The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 727 | "Last To Leave the Party"
Episode Date: May 22, 2024The JBP returns with their thoughts on the video CNN obtained of Diddy assaulting Cassie (30:43) as well as his subsequent apology. Melyssa then calls Psychology Professor & Family Therapist Mercedes ...Coffman (1:46:52) to discuss domestic violence and the aftermath as it pertains to both the abuser and victims. Also, the room reacts to Cam’ron’s appearance on CNN (2:10:30), Terrance Howard joins the Joe Rogan Podcast (2:22:45), Apple Music has continued on with their Top-100 Albums of All-Time list (2:46:33), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: www.patreon.com/joebudden Sleeper Picks: Joe | Moneybagg Yo & Rob49 - “Bussin” Ice | Vince Staples - “Shame On The Devil” Parks | Slum Village (feat. Elijah Fox & Eric Roberson) - “Factor” Ish | Niia (feat. Jazmine Sullivan) - “Sideline” Melyssa | Th&o. - “Light” Emanny | ZURI - “Inside”
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All right.
I am not accusing anyone in the room of anything.
Let me start with that.
But I do have theories about people
who have 900 active credit cards
and a drawer in their bedroom of credit cards
that are unused and expired or nothing. They're there. You just don't use them.
It's like that breaking case of emergency. Yeah, I do have. Now I'm not accusing
nobody or nothing, but I have spoken to people of that criteria a lot, especially since the pandemic.
That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. You're not talking about Home Depot credit cards?
No, the credit cards. The ones. All of them is just Discovery, the other Capital One,
Capital Grill, all the credit cards. Capital Two?
Yeah, come on, come on.
You know the ones I'm talking about.
This thing is stupid, yeah.
All right, what's up?
Y'all said y'all had something good for me
at the start of this thing.
I was outside so I didn't hear it.
Well, everybody was almost outside.
We just heard the song Bad to the Bone.
Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
That's what we heard.
So we like, the fuck is this? Niggas looking around like, what the fuck? It's a phone ringing. Dun dun dun dun dun. Dun dun dun dun dun dun. That's what we heard, so we like,
niggas looking around like, what the fuck?
It's a phone ringing.
Somebody phone ringing with that as the ringtone.
So we moan.
So we moan.
So we all, and who phones?
That's funny already.
That's funny.
So, yo, that's funny.
We mosey over to look at the phone,
having a ringtone alone.
Already funny, it's funny.
Bad to the bone. Bad to the bone. Bad to the bone. That's a slap is funny. It's funny. Bad to the bone.
Bad to the bone.
That's a slap.
It's a slap.
For a 60 year old motherfucker from Montana.
Yeah.
All right.
Ain't no nigga from the Bronx
supposed to add bad to the bone as my ringtone.
That would be awkward.
Right.
So now we go see who phoned it is.
Gotta do that.
And sliding across the FaceTime says. What does it say? BlahTime says What is that blah blah blah blah blah blah the 69 goddess? Oh?
So we know right over the back we knew nobody knew who phone it was we saw that until we saw
XYZ the 69 goddess and everybody said, oh that's Imani shit. Yo dog, freak ass Imani.
And that's the funny part.
And he turned in pink right there.
Nigga, I walked outside and said,
yo dog, you got a missed call.
He's, oh shit.
And we bust our laughter like, yo fam,
that's what you doing?
The 69 goddess.
Wait, before you start, I need an apology.
Start there. My bad, I did tweet that you was a freaky ass nigga take that back. Thank you. You cool. You're good
Did a picture of the person pop up no, so just the ringtone in the freaky name
69 you're never beating the allegations. Oh no get better. No, I'm tall
So what happened after that?
Oh no, it get better. No, it gets better.
Let him talk.
So what happened after that, E?
I called the back just to tell her about what happened.
I said, hey, you're going to be a subject on the podcast.
I just want you to know that.
I'm going to have to bring it up because they're going to bring it up.
And I'll explain why that name.
She says, hey, babe, we're matching.
Yo.
Wait.
Yeah.
Matching as far as...
She saw what you had on.
I said, that's how y'all really do the 69?
She got green pants on, you got on a black shirt.
What the fuck did you do?
Does she know that's her name in your phone?
OK, all right.
Oh, she knows?
It's a joke.
It's a joke.
It's a joke between the both of us.
Uh-huh.
No, it's a joke between all of us now.
This is our joke too.
Everybody have.
Freaky ass girl.
She's like, I got this.
Got you.
OK.
Yeah.
You be home getting gobbled up.
And gobbling at the same time.
And gobbling.
And gobbling.
Gobbling and ghoul.
You still home being acrobatic?
I think it's skinny, yo.
Skinny niggas be trying to hold on to the athleticism.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You in the bed being agile like that?
You don't have to be that agile for 69.
Absolutely.
Yeah, 69.
I mean, it's.
Uh, OK.
You ain't got to be agile.
Not real.
My girl thick, nigga.
I don't know what you're talking about.
It depends on what version of the 69 you're doing.
Or the girl could be small.
Slim women, why would she be small?
Because it's me I'm talking.
Oh, okay.
Oh yeah, you and Parks. Parks, I found
an Instagram page with
a lot of Parks music under it.
That's weird. I don't normally
catch you out in the streets.
Works? Yeah, yeah, I caught Parks with a nice one. I think I normally catch you. I don't normally catch you out in the streets.
Yeah, yeah, I caught Parks with a nice one. I think I hit follow too.
Parks ain't let a pig slide by. I said, yo, this nigga is just like, he just like us.
He just like us. He just like us.
That's crazy.
I'm a teller, you.
You a rat.
Nah, deadass. I am though.
And that's kind of what this part is about today.
Today?
Hell yeah.
Only today.
Yeah.
You think I rat other times?
Oh, you about to paint a false representation of me.
Chunky cheese, man.
No, I hate the bark after what the word narrative.
You a ill nigger boy.
You the illest, you master splinter boy.
You the illest.
I've never seen a nigger use the platform to just...
To just...
Please, please, please.
It's not about me today.
It's not about me today.
It's not about...
Oh, oh, No, my bad.
Oh. Huh?
Go ahead.
No, go ahead and lick your little in-bitch lines.
Go ahead and lick your little in-bitch lines, nigga.
They ain't even in, big dog.
I didn't know if you talking to Ish or to a mirror.
I was like, what the fuck is going on here?
Oh shit.
I see how you started there.
Maybe he talking to the mirror.
What we have on today?
I like this, I like this. I can always tell when they Maybe he talked me to the mirror like this. We have more shit today. I like this.
I like this.
I can always tell when they talk over the weekend, during the week.
I can always tell when they start merging.
Oh man.
Just the fuck up.
I don't give a fuck what y'all been talking nigga.
I don't even know what you're talking about.
Fuck y'all call nigga.
I give a fuck.
That's what happened?
Okay.
He just got PTSD.
That's all it is.
Now I can always tell when podcasters talk to each other
during the week, they come in here with camaraderie.
They come in here just in concert.
That's what happens.
What's up?
What's up?
Good day, sir.
Everybody feeling good?
Feeling great.
Feeling great.
Juicy J dropped the album.
Happy Juicy J Day to those that celebrate.
Oh, for real?
I didn't know that.
What?
It's a good way to start the day. I love Juicy J. I didn't know that the legend. Yes, sir. I'm happy about some shit on it. Thank you
Tuesday to mm-hmm. They're gonna be the shaking ass. I know it's
You got to tell me now
Juicy J drop that just means somebody gonna be shaking ass somewhere. That's right more your weekend right before Memorial weekend. Oh, yeah
Oh good play Yeah Okay somebody's gonna be shaking their ass somewhere. That's right. Memorial weekend, right before Memorial weekend? Oh yeah.
That's a good play.
Yeah.
Okay.
How you feeling?
Well, you know we was talking about
being in a really good mood.
I'm in a great mood.
That's why podcasting sucks.
It's tough.
Podcasting sucks.
I'm in a fantastic mood.
I woke up talking to a higher power,
fucking, day just going beautiful.
Beautiful outside.
Beautiful outside.
It is a beautiful day.
And inside, inside my soul and spirit,
just feeling good about things.
I came in the day,
start talking to my brother,
my brother, brother Ish and brother Sal. I was having an off mic conversation.
I was letting him know that, you know what I mean?
When you have a certain vision and certain goals,
how certain things could just be a distraction.
We're talking in code here now.
Like bitches.
No more code.
I was telling him that...
Thinking the way.
Bitches are a distraction.
That is true. He thought we ain't know that already or? Well... Or you just reiterated. I was telling them that They can get in the way Bitches are a distraction
That is true
He thought we didn't know that already or?
Well
Or you just reiterated
Y'all laughed at me and started fucking
Just laughing me out the room
So I didn't know
So I walked closer to my brother Ish
I said join me
Join me on this journey
Where our dreams can be manifested
And really come to fruition without distractions.
Mm.
Know what Ish said to me?
What'd you say?
Man, I don't even go outside.
That's what he said.
That's it.
That's it.
Punchline.
That is the punchline.
You're not gonna take my brother Ish at his word?
That he don't go outside?
No, that wasn't all.
We laughed him out the room because he was saying this Kumbaya bullshit first of all.
See?
So he comes over to me and says, yo, yeah, follow me on this journey.
Yeah.
I don't have to, dog, I'm at the mountaintop.
You climbing up, my nigga, I'm cool.
What is the fucking journey y'all are talking about?
Not letting women be a distraction.
Is that the journey? That's the journey.
You at the mountaintop journey?
Very much so. Ice.
Yeah, I'm at the mountaintop.
No, I didn't ask you about you.
I am. I'm not asking you about you.
Ask him about me. I didn't ask him.
I said it was ice. I would love to. I'm not asking you about it. Ask him about me. I didn't ask him. All I said was ice.
I would love to hear.
Ice.
I don't like you asking.
No, it sounded like he was asking you.
He had the mountain top.
I'm going to start the pot.
I got sold for real cute.
Yeah, I'm going to start.
He had the mountain top of what?
Of that.
Women being a distraction.
He got up there.
Wait, what?
What's going on right now?
He got up there.
They talked this week.
No, they did not.
No, no, no, no. this week. I'm telling you. No, they didn't.
I haven't.
No, no, no, no.
I'm with you.
No, no, I'm with you.
Oh, yeah.
I got a pecking order in here.
Parks would be at the top of the mountain, married, invested, Ian as well.
They sitting up there, and then right behind that is Ish.
Wait, wait.
You skipped me.
No, you're after him.
Oh shit, rat cast.
My relationship is longer than Isis, so I would say that.
And they have a child together and then you're good.
Then you're right there and then.
What else is going on?
I don't know about Poe.
Damn.
I just automatically put Poe there.
No.
Oh no, Flip, we forgot Flip.
Oh yeah, no, Flip is up.
So Flip is in and Parks Po there. No. Oh no, Flip, we forgot Flip. Oh yeah, don't flip. Flip is up. Flip is up both.
Flip, Ian, and Parks is there.
Yo, all right, now I'm not starting to part.
Now I'm not starting to part.
For real.
The part has to wait.
If you're just now joining us,
shout out to the Petronis,
shout out to the first and last time listeners.
Yo, your ability to spew bullshit
should be in a museum. How is that bullshit?
First of all, it's a podcast.
That's true too, so let me.
And I know that because I watched it firsthand
with my own two eyes.
What are you talking about?
So the other night I'm out with a monitor.
Ha ha ha ha.
It ain't even a wild night. It's like, it's like calm.
Just a light lull.
Let's hit the bar.
Let look at them.
Look at us.
And we'll see where the night goes from there.
For me that meant going home probably getting in bed.
But we out.
That's what it meant for you.
Yes, Antoine.
Y'all niggas what?
He don't speak to me in real life.
So he come on here with these jokes
and make people think that he knows something.
That's what I do.
Yes.
So listen to me.
We in a Twilights home?
Let him cook.
He's not cooking.
He's burning some shit.
I'm just trying to tell a story.
I'm just trying to tell a story. He's burning some oodles too. That's all I'm trying to do.
Easy shit.
I'm burning udon noodles.
You're burning udon noodles.
Go ahead.
What?
This nigga's good.
But we're seated next to each other, and I order a steak, and Imani got his hookah and
a drink.
And when I tell you that people that get drunk and just talk too much,
oh man, I know.
They could smell our cologne.
Literally.
Yeah.
So they kept coming over, I won't name no names.
But people that talk too much
kept coming over to me and Imani.
Oh, there are people that you knew?
Yes, people that I knew.
But it was in those moments where I learned two things.
One, Imani and I operate very differently
when people come over to us that talk too much.
He embraced it. I can see that.
And two, Imani has an uncanny ability
to just spew bullshit. That's important when you're dealing with people that talk too much.
So one of our main man's come over drunk as fucking can be. Archie Bunker drunk. He is lit.
Archie Bunker drum. He is lit.
This is after the people that talk too much is over there.
They're talking to me.
I'm ignoring them.
Deadpan, straight face, Eden, word, it's quiet.
They keep talking, but eventually they walk away.
Those people talk to Omani, he give them rhythm.
He give them rhythm.
He continues the conversation.
Our man come over and say,
talking to both of us,
yo, I got this idea that maybe one of you brothers
can help me out with.
One of those.
Already, already look.
That's my cue. I'm already clocked out.
I'm already tuned out.
And I got this idea that maybe one of you brothers can help me with.
He continues.
He said.
That's the worst.
He said, yo, and I'm not quoting him.
All right, no time.
He said, yo, I'm just thinking, with all this gun violence going on and brothers dying and
the young rappers with all of these bodies dropping out there, I'm thinking that I could do a 2024 version of self-destruction.
He said, I'm thinking we go get gut up.
You lying?
Little baby.
Little jerk.
Little jerk.
Little Wayne.
Little Zane. Little Zane. Little Zane. Little baby My man, and as he's saying this I'm in my head saying, oh, this nigga is hot as rabbit ass.
My, no, I'm in my head saying, anybody in the music business
is gonna hear this idea and tell him that my nigga,
this is nuts.
And then I monitor the hookah from his mouth.
Say, yo, that a bitch.
No, that's not what I said.
Nope, that's not what I said.
It's your turn, E.
That's not what I said.
Don't tell his theory.
He's just, I'm crying.
Yo, that's dope.
He's still, the hook up from his mouth.
He's sitting right there.
Yo, that might work, yo.
He said, nah, that'll be special.
He said, the only hard part, I'm thinking about the dry knowledge from the music business.
He said the only hard part is going to be getting all of them together.
Yeah, I'll be feeling bad.
I pulled my AmEx out my car.
I said, hey Nat, ring me up.
It's time.
How many drinks have you had?
That was that one.
Was it a good one?
Was it that first one?
Let me tell you a problem with Joe.
It's a Friday night.
This is the problem with Joe. This is the problem. It's a Friday night.
This is the problem with him.
Really when niggas come up and talking to us, they're really talking to him.
You're the first one.
In real time.
They're really talking to him and I'll be feeling bad when he's just there like quiet.
It's like his rules.
I'm crying if you ever.
So I'll be like damn I feel like they should get some level of respect of an interaction.
It is so sweet.
I can't help it that I just,
I'll be looking at people just looking lost,
waiting for Joe to say something
and this nigga just be there.
I'm like, nigga say something.
So I just, you know, it's.
Don't say nothing.
You can't say nothing to me
because I have a too vivid of an imagination.
So as he said that, now I'm picturing somebody
going in a little dirt and saying,
hey, hey big dog.
You all gonna?
You all gonna get to stop the violence thing moving here.
You ever heard of Heal the World?
Oh, that's the funniest shit I,
yo, if you out there listening
and you heard self-destruction
and ever been in a spot with girls,
that's the funniest shit in the world.
Yo, there's nothing worse than when the spot
got girls in there and a nigga got you
trapped on some bullshit.
A girl you've been, I ain't all night walking out.
Okay.
Oh shit, okay.
Okay.
I'm ready to start.
Yeah. Yes. And Mel's ready to start. Oh no, no, no, I got a she got notes
I'm telling you right now
No, stop it's not stop yo dead ass
We have to let the audience know. Stop, it's not, stop yo, dead ass.
Yo Eve, we couldn't get the teleprompter ready for?
Eve, cut my face out of all of this shit when they start.
Is anybody gonna tell the audience or should we just go?
Well you tell them.
No.
I volunteer you as tribute, yeah you tell them.
There you go. You gotta listen to women. Why, you tell them. There you go.
Y'all listen to women.
Why did you volunteer me?
But why?
Because you're the sacrificial lamb.
And this is one of those moments.
Audience, Mel's ready to part.
Big Mel.
We ready to part too, but Mel is ready.
Er.
Mel and I had to fit out last night. Never seen Mel is ready. Er. No, no, I had to fit out last night.
Never seen Mel this ready.
The readiest.
The readiest.
She had the fit laid out.
Mel has her fucking.
Correspondent CNN, corresponding outfit on.
She got her blazer on.
Fresh shoes on the bottoms.
If you know, you know.
If you know about this blazer and when it shows up,
you already know what time it is.
It's not time for the play play.
Not today.
Not with the play play.
Not today.
Mel got cuffs in her jeans signaling
that she is ready for scrap.
Mel's hair is done.
Oh my God. Face beat to the heavens.
So play with her today.
No.
That's all we talk, I ain't.
No.
Not at all.
I just saw Mel.
Mel texted me on, what day was that?
I want to say it was Sunday.
Mel texted me on Sunday in the morning,
which is unusual. Right. Either Sunday or Monday, one of the years the morning, which is unusual.
Right.
Either Sunday or Monday, one of the...
No, it was Sunday.
Interrupted church.
It was Sunday.
She gave me a little message that let me know
that she would be ready to part.
And I had spoke to Armani too, a little bit on it.
And he told me Mel would be ready to part.
And I'm ready to part too.
I think we're all ready, right?
Sure.
Yeah?
We are.
All right.
So I am slowly opening the laptop.
Okay?
I'm gonna enter my code.
All right.
I'm not making any sudden moves.
I'm just gonna, I got a little soul for real.
Go ahead, keep it up.
A little vibe?
Mm-hmm.
Trying to start with the happiest of black music.
And another list of songs that they told me were off limits.
Alright.
Yo, you like this nigga age, too. Yo, chill out. Yo, I'm not. They okay. You're my Alright
Yo you like this nigga age too
Yo chill out
Yo I'm not
They older than you
Hell yeah
So for reals older than you
Hell yeah
No
You're mine
What you do when so for real walking the club?
You go to the car and text the 69 goddess? Like what you do when you're so for real walking the club? You go to the car and text the 69 goddess?
Like what you do honestly?
I'm gonna put on some music again.
Y'all playing with me.
Oh you got you by four years.
Oh she inspired you?
Oh she got you back in the game?
Alright. You're gonna ruin my mind, yeah Oh yeah What about you?
What about you?
Can't you see what you do to me?
I think about you all the time
My mind is hazy and I'm mixed up feeling crazy over you
That's my waist anytime
I need you
I need you
I need you
It's gonna get crazy
I need you
I need you
I need you
I need you
I need you I need happier, I need happier than this Oh yeah Come on man, come on, come on, come on
I need happier than this
Come on, come on, come on
I need black classics
I need feel good music
on this beautiful day, beautiful day
I need your back
Shout out to wherever you might be
listening from, always doing it for the ladies
You know what time it is
Real niggas all over the world, salute, salute.
Ego.
I love, do you ever dream of, can't be cold in the rain.
Yeah, put your little I messed up away, niggas.
Your voice, I can't even.
Yeah! Thanks for by. I'm not changing this
I'm not going to survive
So much to talk to that So much to feel bad
This ain't the only way
Tell me what you want in that
And I will give it to you
I'm not going to give it to you
Because of you
I love to feel your love
Give me your love again
Oh, you make my soul feel so blessed
I can't even say I can't even say It's almost sacrilegious to end that record right there.
It is. It is.
That's one of them for real.
Let me get a shot of that. I never thought that I would find All that I need in life
All I want, all I need, now I know
I know I found meaning in you
I found meaning in you
Because of you
Alright, we got work to do.
Alright.
Good shit, though.
Microphone check, one, two, what is this?
New money
Manual about the manual drop. Yeah, about the manual drop. Yeah. Yeah, new E and Mal.
What episode is this?
727.
Welcome to episode 727 of the Joe Budden podcast presented by, brought to you by Fuel
By PrizePix.
I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, highly favored, happy to be here, host Joe Budden
here with a few really amazing people.
To my right, the beautiful, the intelligent Melissa Ford
is in the building. Well prepared.
Hooty hoo. Hooty hoo.
The well prepared took her second to even come sit by us
today for some strange reason.
I mean, get our notes together, huh?
Oh, my God.
Big Imani is in the building.
Parkchester's finest.
You know the vibes.
Ish is here. Ice is here.
Flip is here now.
Flip was not here because he called out.
And nobody high-fived over that.
Nobody was excited that Flip was gone.
Everybody was sad.
And then Flip, in a show of great initiative, is here.
That's fire. Clap it up is here. That's fire.
Clap it up for that.
That's fire.
That's fire.
Parks is in the building.
Ian and Keeb are here.
Ian got on his, I ain't even going to talk about his.
I ain't going to talk about it.
You was right, though, in the description.
1,000%.
That was it.
1,000%.
You can't say it, but that was it.
We can't say that?
No.
No.
They got a good setup
He dressed like when the Jewish people was ready to cheat. When they had enough. He got on his Jewish club outfits. Bahamas outfits. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Hamptons.
Crown Heights.
It's Greek shit.
What we call the Jew cubes?
Yeah, the broke chains, boy.
He looking like after he hit the pizza place, it's on.
It's on.
After I get me a, they need to go to pizza place
and don't order pizza.
Some other show, a gazole. Wait till I get me a, they go to pizza place and don't order pizza, so my other chef, a gazolee.
Wait till I get a gazolee.
Some Moe Camerole?
He's right.
We ordered no pizza.
Nah, after the pizza place, after they sit outside, it's lit.
What's up?
What we doing?
What can we say?
Girl, you about to get it.
Who else is here?
And they get a dollar pizza too.
They got all the money.
Two rolls.
That nigga's got the best setup all the money. Two rolls.
That niggas got the best set up in the world.
You can't even say it.
Cory is here.
Atheist Unite.
Atheist Unite.
If there's any atheists out there listening, we got one of them here too.
What's up?
Fuck with us.
Po is here.
And Erickson is here.
And nobody else is here.
It's us. Gang, gang, gang, gang, gang.
We're deep today.
We are deep. Bionic fucking seven.
I want to do my math.
Seven. Seven. Seven.
Super seven.
Watching Terrence Howard let me know just how stupid I am.
I was either blown away or not.
I don't know.
I didn't know how to take it.
Because you can't, we can't.
I don't know.
We too stupid to confirm anything.
I failed chemistry twice.
So we started talking about the periodic table and frequencies.
Well, we started flipping shit around and I was like, all right, yeah.
The bubble was in the...
I couldn't wait to come here and talk to somebody smart.
No, I did not hear.
You ain't dating here?
Not that I could understand that shit.
Wrong pod.
Ain't the wrong pod. smart. No, I'm not here. Yeah, not that I understand that shit. Wrong part.
Ain't the wrong part. Niggas been beating me down about being well read for ages.
I ain't. So the people that are.
Take it away. Yes. Now's the fucking time to shine.
Periodic table. You can have math.
You understood any of that shit he was saying? A lot of it.
Well, later explain it to me. Because I left way before school.
I left in typewriting class.
I've been taking that part in a half hour at a time.
Because it's just like overload.
Let me go watch some music shit.
Every 20 minutes I feel dumber.
I feel like dumber and dumber.
I realize that if a person says some shit with enough conviction and move their hands enough, niggas will believe him. Nah, he had to be right because
helium be doing that shit. That's what I was saying. Helium and the boron, you know that they...
And electricity is trying to get up there I guess. So look at the points right there.
The points was there. He right.
If you take that shit off the flat shit.
It's all about the equator, if you think about it.
We ship from the equator, so why wouldn't planets
come from the equator of other planets?
Come on.
If you're out there listening, we're talking about
Joe Rogan and Terrence Howard's interview
and how stupid you felt watching it. I had no idea Terrence Howard was genius
No, he's smart, but we're not getting to that because Mel will throw a heel at one of you niggas
I brought no idea y'all start with Terrence out. No, sir. I did know right now somebody try segue into Terrence Howard
You see what he tried?
Don't throw no glass in here.
I'm not.
I'm not.
He tried to convince us that one times one should not equal one.
It wouldn't balance out the-
It wouldn't balance-
One times one.
Tell us.
Tell me later.
It's one.
He's saying that shouldn't be the case.
It can't be the case.
He's been saying that for years. Oh, you trying to include me?
And gravity and all.
I sign with some bullshit, basically.
Go ahead, get your chin off.
Maybe he was, I don't know.
I don't have the depths.
I might.
Don't throw that glass.
I'm not gonna throw the fucking glass.
I didn't even see the interview.
Don't, we don't.
No, I've seen Terrence Howard interviews before.
He is so esoteric.
It goes over my head, and I'm not even.
This is beyond esoteric. I know over my head and I'm not even,
I know, I'm not even ashamed to admit it.
Like, you got it, dude, for real.
I, I don't know.
Same.
Yeah.
Ish, you understand it.
I'm good, I'm cool.
Okay.
It's how the dictatorians.
Actually, I'll start there, actually.
I'll start there.
That's a great, I'm ill by mistake.
Before I started that motherfucking state
of the culture job, me and Puff had like a heart to heart
where he looked me in my eyes and said,
yo, I heard a lot of stories about you
and I hear that you are a lunatic and here we appreciate the creative part of being a lunatic.
So if you want to create in that fashion, you can. All I'm telling you is don't throw anything and don't hit anybody and you'll be fine.
And boy I felt so at home hearing that.
But also in hearing that it led me to believe that he understood the importance of not hitting
people because that's important as you run in a business and build a
business.
We're starting with the news that CNN broke last week where
they obtained hotel footage of puff.
Violently graphically stalking and attacking Cassie.
If that other angle come out, maybe kidnapping as well.
But when it turned the corner, we don't get to see.
But you ran a long way down that hallway,
and if you dragged her even four more feet,
we now include kidnapping.
That shit was disgusting, what we all had to witness.
That shit was almost unbearable to watch.
I'm certain that that was triggering for a lot of people
that saw it.
And that was Friday.
Friday.
Yes.
And that was Friday. Friday.
Yes.
I assumed that he would go and just hide somewhere.
But why would you do that when you are just a glutton for attention?
So he pops right back out.
Talk about tone deaf. Talk about inability to read a room.
Where are the fucking publicists? Where's anybody in this moment?
But he pops back out with this half-hearted bullshit apology that was like, it was almost offensive.
It was like a slap in the face, that apology.
I didn't even watch it.
I don't need to hear from him.
I mean, I watched it because it was quick.
It wasn't even, he didn't even try to put some sincerity
into this thing.
Friday everybody here was in a good mood, good vibes.
And it was our Friday weekend episode.
We normally try to keep things,
I prefer to try to keep things light for the weekend episodes.
And that CNN puff story broke as we were recording.
Literally.
And while we did touch on it,
when I listened back, I didn't feel like enough time was devoted
to just how much of a fucking lunatic that nigga looked like and
What that means?
industry-wide
for all parties involved
I
Think this broadcast is too big and comes with a great responsibility in matters like
this.
And I know that a lot of the music industry listens to this podcast.
And I don't think this is the last of it, nor do I think that he is the only one.
So at any point we wanna start having
some uncomfortable conversations.
Not only am I down for it, but I'm down to initiate it
because this shit is a mess out here.
And he looks like a fucking nut.
He looks like a complete, just a complete evil piece of shit.
What I saw on that video, as horrific as it was, lends a lot of credence to anything horrific I've ever heard. Mm-hmm. Yep.
And that's the uncomfortable spot.
Well, it's all uncomfortable, let me be clear.
But maybe he was unaware of some of the things
that were out there about him
that real niggas is just running around saying,
nah, shit sounds so crap.
When you hear about people blowing up cars,
it sounds like some movie shit.
I need footage, I need something.
When you start hearing about some of the other things
we've heard about, I think that video allows
for everything to be back on the table.
Anything that we've ever heard about Kim Porter,
may she rest in peace, is back on the table.
The rumors about Albie Shore are back on the table.
All of the violent stories that niggas
refuse to believe because of who he is
and what he has meant to the culture. After seeing that,
after seeing him run down that long hallway in a towel, I've dissected that video plenty.
And this is coming from somebody
that doesn't typically look at things on the internet
that'll make my stomach turn that way.
But I thought it was important
to run down that hallway
in a towel after a woman that is barefoot,
trying to escape.
At one point I thought that maybe he was in the shower,
so she felt comfortable trying to make a getaway
while he's in the shower, maybe he had to run out.
Another theory was maybe this nigga was asleep.
Something was happening in there where she felt.
She wrote it in her civil suit.
She wrote that he was sleeping.
And she took that opportunity to grab some things
and run out the door.
So, you know, like the strange thing is,
like the civil filing that she filed back in November
Mm-hmm all of this is in there. Yeah, it's all in there
Yeah, it explains why the feds raided all his houses. It's all in there
Like I just after I watched that video
I was like I got to go back and read this thing like with a flat fine tooth comb and I decided to do that
and the shit is it's vile, you know and
The to do that and the shit is it's vile you know and the what's so disappointing is that it requires for us to believe collectively not just us in the room but
just us it collectively it requires us to actually see something of that
magnitude for us to say oh well she was actually telling the truth.
You know what I'm saying?
Rather than just reading the words that were written out thoughtfully by three legal attorneys.
Reputable legal attorneys.
When I saw the video, I had so many questions.
I don't know if you had the same ones.
The first thing I thought was like, how is this coming out eight years later? Second thing I thought was,
doesn't the hotel have some kind of liability involved
to where if they see somebody being abused in their hallways,
don't they, isn't it mandatory
that they have to call the police?
Like that was another one of my questions.
No.
I don't think so.
No, you ignoring all of the under table.
No, no, no.
Under the table, inter workings of these infrastructures.
And I understand.
If somebody steps to the person that's operating
these tapes and says, I got 50 grand cash for you,
75 grand cash for you, they can get that tape.
And I understand that, and that just points
to how insidious his whole operation was.
And how.
Man, I'm not to cut you off.
Before, all of that stuff for me, while important,
was secondary.
The first thing I'm thinking is,
yo dog, that's somebody's daughter.
And you have daughters.
That's somebody's, and you have daughters.
That's somebody's sister, that's somebody,
people love this person.
This is a tiny little beautiful girl.
And for you to do this where you know there's cameras
in a public setting, her response to it,
where it was, the response told you that this has happened.
20 million times.
And in this moment, I think the best way to deal with this
is to dead fish.
I've dealt with worse. So let me just take this moment, I think the best way to deal with this is to dead fish. I've dealt with worse.
So let me just take this moment.
Dog.
That was the two things for me.
The two things for me was
his carelessness about where they were.
Like we're in a public space.
We're in the middle of a hallway of a hotel,
reputable hotel, you know his camera's everywhere.
He not staying in the fucking Radisson.
You know what I'm saying?
He's staying in some high-end shit.
70, $80,000 a night shit sometimes.
So you know his camera's everywhere.
For him to come out, cavalier, and do that,
that's number one.
Number two, when he threw her the first time,
she just laid there like this is par for the course.
You know what I'm saying?
He threw her there, four feet away.
He threw her on the floor, then he kicked her.
Then he stomped her.
And when he stomped her, she just put her hand on her butt
and just laid there like, I don't wanna fight them back
because it might get worse on them.
You get what I'm saying?
Like all of those things ran through my brain.
Like, yo, imagine if they were inside a house
and he was fully clothed.
My nigga, he had one hand on the towel still. So imagine if he was fully clothed, they were inside a house and he was fully clothed. I think he had one hand on the towel still.
So imagine if he was fully clothed,
they were inside a house.
That shit would have went to the 10th power.
Boy, dog, now you have to believe
all of what was in that fucking, all of those pages.
Yes, I believe that shit on day one.
I believe that shit on day one.
I believe that shit the very first day.
Okay, but there are people out there
that was thinking that Cassie may or may not
have been complicit in whatever this arrangement was.
And if you were on that side of the fence,
you owe Cassie an apology.
Well, they were more than thinking it.
They were expressing it.
And they still expressed it
in the comments underneath this video.
Everybody was just like, well, you know, why wouldn't she leave?
We're literally watching a video of a woman trying to leave an abusive situation.
And I don't think that people really have like a true understanding of how dangerous
it is for a woman to try to leave like an abusive situation.
That video let me know how much she couldn't leave.
If I took it for granted before, the video let me know, much she couldn't leave. If I took it for granted before,
the video let me know, oh, just how trapped this person was.
Because then there's the story in the phalanx about,
y'all, I left, I went home, this nigga came in here,
raped me, yada yada yada.
Like now, this is the maximum of power dynamics at display.
This is the Michael Jordan of power dynamics at display.
This is the Michael Jordan of power dynamics at display.
And even her in her filing wanting a jury trial.
It's all of that speaks.
The power that this person has,
I don't even trust a judge to hear.
He can get the judge on this.
I can do all of this and still get no result
because this person's too powerful.
For 15 years she's been this niggaiggas confidant, right?
So she's seen the payoffs.
I don't even wanna call it that.
I'm not saying that word.
I'm not saying that word at all.
I mean.
Not the word.
His sex slave, that's what she was.
She's seen the payoffs.
She's seen or been witness to the violence.
All of the conspiracy shit to get things done and to move pieces of,
you know what I mean, the chess board and all of that shit.
The girl was adamant about a jury trial
because the jury is a jury of our quote unquote peers,
as opposed to a judge, he could be paid off.
He know somebody that know somebody
that know somebody that know the judge.
That's where they are.
Dog, he's a billionaire, my nigga.
Fam, she's in the, in the.
He got political ties, he got all types of ties. Like, he's a billionaire, my nigga. Fam, she's in the, in the. He got political ties, he got all types of ties.
Like, that shit is scary, money.
You're not just going, we saw the J-Lo.
And he's free, and none of y'all,
and y'all see me getting my ass beat,
and there's nothing that none of y'all are doing about it.
And none of y'all have done a thing.
She went to the hospital, and he got the records.
She can't get her own.
I can't even get my own medical record.
It was so.
It's just a level of power that you're dealing with.
It was so sick, even after she's no longer with the nigga,
he's still intimidating her and still mentioning her.
You go on BET and accepting awards
and still bringing it up in there.
He be liking the pictures on the gram.
When she got married, he put the post up.
You're throwing little slick little comments
in your music on the last album.
That's kind of you reflecting on her.
Dog, you changed your name to love.
You made a love album.
You sent shots at the woman's husband who now God thank God for him.
Thank God for him.
Word.
Yeah.
Thank God that he might have been around seeing some shit and they had to actually plot.
Her escape. some type of escape
away from this psycho nigga.
That song with Jazzy, Come Home.
That's to her.
I don't know that.
I don't know that.
I'm assuming, I'm assuming.
I'm listening to this song.
There's too many facts out there for me to.
We've heard the same thing though.
That shit is sick.
When you start listening to the shit he doing in the music,
you start watching the shit he doing out there.
That speech at whatever ceremony that was the bet awards in 2022 where they give
us a lifetime you are sick in the fucking head
You sick in the fucking head nigga the psychological games that you playing as a nigga that ain't right
The psychological games that you playing as a nigga that ain't right.
Outside of all of that, outside of what we saw.
Outside of the probably hundreds of cases
that we don't know about,
because you done got some NDAs popping
or cut some deals with some people prior to.
Or threatened.
This shit lead Linz Creedence to anything that
Gene Wolf is saying.
Gene Deale.
Gene Deale.
I'm sorry, Gene Deale.
Who's the other one?
Jack Walton.
But the other security guard, Roger.
Roger.
Like anything that you've ever heard now is just on the table.
You lying sack of shit.
You know, and you told up and you tone deaf and you so tone deaf you want Instagram saying shit like time will tell the truth
And every you don't know when to shut the fuck up
But before that though, cuz when when it's a cuz he put his apology video out. My mom caught me
Did you see the video me and her having a conversation?
She like damn maybe him seeing it the video himself
Humbled him to a way. I'm like, Ma, absolutely.
I got to argument with her.
I said, let me read you.
Forget the time will heal, time will tell the truth.
The apology, I mean, the denial post that he put up
back in December right after this, enough, I'm gonna read it.
Enough is enough.
For the last couple of weeks, I have sat silently
and watched people try to assassinate my character, destroy my reputation and my legacy. Sickening allegations have been made against me by
individuals looking for a quick payday. Let me be absolutely clear, I did not do any of the awful
things being alleged. I will fight for my name, my family and for the truth."
That person now turns around after the video drop and put this up yo, I was fucked
up, I was at rock bottom. When was you, I went and got therapy. No you didn't my nigga,
you are full of shit.
Watching that.
You're full of shit.
Watching that apology, I was thinking so many things. First of all, he didn't apologize
to the person who he abused. He did not say her name.
He can't say her name. He didn't apologize to her at all,
or direct the apology.
He's like, I'm sorry, y'all.
Don't fucking apologize to us.
Yeah, you don't owe me shit, nigga.
But there's a large swath of the population
that had your fucking number.
We knew who you were.
We always want to stay away from you.
We knew who you were.
Like, the track record has been there
It's just that people have chosen to ignore it
It goes as far back as when he was a promoter and all them people fucking died in that fucking stampede
And then you fast forward and see you know
What happens between him and Steve stout when he smashes a bottle over his fucking head and then you fast forward to the shooting with
Shine it's it's always been there. You know, his...
It's always murky.
Murky?
What do you mean?
What do you mean by that?
Correct, murky.
Murky like, it could be, you know, there's always like a...
There could be some circumstance by it.
There's always something.
But it's like where there's smoke, there's fire kind of thing.
I don't like that though.
I don't like that.
We know now. I don't like that though. I don't like that. We know now.
I don't like that because I do believe there is a moment where someone can be accused of
something and be innocent.
And then I've always said this.
I don't want to use, but Michael Jackson for me, everyone knows I feel he's innocent in
the charges that were brought against him.
I do think at a certain point someone started something and they figure
Oh, that's the quick payday. Let me come let me bow pal on that to make it seem like it's even more true personally
I don't think that's like his track record has been fucking horrible for decades
But that but anyways, I'm just saying I never like to judge based off what is no debate now
You don't have to have the debate. No, it's not an debate.
We have seen it.
We've seen it.
I think that's what it is.
And so the other thing.
I think it took away all of reasonable doubt.
And that's the other thing I was thinking.
I'm sorry to cut you flipping.
I'll just let you speak in one second.
But I thought to myself, I was like,
who the fuck is advising him?
Where's his legal team?
Because literally what he just did was he admitted
to everything.
And that can be used in future cases.
So I'm just like, this isn't even a PR nightmare.
This is your legal team is either-
Wait, how did he admit to everything?
He basically apologized to everything he said.
One, he admitted to watching the video.
Two, he admitted to the things that transpired in the video.
So now if they want to bring charges against you,
you admitted it on camera.
I'm not certain charges and it's not important right now.
They can't, they can't.
Wait, that's not true.
That's not true.
That's not true.
They can't charge them for assault.
They can't charge them for kidnap.
You catch that other angle like you said,
kidnapping in California has no statute of limitations.
Kidnapping or any other charges,
they just can't charge them with simple assault.
They can charge them for some other shit.
Now, nigga, you just got up there
and admit it to the other shit, you dodo.
And what's crazy, your lawyers will tell you,
if you have pending litigation, no fucking comment,
don't even say no comment, don't say anything.
But what about him, his character as a man,
would make us believe that he would believe
that someone else could know better for him
than his own self?
He might think that he's at that,
and when he's in a room
He's the smartest nigga. He's the most powerful nigga. So I'm not taking your word. I'm gonna just move how I want to move
He he's reacting in a space where he it's like God like shit like a lot of people
They feel like they got it feel like and how's that worked out for you in the last month cool
For the last 30 years
So at this point you only doing what you think
is the most natural thing to do is,
I'ma rely on myself and everybody going,
at some point, fall into what I think is the most natural.
Yeah, but you know what, and I've heard him say before,
part of what makes somebody a genius
is knowing that they don't know.
That's true. Agreed.
Or hiring the people that know more than you.
Yeah, so I'm not so you right in that right?
There has to be this God complex that comes with that
At some point you need to know your fucking self when you are in no shape or
Condition to call shots in your own fucking best interests
Like he let is too much at stake at this level
Like he let, it's too much at stake at this level.
There's too many, there's too many people involved at this level.
It's your legacy on the line.
You have let too many people down.
And when I talk about being a lying sack of shit,
before we even get to the lies told on Instagram
pertaining to the case,
I'm talking about the fucking lie of black excellence.
Mm-hmm.
It's a few of you niggas moseying around out here under
the good name of black excellence and you niggas are
living like pieces of shit.
This ain't this ain't 20 to 30 years ago.
Hey nigga, you not white.
You can't do what them white niggas do and say,
hey, I'm checking into rehab and all will be well.
Nope, it doesn't work anymore.
You not white, and this ain't 20 and 30 fucking years ago.
Back to Kendrick's point with the ayahuasca.
It's the point.
You niggas need to be stripped of all of this shit
that you're on.
I'm talking about the vices. I'm talking about the vices
I'm talking about the pills and vices include these young girls
Every time I start talking about niggas in the young girls
Everybody tell me to shut the fuck up out there
But it says something you niggas that can't keep your hands off of young bitches and y'all claim to be that nigga running around
hands or for young bitches and y'all claim to be that nigger running around.
Don't tell me that you that nigger and you can't get a girl that's above 22 and 23 and do something outside and manipulate these chicks into whatever web of cockamamie bullshit you got going on.
Therapy is not enough now. The people that love and care about him and handle him that way, because he ain't gonna
be abandoned of his people, there's still gonna be people there to make sure that he
don't hurt himself or do something else.
Those people, if they truly love you now, it ain't time for the fucking long walk on
Star Island with the cameras out.
Sorry.
I don't, I've been trying to figure out who it is that surrounds him.
Not counting his family, not counting his children
and that sort of thing.
But by reading the court documents,
all I see is not only enabling, but enforcing.
That's all I see, is people who uphold his fucked up behavior
and have done it for years for whatever reason.
Because he funds their lifestyle,
because he pays their bills or whatever the case is,
but at what point do you see the fact
that you're trying to cover up the fact
that he's raping and trafficking and beating people,
like the women in his lives?
I wanna have a real, I know you wanna,
but I wanna have a real conversation about that,
because I hear what you're saying, but.
This is a layup.
That, you got something to say, so I'll get back to it, but.
No, what I was saying is that on a surface level,
because a lot of us don't know how to deal with trauma,
see a lot of you guys are mature,
but some of the people on a surface level
that witnessed this in their home,
that witnessed this with their family and their parents,
and witnessed their mom come back, or their dad come back,
or their sister go back to the man that they beat up,
of course they're gonna say why she didn't leave,
or they're gonna come up with these whole excuses for Cassie.
Now when you see it, it changes perspective,
but also it's a bigger picture
because you realize how much power he has.
But, and you're like, okay, it's bigger than just a typical DV situation.
A lot of people that don't, we don't look that deep into it or we don't read it.
When we look at it, it's like, oh, you know, I saw this before.
You know, she went back then, it's been going on.
But then when you hear the story, when you look into it,
that's when you change your perspective of what's going on.
A lot of us have not dealt with our trauma.
That's just the truth, that's the society.
You're being forced to deal with it these days,
he's being, I don't wanna say shoved down your throat
because it's important to deal with your trauma.
A lot of us have become numb to domestic violence
and watching it.
Y'all's trauma is secondary to me.
If how you cope with that is beating on chicks.
I agree with that.
I don't care where it stemmed from.
Yes, but, no, no, no buts.
But my mind did wander there
because, nigga, you've been you for so long.
And just typically, historically,
if somebody is on this type of shit, that means that it
existed somewhere way before.
Like what the fuck, and it ain't even about giving him this bandwidth in my brain.
But what the fuck happened to you early in life that everybody just overlooked?
I just think that I don't, I don't.
It's not the time for that.
And I think it's a cop out.
I think that's a cop out.
And I think that people also have to address the fact
that there is classism attached
to their thought process with DV.
Most people think that this is something that,
just working class or people living above
or below the poverty line.
They cannot imagine that domestic violence exists
in such a high level.
With great power comes great responsibility.
That's not what I mean.
Flip, that's not what I mean.
But Ish, what I'm saying is most people cannot wrap
their minds around it existing at that level
with a billionaire beating on his girlfriend.
We just watched a white man punch his wife in the club.
I mean, not Joe Rogan, I'm sorry.
Dana White.
Dana White, yeah.
Dana White slapped his wife.
And it was a difference.
It's a difference.
That's why I agree with Joe on this one.
Like, black and white is different.
We watched it in the club full of people,
punch his wife, slap her, whatever, in the face.
But then people make assumptions about the character
of the woman that stays in a situation like that.
OK. Like they've been making, like they've been trying to assassinate Cassie's character
for saying, well, she stayed because she was living in the lap of luxury. I need people to,
everyone who wanted to shoot Jalen, Jalen Green, is that who had the baby with
Dreah? I want everybody who was trying to shoot him bail about being the younger one in that
relationship to do the same thing for Cassie. He was 37, she was 19.
She was brand new to the scene.
I don't understand why people are expecting this young girl
from the middle of fucking nowhere
to have a level of sophistication and cunning
and calculation and discernment to know what to do
when a 37-year-old fucking man.
That's rich.
That's rich and famous.
That has every resource in the world at his disposal.
Exactly, and so he listens to her song in a club
and then he sees her and that is what he wants.
Can I just point out, and I don't want to remove it
from the DV being the center of this conversation
at this point, but when we talk about Diddy,
he doesn't have a domestic violence problem.
He just has a problem.
We have stories of him doing this shit with men. He has a violence problem. He has a violence problem. He just has a problem. We have stories of him doing this shit with men.
He has a violence problem.
He has a violence problem.
He has an anger problem.
Yes, absolutely.
We need to focus on the fact that this is what happens in his household with the women,
but his power complex and his God complex, just over people as general, is the issue
for him.
That's what makes him sick.
He doing that shit Steve Stiles shit, the Kid Cudi shit where they're blowing up the
car or whatever, hanging a nigga over the balcony.
Like he just has this God complex.
And I popped off on a bunch of niggas over the decades.
That really just speaks to the power that the industry gave him.
How we view popping off on a nigga in isolation.
It's totally different.
So just him as a person, you know, we have to 100% analyze and give this the right attention,
but just when we talk about him as a person,
he's just a shitty person.
Yeah, everything is under review.
Shit, you going to college
and beating up the high school coaches.
I mean, the college coach is under review.
I'm assuming you were sober in that moment,
if you're going up to the college.
I'm assuming.
Yeah.
The fact that we even have to assume that it's possible
you might have had something to do with Pac.
The fact that we even have to have that
and have a nigga say,
now I gotta look at that and be wait,
what if the nigga really did?
It's on the table now.
It's not about just him beating on women.
It's him just as a person.
You've had a stranglehold on the industry
in a way that we watch Five Heartbeats.
You look like Big Red, nigga.
You look like one of them niggas.
And we champion you.
We walked around here being proud to say
we had somebody of your stature making moves
and doing things, Sean John and all this other shit.
We had Hov on a song saying,
how dare you niggas go by this and that
when my man Ped got sirat
You don't make it hot for oh, yeah, like what the fuck is looking for any black billionaire now?
Hey, what this nigga did? I don't trust it. How'd you get? How did you succeed this way man?
And that's why when niggas say oh, I hate y'all don't y'all don't hold the white people well the same way
I know I want the the black people that's making it look bad for the black. Get them niggas out of here too so that the black ones that's really
upstanding and doing some black excellent shit, we don't even have to
pile them up with this other bullshit. So if Puff is on bullshit, get this nigga out of here.
That's a conversation. But that's my thing though, you black
excellence niggas. No, but there's the problem. You black excellence niggas. Hold up, let me make my
point. You black excellence niggas out there, and back to the tone deaf part of this,
you are the front man for an alcoholic beverage.
Most niggas with a mama,
most niggas with a mom, if you go tell her,
hey, liquor company, yada yada yada,
she gonna give you that black mama speech
about don't go out there and make a fucking ass to yourself
and look stupid, you already representing the liquor,
they already look at us a certain type of way,
if you in these rooms around these people,
nigga, fix up, look sharp, don't walk in there drunk
just because you represent the liquor.
It make me look at that even different.
In all of our greatest black moments,
here come a fucking drunk to put some deli on me look at that even different in all of our greatest black moments.
Here come a fucking drunk to put some deli on or some shit on a table or some shit.
Don't do that. If it's not black, excellent.
Don't do that. If it's not speaking to business acumen and you presenting yourself away, when you walk into these rooms, this nigga done hosted the,
the, the, what's the, this ain't a hosted anything that you could possibly host.
He's a host. Arguably the greatest host that we ever had which is the sad
part because the greatest host is always the last one to leave the party and
that's his fucking problem you the last one to leave the fucking party still
your house to fucking hang out everybody come over there and congregate and
centralized over there as
if to say we adopting all the rules under here too. You niggas look nuts. All that fake
industry finicky bullshit ass friendship and then when shit get like this, everybody running
high. Ain't seen a soul try to stand next to that nigga. Everybody in protect brand mode.
Well, there was a post right before this
where, what was it?
It said something about truth be revealed
or something like that.
I can't remember.
And there was a bunch of people underneath that post
putting- Time tells truth.
Time tells truth.
And there was a bunch of people throwing up crowns and shit
and we got you.
People with fucking check marks
and stuff like that.
And then...
I'm not angry with those people.
I'm not, yeah, I don't...
I'm not angry with any of those people.
Society don't make everybody,
and this is gonna sound crazy,
but society, a lot of people don't follow society's rules.
But society's not, even though it's wrong people.
Why did it, so I'm just asking.
A lot of people...
Let everybody go.
Me?
Yes, you.
A lot of people are going to stand
with a person who they love.
They're gonna give them the benefit of the doubt.
Society's the one that's making it
and the pressure from society and what's right
is what's making people and what's protecting their brand
is what's making people separate themselves,
which is what they wanna do.
But there's some people that love their friends.
There's some people that I'm gonna stand with you
regardless of what it is you're doing,
no matter what, I'm standing with you
because I believe that you're just a good guy
and you helped me at a time I need
and you were just going through some traumatic
or you was going through, not traumatic,
but you was going through something at that time
and we all make mistakes.
That's how people look at it.
So where them same people at right now?
What, they're standing next to him?
They're standing next to him?
No, they're still next to him
when he did the Tom tells truth thing.
Yeah.
Where are those people once this video dropped?
They probably standing next to him in silence.
But they weren't in silence before.
So I think to what I think,
we didn't have the visual.
When you see something different.
But you just said that they were staying next to you
no matter what.
Yes.
So now we got a visual.
Now we got no matter what. If can believe that this is no matter what.
Stay in there still.
I'm pretty sure niggas are still standing with us.
There will be people that are standing with us.
People still standing with us.
My point to what you were saying,
and I think a lot of people,
hold on, a lot of people stood next to him
in brand protection mode.
Can I ask you a question?
Hold on, let me finish this.
You can ask me a question.
A lot of people stood next to him in brand protection mode
to say, hey, if he beat this,
I want him to remember that I was there.
Amen.
Can I ask you a question?
Sure.
What would you have to say to that though?
Do you believe that?
Yes.
Okay, now you ask me a question.
You have somebody in your life that's in prison, yes?
Yes.
Okay.
No matter what that person did,
would you stand next to them?
Cause your relationship with them? No, it's not no matter what that person did, would you stand next to them? Because your relationship with them?
No, it's not no matter what they did.
I'm asking you.
Would you still love them?
Would it change your love?
Would it stop you from visiting this person?
Would it stop you from supporting this person?
Yes, there are things that that person could have done
that I am not, what that person did is very,
some real petty shit.
What I'm asking you is that-
I'm talking about if that person had this right here.
Listen.
Yes. I would bro. I got you, I got had this right here. Listen. Yes. I don't want
Y'all to get caught up here because you both are right and however anybody out there feels
You're entitled to that. There will be some people that feel like
you can change and I forgive you and
You can learn from your mistakes
and we're not gonna judge because we're in human flesh.
All that shit Kelly Price said,
there are people that feel like that.
So that's why I'm saying to you, Mel,
the people that are leaving the comments under his picture,
I'm not gonna judge them for believing
in the power of healing.
I won't be one of those people to leave a comment there
because for you to heal, nigga, you have to show steps of healing.
True. Exactly.
Exactly. Apologies are trying to change behavior.
I have not seen where there's steps of healing.
So I'm going to keep my fucking distance and pray that some healing
and a higher power fucking takes the charge of this,
because you in charge of yourself have run amok now.
A lot of people, hold on, I'm sorry, real quick.
A lot of people take the apology as,
I'm sorry for what I've done.
His apology is, I'm sorry y'all know what I did.
I'm sorry I got caught.
I'm sorry you lost, yeah.
I'm sorry you know.
I'm sorry you saw.
That's not the same shit.
That shit sound like a skit off of a Black Rob album.
It's not like all scripted.
That shit sound like he's just got in a booth and started talking some highfalutin shit.
Nobody give a fuck about that.
You don't mean that shit.
So all of that change can come.
He doesn't apologize.
But you gotta accept what you did and really start the work to make change within yourself
first.
He ain't there yet.
So going back to everybody that was under the post
and not knowing what the personal stuff
that your quote unquote friend might be up to,
like what you were talking about, Flip.
Yes, yes ma'am, I'm sorry.
The fact that he was in a hotel and felt brazen enough,
bold enough, like emboldened enough,
like absolute power corrupts absolutely.
That's what I thought when I watched this fucking video,
is this nigga is drunk on, fuck alcohol and pills, power.
I can get away with anything
because it has been proven to me time and time
and time and time again.
I'm untouchable.
Exactly.
But what I also saw when I watched this video
is not just how bold his actions were
to beat her under fucking cameras watching
this, but that led me to believe that there is a ton of people, a ton of men, male friends,
male acquaintances, male employees who have witnessed this and don't stop it.
Why you keep saying male?
I know that there's women too, but for me, I think that an element of this conversation that's not really being had is the accountability of men amongst men to really try to say, like,
your behavior is fucked up.
That's not-
You're speaking, but you're just talking about how a powerful motherfucker-
Hold on, hold on.
But even that's still an assumption, right?
We don't know what these people behind the scenes might be saying to him.
You talking about men?
That nigga has a mom.
Yeah, like we, yeah.
This ain't just on men.
Yeah, I don't.
Not just that, I think that when you exhibit
a certain amount of power,
when you get to a certain amount of power,
we've seen people go to prison for other people.
Yes.
Like, that's a certain amount of power.
You are gonna say, fuck my own kids,
fuck my own family, I'ma go be taken away from them for another man. Right? So when you start
talking about the male on male dynamic, yes, it is true and it's present. But when this
person employs you, when this person pays you a handsome ransom that you might can't
get elsewhere, that's a different, that's a, it's a power thing. So it's not a physical
power, but it's a power that. So it's not a physical power,
but it's a power that this man employs me
and can make me not get employed elsewhere.
It's a physical power too, if somebody is believing
some of the rumors of violence that have been around,
it's also that too.
No, I'm talking about like the bodyguards and shit,
like if I'm making a couple hundred grand as a bodyguard,
I might.
So you choose the employment of guarding this person.
A lot of people are gonna choose their family
over somebody else.
Also, that's not fair because one of the people
who've been championing speaking about the truths of Puff
for years and didn't get no real support from the media,
didn't really get no support from other women,
This speaks to the power.
was Gene Deal.
He been saying this shit for years on YouTube,
any platform that'll speak,
and no one gave him the time of day to say, come up here.
So there was a man out there trying to go ahead,
and it was a couple of them.
Wayne Barrow, there's been people who've always been talking
about the history of Puff and the things that he's done
with men to women, everything, and no one championed.
So I don't want to make it seem like, oh, it's just men not wanting to go ahead
and hold them accountable.
Also for him to believe all these violent claims
that he's made, he's blowing up cars,
there's rumors of all this other shit.
And you're working there, you see this,
you're probably gonna be a little bit scared to intervene
because I don't want to be the guy with the car blowing up
or the guy who goes missing.
And I totally get that.
And then there was a woman who just went on CNN,
who used to be his assistant, who she went up there and said,
I never saw a dude anything like that.
But you can just tell.
You can just read.
You can just tell.
That's the story you got?
So all the bodyguards and everybody's seen everything.
And they got stories.
And you don't got nothing to say about nothing.
But you just took your instinct.
Sometimes niggas are so sadistic that they pick and choose
who sees what. Yeah, who sees what. I love the point that you make, Amell. I niggas are so sadistic that they pick and choose who sees what.
Yeah, who sees what.
I love the point that you make, Amell.
I just think it applies to all people.
And that's what I'm trying to say,
that it's not just about Puff.
Like that's why I said absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Because this made me think about Weinstein
and how many enablers there were
over the course of those 30 years.
Any powerful person.
Yes, exactly. Yo, we've heard rumors about Ellen DeGeneres. enablers there were over the course of those 30 years. Any powerful person. Yes. You know what I'm saying?
Exactly.
Yo, we've heard rumors about Ellen DeGeneres.
We've heard rumors about all of these people that
got a shit ton of money.
Donald Trump, whomever, and allegedly behind closed doors,
they treat people like shit, and they are shitty people.
And nobody says a thing because of the power dynamic.
Whether you're a female or a male,
if you possess a certain amount of money and power,
niggas are gonna bow down to it and cower to it.
Self preservation mode kicks in and it's like,
yo, I'm not gonna pick her family over my family,
so I'ma mum's the word.
When I watched that apology video,
last thing for me is that all I saw is that
he never apologized before,
he doesn't know how to apologize.
That's a good one. He's been enabled his whole life, he doesn't know how to apologize. That's a good one.
He's been enabled his whole life.
He doesn't know how to apologize.
And he's never had to apologize.
He's never had to do that.
It's my way on the highway, fuck you.
I never had to apologize.
He never, you know, money and everything always solved it.
That's a great point.
Yeah.
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Before we get back to Puff,
I do want to hit the round of applause button for my team.
I do.
For sure.
You got some.
For sure, they deserve it.
I know that at some point the jokes will fly. No, they deserve it.
But I am super proud of how they played, how they showed up, how they fought through injury.
I love all the draft picks. I love where the future stands for the Knicks.
This is the first time in a long time where organizationally, we just seemed to be built right.
And I think even with that game seven loss,
as you could see by the round of applause
that they gave Josh Hart,
Jalen Brunson would have got it too
had we been notified of his injury.
But I think any true Knicks fan,
Knicks fan was really pleased with their effort.
I want to congratulate Indiana.
The better team won that day. Listen, if you want
to win Fly, you got to learn how to lose Fly. I'm about that. Good luck versus the Celtics. I am
going to root for Jason Tatum. I want the black dude to get it. I want the black dude to go ahead
and get a ring. And you had to nix that game. If you watched the first quarter, it wasn't the Nick
team that we all fell in love with. Like those guys were hurt, tired, injured, limping through one of the best defenses,
couldn't guard a pick and roll, the Pacers had the highest field goal
percentage in the history of game sevens at like 71%. That spoke to how tired
the Knicks was. I wouldn't want them to show up to Boston like that. So as a
Knicks fan, after quarter one, I don't want that team showing up to Boston.
I don't.
Like when it's time for us to get there,
y'all know me every year.
I'm like, hey, when the teams that need to leave,
it's time to go.
It's time to go.
And my team is included in that.
So salute to the Knicks.
Again, round of applause for y'all.
And I can't wait to see y'all running back next year.
I would pay OG.
I heart we're gonna have to deal with. Mitch I would trade OG. I heart we gonna have to deal with.
Mitch I would trade and Julius is eligible
for an extension now that may be problematic.
I keep Mitch, I trade Julius, I pay everybody else.
Leon Rose has got his work cut out for him,
is what I'll say.
And I look forward to seeing what he does.
I like just the way that they built the team around that.
Tips, hard nose, defensive, gritty, philosophy, all of that.
Man, KD come.
And you know what Tyler Halliburton, let me say this before I go.
Congrats to the Pacers, way to go Indiana.
Whatever.
It's not Halliburton?
Yeah, but don't put too much.
No, please stop, please. Please. Please. Please. Hey, yo big dog
If you're gonna wear the Reggie Miller choke hoodie
Then wear before the game start
Walk in the building. That's true on that energy
Don't wait till y'all win and go pull the hoodie out of your fucking bag. You pussy you pussy for that
We will see you next season. We will see you next season for that little movie, Paul.
That's it.
Well, can I just say, KD,
I think you need to come to New York.
I think that's who y'all need to go get.
That's it.
I think, KD, this is the moment for the franchise,
somebody of that magnitude,
to put their faith into the organization.
I don't want to start star hunting right now.
But I'm just saying. I think he's the one.
But listen, I'll let it play out. There are people that play out there people that I see there are people that have forgotten more about basketball that I know in charge of
This thing so I'm just let them go ahead. But I would like to see og come back. I don't care that he was hurt
I don't care what he's gonna cost. I feel like any championship team needs those dark one of those
Yeah
Him at heart and you're gonna get rid of him and try to find one of those. And you gave up a lot to get him.
Gave up a lot to get him.
Let's get back to the matter at hand,
which is if you're just now joining us,
we're talking about all things Diddy related.
We're talking about the CNN video
that was released last week.
The apology.
We're talking about the apology.
We're talking about what it means for DV victims out there. What does
it mean for people in power with the power dynamics? What does it mean for
industry that may or may not be complicit with some of this stuff? I don't
think that this is the last video that's coming. I don't either. I think more videos are coming.
Do y'all believe the rumor that this video was obtained in a rate?
Yes. Yes, good and thank God. do. Yes, good, and thank God.
Yeah, I agree with all of that.
I think it speaks to just how sick of a person he really is.
You know what I mean?
Like you hear stories when you hear like serial killers
and serial abusers, they keep evidence
and they keep something.
And also in Cassie's suit,
she explained how he would show her videos
of basically of shit that happened to her
or shit that she thought was deleted and et cetera.
Yeah, when they would have their freak offs.
Sexual shit.
Sorry, when he would initiate the freak offs,
he would film it and he would force her to film it
with her camera as well, her camera phone.
And she would choose to delete it, he kept it.
And so he wanted to exercise his power
and show her the fact that nothing is out of the realm
of me being able to get it back, connect, yeah exactly.
So he would show her videos that she thought
she had deleted off of her phone.
And that was it.
He's sick.
He's sick. He. So operation is sick.
Everything about it is
sick, disgusting,
disheartening. It's nasty.
There's not many
positives in it outside of
her escaping alive.
Does it matter to have the conversation about
what, I mean, we're
all saying he's nasty, we're all saying he's evil, we said cool, 100% but even when like things come out about
R. Kelly and stuff like that we had the conversation about the music is now no longer valid and
do we have that same conversation about Diddy at this point or?
I mean for me it's too early.
Too early?
I'm not on to music right now.
It's a little harder because Diddy didn't necessarily quote unquote make music.
He might have been behind the music, but R. Kelly was the artist.
You know what I'm saying?
Like he's singing, he's performing.
Big Craig Mack, Total, all of those people.
You know what I'm saying?
Like they might have Carl Thomas.
But there are records that he's on, are popular records that now when they come on,
what happens when Benjamin's come on?
What happens when, you know, I think DJs are going to cut his part out.
Okay.
Sure.
He's in the intro.
On some of these songs.
Yeah.
He on the hook.
I think it'll be hard with Benjamin's, but other songs where he is rapping or whatever
the case may be, I think they'll take him off.
Again, I'm not'll take him off.
I mean, again, I'm not on the music aspect of this at all.
I'm not over what I saw.
I'm not over my name being involved in any of this
just on the strength of me having produced a show
on that network.
Because again, that's just how many people you let down.
He let down with this.
Like anybody that's ever stood next to him.
Is now guilty by association.
Is now called to carpet and guilty by association.
And in this land now where everything is safe to assume,
it's assumptions are flying.
People are just assuming, hey, if you was over there,
you seen some shit, I want to reiterate and reinforce
that never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined
seeing something like that.
With the rumors, with everything that I've heard.
Never in my wildest imagination could I envision that
to be the truth, which is sick.
This is a moment of self-reflection for me as well.
Seriously, I feel like if you are around somebody
where these findings come out or in the music business,
we get these moments of, R. Kelly was a moment
of reflection for everybody in the music business.
There's some other instances that I won't say,
but this is one of those for me and it's really taught me some things about how how easy
it is for something to be manipulated right like it's just the stories that
was running around a lot of people did put this on that girl. A lot of people
put this on her they did. And I wanted to answer
your question Mel, where you said when you brought up the Jalen Green versus this, the
reason why a lot of people kind of put it on her, whether true or not, they believe
that that's what the young woman wants, that lifestyle. So it's like even because that's
what you're seeking out. You're seeking out that lifestyle. So it's like even because that's what you're seeking out. You're seeking out that
lifestyle. So you damn near are willing to take whatever come with it to get the lifestyle. So
they make you guilty just by participation damn near. And I think that that it is it is terrible.
But it's so unfair because you know I've already said what the what the age difference was between
the two of them. She was 19 and he was 37 but he signs her as an artist. So now he's not just,
you know, you know, her, her would be Paramore. He's her boss and he signs her to a 10 album deal.
I don't know shit about shit, but to me that sounds fucking crazy. But that lends to the,
to control. Exactly. And you cannot escape. You're not going to go get a bag over there,
making another song.
Ish, not only that, what it lends to
is his thought process in terms of how to control
and his plans to control.
Like this, to me, by reading everything,
it was a calculated effort to make,
to turn her into what he eventually turned her into.
Wasn't that really typical in the music business
though back then, right?
I can't say, I've never been in front of that.
I mean like the five year, ten year,
the five album, ten album deals and shit like that,
that was customary, you know?
I don't know.
Yeah, but I mean, shit, that's one of the other
sick parts about this.
She never put a second album out.
So I mean, you're doing all this,
you got a tie for all these albums,
and speaking of albums, it brings me back to that story
of one of the young songwriters who said she wrote a song
for the Cassie project that was supposed to come out,
and it never came out, but it was a great song
where Cassie was like talking about her experience
with this maniac.
And you know, she later said that he was playing the song
in one of the videos where the abuse was happening. and she later said that he was playing the song
in one of the videos where the abuse was happening.
Like think about how fucking sick this nigga is in the head.
Jesus.
And when I was also saying how the people
underneath his post, the whole truth tells all
or whatever the fuck it said,
and putting up the crowns and et cetera.
I think that collectively, you know,
the average person is looking for people to not just,
not just associate, but like call it out.
You may have a good relationship
or a good professional working relationship
and have had some, you know, personal, you know,
experiences with this person, but you also have eyes.
And I think that that's what everybody's paying attention to is who is currently silent and
not calling out the behavior for what it actually is.
You know what I'm saying?
I think that people are really going to appreciate the fact that you are standing ten toes down
saying he is a piece of shit.
This is me, Joe Biden. This is what I feel. He is a piece of shit. This is me, Joe Biden, this is what I feel.
He is a piece of shit, that shit was disgusting,
there's no excuses for it, et cetera.
I think that that's what people are collectively looking for
from celebrities who have kind of commingled with him
and celebrated him at the moments where
he was to be celebrated.
But now, at this moment, you're quiet.
Yeah, I don't celebrate none of that.
You know what I'm saying?
You even let down the people that looked up to you.
You mentioned that earlier,
and I wanted to double back to that,
only because, I mean, let's just do
the elephant in the room.
The elephant in the room, I had a lot of people
kind of like champion a post I made on Twitter,
and then I had a lot of people also in the comments
kind of like, how can you take that stance
but you sit next to someone who's been accused of things
and all that.
And at first I was like, do I even pay attention to it?
Cause I already know where I stand.
But let's just keep it a stack.
Let's just keep it a buck.
You guys had a lot of things to say in comparison
to some of the things that Joe has been accused of, right?
All the people in the comments that want to ask, I'm addressing.
I've never seen,
I've never been told by him that he's ever done anything like that. I love him. I take his word for it.
If the day comes where that to be a lie and I find out anything different
I will address him in the proper channel the proper way and I will make every
statement in the same fashion that would need to be said but that's not the case
I ain't seen a hit I ain't seen a punch I ain't seen a nothing and I hate that
y'all go ahead and take these moments where we talking about one thing and
try to tangle it into some whole other shit that has nothing to do with this conversation.
So I'm going to stand by my friend who I believe to be telling me the truth about situations
and now when I decide to speak on some shit that we clearly see with evidence and everything,
don't try to compare the two.
And don't try to challenge my character because I decide to make a statement about something
that's in the fucking public and then also be the person who can stand by my friend and take his word for the things that
he said to me.
That is the part.
That is the part.
And that's just it.
That's some of the part that bothered me as well, but it's important to know it's not
about me in this moment.
But it bothered me that there were people out there that were anxious to see what this
pod's response would be to seeing a video of
that nature. Like it really makes you think what it really makes you wonder
what people think of your character, what people think of your moral compass and
your principles and just the things you stand for today. So I'll use this time to restate and reinforce that,
this is corny that niggas gotta do shit like this.
But I will say, not only have niggas went to court
to try to face anybody that ever said this,
like you have your day in court,
but court is not a valued, you know,
what people say about court. When these topics come up, there's have your day in court, but court is not a value, you know, you know what people say about court.
When these topics come up, there's a hesitancy for me,
because people that I was not involved with at all,
or people that wasn't a part of my story or experience,
just get to talking and trying to assassinate,
assassinate my character.
But again, I don't want anybody that's been involved in any toxic relationship.
And when I say toxic, I'm not just talking about physically abusive and any toxic relationship
that turned around and did the work that destroyed and rebuilt that faced the penalty consequence
self-reflected had that honest moment between you and God,
and came out a better person to get confused or mumbo jumbo
with these fucking evil lunatic monsters out there.
You know, it is a thing, and that's what a lot of people's bag is,
because, you know, they are bringing up your past.
Oh, wait, I wanted to jump in. But see, I don't even like doing this right,
because this moment right here,
and people that have experiences like me,
are some of the things that lead to doubt
being expressed when these stories surface.
Like some of the people that have been
through false allegations, some of the people that have been through false allegations, some of the
people that know that there are people out there that manipulate the legal system and
restraining orders and all of this shit. It gets tricky. And the court of public opinion
sometimes far outweighs whatever the legal practices are. I don't really think it matters
that he's charged or not charged. It matters that we know the truth. We know what went on and what happened and
reasonable doubt has been. It's people that's not accepting of you
in our circle with that behavior. I say all that to say that no matter what I
know that there's a community of people out there that's gonna always, you know, once you're here,
we looking at you with the sly eye.
I get that.
My responsibility today is a little greater than that.
One, and you live it how you get it.
I don't live that way.
You're not gonna see that.
I don't condone it.
I ain't about to have this nigga around me.
I can't believe that nigga.
Like I'm still off that.
Go ahead, put it in my bag.
No, I was just saying that I just look at it as
experience is the best teacher.
So, I feel like we all go through things
and we learn from our mistakes.
I feel like, you know, I can speak for myself, man.
It's seeing this and it does hurt and it makes you feel bad, but I can't take the
light off myself because, you know, I was a person that not was like that, but that had
a fair share of issues when it came to women. And I had to learn, like you change over the
time. That's why I would hope that he will get the help. You change over the time. Like
when the people around you look at you and say this,
or when your big homies or your father or your mother's
like, nigga, what are you doing?
Like you got children and you start to look at things
from a different lens.
When the people in your circle in your life
look at you with disgust, that's when things,
that's when you start to look at things.
It's much more different than being a person in power
and feeding everyone is much more different because you a person in power and feeding everyone is much more different
because you wouldn't get the same realism.
But in your home and stuff like that,
my experience, and I don't want to get too much into it,
but that's why I appreciate my wife
and any woman that I've had an issue with in the past
that forgave me for my issues,
for my behavior.
I had an argument with my wife, and I said,
I would talk about the last time we had a fight.
It was like 12 years, and she would be like,
her response to me, like, you proud of that?
She would say that to make fun of me, in a way,
but I'm like, yeah, I'm proud of it
because it shows growth, it's growth within me.
You know what I mean?
I calculate that shit down.
I wasn't perfect.
So that's why I stay quiet during this situation.
I look at it because it's like,
it's from a form of guilt as well
and just like, damn, this shit is nasty out here,
and with that apology that he did,
I can see how someone who's not used to apologizing,
right, don't see the guilt in their behavior.
I don't know if that makes sense.
Like, I can see, like, that, I had to dissect that apology,
because when I apologize for anything that I've done,
like, that shit is full accountability, it comes from the heart, and it to dissect that apology. Because when I apologize for anything that I've done, like that shit.
Full accountability.
Full accountability comes from the heart.
And it's not like that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, that was disingenuous.
It's not so disingenuous, yes.
That's why I don't want to hear nothing
about therapy from niggas.
Well, he's a fucking narcissist.
So narcissists don't have empathy.
When you niggas start talking about therapy,
y'all be talking about the fancy high-end therapy.
Y'all talk about when y'all are home and the therapists come over to your house, go in
your office, in your space and talk for 45 minutes about some bullshit that you got going
on and then they leave and you do that weekly, bi-weekly.
But the therapist is the same as your man or the same as whomever.
You not in there being honest.
We got the $5,000 hour therapist
that's going to keep getting the money
and really not tell you that you want some fucked up bullshit.
You not in there saying, hey, I'm handsy with women.
You not in there really getting down to the core
or whatever the fuck your disease is.
You not in there saying I'm uncontrollable
and I lack the discipline, I can't help myself and I'm hurting people everywhere. I go. I'm leaving a trail to to your point flip
I used to be a bug out to boy was I toxic?
Yeah
when it was all when the perk 30s the mollies when it was all of the
Drugs and alcohol and all of that just a concoction of shit you not in your right mind true
You not you not yourself at some point you'll make enough horrible decisions
where when you look in the mirror
you'll say, I've lost me.
True.
I'm not me anymore.
True.
I need somebody to help me get a hold of my fucking self.
And I really hope he has that moment.
I hope so too.
I hope. Go to the therapist and get honest, nigga,
about everything that you've been doing.
Real quick, E.
That's the true rock bottom.
Put all the drugs down, attention included.
Attention included.
Go sit your fucking ass down somewhere.
Go away.
You not wanted or welcomed right now,
and everybody seem to know that, but you and King Lois.
That's the rock bottom.
Yeah, it took my, it took-
Oh, it ain't rock bottom yet.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It's about your bottom, man.
No, I'm saying, no, I'm saying,
you with yourself, with yourself,
when you're able to really recognize
the person you are, that's rock bottom.
Yo, wait, oh, I'm not like, no, no, I'm not just-
You guys are giving him way too much fucking credit
for having the ability to even self-reflect on that level.
This nigga fucking lacks complete and total self-awareness.
And that is a problem with narcissism.
You cannot see, you can't see him.
Everybody has the ability to see.
I'm sorry, I just don't have the faith.
Hold up, and even if you write, even if you write,
even if you write and people can't reflect that way,
then go to the therapist and get honest about actions.
You don't have to see it in yourself.
Go to the therapist and say,
yo, I keep beating bitches up.
Just say what happens.
And the therapist will lead you right
where the fuck you supposed to be
if you have the right one.
He ain't going in there saying that shit.
I think there's mad people that been around
that had no idea about what happens in closed quarters.
I'm not talking about the people that did. But I think there's people around that had no idea about what happens in closed quarters. I'm not talking about the people that did.
But I think there's people around that had no idea,
working every fucking day.
I believe that.
I believe that there was people that had no idea
and I believe that there is a significant amount
of people that had every fucking idea.
But to me, the whole concept of him going to therapy,
that's fucking forced attrition.
That is not any sense of altruism,
of I truly want to get better.
That is, I need to get back up to where I just,
the pedestal I just fell off of.
That's tough to say because nobody knows that but him.
And I was about to say, that's not fair to say either
because some people don't know how,
y'all know how I feel about therapy,
but some people don't know how to course correct.
True.
You understand what I'm saying?
So if you don't necessarily know how to course correct,
you may not be good with self-reflection. Flip just said the nigga been up for? So if you don't necessarily know how to course correct, you may not be good with self-reflection.
Flip just said the nigga been up for 35 years, he don't even know how to fuck it.
Well he's talking about therapy and rehab and so he thinks that that is a form of, I'm
sorry.
So he's saying basically the nigga didn't even know how to give an apology.
You think he know how to sit with himself and self-reflect on what I'm doing wrong?
That's why I said that.
Accountability ain't for niggas, that's up $100 million.
That's why I said that is the true form of rock bottom
when you really have to admit to yourself,
yo, you go to NEAA.
No.
NEAA, the first step towards going ahead
and rehabilitating yourself is I have to accept
who the fuck I am.
Now, cool.
That's the first step.
He, the apology alone lets you know he didn't accept that
because he didn't acknowledge that.
No, you know what he did.
We ain't supposed to talk about it,
because it's anonymous, of course.
Yo, you know what he did though?
He said, yo, I was fucked up.
This is what happened.
I was fucked up.
So now, you're not blaming yourself,
you blaming the substance.
Mm-hmm.
You get what I'm saying?
I was fucked up, I was out of my mind, I was drunk,
I was, you know, I hit this particular place.
So you still not saying, yo, that was me, that was something had a hold on me that made me do those things
That's why I'm speaking to when he used that term rock bottom
He doesn't even really have an understanding of what rock bottom actually is
So I know what you're saying
You don't know bro
I hear what you're saying
If you used that term rock bottom if you did hit the rock bottom and all that, you wouldn't have made that damn appell of that
I'm innocent.
You wouldn't even get on camera.
You wouldn't have done that.
You wouldn't even get on camera at that.
I'm not even talking about the apology.
No, you're right.
If you were at rock bottom at your time of doing that
and you know it, you don't come back a month later,
less than a month later after that and say,
I deny everything, none of this happened,
this person was looking for a payday.
I'm not letting that go.
My nigga, you've been in the rock bottom since. I'm stuck there. I don't give a fuck about this apology or none of that other, this person was looking for a payday. I'm not letting that go. I'm stuck there.
I don't give a fuck about this apology
or none of that other shit that he's talking about.
How long the rock bottom lasts?
It's different.
Yo, listen, it's the, it's the, it's the,
Oh, it could last.
It's different from there.
He ain't there yet.
He ain't seen where it is.
You know, I do agree with, which I said earlier,
it's the people around you, man.
Yeah, that shit is real.
It took my three-year-old daughter
to say something for me to reflect.
Like that says something to my three year old daughter at the time.
I don't like when people do that, man.
I don't want to dismiss what you're saying, but I just don't like when we... I want to
focus on this nigga.
Yes.
Because I don't know what he displaying to other people.
I don't know what he displaying to his kids.
I don't know what we not seeing.
Yo, let me tell y'all something.
We know each other, we work, but we don't see what everybody doing on a regular basis. I don't know what's happening in park sounds. I really don't know what we not seeing. Yo, let me tell y'all something. We know each other, we work, but we don't see what everybody doing on a regular basis.
I don't know what's happening in Park's house.
I really don't know what's happening.
So I can assume that Parks and Rem is great.
And we don't know.
And I'm not putting that on.
I'm just saying, I don't want to make this about,
even when I want to say something about seeing King Lowson,
somebody, I don't even want to mention his name
because I love him.
So I don't want to, but I seen when he was walking. And I don't want to mention him. But I seen when he was walking and-
I love King Loos too.
And I don't want to mention him,
because at first when I first saw it,
I thought it was like, oh, that's whack, it's clank.
But then I don't know what they saying to him.
They really could be there.
They both very intellectual men,
both come up to be very righteous
and touch with spirituality.
I'm glad people are with him.
Right. Hold up now.
Those are the people I would want to be with.
I was about to say that.
He's a fucking monster.
Yeah.
But I'm glad that people are with him because we're gonna compound the problem if he do
something to himself. Cause I don't think his, I think, I don't think his daughters
have nothing to do with this. And I think that's fucked up. I'm not wishing death on
nobody. If y'all want me to do that, that's not who I am. That's not who I am in my soul
and spirit. I can say that that niggas a sack of shit in a piece of shit and needs all the help in the world or needs
To be fucking go fly away somewhere nigga. Go away. Go away. Nobody nobody has a solution
No, nobody has even when we talk and I'm mad to focus is even on this nigga and not the and that
the victims
I mean we're gonna gonna say about the,
nobody has a solution for anything.
All we gonna say is that, all you can say is that
nigga lay low and shit like that,
but nobody's gonna have a solution.
No, I'm just saying, we can say you sick in the soul.
Yeah, okay, we all.
And go away.
We hope you get it, but go get it over with.
Go away, all right, so but then you're not wishing
for him to get better.
So do me a favor, do me a favor.
So the people that, hold on, stop.
The people that's there with him, thank God,
like you said, I do agree with that.
Thank God somebody's dead with him that seems righteous
that can help him reflect and talk to him.
I agree with that part.
Niggas just like, yo, just go away,
oh, you're a narcissist, all this shit, like, all right, and?
I bring it back up to, I love Parks.
If I see something in Parks, no matter what he do,
if I see something in Parks that I feel at some point, I need to say, and vice versa.
If Parks sees something in me where it's like, yo, nigga, you bugged, I want Parks to pull
me to the side, still go ahead and speak to the public the way you need to.
Yo, my friend is bugging, he's wrong.
Boom, boom, hold me to it.
But then also if you feel like there's something that can be redeemed, and maybe they feel
like there's something that can be redeemed in this, man, That's not for us to judge. Go stand next to him, walk
with him, yo come take this long walk with me. Yo, you bugging the fuck out. Boom, boom,
boom. I don't know what those conversations look like. When we say, oh it's the people
around him, I don't know. It's him. It's him. Let's fuck everybody else around him. Fuck
who knew what and who didn't. It's him.
And also it's not the responsibility of anybody around you.
But you make that's called addiction because earlier
you was you caught yourself earlier.
You said the people around him are not telling me anything
and I was agreeing with you.
You mixing it.
I'm not saying that.
I'm sure.
Yes, you mixed it both of y'all you mixing what I'm saying
when I said the people around them.
I said niggas is that when you had had that much power.
I brought my three year old daughter that made me reflect
because that's my daughter that's around me
that made me look like I'm a piece of shit
for acting like this in my house.
I'm saying that the people around them,
if you fucking paying people and people are scared of you,
they're not gonna say nothing.
Whether you're, nigga, kids see everything.
Y'all tell me, I don't know the kids,
kids see everything.
Hold on, kids hear the story?
Nigga, mom passed away.
Kids know everything that's going on.
I'm saying, I'm saying it's easier to assume
that people ain't saying nothing
in comparison to other people.
Well we gotta stop, nigga this is reality.
This is when you drunk with power, nigga, nobody's dead.
That's not true.
That's not true.
Hold on.
That's not true.
You just said that Gene Dale saw him, nigga.
What are you talking about?
You just said Gene Dale saw him.
And he spoke about it.
Okay, so what I'm saying is that how you saying that people around him is not seeing things?
What are you saying?
You just said a nigga saw us, you just said earlier, Paul.
Again, I don't wanna.
You just said earlier, somebody saw us,
she said earlier, what, why,
she's male said earlier that people are not saying anything.
Who is in this corner that's not saying anything to him?
Two things can be true, Flip.
There's people that could be seeing shit,
and then there's also people who could not be seeing shit.
So you're speaking for the ones that's not seeing.
I'm speaking to just, let's be, just let's be react. Let's deal reality
Let's deal with the fact that we don't know what the fuck is going on with who knows what and who doesn't know what?
All we can do is appreciate the people who do speak up and then just allow us to focus
Just allow us to speak up. Are you just said we don't have to know those people are y'all have to get stuck here rest
Yes, Andre Harrell what What I think you're saying is,
again, we in safe to assume land,
but in that, I believe there to be good men
around Puff to try to say something to him.
I believe that.
That might be one of the reasons that niggas get fired.
I also believe there are some people
that know what's going on, that didn't say a word.
Mm-hmm.
But I don't think that Puff is running around,
I'm assuming, I don't know, I haven't seen,
I haven't been a witness.
I don't think Puff is running around
with like a mob of monsters,
and it's almost like a slap in the face
to think that you could get as far as you could get
if your whole crew was just monsters.
I don't believe that.
Now, ultimately it's on him.
You could come up to me at some point
and say whatever you said.
Listen, when it was a point where it seemed like
I was a little erratic and out of control,
thank God for, thank God for court.
Hey dog, whatever is happening is off.
Something's wrong and you need help.
Not talking about abuse.
I'm just talking about anything for me.
For me, for me, for me,
them stories that came out about me,
it wasn't time to say, hey, hey, hey, that's not true.
It was time to say, well, what's going on with me
that keeps attracting bullshit?
How do I keep getting myself in this fucking mess?
Yeah, you got to have good people around you to say,
hey, yo, dog, it's time.
Fuck what you talking about.
Fuck what you talking about now.
So yeah, when you powerful like that,
maybe you nix those people.
Maybe you get that shit, fuck what you talking about.
I'm riding.
And when you employ all of these people, you let so many people down. I can't get that shit. Fuck what you're talking about. I'm riding. And when you
employ all of these people, you know you let so many people down. I can't leave that point. I can't
leave that point. You've let the women in your life down. You let the people that look up to you
down. You've left your family and legacy. You've let your family and legacy name down. You've let
every artist that's ever worked with you down. You've let the labels. You've let any business
that look to you as the spokesman because all you've had to sell recently is your name
on shit. All you've been doing is running around, putting your name on shit and
attracting the audience. Us.
Nah. The smoke and mirrors.
Nah, nah. And that's why I hate this cockamamie fucking industry, man. It's all
fucking, it's all a facade. Everybody's fake, everybody's phony, everybody doing some other shit and just
protecting brands and whoever got the momentum, whoever got some traction, whoever can get shit
rolling, we moving right over there to you and we don't give a fuck what you got going on in your
side life. Hey the hosting gig is over is what I'm saying. The time of all that I'm an amazing host and house guest and
and and what's that shit and when the house guests come over and the kickback
and the girls and the drugs on the tray all of that fancy fly shit the high-end
wines and shit it's over my nigga. I'm pretty sure it's gonna be over for
freedom. I think that writing is becoming on the wall. I don't by the day. I don't know that if so
great
What they say the percentages of feds coming through your crib like yeah
No, but we can't understand billy they come we can't understand billion
This is different business. It's a different world of shit going on right now, and I'm not going to pretend to know
all about it.
I agree with that.
I don't know all about it, and I think what our normal brains know, it's a higher level
of poker being played right now.
I don't think this is the time to discuss it, because you were complicit in the fucking
part that you played of beating on this girl the way that you did.
So it ain't the time to say, oh, the power that be,
oh, they've ruined another black, one of our greats,
hey, the white person can do it if we can.
No, no, that's not what I'm saying.
No, no, no, but people also need it.
And they can shut the fuck up, to be honest with you.
I don't care, they can shut up.
Rhyan, you still did this shit.
It's not like they made up some shit,
and yo, that wasn't me.
You did that. You made it easy for them. If that's what's going on, you gave them a door.
Not to, I don't want to, cause I don't want to respond like I'm taking it because there
is an important part about both of y'all saying the people who were complicit and we should
hold them accountable for sure. We just don't know for sure.
But that's also what I was saying. Like I didn't contradict myself earlier because I was talking about accountability and the people going to hold you back. I'm sure of that. But that's also what I was saying. I didn't contradict myself earlier
because I was talking about accountability
and the people around you holding you accountable.
What I was saying is that they are not rehabilitation centers
for your bad deeds.
That is on you.
The onus is on you.
That is a sense of personal responsibility
that that motherfucker, I do not believe that he has.
So your friends holding you accountable,
they're not your fucking therapists.
You need to seek professional help to fix your shit.
So that was the point that I was trying to make about, you know, your circle
keeping you on the righteous fucking path, which evidently did not work here.
For now, it was gracious enough to have a domestic violence psychologist on standby.
I think now is a good time to give her a call.
All right, perfect, right?
All right, look at us.
Fuck with CNN talking about it.
Joe Buddenpod breaking it down.
Big Mel.
The JVN.
Hi, this is Mercedes.
Hi, Mercedes.
Hey, Melissa.
How are you?
Good, how are you? I'm good.
We're up here on the podcast, me and the boys,
Joe Budden and the rest of the guys.
And we're just.
Hi.
What's that?
The rest of the guys, right?
Well, I mean, I didn't, let me introduce everybody.
No, that's fine.
That's cool.
No, no, no, that's the boys.
How you doing, Mercedes?
Hi Mercedes, how are you?
Hey Mercedes.
Good, how are you guys?
Good, so we're dissecting the Diddy Cassie situation.
I'm sure that you've seen the video
that dropped on Friday,
and then you've seen his subsequent apology.
And we wanted to talk to an expert
as it relates to the mentality
of victims of domestic violence, because one of the main things that I saw
Running through the comment section is people wondering why she would stay in a situation like that
And also the mentality of said abusers. I just think that there's like a lot of kind of like
confusion as it relates to you know
Domestic violence as a whole and then you know then I thought that you'd, go ahead.
It's a disconnect.
Yeah.
And so I think one of the biggest things is the men,
because we've had the argument amongst ourselves
of was she complicit because she could have just
walked away, she should have left,
she had ample time to leave, and then somebody says,
no, it's almost like Stockholm Syndrome
where you don't leave, you know what I'm saying?
You almost. Let her tell us.
No, so that's what I was trying to clarify to her like that's the
argument we were having off camera so I think absolutely there is kind of a
divide right now about why someone would stay in a situation like that and to us
as the viewers it seems obvious that if something feels unhealthy and can be that physically
violent that a person should just walk.
It's much more complicated than that, obviously, because there are psychological factors involved
besides the obvious, which is the fear factor.
I mean, from the video that we've seen, if a person is capable of being that violent in public
We could only imagine what happens in private and so we also have to recognize that domestic violence or intimate violence
Amongst partners doesn't occur overnight
So by the time a person becomes violent in their relationship, there's been a lot of emotional bondage and
bonding that has occurred. So, you know, typically the cycles of abuse start off with love bombing,
where the person makes the victim feel like the most important person in their lives.
This typically hooks a victim to become emotionally bonded and in a way biochemically addicted
to the perpetrator and the good times and the happy times.
We also have to consider that after this stage, although the tension starts to build and eventually
it becomes violent, the victim still hopes that the person is capable of changing because
what typically happens is that after the violence,
there's a stage of reconciliation.
And this reconciliation is typically
where there's these grand gestures of gifts and apologies
and shame and remorse that is expressed
that makes the victim believe as though it is genuine and as though they are
the one that could save the perpetrator from their own abusive lifestyle.
And I do believe that this relationship is a very common profile in domestic violence
cases.
I think that one of the things that people really also struggle with when they look at
this particular one is, is it played out in the public eye to a certain extent.
We watched the progression of Diddy and Cassie's relationships over the course of basically
like 15 years.
So we watched it play out and so now we've been confronted with the dark side of what
happened when the cameras weren't rolling and nobody was around.
And I think that we were discussing the inability to understand that regardless of status, regardless of finances,
regardless of your station in life, domestic violence is pervasive through all, you know, is pervasive. You know, it affects anybody in any class, status,
creed, color, religion, gender.
Gender, it doesn't have a face.
Absolutely.
I mean, it is, I mean, on average, one of three women
have been the victim of violence, and one of four men.
So this is not just something that happens to women
and these are cases that are reported. The majority of domestic violence or intimate
partner violence is not reported. So there are so many homicide cases both in men and women
of intimate partner abuse.
Mercedes, can I ask you a question? I know a lot of times we talk about domestic violence, we focus in on the victim because
we want to give them that, the respect of the attention for them.
But can you speak to the person who's usually the abuser, what's the likelihood of them
changing their actions?
Like how do they, how often do they turn a leaf with some type of rehabilitation or therapy?
I think that's a fantastic question and I do think that it is unfortunate that we don't
spend enough time looking at the perpetrators of violence because it doesn't really allow
for much change to happen and I as, as a mental health professional, always focus on how to prevent
cases from repeating themselves. And so we have to look at typically there's a very specific profile
that conditions a person to become a perpetrator of violence, especially intimate partner violence.
Typically these are men who have either had father issues or were raised by
a single parent, which is the case in this scenario as well. Typically these are people
who have higher rates of anxiety and depression and so the way to deal with it typically is with substance abuse, with misdirected anger and rage. These
are men who oftentimes feel very out of control within themselves and so the way to gain a
sense of control they exert it upon others who are more helpless than them. And so I
think if we look at it from that perspective that no child wants to become a perpetrator of violence
and no child wants to become a victim of violence, we could hopefully make some changes in the
future in preventing this.
I think right now it is so much on demonizing the good and the bad instead of looking at
what made this person become the person they have become now?
And I think if we look at it that way,
there are definitely cases where perpetrators of violence
could change their lives, get the help they need,
do the healing that they need to do,
work on the fear within themselves,
and absolutely change is possible.
Sorry, I was just thinking. Zoned out, yeah.
No, I mean, I was just,
because I was applying this to him
and we've just, to me,
I think that there's like an added layer here
just in terms, and that's just my own personal opinion.
That just, we just have an added layer of like personal of a personality disorder you know I'm saying like when you
saw his apology what were your thoughts because we've all expressed what our immediate thoughts
to watching his apology apology what were your thoughts when you watched his apology
immediate reaction well I think it was similar to what I'm sure most people had, which was that the apology was because of the heat of the situation,
maybe not necessarily because of genuine self-reflection.
I think it's too soon for a person to, after all these years of certain behaviors,
to have
deep reflections that lead to genuine long-lasting change.
However, regardless of something is a personality disorder or not, I do think that people are
capable of change if given the time and the healing in the right circumstances. Mercedes, also can you speak to probably the best thing that people who support the victims
and the abusers, what they should do in order to help the situation?
Because I know a lot of times people would rather either stay silent or be very vocal.
How should people who are close to both parties usually
address this type of thing, especially if it's this public?
Yes, so in regards to the victim, I think that instead of using logic as a friend or
family member to say, just leave, I think we have to be much more empathic and do our research on all the complexities that the victim is dealing with.
And just as with addiction, the person, the victim needs to be removed from the situation.
But in order for that to happen, there needs to be safety planning, meaning there needs to be a safety pack prepared. So helping the victim to create a pack with legal documents, identification, medication
if they're taking any, just so that they safely have a plan for when they actually are ready
to leave.
On average, statistically it's been shown that victims of intimate partners have tried
at least seven times to leave before they actually succeed.
And so it's not as simple as just leave.
And as people who want to support the victims, I think to help them understand that it is
not easy to do so, but to help them with the right resources, the right phone
numbers to call, to help the safety planning to put in place, and to then help them actually
be removed to a location where the perpetrator cannot find them.
Okay.
Mercedes Kaufman, professor of psychology, family therapist.
My friend, thank you so much for joining us today.
I really appreciate your insight.
This was really, really incredible and valuable.
I thank you so much.
We'll talk in a little bit, okay?
Thank you guys so much.
Have a good day.
Same to you.
And in typical J.B.P. fashion,
somebody already found Mercedes' Instagram.
Oh my God.
You guys are monsters. No, we were trying to just see what other types of...
What other faces.
No, no, no.
I just want to see what other therapies she do.
That's true.
That's true.
Niggas need help.
We need help.
A little physical therapy.
Niggas need some help.
Yeah.
All right.
Who's DV'd out?
Can't pay that.
No.
Who is tired of having this dark cloud loom over the room that's supposed to be fun and full of entertainment?
That's what I'm saying.
Okay.
Is that better?
That's a better way to word it.
I feel like it's time to move on.
I agree. Of course I had to have a music bed underneath that.
It's called producing.
Okay, alright, well.
You shouldn't just be-
You are excellent.
Did you, right?
Yeah, that'd be good.
Prayers out to Cassie, man.
Any victims-
Any victims.
All the victims.
Cassie.
Survivors.
Her husband, her family, anybody that loves her.
Any victim of domestic violence domestic abuse
sexual abuse
direct or indirect
Yeah, man, and don't be ashamed to speak your truth
You know what song is this?
That's why fuckers you know shit
Who else they don't know what song is this so I can fire you?
I know the sound, eh?
Smooth Operator?
Holy shit!
You're gonna get fired anyway.
This is my man so I can't fire him over this. Ice, you know this song?
I don't know this song.
Huh? You never heard this song?
I've heard it.
Okay, good. I know Imani Mellon.
I thought this shit was smooth operator
Don't tell him don't tell him don't tell him don't tell him
Actually, I'm letting this rock roll a little bit. Don't you watch the Stax documentary?
Who's this? My Angelo? Stax was the label Otis Redding was signed to Isaac Hayes Booker T and the MGs
It's on HBO and it's absolutely fucking phenomenal.
Gotta go watch that.
It reminded me of it because this song is mostly instrumental and their first big hit
was Green Onions which was an instrumental record.
No, I have to watch that.
You have to watch it.
I didn't even know it existed.
Yeah, it came out last night.
It just, yeah.
It came out last night.
Oh great, great, great.
Four part series, about an hour each.
Absolutely phenomenal.
You watched all four?
Three of the four.
I couldn't.
I got three at one o'clock, I had to get to bed. Absolutely phenomenal. You watch all four. Three of the four. I couldn't.
I got three at one o'clock.
I need to get to bed.
Good ol' Carlos Santana.
Let's do this for the music novices in here.
Donuts.
Y'all know this song, right?
Yeah.
Flip.
Antoine.
Yeah.
Don't worry about it. I got y'all. Mm.
First reality.
First reality.
This shit was fire.
That's crazy.
Yo, we never heard from these niggas.
We never heard from these niggas.
He didn't even make it number one either.
That's crazy.
Yo, wait, I'm on it.
You gotta stop hating on R&B groups.
I was giving them props.
We never heard from, we should've.
That's how you give them props?
Yo, we never heard from them niggas again, ain't it?
It's crazy to have a hit that big and not
to have another hit.
I have a hit that big, I think it won Grammy.
It won a lot.
And to never hear from them again is crazy.
Where'd they go?
That's not hate.
You gotta get that R&B hate out your soul.
That's that, I'ma tell the truth hate.
Yo, that niggas is crazy,
they shoulda had another score, right?
I think I'm highlighting how-
Crazy, we never heard of them niggas again after that.
They call one and disappear.
Y'all like them niggas?
It's fucked up.
That's fucked up.
I think everybody that catch a hit that big
should be recognized.
That was a big record.
You put the money behind them, why not?
You on the biggest record of that year?
Khaled did what he had to do.
No, that's not even a record.
That's Rihanna record now.
Wow, wow, hey.
Wow, wow, hey.
Fuck them two niggas.
You play that over this one?
No.
Exactly.
So no.
Well, I'm trying to figure out who's the winner.
Who's, all right., wait, wait, wait.
Who's, who's there?
We have entered a good debate.
Who there?
I might try to pull the blend a little.
I bet you didn't know this is where they got that sample from.
I like those.
I like those.
Yeah, you got to sometimes.
If they there, they want to hear Rihanna, bro.
If we on vacay.
Who's there?
Who's there?
The hoes?
The hoes.
Yes.
Respectfully.
You want to shake it, shake it, shake it. Yeah, they do. I want to be around some hoes? The hoes. Yes. The hoes. Respect to the-
You wanna shake it, shake it, shake?
Yeah, they do.
I wanna be around some hoes that know what that Carlos
in the Tantana is.
That's what I'm saying.
I agree.
They know.
That's the old hoes.
You said which one do you play?
I'm playing the-
If they think-
I'm playing the blend.
I'm playing, well a blend is good,
but I'm going with Carlos.
I'm going with Carlos.
I'm going with Rihanna,
because I know what Rihanna do to the hoes.
No. Now I gotta see it.
It came in a little,
a little,
see the real one comes in different,
because it's music.
It's actual music.
Oh, they're both from that.
Oh please, I'm not rocking with it.
That's no different.
They're both programs.
They're both program drums.
You play with what you.
They're both program drums.
Everything on the original is not program. I don They're both program drums. You play with what you do. They're both program drums. Everything on the original is not programmed.
I don't care about the drums.
There's no element of live music on the other one,
and I'm gonna play them both.
Man, what type of women are you trying to attract?
I'm trying to, hoes.
No.
All right.
Yo, we just did two hours.
I just did two hours about these niggas
fucking with these hoes.
Hey, now you're gonna say that.
And y'all come right in.
Incorrigible.
You cannot go wrong with Rihanna and hoes.
Oh, man.
Maria, Maria.
I don't know, y'all.
I don't know.
Yo, y'all leave it in the comments which Maria y'all rather hear Carlos Santana or
Khaled and Rihanna.
They both work though, let's be clear.
The pretty girls fuck.
All that shit came from Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothing to fuck with.
Rewind, select, ah.
Liquid me.
Gunshot me.
The guitar riff is a wee wee ho.
That's like the Wu-Tang record. select ah
That the riff is from Wu-Tang. The guitar riff. That's a guy.
No.
Clef has said that.
Like nah, I took the...
Oh yeah, I saw that.
I heard that.
I saw that.
He did say that.
Another one.
That?
Wu-Tang for the kids?
No.
Wu-Tang forever.
Another one.
Alright, y'all teach her later.
This is a music podcast.
If you don't know what's happening in music, please protect somebody later.
Enough.
Enough.
DJ Khaled. I don't know if you can take it
Know you wanna see me naked, naked, naked
I wanna be your baby, baby, baby
Spinning in the switches like you gave from Big Ten
Brother, we still got no problem
But I get like this, I can't put it right
I'm too listed to turn it down tonight
Cause I can answer things that I'm gon' do
Wow wow wow
Wow wow wow
That's five
Yeah, that's five
That's five, it's not fucking with you
Yeah
Wow wow wow That's five I'm not fucking with you. Hey! Shit! Rihanna should just sonically sound better.
Cool!
Rihanna should sound better.
Sonically.
This shit fire, nigga.
It's better.
Yo, maybe I'm a music head.
I'm gonna always pick Carlos Santana.
Of course you are!
I get that.
I'm gonna always be Carlos Hey, beat my kid off the corner And the reaches, he reached out
The boys get it for money
Hey, on the corner
Come on over to the ticket plate
Get on the real door with Rihanna, come on
Wow, that's hot, let's go, flip
I bet you that mama cheetah, I bet you that mama cheetah
I bet you that mama cheetah, I bet you that mama cheetah
I bet that mama cheetah, I bet that mama che, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah, cheetah Don't even listen to I don't think Maria really even get up from her seat when I went every honest telling you
I just look at a type of woman that's fucking with that Maria Maria that Maria Maria is on and Salma Hayek dust till dawn
Desperado dancing yes
Y'all talking about just letting all the sexy red bitches get up and feel nobody said nothing about them
I'm talking about the holes and the holes love which goes back to what?
Holes love which goes back to what Joe?
Does till dawn chicks ain't getting up for why why why we not not like not like they're getting up to Marie They don't even know what that would like not like yeah, they don't they don't stay what's going on
You know music is a language y'all talking about the people that heard the more popular record more recently and will react to it
I want to see what the girl who this song ain't been played
and will react to it. I want to see what the girl who this song ain't been played
since West Bubblefuck back then when it was out
and it does something to your body when it comes on.
It's just two different women.
No, it does something to us.
They both work.
No, I'm talking about the ho
that when she hears that, it do something to her body too.
Why you keep saying the ho?
I like the hoes.
I'm talking about the hoes, bro.
That's why when he first started this,
I said, who is here?
But Wild Thoughts is gonna make all them
fucking Hennessy drinking hoes pop up
and start throwing at like, move bitch.
I'm drinking any too.
Y'all don't like Hennessy drinking hoes?
No, no, no.
You're fucking lying ass.
No, no, no.
Y'all are popping.
That's the bitch that got her shoes on for the club.
Y'all got it.
No, I got it, I got it.
I like my woman to drink a lemon drop or sangria. That's it thing, she got her shoes off in the club. Look at Noah. Man, shut the fuck down. I like my woman to drink a lemon drop or sangria.
That's it, facts.
I like my woman classy, not sure assy.
You niggas are pigs.
The Riddler.
Yo, I hate his riddles.
Just so y'all know.
Classy to sure assy.
Freaks.
Flying y'all ass off, but it's all good.
Yeah.
Wow, wow, wow, thought.
Yeah.
I was expecting with a lemon drop.
But you are how old?
40.
40 is 39 plus.
No, it's not, nigga.
40 is 39 plus.
You ain't really 40 yet.
I know you just turned 40. It's like when you turn 30 nigga talk me when you get 32 33 nigga
Yeah, fuck with the bitch. Yeah, you maybe got enough energy to fuck with the girl
Oh, you married but you know what I dusty friends? Yeah, let's go. Can you get seven shots for my dusty friends
from the projects too?
I sure can.
I know, and that's the difference right there.
The Hulk Hogan, they want the Hulk Hogan.
What's that shit?
Incredible Hulk.
Incredible Hulk.
The Hulk Hogan.
The Hulk Hogan.
Sorry, the Incredible Hulk.
That bullshit.
What is that, hypnotic?
Mel, you drink Henny?
No.
Exactly.
See, niggas wanna fuck the girl like Mel.
But you was singing Wild Thoughts, I saw you.
I was.
You was like, wow.
Niggas wanna fuck the girls like Mel.
Not them little dusty Project chicks
that was putting the Hennessy bottle
in their pussy that you brought to the car.
Sure, he cashed me.
We all for that.
We all for that.
We all wanna fuck you, bitch.
Don't say nothing, just sit back.
Don't say nothing, my man.
Don't say nothing.
Hold us down, nigga.
Don't say nothing.
What?
Put that on me.
A girl who Hennessy is her first option
when the waitress comes home.
That bitch smoke black in my house.
He just changed it right there.
Yeah, y'all want bitches that smoke black in my house.
Black, you know, they get a black.
They got this.
Y'all want chicks that roll them.
Take cancer people out?
They roll them like this.
Get all this stuff.
Put it on the cut to your car and then get it.
That one's a black, they smoke green. He want a chick that roll out on a cigarette?
You want a chick that fucking smoke tobacco like a pitcher?
She chew it.
Chew on that shit.
That's crazy.
That was filthy.
Where's the chick rolling?
That's disgusting.
Anyways, what else we got?
What else we got?
What else we got?
What else we got?
Give it to me.
Give it to me.
Somebody. There was a lot of fun stuff. There was a lot of fun. Anyways, what else we got? What else we got? What else we got? What else we got?
Give it to me.
Give it to me, somebody.
There was a lot of fun stuff.
There was a lot of fun.
This is kind of bouncing off of the Diddy conversation,
but something that people are talking about is
Cam's appearance on CNN.
His response to-
You beat up, let us do this.
Don't say nothing.
I will.
We'll do this without you.
I will.
I mean, listen, I'll be honest with you. I mean listen I that was honest with you
I didn't see a problem with what he did because I think what happened is he went there under different pretences of what the conversation Gonna be about that's what so if you get there and they try to bombard you with some other shit that you don't want
Talk about yeah, I'm fucking around with the interview now now. I'm gonna go drink my pink horse
Yeah, it's cam bro like that
People like y'all that was so cringe.
How could you laugh at that?
I found that hilarious.
I think it was funny.
They don't remember the pink horse power.
They don't remember the Bill O'Reilly moment at all.
You mad, they don't remember all that.
Exactly, I got dirt on you, doggy.
I got dirt.
My mom didn't think that was funny.
She don't know nothing about this Bill O'Reilly shit
y'all talking about.
She don't know nothing about it.
Cam, it's Cam, I got some calls.
50 niggas hit me earlier and sent it to me.
Pause.
And they paused.
A lot of these dudes is black business dudes
in our age range.
And...
They upset?
Yeah.
Cause why he...
Cause he went out there in front of white people
and acted like that.
Fuck them white people.
Sorry, I don't mean it that way, but...
Yo, his whole platform.
That's him. His whole platform, even with the sports shit, he's doing it directly the way he doing
it so that he can be Cam.
He's on there talking about sports, but he's talking about it in a way where other people
wouldn't allow it.
He hasn't went ahead and did business to have to go.
Bill O'Reilly went up there to talk his shit.
And this, let's just say he did go up there under false pretenses.
I'm going to go ahead and talk my shit and it ain't going to affect me because everything
that I'm doing in business right now is.
This is me.
It's me.
And that's what I don't like when people do that and they say that whole like you went
up there doing acting this way around white people or whatever the case may be.
Bruh, Cam got where he is right now by being him.
So now for me to go here and code switch or do any of that other shit and I'm not going to be myself because y'all might feel the way about it. And y'all asked me to go here and code switch or do any of that other shit and I'm not going to be myself
because y'all might feel the way about it.
And y'all asked me to be here.
I didn't call y'all.
No, I'm going to come up here and be me.
And y'all up here trying to get me to talk.
Y'all wanted him to kick Diddy back in.
Which he did though too.
And he also said like, I don't fuck with that.
I don't have no experience with the niggas.
So whatever else you trying to get, they trying to make him explain Mace comments.
Yo, you got to ask Mace about that people saying people saying he tone deaf to how they they run a shit
Maybe CNN's tone deaf to the person they had up there. You should have did more research on
Did you recognize that Sean Combs?
No, this answer was funny, though.
This was great.
Do you recognize that Sean Combs?
First of all, when I seen the video,
everything in the video was egregious.
I'm against.
Facts.
I don't support all the charges that's alleged against him.
I don't support any of that trafficking, minors,
domestic violence. I'm totally against it.
So when I seen the video, yeah, I was kind of upset with it.
Being that I know him, he's not necessarily a friend,
but yeah, I was upset when I see him.
Did you recognize that kind of anger at all?
She tried it again.
What's up?
I don't know what you mean, do I be recognized?
Do I be recognized?
Do you see what my experience is? She tried it again. What's the... I don't know like that. What do you mean do I be right there now? I did not see him.
What do you mean my experience is this?
I seen him and I thought it was disgusting.
I didn't do a zoom in.
That's it.
He's doubling down.
It's for being here.
First...
Erin, sorry.
He admitted it was him, so yeah, it was him.
What did you think about the apology that he gave in that other video?
The apology ain't for me to decide, it's for Cassie.
What I think about Cassie is that she's not the only one who's going to be in the video.
She's going to be in the video.
She's going to be in the video.
She's going to be in the video.
She's going to be in the video.
She's going to be in the video.
She's going to be in the video.
She's going to be in the video.
She's going to be in the video. She's going to be in the video. She's going to be in the video. She's going to be in the video. She's going to be in the video. What did you think about the apology that he gave in that other video?
I ain't mean for this. The apology ain't for me to decide for Cassie.
What I think about it don't matter.
Yeah.
He ain't do nothing to me.
Cassie need to, need to ask Cassie if she accept.
In his own care way, he is in his publicist bag.
Yes.
I want to play a conversation that you had on your podcast.
See?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's agonizing me.
Yeah.
Listen.
You pushing it, man. Don't play nothing for my podcast. When you had on your podcast. All right, I see, Ma. Yeah, yeah. Tagging on to me. Yeah, you pushing it, Ma.
Don't play nothing from my podcast.
When you had your record deal,
why did you take me to Biggie Smalls and not Bad Boy?
Man, it's almost gonna bring me to tears to say this.
I just, being that I saw you as such a good friend,
I went put you with somebody I knew.
Thank you, man.
I really appreciate that.
A lot of people ask me that on Instagram.
Yeah, I knew it.
I'm not going to start here crying and shit.
I don't want to get emotional in here, man.
Instantly, I knew Biggie would.
He admitted it with something.
Right, right.
Can you tell us a little bit more about that?
She's still at it.
Yeah. I'm going to in the industry about how Diddy treated his artists?
All right, he's promoting now.
He's sipping his...
Head spinning.
Yeah, he's sipping his...
I'm going to get some cheeks.
Paint power shit.
I'm going to get some cheeks.
I'm going to get some cheeks.
Yeah, yeah.
Yo, Sugar Dooger, we need them.
Yeah, Mace looking the biggie.
I don't really know puffers. Mace took me to Biggie.
I don't really know puffers.
Like, Mace know Puff.
So I appreciate what Mace said.
And of course, that's my brother.
So if he felt that way, then he felt that way.
I can't really tell you how Puff moves or anything like that.
Mace may know better than me, because he was trying to puff.
I wasn't.
But my show does come on at 8 AM.
There you go.
There you go.
It is what it is.
Y'all make sure y'all check it out.
And y'all might get some more information.
And that should be the end.
This should be the end.
But she kept going.
I don't know, I never was signed to him.
Couldn't get away with this stuff
if there weren't a lot of people protecting him.
Do you think that's the case?
Hey girl.
Who the talent agent for this joint?
Like, you know, I'm watching with Diddy New and all this.
I didn't know this was a Diddy joint.
Yo, who booked this joint?
Hi, Cameron.
Cameron.
You heard her.
Thanks for joining us.
That was my funniest part of it.
Cameron.
That lady.
That lady. You know, Cameron, he could have. That lady said he could have. He could have went there. Cameron. Thank you, bye. What'd she say? And still he ain't sweated. That lady, that lady, I don't know. Like, if you don't care, he couldn't, he couldn't.
That lady said, he couldn't win that.
He couldn't win that.
Cameron, thanks.
She kept asking the same question over and over again.
Like, that's right.
You're not coming up here giving me what I want you
to give me, so I'm gonna make you do it.
No, you're not.
But for me, that speaks to how, how.
I never heard all the parts.
Can I finish what I'm saying?
That, I think that speaks to how,
I'm trying to find a word, you wouldn't even help me
if you didn't want me to get on my shit.
It speaks to how fish out of water CNN was even with
what to report after they published the fucking P puff video. That's what I'm saying.
Like it's clear that they was looking to have some follow-up conversation. Yes.
It's clear that they did absolutely zero research on how Cam interviews go when he's in that moment
or how he would respond to this persistent just beat down. And I don't put this on Cam. I don't.
I put this on like he said he started. I put this on, like he said,
he started talking to the talent agency, the talent,
hey yo, who put me up here for this?
It wasn't him having that conversation,
y'all I'm coming up here to discuss Puff.
They had an agenda, he peeped it in real time
and all right, I'm getting the fuck out of here.
And I'm gonna promote while I'm here.
So if y'all feel the way about how Cam looked,
I'm not saying that you right or wrong,
but I'm saying CNN had
a lot to do with that. Like y'all are responsible for who y'all put on camera and what they
say y'all supposed to bet.
And if y'all know Cam, he did a good job with this because he could have-
He still answered and y'all playing with me behind the scenes so I'm gonna get on camera
and play with y'all in front of y'all face pause. Like yeah, that's literally what this
was. I'm not about to fall into the trap and if y'all really front of y'all face, pause. Like yeah, that's literally what this was. I'm not about to fall into the trap.
And if y'all really wanted the real conversation,
you could have had it with Mace, my co-co's.
Mace wasn't helping.
Cameron.
Cameron.
Cameron.
Thank you.
Cameron.
That lady was sick of him.
She still held it down too though.
She, you know.
She did.
They both held it down for what they was doing.
She did.
It's you had some funny shit, some funny shit about some shit that I didn't hear but that was funny with a guy
to die
the tattoo
It's not funny but um yes it is
A gentleman had the word I I mean the letters D-N-R,
literally tattooed on his chest, D dot N dot R dot.
So he had, I think, a heart attack
or he had some ailment where he literally died.
The EMT people came out and saved his life.
For those that don't know what DNR stands for,
do not recess.
DNR is them niggas that had that they had that hit in the 90s.
Sweet Chalupa. This is for my homie. DRS nigga. See you when you get there. Wow wow.
Shit. That's not dumb? What their name was? DRS. Dirty White Scoundrels. Wait, DRS. Look at me right here with this.
Hold up, man.
That's not done, wait.
This song's dedicated.
Nah, come on.
Yo, this guy's like.
That is DNS.
Remember the video?
Hell yeah, I remember the video.
They put the gloves on my man in the car.
Come on, dog.
Yo, what year is this?
92 or something?
This song's dedicated.
Yo, we old as hell.
We only got a few years left.
Yo, come on. I don't even think the kids ever heard this hell. We only got a few years left. Yo, come on.
I don't even think the kids ever heard this song.
Why'd you have to go
Ghetto ass video. Look at this shit.
Mel, you heard this song?
No.
You never heard this song?
No, I've never heard this song.
What?
It didn't make it past the SIP.
It didn't hit Canada?
Yeah, it didn't hit Canada.
This is just for fucking black people in poverty.
This is the ghetto end of the road.
Yeah.
I'm telling you.
Let me hear it. These niggas couldn't sing at all.
Let's see these niggas.
Imani should have popped off.
You got to get some second verse playing with this man Ad Libin off.
Yo, you all right?
I'm just trying to get to the hook and then I'm turning this off talking information. You got to get some second verse, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it, terrible. But the hook is fire. Here we go. Here we go.
This is for my homies.
This is for my homies.
Wow, wow.
See, I hit that.
And that gangsta lean.
That's for gangsta lean.
Oh my god.
Yo, play this shit at my funeral please yo
Play this shit
If they do I'ma go up there and suck a purse
than they're going to ask
I'm telling you I love the manny too much
for y'all to let this shit rock
Yo y'all have it go look at the video please
You gotta see the video with it
I need niggas to laugh at my funeral
play this shit
This is hilarious
Wait so what happened to the dude with the Oh sorry Video with it. I need niggas to laugh at my freedom play this shit
Sorry, so that they resuscitate homeboy
It cost shit ton of money. So he sued him. Oh, it was the court and told the judge
Yo, I had DNR written on my chest. I can't afford the hospital bills that associated with them resuscitated me So he sued him I, I think, for like 40K. Nice, you got it?
No!
No!
What the fuck are you talking about?
He fucked up in the briefing.
He ruined the story, man.
The judge is like, yo, Ferb, the EMT dude
was a young black dude too.
He said, yo, DNR, I didn't know what that meant.
I thought it was a gang or something.
That's my resuscitation thing.
The judge is like, sir.
Oh, nothing like fucking EMT that stereotypes.
Word, a fire. And an EMT that stereotypes. Word.
A fire.
And an EMT that doesn't know what DNR stands for.
Well, he probably knew, but...
Written on your chest.
Written on your chest.
Yeah, that can be anything.
So what happens if he doesn't do it, and then now the family says you didn't do your job,
and now the family decides to sue?
The judge told them basically they swore oath when they became EMTs to rescue people and
save people, and that's what he did. I can't grant you.
But you're not saving me if I don't want to live.
Put that in legal writing.
Do the science.
That's like my man Frank from, shame with you,
but Frank had it spelled out.
You should have spelled it out, big dog.
Should have told him fully, dude, not.
I don't know acronyms.
Listen. Yeah, I don't know what that means.
Speaking of people spelling shit out,
somebody explain to me what Terrence Howard was saying.
Oh, bitch, take it away.
He ain't got enough letters.
Nah, it's you.
I tried, I tried.
This is right here.
It's not enough letters.
No, no, not enough.
Fuck that.
Y'all are worldly and good spoken.
What's it called?
I thought you were the World Red.
Yeah, no, I am.
But he on another fucking level.
I don't know what to do.
And you in the school for math.
There we go.
For math.
For math. That we go. Poor math.
Poor math.
That's your shit.
You're an idiot, yo.
Nah, he was on some other shit.
Break it down.
Come on.
He remembers being born.
Vax.
Terrence Howard.
Terrence Howard.
Me too.
He remembers being in there.
And then remembers coming out.
And then he took a nap.
Or he woke up again.
Y'all playing around.
If any of y'all can make some sense of what he was saying, I do want somebody to tell
me.
There's no sense to make of it.
That nigga just talking.
I don't understand it.
Or maybe it does.
Yeah, I'm with ICE.
It's a different level.
It might be there.
It might be there.
Like some of the shit does have validity.
Like, dog, Terrence Howard got 90 something patents.
You know what I want to see?
Real patents in the patent house based on some of this mathematical shit that really
Yes, and like all of the big companies
No, we don't know we don't get it in us got it. What I want to see is
We build the grass and can and and my man Terrence Howard with a blunt
Pass that around and just put a camera up.
All of these things, we've been misled
just because we've been fooled by our senses.
Our eyes see.05% of the entire electromagnetic wave.
We're blind cosmically.
We judge everything by what we see.
And they've done that with science for so many years you look
at equals MC squared that talks about an expansion it does not show how it's
divided you've never breathed in twice without breathing out you breathe in
and you breathe out you chart and you discharge so how is it that the breathing in they're
acting as if the universe is just expanding out,
expanding out, breathing out, breathing out,
and it's gonna dissipate out,
and they never include the contractive side of it
breathing in, because they were misled by Newton,
who said everything moves in a straight line
unless affected by something else.
And we know that not to be true.
But they built the entire two dimensional plane,
the Euclidean space
that we live on that we work on.
Yeah I just want to know is the earth flat?
Tell me that.
Don't ask that question.
That's what I want to hear from him.
Don't do it.
That's what I want to hear from him.
Alright.
Everything else I want to hear what the fuck you talking about.
Walk away from that question.
I think he touched on that briefly there somewhere but I can't remember what he said.
There's a lot.
Well he took the periodic table and broke it down and said it was like a sphere instead of,
and drew the map.
I mean, that shit makes sense.
Like, yeah.
But I don't know.
I don't know.
Me either.
I failed chemistry, twice.
Maybe it is a circle.
Same tone as carbon.
What do you mean by tone?
Same tone, same key of E.
Same key of E.
Y'all music guys, key of E.
The next one would be like 81 hertz.
You go to silicon, it would double up
and would be 162 hertz.
You'll go to co-hawk and it'll be 324 hertz.
It's take the angles of incidence.
I don't think E is 45, I think it's 40.
You know, they're colored.
You can turn color back to sound based upon,
it's the same
It's just twice as long or much longer
So all you have to do is keep dividing light
By two you keep dividing light by two and you'll ultimately get back to the audible sound of it
Because there was a relationship between light and color sound and tone matter and shape Walter Russell's periodic table that he put together. Now you will compare that to Mendeleev's periodic table.
That's true.
And you'll see something completely different.
Totally different.
It's unwind.
Night and day.
And you see there's a relationship that hydrogen.
So you had figured this out at a young age?
I had already seen this.
This was all inside of that palace.
I had access to it. And knew the really saw this in dreams
I saw it as a circle everything was a full circle laid out and this wasn't even the tip of the ice
Oh, no, no at all. It's rabbit hole with me
The first rap, you know, it's so tight
That's true how I yo he's either the smartest person I've ever heard speak in my life, or he did way too much acid.
Or I'm the dumbest person.
Or both.
Or both, yeah, or both.
Acid will bring you here.
There's options to it.
Really?
If you would pull up your World of Windows patent,
I think it's one of the first patents up there.
I want you to see where your ARVR world came from.
And look at the-
This was interesting.
Yeah, he bodied this.
That has sighted, didn't just sighted,
they built their entire AR VR world
off of my world of Windows patent.
Can you pull that up, Jamie?
Pull it right up.
That's why I love roll, they can pull it right up.
Let's see it.
Center, Terrence, Deshaun, Howard.
Worldwide application, let's just read the abstract
just so they'll know.
System and method for merging virtual reality and reality.
The scroll on sockets here.
To provide an enhanced sensory experience.
A system and method of merging virtual reality sensory detail from a remote site into a room
environment at a local site.
I thought ice came up with that shit.
You just look, you just look in the mirror, go back to the office.
He smoked Vistra, boy.
He did. He smoked Vistra. You should be a good inventor. Go back to the office and let me see. You're gonna be a good
good man.
You did.
He smoked Vistra.
Worldwide patent 2010, it was abandoned.
Now go to Cited by, you see that 131?
And look at all the companies.
And if you look at the patent, these companies have all earned, they have multi-billion dollar
companies they've built off of my patent.
Just roll through.
Sony, Microsoft, Amazon.
Hewlett Packard.
Yeah. Keep going, keep going, keep going. Keep through. Sony, Microsoft, Amazon.
Hewlett Packard.
Yeah.
Keep going, keep going, keep going.
IBM, and it's still making money.
This patent has earned over $7 trillion.
And you didn't get a piece.
And I haven't gotten a penny of it.
When they did all of the Black Lives Matter,
it's like Raytheon Company.
And IBM, IBM, if you, crazy.
There's, and it still has another nine years.
Another eight.
Listen, the fire part in that, though, you cut it.
And he was like, they're using the patent,
they don't even understand it.
He was like, it's like using a shotgun as a bat.
Like, you got it, and you don't even know how to use it.
It's his patent, so obviously the nigga would know.
So he smoked that.
So how have these companies avoided paying him?
What you think?
If he had it.
Big business gonna do what big business do.
Well, I mean, like it was a patent and it was registered,
so it's just like how do they kinda like, you know,
skirt that?
Above my pay grade.
Yeah, basically.
Legit question, but okay.
Yeah, I'm just saying, big business gonna do
what big business does.
That nigga a genius, man.
He could be.
Is your question how are people able to steal patents?
Or work around it?
Well yeah, especially if it's registered.
He's saying that he didn't make a dime off of his patent.
And all these companies have created software and programs based off of his patent and all these companies have created software and programs based off of his patent. I just don't know how they were able to get
around using his patent and not paying him for it. I just, I don't know. Again, above my
break, I don't know. Tesla had mad patents damn near a hundred years ago.
Niggas stole all our shit.
Super interesting. I have a million different clips here to play.
I don't want to play all of these clips because they're all like otherworldly.
Yeah, it is.
And I truly don't understand anything that he's saying.
Same.
But this definitely was- It's a definite.
The most interesting interview I've seen in a long time,
even without me knowing what the hell they're talking about.
And I think Rogan gave him a space to really,
you know what I'm saying, without just,
oh, you sound crazy, nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I think he opened up the door for him
to express himself in a manner
that wasn't disrespectful or dismissive.
He talked about so much shit.
He was saying that there was a planet
between Mars and Jupiter where the Asteroid Belt is now.
And he was like, if you take all of that shit
and compile it together, it will be about the mass
of an actual planet.
He speaks about like the shit that he touched on, Pauls.
It do make like.
Like damn.
Makes sense.
All motions expressed in waves,
all waves are expressed in curves.
It always makes fun.
So because of the concept of gravity, because of the concept of this event horizon, this
super point of gravity, this infinite point that light can't even escape, that this exists
because of gravity.
And their math. Remember, they have a thing called zero. They go from one to zero to negative
one. There is no zero to even think zero.
So do you think that zero is a concept that came along with currency?
It should be attached to currency in that regard because in physics there is it's either nothing remains still there's nothing still in the universe
There's nothing that doesn't have motion because everything is connected
Still everything that's connected to it has to be still there can never be one thing still
So as electricity tries to get to its balanced state right when it gets there magnetism takes over it pushes over
So there's this pendulum and as soon as it gets to this state,
it bounces off that other noble gas,
and it makes its way all the way back over here,
and it's about to have equilibrium,
and then it gets pulled back into the other direction.
And that's the breathing in and breathing out,
and the pendulum effect that we've all observed
in natural phenomena in the universe.
Yo, dog, I haven't, dog, I can't hear you.
I haven't figured out a Rubik's Cube.
Yeah.
Like, there's so much that I have to figure out
before I get to that.
But everything he's saying, when you hear it, it's like, it almost sounds simple.
It's like, damn, that makes a lot of sense.
How the fuck do we get a zero?
When you hear him break that down, it does make sense.
But you gotta have a zero for the simplicity of things.
You get what I'm saying? It's like time.
Time is a creation.
That's all he's saying. It's just made up.
The dates are a creation. Like just to make our That's all he's saying. It's just made up. The dates are a creation. Just to make our world simpler,
you need to create these things.
It's no such thing as time.
Hey, Corey, what else is made up?
It's no such thing as birthdays.
You get what I'm saying?
But to keep a recollection of things,
you got to have.
Salutes.
I don't have that much time.
Nah, this shit.
Should've seen it.
It's a different level. Personally, I going to watch this a couple more times.
It's a different level of thinking.
I'm going to do like you did, break it down.
30 minutes in increments.
I'm going to watch this shit and watch this one flow.
I feel like I got some support in here.
I had no idea that Terrence Howard was a genius.
Yeah, he's a genius.
You've never seen him get interviewed before?
No. Yes.
And in those interviews, I heard him say
how he got bamboozled out of his heart out here
for a pimp soundtrack shit where they made him rap the song
but then they owned the character
so then he was just ass out.
So when I hear those stories, I don't typically think
this is a genius, but I'm off in that you could be a genius in one area and
Not have it all together in another area
So yeah, I just never thought that that's what I've heard from interviews even him being shorted in business
You know that stack should they got completely fucked
You gotta watch it, but he's he's um
He said a bunch of shit and again they dismiss him
You know I'm saying it's easy to dismiss somebody when they start talking
that next level shit,
because most of us can't identify and relate to it.
It's easy also to dismiss them when you're an actor,
who they just feel you're just an actor.
And I don't think that's fair,
because even if some of the shit he's saying
is not accurate scientifically,
he's obviously doing the work
to come up with these theories and ideas.
So to shit on him and call him an idiot.
Even if he's wrong, he's brilliant.
Yeah, exactly.
Even if none of it makes sense mathematically or whatever, he's doing the work.
Like a conversation Joe, me and you had before, that's what science is.
Yeah, questioning, coming up with your own hypothesis.
Okay, now we think this is it.
Well, now somebody else questions that and disproves it and says no, it's really this. Now somebody else, like it's just a constant back and forth of, all right, we got it. No, we don't.
Disproving theory.
Yeah, it's true.
Yeah, him and Neil deGrasse, Tyson on some weed.
I would like to see them sit down though.
I would like to see them sit down.
That would be amazing.
That would be absolutely fire and all I could think about was Neil deGrasse when he was
talking.
Same.
I'd love to see it.
Hopefully Terrence Howard does more interviews in this vein.
Yeah.
Because I'd like to hear more of this shit.
I don't know nothing about what he's talking about.
And the rest of you motherfuckers, not motherfuckers, but the rest of y'all that can have that conversation,
I want to see from y'all too.
Yo, that's why Joe Rogan is so dope.
It is.
That nigga, he's tapped in with knowing when to pull that type of interview together
and then just go sit with a nigga
and just sit with Joey Diaz or something
and just crack jokes with it.
That shit is fire.
That's what I'm-
You think he saw the new Planet Apes?
No.
Nevermind.
Don't do that.
Forget it then.
I think so.
I saw it.
Don't start please.
E don't start him.
Don't start him.
Let it go E. Don't start him. E don't start him. Don't start him. Let it go E.
Don't start him.
What the hell's going on there?
What the hell's going on?
Shout out to Terrence Howard and Joe Rogan.
Yo E, tell me about Velma man.
It's the new season.
Oh man.
So there's a young lady on Instagram
who does a lot of role play things.
Only fans?
Only fans too but I see it.
Another 69 guys?
Word.
You are the freaky of the freaky, y'all.
Listen, man, leave me alone.
So she does a lot of role play content online.
She dresses up as like Chung Lee.
But a lot of her content has been Velma based.
So you reached out to her?
And she got really popular.
She got really, really popular.
You follow her, right?
Yeah, I follow.
And the people who own the copyright have stopped her from going ahead.
No!
Yeah, they no longer want, it's a copyright infringement.
We no longer want you building your brand, dressing up as Velma.
That's not fair to you.
Yeah, that's fucked up.
Capcom makes a night out of you.
What you jerking off to now?
God.
69 Goddess.
Oh shit.
Oh.
Ah.
You was expecting that.
Who's the D.S. nigga?
Yeah, I'm disappointed.
It's a sad day in our cosplay history.
Yeah, stop.
What's gonna happen to other people?
What you mean? Stop making the character look all sexual, girl. Sit your ass's gonna happen to other people? What you mean?
Stop making the character look all sexual, girl.
Sit your ass down, come over here.
What do you mean?
She look good, I saw her too.
They been doing that since the Betty Boop days.
That's been a thing.
Jessica Rabbit.
True.
They take all these little made out.
She was getting there, we got it pocket watch.
She was getting to what?
She made a lot of money off that shit, nigga.
I found myself going to her OnlyFans, nigga.
Just to see if she was into some other shit.
What other shit would you want?
I don't know.
What stuff?
Some other shit.
You got any
screenshots? Can I see?
Yes, I do. That's why I was pulling up.
You made money back in the day?
What? Is this like a 10 minute Velma Brit?
What's happening right now?
I just want to see the picture.
She just wants to see the picture.
Oh, you're doing some horny shit at work.
Yo, wow.
You got a Velma crush too?
Totally understand.
Do I have a Velma crush?
No, but you guys said I came in here looking for Velma,
looking like Velma one day.
No, I never said that.
Wait, wait, what?
Who said what?
Yeah, you did.
Yeah, you fucking did.
Yeah, you all fucking did.
And you accused me of dressing up like that. We said mom. You all fucking did. And you accused me of dressing up like that.
You accused me of dressing up like that for him.
Because he got a Velma cake.
It was the day she had the little mustard stockings on.
I don't remember that day.
Bullshit.
You showed me to say you looked like her mother.
She looks cute.
No, she bad.
You look...
Yeah, that's the horny-ass folks, boys.
Sad day. I'm good. Sad day. You got my support, lady. I got she bad. You look. But yeah, that's the horny ass folks, boy. It's a sad day.
I'm good.
Sad day.
I'm sorry.
You got my support, lady.
I got a question for the room.
Sure.
Yeah.
Can everyone, hey, Nat, can everyone tell me
what their most controversial opinion is?
Mm.
You must have seen that thing going around
with people's accent.
That's a great question.
I was on one page and seeing somebody say that shit.
And I had a blast with those opinions.
I was like, man, this is such a great question.
Just overall or music?
I'll give you a...
Now listen, I'm going to play this shit
so you can hear examples.
OK.
They go crazy.
This is not a reflection over anything
that Joe Budden thinks, but it was funny.
Controversial opinion. Midge is actually the normal people. We the freaks. over anything that Joe Budden thinks, but it was funny.
Controversial opinion.
Midge is actually the normal people, we the freaks.
What's the most controversial opinion?
Turkey bacon, it's not real bacon.
There's no part of a turkey that has bacon on it.
What's your most controversial opinion?
Suge Knight is a good guy
in the whole West Coast, East Coast beef map.
You thought it was Diddy, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It's Suge Knight.
You were just being excited, you were trying to phone him. trying to fold your most controversial pain stupid people is smarter than dumb people because the stupid people guys figure it out and
The small people is trying to overcomplicate
Same sex it's not the best sex
Whatever you say what's your most controversial opinion?
The bathroom is not for brushing your teeth.
That is the doo doo room.
Brush your teeth in the kitchen like a civilized f***ing dog.
Did he say this?
Not innocent of all this s*** he's done but like what he's being charged for is s***.
No he didn't.
No he didn't.
What's your most controversial opinion?
Who said that?
Who said that?
Who said that?
Who said that?
Who said that?
Who said that?
Who said that?
Who said that?
Who said that?
Who said that?
Who said that? Who said that? Who said that? Who said that? Who said that? He's innocent. Not innocent of all this s*** he's done, but like what he's being charged for,
that s***.
No, he didn't.
No, he didn't.
What's your most controversial opinion?
Uh, Wu-Tang.
Wu-Tang?
What's your most controversial opinion?
If every pedophile's been molested,
we should arrest everybody that's been molested
to cut off the supply chain of pedophiles.
What's your most controversial opinion?
I think that we should only tip bartenders
if they make cocktails.
They serve you a beer or a shot, shouldn't dip what's your most controversial thing?
Suicide is the strangest way at least is her you let another man kill you that's death game
Are you guys your last breath around the man?
How you have your best breath around another man oh
My god That's breath around another man. Oh my God.
So is anyone here ready to share their most controversial opinion that will not get the broadcast canceled and leave me unemployed?
I've shared mine on here. What's that?
I've shared mine too before. That's why.
I've shared a couple of mine. My Lauryn Hill shit is controversial. My Tupac shit is controversial.
My controversial opinion is how racism started.
White people seen us at the kickback.
We was jumping around, had hoes, chicken, seasonings,
and then they did what white people do.
Jacket.
And then my other one is white, if, if, if, if,
do I wanna say this?
Go ahead.
If we originate from apes and monkeys,
I think white people originate from lizards.
I think that old school show V was really a thing.
Oh, right.
Remember that show?
Yeah, I think that's a thing.
That shit was terrifying.
I think white people was somewhere.
I think they sat in the sun too long, started peeling, had some green scales underneath,
and then took our seasonings as alligators and crocodiles.
But whatever.
Anybody else?
Oh man.
Not all white, but the lizard white.
It's political, but I think-
They're scrolls.
I think Biden is more evil than Trump.
Ooh.
I ain't saying it's going to be great, but I mean, that's what I got.
Seven on the Richter skin.
That's Terrence Howard right there.
Terrence Howard.
That's Torrance.
When Howard get on that terrace, get to thinking. Nah, I feel you on that. Ooh, I didn't even think. Oh, man. Anybody else? Mel?
I don't have anything controversial while I'm in my lifetime deal.
9-11 was an inside job.
Get out.
Get out right now.
Call your little psychiatrist, Frank.
Nobody else?
It's a little bit of a different thing.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. Get out. Get out right now. Call your little, call your little psychiatrist friend.
Nobody else?
Inside, inside by who though?
My brain not working.
Inside by who?
Our government.
All right.
All right, listen, that was a great segment.
Great segment, man, man, come on.
That's tough.
That's tough.
You got one?
I can't.
Oh, please, please, please, please.
Move it right along, move it, please. Move it right along.
Move it right along.
Move it right along.
Anything else that we do need to get to?
Anything else super important?
23andMe is selling our DNA.
Not ours.
For $20 million.
To who?
The whole punk ass 20 mil, though.
Well, the people who did it, your DNA will be sold.
But who are they selling it to?
Shit. Take our government.
The lizard people.
You better ask Terrence Howard.
Yeah?
Ask Terrence Howard, nigga.
Well, I mean, did somebody read an article?
Yes.
Does it say who's buying?
The buyer.
And how big is the database?
Look at you ready to sell some shit.
Shut up.
You, yo.
So want me some?
Come around, man. hold up, what happened?
I know you're not motherfucking talking.
Give me the details.
For money?
That cameo, I used to talk about cameo, man,
was like who? Wait, what happened?
Leave her alone.
Come on now, come on now.
She said not too much on herself.
Girl, that don't work, that don't work.
If you say that, we go hard. Not too much on her, come on. I'm not selling my fucking I'm just
see your shoes the bottom looking good Come on, bro. I was looking at their shit. Their shit is not scraped at all. No brain, no. No pressure.
That shit like you washed their shit before you came in.
Mel showed up very differently today to address the DV.
Oh, she did.
She did.
She said I'm like a lawyer.
Address the DV mail.
She came in like a consultant.
She came in like a lawyer.
I put in cases on all you niggas.
She came in like a DA.
We off that puff shit, but we will allow for final words
from the Blazer.
We will. Blazer? Clear out. Blazer, what do you think? We off that puff shit, but we will allow for final words from the blazer
What else what, what else, what else, what else is there? That 23andMe shit is fake, by the way. It's fake?
It's fake.
Way to go.
Genius Potter right there.
Whose story is that?
Who's story?
Oh, it's your story.
I can tell you about conspiracy, man.
Stop with the conspiracy, man.
Just because you don't want to find out that you have white, that doesn't mean anything.
Don't shoot everybody out.
You don't want to find out.
You white, nigga.
You have white.
Ain't two black people slaved just to see you?
You have white.
You have white.
You have white.
You have white. You have white. You have't mean anything. Don't shoot everybody out.
You don't want to find out.
You white, nigga.
You half white.
Ain't two black people slaves?
You're slave masters.
Got in it early and later.
If you're not half white, you understand them.
You speak white.
You may not be half white.
You speak, you speak.
You're speaking white.
You're speaking.
You're speaking.
You're speaking.
Now he really black.
He don't play that much.
I'm serious, man.
Cool, cool.
You're speaking.
You're speaking. You're speaking. You're speaking. You're speaking. You're speaking. This is gonna frighten me. You're speaking. You're speaking. You're underdicking them niggas. You're speaking.
Look at that.
Now he really black, he don't play that picture.
I'm serious man, cool, cool, kachoo.
Cause he don't play with the culture.
That nigga serious, you saw that nigga white?
He saw 30 of you with his eyes.
All right watch, I'm gonna get you.
I wonder why your shit be in check.
I see, I see the looks you be giving.
Let me see. Okay, I got you.
Shut your dumb ass up.
He said you turned Muslim once you did.
You go, God stop allowing him real quick.
That nigga don't want, he won't pimp not one butterfly.
He won't pimp one.
Don't do it.
That fucked me up.
That was Terrence Howard right there.
Hey, that was the hip hop version of God is Good.
Amen.
All the time.
Amen.
All the time.
Amen, girl.
All the time.
Amen.
Nah, dead ass he is.
Dead ass he is.
We're Caribbean so we know the different versions.
Hey, yeah.
That's, I knew it was C.
God is Good, God is good.
All the time.
All right, final words from your blazer.
None?
All right.
Y'all know I love a good list.
Fuck, we're gonna fight.
You, Ellie, and B. Dot.
Well, I don't make them, though.
Dab radar.
I just like to react.
Dab radar.
Let's go dab radar, get the shit off.
Dab radar. Let's go that radar. Get your shit off. That radar.
So Apple Music is doing a list of the 100 greatest albums of all time.
And the way they released the numbers was every day they dropped 10.
Okay.
You know, they went from 100 to 91.
Then 90, you know, like that.
Well, we the math guys.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, we're not.
We're not the math.
Terrence Howard is the math.
We ain't no shit about Terrence Howard was talking.
So I just ran it through the list.
I'm gonna give you all a couple
like the hip hop R&B albums that made the list.
At 98 was Astroworld.
At 95 was Confessions.
Oh, I'm done with this list.
No, it was 96.
I'm finished with this.
Damn.
This is my first time hearing this list
and I'm done with it, but go ahead.
Oh yeah, they lost him in the first 10.
At 93 was a seat at the table.
92 was flower boy, Tyler the Creator.
Oh, I'm done.
86, Mary J. Blige, My Life.
Oh, I'm finished here.
84, Doggie Style.
Damn, that's a lot.
I'm done.
82, Get Richard, Die Tryin'.
What?
80, Marshall Mathis, LP.
Oh man, fuck these niggas. Fuck these niggas.
75 Missy Super Duper Fly. 72 Scissor SOS. 70 Straight Outta Compton. 65 3 Feet High
and Rising. 64 Badawism. 62 All All Eyes on Me. 61, Love Deluxe, shawty.
57, D'Angelo Voodoo.
55, Anti.
Wait, Voodoo is better than Love Deluxe?
Voodoo is better than Confessions.
According to them, yes.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Go ahead, go ahead.
And this is Rolling Stones?
No, this is Apple Music.
I never ate apples. That's not really what we're having. Honey crisp, none of them. Golden delicious. And this is Rolling Stone
55 Rihanna anti
51 Prince sign of the times
47 take care
42 Janet control
41 a criminal this is almost criminal to continue to read. Yeah. I'm almost there. There's only a couple more.
39 is Illmatic.
37 is Into the Wutang.
36 is Beyonce's self-titled album.
34, It Takes a Nation of Millions.
32, Ready to Die.
29, The Low in Theory.
26, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.
19, The Chronic.
This whole list is their dark beautiful twisted fantasy.
It is.
17, Marvin Gaye, What's Going On.
How is that not in the top 10?
Adele, 21, came in at 15.
Get Adele out of these fucking lists.
I don't care about Rich Paul right now.
Blueprint came in at 13.
And well, the top 10 will be out tomorrow.
Miles Davis, Kind of Blue is like 20 something.
25.
That is crazy to me.
Where was the Stevie Wonder album, the one?
They have to be in the top 10.
Songs in the Minor, right?
Has to be in the top 10.
Or Intervisions.
Shit, he got three.
He got three.
That's going to be a top five album.
Got to be a top five.
Don't be surprised.
Off the Wall, Thriller, One of Them, or Bad
has to be a top three album.
No, they ain't have no Michael Jackson albums. Well I don't know if they only doing one per person or
something because I didn't see duplicates from people either. Like I'm
just saying going through the whole list. I went through from from 100 down so
they might just pick one album per artist. In terms of... That's the case, Sign of the
Times can't be it for Prince. Right.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, uh, Prince and Mike is, is egregious.
I'm not going to say Steve because I expect him to be there
in the top five, maybe in the top three.
It sounds like they're going to put to Pimpa Butterfly.
Yeah. One, two, or three.
I heard nothing about Good Kid Mad City, right?
I haven't seen that one.
One of them too is going to be good.
Good Kid Mad City is the top 10 album ever made.
Same to me. In hip hop. But this album is the top ten album ever made in hip hop.
Same to me.
In hip hop.
It's the top ten album ever made.
But this album, this is not just for hip hop.
No, this is for all genres.
I'll try to consider that because there's a lot of-
El Matic was 39.
Try to consider that because there's a lot of albums on the other side that people, you
know, we not listening to like that, but the rest of the world-
I think this list is disrespectful to a lot of R&B actually I agree there's a lot of
phenomenal R&B albums Marvin Gaye what's going on being was it 17 it should be a
top 10 album that tells you that they disrespect the rest of R&B for sure yeah
that's not you I don't know if I really consider that R&B but still no as a
work of soul soul soul to me but Mike. That's R&B.
I ain't had no Madonna album.
There's a Madonna album in there, but it's up high.
Taylor Swift had an album?
Taylor Swift, of course she did.
You'll never beat her, I guess.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Whitney.
Bunch of Beatles, I'm sure, are gonna be in the top 10.
Whitney had an album?
I didn't see Whitney.
They gonna throw a bomb, Dylan Joy in there.
For sure.
Fleetwood Mac is gonna be somewhere higher.
Taylor Swift's 1989 was number 18.
Where was Fleetwood Mac?
Rumors is the one.
11. Yeah.
Rumors.
Okay.
That's number 11.
Yeah, he said that was 11.
I know Elliott put out a list of the top 100 diss records.
That was an interesting list.
I know Elliott got his new gig.
Congratulations, Elliott. So there'll be a lot of lists to come from from that side
I made that list at number 69 with Big Shot. That was I I didn't agree with
That's not your best at all at all at all
But but hey, I mean I'm grateful that he considered or they considered to even put me on a list some really amazing
Distracts on there and to name a hundred of
Them yeah
It's no small feet um yeah, I don't want to hear about the best albums from Apple. What was number one? Oh
I don't know hit him hit him up hit him up was number one
Thing the top five was hit him up back to back fucking what's the ice cube joint?
No, not like Us was pretty high.
Not Like Us was I think top six, something like that.
And I'm not mad at that.
I'm not mad at that at all, as far as distracts.
That sure impacted.
Impact, all of that.
Yeah, what the fuck you want me to say?
Anything else on list?
Yes, another one.
Spotify has the top 100 hip hop songs of the streaming era.
So they- The last 10 years. the top 100 hip hop songs of the streaming era.
The last 10 years.
Yeah, so they're saying from January 1st, 2015 to now.
Okay.
I'm gonna just give you the top 20 real quick.
Cardi B and Meg, WAP is 20.
19, French Montana and Swae Lee, Unforgettable.
18, Unforgettable.
Unforgettable.
What's Unforgettable?
I'm sorry, excuse me, Unforgettable. Unfor unforgettable? Sorry, excuse me, unforgettable.
My bad, excuse me.
18, Lil Baby, 42, Doug, We Paid.
17, Kodak Black, No Flockin'.
16, Kendrick Lamar, Humble.
15, Kanye West, Father, Stretch My Hands, Part 1.
Drake Dis from Kendrick, but go ahead.
14, Roddy Rich, Da Box.
13, Travis Scott, Kendrick Kendrick, but go ahead. 14, Roddy Rich, Da Box.
13, Travis Scott, Kendrick Lamar, Goosebumps.
12, Future Mask Off.
11, Triple X, Jocelyn Flores.
Interesting.
10, Juice WRLD, Lucid Dreams.
Nine, Pop Smoke, Dior.
Eight, Sheck West, Mobamba.
Seven, Travis Scott, Sicko Mode.
Six, Migos and Uzi, Bad and Bougie.
Five is on record-ish, March Madness.
Four is Uzi, XO, Toy Life.
Don't share no record with no man again.
Nah, that's all, that's negative.
Yeah, that's our song.
That's our shit.
I know, but when you say it, it's not like.
Nah, but I ain't mean it like that, though.
Thank God. It's our shit. That's our shit. I know, but when you say it, it's like. Nah, but I ain't mean it like that, though. Thank God.
It's your world.
Three is Drake's God, Drake, God's Plan.
Okay.
Two is Cardi, Bodak Yellow,
and number one is Kendrick Lamar, Alright.
Alright.
That is the biggest.
Alright.
Alright should be number one on all the lists.
It really, it really, and it has nothing to do with,
nothing recent, All Right is that song.
Like that song is like a generational,
once in a lifetime.
It'll play forever.
100%.
You're gonna hear it at the barbecue,
you're gonna hear it at the club.
They started calling that shit the new,
the new, new black national anthem.
Yeah, but the abusers can't jam out to that one,
when it's on.
Like the abusers, sit down.
Don't y'all start, we gonna beat, no y'all not gonna be all right.
Y'all the problems.
And we need to-
They shouldn't jam out at all.
They should just stay home.
Sit down.
But-
And be humble, right?
Yeah.
Got two songs for him.
So y'all ready to rid the music world
of Rick James whole catalog?
In James Brown?
James Brown.
Yeah, exactly.
That's a tough one. Move on. Don't worry about it.
Let's give it, let's give it. Come on. Let's go. We don't have to have those conversations. Come on.
We want to get it. I wasn't born yet. We have to get rid of a lot. Hey, when he was beating bitches up, I wasn't born.
We would have to get rid of a lot. Did that count? That you wasn't born? Yeah. They doing it today.
Rick James is dead. I'm saying they're doing it today. These niggas wasn't born and they're going back
changing all kind of shit.
They canceling motherfuckers that died already.
They're doing that, that's exactly what's happening.
They're going back to shit that happened
before they were born and applying all the tests.
That's true, they knocked down Joe Paterno,
a little statue they put up there
and then built a little Allen.
It's different though, Rick James atone for his sins.
We can square up.
Rick James at his prison time.
Hey, somebody who loved Allen Arbis
should just go kidnap that statue from out of here.
Put it in your house.
Fuck his statue.
That should have looked dope in the vestibule.
In the bathroom.
Or you can use it as a little garden gnome.
Oh my god.
You gotta be in disrespect for the AI.
No, not a statue. The statue shouldn't be that small.
All of these statues is like that.
All of these statues.
It's the practice facility, so all the statues.
Yeah, they make them now.
He didn't practice either.
He didn't practice.
Yeah, so he only wanna be there.
He did practice, that story was misremembered.
Yeah, I know.
He did practice.
They tried to, Larry Brown tried to make him practice
after his man had died.
Larry Brown wasn't shit. He missed, he was like, yo, his man's had died. Larry Brown wasn't shit.
He missed, he was like, yo, we talking about a practice.
Larry Brown wasn't shit.
If my man died, I'm missing practice, nigga.
Yeah, I'd be glad I ain't missed a game.
Yeah, the fuck you talking about?
Yeah.
Hello?
I forgot it.
Anyway.
Thank you.
It was crazy.
Oh, man.
Mel got on to address the DV7s.
She got on to, she ready to.
Are you gonna be?
Are you gonna be? Are you gonna to be? Are you going to be?
Eddie, are you okay? Eddie, are you okay? Stop. Stop. You even hit back. You even struck back.
That's a DV song.
Thank you, money. Wait, smooth criminal is a domestic violence song?
Yes, are you listening to the words in the song?
No, they got me jamming.
He means like, he not talking about hit lyrics.
You got it, you got it.
Wait, wait, wait, no, no, tell me,
and then we can move on.
I didn't know this either.
Smooth criminal is a song about domestic violence?
Listen to the words.
Aniel, you okay, are you okay, Annie?
You, pull up the lyrics.
You ain't gonna be just saying bad things that you ask if someone's okay about it. E, E, stop, E. Do me a favor, pull it up. E, stop, you be, pull up the lyrics. Hold on. You ain't gonna be just saying bad things
and you ask if someone's okay about it.
E, E, E, stop, E.
Do me a favor, pull it up.
E, stop, man.
Pull it up.
Somebody pull up the lyrics.
As he came into the window, it was the sound of a crescendo.
He came into her apartment,
he left the blood stains on the carpet.
She ran underneath the table.
He could see she was unable, so she ran into the bedroom.
She was struck down.
It was her doom.
Annie, are you okay?
So, Annie, are you okay? So, Annie, are you okay?
Yeah, but he's not the nigga that's beating her.
We're singing from his shit.
He didn't beat up.
We're showing the question, Dewey.
No, wait, hold up.
He's not beating her.
Mike will not say, he not talking about himself.
He's talking about the, he's asking the police.
He's asking, Annie, are you okay for this nigga?
What's your problem?
We're talking over each other, please.
We can't hear you.
Are you talking, are you talking, who's talking right now?
You go ahead, Flip, but. He is not beating her, period. Mike is not beating her. Yeah you talking? Are you talking? Who's talking right now? You go ahead, Flip.
He is not beating her, period.
Mike is not beating her.
Yeah, but he's just just.
I'm saying from Mike's perspective.
But he still made a slap out of another nigga beating her.
He was being a, uh, he was.
I just said it.
And we was in the club.
We was in the club.
Doom doogadoo.
He was in the club leaning to him.
Yeah, he didn't lean.
Yeah.
So what was the front leaning about, nigga?
Escaping the hit?
Where was your blazer then? No. Sorry, my fault. Yo, why didn't lean. So what was the front lean about, nigga? Escaping the hit? Where was your blazer then?
Sorry, my fault.
Yo, why didn't your blazer put a stop to this?
The nigga lean.
It's not a fucking cape.
Yo, come on.
The nigga lean.
Yo, Mike was a piece of shit.
He made a song about DV and a song about the baby ain't his.
He was a little toxic.
I told y'all niggas, man. Stop fucking my nigga niggas. He was so confident in the baby not being his he made the cement light up as he walked out of the
trail. He was walking out. They brought him out of here. No, Mike was sick. And he showed the garbage can too. Mike was a gangster. Oh no he was. Mike was a
crip. Mike was playing with these niggas. He was a crip. Mike was a crip. Oh yeah, and he was a gang member.
And he had real crips in the
What You Make Me Feel video.
Go listen to Blue Gangsta, off of that.
And beat it.
Yeah.
And beat it.
And bad, actually.
Mike was a crip.
When he thought Prince was gonna come through
and play the lead gang member.
How you go from Pax and Prince?
Your butt is mine.
Nigga, you can't say that to Prince with his butt out.
Yo.
I mean, put your butt away, nigga.
If you were gonna say that, that wouldn't be the nigga to say it to.
Yo, man, you walking out with all that ass out, yo.
If you was in jail, what would you say?
I wouldn't be in jail, because I don't want to break the law.
And wouldn't no nigga say that to me if I tried to run him over with my motorcycle?
Yo, Prince never, you know, I think about the Prince and Michael shit.
Prince never try to reach out to Michael to do shit. There's always Mike reaching out to motorcycle. Yo Prince never, you know what I think about the Prince and Mike and shit, Prince never try to reach,
Prince never try to reach out to Mike or the dude shit,
it's always Mike reaching out to Prince.
On his dick, dick ride.
Yeah, Prince never try to say,
yo Mike come do this, Mike, he try to reach out to
We are the world.
You looking up here with some soccer shit,
I ain't even looking at you like that.
Mike is on some, you got competition with me
and I'm not really your competition.
Word.
Mm, okay, true.
You competing with me.
I'm here my nigga, I actually can help you get here
if you just, you know. Oh so Mike was trying to help him. Yeah, help you up here, it's what I'm up here, my nigga. I actually can help you get here if you just, you know.
Somebody was trying to help him.
Hey, hey.
I'll help you up here.
It's one up here on the mountain.
You seen the shows?
You seen what the shows look like?
You reached out to Prince too much times, my nigga.
You seen what the sales look like?
And Prince is not gonna assist though.
Listen, one of these people made songs
about a woman getting abused.
Oh my.
One of them saved their parent from the abuse
and put it in a movie.
We should have never let you.
Never let you bring that up.
What else happened in that movie? What else happened in the movie? What else happened in that movie? He also smacked the shit out of it in a movie. We should have never let you do that. We should have never let you do that. What else happened in that movie?
That's what you.
What else happened in the movie?
What else happened in that movie?
You also smacked this shit out of fucking Apollonia
in the movie.
What are you talking about?
Rest in peace to Prince.
What are you talking about?
This nigga is.
This nigga is.
This nigga is.
Whoa!
Yo!
See, see.
Yeah, see?
See, see?
Yo, man.
Stop! Everybody shut it. He's taking it out. He's the one see. Yeah, see? See? See?
Stop.
Everybody shut it.
He's taking it out.
It wasn't there.
Yo.
But Mel faces me crazy.
I forgot that part.
Y'all had to extend the D.B.
Yeah, nigga.
Uh-huh.
That was a movie.
You bought, that you bought up.
Anyway.
Hooty hoo.
Hooty hoo.
Got a real good sleeper for you guys today if we are done with all serious
matters, unserious matters, anything that we want to get off our heart, chest, soul,
and spirits.
We want to get predictions out about the finals, I mean the conference finals before it starts.
I was going to ask that.
Like what do we think?
Oh, Dallas, Boston in the final, Kyrie versus his old team is my prediction.
I don't think the Timberwolves or Ant Edwards can beat Dallas and Adam Silver and the refs
and the TV machine that will be happening while the finals is on.
I don't think nobody, they ain't putting the Timberwolves in the finals.
They're not putting Anthony Edwards up that much.
Same way they ain't putting the Pacers in the finals.
Bye-bye Pacers. They got a meme going around right now that says one of these guys will get their first ring and it's Jason Tatum
It's Luca and it's fucking Anthony Edwards. The meme didn't even mention Halliburton or none of them niggas
We know the Pacers ain't going nowhere. Bye. Bye. Bye
But yeah, this is Kyrie gets his revenge
You know the NBA likes a good storyline.
Yeah, they do.
Kyrie gets his revenge on the Celtics or the Celtics get their revenge on Kyrie.
That's my prediction.
I don't think they can hang with Minnesota.
I want Minnesota to go.
I've ruled for Dallas, but I don't think they can.
And I think Minnesota goes.
And I think from-
You think Jama Ran want Minnesota to go?
No.
No, not at all.
But I think that's what we say.
I think that's why the NBA would love that's gonna be the person to do it
Yeah, we're saying more and they damn near if Rudy Goldberg make the finals. Everybody moms will come track over again
He's gonna go do something stupid. He gonna be the one
Now they they Anthony Edwards and you to death and I think
They trying to transition him the baton from LeBron. Then we get Boston in Minnesota and I think we get Boston in six.
So you got Boston regardless.
I got Minnesota. I got Minnesota winning at all.
I don't think Boston can win at all with no Porzingis.
That's true, it does depend on if Porzingis comes back.
If he comes back then I got Boston.
It can't be Minnesota with no Porzingis.
I got Boston, Minnesota and I got Minnesota winning.
I got Boston to win it, but I wouldn't be Minnesota with no Porzingis. You're on Boston, Minnesota and I got Minnesota winning. I got Boston to win it,
but I wouldn't be surprised if the league is setting up the Luka Donchik run
with this finals.
I don't think they have enough help to beat Minnesota.
They load it. Minnesota can't score.
Minnesota can't score and Dallas is loaded.
Dallas has the front court bodies after that mid-season trade
to be able to deal with
The Twin Towers back there gobert and call towns and I think Minnesota was built to beat Denver
So you need those two bigs to be Denver PJ Washington and honey homeboy these these bigs that's moving around and three from outside
They're gonna pull some of them niggas away from that rim
I just don't see and Kyrie is still Kyrie.
So we'll see.
I thought that too until I saw what they did
with Michael Porter Jr. and Aaron Gordon.
They neutralized them niggas completely.
I thought that Minnesota would have been too slow
and too big to play them.
We didn't see fucking Michael Porter Jr. at all.
Minnesota, you go home, man.
Room for down.
Congrats, it's been a nice run.
Yeah.
Anything else? Nah, a nice run. Yeah. Uh, anything else? Nah.
Mm-mm.
Good.
Nope.
Alright, so I guess I have to find a sleeper to play?
Yeah.
Yeah, you ain't gotta stop nothing when I say I gotta find a sleeper.
Mm.
I'm not like the rest of y'all.
Some people hear they sleeper for the first time.
Right, some people gotta step away, use the bathroom,
put the phone to their ear on camera so we can see them,
listen to the sleeper for the first time while they do this.
That's not me.
Music is in my heart, soul, and DNA.
I could do this in my sleep, my nigga.
And with that being said, Rob 49, money bag, yo.
You guessed it.
Hey, keep fucking this up.
Leave me out of here.
Hey, hey, hey.
It ain't nothing better than a 10, that's a slip.
The type of girl that already be wet before you touch it
She love with my chains, like her face when we fuck
I love me a slut that got a taste for that up
Face car bustin', middle car bustin'
French tips bustin', super wet bustin'
Bread ain't suction, gave me a concussion
Bubba booty bustin', everything ain't bustin'
Everything ain't bustin' Everything ain't bustin'
Everything ain't bustin'
Everything ain't bustin'
Everything ain't bustin'
Come and get near me, I just said that she was thinkin' it
Let me tongue kiss it, that pussy talk, I'ma sync with it
Pull the towel down, I run the red like I'm waitin' to hit
Boss a pick and choose a ass bitch, but she my favorite
Bad bitch, big booty, pretty titty, it's bald head
Keep it waxed, pretty kitty, pipe her up, bust her down
Now she lit in, doggy style, turn around, give me 50
It ain't nothing better than a 10, that's a slut
The type of girl that already be wet before you touch
She love with my chains, smack her face when we fuck
I love me a slut that got a taste for that uh-uh
Face card bustin', middle bar bustin'
French tills bustin', super-wack bustin'
Grade-A suction, gave me a concussion
Mother booty bustin', everything bustin'
Bustin', bustin', bustin'
Spit in my mouth, baby, bring me closer when we fuckin'
Let me see you, grab your knees and call that pussy for me Cardi B on the remix, Cardi B on the remix, please, baby, bring me closer when we fucking Let me see you, gray on the ears and pop that pussy for me
Cardi B on the remix, Cardi B on the remix, please, please, please
La dee da dee da, slide on me now
Brand new Ferrari, bitch, don't fuck me in that drop
Pretty girl the best, I keep bad hosin' myself
Let's have rich sex, grab my chain tight when we fuck
Baby, kiss that nut
Baby, kiss that nut
Baby, kiss that nut Baby, kiss that nut, uh, uh Baby, kiss that nut, uh, uh Baby, kiss that nut, uh, uh Baby, kiss that nut, uh, uh
It ain't nothing but a dinner tea and that's a slut
The type of girl that already be wet before you touch her
She love with my chains, smack her face when we fuck
I love me a slut that got a taste for that uh, uh
Face car bustin', middle quad bustin'
French tills bustin', super wet bustin'
Grade A suction, gave me a concussion
Bubba booty bustin', everything bustin'
Everything bustin'
Everything bustin'
Everything bustin'
Everything bustin'
Brand new music, that's Moneybag, yo Rob 49, that record is called Bustin'
And yeah, I'm a bird so I played it
That shit is hard
Nah, that shit is hard, and you're right, the remix, Cardi on the remix
I thought you were gonna say you are a bird
I thought you were gonna say you're right, you are a bird
Yes, I'm a bird, and yes, we need Cardi on that remix.
I can't even hear her verse.
That remix right there.
Also, I want to say, where is Cocaine 80s?
I know, caveman, caveman.
Boy, that would be a great summer treat
for Cocaine 80s to just pop out.
I was gonna say Jhene Aeiko,
but that made me think of Cocaine 80s,
so that would be such a treat.
Also, where the fuck is Givion?
Where is he at?
Don't just slime out Shorty and then disappear, nigga.
Come answer for yourself.
I wanna hear it.
Yeah, for sure.
Givion got all the breakup songs when you was wrong,
but you got to gaslight her
and thinking it was her.
And I need some of those.
I was going to say too, I know he
wild out a while ago, but I want
I'm ready for like a new Miguel project as well.
Miguel bullshitting around.
I know.
I thought after he was hanging himself from the hooks.
Yeah, he hung himself from the hooks.
I don't know what happened, but I miss
the back hurt project.
You see that? The back hurt. Fix happened, but I miss the back hurt project. You using that?
The back hurt.
Fixing his skin.
His leg might hurt too.
From the drop kick?
He did the little leg drop.
Yeah, but Miguel, you dropped some shit, man.
You do that shit again, I'm going to grab my blazer, nigga.
All right, I'm shutting up.
I'm going to friend of the show from the West Coast, Vince Staples.
The song is called Shame on the Devil.
New album on Friday.
Yep.
It's a little different.
I long for loving and affection.
These hoes ain't what I need, I need direction.
Don't leave me, I need you.
I need you.
I need you.
I need you.
I need you.
I need you.
I need you.
I need you.
I need you.
I need you.
I need you. I need you. I need you.es ain't what I need, I need direction
Don't leave me, please, sweat, I learned my lesson
But I still chase thrills, I'm imperfected I don't wanna talk on the phone, need me a message
Voices still in my head, voices still in my head
People my closest are friends, it ain't no amends
I'd rather kill them instead, out of the ruins of spread
You picked up one that's gon' get us some fed, John
Where's the corner with dead vines?
Shed more of your devilin' touch, babe
Ain't doin' no make me special, make me special
I pray for things like this
I pray for things like this, like love She's on the devil, touched by an angel of love
Make me special, I pray for things like this
Michigan fleet, out of the mud
Labor to leader, they follow in touch Light on my feet, floating above
I done be creeping and keeping in touch
I know some hunk that'll pull up to get me some pussy
Before they come get me a hug
Shit is disgusting, but then
Only the heavens can judge
Look what I'm juggling
Tommy the Clown, mommin' and fair on the way
Keeping me clean, wiping me down
Lovin' that booze, yeah, where we would play
Passing the gated to pull up on bae
Get in them Malibu chills
Know we not talkin' as much as we should
Know that I'm proud of you still
Slottin' for Shelly and Phil
If I don't do it, who will?
Tell me who shoot for the shooters
Who gon' look out their Medusa?
Life is a bitch, get it and quit
Deal with the karma, the sutra
Fuck up some comm comments like future I'm the only family in church, Brian Angel and Lord, witness, passion, and research
I'm praised for being a scientist
I don't have the word to do it, I can't do it for my sin
I don't have the word to do it, I can't do it for my trust, man
I'm going to Detroit. What up, though?
Hey, some village put out a new album and it's really fucking good. It's called fun. This is factor with Elijah Fox The good times I spend with you
I'm trying to factor in The way it always ends with you
Yeah, I'll be there for you, yes I can for you
All I want for you is to give us a go
I can't for you, all I want for you is to give us a go
I be mad confused, you got issues too, it's like out the blue but damn girl, I gotta know
Let me know some, let me know some, let me know some
I need that love back, can you rewind that? I need that A$AP, where can you find that? Tell me where it's at, where it's at, yo
Where it's at, like, it's like
Yes, I'm so frustrated, this love's track
It's related, wake up, activated
This intoxicated dope
I'm trying to factor in
Time to say that you It's like, who do I blame? I could be the too, factor in The way it always ends with you
It's like who do I blame I could be the factor but the factor remains
It's never for long, every time we're home It's just like a song, somehow it has to end
Yeah, just back and forth, but like the radio
I was thinking about sketching my feelings right out before I could cynical rock
Let me just figure this out, true
And if this is real, stay set, then we just set this away
Beautiful elegant chase,' my cynical ways loose
Yeah, now I have to map this map A dealer's built this establishment
I give you like half of this Whatever your answer is, cool
Yeah, what you wanna do, don't, don't I'm trying to get off with you
They say love is a battlefield I kept it like more than rest
That's when I overcame
The answer will soon reveal
Hoping that you would still be careful with my heart
I know you playing games
Just don't rip my shit apart It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I could be the Factor but the Factor remains I'm trying to factor in the way it always ends with you
It's like who do I blame? I could be the Factor but the Factor remains
Somehow we quiet the storm when we perform but when it's over, it's over
That is Factor by Slum Village, Elijah Fox, and Eric Roberson. The album is really dope, vibe, good summer vibes.
Salute to Slum Village, Rest In Peace, Dilla and Batu.
I'm going to, I'm not sure how to pronounce
the young lady's name, it's either Naya or Nia.
Okay.
But the song is called Sideline
and it's featuring Jasmine Sullivan.
Oh shit.
That's good
You have a boyfriend I know, I know, it takes time to get someone out your mind You don't give me any signs and I told you all the passwords to mine
Another day, I haven't been completely faithful
It was way back in April, we didn't have a label
Yeah, I tried to play it cool, it's never really stable
It's never ever able to pick you up
Keep waiting for the right time
Why you keep me on the sideline
I'm sick of all this trying, trying, trying
While I watch you drift further away
It's like i had you
but i don't really have you
but i'm giving you all of me
when i only get half of you
and i'm done way to understanding
and i give too many chances
i keep making up excuses
while you make up like a bandit
but now
it's getting harder to ignore
i said i feel too little
But I was so in love with you, my dear
You've got to make things clear
Keep waiting for the light, darling
Why keep me on the sideline?
I'm sick for this trying, trying, trying
While I watch you fall away
I'm not that other thing to make me feel
Tell me you love me and so I know it's real
You know I try, try to believe in us
Try to believe in us, try to believe in us
But it gets hard as fuck, you know it
Keep waiting for the right time
Still on that satellite
I'm so far away
Waiting for the right time
Why you keep me on the sideline
You know you're
I'm sick for this try, try, try
But I want you to fall away
Ooh, waiting for the right time
Why keep me on the sideline I'm looking for the right time While keeping all the side flight
I'm sick of all this joy
I'm trying, trying, trying
I'm looking for the right Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm a liar, I'm a liar, I'm a liar
I'm a liar, I'm a liar
That is Sidelined by Nia and Jasmine Sullivan. That was absolutely fire. The song keeps going.
I don't want to cut it, but it looks like it goes on for a little while longer.
That was tough. That was tough, tough.
Big Mel. You got it? I do. Okay. Mine
is Light by Fando. I win the day world when you're round the bar
I win the day world when I keep finding out
There ain't no way for us to keep our love alive
But in the dark
I feel like we found a love that we call into it
I feel like we found the love in the dark I feel like we found the nothing but we go into it
So to save us we run away
From the lake
Cause I love my dad
I love my day, and it, I love my day, and it So I'm tight, till it's gone
And now, I'm crying out, and I break down
And I'll wait a while
So when I wake up, you were still around
So that I could wake up to your pretty smile
Under the dark
I feel like we found the love and then we come into the house
I feel like we found falling in love in the dark
I feel like we're falling in the heat but we come into it
So to save us we come in
And then we come in
Follow the light
Cause I love my day
And it I love my dance And it
I love my dance
And it
So tight
And it
Don't run away
From the light
Cause I love my dance
And it I love my dance That is Thando which is spelled TH Ampersand O period.
Light.
Alright.
Gonna find that in the search.
Tough one to find so I wanted to spell it out.
Yeah, I'm saying this.
I believe Big Imani's got a sleeper for us.
Yeah, fuck you think I ain't got one too.
We in the high chair.
What Mike did? Song is called Inside by Ziri. We had to let things go, so that we both could grow
Inside is killing me
Oh outside you never know why
I've come to terms with it
But it still burns a bit
We'll never be the same
All two strangers once you paint
Is killing me inside
You'll never know outside
All time is killing me inside, you'll never know outside You'll never know outside All time is killing me inside
It's killing me inside
You'll never know outside
Go, go, go
For you I would die and kill
Your love takes away my will
Your life goes on the same
While my heart's averse from your pain
They say you must live and learn
The sun's felt always return
one day i'll be over you
but now i'm just trying to get you through
inside
you'll never know outside
you'll never know outside
you'll never know outside
you'll never know outside
you'll never know outside
you'll never know outside
you'll never know outside You'll never know I'm tired, he's killing me inside
You'll never know I'm tired, he's killing me inside
He's killing me inside, he's killing me inside
You'll never know I'm tired, he's killing me inside
Ziri, that's inside.
All right, that's for you.
Because you're inside.
I'm inside.
You are inside.
So that's your theme song.
Definitely inside.
Y'all know nothing about that life.
You're right.
Mel, you ever been to the sound factory? Hey.
No, I don't think so.
Maybe.
The club?
When was it popular?
Is it right now?
Is it gone?
Yes.
Is it right now? Is it gone?
Yes.
Dude, Peaks niggas crazy.
Yo, I'm so unsexy.
Sound Factory is a club going on.
On the west side, I forgot the street where they played all the instrumentals
with fucking no words on it for like 37 hours in a row.
And they just sold the water and everybody was on acid
and shrooms and fucking.
Oh, that sounds like my kind of fucking place.
Every one of your sleepers reminds me of just catching you
walking in the sound factory.
Like, yo, my, hey, my, ah, yeah, doing the robot.
Just sleep walking from now.
You know, sleeping like shit at 2 p.m.
Yeah, daytime quality.
Oh, it's kinda like some raver shit. Yeah, for sure. Some straight ecst that shit at 2 p.m. Yeah, daytime, daytime. I used to believe in that like 2 p.m., 3 p.m. Oh, it's kinda like some Raver shit.
Yeah, that's what it was.
Some straight ecstasy shit.
Yeah, that's the first time I ever heard about ecstasy,
I think.
Oh, man.
I think that was before my time here.
All right.
Is it bad?
Yes, nigga!
Nigga, I ain't know what the show was about till today. I just told you. And I wasn't born was I born yes 88 nigga oh I was a thing I was voting for the caucus
Yo. What?
Nigga, I was thinking.
Selling drugs.
I was.
He was selling drugs in 88.
He was a smooth criminal.
He was a smooth criminal.
Back in 88 he was.
And y'all was a ballerina.
He got the pictures he could see.
All right, well stop.
I won't play it.
Fuck out of here.
I'll play something else.
Yeah.
Happy tunes only.
Happy, look, more Sound Factory. Is she ready to go? Look the blazer's floating
right now. Very much. Yo man, hopefully y'all enjoyed this very special edition of the podcast.
I felt it was important. It was important. If you got a problem with all the, all the
DV talk, then fast forward through the first two and a half hours, catch your sleepers
and kick rocks, niggas. We do want to thank Flint for calling out and coming
to work adding massive confusion to the day as co-workers friends people we love
that's my man right there I love him. I love y'all too thank you and thank you for your
honesty throughout the... appreciate that. Your confession. You real. Nah, dead ass, that was important.
And we'll talk, we'll talk.
Talk about what?
Nothing.
Just your style.
Yo, you mixed...
They can start oversharing.
It's like, alright, alright, alright, alright. Back to Mercedes.
Listen man, that nigga is a piece of shit.
Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there.
Lord knows. Please, please.
Extra prayers on me. Like extra mayo on a sandwich.
Extra prayers on me. Honestly. on the sandwich extra prayers on me honestly
Until next time we bid you a do farewell adios to Reva D'Orchie
Asa La Vista arboise so long goodbye or head nod to niggas you really fuck with or really don't fuck with head
No, I mean a few things be careful
Until the next time remember life is a series of moments and moments past so let's make this one last as if it's all we have and lastly
The baddies are insecure to stagnant women want to travel and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things grab you
I be profan you might need them
Again thank everybody for the honesty today. Okay.
Look at Mel ready to float away.
You're so predictable.
This is Jamison. I love Jamison.
And if there's some shots of Jamison.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Are you going to mention our weekend that we have planned or
you want to leave that for Pedro?
Oh no, that was important.
Listen, y'all, we might not be here on Friday sorry I had plans to come
in Thursday and do some Saturday pod shit but fuck all that y'all ain't
treating me good this week I might come in just fuck the makers and take my ass
home we are in DC for the tank concert and Saturday whatever's going on out there
on Saturday and maybe and and and Sunday
brunch got to brunch on the road hungry holiday weekend I'm a making one the
problem brunch is you might run into alcohol whoever's driving might not be
all driving or now you gotta say something you gotta stay another night
oh nobody's right fuck yeah you know what's funny in my adulthood
flying places that my entire life I've driven to so I've never seen the airport.
I've never seen the airport in DC. You lying. Reggie? Neither one of them. You know his name
Dr. Reggie. Why would I ever have to fly into DC? That never even popped into my brain I was such
a small thinker. Three and four hours I would hit the road yeah I would drive on my back you had to see my face the first time
which was recently maybe last year that I flew in the Boston's airport Logan
that fucked me up not fucking almighty prestigious Boston with that rinky-dink
bullshit bump-ass airport they got that not y'all. I never read that. I never read that. That airport looked like the airport in Columbia, South Carolina.
Yeah, full of trash.
That shit is a mess.
All the money y'all got in Boston.
Yo, come on.
The least y'all can do is fix the airport.
Y'all put the Martin Luther King statue up.
Out.
Yo.
Back to statues.
That statue.
They did?
Hey, yo.
Oh, God.
Yo, whoever loved me when I go, don't play with me on my statue my nigga
I can see the bullshit in Jersey City now
Why they put a model of the king statue in Boston? Have you seen the statue?
It's some bullshit, right?
Yeah, it kind of looks, it looks phallic.
I don't know what that means, but it's some bullshit.
Like a dick.
Word?
No, we don't call that phallic.
What do you call it?
A dick.
A dick. Okay, well, I cleared that phallic. What do you call it?
A dick.
A dick.
Okay, well I cleared that up.
Yeah, that's what it looks like.
It's supposed to be like the embrace.
I think that's what it is.
Oh, that bullshit.
Oh yeah, with the arms.
Your mind shouldn't even be right there off our DV episode.
He did it.
Yeah, that's what you did.
Oh, whoa.
Damn.
We're going to throw you a bubble.
Come out, we caught it.
It's a raccoon.
All right, we'll try this ending again.
Hopefully, y'all enjoyed this podcast as much as we enjoyed
delivering it to you, man.
Hopefully, everybody has a real great rest of your week
out there.
There's no shows I'm watching that I need to tell the good
people about.
Stacks, man, check it out. I'm watching that I need to tell the good people about. Stacks, man.
Check it out.
I'm going to check that out.
Oh, Nikki Glaser special.
You talk about it.
It's funny.
Go check that out.
You saw it?
Mm-hmm.
Who?
Nikki Glaser.
Nikki Glaser.
She was on the roast, the Tom Brady roast.
Oh.
And I asked, and I got my answer.
Bel-Air season three is August.
They announced today, August 15th.
No.
Oh, great.
Shout out to me on August 14th when I could delete Peacock.
Wish I would. It's over for that.
Sorry, buddy.
Some of those little subscription sites,
I just don't know if I'm doing them again.
It's over now. Yeah.
See, I bought a year. So you got me.
I bought a year. I don't.
I bought a year, no commercials.
I go out of the car.
Once I got the Coco Jones album,
what else do I need Bella here for?
Yeah.
That show's good.
Hey, the little nigga playing Fresh Prince
ain't done nothing productive in real life since.
Don't try to get me hooked on the fucking hoopla.
God.
That's nasty.
Fuck that.
I'm now watching it, call it what you want.
Shout out to Angel Reese though though man she's doing good
Shout to her
Shut the Angel Reese doing good and shout out Caitlin Clark doing good. Oh, yeah, Caitlin Clark shout
I'm gonna shout out black people right now. Shout to Caitlin Clark. Oh shout out. They are in state
What are you doing? He's black. I'm just saying black people are. They didn't get eight points the other day.
Niggas had them on more.
They're off the hand.
Yo, they didn't get eight points the other day.
I told you, how can you
basketball out there?
Who's the worst player in the NBA right now?
Right now it was bad.
He home right now.
I'm not disrespecting you.
I don't know why
nah hold up now there was some nigga they said has yours no about the Tony
snow graphics he played 20 I absolutely love this trend going on where they say
that like how do I say like they, like, I'll just play it.
Aaron Neesmith is the Michael Jordan of Josh Greens.
James Harden in his current iteration
is the Corey Joseph of Luca Donchiches.
LaMelo Ball is the LaMelo Ball of Tyrese Halliburton.
Aaron Gordon is the Kevin Durant of Brandon Basses.
Alperen Shangoon is the Anthony Edwards of Nicole Yocuches.
Dennis McJr is the Drew Holliday of Josh Hart.
That's a fact.
Josh Hart.
Is the Josh Hart of Josh Hart.
Yeah.
Can't put it any better.
Colin Sexton is the TJ McConnell of Russell Westbrook.
Brandon Miller is the Austin Reeves of Kevin Durant.
Victor Wendoniyama is the LeBron James of Bull Bowls.
That's a fact.
Dante Exum is the Patty Mills of Drew Holliday.
That's funny.
Yes, just because he's Australian.
Zion Williamson is the Russell Westbrook
of Charles Barclays.
Kobe White is the Jordan Clarkson of Jalen Brunson's.
That's a fact.
Tell me I'm wrong.
That's a fact.
That one is a fact.
A few of them.
This new trend I think is the funniest shit in the world.
And it's some thought going into that shit.
Yeah.
Kobe White is the Jordan Clarkson of Jalen Brunson's.
That makes all the sense in in the world I love this little
I am one all of them yeah not every couple of them Brandon Miller is the
Kevin no no not Brandon Miller my man from this Austin Reeves is who's man
for the pelicans Angra is the Kevin Durant of Austin Reeves what the fuck are you talking about? That's funny. It's like a... Although I say Ingram is the Austin Reeves
of Kevin Durant.
It's still funny.
It's still a compliment in some way.
I understand what they're saying.
Mel, do we have any final words from you,
your blazer, the cuff in your jeans,
or these Baker specials?
They are not bakers, go fuck yourself.
Is this...
Is it Vapormax, what?
He said these are bakers.
The bakers special.
You know what bakers are?
They are not bakers.
Mel B at Bakers.
Do we have any final words from you?
What type of shoes is though, Mel?
Sebastian.
Oh, take that.
Lil Mermaid?
That's what I was thinking too.
Same thing.
No final words.
Mel B going crazy on the eyes.
When she get her face beat,
she put the whole shit up there like, shh.
Look at that.
Hey, yo.
She put her face in the...
Okay, no, I'm leaving.
I love her.
I'm leaving.
I'm leaving.
Look at her though.
I'm leaving.
Yo, Mel, I ain't gonna lie.
She put the whole...
When it's something to kick a man's back, and you come here, you fly.
It's, I don't know what temperature.
You come here, you fly.
Black man too, right?
Yeah, you sharp.
You speak for all the women.
You can't look raggedy up here while you speak for GoDB. No, look at Mel. She's like, I? Yeah, you sharp. You speak for all the women.
You can't look raggedy up here while you speak on TV.
Oh, look at me, she went through that.
You're lucky I kept my glasses in my fucking bag.
It was over for y'all motherfuckers if I pulled them glasses out.
You came here focused and you made it about men too.
Well, every man, Joe had to stop you like,
Oh, let me through that man.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, man, it completes it. Wait, bitch. Oh, let me through that bitch. Oh, yeah, man, it completed.
Wait, bitch.
I like when you did that.
That woman spoke with me.
That nigga did shit like this.
Wait, what's going on?
Bitch, what like this?
No, I didn't.
No, we'll be in this nigga.
No, I didn't.
I watched you.
I thought you were going to check her.
No.
But you let her get her shit off?
Wasn't me.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, No more final words? We done? No, we done. Oh, I'm sorry. Shout out to mail, man. No more final words? We done?
No, we done. Oh my God.
They've been getting at me, we wrote some mail too much.
Yeah, I told you, not too much on mail.
Yo, for you fucking mail lovers out there,
as long as she's on the gig,
she's one of the kids.
Dog fouling is happening.
Sorry, it is more fun than we let on
It's a good time now. We want to do it within reason and not get crazy
But if we can't dog pout now, she gotta go
Come on. That's what I bet straight. I'm gonna take a joke. Can you finish?
the drops
Year and a half fucking later Came don't. A year and a half fucking later.
If you actually came to work for a year and a half,
stop calling out.
If you stop calling out, every chance you get.
J.B.P. J.B.P.
Why don't you be back to me?
By the way, I got a time to vote next week. No kidding.