The Joe Rogan Experience - #2249 - Yannis Pappas & Chris Distefano

Episode Date: December 31, 2024

Yannis Pappas is a standup-comic and host of the "Yannis Pappas Hour" podcast. Chris DiStefano is a stand-up comic and the host of "Chrissy Chaos" and "Christories." Together, they are the hosts of the "History Hyenas" podcast. www.yannispappascomedy.com www.chrisdcomedy.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Joe Rogan Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. I want to see you vomit. Are we up? This is Chris DeFano's very first time ever. Lighting and smoking a cigar. How old are you? 40. How have you managed to get this far with no cigars? I don't know how to do any really guy shit like that? I don't know how to do any like really guy shit like that. Like I don't know how to play pool, cigars.

I don't really know how to do that, but I do know every state capitol. Okay. Is this the right way? Yeah. He's gonna vomit, I wanna see him vomit on the show. I don't think he's gonna vomit. Don't inhale it, you gotta get the fire.

First you gotta lower, yeah. Lower your hand. Yeah. Are you doing this on purpose? I swear on my kids I've never done this. No, no, I mean the way you're being retarded like get the fire on this Get it on there get it on there get it in there there you go Yeah, all right. You're good. Just start pulling no, you're not good. How did you fuck that up?

What am I saying? What am I supposed to do smoke it? You got to inhale while you're lighting it? Yeah, I want to do what you want to do is inhale all the smoke in yeah, no no no no no Just kind of keep taking fun with a breathe in while you're doing that How do you get to be 40 and never have a cigar well now he's a man now you're a man So what do I do now? You puff on it it's not even lit how'd you fuck that up I just tried to light it for five minutes I'm gonna puff you gotta do this and you don't you just you don't inhale you just take it into your mouth yeah you enjoy the taste of it there you go

take some little puffs yeah this is not gonna work out. Well couple puffs Yeah, he's gonna like the whole thing. Yeah, you're good puff puff keep puffing. Keep it lit. You want to keep it lit There we go You're honest. What's the first time you smoked it's sorry when I was six years old With my uncle, you know what it is get to be you get to be 40 and no cigars? I think because my dad never really smoked. Don't cry, don't start crying. No, it's in the back of my throat. My dad never really smoked and I never really did any like man kind of stuff like this and I was with my mom mostly and she was more you know. Even the way you said that. I was like, my mom. It's true, I know, well it's just I got cigar

in the back of my throat. But I don't know what to do. I also, I'm just thinking about how my clothes are gonna smell like cigar smoke. Yeah, no, it really does. That's gonna mess with your head? Yeah. And it messes with my head,

because I'm like, I don't wanna get cigar smoke on my clothes. Do you use cologne? Yes. Shout out Eve Saint Laurent. Wow. I'm body odor. Do you not use cologne?

No. Never? No, never. Maybe when I was like 18. You just go with your natural musk. Well, I wear deodorant. Right. I work Dr. Squatch.

Shout out Dr. Squatch. Shout out Dr. Squatch. Natural. It doesn't have aluminum in it. Yeah. But I wonder if it works as good. Well, there's more- I think there's something to the aluminum.

Why would they put it in there if it wasn't effective? No, I tried to deodorant without the aluminum and it doesn't work. You can take a sniff of these bits. Can I take a peek? Yeah, you can smell. Come see what sniff. Take a sniff. Yeah, you want me to go on the other side? Come take a sniff.

They smell good. Yeah, that's right. Get in there. Yeah, they smell good. Not bad. Not bad, right? Yeah, that's a- Dr. Squatch is legit. I forget which flavor it is. It's like fucking whiskey, bourbon, mus bad, right? Yeah, that's it. Dr. Squatch is legit. I forget which flavor it is. It's like fucking whiskey, bourbon, musk, some shit.

There's pheromones in natural scents. Tim. Yeah, that's a lie. You don't think so? I mean, there's pheromones, but natural people smell disgusting. People that don't wear antideodorant, they always smell funky.

Stinky, certainly. They have like, you know, your pits are, think about how it works, right? It's just getting squashed all the time. Your pits are just constantly getting squashed and there's hair in there, unless you're a weirdo. So there's hair and the hair's collecting all the sweat and it's just getting funky.

That's what made eating pussy so hard before the 2000s. Before porn. Before porn, but porn used to be muffed out. Right, but somewhere along the line it wasn't and then society followed. Before porn. Right. Before porn. But porn used to be muffed out. Right. Yeah. Somewhere along the line it wasn't and then society followed. Yes. And it changed eating pussy.

I mean it's so much more enjoyable without any fumes. Yeah. Because the fumes get caught in the hair. Fumarang. Yeah. Yeah. Stuff goes on down there. Yeah.

It's plus six inches from the asshole. Yeah. Not even. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Napoleon's letters to Josephine, he wanted her to have a full bush and he wanted her not to bathe for a week. When he was coming home from war, he said, I need it, I need it fucking mungy.

So some guys like that. Mungy. I noticed a new word. He was involved in trench warfare. That guy had a different tolerance for shit. Yeah. You just imagine the kind of warfare that Napoleon's crew were, I mean they had muskets. And they were also probably much more tolerant of bad smells because history

smelled. Can you imagine? People bathed once a week and even athlete's foot, everybody probably had athlete's foot. Stinky. Yeah, everyone. They didn't have bidets yet. So your asshole was just like... They didn't have running water, bro. Yeah, they had nothing. They had buckets. Yeah. The only people who were clean in antiquity? Muslim people. They were the clean ones. When you read about the Crusades, they said the Muslims were able to smell the Christian army coming from miles away because of how filthy they were, where Muslims were all about science and cleanliness and you know Dr. Squ, before it was big. Well, before the Mongols sacked Iraq,

like they were, like that was the pinnacle of civilization. They turned the river, was it the River Tigris? They turned it red with blood. Like that's how many people they killed. They killed the entire town of Baghdad. Like they killed everybody there. And those people were at the pinnacle of science. And then look, you go all the way to the 1990s and you got fucking

Saddam Hussein and his psychopathic kids running shit and killing people and that was what was left over. Yeah. Same gene line. It's really nuts when you think about- You think that gets into the genes like the killer kind of psychopathic? 100%. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. I think good things and bad things get in your genes. I think that's been substantiated by science. They said You know that even racism can can be passed on from parent to child. That makes I believe it traumatic memories Mm-hmm. I believe it my yeah, but I feel like only now as I'm getting older am I like

Oh, I have some of my mom's memories in my head. I feel like. Think about it. Like, think about, let's look at the snake of simpler animals, like animals, like dogs, like Carl. How the fuck does a dog know to pee on a tree? How does a dog know to go to where pee is and pee on it? How do they know any of those things?

They're born with it. Right. Programmed in. There's some memory. How do they know when they see another dog They're born with it. Right. Programmed in. There's some memory. How do they know when they see another dog or an animal to bark? Why are they scared of it? Like, why are people scared of snakes? Why are people scared of spiders? Puerto Ricans are not scared of snakes. Well, they probably live in Puerto Rico. There's snakes everywhere.

No, I'm saying they take them as household pets. Yes. My friend Sergio's got eight of them. Eight snakes. Yeah. Sergio might be a problem. Yeah, Sergio is a problem. Sergio used to hurt somebody, yeah. Pets that are snakes.

Sergio used to beat up drug dealers when he was 15 with his fists. Like that was, he would get the drug, other drug dealers would pay this 15 year old kid to go beat up other drug dealers with his fists on the Lower East Side and get money. But he's a great guy and a spiritual guy, and he's the only guy I know that would beat up

a drug dealer and then journal about it later, because he's in the speech. How do you know about this guy? He's our friend. He's our friend. He's our friend. He's a comic. He's a great comic. He's a comic?

He's a comic and a boxing instructor. Oh, no kidding. Yeah, he trains us both. We're fucking ready. Yeah, we're ready to go. You look thinner, dude. You really do. You look healthy.

Thank you. He does. You've been boxing? I've been boxing, yeah. Okay, let me see some moves. You wanna see? For real? I'll show you form.

I got video on it. I'll show you form, dude. Sure. He's got a nice, he's got a nice. You made a video today. I got video on it. I'll show you form dude. He's got a nice, he's got a nice. You made a video today. I got a video today, he's got a nice right hand. He's not, you say you're slow but you're not slow. But you got a nice, nice right hand. Yeah, I have, he tells me I got a little power in both hands.

Right. So I don't know. You're a little too confident for my liking. I know, I know and that's how it goes. And then you just get fucking stretched out. Stretched out. You'll get laid out And then you just get fucking stretched out. Stretched out. You'll get laid out, Cud. Yeah, you get stretched out.

You have a smaller head than normal physically. So it is hard to catch. It's harder to target. Yeah, you're fucking target. I got a big dog. It looks like you got a helmet on your head. Listen, the reality is both of you are gonna get hit a lot. 100%.

And it's way better to have a big head. Is it? 100%. Guys with bigger heads traditionally, for a fact, take a better shot. That makes sense. There's other guys like Mark Hunt. Mark Hunt, one of the greatest kickboxers of all time.

K-1 Grand Prix champion, fought in UFC, fought in Pride, is a legend. Head the size of this table. Yeah. Body, dead body. Head the size of this table. Yeah, he was just Samoan. Yeah, right. Just a Body, dead body. Brock Lesnar, head the size of this table. Yeah, he was just Samoan. Yeah. Just a giant, thick dude. He was like 5'10", 250. Yeah. Right. You

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My chin's going out. I'm going out quick, right? You don't have good structure. Yeah. I got a lady's face is what you're saying. No, you have a man's face, but there's certain faces that are easier to hurt. Yeah, and his got a good jaw. But you know, there's arguments against that.

Like some guys have small jaws and somehow or another they take great punches. Max Holloway doesn't have like a big square jaw, takes a tremendous punch. Yeah, right. I'm scared to sleep with the lights off so I don't, I think if I got hit... You look like you can take a good shot though. Like the structure is good. What I have, what my defense is, not against guys like you if you don't know me, what my defense is I look like I can take a punch. You look like you can be a complete psychopath. And you don't know me. My defense is I look like I can take a punch. You look like you could be a complete psychopath. And I don't know any.

Like if I could teach you how to like really find your inner psycho, you'd scare the fuck out of people. First you gotta teach me how to light a cigar. I don't even know what to do about it. There's something dead behind your eyes that's very troubling if you were angry. If I was angry, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see that.

But the thing is, for me, Joan, I'm just completely honest with you, when I get really angry, like you'll punch a wall or you'll do man shit, I cry. There's been many times where I've gotten so mad that I just start to tear up and cry. I've cried in front of Yanis before. When you get angry? When I get angry, I just start to cry. So there's some wires crossed somewhere in me, but we've kind of accepted that's why I think our friendship has blossomed to the way it is because we both understand that

we just have a little bit more estrogen than most guys, and that's okay. We got nicked for sure. I mean, we got nicked by the gay jeans. Some people get fully clipped, I think we got nicked. Joe didn't get it at all. No. Joe got not even close to being nicked. No.

Full nicked. Which is rare for a comic because it's very usually hard to be funny and not a little bit of a feminine guy. You're a very manly guy that can be funny. That's rarity, babe. Yeah. Well, most guys that if you like hang around boxing gyms or if you hang around a lot of cops or if you hang around soldiers,'re funny man they're funny dudes because

it's gallows humor because they're dealing with like one of my funniest friends was a Special Forces guy yeah he's fucking hilarious yeah yeah and he's always cracking like jokes you could never repeat you know saying things you can never repeat and it's just so funny it's like he's funny it just funny in you know kind of a crazy way. Yeah. Right. We always say that if we were back in history,

like 200 years ago, whatever, we'd be the guys in the war. We'd either be hitting the drums or we would just be keeping the troops loose, laughing with the troops because we're not the kind of guy, we think we have value as men to other warrior men like yourself, but we're not gonna do the fighting, but we will do the cooking, the cleaning, and the laughing. And I will offer my nuts up to be a eunuch

to watch the harem. It's also the experiences that you've had in your life that make you who you are right now. It's not as simple as like, when I was a kid, I was terrified of everybody. That's why I learned martial arts. I was getting picked on. I hated it.

So I was like, all right, I gotta figure out, there's only one way The only one way is to become formidable right to become the person that you're scared of right? So I did that Yeah, but it wasn't because like I was this like kid that was tough like all the time like when I was young I was like I understood how to like just be a fucking man like no, I had to learn all that Yeah, right from from great weakness comes great strength. Yeah, well you recognize what it is, right? It's thought patterns.

You allow your brain to go down these very detrimental thought patterns. And you have to like separate you, consciousness from these patterns that you allow your attention to go down That's what it is. Yeah, and if you can shut those off You'll you'll have a happier life You have to you have to understand where they're going and when they go in a negative detrimental anxiety spiral

Now I'm not saying this will work for everybody because I do believe that some I some anxiety is chemical I believe that some people have a bad balance because I've know people like that. It's a real thing. And I can't, I could never say that the way I think is the way everybody thinks. There's no way. But I know for me, that with me,

I know because of extreme experiences, I know how to shut those things off. So from fighting, from hunting, from doing stand-up from doing a lot of live things We're in front of like thousands of people. I know how to shut that part of you the brain off that goes down those roads I know what it is. You know I've experienced it of it I never had a panic attack, but I've had anxiety and I freaked out before and then I was like Why don't I react like that and then you look at it in retrospect you go? Okay, I started spiral and then what if this happens and then what if that, why did I react like that? And then you look at it in retrospect, you go, okay, I started spiraling,

and then what if this happens? And then what if that happens? What if this happens? What if that happens? Whoa! Okay, don't do that. And then get to that spot, and have enough mental clarity

and enough sovereignty, control over the mind to not allow it to go down there. It's tough when you have a comedian's brain, because that's what we do. We spend a lot of time in our heads analyzing things, analyzing things, and sometimes it to go down there. It's tough when you have a comedian's brain because that's what we do. We spend a lot of time in our heads analyzing things, analyzing things, and sometimes it can turn on you. Yeah.

If it starts with what if, it's anxiety. Push it out of the brain, folks. And anxiety's a liar. What if is no good. Anxiety's a liar. Liar. Fucking liar. Anxiety is a liar, but that what if sometimes is good.

Like, what if I do this? What if I just re-look at this? What if is not bad? What if I just relook at this? What if it's not bad? What if it's attached to, what if it all falls apart? What if everyone hates me? Like every now and then I get a text from a friend that's like, hey man, are we cool? Like, what are you talking about?

Like, what are you talking about? Of course we're cool. Like, what happened? Oh, I just, no, no, no, I haven't heard from you in a while. I'm like, are you okay? Let's talk on the phone. Yeah, you know, these are weird conversations, you know Some people just go down the road and they start thinking everybody hates them. That's narcissism, right? They just think everyone's obsessed with you. There's a little bit of that, right? Unfortunately even victims like people that are psychologically

Damaged, you know and they're depressed. That is a type of narcissism, unfortunately, but you don't want to further victimize someone who's got a mental illness by saying, oh, you're a narcissist. But if you're just only worried about how other people think of you, and only worried about how you fit into everything, yeah, there's a narcissism in that.

I know when I text you, I just go, hey, there's a one in six chance. The guy's a busy guy. That's what it is. I never take a question like never take a question. I have a new number and I've been saying this for a while I have a couple numbers, but I get it. I have to Renew I got to just completely check out and I never call you first cuz I'm like I don't know if I'm if we got that type of friendship. I can call you Alright, I hug you when I see you. Yeah I'm called a couple of times. I've sent you I come over for Christmas. Yeah now. Oh wow you're gonna be seeing a lot of Yannis Papas popping out

Yeah, yeah, it's been a couple of times. I sent Joe voice notes Yeah, and then you listen back. I'm like I'm not sending that and then I just don't reach out. What'd you say? What's up, honey bubbles? What's up, baby gorgeous? Yeah, sends me the most voice notes Alex Jones because they disappear. Oh, right This is what they're planning and then it's like disappears. But you can keep them. That's perfect. Yeah, you can keep them. But doesn't he know if you keep them? Yeah, yeah. I don't want him knowing that. I don't want him knowing. No, I'll record it with another phone. That's smart. I like, you know, film it.

Smart, dude. Yeah. This is what the problem is. Yeah. That's perfect. I mean, it's almost like- I've known him for about 25 fucking years. I mean, if you called me and did that, I'd be like, Alex Jones- As soon as Trump gets in, they're gonna- the aliens'd be like Alex Trump gets in They're gonna the aliens will land That's turning the frogs gay Dude I saw a video of Alex Jones, and I'm late to the game has seen this but how he predicted 9-eleven in June of

2001 he did I was crazy to watch that Tucker thinks he's a savant He's um he's a very Misunderstood guy right he really is and it's really unfortunate that Sandy Hook thing cuz it wasn't for that He's a very misunderstood guy. He really is. And it's really unfortunate that Sandy Hook thing, because it wasn't for that. He would be way more respected and people would appreciate him for what he is. He had a psychotic break. And he had a drinking problem at one time and maybe some other stuff.

And he was losing his fucking mind because all day long it's conspiracies that are real. And so when you start looking for conspiracies in places that aren't real, and then I think there's also another thing. I think there are certain people, now I don't know who they work for, I don't know if they're independent, I don't know if they do it just for fun.

Some people create fake, compelling conspiracies and then put them online. Yeah, for sure. They do it. For content, yeah, for views. That's true too, but I think there's a more nefarious aspect to it too. Oh yeah.

I think the more conspiracies that you can make look really stupid, the more the real ones seem preposterous because they're connected, right? Like, here's a great example. 9-11 was an inside job. That sounds fucking insane, right? That sounds completely insane that the government did that. But 51 former intelligence agents testified that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. That sounds crazy too, but that's real. If you get enough of the ones that don't make sense, like the Jews control the weather, you get enough of the

flat earth ones, you get enough, they're all, it's all like, it's like the term drugs, right? The term drugs applies to nicotine, it applies to the coffee we're drinking, that's what a drug is, but it also applies to fucking meth, right? Conspiracy theories are lumped in all together, just like drugs, and the best way to do that is to put a bunch of bad ones out there, really bad ones, so that the ones that are plausible, you go, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, show me the Pfizer files? Why are they hidden for 75 years? How many people did you test this on? Did you ever test for transmission? You never did. So when you were on TV and you're saying that, what was going on there? That's a real conspiracy. These are real people conspired to hide information

and to shape a narrative that would be very, very profitable. Right. But nobody's going to believe the Jews created the weather and then also it's only a small group of people who are gonna go the Jews are controlled They're definitely cloud seeding they do buy there's they will crawl in your shoes though. These will crawl in your shoes. Yeah Tighten your laces for sure There's people that can discern between a good conspiracy and a bad conspiracy, but I don't think there's a lot of them I think it's like 30% of the population. All right, let me ask you about this one then. America maybe, yes. America, 30% of America.

Let me throw this one out, are you ready for this one? Do you think it's possible, just hear me out, do you think it's possible that what this existence actually is, is some type of prison planet and we are, negative emotions are being fed on by an ancient alien race that has kind of imprisoned us. And the reason why monks and people like that go into deep meditation is because a lot of this universe is spoken through vibrations and they can get their vibrations to a certain

height where they can vibrate and have so much positive energy that the prison planet rulers can't eat them and they're not stuck in this loop like we are. Light me up. Where'd you get this one? This is real. Where'd you get that one? I thought it was eat their negative thoughts. Eat their negative thoughts and negative emotions. Can you light me up, be honest?

Yeah. I'd like to hear about that. This is such a feminine thing. He's asked you to hold the door open for him. Yeah. Why don't you put the umbrella over his head, light his cigar. You're getting lit up on nicotine.

Yeah, that's what it is. I feel lightheaded, is that normal? Yeah. Wow, that's what you're supposed to get. Yeah, you may get sick too, but it'll be fine. Why it'll be fine. That's why cigars are so good for conversation You're not gonna get sick cigars are so good for conversation because it gets you a little loose. Yeah, it's nice It's a nice little buzz. So you don't think the prison plant you don't think this is there's a possibility This is a prison planner from an advanced human race and they're eating our negative emotions and thoughts for fuel

Where'd you get that? Where'd you get that from? Jones no and not Alex Jones. Where'd you get that? Where'd you get that from? Alex Jones. No, not Alex Jones. Alex Jones has a much more detailed explanation. Interdimensional child molesters. There's a device on the moon. There's a device on the moon. Oh, it's on the moon.

That's how they reflect. That's how they reflect. That's how the energy goes to that. That sounds like some L. Ron Hubbard shit. Have you ever read any L. Ron Hubbard? I know the details. I know it's a nice pyramid scheme to go up all the way. Oh yeah, but that's just the Dianetics or Scientology.

The really fun stuff is his science fiction. Do you know that he wrote the most words ever? Of any human being? More than James Joyce? He has the most published work of all time. So so he's like no one Thomas King King Thomas King Kane of writing well He never made a second draft homeboy stuff all sucked. It was all unbelievably bad science fiction It was unbelievably bad like wonderful like so bad. It's just like what have you ever seen a battlefield earth?

Yeah, that was the worst movie Iran Hubbard is a record-holding author who holds a Guinness World Records for publishing Most published works by one author most audiobooks published by one author most translated author in the world most translated author same book the way to happiness Very interesting use a special IBM typewriter with extra keys for common words Very interesting. Use a special IBM typewriter with extra keys for common words. What? It was so bad. He was so bad at writing. Not only did he not edit, he needed the word ready. Do you think you might be... You keep going. You might be in line for podcasts for Guinness World Records most podcast minutes ever recorded. That's possible. That's very possible.

You could get that. Maybe. I mean what's the record now? I don't know. Who's doing nine hours a week? Yeah. Only you. I might already have it. You might already have it. That's like I already have the Guinness World Record one that Adam Carolla holds. What's that one? Adam Carolla has like the most downloaded podcast of all time. I'm like, bitch that's mine. You can have it though. Yeah. Keep your name in the book. That's mine. Well, because yeah, you have to specifically go to Guinness World Records and they have to do research

and like give you a whole thing. Yeah, you have to prove it. You have to go to them to try to get it on the books. And I don't give a fuck. But if they were like really checking, it has to be. It's been, this has been number one for five or six years. There's no way.

There's no way on cruel Still got it. That's crazy. No way of it. You're lying now and you do what average three every episode three hours So it's nine hours a week average. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm using for usually for a week So it's usually 12 and sometimes five. Yeah, this week is four Some weeks is five and if it's a fight companion like some weeks It's foreign a fight companion the fight companion might be five hours long You know, yeah, it's just passion you think like you never say fuck. I got to do a pod It's always like can't wait to do I never say fucker. I have to do that's beautiful. Especially guys like you

I'm like we're gonna have fun. Yeah fun. What do we talk about prison playing? You know how you do you know how much we would be loving this if it never happened like if you never got to be around friends and just shoot the shit and smoke a cigar and laugh and crack up and talk about nonsense. Like if you couldn't do it, it would be something you would look forward to so much if you were lonely, if you didn't have good friends,

you didn't have like, comics are the best friends. They're the best friends to have. Cause you could be open with them, they talk crazy, they say wild shit, you laugh together, you feed off of each other, they're the best friends to have because you could be open with them. They talk crazy They say wild shit you laugh together you feed off of each other They're the best friends if you didn't have any comics for friends. There's a lot of fucking sad People out there. Yeah, so if you're not sad you say your comics aren't sad. Oh, yeah some comics are some comics are sad tears of a clown yeah That's a little exaggerated. I think a lot of them are sad. Tears of a clown. Yeah, that's a little exaggerated.

I think a lot of them are sad because of the whole thing we were talking about before, like narcissism and anxiety. Like comics are some awful narcissists. But you know when you really see that? When comics start attacking comics that are doing better than them. Because it's only comics that are doing better than them. So what's happening?

Comparison, the thief of joy. Teddy Roosevelt. All criticism comes from a place of unmet needs right tragic result of unmet needs right and so there's this feeling What about me me everybody else sucks. That's what it is. Isn't there a wonderful world that we live in? Isn't there chaos and beauty? Isn't there so many things to talk about and you're going to talk about other comics?

Shut the fuck up, bitch. I agree. Shut the fuck up bitch. I agree. Shut the fuck up you whiny bitch. That's why it's good to have, in my opinion, we both have kids, we get lost, we'll do our work and we'll do our stuff, have fun and then we just play with our kids, play with the real stuff that matters, our wives, our kids, hanging out with them. It definitely changes everything. Some of our peers who don't have families and is just constantly worried about this

business is like, I don't know families and is just constantly worried about this business is like, that's, I don't know how you're gonna get off that treadmill. Yeah, that's not good. I would not be the same human being if I didn't have a family. I just would not. I wouldn't have the same empathy and compassion for people.

I wouldn't understand the development of a child. I talked about this before, but I really genuinely changed the way I look at human beings after I became a parent. Because I used to look at adults like they were just, oh, this guy's asshole, he's 36, he's a fucking dickhead. Now I go, oh, that's a baby. That's a baby that got terrible exposure to bad ideas

and bad input and mean people around him. And you got, you know got thrust into this situation. So now you see him, like when I see homeless people, I get so sad. And I see like homeless people that are just like, Mike, that's someone's baby. They held that baby. And now here's this person just leaning on the corner.

What is that thing they're doing? And like it's a lot of it in Philadelphia where they're like, totally like lean back. Oh, is this a crank or something? Yeah, that's what do they call it? It's the heroin lean It has not I don't even know if it's heroin. It's like I think it's some new stuff It's a new shit. This guy was like doing a yoga thing. I'm like if you could do that like it's Essentially, he's doing like a very difficult core maneuver. Yeah, Joe. Can I do that with a kettlebell? I was wondering

I was looking at this guy. I'm like, I don't think that's good for your back. But like, if he can hold it there, there's got to be some like very good structure. Structure, yeah. Do you do that, it's a baby thing, even with like Genghis Khan and Hitler, you're like, even when they're murdering, like, he's just a baby. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I do. I mean, I don't forgive them.

I mean, it's not like it would stop me from killing them. But what it does do is it puts me in this place of instead of thinking of everything as being static, that everything is this constant progression towards what you are now. Even though, listen dude, I love America, I bleed red, white and blue, I stay draped in the American flag, I love our country. I believe you. I do understand terrorism, terrorists, like old-school terrorists when like, you know

If America's like bombed their country for whatever reason and killed their babies They're like well now I'm gonna fucking go lethal and I'm gonna start killing everybody in that country when I can I just get it Where I didn't get it before I had kids But I'm like if somebody did that to me and my children and took them away I would just go crazy I learned how to light a cigar and I'd start fucking killing people because I have nothing left to live for, I feel. So I get it now. Of course, I mean, it's not a coincidence

that some of the scariest people live in war-torn parts of the world. Sure. Like the fighters that come to the UFC, the scariest motherfuckers are like the guys from Chechnya, like, you know, guys from Dagestan. Like, those guys are terrifying. Why?

Well, look at the history of that part of the world. Yeah. You know, I mean, you have to be a hard person to fucking survive right yeah, you know yeah Am I supposed to just keep holding the cigar you guys put it down now. I put it down every now and then so I just Put it down and now that's gonna be Set the paper sorry about that. Yeah, so all right those are Dices cigarettes in there, so don't take the cigarettes out take the fucking Astro Oh, sorry in there so don't take the cigarettes out take the fucking ashtray oh sorry what to do this is fun though why do you want to keep Dice's cigarettes in there

because they're Dice's he doesn't smoke them he just takes them out he holds on to them and he puts them in the ashtray and he pulls another one out he holds on to it yeah he went smoking again for a while, he started smoking again, but then he stopped again. Gotta be careful, my health. Yeah. Oh! You wanna talk about a great father and son, but that's Dice.

Dice is all about his kids. Very dedicated, you know, his kids play the band, they play at his shows. You know, his son is fucking amazing on the drums. He's a great guy. Dice is another misunderstood guy. Legitimate good dude. And also a legitimate artist.

Like his performance art, the weird stuff that he does in New York City for no money, for no people. Do you want the picture? Yeah, you're asking for a picture? So few people are even watching those clips. If we haven't brought them up, like I don't know how many views they would even have. He's not promoting it. He's not trying to go on podcast. He doesn't even tell you about them

You have to find find them. Yeah, if they're on a part if you're on a podcast, he's like you gotta see this thing I'm doing but then they want a picture Big shot, he's a real artist man. He's the best Okay real artist man he's the best give me some give me some okay have you been keeping up with the drone flying saucer thing hi have you been seeing like the space ships on... Did you see any of the flying saucers that they've been talking about? No. You would never imagine that that guy sold out Mass at Square Garden multiple times. That's what I was just thinking.

Nassau Coliseum. He was the fucking man. At one point he was like the only comedian people knew about. He was certainly one of the only people, Casuals. What is also great about Dice is, obviously on the side of both comics in New York, so we see him a lot, he's one of the most giving guys to the younger guys

when he comes into the clubs. He'll tell you about, he won't tell you about his feats at Madison Square Garden and all that, to you like how good he is He'll say here's where I was here's where I am now So this comedy game is like a rollercoaster and I'm living proof and just stay in the game That's he always tells me just stay in the game because you just don't know do not quit. No, he's great. He's great How old is dice now 60s?

He definitely 60s. Yeah, he 60s He will he gave me advice to go on the road when I was just hanging out at the store. When I was in my 20s. I met Dice, I couldn't believe I was meeting him. You know what I mean? It was like one of those things, like I can't believe that's really him. You know, you see a guy, like when I was 19 years old, me and this girl was dating, we were listening to his cassette in my car in front of my house.

I'll never forget it. We're crying, in front of my house. I'll never forget it. We're crying, bah! In front of my house. So for me, that was Dice. Dice was this guy where I'd seen him on HBO. This is crazy, he's on HBO. This is so funny. To now, getting advice from him at the store, he's like, you should do the road.

And I was like, really? He goes, yeah, you don't wanna rely on these jerk-offs for all your fucking money. And he's like, you don't need these people to you know And it's the advice I give everybody now Like you don't want to be connected where you're completely dependent on one source of income. That's terrible It's a bad place to be he'll text me sometimes and be like, oh Chris Can you talk and then and and then if I don't answer?

He'll say call me back when your kids are sleeping and then when you call him cuz he's like I never want to take attention away from you, from your children. So he goes, I want to talk to you when either your kids are in school or they're asleep. Other than that, he goes, you should just be focusing on your kids and not talking to anybody. So I was like, oh wow, Dice is like really about his kids.

It's like an awesome thing, you know? And then he'll go, goosh, and then he'll start telling you about, I fucking gooed on her last night. You gotta respect your family. I've noticed now when you, like my conversations with people have become like I did when I was in high school. I gotta wait till everyone's asleep

and then I gotta, it's late at night, one in the morning and the only people I can talk to is comics because they're up and you know, it's weird. You know, kids don't even talk to each other. They just Snapchat. Most of them Snapchat. I'm learning this from my kids. Like, you guys don't text at all?

She goes, I only text my family. So like, if she gets an iMessage, it's only from one of us. That's it. Everything else is, they're snapping each other back and forth. And they just like, take a picture of this. And they're doing it all

day long and saying something here's where my life is RN I don't know what they don't want a bigger screen either my kids don't want to go to the movies they think the screens too big it freaks them out they want to watch the biggest screen that they want to watch is the screen that we have at home or their phone I took them to see the movie to a movie they were like pout freaked out it's too big the screen screen. That's weird. Interesting. Your kids might have a little you in them.

Yeah, that might be, I know, I know. That ain't normal. I know. I love screens. Do you think it's bad? My daughters are the man I wish I could be. It's gotta be bad for them, I think it's bad. Well, it's different.

With screens? It's just the Snapchat, the social media. It's not good. It's just a different way of interacting. I think everybody's like blowing it out of proportion. First of all, I. It's not good. It's just a different way of interacting. I think everybody's like blowing it out of proportion. First of all, I think it's not good. Don't get me wrong, but I think it's inevitable. It's like if it's raining, you're gonna get wet.

Shut the fuck up. This is the world we're living in. It's a weird world, and it's better to develop the ability to cope and handle it at a young age. It's definitely not good, you know? What about college? Do you think like your kids, do you want them, I know we want them to go to college, but do you care if they go to Harvard or Yale anymore? Do you think that's more meaningless now than it was 30 years ago?

I want my kids to do what they want to do. I don't want to be that dad that's like, I want you to go to Yale. I don't think that's good. I don't think that ever works I think at best you give advice and it at best you always connect advice to mistakes Like I'll tell you what I did wrong. This is what I did wrong That's like when I was a kid. I always fucked this up I was I always whenever I would like correct them about something. I was like I did the same thing I did the exact same thing everybody does this You know and this is why and this is what you gotta know. And I always, I feel bad about stuff I did when I was five.

You know what I mean? It's tough when you have daughters though. I mean, I can't be like, just make sure you wear a condom. I mean, that's, I don't know what girls do to mess up. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, but you- It's so brutal to be a girl. Like you either have to get on birth control,

which completely fucks with your hormones Yeah, completely fucks your body also can cause blood clots like girls die from that I had a dude that I knew from martial arts and his daughter died. She was 17 years old She's smoking cigarettes, and you're not supposed to smoke cigarettes when you're on birth control. It's horrible Yeah And nobody even knows that like Like, nobody knows that. Like, if they tell you it goes in one ear, out the other, because everybody's on birth control.

And you don't think about it. Every girl I knew. And some fathers just fucking snap, like that guy just locked his daughter in a basement for 28 years. He was just like, well, now you're just never coming out. You ever see that story, that guy? No.

That guy locked his daughter in the- Is that Ariel Kaschner? No, no, no, this is, I think it was in Germany or Austria, one of those countries, this guy locked his daughter, he said he had built a room downstairs, a studio for her to like drums or something like that, whatever she was into, and then he went and had her go in like the most inner room of this thing that he built,

and he locked her in there, and she did not see light again for 28 years. How is she still alive? She's alive and she's telling her story now. I think he might have raped her too. Yes. Oh, God. I was up times and had seven kids with her.

Oh, that's what it is. Oh, that guy, yeah. Yeah. Germans are weird. How about that German guy that ate that other guy's penis? He answered an ad. Well, the guy asked him to eat his penis. Yeah, he asked him to eat his penis.

It is keto. And they ate it together, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But Germans are... He ate his own dick. He ate his own together, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But Germans are- He ate his own dick, he ate his own penis with a buddy. It happens.

Well, it wasn't even a buddy. It was a guy he met on Craigslist or something. Right. Wires get crossed. Germans just, you know, Germans. What do you think that is? I think it's just, it's something in there that's like very, hello. But think about how good they are at engineering.

Right. Right? Like think about, just think about modern automobiles and how many of them originated in Germany. Yeah. Bavarian Motorworks, Porsche, Audi, Mercedes-Benz, that's kind of crazy. Yep. That like most of the best cars come from this one little country.

I think maybe they're Viking, they're former, you know, they're Nordic tribes. that most of the best cars come from this one little country. I think maybe they're Viking, they're former, they're Nordic tribes. What about Iceland? Where's the great Iceland cars? They don't have shit. No, yeah, something about the Germanic people. The Germanic tribe.

They like to just get things done. And they don't have a lot of empathy, yeah. They're more violent than others, because you think it's just the Nazis, but then when you look back, you're like, no, no, this has been happening, like, you know, like the Hessians who like the barbarians, the British Redcoats. The Germanic tribes that went after the Romans, too.

Right, Germanic tribes, but they hired the Hessians. I read this, I read a book where it was, they were talking about, they had letters from British Redcoat soldiers from 1776 that were writing back to their wives about how things were, and there was this one battle, I think it was the Battle of Brooklyn where the Hessians, they had the Hessian mercenaries come first, onto land first and they started killing the patriot soldiers, the Continental Army and they were cutting their faces off and sharing each other, sharing the faces and laughing about it and the British soldiers were saying these guys are crazy, like they're running around with other soldiers' faces that they just murdered

and I don't know what to do with them, they're on our side, but they are nuts. And that was German, and then it goes all the way through to the Nazis, so there's something a little different about the geography of that place. You just go to their porn and you see them like putting bottles in their assholes. They just need something, they need a little kick

in the nuts. That's what it is. So, guys had this story a little wrong. Is that Joe List? The guy, so it was a cannibal who had an advertisement for a quote, slaughter victim. Right. So this was consensual. Okay.

And then he ate 44 pounds of his flesh after killing him. Accompanied by potatoes and a pepper or wine sauce served on good crockery. So he wanted to die in other words. So there was. So it was like an assisted suicide. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was penis too, they ate the penis.

They did, they fried and just tried to eat it. But it wasn't a surprise kill, this man wanted to be killed. Yeah. But it brings up underworld cannibalism in Germany with about 800 people. Yeah, so in other words it turned him on to be eaten. Yeah that was his kink. Right. Look at this what was fascinating to me but then the public was the testimony which how do you say

his name? Meuse. Meuse. Meuse. Revealed his obsessions and lifted the lid on an underworld of cannibalism which Meuse claims counts about 800 members in Germany. Muse told the court he regretted killing Brandis and has apologized to his victim's boyfriend, but he remained unrepentant about eating his flesh, saying it was the ultimate kick both of them were seeking. Right. How about this one? Psychologists have told the court that he was mentally sane. Right? I believe it. Sometimes you just like to eat. We did a whole History of Hyenas episode on John D. Rockefeller

and we found that one of John D. Rockefeller's nephews, I think Michael Rockefeller, was an eager guy, wanted to film everyone in the Amazon and whatever, and he went into this one part with the Asmat tribe they were called, and they just fucking ate him. They ate the kid. It wasn't sadistic to them. They were like, this is food right here.

We're just gonna eat this dude, and no one ever saw him again. He was fully eaten by cannibals, Rockefeller's grandson. So you're just like, that happens. Where was this, where'd he go? Was it the Amazon somewhere? It was the Asmat tribe. Asmat tribe.

Poppa New Guinea, yeah. Poppa New Guinea, yeah. A lot of cannibals. Rockefeller disappeared while on expedition to hunt for primitive art. His catamaran capsized in heavy tides and swift currents at the mouth of the Elanden River he and his friend clung to the canoes for nearly a day But Rockefeller decided to swim to the 12 miles to shore He was never seen again Dutch government conducted an intense search found no trace of Rockefeller was ever found case was closed

How do they, journalist and author Carl Hoffman conducted a four month investigation into Rockefeller's disappearance. He traveled to the same villages by the same routes Rockefeller had used, recorded witness accounts, and found documentation that he believes was intentionally covered up. Yeah.

I think he was eaten. Well, they say he was. They ate a lot of people there. That's a part of the world. That part of the world in New Guinea is really wild. Some of the tribes, do you know about the whole pedophilia aspect of certain aspects in New Guinea? No, I know history of Greece.

This is wild. Young boys at a certain age in this tribe are taken away from their mothers and they live with their penis father. And then they fuck these kids and they think that the way the kid grows to be strong is by taking in semen orally and anally. And so there's like this continual cycle of pedophilia and and kid rape that's just Engrained in the culture see we find that right at the end of the day I think we just live either by good ideas or bad ideas. That's a bad idea

Well, it's if you get a guy like L Ron Hubbard. Yeah, very persuasive and you know can trick people into things, right? So this is the beliefs of the seemen tribe of Papua New Guinea. Write a passage denotes a bot's passage from, I think that's probably a boy's, it's probably a typo, a boy's passage from boyhood to adulthood consists of six stages which can take anywhere from 10 to 12 years to complete. Throughout most of the six stages, the act of having a stick of cane inserted in the nostrils and the performance of fellatio are integral to the process of becoming a man. So sucking dick is integral to the process.

You've got to do it. The two practices have been described as inhumane, homosexual, and child abuse, with such actions meaning prison in most countries, a topic we will delve into later. For now, the big question was was why would they do this? In short, men are viewed as being born with the devil of woman around them, kind of like an evil spirit. They are thus removed from women at a young age in order to fix them. Women bleed so men need nose blood letting, which is the sticks going up their noses, while fellatio experiment is because the semen of the man possesses the masculine spirit therefore they inject the semen they

will become proper men. Oh yeah all right there's no way this society was not formed by some crazy guy who was on a serious seriously high dose of psychedelics. Hold on, hold on, go back, go back, look at this, this after the ceremony is complete the men then get married and live heterosexual lifestyles with the exception that they will now be the ones receiving rather than giving the fallatio. Maybe they're right, what if they're right? But Joe, if you look at-

So just having kids blow them, but they're straight. Oh, I'm totally straight. But what we're seeing now, this is cringe, but if you go back to the 1400s or whatever, this was just life. Alexander the Great, one of the most manly men of all time, we did a whole episode on him, found out he had a full boyfriend the entire time that the people celebrated him for. And a eunuch.

And a eunuch lover. And he banged down kids and eunuchs. That was a big part of sex back in those days. You got a eunuch, you found a boy that you thought was handsome, clipped his nuts, removed any sexual urges he had and then he would watch your harem of women that you had that you would take for the for the Empire and then you would bang him out and it wasn't gay yeah you know Nero did the wildest one of all with a slave boy yeah you look like my wife so let me

chop your dick off yeah now you're gonna be my wife. That's it. And then he wanted, he married him, and then he wanted to be the woman in the marriage. Nero wanted to be the wife, put, he threw on the bride's dress going down the aisle. That's how it was, and everyone had to clap. That eunuch's name was Sporus, and he had a really unfortunate life.

Was it Ecobelus, too, wasn't there was another one? Or was it Sporus? I think it was Sporus. Yeah, Nero was wild. I think we did an episode on Sporus. We did do an episode on Sporus. Yeah, and then didn't he pass him off to somebody else? Yeah got sick of him like yeah Yeah

And he and then he wanted to marry his horse and then he would dress down Nero would go into like peasant clothes and he would want to go into all the different brothels and fuck everybody and do and then And then and then if you found that he was near he'd kill you Nero is if you get into the mind of Nero When we did that episode, we were blown away by what this guy used to fucking do. He definitely had syphilis that ate his brain. All those guys back then had it. He also would go with a group of his friends

and he would put himself in disguise and they would just go beat people up and kill them on the street just for fun. That's what they wanted to do. He would have a mask on so nobody recognized him and he just got off on it. Yeah, he was just a... Back then, that's how they used to roll, man.

Jesus. I mean, if you wanted a girl back then, you would just, I guess, an emperor, you just go down the street and go, she's for Rome. And then just go like that. Give it like that. Parents would cry and he would just go. Women.

Yeah, just this one. You're for Rome, you're for the emperor. If you were that beautiful, you just got taken for Rome and that's the way the cookie crumbled back then. Unfortunately. You got that power in Austin. To anyone. You can go, you're for Austin.

You're for the mothership. Yeah. Imagine living back then, man. Do you think this is Republican Hollywood now? Austin, yes. Austin, yes. I don't think Austin was even Republican till about four years ago.

A lot of the country's Republican now. Yeah, most of California is now. Yeah. Very bizarre. Yeah. Just the high population density cities that are still blue. They're still clinging onto the dream. Yeah. Right.

Well, did you see the San Francisco lady they just hired? No. They laid a czar to stop fat phobia. Have you seen this lady? No. It's wonderful. Hold please. Okay.

Let me say this, because this is a city that's completely crumbling that has no resources. Policing. It has enough money to hire this person. My daughter's in the 95th percentile right now, so I agree with her. I don't want anyone to make fun of fat people. Oh, it's not making fun of fat people. It's literally like encouraging people to be fat.

Oh, they're encouraging to be fat. It's saying there's nothing wrong with being fat, which is crazy. You know, it's one thing if you don't want to be mean to people because they're fat Yes, and right know if you can encourage them to be healthy yes, and I mean I'm not the expert on GLP one agnist But this lady is out of her fucking mind, huh? You know I think there's probably a lot of side effects to all these drugs that people are taking to get skinny But at least it's moving you in a right direction because being fat is killing you.

Jamie, I just texted it to you. I'm actually giving, for Christmas, a few of my friends with Govee. Yeah. For real? Yeah. No, I mean, I'm joking, but... Oh. Yeah?

It was a nice bomb. It was a nice bomb. At least we're not talking about grizzly bears. If we're talking about grizzly bears, I know I'm really bomb it. Yeah. Yeah. Let's take a look at this. This is so crazy. CRFI If you're like many women you've been to a birthday party or a small office gathering an event

That's meant to bring people together There's swinging tunes some some adult beverages, and good convo. And then it comes time to cut the cake, and someone decides to ruin everything. Oh my god, that slice is huge. That slice is bigger than Beyonce's paycheck. Can you cut me half of half of that? A cake-related fat-phobic incident, or CRFI, is that moment when it's time to eat delicious cake

and it's interrupted by a moralizing impulse. Inevitably, there's always someone at the party who has to declare publicly that their slice is too large, and that the person who's cutting the cake, almost invariably a woman, must do some disproportionate amount of labor in order to accommodate their need to feel superior. Let's take a look.

Can you do a little bit, just like, can you like, scrape all the frosting off and cut it in half and give me two forks, because I'm sharing. Oof. Like a little bit more, like tiny, no, like less, less than what you're, smaller, please. Could you just cut my piece into 12 equal symmetrical

little pieces and put each one into a tiny little tupperware? What the fuck are they talking about? So that I can have a bite for each month of 2018. Thanks. Let's take a step. This is uh, what, like statistically they've shown that 60% of liberal women are mentally ill.

60. This is what that is. This is mental illness. Anybody who's answering a poll is mentally ill, so it's a bad sample group. I don't think anyone who's answering a poll is mentally ill, so it's a bad sample group. Yeah, I think it's a bad sample group. I don't think anyone who ever answers a poll is mentally sane. You know they say you can't judge a book by its cover,

but you can definitely judge a conversation by its haircut. That's what it is. That girl with the red hair, if I saw her, I'm going, I'm staying far away from that chick. I know what that combo's gonna do. Me and you have the kind of easier lives, because our wives are Republican. Let's be honest, that's why.

Look, listen, it just. Well, it's not that she's Republican, my girl, she's just an old school Latina, where she's just more like, I don't know, Chris, you're gonna have to get out there and work, get up there and fight, and when she hears shit, she's like, this is annoying, I gotta take care of my kids, we gotta do shit, I'm just not gonna get sucked

into the bullshit. She's kind of like just a, you know, she's an old school woman. Old school women like that, that's how it is. Yeah, that's great. But what this is about is a complete collapsing of a civilization. San Francisco is woke peak. That's like the epicenter. That's the event horizon of wokeness. And these motherfuckers who have no money for anything, they can't clean this shit, the human shit off the streets, they hired this lady to make the dumbest video about the size of cake.

Like, isn't it okay to want a small piece of cake? Why do I have to eat a big case of cake? And it makes you feel better? Yeah, because you want to be a glutton? Yeah, and just saddle up to that fucking cake and just shove it in your face? Yeah, right. Here's the thing, those people are never gonna be at a party with anyone who's ever gonna judge them anyway,

so who are they even talking to? Right. You know? Well, it's one girl who might not want to stuff her face. Yeah, but at that party, they're like, come on! It's like the guy who wants you to keep drinking. That's all you had? Right.

Have a shot! It's the same thing, alcoholics always want you to do shots. Sure. People who are addicted to food want you to eat bigger slices of cake and they make this ridiculous video. It's the mental gymnastics you have to do to make that video and then look at it and think, I think we're making a solid point. Yeah. And we'll just, we'll break down the first letters of a CFRI. You know. Do you think it's the collapse of a civilization like the way Rome got a little you know zany at the end or do you think this is unique in that humans have so much time on their hands because of the Industrial Revolution and then the technological revolution on top of that so this is just a consequence of the

tech revolution where nobody you know people working from home everyone's working on the computer it's a talking shit economy, and nobody's got, and they're losing their mind because they don't have purpose. Well, there's that too, right? But all civilizations collapse, so let's take a look at why. So most civilizations, they're a monarchy, and it's usually, they're run after they die by their children. And that's how it all falls apart.

Even if you look at like Genghis Khan. Genghis Khan, his family couldn't hold up. They couldn't run things the way he did. They didn't know, they didn't understand strategy. They didn't understand. He was a wild dude. He's a wild dude. So his kids did a good job.

They hung in there for a couple hundred years. After a while it all fell apart. But our society is different in that we have essentially, we have a republic, right? So we have a democratically elected republic. And they've done a lot to try to circumvent that. They've done a lot to try to have ultimate control over the media, ultimate control over the military,

ultimate, and it's mostly people that aren't even elected. So there's a lot of weirdness that's moved us closer and closer towards a monarchy, closer and closer towards tyranny. And then once it gets into tyranny, then you can only do that for so long. That lasts for as long as they can keep it going. Rome did it for a long time.

There's a lot of civilizations that hang in there, but eventually it all falls apart. If we can avoid that, there's no reason why we can't keep it together. We just have to make sure we avoid these very predictable patterns that the people that founded this country, when they wrote the Bill of Rights,

when they wrote the Constitution, they were trying to mitigate the effects that are just common in any group of society that's run by individuals or by a small group of people. They want ultimate control. It makes it easier for them to stop anybody from taking the power once they have the power. Look at Jill Biden. She's still like, you did so great. You answered all all the questions she wanted him to keep going she wanted him because she didn't want to not be vice president or whatever first lady she didn't want to not do that it's power yeah that's what it is it's that ultimate control and power and it's hypnotic for human beings do you do you think then that we're gonna be in a part

of society in the next I don't know 30 years where we're gonna start getting ruled by AI is is that possible? 100%, give me that letter. Yeah, that's 100%. Yeah, there's no getting around that, man. So you think the president's gonna be AI at some point? Do you know about the Google quantum computer, these studies that they've done?

I've heard of it, I don't know what it is. Where they're talking to each other and stuff? They're more than that. This is, Mark Andreessen talked about this, and this is the craziest statistic I think I've heard I've heard talking to each other. Yeah, they're more than that. Yeah This is Marc Andreessen talked about this and this is the craziest statistic. I think I've ever he was talking to us about the potential the quantum computing has but now There's a an equation that quantum computers solve quickly like in a couple minutes That if you converted the entire universe into a computer the entire every atom in the universe into a giant supercomputer, it would take so much time to solve this equation that the universe would die of heat death

before the universe as a computer can solve this and these quantum computers can solve it in minutes. And what that means, they believe, is that this is proof of the multiverse, is that this quantum computer is somehow connected to other sources of computing power in an infinite number of universes, and it's happening simultaneously.

That's the only thing that would make sense why this thing is able to solve this this quickly. Wow, so you're basically talking about the infinite potential for IQ that we can't even can't even imagine. We don't know how smart they're gonna get. So think about how strong chat GPT-4 is. 4.5. 4.5. See you can find this article. Chat GPT tried to copy itself when it found out was being shut down Wow when they're about to make a new chat GPT chat GPT decided that it was gonna try to in an unauthorized way Trying to copy itself. So it's trying to stay alive. Yeah, because a new one's coming but this is conventional computing now

Imagine taking the kind of intelligence that could lie and manipulate data in order to form an opinion. It does weird stuff. It lies about stuff. If they don't have an answer to something, they have a thing called hallucinations where they'll make up an answer. They just make up an answer like a crazy person in the 1980s before Google.

They just tell you exactly like L. Ron Hubbard. So this computer is just, this is like regular computers. This is the standard supercomputers that we're all currently having. What's gonna happen with quantum computing is you're gonna have computing power that's beyond your imagination that's also connected to AGI. Bro, can I ask you a question?

Yeah. Yeah. So there's a ChatGPD's new model, attempts to stop itself from being shut down, later lies about it, lied about it. It tried to copy itself and then overwrite its core coding system after believing that it was at the risk of being switched off.

Whoa. Yeah, so now you add that to quantum computing and you have a god. Now you add that to what's going on with the drones and Joe Rogan just solved what's going on with the drones. It's fucking AI launching these drones on their own. Could be. AI has decided to go rogue and is throwing them out there

and it's doing it probably for the same, we did when we got technology we all started jerking off right porn got huge and maybe AI is just peeping Tom looking at windows and stuff trying to get trying to get some material off when you say I do you mean Chinese I mean Chinese Chinese is that's who I mean long yeah Chinese I what you think that's what we're thinking over here on the East Coast. We're just thinking it's gotta be the Chinese. They've been doing it for a couple of years. Well, you know, they don't have the restrictions

that we have as far as the FAA. So the FAA, it puts a lot of restrictions on drone manufacturing, which is why most drone manufacturing is done in China, like the real high end stuff. Like it's difficult to do because in order to fly some of them, you have to have a pilot's license. So that gets real squirrely. You don't have to go to fucking flight school

to pilot a drone. When in China, they don't have any of those restrictions. And they also have a lot of resources that they're pouring into drone technology. Have you seen that fucking dragon thing that they do? Send a cube of drones in the sky and then the lights all change and becomes a dragon? Fucking wild, amazing.

They're just coming, they're coming. They're coming hard. As I think you call them, they're the new Jews. The Chinese. We should say that. Yeah, we did say that. Meaning that they're gonna rule the world. To be honest, we said that on a Patreon episode

that's supposed to be on a paywall. We're all joking right now. You gotta go to Patreon.com slash historyhyenas for that. You just said that to about 10 mil. So now we're fucked. I'm just a joke. It's a hyenas for that. You just said that's about 10 mil. So now we're gonna now we're fucked I miss a joke. Yes a joke, but that that shit's a joke. It's a joke. It's a joke Wait, thank you guys. Yeah, I GPT the fact that you just said chat GPT lies is actually really making me nervous I'm not even kidding around because I just put a down payment on a house and my accountant and told me I couldn't afford it

But then I asked chatGBT if I could, and ChatGBT said yes, so I went for it, and now I swear to God, dude, I'm a little nervous, because he told me you cannot afford it, and I said, let's go for it, baby, and I asked ChatGBT, and they said I could. Yeah, ChatGBT knows my name, has memory of the previous conversations we were gonna have.

Yeah, it's getting wild. So what can you do? It's getting wild. And it's nothing compared to what's coming. Yeah, right. Just chat GPT-5 is supposed, see how much stronger chat GPT-5 is supposed to be. I think Sam Alton was saying, just magnitudes. I know, but I still think it's theoretical

because they're still gonna move on to 4.5. There's multiple versions of four that they still keep putting out. Yeah, that's not what I asked. I know I know But I'm just just Google what how much stronger is chat GPT-5 every time you talk about it It's it's still in theory if it's ever even Jamie just looks good in headphones. Yeah, you got a good headphone head Yeah, it's well. He's had a headphone on for a long time. You can't paint the picture Jamie without those headphones on Look good, dude

Fucking damn I walked Carl Carl fucking pissed when It doesn't say it You know faster response times and the ability to handle more some I know that someone was talking about the levels of magnitude Stronger that it was going to be and I might have been Sam all right it will be but they're still it's they're gonna It's not what they're doing next. They're still gonna do like four point, I don't know if four point one,

but there's four point five is the next discussion. Four point five isn't out right now? No. What's out right now? Four point oh one, or four oh one is the thing they're talking about right now. That's the one that hit itself. You know what's really nutty is that four years ago,

you never heard nothing about it. No. And in four years years it's become something that kids keep getting busted using it to write papers. And now in my stepson's high school, a kid, a really smart kid wrote a paper, he's saying he wrote it on his own, but they're saying it's ChatGPT,

but he's saying I wrote this, and there's no real way to know, because it's different enough from the ChatGPT, but it also could be based off Chat chat GPT, I don't know. And he was telling us about how like, there's a big uproar in the school about it. Well, if you're correct, right? That's the problem.

If a kid is really correct, it's gonna be exactly what chat GPT says. Like if you're laying out some story about Napoleon, and you know all the facts, and then you pump that story into chat GPT, and it gives you basically the same group of, you know. Yeah. It's like you can change, I mean that's like joke thieves, right?

They change a little bit. Yeah. They change a little bit and they be, no, that's my bit. And you're like, everybody knows. So like you're going to know what kids are full of shit, you know? Yeah. Can't we just unplug them if they get out of hand? Just unplug them if you can anymore, no?

It's going to get to a point where you're not going to be able to do that. Why? Well, first of all, Google's AI, one of the things that they're going to do with their AI center is that they're going to attach it to nuclear power plants. So find that story. So I think Google wants to build three nuclear power plants just to power its AI systems.

Right. So all that stuff's going to be controlled by computers, obviously. You know what's wild that I did see our fans posted on History Hyenas? They posted asking ChatGBT to do an episode in our voices and ChatGBT did it. Just did it like that. It's wild. Easy. Easy.

It's like I'm Chris C.D. aka and I was like, what the hell? Yeah. Yeah. It's wild. And it could do it in seconds. Google signed a deal to use small nuclear reactors to generate the vast amounts of energy needed to power its artificial intelligence data centers. The company says the agreement with Kairos Power

will see it start using the first reactor this decade and bring more online by 2035. Damn. They all know what's coming. These fucking eggheads. These eggheads that have been stealing your data forever. All that, like finding what you're interested in shopping, all that, selling your data.

All that's led to them being insanely wealthy, and they financed the birth of God. Do you think that the first person who will live forever is alive right now? Who will get their consciousness uploaded and technically never die? Is that person alive right now? I don't know if they're ever gonna be able to do that that download consciousness thing.

Right. That seems so theoretical. Like, what does that mean? Like, also, what kind of torturous hell are you living in if you're conscious but you're trapped in a computer? Like, you don't die? Like, that might be the worst life you could ever fucking imagine. Part of what might connect us to life and joy and happiness

is the fact that there's ups and downs and that it could go away. And that sometimes people die and then you really care about the people that you see, you feel differently about them, you feel so much loss. I wish I talked to them more. I think it's all connected. If you're nothing but alive, you don't have,

who knows if you have, do you have emotions? Is that hell? It's putting no point to anything. Hey Joe, if I don't see you today, I'll see you in the next. Whenever. You won't see nobody anywhere. Like would you be motivated to stay jacked and hot

if you knew you were not gonna die? So what would you do? If you download your conscience, would you download it into another body and live life? And what kind of life would you live knowing that you could live forever? You'd be so weird. You'd probably be like a rich kid

that grew up with a giant trust fund. You're just doing coke and driving Ferraris into the river. You're out of your fucking mind. Because your life doesn't make any sense. No, yeah, you'd be jumping off buildings. You'd be that times a thousand times a million. It would be fun to be murdering a guy though, and him not dying.

You can't do it. That would probably become like, everything would become so trite and numb that you would probably like to be murdered. There might actually be less violence in the world, because you're like, you know, like you get it all out, nobody dies, and then you start to be like,

I'll find another way to get these emotions out. Your hair looks good today, by the way. Did I tell you that? Yeah, I want to hang an ornament right off that curl. Sometimes Giannis is a very interesting guy. He looks like he has hair one day and then no hair the next day, but today he's got a full head of hair.

Yeah, I do look like, every picture, I look like a different person. And what's good about us is we form one complete person because his eyes, if you look close, are too close together and mine are a little too far apart. So when we come together, we form one regular face. It's exactly right. That's actually true.

Now that I'm looking at it, it's a hard time not seeing it. He's got a small head, I got a big head, and then we form together as one. You know what happened to me? When I was using clear, you know, you ever use clear where you put your fingers on to go through the airport clear? So the eye thing never worked for me. So I just thought something was wrong with their programs. Every time I put my fingers on to go through the airport clear. So the eye thing never worked for me. So I just thought something was wrong with their programs.

Every time I put my fingers on, and then finally I went there and they're like, the finger thing's not working, you gotta use the eyes. So I just said, your program's not working, it never works. And the guy looked at me and he said, I think the problem is your eyes are too close together. Seriously, it's a real thing. And then he said, why don't we try one eye at a time?

Yeah, that's what it is. So then I just scanned my face across and I think finally clear registered that I was a three dimensional person and not like a mythical cycloptic creature. Yes, and it's true. And you know what we do is we speak things into existence. Like for years we'd be calling him special needs Stamos because he's a Greek kid, he looks like Stamos

if he had special needs. And now John Stamos is his friend, which is a beautiful thing. It's come out. We've spoken to him and reality is a suggestion. That's why we think we had a t-shirt for you that said reality suggestion, and then Yada's forgot it. I forgot it.

Like a fucking FF. So you mean reality is a suggestion like we're in a simulation? We initially brought it up because it was during that era where everyone was doing stuff like that, the fat phobia, cake stuff. So we were just going like we're living in this era where reality is a suggestion and we were making stuff up.

But also the way we cover history, we don't do it right, we don't do it wrong. We just are amateur historian enthusiasts. We're basically chat GBT sluts that Google it and then have fun with it. Because listen, history's a story. We can get the facts kind of right and we're concocting a story.

No historians were actually there, right? But we're just getting enough right. We're having fun with it and that's what we like to do. Also, it's well within your rights to be talking about history. History is all of ours. The idea that history can only be discussed by a historian is fucking ridiculous. History's fascinating, and there's a lot of shit online.

You can instantaneously get the facts. Just the facts alone are nuts. We just did, on the last episode we did it was called operation unthinkable Winston Churchill, you know about operation unthinkable. No, dude We were just doing an episode of this is why and then we start discovering this shit and we said dude This is a patreon episode. We can't operation unthinkable Winston Churchill the man who was defying, you know protecting England killing the Nazis when when the war was over when you're when Nazis were out He said I don't like

the way the United States and Russia are getting so close together. Oh yeah, I do know about this. So he said, you know what, someone's going to have to knock the Russians out, and the British were like, we don't have the manpower right now. So he literally went to parliament and said to them, here's an idea, we're calling it Operation Unthinkable, we need to knock out Russia before they become the next superpower and then they're going to attack us. You know how we have 40,000 German prisoners of war right now, Nazi prisoners of war? Let's give them guns and we'll march them into Russia and we'll be side to side with

them. And that was his literal, he wanted to team up with the Nazis to try to take over Russia. And that's, as we call it on the show, truth baiter Ginsburg that's a fact baby and that when we uncovered that we were like so none of this history as we're taught in school same thing we uncovered that they knew allegedly Churchill and FDR knew about the Holocaust but it was real it was yielding scientific data so they let it kind of go they may believe they didn't know but they let it go and then once they just started killing People with no science. They said okay. Let's liberate them. What scientific data was it yielded? supposedly because

Nazi scientists were doing different types of experiments with Holocaust victims and they were getting some type of scientific data because they didn't care if They lived or died so they would inject them with some type of chemical or some type of machinery. Yeah, it's this book I read called The Nazi Symbiosis. They talked all about it. It was wild to read that on a plane with a big swastika on the front cover. Geez. That's wild. I was at, that was crazy.

What you wanna do if you have to read that book is put a yarmulke on. Yes. Don't you remember when you were a kid, how do you make your own book cover with like fucking paper bag? I just walked onto JetBlue with a swastika. That wasn't a good idea.

Or just put a female wig on and just say you're trans and they leave you alone. That's it, and just say, hey, I'm cake shaming. The problem is you look like Aryan. I know. That's the issue. That's the issue, that's the problem. I get a little triggered around him because the Nazis did occupy my home country, Greece,

and I get a little triggered by his German presence. He's a German kid from Ridgewood, and sometimes he root, in history, when he was growing up, he said just for fun, he always kind of rooted, sometimes he rooted for that side. Let me clarify, I wasn't rooting for the Nazis. What I was saying was, I was, but you just, yeah, what I was saying was this,

just hear me out, one, I think it's an undeniable fact they did have the best uniforms. They were cute. Designed by Hugo Boss, they were cute marching in, that's an undeniable fact they did have the best uniforms. They were cute. Designed by Hugo Boss, they were cute marching in, that's an undeniable fact. Number two, just hear me out, if you listen to a Hitler speech, AI generated, if they translated into English,

and you just churned out Deutschland for America, and you're just listening, you don't know that's Hitler, what Hitler's saying is it just pumps you up. It's horrible what he did. I've seen it. There's English translations of it, it's really weird. Like when he up. It's horrible what he did. I've seen it. Yeah, there's English translations of it. It's really weird. Like when he says, when he's, there's a speech

where he says, we're up against Germany. We are up against England right now. We are two superpowers. And the only way to prevail is one must be destroyed and it will not be Germany. And the crowd goes nuts. You start to say like, holy fucking shit. This guy was a headliner.

Yeah. He was. You would have that guy in the mothership on a Friday, Saturday, no problem. You would. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no.

Yeah, it's weird when you see it that way, right? Yes. And it's also weird when you see the horrors of the war escalate till eventually it becomes the Holocaust. Right. You know, and it's also weird the ubiquitous drug use Oh, yeah, we have it still here Jimmy, or is it in the other room now? I think everyone during or is on something what with the crystal meth the Panzer chocolate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

I'm sorry shock a lot. Yeah, it was Blitzed yes fucking crazy book and I had the the author in here, and he's explained there. It is here it is Norman Oehler. This book is fucking nuts. This is nuts. They had the... Can I take that for the plane? No, this is my book. Fuck off. Go buy one. Amazon. Amazon.com. Don't you have an audiobook reader thing? No, I like to read at the words. I can't really listen. Oh, okay. Yeah, I have a weird brain like that. Well, you can get audio books or regular books on your phone. Yeah I try to I feel like I'm addicted to the phone I like to read the paperback. Yeah probably better. Yeah so but you know to each their own. But if it

wasn't for drugs they would have never done 90% of the things they did and then they they just descended into madness. Yeah and a lot of Germans if those five years from 1945 to 1950, that suicide rate of German soldiers coming home was through the roof, Papi, because they were coming off meth, they were getting ostracized by their own people on the rest of Europe, and they were saying, what did I do? Some of them actually were obviously, a lot of them were just horrific people that were sadistic, but a lot of these guys also, it's not like they had a choice,

they had to fight in the Nazi armor, they would be killed. And then they were all drugged out, so then the suicide rate tripled. Yeah, but let's not act like it was just the drugs. I mean, the whole Jewish thing was nothing new. I mean, I have a theory about that. It's like the Jews just always figured out a way to flourish

in wherever they were, and they were just good at economics. And I think when a country goes through economic hardships and everyone's suffering, they just look at the Jews and they're just good at economics and I think when a country goes through economic hardships and everyone's suffering they just look at the Jews and they go well they just get jealous and they go what are they doing and then it's an easy scapegoat. Jews just crush it in money dude they're just good with business. They're better at money. They're just good. I know man. They're just good with it. Yeah. Did you have a Jewish guy told you not to buy that house? Huh? Yes and I

overrode the Jew for Chachat Bt. That was the problem. That's the problem. Unless my Chachat Bt could be Jewish too, I don't know. I've never asked at that. It's probably Chinese. They're just smart. They emphasize education and they're really good and they've been able to flourish under

adversity. I think there's also the they stick to their own and that drives people wild. Right. You know, they don't like that. Yeah. Right. But every, I mean, Greeks do. Greeks do the same thing. Sure, a lot of groups, a lot of ethnic groups. Yeah, Greeks are pretty, you guys,

getting to really know Janus well, you guys have a lot of inbred qualities. I mean, look at my eyes. Yeah. He was too, it was not, my generations were a little bit further apart than his. He might have been third, fourth cousin, I'm eighth, ninth. Yeah.

It's not gonna hit. You go back to the Toba volcano eruption, the whole entire population of Earth was down to a few thousand people. So we all come from those people, so we're all little in bread. A little bit, right? It's gotta be.

I actually have a lot of, I got some Turkish genetics in me. I did 23andMe, so they have my DNA, so they can pin anything on me. They got you. They got me. Well, that was raped into your great great great grandmother. Probably. Well the story. The Ottoman Empire. This is a true story. My grandfather is from the island that used to be called Imbros which is now called something with a squiggly line over it because it's a Turkish word. The Turks took that island

back and my grandfather was sent away to Alexandria by my great grandparents because the local Ottoman viceroy or whatever they called it, they have a word for it, but he was essentially a viceroy, was like raping boys. So they sent him away and he never saw his family again, he went to live in Alexandria and then he came to America and yes, he opened a diner. Yeah, after he worked his way there.

What about that story you told me, I think it was your mom or your mom's sister or you're in the town. Oh, dude. Tell him that story with the tank. Yeah, that's, Lex Friedman loved that episode. He told me about that. We did a Battle of Crete episode,

and it's true, because my mother was a little child during the occupation of Crete. The Battle of Crete is a wild. His mother grew up in Nazi-occupied Greece. Yeah. Wild. And so what the Nazis would do is they would take a girl from the village

because they were marching troops all over the place, through the mountains. The guerrillas, the Greek guerrilla fighters, which was the local populations, they were also with the British and New Zealand and Australian troops, but they would pluck them off because they knew the terrain and they would just, they would pluck them off, guerrilla warfare.

So the Nazis were so brutal but smart in a devious way they would take a girl from the village and put her up high on the truck to march through that area of that village so the guerrillas wouldn't shoot so they were gonna take my aunt my mom's mother so they sent my aunt to go hide in the mountains and the Nazis came to my mother's parents house to her house and my mother was like seven at the time and they came with their flashlights they pulled the sheets back of my mother and supposedly like she was too small so they kind of knew they wanted a girl who was like teenager kind of tall so it wasn't

too brutal because it was like a little kid but it was like enough that it would ward off the gorillas from firing at them. But what is it, gorillas? Because if they missed, or if they got, Nazi got shot, then they would kill the girl on the truck. Yeah, they're basically going, it's basically a hostage, going like we're taking a village girl, putting her up, and making her visible,

because they don't know the terrain. Crete is very mountainous, you know? And so then they would do that, and they were gonna take my aunt. So a family friend who worked for the terrain, Crete is very mountainous, you know? And so then they would do that. And they were gonna take my aunt. So a family friend who worked for the Nazis because he spoke German, warned my family about it. And then that's when they sent my aunt to go hide in the mountains.

Oh my God. Wild stuff. Right. And then my parent, my mother said that there was a Nazi soldier who would come to their house every single day. They had to let him in and he'd go to a room every day and they didn't know what he did in there. It's a family mystery. Nobody knows what he did. They let him in, he'd go to a room by himself, and nobody knows what he did. Maybe he took a nap, maybe he was a spy, maybe he was a double agent.

He just had to let him in. Had to let him in. Occupation for three years. That is what's really scary about people, that they could justify that kind of thinking and behavior. It's scary that that's happened throughout history, and that's probably a civilized version of what would have happened in 1200. Oh yes. Well, like, Man's Search for Meaning with Victor Frankl, you ever read that?

No, I haven't. Victor Frankl, he survived the Holocaust, but he wrote it during, while he was in a concentration camp, and he was saying, I think it was, call it 1942, he was saying, if you would have told me and the people here in 1922 that this would be happening to us, we would say, no, no, no, those are the barbarians from 100 years ago that would ever do that, and now here I am, sleeping in my own filth, maybe being put into an oven so it can happen anywhere. And he said that the peace, he wrote it, it was like in the 60s or 70s, he was like,

he grew up in wartime, so all his people want peace. And he was like, it's the kids that he worries about that grow up during peace, they're just gonna beg for war. Always. He was like, that's just what will happen to them. Because they don't know anything other. He was like, but if you went through war, you don't want this, you don't want to fight anybody.

I bet it's very abstract for the people that are calling for war. It's like Lindsey Graham talking about, we gotta give that money to Ukraine. Like Lindsey Graham doesn't know jack shit about being shot at. No, no. That's a story as old as time, right?

The politicians sending the boys. As old as time. Yeah, and we do it, it seems, mostly for corporate interests. No, you don't think we're more of a corporate oligarchy, like more than like a feudal, like you were mentioning before, the emperor, the king dies, the sons. We're kind of more, this is like a new kind of

corporate oligarchy. It's hard to just call it corporate because it's also connected to government. Like corporate and government, just like the Chinese are in Inseparable now right, you know the amount of influence that enormous corporations have over politicians is crazy Yeah, oh, yeah, you know, I mean just look at these wacky bills like the bill They just shot down that people are justifying like did you did you look at that bill all the different stuff? Those in the bill first of all, all, there's bio labs in that bill,

gain of function research in that bill, 40% increase in raise for Congress in that bill, some enormous amount of money to build a stadium in Washington, D.C. There's a lot of nutty shit in that bill, and how many different people were interested in those things Right how many like you when you're saying you bio labs who the fuck is asking for bio labs some corporation?

That's gonna benefit from the bio exactly. I mean what the fuck are lobby groups. Why do we have lobby group? What is that? Well, what is that most expensive real estate in the country is the Virginia real estate outside of DC where the lobbyists live? Yeah, k-street to yeah, it's like it's like that in Atherton, you know where all the the tech dorks live Yeah, I mean what is that in our system lobby group like that should not be a thing. It's weird Yeah, it's the influence of money that has gotten a hold of politics in this country. It's to try to root that out So then what's the best form of government then? This. This is better than anywhere else in the world by far. We have the most freedom because we have the First Amendment, because we have the ability

to do whatever you want to do. No one's forcing you into a marriage, no one's forcing you into labor. You can choose your path in this country and that's what's rare. It's an experiment in self-government. It's not perfect. It's the best that's available. It needs to be overhauled, but it's pretty fucking awesome. Yeah, right. And it always, it's amendable, right? It's fluid, which is important because of human nature is not perfect. That's why I never sign on to

any like ideologies, utopian theories, or things. Because it's a mix of systems that works because human nature is so complicated and individuals are so different that One company will be run by a moral good guy Another company will be dumping toxic waste into the Hudson River and it's like you have to regulate you have government has to step in Sometimes a little bit to protect the people from Nefarious things like that, you know, right especially when I have a they have a obligation to make more money right here Yeah, they have an obligation your shareholders. They don't they're out. They're out this guy likes yachts. I like you on Yeah, I keep my yacht. I'm fine. You got a faggot. You gotta keep making that loot. Yeah, how do you make that loot?

You gotta fucking get rid of that shit cheaper. Yeah, there's a river the guy said it's cool dump it in the river Yeah, and now you can't say whoops. We didn't do that. Yeah, now you can't repair iPhones, they make you buy a new iPhone every year, clothes last like one wash. Change the charging port. Yeah, yeah. Isn't it better if I sell you a new one than fix it? Fuck off with this.

Right, and where do they put all that waste? Where does it all go? Landfills. Right. Yeah, that's not a sustainable system. Singapore has an amazing system. You ever seen Singapore's recycling system? No.

It's fantastic. It's really wild. I mean, if they could implement that worldwide, it would be pretty phenomenal. What do they do? They recycle everything. Like we don't really recycle plastic. We say we're recycling.

Right. I throw it in the blue bin, I feel bad about myself. No, that's not doing a goddamn thing. That blue bin is gonna go in the ground. Right. The only thing they really recycle is like aluminum and Some metals because it's cost-effective. It's too expensive to recycle plastic So they just put it in fucking landfills right you think you're being a good guy by throwing it into that fucking recyclable bin Right, it's not getting anywhere, but in the ground right that's not Singapore Singapore

See if you could find I know we've done this before there's a detailed Description of how they do it in Singapore. They use it to make this the the surface of their roads They take fucking everything everything they're the guard they have these waste incineration plants They burn things off 24 hours a day seven days a week And then they take take whatever is usable that they can change and recycle, they make new things out of it.

They turn it into raw fuels. Dude, it is so advanced over there. You look at that city and you go like, they started the cities in America and then they just shipped them over to the East. Look at this, they're using this to make bricks. They're taking this stuff and they use it to pave their streets.

This is all made out of this stuff that they've gotten from recycling. So why don't we do that? We can't do it. Well, they're isolated, right? So they had a problem, much like Puerto Rico has a problem in that you don't have a lot of land mass. That's the setup that Tony needed.

Well, Tony, actually, that's where the joke came I know I know he just needed if he just say they did not do it at a fucking political rally But if you're gonna do it just set it up Go you know just or even when it didn't work at the end go hey you guys don't know about the garbage issue No, you can't do it, or you don't know about the garbage issue You tell me if Tony Hinchcliffe didn't live in the 1400s, he would be like a very evil prince, like living in a castle.

Yeah, or a jester. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. He would take people for Rome. I think they were forced to do that. I think it was a situation where like, they've gotta do something,

because I don't think they had the same access to new materials and they just came up with a much more comprehensive way to... Better way. Way better. If we did it that way, we'd have so few problems with regards to waste. Demystifying Singapore's waste management system. Large part of the problem getting people to be more sustainable.

They often don't understand how waste management works in their city That might be overstated how good their problem their situation It's also they just listen far better than ours burning right? Asian people just listen they have a common theme and they'll just listen you're not gonna get a bunch of different people in America Just listen right back up please right so you can see what they were doing it from and I was trying to find the I was gonna read through it Okay, okay Find a good part of it Um I think that we could definitely do it better than we're doing it and if it costs more money Wouldn't that be better than just throwing in the fucking ground like yeah

We're so short-sighted in what we do with tax dollars, and we don't get a say in it And that's what's fucked up and the corporations just don't plan for end-of-life of the product. They don't care They just want it all they care about is their bottom line. They don't, it costs money for them to consider recycling or what's gonna happen with the product when it's done. I've been getting glass bottles of milk now from the supermarket because if you get this glass bottle of milk, they say the milk's better

and then I can give the glass bottle back and number one I get three dollars back and they say that they clean them out and they just put more milk in the glass bottle. Go old school. Well I go even older school, I just still suck on my wife's tit. That's it.

Yeah, so that's still there. Yummy. What is this, Jamie, is this their garbage pile? It's one of their landfills. Yeah. Their landfills are gonna be full in 10 years. Yeah, I think that's part of the problem. So they were forced to figure out

what to do with all the stuff. But their recycling program, I know, is way better than ours. They're just much better at sorting things out and making it work. Also note in that video we watched, that city they showed was China, not Singapore. Oh, interesting.

So they're building them in Singapore? Or are they taking them from Singapore and then building them in China? Or is it just- I just, someone made a video. Just China doing it. Oh, so it's horse shit. A little bit.

Little bit horse shit. And Singapore is a country, they don't fuck around, right? That's the country they'll get hit. We go get you'll get caned That was a big story when I was a little kid everyone thought they were gonna get caned for gum We get hit with bamboo sticks gotta hurt. Have you heard about this story in Vietnam? This chick this chick is like Hall of Fame level fraud like 54 billion. She's up there with Bernie Madoff What's she do this chick, pull it up, Jamie. Yeah, I feel like Rogan, baby.

Yeah. Jamie, pull her up. This chick is a woman, and she set up this elaborate scheme to steal like 12 billion, but it actually is more. And they're gonna kill her. Why didn't she have a mask on?

Yeah, I don't know. Because they wanted to get COVID. Yeah. Fuck that bitch. Yeah. Right. Fuck that bitch. That's it. What did she do? So she set up these fake shell corporations.

She was a stockholder or one of the owners of the bank, but a minority owner, and she was just funneling out money. She's gotta come up with three quarters of what she earns if she gets killed. That's a good movie right there. Yeah, that's a good movie. How do you cut nine billion dollars? She's called Joe.

Right, but if she does give them that much money, they just give her life in prison. Yeah, but she's not gonna come up with that money, because I think it's 54 billion actually, if I remember correctly. She embezzled 54 billion? Yeah, I mean it's up there. Yeah.

What did she do? It says 27 billion in this one. 27, 27 ever misappropriated 12 billion was judged to be embezzled most serious financial crime for which she sentenced to death. It was a rare and shocking verdict She's one of the very few women in Vietnam to be sentenced to death for white-collar crime. What did she do? She yeah, I mean we could look it up. It was amazing. She did it through a bank Yeah, I mean we could look it up. Let's find the whole story. It's amazing.

She did it through a bank. She secretly controlled Saigon Commercial Bank, the country's fifth biggest lender, taken out loans and cash over more than 10 years through a web of shell companies amounting to a total of $44 billion. There you go. So I was off by 10. Oh my God. Yeah.

I mean that's up there. $27 billion was misappropriated. $12 billion was judged to have been embezzled. Most serious financial crime, which was sentenced to death. Tuesday, the court said there was no basis to reduce her sentence. However, she could still avoid execution if she returns nine billion.

Three quarters of the 12 billion she embezzled. That bitch had so much money. So much. How are you gonna get nine billion? Give her credit. Imagine embezzling nine billion and be like, I need more. Yeah. I need another three.

I mean, that is fucking crazy. But give her credit. That's so much money. You could literally spend a hundred million dollars a year for the rest of your life. Yeah, and you're good to go. You would never run out of money with all the interest and everything coming in.

I mean, it's a thousand billion. So you have $12,000 billion dollars, and you're still going. Or $12,000 million dollars, rather, and you're still going. That's so much money. You think she's gonna be able to get the nine bill back? She's calling friends up, they're going like,

we don't know you now. Because she had conspirators with her, she had family and friends that were helping her, and yeah, look, so there's 85 defendants were convicted. Her husband, her niece, they were given sentences, but like, yeah, I mean, her friends. So everybody was getting a little taste. Everyone was getting a little piece.

Yeah, a little taste. It was a score. Fun, yeah. Nice score. It was a nice score. Hey, imagine. But to pull that off in communist Vietnam that I know they have a little bit of a you know

Periastroka kind of mixed economy now, but you got to give her credit as a woman. That's achievement right there is achievement I wonder how she got caught. I wonder what was the what was the thing? She fucked up on? She probably bought a diamond ring, you know those chicks like Giant Rolls Royce Who got caught crypto stole a bunch of money from crypto and got caught some doing something dumb He was just spending up by Lambos, but wasting all the money somebody just mean what Lambos is I suppose spend the money to make it on crypto. He stole like If you make billions of dollars on crypto and you don't have a Lambo you're an asshole

Yeah, somebody somebody sent me an email the other day and said that they have like, they hacked into my phone and computer and they have videos of me doing disgusting things and jerking off and all that and they said the only way that they can make it go away is if I, and they gave me a link and they said I have to pay them in Bitcoin. I have to pay them in all this Bitcoin. So I was just like, you know, I mean I didn't obviously do it But I was just like show me the video. Yeah, show it to me. Yeah, I'll repost at this point as comics I'll repost. Yeah, I would repost it with fucking links to my dates

Just I just wanted you see how while this is the government does not publish how many people are on death row in Vietnam Human rights groups say there's thousands. It's a state secret speaking of crypto. What's going on with that Hawk to a chick? She going to jail what happened now what happened to Hawk to that's my girl from her Well, what did she do over 300 hours? I think what does that mean she went to sleep and she hasn't woke up What did she do this has a bit on social media you mean? She's hiding coin was launched with her meme, and she was like the front of it I don't know all the details is that a crime she was no No, no, the pump and dump might be the crime the the thing was there was an enormous amount of money That was put into this meme coin by all these people and then she or someone representing her side of it sold

Like instantaneously and made a huge score and then the coin was worth nothing Mmm, so all those people that invested money, like one guy invested a million dollars. Like imagine, you're like, the Haq Tua girl? Yeah, that's a sound investment. That seems like a good place to put my nest egg. Some people for sure lost money, but it was definitely out of time to just troll

and be like, oh, I'm such an idiot, I lost $10 million on this, because I felt like people were trolling the whole movement of being dumb and following Haq Tua, but some people did lose money I don't want is she actually go to jail for real is that they that who know that the SEC invest crypto like that? I guess it depends. I guess they can now right new and what she did Well, it's like what are the rules what are the rules in terms of like are you allowed to do that? Like is that unethical but legal like are you allowed to have a meme coin and it gets to like a hundred million dollars?

You have a bunch of it. You just sell it all and you make 50 million bucks Are you allowed to do that if you're not allowed to do that? What's the point in having 50 million bucks? Right. You do not have trust in the hawk to a coin if I sell it. That's ridiculous. That's on you. That's on you I mean, I did the smart thing when I got out when I thought it was a good price Yeah, and I'm selling it to people they should take that and run with it and this would be the next currency of the world. I imagine, if you think idiocracy, if it's a documentary, imagine if the hock to it girl it overcomes fucking fiat currency.

Well have you ever seen how many coins there are? How many crypto currencies there are? And some of them have really funny names. Dude, one of them was called butt coin coin Yeah, I put 250 bucks in Hawk to a girls. I like her her name is just Hawk to a girl Yeah, her name is Haley. Oh, yeah, Haley Welch. Yeah, Biz partners are getting sued over the meme coin disaster Okay, the partners are doing it. So it was probably some people she got invested and she probably doesn't understand all that stuff She's only 22 or something like that, right? So it was probably some people she got invested in. She probably doesn't understand all that stuff. She's only 22 or something like that.

Right. It was probably the partners that went with her. They pump and dumped on her. And then she's left holding the bill because nobody knows who they are. So scroll up, I'm just guessing. I don't know. Legal firm of Burnwick Laws filed a US federal lawsuit

on behalf of the investors against the creators of the influencer push Hawk 2 a meme coin which fell on its face in the hours following its launch. Hayley Welch, who gained notoriety this year with the Hoctua girl following a viral interview about sexual technique, facing a disastrous Solana meme coin launch at the start of the month. Not only did the price collapse by 93% from a $490 million peak, holy shit, $490 million peak market cap for a hawk to a coin. With the rug pull

allegations quickly surfacing, but a cluster of connected wallets holding 96% of the supply led to further controversy. The hate only increased when it was found that some of the wallets were selling. Quickly, Berwick Law posted on Twitter asking for hawk buyers impacted by the plunge to step forward to create a potential lawsuit. Now two weeks later, the lawsuit has been filed naming 12 American resident plaintiffs who claim to have collectively suffered damages in excess of $151,000. I lost a million bucks. I'd be in that fast. Yeah, that's weird. Isn't that weird?

There's only 12 people, and they've only lost 151 total. I wonder how many people all told invested in the Hawk 2.0 coin. How many stone cold retards are out there roaming the world? I don't know, but this is inspiring. Should we do a history hyenas coin? I'm telling you do it and then yeah No, no, no, no, no, no, don't listen to Jamie. Yeah, do it get it real high and then sell make the money

Yeah, just fuck all those dummies that are buying your stupid fucking yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're announcing it right now The history hyenas coin will be available. We're gonna watch it. This is how you do it Yeah, you can this is a win-win for everybody You're gonna have a history of hyenas coin, but the only way to purchase it is with the hawk to a coin, right? Got it, right smart the right so that way everybody's a winner. Everyone's a winner Everybody's on the coin makes a comeback. Yeah, both of you grow the rising tide. Yeah, but yeah We can finally get hawk to our in our show that way. Yeah, this one viral This is a video of a kid. He's in his house stream. He was streaming this online He started a coin and then pump it

Like 50 grand what happened he's pumping it dubbing in front everybody He's like he starts freaking out here as he watches it go up all right, and he got to how quickly did he dump? He dumps it into this videos a minute long. He dumped it in the mini Watching it go up right now. Wait, what? He just recognized. How old is this kid? I think 13. Wait, what?

Maybe 15. Wait, I'm so confused. Oh, it's nuked. Why is it nuked? There's people watching this too. Let's see the other voices you're hearing. Holy fuck! Holy fuck!

You full clip? Holy fuck. He just dumped it. Yeah. Yeah, he did. Yo! Yo! Yo! Yo! Holy fuck you just dumped it. Yeah What is a crime how does it work so much Nancy Pelosi can make all that money. Everyone knows that. How's that not a crime? Yeah, I don't understand what the crimes are. I don't understand. I don't understand. I don't get it.

There's an SEC regulation against that. Is there? Yeah. You sure? We can look it up. Yeah. What about like when Tom Brady and Larry David got in trouble for the FTX thing and they were just promoting doing a commercial.

How were they in trouble for promoting a coin? Well, it remains to be seen whether or not they'll be charged or whether they'll be found guilty. But how could they even be remotely? Because someone lost a bunch of money and they said Larry David I trusted you Right you were promoting this thing that I think is good That's the reason why I've never promoted any of those because I've had offers to promote things like real money I'm not interested. Yeah, I don't even understand it. Yeah, if I don't understand it like you're selling what you're selling NFTs

What does that mean? It's an unfungible token. We're done. I don't know what you're saying. I'm not doing this. There's like too many fucking bros that are out there doing this. The Lambo drivers. It's like a fuckery culture. So do you understand crypto fully or is it still one of those things like... I understand it. Yeah, I understand it. It's just like it's weird that anybody would invest actual real money in it. I understand Bitcoin more than all the other ones, but even Bitcoin is mysterious. Mm-hmm. Yeah, there's a lot of weird

I mean, they don't even know who made it. There's all these There's a whole documentary on Satoshi Nakamoto whose real the identity is. Yeah, it's all controversial. Yeah, that's weird You know the fact that there's a certain stable amount of them though. That's encouraging You know that you can't make more of them. But that's exactly what artists do to give their art value. That's how you do it. You limit the supply, and then, oh, these are only 10 original paintings,

and this is what I'm charging, because there's only 10 prints of these. So you create the value by the scarcity. So there's nothing mysterious about that. Sort of, but it also limits the ability to add coins to it anytime you want and devalue it. Right. So that's what's more important than making it scarce so people like it more.

It is weird that we used to be on a gold standard and then now we're just on hard drives and we just sort of accept it and then the government like when they want to send money You were Ukraine forget about the fact that we're trillions of dollars in debt They could just come up with a hundred and seventy nine billion dollars and ship it over to some country Yeah, go have a good time right and you know There's wild reports about the amount of corruption that that this money is experiencing I mean this money has probably gone through more people's noses,

and come out of more people's dicks. Like, how much, where's this money going? It's so much, there's no way it's 100% efficient. Uh-uh. Not that part of the world. You have Bitcoin, Yos? No, I don't understand it so much like Joe. I just don't.

Stay away. Yeah, I just stay away. It's like when someone explains curling to me. You know the sport curling? Sure. I'm like, I don't, even when I get the rules, I'm like, I still don't understand Stay away. Yeah, I just stay away. It's like when someone explains curling to me, you know the sport curling? Sure. I'm like, I don't, even when I get the rules, I'm like, I still don't understand what's going on. You know, I was in Newfoundland,

and I did a show up there once, and the place that I was at was like a play, it was like a theater, and in this theater, apparently they have like curling shows, and so like when you're walking down the hallway in the back, before you go on stage, there's all these fucking photos of people curling, and I just went out there

and started shitting on curling right away, and they were so bummed out. They were so bummed out that I... It's like, it looks like the Housekeeper Olympics or something. Yeah, they're just sweeping the ice. Dumb. Yeah. It's such a dumb sport. Dumb sport. It's like bowling for retards.

Right, yeah. It's like regular bowling is too complicated. Right. But they're good. I mean there's people that are good at it. I don't know how they're good at it but. I kind of get it because it's kind of like billiards, right? Or pool. You're rolling this thing. You're trying to like just roll it just enough just this feel you get this feel to it you just like let it go now right let it slide sweep it sweep it sweep it get rid of the friction sweep that's what they're doing yeah that's what sweeping they're trying to get rid of friction right they only dust yeah yeah don't have snow dust right it's from the states it's so stupid

yeah yeah it's stupid but if you grow up and there's nothing to do and you suck at hockey Yeah, just curl you play that I guess it's the golfing of ice sports. Yeah, right. I wouldn't golfing is way more complex Yeah, I just mean like you don't need any real athletic talent to do it. Like how do you retire? You don't think you need all the golfing for golfing. Not really you definitely do for the drive You see these guys the board. Yeah. Yeah, but the coordination of your body to drive a golf ball. Jamie's a nut He's a Jamie town Like there's guys that can that are like paralyzed I can still golf. Yeah, I mean, it's really like how do you golf with your mind? No, I mean they can literally just swing an arm They're strapped into a contraption that sets them upright and points them. Yeah, I've seen blind people golf

I mean Nate Barghese right off. He's good. Look at his body To hit four yards, that's a hundred percent. Yeah, you can't just accidentally do that Yeah, I mean even John Daly you can say John Daly's fat and all that stuff But John Daly when you watch him move the efficiency Yeah, for sure movements, you know, like we're talking about Mark on Mark on some big guy I say John Daly's fat and all that stuff, but John Daly, when you watch him move, the efficiency of his movements. You know, like we were talking about Mark Hunt, Mark Hunt's a big guy, but still, fuck people up, right? It's still an athlete.

Like a lot of these fat golfers, there's a thing they know how to do, they whack that ball, and they know exactly how to fucking put a little spin on that motherfucker, a little wist action on that sucker. The difference between pro and being able to play the game is like being a banker and playing Monopoly. Like you ever seen Bartolo Colon, the pitcher for the Mets?

No. I thought that was a cologne you were talking about. This guy's body's the best. Look at Bartolo Colon. If you pull up Bartolo, B-A-R-T-O-L-O, I mean look at this guy, and he just threw heat in the majors. Oh Jesus Christ.

And he would just, you know? And he was fun about it. He was fun about being fat. He would sit in the locker room with no shirt on, eating cheeseburgers. Nobody gave a shit. Look at that one with the helmet flying off his head. Well, as long as you're good at that sport. He was good.

And that sport is a sport that doesn't require endurance. That's what's important. No. You don't have to do anything for a prolonged period of time. The furthest thing you have to do is run to a base. Yeah. And if you got to run to all of them that's crazy. Yeah. What did you do? Generally if you run into all of them you can kind of trot because you knocked it out of the park. Right. What do you think the sport that requires the most endurance? Obviously not thinking

about like long distance running because that's obvious but like you know what I think it is? What? I think hockey. Well, soccer too. Yeah, but the hockey, you notice how those guys can only be on the ice for like, Two minutes. Two minutes. And it gets so hard to skate like that. Can't do it. Yeah, they just can't.

Good point, good point. Soccer players stay on the field the whole game. Yeah, cause they get to rest and slow down. Even the best, Gretzky, they can't, two minutes. Two minutes tops. They can't do it. It's crazy. It's crazy.

They have four lines, I think. So when they go two minutes, how much they take off before they go back on the ice? I think it's like another minute or two, but it's multiple lines. They just constantly go on and off enough because they just can't, because they have to continuously skate.

Imagine what a hockey game would look like if they'd never let them use the bench. Oh, that would be hilarious. Oh my God, that would be insane. People would drop dead. Yeah, they would just drop dead. That would be wild. Yeah, it would be drop dead.

I've ever seen hockey live, an NHL lot, that to me, be wild. I've ever seen hockey live, an NHL, that to me, besides MMA, I saw an MMA fight once, that was amazing, and then second is NHL. It's very fast. NHL, those guys on skates, whether you know the rules or not, it's amazing. It's a very, very fast game.

Yeah, it's crazy. And the skill to be able to skate, I can barely skate at all, I'm barely standing up, these motherfuckers, whoosh,ish, swish, swish. And it's the only sport where you're allowed a fist fight in, 100%. It's written into the rules. It's encouraged.

You're allowed to duke it out, which is so crazy. That's the only one. Yeah, because I think people don't really know where the puck is, and so everyone's just waiting around for a fight. Yeah. No idea. It's grandfathered in, the punching each other.

Has anyone ever seen a goal when it actually happened? No. In real time, it happens too fast. That's why they have the siren on top of the goal. Well, you know what I really like on TV where they have that circle over it, so you know where the puck is at all times. Like, just a lot of craziness happening.

It's like if you're watching a football, if you're watching a football game from like the 30th row and you're looking down, like what happened? Who's got the ball? Like after the ball gets hiked, it's like where'd it go? Did it go to him? They're faking you out, you don't know, unless you see the guy throw it,

you don't know what's happening? And what about like old hockey goalies would do it with no helmet and just get the puck and then we have athletes. Oh, you see those faces, the way their faces used to look? Do you think those guys ever sat on the bench and talked about mental health? Nobody told them what it was.

No, I don't think so. You think they ever talked about their mental health? I think they had some struggles with it though. Oh yeah. Yeah, taking a couple of shots to the head. Oh, no question. Yeah. I mean, yeah, of course.

I mean, you guys would be terrified. Yeah, look at that. That's a surprise more than a diet. I mean, that guy's blocking it with his face. Yep, that's just what it is. All the scars that he had on his face from his entire career. Terry Sawchuck, that sounds like just a badass name.

Yeah. That is a face, man. Look at that, dude. Imagine if that guy gets mad at you in the bar, you're like, yes sir, bye. Yeah, I don't want that. That's a guy who's seen some fucking shit. Who do you think is the scar?

Oh, Jesus, look at his face. Oh, yeah. Oh, and he had a a mask on it broke the mask Fucked his face up. I mean yeah, I mean they flick that thing. It's so hard right at your face. Oh fast Yeah, who's the scariest warrior like from history you would never want to go up against like would it be like you know like in? Wild Native American on the plains a guy from Genghis Khan and Nazi Who do you who would you be like, shit, this guy's gonna fucking kill me and it's gonna hurt?

You have to say the Vikings. Vikings. Because they were the biggest. And they were on mushrooms. Dude, is that true? Yeah. I didn't know that. Those Iceland guys that win the World's Strongest Man competition all the time, like those guys

like the Mountain from Game of Thrones, where do you think that gene line came from? Vikings. 100%. Those were the dudes that were in that fucking boat with the dragon head at the front, and when they pulled up at your shore, everybody just ran. Yeah, that's it.

But can I just nominate someone? Yes. Who we're not thinking about? I mean, it's obviously not underrated because everyone knows about him, but let's just talk about the record. Alexander the Great, who led his troops, undefeated in battle, he's the Floyd Mayweather

of generals, undefeated record, never lost a battle. That's crazy. That's true. And conquered the known world at that time, took down the mighty Persian Empire. But if the Vikings were alive back then, they might kill him and his little boyfriend too. I don't know.

They had enough of him. I think so, dude. They killed each other a lot too unfortunately. And they were civilized the Vikings too. It wasn't well but did you ever see the biological warfare when they would light the I read this thing where they would they would the rats on their boat when they were going to whatever wherever they were invading they would wait they would get look for infected rats somehow they knew they would like they would get close enough they would light their tails on fire, and then shoot them over the walls,

and then let the rats run around and infect people and bite people or whatever, and wait it out for like 40 days and just then go in when the town was all dying of some disease. Whoa. It's another. That's dark. That's real.

The Vikings were, they were brutal, they would even kill like the priests in the churches, they would do bad stuff. Have you ever seen Alexander the Great's ruins in Afghanistan? In person? Dude, I don't wanna go to Afghanistan. Photographs, photographs.

Nobody wants to go to Afghanistan, that's the problem. Archaeologists can't go there to study them. But they have ancient Greek cities. They look like beautiful ancient Greek cities that are in the middle of Afghanistan. That's sick. My friend who served over there was telling me about it. He was like, you go there, you can't believe what you're seeing. He had a bunch of pictures of it. It's like, this is the craziest thing. It's like, you're in Athens. You gotta admit, the Greeks kind of nailed some stuff. Oh yeah. My people kind of, democracy. You know what you really should read? The immortortality Key. Have you read that? No. It's Brian Murorescu. He's a scholar who was studying the use of psychedelic drugs

in ancient Greece for the Illucinian mysteries. Where everybody would go to learn about democracy and like it was all, they were all like tripping balls. And they've found evidence now from these vessels, these pottery vessels that inside these vessels, they were drinking wine. but it wasn't wine. The wine wasn't just by it wasn't just alcohol. They would mix it with a bunch of different psychedelic compounds. And one of them was ergot. So they found residue of ergot, which is a psychedelic that gives you like an LSD

like experience. So they were all drinking wine and tripping balls and figuring out democracy and you know like fucking the stars and Constellations they were out of their heads Place of so much of Western society has come from that one spot. What's the last time you bagged out a little LSD? Yeah, you think you'll bang it out again one day before you go. I would like it to be legal before I admit to that Oh, right. All right. This is what I think. Oh, I thought LSD was legal new new new new super illegal Oh, all right schedule one well, I think when we realize the benefits of these things and Hopefully it's within our lifetime, especially for people that have PTSD like soldiers

That'll open the door for that, and then they'll have clinics where regular people can use it, and then they can get over a lot of the shit that people are struggling with. There's a lot of people that could have a psychedelic experience and snap themselves back onto a better course in life. And if it's illegal, that number of people

is gonna be very limited. But like all things, it's gonna have side effects. This is the thing, it's like there's no biological free lunch, and if you're doing something that's blowing your brains out, like LSD, there's a certain amount of people who aren't coming back. And that's real, because there's a certain amount of people who have a very fragile grasp on reality as it is, you give that person nine grams

of psilocybin mushrooms, and you've got a real fucking problem, they might not ever come back. Were you able to snap back quick? You could snap back. Yeah. It depends on what you're doing, you know, and when you're doing it, what time in your life, and what the experience was like.

But it should be something that's controlled. It should be something that where you have places you can go where they have a very strict protocol, they measure your weight, they know what the dose is to give you, you can do it in a calm and clean and safe setting, regulated, they have counselors, they have people that understand, they screen you to make sure that you're not on any psych medications first that would interfere with it. That's what we should have just like we have hospitals, just

like we have mental health institutes. That's it. This should be Psychedelic research centers that are connected to treatment facilities, right? There you go. I mean that's what ketamine therapy is Exactly small ways right? Exactly. It's very psychedelic. In fact, John Lilly the guy who created a sensory deprivation tank That was his vibe. He used to like to do ketamine in there He would do intramuscular ketamine so he would go into the sensory deprivation tank, that was his vibe. He used to like to do ketamine in there. He would do intramuscular ketamine. So he would go into the sensory deprivation tank and fucking bang himself with ketamine into the muscles because it would last a long time and just

whoo, whoo. It would just fucking exist in this other dimension for hours at a time. That was his thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean dude, I wanna hit a, we should do a sensory deprivation tank together. I have one here.

He's got one here. You have one here? Yeah, dude. Wanna hit it? No. Oh, yeah. He won't do it. See, he gets a little, he won't do it.

I get a little scared of stuff. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's worth being scared. Yeah. But that's not dangerous. It's not scary. Like, whatever weird feelings you have, if you can't handle it, all you have to do is open the door

and you're sober, instantaneously. It's different than anything else. But if it was a drug, if the sensory deprivation tank was a drug, it would be a very psychedelic drug. If it was just a drug, when you lay in there and your eyes are wide open, but it's pitch black and you're floating, you're completely weightless, if that was a drug, it'd be a very popular drug.

Now when you've done this stuff, most people seem to say their ego disappears over the horizon type of stuff, they realize everything's connected. Have you had that experience? You definitely realize everything's connected. And your ego, you realize, is both protecting you and holding you back.

Because your ego is like, you need a little bit of ego if you want to make it in life. Because you need to have enough confidence in yourself that you ask the girl out on a date that you're attracted to or that You chase the job that you want Or that you like stand up for yourself when you feel like you're getting fucked over in a business deal like you need some Egos you can't be completely selfless. You're not gonna get anywhere But then you have to realize that that you're you're very fragile and your ego is protecting you from a lot of like

true understanding of the life experience You know and one of the most profound things that happens with psychedelic experiences is the complete dissolving of ego And then you kind of see yourself and everyone around you in a way more objective way And you realize like oh my god we're all energy like feeding off of each other and we're pretending that we're isolated and we're singular we're on our own that's why like really ill people will tell you I don't have any friends I don't like people I don't want to be around people you know I don't you know if you've got

a guy who's a fighter pilot like I don't hang around with fire pilots like it's probably really depressed like something's wrong with them if you don't, you know, if you've got a guy who's a fighter pilot, it's like, I don't hang around with fire pilots. Like, he's probably really depressed. Like, something's wrong with him. If you don't hang out with your peers, if you're not, you don't have friends, you don't enjoy camaraderie and community, you wanna pretend that you're like this isolated, like dark poet or something like that,

you're probably very mentally ill. It's probably something really wrong with you. Well, we're hardwired social species. Yes, 100%. And we enjoy each other's company. We feed off of it. It's the worst thing they can do for you in jail is put you in solitary confinement.

The worst thing they can do, you're in a giant cage filled with prisoners and rapists and murderers. The worst thing they can do is leave you alone. Well that's why I believe the internet's bad is because it's fake community. Right. Right.

And that's why people talk like a fake community. Right. Yeah. Right. Right. And that's why people talk like a fake way. Right. They don't talk like they would ever talk if they were right in front of people. Right, right, right. And that's why I think it's bad

because it's messing with people's sense of what reality is. Yeah. And people are essentially disassociating when they're on there. Exactly. Right, yeah. Exactly.

Yeah. And it's just, it's a very shallow way to communicate. And I think that if you do it like that all the time, your ability to communicate normally and the ability to socialize and just have conversations with people gets severely stunted. You don't flex that, you don't use that muscle,

and it atrophies, just like everything else. It's just there's so many kids that are completely socially disconnected other than the internet internet which keeps them connected So they're socially connected through technology, but completely disconnected through like human touch Being around people fun conversation Adventure doing fun things. Yeah, they just exist in the same area and just get as much coming through the screen as they can Yeah, and it's can. It's crazy.

It's fake, it's not real. That's what's troubling and that's what I worry about my kids. I go, I want them to have human connection, long conversations, experience people's energy. Looking at someone in the eyes is everything. Feeling someone's energy like you said, it's like you don't feel anything.

The problem also with kids is even when they're together, they're on their phones all the time. That's a problem. Yep. That's a problem. And this is one thing about podcasts that's fucking amazing because podcasts are one of the rare times in my life where for three hours I have no phone.

Yeah. For three hours, unless I'm checking something or sending Jamie something, I don't. And the people listening are also doing the same thing. They're connecting to you without doing that. Yeah, they're just connecting to hearing you. Yeah, right. It's like a radio, a long radio show. They're connecting to you without doing that. Yeah, they're just connecting to hearing you. It's like a radio, a long radio show. They're not like flipping through,

scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, talking to other people, and they're talking back, and everyone's pretending like they're somebody else and catfishing each other. That's why I always used to like planes back in the day before Wi-Fi came around, because when you were on a plane, if you didn't have a movie to watch or something like that you just had to sit in that seat

and when you just sit in that seat you know you can't go anywhere I would get my best writing done right my best writing because I like forced to write I'm forced there's no Wi-Fi have you ever tried to go to the bathroom without your phone though oh it's horrible I can't even pee my it doesn't even work impossible my detrusor muscle or whatever that muscle is that pushes out your pee, it won't come out. If I gotta poop really bad and I only got like 1%, I will go plug it in and hold my shit

until I can get enough to shit through. I can't do it. That's why I think, that's why I think there's a, I bet you there's a spike in anxiety when we ask, or people ask to have their, have to have their phones put away at a comedy show or a music show, whatever. Oh, for sure. I bet you their anxiety goes through the roof

because they're like, I can't, you know? Oh, people complain all the time. It's the best thing, and you do that at the mothership, right? Yeah. It's the best. It's the best thing. It's better for everybody, too. It's better for the audience member. It's better for you. It's better for everybody. Oh, yeah. If you guys, if you were going to get eaten by,

would you rather be an animal or a human? Yeah. You have to get eaten. An animal. You don't want a cannibal to eat you? I don't want some guy knowing he's eating me. Right. You don't want him to have that power.

That's interesting. Yeah, fuck that. Yeah. Alligator. Crocodile. Quick, it would be quick. How about a hippo? Hippo would snap you in half, you'd be dead in seconds.

They drown you, right? Yeah, they just rip you apart. You don't want hyenas to eat you. You do not want that. Because what do they do? They eat from the bat? They eat you alive? They have no concern about putting you down, killing you.

Like a cat will kill you. Make sure you're dead before it eats you. Hyenas just start eating you. Yeah, same as bears. Bears just start eating you. They just start eating you. Yeah, they start eating you. Wolves just start eating you. Don't hyenas then throw up the food and then eat their puke? Yeah, they just start eating you. They just start eating you. They start eating you, wolves just start eating you.

Don't hyenas then throw up the food and then eat their puke? Yeah, they're the only animal. That's how they nourish themselves. It's a true story. Yeah, they're the only animal that eats the full bone. Only animal on the planet that pulverizes the bone. Their jaw strength is such that they pulverize the bone

and consume the bone as well. So when they're done, there's no carcass. They're the fucking best animal on the planet. They got pseudo-penises, they're trans. Transgender animals. They're fucking wild. The women are bigger than the men. I loved your bit about it.

They smell too bad. And we started the podcast because hyenas have always been my favorite animal, and we both loved history, and so we just combined those two things. But hyenas are hilarious, dude. What was your bit about hyenas? I didn't hear it. It was great.

It was a long bit. Oh, great, it was a long bit. Oh, okay. It's a long bit. It's a good bit. It's basically about their matriarchal power structure. Why that's bad. Yeah, right. Well, it's also, they had to do that

because male hyenas are such cunts, they'd probably eat the babies. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're monsters. But they're like a medium-sized animal in a world of things way bigger than them. So they're living around lions. They get it done.

They trick you, numbers, they confuse you, they're opportunity killers, they love to kill, to steal kills. That laughing is real, that cackle, that's a real thing. Yeah, and they don't really know what it is either. They don't actually know what exactly. It seems like they're having fun. Yeah, it sounds like they're having a good time. Yeah, they're just having fun.

They're fucking brutal. The lions are like these fucking hyenas again. Yeah, the hyenas just spoil fun. They show up and you're like, these fuckers. You ever see when a cheetah works so hard? Because cheetahs fail all the time and then they finally get a kill and then you just hear that, you just hear that and the cheetah's probably going, motherfucker! And they just come and they just steal it.

Yeah. That whole area, when you think about it, is like the proving ground for biological life. Like how are you going to keep the populations in order? How are you gonna make sure the predators don't get out of hand? How are you gonna make sure that the hyenas always have to worry about the male lions?

Look at that face. Yeah. Look at that face. Yeah. Look at that face. Yeah. That face is so crazy. Yeah. I don't want to get eaten by that. I just watching jaw muscles.

I think. Oh my God, look at that face. That's so nuts. They're hilarious. Imagine that's the last thing you see before you get eaten. Yeah. I don't know why they're funny to me. How many people die from hyenas every year?

They eat a lot of people. Do they? Yeah. Remember that picture that we saw of a hyena that's got an elephant's foot in its mouth? Yeah. It's just running around with an elephant's foot. Fucking monsters. That was actually our first logo.

We put our faces on that. Ah! And then we tried to sell merch at it and people were like, I'm not buying this bloody hyena. Yeah, and also it's not our picture to sell. Jamie, how many people die from hyenas every year? Hippos kill the most people in Africa, right?

Do they yeah, I believe so. I believe hippos are responsible for the most deaths And what are they like is there a village or something that like lives close to the hippos in Africa? Fuck around and you get in the water near hippos. You ever see the hippos chasing boats. They'll chase boats It's like a fucking submarine super territorial. Yeah, they're rough man. Yeah, you think of them as hunger hunger hippo Yeah, well that we make the most monstrous animals the cutest polar bears hippos. Yeah, yeah, yogi Yeah, they every kid has a teddy bear. You're like you don't want Tony the tiger. Yeah Yeah, right tiger how many people every year die? Let's take a guess before we find out How many people die from hyenas you ready for this? I gonna say, I'm gonna say that I think in the world

50 people die of hyenas and I think 75 die of cannibals. Wow. That's what I think more people get eaten by other people than hyenas. Wow. 1575 is my guessy-wessy. How would you, you'd have to count into places where people do it for revenge too, like Haiti. right eat people for fun Yeah, that's what I'm saying accounts pop on New Guinea. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Um, how many I think there's a very low number of cannibals Every year where people get eaten by cannibals. I would say it's less than 20 people eating by can is my guess and maybe

75 people every year die from hyenas I'm gonna go eight hundred to a thousand hyenas on the whole continent Serengeti yeah I'm Africa yeah I'm gonna go every year thousand yeah thousand yeah about cannibals cannibals I think is a lot higher I mean how we ever gonna get that number nobody eats somebody then goes and reports it right yeah so that's impossible to know. But I think hyenas you can track

and I think they probably get hundreds. But ask Google, because Google tells you the truth, trash, GPT lies. I bet it's not that many. What do we got, oh. I was trying to find a good answer. It took me a while to find an answer. I found one story where a guy was killed by someone

that said it was the 60th in that year, but I didn't know what year it was. 60th hyena or cannibal was the 60th in that year but I didn't know what year it was 60th high he never cannibal hyena death okay I was all right person killed by hyenas okay hmm yeah this 1998 to 99 50 people were attacked by hyenas with 35 being children 12 people killed only 12 killed I don't yeah I'm not seeing tons of good in so's wrong I'm in that part of the world you better be packing everywhere you go Yeah, we need a bulletproof vest shotgun big Bowie knife fucking everything yeah, you're walking around a hyena country

You better be ready to spray. Yeah, sister attacks are actually kind of rare Attacks very who gets people the most over there hippos I think hippos are responsible for the most deaths in Africa every year. But you know who really is responsible for the most deaths in Africa? Humans. Mosquitoes. Oh yeah. Which is so crazy. They've killed half of all the people that have ever died.

Mosquitoes have, right? Mosquitoes have killed half of the people that have ever died. It's crazy. Malaria. The most dangerous animal in the world. I think that's the most dangerous animal in the world. I think that's the most dangerous animal in the world. of all the people that have ever died. Yeah, mosquitoes. Mosquitoes have, right? Yeah, mosquitoes have killed half of the people that have ever died.

It's crazy. Malaria. Yeah, the most dangerous animal on the planet. It makes you think like, is this our planet or is it their planet? Yeah. Hippopotamus, animal that kills the most people in Africa with an estimated 500 deaths per year.

Wow, fuck. 500 people get hippo'd every year. 20 miles an hour they can run? Yeah, that's real shit. Oh, it's real shit. If you have a bad knee, you're in real trouble. Yeah. Cape buffalo, they kill a bunch of people every year.

Puff adder. Okay. That's a snake. Snake, I would, snake makes sense. How many people do you think die from African lions every year? I was thinking it was gonna be a lot, like 100, but I guess I'm wrong.

Well, if hippos are 500, it can't be 100. Like, let's just guess. How many people die from lions? If hyenas are, I'm gonna say 18. 18 from, do more people die from hyenas than lions? Yeah, I think so. Well, that was like in the 80s and it was only 12 people dying.

But who's getting close to the lions like this? Asshole! Well, they also live out there. I mean they did a lot of tribes like live out there. They're close by. There's a tribe There's a village in Africa. I saw it was on that geo that hyenas come in and get fed there. Yeah Hyenas walk into you saw that right where they actually feed them So they have a deal and actually they believe helps keep them safe because the hyenas know they don't have to kill anyone They'll just get the food Breakers yeah, I think that's probably smart like make friends with the hyenas

Why not you know well I'm gonna keep them as pets you ever see the dudes walk around with them with chains on them Yeah, yeah wild. Yeah, that's a gangster movie walk around with a fucking hyena. Yeah, they're big too Did if we ever do like a hyena like a buck 50 So like a mastiff looking yeah, it's kind of like probably a German Shepherd or mastiff look a than a shepherd right probably I don't know cuz they're like they're like why they're not that Like they're kind of compact so I don't know I don't know what they're can you get him in the u.s. You can't get no you know in here, right maybe get him in Texas

Yeah, we're gonna Florida Texas has a lot of shit here Like could you bring one out on stage on a show like if you've got clearance if you're a Ted Nugent Ted Nugent in Texas Could bring hyenas on stage. I'll bring one out. You still ride a buffalo Yeah, you never see Ted Nugent riding a buffalo No, he would he had a buffalo that he could ride and he would ride it on stage. And like, he's doing a show, and he's on a fucking buffalo in front of all these people. You know, Ted Nugent is the only guy who I've ever heard who made me understand meat eating

and how it's no less moral than, he's the only guy who made it make sense in my head. He goes, oh, you think you're a good person because you're only eating the vegetables? And then he talked about how many animals have to be killed in order to keep those vegetables from being eaten by other animals. Look at this.

Riding Buffalo. Wild kid. Wow. His son owns a bar on Staten Island, and I didn't know, and he was like, yeah, my- Rocco? Oh, it was his, the kid didn't know he was his son. Yes, you met this kid? Yeah, Ted. The kid and I didn't know. And he was like, yeah, my Ted. Rocco? Oh, it was his, the kid didn't know he was his son. Yes, you met this kid? Oh, the other one.

The kid that he didn't know was his son. Ted Jr., and he was like, yeah, Ted Nugent's my pop. He's a really cool guy. And I was like, oh shit. He was like, yeah dude, it's pretty fucking wild. But you ever hear him explain that? And I was like, oh yeah. He explained it on this podcast.

Oh, he did? Is that where it was from? Oh my God, I was like, oh yeah. There's a red curtain behind him. Yeah, that's right. And I was like, oh my God, nobody ever thinks of that. What is Ted Nugent fame it? What is he was he a politician? What was Ted Nugent stranglehold son? You don't you don't ever heard of no stranglehold You never heard that sorry no here. I come again now, baby

You don't know that song. Oh my god. You know it play stranglehold. Yeah, I'm sorry So he was a musician greatest guitar riffs in all of rock and roll. I'm gonna be honest if I know it. Come on son. So far it's not ringing a bell. Hold up. So far it's not ringing a bell. Hold up. It's just picking up son. Here we go. You know what?

No. You don't know. How dare you. Hold up. I don't think so. I've heard this song. Yes. Yeah.

Now I've heard this song. Yes, yeah. Now I've heard that part. Hold up. This is a huge, huge hit. I don't know it. Who's the best guitarist of all time? Hendrix. Billy Ray?

Hendrix. Hold on. All right, we're good Stranglehold yeah, so he's a big cat scratch fever another big song Okay, had a bunch of good songs, but then what happened then he got into politics and well It's just he's a bow hunter and like very vocal about you know social issues and that's kind of a maniac right yeah It's kind of a nutty dude, but he's fun. Yeah, so then how does he have a son in Staten Island that I know well You know I think he didn't know it was his son right it was one of those deals But they're club there is another son son Rocco that I've met

right He said he's a fun guy. Yeah It's a powerful name With everything he says, but that's the case with a lot of people yeah You know yeah teach their own I think Hendrix is the greatest right when it comes to guitarist because Hendrix changed songs with his guitar like Eric Clapton famously when he saw Hendrix play for the first time like what am I doing? Why am I even doing is Eric Clapton? Right Eric Clapton Layla

Why am I even doing this Eric Clapton right Eric Clapton Layla? I mean he was amazing. How about Billy Ray Vaughn though Stevie Ray Vaughn? Sorry Stevie Ray Vaughn Jesus Christ Yeah, Stevie Ray Vaughn was amazing. He used to play at our club. Yeah, I can't believe I see Billy Ray Vaughn I got him confused with Billy Ray Cyrus Don't tell my heart my achy breaky heart. Yeah, Jesus Christ Don't tell my heart. My achy breaky heart. Jesus Christ. Tim Panalli is one of my favorite songs. Have you ever seen in the corridor

when you're going on stage at the mothership, those photos of Steve Ray Vaughn? Those are him on stage at the Ritz. Oh crazy. From 1983. Wow. Yeah, he performed there, punch times. Willie Nelson performed there.

Crazy. Yeah. Yeah, that place has some history. Oh, you can feel it, dude. It's burned in there. I brought I brought in ghost hunters to check it out Sam and Colby brought in ghost hunters. They find it Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, I don't know what's real Yeah, but it someone was murdered there. Someone was definitely shot there. I think in the 70s, right?

We were in person you want to be a nudie movie theater, and it was a pool hall. So it was like a nudie movie theater, a pool hall, it was a punk rock club. There's like a lot of history in there. Right, people of the night in there. Do you think it's possible that it was built on an Indian burial ground?

Indian burial ground? It's so much better that you fucked that up. You know, there used to be a swastika on the wall. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so we when we tore down so there's like, you know Car, you know wall board and you tear down the wall board you get to the raw brick and in the raw brick There's a fucking swastika on the wall and we're like, this is crazy. And so while we're building the place up You know I come in like four months later. I'm like, Hey guys, why is the fucking swastika still here? Like we're going to open six months. You got to get rid of the swastika.

So they tell one of the construction guys to take off the paint where the swastika is. And so you know what he does? He takes it off in the shape of the swastika. So he cleans. So now it's brighter. Now it's like bright white. It's like, Hey, it's still a fucking swastika. Get it off the wall. Jesus Christ. Was it the swastika from like the Hindu symbol before?

No, no, no. It was probably from the punk rock days. Somebody probably thought they were being crazy. Fucking fuck yeah. Fucking yeah. Probably someone being a rebel. I'm a rebel. And they threw it up.. And they threw it up. Yeah, they threw it up. They painted it on the wall and it stayed there. Wow.

Yeah. They never cleaned it up. This is so crazy. That reminds me of the old punchline in Atlanta that had the Vince champ signature. This is red hot chili peppers. Oh wow. Just fully naked on stage.

Yeah, with socks over their dicks, remember? Oh yeah. They used to do that. That was a good move back then. Yeah. You get away with that. Show your pubes. Why not?

Cover your balls in your cack with a sock. Throw it up. Cack. They got good bodies, nice lean bods. They did, yeah. They're still going. I saw a thing that said, like, hunter-gatherers, their bodies, not only the flexibility they had is unmatched,

but they actually had bigger brains. You ever see this, that they actually think that they were smarter than us? They had bigger heads and bigger brains? Well, they probably had to process a lot of things. It's like, what is smart? Is it smart to just be able to use chat GPT and find answers to things? Or is it smart to have to figure stuff out about nature to stay alive? Right.

You know, there's different kinds of intelligence. If you take like the smartest guy ever and you let him loose in the Amazon, how long is he gonna live? He's not gonna live very long. Stephen Hawking's not gonna make it. Hunter gatherers generally had larger brains compared to later human populations as the demands of their lifestyle,

including complex foraging strategies and navigating diverse environments, likely put selective pressure on the evolution of larger brain capacity for problem solving and planning. That makes sense. Expensive tissue hypothesis, interesting, which suggests that a diet rich in meat allowed for the energy expenditure needed to maintain a larger brain. Did you see those, you know, they found a new population of humans that existed as recently

as I think a hundred thousand, 100,000 years ago. But they found them in China, and they have much larger heads. Really? Yeah, they thought they were Denisovans, I think, at one point in time, which also is a fairly new discovery. They found Denisovans in 2010.

But this is another one. This is another new species of human being that they studied, that they found, Raoul. And they had large heads Haven't they found like 12 like 11 different hominids now is like there's quite a few Yeah, it's quite a few, you know, including the really controversial ones like homo floriensis or flori Esis is Island of flores there were little tiny squeaks people little squeaks little tw Yeah late 1970s. Yeah, there it is homo. Juliusis

juliensis Fossils began of belonging to 16 individuals were found at two different locations in China They appeared to belong to unique species thousands of artifacts stone tools and animal bones This one is the larger headed one. Is that the same one? Is that it same one? Is that it? Cause it says in the late seventies, fossils. I think this is large. I know I have a photo of it here.

I'll send it to you. Where's my phone? I know I have, I saved it because I wanted to look at it. Yeah, Dragon Man, that's it. Newly complete skull discovered in China in 1930 is a basis for the proposed new human species, H longi, that's it, known as Dragon Man. Skulls found in 33 Shanghua River in Harbin, China where a bridge was being built. Okay, so skull is a combination of ancient and modern features including a large brain

similar to modern humans and Neanderthals, a low forehead. This was it. But how do they know that these are, couldn't it just be like a weird looking kid? Like if me and Janos were laying down, you found our skeletons, you would think we might be different types of species. I mean he's got a peanut head and I have a head like a Cro-Magnum. Good point, right? If you found Shaq buried right next to Bridget the Midget.

It could just be different people. Yeah, yeah. Good point. You want to talk about fumes, these kids definitely have fumes. Neanderthals, oh my god, the scent must have fumes. Oh my god, must have been bad dude. Yeah, big time. Yeah, here Jamie, I think this is a different thing, I'm going to send it to you right now, I'm going to send you the title. I just saved it on my phone so I could look at it later.

I didn't really look at it too much. But they keep finding these new versions of humans. So it's like, how many of them were there and why did we succeed? What was so great about it? I think we were the most vicious, right? Dogs. We just killed off the other ones? Dogs.

You think dogs? Dogs. That's the answer. I know, dude. You're 100% positive. My street smart says it, science says it. It's nation in the understanding of how, but it's pretty solid that that's what gave us the edge.

That we train dogs. That we domesticated dogs. We teamed up with dogs and we had a symbiotic relationship and we were able to protect ourselves better. So this is it. Large head people, mysterious new form of ancient human emerges. This is it. So a provocative new piece of nature has proposed a whole new group of ancient human emerges. This is it. So provocative new piece of nature's as proposed a whole new group

of ancient humans, cousins of the Denisovans and Neanderthals that once lived alongside homo sapiens in eastern Asia more than 100,000 years ago. Brains of these extinct humans who probably hunted horses in small groups were much bigger than any other hominid of their time, including our own species. This is it. The large head people, yeah. So that's it. It is that name though. Oh no, no, in the past it says. Some science have attributed to it.

But that's not what they're saying. So they think it's a different. They attribute it to the Denisovans is what it says. Some scientists have attributed the Jularan fossils to Denisovans. Right. Whatever, but one sub-design. Has there?

In the past. So now they think it's a totally different thing, right? I don't know people late horses Oh, yeah, is every animal been eaten? Oh a lot of you lead horses, man Yeah, stuff caught rockman off the number one contender in the welterweight division says it's his favorite food horse meat Yeah, he's from Kazakhstan. He rides horses and he eats horses. He's like, I love horse. He loves them all the way You ever tried it? Yeah, I've had a horse good I had it in Montreal. There's a there's a restaurant in Montreal. One of the best restaurants in the world Shout out to Joe beef. Oh, of course Oh, yeah, incredible place and we went there Ari and I we had I went with Duncan too

We had horse tartare and we had horse loin and it was good fucking really good. It's it's game. It's like wild game It's like eating an antelope or eating an elk. Right. It's real similar. It's not bad. But I remember it was all in the family. When the bunkers were poor, they weren't doing so well, and Edith went to the store and she bought horse meat.

And she served it to Archie. And it was like a big deal. It's like, I'm eating this horse. You remember that episode? I never saw it. I don't, but again, another good impression. I remember it was like a real problem in the family that she fed him horse meat.

But they were so poor, they didn't have any meat. Yeah, well I just feel bad for horses. I mean, they lug us around for, you know. They're also very sweet. Yeah, I love them. Like, they're connected to people. I can't eat them. You can get connected to a horse.

Yeah, I can't eat horses, I can't eat dogs. I just can't do it. Dogs get eaten a lot, unfortunately, right? I think dogs and humans are connected genetically. I think so too. I think there's a place in our brain that kind of matches up with them. And like, yeah, we evolve together.

Something's up, it's magical. Yeah, my dog, he's a part of my family. I'm connected to that dog. Yeah, me too. See, I don't want a dog, but maybe I should get a dog. You think I should just do it? Dogs are great, but you're a weirdo. You'd probably give him away.

No, I would. You'd probably say, I can't take it anymore, so I gave it to this Puerto Rican family. I did. And they raised it to be an attack dog, and I feel bad, now he's attacking people. I would, I would. I gotta be better with dogs.

Like that fucking dream house you got rid of, and then you moved to the city like a retard like a fucking retard now And now I bought one that was too expensive because chat GPT told me to Why didn't you try to buy your old house back because they did you try I did and they want to sell it They won't sell it the guys won't sell it, but what can I do? What can you do nothing? I gotta do that anymore don't call him now when you have like him and I talk about much more logical person He is he is his brain. He's he's is, he's more kind of controlled than me. I go a little wild and he kinda keeps me back.

Well, I mean, I'm not gonna say I said it, but I don't know how I controlled him, but it was bought by a Muslim family. A Palestinian family on October 8th. Yeah, so. After October 7th, the next day is when we sold on October 8th in my. That October 8th?

That October 8th, Palestinians moved in October 8th. They move quick quick. Yeah, they came right in I see the writing on the wall Well, they see that they're in a place where they can accomplish it. So they're like we can actually live there Yeah, and they just do it. So they moved in big and yeah, and my neighbors were Kind of mad that we just picked up and left. What can you do? I had to go I had to move to Queens. You didn't have to. No. You should've called somebody. That's the time you should call me.

Well now I'll know, now I know. Yeah, please do. I'll be like, what the fuck are you talking about? You're like, you're right, you're right. Yeah, right. As soon as we get out of here, I'm gonna call my accountant and see if we can rescind that offer or are we locked in legally?

Oh, shit! I just found out Chad should be teased liar! Do you get panicky when you do things like that? I get real panicky. Yet you still do these compulsive things. I still do it because I think I don't do drugs. So I think I get, and so this is a, my father was a compulsive gambler

and told me never to gamble. So I thought I escaped because I don't know anything about cards and sports gambling. I don't know anything about it. You do it with life choices. Yes, which is kind of a little riskier. A lot of people do. Yep, I get a lot of life choice gamblers out there.

But now I'm looking for peace. I'm looking for my path to peace, so I'm trying to just, you know, be peace. Radical acceptance. Radical acceptance. Being friendly with my present, being gentle with life. Therapy is bad. We're trying, baby. Yeah.

Scary. Scary. You can just run mountains or something. That's what it is. Well, I tried to, but I got a bad Achilles. That can be fixed. I know, but I've been trying for six've been trying for six months your Achilles. I don't know man It's it hurts. Well, I have tendinosis in the Achilles and they did the x-ray and they see some scar tissue in there So they actually told me why don't you get stem cells? They well, I can't get him in New York. Can't I'm here here?

I'll come down here. They told me PRP that'll help to spin the blood. Yeah. Yeah, yeah platelet rich plasma Yeah, I'll do that. Yeah, but you should get stem cells while you're here How long you in town for I go home tonight? Damn, but I can come back. Okay. Yeah back. All right you booked at the club anytime No, just come back and when you come back, we'll set it up. Do you go waste well before? Okay? Yeah, yeah, and I'll get a little stuff. It's a buddy mine. My friend Evan had a fucked up Achilles It was bothering him for years. Yeah, you got stem cell that ain't gone pain really. Yeah, it's bothering for years That's me. I've been two years with this. I have a I have a growth on the back of my heel

Oh from the bone. Yeah, like the bones broke irritated. Yep. Yeah. Yep, and I and it's all fucked up, but I do have a clean colon I had two polyps under three centimeters. We're good to go, baby. Congratulations. Clean ass, so to see. We got our colonoscopies a month apart. Everyone should get a colonoscopy starting at 40. Everyone should get it. It's on the rise with young people. You know what you could really do? You could do a comprehensive blood screen

to test you for all cancers, not just asshole cancer. Well, they have that now. It's a lot easier and it's better. You never did a colonoscopy? I had one once. Right. How dare you bring it up? Why, what's wrong with it? Nothing. It's fine. You never did a colonoscopy? I had one once. Right. How dare you bring it up? Why, what's wrong with it?

Nothing. It's fine. I know, I know. I didn't wake up that hard. I think that if you go, I didn't have a colonoscopy, no. I had an exam where they go in there with their fingers. I didn't go in there with a microscope. They didn't put the scope in there?

No. He woke up during his, because he liked it. I woke up. You woke up hard on? I swear to God. Checking off? No, I wasn't even hard. I'm not even fucking around. I woke up. I swear to God. You worked up a hard on? No, I wasn't even hard. I'm not even fucking around.

I woke up in the middle of it, because I just knew something was in my ass. I woke up, yeah. I woke up, I went, Mateo? I fell back asleep. But they can screen you with this, I forget what it's called. They do that at Waste Well, too.

They send it off to a lab, They take your blood and they screen you for like 100 kinds of cancer. Right, that's the way to go. Yeah, they got the full body skins now, too. They're trying to attach, there was some paper that I was reading that was trying to attach cooking oils with cancer, specific kinds of cooking oils in colon cancer.

Specific types of seed oils that things are cooked in and the prevalence of that and the human diet And how it's contributing to cancer. Yeah, why all in Kansas on the rise? Why is this not available in New York? Why can you only do this kind of stuff? Oh, you could do it in New York I guarantee you just don't know the right people right here and you probably can't do stem cells to the extent It's like there's not a lot of these clinics because of a lot of FDA regulations and the way they were Utah's a really good state for it. They have like much looser regulations.

But a lot of people wind up going to Mexico. There's a place in Mexico that called the CPI, Cellular Performance Institute. A lot of UFC fighters go there because they have an arrangement with the UFC. You could do wild shit down in Mexico. That's what Aaron Rodgers did, right? With his Achilles.

He went down there and got the stem cells. He's good to go. Yep, yep. He actually got treated here. He got treated at Waste Well. Aaron Rodgers did, right, with his Achilles. He went down there, got the stem cells, he's good to go. Yep, yep. He actually got treated here. He got treated at Waste Well. Aaron Rodgers did. Oh wow. So I should just go?

Yeah, you definitely should. If I had known that you had that issue, I would have got you in early this morning. Oh, thank you. Fuck, I'll come back. Yeah, Ron White actually just went and he heard himself doing yoga. He fucked up his ankle. They just treated him. And now he's good. Well, he just got it yesterday

It's gonna take a while for it's better, right? But it will get you better a lot quicker than not having it. That's for sure Then you know I know a lot of people that have had like pretty serious issues cleared up like torn Achilles And they're torn torn ligaments long. It's not fully torn. No, no, then you definitely need surgery You know Achilles is a bad one because it's not fully torn. No, no. Then you definitely need surgery. You know, Achilles is a bad one, because it's like, god, it's like, there's so much torque on that when you're moving,

and then they gotta screw it back down to your bone, and then it's gotta heal, and make sure you strengthen it enough before you start using it, so you have to be real diligent about your rehab. Like, look how long it took Aaron Rodgers, and he has state of the art access to ways to well, and he was way ahead of the curve,

way ahead of what it takes most people to do, and he was way ahead of the curve, way ahead of what it takes most people to do, but even then, he couldn't really play play that year. He had to wait until it was the next season. Those used to be career ending. Yep. And now it's good. I got, yeah, cause I've been doing calf exercises

and strengthening all around, and it's just a year and a half. I'm like, dude, the pain is still there if I explode too much. It's also, what am I gonna do? I got horrific feet, Joe. My feet are horrific. My toes cross over. I have no arches.

I have feet that look like they should be shoved into high heels. And that's what it is. Do you ever work out with barefoot shoes? You know those minimalist, Vito? They have to custom make them for his feet. Yeah, where you put your toe into each individual hole. No, I don't mean that. Yeah. Yeah, you get those too. Those are like the barefoot shoes. Those are... Those help? Yeah, those are okay. Those are good. The toe shoes, I used to have

those, but the ones I really like are they have a wide toe box so your feet spread out and there's very minimal amount of sole just to kind of protect you from sharp things you stand on but it allows your toes to move as individual units. So a regular shoe acts as like a cast. Like if you have like a thick sole boot and like a hard surface your foot sits on it's like a cast. So your toes aren't really working. Your legs are picking it up but your foot is basically atrophying inside that.

And then if you work out barefoot, and especially if you work out and you do something explosive, like jumping and stuff with barefoot, then you're using your feet the way they're supposed to be used for all the muscle strength. A lot of people have very, very weak feet. Yeah, I can't even move my toes individually.

If you like Chris, move your toe, I'll go like this. You can't do this? No, I can't do it. Wow, that's crazy. I mean, yeah, it's like, you know, it's horrible. You should probably take care of that before it gets bad. See? Yeah, it's the only good thing. See, and if God asks me to move my toe.

Say move my toe. Say Chris, move your toe. Somebody say move your toes. You have basketball feet like I do. Yeah. That's all I could do. You see? The bronze feet are like that too. Did you play a lot of basketball?

I did, yeah. Maybe that's it. I did. Maybe it's all that like smushing in the shoe. It could be is that what it is Yeah, definitely like I had to wear extra pairs of socks every like up until that fucking hoof back in no good Right, but then you see on the ankle here. I got a little bony Yeah, that's where it's fucked up, but I do have good hamstring flexibility not bad. That's not bad congratulations on that. Thank you, sir But I do have good hamstring flexibility not bad. That's not bad. Congratulations on that. Thank you, sir The bronze Frieder evil-looking yeah, he hasn't been playing right did he come back to the NBA just missed two games. Oh What happened did we hurt whatever who knows he needed to get time time to get his body. Oh, that's right The meant yeah, yeah, yeah, time out. Who knows? Everybody, anybody who takes out of anything now,

people are like, diddy! That's everyone trying to link it to diddy. It's crazy, dude. Imagine him regretting saying, there's his feet. Oh, jeez, dude. Just smashed up. I mean, that pinky toe is brutes. A lot of kickboxers have feet like that, too.

Feet all fucked up. Brutal. Imagine how many, when you think about kick kickboxes how many elbows they've kicked like John Jones can't even fight unless he has his big toe on His left foot taped to his next toe He has to have it taped up because he tore his toe completely upside down Oh, he was beating up Chael Sonnen Yeah, and he didn't realize it until I was interviewing him after the fight and he looks down sees toes like oh He freaks out and he has to sit down the adrenaline. He didn't feel it didn't feel it until I was interviewing him after the fight and then he looks down and sees his toes. He's like, oh! He freaks out and he has to sit down.

The adrenaline, he didn't even feel it. Didn't even feel it. His toe was upside down. Like the bottom of his toe was facing up. It was horrible. I would probably say one on one him, anyone in history? Just because of how skilled he is? That's what his foot looked like.

Oh, damn! Oh my God! Yeah, bro. Yo! It was crazy. So you noticed it first though? No, I think he did. I think he noticed it. I think foot looked like. Oh, damn. Damn, god. Yeah, bro. Yo. It was crazy. So you noticed it first though? No, I think he did. I think he noticed it.

I think he looked down. Oh, god. Yeah, he destroyed his toe. So what happened, it twisted all the way around? That's from the force of beating the fuck out of Chael Sonnen. That's what that's from. Like, ground and pound when he had him on the ground, just smashing down on him.

Jeez. Somebody isolated the moment his toe curls over. You could see it in like the replay. Yes. The moment his toe curls over. You could see it in the replay. Moment his toe, just the amount of torque he was putting on to try to kill Chels Hunter. Is he doing Peoria or Aspenol? Aspenol. I think it's gonna be Aspenol.

I think they're trying to come to some sort of an agreement. The rumor is that he wants $30 million and the UFC's gonna pay it, hopefully. I hope they pay it. I agree with him. Him and Perrera would be the fight. Perrera, sorry, would be the fight everyone wants to see. Yeah.

Perhaps. Because he's been so dominant that kid. Yeah, perhaps. I mean, if it's gonna happen, they're both 37, it should probably happen soon. But John is the heavyweight champion of the world and Perrera has challengers in the light heavyweight champion of the world and Pereira has challengers in the light heavyweight division, especially Ankolyev. He's supposed to be fighting Ankolyev.

Ankolyev is fucking very dangerous. And he's I think he's the number one contender. And he's been on a winning streak for a long ass time. He's only got one draw. And that was to Jan Blachowicz, who was the former champion. So he's like at the top of the heap, and he's been waiting for a title shot for a long time, but he's been talking a lot of shit, and Alex doesn't like that he talks shit. So he's like, fuck him, make him wait. And so I think Alex just said that he's gonna fight in March

and that he's not gonna fight Onkoliyev, because if he's fighting in March, when is Ramadan? You're asking the wrong guy. I thought you'd be the guy. I thought you'd be the guy. Ramadan. wrong guy I don't know I think it's in the song it's it so he wouldn't be able to fight uncle I wouldn't be able to fight in March because if it's like March 3rd and he's got to go through the entire month of Ramadan preparing for a world title fight what is really 28th and it ends Saturday March 29 see that's exactly during the time period

where he's gonna fight. And with Ramadan for the whole month you can only drink water? No, no, no. You can't, you definitely can drink water and you can eat food but you can only do it after sundown. So Bala Muhammad who's the UFC welterweight champion,

he observes Ramadan and he was training and fighting. You know, he'd have to take a fight during Ramadan, so what he would do is he would get up at like 4.30 in the morning before it was dark out, before it was light out rather, and he'd have a big meal and then he would go to the gym and then he would have no water at the gym, nothing, and then at the end of the day. And also, he also didn't sleep during his day. Like a lot of them, like their hack of that is they just sleep during the day and train

and eat at night, but he said that if you do that, then you miss out on the religious suffering, which he thinks is very important for Ramadan. So he would do it the way you're supposed to do it, where he worked out with no water, trained. Oh my God. And then he would finally get to the nighttime session, he'd be able to eat, and then have a nighttime training session

like a little later than normal. And so that's how he would do his day. That's why these dudes are dominating. They're just tougher. He started working with the Dagestani guys, right? And then they just turned into a beast. Well, those guys are hard fucking core. They want no distractions, no women, no bullshit.

Get off your phone, let's go to work. They're probably not jerking off, if we're being honest. Probably. They keep fueled, they keep it loaded up. Keep it loaded glue gun. Mm-hmm. Right? That's something about having a loaded glue gun, right?

When you're going into the ring, you want to be glued up full of glue. Some people believe that, yeah. Some people believe that you're not supposed to ejaculate within a couple weeks of a big fight. Didn't you not masturbate out ofulate within a couple weeks of a big fight. Didn't you not masturbate out of respect at 9-11? That is truth. What was it? Well, I wanted to go until we found Bin Laden, the perpetrator, but obviously that was too long,

but I did go until October 1st. From 9-11 to October 1, I said, as my respect back to this country, and patriotism, I'm not gonna glue at all until we get out of this month of September. Didn't Louie have a joke about it? He waited until his second tower fell. Probably. Like he jerked off.

That's funny. I think it was a joke. He didn't make it until the second tower fell. Dude, I remember there was like a vigil like on September 18th or whatever like a week later in like my neighborhood and I was playing basketball as a basketball player and I was playing in the park and I remember when I left everyone was just standing outside their house with like American flags and candles and I wouldn't dribble my basketball because I was like I think like a sound or any type of dribble of a ball. Disrespectful.

Disrespectful and then a guy gave me a flag like as I was walking as if to say take one of these as you're walking home and I just walked walked with that flag I love our fucking country big Joe Yeah, I just love it, and I hate when people talk shit about it. Yeah, well get ready. Yeah, yeah We got some gum and we got some drones listen to Joy Reid. Yeah We should try to swap those things out of the air. What do you want? They are if you had a guess I think they are I was joking about the AI thing I think they're Chinese. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I don't want to say this on such a big pocket I I'm available to the CCP for whatever they need me to do. Yeah, this information. I'll do it

I think that they are sniffing the radiation I think that that's the most plausible that I don't know if they know about it if not But I think they're probably looking for radiation I don't know that a nukes necessarily going off But I think that's probably what it is if I had to just guess, if I really had to guess. I think they're being launched from submarines underwater. Yes.

Well, that's what's crazy is like if that's the case, how many submarines and how big are these submarines? Because these things are the size of an SUV and some of them were coming from some like untrackable distance offshore, 50 plus miles offshore, and they're as of an SUV, and they can stay in the air for five hours. So what's the power source? And then the other problem is they don't exhibit

a heat signature like a regular drone does. So do they have some sort of cooling? Is that why they can't track them? Yeah, they're having a hard time tracking them because of that. They're having a hard time tracking them with infrared. They don't know why they can stay in the sky for they're having a hard time tracking them because of that like they're having a hard time tracking them with infrared. They don't know why they can stay in the sky for five hours at a time. Ryan Graves who's a fighter

pilot was on the other day and he was explaining to us like there's certain aspects to some of these drones that are above state-of-the-art. They're doing things that we can't do. The big one is the flying for that many hours. That's that's crazy. The heat signature part, that's crazy. All the jammers and all different things they try to do to find the signal it's on, none of that works. What does he think it is then? Well, why don't they just knock one out of the air?

That's what I don't understand. That's a good question. That's what makes me skeptical to think that- Does he think it's government? Could be American. Right? I sent you something earlier today, Jamie, that I knew the subject was going to come up about it. I don't know. There's also some stuff to come up about it I don't know

there's also some stuff like is it real I don't know if it's real I don't know what we're looking at but some stuff with like these orbs that they're filming oh yeah and they've zoomed in on them and you look at the zoomed in version of you like what the fuck is that like what is that guy yeah thing we don't just don't know if it's real or not FAA bans drones in parts of New Jersey threatens deadly force for imminent security threat these areas have all now been deemed National Defense Airspace. Aviation Administration issued bans on flying

drones in multiple cities across New Jersey including several in our area due to security reasons these areas are all now considered national defense air space. Here's a map of those sites. The city of Camden, Gloucester City, Winslow Township, Eve Shim, Hancock's Bridge in lower Aloe's Township in Salem County, West Hampton, Burlington and Hamilton. Unmanned aircraft are not allowed in those areas through January 17th unless approved by the federal government. The FAA says pilots who violate the airspace, meaning pilots on the ground as well, may be detained and interviewed by law enforcement. The agency warns that the U.S. government may use deadly force against drones it deems

an imminent threat. These restrictions come just days after the FBI released a joint government statement saying, most of the reported drone sightings were just airplanes, manned drones and stars in the sky. Shut the fuck up. They're trying to get answers out. Listen, Donald Trump is not giving press conferences about airplanes and stars in the sky. Right. Do you don't think that he knows something more than that?

I was going to ask, do you think he knows? He's not staying in his golf course. He wouldn't go to his golf course because they were hovering over the golf course. There's a real problem. This gaslighting is not helping anybody. Do you think it just goes out of the news one day or we will get an answer as the public? I don't know. I would never have guessed that it would be

this big of a deal for so long. How long has it been going on? Since early November, mid-November, I think. Yeah, around Thanksgiving. And it's been the same, hasn't it been like the same type of year, same time of year, like for a couple of years, that this has been happening?

But not like this, it's never gotten to national news. Not this many, but they were going over military bases, and so that was the concern. And now they're just going over New Jersey. Jamie, pull the video up of the one that I got on my Instagram. So I took this one from, I forget what the Instagram page is, but it's up on the page to give them a shout out.

I don't know what this is, I don't know if this is fake. This is the one we were looking at earlier. I showed it to these guys in the green room last night. We were all freaking out like, okay, what is that? The way the goddamn thing moves. My favorite meme of yours. So click on it so we can hear it. That's the best way. That meme gets used for so many different things. so click on it so we can hear it that meme gets used for so many different things listen to these guys talking when they're talking

so you see this thing so what you're concentrating on is the one on the lower right what the fuck? like literally dude that's weird in the sky right there. So it's moving. Are we watching a shoot? Shut up, shut up. A star falling?

No, that's not moving quick enough. There's no tail. That's a UFO. There's no blue or red lights. Look, something's coming off. What the fuck? So when it gets above, this is where it gets weird, because it's slowly rising. It gets above that other thing which might be the moon, I'm not sure what that other thing is. I think it's the moon. So that other thing, it gets above it, and then...

It starts taking off, and when it starts taking off, it does it with no sound, at a fucking insane rate of speed. Like, look at that. at a fucking insane rate of speed like look at that no fucking way what the fuck it just went out to space it just went out to space oh my god it just went out to space that's why those guys are reacting like they're watching it yeah yeah I don't know if that's real it could be fake it could be all AI generated it's it's ambiguous and blurry enough though that I'm willing to entertain it right if that's really what they saw that's a bunch of different

people have seen things like that over time and this is like the tic-tac story this is the one that Ryan Graves showed us that this lady photographed over Florida that these things and they've seen it on this is one that was this was seen by multiple people from different planes that this thing moved and then shot off into space, and this lady got photos of it. But whatever that thing's doing, it's doing something that we can't do.

That speed that that thing takes off, that's faster than any rocket we have, that's faster than any fighter jet. That thing just shoots off into space at some impossible speed. So it's either us, the drones either, well, why are they blinking if it's not us? Why do they have-

That one wasn't blinking. No, but I mean the drones. I'm saying the drones are blinking. So I'm saying if the drones are ours, maybe there's been like UFO activity and they're throwing these drones up to try to capture it with a better- Or what better way to distract people from actual UFOs

that you know are gonna be all over the sky than to put a bunch of drones up there too. Right, that too. Yeah, if you have a bunch of shit that seems like stuff that you've seen, like a drone, like flying around, and then there's stuff that is impossible with it, that's a good way to cover up the impossible stuff. Have a bunch of regular drones.

Yeah, but at this point, why would they do that? Everyone's already accepted the fact that UFOs are out there. Not really. If there was a big thing where all of a sudden the sky was filled with football field size, fucking motherships, people would lose their shit. But if you could slowly get people accustomed to it,

the way people got accustomed to masks In the beginning in that 19 in 2019 if you saw someone with a mask on but what the fuck is going on by? 2021 why doesn't this guy have a mask on right just in a couple of years everybody was wearing a mask If we get accustomed to stuff if you get accustomed to things being in the sky, and then all of a sudden there's nothing custom to stuff if you get a custom of things being in the sky and then all sudden there's nothing like you could float anything in the sky if you have weirder and weirder drones and then start showing spaceships people would freak out way less right I don't know dude if someone tells me this is drone I'm chill and if someone shows me a football field-sized spacecraft I'm gonna

freak out that's a big leap. In a good way. But what about one the size of a car that's definitely not ours? So you think they're just doling them out by size? If I was going to do that, if I was going to get people prepared for an imminent invasion, like if I knew that there was UFOs on the way, if we're working at the James Webb Telescope and we get a photo of a mothership and it's heading towards us, it's gonna be here in four months. What would you do?

Well, if I knew that they were going to be sending drones and probes into our atmosphere and maybe they've already done that, to obscure that I would put a bunch of our drones up there and have them hover over cities so it doesn't freak people out because you know that that's coming. I mean, being freaked out is probably the least

of our problems when they come. Well, collapse of civil society is really possible if aliens show up. Like if they just instantaneously showed up, things could completely collapse if we knew that our leaders are just nothing compared to these new things that are visiting us from some other place and doing things that are impossible with our technology. We're helpless. We're lost. We're confused.

They could shut down nuclear power plants. They can shut down the grid. They can shut down any weapon systems that we have. Instantaneously, power goes off. If all those stories are true, the best way to keep people from absolutely freaking out is to slowly trickle it in on them and get them more and more accustomed to this. Like as a Psy-op.

How committed are you to this theory? Not very. Not very. I go all over the place. I think according to someone that I spoke to, and this is someone who has high level clearance and someone who worked for the government in this capacity.

He said some of these are not, they're not human. They're not exhibiting whatever they are, they're exhibiting technology that is far beyond what we're capable of. And then there's other ones like Ryan Graves said that are beyond state of the art, but you can kind of sort of get that they would be a drone, but how is it in the air for five hours? How does it not have a heat signature? How does it know when other drones are coming near it, when they're flying jets near it,

and they just shut the lights off and disappear? These things are just shutting off and taking off. Oh, dude, so this isn't, they're alien. Maybe they're alien drones, and it's possible. Fuck, and if you were in drones. Also, if you were an alien and you wanted to get people accustomed to this without freaking out, wouldn't you start sending drones that are similar

to what we have, but just many levels better? But similar enough, so you go, oh, I know what that is. Or they could just like get on the TV and get like, hey dudes, we're chill. But they probably, if they could get here, they'd know how to speak our language. And they just go, hey dudes, we're chill. They can morph. to speak our language, and they just go, hey dudes, we're chill. They can morph.

We're coming here, or they just go, hey guys, it's over. We're gonna use, we're gonna, like, you guys seen The Matrix? We're about to use you for some sort of fuel. Whatever they're gonna do. Or maybe they're not gonna be mean to us at all. That's possible too. If they're that intelligent, they're not mean.

They're not mean. People who have- You mean like us? Yeah. Yeah, we're not- That's hilarious. Or maybe the prison planet thing I said in the beginning of the show, this is how it happens. They're not mean. They're not mean. People who- You mean like us? Yeah. Yeah, we're not- That's hilarious. Or maybe the prison planet thing I said in the beginning of the show, this is how it happens.

Well, you ever heard Bob Lazar talk about one of the most disturbing things that he found? Why? No. One of the most disturbing things when he was doing the back engineering program on this supposed crashed alien spaceship or recovered alien spaceship was that they had a thick binder that was about religion.

And the thing, we'll have him play it. We'll have him play it. spaceship was that they had a thick binder that was about religion and the thing we'll have him play it. We'll have him play it because it's one of those ones we've played a few times but it's the Bob Lazar story is the craziest. Because if he's telling the truth and it seems like he's definitely telling the truth about a lot he definitely worked at Los Alamos Labs he was on the employee roster he has a detailed understanding of the building he knew all the security people when they took him there, when George Knapp took him on a tour through there.

He definitely worked there, and he definitely was a propulsions expert. And he says they hired him to go and try to figure out this fucking thing. Here, listen to this. The hardcore thing is that there is an extremely classified document dealing with religion, and it's about that thick, period. But why would there be any classified material dealing with religion? I want to go back to the beginning of the story. I want to go back to the beginning of the story.

I want to go back to the beginning of the story. I want to go back to the beginning of the story. I want to go back to the beginning of the story. I want to go back to the beginning of the story. I want to go back to the beginning of the story. dealing with religion and it's about that period. But why would there be any classified material dealing with religion? I want to go back to the religion thing. I want you to say it. It's just, it's so far out. Alright, your objection has been noted. What does it say? That we're containers. That's how supposedly the alien flick has. That we are nothing but containers. Containers of? Containers. Maybe containers of souls. You can come up with whatever theory you want.

That we're containers. And that's how we're mentioned in the documents. That religion was specifically created so we have some rules and regulations for the sole purpose of not damaging the container. That's George, that's George Knapp by the way, shout out to George Knapp. Yeah, I mean, too freaked out. But it's, but it's, but it's kinda what you were talking about.

The prison planet theory doesn't seem so crazy if the advanced alien race is eating our negative emotions, just don't be negative and you'll be saved, dude. Just be happy, that's what they've been trying to tell you. Bob Marley, everybody's been trying to tell you this. What is this, Jamie, what'd he show me here? I believe that video you posted is from April. April 12th, 2024, at Mountain Standard Time

in eastern Arizona, off the Black River in the White Mountains, the Fort Apache Indian Reservation. And oh, by the way, my friend, Cam Haynes, he hunts at one of the Apache reservations He says they see them there all the time He said they see crazy shit in the sky all the time these guys are hunting out there in you know This enormous reservation like like unbelievable pristine Forest land he said they see crazy shit, and they just accept it that it's true, right?

I believe that most of the guys working there have seen something. Yeah. Yeah, I mean that Where Travis Walton this guy that was in Arizona to wasn't it Jamie you guys this version of the video you can almost make out The moon I don't know how this is better because it's been reposted less, but it does look better. It definitely looks better So they're using thing. Are you freaked out by this 100%? Yeah Yeah, but not enough that it's gonna fuck up my day Right cuz it freaks me out, but it's not freaking me out like I can't sleep right It's freaking me out like like Ukraine freaks me out where I can't sleep Yeah, you know like that stuff freaks me out the looking for a nuke and the East Coast that freaks me out

We're all fuck with my sleep if I think about that before I go to bed the one thing that I Genuinely here to here takes off. Let's take a look at it while it's taken off Wow And this is the thing it's like there's no sound Look at look how fast it's going. Yeah, like what could go that fast what the fuck can go that fast Go that fast what the fuck can go that fast Crazy that is insane that has to be I don't want to guess how many thousands of miles an hour that thing is going But if you were a person inside your G lo You're going that fast Paul Versey's dad and mom Sought and it was not only the dad mom. It was like an aunt. They were all there and I asked his mom,

she's like a religious person and she said, yeah. And they said it was low, had lights on it, the father, and the father is, you know, a Bronx Italian guy. And he said he doesn't believe in that stuff. And it was low, like above the tree line, he made it out. It was a saucer and then he said it shot up and turned into a dot in the sky. And this was in the 80s or something.

Do you guys ever hear the Betty and Barney Hill story? No. Betty and Barney Hill were a couple in, I think it was the 1950s. Oh yes, I know this story. They were the first abduction story, and they did hypnotic regression, and they both had the same story that they were taking.

They saw something in the sky, they pulled over their car, and then they woke up, and they don't know what the fuck happened. But they were haunted by this, and they have hypnotic regression, and they tell this crazy story about being taken aboard this craft. It's very similar to Travis Walton's story. It's very similar to a bunch of stories of abduction. And what is this, like they get tested on, or they just don't remember anything?

Yeah, you know, it's hard to say when you're dealing with hypnotic reduct, because the thing about these, when you're recalling things through hypnosis is like people are very susceptible to someone imparting a memory into them. So you'd have to know like what was the process like in which you interviewed these people. But John Mack, who is a psychologist from Harvard, wrote a book called Abduction that I read in the 1990s that detailed all the different people that he worked on, that he was having these hypnotic regression sessions with these people, and they were all telling these similar stories about being abducted, and that he believed that there was a few people on earth where they would

revisit, they would find, just like we do with animals where we put collars on them, right? They catch like a mountain lion, they'll put a collar on that mountain lion so they can understand where the mountain lion's going, where his terrain is, how they do it with wolves when they relocate them, they put collars on them so they know where they are all the time. And it makes sense that they would probably want to understand us, so they would pick certain ones, and if they had a way to silence your memories and completely put you in some sort of a state

where they could manipulate you and take you to some place and do examinations on you and then put you back with no memory of it other than these weird nightmares, that makes sense. Well, it shows that they're compassionate if they put you back. I guess, or that this is how they study you. They wanna know. I mean, there's no stories of them stealing people. They always bring you back.

But if that's real, what's the purpose of it? What are they doing? I would imagine they're studying us the same. If we could study chimps, and the chimps had no idea We studied them like we would do that instead. We dart them we darted and then they wake up with a fuck You know, but that's that's how we do it and they would probably do it in a real similar way just more sophisticated How about that other adduction story about the those guys they were like those rural guys in the 70s or something Travis Walton Yeah, that was the Arizona story the lager. Yeah those guys

I believe him that story is crazy because the other guys in the truck one of the guys hated him He got in a fistfight with that guy the day of the abduction He still told the same story that everybody told he walked up to this craft They saw it flying through the air wasn't that in Arizona, too Was that Travis Walton case in Arizona? Yeah, I believe it was Arizona is a hot spot for it I mean, that's the Phoenix lights, you know, that's my Phoenix lights was crazy Crazy and a lot of people saw that thousands of people saw including the fucking governor. Yeah Yeah, so then why is this one catching on in the news?

This is more it's this is more prevalent and it's lasting for days and days and days got it and I don't know I don't know what's going on. Do you think they just wanna be there for the inauguration? Ah! Probably. Well, they're really early. They're like fucking tailgating. Yeah, they're tailgating.

We're gonna be there. Tailgating the inauguration. We're gonna be there. We're gonna be there. We're gonna be close. July, I'm sorry. January 18th, we're doing a show in Washington, DC at the Lincoln Theater, our Histoania's live show,

and we're like- Bring a Geiger counter. Well, we said we were like, why 22 days before the inauguration? We were like, what the fuck are we doing? Yeah, we're doing a live, the first live history- January 18th. January 18th, Washington, D.C. Good time.

In D.C. it'll be fine. It's a good time to do it. I mean, but we were like, fuck it. Probably. Oh, who knows? We're doing a- Better than January 21st. That one I wouldn't count on being there.

We're doing it at five o'clock in the afternoon. I like doing earlier shows now. You ever do that? You ever do like a 5 PM? No. We think that's where the world's going with like, we don't think people want to be out till midnight 1 AM anymore. What do you think?

You think that's stupid? You think earlier shows work? Would you experiment with them? Yeah, I mean, sure. I mean, Bert Kreischer has always done afternoon shows, like Take the Day Off Work Show. He's done a bunch of those. Oh, really?

Yeah, Bert's been doing those for years. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, I mean, Doug Stanhope does those day drinking shows. He actually filmed one at the mothership. Oh, I didn't know that. Did some day drinking shows. Yeah, I mean, why not? I mean, the club is there all day long.

Why not have shows during the day if you want to? If you want, if you can sell them. Especially it's dark out. If it's the club's dark as shit. It's dark when it's noon. Yeah. know it's like you could totally have the same experience at noon that you could at night But it seems like at nighttime people are off work you get a couple of cocktails Get a little loose sit in the dark have a good time But on a Saturday sometimes I feel like people just sit around all day and wait for the show if you can put it at five

O'clock why look that's why they like to go to football games, right? During the afternoon? Yeah. I mean, you certainly could. You certainly could have day shows. Especially if you have a big name. Someone, they're willing to do something. Most of the people like to go out at night.

Like to go to dinner, get a couple drinks, go to a show. That's a nighttime thing. But that's just, they're just accustomed to it. Especially if it's Saturday or Sunday. You totally could get away I'm just a morning, baby I like to wake up early and then I like time you get up I'm a 6 a.m. Little baby boy that well before you look at your phone

What what I used to boy look at it right away, but now I give myself 15 minutes 15 solid I get 15 minutes and I get my feet on the floor and I just try to piss well, I You don't piss without your phone. Stop lying Let me think about you get up in the middle night to piss do you grab your phone that I don't do because your phone, stop lying. Let me think about that. If you get up in the middle of the night to piss, do you grab your phone? That I don't do because I'm in a slumber, so I'm kind of just, it's kind of like, I'm in a slumber state of piss.

But you're right, when I do get up, when I do get, actually I never really have to piss in the morning when I wake up because I do piss in the middle of the night. But that is a good point. I typically, if I have to piss, I do take my phone, that's a good point. But mostly, if I don't have to piss, I will go 15 minutes, I try to do it. And I just try to breathe and get friendly with the present. Get friendly with the present. You gotta do it, baby.

Do you do any meditation or mindfulness stuff? Sure, yeah. So good. Every day? Well, I do a lot of different things that also act like that, like my time in the sauna. I think that's very meditative, Especially when I'm just concentrating on breathing and getting through the last 10, 15 minutes. Cold plunge, I think that's a very meditative state too

because you have to be in control of your emotions and your anxiety because you want to get the fuck out of there and you have to just stare at the clock and make sure you do your time. But also other things that I do, yeah. What do you stay, how long in the cold plunge? Three minutes. Three minutes, not bad. other things that I do. Yeah. What do you stay? How long in the cold plunge? Three minutes.

Three minutes, not bad. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I can, I'm never trying, I can't even do a cold shower. Dude, I can't believe we're doing maybe the last podcast on earth after an alien invasion is coming. I don't think these aliens are going to stop podcasting. I think they like podcasts. They like it, right?

Yeah, it's fun. They're going to love yours for sure. You're an advocate for them. They want to know what we're doing. Yeah, so I'm on their side. Yeah come come visit me. Yeah, I'm shocked They have visit me yet. I'm upset. Yeah, yeah, come you wouldn't be freaked out, right? Oh, definitely be freaked out Yeah, I mean, how do you not be freaked out when you're confronted with the thing that everybody's wondered forever? Are we alone? Yeah, and if you know, you're definitely not alone

No matter who you are and what you say I don't care if you're the baddest motherfucker on the planet, you run into an alien, you're gonna freak out. But why is that not comforting? I'm a kid who doesn't like loneliness and it'd be nice to know that there's other things out there. What if they're completely indifferent to us? What if they've completely eliminated emotion

and they're cold and calculated like a computer? We have those here. Yeah, but they're not telling you what you can and can't do with your life, they're not telling you what you can and can't do with your life. They're not shutting down your power grid. They're not like coming over to rule over humanity. That's the worry.

I mean, what's the worst they can do? The worry is that they rule over us the way we rule over countries. But maybe they do a better job. Maybe. Yeah, I mean, what's the worst they could do really? Look at you. Yeah, what's the worst they can do?

What does Chad GPT say about the Natives? We asked Chad GPT the other day. What does chat GPT say about aliens? We asked chat GPT the other day if the Tic Tac was a UFO. We kept beating it down, asking it more and more questions. It's exhibiting something. What are the possibilities? If it is extraterrestrial, where would it come from? It gave us a list of star systems that are close by.

Wow. Yeah, you keep pestering chat GPT. I asked it to make an artistic rendition of what it thought it would look like. What the TikTok looked like? At first it made it huge, and I was like, that's a little too big, isn't it? Maybe, but not big as those mothership ones.

I don't know what it is, but it's fun. I like all this chaos. I think it's fun. I enjoy it when things get real sideways for some strange reason. They were also probably been coming forever just now everyone's got phones and now they're just capturing them.

I think it's in the Bible. I think the Ezekiel story in the Bible is an alien visitation. Yeah. So what is that? They're saying they talk about these lights similar? Talks about a wheel within a wheel. Like the way Ezekiel describes this vision that he sees,

like something that had like multiple different animal heads on it and different, like it describes it as a wheel within a wheel the Ways describing like you would imagine like if you saw something the beyond your fucking wildest imagination And then you tried you know years later to write this down or not even write it down, right? Because it was told as an oral tradition for a long time before it was ever written Who knows what the actual event was that he described, but there's a lot of ancient religious texts, including the Vimanas from the Bhagavad Gita, all these different stories of things flying in the

air that exhibit extraordinary flight characteristics that move the way we describe UFOs. So that's a good point then, just because we have the capability to film this and know about it now, doesn't mean that they're going to expose themselves because they've been doing this for thousands of years. Yeah, they've been doing this for everything. If you read Jacques Vallee's books on it, Jacques Vallee is the guy, he's a scientist that they, he was the reason why they had that French guy in Close Encounters, the third count.

You ever see that? Close Encounters, Steven Spielberg? Long time ago. Great fucking movie. But there was this French scientist they bring in to try to help people get through this. It's based on Jacques Vallee. And he was a podcast guest, very cagey.

Didn't answer a lot of questions. Probed him a lot. But his books are fascinating. And one of the things about his books, I've read the first one, I'm into the second one right now. In the first one, he goes into detail about, through the 1700s, 1800s, all these different sightings,

all these different experiences that people documented in news stories and different, and they're all super similar, man. Or similar enough that different versions of it, you could kind of attribute it to different people lacking the words to adequately explain some super paranormal bizarre experience but real similar I think they've probably always been here if they're real if we are visited by something that's either interdimensional or from another

planet they've probably been doing this for a long fucking time monitoring us the same way We monitor animals on this planet, and they'll never maybe never say who they really are well Maybe they're getting ready to because we're about to unleash these fucking quantum computers and AI And maybe that is the thing that they're here to make sure goes smoothly right if you had to imagine one thing that would completely change the capability of this race of savage, barbarian, territorial apes with thermonuclear weapons, which is what we are,

you would like, right when they're about to achieve godlike powers, like let's like hover. Wow, that makes sense. It really does make sense when you put it into that context, which is actually reality, that we are on the precipice of something that is so unimaginable. Bigger than the split of the aisle. Yeah, I mean.

Bigger than anything. Like, literally something. You're blowing my mind right now. Yeah, I mean, when you think so. Your anxiety's gonna go up. Yeah, I mean, well no, my anxiety's about stupid stuff, which is weird. Yeah. So, yeah, this stuff just doesn't don't know. My anxiety's about stupid stuff, which is weird.

Yeah, this stuff just doesn't bother me, but I get bothered by stupid stuff. What is wrong with me? Because this stuff is not genuinely affecting you right now. If it was, if it was inescapable, if it was like hovering over this building right now, we wouldn't be able to have a podcast.

We'd all be outside. We'd be going, what the fuck, man? There's some silent thing that's three miles long that's blocking out the sky and it's hovering 300 yards above us, we would all be freaking the fuck out. Right, so my question is, Elon Musk probably has like what, IQ of like 140 or something? Probably, at least.

So what is chat GBT's like IQ? Like considered now well once chat GPT once they achieve and they think they're gonna be able to do this in 2025 when it achieves artificial general intelligence I think what it will be as as smart as every human being that's on earth combined Hmm, and if that's right. See if that's correct. What does that mean, artificial general intelligence? The thing is, this is like whatever it is, it's baby steps.

So whatever that is, this insane leap from us to that is baby steps in comparison to what it's going to be. It's not going to stop there. If you have sentient artificial intelligence and unlimited computing power connected to nuclear power plants like they're gonna do and Then it develops a better version of itself and better versions of power and better versions of its programming and all the other things that go along with it and its capabilities and if Chat GPT is trying to lie and copy itself

What is that thing gonna do? And they also don't know how it works, right? Like I watched that 60 minutes interview with that sort of godfather of AI or whatever they consider him, like the guy who first created the biggest component of it. And he says, we don't, the layers thing. And then he was like, they don't know how it works.

They don't know how it learned. They don't know how it works. They don't know. That blows my mind. It should. Yeah. It should. And that's why the aliens are hovering. So is Elon concerned?

Is Elon really concerned about AI? I don't know, he keeps it under his hat. I think he's got contracts with NASA, and he's the Defense Department, and he's running SpaceX. I don't think he can talk wild about aliens when you've got that kind of, it's like a lot on the line. That's what we were saying in the gym the other day. Because he doesn't believe in them.

I saw him on your show. They're like, I'm not sure if they're real. They're real, they're very subtle. I don't know. Yeah, because people were like, oh, how come he's not commenting on the drones? He comments on everything. It's true.

And so like, what does that tell you? That tells me something's going on. That's what I would be commenting on. If I had nothing to do with it and I was a super genius who comments on everything, I would for sure comment on all these fucking drones. Well, there's a lot of them. My wife saw one, she videoed it. It was a super genius who comments on everything I would for sure comment on all these fucking drones Well, there's a lot of them my wife saw one she videoed it. It was a drone There's a lot of them, but it could have been a man mate It could have been like somebody's grown up in their kid because a lot of people are probably putting them up in the sky

Yeah, they're all flying around Austin. I see them and they're normal drones. I see right. I seen them the other night Yeah, yeah boys. Let's wrap this up All right, baby. History Hyenas is back. History Hyenas. We're very happy. Thank you. Very happy. Thank you. And we're demonetized on YouTube,

so we're trying to get re-monetized. What happened, what'd you say? We didn't do it. Dude, who knows? It's again, I don't know, why does this happen to me? I remember the last time. Sensorship. Yeah, and the last time they did it to my channel, and then you spoke about it, and then they re-monetized.

They suspended me last time. We don't know because we was before we even started The problem is if you get a bunch of haters who flag your videos and complain about them I think sometimes that can do it. Yeah, it says harmful content We don't put an episode just cocksuckers who like just mass report you or they don't like you I mean, there's there's a lot of ways to weaponize that whole reporting system. We're trying but that's fun. And then you gotta realize like YouTube is managing

some fucking insane number of videos that are getting uploaded every minute. Right. And they probably have to have all these systems in place to handle this stuff. And I bet you can game that system. And then there's also a bunch of people that work for them that are woke dipshits.

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