The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 636 | "The Funcast"
Episode Date: June 17, 2023The JBP kicks off this episode discussing new music that was released, including Gunna’s ‘a Gift & a Curse’ (26:27) and Killer Mike’s project ‘MICHAEL’ (37:00). YK Osiris is accused of sex...ual assault after a run-in with Sukihana as videos surfaced on social media (50:38), the gang reacts to Meek Mill’s tweets (1:01:18), and Ja Morant has officially received a 25-game suspension from the NBA (1:21:43). Also, the latest on the YNW Melly trial (1:38:07), Killer Mike joins the podcast (1:50:33) to discuss his new album (1:59:55), his upbringing in Atlanta (2:19:55), + MORE! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP.: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks: Joe | Maeta - “F**k Your Friend” Parks | femdot. | “2003” Ish | Kiana Ledé (feat. Bryson Tiller) - “Gone” Melyssa | Doja Cat | “Attention”
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For granted.
Nah, for real.
I woke up so thankful
that we was coming
into electricity today.
That sounds silly, right?
That was some bullshit.
I'm not going to lie.
That made that day
long as hell.
But now,
I was also glad
that that happened,
that very humbling moment
because I remembered I'm cutting the lights off,
and I didn't have the money.
Yeah, same.
Actually, I wasn't paying the bill because I didn't have the money,
and you're just hoping, hope they don't clip you, hope they don't clip you.
Then when they finally clip you and you got a call,
yeah, that'll be, one time that shit was like 10 grand.
Yep.
I've had that same shit happen.
And I had my man
they
they started getting so bad on
one of my houses. Dog them niggas
was climbing the pole cutting a wire.
Oh shit.
Cause I had the electrician just come cut the shit back off.
My man would climb up on the pole
reconnect that shit right back at the pole.
That'll be 250. Here you go.
No bullshit. Then they had some dudes
that would try to
lock up the meter
on the PSCNG people
oh yeah
but they got the
big Batman belt
when they come
they got the big Batman belt
they are prepared
for whatever problem
you got over there
no bullshit
them PSCNG
Poe got his tea you done making your tea you got over there. No bullshit. Them P-S-E-N-G.
Poe got his tea.
You done making your tea?
That nigga's boiling. That shit was loud as hell.
It worked.
And when you broke
the P-S-E-N-G people,
they gonna play you
when they come
to fix your shit,
when they come
to turn it back on.
It will be there
like 1230 midnight
somewhere around here.
Yo, just wait up.
Wait outside.
Yeah, wait up.
And you better be there. You better be awake. And they just wait up. Wait outside. Yeah, wait up. And you better be there.
You better be awake.
And they hit you
with the extra fees.
Yeah.
Like, yo,
you know I don't have money.
How are you putting
more late fees on this shit?
Niggas be rude.
Like, yeah, yeah,
somebody be out there
between 8 and 12.
Mm-hmm.
You sitting there at 12,
30, you call them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, my bad.
They be out there
between 12 and 4.
4, 45, you like,
yo, bruh,
I took off work today.
I mean, what you want me to do, nigga?
You ain't pay us in eight months,
and we ain't got no reason to be coming out there.
I thought we had them.
I was like, nah, they just cut it off today.
You got to be in the area.
Can you track them?
No, we can't.
Quick to them.
Just be there.
No.
Damn, Mel, you can't relate, huh?
No.
Damn.
I can't.
I've never had a delinquent bill.
I wouldn't either if I had a pussy.
If I had a pussy, I would never have a delinquent bill.
That's a good point.
What is she talking about?
That is amazing.
Women got time to do shit like be scared.
You agree or you disagree?
That's him doing it.
No, I'm just asking.
I think that the two things are mutually exclusive concepts.
No, you don't.
No, you don't.
No, you do not think that.
For real?
Or you just potting?
Just potting.
All right.
Thank you for your honesty, dog.
Girls got time to be scared of insects.
Right.
Like, y'all don't. y'all, the way y'all live life, like, oh my God, bye.
Men don't even have time to.
At all.
I wish I could be scared of insects.
Oh, mosquito.
Oh my God.
Broken arm.
They could get out and go to work.
When women have to get out of their own bubble and apply their brain to, like else's life like father's day is coming like right there's all i got what
do you get somebody that's everything like if you're not thought about me at all this whole
time have you only been walking around thinking about yourself you should know what i'm lacking
already you should know man what's what's low let me now with hate. I'm starting with love. We got a nice, smooth, easy,
fun, fun cast going
here. Huh? Huh? Huh?
It's just the funsters.
Funsters.
Ice is not here. Flip is
not here. It's just the funsters.
Look.
Think peace is coming. Oh, you better believe it.
We're unpacking something today,
buddy. We will get to the bottom of it.
All right, where's my little horse clip that I liked?
I'm sorry?
Pause.
That sounds wild.
That's a nice case.
Phone case.
Ooh, it's nice.
You got the solid gold.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm fancy.
You are fancy.
I'm fancy.
Saw something.
That little Instagram ad got me.
Shit cost a little bit. I wanted to see what it was that little Instagram ad got me. Shit cost a little bit.
I wanted to see what it was like.
You just bought it
because it cost a little bit.
Not true.
How much it cost?
I can't tell you.
Oh boy.
Shit was $4.99.
Our relationship,
let's make some things clear.
Oh, never mind, bro.
No, for real.
Never mind.
In our relationship,
it's over for that.
All right.
It's over for that.
You can't tell me how much
the case cost.
You weaponize things.
You weaponize things. You weaponize things.
And you paint me out to look away in front of my fan base and audience.
But that's the risk.
What?
That's the risk that you run when you invite your friends of 15 years to come and work with you.
You are Bob Ross with the paintbrush.
You kidding me, nigga?
I paint you out a certain way.
Fam, you got buckets of paint.
I think I put you in positions to win.
Okay.
That's what I think.
All right, Joker.
You got it.
You got it, yo.
You got it.
Bob Ross.
Fuck out of here.
Here we go.
Strongest horse on the planet.
No, get that back.
Strongest horse on the planet.
This nigga be all...
Average Belgian horse can pull anything between 12,000 and 14,000 pounds.
Now, did anybody major in math or accounting?
If the average Belgian horse can pull between 12,000 and 14,000 pounds,
how many pounds can two Belgian horses pull? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, pull incorrect your math was correct but you use logic and the reason you use logic is because you
weren't exposed to what belgian horses can actually do they should be able to pull two times their
weight but here's the beautiful thing about the strongest horses on the planet when you yoke two
strong horses together and they're both belgian both of them are willing to over exert themselves to tell the other one
I'm setting the pace that's how they get to 35,000 pounds Shout out to the horses out there Shout out to the ladies built like horses out there Shout out to Sun Dress Season
Shout out to the first and last time listeners
I need to get right before I do this here you And I'm feeling we should both be free
If we were through
Just imagine what life is like
Mommy, I put my best foot forward
Though it's kinda awkward
Cause I'm picture-turning
Oh, yeah, but you're too proud to be
So I'ma get some air
And be calling you, there was hand
You'll be again
When we met you on the 7th
Straight from the 10th And now you're all over the place Just remember life's getting longer Oh my God.
They still coming in.
It lies around the corner.
It lies around the corner.
One of these days, I'm starting to pod with Ja Rule.
Put it on me.
I only don't do it because that's my favorite song and I'll get too excited.
I'll start singing that whole shit.
I'll start being Vida.
Now you don't know about the rock set.
Oh, that's a good question.
What girl songs do y'all rap?
What girl part do y'all rap along with in the club?
When it comes to... All that shit from that era.
Because the girl verses used to be fire.
They did.
A mill. A mill, a mill, just imagine what life'd be like.
This the vibe I'm on for the spring, heading into the summer, shout out to y'all. And you say New York City Fab, what up, boy?
Shout out to wherever you might be listening from Sometimes I like Slim, sometimes I like Dick
Sometimes I combine and I like them slick
Them slick probably went over your head
Couldn't lay up, I just went over for head
Made a change of plans when she bent over the bed
And now she bent over the ledge Been a change of plans when she bent over the bed And now she don't
Bent over the ledge
Been a few days but I sent over some bread
It can get rough with tuition and rent over your head
Not to say it holds a rescue anybody
But a nigga know it's stress due to the body
Now to see you in the best shoes
Buzzin' out of these shit be looking like
Fresh shoes on Bugattis
When this come on
You're high heels
But I swear You gotta play this next time you roll over Rollin' around fresh shoes on Bugattis When this come on, I'm on high heels But I swear we gon'
You gotta play this next time you roll over
Rollin' around on top of your car
We gettin' right to you, Miss Earthy, Earthy Kid
Flip, you so small, curvy
T-4 pearly
Right after this hook, don't worry about it
I'm on your ass, don't think you safe
Cause flip now, yeah, I'm on your ass
Hey, pause
Hit the gym, keep it toned, yeah, I'm on your ass Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy The whole time Y'all don't cheat the system What?
The whole time they doing what?
The whole time they supposed to wear Post surgery
Six to eight months
And work out
And eat right
It ain't just surgery
Alright man
Yes Ish And Hey. Hold on. All right, man. Yes, Ish. And the first clip.
First clip, ladies.
The tightest clip.
Don't try to cheat the system.
Not the third one.
Not that little loosey goosey shit.
You know the one you're supposed to put it on.
Yo, you're such a bird, yo.
Truly.
Truly.
You are such a bird.
I'm sitting here wondering how he had such great knowledge.
How do you have such in-depth knowledge?
I'm just trying to get my mind off of you.
I'm just trying to get my mind off of you.
I'm just trying to get my mind off of you.
I'm just trying to get my mind off of you.
I'm just trying to get my mind off of you.
I'm just trying to get my mind off of you.
I'm just trying to get my mind off of you.
I'm just trying to get my mind off of you. I'm just trying to get my mind off of you. I'm just trying to get my mind off of you. I'm just trying to get my mind off of you. I'm you're such a bird, yo. Truly. You are such a bird.
I'm sitting here wondering how he has such a good mouth.
How do you have such in-depth knowledge of the process?
He sounds like he could run a recovery home.
No bullshit.
Miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss.
Gotta get you one of them mansions.
That could be your side gig.
You could be a nurse.
Woo!
Get one of them mansions in Columbia.
I think that if you are a man who are,
if you're a man in New York,
you had no choice but to kind of learn
a little something about it.
I was late to the game.
I was late learning about it.
You had to kind of figure out
what the hell was going on
out here.
Bitch, why your lips
look like that?
Why the fuck,
why the fuck you got
the duck lips?
No, why one side
taller than the other?
They only gave you 12 CCc's on the other side
you better learn what they're doing out here uh what episode is this 636 welcome to the fun cat
welcome to a big mail welcome to episode 636 of the joe budden podcast i'm your humble gracious
grateful and highly favored or lowly favored
host Joe Budden here
with a few of my nearest
and dearest.
The beautiful,
the amazing
Melissa Ford is here.
Number one.
Thank you.
Actually,
hold up for a minute.
Let's see.
Issue's here.
Let's see.
Beep, beep.
Who got the keys in the jeep room
right for my girl let me get it right for my girl Melissa I love that song. What?
I think I was playing it like two days ago.
In the Jeep.
Is that what inspired you?
Well, we're talking about audience out there.
Melissa Ford.
At Melissa Ford.
At Melissa Ford.
With a Y.
Climbed on top of her car at the beach.
Where'd you at?
It was at the beach.
At the beach.
She parked on the beach.
Climbed on top of her car and a bikini and started rolling around that was new uh not the newish is repurposed
content but for a purpose yeah what was the purpose? I'm glad you said it.
Okay, so Jeeps are like a huge community,
and there's this thing called Jeep Wave.
So everybody that has like a Wrangler,
when you pass each other by in traffic,
throw up the deuces, wave.
Oh, there's not a specific wave?
It's not like a gang sign?
It's an acknowledgment.
It's basically an acknowledgment. And so there's some people who wave? It's not like a gang sign? It's an acknowledgement. It's basically an acknowledgement.
And so there's some people who, a lot
of people who drive Jeeps, they know this.
And some people didn't know it. So I had
friends who have Jeeps, and I'm just like, do you Jeep wave?
And they were like, what the fuck are you talking about?
And I'm like, they're like, I was wondering why people were
waving at me. And I'm like, it's an actual
thing. So Wrangler drivers,
they Jeep wave. So I was just kind of like, you know,
just kind of connecting to my community
not the Cherokees though no no no no
it's just Wranglers
nope nope nope just Wranglers
so you sat on the jeep
and waved your body well no
I mean she rolled over on the top of the jeep
she did some things with her hair like this
she did a snake on her hook
her tongue was out
I waved at the end
I double waved at the end. Oh, got you. I did.
I double waved at the end.
Okay.
Yeah, no, she really went crazy.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Extra small pain.
Yeah.
It's fine.
But listen, that's not the point.
I watched it and said, guess what I said?
So earthy.
So earthy.
This don't seem, and I could be wrong, but this don't seem so earthy.
Which part? Can you speak so earthy. Which part?
Can you speak to that portion?
I got the Jeep wave part, but...
Just the fact that I own a Jeep?
Do you think that behavior is earthy?
Don't try to word me out of my point.
You know, honestly, I've seen some
Some earthy girls
Maybe not on a jeep
But they're like
You know
Dressed in
Swimwear
And they're by water
You know
I just happened to be
In the parking lot
The water was over there
Yeah
Did you think it was earthy?
No
If you would've had
Some mountains
Or some
Some elm trees Or something behind you, you might have got it off.
You sitting in the middle of the wah-wah.
No earth anywhere.
Anywhere at all.
Yo, you sitting in the middle of the Walmart parking lot.
That ain't earthy, y'all.
That's all good.
It's fine.
We love you.
I'm with you, though.
We love you.
It's good content.
Thank you.
Exactly.
Okay, so I have to be honest.
It was shot while I still lived in L.A.
No.
No, for real?
So the palm trees are in the background.
They're not, though.
They are.
No one noticed.
No one noticed.
See?
No one noticed.
See?
Hold on yourself.
Anyways.
Too much earthiness.
Too much earthiness going on in the vid.
Ish is here.
Parks is here.
Poe is here. Corey is here. Poe is here.
Corey is here.
Erickson is here.
And, and,
Savon stopped by to say hi, man.
The dawn is building.
The fucking dawn.
Savon the dawn stopped by to say hello to us.
He looks great.
He lost some weight.
He getting a lot of money. Smiles.
Came in, look happy to not be
here no more with us.
I'm talking shit, man.
Glad Savon is here with us.
Savon works with us,
just on group chat.
We haven't seen him.
We put the pressure on him in the group chat.
I didn't think it would work. I didn't Yeah we had to I didn't think it would work
I didn't think so either
I didn't think so either
I thought he outgrew us
Yeah I thought he was off it
Like ah y'all crazy
In the chat
But good to see
Good to see Savon
And have him here
How's everybody doing?
How y'all feeling?
Feeling great
It's the weekend
Amazing
Great
How was your week?
Weather's breaking.
Ooh.
I slept.
Yeah.
It was a long Tuesday.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We were here late.
Very much so.
Yeah, we were.
Yeah.
That shit takes it out of you.
Pause.
Pause.
Yeah, okay, pause, yeah.
So that was it.
All right, you guys, week was so a bit of fun,
Ken!
Energy up in here.
I ended up going to Brooklyn Chop House for kind of like the first time to eat.
Which one?
The one in the city.
Times Square?
Yeah, Times Square.
All right.
Yeah.
I went to dinner with MC Light and a couple of her friends.
Mm.
Yeah.
Shout out to Light.
I mean, she's just, I just love her.
Mm-hmm.
So that was my excitement.
And then just ran errands and rested because Tuesday was a monster.
It was a lot.
Yeah.
Is there anything that you can tell us that MC Lyte said that you shouldn't say on air?
No.
All right.
No.
What did you guys talk about?
We talked about a bunch of things, but the Sukiana situation came up in conversation,
which I feel like we'll talk about later on in the show because everybody's kind of opining about a bunch of things, but the Sukiana situation came up in conversation, which, you know,
I feel like we'll talk about
later on in the show
because, you know,
everybody's kind of opining
and pontificating about it, so.
Oh, I can't wait
to toss that ball
right to you and Ish.
Yeah.
I can't wait
to toss that one to y'all.
Me and Parks
will cover the music today.
And on all of the other shit.
It is an extremely
important conversation for all of the other shit. It is an extremely important conversation
for all of us to participate in.
I'm ready to support you.
Okay.
I'm totally ready to support you.
Let's do it.
That's what I'm here to do.
That is a fool.
I was at Tatiana all week.
Were you?
All week long.
Yeah, I can't rely on your connects, girl.
Well, I mean, you were supposed to have established me.
Did she think?
What did she think?
I was who I was before you got here.
I mean, I know.
I know.
I'm a little jelly.
Oh, my.
As you should be.
Yeah.
As you should be.
From when we went to now.
Oh, the outdoor patio.
Girl.
The outdoor patio.
But not just that, the New York Times rating.
Got them lit.
You can feel, they was well on their way to being lit, but they there now.
Yeah.
It's that. I think my first night, I bumped into A$AP Ferg on his way out.
It's always fun when you see a rapper on the low in a cut somewhere where you're not supposed to.
Ah, yeah, nigga, what's up?
I see you.
I see you now.
It may just be Ferg now.
I saw him on the-
Yeah, you're right about that.
I think it's just Ferg now.
You're right about that.
And I never call him A$AP Ferg when I see him.
I call him Ferg.
I saw him, went up in there.
They changed a few things on the menu.
Yes, they did.
Yes, they did.
They got a little Hot Pocket on that menu, boy.
Oh, my Lord.
I tried to order one to go.
It was like, nah.
I don't think they call it that on the menu, do they?
Yes.
Is it called the Hot Pocket?
It's a fancier name, but it ends in Hot Pocket.
I feel like it's like a curried goat empanada.
Okay, you clearly haven't been there in quite some time.
I was there like three weeks ago.
That maybe wasn't on the menu three weeks ago.
The day they opened the menu.
They have a curried goat empanada,
and they also now have a brand new item that you've never had,
which is a Hot Pocket inspired by the chef
and things he liked in his
childhood. Got it.
It's like a
pepperoni,
but it's like squash, just like
all together with some other spices.
They bring this white, spicy cream.
You have to try it instead
of stepping on my story.
Funcast!
Get your VIP up.
Yeah, no, that Hot Pocket was great.
I couldn't take one home, so we went right back the next day.
Chef Ramsay was in the kitchen Thursday.
The Clintons had just left.
So Thursday, I went there a little late that day.
I went earlier the next night.
Outdoor patio time.
Beautiful in the city.
Lincoln Center vibe.
They playing, what's that game I like?
When you throw the beanbag in the hole.
Yeah, the beanbag game.
That's over there.
Michael Ealy in there.
Shout out to Michael Ealy.
Saluted him on some light-skinned love.
You know what I mean?
Jeffrey. Jeffrey from... Bel Air. You know what I mean? Jeffrey.
Jeffrey from...
Bel Air.
Bel Air.
Oh, my God.
The new one?
Spoke to him.
He said, you look familiar.
I didn't even bother.
It's okay.
I feel like a senior.
Don't worry about it, man.
I like your show, buddy.
These new niggas.
Niggas got famous a few years ago.
They'll play you.
Like, who are you again?
Hey, I'm a fan you again hey i'm a fan
jeffrey i'm a fan jeffrey and the funniest
ryan coogler
saw ryan coogler wow keep going but he came up to my table
heard what you said he came up to my table And he was smiling
He said yo
I had to come
Say what up to you my brother
Heard what you said
Oh shit
I'm about to get beat up
I'm about to get beat up
In Tatiana by Ryan Coogler
I love my life yo
I love my life Nah but. I love my life.
No, but he said he loved it.
He said he loved the commentary.
He heard every word.
He said his people hit him.
They was laughing.
He just said congrats on everything.
And I was like, whew.
It's a little tough out here when you review people's shit.
I mean, but how tough can it be
when you make a couple billion
your opening week?
Facts.
You don't really care
what nobody had to say.
Hey,
Mexican Panther,
ha ha ha.
Ha ha.
It worked.
Four threes on the way.
Yeah.
Just made them go
to the movie theater more.
Yeah,
but they got a ribeye
on the menu now.
Let me get off of this,
but it was, yeah. Listen, it's menu now Let me get off Get off of this But it was Yeah
Listen
It's different now
Fuck what Mel was talking about
It's different now
I'm thinking about
Throwing my birthday party
I mean that party
Dinner
I'm in there
I'm thinking about
Doing a birthday dinner there
I got a reservation
For next week
They open up
The reservations
Every day
It's booked
Every day
That shit like
You gotta know somebody
To sit down in there
That shit like they got the bots
buying the Nikes
and the fucking Yeezys
to get a fucking dinner.
I posted a little picture.
People started hitting me
talking about,
how you there?
They told me to wait weeks.
Nigga, I ain't you.
That's how.
The fuck is you talking about?
Get off my phone.
But yeah,
shout out to Kwame.
Shout out to everybody
up there at Tatiana.
What a vibe.
What a vibe. What Father vibe What a vibe Father's Day
Father's Day Sunday
Huh
I should call my son
And see what my plans are
He ain't say nothing to me
So you ain't got no plan
Maybe it's a surprise
That ain't true
My son don't play by me
It's gonna be something
It may not be Sunday
Might call on Tuesday
I got paid on Sunday
I had to wait for the check to clear.
Single hit me.
Hey, if you ain't got no plans, you can bring Lex a little earlier.
Huh?
It's my father's day.
God damn, y'all don't play.
It's Sunday, nigga.
Oh, yeah.
I want to take him to El Salvador to see my family.
Oh, no. Ain't nothing on my ass. El Salvador to see my family. Mm. Oh, no.
I ain't going to know my ass.
I ain't want to see.
El Salvador.
Come on.
Look at guys.
Look at that.
Look at guys.
Look at guy dads.
You already know what I said because I'm a real nigga.
Hey, I got to sign off on that one, buddy.
Hey.
You need my signature for that.
You got a passport already?
I think I signed off on that one.
She got it. She got me. Definitely got signed off. She got me. You got a passport already? I think I signed off on that one. She got me.
She got me.
You got to.
Now you got to go there.
It ain't even no signature more. You got to go.
Oh, for real? You got to physically
go. I did. I had to physically
go there. They wanted to see you.
They wanted to see your face.
Yeah.
Your situation.
For real, period. You want to see your face. Yeah. Yeah, your situation probably. For real, period.
Mm-hmm.
You want to get out of here?
Yeah, you got to go.
Yeah.
They got to make sure that it's not a little parental kidnapping situation.
Got it, got it, got it.
Well, Father's Day is here.
Shout out to all the fathers out there.
Indeed.
Shout out to all the dads.
Shout out to the moms too, but it's not about y'all right now.
Shout out to the dads.
Get that nigga something more than a tie and some socks too, yo.
Yeah, the tank tops, the cologne.
Oh my God, what do you get someone who has everything?
Use some thought for a change.
Buy him a jet, nigga.
You don't got that?
A jet?
Yeah.
Buy a nigga the private jet.
My girl got me like a spa day.
That's nice
Can't go wrong with that
What?
I didn't say a word
What you looking at me on?
I'm looking at you
Cause we podcasters
You be stealing my lines
You be stealing my lines
That's all I'm looking at
Yeah she got me a little spa day
I need a
Facial pause
Like a good one
Where they do the steam
Massage
Pull all these toxins
And shit out of you
Are you doing anything For your father For Father's Day? Probably Facial pause, like a good one, where they do the steam, massage, pull all these toxins and shit out of you.
Are you doing anything for your father for Father's Day?
Probably.
Yeah?
But I can't know until I see what my kid is doing for me and what time.
I want us all to just go to dinner or brunch or lunch or something like that.
Cookout, something.
Yeah.
Last year, we all went to brunch in Harlem.
So that's our thing. That sounds nice. Yeah. Last year, we all went to brunch in Harlem. So that's our thing.
That sounds nice.
Yeah.
That's really nice.
Shout out to Dad.
Love you, man.
All right.
Where do you want to begin?
Music?
Let's do it.
That would be you. We had a pretty good week this week.
Tell us about it.
It's been a quiet year of releases.
We got Gunna.
You want to start with Gunna?
We can start with Gunna.
Let's start with Gunna.
Listen, man.
Did you hear it?
I heard it.
One to ten?
I don't know if I'm ready to give it a review, but it's very good, yo.
It's very good.
I'm shocked.
Well, I'm not shocked.
He's talented.
That guy sound like he rapping and flowing like his life
depend on it
I ain't gonna hold you
it might a little bit
I would agree
he rapped like
I heard all y'all talking
and you're not better than me
so I'm gonna show you
like all the people that had
something to say about his situation
it sounded like he wanted to be like
yeah but you're not me though
that's what that is what it sounds like that's what it sounded like to
me and he said a lot of that also lyrically yeah he was talking a lot of shit yo production was
crazy crazy listen i was playing this shit in the shower, I almost fell when this song came on
Cause this remind me of Fuck With Me, You Know, I Got, which I love, I love that beat
So I was like, what's he gonna do on this? And sure enough
Came on the bottom, now the fans will spot him
Talk of the type, can't even stop it
Lotta you cop it, here for the practice
Find you a hobby
Cause spreadin' your night
Un-lettin' the energy build up
Let's show little niggas you break tough
Put the audience niggas we k'd up
It's a whole different way you were raised up
They had shit we would eat all the bread crust
I had this fuckin' angel dust
I could have them
Niggas who would be sweet
Girl with the beanie Not the to test the speakers out with. This one? Yeah. Yeah.
Roll that thing up a little bit.
He sounds good, yo.
I can see this ringing off.
Dog, I could pick any one of these songs.
Oh, from 8 to 9 It was a nut
That was nuts
I gotta play that
From bottom
The P Angels
Yeah P Angels came on too
Oh my god
This is a full length album
Or an EP
It's a full length album
I don't know if he's calling it
An album or a mixtape
But it's
20
Well not 20 songs
17, 16 songs
Something like that
It's full length
This is 15 songs, 45 minutes of music.
Bottom goes right into P. Angels track 8 to 9.
I love that.
Dog.
Homie, sky, yeah, me, I'm back out of chain.
Took a few laughs, this part of the game.
Want a bidget to my talent, this bang.
I swear they was all in my name.
On a tsunami, I light weight. I bought a lamp of the game Born a big jet to my talent, the Spain I had to squirt it was all in my name On a tsunami, I lightweight
I bought the lamp, Bruce Wayne
Sleep on the yacht for like 20 some days
On the G.C. tryna smoke all that haze
I got P. Angels, they pourin' up, whisperin'
Breakin' out sisters and geekin' and trippin'
I'm with the bad ones, the one they be trippin'
Y'all niggas laughin', we laughin' right with you
All the thinkin' about it is bigger picture
Once you get mad, try see where you're headed?
I know he mad he found out that I hit him.
Couple more baddies, that's all the more liquor.
Fire.
Yo.
Fire.
The whole shit is fire, yo.
It really is. It is.
And I'm not the biggest guy.
Me neither.
I'm not the demo.
I'm not the demo.
Me either.
And I don't know if it's just because we've been talking about him so much and paying
so much attention to his story to hear him describe his story in the music.
Hit different.
I don't think that's what it is for me.
Because contrary to that, I haven't heard him talk so much.
No, I'm saying the whole world has been discussing his situation for however long now.
For me, that's very separate than what you're able to produce musically.
Yeah, no doubt.
No doubt.
This was make or break for him. very separate than what you're able to produce musically. Yeah, no doubt. No doubt. But I think... Like, that was a make...
This was make or break for him.
I'm just saying that because of the story,
like, you pay more attention to what he's talking about.
Yeah, that's true.
Because like Park said, he's not his typical demo,
but based on what he's been going through...
I want to hear what you got to say.
I want to hear what you got to say.
I paid a little more attention to it.
And I want to see if your production and all that shit
is going to sound good,
because y'all were saying, y'all, it was kind of 50-50 if he was going to be able to pull the same producers and get the same quality sounds that he been had.
What he proved is he didn't need them.
Or he may have got them.
Or he might have got them from different motherfuckers.
No, I'm talking about the features.
Oh, yeah.
I'm talking about the production.
There's not a soul listed here.
No, no.
And I didn't hear not a one. I didn't hear no. And I didn't hear not a one.
I didn't hear him.
And I don't see him listed.
That's what I meant.
Like, no, I was saying he's a singles artist.
There's a lot of support.
How do you show up for yourself without the Futures and the Drakes and the Thuggas?
And what he proved is, no, it was me.
It was me the whole time.
That's really difficult to do, to show up this way and sound this good all by yourself with little to no support from your label.
That was a big thing in what I was saying before, too.
Like, let's see when the label decides to show up.
They didn't show up at all.
He dropped bread and butter and had an album ready
with whoever helped do it.
I didn't see the credits.
Yeah, it's still not on title for whatever reason.
Maybe because it was a little bit of a surprise drop.
Sometimes titles are a little bit slower to upload shit.
Well, good point that you mentioned.
It was shadowbanned for me too.
Yeah, I couldn't find it at first.
I could not find the album.
I had to go find the name of the album and type that whole thing in for it to pop out.
That says something.
Yeah.
I didn't know that you could shadow ban an album.
Oh, yeah, it happens.
Anything on the internet can be shadow banned.
Yeah, it happens frequently with artists that are questionable for whatever reason.
Tory shit.
Chris Brown says shit.
Chris Brown shit.
Chris Brown album came out. Niggas couldn't find it. Yeah, said shit. Chris Brown shit. Chris Brown album came out,
niggas couldn't find it.
Yeah, it happens.
The last album.
It happens.
And it's Chris Brown.
Right.
So what I'm saying is,
I don't know what was spent
on this project.
It don't sound like the,
it don't have that label sound
that should be at that label
mixing and mastering sound
where everything just sound
the crispiest.
It sound like he did this, dropped his record, dropped his album two weeks later, and he's going to see returns.
Yeah.
He's going to see returns.
Especially if they have no big budget.
This is really good music.
It is.
I'm impressed, man.
I really am.
I'm very impressed.
Gotcha.
And I think that's what he needed to do.
All the shit that's been around him,
all the shit he's been accused of and people saying this and that,
you had to come out and deliver something that told your story and was fire.
Yeah.
I said he had to do something to make the label even,
even trust to continue to trust and,
and the fans.
So now.
Fans are fickle.
You can always get them.
A song will get them.
But you still got to deliver a product to the fans
based off of what he's accused of
to make them forget.
Atlanta, I'm sorry, yo.
I know some of y'all,
y'all don't fuck with this nigga.
I don't know.
I don't know what's going on out there
because it's not my business.
I don't live there.
I don't have property there.
I don't know if y'all...
I don't know, but listen, man.
This shit fire. Hey, to the thugs'all, I don't know, but listen, man. This shit fire.
Hey, to the thugs
and criminals,
I'm sorry, yo.
I'm going to play this.
I'm going to play this thing.
Same.
I'm going to play it.
I'm going to play this thing.
And, and,
because I was in the shower
listening to this shit
and then I got out the shower,
I got in the car
and then bread and butter
came on
and the flow of the album,
oh, that shit sounds,
I knew what it sounded like, but in the flow of the album oh that shit sounds i knew what it sounded like but in the flow of the album boy does it sound a lot better gonna i if hey you got it yeah respect
respect do you got it yo you did it i saw a lot of fans repeating the same sentiment like
i don't know about all that street shit, but this shit is fire. There you go.
Begs the question.
And then I don't like Thug announcing his album coming.
Yeah, I saw that.
I don't know.
You don't know what?
Do you think he did it?
You think it was intentionally to step on it?
Yes.
Okay.
And maybe.
I'm a civilian, so I don't know. it yes okay and maybe there's no there's no other reason that you do that if there's not some type
of anger involved here the label the label what might be trying to play the game that's the same
no which i'm no which is peaking the interest like a word let's create an animosity we're
gonna put both of these shits out so so you're going to go buy his shit,
and you're going to go buy his shit
to see which one sound better,
and now we're going to get two sales.
I'm actually, might be rolling with this one.
Yeah, like, we're going to get two sales.
It may be label games.
I don't care about what y'all talking about.
Academics posted the comment of somebody
asking Young Thug's sister if she was going to post
Gunna's album or Cop the album,
and her reply was, publicly, it's on his page, was,
no, make sure you do it so I can eat.
Now what do y'all have to say?
Since y'all were all in it, that means nothing to y'all?
No.
I think the label still has an agenda,
which is just make both of these motherfuckers sell.
So now we're going to play.
Remember 50 and Kanye?
Not that 50 and Kanye is in that particular scenario.
I get it.
But yo, we're going to create this oomph.
And now both of us
are going to eat off of it.
The label is going to eat either way.
The label is not stepping on
gun and shit
with one of their own joints.
They're not going to do that.
Again, I'm saying that
I don't think they're stepping on it.
I think they're inciting the riot
Okay
So now we gonna both go
Buy both albums
To see which one sound better
Not even sound
And compare them
But not even sound
What's funny is to me
If y'all ain't even
Opened your brain
To even think about
Well what if this guy's upset
Well I mean
No we thinking about that
Okay
Motherfuckers wanna hear
what they both gotta say
you get what I'm saying
like we gonna
oh what you said
oh oh
dang he said that
in response
oh
and we gonna play off it
and we gonna eat
that's my opinion
I didn't like it
I didn't like it
I didn't hear any shots
and granted
I only listened to it one time
so I don't have
a deep dive in the lyrics
but I didn't hear any shots
from Gunna towards Thug or any of that camp
specifically I have to listen more to before I start deep diving on shots and
subliminals because he did a lot of talking he did and he's internet kids
already got breakdowns running around what percentage of bars was aimed at him
what percentage was about the case like They already got that going on.
Like I said, I only listened to this two times,
once at five in the morning when I bought it,
and again when I woke up when I got in the shower.
So give me a little more time.
Today, I bought more albums today than I have all year.
I think so, too.
What else came out?
Killer Mike.
Oh, my Lord, yo.
That killer, that Michael. He went crazy. They went crazy. That Michael project. my Lord, yo. That killer, that Michael.
He went crazy.
They went crazy.
That Michael project.
Hold up, man.
Well, not y'all.
Hold up.
Okay.
Yeah, I can't wait to talk to him because I got questions.
This album sounds very different from other people's albums of late in that it sounds like they actually fucking tried.
You know what I'm saying a lot of people kind of do bare minimum shit with music and they did
bare maximum max maximum with this production wise feature wise musicianship
why does this drop a surprise or no he's been rolling this out for a minute okay
he's had a couple singles. This is Spaceship Views,
Killing My Encouragement,
T-Shane,
Cash Page. Fuck a play bank, he won't make some up I put your bitch on a wave runner I was on the yacht deck, waving from it
I bought these trunks in London
I bought this hoodie on Fairfax, I'm all over honey
Like traces of that cocaine, I'm all over money
Eastside
And the spaceship blowin' my face off
I don't take no days off
Too many y'all niggas laid up
And that's why y'all niggas laid off
Nigga gave me dirt when I fell off But I ain't write no tell-all My book givin' you game, nigga Oh, come on. Come on, no ID. Oh, my God, no ID.
That little...
Oh, my God, yo.
Oh, my man, turn this nigga off. Still blowing in the flight, nigga. Son of Atlanta, I am a product of grandma and grandma. The drunker I get and the slumber I get and you hear that real one tell me no.
Turn this nigga off.
Turn this nigga the fuck off, yo.
I told him yesterday.
I spoke to him on air.
Slaughterhouse used to be talking about features to have
and when Killer Mike came up,
long talks needed to be had.
Like, are y'all sure y'all want to invite
this headache over here?
Like, y'all ready for'all want to invite this headache over here? Like y'all ready for all us?
kill a mic yo and
No ID that one
Imagine being a rapper and this come on in the studio, yo.
Peace out.
And the spaceship blowing my face off
I don't take no days off
Too many y'all niggas laid up
And that's why y'all niggas laid off
Killing Mike told me yesterday, and he's gonna come here and speak to us.
He told me that this is undeniably one of the best, greatest albums ever made.
And I'll let him come expound on that.
But.
This is Shed Tears, Killer Mike and Mozzy.
Track two.
The features were phenomenal.
Everything on this album is phenomenal.
Interesting choices.
Like Mozzy is an interesting choice, kind of.
We love Mozzy, but Killer Mike and Mozzy wouldn't think there would be a thing.
Mozzy floated.
Floated.
Mozzy floated, yo.
But Killer Mike knows the rappers.
He does.
He knows who can rap.
He does.
Listen to No I.D. setting the mood.
Whole album executive produced by No I.D., by the way.
Yes.
If you're wondering why I keep bringing up him, bring him up.
Uh-oh.
Ay, brother, brother, an enemy more than mothers.
It's noted today's a number that life might be filled with troubles.
Your troubles may come in doubles and form of your former lovers. This beat is buggin' in the background. Damn it keep gettin' harder Have mercy, every week somethin' hittin' me adversely I remember droppin' my babies off at the church nursery
I remember seein' her around alone in the church service
Askin' God to reveal me a plan and a higher purpose
Was a boy, now I'm grown, immaturity gone
Blind scheming and dreaming, that cue is gettin' your all
Ask anybody that know me, I suffered slowly for years
And now I'm like Kobe waiting to give you
That's for you
Yo dawg
Crazy yo
He is
Bugging
In this studio
Yeah
No they put time into this
They put money into this
They put effort into this
Top to bottom
And you can hear it And you can hear it.
And you can hear it.
Oh, my God.
Apple Music, you know what I mean?
Nah.
You want to cop that with A$AP.
They showed up.
Mike got, let me just read.
Killing Mike.
CeeLo Green, Mozzy, Young Thug, Black, Aaron Allen, Jagged Edge, Andre 3K, Ty Dolla $ign on two.
He's got him on a couple, yeah.
Yeah, but he spoke to that.
He said a lot of things just fell in my favor, this project.
I send Ty Dolla $ign one joint.
He sends me back two.
I end up using them both.
He said I spent a lot of money, a lot of my own money.
I had to talk to my wife about it, who's a businesswoman and accountant,
and she's like, what the fuck are you doing?
And I said, I'm building my art.
And then I said,
Jesus had to build it.
Noah had an art
boy, you know what I mean? He deserves this, though.
He deserves to do that, because his albums
have
never sounded like this.
You know what I'm saying? In terms of
he's got some great albums rap to me
is a classic and we'll talk to him about more of that later run the jewels are both classic
projects but this is like his magnum opus it feels like that it sounds like that it's titled like
that it's titled like that and any and anytime you get listen i know i'm dick riding, but No I.D. is him.
He is.
One of my favorite No I.D. projects is with James Fauntleroy.
Remember Cocaine 80s? Cocaine 80s.
I mean, and I can't find it anywhere.
Because of No I.D.
No I.D. is a weirdo, yo.
James Fauntleroy is also like creepy.
Oh yeah, he's the other weirdo.
Dumb two niggas together.
That music will never be anywhere.
I tried to tell people about it,
and people are looking at me like I'm smoking crack.
I'm like, you didn't.
No, because they both too fucking artsy head at it.
Artsy and with music rights.
They know everything in music.
No, I'm not giving you this album label.
I'm not giving you this group.
Jhene Aiko was in it.
Common was in it. It was so good.
If I recall correctly, that was SoundCloud shit, right?
Yeah.
That was SoundCloud shit. It wasn Yeah. That was SoundCloud shit.
It wasn't, um...
Who, me?
I got everything, Koke.
I know you got it.
Hold on, man.
What you want to hear?
I'm going to need you.
I'll let you hear the first joint that did it for them.
Oh, no.
I'll let you.
This is my joint right here.
Yeah, no.
I'll play the first record.
The first joint is Anywhere But Here.
Love got me feeling like sweet 16.
Feels like I'm 16. This is summer 2012-ish. got me feeling like sweet 16.
Feels like I'm 16.
This is summer 2012-ish.
Yeah, we'll feel what?
Best summer ever, whatever it was.
Yup, and then we'll feel what?
Remix.
Move your butt.
17, and that'll be a whole nother thing.
Here we go.
And in the range all the time, all the time, with the grind on the run all the time. And that'll be a whole nother thing Here we go Hey
Oh man
I think this is them showing off Oh, yeah, she sure was fine. She put me one day and I blew up. I took a dive. My nigga was hot
I heard that you I think this is them showing off
Oh, yeah
If you gonna jump, oh, yeah, she said she's falling in love
This year was so far That I could get a sign to put it right in the book Oh yeah, you do look good in the book
This shit was so fire, the bullwining
Take me with you
Think we're meant to
Change my life and fall in love
She said, anywhere love's like a lamp
Anywhere love but a laugh.
Anywhere loves but a laugh.
Goodbye.
Yeah.
They put out like two projects, three projects.
Yep.
Short EPs. All short EPs of all original greatness.
And no idea who was him before even this.
This is late.
Oh, long before.
All of them was before this.
Yeah, no doubt.
But the combo of him
and James Fauntleroy
was like finding hidden gold.
You know what I mean?
And you can hear,
like, Chris Brown
when James Fauntleroy sings
because Chris has literally said
he's like his favorite songwriter.
Like, he loves
when he comes on board.
James Fauntleroy did
that Justin Timberlake album
with all that good Timberlake.
Justified?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
The 2020.
The first one.
What's the 2020?
You mean Sexy Back?
The Marys.
No, no, no.
2020 is Marys, Suit and Tie with Jay-Z.
Oh, gotcha, gotcha.
That's a little later on.
But yeah, James Fon LeRoy is him.
Back to Killer Mike, though.
I don't even know what to say about this project.
Just listen to it.
Just listen to it.
Oh, I'll give you one more.
I'll give you $10.
He bugged out.
They bugged out here.
They bugged out.
Top to bottom, man.
Talked about all types of different shit.
Like, it's not, it doesn't, it never drags.
It is evident.
I do better when.
I feel like the world against me. I think I should never win. Can't, it never drags.
We got Dave Chappelle talking on his beat. Pockets coming home from rocking 20 in the pit Trying to make a mess with baby mamas, get to know the kids
And they cannot sell no marijuana, flow won't let them in
Man them crackers let a nigga out, but will not let us in
He is never dead, I do better when I'm
Listen to it on your own time, yo, it's really good
It's really good
Damn, I wonder if he did this all indie
I think he did
It doesn't say, uh, major underneath it
Sure enough enough don't
That's
That's probably why
He had to pay all that money
Out of pocket
Yeah no doubt
No doubt
Go kill him Mike man
Or
Can't wait to kick it with him
Kiana Leide
Yeah
Dropped
I ain't listened to her yet
But
I'm a huge fan
I listened to half of it
And it sounds great
Me too
I don't know who that is
Yes you do Yeah you do Yes you do it's r&b girl you
played it before she's she's great she wanted them she wanted a newer class r&b great writers
turnt singers that she's just real good she's amazing uh who else who else who else dropped
a lot of r&b dropped but we can get to that at another time because I haven't listened to everything. But shout out to everybody, man.
Shout out to everybody that dropped.
Let me see here.
Hip boy dropped a project with his pops.
I ain't listened to it yet,
but that's super fire to me.
Okay.
His pops just came home.
We put out an album with him.
That is dope.
That's amazing.
Oh, Ombre dropped.
Oh, yeah.
I did see.
Ombre dropped.
I didn't cop.
I got to cop that.
Bought that.
Alex Vaughn.
Ooh. Sir. Holy cow. Fabo. Oh yeah I did too Ombre Drop I didn't cop I gotta cop that Bought that Alex Vaughn Sir
Oh damn
Fabbo
Alex Isley
There's a lot of R&B to get to
And you know I'm gonna get to it
So we'll give reviews
We'll give reviews next week
The Keanu shit is my sleeper actually
Who is that?
Oh that's my sleeper
My dumb ass
Who is that?
Oh that's my sleeper. My dumb ass. Who is that? Oh, that's my sleeper.
The Fun Cash!
My dumb ass.
That's what.
Shout out to all the musicians out there, man.
I appreciate y'all doing it.
I appreciate the feeling that I get on Thursday night
when the music drops and it's something you've been anticipating.
That has never died since childhood, so thank you.
And thank you for finally coming this year with some music.
Jesus, it's been a tough year for finally coming this year with some music. Jesus.
It's been a tough year for me.
Yeah, we heading into July.
What the hell y'all waiting for?
Word.
It doesn't feel like we're heading into July either.
It don't, yo.
It really do feel like the year just started.
Outside of the weather, it just, the shit is flying, my nigga.
To me.
Yeah, it got some way to be.
It's moving like it got some way to be.
That shit crazy.
Yeah, because my vacation is July, and this shit is creeping up.
Yeah.
Next month.
Mm-hmm.
Shit is...
I'm ready, though.
You know, I'm a fall.
Bring me the fall.
I'm a fall, dude.
Bring me the fall and the winter.
I actually plan on kind of staying in the crib a little bit this summer.
Like, I ain't got nothing crazy going on.
Send some little white kids down there
to ruin Great Adventure.
Niggas turn little dirty-ass kids.
They got Great Adventure looking a mess.
Don't you dare go there after 5 o'clock.
What's wrong with you, Tom?
Nothing.
I've been to Great Adventure after 5 o'clock.
Talking about frightening.
Yeah, I was frightened.
It worked.
You said last year was a whole bunch of bullshit.
You step foot over there
if you want.
There's a mess over there.
Niggas will rob you.
Niggas got their guns
in Great Adventure.
Why do you need your gun here?
It's a kid's park.
Word.
Oh, man.
Come on, let's talk about something
where we can get these two involved.
Come on, come on.
Let's pass the ball over here.
You know, they ain't heard no music
but it be the Baker.
They ain't heard nothing that came out.
He ain't even heard a sleeper.
What's the most important? What's the most important?
What's the most important? Come on, let's get this.
I see you. That Sukiyama topic is
burning a hole in you. It really is. Come on, come on, let's do it.
She wanted to start a conversation. Yeah, let's get right to it.
Come on, let's wake it up. Wake it up. Come on, Mel.
Come on, Mel. I mean...
You and MC Lyte was talking over
lamb chops about this shit.
Well, no, it came up in conversation.
It was like, it was a table.
You know, five of us ladies were just, you know, enjoying dinner.
And it came up in conversation because it's everywhere right now.
What's everywhere?
Okay, so Sukiana, if you're not familiar with who she is, she is.
A lot of people, and this is where a lot of people are not familiar with her.
I'm not with her.
Yeah.
I'm not all the way familiar with her either.
Same.
Same Zs.
Because we all tell.
That's it.
A little bit.
So she's a rapper, but she also has an OnlyFans page.
She leads with sexuality.
Apparently her OnlyFans page is pretty graphic.
Did you subscribe or are you just hearing that from the curb?
No, it's, it's just, it's being discussed widely everywhere.
You know, you turn a lot of, and I'm going to get to that.
A lot of people are justifying the things that have happened to her because of the fact
that she leads with hypersexuality and that she has performed sex acts on her OnlyFans page,
apparently with her boyfriend.
So she was just at some kind of event.
She was sitting at a table.
Little Duval was on one side.
And I'm not sure who was sitting on the other.
Funny Marco.
And Funny Marco.
Two comedians.
Freaky, is it Freaky Marco?
Funny Marco.
Okay, I'm trying to get everybody together, right?
Okay.
Is it Freaky Marco? No, it's not Freaky, is it Freaky Marco? Funny Marco. Okay, I'm trying to get everybody together, right? Is it Freaky Marco?
No, it's not Freaky Marco.
So, YK Osiris, he's Meek's artist, correct?
We old as hell.
I don't, listen, he's the doofy nigga that was running around Drake house for fucking three months
and running up on Lil Baby.
Everybody said, oh, you owe me money.
You owe me money.
That's who I know him to be.
I haven't heard any of YK Osiris's music.
My son has.
I have my little cousins, my girl's kids.
The kids have heard his music.
I think he's an annoying little nigga who every time i hear his name is for
everything outside of music right i've been off of him got it long before this so the only reason
why i asked is because meek sent out a series of tweets which i will get to in a second so anyways
they're at this event she's sitting in between duval and marco and yk osiris walks up to her
and he grabbed he puts his hands on her shoulders and then he grabs her face
and he sticks his tongue down her throat. She does not know him. Um, and she was visibly
uncomfortable, but she was also, you know, giggling. She just, it was really cringy to watch
this thing happen. And he did it more than once. And then he walked away and he was smirking and smiling and whatever else.
People lost their shit when they saw this.
And then the second thing that happened involving Sukiana was she was on Candy's podcast, which is also a very sexually based kind of conversation that they have.
And her co-host, he was body turned into Sukiana and basically just asking her like very lewd questions.
I mean, it's a sex based podcast, but still it was very, you know, well, if I did this to you, you know, could I eat your pussy?
And all this stuff that is just like this isn't really an interview.
And then at one point Dick Size comes up. Candy says, you know,
you must like 10 inches or something like that. She was like, no, I'm good with five. Five is
great for me, blah, blah, blah. And her co-host pulls up a picture on his phone, we assume it's
his dick, and shows it to her. And her face is literally like, looks at the picture and then
just looks away. So in these two circumstances, we saw her looking really uncomfortable,
but not knowing exactly what to do in these circumstances
because she's got cameras trained on her.
And then this gets out into the public forum
and everybody just starts discussing it.
And since then, she sent out a tweet basically saying
that she was afraid at that moment.
And she just didn't and she didn't know how to do and didn't know what to do and didn't know how to react.
Since then, everybody's released a tweet.
Y.K. Osiris has issued an apology tweet.
Meek's been tweeting. Everybody's been talking about it.
But the primary conversation in comment sections has been either one consent consent consent there's no discussion past that
that word in that con that concept and the other half is people saying if this is how you introduce
yourself to the world then you deserve what you get no that's crazy and it would amber rose piped
up in this whole situation.
It was I've got a couple of the tweets here. I'll read them.
This is this is Amber. Are we really going to sit back and let this happen to Sukiana?
She was sexually assaulted and no one did anything. This is the entertainment business and she is an entertainer.
Using her lyrics and her persona as an excuse to physically touch her and force her without her consent is absolutely disgusting. What happened to protect black women? I cried when watching that video and I'm sure a lot of women have as well. Sukiyana's exact tweet was,
I am hurt and I'm scared to stand up for myself. That was the tweet that she'd issued. And
apparently she's kind of deactivated or temporarily deactivated her social media accounts because of all of this stuff.
Y.K. Osiris, his apology was.
Mel, Mel, Mel, enough. Enough with your phone. What do you think?
I'm on the side of consent is consent, like just taking somebody's lyrics or, you know, what she does
on her OnlyFans page, you know, it's a form of entertainment. Whether we morally agree with it
or not, walking up to a woman, grabbing her face and sticking your tongue down her throat,
that is sexual assault. That's disgusting. It's gross. Yeah, it's really gross. I'm with you on
it. And there was, I mean, there was a lot of women saying the same thing, you know, of how you introduce yourself to the world is how they're going to treat you and that sort of thing.
And it's like, it's just, it kind of blows my mind in 2023, even after hashtag Me Too and everything else. And just like everybody's changing or elevated concept
as to understanding what consent actually means
and also understanding that sex work is a paid profession.
Whether you agree with it or not morally or whatever the case is,
it is a paid profession.
It does not mean that you can walk up to this person and act like they're a fucking fire hydrant and piss on them. You know what I mean?
So it was kind of difficult to watch. And I know exactly what she meant by saying I was afraid and
I don't know how to stand up for myself because these are the kinds of things, you know, not to
that extent, but that people would try with me. And all I did was do music
videos, but you'd swear the way that I was treated back then, I was doing the exact same thing that
she was, you know what I mean? It's just like the, the idea of, um, you know, what's respectability
politics and what's considered moral and amoral. It's that's what the conversation is really about. And also what was disturbing was to see
that no man came to her rescue during that whole situation. No one said, Hey, yo, yo, chill, get
off or what is your problem? No one did anything. They all laughed. And it's like, there's a saying
that every woman knows a woman who's been sexually assaulted, but no man knows a rapist.
I've never heard that.
I've never heard that saying.
Because it's something that women know.
Well, how would we know?
Yeah, I've never heard that.
That's very much a gotcha.
To your particular point, I saw it.
And from initially seeing it, I thought they knew each other.
Right.
So I could see how Deval or Marco wouldn't.
Because from the looks of it, it looked like they knew each other.
Once I read a little bit more and delved a little bit deeper, it was like, oh, wow, my man is bugging out.
Yeah, I'm not going to absolutely kill Marco and Deval.
Yeah, because it looked, and she was smiling.
Like, when he walked away, it was a nervous, like, a smile.
She should have punched him in his face.
I can't speak to that because there are many different coping mechanisms
in that moment for the person.
No, that's what I'm saying.
She looked scared.
We can't watch and say what somebody should do.
She ran underneath the table.
She damn near was stuffing herself under a table.
She should have punched him in the face.
So if you freeze in that moment,
or if you laugh to try to play it off,
to try to say not only your face,
but his face as well.
We are a press event.
It's famous people around.
It's nothing but cameras in front of me.
I'm a new aspiring act.
I got some heat out there.'re somebody now i gotta think about
who's backing you is it gonna hold is it gonna put a halt or hindrance to my career how she
reacted in that moment no i don't want to know i wasn't knocking her reaction i wasn't knocking i
know you're talking about the laugh the laugh and what it said it was a nervous laughter it wasn't a
ha ha ha that's my boy laughter but if you are a man in that moment.
You don't know if he knows.
If you're a man right there, you assume that they fucked.
Yeah.
You assume that they fucked.
You do.
And when she says, because she did verbally say, stop.
If you're an onlooker, maybe you thinking that she don't want that in the public in front of you.
Y'all fucked and she don't want y'all. you like that no more you know what i mean something to that effect
so i'm not going to totally go in on on them too uh was there more that should have been done by
them i think absolutely whack 100 is already on the internet calling them all types of pussy ass
buster ass niggas calling who uh funny marco and devol for for them just sitting there
but why am I
I'm not gonna talk about them
When I'm on Doofy Doo
Yeah
I'm on him still
It's him
Yeah
Yeah he
He issued an apology
It kind of sounds like
A publicist wrote it
I want to read the meek tweets
Dog it's no apology
That you can really give though
In my opinion
That it suffices
You walked up to a stranger
And started kissing her.
Mm-hmm.
What?
Yeah.
Well, you do need to apologize.
I know, I'm saying,
but there's nothing
that you can say.
I don't care what your publicist writes.
That's going to justify that.
But you go.
Meek says,
y'all drawing a big line
between men and women nowadays
on social.
It's getting bad
in the black community.
All this internet,
superficial shaming,
judging,
gaslighting only hurt us people. And it's a lot of people who need strength, especially young black
men. He might got a rumble, Suki brother, anything, but this same internet tear each other down stuff,
Suki can get what she wants. She feels violated, but let me mind my business.
And protect Suki. Osiris, you a DH, a dickhead.
Go back to church.
Stop following the heathens.
That was a weird hill to die on.
That was not his first tweet, though.
Yeah, he tweeted more.
Yeah, his first tweet was way more sympathetic for YK Osiris in the vein of like...
There's something like, please don't kill him.
Yeah, please don't.
He made a mistake or something.
Exactly.
Unfortunately, this is part of why Meek is my favorite tweeter of all time.
He's really tone deaf.
He's really, really tone deaf sometimes.
Yeah.
This wasn't the right tweet.
No, it wasn't.
This wasn't the right message.
No, it wasn't.
It was terrible messaging.
And it just, there is no tearing down of like black men and women in this particular subject.
What we witnessed, that was clearly a sexual assault.
It was.
Call a spade a spade.
It was unwanted physical sexual contact from a total fucking stranger in front of a whole
audience and now the world has seen it and now they're i think there is a tear down black men
and women subplot in here i just don't think now's the time to address it yeah i don't think it's
applicable here yeah i don't think this is yeah i don't think outside looking in i don't think
this is tearing down black men i think this is tearing down a black man that did something foul.
Yeah.
I think you got to draw the line.
Like, sometimes there is an agenda.
Or sometimes there's a broader conversation.
But for black men, I think sometimes you got to kind of start putting your foot in some of these young niggas' asses when they do dumb shit.
Like, that's the real accountability piece.
That's the real black men putting on for black men if
we want to talk about John Morant or if we want to talk about Joaquin Osiris I think sometimes
the black men need to put their foot in these young niggas asses whether private or in public
they do need a foot in their ass whether verbally or physically because that's the real accountability
piece you know I was I've written something down and it kind of applies to this like you know we
don't like to let and I'm not calling anybody in this situation an idol but just for the sake of
conversation we don't like to let our idols go down we lean too much into you know what I'd
written we lean too much into how they're being treated versus the actual act itself, not being, not separating the act from the person.
You know what I mean?
We do that on a lot of shit.
Yeah.
We do.
And unfortunately,
this is the broader conversation.
We do that with race issues.
We do that with gender issues.
We do that with all of that shit.
And sometimes,
some of these women be wrong.
Sometimes,
some of these races be wrong
or these religions be wrong and we and we kind of conflate the issues and I don't think that's
a good thing like your OGs need to put their foot in your ass yeah yeah it was I understand that you
could reason you know hey we don't know the situation between the two but perhaps a different
you know scenario you err on the side of caution and be like hey you guys know each other is this
cool is it a lot oh you know it's you know it's in that moment you want to know what's interesting
is when I did the primetime special with Light and Angie Martinez
and June Ambrose and Sherry and Lola, the last question that was posed to us that Angie kind of
threw up in the air for us to answer, and all of us really had no answer, was what can men do,
you know, in hip-hop to support and or protect women.
You know what I mean?
Because we started talking about how women have kind of banded together and supported each other's careers
to uplift, et cetera, et cetera.
We started thinking about how can men be of more support
or whatever the case is.
And it was interesting.
We really just collectively didn't really have an answer.
And I feel like it's an answer that can only be asked with men in the room.
I was about to say that.
You know?
No men in the room.
So I kind of pose that question here.
Like where, how could that situation have been avoided?
Because every man literally was just like, eh, threw the hands up.
I don't know.
It ain't on me.
It's not me.
I think the biggest piece is listening.
Right?
So, it's three dudes here, four dudes here, that just literally answered the question.
That went on deaf ears.
Do you think that if it was somebody else sitting at that table, do you think that if maybe it was, I don't know, Megan Good sitting at that table?
I'm just picking a name
out of the clear blue sky,
Megan Good or
Logan LaRisse or Bresha Webb,
somebody,
if it was anybody else
but Sukiana,
do you think that there would have been
a different reaction
from the men around them?
No.
I don't know.
I say no. Yeah, I don't know. I say no.
Yeah, I'm not even going to say no.
It's hard to even fathom that situation
because I don't think that he would have had the gall
to do that with someone.
But bigger than that, and we can move on
because we're repeating ourselves.
Dog, the onlookers don't know the relationship
that these two people have.
That's the biggest piece. They don't know that he don't know the relationship that these two people have. That's the biggest piece.
They don't know that he don't know the girl.
Nobody really randomly just walks up and starts tongue kissing somebody that they don't know.
The crazy part is they were sitting at a table and it was like, was it like some kind of press conference or something like that?
Like, were they announcing something?
It was some basketball.
It was, yeah.
I don't fucking know what that shit was.
I saw basketball. It said crew league or something on the table so i assume that it was
pressed for that yeah but even for him to even kind of like walk up was really what the fuck
you doing here you know what i mean like that's just the whole thing was the whole thing was
celebrity and he's a borderline celebrity thing yeah, the whole thing was funky. Well, no, he's a celebrity.
He's a borderline celebrity. It's a basketball thing, yeah, and this is the press.
You want all the celebrities to walk up there.
Okay.
No, no, go ahead and kill him, because I see you trying to kill him.
No.
Kill him, get his shit off.
I just think that the explanation that the men just gave, you didn't pull it in.
Like, dog, nobody would think that he didn't know the girl
if ish i'm not a celebrity but i'm i'm kind of popular now if i'm walking in a spot where
celebrities at a table and i walk up to the lady and start kissing her somebody's gonna assume that
i know this lady why does it why does it go and i'm i'm i'm you getting me. Nah, I don't want to either.
She's trying to get me.
I'm not getting me with this.
I don't want to.
But what I will present is, yeah, we need to discuss what black men can do to help black women in entertainment.
But why does nobody say anything about the company that's throwing the event?
The company that's throwing the event oh they're like their liability in this
yeah okay company that would be held liable needs to know what uh what sexual harassment looks like
what sexual abuse looks like uh they had other youtubers and people try to run on that press conference and security tossed them niggas like Jazzy Jeff out the house.
They tossed them right out of there.
So you have barriers in place.
But this is a famous kid, so you're not going to handle him that way.
But that is on y'all.
That's on y'all to staff events properly, to hire the correct people and not shortcut that happens a lot where
we shortcut and we cut in expenses so yeah we're not gonna have the what but i think it's the same
thing joe i think that again this kid is famous uh-huh if joe button walked up there they wouldn't
stop you right they wouldn't stop you they don't know if you got a relationship with the girl
so you wouldn't do it but let's just say Joe Budden walked up there and started talking.
He did it twice, no?
Yes.
I would think that after the first one, they would maybe stop tapering.
Yeah, he did it twice.
Get in their little earphones and be like, is this okay?
What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, cool.
I receive what you're saying.
There needs to be, the same way these companies have women in place to direct.
Same thing the NFL had to do.
We had to go get some women to teach us and tell us
how to handle women care for women
and treat them when they're on set professionally
there should have been somebody
there specifically
to make sure that the woman
shit that has been popping up for the last few
years is being protected
we're protected against that
and then after we discuss that I think we
can get to hey what should black men do as onlookers if you're ever in that situation?
And this needs to be just a teachable moment for all.
Yeah.
But I didn't see where the big debate was.
Flirting is not consent.
The end.
I don't give a fuck how much he was flirting with dude.
Yeah.
It ain't consent.
Like, where are we debating?
I don't.
we debating i don't the to me to me and you know glad that everybody feels the same way in this room there is no debate but it is wild to see how many people truly feel because of her persona and
how she has you know conducted herself or whatever the case is that somehow this warranted that she
egged it on that she egged it on and but that is all
that we don't
I don't want to harp on that
because that has always existed
and people victim blaming
hey what did she do
hey what is she wearing
she was asking for
yeah
that mentality
the people that think like that
yeah
they think like that
and they just been thinking
like they out there
and they're monsters
and yeah
banned from the earth
yeah but
we talking about young people
that's running around
getting money in different places
and meeting other famous
young rich people
for the first time
and different companies.
That's what I'm addressing.
I'm not,
all that,
all that other shit,
that middle of the country shit,
I don't know.
Yeah, well.
You got it out?
Yeah, no, no, no.
I just, it was,
I mean, it was.
I'm sure it was triggering.
It was, yeah. Yeah, a little bit. A. I just, it was, I mean, it was. I'm sure it was triggering.
Yeah, a little bit.
A little bit.
Young niggas doing young dumb shit.
Do you think that, do you think that his behavior warrants a charge?
And now, and this is what Meek was talking about.
This is what Meek was talking about. This is what Meek was talking about.
He did not see anything wrong with his behavior.
And to me, that's a lot of a problem.
That is a problem.
That you don't know that that was not fucking okay and that that was a criminal act.
So you want him to go to jail?
I posed a question.
I'm asking you.
Does anybody...
Do you think he's
charged yeah okay what women would feel like that too if that was your little sister that might have
been you get i'm saying like i mean if it's if it's your sister if it's your daughter if it's
your mom if it's your aunt if it's your female relative yes that, I think that's how you all will feel.
Yeah.
That's assuming.
That's assuming.
But it's a fine line.
If you think he should be charged, then you can't dismiss any of Meek's tweet.
Because this is exactly what Meek's tweet was talking about.
Look, I don't think the boy should go to jail.
I really, honestly, we can keep it a buck.
I think he deserves his ass whooped. That's. I really, honestly, we can keep it a buck. I think he deserves
his ass whooped.
That's what I really think.
But when you start
putting these kids
into the system
and all the other shit,
it might go a step further.
But I definitely believe
he deserves his
physical ass whipped.
There should be
some repercussion
of some sort.
But I'm not mad
at the women
for feeling like that.
And there will be.
I'm not mad
at the women
for feeling like that.
We black men
and we know
what the system and all of that shit does. But I'm not mad at the women for feeling like that. We black men and we know that what the system
and all of that shit does,
but I'm not mad at any woman
that feels like
he's under charge.
Neither am I.
I'm not mad at them for that.
But it's a loaded question
when you start asking black men.
Okay, let me ask you guys
a question.
Let me ask you guys
this question.
She ain't going to get us
out of here.
Have you?
Because I really,
I thought about this last night
and especially after
what I just said.
Every woman knows a woman who has been sexually assaulted, but no man knows a rapist.
Do you all, and you don't have to reveal any, obviously no names or anything, is there ever been somebody that you were cool with, friends with, that you saw the way that he treated and handled women that you were like, yeah, I got to get away from this dude.
He's on some next level shit.
Translation meaning he's rapey.
He's rapey.
So you understand that this is our daily existence.
We are taught to, when we're walking to our car,
hold our keys in our hand. We are taught respectability politics
of don't wear this in order to not attract that kind of attention. We're constantly taught that
we have to monitor and alter and safeguard ourselves, have a hypervigilant, hypervigilant about our personal safety because of, out of fear of what, you know,
what a man might do to us. You guys aren't, you guys don't live like that. That's how it is for
us all the time. I was having a conversation with girlfriends last night where we talk about
all of these safety precautions that we take in our daily lives. You know what I'm saying? And also
in our daily lives.
You know what I'm saying?
And also, another thing that we fear is rejecting a guy.
Rejection, rejecting a guy sometimes
will cause you physical harm or death.
You know what I mean?
It's not just, you're lucky if you just get,
oh, bitch, you ain't all that.
Some women will get spit on,
kicked, shot, whatever.
These are real situations that happen to women.
So when I saw Sukiana and I saw her level of discomfort,
you know what I saw?
I saw exactly what you saw, what you said,
but I'm going to say it differently.
The fear of offending,
the fear of affecting his life in a negative way,
the fear of who's attached to this scenario on the peripheral,
knowing that it's not just about me.
It's not just about what just happened at this very second in time. I've literally been on a
radio show where somebody like groped me, grabbed my fucking boob. Like, you know what I'm saying?
It just, this was wildly triggering and it was just insane. and it was a literal sexual assault taking place in front of
an audience and yeah sexual assault usually should result in in in charges yes yes all right
i challenge the audience out there honestly ask yourself who has the funnest podcast cast out? Honestly. Can you name a fun crew than this?
Huh?
Come on.
Think.
Really think.
We are amazingly fun.
We are.
We're awesome.
I tried to get this idea twice.
I thought she talked about it with light in them.
She wanted to go for a sauce.
She wanted to talk about it with light in them. She wanted to go for a song. She wanted to talk about it with dark in them.
She said, no, no, no, but I want to ask y'all.
No, no, no, no, no.
This conversation is important with y'all.
What you think?
She tried.
See those rain clouds coming through?
God damn.
You bought the clouds.
You can't even produce through it because you were saying low.
You can't tell him that.
You got to shut up.
You got to shut up. You got to shut up.
I tried to spit this off
in a job of rant
with my little young nigga
doing dumb shit.
Flo.
I ain't seen a white woman yet
tweet Conor McGregor
should be arrested.
I'm not here to bring up race.
It's the weekend.
I got fun shit to talk about.
I got fun shit.
I got fun shit to talk about. Listen, dog. I got fun shit to talk about. I got fun shit. I got fun shit to talk.
Listen,
dog,
I got fun shit to talk about.
There you go.
Hey,
actually not straying too far from this conversation.
Shaquille O'Neal,
50 shades of gray.
Oh shit.
Or purple.
How's it not 50 shades of gray?
Let me tell you something.
If I did it,
it'd be bad.
It'd be bad.
No washer and dryer in the world.
Oh, my Lord.
Out of that creepy act.
If I DM'd a young woman and ain't get no rhythm and I was at her job the next day.
In a Home Depot apron, spitting one of the hardest verses I've spit in the last few years.
And buying people washing machines
and drying them.
Oh, they would have my ass.
They would have my ass, buddy.
It would be really different commentary.
But it's cool.
Y'all told me.
And you know what?
I'm about to go off now.
These fucking stupid people
that write comments about this.
I hate their fucking guts. Let me get my shit off. Oh oh you can tell joe joe i can't believe joe's take on that
home depot situation whoa you can tell he's dealing with the escorts and the horrors and
oh my god he's thinking he doesn't know a normal girl anywhere i am so shocked at what he you
fucking idiots i gotta be real i can't believe people are so fucking stupid
I'm wrong for saying that
the content creator
should want to keep in touch with Shaq
is that what they said?
that's what they said
they were saying that you were implying that she should fuck Shaq
I didn't imply a thing because I said take sex out of it
platonically
there are a million reasons why that
young lady which should want to have a line with chat there's a bunch of
reasons why she shouldn't have been as short as she was taking sex out of it
you are a content creator this man owns mad businesses and invests in people and
and is marketable he gets on if he does, this is the perfect person
to speak to
if you're a content creator.
True.
And he landed in your shit.
He's a walking business.
He's a walking business.
He is.
Not only that,
he helps the young people.
He helps the young.
He helps everybody.
He helps young,
old,
helps everybody in the world.
Could have at least
got a washer dryer
out of the situation.
That's what I'm saying.
Ah,
you stupid idiots out there.
Shaq might have wanted to tumble her dryer though, yo.
Well, that's his business.
He might have wanted to put her in a spin cycle.
I mean. That's on him.
Well, then you got to learn how to dangle your pussy properly.
And that's where they call me.
And that's where they call you.
But why? I'm a guy. I'm a guy.
I'm a realist in today's generation.
There's girls out here dangling it.
That's the flip side of all that mushy shit that Melissa just said.
No, it's another flip side, but I ain't one.
I know.
I'm not doing anything.
She ain't tricking me today.
This is a fun cast.
Yeah, Shaq went back over there, started rapping, started buying people things.
The verse was great.
He's mad tall.
The verse was fire. He had mad tall. The verse was fire.
He had the apron on.
I think he bought Home Depot.
He had to buy that apron.
He might have bought 17 Home Depots.
No one else.
Here come the O'Hare.
Just in case.
Look at the internet.
Oh, my God.
This is so fire.
This is so cute.
Wow.
Shack is the man.
I almost drove right to Home Depot.
I wanted to see.
I wanted to just do a little test. Bump, bump. Yeah, but I can't hate. Nah, it. I wanted to see. I wanted to just do
a little test.
Bump, bump.
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but I can't hate.
Nah, it would have had
to have been a new verse.
That was a new Shaq verse.
He killed that shit.
He killed that shit.
He bodied it.
Shout out to Shaq, man.
Shout out to Shaq.
Shout out to Shaquille O'Neal
and shout out to
Home Depot, I guess.
Yeah.
And washer and dryers.
They said that,
she said that she had, speaking of the girl,
she said she had to quit.
She said...
I don't care.
Oh, okay.
I don't care.
She also said she's mad that she doesn't have brand deals.
Girl's full of shit.
From all the...
That girl's a cloud chaser.
Yeah.
From the increase of her popularity.
And a bad one.
Yeah.
She don't know how to dangle that either.
Oh, Jesus. She don't know. She want brand deals, but she cut the't a bad one. Yeah. She don't know how to dangle that either. Oh, Jesus.
She don't know.
She won brand deals, but she cut the Shaq conversation short.
See what I mean?
Hey, Redditors, answer that one, bitch-ass niggas.
Hey, look, that's one reason that should have been a little extended.
Oh, my God.
All right, what else is going on?
What else?
John Morant got what?
25 days of suspension. That's official? That's official. What a letdown, my God. All right, what else is going on? What else? John Morant got what? 25 games in suspension.
That's official?
That's official.
What a letdown, Adam Silver.
You souped me up.
I thought we had a big one coming.
Yeah, he thought the hammer was coming down.
Yeah, yeah.
I was waiting for it.
He could have announced that right during the finals.
I don't know what he's talking about.
He could have put that right on the bottom ticker.
Yeah, it would have been fine.
Easily.
Yeah.
25 games.
25 games.
Dang, she sat out more games than that Easily. Yeah. 25 games. 25 games.
She sat out more games than that last year.
No.
He had nine?
No, I mean, he didn't play in, is what I'm saying.
Not for suspension reasons. Yeah, between that.
How do we feel?
We feel it's too less, right?
Too little?
I think so, but shit.
If Adam Silver pussy, pussy.
Did you guys think it was going to?
That's my man, too.
I take that back.
That's my man.
Adam Silver or John Marotta? No, Adam Silver. Do you think that he deserved the year's suspension? think it was going to... That's my man too. I take that back because that's my man. Adam Silver or John Morant?
No, Adam Silver.
Do you think that he deserved
the year suspension?
I'm not going to say that.
No.
He didn't break the law.
I think he would have sent
a solid message
with a bigger than 25 game.
Like half the season.
Yeah, something.
Money going money.
Right.
He's a star.
Yeah.
Mal's what's-her-name
got 30 games
for that shit he did.
Mal's Bridges.
How does John Morant get 30 games? What shit he did miles bridges how does john morant get 30 games i know i won't say i'm not cute he did something bad oh okay
yo stop you do your little dumb voice
um i think 25 games i thought it was going to be half the season at least. But 25 games, I mean half the season,
might potentially take them out of playoff contention.
We can't have that.
But last year, and this is just me being basketball,
but they played better without him.
Not better, but they won mad games without him.
I just think that he's too much of a star now.
I think with LeBron on his way out,
Jha is one of the hopeful faces of the NBA,
and they market in Jha.
This just furthers the theory that,
well, this cements the theory that Adam Silver
is really a player's commissioner.
Yeah.
David Stern would have tore his ass up.
What?
David Stern would have cracked him.
David Stern would have sent his ass to the PGA.
Right to Dubai.
Going over there to Saudi Arabia.
Go ahead, L.I.V.
Yo, nah, David Stern would have toured.
What?
He wouldn't have played with him.
Yeah, nah, but I think Adam Silver,
well, they said, I know,
that Adam Silver sat and got the opinions
of the players, the commission.
So I think the commission might have been as lenient
and maybe describing that these young kids,
because I've heard a bunch of things that were compelling
to how these young kids are out here now.
Say what?
Moving around.
What you mean?
Like, it's unfortunate that these young kids are growing up
in a hip-hop era that really glorifies guns and violence.
Even more so than we've ever seen.
Yes.
More than we've ever seen.
And it's a cool thing to do.
So we all know also, and I'm not caping for him, but rap music, athleticism, it all kind of ties in.
All of the professional athletes want to be rappers and the rappers want to play ball.
So it kind of ties in.
And this is what these little kids are out here doing now. of the little kids my little cousins be sending me turquoise
guns i didn't know guns came in color dead ass serious they got the clip that's turquoise that's
facts like yo what the fuck so they they like it'd be good kids with them too yes they like they
really are um they got a fascination with just violence and gun, Joe, and the shit is crazy, and rap
glorifies it a little more than when we were
coming up. Rap glorified
drug dealing when we was coming up. It did.
But now it's glorifying just
taking a nigga head off, and these young kids
are... I always get so triggered when we
put it on rap.
Dog, rap is a very big influence
in the urban community, Joe.
We can't lie about it.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not blaming it on rap.
I'm just saying it definitely plays a part.
I'm with you on the influence in the urban community.
But once we start talking about guns and fascination with them,
we still in America.
Yeah.
Right after pussy came guns.
Yeah.
Not the fascination.
America is fascinating. It's a few things are bigger than guns, isn't it?
Cars, money, women.
I watch.
Guns might be fourth or fifth.
I watch enough History Channel to know guns was never fourth and fifth.
While everybody was chilling in their respective hoods,
the niggas that had the real guns and could access the real guns
came and took your shit.
They took over.
And the only difference was
y'all had slingshots
and we had guns.
This has been
hundreds of hundreds.
And then when you got guns,
our relationships
enabled us to get bigger and better,
faster guns that shot farther.
The Gatling gun.
It's always been guns.
Power and guns.
So, yeah. Correlation between power and guns.
Where do you think these niggas is getting
It's Saturday man I'm not doing this.
But niggas ain't just getting guns
and when dude
almost shot me in the head and tossed
the gun when the cops found that gun
they thought I was lying because
black people shouldn't have access to this gun.
That type of gun. Whatever gun he had, nah, it's not a hood gun.
So what really happened, Joe?
I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Making up a story?
German shit.
It was a fire gun.
He had some heat.
Thank God that jammed.
These the ones that don't jam.
That's what they said.
This ain't supposed to jam.
I started talking to God.
God, you did that shit, that jam.
I think in the John Morant thing, I think 25 games might be too little.
I think they should have hit him with a half a season.
I think they should have hit him with a half a season just to show like,
yo, dog, we not playing.
To all the new dudes coming in, we not playing with none of y'all.
So y'all idolizing him this is what he got and if we could do this to him and he's one of the up-and-coming
faces of the league we're gonna really crack y'all don't come in here on no bullshit y'all
better come in here tiptoeing so i think that um 25 i'm sure he's pleased he got a gift he got a
gift i'm sure he's happy he got a gift That's star power He did Yeah definitely Alright go John
Go John
I dare you do it again
I double dare you
I dare you get your ass
Out there with that
Hootenanny
I ain't gonna defend you
No more
Cause I defended him
Do you think he does it again
Nah
Do you think his name
Comes across
Adam Silver's radar
At all this upcoming season
No
For a negative reason
No
I hope not
Like
They just showed the AI shit
They showed the AI shit when Philly was gonna trade AI
And he was like dog
That's the most focus I've ever been in my life because I wanted to stay there so bad
That I put away all the street shit all the side shit. He fuck around have an MVP year
Yeah, cuz he was out there do uh
Climbing on jeeps like now
That's what you got it from, yo?
He was climbing on top of that Jeep like mail.
Oh, man.
He pulled this gun out.
You pulled your guns out?
I got it.
I got you.
I got you.
Yo, Mariah Mills, you got to shut the fuck up now.
She will never.
You got it.
It's over, ma.
Ma, ma.
That was 100 a month.
Ma, ma.
Ma, ma.
She's never shut up.
Radio silence, yo.
I know it hurt.
It hurt when you lose the big fish.
Stupid.
I know it hurt.
I know you going through it.
I know that these last few weeks quality of life has depreciated some.
She's going to scare away the other fish.
And I know it's painful.
That's the bigger problem for her.
Yo, you dodo.
No, he cried when she sucked his dick.
She'll be fine.
She'll be fine.
Give her a little bit of time.
They always bounce back.
They'll bounce back.
There'll be a new, there's a new, there's a draft coming up.
The draft is coming up.
There'll be a new.
New shoes and tight dress.
Right there.
But Mariah, listen, you got to shut the, it's over.
It's over now.
You got all the pod coverage.
You got the blog coverage.
You got whatever wire transfer he sent, tuck it and hold it tight.
You better squeeze it.
Hold it tight.
You better squeeze it.
But you gotta shut the fuck up.
We tired of it now.
There's a petition going around.
We tired of it.
Enough.
Zion might be coming to New York, so.
No, no.
No.
Yeah. Moriah done got Zion traded. Knew they was. We tired of it. Enough. Zion might be coming to New York, so. No, no. No. Yeah.
Moriah done got Zion traded.
Knew they was getting him out of there.
They gonna send Julius Randall as right to New Orleans.
No, they not.
Stop.
Stop this.
Hyperbole.
Stop this malarkey.
You just don't want to hear it.
Yeah.
It's not true.
We'll see.
You know New York.
I'm the resident Nick fan here, right?
Yeah.
I'm telling y'all, that's not true.
That won't be happening.
It's the Robinson, Cano, Melky, Cabrera, Ice-ish.
You think we sending.
We might not be the happiest with R.J. Barrett right now.
You think we bringing in your fucking best friend over here
that happens to play the same
position as the person that we just gave a hundred million dollars to and you only played 39 percent
of games the last however many years and this new nick regime has shown nothing but patience you
think we passed on donovan mitchell for z? I hope not.
It's not happening.
And if you did that out there, y'all be thinking that the NBA is so uppity, uppity and proper.
I told y'all Zion was getting out of there.
If you think the NBA heads, especially Nick heads, because they know what New York does to people,
are not looking at Mariah saying, if he did that in New Orleans,
with that,
there is no way,
that's going to step further,
zero chance,
that he gets over here
with that country bumpkin bullshit.
Yeah, so the rights of Oklahoma.
He'll file for bankruptcy.
He will file for bankruptcy.
Yo, quick.
They are trained assassins out here.
That's true.
They won't play with him.
Gobble guy.
Eat him right up.
That's what he did.
Eat him right up.
He'll be skinny, though.
It'll be a chick that disappeared,
got off the scene, coming back to the game.
He'll be like, oh, shit.
Where she been at?
Yo.
Red carpet with this goofy nigga.
It might work, though, because he might be skinny.
That nigga fucked up and heartbroken.
He ain't get skinny quick.
He'll lose some weight.
He will lose some weight.
That heartache guy, you skinny to the motherfucker.
Even them dunks ain't been looking all crazy lately, man.
He better not come out.
I'm telling you.
Take it from me.
I'm on a list of about seven people that know.
Yeah, they'll tear his ass up, yo.
They would.
But. Save yourself. We gonna see up, yo. They would. But.
Save yourself.
We gonna see.
Save yourself.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
Knicks do some dumb shit.
We'll see, yo.
Knicks ain't done something dumb
in a little while.
Hopefully they turn the corner.
Knicks ain't done something dumb
in a little while.
True.
They ain't done something dumb
in a little while.
It's been a little while.
I got a basketball question
I want to ask y'all
before we move on
to all of the rappity rap,
murder trial,
killer killer gang gang,
bang bang,
shoot them up, consent flirting, like all of the rappity rap, murder trial, killer killer gang gang bang bang, shoot them up
consent flirting, like all of this
fucking shit. Yo, I'm not quite about to talk
about all the shit that they want me to talk about.
Y'all not either.
Street shit? No. No, none of it.
None of this shit on the board.
But anyway, the number
one pick, Victor, I don't know how to pronounce his last name. He anyway, the number one pick, Victor.
I don't know how to pronounce his last name.
But he's Victor.
You know who he is. You know who he is.
My question to y'all is this guy is being called arguably the greatest prospect ever.
We know what teams were trying to do to get the number one pick for him.
He's an alien.
He's seven foot six with Kevin Durant abilities.
I'm about to ask you a really stupid question that requires y'all to project a little bit.
question is are we sure that victor wap babaloo bop babop bamboo should be the first pick of the draft yes i would say yes please tell me more i i would say yes because even if he's a bust
right even if he don't do shit, his upside is so high
that you can't afford to pass him up.
Like, niggas will start losing their job
if they don't draft him.
And he turns out to be good.
I heard that in the Zion draft, too.
True.
And now look.
His potential was high.
I told y'all the other day
that that's how they was touting Zion.
Y'all argue with me, but...
Let me throw this out there
before you continue. I don I want to interrupt you.
Part of why New Orleans is talking about trading Zion is because they are really high on Scoot Henderson,
who I've been talking about here for a while, who looks like a man child.
He good.
He's better than good.
He's good.
He's under Steph Curry's wing now.
There's footage out there of
him and Steph Curry practicing
threes. If he can get a shot. The word
is that he
absolutely killed his
his uh. Combine.
Whatever that was that they did. Yeah.
Like uh
step back threes.
Mid range. Like what we've been talking about about him, his jumper,
he went crazy on.
He's 18.
He's built like a linebacker.
He's faster than everybody and jumps higher than everybody.
Are we sure that Victor's ceiling is higher than Scoot's?
Yes.
I'm not.
Ceiling, yes. I am not. No, I... Ceiling, yeah.
I am not. No, I, Joe?
I am not.
You can't teach size.
Somebody that's 6'2".
That's some old NBA jargon shit.
No, it's not.
Listen.
You could be that tall
and not be the best.
Also, there's some perks
that come along
with being that tall,
as y'all mean.
I mean, not perks,
downsides that come along
with being that tall.
Feet, knees.
Yeah, come on.
He's just thick.
Yeah.
But I'm going to say this.
Scoot Henderson's you'll find before you find another Vic.
And I'm not ready to say that yet.
Here we go.
That's the difference.
And it's just those two.
I'm not ready to.
I'm not jumping on that wagon yet.
The kid from Alabama's tough.
I don't care about none of them.
The kid from Houston is tough.
They got some good people coming out of this draft.
All that shit is cool.
Scoot and Vic.
Nah.
All y'all other niggas is second fiddle and vibe second.
I know it's a deep draft.
It's a deep draft.
It's really a good draft.
I'm not trying to play nobody.
I know it's a deep draft.
But Victor, Scoot.
I don't be sold on it.
I don't be sold on it.
All right.
I'm not sold on it.
Watch the footage of Scoot against Victor.
Nah.
This shit don't matter.
We will revisit this We definitely will
Y'all have Victor
As a lock for rookie of the year
Uh
No
See I didn't say that
I said his upside
Is way more impressive
Than Scoot's
So if Scoot wins rookie of the year
That won't mean nothing to y'all
No then
You will be proven right
Nah I don't say that
Nah right
Cause y'all are arguing upside
That's one year
Sure
You're right
We'll see
Where Victor has the advantage Is San Antonio and Greg Popovich Yeah I don't want to say that. No, right? Because y'all are arguing outside. That's one year. Sure. You're right. We'll see.
Where Victor has the advantage is San Antonio and Greg Popovich.
Yeah.
Organization, culture, system, teaching.
All of that.
You get the wisdom of how to play basketball that go along with your physical attributes.
Which is why I wouldn't be surprised or shocked or whatever,
giving you the W if Scoot were to win because there's a chance that,
like, they won't play him down there if he's not ready, Vic.
Like, on a full-time suit, like, most of the game, all game.
Like, if you're not ready, you're not built.
They're going to play him.
He's getting played.
Pop, they team ain't that good.
And Pop calls the shots there.
Pop does what he want in San Antonio you feel them saying so he made that good but it's a made that bad they made that
they are middle of the road and his report and they got some good pieces and
his reports that already that Atlanta is looking to trade a dog to John take
really really that's quick yeah we'll see it might be a fire sale over there
we are the same thing about Trey Young, so we'll see.
I think that with this draft, it's about to be a lot of movement.
It's about to be a lot of trades.
I'm anxious to see.
I want to see what happens with Bradley Bill.
I can't wait.
I can't wait.
Can't wait to see it.
I like calling Bradley.
Everybody's calling Bradley.
They said Sacramento.
They said the Knicks.
We'll see.
We'll see. I can't wait. He make a lot of money, though. He does. He makes a lot'll see. We'll see.
I can't wait.
He make a lot of money though.
He does.
He makes a lot of money.
He deserve it.
Let's see where Dame end up in.
Let's see what's going on.
I got to see what the Knicks do.
Y'all got money too.
We got everything.
Y'all got some bread.
We got money.
We got draft picks.
We got tradable contracts.
We got everything.
Y'all got some money.
We ready to rock.
All right.
What else is going on?
Yo, the Melly trial.
The Melly trial.
The Melly trial.
I don't think they can kill that kid
based off all this circumstantial evidence.
They have all the evidence in the world
except for a motive and a weapon.
And an intent.
To prove murder, you got to have motive and intent.
They don't really have none of that.
No witness.
They got a lot of shit.
A song.
Like actual shit.
Well, listen, the song, and I don't want to say this because to me it makes matters worse.
They say the song came out before
the murders happened.
Oh. Okay.
That changes things. Look, more
circumstantial shit.
Huh. You get what I'm saying?
They are presenting a lot of circumstantial shit.
Hey, we got
him
DMing somebody the
day of the crime saying I did it
on Instagram
you read that
you be like
oh we got him
but
we niggas
she finally gave you
some pussy dog
I did it
right
who's to say it ain't that
right
prosecution tried to
introduce a whole bunch
of old snapchat
shit to speak to this man's character uh it's just a mess it's a lot of circumstances a bunch
of bullshit and you could be a piece of shit that i mean what i'm saying is even if you believe that
this dude did that the case that is being presented is you cannot.
This is a death penalty.
It's death penalty.
It's funny.
This is a death penalty case.
You cannot take that man.
You cannot take that kid's life based off these.
And again, he could be a dirt bag.
He could be a weasel.
None of that matters.
So when they start bringing the character shit in, it does play a part in.
Bruh. I think he gets a mistrial. in, it does play a part in, bruh.
I think you get some misdraft.
Yeah, I think you get a hung jury.
Yeah.
I think so.
Depending on who the jurors are.
Could you imagine that? The man.
Your life being in the hands of my lawyer,
the prosecution, the judge.
12 people that I don't know. I would be scared shitless. Scared to death. I've been scared for a lot less than that. my lawyer, the prosecution, the judge, the jury.
I would be scared shitless.
Scared to death.
I've been scared for a lot less than that.
He up there acting like it's a game.
He's blowing kisses to people.
Laughing and joking and shit.
Laughing and joking.
See, some of that shit,
this is what I said with the Tory shit.
Some of that shit just don't bode well.
Some of these younger guys,
I don't want to call them kids no more.
I think they be having like a detached sense of reality.
Like even the Josh shit.
Like fam, you not too big.
They could take this shit away from you.
And I don't think these kids think that that is a possibility.
You're right and I agree with you, but I was a lot dumber at the age too.
That's what makes it tough.
That's what makes it tough.
At 18, 19, I was real stupid too. I too. That's what makes it tough. That's what makes it tough. At 18, 19,
I didn't have what they had to lose.
I was real stupid too.
I was.
That's true.
Like even,
and I gave Josh some grace.
Y'all remember I came up here
and gave him grace?
And sometimes it's like,
yo dawg,
the fuck are you doing?
I just think you can't kill that kid.
Never.
Never, ever, ever.
I don't.
Never.
What else, what No. What else?
What else?
What else?
They say Boosie got arrested.
Do we know what his charges are?
No.
They said he was fighting a gun case.
That got dismissed.
And the feds were there to pick him up on something totally unrelated to that case.
He then put out a message to apologize to his kids telling his kids I love you then the
report came out that he's putting his Rolls Royce up for sale but that might have been an old old
post that might not be current so I don't want to speak to that but I don't know what he did I don't
know what the charges are I know it's the feds I know it's the feds yeah they didn't they didn't say what it is
thoughts and prayers
the feds yeah
he stay in the motherfucking mix
yeah he was arrested
by federal agents
outside the courthouse
as soon as his
it was his gun case hearing
wrapped
but it was also
in the same courthouse
as the Melly trial
correct?
yeah
and so he was
and so he was
attending that and then you know he put out a
tweet that he thinks he wants to start practicing law because he doesn't want all his black boys to
go down and that sort of thing um but the father of um Melly's victim was like just blasting Boosie
for even showing up Boosie's been really vocal
with regards to some of the evidence
that's being presented against Melly.
Like, yo, they got an eyewitness saying that
they saw somebody throw him out the car.
And he like, yo, if you wasn't in the car,
you couldn't see nobody throw him out the car.
Fuck, he could have jumped out the car.
Yeah. Oh, then Melly jumped out the car. Yeah.
Oh, then Melly's lawyer bodied it when, I guess, at one point,
he got the sheriff dude to say that where they said the bullet holes were
was a speculation by them that they concocted.
It wasn't precise.
Like, the defense lawyer is clearly doing a real good job.
We'll see what happens
with that.
Prayers to everybody and you don't want to be a dick
because somebody really did lose their life.
You know what I'm saying? Two people
lost their life so we don't want to be
insensitive to that
but you got to do your job.
I hope they give
that iPad
white lady murderer
The fucking life
Don't worry about it
iPad
See
See and this is what I mean
They don't be getting the coverage
This is what I mean
They don't get the coverage
This is what I mean
This is not the pod for it
You said nothing
Another pod I'll get to it
But
There's real shit going on
In the middle of the country.
I'm going to play this.
I didn't want to play it.
Oh, the woman that, I know exactly what you're talking about.
This woman walked up to her neighbor's house.
I'll let you go ahead.
A woman's children were playing.
I'll just play it.
I'll just play it.
Let me see here.
Funcast.
Please don't just watch me talk to each other this is a conversation thing right so the woman's
kids were outside playing and when the kids came back in they said that their
iPod their app their iPad was gone it was taken by like the neighbors kids
there are no words we are beyond this is the mother of the woman that died. Broken over your loss.
This is Whoopi Goldberg talking to the mother, Pamela Diaz. How are the grandkids? And what
can you tell us about what happened that day? I'm going to let this whole clip play because
it's important and needs to be heard. Listen to this. On Friday, June 2nd, the kids were
outside playing in an open field, a privately owned open field, as kids do.
My nine-year-old grandson forgot his tablet. He went back to retrieve it, and Susan Lawrence
was there to harass him. She called him racial slurs, said this is not the underground railroad. He's slave.
She threw a skate at him, broke his tablet.
So he did what any normal kid would do.
And he went home and told his mother.
My daughter, Ashika, and my nine-year-old grandson
went across the street to ask questions.
My grandson went across the street to ask questions.
She was met with a bullet through a locked metal door
with her nine year old son standing next to her. My 12 year old grandson had to make
the necessary calls for help.
So awful. I don't hear enough about this, Aldi.
I don't.
It's an emotional rollercoaster.
Devastating.
Then she continued,
and it really fucked me up.
I have four young grandchildren.
The two oldest boys,
they blame themselves.
Oh, why?
The nine-year-old feels as if
he hadn't left his tablet.
His mother would still be here.
Aw.
No, Joe Biden.
The 12-year-old, he couldn't do anything to save her.
He has already started trauma therapy.
Good.
That was recommended immediately for him.
I'm cutting it off before I cry.
I don't hear enough about this out there. This I cry. I don't hear enough about this.
This is disgusting.
I ain't know nothing about it.
It was, this was like about a week and a half ago.
It's black women who are murdered,
go missing, et cetera, et cetera.
These are stories that just do not make,
you know, big headlines.
They just don't.
That's the reality of the situation.
It takes Sean King or Amanda Seals or, you know, just activists who push the story up to the top for people to and don't allow anybody to ignore it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like in the case of Trump and his indictments, everybody just skated over the J.P. Morgan $290 million
payout to the victims.
There's stuff that makes it to the top
that we listen to
that's really just a fucking red herring.
It's a distraction
from what's really going on.
And this story is horrific.
The neighbor was a racist piece of shit.
I hope she gets the book thrown at her.
What state was this?
Florida.
No, because she's already claiming stand your ground.
She already is.
Miserable, just wrinkled, old testicle-looking motherfucker.
That one's not going to fly.
We'll see.
We'll see what happens.
She shot her through the door, and she died, like, very shortly after.
I would think there would have to actually
be a physical interaction
for there to be standard ground.
Yeah, that's not gonna fly.
No, you gotta feel threatened.
Yeah.
She's arguing.
She felt threatened by the fact
that the woman came to her door
and was on her property.
And she can make up a whole dialogue
about what the lady was saying
behind closed doors, potentially.
I don't know Florida's laws that well,
but... Florida is run by Governor DeSantis, so... Oh, we know who they're run by. I'm just. I don't know Florida's laws that well, but...
Florida is run by Governor DeSantis.
Oh, we know what they're run by.
I'm just saying I don't know what the laws are
that would determine if this is thick or not.
I swear to God.
Next thing we're going to turn around
and this woman's going to have like a fucking
$1 million GoFundMe defense fund.
I'm sure she's on this one.
It's probably already started.
I wouldn't be shocked.
Well, because there's two sides to a coin.
So again, you're going to always have those people.
I don't want to highlight those.
Fuck them.
They have their own platforms to highlight themselves.
I want to highlight these kids that lost their mom
and this woman that lost her fucking daughter.
Over an iPad.
And now got to raise these four kids.
And one of the kids happened to witness the murder
and was right there over a fucking iPad.
I want to highlight that portion of this.
Once we get into, once we get into,
listen, homeboy was just indicted.
Daniel, what's his name?
The train murderer.
What's his name?
Perry, Petty.
I forget.
Fuck him too.
Yeah, fuck him too, basically.
But yeah, he was just indicted for second degree murder.
Okay, but we still should have his name.
Daniel Penny.
Penny.
Daniel Penny, indicted.
That one is probably going to be a bit tougher.
That's going to be a bit tougher.
His dad has got resources and connections.
Yeah, that part would make it tough.
Well, and there's other witnesses that say,
all right, dude was bugging out.
So this is going to be open for interpretation.
I don't think that any civilian
should be able to fatally choke someone.
You can subdue me.
You can subdue him.
Yeah, but I don't think you should be able
to choke somebody to death.
I don't.
And if the police don't know
when to stop choking someone to death,
then how could you assume that a civilian does?
I don't like anything about that.
Hopefully justice is served in that case as well.
Rest in peace to the man that lost his life.
Jordan Neely.
Jordan Neely.
The kids from this case.
That really actually-
But indictment ain't enough.
Indictment ain't enough.
Yeah.
Indictment is not enough.
So hopefully we see more on that as well.
Word.
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
We have a guest.
Indeed.
We got a fucking guest I'm excited about too.
Same.
I know y'all know I hate guests.
I know y'all hate guests too.
Sometimes you got label relationships you got to keep.
Sometimes one of these little young niggas be promising so you gotta sometimes some of these little niggas is
hot so you gotta talk to them but we have a guest here oh i said it earlier that mike was coming
fucking talked about his album but now that he's here
ladies and gentlemen that ain't easy we have one half stay inspired of one of the greatest rap groups to ever live in the building stay down and they've been hard throughout
it's been a journey we have a man that is also a part of one of the best, if not the best, collectives in hip-hop history.
Correct.
We have a man here who should be regarded as one of the best MCs on the planet.
Hello, hello my niggas. Hello, hello my niggas.
We have Killer Mike in the building. Round of applause, Mike, please, please join us. Hello, hello my niggas, hello and hello my niggas Please keep it mellow my niggas, I'm a big y'all
I'm a big y'all, I'm a big y'all
I'm a big y'all, I'm a big y'all
I'm a big y'all, I'm a big y'all
I'm a big y'all, I'm a big y'all
My niggas don't listen, one thing I hate about my niggas
So I just pray about my niggas, niggas is wrong
Niggas be gave up on God, niggas are gave up on all
Maybe she angry, we worshiping, all these false idols
So devils just praying on her
This for the church and the feeling of loser
Praying that God is the back of a cruiser
I pray that prison can cure you
The bitch don't hurt you no more
Needed no reason but I'll let you know
I was so young when I stood in that store
And I did not know that the money you paid
Was meant for your babies and now they just broke
It was Jeff Bezos, my nigga
I am not vicious, my nigga
I had no vision, my nigga
I wanted Gucci and Fendi, my nigga Gucci's a bitch, my nigga But none of them crackers ain't vicious, my nigga I had no vision, my nigga I wanted Gucci and Fendi, my nigga Gucci's a bitch, my nigga
But none of them crackers, they love us, my nigga
All of them crackers, they fuck us, my nigga
Mad cuz they women in love with the guards
They fuck us and suck us and love us, my nigga
Back to the trap, back to the dickens and bucks
Lookin' like I drive a truck, fuckin' my bitch
She better be rich, she buy a new bag a week
Dog, she buy a new bag a week. A week. I feel that pain. I feel that pain.
And the price of them bags done went up.
They keep going up.
Once Chanel went up, everybody went up.
Now these bags is 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 20.
20 grand.
Now even if you got 20 grand, you got to be on the list to get the bag.
It's a lot going on.
But ladies and gentlemen, Killer Mike is in the fucking building, man.
I'm excited.
As you should be.
We excited.
We are honored to have you here.
We are very excited to speak to you.
I want to start with congrats. Thank you. I want to start with congrats.
Thank you.
I want to start with congrats.
New album, Michael, and everybody's phone right this second, earlier in the broadcast.
We spoke about it.
We played some songs.
I spoke to you yesterday, but I had not heard the album.
Yep.
And now I did.
Whew.
And now I heard it.
Yeah.
Different conversation today.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
What was wrong with you?
People don't just rap like that, Mike.
Oh, man.
I mean.
Move that mic a little closer, please.
It's been a journey.
It's been a 20-year journey.
And I say that proudly because a lot of times, you know,
in rap you get shamed, you know what I mean,
because of age or time or whatever.
But my favorite rapper, Scarface, to me, you know, since 1987, never dropped a whack record ever. you know what I mean, because of age or time or whatever. But my favorite rapper, Scarface, to me, you know, since 1987,
never dropped a whack record ever, you know what I mean?
So my thing is that's my ambition.
So I embrace it.
But, man, I just didn't want to die.
And people have not seen my truest potential, the greatest potential.
So I had to do it.
You know, I almost,
COVID laid me face down on my face.
Right after Run the Jewels Fort is about to drop,
we about to go on a world tour,
we about to kill it.
COVID happens,
but I go home and catch COVID
before they even name it.
My man, Butter, God bless his dad,
his father, Robert Senior, died.
I went to the funeral, I came home,
and I was on my face for two weeks,
in the bed, like, thinking, I'm gonna go.
And when I came out of that, I was just like, man, I got to I got to do something.
And you didn't catch COVID again after that.
I caught it one more time after that.
I caught a mild case.
It wasn't bad.
Yeah.
No, no.
It wasn't.
It wasn't after that.
But me and Cuz Lightyear was working.
Shouts out to Cuz who put his career on pause to A&R the album.
We was working on a mixtape, like a villain's tape.
That was crazy.
You know what I mean?
It was just, you know when you and your
raw rapping homeboy
get together,
y'all just say,
we just gonna go crazy.
I had these solo snippets
and records and freestyles
and he was like,
bro, it's just time.
Just go ahead
and let them know
and let's do it.
And I didn't want to go
without people knowing.
You know, it's like,
you get talked about
who your top five and tens,
you get your secondary tertiary arguments, and then you get talked about who your top five and tens you get your tertiary
your secondary tertiary arguments
and then you get your
slept on
I got fucked that slept on list
you feel slept on
you feel slept on
I was slept on
but do you feel slept on
you talk about Atlanta
you done named me
in the first five niggas
you sleeping
anybody you talk about
I done been on a record
with it went crazy.
Well, even a younger fan, do you give that to them too?
Man, motherfuckers, they had to wake up.
I woke them up.
Usually, I wake up by showing up whoever you like the most.
I'll get on a record with them and go fucking crazy.
And that's why we ain't fucking with you still.
And say, oh my God, Mike, I never would have.
Like a nigga called me this morning on the way up here.
Good nigga, man.
He called me. We on business next to each other. He He said man, you know, I never really listened to you
I say nigga, I know you know
But he saved my listening this three times already this morning
So I say it's just time, you know to to get off the I don't want to be on the underrated list
I don't want to be on an episode on song. I want my fucking oh, he was the one and
Anybody who the one
this morning waking up
reevaluating what the fuck
they did in the studio.
I was blown away.
You put work in there.
We all were.
You put work in.
You can hear it.
You can feel it.
This is not what
a lot of people do now
is just do what they do.
Status quo shit.
Yeah.
You put extra work.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And you got to.
You got to.
I agree.
Speaking of Stat Cole,
like Stat Cole is one of the best rappers
to come out of Atlanta, right?
And motherfuckers slept on him.
I always thought that was criminal.
Saha the Prince,
one of the best rappers to come out of Atlanta.
Criminals slept on him.
I'm just like, I'm not.
Motherfuckers not going to sleep on me.
Slow down.
Joe and Saha got things.
No, Saha is one of the best rappers.
Joe's one of the best rappers.
He's one of the best rappers.
Saha can rap.
This shit is like sports.
But what I'm telling him to stop, not because of the rapping ability. No, he's one of the best rappers. He's one of the best rappers. Cy can rap. But I'm telling him to stop,
not because of the rapping ability of the people he's named.
Yeah.
That's undeniable for me.
Stat Quo, it was,
you got to get in the right label situation
with people who understand you
and are willing to market what you do.
And I don't think Stat Quo fell.
He didn't get the right shot.
Like, Stat Quo put out,'t get the right shot like Stat Quo
Stat Quo put out
what are you
Grits Girls Raised
in the South
like they was trying
to market him
just differently
I mean they had me
do Adidas
they do that a lot
like Adidas won my record
it was an Outkast record
they didn't use
and Columbia was like
well we don't know
what to do with Killer Mike
so we just give them
you know
yeah but that's Outkast
we're going to encourage you
to do that
and I didn't know that
but that's what big companies do but you you gotta figure it out and same and same with
sign yeah right like you gotta be careful you in that good music system you you got kanye you got
all the support in the world but then when things get a little tricky like what can you lean on
that's why i'm bigging up gunner so much because thrust into this situation that he's in
with the world against him
and with seemingly no support
he showed up.
He showed up as his album today released
with yours is phenomenal.
It ain't as good as mine but it's love.
I didn't say that.
Hold up.
I didn't say that.
If phenomenal is his
Then what's the next word
Up for passing
I like you
I like Mike talking
That shit too
I don't think I ever heard it
Yeah there ain't no difference
Cause I haven't
And it's like
You stay humble
And you expect it to come
But it ain't gonna come
Until you slam dunk
On the motherfucker
Like God bless the dead
You know what I mean
A lot of motherfuckers
That died waiting
On the motherfucker
To acknowledge him
I can't wait on that
Like God bless him I fuck with God the Lord I never took A lot of motherfuckers that died waiting on the motherfucker to acknowledge them. I can't wait on that. Like, God bless him.
I fuck with God the Lord.
I never took his picture down
out of my shop.
He was one of the first people
to support his swag shop.
His love.
But that album don't compare to Michael.
No album that dropped today does.
That's a fact.
Michael's year.
I don't know if there's an album
this year that compares to yours.
I don't think so either.
I heard four songs
and I ain't gonna hold you.
My sister's dead one night.
She brought out her titties.
I was happy.
But ain't nothing comparing to Michael.
I love it.
And that's from the Girls of the Blue Flame.
So they jamming, Michael.
They hit me this morning.
What for you is the difference?
You said your A&R started as a mixtape.
Yeah. For you, what is the difference today between labeling something a mixtape versus album
versus EP?
How does that count against you against anything? I can't even say count for against I just know me and cuz
reached out ceiling we put together a phenomenal mixtape we had the samples we
had to we clear energy you know we had them clear we had to be you know it's
easy to clear samples today but when we win it got with no ID it's like it's like
this question it's like when you when you get to the point you like I did all I can do now
I got to go visit. I got to go visit Yoda. I got to go sit in the swamp with my
Dion what he what he showed us is that follow your instinct
Play with pros don't play with people who trying to get it to understand
Play with the people who gonna walk in the room get it understand and go that direction and take you further so when damo came in to play bass
damo heard the bass lines we had but damo said well quiet there and then he oh
the bass was and then don't don't chase every trend pick the people you running with and go
all the way through.
Aaron Allen Kane,
Hannibal Buress introduced us to her.
Once we heard her once,
we wanted to hear four, five times.
So when it was time to sing,
we called her.
We gonna let you tell us no,
but we gonna make the call.
Ty Dolla came in for one record.
He left and said, give me two.
You know, so when you playing with pros,
you play ball at a pro level.
So play and deal with
people who are dare i say better or have had more success you're gonna learn it's gonna tweak you
it's gonna sharpen your knife and that's what i did kill a mic most people can't get in touch
with other people most people can't find the people that's better than them or can help like
that like that's the thing i told you yesterday about even working, being able to work with no ID like that.
No ID, niggas call and say,
yo, I need you.
And he say,
get the fuck out my face.
No, no.
You can't talk to that niggas
on another planet somewhere.
So for you to even have access
to the people
that are on this project
and for them to be so willing
to give their best foot,
it speaks volumes.
Yeah, I've been blessed, man.
I've been, I've been blessed. But you you know what people say I got it out the mud
people say they want it they want to do on their own merit it's gonna take time
you're gonna suffer you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna bleed a little you're
gonna cry a lot but if you stay dedicated if you're a dog about it like
I heard nip I watched the whole interview when he say essentially what
he was it's just tenacious he wouldn't give up you know i remember when nip dropped that rap niggas i remember calling cuz
like oh cuz done went crazy like you know i mean i was like man he didn't finally found his stroke
you know what i mean and i think that i have understood i've become a better mc by being one
half of run the jewels because i developed a greater discipline. You know, after me and L did rap music, which was also 11 years ago, certified classic.
Talk about it.
Talk about it.
I could feel the shift.
I knew.
I knew I was as good as I ever thought I was and I was better than I could be.
I knew as one half of Run the Jewels that if I took the discipline that I saw L had
in terms of production and in terms of how he took writing. I knew if I used that, that I'd
be sharper. Going into this,
man, it wasn't hard. It was easy.
I'm shooting from half
court knowing the ball won't go in at this point.
As exciting as this is,
wait until y'all hear what we do on Michael
2 and 3 because it's going to be a trinity.
Wow. How far were you in the album
when you went to No I.D.?
About a year in. It took us about took us about two and a half years.
About a year in.
It was about a year in before we sat down.
And we was at Stakeholder.
It was just like, well, damn.
We done did everything we could do.
What do we do now?
And I had talked to Dion about it.
But he was like, when y'all ready.
He had sent us the beats.
We had sent them records.
He said, when y'all ready, come out here.
And about a quarter million dollars in,
I went out to L.A.
and I didn't tell my wife
I was going to spend
another quarter million dollars.
So,
she just seen
the account string.
Like,
nigga,
what the fuck is wrong with you?
You got another family
in Columbia or something?
I'm like,
no,
baby,
I got a dream.
I said,
you know,
I told,
I used the analogy of Noah.
I said,
God told me to build a boat,
you know,
and here we sit today.
And them planks cost?
Yeah.
And them planks cost?
Hammers and nails ain't cheap.
It's the good wood.
It's the good wood, baby.
Yep.
Damn.
And she received that from you.
Yeah.
I mean, I got to pay her back.
You know, white folk give me my money.
I got to put it back.
You know?
She going to make sure.
Yeah.
She don't play much.
She grew up in a project.
Her grandma ran a little house.
So she'll be in it.
No, you talk about your wife all the time. Yeah, I do. She so she'll be in it. No, you talk about your wife all the time.
Yeah, I do.
You don't play.
I believe in her.
You talk about your wife all the time.
That's fine.
I follow you on Instagram.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm sitting here super fan.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I appreciate that.
We fanned out a little bit.
I literally love how you talk about your wife on Instagram.
She is your queen.
It's easy when you tell the truth.
As she goes to the flying with me,
and you know what I mean,
she let me be a man,
and she encouraged that.
I love that about her.
You know, she ain't,
she don't let insecurity and ego rule her.
So I appreciate that.
You know what I mean?
Because I got a very beautiful wife.
And you know what I mean?
No surgeries needed, no extras.
You know, she do the shit I don't like.
You know, she do the eyelashes shit like that.
I'm blessing that she's confident in herself.
And so, you know, we do cool things together.
Can I have a, I just want to take another fan moment.
One of my favorite features ever that you've ever done is Kill Jill.
Oh, shit.
I was literally, I was blasting that in my car like two days ago.
It is one of my favorite songs.
And it's your feature that makes that song one of my favorites.
Thank you, man.
So quick story on that, because I just hung up with Big Boi, who, man, just
thank him for... Anytime Big's in the studio, I just run through and I just say, oh, this
is what you're rapping. I just drop verses into the beat. Big probably got a couple albums
on me. But my man, PK, Pretty Ken from the Addict Crew, the guys who discovered the Youngbloods,
PK calls me out of nowhere. He say, hey, fat boy. I said, what? He said, fat boy, I got
a record for you, man. I said, for real?
He said, yeah. He said, it's a hit.
He said, you just got to do this shit now.
So I pull up to the studio,
check it out. I'm just like, ooh,
shit, this shit nasty, man.
And then I say, damn,
I can't use it, though.
And he like, what? What the fuck?
I said, I'm in the Run the Jewels
We gotta get
Four Run the Jewels records
I knew it wasn't
A Run the Jewels record
So I said man
I gotta give it
I gotta give it
To one of my partners
And say a partner
I could tour with
And Big is constantly
On the road
So at this point
I'm still just like
Do whatever it takes
For you to keep
Stay on the road
So I take it to Big
I say look
I got a great record
For you man It's dope I got one request just let me stay first
you know I just let me stay first big as a pattern master him and guys like Wayne
missy Elliott they master patterns I was like I can't let this motherfucker get
in front of me he gonna come up with a pattern that's awesome let me stay and
be big did the record he put out as a single took me out on the road you know
and I still pop up with him.
So I appreciate it.
And I learned in that moment, you know, do what's best for what's best for you.
And Run the Jewels is best for me.
So I did what was best for my group by lending a solo record, by lending it to my mentor and giving it to him.
So I still get to be a part of the record.
But thank God I love that record.
You got some patterns, too, though, now that I think about it.
Yeah, yeah.
You're very inventive
as far as your flow
I'm one of the best
all around rappers
in terms of
if you hear me on a song
with Black Thought
and Pusha T
it's not gonna sound
like the same guy
that's on Kill Jill
it's not gonna sound
like Never Scared
not gonna sound like
you know the guy
that's popping up
on Run the Jewels
I pride myself on that
because Calriss One did that
Styles
you don't get ripped
oh no i ain't
come to lose yeah i ain't can you tell me about often often right you know i'm niggas be like man
i got this i got my nigga on this shit man it's not nigga i'm not i'm showing up to show out
no bullshit i often on this podcast speak about because because it's fans listening, so fans only acknowledge your finished product.
Yeah.
I often try to talk about the feeling as an MC
when one of them other goats come in
to do the same song.
Yeah.
And some of the pressure that comes with that,
what's he about to say?
What's he about to do?
What uncanny ability?
He about to showcase on my shit.
Can you speak to us and me in particular he about to say what's he about to do what uncanny ability he about to showcase on my shit can you
speak to us and me particularly about how it feels to know that three stacks is coming new three
stacks flute japan yeah that's my guy like how does that what comes with that how'd you sleep
the night before when did you know this was coming?
Man, when he came, I literally called him
just to say, man, come listen to the record,
because I care what him and Big Boi think.
They gave me an opportunity to change my life.
And so I'm never gonna, I tell people all the time,
I say, if we sit in a room and Big Boi say I'm thirsty,
I'm gonna go out and grab some water.
Like, that's me, that's my dog.
He gave me, I understand the order, that's my dog he gave me I understand the order you know that's my man um so it matters what he and Dre think about my music so big had
already gave me the thumbs up big had already gave me a great rate on stank
on you so spotted at 250 went to stank on you and when Drake was like yeah he's
I'll pull up and check it out he pulled up and checked it out and then before he
left he said you mind about back tomorrow and bring some records?
I'm just like,
you mind?
I'm just like, yeah.
I'm just like, yeah.
Bring that goddamn flute, nigga.
He came back and
Cuz said, I don't care
what he come back with, Cuz. We
using it.
I don't give a fuck. This nigga singing, doing carpools and foot. We using something. And I'm like, fuck you, I don't give a fuck
this nigga singing
or carpooling,
we using something.
And when he played it,
man,
he played that
and I'm just like,
the pattern was crazy,
the beat was,
and I was just like,
God damn,
like,
shit,
how I'm gonna rap
over this beat,
you know what I mean?
And that,
the challenge is less about
the other person
and more about
how do I make sure
I don't let down the work that's already happened.
You know, like I don't want to be
the stale piece of bread on the sandwich.
So after him and Future got on the div,
that's when I felt the pressure.
Because ain't nobody going to not like Dre and Future.
How does that collaboration come together?
It seems like an odd pairing at first.
If you don't know about Future's history.
Yeah, we're all Dungeon family.
So Dungeon family, they're oddities period.
They're like the Fantastic Four.
Nobody's alike and everybody's superheroes.
So when I heard when Dre hit Future and belloked him
and Future was on, then that's when I started biting my nails,
like, okay, Fatboy, what you going to do?
You know what I mean?
You got Dre with the super smooth, all the ladies that are esoteric and go to the MJQ, you know they going to do? You know what I mean? You got Dre with the super smooth, you know, all the ladies, all the ladies that are esoteric
and go,
you know,
to the MJQ,
you know they going to love Dre.
All the guys who wanted to be rappers
and master,
blaster,
caster rappers,
you know they going to love Dre.
Then Future come in
and it's just like,
man,
toxic lyricism.
You know what I mean?
Like,
you know Future going to kill it
and then I'm like,
okay,
fat boy,
what you going to do?
And I went in my,
hey man,
I'm an MC back. I boy, what you going to do? And I went in my, hey, man, I'm an MC bag.
I dropped.
I did six or seven verses before I loved what I did.
I liked a lot of the other shit.
You fucking right.
Talk about that.
Get comfortable with what you like.
Don't get comfortable with accepting good enough.
The devil is in comfort.
The devil lies in comfort.
Time you get comfortable enough, that's when the devil of
i lacked oh i let myself slip that day you know i'm saying and that's what the fuck happened and
i'm like the other verses literally i remember like even like cousin and my manager will me
cousin will look like a trifecta i have a manager who actually likes music that was like no that
was good i'm just like i call cousin next day like nah cuz that ain't it and then one day out
of nowhere the pattern just hit and I was like I got it I got it I knew I had that motherfucking
I knew I had it and when we went in and did it you got Dre and James Blake did his part you got
no ID doing future's part and then they called DJ Paulie and and they gave me the drum. And it was, come on, let me get the fuck out of here.
You have to relax right now.
You have to stop. I knew I was where I was supposed to be.
What are you talking about over there?
It's like the Justice League Super Friends shit y'all had going on over there.
I just want to play a little bit of this.
Because this is scary.
Communication coming in.
Too much that I can't communicate
With all of them
I do wish I had some
Yeah he started the verse like that
I'm going to Dunkin Donuts
Yeah
He started the verse like that
I'm going to Kroger's
Yeah
Stupid yo
Y'all not for real
I told him it sounded like
Aliens in the studio
You Dungeon Family niggas
Are crazy
Word up
It's an honor
My first phone call today
Was Rico Wade
So you know me and Rico
got a
I'm from
they're from
Southwest Atlanta
and I'm from
the west side of Atlanta
so the west side
me T.I.
you can see
our west side
has got a
little more
rough around the edges
sometimes
we use big words
but we a custom
motherfucker
out in the middle
of the street
you know
Southwest Atlantis
you know what I mean
they're a little
smoother and cooler
so over the years you know Rico and I have been on different sides of the street, you know. Southwest Atlantis, you know what I mean? They're a little smoother and cooler.
So over the years, you know, Rico and I have been on different sides of the street, not in a bad way, just like, no, I don't like that, Reek, you know what I mean?
And Keel, this is what you should do.
But man, I was honored to get a call from Reek this morning that just sounded excited
like, Keel, I'm proud of you, dog.
Like folks calling me.
My cousin, Mr. DJ calling, told me he went crazy.
His voice is the first voice you hear on that.
That's Rico doing, essentially serving as the voice of Atlanta through it.
But getting that call from Rico meant a lot to me.
And I want him to know that today.
Like, man, I got so much love, respect for him and Sleepy Brown and Ray Murray.
Ray was serving as a ghost, essentially, in the studio with me and cuz.
Ray will come in, roll his blunt and say, I like like what you're doing but that don't sound southern enough if you're gonna do it it needs
to be as cohesive as the chronic it needs to be as southern as anything we were doing in the 90s
balling g and then you just walk back out and me and cuz just in the goddamn room like
yo but you say that is exactly what i hear on your album. Yeah. That what you just described, like beautiful art.
But the MC in me was like, oh, man, it sounds frustrating to do, to execute.
This sounds like the greatest of the greats was in there saying, nah.
Not good enough yet.
Nope.
Put another beat switch.
Do it again.
Oh, man.
And I'm going to tell you.
Go harder.
I don't like the concept.
The honorable C note.
Write it better. The honorable C note. The fucking honorable C note. switch do it again oh man and i'm gonna tell you go harder i don't like the concept the honor ride
it better the honorable c note the fucking honorable c note my my fat boy brother who
dressed fresh and wear good cologne this motherfucker man i love him and he's a goddamn
asshole c belt will come in and literally just i mean i just thought i had did the most perfect
shit and just say you didn't say that right. What you mean I didn't say that right?
This one line.
I'm like, nigga, you just heard.
Nah, change that line.
And he be right.
You know what I'm saying?
So keep a team around you that wants to be excellent.
They don't want to be.
C-Note got that chubby kid chip on his shoulder too, like me.
Like, motherfucker, y'all going to see me.
You know what I mean?
And I just appreciate that. Because you need to be pushed you need to be driven if you get a foot somebody
need to say you could have got another inch or two out of it and um i'd never make records the
same again i'm hating you no i am i'm hating man and i could tell they have fun doing this shit
all the way through man all the way through i had so much fun we worked like a regular job we was working third shifts we go in at 10 at night
and we leave at four six in the morning we take the weekends off some mornings we say I mean some
nights we say fuck work just go to the blue flame get inspired but that's work we literally just
acted like guys working at UPS on the third shift. And it got more fun because the pressure was just on creating the dopest art.
It wasn't in, I have to meet a deadline, because it was coming out of my bank account.
You know, I didn't have, it wasn't in.
This is all indie, right?
Sorry to cut you off.
Yeah, it's all indie.
I partner with Loma Vista now, and they've been a great partnership.
Shout out to Tom and Ryan and, you know, Dart dart and Adam over there it's just it really the whole team
every the kids who work in digital over there are excited and it's good to be a
part of a partnership in which that excitement happened so yeah it started
just totally out of my pocket it was the it was the nigga it was the killer Mike
nigga fun and you know and it turned into this partnership well but I put you
know I put my money into it I put my money into it.
I put my time into it.
But I put my heart and soul into it.
And that's what made it fun.
It was me and my friend, Cuz, in the studio.
It was people like Ray Murray, Rico, C-Note,
following through.
It was getting Metro beats.
I remember him and C-Note working.
He just hit me out of nowhere with some encouragement.
Mike Will hit me out of nowhere just with some encouragement.
So I'm just like, man, you never
know what them positive words will do for folks.
You naming goats.
Yo, I was about to say, yo, you naming.
Yeah, he just called my phone.
Yeah, but even with Kool and Dre,
man, like I just, man, I've
known them since my first album. They was one of the last producers
on my first album. Had I met them before,
they might have did half the first album.
It took me over a decade to get back with them
and we get back with them
and we created magic.
You know what I'm saying?
So I just wanted to make
before I got out of here
a piece of art
that would give me,
I want 10 more years.
I want 15 more years
and this record starts that.
It's a reset.
But my wife woke up
and she said,
happy resurrection day.
You are born again.
This is a new thing.
You are not the same artist.
How is it doing the late night shit
with maintaining the family life?
Well, man, I got an interesting family.
They crazy.
My wife hang out with me.
She don't sit home and wait on me.
She don't hang in the studio as much,
but she might follow through. She might be on her way to the flame you know what I mean
okay so um you know my my daughter who's 25 now she's just never slept so she'll keep me in three
and more daddy what you doing you know what I'm saying I need some money you know I mean so it
was it was no different than every working man but I appreciated working those hours because it regrounded me
in terms of I needed to feel like a working man again. Like when you hear me say, you know,
I'm back to the dickies and bucks looking like I drive a truck, you know, that meant the world
to me because I needed to put myself in a mentality of be consistent, do the same thing
on a daily basis, and good is going to lead to greatness,
and the outcome is going to be great on the other side.
Discipline, my man Bear Loke tells me,
I've lost 47 pounds trying to lose 15 pounds.
Congratulations.
Bear Loke says to me, discipline brings joy,
and joy brings discipline.
And I'm not instinctively a disciplined person.
I don't like conformity. I don't, I'm not instinctively a disciplined person. I don't like conformity.
I don't like rules and shit.
But I can say the more I have set my own parameters and guidelines, the more joy-filled my life has become.
Tell us something about killing Mike outside of killing Mike.
Michael.
Who is, yeah.
No, not the album. Don't try it. Don't you try it. Don't you try it. Don't you try it. killing Mike outside of killing Mike? Michael? Who is, yeah, no,
not the album.
Don't try it.
Don't you try it.
Don't you try it.
Don't you try it.
It's all right there
in the album.
Tell me,
nah,
fuck that.
Tell me about Michael,
the person.
What is,
what does Michael enjoy
doing outside of music
if you have free time?
Collecting art and toys.
Oh yeah,
I do some art.
I nerded out
on your art here um
thank you i collect art i collect toys i take pictures of toy cars um you know friends with
the president of hot wheels that's like you build them no i used to do the model cars when i was a
kid you know i have two dads i have a bio and a non-bio dad and my non-bio dad's a toy collector
and stuff so he he's always in loud and encouraged that But yeah, I like toys
They get along?
Yeah, of course they do
They both love my mama
They better get along
That boy
My mama was a bad boy
I was about to say, she made it
But you know what?
I respect and admire those men
Because having grown up
I'm not willing to share my kids
We tried that experiment My youngest daughter Her mom got married and shit I was really cool with him and
shit tried to be all inclusive you know he was he was weird I like him a lot he was coached my
youngest son in football but he never just fell out of wind like we raising this little girl
together so when they got divorced I was like don't worry champ I got this you know what I'm
saying back back to just me and her because I don't I don't like to share like that but so I admire both my father's and
that my grandparents raised me they were both involved in my life and they were
always respectable and talked highly of each other they never talked down each
other they never put they never put each other down in front of me and there was
always you know my mama could be held but Lord knows they had to have patience
to deal with her so they loved her so much that they poured into me.
And I appreciate, you know, Anthony and Michael.
Thank y'all.
Y'all my guys.
Yesterday you spoke about, yesterday when we spoke, you spoke about your upbringing being very different from most rappers.
Yeah.
And so therefore your views coming in.
Can you speak to that again, please?
Yeah, I grew up, you know, in most most i didn't understand till i started talking nationally how unlike the rest of black people in this country my life has
been i grew up in atlanta georgia which you guys think start a lot of time popping with freak neat
or with with laface records um atlanta's had a black middle class and rich niggas to be honest 120 years they
have you know Alonzo Herndon Herman Russell John Wesley Dobbs you know I
could literally just name a litany of people that literally were the highest
of the high in America in terms of influences Vernon joint when you start
looking at even on the conservative side Herman Cain when you start looking at a
black child who's all his heroes and villains look like him.
If my grandparents were arguing over politics,
it wasn't all white folk won't let her have.
My great-grandfather was like, this nigga.
Got control of this budget, baby.
And my great-grandmother would be like,
well, I'm still going to vote Democrat.
And my great-grandfather was like, fuck them all.
You know what I mean?
I grew up in a world that felt fair
because my schools were black.
My teachers were black.
They went to black universities and colleges.
They expected nothing but excellence out of us.
I went to a school night for Frederick Douglass High School.
Put me on a pathway straight to Morehouse.
Didn't have three white teachers my whole life.
Didn't live under white rule my whole life.
You know, when our white folks got money in Atlanta, that's definitely capitalism and politics work hand in hand.
But they worked in a way that since
Maynard Jackson, Maynard Jackson said, hey, I'm mayor
of this city, you want to do business with this city, you got to have 29%
black participation and ownership.
All of a sudden, the bakery me and my
grandma used to go to, the lady that worked there became the 30%
owner of the bakery. You know what I'm saying?
So I'm like, oh shit, this is how
this works. So I just grew up
in a place where the possibilities for black children were endless.
Now, you understood that class was an issue.
I knew I didn't have the money, say, that Russell's had.
But I got the same education because I went to the same high school.
And I knew if I applied that education, I would be the first.
I would be the Herman Russell of my family.
You get what I'm saying?
That was my next question.
Are you, because you come from all of that,
are you breaking
any generational curses?
No, because I don't have
generational curses.
My great grandparents
were sharecroppers
that saved enough money.
I just got the deed
my aunt sent it to me.
1948,
they bought a 30-acre farm.
That farm is still in our family.
I don't say that
generational curse shit
because it'd be an insult
to my great grandmother and my great
grandfather that worked their ass off
to leave us something. Talk about it. So the
little $500 check that the lumber company
might send us in January, that ain't no curse.
I just split that little $500,
$125 per child, put it in the accounts.
That's not a curse. My grandparents, we
still own both the houses they own.
I just bought my daughter a house behind my
sister, so she lives in the same neighborhood I'm glad that I grew up in
I don't accept the curse because there is no curse there's opportunity you know
do have to do this fucked up shit happen absolutely oh yeah you should have said
it this way yeah yeah yeah and I don't you know I don't say God bless his soul
but I in terms of me and how I view my life, what I see is endless opportunity.
That does not mean I don't have challenges.
That does not mean that I haven't walked through some valleys.
But man, the peak of this mountain is beautiful, but I already see the next mountain.
And to get to the next one, I got to crawl back down another valley and then crawl back up.
You know, I returned.
I ran from religion.
crawl back up you know um I returned I ran from religion and I returned in a lot of ways spiritually to the lessons my grandmother wanted me to get young and when I studied characters
Jesus is one of the most amazing characters real or not whether you believe in terms of
revolutionary love he he told his homeboys I gotta go fast and pray man his boys like man
we we cooling we witch're Wichita.
And then they went to sleep.
They kicked it.
So he up here.
He by himself.
He hungry.
He in the desert.
And the devil pop up and say, man, what's up, man?
You ain't got to do this shit.
All these lame ass motherfucking folk.
They ain't really believe in you anyway.
They going to kill you.
Man, just let me give you the world. And he holds fast to the mission.
man, just let me give you the world. And he holds fast to the mission. And the mission is simply to be nailed to a cross on the behalf of sins that's not even committed. And the last person he chooses
to save is a self-confessed thief being killed next to him by the state. That is such a powerful
message. Dare I not have the faith to push through hard times. Why would I complain?
Why would I complain to God how much of an insult would that be to my grandmother who was educated in the deep?
Dirty rural South how much of an insult would that be to my grandfather? Who had to drop out of school in third grade to raise his sisters and help his mother by working in a sawmill?
What kind of disrespect would that be to my mother who graduated with me on her hip at the same high school
that I graduated from? They tried to push
her out, say, go have the baby and come back, and she
walked proud through the halls. I just don't have it in
me. And I'm not saying that
hard times ain't coming. I'm
not saying that hard times ain't going to beat you down,
but hard times will shape you and make you, man.
It take a fire to bend metal.
It takes steel to start from steel. So
I just don't accept
that hard times not supposed to come.
They gonna come. Has anybody ever told you
that you could, you know, you should
be a preacher? Don't do that.
I mean, I feel like
I'm looking at everybody. I'm saying preacher. I think you
should be my GPS voice.
I'm so ready to run
through a wall right now. Where's some white
folks at? Where are these white
New Yorkers? God damn it. I'm ready to to run through a wall right now. Where some white folks at? Where these white New Yorkers?
God damn it.
I'm ready to go.
Literally, I'm looking at everybody,
and everybody's just sitting here like nodding
and shaking their head.
You are a captivating, prolific, you are an orator.
Where you learn how to do that shit?
Big boy, who taught you how to talk like this?
Betty Clunt.
It's my grandmother.
My grandmother.
Who they call Miss Betty.
That's why the generation is fucked.
They ain't got grandparents no more.
They ain't got no big nana.
Miss Betty said.
They ain't got nana.
They ain't got nana no more.
They ain't got nana.
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They ain't got nana. They ain I was born, but she would say, boy, you anointed. And I'm like, mom, I don't want to, you know, I don't want to be anointed, mom.
I want to smoke weed on two blue flags.
And she said, and she would say to me, you can't run from God.
You can't run from it.
You can't keep running from God.
And I just, I didn't know what she meant, but I knew I was running.
I was like a prodigal son
I was just out in the world
You know I was out hanging man
I was rapping
And I remember my last conversation
We were on our way to Michael's
Michael was five years old
We were on our way to a black history event
They were doing at her pre-k
And her mom was married at the time
She said
My grandmother said
Why don't you
um why don't you let her husband adopt michael and i said what the fuck you talking i never
curse her what the fuck you talking about you say that to me and we went back and forth and i felt
like and i understand that that was her last test of me and um she said after our conversation did i hurt your feelings i said yeah and this is
how she never said these two words i'm sorry you she usually say i beg your pardon or if your
feelings hurt you know too bad but we were walking up a hill they wouldn't let us drive it here we
were walking up a hill and she looked at me and she looked past me and she saw something
i could see an eye she saw something she looked back at me and she smiled and she hug past me and she saw something. I could see in her eyes she saw something. She looked back
at me and she smiled and she hugged me and she left. Now, I have been fighting like hell to get
my career going. And after she left, it has never stopped. And that's when I understood it. Like,
she was in communion with God and she was right. Like, I have a purpose. I don't know what it is,
but I know God has a purpose for me. I'm on a journey I have a purpose. I don't know what it is, but I know God has a
purpose for me. I'm on a journey towards that purpose. And I don't know where the journey is
taking me, but I know I'm on one. So I had to accept that my grandmother was right. I can't,
I can't run from God. God has some purpose for my life. I'm not going to pretend to have all
the answers or no, but I know that I'm leading a purpose-filled life. And I wish I could call him.
You done made me go
to an Atlanta church.
Nah, that should be said.
You got a calling on your life.
You got a calling.
You be like,
yo, go ahead with that.
And what's crazy though
is I've heard it
and now you just have to accept
that God knows.
Mel, I think that Michael
is a great person to ask your little trap trick question that you tried to get me in some parts with earlier about black men and protecting black women.
Yeah.
So ABC is ABC primetime is going to air a special commemorating hip hop's 50 years.
Yeah.
Everybody's doing something for that.
As they should
and so i found myself in a round table with um angie martinez yes mc light yes june ambrose
yep um sherry bryant yep and lola brooke and it was it was fantastic that sounds like it was really
great the one question that angie you know kind of threw up in the air for anybody to answer and we all kind of found like we're at a little bit of a loss is how can men in this industry in hip-hop
help to support women full stop question or yeah yeah well let me let me first acknowledge Shanti
Daz who was my first product manager.
She went to my rival high school.
She's my big sister.
She's exited the music industry and now has Silence to Shame, which deals with people with mental health awareness, depression.
I was going to ask you about Shanti as well and the whole mental health.
Yes.
So my leader since I got in this has been a woman in terms of the person who helped me get acclimated.
Her and Kawan prather um kp
famous nr but i i don't know the biggest answer but on a on a fan level and on a child that grew
up in hip-hop my mom was listening to to hip-hop first with the curtis blows the houdini things
in nature but there's this there's this little girl. My mom would come up here doing illegal stuff.
There's a little girl she met at about 14, 15 years old, and her name was Roxanne Shante.
And Roxanne Shante was on her way to a boarding house up north, and she gave my mother a picture
of herself. Not a headshot, and she sent it back to me and she
signed a record and Shantae was the most badass motherfucker and as a kid like
you gotta think about it I love the fat boys I love Run DMC but this girl
Roxanne Shantae was just foot so she's one of my biggest inspirations and all
along the way Roxanne salt-and-N-Pepa, Latifah,
whether you start talking about
going out south, Gangsta Boo,
Trina, Choice, even Too Short,
who people would label
pimpish, misogynistic.
He had enough sense
to put girls on his records
to retort.
Luke and the 2 Live Crew
did the same thing.
I would argue hip-hop
as an art form,
whether it's the funky 4 plus 1
or forward,
hip-hop as an art form has whether it's the funky four plus one or forward, hip hop as an art form
has been more equitable to women than any other art form because we needed the balance.
There was always a retort record.
If I'm the baddest motherfucking nigga alive was the song, then I'm the baddest bitch alive
and that nigga serve me was the answer song.
And what I've seen in hip-hop is
we've always been ahead of the curve.
And now when I see all these women flourishing
in terms of the young women as artists,
I admire that.
But behind the scenes,
I've always seen companies packed
with dynamic, strong women.
If you was around Rockefeller,
you saw Emmanuel.
You know what I'm saying?
Now Emmanuel's leading video over at the Capitol somewhere.
If you were at LaFace, you saw Shanti.
And it wasn't just a one-off.
So I would say we always can do better.
We always can get another inch out of the yard.
But don't forget to congratulate ourselves.
Angie Martinez's name has held weight for over 30 years in this.
You know what I'm saying?
So for me, I just want,
sometimes we try to,
you know, my grandfather was telling me,
stay out of white folk business.
Sometimes we want to be so in white folk business
and it's like, you ain't white,
you're just a white man.
White folk business means corporate,
the money, the people control.
Sometimes they put out narratives
and we just run to be a part of the narrative. But women have been leading in hip-hop they are the lead of hip-hop is i don't know who
is the lead but i know that in terms from an organizational standpoint who helped put the
parties together who are the promoters who were the and then when you get down to the artists
who was badder than roxanne i tell you when she dropped nobody who the fuck was gonna talk shit
to latifah right nobody you know who was gonna try Trina
at her height
who else could've
talked shit
back to Trina
so for me
we have
as an art form
been better
at it
and we should
congratulate ourselves
while pushing
to be more
you know
that's what I think
I got five sisters too
so I know when
to shut the fuck up
you gonna be my
publicist
nah
Mike gonna be my publicist man shouts Mike is going to be my publicist.
Man,
shout out to you
and my boy Sleep,
who I know since I said it.
Y'all got the,
Sleep,
you reminded me of Sleep right now
with the sound of the toes.
I like you, Joe.
I fuck with Sleep.
I'm going to sleep with you next time.
You on some player shit, man.
Listen,
when you stopped me in that airport,
that meant a lot to me.
Oh, man,
thank you, bro.
That meant a lot to me.
You was sick as a dog.
I was nervous about even stopping you,
you know what I mean? But I really, man, you was always kind. That meant a lot to me. You was sick as a dog. I was nervous about even stopping you, you know what I mean?
But I really, man, you was always kind and gracious.
I appreciate you.
No, I always bumped into the best rappers in the world in the airport.
Yeah.
Never in talking about my career, but in the airport, it's like, oh, shit.
You're getting money now.
You're moving around.
On the way from Heathrow.
No, I was bad.
I was bad.
I was bad.
I wasn't my best self.
I was in a bad mood, bad everything. If I was in the airport moving around, I hated it. No, I was bad. I was bad. I was bad. I wasn't in, I wasn't my best self. I was in a bad mood,
bad everything.
If I was in the airport
moving around,
I hated it.
Yeah.
I hated it.
I hated having to get
on a plane,
travel,
make some money,
hosting,
all of this.
I hated all of it.
Back then?
Yeah,
when I was in the midst of it.
It beats you up, man.
People don't,
like,
people don't understand
that part of it.
Like,
I couldn't have done
Michael moving around.
Like,
like,
like,
like,
what the old folks say? God
will set you still.
I talked to the
Dalai Lama before he was asking my boys
to suck his tongue. I talked to the Dalai Lama
in person.
I'm not with that shit. I did it on Zoom.
Holler at that nigga on Zoom.
You ain't spoken to him since that, right?
Nah, I don't fuck with a nigga if you do that.
That was kind of crazy.
God bless you, my nigga. Hope you put it together. I don't fuck with a nigga after you do that. That was kind of crazy. God bless you, my nigga.
Hope you put it together.
I can't fuck with that, my nigga.
No, sir.
No, sir.
But I asked him for advice,
you know,
on how to put ego aside
of people just to get along.
And he said,
you have to put your ego
to the side of your thoughts
and just come in the room
with love.
And essentially,
that was the same thing
my grandmother had told me
my whole life.
And that's when I realized, nigga, God has blessed you to live with the wisdom you're seeking.
So just find it.
So my grandmother tell me stuff like, God has set you still.
Or when it's raining, be still when the Lord is working.
I've learned that essentially that's meditation.
Essentially that's prayer and looking in.
A lot of y'all folk who paying, again, the white folk, y'all paying these big corporations for books and stuff and learning, meditating, retreats.
Go listen to Reverend Knight.
Go to YouTube.
Pull up Reverend Knight and listen to what he tells you about God being in you and something divine in you.
That old good-ass motherfucker was on his issue.
You know, my grandfather didn't fuck with him, so I tried not to fuck with him.
My grandmama were right on that one, Granddaddy. She was right, man. I had a point, man. My mother didn't fuck with him, so I tried not to fuck with him. My grandmama were right on that one, Granddaddy.
She was right, man. I had a
point, man. My mother ain't fuck with him either.
What do you say to, because I know you be
on your activist political
party shoes, running around with Bernie Sanders.
Yeah. Oh, man.
Shout to Bernie. Tell me, give me
some early predictions on what
this next election is going to look like.
I have no national predictions.
I would say people should watch Cornel West for what he's saying.
And people should watch the Kennedy that's running for what they're saying.
Because they're going to say things that are off the map or off the grid.
But they're going to spark you to think.
And you should be trying to follow people who're going to spark you to think and you should be trying to follow
people who are going to make you think
you're still probably going to end up voting
Democrat or Republican
because those are the mafia families
those are the oligarchs
but I would listen to the people
shouting dissent from the sidelines
that are acclimated
so I'd listen to Cornell
and I'd listen to the
I think it's Ted Kennedy
I'd listen to the Kennedy I listened to the, to, um, I think it's Ted Kennedy. I listened to the Kennedy.
Um, I listened because they are saying stuff that, that is not the status quo, but it's
relevant.
And, um, you know, like Kennedy, um, literally had some NOI members hit me up, just say,
Hey, I want to talk to you guys about vaccines.
You know, he knew we probably just wouldn't listen to some white guy calling so so what's the deal vaccines
and I'm not saying I'm pro or against any that was just that I didn't know the
vaccines affected black boys in the way they did you know higher higher rates of
autism studies hadn't been fully done and I think it's important and when
people say well shut the fuck up my great-grandfather's father was used in a
Tuskegee experiment
So you can't you can't tell me what not to listen to because your family hasn't been harmed by the United States government
In the same way mine is you know I mean so I'm listening to everything and everyone
But I'm listening to the people who are shouting dissent from the sidelines now what I would
Encourage people to do is get off the national soap opera soapbox of who's going to win and Trump's going to take us into and Biden's going to.
And who is your city council? The local, the local, hyper local, though.
Who is your city council person? Who is your police commissioner? Who is the chief that your mayor appoints?
What is your mayor's policy on affordable housing? You know, those are the things that matter because those are the things that are taught to
you and i didn't i didn't learn this you know in a political science class in high school or college
i learned this because my grandmother who was 54 i mean 54 when i was 10 she was the person taking
my ass to city council means and i gotta sit there i'm listening to her and her friends talk
complain about the sanitation route until it gets fixed.
And if the mayor didn't add the city council didn't work, she walked right across the hall and sit in the goddamn mayor's office.
So the mayor's came out. Yeah. And it's just like, God, I'm going to get an answer.
Two kids got hit right here. We need to stop some.
And they're going to poly till they get to stop.
So that is how political change happens.
And I'll give you a perfect example.
Chief Judge Asha Jackson is in DeKalb County.
Asha's been my friend
since we were 11 years old.
Asha was damn near homeless
her last two years
of high school.
But she was so determined,
she pushed all of us
to put in our college
applications to go to school.
She went to Buffalo,
went to school,
got a degree,
came back home,
studied law,
is now Chief Judge
in DeKalb County.
She got tired of seeing
people's life be ruined over bullshit, studied law, is now chief judge in DeKalb County. She got tired of seeing people's life be ruined
over bullshit, first offense, you fucked it up.
She said, this is what I'm going to do.
I'm going to create a program where I'm going to give you
one year to straighten your shit up.
If after one year you haven't straightened your shit up,
then I'm going to send your ass to jail.
But if you straighten your shit up,
we're going to wipe that clean.
We're going to get you your diplomas.
We're going to get you on an opportunity to improve. That system works so well that our now
Republican governor appointed a Democratic woman named Ms. Ali from juvenile court over that
program to be statewide, to end recidivism. So a Democratic judge gives a prototype for something
that will work in a county, and a county known to nailing your ass to the wall to the county didn't play.
That prototype graduates kids that that would have been.
And that just wants to teach us young people that have made mistakes.
That program is now being emulated by another black woman.
And that person was appointed by a Republican governor who happens to be a white man.
Politics is not the Dallas Cowboys versus the Washington Redskins or the Commanders.
Politics is in being pragmatic about my approach.
What will help?
Who can I ally with?
All your allies ain't your friends, and all your friends ain't going to be your allies.
But if you start hyperlocally like Chief Judge Asha Jackson did, it can go statewide when
mandated by a governor that we have in now to another black woman who's now taking that statewide.
And that's what I mean about do it hyper locally and watch it grow.
Whatever solutions are going to come are not going to come from the top down.
The top is too busy worried about the top.
You know what I mean?
And it's going to take something for the base to fix it.
When you say we have free breakfast programs in public schools,
you know why we have free breakfast programs?
Because the Black Panthers
freed kids for free.
And it embarrassed the government.
The government said,
if these Negroes keep feeding these children,
they're not going to listen to us.
So we better feed them.
Stay hyper-local
and watch how the world changes.
Speaking of feeding,
speaking of feeding,
we got to go hunting.
Yeah, we do.
I haven't been in some years
since my wife won't let me go
with my white friends.
I got invited by some of my white friends
and I won't go either.
We're going to get a committee.
We're going to get a committee
of like eight black guys, right?
And then we're going to get
with eight our white homies
and then we're going to go.
We're going to go.
It's going to be like a mix,
like a desegregation Boy Scout crew. We on it. We on it. I and then we're going to go. We're going to go. It's going to be like a mixed, like a desegregation Boy Scout crew.
We on it.
We on it.
I know.
I definitely want to go.
Have you cooked things that you cooked before?
Well, I'm a real traditionalist.
I'm going to kill it.
I'm going to catch it, but I ain't going to cook it.
That's my wife.
She's a good cook.
Can I ask what you've hunted and killed before?
Mainly deer, because they overpopulate in the South.
So when you're young, your uncle will take you on a deer hunt.
Hogs.
Not wild hogs, but we slaughtered.
They overpopulate in the South.
Imagine how they feel about y'all.
Yeah, wild hogs.
They overpopulate.
Wild hogs are pivot.
When I was younger, rabbit.
But whatever the thing is, whatever you kill, you got to eat.
So I didn't want to kill no squirrels.
Is that like a rule? Yeah, whatever. If you kill it, you got to eat. So I didn't want to kill no squirrels. Is that like a rule?
Yeah.
If you kill it, you got to eat it.
You should.
Because why'd you kill it? That's what they all do.
Why'd you kill it?
Otherwise, you're just sadistic.
Some people hunt for, you know, a trophy, but I've always considered that.
I don't believe in it.
Got it.
Got it.
That's right.
Have you seen any of these headlines running around about Sukiyama and the young man, YK Osiris?
I saw it come on.
Do you believe he should be charged for sexual harassment?
Since Mel wanted to pretty the question up with all that MC Light shit.
I want to get to it.
I don't know if he should be charged for sexual harassment.
I know he needs to be educated
on no meaning no.
And I think that
in this new age of men and women,
we're going to have to figure out
how to educate.
Our grandparents had to court one another.
You didn't get to just be alone
with the girl you liked.
Mother sit right here in the middle
when y'all sat on the couch.
Chaperone.
There's a famous scene in The Godfather when Michael, when he marries the Italian girl,
when he's courting her, he's walking, and then you see all her moms and aunts walking behind her.
So we're out of that, and we're in the post-edit.
So now it's just like, you know, you got to understand what's pretend.
You know, I understand he's a fun-loving kid, but I don't think he understands that just like
Wacky Osiris is a creation of your imagination, Sukiyama is an extension of her imagination. You know, I understand he's a fun loving kid, but I don't think he understands that just like why K.O.
Cyrus is a creation of your imagination.
Sukiyama is an extension of her imagination.
She's still a woman.
And once a woman says no, if a dancer says don't touch me, don't fucking touch it.
You know, and with that said, you also know when you're involved in entertainment, those lines are going to be blurred and people are going to get it fucked up.
And it can be a teaching moment.
That's the grace.
You know, that's the grace.
That right there is the grace.
That's what Meek was trying to speak to,
but he can't speak to it.
But Meek be having good intentions.
Yeah, no, no, no.
He be trying to speak to it,
but that's the part.
When you're dealing with entertainment, good and TV yeah no no he's trying to speak to it but that's yeah part when
you deal him with entertainment be ready for misunderstandings and blurred line
yeah yeah and I'm gonna refer to my teachers and it's not excusing him
either no no I'm not excusing anything I'm saying I'm just saying no we have to
or we don't have to but I would like for us to show each other some grace because
nobody else does no nobody's gonna show each other some grace because nobody else does.
No, nobody's going to show that black man grace.
And nobody, to be frank, is going to show that black woman grace.
You know, they're going to use them against each other in some capacity.
They're going to pit them against each other.
But just like the dancers in the flame have taught me since I've been trying to sneak in there.
Me, I'm going to go to the flame with your ass.
Yeah, absolutely.
Nah, dead ass.
Yeah, yeah.
But a lot of them were women, and they taught us young,
hey, hey, if I say don't touch me, baby, don't touch me now.
I'm dancing for you.
Now, this is what you do when you're 16.
Yes, sir.
Because your little hands dirty.
Yes, sir.
You want to put them places they're not supposed to be.
They ain't wash your nails.
You get what I'm saying?
Can't clean your nails out.
Yeah, yeah.
So we learned the hard way.
We just didn't learn on camera.
But I would invite people to just start having honest conversations.
You know what I'm saying?
To like talk to your big cousins who girls who attractive and say, hey, man, what's this like?
What's what's player?
Because what we've lost is player.
We don't have players no more.
Yes, sir.
We don't have players.
They're not keeping it P.
That shit he did wasn't P.
A player.
At all.
And after the first one
A player would've said
Oh shit my bad
My bad
I ain't no baby
I was just trying to
You know what I mean
But I got it confused
You can learn something
From everybody
Look at our pimps
It ain't pimps on the street
No more
But when we were young
In Atlanta
Pimp culture
PSC
Pimp culture was big
And our skating rink
Was right down
Metropolitan
So you got You got the Purple Onion And Club Nickies Across the street You got our skating rink was right down metropolitan so you got you got the purple onion and club nickies across the
street you got the skating rink here and then on off days the skating rink was
literally just a whorehouse it was just Cadillacs and girls and you get to watch
but you will see a pimp approach a woman and her fuse say what shit I'm just
trying to get you but he never gonna touch her he's not gonna grab her arm
and say come talk to me Like some of y'all
Country motherfuckers
When the girls
Walking down the strip on Miami
Keep your fucking hands to yourself
If she interested
She gonna choose
And when she chews up
It's gonna be better
Than you trying to force
You know that gorilla pimp shit
And that non-player shit
It's just
It's not player
So
Go talk to your uncles
Who seem to be cool
But more than that
Talk to your cousins
Your auntie
Talk to your mama And that way You will. But more than that, talk to your cousins, your auntie. Talk to your mama.
And that way you will learn how to be a player, man, about shit.
And you won't take it personal if she tell you no or she don't want to touch you and shit like that, you know.
She's doing the same thing you're doing.
She's just playing a character, making sure her bag is there for her at the end of the day, you know.
But I hope that they both, you know, I hope that he gets some grace out of this and learns and matures up.
You know, I hope Sukiyama much
success to her because, you know, they own her too.
They say she danced on a 10-year-old
boy. They want to charge her.
And I'm just like, hey. Yeah, yeah.
I'm just, man, I thank God my mama friend danced on me
at 10. Shit. Thank you.
Thank you, Big Booty Cutie.
Thank you.
You didn't have to worry. But why? Why? Tell the audience why.
Well, I didn't know how to dance.
And my mommy taught me how to dance.
But you can only get so with your mommy.
And then her friends say, your mama said, but you put your hair.
Like this is what my mom said.
My mom said, you put your hair on her waist.
You hold her like this.
And you know what I'm saying?
But her friend said, but if she likes you likes you she's gonna do this to your hand
and that's how I knew
she liked me because she put my hand on her plate
not her friend but the girl
I was dancing with at school her friend
gave me the extra
my oldest son mama cursed me
the fuck out when I had some
little young things dance with my son
the dad's apparently
not supposed to do it
that's what I'm saying, yo.
It's a fucking double standard going.
I was trying to teach the vibe.
It's a vibe.
We teaching.
She didn't get that.
Hey, listen.
She didn't get that.
I remember calling my son, Pony, God of Age.
I said, hey, man, you want to go to the, you want me to take you to the flame?
You want to?
Man, this little cool nigga was already in club Blaze.
He was like, I'm at Blaze with my friend.
He was like, really, daddy?
This shit kind of lame.
I was like, for real?
Like, you already played.
His big brother, whose mom is more in the church,
was a little more square.
You know what I'm saying?
His big brother, I still ain't took to the flame.
I'm like, this nigga lose his mind.
I don't want to destroy my son's soul.
You know what I mean?
But I got to take him when I go home.
Got to.
He just broke up.
He broke up and he got back with his girl.
So I said, I need to go.
I need to go show him the only cure for breaking up with your girl is another girl in some capacity.
So they back together, though, thankfully.
I might just take both of them to the front.
There you go.
Sound like you in support of the reunion.
Yeah, no, I like them together.
But you can't keep breaking up with me now.
I'm still a man.
Like, you break up.
You got one or two times to break up with me.
That third breakup then, baby,
you know I'm a dog off the leash.
Yeah, I ain't gonna keep coming back big
and playing no goddamn R&B song.
Because I'm me.
I'm still him.
I'm still me, baby.
Somebody want me.
If you don't,
maybe a couple.
Maybe a couple.
Maybe a couple.
You listen to R&B?
Look, look,
yeah, I listen to R&B.
You can't tell.
I got Jagged Edge on the album. No, that's can't tell. I got Jagged Edge on the album.
No, that's,
I love when people
put Jagged Edge on the album.
Come on, man.
Honestly,
Sahai,
you,
like,
when I see that,
I'm like,
come on, man.
Y'all know what you're doing.
Come on.
Good, good.
And that track is hard,
yo.
It's crazy.
About teenage life,
fell in love with a teenager,
lived like a dope boy
for two summers,
got a girl pregnant,
had to have an abortion and learned that poverty was stronger than love because, you know,
she was in the projects and she was trying to get out.
She ended up getting pregnant by marrying an older nigga boy.
He talking now.
What?
Poverty is stronger than love.
Absolutely.
That's a far.
Absolutely.
I wish I'd have known that.
I thought love conquers all.
It doesn't.
It doesn't.
It doesn't. It doesn't. it don't it doesn't it don't
45 percent of these yeah you better have a you better marry love with a jaw word yeah you
still a man like that's one thing i do love about being southerner there are certain traditional
lines that are just what they are like you know i don't care how much you love me baby you know you
you got to you know you got to work now i still got to buy that goddamn purse
You know you got to work now.
I still got to buy that goddamn purse.
Yeah, that's different up here.
That's different.
That's what Zion was doing, yo.
He was trying to help him.
You know what I mean?
That's what Zion was doing.
He better not bring his country ass up to New York.
Zion bring his ass to New York. They going to milk that bank account dry.
They going to milk that boy.
It's a lot of regular girls out there
That'll love you boy
They'll love you in a group
You ain't got no go for nobody
Who already famous too man
Just
You know
They not a fan of that regular girl
Yeah
Well you should be
Cause the regular girls
That's the prize man
Oh they not a fan of that at all
That's the prize
That's the prize
They wilder too
Especially if like that
Like Catholic girls
And you know what about That regular girls
It's tougher to find them now
Nah
Nah I know
It ain't hard
You just gotta go
The way they at for real
Well now I'm talking about
The kids that won't
They won't go outside
Okay
And with the internet era
These gamers
They stuck in their room
It's dim
Everybody gotta go to Target
Everybody gotta go
To the grocery stores
That's where you really
Need to target
The public grocery stores.
Home Depot.
Y'all speaking from privilege.
Y'all speaking from privilege.
Y'all are speaking from privilege.
The people I'm talking about,
Home Depot and Target,
is 90 minutes away.
You know, Shaq goes, though.
You know what?
Shaq still pops up,
and Tyler Perry go to Walmart.
So nigga can't tell me
I'm going to go to Walmart or Target.
Target is the lit.
I'm going to tell you, too. Target. I be walking to Walmart everywhere in the can't tell me I don't want to go to Walmart or Target. Target is the lit. I'm going to tell you too.
Target.
I be walking
to Target and Walmart
everywhere in the United States.
I be walking to Target
with Shay
and she be like,
look to your left
and we look to the left
and it be like
ass on ass on
and again,
my wife top tier
but I be like,
God damn.
But it's still nice
to look at some ass
with your wife.
It's nice to look
at some ass with your wife.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.
Look, look, look.
Greg Clark.
He be like.
I collect toy cars, so I be in the toy section.
So I be doing little niggas named mamas.
What's up, little niggas?
What's up, little niggas?
What's up, little niggas?
Come here, little nigga.
Come here, little nigga.
You want a car, little nigga?
You want a car, nigga?
Tell your mama, come over here and pick your car, little nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
Mom, when I start V-cutting shit, she be reaching. You be like, little nigga you know what i'm saying mom when some v
cutting shit she be reaching you'd be like yeah you know what i'm saying and then your wife said
call your name i can't ask you how you feel about tricking i think i think i think that that that
that needs to i think that there's a place for it all they wouldn't say prostitution is the oldest
job right in the oldest profession like you you never it costs women are valuable and they
understand they value a lot earlier so whether you do the long-term plan which
is a married a long-term girlfriend or you do the short-term plan like you know
you rent a buy a boat you know I'm pro I'm pro whatever work for you you know
everybody don't have game they not cool they're not gonna be able to talk every
girl ain't gonna like you so shit negotiate the price get it done and get it over with and that's cool
pure prostitution or if you got somebody you're sugar daddy and for i don't have no problem with
work what i have a problem with is force don't force no woman to do no she don't want to
do and and and that so don't put your hands on them that rape and taking to my thing the
community should deal With you immediately
But in terms of
Man you an OG
You want to buy some pussy
Buy some pussy
You know what I mean
That's it
You know how many niggas
Won't join the school
Because they mama had a friend
So you know what I mean
I can't trip over
I can't trip over
Your mama having no friend
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yeah
niggas think
niggas think
video vixens
niggas think strippers
niggas think sex
nah nigga
your mama
your mother
yes
your mother
yeah
all of them
who your mama was
before you met her
yeah
you met her
as your mama
talk about it
your daddy met that wild freak
off the chain.
Talk about it now.
He was just because she loved him.
You know what I mean?
A lot of your brothers and sisters
got swallowed.
You made it.
You know what I mean?
That's a blessing.
That is the blessing.
Chris Rock said,
everybody's mama been a hoe
for somebody.
For somebody.
Listen, I say all the time.
I recently have it.
Neil deGrasse Tyson,
that clip changed my life.
He said, yo,
when you just think about the amount of babies that didn't make it.
And you made it.
You beat the odds already.
The lottery, nigga.
Yes.
It's like hitting the lottery.
I used to tell people that all the time.
Man, you can complain about your life.
I got generational curses.
My life was the worstest.
Nigga, you made it to be born.
Yeah, nigga, you made it.
Talk to your mother about the secret abortion. Yeah, yeah, you made it. Talk to your mother about the secret abortion.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, talk to your parents.
Oh, man.
Get to it.
Yeah.
So, you know, hey, man, it's a lot of people need Jordans out there, man.
So, you know.
Especially in New York and New Jersey.
It's high as cost of living.
I'm going to tell you, I'm in New York.
Wherever New York dudes go, y'all fuck up the market.
Y'all overpay for pussy.
See?
Y'all some over pussy
paying ass motherfuckers, man.
Y'all done fucked up
the Dominican Republic.
Y'all tried to fuck up Atlanta,
but Atlanta's like,
no, nigga, $40, baby.
$40.
Oh, man.
Y'all like,
New York just went crazy, man.
Yeah, yo, New York. New York, New York just went crazy, man. Yeah, yo, New York.
New York and my Nigerian scoundrel partners.
Y'all for the fall of 60.
It's dumb.
It's dumb.
It's not.
Them Nigerians and them African niggas.
Nah, the African niggas.
New Yorkers, yo.
Yeah, I was New York first, though.
Y'all.
Y'all playing niggas with these max contracts,
fucking it up for the regular niggas.
Them boy, them boy, we're paying.
But hey, thank you for the joys,
Mr. Stanley.
Mr. Stanley,
yo,
tell you.
When I get mature enough
to pick out a mentor,
will you mentor me?
Word.
No,
no bullshit.
Will you mentor me?
I'm going to get your phone out.
I want to talk to you more.
I would like to talk
to Joe Boyd more
than I did.
I want to text you more.
I won't be annoying.
I promise I won't be annoying.
Nah,
just hit me.
I'll fuck with you, Joe. It easy. I don't come to Atlanta because I ain't be annoying. I promise I won't be annoying. Nah, man, just hit me. I'll fuck with you, Joe.
It easy.
I don't come to Atlanta
because I ain't got too many niggas.
Well, I got a thing about
where y'all could just carry
your gun around wherever.
I do have a thing about that.
Well, I mean, Joe,
we are in a nation
where we own the 13th
percent of the population.
Only 40 million people,
300 million people
in this country.
You'd be, you know,
you'd be, it's not smart
not to be trained and armed.
It's not smart. You know, I live in Atlanta, but know, you'd be, it's not, it's not smart not to be trained and armed. It's not smart.
You know, I live in Atlanta, but Atlanta's in Georgia.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I come to Atlanta a lot.
Yeah.
I would like for you to mentor me as well.
Wait, I don't want.
Let us hang out.
Wait, why are you fucking mentor riding?
She need him.
Get you because you'll get your ass back with MC Lyte.
Get your ass with Angie and them.
No, she need them.
She need them.
She need them, yo.
Come on now.
I don't want that to sound like I'm not in support of gun rights.
I am in support of gun rights.
But when I hear stories like what happened with Chaka,
I love you, Chaka.
Chaka's out to Chaka.
That stuff scares me.
But the main thing.
In New York, they so strict with that stuff
where you can go in a building and it's a little safe to assume.
Yeah, but I challenge that on New York because I see a lot of white boys up here with guns.
Like, no, that's true.
Let's see what you do.
I want to financial check.
We fired a few years ago.
She had just helped a white boyfriend.
He is going to go.
This thing I know he's not a CEO.
He's not a ceo he's not a policeman so i honestly think in the northeast in particular
whatever liberal white people run politics black people are being shorted i'm gonna tell you that
when it comes to your rights because the new york gun law says you can't have a long rifle right
but i bet you on long island they're ak-47s i bet you they're shotguns i bet you ar-15s
because if you get it to your house it it's legal. It's just a transport.
So who stands the greater chance of being stopped in transport?
Us.
That's true.
Us.
That's all.
So that's what I'm saying.
So for me, I'm a strict constitutionalist in matters of what are promised in terms.
Thanks to Ms. Ellison.
Peg-legged teacher.
She had an amputated leg.
But she was mean as shit.
She flunked my mama.
She threatened to flunk me.
But she made me love our Bill of Rights and Constitutions
and understand that as it's written, ask for it that way.
Because that means everybody gets it the same.
It's a shame for me that there are more roadblocks in my neighborhood
than in Elle's neighborhood.
See, L ain't going to get no roadblocks driving out in his neighborhood. L ain't going to get
stopped. So L going to get his shotgun. When I stop, when I get stopped, I'm going to have to
tell the officer where actually I hunt. I'm going to have to give him a goddamn story. What I love
about Georgia is they just, hey, you got a gun. Ain't nothing wrong. Thanks for letting me know.
Here's your ticket. Have a good evening. I get nervous once I get north of the Mason-Dixie because I know there's guns in the room.
It's just not on me.
Fuck that.
Respect.
Respect.
No, it's just, but I'm coming out there.
I want you to come out, man.
Come get me.
I'm coming.
We going to Flame.
We going to the, I'm going to take you to the High Museum.
I'm on the board of the High.
The High has these nights Where they play music
And they drink
And kind of kick it
It's a
It's a
You know
It's a white institution
Of course
But it's 54%
Of the people who go there
Look like us
They have
A cool night
So I want you to come
That's the shit with Atlanta
That's the shit with Atlanta
And D.C.
When you go to Atlanta
You'll get black excellence
more than most places in the country.
And when people think black excellence,
though, they think like the biggest Jay-Z rappers.
No, I ain't talking about no rappers.
But what I'm talking about-
I'm talking about black excellence.
The nigga who worked for the city
making 70 bands,
he got a $300,000 house,
he got an old school,
he got a new car,
his wife good.
That, to me, that's excellence.
That's excellence, that's excellent because
they children getting a good education.
They going to fertilize the next generation.
That's it for me. Tyler Perry,
man, got an old Confederate.
Come on, man.
It don't happen in no other place.
Atlanta and D.C., yo.
It's a book, though, I want y'all to get called
The Devil You Know by Charles
Blow.
Fifty four percent of all African-Americans live in the South.
So Atlanta can be replicated. Birmingham, Montgomery, Charlotte, Columbia, Jacksonville, Savannah, Macon, Tampa.
We have a lot of other places because Atlanta didn't just happen. It was plotted out. You know, John Wesley Dobbs was around in the 40s and 50s.
His grandson in the 70s becomes mayor. His grandson mandates a certain amount of city
contracts. That creates a bigger millionaire class, a bigger upper class that creates a
bigger middle class and working class. We can replicate this in other places,
but we have to go forth knowing that this is the plan. And Atlanta is not the best in terms of it's not perfect.
I think it's the best amongst us, but it's not perfect.
But just like we're trying to create a more perfect union with this country, I believe that there are cities throughout the South with the economic potential to give us a more perfect version of what Atlanta is.
Let me ask you a question.
Do you think that because I have the same argument, but I always group Atlanta with
D.C.
And I attribute that level of success because Atlanta and D.C. have more colleges, especially
black institutions, than most places in the country.
So when people go to school, you go to the closest metropolis to get jobs.
That's Atlanta for y'all.
You understand what I'm saying?
Just in Atlanta, y'all got Clark, y'all got Morehouse, Spellman,
all of these black institutions.
Morris Brown as well.
So in D.C., you got Morgan, you got Coppin, you got Howard,
you got Del State.
Don't forget Hampton over in Virginia.
Yeah, all of that stuff.
So they go straight to D.C., which is the biggest metropolis to get jobs.
So you see the black families.
How do you think that that could be replicated without,
and I'm not shooting at nobody that didn't get a college education,
but that is definitely one of the catalysts. Most of the HBCUs are in the South.
Exactly. But not as prevalent as Atlanta got. It doesn't have to be as prevalent in Atlanta. It just has to be there to be relevant. You just have to look at FAMU. Tallahassee ain't a big town.
to be there to be relevant.
You just have to look at FAMU.
Tallahassee ain't a big town.
Tallahassee got Florida State and Tallahassee got FAMU.
So what you do is you take your ass to FAMU.
You do the best you can.
You get off campus.
You go communicate.
Get cool with the people at Florida State.
Especially get cool with the athletes
so they can marry somebody
that look like their mama.
Get your black ass off that Florida State campus.
Get over to FAMU campus.
Go have some relations with somebody that look like you
Because what I don't want to happen is when you're generational
Wealthy and after you die
Nigga I want it to come back to the community in some capacity
But I believe
I have a good friend that went to Hampton
She is
She is a person
It actually got me hooked up with my stylist so thank you for that
They both went to Hampton
They're DC kids right. kids, right?
But they're D.C. kids that understood
that the world wasn't D.C.,
so they got out and seen more of the world,
but they used the competence and the confidence
to walk in rooms with their head up,
already assured I'm good enough.
So you can go get a job in D.C., you can go get a job in DC, you can go get a job in Atlanta,
but beyond the job, the fact that you know you can start business, the fact that you know you
can start consulting, the fact that you know you can land somewhere else and recreate on a micro
level what you grew up in, that's the more powerful thing. Because Atlanta wasn't always Atlanta.
Atlanta at one point, black people were not the majority there.
We were significant enough numbers to grow, but the numbers grow.
The neighborhood I grew up in was an all white neighborhood at first.
Black people say, we ain't going to fight white folks that live next to them.
We're going to offer everybody a 30% markup on their house.
We're going to push them further out.
And the Collier Heights was created.
People say, for real?
I never thought that.
I say, man, our next door neighborhood
is named Dixie Hills.
You think a bunch of niggas
would have named their neighborhood Dixie Hills?
You know what I mean?
So I'm just telling black folks,
it don't happen in one quick stroke.
It may take some time,
but have the confidence
that you're competent enough to do it.
So whether you go to Howard or Hampton,
whether you go to Clark or Morehouse,
just know that whether you root,
set your roots there and grow it there, or you take it somewhere else, it's needed.
You know, Tuskegee is this big.
Literally, Tuskegee, the town of Tuskegee is this big.
Only hotel in the town.
Shit, it's probably still on the college campus.
But look how Tuskegee has affected the world.
You know, and that's what I want us to understand, that we need you growing up in positive black places.
And it doesn't have
to be college we need trade school you think about tuskegee the kids that built the buildings they
built the bricks they made the bricks themselves so tuskegee was as good as teaching you how to be
a brick mason or carpenter as it was to teach you how to be a high tradesman like a doctor or an
engineer and i think that we need to start paying attention to trades Our children need to know how to build houses
and skyscrapers because I don't give a fuck
how many robots get made. Somebody's
going to have to know the trade of
how to wire that motherfucker up.
You're right.
Congratulations to Georgia Youth Build.
They are a
Georgia Youth Build and Next Level Academy
are two organizations I support.
Next Level Boys Academy,
ran by Gary Davis,
is conflict resolution.
It is getting boys together who are on a road to criminality,
getting them redirected and out of the court system.
Georgia Youth Build is one of my favorites because it takes kids from 14 to 24,
gets them their high school diplomas and GEDs,
and then gives them a trade, partners them with a union, and then gets them union wage jobs.
And they graduate today.
I was supposed to be doing a commencement ceremony,
but I said, fuck them kids.
I'm with Joe Brady.
No, no, no.
No, I love them.
But I love them, though.
I appreciate it.
I love those kids.
They doing their thing.
And just the more I hear him speak, and I'm done. I'm it. I love those kids. They doing their thing. And it's just,
the more I hear him speak,
and I'm done.
I'm done talking to this nigga.
But the more I hear him speak,
I'm so blown away that he never took
Killer off his name.
I tried.
I tried.
I tried.
I'm surprised somebody
didn't make you do that, yo.
I tried.
I tried.
I tried.
I mean, first of all,
I earned the name Killer.
I didn't wake up. You know, a nine-year-old Mike.
Man, Melissa, I wanted to be Handsome Mike.
When Kim Walton kissed me on my fucking cheek in third grade,
and I think my mom had like a lame-ass Jerry curl
on some of my hair.
She was just like, you cute.
And I was like, bitch, I'm the shit.
You know what I mean?
I would have been Handsome Mike.
But Double D, they used to throw
these things
called green lights
like battles in Atlanta
and man,
my partners didn't come
and these lame ass niggas
was in there
and they knew
my partners didn't come
and they was just
talking shit
and so I battled
them motherfuckers.
I slayed them
and Double D was like,
man,
this kid's a killer.
He shut the,
Double D was like,
cock diesel.
He was,
I was like,
everybody shut the fuck up.
He was like,
this kid's a killer
and ever since I came back, no one ever called me Mike. Yeah, it was just Killer Mike. like cock diesel he was i was like everybody shut the fuck up like he's like this kid's a killer and
ever since i came back no one ever called me mike mike oh yeah it was just killer mike killer mike
so when i went in i was proud that i earned the name when i went and i became killer mike being
like that shit hallway and then they got to columbia and it was like well we want you to
change your name and i'm just like no i'm not fucking changing you know what i'm saying and um
that was one of the beefs Me and Rico had At first like
Rico was like
You need to change your name
Like kill Mike
M-I-C
Because what Rico understood
Is that it was going
To be a burden
And he was trying
To save me from that
Like a big bro's supposed to do
And I was like
Nah
You know stubborn
Little motherfucker
And the next five years
It was tough
It was tough as a motherfucker
But right when I was
Ready to break
I said man I'll just give you Mike Bigger And I called my girl Shay Bigger Shay Bigger stuck Everybody was like It was tough. It was tough as a motherfucker. But right when I was ready to break,
I said, man, I'll just give you Mike Bigger.
And I called my girl Shea Bigger.
Shea Bigger stuck.
Everybody was like, man, I want to hear.
I thought Mike Bigger was dope as fuck.
I'm a big bigger.
My name.
I'd like it too.
Yeah.
Mike Bigger.
That's a hard rap name.
I thought so too.
Man, Jason DeMarco, who introduced me to L and underwrote rap music.
He got Turner Broadcast.
He got Cartoon Network to pay
for one of the hardest rap albums ever.
He said, bro,
just call yourself Killer Mike
and I got the budget for you.
And I'm just like,
let's get it, white folks.
You built too much equity
out of this Killer Mike.
And then it was just
no turning the back.
And then once people,
and I really got a lot of respect
for the OG.
I haven't been out on the trail with him in a while, but I have a lot of love and respect for Bernie Sanders.
I can tell.
You know, the OG, man, he had some badass black motherfuckers working for him.
Like Tess and Figaro, who's now on The Breakfast Club, is just a badass black woman.
Like if Tupac had a wife, it would have been her.
Like real shit.
She was tough as nails
and I admired that
because he got challenged on me
a couple times
and he stood with me.
You know what I'm saying?
On the Killer Mike shit,
he stood with me
against the bullshit
Hillary's campaign
tried with me.
You know what I'm saying?
And I just,
I fuck with the OG for that, man.
And like my granddaddy, we used to say too, man, keep some good white folks on your side. Oh, you know what I'm saying? And I just, I fuck with the OG for that, man. You know, and like my granddaddy,
we used to say too, man, keep some good
white folks on your side.
So shout out to the OG, man.
Thank you, man.
Keep some good white folks on your side.
Yeah, all that pro-black power shit is cool,
but keep reviewing
the talk, like the big joker.
Shout out
to Denver, they did a thing, man.
Yes, they did.
Yes, they did.
Oh, man.
You hear him up there?
I told y'all I didn't want to go to parade,
but now I'm happy parade.
Fuck that.
Fuck that.
I'm just saying, fuck that.
Mike.
Oh, man.
Yes, sir.
I want to thank you. Thank you. I want to thank you for this album, this project. Thank you. Fuck that. Mike. Oh, man. Yes, sir. I want to thank you.
Thank you.
I want to thank you for this album, this project.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Tell Dion, I'm going to get him one day.
I'm going to save my money.
I'm going to find him.
Man, we'll just go hang out in LA with him.
Just go to the studio and just sit around.
Yo, you know the thing about him, too, though?
Anytime I got around him, he's just such a prolific guy.
Yeah.
I didn't want to make music.
I just wanted to
listen to the day yeah he a ghost like he really is like a he like mr glass he kind of pop in
and fade out and then he'll say one thing and then just leave but the thing i had you thinking all
night but people like him i think need to be ghosts these people in the public think i'm blunt
oh no no no no no no yeah yeah you don't want to talk to D-Land. They think I'm blunt.
Yeah, yeah.
They think, yeah,
but he going to give it to you
and he going to set it down.
He not even going to sit around
and argue with you about it.
He just not saying to walk out.
I'm out.
Yeah, this is it.
And leave you with the shit.
He like, damn.
I remember me and Cubs were like,
damn, man, how you do this?
How we get?
And he looked down and said,
y'all just got learn to walk work with pros
and walked out and i was like but it radically changed the way i looked at everything like if
you got potential that's fine but i'm too old to bet on potential yeah yeah yep let's get pros
let's get you know what i mean Talk about it god damn it
That's all man
Like that potential shit
I get to understand
The beautiful women
After beautiful women
The clouds start to get
Oh yeah nigga
That potential
You gonna be a rapper one day
Yeah my nigga
I be wishing luck on that
My nigga
Yeah I'm gonna go fuck
With the pros
You know what I mean
So
Yeah
Oh man
No idea if you hear this
I love you
Love you
Mike
I love this album
Thank you so much though I love you I Mike. I love this album. Thank you so much, though.
I love you.
I'm getting your number.
We're going to talk more.
Yeah, yeah.
Absolutely, man.
Call me anytime.
When you come to Atlanta,
any of y'all,
y'all come to Atlanta.
I'm coming out there in August.
Right before my birthday,
I'm coming out there.
The podcast, I think,
is canceled that day,
whatever.
You a Leo?
I'm a Virgo.
You a Virgo?
I'm a Virgo.
So you're like my man T.
I think two times a Virgo, too.
Okay. Virgos run this shit, but that's for another time. I'm coming out there for a Virgo I'm a Virgo So you like my man T I think two times A Virgo too Virgo's run this shit
But that's for another time
I'm coming out there
For my fantasy draft
Gotcha
I told Ray Daniels
I was gonna fuck with him
Out there
Shout out to Ray
There's some people out there
I gotta get with
Yeah
But I'm getting with you
I got you bro
Please just let me know
Flame
Please let me know
Beyond the flame
We gonna do a bunch of cool shit
The flame is black on
We gonna do the museum shit
Take you to some restaurants
I love to get you out of swag shop And Mike told me he gave me the hookup if I want
to Atlanta property yeah absolutely I want to ride sales Atlanta if y'all on
Instagram my brother G man is is an amazing realtor and um he just he comes
from Augusta he came to Atlanta itself and just figured it out and y'all will
love him so he really gets the nuance of people
who are moving to the city
and he can help you
be comfortable
good good thank you
and shout out to Andrea too
who's also one of our
realtors who's amazing
he's good with names
he made me want to
get better with names
I'm trying to
it was something I had
to learn
of course
I'm memory bad
I smoke a lot of dust
I ain't smoking dust
they ain't have no dust
in their land
they ain't have no dust
niggas was snort dust.
They won't smoke it though.
But I was just smoking a little weed.
I wasn't doing nothing.
Yeah, that's it.
Ladies and gentlemen, man, clap it up.
Clap it up for Mike, man.
Alba Michael in your phones right this very second.
Thank you.
I'm going to be playing some more of this shit.
Y'all should do the same.
I encourage y'all.
And totally outside of music just this image and
rap fuck the music for a second just this conversation and rap this this is what this is
we need it we need it and and more of it way more come on and if you want to converse with me and
you came me on tv man just stop by one of the swag shops i'd be in my own barbershops. Come by, get a cut. We'll chop it up.
We do the barbershop arguments. We ain't filming
nothing, so you can say all the ridiculous shit
you want to. Nobody gonna judge you.
And we got some cool products coming out, too.
So for all y'all guys with beards and, you know,
the curly-haired white guys, I got
dope shampoo for you, my brother.
No doubt. I appreciate you.
I got dope shampoo for you.
My brother. Oh, man. Oh you. My brother. Oh, man.
Oh, man.
That is Killer Mike.
Round of applause, man.
I love that.
That was awesome.
I love it.
That was amazing.
I could speak to him.
All day.
I could listen to him talk all day.
Yeah.
Yeah, I ain't even got to speak to him.
I could just listen to him.
Shit, we got sleepers?
We over three hours. Yeah. Funcast. Funcast. I can just listen to him. Shit, we got sleepers?
We over three hours.
Funcast!
Add a killer mic to the Funcast.
Come on, man. Who has more fun than this?
Clap it up.
Clap.
No.
I'm going to fuck off, man.
I swear to God.
All right, all that rappity rap shit was cool.
I'm back to R&B. I'm playing some R&B.
I'm playing Maida, Fuck Your Friend.
I never got it. Uh-oh, wait a minute You should've crossed me
I used to be nice
Now I'm the bad guy
Baby, honestly
I've had feelings from the beginning
Here we go
You've been giving me the eye
Boy, I should have fucked your friend
Wait a minute
Just to get back at you
For all the times you made me mad
Mad, mad, mad Mad, mad, mad
Mad, mad, mad
I should smoke all your weed
Just because
No, I should have fucked your friend
Truth is I don't hate you
And that's what kills me
I feel sorry for the next one to date you Truth is I don't hate you And that's what kills me
I feel sorry for the next one to date ya I'm up drinking late nights
I'm up drinking late nights Now I'm the one to play nice
Play nice
Though it won't make me feel better
I just cut up your favorite sweater
And I'm still with you, I feel untrue
I'm just here to get payback from you
I'm doing all this petty shit
But I should have fucked your friend No, no, no, no, no, no Go back It's brand new music from Mayda
That record is called Fuck Your Friend
Available right now
It's from her brand new project
When I Hear Your Name
Just came out last week or two weeks ago if I'm remembering it correctly.
That album is fire.
Shout out to her.
I'm going to go to Chicago.
This is Femme Dot 2003.
Hey.
Yo. Hey. Look. Hey. Look. Hey, ha ha ha, yo, ay, look, ay, look Who rocks the party, who rocks the mic, me
Who is the nicest MC, it's FD
We was pulling bad things at 16
At 26 we hit some off TV
She hit my line of fuck, we don't speak
If you not tryna run it up, we won't link
They said I was him in 03 Them boys cool, they not us, they not we
We don't post where we at till we leave Can't catch me like not that, can't tweak
But bro will put a nigga to sleep for free I know some foes, some moes, and I know some
G's My lil' bros put up foes for Latif
20k in R-dubs, things I seen
I'm talkin' this was pre-PPP
Picture me not gettin' to a shit
In 06, I was sellin' burnt CDs
Told my OG I was gon' get it for the family
Thought I was gon' get a Grammy off the Camry
I brought the heat with me
like 06 in Miami who rocks the party who rocks the mic me who is the nicest MC is FD we was pulling
bad things at 16 at 26 we hit some off TV she hit my line of fuck we don't speak if you're not
trying to run it up we won't. They said I was him in 03
Boys cool. They not us. They not we it go
That's 2003 fem dot that was hard
All right, Keanu lady, what's up? What's up? Yeah, I don't even know that girl. That's my sleeper
No, I've never even heard her before. Wait, I'm playing her.
I'm playing her later.
I played her before.
I did, nigga.
Shut up.
It's she and Bryson Tiller.
Song is called Gone.
Yeah, but hype us up more.
Hype us up so we want to feel it like you feel it.
This guy.
Funcast!
Hey! Hey, go! Funcast! Ayy!
It go!
Ayy!
Ayy! It's all gone Said we would say goodbye
Think it's about that time This shit is cutting too deep
Can't handle too many strings Starting to pull out the bad in me
No love, no touch Something in between us And it's so good until it's gone So we can't tell what page we on
We got no choice but to move on It'll be so good until it's gone
Getting so tired of trips And now we all at a trip
Either we ride or we die
We can't keep living this way
Now wait for something to change
How we so close, we're so far away
No love, no touch
Something got between us
Now it's too much
Keep coming back to it over and over again
Run out of love till we don't have enough
Even though it's all bad, baby, I'm not trippin' Tellin' all the business, mine is five chime in it
Why your friends givin' you the high five? Let me tell my side with it, girl, I tried but I'm not trippin', tellin' all the business, mine ain't five chime in it Why your friends givin' you the high five?
Let me tell my side with it, girl, I tried but I'm finished
Mouth wide full of grime, I'm a hygienist
I lost, I'm tryna starve, but at what cost?
Boss, won't let me take no more days off
Till my debt is paid off
And so I'm in here tryna let the pain off
Tryin' not to sound bitter, the thing is
Sufferin' in pain, came with her, so I'm livin' with a stain
I'm witchin', though you feel like it's a given
But it ain't, like pearlescent paint
should be switching in the rain girl let the tears drain strange how you think
they giving you my name is feeding my ego put you on this plane let me get you
out of heat though taking you to Spain now we here without the S not feeling our
best blessings to the kids yeah they keep us in a mesh I feel like we related
you my blood you my flesh man ain't no telling where we at
now that we headed separate ways when the jet when I leave girl please only in the jet
gone
that's gone Keanu Lade and Bryson Tiller
uh so Doja Cat has a new single that was released today it's called attention
that's my sleeper okay So Doja Cat has a new single that was released today. It's called Attention.
That's my sleeper.
Okay. Baby, if you like it, just reach out and play it This one doesn't bite it, doesn't get aggressive
Show you how to touch it, hold it like it's precious
It don't need your lovin', it just needs attention
It needs, it needs affection
I'm hungry, it needs attention
It needs, it feeds attention
It needs, it sees affection
I'm hungry, it feeds
Look at me, look at me, you lookin'?
My taste good but I just had to redirect my cookin'
I could've been an opener, I redirect the bookin'
I read all the comments sayin' D, I'm really shooketh D, you need to see a therapist, is you looking?
Yes, the one I got, they really are the best
Now I feel like I can see you bitches, it's the press
I am not afraid to finally say shit with my chest
Lost a little weight, but I ain't never lost a tushy
Looking good, but now my bald head match my
Looking good, but now they all saying that I'm ugly
Boo hoo, my nigga, I ain't sad, you don't fuck me
I'm sad that you really thought your ass was above me
You're lucky, cause I just paid your bill with a reply
I just made your money pile knee high
I just made your stacks peak, now you got a blue check
Now you can afford to go and reinstall the new rig
Now you can afford to not be lousy, go and do shit
Talk your shit about me, I can easily just prove it
It's stupid, you follow me
But you don't really care about the music
Baby, if you like it
Just reach out and play it
This one doesn't bite it
Doesn't get aggressive
Show you how to touch it
Hold it like it's precious
It don't need your loving, it just needs attention
Love me
It needs, it needs affection
So sweet
I'm hungry, it needs attention
Love me
It needs, it needs affection
I'm free, it leads
Look at me, look at me
I'm naked
Vulnerability earned me a lot of bacon
I put a thong all in my ass and taught you how to shake it
I paid all my respect to those who taught me how to make it
And now I reap the benefits with no confrontation
Y'all fell in the beef but that's another conversation
I'm sorry but we all find it really entertaining
Cause we all wanna see them slipping forehead on their faces
And we all wanna be the one to see the devastation
I be in it
But ain't the bad press good?
The disrespect's real
How does protect look?
Pull out the checkbook
Now why your neck quick?
I never learned a superstar from a textbook. Talking bout she falling off while she get booked.
Man, I been humble, I'm tired of all the deprecation. Just let me flex, bruh. Just let me pop shit.
Why she think she Nicki M? She think she hot shit.
I never gave a F. Go stir the pot, bitch. I got your head all in the dirt just like a ostrich.
Of course you bitches comparing Do, Doja, to who the hottest
Maybe if you like
That's Attention by Doja Cat
Alright, Doja
She was getting bars off
Alright, Doja
I hear what you're trying to take
The culture this time
I ain't mad at it
I like all the sleepers today
Shout out to y'all
Again, shout out to our guests
Killer Mike
Michael Beautiful beautiful beautiful day smooth weekend hope everybody out there has a
really good weekend hope y'all in good spirits good moves good vibes
keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there until the next time
it probably went over your head Went over for head
Lord knows we need to be there until the next time
I bid you adieu, farewell, adios, arriba, dirt
Y'all still a beast, au revoir, so long, goodbye
Life is a series of moments and moments pass
So let's be grateful, show some gratitude
Love your neighbors, kiss your neighbors
We blessed, we here grateful show some gratitude love your neighbors kiss your neighbors not a should be looking like we bless we hear
until the next time but I swear remember the baddies are insecure the stagnant
women want to travel in the clothes minded women want you to teach them
things and the women that hate you want you to protect them. Grab you a Tylenol. You might need it. Hold it down out
there. Ice flip. I'll see y'all next week. Enjoy your extended vacations, you fucks. Like damn,
I need to call. Shout out to the ladies rolling around in their jeans out there.
Perfect in my arms No matter what they say
Everything is the same
Got that lesson
Got that
The way you move
Get it back
Get it back
Get it back
Get it back
Get it back Get it back Hope y'all had fun this weekend, man I wanna thank Savon for stopping by We love and appreciate him
Gang, gang, gang
Shout out to Alex
Alex, Alex
You due for a visit too, yo
We love you, we miss you
Bring your ass up here, goddammit
And happy Father's Day
Happy Father's Day
Happy Father's Day to all dads out there Happy Father's Day. And happy Father's Day to all the dads out there.
Happy Father's Day-ish, early.
I know I won't speak to you.
We don't talk no more.
But happy Father's Day.
Happy Father's Day, gentlemen.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Why ain't they thanking me, nigga?
I did say thank you.
I didn't hear it.
You had the music up, asshole.
Happy Father's Day, sir.
Yeah.
Yo, everybody, enjoy their weekend. Hey, happy Juneteenth, happy Juneteenth.
Hey!
I'm gonna go let them coast us out. It's 47, it's cool.
We'll live That body perfect in my eyes
I'm not a woman, see everything looking just fine
You got that blessing in your eyes
You don't wanna go alone
And I'm
And I'm
And I'm
And I'm
And I'm
Funnest podcast in the world, man
You niggas can't out-fun us out there.
What the fuck they talking about?
What the fuck they talking about?
JVP, JVP, where would you be without the JVP?
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
If nobody here to grab you or participate, join us.
Oh, my God.
That was the most he ever did.
Yeah.
This fucking guy, man.
Peace, man.
The fuck?
Yo, what's that?
Coffee?