The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 670 | "Burnt Muffins"
Episode Date: October 28, 2023The JBP kicks off this episode with a recap of Cesar Pina breaking his silence by going live on Instagram (33:27) before the Bionic Six turns to Dwight Howard addressing the latest news surrounding hi...s sexuality (45:34). With October 31st around the corner, the room discusses Halloween 2023 (1:18:02), Brent Faiyaz drops his new project ‘Larger Than Life’ (1:31:40), and Tyla performs ‘Water’ on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon which leads to a conversation on artists crafting music while simultaneously balancing the business (1:45:12). Also, the Milli Vanilli documentary is out on Paramount+ (1:54:03), An update on the Jonathan Majors case after his ex-girlfriend was arrested (2:37:45), Rumors of Jada Pinkett Smith’s book flopping (2:43:17), City Girls address their low record sales (2:50:36), Part of the Show (3:02:56), + MORE! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks: Joe | Yebba (feat. Sweata) - “Waterfall (I Adore You)” Ice | GloRilla & CMG The Label - “Overstood” Parks | Chill Moody (feat. Maggie & Hiruy Tirfe) - “Horns At the Funeral” Ish | Rema - “Don’t Leave”
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Shout out to Pox, yeah.
Anything y'all want it to be.
Talk to the mic.
We're live.
We're live.
Talk to the mic.
I talked about this
with Savon too, by the way.
I talked about this
with Savon.
Oh, shit, man.
I talked about this
with Savon.
Go ahead, girl.
Oh, shit, you bad.
You staying alive for real
The Bee Gees is back
Girl
You alright?
I'm good
You got a waist train on?
I don't wear those
Oh shit
Pow
Shot me
My fore
My fore damn engine
My leg
Yo Ish you good?
Good morning Ish
We live
Hey don't talk to the mic
We live
Don't try to save y'all energy
For an 80 degree day.
Wake it up in here.
All that sleepy shit. All that
I've been outside all week.
When is it going to be 8? Hint, hint. Playing
ping pong.
With New York being good.
With New York being good to your soul.
Talking to the mic, motherfucker.
Talking to the mic. Robbed Marley.
That's hate. She was with the... That's hate.
She was with the step Marley.
Yeah, she was with some other...
The Marley's they don't acknowledge.
Stop.
That's our friend.
Stop.
I was supposed to go to that shop.
Where you was supposed to go to that shit too?
Oh, shit.
Where the Marley's?
Oh, shit.
Let me put my headphones on and lotion my ankles.
First of all, you got to pull your mic.
First of all, you got to pull the mic up, nigga.
Why don't y'all hold it down while the mic. Don't tell him to pull his mic.
Yeah, don't do that.
That's gross.
How about that?
Why you coming in with your apricot scrub
to put on your ankles?
This nigga got pomegranate pomade on his ankles.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
That's the pod lotion.
I didn't bring that.
What is that right there?
Joe Malone.
Joe Malone.
I know.
Joe Malone. Pomegran. I know. Joe Malone.
Pomegranate something stuff.
Exactly.
Pomegranate noir.
Exactly.
That's what I said.
Noir.
All right.
Ish, what's up with you?
I'm good.
Don't play today.
How you feeling?
Is she better?
Ish called me this morning, tried to call out while I'm taking a shit.
Nope.
I did not try to call out.
I heard you with the, hey, yo, big dog.
I was just running on toilet.
Hey, dog. Hey, dog. He's lying. I'm not try to call you. I heard you with the, yo, big dog. I was just running on the toilet. Hey, dog.
Hey, dog.
He's lying.
I ain't lying.
How you know what I'm doing?
I was taking a shit.
I'm talking about you lying
and saying I'm trying to call up.
I wasn't trying to.
Imagine my face right after I shit.
No.
No.
My fucking phone go on.
Hell no.
I'm like, look at Ish.
Good thing I shit already.
That nigga was trying to ruin my shit.
I like a good shit.
Oh my God. A lot of peace and quiet in the shit.
Nah, for real. I like a good shit. Do my best thoughts
off during the shit. And that's the only time
I'm doing any bending exercises.
Yo. Alright.
What? Pause, I guess.
Yeah.
Alright, whatever. Weird way to start.
Weird way. Well, y'all can talk.
Let me figure out what I'm doing over here on the intro vibes.
I got to do something to get my people alive.
How are you?
You look good.
I'm well.
Yourself?
Like you lost a fight at the construction site, but it looked good.
Ish is mad at me because I surpassed him in the pod dressing.
That's not possible, though.
Why would I be mad at you, though?
Because I'm the one that brought it to your attention.
You didn't know.
That's fine. It's not even possible. Why would I be mad at you? Really snappy. No, I'm saying Why would I be mad at you, though? Because I'm the one that brought it to your attention. You didn't know. That's fine.
Why would I be mad at you?
Really snappy.
No, I'm saying, why would I be mad?
Both of them.
Yeah, let me tell the audience.
Hey, Flip, I'm so glad you're here.
Y'all missed me.
We snapped.
Tell the audience.
Don't try to throw me in that, dog.
No, nigga, you're a traitor.
Nah, I was just trying to throw you in there.
Don't try to throw me in there.
Hey, audience, I'm letting y'all know Ish and Ice.
They not playing.
Little snappy today.
Ice might have got the best sleep ever on that mattress.
Ice, pre-production, you wasn't playing today.
He not playing.
He not playing today.
I do that every time.
I come in here and I sit down until it's time to work.
No, no, no, no, stop.
Wasting energy for free?
No, no, no, it's not that.
Ice!
I come here and sit here and chill.
You was snappy today.
I wasn't snappy.
And Ish, Ish, I'm watching that couch today. You wanted me to kick somethings back't snappy. I wasn't snappy. I'm watching that couch today.
You wanted me to kick somethings back in, and I said I don't do that.
Yeah.
That's not true.
That is not true.
That is true.
That's not true.
Let me introduce it.
Introduce it.
We was talking about docs.
I told Joe that Mel is up in the doc.
Joe said no.
You said Mel is up in our doc war.
Yes.
Mel admitted defeat and said no. Joe was up, and you said Joe was up.
Then I said, Ice, what about you and Docs?
You said, I don't watch Docs.
No, it actually started a little bit before that.
We were talking about the Milli Vanilli Doc.
Yes.
And he was like, did y'all see it?
I was like, nah, man, I ain't watch that shit.
Like that.
So then I asked you, I said, Ice, you don't watch Docs?
I said, they don't do it for me.
Like, I watch a Doc, and it get boring, and next thing you know, I said, you don't watch docs? I said, they don't do it for me. Like, I watch a doc and it get boring.
And next thing you know, I'm looking for my phone or something.
Or I'm trying to find something else to do.
Or I'm going to sleep.
Like, they just don't do it for me.
Then Joe said, you should come on here and shit on docs.
And I said, no, I'm not going to shit on stuff I don't like.
Because it don't go well.
I said, the last time I shit on something I don't like, y'all jumped me.
And I was talking about Afrobeats. So no, there's no point in me shitting on docs. If I don't like it, I just don't go well. I said, the last time I shit on something I don't like, y'all jumped me. And I was talking about Afrobeats.
So no,
there's no point in me
shitting on Docs
if I don't like it,
I just don't talk about it.
Yo nigga,
fuck Docs.
You do that.
Fuck it.
I'm with you.
I like Docs.
I'm not saying fuck Docs.
That is such a-
They just not for me.
Ish,
what do you think about
that crock of shit?
I wasn't here.
No,
but how he just-
Do you,
did y'all not go,
I swear,
I will turn this shit up today swear I will turn this shit up today
I will turn this shit up today
Y'all stop playing with me
What are you talking about
Did you hear
What he said
About
He doesn't look
Listen to what
You
Call them
Call them
He doesn't want
He doesn't want
The nigga just said something
He said a fucking
40 minutes of doc shit
Which part you want me to comment on
How do you feel
Of his explanation
Of not speaking about
or shitting on docs
on camera?
No, as he related it
to us shitting on him
about the Afro.
Thank you.
Now you give me
some clarification
on what you want me to comment on.
I'm sick.
I don't feel like I'm sick.
Look who's snappy.
Look who's snappy.
Look who's snappy.
Hey, talk to me like you sick.
I'm a cop.
Talk to me like you sick.
Now talk to me like you 100. I'm a cop. Talk to me like you sick. Now talking to me like you 100% healthy.
You are not.
You all right?
What's going on?
Yo, yo, yo, I ain't going to hold you.
Ever since you put that shit on your neck,
you came in here a little snappy, son.
Oh, shit.
That's what it is, yo.
I let you live.
I wasn't going to say nothing.
I wasn't going to say nothing.
But now you want to jump up and do all this?
That might be it.
Yo, dog, the chain don't make you a thug, you bitch ass nigga.
Shit, my eyes.
My eyes.
You know what I mean?
You a rapper and the chain don't make you a thug.
Word, nigga.
We'll take that chain from you.
We still from North, nigga.
You notice he keeps it tucked?
You notice he keeps it tucked?
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Oh, not my guy.
I knew it, boy.
Not my agency. I knew it, man. Not my agency.
I can't believe it.
Yeah.
That was the chain you was working on, huh?
That's funny.
You ain't a gangster rapper, nigga.
You rap about introspective shit.
That's what I don't.
Hey, audience.
I'm talking to the audience.
Hey, when my crew abandon me, I get to y'all.
Oh.
Hey.
It's your second crew.
Audience, I don't like that.
We had a perfect opportunity to jump it's just now everybody skipped
it and now I'm getting jumped
how did that happen
cause you tried to get us to jump ice first
no y'all let that bullshit
that he just said ride
that
that Milli Vanilli shit came up
organically it did
it did it was
that is not the same as his Afro beat tweet that came up organically. It did. It did. It did. It did. It was. That is not the same as his Afrobeat
tweet. That came up organically
too. The same
way I was sitting in the barbershop and it was planted.
It came up organically. But Docs isn't
like culture like Afrobeat is. Let's go, Pops.
Let's go, Pops. Depending on who you look at.
There's Doc Culture. That people that listen to Doc Pods.
Watch Doc. Yeah.
I'm at work. We started.
Say hi to people, man. What's up, fellas and I'm at work. We started say hi to people man
Hey, what's up fellas and young lady?
What's going on with you? No, that's me
Yeah, I was gonna call you this morning because you know
I ain't even heard from you since you got that since you got that pig back to New York
Well, I told you I was going to bring you
and some of your friends some,
but it's still frozen in my freezer.
So, the post is up on Tuesday.
That's the perfect place
for it to stay.
Yeah.
Shut up.
I got a big place for it.
Place for itch.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, just for itch.
He's not going to be 5% of that day.
It's cool.
Yeah, I know.
I know. I know.
I know.
Listen, I just called to sign out if you got your bag back.
Oh, Pop, that bag is never coming back.
No.
Damn.
No.
I took my ass up there to LaGuardia yesterday, though.
I went up there.
Yeah, sure enough did.
What happened?
You came back home.
And said it?
Well, I wasn't going there expecting to get my bag.
No, you came back.
Your bag is going to stay nice and calm.
So what's the conversation?
The conversation there was, I walked in and said, all right, it was three of them sitting there.
I said, who wants this nightmare?
Long story short, they brought some supervisor out.
It was no urgency.
She told me, yeah, protocol is we have to wait five days, and then you can submit a file.
I said, no, no, no, ma'am.
We're doing way more could submit a file. I said, no, no, no, ma'am. We're doing way more
than submitting a file. I'm pressing charges and I want the person that stole my bag identified.
So please go get the police so we can fill out the report and we can start looking at cameras
because this is not urgent. Y'all are not dealing with this with urgency. Yeah, I want that person
to lose their job. The person that stole that bag, yeah, I want them gone.
But what happens after the five days?
Then what happens?
No, they're looking at cameras now.
They're looking at cameras.
I had to file a police report.
No, no, they was lying before, Pop.
They was lying.
I was messed up,
because I was going to borrow that bag, too.
Yeah, it's cool.
Kiss the bag goodbye. It's fine. Someone needed it more than me. Yeah, it's cool. Kiss the bag goodbye.
It's fine.
Someone needed it more than me.
Yeah, your pops.
But that's another word.
All right, I'm going to call you later, Pop.
All right, y'all enjoy the show.
Hey, Ice, I'm mad at you, man.
I'm mad at you, Ice.
Me too.
What'd I do?
Me too.
No, I'm mad at you, Ice, man.
Talk to me.
He got me listening to the same ten songs on my
podcast. You ain't
called me. You ain't called me. You called me directly.
It gets fixed right away. And none of them is pumped up.
That's messed up.
All right, buddy. All right.
That's your time. Talk to you later, man. Bye.
Call me, Pop.
You see where it come from?
Oh, gosh. That's funny.
A little fake charm, fake charisma.
That's my man, though.
That's my man.
Yeah.
We're going to have a good day today.
For sure.
We're going to have a good day today.
Absolutely.
I forgot what we was talking about.
Y'all was jumping.
Fuck y'all.
There's so much to change.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what we're talking about.
That took three months to get, nigga.
Gold all in my chain.
Yeah.
Gold all in my watch.
I remember when you first talked about that chain, too.
You was reluctant to buy it.
Now, it look like you're not reluctant anymore chain, too. You was reluctant to buy it. Now it look like
you're not reluctant anymore.
You done bought the piece.
It's heavy.
It matches your wrists.
Yeah?
Show us.
Man.
Who the fuck you think
you are coming in here
like that, nigga?
That big ass chain.
You try to be all humble.
That's not humble.
He really not, though.
That's why he keep
jumping up in niggas' faces.
Doing all that shit.
And that shit,
it's not a choker, nigga. That shit come down. that shit and that that like it's not a choker that should come down it's not a choker
don't hide it and they got the same size diamonds that it had what what is it that ain't bigger no
yeah oh let me check let me double check yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah check that yeah we have those you ain't coming up. Those are not baguettes either. Paul, can you grab me a water, please, out of there?
Oh, my son is different.
My son playing different.
Now, flip, flip, flip.
Look at the clasp on it.
Can you give me just something to drink?
Can you sit down?
No one want to talk to you about that one.
Happy to see you. You get cold out sick, right? I did. You get a lot of work done when you're sick. No one want to talk to you about that one. I'm shit.
I'm shit.
You get cold out sick, right?
I did.
You get a lot of work done when you're sick.
What did I get done?
Mad work.
Say it.
A lot of shows.
A lot of shows when you're sick.
What type of shows?
You almost even get more work done when you're sick.
That's a skill right there, boy.
Yeah, you got to work on your sick days.
That's a skill right there, boy.
You got to work on your sick days.
But not come to work, but you got to work on your sick days.
Got you.
OK.
No, but I will say I had a fever.
And shout out to you.
You told me just to get better.
And I got better.
You got hot?
You got cold real quick?
No, I got cold.
It's hot doing all that content.
Like sometimes when the phone is doing too much content,
it overheats.
Until you got to cool down a little bit.
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of shit I be uploading
will be old shit.
Oh.
Yo, niggas love that old line, yo.
I hate that line.
Niggas do like that line.
Niggas love,
yo, this old.
This old.
This old.
We got to broadcast it, dude.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
The two old violators
is the ones that want
to move on now.
You see it, right?
Good point.
Yes.
Hey, Ice, I don't want no smoke with you today, bro.
Where's the core?
Where's the core of that, man?
Come on.
Don't break it again, man.
I know.
I know.
But that's good that you broke it.
That means that you.
That look like she ready for the weekend.
Yeah.
She is ready to go.
Got some things to do.
You're leaving again, huh, Mel?
Huh?
Are you leaving?
Yes.
Yes, my suitcases are in the back.
Wait, straight to the airport.
Wait, you came here with your luggage?
I did, yeah. Is the dog here? No, she is at the sit where you came here with your suit with your luggage. I did is the dog here
No, she is at the sitters. Oh the sitters
Yeah, so she might actually get a meal or two
Pretty dope the dog get a meal while you get to go be a meal
That's pretty dope.
The dog get a meal while you get to go be a meal.
Now, how?
Hey, Big Mel.
Stop fucking playing with us, how you know the vibe.
You know what type of shit we on.
We come to work with our bags. That's right.
Air tagged up.
Air tagged up.
Huh?
Straight from work.
Hard out today.
Hey, you niggas Patreon by yourselves.
Huh?
33B.
Oh, no, no.
I think I'm going to be able to do Patreon, too.
Nice.
My bad.
Oh, shit.
33B.
She's not in 33B.
Oh, no.
She's in 33B.
She's not in 33B.
What are you in?
17F?
I'm in 2A.
Okay.
Yeah, no.
She picked her own.
She bought a ticket.
Oh, shit.
She looked good.
You know you get to pick your own.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
She didn't buy her ticket.
She didn't buy her ticket.
No, she bought a ticket.
Okay, my bad. Look, she shot at you. Don't speak for black women. Come on. I'm protecting her. know you get to pick your own she didn't buy her ticket no she bought it okay not that look she
shot at you don't speak for black women come on i'm protecting her don't speak for black women
she independent you bought your way yeah throw your hands up at me yo can we just admit right
now and then quickly move on that it's got you right now well what come on I mean I am I am independent but I did not
buy my own ticket convenient. That's not work related. Leave her alone. That is not work related.
Nope.
It's a Pilates thing.
I actually have a... A gig.
Yes, I have some work responsibilities.
Shout out to Mel.
Okay.
Get into the fucking bag.
That's it then.
That's it.
Get in the bag.
Stay in your bag.
I'm trying.
I'm trying.
I'm trying.
Trying to catch up with you.
Trying to wear a chain like that.
Yes.
Trying to get like you, big dog. Trying to get like you big dog I had your hands
I cut mine off
I got my cup out
I had your hands up
I don't like when
Mel get down with y'all little jokes
I don't like that
So what are we about to play
Are we going to play the Shaft
Theme song No Rest in peace I don't like that. So what are we about to play? Are we going to play the Shaft theme song?
No.
Rest in peace.
Rest in peace.
Rest in peace.
Rest in peace, Richard Roundtree.
Rest in peace, Richard Roundtree.
Legend, GOAT, Shaft, one of the greatest.
Yes.
Smooth as you know what.
I mean, come on.
You don't think that that would just set things off right for a Friday, Saturday?
Ask your fellow cast members.
What do you guys think?
He just played Reservoir Dogs
a couple days ago, so I mean.
Okay.
Go all of my chains.
Go all of my rain.
Don't believe me, just watch.
Was that y'all version
of asking a question
and answering it
for our listening audience?
Yes, it was.
Nobody can go against Mel,
so you know what I'm saying?
We just had to deflect. Damn. You got to pick it up. You got Yes, it was. Nobody can go against Mel, so you know what I'm saying? We just had to deflect.
Damn.
You got to figure it out.
You got to figure it out.
Y'all got her figured out.
I learned it.
You know what I mean?
All that weaponizing womanhood.
Get that shit the fuck out of here.
We don't rock with that.
Shout out to me.
What you got queued up?
I'm going to start with
the theme from The Shaft.
Okay.
And we like 30 minutes in.
What you starting with?
I love this part.
Do I have some inspiration?
Don't you?
Stop looking at me, man.
I'm talking to you.
Let's see if I got some inspiration for us, man.
Oh, man.
I'd love some inspiration.
Start us out right.
Oh, let me get off a mail page.
We'll talk about that later.
Oh, shit.
Let me get off a big mail page.
Free the nip, right?
Oh.
I didn't even know.
I wasn't even trying to expose the nip.
You're showing nipples.
I hate when people try to get ahead of the joke.
I hate when people try to get ahead of the joke. I hate when people try to get ahead of the joke.
I'm sorry.
Well, I mean, that was like.
That's why I'm going to stop telling y'all my good joke
behind the scenes.
Then y'all come on here and try to jump in front of me.
You can't jump in front of a car crash.
Don't do that.
Oh, shit.
Don't do that.
OK, fine.
All right, let's see here.
Benward.
But the night.
I like Benward.
But I don't dislike it enough to listen to the edited versions of songs.
I just don't.
Those songs stink.
They're not good.
I mean, when every other word is bleeped out, it just kind of fucks up the whole tempo of
the song.
At that point, it doesn't even feel like authentic country music.
Oh, shit.
I like the white boy jokes.
I do. I do.
I do.
Mic check one two one two.
80 degrees outside today, you know my body.
Fuck is going on out there.
Queens, what up? Jersey, what up?
Rest in peace, man.
Ayy!
Fuck the niggas, baby, you won't let me.
Got your back to back all day for riots
It's one of the songs that put my jersey up in the Melody's rafters
And the hookah spot rafters, y'all know the vibe
Tell your nigga about you see him made up
If Brownstone Bay was up here when this song was out, oh no
Big Mouth!
Rest in peace, Chase, rest in peace, stat
Squad up, ayy, go!
Money on my line, you know that she be callin' Rollin' boner in the riding leather with the foreign Rest in peace, change, rest in peace, stack Squad up, and go Shout out to the ladies listening
Shout out to everybody in the car wash
I need to go first thing in the morning flawless and the coach got a lot until I keep the falling money motherfucker hey
tell your nigga by you see him later pull that push up then we pull the race
shorty leaving with me and all to me
got you back to back on for others no you let you with your Abu Dhabi don't
you how y'all feeling man what's going? Let me talk to my people, man.
Feel good, man.
Feel great.
Excellent.
How y'all doing?
Feel great.
Excellent.
What's up, man?
Anybody got some fun weekend plans going on?
Come on.
I'm outside all weekend.
Yeah, I'm about to be a hoe.
Let me turn this down.
Is this technically Halloween?
Yeah, it will be.
Technically, yeah.
Especially Saturday, 80 degrees?
What?
We outside, outside.
We got the matching costumes.
We going to Halloween parties.
We outside.
You got a matching costume with your daughter?
What y'all, peanut butter and jelly?
No, I'm talking about my girl.
Oh, I'm sorry.
What y'all going to be?
The Pharaoh and Cleopatra.
Okay.
That's nice.
Peanut butter and jelly is a good idea, though.
Is that what you and your wife are going to be?
No.
No?
No.
We did not do matching.
I did the- She tried to make me do No. We did not do matching. I did the
She tried to make me do matching but no.
I did the joke with my daughter. I was Mario
and she was Princess Peach.
That's so cute. That's nice.
That is. What are you and your wife
going to be Parks? She's a
What did she want you guys to be?
She's a cheerleader and she wanted me
to be something that went
with it. You 6'5".
I could have been a basketball player.
Right, right.
But there was slip pickings at the old Spirit Halloween store two days before Halloween weekend.
So I had to make some shit happen.
How about you?
What you going to be?
A home and joy?
I'm going to be Antoine.
You know I don't fuck with no Halloween nigga.
What you gonna be?
Something.
What?
Naked.
I'm gonna be the naked cowboy nigga.
Just throw a sheet on.
Giddy up.
Giddy up.
Throw a sheet on.
Yeah, just throw a sheet on and cut the eyes out.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
That's racist.
No, no, I meant a ghost.
No, it's not.
He's from Virginia.
Oh shit.
Experience that, my boy.
Mic check, mic check, mic check.
My man Flip is back from being sick.
Hey.
What up?
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What up? What up? What up? What up? What up? Baby, I'm gripping you up All right, man, we got a real good show lined up for y'all today
Yo, shout out to all the JVP fans that's traveling right now
That's where I bump into a lot of y'all in the airports Yo, shout out to all the JVP fans that's traveling right now.
That's where I bump into a lot of y'all in the airports.
Y'all niggas want to stop me while I'm trying to buy the fucking newspaper.
Talk to me about your favorite podcast.
Your shit got stolen.
They distracted you.
No, my shit got stolen because a nigga from Delta fucking took my shit off of the little belt and went to his car with it.
I mean,
LaGuardia gonna have to prove to me that that bag
ever was there.
They're talking about
it was scanned.
Yeah, I know.
When you got to the airport.
It got scanned in.
Hmm?
It got scanned into New York.
That was one of the stories.
So wait,
hold on one second.
When you checked in,
did you check in curbside
or did you go
into the airport?
I don't do anything on the curb.
You want me to stand outside in the rigid cold?
No.
That's priority, though.
And those are the people that want the tip.
You have to have cash on you.
Gotta have cash.
Do you tip them?
Yes, absolutely.
How much?
Depends on how many bags I have,
but usually with one bag, I give them like $10.
If I have like two bags, I give them $20.
Shout out to you, man.
Okay.
That's generous of you.
Don't lie on the airwaves.
I'm not lying.
That's what I tip.
They be listening.
No, that's what I tip.
Okay.
I believe you.
Good thing.
What was in that bag, Joe?
You know all his shit was in there.
Like, Bottega this and fucking Ugg that and cologne.
Yeah, that fucking lady in there talking about something.
What was in the bag?
I started naming some clothes.
She said, yeah, but did you have any electronics in there?
I'm like, man, the clothes I'm naming you are more than the electronics.
Just continue to write, please.
And a Priceless Family heirlooms that was in there.
Oh, yeah. I gave him some of that, too. Yeah, that was in there. It's cool to write, please. And a priceless family heirlooms that was in there. Oh, yeah.
I gave him some of that, too.
That was in there. It's cool, though, man.
Listen, I'm going to max out at a thousand
on. I don't know what's going to happen.
Somebody's going to go to jail, though.
I know that. I'm going to sleep better
at night. But you know what? I'm
blessed. I'm going to start this part soon,
but I'm blessed enough to really not be too bothered
by whatever's happening with the bag.
That's good.
Like, that's the important part.
Because it's just material stuff.
It's internal peace.
Bag is gone.
You lose some clothes.
Whoopty.
Like, what do you want to do about it, man?
Nothing you can do.
That's it.
It's a dub.
You can sit in your house tight about it.
You can sit in your house mad about it.
I got my refund, so I'm not...
I got resolution to my problem.
Oh, good. This is episode 670?
That's right. Welcome to episode 670.
Pim, pim, pim.
Pim, pim, pim.
Soundboard is right there in front of you.
No, but I do it because that's how
I envision Mel when she get around her little
brownstone Brooklyn people.
You think she does the drops?
I think she does all that word on the curb
goofy shit. You walk in and go on hootie? And I think it works.
And I think it works in that crew.
I think she definitely hit them with a hootie.
It don't really hit in this crew, but when
she get around her other people, they call it back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They definitely do. I feel like they do call and respond
to holla back youngin'.
I was about to say, I even think they do the two-way part.
Let's go, Hollaback.
That shit came on in the hookah spot the other day.
I started getting mad.
I started getting depressed.
Why?
Because Fab had a Pharrell beat for his second single.
The fuck is you talking about? And Pharrell beat for his second single. The fuck is you
talking about? And a Rick Rock beat for his first single and a Timbaland beat for
his third single. That's why. That's hate. Yeah, I was hatin'. I can't hear none of them slaps, man.
I started getting mad. That shit was going though. I remember that shit in 03. I remember this game
coming to the block in Queens. Yo, I'm sitting there trying to work on something.
He told me, yo, Fab got a cropped banger.
You know how that feel as an artist?
You're in the studio trying to come up with some shit.
Nigga come to you with his second single.
Rollin', go to Cedar.
Told you, dude.
Blocka put holes in.
I had just did a blocka on my song.
Did it the same?
Nah, my blocker was so trapped.
They killed that shit.
Ghetto Fab
rode through cheetahs.
I was just in cheetahs.
Oh, man.
Fab.
All right, man.
Listen, positive vibes,
positive energy.
We feel great.
Hopefully y'all do too
out there.
A lot of non-important
stuff to get to.
Facts.
Where do y'all want to start
with any of it?
I don't want to start
with the Milli Vanilli doc
because none of y'all
really seen it.
You're the only one that saw it.
I watched it.
No, Parks saw it.
Parks saw it
and the doc got it.
Right.
I know you saw it.
I did not.
You were there.
What?
Milli Vanilli.
If I was there,
you were there. Okay, yes, yes, yes. Like I can see Flip not watching it because he wasn't there you were there okay yes yes yes I can see
flip not watching it because he wasn't there well first of all did you see how
shocked she was she thought that you exposed something be careful
we thought she was.
You do look like that brown skin dude.
What?
Whoa.
Okay, look.
Listen, that trend
is about to fucking end
right now
saying I look like men,
okay?
That's fucking over.
And I want to tell Ish
that they were both brown skin.
No, they wasn't.
One of them was
super light skin.
One of them was light skin.
What are you talking about?
I don't see.
I think that's brown.
I think that's brown.
You think Ish is brown skin?
No, I think that the light skin people that really differentiate between shades of brown,
I do think it has hints of colorism.
Hmm.
Bro, what are you talking about, bro?
One of them niggas was light-skinned.
What am I?
What am I?
You light-skinned.
So I'm not brown.
See, and that's my point.
And that's my point.
No, it's just light skin.
What's Joe?
Caramel.
Caramel.
Butter pecan.
Caramel.
Yo, stop.
Come on.
Straight nutcase.
Hating on my butter pecan.
Shit. Light skin. I just have a question real quick.
Ish, why do a lot of light-skinned people,
when they watch porn, they look for interracial porn?
Because you said that, and somebody else,
my homegirl Cinnamon said that, from A.U. doing the most.
Is that what you're talking about with Cinnamon?
You know what I'm saying?
Because she watched interracial Porn.
She said it.
And I said,
yo, it's the same thing.
Like, is that a thing?
Do y'all like want to relate?
Find somebody to relate to?
I don't know what the other
light-skinned people
watching their bedroom flip.
But if you watch it,
you watch Interracial Porn.
I watch all porn.
But you said one of your...
But your main thing
though was...
The shit with the star
where you press the star
on top of the tag
is Interracial.
I just wanted to know.
My fault.
My fault.
Talk about it.
Mel, you watch interracial porn, too, yes?
Like, is it something, do you want to see?
No.
Oh.
No, I'm not like, I'm not a porn watcher.
Okay, salute.
Yeah.
She wanted to make sure.
Yeah, I'm not a porn watcher.
Okay, let the bus pass.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm learning from to watch it. Okay. Let the bus pass. Yeah.
Almost jumped on the bus.
I'm learning from y'all because usually I would have just hopped right on that bus.
That would have been a B-45.
It was a lot of like, I don't see color.
We're all the same.
In the 90s, it was a lot of like, I don't see color.
I know he's going to start with porn.
I'll start with this.
But now we're so obsessed with everyone's differences.
Like you flip through HBO Max, it's all these categories.
Trans stories.
Strong black women.
Asian culture.
Like, hey, HBO, I know you're trying to be progressive,
but porn's been doing this shit for 30 years.
You're never going to out-inclusive porn.
All these networks patting themselves on the back.
We have a gay section.
Porn's like, yeah, we have a gay senior citizen dwarf in a wheelchair you're not more open-minded than us right
i mean talk about representation i've been watching asian culture since high school
hbo is like well we have a family section porn's like yeah we, we have a family section. Horton's like, yeah, we got that and stepfamily. Gosh.
Right.
That was great.
That was a white dude.
He's funny, man.
That was good.
He be funny, yo.
I'm sorry.
I won't interrupt y'all again with Horton's jokes. No, no, no, no, no.
That was good.
That was good.
Just a thought.
In memory.
Yo, dawg, you just knew right where to go on your phone and get that?
I thought that same thing in my head.
Like, how did he?
Yeah.
How did he just have that clip at the ready?
Yeah.
Do you have sections, too?
In your notes?
Almost like I save things that might be entertaining or compelling for the audience.
No, but you knew exactly, like, within a split second where to go get that.
Because you wasn't searching too long.
Yeah.
How do you know?
Nice, bro.
All right. All right. You're nice, bro. All right.
All right.
That was nice.
All right.
I hate when you try to be humble.
Don't be humble.
I'm humble.
No, you're not.
Get the fuck out of here.
I am humble.
That chain says different.
Stop.
You know I'm humble.
Stop.
Don't do that.
He tucks it.
He trying to be subtle humble.
Wait, wait, wait.
That could be two things.
I'm humble.
That could be two things, Vox.
You scared or? Oh, shit. That could be two things. I'm humble. That could mean two things, Pox. You're scared or...
Oh, shit.
That could mean two things.
I got to be on point today.
You get a little freaky, Pox.
I'm freaky while I'm freaky.
So when you say he tucks it, are you talking about the chain?
Yes.
Oh, my God.
You're disgusting.
The chain?
He doesn't tuck his chain.
Outside, that shit was...
You could square up, nigga.
Nigga.
What you thought the alternative was today
what you thought
I'm not gonna say it
and I'm not gonna
disrespect the hair waves
so you
I'm feeling
Dwight Howard too big
to be doing that shit
he doing
I'm not up for that
how tall he is
doing this shit
you can't be that
but it's really
nobody business
you gotta be submissive
nigga
you gotta
be humble
he not humble he not humble anyway You got to be submissive, nigga. You got to be humble.
He's not humble.
He's not humble.
Anyway.
Dwight, tired of y'all.
I'm humble.
You're not humble, but.
And you just hung out with old man, so you feel like, I can see the little energy, like,
slow down today.
I'm chilling, man.
Okay.
I saw you hanging out. Why you post that picture?
I wanted to
You don't care about
Like people's beliefs right?
No
No
But I didn't post it without
You know
Consent
Can you guys
Let us in on
What you're talking about?
This nigga will spill the tea
Won't he?
For me?
Yeah that's what I'm saying
I know you're sitting there
Looking like
That's what I'm saying
Who what
What'd you spill the tea with what?
And we talking about,
we talking,
Nitty's so militant still,
right?
Like,
he don't eat no meat.
No meat.
Fucking,
what else that nigga say?
That nigga's like a robot.
That nigga ordered a bagel with avocado,
like some stupid shit.
I'm like,
nigga,
what are you doing?
He made me feel a way.
I had to get a whole wheat bread with eggs and turkey, and turkey bacon. shit. I'm like, nigga, what are you doing? He made me feel a way. I had to get a whole wheat bread
with eggs and turkey bacon
because I'm like,
nigga,
you get an avocado
on a bagel with lettuce?
Nigga,
what the fuck is that?
So now I had to order
some stuff.
I don't want to eat
no pork in front of this nigga.
This is my man.
I haven't seen him
in a long time.
But you know,
shout out to him.
Shout out to Nitty, man.
So Nitty ordered
some pineapple juice, some bullshit at the bar.
You know, you look around, he like, there's a couple of little things in here, man.
Don't play.
Back in my day, I used to get a pen and a napkin.
Don't let me.
I'll slide my little, slide it over.
It was good seeing you.
Oh, man, real good to see you.
Shout out to Nitty, man.
We don't have to start with Dwight. We don't have to start with Dwight.
We don't have to start with Cesar's Insta Live.
We should start with that.
Cesar, hey.
Nigga, I don't know what type of time you want.
I don't know if you have a bedroom.
Wait, we got to tell the audience.
Cesar went on Insta Live, and he resurfaced after, you know,
nobody's seen him since all of this shit been going on.
He was laying low.
Yeah, and he went on Instagram and he addressed everyone.
I kind of like that shit.
And everything.
Boy, it was primetime entertainment for me.
That was good.
It was entertaining.
Yeah, it was.
He should have been.
If he do that every week, I'm tuned in.
And Caesar, if you want a platform.
Oh shit.
Hold on, hold on.
I knew it was coming.
Hold up for a second.
I knew it was coming.
Hey Caesar, take this through.
Yo, you.
If at any point you want to share your story.
Oh my gracious.
Now let me tell y'all why that's really phony.
Because Nori called me this morning.
He's like
Y'all need some
Brother advice
I'm like hey
I'm here for you man
He says
He's a mic
You know what I mean
I said oh you get that
You outta here
That's what we all waiting for
I said you gonna kill that shit
He said yeah man
Cause this is why
He said you know
Other platforms Not really fucking with Envy But my shit You know you gonna kill that shit. He said, yeah, man, because this is why he said, you know,
other platforms not really fucking with MV
but my shit,
you know,
I'm saying, yeah,
nah, that makes sense.
You should reach out to him.
Nigga, I was putting on
my pants for work.
Jump in front of that one.
Hey, in the area.
Local?
Hey, you can get it done
without that Florida flight.
Nah, I'm joking, man.
Nah, I want to see
Cease on Drink Champs.
I'm talking shit.
I'd rather see him
on Drink Champs.
I want to see him
on Drink Champs.
Go anywhere.
I want to see him anywhere.
Yeah, he just got
sent on a tour.
It was entertaining.
He just big as hell.
Mad nooks and crannies
on that nigga, man.
Fat niggas explaining
shit is funny. That will never not
be funny.
He was humble. What? Not.
Nigga.
So come on, let's get to it. Caesar
went on there. He's holding Envy down.
Yes, he is. That was the big takeaway
is that he's holding Envy
down. I thought it was pretty funny when he was like
Envy wasn't a rule.
Everybody's a victim now.
Nobody was an investor.
Envy was my partner, and he invested.
But now everybody.
Now he said, yo, the nigga lawyer sound like an asshole.
That nigga's not a fucking victim.
Oh, yeah, with the defense.
He said that part.
He said that part.
Yeah.
So he didn't hold him down.
Well, he held him down. He held him down and said that he wasn He said that part. Yeah. He said that part. So he didn't hold him down. Well, he held him down by saying that he wasn't in the room.
It sounds like he's holding Envy down, but he don't agree with the route that Envy's
attorney is taking.
True.
So a sort of hold down.
Hmm.
It sounds like a sort of hold down.
He's excluding him from being in the room when he makes certain deals.
He excluded him from saying he ain't steal nobody bread or he not responsible for it.
He said Envy
didn't steal nothing.
Or give nobody
any money back.
Did he say he stole anything?
No.
No.
He apologized to some niggas.
But what he did,
he didn't say,
well yeah,
and he didn't say
he stole nothing,
but when he did go
on a little rant,
he was like,
and now when I'm out
eating a little steakhouse
or whatever, people are thinking that that's coming from stolen victim's money.
Every time I'm going to get some ice cream, niggas in the street tell me, oh, that's the victim's money.
My daughter is going out for it.
Like, yo, I was successful before.
That's what he said.
Look at Ish.
Look at Ish.
It's DM'd him that.
It's DM'd him that line.
Yo, dog, this is what you got to say, dog.
Ish is talking him through it.
Scam coach. Oh, DM'd him that line. This is what you got to say, dog. It's just talking him through it. Scam coach.
Oh, shit.
Fucking scam therapist
ass nigga. Don't do that. But anyway,
while he was saying that, while I
laughed, I was like,
okay, but
that says that there's victim's money
somewhere. But he did say I messed up.
If you're saying I'm not spending the victim's money
because I was successful before, okay, then where's the victim's money because I was successful before,
okay,
then where's
the victim's money?
He did say he messed up.
He did say that,
you know,
he may have to pay
some people back.
And he said he'll deal
with it when this day comes.
He said he's standing
ten toes in that.
Huh?
Whatever I did,
I will be held responsible.
That's what he said.
If I go to jail,
I do my time
and then I'll come back
to the scammer's money still. That's what he said. If I go to jail, I do my time. And I come back. And then I'll come back to the scammers' money still.
That nigga was talking crazy.
Yeah, he said, I'm going to come back and get right back to it.
I was like, oh, shit.
That can be interpreted a few ways.
It sure can.
And they watching it, too.
Go long my chain.
I just don't get doing them videos when you got charges pending.
Man.
That nigga must got a.
I don't get that shit.
You playing with the feds.
They got Instagram too.
I think.
I was driving home and like 70 motherfuckers was sending me the live.
Like, dog, why y'all calling me to tell me this nigga alive?
I don't know this nigga.
You know why.
I don't know why.
Because he follows you on Instagram. Tell me I'm lying what does that have to do with swear
to God say swear to God season on following let's play swear to God let's play let's play swear to
God swear to God I have to do it swear to God season on following on Instagram okay and he just
recently started following you too what's your point we just we just playing a game oh shit you
got all that ish yo why you don't want to play Swear to God?
I don't have to do that to tell the truth.
Swear to God you don't want none of his doors.
Is she opportunity when he sees one?
I figured ish out.
I figured ish out and ish is my man, so I don't want to expose him.
I'm all ears.
Go ahead.
Oh, shit.
I'm giving you the...
Listen, I went home
and had to try to figure out
why you won't just,
you know,
really get to it.
Get to what?
And I figured it out.
Get to coming in here
and lending your real estate
expertise to what may
or may not really be going on.
I have done that.
I don't think you've done it
to the best of your ability.
No, you just want me
to be dirty in that.
Not dirty.
Don't do shit.
Messy.
Wow, wow, wow.
Yeah, I have done that.
It's a small community.
I have given my opinion on what took place.
Okay, well, I know you said that.
On several platforms.
No, no, no, no.
When I went home, I received that,
but when I went home, it wasn't acceptable to me.
That's the thing. Think a little to me. That's the thing.
Think a little bit more.
That's the thing.
When I go home, I get to think through some of the shit that'd be happening.
So I was like, hmm, how and why could this be happening?
And then, jinkies.
Then what was?
Jinkies.
That's Scooby-Doo.
Caesar is going to have to liquidate.
Like, for the next 17 years.
Buy or sell.
Oh, yeah.
All 2,000 doors.
Everything's going down.
And at some point, he going to need some funds.
Some point being that.
Go all the way. And when he does, there may be someone else in that field with a couple dollars
that likes doors.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Hey!
Now, if that were to happen,
are you, swear to God,
that you would turn
that person away?
Never.
Never what? Please be clear.
I would not turn that away.
If I had an opportunity to pick up a deal, I'm taking the deal.
Talk about it.
There we go.
Insane.
That's it.
That's it.
Got nothing.
That's it.
That's not got nothing.
Fam, that's not why.
Burned them muffins.
Burned them shit.
Crunchy ass muffins.
Yeah, crunch.
That's not why I'm not speaking on a nigga's business like that.
Do you guys have mutual friends? Nah, not that I'm not speaking on a nigga's business like that. Do you guys have mutual friends?
Nah, not that I know of.
Okay.
I'm saying, again, we both from New Jersey,
and the real estate community is kind of small.
Yes.
So I'm sure somewhere along the lines we got some common... Cross paths.
Yeah.
I never crossed paths with him.
I never did no business with him.
But I'm sure in this small community...
You got to come up with this.
So when he followed you, it wasn't-
And maybe he'll be at the real estate mixer next year.
Maybe.
When he followed you, it didn't mean anything, right?
Oh, he just followed me.
Did you get a little excited?
Not at all.
Okay.
With that first DM.
He's going to get some of them doors.
I don't know what the first DM said.
He's getting some of them doors.
We've never DM'd each other.
Be careful.
We're in the feds watching. Did you follow him back? No. Okay. Why not? I don to know the first D.S. He getting some of them doors. We've never D.M.ed each other. Be careful. We're in the feds watching.
Did you follow him back?
No.
Okay.
Why not?
I don't know.
Mel, why you don't follow the guys?
Oh, my.
Wait.
How is it?
Hold on.
Did he just turn the goddamn cannons?
We ain't going to let him just get that off.
No, you still don't follow us.
Do you follow me?
No.
There.
Okay.
Wait, you don't follow Mel?
No.
Should we do this all right now?
I'm not following Mel because you don't follow me. Oh, see. It's a? No. Should we do this all right now? I'm not following Mel
because she don't follow me.
Oh, see.
It's a standoff.
That's true.
Yeah.
That's petty.
It is.
Back up.
What were y'all saying?
He said he ain't follow Ceaser
because he don't know him.
That's your reason?
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
So you don't follow anybody
that you don't know?
Ish is under the weather.
Ish is under the weather.
Ish is under the weather.
Ish is under the weather.
Ish is under the weather.
Ish is under the weather.
Ish is under the weather.
I never see muffins get burnt back to back.
Stop playing my man.
Look at me.
Ish is a retired street nigga.
He knows what's going on.
He said, yo, nigga, you ain't going to have the fans looking at my doors.
You hot right now.
Fixed grease.
I might block you, nigga.
Stay on my page.
Fuck out of here.
What's on DMing me and shit like that?
I'm going to get into the street, nigga.
He saw that following.
He said, hold up.
He stared at that shit for like three hours. One day, he went to the street, nigga. He saw that follow. He said, hold up. He stared at that shit
for like three hours.
And the nigga got some
heat on him, nigga.
He tried to,
yo, I can give you
some other people
over there, too.
He tried to start DMing me.
Don't talk to me.
Feds don't play, son.
Word.
That's the only part
that the live don't make sense.
The feds don't play.
They don't.
But he ain't say nothing
on that live.
That was incriminating.
I'm not going on that live.
No, he didn't, bro.
I think, I think.
I was entertained by the live.
When I watched his live, to me, that nigga was telling the truth.
He said a lot of shit that sounded like, yo, I did some fuck shit, but it's a bunch of
other motherfuckers out here that's doing some fuck shit now.
Yeah, that's jumping on the bandwagon.
That doesn't mean you're innocent.
No, I ain't say he was innocent.
I said it just sounded like he told the truth.
Like, you know when you, uh...
I don't even want to bring certain shit up.
Is that ring my bell?
I said you good.
Nah, like, you know certain shit.
You real good.
Hey, hey, we got it, big dog.
Hey, they gonna ring your bell.
Ring your bell.
Oh, no, no. He got nervous.
Yo, that nigga started texting somebody.
He started texting his lawyer.
Oh, shit.
You crazy.
All right, so we figured it.
They got us.
Yeah, nah.
We got it.
We got it.
We got it.
Nigga's an idiot, yo.
Oh, shit.
Are there any other takeaways from Cesar's life
other than he's holding Envy down
and he has no problem going to do the time?
That's what I took from it.
I took that he's trying to preserve a relationship
so when he comes home, he could, you know,
Envy, I held you down.
You know what I mean?
He could still have that gateway,
that door open, running
back. Yeah.
Respect.
And maybe Envy, no, no. Envy really ain't doing anything and, you know. Yeah.
Okay. So.
Ceaser. Pizza, pizza. Salute.
Caesar pizza pizza
salute
Caesar man
what a piece of shit
you a piece of shit
I ain't gonna lie to you
you didn't laugh at all
when you watched that
yeah I laughed
but I have a warped
sense of humor
like if I'm laughing
it ain't right
something ain't
something is not right
alright seem like y'all all tapped out of the something ain't something is not right alright
seem like y'all
all tapped out of the
Envy and Caesar conversation
yeah
we kinda are
alright it's cool
it's cool
what else is going on
what else is happening
in the wonderful world of
this world is shot to shit
it really is
this world is shot to shit
it's bad out there
I don't wanna
I don't wanna to get sad.
I'm trying not to look at shit because, like you said, you can get sad, start thinking
about fucked up shit going on in the world, man.
I mean, Dwight Howard, man, he's standing in his shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Literally?
He's standing in his literally.
I mean, I just, I feel a little, it feels a little strange.
Why?
Not his sexuality.
That's on him.
Park's ready to get you.
The story was crazy to me.
You know what I mean?
You met a man on Instagram, and then when you got met up to have sex,
you try to run a train on him.
Yo.
You try to bring another person in.
That's what happened?
You try to bring another person in,
try to introduce another person without the guy's knowledge.
Like, yo, big dog.
Here go another big dog.
We go have a kennel.
We go take it to the pound town.
Yo, Dwight, you can't do that.
You can't do that.
You can't just surprisingly try to run a train on a nigga.
That's not necessarily a train.
What is that, gangbang?
I almost want to ask Mel to leave the room if we're going to get in there.
No, no, no, go ahead.
It's a caboose.
Go ahead, go ahead.
Are you sure you good with this?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Have at it.
Go ahead.
Let's go.
First off, it's wrong to do that, to have someone pop out.
Out the closet.
Unbeknownst to you.
Right, hey.
Pop out the closet.
Two for one.
That's wrong.
It is.
Absolutely wrong.
You cannot do that.
But them popping out the closet don't necessarily mean a train is about to happen.
It's orgy.
Threesome.
Threesome.
Those are the options.
Or somebody's doing the warrior thing.
That's true.
Or somebody's doing the warrior thing.
Watching, watching.
Got it.
Those, to me, are the three options
that can come from the pop-out.
Pause.
Four ways of walking.
A train, the orgy, threesome, whatever they're doing, or the voyeurism.
Listen, the nigga said he was uncomfortable.
He ain't know.
He ain't leave.
Oh, shit.
Is he alleging that he couldn't leave, though?
You victim blaming?
Sounds alone.
You mom and dad.
You victim blaming. Can you answer him, please? I just want to hear what the answer was. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. Blame me? Sound alone. You mom's ass.
Can you answer him, please?
I just want to hear what the answer was.
No, I'm not.
No, I'm not.
Good answer.
So you acknowledge that he's a victim?
No, no, I'm not.
I don't know what took place in that room.
My man could be out here trying to get some bread.
That's very different from he didn't leave, I feel you.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, Dwight Howard, I get it.
You're standing in your shit, pause.
And on top of that, you're letting the people know to mind their business. But it gets
a little tricky when you involve
a third party
into a situation that
the guy that you were sleeping with didn't know.
I love Mace's commentary on this.
Mace was like, it's not consensual
if it's a surprise.
Yes, you surprising me.
Hey, yo, big dog.
Hey, hold on.
Stay right here.
Lay right here.
I got something for you.
Nigga, he probably thought you was going to throw bread on him.
Nigga, you brought a whole nother nigga in the room.
He bought a bun.
Yo, you on a roll.
Speaking of buns.
That thing is hilarious.
Come on, get all y'all
out of the way now.
No.
Why you gotta do that, man?
Damn, Joe.
You taking wet shit
on our fucking...
This nigga is different, bro.
I have a few questions
for the LGBTQIA plus community.
Community.
I do. Okay. I do.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Let me cue up the ledge, man.
We ain't had the ledge in a while.
Oh, shit.
Hold on, man.
We been safe?
It been a while, man.
You got the ledge on him?
Yeah, it been a while.
It's been a while, man.
Fuck it.
I thought about this it I thought about
this I thought about this one long and hard if I wanted to come on the topic
speaking of things being long and hard I got enough to go around. Pause. And the door takes place. What is going on?
Hey, Rakim.
That was the best opening line for this topic.
Oh, man.
He gonna play it again.
Okay, two.
Because why you won't chill out?
Parks won't chill out.
Sip the juice. All right, that's all we need. Why you won't chill out
Listen The community I have to ask y'all
Why do y'all act like
there's nobody in y'all community
that could be doing
a shady, scammy stick-up
and hiding it behind
fucking all of the gay rights shit?
True.
That's a good one.
This nigga shady.
What's his name, Kitty? I do, i'm not gonna call him that that's no kitty's not kitty the other kitty is the white's friend okay okay
kitty was the dude that popped out yeah person yeah yes person yeah but this dude is shady. Dwight, 100 percent. Well, 99. Let me not try to get sued.
Dwight definitely hit dude on the late night. We done did these calls before. Yo, come through.
I'm having a friend come through. He said that. So what?
So the pop out is not really a surprise because I told you that somebody was coming through the door at some point.
because I told you that somebody was coming through the door at some point.
This is all Joe Budden speculation, by the way.
No, when we first covered the DMs. When they released the DMs.
That was in there.
The dude that's alleging that Dwight sexually abused him,
that was in the DMs.
It was.
I remember that months ago.
I told you somebody was coming through here.
Granted, you didn't know the exact time that they were coming through the door.
But it's not a total shocker.
We get freaky on this side.
It sounds like I'm hitting the people that understand that we get freaky on this side.
We haven't explained that shit when your girl want to go through your phone.
Yo, dog, I'm talking to the people that understand that we get freaky on this side, yo.
I ain't talking to normal people.
We get freaky.
So he called his freak circle.
And that nigga showed up like the freaks do with the overnight bag.
He came right there.
He ain't wasting no fucking time.
This look, it does.
I mean, when you look at it all together it does look like the dude
is trying to pull it he's pulling a move a fast one he's pulling a move yeah now that's not to
say that dwight howard has not done something egregious at some point i don't know his sexual
history there are other people with the same claims that hey this guy targets young guys at sex parties.
That's out there.
That's out there.
That's in the world.
I never heard that.
He's got another victim.
He's got another alleged victim that says, hey, when I told this story, y'all laughed at me.
But Kitty was involved in my story, too.
And he exposed
whatever he exposed. So you're saying that
Dwight and Kitty are a tag team?
We get freaky
together. Too Wong Fu.
So Dwight is on a
press run for something. I don't know what he's on a
press run for. I was going to ask,
is it just a press run in
defense of himself?
Just saying that these niggas know what's up when he rolling up.
And it's strange because he's literally-
Mr. Dwight Hopp.
Go ahead.
Man, let's give a loud hand clap for Mr. Dwight Hopp.
Now, you're going viral, bro.
When podcasters say now-
So I just got to ask for the people.
Me personally, I don't give a fuck.
And when they qualify with their opinion before the question- Are you gay, bro? Is this what you want to talk about? No, I don't want to fuck. And when they qualify with their opinion before the question?
Are you gay, bro?
Is this what you want to talk about?
No, I don't want to talk about that, bro.
That is what you want to talk about.
Because you went viral for that, bro.
I've been viral for a lot of things.
And I want to talk about that, too.
No, you didn't.
What I do in my personal life is nobody fucking business.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I just want you to answer that.
I keep going.
It's nobody business.
Right.
And if you inquire why why because that was just talking about other people why oh not for me i don't
give a bro i want to talk basketball i want to talk other but they want to say pr you
just didn't do your job this is part of the job the part of the job right people you
know saying it's stupid i don't give a really let's talk about something else
i ain't gonna hold you y'all lucky that dwight not aggressive that's a dangerous question that's that's that i wouldn't ask that question to him i would ask that to someone shorter than him
small 100 percent jacked yeah somebody that ain't been doing three-man weeds for 30 years
I'm deuce jacked Yeah somebody that
Fucking ain't been doing
Three man weeds for 30 years
I don't know about
Let's ask those type of questions
You did
Oh shit
Bro
Three man weeds
Y'all
Yeah
I'm good
Give and go
That was a mistake
Yeah
Or give and keep
Cause he ain't let him go
Get a dunk at the end
Oh come on
Come on
Just like
You can't ask those questions man I learned my lesson From asking a question Like that on a podcast And what happened Oh, come on. Come on. Just like that.
You can't ask those questions, man.
I learned my lesson from asking a question like that on a podcast.
And I lost the situation.
You know what I'm saying?
You can't ask them.
That's the only reason he's up there.
I agree, but you can't ask somebody.
I thought.
What team is he on?
He on like the Shanghai Warriors.
Seagulls or some shit.
The War cats.
I was never really down with somebody pop out of the closet culture.
That's a weird one.
That was a thing in the 90s.
It was.
Especially with the Dickinson High School girls.
What's that?
They was freaks.
What's pop out the closet culture?
Like have someone.
Do I have a shit?
Like have someone waiting.
Yeah, have somebody surprise. The surprise threesome.
Oh, that closet. I know. Yeah, it's surprise. The surprise threesome. Oh, that clock.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, it's weird.
That was a thing?
Yeah.
That was a thing.
It was.
Had your man waiting in the closet.
He's watching.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I wasn't the guy that,
I got invited to maybe two trains.
And they never invited me again to the train.
Did you hug her or something?
Did you leave or you became the conductor, nigga?
The train was a difficult concept to grasp for me
in my teenage years.
A lot of things that men learn about sex from other men,
that was tough for me to grasp young.
You know how men get peer pressured into just
maybe being over sexualized too soon or how you treat a woman or how you view a woman that's true
or you know the amount of bodies you get that does something for you some of that stuff in my
teenage years that never resonated with me. What was the hardest thing
to unlearn?
About sex?
Well, I didn't learn
some of that.
I didn't learn
some of that stuff.
But what was like an ideal
that was like kind of
pushed on you
as young men
that you were,
as adults,
you're like,
no, that was some bullshit.
The more the better.
You gotta fuck everything.
The more the better.
The whole culture. Another thing gotta, the more the better. That's a whole culture.
But another thing is,
like,
careful.
No,
like beating it up
is just the greatest thing
in the world.
It is not.
And a lot of women
don't like that.
No we fuck.
But as young men,
we learn that.
Like,
yo,
when they screaming
and you fucking them
real,
real hard.
We ain't know how to fuck.
That,
that,
that,
that is good.
Like,
you learn that from the street.
We didn't really know about, like, pleasuring another person's body. That's good. Like, you learn that from the street. We didn't really know
about, like,
pleasuring another person's body.
That's not necessarily what,
yeah.
So some women do like that,
but not a lot of women
don't like that.
Yeah, the main thing
was everybody different.
That's really what it was.
Like, what worked for her
might not work for her.
Like, you think,
all right, yeah,
I know, I got it now.
Then you go do it over here.
You got to get in tune with them.
As far as the train,
I didn't understand them trying to make me be the last man.
That was in the first train.
The first train, I had to pull my dude friends to the side.
Hold on, hold on.
Let's go back to the first train first.
Come on.
Were you the last man? Did you go through with it? No. Okay. I went in there and talked to the first train first. Come on. So they made you be the, were you the last man?
Like, did you go through with it?
No.
Oh, okay.
I went in there and talked to the girl.
We know.
I know you did.
And did you ask her how she felt
about the whole situation?
Yeah, I did.
I was like,
I'm not going to do this, man.
I'm going to get up.
Oh, okay, okay.
That puts you to add enough.
Like, I'm fine.
Like, I ain't,
this big bitch ain't about
to get me hard no way.
Like, that's the thing. They were so excited for this big bitch ain't about to get me hard no way like that's the thing
they were so excited
for this big
freedom looking
this was a big girl
nothing wrong with that
but that wasn't
that wasn't my bag
at 15
big girls
like I could go get
a good looking girl
why are we in here
all huddled up
and my mom's
damn my mom might not
even know about that
like we don't have to do that
and then the next train,
because they knew about the last train,
they tried to make me be first.
And no.
I don't want all you niggas coming in
after I get my little groove.
I, I, I, I, I, no, no.
And they was trying to rush me.
I went in there first.
But I start talking a little bit.
You start talking.
I start talking.
I start talking. You better shut up. talking. I start talking. I start talking.
You better shut up.
You can't say nothing to me about talking.
Yo, you get to it.
I got in there and started talking.
They in there banging on the door.
Hey.
Hurry up.
Yeah.
I'm trying to get to know her.
Yo, how long you need?
I ought to curse your eyes out, too.
That's not cool.
Bro, when you 15, 16, you do a lot of dumb shit just because you heard it was cool to do.
You do a lot of stupid shit just for experience.
I've never been part of a fun train.
I never was with the train, culture period.
I don't like to share, truthfully.
Yeah, I want mine.
Unless we're going to share.
Because you'll be making love.
You'll be kissing them and all that.
This ain't what a switch when we used to do our thing.
You fucking.
That shit.
Yo, bro, don't start your shit, bro.
It's cool.
You try to eradicate it from your past.
You try to be this distinguished author.
You're not this distinguished.
Don't try it with me.
Do that with the new people you meet.
No, you said I ain't want to switch.
Nigga, that's your cuffing ass, Cuffy Combs.
Yeah, don't start.
Don't start. If you say that again, I'm going to bazooka you, burn you. I'm going Combs. Yeah. Don't start. Don't start.
If you say that again, I'm going to bazooka you, burn you.
I'm going to burn your muffin.
You can't.
No, I know you're lying.
Why?
Because you, oh, that's going to sound shady.
I'm going to fry you up.
I'm ready.
Let me try to find a way to do that.
That nigga knows too much shit about each other, man.
I'm ready.
I'm going to fry you up.
That's what this podcast is supposed to be built off of.
But people come here and try to work on their new brand.
I'm going to fry you up.
That's all I'm telling you.
People come in as one thing, and then when it's time to get,
they get here and suddenly become brand conscient.
Spell that.
Yeah.
Damn.
That's a tough one.
You want to do the spelling bee?
That's a tough one.
I didn't do the spelling bee last time.
Of course.
Because I was doing the words.
Yeah, of course.
But y'all would have to have words for me
if we do the spelling bee.
Melissa, what?
Melissa and Chet.
Conscientious is a tough one.
Conscientious.
That's a fucking tough one.
I have to say something.
I can't spell that fucking code.
MC's be fucking me up.
Guys, I have to say something as one of the.
I could give it a shot, though.
Don't try me.
Hold up.
I have to say something that's C.
I don't even know if I can put it into my phone right.
It's C. It's C-O-N, right?
Mm-hmm.
Nah, that's with the she-ins.
She-ins is normally a S-C.
I can't even spell this shit.
That's the S-C-I.
I'm proper.
Uh-oh.
Finito.
Eye of Rome?
The eye of Rome?
No.
Oh, so you you say I'm done
from here right now
yeah right there
you can spell it
conscientious
yeah
oh I thought you
were saying like
you knew he spelled
something wrong or something
nah nah nah
he good
I'm right so far
C-O-N-S-C-I-entious
that sounds like
E-N
conscientious.
I'm done after this.
The g-in-cious?
Now you moving on?
The g-in-cious.
The other part at the end.
That's easy at the end.
S-C-I-E-N-C.
No.
S-C.
No.
Two S-C's is weird.
T.
Oh, I'm out of here. T-U-O- S-C. No. Two S-C's is weird. T. Oh, I'm out of here.
T-U-O-U-S.
No.
T-I-O-U-S.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right, we will not be doing this spelling bee.
Not if you want to be one of the bees.
Yo.
Your thoughts.
But wait, but I tell y'all, listen, I want to spell and be 24 and 96.
Why the fuck do y'all niggas keep doing that, bro?
I want to say something, nigga.
I'm sorry.
What the fuck?
You want to spell some shit?
No, I want to talk from the loser that got kicked out of the train because I gave a bitch a hickey.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, I wanted to get that out because I know niggas going to attack me online.
Like, nigga, when you were in the train with us, nigga, you was kissing that bitch in the mouth and giving her a hickey.
Oh, shit.
I was the loser that did that, bro.
We got some, yeah.
You kissed her in the mouth, like, mid-train?
And you gave her a hickey.
That bitch was bad.
Where was you at in the train?
She was fire.
And where was you at in the order?
I was like, third, nigga.
Oh, shit.
I don't give a fuck.
I was a loser.
Bad dicks on the neck, and you just flip for it.
I gave her a hickey.
The nigga came to me.
I got to ask you a question.
Sure.
That bitch was fire, nigga. Flames. Where'd you give her a hickey at? On her neck. Can to ask you a question. Sure.
The bitch was fire, nigga. Flames.
Where'd you give her a hickey at?
On her neck.
Can I ask you a question?
Sure.
Why you sucking on the train girl neck?
She was too bad, sir.
I ain't mad at that.
She was too bad to be there.
I'm mad at the tongue kissing, though.
Not a tongue kiss, sir.
You just said I was kissing in her mouth.
I kissed in her mouth.
You ain't kiss on her neck and not try
to put your tongue in her mouth.
You're lying.
You're lying.
You're lying right now. First of all, first of all, no That's a lie. You're lying. You're lying right now.
You did not go like this.
First of all, no, you didn't.
You're lying.
Get the fuck out of here.
No, you didn't.
I don't give a fuck I didn't.
I was a freak shit.
No, you didn't.
I was a freak shit.
What?
She was piping them niggas first?
I don't know.
Yeah.
My nigga telling the truth.
And know what's nasty about you, too?
Like, you was giving hickeys on the neck,
and I know you tried to work your fat ass way up,
and you started sucking on her jaw line.
I wasn't fat then, you bitch ass nigga.
I wasn't fat.
I was slim.
You tried to fucking suck on her chin before you got to her mouth.
And you tried to point your tongue up from her chin.
Nigga, you was in there giving bitches therapy, nigga,
during their sessions, nigga.
Yeah, get out of here. That's my bad. That is my bad. Nigga came out here and flipped. bitches therapy, nigga, during their sessions. Yeah, get out of here.
That's my bag.
That is my bag.
Nigga came out,
you gave my bitch a hickey?
Yes, I did.
Flip, spell luscious.
Wait, that was somebody's chin.
I think so.
Spell luscious.
Spell luscious.
I don't know how to spell.
You don't know how to spell luscious?
No.
Try it.
Don't call him stupid.
I never.
Hell, you, come on, stop.
I don't know how to spell.
Go ahead.
I don't want to spell luscious.. Hell, you... Come on, stop. I don't know how to spell it. Go ahead. I don't... You're part of the way there.
I don't want to spell luscious.
All right, spell C-O-E.
Dwight, cut that freak shit out, man.
Cut that out.
You is too tall to be doing that shit that you're doing,
and it's crazy.
Biting his fingernails and all that extra shit he was doing,
the antics?
He's doing a lot.
What?
I think he be... I think those shots be at you.
Not you, but at the pod.
What shots?
No, no, that's to everybody.
Everyone.
Oh, no.
He don't hear everyone.
He hear, they be hearing.
When it come to Joe, nigga,
it seem like the podcast word gets out faster
than all them comments.
What'd he say?
Nah, it was like a TikTok that he did
or something like that
where he's sitting at a keyboard in a closet
because there's a lot of shoes behind him and stuff.
And the caption said something about
how people expect me to be responding to the comments
and he's like banging on the keyboard.
No, to haters and comments, yes.
Or to haters and the comments.
Sorry, thank you.
And he's like banging on the keyboard
and kind of bugging out.
You know, and it was sped up.
And so, yeah, I don't think that that was to podcasters.
Yeah, that might be everybody.
I think it was just, I think it was everybody.
He said a couple of things too.
What'd he say?
He did a video on the stairs like, yo, where I put my dick at or what I do is nobody's business.
He was saying a couple of shit.
He did a couple of TikToks
and reels.
And then went on a podcast.
And then went on a podcast, yes.
Yeah.
To express himself.
Tell us truth.
And then the internet
is finding all the old videos
of Dwight Howard
on the NBA benches
talking on niggas' dicks
in their crotch.
Oh, shit.
Come on, man, Joe.
That's enough. No, no, that's true. He shouldn't have been doing that shit on the NBA benches, tugging on niggas' dicks in their crotch. Oh, shit. Come on, man, Joe. That's enough.
No, no, that's true.
He shouldn't have been doing that shit on the NBA benches.
He was on some wild shit.
Like, he was horny on the bench.
That's right.
Wait, wait.
What?
His videos are due walking over to sit down on the bench,
and like it's a player sitting right next to him,
he reach in, grab his meat, pause while he's sitting down.
What are you talking about?
Come on, man.
I'm not making that up.
You know he's not making that up
because that's what we all would do
if we was gay in the NBA.
No.
Yes, it is what we would do.
That is exactly what we would do.
That's what you would do
if you was gay.
Grabbed him by the dick?
But y'all crucified Trump
when he said grabbed him by the pussy.
But it's okay for this nigga to do that?
Hey, yo, dawg, if I'm straight and we sitting on a bench and you just got 30 and you came over and grabbed my dick, I'm going to punch you in your motherfucking eyeball.
What position do you play?
It is.
What position do you play?
What if you not straight?
Oh, stumped, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
Give him a nice, give him a nice.
Out for me. Out for me.
Out for me.
What?
Just running around grabbing niggas' penises, bro, on the bench?
If I was in the NBA, I would be gay thug.
I would be a gay thug, nigga.
Come here, nigga.
Come on, I'm walking you over to the jacuzzi.
What is it?
And I would pronounce that shit the jack-oozy. Oh, shit. Come on, I'm walking you over to the jacuzzi. And I will pronounce that shit the jacuzzi.
Oh, shit.
Hey, old boy.
Hey, come walk me to the jacuzzi real quick.
You know what I'm like niggas do?
I walk some of these niggas in the private spot.
Out the camera's view, right?
Come on.
You know how to do it.
Come on.
Gay thugs.
I'll be the gay thugging these niggas sending some gay shit.
Don't post me up, bro.
God, okay.
The Newark boys look perturbed right now.
Which, if you know the history of Newark,
no.
Hey, are you good?
I want to tell you about the history of Newark
so bad, man.
Tell me.
Joe made up a history of Newark.
Oh.
So he made it up,
he did one of his shits again?
Yeah, of course. You serious? a history of North. Oh. So he made it up. He did one of his shits again. Yeah, of course.
You serious?
Absolutely.
No, he did.
Don't start your shit, bro.
It's the male strip club capital of the world, right?
Definitely of New Jersey.
1,000% the male strip club capital of New Jersey.
For underground.
I don't know of no male strip clubs in New York.
Just two weeks ago, all of us here said,
we know, we have friends, male strippers that are friends.
Club Cayenne was Irvington.
Those male strippers were from where?
That was Irvington.
Same shit.
That ain't helping your case.
Oh, shit.
Y'all's guys are nutcase, man.
And none of my niggas, them niggas was getting money.
They was getting money?
They was getting money.
I don't know why y'all act like it wasn't a thing.
No, I know a few of them niggas, they was getting money.
Some of them niggas went to high school with me.
They was getting money, money.
I know some of them male stripper niggas
that had a 10, 15-year run of packing out
whatever the normal strip clubs did during the pandemic.
They've been doing that since 99.
Underground spots.
Underground spots that don't nobody know about.
It's not promoted.
My fucking lusty-ass baby mama at the time.
Anytime we used to have a fight
back in 2000.
She hit the strip club.
99.
That was her back.
She was older than me.
That's where you learned this?
Your behavior from.
Now it's coming out.
That's that therapy.
Ain't that what they get?
Down to the bottom.
You don't believe in therapy.
Don't do that.
I don't.
That's what I'm saying.
Ain't that what they do to y'all? You don't believe in therapy. Don't do that. I know. That's what I'm saying. Ain't that what they do to y'all?
You don't believe in therapy
until we start talking about dads up here.
I don't believe in the dad.
Then his little lips start quivering.
Okay.
I don't believe in the dad.
Come on, man.
That's the farthest thing from my bag.
Then that little eye,
that little hazel eye get to.
Oh, man.
That's the farthest thing from my bag.
I don't like that.
I'm lying. No. We was talking about fathers. That thing from my bag. I don't like that. I'm lying?
No.
We used to talk about father,
that nigga be like,
I don't need none of that shit.
Bruh, that's the farthest thing from my bag.
Therapy is ass.
That's for y'all to...
Now you want...
Act like you crazy.
I'm farthest thing from it.
Playing my man.
Stop.
The funny thing is
the niggas that believe
in therapy
still be fucked up
what is it doing for y'all
doing the work
what work
what work
I'm not
all these niggas
that believe in therapy
he's willing to step out
and let you shit on therapy
you don't even shoot
that shit on a dock
y'all niggas be fucked up
even more
he's still going
he's still going
that's fact
if you can
if you can say one thing out there to the people in therapy, what would you say?
Get your money back.
Oh, wow.
You heard it first, right, Dan?
That's a scam?
I'm asking you.
Therapy is a scam, but not what Caesar's doing.
Yo, you are a special case.
Yo, this is about to get nasty.
Why you let my man say that?
What?
No, that's my man.
He can say what he want.
He can say what he want.
That's my nigga.
He's too smart for therapy.
Everybody's not as smart as you is.
You want to go in there intelligent off the therapist?
You was arguing with yours?
I always argue, man.
You can't just tell me anything.
We have to sort through it. I anything. We have to sort through it.
I know.
We got to sort through it.
Together.
Yeah.
And that's a debate team tactic, right?
I learned that from you.
Argue the other side.
To the therapist.
So why would I not?
To the therapist.
How do I shift through?
How do I filter through if she or he knows what they talking about if I don't try to debunk some of that shit?
The therapist fucked me up when they was like,
hey, you beat your kids, that's from slavery.
I was like, holy shit.
Let me go back to school.
Them degrees is beating me now.
They won.
They won that one.
That was the one I lost.
What did they say?
I'm about to turn up now.
Say it again.
Run that back one more time.
Does anybody want to help me?
He said, the therapist said, beating your kids stems from slavery.
Get your money back.
Nigga, what?
Get your money back, nigga.
You don't agree with that?
Not at all.
Not at all.
Not at all.
I don't agree with that.
I do believe in spanking your child of your child. So where did agree with that? You don't believe that? Not at all. Not at all. Not at all. I don't agree with that. I do believe in, you know,
spanking your child of your child.
So where did we learn that?
Where did we learn to beat people into obedience?
Well...
Let me ask you a question.
I wasn't a slave, so I have, you know,
my grandparents, my great-grandparents...
Oh, that's black elitism.
Let me ask you a question.
No, I wouldn't know where we learned that.
I just learned it from my mom,
and she probably learned it from her mom.
And I learned it from my dad.
If you continue to go back,
you know where you end up at?
So the white people that beat their kids.
Or the people that beat their kids prior to slavery.
Yeah.
Or the slave masters.
Where they learned it from?
In the castle.
I don't know if y'all are being serious.
Nah, I'm asking.
So it's too true.
This sounds so silly that it sounds rhetorical to me.
Are you asking me where the slave masters learned to beat people?
When King Richard punched King Joseph in the face.
Like, sometimes you need to use physical violence or physical force in order to encourage obedience.
Exactly.
Or to teach a motherfucker a lesson.
That's what you're saying.
Yes.
Sometimes a nigga need to get slapped.
Bam.
He be trying to set a nigga up.
Go ahead.
He said that.
I know he did.
You don't agree with me?
Sometimes you don't agree?
Hey, hung girl dads?
No, but it's a little bit different with your daughter.
I was asking this.
It's a little bit different with your daughter.
It gets tricky.
It do.
It's a little bit different.
Oh, we getting tricky.
It does get different with girls.
When you have girl children that, you know.
Are you going to beat your kid into being obedient?
No.
Ice?
No, not beat them into being obedient.
I'm not going to ask for it. I don't have kids. I didn't beat my beat them into being obedient. I'm not going to ask Farris because I don't have kids.
I didn't beat my daughter.
That's not why I'm not asking.
Let me ask you.
My question just was.
I've never beat my kids.
Before slavery, when people used to beat their kids, then what was it based on?
Well, first you have to prove to me that people were beating their kids before slavery.
Come on, Joe. You ever read a book from the 1500s? Here we go. No, nigga. And there was
slavery before the American slave trade too. Wait, you heard that bitch?
Hey, your little author shit don't work. No, I ain't read none of the Malcolm Brogdon books you read.
You ever read a book from the 1500s?
Why would I do that?
I had bitches my whole life. Oh, shit.
From the 1500s.
Says the nigga that walked in there trying to get therapy to the chick that was on the train.
How did you get that book?
What library you went to?
Nigga, Shakespeare books was before slavery. There's mad books that was on the train. How did you get that book? What library you went to? Nigga, Shakespeare books
was before slavery.
There's mad books
that was out before slavery.
Yeah, but you could tell
Shakespeare was white.
He's a reader.
I don't know.
So you was reading the books,
but you don't know
if he's white.
No, there's people
that said he's black.
Literally.
Yeah, there is.
So you didn't read
any other book?
Like, you didn't go
further than that?
What are you talking about, man?
I gave you an example of books that was written before slavery.
Yeah but I want to know more about the author. William Shakespeare? So you just read
shit from anybody. With Shakespeare, white or black? Oh, you don't know? I'm not reading a book from him.
Oh you only read black books? No, I want to know about the person publishing the
words. Really?
For sure, for sure.
Why?
What do you mean why?
Because people can't just say words, nigga.
Who is you?
So the therapist can say whatever they want.
No, we started this with I try to debunk the therapist.
I know, but- I'm consistent in what I'm saying.
So why would I go give some money to a motherfucker that you don't know their history?
You don't know who the therapist and what their walk of life was prior to giving them a dollar?
But you could find out.
Everyone should find a therapist that's compatible with them. You don't know who the therapist and what their walk of life was prior to giving them a dollar. But you could find out. Everyone should find a therapist
that's compatible with them.
You don't know that they're compatible with you
based on their degrees.
You have to speak to people.
Or you have to do your due diligence.
The same way I'm asking you,
is Shakespeare one of the black?
So how do we know that the therapist
is going to tell the truth?
Yeah.
What was Shakespeare's favorite hobbies?
I don't know.
Favorite color?
He was around at 15.
But how do you know the therapist?
Was he a hoe?
Was he faithful?
I don't know. Was he abusive? Don't know. Favorite color? He was around at 15. How you know? But how you know that they're- Was he a hoe? Was he faithful? I don't know.
Was he abusive?
Don't know.
I'm not just taking the people-
So the messenger matters more than the message?
What if he putting some profound shit in what he writing?
But because you don't know his history or his background, you ignore the message?
That discounts the message?
No, the message is always important.
Okay.
The message is always important.
Gotcha.
But after you get to the message, I want to know more about the nigga that sent it.
All right, but you just dismissed it
when he said Slay the Jigsaw.
Yeah, yeah.
Muffin, man.
Yeah.
Ice just crashed you.
It crashed you.
He tapped you out.
He tapped you out.
He hit you with the icicles, nigga.
I don't take it.
He hit you with the icicles, nigga.
Throw them icicles at that nigga.
He tapped you out.
All right, we done with Dwight Howard.
What else is popping?
What else is popping out here?
I ain't going to fuck you up.
Huh?
You said what?
Dwight ain't going to fuck you up.
For what?
Talking to him like that, nigga.
He watch.
I mean, he watch, but I didn't disrespect the nigga.
I mean, I just feel like, man, I agree with him.
Whatever happens in this bedroom is his bedroom.
But when you out here doing salacious activities
and trying to incorporate kitties or cats in a room where somebody don't know.
I wish that nigga would say something to me. Say something else, nigga. I'll go to the
trunk. I'll go to the trunk.
Oh, you know some more shit.
Get that uncircumcised.
Yo.
Yo, yo, Joe, come on, man.
Hey, I'll go right to the trunk, nigga.
You got that in your trunk?
Why is that in the trunk?
I'll have it if he say something.
What?
That's weird, bro.
I'll have it if he say, I'm going to get the strap.
I'm going to get the strap.
And you're not talking about the hammer?
Not at all.
No.
I ain't talking about the hammer.
I ain't talking about the hammer.
But there's going to be some banging going on.
He be going to pound something out.
There's going to be some banging going on.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
What's up?
Y'all letting him get away with this salacious thing?
I'm ignoring him.
You want to take it from him? Yes, man. I'm ignoring him.
You want to take it from him?
I ain't going to fight that nigga.
That nigga said he's going to get the strap on.
Yo, nigga, what are you up here talking about while I'm up here, nigga?
You gave me your word.
What are you doing?
Oh, man, yo.
This guy is crazy.
Y'all want to talk music?
Y'all want to talk Halloween?
Music or Halloween?
Pick one.
Halloween.
Halloween.
Mel, what you going to be for Halloween?
Since you're sexier than us.
Might as well ask you.
You already freed the nipple on your Instagram page.
And we know you outside.
And your co-host made it bigger.
What?
We enlarged the picture.
I had to see if you was bugging like that.
Listen.
What happened?
I'll show you.
I did not know. No, no,'ll show you. I did not know.
No, no, let Melissa tell.
I did not know.
I was wearing a tank top
at an event
and I didn't know
that you could see,
kind of see my nipples
through it.
If you're not wearing
the brasier.
Well, yeah,
it didn't really work
with the outfit.
But also,
like, there was a lot
of flashes going on,
so.
So you flashed back.
Yeah, I just flashed back.
Yeah.
So what are you going to be for Halloween?
So is that a part of your brand now?
Oh, my God.
Free the nipple.
Listen, I wasn't thinking about it.
Anyways.
She's going to get that Fenty deal.
Yeah.
Yo, how do y'all respond anytime your girl was putting some clothes on and asked you,
is this see-through?
Can you see through this?
Has that ever happened to y'all?
Yeah, my girl did that other day i
said take that shit off she's like no i can wear it without the bra right i said let me see she
put on take that shit i will go burn that shit right now let's go ice but she put the put the
bra on and put the shirt back on and went out now would that be considered insecure or just laying
the law down no that would be yo take that shit off. Dude, who would the fuck have that? Yo, you know what though?
Hold on, let me answer the question.
Yeah, hold up.
It's an understanding
that we have.
That's what it is.
No, I respect that.
I almost had
an insecure moment.
I went to go look
at the place.
Not you.
I almost had.
And a nigga was
looking at my wife's ass.
Nigga and I turned around
and I saw him.
And he was staring.
And for about four seconds I said, nigga, flip, get it together, nigga.
She got, you know, whatever, her shit hanging.
You have to respect her.
I looked at JR, and I calmed down.
I wanted to slap fire.
Nigga, when you looking at my wife like that, nigga, I'm right here, stupid nigga.
What the fuck are you doing?
You don't want a wife to see.
You don't respond well when that happens?
No, I mean.
See, I like that.
Yeah, you don't want a wife that people want to look at.
Hold on.
Listen, listen. You can look, but staring is two different things.... See, I like that. Yeah, you don't want a wife that people want to look at. Hold on. Listen, listen.
You can look,
but staring is two different things.
Nigga, stare all day.
Nah.
Not when I'm right there, nigga.
Nigga, you don't respect my shit.
Stand right over there and stare.
Nigga, stare like this.
If you're not staring,
it's like I walked by
with something muddy.
Word.
If you're not staring...
I want the neck break, though.
Yeah, what did I even...
I got to break up with her.
Nah, nah.
I got some midnight. Yeah, damn, man. I thought you were still turning heads. Of course. Yeah, what did I even, I got to break up with her. Nah, nah. I got some midnight.
Yeah, damn, I thought you were still turning heads.
Of course, no, no, no.
The reversal brothers.
Not me.
Not me.
Not me.
Not me.
You can look, because of course, because, you know, we all look, and you can look.
The nigga was staring at me.
You talking to the nigga, nigga's staring.
Nigga, why you right there?
It's a level of disrespect.
It's a level of, I know what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying.
Like, of course, I'm happy. But it's a level of disrespect it's a level of I know what I'm saying you know what I'm saying like of course I'm happy
but it's a level of disrespect
if you take it that way
if you talk
nigga did you
yo Joe I get you
I'll crack
I'll crack your head off
you the same nigga
that came in here
and said you wanted
to fight the niggas
in DR
thank you my nigga
you the same nigga
that came in here
and said you wanted
to fight the niggas
in DR
he was looking too long
you need therapy
what
exactly
what happened in the yard?
Remind me.
You said the niggas was being disrespectful by staring at your chick to the point where
it got disrespectful.
You want to fuck one of them niggas up.
Yo, nigga, I'm pardoned.
I love that shit.
You're not, though.
I'm pardoned.
Joe, come on, Joe.
Don't do that.
I love that shit.
I'm telling you, I love that.
I'm a cuck.
So why you talking to a nigga?
You are not a cuck.
Okay, I'm not a cuck.
You're not a cuck.
You're not telling me who I am.
All right, continue.
You're a cuck hold? Now look, now look. You're not telling me who I am. All right, continue. You're a cuck-hole?
Now look, now look.
That ain't what we're talking about.
That ain't inquiring.
Now what are we talking about?
Are you positive you're telling the truth?
Because you, like, you did me that.
I don't remember what you're talking about,
but that sounds like positive to me.
I wouldn't give a fuck.
You said that them niggas were staring.
You went on to that retreat.
It was a particular person, yeah.
And you said they were staring that shot in.
Oh, a particular person.
And homeboy was doing, like...
And you said, normally, I don't really care.
I like that shit, but he was going too far.
Oh, then he might have went too far.
Yeah.
Was his stare too long?
I don't-
Is there a time frame for the stare?
If you stand, listen, if you stand and talk to a nigga,
or stand in the vicinity having a conversation,
and a nigga staring at your wife's ass in front of you
or your shorty, at some point you be like,
all right, I'm flattered.
Good looking, nigga, but turn your fucking face.
Oh, wait, y'all standing there talking and he just staring at her?
Nigga, no.
It's like, I'm talking to a nigga about the place.
Yeah, yeah.
He's like, where you at?
OK.
My wife's standing there, like, trying to listen.
And he's, look, nigga, we all in the conversation, bitch ass nigga.
Oh, yeah, nah.
But I, you know.
Nah, what?
I don't like that.
Nah, what?
You just said you love that shit. I said I like when you stare. But if I'm talking to you, nigga. Oh yeah, nah. But I, you know. Nah what? I don't like that. Nah what? You just said you love that shit.
I said I like when you stare,
but if I'm talking to you nigga,
we having a conversation.
But I didn't want to ask,
you know what it is?
I could talk,
I could chew buggy,
but you're going to walk
in the same tub.
There's a way to do it.
See, I don't like,
it's just so ideal.
I hate him in these kind of talks.
Me.
No, it's not ideal.
He's right though.
I hate you in the talks.
Me.
Y'all niggas me.
Where there is a little bit
of gray area.
What you saying is true
and what me and Ice are saying could be true. It could be niggas that fuck with the stare, but there is a little bit of gray area. What you saying is true and what me and Ice are saying could be true.
It could be niggas that fuck with the stare,
but there is a level where it's foul.
But if you had a situation
where you had the same complaint,
don't just paw to get at me, at your man.
Understand what the fuck I'm saying.
And my son is there,
so I said when I looked at JR,
I don't want to think of him.
I fall back like a sucker.
I had to,
but in my mind,
I'm like,
yo,
this nigga is crazy.
So did you get the house?
You ain't jump him.
Me and JR jumped a couple of niggas,
but not him,
no.
You can't,
no,
you can't jump him for that.
Oh,
man.
You found a new realtor?
Gotta get you a nice Father's Day gift.
What a dad.
Yeah,
nigga put me in a choker.
Fighting people with your son.
Nigga put me in a choker.
JR done saved him a few times. Exactly. Well, with your oldest son. J.R. to save them a few times.
Exactly.
Well, he should stop fighting.
If your son has to continuously save you from the boop, boop, boop, boop,
then your fighting days should be behind you now.
No, no, no, no, no.
Don't fight no more.
That's not how it goes.
But don't fight again.
That's not how it goes.
Stop playing the fucking narrative, nigga.
We'll jump you.
How it goes is that when I did a skit in KFC...
And the nigga put you
in a Carnegie choke.
I punched the nigga in the face
and some nigga came from behind
and put me in a chokehold
and brought me out.
So I started to cover my face
and then he let me go randomly.
I turned around,
I see JR breathing.
I'm like, oh, yes!
I got some help.
Yeah.
I want to let the last niggas
that jumped me,
it didn't go well.
They lost.
Oh, talk your shit. go well. They lost. Oh, don't give a shit.
Salute.
Salute.
I heard that story.
Niggas falling on the floor.
Your man got hurt, though.
Nah, that's where he not at.
He not here right now.
What we got?
And they'll use that against him if we tell that story.
And that don't mean I win again, like, chill.
I'm going to run it back.
Yeah, I'm not at all. You good. Leave it at that. I'm going to run it back. Yeah, I'm not at all.
You good.
Leave it at that.
I'm going to lose the run back.
What else?
What else?
What else?
Halloween costumes.
I'm still debating.
Good job, Mel.
I don't know.
I'm still debating.
You in a rush to leave.
Like, when she's so precise like that, she has a hard time.
Bullshit.
She never answers so fast.
Oh, my gosh.
We're back.
When that luggage get in the air and the dog get to the center. Well, Halloween. So. Yeah, shit. She never answers so fast. Oh, my gosh. We're back. When that luggage get in the air and the dog get to the center.
Well, Halloween.
So, you know the history.
Who was the director of Halloween?
You know Jamie Lee Curtis developed Alzheimer's.
And Halloween was always different in Toronto versus L.A., right?
Like, I was in, like, we don't care.
That's hate.
First of all, I guess you don't care.
Are you going to be Catwoman?
You look like
the Catwoman type. Yeah, no, that's a good idea.
She can't be Catwoman. That would require
makeup. What the fuck?
Joe, what the fuck?
Joe, what the fuck are you doing? I'm saying it will...
Shut up. Right.
Exactly. I'm thinking
Storm, maybe.
From X-Men.
Which one, Halle Berry or the other bitch?
Sorry, I didn't mean to say B-word.
I feel like only Halle played Storm, right?
No, it was two Storms.
It was another Storm later on, but that doesn't matter.
So you're going to be the Halle Berry Storm.
You getting that short wig with the cut?
Maybe.
I don't know.
I'm still working it out.
You still trying to get the deal with Halle?
Because you know you're defending her with the slams.
I know your tricks. You start doing shit.
Every shit with you got an angle.
Now you want to reference it for Halle.
But you're going out for Halloween weekend, right?
To Atlanta?
No, I'm just saying you're going out
Halloween weekend while you're out.
Wait, are you flying to Atlanta?
She is.
Yes. Yes, sir. flying to Atlanta? She is. Yes.
Yes, sir.
Can I get my thrills?
You know you want some more. So you just so happen to be flying to Atlanta for work on the weekend that everyone and their mom is flying to Atlanta.
I swear it's a coincidence.
People going to Atlanta?
Yeah, everybody.
What's going on in Atlanta?
One music festival. What? R on Atlanta? Yeah, everybody. I didn't know. What's going on in Atlanta? One music festival.
What?
Rugs party.
Ah, okay.
It's Rugs' birthday party.
That's true.
Rugs party.
It's Rugs' birthday party.
Hey, Rugs, happy birthday.
Happy birthday, Rugs.
We love you.
Yeah.
But that's what's happening.
I done been on the phone with all types of street legend niggas that's getting their
best outfit. Yeah. That's going to get street legend niggas that's getting their best outfit.
Yeah.
That's going to get their jewelry.
That's driving, getting their cars.
I've spoken to mad girls leaving Friday and Saturday morning.
This is an event.
Rug's birthday party is an event.
I was just invited.
You wouldn't be happening to be going there, right?
No.
Mm-mm.
You sure? Y'all heard it, right I don't make sure what me my headphones one trip
she is
Why are you so mixy?
I am not mixy.
No, you outside. You're a little mixy.
You're outside.
Mel, I'm hurt.
I'm not mixy.
You're in a rock party?
I did, listen.
I don't know.
I got stuff to do.
That's it.
All right.
That's all.
That's all.
For work, right?
You going with Ziggy Marley and the niggas?
No, I'm not going with Ziggy Marley.
No.
All right, mixy Mel.
Mixy Mel is mixy.
I'll tell you, y'all want to talk music?
We can.
We didn't get too much on Halloween.
Yeah, nobody said so.
I mean, the costumes.
What are y'all doing for Halloween?
I don't have anything planned,
but, you know, Parks is right.
It's going to be 80 degrees this weekend.
It's going to be nice.
Damn, they are out.
They're going to be outside.
I got to go out there
and represent faithful black men of America.
Right. And at least
Look at
Look at the creative
Artists
That's what it's all about
And what they put on
Yeah just appreciating
Wardrobe
Creativity
Yeah that too
Yeah
Make up to make up
The naughty nurses
Some of this shit
Gotta be retired though
Okay let's keep it above
What costumes need
To be retired
I think the Velma got to go.
The Velma.
I say no.
I might be mad, but come on.
I vote against that.
I saw the Velma costume with the spirit the other day.
Velma would be right when they got to this.
Velma would be right.
I'm just saying.
Nice leg up under that miniskirt.
Certain costumes the same thing every year you see, though.
Certain ones.
Ain't the same body.
Well, no, because she just went and got it done.
It's going to be a lot of Barbies this year. A lot of Barbies. Oh, no, because she just went and got it done. It's going to be
a lot of Barbies this year.
A lot of Barbies.
I'm over that.
Yeah, I'm already over it.
I haven't seen it yet.
Barbie, I'm over.
Taylor Swift
will probably go up, yeah.
Oh, yeah,
there's definitely
going to be some Taylor
and Travis.
Travis, yeah.
Couple of costumes.
What, they going
to buy some stilts?
No, I was asking.
No, they're going
to buy a jersey, nigga. Travis. Oh, how they going to buy some stilts. No, I was asking. No, they're going to buy a jersey, nigga.
Travis.
Oh, how they going to do her?
Blonde wig.
Can black people do white face on Halloween?
Good question.
I'm asking a question.
I'm not making a joke.
Yes.
I've never seen that in my life.
But can I do white face and not be judged?
You've seen white face.
You're going to be judged.
You look like a mime. You've seen white face. You're going to be judged. You've never seen white face.
You look like a mime.
You've seen white face-ish.
You can't talk.
White chicks, the movie.
There you go.
Dave Chappelle has done white face a couple times.
I've never seen it.
Dave Chappelle has done white face.
Yeah.
I don't think.
Yeah, I think they could get it off.
Because it's not really.
Can I be a clan member for Halloween?
Yes.
I was one before so you can
I don't know
that one I don't know
you might not make it
back into the next pod
I don't know about that one
why it's Halloween
everything is fake
yeah
no
so when everything is fake
you can't pretend
to be a racist
but when everything is real
we'll totally allow the racist
I'm just asking for clarity I don't know how it works but I just think You can't pretend to be a racist, but when everything is real, we'll totally allow the racist.
I'm just asking for clarity.
I don't know how it works, but I just think being a Klan member ain't going to go well.
It's intense.
Yeah.
I think that.
I think any time knowing you're a Klan member.
I wouldn't do that because, you know, black, but just wanted to ask.
Halloween is fun.
Klan.
Halloween is a crock of shit.
Well, yes, it is. It is. It's a crock of shit, but it's also a fun crock of shit. It Halloween is a crock of shit. Well, yes, it is.
It is.
It's a crock of shit, but it's also a fun crock of shit.
It is a fun crock of shit. You know, the KKK, not so much fun.
Adolf Hitler, not vibe killer.
Depending what party you're at.
That's true, Tusha.
That is true.
We've seen, you know, some people pictures surface from years ago where they did that
in college.
At a costume party. Went with a clans member or as blackface type of stuff and you
see what happens today well I don't know I want to go to the party with the
chicks with body is that I just want the party the whole thing I go to hose gonna
be naked naked as in very, very revealing.
Oh my God.
Ditto floss.
If you guys want to see some shit like that, you go to LA for Halloween.
That is their favorite, favorite holiday.
That is where- New York too though.
New York goes crazy.
Yeah, New York go crazy.
No, New York goes crazy.
But in LA, it is a different level of naked women in the streets.
It's typically 70, 80 in LA.
Nice little bar crawl.
Yeah.
Bar hopping.
Mm-hmm.
That's my plan.
Yeah, that's how you do it.
I'm outside.
It was always a lot of fun.
Y'all want to talk music?
Yeah, we can get to it.
What dropped?
Brent Fires dropped.
Brent did.
That's all that I...
Did y'all hear the Brent album? Yeah, let's start with Brent. Let's do it. The Fires dropped. Brent did. That's all that I... Did y'all hear the Brent album?
Yeah, let's start with Brent.
I listened to it.
The production is great.
Brent sounds like Brent,
which is some people's cup of tea,
some people's not cup of tea,
but it sounds like a vibe.
I'm pretty sure the young ladies
will be listening to it heavily,
loud and drunk,
singing like him.
And it's going to be a vibe.
It's going to be a vibe. It's gonna be a vibe.
Yeah, I listened to it.
That's kind of the same
thing I took away.
Like this album
just seemed vibe.
It's a lot of like,
it sounded like
throwback Timbaland beats.
It's not Timbaland producing.
It's not?
No.
Oh shit, I thought it was.
Yeah, and he's on the intro
talking on the intro.
Yeah.
And then you got Missy
on the record.
So I'm thinking,
okay, this is a V8 thing. It sounds like their old production. Yeah, but he's on the intro talking on the end. Yeah, he's on the intro. Yeah. And then you got Missy on the record. So I'm thinking, okay, this is a V8 thing.
It sounds like their old production.
Yeah.
But it's not.
But they bought it.
You heard the Liza album?
Wasteland.
Yeah.
It's better than that.
It's too early for me.
Yeah.
And they're kind of different vibes.
This one's more, I don't want to say mixtape-y, but I'm going to say mixtape-y.
This feels like, I don't want to call them throwaways because that's disrespectful to a person that puts an album out,
but this does feel like I didn't go in trying to make a studio album.
This was like my B-level or C-level.
What was the space of time in between this album and the last one, Wasteland?
A year and a half, maybe, something like that.
I'm not mad at the album.
What I've learned about Brent is you're either going to love him or hate him.
I'm not mad at the album.
I know people.
What I've learned about Brent is you're either going to love him or hate him.
True.
And that's kind of when he drops, the people that hate him are going to hate him for the same reason they hated the last project, the one before that, the one before that, the one before that.
And the people that love him are going to love him, love it the same way they loved the last projects.
True indeed.
He's kind of, his fan base or the reception on him is split.
It's like polarizing.
One side love him, one side hate him,
and they stay there.
True.
Anybody else?
I didn't hear it.
I haven't had a chance to hear it.
Either you, gentlemen?
I hit the, you know, I'm not buying a Brent album, but I did hit the sample
so I could hear what he was doing.
sample so I could hear what he was doing. I want the mature word to like leave music critique,
so I'm trying to, but I see how he has matured as an artist.
Okay.
Like that's what I take from.
It sounds like he listened to some of the critiques that people had of him and
He is trying to visibly improve right like
Last last project. I was like the beats are very airy
for what he's doing so it highlights where the vocal might go off and
These beats don't seem airy at all to me.
Like you said,
it sounds like there's some Timbaland,
Pharrell shit.
I didn't check the credits,
but the beats,
I love the beats
on the project,
and he sounds like
that off-key note,
that off-note shit,
it sounds like
he's attempting
to do it a lot less.
So I'll say
I can hear some growth
from project to project
in the snippets
that I've heard from Brent.
But two projects ago,
you liked...
I don't like any Brent project.
None.
I thought you liked
the one that I saw.
I'm not a Brent guy.
I'm not a Brent guy.
Really?
I'm not a...
I like him as a person
and his business model.
But musically,
I tap out.
I understand
what it's not for me.
Because I think,
like, I think that shit that he does
he does on purpose now
I think so too
I think so too
like whatever's off key
he picks strange melodies
I don't even know
if it's off key
as much as it's just
strange melody choices
it's both
it may be both
it's both
abstract maybe
yeah but
it's
it's hard to describe
it's hard to describe
but I do think it fares well for people that want to turn up and sing along.
Yeah.
He's definitely curated an incredible fan base and audience off of what he does.
So I appreciate when you have the fan base and you're still trying to improve.
That's what it sounds like to me.
His core audience might not like the project.
Maybe, yeah. I'm noticing a lot of that too core audiences are not really feeling when the um when the artist tries to deviates a
little bit yeah but even if it's not a full deviation it's just let me try something a
little different it's still in line with what i do maybe a different type of production or maybe
i'm flowing a little differently but the subject matter stays the same the core fans is like no we don't want
that but it's like if i keep making the same thing over and over and over i'm going to hit a ceiling
at some point this with asap sound hard i ain't gonna lie i was gonna play that go ahead
that's your heart this is hard
oven outside the night long against the sun signs and the stars
i need some insight to your heart oven outside the night I don't love this hook, but the song goes.
There you go.
Hey. Yo, rappers out there, I got to tell y'all, I'm tired of y'all on songs.
Now, I'm not talking about him, even though it's coming from what I just heard.
I'm tired of you rappers getting on songs talking about, please don't fuck my friend.
It sounds like y'all be heartbroken and distraught when the girl you like fuck your friend,
especially if they're a rapper or an athlete.
That shit hurt.
And it's supposed to hurt.
But don't get on the song and start sounding hurt.
Please don't fuck my friend.
Please don't fuck my friend.
You want to keep them to yourself.
That's what it is.
Oh, man.
That song's not hard, though.
Yeah, it's tough.
And he went off.
Shout out to the Brent fans out there.
Shout out to Brent Hive.
Yeah.
Shout out to Brent Hive.
I'm sure they're pleased.
Who was that singing on it?
I'm not sure who the other artist is.
Something like New York, LA.
New York, LA.
Yeah.
I'm not familiar with that.
That's with the three.
Yeah.
Like, I really like the Brent songs when another artist comes on and...
Coco Jones is on this one.
She killed it.
Love Coco Jones. Mm-hmm. She killed it. Love Coco Jones.
Go Brent. Yeah, go Brent.
Go Brent. Anyone else drop
anything? I didn't have too much time to get
to Brent. You know what I mean?
My God.
My God. Hold up.
Hey.
I have too much time.
My man came out.
Hey.
Wait a minute.
Hey.
Hey.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Destin Conrad.
This nigga don't play, he don't miss
I love what you do
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm
But the other night you played with some
Hey, oh shit, yo
Oh shit
You're shakin' up tough, why you do me like this?
You don't know how it ends
I'm broke, I'm tired, of type I give you everything I want for
You make it so damn hard to ignore
The feeling that our fires came to war
One more time, one more time
I don't mind playing every side but you I don't mind Playing every Sabbath
I don't mind
Wow.
That's out of fire.
Brand new Destin Conrad came out.
A little surprise sneaky album.
I do miss albums coming out on Tuesday.
We've said that before.
Tyler, the creator,
recently echoed it.
I do miss Tuesday albums.
I think that'll bring back album.
It'll help to bring back projects.
Right?
You may be more inclined
to listen to an album
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
That's true.
Than Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
True.
Yeah.
Weekends are for the bops only.
By the time the weekend come,
I want to know the songs I like.
I don't want album cuts.
I don't want to figure it out.
I don't want to figure it out on the weekend.
I don't.
Destin Conrad came out.
This shit is fire.
It's fire.
Name of the album is Submissive.
You seen Shaq jumped on Shaq and Kobe?
And Dame.
And Dame.
I did.
I wanted to finish.
Not my fault.
My bad.
Destin Conrad before I get to Shaquille O'Neal verse.
before I get to Shaquille O'Neal verse.
So Destin Conrad has like some dudes on his album cover.
And I don't know if these are like figurines,
but they're like muscle bound figurines.
The name of the project is submissive.
And on some of this, it sound like he is in his bag.
I don't know.
His other songs were tough to figure that out.
This album, it sounds like he ain't hiding.
He ain't hiding.
Kitty coming?
Yeah.
What is... Ish, what's up, yo?
I was just asking.
Ish.
What does that mean?
I don't understand the question.
You said he has muscle-bound figurines on his album.
Yeah.
The name of it is submissive.
And on some of these freestyles, he's no longer saying her.
Like on some of the music, he's saying him.
If he dub my call.
Okay.
If he don't come through.
Kitty coming.
Yes, Kitty's coming. Okay. that's what you're saying
it's a really perverse joke
you talking
but this shit is tough
this shit is tough
it's a good album
that don't
that don't
that don't change
how the music sounds
for me with him
now that other dude
Steve Lacey
or these other gay dudes that seem like they hanging their entire campaign on I'm gay I'm
gay I'm gay I'm gay I don't want to hear none of that shit I don't want to hear the music still
got to be good first before we get into what you're doing by the time Frank Ocean started
talking that shit in that album, it didn't matter.
It didn't sound good.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
It's a nigga he talking about.
Also, also, also.
You're stupid.
Yeah, I ain't have much time to get to Brent.
Cherry 22 dropped.
OK.
CHXRRY22, that's The Weeknd's artist. Jerry 22 dropped. Okay. C-H-X-R-R-Y 22.
That's The Weeknd's artist.
She ain't dropped nothing but fire since...
Hey.
Hey.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
No, drop it. Come on, man. It all. I don't sense because he the pilot.
Only find his diner.
Can't nobody sit with us.
It's too see to recline it.
Kiss me on my mind.
Kiss me on the moon.
He say on the way, he know just what to do.
When I'm inside, he know it's on.
Come on, man.
That sounds like Shabazz.
That's hard right there.
Come on, man.
Come on, man. That's hard. Come on, man. I'm rolling with that one. Come on, man. That's hard right there. Come on, man. Come on, man.
That's hard.
Come on, man.
I'm rolling with that one.
Come on, man.
Freak, freak, freaky hoes.
Come on, man.
Yeah, shout out to Brent, but two of my people that I fuck with came out.
So, yeah, this Cherry 22 shit and this Destin Conrad shit is cool.
I don't know what else came out.
It was kind of a quiet week.
It wasn't a ton.
Ace Hood dropped a project. Oh,
I do like that Ace Hood project. He got some shit
on there. I do like that Ace Hood project.
Benny is on there. Benny, you're
working hard. Shout out to Benny.
You're working hard. Establish
artists to underground
artists and dependent artists. You're going.
You're making your name be felt out here
and we're going to critique you, nigga. Fuck out of here. You're rapping too much and dependent artists. You going. You making your name be felt out here and we gonna critique you, nigga.
Fuck out of here. You rapping
too much and too good. And
shut the fuck up. Stop rapping for the bad rappers.
Don't use your good
rapper equity to
rap for the niggas that we gonna trash.
I'ma trash every one of them
whack niggas. Nothing you can do about it.
You're fired.
No question.
That boy is good.
No question.
No, he good.
That boy is good.
I just seen an old interview of Chris Reeves.
Chris Reeves?
Superman?
Okay.
Christopher Reeves.
Christopher Reeves.
Christopher Reeves.
Rest in peace.
Basically going hard at Marlon Brando.
He worked on a movie together.
He was like, no, man, he fell off.
He's not in love with this shit.
It was on Letterman, like in the 80s or whatever it was.
And I was like, look, there's a fucking star actor.
A white people critique of a legend.
Shitting on a super legend.
Ain't no one better than I at it.
In today's society, that shit would have been all over the internet.
What? That shit would have been all over the internet what
that shit would have been
everywhere
think pieces about
every think piece
that's true
damn I don't have the clip
but uh
Tyla
the water
she did Kimmel
out of here
killed it
yeah
out of here
I saw it
she's out of here
I think they were tagging it
as her first
US performance
oh wow
out of here that hear that girl.
That girl is gone.
Facts.
She looked great. She really did.
Great.
She looked great. Her voice
sounded amazing live.
The dancers were great.
What a first impression.
What a first impression.
No wonder Tank sat his ass at the
piano start and that's how you know somebody out of here when tanks sit at the piano start
singing they song and make me swear nigga he killed that shit that shit that that song
i don't think it's leaving no time soon no no way it's just getting started over here
see what i will say niggas don't
come in here enough well i don't let me not speak let me speak for myself i don't come in here
enough and say when i appreciate tiktok culture and instagram real culture for breaking music for
me and it's happened quite a bit so like we always talk about the negatives from the 30 second clips and just artists
pandering to that culture but when it's done correctly and you bump into like a joint yeah
yeah that's what it's for absolutely so that song broke on tiktok yes yeah and i like when tiktok
culture do it like how they did for um chris brown's under the influence. That record was four years old. Mm-hmm. Dropped as a track on the Deluxe album.
Mm-hmm.
TikTok got a hold of it.
It shot up the charts.
Mm-hmm.
Next thing you know,
he has a hit on his hands.
Mm-hmm.
He went and shot a video
all for a four-year-old song.
Yep.
Like,
it is a positive.
Yeah, I don't think
there's anything wrong
with TikTok in real culture.
The problem, I guess,
becomes when it
is forced upon artists
and creators to like
when you do something yeah talk song yeah make it for this or make maybe they're not good at
making content and they're being forced to make content and they just want to make bops
all the times when it's yo implement something in here that we can make a challenge out of or
dance right like now your music suffer because you're chasing the tiktok instagram reel how about we just go back to the days where the artist makes
the dope artists and the other people figure out how to make it pop exactly you know what i'm saying
like my issue you know my issue is with the music business incentivizing artists to make the shorter records or the records there was a lot of 90 second
songs on the brint project yeah there was and you know my beef used to be that hey you are
conditioning fans to get used to a new concept of song right almost like inner interlude length
records but my beef ain't with the fans and the artists.
They just acquiesce into music industry standards, which is, hey, these artists want to get paid now.
So now they're going to trick around.
They're going to trick. They're going to play with the numbers and the rules and the songs and the amount of songs and the length. It could be like I miss a good 13 track album of songs.
I agree. But my favorite part of the album for me used to be to go to somebody's track list
and identify what the longest song was right five minutes seven minutes six minutes see now sometimes
that was the last track on the album they don't even have the attention span for that now majority
of the i don't see i don't like that some of that shit is cop out shit because some of the greatest
some of the greatest motown hits were two minutes long like that is not it's not a new concept i'm
talking about people today that's like yo i don't want to listen to the same thing for that long
that's all i'm just saying the attention see but now i want to hear something else that gets me
back to and then i'm i'm so done with drake but that gets back to my standoff with Drake if you are an artist
forget Drake if you are an artist
at some point you just have to
dictate
it's not about what the fans want to hear
it's not about what the industry
industry standard is
if you are an artist at some point
you should be in your room or wherever you
create and some janky shit should hit
your brain
I gotta get out of room or wherever you create and some janky shit should hit your brain. I got to get out of shot.
Or if you're one of them.
Yeah.
If you're one of them, you can move.
And that's why I keep saying y'all be putting that shit on people not necessarily knowing if they want that pressure.
Some people want to take the easy route.
Like, yo, let me stick the course.
Do this and I can go.
Dumb niggas walk into the artist club.
So it's not like we putting that pressure on them.
You walked into artist club.
You are an artist.
You don't think, and we don't want to, let's not stay on Drake.
But you don't think at some point.
Oh, I left Drake.
I wasn't even on.
Well, I'm talking about him.
If you look at his career, his discography.
Then he fell off.
I'm not saying fell off.
I'm just saying at some point, you can't, I can pinpoint it. I'm asking the rest of you, you can pinpoint where it went from. I'm trying
to craft projects to, I'm trying to make a collection of songs to just get played that
everybody's just going to like. So I'm like playlist, I'm not making albums, I'm making
playlists. And that's what a lot of these people are doing. I want to make short songs that can
get repetitive spins. I'm playing a streaming game.
I want to make something
that you like, you like, you like,
you like, you like, you like.
Everybody different.
I'm playing a different game
because the game changed.
He's not playing a different game
because he's trying to sell music.
He's trying to sell music
with a different...
Business model.
Different business model.
I'm trying to...
How can I say it?
No, it's the same.
Well...
Adhering to the changing.
It's different when I had to make an album and y'all had to go to the stores and buy it.
Ice, I'm not going that far back.
I'm going back to...
That ain't that far back.
That was far back when you had to go to the store
and buy an album.
That's two decades ago.
I'm going to last decade.
Last decade.
Not just that, yo.
You can make a quality project
that pleases this person, this person, this person,
this person, this person. Yeah, I'm tired of artist cop-outs, yo. There's make a quality project that pleases this person, this person, this person, this person, this person.
Yeah, I'm tired of artist cop-outs.
There's too many cop-outs from artists.
Yo, if you niggas is trash, just come out and say you trash.
If you tried to sell some low-effort shit, just come out and say it.
Uzi every day on fucking socials now for the past five days saying everything but I put out some trash.
Yo, I was unable to do what i normally do because i didn't
experience enough life i didn't live yo i wasn't in my right state of mind last project all that
shit that i came in here and said hey yo dog why is he coming in here two days after his project
drop and shitting on the project to drop you slapping me in the face so now now to get the
fans back on your side before your next
project you got to explain us all this shit that don't really fucking matter because the musicals
too many artists dropping me most of y'all are me agreed most of y'all are me more than that's it
but try to trying to fucking explain explain it come in here and you know this is as to why y'all are me you know their rebuttal i went
number one uzi went number one with me that's not a rebuttal to that that is their rebuttal
but i'm saying that's their rebuttal but like yes i am it you take it as me but guess what
it's still charting what i needed it to do okay but they too stupid to know that that is not
rebutting what is being said. Artistry and the music business
are not the same conversation
at all.
And they keep getting conflated.
Word.
We don't,
we rarely come in here
and with sound scan
and numbers and chart,
we don't do that.
They do.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
That's what they care about.
That's you,
because you're passionate
about this shit.
You want artistry. A lot of these niggas is want to chase hits i just want to put numbers on the
board and if i could do it low effort bang bang bang bang bang every time i'm gonna do it it's
working the powers that be the company that pays me all of these niggas we all happy the only
person that's not is the purist that is caring about the artist stop stop stop stop don't call me a purist or i don't like i don't like how people do that i'm
just saying purists that still care about the art the people that like art are not a purist
true and if that's the case then we need a new word for what y'all fuckity fuck niggas are well
take the word not y'all take the word purist out but that's what i'm saying though y'all are the ones who care about the artistry i don't think half these niggas off. Well, take the word purist out, but that's what I'm saying, though.
Y'all are the ones who care about the artistry.
I don't think half these niggas
give a fuck about
being an artist today.
I know, but the problem is
they're called artists.
Calling them another name.
I'm not talking about,
I don't give a fuck
enough about enough
of these niggas
to get into their psychology.
I don't know
how they consider themselves,
what their goals are,
what they're trying to do.
All I know is when y'all sign on the dotted line
you are an artist
what you think they consider themselves as
that
acts
and what
you saying and exactly what
you saying is exactly
my fucking problem with
the Milli Vanilli dog now Now we getting to it.
Let's get to it. Now we getting to it.
This is the conversation
with the Milli Vanilli dog. If you're unfamiliar,
Milli Vanilli is a
were two dancers.
They were a duo. They weren't a duo.
They became a duo. Yes.
They were two dancers
from Germany. Yes, that
met somewhere.
Frank Farian or whatever the producer's name that had huge success with another group that was a little karaoke-ish.
And I think it was B Money or M Money, whatever.
They tell you in the doc what the group was, but they was lit in that club dance scene.
He put them together.
He found some real singers and some real rappers to do the music and they was just out there lip-syncing yeah they wasn't singing they wasn't doing shit now
they put out an album in Germany or wherever where they were singing okay but when Arista got it
you know and Frank Farian got it he put his little touch on it and took them all took them off the
credits they're not there.
And they went on to sell like six, seven million records.
Won a Grammy.
They won a Grammy.
They won man awards.
But the Grammy is what jammed them up.
It was.
Because that was artistry.
Uh-huh.
Artists.
Was it also that they had to perform there?
No.
What jammed them up, honestly, was the success from watching the doc, right?
They kind of outlined it.
The success got to them.
Now we're popping.
We're lit.
Paul McCartney wants to meet you.
We'll get to that later.
Fuck that.
We're popping.
We're at the party.
Fuck Paul.
Yeah, they don't even know who Paul McCartney is.
They didn't give a fuck about Paul.
And then the producer wants them to do whatever, whatever.
Nah, fuck that.
We want to do it like this.
And the producer said, all right.
That ain't even him.
I'm going to come out with a press release and say, that wasn't them singing on this
album at all.
Wasn't it that they performed somewhere because there was like a track?
They performed and they were storing the vocals in the keyboard.
And at one of the shows when they were on tour, the keyboard kept repeating,
blame it on the, blame it on the, blame it on the,
and they ran off the stage.
Yes.
But why this is relevant to our conversation.
I remember that.
Of course you do.
This was the biggest thing in music,
how they tore these two gentlemen down.
The light-skinned brother, Rob, ended up,
he died from mental health.
He had enough. Substance abuse, a bunch of shit ended up, he died from mental health. And just, he had enough.
Substance abuse, a bunch of shit.
Yeah, his whole life was ruined.
The dark-skinned brother, I don't remember his name.
But he went on to, he had a dark period too.
But then he got married.
He had kids.
But he became a musician as well.
He was actually singing.
I don't know how successful he was.
But that was the beauty in the doc.
It was Fab and Rob.
Fab and Rob.
Fab.
By the end of the doc, Fab is on stage.
And listen, it was a big thing, them not being able to sing their songs.
And the interviews, the press was killing them.
They was asking them to sing on the spot.
And they really couldn't sing.
They sounded bad.
OK. was killing them they was asking them to sing on the spot and they really couldn't sing they sounded bad okay but by the end of the doc rob was on stage by himself really singing blame it on the
rain to a crowd of how many people and the the the climax the climax there is oh shit after all of
that that bothered him so much that he really did go put the work in and he sounded good
he was cutting the music off, hitting runs
he sounded good
but as you watch this to our conversation
they got killed
and they didn't do nothing wrong
they did
what most of the music
business today
that's what the music business today is built on
let me find somebody
that is attractive
and desirable.
I don't have to care
about you actually doing talent
because we're going to fix
the talent part.
You're going to make it
factor to talent.
You know what the problem
was for them?
They were born before
autotune was popping
and all the technology
shit we have today
because a lot of,
I would say the fundamental
difference about what you're saying
is that all these puppet artists,
we'll call them now,
at least it's their voice.
With Milli Vanilli,
they literally were not on the record.
There's a big difference there.
But had there been an auto-tune or something?
Currently, they still use background vocals.
They'll keep the songwriters' vocals in there
and add on top of it.
But at least the lead is the person. But we can run it through autotune we can uh fix the timing and pro tools
or whatever app you're using and make it sound like you actually perform it and maybe over time
you'll actually learn how to perform it because here it's all perfect for you gotcha and even
live we can run you through autotune and fix shit up if the music and industry likes you enough they will
provide you with the song absolutely and i didn't know that diane warren wrote blame it on the rain
yeah it's crazy what i did not know that wow what she's a beast they called diane warren for
millie vanillie and she just happened to earlier the song i wrote last night it just happened it
sounds like it's their perfect second single, right?
Their first single, it's even in St. Caden's.
Girl, you know it's true.
Blame it on the rain.
We out of here.
And then sure enough, how does Diane Warren always know what's about to be out of here?
Artistry.
Nothing about that song sounded like Clive Davis, Milli Vanilli.
Like they had the legends
doing this.
And nobody like was fucked up
but Milli Vanilli.
Facts.
Everyone was good.
Arista was good.
Producer was good.
I didn't like that the producer
ratted on them.
I didn't like that he did that.
But he liked how he talked to them.
I get it, but it's foul.
It was foul.
You see that shit happen all the time.
They went on to make...
Not necessarily producers.
They made... They paid so many people. They said on to make... Not necessarily producing. They made...
They paid so many people.
They said how much money they made
and how much money everybody...
Over $500 million.
Shoot.
Like over $524 million in 1989.
Yeah, they were huge.
Pause.
That's neat.
But I'm just saying,
when you watch that,
like,
I don't really want to have
the artistry conversation today.
Because Milli Vanilli is what today's music business principles is based on.
It's a whole bunch of Milli Vanillis.
It's a lot of that.
They will manufacture everything.
All you got to do is show up.
We'll get you the beat.
We'll write it for you.
We'll have somebody.
All of that.
It's a little bit of a cop-out.
A lot of a cop-out.
There was a lot of,
even going back to Motown again.
Motown,
the songs were written,
the band was the band,
best engineers,
best studio,
all that shit
and the person just had to come in
and deliver the lead.
Now back then,
they could deliver the fucking lead.
No doubt.
A Motown lead.
But I'm just saying that
to say that this is how
the entire business is now
is not all the way accurate because the people are still delivering the lead.
Behind great production and behind great songwriting that everyone is putting together for them.
And I think that there is a slight difference in that it was not their actual vocal.
That is correct if you are just on current trends and what's going on.
Yes, today artists are using their voice.
If you go to, if you try to look at where this is going there's plenty of artists to say they're not writing mm-hmm symbols on record saying yo much I
checked you keep GPT this shit and I change up a couple of words and yada
yada yada uh we recently had a case where that the who's that Warner tried
to sign the AI cartoon and have the dude be the voice, the black dude.
And then he came out and was like, yada, yada, yada, yada.
So, yeah, that's where we are because humans are still important.
Right.
But where they're trying to go is.
Milli Fideli.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
That's where they're trying to go.
And that's my point.
Yes, that's what they're trying to do.
And that's my point.
If you are an artist,
I don't give a fuck if you're 17 years old in your mother's kitchen writing shit
or if you've been the mega successful artist.
I still think, and I'm not an artist,
so maybe I'm talking out of my ass,
but I still think that the artistry
should be important to you.
And I also think that that's a part of the job
to try and find out
how you can make your artistry successful.
Right.
Have respect for the craft. I agree with that.
And I think that when you
diminish the artist piece
just for a hit,
you are doing everybody
a disservice.
I don't think that
these niggas,
whether it be Drake,
whether it be Kendrick,
whether it be whoever
the fuck they are,
say, yo, I don't give a fuck
about the art no more.
I care about the hit.
I don't think that's true.
I do think there's a small percentage that care about the hit I don't think that's nobody I do think there's a there's a small percentage mm-hmm that care about the art it ain't as big as
it's been I think more of these I think there's a lot of artists today let's say
the industry does get to the manila with Milli Vanilli with the AI and all of
this type of shit there's niggas today that'll sign up to take a bag to be that
absolutely but there's a lot of them that they do not necessarily opportunity to do it. They're not necessarily the artist, though.
I know, that's why I said
we come up with a different name for them.
Call them an act.
Call them whatever you want.
Unfortunately, artist is all you have right now.
But I think that today
a lot of people are putting the money
and the notoriety above artistry.
If I can get rich and famous,
then yeah.
But not artist.
Like if a nigga pulled me off the street right
if i was 25 years old and some dude pulled me off the street and said yo you gotta look
i want to make you a star that's a totally different thing than joe sitting in a fucking
dungy ass room writing shit that means something to him that's a totally different thing so when
you start taking these artists that we know have
skills at being an artist
and dumbing their albums down,
that shit is disgusting.
It's a totally different thing, bro.
And you keep conflating the two, saying,
yo, I think these artists don't give
a fuck about the art no more. They care
about sales and hits. I think that
they've been too successful to make
a differentiation between the two.
They could do both.
Yeah, and even if Ice
is right,
that don't excuse it to me.
Yeah.
That don't excuse it.
I'm not making it.
I'm just giving an alternative
as to why they might do it.
There's people that don't
give a fuck about that no more.
I've given you
classic project.
I've given you
hits for dead.
I've given you all of this.
Now let me go chase
these records
and let me do it this way.
I got a bunch of other shit going on now.
I don't have time to sit and lock in
and work on and focus on this the way I used to.
Let me do what's easy.
Now I got to take the easier route.
I got to call in writers.
I got to call in producers.
I got to call in all this shit.
And you're going to take the critique that come along with it.
And you're going to take this short career
that's going to come along.
I was going to say, do you guys think...
See, because there's narrow-mindedness
that's involved in that.
Absolutely.
Yes, you get instant gratification and you may see quick results
what is that going to do for you I'm sitting here in year 20 whatever of of my career on one song
right of one record there's a bunch of people out there to say well Joe Budden that's because
you can't make a record let me tell y'all the people anybody you know that can't make a record
the industry didn't want them to win
because the industry will give you a record they'll give you a record yeah who cares if you
can't make a fucking a lot of people when they get here can't make no fucking record true there's mad
acts you can't look at what 50 cent is doing over there with all these tours non-stop you can't look
at what naz and all these old niggas wu-tang, yada, yada, yada. I don't want to get into that, but you can't look at the run they're having in
year 30, year 20,
year whatever niggas
is in and say, hey,
nothing good could come out of
working on the artistic
side or paying attention to the artistic side.
It's too many of these niggas. Y'all going to be memes.
Y'all are
going to be memes.
It's going to be a lot more memes
than 50 cents
do you guys think
there's a lot more artists in general
but they're incentivizing people to be a meme
yes and people are signing up
to play that game to be the memes
yeah no disrespect to memes
people are voluntarily walking into the door
alright cool
I'll be memes
it seems like nobody is attempting
to even try to get to iconic status anymore.
I think the day and age of the icon
is kind of dead and gone.
The musical icon.
They want to be internet icons.
The musical icon, exactly.
I mean, but that's what's in, though.
The internet is what's in.
Get it up.
That's what's getting the most spins.
That's what's getting a lot of attention.
We sound like cavemen.
We just sound like old niggas up here.
That's really what I think.
I agree with you.
Yes, y'all sound like cavemen a little bit.
Shit has changed up, and they playing a newer version of that game.
Yeah, but they're going to keep switching shit around.
The problem with this, they're going to keep switching shit around,
and the one thing that will always remain lucrative
and set you aside from everybody else is good songs and good
artistry.
But how do you do that today when the music ain't even selling?
Niggas ain't making they money from music.
Good songs sell.
Good songs sell.
I mean, they're doing the research.
These niggas are not making they money today.
Most of them are not making they money off of music.
They're finding out who's buying the music.
So they're going to find another way.
I'm going to get hot and then do this over here.
They're not incentivized to make money.
That's not true though.
I'm with you.
That's still a small, small, small minority of people too.
Even when you say, yo, I'm going to get hot
and use this as a stepping stone.
It's only 10% of motherfuckers that
bounced off that stepping stone.
Maybe not even 10%.
Where do they start from? Look at where they started from from if they got hot enough to just go get a deal and
i'm talking numbers i know me too now i'm talking about you yeah from a numbers perspective if you
only got 95 of the motherfuckers getting a popeyes deal or 95 of these motherfuckers turning it into
a music i mean an acting career or any of that. Take 10. That still shouldn't be your goal.
That still shouldn't be your goal.
Only 10% of these niggas turned into
a fucking Meg Thee Stallion or to a
fucking Tyrese or to a Ludacris.
That's still, and they started with artistry.
The niggas that pivoted, they still
good artists. And you're not even
getting fucking equities in the Popeyes.
You're not even
getting equity in the Popeyes.'re not even getting everybody in the
Popeyes y'all bringing your audience over there and selling Happy Meals stop
calling yourself an artist if you in the business of selling happy meals we do
need another name for music then I don't want to call you on I don't think it's
all right invent some new shit for these niggas. Happy mealers.
I heard somebody knocking on the door and I just sat down.
Some lazy nigga shit.
And it was my man A.
I heard somebody knock on the door.
If I'm not mistaken.
And then you sat down.
And I was close.
You didn't go confirm if you were mistaken
or not about the door.
And we took a little break.
We took a little break, and you went around, like, collecting niggas' food orders.
I did.
And you came to me and asked me if I wanted something, right?
I did.
What did I say?
You said, no, my Uber Eats, I'm low on the food ordering totem pole.
Do you know that on Uber and Uber Eats, well, I assume it's true for Uber Eats,
like, you have a rating.
All right.
Your rating might be really low on Uber Eats
because you started out,
you had a spark when you started,
but now you just garbage
when it comes to ordering the food.
Like, I used to be able to trust
the fat nigga in the crew
to order some goodies.
To order some, like, Sierra goodies.
Last time you touched a fat nigga, he lived off order some goodies. Jesus Christ. To order some, like, Sierra goodies. Last time you touched a fat nigga,
he lived off you, nigga.
Hold up.
Huh?
And he left your crib when you needed him.
Huh?
Flip, chill out.
Nah, it's just time.
Don't do it.
Chill.
No, when he gets sensitive and his feelings get hurt,
he exposes something.
Stop. Stop.
He try to get you to stop by exposing something.
Can we take that part out?
No, I don't care.
But listen, when you order Uber Eats now, they go to Connecticut.
You throw a rock and hide your hand. They go to New York and rush out with traffic.
They eat some of the food before it come.
The food never come.
Yeah, they just be like, nah.
And they keep your money on some tax.
I ain't going to lie.
Tax shit.
We ordered.
And you said the food that I ordered was garbage.
Yeah, you don't order
Good food no more
It's over
The best food
Is when JR got the
Jamaican spot from Harlem
And you
When you was
Firing me
You said yo bro
Before you leave
I would've fired you
A few times
He said before you leave
You keep coming back
Nigga I'm dying to lie
Nigga said before you leave
That was the most
JR talk about that shit
All the time
I tried to fire this nigga
He called me the other night
Talking about yo
Meet me with Nitty
Outside I was like whoa Shit Yo That was the most insulting. Yo, JR talked about that shit all the time. I tried to fire this nigga. He called me the other night and told me, yo, meet me with Nitty outside.
I was like, whoa, shit.
Yo, you're taking it too far, dog.
Who you at?
Who ain't here?
Yo, come meet up.
Let's have a drink with Nitty.
Nah, nigga.
Nah, nah, nah.
But yeah, man, the lady stole my food and went all the way.
What, fed the family with it?
Yeah, she went to Manhattan.
That's racist.
She went to Manhattan with that shit.
And we was over here debating, like, where the fuck she at?
You know what I'm saying?
She went all the way to Manhattan, man.
She was in Queens.
And stayed there.
My point to you, Ice, and I'm getting off of this because I am aware that we sound like Caveman.
Correct. Old Caveman, too. I acknowledge that. I'm not off of this because I am aware that we sound like cavemen. Correct.
Old cavemen too.
I acknowledge that.
I'm not refuting that.
I think that cavemen are needed.
I don't think
they sound like cavemen.
But that's because
you a caveman.
We cavemen.
It's true.
It's true.
We older.
Hip hop is like
it's not an older
it's not for older
mature logic.
Some of the pure shit
be like for good reason. That's what I'm saying. It's not for older, mature logic. Some of the pure shit be like for good reason.
That's what I'm saying.
My point to Ice's argument is if hip hop today continues to be reactionary and we continue to do what music industry standards incentivizes us to do then we'll never get ahead like hip-hop was not born
by doing what they wanted us to do it wasn't born being reactionary so once the powers that be see
that they have you by that grip right Spotify just came out and said, hey.
Change the rules.
Things like that happen
from us being reactionary.
What rule did they change?
We already wasn't getting paid from streams.
They made it so
there's a threshold for where they're going to start paying people at
basically. So if your shit don't get no streams,
you're not getting shit.
And what was happening was people was uploading, like, the sound of the rain.
Yeah.
And as long as it was 31 seconds, you could actually receive, you can get paid for that.
Like, it kept getting played.
See, we say people, and I'm sure people were doing that, but I'm sure Spotify was doing that.
Remember that story about there are millions of artists who have less than one play?
And that was odd.
Like, that's them doing it too because
those numbers bolster their bottom line as well that's true but now look right now hey whatever
that shit was we was paying you before and now if you don't have that number then you're not getting
paid well somebody is still being paid correct y'all don't get to just make and hip-hop it's like
you submit that's why i'm so strong in my retirement and hip-hop it's like you submit that's why i'm so strong in
my retirement and hip-hop it's like you just submit to certain things and the hip-hop i come
from you'll never get your button to submit to shit i agree a thousand percent with you
the counter to that is it can be said that a lot of that hip hop ain't make no money.
These niggas want to make some money now.
So they're going to play the game.
You can make money doing it.
I'm just saying that that that was the art.
That's when MC Hammer came out and was making all the money and was dancing and doing everything that that is standard today.
They called him a sellout.
They called him a clown.
And they said that that's not hip-hop because hip-hop then they couldn't even fathom people crossing over yeah hip-hop was
whoa you sold 10 million that's not okay with us oh you took care of your whole squad and went
bankrupt doing it we laughing at you and clowning you like some of that shit niggas laughed at in 89, 90, and 91 is what y'all are doing.
And now y'all are finding excuses and cool ways to justify it.
It ain't hip hop.
Dog, every single time somebody becomes mega successful in whatever they doing, we got to demonize that shit because everybody not doing it.
Yo, dog, in black people business.
Oh, that's the illuminati
oh yeah he sold his soul like it always gotta be something to demonize you for making uh uh uh
breaking the ceiling on what was normal it's always something yeah like mc hammer was being artistic
i'm putting on different pants sequence my shits glitter them shits out so when I move, niggas can see.
Make it baggy so the moves can be accentuated.
Yo, find a way to put fucking 100 dancers back here with a horn section.
And those niggas, just up there bugging.
Hip hop is like, get the fuck out of here.
That ain't hip hop.
All right, so I want to know where those people are today.
The purest gatekeepers. I don't want to call it that,
but where are you people today to call out what's hip-hop and what's not?
Because everything that's hip-hop today is not hip-hop.
At all.
True.
Based on that old, rigid description.
Yeah, but the one thing you shouldn't lose is your power and ability to dictate.
I'm not telling you not to do deals
with people that could better your career
or not to compromise.
I compromised.
Hey, Kevin Lyle said I couldn't make an album
with 15 depressing songs.
He said I needed to give him two songs
that he could do something with.
Hey, all right.
And I hit mine out the park
not knowing nothing about that shit.
Can I ask you a question?
What's hip-hop?
I know what the origins of it it the five elements and what people what is it defined defined as now what is it
what is hip-hop now even when even when i hear people say culture like what is culture well
when the purists say culture we we talking about people that the five elements kind of raised so and i guess when i say hip-hop i'm talking about
rebelliousness because that's how it kind of started with the fly the fly the fly niggas
from each borough meeting together and mcs on the mic niggas calling out their dance squad
shouting niggas out, just not doing whatever
everybody else outside was doing.
And today it's the exact opposite.
It's whatever is going on outside,
we try to make it hip-hop or find a hip-hop artist
to sell the Happy Meal or sell the Popeye sandwich.
Hey, hip-hop people, that audience that y'all have,
that's super important, but we won't value it
like it's
important bring them over here let us utilize them for art the real shit that we make money on and
let let us give you this advance let us give you this little bit of money let us give you this
small opportunity ain't none of these niggas popping like that it's drake it's three it's
it's seven niggas popping yo i don't want to hear all this shit.
None of y'all are popping.
And not only are y'all doing hip hop. You niggas is making $1.75 a year and fronting.
That's what's going on.
It is, no, back to your number.
It's your number.
You got it right.
It is a small percentage of people that hit the jackpot.
Let me ask you a question.
Everybody else is fighting for their fucking lives.
Let me ask you a question.
That's a serious result.
The person that was completely broke, you think they played a game for that 175 happily?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's all I'm saying.
Hold on, let me finish.
Let me finish.
It is a very small percentage that hit the jackpot,
but it's another percentage that just get out.
Cool.
So would you rather be an artist, right,
an artist that could tour for 20 years based on your artistry,
or you want to be the gimmick that made the 175 for four years
and now you broke?
You asking me?
I would want the longevity.
It's artists that might never made millions and millions of dollars,
but they fed their family off of hip-hop for a good 20 years.
They're using your desperation to trick you.
Yeah.
They're using your desperation to trick you.
That's what the old record deals was.
That's what they're doing.
They just find a way to dress it up today.
So my messaging to that would be,
because I'm never encouraging people to not play the game.
True.
Got you.
I'm never, that's not what I'm encouraging.
I'm encouraging what DJ Mustard said a little while back,
which was you play the game trying to figure it.
It's all a Monopoly game.
Yes.
It's all a Monopoly game.
We play the game and figure figure it's our Monopoly game. It's our Monopoly game. We play the game
and figure out
how to win. While I'm playing the game
how to win. That's what it
should be. You sign up.
Alright, come on. On to something happier.
Melissa Ford. Yes, sir.
In our What's Going On segment today.
You are our
What's Going On segment.
Play the music. I'm coming. Would somebody like that? We need the music you are our what's going on. You are this time. Play the music, play the music. I'm coming, I'm coming.
Would somebody like, we need the music first.
What's going, that conscientious shit, fuck me.
Ooh, the live version from Melway.
Not the live from Melway.
They was screaming for more, Marva's getting pussy.
You hear, wait, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. They were screaming for more was getting pussy you
They're both random they said like that one pump it up
Our good sister Mel. God.
That nigga is clean.
Go.
Oh, no.
I can't listen to this.
I'm going to need a record.
You might have to let that old shit jam and keep playing.
No, I'll play the record.
That live shit is fire.
Marvin was the man.
Stupid-ass dad, right?
Mm-hmm.
Oh, that's right.
His dad killed him
So sad
If that don't tell you
We come from trauma
And pain
God damn
Our good sister
Melissa Ford
Boy I love
When the bad bitches
Get a dog sitter
That's my favorite thing
In the world
When the baddies
Find somebody
To watch the kids
And the dog
That house gonna be Unattended to for a little while hey my good sister mel for the luggage to work you know
we got to find gonna find a way my good sister mel is leaving the pod straight on a flight
they talking about lulu lemon on the waist downs In case you was confused
I also have a theory that says
Women know what they doing
When they throw some of that lululemon on
What?
Absolutely
Yeah, it ain't just that
Cash, cashletic shit
No, no, nigga
That is the norm
Assletic
Come talk, nigga
I'm pissed
You know we got to find it
You know, I get that.
If Mel Ford did not work in Jersey,
I believe that she would live in Brooklyn or Harlem
or anywhere where there is a brownstone.
Facts.
Brownstone Bay has been born.
You see the brownstone in the park.
But what we're asking about here is
your caption underneath your picture that said,
what did it say, gentlemen?
It said, New York NYC is so good for my soul.
Mm-hmm.
What's going on?
What's going on?
What's going on?
Oh, what's going on?
Ah.
Mel, what's going on?
What did you mean by New York is so good for my soul?
Because the fellas have some theories.
I'm sure you fucking do.
We'll let you get a chance to tell us.
I got about two.
I'm sure you do.
I mean, I'm outside
outside.
What part of New
York though?
Is there a certain
area of New York?
It don't even matter.
Nah.
It's the whole
trust.
Summertime.
I was in Harlem
at the block parties.
There we go.
Now we're getting
to it.
Rollerblading through
Central Park.
You were rollerblading.
I was rollerblading
through Central Park. Shit was sitting.ading. I was rollerblading through Central Park.
She was sitting.
I was sitting.
I was hanging out on Stone Street with the Wall Street crowd.
I'm popping.
You're all over the place.
I'm all over the place.
Y'all heard that?
Ping pong in Soho.
Give me consent to make my next joke.
Yeah, please.
Me too.
Give me some consent.
Consent, consent.
You hear that, Odie?
Mel High?
We get three.
I got consent.
We got consent.
I got consent, you bitch ass niggas.
Every fucking part.
Oh my God.
Mel, how could they treat a joist?
Go.
I think that Mel got a good taste of dick and now she is gone.
Our good sister is.
Oh, what's going on?, oh what's going on?
Yeah, what's going on?
Yeah, I think Mel got a good taste of penis,
she outta here.
What's good for the hole is good for the soul, man.
Whoa!
Whoa!
Whoa!
Yo, Pogs, where do you get these one liners from?
He's good.
My god, so good.
It worked, I'm the record and it closed the laptop. Pog God, you fucking creep.
Yo, you are Levi's wearing pervert, man.
You are a nasty white dude.
Good for the soul.
You're a nasty white man.
Oh my God.
What's good for the whole is good for the soul.
Nah, one of them artsy niggas.
I'm putting that on a shirt.
For sure. One of them dreadlock niggas. Yeah, it's one of them artsy niggas. I'm putting that on a shirt. For sure.
One of them dreadlock niggas.
Yeah, it's one of them artsy dreadlock niggas.
But that's what I don't like about them.
They be doofy niggas.
They be like niggas that you too bad for some of the behavior.
Let me tell you, I love all the narratives that you guys come up with.
Why don't you bag somebody cool for a change?
I don't even want to challenge them because they're so fucking
entertaining I love keep it keep it coming keep it coming that's what you told him that's what
you told him that's why you love me you saw somebody that that they think they think that
they go grabbing up under the underboob she was with one of the step Bob Marley nephews. I am like a lion in Zion.
You know them niggas make that Magnum drink.
Hear the children crying.
One love.
Hear the children crying.
That nigga, that nigga, she felt it in her soul, bro.
You think of the movie coming out, nigga, you can act like that?
As a matter of fucking fact,
yes, but let me tell you
something.
Hold on one second here.
Waiting too long.
Big man.
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Big man!
Hey, nah, I'm with him.
I got some of that.
Any words for when you land, huh?
Uh, uh.
Lord!
Shut up!
Wrong time.
Anything you want to say before the beat drop?
No, no, I can't wait for the beat to drop, though. I really can't wait.
Oh, Lord.
You make me look good.
Netflix.
Time to pop six.
I'm running out of here.
I said, oh, shit.
You want to do this with that wobble?
Nah, nah.
That little ho shit looked hard.
That shit went from rusty to busty. That little old shit looked all right now. That shit went from rusty to busty.
That little old shit.
Sorry.
Yo, that little old shit was, whoa.
Mel, that nigga, not your kinks, girl.
Look at you.
Mel, where you going?
You're hilarious.
How you moving like that now, Mel?
Where you going?
I'm going to fucking Atlanta.
She can hardly walk before.
Now she flexing.
The festival this week is cool.
Hey, she going to Ruggs party.
And Ruggs.
Why you going to Atlanta?
I have some business there.
She said work.
She said work.
I have some business there.
Tyler Perry Studios business.
Work, work, work, work, work.
Oh, she got me listening to that shit.
Nigga going to beat that. You guys Studios business. Work, work, work, work, work. Oh, she got me listening to that shit. Nigga going to beat that.
You guys will see.
Wake up.
You guys will see
in due time.
Okay.
That shit is touching her soul.
Wake up and act
like nothing's wrong.
A lot of that shit
touching her spirit.
That nigga got her.
Don't point at me.
He got her.
Yeah, he got her.
I don't think you guys
really, really
take into account
that you live
in the greatest city in the world.
New York City.
That's facts.
This is the greatest city in the world.
I got to see where she's going with it.
Yeah, don't say that because you came and got your room back.
No.
Because you left here.
You left.
You abandoned us for L.A.
I did.
I did.
Don't come back now.
Now your shit's shaking and now you love New York.
I was like, fuck this weather.
I can't stand it anymore.
I want perpetual sunshine.
That's it.
Are you walking
through the airport like this?
I sure am.
I sure am.
You're going to skip
right to the front of the line.
Not even.
You're giving these young ones
a challenge for their money, man.
Look at you.
You don't even need pre-check.
No.
You must be pre-TSA.
I'm kidding.
I'm trying to get a guy
on a cart
to take me to my gate.
No, you're down with clear.. You down with Clear right here.
Yo, something happened.
T and A.
I'm telling you something happened.
The power of dick happened.
The energy is there.
Something happened.
That nigga lit that fire.
That nigga lit that fire.
That smile has did everything good.
You know how like, yo.
She ain't been in here to even try to weaponize her womanhood since that dick happened.
Ish, Ish, Ish, you understand this.
She was backed up.
Now she released.
Nigga. You know how when the oven don't work no more, sometimes you gotta get under there and light the pilot. womanhood. She was backed up. Now she released.
When the oven don't work no more,
sometimes you got to get under there and light the pilot.
And once you light the pilot, the shit,
we cooking again.
This is one of my old ovens.
This is one of them.
You need logs.
That's a pot belly oven.
This is one of them different type ovens.
This is not a Kenmore
that's a oven
one of them
old pizza ovens
that nigga went under there
and lit that pilot bro
I'm telling you
oh my god
oh lord
okay
yeah
alright what else
what else is going on
what's next on the
what's next
on the menu
I mean on the docket
what's next on the docket
what's next on the docket
it's a fool, yo.
Okay.
What was it that you,
when I walked in,
you said something about,
something we tweeted?
Oh yeah, you freaky.
Wait, me?
Freaky.
Freak.
I'm freaky.
Freak.
Freak.
Freaky, yo.
What'd you do, E?
What'd you do, E?
I don't know.
I love that song.
I've never even heard that song.
Well, Rock On would play this song.
Rock On is playing, you know.
Why you won't come out with me?
I know that you don't know how weird this sounds,
but it should never be that me and Nitty hit a strip club.
Before me and Ish.
I agree with that.
I know the audience don't know how wild that sounds,
but that is nuts.
Yo, this guy is crazy.
When you feel better, can it one night?
Sure, bro.
Not a problem.
You said that weeks ago, and we never did it.
You on the menu, but I'ma be easy.
You put your shit together too.
Nice.
Go ahead.
Matching, cleaning up.
Nigga looking younger and younger by the day.
Losing weight.
Freaky, yo.
Yeah.
Keep on with it.
E, you did some real light skin shit on your Instagram, Twitter.
Just say it, nigga.
You was being vulnerable, but I was
crying. Is that what you're calling it?
I was crying in my
house.
You wrote like
five paragraphs about you
having sex wrong
because you never know how
love, you didn't know how love you didn't know how love
you did know the intimate act and that we know why the fuck you did that the
real meaning me come on you know you'd be going through some shit when you get
that nut out here we go here Here we go. Here we go.
Because he put this on his main page.
He didn't even put it in a story like a real nigga.
A nigga can't grow.
All right, go ahead. If you grow, real niggas normally want the growth to be deleted in 24 hours.
You put it in the main page.
Let me read it for you.
It goes something like this.
Something I felt motivated to shit.
I hate niggas. Yo, niggas don't even talk like that. motivated to share something I felt motivated to share
in hopes others especially
the homies oh that's us
will understand
avoid and or correct
if applicable I've never
heard you use this many big words
I built up don't interrupt me I built up almost 20 plus years Correct if applicable. I've never heard you use this many big words.
Wait, what?
I built up, don't interrupt me.
I built up almost 20 plus years experience of having sex.
Only to get to this age and time in my life where I've realized that I never truly experienced or appreciated what the act is about or meant for until recent times.
It sounds like what we talked about at the beginning of the pod.
Very rarely, if ever,
was I actually connecting with someone's mind,
body, or soul.
Let me put my fucking light FM voice on
for this shit.
This nigga is sexy.
An addiction formed from past traumas,
which I won't get into that,
and you corny for trying to get pussy off past traumas. Anytime you say which I won't get into that. And you corny for trying to get pussy off past traumas.
Anytime you say, hey, I won't get into that,
but past traumas, like, stop it, nigga.
Nah, let me tell you.
Tell me what happened.
Yeah, what happened?
You can confide in me.
Wait.
But ignored because as men,
we're told by other damaged people
that our unhealthy appetite is normal.
What?
Almost every past encounter was to stroke
my own ego. Nigga.
Impress others. Add a
name number to the list
or just done out of pure habit.
Damn, he was getting pussy like that.
He was getting a lot of pussy.
Got a lot more
when this one out. To turn 40
to turn 40 and realize.
I'm telling you, when niggas turn 40.
When niggas turn 40, they get all stupid like this.
Look, to turn 40 and realize that you've never truly enjoyed, embraced, or experienced the real meaning behind an act you've done so much until now,
makes me sad at times.
I boo-hoo when I'm home.
Did I say that?
Oh.
Yo, what the fuck are you doing? But I'm glad I've came to this realization in the past few years
and hope others who share in this issue gain the insight, strength,
and need to change, and need to change this for themselves
and those who are affected by it.
Live, learn, love, and love.
No, he didn't say that.
Yes, he did.
Now, Amani.
He was looking at the kitchen wall with the little square.
You know what's so funny?
I watch you niggas go up here and say that these
motherfuckers yadi and them was wrong when that girl sat on that couch and told them about her
past traumas because they didn't go ahead and give her the space to speak it and now you're
your your brothers are here making fun of me sharing and having a vulnerable moment
with other men you trying to get pussy.
Nigga, stop.
That's what I was talking to, yo.
Nigga, you slick-ass nigga.
That's a good way
you fucking trauma-bonded-ass nigga.
Fuck you.
How dare you use
those smooth-ass lines
to get pussy?
I'm not trauma-bonded.
I was really sharing something
that I felt
that I've come to the realization.
How many people hit your...
Let me see your phone right now.
How many people hit you in the DM?
Ooh, can we bring that game back?
Let's see your phone.
Will we pat each other, look in each other's phones
and read DMs?
You see my phone, dig up, here my DM.
My phone right over there.
Wanted to wrap you with my warm embrace.
Wait, so I'm the only person here that understands that?
That sounds like I'm like.
Melissa understands.
Oh, you woulda ran at the mail at the bar yeah
that works that works that works on some other goofy who is this supposed to work on what was
the light bulb moment that you were having oh brother got him i've had it worked light bulb
moment he's so mature i've had had this moment for quite some time now.
Okay.
And I wanted to express it
in some type of way.
And I figured,
why not express it?
Put it in my notes.
Write it.
Sometimes it's good
to just write it down
and read it yourself.
Tell your followers, right?
And I posted it on my page.
Okay.
No, I figured you on that.
Ice.
Ice. You wanted to express it in some way, right?
Oh, this nigga's a smooth nigga boy.
As an R&B singer, you wanted to find a way
to express, you couldn't find a way to express
these thoughts that you had.
Let's be very clear.
Let's be very clear.
I have not put out a project.
See what I mean about these artists?
Artistry is dead.
I have not put out a project
since 2017 I know what what was I going to do outside of write this get it off my chest and
share it in the easiest form which would be my page how else would I share this so besides um
these heathens and their response right now what what was the response on the page? You're going to have to crazy my DM too, yo.
I don't want to, you know what I mean?
But a lot of men who lost their virginity the way you did.
Damn, now you're going to feel like that.
So now niggas going to hit me.
Oh, how did you lose your virginity?
What porn star are you?
It gets tricky.
You lost your virginity to a porn star?
No.
The porn star babysitter. A lot of niggas lost their virginity. You lost your virginity to a porn star? No. The porn star babysitter.
A lot of niggas love babysitters.
You lost your virginity, right?
No.
Oh, you was babysitting.
I just wanted to be shown, though, when you try to be vulnerable.
It don't work, yeah, that's true.
Ain't no safe space.
Y'all wouldn't even allow me to grow because it's coming from a genuine place.
But let's just say it wasn't coming from a genuine place.
Y'all wouldn't even allow me the space
to even think that it's possible
to grow in that manner, right?
I'm just supposed to be the nasty freak nigga
in my whole life.
Yo, let me ask you a question.
Well, normally niggas that lost their virginity
like you are, they're gone.
What do you think girls that were in relationships
with you, meaningful relationships,
felt about your post?
I don't care.
I don't know.
I don't give a fuck what they thought about it.
I ain't with them no more.
That's how you answer a good question.
And to be honest, this ain't about them.
It's about me.
Because they might have been genuine in their meaningful how they met
and how they looked at me.
That's not saying that I didn't appreciate them.
I just had a disconnection of what I was getting from them.
Yeah,
little czar pants hit different
when he started talking like this.
Yo,
this little church outfit he got.
This shit hit different.
I'm going to fuck out of here.
It's me.
Nah,
man.
I ain't mad at that.
And I'm joking,
but I do understand some of that.
I do understand some of that.
Actually,
we started this podcast talking about that.
Yeah,
we did.
Yeah,
we did.
We did.
Mel. Yes. Give us an Yeah, we did. We did. Mel.
Yes.
Give us an update on Jonathan Majors.
Yay!
Yay!
Yeah.
All right.
Keep it short and sweet.
Jonathan Majors' girlfriend was arrested on charges of assault.
But the prosecutor is not going to pursue any charges.
So nothing's going to happen with that.
But he is still going to trial.
Yeah, they dismissed his dismissal.
He tried to get it thrown out based on a new information found.
The judge said, no, you still got to go to trial.
So they're still going to trial.
But they arrested her.
The reason why they arrested her was because he issued a um a counter claim against her
oh oh yeah so it's procedure yeah so basically he filed assault charges against her she was in turn
arrested but the prosecutor's office is not going to follow through with the charges they're not
going to pursue anything okay okay that's basically what happened so that got all the headlines
because she was arrested but the main point
is that she was arrested
based on the fact
that he filed charges
against her.
Got it, man.
Yeah.
So it was a bullshit arrest.
How they gonna, honestly?
Yeah, that's what it was.
It was a bullshit arrest.
It was a bullshit arrest, yeah.
Procedure.
Anna shit really made
the headlines.
All the headlines.
That dumb ass shit.
We finally saw
a picture of her.
Oh, the picture came out
back in March
Somebody had like leaked it
Plus she was like outside
You know after the alleged assault
She's partying and shit like that
You know so she's on camera and stuff
So yeah that's the update
So he's going to trial next month
He made a big leap from her to making good
Cause she look whoop
Well there's that.
Yeah.
Then the white whisperer.
Wow.
Salute.
What you call him?
The white whisperer.
He whispered to the whites.
Listen.
No, I don't.
That's Keem.
An ish.
So now you're.
How do I get in this?
Yeah.
Like you're shooting.
Like you're chicken and white.
You're abandoning your white counterparts for a sexy model next topic uh before we get to the
next topic i want to let you guys out there know whatever i said about johnson majors
i'm going to see this new bodybuilding shit that's coming out whatever movie he got coming
where he had to go work out all extra to be muscle-bound man.
I'm going to see it.
I'm going to see it.
He took all of the anger from the shit that niggas was saying about him and hit the gym.
And it's going to produce some content.
I'm going to see the him and Megan Good love story when it come out.
I'm back.
Hey, like I said, Loki season two is out. He's in it. And the shit come out. I'm back. Hey, like I said, Loki season two is out.
He's in it
and the shit is fire.
I'm here.
You saw it already.
Well, it's a season.
It's like episode four
or five or something like that.
He's king.
Yeah, he's king.
Oh, also,
the John Gotti doc on Netflix.
Thumbs up.
You seen it?
I saw it.
You seen it?
Get Gotti.
Nope, nope.
Listen,
you won the fucking doc war, okay? You won the war You seen it? You seen it? Get Gotti. Nope. Nope. Listen. Did you even know it?
You won the fucking Doc War, okay?
You won the war.
I don't ever want to hear your name.
Come on.
Yeah, you can't downplay like that now.
You're right.
You was popping shit before.
I was popping shit.
That John Gotti shit was hot.
Absolutely right.
I missed it.
I was too busy being outside.
Reach out and touch.
Get down on it.
Yeah, you got gotta get to that
next phase of getting dick
where you watch
Docs with the Dick
yo come on Joe
enough
leave her alone
leave her alone man
enough
you always do that too
you phony ass nigga
I'm gonna get you
when she wasn't getting dick
nigga we was making fun of her
we clowned her
we gonna clown her
no matter what
alright
I'm
yeah
well you don't do it
cause you still wanna milk off of all't do it because you you still want
to milk off all the deals you're getting you still want you treat her a little different because
you're trying to use her money i get my own deals and some of hers right i get my no i didn't get
no deals from her you got a lot of deals when you were sick yeah i did i get a lot of deals and on
top of that i told you your enemies want to sign me.
Stop.
I don't have to.
Wait, I have enemies?
I'm too humble for that.
I don't have no enemies.
They want to sign me.
Make a blog about that.
Nobody cares.
No, no, no, no.
They don't care.
No, no, yeah, yeah.
Take that out.
Wait, you said enemies?
Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.
If you come up here again
and say somebody want to sign him,
that'd be it.
He'll get a right start on it.
What?
You know, you can make the decision faster. Huh? You can make, I can't make the. That'd be, he'll get a head start on it. You know, you can make the decision faster.
Huh?
You can make,
I can't make the decision,
the contract,
the contract,
you put some type of clause in it.
Got it.
So I have to push you to the edge
to catch me out.
Oh,
man,
that's an idiot.
A clause in the contract.
I'm done with it.
Yo,
what else?
What else?
All right,
we don't care about someone walking for Sean.
Ice, did you pick up your skims?
Nah, they was ordered, though.
Oh, okay.
So you are one of the 25,000 orders that took place within five minutes of the launch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow.
Congrats.
Oh, you're going to look good in them shoes.
Send me a pic.
We'll square up. Yo, square up.
We can square up.
What, if you niggas about to start wearing skims?
We can square up.
Send me a little... You got the white joints?
The tiny, whitey skims?
Ice, just be vulnerable.
Post it on IG.
Yeah, send that to the group chat.
Fuck no.
Yo, send your skims pics to the group chat, my G.
Don't, please.
Yo, dawgsgs how I look
Should I post this
Yeah get your Dwight on man
What
Jesus Christ
Do we have any thoughts
About the rumored
Flopping of Jada Pinkett's book
What's the rumor
How many she sold
Well I don't even know
What book sales are
2700 on Kindle.
I mean, yeah, it's not so much a number.
Authors and biographies that,
autobiographies that she should have beat out.
She did not.
She did not.
Kindle and a lot of the other book charting sites.
She wasn't top five for most of the release week.
That's crazy.
They're saying that Britney's memoir dusted hers.
Oh, shit.
Wow.
As it should.
Well, I mean.
The little blurbs I saw from that,
that shit sounds crazy.
Justin with a black scent or more Will Smith shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Will Smith, who has a podcast coming
called Class of 88
Where he's talking with Latifah
Jazzy Jeff
And just everybody from that class
This is a Wondery product
So shout to them
The trailer looks crazy
That's fire
It does look good
The trailer look crazy
I don't get none of that shit
Me either
I remember you said a long time ago
You ain't really like
You know I ain't with none of that shit nigga
Oh you still feel the same way?
Oh, for sure.
No, that sounds like using his powers for good, though.
Whatever.
I'm not mad at that, but no.
Any thoughts on Jada's book flopping?
No.
Yes.
Oh, niggas don't care?
No.
Yeah, there's thoughts on it.
No, there's thoughts on it.
Y'all care?
Yeah.
Not that I care, but.
Not that I care, but you did that,
and you came back into the media in a negative way
and put in your family,
I don't want to say in harm's way,
because that's a little.
Got to be clear, yeah.
But you brought some more negative attention
to your family for a potential profit,
and now if that profit doesn't come through
and manifest itself,
then what did you
really do it for?
She's going to lean back
on Will.
Lean back.
Lean on him.
I'm glad the book flopped.
Why?
Because hopefully
I mean I know
it's not going to
but I'm glad the book
flopped because
just to show people
that doing all that
extra salacious bullshit
don't necessarily result in sales.
Self-exposure under the guise of transparency
and living my truth type shit.
Yeah, I'm just saying, when you do all of that
and your goal is to sell something,
a lot of times it works.
So it makes more people want to do it.
So I like to see when you go through all this extra shit
and it don't work.
So maybe the next person that was getting ready to do it
just to chase the sale, I'm saying, eh, maybe not because it don't work. So maybe the next person that was getting ready to do it gets to chase the sale
and say,
eh, maybe not
because it might not work.
That's true.
I thought the book
was going to be uninteresting
simply because
her talking points
or like what they were pushing,
using to push the book
was all shit
we already were kind of like
privy to,
the Tupac shit.
Do you guys feel like
the book would have been
more successful
if she didn't go on
such an aggressive press tour?
No, just talk about other things that we might not know about your life here's basically what
i'm asking is it seems like in every single interview she gave away a lot of the book's
content so what's the point of buying the book no so if she had given if she just dropped the book
maybe did one interview with a major media outlet like say gail or whatever the case is
and then just said,
and that's it.
Everybody go buy the book.
It would have done better.
Let's ask Gail to bump her Jay-Z interview for this.
Nah, Mel,
to answer your question,
I don't think so,
because I've seen certain,
it just got to be interesting.
Like, this shit wasn't interesting.
Or you got to have a fan base.
Like, I don't know,
I don't want to insult her,
but I don't know
if her fan base
was that big enough
to really give a fuck. I don't think that she don't want to insult her, but I don't know if her fan base was that big enough to really give a fuck.
I don't think that she gave away most of her book.
I don't believe that.
And I don't believe that it was her, per se,
coming up with the excerpts to promote from the book.
I think she sent out an advanced copy of her book,
and the publications went to what they thought
was the juiciest for their for
their own good and it worked for their she like they ran the numbers up anybody that put the story
about jada and tupac and will and they fucking we were separated they ran numbers up i don't think
that served but no no no no no because a lot of it was her it was she was an interview she just
did a last interview uh i just saw the other day where she said that she and Will Smith were technically separated for seven years until he smacked Chris Rock.
That night they got back together, quote unquote.
And everybody was like, oh, all the women were screaming.
I'm not mad at that.
But again, the excerpts that you're talking about, she's giving the world.
It ain't necessarily the news mediums
that's pulling this salacious shit
from the pre-read copy.
She's giving them the details.
And not just that, bro.
We've seen instances where
the trailer's so damn near the whole movie.
If it's still interesting,
people are going to go see the movie regardless.
Like, this was not interesting.
People just did not give a fuck.
We were tired of J.M. Will, period. T don't want to hear about Tupac being your soulmate.
So it don't matter.
Or him proposing to you.
Or you possibly was a drug dealer.
You so crack it.
Like, it just was like.
We didn't care.
You put most of this story on Instagram for the past couple years.
Yeah, like what else happened in your life?
We watch you on red tape.
We talk.
You and your mom and your daughter talk.
You have all done your conversations about your past.
Like, what else is there for us to know at this point?
I just think the interest wasn't there.
Nobody gave it there.
Yeah, I'm cool.
I don't think it's too late to draw up interest.
I don't think it's too late for them to go back to the drawing board and find a new route,
nor do I think it's too late for the book to actually sell, right?
Like, it might have had a bad first week
or didn't live up to expectations,
but it's still Jada Pinkett Smith.
Then they say books do that, right?
I'm going to read the book.
Books?
And give me like a week or two.
I'll come back in here
with a full assessment on the book.
Would you have time?
Oh, like y'all did for Savior Complex.
I watched it.
I don't have any beef.
All I'm saying is
we waited for us
to go watch something
and get well versed
on something
and we never brought it up.
I told you.
This podcast does not do good
when we'll be back
in three weeks.
We watched it.
They watched it.
I told you.
I tried to watch it.
I came right here
and told y'all.
Hey, I tried to watch it.
Y'all can have that discussion.
I can't do it.
That shit was boring to me
and I checked out quick.
Yeah.
Excuse me.
I cut that shit off, too.
And I cut off the Robin Williams comedy shit.
Why?
Dark Side of Comedy.
It was only 44 minutes.
I don't give a fuck.
What pissed you off?
Everything.
Too sad.
It was sad.
I told you it was fucking sad.
Yeah, but it was, like, from minute one.
It was really, really, well, it's sad.
It's fucking sad.
From minute one.
Like, they made Mork and Mindy Robin sad.
Yes.
It was, it's a tragic, tragic story, you know?
And we miss Robin Williams.
It wasn't tragic the whole time.
It wasn't tragic the whole time.
No, but I guess because it's a foregone conclusion
as to knowing what the outcome is,
is that watching it back, there is just this,
it's very sad
knowing where it goes.
Put the happy fucking music
there when Robin Williams
is happy, all right?
Stop, don't start out
with the,
or he was a great man.
Like, no,
this nigga's laughing.
Robin Williams
took the comedy scene
by storm when he,
yeah, no,
paint more of that.
More of that.
It was all sad.
It was all sad.
And I'm not saying
I won't go back to it
because I'm the dark god
and you're not.
Yeah.
But,
yeah, we'll see.
Yeah.
Speaking of flopping,
the City Girls
recently did
Breakfast Club
and didn't say
nothing about it.
And then,
man,
they did the
my brain.
Ah! City Girls did the Breakfast club and responded to some of the backlash and criticism about their low album sales which was reported at 6 000 sales and we didn't
know if that was true or not but them responding to it on breakfast club tells me there's legitimacy
behind it yeah they they blamed it on or attribute that blame but they
attributed it to uh timing promotion and just disagreements with their team
yes everybody ain't on the same page i mean and it did just drop out of nowhere so promotion was
lacking the only thing we had was that one week announcement. The BET award pop up.
Yeah, that's not, only certain people can pull that off.
Like, yo, I got something dropping next week.
Everybody can't do that.
Did they have a single?
They didn't have a single?
They had a single, Good Love.
They had a few singles.
They put out.
They just didn't.
Nothing stuck.
They spoke to that too.
They said a lot of the songs that are on this project,
they thought were singles two years ago
and had big fights with their team about it.
And now those records are just out
and that's not what they wanted to do.
I don't think they should do music anymore.
Or the JT girl should go and probably be a solo artist.
Once you say her name, you don't have to say girl.
My bad.
Yeah, I don't think they say her name You don't have to say girl My bad Yeah Yeah nah
I don't
I don't think they need
To do music no more
I think Karisha
Got a nice little space
And probably creating
A little media lane
For himself
If she can
And JT can go
Do the music shit
The group itself
To me is just
Might have run that course
It's 100% to me
Brandon's course
I don't think that they
Can't sustain themselves Separately But together It's 100% to me, Brandon's course. I don't think that they can't sustain themselves separately,
but together it's just like.
All right, let's all play our record exact.
If y'all have the city girls, who is breaking them up?
Me.
I'm not breaking them up.
Me.
The same reason you just said.
That's why I'm not breaking them up.
The same reason why I pushed for the Chloe and Hailey's girls to break up.
Some things just run its course.
It's dope,
but at some point
you need to see
what possibility you have
of building a brand outside
and then maybe possibly
bringing it back.
There's no cachet
of city girls outside of,
what?
What are you looking for them
to do together right now
at this moment?
Just do the same Ratchet songs?
Yeah. Okay, cool. there's other women on their own who's doing it 10 times better than them right that's what i said before they
they've been kind of lapped a little bit like cool so you've been lapped you allow yourself to be
lapped no no don't catch up go do what you caricia even if you didn't wasn't supposed to win don't
catch up if i'm the label see right if I'm the label and I got Carisha,
like you said,
this platform,
all this star power attention she got,
there's no way in hell
am I going to split them up
and now let you go solo?
And you just attack.
I'm going to use,
I'm using,
this is an impact
number to that game.
The last part
and everything you're saying
sounds like why artists
shouldn't follow trends.
You got Carisha who's building this brand and you see she's doing her thing outside.
This to me would be the perfect time to remove her from the group and let her do her own stuff.
I'm the label.
I'm just trying to make money and run numbers.
Yo, but that's the other reason.
Hold on.
Let's get back to this artist creator caveman conversation for a minute.
let's get back to this artist creator caveman conversation for a minute because you know,
the music business,
the music business is full of biters and Dick riders,
right?
Even if you're not being reactionary,
even if you're not being reactionary and you come out dictating,
you know that in the next one to two years,
that will be bit eight months.
Yeah.
I'm being generous.
That will be copied and it might
be copied by niggas that's talented and it might be copied by niggas that can do it better than you
so now that person that was reactionary or not dictating now you just fucked it's over we're
not going to you for what we was going to you for and you know if you're not constantly trying to innovate then you're done you can't do it again i mean what if i would what
if i could what if i pivoted off what if i got hot in that time frame and now i got a podcast so i
got a show i got i got something else now that i don't really gotta do them because there's no
money here i'm trying to make money i'm not trying to be this long, the greatest artist ever and have the career.
I'm just asking you.
I think that leads to my...
Go ahead.
I think it extends to my point of, okay, you're doing your thing.
You're trying to make money.
At this very moment, you're not hot in this space.
In the music space, the group was not hot.
Correct.
Cold.
You still have a name.
What?
Cold
But that girl
Isn't cold
She's hot on her own
Correct
So why don't we pour
More of the energy
In building her up
In that space
Give this girl
A space of her own
And then maybe down the line
When you both are
Smoking hot
Individually
We can possibly
Bring this back together
And make it work
It's not the same entity
but hold on
I was just getting ready
to say that
real quick
when is it
I'm totally different
she's hot over there
she's not hot with us
she's not hot with us
she's hot getting money
over there
me and Ice a group
right
you're a music exec
me and Ice a group
we had some success
Ice now goes over here
and gets success
from something different
that you don't get,
you're not in control of.
It's no guarantee that
when I go do my own solo project,
one, it's going to be successful, but two,
because you are successful over there,
nigga, I'm going to keep your ass
right here and build off of
your individual success.
It ain't no guarantee. From the company standpoint
only, that's what we're speaking from.
Okay, no, cool.
I think these labels,
these companies still know
that there's still
invested interest
if whether you are
exactly involved
in the project
or what the person's doing
outside of that,
if you start to make yourself hot,
it still benefits
the label at some point.
It might not benefit them
at the very moment.
As the group.
But she's still a. As the group.
But she's still a part of the group.
And if she's still a part of the group and she's still just rising her name
and getting her shine individually,
it at some point
could still help the group.
Of course.
But you wouldn't let her break up.
But it's not so much of a breakup.
It's let them develop themselves
individually
so that we can probably
have a possibility
Of getting this group hot again
Now we done put out some shit
It's cold
We ain't got no single
And now we don't want to hit
Nothing else
A lot of people that break up individually
And get hot
They don't come back to the group
They usually do
Think about it
Shit
Think about it
No no no
When they come back to the group
They sit there and say
Hey dog I'm hot
You not
We not splitting this this way no more Who Who came back to the group No we not doing that A lot of niggas When they come back to the group, they sit there and say, hey, dog, I'm hot. We not splitting this this way no more.
Who?
Who came back to the group?
No, we not doing that.
A lot of niggas don't come back to the group.
I was just reading this up.
Almost every group that you know,
whether they wanted to come back
or did not want to come back.
To tour, but not come back to.
They come back and they do a project
or album in some type of way.
We've seen Michael do it.
We've seen Bobby do it.
What about George Michael, nigga?
We ain't seen Michael do it.
George Michael.
Hold on, wait.
He did. That little comeback
Family tour
Justin Timberlake
Ain't never come back
First off
Listen
Let's get one thing straight
We saw Michael come back
To the group
In the height of Thriller
Wait what
He didn't even do
A Thriller tour
He went and skipped
His own Thriller tour
And did a group album
And did a victory tour
At the height of his career
To help my brother
So you have seen
Whatever it was Can't argue with him you have seen whatever it was for.
Can't argue with him
on the mic show.
Yeah.
Whatever it was for.
You saw Bobby come back.
You got us.
You saw Beyonce come back.
When?
What do you mean?
Y'all naming some names
in the City Girls talk.
For real?
Y'all doing great.
George Michael,
you know what that is?
Hey, listen,
it was just a quick question
to get us to play executive.
I'm just telling you.
That's it.
Start a group. I'm the executive. You ain't'm just telling you. That's it. Start a group.
You ain't going nowhere while you hot, shorty.
Mel, real quick, before you go on your little escapade trip.
Yes.
Give me five things a gentleman should have in his house.
Five things a gentleman should have in his house.
As you do that, any one of you men can give me five things that a lady should have in her house.
Wet wipes.
I judge.
Wet wipes is important.
I will judge.
I'm a little different.
I ain't going to hold you.
Air freshener.
Go ahead, yo.
I need some suspense music or something I want to say a stocked fridge but
sorry okay
how would I say this like in its
entirety I want to say like
glassware but I want to say like
I want to have a complete set
of actual dinnerware.
Yes.
Not paper plates
and fucking plastic cups.
I mean, that's going to be
in any nigga's house.
That's a suspense music.
Towels. A set of towels um clean sorry a set of clean towels um proper bedding and pillows
how many multiple sets no no no my pillows six. Why you say that so lusty, nigga?
Nah, I'm just kidding.
I'm not one of those girls that needs like six, seven pillows on the bed.
Yeah, no, no, no.
I sleep with like one pillow.
It's a good pillow, one pillow.
Yeah.
I was in public, shit.
Yeah.
All right, that's a good list.
Any fellas?
Any fellas?
A clean house.
You got to have a clean bathroom.
Facts.
I agree.
You know, your house could be a little, you know, life is life, but you got to have a clean bathroom.
Wait, you going into a woman's house with her living room and shit dirty, nigga, but her bathroom got to be clean?
Ain't nobody say dirty.
Yo, everything I look for is almost near the bathroom.
Even if your living room is dirty, your bathroom should be clean.
There's a difference between dirty and messy.
And junky.
That's true.
Yeah, that's true.
Dirty and messy.
We got to clarify that.
I'm going to just piggyback.
I think as an adult, you need to have quality linens.
I agree.
And quality kitchenware.
You got your rags.
You got to have a full set of pots and pans.
Bitches don't be having rags. Get your rags. You ain't cooking in here,, you got your rags. She got to have a full set of pots and pans. Bitch, you don't be having rags.
Get your rags.
You ain't cooking in here, mom?
What's rags?
Yeah, them two fingers
ain't cleaning the clip right.
Yes.
I look for a loofah, for sure.
If ain't no loofah
in the bathroom,
we got a problem.
All right.
You know loofahs
are just rife with bacteria?
Dirty.
They're fucking gross. Cool. I still miss the loofah. are just ripe with bacteria? Dirty. They're fucking gross.
Okay, cool.
I still miss the loofah.
This nigga turn that shit loud.
This nigga's knocking the laptop over.
Think about it, that makes sense though.
They dirty.
Why they dirty?
Your kitchen can't be dirty.
Why they dirty?
Because it's got all the skin cells and shit on it.
Okay, so a wash rag is better?
Yeah, because you use it once, then you throw it in the sink.
You use it once, then you throw it in the sink.
You use it once, then you throw it in the sink.
You use it once, then you throw it in the sink.
You use it once, then you throw it in the sink.
You use it once, then you throw it in the sink.
You use it once, then you throw it in the sink.
You use it once, then you throw it in the sink.
You use it once, then you throw it in the sink. You use it once, then you throw it in the sink. You use it once, then you throw it in the sink. You use it once, then you throw it in the sink. You use they dirty? Because it's got all the skin cells and shit on it.
Okay, so a wash rag is better?
Yeah, because you use it once, then you throw it into the washing machine.
Y'all, okay.
Please do not lie and say that y'all all in here use a wash rag once and then throw it.
I do not.
No.
No.
I use it for a couple.
But the wash rag gets washed.
I use it for a couple days.
Nigga, you don't change your loofah once a week.
Yeah, that's true.
Nigga's loofahs be hanging around for a month or so.
That shit smell like fucking loofah get all saggy at the wash. It's smelling nasty, nigga.
How often are you changing your toothbrushes?
They got it hung up, pressed against the dirty bathroom wall.
That shit be crazy.
Soap scum on it.
I take that shit and get right to hit the pubes.
Hey, I didn't think my pubes was the cleanest. Anyway. I take that shit and get right to hit the pubes. Hey, I don't have no...
I didn't think my pubes was the cleanest.
Anyway, give me that shit.
That little feeling when you scrub your old shit with the loofah
and it stand under the water.
It's like cemented shit.
We get your nice and hot.
Oh, nice and hot.
This shit like disinfectant on your body.
That shit be like...
I was dirty right there
right
get that shit
what
whatever it is
I don't care
judge me
judge me
alright I got two part
of the show questions
for y'all
let's hear it
one is a gender war
one is
one is actually
a pretty good question
and this goes
this is from
who the hell is this?
Pullen Terrell.
Terrell Pullen, however you say it.
Last week, too.
Oh, yeah?
Mm-hmm.
Pullen Terrell.
Oh, yeah, now I see.
He got like seven questions up here.
This one's pretty good, though.
Joe, you and Melissa have been famous for a very long time.
Maybe before social media became a thing.
Ain't no maybe about it.
Ain't no maybe about it.
Definitely.
Your co-hosts have gained more fame since joining the pod.
Oh, chill.
Chill.
It's chill.
He didn't mean that.
He know you've been famous before the pod.
He made a mistake.
I was never famous.
He made a mistake.
I would love to hear you guys compare gaining fame now to gaining fame before social party. He made a mistake. He made a mistake. I would love to hear you guys compare
gaining fame now
to gaining fame
before social media.
When trolls had to work
much harder to voice
an opinion.
Do you all feel like
you've gained more love
or more hate
since becoming
more well known?
Hate for me.
Absolutely hate.
Hate for me.
Thousand percent hate.
I don't respect
new age fame. I don't. i don't respect new age fame i don't
i don't respect these niggas that get online and fucking crash their motorcycle into the divider
and become famous i don't i don't that ain't it for me when i was in the barbershop at six year
old six years old and bud from the cosby show was in there i was excited i went and got me a
pen and pad because who knows when the fuck
I was going to see Bud again.
And that was Bud.
He was on TV.
Like, it was a thing.
I never, today in this new age,
it's just, yeah.
Yeah, it's freaky.
Freaky.
These niggas ain't really famous.
It's clout.
It's not fame.
Infamy.
Depends on what they doing.
Nigga, Mr. Beast could walk down
a New York street
who?
Mr. Beast
who the fuck is that?
what about him?
and nobody would know a thing
he's one of the
and nobody would know a thing
what do you mean?
I'm just saying
he wouldn't be
what do you mean what I mean?
they wouldn't
he's not so recognizable
Mr. Beast
do you know who that is?
I know Mr. Beast on YouTube
yes
if he walked by you
would you be able to
yes I would
okay
well because you
do you think that most people
on a New York street would be able to do that I
say no okay I compare that the thing that where you could like like a damn
Mike Tyson or somebody that can't step out without a mob or the most famous
name in the world but that's the same argument that I'm snooping no in his
face with Mike Tyson they close but Mike Tyson's more famous umop that's the same argument Snoop ain't nowhere near famous than Mike Tyson they close
but Mike Tyson's
more famous
but that's what I say
when you talk about us
you know what I'm saying
like I don't say
that we famous
yeah like I don't think
that
I don't think that at all
I think that we popular
but I don't think
we famous
notoriety
you know what I'm saying
for my man's question
I know myself
I can't compare the two
Cause I don't know
It was like pre
Internet era
Sure
Versus now
You know what I'm saying
Like I don't know
What the two things are
I think pre internet
It was harder
I think your talent
And all of that shit
Really had to come to play
Yeah
You know what I'm saying
Without so much
Internet influence
Cause the internet can influence somebody
on how they really feel about you.
Mm-hmm.
True, true.
Before the internet,
the media told you who was famous.
True.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
Like, that was a big thing
when I was watching the John...
That John Gotti doc,
you know, that nigga was...
He was wild.
It was fire, son.
He beat a case from every agency
until the last one,
and they had to flip on him even then. But by the time he beat the case from every agency until the last one and they had to flip on him even then but
by the time he beat the third case he's on the cover of time he's on the cover of this building
he's mad as hell he actually they said he partly beat the third case because he was so well liked
and well loved and his public persona was just lovable. The news people was going to his hood where the gangster niggas was hanging out,
trying to get the town to, how do you feel about John Gotti?
I feel safe here.
Yeah, we love him.
Because of John Gotti.
Like, they help us with the bags.
My car has been stolen in every neighborhood but this one.
Yeah, the little Italy neighborhood, yeah.
And in the last trial, a big part of why he
lost was... They made his lawyer not be
able to represent him. No, they all came
together. Both agencies
came together and Sammy the Bull...
The agencies did come together. They did. But
when the agencies came together and they
started... The lawyer couldn't represent him
in that last trial. When they started playing
all the tapes that they had
because they had so much recorded of him.
From back in the day, yeah.
It changed the jury's
perception of him
because now he's cursing a lot.
They never really heard him curse.
He talking about whacking niggas.
Killing niggas, yeah.
So they basically
assassinated his character.
Oh, for sure, for sure.
They just said,
oh yeah, he did this.
But while I was watching,
I was like, damn,
that's ill that one of the most,
arguably the most famous gangster of all time was like a darling.
Yeah.
They made the stars.
A lot of them niggas.
Today, a lot of these stars are not, they not handpicked.
No.
And we had this conversation a couple months ago on the pod.
I think your charisma and your personality go into that.
So when you get a nigga on camera
and he could charm you he could wow you it's like oh all right i'm gonna fuck with him and i brought
up 50 like when 50 started talking you just be glued to the tv yo he's funny he's charismatic
he's smart you know i'm saying so you'll be like oh shit like that you just start to now become a
natural fan organically
of this person
without anybody
because how he came out
it was so different
than when he speaks
I'm not even talking
I'm talking about
yeah like
when he started talking
you know all the hood shit
alright cool
but then when he starts
putting it together
you're like yo
this nigga's smart as shit
and they don't know
all the hood shit
that's the funny thing
you know what I'm saying
but when people first
yeah not all of it
yeah but you know how he they marketed him in the very beginning like yo I got shot nine times they don't know all the hood shit. That's the whole point. You know what I'm saying? But when people first, yeah, not all of it, yeah.
But you know how he,
they marketed him
in the very beginning,
like, yo, I got shot nine times.
I did this, I did that,
I did this, and I did that.
If they know all the hood shit,
maybe the John Gotti shit applies.
Sure.
Maybe they view him
as such a menace and a monster
that they can't,
they can't conceive this shit
that you're talking about.
It's possible.
The second question
is a little lengthy.
Please, short on the answers because it is, it's a gender war this should be fast okay and
it starts by saying gender war this is from dtyd85 salute salute salute salute to the whole part of
the show tier yo this month this month this month i am adding a fucking shadow tier to patreon
i am we're for a number y'all can come up
here and see what's going on I'm gonna do that I'm doing that's a big one the
numbers gonna be big like it physically come in here okay all right and that
ain't really that that tear really won't be for fans though it's a fit that
number is gonna get the fans out.
That number is for the person
that,
that tier's for the person
that wants to shadow
and learn
and maybe start their
business or
shit like that.
Okay.
We're not just having fans
come in.
Okay.
So you would screen them
even if they can pay,
even if they pay the amount,
you was gonna screen them
to see?
The amount's gonna screen them.
Some of these,
okay.
Oh, then welcome.
Bring a friend.
All right.
I'm going to have
some niggas up here too.
Yo, Joe,
don't get nobody beat up.
I'm going to have
some niggas up here too.
Don't worry about it.
Let me know what day that is.
All right.
And I can hear your brain.
I'm going to bust it down.
I'm going to bust it down.
You try to hide behind Flip as Flip. you try to hide behind flip
as flip you try to hide behind flip being the number one pocket watcher on the pod i don't
know if it's true i don't really watch pockets look at the viola look at viola go out that's
how you know when we get up all right but do you want go ahead read uh this says gender wars okay
a couple decides to split their expenses 50 50 all bills including mortgage they recently had
a child and the man tells the mother of his child that she has to pay the entire bill
because she decided she couldn't have a natural birth and the epidural was the bulk of their $8,000 hospital bill.
It sounds stupid.
It is.
Knowing no other information,
my significant other thought that that was fucked up.
I agree that his reasoning is fucked up,
but I countered that they had an agreement in place
and was only arguing that point my significant other tells
me she thinks that a man should pay the full bill as the woman has to endure pregnancy as well as
labor one regarding the story at the top please your thoughts and two do you feel a man should
pay the full hospital bill if the pregnancy was planned. Huh? This is a stupid question.
This is really...
Go pay your show you bill.
Go touch grass, yo.
Go touch some grass.
I understand his point, though.
Explain it to me. It's stupid.
He's saying they planned a pregnancy.
So in their house, they split
all their bills 50-50.
So the pregnancy, why would that not be split 50-50?
That's his point.
He's saying that the significant other said that the man should pay the bill
because the woman endured the pregnancy.
Y'all have a better question.
Fuck, I have a better question.
Yes, please.
Hey, big dog.
Hey, good luck.
Congratulations.
Oh, I'm sorry that happened to you.
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. I think sorry That happened to you I'm not
I'm not
I'm not
I think your wife
Has got you dead to rights
In that fight
I can't believe you argued
That's it
Yeah that's crazy
Here we go
New Jersey Runner though
Says I'm going to get vulnerable
And maybe too personal
If y'all don't mind
Oh we never mind
We don't mind at all
He's done
I don't mind
They just gonna make fun of you though
Yeah we can't play
Changing faces no more Cause R. Kelly No we can't play Changing Faces no more because R. Kelly.
No, we can't.
You can play whatever you want.
You can play whatever the fuck you want.
I don't mind.
What?
Play whatever songs y'all want, man.
Two years ago, promises is all I heard.
He wrote music for Celine Dion.
Wait a minute.
Let me finish.
Y'all got rid of Sparkle?
Y'all hating, yo.
All right.
This gentleman says, I'm going to get vulnerable and maybe too personal if y'all don't mind.
My male intuition tells me somebody's hands been in my cookie jar, but I have no proof.
Uh-oh.
But the sex ain't been the same lately.
The box.
Sorry, male, for saying box he said that mm-hmm but it just feels a little off she's not pushing
back no more moans ain't the same things just seem off about the sex now my
mentor is all over and I'm hitting her thinking what 15-inch meat been cooking my chick? Yo.
Nah, he's sick.
Causing me a slight case of ED.
How do I get over this mental lapse?
Oh, my bad.
Yo.
It just sounds like he's trash.
Yeah.
You're the problem.
Oh, man.
I'm going to shoot him some bail.
Nah.
I'm going to shoot him some bail. Nah. I'ma shoot him some bail.
Let's say he always was trash,
but trash used to make it hit.
Word.
And now,
she's no longer reacting
to my trash.
The first thing I would say
to myself ain't,
I'm trash,
because I've been trash.
I would say,
who taught you that I'm trash?
You learned,
you went out
and got something somewhere
that's making you come home
and say,
oh, this shit ain't it.
I don't need you no more, dog.
That's typically why
I only fucked,
I only fucked the virgins
like twice,
three times, right?
Because then they went out
and explored.
And then they came back
and the moves didn't hit the same.
The moves didn't quite hit the same.
So I've never had ED, so I can't speak to that.
New Jersey runner, your chick done ran to New York and got some monkey.
New Jersey runner, your chick trying to run away.
She ran to New York and got some monkey.
She put up with it.
She tolerated you because, no, she might not have known.
She could have known.
No, I've heard that from a bunch of girls. might not have known no no she could have known no we we've heard that
for i've heard that from a bunch of girls is he saying physically you don't feel the same too
yes he said everything he said she's not fucking him she's not throwing it back no more you know
how hard that is yeah nigga cracking her yo for the for the she was a good actress
you know there is a distinct possibility, just a distinct one,
that she went and got herself
some toys
and that it's not another man.
She might have bought a rose
and a nice dildo
and that's what's doing the work.
Then y'all gotta fuck her together.
I was about to say,
toys...
Toys don't do that.
Yeah, toys,
as a man,
even if you're trash,
you can incorporate.
You can incorporate the toys
to be a part of your tool bag.
Yes, you can. But now, he the toys to be a part of your tool bag. Yes, you can.
But now, he's not going to feel the difference in your box from the toy.
How?
Didn't he just say he got, hold on, didn't he just say he has a limp wiener?
Is he the one to be talking about?
No, he said, no, no, no.
The canal?
He said, as a result of him being turned off or being taken aback from her.
He got AD.
Yo, chick, don't like you no more.
Mentally, it's hard for him to get aroused at this point.
No, I picked up on all that.
She's mentally out of it too, homeboy.
What I will say, instead of us just sitting up here making a whole bunch of jokes,
like what needs to be normalized amongst couples
are having the uncomfortable conversations regarding your sex and sexual communication.
Very true.
That's another one that came up in therapy for me.
Most of us don't have the talk about, hey, how have you, are you enjoying how I've been pleasuring you?
Are there other ways that I can pleasure you that I haven't broached
and I'm not thinking about?
Do you have spots
I'm not hitting?
How can we improve
and how can I improve?
That don't happen.
It don't happen.
That should happen more.
It's because of ego.
This would behoove him.
But his ego should be
in the toilet right now.
It should be.
It is.
If he thinking about
a 15-inch dick
when it comes to his whiz.
He just wrote
the Joe Button podcast.
Yeah, I wouldn't even
have wrote.
What else he going to do?
Please don't shame the people writing in. No, I wouldn't even have wrote. Yeah, like. What else he going to do? Please don't shame the people writing it.
No, I feel you.
You would have wrote in.
You would have gotten his great advice.
For me, you, Ice, Imani.
Now flip everyone.
Let me ask you guys a question.
Mm-hmm.
How, because you all have women in your lives.
You're married.
You know, everybody, you're married.
You affianced and girlfriend,
et cetera, et cetera.
How interested are you
in your significant other's
health down there?
Like, vaginal health?
Extremely interested.
What?
You lost me.
Why would we not be
interested in that?
So are you open to her
telling you everything
that's going on down there and all
of the all of the changes all the stuff all the things that we encounter that we feel like we
might not be able to tell you because maybe it's a little embarrassing or it's a little shameful
or you or you might or you might start thinking oh well how did that happen to you did you step
out or whatever the case is like what like referring to like BV or yeast infection?
No, no, no.
I'm just talking about vaginal health in general.
In general.
I would hope.
To answer you, yes.
Every nigga I would hope that gets in a relationship
that is having unprotected sex with their significant other.
Or not just that.
For her own health reasons would be open to that.
I think that you'd be really surprised by how many couples do not share that kind of information
because women feel like they don't have that space, that safe space to be able to have those kinds of conversations with their significant other.
Oh, yeah, nah.
We don't have that problem.
We have those talks.
To me, this is what that sounds like to me. He's making an assumption and he's mentally reacting off of it because he doesn't know how to have conversations with his woman about what is actually going on between the two of them physically.
You know what I'm saying?
So he's making up all these stories in his head, which might be resulting in his behavior and inability to perform.
And it might be something else going on that has nothing to do with an outside partner.
True.
So that's just my assessment of what I just heard.
Our advice to you, homeboy, is talk to your girl.
Word.
Yeah, for sure.
To answer the question, talk to your girl.
Have a conversation with her.
She going to say, yo, Rakim, blowing my back out?
Yeah.
Yeah, well, that's not gonna happen.
That might not be what's happening.
That shouldn't be the question. You should be...
You're not coming to her to find out who's blowing her back out.
You're coming to her trying to figure out what you
can do better.
Hey, I've noticed that things are a little different.
Is there something off? Just open
the door and let her talk and listen.
That's it.
It's true. hope we helped um all right for my next sleeper
the girl man what you got for us the girl man she's she's her she's her
uh no introduction needed but this is Yeba.
Drake was absolutely right about this song.
Oh, Yeba's fire.
No, you on my dick.
You on my dick.
You on my dick.
And the sleeper you played last week.
I played it months ago.
Fuck off.
It's true.
This is okay.
You're my son.
They did point that out.
You're my son.
And I didn't make the big fuss about it.
I just let you play.
But Yeba, Waterfall, she put out a two-pack.
The second version is different than the first.
This is featuring Sueda, if I'm pronouncing that correctly.
But it's a vibe.
This is right up Joe's alley right here.
And you, big man.
And you.
I love Yeba. This is it. This is right up Joe's alley right here. And you, big man. And you. I love you, bud.
This is it.
This is it.
Deep in my mind.
Oh.
Even my inner critic
is still a mystic.
You're unrefined.
Raw and uncut like the prisms
Bending time to time, errors break
They multiply, fuck what they say
These feelings don't subside
Obsessions fade
Over time
But what remains
Love is whatever
We make it tonight
Did they mention the pride before the fall? Cause I risk it all for you Wow Wow Baby, I adore you
Baby, I adore, adore
I adore you
Baby, I adore Fine copper threads
They run from my head
Through this mattress
As it spins on its axis
You're heavy as a lamb
Pressing that cross on your necklace
Blood cans my chest, mirrors break
Just to multiply
Obsessions fade
All over time
What can I say?
These feelings won't subside
And what remains of this whatever
We make it tonight
The witch and the bride before the fall
Cause I will risk it all for you Right before the fall
Cause I would risk it all for you
What they say about the riot's on the wall
No clue
Baby, I adore you
Baby, I adore you Baby, I adore, adore, adore
I adore you
Baby, I adore, adore, adore
Hope you don't take it wrong if I call you late Intention tends to blur at this time of night
Would it even be love if I made you wait?
I know you never see things through my eyes
But I promise my heart is in need of some silence
So take your time with me
I'd do anything for tenderhearted love
Love
Hit him from all fields, he touch heels
Baby, I, I, I, I, I love you
With no fight left in me, I'd scrabble through I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, to worship freely without a crown that'd find you in a foreign land
yes you have
I cite me
for only my eyes
to me
maybe I
am
and it goes on
who's your boy
don't cough over my sleeper
again like that
what the fuck is wrong
with this thing
that was
waterfall i adore you by yeba featuring sueda hopefully i'm pronouncing that right but boy is
that a vibe and shout out to yeba friend of the show going down to memphis what can i say man i'll
be trying to get away from certain rap but i like it it. This is back on that CMG Gangsta R2 album. This is Glorilla, the record's called Overstood.
Oh, it's the Uchiwale?
No, no, absolutely not that hunger, it ain't never too
much of a
What they doin'?
Talk shit?
They still mad I'm pop shit?
Kick the door down on them people I got tired of knocking bitch
What they doin'?
Talk shit?
Talk shit?
Talk shit?
They still mad I'm pop shit?
I heard they lookin' for me No I got that shit, it's on the way
Humble beats but Aaron turn me up I got some shit to say don't regret my past because it made me who I am today gotta keep that hunger it ain't never too
much on my plate living in the suburbs but you know I'm good at any hood I was taught to stand
on business so everything be overstood counting all these papers smoking papers you can keep your
wood they talking about what I'm not doing but what I'm doing they wish they could in school
they gave me 180 now it's 180 on the dash
Traffic in that city, ain't police get behind me, do I'm bad
Somehow I be gettin' my best, when them bitches make me mad
Feelin' like prune juice, I got that shit for a nigga
Lookin' back on all I've been through, shit gon' damn near make me cry
If I was to crash out right now, would you be my ride or die?
You told me keep it real, I think you'll like it better when I lie
They say I smoke too much, I think they'll like me better when I'm high
They say what you do in the dark gon' always come back to the light
They call that boy broad day, he didn't get to see that night
You ain't even spend no money, how you tryna spend the night?
You see how this man do his hoes, why you tryna be his wife?
What they doin'? Talk shit, they still mad I'm poppin' shit
Kick the door down on them people, I got tired of knockin', bitch
What they doing?
Talk shit Talk shit
Talk shit
They still mad I'm pop shit
T up even harder for the times they had me fucked up
I got plays for days like Tyler Perry, bitch, I'm up, up
Money talks, so all of y'all should really shut the fuck up
And bitch, I'm from the trenches, I don't hang with hoes that stalk up
If it wasn't for them thirsty niggas, you hoes wouldn't be no bad
That lovin' nigga shit so dead, them niggas be out they body
Do shit at my own pace, and every time them bitches cop
I gotta turn it up a notch, I just got off the phone with Gotti
What they doin'? Talk shit? They still mad I'm poppin' shit?
Kick the door down on them people, I got tired of knockin', bitch
Ain't no monkey in the middle, go with who you rockin' with
Don't even stop at red lights What make you think you stopping this?
Getting that record is overstood by gloria off of the CMG to
Collaboration album Oh compilation album. Excuse me. I'm going to Philly part of the show chill moody chill. What up? What up?
Horns at the funeral, let's go chill You know my story, right?
Rise to fame from the pain of glory, right?
Heard from a source, he rips all the mics
Names in all sort of lights
You sort of right
So you just know about the daily obsession
Take a step beside the booth and make a daily confession
But you don't know about the daily depression
And doubt that comes with it
You just hear it and sweat it, I'm having fun with it
But you don't know about being that one ticket everyone's hitting
Telling you to come with it or just be done with it
Tunnel vision, but you don't know what I go through
Keep it real, you only know what I show you
Remember back in O2
Asked me where my life was headed, couldn't have told you
But now I might recite these lyrics at the O2
The garden get a show too
And I swear the 80 point theory's so true
I figure we gon' change that
Take whatever spots that we're given, I'll rearrange that I can get a show too And I swear the 80 point theory's so true I figure we gon' change that
Take whatever spots that we're given
I'll rearrange that
Making sure the spots that we're living
I'll park a range at
I'll always be the same cat
Vow to always be the same cat
Just where my mind frame's at
Memory's so vivid it's like I'm hearing pictures
Words so powerful figured they're in scriptures
It's different
While I'm here with you
In the physical
I just want you to know
When it's my cue to go
Play the horns at the funeral
Just make sure there's horns at the funeral
Just make sure his horns at the funeral
When it's my cue to go
While I'm with you in the physical
I just want you to know play the horns at the funeral
just make sure it's horns at the funeral
that's chill moody horns at the funeral featuring maggie and I'm gonna butcher this, Hyrui Tarfei?
I don't know how to pronounce that last name.
Yeah, I'm good, I'm good.
Chill, what up, man?
Ish, what you playing for us today, man?
I'm going to Young Lady's name is Rima,
and the song is called Don't Leave.
All right. The song is called Don't Leave. Bad man rug when I got the one I'm lovin' Bad man kill for me baby, me not kid you not
My girl tell me se she need my tina roger that
Her first one is a poor love that my baby got
It's a poor lovin' that I give you some conditional
The way me call her be my baby like a criminal
I took her from a pussy nigga who's not worthy ya
She love me, she love me, yeah because I keep it peepy
She love me, anything we say she never quicky
Bouncy body, body, bouncy body
Me a take her to the balcony and get her letter greedy, greedy
She washing up, I pull up, yeah I'm sneaky Stroke on her pussy, she a cry baby, yeah
Spice is give me piss if you pie baby, yeah Time to leave, would you say bye to me, yeah
Don't leave, don't leave, she say don't leave, yeah
She say Remy I all me to me me
Always us love for the green
Take one for the team
She see s'inna my keys, new level tees
She nuh want share my body with no other girl
She's a sangoline
She nuh forgetty enough of my love She nuh forgetty enough of my love Yeah, she nuh a nuff of my lovey She nuff forget she a nuff of my lovey
My lovey, my lovey, my lovey
Mmm, wine bovin' up, juwadi
Me go run a money low and no te horadi
Me go spray money like a be a lachi
Mmm, ah, cool nose
Kyo go dide un cool nose Uh, what you do is cool nose
Yeah, no be afraid of
Why you let me know?
Uh, shh, shh, shh
You're a big ass, I give you a peep
Shh, anything we say is never quick
Bouncy body, body, bouncy body
I'm a second to the funk
I'm a little greedy, greedy
You're washing up, I'm full of you, I'm sneaky
You're a crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy, baby Yeah, by the skin, baby, save your pipe, baby Yeah, time to lay, yeah She say, remi, I don't mean to, me, me
Always a solar for the green Take one for the team
She's using all my keys, new level tees She don't wanna share my body with no other That's Rima, Don't Leave.
And it's a bop.
Mel?
Okay, mine is, you know, I'm not going to preface it by saying anything.
It's called Diving by Art School Girlfriend. Oh, I know her I'm not going to preface it by saying anything. It's called Diving by Art School Girlfriend.
Oh, I know her.
Maybe not her.
Let's see. Backseat baby, are you ready for another one?
You have your daggers out lately, I can feel them pressing on me hard
Pressing on me hard Direct calluses
You know I know I didn't like it before
Still an aching in my brain
And I can't show a restraint
So I won't I'm just gonna go back, I'm just gonna go back, I'll look again. I was a guy Do you want me?
Does she want me? I don't know, I think she's a great actress
I was a guy
My favorite part was when she was in it I love the front So tell me something, look my way Share the light
Do you want me?
Does she want me?
Do you want me?
Do you want me?
Does she want me?
That is Diving by Art School Girlfriend.
A vibe.
A vibe.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Real quick on the NBA.
I'm not staying on the NBA and I purposely waited until hour four to talk about it.
Damian Lillard
on the Bucs seems
like the scariest thing in the world.
It is. Now that I've seen it,
that don't
look right. Damn, they was just letting him go crazy, too.
Yo, here.
Yo, Philly won that game, and then they just kept passing it to Dame.
Mm-hmm.
Yo, you got it.
That is the scariest thing I've ever seen.
And the second scariest thing I've ever seen is Porzingis on the Celtics.
I watched that game as a Knick fan.
Celtic fans, be happy.
I know y'all were sad about that Marcus Martre.
That nigga looks unbelievable.
Everything that Tatum and whatever Tatum
and Jalen Brown issues was, whatever,
you know, he's talking about chemistry
and all that bullshit, or he can't go left,
or whatever they talking about.
Drew Holiday locking up R.J. Barrett,
Julius Randle, and whoever else he was guarding,
along with poor Zingas hitting seven threes, 30 points, five blocks.
Like, he, as a Knicks fan, that hurt.
That hurt.
I'm not watching those games no more.
I'm not doing that no more.
He didn't do that.
I was cool when he went to Dallas.
We was cheering when Luka was snuffing that name.
Get out of here, big bitch. Then he went to Dallas we was cheering when Luca was snuffing and then get out of here big bitch hmm then he went to Washington go ahead and DC with your bum ass we ain't here now you're in Boston yo I'm terrified I'm
terrified that is all Joe button has for sports
ish y'all feel free if y'all have a sports tape. I think the Dame shit is damn near cheat code.
That's not fair.
All it do is open up the court.
You got two perimeter dudes in Middleton and Dame.
Dame ain't perimeter.
And Thanasis, right?
That nigga is parking lot.
Nigga open up the floor for Thanasis.
You got a nigga that can shoot from the parking lot.
Now you got Greek Freak just running amok and you can't
crowd the paint no more.
It's cheating.
Regarding Porzingis,
we'll see how it plays out.
He had a great game.
Those were just
my NBA table.
No, no, no.
I feel you.
AD.
What you gonna do?
We might be a little unfair,
but I'm with you
with that same sentiment.
It's only two games.
My nigga.
No, I don't care. It's the
mental thing around the game. When you watch the
first game of the season, he had 17
in the first half. He didn't score in the second half.
Like, dog, you were
you were
you went from top 10 and not mention it all.
Like, yo, dog, at one point,
AD was the perennial big nigga
in the NBA. Like,
people was arguably calling him the best
player in the league.
How many years ago was that?
It's been a while.
It's been a while.
No, four years.
Three or four.
Wasn't that long ago.
It wasn't that long ago.
Within those four years,
look at everything else
that's been happening.
He moved to LA.
He's probably getting
the best box he's ever
had in his life.
He's getting the most
attention he's ever
had in his life.
He picked up mad pounds.
And there's some other players that are just outworking him.
No, you just want to shoot threes all day.
Get your big ass down low, bro.
Pause.
That's crazy.
Shit is frustrating to watch.
I know you know you live with your Abu Dhabi.
Don't you worry, girl.
I'm on your body.
I want your mother.
Ew.
I'm trippy. Don't you worry, girl. I'm on your body Head up on your mother Girl, who's your You If I do, I know you Move it, you don't know who that is
Don't you worry
Girl, I'm on your body
I got money on my line
You know that shit
I got money on my line
How you doing, man?
Y'all got another sports tape?
Please.
I just saw this the other day.
I don't know if everybody knows this.
I know y'all be on me for bigging up.
Joker.
LeBron been in the NBA 21 years.
Jason Kidd was in the NBA 19 years.
Joker's been in the league eight, nine years.
He's one triple-double behind them from the
center spot. That's crazy.
That's amazing, my nigga.
So, get us white boys props
all season, please.
That is amazing. Move forward.
And I want to give a different white boy
some props right now.
Go to Wawa and people are
a little more popular.
I don't think it's famous. I think I stopped a little more popular. I'm not I don't think it's famous
I think I'm a little more popular than before but um
Where does go to Walmart or if you go to Target or if you go to Wawa, right?
Like I'm the king of Wawa. It's staying
If you go to Wawa and people are stopping you when you're trying to buy a car
Did you get this from that That's awkward to me.
If I'm in the mall and somebody's like,
no, Ish, you were wrong.
Women don't.
Okay, I don't want to fight.
You got it.
How you get that?
Hey, yo, you a sniper.
My nigga, this shit just dropped two seconds ago.
That's something that's a little new to me.
So that's been a little.
Look at your kitchen. That kitchen looks nice.
Do you like it?
Or is it something that you're like...
It's flattering.
I'm gonna lie, it's flattering.
Somebody stops you.
A little more popular.
You know Selena Hill.
You know Selena Hill.
No, we don't.
We don't. You know Selena Hill. No, we don't. Ish.
We don't.
Before we end the podcast,
I want to let the audience know
that this debuted on LinkedIn.
Not a joke.
No, it did.
This really debuted on LinkedIn right now.
It's the Black Enterprise.
I don't care.
Or on LinkedIn.
Don't try to fuck up my... Stop. Stop. Sorry. Wait. LinkedIn drops interviews? You shut the Black Enterprise. I don't care. Or LinkedIn. Don't try to fuck up my...
Stop.
Stop.
Sorry.
Wait.
LinkedIn drops interviews?
You shut the fuck up.
No, they drop ish interviews.
They drop ish.
He signed to LinkedIn.
That's hip hop.
Yo, how did you find that?
A little more popular.
I'm not...
I don't think it's famous.
I think I'm a little more popular.
Why are you blushing?
And why are all your t-shirts talking to this girl?
Your smile was crazy to me.
I ain't never seen you smile like that.
What a smile.
How about you, Ish?
What a smile.
LinkedIn.
He look like he 15.
You got to have a little bit of arrogance to believe that you can do this.
I'm saying that I'm scared.
Yo, listen to this.
I'm scared.
Bitch ass nigga.
I'm in the middle of the residential center.
I'm just saying it's going to take
a couple
club venues before I'm
Beyonce.
You're laughing at your own jokes and shit?
Yeah, man.
It's a growth thing.
You are Beyonce.
Listen to the interview, dog.
No.
I'm on my way to be a Beyonce.
Nobody said that, you asshole.
It's new territory. Most people aren't really willing to open themselves up No, no, no. We listen to that part. I'm on my way to being- Bro, it's scary. Nobody said that, you asshole.
It's new territory.
Most people aren't really willing to open themselves up to even allow-
Yo, put that water bottle down real quick.
... that possibility.
I think that in any-
Yo.
What?
Man, yo, stop your fuckery, yo.
I just, is this your kitchen?
Yes.
Nigga, your kitchen is beautiful.
Nigga.
You got a nice kitchen.
It's a nice ass kitchen, bro. What's wrong with you, yo? Dog, your kitchen is beautiful. Nigga. Got a nice kitchen. What's wrong with you, yo? What's wrong with you, yo?
Dog, your kitchen is fucking immaculate.
Did you put these cabinets up?
Yeah.
It's a beautiful cherry wood.
Yo, stop.
You don't even see what he doing.
He shot the commercial.
What kind of a camera is this?
At the same, that's a commercial.
It's espresso.
Come on, yo.
Yo, what an idiot, yo.
Wait, you never been to Ish House?
Yo.
No, I never been to Ish House. Fuck Ish. Yo, what's wrong with you, yo? That's mad common, yo? Wait, you never been to Ish House? No, I never been to Ish House.
Fuck Ish.
That's mad common, right?
Yeah, I've never been to none of my friends' house.
If they won't invite me outside with them,
what makes you think Bill invite me inside?
Ish, your cabinets are fucking beautiful, you bitch ass.
What is this futuristic stove shit
you got going on?
Yo, stop your fucking...
I'm asking a serious question.
I want to know too.
Cease ain't got this shit.
Nigga, what the fuck?
Now I know what's going on.
Your kitchen is better than my kitchen.
No, no it's not.
Yes it is.
No, what is this shit up here?
Oh man.
Let me see.
Why is this...
Pass this kitchen around.
Pass this kitchen around.
Oh man.
Very nice backsplash.
What is that, George?
Yeah, you see what he did to the back wall?
Yep, yep, yep.
Niggas can't build houses like my son.
That's a nice...
They can't fuck with my son, yo.
What's wrong with you, yo?
That backsplash is crazy.
He passed out.
Yeah, he passed out.
He's lost.
What's that called?
Hey, you got the lights going on.
I see what you got the lights to do.
You got the lights right there.
Yeah, yo, your niggas is...
When it's time for cooking, you want to...
What do you call that?
The fan above the stove. What's you call that? The niggas send his little one.
The fan above the stove.
What's that called?
The vent.
The vent.
Yeah, he got it.
It's fancy.
Oh.
Oh, no, that's real.
I got it right here.
You don't worry about it.
Hey, yo.
No, no, no, she's got it.
Ish.
Yo, stop your fuckery, bro.
It's a nice ass kitchen.
That nigga sent his one year old to her room, right?
Yeah, that nigga got his shit.
Yo, your shit shining, Paul.
Where was your baby at?
He got the light.
Nah.
Where was both your babies?
Yo, you got makeup on?
What?
Is this Cherry Oak?
That's Espresso Oak.
Yo, dog, let's go, bro.
We not going.
Nah, you don't see your man.
I don't see what he really did.
You should have intro'd the pod like, yo, I'm debuting on LinkedIn.
I'd like some support.
Y'all are missing it.
Look what's on his shirt.
Jigsaw.
This nigga's-
Hey, y'all, dog, that's what you doing?
I see you.
What's Jigsaw?
That's a company.
Jigsaw is your company?
Yo, I will throw this phone at you. Wait, wait, wait. That's your LLC, Jigsaw is your company? Yo, I will throw this phone at you.
Wait, wait, wait.
That's your LLC, Jigsaw?
Oh, shit.
You don't see what they're doing?
Where is your one-year-old?
At the babysitter.
Where's your wife?
At work.
Is that what you do when your wife goes to work?
You talk to pretty little hot things on Zoom?
That's hate.
In the kitchen?
That's hate.
That's nasty. That's kitchen. That's nasty.
That's smooth.
That's smooth.
Hey baby, now I gotta run down to the kitchen real quick
and interview. I gotta do an interview.
I gotta show all my teeth.
Nigga just
got a tooth implant.
Now you showing his
fucking...
Oh my God.
Act bad, act bad, act bad.
That's fire-ish.
Nah, come on, man.
I'm proud of you.
Don't ever play with my son.
I'm proud of you, man.
I'm going to watch that.
Yo, what's the next interview we got coming, huh?
Pale King, what's up?
What you got going on?
Pale King.
Yo, you know why I don't fuck with him too the nigga debuted on linkedin while he was at work so it's like oh that's light i ain't even yo you have to stop being corny what are you talking i
didn't even know that your kitchen is fucking fire nigga back shut the fuck up i'm trying to
come in here humble your kitchen is not humble You could have did that interview anywhere else
No he did all packs
He said to scream
He did that shit to show y'all
Hey that's my work, that's my company
A stainless steel
Stove fan
Shot of commercial
You know
Salute
Salute Know why I fuck with him. Salute. Nah, just salute.
I see what you mean.
Know why I fuck with him?
Look how clean the counters are.
Ain't no clutter.
No.
Nigga.
Ain't no clutter.
You would have known.
Niggas with a white girl ain't clutter them counters.
You can't clutter them countertops.
Yo, what's wrong with you, son?
What's wrong with you?
I'm going to follow you home.
I'm going to follow you.
Oh, man.
Hey, hey, hey.
Know why you messed up now? Oh, man. We can't go to dinner no more, too. We'mma follow you. Oh man. Hey, and, and, you know why you messed up now?
Oh man.
We can't go to dinner no more too.
We can't go to dinner no more.
You got to eat in the kitchen.
Nigga, kitchen is cheap.
Yeah, yeah, no, we can at your house.
Let me tell you something.
His kitchen is too fire for what he was
talking to me about at dinner.
It's over now.
Look at that kitchen.
You are done.
And he about to post something.
He about to post something on the video.
Hey, you want to post your interview, nigga? I see you. Get your shit up. Come he about to post something. He about to post something. You about to post your interview, nigga.
I see you.
Get your shit up.
Come on, clap it up.
Clap it up for Ish, man.
Clap it up for Ish, yo.
The Wawa King, man.
Nigga, shut up, nigga.
You about to post something, nigga.
Represent your interview, nigga.
You standing on your own, Jigsaw.
You stole the nigga name from Saw, nigga.
Freaky House Builders.
I'm proud of you.
You stupid, yo.
Mahogany.
What is that called?
Word, actually.
Espresso.
Espresso.
Espresso.
I'm proud of you, nigga.
I don't even know what espresso is.
How much a cabinet goes, Ish?
I don't know.
20?
30.
Oh, shit.
My fault.
Niggas, the 20's been salty to me. Oh. He got that in his throat. 20 30 oh shit my fault needs a 20 minute Look at him, he in his bag. My son in his bag, yo. Yo, remember that.
Yo, that's it, yo.
You keep singing, I'm going to Ruggs' party.
I'm going to Ruggs.
If you keep singing, I'm pulling up the Ruggs shit.
Ruggs, who not let me in when I pull up with Big Mal.
Yo, yo, this nigga so easy.
But you're my fan.
Oh, man.
This guy's a fool.
All right, keep us in your, what's the shit?
Keep us in your prayers.
Yo, keep us in your prayers. Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there.
Nigga, you gotta come do my kitchen.
I ain't going live.
That shit fire.
I didn't know you was living like that.
I did not know you was that fire.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Nah, nigga, fuck out of here.
And I know it's a TV somewhere in the dining.
And he went and crashed a new little modern house.
Freak, freak, it's freaky freaky yo keep us in your prayers lord knows we need to be there until the next time
we bid you a due farewell adios cerebrodurchy hasta la vista arvois so long goodbye i'm a rich
nigga man remember life is a series of moments and moments pass. So let's make this moment last as if it's all we have.
Freak, it's Freaky.
Hey, Freak, Freak, Freaky, yo.
Freak, Freak, Freaky.
And do remember the baddies are insecure.
The stagnant women want to travel.
The closed-minded women want you to teach them things.
And all them bitches need to stop using that ozempic.
Ozempic.
What's the name of this shit?
Y'all need to stop. Y'all need to
stop. I'm in the strip club. Y'all taking this no-waste
thing to a new level. Y'all bitches are
invisible in the torso.
Neck lookalike.
Y'all shouldn't be
injecting shit in you in the bathroom.
Y'all shouldn't be using
syringes to get skinny. Roofless bitches.
Y'all hold it down, manringes to get skinny. Ruthless bitches. Y'all on the damn, man.
We got a real nice weekend.
Halloween weekend.
Freaky-o's.
Freaky-o's.
Halloween.
Hey.
Boy, come on. Look this ice cream before it melts.
Also, before I go, Variety just put out something on this Jonathan Major shit.
Let me see if I can find it.
While you look that up, also, Tory Lanez's request to be released on bail pending appeal has just been denied.
Which we knew.
Again?
Again.
Variety says Disney has removed Magazine Dreams,
a dark drama starring Jonathan Majors, off of their release calendar.
The studio also delayed the debut of its live-action version of Snow White by nearly a year.
Nigga, this shit is fat, nigga. If I throw it at you, I hope you could catch, nigga. I hope you could catch. a year Yo, if any of you op niggas are looking for me this weekend, I'll be in the strip club, man.
Talk heavy, talk heavy.
Flip, what you got going on this weekend?
Anything?
Skits, money, getting money?
Yeah, outside getting some money.
Got it.
Got to catch up with DeMell.
That's hate.
And that's hate.
I am. Yo, text me what you need for the contract. Let's's hate. I didn't end that hate. I am.
Yo, text me what you need for the contract.
Let's end it.
I just want to pay it.
Whatever you need, send it.
Don't try to like, no, that's what niggas be saying.
Don't try to fucking put my fire out.
Hey, hey, hey.
It's Freaky.
Freaky Joe.
He got his leverage back.
Yo, shout out to my nigga, man.
Yo, Ayo Homeboy, anytime you put videos up that's not of the gang, them shit's flop.
Hey, if you want to continue to get money and live the lavish lifestyle you've been living, keep covering us, nigga.
Don't try to bitch your outside and cover them other niggas. They don't do it
It's true you am I said free free free
One, two, three.
You can tell what a nigga, they just talking about his contract,
he started doing signs and shit.
Go ahead, bro.
You do that kitchen, I don't know about that.