The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 515 | "Work In Progress"

Episode Date: March 5, 2022

Joe begins with letting people know that it's acceptable to be comfortable with yourself (11:50). Joe highlights the trend of artist evolving in music (37:00), Lil Durk and NBA Youngboy's tension (1:3...5:00), the return of music festivals (1:44:00), Morris Day & the time (2:20:05) and MORE!   Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden   Sleeper Picks Joe | Sevyn Streeter - “High Life” Ice | Kodak Black - “Let Me Know” Parks | The Alchemist & Kool G Rap - “Diesel” Ish | Black Thought - “At Your Service”

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Starting point is 00:00:00 you got a little frappuccino there buddy pumpkin spice you got two of them in like an hour that's some ish shit right there nah not no more cause you won't you know I'm trying don't really kill a man for his fame
Starting point is 00:00:17 in the meantime it's still starbucks who you audience audience thank you for joining us audience no honestly because we have an off mic conversation and I didn't jump in but you know we did this exact same thing about this time last year no we're not even starting with this I wasn't talking to you I wasn't talking to you. We're not going to ridicule me.
Starting point is 00:00:47 I'm not ridiculing you. I'm not ridiculing you. Fuck out of here. Yes, we are. I'm trying to lift my brother up in spirit. I don't need your lifting. Keep your arms straight. Wow.
Starting point is 00:00:54 You keep your arms straight. We good, Playboy. Wow. Nah, we good. Keep your arms straight. Anytime Playboy come out in New York, it's nasty. Yeah, it's nasty. It's a shot.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Yeah, it's nasty. All right, can I talk to Ice and Lee shot. It is. Yeah. All right. Can I talk to Ice? Not about Antoine. Sure you could. You're going to rock out. You good. You don't got to do that.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Ice. Frap away, nigga. This guy right here, yo. Oh, man. Because he'll say something like that and add no new alterations no that's not true we good alright come on
Starting point is 00:01:28 come on we moving on because I already see ball in his fist up he already called me I'm late boy I'm cool how you doing man I'm good man
Starting point is 00:01:35 I'm great let me direct my energy this way yeah I'm chilling I've done this before what's up buddy I'm chilling how you
Starting point is 00:01:42 damn what the fuck is this I'm good you still have tags on your shit no I do not he wanted to say it so bad say what nah he chillin
Starting point is 00:01:57 I ain't saying nothing dog you know his line we got Friday ish in the building I'm good bro come in here with this Friday cool shit I don't even know what you're talking about. Oh, all right. Everybody's good.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Everybody's good. Yes, sir. Glad. Glad. All right. That wasn't about shit, so I could just start. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Mm-hmm. Come on. Mm. I'm coming live with some Mase. Come on. From that school. Mic check, one, two, one, two. Alex, your dad wasn't even thinking about you yet when this dropped.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Here we go. It go And I didn't love this song when it dropped But boy has life just continued This became one of my favorites Off the top of my head Oh no He'll turn it off He was mad at somebody Yo
Starting point is 00:03:24 Mase never retires. The hip-hop landscape is totally, totally, totally different. Like, a lot of Jokers... I don't know if it's that many totalies, but it's different. That was a lot of totalies. Mace was... Mace was him, yo. I agree.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Yeah, absolutely. You won't get a fight out of me. Mace was him, yo. Mace, what up? No bullshit. Jokers wasn't. They know. Yeah, yeah, they did.
Starting point is 00:03:51 They know. Yo, you expound so well. No, I just can't even really put it in words. I'm just saying, like, Mace was. If you were talking to Mace. They wasn't dead. They wasn't born. They wasn't outside.
Starting point is 00:04:03 How old you? What year year we talking 97ish I was I was a teenager and you got the nerve to
Starting point is 00:04:11 call me the fiend washing the car you got some fucking nerve man
Starting point is 00:04:22 dog hey Man Dog Ayyy He go off on the last verse Shout out to the lovers out there listening What's good You don't really wanna be a crack boy, is it really that slanty, bitch? But you don't really wanna shoot Yo Hello? See?
Starting point is 00:05:02 Got it! Fuck off. Oh, man, yo. Remember Skits? The good old days. Skits. Yo, why they kill Skits, yo? Eh, they got pretty annoying, though.
Starting point is 00:05:18 A lot of people that shouldn't make Skits made Skits. That's true. Like who? Skits was not. I'm not gonna shit on nobody but there's a lot of not funny skits on albums after a certain point
Starting point is 00:05:28 that boy had the greatest skit but the people that were good at skits should've continued to do skits Mike Mike Mike Mike I'm just making sure we here, we good on the weekend. We got good weather in New York. It's the vibe I'm on right now.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Oh no. You know what I mean? Bluetooth in the Maybach. Music loud when they drying the car off at the car wash All these niggas looking at me, Stroud, don't give a fuck I don't care You gotta play some ignorant shit to let them know when you want some shit Hey
Starting point is 00:06:18 Hey I was listening to Game say that Game might be the best liar of all time. No, no. I'm sold. Game said he got a folder, a playlist in his phone with one song on it for if the plane is about to crash and he about to die,
Starting point is 00:06:42 which is Guapele, Closer to my dreams. I'll tell you what he said. Look what he said. He would be. He would be what? Closer to his dreams. To his dreams? There ain't no dream.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Word. I'm gonna get in the ass again. And if they're playing about the crash, you really thinking, they go, hold up, let me cut this cord. Yeah, word. Where my headphones at?
Starting point is 00:07:15 Are we good? I laugh about Al, yo. That's the funny part. Yo, man. He really, he really is optimistic about his where at the hall. I'm trying to do me. My crew be undue me. Yo, man. He really is optimistic about his where-a-thole.
Starting point is 00:07:33 That's you, Hesh. Oh, man. Oh, man. Let me just cut the song off. See, and that's what I mean About whenever tours start Like look Look what he just did He might do that in real time Something like that
Starting point is 00:07:53 We can't edit him out We gotta find a way To add like a delay When we go on tour We gotta find A song to the crowd out there Yeah we need that Men in black
Starting point is 00:08:04 Little one thingamajig. Y'all ain't hear that. He didn't say it. In case he go. Nah, NDAs at the door. Yeah, yeah, word. Take their phones. Chappelle, Chappelle this year.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Nah, I ain't gonna take nobody's phone. No, that's what they used to do under Chappelle and Kevin Hart. They take your phone. Take your phone. Yeah, nah, people can have their phone. Well, we gonna need an ish button or an ish feature. Yeah, a little live mute little live beep
Starting point is 00:08:26 alright how many jokers you think you're gonna give him I'm asking no no no that's coming what's the over under on the jokers
Starting point is 00:08:35 per show yeah per show this nigga said per show put me at seven over and under I'm going over seven oh over seven
Starting point is 00:08:41 it's gonna be a lot of jokers yo I'm gonna have so much fun yo I'm gonna have seven. Oh, over seven. It's going to be a lot of jokers, yo. I'm going to have so much fun. Yo, I'm going to have so much fun watching you just on a stage in front of people. I'm just watching you. Yo, you interesting. Wait. Yo, why is it an insult to call a man interesting?
Starting point is 00:09:00 Yeah, you interesting, bro. Nigga, because interesting can mean a whole bunch of shit. It just means interesting. I enjoy watching you. Yeah, you're interesting, bro. Nigga, because interesting can mean a whole bunch of shit. It just means interesting. I enjoy watching you. Yeah, people take words and manipulate them now. You got to be careful. That's what happens. That's true.
Starting point is 00:09:11 But why would you think a good, dear friend is trying to say that interesting is a bad thing? You my man. I ain't going to learn that about you. That's not right, bro. You are an intriguing man. You too. I'm the weirdest. I take the cake.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah. No, no, that's true. I take the cake. The cake is mine. Wait, who's trying to eat some? Wait, get off your hands on this cake. It's my cake. I don't know that part.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I didn't say that. At what age was y'all when y'all became all right with who y'all are? Oh, that was early. Late 20s. Come on now, tell the truth, yo. Tell the truth. Shut the fuck up. My little brother just sat here.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Everybody tell the truth. Joe. I'm not saying anyone's lying. I'm just saying. I'm telling you. Late 20s. Deep, deep. Don't give your surface answer.
Starting point is 00:09:59 No, no, no. Surface, bro. Yo, I think that most, because I think everybody still got their shit they ain't really comfortable with today. Of course, everyone's still got some shit. You know what I'm saying? So I don't think you get to an age where you're just 100% comfortable with yourself. No, you do. I disagree.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I disagree with that. Let's argue. I disagree with you. Yes. You think you're 100% comfortable with yourself? Oh, wait, let me enter the pod first. Hey, you guys, 5-4-5-14. Yeah, 5-15.
Starting point is 00:10:26 5-15, flying, flying through. Flying through the sky. I'll be about to have a fair one with a bird every morning now that the weather's trying to get nice.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I open the little balcony door. Niggas come sit right there on the little thing in my jiggy. I thought you You just left it
Starting point is 00:10:44 right by the restaurant. Fuck it. It was right there. When I'm talking about actual birds about fighting with a bird this is what y'all would do on tour I ain't even run the lane make a joke about fighting with a bird. You just left it right there. See, and this is what y'all would do on tour. I wouldn't. I ain't even run the lane. I stay back court. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:11:13 We're going to have whatever the script is in big words. We're going to tell the problem? Yeah, yeah. Big words up top. Big words up top. Just read one. Your name would say ish. I didn't even say nothing, though.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Anyway, welcome to episode 515 of the Joe Budden Podcast I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, highly favored Who cares? Who cares about me? The guys are here Y'all know what the fuck it is Whole bunch of people here Yeah, there's mad people here People in the back
Starting point is 00:11:39 Yada yada yada Hey, y'all good back there? Yeah Alright, alright Everybody's good How y'all doing? Great,'all good back there? All right. All right. Everybody's good. How y'all doing? Great. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Wonderful. Glad to hear that. Now, because you know, y'all was on an interesting little kerfuffle. Uh, when do you find yourself
Starting point is 00:11:53 comfortable with yourself? What did you say you disagree with ish? I think that as you know, and I'm, I'm well outside of Corey, I'm the oldest person here. I don't think that
Starting point is 00:12:03 you're a hundred percent comfortable with yourself ever. Because when you're 100% comfortable with yourself, you kind of lose the room to grow. Like when you're content, kind of you stop growing. That's my person. I ain't trying to serious as hell. I'm not. Oh, my God, yo. It's not what I'm trying to do.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Every time I be about to side with you, you get extra deep. No, I'm just saying, like 30-something, I probably started to really feel comfortable with who I was. Pause. 35. I let it go. That was disgusting. It was fun. That was flippin'.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Every time I try to side with you. You get extra deep. That make it sound like I'm in the S with this nigga. What? Oh, man. Don't laugh at that The S is the shit yo That's what make you
Starting point is 00:12:47 Want a girlfriend That's it The spoon The S The spoon That little Maneuver That's the only thing
Starting point is 00:12:54 Time out When you say S You be bending your knees Yeah What You sick Yeah That's why I gotta bend the knees
Starting point is 00:13:03 I'm not gonna fit on the couch straight out. Wait. No, nigga. You just be stiff as a board. Talk about that judgment. You be cuddling like a fucking mummy. You be planking and you do the cuddle. Think about what you're saying, yo.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Think about what you're saying. It's not a spool if you don't play the knees. It's a knife. Not a spoon. Everyone allow silence and room for him to really analyze his own fucking words and thoughts right now. S. Yeah. I don't be.
Starting point is 00:13:39 So what do you be, like a P or something? Wait. What the fuck do you be? I will start this pod with this, yo. This is that important. Yeah, yeah. This is more important than NBA Youngboy versus everybody. Yo, I'm lost. I will start this pod with this, yo. This is that important. Yeah, yeah. This is more important than NBA Youngboy
Starting point is 00:13:47 versus everybody. Yo, I'm lost. I'm lost. No, it's not leaving this one until you unpack it. I gotta say it on... Yeah, fam, that ass you bending.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Yeah, tell me. It's every... I don't do that. Yes, you do. I'm trying to imagine how you do it without bending your knees. When you're spooning?
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yeah. I can't spoon like this. Look How you do it without bending your knees When you're spooning Yes How you get spooned like this Look at you doing like this Nobody Well how do you How do you do that Without bending your knees Ish
Starting point is 00:14:12 And for those of you confused out there The S we talking about When you lay down in bed You spooning Big spoon little spoon With a woman Or with whoever you into I don't
Starting point is 00:14:20 And you get into your shit Yeah I don't be tucking my knees Under her butt No What That's how you S So what you leave a gap Like I'm to and you get into your shit. Yeah, I don't be tucking my knees under her butt. No. What? That's how you ask. So what, you leave a gap? I'm not trying to be funny. Then what are you doing with your legs? The butt and the thighs is like the nice part. Sam, I'm not
Starting point is 00:14:34 doing like this. You're laying down, so yeah, you look stupid sitting down doing this upright. Laying down? Why you don't do that? No, that's... You gotta make your arms a little wider that's not an s nigga i put my leg over yeah that's not the value like i put my leg over
Starting point is 00:15:01 ish you know all right let's start with the basics. You know knees are meant to bend. Like, you know that's why they have the functionality that they do. You got to bend them. Yeah. What do you do with your knees? I put my leg over. The whole night?
Starting point is 00:15:19 You sleeping wrong, bro. You cuddling wrong. I don't mean to tell you how to sleep. You cuddling, I am. You cuddling wrong. You cuddling wrong. You cuddling wrong. You cuddling wrong. You definitely cuddling wrong. I don't mean to tell you how to sleep. You cuddling, I am. You cuddling wrong. You cuddling wrong. You cuddling wrong. You cuddling wrong. You definitely cuddling wrong.
Starting point is 00:15:27 All right, I got you. Oh, maybe you're not a cuddler. But see what I mean about this man shit he get on? No, I cuddled. Yo, you bend your knees. I cuddle. Yes. So you do cuddle.
Starting point is 00:15:37 What? No, I'm just saying. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm trying to understand how you can cuddle without like scooping up under it. So you say. But you're not good at cuddling. No, you say. If you don't bend your knees But you're not good at cuddling. No, you say. If you don't bend your knees, you're not good at cuddling.
Starting point is 00:15:48 It's like, yo, I don't bend my knees, but I'm the twister champion. How? How? I don't believe that. So maybe you just go on all these years with nobody saying, you can relax a little bit here. You're not my favorite cuddler. You have this thing in your head
Starting point is 00:16:05 like I'm like yes I do and you won't remove the thought no it's not that then what do you do I just told you what I do typically I put my leg over but straight though
Starting point is 00:16:18 like you walking like you walking you know this nigga is a different dude. We just said you was interesting, right? Didn't we edit that out? I told him. Nah, I told you.
Starting point is 00:16:28 All right, yeah. Nah, do what we mean. Look how fast you became interesting. Dos Equis-ish. Holy shit. This nigga's nuts. Go ahead, man. Proceed.
Starting point is 00:16:38 I am stuck. I don't. Yeah. One of y'all got to start it. I am Jesus. We were talking about Being comfortable When you became comfortable No when you start
Starting point is 00:16:47 Being comfortable In your own skin Kinda Yeah that's what We was talking about I mean For me it was my late 20s I had a
Starting point is 00:16:53 You know Nah I think I had a girl That brought it out of me You know I think that's what does it You ain't even comfortable Enough to bend
Starting point is 00:17:00 Your fucking knees Yo That is so strange. But anyway, I think I still side with him somehow. What you mean? In this point. I think there's always going to be something.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Well, yeah, you can always grow. That don't mean you're not comfortable with yourself, though. That's two totally different things. Yeah. I can be completely comfortable with myself and still grow and be comfortable with that growth.
Starting point is 00:17:22 But what are you trying to improve upon if you're already comfortable where you are? Anything i'm i'm not arguing with you i'm asking you like because i think when that when i say when y'all said comfortable with yourself i'm taking that to mean like yo physically not just like this is whatever it could be a personality trait whatever this is who i am and i'm fine with that like if you don't like it I'm rolling on this one that's why I said like 75-80% I probably was comfortable
Starting point is 00:17:48 like in my 30s because again which 30s mid that's 10 years probably not like mid 30s probably like mid 30s because what happens is
Starting point is 00:17:57 especially with all the outside forces 9 years sorry all the outside forces around you you'd be lying if you're saying you're not influenced by them
Starting point is 00:18:03 so it's the Instagram generation we didn't necessarily have that in our 20s all the outside forces around you, you'd be lying if you're saying you're not influenced by them. So, it's the Instagram generation. We didn't necessarily have that in our 20s. You are, I don't give a fuck who you are. Everybody says they did not because it's the politically correct answer.
Starting point is 00:18:15 You are looking at people on Instagram and you are gauging your life against theirs. Now, some of these motherfuckers is lying too, so you shouldn't really use them as a good reference point,
Starting point is 00:18:24 but you are. As a man, you're looking at other men in lying too, so you shouldn't really use them as a good reference point. But you are. As a man, you're looking at other men in your age range and you're saying, damn, he's 40-something and he's a- And it doesn't have to be Instagram, by the way. It can be anything. But no, Instagram is in our face more than anything. Like, social media is in our face. So if you a 40-year-old man and you see other 40-year-old men that are progressing or ascending at a level higher than yours you use them as a gauge and i don't think that's wrong i think damn that's a motivator for me yeah you are a mature motherfucker joe you was a rapper you can't tell
Starting point is 00:18:56 me you didn't look at all the rappers in the field engage yourself against them you did whether you say you did or you didn't you did i could rap better than these 10 niggas but these niggas is more popular than me or these niggas got more money than me or these niggas are doing xyz and i'm not doing it of course you did you wouldn't be human does that mean he's not comfortable with himself like that's where i'm kind of absolute for the rap um analogy as a rapper like you said i know i rap better than you but I'm not seeing the rewards and I'm not seeing all of the accolades that these people are potentially getting that has to be troubling and I'm not a rapper that had
Starting point is 00:19:31 to trouble you in some way shape or form it'll put a chip on your shoulder issues right all right hey that's why I don't like having smart like seriously you don't think now I got around you for a long time. I gotta talk and think. I'm gonna use my real brain to fucking talk to this nigga, yo. Yo, I was sitting here catching a little Friday vibe. This is why I stopped using Clubhouse. You're going there to catch a vibe,
Starting point is 00:19:56 here comes some nigga, Joe in 97 as a rapper when the label's like, oh. But, Ish, you are right and you are wrong. You're right. When I came in, unknowingly, and Game kind of touched on some of this too. When I came in, you know, everybody comes in with different beliefs. Maybe now, today, when the kids get signed, they have a better understanding of what's going on in the real music industry than we did.
Starting point is 00:20:20 For sure. Like my son probably knows a little more than I did as a 20-year-old, right? Yeah, we didn't have social media. Again, like that's a valid place. Or dads that made it. Information period. Right, yeah. They just didn't have the information period.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Yeah. Yeah, right? So I came in thinking that shit was sweet, and it was not. We got the Donald Passman book, and that's the best we could do. So when I came in, yeah, you right. And that got me in a lot of trouble,
Starting point is 00:20:43 not knowing the functionality of things. So I came in saying, when I was trying, yeah, you right. And that got me in a lot of trouble not knowing the functionality of things. So I came in saying when I was trying to get an album out, Urban Legend had just popped off. No, I'm not even talking about from that perspective. I'm talking about you internally. Fuck the business side of music. But that's where I'm getting to. Okay. Looking at Urban Legend and looking at just some of the people that I was, Cassidy was coming out of Philly, just,
Starting point is 00:21:06 just some of the things that was going on as a rapper instinctually, the first thing you do is say, well, can you rap better than that person or not? Then it became, well, do you make better music than that person or not? And then as you keep going, if you're lucky enough, you get more information. And then you notice just how many cogs make this thing go. Like when they always talk about the difference between basketball and football they say football is 52 people versus 12 right i don't know the number but some somewhere around there um in music you have to learn that
Starting point is 00:21:39 it's probably a hundred people that got to do the dance in unison for it to go. So later in my career, I started to say, I started to, I started to say or think I could do what they could do with all they're given. But could they do what I could do without it? Without it. And they can't. Yeah. So it, it definitely, you having an internal battle now because you're looking at these people right and i've known you for a while so financially you might have been tapped out but i can run rings around this nigga right that gives you some internal
Starting point is 00:22:19 you got to reflect it do if you come from the 90s but then if you learn that the rapping is not how you get paid in the 90s but then if you learn that the rapping is not how you get paid in the music business indeed so then you have to get rid of the thought cause you won't succeed
Starting point is 00:22:31 if you keep that ton I had that point in my career I was just mad they think I'm mad now oh no you used to be way worse
Starting point is 00:22:38 way worse dog way worse I was dead ass before angry upset mad bitter resentful, hurt, disappointed.
Starting point is 00:22:49 All that. I had a stretch. It was just all of that. And I think I reeked of it. Today, I'm real happy. I'm sorry that y'all think I'm miserable this way. But yeah, I had to get out of that so I could see my full potential even. Which is now a more comfortable space for you but that's just
Starting point is 00:23:07 one aspect of your life that's just one aspect but all the yesterdays lead to today right so even so even earlier early when we was talking about uh some of the people that might have seen earlier success right actually i talk about all the time i just seen big joe and uh i just seen big joe and uh in the mall and all of these people are are fresh in my memory because of the kanye doc big face gary all these niggas whole old niggas right but that was the bet it was kludge assigned to rockefeller right skein was my anr he wasn't rockefeller but they was cool with rockefeller the bet was you got you got new act Joe Budden you got new act you else who gonna do what bet so some of the people that may have
Starting point is 00:23:50 seen earlier success their story was their story my story had to involve going tv going radio going public relationship going negative news clippings going black ball going like i picked it up from mad places i'm a swiss army knife in that regard like everybody's not so i'm thankful for it today but do i get there if i stay stuck in what you saying i don't think so what you mean what i'm saying like if i stay stuck in that. I rap better than you. I'm better. Yeah. But I don't have what I deserve.
Starting point is 00:24:29 You were forced to do that. Not true. I could have kept rapping. You're surviving. I went bald when I was still growing hair. Yo. I could rap when I retired. You could still grow hair.
Starting point is 00:24:39 We know that. What I'm saying is. I could rap when I retired. You could rap right now if you really tried. I understand what you're saying. No, really, nigga. i'll get up i will get right up and i can't what i'm saying is this you see the mic still hanging up you know i mean i can bring that right out you have to i was saying that's one area of life i just use that as uh you know what i'm saying so physically mentally emotionally financially you are always gauging yourself. I don't think somebody, most people,
Starting point is 00:25:07 some people might say it, and some people I think would just be lying because it's the cool thing to say. I think what does happen to a lot of people, at least I can speak for myself, is I got like 80%, 90% comfortable, and then it was just the extra shit. Yeah, the little things you wanted to improve,
Starting point is 00:25:21 but I took your initial statement, meaning I'm comfortable with who i am as a whole as a whole like all of it yeah me so to me i was that early in my life like i realized okay look you know people not gonna like certain shit so what oh yeah and it takes a lot of people don't get there too late okay no slow down slow down slow down let me jump in for a second here and that's what i meant about let's just not say what's at the surface listen to this true but at some point in life maybe you get to a place where you don't know so you're uncomfortable right like now you look real comfortable sitting in this chair for a long time you wouldn't have been comfortable sitting on no
Starting point is 00:26:12 fucking sitting in front of a fucking camera no absolutely not right so i mean sometimes you got to get comfortable through the discomfort yeah and i don't even think that that mean that you're not okay with yourself but nobody could be exposed to everything right correct it's always it's always like a work in progress with you any new you find something new you have to adapt to it either you can for me i'm gonna find i'm gonna find it stagnant but if you're comfortable and we could wrap this up but if you're comfortable right you're not really trying to improve upon certain shit because you're comfortable
Starting point is 00:26:48 in that space it's like if you damn I don't got a good analogy but when you find a wife you stop looking
Starting point is 00:26:57 you're comfortable there you're good you got your end all be all you stop looking and I think so you're better with the nails using that but i am i can't think of a good one that's on the fly but when you find don't go to the wolverine one either when you find a wife you just stop looking you're good you're
Starting point is 00:27:17 good there right but in in your work life or in your physical life or in your whatever you don't stop you still trying to do better so i'm with you are you really comfortable with who you are is what i'm saying are you really comfortable with who you are because i think when you get to a level of content that's a bad thing yeah like you 100 could be you could be self-sabotaging because you could be doing much better you could be destined to for greater shit but you don't know that it's almost like we're weightlifting though like it's early early on to like see a bunch of gains and then you get to like a plateau and then it gets harder and harder to push yourself even further because like you kind of maxed out your shit but you got to find a new way that kind of happens in life i think yeah i
Starting point is 00:27:59 agree that's a great example actually like there was a time where i wasn't so comfortable with uh my physical shape so i was going to the gym i was working on extra hard seeing niggas in there going hard and shit and you have to have the will and determination to do that um but what gets you there in the first place you not being comfortable with your current body type or with your current physique so you got to do something to change your perspective like i bought mad guns and stopped going to the gym but yeah i'm with you like that seems like a much easier route you niggas isn't here with these smoothies busting y'all asses i'm cool you know what man
Starting point is 00:28:41 i'll thug it out with this chest and this clock and i'm joking by the way but you just got to find the positive and shit like when i was young i used to feel a way about my finger right yes shit like that until i realized i could have not had a finger or could have not had a like yo once you learn about aging right not to be that guy and we'll get it off this so we could add some youth to this conversation but hey like when i broke my foot and i went to the foot guy and he was like no that's your foot now that would be the same your whole life is not healing the same nigga yo I'll be walking up them steps I'll be feeling my knee trying to do something
Starting point is 00:29:26 I feel it it don't do it cause I'm youthful still but I feel where you can see where this might go in 10, 15 I feel my knee
Starting point is 00:29:37 all you ever gotta do is all you gotta do to see the future is look at the past both my parents have had knee replacements both of them think pop a couple times and that's
Starting point is 00:29:48 why you can't do like women are the greatest thing in the world boy my dad went and got them shit and he was on his ass well he maybe didn't follow doctors well i don't remember but he was on his ass for a while my mom went and got them jizz was right back up two seconds running around my dad was mad what a hater um but anyway enough of this fucking mature shit y'all come up how do we even get here i started it i started it i started it all right come on drill music what's it doing to the community and what does it mean call eric adams no please don't any giving y'all every reason to not call him yo no mass no nothing just do go ahead you don't go ahead yo yeah yo here we go damn this is this is old
Starting point is 00:30:37 nigga shit too but and this is not to argue opinion because we all got opinions on vaccine and booster and COVID. And that's like religion now. We all got opinion, politics and religion. But in conspiracy theory world, you just say what if to a few things a lot. And I ain't going to say that somebody I know better get COVID or something soon. ain't gonna say that somebody I know better get COVID or something soon. But it does beg the question. For
Starting point is 00:31:11 at least two years, I could not avoid my network somebody having COVID. Facts. And it's gone. I know, because I've been tested. I've been rubbing my hand on all the doorknobs. I've been outside acting like Rudy Gobert.
Starting point is 00:31:33 That's fucked up, yo. Yeah, Rudy Gobert. Donovan Mitchell want to get away from him so bad, yo. He hates him. Why don't nobody talk about that? He hates Rudy Go gobert but anyway nobody has covid so in conspiracy theory brain it's because everyone had it last month though oh please oh please last month they did niggas was healthy as hell at uh out in the streets last
Starting point is 00:31:59 month everybody i knew had covid in january or December. Only in Elmira. No? In New York? In New York. I'm the cron shit. That shit ran through niggas in December. What? I hear you.
Starting point is 00:32:15 I got family that works in the medical field. So do I. In New York. City. Shut it up. Numbers as well? Shut it up. Stop it. Yeah, don't tell me about your family medical field shit
Starting point is 00:32:26 my nigga is in all these hospitals it's you can get in there you can get a bed you could you can get two if you pay and we got the room with the TV available
Starting point is 00:32:37 if you want that one man proceed what are you talking about but anyway it just begs the question or makes you think you know that's pretty ill
Starting point is 00:32:50 that they could just dump some shit in there make all the money and then suck it right out that is amazing I think that deserves a round of applause that scam doc
Starting point is 00:33:01 gonna be crazy it won't come out for another 20 minutes the pandemic it's the pandemic that scam doc gonna be crazy it won't come out for another 20 the pandemic the pandemic I'd be knowing not to believe some of this shit
Starting point is 00:33:12 that's like when they tried to give me the role with SARS what was the other one that came in the mail SARS anthrax what is anthrax yo where did it go? Don't open your mail, it's powder in there.
Starting point is 00:33:27 It's not mail, nigga. Jeff Bezos said great. They just make you scared and then you react. And they make a check. And they make a check. Bro, it's just crazy. If you really think about this shit though
Starting point is 00:33:46 fam hurricane coming if you just wait if like like niggas that just waited and say I don't know they put some shit out there to kill niggas yo yo
Starting point is 00:33:55 I don't want to get us canceled but I'm starting to think think what who you thinking like like y'all. Oh, I was just asking.
Starting point is 00:34:07 No, no, no, no, yeah. Because at first I was like, all right, at least what's going to happen is you're going to have to show proof of vaccination everywhere.
Starting point is 00:34:14 I just got an email saying, yo, if you come into the game, you don't need proof of nothing no more, no mask or nothing. So I'm like, so if you telling me about it, I've been in catch a day for a week.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Shit was all good. I've been in catch a take every day this week. What's up, Joe? What's good? What's good, son? Nice coat. Thanks. I see niggas dapping each other up again.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I'm like, where the dap is at? A few of these strange niggas tried to dap hug me. Had to push that nigga out. Get away. Huff me. And I almost beat some little poor kid up at the car wash the other day. He tried to get you to clean his room. I know.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I know. on the floor with a chick he's crystal chicken about to make your own you are stupid that's fucked up that's fucked up oh man oh man that ain't right no I know I knew that we was getting this
Starting point is 00:35:17 if we dressed like the South Beach I know what I know what time it is no it's just paranoia. So you walk by, you got a long coat on and a mask. Your hands is in your pocket, funny. And now as soon as you walk by, you looking like you getting something out your pocket.
Starting point is 00:35:34 No, not today with me. I don't care where we at. No, you're right. I'm checking it all. Granted, it was just a phone, but so. The news fucks me up, man. I got to stop watching the news. That's the hood.
Starting point is 00:35:45 No, no, no. Get it. That ain't no news. Nigga, that's your 15, 16-year-old instincts coming up. Yo, you know what sucks about New Jersey? Can't carry a gun. Legally. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I was getting ready. Fuck, is he talking about me? Soldier out 20 miles per hour he ain't never getting no this was something about New Jersey and this is silly but not to me
Starting point is 00:36:12 we don't get New York 1 New York 1 is the best channel in the world why the fuck we want New York 1 dog that's the best channel in the world yo New York 1
Starting point is 00:36:23 we got News 12 nah News 12 be popular News 12. Nah. News 12 be popular. News 12 is the shit, bro. You watch it or you don't? I've watched it. Have you ever seen New York 1?
Starting point is 00:36:35 No. Okay. I can't compare it. I don't know. Yo, y'all niggas, boy. I can't compare it. Nah, y'all ain't never spent the night at a girl's
Starting point is 00:36:44 house in New York. Okay. That's probably what it is. Okay. Maybe never happened. I don't know. Come on, let's talk music. Let's talk music.
Starting point is 00:36:53 All right, yeah. New music has dropped. King Von album. I ain't listen to it. What it means to be king. I actually like the album. I did not like- I'm scared of posthumous-
Starting point is 00:37:04 I was as well especially after the single they dropped which was the uh don't play that with 21 savage love that song i hated that record love that song it does not sound like a vaughn record to me so so i would it's a it's fucking vaughn that's what i want to hear i don't want to hear it tailored to 21 see fans make you become slaves to them. So he can't try a different sound, do another record? Sure you can.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Not as the first single off the album. No. But why? What if I did it and I thought it worked and I want money behind it so people can hear it?
Starting point is 00:37:35 It's different. Kanye said that. He was talking about Yeah, fans are horrible. Why he thinks what's the Twisted Fantasy? I don't know the title.
Starting point is 00:37:44 My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. He said he hates that. He was like because he was basically horrible why he thinks what's the twisted fantasy i don't know the title my beautiful dark twisted fantasy he said he hates that he was like because he was basically trying to please everybody else instead of pushing the envelope i mean pushing the bar he was trying to please everybody with shit that worked before so like you're saying like it worked please i was pleased no no i'm mad everybody said he said yo that's an artist because you know he want to do some weird shit that's a little different he was like 808 and um and the other one jesus was better to him way better he said he don't like the dark twisted fantasy i love
Starting point is 00:38:16 that album well it's a great album but the fans look you try to at least thanks for doing that for us guys i'm sorry that you gotta dislike it but you know what but you say like you say shit like that and just to like boost up your own shit yo that classic I did that wasn't even
Starting point is 00:38:31 really the fire oh let me go back to listen to but Ice is saying yo that's not the Vaughn that I've grown
Starting point is 00:38:38 and we talking about we talking about cause Ice is one of them niggas he won't let his favorite artist grow that's not true the only thing that gets weird for me
Starting point is 00:38:47 is when it's a posthumous album it's like did he actually make this record get thrown together wait hold on what artist favorite artist of yours did you allow to grow
Starting point is 00:38:55 I like Jeezy's last album oh nigga stop it I knew I was going to use Jeezy I was going to use Jeezy you can't use Jeezy when I praise his last album no you can't
Starting point is 00:39:04 no you cannot there was a period where Jeezy again. I was going to use Jeezy again, too. You can't use Jeezy again when I praise his last album. No, you can't. No, you cannot. There was a period where Jeezy was trying to grow, and you were killing him for it. It was terrible. It wasn't just me. There was a time where you— I'm not bad at the try. The try don't always work, though. And when it don't work, yo, my nigga, you falling off.
Starting point is 00:39:23 You trying too much. If you keep trying to grow— Dogezy went out there to la and you started doing the mustard beats it was not your sound it wasn't you you were trying to be somebody else it didn't work wasn't just for me there's a reason why none of them projects was received well. Or was he growing into someone else? And the people that wanted that old sound. Every artist says it. Drake says it. Say we missed that old Drake.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Jay-Z be like, yo, people saying I'm old. Like, yeah. So I think just with any artist, as life changes, you grow and you try to. Okay. Sometimes it grows bad. I'm not going to lie. You know what happens though? Sometimes it grows bad.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I believe that. Yeah. It grows bad. It's crooked. Because you know what happens though i'm not gonna lie you know what happens though sometimes it grows bad i believe yeah it grows bad because you know what happens them same artists you'll then see trying to go back and recreate the old sound so obviously the growth they try they acknowledge it oh okay your shit didn't work let me stick to the formula that i know work and a lot of artists do that that's a lot of stuff so that means that the growth they acknowledging that the growth didn't work if you're trying to run back to the old sound. A lot of stuff that'd be quote unquote growth is not, it's people trying to catch one. You know what I'm saying? Like excluding Kanye. Sound changes
Starting point is 00:40:34 and you're trying to catch this current sound. And Kendrick does some different stuff, but a lot of people just try to get more poppy, essentially. Or not only that. Or whatever the hot sound is right now. That's not necessarily growth, that's just chasing what's hot. now. That's not necessarily growth. That's just chasing what's hot. That doesn't mean growth.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Correct. Like, we go to Jeezy. Jeezy is on his last project, Recession 2, was literally rapping about where he is now. It wasn't the coke talk. It wasn't all of that. See, y'all keep talking music. And y'all Jeezy fans killed that nigga for wearing nice shoes. I was there for that part.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Where he was just trying to grow as a man and look. Wearing nice shoes? Yes. Y'all tore his ass up for some of them boots. Them nice YSL boots and shit he was wearing when he tried to get a little. He was just changing his look. And y'all killed him for it. Fuck music.
Starting point is 00:41:24 I don't remember killing Jeezy over shoes. You was the main one. Over some shoes, dog. You said, yeah, old Jeezy would never wear these. No, I said that about YG, not Jeezy. You said that about Jeezy, too. Pull it up. Fam, I'm doing a podcast.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Them niggas back there could do whatever they doing, but. But anyway, like I said, I'm not mad at an artist growing if if the growth turns out to be good growth now we talk about a posthumous album that's different the artist ain't even here anymore yo ice listen to the sentence you just said and then i'm not staying on this good i'm not mad at the artist growing trying to grow good growth that just sound like some selfish self what's who determines good growth you hey joe this out. I'm spending my money as a fan. If I don't like it, I don't like it. See?
Starting point is 00:42:08 I don't have to like it. I'm still supporting. I still bought every one of them projects because I'm a fan. I want to see you win. But if the music ain't good, it ain't good. Nah, if you buying my shit just to support, then support without kicking my back in after your purchase because you didn't like what was displayed. Oh, no, I speak on what I spent my money on. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Then that ain't support. No, it is support. It's constructive criticism. As a biggest fan, I can do that. He's appreciated that. I've had conversations with Jeezy. He's a Jeezy fan. So.
Starting point is 00:42:40 No, he knows Jeezy. Yeah, I know. I'm just saying. That's a little different. I'm talking about fans. Good one. True. Yeah, I got him.
Starting point is 00:42:52 It's a muffin? It's a little mini muffin. No. I'm only talking about mini. I don't give a fuck about the rest of the minis. You know the little cold muffins? Nah. The little bites?
Starting point is 00:43:01 Yeah, it is. I got it. Them shits is good. Them shits are so good. I be fucking her snacks up. I be feeling bad. I eat all X little snacks and chips. Only come four in a bag.
Starting point is 00:43:10 All that shit. I went and got it. Little Capri Sun's got something for me, too. I know I'm going to drink these shits. I ain't mad at you. Push. Wait, did you finish with Bond? No, no, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:43:22 I don't have, I'm not speaking on Bond. I ain't listening to it. I listened't have, I'm not speaking on Vaughn. I didn't listen to it. I listened to it. I'm pleased with it. And I want to shout out his team, Chop Squad DJ, a lot of those dudes, because they made it sound like Vaughn. And I was worried. You know, we saw it happen with the first Pop Smoke Possumous album. It was great.
Starting point is 00:43:41 And the second one didn't sound as good. So I was very happy to see like okay y'all were able to capture the sound y'all didn't go grab a thousand features on every record it's a couple features on here but they made sense and the records it's a good project i i think a lot of this just from what i'm getting feels like a lot of this was done and it wasn't like just pasting a bunch of verses around gotcha so i'm not mad at this project at all. Okay. Well, hopefully all Vaughn fans feel the same.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Rest in peace, Vaughn. I heard it, but yeah, I'm chilling. Shut up screaming. Push drop. Yeah, push drop. I think it's the snippet that I played on here before. Okay. And I don't know if this is
Starting point is 00:44:25 From his album Cause it's with Nego Who I think is in fashion Nego's album apparently Okay Had me right here Yeah Oh my
Starting point is 00:44:34 Oh my god He's gonna buy it He's gonna buy it Creepy He's gonna buy it These drug dealer rollies is my TikTok and Triller Insecure bitches get lip fillers Covered in white like Bridezilla And never been caught So what's the shiggy dance for a brick nigga?
Starting point is 00:44:51 Extracurricular Art buyer, 812, Rari driver Spent six just to make the roof Harry Potter Kilogram Kickstarter, push a brick harder Left my elbow in the pot a la Vince Carter Compared to two martyrss but I'm chasing over he makes a great point y'all you know you're trying to stay out of
Starting point is 00:45:12 women's business but y'all are going crazy with the lip fillers like it's getting out of hand I was about to bring it back I was going to bring it back to when women be like yo I'm comfortable in my skin and you go do that you stretch your skin It's getting better. No, I was going to bring it back to when women be like, yo, I'm comfortable in my skin. No, you're not. And you go do that. You stretch your skin.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Like, yo, dogs. It's cool, though. Keep moving. Ricker Zard. Amazing. This guy, man. Yeah, pushes him. And he did one of them late shows.
Starting point is 00:45:44 He did Colbert, yeah. One of them late shows he did Colbert one of them late shows ain't saying nobody's name come on he did one of them late shows that's not the that's not the ops everybody ops
Starting point is 00:45:59 everybody ops that's my shit too go ahead yeah I like that shit too they had the snow falling all on them I'm pretty sure that's not what too go ahead yeah I like that shit I think I had the snow falling all on him I'm pretty sure that's not what they thought
Starting point is 00:46:08 when they heard Diet Coke yo Bush is a great man good old cocaine propaganda right on CBS I love it yo is he dancing in Coke yes
Starting point is 00:46:19 it's snow Joe it's snow it's a metaphor and he's doing this on a late show with Stephen Colbert that's what made this amazing to me
Starting point is 00:46:31 I love it yeah I love this make him uncomfortable oh my Jesus that's funny I like a lot of funny what is happening in hip hop yo
Starting point is 00:46:39 they make it harder and harder to cover hip hop I'm telling you it's tough why I like this yeah i love that that's easy to cover that's dope it's why i didn't have nothing to say about the project right like like i see all these blog sites and shit like posting about shit they shouldn't be posting about but they post it because people care about it. Yeah. And it gets clicks.
Starting point is 00:47:06 It gets clicks. But these niggas is living in this shit, yo. Here you are on the side on your phone just posting some shit. I be feeling like we complicit in it. Absolutely. So I feel weird covering it. And then I heard Dame Dash on Shannon Sharp shannon sharp yo alex yo al yo i heard uh i heard uh dame dash on shannon sharp's podcast or his show
Starting point is 00:47:34 and he suggested shannon asked him what could we do to kind of get a hold on some of the killings and blah blah blah and he was like yo we uh YouTube and some of these places should stop paying on songs where you are dissing the op or talking about killing somebody. Because then you are incentivized differently. And I stopped and thought about it. I'm like, he may be on to something. That slippery slope shit, though. Very slippery. I know it is, but you have to start the conversation somewhere and you have to throw an idea in the pot.
Starting point is 00:48:08 True. We're not saying the first thing that is said is correct. Right. But that's going to take a lot of brain power to come up with what the solution is. And Dane, always innovative, always ahead of the curve. Amazing. One of the brains you want in the room to try to figure it out, I say. Not saying that what you say at first is what you land on.
Starting point is 00:48:26 But I think that's what that conversation is. One that many people should be having. How do we get a grip on it? Cause the label's not going to have it. They can pay it off. And not only that, you get, you see everybody saying,
Starting point is 00:48:36 yo, we got to stop this. We got to stop this. Like at least he presented some form of potential. Yeah. Like they always say, don't, don't confront a problem without a solution.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Right. So even if, like you said, even if it's not the right solution at least we gotta start in the conversation so i'm not mad at that at all i be feeling bad myself i'm gonna keep it a buck i champion a lot of that shit yeah don't say i champion a lot of that but like i sit back and be like god damn like nigg is really straight up dying i just think it's a slippery slope with censorship with um you champion it from your home but in championing yeah but still at it's still the blog i understand it is very complicit it is complicit but champ that's kind of why it's uncomfortable for me
Starting point is 00:49:25 because championing it i'm not gonna fall iH4 because i love a lot of these records too championing it from my comfortable home versus the actual participants and what they're going through is just different. And I think that the people that champion it from wherever we at may not necessarily look at it from that lens. And I do. So it feels weird to cover some of it. See, I used to look at it like, you know, this is their story. It is.
Starting point is 00:50:03 You know what I'm saying? And this is your outlet. You're choosing to get your story out this way who am I to tell you indeed you wrong same argument with NWA exactly
Starting point is 00:50:11 I'll go back to the 90's drug dealer raps that everybody loved like that's they lived it if anything I gotta respect it because you really lived it
Starting point is 00:50:20 that's why I always tell y'all like I like authenticity in my rap because at least this is your story you're not telling me somebody else shit and you just profiting off of it that's why i always tell y'all like i like authenticity in my rap because at least this is your story you're not telling me somebody else shit and you just profiting off of it this is shit you've been through you was really in the shootout with the ops she was really doing this she was really you know i know but what does the word mainstream mean i'm agreeing with ice
Starting point is 00:50:38 which you know me i stand on total different sides of this argument oftentimes. I'm agreeing with everything you're saying. This is somebody's real life. This is what I did. I'm a poet. I took what I lived. I put it on a piece of paper and I'm selling it. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Cool. The act of me selling it now takes my parents, my family, and hopefully all of my lineage away from this. So you can't stop somebody from doing that. But also, when they start mentioning real life people that got killed and you rubbing it in the family's faces and all of that shit, I think a line is drawn there. And that was my problem. I think a line is drawn there. Because I think that's the, I think on Don't Play on Vaughn's album,
Starting point is 00:51:27 think that's the uh i think that on don't play on bond's album i'm listening to a young deceased brother talk about uh she asking me what is tuka i tell her no worry we smoke it like i i no no i can't i can't i can't i can't i don't even if it's even if it's going crazy i like that song a lot i like that song i like that song yeah so that's like that song a lot. Yeah, you like that song. I like that song. Yeah. So that's when I think. But I can't turn my brain off. Because we all do. I ain't just listening to a beat. I'm listening to someone who is not here, who died from something that could have been avoided. And not for nothing, even away from violence, I feel the same way with Juice WRLD.
Starting point is 00:51:58 It's hard for me to listen to Juice WRLD. I just think that's where you kind of. And it's a great area cause again we all Jay Z fiends in here and Jay like yo yeah but I'm a
Starting point is 00:52:10 I'm a fan of a lot of these niggas like Kanye got Triple X on his album Triple X is tough to listen to and that was one of my favorites but then all the niggas
Starting point is 00:52:18 that take be one of my favorites I say that a lot but Triple X it's tough to listen to somebody so young who's not here when their music is saying same with juice world all of this mental health what they're going through depression shit huh joey badass put out a song talking about x and steve's was pretty dope yesterday too or today i need to hear it yeah x was amazing man triple x triple x was different in mindset and music. But anyway.
Starting point is 00:52:45 The other thing that's getting me is feeling like a lot of artists that passed kind of have verses or songs pretty much saying, like, I'm not going. I'm killing these people. I'm not going to be the one to die. It's like
Starting point is 00:53:01 it's coming right back around. And that gets a little hard to listen to. Like, rest in peace, Nip. in these people i'm not gonna be the one to die it's like it it's coming right back around and that gets a little hard to listen to like rest in peace nip record racks in the middle comes out and second verse goes under no condition will you ever catch me slipping i can't listen to that see but that's why i asked what is mainstream right because i don't want to sit here and sound like i don't have any understanding of this culture and what's going on. I do. My issue is not, well, some of it lie there.
Starting point is 00:53:30 But my issue is everything ain't supposed to be mainstream. These little kids in Idaho and Kansas shouldn't know about all of the fucking new offspring sets over here in Brooklyn, in the Bronx. Now they conditioned to not even like a song if you're not claiming a set and they don't know your story and your history. Who the fuck are y'all? They take a liking to hip-hop. And this has been since the beginning of time.
Starting point is 00:53:57 This ain't a white, black thing. Fucking James Dean was the bad boy. You telling me today, hold up real quick. You telling me today conditioned to hip- quick. You telling me today conditioning hip hop don't do nothing for me because this is new in hip hop. I know, but so is the internet.
Starting point is 00:54:08 I was just watching. It ain't new in hip hop. It's not new in hip hop. Niggas, East Coast, West Coast, rivalry, Tupac,
Starting point is 00:54:13 Biggie. Niggas was saying fuck Cali and all that shit. Niggas been talking about killing people in raps too. What I'm saying is this. You saying mainstream. Once it becomes profitable
Starting point is 00:54:21 on a higher level and once the popularity grows, you can't stop it from going mainstream. You can't subject it to this audience. The white boys in Idaho going to hear it once it transcends these particular states and the popularity grows. You get what I'm saying? Like the popularity going to grow. You can't keep it out of certain.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And it ain't even just a killing shit. It's just anybody like an artist. Drake fans at your house. Wait a second. don't... Drake fans was at your house. Wait a second. Ain't no murder involved. Wait a second, because y'all sound like y'all making amazing points, and fuck all this shit y'all talking about. There's 100% a way for your music to be mainstream and your culture to not be.
Starting point is 00:55:00 That can happen. Wait, let me just finish my point. You know how many rappers we met back in the day and i can name some where you just met them and was familiar with their music it wasn't until you met them and seeing who they was with how they was moving that you were like oh oh these real niggas something else going on keywords you said there joe back in the day it wasn't the internet all that internet social media no no no no no no no no no i'm not gonna let y'all fucking do that i'm not letting y'all do that hold up for a second there are people
Starting point is 00:55:31 today that are of a certain ilk facts that the fans don't necessarily know that because they from back in the day no no no no no no no they're not pushing it they're not promoting they just move in a certain way. Yo, case in point. And I ain't even, I'm not even bringing this up. No, don't bring it up. Don't say no names. I know exactly.
Starting point is 00:55:51 I know a list of young rappers. I'm going to agree with you. But some of those other artists have other shit to talk about, possibly. That's one. And then number two, once this shit became profitable, why the fuck not? Once we profited off of the killings, the death, and I'm a real nigga and I can promote being a real nigga and it's going to turn into some money because people could see or go back and hear how real of a nigga I am. The money talks, Joe. The money talks.
Starting point is 00:56:23 The money's been talking. Let me fight with him. No, but if you can turn a profit without bringing up the nigga shit, you could do that. These boys is turning a profit from bringing up the nigga shit. They 20 years old. This is all they know. All they know. They don't know nothing else to rap about that's going to be profitable.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Which is why I won't counter your point. Some of the niggas you talking about older. I won't counter your point because I can't right now because for me, this is a very young movement. So when you say these niggas is getting money, well, yeah, it's relative. That's relative. I'll wait till the masterpiece of drill is born. I'll wait till the puff of drill is born. I'll wait.
Starting point is 00:57:06 You know all the fucking names when that person emerges then your shit will be solidified written in stone but for now i'm seeing a whole lot more deaths than masterpiece indeed and and that it just is ugly it's terrible now what i will, I'm watching Fabio closely. I'm watching him extra, extra, extra closely because he appears to be trying to do exactly what we're saying. It looks like that. The music sounds like that and how he moves, even the altercations that I've heard about, they ain't public. They ain't public. They ain't public. Been a couple stories from girls that been
Starting point is 00:57:48 to the Fabio show. They not public. He won't make it public. The label's putting them with all the big people. They making the music sound big. And in doing that, you gotta protect them.
Starting point is 00:57:59 He can't move a certain way. They not just stop. Hey, I bump into him every week. He's not just stopping traffic on the Major Deegan anymore. So that's why i'm watching him i agree with you but also it's regional we have to move different here legally we gotta move different here them niggas down there and over there they doing other shit the problem i agree with you. And you made that point. To move different here, to know how to move different here means to know how to move different there.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Like, you have to know how to do it. They don't gotta. They don't have to. Out there? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I just think that when you put a dollar behind some shit, and again, the dude you talking about that's moving differently and that's really about it, they a little older.
Starting point is 00:58:50 That's what I meant when I said from back in the day. These kids is 20, Joe. They were born from that era. They don't have much to rap about. Their experience is probably coming to 12 block radius. They don't even know a life outside of social media. I keep bringing that up because a lot of this shit stemming from there. Even you go back
Starting point is 00:59:06 and look up old Vaughn shit. They was beefing with each other on the internet. You talk about your brothers with the headset on beefing with somebody with the headset on and they're running outside.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Like, these kids, it's a little different now. Mm. I can believe that. It ain't what we had. So now everything is broadcast one way or another. Their entire lives are being broadcast.
Starting point is 00:59:27 For complete strangers to see. Now, if your life is being broadcast and you're making some money off of it, and I watched it. I just know. Oh shit, I'm doing the same shit over here in my hood. Guess what? We going up too. That's awesome. I don't think that your image necessarily needs to be your culture.
Starting point is 00:59:47 In a game that revolves around smoke and mirrors they don't know that we didn't we don't we don't know that they don't know that though you saying that at 41 no I like oh I like oh I'm shut the fuck up no yeah you saying that at 41 mature brain shit we just saw I don't know if y'all all watched it but the the game drink champs he said they asked him about the whole him and 50 shit
Starting point is 01:00:10 he said yo it's because I thought this was all real I didn't realize it was smoke and mirrors yeah that's what I was saying so yeah these niggas are still
Starting point is 01:00:19 thinking this is real and it is real for them because they actually dying alright come on we can stop the lecture it's a weekend you want to hear the old heads tell you how to do it yeah yeah yeah cause I don't want to sound like And it is real for them because they actually dying. All right, come on. We can stop the lecture. It's a weekend. You want to hear the old heads tell you how to do it?
Starting point is 01:00:28 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I don't want to sound like that. And I hate sounding like that because I remember me at 21, 22, 23, 24.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Like I remember 16, 17. I remember like, shut up, Joe button. Like, honestly, we just going to talk about all the stupid shit that niggas was doing
Starting point is 01:00:47 like come on man who are you now to grow up and tell somebody else not to have the same experience that you did you weren't killing each other no no no
Starting point is 01:00:54 not at all yeah but you get but you get you got into action where that potential was there it was there you know what I'm that potential was there It ain't the same in this world, but I'm still here Yo, let's go get a hundred niggas together and go over to this block over here
Starting point is 01:01:11 Gotta be strong as I can, out of all these fears This is amazing Being stuck in these chains for so many years But I gotta play the game cause I'm holding all of these tears Hot summers with cold winters Empty stomachs with no dinners Fast losers and slow winners Real niggas, no hope in us
Starting point is 01:01:37 Never pro tenders, all authentic, my nigga I know the struggle and very well They say life ain't no fairy tale And real music barely sells My little homie this may bell. I heard that earth's a strange hell as a reason I can't tell vision clouded wise route it nothing new about it. Yeah This sounds this sounds so this beautiful this is beautiful That's how I know I'm becoming the old nigga.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Because when shit like this come on, one of my first thoughts is, I could listen to this beat alone. I wish I could listen to just this music. You can't listen to the noise. These young kids rapping with this shit. Nah, this beat is beautiful, yo. It is. Listen to this beat.
Starting point is 01:02:19 It could just rock. Nah, they did this. And Moray's tone is so fire. Yeah. Moray is the L's. Yeah, fat niggas don't lose their tone. They don't. This shit's dope.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Nah, it's great. You have to cut it off now. My bad. But yeah, no. That was great. Look, Cordae gave him a little dance. Yo, when your girl is worth billions, yo, she can just wake up dancing.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Just dance. It just calms the confidence. That's it. It oozes out of you. That must be nice to just wake up and dance sometimes. One last time, y'all. Just let your body move freely. Not you-ish. On the wake up
Starting point is 01:03:05 not you I said not you yo not you no ever for you you let your body move freely before you dance like feeling good
Starting point is 01:03:13 about rhythm and shit like what what the drums was doing the chakras the chakras swung on your brain yo this guy's a nut uh what else came out
Starting point is 01:03:22 Ish I wanted you to get yo you that's what we were supposed to start with You was on Park's ass about his backpack card Oh, I missed that Nah, Ish was on Park's ass Wait, inform me What'd I miss?
Starting point is 01:03:36 The Cool Kids came out I was playing the album when he came in I didn't want to say the joke The dude's name Well, now I stand behind it That shit is hard You done pissed Parks off. Nah.
Starting point is 01:03:47 That bitch ain't no vegan, man. That bitch was eating turkey. They text me on my birthday. That bitch damn near hurt me. I was all on my rapper shit. Phones in the trap of the week. We're all speaking Japanese. Handing me my car keys.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Dance, you wanna hit me. Like Jim Jones, G up. Get phones and re-up. Boy, you ought to tee up. It's a whole lot of stories and lies I could predict. See, I'm damn near a psychic when it come to this shit. I was mine of my own. Business drinking white wine.
Starting point is 01:04:12 I get a text. Say, nigga, I'm outside. I get a fit. I got a flat. And then she proceeded to tell me how trash it all was. Yo, you know he gonna go to the slap, right? He go right to the slap with the banging track. The shit just come on.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Bitch ain't no vegan. She was eating turkey. He go to the slap. He go right to the slap. Look. Throw a dollar in the cup. Look. He go right.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Pay up. Pay up. I see what Ish is saying. Come on. Present your argument for the viewing. And for me, because I didn't hear this argument. Parks was jamming the cool kids. OK. I tried to me, because I didn't hear this argument. Parks was jamming the cool kids.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Okay. I tried to outman. I wasn't particularly jamming. He just had it planned. I wasn't playing the slack soffit, you know what I'm saying? But you just did.
Starting point is 01:04:54 And Ish was being the old guy at the party and he said, hey, you like that? You like that? These jokers? You like these jokers? Then he proceeded to say
Starting point is 01:05:05 if he sat down and tried really hard he could do that too I don't even know if it's really but I don't care about what he said about I'm just saying
Starting point is 01:05:14 you do it without even trying but I don't even care what he was talking about with this album he what he said to Parks was both of these niggas
Starting point is 01:05:22 what was that anytime it's an underground artist Parks just gonna champion it it don't matter that's not true I'm selective about my underground artists
Starting point is 01:05:32 maybe I'm selective about my shit I'm selective the last time I heard Parks say he didn't like something that was underground that's what I was trying to think of I don't know I'm not gonna shit on
Starting point is 01:05:41 no one that's fucking I wouldn't shit on that's why I didn't even want to say their names so you do have an underground bias I guess I don't try I Because I'm not going to shit on no one that's fucking underground. I wouldn't shit on no one. That's why I didn't even want to say their names. So you do have an underground bias. I guess. I try not to shit on mainstream rappers. I don't try to shit on nobody's shit.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Me neither. Shut up, Ive. Shut your ass up. Pride, man. Damn. Everybody out. Music business is hard. I'm not trying to shit on nobody.
Starting point is 01:06:01 I wasn't trying to even say these niggas' names. Could we edit it out? Yeah, we could edit it out. i mean i played the song too late now no but that that song was dope it wasn't that song that was playing it was some other shit that i wasn't really and take shitting on niggas out of hip-hop you know i wasn't really feeling the other shit he's sensitive as rappers today yes you can so but um nah parks definitely is the i agree that's park's selective with my underground champion. No question. I agree. That's Parks' guy. I'm selective with my underground champion.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Just like y'all say, I like the young... What'd you say? Nah, but I like Ish's point about Parks being thirsty to take the train, though. Like, walk right past the car and drive. I like that point that Ish was making. And don't let him back you up. I think you might... Y'all might have him, yo.
Starting point is 01:06:42 I think I'm right. I think I'm right. Y'all might have him. He don't got me. Like, even with Ice, all you gotta do is shoot a nigga in the head. He with it. Let's dance. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Yeah. Nigga get pop. Y'all make it sound good, though. Yeah, that thing too little bad. They nasty, yo, now that you think about it. Y'all make it pop from crosstown. Oh, we're going to do the R&B versus rap beat? Nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Because all it got to be is a little underwater fucking synthesizer. And an 808 drum. And y'all fucking sucking wet. Not y'all. That's y'all. Y'all just fucking sucking wet. Look how'all y'all just supposed to suck it wet look how fast it got you to go against me
Starting point is 01:07:08 wow yo no no no the rise and fall of the Joe Budden podcast that was born after the rise and fall of the old whatever
Starting point is 01:07:15 oh man man rises and falls rollercoaster it's fucked up man why am I always rising and falling man anyway
Starting point is 01:07:25 stupid I'm with you on your parks point though I'm with you we'll let him live today but nah somebody
Starting point is 01:07:33 cracked him in the comments good yo y'all gotta take the sleeper segment away from parks and ice they go crazy yo and there be bad people
Starting point is 01:07:43 cracking y'all in my notes that last sleeper was fire y'all be part of that sleepy shit all day y'all be part of that shit They go crazy, yo. And there be bad people cracking your old mother's shit. I was just about to say that. I had people saying, yo, that last sleeper was fire. Y'all be playing that sleepy shit all day. I don't want to hear that shit. Sleepy shit. That bullshit out of here, man.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Sleepy shit. I'll be playing that fucking, I want to take a nap music. Have a nice pink glass of wine next to the bed. Sound like some shit I hear in a fucking elevator, man. Get that shit out of here. Oh, man. Some pinot. Fuck out of here.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Some pinot. I got a theory about you niggas. Y'all don't know that we here. Let's hear it Some peanut. Fuck out of here. Some peanut. I got a theory about you niggas, y'all, though, now that we here. Let's hear it. I'm on a hit. What's up? I just love all that shoot-em-up, bang-bang shit, because he was stuffed in his room as a fucking little kid witnessing none of it, right?
Starting point is 01:08:14 And you might be fucking extra underground, even though your lifestyle probably is more Jhene Aiko. So? Yes. So y'all living it through y'all? So y'all living the contrast. And so do I. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Because I really was there, did it, been around some of that shit. I want all the peaceful music, yo. I want the shit with the chimes and the flutes. I don't want to hear niggas talking about the shit that I know what it was like
Starting point is 01:08:43 to kind of beat in some of that shit at 41 years old. So that's cool for y'all. I don't listen to much shoot em shoot em by the way. I listen to all the shoot em shoot em. You don't listen to shoot em shoot em. You just listen to eccentric different types of music. I don't want to hear the same fucking drum patterns
Starting point is 01:09:00 and sounds. And I do listen to all the shit. I like R&B too. For the sake of this argument. But and in this argument like I gotta go I gotta do I gotta do something
Starting point is 01:09:12 to throw that shit on. I gotta That shit is not for me all the time. I gotta get in the car. That's all I gotta do to throw that shit on. Or the gym.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Or I ain't going to the gym. Sorry. This nigga said he cuts that shit on at 7 o'clock in the morning. Fam I had an Ardo Wick album playing at 7.15. I don't even to DJ sorry this nigga said he cuts that shit on at 7 o'clock in the morning fam I had an Ardo Wick album playing at 7.15
Starting point is 01:09:27 I don't even know who that is you know it when you hear it maybe I don't want to hear no bang bang shoot em up
Starting point is 01:09:33 loud shit like bruh get me going that shit fuck my brain I don't want to hear no soft shit in the morning at all damn sure
Starting point is 01:09:41 I'll go right back to bed that shit giving you niggas CTE I don't even know they don't even know. They don't even know it. R-T-E. Rapper T-E.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Whatever it is. Whatever the fuck. Yo, that's funny. Look at what Ice put on. Look at the music Ice put on. Go throw his Uggs on and take a drive. Exactly. You niggas are crazy, yo.
Starting point is 01:10:03 I ain't living it. Psycho. Enjoy it. It's no different than watching a crazy, yo. I ain't living it. Psycho, psycho. Enjoy it. It's no different than watching a movie for me. I love action flicks. That don't mean I'm out there trying to run and do the shit. I don't even want to watch them all the time. I got to be in the mood for that. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:14 I like action flicks. You know what I'm saying? I got to be in the mood for certain movies. It could be some shit I want to see, but I just might not be in the mood. I could watch a good... Oh, y'all always made me say something bad. So don't get us canceled, y'all. I don't give a fuck if some of them are in real life.
Starting point is 01:10:35 I have no personal connection to the nigga that bodied the fucking action movie. I have no connection to that guy. Some of these young rappers who probably would never get a role in fucking Hollywood in some of these films because y'all are young. On this side, the rules is even different.
Starting point is 01:10:56 So yeah, I do feel a connection if a nigga's talking this shit and then the next week he's dead or none of his mans is dead. Not just that, because they come from where we come from and I don't want to see no young black kids
Starting point is 01:11:06 getting killed. Or now his whole life got a fucking death. But see, the reason why I can't just write them off for that because without the music, they still doing it.
Starting point is 01:11:13 They still out there. They was killing each other before they was rapping. That's just became they outlet. That's true. This shit ain't start because he went to the booth.
Starting point is 01:11:22 No, no. Yeah. What? It's the weekend and I'm getting the fuck off of this. But it's not just the music. It's way heavier than just the music. Because now who make the better music to bring in the better financing to have bigger backing when I bring it back here? It's not just music, yo. Fam, what I'm telling you is the music came after that.
Starting point is 01:11:43 They was doing this shit prior to music. That's totally different than sending out a frequency to the world. Fan, what I'm telling you is the music came after that. They was doing this shit prior to music. That's totally different than sending out a frequency to the world. I'm not talking about what you niggas do in your spare time in the project. You know how much shit I did in the projects? Just bored. I ain't talking about that. I'm talking about once you start putting frequency and energy into the world to millions and millions and millions and millions of children younger than you that might especially when the trend now is and i don't know correct me if i'm
Starting point is 01:12:10 wrong i don't even like talking this gang shit but when the trend is hey new set from over there oh now this is a new set over here so you put this frequency out here now it's just sets being birthed but all you niggas skip the horror stories and that's what i don't like i heard the fear in that nigga quando rondo's voice when all that shit was going on it was actual fear while internet fam i just got into some real shit this nigga's in jail i can't move around i can't make money it's over for a fucking half a whole years that's scary dude in jail, I can't move around. I can't make money. It's over. For a fucking half a whole year? That's scary. Dude in jail right now.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Dog, you niggas always skip the horror story of it. Y'all need the pretty framing, the nice hook, the nice beat, and it got to be a slap. But when niggas get into the real shit of it, I don't see a shade room post, a neighborhood post, a fan blog post. I don't see it on Reddit. I don't see none of it. I don't be listening to that.
Starting point is 01:13:09 I don't see it. I don't see it. I was about to say, do they talk about that in their music? 100%. They talk about the negative shit? Yes. That's what I was getting ready to say. They absolutely talk about the L's they took.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Listen to Vaughn. He tell you, I wasn't even rapping until I came out of jail. I went through all this shit. I had a body on me here. Came out. Oh, shit. He got shot. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Damn, this is the first song on a new album. He's going through all of this. I'm talking about the pain that niggas suffer when you bury your man. Yes. I'm talking about the pain. No, I'm asking. I don't. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Yeah, but they make it sound cute and put it in a dope rhyme scheme. So now the bar is hard. But the trauma's harder. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Hey, dope song. These niggas is dealing with trauma. Real talk. I believe that.
Starting point is 01:13:55 But they're talking about it. I believe that. Dirk just lost. I'm not defending. No mad people. He took quite a few L's in a short amount of time. In a very short amount of time. And raps about it
Starting point is 01:14:05 Got you I don't listen to them As much as you So I was just asking Do they Put that on the music Or are they just glorifying Not glorifying
Starting point is 01:14:15 But talking about The other shit They're giving you Their life Got you Cause again They are Leading nations
Starting point is 01:14:20 Of millions of kids I agree with you So a 14 year old The same way I was 20 years old I remember when Reasonable 20 years old I remember when Reasonable Doubt dropped I remember when
Starting point is 01:14:27 You know what I'm saying Shit like that dropped And them niggas We looked up I remember looking up To Run DMC I remember looking up To fucking Ice Cube
Starting point is 01:14:34 Or whoever the case may be That was out And that was popping When we was kids Little kids look up to them Correct So when they start Keeping score
Starting point is 01:14:42 Talking about who They really killed These little kids Be out here Wanting to kill a motherfucker so they can put it on their album. All right, come on. We are sucking the fun out the weekend.
Starting point is 01:14:51 We'll finish that. Come on, let's talk about it. Yo, when's the last time you bowled, man? Wow. Yo, bowling is so much fun. We're in a JVP bowling episode. That'd be dope. Nah, this nigga take bowling too serious.
Starting point is 01:15:03 I'm cool with it. That's what I'm making fun of. Y'all taking the fun out of that shit. Any sport in the world, seriously. Yeah, he's the same way. Can we have a side darts game or something? Parks and field, get your wife. Pool.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Yeah, pool, darts. Darn game. I'll fuck with that. I'm not. I say this. I'm like, fam, what the fuck all this? You got the. It's all the same shit.
Starting point is 01:15:23 It's drunk games. Ice, you want to put the bumpers up the bowl now? No, I didn't say that. Ass. We can give him the bumpers. Who the fuck want the bumpers? Ice want to go trampoline. Scott.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Actually, I knew that about you. I'm not surprised. Like, your Monopoly record against me lets me know. Yo, shit, though. We view it different. We don't view it the same like I really tried to win you just like wanna be in good company
Starting point is 01:15:49 what else we got man we still on music or what yeah alright come on what else drop I'm not paying you I don't fucking know
Starting point is 01:15:54 I went right I went right to genres R&B soul and what came up nothing new and I'm cool and when that happened I said alright let me go text some of my favorite R&B acts and And what came up? Nothing new. Nah. I'm cool. And when that happened, I said, all right, let me go text some of my favorite R&B acts and see when they're coming.
Starting point is 01:16:09 So that's what I did. I saw Keanu LaDae drop something, but I guess it was all old songs or something. Silk Sonic dropped. I'm sorry? They re-released the album and added the new record to it. Warm record? Mm-hmm. Sure did. One day day y'all gotta
Starting point is 01:16:28 explain that to me explain it right now no I don't explain it right now all jokes aside I don't understand money grab oh okay
Starting point is 01:16:36 money grab yo so how no seriously explain it yo you add two songs to the album it entices people
Starting point is 01:16:48 to rebuy the album the same exact album or just go stream the two songs or just re-stream it again because now it's back to the top of the little new album release
Starting point is 01:16:55 it's at the new release again now so somebody like how Joe said he just went into the genres and clicked this if you click new releases it shows that
Starting point is 01:17:02 Silk Sonic was now released again on you're either gonna say oh this is new and hit play or you're gonna say oh you know what
Starting point is 01:17:09 I haven't listened to this in a while and hit play and either way but if he already bought it where's the profit in it it's true the plan is to get people
Starting point is 01:17:18 that didn't already buy it to you might have missed it re-ignite interest put it back in your face again gotcha or that's why artists will drop an album and come back and interest put it back in your face again gotcha that's why artists
Starting point is 01:17:25 will drop an album and come back and give you the deluxe same thing yeah gotcha which I never hit play
Starting point is 01:17:31 on any of them you buggin I still can't get over that you're a music guy though y'all like y'all every week look at all the new music so y'all know what came out
Starting point is 01:17:39 whereas me I might be like oh shit they album came out I understand the concept yeah I understand you miss it that week and now
Starting point is 01:17:45 three weeks go by and you're like, oh shit. Gotcha. Some people rely on the algorithms only. We are all from the previous generation. This guy's in real estate. He know all about slapping some new molding on some old shit. And getting a sale off.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Facts. That's the concept. That's the concept. Now that makes sense. That's the perfect analogy. That makes sense. Oh yeah, my mom got some molding question for you. I need a baseboard question. Yeah, you got to fix the baseboards.
Starting point is 01:18:15 Listen, when you get the house done, oh my God. You always heard the stories, but nah, they right smack in my face now. You see it now. Your mother out there getting that $90 foot baseboard too. She picked the highest shit
Starting point is 01:18:30 in the store. No one with his face. She's talking to me. My mom listens to this podcast. I love your mother. I know. She picking a $20 a foot. No, I want the tall.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Yeah. Boy, they got ass the other day. Hey, these radiators, you need the new. She told me, I want the floating ones. Okay. They floating all right. Yeah. My mom put a chandelier in the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:19:00 A chandelier dog in the bathroom. That's swag, though. That's swag. I don't know what y'all talking about. That's a beautiful thing. Yeah. That's swag, though. That's swag. I don't know what y'all talking about. That's a beautiful thing. Yeah. That's some fly shit. That's like putting a flat screen in the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:19:11 That's some fly shit, though. I have a big-ass bathroom. I know. She probably does. She don't. Oh. So? Just extra fancy.
Starting point is 01:19:21 She actually went in there the other day while they was doing the work. Talking about can't make it a little bigger? Came back over to my house. I'm like, I feel so small in there. She said, I'm claustrophobic in there after staying here. So knock that wall down.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Make this a little wider. I ain't say it, but guess what? Better go ahead and turn into Barbie. Yo. I'm joking, mom. I'm joking. I'm joking.
Starting point is 01:19:52 I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. I can get me in trouble. Anyway, yeah. But you hear the horror stories. Hey, you won't know until we tear the walls down.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Boy, yo. You niggas, y'all better than Spotify. Yeah. That's good. These house building niggas Y'all better than Spotify Yeah That's good These house building niggas When they say that We won't know really Y'all good yo
Starting point is 01:20:11 That's leaving the room For the ass weapon Nah Nah you good It's like a mechanic Y'all good Do the same shit Mechanic do the same
Starting point is 01:20:16 Yo I ain't gonna know Until I get it up on the list Daniel Ack ain't got shit on On y'all Who? Daniel Ack We thinking We ain't getting it off of the stream. These niggas is putting some sheetrock over some bullshit.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Oh, man. See, and that's when you... Hey, back to our earlier conversation, Ice. And that's when you become uncomfortable. When you don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Especially the men.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Somebody that knows is talking to somebody that don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Especially the men. Somebody that knows is talking to somebody that don't know. I ain't all the way comfortable right now. Let me go do a quick research, call a friend, lifeline. No, that's what they do. The men. It be the men because the machismo and the ego kicking. Yeah. So the man will go look on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Yeah, get to Googling. He's already moved YouTube. He be like, yo, man. Yo, I just want to know when you're going to put the such and suches in? He'd be like, yo, they right here. They'd be like, oh, oh, oh. Oh, you used the silver ones. I ain't never seen them.
Starting point is 01:21:17 You're a dumbass. We've been that way since forever. Yo, you get lost. You going to stop in that? No, no, I'm going to figure this shit out. I got this. That's just men shit. That's why I don't respect the men today. That's why. What you mean? They'll never get lost. You going to stop in that? No, no, I'm going to figure this shit out. I got this. That's just men shit. That's why I don't respect the men today.
Starting point is 01:21:27 That's why. What you mean? They don't never get lost? They got GPS. I appreciate the fuck out of some GPS. A part of being a man is finding your way, Ice. Or remembering. Yo, part of being a man is rolling the window down and asking a nigga for directions that
Starting point is 01:21:43 is sending you the wrong directions purposely to line you up and now use your brain to figure against it. Time out. Your guts don't sound like the way. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:21:54 You actually ask for directions at some point? Nah. At some point? You get too lost, you gotta ask for directions. I start backtracking. Nah, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:22:01 I'm never asking for directions. Even prior to GPS and shit, I'm cool. I remember that. MapQuest days. See, you different, yo. Yo, we had to print out the fucking directions to go cheat. Yo, dawg. We had to have a printer to cheat.
Starting point is 01:22:14 I was off-pitch, yo. Yo. Brooklyn, and them niggas was looking at me like. Hey, son. MapQuest, because they didn't tell you. I wish you would. Don't let a road be closed. Them niggas got all these ways and all this shit to tell you when the police and gang
Starting point is 01:22:24 members is around. MapQuest, it was just directions. Print. Print. The little line didn't turn red when the niggas had guns out there. Nope. Or when it was traffic. Or you could hit a little street view and see what...
Starting point is 01:22:36 Oh, no, you live here. I'm not going there. Mad nigga had to run to Staples to cheat. No, dog. Not just that. I don't respect these new niggas at all, yo. The world's just been handed to you on a silver spoon now the neighborhood pops up or google yeah you'd be like oh you
Starting point is 01:22:50 that's the project oh no yo it's the other it's the other reason why i don't respect niggas like ice the fuck you mean like me nigga because you said you don't ask for directions oh yeah no i don't know what teaches you to ask for directions when you learn what going straight does. I'll expound. Please. Y'all don't know where I'm at. I'm going to just go straight. The towns start changing.
Starting point is 01:23:19 The police jurisdictions start changing. Hey, the scenery start changing. You start seeing gas lights. No liquor stores. Hey, wait, it become a lot more lights too. Hey, hey. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 01:23:32 This is a string of like seven lights in a row. Like quick lights. Hey, I've been robbed of the light in the daytime. Them Jersey City niggas ain't care. They ain't give two fucks.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Hey man, roll this window down. You, you nigga. This shit. I ain't give two fucks I mean Roll this window down You You nigga Shit Yeah no I never asked for directions I know I'm cool
Starting point is 01:23:55 Go ahead and keep Keep driving straight Well no I got I'm good now All the GPS's I ain't getting The world The world handed to you
Starting point is 01:24:03 Whole world When did the When did the kids have to figure it out nothing nothing at all even though you say like I'm that far from you
Starting point is 01:24:09 even though that's what's great you are I'm not Joe you are alright and what experience my age
Starting point is 01:24:18 what does that mean who cares about your age what does age mean age means absolutely nothing age is a benchmark for us to assume what you should and shouldn't have been through or know at this juncture. That's all it is. But inexperienced.
Starting point is 01:24:33 Oh, I didn't mean to press that. That's a good drop she got for y'all. Yeah, she's good. No, she sounds good. But yeah, no, inexperienced? I don't know. Yes, we all are far apart. Negative's trying to kill me.
Starting point is 01:24:46 They're trying to kill me at some point. What are you talking about? My brain works different. Hey. As a nigga that they were trying to kill. Yeah. Yeah, I don't want to hear it. I don't want it.
Starting point is 01:24:56 I don't want it in the morning. You win? Yeah, you won. You got it, King. That's not something I wish to have experienced. So you got it. You won. Bill's character.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Listen, you got it, bro. Bill's character? Listen, you got it, bro. Bill's caskets. Bill's character, I said. I heard you. That nigga Franklin changed his tone up quick when he seen Reed was watching from the building. They turned up, man. That third episode was good. Yeah, Snowfall was great, yo.
Starting point is 01:25:18 Yeah. The first two episodes was great. Yeah. They was great. They wasn't bad episodes. It's just niggas that don't like introduction episodes. Like where we have to explain some things and some characters. They left it
Starting point is 01:25:29 unexplained. I was just going to say it was mad shit. I am still mad that Franklin Baby Maul. That's the only thing that I'm upset at. It seems like they're skipping around in time a little bit though. What? How? how your mic sounds like shit I can't hear you and I don't watch that
Starting point is 01:25:53 the family that he was going up against that had that library I think it was yeah I remember yeah so he just said this
Starting point is 01:26:02 on the interview recently he said that his girlfriend was the lawyer representing them. But they should have showed that. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Enough of that.
Starting point is 01:26:14 That's the only thing that disturbs me about that. But other than that, this episode, it's great. I didn't see the third one yet. No, the third one was great, Chiller. Third one was great. That was what I was expecting. I appreciate this nigga's intelligence, dog. This young boy is smart as shit.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Who, him or Nutso? Both. Nutso is my man. Yeah. I don't even know his name, but that's my man. But every movie- That's my man. He plays the same exact character.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Look at him. He's the man, yo. Every movie. He's the same. Even when they try to make me think- Oh, spoiler alert. Cover your ears. I'm fine. Even when they try to make me think that oh, spoiler alert, cover your ears. I'm fine.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Even when they try to make me think that they was about to off him. It was 70-30. No, you're not. Yeah, it was 70-30. I dare you. I dare you to off him and continue a season. And if you do off him, it ain't going to be episode two or three. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:58 No way. No way. Shout out to Snowfall, man. And shout out to the Atlanta fans that are sad, man. What you mean? Fans of the show Atlanta, they're sad. Why? Because it's not returning.
Starting point is 01:27:11 It is returning for two more seasons, and then it's over. You're lying. Yeah. They said this is the last season. Two seasons. They did two seasons. They're dropping them both, I think, this year. And then it's a done.
Starting point is 01:27:23 Yeah, because this is going to be season three. Yeah. And it's a dub Yeah cause this is gonna be Season 3 Yeah And it's 3 and 4 That are the final seasons That's weird That's weird Yeah that's some cool That's weirdo shit
Starting point is 01:27:33 What? We're letting you go We don't wanna pick you back up But we have Two more seasons Of you Eh whatever So why even let niggas know
Starting point is 01:27:41 That that's the last season Yeah I'm not doing it right That's dumb Any more music? Um DaBaby and NBA Youngboy dropped a joint album called Better Than You. I'm pretty sure none of you guys have heard it. I listened to it. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:27:56 I did listen to it. Shocked. Okay. They dropped a single a couple weeks ago called Hit. I hated that record, So I was like, if this is what y'all giving me, I'm cool. Then I went and listened
Starting point is 01:28:08 to the album and skipped the first record. Next record on the line all the way down to about seven, which was Count On Me was straight. I was cool.
Starting point is 01:28:18 Like this was, this was a, those are the ones I liked. Okay. So overall, I'm fucking with the project. Okay. That's really it. What do you think about a lot of music yo who young what yeah like
Starting point is 01:28:33 he's really putting out a lot of music when you look when you sit and look at it he's dropping high high high frequency why We'll see. Why? You're on house arrest. Man, it's deeper. We got you out of jail for a reason, my nigga. Who got him out of jail? The label? The label. Remember they put him on house arrest when YLM was constantly talking?
Starting point is 01:28:57 Yeah, nigga. Yeah. We're going to move you over here. We're making some calls. No, no, no. Hey. They made all the calls. All.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Every last call. I forgot about that. So now making some calls. No, no, no. Hey. They made all the calls. All, every last call. I forgot about that. So now it's time to work? Think about that. Yo, let's go. Y'all niggas. And you come out and say I want off the label? Yeah, because now you might have had a chance to sit, and you might have had a chance to read your paperwork,
Starting point is 01:29:21 and you might have had a chance to say, why y'all niggas pulling me out? I got it. Or you might have realized. chance to say why y'all niggas pulling me up i got it or you might have realized out of my wheelhouse the only way i was getting out is what i had to give up you get what i'm saying you see what this youtube channel makes a month and he's clearly said i'm not getting paid from this now I don't know if that means zero or what he feels he should be getting, but he has a problem with it. And on their end,
Starting point is 01:29:50 they're like, yo, my man, let's go. Just think about the law, quote unquote. In parentheses, air quotes, and some more quotes. When the powers that be start moving chess pieces around on the board, they can get you on house arrest across the fucking country if they spend enough money. They probably don't have to spend no money.
Starting point is 01:30:12 It's a phone call. Some favors. Yeah. Favors could be money. Favors could be other favors down the road, but that's crazy. Get him out. We all just chess pieces trapped in our lives. Not knowing shit about anything besides what's transpired
Starting point is 01:30:27 in our lives. I think you get to a place where you start moving pieces on your own. You still might be a piece in the game. You ain't a pawn in the game. You speaking. It's the weekend. Yeah. most people you think that's not true for most people no no no way no most people gonna live their life trap trap in it porn and that's why you got a fuck with some of these Gen Z niggas, boy. They like, no, I'm not buying a house.
Starting point is 01:31:05 I'm renting. I'm going to do what the fuck I want. Yeah, they're not going to push you onto your hamster wheel. One of them governors that was against the LGBTQ plus community, they went over to the Texas school to speak. I don't know the school. You can look it up. The kids started fucking, fuck you, fascists.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Beating on the desks. Fuck you, fascists. Beating on the desks. Fuck you, fascists. Beating on the desks, dog. And I was like, yo, that's why you got to love these kids, yo. I love the rebelliousness in them. I love that part. I just hate when it's like against me. Jeff Younger, heckled as fascist by students. Yeah, get Jeff Younger the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 01:31:44 Fuck him. Fuck he coming to speak about the fuck out of here. Fuck him. Fuck he coming to speak about. Or days of being on a desk. I want to hear that shit. Yeah, fuck out of here. I should have stayed in school so I could have did something like that. That would have been me. You can go back.
Starting point is 01:31:59 You can go back. What are they doing in there? I'm going there a while. Go back. What are they doing? there? I'm going there a while. Go back. What are they doing? Nigga, getting an education. What you mean? Got it.
Starting point is 01:32:14 No, I'm serious. You know, me and you differ on this, yo. I think that schools should start teaching things that maybe might be a little more important throughout life. Yeah, but now that you have the opportunity to go back at this age you'll learn whatever you want to learn get i'm saying you learned this shit i'm not arguing you because you run a multi-million dollar empire you want to get it to a billion dollar empire along the way you need some education to do that not saying that the education is not available here but I think a combination of the two
Starting point is 01:32:46 is beneficial I'd rather call Steve Stout I'll call Hope yo how do I do it fucking going to this fucking school with these
Starting point is 01:32:59 you can't even fuck if you go there old shit yo who said how many old ladies be in them night classes You can't even fuck if you go there old. Shit. Yo, yo. Who said? You know how many old ladies be in them night classes? Fuck it. No, I don't.
Starting point is 01:33:11 There you go. How many be in there? It's like we're gone. Hooker in the night class. That mean? Little professors coming in. That would be fun to be like in your 40s and go to school and be rebellious
Starting point is 01:33:26 I would go to the show I ain't change still ain't doing this shit I hate I hate homework but too weak wait if you go back you gotta do homework
Starting point is 01:33:37 like work what the fuck I done learned about time inventory now suck my dick homework you kidding me you gotta do homework you gotta do reports What the fuck? Yes. I learned about time inventory now. Suck my dick. Homework. Are you kidding me? You got to do homework.
Starting point is 01:33:48 You got to do reports. All that shit. Yeah, man. Just stay on. Stay on the couch. Don't even waste your time, man. Don't do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:57 It's not for you. You good. You good. You good. You in school, right? Yeah, see? You get homework assignments. Deadlines. good you're in school right yeah see he can homework assignments deadlines and that's why he won't lose the weight
Starting point is 01:34:11 it's time inventory how do you allot your time you think he got time to have listen this podcast is a job it's work man building a house, I never did it, but looking at houses, it just looks like work. Selling a house, I know selling one or anything is pretty tough. That's got to be tough. Now your personal time, hey, it's some juggling that goes there too. You got a lot of fun. And school?
Starting point is 01:34:41 It's a lot. You can't add anything else to your life right now. No, it's all right. Trapped in your life. Is that breaking news? Nah, it's 50 Cent and Game. What they did? There was that meme going around where...
Starting point is 01:34:58 Are we reporting on a meme? No. Well, it was something that was said. It was made on Clubhouse. It made into a meme where 50 and his manager said that Game, I mean, excuse me, Game and his manager said that Game wrote What Up Gangsta for 50. Can we disprove that?
Starting point is 01:35:15 It's been disproved. Yeah, Sean Money said it. Yeah. He said it. They've all. Way before. Before he even signed over there. They had that record done.
Starting point is 01:35:25 You lying. It just goes. I had that record done. You lying. It just goes there. I love Game, yo. I do. Nah, he's fun. 50 posted on Twitter with that picture. It was like, yo, what is this? And then Game responded saying, like, last time we put the whole G-Union in the casket, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:35:41 It's nothing but breaking news. Oh. Who cares? Game's promoting something, blah. It's nothing but breaking news. Who cares? Gang's promoting something, in case y'all don't know. This Drillmatic album he has coming. Wait, what's it called? Yes, that's the name of the album. What's the name of the album?
Starting point is 01:35:56 Drillmatic. I'm going to go lay in a casket. What the fuck are we talking about? What are we doing? This is all built up for that. The name of the album is Drillmatic. What does it mean? Drill version of Illmatic.
Starting point is 01:36:18 Illmatic, Stillmatic, Drillmatic. Drill is the new sound. What we just talked about. I'm done, yo. Just go ahead. We just talked about i'm done just go ahead we just i don't care i don't care i don't care because i can't guess what this is without hearing the album so i won't assume that it's game doing a bunch of uh drills i don't know what this i don't know what it is why not why would you not just just guess that even if it's wrong why would you not guess that well because the first single wasn't drilly
Starting point is 01:36:45 and what's my problem with game doing drill i wouldn't i don't have a problem shouldn't have one jim just did it i don't have a problem with it i'm just telling y'all that's the name of the album could be dope he makes good albums but listen game makes great albums yes he does that's the tough part about being a rapper. We just talked about this a few days ago. Game is how every year's old came in at a different time. And now as a rapper, you have to see the trend, spot the trend, figure out if you want to join that or if you have to add this in your arsenal.
Starting point is 01:37:20 And a lot of people are going to say yes because it's powerful, especially if you're a good rapper and you feel like you could do it so game says yes i would hate to have to ask myself that at the mercy of y'all all the time that's why i stopped because you don't have to that's sick you don't have to you don't have to um I think when you get to a certain level, you don't have to. I think when you get to a certain level, you don't have to. But if you're not at that level. Kanye's doing drill. He don't have to.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Then why'd he do it? Kanye also experiments with sounds. He does that. Because he's a sound guy. And that's my point. One of the sounds you have to acknowledge, no matter who you are, is drill. And you have to make a decision with it. But Kanye didn't make a drill album and name it around drill. Kanye's been making a lot of drill music.
Starting point is 01:38:15 He can't fool me with the pretty drums. Those are drill drums he's using. I don't. The Fabio record is drill both times. Anything Fabio's on is a drill beat. Fabio's on a Mary J. Blige record and it is a drill beat. Fabio's on a Mary J. Blige record, it's a drill beat. Fabio ain't a fucking drill license.
Starting point is 01:38:30 Kanye is Kanye. Correct. So that don't really respond to that for me. You have done two records drill that this gentleman is on. I love Fabio too. Same. And that album's gonna go crazy.
Starting point is 01:38:40 I heard another snippet. Another snippet. You heard it? What's wrong with him? It's coming. This is why they think that the drill rappers are paying me.
Starting point is 01:38:50 No, it's just some shit is good. That shit is good, yo. But anyway. You were saying? I don't remember what I was saying. I don't even care. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:39:01 You were saying that as a rapper coming out, for you to have to now acclimate to this, you would hate to be in that. It's just a tough decision for people to make. I think a new act, you have to look at that and make that decision. Alicia Keys did a drill out, a drill song.
Starting point is 01:39:17 It's something that you have to consider, is all I'm saying. And that's what I meant about mainstream. But as an artist, you might like the sound. You might want to play around with the sound just to test yourself. You know what I meant about mainstream But as an artist You might like the sound You might want to play around with the sound Just to test yourself Yeah You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:39:29 Just to test yourself Let me see if I can do this We just heard When you talked to What was it? Tank He was saying about the R&B dudes Like I'm picking up these newer sounds
Starting point is 01:39:38 Cadences and all that other shit So yeah If this is what's popping right now Let me fuck with that a little bit But that's what mainstream is Yeah We're all in agreeance there I said we're all in agreeance there So yeah, if this is what's popping right now, let me fuck with that a little bit. But that's what mainstream is. Yeah. We're all in agreeance there.
Starting point is 01:39:49 I said we're all in agreeance there. I know. We're just not in agreeance with whether this particular thing being mainstream is great or not. But it's fine. Come on. Moving on. What else we got? Any more in music? NBA Youngboy dissed everybody on a song on that album.
Starting point is 01:40:06 No, no, no. That was a record he put out on YouTube. Just on a stream. What happened? Let me just diss you niggas because. No, no, no. Dirk's first single off of his album was called Aha. And he's kind of talking to him.
Starting point is 01:40:21 Yeah, I'm done with this show. What happened is, which I told y'all before I do respect this part of it young boy didn't go on the internet he didn't make any posts he didn't do any threatening
Starting point is 01:40:31 I just went to the booth yo Joe made a song put a song out Joe wants everybody to stay alive that's what I got word
Starting point is 01:40:37 that's what I got and that's kinda what it's the stupid ass fans when cause once that happens both of these dudes have huge fan stupid-ass fans. Because once that happens, both of these dudes have huge fan bases. So now it's like, if I like him, it's fuck him.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Or if you're a fan of him, you can't... It's been a bunch of that in the comments and all that stupid shit. The fans who have no real investment in this are acting like their lives are on the line. And that's what I was just saying about the people that talk from their
Starting point is 01:41:05 couch versus the participants i'm off it i'm not covering it but yeah but what did happen after the young boy record is because he took one of the old joe approaches where i'm not gonna just diss you i'm gonna diss anybody that's cool with you so he said a lot of names I do respect that part though he said a lot I'm telling you as a fan of rap
Starting point is 01:41:29 and competitive rap and diss record rap he really hit all the check marks without doing none of the bullshit that come with it
Starting point is 01:41:37 that's why I like it what's the bullshit the bullshit is when you see a nigga get on camera with a bunch of guns I'm riding around your hood looking for you stuff like that
Starting point is 01:41:44 one he's on house arrest in Utah he ain't going nowhere so all i did was wrapped and put us i didn't even have no cover it was just his face and just no video just threw a song out and of course it goes crazy but in the song he takes shots at everybody who stands with dirk or next to dirk or did a record with Dirk or just cool with him. You know, he talked about, he mentioned Boosie. He mentioned Lil Baby. He mentioned Gucci. These two gentlemen you don't really want to mention in records.
Starting point is 01:42:16 We don't have a figure that can mend that relationship. Bro, I've been saying this for months. Yes, you have. I know you have. And I'm reiterating it right now. We don't. Someone should. someone can't so i don't want to assume i don't know how deep this is well i'll say the last time someone i know it's pretty deep though the last time someone with any og status tried to speak to a young boy, it didn't go. It didn't go well. You got it.
Starting point is 01:42:46 So, okay. He might be moving on his own. None of you niggas can tell me shit. I'm up. I got a shitload of money. Fuck all you niggas. It's kind of like the old 50 approach.
Starting point is 01:42:57 When 50 was like, fuck all you old niggas. I don't care about, y'all can't talk to me. There's a deep conversation to be had. I'm not having this. No, no, no. I don't talk to me. There's a deep conversation to be had. I'm not having this. No, no, no. I don't have that. It's the weekend.
Starting point is 01:43:11 There's two deep conversations, actually, but I don't want to have them. It should be anonymity amongst certain cultures, man. I ain't leaving that. I ain't leaving that, yo. I ain't. Because the song means eyes and ears and police and influence. It just leads to something.
Starting point is 01:43:30 And that ain't what we, I'm out of my business. I ain't a gang member. Nope, you right, though. I ain't a gangster. I ain't a street nigga. I don't know. I don't know. I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:43:40 All right, finally off of music guests. Yeah, I think so. I think so. See, I think these music talks go a lot better when R&B comes out. Boy, boy, I tell you, man. This is crazy, because this shit that I didn't even want to talk about. Like, I'm trying not to talk about certain aspects of this, but it's like y'all throwing it on the main screen.
Starting point is 01:43:56 Like, if you got a beef with a nigga, why y'all? Never mind. Go ahead. Y'all want to talk about these festivals? That's some positive music shit. Here we go. Festival season's coming back. Why?
Starting point is 01:44:08 Actually, wait a minute. I was about to say. I was about to think about it. This could be super negative. This particular one, too. But go ahead. One of them looks like it could be. One of them, the J. Cole shit looks like it's going to be pretty positive.
Starting point is 01:44:19 You know what? Y'all can discuss it. I'm going to chill out. All right. Well, J. Cole announced his Dreamville Festival which is Saturday and Sunday
Starting point is 01:44:28 April 2nd and 3rd in North Carolina and it has a pretty amazing lineup on both days I'm going to Sunday Saturday has Lil Baby
Starting point is 01:44:38 Kalani Ja Rule and Ashanti Fabio Blass Wizkid Moray and and others. Sunday, J. Cole and his entire Dreamville team. DJ Drama, Gangsta Grill set with Lil Wayne, Jeezy, and T.I. Moneybagg Yo, T-Pain, Wale, Larry June.
Starting point is 01:45:01 This sounds like an amazing festival to me. It does. I don't have anything negative to say. This looks great. And then also, Rolling Loud announced their Miami festival, which is July 22nd through 24th. And the headliners,
Starting point is 01:45:18 first night is Ye, second night is Future, third night is Kendrick Lamar. That's a hell of a lineup. Yeah, that's heavy hitters. Yeah. And the non-mainheadliners are also crazy.
Starting point is 01:45:31 All the monsters. Everybody. Yeah, it's too many to read. I'm not reading all these names. Yeah, it's a lot of names. This shit looks lit as fuck, though. The sad part is it's rolling loud. And it's starting to get that stigma with rolling loud i don't want to
Starting point is 01:45:46 i'm not trying to put anything in the air but we've seen a lot of rolling louds where there's been some incidents i feel like they would well i would hope that they would have changed some whatever structural they need to do to change what they did we don't know i don't know i hope that they hope they put four cops on every street in Miami. Because they don't got to be at Rolling Loud, nigga. It could be at... True. Prime.
Starting point is 01:46:12 But the problem is it usually happens at Rolling Loud. Right. That's why I say this particular festival. Your arrests, all these incidents happen... Fights backstage. There. A nigga couldn't give me a free flight. Comped rooms.
Starting point is 01:46:29 And it's a tie with the fucking Pan-American room for free on the 24th. Nigga, the 20th. You're going nowhere near Miami? I wouldn't touch Miami. You crazy. The good thing is these are usually streaming, right? Yeah. I'm going to go ahead and watch this one from the stream.
Starting point is 01:46:49 Go on YouTube. I'm a little busy. Hook up the speakers. You know what I mean? Another thing I did notice is we kind of guessed before the babies at Rolling Loud. Yeah, they cleared them. They gave them the ability to make money again. No, they cleared him. They gave him
Starting point is 01:47:06 the ability to make money again. No, they didn't. They did. That's exactly what happened. He called the people. People said, go ahead. You good. You got your pow-pow. You know what it is. We learned you. Bet not.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Bet not. Your old head be like, you better not. Learn you real quick. Mainstream. What, Roll Out? With all of the... I'm listening. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:38 That. But again, you don't get to make that list until you get a certain amount. And I hear the Rolling Loud know me paying niggas the way Rolling Loud's supposed to. That's what I hear. They can't. Excuse me? You know what the ticket cost of this? No.
Starting point is 01:47:56 A VIP ticket. Well, let's just do a GA. Pull up a general admission ticket. Pass for the week. What is it? Three days. For the weekend. General admission pass for Rolling Loud. What it three days? For the weekend. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:48:06 General admission pass for Rolling Loud. Was that $1,100? Holy shit. Are they getting to it? I have never seen that. Yeah. $264.71, $734. That's per day.
Starting point is 01:48:20 $525. Look at the three-day pass. $2,300 for the three-day pass. That's the VIP. Well, that Look at the three-day pass. 2,300 for the three-day pass. That's the VIP. Well, that's Portugal. But the Miami one, 525 starting three-day pass. Three-day pass at $500. How many people will hold?
Starting point is 01:48:37 A lot. A lot. I don't know exactly. It's Hard Rock, right? Or whatever the- Yeah, Hard Rock. So probably 60,000, something that ballpark. Well, actually,
Starting point is 01:48:47 probably a little more because it's a field. Yeah, this ain't exceeded. You can look and see it'll be more than $60,000. Yo, dog. Sheesh. Yes.
Starting point is 01:48:56 Yo, y'all be safe. Word. Y'all be careful. Hey, yo. I'm talking about performers, concert goers. We need to set up a Rollin' Whisper. That makes you get that much money like that.
Starting point is 01:49:08 We can put our heads together and come up with something. I had a reply, but I won't alienate myself from the hip hop community. We don't even got to roll loud. We can roll soft. What the fuck you talking about? You'll hear this nigga, yo. I'm dead ass. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:49:29 You going to do a folk festival? Anything. No. You said what? Anything. No. No. All right.
Starting point is 01:49:37 So we're going to do the R&B version, rolling soft. Them niggas getting money, man. How about the money? Go set it up. You the connect. You the plug. I'm not setting it up. I'm cool.
Starting point is 01:49:56 I ain't going. I ain't nothing. I just want to sit on this couch all day. One day I want to come here and just talk about only things that make me happy. I didn't realize why I be sounding like this. Because we always talk about music, and music's depressing to me. It ain't even just music. Just the topics we have to touch.
Starting point is 01:50:12 Especially when we do the podcast. We don't want to talk about that shit. Made a fucking hundred million. I don't know how much this shit worth, but this worth a lot of money in a five-year stretch. Off the backs of niggas. So American. I did not know that niggas. So American. I did not know that niggas was getting money like that.
Starting point is 01:50:26 And I'm telling you what I think they doing, I can't prove it. This is just my guess. Go back to that. They're signing these cats to, like, you know, it's a roll,
Starting point is 01:50:36 it's a 360, not a 360, but yo, yo, you on rolling loud for the next six. Yo, I could read the lower half of these names
Starting point is 01:50:44 and tell you what Niggas booking fee is Well that's alphabetical On this one Oh that one Yeah Yeah The low bottom
Starting point is 01:50:50 Y'all not getting booked Y'all not getting paid This is a look You wanna be on this stage Love and light man Have fun Thoughts and prayers Have fun
Starting point is 01:50:58 To the people that love it Love it Love away Love harder than you ever have I know what I'm saying Because if you Think about it yo fam you know me i'm stuck on the money that's crazy the last let's say five rolling louds i don't mean years just the last five festivals they kind of all had the same headliner like look at the trap the festival travels roll out new york miami portugal like They've kind of had the same people in the top two roles.
Starting point is 01:51:29 And let me tell you this, murder rappers. Back to my mainstream point. Rolling Loud is far too huge of an entity to not work in conjunction with the police. Why does it take me to say such a fact? It's just a plain fucking fact you cannot grow that large as a traveling fucking entity and not work in conjunction with the police that's there do with that what you want to do with that and shout out to everybody on here it puts some of them at a crossroads though they might know that and it's like damn but do I go
Starting point is 01:52:06 do I not go Rolling Loud in my opinion specifically markets to that and that's my issue with this in hip hop that that Rolling Loud is the bridge that's going to bring all the champions
Starting point is 01:52:20 and participants the living room coaches to the audience versus the people backstage that really have to live with whatever is going on. And it's a perfect bridge. That's why.
Starting point is 01:52:33 And they market and promote to that. Most of the day, they'll bring out the drill artists you've never heard before. That's true. Like they just, it's that.
Starting point is 01:52:43 Rolling Loud to me, who's a casual guy because I don't follow this like that. That's that Rolling Loud to me who's a casual guy because I don't follow this like that that's what it is but could it be take yay away take future
Starting point is 01:52:51 take away to office Seinfeld and friends and what you showing me but it's that could it be because that's such a big sound right now
Starting point is 01:53:03 stop I'm not I'm not defending I'm just asking a question see and that's such a big sound right now? Stop it. I'm not defending. I'm just asking a question. See, and that's why I don't like Ish's earlier point. That's a good one. It's not a good one. No, I'm saying you. That was a good one that you said.
Starting point is 01:53:14 That's why I don't like your earlier point of, yo, niggas is getting money. Well, it's the same thing that we're seeing in music. Yeah, I'm sure niggas are getting money, but who? we seeing in music. Yeah, I'm sure niggas are getting money, but who? Because this is getting money from the marketing,
Starting point is 01:53:26 promotion, performance of drill music. We talking money, money now. Yeah, that's the other money. I didn't know that shit was that lucrative.
Starting point is 01:53:33 We talking money, money. And again, that's one show. But no. And I'd be the nigga to come in here on the podcast and say, yo,
Starting point is 01:53:41 all drill artists don't participate in none of these fuckboy festivals unless you are given equity. It's built on your back. There's no conversation to be had when you know it's built on your back. It is, though, yo.
Starting point is 01:53:56 It's like the world is built on backs of the poor. Ish, you right about that. You get what I'm saying? We do this for fun, and you right. I know what I'm saying. You can say that as a- I'm only talking about here. I'm only talking about here. You right, so I'm saying like you could say I know I'm saying you could say that I'm only talking about here I'm only talking about here
Starting point is 01:54:07 you right so I'm not arguing your point but here when something is so new right like OnlyFans they tried to do the shit that everybody else do
Starting point is 01:54:16 they tried to get big you too new them creators still had say hey we don't like that shit oh shit changed quit when you new this is five years.
Starting point is 01:54:25 So you right. But look, pull that fucking lineup back up. You don't need many. You don't. A lot of these names is small and new. If the major people here said, yo, and I ain't saying everybody should get equity. I'm saying the major people that this is on the back, built I'm like, built on the back, so I'm like, I said, it's the same niggas here.
Starting point is 01:54:48 There's no way this shit exists and Kodak Black shouldn't have equity. I don't even know about it. But that nigga go out there, yeah, busting his ass, risking his life, getting a shootout late on that night. Like, the fuck? And these niggas, nah, nah, nah, nah. Nope, nope.
Starting point is 01:55:04 But that's just my opinion. Work stoppage somewhere. Just show it somewhere. Hey, we won't stop making music because it's in us. So the labels are still in. But some of these fucking new ass festivals? Fuck these festivals. So let me, stay there.
Starting point is 01:55:19 Take 10 people off here. It's still a festival. Especially when it's a whole different festival. No, no, no. It's a whole different festival. No, no, no. It's a whole different festival. It depends on what 10. It's a whole different festival. When you got the three headliners that they have.
Starting point is 01:55:30 No, those is in a 10 for me. When you tell me take 10 off, I'm getting them out of here. Kanye's not going to Rolling Loud without some equitable stake. That's just how his brain is working nowadays. You giving me something. I can't speak to how his brain is working with all this divorce shit going on. He would have never did this shit with Kim Kardashian.
Starting point is 01:55:48 I can't speak to where he's at today. He done moved to Miami. I can't speak to where his brain is at today. But I'm taking him off. You tell me I can take 10 people off?
Starting point is 01:55:56 I'm taking Ye. No, it definitely changes. Lil Baby, Kodak, Baby King can stay. He's new. Moneybag, there's new scenes. Uzi.
Starting point is 01:56:03 What's up, Uzi? You take Uzi off Yeah you take them names off Dirk off The baby I might See they got the baby in pocket Now with that shit Yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:56:11 He's there He's there See look That's what makes me mad Most of these niggas is new Yeah They all Back to what Vince Staples said
Starting point is 01:56:18 One day we'll stop doing it for the look But you can't You can As a new act, you can't. Fuck them new acts. I'm lost. I'm talking about the, I'm saying the new acts can't stop doing it for the look. Who you talking about?
Starting point is 01:56:35 The bigger artists. I'm talking about the smaller acts. This is what I'm saying to you. As time goes on, Rolling Loud is not doing nothing but gaining leverage. Absolutely. Which makes your point true. At that point,
Starting point is 01:56:51 as a new artist, you can't turn it down. You can't turn it down. It's too big of a look. I'm saying, they got that big in year five because of this. Indeed.
Starting point is 01:57:01 You have to do something soon or they just gonna keep fucking going. That's all I'm saying. It's not to refute what you're saying. No, no, no. It's the NFL. It's the music NFL. It's the same shit. Look at this third line on Sunday. Mozzie, love Mozzie, spot him, got him. Fat Nick,
Starting point is 01:57:17 Lakia, Ramirez, unauthorized, da-da-da-da-da, Lucy, da-da-da-da-da, yo, I'm speaking from the position of, right? And i know that i'm a weirdo but i was in hip-hop for a few different phases yo i was there when y'all niggas told me that the bloggers were the gatekeepers when that was new i remember that that turned into complex is a gatekeeper pitchfork is a gatekeeper the fucking just
Starting point is 01:57:50 participants watching from the living room that have a great business infrastructure now y'all are the fucking gatekeepers gatekeepers let's move on when I got punched in the face
Starting point is 01:58:00 that fucking whatever that rock the bells rock the bells part of why there was no recourse is cause it that rock the bells rock the bells part of why there was no recourse it's because it's rock the bells rock the bells the biggest fucking festival is saying yo do something here you'll never work here again oh and we're the biggest Wu-Tang fans in the world wait huh who the fuck are y'all y'all don't even exist in the next four years. But in hip-hop, they'll tell you, or they told you,
Starting point is 01:58:29 oh, you need that. Pay-dues festival? Don't let me dig up who owned that and what money got where and who sold what where, but when pay-dues is out, same thing as a new artist. Not a new artist, but as an artist that need a business. You got to do pay-dues. It's like a celebration When you get on paid dues
Starting point is 01:58:45 Ooh it's a paid dues Like a Grammy nomination You get nominated Oh it's a celebration What the fuck are we celebrating Who really came up But I'm the old grumpy man So I shut up
Starting point is 01:58:58 I ain't look at it that way Make a good point though Make a real good point Chinese Kitty ain't gonna say no to this. Uh-uh. The fuck are we talking about here? Doughboy, he on his way. We're gonna talk to him about it. He was real excited.
Starting point is 01:59:16 He ain't gonna say no to that. So we complicit then. But just know what you complicit in is all. It's the weekend. Come on, what else we got? What else we got? What have women saved your name in their phone as?
Starting point is 01:59:32 Come on, lighten it up. Nope. How do I know? We different. Oh, okay. How do you know? Because she tell you, nigga. Your dick that good.
Starting point is 01:59:42 She told you. She volunteers. You believe women? You fuck that so good, she showed it to you. I put an emoji there. Oh, okay. You ain't fucking that good? She ain't show you?
Starting point is 01:59:51 Now, you do fucking good. That one chick came to the compound. She ain't leaving. Two weeks. You kept her trapped. You good, though? You straight, right? Never mind.
Starting point is 01:59:59 Never mind. We was like, yo, that girl ain't leaving. Remember E? Yo, yo. Yo. You all right over there? Yo, you know how good a nigga Dick gotta be? He wasn't doing nothing but playing video games in there.
Starting point is 02:00:10 I'd say, oh, Ice is a fucking monster. There was some Xbox going on. No, no, clearly. And that bitch was happy as hell. Let me put a little doll in the cup. Yo, she used to come down to breakfast and not say a word. Fam, are we good? Bitch, you live with me.
Starting point is 02:00:22 You better say something. Anyway, hello. I'm like bitch you live with me you better say something anyway hello it's all jokes for the podcast haha JK LMAO manos what else we got where else we at we ain't really getting that do we believe game when he says that
Starting point is 02:00:41 he told Hov you gotta check in now in LA after the Super Bowl? You got to check in, dog. That was fake. Alright. Oh, we already discussed the what up blood shit. What up gangster shit. But that wasn't believable from the start. No. Ta-da.
Starting point is 02:00:58 That's my point. That flow ain't even... Game ain't... Game never did that flow. Ever. In his whole career. Ever. Nothing. Actually did that flow ever in his whole career ever not on nothing actually that flow sound like the patent 50 cent flow yeah oh whatever and i know game to be like the chameleon of lyricists like he could sound like somebody else but he'd be trying to sound like the lyrical lyrical niggas he gonna be trying to sound like 50 anyway i'm, lyrical niggas. He even be trying to sound like 50. Anyway, I'm off of that.
Starting point is 02:01:26 I was listening to that interview in the shower. That game, that game Nori shit. A lot of ads came up. Start patting myself on the back. Long ads,
Starting point is 02:01:38 dude. Drum breaks. Instrumentals. They had instrumentals come up for 90 cents. I was like, yo, what the fuck is going on thank god man y'all
Starting point is 02:01:46 don't give us enough credit for no yeah they really don't they don't they don't they don't they do not but i don't think they really understand it and i know no no yes no that's not true they understand it because a couple of them listen to different podcasts i clicked play on one to listen i was like god damn can i fast forward i don't want to hear none of this i just want to hear the talking what do y'all think about Jack Harlow doing White Men Can't Jump? I'll try to sound happy about it. I wish...
Starting point is 02:02:11 They gotta stop doing remakes, yo. I'm sick of it. I'm 50-50 on remakes. Tell Silk Sonic. Silk Sonic, man. Hey, just remake whatever now. I'm cool. I don't want to see that shit so you know why
Starting point is 02:02:31 I'm not mad at remakes is because you got how long ago was white man ketchup what was that 92 probably somewhere in there
Starting point is 02:02:39 so that's 30 years that's 30 years ago it's a whole group of people that's never like... Oh, brother. I'm not mad at it.
Starting point is 02:02:47 It's just introducing to a new audience. Create something new. That part. Go create something new then. Go make something that's have the same impact and effect as White Men Can't Jump in 1992. That part. Creativity is gone in movies. In everything.
Starting point is 02:03:04 In movies. It's really gone. I was thinking about this the other day. And this is one of the good things I get from watching Bel-Air. Bel-Air's great. It's one of the things I get from watching Bel-Air. You watch it?
Starting point is 02:03:15 It's great, yeah. It's great. Told you. It's one of the things I get from watching it. They took the premise of Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. But that's a totally different show. For. But that's a totally different show. For sure.
Starting point is 02:03:27 Like that's a totally different show. It got 20 year problems. The problems that exist today weren't really prevalent back then. You know what I'm saying? This is a whole different show. But it is. So they also don't call it a reboot.
Starting point is 02:03:39 It's not a reboot. It's not a reboot. You don't think? His name is Will Smith. It's a reboot. It's a reboot. It's a reboot. Jeffrey Hillary. It's a a reboot. It's not a reboot. You don't think? His name is Will Smith. It's a reboot. It's a reboot, Joe. It's a reboot. Jeffrey, Hillary.
Starting point is 02:03:48 It's a remix to me. But it's not a reboot. So a reboot has to stick to the same. So if they do White Man Can't Jump today, it's going to be different. This is an entirely different story. Genre. They had to write. Yeah, it's not even the same genre.
Starting point is 02:04:02 It's not a different story. It's not a different story. It's the same storyline. It's the same story, different genre. Same storyline. It's not the same story. Yeah, it's not even the same genre. It's not a different story. It's not a different story. It's the same storyline. It's the same story, different genre. Same storyline. It's not the same story. Yes, it is. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 02:04:10 He got in trouble in Philly. He had to move out there because the niggas in Philly was going to get him. Storyline's the same, Joe. No, the concept is the same. It's a new story. It's not the same story. It expands more. There's nothing about this that is the same outside of character and concept.
Starting point is 02:04:24 How they delve, a writing room needed to happen. For a CD, I had to go write this. Like, write new shit. Not, we are, you're Will, you're Hillary, you know what they did. This is what we're doing. Like, All in Time Saved by the Bell came back. It was the same shit, just in a different place. Same shit.
Starting point is 02:04:38 They didn't change. This is a whole different show. And it's a great one, too. It's great. I told you that was dope. I told you it was dope. Now I sound like they're paying me. Pe it's a great one, too. It's great. I told you that was dope. This is great. I told you it was dope. Now I sound like they're paying me.
Starting point is 02:04:48 Peacock, I got a check, yo. I'm going to hold you. No, I told you. Too many subscribers. Come on. Come on. Just send it. But like, so I get it from the business side.
Starting point is 02:04:56 You said Peacock got a check. But I'm just saying like- They could do this with White Men Can't Jump. We watching some dope black shit like this. We need to push this. NBC owns it. It's their shit. It's still called something different.
Starting point is 02:05:07 I'm just saying, I think that white men can't jump. If you get the right writers, they can do this. Like Martin is coming back for that reunion or whatever they're doing. But this ain't nothing new. It's just y'all are y'all and what's going on. We'll see. These niggas don't even look like none of the old characters. They had to recast
Starting point is 02:05:25 different they cast different they cast i think they purposely cast it different i think they purposely did that like i think they went against all the societal norms of what beauty is what you know i'm saying they're doing and they're doing they're doing a really good job uh introducing all of the water cooler topics, all of the social justice. They did a great job of touching it all. They did.
Starting point is 02:05:51 They do. I'm getting off this real good. I'm sad Abbott's Elementary is going to the end of the month, but whatever. I might go catch up. Abbott Elementary. Oh, that'll be quick.
Starting point is 02:06:02 I'm caught up. You'll do that one day. That's great. All right. What else is super important? Ice, our worlds are colliding. Epic Games bought Bandcamp. What do you think about that from a gamer kind of perspective?
Starting point is 02:06:16 I'm interested to see how this plays out, man. I mean, I think it's great. Epic does Fortnite, right? Yeah. And we've seen These worlds Kind of blending For a minute now
Starting point is 02:06:28 So I'm just trying to see Is this going to mean Placement for certain Like I want to see Where this goes Me too because There would be a lot of Bandcamp for those
Starting point is 02:06:37 That don't know Is mostly independent artists The people I play on this podcast Really Kind of thrive over there It's a place where you can Buy music easily Which is not
Starting point is 02:06:44 Common anymore You can do it on iTunes But everyone else You got to Put it to your computer Stick it with your phone really kind of thrive over there. It's a place where you can buy music easily, which is not common anymore. You can do it on iTunes, but everyone else, you got to put it to your computer, sync it with your phone, all types of shit. You can buy it, put it right in your phone from Bandcamp.
Starting point is 02:06:53 So I'm just curious to see what's going to happen. Like, I hope they don't change the model over there. I hope they kind of leave it untouched, but maybe integrate it into their stuff. But anytime there's a big corporate merge like this, it scares me a little bit. I'm going to be watching this.
Starting point is 02:07:07 I don't have anything yet because I don't know which way this is going. So I'm going to watch this and see where we go. But like I said, Epic has been like I said, delving into music. They're having concerts inside the game. This could be
Starting point is 02:07:24 the next step. I agree. So I'm watching this closely to see where it game like this could be the next step i agree so i'm watching this closely it could be a lot of opportunities for like i said the independent artists i love it potentially i wanted to ask you what you thought about um uh the pga the golf they tiger one this is the inaugural it's called the player impact program that they had so what they did was the athletes that generate the most interest in the actual sport okay actually won um monetarily huh and tiger was at the top of the list i think it went like eight million or something just they they was it an actual tournament or it was like no no no no something. They keep track of... Was it an actual tournament or was it like a world show type thing? No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:08:06 They keep track of the searches involving your name, just how much traffic your name is bringing to the sport. And then they bust you down with something? And they bust you down with something for it.
Starting point is 02:08:17 That's pretty interesting. Really? That's pretty interesting. Oh, what if they did this 10 years ago? Tiger would have been busted down retroactively. Yeah. Cause it says here,
Starting point is 02:08:27 uh, Tiger was the Phil Mickelson to claim the $8 million first prize with the top 10 players getting payments from the $40 million fund. huh? So they, they, so Tiger got 20% of the whole shit. See,
Starting point is 02:08:41 that's real pressure. Yo, that's crazy. The real pressure. That's crazy. We'll be talking about pressure, that's real pressure, yo. That's crazy. The real pressure. That's crazy. Niggas be talking about pressure. This is real pressure. Like, imagine being Tiger Woods
Starting point is 02:08:51 and you have to beat Phil Mickelson career-wise. And Phil is him, really. Acknowledged as him throughout golf world. Like, he was the one. So they still have to do that. You got to look on the other side.
Starting point is 02:09:10 This is like Jay and Nas times a billion, yo. Like imagine some of them. What's the good to this niggas fucking that we used to watch? Raphael, Nadal versus... When your rivalry is somebody that is like the best in the world.
Starting point is 02:09:29 And if you don't be the best in the world, you ain't shit. That is pressure, yo. The thing I like about this particular challenge they have is it don't matter how you perform. It's all about the traffic that you generate. Yep, that's it. Social media, fan engagement, you could come in dead last and still win. And that's why I said you generated the most buzz about the sport. So, dog, if they would have been paying for this for the last 15 years, dog, Tiger Woods was the epitome of golf.
Starting point is 02:10:02 That is true. was the epitome of golf. That is true. Like in the old school like fan duels of yesteryear, dog, it used to be Tiger versus the field. Right. So you could bet on Tiger Woods
Starting point is 02:10:13 or the whole field, my nigga. Like that's how impactful he was on the sport of golf. Shit, take it somewhere else. Imagine if the NFL did this, what Colin would have done, Kaepernick would have done in 2018,
Starting point is 02:10:24 the amount of social engagement she brought. Or LeBron for the NBA. Or, you know what I'm saying? Like, now you paying me. I just like to put their foot in their mouth. Nah, it's dope. I like somebody starting this. Oh, they gonna shut this down.
Starting point is 02:10:37 How would they put their foot in their mouth? Because if you had to pay the biggest person, the person that's giving the most engagement to your sport in your sport, the most press coverage, the most social media coverage, and he's going against your sport. They kicked him out of the sport.
Starting point is 02:10:50 Yeah, but he was still in there when he first started. Yeah. And then they kicked him out. So they wouldn't honor someone if they kicked him out. We're not saying retroactive. We're saying if this program
Starting point is 02:11:01 was in place when he started, Tyga would have made a shit ton of money. You don't fucking know. All right, you're telling me the NFL would have turned around and paid Kaepernick. No.
Starting point is 02:11:09 Well, we don't even think that would have happened. Hypothetically, man. Yeah, we ain't. They wouldn't have done it hypothetically. They would have never. That's why. They would have never paid him. Ever.
Starting point is 02:11:18 No, they wouldn't do it to anybody. They wouldn't pay Mahomes. They wouldn't pay Brady. They wouldn't pay Rodgers. They wouldn't pay nobody in the NFL for this. You crazy? Impact Award. You better get that first down.
Starting point is 02:11:30 Put your helmet on, boy, and get your ass out there. I think it's dope. Nah, it's dope. It's a cool concept. It's a dope concept. It's something different. Yeah. Some niggas you just think would be smoother on the voicemail, right?
Starting point is 02:11:42 That nigga just was not smooth. Hey, it's me, Tiger. Oh, hell. Red Cafe wouldn't do that. It's enough. Huh? It's enough. That?
Starting point is 02:11:59 Oh, me? You're saying? Oh, that? Yeah. No. That was enough. On the voicemail? It's enough
Starting point is 02:12:05 worth a billion dollars no when he said that that was wild she's taping you to give to press outlets and your wife yo I need you to delete
Starting point is 02:12:14 that any messages you have from my wife is going through my phone and she got your number and there's a tree in your yard I'm like fam was wild
Starting point is 02:12:23 you can tell nobody would have nobody would have a tree in their yard wakes up and think one day yard. Fam was wild. You can tell he wasn't used to that. Nobody with a tree in their yard wakes up and thinks, one day, I'm going to just smash right into that shit. What's wrong with you? Some niggas might actually wake up. Who? Who?
Starting point is 02:12:40 Who? The niggas that's tied to all this. Oh, please. There's mad trees in granddaddy yard. And the whole family, all the niggas''s tied to all this oh please there's mad trees in granddaddy yard and the whole family all the niggas uncles was high as hell they dodged that shit quick
Starting point is 02:12:50 nobody just thinks I'm out yeah no one's there muscle memory drunk as a skull drive way down to granddaddy house
Starting point is 02:12:57 and something was like it was tight they was getting a big Cadillac through that shit high on crack nigga the fuck the fuck is you talking about?
Starting point is 02:13:05 Rest in peace, Uncle Billy. He was getting out of there. I'm talking about a nigga that intentionally wants to hit the tree, Joe. That's what I'm talking about. You know what would humble LA? I'm all over the place. The big one? LA, Los Angeles.
Starting point is 02:13:18 The big one. And all them people out there. The big one would humble them. The big one? Yeah. Or Big T? No. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:13:24 The shaky, shaky. Yeah. Talk big one? Yeah. Of Big T? No. No, no, no, no. The shaky, shaky. Yeah. Talk about an earthquake. He's a fool. They've been predicting for years that the big one is coming. Nah, you know. This guy's a fool. Living here.
Starting point is 02:13:33 You take it from the Joe Budden bag. Go ahead. I'm listening. Go ahead, Joe. What would humble LA? A subway system. A subway system? A man?
Starting point is 02:13:43 Just think about it. They trying? No, I don't want to about it they trying that's not happening they never gonna do that but listen the subway the subway system in New York
Starting point is 02:13:50 is now the home of the mentally ill like you come down here you might get learned some shit in your face I seen a lady
Starting point is 02:13:59 kicked this lady was talking shit to this lady that was sitting down she just kicked her kicked her to the tracks. Nigga, shut up.
Starting point is 02:14:06 Get your ass on the tracks. Yo, who the fuck? She was so humble. That's not funny. Nobody has to help her. She just kicked her in the tracks. Fam, you know how we always say today, niggas got to get punched in the face, but they don't? The subway in New York, it teaches you how to, who to, somebody can be right there, somebody.
Starting point is 02:14:24 They don't be doing that camera shit in the subway in LA where everybody think they somebody some of them fucking waiters every time hey you gotta take the train home all right real awakening you'll you'll fix your fucking mouth the next time buddy all right they don't do that camera shit in the subway no they do all that Hollywood shit upstairs. Out there, but they ain't got to go downstairs.
Starting point is 02:14:48 Do that on the platform. No, they don't do that shit upstairs. Come downstairs on the platform. Fifth Avenue, Madison, all that. They don't do that shit downstairs.
Starting point is 02:14:54 A few months ago, nigga tried to hop the turnstile and fell. He died. Oh, shit. You seen it. Died.
Starting point is 02:15:02 Y'all keep playing with... See? We talked about it on the pod. Get humble, nigga. Get humble. Hey, your knee You seen it. Died. Y'all keep playing with... See? We talked about it on the pod. Get humble, nigga. Get humble. Hey, your knee's working good. You might try some shit you did all your life. But the turnstile ain't...
Starting point is 02:15:14 But this... How you died? He got caught. They got everybody aimed. The most agile people. I'm just... I can see getting bumped up. I don't see how you would...
Starting point is 02:15:21 All right. All right. Damn. I didn't know that happened. The subway learned him? See, because you don't see how you would. All right. Right. Damn. I didn't know that happened. The subway learned them. See, cause you don't have New York one. New York one.
Starting point is 02:15:32 New 12 ain't covered. I'll tell you a lot of shit that's going on. That's a fact. Uh, but anyway, uh, what else is super important? We've covered all music and I don't even care.
Starting point is 02:15:41 Do y'all care about, uh, Twitter having a podcast? Hey, no. Is that just, uh, spaces? music and I don't even care. Do y'all care about Twitter having a podcast tab? Nope. Is that just Spaces? Yeah. I thought so.
Starting point is 02:15:53 I hope it's good. They be trying. I hope it's good. That's all I have to say about it. Twitter is building a tab dedicated to podcasts as shown in the screenshot posted by the reverse engineer. The image shows a microphone icon in the Twitter posted by the reverse engineer the image shows a microphone icon in the twitter app's bottom menu bar which appears to lead to a page titled podcast
Starting point is 02:16:11 what does that mean do we know yet yeah it means you could fucking get a look of any podcast or like a clip you can put your content that you own on their shit, sign off on whatever they say, and then they'll use your shit however they want without paying you. And throw some ads on it for you. Right. Yeah, but you get audience. It's Twitter. We got everybody.
Starting point is 02:16:36 We're paying you an engagement. Gotcha. Didn't Vince just tell us about this? Paying for the look. Look at that. Round of applause. Full circle. For real.
Starting point is 02:16:47 And there's a bunch of people that are gonna do it that are gonna do it they need to look like the lower font people on the flyer you can't say no to some shit
Starting point is 02:16:55 y'all need all the audience you can get know where all the audience is here we got it so get over here yeah
Starting point is 02:17:02 ta-da it's not a bad thing necessarily not necessarily hopefully they from whose perspective eventually do the right thing right here. We got it. So get over here. Yeah. Ta-da! It's not a bad thing, necessarily. Not necessarily. Hopefully they eventually do the right thing. If you use it for a short period of time to get hot and then you go somewhere else
Starting point is 02:17:14 where you can get a bag. Hey, some of the companies told me, hey, we want you off YouTube. Alright, great. Pay me for every subscriber. I'll leave right now. Why y'all think y'all get to do it? Y'all do it and don't tell people. But when we find out,
Starting point is 02:17:34 we doing it too. Y'all know what the value of every user is to y'all. They come over here, whether it's an ad or not ad, whether they subscribe or not. They know what anybody worth. Each day. So why the fuck would I give up my million people
Starting point is 02:17:50 over there just on a strength just to sign off on some shit? No, babe. They left. Like, oh shit, he knows too much. They opted out of that one. Nah, he know too much. Y'all ready for the Versus documentary? And not just he know too much, but I don't need to versus documentary? And not just the documentary, but I
Starting point is 02:18:05 don't need to do this. Yo, I got a million new niggas over here that I can just take their shit. I don't have to have this conversation with
Starting point is 02:18:11 you. Do you think it's a do it for free? Versus what you're saying now? The versus doc. You ain't hit it with the hello?
Starting point is 02:18:29 Hello? Break the story. Go ahead. go ahead yeah go ahead they're doing a uh lena waithe is doing a documentary on versus the the rise of versus y'all do know that y'all can't allow these long moments of silence on the podcast. So when I don't have anything to say about the topic, one of you have to, if you introduce, you have to say something about this. I thought I was rocking with the pod guy. You were saying solidarity? I was just, you know what I'm saying? I don't see the need for this yet. There.
Starting point is 02:19:03 I'll say it. I thought the podcast was going to get in. Salute to everybody involved. Get paid. Do whatever y'all got to do. I don't see the need for this. We were there.
Starting point is 02:19:13 It was just a year or two years ago. We saw it. This isn't something like, oh, y'all don't know how this. No, no, no. We saw it. Yeah, maybe you can explain
Starting point is 02:19:23 to Lena Waithe. Well, y'all already. I'm trying not to say nothing. Y'all know. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, maybe you can explain to Lena Waithe. Well, y'all already. I'm trying not to say nothing. Y'all know. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:30 Don't get. All right. All right. We are back. Man. We are back. Full stomach is so nice, yo. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:38 Nourishment. Like, nutrients. Yeah, all of that. Yeah, all of that shit, yo. All of that. Nothing like a well-placed cut. Keep saying something. You know what I mean? Yeah like a well-placed cut. Keep saying something. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:19:46 Yeah. A well-placed what? I don't even know what you're talking about. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, nothing. Yeah, yeah, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. What else is important?
Starting point is 02:19:54 I think this Morris Day news is pretty important. Yeah. Fill me in. It's huge. Yeah, I read about that. Morris Day, who got his start with Prince, Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis, all that, right? He put out a post saying that he is no longer allowed to use his name, Morris Day. In the time.
Starting point is 02:20:20 Well, it wasn't specific if it was just Morris Day or he can't put it together, Morris Day and the Time. Either way, he should be able to do both. He said he can't tour. I've given 40 years of my life building up a name and legacy that Prince and I came up with. A name that while he was alive, he had no problem with me using. I literally put my blood, sweat, and tears into bringing value to that name. In fact, he booked me on several tours and many jam-packed nights at Paisley Park under the name Morris Day and the Time, not once ever saying to
Starting point is 02:20:51 me that I couldn't use that name configuration. However, now that Prince is no longer with us, suddenly, the people who control his multi-million dollar estate want to rewrite history by taking my name away from me, thus impacting how I feed my family. So as of now, per the Prince Estate, I can no longer use Morris Day and the time in any capacity. What the fuck? Word. That's sad shit.
Starting point is 02:21:21 Yeah, it's crazy. It's a lesson in it, though. Give it to us. Mature us out. Yo, yo, ass. Never mind, man. No, no. If you don't say one, I'm going to say one.
Starting point is 02:21:32 It don't matter. Fam, so now younger kids coming up in the game, they start trademarking their own shit. They start doing a whole bunch of shit that some motherfuckers from 40 and 50 years ago didn't know to do. It's a lesson in that that morris day in the time he's performed he's been in purple rain under the cherry moon and all them fucking movies with that him his group they are only known as morris day in the time so now try
Starting point is 02:21:56 booking him somewhere calling him something else good luck with that who that is yep good luck with that he can't feed his family based off that. So it's a lesson in that. That shit is whack. And it seems like, because I hate it. It says in any capacity, so it can't even be like the artist formally or the group formally.
Starting point is 02:22:13 You know what I'm saying? Any of that. I can't use it at all? It's fucked up. Based on what? I mean, we don't know what it's based on, but as the information that we have,
Starting point is 02:22:23 that's some bullshit. Well, we know what it's based on. I mean, you can't know what it's based on, but as the information that we have, that's some bullshit. Well, we know what it's based on. I mean, you could read this and figure out that the contract between him and Prince included some things. Yeah. Or the contract between him and Prince was more of a mutual understanding. No. I'm listening. It's not a mutual understanding.
Starting point is 02:22:49 it's not a mutual understanding prince was in control of the rights which is why he said yo never while prince was alive would he oppose he didn't say that because hey my friend likes my name he said that because you know the person that my contract is with just bypassed that shit yeah it was in there but he ain't give a fuck about that but ownership is is longer than your life i know it's perpetual and that's and that's that's where the lesson is for me if i own the rights to ish when i die whoever gets my shit owns the rights to ish and now they're calling the shots and they could be totally different i agree which means that in life he and prince had an understanding. You know what the understanding is?
Starting point is 02:23:28 It ain't got to really be an understanding. No, see, stop, stop, stop. I want to dispel that shit right here. You know when I know we have an understanding? When you go put it on paper. The paper's the understanding. And now, I'm not speaking to this because this is in the 80s. I can't speak to the climate, the relationship.
Starting point is 02:23:46 I can't speak to none of that. But the larger view is hey, I hear you. Write it. Just put it there for me to sign. I agree. So hopefully today, you know, we get more
Starting point is 02:24:02 information. We have a better understanding. Like you said, people in control of their rights. That's the thing. And you want to continue to preach how important ownership is because this shit continues to come up. I see some fans out there. Oh, the ownership. These guys talk about that at least twice every podcast. You fucking right.
Starting point is 02:24:15 You fucking right. I'm never. I will never not. I will never not because I keep watching y'all be stupid. And I was stupid. And we all be stupid at some point. Know how you remain stupid not talking about it right and not learning from not learning from either somebody else's somebody else's
Starting point is 02:24:31 imagine morris day at his age i don't know how old he is i don't want to look it up this is a grown grown man y'all know that because we talked about his first single feature in big daddy came which was you guessed it grown ass man that's what the name of the song. This nigga's a grown man who was touring. He never stopped touring. I saw him with my own eyes. I don't remember if Jerome was there or not. Maybe not, but he just has never stopped.
Starting point is 02:24:57 So to say you can't do it now. Or you gotta do it now. And now I don't have a relationship. No, you can't do it at all. I'm calling the owners, the people that's controlling the rights. I'm texting. Do I know somebody? I'm trying to get it right.
Starting point is 02:25:10 No. Oh, no, you could do it. You just got to do it under your real name. Right. That's horrible. Who the fuck booking Alvin Johnson or whatever? You know what I'm saying? Nobody's doing that.
Starting point is 02:25:20 You can't sell out no arena with that. This to me is the same as anita baker fighting for her shit de la soul like man it just sucks that are the people that found a way to do it for 40 years yeah that's the hard part you put a new hurdle up yeah i've been doing this shit for 40 like religiously this is all i've been doing. This is it. This is me. And now somebody else is going to step in. All right, it's over. Can't do that.
Starting point is 02:25:51 Nothing you can do about it. Sad. That's crazy. It's like when you find out that fucking, oh, you think you're fighting this machine, but five years into the fight, you learn that this machine is owned by this machine oh i'm fighting them too you spend another five years fighting that machine and then you learn oh oh this person owns y'all all right it's up for them spend six years fighting over there nah but then the ce the CEO of that gave X, Y, Z amount of money to the judge.
Starting point is 02:26:29 Nigga, go home. Nick Cannon fighting with NBC. Everybody on the internet. Everybody in the memes. All the black people. Oh, my God. It's a joke. It's a joke in hip-hop.
Starting point is 02:26:43 Every time somebody about to get blackballed or fucked up or lose some money, he was trying to buy NBC. It's a joke in hip-hop. Every time somebody about to get blackballed or fucked up or lose some money, he was trying to buy NBC. It's a joke in hip-hop. At no point do they ever say, oh, General Electric owns NBC. Oh, you think you're fighting them? You fighting the niggas that make jet fuel. Refrigerators. Yo, they really don't care. What are you doing?
Starting point is 02:27:09 Wait, nigga, what show? It's nasty. I said something similar to that in our baby argument. That, yo, these people be so high up. Like, damn, who? Who's that? Oh. We didn't really give them a weekend podcast today, yo.
Starting point is 02:27:30 We didn't. We didn't. We didn't give them a weekend podcast. Hey, look, our intentions were there, just so that y'all know. We came in and said we were going to give them a weekend pod. We didn't, yo. We went a little off the rails. We didn't.
Starting point is 02:27:40 I would have much rather. Drop some jewels. Yeah, but I do a pod with a bunch of dudes That don't know what women Have saved them in their phones As in the past So I mean you can't have no fun You know I just don't care
Starting point is 02:27:52 How y'all don't know What not one girl had you Did they give you an emoji? When I'm asleep y'all I don't look through When they sleep I don't look through Yeah I don't know what's going on In her phone
Starting point is 02:28:00 I don't care You talking to me Just be clear You talking to me man I know you. You talking to me, man. I know. You like the fans, so you want to hold me to everything I did at 26, but I'm 41. I'm an adult. I'm a grown man.
Starting point is 02:28:13 How do you know she got you on her phone, ass? I told, well, oh. She screenshotted it, sent it to you. She deleted that shit as soon as that screen went through, that shot went through. That's what I'm saying. That shit works. I got my face nigga Go ahead
Starting point is 02:28:25 She told you right She told you These guys She told you right You daddy in my phone No I've been daddy in the phone Can I get some Chanel's now I know
Starting point is 02:28:35 It's cool It's cool You got it Daddy in the phone And she made you saw it No no no And she made you saw it You saw it
Starting point is 02:28:42 I think I see with it You daddy in the phone Can I get some more Chanel That's. Oh, there's daddy in the phone. Can I get some more Chanel? That's how you got to be daddy in the phone. I hate talking to niggas that don't understand the game about the game. So what? That's how I got my daddy.
Starting point is 02:28:58 I bought some Chanel, nigga. Good. Now what you hating about? I'm not hating at all. Then shut the fuck up. I'm daddy in the phone. That was my point. Here you come. Why you a daddy? How you got to be daddy. Then shut the fuck up. I'm daddy in the phone. That was my point. I keep on- Here you come. Why you a daddy then?
Starting point is 02:29:06 How you got to be daddy? Nigga, what was you? Antoine? Ish. The fuck out of here. My five grand and my- You never got an emoji? What the fuck you talking about?
Starting point is 02:29:14 You never got an emoji though. I don't got to pay for nicknames. Nigga, I got one. Yo, this nigga be so tough till we take the long walk in the strip club and leave me and Ice at the bar for about 45 minutes alone. Boy.
Starting point is 02:29:25 Boy. Boy. Boy is he tough until that. You laughing like that is something that really happens. No, that never happened. I know.
Starting point is 02:29:32 No, it was just funny. I'm just fine in sleep, yo. I got sweatpants with no drawers. Come on, man. Stop, yo. I don't feel like going. What's wrong with you?
Starting point is 02:29:38 You're always picking a fight. You're so right, bro. No, nigga. I go to the strip club and have came. Yo, please play a sleeper doll. The fuck did y'all talk? You're not exposing me.
Starting point is 02:29:47 I come in there. Don't tell me what my $20 was good for. This nigga's different, yo. The fuck did y'all talk about? Had to run to the bathroom. The man was in there, too, that wanted to tell you about all the soaps. Boom, nigga, I came myself. Don't tell me about the little colognes, nigga. I ain't trying to smell good. He was trying to clean you up, man, nigga, I can't myself. Don't tell me about the little
Starting point is 02:30:05 colognes, nigga. I ain't trying to smell good. He was trying to clean you up, man. I'll clean myself up. It's fine. Gang members in the stall, you can't rush them. They'll shoot you through the door. Hell, nigga, I just wait for that. Yo. You go in that Starless bathroom, nigga. It's an experience.
Starting point is 02:30:21 There's always some new gang members in there. Nasty. Alright, now, let me get to my shit. My sleeper is from, you guessed it, drum roll, please. Horrible drum roll. A deluxe album. Silk Sonic? My fault.
Starting point is 02:30:41 Go ahead, Joe. Is Dope Boy on the same label as Silk Sonic? I want to be respectful of his label silk sonic yo it's only Parks that's still pumping this silk sonic you and Bruno
Starting point is 02:30:52 Anderson stopped doing that shit he did the super bowl he was off that shit oh yeah nah I'm not playing with you today I'm not playing
Starting point is 02:31:02 with you today right off of deluxe my girl friend of the show where she at there it is uh-oh uh-oh i know parks ice you said all i all me and ish do is play the sleepy music niggas can't fuck to save your life. Shut the fuck up. Hey, you keep fucking the stove guard cooks, all right? Have a blast with that one. Let me know. But this right here?
Starting point is 02:31:31 Uh-oh. Ice, don't worry about it. This ain't real. No, shut up, nigga. Don't talk. Don't say shit. I'm not worried about it. Then you stay.
Starting point is 02:31:38 Don't say shit. I'm not worried about it. I'm not worried about it. Beautiful music, goddammit Uh-oh I like to stay Till I own it You can't bring me down
Starting point is 02:31:57 I'm the sun, baby, I shine on it Alex, I see you shazamming back there, don't worry about it Just let this one rock, don't worry about it Shout out to Seven The light takes all the pretty bitches with the flash up Head for jewelry, singing sad songs Knowledge, ain't go to college But it's approved for the cash, yo Truth be told, I could fall thousand times This high
Starting point is 02:32:40 Don't hope for tomorrow When you lost today So I feel like my pick up My bitches hop in the wheel Black car, black truck Hollywood sign in the back door All my hoes fine in the back door I got it, crook on my neck, crook on my lip My chain low, crook on my neck Crook on my neck, my chain low Cook on my neck, cook on my lip, my chain low
Starting point is 02:33:06 Under my bed, over my head, halo Can't pass up my sins, all I see is rainbows Fly on em, fly on em You can't bring me down I'm the sun, baby, I shine on em Do-do-do Do-do-do I shine on them I like to stay on them Fly on them
Starting point is 02:33:35 You can't bring me down I'm the sun, baby I shine on them This is beautiful. Shout out to 7-Eleven. We love you. This record is called High Life 7th Street,
Starting point is 02:33:49 a deluxe album on your phone right now. Mmm. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, All right. Come on, Ice.
Starting point is 02:34:11 Give me some Nardo Wick. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Parks will give me some Droog. Droog didn't put on tape today, so. I know. I'm not playing Droog. I know you'll give me some Droog. I know you and Ice sleepers, yo.
Starting point is 02:34:23 I'm actually playing. It's only me and Ish that's actually trying to discover Sleeping artists Yeah I'm trying to put people to sleep No we're trying to help people discover music My bad you're correct Anyway this is Let Me Know You're trying to watch a bunch of young black artists kill each other from the comfort of your living room
Starting point is 02:34:38 This is Let Me Know of Kodak Black's new album Back for Everything Why is Supergirl being so hard? Kodak Black's new album, Back For Everything. Yeah, what's up, man? Why is Supergrimmin' so hard? You're out of mind, you're out of luck It's like nobody even care if you be round Why I fall out with my niggas when I'm up? Why nobody stand up for me when I'm down? You back in jail and they time they say you stuck Everybody laughing at you like a clown Why I don't own the time you hate me when I'm up? And why I don't own the time you love me when I'm down? Why I lost Best New Artist to Khalid 2017?
Starting point is 02:35:23 We all knew that shit would be me But I never hated, why I lost Best New Artist to Khalid 2017? We all knew that should've been me But I never hated, I congratulated Shit, at least I was nominated But if Cardi B win, then I want to I do it for the real niggas cause I want to The fact I made it out this shit like they be going through Make them feel like if I win, then they want to The buddy got punked, some niggas in his squad too
Starting point is 02:35:44 And why them niggas turn around and say they know it's you? Keep it real, why the hell I wanna harm you? When everything I drop, they say they want a part too I heard the beans got dropped and they went and pointed you I'm like, man, how the fuck I'm behind bars too And I'm writing these bars behind bars too Looking at the TV like, damn, that could've been all you I wanna be front and center and do awards too I wanna be Count Skriller and Livin' Lords
Starting point is 02:36:07 too Hoppin' out rentals and switchin' cars too Sippin' down pee with my niggas and flippin' bras too I guess I'm too gangster to win the Grammy And only the gangsters could understand me Niggas who live by the code, we speak the same language They love to hear me flow, I speak that shit fluent If I was you, I would've killed me and you knew it You had a chance and you blew it Codex, why you always got pain in your music?
Starting point is 02:36:33 I be feeling like I got the same nigga through it Why these niggas always sign the same in their music? Rapping about their money and their chains in their music I be duffin' road, runnin', got this runner here from Hertz I'm conditioned, train myself to stay authentic And be curt I'm duffin' road, runnin' Got this runner here from Hearst
Starting point is 02:36:50 Conditioned, train myself to stay authentic And be pure They wanna see me die, wanna see me cry They wanna see me smirk My nigga die, but it ain't hurt I love my nigga, baby daddy I know he just wanna see me happy I'm walkin' up out the feds like, is you
Starting point is 02:37:06 ready? I'm stackin' up all this bread, I made a sandwich They wanna see me dead, they wanna see me mannish My mama told me, baby, keep it steady Stop postin' on the corner like you average You ain't no regular nigga, you got status Wrecked the porch, then I pulled up in that Ashton She keep smokin' dick cause she a addict I'ma keep her round cause she got talent
Starting point is 02:37:28 I came on 21 cause I'm a savage If you ain't tryna keep me, let me live If you ain't tryna stay, then let me go Before you let me hear any script You should go ahead and let me know I just want for you to let me know, son Lately I ain't really been too sure I just want for you to let me know, son
Starting point is 02:37:50 I just want for you to let me know That was Let Me Know, Kodak Black. Fuck with it. How's the album? I love the album. Yeah? Yeah. A lot of people told me,
Starting point is 02:38:03 they was like, yo yo This is not your Your usual Kodak Like On the wild shit Like he's Yeah you can hear in the intro That was the intro track by the way Oh okay
Starting point is 02:38:12 As you can hear in the intro Like he Putting his pain out there Like He was talking Going through it He was talking Yeah I like this though
Starting point is 02:38:18 Shouts to Kodak We'll play some legends man Cool G rapping Alchemist dropped a single Day Diesel You know I've tripped A lot of guys in my life We'll play some legends, man. Cool G rapping, Alchemist, drop a single today, Diesel. You know, I've clipped a lot of guys in my life. Close friends.
Starting point is 02:38:32 Guys I didn't know. I didn't always agree that the guys should be clipped. But I never questioned the orders. And I never went off half-cocked. I gotta get back in the streets. That's where all the money used to beed From a kid alone, a timid to this grown image From the pot pie cartoons to that grown spinach A young man prone to business, he his own chemist Three-quarter main stone pendants, a stone menace Sleeping with red-boned twins, tech with a chrome finish
Starting point is 02:39:01 Parking the bins, dark Tennessee, getting domed in it Massive rocks turn city blocks to stone hinges Stone dependents, they visit at methadone clinics Heavy breadwinner, every kid in my zone mimic Keys to the city, chase every dollar that roam in it Life too short, numbers up, guard on loan minutes Summer CRP, soon as this poem ended Hey you shut up! I'm moving diesel on em You just listen I'm moving diesel on em
Starting point is 02:39:28 You gotta get back in the streets I'm moving diesel on em I'm gonna kill myself Got red DNA in my jugular, I'm a born hustler You was born to be in my service, you's a born butler I'm from the trenches with paper touchers and long tuckers I'm big red hanging niggas from the 11th floor Settle scores, your selling whore is Eleanor
Starting point is 02:39:47 Jimmy clean hands what you claiming a felon for they gon find you in yellow drawers when the metal draw decompose like Skeletor with his Melon tour I'm from that place where shady faces and lady rapers empty frigerators cribs with cold radiators low wages and front page of the paper makers Got that behavior like every one of your neighbors hate ya Drug dealers be the role models, they money stars Inside the bar, throw a hundred yards in your honey bra That's how the beep shit pop off in the gun and star
Starting point is 02:40:16 Life trials be the lifestyle in these slummy bars I guess you made him a rich fuckin' man I'm movin' Diesel on him That's Diesel, Cool G Rap Alchemist. Ish, what you got for us today? I saw, actually, we got to watch the Dick Gregory doc.
Starting point is 02:40:34 That shit was crazy. Oh, where is that at? You know I ain't good with that shit. Oh, okay. I forgot. I think it might be HBO Max, but that shit was crazy. For sure.
Starting point is 02:40:42 This Black Thoughts song played at the end. It's called At Your Service I know now That there is a universal force That controls the whole thing All the things you want coming One day it's gonna balance out all of our
Starting point is 02:40:57 Letters It's gonna be a simple question Not how much money did you make was you funny Did they like you Who was your mother who was your father Where did you live what money did you make was you funny did they like you who was your mother who was your father where did you live what school did you go to where did you send your kids how much service did you give to your family tactical and strategic practical and collegiate Enough to know if you read it, don't mean you need it
Starting point is 02:41:29 I follow proper procedure, and get my money right off top like alopecia I see what's trending was truly the end of an era But it's forever or never, I'm ever and ever I am the pendetta that's never been better than ever Guterres, incredible incredible, clever perspective is meta Y'all niggas need to get it together like birds of a feather I pin the words of an egger I'll approach cause I go for broke, whether or not it's for mo
Starting point is 02:41:56 Cheddar cause I am a go-getter Loaded lines, my bars bear the burden, I've been in the gym overtime No cause for disturbing my overgrind And moving on me gets you immobilized My rhymes superhuman, I've been next to immortalized The honorable, I come right at you comical clowns And break it down into particles and molecules So trying me is trying the impossible Slingshots to a monster that keep thoughts in the awesome. I would like to say thank you very much. And I really think it's a good time to quit. You probably won't miss me at all.
Starting point is 02:42:32 Because with all them clowns in the white house, they'll keep you in the house for years to come. That's Black Thought at your service from the Dick Gregory Doc. I'm gonna check that out. Yes, dude. Yo, you will find a way to not be youthful. What's Black Thought, you ass. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 02:43:06 He 50, nigga? The fuck you talking about? Every time you say something about one of the backpack legends, Park starts scratching his beard. He starts scratching his eye. Jump over that fucking... But Black Thought is really 50.
Starting point is 02:43:24 Maybe. Not 50, but he up there's really 50. 50. Maybe. Not 50, but he up, dude. Fam. Well, we can Google it. What the fuck? What do you know? 71. 50 years old.
Starting point is 02:43:35 Anyway, I was talking shit anyway. Where we at? Where we at? Where we at? Oh, that was it. Yeah, we done. Oh, we done. Oh, good.
Starting point is 02:43:43 Good, good, good, good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good, good. Good, good, good, good. This nigga was talking too greasy On this shit yo He was talking Greasy on this Yo Huh I hope you enjoyed
Starting point is 02:44:12 This pod I hope you found A way to laugh Through all our Drill conversations Oh Niggas make it hot I make it sizzler
Starting point is 02:44:21 And I don't know You cash So don't you get familiar And if you rally Me and mine, I guarantee I'll pay ya Alright, keep us in your prayers, Lord knows Lord knows, Lord knows I need to be there Them two Until next time, I bid you adieu
Starting point is 02:44:34 Farewell, adios, arriba, derchi, hasta la vista So long, goodbye, au revoir All that good shit Remember, life is a series of moments And moments pass So let's make this one last as if it's all that we have oh the beat drop on the third verse when you talk gotta be quick i don't see how y'all hang i even be wet niggas riding in the bins with only one v6
Starting point is 02:44:57 yo how was y'all doing there yo it was mad it was mad benzes but only one was a b you hear this nigga but i know how it is when you're going to the bar all right man we gone y'all hold it down enjoy your weekend we got 70 degrees dot weather linking and drinking dotting and bopping they probably on their phone they probably don't hear what i'm saying all right we going man, y'all hold it down, same time, same place, next week, you know the fucking vibe. Don't hate me, thank me. Uh oh, no no no, rewind that, don't hate me, thank me. No no no no, rewind it. Rewind it.
Starting point is 02:45:36 All they see is the G from Jules, V's that you prove. B and A on the door, they can wait to see us lose. Don't hate me, thank me. I'm the reason, ayy. Make you cranky, they see me places that you can't be. I'm too reason Hey Hey Frankly You don't really wanna see me fly Do you really wanna hurt me? Or do you really wanna make me cry? Or is it really that you ain't me, Mace? Or you don't really wanna see me fly?
Starting point is 02:46:10 Do you really wanna hurt me? Or do you really wanna make me cry? Or is it really that you ain't me, Mace? Or you don't really wanna see me fly? Do you really wanna hurt me? Or do you really wanna make me cry? Or is it really that you ain't me, Mace? Or do you really wanna see me fly? Do you really wanna see me fly Really wanna hurt me Do you really wanna make me cry
Starting point is 02:46:27 Oh, is it really that you ain't made me Oh, you don't really wanna see me fly No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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