The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 586 | "The Side Main" (feat. Akademiks)
Episode Date: December 14, 2022In this episode, Joe and the guys begin by extending their thoughts to a few legends we lost this week (16:42). Akademiks joins the pod to discuss his current beefs & feud with Yung Miami (30:30). The... Megan thee Stallion & Tory Lanez trial is underway as everyone shares their thoughts about the case and the potential ramifications for either party (42:00). Akademiks shares his pocket watching list for other content creators (1:27:00), the collective debates who is more prominent between Rogan & The Breakfast Club (1:46:44), revisiting Akademiks “I’m the prize” viral video (1:59:40), why he and Meek Mill had beef (2:16:43), Part of the Show (2:25:40), + MORE! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP.: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks: Joe | DESTIN CONRAD - “NOBODY KNOWS” Ice | West Philly Freck - “Carbon Monoxide” Parks | Stalley - “RED LIGHT” Ish | Honey - “Trouble”
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Y'all take ish 20 minutes
to get up off the couch.
Joe, you gotta buy
some higher couches.
Yo, you gotta buy
some higher couches.
These couches
slide you back in here.
No, these shits are,
yeah, bro.
Like a sliding board.
I'm taking a stand
against
modern interpretation of luxury.
And I've been doing this since I found out that if you get enough money for a real nice couch, they only come 12 and 13 off the floor.
They do.
Imagine my look of shock being poor my entire life.
Give me a high couch.
A high joint?
I feel you, though.
I feel you.
I don't want to be on a futon.
What are they doing?
I don't need to be on a futon.
Now I got to do leg workouts to have a nice couch?
They're like, yo, why all these niggas be crossing they legs, nigga?
Because we slide on the couch.
Yeah, it's only to stop the slipping. Yeah, bro. Because we sliding off the couch. It's only to stop the slipping.
Yeah, bro.
We are sliding off the couch, man.
Nigga, I sat on my foot.
European clothes on this American sloppy built body.
European.
Yo, what's wrong with you, yo?
Yeah, just see me trying to get these jeans on.
You just jumping up and shaking.
I told you, yo, I got it on there.
This falls in there. Oh oh I see what you're saying
shut up
mute up
alright
let me put my headphones on
okay
don't
golden sax me to death
this pod
ish
there's silly
cultural hip hop stuff
to get to
tell me about what the insurance companies and JPMorgan and them niggas is doing later.
Okay?
Next week.
Audience, first of all, welcome and thank you for being here.
Let me close my laptop so your view to me is not impeded upon.
Getting sentimental.
Welcome.
Thank you for being here as long as you have. And if you are new here,
couldn't be happier to have you. We are going to unpack some things today.
This is the disclaimer after the disclaimer.
That are coming. No, I'm starting to pause. This is my new start. I don't want to keep
talking, hey, look who's here. It's Gitz. Then I'd sound like you with, hey,
what's your sleeper today?
As the guy playing, it's your sleeper.
I wish they would have never pointed that out to me.
Well, he didn't do it last time.
But it don't matter.
Last time he didn't do it.
I was like, I can't sit here and watch it.
It's too funny now.
I'm going to lean into it personally.
You got to. Sometimes you're the one that
can be right
couldn't be happier
to have you guys here
I'm your host Joe Budden
you may have heard many things about me
before this broadcast
believe a third of it
the rest is untrue
Antoine is here dressed as
Erickson
they're having a fit off a fit pod a pod fit off i don't know
who's winning because of the sneakers ish kept it classy on the torso but rugged on the legs
he's got some weird you know he does that harvard i've been shot weird thing he does i've been shot
but i also can shoot you yeah yeah yeah yeah he does that so, I've been shot weird thing. He does. I've been shot, but I also can shoot you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He does that.
So, I mean, he's on brand.
Balance, balance.
Harvard, I've been shot.
Oh, I wish I could tell you all the latest.
Oh, this is funny.
I bet to tell you off air, I'm going to punch you in your fucking face.
What's wrong with you?
Anyway.
This is cool, yo.
Fucking God's crazy.
Ice is here.
Looking like a little Reese's
Reese's Pieces
Peanut Butter Cup
But the girl one
But a girl one
Like a little bit of pink in there
I won't clown the hat
That's cuzzo
The new barber
Seem to not be available
As much as the old barber was
I don't
I ain't wanna say nothing
It's intentional It's the time of the year We gonna have no No December seem to not be available as much as the old barber was. I ain't want to say nothing.
It's intentional.
It's the time of the year.
We're going to rug it for the winner. We're going to have no December?
No, we're just going to rug it for the winner.
Okay.
That's all.
Stacking that cheese.
No, it ain't about that.
Parks is here in his wedding outfit,
minus the blazer.
Okay.
And the guys are-
I should have wore Tim's.
And the guys are in the back. There. And the guys are I should have wore Tim's. And the guys are in the back.
There.
And you're here.
Yes.
With jeans on.
And I'm here with jeans on.
And the hoodie with a dude on it.
Virgil, rest in peace.
Rest in peace, Virgil.
With a dude.
I didn't know who the dude was.
With a dude on it.
I thought it was Virgil.
You got rich jeans on?
Oh my God.
I don't want to wear these jeans. I mean, we don? Oh, my God. I don't want to wear these jeans.
So, I mean, we don't have to highlight them.
I don't think that's compelling content.
But please, if you do, then make it funny.
Because my thighs is thying.
Make it funny.
Make it funny.
Don't.
Don't.
Make it funny.
You said your thighs are thying.
Make it funny.
My thighs is thying.
You had to jump up and down to get in them, fam.
You did.
You lost to Eric.
You was running around your house.
You was jumping up and down
Like a baddie
Fuck outta here yo
No but I did thank God
For the elastic
And the waistband
I did
I'm doing that shit
Where your kangaroo pouch
Is like the belt
Shout out to you niggas out there
That was tucking your t-shirts in
So we could see the belt
I remember that era
Niggas was tucking sweaters in
I did it for a week
I seen y'all Still doing it I seen Niggas was takin' sweaters in. I did it for a week.
I seen y'all.
Still doin' it.
I seen niggas takin' sweater in.
Hoodies in.
You gon' see the belt.
Nigga.
All right.
Where would I like to begin on this audio adventure?
Shout out to wherever you might be listening from.
Sounds real NPRs without the music.
Yeah.
Throw on some Jigga Man.
Get this thing right where it needs to be.
All right, mic check, one, two, one, two.
Y'all know who it is.
You know who I be, and you know what I do.
The whole gang is here.
I put that on Neighborhood Free Soussert.
And Casanova while we at it.
It's the holidays.
The malls are still looking empty Everybody's broke
Shit is fucked up out here
What's the deal, playboy?
Just rest your soul
I'll be holding it down, yo
Still love the dough
They got the neck
That was hard on this song
That wasn't fair
It was hard on this album
He was hard on it
And I love this shit
This shit is a bop
This is the one bop
Out of the whole era
Where he was trying to be puffed
That album's dope This is the one bop out of the whole era where he was trying to be puffed.
That album's dope.
This is the one that stuck.
Don't walk out the store to usher me in the store either in the mall.
That's what's going on out there.
Don't come to the hallway and tell me, look what we have.
Nigga, I am outta here.
And it goes
All right, it's Brick out here.
Let's start a little harder than that.
Hey, what the hell is that?
Bob Parks.
God damn it.
You wanted to drop in there.
Yeah, but I had my whole, you know what I mean?
My bad, my bad.
But it's cool.
Don't check your decks, Paul.
I'm fast. Yo, what made you think of it?
What made me think of what?
The city is my...
I could think of it.
Well, I had a whole little...
That was a nice one.
Thank you, Jesus.
I mean...
Don't bump my turntables no more.
Don't bump it.
Yo, let me make it a new...
Yo, do not bump...
I'm sorry, yo.
I remove your roof, nigga, let the sun shine in.
38 ways enough to put a one-nine in.
Really, I'm 36 without the gun, I'm thin.
But when the gang's tough, I'm steady, fuck.
Agent and bastard, I'm taking it back to day one. No kids, but trust me, is tough, I'm bad as fuck Alien and bastard, I'm takin' it back to day one
No kids, but trust me, I know how to raise a gun
With niggas that think I spend my days in the sun
Well, here's the shock of your life, the Glock, not the mic
Homie, I'm not in the hype, trust me, I'm still fuckin' up
And trust me, I still creep
See, I know the flat chance, lookin' real sweet
But reachin', I believe in you, I'm'all S.Dot Carter turned rappers into martyrs, separate fathers from me daughters
I'm a crook like you, I took like you, I disobeyed the law throughout the book like you
I dare you look at Jigga like I'm shook like who
I keep the bitch with me, nigga, come and get me
Come and get me Come and get me
Alright
Alright, now we can get the procedures proceeding
I just need to hear a little bit of this first verse
A little bit of this beat
I'm not sure, I think we might tell some of the truth this podcast
I don't know though
Little bit
Just a little bit of halfway half truth
there you go there you go half truths please refer to the disclaimer in front of this thing
both of them word i know what y'all niggas trying to do i don't like Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy If it's me, I paid the cost to be the boss to floss this hard. I can recall a year ago, I almost lost this job.
Boy, y'all remember this part about me parking the hog.
What about all them days I was walking my dogs, walking that broad?
But they never hollered back.
And if they did, all they said was, where them dollars at?
Well, Ice never heard this.
Ice never heard this one.
Man, we trying to figure out what year it was.
Don't do that.
I'm asking.
I got it.
Yeah. And loudly start popping back around the way. Niggas call me Bobby Boucher.
One chorus and we out.
One chorus and we out.
Wait a minute! I got shots to get, come and get me nigga Y'all won't rob the kid, come and get me nigga
I won't part with this, come and get me nigga
I won't part with this, come and get me nigga
I got shots to get, come and get me
Come and get me
Alright, what episode is this?
480 what?
Six.
486.
Them shit's going slow today.
Welcome to episode 486 of the JVP.
Refer to whatever was said in front of this bad boy, and we are here.
Yes, sir.
What's popping?
What's cracking?
How you feeling?
Good day, sir. How's your spirit? How's cracking How you feeling How's your spirit
How's your bank accounts
How's your text thread
DMs
Relationships
Personal and business
How's everything
Everything is great
Up and up
Depending on where it's from
You got some bad texts
What
Of course
Depending on where it's from
Get some shitty ones
You get some great ones
You know
Balance
Balance
Balance There you go Alright Awesome I'm feeling good as well Thank you gentlemen for asking know who it's from get some shitty ones you get some great ones you know balance balance balance
there you go all right awesome i'm feeling good as well thank you gentlemen for asking
uh where do you want to begin i feel like the jbp where would you be without the jbp
i ain't gonna hold you i'm still sitting there processing, that shit was 99, bro. Niggas really wasn't born. They wasn't born.
And be arguing.
Like, not even
Reasonable Doubt, that's Jay's third album
and y'all weren't here. And they be arguing.
Four? Four. Four of them.
Four. Four?
Yeah.
God damn. I don't argue with
them people. 21-year-olds try to argue
with me the other day.
Eminem is a plant.
Dog.
Stop.
Please.
Please.
Yo.
Please, bud.
Come on.
What do you want me to say?
Nothing.
You got it, bro.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah.
That's it.
Go water him.
You got it.
You got it.
Ice.
Oh, let me let the audience know.
Ice is on a warpath.
Ice is on a warpath. That on a war path That's what the
That's what the Scully's for
And I don't know
And I don't know why
Shout out to Cuzzo
With the Scully
I don't know
I don't know what happened
He won't tell us
But he just been
Lighting our ass up
Pause
Since this thing has started
That's not what happened Parks
Let me tell you
You know we come
We write our topics
Yeah
So I'm writing
on there. The first one I wrote, I
said, can you men let the
baddies be the baddies?
That was it.
And I had a whole reason for that.
Joe said some slick, something, I forgot what he said,
something. I said, you know what? He felt like the shot was aimed
at him. Listen, I was like, you know what?
They don't need to see the fourth wall.
No, no, no. I'm letting them know. I'm giving them some backstory, though. So yeah, I was like, you know what? They don't need to see the fourth wall. No, no, no. I'm letting them know.
I'm giving them some backstory, though.
So, yeah, I was just like, you apply to this.
Shit.
Shots fired.
You apply to this.
You send some smoke ish way, too, but he don't apply to that.
So why?
He don't apply to that.
So you got other smoke for him?
No, I have smoke for ish.
So you got smoke for people today.
I didn't have smoke for you.
You jumped in front of the gun and all right, cool.
Well, I defend women.
I'm not talking about. I'm talking about the men that
are trying to be the women.
Hey, that wasn't smooth?
No, because this ain't got nothing to do with the women.
This is you niggas trying to be women.
Look at Barry Sanders.
Yeah, that's awesome. This is that.
They tried to kill Joe.
Alright, so where does this come from?
Tell me.
Y'all are stealing everything from the women, bro.
From their bags to their slang, their lingo.
Like, let them have something.
Oh, he's shooting at you.
Really astute observation here, Ice.
I'm just saying.
You're only a few eons late with this.
And I just asked a question.
I tweeted.
I said, yo, I'm kind of tired of you dudes.
Can you let the women keep their lingo?
Because I kept saying it's giving and all.
Like, yo, it's cute when they say it.
But let them have that.
Y'all don't got to.
Be dudes.
Be your own person.
You ain't got to do with the women.
Be dudes.
Yeah, be dudes.
Aggressive.
Okay.
There's only one small problem in your little hypothesis over there.
What's that?
The girls didn't come up with that, nor does it belong to them.
You don't have to come up with it for it to belong to you.
You don't have to come up with it for it to belong to you.
They claimed it and took it.
That's not theirs.
Stop.
It is theirs.
And they'll tell you it's not theirs.
It's theirs.
Joe.
This is a fact.
We know who started it.
We don't have to argue about it.
We know who started it.
I'm not saying who started anything.
I'm telling you, let them have that.
That's their shit that they are running.
Come on, Mr. Macho Man, my cheese mall.
Come on.
Come on.
Because I can hear your brain.
This is your ice.
Bitch, it's your work for us.
This is your ice.
I can actually hear your brain.
This is your ice, dog. I'm about to Ice. I got to hear your praise. This is you and Ice,
dog. I'm about to do this,
bro.
Oh,
it's giving.
All right.
It just sounds weird
hearing it.
It does.
That shit sounds nuts to me.
It does.
So it's giving weird.
No,
it's not.
No,
it sounds weird.
You hear that?
I said it with my nuts.
It sounds weird.
Not it's giving weird.
Not too much on Jodo. So the people that have nuts, so we're better. It sounds weird. Not it's giving weird. Not too much on Jo, though.
So the people that have nuts.
So we're better if we have nuts.
I didn't say that.
You can try to spin it.
Just let the women have their jeans, their bags, and their lingo.
No.
That's it.
Then that's it.
No.
Let them have.
Let them have.
Please.
That's all it is, man.
It wasn't no smoke, though.
What I got was issue smoke.
That's not.
Oh, I can't wait for that one.
Oh, please. Fast forward then. smoke, though. What I got was issue smoke. That's not. Oh, I can't wait for that one. Oh, boy, please.
Fast forward then.
15-second skip button.
Mad times.
Mad times.
That's later, bro.
Oh, that's your man, so it's later.
My man's little Nook boy shit.
All right, well, come in now with a strong, bold opinion.
Shake things up.
Come on.
I just gave you one.
Act like a man.
Stop trying to be women.
Girl, that was not one.
That's not one.
Oh, okay.
Now.
Welcome to the pod.
Whoa, what do we got?
Come on.
The internet is interneted for you.
Made it real easy to come into work.
Yes, they have.
Come on, come on.
They gave it right to you.
Rest in peace, Mike Leach, number one.
Mississippi State head coach.
Passed.
I don't know exactly when he passed, but it broke this morning.
And we can also say rest in peace, Granddaddy IU.
We can.
Rest in peace, Granddaddy IU.
Legend.
Rest in peace, Granddaddy IU.
And rest in peace, Paul Silas.
Basketball.
Basketball legend.
Legend and royalty. So we want Basketball legend. Legend and royalty.
So we want to start there.
That's important.
Also, I got a family friend that's not doing the greatest.
I want to send a prayer out to him as well.
Sorry to hear that.
It's been a lot of, I'm not trying to be morbid.
I was reading about Mike Leach
Mike Leach
was rushed to the hospital
and
all they said was it was a
personal health matter
and as soon as he got to the hospital
they announced that he was critical.
So my brain has just been focused on, again, how instantaneous these things are.
Right?
All right, I'm spooking you all out here.
No, no, no, no no no no no no you are
correct it's spooky that you could just
be going on about your business and this is going to sound
really simple and at any given point
something inside of you
can just stop
unbeknownst to everybody no announcement
no nothing and you just
vacation for next week and
not
that gets a little spookier.
Yeah.
It does.
It sounds so simple, but as you're young, you pay that no mind because you're young.
You feel like everything should be working the way it's supposed to be working.
But as you get 40 and 45 and 50 and be faced with your decisions you made your whole life.
Yeah, that gets spooky.
I know three or four people that just passed away
in the last month or two.
Young people, dog,
in their 40s.
You know what I'm saying?
That shit is,
it starts to change.
And then you got kids,
you start trying to be like,
yo, dog,
I could be gone tomorrow.
Like, we say it,
yo, you could be gone tomorrow.
No, you really could
be gone tomorrow, dog.
And all of us got kids,
well, you know,
Sands Park's,
but people got kids, you got to start planning us got kids. Well, you know, Sands Park's, but people got kids.
You got to start planning
for that shit.
Like, wills and all of that shit
need to start being in place.
It's scary, dog.
No, fact.
Fact.
It's really scary.
And as I was reading
about Mike Leach,
you know, I just think
of rest in peace, Hovain.
Word.
I just think of Hovain,
Thanksgiving with his family.
I think of Kevin Samuels
about to take something down,
having a blast. Man, yo, shout out to Kevin Samuels about to take something down, having a blast.
Man, yo,
shout out to Kevin Samuels,
yo, too.
I think he was about
to have a night of it.
And just,
you can't plan.
You can't, bro.
And I only bring this up, right,
because you bring up
a good point
at any given second.
Any given second.
But when you're moving,
when you're moving,
like relocating,
how important are the local hospitals as you move something you don't even think about yeah it's something you don't even think about until you need one you get i do because we so
spoiled in jersey with hackensack hospital and i've thought about it because my mom works in
the hospital she's like you can't move to that city.
Their hospitals are terrible.
It's trash.
And that could be life and death.
Hell yeah.
Like legitimately life and death.
But we had university.
So like even
when I got shot,
the hospital was literally
a block away.
You get what I'm saying?
So you went
and when I got in
university
for those that are not
from here,
it's an amazing trauma center.
You get what I'm saying?
So you got a hospital right there that some shit really jumps off and you got a bum ass hospital and you going through some serious trauma.
You might not make it.
Where's another hospital could have saved your life?
That shit is deep.
Like I'm so paranoid about it.
I want to start giving protocol for niggas they come around like yo hospitals to the left run all the lights get to the car fast and it's scary I
mean it's super spooky super spooky not to start that way rest in peace to
everybody that we lost yes and here's cheers to the people that we still have
indeed Lord I'll tell you real quick um so we can get off with all the
seriousness um it put it put a a like a different perspective and i have a family member that i
haven't spoken to in about three years right and something happened last week involving my pops and
that side of the family and shit so it's causing like you start to really start thinking
about it when you see people passing away and he's like you know what these little grudges and
shit like i'm not speaking to this person next thing you know you can get a phone call like
hey dogs such and such ain't here no more now now now he gone yeah Yeah, yeah. Now, so I just, if y'all can squash certain shit with people, squash it.
Agreed.
It's just life ain't as, we always think we got tomorrow.
Mm-hmm.
But I'm not trying to.
And we all hold grudges for little dumb shit.
For way too long, too.
Yeah.
And then you be gone.
I like the way he, you know what I mean?
Like, that's not a real reason to, like, cut someone off your life.
I don't do that.
Good.
All of that.
All of that.
All of that is true.
And happy that y'all was saying it in front of this pod.
Speaking for me, all of the people that I have a grudge with that I don't speak with.
That I have distanced myself from all you you nasty, dirty, low-down,
rotten, bum-ass niggas,
keep it there.
I ain't talking about that.
I'm talking about all of them.
I got away for a reason,
knowing that death is in the picture.
I hear you, good.
Shit.
We talking about the little shit.
I'm talking about little shit.
I know you playing,
but I agree with some of that, too. There's some of those for real, but I'm talking about the little shit. I'm talking about little shit. I know you're playing, but I agree with some of that, too.
There's some of those for real.
But I'm talking about other times when it's within your family and y'all could fix that.
Well, now, it's a family.
It's family.
It's different.
That's what I'm talking about.
Oh, yeah.
Because some people really fucking...
You went to university and left with all the trauma.
Come on.
No, come on.
Once we start getting in the family, it start getting in this shit.
Come on.
I'm just saying.
And I can't even do it no more because I pieced it up with all my family.
Oh, that's nice.
See?
I pieced it up with all my family.
That's kind of what I'm saying.
That's dope.
Piecing it up with your family.
Shouts to y'all.
Nowadays, I mean, you don't have to want to.
I mean, you know, you look into it, right?
Like when I really, really think about it.
And y'all know my dad and my mom.
We family, family.
They super family oriented.
But right?
Like my dad is got two brothers left from six.
Damn.
Like you got to really like you age and everybody age.
So you just look at people and Uncle Walter, who might have been annoying when he was 30, having seizures, and I didn't understand what was going on.
Now ain't so annoying.
And now your role in the family is a lot more important than it used to be.
That's real.
You don't even have the time to whatever existed, whoever's side of the family beef you took, you're the age where who cares it don't matter no more
It ain't none of it man. Don't matter. Sure. You know, we preaching we gonna team somebody now
Yeah, but this is adult
So people just need to hear some of that shit though like cuz you get you left with regret and ain't that's though you can't
get time back no matter what so many people that just let shit go unsaid and
unspoken and
Will oh, you know,oken and we'll cross that road
when we get there
or something like that.
And guess what?
You might never get there.
That person passed away.
Now you start wondering,
damn.
We older,
we do got the leadership role now.
But you can tell both of them,
like, yo,
y'all stupid.
Y'all being childish.
You know what I'm saying?
Like now,
when you was younger,
you couldn't really speak out.
Right.
Now you 40 something,
you're like,
yo, dog,
cut the shit.
You did wrong.
You did X, Y, Z. It was your fault. When you was 20, you couldn't say that to them. True. You know what I'm saying? So yeah Now you 40 something. You're like, yo, dog, cut the shit. Mm-hmm. You did wrong. You did X, Y, Z.
It was your fault.
When you was 20,
you couldn't say that to them.
True.
You know what I'm saying?
So, yeah.
You're right.
They be shit niggas
not even thinking about no more.
Y'all just not speaking
over some years-long beef.
That shit,
it don't even matter
to either one of y'all no more.
Indeed.
So, yes.
If you can,
just get right with your people.
Agreed people Agreed
Agreed
We can end Adult Summit
Yeah yeah yeah
Let's get to the fuck show
I don't like that
That sounds a little porny
Back to the rest of you niggas
Like I was saying
Some of you bitch ass niggas
None of that applies
Let me stop
Let me stop man
All the battle.
Mature or not mature.
What do I want to do?
You just got to, you know.
Yeah, a little in and out.
Yeah, that's it. In and out.
That's it.
All right.
Okay.
I'm going to move this thing out the way because we have a very special guest.
So I'm going to move this thing a majiggy.
Early on the guest today.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, Corey, thank you, you man Fucking muscles finally come in handy
Alright
We have a very special guest
Let me preface this with
I invited this guest
To come join us once again
Months ago
When
His name was low
My name was low Round of applause on Joe Has done a great job of keeping his name was low, my name was low.
Round of applause on Joe has done a great job of keeping his name low in recent months.
I know to you guys, it's nothing for me.
It's an everyday struggle.
Hey, look at that.
Look at that.
Hey, there's a little thing in the jiggy.
Okay.
We have none other than Rutgers extraordinaire.
New Jersey internet phenom.
Cultural captivator.
Built his empire from nothing.
Without the help and respect of many of you fans out there and carries a chip on his shoulder
that we get to see in moments like this.
Ladies and gentlemen,
DJ Academics.
Come on.
Come on in, buddy.
I normally don't even let people join us this early in the pod, but man, you're on fire, man.
You don't leave them hanging.
Double round of applause.
Double the applause.
Energy up in here.
Energy up in here, ladies and gentlemen.
Man.
What's up?
Man.
I like this, man.
Huh?
This is a beautiful look, man.
This is great.
Because you was here with us before.
You know, I'm always pocket watching.
I was driving down.
I haven't been over this side in a minute.
Yo, you so cute.
Come on.
I was looking for the Maybach outside.
What's up?
Who admits they always, well, I'm parking the street.
I got to see what niggas is getting.
They got parking the street.
Oh, for real?
I don't know. They always well I'm parking the street Niggas just come right on it in the pocket watch it now I do
Who you think is winning now you're about it looks at things come on
That wasn't even Including me I mean
What space?
We talking about
Podcasts?
In the space
Where you pocket watch
And I ain't talking about
You looking at
Kevin Hart's pockets
Or The Rock
No
Shit
I feel like
I feel like everybody
Who's
I don't like your numbers
Last time you came here
You'd be throwing
Just wild numbers out at
Everybody
Everybody makes
10 million or better
To you
Well people were offended Shit You know I. To you. Well, people were offended.
Shit.
You know, I realized
when you pocket watch wrong,
people get offended.
I did it with 21 Savage.
I told him,
I don't think he made
over 150 million.
He was very perturbed.
He was upset.
And I was like, damn.
Maybe I am a little bit off,
but I mean,
like in a podcast space.
I don't think he did neither.
He was upset.
I said Lil Baby made more than him
and he was just like,
nigga, what?
Didn't like that.
Didn't like that one.
But I mean, in the podcast space,
I feel like everybody get money, man.
Like if we know your name,
you're getting money.
Or if you have some relevance.
Now relevance is,
that's probably what we should do.
That's vague.
Yeah.
Relevance is,
but I mean,
I think ain't the rumor
that Gillian Wilder got that
hundred million?
Nigga, I'm looking at you.
I know, but I've mastered the art of mute.
Like, you don't even get it.
Messy Joe ain't here no more?
No, no, no, no, no.
I can't be messy.
This nigga's 70 years old.
Yo, Joe, you used to be giving everybody the game on the podcast business,
basically this and that.
No, no more?
No, no, no.
Hell no.
Niggas don't deserve information from Joe.
Hell no.
Hey, get it how you live it.
I think they didn't want to go out and bang, though.
Get it how you live it.
I think they getting it, you know.
But as you pocket watch them, you feel like you can see it.
Look, Joe could get it messy at any time.
I could really get it.
I'm a messy master.
I am a master of mess.
I got to really be around you to see.
Look, let me walk it back.
All right, come on, moving on.
I've seen a couple of foreigners, you know what I mean?
I don't see where they live in that, though.
So I take a bunch of things into account.
I don't know.
I don't know, man. I don't know.
This is so great. Listen, we have much to talk
about with you. I've been up.
Where do we want to start?
Where do we want to start? Do we want to start with
you versus the City Girls?
Stop me versus the City Girls.
But we can start there.
We don't want to start with
Meg. I'm getting all my Meg Tory coverage from you and Milagro. We can start there I didn't want to start with Meg I'm getting all my
Meg Tory coverage
from you and Milagro
we can start
I mean listen
there's no me
or me versus
the city girls
I don't know why
people get so triggered
by my opinion
but this has been
the problem since
Everyday Struggle
where like
I don't know if it's
how I'm saying it
I don't know what it is
but I'm saying
everything everybody else
is saying
I'll tell you why
because I've been there I'm going to everybody else is saying. Because you don't know how to shut the fuck up.
I'm going to tell you why.
Because when you say it, it's amplified.
It's so loud.
Because he don't know how to shut the fuck up.
It's not that.
Because it could be somebody saying something 100 times worse than what he's saying.
But when he say something, it hit harder.
Trust me.
I've been there.
I know for a fact.
Yo, y'all, that's such an internet line that the internet came up with dog i'm talking real shit i'm fuck the internet like to where yes but the other
from over there could say something and it's not the same as act with a following or you with a
following saying something but but what i'm saying is even to build the following we always
everybody started with zero followers, bro.
You didn't walk in the game where you at.
Yeah, so your reputation of outlandish stuff built you a following.
And what I'm saying.
So now you got 10 million followers.
So when you say some shit,
rah-rah over there can say something worse.
You be trying to trigger the girls.
No, I don't.
Listen, I made.
Because niggas have babies on girls every day.
No, no, hold on.
I'm gonna
be honest with you the same way I comment right and and again you know it's even ice's point like
I still talk like I'm I'm that twitter nigga who probably won't get 10 retweets and that's probably
my biggest um the biggest critique about me but but also like the people who watch my shit want
me to talk like that too like you know I mean what I mean? If I was coming in and like, you know,
disguising what I'm trying to say rather than just say it,
like, for example, the whole City Girls thing, right?
I made a vague tweet.
I said, listen, man, Diddy's a real ass nigga, man.
I said, yo, he done fucked around,
had a side chick, a side baby on the side chicks.
I ain't gonna lie, that's hilarious.
You can't say that.
That's funny, though.
That's funny.
Why you can't say that? That's funny. My. That's funny. Why you can't say that?
That's funny.
My question.
He had a side baby on the side.
Ice and Antoine.
Don't make me turn up on both of you.
Wait, wait, hold on.
By the way, that was nameless.
That was nameless.
That was nameless.
I never said no name.
But a hit dog will holler.
Let me get my touch tape ready for y'all.
That wasn't funny?
That was funny, man.
Having a side baby on your side, Chicksman?
That's funny. So you say whatever. Come on, dog. You say whatever't funny? That was funny, man. Having a side baby on your side chicks, man? That's funny.
So you say whatever.
Come on, dog.
You say whatever you want.
That's funny, dog.
Puff is Puff.
Carisha is Carisha.
These are people
of notoriety
with fan bases.
Okay.
So you're not,
you're never just talking about them.
You're speaking about their brand and to their fan base when you put their
name in something.
I don't think.
So yes,
it is funny ish.
Okay.
But when academics says,
just like they got the old rappers almost got your ass.
They almost,
you better,
you better slow down.
You better slow down you better slow down
Wade is much to cover
with you buddy
yo
every time
I see
like I might lose my card
yo
just sitting here now
I see at least
three legends
every time I'm in the airport
so you know
and I always
I do the little
double look
and I'm like
I hope that nigga
know I ain't talking about him
right
you know what I mean they don't know yeah they all took it personally no but they friends hope that nigga know I ain't talking about him right you know what I mean
they don't know
yeah they all took it personally
no but they friends
they friends
even if you ain't talking about me
you talking about my man
but the same thing
you shouldn't have said
that's true
that
why I fuck with you
is cause you just grow
more empowered
to do exactly
what you're not supposed to do
it's awesome to watch
no hold on
especially as I get tamers
like oh shit
Axl at it
go
hold on we gonna have to deal
and address the the older rappers thing because that is a conversation and and
body I think that's went all over the place and then you got on YouTube
tongue-in-cheek tongue-in-cheek it was hurtful I was told my one guy then put a name on that bullet
Then you got to put a name on it. I shot the club
I thought you're such and such and he dead nigga look bad and dusty and down on times
I think people know why now who I was talking about. I don't want I don't I don't know. I don't either say it
I believe you know you so much
They do look a little Nah, I'm... We're gonna bleep it out. Come on. Oh. It was the.
Nigga do look a little...
Let me do it.
Let me do it.
Yo.
We both agree.
Hey, and timestamp that.
Definitely.
Yeah, but he looks...
He fucked up.
You should've put a name on that one.
Nah.
I was going to, but I was...
You said that, and LL, good looking ass came up.
Every...
And also all of the...
And Big Daddy Kane looks great.
All the great looking...
All the dudes doing great, they jumped out like... And I'm trying to... Yo, so look, that's like a nigga come and say, yo, all of the- And Big Daddy Kane looks great. All the great looking- All the dudes doing great, they jumped out like,
and I'm trying to-
Yo, so look,
that's like a nigga come and say,
yo, all these fucking black podcasters,
they all broke, busted, and disgusted.
You gonna say something?
You gonna say something?
No, who gonna say something?
Who gonna say something?
I would probably be like,
you right, except me.
But what I'm saying is,
now you included old hip hop. Every old nigga in hip hop, you included them. Okay. But what I'm saying is now you included old hip hop.
Every old nigga in hip hop, you included them.
So now I'm going to come shoot him back.
No, no.
I know what he be doing.
No point.
No, you're right.
No, you're right.
No, but here's the thing, though.
That thing that they clipped was, that wasn't even the focus.
I wasn't just dissing older rappers.
I was talking about NBA Youngboy and like his contract. And I
was just like, listen, he's going through, he's going through the same thing that many rappers
have gone through in the past. So I watched a video of that said individual criticized him.
Like he was like, like he was stupid or something like that. And I'm like, you know what? A lot of
y'all can't really, I don't feel like I have a leg to stand on because y'all took the same bad
deals. Y'all did a whole bunch of fuck shit while y'all had the opportunity.
And y'all never passed the ball.
Y'all never passed no game down to nobody, right?
And then, obviously, while referring to that one person, which I just lumped everybody clearly.
I said, some of y'all pioneers, you know what I mean, be looking dusty and broke.
You know what I mean?
Which, obviously, just went bigger than, you know, clearly was intended.
And, you know what I mean?
I love the legends, man.
What I got to say, though,
and you smell good.
It's time for it.
This is a real sweatsuit
that you have on.
What you trying to say?
You know you used to wear
that for crazy shit.
What?
No, for real.
No, I just couldn't dress.
This shit, you got to come on.
Bracelet, chain.
I'm surprised Ice still got his chain out,
because you going crazy right here.
The hat matches.
What I'm saying is the evolution, the act.
Maybe I would fucking keep attacking niggas, too.
Nah, that's not why, man.
What me just relying on
my own platform
for the most part
to you know
keep the brand going
has allowed me to do
not only do what I want
but it's just
stay super authentic
to like the audience
and
you know
I mean
you might see me
look a little different now
because you know
I did make a
there was a cognizant point
or
there was a point
that I actually realized that that was rich nigga chant point or there was a point that I actually
realized that
that was rich nigga chubby
it's not the
mom's basement chubby
you look good nigga
I had to
I had to make a choice
to be like yo listen
I gotta also show people
a little bit that
you know what I mean
yeah you might see me
just screaming and barking
from my two million dollar house
this ain't no basement shit no more
I gotta let y'all know
this is a different level of
you know what I mean?
Even though I'm doing some of the same things, like, for example, streaming, like, the lifestyle
has also improved a bit.
It also encourages other people.
So, you know what I mean?
I'm not usually, not really, like, usually shitting on people with it.
But I think it's important to show that, you know, there's some fruits of my labor.
And I think there's a lot of people going.
It's motivating.
Yeah. I think a lot of people are going this route in terms of, labor. And I think there's a lot of people going. It's motivating. Yeah.
I think a lot of people are going this route in terms of, I remember when I started on
Twitch, you used to laugh at it.
Like, shit.
You used to be like, man, can we get this motherfucker off of Twitch?
Now every rapper is on Twitch.
Nigga, I'm on Twitch.
As you should.
You know what I mean?
But I laughed at everything you did when I didn't know you.
That is true.
When I didn't know you, I didn't understand none of this shit.
It's fucking goofball basement bullshit.
You'd be killed on Twitch.
Huh?
You'd be killed.
It doesn't even have to be Twitch.
It has this thing,
live streaming in itself
is just like a,
I think it's like the wave right now.
Yeah, but you'd be putting niggas on the screen.
You'd be putting a tweet over here.
Oh, yeah.
You got a whole ensemble of invisible niggas
behind that little black drape somewhere.
Nah, nah. Don't get me on here. I could barely work my phone now. You got a whole ensemble of invisible niggas behind that little black drape somewhere.
Like, don't get me on it.
I can barely work my phone now.
Did you see that episode?
Did you see?
I just found out on OnlyFans I could slow the speed down.
Like, oh.
Oh, buddy.
Yo, you pay for OnlyFans?
You got to stop it, man.
Yo, Joe, you gotta stop it.
Really?
You don't?
Nigga, no.
If I can't,
it can't be good if I can't find it on Reddit.
It can't be good.
Can I say that word for word?
It can't be good.
Word for word.
It can't be good.
It's on Reddit.
I ain't not paying for this shit.
The good shit is on Reddit.
Now, there'll be some little
hidden gems.
I stopped it.
I feel you.
This little thing that I follow
updates every day.
Six to ten pieces of content.
Who you follow the only things?
Oh, you want to see?
I definitely want to see.
Oh.
You have a talent for finding some hidden gems, man.
I'm going to see if you...
Come on, bro.
I got you now.
Y'all talk.
Say something.
You been on it?
Like, I mean, I haven't been on the site, so I've watched to see if you... Come on, bro. I got you now. Y'all talk. Say something. Yo, you ever been on it? You been on it?
Like, I mean,
I haven't been on the site,
so I've watched the videos
that's been on there,
but I've got it off other sites.
I've never...
And obviously,
maybe something with me, right?
Like, I feel like
if I bring myself
to put my credit card on there
and I see OnlyFans
show up on my statement,
this is a different level
of down bad.
It's a mental signifier.
Now, you can take that phone.
Take a second.
I'll keep the broadcast going.
You can scroll up because I purchased all of those.
No way.
So you can scroll up, see what's going on,
see where I'm taking the culture with this.
Now you're going to lie.
You might have a problem.
Might?
Might?
When you say you have a problem.
Why might I?
But why is that a problem
Tell me
Explain to me
Because just even watching
Please expel
This sounds like some
Sexual deviant shit right here
Like you know what I mean
Like you
You might have some kinks
And some shit that's
Not really worked out yet
Like it's no reason why
Joe you can find
This shit on Pornhub bro
You can find this on Dykeman
You know what I mean
But that
You can find it in real life
So what's the point of paying for it you tell me
to not leave the house yeah and when i'm on my 47th page you know what you know what's funny
and you know what 72 but wait let me explain it to you let me explain it to you and i wouldn't
bother but the same reason that some of us artists purchase music y''all about to lose the culture.
Yeah, yeah, you ain't losing it.
Is this a shame?
It's the same exact reason why I'm going to support a content creator.
I was alive and there when our favorite porn stars, hate to get educational now,
was trying to take their rights and likeness back from most of the major porn companies.
I'm going to be honest with you.
The moment Kanye was a billionaire and said he don't even pay for OnlyFans, you think
I'm about to pay for OnlyFans?
Dog, Kanye fucked with some of the worst looking white women I've ever seen in my life.
He will give me no advice on what to do with women.
Kanye West will give me zero advice with them little anorexic white women.
I agree with you.
I will say this too.
I agree with that concept.
The porn game is kind of trash now also.
That's because they already,
listen, I ain't going to teach y'all.
That's because the kids went in there taking shots.
Listen, tell me about the trial and the case.
Tell me what's going on.
Unbiased.
I think a lot of, so.
Come on, because they got you now.
Kelsey going to take the stand and say he did it?
No, I knew that was going to happen.
I knew it was going to happen.
She has no choice.
Like, yeah, she definitely has no choice.
I think she's...
I called it from like months ago.
I think they probably gave her an immunity.
You think she has a deal?
Yeah, she gave her an immunity deal.
You got to get up on the stand.
You got to point Tori out.
The only thing that's shocking, surprising to me
is that nobody can find a bodyguard.
There's four people.
You know, I thought Tori needed the bodyguard to say he didn't do it.
Right.
So so Megan saying he did it.
Kelsey's going to say he did it.
And Tory obviously is going to say he didn't do it.
But the bodyguard who's the neutral party, nobody can find that.
Somebody wants to pay them off.
He left country.
Let me ask you a question.
They had a problem with the bullet fragments being lost out of the evidence room at the LAPD.
Did they find them?
Not to my knowledge.
They're probably going to bring that up in court either today.
The surgeon's taking a stand.
But here's the thing, though.
It depends on going into this trial, what are you trying to figure out?
I'm not trying to figure out if she got shot.
I accept that.
I do think she got injured as a result of a gun being fired.
I don't think that she did not get injured.
I agree with that.
I agree with that.
Right?
So however you want to, like, again, we could technically say, well, was it the bullet?
Was it a fragment?
Was it the shot next to her that broke a glass and she stepped on it?
Did she get injured by the result of a bullet being fired?
I say absolutely yes.
Yep.
Right? I'm in yes. Yep. Right?
I'm in all in agreeance with that.
And after that, now we're at the trial, what are you trying to figure out?
Are you trying to figure out if Tori shot her or will Tori be innocent or found guilty?
I think those are two different things.
Now, whoever who did it, whether it's Tori or not, we don't know if we'll actually get to the truth of that.
There's no smoking gun, right? But how does the case look for Tori? And that's what I'm saying. we don't know if we'll actually get to the truth of that. There's no smoking gun, right?
But how does the case look for Tory?
And that's what I'm saying.
I don't know what happened.
I know people put me on Tory's side, but I'm just going over what they claim is evidence.
I think this shit just looks sloppy.
This shit looks forced, rushed.
And it looked like even the DA jumped to some conclusions.
And now we're seated in court that, let's just say, just for argument's sake, that Tory did it.
At least off of day one and going into this, we're going to see what happened with Meg.
You know, Meg's testifying today.
Tory might beat the shit, and maybe he did do it.
So, again, what have we been waiting for?
Because there's no smoking gun coming.
This is he says, she said.
Oh, well, really?
They were fighting over the dick.
This,
come on now,
like,
it's a lot going on.
So,
the DA just seems like
they don't have all their ducks in the order
and Tory's lawyer is coming with some shit,
man.
I agree with him.
Yeah,
because all the defense got to do
is create doubt.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that.
They don't have to prove
that he didn't do it.
They just got to create doubt.
I'm going to keep it above.
I don't even think they had,
this is my personal opinion,
I don't think they had enough evidence
to even take him to trial.
I think if it was Joe Schmo, they wouldn't even have went to trial.
They would have kicked that shit out because they didn't have evidence enough
for him to be on trial outside of the, yo, he shot me, which is probable cause.
But now when you start going into the scientific shit, the fact that,
from what I heard, he didn't have no
gunshot residue on him. No, he didn't.
He didn't say that. They said he had a little bit,
but shorty had the most.
If I shoot a gun and we all in one car,
all of us are going to have some residue on us,
but the majority of the residue
is going to be on the person that fired the weapon.
I'm not a gun expert.
No, you're right.
The fact that he didn't have...
Ish is our gun expert, so you know.
Talk about the residue, Ish.
No, and when I saw the footage of them getting pulled out the truck,
he has no shirt on.
So how the fuck does he have minimal gunshot residue on him?
He has no shirt.
He's got fucking swim trunks on him.
Off of this,
the Spectre doc,
which we just watched
and we talked about briefly here,
he got accused
of shooting the girl
in his house
and he didn't have
gun residue on him
because for whatever reason,
the physics of the room,
it didn't land on him,
but he was guilty
of doing that shit.
So again,
I'm not no fucking,
I'm not no gun expert,
but I have seen this happen
where the shooter
didn't have no shit on him like he was supposed to.
Gotcha.
The case has a lot of holes in it.
And also just what I've heard, you know, magically, I've been able to procure a few things.
Some information, a little bit.
Don't get me in trouble, nigga.
No.
Oh, okay.
I won't get you in trouble, nigga.
You ain't tell me shit.
If not, for real, the judges be like, does Zach know something?
Yo, they have my name.
Don't have the judges call my phone. Tell me shit If not for real The judges be like Does Ack know something That he ain't supposed to Yo
Don't have the judges
Call my phone
Yo Meg wrote a whole
Fucking affidavit
To the court
Saying that
Ack got information
Good for you
Huh
That's good for you
Should be good for me
And that is
She's trying to get me
Drawed into her case
Hey
That's my new take
On this Tory thing too
I know a lot of y'all
Think I'm on Tory's side
But
You made your mind up though Now that the trial is. You made your mind up though. Now that the trial
is here. You made your mind up though. Be honest.
No, I'm just a man. So I
have certain man senses that come
into this. But I pull from this what
you did. There is no
smoking gun and we will never know.
Even with the verdict.
Yeah. We not gonna know.
I'm cool with that. I'm
also clear that Meg got injured that night
yeah how not my business but she got injured that night now let's put all of that to the side
good for tory i ain't a lot of you by the way good for tory put me on put me on record
as saying good for you, nigga.
What you mean?
Because this is the Clout Chasers endgame.
That's what this trial is to me.
This is Clout Chaser Avengers.
Clout Chaser Avengers.
What do you mean?
He's going to be fucking that girl.
Why not?
Wait, which girl?
Meg, go on.
We're going to talk for real now.
You know a little bit about this, so we can talk.
Okay.
You ever seen any other girls he fucked?
Let's call a spade a spade, yo.
Nigga was fucking Meg Thee Stallion for one reason and one reason only.
So?
Okay, I get you.
So I follow what he's saying?
That's not so.
It is so.
That's not a so.
That's accountability. That's not so. It is so. That's not so. That's accountability.
That's not so.
That's accountability.
Put your dick where it's supposed to be,
and the things that are supposed to happen will happen.
You move with ill intention,
you're going to get bad intention.
If I'm fucking with a girl,
strictly because she is the biggest pop star in the world,
or the biggest mega star in the world,
great, she can pursue me.
That's how it happens most times.
Niggas be flying the club, minding their business,
and now a girl of mass fame come and try to holler at you,
and now you there, not because this is who you into,
but because...
You can't blame Torfett.
Nobody's turning that down.
Nobody's turning that down.
No, there are some people that would turn it down, but...
That's not true.
But this had all the...
And this is in hindsight, of this is hindsight speaking this had all of the makings
of disaster gumbo so let's really examine it because all i think of when i watch this circus
because this is a circus it's a circus this is a circus like if i'm a tax-paying citizen
and this is the fucking trial that y'all have been leading up to for years to know we're not going to get no truth from it.
One.
OK.
And two, for the opening arguments to go the way they did.
Dance, bitch, dance.
I watch the news every day and all of the murder and shootings that happened.
I never get subtitles.
You just playing with me now. I never get the conversation leading up to it after
it or during i just get the violent part niggas in the bronx just started shooting at one o'clock
one o'clock in the afternoon they ain't say nothing about how it happened you ain't in a
one-liner i didn't hear a thing so right y'all giving me the theatrics of it with dance bitch
dance the lead detective has a domestic violence case.
So he now prosecution don't want to call him, but the defense want to call him.
Yeah, that makes sense.
The handling of the evidence by their own admission is sloppy.
Little day, little pieces of paper.
So they can't even keep up.
They can't even keep up with the trail of blood that should be there.
Y'all are playing audio
of gunshots
from a ring camera
in court.
I'm not here
to play with y'all no more.
I'm not.
I know it's got to be
some type of footage somewhere.
That's what I was thinking about.
No, we at trial now.
So whatever is here, is here. If it ain't no footage, ain't no footage. That's what I was thinking about. Is that like? No, we at trial now. So whatever is here is here.
If it ain't no footage, ain't no footage.
That mean we got ring camera and pop, pop, pop.
That mean we don't have Tory Lanez doing that.
This is the part that really ended me.
The hammer was found in the slide position, which means he dumped the whole clip.
Yeah, the clip was empty.
Okay, I'm going to throw my laptop in the fucking Hudson.
That's what I'm going to do.
Now what y'all telling me is,
they argue in the car.
She said, your music trash.
See, that's the first smack in the face in y'all's story.
We in the car, your music is bad,
and now all hell break loose.
You get out. Your friend
get out. I get out and dump
the whole thing.
I'm just telling you what they said.
This is not a joke. That's why the prosecutors
Wait, wait, wait. No, no, no.
I dumped the whole thing.
There's an injury. Meg
is injured and she's going away now you telling me that injured
meg who just got shot is able to elude the nigga that's shooting her okay cool
he starts coming toward meg kelsey now turns around and intercepts intercepts wait so this
bitch gets fucking bravery of the year award. He just
dumped the whole clip.
Kelsey Wick. I have a
fucking brain.
I'm sorry.
I can't do this for another year.
So he dumped
the whole clip and you now gonna
intercept even though you was just
beefing with Shorty. So cool.
You intercept. This little five foot one nigga
mushes you to the ground.
Socks are out. Socks are out.
In the pictures,
she looks fine.
Grabbed her by the hair, swung her around.
He's never been charged for hitting the best friend, but now
in opening statements, the prosecutor
says that after he
shoots meg he's he's like walking up on her like he about to walk her down type of situation
the best friend says yo stop jumps in front of him he socks her out now as a black man that has
gone through the legal system a little bit i can tell y'all youtubers how that goes i'm charged
every single charge that they could charge me
with is going to be there.
For some reason,
that didn't happen. She's never also
said that he ever hit her. Assaulted her,
right? Yeah, she's never mentioned, she's
been on live talking about it, she's never said that
Tory did anything to her.
I got my own theories,
but I'm going to save
them. But what I can say, I got to save them. But what I can say.
I got some theories.
But what I can say, I'm finished with these niggas.
And I don't like that girl.
I'm, man, I can't.
I can't.
I can't.
I can't.
You told Gayle King you didn't fuck him.
We all know you fucked him.
The first line in for the prosecutor's statement,
opening statement,
yeah, they had an intimate relationship.
Now I see people arguing with me about semantics.
Well, intimate doesn't mean sex.
I'm like, fuck, you can't get,
you can't really win in this world, you know what I mean?
Because the way they said it
could mean that they were intimate before.
That's how the prosecution introduced that.
It's just to sneak it in.
Defense is like, no, we had an ongoing relationship.
With both of them.
Yeah.
So now, men again.
This is my 19th time telling men out there,
use your men-ness.
Use your men sensor brain.
Now, I've seen Tory wild out,
so I ain't vouching for him neither.
That little nigga got a temper problem.
So he could have very well hopped out
and just started shooting oil in the sky.
I don't know none of these niggas,
so I'm not vouching for it.
I'm just saying,
the way this sounds,
stop it, yo.
Stop it.
Because now at this point, everybody here is okay now, thank God.
Thank God.
But at this point, it is just a matter of he say, she say.
Let's see who can make who look bad and who can make who spend more money.
They not even in it for justice now.
I had a conversation with someone who basically said, listen, the only reason why... They're not in this for justice.
Nothing about this says they're in it for justice.
I don't think the court, the police department...
Nobody.
I think the DA's trying to say...
Well, I heard, you know, again, magically,
that the DA offered a plea.
And this new charge that he got
was basically what the plea was going to be.
He was going to have to plea to just discharging a weapon,
but that would put, you know, obviously his status as... That would be a year in a day so that will put us you know ice gonna
pick you up and you won't get deported so you know i thought it was more to that new charge being
added too but i didn't have any additional detail but that new charge and how it was worded i came
in here and said y'all ever heard that charge the bigger than that they're not giving you a plea
deal right before
you start trial if they think they can win trial right yeah yeah they've they've talked we've spent
a shit ton of money and resources from the state of california to prosecute this kid we're gonna
look stupid as hell if we don't get a conviction well and now it's about saving face right so like
even with all parties exactly they need some Exactly. They need some type of conviction.
Yeah.
Some type of conviction to kind of be like, well, you know, because in reality, once you
start hearing the case and even how they're presenting it, so sloppy all throughout, you
basically realize they've seen, this is on ABC News, the helicopters above, this is a
famous rap star.
We got him.
We got this nigga.
That got injured,
they have to do something.
That's true.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, and all of it just seems,
I mean, if I'm going off the prosecution,
all of it just seems like
they have a lot of circumstantial evidence
that they want to be taken in as fact.
Like, they keep drilling down this,
he called and apologized.
Now, it take men a little while to learn that society
views an apology as an admission yeah that's not how we were raised thinking an apology is damn
i fucked up and i'm holding myself accountable they keep trying to drive this home saying he
know he did it because he apologized that don't tell me that don't tell me much is all by the way
i got a theory that says that tory would not have gotten charged until meg settled the day meg went
on live because he got charged right after that the day meg went on live and said hey tory did it
i think they were reviewing the case realized they don't have enough without the witness actually
saying the witness don't say it which i don't have enough without the witness actually saying it.
The witness don't say it,
which I don't think Meg at first was trying to say it.
Right?
Without her saying it,
and now after you say it,
you got to take the stand,
which she's doing today.
Basically, I don't think they would have filed charges.
The moment when she said it,
they're like, well, you already said it publicly.
You might as well just come to court now.
Yeah, you got to say it.
So now they can charge him.
But before then, keep in mind,
they had all these things, and they couldn't come to court now. Yeah, you got to say it. So now they can charge him. But before then, keep in mind, they had all these things.
And they couldn't come to the conclusion to charge him before then. I'm going to just do a little bit of speculating because the trial's in process, in progress.
I want to know if the defense attorney or defense attorneys are going to corner Megan on the stand with her perjuring herself.
She showed up with like three lawyers.
I got to imagine they went over every possible question and all her social media comments.
Because if they're bringing up all the social media stuff, then everything is in play.
And plenty of times on social media, you said, my back was turned.
Yeah.
Now you can definitively identify your shooter.
There are a few inconsistencies with her social media stories
and what's been coming out in court.
It is.
If the defense attorneys
can somehow bring all of that to light,
which it seems like they might,
then awesome.
Two, I also want to know
if in cross-examination to Kelsey,
if they can ask her about
any existing deal
that she has in place with prosecution.
They probably are going to ask her.
For immunity.
Not today, tomorrow.
Tomorrow, gotcha.
They're definitely going to put Kelsey versus Meg
because when Kelsey went live, she said certain things.
And when Meg also went live, Meg either alluded to or basically said
yo she got paid off by Tory.
Then Kelsey said I never got paid
off. So again a lot
of that a lot of the shit that
again I'm not necessarily going to accuse
Meg going live and explaining
some shit for clout but
all of those public explanations
and tweets. They all was clout chasing.
All of them tweets is coming back because Torrey's, his defense team,
all they got to keep asking or just contradict whatever they're going to say on the stand
and be like, well, you didn't say this all live.
Exactly.
You already basically gave a statement.
Yeah, but that's not legally binding, I don't think.
No, you're right.
You're right.
But it's still back to speculation
and you're saying it's gonna put doubt in the mind of a juror you're gonna say something like
my back was turned even bigger than that if you have a witness especially if you're doing a cross
if you got a witness on the stand the first thing you want to i let the juror know she's a liar
they're not credible credibility credibility is it that. You already lied about having sex with them.
That's why the detective.
I'm going to give you six, seven lies.
You could tell the truth eight times.
Exactly.
If I show that you lied three times, now your credibility is in question.
That's right.
I'm sure they'll have some way to counter that.
I mean, again, she's going up against some top tier.
Hold up for a second.
Just want to play this audio from the live stream
the pool party
we had to come
we had to come kill the streets
for five minutes
I'm not going to keep letting up
off the point that
this is the clout chaser
Royal Rumble
I'm not
because you fucking kids
need to see and realize
when the domino effect is happening with your
clout chasing.
Hey, forget about my point with him shouldn't have been dating that girl.
Even though I stand by that.
He shouldn't have been dating her.
They shouldn't have been at her house.
You said they should not.
They shouldn't.
Kylie Jenner.
Shouldn't have been there either.
None of y'all know her.
I'm going to keep drawing lines between
real life rules
and internet rules
yo listen
we see it happen all the time
so enough is enough
you got a little bit of mix going
you got a little bit of mix going you go outside
to a spot with a little bit of mix
and now you are open to the mix
which is networking linking and
building the girls yo what you doing tomorrow i i day party over here yo come by swing by my place
yo i got this i got it's a bunch of niggas a bunch of empty souls auditioning for shit
it's what it be so mix gets mixed this whole shit is mixy but you're saying that as a 42 year old um no no i'm saying that as somebody
that has been in it and lived it plenty plenty nights i've been in la and shorty and shorties
was like actually a comedian said this recently and shorty and shorties was like hey come by
threesome how we play what's up up, hookah, no!
But, but,
I'm not leaving my Mondrian.
You're not staying at the Mondrian watching
OnlyFans. Stop, stop.
It's important that I drill his home.
He not lying.
It's important I drill his home because
in entertainment, it's too many people
getting money, and it's a lot of money.
That shit is coming in waves.
So we not thinking about what our actions are doing.
Right?
And I'm having this conversation with a business owner.
You're right.
So when we go on tour and niggas hit the road thinking it's ah, ah, ah.
No, it ain't.
Sit your fucking ass in that hotel room at 2 in the morning in the random city where you don't know the street niggas, the gangs, the clubs, the movies, the shakers, the escorts, the girls.
You don't know nothing.
And someone who's toured with him for 15 years, that's not cats.
Sit down.
You niggas took your little hot asses.
27, 28, I don't know.
I don't know.
He's 27, 28 now?
Who?
Tory Lanez.
I think Tory's 30.
He might be older now.
So he was 28 then.
You're 28 years old. You're an up and coming musician. It's just provocative. 28 now? Who? Tory Lanez. I think Tory Lanez. He might be older now. So he was 28? Yeah, yeah. Then.
You 28 years old, you're an up-and-coming musician.
It's just provocative, so whatever you're about to say, I agree.
It's tempting. Yeah, yeah.
It's tempting.
And you can't say, yo, he shouldn't have been there, because conversely, even though I know
you personally, and I know you turned down pussy, dog, it's still times where me and
you would be at a pool party in alpine and it's mad mixy and
under the same guys it's also one of them things we've done that you get what i'm saying so so
hold up let me finish so yeah you know we're not even arguing you pick and choose better than most
but no we just but there have been times where we would end up at a spot like that and we could
have gotten some shit fact so you can't say he shouldn't have been there as a 28-year-old man on an up-and-coming rise in L.A.
And Kylie Jenner and Meg Thee Stallion invite you to the crib.
I can say it because in the great words of Marty from Ozark, maybe that was his wife, there was too many chances to say no.
Why would he say no?
I mean, if he's thinking about it, there's a million reasons to fucking say no.
We can start with, I'm fucking Kelsey.
And Meg.
No.
I'm fucking Kelsey.
And Meg.
That came later.
That came later.
No.
He was fucking Kelsey first.
He was fucking Kelsey first.
It's a fact.
It's true.
So if we're just thinking on nigga rules.
But he was fucking Meg more recently, though.
You're bugging.
Yeah, like, at that time. Nigga rules. Fam more recently though. You're bugging. Yeah, like,
at that time.
Nigga rules.
Fam, you,
stop it, yo.
I get what you're saying.
Stop, let me talk to him now.
If you're fucking a girl,
that's who you're fucking.
Mm-hmm.
And her finer friend,
or not say finer friend,
but more poppin' friend,
you later find out
wants to give you something.
I'm not saying
you're not going to do it,
but there's a whole lot
you got to think about
as a man.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, you can't be
at the same family boat. Especially if they don't know. And I'm going to, wait,'m not saying you're not going to do it, but there's a whole lot you got to think about as a man. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you can't be at the same family boat.
Especially if they don't know.
And I'm going to, wait, wait,
and you're going to take both of them to Kylie Jenner house
knowing, hey, I might want to pop her.
Yeah.
That's all I'm saying is as a man,
you got to think about these things.
He was moving crazy.
He was moving crazy.
Yeah, stop it, yo.
It's meant we got to point this shit out.
Nigga was moving loco out of here.
Nah, he was, he was.
Nigga was moving nuts.
He was moving with his arrogance, like all Nah, he was. He was. Nigga was moving nuts. He was moving with his arrogance.
Like all fucking.
He moved with that quarantine radio arrogance, man.
All these niggas do that.
Then don't lose your arrogance when she tells you your music ain't good.
No, you.
Be arrogant.
Go home.
No, but.
Go.
No, this is the funny part.
Damn, bitch.
Go ahead on about your business.
But this is the funny part.
They said that, yo, he was chilling.
Kylie Jenner was trying to, was flirting with him. she got upset so it hurt people hurt people so now you feeling
stupid because it's a bigger star than you here that's on my dick so now your way that you shoot
at me is to say nigga that's why your music is trash my music is trash but i'm fucking you in
you no he's my music really i want to add'm fucking you in you. No, he's right.
So is my music really trash, bitch?
I want to add this to your point when I'm talking about clout chasers.
And this be the problem.
If you do it once, you do it again.
So if I'm clout chasing with Meg and now a Kardashian comes by and the fireplace is lit by the indoor pool with the 1942 going around.
Meg, who?
Yeah.
So I'm back on my shit.
Or Meg might just be the-
Hey man, you don't do that
when we end up in the spots
where we move like them niggas.
When we end up in them places
that hey,
we might not have should have been in,
we moving like them niggas
with diligence.
True.
We ain't just loosey-goosey.
But Joe,
we coming from a different upbringing.
We are coming from,
we've seen shit happen to people.
This boy is a 27 yearyear-old millionaire, 28-year-old millionaire that thinks he has no cares in the world.
I ain't going to lie.
I think you put 99% of people in that position.
Men in that position, they do the same thing.
And you see, granted, he shouldn't have been there.
You should have been there with those two, knowing that one don't know that you're fucking on the other.
That was always going to be a fight.
That's a fight waiting to happen right however if you're in that room and you're in a mixy room
and you see the like the social media clout queen you see the girl with the most followers on
planet and she's flirting with you in the pool my nigga at 28 years old you go you fucking meg
kelsey don't know you go you fucking meg kelsey don't know you go you fucking
kelsey meg don't know you already think you the man yeah you are and they the homies like these
my homies then i'm gonna go with them they my homies we fucking we've had girls that we casually
fuck you know better than that i know better than that i definitely say six years old i don't know
if i know better than that at 28 and i got a shit ton of money and i'm old. I don't know if I know better than that at 28, and I got a shit ton of money, and I'm a star.
I don't know if I have the same discernment.
I'll tell you one thing that's interesting,
like even in how the prosecutors present the case.
Remember, they start off with, oh, yeah, they're at a party,
and now they're in the car, and now he insults or she insults his music.
They forgot the whole, they're not even trying to paint the picture of,
they're at a party, Meg is. She out really just and gets all these people are very
intoxicated so now this is why I'm with Joe with the day this is this
impairment is obviously affected everybody's judgment and if we really
gonna have this talk which we are not because this is a public broadcast.
In the event that in your scenario
we go somewhere
and the girl that's
super, super poppin'
is on us,
but let's say she a little tipsy.
And let's say
a couple niggas from town beat.
And a couple niggas from town
let us know your dog
when she get,
when she get,
it gets.
Like we have those talks,
this man.
Absolutely.
More reason to just move With a little more
Dick
Now hold on
I'm gonna interject
Hold up
Wait wait wait
Add the fact that
He probably drunk too
You ain't thinking like that
He's a cooler drunk
He's a cooler drunk
He's a cooler drunk Yo we doing cooler drunk he's a cooler drunk we
throwing a shit ton of variables and I am NOT I'm acting like you give a lot of
blame for being there dog the last year blame of domestic violence you have to
go home and figure out guilty or not how how you got in that spot. That's true.
That's not even a domestic violence thing.
Any bad situation
you get in, you go home.
I've been in a cell and I'm thinking,
what the fuck am I doing here? I shouldn't be here.
When you in the hospital over some
bullshit, you sitting there and you beating yourself up.
If you're the type of person to take accountability
for your actions, I should have did this.
I went wrong here. I went wrong here I went wrong here
I should have gotten a cab
something told me to leave
you go through all of those scenarios
I'm not trying to be hard on him
what I'm saying is
him being 28 years old
he ain't wrong
for being at a
popping pool party
in LA
with the stars
and I'm a star
one thing about that
is at 28
he's already been popping
for a little minute
so this is not his first rodeo
of being around some shit
which means
this might be normal for him.
To both of y'all point,
this is why I contextualized that I'm sorry
that he supposedly said
to both of the women.
Sure.
To say, listen,
I realize I was bugging.
I shouldn't have done that.
I was bugging.
I shouldn't even have been
present over there.
Now it's going to be up
to interpretation
because other people
are going to be like,
nah, he apologizing
for shooting the gun.
In reality,
if you think about everything you're saying,
he's probably saying,
listen, I did put you in a position
where there was going to be some type of fight.
Any real man is going to send an apology afterward.
I should have never fucked Kelsey behind your back.
I should have never fucked you
and didn't tell you that I already fucked Kelsey.
Yo, my bad.
I played a part in us getting where we are.
I agree. I agree. But they going to spend it. I played a part in us getting where we are. I agree.
I agree.
But they going to spin it.
I think they're going to.
If I was the fucking prosecutor, I would spin it.
What you apologizing for?
I think that Meg's credibility is about to take a major hit in the coming weeks because I don't think they're going to play with her up there.
Well, here's the thing.
I think they're going to really get into it.
And that's the scary part about trial.
Trial.
It's not the result. I don't're going to really get into it. And that's the scary part about trial. Trial. It's not the result.
I don't think the prosecution
ever wanted to go to trial.
That's why the cause is going to be so important, though,
because I'm telling you,
Meg going to give a,
I don't want to call it a performance,
but them tears going to come.
It's coming.
Them tears going to come.
Facts.
Facts.
Take your time, man.
Let me get you some tissue.
Yeah, it's got to be,
it got to be one of them Amber Heard joints.
My questions are still my fucking questions. It got to be one of them Heard's joints. My questions are still my fucking questions.
It's got to be one
of Amber Heard's joints.
When you wipe your tears,
I'm back on your ass.
It's got to be one
of Amber Heard's joints.
However-
You see what happened
to her, don't you?
Yeah.
No, Meg going to give it to him.
She's a performer.
That's why I believe
the defense attorney
got to go crazy.
She performs.
By the way, she told him
she's only available
today and tomorrow,
so it's only,
you know, which obviously they'll- that's why she's coming in today.
She gave them a schedule saying I'm only free for two days.
You know what I mean?
And that's why she's in today that possibly if, say, the prosecution takes the entire day today.
They could.
Right?
The defense will get tomorrow to, you know, finish up and kind of do their cross. And let me tell you something.
tomorrow to finish up and kind of do their cross.
Man, let me tell you something.
And if the fence does not finish tomorrow,
if the judge don't make her come back on Thursday,
all hell going to break loose in that courtroom.
I agree, too.
Fuck you talking about.
You don't schedule the court's days.
I can only be here this day.
Fuck, what?
This is your charge.
We doing this for you.
Yeah.
Nigga.
This shit is going to gonna be This shit better than
All the other trials
That we've seen
It's a lot of money
Behind her yo
That's all I can say
It is a shit ton of money
Behind her
You can see
You can see
They've been preparing
All of this
Yeah
You know what I thought
Was interesting
Even that
Chris Jenner's
I don't know if it's
A husband or boyfriend
He's about to take it
I think
Something gotta be
In the ear
Because you gotta realize Chris Jenner's really Shrewd operator Allowing or boyfriend he's about to take. I think something got to be in the ear because you got to realize
Chris Jenner's really shrewd operator.
Allowing somebody,
even if it's Kylie or-
In a circle to even get-
To get on the stand.
They could have fight that subpoena.
That weak ass subpoena,
they could fight it.
You get what I mean?
So even if that happens,
what that tells me is that
despite all the backing behind Meg,
which we have now realized, you know, even
Tory himself said, hey, listen,
two days after this shit happened, Rot Nation
called me, said, nigga, I heard you about to make a statement. It would be
your best interest not to. So
there is a lot of,
there's a lot of interest that aligned with
Meg also coming out of this
not looking like a liar. Victorious.
There's a lot of interest. Or
even if you, if you, if a lot of interest. Or even if you
view the money behind Meg,
even if you get a hung jury,
it still says,
I was telling the truth.
It was just a mistrial,
but I was still telling the truth.
So the money could still
keep pouring in.
Actually, more money
might pour in.
It's in their best interest
to not have this boy
get found innocent.
Because a mistrial still has it up in the air.
Maybe I'm telling the truth, maybe I'm not.
It still raises a doubt of what took place.
It's in everybody's best interest monetarily to have this boy not be found innocent.
Is there a scenario where Torrey gets found innocent
and people say,
it's like one of them,
like R. Kelly trials,
be like, yo,
nah, that nigga still did it.
We're like,
absolutely.
Oh no,
there's a wave that's already,
they don't care what this trial says.
I would say that's actually
pretty likely.
Yeah, that's true.
Really?
Fact, absolutely.
But I think the more realistic scenario
is what Ish is painting
where it ends up being
up in the air.
No one will ever know.
I actually feel like if Tori gets off of this case, I think Meg's credibility, I think a
lot of people are going to move a little bit differently.
That's the thing that's scary.
You go to trial and realize you win nothing.
I think it's the opposite.
I think they've been prepping for that.
All of the cleaning up her image and all of the documentary and everything they're pushing
is to paint her in this light that no matter what
happens here, this is who she is. This is the thing.
If she gets on the stand
and to use
Amber Heard,
if they do to her on the stand
what they did to her,
it's a wrap. I don't think so.
There's too much money behind her. I know she
won't say what it takes. She said she want to see that nigga
under the jail. That's what she said. Too much money behind her. I know she won't say what it takes. She said she wanted to see that nigga under the jail. That's what she said.
That's what she said.
Too much money.
And that's why I don't fuck with her.
And at the end of the day, she is still a victim, like we said at the beginning of this whole shit.
So I think that she'll be fine, no matter what.
I don't.
Realistically.
I think if they get up there and they catch her in some lies, and she start double talking and all of that stuff, bro, this is the internet age.
She getting on that stand with hundreds and thousands of hours of practice.
Probably.
Hey, I was having a conversation.
If she fuck up,
you ain't under pressure until
when them lights come on.
It can go bad.
Nigga, we've all practiced
a million hours of football
and basketball
until it's game seven.
I also don't think that
her demographic
and her fan base
and where they're gearing
her demographic and fan base
to gives a fuck.
This is not like
street rappers going against.
I don't, I don't, I don't.
You think Disney Channel gives a fuck?
Oh, no, no.
Okay, maybe not like that.
What I'm trying to say,
I have seen a lot of what I would believe
her intended core audience,
which is a lot of women.
I've seen them kind of go from blindly support
to say maybe the same what it is.
And I'm just seeing more and more people
even raise an eyebrow to it
where I think this trial
is probably going to push those people to say
that maybe we were misled.
I've seen the opposite.
Yeah, I've seen that.
Pretty steadfast.
I've seen the opposite.
And I'm going to stop here.
No, go.
They still saying she,
because the one fact we know is
she still got injured.
Yeah.
So she is still a victim
and that's all they going off of. They don't care about the, yo, she's still a victim is she still got injured. Yeah. So she is still a victim, and that's all they going off of.
They don't care about the, yo, she's still a victim.
She still got shot.
Which is true, though.
Well, that got turned up, though.
Again, nobody's discounting that she's a victim of something that happened that night.
Victim of is important to note.
She has squarely said, that nigga did it.
He shot me.
So if it comes out that that girl Kelsey shot her, my nigga, I think her credibility is shot,
and I think her career may be finished.
I don't think so.
Yeah, I don't.
Kelsey taking the stand for Meg
when we know that she don't fuck with Meg
does spell that.
It's something like something.
Yeah, gotta be a deal.
Gotta be a deal.
Some spiciness, especially when they wasn't people.
Even when you hear her explain it,
she say, yo, shit, like,
it doesn't even sound like, it sounds like she say yo shit like it doesn't even sound like it sounds like she says yo it shouldn't have got this far like when she was
explaining this whole thing and be like yo hey listen meg and by the way goes to contradict and
kind of you know makes meg's credibility like waver a little bit when she's like yo listen
you the one that keep taking my nigga you know know what I mean? Like she said it. She actually said it. And Ben Simmons,
you know what, buddy?
Nah, Ben Simmons don't know that woman.
Your name just, you know.
That's what Ben said?
Yeah, well,
it was supposedly confirmed to sources
that he don't know her,
but he put up the thing
where Rick Ross was saying lies
or whatever the case is.
Yeah, but you even did that too fast.
Clout chasey ass.
I'm telling y'all, when you can identify these clout-chasey ass niggas.
He got too many problems on the actual basketball court.
He don't want to be involved in no other courts right now.
No other courts, man.
Yo, do y'all think the people that are super wealthy and important don't hear things that are said about them?
Yeah, but the Nets is out here suspending niggas.
I want to separate myself
From idiot and shit
Yeah
Lies
I did not have
Sexual relations
With that woman fam
You buggin
And if that's where
Ben Simmons priority is
Then bro
Got it
Joe
Here's another one
And what
Add him on my list
And what we saying
My hate list
I hate all these niggas There we go
I hate this man
I hate him
Hold on
I hate him
I hate him
He's 20
How old has it been
27, 28
You keep thinking
These niggas is kids
27 is a man
27 you grew up
In the internet age
When shit gets said about you
You respond to it
You have to
You respond to that
We don't
I don't think
That should ever
Enter our conversation.
No, but you're saying he clout chasey because he said lies.
I'm saying he's clout chasey because there are 97 trillion things he should be focusing on outside of replying to something that's happening in a court case.
Shit, my nigga, my name is.
It's the biggest court case in the country right now.
And I have a girlfriend.
I wasn't mentioned at all. I have a girlfriend. That's the biggest court case in the country right now. And now out of nowhere. And I have a girlfriend. I wasn't mentioned at all.
I have a girlfriend.
That's the takeaway from day one.
Like, dog, I think he got a girlfriend.
Hold on.
You responded rather quick, though.
I will say, like, he responded so quick.
I responded immediately.
I think he has a fiance or a girlfriend that two years ago, three years ago, he might have been involved with.
Boo, I don't know these girls.
It wasn't me.
Listen, his quick response tells me that he popped
no he definitely fucking popped with his nasty ass yo i'm surprised you're shooting everywhere
but where you're supposed to shoot i'm surprised the baby's not on the witness got a lawsuit
against one team went to another team won't do shit over there like that i hate this and i like
his girl too i like his girl bet you do I like his girl. I bet you do.
She's super cool.
Who's his girl?
I'm going to say.
See, that's how
you get niggas.
That's how you get
niggas.
I'm surprised the baby
down on the witness list.
Apparently,
Meg fucking them
both at the same time.
He smashed the night
before.
Maybe he knows
something.
I'm bringing that
nigga on the stand,
man.
And he said,
he kind of hinted to that in the
summertime. Yeah. We've seen what he
does with microphones in front of him.
An important, important moment.
You think we're putting him on the stand right now?
And another thing about these gays.
Let me tell you
what, you know, they cut me off
before. Let me tell you what else
they be sucking dick.
I have some more to say.
Yo, y'all playing with my man, baby, man.
Rosa Parks is a plant.
You start giving niggas mics, they just start saying whatever.
Let me throw this
into the air.
I think number one, the blackballing
for Tory kind of started letting up.
Yeah.
Slightly.
It did.
However, if he gets off this this case does this catapult him in
probably a new level of his career where his music probably couldn't get there by itself
not saying he's not talented he's definitely way talented but it's gonna now if he gets off being
the guy who was crucified and say people actually really believe that,
oh, Meg just lied on you,
and you've lost out on all this, that, and third,
he's now, he's going to come back into people's good graces,
but does it put his career in a different stratosphere
of maybe he'll gain support from people
who may have not fucked with him in the beginning?
Unfortunately, I don't think so.
I don't see that one happening.
You don't see that happening?
Yeah, I don't see it happening.
I think that is indeed the case.
I think people will still be on some, well, let's fuck him anyway. Yeah. Unfortunately, I don't think so. I don't see that one. You don't see that one? Yeah, I don't see it happening. I think. If that is indeed the case, I think people will still be on some, well, let's fuck him
anyway.
Yeah.
Unfortunately.
Unfortunately.
His music is already fire.
Yeah.
So, two or three smashes, though.
I'll tell you what, though.
I've talked to people who believe that he'll be the biggest he's ever been.
Well, I'm going to tell you.
I'll tell you this, though.
If he do get acquitted, whatever he come out with,
he's going to talk his shit for real.
Because he's been wanting to talk his shit on the record
for a minute.
He's been trying to.
He really going to get to talking then.
Now this is over and I can say something?
OK.
Watch this.
You're going to get a triple disc.
Yeah, that might be true.
Oh, no.
He's coming.
He might have the shit written on it.
That nigga snatched.
That nigga snatched R. Kelly shit
right off the stands.
You won't profit
off this, buddy.
How did that shit come out?
And niggas said
the shit is fire.
That's what they won't tell us.
Ish.
No, I'm saying,
they was like,
yo, dog,
your man Joe.
They like,
yo, Joe,
tell Joe this shit's smoking.
Tell Joe.
No.
Don't tell Joe.
Okay.
Was this shit fire, though?
I didn't hear a thing.
Come on, man.
I stopped laughing.
I was bumping that shit in the shower. I'm going to keep it up. I think the greatest songwriter your final? I didn't hear a thing. Come on, man. I stopped laughing. But what I heard,
I mean,
I was bumping that shit in the shower. I'm going to keep it up.
I think the greatest songwriter
in the history
just forgot how to write a song.
Look,
I ain't like the bullshit
they tried to pull.
Yo, this is a fake.
This wasn't supposed to drop.
Yo, I wasn't rolling with that.
That was a new heat.
You took the little old
I Admit It record,
broke it up into three parts
because that shit came out in 2018.
That nigga was describing
what I was doing in my house.
And it was all in legacy.
You going to the Keurig right now.
I can see if I came out with some bullshit, I'd be like, oh yeah.
By the way, Joe, you definitely
gave a 360,
well not 360, 180 on, I feel like
at first you were like, man, Tory did this shit.
I swear I was listening to the podcast one time
and you were like, man, I was in the shower
and I had to hop out of the shower and turn that shit off.
You might f*** me, I don't know. I'm not and I had to hop out of the shower and turn that shit off, man. You might as well, man. I don't know.
I'm not vouching for it
one way or the other. Do I
think that he did that? Hold on.
With the intention to harm Meg
the Stallion? I do not believe that.
I don't believe that. I'm not one of the people who
be like, yo, yeah, I can't listen to music because it's
some shit. I don't believe that he
pulled the gun out and
intentionally tried to harm one of the biggest rappers in the world. when it comes to that and intentionally tried to arm
one of the biggest
rappers in the world
I just went to a wedding
man
I had to
and surprised
it was my brother's wedding
all of a sudden
they're like
yo listen
if I had a DJ
you got a DJ
and I'm like
I'm trying to put together
a little list for
like the
snap
snap
yo can we just get rid
of that myth right now
yo
you dropped the DJ
from your name
right now
it's just academics.
It's whatever.
I don't care.
It used to bother me.
You, Vlad.
I'd rather people call me just academics.
You know what I mean?
There we go.
I'd rather people call me academics.
And to be honest, if it wasn't-
Or go by your real name now.
You're up now.
You could just be-
Just Livingston?
That's it.
Jesus Christ, that's some rich nigga shit right there.
That's what I'm saying.
DJ's like 20 times.
Now you got to be touching a good nine figures for that, man.
Nine?
Yeah.
Damn it.
Honey mill.
Expectancy out there is getting tougher and tougher.
Nine figures.
Nah, nigga's getting money out here, man.
I think Adam say he making two million a here, man. I think Adam, Adam,
say you're making two million a month,
man.
I'm a pocket watcher.
It's like my biggest.
I can't say anything
because the second I do.
You making two million too?
No,
I'm just saying
there'll be 30 think pieces
on why I hate Adam
or why I'm hating on Adam.
Now,
I ain't gonna lie.
Adam did come in here
and dissect y'all though.
I'm gonna be honest.
Handle these niggas.
Nah,
you nigga. Oh. You said handle these niggas. Nah, you nigga.
Oh.
He said handle these niggas.
No,
because.
He said handle me.
These are my cameras.
I taped it.
I wouldn't care what happened.
I wish he would have
fought one of us.
I keep trying to get
these niggas to stage a fight.
Oh no,
that was wild.
Did I tell you
on the stage a fight?
That was wild.
That was wild.
That was wild.
I ain't gonna lie.
The whole fighting shit
that they did.
Yeah.
I ain't gonna lie. He says it to me too they did, yeah, I ain't going to lie.
He sent it to me too.
He said,
yo,
check this out.
He said,
please don't leak it.
I said,
what the fuck?
Please don't.
You know what that means,
right?
Please leak it.
Please leak this.
He dropped that shit
on the timeline.
I was in disbelief,
man.
I'm like,
yo,
shit.
They gave me all the,
like,
I'm on some ghetto fuckery shit.
I'm like, this nigga got whole fights going on.
That might be the wave.
And let me tell you something.
If I go get married, that's going to sound like hate.
Let me shut up.
Well, it's not the wave, but it's like.
That's the wave, man?
I was about to hate.
It's clearly not the wave, but that's the type of content.
You know what I mean?
It's coming out.
You know what I mean?
I won't say it's the wave, but, you know, I'm glad I passed that out. You know what I mean? I won't say it's away, but, you know,
I'm glad I passed that.
I will tell Ian to call
OnlyFans tomorrow.
Let them know that Joe Budden
is getting married next week
and they're going to go
all across the country
to find willing women
that want to just sleep
with him and his wife.
How much do you think
I make them up?
I'm out of here.
He's already pitching.
I'm out of here.
But see what I mean?
See what I mean?
You sound like you had
that already down.
I'm just saying,
see what I mean? Like, two million a month. That's had that already down. I'm just saying. See what I mean?
Like, $2 million a month.
That's the other thing about y'all niggas.
Y'all just get ready.
I'm making $100 million a month.
Fuck it.
I'm telling you.
Fuck it.
Clip it.
Fuck it.
I'm telling you.
Fuck it.
Clip it, man.
Yeah, clip it.
I'm making $100 million a month.
Catch up.
Nah, man.
Because I be trying to compete.
No, yo, Joe.
I try to compete. Like, I feel like we're all in the same league. So I'm trying to compete. They don't have to just be anything. Nah, yo, Joe. I try to compete, like, I feel like we all in the same league, so I'm trying to make
sure I'm-
No, you're trying to see the pecking order of-
Facts, you know.
Come on now, of course.
All right, today, where you got the pecking order?
And as soon as I heard that nigga say two million, and he was breaking it down, he said,
yeah-
You started making phone calls?
I get like 1.5 from fucking chicks, I'm like, damn.
Like, nigga, I ain't gonna lie, chicks. I'm like, damn.
I ain't going to lie, the next time I had sex,
I had to record that shit on my iPhone to see my stroke.
I had to see like, yo, maybe.
Maybe.
Fuck it.
I might get 1.5, but $800,000 could come my way.
Fuck it.
I'm with you, dog.
Come on.
All right, so where you got your pecking order now after years of pocket watching?
Pecking order?
All right, cool.
As far as money?
It's tax season, too.
It's tax season.
Okay.
Tell the truth.
I'm definitely at the bottom.
Tell the truth.
Yeah, look.
No, no.
You talking about media niggas?
You talking about media niggas?
Yeah, get your shit off.
Come on.
Hey, somebody listening remote,
clip this. Okay. I think. Hey. For whatever reason. Somebody listening remote, clip this.
Okay.
I think Charmin makes the most money.
Okay.
Come on, put a name on that bullet.
At around what?
If Adam's getting $2 million a month.
That's $25 million.
Oh, hold on, hold on.
Wait, wait, never mind, never mind.
I forgot.
If Adam is at $20 million.
But he's cheating the game of porn.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
I'm looking at the stroke game now.
I'm like, I'm going to have to get up in the morning.
I'm going to have to get up in the morning.
Like, I got the greatest hits.
Like, a good five.
Like, a greatest hits collection.
Yeah, but porn to Adam is anxiety for Charlamagne.
All right, hold on.
So, am I ranking him?
Come on.
They both just.
Do you wake up with anxiety in the mornings?
Yo.
Why y'all ain't cool yet, man?
We missed the yearly wrap-up, brother.
Yo.
Y'all been letting niggas be anxious for about seven years.
Yo, we need a yearly wrap-up, man.
What's good?
I will be in Punta Cana somewhere.
Doing a wrap-up.
I'll be wrapping something up.
I can do it on Revolt.
That'd be great.
I can do it on Revolt.
See, I like the Revolt, too. I'll be wrapping something up. I can do a revolt. That'd be great. I can do a revolt. See, I don't have to revolt, too.
I fuck with revolt.
Anyway, no, no.
I can't count the poor money, bro.
We not doing poor.
We talking about what you get from putting in work on these mics.
We're having a plan.
All right, Charlamagne's first.
Yeah.
At what?
In money, if someone.
I said, but you said put a dollar amount to it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll be saying that.
I'll be thinking he probably pulling
at least.
I love when niggas pocket wine.
It makes for great content.
I say about like 15 million a year.
15.
You said 15, one five?
What's the laugh for?
I feel like I just like.
No, no, no.
No, I'm just saying.
No, no, I think, I miss? No I'm just saying I think
He should be in the range of
15
20
15
I'm going to say 15
Okay
Second
Second
Mine ain't on this list
Me neither
Don't put me on this list
Don't put me on this list
I love pocket watching
Please don't put me
Please don't put me on this list
I want nothing to do with this list
Most of my pocket watching for you
Is just coming from your fit game
I'm like oh shit Joe getting it Yeah I haven't even seen the whips yet Please don't put me on this list. I want nothing to do with this list. Most of my pocket watching for you is just coming from your fit game.
I'm like, oh, shit, Joe getting it.
Yeah, yeah. I haven't even seen the whips yet.
Never seen the money back in person, bro.
Please keep me off your list.
Now, who's second?
Second.
Come on.
I love a little bit.
Unfortunately, I think that's probably the only person in radio or media.
Okay.
Like radio.
Get to number two.
If I got him at 15,
I really should be 20.
I'm about to smoke.
20.
I ain't gonna lie to you.
I got DJ
Vlad up there, man. I got DJ Vlad at about... Vlad at number two? you. I got DJ Vlad up there, man.
I got DJ Vlad at about... Vlad at number two?
All right.
I got Vlad around like 10.
Okay.
That's 10 a year.
Big jump from one to two.
Might be a little bit more, but okay.
20 million at one and 10 million at two.
Obviously, I'm forgetting some middle-old people.
The rest of us, buddy.
This lizard's getting bad.
He loves this.
Holy shit.
He loves this.
Let me see you after that.
This guy's the greatest.
This is awesome.
Yeah, without the porn money, I got Adam at three.
Without the porn money.
We got to take the porn money out of here.
So just off platform.
Without the porn money, Adam, to three.
Yeah.
All right, give me four.
And I ain't going to lie,
I think after that,
I don't know what Nori get,
but Nori got to be at least
getting like close to 10,
bro.
I don't know what's going
on out here.
So everybody just got 10
million.
Nah, I'm not saying,
it would be wild if they're
not getting, what?
All right.
At least over five.
Let me just say five to 10.
It's your list.
Okay, five to 10.
It's your list.
Do what you want with your list.
Where you falling?
Where you falling?
I was just about to say.
Who, me?
Yeah, where you falling?
I ain't on this list.
I ain't on this list.
I'm going to tell you what.
I feel like you falling.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no.
I got a number for you.
What's my number?
Let me see here.
Come on, give it to me.
3.5 million.
I told you to leave me off the it to me. 3.5 million.
I told you to leave me off the list.
I think 3.5 million, man.
First of all, I'm not supposed to be on your list because we work together.
We're supposed to have like a sacred bond.
But apparently I've learned from my past co-workers.
Hold on.
I've had to pocket watch you even harder because, you know what I mean,
it was definitely controversial when people seen you, like, you just went independent
after, you know what I mean, you were with Spotify.
So I just said, damn, where the money really coming from?
Or let me see, I was looking over there, man.
Why are men like that, yo?
We could really unpack this right now
because he's telling the truth.
This is men.
That's not bad.
But why are we like this?
Because y'all in the same competitive space, so.
I don't view it like that.
Do you view me as competition?
No, I don't even say competition.
We sat up here and talked about how Lamar Jackson is looking at all the other quarterbacks in the NFL that are starting quarterbacks.
And when I go pitch to Baltimore, I'm going to look at what Mahomes got.
I'm going to look at what D.Y. I got.
I'm going to look at what all these people got to make sure I'm in that same realm.
what dy i got i'm gonna look at what all these people got to make sure i'm in that same realm so academics should look at your salary charlemagne salary gillian wallow and look at the field
and make sure that if i'm the best in my craft i'm somewhere in the middle of the field and it's also
sometimes like you know subconsciously it might be maybe i'm aggressive with it like i'm looking
at dollar signs or i'm trying to but it could could be as, damn, yo, this nigga got a living butler.
Like, obviously, don't.
But like, why am I not getting that?
You know what I mean?
It's one of those things.
Wild got Benson.
Yeah, you actually subliminally do it.
Like, wait, damn, this nigga living like that?
Man, I got to step my shit up, nigga.
Like, me and him supposed to be, you know me, in the same league.
Well, you got show tap.
That's kind of interesting.
So you don't really pocket watch?
No, no, because he's a comedian.
You play play pocket watch.
Like, you don't really dedicate yourself to the pocket watching.
Well, I think Schultz is at definitely like around 5 million.
All right, so Schultz at 5.
I'm at 5, you said, or 3?
3.5.
I'm at 3.
I'm at the bottom.
Wait, wait. Holy shit, wait. I'm at the bottom. Wait.
Wait.
Holy shit.
Wait.
Nah, you got someone to beat by. I'm at 3.5, and everybody else is leaps and bounds above me.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
No, they all beating me by like a million and up.
Well, we talking about like the top 1%.
Obviously, below that, we have a few more players.
I will take it.
I will gladly take the bottom of the top
1%.
Am I off by?
You are off by a lot.
I ain't talking about me.
No, you too high for me.
He is.
No, I'm not. I swear to something.
You are too high for me.
But everybody else,
you're going crazy out here.. You looking at the wrong shit.
Okay.
Now, I think I'm right.
I think I'm pretty right.
Like, I'm going on certain things I know.
These niggas be broke, man.
I don't care how many black-owned t-shirts they wear.
Yo.
Hey, I don't give a.
Hey, I don't give a.
Y'all can keep dressing it up with.
Hey.
Yo, what's wrong with this guy right here?
Look at this anxiety hoodie.
I don't care.
I don't care how much they dress it up, buddy.
See, you can't just talk
and everything I say is hey.
Yo, what's wrong with this guy?
Anything you say is hey.
That's hate right there.
That's hate.
That's hate.
I don't think that's hate.
Yo, you show me, bro.
You think you show me, bro?
Now you put words in my mouth.
I'm asking. I don't think that none of. You don't think Charmin broke? You think Charmin broke? Now you put words in my mouth. I'm asking.
I don't think that
none of us are broke,
thank God.
Okay, good.
See, and that's why
I don't really look
at none of y'all.
I always look at me.
Like, I know where
I was at in 2012,
2013, 2014,
2015, 2016,
2017, 2018,
2019,
like,
I try to stay there
to keep things within
the realm of where they should be, number one. And number two, like I try to stay there to keep things within within the realm where
they should be number one and number two like I was just telling somebody on the
reddit chat I try to pocket watch the people that are where I want to be not
the people that are where I am right like we all I get that we all in the
same space in some form of the same ballpark.
I'm trying to see how Steve Harvey built that, how Kevin Hart built that.
How do you take your $1 million or your $5 million or $10 million and turn it into $100, $200?
That's when these niggas really start getting to it.
I have Vlad moving up the list the moment he started talking back to all the goddamn rappers.
He be sunning them.
He be letting them know, you niggas ain't shit you need me Vlad broke too
nah Vlad broke too that nigga just started wearing my shirt nah Vlad got some money he
just started cleaning up a little listen I ain't trying to pull Vlad for some business
hey Vladimir you still a bum nigga I don't give a fuck what I don't get hey what's this
up with yo and then we started with positivity.
We started with, yo, if you could dead it, dead it.
Technically, Vlad got the biggest platform.
He got the biggest platform in hip hop right now.
But if we're going strictly by data and numbers.
That don't mean nothing to me.
That don't mean.
But let me ask you this.
It's over for that.
Some niggas out there still trying to have the biggest platform.
Let me ask you a question.
If people wanted to do what he does,
you don't think that
those numbers could roll
right into...
If somebody followed his lead,
let's say Joe,
hypothetically,
followed his lead...
Don't say Joe,
even hypothetically.
No, if Joe wanted to sit up here
and interview all the rappers
and do all of the salacious,
nasty shit,
you don't think
the numbers would go there?
Yeah. You don't think he numbers will go there? Yeah.
You don't think he'll get
another 100,000
Patreon subscribers?
Yeah.
No, I agree.
If behind closed doors
and behind a paywall,
Joe interviewed
all these little young,
shoot them up,
bang, bang,
Roscoe on them,
you don't think his numbers
will go through the roof?
No, I agree.
Yeah, but the other thing,
I don't like that either.
So is that really
a benchmark, though?
You get what I'm saying?
It's a benchmark
because people's history
is unique to them, right?
So who Vlad is
and who he's been
since 2008
and what he's done
in the space
to progress it
plays a part in that.
So you can't cheapen it
after the work is done
and say,
hey, if he did that,
he could do it, right?
Like niggas look at Ak
and say, nigga,
if I get on Twitch
and sit down
and just talk 24-7, I can do it.
No, you can't.
No, you can't.
Because you're missing a big chunk of that.
I think everybody in the space is equally important, if I'm going to be honest.
I think everybody is needed.
I think I don't look at all of you niggas because everybody do something that Joe don't do.
Right?
Like, I can't do what you do.
I got what you when you learned me about all these little fuckity fucks.
You learned me about
the SoundCloud generation.
Like,
you learned me some things.
Vlad,
for whatever you want to say about him,
he's got 10 years
of sit in front of this.
Legitimacy.
I'm off camera.
This is what we doing.
He has a portfolio.
Charlamagne,
more of the same.
Gillian Wallow,
I'm tired just watching their Instagram.
I can't do what they doing. I ain't gonna lie, they'm tired just watching their Instagram. I can't do what they're doing.
I ain't going to lie.
They are great on Instagram, man.
I can't do what they're doing.
And I ain't trying to.
It's like Fosk is today.
Everybody got it.
Yeah, niggas is doing a lot.
Everybody got to design their life and their career how it best suits them.
I'm trying to design mine to get busy from the crib, on the phone.
Joe AI now sitting here.
Like, I'm trying to move that way.
If we keep watching each other,
then we ain't even sharing the information
to help each other build.
Have you thought about that?
That's why I like your sports example, right?
Because in sports,
Lamar Jackson should be watching everybody
because he cheering on Pat Mahomes
or whoever that person is getting paid
because I'm next in line to get it.
In the content space,
the big companies that cut you a big check,
the first thing they tell you is,
shh.
Don't tell nobody what it is.
Shh.
So now that leaves the room
for all the lies that get told
because the company ain't going to blow it up
and you ain't going to blow it up.
One.
And two,
damn, I forgot the fucking point I was making.
Just that fast.
I agree with that though because that's a tactic.
Because now if everybody knows.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
So if it's a secret, the next company asks for that.
Exactly.
So if it's a secret here, now ACT might not be rooting for Joe to go get 100 mil.
Or Charlamagne might not be rooting for Joe to get it.
Because that don't speak to the next in line shit that goes on in sports.
Over here, they tell all of us to keep it a secret.
But I think it does.
And I think they do the divide and conquer on purpose.
And you subscribe to it.
So I think that if you go get 150 mil, I think you should be on the phone with Ack.
I think you should be on the phone with Charlamagne.
I think you should be on the phone with Gilly saying, yo, between us, I got a buck 50.
Y'all niggas go in there and get what y'all worth.
The fact that you keep it and you don't tell nobody now, that does allow ACT to go in there and get $20 million.
When you got $150, they was willing to give ACT $90.
They was willing to give ACT $130.
You only got $30 because Joe didn't tell you,
yo, they got a bag over there and they giving it away,
and I ain't get it.
I agree.
The day changes with the different companies.
True.
It's an interesting conversation.
No, I'm just saying, but you get what I'm saying?
I think if you're behind closed doors.
I was on with information before.
That's like when fucking,
that's like when Dame, right?
Dame had called me and somebody else out
for not sharing the Spotify plug
when we were at Spotify.
It was like,
Joe, man,
we're supposed to build and share the information.
And Dame is my man.
Dame has loaned me money,
gave me information.
He's always been solid with me.
So that hurt when I saw him say that.
But we didn't kick it for him to know,
dog, I ain't on good terms with these niggas.
I can't plug, I can't plug you in
and I'm over here,
I'm over here fighting for my life.
Hey, with you, when I was going to revolt,
I was like, yo,
I think we can get more money with Puff.
I got to respect when you say
I'm not following behind you over there
and I ain't heard from them niggas. You leaving, I get more over here.uff. I got to respect when you say I'm not following behind you over there and I ain't heard
from them niggas.
You leaving,
I get more over here.
Got to respect that, right?
The different companies,
I think it should be a union.
I do.
Hey, let me ask you a question
because I think now it's like-
But that's how it starts though.
Niggas too selfish to hear.
I think this conversation
is really relevant now
because especially
with Angela Yee
leaving the breakfast club,
I feel like all platforms
are in an interesting space.
I don't know if there's necessarily any platform
that if, for example,
whether it's an artist trying to promote an album,
there's not one platform that as soon as you go on,
it's just super radioactive.
I feel like everybody got their own little,
yeah, if you're this type of artist,
or you're a legend, drink champs, okay.
Might be street dude, okay.
You with Gillian Wallo, blah, blah, blah.
But there's no platform where I feel like as soon as you're on it, it's just like everybody.
But that's a good thing.
And Breakfast Club had it at one time, right?
They did.
Damn.
I was just even looking.
I'm like, A Boogie, he did a Breakfast Club interview.
And I was like, I still think people
are kind of unaware
that his album dropped, right?
Before it used to be
as soon as you're
on this platform,
it's everywhere.
But they were the only show in town.
So if you,
if you are in a black space
and you are in an entertainment space,
it's like pre-podcast,
Angie Martinez was it.
If you got an Angie interview,
you would have arrived.
You get what I'm saying? If you got a Breakfast Club interview back in the day, you had arrived. Now you can go
sit down with Gillian Waller. I might not even like Charlamagne, so I don't want to go over
there. I could go sit with Gillian Waller and I could get exposed to millions of people. I might
not like Joe. I could go sit over here. You get what I saying back in the day the breakfast club was the only show in town so they got everybody also to add to that why i like it this way is
because none of that stuff matters and only in hip-hop do we get caught up with
i'm the biggest i'm the best thing moving you can can't fuck with me. That's a real hip hop.
You think so?
Yes.
You don't think Jay Leno was beefing or competing with,
they was going through that.
That's not true.
That's not true.
That's not a hip hop thing.
They was going through it, bro.
The late night talk show niggas was actually beefing
and taking shots at each other.
That's like Kanye, to me, what you're saying,
I'm not saying it's not true,
but it's like Kanye and 50
beefing head to head
who's going to sell the most records.
It's the same company.
That was insane.
In late night,
all of them, CBS and NBC,
they know who the host is
for the next 30 years
and the niggas we looking at
after that.
Anything that,
any beef they had going on,
that was network theatrics.
It couldn't be a real beef
because all of them,
to even be in the conversation,
made $40 million a show.
Yeah, but I still want the ratings.
Well, and that's where I'm saying
network beef comes into play.
But they friends.
Yeah, that's true.
You make $50,
I make $45.
But sometimes that shit is real.
I collect cards,
I drive over there at the end.
All of these niggas for our whole lives have been that.
And this listen back to my point. Right. And I used to get caught up in this.
We all get caught up in this. Like when when my show was the top, top number one thing moving.
That was like a badge of honor right until right you grow out of
it i think one time i'm you looking at other people and i won't name any names but i was
looking at somebody well established well tenured experienced successful and you know you getting
the feeling yourself were you like a nigga you're not impactful You ain't making no noise out here. You drop. I don't hear none of that.
The trick is they graduated from that.
Yeah.
I don't have to do that anymore.
Yeah, we the fool.
I don't have to be the hottest or the number one show or the most impactful.
I did that already.
I did that and got what I got from it.
See, I like the space like that.
Because if everybody continues to be that creative,
I'm going to keep looking at different ways to get
it done.
I think that's just a growing thing.
Go to the platform, you figure out how to
monetize from it. Everybody is showing
a different display of that, right?
It's no longer just
exclusive model
ads here. Everybody is.
I love that Adam is independent.
So whatever you say about him, he can go wild.
He can go on a BMX bike one day.
Fuck this girl the next day.
Gang bang.
Y'all fight.
There's no threat of cancellation because I built this.
I own this.
I love that I'm independent.
I love that when everybody posts up them little charts and shit right under this shit, it's a damn.
Well, here's the thing, though.
And that's what I'm trying to say
is like,
what happens-
I love that you started
taking payola from labels.
I can spot it.
Just a sky.
I can spot it.
No,
I can spot it.
I can spot it.
Hey,
you guys,
tell me what you think
of Lil' Cheek Cheek.
Lil' Cheek Cheek
just dropped his mask.
I'm like,
yo,
dog,
what are we doing here?
Yo,
in reality,
I guess what I was also
talking about is like,
you see how Rogan's podcast
grew to be that size,
right?
I feel like
hip hop platforms
right now,
we're all
like in our own way
kind of neck and neck.
You know what I mean?
And what I'm trying to say
is that I'm looking forward
to see if it's going to be
a new platform
or somebody else
or maybe one of the
current existing ones
that,
because there's always
going to be, this is like the hottest show in town it won't be the only show but it's the hottest
show in town right you know what i mean and i think everybody goes through their moments where
it's like okay this this podcast or this platform is having a run and then it will be oh this other
podcast but we don't definitely have something where it's just so huge that the rest of the field just looks almost like insignificant.
I like that.
I do.
That's super dope.
I think that's better for the field.
It should continue to be that way.
And cream rises.
See, I be thinking different.
Cream rises.
I got to crush all these niggas.
It's 100,000 niggas a day to drop a podcast.
Every day, 100,000 niggas. day that drop a podcast. Every day, 100,000 niggas.
Cream rise at the top no matter what.
I ain't got to crush you because if you really dope, which I believe you are,
you're going to rise.
Same with them niggas over there, him, him, Schultz.
Even the niggas I don't like.
You can still see the rise.
I watched an interesting conversation all day
of,
we'll talk about it later,
of Schultz and Charlamagne
arguing about
who's bigger,
Rogan or Charlamagne.
Rogan or Charlamagne?
That's what I watched.
Was that a real conversation?
A real one?
Nah, man.
That's the oldest
gadget I've seen.
Stop it.
Nah. What was the conversation about? I almost want to find it on YouTube that's how old age casualty is stop it nah
what was the
conversation about
I almost want to
find it on YouTube
so you can hear it
but that was the
exact conversation
Schultz was saying
Joe Rogan is the
biggest platform
moving
and then Charlamagne
said
oh I did see that
bigger than who
where you said
he was saying
the breakfast club
yeah
yeah no I disagree with that one I disagree too did see that. Bigger than who? Where you said, it was saying the Breakfast Club. Yeah.
Yeah, no,
I disagree with that one.
I disagree too.
You disagree with who's hot?
Joe Rogan is the
biggest thing in the world.
Clearly.
The end.
I don't care what
anybody's metrics say.
I think Joe Rogan
is basically
like a late night
TV show, man.
Yeah, it's just
different.
It's a different stratosphere.
I don't count him.
And it's like you counting Stern.
It's like, it's different.
But I mean, I'll tell you what I pulled from it later.
It's rather interesting.
And also, you got to realize, Schultz is in the podcast lane.
So like, you know, he's a podcast comedy, which by the way, I've seen it.
Don't cape for your man.
Don't cape for your man now.
Well, I've always said he's building in a lane to be, like, some of that hip-hoppy shit, you know, I think he was a little bit more catering to culture.
Man, he's UFC.
That's Rogan.
UFC, all these other things.
And I think he's smart.
I think it's a great way to get up.
It's super smart.
It's a great way to get audience.
It is super smart. Because here's the way to get audience. It is super smart.
Because here's the thing,
this is what all of us
hip hop platforms
suffer from.
Like there is a ceiling
on hip hop.
The amount of people
who want to consume
content related to music.
Some people,
everybody listens to music
but content related to music,
there's a ceiling on it,
right?
But it's,
yeah,
I'm rolling.
And when you inevitably or when you're a hip hop it, right? I'm saying not a lot, but it's, yeah. I'm rolling. And when you inevitably, or when you're a hip-hop platform,
you kind of, it's hard to break out of that
because people say, no, no, stay in lane.
You're the hip-hop guy.
When you kind of, I won't say least,
but like you kind of dibble and dabble into it,
but also you're into all these other subcultures,
that's how you become Rogan, right?
Where, hey, all you guys who are into fitness and MMA,
come over here.
Yeah, we got some sports.
Hey, y'all political niggas, come over here too, man.
We got you.
Oh, y'all want jokes?
We gonna definitely have everything full of jokes.
I look at that and I was like,
because if you look at how there was a time
where I thought that Brilliant Idiots
was a better performing podcast than Flagrant 2.
Maybe it was at one point. I 2. Maybe it was at one point.
I mean...
Maybe it was at one point.
Flagrant 2 outperforms pretty much all hip-hop.
Well, I only always look at Spotify charts,
so it outperforms all hip-hop podcasts.
Let me ask you a question.
What you said, I totally agree with, right?
Do you think color plays a part in that?
Absolutely.
Absolutely. So with that being said,
at one point, Joe and I had a conversation.
This was years ago. I wasn't even remotely
thinking about podcasting. And I told Joe,
yo, you could be the next Arsenio Hall.
Yeah. Right? Because you have
the ability to transcend
any
demo.
Like if he on his silly shit, he could be his silly have the ability to transcend any demo, right?
Like, if he on a silly shit, he could be a silly shit.
He could interview the white people.
He could interview the white pop artists.
He could do all of those things.
I think that in a white- See you, Steve Manjot, man.
Oh, thank you, man.
Come on, man.
I think in a white space, it's easier to grab Kelly Clarkson.
She's comfortable coming to sit with you.
You hear what I'm saying?
It ain't that many black Kelly Clarksons.
Kelly Clarkson also has a new
show. And then even
when the black artists get to a certain level
and this is what all the black podcasters are
talking about now. When you get to a certain level
they apprehensive to come sit on the couch.
When they rise they'll come sit on the
couch. Yeah that's true. But once you get to
a certain level they apprehensive.
Now they want to run and shoot.
They'll go fuck with Leno.
Fact.
Yeah.
I always said it's more valuable to me talking about him
than talking to you.
That's unfortunate.
I always say that in the opposite way.
I'm like, listen,
if I can talk to you, shit,
I could make more money
talking about you.
What I'm saying to you
is this about the Charlemagne argument.
Mm-hmm.
I do believe,
and then I'm moving
off of the I'm so anytime you come here I talk about a bunch of niggas I'll
never talk about this boss but if I pour 1,000 percent of me into you to build you
up and build you up and build you up because I have been the bigger person with the bigger light and platform to be able to do that.
And it then starts to work.
And then you move on to greener pastures.
Okay.
Don't come back to me nine years later and tell me about how your new best friend is so much bigger than me.
That's a good point.
Mm-hmm.
Explain that.
It could be true, though. It's still disrespectful. It's still-hmm they explain that it could be true though
it's still disrespectful so i'm not saying it's not true let me give an example i'm on the joe
button podcast oh okay i'm on the joe button i i i hear i hear the argument do you think that was
an undertone in the conversation i think i think there was a lot of edits in that it was a lot of
edits in that timely edits go back and watch it and pay attention
go i'll do this for a living no i did see this go watch no but where they were placed
where they were placed and what they came back in with spicy not do rogan is 100% bigger than
you and clip clip you come back in with y'all i'm maintaining y'all i'm competitive this does
bother me i'm super proud of you.
I helped you get where you're going.
I always saw this for your future,
but don't come back to me.
I'm competitive, nigga. Don't come tell me this nigga's better than me.
I felt him.
Even if...
Wait, did he say that?
In his own words.
Okay, okay.
In his own words.
Go watch it.
Okay, I'm gonna go.
I felt him.
Even if...
Even if it's true, nigga.
Even if he's right.
You don't get to come...
Don't do that.
I.E. Skip and Shannon.
Skip and Shannon.
He was like, nigga, you ain't Brady.
And he was like, so?
You ain't me.
That nigga said I wasn't a bum, nigga.
I wasn't a bum.
I got three Super Bowl rings.
I'm in the Hall of Fame.
Nigga, I'm one of them.
Don't tell me that this white boy is, though he's the GOAT he is the GOAT
but don't act like I'm some bum nigga
I ain't a plant B
that's the same thing Skip got into it with
Jalen Rose over when they got into it
I ain't never seen it
you never saw that?
I never saw it
that was a big one
Jalen Rose was defending
was saying
you can attack a player's game without attacking them personally.
That's true.
At the time, Skip was coming up with nicknames for players.
True.
I think Bosh was Bosh Spice.
Bosh Spice.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
So Jalen was saying, yo, there's a way for you To do that And not attack these people
Personally
Actually the same exact
Shannon Sharpshit
And Skip said
Well what type
He said
Well this point guard
Is like this
And Westbrook is not
Your conventional point guard
And Skip said
Well what type of point guard
Was you
On air
So now
It's a personal attack
Yeah that's an attack
And then Jalen
Just so happened to have Skip's high school stats in his pocket.
Oh, shit.
He the only one that knew Skip played high school ball for a team.
He said, wait a second, nigga.
Is this you?
And you averaged three point two points in three minutes or something.
Like shit like that.
But I think, but this is what I think.
I think that, and this is what I think. I think that,
and this is going to sound funny.
I think that when
white people are allowed,
and this is what I told Adam.
When the white people,
we allow the white people
into our culture,
into our lives,
they can conveniently disappear
when they feel like it.
And do.
So Adam can come on his platform.
He can make $100 million off of black trauma,
and when Adam turns 45, 50,
he can disappear into the fucking wind
and go do mad white shit.
We stuck here.
And that's what the argument I was making to him,
like, fam, you are taking these black boys,
and I've seen shit.
Niggas were sending me shit after
Where he was purposefully
Instigating beef
Well such and such said
That you said this
And they was like
Yo I don't know that person
He's like you don't know him
You just told me in my text message
That he a bitch ass
He's doing that on purpose
These black kids are out here dying
Getting shot
Getting all the shit
And when he turns 55
He can have
Adam Productions
and go disappear
and make fucking
Transformers 17.
Well, I'll say,
I don't think
you have a point there, right?
Because I do think that
his platform is just too big
and he's too successful
to still be, like,
there was a moment
where he kind of pivoted into,
it's like,
I have no idea who these things are.
Fam,
you know what I mean?
Like,
I won't sit with a nigga who I don't know.
You know what I mean?
Like,
you're like,
we have to level up.
You'll be like,
yo,
this,
this nigga from this gang,
don't like your gang.
You know,
he this y'all right?
Like I think,
but I think Adam's platform has kind of shifted.
Like,
I know we,
we consider him in the hip-hop platforms,
but if you watch his platform now,
they got pimps on it.
They're talking about,
yo, just give me the best story
of when you fucked 10 niggas.
Again, he's kind of moving out of the hip-hop thing.
But this is my thing.
The platform's moving out of it.
Cool, but when you're
A white artist
You can do that
You just said that
We are all having a hard time
Shifting into other shit
As black
Yeah
Media
Right
Because we kind of get
Pigeonholed
When we get boxed in
When you white
You can dip
I agree
You get what I'm saying
You can dip at your leisure
Once you get to a certain level
You can dip
So how do you
I spoke to three white people
In a row And they called me Cel can dip so how do you I spoke to three white people in a row
and they called me sellout
and about
and about
and about
I'm like
Schultz like
God diversify
I think you can
I think that we
Schultz and Neff
are going to split from Charmaine
we can have two conversations
I'm sorry
I said how do you
how do you
how do you get out of that
and I said yo you can
I think you just gotta be
open minded and diversify
and the last three interviews that you did
prove it.
Yeah, they calling me sellout every second they get.
Yo, you're fucking
humans. Why you don't interview no black people?
And I'm like, yo, fam.
You do have to kind of expand and like
that's a little bit of...
That's hate, by the way, too.
Some of your audience
won't also grow with you. I've definitely learned that, too. There's close to my heart. Some of your audience won't also grow with you.
I've definitely learned that, too.
Everybody not meant to.
There's a lot of people who'd be like, man, I miss that 2013 War and Chirac academics.
Well, that person ain't here no more.
You know what I mean?
And if I'm trying to still please you, I'm not continuing to grow.
So even these days, sometimes, shit.
They killed you this week.
People been killing me.
They say, yo, you've been posting certain stuff
that isn't hip hop
like could you
stop posting that
you get what I mean
and I'm like
yo listen
listen to that yo
get the fuck
out of my face
let's just look like
yo can you stop
doing
do what I want you to do
yeah keep doing
the same old thing
you've been doing
and I mean
that's always happened
but to the point
with Schultz
I think Schultz
was eventually
and inevitably
going to have to go his own route because he's in comedy.
He's a white dude in comedy that he's not like, he's not like, what's that dude's name?
Like Gary Owens.
That's his name?
Gary Owens.
He's a white dude in comedy.
Gary Owens.
Yeah, but I think his comedy is more immense.
Tell me the difference between Adam Schultz and Mike Rappaport.
The difference? I don't know. Mike Rappaport. The difference?
I don't know.
Both in comedy.
Okay.
Both in the podcast space.
I think Michael Rappaport claimed that him and Tupac was taking pictures.
I don't think.
I think.
I can believe that.
I think he has a picture.
Every time they call it racistist Like But What do you call it again Schultz
He takes the
He's the
White dude from the suburbs
Who has an interest in hip hop
Right
He doesn't want to be
Oh
I'm in this shit
And I know beats
And I know rhymes
And this Kendrick album
Was great
No no no
And by the way
It's usually more beneficial
If
Even if we want to
Like you know
Categorize it as
A voyeuristic
You know Journey through hip hop Where That's just how a lot of people are.
That's how big hip-hop is.
Most of the people who listen to hip-hop, that's kind of what they know.
Exactly.
He can be genuine in that.
Yeah, definitely.
I have plenty more to ask you about.
You my man, so I didn't laugh as hard as I wanted to laugh.
What?
Talk to me.
Come on, buddy. Nah, I laughed. Is this hard As I wanted to laugh What? Talk to me Come on buddy
Nah I laughed
Is this the thing
I'm thinking about?
Yeah
Is this the thing
I'm thinking about?
Yeah no it was funny
It's on the board
It should have been funnier
It should put something
On the board
Relating to it
What?
Which one?
Somebody say something
I can't read
Are men the prize?
Is that what you're talking about?
Right there
Are men the catch
You the catch dog?
Oh yeah Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Come on.
I laughed through it.
Hold on.
Round of applause, y'all.
He was the catch.
Round of applause.
Well, well.
You scream, I'm the prize.
Nigga, I am the prize.
What the fuck?
Talk your shit.
Hey, listen.
Talk your shit.
First of all, this is what I realize is a lot of low self-esteem niggas out here, or niggas
who think they're overachieving.
Get them, get them.
I guess in whatever relationship, if you don't think you got some shit going on or you're
the person that the other person you're with should be protecting that relationship because
you're someone that's special, that's on you.
But I'm...
What?
Yeah, I mean, yeah, nigga, I am the prize, like what the fuck? You don't think I am the prize Like what the fuck Talk your Like wait
You don't think you the prize brother
Motherfucking
You talking to the wrong
You motherfucking right
Yeah you damn right
I have a question
What
If you the prize
Why you gotta tell her
Well
Well now you're going back
To that situation
No no no
He was in the middle
Of a heated argument
Now hold on
I'll tell you why.
Because I have to.
Why she ain't just smell the aroma.
No, no, no.
Because it's not.
The prize aroma.
No, it's not.
It depends on.
I put it like this, for example, right?
He's breaking it down.
Give it to me.
No, it's not stuttering.
He going to people.
Come on, give it to me.
If you had a situation or opportunity or whatever in front of you,
you would act a little bit different
if you knew your actions
could jeopardize the situations.
Yo, y'all crazy.
Do you agree with me?
Like, for example,
if you,
you wouldn't start squaring up
with niggas at your job
if you knew you could possibly
could lose your job, right?
And I guess,
right? I hope guess, right?
I hope that's right.
Nah.
I wouldn't square up with a nigga
to hit my job.
Like, what he did?
Yeah, exactly.
How we get here, though.
Yeah, I'll find another job.
I'll go to a tip agency.
Yo, you work at a job
and see a customer disrespect,
but like, yo,
if y'all were in the streets,
you probably, you know what I mean,
punch them out,
but you're at your job now, bro. Like, you know, yo, if y'all were in the streets, you probably, and I mean, punch them out, but you're at your job now, bro.
Like, you know,
again,
to save your job,
like, damn,
y'all niggas making this hard.
We haven't said anything yet.
Because y'all are saying
that there's nothing
that's sacred enough to you
that you feel that
you would change
your actions in the moment
because it could jeopardize you.
I wish that.
I thought you were going to.
Okay, so.
Because it could still happen
at the job, though.
That's all.
It depends on what happens.
It depends on what happens.
You come in knocking a bunch of shit over,
we might have to have a talk real quick.
All right, but anyway.
I just knew they ended you when that clip dropped.
I ain't going to lie to you.
What?
I didn't think that was going to end.
I was just having a blast laughing at it.
Wait, wait.
You thought.
You were very impassioned.
Because when the clip first dropped, it dropped with...
It dropped in a way, right?
Yeah, it dropped away.
You know what's so crazy about that clip?
You know what's so crazy about the clip?
So really, one young lady in the video, like I was actually seeing, right?
The other one, I don't really know.
We came from some other place.
She's just following us, like in the entrees.
Come on, man.
Something like...
Right?
But here's the thing, though.
She's the one who put the video up.
I remember telling her like,
yo, listen,
don't put this up.
She's like, nah.
Ain't nobody going to see it.
Then she just started
lying to me for no reason.
Yo, Worldstar offered me
10 grand for this.
I'm like, come on, bro.
But it's clout.
I couldn't talk her out
of not putting it up.
Of course.
And then she puts up
the worst part where
I'm breaking up a fight.
So I'm raising my voice because you got two intoxicated women.
They're going at it.
You know what I mean?
And I'm trying to tell my chick, like, yo, man, forget about this bum ass bitch.
Like, you here with me?
Like, yo, you do know.
You see everybody who's backing up because the security of the place, they're all backing up.
They're grabbing their phones, too.
Like, oh, shit.
TMZ, here we fucking come.
I got more money than all them niggas.
I had to shit on them niggas.
You know what I mean?
Why you did that?
I had to shit on them niggas in the hallway
because all of them was just kind of like
thinking this is a spectacle,
like some caged animals, man.
And you know what I mean?
Like I got things I could lose
if the wrong type of allegation come out
and people start believing certain type of narrative.
So that's what I'm trying to tell her.
I'm like, yo, this wildebeest you about to get into a fight with,
that's what I'm trying to tell my girl,
but she's intoxicated. I'm like, the wildebeest you about to get into a fight with, she got three other hyenas with her over there. Wildebeest you about to get into a fight with that's what i'm trying to tell my girl but she's intoxicated i'm like the wildebeest you about to get in a fight with you got three other hyenas
with her over there okay hyenas the wildebeest are hyenas you can't call them in that academics
but anyway you were defending a woman yo you you know what's funny about you
off mic you were saying how the shade room commenters hate you yeah yeah do you know when
i'm home reading
and the story breaks on you i think the exact opposite and i start hating on you are you i
start hating on you what you have the grace of people that should not be giving you the grace
shave room post some shit and i don't fuck with them neither shave room post some shit about you
you get in there write a little paragraph at the top yo y'all this is what really happened Shave Room posts some shit, and I don't fuck with them neither. Shave Room posts some shit about you.
You get in there and write a little paragraph at the top.
Yo, y'all, this is what really happened.
And they be like, all right, now we get it.
It's smooth.
That is not how that goes for people.
I can't go in there and write nothing that makes.
Yo, listen, Shave Room commenters, this is what really went down.
Yeah, come on.
You got to be. And they be like, yo, suck my dick.
I mean, it depends on what it is. You know, sometimes you got to have a little confidence. You get grace. You get got a few. And they were like, yo, suck my dick. I mean, it depends
on what it is.
You know, sometimes
you got to have
a little context.
You get grace, yo.
Really?
You think so?
Yes.
I feel like I get killed
a few times.
You should have been
ended out here.
Really?
Yeah.
That clip was taken
out of context, man.
I was trying to stop
two queens from fighting, man.
Let me get the update
on all your beefs.
You and Freddie Gibbs.
Oh, yeah.
I guess we don't get along.
It's up, Fabber.
I didn't get it. That's my man. The album's real good. The album's real good. You and Freddie Gibbs. Oh, yeah. I guess we don't get along. It's up, Fabber. I didn't get it.
That's my man.
The album's real good.
The album's real good.
Yeah, it is.
The album's real good.
Yeah, I've got no problem with him.
I think he went too far
with certain shit,
and now, you know what I mean?
The thing is,
when the rabbit got the gun,
or, yeah,
when the rabbit got the gun
in the sense of, you know,
unfortunate things happen to you,
you got to imagine
after you've said that
you can't wait till the day
I die that you can spit on me
in the casket.
These are all things he said.
Yo, but these are all things.
Yo, stop, yo.
These are things
on the cross socials
for sensationalism.
Nobody really wants
nobody to die here.
Don't say that.
It's not.
Freddie Gibbs don't want
academics to die.
Don't say it then.
Yeah, don't say it.
Fuck you talking about.
Oh, well, yeah.
Because when I return,
when I return,
if you are going to say it
Don't be surprised
That if you pop up
Because some shit happened to you
I got something to say now
Yeah and
Play this
I want you to don't jump on time
Yo I agree with you
Look even if you say it though
You can't get mad at me now
After you said some
Reckless shit
When I start getting reckless
Freddie Gibbs your album is great
I don't want no smoke
Yo I go to don't jump
I go to an interview
He gonna tweet out
Man He's like I knew that Bitch ass nigga Academics was there man I was almost gonna have Alvin's great. I don't want no smoke. Yo, I go to no jump right for an interview. He going to tweet out, man.
He's like, I knew that bitch ass nigga Academics was there, man.
I was almost going to have a nigga go there and kill him.
I literally said that.
You know what I mean?
But if you know Gibbs, like, you know.
Don't be up here snitching that.
Yeah, don't do that.
Yeah, don't be up here snitching that.
That's what he said.
If he was going to kill you, then leave it at that.
Leave it quiet.
Nigga, that's what he said.
He tweeted that.
You don't got to tell that he said that.
You a snitch.
What's wrong with you?
You ain't got to tell he said that.
Snitch on somebody dead.
Nah, man.
Like T.I.
Nah, I ain't going to lie.
Listen, I had a good conversation with my man Clifford, man.
T.I. not no snitch, man.
They said you had a conversation with the Prince family when you was doing all that reporting.
Come on.
What happened?
Give us the scoop.
Nah, they did hit me.
They said, yo, listen.
They said, I don't know if your platform is open to this, but we might want to make a statement soon, and we're going to pass it along to you.
And I'm like, bring it on.
That's all I heard.
Okay.
That's it.
People think that, like, they scared me into, because I think the internet wants J. Prince Jr. to be the person that's accountable for the murder.
J Prince Jr. to be the person that's accountable for the murder.
Because they're really thinking that,
yo, these dudes
take off and Quavo were
in the care of the
Prince family and something happened
and they believe it was
somebody who's close to the
Prince family that did it.
They want him specifically
to be held accountable. With me,
I looked at a bunch of stuff and I'm like, he didn't do nothing.
What do you think about you and the rest of the internet pinning murders on the wrong people?
Nah, we ain't pinning on the wrong person at all.
Y'all ain't have the nigga that they arrested?
Yeah, I've been to this.
I watched all your-
I've been to this.
It was a third shooter.
Listen, man, I only got my eyes.
He's such a rat.
No, I did.
I said it was a third shooter. They take pride in the ratness. Nigga He's such a rat. No, I did. I said it was a third shooter.
You take pride in the ratness.
Nigga, I was counting the bullets.
Like, the cadence.
Like, it looked like.
You was counting the bullets.
Yeah.
Like, well, you listen to bullets getting fired if all of a sudden the shit don't look like
it's semi-automatic no more.
Listen, nigga had to switch it.
Yo.
Yeah.
In real life, that's why I love the internet era.
In real life, when them shots start going off, you can't really count them.
Yo.
They just, it's real shit. No, it's real. They're shooting. That shit is loud. Yo, nigga, by the way, you you can't really count them. It's real shit.
That shit is loud.
By the way, you know what's funny, too?
I love how hip-hop, you know,
I think if I did this for other situations,
I would be just heralded and tossed out of hip-hop.
These internet kids are counting shots.
Nigga, when you're in a real spot and the shots get off,
the last thing on your mind is, yo, was that four or five?
Well, really, you should get the fuck out of there.
Hey, I'm hopping all over. Rapid fire
at you now. Fucking, uh, what'd you think?
How you think Adam handled the fight?
Which fight? The... The fight.
What happened when he got out of there? Come on.
Come on, tell Drew. And what would you
do in that situation? I mean,
well, here's the thing, though. I would
even put that out. Like, hell though. I wouldn't put that out.
Hell no, I ain't putting that out.
You know what I mean?
But you invite people to your spot that could get it shaken.
But I'm in a different space where, listen, first of all, you're showing up to my spot.
They're going to kick you out of that little nice building.
It's not like you're showing up to Complex.
You know what I mean?
Like, Complex was just like, yo, let's just see what happens.
It's one of those things, right?
With me, if we're not on the same accord and you're coming up in my building, I don't know how in any other way you think this is about to go, but probably favorable for me.
So it would be probably in your best interest to not have that energy coming in.
All right, now-
So that has never happened.
Those type of interactions, like some of that weird shit where you have niggas like Vic
Mensa coming in, you wouldn't even come to my... That's why I'm so glad I'm in charge of my own platform now,
in the sense of I've gotten to the point
where everything is done on my watch.
I just saw you threaten some nigga named LaBarr.
I was just going to ask, what happened if Luka catch you?
What's his name, Luka LaBarr?
Oh, yeah, no, no, we could get a shake.
You told Luka LaBarr...
Who is that nigga?
I don't know.
Oh, I thought it was your mans.
No, I don't know who he is.
I have no idea who he is.
This is my introduction
Well I'm
Listen I'm only responding
The shade room commenters
Say he couldn't be a sweeter man
He couldn't be a sweeter person
I'm responding to people
And you told him
To come up there
And get it shaken
Yo I'm responding
You don't
You don't really get it
Get it there with the women
Cause they women
But if you a nigga
You can come to my spot
And me
Oh yeah
Why you
You are too rich for this bullshit
No because
You know what
You gotta make an example
out of one of them niggas, you know why?
Because they keep trying to drive a narrative out,
that only get tough with the women.
Act.
Act, yo.
So what happen if he face, what happen if, you know,
you come up on the other side of that.
Act, stop.
I mean, this is what it is.
So any man that asks you for the fade,
you gonna give it to him?
I mean, hold on, I'm not saying any nigga.
All right, so stop.
But, but him. Hold on, hold on. And I'm gonna give it to the Lord, the bow man, that nigga. But the nigga that's rah-rah, you to give it to him? I mean, hold on. I'm not saying anything. All right, so stop. But him.
Hold on, hold on.
And I'm going to give it to the Lord, the man, the nigga.
But the nigga that's Rai Rai, you going to be like, yo,
I'm calling the cops.
Now that you said that, I'm calling the cops on you,
nigga.
I'm on Axe side now.
Yeah, that's who you're supposed to give it to.
Choose your battles.
We're not talking.
Hold on, hold on.
Wait, wait, wait.
I never said I'm calling the cops
if I have a fight with somebody.
See, this is where you get my words twisted.
Even when me and Meek Mill was going at it, I said, yo, listen, we have whatever issues,
whatever reasons.
Oh, yeah, your list is long.
We could have boxed.
I've been said it.
I've said it a million times.
I did.
Me and Lil Baby don't get along right now.
And I said, if Lil Baby said, listen, man, I really don't like you, let's just go and
just kind of handle what we got to handle and we can walk away from it, I would do it too
with Lil Baby.
You name the niggas, they probably want to shoot you, though.
They don't want to square.
That's the problem. They don't want to square. That's the problem.
They don't want to square up with you.
And you are being the provoking force
in the Lil Baby beef.
That's cap.
I watch you every day, yo.
Stop it, yo.
It's you.
It's you.
Yo, he said academics,
niggas like that could get touched.
It's a threat.
Don't be Charleston White.
It's not no threat? Don't be Charleston White. It's not no threat.
Don't be Charleston White.
You know what's up.
Listen, nigga.
But y'all all from the same school.
I'm Charleston White and active.
Hold on, hold on.
Ice, you tell me.
Whatever, whatever.
Leave me alone, bro.
Why you saying my name?
Now you threatening me?
You never went to no precinct
instead of, shut up.
If a nigga drops a line
on his multi-platinum album,
yo, shut up.
I went to no precinct
saying shit.
Niggas like Ice could get smacked. Or soon to be multi-platinum album. No. Back then, I went to no precincts that day. Yo, so shut up.
Niggas like Ice could get smacked.
Come on now.
Oh, no, it's a little different, because I-
Wait, so that mean you're going to kill-
That's all he said.
Nah.
Well, he put you in two songs.
Yeah, he did.
Yeah, but the other part didn't make sense,
because who the fuck- I've never said that I had more money
than Lil Baby.
Like, I think he's off a perk.
You know what I mean?
It's the only reason why you say some shit like that.
You know what's funny about you? Who actually think?
You know what's funny?
Y'all niggas, it's six degrees.
How many degrees of separation?
Not even.
Right?
You cool with whoever you cool with, right?
You cool with Wack, who's cool with P.
Yeah.
Who signed Lil Baby.
Like, you would think at some point in the media journey, you would be like, all right,
that's my man's man, so I'm chilling.
You never choose that route because he makes money off of not chilling.
Wait, wait, no, no, no, no.
I would have chilled if he didn't diss me on his multi-platinum album.
Act makes money off of not chilling.
No, listen, but y'all are acting like I'm, I know you're saying I'm the provoker.
Y'all saying I'm the provoker.
Act make money in his sleep, though.
But he makes more when he got a beef.
So let me ask you a question.
Y'all saying I'm the provoker.
Then why the fuck y'all not beefing then? Who? Y'all two niggas. We going to make more money if he got a beef. So let me ask you a question. Y'all saying I'm the provoker. Then why the fuck y'all not beefing then?
Who?
Y'all two niggas.
We gonna make more money if y'all beef.
I'm outside.
Academic's not outside.
I ain't no academic's not outside.
Stop it.
Stop it.
That's another thing.
He was just in the mall with the girl.
Yo, yo, play this.
You're never outside until you get knocked out.
That's not true.
I'm in the spots every day that I could get knocked out by my motherfucking self.
Okay, what does outside mean?
So like-
I'm outside with no security.
Okay, okay. I'm outside with no security.
I'm outside doing whatever the fuck
I want to do.
Explain what outside means now.
Academics go to Starlet's
by himself.
Well, I've never been
to Starlet's.
I bet you fucking...
That might not be
a shit though.
I'm not...
Listen up.
He asked me a question.
Hey, don't do that.
He was in Squeeze.
I go to local strip clubs.
What's that mean?
He was in...
Wait, wait.
I ain't no drug lord. I go to local strip clubs. Hey, hold on. Time out. Hey yo, yo. He was in squeeze. Wait, wait. I go to local strip clubs.
I know Drug Lord.
I go to local strip clubs.
Hey, hold on.
Time out.
Hey, not too much on Joe.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Yo, fuck you, man.
Number one, when academics was in squeeze, I remember that night.
Joe called me and said, yo, come up here.
We got Act drunk as hell.
Yeah.
Hold on.
Hold on, hold on.
Let me answer you.
Let me answer you.
And when Act was in squeeze, he wasn't the Act that he is today.
No, he was big.
He wasn't the Act that he is today. He was still was big. He wasn't the act that he is today.
He was still big.
They was on his ass in there.
Now, hold up.
So when I say, yo, I'm outside, I mean like, yo, I could be in a spot that is a little.
Let me ask you a question, Ish.
Oh, brother.
I can ask a question?
Absolutely.
Here come the inside boys jumping, my man.
Never.
Ish, you got him?
This is North Boy.
This is North Boy shit.
I wouldn't jump my guy anywhere.
Get your shit off.
If you up a couple M's, you going to be in them spots where you need your head knocked off at?
Occasionally.
Here come larger.
I don't be in there that much no more now.
Yo.
What the fuck was that?
Wait, wait, wait.
You tell me about spots.
I asked you.
You shouldn't be going on me. You shouldn't be going on me. This is why I hate this conversation.
Can I answer you?
You tell me all the time.
Ice, you shouldn't be in them spots no more.
I'll tell you why I hate this conversation.
It's a constant moving of the goal posts, right?
Absolutely.
Because if I want to go to Starless, right,
I have a thing.
Any time I want to go around anybody in the industry
usually, I always have security.
Now, if I'm in Starless with security every night,
you're going to say,
man, this thing is still pussy.
Nope.
Yes, they are.
No, I'm not.
He ain't here with security.
No, he got 20 security.
Yes, they are.
Yes, they are.
Time out.
I can answer you.
Well, stop being pussy to me.
This is my thing.
No.
Basically, being outside
means I'm here
waving my hand,
going live.
Somebody do something.
And if I'm not accessible
to get here.
No, now you're moving to goalposts.
You are.
Now you're moving to goalposts.
Hold on.
Stop it.
Tell me what outside means.
I want to answer your question.
If he went outside with security,
he would still be talked about.
I want to answer your question.
Let's hear from Ish, then let's hear from Ice,
then let's hear from Ak.
Joe goes outside.
Joe talk hella shit and been talking hella shit for 10 years.
10?
A little bit longer.
More than that.
A little bit longer.
Dog, I've been in spots
where it's me and Joe
and it's 27 niggas outside
waiting for me and Joe
to come outside.
But what they saying is,
we stupid.
Yeah.
True.
I'm not disagreeing.
I'm saying once you do get
to a certain level of success,
you should do that.
But I'm also saying
when you get to a certain level
of success
and you know you're accessible,
shut your fucking mouth
if you don't want
what comes along with that.
Or prepare yourself
by having fucking security
in case shit goes left.
Cool.
So now, hold up.
But then you're not outside.
You're not outside.
Why are you not?
But then you're not outside.
That's moving the goal.
So what?
That's what y'all are proving.
His point.
Being outside means
I have to be vulnerable
to be attacked.
Yes.
That's what y'all mean.
That's what y'all take out.
If that's the case,
hold on, let me just say. If that's the case, ICE is never going outside. Christmas Eve. I don't want to be attacked. Yes. That's what y'all mean. That's what y'all take out. If that's the case, hold on, let me just say, if that's the case, ICE is never going outside.
Christmas Eve.
I don't want to be attacked.
Sorry.
Christmas Eve.
You on Garden State Plaza by yourself?
Christmas Eve?
Fuck no.
I ain't going to lie.
I was in Garden State Plaza.
I said Christmas Eve.
Christmas Eve.
F-U-C-K-E-R.
No, I'm probably going off the script.
There you go.
Something outside.
See?
Something inside there.
See?
Okay, you speaking Spanish.
You speaking Spanish.
And it's time for your call.
Hold on, hold on.
Wait, wait, wait.
It's time for your call.
No, no, yeah.
I'm about to get out of here.
So technically, none of these rappers are outside then.
Some of these niggas don't be having security.
And you know what?
You know what happened to those?
The majority of these niggas up got hella security.
Correct.
Hella security. Correct. You moving to go bigiggas up got hella security. Correct. Hella security.
Correct.
You moving to go with it.
Let me ask you a question.
Correct.
I remember, this is one of the reasons me and Meek had gotten into it.
He went back to his hood way back.
I think it was on probation.
Clip this.
And he was on, like, he had about six security dudes with him, off-duty cops.
Now, he went back to the hood.
He's really outside with the people from his hood.
Is he outside
Or not outside
Because security's there
So you're telling me
I want to let him answer
I want to hear that
Please answer
We not
We not
Answer again
Was he outside or not
No he's not outside
So he's not outside
No he's not outside
So
No no no
I can answer you
Because nigga
If that's the case
And you really wanted him
And you go back home
To your hood
You don't need No motherfucking security Because it's wanted him and you go back home to your hood you don't need
no motherfucking security
because it's your hood
and you stand cemented
in your hood
do you keep that same energy
with the rapid eyes
do you keep that same energy
with the rapid eyes
you out your mind
because everybody
will say oh you
with security pussy
when you die
where the security
the same people who say
or you get caught with a gun
why you got the gun
why you got the gun
security
you supposed to
pay somebody to do that now.
Y'all talking about something totally different.
If me right now had a couple M's,
me right now
had a couple M's, and it's
a nigga sitting right... Nigga, I was in
466 last week. If I was $20 million
up, I would have been in 466
last weekend and felt comfortable as a fucking
kitten in some snow.
What's that?
It's a club.
What the fuck you talking about?
It's a club around my hood.
It's in West Orange. Corey, I'm lying.
It's in West Orange.
I still don't do that.
We'll get on my car.
No, but all the Newark niggas gave it
and I was in there comfortable as shit.
What does that mean?
And if I was $20 million up,
I would have still went to the same exact function.
We're talking about being in the hood outside.
That's what we were just talking about.
We're not going to act like West
Orange. We're not doing that.
I'm telling you this. You're wrong.
I'm not. You are wrong. I'm not wrong.
It's not where the spot is.
It's the niggas that's in the spot. Correct.
It can happen anywhere. The niggas that was in the spot
is the niggas that gave the party.
The niggas that gave the party is all niggas that gave the party is all-
It's them niggas, I know.
It's all fucking-
We gotta say it.
Sad felons.
I'll respond to you and Axe Point, right?
Because I do understand the logic that y'all are saying.
But what people normally mean by outside is exposed.
Yes.
That's what he just said.
Wait, stop.
Stop, let me finish.
If I'm outside
with the Tekashi security rollout.
The Jay-Z and them
six, nine mountain niggas.
I'm not outside.
Nobody's ever going to say
that Tekashi's outside
because he is hiring
seven, eight people
to be with him outside.
That's true.
Which means
without those people,
he feels unsafe.
True. When I move around, which means without those people, he feels unsafe.
When I move around, maybe not the smartest move, but I go some places alone.
Correct.
Right?
But what that means is I am outside.
I am here.
If anybody looking for me, want to talk to me, want to see me about something, want to do something to me, I am here for you to do it.
I didn't cower.
I didn't hire the security.
I didn't stay home.
And I didn't avoid you.
That's a bad move on your part.
You are a business.
You just started off saying that.
But you started off saying that I might not move around the smartest.
We're talking about smarts when you start dealing with your brand.
That's not what we were talking about in this instance.
You are correct that it might be some dumb ass shit to be worth $100 million and you be in the middle of motherfucking Branch Book Skating Rink.
So to me, y'all are putting too much emphasis on being outside.
We're talking about a different topic.
I'm not saying that that's not true.
We're saying that academics is not outside
What was the difference between?
Let me and let me roll with you see I tag all my but let me roll with your theory on brands, right?
a large part of my brand me only speaking for me not act a large part of my brand is
Don't say nothing about nobody that's gonna lead to an uncomfortable conversation when you see them.
Unless you really have that conversation.
So when I'm out, it ain't that I'm out moving like I'm the toughest nigga in the world.
Correct.
I'm out moving like I have given everybody respect.
So I expect to get it when I'm out.
Now, if that don't happen, then we got to go a different route.
Correct.
And today, we're witnesses of this.
You could be given all the respect in the world.
Somebody can take something the wrong way.
We always say you can't dictate how somebody responds to what they perceive to be a disrespect.
So you could have been given all the respect in the world and somebody just want to see.
Niggas hate.
Let's be clear.
Niggas can see you and just, oh, that clear niggas can see you you're absolutely right but a large part of men being men is what do you do when tensions rise
what do you do when it comes to conflict resolution what do you do when there's a
disagreement when your man is like oh that's a large part of just being a man so i'm with you
100 there yeah so i i you
don't want to eliminate though well i don't want to eliminate those things right like for me when
i move around i move around in places that i'm familiar with and they're familiar with me correct
so when rowdy niggas come in and oh john c you by It's just dope Like, as dumb as you may say it is
There is a certain level of respect
That comes with you being able to move around
Freely in different places
Without feeling the need for protection
That's all
That's all
And I'm not saying
I'm not mad at
Get your protection
No, my thing is just
I wish more of you niggas get your protection
No, my thing is
I wouldn't be I agree, because if you're not you niggas get your protection because I'm tired of saying rest in peace, you niggas.
I agree because if you're
not like that,
then don't be like that.
I'm not even...
If you're not like that,
don't be like that.
That's true.
You don't have to
quote unquote be like that
for somebody to think
you're like that
or want to see you
because they just
don't like you, bro.
I'm telling you this.
That's true.
So you have to move smart
because, yo...
That's true, but the odds... Nigga, PNB was sitting at a fucking So you have to move smart because, yo. That's true, but the odds.
Nigga, PNB was sitting at a fucking restaurant with his girl.
Stop it, yo.
Stop.
That's not true.
He was sitting at a restaurant with a damn near million dollars in a jewelry.
I get that.
So don't say that.
Don't minimalize it and say he was sitting at a thing with his girl.
That nigga was sitting there with a million dollars worth of jewelry around the fucking
wolves.
You holding a steak like this.
Sitting where?
What's going to happen?
That's sitting there.
All right, you, bro.
He was sitting
in the broad ghetto
by his motherfucking self
with his girl.
Moving around freely.
Ice.
With a million dollars
worth of jewelry on.
I'm telling you,
I like the points you're trying to make,
but that PMP shit is a bad example.
It's a bad example.
It's a horrible example.
No problem.
There's a million of them.
I'm just saying that, yo,
when you achieve a certain amount of. I'm just saying that, yo,
when you achieve a certain amount of notoriety,
good or bad,
you need to move smart
and protect yourself.
I'm agreeing.
Bottom line.
I'm agreeing.
It could come to you
and you have no idea
it's coming to you.
That's true.
It could be a nigga
that didn't like you
from 15 years ago
for something you don't
even know happened,
but now you got some notoriety.
You was on a flyer.
Oh shit, he's going to be there.
Anything can happen.
So you need to think smart
That's not the conversation
We started off having
But back to y'all conversation
We started off talking about
No he's not outside
Act saying certain shit
About certain niggas
And then
You are not in a position
In which to handle that
That's where this started off at
And if you know
You not in a position
Don't say it
No I'm with you there
I told the story
On the pod before
I'm 100% with you there
I was trying to talk to
this girl. Me and the chick was talking.
And my man was like, yo,
her boyfriend be shooting.
And I was like, so?
He like, nigga, you can't
fuck with her. And I was like, nigga, you fuck everybody,
girl. And he said, yeah, but I'm going to shoot back.
I'm going to have to
shoot for you. So don't fuck with
her. And I said Good point
There you go
You got to play accordingly
My nigga
You can't just be out here
Doing wild shit
If you not a wild nigga
I agree with that
A hundred percent
That's all I'm saying to him
I'm with you a thousand percent
That's all I'm saying to him
Don't be out there
Inviting it
If you know that's not what you want
No y'all call it trolling
That is true
Nigga
Y'all do call it trolling Y'all that nigga what do y'all call it trolling
and what did y'all y'all made up a word for the first person that sat there and said hey that was
some dumb shit trolling that is i say that is we don't need to pass i say was because i don't do
that shit no more but i speak for me i'm talking about me so yes i say that was some dumb shit
niggas be on the internet talking about niggas mother talking about these kids talking you don't
realize like yo it's shit attached behind that.
You can't beat your way out of a fucking paper bag.
And that shit is popular now.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, that shit is the masses now.
I watched these niggas today troll shit.
They troll me.
I'm just looking like, bro, that's not the lane y'all want to go down.
I know you think it's funny, ha-ha, but trust me, it's...
Find a better way to get it.
I'll end you.
No, not me.
I know what I'm saying. You won't end him in trolling? No, I'm not end you No not me I know I'm saying
You won't end him in trolling
No I'm not ending nobody
In trolling
I'm not trolling back
Oh
I wrote the book on that
Y'all not gonna troll me
This podcast was all over the place
But I liked it
I like when they be
I like that when
This is totally out of format
Just
Yeah just let them
Get to the shit
Pardon me
Part of the show Got a few of them here Yeah, just let them get to the shit. Pardon me.
Part of the show.
Got a few of them here.
You ready?
Naka, N-A-K-A.
Naka says, what is the cheapest shit you ever did for your girl for her birthday?
My answer is the same as Isis.
All right, that's what I'm going to say.
Left her.
Yeah. Break. Left her. Yeah.
Break up with her.
And just for the record, that works on Valentine's Day, Christmas, birthday, anniversary.
That's like a get out of jail free card.
That's just going to always work.
Oh, shit, my cheat-a-versary coming up.
Ooh.
You doing anything for it?
I probably got to buy a gift.
What the fuck is a cheat-a-versary? You going to buy a gift What the fuck is a cheat anniversary?
You gonna buy a gift On the anniversary of you getting caught cheating?
Yeah
We made it
Look what we made it through baby
That's the gift
You the prize
That's the gift
That's true
I didn't look at it that way
Oh Naka with another one
What advice would you give
A 21 year old today Where would your fundamentals lie? Girl Oh, Naka with another one. What advice would you give a 21-year-old today?
Where would your fundamentals lie?
Girl, y'all can tab at it if you want.
I don't give a fuck about them 21-year-olds.
Yeah, I wouldn't know.
Except for my son.
Whose project is out?
Cop that.
Trey Button in your phone right now.
Get that shit off.
Zay says, when you live in a home with your partner and her family in parentheses it says daughter do you do you leave the home upon
breakup or do you have them leave preface I'm the homeowner Zay you leave yeah yeah he gotta leave
temporarily you leave go get yourself a hotel you gotta like move out or nothing Yeah He gotta leave temporarily You leave
Go get yourself a hotel
You gotta like move out or nothing
But you gotta leave though
You can go back
After things get settled
But you get the fuck out of here
God damn
Yeah at least for a little while
Yeah
I'm glad we were able to help there
The J.B.P.
The J.B.P.
I don't know how long that happens
Where would you be
Without the J.B.P.
What you mean
Like yo it might take Shorty
A couple months to get on her feet.
It might.
I don't know if I got that in me.
I swear.
Yeah, wait.
What'd you say that now?
I'm going to go this days in for three days.
Tell your daughter what happened and get the fuck out of there.
Hey, smooth it over with her because I really like her.
And you get the fuck out. You really don't get to three days because I like your daughter. Hey Smooth it over with her Cause I really like her And
Then you get the fuck out
You really don't get to
Three days
Cause I like your daughter
The JVP
The JVP
Where would they be
Without the JVP
Alright
What do I have
For you guys today That you guys are sleeping on out there
nobody knows destin conrad whole ep fire Bless me with the luck when you pass me Know the same look when we get nasty
Don't think you wanna put nothin' past me
Ain't seen you since you came over last week You fuckin' with my mental last week
You a matured, don't you ain't know that I was pullin' up
It's cause you get around them niggas and act like you're my way
I see you out my way Nobody knows what we do
I wear you out, da-da
I'll send you out my way
Nobody knows what we do
Nobody knows, nobody knows, nobody knows
Just me, just me, babe Just me, babe
Just me, babe
You want your vibe, I bet you really wanna leave
You got a boo, but that ain't really your steeze
When we alone, I'll bring you right to your knees Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, you, baby, I'm just saying If you wanna go there, we can go there, babe
Wanna know why we gotta move on the low
You so sneaky, but where you finna link me, babe?
I wear you out, da-da
I see you out my way
Nobody knows what we do
Nobody knows, nobody knows, nobody knows
I wear you out, da-da
I send you out my way Nobody knows what we do
Nobody knows, nobody knows, nobody knows Just me, just me, babe Just me, just me, babe
Brand new music from Destin Conrad Record is called Nobody Knows
Off his project satin in your phone right this second
Whole project is fire, man.
And it's December, so we're not too far off of coming in here with some lists.
I'm going to come in with the best R&B EPs and albums and just R&B projects of the year.
And I usually do my favorite albums.
22 is on there.
Destin Conrad is on there.
Amber Marks is on there.
I'll get to it.
I'll get to it.
But a lot of the names Are lesser known
Or unknown
Or newer acts
So I want to do it
I want to do it right
Like a sleeper list
Like an R&B sleeper list
Damn near
The lesser known people
Just been going crazy
That's what I'm
Hey that's where the fire at
It's the hunger
Yeah no it's true
It's the hunger
I'm playing new old music actually
West Philly Freck
Hey
Yeah that's my guy Okay Freck. I hope Freck is doing well
wherever he is, my man. Last I spoke to him, he was. Good. That's Bar For Bar, rapper out.
And shout out to Rand, just cause. This is Carbon Monoxide. West Side, nigga. The family.
Westside, nigga The family, CBL City of brotherly love Condos, boats, and labs
Cavalli, Bergdorf, Louis Check me out, right?
Look, look, tell them biting niggas I'ma need my style back Alright, give it to him, man. Here we go. Lines like a surgical scar Bunch of rappers pissed I'm back How y'all gon' be mad at me?
My bars wildfire like a California tragedy Shooter straight from Haiti, yes I'm paying
him monthly Found a bitch to marry him so he can stay in
the country, uh
Scuba diving in Belize, yeah the feeling scary I really saw marine life without the military
We really bout to action they just talk more Diamonds remarkable like a chalkboard VVS diamonds when I spend cash
Let me teach you bout these stones nigga this a gym class
Money on that Cartier I'm talking to Dub Face light up like these bitches when I walk
in the club See my nigga Evo with me keep that thing in
the tuck We spend money on the guns plenty bang for
my buck, woah Two days, three nights, hundred stack earner
Put the pistol to your spine, nigga, that's a back burner
We them West Philly CBL street niggas If you ain't drinkin' Louis 13th, it's cheap
liquor Bottles at a time, nigga, no spot limit me
I keep a couple bands up in close proximity Reminiscing bout these broads I remember a million
She kept my Gucci sweater just for memory billion Look, we don't do no cuffing we just nail
thoughts She visit me I let her in just like a mailbox
No matter how bad I still get em to slide They wanna rub elbows like when you get a
massage They give it up quick cause they know the man worthy
I have girlies on they back like a Rams jersey
She know I got the bucks piling
Her ass keep calling me like she butt-dolling
Up in fifth ave, I let her pick any three
As far as sacks, I blue notes like Kenny G
I don't play about the splurge, I'm in this shit for real Ripping up receipts, the only time I split
the bill Yeah, it's the nigga with the fly bars
Cop vehicles like the squad car dashboard Zebra wood, bunch of new features
Threw some paper at him like a substitute teacher
They can't see me on these lines, nigga, Mason Dixon
Like the movie Rocky, I'm just chasing chicken
Trapping loud packing till there's millions in the stash
Like carbon monoxide made a killing with the gas blast
Again that's new old music West Philly Frack
Shout out to Frack
Shout out to my guy Frack
That shit was dope
Rest in peace to metaphors
It's over y'all I'll never forgive Big Sean and Young Money for doing that to metaphors Shout out to Frack. Shout out to my guy, Frack. That shit was dope. Rest in peace to Metaphors.
It's over, y'all.
I'll never forgive Big Sean and Young Money for doing that to Metaphors.
They did that.
Rest in peace, y'all.
Felt good.
Yeah.
Big Sean, Young Money.
I put Luda on that list, too.
Luda didn't do it.
Metaphors was still thriving when Luda was out.
He had some of them that was, all right, bro.
That's where it started.
The frecks and the
niggas could still
get it off.
Once young money
and Big Sean came
and did that,
the niggas that did
that sounded funny.
Yeah,
that's true.
Facts.
Some bullshit.
Anyway.
I'm playing some
Stally.
What you got for us
today,
Park?
Stally dropped
the new tape.
I'm playing Red
Light.
Red Light. That's funny. That's not I'm playing red light Red light Red light
This is for my niggas on the come up
On the come up
Plotting always looking for some more
No we don't talk business on the phone
If you owe me, gotta pay me before you go
How many niggas can actually say they did what I did where I'm from?
I started this shit
BCG, that's my shit
They got memory loss, convenient amnesia I kept it all raw and stored it in the freezer
Was broke with no accounts, now it's ten visas Was stuck in my city, now it's green cards and visas
My passport's last stamp was a visa Then I skipped to Italy for a slice of pizza
To see Julius Caesar's original statue at the Roman Forum.
This is abnormal form.
No weapons or words formed ever staggered my moves.
I walk to my own bop, Mick Jagger my moves.
We ain't jacking you dudes.
That's a whole crowd of haters.
We just break them in twos.
That's how the numbers favor you lose.
When you go against the chosen, handle pressure like Kai,
shoot the midi like the Rosen. Stay conscious of the world, handle pressure like Kai, shoot the midi like the Rosen
Stay conscious of the world but still like my neck frozen
Park the Rolls Royce sideways, how about that bitch posing?
My mind's somewhere between Gilbert Arenas and Gil Scott, my shit blowing
The way I talk ballin' is poetry, y'all niggas know it
The stoic poet from the southeast side of the tracks
That'll hunt you down for his cheese
and exterminate you rats, I never ran in packs, so don't associate yourself with me, I'm soloing
that ride by the dark tents, MTV, this wavy talk on wave files and mp3, you want me to speak on
your shit, that'll cost you 50 cheese, at least, that's the minimum baby, any nigga go against me,
that's the end of him baby, all that frontin' niggas doin', that's the minimum baby Any nigga go against me that's the end of
em baby All that frontin niggas doin that's the internet
baby All this energy I'm givin ain't no shieldin
it baby This for my niggas on the come up
Dying always looking for some more No we don't talk business on the phone
If you owe me gotta pay me before you go
You gotta pay me
Red light, red light
Green
Red light, red light
Green
That is Stolly, Red Light.
New project out now, and it's a pretty dope project.
Check it out.
Hey, Ish, what song are you playing today?
Stupid, yo.
Hey, Lil Fizz, you lucky I ain't see this news sooner.
I started with this one, buddy.
But that's why I'm going to fight y'all.
Because y'all have eyes, and y'all know some of this is funny.
If this nigga got his ass tooted up in the air on OnlyFans,
somebody need to know about that.
How the fuck am I going to know that?
And then on the internet.
Oh, okay.
Because you be looking at niggas that toot their ass.
Like, nigga, what the fuck you mean?
You the OnlyFans king, nigga.
Look, look, look, look.
Now I'm getting disrespected.
I can't even make a joke.
You don't disrespect me.
You are the OnlyFans king.
I follow Lil Fizz.
You just ran over here showing act.
Look, I follow all these motherfuckers.
Do I like skinny people?
I don't know what you do in your phone, John
Lil Fizz too small for me, man
You know what?
I'll break that little boy
You know what?
Hey, Ish, what song are you playing today?
Hey, I have
I have brand.
Yo.
I have fizz coming out of fizz, man.
Get this nigga out of here.
Yo, what's wrong with you?
Get fizz out of.
Nah, not that way.
Nah, that's funny. You know what I mean?
I have fizz coming out of fizz.
Yo, young lady.
Dope young lady.
Out of Jersey.
Big Jersey. Big Jersey.
Whitney Houston.
My name is Honey.
This little young lady you might have heard of, might not have.
Lauren Hill.
Queen Latifah.
What you got?
What you got, Park?
I mean, Alex, I don't know who played this nigga shit.
It's the hate. You hear it? It's the look. Yo, her name is Honey, Ish, I mean, Alex. I don't know who played this nigga's shit.
It's the hate.
You hear it?
It's luck.
A little bit of hate.
Yo, her name is Honey Baby, straight out of Jersey.
The song is called Trouble.
Honey Baby is Trouble.
Let's see.
Let's see how much trouble Honey Baby is.
This nigga's stupid.
This nigga's a hater.
You're a hater, yo.
Y'all should start hating. I ain't even into this shit. Acting like the last one being real is your biggest struggle Love is a hustle for you, nigga, you trouble, yeah
No way
Bet you met your match, baby
Startin' fires that you can't put out
There's always a catch with it
Seem perfect till I seen how you act
Till I seen what you like, yeah Never do, I always gotta ask for it
Never give, I gotta break my back for it Not a good big spot, should've passed on ya
Should've passed on ya And I have way too many options
That I don't wanna pick from Cause your niggas make me feelin' different
Feelin' different And I don't wanna pick from Cause your niggas make me feel indifferent Too indifferent
And I don't have no time
I'd rather go ahead and be crazy
Than be tied down here to you, baby
To you, baby
Nigga, you should trouble
You should have a caution sign
The way you lie, I'm seeing in doubles
Acting like the last one being real is your biggest struggle
Love is good, hustle for you Nigga, you trouble
Oh, ayy
Since we being honest At first you just had me excited when I got with you
Till you got entitled You so damn self-righteous acting like what you do is cool, nigga, you know
I'm not the one that you wanna try to do this with
Try to do this with me, yeah
Knowing I ain't with you, yeah
I'ma show you how you're supposed to do it
And I'ma give a proper execution
Go and get a nigga who knew what to do with it
With no excuses, who ain't useless
The way you're moving really got me thinking
Why would I waste my love on you, baby?
Why would I waste my time on you, baby?
On you, baby, yeah
Nigga, you trouble
You should have a caution sign
The way you lie, I'm seeing it in double Acting like the lost one, being real
Is your biggest struggle Love is a suit for you
Nigga, you trouble
Nigga, you trouble You should have a caution sign The way you lie, I'm seeing it in double Trouble by Honey or Honey Baby,
depending on which DSP you're on.
It's Honey Baby.
Not on Apple.
That's cool.
Real enthusiastic outro you put on.
She was...
It's Honey Baby.
It's tough to feel good as an artist.
Yeah, that was Honey Baby.
All right, man.
Oh, shit.
I'm crying.
I got to pee.
You niggas are hilarious.
Why a little fist?
I remove your room, nigga.
Let the sun shine in.
Little fuzz with the sun shining.
All right, man.
I don't know what we did this far, guys. The sun shinin' 38 weeks Little present The sun shinin' Alright man 36 without the gun I'm bent
I don't know what
We did this far guys
I have no idea
Chaos
Yeah it was
It was all over the place
Shout out to Ag
Word
He brought a little chaos
He did
Ag is chaotic man
I'm glad that I've
Tamed my chaotic ways
And I can just invite
Somebody over here
To do it
I can look at it like Now I see what I am to y'all.
Huh?
What'd you mean?
Now I see what I am to y'all now.
Y'all just get to sit back, chill, and watch Nick.
Yeah, you go right ahead.
Thanks a lot.
No doubt.
Yo, keep us in your prayers or don't.
I don't care.
I keep the fit with me, nigga. Come and get me in your prayers or don't. I don't care. Like who?
I keep the fifth with me, nigga.
Come and get me.
Let me stop that.
And it goes.
Come and get me.
Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there until the next time.
I bid you a due farewell.
Peace out of y'all.
So long, goodbye. y'all hold it down
Remember life is a series of moments
And moments pass
So let's make this one last as if it's all we have
And do remember lastly
I see what you niggas
I see what you potters
Yo, the baddies are insecure
The stagnant women wanna travel
And the closed-minded women
Well
They want you to teach them things
It go
And they plottin'
Yo, we'll be back same time, same place this weekend
Let me tell y'all now
The end of the year End of the month, we'll be back same time, same place this weekend. Let me tell y'all now, the end of the year, end of the month, we going on vacation.
Oh, yeah.
Last Friday of the year and first Tuesday of the year, we won't be here.
Leave that to Alicia Cara, whatever her name was, director.
She hates me, too.
Yeah, I was on her ass. He dropped that fucking great,
amazing, introspective, here, introvert record and then put out a bunch of pop bullshit after
that. She hates me.
Bobby Rouchet. Now all I hear is whispers of what you gonna do to me. How y'all gonna
stick me up? Take my jewels away. Pull out your gat. Carjack me. Take my cruise away.
Well, I got news for you
fool that wait a minute i got shots to get come and get me nigga y'all want raw for kick
come and get me nigga i won't part with this come and get me nigga i work hard for this
come and get me nigga i got shots to get come and get me
Come and get me.
And then go.
Come and get me.
I made it so you could say Jersey and it was all good.
I ain't crossover.
No.
No.
I took the suburbs to the.
No.
I ain't crossover. I took these podcasts to the, huh? No. I ain't crossover.
I took these podcasts to the hood.
Made them relate to your struggle.
Told them about your hustle.
Sat on the white couch with Crocs on.
I made them love you.
No.
You did that.
Fuck you, nigga.
Like couch guts.
How about that?
Now I ain't playing y'all drop.
This is my drop.
No drop.
No drop.
No drop.
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