The Joe Budden Podcast - I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 107
Episode Date: April 12, 2017Joe, Mal, and Rory sit down to discuss the United passenger situation, Joey Badass's comments to Hot 97, Troy Ave's breakfast club interview and overall status of his situation, and much much more! Sl...eeper Picks Of The Week: Joe: Mack Wilds "Explore" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q80dFZ8kX7k Rory: They "Back Around" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICLmpr2sIO0 Mal: Gold Link "Crew" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rAw8wv1QPQ
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Pat, we live.
Microphone check, one, two, one, two.
I will name this podcast later.
I want to welcome all the listeners.
This is episode 107.
I know last week I said episode 107,
but I was ahead, kind of like I am in life.
Oh, boy.
Is this how we're starting today?
See where this is going.
This is where this is going?
No, I wanted to start.
Well, we can't start where I wanted to start.
I wanted to start with why Maul bought can't start Where I wanted to start I wanted to start With why Maul
Bought so much steak
And stock in Virginia Black
He's the only one
Cause he's OVL
He's so blem
Alright
He's so blem
Yes
Mad blem
Alright so
Where do we wanna start
Let's start with Maul
I walk in
And Maul tells me
That King Kendrick
Is getting everybody The fuck out of here Friday, right?
Both of y'all are saying that.
I don't know why.
And then I say, yeah, I agree he is.
And then Maul says, you too.
He groups me in with that.
Yeah.
You rap, no?
No.
There's no history of you rapping at all.
History.
You said present tense.
Just put an album out like two months ago.
That was past tense.
You said you don't know why we feel like he's getting niggas out of here.
Ask Maul.
Both of y'all.
You said it on your new show.
Maul's saying it.
Everyone in my mentions is saying he's getting everyone the fuck out of here on Friday.
Why is he getting?
I think he's going to put out a great album.
No, when I say get niggas out of here, I mean he's going to force niggas to rap.
Niggas is going to have to get on their shit.
Why?
I don't know about that, bro.
Because he's been rapping and no one needed to and they're still successful.
No, niggas needed to.
Niggas have tried.
Well, who's he going to force to rap?
We're talking about casual fans right now, right?
That would think this?
Yeah.
Because every time Kendrick puts out an album, everyone is woke for a week and they love
lyrics for a week and then Uzi puts out another great song, and we've moved on.
That's what happens.
So I don't think he's getting anyone the fuck out of here.
I think he's just going to put out a great album.
That's all I think that's going to happen.
I'm new to the Uzi bandwagon, by the way.
I like Uzi now.
Uzi's great.
He better stop DMing my bitch before I fuck him up.
He going to take sin.
But other than that.
Stop DMing my bitch.
Is your lady replying?
And first of all
Stop snitching on Uzi
How do you know
He don't have a situation
And shouldn't be DMing
I ain't gonna lie
That was kinda crazy
Yeah
You ain't supposed
To put that out there
Huh?
That's wild
What if he got a girl?
Then stop DMing my
No
Jesus Christ
Where's your ethics?
Yeah
What the hell is wrong
Talking about Don't fucking put that out Where's my fucking? What the hell is wrong talking about
don't fucking put that out?
Where's my fucking clip, man?
He's such a hipster.
Was this a case of Mendeecees having his cake
and eating it too?
Because when he wasn't with Yandy,
was he with Erica?
Was he snitching on Uzi?
Or was he snitching on Fetty?
Right.
Let me tell you what's funny about that, right?
So even when, and I don't want to drud us out,
but when me and Sim was talking about it,
I was like, you know what's wild about the DM?
Because it wasn't nothing but like just a little emoji.
I was like, I want to be mad at it.
I can't be mad at it because I feel like all the young kids,
when they send you like a pink heart,
like it just means peace and spread love and unity.
Like it don't mean what it used to mean for us.
Like I won't put my dick in your mouth.
You got Uzi fucked up.
That pink heart don't mean peace.
Word.
What does it mean?
He trying to see her pink heart.
I think Sin could take Uzi.
I think Sin could take you.
All right.
So no, let me tell you why I feel like that about Kendrick, Roy.
Why do you name your album Damn if you're not killing somebody?
Tell me.
Explain it to me.
I didn't name the album, so I wouldn't know.
I know, but I'll just prophesize.
Guess.
No, no, no, no.
I think he is, to your point that you made in your Complex show, because we're going
to plug it, because you don't like to plug things on here.
We got to plug it, because if we leave the promo up to them, I mean,
I get fired already.
No,
you had mentioned
that you think
he's going to be rapping
and all that bullshit.
I'm just saying to the fans,
I don't,
the fans are who are,
who's going to get people
out of here.
Not the rappers anymore
with memes and tweeting.
They kill people.
Rappers don't kill people anymore.
So I think,
I think it's not going to matter.
I know,
but I'm only talking about
the attempt and the skill set.
I'm not talking about
what happens after
He disses somebody
Well Kendrick's been doing that
For quite some time
I think niggas is getting it
That album cover
That title
That everything
That look in his eye
That little staggering
I know that look
My pop made that look
In front of
The Port Authority
When I was like seven
I've seen that look before
I have seen that look before.
I have seen that look before, I'm saying.
What does that look mean?
Oh, come on, man.
I'm just asking.
You know what that look means.
I think my mom's gave me that look in front of Alexander's on the Concourse one day.
Back in like 86.
Everybody's mom has given him that look before.
That's a fact.
I feel like that's the look Kendrick has given.
I don't know I'm excited
Out of all his album covers
This has been the
Like least
In depth
One
Every time he does something
It's like amazing
With the van
And the story told
In good capacity
He getting right to it
Fuck all that
To pimp a butterfly shit
In front of the White House
It was
A statement
Yeah
This motherfucker's
Against a brick wall
It took some clip word art
From Microsoft Word
and put down
he not playing
listen let me
let me tell you
with
with the Kendrick album
title and just with
albums being
titled
Wild Shit These Days
Roy
I think that
that title might
could come back man
no I think it
obviously means something
but I'm
no I'm talking about
nah I think I love this bitch
oh yeah yeah
listen man so we was closing out the all love the love lost love I found love lost love mean something. Yeah. No, I'm talking about nah, I think I love this bitch. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, man.
So we was closing out
the all love,
the love, lost love,
I found love, lost love,
whatever the fuck
I was doing back then.
We was closing that out
with nah, I think I love this bitch.
We just can't do it now.
It was a joke back then
just because it was
a real hard album title.
It was a joke to everyone
but you and I.
Yeah, because I thought
that was a real hard album title
until I went
and really fell in love. Now it's whack.
I can't say, nah, I love this bitch and
be in love. There's nothing dope about that.
Yeah, because we talked about it on Twitter and everyone
came on my mentions. It was like, stop calling
Sin a bitch. I was like, this
was from like four years ago that we bought this
title. Yeah, Sin was nowhere
in the picture. And Rory and myself, we want to stop
using that word anyway. So how do we
feel? Alright, I'm just going to wait
for Kendrick.
I feel like academics
has talked my head off
about Kendrick.
So I don't want to talk
about him too much here.
Wayne, no.
Any thoughts on that?
The rumor,
the alleged rumors
of Wayne to Roc Nation.
Maul was at the signing.
So I think he's
our senior
Roc Nation correspondent.
This nigga's
every click's correspondent. Maul, what's happening with Wayne I think he's our senior Rock Nation correspondent. This nigga's every click's correspondent.
Maul, what's happening with Wayne?
Is that a Dreamville hat?
That's definitely the crown from J. Cole's Born Sinner album.
What kind of hat is that?
Y'all funny.
I see y'all on y'all shit today.
I see a fucking Maul day to day, huh?
No, I'm just asking.
I don't know what type of hat that is.
It's when we were young.
Okay. I don't know. That was the outro on Blueprint 3, I believe. You. I don't know what type of hat that is. It's when we were young. Oh, okay.
I don't know.
That was the outro on Blueprint 3, I believe.
You're trendier than me.
I don't fucking know.
Trendier.
Yeah.
You're a culture.
What did you just tell us you were?
A culture forwarder?
Is that what you came in here and told me and wrote me a new title?
That does not sound like it.
He said, I don't rap no more.
I'm a culture forwarder.
He called himself a tastemaker on Saturday.
That is fucking crazy.
I was blown away.
That's crazy.
Listen, guys.
Your next album going to be trash.
I already know.
I'm not making another album.
Your next album going to be trash.
That shit going to be damn in a different tone.
Yeah.
He going to try to culture forward us to death.
I can't be a culture forwarder?
No.
But why?
Because you can't.
But what if I'm doing all of my power to forward the culture?
You pulled the culture back so much, you got to do a lot to put us forward now.
First of all, Rory, complex is damn.
No, I had to let that say what Maltz just said.
Joe brought us back 30 years.
Word.
What the hell is Walt saying?
I'm a culture set backer?
Yeah, you're a culture set backer.
Oh, man.
Now I forgot what I was saying.
Oh, Rory, you want to hear something real corny, but I mean it's dope, but I mean it's corny.
What's Complex's little phrase that they painted on all the walls?
We're not pop culture.
We make culture.
Culture.
Culture pop.
What's up with this fucking mic?
We make culture pop.
That's the culture trying to cut you out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what it says over there.
Listen, I got my work cut out for me, man.
I got a lot of work to do over there.
I can see that.
And your little trendy mesh workout, but I don't really work out t-shirt.
This nigga different, man.
I'm saying.
Lulu limit.
First of all,
you and all the other New Yorkers today were bugging.
I know it was like 75 degrees today.
You're in shorts and a t-shirt.
It's going to be fucking 50 tomorrow.
This is how you get sick.
I had a hoodie on the whole day.
I'm not rolling with this weather.
You're not catching me.
I didn't wear these shorts all day.
I didn't have more.
I just put them on, number one.
Number two, I like watching people go to work.
I think I was telling Rory that.
I see all of their pain and misery on their face as they go to work.
You could almost see somebody's entire temperament, their lifestyle,
just as they go to work.
Take the train to work instead one day.
Yo, when is Take your homies to work day
Oh no
We have to do that on Thursday
We'll talk about that later
Wait what
We're using Complex
To take photos
For our podcast
I didn't even know
That they had
Take your homies to work day
They don't
I'm just breaking some shit up
But I just want to
Walk around Complex
I want to shadow you
At Complex
You should
Yeah I do
You should
I seriously do
But why
Cause I just want to
Look at you in a different
Work environment
Nah you don't want to look at me in there.
Why?
I'm in there going to work.
Okay, I want to see that.
I've never seen that.
Because then I'm not going to work.
You've been in the studio with me.
You've seen me go to work.
No, and that ass music.
I'm talking about like around other people.
Because you hate being around other people like that.
And I think they hate being around me.
That's why I want to be there.
I need to see that.
I need to see how they react to you.
Can we roll up there?
Y'all can come up there
I don't know if you'll
Be allowed entry
Is it weed friendly?
If we'll be allowed entry
Look how he talking
I know
We're not allowed entry
It's a complex
This is a sophisticated
Internet TV show
You guys are just on a podcast
Yeah
If you don't get the fuck out of here
I see you got your button up game
In order
I'm watching you on
Who is this nigga man?
How many button ups you bought? Don't lie No I gotta of here. I see you got your button-up game in order. I'm watching you on. Who is this nigga, man? How many button-ups you bought?
Don't lie.
No, I got to buy some more.
I got to buy some more.
I've worn it, too.
You're going to see him tomorrow in the white shirt.
Yeah.
Yo, it's going to be such a drastic change tomorrow when the sweats come out.
I was about to say, I ain't see a sweat yet.
Well, I'm trying to give them some different shit in the wardrobe,
but now that I have a job and people got to see me,
I'm noticing my wardrobe is just not
really essential.
Yeah, so you can't wear the same sweats you wore to Melody
six months in a row.
How do y'all do it? How do working people do it?
Y'all just keep shopping?
Well, I personally don't really care how I'm viewed at work.
I just have to give a cool appearance
that looks like business-ish. You're on camera. i just have to give a cool appearance that looks like business
ish you're on camera you actually have to look really nice i could buy a bum ass button up and
just wear it to work and go home and no one will really see me but my co-workers that i don't
particularly care what they think how i dress you on the other hand are on camera talking so you
need to look somewhat nice i don't want to shop i shop. I don't want to put any thought or effort into how I look, but that's a story for another day.
I'm going to try.
I'm going to find another button up.
Either that or it's going to be the true religion flannel.
Are you going to wear your S. Carters again?
No, those were Gucci's, damn it.
Does anybody have a take?
That's how you know Joe is old, that he got his first job and he brought out the Gucci's.
That's some old school shit, man.
As long as they ain't low.
Gucci sneakers are not particularly like the go-to like they used to be.
That's how I know you old.
Wait, first of all.
It was your first day of school and you put on your Gucci sneakers.
Yo, you laid your outfit out on the bed.
Definitely did.
Oh, I see what's going on.
With the sneakers at the bottom.
Are you going to wear the high top Prada's tomorrow?
Because you know those are coming.
Is this a case of Mendes having his cake and eating it too?
First of all, it's the low-top, shiny Prada's that niggas was doing that Feli tried to bite.
No, Feli had the mids.
And then Finesse bought a pair.
Pregnancy.
Finesse bought the Feli Prada's.
He ain't even know He thought he was
Killing the
The house party
Finesse bought the
Feline products
It's fucking crazy
Remember the
Feline products
Man that's crazy
Oh man
Niggas was clowns
When they had those
I can tell y'all missed me
Cause I'm trying to get
Y'all to talk about hip hop
I can tell y'all missed me
Is that what you can tell I'm trying to get y'all You had to know-hop. I can tell y'all miss me. Is that what you can tell?
I'm trying to get y'all.
You had to know I'm going to fuck with you, man.
I'm sitting watching that complex shit.
I'm like, look at this nigga here, man.
They let this nigga up in this building, man.
I was body and tell you, give me some critique.
That'll be good.
Y'all give me some critique on how I'm doing in my first week of curating and forwarding
the culture.
Culture forwarding. The culture look like it's in good hands right culture. Culture forwarding.
The culture look like it's in good hands right now.
Right?
Yeah.
I don't know if you're being funny.
No, I see what you're trying to do up there at Complex.
I see you trying to be the, you know,
you're going against everything, what you normally do.
See, that's funny.
I thought I was actually being friendlier.
No, no, no, you're being friendly,
but your objective is you're going against, you know,
with everything at Complex, the millennials, the, you know, the hype beast. Like, you're going against You know With everything The conflict The millennials
The you know
The hype beast
Like you trying to get rid of
Oh you know I hate all of that
Yeah
Oh that's happening
We getting rid of all that shit
Yeah
Academics is best friend
With the kid
XXXTentacion
So they be talking
That's the other Drake one
The one that rap
Like Drake
Or Drake rap like him
Something
That kid
Something or other
But anyway I'm just getting familiar with him.
I'm just learning.
I'm just learning all this shit.
I don't know.
My only critique is what I said to you before you even did this shit over the weekend.
Just stop screaming because people won't really care what you have to say if you sound angry as fuck.
Listen, I'm trying to be excited at 7 in the morning.
All right, I'll stop screaming.
Wayne, Maul, come on, title man, give it up. Title man. Yeah, tell me what you think. What was the deal for. All right, I'll stop screaming. Wayne, Maul. Come on, title man.
Give it up.
Title man.
Yeah, tell me what you think.
What was the deal for?
All right, listen.
How much you get up front?
How many albums?
This now, we playing,
but we heard this rumor years ago.
Yeah.
Years ago we heard.
It's been going on forever.
Years ago we heard that
Hov was trying to sign Wayne.
This was Rockefeller.
Yeah, Rockefeller.
That's how old this is.
So today now, we're only going off of Wayne announcing this from stage.
Which I think he's done already.
He has.
Like three years ago, I felt like he said, I'm Roc Nation.
I felt like he threw up the diamond three years ago or some shit like that.
I feel like he changed his Zodiac sign from stage.
He just blurt shit from the stage.
His basketball team's changed.
He just blurt shit from stage. Why are we team's changed. He just blurts shit from stage.
Why are we putting any credence to what Wayne says from stage?
I don't know.
Well, there was so much coverage of it, I figured it was true this time.
I didn't realize it was just a stage yelling.
Oh, so we still don't know if it's true or not?
No, we don't.
I'm not putting credibility toward someone announcing something from a stage.
I'm just not doing it.
And Wayne on stage at that.
And, I mean, if I'm going to get my title
Rock Nation News from somebody,
it won't be Wayne and it won't be from the stage.
I'll wait for Hov to come crawl out of Groundhog Twitter
and tweet some shit.
Well, until you see Jay and Wayne together in the office
with champagne and toasting, you know it's not really a picture.
I feel like Hov just has brunches now to announce shit
and then the pictures leak.
Until I see a picture of Jay and Wayne.
Yeah, until there's some pancakes and some mimosas.
I'm not believing any of this.
I went to title office thinking I would find Maul and Hov
having brunch playing some card game.
I didn't see it.
I know you didn't.
I didn't see it.
Well, that's because they wasn't a part of the office.
You're not allowed in.
Oh, here we go.
Then I went, yeah, I know.
Then I went, I've had a couple of meetings.
I see a lot of young people out there.
So I'd be joking and calling Rory young and stupid.
But really younger people are taking over the world out there.
All right, so y'all don't care about Wayne and his announcement?
Not until we know it's official.
All right, let's talk about Fight Club then.
United.
Let's do it.
Yeah, I think that dude is going to get a badge.
I've been saying Fuck United On this podcast
We've been saying
Fuck United
For a really long time
That was who you was flying
When you was stuck in
I've been fucked team United
I tried to tell y'all
But then y'all wanted
To get on there
And get thrown off
I don't even know
If I have sympathy
Because I've been
Trying to warn everybody
Yeah
But we do know
That he will see a bag
From that
I don't know that
Okay
How do I know that
His report was that everything worked.
I assume that.
I assume that, but I mean, I don't know that.
I didn't know that the rules were...
Now, again, we've been killing United forever.
I hate United.
I hate any airplane that you buy a flight
and they don't assign you a seat.
Yeah, I don't like that.
No, that's Southwest.
United don't do that shit.
Well, up until this gentleman, assign you a seat. Yeah, I don't like that. No, that's Southwest. United don't do that shit. Well, up until this gentleman, you got a seat.
Southwest incites riots if you are trying to sit down.
No, but he had a seat, and they overbooked, which every airline does.
They always do.
Every airline overbooks.
Well, mainly Delta and United.
Yeah, but I think they go by whoever purchased their ticket last,
and then they had to have Delta employees
fly to the city where that flight
was going to. So they asked a couple people to get
off. They went from $400 to $800
vouchers and a free night at a hotel.
And the next flight was at 3pm.
Not for nothing. Everyone on that plane was bugging.
I'm taking the $800 and a hotel
if I ain't got shit to do
the next day. I would have got right up if you don't have shit to do the next day. I would have got it right up.
If you don't have shit to do the next day.
I just don't.
I feel like out of 200 people, someone did have shit to do the next day.
But there was another flight leaving that day, wasn't it?
I think it was tomorrow at 3 o'clock.
Oh, the next day.
Oh, yeah.
He might have.
Because he is a doctor.
I heard he was a doctor.
Well, not him.
I'm just saying someone on that flight.
Oh, yeah.
I would have got it.
I'm just going to take the $800.
I would have got it.
Mom, man, you have been together A million times At airports When that stupid announcement
Go off
And then we don't move
No well it was never
For $800
It was always for a flight
It was for like a flight voucher
It was never
Because if it was $800
I would have tapped you
Like Joe Mahal
At you tomorrow
Go get this $800 real quick
Hope you don't get dragged off
Yeah like
Think of what
$800
I didn't know the rule was
When you
When they are forced
To bump somebody
That they allow
The computer to randomly
pick a passenger i could see any of us having that reaction if you are randomly coming to my seat and
telling me i have to get off of the plane i would have reacted much worse i was i would have fought
the cops the three of them oh yeah i could see you doing that 100 if they touch me and for a plane
ticket that i purchased i'm going to, and then I can't sue anymore.
So that's why I'm saying I don't know if he has a case because—
Well, he didn't get physical.
He just didn't get up.
And they dragged him out of the seat.
He hit his head on the—
Well, you see the language that they're using now in all of these press releases is he was defiant.
He would not—you know all the bullshit that they pull out.
So I don't know
If they were following protocol
What does a judge say
When this goes in front of a judge
I know that was horrific to look at
I don't want to see that
Yeah
The second clip was the creepiest shit
The just kill me shit
Yeah he ran back on the plane
That was wild
He ran back on
And ran to the back of the plane
I ain't gonna lie
I would have got off the plane
At that point
Now you done spooked me out
I done seen
Too many final destinations
Now you done ran off
And on the plane
The whole plane got bad karma
And shit
Yeah I'm out
Delta employees here
Yeah
I'm cool
Have a blast
Take my seat
Well the United CEO
Put out a statement
In regards to the staff
He was defending them
He said
Well I deeply regret
This situation arose.
I also stand behind all of you and want to commend you for continuing to go
above and beyond to ensure we fly right.
So is he suggesting that was flying right?
I guess so.
And they was going to Cincinnati.
First of all, what is important in Cincinnati that you got to drag somebody
off of?
That was crazy.
So reports are coming out.
I've seen two conflicting reports.
One said that since that event, United has lost $675 million.
I saw $800 right before we got here.
I saw another one that was a bit less.
It said $275.
Either way, it's a hit.
Yeah, they're losing money.
Either way, and that's going to continue.
And they were already having financial problems.
Listen, I'm all for what's right,
but if them United tickets start going down for like $79 to LA,
I'm team United again.
Y'all have fun with that fight.
You and Maul, I noticed that y'all are conveniently woke.
Like y'all are down for the cause when it's convenient.
Let's talk about it.
When?
Maul was saying fuck Uber until it was time to get an Uber.
Then he needed it.
So he's conveniently.
Did I say fuck Uber?
Not on the podcast.
Not anywhere where we could hold you to it.
You know you do your fake woke shit.
And then sure enough, Uber.
Now you with this Southwest whatever United bullshit.
All right.
So United happened.
Something else really, really, really important happened.
What was it?
I got a list here.
You have a list of what happened important?
Yes, and all of it is not important.
Rory has a list of all the things that have happened that are important.
French Montana, that was like right after we
recorded maybe we should start with that i mean that's kind of came in record but not him calling
uh the chick a nappy headed hoe or something oh oh no that's over we don't care nothing about that
he he uh i see swiss on instagram premiering a new french record with the weekend playing
oh that's cool i'm here for swiss i didn't hear that did y'all hear the new ludicrous record with The Weeknd playing. Oh, that's cool. I'm here for Swizzy and French. I didn't hear that.
Did y'all hear the new Ludacris record with Ty Dolla $ign redoing Thong Song?
Yeah.
No, I did not.
I saw the video. It sounds like it might be fire, though.
Didn't they have a clip?
Isn't the video out or something like that?
Yeah, it's a video out.
He has like CIG abs?
Like he CIG'd his abs or something like that?
Yeah.
So the young people are really confused as if Ludacris hasn't been animated
in videos since 95.
Nothing to be alarmed about there.
I don't think he was
trying to trick anybody.
No, no, no.
But I like the song.
But I like Thong's song.
I like Ludacris, man.
But Ludacris started
getting that Hollywood money
and he just was like,
fuck music.
I know.
So now you come back, Ludacris.
You come back to hip hop
but you're looking too clean.
Yes.
You're looking too good.
Your shape up is too crisp.
You're a Hollywood star.
You're wearing shit that we don't wear in hip-hop, like shit we can't afford.
We've never seen that Versace shit.
I was happy for the transition.
I think he had a great career and made a lot of great music.
I think he's underrated as a rapper, but I'm cool.
Go act.
Wait.
I'm happy for the transition.
What is there not to be happy about?
He left rap and went to make movies.
Anybody's making that transition. I don't need the transition happy about? He left rap and went to make movies. Anybody's making that transition.
I don't need the transition back to rap.
I'm good on Ludacris.
Yeah, I'd like to know why he's rapping.
And I like that song.
I like the song.
Because I think Ty Dolla $ign can make all of us sound dope.
I love Ty Dolla $ign.
You're going to have to start rapping again, too.
Rappers rap.
He's a rapper.
I'm sure he just loves making music,
so he's going gonna continue to do so
Oh please
And it's not like
He'll take a financial hit
He ain't give us no fucking music
When they was doing fast
Five, six, seven, eight, nine, and ten
Yeah but
Now all of a sudden he back
He got a little window right now
Fuck outta here Shaka
Yeah y'all niggas kill me man
Mack another one
Let's get into Mack
Y'all niggas kill me
And of course y'all are doing
What y'all are supposed to do
Right
Y'all kill me when y'all are supposed to do Right Y'all kill me
When y'all try to capitalize
Off your momentum
Yeah
God forbid
Mack got two shows out
He got
The Breaks
Another one on the way
Another show
He's in The Breaks
He's a cop I think
He's in Shots Fired
With Sonali
And that show is out right now
That's the one yeah
Boy I got a lot of jokes
On that show
We gotta get Mack on the show man
Mack won't As if he needs to be On another show But We got to get Mac on the show, man. As if he needs to be on another show, but we need to get him on the show.
Mac should come on this show.
I don't know if he's ready for me to interview him.
The questions I have to ask Mac.
Yeah, I think per our conversation Saturday, I think.
He probably shouldn't.
I'm going to personally text him and say don't come if Joe invites you.
Mac is very well.
His PR.
Oh, yeah.
He's been doing this For a while
But it's different
When your friends
Are asking you questions
That shit so see through
I see right through
All that PR bullshit
Mac be doing
Yeah but you're not
Going to corner him though
Mac's album is really good
It is I like it
Like let's talk about it
Mac's album is
And dare I say it
Surprisingly good
Yeah
Was I the only one surprised
No
Well his first album was good
Alright stop
I don't want people to confuse what I'm saying
His first album was good
It was very different from this
This one seems a bit more mature
Yeah
What was the last album?
What three years ago?
A long time ago
For you to do that type of turnaround in three years
For you to develop that type of turnaround in three years, for you to develop that type of maturity,
just sonically,
I didn't expect there to be so much grown man music
on the album, and I love it.
And I like the girl that left the voicemail.
Whoever she is.
There's a few girls.
We got to start pinpointing the girls that have,
you know what I mean,
left really sexy, good voicemails in hip hop.
Yeah.
That's a list that has not been created.
You're right.
Yeah, we got to create that.
That's untapped.
You know how blown away I was in 2000
and whatever year that was in Def Jam
when I was sitting at one of the cubicles
and I found out who the girl on Hovi Baby was?
That was a big deal to me.
Yo, do people still, do girls still leave voicemails?
I don't think so.
My voicemail's not even
set up on my phone.
You can't even leave me
a voicemail.
What would a girl leave?
All right,
I like where this is going.
Tell me what,
because no,
nobody leaves voicemails.
That's old fashioned.
Because if you call me
and I don't pick up,
you usually just text me.
Well, some people.
I think text is the new voicemail.
You know what's real stupid?
Only my mom leaves a voicemail
at this point.
Some people call and then you don't answer and then they just call you again.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's not even, the voicemail is not even like a thing anymore.
Voicemail is almost like writing somebody a letter and going to the mailbox and sending it to them.
I think that's nostalgic and people should still do it.
I don't want anyone, bill collectors leave me voicemails.
Oh, they're never gonna Abandon that game
That's it
You know what's funny
I don't even really
Use my phone
Sin called me earlier
And we hung up
I looked at the time
That shit said
Six minutes and forty seconds
I was like
I'm so in love
Who talks for
Six minutes
Six minutes
Yeah
You use your phone
For everything
But talking on the phone
Right
So
Alright
What else happened
Really good Rory has a list the joey badass hot 97 thing which we could give some backstory but before we
even do that i'll do it in reverse fucking ebro i asked a million times on twitter he replied back
to me until i said all right come on the podcast and talk about it then he ducked and said i have
my own show to do that y Y'all can't handle questions.
Even though we would be the one asking the questions.
Ebro, come the fuck on the podcast
and stop bullshitting.
Ebro ain't coming on the podcast.
You're ducking, Ebro.
Let's call a spade a spade
and let's just have some real talk here, man.
I'm starting to think Ebro is scared
to come on this podcast.
Because when I speak to him,
well, last year before we fired Marissa,
when I speak to him, he says, I before we fired Marissa, when I speak to him, he says,
I remember.
He's still a friend of the show.
I'm just saying he's ducking.
No, he's a friend of me in real life.
He ain't a friend of the show.
I don't know if you're a friend of the show.
You won't come up here.
I have so many questions, fam.
I do, too, and I think this was perfect.
I think Joey Badass was absolutely correct in saying what he said.
I think it was ballsy, bold, and it took guts to say that to their face sitting in front of them.
For those that don't know what I'm talking about, I'm talking about when Joey Badass sat in the High 97 morning show
and he said, Peter and Ebro, don't you think y'all two should get up?
Y'all are holding the spots for the next Peter and the next Ebro and the next generation of just waviness and flyness.
And then Ebro said, you got to come take it.
You got to come take my seat.
Now, I originally got really mad at him saying that until I remembered it was Ebro and he just trolls.
He just trolls, trolls, trolls.
So even that was a troll.
But I'm still mad at the troll.
was a troll but I'm still mad at the troll I'm mad at the troll even because that frame that that train of thought is what has corrupted this industry for so
many years when I was trying to get a deal in whatever year that was 96 I had
a hard time getting a deal because everybody I've rapped for thought I was
nice and who wants to help somebody who's nice So And I think
Where Ebro was even more wrong was
Joey's point wasn't saying quit your job
We don't want you here anymore
It was develop someone under you
That's what he was getting at
And that's what Ebro was like come take my spot
Joey's not saying come take my spot
No one's taking your spot
And that's why no one's taking the label head spots
Because all you guys are best friends
And no one's going to fire each that's why no one's taking the label head spots because all you guys are best friends and that no one's gonna fire each other that's not gonna happen well i think
what ebro was trying to develop the kids under you that's another point which you and i spoke
about this weekend that's why leor cohen is so successful i worked with leor for a short period
of time when i was working for kevin lyles at kwl fucking leor sat with the assistants the interns
with everyone and he would ask them questions every day
because he knew that's who he was selling music to.
He wasn't talking, as much as he talked with Todd and Kevin,
he was talking to us more.
All right, what do you think about this?
I'm selling to y'all.
I'm not selling to Kevin.
Kevin's my peer.
Kevin's been in this game for 40 years.
Lior's very in tune, and I think his success kind of reflects that. Lior's at YouTube tune and I think his success kind of reflects
that. Lior's at YouTube now.
Shout out to him.
I think Ebro's
point was Hot 97
has some young talent that they're grooming.
So
Deani, Scotty Beam
seems like the young talent
that they're grooming. I don't know
who else because I'm not so familiar.
I mean, but Deani's been up there.
Marissa was there.
Her nickname is.
Deani, it's kind of been, she's been there for a while,
but it's been new with the development,
and I don't think it's been as quick as it should be
because Deani's very talented and very popular amongst people of her age group
who they don't have listening to their radio anymore.
They have people that are
in their mid-30s
that are driving to work
in, you know,
North New Jersey.
If they're trying to get
these people back on
to Hot 97
and make it relevant
amongst young people,
no one wants to hear someone
twice their age
talking about something
they know nothing about.
Don't say that.
Don't say that
when I just got my morning show.
Yeah, right?
That's funny. But I think that's what Ebro said in the tweet, too. He had don't say that. Don't say that when I just got my morning show. Yeah, right. That's funny.
But I think that's what Ebro said in the tweet, too.
He had said something like that.
What?
What do you know?
Look, old nigga's still holding up spots.
They trolling.
No, I know he's trolling, but I'm just saying that's what he, you know.
I'm not paying none of that trolling shit no mind that Ebro be doing.
I think that he should stop doing it.
I think it confuses people.
Yeah.
Because when you live in your intellect
You just assume that other people have it
So you trolling and people don't understand
You're just confusing people
And confusion is the last thing your morning show needs
But I'm not giving advice right now
Because I just started mine
That's how independence also became such a layup
Because the younger kids were saying
There's no way I'm going to take L.A. Reid's spot
L.A. Reid is extremely talented
I'm not taking away from him He should stay there He's done so much great for music But let me just go independent Because I'm going to take L.A. Reid's spot. L.A. Reid is extremely talented. I'm not taking away from him.
He should stay there.
He's done so much great for music.
But let me just go independent because I know how to work the internet and I know how to upload something.
I can sell directly to people my age.
Now, if these older people in these labels had these people around them, they would have hopped on that right away.
I don't think L.A. Reid know a fucking thing about rap.
Well, he's always been a more...
Not a thing.
Anybody in music...
He did some good at Def Jam,
even post-J,
as far as rap goes.
He's done a lot of good.
Well, no, I'm saying
just hip-hop.
He's a legend, he's iconic,
he's done hip-hop good.
He's done good.
He's been here too long.
Of course he's done good.
I still don't think
he knows shit about rap.
Just because he didn't
put out your second album?
No.
My second album was trash.
My second album was trash. My second album was trash.
That shit was trash.
Yeah, what is he talking about?
Wasn't nobody putting it out.
Yeah, I wouldn't have put that out.
Looking back, that shit was trash.
Yeah, I'm not mad at him.
He made the right decision.
But no, not because of that.
I'm just saying, I think that new, innovative people need to start taking up some of the seats.
And granted, they won't take L.A. Reid's seat
because he's at the top of the food chain.
But here, I'm not just going to speak for young people
and say we have all the answers.
Because I think, to your point,
young people need to shut up and listen, right?
There's such a combative relationship
between older people in the music industry
and younger people
because older people are not giving up shit.
I'm staying in this cushy office for the rest of my life.
My friends are not going to fire me. I'll be here forever. Great. And the younger people are not giving up shit. I'm staying in this cushy office for the rest of my life. My friends are not going to fire me.
I'll be here forever.
Great.
Yeah.
And the younger people are looking at that like, fuck you.
I'm not going to listen to you because I know I got to do this shit on my own.
So there's just two people going back and forth with nothing good coming out of it.
And that's where we get Joe saying, yo, you young people need to shut the fuck up.
And then there's young people saying, for what?
What are you doing for me?
I got to do it all for myself now. And this is my era. And I know who I'm selling to shut the fuck up and then as young people saying for what what are you doing for me i gotta do it all for myself now and this is my era and i know who i'm selling to so
fuck you but there's so much great that an older person in the music industry can tell you because
of course it's changed with the internet but it's still the music business that's never going to
change they have a lot of insight in dealing with that and it's just not going to work out if we
keep going back and forth with Joey saying, yo, develop someone
and Ebro saying,
fuck that, take my spot.
There's nothing productive
for any of us
in that whole entire
five second clip.
Sure it is.
Now I'm just going to take a spot.
Well, yeah,
I was going to say,
you know, now you create
platforms for yourself now.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And as long as people
continue to do that,
then we'll continue
to have good platforms
and not have to deal with fuck shit
from the likes of Ebro on his morning show.
But shout out to Ebro on the morning show.
Do we want to touch 50 and the girl?
I don't know if that's news.
No, it's news.
No, it's news.
We don't even know if we're really connected
because she was twerking on stage right afterwards.
Yeah, I think it was just a case of 50 just assumed that a guy pulled him and he was just trying to get him off.
Then when he saw it was a girl, he was like, oh, shit.
I agree.
I didn't mean to hit you.
You perform.
You know how it is.
You perform.
It's my point.
Remember they killed Afro Man when he was sitting there jamming on the bass and that chick snuck behind him and he fucking.
Yeah, he went crazy.
Wait, he bugged out.
Yeah, yeah, he went crazy.
And he's Afro Man.
The chick snuck behind him on stage and he turned around
and just fucking punched her because he thought someone was rolling up on him.
Yeah.
That's not even the worst one I saw.
I've seen, I can't even pronounce his name, Stephen Badabuchi.
I don't know.
Stephen Badaduchi.
He used to have the show on whatever.
Anyway, he body slammed somebody that came on stage one time.
He wasn't the one.
The listeners will tell me his name because I'm fucking it up,
but Steven Badaduchi?
Once we confirm who that is, he's not the one to play with.
The older white guy Who has some addiction issues
Who
The beginning of the show
The beginning of the show
He was telling you
He wasn't the one
Cause it was
I've just been on
Allegedly
Like
Oh yeah yeah yeah
Homeboy
It's something like
Bada
Bada Bucci
Whatever his fucking name is
Yeah something like that
I thought Rory would know
He looks like Rory
Yeah he's a
I look like mad people though
All y'all white people
But 50's been saying this forever man
He said it in his lyrics
I've never been arrested for nothing domestic
But I ain't gonna lie I punched a bitch in her eye
What's on puppy love
I didn't sit around emotional crying
I caught the bitch on the avenue and punched her in her eye
Yayo said something
Something
My man 50
He was like
This is
It's documented already
You making it too hot
With niggas that can fight
Yeah I feel like I'm snitching
Yeah I'm done
I'm done
Look at you now
Backing off the stand
Since you've been on it
For the past two episodes
Hold up
I've already
These are songs
I've already beefed with 50
I'm quoting a whole song
Oh wait
So this is my question
That I'm asking academics now
Cause he's young
And he don't know shit
So I'll ask y'all
What rapper has had the most beefs?
You
It is right?
Yes
By far
Yeah
By far
Nobody else has
I don't think
The most beef that's mattered?
No
Rat beef
The most rat beef
You
I'd have to fact check that
It's you It's nobody else even close I think it's me too But I don't want to say me No it's you The most rat beef. You. I'd have to fact check that.
It's you.
It's nobody else even close.
I think it's me too, but I don't want to say me.
No, it's you.
Game?
No, you.
Game is up there.
Game is up there for sure.
You said most.
I said most.
It's you.
And now I think about it, everyone that gained beef with you kind of.
And not only that, I think everybody you beefed with started because of you.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
You started all your beefs.
That's crazy.
Misunderstandings.
I'm easily misunderstood.
Yeah.
That's a good stat to have.
I'm proud of that.
You are proud of being misunderstood?
No.
I'm proud of having the most beefs.
How many have you won?
That's what really matters.
That's debatable.
Anyone can start beef.
That's for the fans to decide.
But once academics said, name them, and then I started to name them,
not only did I beef with a lot of niggas, I beefed with the greats.
I didn't just shoot at a... Let me not diss somebody now.
Yeah.
See, look.
It's tough to say Hove, Fifth, and Wu-Tang
when you're about to start your resume.
Look who this nigga beefed with.
That's crazy.
It is crazy.
I'm glad you said that.
And Drake, kinda.
So yeah, you got some pretty high names there.
Drake and Wu-Tang.
You could tell I'm off
Yeah
That ain't even four people
You pick to beef with
You tried to beef with Eminem too
You tried it
On Slaughter Mouse
Might still be
I'm just saying you tried it
You tried it
But you know
Em know you
So he's kind of like
Man that's just Joe
Em loves me
Yeah I know
I saw Paul two weeks ago in the complex building.
I chucked that nigga to do sex.
Wait.
Slaughterhouse album.
I'm coming to you.
Wait.
I see Paul getting a head nod through the glass window.
Hey, Paul.
Yeah.
You really are industry now.
That's great.
No, I'm just saying.
Head nods in the office.
I'm up there to work.
So I ain't there to talk about Slaughterhouse. Yeah. And you ain't there to work, so I ain't there to talk about Slaughterhouse.
And you ain't there to, well, maybe you are there to talk about Slaughterhouse.
I doubt Paul was that complex to talk about Slaughterhouse.
I think he was.
Oh, well.
Sorry, all that got to go through Joe now.
I hear you.
Sorry.
Joe's going to push back his own album.
Yeah.
2036.
Dropping.
Basically. I don't give a fuck. All right, let's see what else we got good here. Own album Yeah 2036 36 Dropping Basically
I don't give a fuck
Alright let's see
What else we got good here
Oh I want to shout out
New York
I want to congratulate
New York for becoming
The first state to offer
Tuition free
Four year college
Now I read that
And I was really excited
About it
Until I read the small print
And it's mad shit
They want you to do
To go to
Community college
In New York
It's not community college.
It is community college.
No.
That's a four-year college.
Like Albany, Binghamton, New Paltz.
Those are four-year schools.
They've all passed.
Unless I read it incorrectly.
I could have.
I read that it's a community college that is doing this.
You have to attend for four years.
After you graduate, you have to live in New York
for four years. But community colleges,
aren't you only there for two years?
You asking me?
Chris is saying yes. Are you asking me about college?
They said all SUNY schools, right, Chris?
I don't know. I'm not fact-checking this shit.
That's not community college. It's real four-year schools.
State universities. I don't care.
That's a big difference between free community
college and a free four-year fucking school. It's a big difference. Alright, so explain the differences. I don't care, nigga. I ain't going. That's a big difference between free community college and a free four-year fucking school.
It's a big difference.
All right, so explain the differences.
I don't know.
Community college is what you would do to get your grades up to then get into a four-year school.
Who the fuck would do that?
Wait.
People trying to contribute to society.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Unlike people that scream on Complex.
You're not telling me that I have to go to a college
in my community for two years
before I could go to the college
I want to go to?
Yeah, but you only have to do-
Why the hell would I do that?
You only have to do two years
at the four-year school
after that to graduate.
Oh, whatever.
I only have to stay home.
How about that?
And write a rhyme.
What the fuck are you talking about?
That sounds like a lot.
Anyway, I'm all for that.
Let's see.
What do we care about
Do we care about
Quavo and Carucci
No
What happened with
Quavo and Carucci
They're dating
No they're not
They are
She got into his car
Yes
And a picture was taken
So that means
So that's dating
And they're engaged
In 2017
Yes
Baby on the way
That is what that means
She had a little bump
Quavo not soldier boy either
Quavo might actually Shoot you He just dressed nice I wouldn't I had a little bump Quavo not Soulja Boy either Quavo might actually shoot you
Shoot who?
He just dress nice
I wouldn't
I wouldn't fuck with Quavo
Shoot
Oh
Now
Maybe a Chris Brown
A Chris Brown Quavo beef is coming
That's what I was suggesting
Chris Brown is somewhere
Writing the greatest R&B record
In his career right now
Guaranteed
Chris Brown put that
Privacy record out the other day
And I like it a lot
But I don't see nobody
Talking about that shit
That record is dope Every Chris Brown record that Privacy record out the other day, and I like it a lot, but I don't see nobody talking about that shit. That record is dope.
Every Chris Brown record is dope.
Yeah, that record is dope.
But I don't see nobody talking about that shit.
Niggas don't talk about nothing more than a date, man.
That's just what it is.
How do we stop that?
It's just too much access to too much music, man.
We have too much music every day.
Niggas that ain't even on.
You find a dope artist on soundcloud and listen
to his shit like you don't it's just too much access to too much music because amazing albums
are going in a week which is yes it's just too much and we are music overload right now
shit everything overload do y'all think jenna jackson is a gold digger no yes it's all right
we can say it. Say it.
I said it.
Maul said it.
Can you be a gold digger with a lot of money?
Yes.
That's the new gold digger.
Gold diggers have their own shit now.
They just doubling up their shit?
They're just trying to acquire more.
Wait, that's a misconception.
I'm not even mad at that.
But that's a misconception that because you're not broke, you can't be a gold digger.
Those are the gold diggers.
I guess if you're just a successful gold digger, you...
All right.
I stand corrected.
Janet Jackson married homeboy Saeed Mahmood Abdul-Raouf.
Hold on, before we go any further, put me on, I don't know what their relationship was like.
He could have been wilding.
I don't know.
It just looks sketchy that the prenup was for five years and she left after five years and two months.
Now, he might have been a dickhead.
She might have been going through the worst relationship of her life.
We don't know.
We don't know. We not in her bedroom. We worst relationship of her life We don't know We don't know
We not in her bedroom
We not in her house
We don't know
Yeah but we're misogynistic
So let's just
We gotta put that out there
We gotta be fair
We gotta be fair
We don't have to be fair
No we have to be fair
When have we ever been fair
On this podcast
We have to be fair
When it comes to that
When it comes to a relationship
And a woman
Like we have to give her that
Because we don't know
We can't just say
She left
She's a gold digger
and she didn't have reason to.
Like,
she might have had reason to leave.
When did you get all
Ralph Treisman on me?
I'm not,
I'm just saying,
that's just real.
Nigga,
I had a girl's whole life.
He told me,
we gotta respect the,
we weren't there.
Who you trying to impress?
Every time you say that,
I get like three text messages.
No,
not every time you say that.
You already got your
limited edition Kingdom Come hat. You already got your limited edition
Kingdom Come hat.
You got this fucking
fancy
thermal
long john
shirt.
Nah, it's hard though.
It look like it should say
Carhartt right there.
Oh my God, man.
For real, what's up with you?
Where you going after this podcast?
Uptown.
Chilling.
Got on the crispy shell toes.
That was a fresh out the box.
Did y'all see the Troy Ave interview?
Yeah.
Wait, did we just get, oh, yeah, fuck the Janet Jackson.
All right, let's go to the Ace story.
You said she's not a gold digger.
I don't particularly care.
Let's move on to the Ace story.
Janet Jackson's definitely a gold digger.
But I'd be a gold digger, too, for 500 million.
500 million is enough to make you do some things that you probably wouldn't do.
I'll be a lot of diggers for 500 million. 500 million is enough to make you do some things that you probably wouldn't do. I'll be a lot of diggers for 500 million.
Word.
Any digger that you want to say I am for 500 million,
I'm there.
Right.
What was the new shit we were just talking about just now?
Oh, Troy F.
I had a guest coming,
and I don't have guests coming.
Well, I normally don't have guests.
Let's not say who we had coming,
because we might still have.
No, I ain't having them.
Another date? No, no. I having them. It might pass by now.
No, no.
I don't think that'll pass.
That's something that needs to be addressed.
Well, when I spoke to him, he was like, it's not much I could say because of legal matters, of course.
And then I said, you know, I said, I really just want you there so you can confirm the amount of times that I tried to intervene.
Oh, so it's about you, not even the fans.
I'm a narcissist, Rory.
I find a way for everything to be about me.
I don't know if I agree with that.
I eat all your beefs.
Look at everything coming full circle.
You beef the most because, oh, wow, we're making some progress here.
You might be a culture forwarder.
I'll see where you're going with this.
See?
See? Finally. No, he's a Joe forwarder. I see where you're going with this. See? See?
Finally!
No, he's a Joe forwarder.
It's all about him.
He just happens to be
in the culture.
If I'm a Joe forwarder,
I should have been fired.
I should have been fired
from being a Joe forwarder.
Right.
But like you were saying,
he couldn't talk about it
because of legal matters.
He couldn't talk about it
because of legal matters
and I wanted him to come here
because I tried to intervene
multiple times just to say something.
Partly because I cared.
Another part, just because it was issues that I'm sensitive with, i.e. suicide, i.e. depression, i.e. weirdos.
Troy Ave on his way up, he dissed all of those things a lot, a lot.
So because Hovain, I think, is a cool dude, I hit him.
I've spoken to Troy about this.
Like, I just tried.
I say all that to say I watched that Doggy Diamond interview
where Banga's brother, Trife Gangsta, was interviewed.
Real good interview.
Shout out to Doggy Diamond.
I then watched the Troy Ave interview with The Breakfast Club.
I then hit my group chat about the Troy Ave interview on Breakfast Club.
Then I text all my friends that weren't in my group chat and said,
y'all should watch the Troy Ave interview on the Breakfast Club.
Then I invited friends over to my house to watch the Troy Ave interview on the Breakfast Club.
And then that night, I watched the Troy Ave interview again The Breakfast Club, and then that night I watched the Troy Ave interview again with my girl
on The Breakfast Club.
Now that I've said that,
that's probably one of the greatest interviews I've ever seen in my life.
That's number one.
Since you've watched it ten times, speak on it.
Number two, I'm afraid of Troy Ave.
I'm scared to death for him,
and I am scared to death of people like Troy Ave,
people that have or seem to have very little regard for human life, his or someone else's.
It's scary.
So listening to him talk as many times as I did, he said a lot.
I try my best to avoid people like that.
I found it kind of interesting, and I know I've seen people comment on the fact that he was doing the interview with Charlamagne, who is friends with Tex.
What is y'all's take on that?
Because I don't mind that.
That's Charlamagne's job.
Charlamagne's a professional.
Yeah.
I think he can distinguish between the two, right?
Yeah.
And at that, the facts of the case have not actually came out at all.
So right now I'm doing my job with someone who at the moment people want to hear from.
My only problem with-
I will say he was a little quieter than usual.
I'm not saying he was silent.
He should have been.
He should have.
That was radio gold.
I keep hearing people say that Charlamagne was quiet.
Let him go.
When you have a nigga up there Speaking the shit that
Troy Ave was speaking
You just let him go
Just go
Why would I jump in
Well that was like when we said
Tax in the Beans interview
Tax said like three words
And it was the perfect interview
No that's different
No of course it's different
Tax said three words
Because out of respect
Yeah but also Beans was going on his own You didn't need to interrupt him With a question that didn't matter No, of course it's different. Tax said three words because out of respect.
Yeah, but also Beans was going on his own.
You didn't need to interrupt him with a question that didn't matter.
Of course. I think Charlemagne, of course I can't prove this.
This is just from what I saw.
To your point, I think Charlemagne was also a little uncomfortable as well as any human being would be
with what's happened with this case and his not involvement in the case,
but his friendship with Tax, who's now jammed up
on the gun.
Why should he be uncomfortable?
A friend is a...
I mean,
if there's some...
Why should Charlemagne
be uncomfortable?
If there's some type of...
His friend is involved
in the situation.
No, I'm talking about
with Trav though.
Why should he be
uncomfortable interviewing Trav?
Because his friend
is involved directly
in that situation
with the guest.
But that situation
went on for years. Yeah, but I mean now it's at a different level though. I know. So, and that's my... guest. But that situation went on for years.
Yeah, but I mean,
now it's at a different level though.
I know.
So, and that's my point.
It's a much different level
than some podcast to tweet shit.
This is way fucking different.
But that's my point.
So when y'all watch that interview,
when I watched that interview,
it didn't bother anybody
that maybe, just maybe,
and we don't know this,
maybe if Charlamagne and Troy have that conversation sooner,
maybe some things happen differently.
Because Charlamagne maybe can get through to Tex.
That's after everything is said.
And I'm not blaming Charlamagne, of course not.
I'm not that stupid.
But that was just like a weird twist to me.
And then I had to watch the interview again because I forgot that dynamic.
So then I wanted to go back and see Charlamagne's interview style with this guy.
I just say keep, I'm going to pray for Trav.
I just want to pray for Trav.
I had a whole long hot take to get into all of the stupid shit that he said
and maybe ways that this could have been avoided.
But after watching that Trav gangster interview, like.
I think that, first of all, you know, you got to remember life was lost,
so rest in peace to B.
Yes.
100%.
Condolences to his family.
But I think that that Trife Gangsta, his interview,
he spoke from a place where I think everybody totally understood what he was
saying and where he was coming from.
And things he was saying made sense, you know what know i mean when you take the whole thing into account but above all of this
man the entire situation to me is just so unfortunate man because i feel like it's so
much shit that happened and i still really don't know why any of this happened like that's the
crazy part about all this shit i still don't even really understand how it even got this far and all
of these events happened what happened don't know what happened.
Yeah, like, I'm just saying, like, we know that whatever happened in that room, it should
have never came to that, is what I'm saying.
Like, I still don't understand the whole thing, honestly.
Like, I really don't.
But it's just unfortunate because I think there's so many people involved that had so
much going on, so much positive shit going on for themselves.
And it's just unfortunate, man.
Like, you know, as guys growing up in the hood in the hood man seemed like we always get in our own
ways at some point and my thing is we got to stop doing it we got to stop
getting our own way and we got to start noticing when we find our lane and we
doing some dope shit stay there you know I'm saying fuck all that other shit in
the past and all that negative shit stay on that dope shit and keep doing what
you're doing over here like and we got to stop getting in our own way man but sometimes your ego will void your progression and like i've said
before the energy that you manifest you eventually have to face so you should be very careful with
the type of energy that you create especially when egos are involved that will halt your
progression for positive things egos i like that word That word popped up a lot when I was watching this interview
because he just kept giving off information
without knowing he was giving off information.
At one point, there was a five-minute stretch
where he sounded like him and his mom were aggravated
that Banger's family decided to bury him in North Carolina.
Yeah.
I mean, but that's everything that Trife touched on.
That's why I said everything that he touched on.
Watching that Trife gangster interview was so informative to me.
Well, shit.
Well, shit, Troy touched on it too.
But when Trife said it, I understand.
When Troy said it, it's like confirmation.
But when Troy said it, I understand.
When Troy said it, it's like confirmation. You're not really sitting here telling me that you calling the deceased's mother to say,
why are you burying your child in North Carolina?
Yeah.
Who the f—
Yeah.
Trife handled that interview better than I would.
I would have been screaming.
After I watched that Troy Ave interview And you're speaking Those type of words
About my mother
Who just buried her son
That's my brother
You can tell
Trife is an OG
He's an older head
No he handled that beautifully
He's not
You know what I mean
He's an older
Definitely an intelligent guy
And it sounded
Like
You know I take him at his word
I don't think he wanted to be there
Sitting there doing an interview
I think there was a million
Other things he'd rather been doing.
But because that
Troy Avenue view surfaced,
everybody's family
has to have a representative
to speak for the family.
Yeah.
It's unfortunate
all the way around.
It is funny though
after all that
that Troy is now calling
these other rappers weirdos.
They were the weirdos.
I find that very ironic how come
nobody what's wrong with saying he was wrong about that why he won't say that when like when
charlamagne asked him that at the end i remember he was calling niggas weird so forth and so on
i mean but you had to listen to the first hour or what we've already seen and what troy has given
out to the public he's very arrogant he will never admit if he's
wrong he will dance around a reason to make himself right even if he sounds stupider to do so
but i also think i'm not i won't be a i'm not a i've never been a tray of defender here but
i do want to take into play that he was shot went to jail came out got shot in the head
my mind's gonna be a little fucked up let's keep in i know
he's had all these semantics before but let's also keep that into play i know it's cool to kill
troyad but let's remember as much as he kept saying i got a bullet in my head and he's trying to sound
like pock and we can laugh about that he still has a bullet in his head let's take that into
consideration yeah my mind's gonna be traumatic yeah too. And I think, which is so ironic
but sad about this whole thing
with depression
and mental illness,
I think,
I can only speculate,
but I think Troy Ave
is going through
a lot of mental illness
right now.
I think his brain
is going nuts
and all he knows how to do
is say,
hey look,
I spent a million dollars
checking Instagram
since I got out of jail.
I think this whole-
Word, right?
This was a traumatic experience. Your friend died in front of you you're shot you come out people are still
trying to kill you he's gonna be traumatized but he's got to play it off because that's the persona
that he's given to the world forever and now he has to keep up with that persona which is why it
sucks to give people something you're not because you always got to keep that up and again i don't
know try i didn't grow up with him i don't know if he is a drug dealer or not i do not give a
fuck but he has kept up with this persona of being a tough guy and being this this brooklyn kingpin
and now he's got to continue to do that through this traumatizing moment which he didn't think
he'd have to ever have to face but again back to the energy that you give to the world you now have
to face and i think he's suffering through it now and back to the energy that you give to the world you now have to face.
And I think he's suffering through it now.
And a very important point
that you made a few days ago
that I'll remind you of.
Because I think it's extremely
important to know
who and what you support
before you do it.
Yes.
I do remember that point
that I made.
I call Black Twitter
to the carpet.
Yep.
Call them up.
Black Twitter.
Oh, no.
I was going to get to that after we had our little sentimental moment.
Man, fuck that.
I have texted all my friends included.
This is not just to particular bloggers and some of you.
All of you had Troy as your avi for four fucking years.
And now I don't hear none of y'all saying a word.
I said it to my own friends that had it.
Not a peep. How come none of y'all saying a word i said it to my own friends that had it not a peep how come none of y'all are saying anything are y'all are y'all do y'all play a
part in this situation at all i'm just big on accountability i know that a lot of those guys
have relationships with trey av and i know trey av dm'd all of them which makes you more because
he dm'd me saying post my shit and i looked at that dm like he was out his fucking mind i don't
even like promoting my shit i'm not promoting somebody else's shit and I looked at that DM like he was out his fucking mind. I don't even like
promoting my shit.
I'm not promoting
somebody else's shit
and then he unfollowed me.
That was telling to me.
That was telling.
I mean,
that was it, period.
I didn't have a point,
but.
But yeah.
No, I want everyone
that had Troy Ave
as their Ave
to come clean.
This story is wild.
Wait, not Troy Ave.
Well, yeah,
that story's wild too
Mel B and Stephen Belafonte
I'm forced to read it
Just because that's how wild it is
Y'all don't care about Stephen Belafonte
Beating Mel B's ass
And then taking her to court
For fucking spousal support
Over the kid that they have
I don't care about that
Alright, fine
Bill O'Reilly, wait Go ahead Do we care about that Alright fine Bill O'Reilly wait
Do we care about that?
Hell yeah I care about that
I care about it too actually
Now that I think about it
Right back to my point
The energy you fucking give
It comes back
He's been killing
Every last person
That ever lost an advertiser
In their fucking life
For 20 years
I'm so happy
To watch this happen
to somebody.
I hate when people
lose things
because that sucks
but oh,
I've watched this
with a smile
on my fucking face.
This has been great.
Thank you for karma.
Karma's beautiful.
I see you turning
a little rouge
in the face.
Because I'm a little upset
because he has
an Irish last name
and Irish people
are not Republicans.
I can tell it's personal.
He's the worst Irish fuck on the world. Right, I can tell it's personal for you. He's the worst Irish fuck on the world.
Right, I can tell it's personal for you.
Yeah, and he dragged me through the ringer back in 03, so fuck him.
Oh, you were a pinhead, I believe, that he calls them?
Yeah, he did call me a pinhead.
Do you remember that?
No, no, no.
He just calls everyone pinheads that does something stupid.
Oh, okay.
I'm not going to say what I did because it was real stupid.
No, I want to.
No, no.
Come on.
You have to.
Don't make me YouTube it.
YouTube it.
I ain't saying that shit here.
It was for the Usher Confessions remix I did.
It was just art.
I didn't mean any of that shit.
It was just art.
I didn't mean any of that shit.
Let's see what else we got here.
So it's just sexual harassment
that he can say.
That is good.
Oh, my God.
Rest in peace to St. Anthony's
in Jersey City. They stopped getting high recruits, my God. Rest in peace to St. Anthony's in Jersey City.
They stopped getting high recruits, I guess.
Wait, they closed in St. Anthony's?
Officially.
I know they say it.
They say it every year.
It's over.
For those that don't know, St. Anthony's has been, if not number one,
in the top three high school basketball team for a long, long, long time,
led by Bobby.
Is it Bobby Hurley or that's his son?
Hurley.
They're both Bobby Hurleys.
Yeah.
They're both Bobby Hurleys.
But I was saying to Joe earlier,
I don't think Drake would let a powerhouse close in Toronto.
I don't know.
What do you say that to me for?
Because you're from Jersey City.
And I'm not keeping St. Anthony's open.
Obviously, they're closing.
I went to Lincoln for a week.
For a week.
Yeah, I wasn't there very long.
Funny shit, I think I covered everything.
They had everything.
T.I. on the way here, T.I. said that he created trap music.
Thought that was an interesting point.
No, you didn't, T.I.
Did he?
He was the first.
His album was called trap music
so all right i never heard anybody before can someone tell me what trap music is now because
when i was i'm just saying i never heard it was cheesy to me would be trap music then all the
music is music that you don't want to listen to and it traps you somehow no trap music
trap music is like I wasn't even clever
That was stupid
Yeah this nigga
I ain't like that
No
Man y'all whack
We whack
Look how fast
Look how fast we whack though
No I think it's just
The southern's version
Like how
West Coast
They dubbed that music
Gangsta music
Yeah
It's just drug dealing
Southern shit
But if you remember
It went from Jeezy
And then I don't know
If y'all paid attention,
like four or five years ago, trap music became EDM music for like two summers.
Like all the fucking A-tracks and major lasers of the world.
That's like when hip-hop became reggae tone.
They were calling it trap music, and I was like, wait, when the fuck did electronic dance
music become trap music?
And then it left, and then it became Future, so I don't know, T.I.
I can't say yes or no, because I don't know what the fuck trap music is. He was definitely the first person with the phrase trap music And then it left And then it became future So I don't know T.I. I can't say yes or no
Because I don't know
What the fuck trap music is
He was definitely
The first person
With the phrase
Trap music
I was going to say Jeezy
But I guess
Maybe Tim
No it wasn't Jeezy
But fucking
What
I'm just hearing
The thing with my headphones
Off of that T.I. shit though
Are y'all keeping up With it shit though, are y'all keeping up
with it?
Of course not.
Are y'all keeping up
with Bernice versus
Tiny?
I don't usually pay attention
to these things.
I haven't glued to my screen.
What are they doing?
I just found out about it.
I had to go back
and do my research
to see how it even started.
Yeah, they gotta be blim.
They blim for sure.
They have to be.
Bernice is blim.
They're blimming right now?
Bernice has been blim
before blim was even.
I'm blim about
the pineapple juice I asked Bernice has been blem before blem was even. I'm blem about the pineapple juice.
I asked Bernice for install.
It's seven years ago, but whatever.
Yeah.
Shout out to Bernice.
Bernice do take a little while to make a drink.
Bernice makes a mean Patron straight.
Bernice was slow and BB too, actually, now that I think about it.
Has anyone actually ordered a drink at a strip club?
Like a real drink?
Like a white Russian?
Yeah.
I'd just be curious to see how that would happen.
Those bartenders.
Like, let me get a Moscow Mule.
They definitely would.
You're going to go in there, ask for a Moscow Mule.
Elba's going to walk over to Panda.
Google some shit.
Panda's going to walk over to Linda.
And at the end of that all, they're going to bring you a Coca-Losa.
For real.
Put a picture of Fab on it.
Like, yo, Fab said here, Coco Loso.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Oh.
So I do the fucking complex shit, right?
And they asked me to talk about the Frank Ocean,
Hov, and Tyler song that I had never heard before.
So they...
Oh, you was hating.
Because that artwork is hard.
I agree with you except for the artwork. No, it's not.
Really? Okay, so how about this?
Are we reaching here? Because I
was asking on Complex, what is
that song about and what does it mean?
Like biking? I don't get it right. Cycling
through life.
Alright. Now, I've read
this somewhere, so don't put this stupid shit
on me. I listened to it one time and that's what i grasped from it but i'm saying i read this hot take somewhere
i'm not saying i agree i don't know this is gonna be good
or is he doing some mysterious word play funny shit by dash king no like by king Bi Dash King No?
Like bi king?
No?
He's
Like he's bisexual?
He's the bisexual king
Is what you're saying
Now y'all are laughing at that
But he's the same nigga
Y'all
Have y'all heard Frank Ocean's music?
Is that
Is that far fixed?
That he could sneak in
Bi king?
No I tell everybody
I'm the bi king
You bi for realizing that
When the Channel Orange
Album came out
And the Forrest Gump record
I thought I deleted it
Off my iTunes
And I was in the shower
And it came on
I almost broke my foot
Trying to get out the shower
Cut that shit
Cause you know when you
Delete a song and it plays
You're like how is that still there
On his shuffle
Yeah
Fucker wrapped himself up
In a curtain
Yeah I was like
What the fuck is this doing
To my MacBook still
That shit keep happening With me and Imani's song.
Wait, wait.
I'm just talking shit.
Shout out to E! Blackheart in stores right now.
I feel like something else is real important to happen that we missed.
Do we think Hov allowed that song to go out?
Or do you think he called whatever Frank's office is at this point and screamed at him non-fucking-stop to say,
why did you just let some freestyle shit
where I was trying to catch a flow
out to the world?
That sounded like he was just rambling, trying to catch a flow
or some words. I might be on to something
with my... And it sounded like he recorded the shit on his
iPhone and sent it to Frank.
Like, I'm playing with this.
I think anytime Hov is with Frank, he tries
to be extra, like, weird.
Yeah. I can see that. Just chill.
Just chill.
Let me shut up before I fuck our fucking title deal up in my verse.
Look at all this shit I be saying I'm getting.
All right, what's going to happen tomorrow after we wrap this shit?
I'm all for love of hip hop.
I don't even care.
I don't even care.
I didn't see it.
I didn't watch it.
I don't give a fuck what Kirk is doing, any of them are doing. It's whack. I'm not watching it. There hop I don't even care I don't even care I didn't see it I didn't watch it I don't give a fuck
What Kirk is doing
Any of them are doing
It's whack
I'm not watching it
It's a bunch of new people
Yeah call me when
Some funny shit happens
I saw something today
That said Lady Luck
And Samaya Reese
Would be on next season
Of Love and Hip Hop New York
Check this out
Mona if I see that
Count me in
I'm watching that one
Are you the love interest
For Samaya
No I am not
But I'm watching that one I'm watching that one. Are you the love interest for Samaya? No, I am not. But I'm watching that one.
I'm watching that.
That'd be fun.
Quiet as cap, I have to go back and finish watching the show that Lady Luck and Samaya
are on now.
What is the name of it?
Royal Family?
First Ties?
First Hip Hop Family?
I have no idea.
I should know it because my family is good friends with that family.
So I should know the name.
There's like 10 growing up hip hop kid shows right now that are on weird networks that i didn't even know i paid for
so that's all i got on that yeah did you guys celebrate national sibling day yesterday
fuck i felt bad i didn't i didn't post a picture of my brothers i uh everyone i didn't even know
what that was until like neither did i 10 o'clock at night I'm like what the fuck is nationals when did that happen
but everyone's allowed to be fucking
outraged now
I felt attacked it triggered me a bit
cause I'm an only child
how come I keep saying people
say I felt attacked
it triggered me and how do they know
what I identify as
as far as a sibling or an only child
are you one of those I could be trans sibling you don't know that you identify as as far as a sibling or an only child? Are you one of those?
I could be trans sibling.
You don't know that.
You are trans.
That would explain a lot.
Well, when you said the word trans, I got scared real quick.
I didn't know where we were going with the trans.
Everyone is trans now.
You're trans something.
Okay.
I'm a Libra.
I don't know about trans.
I'm going to write a letter to a girl.
Man, if they don't get Jimmy Walker the fuck out of here.
What did he do? I don't know. Walker The fuck out of here What did he do
I don't know
He just
Dating a conservative white girl
Has Russ had the greatest
Individual season ever
Oh yeah
Today's the last day
Of basketball season
It's over
No tomorrow
Which is today
Oh yeah
Today's the last day
Of basketball season
A lot is happening
In the Eastern Conference
You're MVP
Russell Westbrook
Yes
Yeah
Can you say otherwise
By far
I don't even think it's a I mean I know Harden Had a great year Harden had a great I think Harden should get happening in the Eastern Conference. Your MVP, Russell Westbrook? Yes. Yeah. Can you say otherwise? By far.
I don't even think it's a – I mean, I know Harden had a great year.
Harden had a great – I think Harden should get most improved player, honestly,
because I think he changed – because before this year, people were killing James,
saying he wasn't a playmaker, he didn't make plays for nobody else,
he was just a scorer getting to the free throw line worried about himself.
This year, I think he totally changed that.
The move to point guard was genius.
They moved him to point guard, and then he had to pass the ball to Lou Williams and Eric Gordon.
I mean, was he a point guard? I could get 20 assists passing to Lou Williams and Eric Gordon.
No, he made plays for everybody on that team.
He was a point guard.
I think they'll do all right.
That's why I think he gets most improved player.
Well, that's why you wearing this red shit.
I'm not a Rockets fan.
I don't know.
I'm not.
This nigga switch his team every week. So wait, give me a Rockets fan. I don't know. I'm not. I'm a Lakers fan. This nigga switch his team
every week.
So wait,
give me the Lakers draft
situation and what's happening.
If y'all lose...
I don't know why
we keep winning games.
I don't know what the fuck
niggas is high-fiving.
I don't know what the fuck
is going on.
Why the fuck are we
winning games at this point?
I just don't understand
these niggas.
I say the same thing
about the Knicks,
by the way.
I don't get it.
What the fuck are y'all doing?
The Knicks are going to get
a fucking 12th pick or some bullshit.
I know it.
That shit is crazy.
I just don't know what the point is.
You know what?
And I was reading online, man.
A lot of people, I'm surprised at how many people really feel like Russell Westbrook
should not be the MVP.
I'm surprised at that.
Like, I never thought I would see somebody average a triple.
First of all, I never thought I would see that, number one.
Well, they say he chases the rebounds if I'm playing devil's advocate but that's what you when you're playing
basketball you chase supposed to chase a rebound yeah you're supposed to chase a rebound what they
mean what they mean is he's calling a huddle in the locker room to tell the team when the board
goes up y'all move and let me get it y'all move and let me get it yes that doesn't those people that are
saying that have never played basketball that is impossible to do especially when it's four other
people on the floor that's trying to get that rebound like that's crazy to me look bro i don't
have all the i know you don't but i'm just saying like people are just stupid man yeah i don't know
ignorant question because i tapped out on the nba when the knicks did which was early why is the
mock draft
Boston would have
The number one pick
Yes
They have somebody
They have someone
I mean no
Boston has our jerseys picked
And Kevin Garnett
All of that shit
Kevin Garnett
Pulled up his shit
Oh my god
Brooklyn is fucked
Brooklyn looks super trash
That's nuts
Well they got
The Lakers at three
For Lonzo
I don't want him Yes you do No I don't Yes you do We don't they got the Lakers at three for Lonzo.
I don't want them.
Yes, you do.
No, I don't.
Yes, you do.
We don't need a guard. You don't want Lonzo.
Well, yeah, that's true.
We don't need any guards.
We have multiple guards.
Who you want?
The kid from Duke?
Tatum?
Yeah.
Yes.
I want him too.
Yes.
Well, they have the Knicks at six and projected to get Tatum.
That's what mbtraft.net has to say.
I don't know if Tatum makes it to six.
No, he's definitely
not falling to six.
I don't think he makes it to six.
They have Josh Jackson at one.
I like that kid.
They're all wrong.
That kid is,
I like that kid a lot.
Are you going against
NBADraft.net?
Yes.
I like him a lot too.
How are you at.net
in 2017?
We got Fultz number two.
Yeah, Fultz to Phoenix.
Who would be your guard
if you had to pick one in this draft? Fultz? two? Yeah, Fultz to Phoenix. Who would be your guard if you had to pick one in this draft?
Fultz?
Him or Monk?
You're big on Monk, huh?
A lot of people like Monk.
I got a feeling the Knicks are going to end up with Monk.
I like Monk a lot.
Will I be mad at that?
No.
I won't.
Are they getting rid of Rose is the question there, though.
Yes, Rory.
It's not confirmed yet.
Yes, it is.
You think Melo's last game is today slash tomorrow? Yes, Rory. It's not confirmed yet. Yes, it is. You think Mello's last game is today slash tomorrow?
Yes, it is.
I'm not watching that.
Mello will not be there next year.
I don't think he will.
Mello won't be with you on the Knicks?
No.
How do you know?
I know.
This thing is in the Rockets locker room,
the Knicks locker room.
Mello will not be there next year.
Where will he be?
What a fucking waste.
So give me a ball.
Oh, my.
You think everybody's going to the Clippers.
All right.
All right.
Unless I'm missing something, we can do sleepers.
You were supposed to tell your L.A. story per our group chat last week.
What L.A. story?
About with your man, the actor.
Oh, my God.
Oh, wait.
I kind of want you to tell that story because it's hilarious.
I do want to tell that story eventually.
It's a story I told maybe our first year recording about me at Tyrese's house.
But speaking of Tyrese, TGT is beefing again.
The same beef.
Why is that so funny?
First of all, TGT is funny, number one.
Let's stop there.
Them three niggas is funny together.
Number two, them three niggas beefing is funny.
Why are they beefing?
They never been friends.
What is Genuine, Tyrese, and Tank beefing about?
They're beefing because on Tyrese's Breakfast Club interview,
they asked him what's going on or if he saw some shit,
and he went on a rant saying,
I make more money than them, that's it so that's going
to be hurtful when you say yeah without a doubt uh i'd like to see them resolve it no nobody cares
because this is old people music i don't i mean i love all three of them but i don't particularly
care if they i know people don't care so let me ask so let me i well their first album was amazing
i'd love to hear another album
Oh no they make dope music
So now let me ask y'all
Y'all position here
Should Tyrese make more money
Than the other two
If they go on tour
No
No
Genuine has more hits
I don't believe in that
To begin with
Yeah
Huh
I don't believe in that
That's by default
Everybody knows that already
So what
So you're telling me
That the person with the most hits Always makes the most That's not making when you're in a group i don't
think that one person should make more than anybody else but they're not in a group i agree
with them they're three they are they are in a group they're not in a group tgt is a group yeah
what are you talking about everyone in slaughterhouse make the same amount of money on a
show what's the show a tour let's say a tour per show And should we?
Yes
Yeah
Why?
A group nobody should ever make more than anybody else
Just to make everyone happy
And to keep this thing moving forward
Oh please
Fuck people's happiness
Are you kidding me?
Who gives a fuck about people's happiness?
When you're in a group
Tyrese
No but forget about me
I'm not talking about me
I'm saying
Tyrese is saying that for a solo gig
Because his movies and shit
Has upped the ante for him.
So when he goes out,
he says he gets between
25 and 30 grand.
That's not far-fetched.
I don't think it is.
Even if he,
even if Genuine has more hits,
even if Tank is
one of the best singers
in the world.
So if I...
You may be able to prove
this against,
but if I think
in the same city,
in Los Angeles,
if Tyrese has a show
and Genuine has a show,
I think Genuine's selling more tickets than Tyrese at two different venues.
Same size.
That's not what I'm saying.
I want you to respond to what I'm saying.
That's fine.
I don't care about his fee.
I'm saying who's bringing the most people to a TGT show?
I think Genuine is.
So I think he should make more in that situation.
No way is Genuine bringing the most people to a TGT concert.
Tyrese has been in every blockbuster movie for the past 10 years.
He's the most visible.
He's the most famous, and he has hits as well.
Yeah.
He got hits too.
Talk about music, man.
And people keep saying Genuine got all these fucking hits, which he does.
But if I just start adding Genuine and Tyrese hits up,
Tyrese ain't just far, far down on that list.
He's far, but I think Genuine has more
If I'm making 30,000 grand
To perform somewhere
Tyrese doesn't have a better album
I definitely just said that
What album?
What Genuine album?
The Bachelor?
100% Genuine?
Oh yeah that's the one
Tyrese does not have a better album than that
No
Think
He doesn't
Or a bigger hit
Than Pony
No
He definitely has
Bigger hits than Pony
Pony's not even
Genuine's biggest hit
I mean
Pony ain't that big
One of Genuine's
Biggest records
Genuine has a lot of hits though
He has a lot of
Dope
Genuine is
Differences
In those jeans
Emoji
I think the one that's
Lasted the longest is Pony.
That's just why I said that.
I mean, numbers-wise.
That's the hardest.
Numbers-wise, Differences could have done that.
Throw Pony on today, and you'll recognize why Pony is Pony.
Pony is one of those we still throw it on, it don't matter.
That's what I'm saying.
It's lasted the longest.
That's why I said it's its biggest hit.
I still feel like if I'm-
I think he's closing a show with Pony.
I don't think he's closing it with Differences or In Those Jeans.
I don't think Tyrese should publicly say those things.
No, you shouldn't say those publicly, and you shouldn't feel like that when you're in a group.
If we're going out as a group, we're splitting everything evenly.
They clearly are not as close as they portray if Tyrese feels like that.
It doesn't matter, though, but if we're going out as a group, then we should be splitting everything.
That's how you keep everything from-
That's how you avoid these problems, right?
I know, Mo.
So I'm asking you questions because I want to learn and engage y'all thoughts.
So listen.
So you're telling me if they go out now, what's the purse?
Let's say the purse is 30.
A show?
Yeah.
Let's say that.
Let's say 30, 40.
I get 40 grand.
Split up the 40 for me
Between them three
Even
Whatever
Or if 30 and 10-10-10
10-10-10
And the other 10 to
So wait one fucking second
And I don't know any
Figures and facts
But
If one of them niggas
Was making a stack
I agree with you
So I'm gonna stop arguing this
Cause I do agree
It's just a funny situation
I understand what Tyrese is saying
It's only
Yeah but that's why it's funny though
Tyrese came off
An acclaimed album
His last album is
Okay so tell Tyrese
To go on the tour by himself
Yeah there you go
End it there
Alright go on
By yourself
Yeah I don't think he
I don't think he would make the money
On tour by himself
That he would with
Those other two
And I think you have to factor everything
Like I think Tank
Is more involved in the studio than either of them two.
Y'all keep talking about a bunch of shit.
Yeah, all of that matters to shows because that's how artists are making money right now.
It's not really all sales.
They should split the purse evenly.
Okay, but I agree.
But you don't understand Tyrese feeling like he should get more.
I understand him feeling like he should get more because he feels like he's doing more.
He's seen more.
He's more visible right now at this point but that's because of things to do
outside of music that's not actually music actually now that you say that more if i if a tgt if a tgt
show occurs tyrese probably is responsible for getting most of them people in the seats
and if it wouldn't be him i would say tank is next i wouldn't say genuine genuine they fought with him the whole fucking rollout
see that's another reason i kind of understand this he was the nigga well from what the reports
say i love genuine i don't know i'm just reading the blogs like y'all he was the nigga mollied up
they was looking at him crazy i don't remember all that that was one of the greatest videos
of the last and now i'm now I'm going to turn around
and take my pay down
and raise yours?
Genuine is a loony tune.
I'm not debating that part.
But I'm still splitting that three ways
because I think all three of them
equally bring to TGT.
Well, I'm glad I asked y'all that
before this podcast deal.
That's crazy.
Nigga, I will sabotage this whole fucking...
I will get home on the email like,
listen, I'm hearing things.
I'm hearing things.
I'm hearing things, man.
That's crazy.
Do we have sleepers?
Because I'm sleepy.
I go to bed early now, man. What's crazy. Do we have sleepers? Because I'm sleepy. I go to bed early now, man.
What you want me to do?
We got the Oxcore, so you go first.
Alright, so I will go first.
Oh, LA just hit me. He's
listening this week. He wants us to come.
I would like to come. Oh, where's it at? What day?
I don't know if I'm going to say it on the air.
Is it in New York?
Yes, in New York.
I have something to talk to him about, Yes, in New York. All right.
I have something to talk to him about, too,
so that actually is perfect timing.
We didn't say he was inviting you to network, Nick. He just wants you to hear his joints.
Yeah, we out there to network.
Let's build.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm wearing my Roc Nation hat.
The let's build guy.
I got to give it to you.
I'm going with Mac, Not because he's my man,
but because this song is actually pretty crazy.
This is called Explore off the new Mac Wilds album.
After I was in stores right now
or in your phone store right now.
You should make this longer, Mac. You say that I'm down on my luck
To me have you seen around I lost my love
See baby I was gone too long
I should've been home I was on the road
And I've been blowing up your phone
Smired and tried everything but it never worked
Think I got cold inside
And the rain started to fall
But she don't wanna hurt no more
Said she wanna go explore, go explore
They say in love is a battlefield
I'm lost in the war
Cause she wanna explore
I try to talk to my friends just to get some help
Too many problems on her own so I guess I gotta help myself
Do you do when you love her but you know she loves somebody else
Guess you gotta take the good with the bad but I can't stand how it feels
Alright, I let you rock a lot, Mac, cause you my man.
I don't want people to think I'm taking it.
Mac has gotten stronger vocally.
Yes, he has.
For sure.
It's music, I'm telling you.
It sounds so much more grown than his last project.
I love it.
Shouts to Mack Wiles.
Shout out to Mack Wiles.
Mack Wiles will be at the pool party.
Hey!
Mack Wiles will be at the pool party.
That's right, you cocksuckers.
I'm back, baby!
Because Mack is coming.
He's back.
No.
This ain't going to shut all this shit down.
No, not because Mack is coming.
Because I'm back, nigga. This ain't going to shut all this shit down. No, not because Mac is coming, because I'm back, nigga.
This ain't going to shut all this shit down.
Sin already know the hoes is coming.
I know.
I know.
The distinguished young ladies.
He's going to be right at the door waiting for him.
Right?
Which door?
I have swings through another door.
My sleeper is hard to me.
So this is Day back around.
I like Day.
Day is really dope but this isn't the song that most people would pick off their project to me it was really dope I
picked this one this isn't the one they would pick exactly because I'm not
complex Oh Remy just dissed you by by the way. That wasn't a diss.
But when I thought it was. Don't know what to do Just know everything you do comes back around I'm not sure Just know everything you do comes back around
I'm not sure
Just know everything you do comes back around
I'm not sure These days, things just ain't the same
Inch change, you see it on your face
You know you stay trying to catch me, miss my face
Waiting to put me in my place
You came on early that day Of boy I was really in love with you
You swear that shit ain't in your face, you You turn around and do the same to me
You say you're done with the bullshit, had enough Cause my excuses ain't addin' up
You said I see you playing games, okay that's's what's up On to the next, next, batter up
Sometimes I start to wonder if
You could ever learn the game
Even if I ever wonder
You could never do the same
I got everything I wanted
You just hope I wouldn't change
All you call me in the moment
Oh, yeah, you had to say
Just know everything you do comes back around
I know what to say, you don't know what to do
Just know everything you do comes back around
I know what to say, you don't know what to do
Just know everything you do comes back around
I know what to say, you don't know what to do That was brand new from Rory
From Rory
That nigga tryna
Act like that was somebody outside of him.
That was,
I'm they?
Yes.
That's crazy.
Might be they.
Uh,
let me see the box.
Oh,
yeah,
my bad.
Yeah, but don't just say that
like you got fire coming.
Whenever someone
know they got fire,
they can't find out,
oh,
yo,
where that shit at?
I don't know if it's fire or not.
I like the record.
I mean,
this is Gold Link. It's one of my... Oh, I like Gold Link's project it's fire or not. I like the record. I mean, this is Gold Link.
It's one of my...
Oh, I like Gold Link's project.
It's called Crew.
I like this record.
She see money all around me
I look like I'm the man
But I was down and out like last week
Tell me where have you been?
You came out of hiding, girl
Don't act like I'm your man
You just a fan You don't hold a ring I'm out. Got my folk goddamn Do it for my niggas On the coast right there Do it for my niggas On the coast right now Niggas got killed
For the boy living dreams
In the hills
And they watching
For the boy right now
Goddamn
What a time for the year
We are what them
Young boys feel
I kill
Never be killed
That's real
No lie
You can tell
That from my peers right now
Don't you wanna fuck me now
Don't you wanna love me down
Girl you can't tie me down
Like Ray J said
But no I'm down
Freaky nigga
Show me some
Shout out to Ray J
Put you on a prison like a button
Came for a time, fifth time you bust
Still getting rowdy in a function
Bitches on my dick like it's nothing
Everywhere I go now
Always got shit
Rumpin', jumpin', jumpin', jumpin'
Hey, nice to meet
I'm young, hey, who you be?
I'm a beast in Southeast
Gotta clap it to this beat She invite me to her crib I walk in, hey, who you beat? I'm a beast, in Southeast Gotta clap it to this beat
She invite me to her crib
I walk in, she say, naive
She say, but I live in the hills
Bitch, that's just the way I sleep
Stop that madness, I'm a savage
In traffic with Mach-E levels
Bad bitch, and she's failing
She fired a call of cusses
We get nasty, I'm her daddy
She know her nigga ain't average
Ain't nothing wrong with fake asses Bitch, turn around, let's make magic
I'm geekin', uh-huh, I'm on it Don't look at me like you want it
Tell them that we ain't stuntin' And pull up down, we ain't puntin'
King of this black olympic Can't come here without a permit
This shit really a jungle Gorillas and anacondas
This is the longest song in the world.
Have you listened to your catalog?
Two minutes.
Three minutes.
Not even three.
And no, I haven't listened to my catalog.
It shows.
Just bump it up. Hey, good joke. Listen to my catalog. It shows. Just pump it up.
Hey, good joke.
Shout out Gold Link, man.
There you have it.
That was Gold Link.
Who was the feature on it?
Shaw Glizzy and Brent Fires.
I got to go research Shaw Glizzy now.
He's a friend of the show.
Austin did some shit for him.
He's cool with Wale and them. He's from D.C. I know, and I think he's done a few songs that Iizzy now. He's a friend of the show. Austin did some shit for him. He's cool with Wale and them.
He's from D.C.
I know, and I think he's done a few songs that I like now.
So he's done enough that I have to go see now.
No, Sha is good.
He's definitely good.
That's what I do.
I don't wait until you catch a hot one.
I wait until people have delivered enough where you're like,
all right, let's check the whole catalog now.
Now I have to.
Let's listen to all 70 other.
Oh, we've got T.I.'s holding it down for us on that
same interview. He said marriage distracts him from
his goals and he can be a better friend than a husband.
Thank you, T.I. Stand for
the Kings. Marriage distracts him
from his goals.
And he can be a better friend to Tiny than a husband.
Yo, I'll
name this podcast later, man.
Why you hate it? 107. He trying to get
to this money. She's talking about some other7. He trying to get to this money.
She's talking about some other shit.
I love Tip.
I love Tip.
Yeah, that was a pause.
I'm leaving now.
Is there something we're forgetting?
Probably.
I'm sure.
Did y'all see Power Rangers?
No?
No.
That's a joke.
Is that a movie?
Is it out?
Yeah.
Power's in another two months Ayy
Not Power Rangers mall
Yo who is
Power
Lorenz Tate is in the season
Coming up right
Is he
Yeah I saw a picture of
Lorenz Tate
I think he's in power this season
Oh
I'm rolling with
Whoever's side he's on
Right I've seen that
I've seen enough
Wait Lorenz Tate okay
I've seen enough
Gangsta movies I can see I can see Lorenz Tate okay I've seen enough Gangsta movies
I can see
I can see Lorenz Tate
Killing ghosts man
I can see it
I can see them getting
Ghosts out of here
I can see it
I can see Lorenz Tate
Being the new lead
I'm just saying
I can see it
I can definitely see him
Damn that's not far fetched now
I'm trying to tell you
Cause why would they bring in
An actor the caliber
Of Lorenz Tate
Great actor
I'm just trying to say And who's put in Great actor. I'm just trying to say.
And who's put in some work already.
I'm just trying to say.
So we already believe him.
He couldn't be the new ghost.
You think they're going to have
Tommy get rid of ghost?
It ain't about being a new ghost.
It could be a whole new nigga.
With no more ghost?
No more ghost.
Do we watch Power anymore
if Ghost is gone?
Depending on the transition, yeah.
Yeah, because I got to see
how they do that shit.
Yeah, if the transition is gone.
No, that's us.
Is Power as big As it is
If they get rid of Ghost
That's real risky
Unless you
What's the show
Walking Dead
The Wire got rid of
All it's main characters
They killed Stringer Bell
In the third fucking season
You gotta do it right
I know
You gotta do it right
And I didn't see The Wire
As it was airing
I saw it late
And I can understand
Why there was an uproar when Stringer Bell died.
That was the worst TV death ever.
And then when Omar died, huh?
I think I was the only person that liked how Omar died.
Why did you like how Omar died?
Because it just proved that he survived everything, and all it takes is just a little kid with a gun in a corner store.
It makes sense.
I thought that was just a dope perspective.
Y'all niggas are so fucking...
But Joe hates The Wire, which is the weirdest thing in the world.
Who hates The Wire?
Don't do that.
You do.
Why do you keep saying that?
I'm doing hot take, because you don't love it the way the rest of the world loves it.
I'll never love it the way the rest of the world loves it, because I saw it so late.
I saw it real late.
I would have loved to have seen The Wire when everybody else caught it.
Because to see it, that show at that time, I understand.
But I disagree with you.
I don't like the season three.
I don't like it.
I get it.
I'm just saying.
Don't think that I don't get it because I don't like it.
I don't like season three.
I don't think they executed that.
I just don't.
I can see Lorenz Tate getting Omari Hardwick out of here.
Omari might have had to sign off.
You know what, Maughan? You said that, and I was about to dismiss you. But I can see that happening now, getting Omari Hardwick out of here. Omari might have had to sign off. You know what, Maughan?
You said that, and I was about to dismiss you,
but I can see that happening now, too, and I'll be angry if that happens.
Honestly.
Omari got some other shit going on.
Tasha's definitely going to fuck Lorenz Tate, too.
100%.
Tasha fucks everybody.
That's what I'm saying.
100%.
Tasha might fuck him the night he kills Ghost.
Lorenz Tate is getting clapped. Tasha might fuck him The night he kills Ghost Lorenz Tate is getting clapped Tasha might help him kill Ghost
Lorenz Tate is there to die
We ain't even confirmed
That he's there
Look at us
He's already killing
The main character
Confirmed?
A photo came out
And it had power
It's an official photo
Now see
Earlier when I said
A photo came out
Of Quavo
And fucking Shorty
No no we knew that
But we said
No no no
We knew that was a real photo
We knew that
But yeah no
He's gonna be on the show
I think I'm gonna boycott power
If Ghost dies
No
If it's done right
You can't say that
It's called power
Not Ghost
We trusted them this far
I'm gonna give them
The benefit of the doubt
If they kill Ghost
Cause I don't really like
What's the gay connect name?
Lobos?
What's up with Lobos, man?
That's your man.
Lobos is dead.
Yeah, he got killed.
That's what y'all say.
He's dead.
No, I know they announced it.
I know, I know, I know, I know.
Shot that nigga in his chest,
left him in the woods.
He ain't survived it.
They announced it.
I know.
He might pop back up, though.
Yeah, Lobos pop back up.
I'm not watching.
See? All right. They announced it I know He might pop back up though Yeah on the Walking Dead Lobos pop back up I'm not watching See Alright
Do we think
Bishop is dead
In juice
That's a good question
I think he fell on a pile of garbage
When Q dropped
They never showed him
That's what I'm saying
I don't think he died
I think Bishop is still alive man
Anyone that could shoot 15 times
From a six shooter
Yeah he might be alive That's what I'm saying I think Bishop fell on garbage man Fuck I Anyone that could shoot 15 times from a six-shooter, yeah, he might be alive.
That's what I'm saying.
I think Bishop fell in garbage, man.
Fuck, I had six bullets and shot at Q 15 times.
They should do a juice part, too.
No, they shouldn't.
No, remember they were supposed to and Soulja Boy was supposed to play.
That's why you got to leave him alone.
Yo, they shouldn't do a juice part, too.
But just that fast, I really like the Pac trailer.
I do, too.
I know we clowned Imani When he said it in the group chat
No only because I said
That's it
The trailer is supposed to have you
Feeling like the movie's going to go
Imani hit the group chat and said
I really like that trailer
Looks like the movie's going to be good
That was the point Imani
Of the trailer
Yeah
I'll take my prediction
I think it's going to be better than Notorious
Put that down
That won't be hard
I know
That was my bold prediction Notorious. Put that down. That won't be hard. I know.
That was my bold prediction.
Notorious wasn't terrible.
Yeah, it wasn't terrible.
Those pictures are just tricky, man, because you can't fit so much.
But, you know, you can only fit so much in that movie.
But I just hope that they just touch on certain shit that they need to touch on. I mean, that kid has spent his whole life trying to master Pac.
Gravy just is from Brooklyn And rapped
No but Gravy is still big
He did a phenomenal job
What movie is better
Notorious or Get Rich
Well I mean
They're not really comparable to me
I would say Notorious
I mean they're both
One had to stick to a storyline
Get Rich didn't
I would say Notorious
Is still a better movie though
Why did Notorious
Have to stick to a storyline
Because it was a biopic.
Yeah.
Get Rich is loosely based.
Very loosely based.
Some say the same
about Notorious.
I know it's supposed
to be a biopic
but y'all remember
it was mad people
beefing when that shit
was being shot.
People always say
accurate stories.
People can always say that.
But Get Rich has more
replay value to me than Notorious.
Joe Budden biopic coming soon.
Oh, God.
Our name is Fock Ass Later 107.
I'm gone.