The Joe Rogan Experience - #2233 - Scott Storch

Episode Date: November 22, 2024

Scott Storch is a multi-platinum, Grammy Award-winning record producer, songwriter, and entrepreneur, with over 50 billion streams and more than 100 million records sold worldwide. His new single "On My Own" featuring Abbie Stair is out now. https://open.spotify.com/album/2awsI47CHYE55cWPzYGPNf?si=WrGa9ueRSIuUFoRySm8hBw&nd=1&dlsi=96056a526c8d4a2c https://www.1217music.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Joe Rogan Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Those are the three I probably have most iconic. So what are the, we're rolling now, so tell me what's like the most iconic beats you've created. Oh, we're already rolling? We're rolling. Hey, fuck it. Hey. How you doing? Hey. You've created in your opinion. Oh, we're already rolling? We're rolling. Hey, fuck it. Hey!

How you doing? Hey! I mean, look, I've got not hundreds, but thousands of songs. Thousands, for sure. Thousands of songs. I'm told most often that most iconic or identifiable one is obviously still Dre. We got, give me a little of that real quick. Let's see.

["Dre's Lullaby"] Now if you watch my fingers while I'm playing that, if I was just like a fucking sterile like just basic motherfucker I'd be playing. But I wanted to do it like sloppy. Right. Like that perfect imperfection. Right. Like you don't want, sometimes you want a nice sloppy booty or a nice fucking, you know what sometimes you want a

nice sloppy booty or a nice you know what things always like perfect picture perfect right you like a little grit on your hardwood floor yeah yeah yeah no that's where you know that perfect imperfection how did you get started huh how did you get started making beats? What started you in music? What started me in music? Okay? All the way back all the way back all the way back Listening to like Ozzy Osbourne and cheap trick in the mirror with a Kenneth's racket Wow, I could probably get some girls to like me if I knew how to fucking play this shit and then my parents had like a

girls to like me if I knew how to fucking play this shit. And then my parents had like this upright piano in the house and it was a piece of furniture. And I had cassette, you know, at that time it was all about cassettes and I had the little baby cassette thing. I put it on the piano bench and figure out how to play all my favorite songs. Just self-taught.

Yeah, and you know I ended up taking three or four lessons and The guy was like you should just teach yourself Really? Yeah, like and my family didn't we didn't have no money like and my mom to get to the piano lesson all that shit was just I did my thing and like it's at a point where My mom and dad were like, can you go outside and play with the kids? I'm tired of hearing this shit.

No, no, no, no, no, no. And then that evolved into, I moved with my father, my parents had divorced. My dad was a court reporter, stenographer. And we moved from, I was born in New York, as an infant moved to Florida, but when I was 15 Just turning 15. I moved to Philly with my dad and

I Was really getting into music I was experiencing like hip-hop now in my head like what year was this? What year was how old I'm 50, okay seven years different than me, so yeah, okay. I'm real horrible with the years, but, talking early 90s. Yeah. Extremely early. The beginning of the big hip hop boom out of New York.

And when I first found a love for hip hop, it was this music that they were sampling all these like cool like Fender Rhodes sounds like like say Tribe Called Quest that's not one of mine but it was that like relax yourself girl you know that like native tongue the De La Soul, all that type of shit was heavy. And I was like, wow, music is really great in this. It was different than like, I mean, I loved NWA

and I loved like, but that was like hardcore shit. And then like this musical guru and jazz and like all this shit was coming around. So I got into that and I couldn't really afford a keyboard. I'm living in Philly. My dad was like, I was cutting school and going into the city from the burbs to like getting the music scene at this young age.

And it was like, yo, go back to school and start that shit or get the fuck out. He's trying to do me a favor with tough love, but I decided to get the fuck out. He was trying to do me a favor with tough love, but I decided to get the fuck out. At 15. And now I'm like couch hopping at homies and that led to moving into the fucking hood in West Philly with this guy who was an aspiring manager

that was a videographer that I met at my dad's court reporting firm. Kind of like halfway against my dad's will he took me in and we started hitting the pavement man and I joined the Roots. They were called the square roots at that time you know the band on Jimmy Charr, Questlove etc. And I didn't have much money and I bought what they call offender roads this is like big keyboard Which is they're very expensive now because it's a vintage But at that time I could get that for like 200 bucks And I got the keyboard a couple of broken notes on it and shit

And I just made my sound with that and it's just like this soulful This thing And um join the roots and now I'm a band member. You know, simultaneously I'm doing construction in Philly for a friend of mine who has like, these like, shell houses that I got to live in one for a while, and then I got my first place. I'm like, living in this thing.

He lived across the street, and kind of a nice one. This is like, super horrible neighborhood, but he's got almost like the whole block and like there's construction site on the first floor. I had to walk up and this was like semi-finished one, no electricity, but he ran a cord across the street and a power strip for my electricity. I ran everything on that one power strip.

Like I had a fucking a space heater like this because it was freezing cold. I had like a keyboard set up like so I could do my thing and that was just I made my existence. And wow, if I had never made it I was like man, I'll just play at bar mitzvahs and weddings and fucking call it a day. But I'd rather do that than be a court reporter or some other shit. And school wasn't for me. Couldn't focus on anything but the music. It always bums me out that there's so many people out there like that, that do have,

they have intelligence and ability, but the system just wants them to plug into normal jobs. You don't realize like, hey, there's other jobs out there. There's other things that you can do. It's not conventional. The path's not clear. You know, you want to get into music. You really fucking love music.

Get into music. Get into music. And nobody tells you that. Nobody tells you. And they don't tell you like, find your niche within music. Maybe you can do the actual music, but you can become a promoter or you can become, there's so many different niche within music. Yeah, maybe you can do the actual music but you can become a promoter or you can become there's so many different fields within music that you write if you're an expert if You have no talent and you have no business being in music

At least be honest with yourself because we know if we're good or not like right, you know, but what makes talent? What do you passion? It's no talent. Yeah, if you're a passionate person and you love something so much You're gonna end up being good at I think If you're doing it to get money or something else It's like it's questionable or you just want to be cool because you'd like music but if you're so Passionate about this shit that you're showing results and you're growing and you're seeing that you watch people's reactions I still do to this day.

I'm in the studio, I'm playing some shit. Like I have this like weird thing where I start receiving satellite and I'm like playing and I don't even know what the hell. Receiving satellite, so like the Muse. I'm not even there anymore. I'm just like all of a sudden I'm just doing this thing. I've been doing it for 30 years

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write that. He blacked out and it got written. Yeah always say that sometimes I write things, I'm like, I didn't really write that. That came from somewhere else. I didn't have any effort involved in this. It just came to me, like a gift from the gods. That's why they always call it the muse, because the people that were, you know, like Shakespeare and those people, they really did kind of feel like it was being given to them.

We all do though, right? But doesn't everybody kinda say that when they're being honest, like anybody who writes anything, whether they write literature, whether they write music, comedy, whatever. It flows through you. Yes.

If you have to work for it, it's contrived sort of like somewhat. Like if something doesn't come, I push myself, yes, because it's technical stuff that you have to, but that initial light bulb that goes off and just goes in that zone. Yeah, downloading satellite.

And the thing about it is it's so hard to control. It's just, it comes, it goes, it's there, it's not. What's that water you're drinking? What is this crazy thing? You know what? It's bag water. I'm gonna tell you what it is I get like

Inflammation I'm playing piano whatever like I sometimes get like a little bit like okay, and this is like hydrogen water Okay, and I fuck with a friend of mine my boy Adam like he's like listen. I think you should try my water He's invested in all kinds of things and he's just he's been my been one of my best friends my whole life. Guy Adam Linder, fuck, cool guy. I've been down and out and fucking dude would take me in. You know, we're both Michiganers, but he has this fucking water. Him and randomly enough, my boy who's a big songwriter, Pooh Bear, they're giving a go at this water thing.

But I like it, it's H-Factor water, dude. Yeah, I've heard of that stuff. It's really good. So when you say you're getting inflammation in your hands, like carpal tunnel type? Yeah, kinda like, yeah, sometimes things, like sometimes if it's cold and my hands are like freezing or something, I can't really like go in and like.

Do you have a UCBD? Huh? Do you have a UCBD or a turmeric? Your turmeric, yeah, like I do that stuff, stuff. I do like the little shots like. Yeah, you should do that stuff stuff. I do like the little shots like yeah, you should do all the time. Raw ginger. Yeah. Yeah. There's a place in LA that I like that I don't have it in my head is like my real tight with I don't know if you know Rick Solomon. He knows this thing

Sun Life and fucking they have great shit there. So I do that. Oh, the Sun Life place in in California? Yeah yeah yeah oh I do yeah. Yeah Rick is fucking he's been an inspiration to me and like you know everybody knows my story and you know he I look up to him because he was able to walk away from drugs right very easily and stay there. For me, I have a hard time with it. I still struggle. And like, it's not drugs, it's to put it bluntly, it's pussy and drugs together. Okay? It's a kelv of a combination and drug sex and all that shit. And like, you know, you get caught up in that wave and like, it starts glamorously in your career of doing drugs

and it just fucking, it just turns into something real ugly, so. So he walked away from me for a while, he was like, bro, you're fucking up again, da da da da, but I'm in a great place now, man. I got good people around me. And I smoke and, you know, I make my music and I chill these days man. That's great.

I've graduated. I was trying to tell you about your hands like if you're getting inflammation and you're taking hydrogen water like hydrogen water would be great but if you really want to cut it down what we were talking about earlier is the way to cut it down. Stop eating things that give you inflammation. That's the big one. That'll change everything. Yeah. Cut out all the sugar in the bread and you'll be amazed things that give you inflammation. That's the big one. That'll change everything. Cut out all the sugar in the bread

and you'll be amazed at how well you feel. Bread, I'm not really a sugar guy. Some people eat sweets and shit. Me, I'll go, lately, because I'm trying to lose a lot of weight, I've been eating fruit constantly. Fruit's great. And I feel so much better. Because I drink water until I'm blue in the face,

I'm not hydrated. I eat fruits and shit like that. I feel like it just sticks to your organs. And like, just a lot of watermelon. Watermelon's fantastic. I love watermelon and apples. Do you take any sort of electrolytes? I do, I I do I mean?

regularly I'm jader aid, but I'm just gonna help you with your gatorade, but there's other stuff I don't even know what it's called, but it's like a powder It's like supposed to be less like I mean and you just put it in the water It's like an accelerator hydration like liquid IV or something like that. Yeah, I don't even know There's a bunch of those that are really good But yeah, that's you know, you could you could take care of that Like obviously your fingers are still working, but if you're starting to feel like real discomfort, there's some things you could do

See BD is a big one. See BD helps so much my friend Dave Foley He had arthritis to the point where his hands were like totally croak and straighten his hands out He started taking CBD and it all went away. That's crazy. Yeah the benefits of It's incredible. It really is incredible. Yeah, the diet is a big one. I think I'm getting my fair share of CBD and from the we not just that not from the flower, but I like Edibles, but not like distillate. I know I'm into rosin edibles The the difference is a CBD you can isolate just the CBD and they can make it much higher concentrate. Oh really? Yeah, like I love this shit when I have muscle soreness is a CBD. I'm no affiliation CBD MD as this product called freeze

It's 3,000 milligrams CBD. It's a roll-on. It's a roll-on Yeah, it's fucking great. I love it, but they have great Gummies and oils and CBD is fantastic anytime you can eliminate inflammation in your life. That's good Yeah, whether it's your personal life or your body just inflammation. So many people tell me this wave of like sea moss. Sea moss? Yeah, like people like the benefits of. Are you hearing about sea moss, Jimmy? I've heard of it.

Yeah. Are you hearing about people eating it? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I haven't tried it, but. I'm a big believer in rib eyes. Yeah, rib eye.

Medium rare, little salt. Butterfly with a char. Yeah, I'm not really into your sea moss. No, I've never tried the shit, but everybody's like you should do sea moss. Most of that shit is starvation food. Really? Yeah, people eat it when they couldn't find fish. If you could find fish, you ate a fucking fish. Why would you eat that stupid moss? That's I think that's what most vegetables are most vegetables are starvation food Yeah, I think I fuck with salads I actually I thought it sounds but I do them I'm gonna put dressing on it and shit and like yeah destroys right So branch a little Caesar I just like oil and vinegar olive oil and vinegar is all I like on salads

But I like salads so I eat salads like I'm not like religious about it But I just I know that when I'm only eating like meat and steak and eggs, and I feel way better It's just like everything feels like it's in tune my brain works better my body feels more relaxed It's it's a tangible thing when I eat a lot of bullshit. I feel it dude. I met these Coming from like being a fuck in the middle of nowhere kid like not a rich kid not part of like some socialite type shit I I came up to like a certain level of people that was like pretty insane like Russian Multi-billionaires and hanging around with those cats fucking bizarre, but I must be weird because they'll get you killed Right it could happen. Yeah, but like I'm hanging out with this one guy who's I one of the richest men in the world

And we're eating borscht. He's like scotty You should eat soup every day is good. I know what I'm telling you. I'm like, okay I eat a lot of soup It's good soup is veg best basically vegetable. Do you like the hot broth and shit? Yeah, that is super good for you live longer, bro. I used to live in Los Angeles I used to go to Jerry's famous deli and Jerry's and get their chicken noodle soup. They had No chives though, I tell them. Do they put chives in it normally? Jerry's does, yeah.

But I like- Not in a chives guy? I like dill. Dill? Dill, yeah. I got like a Russian nanny and different things like that that work for me. And they put that fresh dill in, oh my god, and that just changes everything. That's like mama never made.

If you think about how cold rush is, of course they make a good soup. Anywhere that's cold is gonna make a good soup. You don't hear like soup from Texas. No. Right? You hear chili. You don't hear soup.

You don't hear about their soup. Queso. Queso? That's kinda soup. I had the butternut squash soup where you put me at last night at this four seasons It was good, but it's not like it's not my favorite. It's basically vegetable. Yeah, that's where you're drinking hot vegetable juice But of course like good for table cream all of it. Oh that kind of stuff where they make a little the white swirls on Top like it's a latte. Yeah fancy. Yeah

very fancy Scott So yeah music we we started talking about how my music career evolved. Pop time, Mike. So earlier we were talking about where did it start, and I went all the way back. So now I'm hanging with this guy, Richard know the videographer I was saying that might that I met in my dad's office he took me and started making an attempt to Be professionalized myself as a musician

Join the roots. We got a record deal and I Loved it, you know, I was now like a very like lucky guy to be involved in something cool, but I was bringing something real major to the table within the group. And I just felt like after a while, I wasn't appreciated. And I was just going to be remembered as the guy who played keys for the Roots. And I wanted more than that. I left the group for a multitude of reasons. Some I usually don't talk about, but like I, you know, boohoo, I felt some reverse racism.

I know that people have dealt with shit, like fucked up shit, but I was just like kind of mortified once I'm on a stage and I just remember I'm performing with The Roots in New York, this event called the Black Lily, and playing the keyboards, backing everybody up, and this and that, and somebody was rapping. Da-da-da-da-da. They pointed me. The White Devil. Something else just like, uh,

what the fuck is happening here? Were they serious? Or were they joking around? No, no, it was fucked up shit, bro. It really hurt me because I'm like, I don't see color, I don't see any of that shit. I'm the most, like, just coolest motherfucker in that aspect. Like, to me, racism bothers me.

But it was like, you know, my family now were not representing for me, and let that happen, and then just combined with- So someone on the stage said that? Yes, one of the rappers, I'm not gonna say names, but just, I had shit was just like, how is this happening right now? God damn.

And you know, I felt like all the credit and for all the like big melodies and stuff that I was creating for the group was just being swept under the rug. And like, I said, I gotta leave this group. And I'm dating this girl at the time who was like urging me not to, she was saying you're gonna be the Pete Best of the Roots.

You know who Pete Best is? Yeah, the beetle. He left the Beatles in. So she was like, you're gonna be the Pete Best of the Roots. I was like, that's cool. She actually dumped me. And I continued on my journey attempting to be a music producer and not join bands. And I met this guy through the whole process of being in the roots. His

name was Derek Jackson. And he and I he embraced me into you know, you're so talented, like, let's give it a go. And we would take these trips from Philly to New York and just go to every A&R, every fucking label, trying people that contacts that this guy, Derek had in New York, he was from New York. You know, like he would just use them. And then the first week we were doing that, we got a couple of bites.

And one was my first client was Busta Rhymes Wow, who's I'll never forget it Busta like believe me. It's like I and I went to the studio We made a record one shot one kill, baby. That's how it is. Like you get one shot You know, it's not like and we made blot out which was uh on his album anarchy and We also got that same week. Maybe three days later We made Blot Out, which was on his album, Anarchy. And we also got that same week, maybe three days later, Capone and Noriega, and CNN, the album. Noriega's got his whole world in podcasts now.

He's proud of that guy, great guy. But they believed in me. And the day I went in, I'll never forget it. Capone, whose partner, was coming home from jail that day. And the theme of the day was, I guess he got him some girls and on the way to the studio to come work. And now he's like, all day he kept saying,

it's nothing, it's nothing to come home from jail with these girls in your limousine and come work with me and Scotty and this and that It was just amazing day. We made music We made like three and then I was off to the races man. I was making music Wow and a whole bunch of cool stuff in between there and then Still ain't make no money, but I'm now like doing shit Is that you? Yeah, let me shut this off.

Isn't it funny that that fear of like the Pete Best type thing that's such a real thing? In the beginning you don't have any idea what your future is going to be. Like did I? Like I would see shit on them. Yeah. Like they're appearing here or they're doing this and that and be like fuck but what did I do? Right.

I held in there and then I'm always, a lot of people say this, but I'm a fuckin', very harmonious person. I always do good for everybody. I never like, you can accuse me of being a lot of things, but being an asshole, I'm not. So when I was in my first trip to LA, all right, I went to LA to perform and I did this open mic at the Martini Lounge.

It was my first time ever going to California and it was like, it was a Roots event. I wasn't in the group anymore, but like, whatever I had to do, I was gonna make a few hundred bucks to go play background on this thing. It wasn't the Roots, it was like an open mic with random people coming and this and that. So I did this thing and who do I see come up to me

but a chick I knew from Philly and she was like, storage, whatever, whatever. She's like, you're not gonna believe this but I signed a record deal with Dr. Dre in Aftermath. And I was like, wow, that's crazy. So she's like, I'm gonna hook you up with Dre. You were always fucking good to me in Philly, and you never tried to smash.

You let me go in the studio, and we did cool stuff together. And it was a platonic thing. She was my homegirl. And sure enough, I go and I meet up with Dre. I'm waiting for him to come out. I'm in the lobby, like nervous as hell. I don't have anything to play for him. I have my fingers, that's about it.

And I go into a room and he sits me down and he's like, I heard you good at them keys. I start playing for him and this and that. He's real quiet and just like listening. I'm like, ah, nothing's coming from this. I'm gonna go home sad today. He leaves the room. I'm still sitting in there.

I'm like, I don't know if I should be just leaving or I'm supposed to stay in here. And this dude, Larry Chapman, is like one of his like head dudes comes back in, says, Dre wants you to stay here for a long time. You get your hotel and here's some money Really okay, and she wants you to stay here for a long time Dre wants you here man, like you can stay cuz I was gonna get on a plane back to Philly that night Hmm, and I remember I went back

I was gonna get on a plane back to Philly that night. And I remember I went back to the hotel, I got more of my shit, and now I'm being switched to like a fancy hotel. And I'm like chilling and I got some money. I went and rented a fucking five series VMW. And I was like, wow, I am in LA for the first time. I have money, I just met Dre. I'm about to make a fucking album with Dr. Dre.

The next day I go to the studio, I meet up with Dre. And he's telling me all kinds of cool shit, man. Like, he accepted me into his world. Like, it was like such a, it was surreal, bro. It was surreal. Dre wants you to stay for a long time. I got this, he's telling me I got this rapper that is really talented, I believe in him,

da da da da da, he's a white boy and this and that, and in walks Eminem. Wow. And like, he let me finish up some record that he was doing with him, it was like one of Em's first releases at Just the Two of Us, you know what I'm talking about? And I played a little keys on that,

a little bit of the next day, me and Dre went in to work on his project and we made big egos Which made it so that's like that one shot one kill thing like that first day worked out It led to me being Along Dre's you know side and in his camp for a very long time But there's just a handful of dudes like you out there in the world that I call like a musical Magician, you know, there's there's people that people call upon, you know, like you gotta get storage I'm a producer producer right? But what is that? Like what separates you from other musicians that makes you this?

savant Do you think about it or would that take away the magic? Bro I can barely tie my shoelaces Savant. Do you think about it or would that take away the magic? Bro, I can barely tie my shoelaces. Right, but you know how to bang out some beats. I got this shit. Right. I was telling you about that Russian oligarch, okay?

He looked at me one time and he says, Scotty, you're not playing this keyboard. You're fucking the piano. Like, I don't know what you're doing with your... It's raw. I'm not an educated guy, but I have rhythm on some different shit, like Bob James, your boys, the Black Keys. Love those guys.

Look, not to jump around too much, but working with them was the first time I feel like I did anything good. I can't explain it. I have all these hits, like the Candy Shop, Do This, That, Beyonce, every single, I feel like the first time I really got into it on some real, touch the culture real shit,

not what people like trap music and dumb shit like that. This is like the real as it gets. And I got to use these vintage keyboards. I'm playing shit with a wah-wah pedal on a keyboard and going crazy. If you look at my Instagram sometime, you'll see some of the shit that I'm doing. Their studio-

I do, I watch it all the time. Their studio is insane, man. And those toys, I was really tapping in. Really? Yeah, it was so much fun. But, I just love those two guys. They're just, and they're so fucking talented, man. We saw them out here at Stubbs.

Yeah. Fuck, it was so fun, man. Yeah, man. And something about Nashville is a great place to make music, man. Well, think about how much great music has come out of there and then the memory of that shit is burned into the city Yeah, I believe in that I believe that places have memory. Mm-hmm. You know, I've really do Yeah, I think there's a there's an element. I mean, it's not everything about a place, but I think places have memory

You know, I think that a place like Nashville I mean and also it's small enough because it's because it's kind of a tight community Everybody kind of knows everybody there's so many musicians there Kid Rocks their black keys. Yeah Yeah, I read it with the UFC this kid rocks my favorite fucking thing of all time is going to his giant track of land in Nashville and seeing his fucking White House. I yeah, like with the rotating dining room and the fucking crazy son of a He's out of his mind. He did well, man. Yeah, he was one of I know I met him I met him he used to come up to the studio when we were making the chronic album, which right I think it was like It was like visiting I think with a

Lot with Eminem. I don't know if he was doing some other stuff, but he was there quite a bit. He was a cool guy, man. Yeah, he's always at the UFC with Trump. It's weird, because Trump comes into American Badass, the crowd goes nuts when they know he's there, and then kid rocks behind him.

It's like the Republican Avengers. Dude, I performed at Mar-a-Lago not long ago. No way! Yeah, I jammed out. I did a Blacks for Trump thing and it was cool, man. Jeff Dye was telling me he's done stand-up at Mar-a-Lago. How crazy is that? Yeah, that's a fucking, he's a genius.

He got a sick operation over there. Mar-a-Lago is insane, bro. I need to check it out. We thought about doing a, we do this podcast called Protect Our Parks with Shane Gillis, Ari Shaffir, and Mark Normans. Crazy part, we get hammered and drink a beer at all. Like this giant Freedom Bong, it's like an eagle's asshole

you're drinking the beer at. And we talked about doing one from Mar-a-Lago. We might do that still. That's cool. I'm supposed to go there, I think I'm gonna go there for us on the 13th, They're doing some kind of event like Roaring 20s vibe dinner and then like a whole weekend of roaring 20s like it's like you wear the outfits I'm not gonna but like bro. I wear one of them outfits

They wear was like a roaring 20s outfit suit suit. I would imagine that's like double-breasted Yeah, like the peaky blinders with those dudes were yeah What do they wear the 20s the Shelby zoot suits man? Really where Roaring 20s men Oh Yeah, oh that looks slick those hats look at they all wore hats and that crazy. I know shit going on and that crazy that like

Nice hats just went away. We were talking about that the other day we were watching an old-school fight with Jack Johnson and Every man on the street like waiting in line for the fight all the people in the audience for the fight all of them had Fancy hats on men used to just wear fancy hats Something happened fancy hats just fell apart Like if you were in the fancy hat business in 1920 be like bro. We got it forever Yeah, fancy hats ain't going away, but fancy hats completely fucking what if you were a couple companies A friend of mine was wearing a hat. You know this hat's like four credit

I'm like it's like some fancy company that I'm sure this company's but it's not like they I'm like, it's like some fancy company that I'm sure this companies but it's not like they Have everybody buys baseball hats, you know, but fancy hats They just went away if you would ask those fancy hat people Do you think one day the president will be wearing a baseball hat or a fancy hat? They'd be like a fancy hat He's the fucking president. Nope It's crazy. You know what? Fancy hats just fell out of style.

Yeah, I think, um... You can't bring it back either. It's become a much more casual world, I believe. And it's like, I mean, sometimes I always bitch like, ah, people knew how to dress. When we used to go out, I would put on a sport coat and wear, you know. But like, at the end of the day, like, I get it. It's all bullshit.

It's all bullshit. It's nice to dress up sometimes. Sometimes. It's a pain in the ass sometimes. Yeah, it's a pain in the ass. Lately I've just been changing my whole fashion ways. Like a friend of mine said something. He's like, even though I have nice things,

he's like, you don't need a Ferrari, be the Ferrari. When you walk in a room, you're on South Beach and all these fucking guys that barely have a pot to piss in are getting out of the Lambo and the fucking valet and iced out and shit. I'm the king of that shit. I was filthy rich and did all that shit, and I might as well have just landed a fucking spaceship

on top of the club. I was doing everything, but lately it turns me off. I look at myself and I feel like, I feel like a poser. I feel like the richest guy in the room is wearing a fucking bare bones, no diamonds type shit. Well look at Elon Musk. Dude wears Occupy Mars t-shirts. Doesn't even know what to watch.

Yep. So that's the thing. Just hanging. That's where I'm at. I think what happens is in the beginning, you want everybody to know you're doing well So you have all your stuff on you dress real nice, you know, like wow Scott's looks good. He looks sharp But then when you're undeniable you reach a point in your life where you just like what am I who am I doing this for? This is stupid if you're like me and you have a point in your life where you had a hundred million dollars

And you were trying to impress everybody and you have a point in your life where you had a hundred million dollars and You were trying to impress everybody and you fucking didn't have any respect for buddy Like my financial manager walked away from me back and they said you're unmanageable Why you going crazy going out spending so much money, but look you're still here. Yeah, I had a good time But you had a good time when you lose everything. Yeah You want to like fake it and be like, oh, no, I still got it. And I'm the guy with the most obnoxious set of diamonds. They're broke as shit. Because I just wanted to look the part.

My ego wouldn't let me be like, oh, that's shit. That's a negative feedback loop. Because that doesn't feed into art either. It's the opposite. It doesn't. I had to get rid of all of that. I had to really take it back to nothing. I don't care about labels and shit

I like nice things look Not I don't like have to do the pull-up on the club But look there's nothing wrong with a fucking 9-eleven like it's just a great car like yeah, there's amazing engineering anything Yeah, I do it for me now like whatever I do and I'm just like I'm really getting into my music. I'm getting into a lot of things. I Appreciate both things. I appreciate people who dress real nice and I appreciate people who don't give a fuck I think there's a place for every medium. Yeah, and then the stuff stuff is not life Life is not your stuff. No, but some stuff is fucking cool. Hell. Yeah, like cat Williams when he was here

He wasn't even living here or staying here and somehow or another he got an electric Rolls Royce So he's here. He's here for a day to do a show and wasn't he doing a show somewhere else or something like an arena somewhere? But one of things he said he said when you're sitting in this car, you know where you spent your money Yeah, because it's like it's you you go, oh, I know why this is $600,000. Look how fucking amazing this thing is. No, yeah. Lights on the ceiling. I love nice things.

I just like them for different reasons. Right. You don't like them for showing off. You like them because you like them because they're awesome. There's nothing wrong with luxury. Yes. There's nothing wrong with luxury. If you work hard.

But the problem is you trying to show everybody your luxury instead of just enjoying it. Like, look at my car. Or prioritizing it before your children or before things that you like. Before anything. Before anything. Before food. Yeah. It shouldn't come before anything.

It should be just a fun thing. And when you get to a level of success that you're at, if you don't figure that out, that's when it's the the saddest when someone makes a ton of money and doesn't go. Oh, it's not about the things It's about the relationships that I have it's about my friends. It's about my loved ones my family It's about the people that I work with it's about everybody having a good time It's about let's all get together and break bread and eat and hug each other and tell each other We love each other and do great work and have a good time and just enjoy this life experience. That's the thing That's the thing the car is just like

Yeah, you pull up in a cool car People have to offer in there like life and like they think that that is great Well, you know that the problem is that's seemingly the most unattainable thing when you're broke and you see some Guy pulls up in a brand new 9-eleven. You're like what the fuck this is yours. It's mind-blowing Yeah, I have Bugatti's and all kinds of shit. I mean I had everything I won for the best car collection on fucking MTV Cribs I had like 26 cars bro. If you name I had like ten million dollar cars Wow, like crazy shit like I'm an idiot but at any rate

Yeah, but those are fun, too. Yeah afford it. No. Yeah, but I lived a billionaire's life as a millionaire I had a hundred million. I thought I said a hundred billion in my account. I thought there was an extra zero, but recently I Met a guy You he just met Kevin. Kevin is a fucking like, just a great person. I had met him years and years ago. He was the head of security for 50 Cent. And when he brought 50 to my house to do the candy shop. Okay, and that's when I met him.

I lost touch with him for so many years and just, you know, not so long ago just remet him at the studio. This guy, BB at Circle House said, yo, I got you, you got this guy wants to, you've met him before, but he wants to meet you. He's now the owner of the Platinum Security Group, which is like one of the largest corporate security companies

in the nation. Like, this guy owns so much real estate, he owns half a Boca Raton. He's like a major freaking guy. And he like, we started, he wanted to initially hire me to do some music for some artists that he had a record label. And we ended up partnering on that record label and partnering on these different type things that we're doing, projects and shit that we're doing. And he is like, yo, first of all,

you need to get the fuck out of Miami and I want you to move an hour north to Boca so you can focus and really make the music and stop worrying about, because Miami like starts slipping into my old ways, and girls are everyday, it's show up, and it's a cesspool, bro, and it's so much fun, and it's so fucked up, and there's so much ass,

and there's so much drugs, and there's so much everything, and it's like, fuck that. You should have to have a passport to go to Miami. That is not America, that's a new thing, that's a new thing, Miami's wild. It's good to go there Yeah, to fucking be there but like energy in that but our down the road is beautiful waterfront living right Normalcy and just far enough to where the you get the garbage is not gonna like right hit you every day

You can get there if you want. Yeah, but yeah, you're outside That's what he's like from the outside move the outside. Move up here. Since I did that, and followed his lead, so many great things are happening. Yeah. Even just like unlocking, you know, you block your blessings. Like I was blocking my blessings and now they're starting to come. I'm here with you talking and telling my story and like, like things like that are happening, great things. I have an artist that I'm working on. I have my album. I decided, you know how Khaled makes albums, he's got all these different people.

And I'm like, you know what, I've made my whole life of this making hit records for labels and for their artists. Why not develop artists and do my own album and use some of those artists for my projects and yeah, I'm putting out a slew of singles. This girl Abby Stare that Kevin introduced me to is like so amazing. I think there might be a picture somewhere

that I was told like, because I'm using her for my single for my first single like even though you know we're gonna be developing her album and but I'm doing my single featuring her and then a whole bunch of other ones that I'm gonna be putting out I have one with Young Blue and I have tons of singles but we have this song and yeah, I'm excited, man. I'm doing the things I always wanted to do. I'm taking full on initiative now. And you think moving an hour outside Miami was a big part of that?

I think yeah, in order to just- Balance. Yeah, balance myself. You need balance, man. You need to be able to go hard, but you need to be able to recover, relax, and focus. You need privacy, you need solitude. You need to be able to go hard, but you need to be able to recover relax and focus You need privacy you need Solitude so you could think everybody needs that you need balance in your life

If you don't you just go you lean in one direction you want it's like it's like your body You only work out your biceps your fucking your hips are gonna go something's gonna go wrong You're gonna fuck your body up with imbalance You're gonna fuck your life up with imbalance everything needs're gonna fuck your life up with imbalance. Everything needs some sort of a balance, and everybody's balance is different. You know, for a guy like you, who goes, hard, you probably should get the fuck out of Miami. You probably should be living in Boca.

Right. With all the quiet people. Yep, and I'm loving it. If I need to go to Miami, I'm going to go to Miami. One hour. One hour. How hard is that? I love Florida. This is a fucking crazy ass place. It is a crazy ass place filled with reptiles. Yeah. And they literally were walking around on your dock. And there's so many iguanas like giant iguanas falling out of

trees when it gets cold out. It's just such a fucked up place. But it's so fun. There's so many good things. And during the pandemic, I think people started to really appreciate Florida. So many people moved down there and they're like, hey, you can just live here. You don't have to just be under the tyrannical control of the government. Look, the Northeast was a great place as a young guy to build strength and the changing of the season, scraping the ice off your fucking windshield, and just learning about being a man,

wearing Timberland boots because you're fucking freezing cold. And I think every young person should have to experience that. 100%. Not just like sunshine. I grew up in Boston, and it's cold as fuck in the winter when when I was a kid

We made money by shoveling snow and that you know That's back breaking fucking work shoveling long steep driveways and shit for a hundred bucks Yeah, you know But if you could do that and do that all the time like you build resolve you're out there freezing your hands are numb You know, we play outside in the snow your fucking hands would go now you come in you can't feel your feet Makes you stronger. It makes you stronger scraping the ice off your windshield before you go to work Salted in this fucking the walk I feel bad for people that don't grow up in those environments because I really think it gives you a little extra edge and those

Changing of seasons. Yeah feelings, different moods. All my favorite comedians for the most, well, that's not true. I was gonna say that, but then Kinnison. He was from Texas. Sam. Yeah. But that was different. That dude was, that's a different thing.

I always think about back to school. I think about Sam Kinnison, I don't know why, but mine just goes right there. Was he right? Was he right? I was there! That dude is awesome. Yeah, he was awesome awesome I have an appreciation for film I have appreciation for comedians like I like Really like I grew up like I was buying like Richard Pryor albums as a kid Eddie Murphy albums

And you know I spent a lot of times I became good friends with Mike Epps I came a lot of comedians comedians are tortured souls you guys like I think a lot of like that whole comedy tragedy thing is like very serious Well, there's some of many that many yeah, there's something to that, but it's You just got to figure out how to balance it like we were talking about before for me I balance it out with exercise exercise and saunas and cold plunges and yoga and shit like that That's how I balance it out. That's I keep my mind straight Yeah, but if I didn't I would be spiraling just like all of them. I think you

You need something in your life. That's more difficult than your life Something that you do that you choose to do that's more difficult than regular life? Because then it makes regular life way more manageable. Well, it's kind of cool. I'm 50, and I'm inspired like when I was in my early 20s and just doing the music. And it's like, sometimes I get reminded of the fact, when you try to keep up, there's a session, and you're gonna have to go meet little baby

at three in the morning. It's like, okay, fucking. I just do it. I just have to compensate for it. I could have just went for days back in the day without drugs. You know what I'm saying? And like, now it's like, all right,

I'm gonna sleep real late cause I'm gonna have to go at three o'clock in the morning. So is that like a standard thing? Like when rappers come in and wanna work with you, do they generally wanna work late at night? Rappers? Yeah. Yes.

They all wanna work late at night. And my biggest problem is, I know, I can't always tell them that, like sometimes you should just send them CDs and shit, but I know when you get in a room and you make some shit right there on the spot for somebody and you're feeling their energy, I should just send them CDs and shit, but I know when you get in a room and you make some shit right there on the spot for somebody and you're feeling their energy, that's when the best records happen.

Like, these dudes, like, a lot of dudes are not, like, with it, but there's some are. That's the extra magic, right? Yeah, I think the best artists want that. The ones that aren't really artists, they just want some bullshit to rap on, some more bullshit. But it's it's there's something you're exchanging something as human beings, right? You're you're with that person you're experiencing them. They're experiencing you the music the song everything together the lyrics There's that's a human experience. That's why I like I refuse to do zoom podcasts

Like some people in other countries they wanted to be on a screen and just sit in the living room. You gotta fly here, bro. You gotta be in the room. I'll give you a perfect example. I got a call a week ago, FaceTime, and it was J. Cole was sitting on my phone. And I was chilling, I was like, oh shit, it Cole and um he says he says he says yo Storch I figured out a way and I can harness that Storch thing you're in Florida I'm flying there so I'm gonna

come going home from this tomorrow he's gonna be there the next day we're gonna be working at a hit factory, but he gets it like. We were just listening to neighbors in the green room last night. We were all going, motherfucker I am. Yeah. I'm excited. I'm excited when somebody wants to get in the room

and they have an idea of like what they feel like out of the Scott Storch bag of tricks. Like they wanna like harness or encompass it. Well, you're also a guy that like, you find out you're working with Scott Storch bag of tricks. Like they want to like harness or encompass it. Well, you're also a guy that like you find out you're working with Scott Storch that day, everybody gets fired up. So there's like a feat because you've had so much success that there's this like excitement about you and you're in the room and that creates like additional like inspiration. I think by all clients, clients because if somebody's gonna be in a room when I'm not there and they're like,

this is the one Scott Storch did, that shit had better. If I like the artist or I don't, whatever the hell it is, they have to be like, yo, that beat is fucking flames. So I give my all to shit and for some reason, man, like I said, this is one of the few things I can just do over and over again. I do it good. I give results.

Nothing always sounds the same if somehow I manage to pull it off. And it's like, I just remember Dr. Dre telling me, yo, because his work ethic is crazy. He says, you don't have to be on every day, just most days. And it stuck with me. And I was like, yeah man,

you gotta be known for being the guy that hit home runs almost every time. Not every time, but almost every time. But when you're dealing with something that involves creativity, it can't be every day. It's not possible. You're asking too much of the muse. Yeah.

But that's also the problem with being a workaholic. You're going hard all the time. You're constantly working and you're gonna have your hits is and you're gonna have your misses and that's just a part of the process I go hard with everything that I do whether it be a bad thing or a good thing Yeah, like I most people do I got like, you know the same energy I give to that To the music and shit. I was given to the wrong things for a while. A good friend of mine, we were talking about a buddy of ours that died, he died from pills.

And he was super clean, he was a professional pool player. Like a really world-class pool player. Super clean, never did anything, never drank, never smoked. Got in a car accident, fucked his back up. Started getting on pills. And pain pills, to him, pills and pain pills to him. He chased the pain pills the way he chased being the best in the world at pool. The same thing that got him to be a wizard at playing pool, that same

obsession for him, that state, same obsession got wrapped up in the pills and he died. He died young. And we were talking about him like that is what it is. That's, that's where obsession and addiction cross paths one can serve you one can ruin you and they're they're the same energy It's just how you channel the fire You could channel the fire to wood and cook your food or you can channel it to your house and now you're fucked Like where do you put the fire? How do you how do you direct it?

And if you direct it the right way you can have an amazing life and do all kinds of cool shit and have a great time and meet cool people and have a fun life. Or you can do it the wrong way and just be on Skid Row. Covered in scabs. It's hard to balance sometimes things that are take over your soul, like pills and shit like that. Later I wanna talk to you about,

I got into the business business of rehab not for money I got into the business of rehab to help people but but that's later Honestly like I got my whole life Was just all music music music. I loved music I loved going in my fucking car and just listening to the things I love like music I love music of the 70s and I love Marvin Gaye. I like all his fucking incredible music.

Earth Wind and Fires and this, that. I just, that's where it all comes from. So I based my music on the past 50 years of music, 100 years of music. And I was doing good. I smoked pounds of weed, made my music, lived a very healthy life and became very rich. I was in a bubble for so long that one day I'm living in a house that Ivanka Trump recently

just bought. It was my house on Indian Creek Island, which I owned outright. I bought the fucking house for cash from the widow of the founder of Southern Wine and Spirits. And I bought this house, it was fucking massive topiary gardens and incredible thing, I was living a healthy life. And I wasn't in my mind like cool,

but I was like happy, I was cool. That was as cool as it gets because I was balanced and healthy and doing but I was like happy. I was cool, that was as cool as it gets because I was balanced and healthy and doing what I love to do. But I felt like I was yearning for something bad or I don't know what I was yearning for, but this girl ended up showing up at my doorstep, very famous girl.

And look, I'm not playing the game they blame game or anything but it's just a course of events happen Paris Hilton shows up at my door initially to work on music and we ended up connecting and I learned this whole new way of life like with paparazzi's and being like next to her and then excuse me inevitably hook it up with her and we're next to her and then, excuse me, inevitably hooking up with her and we're now an item and shit and we're, you know, kind of like, we're having tons of fun, we're good friends, but I think we're both using each other in a certain way, like where I'm like, like so excited to be next to this girl who's like the coolest most famous girl in the world

she's like my girl and like she's next to a few her passions at that time music and she was like next to me who I'm the number one music producer in the world time and It went on and then inevitably the nightlife led to fucking cocaine and and then inevitably the nightlife led to fucking cocaine. And that. No, no, no, no. No, no. She don't lie, she don't lie.

No, no, no, no. First year and a half going here on Plains and Saint Tropez and Saint Bards and the flyest shit you could do and flyest, the best fucking coke and all that shit just having a blast and then it just goes bad and then it's just like you have relations out you've seen the movie blow oh yeah you've seen how hot Penelope

Cruz oh yeah and do we're like in the beginning into each other just comes course on like there's no happy ending your foundation gets rotted out under you. Yeah, and like my a-list life Was like, you know was born there and like I was now like in that situation and Kim Kardashian and all these different things and like she wasn't even famous at that point But like, you know, she's cool man man she's always been a great person and like I gained a lot of respect for her when she started working for criminal and prison reform yeah that's just shows like she's that's just from the heart too advocacy for people that are

wrongfully accused yeah man she's done a lot of good things she's that lady's gotten a lot of people out of jail yeah I look as long as I've known Kim she's never been anything but just I look as long as I've known Kim she's never been anything but just a Super sweet person and that's awesome. I met her before the fame like I we dated before the fame and you know, I just I Was a hot mess like I was the fucked up one when we were together like I just was not focused I was just thinking about Strippers and drugs and this and that it that. I was still on a high level, but I was living a fucked up life.

I had a session. Now I moved to Palm Island from Indian Creek because everything I was doing, I was trying to impress Paris. And I knew that everybody wanted to be on Star Island and Palm Island and it was close to the party. South Beach was, it was South Beach, South Beach. Didn't know that where I was living already

was the Big Daddy, like those houses, you have to be, everybody's there, like Bezos, everybody's there now, like where I was, I moved to this house on Palm Island. I go from a 90 foot yacht to a much bigger yacht, I take these leaps just trying to impress her and just blow her mind, even though she didn't need that. But I was doing it.

Yeah, it was all some weird mental thing I felt like. A lot of people get caught in that spiral when they start making money. I didn't want to be famous. I wanted to be the most famous. I wanted to be the biggest boss, not just a boss. I had to be that guy. Boy.

And when I lost everything it was like It's bad news and I had Janet Jackson At my house to do a session pre or post nipple at the Super Bowl. I don't remember the nipples But I remember this sweet cool lady when I met Janet I was told to not even like really like her, more like talk to somebody. It was like, for real? Yeah, it was like, pass your message and tell this person that they're gonna relay it,

even in the same room, to the point where within a few hours. You're collaborating with music? Just for the first few minutes this happened. And then, dude, we became homies. It was immediate. I was like, fuck that. Well, sometimes it's the handlers that fuck things up. The handlers. I've seen people, they give themselves extra importance

by like saying, if you want to talk to her, you have to talk to me first. Yeah, like, yeah. Like, creating a drool for themselves. And creating like a little bit of insecurity on your part, too. Like, don't address Miss Jackson. Right. Address me. I'll address Mrs. Jackson.

And probably she might not even know about all that. By the end of the day, I was like, I was smoking my weed, she was like, I was telling her about the different kinds I had and these New York plastic jars and this and that, like just cool as hell, but flash forward to now she's coming to to Palm Island to work I left her at my house for like seven or eight hours

Because I wanted to go to the gold rush and go get some blow and hang out with strippers. It was just like Are you fucking serious like you're really gonna do that? Like you don't see it at the time because out of your fucking mind. You're out of your fucking out of my mind Yeah, out of my tips It's just so much to things like that when you have so much money and you have power and fame it's like you have too much possibility yeah there's too many things that can entice you and if you're doing blow and going to strip clubs all the time it's just like more titties in my face please yeah let's keep doing it

let's keep partying let's stay selfish it's yeah and it's and you're not thinking about it because you're are you saying, good fellas? Ah, your brain's going to mush. It's imbalanced. It's true. It's imbalanced. It's like what we're talking about. You need a balance.

The A-list parties turn to B-list parties, the B-list turns to C-list, C-list turns to fucking street urchins. You know what I mean? I've had some fucking funny moments, though. Like, I remember having a party. It was like a Super Bowl party. I had like seven or 800 people at my house

and like everybody's like fizzling out. It's now like nine in the morning, 10 in the morning. I think Snoop was there, Mike Epps was there. Different people were hanging out, lingering, chilling like family, people. Now it's like friends and shit. And like there's a knock on my door at like 10 a.m. And it's Pamela Anderson.

And that shit was the funniest shit. In my house, living with me at that time was one of my favorite people. And I knew he was upstairs, like sleeping or whatever. My good friend DMX, God Rest His Soul, and Pamela was showing up, and I was like, yo, X, yo, X, check this out. I was all geeked out and like so,

I think it is so funny that I got Pamela coming to my house at 10 in the morning, and he comes over the railing of my house, and he's like, looks over, he's like, Baywatch, and then he just walked back away, he walked back in the fucking thing, okay. X was like, X was living with me, man, and like, it was like the blind leading the blind. I'm a coke addict and he's a crack addict,

and I'm like trying to help him. I'm like, man, you really need to get clean, man. Like, what the fuck is really, yeah. So I'm like, yo, you need need to get clean, man. Like, what the fuck is really? Yeah, so I'm like, yo, you need to go to rehab. I'm like, so I get him, I convince him like, to avoid like a jail sentencing for something, a charge that he had, whatever. He went to rehab and like, was getting his shit together.

The place that I had gone that didn't really work for me, but I had him there, I really did care about him, I wanted him off that shit, whatever, that was like a worse evil or a faster suicide than I was even on. And he ran out of the place, I got a call from him, the place was directly across the street from the Hard Rock in Hollywood, Florida,

and he calls me, he's like, yo, what's up? I'm like, how are you calling me? You don't have phone privileges like that in this place. He's like, I'm across the street from the rehab at the Hard Rock with one of the nurses. And I'm like, oh my, are you fucking kidding me? I was like, yo X, cover yourself up, come back to my house, I'm gonna talk to these people, get you back in.

And he wouldn't let him back in, it was a real tough motherfucker to own this place. And he ended up, because it was court ordered, he had to go away. I'm at the Montreal one morning, a couple of days later, and my security is like, yo dog, there's 50 federal agents here, woo woo woo, like crazy shit, bro.

It was like, I couldn't believe it, I felt horrible. And then you flash forward to not so long ago I was heavily involved in a rehab center in California at Studio City where we used cannabis for healing and it came to my attention that he was on his last legs. X was in bad shape. So I was able to make a meeting happen. My partner, Steve LaBelle, I don't know if you know who Steve LaBelle is, managed Bone Thugs and Harmony and all these people,

like real legend. We were partners on this place and we had X come in, he had emphysema, he was one rock away from death, like, you know, that kind of thing. So we convinced him, we put him on a private plane to Washington to do a detox. He went. He went through the whole detox and his plan was to leave the detox and come to our facility inpatient and do rehab. He never made it back on the plane to head back and we never saw him again. I was me trying to save a man's life and I really loved, man.

He was like such a special guy. Such a special performer. One of the greatest ever to do it. Oh, without a doubt. Without a doubt. The power that that guy had in his voice. It was amazing. But wild people make wild shit.

I'm one of them. Sometimes you can't control it. You can't calculate. Yeah, I mean, going back to Kinnison, I mean, I just did him in. I mean, he died in a car accident But I mean his he was falling apart because it was all cocaine cocaine and drinking and The wildest of the wilds all get caught up in that life because it's you you escape yourself. It's an escape

I was just yeah The difference between enjoying yourself in an escape It's but now bro like to come down like after like because after a while like That like getting fucked up and going to sleep doesn't work It's like it's like now you want to go for two days three days the way you feel at the end of that run It's no good, bro. It's not good. It's just no good. Well, you're closing in on death. Yeah, that's the reality You do two days down you people don't like to that, but if you're up for two days, you're about four days away from death.

Yeah, it's crazy. You keep that up for four days, you're going to die. You'll stroke out. You'll have a heart attack. Something will go wrong. You'll pop. Something will go off. Yeah, I mean, you'll get emphysema,

or you'll get pneumonia. You'll get something horrible because your immune system's destroyed. Yeah. But it's like wild people make wild shit. and do you get a DMX without drugs? I don't like you call it sex drugs that rock and roll rock star shit. Whatever you want to call it No, if you get those people, I don't know if you get Hendrix without acid. I don't know if you get it I don't know if you get it. I don't know if you get it without heroin. I don't know maybe I'm so lucky because now I finally realize and I'm like

understand Like all the things you're saying about you can just die and I get it now and I'm like I'm not doing that and like I Lived it though, and I got to experience but the music is still fertile and like I'm still doing my thing because a lot of those memories Oh, bro, you made it through. Yeah, you made it through you you made it through You're alive. You're healthy. You're lucky. You're blessed fucking lucky as lucky as shit, and It's just like that's the dance man the dance is how much wild do you let in your life? And if you don't let any in My bill you might be boring as fuck your art might All my favorite artists are a little off the rails and always have been for my favorite writers to my favorite musicians

I mean so many of my favorite musicians died young Hendrix probably one of my all-time favorites, but like that's a great example You know Jim Morrison Janice Joplin all these people died young man Kurt Cobain died young because they went to Fucking hard to wild to wild out of the gate Amy Winehouse to wild deal with stuff that like It's not like you could just be an organized drug addict think some people just have less of an addictive personality But like if you the shit just takes over. Yeah, it takes over and again if you live in that hey go If you live in that wild life, it's like

There's no one telling you to stop. There's no one telling you slow down. You have all the money in the world Like what what who the fuck are you? Why are you telling me to slow down? Yeah, we fuck out of here. I just did the Star Spangled Banner with my teeth get the fuck off the stage You ever see him do that? Ever see Hendrix do the Star Spangled Banner with his teeth? Bro, that motherfucker. I'm told I'm one of the only guys who could play like music and smoke weed at the same time.

I don't know how they play music and sing at the same time. I. I met this guy Post Malone part of his business team like him and Dre London this guy Austin Rosen Austin Rosen is a fucking awesome dude like he owns a electric field entertainment Post all these guys Lou Bell They're all part of like some of the most talented and like,

just one of the coolest things going on in music for these guys. So, I wanted to make a life story, like biopic. I was gonna do something, I had one idea I was gonna do and then he was like, Austin says, dude, I want you to go meet this guy? Name's Charles Rovin. He owns Atlas entertainment. I don't know if you're familiar with Atlas, but they made like One of the biggest movie producers in the history of movies he did like Suicide Squad that whole series the Dark Knight

Oppenheimer like some of the craziest movies, the list just goes on. I'm like, oh shit, this guy makes blockbusters. He was going to make my movie? I was like, listen, just go meet him, see what happens. I meet the guy and I go in his office. I'm like so nervous. He says to me, I don't like you very much, especially from what I read. But if I like you by the

end of this meeting, I think we'll make a movie. What does that mean? I don't like you very much, especially from what I read. Because like, you know, there's some fucked up shit like, you know, like, no tabloid type. Yeah, but a lot of it's bullshit. Like, of course it is. It made me look a certain way. But meanwhile, me and him ended up really seeing eye to eye and I was able to articulate why a lot of these things happened. There was one interview I missed because I wasn't even told about it. And apparently it was rescheduled three times.

And then I was told about it and I unfortunately had to reschedule it. Guy wrote the most horrible story about me. It was the cover of a magazine and it was me covered with blood all over my face and just making me just look like fucking Hitler. And it couldn't be any further from the truth. Yeah, I made big mistakes, but I did it. I was the nicest person.

I would give the shirt off my back any person ever stopped me in the streets So like get a picture like I'm gonna ask him how their day was like, you know, it's a like I'm that guy Yeah, I'm very very thorough and very consistent. Well, that doesn't sell Yeah, what sells is you're the worst piece of shit of all time. Oh my god Let me read about this piece of shit. So that's that's a horrible thing that journalists do for money. They make these pieces where they completely distort a person's essence and they only do it for money. They're just like emotional hit people. Let's not talk about everything I left my footprint in the fucking world but anyway. Yeah right let's just talk about negative things and

only from a very distorted perspective. Life is nuanced and it's weird. Life is fucking crazy. And sometimes people make mistakes, but it's not their whole being. And to try to like condense a person down to like tabloid headlines, like that's the essence of the person. That's crazy. That's like the least compassionate, the least kind way of looking at human beings. That's not how human beings are. We're complicated. That's why those little hit pieces, they're gross and they don't really work.

Because people know that. They know that a person, there's probably a lot more to this. Like why is this so negative? Like this is not a balanced version of who that person is. I'm a complex character if I was in a movie, but of course, but yeah an artist. Yeah, every artist is complex I've never met one that is well a very very

raw and real Look at my life is happening now with Atlas Entertainment. We're making a movie major movie who's gonna play you it's gotta be several me's because my span of my career starts ultimately. I'm a kid. Yeah. I'm already a kid. Maybe they can do CGI, turn you into a kid,

you can play yourself. They can do wild shit. I didn't want to be involved in production, writing, or acting. I needed to be respected and real raw. It's not gonna make me look like the greatest guy, it's not gonna make me look like a bad guy, it's just gonna make me look like who I was.

Do you have any say in, cause one of the things that drives me nuts is when there's a movie and no one was there, and you see this historical figure say some things, and you're like, well how do I, he didn't really say that some fucking writer wrote that shit? This is not a real conversation a lot of time with somebody this guy Dan's frickin amazing talented guy and Yeah, everything is gonna be cool if I have my way I

Have an 18 year old son who's literally me who I make all my music with this kid Jalen He's my son and he's like one of my best friends What's like when ice cube son played him and this kid looks just like me and at the time I was his age Acts just like me perfect to a point where it's not even normal. So I can't think of anybody better, but we'll get to that I'm not saying he's going to but but I would love for that to be. And I think anybody could see that this kid's capable. Yeah. And he is me.

He's like, you feel me, like my mouth, everything, like different fucking things. Yeah. But it's weird when someone's alive and someone's playing that person who's alive. And you know, like, oh, that's not really Scott Storch. You know what I mean? It's weird.

It's weird. It's like a movie about you. And you remember when Michael Jai White played Mike Tyson? You know, and Mike Tyson was still, I mean, they were friends, they were cool with each other, but like, that had to be weird. You're playing a dude who's still alive. Mike Tyson's a special guy.

He's a very special guy. He's a very good friend of mine. I'm glad he got through that fight and didn't get hurt. Yeah. That's what I was, I was hoping he would knock Jake Paul out Just because that's the Cinderella story not I don't have anything against Jake Paul. I like Jake Paul I think what he's doing is genius. I think what he's doing is like I mean, he's got he's making insane amounts money He's having a great fucking time. He's a legit boxer. He's absolutely legit. You can't hate on somebody that works that hard. You cannot I would never hate you

You're an idiot. No, I was like, you know what? This guy is fucking really driven him at his brother They're like driven like it's not sure. Oh everybody starts somewhere. Yeah, you know I'm saying like so there were youtubers They were on Disney Channel who cares do with it, but but the reality is Mike is 58 years old and I was worried, you know I just I love that guy and he was a hero years old and I was worried. I love that guy and he was a hero of mine when I was a kid. So to see him 58 years old fighting, part of me was like, fuck. Me and him fought a lot of the same demons and we were there for each other in a lot

of ways. I talked to him pretty deep conversations with Mike and he actually checks on me and like, yo, you good? And I do the same. That's great. And my friend Rick like we're all like That's beautiful. Yeah, like That's beautiful. He's a beautiful person. He really is man for a guy was the most terrifying fighter of all time He's a really nice guy to be around

I felt like I was in the fucking movie hangover one time like cuz I was hanging out with him in Vegas I remember we're cruising around in my fucking Bentley Mulsanne at the time and he's like, you know, let's go jam out We went to the palms from my hotel to the palms and we rented the studio there just so I could play piano We're jamming out old records and shit. Oh, that's all just cruising around Vegas. I was like damn It's like fucking hangover. That's awesome Great dude, man. Vegas is a great example of a place where you have to have balance in Yeah, it's like living in Miami to me You live in Vegas. You should probably live in Henderson. Yeah

Yeah, exactly live close to the mountains out there like don't be right in the middle of all that Attack it from the outside That's what I did in LA when I lived in LA. I lived like an hour outside LA I never lived I did when I first moved there and then I slowly started moving further and further away till I got about I am not comfortable in LA anymore. I used to be it's crazy. One eye open. Yeah, I sold my house I got rid of that fucking place in the valley. I was just Home invasions everywhere. Yeah, it's crazy The it's like what they've done to that city

in a short amount of time is shocking. I never thought it would go that bad that fast. And it's the way it is now is bizarre. I always say that it's like a girl that used to date, she was really cute, but now she does meth and she works for the cartel. Like, what happened to you? The pandemic happened.

You just remember her from when she was so sweet and cool. Well, the pandemic was the reason why the government was able to fuck up that city. The pandemic was just, that was their way to fuck up the city. Dude, there were stacks of bricks on the street. We all know where that came from. Stacks of bricks that somebody left there hoping someone would throw through windows starting riots Yeah, that's a weirdo shit. It's correct. It's like I don't key and scary. It's spooky I don't like to go full Batman on this but it's like they're like there's evil villains out there that are pulling the strings of

The world and that's real those fucking Protests are organized man people spend a lot of money to organize those things and then put bricks out Even protests are organized, man. People spend a lot of money to organize those things and then put bricks out. The whole thing was designed to disrupt society. And then the defund the police bullshit, how anybody bought into that is so crazy. Reform the police, yeah. Train the police better, yeah. But defund them?

Are you fucking crazy? Yeah, let's just all not be safe. Because... Yeah. Are you out of your fucking mind? Do you not know the law of the jungle? Do you not know the real streets? Let me know when your house gets robbed you wanted to have a shitty You know, you're not gonna get a cop like I'm coming now

I have had so many friends that completely flipped a 180 after they got robbed 180 they're Trump supporters now. It's crazy people that were like full-on liberals and then they you know Get a gun pointed in their face and also they a sudden they're like, oh, this is what we signed up for? You're just letting these people out? You arrest these people and let them out and then they just do it again and they get arrested? What the fuck? The assistant to the DA in New York just got attacked by some guy who had been, see if you can find this, he got robbed by some guy who had been arrested some insane amount of times since 2023.

I was looking at the story online, I was like, this is so crazy that this person just keeps getting out and keeps robbing people and then just robbed the assistant to the DA. Alvin Bragg. ROR'd out. Suspected gang member accused of exposing himself robbing Manhattan District. Exposing himself, he pulled his dick out and he robbed him Exposing himself is funny because they have expo go to the headline exposing himself is first The robbing part that second but he showed him his penis. That is unbelievable

Unbelievable. What is wrong with this world? But it's just like it's's comedy, bro. It's like satire almost. Brandon Somoza confronted the 38-year-old victim in the hallway of her building on West 44th Street around 2 a.m. Authorities say he grabbed the victim's purse, cell phone, and bank card before exposing himself. He pulled his dick out after he robbed her. He robbed her first, but they put it exposing himself for the most horrible thing that he did. Police were able to track the phone and eventually arrest him near a hotel on West 45th Street,

8th Avenue on Tuesday, leading authorities to believe the suspect is a migrant. Possession of drugs, no they know who the guy is, Jamie, they caught the guy. He's been, see if you can find a more updated version of it, because he was arrested a ton of times since 2023. Exposing himself makes more sense now that it's a lady. I thought it was that Jamie? Oh okay right there. He's been arrested six times in the last five months for similar crimes. Six times. Wouldn't you think after five times they go hey maybe this guy's a real criminal. Maybe we need to lock him up. Maybe we need to put him in jail.

Maybe he's a real criminal. Nope. Keep lock him up. Maybe we need to put him in jail Maybe he's a real criminal nope keep him out there Jesus Christ That's the world we're living in now, and that's la and that's New York And that's a lot of places that got fucked up by incompetent people. I just feel safer knowing like I feel safer Knowing that Trump is in office. I do too. I feel great about it. I just think about it. What I don't feel safer is right now

they're launching missiles into Russia. That's fucked up, yeah. How are you allowed to do that when you're on the way out? The people don't want you to be there anymore. This should be some sort of a pause for significant actions that could potentially start World War III. Maybe that would be a good thing that we would like to avoid

from a dying former president This it's the whole thing is nuts. I mean look I don't know shit about policy. So I said Putin is terrified Fuck you man Fuck you people you fucking people are about to start World War three Yeah, it's crazy Russia fired a missile Yeah, they fired an intercontinental ballistic missile for the first time ever. It's the first time one of those has ever been used. That's insanity.

It's fucking insanity because those intercontinental ballistic missiles can have nukes on them. This one didn't. But if it does, the whole world changes, and it changes because of the military industrial complex, and it changes because of the money that's going to Ukraine, and it changes because the outgoing president or whoever the fuck is Actually running the country is designed to do some decided to do something fucking insane Fucking insane and we're all sitting there watching it and people are cheering it on CNN was saying like finally see what their headline was about

Zelensky using about Biden giving Zelensky the ability to use long-range missiles. US made long-range, it's not like nobody knows where they came from. It's not like nobody knows we've been funding this. It's a proxy war. The whole thing is fucking insane. It's insane. Come to the negotiation table, sit down, work this out, stop killing everybody. US allows Ukraine to use long-range missiles. So what did they say? Someone had said that CNN was saying that it was a good thing, which I think is how.

How has the left gone so far crazy that they think it's a good thing to launch missiles. That's what's scary about life is like, you don't want to pay attention to that shit. You just want to live your life. You want to just be carefree and have fun and do the thing that you're passionate about. And meanwhile, the world is burning. And you just hope that it doesn't get to you. You can't do anything about it.

At that high level, it's like there's nothing. Well, we can. We voted Trump in. Yeah. His idea is to stop all this shit and hopefully he can do that Yeah, but you know, man fuck it's scary like none of the fucking Problems between the Ukraine and Russia would have been exacerbated as far as they went had Trump been in office

I like to think that I've genuinely believe that he has a way of keeping the peace in a certain way and like well as soon as he got elected the taliban said let's form a truce you know hamas is saying let's uh ceasefire everybody is saying these things like right away china was saying we'd like to do business with america russia was saying that like let's fucking calm everybody down It's not being so fucking tribal You're so crazy that you think that everything the left is doing is right because you're on the left. This is Insanity and for anybody that's all a left-wing progressive person to think that somehow or another missiles are a good thing

God damn it God damn it you people out of your fucking mind minds. How can you think that's the answer? It's never the answer. This is craziness. Especially with Russia. God damn. Yep. But anyways. That's the shit that keeps me up at night, man. Oh, I know. When I get paranoid late at night when everyone's asleep, that's the thing that gets me. World War. The war just... because it's happened before, man. The world has been at peace before and then all of a sudden chaos and to think that that can never happen again

You're wrong. It's happening right now It's just not happening here and we don't feel it here So we don't it doesn't affect our thinking process and we Support things that could lead to it happening here and we don't even realize we're doing it while we're doing it as a human being like wouldn't you think that Keeping yourself and the rest of the population of the world safe is priority number one It's priority that's number one and peace and by the way everybody wants peace Everybody wants their children to be happy everybody wants wants to be well-fed and healthy.

Everybody wants that. Just figure out a way to fucking balance it all out. Jesus Christ. We got 60 more days until Trump gets in or whatever it is. How many days is it, Jamie? But who knows? Maybe once it gets in, they'll ramp it up. Who knows? Maybe they'll sabotage his administration. That's what's even more scary. People don't want them in power. And the people that are in power don't want to leave power and they'll try every way they can to keep it. 60 days from today. All right. 60 days. Keep your fingers crossed. Yeah. Just hope Putin understands what's going on as well. And Zelensky doesn't do anything stupid.

But saying that Putin's terrified, god damn it. It's like you're trying to tug the tail of a fucking sleeping dragon. Yeah. Also, Zelensky, can I get a drug test? Can we just get one drug test before we send you any more money? Like, what are you doing?

Are you doing a lot of blow over there? Because this is like blow like behavior. I'm not responsible for him. But you know what I'm saying? This is like cocaine like behavior. Putin's fucking scared man. Putin's terrified. Jacked up.

We got him. We got him man. We got him. Like what are you talking about? He has nuclear missiles you fucking monkeys. Jesus Christ. It's my chance right now. Jesus Christ. To cause destruction. Yeah, Putin should not have invaded Ukraine.

Yes, 100%. But don't start World War III. There's gotta be a way to settle this. There must be. I gotta put some of this into my music, like these feelings and like, even the conversations we're having. One of my best, my favorite anti-war songs is ghetto boys fuck a war

Bushwick bill Willie D told me he wrote that in 40 minutes. I like ghetto boys. I love ghetto boys storytellers like yes like Cool G rap. Oh, yeah, man Blocking yeah fucking Scarface yeah Cool G. They were the best storytellers. Oh my God. Scarface and Cool G. The L Street Blues. Yeah, no I love Cool G rap.

I'm on the verge of committing murder. It's like a whole fucking plot. He had a great flow too. Yeah. Yeah he had a great flow. Yeah. Yeah Cool G rap was awesome. Hip hop's different these days man.

I heard he's like a, someone's somebody's a devout religious man now. Really? See if that's true. I always wondered what happened to that dude. That was a guy that I felt like didn't get his due like on the world stage. Like people don't respect him for as good as he really was.

Cause I would tell like some young guys about Kooji rap, they don't even know who he is. And I played music in the green room room you ever hear the brand new heavies Like the jazz band when they lay linked up with a bunch of rappers the heavy rhyme experience Have you ever heard that album? Coogee raps death threat is the best track on that I played that shit in the green room with the mothership and I was like, what is this man? Yes, he's saying some shit and it's with the brand new Heavies playing the music.

That funky ass. Fucking tremendous. Jazz. Tremendous. They did a great thing with Gangstar too. Yep. They have a great song with Gangstar too that's on that. Yeah. I love that. That's where I entered into my passion and love for hip hop is that era. Yeah. I was saying that earlier. That's one of my favorite eras. Nas, you know, Illmatic, Godsong. That's like one of, it's almost like the Sgt. Pepper's

rap is Illmatic. Yeah, man. Oh my God, how old was he when he made that? He was young. Really young. I love to say, one love. Yeah. Genius. How about Rewind? Rewind is one of the most genius rap songs of all time. It tells a story backwards. Yeah, insane. And it's genius and it's fun and the flow's great. Mind melting shit. I

think Nas is my all time favorite lyricist. It's like Nas and then Everybody else is like that mean I love them all but like to me Nas is a special lyricist like his lyrics are sped Like like he's got so many oh Moments where you listen to me. Oh Oh, it's not even just punchlines It's like just a whole subject matters the way He described the way he hits things to paint a picture He paints a picture, but it's the way the way he chooses his words like we were listening to get down last night Oh my god

Goddamn, that's good a word choice M is M is to me like one of the really like the greats of that Oh for sure things in a different Amount of syllables or yeah that you wouldn't expect. It's just real creative shit. Yeah, I love Jadakiss at style speed. I think Jadakiss is like in my top tops. DMX. My workout music is Wu-Dang Clan. Oh, yeah, that's my workout music. Gravel pit when you hit in the bag, you know, and whenever we do shows, we have

like a ritual, like when we're driving to the arena, especially if we're getting a police escort, which is the craziest shit of all time, you're going to do a show and you got a police escort. And we always listen to protect your neck. Like, oh, we got to play it like, okay, here we go. Let's go protect your neck. Let's go. We're on our way to the arena And then once we get in the door, I'm your boogeyman Casey in the sunshine band Yeah, like just to get everything going like let's go Casey You mentioned his name I have to do it I

See him at the hit Factory in Miami one time. I was like, wow, fuck KC, KC and the Sunshine Man. And we meet and he's like, I saw your MTV Cribs and I'm just gonna tell you that I spend more on my flowers and my orchids than you probably do on your cars every month. I was just like, what the fuck? Wow, what a weird flex. What a weird flex, I was like, okay. Okay. Cool, what a weird flex. What a weird flex.

I was like, okay. Okay. Cool. I think you're wasting money because the flowers are going to die. Right? And I got a Bugatti. So to each his own. Bizarre quotes.

That doesn't even make any sense. You're getting robbed. Okay, you're getting robbed. Your florist is a piece of shit. Hey, everybody's got their own thing. I know, but you're getting robbed. If you're spending that much money on your flowers you are getting fucking rocks Of course he was making a point, but that's a crazy flex It's also a weird way to introduce yourself to somebody yeah

I just met him But in that one of those things where you like you used to be on top and you want to show everybody you're still on top Just like you were talking about like wearing the diamonds and the jewelry Go up to the guy who's hot right now and say yeah, I saw you MTV Cribs. I guess what my flowers Yeah, my spend more money on dirt Do that's seeing some crazy shit in my life, I've had some crazy Fucking moments for a fucking poor boy that came from no nothing And rose to like a place where it's like I've seen life on every side of like I've seen life as a poor boy that came from nothing and rose to like a place where it's like I've seen life on every side of like I've seen life as a poor boy seen life as

making it made it blew it this that I've seen like I remember sitting in st. Bart's I had been invited on the boat of pretty successful, very wealthy Russian people that I knew, I know. And sitting there chilling, doing my normal like, just hanging thing and I see a battleship pull up, like an actual like fucking army or navy, whatever, fuck, boat, pull up near us, somebody gets off the tender, gets on the boat I'm on, and it was Gaddafi's son.

Whoa. Yeah. I'm like, what the fuck, this is surreal. Well, you know what this is, was Gaddafi still alive? Yeah, I don't forget what year it was, I think it was like 2008. Okay, yeah, so he's probably still alive. Yeah,i still alive. Yeah, I forget what year was something like 2008 okay. Yeah, so he's probably still a lot. Yeah, and oh he was telling me how his country is becoming much more like

open-minded and yeah, and I Had a keyboard I was like jamming out playing and shit. I'm just such a fucking weirdo I was like playing Havana Gila Playing and shit. I'm just such a fucking weirdo. I was like playing Havana Gila But I've seen some shit man, I've seen the fucking craziest it's great American story That's the great American story, you know like coming from nothing chasing your dream making your dream fucking up your life along the way but still alive. Tell the story, you know See fucking BMF out at the club all the time like be in the club and I'll be like, you know these guys over there They just sent you 20 bottles of Cristal. You're like, okay, who are they? Fucking the guys like okay cool. Thank you guys Fucking cool shit to me every time I see them. Weird.

Yeah, I never had any drama. I never had any crazy situations happen because I think in the terms of I was providing opportunity for a lot of fucking people trying to make it, like rappers from the streets. So people were just always cool with me. I was respectful to everybody around me. Did you ever have a communication with that guy who called you the white devil? No. That was it?

No, that was it. You ever talk to him after that? I knew what I had to do. I had to make my own world and people that love me and be around those people. That's a terrible way to think. It's such a terrible way to think that someone, just because of the color of their skin, even though they work with you and you're cool together, that you could

just out that person. The other side has endured over the beginning of time. It's like, okay, so what? Whatever. But it just hurt my feelings because it was my fam. felt like I Just felt fucked up. I was like, you know what? If anybody knows me they know that like I'm not that devil like I'm the guy that's this is loving like Free-spirited like open-minded like non racist right, but that doesn't sell headlines, buddy Yeah, the white devil sells headlines the white devil gets people feeling better about themselves. I moved to LA and started working in Tray's camp

and I felt so much love and respect and like I was made to feel like what I was bringing to the table and that crew was like, they were like identifying that shit and they were like praising me and making me feel great. Well, you know the expression? Game recognizes game.

Yeah, right? Yeah, that's what it is. People see you and they hear you and they see like, oh, this guy's a wizard. Like, what's going on? Okay, you're staying here for a long time, Scott. I let a lot of people down, man, when I got heavy into drugs,

like the Dr. Dre's of the world. It's like, they're trying to hang in there with me like fuck bro like at some point You know they got like put me on timeout. Yeah. Yeah, well, that's probably good for you, too Yeah, when you disappoint people that you respect and care for yeah, that's that's like. That's a real emotional rock bottom You know that's and that's a real emotional rock bottom. Sometimes people need that to course correct. If everything's going great, you have no reason to stop doing blow and partying all night. If everything's perfect. And there's a lot of people that will enable you

to keep that life going because they're feeding off of you. Misery loves company. There's that, but then there's also people that like, all they wanna do is keep you happy because they make a living off of you, and so they don't wanna rock the boat. Right, so they don't care if you're destroying yourself. But the truth is, there's two different modes.

There's the guy that can make music and smokes his weed and fuckin' eat pizza and just is like a normal guy, and then when I flip to that other thing, that cocaine is not a drug you can really make, I feel like good music on. It may seem good when you're making it, but when you listen to it the next day, because the emotions, it's like a whirlwind of emotions

that you feel when you're in that world. Like you really feel like happiness, sadness, this, that, the other, like all these things, all within 10 minutes you could have all these emotions and it's no good. So how you gonna stay on something that you want to make people feel a certain way? Right.

So. I mean, I've never done coke, but everybody that I know does coke, so you can't perform on it It fucks you up. You don't feel right you you know, because you're feeling 20 different emotions inside and it's like You can only think about one thing when you're on it is that That's it

so Yeah, there's no real good not recommended for anybody. I don't know anybody who's got like a great coke story No, maybe one night, but most coke stories lead to my life fell apart. No happy ending. No No, you know, there's no like coke advocates, right? You know, there's a lot of marijuana advocates They'll tell you marijuana changed my life marijuana made me more compassionate because me made marijuana made me a kinder person more sensitive You know more in the community more into love Nobody says about good. There's no cocaine fixed my life. My life is kind of a mess and I started doing blow Man, it all just came together. You know, I realized that's what I need. I was a little I think I'm a little imbalanced

I just need cocaine every day. I remember being so perplexed I I don't like throwing people under the bus, so I won't say who it is, but one of the most Massive people in the world of technology like in the world of These younger Computer guys that became extremely famous like start people that started Facebooks and this and that, all that type of shit. Like one of those guys, I'm not gonna say who, but like somebody who's fucking so huge,

I went to visit him with some friends of mine. I was sitting at a table, whacking it up, and a dude's telling me that he just had a heart attack a couple of nights before. And then he started talking about how cocaine's one of the most poorly publicized drugs in the world. I was like, what the fuck am I listening to? Me even being onto the influence was like,

this is frightening. This was one of those guys, like one of the big, big, like change the world kind of people. So he was telling you he just had a heart attack, but cocaine is awesome. Yeah. And he's super smart. Yeah.

Which is even scarier, because you can convince yourself that you're right. The whole world knows who this guy is. Wow. The whole world. But, I don't know. I've had many situations where people so selfishly, even knowing I'm recovering or recovered

or whatever the fuck you wanna call it, wanna have the opportunity to do something. They'll pull me aside like, I always wanted to do a bump with you. Like, hey, man, but no. We can't do that, bro. When was the last time you did one? Shit, I mean, I've fallen within the past six months, but you know, I got good people around me now

that's good and like the shame of the guilt and everything just prevents you from From enjoying that and making like even thinking about doing it like Can't do that's good. That's hey man six months is great yeah six days is great the whole thing is just you're gonna fall and if you fall get up yeah get up it's okay you're a human being human beings fuck up they make mistakes yeah especially when you're dealing with something like addiction and most people think that can never be

me that could been never be I'm not like yeah, it could definitely be you There's things definitely trigger it and like it's usually pussy you know what I'm saying like you're not like you have no intention whatsoever of of Doing something and all of a sudden. It's right there in front of you There's a fucking ass naked girl, and there's a pile of this and there's you had like a like I've done it before And I could just do it this one time. Yeah, I'm gonna be okay. Yeah Bloodshot eyes like you got pink eye. Yeah Yeah, but too much too much going on now man, that's kind of being the movie with my my single with like my out

Well, it seems like you're in a good place. That's great. That's awesome. That's awesome Well, it's a I think it's so important for people like you to tell your story raw and unedited like you do Because I think people want to see a person that's been very successful and they want to have this rosy People want to see a person that's been very successful, and they want to have this rosy view of what their life was like. People love to build you up, but they love tearing you down. Oh yeah.

It becomes like a, and then for me, like, in my business, it's such a desperate business. If people know I'm of sound mind, and like at the top of my game and I'm Making some fucking fire-ass music. That's a threat for certain people Of course, so they'll block it like and they'll perpetuate the rumors and do whatever I'm fuck to make sure that I don't get behind there They're like a goalie for the artists like right so many huge artists They like they don't want me to get with them because they know what's gonna happen. I'm gonna make better shit behind there, there'd be like a goalie for the artist. Like so many huge artists, they like,

they don't want me to get with them because they know what's gonna happen. I'm gonna make better shit. People don't like when someone's talented and they don't like when someone's successful because everybody compares himself to other people. That's the real, the real problem is the comparison is the thief of joy.

Is that Thoreau? Is that what it was? Say that. Thomas Jefferson. Yeah, Thoreau is most men lead lives of quiet desperation. But comparison as the thief of joy is, that's a real thing, man. And if you're a person that's looking at someone else's success and somehow or another wanting to diminish that, you're doing it to yourself, whether you realize it or not. You are wasting your own precious life energy on hating on a person and that will take away your gift it'll take away your creativity it'll take away your ability to be present

because they're fools that's why they do in the first place job security it's it's a foolish venture and even if it works even if it works you're doing yourself into because you know you're a piece of shit You know that you've done that to a person You know you've distorted who that person is for just because you want to feel better about your own life You want someone to falter so that you don't feel when you're comparing yourself to them. You don't feel inadequate And that's that's the reason it's just pettiness just human weakness, and it's one of its grossest forms It's not called out enough. You know it's it's its grossest forms and it's not called out enough You know, it's it's it's really this it's a disgusting behavior pattern. It's bad for humanity. I

genuinely feel joy and excitement and Happiness for friends or colleagues that have success. Yeah, you should and it's inspiring I just see so many others that just don't like look at it like that. Because they're selfish. But it's haters. But that's a good thing. And you could say that that's selfish in a way, because when you help people and when

you're inspired by other people's success and when you enjoy other people's success you are experiencing a positive thing and that positive thing is one of the most important aspects of life like to deny yourself that Because you can't control your emotions and you can't control your jealousy and your feelings and to like hate on someone You're denying yourself an opportunity to feel good. And you could genuinely feel happy for everyone's success and still be successful. It doesn't take away your success at all. It's just a mental trap and people need to understand that trap.

It is insecurity, but it's also a lack of understanding of how your mind works, how the human mind can play little tricks on you and lay traps for you and how jealousy can rear its ugly head and distort your views. We fall into certain ways. Yes, we fall into certain ways. When I was in the fucking, the limelight, and now I'm in like Team Hilton

and I'm hanging out with certain people, I'm hanging out with some fucking spoiled brat, lucky sperm club ass fucking degenerates and basically competing with who could be the most obnoxious in the crew. You don't see that happening until I looked back at videos and things and I was like, dude, what a chump I was doing that.

I was slowly but was like doing that. I was like slowly but surely like turning into that. Yeah. Just to be like, I don't know. Just, that's the shit that's fucked up. Like you just have to like really always maintain who you really are and like not get lost in that shit and like live for others or try and be. Did we, were we talking about this in the podcast

the other day or was it a green room conversation? Someone said that? First Personalities are as infectious as diseases Someone was saying that like energy like people's energy is as of infectious as diseases And when you're around someone that has a great personality and very positive you get infected by that positive. You start exuding that. And when you're around shitheads like fucking dumbasses who just think it's stupid fucking what you start thinking that way it's it's contagious there's something to it. You gotta be careful about the company

we keep. Oh my god. This world is so polluted right is so polluted the most important thing It's the most important thing is your community right your family your friends your community the people that you associate with and if you're Associating with shitheads you're gonna have a fucked up experience The less people I come in contact for me is better like I like being home I like going to nice restaurants. I like being home I don't really like going out and fucking because all that energy rubs off on you. Yeah people's karma whatever the fuck it is Yeah, like the anxiety everything although the weirdness of people Comparing with each other who's got the better watch who's wearing the nicer shoes like what the fuck are we doing over that? It's stupid. That's good

You're smart. You're wiser Yep, takes time to figure these things out like but but better late than never. Yeah, but you still have the art You still have the desire for the art like that through the whole thing that Passion that we spoke of earlier for a while and now it's back like a motherfucker beautiful. Yeah spoke of earlier for a while, and now it's back like a motherfucker. Beautiful. Yeah, I'm in there like... That's the American success story. And when you rather that than at the type height of your fame, but the party and the

drugs and the fucking chaos and the falling apart, it's better to just like embrace the art. That's where like the creative... If it's not real, I don't want to fuck with it. Like I'm like not going to like chase checks to work on music like I'm gonna work on what's great and that's how you fucking do what's right you stay in your lane and yeah do what's you know is there any way to play the single I got coming sure I have it I'm gonna show you this girl's 21 is there a

picture that you can you know a picture? It's like it's like I Have a single cut. I just had the song I can google it or something. No, it's all good I'll show you but the girl is like organic like she doesn't need autotune. She's not like Like she's real. So mm-hmm. This is just an example Autotune is a wild thing. Yeah. Abbey Stare. Texture. I mean, I don't see this every day in like artists. It's usually like some... She's a writer too. But at least I have some leniency That I may feel something just because you don't And a girl falling hard, no it ain't for the weak So don't try this at home

I guess it's a funny game still It's your last, last, last, last I guess You forgot to read the label that's your bad, bad, bad, bad My faith would die to waste if I'd go back to that place I know, I know, I know I'd rather fly away Or wait ten times longer to feel the right way on my own My faith would die to waste if I'd go back to that place I know, I know, I know I'd rather fly away Or wait ten times longer to feel the right way on my own

Mama told me If you can't live without something then you gotta give it up Can't live with it after I guess I'm the problem when it's all said and done You laugh at your fun. I got the last one Something told me When you was poppin shit, I just knew you would never live it up courtesy or the bottle you fucked around and found out about them, but you still shy you shy So what you're listening to is a girl that's amazing voicing rights that shit see the conviction

You get a songwriter a big fancy songwriter to work with some girl and like teacher how to have emotion It's not the same. That's her. She is It's a lot of Amy Winehouse vibes. Yeah In this fact that it's both raw. Yeah, no not different not like she's copying anyone but like that vibe of authenticity Yeah, yeah, she's a real 21 21 damn and Motion is there that comes from and she writes all that. Yeah, she's like that's incredible That shit is not something like that could put that up again Jamie melody. Is that available right now?

Can I get that? Yeah. Yeah, we just I'm gonna add that shit to my Spotify playlist, right? I'm gonna put that on the green room playlist right now On my own. Yep, that's gonna be the first one. Look I'm showcasing her. That's my this is my single It's Scott Storch featuring Abby's there, but um She worked, you know, I'm part of the making of her physical her album which is already has a bunch of stuff that she made on her own that she made and then stuff I've Did with her and 1217 records me and my partner Kevin That was amazing she's dope and Um, yeah, her voice is amazing, man.

Yo, she's dope. And, uh, you know, I got some great records. I got records with A-list celebrities, like, you know, it's not exciting to play, like, for me, a record with somebody who has already sold millions and millions of records, like, for my project. I want to break. I made a habit in my career of breaking artists and like I've like I did Chris Brown's first song and I told him sitting in the

studio I'm gonna make you a hit record today he was like 15 16 and I did that we made run it that day I've done a lot of you know when I came back into the business after my like dark period of just not doing anything except doing drugs, which lasted eight, nine years. I met Steve LaBelle and Steve, not only were we partners on the rehab center, but he was helping me get back into the music thing. And I was like, yo, get me a meeting with Jay Z.

Get me Beyonce, give me all the people I made hits for he's like fuck no They're not gonna work with you right now show them what you're doing. I'm gonna give you the best blueprint Some people like to jump the gun. Yeah, he's like This artist this artist this artist this artist these are all new artists. You don't know who they are But if you make them fire Everybody's gonna look at you like you're a fuckin', get the Heisman Trophy again. You know what I'm sayin'? And one by one, every single one of those artists

that he put me with that were nobodies at this point are all huge right now. Trippie Redd, A Boogie, Roddy Ricch, Russ, who's one of my favorites. Like I love Russ, I don't know if you're familiar with his music, he's just like, he's got something to say, he's like, he's the man. Like you gotta like fuck with Russ,

he's a really serious artist today. I've seen this guy without radio, cause he has a fan base, a cult fan base, cause what he does is so real. Without radio or any shit, he's selling out arenas by himself That's amazing. Yeah, it's amazing. He's just I love that that's happening today Yeah, they've kind of taken the really have her the gatekeeper is out of the equation now Yeah, all something has to do is be good and get it online

He released two hundred songs in one year just like SoundCloud or whatever. Wow 200 songs in a year? Yeah. Holy shit. You know and he just started that consistency. Yeah. It became an acquired taste and then. So you just you love watching people make it. Yeah I like being responsible for that it's more of a challenge that just I'm gonna make Drake a hit You know, I really want to work with Drake, but I've been roadblock with Drake. I know Drake loves me and my production but for whatever reason I Haven't been able to get in I want to get a hold of Drake and talked to him about his fight picks

That motherfucker loses more money Before it's over by ko. Oh, I need to get a record off I want to get a record off with him wasn't John Jones a 600 to one favorite I mean well he had it by ko wasn't just a win, but yeah, well, that's what I would have said anyway I mean, I would not have thought John would I mean that's an easy bet. I want to get a record off with Rihanna, too. I I mean, that's an easy bet. I want to get a record off of Rihanna too. I had a very uncomfortable meeting with Rihanna and I'm mortified to this day. Uncomfortable because of the cocaine?

No. What happened? She was in a VIP in New York years and years ago and doing her thing or whatever and they like, obviously people know who I am so they didn't front on me. They let me up into her tables was a greenhouse and back in the day and I Introduced myself and whatever and I gave her a hug and I fucking got hooked on to her hoop earring That walk out of that VIP room was the most mortified most embarrassing shit I ever fucking felt in my life. I was like cool. I bet she

Like it would mean to get her ear in there, I know but that's an accident that guy at that moment So yeah, it haunts me you're meeting so Up with that earring you want to make a good impression and you get her ear ripped off? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Whatever life is full of surprises. Yeah so Is like your favorite your favorite thing seems to be breaking new people then is it because you get to show the world new talent? Is it does it remind you of you when you were getting your breaks?

You're helping sculpt what somebody's sound is gonna be with backbone, where they started, like creating something new. And I think that's a, to me, like my sound has always been to not have a sound. And like, you know, have like different like genetic strains of music I call them like yeah like different things that I brought to the table that nobody else was doing and then when people start doing it so much you're honored copying you and then you move on to the next thing but like with artists you get to like concoct some kind of new vibe with them. I did Beyonce's first solo album,

we made a sound, we did three smashes. I did three straight smashes out of three songs I did. One was Baby Boy, Naughty Girl, and Me, Myself, and I. And at that point, I had just moved from LA, and I had been moved from LA, and I had been working with Dre for so many years, and I'm looking at Dre, I'm like, Dre has his empire, and I need to go off and create my empire, not competing, but doing something different within music,

and not using that sound that he and I created and sculpted together, which was like the new wave of West Coast music. I moved back to Florida, to Miami, where I hadn't been in eons, because I went from Florida as a kid, I lived there until I was 15, and I moved to Philly with my dad,

and then from Philly to LA. And now I'm going from back, no, to go start my own little world, I'm now rich, okay? And I go home to Florida, I'm rich, and I'm ready to fucking make my own little sound and shit, create some shit. Beyonce was one of the first contestants, and we fucking solidified that shit and made history with that album. Like I remember she did the Grammys and she thanked God and then she thanked me first like and I was like I have it up. I'm like it was like one of the biggest honors in the world

like and like we made history and that was like that's like that's the ultimate thing that I want to continue to do is like I want to do that with Abby I feel like once I get driven like that there's nothing can stop me that's beautiful Scott's been great talking to you man I really appreciate it appreciate you coming down here it's been a lot of fun man. I really appreciate it appreciate you coming down here. It's been a lot of fun Wow, we did three hours. It's close like two and a half hours now. It's crazy. Yeah, I could talk right yeah, man Well, you got good stories You got a good story, and you have a good story your your story is good story Oh, and like I said, I think it's a it's a great story for people to hear people

That's why people like biographies, you know people like to find out like what was it easy for you why am i struggling like what is this struggle like is it the same for everybody when you're struggling yourself you think you're alone and when you have a dream and you don't know if it's going to come true you go was everybody like this you know great comes easy nothing nothing thank you for having me. My pleasure brother. Pleasure to meet you, pleasure to hang with you. My man. Appreciate you very much. Sure.