The Joe Rogan Experience - #2257 - Bryan Callen

Episode Date: January 15, 2025

Bryan Callen is an actor, comedian, and podcaster. He's the co-host of the podcasts "The Fighter and the Kid" and "Conspiracy Social Club," and host of "The Bryan Callen Show." www.bryancallen.com This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Get working on a better you with therapy. Visit BetterHelp.com/JRE today to get 10% off your first month. Don’t miss out on all the action this week at DraftKings! Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up using dkng.co/rogan or through my promo code ROGAN. GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, [phone] or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT) or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD).21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min. $5 bet. Max. $200 issued as non-withdrawable Bonus Bets that expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: dkng.co/dk-offer-terms. Ends 2/9/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Joe Rogan Experience. Showing by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. My wife, I smoked on these and I didn't brush my teeth. I woke up the next morning and my wife said, your breath is four dimensional. He didn't brush your teeth before you went to bed and he smoked a cigar. Of course I didn't brush my teeth before I went to bed. Give a fuck cigar. Of course I didn't brush my teeth before I went to bed. Give a fuck. You know what I mean?

You're married, you're married. She was like, I love you so much. Your breath is four dimensional. You know, these fires, I have two small children now. Because what I want to do is, what you want to do is you want to get divorced and then you want to have, get married again to a woman who's 23 years younger and then have two more kids because that's good. And then I... takes a lot of financial stress. Oh, there's no financial stress at all. It's great You know if I hustle so I'm 80. I'll be fine anyway

It's gonna be really awkward when I call you at 75. I just need help this month But anyway, so I fucking I look at her and I go she's like a girl from Jersey like Irish Italian chick and no nonsense you know been working since she was 16 and I go you know that we had an evacuation order that they sent out by accident to people even down where I'm at yeah what was that it was some guy who fucked up because I don't know if you know this is gonna be this is gonna be shocking grab the table LA's not run very well. I know See here's the thing we have to worry about I know it isn't the chief of fire department a lesbian

Listen here's the bottom it's not about infrastructure infrastructure I won't sit here while you disparage the great people that are running Los Angeles. Sir, infrastructure's got to take a backseat to climate change and social justice and homeless abatement which hasn't worked. See the lady who's responsible for filling the fire hydrants gets paid $750,000 a year. Hey, your tax dollars going to good work there everybody. That's a lot of money. You think? That's sitcom money.

You think? I said my... That's like I'm the star of a sitcom. Oh dude. It's star. But like you're the third person a sitcom. Oh dude. It's star but like you're the third person That's that's a high wage sir. 750 cramps. Okay for a city employer. So just like fill that one. Oh How the others how the aquifers say get the water in that one, you know what we got to protect the Delta smelt Yeah, which whatever the fuck that is so we got it We got a Trump was talking about that on the podcast on the podcast

I did with them Trump was going on this long rampage about Los Angeles and the fires and how it all can be prevented and they could have plenty of water He explained the whole thing and he's right. Here's my whole philosophy You guys know you know that we have a tinderbox Then you can say that there are a lot of people that live there, the fires are, it's always a potential. If that's the case, then please make sure the fire hydrants, we've got to be able to figure that out.

You guys in LA, California came up with AI. I mean, the Silicon Valley, it was pretty innovative people. Let's figure out a way to keep the fucking- Very different people. They are very different people, sir. That's like saying people in America are homeless and also Elon Musk. Right. You know what I'm saying? Well, get some people down in government who are innovative like that. What the fuck are

we doing? They don't want to do that job. Do you know the City Council of Los Angeles? Four of the members of the City Council are far left social democrats. How about that? There's zero, there's zero pushback on ideas. It's just all. Yeah, it's all an echo chamber. Well, I'm hoping now that this is a giant wake up call for these people. I mean, there's no positivity that's going to come out of a horrific fire like that. But at least it'll wake because look that area, you know, Adam Corolla was

on someone's show talking about this and he said something that's like very, I think he was actually doing it himself. Yeah, about permits. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he was just saying that there's 80% of the people that live there are far left. 80% of the people that got their houses burned down from complete total incompetence and lack of management. Total incompetence. 80% of those people are far left people and that's a giant wake up call when you realize like no this these fucking people this is not the way to do it. Did you see that lady the the fire lady who's a part of this whole diversity thing and they said you're a woman firefighter can you if can you carry my husband out of a burning building she was like well if your husband's in a burning building He already made a mistake So she said she's a big ol sassy fat black. Yeah, my favorite was that one of the women said you want people to rep to look

Like you say and I'm like hey lady when when my house is on fire, and I'm trying to get my kids out I'm not gonna be like hey I got I can I get some people that look like me because this this doesn't make me I like Brian Shaw No, they look like a white walker and then get me out of that fucking fire I'm in I'm a giant dude who can carry people with a mustache that goes like yeah, right and handlebar I'm so gay that when I saw they came, I saw some firemen and I didn't know what to do.

I was, I wanted to say something like, go get them guys or something like that. And I, and I literally went like this. I went, I saluted them. I went, that's good. It's a little embarrassing. It's an acknowledgement. Yeah. But my wife, my wife is so funny cause my wife is very handy.

And I said, and we had an evacuation where I looked at her and I go, I got to go do Joe's podcast and then shoot my special at the mothership. But I feel guilty about leaving you here. And she goes, what are you going to do? You can't change a tire. I got this. All right. See you later. So yeah, I don't know. I would have felt weird about leaving them too. Well, I'm in an area where I'm good. Yeah, you're good for now. This is the thing about LA that, you know, there's a viral clip that's going around now of a conversation that I had with Sam Morel a while back. And we were talking about when I was on Fear Factor, how this fireman told me that this was going to happen one day.

He said, it's just a matter of time. With the right wind, he's like, we won't be able to stop it. Now that's gone viral. And then the Trump thing went viral too, because Trump was saying that they need to do something to change this. They need to clean up the forest, get rid of all the dead wood. All these things could be done. Get rid of all the brush, get rid of all the dead wood Yeah, all these things could be done get rid of all the brush get rid of all the dead wood Open up that fucking water from the north to come down this idea that do you know?

That the whole center of California used to be a lake No giant Lake. No, bro. I found out about it about a year ago. Really? It's crazy young Jamie wait, do you see how big this fucking lake was. And all of it, all of it is all meddling and fucking around by humans. Did I ever tell you the conversation I had with Arnold Schwarzenegger? I was with John Leggo's album. Did he say screw your freedom? No, he didn't say. Screw your freedom.

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So I'm with John because I'm we were doing that movie ride along and John goes hey stick around I'm gonna have we'll have some dinner with a friend of mine's coming by I didn't know it was Arnold shows up with his assistants kind of cool, and I'm a fan So we're sitting there and I just read a book on California politics by Michael Lewis called boomerang about sort of like how a lot of the towns like Stockton went broke because of the pension plans and all that shit. Blah blah blah. I thought his own Diaz brothers running around slapping people. It is that dude. It is that dude. It's that too. Check this out.

Look at the size of this lake. Tulare Lake. What? Largest freshwater lake west of the Mississippi. Largest freshwater lake west of the Mississippi. What? It used to be fucking huge. Show a photo of what it used to look like. So, it was all agriculture. They fucked it up. Oh, because

they drained it, right? Look at the size of it. What the fuck? Look how big it was. Look how fucking big that is. And now it's just gone. Gone. Apparently it's refilling. Well, I guess we needed it for to grow all the oranges. Shut the fuck up. I mean, you know, it became for the Owens Valley. We needed needed for almonds for the oh, yeah I'm a milk is there's one amazing Photograph of this guy who was squirting almond milk on the fire outside of his house because that's all he had. Is that true? He had two quarts of almond milk. It's like this soy man. This is literal human water balloon Oh, look at that. God bless him.

God bless him. Dude, that's when you're really trying. That's when you're trying. When it's COVID mask on. That's just a last stand, bro. That's a last stand. That's... No, you should've been out.

You gotta get out of there. You gotta accept it. I've been evacuated three times. Have you really? Yeah, when I lived in Belkania. I got evacuated three times. You know, it burnt two houses in front in 2018, two houses in front of my old house,

or burnt to the ground. Well, that video I showed you of my friend's house that just disappeared. And then you remember I said that video of him driving down the PCH, those guys are coming to my house. Because where I'm at is the only place that's where the air's breathable and all that.

Well, we have a barrier between the 405 and also the airport. So it's really, we're pretty that. Well, we have a barrier between the 405 and also the airport, so it's really, we're pretty safe. Yeah, pretty safe. The thing about, I mean, this is from someone who's been through it a few times. You don't understand. You think it's just a fire. It's not. It's a storm. So I saw fire tornadoes. You did? Yeah, I saw fire tornadoes. When we filming we're filming on fear factor and ironically

This was the same time where this fireman was explaining to me what's gonna happen in LA We're filming fear factor and when we were driving back the entire right I watched the guy die Watch what run across the highway and get hit by a car. What the fuck? Yeah, I didn't see him get hit by a car But I saw him He was then my Producer the producer the show apparently saw more he saw like graphic People were panicking There was ash falling in the sky like it was snowing it was crazy and everyone's driving and no one

Everyone's got this like somber like 50 mile an hour Driving the entire right side of the highway for an hour like what we were and you can feel that heat, right? Yeah, we were filming off the five. So we were like way up by you know, like as your head see me They're field. Oh, yeah Bakers feel like that is off the five or the ten whatever the fuck it is Bakersfield like that is I don't have to five or the ten whatever the fuck it is When we were we were pretty far away And it was a whole hour driving back where the whole right side of the highway was in flames It got me completely engulfed like a Lord of the Rings movie We're waiting for Sauron to come riding on an evil horse over the top of it. It was nuts

It was fucking nuts and And you would see fire tornadoes, man. The fire was fucking insane. There's nothing you can do. And it's flying through the air so you're worried your car's gonna catch fire. One of the things that happens is people get stuck on highways. Cars catch fire and the fire and the winds just roll through the whole highway and everybody burns alive inside their cars. Yeah, that happened at what is it? The camp, park camp?

What was the big fire in Northern California? Oh, that's right. A ton of people died in their cars. Horrifying. Oh. You know, I got to tell you, the crazy thing about the Pacific Palisades was that eight years ago, probably eight, maybe almost nine years ago, I looked at houses there with my ex wife. And we came so close to my house because it was, it's such a beautiful place.

We didn't buy it because it was a little too expensive to be honest with you. It was like, it was like, you know, just a little out of our price, you know, point. But even like for a smaller house that was expensive, right? But yeah, beautiful. Maybe the last thing that's gorgeous, the last thing you would ever think the last thing is, um, that that house would burn down or there was a fire hazard, especially down like where Gelson's was or the whole town that dude, when I'm saying the town is gone, you know, the only structure of the standing is that guy Caruso that mayor,

the guy ran for mayor narrowly lost to Karen Bass. He built that mall out of fire retardant material. And that's the only structures that pretty much downtown that are in the town of Pacific Palisades. Frank Grillo, our buddy, his old house burned right to the ground. Just done. Just gone. Yeah, Segura's house burned to the ground. Everybody's.

Didn't Mel Gibson's? Yeah, Mel Gibson's burned to the ground too. Look at that, look at that dude. It's insane. Nobody in a million years, I'm telling you, when you bought a house there, nobody said anything about fire. No one. And by the way, fire insurance in LA, look at that one house, perfect. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, that's crazy. What's that made out of? I don't know. The wind blew a different direction or something. I don't know man. That's crazy. I think it's got to be what the house is made of cuz that winds blowing everywhere No, I don't think any house stands that kind of fire. Are you sure? Yeah, how do you know you're a builder? I am you're not a builder. That's Brian Callahan. Nah, I don't believe anything can can you make a house out of all concrete?

It doesn't matter. How's that one house? Look at that one house. Okay, that's a question We fucking lotto son. No, that's wind. Look at that though. Here's the thing, you don't want to live there now. If you're that house on the corner and everything you look at as devastation- The schools are gone. Right, right, the schools are gone. Here's my other thing. Here's the question I have. Okay, so you see that, right? Now, who is going to rebuild there and who's going to finance it? Are you going to get-

And then what kind of insurance are you going to be able to get? You're not going to get insurance. So are you going to get insurance? Is a bank going to finance that? Would you want to rebuild there when you have to wait for a gas station for a grocery store? There's nothing there. Right. So to me, I don't understand what, I don't know what happens to that very valuable property.

I don't know what happens to the entire city now because people are looting like fucking crazy. Gigantic groups of a hundred men organized are pulling into neighborhoods that are being evacuated, smashing through doors and pulling out TVs. There's film footage of them. There's also a bunch of people that have been caught setting fires. I think they should be put to death. One guy got caught setting fires and he had a UN debit card.

What? And he had a bunch, I'll send it to Jamie, the guy that got arrested for, I'll tell you which fire it was, but he got arrested, he had a UN card. I'll tell you exactly. I don't want to fuck this up. This kind of tragedy brings out the best in people and the worst in people. The one thing it does in these communities, it brings all these people together. You know, my buddy started to cry because I was on the phone with him. He lost everything, right?

And they're going to come stay with us. And he said, when I was on the phone, somebody, these people dropped by and dropped off clothes for them. And he's got a lot of money. And he started to cry, man. He was like, I can't tell you how many people have reached out. He had five cell phones and a United Nations prepaid debit card. I'm skeptical.

Of course you are. You're always skeptical. Is this conspiracy? You son of a bitch. I just don't want to be played. No. I think the New York Post did a thing about it. You know what I mean, though I don't want to be played. I don't know what's true. Maybe the New York Post didn't post that he had the debit card

Yeah, I don't know what's getting us from the Texas Patriot Twitter account You see I told you I'm I'm already like, I don't know They said that the New York Post has edited the info out of their article. Thank you Why because it's not spreading rumors Joe Rogan Patriot account said that oh so then oh You got you got played. Maybe not maybe the New York Post a bunch of pussies and a bunch of libtards The New York Post is very conservative they are kind of yeah, yeah got to tell you, this is, I do think this is how this, there's a sea change here. You got to have people with opposing points of view that are pro business, et cetera. You have just all progressives in Sacramento and in these, if you've got on the

city council. But you know what? Until Angelina's wake up and start voting for intelligent people who are not, forget right or left How about practical people who understand infrastructure who put in this caruso? Yeah Yeah, because the roads I live there man the roads the fucking power line. It's all it's all from 1950s Okay, so it's all above ground by the way, which is a real problem when the wind start blowing like that, correct Which is what happened in Maui as well. If you don't believe in direct energy weapons. Yes, I forgot about those from space. I wonder who's controlling those.

The Rothschilds. Yeah, the Rothschilds. It's a cabal of Jews. Yes, the invisible circle of Jews. Every conspiracy theory always goes right back to that. I'm just saying. Yeah. But the Mossad and the IDF and the influence on politics is pretty well established. There's both things.

It's like, no, it's not that the Jews aren't the problem in the whole world. No. And when everything goes sideways, people always do start blaming the Jews. Did we ever figure out who said that to us? Was it Jordan? Was it Jordan? Was it Jordan who started talking? Where's it Gad's at? And he started talking about

it's one of the marks of a collapsing society when they start blaming everything on the Jews. They blame the black plague on them. They're like, you guys cover your wells. My thing about that is whenever people go bad with the Jews, I'm always like, yeah, do you like Hollywood? They invented that. Yeah. And improv. Maybe that's not good. But then also stainless steel. The virtual reality well listen they have laser war Eastern European Jews have more Nobel prizes than I think any other ethnic group they're incredible yeah nobody wants it incredible group and you let's just talk about art and everything else Einstein Freud this episode is brought to you by

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Oh my God. Jesus Christ. Some of the funniest people of all time. One of the greatest of all time. Lenny Bruce. Thank you. Groundbreakers. The literal starter of this whole thing. Groundbreakers. Yeah. So I always say that. You're gonna have very... Also, probably funding Epstein, but also probably running a gigantic blackmail ring where they have control over all the politicians in the country. I might be doing that too if my survival depended on it. Especially if you're smart and you're really good at chess. I know what to do.

These guys like to fuck. Set them up. Set them up. Have we ever, has there been any, what is the width of the list? Here's my theory on the Jeffrey Epstein team. See what you think. Oh, I'd love to hear this. I think that the people are so powerful that I know in certain cases the lawyers go to

the lawyers of these powerful people and they go, how are you doing? Now, we got some evidence that your client, who's a family man and everything else, was banging girls on Jeffrey's Island getting pissed on yeah, whatever it is bro nuts put it in a sin sure We got little kids are shitting in his mouth sure hey, dude Hold on kind of podcast is this? They're doing drugs. They're taking wild chance as I put this shit cigar These are good cigars. Delicious. Shout out to Foundation Cigars. Yeah, it's great.

But I think what happened was there was a lot of money and every one of those fucking people got paid off. I think it just went away because there's money. They came to these really rich people and they were like, what's your privacy worth? What's your reputation worth? How about 10 million? How about 20? Well, this is the whole suspicion as to why the guy who was the CEO of Victoria Secrets

gave Jeffrey Epstein a fucking $60 million mansion in Manhattan. And controlled this whole estate. Yeah. And then there was the other guy who was some big CEO who gave him $150 million and had to resign. Yeah. A bunch of these guys resigned, money got passed around, and unbelievably the client list has not been released.

I know. I mean, it's been years. He was very good at laundering money, I guess. And he was also... Was he even though? I don't know what he really did. You know, the person do I trust about those things is Eric Weinstein another Jew Yes, another brilliant Jew. I love Eric. I love my favorite people. He's amazing

Yeah, but when I talked to him about he actually met Jeffrey Epstein and he said and Eric is just way too smart Yeah, you know, he's not a guy that you could fool right? and like this is a construct right away. That's what he said He said this guy's a construct. He said that he had a woman like a 21 year old girl that was sitting on his lap and he kept kind of like Nudging his knee up and down to make her tits bounce a little bit. He kept doing that while I was talking to him He's like, what is this and he's like also this guy does not know what he's talking about when it comes to finances You know, like Eric's a legitimate genius, you know a mathematician You can't lie to him about stuff like that. I would tell you his theory on on what he thinks this whole thing is This whole you know, it's a simulation or whatever. You're here

He's cuz you know, so so Newton there's Newtonian physics, right, which is this matter here, and then there's quantum physics, study of the electron that Einstein was the pioneer of and blah blah blah. So Einstein was working on what's called a theory of everything, which was the bridge. How do you, because a lot of times the rules in this ether in Newtonian in the world that we live in are different when it comes to gravity and light than they are on a quantum level. So what is the bridge? How do we bring them together?

How do we reconcile both realities? Right. So that's the theory of everything. So Eric is obsessed with that and kind of works on that. Well, he made his own theory of everything. Yeah. So his idea is that maybe the singularity is already here and maybe we're already machines and we are, so watch this, so we're already

machines replicating better machines, better versions of ourselves, and it's kind of an interesting, because it kind of dovetails with Buddhism, right? So watch this, I'm going to do an experiment on you that a Buddhist Rinpoche will ask somebody. Oh, should I get prepared? Get into a lotus position. There it is. There it is. Dude, good breathing. Good breathing. Too much Yang energy.

Bring your Yin in. DMT breathing today on Instagram. He was explaining how to spike your DMT and communicate with entities. And he was saying how you compress your balls and your asshole and all your sex organs and then through your abdominals And you exhale all your breath? And you breathe like this

And then you come and you get that DMT flow, oh, you get I don't work for me it's not working with one did you have a boner when he was telling you this like most of these things take a long fucking time And I'm busy. I'm busy, dude. I'm busy and I'm easily distracted. I have a lot of ADD. I'll just lick a toad Well, that's like my buddy. I did that shit. He did that. He licked a toe. He did the toad thing Oh the toad things odd. He called me up. He goes. Everything's different now. I'm like, all right, calm down. But that's five methoxy. That's five methoxy, dimethyltryptamine. Have you done it? Yeah, allegedly.

Yeah. The thing about Kundalini yoga and all these different ways where you can achieve those states, like Terence McKenna had a great line about that. He's like, one time the Buddha came to visit this town and this monk came to the Buddha and they said I have practiced a city of levitation for 10 years and now I can walk on water and the Buddha says Yeah, but the ferry's only a nickel And that was mckenna's conversation that was mckenna's take on so good Why would you do this when you could just take psychedelics?

Yeah, that's so good. You don't really have to fucking meditate for 10 years, homie. Right. You missed out on a lot of enlightenment while you're staring at a corner of the wall. Yeah, you hear those guys a lot. That's kind of why like Zen Masters will say I have nothing to teach you because once you The part of you so the idea would be you can't improve yourself. What? Because the part of you that wants to improve yourself is the part that needs improving. So until you get out of your own way and you realize that you, this construct called yourself,

is an imagined construct, you've invented this. So like Sam Harrison, he studies the Vedanta, right? So in his book, Spirituality Without Religion, he does this experiment, which the Buddhist will have you do. They'll say, so you're watching me right now, I'm talking. Now, there's this guy named Joe Rogan, okay, and we know Joe Rogan's got this. But for a second, try to locate where you really are. In other words, where are you actually listening to me from? Where are you? Where is the seat of your attention? Are you behind your face? Are you here?

And if you try to do that, it's kind of impossible to locate where you're hearing me from. There's this sort of echo, this idea that you're not here. This is a lot of mental jerking off. I'm right here. I'm looking at you right here I hear you know I know I hear you through my ears because if I plug this one up it sounds different and if I plug both of them Up I don't hear you at all. So I'm assuming the sounds coming in here. I'm right here. I'm talking to you You're still attached to your physical. This is all like Children of rich kids who sit around pondering the universe. Dude, this is Buddhism, man!

Come on, you're not even a good student. They take a backpack and they go on a trek and they stay in hostels because they're amazing. I turned to the other member and said, he's not ready yet. We have to break him down further. No, there's something to that, all bullshit aside. Yeah. It's a really weird exercise. Yeah.

Because the idea would be you can observe your brain, so you can observe your thoughts, you can observe your body, and you can observe your emotions. You can actually step outside and watch that stuff. And they get really good at that. They get really good at realizing that you're none of those things. You might be the observer, whoever that is, or whatever that is. And that's kind of where they... It's kind of an interesting exercise. That's why you see these dudes... That guy, that monk who set himself on fire, right? In 1963, that...

Oh, the Vietnam photo? Right. Now, David Halboshtan from the New York Times said, he didn't make a sound. They watched him. And he literally... They heard the air leave his lungs and he just fell over. So did the lady on the subway. She didn't make a sound either. Is that true? Well she was also probably asleep or something. She was until she was lit on fire.

Jesus Christ. Yeah. So I don't know, but the idea would be... Yeah, I've never seen anybody... He never moved. ...burning, covered, engulfed in flames. He might not be able to talk. Do you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, but he also didn't move, so he stayed there. Oh no, it was an incredible display of will. So he left his body, he was watching himself. That would be the idea behind, that's what they would say. Or he had incredible discipline and through insane pain he sat there. Yeah. Well have you seen those videos? How about when the Indian army went up, this is recent. That is such a fucking crazy photo. Jamie bring up the Indian army. Hold on, pull that photo back again. It's incredible. Look how insane that photo is. That guy is just sitting there, completely engulfed in flames.

The way the president of South Vietnam at the time, who was a staunch Roman Catholic, was treating Buddhists and he said, please have some compassion and lit himself on fire. Jesus Christ. What a bad motherfucker. Now, that's a good argument for celibacy because if that guy's getting a lot of pussy, he's not gonna... Well, that's right....fire himself's right fire because you're attached to a sensation. Yeah, so they they rid themselves again. Yeah, I have a long way If you burn me with this cigar, I'd be like fuck it, you know, I Can't I can't do that

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all the time. And the worst version of it is extreme narcissism, you know, and sociopathy. And then the best people are the people that think about others more than they think about themselves. Those are the people that we admire the most, the people that like genuinely think about other people. That's right. A lot. I think one thing that I really genuinely do try to do is I try to not think about myself. I think about things that I must do. I do think about things that I don't like that I did.

I don't like how I handle that conversation. Maybe I was coming in a little hot. Maybe I was coming in at a five and I should have been at a two and maybe the reason why I became a contentious argument was my fault. Yeah, you know and I'm very good I'm so much better at that Don't know I was when I was younger at like I can have a conversation with someone that I vehemently disagree with and keep It very civil. Yeah when we were younger both you and I we start shouting our opinion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah It's about winning. Also. We were all retarded

Yeah, and we were young and stupid and we had bad role models So there's a lot of things going on there, you know And they like men would shut the fuck up They like men would talk like men and also like I grew up essentially feral I I didn't have any like normal structure. I feel like I did a little bit too I think you certainly did you traveled all over the country all over the world? You were in a boarding school when you're in high school It's like like 13 like we talk. I remember talking to you about your live store. I'm like you it's amazing You're not more fucked up. You should be like really fuck my aunt and uncle said they go We just can't believe you're not in jail or fucking on drugs. Oh, yeah, you know

Well, you might be the best thing for someone is fucked up, which is a comedian Yeah, right because we're awesome though. They love the shit out of me. That was a huge not they're not bad Look, it could have my parents are nice too. It could have definitely been way worse It's not their fault. They had a child in 1967. That's right, and everybody was retarded back then That's right, and their parents went through the fucking depression. So everybody was Just it was a vile time. Yeah with so many different aspects of our society with violence and crime and it was, you know, no one knew what the fuck was going on. They had just killed Kennedy.

It was like it wasn't a time for rash. World War II was fresh, true destruction. Vietnam was ongoing. So it was a time of great confusion. And I don't think you could ever compare. It's like, we go back and we think about things that happened in the year 1200, like, oh, the barbaric conquests of cities and sacking of countries by the Mongols and all this crazy stuff. It's a different time. It's a different time. There's different people in a different time. Our parents grew up in

a different time. We are growing up in the most strange time because this is like coming out of this barbaric sort of primal history and recognizing in some strange way that we're more connected than ever before. And the electronics are bringing us connected, but also disconnecting us at the same time. So this is this bizarre struggle for like inter-human communication and personal communication and learning how to like exchange ideas with people and talk to people in a civil way while you're also, you're more informed than ever before, more informed on human behavior patterns and psychology. We're seeing it play out right before our eyes where you've sat in a total polar shift of some of the key tenants of the left and the right, where the left is all for a war, the left

is for censorship, the left is for whatever pharmaceutical drugs they're trying to push. Top down authority. It's crazy. Fidelity to authority too. Blind fidelity. Blind fidelity to authority. And also the left has also become very good at destruction in a lot of ways. I'm not saying the right doesn't have its problems, but the left has become, like you

and I were talking about this, like if you disagree with the left, they will come after everything. Everything. The right kind of goes, you're an idiot, and they'll make fun of you and do a meme about you. Yeah. But the left, you know, and that's what I call the make or break machine. You know, if you look at, and this is one of the things I talk about with my my specialist they just you take Caitlyn Jenner who came out Bruce Jenner has an

operation for eight eight hours comes as Caitlyn Jenner a minute later hours it was an eight hour the first one was about eight hours right on the face did a great job by the way by the way how about this can I just say this like don't say you'd fuck her no no no take it easy but I'm just saying don't say I'm just saying you think it is saying how about how about a little something for the surgeon? He should have won artist of the year that Bruce Jenner 65 year old man looked like a 45 year old woman Came out of it, but a minute later one woman of the year All right, dude

Listen, we all have our taste. Okay. I'm sorry. I like 45 year old ladies. That's why I'm looking at you this way. I Like me a hot 45 year old lady. I'm saying my makeup on Glamour magazine look very good. I go well kept 40s lady goes to the gym, does squats, looks good. That's what I'm talking about. A real athlete. Hanging on because she wants to hang on. Every bit of 6'2", maybe 6'3". When you're 23 you don't even have to hang on.

You're just there. You're perfect. That's why I don't take any advice on health from 26 year olds. Yeah, shut your fucking mouth. Shut your fucking mouth. Come get get into my body for a second. Get your hydrogen water You shut your fucking mouth. Fuck off. I gotta warm my feet up in the morning. You're 24 years old. Exactly. You were just born You were just born a matter of months ago. Correct. Shut your dirty mouth. Correct. I'm calcifying motherfucker And none of your shit's gonna help my calcification. I'm dying. I have arthritis. So do I.

Yeah. So do I. I gotta warm my feet up before I get out of the car. Okay. I have a whole thing about that. But you know, that's the reality getting older. Well, you're gonna be beat up, especially if you work out a lot. Yeah.

There's just no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Yeah. Shout out to Waste-a-Well for keeping me glued together though. I gotta get involved. Yeah, you gotta get involved. And get some peptides and all this too. I was talking to Zuckerberg yesterday and he's like, he got his knee reconstructed. I said, did you get on any peptides? He said, no. I go, do you hate healing? He looks great. He does. He looks good. He's got a thick

neck now. I know. He's got a thick neck. He's got a perm. Yeah. He's actually handsome. He's got a, he's wearing a jewel. He wears jewelry. Very expensive watch. He looks great. I looked at his watch. I was like, that's pricy. How much was a he's wearing a jewel. He wears jewelry very expensive watch. He looks great His watch was like that's pricing. How much was it? I don't know. I don't not a real watch head He doesn't look at prices sir. Oh, he doesn't have to know no free. It's like I'll take one of those, please Yeah, just miles. Yeah. Thanks for your data smiles I like him a lot. I do too. I really do. I don't know I'm not with them. I like him a lot. I do too. I really do.

I don't know. I've hung out with him. I've talked to him quite a few times. He's a good dude. He's a good dude with a very weird job, you know, being in control of what did he say it was? 3.1 billion people use? God damn.

3.2 billion fucking people use Facebook. I was telling you this the other day. I think this political transformation is interesting because now there's a cynical view. It's from jiu-jitsu. I agree. When you do MMA and you're around other men and you're out your testosterone goes up you start to feel your body you put your hands on the world you can have a different perspective for real it's gonna change it they have done studies I believe Jamie you can look at them where when they raise a man's testosterone he becomes more conservative yes yeah well listen man and it's also a nice lesson to all those nerds out there

that think they can never be a beast it's not true it's not true you don't have to hate people that are like physically competent and, you can be one of them. And I always bring up Mikey Musumichi just because he's awesome and he's a brilliant guy who's like, where's his thick glasses, he's always smiling, and he can fucking kill everybody in the room. Like Zuckerberg's on his way to becoming that. And he was, if you go back just a few years ago, he was this nerdy guy who's really smart but not really physical. He spent his wholedy guy, you know, who's like really smart, but not

not really physical and now his whole life up here. Now he's down here. He's talking about it. He was talking about on the podcast yesterday that he loves training because it gives him a chance to express this side that has been demonized in our culture. Yeah. It sounds different even. He's getting he's becoming a man. Well fucking broke men are raised by women In our schools and stuff and the end because of this pride in past 30 years Masculinity was always considered was was they were taught. It's a liability your Competitiveness all that sorry corporate environments, you know Which have really like put the brakes on masculine behavior and we talked about that that yesterday too, that like that's actually in some ways a good thing

because it gives women this opportunity to excel as well. You know, they shouldn't have to like become a man in order to get you should they shouldn't have that, you know, sexist perspective imposed upon them. And so but it's like everything else. It's like an overcorrection. Yeah, you know, like you have things go completely this way and then they come back like woke like the woke Ideology it went so far right or so far left now. It's kind of swinging back Well, the woke ideology has a major problem, which was it was reductive, right? It would reduce

Yes a complicated world to a binary world which which is ironic by the way But it would it would say to sort of of say, I can solve all this. There are oppressors and oppressed. There's power and powerless. Black and white. Also, there's no forgiveness. Zero forgiveness. Don't apologize. They'll really crucify you. And you can't, there's no retribution. There's no way to come back. But my 13 year old son, you can see these kids now at 13 Don't start talking to him about this shit because these kids are like that. They've already been they figured it out at 13 I'm telling you my son was like I don't feel I don't like this shit. I want to do jiu-jitsu and wrestle all the time fuck

also podcasts Correct. Yeah, they get to hear actual men who've made it through the maze and aren't a bitch Yeah, and I go hey, wait a minute that guy seems really nice and having fun. He's an actual man. Yeah, like there's real men. I don't shit. That's fun Just good stuff good stuff has a good time. Yeah, that's the point stop crying all the time Why are we fucking over sharing? Yeah? Why are we promoting and propping up people who fucking cry all the time listen? I cry I cry I cry if I'm happy I cry if I cry, I cry if I'm happy, I cry if I'm sad.

I cry when I think about my dogs that have died. I have a whole joke about that. It's like, there are a couple things. My whole joke is this. I can't call my friends. I had this joke, I was like, if I call my friends and I'm like, I'm sad, my friends gonna go, you got the wrong number, pussy.

And it's like, Joe Rogan, that's a mean way to talk to me. But it's true. I remember one time I called you. This fucking great. I called you and I remember my audition went bad and it was like the third, I would get right there. I was about to, and back then, remember if you got a TV show, your money problems were gone for a while. All I thought about was I get to drink great wine and buy a fucking house and take a minute. Right? You're thinking of a nice car. Remember that? And I fucking called you. And I go like this, I go, fuck dude, I don't know.

I was good. And he goes, you can't be good, you gotta be great. I go, I know, I know, I know. I just, I don't know, I'm just, I don't know, I just can't, I can't figure it out. And I was bummed, right? And I was basically saying I'm sad. And you fucking go, you go, yeah.

And he goes, what do you wanna do tonight? I go, I don't know, I just, a little down. He goes, hey, you'll be all right. Let's just fucking go out and eat and do do something. You'll figure it out fucking relax Don't don't get all like mopey about this shit. I was like, okay, and that was it Well, I don't get mopey man. Yeah, I had a lot of friends I got super mopey when they didn't get things so think about the audition process and I've always talked about this This is a part of the whole problem with the entire psychology of Los Angeles. Because a giant percentage of people at least had some way in the back of their head, some

sort of an aspiration to try to get famous. So you move there, you have already an exorbitant need for attention, because there's some hole in your past that you're trying to fill up with, I want to be a star. And then you're going somewhere, so you have this need for acceptance, and then you're trying to fill up with, I want to be a star. And then you're going somewhere, so you have this need for acceptance, and then you're going somewhere where people judge you, and most of the time judge you poorly. Most of the time they don't like you.

So most things you audition for you don't get, and if you get one, oh my God, now I'm in. And so now these manipulative people that are in charge of casting you they can essentially mold your Personality based on what they want if they want a left-wing personality if they want you to be pro Kamala and we need a black woman president you want you to say all that I took my eighth booster this morning Like I believe in science, you know? Love is love. Like they'll

turn you into that fucking thing. They'll turn you into that thing because the entire place is about the golden ticket. Everybody wants the golden ticket. I was so lucky because I never had any aspirations about acting. I had zero. I remember you called me. Remember you called me? But I mean, just let me tell you the whole story behind it. When MTV, when I did the half-hour comedy hour and then I got a development deal to do a sitcom, I had never taken a single acting class and all sudden they have this development deal and I'm over there and when the show that I was on got canceled I was

ready to go back to New York to be a comic again. I was like fuck this place but I bought off, I had a lease. I had a lease on an apartment for a year. I'm like, fuck. Right. So I was stuck in this. I couldn't afford to not be in this, because now I wasn't getting $20,000 a week anymore,

whatever the fuck I was doing. I was like, holy shit. And I was ready to leave. And so then I get another development deal. And then I audition for the second show I ever do. I only had two auditions ever, Hardball and News Radio, and I'm on two TV shows. I'm like, this is crazy.

And so I never went through that whole thing. I never went through that whole this could change my life. My life was already changed. I didn't, none of it made any sense to me. I was making all this money. I had a Toyota Supra Turbo. I was making all this money. I had a Toyota Supra turbo I was like this is a memory about that Acura the new Acura. Yeah, dude. I loved it You used to pick me up in that shit. It was like a little jet fighter car

I loved it, but it was just like for me. It was all gravy So I was watching everybody scramble for this thing and I was examining the psychology of it and how it affects everything Because when people didn't get auditions when they went on auditions then you went out to dinner with them at night they were so depressed. That would be me. Oh you all the time. You all the time. You wanted it so bad. I remember we were at the comic store one night. And I remember telling you like why don't you just do stand-up? Why don't you just throw yourself in a stand-up? Yeah. Like you're so funny dude. You're so good on stage but when you get up there sometimes you just throw yourself in a stand-up? Like, you're so funny, dude. You're so good on stage, but when you get up there, sometimes you're just like,

I feel like you're auditioning for a show. That's what I felt like you were doing when you were doing stand-up. You didn't want to be crazy. But then offstage, you would say silly things. You'd be much more vulnerable and ridiculous. And that was the funny Brian count. Like, just throw yourself into this thing. You remember when I was doing that, I finally got my own show.

I'm doing those shows when I was doing that, I finally got my own show. I'm doing those shows. I was like, hey, fucking dude, I don't like this. I want to do stand-up now. Now I told you, the cool thing about being 57, I'm enjoying stand-up more now than I ever have. Well, you're smarter now. Yeah.

And Dom Herrera said this to me years ago. He's like, Joe, he was like in his 60s at the time. He was like, Joe, I've never been sharper than ever. You just keep doing it and you keep getting better. We're so lucky we're comedy. We're so lucky. And he was, he was better in his 60s than he was in his, he was always great.

He's always- In his 60s, hilarious. I paid to see Dom Irera before I ever did standup comedy. Dom is the best, Dom, so did I, so did I. Did you? I was in college and I was at the improv in New York and my father took me to, we sat there and watched Dom Herrera. I remember that's why when I come off stage at the Laugh Factory and I was still a little

in awe of Dom and Dom goes, right, come over here. And I was like, oh, maybe he's going to give me some pointers, you know. And I go over there, I go, he goes, you know what I love about your act? I go, what? And he goes, you don't go for the laughs. That was the best is that. The subtle disc, the comedy disc. I became friends with Dom. Well, I think I'd actually done an open mic night or two before I met him. But then I before I paid to see him rather, then not that long afterwards so this is like Four years later like 92. I was working with him in

Montreal we did the Yeah, it wasn't though. He was super cool. Yeah, maybe was a year after he's a real comic man real comics So maybe was 93 so it was like five years later. So I'm like real raw in comedy. But I had my feet under me at that point in time where I had some material that could kill. Like I wasn't a really good comic, but I had a few jokes, especially sex jokes that were bangers. They were bangers. And so we did Montreal together. And then I was in Amsterdam billiards This is in my almost became a professional pool player stage Like if if pool was a real career like golf, I would have become a pool player. I just loved it I loved the pool. I'm lucky you didn't get into golf dude. I'm so lucky. You're a maniac. You're fucking crazy.

But um, I love the the pool players. I love the this the hang they were just so different They were outcasts and they were loose and fun and we said ridiculous shit to each other and everybody was laughing all the time It was always fun and I saw us playing pool every night and so I had a gig and before the gig I think or maybe after the gig I went to Amsterdam and before the gig I think or maybe after the gig I went to Amsterdam and Don Marrera pulls up and he's got his own cue and I was like Dom you play pool He's like, yeah you play pool I go I fucking love pool. I go let's play some pool and he was good

We're playing straight pool. I just like the type of pool they played in the movie The Hustler It's very rarely played in America anymore, but it's an amazing game You play with a stack of 15 balls and you knock off one. The first break is like a safe break and everybody moves balls around until someone makes a mistake and leaves an opening and that guy smashes into the balls and then you run as many balls you can in order. So it's called 14 and 1. So it doesn't matter if it's solid. You leave 14 balls on the table and the one ball like you leave a break ball and then

you rack the other 14. And so you shoot the break ball in the idea is to collide your cue ball into the stack and keep running. So let me give a shout out to Jason Shaw because Jason Shaw who's one of the best pool players on earth, one of the greatest of all time. He just broke the world record in straight pool this week. And I think, I think he ran 839 balls. Jason with a Y, Jay, he, he made 839 in a row. Fuck. Yeah. He's trying to get to a thousand. That's insane. So he got 832, 832. So the record before was set

by Willie Moscone in like the sixts and it was on an 8-foot table with big pockets. That was like 500 and something balls. So he beat that. He ran 714 balls. So that was the previous world record he also owned. And then he just ran 832 balls. When I tell you like the concentration involved in doing that, because you're talking about hours of play. I mean, I don't know how many racks of 15 balls is 832. Someone do the math. I think when you do, I think when you get that good at anything, you learn about you learn everything about life.

Well, he's a wizard. And about yourself. He is a wizard. Yeah, but you but I'm saying when you master something like that, I'm not saying your marriage is going to be great. I'm saying when you master something like that I'm not saying your marriage is gonna be great. I'm saying when you master something like that It's a it's a very good way to really get to know yourself. Here's how great professional pool is right now He doesn't even win most tournaments That's yep. Is there a nationality he can dominate? No

Filipinos are among the highest level on earth. Why do you know? Well, because the GIs went there in the 1950s and they brought pool. And Filipinos learned how to play pool in very tough conditions because it's very humid over there. Oh, wow. So humidity affects the tablecloth. And the moisture in the tablecloth slows down the roll of the balls and so you could take two approaches to that you could either hit

the balls hard which is like the American way to do it or the Filipinos learn to use the entire weight of the cue and have an elegant almost like artistic way of playing they have the most beautiful strokes. A stroke versus a hit. Yes, they have the most beautiful strokes, especially at the time. So there was a guy who came over in the 1970s and his name was Efren Reyes. And he came over under the nom de plur, Cesar Morales, and he was this Filipino kid who... He changed to a different Spanish name. Yeah, well, he went from Filipino to Mexican. Yeah. Because everybody would have known him.

Right. If they had ever gone to the Philippines. Because in the Philippines, he was already robbing everybody. And like a legitimate wizard, a chess genius, and unbelievable, widely considered, if not the greatest of all time, one of the, you know, it's like MMA. Like is it Khabib? Is it Mighty Mouse?

Is it John Jones? It's one of those deals. One of the absolute greatest pool players of all time and then from Efren Reyes came all these other this Filipino invasion where they were just dominating pool like and big money like giant money games half a million dollar matches Yeah, yeah a ton of them when you when you have a match How many games you playing it depends some of these guys will play like a race to 120 whoever wins? 120 games and they'll play it over three days and I'll do it for a hundred thousand dollars We're a race 120 games 120 games of nine ball. That's a lot. It's a lot

But that's a really gonna find out who's the better player So like I would have to and I played ten games and maybe I'm. So like, if you and I play 10 games and maybe I'm a little better than you, you could win those 10 games. You could get on a roll, you could get a lot of rolls with the balls where I get safe a few times or I scratch on the break a couple of times.

And so that's two more games that you maybe wouldn't have won if we were playing, you know, even. And you could win a race to 10. Like the odds of me winning a race to 10, if we were both, if I even and you could win a race to ten like the the odds of me winning a race to ten If we were both if I was just slightly better than you it'd be like, you know Maybe 60 40 or 55 45 something like that. Yeah, but when you get to a race to 120 then your odds Dwindle well, that's a better player always that begins a physical game. Yes. Now you're actually an athlete. Yes Well sort of sort of I mean you gotta be ration for sure

Yeah, but your body can't break down your body can't break down those good. The best guys are all fit You never get really big fat so's know that can handle they used to be what I love about the hustler one of the great greatest movies ever with Paul Newman is when Jackie What the fuck's his name? Jack Gleason said, it really came down to character. He washed his hands, washed his face, and drew a blank and came back and beat him. That was a really interesting lesson for me as a young man. Guys really do that too, they clear their mind.

They go in the bathroom, they throw cold water on their face, they wash their hands, they change their clothes. They just need something to break themselves out of it. It's a mental game Like, you know, Jeremy Jones who's another all-time great won the US Open good friend of mine. We were talking about he's like I think it's the most mental game in the world because it's not just about thinking about what happens It's about execution under pressure and then it's also about you're controlling the rotation of a ball execution under pressure. And then it's also about you're controlling the rotation of a ball. Like you, if you hit it this hard, it goes that far. But if you hit it this hard, it goes that far.

And that's what you want. You want the difference between an inch and an inch and a half. It's crazy. But everything, everything at the highest level is those micro adjustments. There's a reason why Magnus Carlsen wins all those chess tournaments. When they say when, when Rafa Nadal is one of the greatest tennis players ever, when he won Wimbledon they're all clapping, he comes in and the legend goes, I don't know if it's true but I heard it makes sense, he's coming in and he's going like this, he goes, I think my grip, I think I want to, he's not even paying attention, he's talking to his coach, I feel like my grip should be just a little bit like that, or still making micro adjustments,

you just won Wimbledon. You have to. That's what makes them so good in the first place. I know guys who change their grip all the time in their cue. Like sometimes they'll grab it like this with two fingers and then they change it and then they turn their wrist forward and they'll play for a year with their wrist forward. Oh, guys do weird shit.

But isn't stand up like, so I'm gonna shoot the special and I'm gonna throw it away and I gotta start again. And just because I've done five specials doesn't mean it's gonna be easier It's gonna be a motherfucker because I've got to come up with I got to make sure I don't repeat myself I got to make sure I'm not You got some something say Calcified month off of stand-up after I did my special because I didn't have anything to say you have to I'm like I got drained

Doing that thing especially doing it live. Yes, this is so draining And then I was like, let me think about what I want to talk about afterwards. And then- Do you have any ideas now? Yeah, oh yeah. I've got like 25 minutes now. Yeah.

Yeah, it's good stuff. It's fun. I'm having a good time. Do you ever get tired of talking to, do you ever get tired of doing this podcast, even though you have very interesting people? No, I don't. No. Oddly enough, out of all the things in my you have very interesting people? No, I don't.

No, oddly enough, out of all the things in my life, this is the one thing that I kind of net. Well, first of all, I choose who goes on it, right? So I'm always looking forward to talking to those people. But I love talking to people, man. I like it. Like the whole like moody loner thing, I don't get it. Like people to me are awesome.

They're interesting. I like being inspired. I don't get it. Like people to me are awesome. They're interesting. I like being inspired. I like being intrigued. I like trying to think about problem solvers on this podcast. Oh, yeah. You know? Oh, yeah. Well, I've definitely gotten a unexpected education. Yeah. You know, if you go back and listen to me in 2009, when I started this thing, I was a retard. We all were. Yeah, I think what was interesting is we would, I'd have these opinions and I'd state these truths. And then like, somebody would Google it and be like, Hey, hey, dude, no. It's like I had this whole areas, the fucking typical Brian Kael. I'm talking about cows, grass fed, all this shit. Hey, hey, man, never been on a farm. Okay, never, never raised cows. The farmer goes, Hey,

I love your podcast. Brian's wrong about everything he said, but it's cool. I fucking emailed the guy back, you know, I'm talking to him. And he gave me an education. He's like, I mean, what you're saying is just not true when it comes to how you raise cows. And there was a thousand things, of course, I had no idea. That's the biggest liability, I think, in a lot of ways. You know who you should talk to? You should have Will Harris on your show. Who's that? Will Harris runs this amazing farm in Georgia where it started out as an industrial farm that his family owned and he converted it to regenerative agriculture

over 20 years. And it took him forever to do it. What's the name of the farm again, Jamie? White Oak Pastures. And then there's Joel Saliton, who's a similar guy, who I think he was, they were talking about him having something to do with farming in the Trump administration. I don't know if that's come to pass, but if it does, I really do hope that he'll be involved because he's another brilliant guy who runs a regenerative farm. Farming's no joke. And what they do is essentially their type of farming is recreating nature

So they just contain nature instead of like having people You know Shuttle all these cows into these stalls and put a fucking trough in front of them and like no these these animals graze Out in the field they just control where they go and they eat what they normally would eat, and they make sure that they get plenty of new ground. So they move them to new ground when they've used up all the grass, they push them over there. And then the chickens do the same thing. They they have a chicken coop. That's a mobile chicken coop. They push it out. They open it up. They run around. And then he's dealing with like hawks killing his chickens. So you've got to come up with

ways to that's like this is like Mike Catherine.wood you know Mike great guy you know Mike Catharwood he was on Love Line oh yes yeah I know Mike and he lives in Austin so he they call what's his name on the radio cycle Mike Catharwood so Mike gets Mike comes down with his wife who's an actress and they're like I'm gonna I'm gonna I want to be in Austin the outskirts and I'm gonna I want to live on a farm. So he's a kid from LA. He goes, I get here and we got guinea fowl, we got little sheep, we got rabbits, and fucking the snakes are eating all my eggs. The guinea fowl are getting decimated by coyotes, foxes, whatever the fuck it is out there.

I mean, everything's dying. Coyotes, I'm just getting decimated by hawks coming in. I'll take your bunnies. That's adorable. You think you can raise bunnies? So they're just getting decimated. Guess what they did? What's the one change they made?

What'd they do? They got two Anatolian shepherds. Oh yeah. And bro, he said, even the fucking snakes are on those. He's like, those fucking dogs were just like, coyotes? Excuse me, sir? That's what they were bred for. Oh my god And then they're not indoor pets. No those fucking things will just Patrol your grounds and anything on four legs is gonna pay a very dear price good. Yeah, I want four of them

Yeah, don't fuck around. I'm gonna buy a ranch. Are you yeah, really? Yeah Yeah Fuck around. I'm gonna buy a ranch. Are you? Yeah, really? Yeah Yeah Been talking about it for a while. You know, they're waiting for the maybe but at the very least we're gonna put the podcast on the ranch Really? Yeah, cuz I want to have a ranch I also want to work a big piece of land in case things go sideways Where I can have like a whole community on a ranch. This is where I start my cult I'm gonna have just let people build on the ranch. Like give them a few acres. I got some kids. That's what I'm saying. Like imagine if you have like a 2000 acre property and on that 2000 acre property there's like

a literal community of you and your friends and you can go hunt on the land. Yeah. And then there's water. There's a lake there. I'll wear a tweed jacket. I'll smoke cigars. I'm not going to do any of the work, but I'll see you know I see any of the work boy. There's no need for that go and take care of that Hey, I think it's a crazy dream like it's a crazy idea to do but isn't everything a crazy I like to come in here is a crazy idea. Yeah building the mothership is a crazy idea But what if you had out like a big pond with fish? Yeah, so you can fish you had land you can shoot your own Tell you about freshwater fish. Yeah, can't eat a lot of them. Why cuz of poison. Oh, really? Yeah, there's a lot of mercury and freshwater fish Really? Yeah, there was a dude who

What did he win he won some big fishing Derby he was a big-time fisherman he started getting with some weird neurological condition and It turned out it was because he was just eating freshwater fish all the time in some lakes. So you got to think about rainfall. Like you remember when we were younger, acid rain, everybody's worried about acid rain. I don't know, it went away. But the thing about it is like pollutants in the air, when the rain comes down, it does bring all that shit into

the water, and then it stays in that water. So if you've got a lake and that lake gets drowned on with pollution rain, you're going to have a certain amount of toxic elements that are going to be in that water. Yeah, mercury is not good for your body. Why don't you Google how much, oh, Jamie's already on it, eating one freshwater fish equals a month of drinking forever chemicals water. Well, that's a problem. No more trout for me.

See, that's the problem, these forever chemicals. PFAS found at high levels in freshwater fish with most concern for vulnerable communities. So this is a good point about the vulnerable communities, because I was filming a TV show once in Detroit and we were on the banks of this river that was fucking clearly polluted and there was all these really poor people who were on the banks of that river that were fishing for food.

Not just a few, like quite a bunch of people that were trying to get their dinner on that river and you know people that were trying to get their dinner on that river. And you know, people that really, they needed that for food. They looked real poor and you know, there was a white, black, all kinds of different nationalities, Asians, and a lot of people. And I was like, Whoa, like Detroit is at least was in 2012 when I was filming this thing was fucking scary. Like, yeah, when you realize how a city, which was one of the richest cities in the country, they're there by one of the richest cities in the world in the 1950s during the the peak of the automotive industry, and then to see it just decimated, decimated, and these people

were just and I was like, Oh my god, they're gonna eat these fish. And then I thought, Oh my god, they have to eat these fish. Well, it was the great migration, right? So from the south, the black, the huge number of black people went up to Detroit looking for jobs. And the problem was when they got to there, first of all, the auto industry started to get decimated because it started to move toward Japan and different countries.

But also. In the 50s? In the, I can't remember. See, when the Great Migration was, it was before that. I feel like everything started fucking up in the 70s. Well, they had jobs and there was a whole thriving community. But really what happened also is that the auto workers union, I'm sorry, but it kept black people out of it. There's a lot of racism that went on. So a lot of people

couldn't find jobs. The Great Migration refers to a large scale movement of approximately 6 million African Americans from the rural south to urban areas in north and west between roughly 1916 and 1970, driven primarily by the desire to escape racial violence, pursue better economic opportunities, and access improved education in the north. Escaping Jim Crow laws. Didn't work out. Well it did for a while. Maybe in a way it did because they thrived in those areas where they probably wouldn't

have. Well it was like the Puerto Rican exodus from Puerto Rico to New York. They went up there looking for manufacturing jobs, then the manufacturing jobs coincided with moving south. So you had this massive number of people who didn't have anywhere to go. In the early 1900s, many African Americans migrated north to work in Detroit's booming industries. Yet they rarely saw the the benefits many white neighbors actively denied african-americans access to decent living conditions and job opportunities Mmm. There it is. Yeah So a lot of darkness and all that stuff there is but the city that's left over now You know you seen Roger and me right? Yeah, Michael Morris film, which is

Like I think his best one. He's like when he was pure Yeah, you know he wasn't like ideologically captured and editing things for effect. He was pure. That was a bummer I saw that he started doing that yeah It is a problem Because then it makes you question everything else well the biggest thing that every mainstream publication Is in crisis and I think they've earned it, they've deserved it.

The New York Times still makes money, but primarily not because of their articles that people read, it's primarily because they're crosswords, they're puzzles. But you know, yeah, but when you take things out of context and you have journalists that are 26 years old and have an ideological bent. The rest of us are going, the news doesn't reflect the world I live in. Whatever the fuck you're saying, I don't know who this is. I've never seen this. I live in a very different world.

It's going to be interesting to see. I think there's a liability though where podcasts take the place of mainstream media in some ways because then you have somebody who's very good at talking for three hours and they can really sway a lot of people but that's one side of their story. So now you have just that. So you have to be careful because sometimes it could just move things over here where again the truth is somewhere in the middle a lot of times or it's more nuanced or there's

just more to know. It's definitely more nuanced. I think there's always going to be a real problem with people that don't really know what's going on, say they know what's going on. When they say they know what's going on, it confuses everybody and fucks everything up. It's another version of gaslighting. So CNN and MSNBC, they gaslight you. They gaslight you and they actively promote propaganda and narratives that are not objectively true. And the problem on the other side is if you are in opposition

of that and you say you know this and you know that, but you really don't. Like you've got to be real clear with what you say They have people have to really be able to try like if you don't know you have to say ooh I didn't know that you have to say that yes If you do not say that no one is going to listen to you anymore and they shouldn't right because the difference between Someone who is completely independent and a podcaster and someone who's on CNN should be that no one is telling you what to do. So what is your ethical compass? What's the evidence to write? What's the evidence? But also what's your ethical compass? Are you trying to win and

be correct? Or are you trying to find out what's going on? But it's also about ratings. Right? So it is not. Yeah, but it's not because I don't think about ratings. No, you don't. I'm saying, but that's why I have them. That's right. See what I'm saying? Like it's not about ratings. Right. Like ratings come if people believe you. Like if you sit around thinking about the ratings, do you think you would be on? No. No. What do you mean? You'd be on this show right now. I was like saying things. How'd they come across? Can we do that again? Let me do that again.

You didn't even get it. You didn't even catch it. Oh, you fucker. Oh, wait a minute. Hey, you motherfucker. You're saying that Mark Zuckerberg and Mel Gibson get better ratings than me? This is bullshit. Occasionally.

Occasionally they do. You fucker. I like talking to everybody. I genuinely don't give a fuck like how the show's going to do. I don't think you can. I think if you do that, it'll distort what you do. And I think we've all seen people who fall victim to what they call audience capture. They start getting a crowd.

You see with a lot of guys online, they start saying a lot of wacky right-wing things, and everybody's like, yeah, finally, someone's telling the truth. And then they become just like a fucking nickel and dime version. Well, my compass for that is this. Whenever I hear somebody say on a podcast, or whatever, when they say, you guys, all those people over there are wrong. I'm the one whistleblower. I figured out I'm the one. Now, you do have mavericks, but I always am weary of when I hear somebody go, all that, the entire medical establishment is wrong and I'm right. And I go, I don't think so.

I think it's way, I just don't think you know enough. I don't think you as one person, I'm not going to just put all my bags. There is something called a scientific consensus. Sometimes that could be a bullshit consensus. We can be told we can be told the clients climate scientists all agree. Right true It's just how you get funding. So sometimes the incentive structures are there and the same with the medical stuff, correct? Let's just be a little bit. Yeah, let's be a little bit more Yeah, you can't say you know things because I've heard people who are those kind of people say they know things about me Yeah, like oh, you know that you can't use your phone on his show.

I've heard people say that, like, confidently. Yeah, the CIA is right behind that door. I've heard people confidently say that he's handled by the CIA. Listen, Mike Baker is my friend, and I'm pretty sure he's still in the CIA. I like him. I like him. I have him on because, like, here's a guy who was a CIA operative. Like, let me ask this guy

How and I really do believe he's a patriot and I really do think he's a great guy And I think there's a lot of them and I don't believe cops are bad, and I don't believe any of that bullshit I think there's bad people in every fucking business a lot of comedians that I think are rotten cunts Yeah, I don't like them. Yep, you know, but it doesn't mean I hate comedians I love comedians. But there's some comedians that fucking suck. And if you encounter those comedians, and that's your only exposure to comedians, you're going to think, oh my God, these guys are all selfish assholes and narcissists and they rob people. And yeah, it's just a few. There's

just a few of those. I also know some CIA people, like real CIA people, and you talk to them and it's like, they're always like this, they're always like, dude, I wish we were as competent as people say. I people and you talk to them and it's like they're always like this I was like dude, I wish we were as competence people say I mean, yeah if you were involved to heaven-haver I just had breakfast with him today. Love that guy. I love that to death and he's fine. I see you coming on my show Yeah, I love him. Yeah, I just said that he's that he that was his business for a while, correct I know a bunch of those guys. Correct. And you need them.

You need them. You want to know how the real world works? The real world works? Talk to Evan. Have a conversation with Evan. Andy Stonk says the same thing. Same thing. I said to him, I went to his wedding and I loved everybody there because they were all

his closest friends. Evan was there and stuff and that was the first time I met Evan. And I'm just talking to these tier one guys and they just seemed so intelligent and they were so, and they were, and John Dudley was there and a lot of great guys, but I'm talking to some pretty cool people who have done a lot with their life and they were well rounded and everything else. And I said, man, I just think it'd be so fun to be in that, in a tier one unit because they're just all so, they're so smart and they just have such a wide breadth of knowledge. Andy goes, God, you're so fucking wrong.

That's Andy. Andy's the best. Andy had one of the quickest paths of black belts I think I've ever seen. Oh, is he a black belt now? Yep. Well, he lives with a black belt instructor. That's the thing. When your wife is a black belt, you better get your fucking P's and Q's in order, son.

You better dot your I's, cross your T's. I think he's probably a quick study. That dude is so fucking smart. He's another guy who's very smart. Genius, but also obsessive. Like he got obsessive with bow hunting, became very proficient at bow hunting very quickly. And then, you know, living with a black belt though, what a huge advantage. You can just drill with your wife all the time.

He's also a CLTM6 guy, so he's got some physicality. Also kind of hot. You know, your wife's strangling you every day like hot. And she could probably kick his ass in the beginning. Leah is built like a true athlete. Oh yeah. You cannot be light in the ass. Super smart too. Yeah. Super smart. Quiet. Which I think most black belts are. I think it's just there's too many things you have to consider to get that good at jujitsu There's so there's infinite Yeah

You could be a brute and just brute strength your way through a lot of it and you know be kind of halfway dumb And get to black belt. Maybe my only regret is not going down that rabbit hole. I Train now I wake up every morning going train now. I wake up every morning going ah yeah you don't train much anymore right? No I want to though this is the thing I'm trying to rehab my fucking knee my knee is the thing that's keeping me from doing it right now I twisted it when I was hunting this year yeah pretty bad my joke is that happened to me the other day I trained at this this in Nono's MMA who I love it down in Hermosa and I love doing it, but of course I'm rolling

with a 26 year old and I'm like, let's go. And of course I'm 57 and I see his ankle. Don't give me your ankle, bro. I'm an ankle guy. I pick his ankle, drive him to the ground, walk and poke that ankle up. I'm back, I'm back, bro. I'm a wrestler, high school.

High school dude. Had trouble looking left for 11 days. All right? Fucking worth it. You know Well, you got it when you're old. You got a role in a different way You got a role like role with John Jock Machado. Okay, John Jock Machado who was you know, my instructor since 1998 John Jock is still rolling and still dominating black belts on the mat Yeah, when John Jock rolls, he never moves fast. There's no fast.

His knowledge is so wide. His understanding of Jiu Jitsu, he's talking to you, Joe Hogan, Joe Hogan, I'm about to pass your guard. He's talking shit to you. He does whatever he wants. But it's smooth and slow, and because of that, he does not get hurt. He's had a few injuries over the year, when it taught when you you deal with like high-level black belts who roll on a consistent basis and John jocks in his 50s now He is not hurt. He's still like looks fantastic. He's like filled with energy trains all the time

Yeah, I'll try to do that ape shit that you did when you were 23 like I don't get I don't get hurt when I'm rolling with somebody's really good. Yeah, you can't be that guy. You gotta like, you know, you gotta move slow. Yeah. slow and strong. I like to maintain your mobility. I was watching Arman Sarukian, who's fighting Islam Makachev for the lightweight title next weekend. And he was doing this mobility and flexibility routine. You're like, this is insane. He's so jacked and so mobile, like more than I think anybody I've ever seen. Well, part of that also, I think that one of the people don't talk about this, I think the Dagestanis, the Russians like Marab, and those, oh Jesus Christ. That's the dude who's fighting for the lightweight title. And by the way, they fought a few years

back and it was, god damn son. Dude, I thought I was straight this whole time. God damn son. Holy shit. That dude isn't even flexing right there. That's a good looking man. I mean that's a strong man is what I meant. Good looking and strong. God I'm gay. You're correct on both. Jesus. What a monster. Yeah homeboys fucking jacked. By the way his coach is a gold medalist.

Super skillful too. I think his coach is a gold medalist Olympic wrestler. Here's the thing about those guys. I think one of their advantages that nobody talks about is that when you get a guy like Khabib, you get these Dagestanis, you get these Russians, these Armenians and stuff. They've been training probably since they were six. And so what happens is your tendons and everything gets really, really strong. And also, if you ever watched like Alexander Karelin, the way they would warm up, those guys, Karelin could do a backflip,

go splits and all that. Those guys, the way they warm up was, it was scientific. Yes. And so, because they knew that the micro damage that happens, and so they would strengthen all the connective tissue first. And I think a lot of times, guys like Marab, guys like Umar, since they've been training so long, their bodies are different, they feel different, they are different, they're more rugged, so they don't get injured, they don't deal with injuries. I think one of the biggest things that is hard for a lot of guys. They all get injured.

They might get injured, I think they get injured less. They probably do. Or they train differently. You're definitely right that their bodies are stronger because they've been doing it since they were younger and that they get developed in that way. But the opposite is true with striking. Not the opposite, but it's also true with striking that if you start striking when you're in your 30s, you're never going to catch Floyd Mayweather.

Never. Never. You need that radar. Well, you need that. Your body needs to be sort of developed to strike. Yeah, but you also have to be... If you look at the the boxers like if you look Floyd Mayweather His father and his uncle said to him like they knew they were like Boxing is just about as much about not getting hit Like you can be great and everything else if your emphasis isn't on every time you throw you got to be in a position

Where you're not gonna get hit every time you step custom. I was that way too every time you you throw your step Right and and that huge part of that is it was all a foot game. And all of that is if you haven't been trained properly, as you're learning how to box, you're gonna take a lot of damage. And you're fucked. You're fucked after a while. And if you look at those really good coaches, those old guys, Eddie Foch, who taught, who would teach the jab, your hand was here. Because instead of here you were taking shots, you would be here. So if you watch him fight with Ken Norton, when he fought Ali, he said, when you fight Ali, Ali's here when he jabs, he's doing this. I want your hand here.

So you can see Norton catching Ali's jab and then boom, answering back and catching Ali in the face. Those little details make like literally all the difference in whether you box five more years or if you're done five years earlier. Well, the best example is Floyd, right? Because he got hit less than anybody ever. I can count them on my hand. Yeah. If you want to say like who's the best boxer of all time, I always say Floyd because he got hit less than anybody. And that's the whole thing. And by the way, didn't have the kind of power that any of these other guys had. Didn't have that like that Roy Jones power puncher But but he broke his hands a bunch of times. Yeah, that was part of the problem

Yeah, and but even then like he wasn't a robust guy, right, you know, so he was just I mean, what's his name? Travonte Davis or anything? Right, right. Well, that's a great example of a guy which is preposterous power You know just preposterous power. Did you see Arthur Betterbeve who is fighting Dmitry Beval? He did a hammer workout on a tire where he hit a tire for an hour. He did? For an hour? What? He hit a tire for an hour with a sledgehammer.

Those Dagestanis are made of different fucking... He's Chechnya. Isn't he Chechnya? But same shit. Mountain people. Hamzat Chamayev, savage people. Yeah. And he's one of the scariest boxers of all time. The only fight that he had as a professional that went the distance is Bevol.

The only fight. And did you see when Bevol would have his hands up? He was 19-0 at 19 knockouts. That's fucking insane. When you have your hands up with him, he'll still concuss you. He hits that hard. Shut up. Just basic two, like ones and twos, maybe a hook once in a while. There's a great video where this boxer who was you know world-class boxer Who's a professional got brought in to box bitter beef and his coach said to him just do your best

He's like do my best Do my bill what the fuck are you talking do my bomb gonna fuck this dude up and he goes and he hit me The first time he hit me it was like nothing I'd ever experienced I like it was almost like my body left me and I was like That's your job dude better be of is hitting people to like this. Yeah, it's all short Everything is short and it's just but he'll need your arm power that they'll your arms Oh, yeah, he'll break your arms down and then by round five enjoy that shit. Canelo does a lot of that He does a lot of that he smashes guys arms. I think the best box up with him

Yeah, you don't want that guy punching arms. Well, I've always said that about look at look at his workouts with his wrists and fists Yes, this is his warm-up better be of is one of the craziest specimens because he's almost 40 years old too So he had this endurance fight with beval. So it's 12 rounds of super high pace, very endurance heavy. And he was the one that was dominating at the last round. Correct. Correct. That's February 22nd. I'm fucking pumped for that fight. They're going to fight again? Oh yeah. It's the rematch. I'm very pumped for that fight because Beval is so goddamn good too. What he did to Canelo, like no one's ever done that Canelo.

I think the best fighter, I think you can make an argument for certainly top three fighters of all time is Usyk. Yes. I think he's incredible. Incredible. I mean I've watched every one of his fights. That dude is on such a different level. He's smaller than everybody.

He's fighting giants. He's fighting giants. When you're fighting a guy who's 60 pounds heavier with 10 ounce 12 ounce gloves It makes such a world of difference trying to actually when the guy is fucking Anthony Joshua You know, but please understand Usyk fought it. I think 75 when he started out. He's not a big guy He's like 225 230 as a heavyweight 20 not big not big and that's a lot of the way That was Tyson's weight when he was in his prime Too yeah, there's something to be said for that because a 220 pound man

Like Mike Tyson can knock out any human being that's ever lived your job amount of power. He can generate is insane So then you have the speed of being only 220 pounds instead of 290 You know or like remember when Andy Ruiz fought Joshua the second time and he got real fat. Yeah, so sad Yeah, because like you had a real chance of like carving out a legacy the the knockout in the first fight was fucking huge Yeah, he has speed. Oh my god The shit is fucking boxing combinations are so fluid. He punches like a middleweight. Yeah, it's a bronze medalist I don't know. I think he is. I think he did medal in the Olympics. Great boxer. Very, very schooled boxer. Super nice guy

too. When he came on to the podcast after he beat Joshua, he had a diamond-encrusted watch. He came in a Rolls Royce. I was like, let's go. Let's go, Andy. Let's go. I like it. We got to get you an accountant though. Don't spend too much your money on that. Yeah, probably should get an accountant and probably don't get to 280 pounds. The problem is then all of a sudden you're a superstar and you're partying and you're having cervezas and hanging with the boys. I think there's also, you've gotta take the responsibility on of being a champion. It's hard to hold that. It's one thing, it's like starting a business.

You can get people to know about your business. It's running a business is very different. Yeah, becoming a champion. A little bit like you get in the building a chance thing staying champ maintaining champion I remember Matt Hughes when BJ Penn beat him. He told me he goes honestly Joe. It's a weight off my back I was like really And I was like it makes sense though cuz he was just smashing everybody and he was the person that everyone was chasing Yeah, it's like got a fucking way on your psyche.'s why John Jones to me is just what is this Jamie? He didn't win in the qualification tournaments for the Olympics. Oh, he didn't go to the Olympics. Okay, okay

We did win a bunch of other stuff. He represented Mexico in the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games Qualification tournaments losing to oh Cuba Cuba man you ever watch how I train the Cubans are amazing because they don't hit mitts. You'll have a guy and they just move and move and move and once in a while the coach will lift a glove, about one shot, you know, move and move and move. It's all footwork. You don't learn where it is. It's all footwork.

You throw one punch, you know, every... They like the Russians, developed a very technical and very technique oriented way of combat sports. That's why the Russians were so good at Olympics at wrestling rather because they were so technical where the Americans would just try to work harder than everybody else. Yeah. And the Russians like figured out like no there's a time you work hard and there's a time you recover and you have to have active recovery and they got real scientific about their physical training real like Dan Gable when he did the

podcast was explaining to me how he learned sauna from the Eastern block people. Really? Yeah. Really? They started incorporating sauna. He's like, this is another added element that raises your endurance. Why? Because they would train hard. And then after training, you sit in that sauna for 20 minutes at 190 degrees, man, your heart is hammering. So you're getting static cardio. Also, it has an EPO like effect where it's like a mild dose of EPO. It raises your red blood cells. Really? Yeah, my endurance is raised significantly when I started doing sauna. What about cold plunges? That's controversial

still, right? Well, cold plunges is not controversial in terms of the way it makes you feel. okay? So the psychological benefits of the increase in dopamine levels and norepinephrine, that is 100% established. I think that is one of the most powerful aspects of the cold plunge. Also, what's been established is that when you do the cold plunge before exercise, it raises testosterone.

So there's something about doing the cold plunge and then forcing your body to heat up through a warm up and then going through your workout that raises testosterone for people. And there was a study that was done where it showed this guy went from having an extremely low testosterone level to having a testosterone level where his doctor thought he was juicing. And all he changed was he started doing cold plunge before every workout. Put your body under stress. It's not good after workout. Really?

No. Because you want hypertrophy and you want muscles to grow and strengthen. And part of that growth and strengthening is inflammation. So that inflammation is actually good. Heat, on the other hand, is good after workouts. So it's good for the effect of it raises your red blood That's interesting. So Dan Gable said he would do a sauna after working out. Yes, it raised his endurance Yes, it raises your endurance and the the Eastern black athletes already knew that the fade or was famous for using sauna

Yeah, fade or would use sauna and cold plunge so they use hot and cold therapy. So would use sauna and cold plunge. So they use hot and cold therapy. So, um, Huberman recommends doing that once a week. And what you do is you go back and forth and back and forth. You always finish on cold though. Always allow your body to reheat itself up. Don't finish on sauna. So you would do cold plunge or sauna, cold plunge, sauna, cold plunge, however many cycles you want to do it. But he said that raises your human growth hormone level. The Swedes do that. I did that in fucking Sweden where I was with all these Vikings. It's fucking so funny.

Well, the Finnish studies on sauna are amazing. What it's shown, these are long-term studies over 20 years, it shows that people who took the sauna four days a week for 20 minutes at a time at 175 degrees had a 40% decrease in all cause mortality compared to their peers. What? 40% decrease in all cause mortality. Heart attack, stroke, cancer, 40% decrease. Because the heat shock proteins, the stress on your body, it makes you more resilient,

it makes you more vibrant, you have more energy and you have less inflammation after it's over. Wow. Your body produces those heat shock proteins you feel amazing When you get out you feel loose and relaxed you have a sauna here. I have a sauna everywhere Yeah, I don't I don't fuck around dude. I even have a portable sauna that I bring with me. It's like a blanket sauna That's one of our sponsors. What's that called? I'll hug you. What's that blanket son sponsor? sauna called Find that sucker after P. It's really good, you gotta pee?

Yeah. Well, pee right now. Let's go pee. We'll pee right now, we'll be right back. We'll be right back. There's a scene in a book called Blood Meridian where the guy chops a dude's head off with that fucking knife. Let me see that boning knife.

Well, I don't know what this knife is. Who gave me this? Someone cool. Sure. Don't fucking ruin it for everybody. I mean, that's a knife. I don't know what you'd do with this if you were if you had to nothing good clear brush yeah nothing good

clear and knife son what is this it's a hacking knife yeah okay it's when it's when you're you're coming in and you want to just clear it clear house no you're an asshole you have a giant knife on your table. That's what it's for. What's the knife for? Just in case, bro. When the president came, they had to take those axes off the wall. Really? Yeah. When Trump came in here. Because you might go crazy. I might go crazy and grab one of those and impale them in the forehead. Those axes look like they actually would work too. Oh, those are real. Yeah. Those are the Jack Carr tomahawks. They look like you can throw them. Well, I don't think you throw them

I think you're fucking Yeah Wow, you know, oh You heard me that away. You're making me uncomfortable buddy. Yeah Something aggressive about a knife. That's very aggressive. This is a very aggressive. Yeah, that's a ridiculous knife That's like little that's overkill. Do we know who gave it to me? That's like somebody if somebody wears that on their belt. I'm like your dick is tiny. That's incredible Or you're a fucking complete psycho or you're a psycho or you're living in downtown Los Angeles right now. That's right. That's right

That's what's gonna be really crazy. Well, I want to see what happens because I think first of all rents are gonna Go through the roof. This is gonna be crazy. There is a major... Where is everybody going to live? It's a major housing shortage. This is a major problem. Where are you going to live? Where are all those people in the Palisades going to go? There's thousands and thousands and thousands of houses. I think people who own... I'll tell you what's going to happen, I think.

I think people that own houses that are not in fire zones, even if they're small, are going to sell their houses for millions of dollars. Because you got those very wealthy people going, I need a place, name a price. And your house might be worth $2 million, you're going to sell it for four. Wow. I think that's what's going to happen. I really do. That's going to be even more fucked.

It's going to be completely fucked. And remember, Los Angeles has been the worst at building affordable housing or just housing in general. All the permitting you got to go through, all the red tape. They can't do it. There's so many issues. There's so many issues, but especially housing, especially. We have, what is it? I think poverty rate in Los Angeles is like second to none. The schools are terrible. The homeless situation is I think the second. But hey, it's sunny. Yeah, it's sunny. People are really pretty yeah yeah there's a lot of tik tok stars there's a lot of tik tok stars and that's that's good for our culture

that's good for our culture what was the name of that sauna blanket again spell it bond charge it's a blanket yeah it's a blanket yeah you can carry it with you when you go on vacation and you sauna the shit out of yourself anywhere you go. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not doing that, but I appreciate it. I live by sauna, man. If I had to choose between one thing that I eliminated... Every day.

Yeah, if I had to take cold plunge or sauna, I would take sauna all day. I think cold plunge is very important and it's really good for just my mental state. I just like that I forced myself to get in there. I like it. I win every day. I win. Well, I said to you when you signed that deal, I go, I say this people about you, you've not changed even a little bit. Well, if anything, you've calmed down, you have peace of mind, but you've not changed as like in terms of like, you become a very powerful influential person, but I've never, I haven, but I've never I haven't seen you

Change I haven't seen you like it hasn't gone to your head I said why and you go I think it's because I do something really difficult every day And it just reminds me of what a bitch I am yeah, which I think is down every day. I think that's important I think it's everything because I think mental health is attached to that and too many people have too much anxiety and too much like is attached to that. I think too many people have too much anxiety and too much like, BLEUGH. Success can do that. Yeah, well the pressure. And also I don't read comments, which is huge. Yeah, fuck comments. A lot of people out there are reading comments. I never read one comment. Fuck off. I was talking to Zuck about that yesterday. I'm like, you gotta stop reading comments.

He reads comments? Yeah. I'll tell him to stop right now. Yeah, it's so bad for you. Comments. It's so bad for you. I've never read one fight, especially good ones. I don't want to hear it because it's going to have power over me. I don't want to hear the good ones either. I appreciate them. I appreciate people. Even the bad comments.

I get it. Look, you know, if I was 15, I would be the worst fucking poster on Twitter of all time. I'd be a total troll. I'd be on 4chan. I'd be on all those things. I'd be talking mad shit all day long Yeah, you know that kid my time my time He says that kid is really kid who's like 17 years old and a complete try this podcast

It was so fun, but he's just like that those kids at that age They are about just there's no reverence to anything. No, they want to tear it all down They want to tear it all down. Also, it's all about making a living getting eyeballs on you. That's what their business is eyeballs. So if they can slap someone at a supermarket or fucking scare someone in line at the grocery store or whatever the fuck they do to get attention, that's their currency. Their currency is attention. And if you beat their ass, it's actually good for them.

That's right. There's no way to- Which is really crazy. It's just a different time. It's the end of Rome. It's the end of Rome. It's the collapse of a really sick civilization. The thing that you're seeing with this whole woke fire department, which is we're talking

about that lady saying if your husband's in that burning building, that they want someone who looks like me, who looks like them. That's not what they want. But this is all this ideological, bizarre cult that these people have fallen into that leads to the collapse of great civilizations because the people that worked hard to make this like very easy life, those people don't get respected. And then the people that you think are the marginalized people that should be elevated through equity, these people that haven't done anything, now you're giving them all the power. And you're also letting them be the bullies of the bullies now, right? So they got picked on their whole life.

Now they're, we're, we're kicking ass now. We get things done. I mean, it was pride magazine in the whatever website. I'll send you this because it's real. See like, see if you can find that Jamie, so I don't have to look for it. But the, uh, the, the headline said the LBGT fire chief is showing that she can get things done. Really? Yeah.

This is in the middle of the biggest disaster in the history of Los Angeles. Tone death. But saying that she can get it done, shows she can get it done. Like, what does get it done? Yeah. What does that mean? Yeah. Run out of water, collapse society, what does that mean? Run out of water? Collapse society? What does it mean?

I don't know if the blame lays in the fire department, by the way, here. I think... You watch, I'm going to make a prediction. I bet it's just already happening. I promise you that the progressive government in Los Angeles and in Sacramento is going to blame not infrastructure, not government incompetence, not mismanagement, but climate change. I promise. Watch. Well, good luck with that. Good luck with it.

Here it is. Amid Palisades Fire, Los Angeles' first LBGTQ Plus Fire Chief is proving lesbians get it done. Excuse me, lesbians get it done. Not she gets it done. It's even dumber than I thought. She's proving lesbians get it done. So her sexual procl than I thought. She's proving lesbian get it done. So her sexual proclivity is really what makes it good.

So what does that mean? Like Elon Musk is proving heterosexuals build rockets? Is that what that means? It's just identity politics. It's nonsense. It's nonsense people writing nonsense things. It's so fucking dumb. It's placing a group above an individual, right? So treat that person like an individual. I don't give a shit that she's into women. I don't care. Okay, she's confident. She's competent I'll fucking vote for her all day. I don't know if she is I don't know enough about her You can't call it climate change because LA's been like that forever the reason why they filmed in LA in the fucking first place Because LA doesn't have rain. That's right. That's why they started Hollywood down there until what happened It got too expensive to do business,

got too expensive to shoot in LA. Taxes and everything else, it got too expensive. It is too expensive to open restaurants or anything else in LA. So you've got this great sandwich chain I'm obsessed with called Snarf's, right? I just like their, I think they have one in Austin. Yeah, you brought them here.

I love them. What do you mean you think you have, they brought them here. Austin. Yeah, you brought them here. I love them. What do you mean you think you have, they brought them here. Yeah, yeah, I brought them here. Yeah. I love their sandwiches, dude. And that company is so good that I literally was, I want to get involved in the franchise business because I think they're crushing.

And they will not open in Los Angeles. It's too expensive. There are too many, a friend of mine who you and I both know has businesses in Texas and businesses in Los Angeles, and a lot of them, okay? I'll tell you who it is later. Ooh, I love a suspense. So in his California businesses,

he's been sued over 1,000 times. I think it's 1,002 times. 1,002 times in the 18 years he's been in business. In Texas, he's been sued once, once. And in that case, they were right to sue them because they did something wrong. And it's pretty interesting because there's literally a difference in culture.

There's a difference in the notion of, I'm responsible for my actions, somebody else is responsible for the state I'm in. And that is a mind virus that has taken over Los Angeles, taken over California in my opinion. A lot of this is just mindset. And I think it's very ironic, with all due respect, because I have a lot of friends who lost houses in the Palisades area and everything else. But if you had walked through the Palisades, you would have seen a lot, most of them voted for Karen Bass. I'm not saying Karen Bass deserves all this blame, but I'm saying there was a lot of Kamala

stuff there, very little Trump stuff. And it's ironic to me, because I do think to an extent, without having done enough research, but I've done some, that you have to lace at least some of the blame for this total inability to respond to government mismanagement. And the fact that this government, this progressive government in California, in Sacramento, in Los Angeles, put things like climate change and social justice ahead of fucking basic infrastructure. Basic infrastructure. You knew that they were predicting and they knew how dry this season was.

Fucking eight months without rain. Okay guys? So we need to figure out, there is a way to solve every problem. You gotta, do you need an army of firefighters? They cut 17%. They cut 17.6 million dollars from the fire budget in Los Angeles wasn't it 17% or was it 17 point six million dollars there you go that's what I read see if that's true I thought it was percent, but maybe I think it's 17 point six. Maybe that's what it turned out

I don't know what that might be 17%. It might be they have a hundred million dollar budget and they cut it down to seven Either way, obviously, it's like eight hundred million dollars or something. Yeah, that's the whole budget Yeah, it's a lot. So they only cut 17 million out of 800 but still why would you cut anything out of one of the most important things? Obviously now, you know now, you know, that was a huge mistake. Well, now, you know, you should have increased the budget Yeah Well to your to your point, this was a perfect storm to an extent, and there's a limit to what any fire department can do. There's a limit, right?

We live in Los Angeles, fires are a reality, earthquakes are a reality, mudslides are a reality. We know this. California's a tough place to live in. It's great, but there are a lot of liabilities. I just think if you know that that's the case Something went wrong and our infrastructure the fact that our fire hydrants and it happened in Colorado three years ago But the fact that the fire hydrants lost pressure you can predict these things, right? Well again, I bring it back to Trump because Trump was saying this all could be solved and he was right

What he was saying is true and that they are doing it to protect a fucking smelt That exists a Delta smelt that exists other places. I love the Delta smelt. I don't what does that thing? Okay, let me see what a Delta shell looks like. I don't give a fuck about those things Yeah, 17 million last year. She directed more for 2023 2024 fiscal year Los Angeles allocated 837 million to Los Angeles Fire Department accounting for roughly 65% of the $1.3 billion budget designated for homelessness initiatives. Which didn't work.

What? Which did nothing. 65% for homelessness initiatives? Which didn't work. Roughly half the budget for homelessness went unspent. These motherfuckers. And let me say something else about that. These motherfuckers.

The homeless thing too. You talked to Progressive about the homeless thing. You know what they'll say? It's a housing shortage. Oh yeah. No it's not. It's a drug and mental health problem. Housing, housing, housing. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry dude. Housing, housing, housing. And we can't fix it. It's a mental health and drug problem. But we need more money. So fuck off. We spent 24 billion dollars last year. 24 billion in California on homelessness. On a homeless industrial complex. Yeah, that's what it is. It's a bunch of people making money off of nonprofits. Of course. Yeah, and so there's there's a vested interest in keeping homeless a problem Yeah, the real problem is that there's homeless at all

Like how is that possible in the greatest society the world's ever known? But because we've put very little effort into stopping it very little effort into education and fixing people's mental health problems and mental health institutions for people that are sick and twisted and real solutions like Ibogaine, real things that they can do to sort of reset people's minds and help them get out of it, real programs to help people integrate back into society in a meaningful way. I know a guy who was a tier one guy who was dealing with real demons and he did one session of Ibogaine and it changed everything. Yeah, well there's a lot of people like that.

I had the former governor of Texas Rick Perry on and he was explaining it. And that's surprising that Rick Perry who's, you know, a Texas conservative. Yep, yep. It was very reluctant and then he knew someone who came back from the war and was suffering and you know, he got involved and Does it repair the neural pathways? Yeah, yeah, it helps people with Parkinson's disease. Wow.

Yeah, crazy completely rewires the brain of addicted people. Damn. Stops the pathways, gives you an insight as to why you're addicted in the first place. Like what little weird fucking patterns you have in your head. What are you escaping when you're trying to like load up on heroin. It's crazy, but it's illegal. This is the nuttiest part of it. And this is the beautiful thing about what Rick Perry is trying to do and explaining it very eloquently that it was all established in the 1970s to combat Richard Nixon's political opponents. So the anti-war movement, the civil rights movement, they made all those drugs illegal,

the sweeping act of 1970, the psychedelic drug act, where they were just trying to demonize these things that these people were using. That was like, you know, the flower child movement, the hippies, the anti-war people. They're like, we need to figure out a way to lock these motherfuckers up. Well, they did a really interesting study on, or there was a guy, a journalist, I came over who was talking about, they drew this comparison when the 60s music movement happened with Hendrix and all those guys. When they were taking psychedelics, incredible things were going on musically. Oh, yeah. Once they turned to cocaine and heroin, music fucking died. Hair bands.

Yeah. Well, I was bringing it back to cars, because I'm a car freak. The cars of the 1960s were the greatest fucking cars in America as ever created in terms of the way they looked, the iconic image of those things, and it all died around 70, 71. Everything after 71's a piece of shit. Why? Except a few Corvettes look cool. But because they needed to become,

first of all, then there's the gas crisis, so cars started becoming less powerful and more economical, and then they started making them out of plastic, and they just looked like shit, and then they weren't doing the drugs anymore, so the design sucked. If you go back to design, like one of the classics that I always put out like let's look at a 1969 Boss Mustang so this is acid marijuana

whatever these people that were designing these cars were like freaks they were weirdos yeah you know artists and they designed these things, it just, to this day you look at them and you go, fuck, fuck, look at that, look at that. That's the reason why John Wick killed everybody. That's it is, they stole his car. They killed his puppy and they stole that car. Motherfuckers.

And John Wick killed everybody. That is a fucking work of art, man. Whiplash, fucking engine cross. God. That is a fucking work of art. Whiplash, fucking engine closes. God damn that's a work of art. That's one of the most beautiful things human beings, fuck the Sistine Chapel, that's one of the most beautiful things human beings have ever created. Look at that. Is that a catalytic converter or a carburetor? Shut your mouth about that. This is Texas. Pull all that stuff off and fucking roll roll coal Like a block a gallon

Yeah, my my Raptor my Hennessy Raptor that has a thousand horsepower. I get nine miles to the gallon So my dick it's look at that thing. That is a different one. That's a That's a oh, yeah, that's a classic restoration. That's nothing classic recreations does a Resto mod version of it, but that's the like the right from the factory version. Both of them are gorgeous come in electric They do make them an electric honestly. Yeah, there's a company that takes old cars and that's Well, a lot of people have a problem with it. They're ever Roddy does it I like Martin's those Pull up ever Roddy ever Roddy is a company that takes old Porsches and they do old Mustangs and they convert them and make them

fully electric Wow. Yeah, and they look really cool, but you're missing the whole point Of course, the whole point is it's gonna feel the road. It's a work of art. It's a mechanical experience I drove a 1985 Porsche Targa. Oh, dude. Oh my it's a work of art, it's a mechanical experience. I drove a 1985 Porsche Targa. Dude, it's a stick shift. What a beautiful car. You feel everything, but god damn it's beautiful. I mean you're just zipping it. It's so light too.

It's so engaging. That's a great car. Oh my god, those are the best. That's the only time I've driven a car and I went, I get it. I've never been into cars. I drive a Tesla 3 with white interior, white exterior. I wanted to be as gay as I could. It's still an incredible car.

So they do a bunch of different stuff. So let's go to the Porsche 911, 964 signature. So look at that. So they take this 964 Porsche, which is one of the most beautiful years, and they turned it into this insane electric beast. Damn. Yeah. Incredible car, man. I mean, sub zero, zero to 60 sub four seconds. I drove the new electric Porsche, which is the look at the range up to 200 miles. Shut the fuck up The range is nonsense

Miles is driving really slow hundred miles, but I bet that thing is super sick to drive and goddamn It looks beautiful, but wouldn't it be better if it went? When you started up? I think You want to hear that one of the gas yeah, you want to feel the engagement of the clutch. You want to pull the gear lever down in a second. You want to let off the clutch and hit the gas. You want to feel it. I like what they're doing.

I think it's cool. Whatever. I'd rather, I'd take that car and I'd gut it. I'd gut it and put a fucking real engine in it. It looks beautiful, but. What can I pick one of those up for like a regular regular car, a Porsche, a 964 like that? There's a bunch of different companies. There's a company called.

No, no, no, not electric. No, no, no, no, no, a regular one. There's a company that specializes in air-cooled Porsches. Go to Sloan. What's air-cooled? Sloan, that's those, the old ones. The ones that you drove, that 1980s one, that's an air-cooled one. The old ones drove the one that 1980s one that's a that's an air-cooled one

I love that car the old ones are the ones that yeah, that's it. So this place specializes in Porsches, but particularly air-cooled Porsches. They've got a lot of air cool. Go click on like available cars So inventory go to inventory. That's nice, too So a lot of these are the expensive, more modern ones like the 1963. Click on that one, 84 911 Carrera. Look at that. 26,000 original miles.

That's a gorgeous car. Oh dude, that's a joy to drive. Yeah, it's beautiful. That car is a joy to drive. 100%. How much is that? Oh, it's got to be very expensive. That's a beautiful car.

With such low miles, that thing's probably meticulously maintained. It looks incredible So you're not picking that thing up. No, no, no, that's an expensive car. And by the way, not very fast. It's not fast That's not you're missing the point. It's the handling. It's the it's the feel it's the experience of driving It is so analog. It probably doesn't even have power steering It's basically brand new it's basically brand new whoever so you think that amazing they probably sell out for couple hundred thousand dollars a hundred yeah at least okay I would imagine I mean it says contact us for pricing but if you want to get one like

that a stellar model with 20s look if you get a 9-11 from 1970, like a 9-11 RS, a good example is a million dollars. What? Yes. Oh, geez. Google 9-11, 1971 9-11 RS Immaculate for sale. I guarantee you they're over a million dollars. Yeah. Because they're just very few. Your model 3 will blow that thing away in every way, shape, or form. Handling, speed, especially if you have the model 3 performance. That's why I like my car so much. I like the Tesla. They just go. So easy. They make every other car seem stupid. I know. But it's a different experience than driving that thing that thing is an amusement park ride Yeah, like that thing is a it's like grinding your own coffee. It's something about it. Yes a manual the sensation Yeah, yeah, yeah lighting your own fire on the grill and cooking over hardwood coal

I think there's a huge value to that like cooking. Oh, yeah, like the the fact that it takes You take time Yeah. To get good at something like cooking the perfect beef stew or whatever the fuck it is. Oh yeah, especially if you're cooking over fire. It brings you this caveman DNA section of your brain. The smell of wood. Oh yeah.

Yeah. Also it makes the food taste better. Convenience and abundance comes with a price like everything else. Sometimes that's a lack of connection. Sometimes just the actual process of doing shit, like the actual process of preparation and all that is a form of flow that you get into. There's a great book called Beyond Boredom and Anxiety by Schickson Mija, I don't know what the fuck his name is, he's like this Hungarian science. He compares the flow state the rock climbers surgeons

painters and conductors get into And and it's all very similar because it takes incredible concentration when you're rock climbing I bet the rock climbers look at the painters like bitch. You are not the same flow state True motherfucker. It's very nice. No, they're not because it's life and death, right? That shows the average sales like it's a stock almost So five have been sold for an average of seven hundred eight thousand. Oh my isn't that crazy? My lord, that's crazy. That's that's just one five million two point five million for that one click on that Can you click on that so I gotta see a couple more tickets?

Stand up let me see what it looks like there it is. Let's see if we could find it God by the way, it's a lot of that is like a dick measuring contest, like that I have a pristine model. This is like a Jerry Seinfeld type vehicle. Like he would own one of those. I have a 1993 RS America. It's a 964. I know you've seen it that little red Porsche that I have Yeah, no manuals or no power steering. No air conditioning. No nothing. It doesn't have a radio It doesn't have jack shit. It's so raw. It's so raw. It's it's it's raw and rowdy It sounds loud you feel everything every time I drive it. I'm like, why don't I drive it?

Do you know I used to have that that fucking Bronco yeah 1971 with a 350 Windsor whatever the fuck was carburetor I remember he came to my house and that dude I would get dizzy on the highway from the gas fucking the gas no top dude I thought I was gonna pass out I went to the mechanic I think I'm gonna pass out I was all panicked you know yes that's the way it is I go what do you mean it's the way it is dying slowly but you're living on that thing for 500 bucks or so I was all panicked, you know, he goes, ah, is this the way it is? I go, what do you mean it's the way it is? You're dying slowly, but you're living more. I fucking sold that thing for 500 bucks or something. I don't know.

I was like, get away from me. I was so happy when you bought it. I like when you get irrational. I want you to be more irrational. I think it's good for you. I was that way with dogs too. Oh, is it a fighting dog? Really?

Fresh out of the box? Let's do it. Yeah, let's get it. I think that a little bit of irrationality for comedians is very good for you. 100%. I think it's good. I think it's pretty irrational. You got to have a little bit of irrationality for comedians is very good for you hundred percent I think it's pretty irrational you gotta have a little bit of fun in you an auction coming up in a month Oh, yeah, these are for sale Coming from Paris all that alfa-romeo that little thing like there that little alfa-romeo I guarantee you that's fun as fuck to drive to

Look shitty, but I'm telling you you feel every fucking bump on the road through your ass Yeah, I never got into those three five six Porsches. Yeah, I think those look like a fucking VW bug They look stupid. Yeah, but that right to the right of it the 92 RS cool. That's what I have Yeah, I have one of those with a duck tail. I ever read one with a duck tail. I love it Yeah, I love it. You know what it tail. I ever read one with a duck tail. I love it. I love it. Well, you know what it is? They have a personality. There's something about getting into my... I had a girlfriend who had a vintage Mercedes and I swear to God, I got attached to that

car. It felt like an experience. I would get in there and I had a personality almost. It was like... 100%. You know what I mean? 100%. Because somebody had made that. Somebody had taken the time time a lot of that shit's made by hand I think well they're definitely put together by hand yeah yeah I mean especially back then but considered by craftsmen like when something's really considered by

craftsmen and and you can't you cannot replace the feel of like something that's been crafted I look on that red one that 1970 look at that son. Oh my goodness. That's a beautiful piece of machinery Man that is such a gorgeous car. Yeah, that is fucking beautiful European brother, and it's so light Those cars are so light dude. That's like a two thousand pound car really yeah, they're so little yeah when you're near them They're so little you know how much my three ways almost 6,000 pounds Oh, they're very crazy. They fuck up those borders. Those are tank. What are they called the the rails guardrails? They go right through those things because they're too heavy My car for meant for regular-sized car. I didn't know that guy gorgeous is look at that damn thing man. Oh god. It's so beautiful

Fire extinguisher guys that guy maintained that motherfucker. Yeah, that guy knows how to drive. I bet look at that steering wheel 2003 I picture myself 2003 restoration in a tweed coat. Oh, it's so gorgeous. I bet that's 150,000 How much is that? It's gonna be auctioned and They're not giving them away. Estimated for 180 euros. 180 euros, so more. So 180 euros is like 200 and something thousand, which makes sense. It's fucking beautiful, man, and they don't make them anymore.

You know, if you want one of those, and when you drive it, I guarantee you'll have a fucking smile. You'll have a fucking smile on your face. It only has 180 horsepower. Jesus. Yeah, they're not fast. They're not fast. Even mine has 300. Mine only has 300 horsepower. Really. Yeah, they're not fast. No, even mine is 300. Mine only has three hours and I had to juiced up a little bit to get to 300. I was gonna say, it's not worms. It's not fast. Not fast. No, but it doesn't matter. It's

just fun. It's engaging. You used to like big trucks too though. You like the Denali's and stuff. Oh, yeah. Well, I have the Raptor. It was a Hennessy Raptor. I still have you know why I like to see what's going on over there. I don't want to be at the same height as the cars. It's vulnerable. When someone slams on the brake you can't see what's going on. Well up here you can see someone doing something stupid like five cars ahead. You're like, oh Jesus. It's safer. Way safer. To be in a lifted truck is safer. You see things more. 100%. That is very important. Yeah. It's very important. Like the elevated viewpoint for a safety perspective is important.

Right. Yeah. And you get used to that. You like it a lot. That's the kind of car you take out on a countryside. Oh yeah, man. And you wear a scarf. You wear gloves.

Gloves, scarf, and you wear the glasses. I want to be European so badly sometimes. And your lady's doing this. You're going too fast. I want to be European so badly sometimes Your in your ladies doing this you're going too fast. Yeah, you don't go with a girl go by yourself by yourself Yeah, you don't go really you don't want to hear that Shut the fuck up about it bro. Shut the fuck That's different. That's hot. Well, that's that's preposterous. That's a four million dollar car. That's a Pagani Well, I mean even I had to say that I say that it looks like a fuck it looks like an Iraq

That's a monstrous vehicle. Yeah, but it's also ridiculous. I Mean does it come with a man's power? Here's the thing. That's all great That's all fast, but that can't fuck with a new Corvette. That's a track car for sure It's a track car for sure. It's a track car but it's not as good as a track car as a new Corvette. The new Corvette ZR1 is one of the greatest cars the world has ever built. It's over a thousand horsepower. A thousand! Over a thousand horsepower for the new Corvette ZR1. It does 0-60 in under three seconds. It's gonna break all the records. It's probably gonna break Nurburgring records. It hasn't even been released yet. It's a fucking amazing car. It's the greatest American car ever by far.

In what? Because it's just reliability, everything or what? Everything. They're reliable. They're fucking incredible looking. They look like an exotic car. This is the new ZR1. Does it have volume? Can we hear what it sounds like? Hi, I'm Brad Frans from Chevrolet Marketing. Brad, you fucking knocked it out of the park, Brad. This is an amazing vehicle. This vehicle's faster, handles better than that stupid fucking $5 billion car. That thing's the shit. That's America. Fuck yeah. In a car.

Yeah. I mean, it's so stupid. How could you go to a dealership? Look at that carbon fiber wheels How can you go to a dealership and buy a one thousand one hundred horsepower car insane? Look at with a house. I'm the back of it. It shouldn't be but it is and that's why it's America motherfucker and is that thing is that drag to rotate is that That was on there necessary. Yes. Yes, cuz you want to look at an asshole. That looks great Yeah, you can? Yes, because you want to look like an asshole. That looks great. Yeah, you can get it without the fin. Because you want to look like an asshole. That looks good. It's downforce. It gives you more downforce. So it'll actually

slow your top end speed so the high end speed will be like 205 miles an hour instead of 215 or whatever the fuck it is. I like that. That's a good look right there. It's a gorgeous car. I don't like that stupid fin. That is a fucking beautiful machine. Does the fin come up or something or well? No, it's just down for it's adjustable But it's downforce for the track. Yeah, I like that is an amazing car for the track That's a good looking car and they make them in a convertible check of the convertible They're not they probably they won't break your bank probably right or they very it's about 200 grand Oh before you know markup and all that other jazz. I think it's one seven two point three seconds zero to sixty Nine second quarter mile right from the factory

Motherfucker, I'm not that's what you need. That's what you need calendar It's very special kicks it and you start selling out giant theaters Let's go baby! Let's get a little woovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv I have two families, you know, I know they come out here. They'll they'll realize like oh my god What the fuck what we doing? What we do? Why what one of my friends came here? Like me traveling from Texas is way easier than traveling from fucking Los Angeles Ron White told me that in 2018 when I started thinking about Austin she's he moved here before any of us Ron White was the original He was the original the the Texas setup because he was he's from Texas. He was I fucking love Austin foods great people are nice It's in the middle of the country. You could travel anywhere. I was like, wow, can I live in Texas? I started thinking about it

And then when Kovac hit Ron being here was one of the things that moved me here really? Yeah, I love Ron. At least I can hang out with Ron. He's One of the greatest comics period? I watched that motherfucker and I'm like, and he's still doing it at his age. How old is he? He's a thousand years old. And he's better now than ever. Better than ever. I love that.

And he's at the club every night. He's there all the time. All the time. Killing it. Killing it. Incredible. And just the best fucking human being. He's just the best guy. So when he was coming here in 2018, I was like, maybe I could go. I don't know. I can't live in Texas. Cause I've always been trying to escape LA forever. But then it's like, my business was there and the comedians were there and the store was there. And there was like so many things that it took something like COVID to make us all like, just take this crazy chance and move to Texas. Yeah. Well, these fires, I feel like these fires

are kind of almost like very much like the same thing. Very much like the same thing. It's the same kind of experience. You're gonna have one too. Yeah, let's go. Right. Come on, man. Smoking some guys like men. I like this new thing. Having a guy like Ron here though was like, okay, well, if, at least I'll have Ron as a friend. At least he'll be, and then Tony moved here. I was like, oh shit, Tony's here. And then I remember one time I talked to Segura and I was like, dude it's fucking awesome.

I love it here, he's like, fuck it I'm moving. And he was here quick. How do I open this? Yeah, oh you just, here you can use this one. Cause you're just stupid to figure it out. I'm an idiot and I'm like, I can't do it. I can't figure shit out. How come you can't figure things out cuz I'm bad with that stuff Okay, that's why my wife was like get out of here. You can't do it. I'll take care of it

I'm like raise my kids save them tell my story. I'll be in Austin. Sorry about the fires Tell them to watch your special Tell all the kids in school to watch daddy special that Watch Daddy Special. It's going to be good. False gods. I'm excited. Are you going to put it on YouTube? Yeah, I think so. YouTube's the move because you get the most views for sure. Like look at Shane. I'm proud of him too. That's awesome. You get a great set, you put a great set, and the club is the best place to film. The audiences are so hyped. Well that's's what I thought I was like I'm gonna I would rather like shoot here. No and

Because you did that club, right man. You did that club, right? This makes such a difference Well a Lot of it's cuz we're on if it wasn't for Ron and then one time when we did shows We're doing shows at the Vulcan and Ron hadn't gone on stage Like eight months and he got off stage. He grabbed me by the shoulders. It was whatever the fuck we got to do We're gonna keep doing this. He goes you got to open up that club. I was like, okay Cuz I was like I gotta open up a club You know, it's one of those things like I'm so fucking busy. How am I gonna do this?

how am I gonna handle this how am I gonna to do this? It's a lot, right? How am I going to handle this? How am I going to handle the stress of the business and a hundred employees? It turns out you don't have to. Just get really good people to run it for you. That's it. I get a kick out of you because I don't know. You still have like for this podcast, what, three people that work for you? I mean four, but you know, more than that.

Well, yeah, we have Brandon, our video editor. We have Matt who video editor. We have Matt who books everything young Jamie and wah. Yeah, that's it My buddy is they're gonna start podcasting. Well, we gotta get a production team gotta get this other I'm like, hey, well, you're gonna need a production team If you don't have Jamie the thing is Jamie's a wizard and he's also a little bit on the spectrum and Jamie can The good side you're on the good side. You're on the spectrum. And Jamie can... What side? The good side. You're on the good side.

You're on the fun side. You're like totally socially aware. You're fun to hang with. He's like a stoic. But Jamie's just on the ball and like his ability to pull things up while we're talking about him, while he's managing the podcast, like no one could do that. You need like a team of people to do what he does. But then you've got to deal with a team of people that are just like, one of the coolest

things about Jamie is how like, first of all, we're friends, and he's the easiest to hang out with, like Jamie's so easy to hang out with. So doesn't matter who's in this room, there's no weirdness, or like, oh, this guy is complaining about that guy. He's not trying to be, he's not trying to be anything he's not. So what happens in that position is that that's kind of a big job. And it'd be very easy to go, I'm part of this podcast. I'm a huge part of it.

He doesn't get his ego. Well, that's happened to a few friends of mine where they had to get rid of their producer because the producer was like, you know, we did this and he's like, hey, you pointed cameras at a comedian that was already famous. Like cut the shit. Like, this is fucking stupid. We all have our role. We all do our thing.

Yeah, but it's like what happens with a lot of these people is they develop these podcasts and then they have, I go to my friend's podcast and he has 10 people working for him. And I was like, what are all these people doing? What do they do? What are they doing? Like, this is crazy. Like, why do you have all these people? And then they have interns.

I go, you have people working. You're making millions of dollars and they're working for free? I don't agree with interns. I would never have an intern. If I had an intern- Pay that person. I would pay them. 100%.

I don't even know if you're allowed to pay certain interns because they're supposed to get like... I would break the law. I would break the law and pay them. Just give me a paid intern, it's fine. Can you have a paid intern in a college? I think what happens is it builds resentment if you're not. 100%. You got to be careful with all that.

Well, that's a problem with rich people when they have assistants, too. Like Al Madrigal had an assistant once who was like, yeah, I got to get an assistant. I go, no, you don't. I go, listen to me. Do less shit. Just do less shit.

If you need an assistant, you don't. Do less things. You don't want the like like I remember when David spayed on an assistant The dude tried to duct tape him and the guy he tasered him. He was gonna kill him. Yeah guy went to jail Henry the ace said something like that. Also every time I promote somebody I create Every time I promote somebody I create eight enemies and one in great something like that. I think that was that the quote. It's great Yeah, but didn't kill a bunch of his wives. He was terrible That's the great story is just a piece of shit, you know what he did right? He said the Catholic Church he wanted a son and his wife was barren and he he he wanted an heir and the Catholic Church would not

Codify his divorce. So he was like, okay, I'm gonna start the Anglican Church. Fuck off. I'm gonna start my own church and it's gonna be okay with divorce. So he created the Anglican Church. And the great story of A Man for All Seasons, Thomas Sir Thomas More, was Thomas More would not join the Anglican Church and they killed him for it. And he said, I am more than my appetites. I am more than my body. I am my principles and my principles are higher and I'm gonna stick to the Catholic Church kind of like you know I wish I was no shit right like yo to just join the other church. Well, we all would right? Get a lot of shit done. Okay. All right I was an acting class as you remember remember that and one of they kind of a famous actor

He did the scene. This is so great. He did the man for all seasons. And as he, you know, so you do a scene, and you know, a lot of working actors in the class, this is Los Angeles, and we all sit back, and now the great teacher will now break it apart. And he, the actor, began to weep. And they said, why are you crying? He says, because I'm not this man. I would have joined the Anglican church. And it bothers me that I'm not the kind of principled man that would stick to.

At least he knows. That was pretty cool. At least he's not that guy, I wish I was a Navy SEAL, I'd kill everybody. He was one of my favorite actors too. And I was like, there you go. At least you know your fucking limitations. Never say what you would do in an emergency,

because you don't know. Also probably why he's a great actor because he was aware of everything. I think so. Of like the differences between him and those other people, you know. Well, you better know you're vulnerable. Like you walk around like a tough guy. Right. The real tough guys are the guys that have done a lot of shit or who've seen a lot of combat or at least been involved and like Evan Hayford for example has probably done a lot more than he never talks about any of it. You'll never hear him say anything, but and for that matter, Andy Stump same way. They don't really tell you anything, but they're very aware that first of all, it's very easy

to be killed. Very easy. I don't care how strong you are, what you bench. A tiny child can kill you with a gun. Right away. So you get a real sense. Part of what's really good about just doing combat sports or doing any kind of, like even a rough sport, contact sport, is that you come into

contact with objective reality. It's very hard to start living this fake existence. And part of the problem, I think, with our society is a lot of people controlling the narrative don't really pay a price for being wrong because they live a life and they live a job where they're working with their mouth, they're working with only their brain. And I think you get a lot from actually trying to grow your own food or doing whatever it is. You've got to kind of come in, you own a farm and you realize that life eats life and things, everything, nature, mother nature is a motherfucker and wants to kill everything you try to grow. It gives you a very different perspective

on reality and what the world is about. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Well, that's a giant problem with urban environments. That's why urban environments all get to these sort of esoteric philosophical ideas about what society would be like, because they're completely separated from the circle of life. They're buying all their food from either a restaurant or a grocery store. They're not farming, they're not doing anything, they're enjoying meat without any death.

Right. You ever see Steven Pinker's book, The Blank Slate? Yes. You know, when the anthropologists came by their name, I think they were at Harvard, and they came back from studying the Yanomami Indians or whatever in the Amazon basin. They were like, hey guys, I know you think just white Anglo-Saxons are aggressive and we have a culture that rewards male aggression. Those people have never been in contact with anybody white or Western, and the guys that

get laid the most are the guys that kill the most people in combat and have their hair on their daggers. So they have their version of a fucking all-star quarterback too and he gets all the pussy. And they were like, what the fuck? And they literally attacked their, their reputations and everything. They, they drove them out of academia. It's crazy. It's like, it should be obvious. It should be obvious. Like that this is, there's like been a series of events that human beings have gone through that have developed this certain people like we understand it's an understanding that certain people are better at survival certain people are better at being the leader certain people are better at wars. Yeah and life takes a certain amount of aggression and competitive spirit.

Oh yeah. Or you're gonna fucking get eaten. Oh yeah. Yeah, you're gonna get fucked is really what happens. For sure. That's right. For sure. So don't, don't, it's great, I love that we're all, it's all utopian until your kids don't have enough to eat, and then I'm gonna kill, that's what happens. People are really kumbaya until your kids have to struggle for resources and then they become genocidal.

Yeah. Jared Diamond, who wrote Guns, Germs and Steel did the study with the fucking people up in the Guinea Highlands. The minute they started running out of resources, they would start coming up with stories about the other tribe over there that were basically, yeah, they eat their own kids, yeah, they're fucking really evil. Just to whip up, just to justify what they're about to do to that other tribe because they got their own kids, yeah, they're fucking really evil. Just to whip up, just to justify what they're about to do to that other tribe, because they got their stuff. Human beings. I mean, there's beautiful things in urban environments and society where you don't have

to struggle, you don't have to do that. So you can get much more involved in art. You get more co-operative. Finance. There's a lot of things that people can achieve when they have that sort of shelter, but there's a balance to be achieved in our society, the influence. And the problem is the influence of these people that are detached in urban environments is so significant because there's so many of them. There's so many more people that are detached than are connected that we have this very weird appreciation and understanding of resources and of just

how hard it is to just survive without modern conveniences. I think what changed me a lot was when I was younger, I was accidentally around some pretty rough people, some criminals, people that were bad, violent, you know. And I think I remember going, I remember, it's very scary when you're around people that are, you know, like that. And I never forgot it because I was pretty naive as most of us are coming up because I had been around a good family and stuff like that. And I saw how ugly and dangerous some men can be, especially when nobody's looking.

And I never forgot the idea that- Especially in the areas that you grew up in. That's right. Well, I lived in, remember also I was in the war in Lebanon. Right. So I think- How old were you? I was, I left in, I was,

I left Lebanon when I was, I left in... I left Lebanon when I was... I went to... I was 11 years old. Yeah. So just imagine experiencing that as a 10-year-old boy. Yeah. And then I went back. I went back when I was, I think, 15, 16, and I didn't recognize anything from my childhood.

So I was in Lebanon for five years. And so I had wonderful memories. And then the war broke out and we were stuck. My father couldn't get back in because he could he was and then we got evacuated. But I was living in the in the holiday and for six months and we had to sleep on the floor. And then finally we had to we had to go down into the fucking underground parking lot because they were bombing. And you would wake up and you would hear machine guns and stuff. So you felt very out of sorts and very, very, it was very scary. You know, you're a kid, you know, and I remember seeing on a balcony, I remember seeing planes bomb a gas station.

I never forgot it. I never forgot seeing the planes come in and the missiles dropped and just, you know, and the sound dude, the sound. And I don't know if anybody's been in war knows this, but I was on the beach. I was on Coral Beach. And it probably was, it was in the 80s. I was a young, young, I was 14, 15, 16, whatever I was. They shot a rocket over our head. Okay. And I think it was a test fire. Dude, when I tell you that the sound was so loud that we all fell on the ground, I fell down on the sand, the sound was so disoriented that everybody went down on their hands and knees. That's how loud it was over your head. And I think that when you are in that kind of proximity to violence like that, and then later on when I was older, I was around some people who were pretty rough,

you know. And for me, I knew that if the grid broke down, that those people were going to take over and there was going to be no fucking mercy. And I've never forgot that. And so you could see with COVID, the minute that law enforcement had to restrict their resources, you saw what happened, looting, you saw crime, you saw homelessness. And the fabric of a society can break down so fucking quickly. People don't realize it. Until you've been in countries where it's happened, and until you've been around men who negotiate the world in a violent way,

and maybe in ways that are a little bit outside the law, you don't know what you're doing, man. You've got no idea. So all those people and I love when the left starts talking about, you know, violent revolution and you're in college kid, you have no fucking idea. You don't know. First of all, don't wake up that and don't wake up the conservative. Don't do that. Let's not even talk about it because I know a lot of guys that shoot real straight, you know, and often and yeah and often and they're very comfortable They're really good at it and they're comfortable in those violence bases kind of ready there. They're yeah. Yeah. Yeah, let's not let's not Yeah, let's not let those dogs slip. Have you seen John McPhee? Yeah, I have the mayor of Baghdad be a good

Like yeah, that is a guy. Yeah, just you know. His body just comes from enforcement. His traps, he just looks like a giant block. Yeah. He's a born enforcer. He's not going to win a Nobel Prize for peace. No. You ever hear how Tim Kennedy talked about him? Like, you put him in a glass case and break in case of war. Yeah. Yeah. Let's keep those guys on a, let's keep them over here. Thank God that guy found Jiu-Jitsu too. Give him an outlet. Yes. And please understand the base of our republic also is that we have civilian control of a military. And that was a huge... In the election between, I think, Madison and Jefferson, the idea was... Was it Madison or was it Adams? I can't remember. But in the election was,

should we have a standing army? Because traditionally, in a republic, if you had a standing army, a very charismatic general like Napoleon would take over the army and take over the country. So that was a huge thing. James Madison was a genius at figuring out how to limit that. And he said, checks and balances, but you have to have civilian government in control of the military, because military people arrive at military solutions. Yeah Fucking really important man. Really important. You don't want to fuck don't let guys like John McPhee You need him in war, but God bless but let's just you know Well, you've had Eric Prince on your podcast very smart guy. Have you had him on? No, I haven't man I really enjoyed having was another guy who's talking about like what to do with Africa and I was like Jesus

Well, yeah. He used the word viceroy and he did it on purpose. But Eric comes from a position of how to solve problems. When he was talking about Gaza, he said, we have the ability to frack. What that means is we can drill sideways. He said, you could have filled those tunnels with seawater instead of bombing the shit out of 70% of it and killing all those people. You could have flooded those fuckers out.

Because you drill, and I don't know if this is true, I don't know anything about fracking, but he does. And he said, you could have drilled fucking this way, take the Mediterranean, fill all those tunnels with seawater, and they would have had to come up and you would have been just fine and just position people when they come out of the water. Why didn't they choose that? A good question.

The same reason that in Afghanistan they had an oil reserve there in Afghanistan that was well capped by the Soviets. Well capped by the Soviets, well capped. We could have taken that cap off and that oil, they had enough oil to not only fuel the entire country, but the whole war effort right there for about nine cents a gallon. But instead we would get our oil from Saudi Arabia, et cetera, and have to ship it through Pakistan with all the roadblocks. It was about 900 bucks a gallon or some crazy shit. He was on my thing talking about it.

This video says he presented a plan to do it. It says blocked by the Pentagon. Let's hear this. Put your hat on. Eric's a smart dude. Provided the Israelis a fully funded donated ability to flood Gaza with water, with seawater, to flood the 300 miles of tunnels blocked by the Pentagon. Our stuff isn't working that well in Ukraine.

The Navy has been ineffective in Yemen. The U.S. has given very bad advice, very mixed advice in Gaza, preventing the Israelis from finishing it or even preventing from ending that war in a clever way. Yeah, he's very smart. And Eric is a problem solver. You can say whatever you want about him, but I really enjoy, he's a very smart guy. And I know people that work with him and for him.

Well, if the shit goes down, you need people like that. You need people that know how to solve problems. Yeah, but also, you know. You can't have some overweight lesbian that says that if you're trapped in the building You already made a mistake You already fucked up. You need me to carry you. Is that really what she said? Want to hear it? Yeah, I do let me hear it Jimmy You could probably find it right just so you can outrage me and give me more energy. I certainly have it in here. I

Know I can find it if you just give me a moment. It's just it's so ridiculous. You hear saying like what are you even saying? Here it is. I found it. It's not AI right? No, no, no, no. Here Jamie. This AI shit's getting crazy. I had to call you and ask you. I called you, I was like, is this AI or not? It's really hard to tell. Headphones on again because you're going to have to hear it because it's so crazy. It's so ridiculous.

House your emergency, whether it's a medical call or a fire call that looks like you. It gives that person a little bit more ease knowing that somebody might understand their situation better. Is she strong enough to do this or you couldn't carry my husband out of a fire? Which my response is he got himself in the wrong place if I have to carry him out of a fire. Oh, wow. Oh, that's helpful.

That is such a crazy way to look at things The correct answer is no I cannot but I can do other things Right. Yeah, and we are gonna need people that can carry people out of buildings because that is a part of the job Yeah, it's not he got himself only if you want to save lives. Yeah, but again, this is Justice to save a little justice ideology over This is social justice, ideology over effectiveness, ideology over utility. One of the things we saw during the 2024 election is massive chunks of California turn red that had never been read before. And I suspect that that trend will continue and be even further and flip the top.

There's a limit to what you can do. People, you know, they're not stupid Americans. They reached a boring point Yeah, I think we're gonna get to a point where they wake up and you're gonna have to have someone come in and clean up the mess I think the greatest someone's gonna have to be like socially liberal but fiscally conservative and pragmatic and realistic, but they're gonna have to like Be a person like you or I who like like supports gay rights, supports women's rights, supports equal rights, like of course. But also, the thing is don't hire people

that aren't qualified for a job because you don't wanna hire white people. That's crazy. Hire everybody that's qualified and then make everybody else more qualified. Go to the- Make everybody rise to the same level. Yes. That's why sports are great. Right. Figure out a way to fix all your fucking

urban problems. If you have 24 billion dollars every year just for homelessness, imagine what that could have been done to clean up communities. Exactly. Because you haven't done a goddamn thing about homelessness and all those people should be held accountable. Well that's because they again they're framing the problem wrong. If you talk to those people, you talk to the people in charge of homelessness, a lot of time, I'm not saying a lot of them are, look, a lot of them are good people and a lot of them are smart and they know a lot more about it than I do. So I don't like being the guy who's talking about like, but I'm just saying I like to

be fair. I want to be fair. But I think when you're framing it just as a housing problem, it's a fucking lie. It's a bunch of people profiting. I mean, Coleon Noir, when he was was on the podcast explained that to me for the first time He said when he was in San Francisco, he said what is going on? Do they just need more money is like no, you don't understand. It's the opposite It's like there's a business now in keeping homelessness there

Yes, because there's people that are making a quarter quarter million dollars a year and they're they're just working on the homeless problem And they're failing we got 31,000 new homeless people this year. It's just failure. And you know, California was always, including under Democratic governors, California was always known as a place that was run very, very well with really responsible civic employees for a long time under Reardon and that and stuff. And then it just went off the d***. Yeah. Well, it's collapsing under the weight of its own bullshit. Oh, did I tell you, so I was with Arnold Schwarzenegger and I asked him what was it like to be governor? And one of the things I got was that how little power he was, he was not able to get a lot

of things done, but I'll give you a classic example. He said, and I'm sorry if I'm paraphrasing, but he said something, he said there was a water issue and he said these farmers over here are not using all that water. So here's ready. Here's what you do. Just take the water they're not using and give it to this, this part of the state over here. It's not big deal.

We'll just pipe it over here. And his senators said, Mr. Governor, I can't do that. He said, why? He goes, because now you're asking me to go and ask my constituents to give up some of their water. They're going to use that against me in my next election. Right. So he goes, so Schwarzenegger goes, so then what the fuck are we going to do? And he goes, here's what you're going to do. You're going to make a speech and you're going to say exactly

what you just said to us. And we're going to say yes, but then we're not gonna really let it happen and he goes that's how this works he goes how you're learning baby that's fucking California state well that is where Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy come in maybe Department of Government Efficiency maybe for sure maybe I don't know what they're gonna be able to get done let me give you an example so Pete Hegseth seems like a great guy. I'm a fan. I don't know much about him, but I like that kind of seems like kind of guy I'd like to hang out and have a beer with. Sure. He's very smart. Princeton, I think Harvard, like Bronze Star,

row four books. Awesome. I'm sure he'll be a very effective secretary of defense. However, that job, this DOD, I think has a million point one employees and a budget of $750 billion, maybe $850 billion. Now, just that is a massive, massive company essentially. And that requires management on a different level. That skill set is very specific and very, very difficult and very strange. It doesn't mean that because you are a great soldier, you can necessarily do that. And I'm saying, I'm just using it as an example. So we have to get down to brass tacks and take politics out of this and get real fucking practical with all this stuff. I think with Elon Musk and with Vivek Ramaswamy, the US government is a very complicated organism

and massive and does a lot of shit none of us even know about. I always use this as an example. Who the fuck keeps geese out of the airfields? The Department of Agriculture. Who keeps falcons on hand at most airports? Peregrine falcons. You know who does? The Department of Agriculture.

You know why? Because they're territorial birds. They keep all the other birds out of the airfield. You know how to do that? Because I don't. Who gets sheep to graze at a higher altitude because of global warming and they don't want to graze when it's really hot? I don't know, but we have to do that if you want mutton and fucking wool. And there are signs that have to figure that out. They're not political. There's a thousand things. Who manages all that nuclear waste in the ground and makes sure it doesn't get into the Columbia River and the waterways? Who manages our electric grid? This is all... Who keeps track, please, I'd like to know, of all these spent uranium rods, sir, that are used in all our diagnostic machines? Because

if you detonate one of those motherfuckers over the Super Bowl, you have to clear out that city for 20 years. The Department of Energy is the answer that's a Buddha judge he's doing a great job transportation it was the guy who stole women's clothes mmm yeah he's the nuclear secretary yeah he was responsible that guy that's a they piece sorry don't miss gender that's the most important thing that fuck don't misgender that thief Jesus Christ, you understand what I'm saying? Yes, so it's beyond complicated. Yeah, unbelievably complicated Yeah And so Michael Lewis wrote a book called the fifth risk about this a good book short very worth reading very fucking worth reading

I walk around talking about being a libertarian as usual I don't really know what government does it I was so kind of humbled by the book because I was like, there's a lot of shit I rely on. The people who are needy, people who are very elderly, people who are disabled, who live in places where they can't get food, our food banks feed those people. Meals on wheels is a really big thing. So there's a lot of shit that the government does and we feed a lot of people that couldn't feed themselves otherwise. So we have to be careful about not throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and once again, take politics out of it. Let's approach everything like it's a problem

and stay agnostic about this shit. And sometimes you might have to be a little left, sometimes you might have to be a little right. Respond to the fucking evidence and be humble about the fact that every time you step into a problem, you may not know anything, and that's what I try to do Brian Callan for governor fucking why didn't you write? I hope you guys wrote that shit down. Where's my camera? You don't need to write it down, bro You just said it from the heart fuck. Yeah, dude. Yeah, bro fucking hilarious

Yeah, why don't you be a governor my buddy my buddy last time I did my podcast my buddy He goes like this he goes from toe-hold he goes Hey, dude, love your Rogan podcast next time you're on the biggest podcast in the world Make sure you talk about the fucking Bible some more. Pete Slauson Hey, man, it's interesting. Pete Slauson Yeah, I'm into that. Pete Slauson I had that Wesley Huff guy on, you know who he is? Yeah, he was really interesting. And one of the most fascinating things that I can't stop thinking about is how the Book of Isaiah

from the Dead Sea Scrolls was verbatim the same as the Book of Isaiah that they found a thousand years later. Wow. A thousand years. And it was exact, word for word. Yeah. Like that's incredible. It's not only incredible, but I always think the fact that the Bible endures is interesting.

Yeah, it's very interesting. It endures. I always go back to like, what were they trying to do? What was it really all about? Where did it start? I have an opinion. Tell me. I think that if you read the Old Testament, which I've done three times, I would argue that so what's the theme of any anybody, any, any author writes a book, the theme is always the author's argument for how one should behave in the world, okay? It's a good way of looking at it. And I think that the central theme of the Bible, of the Old Testament, certainly is don't worship false gods. So what's that mean? If you try to worship false gods, if you put too much emphasis on money, on status, on power, If you put too much emphasis on money, on status, on power, whatever it is, on ideology, you will inevitably turn yourself into a circle.

You'll be a snake eating its own tail. For whatever reason, human beings have a very hard time inventing and creating their own gods, and we always do it. The value of having a transcendent truth of something that you can't measure, it's very interesting that you can't measure it, that you even when, so why do the Muslims, why do the Orthodox Jews not have any kind of like picture of God? It's because you're putting a measurement around God, you're trying to define God and that's not for you to do. And there's something very valuable about not being able to do that, because that transcendent truth is not for you to understand necessarily. It is for you to reach for. It is

for you to be reverent of. It's for you to understand that something is watching you, that you will never get away with anything. And I'll quote Jordan Peterson, I love it, because I've always thought this, and I think you agree with this. You don't get away with anything, and you'll pay in full for everything you've done and haven't done. It's a great way of looking at things. Maybe it's wrong, but it's a good way to at least it's it's keep that in mind. I think you pay psychologically no matter what. 100% when you're not telling the truth. Right and the people that don't, those are the people that are the most delusional and the most disconnected because they put blinders on as to who they are and what they've done.

I mean, you see this when people get caught for horrible crimes and they, you know, they can't like Bernie Madoff type people, like they've deluded themselves to a point where they've, they've, they don't look at their complete sociopaths, which is a weird path that the mind can go into where you're never wrong. And it's always about you. Well, also, like I always, people talk about God, I kind of like replacing it with truth. So just, just try to stay close to the truth, man. And it's hard sometimes the truth is really fucking inconvenient. It's really, it's really, it'll, it might throw your whole life up in the air, you might have to burn off, you know, but, but I don't think I think

it's inevitable. And part of like, if you see great stories, you know, what's the definition of a tragedy? It's the hero or the protagonist doesn't learn from his mistakes and holds on. Moby Dick is a tragedy because Ahab will not give up on this fucking white well that took his leg. And if you read the book, he just gets sucked in. You'd think it'd be some dramatic thing in The book a hab gets caught by the whale and just he just he just dies this quick Is this soundless? He just gets sucked in like wait, dude. He's been in the book the whole time

What the fuck happened, but that's how it happens, bro You got sucked down and the universe doesn't give a fuck you're not important No, you spent all that time trying to get revenge on a a white whale. And that thing was like, he was just trying to run away. You get sucked in and you drown. It's a great way of looking at life. And as I get older, the one thing I would have told myself when I was younger, the one thing I would have told myself is I would have said, hey, listen, listen, fuckface, you better tell the truth all the way all the way across the board all the way across. Let me tell you something Yeah, you in the lesson You're so fucking right

You know what I said to myself, I'm one of God's favorites. These things don't apply to me I'm we're also you were charming, you know, well charming is a problem I got away with a lot. Yeah charm and You're fun to be around people like you you're fun. A lot of Got away with a lot. Yeah. Charm and you're fun to be around. People like you. You're fun. A lot of friends. Yeah, a lot of friends.

Fine. Found my way through. And also we like that you were ridiculous. We like that you're living your life completely chaotic. Reckless. Yeah. But it's also why you're funny. That's the balancing act.

It is, right? As a comic, as a human. Yeah, I didn't want to be too... The people I knew who got real famous actors, they were so buttoned down. They were so fucking afraid of everything and I was like, hey, bro, I think sometimes you got to be willing to throw the whole fucking chessboard in the air. You know, it's like my favorite. You want to be funny. Yeah. Yeah. If you if you become too calculated, man, I just think you out think yourself. You lose the magic.

think you out think yourself you lose the magic. Part of the magic of being a comedian is these sparks of ridiculousness that have to pop into your head. So you have to be able to entertain that part of your mind. I used to think when I was young that I didn't want to meditate because I didn't want to become enlightened because it would fuck up my comedy. It's true. Well I thought that way because I realized that there was a completely different mindset between me as a martial arts competitor and me as a comedian where I didn't need anybody's approval before. Like I liked that they didn't like me. I used to love going to places and fucking up the local hero. I used to enjoy it. Yeah. I used to get a kick out of it all because I didn't have anybody in my corner. I didn't have anybody cheering for me. Nobody came to see me fight. So I was like, I'll go to your

place and fuck you up. I liked it. Yeah, I liked I liked hearing people cheer. There was one, there was a fight that I had when I was 19. I fought in Anaheim at the nationals. And there was this guy was the state champion, I think he was from Illinois. And I hit him with a wheel kick. That was probably the hardest I've ever hit anybody in my life. Well, he went unconscious and he never woke up. They took him to the hospital They took him out on a stretcher. It scared the shit out of me because I remember thinking that Easily could have been me. Yeah, that easily could have been me. But what I do remember was all these people were cheering them Let's go Johnny. Come on, Johnny him up Johnny All these people trying to work

silence Faceplant and then snoring Jesus Christ, and then I remember the satisfaction of that like shut It feels like nothing on your foot. It's cool. It's her. I was limping really days really. Oh, yeah I hit him in the with that with my heel in his cheek Christ on his cheekbone Yeah, I was hurt Yeah, still are but back then when I was 19 I was fast so it happened in a breeze a quick moment And then I remember thinking afterwards or he when is he getting up? He's not getting he didn't get up

And then they carried him away in the is he getting up? He's not getting up. He didn't get up. And then they carried him away in the stretcher, and they took him to the hospital. And I never felt the same way about fighting again after that. Yeah, because that could have been you. Yeah. I also thought about, if that was me,

would I even be the same person again after that? Because I had a friend who fought in this tournament. He fought this guy, Jersey Long, who was this Canadian national champion He got axe kicked in the head hard and he went unconscious and real bad and he was never the same guy again He's timid after that. He never fought. Well, yeah, he was he didn't show up for training a lot He was just well just like seemed depressed that's why I think fighters who can who have longevity are very special because

one of the things you know if you like just box or Taekwondo especially people don't realize that people get would get knocked out all the time in our studio Yeah but also boxing like when you get hit hard and you have trouble chewing for like two weeks or you get hit like Like when I was sparring a lot, I I would get hit man And I would get fucking gun shy and my my trainer Wayne McCulloch would go you're sparring today and it was everything I could do not to turn my car around. It would almost turn me into a liar. I was like I have to I'm in the hospital. My car

just got hit by a truck anything but I would you'd get there and you'd have your fucking your I would wear a bar because I'm a bitch and a mouthpiece and I was still always nervous and the guy was fighting good guys fighting guys like me fucking weekend warriors it doesn't matter person trying to hit you in the face is scary you know what I think you know I think meditation does I think I think the point is and I don't meditate on it is to get out of your own to get out of the way to get out of the way like that's a lot of life yeah you should disappear.

I heard a sports psychologist say that. He teaches baseball players, he would teach them, he would do this mantra, which was one, two, get out of the way. So when you're trying to hit a ball, because it's really precise, and you can't be overthinking, you've got to just be totally reactive, right? Your eye and your hands have to be married.

And motherfuckers are throwing 100 mile an hour balls and shit like that. And you ever done that? You ever stood at a plate and had guys throw 100 miles an hour? I have, I have. It's fucking terrifying. It's fucking.

The idea of hitting that thing. Dude, it's terrifying. And, but I wanted to try it. I wanted to see what it was like. And when your job depends on it, when everything rides on it, you better get out of your own way. And guys get the yips.

That's why guys will go on hitting streaks and then they'll go on long dry spells because they get in their own way. But I think part of like all of that meditation, Jamie, pull up the fucking Indian army. Did you see this? They were hiking No in the Himalayas and they came across a Bodhisattva or one, you know a monk who was meditating in the snow and it was 40 below

This is recently. Yes, sir. You might want to bring this up so I can just you know What a custom I always tell Mike Tyson you don't exist just the task the task exists I love that yeah you don't exist he's become a bit of a monk yeah they found this guy that's my brother's AI yeah that's a that's in a green screen shut up it dude. I bet that dude's boring as fuck to talk to. Look at him sitting there with a dog. There's a guy meditating covered in snow. And it's fucking unbelievable. That might be true, Bubba.

That might be true. He looks legit. Yeah, they find these guys out there. They find these guys. Yeah. I'd like to see him a couple hours like to see there's a guy And he's not moving and the Indian army. Yeah, he's having fun. What's the temperature like dogs having fun, too, though? We don't think that dogs on using that's in Utah. We like that dogs amazing. You think that's in Utah. Come on, man That's real. That's some kind of a lot of drugs that guy is no man. He saw he did the DMT breathing Well, you know those dudes in in you ever read the Shantaram?

You know those guys who take a vow to never sit down? They stand up. Oh god. You ever seen their legs in India? No. Oh bro. Their knees must be destroyed. They're the standing yogis.

How bad are their knees? No, no, they get varicose veins. Their bodies, their feet start to melt. Like they smoke copious amounts of weed. I mean they're always high. Constantly. Yeah. But they take a vow never to ever ever sit They are standing their whole life. So they sleep standing up in slings. Oh, that's

It doesn't what do their legs look like you should then you can you can look that up Just to fuck you up some more give me standing yoga just show me all kind of count with Fucking what is it? How would you describe it as standing yogis? Yeah, they're like the standing the famous standing Fuck you up some more. Standing yogas just show me all sorts of positions for yoga. How would you describe it as? Standing yogis? Yeah, they're like the famous standing yogis, or something they're called. Where from, maybe?

Do you know where? India. India, I think in Calcutta. Ugh. Yeah, sometimes the ferry's only a nickel. You don't have to stand all day, you fucking idiot. Have a seat, smoke a cigar. Exactly, please. Relax a little bit. At the end of the day. They're trying to get laid

I don't know what they're trying to do. They're definitely not trying to get laid right because they don't do it I think a lot of people are dealing with trauma. I think a lot of times Or do something crazy, right Yeah, You know? I don't think you become a monk or a shaman. Joseph Campbell did a whole thing. Every shaman he studied, he was an expert at comparing Western and Eastern traditions, and he said every shaman ever had gone through some kind of a mental breakdown, usually in

their teens. And they came out of it because they had a society, a village that helped them through it. And they came out of it because they had a society, a village that helped them through it that sort of like understood that it was a schizophrenic break, but they were going through something and there was something on the other side of that. So they wouldn't medicate them. Standing babas. What is this standing what? Standing babas.

Yeah. Look at that guy's foot. Go back to that other image that you had before. It's not a good, it's not a good. What did you have before? That's a woman who's been bound. Oh, that's different. Oh, that's other image that you had before. It's not a good, it's not. What did you have before? That's a woman's been bound. Oh, that's different. Oh, that's Chinese ladies.

Oh, my gosh. That is the most disgusting thing. The Chinese foot binding, like Jesus Christ. I saw that with my own eyes in 1984 in China. I went to the end of China. So this is how this guy stands. Just propped up all the time. That dude looks like he has one leg.

Donations. No, they curved one leg. He's like left his arm in the air, too Oh Jesus look at his arm. Yeah forever. He keeps his arm up 1973. Oh my god. He hasn't brought it down since 1973 Yeah, he says a devotion to Lord Shiva. Maybe Lord Shiva like hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, wipe your ass Yeah, I gave you to wipe your ass. You can't use the same arm to feed yourself and wipe your ass Look, you're gonna have to wipe your ass. That's crazy.

Look at his arm. I bet I could arm wrestle the shit out of that, dude. I bet everything I have. That's not the point, man. Everything I have, dude, let's go. You know who's into arm wrestling now? Brian Shaw. Oh, God.

Yeah. That's a problem. He's been training hard for it. That's a real problem. Look at that dude. Just high out of his mind. I tell you, Brian took a... With fucking white power. I'd say Brian fuck a white power

What does he do what is that No, so that's black power black power. That's what white power is the hand. It's all about the hand if you extend your fingers It's so white power is basically a bitch so black pro-white black power will fuck you up correct white power system. Yeah Pro hate black power will fuck you up. Correct. Why power system? Yeah. Yeah And Hitler did this Yeah, everybody else did this he did this money like when CNN was attacking me one of the photos that they would use all the time Was me at the UFC waving to the crowd like this ladies and gentlemen They would use me standing like this. This is one Is like they caught Lee?

Justin Baldoni thing. Yeah, when you see what the New York Times did to Baldoni where they took every one of those things out of Context and he was like really how about I see you for 250 million dollars? Yeah, and he's got fucking 90 pages of receipts It's gonna be very interesting. Yeah, very interesting It's it's interesting how the mainstream media just continues to go down this road of discrediting themselves Yeah, I don't understand it It's well It's the rise of independent journalism because there are the Michael Schellenbergers the mad tie B's there There are the Barry Weiss Barry Weiss these people in the world Glenn Greenwald

There's these people that you could trust that are gonna tell you the fucking truth no matter what Yeah, that's why I love the marketplace the The marketplace will find people that you can rely on. Yes. To actually... As long as there's freedom of speech. As long as you don't have censorship. That's Elon Musk. Yeah, that's Elon Musk.

I feel like YouTube and now Facebook, they're all coming around. Well that was one of the things that Zuckerberg came on yesterday to talk about. They've changed their content policy. They no longer have fact checkers and now they're gonna rely on community notes. What is that? I don't understand policy. They no longer have fact checkers, and now they're going to rely on community notes. What is that? I don't understand that. They used to have fact checkers. Yeah.

Like someone would say something and someone say that's not true. The vaccine's nothing but amazing. And they'll take off posts. So what are community notes? Community notes is what X uses. So like say if you post something, it's not true. Community notes underneath it would, you could write community notes. Oh, okay. So the community notes would be, everybody would post into it, it's not true the community notes underneath it would you could write community notes? Okay, so the community notes would be everybody would put posted it This is not true and it would come to a consensus the facts state that this and that

It's amazing. It's the best way to do it because The truth comes out. Yeah, the truth comes out Brian calendar. Love you to death. Love you too, but the fucking man. I'm so happy that you're filming at the club It's gonna be fucking awesome. Thank you. Are you filming tomorrow night? Tomorrow night tonight. I'm doing two shows just to warm up Theo von stopping by which I'm excited So tomorrow night 7 & 10 7 & 10 tomorrow night. Beautiful sold out already all shows of course, which is exciting Of course. Yeah, so exciting. I'm pumped for people to see your set too. It's gonna be very powerful I love you, man. you very much for doing this.

Bye everybody.