah let me control my message and my narrative, man.
Then it'll be he OD'd or he potentially did.
Yeah, no, no, no.
I stand corrected.
Again, and it wasn't about him.
It's just when I see people do that.
Oversharing and things of that nature.
Because even in that example, I would have thought it would be like I got home and, yo, I just had a health scare, but I'm good now.
I know what happened.
But when you made that point, that TMZ shade room,
somebody get that, throw your information out there,
yeah, you do want to get ahead of it.
Because he going to the hospital.
There's these blog sites that are just in touch with the hospital.
Oh, man, they got all the ambulances.
They got all the niggas in pocket.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
They know you got arrested.
They know everything.
Y'all want to talk about the boss?
We could.
We could.
A round of applause.
Clap it up for the boss.
Bruce Springsteen.
Not Rick Ross.
Bruce Springsteen sold his rights, his catalog, and his catalog.
For $550 million.
Hey, bro.
Double applause.
Yeah.
Why Bruce Springsteen's $500 million deal signals a perfect storm brewing in music.
The boss is cashing in, and that could have big implications for the music business.
Bruce Springsteen sold both his master and publishing rights to Sony in a deal worth
no more than $500 million.
According to multiple outlets, Sony and Springsteen did not immediately respond to Yahoo Finance's request for comment.
Yeah, I wouldn't either.
Yes.
Not responding to shit with 500 in the back.
Not at all.
Fuck you.
On top of what he already had.
Yeah, exactly.
I'll see you later.
I'm going to respond, all right?
You better get a smoke signal from the top of a mountain in Italy somewhere.
Not even.
See, and this is where I just push back against people that tell me
that older catalogs may not be
as important in the streaming era
because the kids may not want to hear
Bruce Springsteen.
I don't think that matters
if you're the rights owner.
I think if you're the rights owner,
you find a way to get paid
when you have a catalog that's like that.
It's Bruce Springsteen.
Them songs is getting fucking used
in all types of commercials
and movie,
TV show for life.
For life.
And not only that,
and not to sound morbid
or something,
but when somebody passes,
we know what happens.
Oh, yeah.
No, I was talking
to my dad about that.
And it's like,
I completely understand
selling it,
so I don't have to worry
about the bullshit
that's going to come with it.
Exactly.
And not for nothing,
yeah, maybe the catalog
will be worth $2 billion
in a couple years, but I'm not going to be here enjoying it.
I made $500 million.
I got $500.
I'll see you later.
Like, come on.
I can take this and invest it and turn that into $2 billion.
And turn it into $2 billion.
That's true.
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
You can think of some things to do with a spare $500 million.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
That's $500, like you said, on top of what he already—
Right.
The biggest sales of back catalogs
Steve Nix
Neil Young
Bob Dylan
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Bruce Springsteen
Springsteen's first
Bob Dylan is second
can you pull me up
the biggest black
catalogs
off the top of my head
not to make it a race thing
but I would just like to know
Wayne got 100.
Yeah.
That's the only one I could think.
Especially from hip hop, that's not bad.
Dream got a big number.
Yeah, I forgot Dream.
Did Babyface go?
Somebody else big went like that.
What does he pull it up?
It's fine.
We can move on, but you can pull it up for my own information.
But shout out to
all those artists man
the amount of work
that has to be done
for you to get this off
that's gonna be fly
like 70 years old
or whatever
be like
cash me out
Dream sold 75% of his
for 23 million
okay
Wayne sold his shit
for 100
Wayne got a buck
because I remember
we even asked
Ron Sweeney
if he thought that
it was good.
I read an article that said, Wayne, they're going to make a billion dollars off of Wayne.
Sure.
Easy.
Easy money.
Yeah, all the companies that are buying this shit are going to make a lot of money off
They're not going to do it if they're not going to buy it.
Right.
They already got a prescription for how they're going to make the money.
No doubt.
Yeah, but if you don't have $100 million, it's none of our business how they make it.
Right?
Oh, yeah.
Not only that.
We can't even figure out how they do it because we can't come to the table with $100.
But the guy that got $100?
He'll figure something out.
No, dog.
I'm not mad at neither party.
Like, Wayne could fuck around and take that $100 and make $400, $500 out of that.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I'm not mad at that at all.
At the time Wayne sold that, remember what he was facing.
Right.
And I'm not mad at that at all. At the time Wayne sold that, remember what he was facing. I'm not counting nobody
bread. If Wayne got $100
and he was happy with $100 million,
if I'm looking
at possibly doing
10 years,
I might need to have a nest egg
one way or another.
That's true. For your family?
Yeah, family and shit like that.
I got to make some shit happen right now. If he wasn't going to jail, $100 million is still $100 million. Wayne your family, whatever. Yeah, family and shit like that. I might have to, I got to make some shit happen right now.
If he wasn't going to jail, $100 million is still $100 million.
Yeah, I was going to say, Wade's like our age.
Can you imagine being halfway through your career?
He younger than us.
With 100.
Yeah, I got 100.
And now I can go start from scratch and build up again?
And build another 100.
What do y'all think of Elon Musk saying that he paid out 11 billion taxes?
For those that were wondering. don't look over here Phil
I don't
I think
I ain't minding
wealthy people business
nah I just think
it's above people's heads
I think that
it's above mine
like when you break it down
and they
and they discussed it
he made
he made mad money
right
I think he made like 400 read that list I'll go over leave it 400 million some shit whatever the number is And they discussed it. He made mad money.
I think he made like 400 million. Read that list.
I'll go over it.
Leave it.
400 million, some shit.
Whatever the number is.
But then he took...
So let's just say you make $1,000.
You take 200.
You reinvest it in something else.
You take 400.
You reinvest it in something else.
You take 300.
You reinvest it in something else.
Bro, so now you spent 900 out of your thousand
and new shit so now you should only get taxed on 100 that's just how the government and taxation
works what most people really don't understand and they mad at is because they work a nine to
five job they don't have nothing that they can write it off on and so now you feel like the
odd man left out because you don't really have anything that
you could um use as a deduction and you don't make enough to invest but that's how the government
makes money like they give you a tax break for some shit that they can't do so if you put your
money over here in an apartment complex if you put your money over here some research and development
you put some money over here The government can't really invest
In those things per se
So they're giving you tax breaks on that
Because now that housing
Adds housing for more people in the government
This R&D adds to technological advances
Etc, etc
Like fam, that's just how the world works
Yeah
Because the motherfuckers that be complaining
Sometimes are the employees
Of the niggas that got the tax breaks
It's just a cycle
So my thing is I don't want tax breaks Huhiggas that got the tax breaks. It's just a cycle.
So my thing is, yo. I want tax breaks.
Huh?
I want tax breaks.
Everybody wants tax breaks.
Motherfuckers out here getting earned income credit,
they getting a tax break.
Same shit.
I just think that you just,
unfortunately, you just got to level up
and get to a place where you could get it.
Everyone's just playing the game.
What I noticed is the ones who complain about what the wealthy are paying in the taxes and
stuff are usually the ones who get a refund from the taxes.
Of course.
And they're not getting a refund, is what I'm saying.
They paying.
Jones, I don't know.
I'm out of this.
That's my new shit for 2022. When I don't know, I'm just telling you I don't know. Don out of this That's my new shit For 2022
When I don't know
I'm just telling you
I don't know
Don't look for me
To have a comment
It's just a real
It's a real fine line
It's really an educational line too
It is
Because you could go
Do certain shit
Even if you're a 9 to 5
Or you could do certain shit
And write it off
And write it off
You could do certain shit
That'll lower your tax liability
Charitable donations
Write it off
Yo that's another one of God's Sick little sense of humor thingamajiggies
like to make broke people just save their receipts.
That's a lot of fun.
Hey, let me get some Jolly Ranchers.
No, no, I need the receipt.
You don't got to do it no more like that because credit cards do it for you.
Credit cards will itemize your purchases, but I don't know.
I think niggas just need to step their game up, in my opinion.
Well, the system is designed.
You need to keep people stupid.
So they don't know.
Not stupid, but uninformed.
It's profit.
Yeah, it's profit.
And the masses being uninformed.
If everybody knew what was going on and knew how to play the game,
there'd be no game no more.
Yeah.
And that's the way they have to keep it.
In order for the haves to have, they got to keep the have-nots.
I would love to.
We need to get some info.
We need to see National Vacation Week,
where just everybody vacations from work in the same week.
We mean impossible.
We're not trying to abide by the rules and regulations.
You said everybody go all in the same week?
One week.
Niggas be bitching about traffic, bitching about missing
flights. That's what I'm just saying. You can't get liquor from the
liquor store on your vacation. Impossible.
I think toilet tissue was sold out last year.
Fuck you talking about when you can't go to
the store because everybody working at the
store is on vacation. That's why we'll never get that
fear. Listen to the niggas that don't
work down the five. Look at all of the fear that y'all
put out there and all of the reasons as to why we couldn't do it
hey where's that super high meme i saw applies or somebody say one of these niggas was high one day
and they said the biggest trick that the government ever pulled
was making you think that you had 24 hours in the day this is why me and isha are friends or
frenemies whatever we are no but No, but yeah, he's right.
The biggest trick the government ever pulled was making you believe that there was 24 hours in a day.
You sleep eight of them.
Right.
So you really only got 16.
Right.
So now you're giving them half of your working hours.
Maybe more than half because traffic, getting dressed, ironing clothes, all that shit.
As silly as that sounded, I thought it was pretty ill.
That's profound.
getting dressed, ironing clothes, all that shit.
As silly as that sounded, I thought it was pretty ill. That's profound.
Like, fam, you literally spending more than half of your waking hours
at work for another motherfucker.
And if they didn't trick you into thinking that you had to work to live
and survive, like 401K and all this other bullshit.
Hey, save up to stop working for a week.
Just one week.
And watch what happens.
What?
I'm telling you.
Repeat what you said.
We need a stoppage of work in all fields where change needs to happen.
I agree with that.
Listen, I say it every year.
But it's easier said than done.
Of course, it'll never happen.
You can't afford it.
No, you're right, though.
We can't afford it.
There's no unity.
We hate each other.
It's mad reason.
It'll never happen.
I saw a sign just yesterday.
I'm wishing on a star.
And it said said together we bargain
separately we beg
and that's really it
that's a good one
yeah
no that's the one
that's the one
ooh I wish I could
expound on that one
that's such a great one
that's dope
what do young kids say
big facts
yeah
fact though
but people don't know that
and most people
are just
just
conditioned to be for self
and they do everything
in the world
and media
and news
and everything else
to pit us against each other
politics
indeed
again
you have
if we all was on the same accord
their game would break
it would
the matrix would crack
you never saw the meme
I only told all the podcasters that.
Yeah, you never saw the meme?
Before the companies jumped in the podcast world.
Not to make everything about podcasts.
No, that makes sense.
But that was a fact.
It's a meme, and they got all the powerful people playing.
I think it's Monopoly.
But the table legs are people.
And they like, yo, what they need to understand is the game over the minute they stand up.
Like they bent over, and the game over the minute they stand up. Like they bent over
and the game is on their backs.
Right?
So basically,
we playing the game
on the back of y'all.
And they say,
yo, what they need to realize
is the second that they stand up,
the game is over.
And that's true.
They don't like standing up
and they don't like to do it.
Oh, and here we are
with Bob Marley
is number one
with the black people
that sold their rights.
50 million.
Island back to sound
or Chris Blackwell
sold rights to the
Langerian Bomb.
All these catalogs
the primary wave
in January 2018
for upwards of 50 million dollars.
All right, keep going.
That seems
oh yeah, too.
We got Smokey Robinson
22 million deal.
What?
See, and this is
and this is why I asked.
Wow.
That is why I asked.
What? Do you only hit Smokey Robinson, bro? But look, look what they got. The 22 million deal see and this is and this is why I asked wow that is why I asked what
do you know how many hits
Smokey Robinson wrote
but look
look what they got
the 22 million deal
gave Primary Wave
ownership of songs
he wrote by himself
prior to 1960
as well as
everything written
after 78
alright
there's a 20 year gap there
oh
that's a pretty important gap
2016 too
I don't care though
it's still low yeah Ray Charles May 2020 I don't care though it's still yes yeah ray charles may 2020 i don't say primary
wave it don't say the money by shit don't say the money keep going is i see what's going on
i thought prince was on that list slow down according to independent 2017 universal acquired
the rights to 25 prince albums through his label MPG Records.
The deal gave Universal exclusive licensing rights to the late artist's work,
and they are able to release much of Prince's private archive.
Prince died in 2016 at the age of 57.
No odd number there as well.
It doesn't tell you what the albums are.
War.
The funk rock band War sold the rights to their catalog,
including the band's hits such as Low Rider, Why Can't We Be Friends, and't we be friends and slipping all right they don't even announce the money anymore they don't
have to if number one but keep going 50 million yeah that's true keep going all right that's it
but that why can't we be friends they made their money back off of that yeah one war's got a couple
of them one day smoky getting 25 or whatever that was. One day, we're going to really dig deep into this.
Remember I said it.
Remember I said it.
I think this is an old magazine article, yo.
Yeah, I think this is.
It had to be.
It's not.
Because Wayne not up there.
And Wayne got 100.
We all know Wayne got 100.
And he's not up there.
That's true.
Go find it.
Go find it.
But the discrepancy is large.
The gap is large.
That's all I wanted to say.
I wanted to see how large.
And Bob Marley, not for nothing.
It's a little crazy.
And Prince.
Yeah.
Well, they didn't say Prince's number,
so I'm not really chirping off that.
And they just said 25 albums.
I don't know if that's all the shit from the vault
that's never been released,
that they've been releasing every year so i can't really judge
that one but smoky and and bob marley bob marley's got a lot of hits yo it's a mess oh yeah wait a
minute wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute i'm reading more about because i was trying to
pull up you said find it about the wayne shit it's saying wayne sold the young money catalog 400 million huh yeah bam oh that mean
i sold nikki and drake too yeah oh yeah somebody no it means i sold whatever i had of nikki and
drake because we don't know when those rights ended that's true yeah we don't know what's
okay but we know that they're early they're're Nicki's first album, Drake's first couple.
We know that's what they're doing.
Who did it sell to?
Let's see.
I dare you say Primary Wave.
Prince sold to Primary Wave.
I know.
Everyone sold to Primary Wave.
Everyone sold to Primary Wave.
Universal.
Or Universal.
Ooh.
Ooh, I can't but I wish
That's crazy
That water ain't blue
Wow
That water ain't blue
It's also with the
Dwayne shit
There's a lot of
I don't knows
Because I don't know
How much of the catalog
He owned
Being that there was
What I'm reading here
Says Drake's albums
Before and including
2018's Scorpion Were released on Dwayne label, but all other projects since have come out under its own imprint.
Nicki's entire catalog, including Queen, has been released under Young Money.
But again, how much of those catalogs did Wayne own is the question.
Got you.
Okay.
Because if he only owned a quarter or something like that, then $100 million is pretty good. Got you. Okay. Because if you only own their portion, if you only own a quarter
or something like that,
then $100 million
is pretty good.
You know what I mean?
Whatever the percentage is.
Gotcha.
There's not enough
information there,
in my opinion.
You all would know more.
Bob Marley and Smokey
getting $25 and $50
is crazy.
I think Ray Charles
got a nice bag.
I think.
I would hope so.
Because Ray Charles
was about his business.
And Tina Turner sold to BMG.
How much do you know?
Let's see if there's a number.
50?
50?
That's still loaded.
Tina Turner's catalog isn't as extensive as Smokey and Bob Marley.
That's a 60-year catalog.
That's true.
But I'm sure Ike owns a lot of that shit.
Ike owns a bunch of that shit, too.
Again, yeah, see, I didn't know about percentages of the catalog.
I didn't know that.
It's important.
It's important to know how much of it they own.
It probably makes sense.
I'm pretty sure, hey, look, if the artist sold, it made sense to them.
Right.
For whatever reason.
And not for nothing, 50 million is 50 million. For someone like Smokey whatever reason. And not for nothing, 50 million is 50 million.
For someone like Smokey.
When you're 80 years old, 50 million is 50 million.
I'll take 50.
Smokey's.
That is true, too.
Smokey's.
I don't know if y'all know how many hits on Smokey wrote.
I know.
But again, if he was okay with the deal.
True.
For whatever reason.
True.
He was okay with the deal, though.
True.
So I got nothing to say about it
and dog
a lot of artists from back in
yesteryear
we all know
they wasn't on top of their business
because it wasn't that thing
right
might have been broke when he sold that
could have been
you never know
I don't think that was the case
with Smokey
I'm saying we don't know
yeah we don't know
could have been
I agree
what you
what you got
what you queuing up over there
K
sleepers alright queuing up over there sleepers
alright
queuing up
sleepers
going to my man
Jack James
soon as I find it
okay
well we'll talk
while you look
for your
Jack James record
there it is
okay
right there Okay Right there You lose your buttons Morning, where you feelin'?
You left the world so past the drugs
Trade for the pain to phase out
You take the highway
Distant from your sanity
You left out on Dynasty
Jack James, it's called No Drama
Let's go then
More than a woman
You fall deep, but you need more than a lover
Down at the bar at four in the morning
Teach you to swim deep, stroke in the middle
And it go
Yeah, yeah, yeah
You're too hard to handle, you decide
And I'm coming back from suicide
You need no more drama You ain't got none, and your heart's done up for me
Know your heart's done up for me
Know your heart's done up for me
Know your heart's done up for me
Know your heart's not enough for me
Drunk when you sober on sleepless nights, call me over
Turn your nightmares to sweet dreams Kiss and tell under the sheets
You missed out on all this good loving, good touching
Filled my intentions, who went by to keep you waiting?
More than a woman, you fall deep But you need more than a lover
Drown at the bar at four in the morning
Teach you to swim deep, strolling in the middle of the room
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're too hard to handle You decide, no coming back from suicide
No more, what you need's down You need none, and you bought a letter, still waiting on the con, ah
Brand new music from Jack James, JVCK, that one is called No Drama
So if it's EP, put out early this year, shout out to Jack.
All right, I'm going to play a, how you say, brand new old music.
All right.
Yeah, I'm going old.
But I like what this dude was saying on this record.
This is an old record by Plyce It's called Letter to the Industry
Let me real quick
It's Tuesday
424 AM
Got a few things I wanna go over and discuss
Wanna send a kite to the industry real quick
Let these niggas know
How I really feel
I hope there's enough ink in this motherfucker feel I hope there's enough ink in this
motherfucker tonight make sure I got enough VSOP make sure I got enough
refill cause I'ma be here a minute it's gonna be a long time
think I'm in the wrong place thought I was in the music business
lot of you niggas doing music but ain't nobody doing business
everybody want favor who you niggas doin' music, but ain't nobody doin' business Everybody want favor, who you niggas fuckin' kiddin'?
My brother went to prison, ain't none of you niggas fuckin' busy
A nigga want me on his album, take care of his fuckin' business
Paperwork, art, and split, that's how you know the business
Labels got you niggas fooled, got you thinkin' it's y'all pittin'
A lot of you niggas music whores, cause y'all niggas don't get it
I'll understand you niggas though, cause all I hang around is bitches
Soon as you make a bitch mad, first thing she do is twist
A bitch don't get what she want, second thing she do is flip it
Fuck niggas, tell a lie, real niggas pay attention
Two niggas beefing me, one hot, one in
No awards, filthy rich, guess what, ain't trippin'
OG's, OG's, cause them niggas control they feelings
Killers killin' killers don't tell your niggas that they killin'
The nigga that tell the story first
The nigga don't pay no fuckin' shit
Niggas lie for one reason
To boost they motherfuckin'
And we hear niggas droppin' names
Project comin' out of the minute
The only names you niggas say are ones that the streets feelin'
The road street brand
You got to get in the streets and go and get it
The niggas that talk the most shit
The main niggas that ain't out city
The ride ride niggas
Be the same nigga that Coach Stitchin'
The game real simple, homie
It's all talk and no killin'
A bunch of niggas that sit around
And try to come up with gimmicks
If you ain't real, homie
You don't know what's real and what isn't
I never rapped about a nigga in prison
That ain't winning fuckin' visits
Three albums and they ain't dropped one name Still winning, told you niggas from day one
Plus that nigga ain't frillin' Real niggas can't be in my latest
And y'all tryna fuckin' visit I keep my eyes on you niggas
And fuck with you from a distance My principles is non-negotiable
Point blank period
It's kinda hot in this motherfucker
Yo, you're sleeping, Prickly. you should be taken away from you no no honestly
i hate him.
Yeah, the speakers are short-circuiting, Ice.
You don't play the whole song, do you? Yup.
Give me one second verse.
I was sitting over here like, what the fuck am I listening to?
I don't expect you to understand, sir.
That's a letter to the industry party, man.
I don't know a lot, dog.
I really wish he would have just wrote the letter.
He did write the letter
I wish we could've read it
Instead of
Hearing
No no no no
He had to deliver it
Cause what he had to say
Need to be heard
That was a mess
No it wasn't
It wasn't
No I was over here like
What the fuck
I don't expect you old niggas
To get it
What year this came out
I wasn't old in 2010
I wasn't old neither
Yes you was In 2010 I wasn't old neither Yes you was
In 2010
I ain't listening to no nigga screaming in my ear
Let me tell you the plies I like
Lil Busset Baby
There's some plies I like
Shorty
Yeah you like that
R&B plies
I'ma play some Nick Grant
You put out a little four pack
Shout out to Nick Grant
This is holy ghost
Backpacker shit
Nick Grant can rap He can ghost. Nick Grant can rap, yo.
Everybody Park Flays can rap.
Let's go, Nick.
I ain't even hear it.
I know it's going to be better than that plaza shit.
Fresh about the bricks, my mama had me when she was a kilo.
Almost took her life, she cried a river to let me flow.
Now everything I write is young Nicky Barnes in a peacoat
I catch you at the light with your bitch, get hit with the rego
I tour with Escobar, I hung with Nas, I come too far
I move the white like pop the stars, I move the rock, I strum guitar
My niggas practice safe sex, but they still cuttin' raw
In Hollywood they want the soft, they hit them lines like Russian yards
Who's the wildest, George Latour? From a cloth not cut no more
Bought them ARs that they grip
Don't mean artists and repertoire
I pull up and set the bar
Remember my sister caught my father hittin' the product
Nigga so high he fell asleep on top the toilet
It's that high-end shit, you want it then buy in
My niggas just tryna make ends meet
So teleconnect, you can die here
Forever thuggin', we don't cry tears
I put it together like I care
I break this shit down like an insecure bitch
Life's sweet, but I wish I would switch Everybody want the dope, tell me something I don't cry tears. I put it together like I care. I break this shit down like an insecure bitch. Life's sweet But I wish I would switch. Everybody want the dope. Tell me something I don't know
I might pull up in the lam, cause they saying I'm the GOAT. Pac spittin at the pops nigga. Stand back you niggas close
Niggas be selling they soul. You moving that drill. You shoveling snow. I'm like Johnny Depp in that blow flick
Uh, everything is alright. Me immortal to a small mind. Feel like Jordan till you're starting five Boy, I live this shit, you glorify
I kill the competition, pour it out
God told me, let it go, I got it
Fake love and a dark smile, big heart for a small guy
Nigga walked up on me like, what size?
Told a nigga, your size
Potato on a barrel, yeah, the beef came with a large fry
I'm a shark in a small pond
Fuck 12, time to pick the pork rinds
Everything I write is hard fine
I should open up some doors, huh?
Been gettin' money, pickin' through the racks like that's a hard fine
I'm a odd nigga, yeah, they thought I OD'd Cause a nigga at a all-time high
All-time, this the illest shit of all time Yeah, these niggas playin' both sides
That's a war crime, niggas offsides Nigga, fuck that, I need all mine
In the ghetto, I'm the tall guy Feel like Russell in the Argyle
Sweet life, but I'm courtside Yeah yeah kick it out like it's fourth down
Nigga Muay Thai, pull a Porsche out, bare arms like a Boy Scout Head arm, leg, leg, arm, I'm a short shot
What you talking about? It's a black thing, real nigga ain't no vaccine Say you sold for a rap dream, that's a bad dream
If you ask me, niggas whack, if you ask me Flow good as living tax free, let the money grow, keep the grass green
Need a black queen, not a trap queen, semi-automatic in the trap, ring another black teen
Dodge, yeah, mother cry, same song, sad scene
Seen it all, baby, I done been here before
Niggas gettin' framed for the murder like dead
Picture niggas on the wall, feelin' like Lorenz in his debut
Pay a nigga what you owe, dawg, from the bottom ain't no hope for us
Keep the enemies close towards, ain't nobody close towards
Diamond in the rough, but I'm sittin' smack in the middle
When I face niggas like like Macaulay Culkin
My nigga that was so raw, not a tough guy, no sir
But if a nigga trip, get the brochure Country nigga in the dunk, y'all
Yeah they hit a lick and drove off Old lady on the porch, y'all
Saying how the world is so lost Outside playing on an empty stomach
Ain't no food stamps on the card This why I'm forever going hard
Another episode showing off Taking shoes off at the door Hold follow why I'm forever going hard. Another episode showing off. Take your shoes off at the door.
Hold, follow protocol.
I'm a product of the boulevard.
Rolling ball paint on the Chevy.
Pulling off.
Preacher selling hope.
Bitches selling box.
Niggas cooking dope.
Culinary arts.
I can smell a flaw from a hundred yards.
You ain't got a front.
Just be who you are.
Think of Kobe.
I'm LeBron Jordan with the hang time.
All in one.
Nigga face down in the pool.
Tony told me at the well is your cheek.
I'm not above.
That is Holy Ghost by Nick Grant.
Shout out to Nick Grant, man. He's super dope.
Thank you, Nick, for clearing Ice's sleeper
out of my head.
Nick was about to wrap me into a coma too, though.
Yeah, that same flow.
I liked it.
I ain't gonna lie. Nah, Nick's
the home team.
I'm going some old head shit.
This is Brian McKnight
and Justin
Timberlake
sleepers are
all over the
place
man
that's dope
that's dope
shit When I was younger, I never went too far
All my feelings, I never even wanted to start
So when I met you, I didn't know
What you were gonna do with my heart
When you talk, I'm on everyone's music
When we move, like the breeze on a summer day
When you smile, the sky turns from gray to blue That's what you do
And you're the kind of girl I think of
And you're the kind of girl I think of
I need you in my world, in my world
Cause you're my kind of lady, you're my kind of girl
When I'm not with you, wherever you are
Baby, I'm counting
I'm coming back still, I'm back in your arms
All I want is to have you here with me
Every night, every day
When you talk
I hang on every word you say
When you move
Like the breeze on a Saturday
When you smile
The sky turns from grey to blue
And that's what you do
I know the girl, kind of girl I think of
You're the kind of girl I dream about
I need you in my world
My world
Cause you're my kind of lady
Easily the most diverse sleeper session.
That was the most light-skinned sleeper that we've ever played.
I like when the sleepers are diverse.
And Ice played the most dark-skinned sleeper that we ever played.
Yo, the funny shit is...
You're not my type of girl.
You hated it because of...
I'm a nice guy.
You hated it because of Plaz's delivery on the record.
Everything he said, Plaz. That's why I that's why i won't you spend time with me
it's from the same nigga that just said yo the r&b niggas can't rap i may sing about r&b no more so you had to show us some real r&b kiss in the sun when it rains and we love going to bed
together
hold the hands while we sing
yo they just said all the
lights can sit you down
and when we play foot season
and you
make me a sandwich
don't do that shit again
don't do that shit again man Don't do that shit again man
That's the problem
With y'all like
Learning how to pod
And like
Coming in your
Y'all own
Y'all just gonna do
Y'all own shit
Like that
As opposed to
What I want you to do
I don't have control
Alright I hope you guys Got something you can Pull from out of this Alright
I hope you guys got something
You could pull from out of this
I'm off to see if these
Megan Good divorce rumors are true
Give us a prayers
We forgot to say rest in peace
To Kangol Kid in our
Sad segment For you TFO Rest in peace Kang in peace to Kangol Kid in our sad segment.
For you, TFO.
Rest in peace to Kangol Kid.
You know who Kangol Kid is, Ice?
No.
I thought we didn't last behind.
No.
No, we didn't.
We didn't.
Rest in peace, Kangol Kid.
You was, yo, you.
You not asking me if I know who Kangol Kid is.
I would hope you know who Kangol Kid is.
Knock the fuck off, man.
I thought we did that.
No, we didn't.
I don't like how we did that.
Fuck.
We didn't forget.
That was a monster.
Kangokid, man.
Hip-hop song.
Kangokid, man.
The legend.
Rest in peace.
Rest in peace.
Y'all really hope to not do a rest in peace.
Word.
At least give us an episode off.
Or two.
Just give us.
Let us make it.
Let that be the last one of the year at least that
how about we do this thing what we don't even mention it no more every time we mention it
yeah three more at us yeah it's cool yo keep us in your prayers lord knows we need to be there
it's a holiday week hug your loved ones nigga next to you nigga right by your side
tell your family you love them.
Get gifts for the people you care about, man.
Life is short, life is fragile.
Life is precious, man.
Here it goes.
It's kind of funny how they fall back on me.
I used to never get a call back on me.
Before the money that is...
Who wasn't calling Dre back?
Loser.
But now they switching because the card black on me.
It wasn't always that way.
We was recording on the full track homie
Y'all hold it down man
Enjoy your time off
Enjoy your kids
Enjoy whatever brings you peace and joy in life man
And we will be back on Christmas day
From that far back homie
What it came to be
Would've never believed
Living the life I live in CBT
Until next time we bid you adieu
Farewell adios
Arrivederci
Hasta la vista
All that good stuff.
Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass.
So let's make this one last as if it's all we have.
And with that, bring the hook.
Here we go.
West Coast, I'm praying for y'all out there.
We love y'all.
No matter where we are, no matter what we do, it's going to be. I'm praying for y'all out there We love y'all Alright Do remember the baddies are insecure
The stagnant women wanna travel
And the closed minded women want you to teach them things
And if you are going to travel, please be careful.
Check the COVID rules wherever you're going.
Wear your mask.
Double up on the mask.
If you're in the airport, they spraying this Amarion shit through the air.
So everybody's catching it.
Just be careful, man.
Now it's 91 and Snoop Dogg came to visit.
And we gone.
Hope y'all enjoyed this.
2022, here we come
And then that night came in, when that nigga night came in
This one of them dreams you don't wake up from
Then again, you don't sleep if you come from where I come from
But the sunshine and they bust nines, no nine plus one one
When they run up on your school bus with a two-talkie, my love
It all falls back on me
You gotta let this hook ride
Somehow it all falls back on me You gotta let this hook ride Somehow it all falls back on me
Hey, I ain't gon' hold y'all, man
No matter where we are, no matter what we doin', it's on me
Y'all niggas should've ended me in 2021
It was up to you, this is the way
I'ma kick y'all, I'ma kick y'all fuckin' ass next year
Oh, nah, I'll be on
I'll be on
Hey, y'all should've gave me the little kick to make sure you wasn't moving
Sorry
I'll show you better than I can tell you, 2022
Ayy, look how smooth Dre is, yo
I think that was Bink, too
I think that was Bink, too
Go ahead then was Bink, too. I think that was Bink, too. Go ahead, then, Bink.
Oh.
Give him a little piano on the fade out.
Give me some love.
Let you know what's happening.
Come on, man.
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