The Joe Rogan Experience - #2266 - Brian Simpson

Episode Date: January 31, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Little things you say. Like imagine having to be that measured in everything you say all the time. Just stick to the talking points. Bro, that's my whole life. That's stressful. Yeah, it's super stressful. Especially if you're a little intoxicated.
Starting point is 00:00:28 You know, you get a couple of whiskies and you start talking shit. You got to be responsible for every word that comes out of your mouth, even if it's stupid. But, you know, I think people get it. They get that people are human beings and they can stumble like people. They forgave a lot of Biden stumbles until they were like, what the fuck know a lot of people like in 2020 were like there's no way there's no way he's gonna do it he was too old to run when it was 2016 he's kind of always been known for the gaffes like because I remember when when Obama was picked him that was the number
Starting point is 00:01:01 one concern was like sometimes he'd be saying shit. Right. Didn't know by which he was famous, he quoted Joe as a, don't worry, Joe will find a way to fuck things up. Oh, I never heard that. There's supposedly, well it's hard to know what the quote was, but supposedly. But he got out of, he got out of all of it. I mean. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Well, that's because the machine was behind him, right? So he gets into office and you saw that like Mike Johnson guy, the speaker of the house. He said that he had talked to him. It took a year to have a meeting and he finally had this meeting with him. He wanted to talk to him about something. And he said, why did you sign this executive order? And it had something to do with liquid natural gas. He said, I didn't sign that.
Starting point is 00:01:39 He said, yes, you did, sir. You signed it. Can we get it? And so he has a secretary printed up, he brings it in. He had never read it. So he was just signing executive orders that he didn't even know. He didn't know what it was about. He thought it was about research and it was about shutting it down.
Starting point is 00:01:53 And so there's a bunch of people behind him that want to do things and they think it's for the best interest of the country and they're all acting as a big group that's like the puppeteer of the president. And that's not how it's supposed to be. It's not supposed to be that way. Isn't that like that with every president? I don't know. Because I think when a president brings in a new cabinet and the new cabinet starts doing different things, then you see what's happening right now. Right? So they've already found thousands of criminals that had snuck in here and had committed multiple crimes while they
Starting point is 00:02:25 were here and the Biden administration had left them here and they allowed them to stay in these sanctuary cities and sanctuary states and Trump's just yanking them out and flying them back to Colombia and flying them back to Mexico and flying them back to wherever they're from. Get the fuck out of here. No, but exporting them in planes. The Biden administration could have done this too. Yeah, but I think I think they every president to get in there they do they do little shit different than the other side. But at the end of the day, the big major shit that would help out
Starting point is 00:02:55 the average people that should always fall short a couple of votes. Trump is talking about getting rid of income tax and replacing it with tariffs. I asked him about that on the podcast. I thought he was joking around. Yeah, exactly. He was saying that it would be better for the economy. We'd have way more money if instead of you paying tax, these companies should be paying tax. Like why are they making such a killing off the American people? But the companies would just charge us bigger prices, wouldn't they? Well here's the thing. Could they if we had American manufacturing that can make the same products?
Starting point is 00:03:31 No. So the whole reason why- But you can't make the same products for the same price. But if you have other countries charge tariffs, and I think we've charged tariffs in the past, and it's an interesting thing. It's like you make a trade agreement. It's essentially a trade agreement. And his position has always been that one side of the trade agreement was unbalanced and America does a stupid job and negotiating
Starting point is 00:03:51 It's trade agreements. So he wants tariffs and everything. That's what he that's what he threatened the the guy from Colombia with He said because they didn't want to take the prisoners the flights were coming over and he didn't want to give them approval to land He said we're gonna tax you we're gonna to tax you, we're going to tariff you 25%. And then like in a week, we're going to jack it up to 50%. And this guy wrote like a poem to Trump. It was the most ridiculous thing ever. The guy's a wild dude. That's the thing is like if you bring in the terrorists, you have to make them so high that that the American guns were cheaper by comparison. Well you'd have to really ramp up American manufacturing in a lot of places.
Starting point is 00:04:25 We don't make phones. That's one of the craziest things about America. We can't make a phone. We can't even make a phone. We make mistakes. Well, maybe we could make a phone. Isn't there one phone that is made in America? Is there one phone that's manufactured here?
Starting point is 00:04:42 I think there is. Even if it's assembled here? Is it the nothing phone? Is that it? I think it might be assembled here. I think there is I mean even if it's a symbol is it the nothing phone Is that it might be a symbol here out? I think they stop to get they still have to get shit from China Yeah, they have to get shit from Taiwan. They have to get shit from India. Yeah, everybody gets their shit from somewhere Yeah, I mean the problem with American made vexing is you can't do it for cheap because you have to pay people That no our problem is first of all we're addicted to buying new shit all the time I have a I have a bunch of phone lines and one of my phone lines I have an
Starting point is 00:05:13 iPhone 11 it's like five years old I don't notice when I'm using it okay long as it still works you don't notice on a normal experience. What do I do with my phone? I'm not fucking Making complex video rendering, you know, what am I doing? I'm watching YouTube videos I'm text messaging people you don't notice right but we're force-fed this idea that you're supposed to get a new one every year It's one of the weirdest things you got to do TV every year. You get a new computer every year Why the fuck do you get a new phone every year? But every year they keep pushing us to get a new phone if you make a phone that's American made more durable And lasts more than a year It would be worth a premium and I wouldn't have to feel bad about like slaves in China making it
Starting point is 00:05:59 He makes it like the only phone they need to bring back to Nokia phone them those brick phones. Yes Well, don't do that in the strong. Make it a dope phone. But you know. I don't know man. I think those days are long gone. The days of American manufacturing? Well I think with incentives, with government incentives and people understanding that this competition that we're having is all technologically based and if all of our technology is getting made in another country that's essentially a national security issue. See you know you know what I realize is like why because sometimes you know politics comes up in the green room and I just I always separate myself from the conversation
Starting point is 00:06:42 because I realized what everybody has, regardless of what size of issues they're in, is they all have hope. I'm cynical, I'm cynical to them, motherfucker. I'm like, this shit is over, this shit bit. You know, it's like, for me, I'm like, I see the asteroid coming. And I'm like, ain't nothing we gonna be able
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Starting point is 00:08:11 I'm interested to see. Look, if Robert F. Kennedy Jr. gets approved, I'm interested to see. If they start removing pesticides and herbicides and all these things that are killing people, if people's health improves, if we remove things from the human diet, if just start educating people on the importance of diet and exercise, I would love to see that. Yeah, but you know, the problem with that is, we live in a society where like, none of that shit's gonna happen unless it make more money than what we already doing.
Starting point is 00:08:40 That's not necessarily true because you can motivate people. There's a real power in free motivation. And having a government that's promoting health in that way would cause a bunch of people to take that step that they've been thinking about taking. So a lot of times motivation doesn't catch you flat. Motivation catches you looking for motivation. You want to get your shit together, be like, God, I just fucking need to get to the gym. I just need something. And then one day the government announces
Starting point is 00:09:11 that we are going to turn the health of America around and we are gonna promote a national fitness regime. We're gonna start bringing it to schools and kids to get people healthier. We're gonna bring in organic food and start feeding kids when you feed them in public schools and you have free lunches. Did're gonna bring in organic food and start feeding kids. When you feed them in public schools and you have free lunches. Did Michelle Obama try to do something like that?
Starting point is 00:09:29 Yeah, she did. She got shut down. Immediately. Exactly. They shut her right the fuck down. They're like, sit down. Yeah, they're like, no, I'm just down. You're gonna fucking kill our profits.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Fuck this healthy shit. Cause that's the other thing, but what's different now than what's happened back then is we're so divided. If somebody in the government suggested anything was the best, the healthiest thing, at least half the country would be like, I'm not fucking with it for that very reason. Yep, yep, you're so right.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Yeah, it's like they attached Obama to Obamacare, even though it was not a bad thing. And if Trump was like, hey, every American, Trump and Jax is the best exercise. People are like, he don't know Trump jacks. That's your president's exercise. So it was like, we so divided, nothing's gonna stick. I also think that the problem with like healthcare
Starting point is 00:10:15 and all these things where people are getting paid, you're dealing with a bunch of different games that are being played inside a game that has a function. And that function is healthcare. Like it provides healthcare in a kind of shifty, shitty way. But the game it's playing is make the most money. That's the game it's playing.
Starting point is 00:10:42 It's playing a financial game. That's why it's coming up with reasons to deny people and it's using AI To figure out how to deny people and they deny a large amount of claims So it's you got to look at it like what it actually is It's not that it's all bad But that there's a bunch of different games each person in that game is playing their own game You have thousands of employees You have thousands of people trying to corporate
Starting point is 00:11:07 climb the corporate ladder and make more money and get promotions and make more money for the company and Press the board they want a fucking yacht bro I'm talking about how much we divided but it's weird. That's the one thing they couldn't divide people on like I remember like after after after the CEO got popped like on CNN and MSNBC and Fox the narrative was the like how dare people be excited because at first they tried to do what they do with everything and they they say oh these look at these liberals fucking laughing at death and then they realize like oh it's the insurance industry is fucked over everybody. Everybody everybody they don't give a fuck who you voted for
Starting point is 00:11:46 they'll fuck that might be the one health care might be the one thing that we can come to like a bipartisan agreement on that health insurance and insurance companies in general they they're just captivated by what a corporation is a corporation has a responsibility to its shareholders to make the most money and they just that's a problem with the whole structure of it is that no matter what the business is they find a way to make money more than they find a way to do the thing that they're supposed to be doing well as a service to people if Trump actually if Trump actually fixed healthcare he would go down as one of
Starting point is 00:12:22 the greatest presidents he would be like it be, I think it would be a whole different area. Like, if he actually did, like, viable, real change to the healthcare system that, like, made it work for everybody? Well, it used to be that there was no social media. So if you wanted to make a big change, the government could gaslight you on TV in these press conferences and bring out experts and they could gaslight you and tell you what to do and bring out experts, and they could gaslight you and tell you what to do.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And that was all the information you had. That doesn't work anymore. It doesn't work anymore. So this is one of the reasons why this is the best time ever to kind of revamp health care and revamp the way people think about what is healthy. What is healthy? How are you going to revamp it in a way that still makes money? Well, well it doesn't have to, first of all, you're gonna lose money.
Starting point is 00:13:08 The country's gonna lose money. It's like who's gonna get the money? There's an exchange of money, right? So if a lot of people are sick all the time, and a lot of people are on Medicaid, and a lot of people are on health insurance, the country's gonna spend more money that's going to go to pharmaceutical drug companies, but it doesn't have to go there. We can't commit to giving it to them every year just because they've figured out a way
Starting point is 00:13:31 to keep getting it. That's dumb. The right way to say is we have to look at the collective money of the country. Wouldn't it be way better if we spent way less on health care because people got healthier because they figured out there's no easy way to do it. You have to have diet and exercise. It's the most important foundation for any healthy human being. It doesn't matter what kind of exercise.
Starting point is 00:13:55 It probably doesn't even matter what kind of diet as long as you're like committed to eating healthy real food. The whole thing is just diet and exercise and movement. That would fucking cure 70% of the problems we have in this country with healthcare. Because people would be healthy and so then you wouldn't be as susceptible to getting sick. You wouldn't be as susceptible to getting injured. There's a bunch of things that would probably likely stack up financially in our favor. But that's how you make money out of it
Starting point is 00:14:25 You make money out of it because everybody makes more money You make more money if you're healthy Make more money if you're active if you're if you're in the bed all the time because you have back surgery Constantly or if you got this and that and you know, you got a lot of interruptions in your life They're gonna hiccup your career They're gonna hiccup your whatever you're trying to accomplish in your life if you're dealing with being sick all the time. So you think if people were healthier, they would deny less people? I think if people were healthier, first of all, you would need way less healthcare.
Starting point is 00:14:54 First, that's the number one thing. If people were fit and they took care of themselves, there's a giant part of, if you looked at all of the healthcare issues that we have in this country, there's a giant chunk of it that's connected to diet it's connected to the standard American diet it's connected to eating too much calories garbage food obesity that all that is pop it's possible to shift that in a different direction you just have to change the way people eat and that you would see other people getting results and then you would see other people getting results And then you would want those results if you hear RFK jr.
Starting point is 00:15:29 On TV trying to motivate people to do this and you see him working out like maybe that's the thing you need that takes you From man. I got to go to the gym one day. Don't fuck it. I'm going to the gym This is it and then if more people do that There's more healthy people if there's more healthy people There's less losers if there's less losers the there's more healthy people. If there's more healthy people, there's less losers. If there's less losers, the country makes more money. The whole GDP goes up. Everybody, you're gonna do better.
Starting point is 00:15:51 You're gonna do better with whatever you're doing in life if you're healthy, because health is energy. But how do you make people want, like? You don't make them do it, but you inspire. And the government has never done that before. Why not try it? Why not that before. Why not try it? Why not try that? Why not try that?
Starting point is 00:16:07 Why not try to like fucking gaslight people until you got to wear a mask in your car or you're going to die instead of that gaslighting? How about pump them up? They scared the fuck out of everybody with COVID. How about they pump everybody the fuck up with health? If government wanted everybody to do anything, they have to pay them. You know another problem with my theory? I give you a tax break if you lose 40 pounds. You know another problem with my theory? I give you a tax break if you lose 40 pounds. Here's another problem my theory
Starting point is 00:16:28 Trump eats nothing but McDonald's, drinks Diet Cokes, sharpest attack 78 years old like okay I don't know what to tell you. If he came back if he disappeared for like six months and came back just jacked, shaved his head did you see him play tennis with Serena Williams? No. he took his shoes off. He's playing tennis with Serena Williams I mean playing playing not playing like as good as she can play Vollying back and forth and he's playing he running he plays tennis man. He can play tennis Like the guy plays tennis like he's I mean, I don't know how to play tennis So I don't know if it looks good, but I'm looking at him hit the ball
Starting point is 00:17:09 It looks like he's doing it the right. He doesn't look like me if I was doing I'd be a fucking spaz I don't know to play tennis. We lost Yeah, yeah, well, let's see it. It's cuz Oh was oh God damn it. I got lied to by the reals. I thought it just happened But check out the tennis check this out she could clearly fuck him up. Oh, that's a nice gentle serve look at it But look at dude. He's firing back He's old I
Starting point is 00:17:50 Mean but he is doing better than I would do. Oh, way better than me. I mean, he plays tennis. There's video of him playing tennis. There's like photos of him playing tennis. So he does do some things. It's like there's a lot of guys that are too they can't go to a gym. They just they don't they need a purpose or they need something that occupies their brain so they play golf or they play tennis or they play games. They do they play a little pickup basketball They do that for their health because they just can't do the gym thing I just don't want to do it. So they do something that keeps them active I mean most of the people I know do shit like that. Yeah, so he's active But that dude just eats cheeseburgers and shit all day long like
Starting point is 00:18:23 But that dude just eats cheeseburgers and shit all day long like Yeah, it's like I don't know what to say, but he probably also has zero stress Well, he has a way of letting shit roll off his back me had have some stress and that guy shot at him But even then he gets hit in the ear and he stands up and yells fight fight fight It's like is this a movie are we in a movie? Is this like a simulation and then this ear healed up like Wolverine bro, you know a pretty quick You can see a little mark on it See there's a little tiny if you look at it like when he was right there I go let me see it and he leaned in you could kind of see you know the ears filled with blood vessels
Starting point is 00:18:56 Why bleed so much nobody talks about it anymore? No, you know what else nobody talks about the guy who blew up the cyber truck in front of Trump Tower What happened to that guy? You don't know that story. I don't follow any of the pop political stuff. Well, this isn't even political This is a weird story. It's a guy who was like now has it been confirmed that that's him Let's pull up the story cuz I don't I don't want to do it any misjustice But this was After the election, correct? Yes, definitely.
Starting point is 00:19:26 It was real recent. New Year's Day. Okay. New Year's Day. That's how crazy the news cycle is. Like you forget what day things happened. Like was that a year ago? No, it was last week. Oh, all right. There's like something constantly bombarding you all the time. So this dude- That dude? Yeah. What is the story behind him? He was a special forces guy, right? And he was in, I think he was in a television show with Tim Kennedy. They had like a special
Starting point is 00:19:51 forces TV show where they did something. So this guy's like, you know, he's an operator. He's like a serious soldier. Why a cyber truck? And he allegedly committed suicide with a large handgun, a Desert Eagle. Oh, he rinsed it. Okay. Large handgun and blew up this thing. It says self-inflicted gunshot wound. The whole thing's weird, man. Nobody could imagine him doing this.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Everybody's saying it doesn't make sense. This guy knew how to make bombs. Why would he make a shitty bomb like that that doesn't even blow up the building? It just blows him up in the car. And why would he do it in a Cybertruck, which is like the most durable car you can buy? Like that whole thing. The Cybertbertruck you saw that video where I tried
Starting point is 00:20:46 To shoot an arrow through it my arrow exploded that thing solid steel So why would you blow yourself up in a solid but you would get a convertible and fuck everybody up, right? You if you're gonna blow up yourself in a car and you want to do the most damage You'd have a car that you'd want to blow apart. Those Teslas contain the entire explosion. Yeah, I mean, was it that he'd leave some kind of manifesto? I don't know if he left a note. Did he leave a note? I think so. Yep. They probably found it like barely smoldering outside. Look, it's like remember when they
Starting point is 00:21:22 found the terrorist passports, the planes went into the fucking World Trade Center blew up in front of everybody's face just a gigantic enormous pile of fire and yet this dude's Passport just barely singed on the outside like a Bugs Bunny cartoon falls to the ground That's what the whole Sean Ryan thing was about because they sent the email and then it was did the guy write the email? Right that's right that's right that's right that's right that's right now I remember god I forgot Sean Ryan was involved in that and then people were saying that he didn't that guy didn't send that to you you got hoaxed and then Sean Ryan proved that the guy did send that. So he was saying
Starting point is 00:22:01 some stuff in there about drones and what was he saying? Let's put up what he said. You know what I realized man. Shout out to Sean Ryan. It said in case I do not make it to my decision point or onto the Mexican Mexico border I am sending this now. Please do not release this until 1 Jan and keep my identity private until then. First off I'm not under duress or hostile influence or control my first car was a 2006 black Ford Mustang v6 for verification
Starting point is 00:22:31 First of all, that's not true. That was not his first car. No, no, he had a different car We'll find that out in a second put a tab on that Jamie What we have been seeing with drones is the operational use of Gravitic propulsion systems powered aircraft by most recently China in the East Coast, but throughout history, the US. Only we and China have this capability. Our open location for this activity in the box is below. China has been launching them from the Atlantic from submarines for years with this activity recently is picked up. As of now, it is just a show of force and they are using it similar to how they use the balloon for SIGINT and ISR, which are also part of the integrated comm systems. There are dozens of those balloons in the air at any given time. The so what is because of the speed and stealth of these unmanned aircraft, they are the most
Starting point is 00:23:28 dangerous threat to national security that has ever existed. They basically have an unlimited payload capacity and can park it over the White House if they wanted to. It's checkmate. US government needs to give the history of this, how we're employing and weaponizing it, how China is employing them and what the way forward is. China is poised to attack anywhere in the East Coast. I've been followed for over a week now, likely from Homeland or FBI, and they're looking
Starting point is 00:23:55 to move on me and are unlikely to let me cross into Mexico, but I won't because they know I am armed and I have a massive VBIED. I think that's vehicle something. Vehicle-borne Influenza. Oh, you know, you're a military guy. I've been trying to maintain a very visible profile and have kept my phone and they are definitely digitally tracking me. I have knowledge of this program and also of war crimes that were covered up during airstrikes in the this program and also of war crimes that were covered up during airstrikes in the Nimruz province Afghanistan in 2019 by the admin DOD DEA and CIA. I conducted targeting for these strikes over 125 buildings. 65 were struck because of CIV,
Starting point is 00:24:39 CAS that killed hundreds of civilians in a single day. USFORA continued strikes after spotting civilians on initial ISR. It was supposed to take six minutes and scramble all aircraft to CENTCOM. The UN basically called these war crimes, but the administration made them disappear. I was part of that cover-up with USFORA, and Agent Redacted, they just cut his name off, of the DEA.
Starting point is 00:25:07 So I don't know if my abduction attempt is related to either. I worked with General Miller's 10 staff on this as well as the response to Bala Murgab, AOBS commander at the time, Redacted. Okay, he said, you need to elevate this to media so we avoid a world war because this is a mutually assured destruction situation. So he gave his LinkedIn for vetting, active duty, you know, he gets his profile, the whole deal. Now the problem is that was not his first car.
Starting point is 00:25:43 So Google what his first car was But why why why lie about that because somebody might not have known Like if you ask like there's a lot of people that say what was your first car and a lot of people don't know I've said it publicly but like how many people know what my first car was, right? Right. So if you're a dude and you're hanging out with other dudes, I don't know what your first car was. Oh, so you're suggesting someone else wrote that? Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Oh. Yeah, I mean, if they get the car wrong, yeah. Yeah, you're right. I mean, that's a hell of a detail to get wrong. Here, I had my first car was a 1973 Chevelle, but I only had it for like two days, it broke down. And the guy sold me a lemon, and I got my money back.
Starting point is 00:26:26 He came and got his car. I think he knew he fucked me. And then my next car after that was a 1968 Oldsmobile. So I remember. I know what my cars were. Like, you're a kid, you get your first car, you know what your first car was. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Bitch, if your first car was a 2007 Mustang, everyone's going to know. You're going to tell everybody, right? Yeah, you're not going to forget what your first car was. You're going to know. You're not going to be confused. You're not going to be confused as to what was your first car. You'll pull it out right away.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I've never seen anybody get that wrong. Your car is like the first time you have freedom You can't believe you could just drive anywhere you want you go to your friend's house like dude. I can drive It's one of the wildest experiences. I remember clearly just learning to drive And how wild it was you just drive we're so used to it We're basically riding around an amusement park rides You would pay a lot of money to ride in like your car that Audi bro. That's like you're in a you're in a
Starting point is 00:27:33 super capable sports sedan from 2024 so you're talking about like modern Suspension and anti-lock braking system and everything's controlled electronically and you have a fucking super powerful engine it's all taut and it moves differently based on how the fucking ground moves like whether it's shitty surface or smooth surface they just adapt to everything that thing's glued. Yeah it's crazy. Yeah those things are crazy.
Starting point is 00:28:04 This world that we live in today is so fun. You would remember your first car. I'm having a hard time. This is one of the strangest searches I've had. I'll add this to conspiracy. I can't find anything that's coming up with a date before like January 4th, which would only be a few days, excuse me, a few days after. I've done Google search and Twitter search.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Twitter search didn't show anything and I hit latest and still Not show me anything recent. Yeah, somebody wrote a whole article about how that was not his first car I know but it's just weird that it's blocking this stuff. Look at the thing. Can you try the brave browser? How would it I don't know that it would have a I'm on a website Isn't giving me anything More recent than January 4th. So when they say about discrepancies, does anybody use the car as a discrepancy? Because I definitely know I read that.
Starting point is 00:28:52 No, that's not what I'm even bringing up. I'm sort of saying like the search is being manipulated right now. Like I can't search for this. What? That's what I'm trying to say. Ew. Like searching for his name and car was it I don't get anything in the last three weeks. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:29:09 No one on Twitter is talking about it. Let me imagine this. Is it possible that if there was a story like this and you were trying to cover up discrepancies and you didn't want people talking about it, could you just flood the search with a bunch of other stories on it so that it takes so many pages to get to it that you would never get it? I would argue yes, you could,'s I'm not seeing that I'm seeing the opposite I'm seeing no stories other than like within the 48 hours of it happening Wow that's I find that odd that is weird like I'll go to page two news isn't sure
Starting point is 00:29:42 it's like four weeks ago but how just write, will you do me a favor and just write Matthew Livelsberger, how do you say it? Livis? Livelsberger? Livelsberger's car was not, first car, just say first car. I did. But let me ask you, just say first car was not a 2006 Ford Mustang.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I think that's too specific. Yeah, that's too specific. But just try. Was not, first car was not a 2006 Ford Mustang I mean, it's getting the same thing. That's sort of hmm. It's not the best way to do a search This ain't the little itty-bitty teeny tiny bolt This is Super Bowl 59 get Get in on the action at DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of Super Bowl 59. Scoring
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Starting point is 00:31:54 So are you telling me that he's blowing himself up and shoot himself the same time like does he have a button on his left hand? That's the bomb detonator and then the trigger on his right a button on his left hand that's the bomb detonator and then the trigger on his right I don't know man that's just highly advanced man I get tweets from two hours ago. The cyber truck might have shot him. So again when I take off the word car from my search on Twitter I get tweets from two hours ago. So they're still tweeting like crazy about it. But when I type in car now it's old tweets.
Starting point is 00:32:19 You get January 16th. Yeah. I'm on latest. That's weird. He typed first car. I didn't I just typed in the word car. I should try first car. I know. I know. I reduced it so that it was less specific. But what's the rest of the conspiracy incorrect after the first car discrepancies? Right click on that show more. So including incorrect reference for the first car Littlesburg owned. According to public records, his first car was not a 2006 Ford, contrary to what is mentioned in the
Starting point is 00:32:52 email. This has led to skepticism on whether the email is real or fabricated. That's it. According to public records, that was not his first car. Well, show us the public records. Let's see. It was a BMW. 2008 1 Series BMW. I would add, wouldn't this just be registered under his name? Maybe he borrowed one.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Maybe his parents registered it. I think they checked his parents' cars, too. Yeah, but what about that 1998? It's a Ford Mustang. But it's 2006. There's a big difference. See right here, why is Sean Ryan spreading an easily confirmed fake email?
Starting point is 00:33:28 If your first car was a 1998 Mustang, would you say your first car was a 2007 Mustang? The dates don't even line up. So he had a 98 Ford Mustang. Why is the BMW circled? Because, you see, the thing is, whenever weird shit happen, the first people to talk be full of shit.
Starting point is 00:33:44 They the worst people. So it foolish it they the work those they're worse people So it looks like he didn't have he had scrolled out back again. So he had a 98 Mustang Not a 2007 that was his first car then he had a 2008 BMW And then he had a Jeep He never had a 2006 Mustang. You can see right where he got divorced because he got a Mustang again. Yeah, I'm back baby. 2018. 2018 he got a Ford Mustang GT.
Starting point is 00:34:11 That's that midlife crisis. He got the GT too. Greg Fitzsimmons got it. He got it with the EcoBoost. He was telling me how much he loves it. I was like, I know, but you didn't get the V8. He's like, oh, gas mileage. I'm like, shut your mouth.
Starting point is 00:34:23 What you mean EcoBoost? Oh, it's a great engine. Don't get me wrong. It's got plenty of power in comparison to old cars It's way more powerful. It's a fast fucking car, but the eco boost is just more fuel efficient It doesn't have the same horsepower. Okay, and the GT has the coyote V8 that has a rumble Makes you feel alive You know, when you, rumble, rumble. You ever been in a red light with a guy in a Mustang
Starting point is 00:34:49 and they take off and you hear that sound? Especially if he's got a manual. Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I forget what year it was but it was all the shit, but he he was obsessed with this motherfucking car and it was so fucking loud yeah, it was definitely like a 70 something It was like an old the cool ones Yeah, but it was like no modern technology this motherfucker. It was loud as shit Corvettes are the only cars that looked good into the 70s all the other American cars turned to dogshit They turned it they
Starting point is 00:35:25 became boxes they became fuel-efficient boxes but Corvettes always had that and then eventually they fucked that up too and they made Corvettes like flat and stately looked like a wedge they look so stupid for a while but now they're back now they're better they're better looking now I think like Tony's I think that these new ones the 2025 2025s and 26s, they're better than any other car ever. Any American car. Like the Corvette ZR1, it's the greatest American car
Starting point is 00:35:52 that's ever been built. It's 1,100 horsepower. I don't know shit about it. Oh, Brian Simpson, you ready to look at this? You got one? No, no, no, I don't have one. But this is, Google this. This is literally the greatest American car ever produced by a long shot.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Corvette Z1. ZR1. It's got a giant wing on the back of it. It's literally a race car that you can buy. It has 1100 horsepower. Or excuse me, 1064 horsepower. And this is not even tuned, right? Guys are going to be able to do things with these things. You're going to get these Hennessy guys. Is this new? Yeah, you're gonna get these Hennessy guys that are gonna like jack up the boost and make them even faster. These things are insanely fast insanely fast and insanely capable I don't know if they've got Nurburgring times on them But I wouldn't be surprised if it's the fastest American car ever. How much does that cost? I think it's like a hundred and ninety thousand dollars.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I think they're coming to Austin soon. Bro, this car is fucking insane. It has carbon fiber wheels. It's insane. And it's beautiful. Like, look at that thing. I mean it's just a piece of art and engineering, you know, together. It's really, it looks like what you'd expect from a foreign supercar.
Starting point is 00:37:08 From like Ferrari or McLaren or something like that. That's what it looks like. It looks incredible. I don't know how we get on the subject. Oh, we were talking about how you remember your first car. Oh, you remember your first car. Fuck, imagine your first car is this thing. Your first car should be a Miata.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Everybody should drive a stick shift Miata. But you can't buy your, cause like some people get crazy and they buy their kids shit like that. Well, you know it's like motorcycles. You know I was gonna get a motorcycle license at one point in time and one of my buddies was gonna get it like a ninja.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I was like bro, we shouldn't do that. We shouldn't just hop right on some crazy bike that you gotta get comfortable with the whole deal of riding a ninja. I was like, bro, we shouldn't do that. We shouldn't just hop right on some crazy bike that you got to get comfortable with the whole deal riding a bike. Bro, I told you how many of my friends or family that I've had to talk out of getting a motorcycle. Like it's like that midlife crisis part where it's like, hey bro, you never rode a motorcycle. Like you 40, you can't start now. I got real close and then the universe gave me a whole bunch of signs. Nah, because even the best riders in the world will lay that bike down.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Yep. So it's like, you out here, you haven't ridden a bike ever or in 25 years, it's like you gonna get fucked up out there. You ever see the one when the dude is flying down a country road and he hits a deer? No. Ohhhh. Flying down a country road. He hits a deer. No This dude is like I wanted those race bikes Flying through the air, but I saw one the other day where it was the other way around
Starting point is 00:38:41 It was like it was like the end of a parade or something and there were girls in the street in this guy It was a bunch of motorcycles went by but only one girl got hit. Oh god. But it was like oh god. Oh man. That's uh. Vehicles. Yeah but you can't you can't. So you didn't see this thing today. Um a Blackhawk helicopter collided with a American Airlines flight. Oh. Over DC. Yeah. Over DC? Over DC. Yeah, and they plunged into the Potomac and Everybody's dead and there's video of it. There's a fireball in the sky. The helicopter collides right with the plane Explodes in the sky. Watch this Boom they explode and collide in the sky and then this is the plane. It's crazy. And it's only I mean it's not there's nothing fortunate about it but it's fortunate that it landed in the river and then it didn't land on apartment buildings you know and kill
Starting point is 00:39:40 a bunch more people. I don't even know how that happens. I've never heard of something like that happening. It's and then where did the helicopter emanate from? Where did it come from Jamie? Probably Andrews. This is a military helicopter. Andrews Air Force based I'm guessing. I don't understand how that's possible. I don't get it but I don't know anything about flying man You know honestly man it comes close to happening a lot fuck. That's so crazy that a military
Starting point is 00:40:15 Helicopter collides with a American Airlines jet And this and I I don't think it was some kind of malfunction it probably was that communication somebody got wrong information Yeah, maybe Unless we find out that someone was on that jet Like someone who has like important was a drive scientist Some fucking dude is at the forefront of quantum computing He's got a laptop with him that he's trying to deliver to somebody in Saudi Arabia. This is why I checked out, bro, because it's so hard to take everything serious because
Starting point is 00:40:52 it's like we live in such a ridiculous time. The chances are more than zero that what you said is the case, just now. Right, more than zero. It's like we live in a ridiculous, we don't trust anything. Right. I don't. So it's like, that could be, somebody, cause my next thought shouldn't be,
Starting point is 00:41:10 I wonder if somebody important was on that jet. The other thought was that you can control those helicopters remotely. You don't have to have pilots. No, bullshit. Yeah, you can. You can fly a helicopter remotely. Yes. They
Starting point is 00:41:26 use artificial intelligence now not just to fly helicopters, but also to fly jets. And when they use jets that are controlled by artificial intelligence versus jets that are controlled by the best pilots we have, the jets can control by artificial intelligence when dog fights 100% of the time. Yeah, but they gonna fuck some, I mean listen, cuz all I have to judge. This is the tin foil, we're putting on some tin foil. Yeah, but all I have to judge my artificial intelligence is the Google Gemini and chat GVT and they be fucking shit up. Yeah, but this is just consumer grade.
Starting point is 00:42:01 This is consumer grade shit that didn't exist a while ago and exists now. So here it is. Blackhawk remote controlled demos have been performed by Sikorsky Aircraft and Lockheed Martin to demonstrate the ability to remotely control a Blackhawk helicopter. These demos have shown the potential for autonomous flight and the ability to perform missions without a pilot. Okay, but here's the other thing now. But this is the thing, if it's such a super sophisticated piece of equipment, how is it
Starting point is 00:42:32 not, if it is being piloted by a person, how do they not have sensors that detect where the planes are? How is that even possible? That you could be in a place where planes are flying 500 miles an hour left and right all over the place landing and taking off and you're gonna fly through that and you don't know where the planes are that seems insane that doesn't even seem possible because like how could you exist as a military aircraft if you don't have a comprehensive analysis of everything that's around you all the time we have sensors we put them on jets
Starting point is 00:43:04 why wouldn't we put sensors on the helicopter? They probably do have them. So why didn't it work? We're gonna find out pretty soon. But everybody's dead, right? So how do you know when everybody's dead? They think the pilots are dead of the helicopter. I believe there was supposed to be two people in the helicopter? Four? Three? Three people in the helicopter? And was it like 60 or 70 people? 60 people in the plane are dead. Damn, only 60 people on the flight?
Starting point is 00:43:32 Small flight. I guess it was mostly a figure skating team. Fuck, man. Oh yeah, because that's the thing, I was saying it would have to be a group of people. Because if they just wanted to take out one person, why waste a helicopter? Like, there's better way to kill one person? Yeah? Well also you want like the worst press possible kill a plane filled with young figure skaters
Starting point is 00:43:56 the sweetest most delicate people like twirling around the ice I mean we think of them like they're almost like Superhumans, you know that they wouldn't even want to think about that's why like when that Tonya Harding, Nancy Kerrigan shit went down, nobody even want to believe it's possible. The figure skating community's got thugs. Remember that? Yeah. The figure skating community tries to take out people by breaking their knees. And that shit was ripe for comedy for like five years. Yeah Yeah, people get vicious about shit man, but they get vicious and but here's the other thing I It might just be incompetence most likely somebody was just fucked up or most likely someone made a mistake most likely But in this day and age when you know about things that have happened, you know about false flags
Starting point is 00:44:44 You know about all kinds of shit that happens You always got a wonder and if if we do find out here's worst-case scenario what if a foreign government has figured out a way to hack in to our equipment and They can get a helicopter to fly right into a plane What if this is like proof of concept see I think a better conspiracy would be if we found out that it was like Delta was behind it. You know what I mean? Delta trying to take out American Airlines?
Starting point is 00:45:11 Or like Alaska was like, yo, we're going to fucking ruin their reputation. But if you were a foreign country and you wanted to demonstrate that you have technical superiority over people, how would you do it? Well, first of all, you'd lay the groundwork, right? This is one thing they definitely did, right? Where's that lighter, bro? Got that? Thank you, sir. You lay the groundwork,
Starting point is 00:45:33 and the groundwork is sell them all the shit they need. Sell them all the shit they need. And some of the shit you sell them, put a little back door in there. Put a little back door in there. And they've been doing that. That's a fact. That's why Huawei was banned from the United States. They banned Huawei phones.
Starting point is 00:45:50 They were the most sophisticated phones. They were coming out of China. It was so good. It was great. Yeah, you're right. I've taught this before. Forgive me if you heard it before, but I tried to buy a Porsche design Huawei phone.
Starting point is 00:46:03 It was an amazing phone. It was like so much more advanced than iPhones. It had a bigger battery and like a hundred megapixel camera. And then right before it was coming out, they put the ban. And then there's all these national security concerns and Huawei is like spying on Americans and something about the routers and their systems they figured out there's like backdoor possibilities that were engineered into these things. So they sold us cell phone towers and computer chips and all this stuff and all the components that you need to run your AI.
Starting point is 00:46:36 So wouldn't it make sense that if they're a part of it, they're integrated into it physically, and we know they put put back doors on things. Wouldn't you put back doors on the stuff that you're putting into jets? Wouldn't you pack, it's like, who's making that stuff? Who's making all those electronics that are inside the jets? I think we make those.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Do you think we make the chips? Do you think we make the chips? Do you think, do you think we make, what do we make? Do we make the hard drives? Are you sure? I don't know I don't know do we make the processors it just seems like do we It would be a very smart thing But do we make this one does do we make the processors or? Have there been installed?
Starting point is 00:47:19 Some sort of electronical backdoor into almost everything that we have Almost everything we have. Almost everything we have. Anything could be taken over. I think that it probably is the case, but it's definitely our government doing it. You know the Michael Hastings story, right? No. You don't know that story?
Starting point is 00:47:36 No. This was the guy who was a journalist who was writing for Rolling Stone, and he goes over to Afghanistan. Was it Afghanistan? Goes over to Afghanistan and gets stuck there because of the volcano. So the volcano in Iceland I think, so this volcano blows up and the sky is covered with dirt. You can't see for like weeks so you can't fly. So he can't leave there.
Starting point is 00:48:02 So he gets stuck with his troop. He's embedded with these troops. And they get loose. They get loose. They start saying things. They start talking shit about Obama. The general talks shit about Obama. And then this guy puts all this in the story. And he puts all this in the story. They thought he was like one of their homies. We're just hanging out. We're just boys. He's not going to write about that. Meanwhile, they got wrote about all that shit. You get these 20-year-old kids. They they're deployed at war and of course they're going to talk shit. They're kids. You get the generals like hanging out with these guys. They're going to talk shit. They're a bunch of men out there doing war. So he has to step down and he, the general is one of the most beloved generals
Starting point is 00:48:37 in the military and then this guy is terrified for his life and his his op- The reporter? The reporter's terrified for his life. Because he's been threatened. So then he dies on, was it Laurel Canyon? La Brea. La Brea. He dies on La Brea. Melrose and Highland, sorry. Oh, Melrose and Highland?
Starting point is 00:48:57 I'm watching the video right now, but that's- Either way. Either way. The point is, he's in LA He's going like a hundred and twenty miles an hour And he goes straight into a tree and the car explodes the car explodes and hit watch how fast he goes look at this He just hits the gas and boom runs into a tree and explodes Had said you know if anything, I didn't kill myself.
Starting point is 00:49:31 And then the question was back then, so was this 2005? 2013. So back then the question was do they have the technology to take over vehicles? And if you ask people that are honest, the answer is yes. Yeah, they do. There's a way to do it. It's not impossible. It's not like breathing underwater. It can be done.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Whether you have to get access to the actual car itself and put something in there, I don't know. But it can be done. That's why people, like it's gonna be a couple generations before people will be down with it being fully autonomous cars. Like you know we see all these driverless cars around this motherfucker all the time. But it's like I ain't getting in one of them motherfuckers. Yeah get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:50:18 No way. But, but, because if they wanted to kill you, I mean we saw that in the old, the new Total Recall they did that where it's like all the cars drive themselves and but when they want to fire you they fucking stop your car Pull you over. Yeah Everybody's terrified about that, you know and There's cars right now that they could shut off If there's a police chase, that's what on star does right? So like if you're in one of those Corvettes I bet that Corvette has onstar
Starting point is 00:50:51 does that Corvette have onstar so the what the way they sell you onstar is they say well Brian if someone steals your car we can just shut it off and you're like oh that would be good I don't want anybody stealing my beautiful car but the the other side of that is we could also just shut it off for other reasons right we can shut it off because we don't like you and we just decided to shut your car Don't worry. It says right here that that's illegal You could have the wrong political opinion depending on who's in power You know, you want to give these people power because you don't want the other side to win But then the problem is now you've established that the government which is not always you is going to have power and they're gonna Just be able to shut your fucking car off
Starting point is 00:51:22 which is not always you, is going to have power. And they're gonna just be able to shut your fucking car off. Stolen C7 Corvette disabled remotely by police using OnStar. Yeah, they just shut them off. See, that's a happy moment. Look at that. The sad moment is you got a trunkload of meth and you're making a run for it.
Starting point is 00:51:38 They just shut your car off. Right. But imagine being a drug runner and getting all the features. Well, the drug runners always get caught going too fast. It's the dumbest fucking thing you'll ever hear. They always get busted going like 16 miles an hour over the speed limit. What does it say, Jamie? Mandatory.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Mandatory. Comes with mandatory OnStar subscription. There's no way around it. One of my favorite online lawyers he always goes his name is Bruce Rivers but he always saying never commit a misdemeanor while you commit a felony. You know it's like you if you're moving cocaine don't break the speed limit put on your seatbelt. Yeah it's just the dumbest but you get these kids that are willing to do these drug runs and they're cocky and they're probably using right So they're probably taking a little amphetamines while they're driving to stay sharp Brian
Starting point is 00:52:31 Can't get sleepy behind the wheel and they're probably not the most reliable people. Anyway, they're literal drug runners Like what they're doing can get them locked up for the rest of their fucking life and they're probably gonna make $2,000 for doing this Yeah, and I have some cool stories. I mean who's gonna make the money? They're probably doing it for somebody else right? They're probably moving it for somebody and they have to sell it and they get a piece and then you know and then they keep doing it and that's that's they just have to hope they don't get arrested and then they do it a few times you get a little cocky. I mean someone's bringing all this shit in. Like how's it getting in? How many cars if you're a cop and you're just out there looking around all you how many of these moving trucks have fentanyl? I think the CIA bringing most of it a bit a bit of it
Starting point is 00:53:11 I mean sure who stopped selling drugs when they get away with it nobody right why would they stop doing that right? They just now they just know how to not get caught well Maybe probably work with people because please believe because please believe, if we really, really wanted to stop drugs, it would be extreme, but we could, but we don't like it. It would be too hard. You'd have to take away too much freedom from people. They wouldn't stand for it, and they'd vote you out of office. I'm talking about just stop it from coming into the country.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Yes, you could stop it from coming into the country, but you're not going to stop a demand. The real problem is, just like the prohibition of alcohol, and I'm not comparing meth with alcohol because I think most people that I know responsibly use alcohol. They take a few drinks. I mean, I know a bunch of people who have abused it. I know a bunch of people who had to stop drinking. But most guys that we're friends with,
Starting point is 00:53:57 you have a drink, you guys want to do a shot? Let's do a shot, yay. And then you go do your show, and no one's getting drunk every night. You know what I mean? I rarely see anybody drunk. But if you're out there doing meth, there's a chance you're not engaging in like Responsible meth use this is a good chance if you're using meth you're going hard just micro dosing you're just going No, no one ain't my
Starting point is 00:54:21 They're going hard. I think meth gets you to go hard You're listening to fucking slayer in your car and you're fired up and you're making bad decisions Yeah, I mean you definitely just not thinking you're just doing but what is Adderall Adderall super close to meth super close It's an amphetamine. Yeah, it's not the same but it's and Yeah, you get it's in the hunt Especially if you take a lot of it if you take a lot of it it might as well be meth If you say people abuse the shit out of everything you tell them to take one they're gonna take five or six I think the biggest problem is like most people's lives
Starting point is 00:54:56 Suck so bad. They're like drugs is their only Thing that's true, too. That's true, too.'s true too. That's instant happiness. That's true. Even when you, cause you know what's so funny is, I think a lot of people assume that most of the homeless people on the street are homeless because they had a drug problem, but it's usually the other way around. They usually are fine when they hit the street and they start using drugs.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Cause like, what else the fuck you gonna do? Where else you gonna get happiness from? You not warm, you not safe. Well, there's probably a bunch of different scenarios there but a lot of it has to do with drug use. And a lot of it has to do with self-medicating. A lot of those people are just like severely mentally ill and really should be in some sort of an institution.
Starting point is 00:55:40 People are never gonna stop getting high. No, they're not going to. I'm smoking a cigar right now. And I don't know what the solution is. Oh, just legalize everything. I don't know that either. I would have said that five years ago. But maybe that is the ultimate solution.
Starting point is 00:55:58 But the way it's implemented, because I think they tried that in Seattle or Portland or something. Yeah, they had to stop it. Yeah, and so it's like, but they also just went from what we doing now to like just everything's legal. Yeah. Yeah, but they also it's Portland They're ridiculous those people are ridiculous. That was Seattle, right? No, was it Portland or Seattle? Which one was it that it was Oregon that? Legalize everything right? I think you're right. Yeah, it was Oregon. So it was Portland. Portland's ridiculous. They're ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:56:26 So if you just say you can just do drugs wherever you want, just do whatever you want, everything's legal now, everyone's just going to be brazen about it. You've got a culture that was demonized for so long and you have a culture of mental illness where people are looking for something to get them out of this rut that they're in and The only thing that makes them feel good is fentanyl or oxycodone or whatever the fuck they're taking What have that shit that makes you lean over? What's that stuff? It's a lot of shit to do it the stuff that we're doing yoga Trank
Starting point is 00:57:03 Whatever the fuck they're doing these people they're trying to escape right and The the idea that you just like leave them they're obviously like severely mentally ill like if we spend money on people with illness why don't we spend money on people with mental illness it seems like if you want to support Medicaid shouldn't you support like mass medical assistance to most of these people because a lot of them are probably severely mentally ill and unmedicated and maybe they can be helped. Maybe someone can take them into an institution and give them...
Starting point is 00:57:31 There's somebody calling you a socialist right now in the comments. I am in a lot of ways. I am with some things like the fire department. I think the fire department is a very socialist idea. We're all going to put our money into this one group of people that's going to act in the best interest of the entire community and put out fires everywhere regardless of who's got money or doesn't. Like if you're a poor person and you live on this block and your house catches on fire, they don't say, we're not going to put that fire out. We're only going to put the big guy's fire out. No, the fucking house gets on fire, everybody agrees that that fire needs to get put out so the fire people move. You you spend your tax dollars on that. That's how I feel about health care.
Starting point is 00:58:07 That's it's it's true that's a good way to look at it. It's like imagine the fire department could deny you when your house was burning. See the problem is they're already making so much money doing it the way they're doing it now and they've got a really good system. If I was a business person involved in that system not just a human being with ethics and morals, I would say this is the way to do it because this is the way we're going to make the most money. But people are tired of it. That's why people were cheering when that guy got shot, which is kind of fucked up. Here's the truth of the matter. Some shit just can't be for profit. If we want it to
Starting point is 00:58:39 be for the best, some stuff can't be for profit. The thing about that guy shooting that person that's the most disturbing wasn't just that everybody, that a lot of people cheered for it, but was the most disturbing was that people weren't mad. They weren't outraged. They didn't treat it like a regular assassination. It was like an assassination where he deserved it.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Right, it didn't seem like a bad, even though people were like, that was horrible. It didn't seem like as bad a thing as like if someone shot John Lennon. Yeah. I mean or not even a famous person if someone just randomly shot some you know executive as it was walking out. You know how I reacted with the same way when they got Osama Bin Laden. I was like it's the same to me. Really. Yeah. Because you feel like that insurance guy was Osama Bin Laden? No, but I mean, they both are indirectly responsible for the death of how many Americans,
Starting point is 00:59:34 except he was doing it for profit. Osama was doing it for the love of the game or whatever. I do think it's a corporate capture issue. I think the culture of the corporation is to make as much money as possible and deny more people than the other insurance companies do. Like they they had a higher rate of denying. You can't let people's grandmas die and let them stay in pain and shit and expect them to have empathy for you. Did you ever see that one
Starting point is 00:59:57 video? I think we played on the podcast where this woman talked about how she made a decision to deny someone care that they definitely needed and she was thanked by the company and then the guy wound up dying and she knows that she could have given him the life-saving care she could have approved it and she was rewarded for not approving it like they were like you did the right thing so that's like the culture is not about it's see like what we're talking about earlier it's not really about health care. Health care is the arena in which they're playing their game but the real game is the people behind the
Starting point is 01:00:32 scenes that are trying to make money. Especially if you're doing something that is not you don't have a lot of meat it doesn't give you a lot of meaning to deny people health care. It doesn't give you a lot of meaning like you don't feel like you have a meaningful life. So those people guarantee you they get addicted to material stuff. They get addicted to getting a nice Rolex. I want to get the newest Rolex. I want to get a fucking Ferrari. I want to... And you also got to... It got to switch up your whole ethic. Yep, yep. And you got to somehow or another placate yourself. Whether it's with drugs or with buying a new purse
Starting point is 01:01:07 Something you need new stuff all you're not gonna live in a fucking log hut in the woods if you're living like that You're not gonna be interested in starting your own fire and reading books by candlelight. Shut the fuck up You're doing cocaine and you're trying to buy a house Yeah, you're surrounded by people that like yeah, they're they're impressed by the shit you're trying to buy a house. And you're surrounded by people that like, Yeah. They're impressed by the shit you're doing too. And they probably all Medicaid. Everybody's on probably something that's like, it allows them to like not freak out all the time.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Some sort of anti-anxiety medication because of what they're doing. And then they don't feel fulfilled in life, you know? You don't feel like that's a good relationship between you and the way you make money and the way you interact with people No, I don't think they feel good. I mean some people might feel guilty afterwards I think they're medicated. I bet yeah bet if you're in I bet you have anxiety when you're doing stuff like that You probably need an SSRI probably Neil something
Starting point is 01:02:02 It's like the easiest person allowed to is yourself Mm-hmm like you probably feel like shit you get their first paycheck and you go you start twisting shit So you could justify like well, you know somebody would do this and you also realize hey the rest of the public They don't know they don't know that's just the insurance business. That's the business This is standard Standards of word they use a lot when they try trying to fuck you. People looked at it very differently than someone just shooting some other person. They almost looked at it like he deserved it. And it wasn't bipartisan, that's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:02:32 That was the wildest thing about the whole thing. It was like, you couldn't tell by any other information from anybody how they felt about it. I just felt nothing, honestly. It was weird too, because it gave a lot of liberal grifters the opportunity to celebrate someone getting shot and murdered violently, which is like, should be the complete opposite of the way they view violent crime. They should think of violence as being the last resort, violence is abhorrent, violence is not a part of a civilized society, we want kindness and compassion and we want people to be able to live their
Starting point is 01:03:10 life health. You don't want violent murders on the street if you are a progressive. But a lot of progressives were cheering when this guy got murdered. Which just shows how many grifters and hypocrites there are. The thing is, I would, because for for me it just depends on who got murdered. I'm not rooting for a murderer But it's our people down like you know well I don't even know what this guy's relationship to that guy was I don't know why he wanted to kill him I'm not a syphilis is a lot of speculation
Starting point is 01:03:43 about was it a family member or like he'd had a back surgery that screwed him up? But like I said, I only get the news that like rises, that's like forced in my face because I don't watch any of the channels. To me, it's different than like, let's say some Iraq war veteran assassinated Dick Cheney. Like that to me makes more sense. That one makes more sense. Here's a guy who knows that this guy engineered this thing where they lied about weapons of mass destruction, led us into a war that ultimately wind up killing
Starting point is 01:04:21 who knows how many people. But I think people I think Dick Cheney would have got a better reaction Then then this guy you think people would have been sad that dick Cheney got shot well They would have thought it's very dangerous No, but I think whenever a vice president gets shot everybody feels vulnerable I think that's that's something that you can you can partisan as a word I think it's something you can you can write out you can make partisan, but with like I said, that's what's special This was special. That's what's special about this is...
Starting point is 01:04:47 Everybody got fucked over by a traitor. Everybody got fucked over. So there's people that love Dick Cheney, or there's people that still hold those politics from back then. I don't know if anybody loved Dick Cheney. That's why it was really crazy when Dick Cheney endorsed Kamala, and they were all like, yeah, what are you talking about? What? That guy? What? You forgot?
Starting point is 01:05:03 Yeah, but I just mean, I don't think he is as hated as, I mean, the truth is, nobody knew that CEO's name before this, but the whole business is hated. So it's like, he became the face of that. And it's definitely apolitical. It's like, I don't know a single person that hasn't had an issue with health insurance. Yeah. Well, again, it's a business. It's a business designed to make money and all of
Starting point is 01:05:35 them want to make, I mean, they have an obligation. They need to make more money next quarter. What can we do? What can we do? They start denying people. And if you're using AI, like specifically to deny AI, like specifically to deny people, like, let's make this more efficient. Is that what's happening now? I don't know if that's true, but I've read it. I've read it that some insurance companies are using AI to deny more claims than ever. See if that's true. I wouldn't be shocked. Would you be shocked? If you're a company and you're trying to make the most money and
Starting point is 01:06:03 you find out that there's software that will allow you to make more money and all you care about is making money, you're not really caring about healthcare. You don't want people to feel... If you did, you'd say, we should all make less money and give out more money to these people. We could accept more claims and we would have a much healthier world and we would feel better karmically. Wouldn't that be nice if they thought like that? No. You'd have to own the company. You'd have to be like a guru, like a really calm, peaceful guru, and you would own the company
Starting point is 01:06:31 and just have an ethical insurance company and not give anybody's stake in it. Don't let anybody try to juice the system because they want to make more money. Oh, like not a public company. Exactly. Stay private. Stay private.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Don't you think the type of person that we even want to make an insurance company, like I think you would have to be a certain type. Yeah, you have to be a cycle. I should profit from suffering somehow. Yeah, well, you're gambling, right? You're gambling that something doesn't happen to you that's more expensive than all the payments you give me
Starting point is 01:07:00 every month for 10 years. Because I think if you start hitting in that direction of like ethical health care, eventually you're going to arrive at, oh, there shouldn't be health insurance. It should just cost what it costs. Well, it should probably be the same way we treat the fire department. But if we're going to do that and people say, what about all these people that are obese? What about all these people that are like eating bad food?
Starting point is 01:07:19 Yeah, we got to educate our society. We have to think of ourselves as a community, as a collective community, educate ourselves, and healthcare should be something that's paid for by the government. Insurance companies use artificial intelligence to automatically deny claims which you can raise concerns about bias and inaccuracies, which can raise concerns about bias and inaccuracies. If your claim is denied by AI, you can take steps to understand your rights and challenge the denial. Keep records. Document all correspondence with your insurer, including denial letters and any communication about AI.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Lawyer can help you understand your rights and determine if the denial was made in bad faith like, you're fucked. Yeah, for most people, especially people that work all day and you're dealing with this shit, you're fucked. people, especially people that work all day and you're dealing with this shit, you're fucked. I think this is in California. Landmark law prohibits health insurance companies from using AI to deny health care coverage. All right, that's great. Especially like using it specifically to deny. So that's California.
Starting point is 01:08:16 That's a great law. The whole country should adopt that. Using AI to deny. Yeah. I really think that the problem is that there's been a long history of profit for healthcare and that they go into it to profit. The real problem with that is you want, but you also want the best surgeons, right? You want the best doctors and they have to be motivated.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Most of them are motivated both by excelling in their practice and also by material possessions that reward them. Like doctors always have like a Porsche, doctors have a Mercedes, doctors have a nice house. Like you should be a doctor, Brian. You should be a doctor, a nice doc. Doctors make a lot of money. But they also have a fuckload of bills and they have a fuckload of insurance. Okay? So they have the problem with them is like liability insurance Like liability insurance for malpractice insurance for doctors is crazy expensive But don't doctors still make good money in they do but they're they're constantly moving people in and out of their office because they got A fucking heavy nut to cover every month Yes, United Health is facing multiple class action lawsuits over its use of algorithms,
Starting point is 01:09:26 its investment practices, and its treatment of patients. Algorithm use claim processing. UnitedHealth is facing a class action lawsuit over the algorithm it uses to process claims. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, monsters, monsters. But this is also because we've set up a system of profit now Imagine if that system of profit existed for the fire department Imagine if you had to pay fire department fees every month and if you didn't and your house burned they go hey Brian
Starting point is 01:09:54 We just checked and you don't have fire coverage and so that now you're fucked that sounds crazy. That's crazy, right? Yeah, I mean I So we agree that the fire department should be kind of a socialist organization. Yeah. Okay, why not healthcare? Yeah, that's how I feel. But then the problem is, you know, Dr. fucking Grossman, he wants a Ferrari. The baddest motherfucker for fixing knees.
Starting point is 01:10:20 He fixes everybody's knees on the Lakers. He wants some money. Give him a Ferrari. He's the best Yeah, but the problem with that is like, how do you pay? How do you like? How much does everybody get paid? Does the government just pay everybody the same way they're getting paid now or does it become like a government job? like, you know like you're a State appointed defense attorney. It becomes like the NFL. You know what I mean? Like not as motivated as some like super high powered
Starting point is 01:10:47 defense attorney that you know, handles huge cases and knows the law inside. You know what I'm saying? It's like who's gonna fix you now? Because like my friends in Canada, they say yeah, healthcare is free, but like one of my friends, she had to wait, my friend Jen, she had to wait like a year plus
Starting point is 01:11:03 to get an ACL surgery. And it's all fucked up still. So like for this ACL surgery, she's waiting like a whole year to get her knee fixed. I hope I'm not speaking out of school. I'm pretty sure it was close to a year. And so she's got a bad knee for a year. Whereas like in America, you're supposed to be able to go to the doctor. The doctor says your healthcare is up.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Yep, you definitely tore your ACL, Brian. Okay, well, good news is you're covered. You know, you have a deductible, but this is your deductible. Okay, we can schedule you for February 16th. This is what we need you to do. No aspirin, no this, no that. You know, don't eat within eight hours you get here
Starting point is 01:11:37 because you're gonna go under. They tell you, they prep you for surgery. Or they tell you all of that, and then they go, oh, actually, you not covered. Because you didn't tell us about this thing from, yeah, okay well I still need the surgery and I don't have $50,000. Right.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Like that's the shitty part. Yeah, cause there's some people that like, they are healthy and they take care of themselves and they pay their insurance and then, you know, they get a tumor or something, you know, unforeseen. Yes, 100%. And they're completely fucked. They're completely fucked. And it's like that shouldn't be possible. and then, you know, they get a tumor or something, you know, unforeseen. Yes, 100%. And they're completely fucked.
Starting point is 01:12:06 They're completely fucked. And it's like, that shouldn't be possible. Well, how about this fire insurance deal in California? What happened? Like, a giant percentage of those people that lost their homes in that fire, they didn't have insurance. These insurance companies pulled out a fire coverage. Oh, bro, did you also know there's fucking,
Starting point is 01:12:25 there's fires, the same thing's happening in South America and Africa. Yeah, this whole place is burning the fuck down. I'm shocked that I'm not hearing more about that. Cause you know, I only. Here's the thing about the fires. There's satellite video of those fires, all three of them starting at the same time you ever seen it. No, it's
Starting point is 01:12:48 super suspicious Super super suspicious There's satellite footage of all the three fires starting simultaneously. Yeah You want to see it? Yeah, you need to see it because it's so creepy. I think it was arson I think somebody did it whether it was a schizophrenic person that a firebug there's a lot of those people that are firebugs man there's people that are like actual arsonists and when you get into the conditions that happened in the Santa Ana winds when California's dry like you remember when it was well you were there in 2018 with
Starting point is 01:13:20 that big crazy fire right did you see any of that on the 405? Yeah was insane Yeah, and I remember there being a big one Probably like 2007 to or 2008 the thing is like it doesn't have to be some crazy Conspiracy like people think it's a conspiracy a land grab this whole thing. Maybe maybe but also people start fires It's a it's a known crime. In fact, one of the people that they arrested, he had a fake fire truck. So this dude was a known arsonist, I believe from Oregon. He bought a fire truck with a fireman's outfit and was going into these areas. That's actually hilarious.
Starting point is 01:14:00 And he's an arsonist. Like a known arsonist. So he's probably starting fires. An arsonist with a fire truck. How crazy is that? But some people are just out of their fucking minds, man. Including a lot of firemen. Like that's a problem with firemen. There's been firemen who have started fires. But it's wild that you,
Starting point is 01:14:19 I feel like if you go to prison for arson, like you purposely burnish it. If they let you out, they should at least track you like they track Piedos well you're you've killed a lot of people like if one of these if someone a human being was caught that Definitely lit these three fires that appear simultaneously if a human being did that they're responsible for I don't know how many deaths How many people died I think it's 25 or something like that. Yeah, 25 burned alive I think it's 25 or something like that. Yeah 25 burned alive Sure like you're in jail for the rest of your life for everything for the damage you're in jail for the rest of your life you you you owe
Starting point is 01:14:53 350 billion dollars and Counting it's 350 billion dollars of damage and Then all to Dean is gone and I'm they still having the Grammys or whatever. I don't. They probably are well. We did the UFC there. We did the UFC like in the middle of the fires. Oh Wow, I didn't think we're gonna do it I was like are we gonna do it here and Dana was like we're gonna do it the Clippers are gonna play there on Forget what day but earlier in the week and if the Clippers play we're gonna do it. Otherwise, they were gonna do Vegas They were just gonna move everybody to Vegas if it got worse Because they keep starting new one start. There's one now. There's one that's up in Santa Clarita
Starting point is 01:15:31 Somebody started one up there or something started one up there the 2018 They know was an accident because they know there was a part the part that cost one dollar that one part failed and it started a fire a one dollar part. Yeah, I think we're going to see more and more of this. It's getting hotter and drier. Well, they have to fix it. They have to fix it. You have to clean up the brush. You have to do what they did with the water,
Starting point is 01:15:55 where they opened up the water from the north to come flow freely down to the south and not divert it into the Pacific Ocean. They fill up the reservoir that you had that was 11 million gallons, that was empty, empty fucking psychos Like what are you doing? You clearly haven't taken the right steps if that can happen. It can be at least mitigated You're always gonna have those crazy winds. You're always gonna have arsonists You're always gonna have things that fuck up or something starts a fire accidentally
Starting point is 01:16:22 Don't they don't they do all that shit? they do like control burns and all that stuff every year? Fact check, old satellite footage falsely linked to 2025 LA wildfires? So what is that video of three fires starting simultaneously? Because people were saying it was the California fires. Is this the video? I don't know. It looks like it. This is just a picture, but this is from 2024's fires.
Starting point is 01:16:46 These are fires in a different spot than the ones that just happened. So I don't know if that's the one. It's hard to say. This is the caption from the post. So it's miscaptioned. So it's not true. What about the one where it shows
Starting point is 01:16:59 a person starting the fire? Because there is one video where they think that they have an image, an actual image of a guy starting the fire. Because there is one video where they think that they have an image, an actual image of a guy starting the fire. I think it was a person near it but I'll double check. Whoops just happened to be near it with a blowtorch. How about that guy? They caught that one guy and he's like I was just lighting my joint.
Starting point is 01:17:15 He had a blowtorch in his hand and they made like a citizens arrest. Yeah but he might have been telling the truth. Nope dude had been arrested like eight times. He had vandalism, all kinds of shit on his resume, violent crimes, I believe. That don't mean he was lying. Well, he was running around in a fire with a blowtorch. Hey bro, put that down.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Yeah, but how you gonna light your shit? A lighter? He said he couldn't afford a lighter. Bitch, a lighter is a quarter. Yeah, that's wild. I mean, it's wild to just carry a blow torch around. How much is a lighter? How much is one of them little Bic lighters? A dollar? Is that a dollar? Yeah, like a dollar. Maybe it's probably a dollar 20 something.
Starting point is 01:17:52 See? If it's made in America, it's going to cost more. All right? Otherwise, China's going to chop off our fucking supply of Bics. Who makes Bics? Am I guessing? See, in my head, I was thinking, you're in the house, you can find the light us. So you like I got a torch I'm gonna use that. I'm gonna run around on the street. But you saying he was like walking around outside They found him out where the fires were with a blowtorch and he said it was empty. He said Google it's empty It's like even if you're telling the truth like your stupid ass deserve, but also you inconvenience. Yeah, it was a criminal What was I just gonna ask you to Google? Trying to find a picture of the satellite of a person near the fire mmm started, but
Starting point is 01:18:33 Huberman film people starting fires Andrew Huberman He was driving down the street And he caught these guys starting a fire and filmed it put it on his phone So people are starting fires here cuz you got all these homeless people and crazy people and people that wanna burn it all down, man. And while the fire is going on, they feel like, fuck it, man, let's fucking, let's help this fucking fire. Fuck these rich people.
Starting point is 01:18:56 I mean, it's the palisades. They're like the richest people in all of LA. You think that's their motivations? Yeah, I think a lot of that for the arsonists I think it's a lot of it is like fuck society my life sucks I think a lot of people just there's crazy people like the guy from Oregon that are like almost like amateur Firefighters like amateur arsonist you see like they're that's their side project. You see she'll talk about it
Starting point is 01:19:20 I didn't man. It's the best one ever. Yeah. Easy. I know, I need to sit down and watch it. Everybody tells me it's awesome. It's the best monologue I've ever seen on SNL. Well, he talks about Palestine. He compares Palestine to... Yeah, he pretty much went through all the major things that's going on.
Starting point is 01:19:40 The Palestine thing is nuts. I watched a video yesterday of Gaza, and I don't know if you've seen like flyover drone footage What it looks like now? Nope You want to see it? Yeah, that's it. Oh, do you want to like live? No, I want to see it I never see shit like this. It's crazy. You shouldn't go looking for it. Good. I won't send it to you anymore
Starting point is 01:20:01 No, I don't mind people send me the news, but I just don't actively go seek it out This is so depressing. Because I'm like, if it's something I need to know, somebody will tell me about it. There's a lot of before and after videos where they show someone driving down a road before and they show what it all looks like now. It's like the city doesn't exist anymore. It's like if way bigger than downtown Austin wiped off the map Look at this
Starting point is 01:20:28 Yeah, this is crazy So this is flying drone footage over Gaza City and it's just everything's destroyed Everything's destroyed. It's like a like a nuke went off Look at this from the sky when you look at it, as far as the eye can see, just destruction. Everything's got a missile hole in it. Everything's collapsed. Everything's fucked up. Every now and then, one house or one building in between is untouched, but most of it is
Starting point is 01:20:57 fucking destroyed. If I was the guy who lived next door to that house that's perfect, I'd be like, who did you pay, motherfucker? Right? He doesn't even get blown up once this is crazy crazy and this is right now right now and somehow we're being fed that this is the only way to do this and then somehow I know this is acceptable to get rid of Hamas just to completely annihilate everybody.
Starting point is 01:21:25 I mean, the number of people that are dead now is off the charts. They don't even know how many. Bro, this looks insane. Insane. Insane. It's insane. And it's happening right now. This is how it used to look?
Starting point is 01:21:39 Uh-huh. It's what it used to look like. Look at that. Shops and cars. and now it's just Just destroyed everything destroyed. They bombed the fuck out of everything. Oh this shit make you feel something Well, this is like this is never coming back Like this is like they essentially like moved everybody out of there like who's gonna stay there now What is all of this? What is all of the is what is it? What there now? What is all of this? What is all of this? What is all of this?
Starting point is 01:22:06 Tents. Tents. Tents. Tents. Where people have to like stay in tents. And by the way, they might bomb those tents too. The whole thing is very scary, dude. Because it's it's just at a level of destruction that's impossible to say that you support it. It's like, this is insane. These are human lives. Like, how many people are dying here? Is this the only way to do this? Is this the only way to do this?
Starting point is 01:22:30 This seems crazy. And how did you guys get to this point? Damn, see man, see, this is why I avoid the news. It's because all the happiest, all the stupidest people I know are happy as shit. So I'm like, I just need to know less. Now I can enjoy. I think there's something to that,
Starting point is 01:22:51 but I think we kind of need to pay attention nowadays. I think things are getting real weird, real weird. Because you know what it is? It's the death of truth. Like it's hard to know what's true. You hear something, it sound true, and then you hear something else, they that's not true and and then both can point to the links and studies and you like I It's just stressful trying to figure out what's correct and what isn't yeah, that's on purpose. I know that's on purpose
Starting point is 01:23:17 That's they're doing a real good job of confusing people That's when I when I you know... And everybody thinks they're right. Everybody thinks they're right, yeah. And there's also a lot of stuff that's going on behind the scenes. Like a lot of the way stories are amplified is to serve as a distraction from other things that are taking place at the same time. Like they love to do stuff like that where they'll push out a story, like some inflammatory story.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Really the design of that story is to get you distracted from other things that are going on simultaneously. That's what I think a lot of this when I think about the UFO stuff I'm always like man this if I wanted something to distract the shit out of people this is a really good one. Not saying that that's what they're doing but it makes me... No you were about to tell me at the beginning they fucking they had a
Starting point is 01:24:08 They found a asteroid. Oh I did see it and it had like Most of the ingredients for life. Yes, like all the amino acids not all of them but like all but three and then all of a feel the big ass word just lady used but And then all of uh, I feel the big ass word just later used but It I think this was a theory before but it's becoming more and more likely that life was seeded by Asteroid asteroid or something. Yeah, that's a theory called panspermia
Starting point is 01:24:39 panspermia, yeah, and It also accounts for some things that don't fit in Like like psilocybin mushrooms like. There's something very alien about them that one of the things about spores is that spores can survive like almost anything. They could survive in a vacuum. They could survive through space. Spores are insanely durable. And if you have the potential for all of these amino acids and different minerals and and there was absolutely
Starting point is 01:25:07 Salt on that right wasn't there salt on that rock as well I don't know. I mean, I think there was a bunch of different elements of life on that asteroid and Why not spores and if you know? some Mushroom that grows on another planet where these human beings interact with nature through it then it just lands here on earth did you find it Osiris Rex mission so they found amino acids nucleotide bases minerals from salt water, and more. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:46 So that means it has all the building blocks of life and it comes from salt water and a chunk of it comes flying off. Isn't that nutty? Like, that's how a lot of things, they think that's like maybe how the water got here. That's one of the theories. That's an asteroid. Yeah, that like comets. A comet, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:03 That comets hit us and that's where we got the water. Is that a real theory still? Because they changed those. You know, like they look at them and they go, well, maybe. Like now they're wondering whether dark energy is real. They think maybe time moves differently in between galaxies. Like they've got some like new theory. Yeah, I've heard
Starting point is 01:26:26 All of it is like what are you saying or like okay? Oh that gravity is different in different places They think there's like that gravity and space-time Moves differently in the voids in between galaxies and planets Wait a minute who's saying that who's saying that? Who's saying that? Like what are you saying? That's what I'm saying bro. That's what it counts for the... I just need to know less because it's breaking my brain. That's why they're apart from each other. It's not that dark energy is pushing them away from each other. I don't know. Like this is the theory of like dark matter and dark energy. It's like 90 something percent of the universe is this theory Right, so what does that mean? So if it's not that then there's 90% of the universe
Starting point is 01:27:10 What it's like just space-time moving in a different way like what happened? Yeah, so I mean science has been kind of killing it. Well, they've got some new tools now like that James Webb telescope That thing's crazy When I first told you about it hadn't launched yet? And I was like, that's going to change everything. Well, I remember Duncan told me something about it a long time ago. He said they found something that they think
Starting point is 01:27:34 is at least 22 billion years old. They found some star cluster or something that they think is 22 billion years old. So it throws the whole Big Bang thing into a tizzy. Is he talking about the Methuselah Star? No. That's interesting too because the Methuselah Star is actually older somehow than the entire universe, which doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 01:27:54 It's like 14 plus billion years old, so it's like a little bit older than what they think was the Big Bang. But then didn't somebody recently, or not recently, but didn't someone say that it's still within the margin of error? Yeah, it's still within the margin, the Methuselah star is, but not this new discovery. So the new discovery for the James Webb telescope is they found galaxies that formed too quickly and they formed so long ago, like so far away because they could see bigger now, that it's changing like
Starting point is 01:28:25 there's two things possible maybe we were wrong about how quickly galaxies form maybe they form way quicker or maybe the universe is way older than we think it is so maybe the reason why these things exist and then you could find them and then although those things that like blink in and that they exist at one point in time and don't exist anymore they don't know what the fuck those are these red lights. There's red spots that they found in the universe but they think that It's very people are very reluctant to commit right because they don't really know but the potential is that the universe is not 14 or 13 point whatever billion years old but maybe as old as 24 billion years old
Starting point is 01:29:04 Or maybe the next time you come in here point whatever billion years old but maybe as old as 24 billion years old or maybe the next time you come here I want to be the next time you have one of these large crowds you want to be in here with me to your cock yeah cuz I love I'm fascinated by this kind of shit the problem with two people talking is like I gotta like lock in on these dudes I just want to listen yeah but you I'd want you to chime in to that just like with some of these people like you have to have one-on-one because even if I do a two guests like Everybody always has something cool to say right and then someone else is talking and you want It's hard. It's hard to like work it and when you got someone who's talking about something like very esoteric very difficult to grasp
Starting point is 01:29:44 You know, they're talking about like quantum physics. They're trying to explain to you the dynamics of these subatomic particles. Like, what? You need like one person just locked on. Every time I hear quantum physicists talk, I never understand everything they say. Bro, I barely understand a fraction of what they're talking about. Even when they talking about other shit. Yeah. Yeah, like.
Starting point is 01:30:09 They're operating on a different level. Like, let Eric Weiss try and give you a fucking recipe. Oh yeah. Jesus Christ, man. Weinstein's crazy smart in a spooky way. I know, but he's like, he forgets how much smarter than. Right. He'll talk to
Starting point is 01:30:25 you in a way that like you like I don't even know what you're saying. Yeah, bro, like I don't have that degree, bro. Yeah, well he has a theory of everything. I do not understand it at all. I don't know how many people could follow it. I don't understand it. But that kind of person that would sit around and try to create a theory of everything, he's of the belief that potentially we're looking at US made stuff that's like super advanced and that they've put a lid on it somehow. What would be the purpose of that? Because I think if you develop something in secrecy like they do all the time with like
Starting point is 01:30:58 the stealth bomber, all these different things, even the Manhattan Project, you develop things in secrecy and then there comes a time where you test them, you use them, you have them, but then are you going to admit you have them? Because then the enemy is going to infiltrate. They're going to find out you have them. There's espionage. They're going to steal your information. They've been doing that forever. We talked about these back doors that China has and all our electronics or potentially could have, right? How many things are vulnerable because of AI now? How many things are vulnerable because everything's attached to the right? How many things are vulnerable because of AI now? How many things are vulnerable because everything is attached to the internet?
Starting point is 01:31:26 How many things can be hacked? Who fucking knows? But the reality is we're in like a very uniquely vulnerable position in terms of if someone did have that kind of technology that could take over AI systems, that could kill the power grid, that could fly things through the sky autonomously, that move at speeds that are impossible to imagine with conventional aircraft, and can really, like you said, park it over the White House.
Starting point is 01:31:57 Maybe part of what he's saying is true. Maybe he really did write that. Maybe someone wrote that, and it's like some truths and some wacky shit to try to throw you off of the truth Which is also a strategy that gets used when you have something that's like a real conspiracy You know you do you attach it to a bunch of other shit like witchcraft voodoo fucking ghosts attached to stupid shit You make it sound crazy make it sound crazy
Starting point is 01:32:18 Yeah This these people came from the bigfoot as an interdimensional traveler who communicates with people telepathically. Add some stuff to it that just makes it stupid, but inside of it have like the truth. They definitely do that. They do that to make people's stories seem stupid when they go and tell them to the press. Yeah, I mean that's what I would do if I was in my interest to keep some kind of weird things secret. Tell people, you just gonna sound crazy? Well, if you were like. I'm like tell people you just gonna sound crazy Well, if you were like abducted by a UFO, you're gonna sound crazy What are you gonna do like you walk in the green room and you see and you see me changing heads?
Starting point is 01:33:06 Yeah, the the new alien Romulus, yes, have you seen the new one? Oh, yeah It was great. It's fucking actually I saw it. That was the first time I actually enjoyed One of those I don't know they call them 4d or d box with like they got the smoke and all that shit Oh, you went to one of those places. That's I saw that movie. Yeah. Oh That's a good move. Yeah, and the thing is it's not a consistent experience yet but that was the best one I've had so far especially when I felt when I realized like you could turn the water off cuz Cuz like when like the alien spray some of the shit get on you and shit Oh, it's like a spray from the ceiling and I was like, you know, I'm having a good time But I don't want to get wet. Can I turn this fucking water off?
Starting point is 01:33:42 Ha but you but you can I just didn't realize it for way too long. It was the first of these alien movies since the original that captured the spirit of the original one. Like the fear of going through the corridors, not knowing where that thing is, it hunting you, the way it got to those people. That was a good alien movie. I think that was the best alien movie since Alien 1. I think. Alien 2 best Alien movie since Alien 1. I think.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Alien 2 was like that, though. Yeah, but Alien 2, they were too easy to kill. I didn't like how they could just gun them down. But you're right. It was the same sort of, I don't know, Prometheus was kind of the same kind of spirit, too. Prometheus was pretty good. Covenant was better.
Starting point is 01:34:19 I liked Covenant. Covenant was really good. Michael Fassbender, he's the shit. I didn't like Prometheus until the second time I watched it. Oh yeah? Yeah, because this wasn't what I was expecting. But once I saw it on its own merit, it was good. I think Covenant's better.
Starting point is 01:34:36 Prometheus is pretty good, but they had this story to tell about seeding DNA and the fucking operators. Oh no, Covenant was the one where they landed. Yeah. Okay yeah that was great. The other one was there was the actual like human like aliens and their planet and they have like some war and they all die and this one guy comes to them. Remember?
Starting point is 01:34:58 These guys. Remember? That's Prometheus. I forget what they called them. Did they call them the operators? No. But there was, it was no xenomorphs. They didn't have a war they um They were seeding other planets. They're gonna do a Prometheus 2. It says no xenomorphs in Prometheus 2. Oh, they're gonna
Starting point is 01:35:14 Have a Prometheus 2. It's gonna be old articles. I'm just I hope they do another one Because you have like a whole universe of alien Possibilities now because they skip timelines and shit You know like this one they is like right after the Nostromo gets blown up and they find it and they find the dude You know you saw it. It's fucking good. Well. You know what was dope about aliens one and What was the one other the one Prometheus no no aliens to latest one oh God what did I call it? Romulus. Romulus. So what they had in common was like, the protagonist didn't know what they were dealing with.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Right. So that's what made it more exciting. Right, right, right. Because it was right afterwards. So people hadn't known yet. Yeah, and all the other aliens after that was like, so whenaver's like, I know exactly how to deal with these monsters. Exactly, right. Get away from her, you bitch. Please believe me. Yeah, when she's got the fucking robot suit on, I didn't like that either.
Starting point is 01:36:12 That thing would fuck her up in that robot suit. And then wasn't there one where like, she gave birth to one? Yeah. Sigourney Weaver was probably the first woman that was the badass in the lead of a science fiction action movie and it was 1979. Bro speaking of which, yo Charlize Theron, it's a movie on Netflix. I have no idea why it wasn't bigger.
Starting point is 01:36:41 It's called, like she's a mortal, can you look that up? She's a mortal. Can you look it up? She's a mortal Yeah, she's a she's a she leaves this team of immortals and they're like mercenaries or whatever So it's like a superhero movie kind of Old guard it's good as shit really yeah She's real good at playing like a badass. You know, she played Furiosa. She yes Well, she also played Eileen Wuornos that serial killer bitch. Yes. You don't Furiosa. Yeah, well she also played Eileen. We're knows that serial killer bitch. Yeah, she don't fuck around yeah, so She's a beautiful one and she gained like 50 fucking pounds to play that person really yeah She got fat shaved her eyebrows off look disgusting like Charlene's throne is beautiful. It's like stunningly good-looking
Starting point is 01:37:19 Yeah, I've seen her in person And then you see what she looked like in that movie like you know the kind of courage that it takes to do that. Oh, you never saw monster Monsters are great fucking movie. Shout out to my friend Patty Jenkins who made it But that movie was like no ladies do that like Robert De Niro did that, you know You know Marky Mark's done that they thought Stallone got fat for a movie they'll do that but like for her well bro crazy and she looks just like that lady but I didn't see this I was mixing this up with another movie called look I piss on your grave or something I was telling you before, you know what's good?
Starting point is 01:38:05 It's Nosferatu. Yeah, I'm gonna go watch it right now. I'm gonna download it for the plane, actually. I'm saying right now, it's the best vampire movie ever. Ever. The best vampire movie ever. That's a big statement. That's a big statement.
Starting point is 01:38:17 I'm saying it. It's the best vampire movie ever. It's the creepiest vampire movie ever. So you're saying it's better than Blade? Blade was awesome, but Blade was a superhero movie. More than it was a- So you don't count Blade as a vampire movie? It was a vampire movie in that the superhero
Starting point is 01:38:33 had to kill the vampires, but it's a Marvel comic guy. I've known Blade since I was a teenager. I was into Marvel comics. So Blade's a vampire movie the way that, like, Die Hard's a Christmas movie. Yeah, Blade was a badass martial artist who was half vampire, who was fucking up vampires use the day Walker it's a fun superhero movie more than anything but the movie wasn't
Starting point is 01:38:50 really about the vampires yeah right it was like they were the enemy and he was the good guy that was the movie the movie was essentially you know revenge they killed Riddler oh shit you know so what about like what's the one that the teenage heart the Robbie one to kind of ruin it? Oh Twilight. Yeah, that's bullshit. Do you consider those vampire movies? Yeah, those are vampire movies They're fun. They're fun. If you're a girl like there's a lot of stuff that girls like that I don't like I don't have to like it for it to be good Obviously it made hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars people love those movies
Starting point is 01:39:22 But you know, I'm not one of those people that's like, it doesn't have to be good for me to like it. Cause there's a lot of people that like bad movies. Right. I can't get with it. Yeah, I'm not a fan of watching bad movies, but Nosferatu is good. This is the trailer for Nosferatu? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:37 It's really good, dude. It's really good. Like, for real, like if you like a good old fashioned Harg vampire movie, and the dude who plays Count Orlok is the dude who played Pennywise in It. And it's the best vampire ever. They're probably not going to show you anything in the trailer what he looked like, but holy shit, dude,
Starting point is 01:39:58 there's this one scene where you get to see, like, his whole body naked when he rises up out of the coffin. Spoiler alert, it's insane. Where you get to see like his whole body naked when he rises up out of the coffin. Spoiler alert, it's insane. And not just creepy, but beautifully shot. Oh, I remember seeing previews for this. Oh, dude, it's good. It's good.
Starting point is 01:40:18 It's good. And they're not going to even show you, even in the trailer, they don't show you the vampire. And when you do get to see the dude it's incredible that's not real that is like some fan made shit there's a video where you could see him Google or lock so much of the shit on internet is bullshit I try not to spoil it for Brian what what he like? It's a big reveal in the movie. I don't know. Really? But it's based on the image, the way he looks, is based on the original Legend of Dracula, which was a guy named Vlad the Impaler. Oh, he was real? Yeah, this is what he looks like in this.
Starting point is 01:40:58 But you gotta see it, like this is a very toned down version of it. It's incredible. Like if you like a good scary horror movie, it's the best vampire movie. I love a reveal. It's a great reveal. It's really good. And they drag it out. Like you get to see them kind of in the beginning,
Starting point is 01:41:16 and then eventually you get to really see them. And you're like, oh my god. And this isn't my take. I've heard other people talk about it like this, but that's the other thing that made Alien great was like, before, it's like you don't always show the monster. Exactly, exactly. Right?
Starting point is 01:41:30 Cause it's like, cause, cause, cause, cause like, horror is like, seeing the monster and how much it's gonna definitely kill you. Yes. But like, terror is like, knowing that there's some shit in here and I don't know what the fuck it is. You need a little foreplay. Yeah, yeah, it's like I walk in. You need a little foreplay before you get horrified.
Starting point is 01:41:47 Why is Johnson dead? Yes. I was just in here with it, what the fuck, why the wall built it? You know, that's the shit that makes it good. Exactly, exactly. And this movie does it perfect. Jaws.
Starting point is 01:41:59 Jaws, yeah. That's why Jaws was such a hit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. Jaws was great, it still holds up. Predator still holds up. Predator holds up. Predaws is great. It still holds Predator holds up still holds up the first predator if it bleeds we can kill it My favorite light is with is when the jazz even Dura no no when they walk into the woods in the
Starting point is 01:42:20 Book he's making those he goes he goes you fuck this motherfucker Like he tell him like you make if you keep making noise, I'm gonna bleed you. I'm gonna like, leave you out here. I forget what the word is he used, but he was like, you telling everybody where the fuck we at? By the way, you moving, talking, tripping, sliding. Yeah, there's something about that, the idea that a sporting alien would come down
Starting point is 01:42:38 and hunt people that's uniquely scary. So many iconic scenes in there too. Oh yeah. The joint with a native dude is like, fuck it. Oh, yeah the joint where the with a native dude is like fuck it. Yeah My shit, I'm a cut my chair That that's a fucking dope one the the one where they were where Arnold and a Apollo Creed when they do this right here. Yeah, so this is was wow. That's a mean now
Starting point is 01:43:03 Yeah, right just but just their arms. Uh-huh And and a lot of people don't even know that is from predator. They just they just see that That's the mean right right right? Yeah, I've showed I've tried to show that to one of my nephews. He was like, oh, that's the That's like the cooperation meme or whatever the fuck they call they started getting silly with aliens versus predator Remember that they were doing that for a while But there it is. I'm here. I'm here for that. Oh, that's an arm wrestling senior predator. Yeah, that's it They're like this is how to badass to say hello. Yeah, they have arm wrestling in the air Though this movie was the dialogue is crazy that's back when Carl Weathers was jacked!
Starting point is 01:43:45 Yeah... Okay, okay, okay! You didn't know when to quit, huh? You didn't know when to quit, huh? What is this fucking Thai business? Oh, come on, forget about my Thai business. The way they acted back then was like it was a different form of language. It's like it seemed so fake.
Starting point is 01:44:01 If that was like a director today, like the same director that did Nosferatu. He'd be like cut cut What are we doing? Yeah, are you guys really meeting each other for the first time or is this like a play come on? Also convince me bro the run that Arnold had oh you did a gang of great movies like just actions like he's the Conan the barbarian you know was Conan. Conan the Barbarian. You know who was the best Conan though? Jason Momoa. What? Jason Momoa did a terrible Conan movie,
Starting point is 01:44:31 but he was the best Conan. Cause he was the only Conan that looked like Conan really looked. Like Conan was like super muscular, but he wasn't a bodybuilder. He looked like a killer. He looked like a UFC fighter. He looked like like Yuri Prohaska would be a good Conan.
Starting point is 01:44:44 Like that kind of build. Like a big strong guy, but not a bodybuilder. And also it's like the film was more stylistically appropriate to like the Conan lore. But what do you mean how Conan looked? In the books. Oh, I didn't know Conan was books. Oh, dude, I'm a super Conan nerd. A super nerd. So there was like a comic book before yeah, well was a book Robert E. Howard
Starting point is 01:45:08 he wrote books about Conan the Conqueror and he created this whole like world of Samaria where he's from and this whole lore of this one Usurper who rises and kills everybody and that's Conan and he keyslays dragons and monsters and demons and kills everybody, and that's Conan. And he key slays dragons and monsters and demons and, you know, I think he comes back from the dead at one point in time. Like, he's the greatest warrior of all time. You know what Conan was for me as a kid?
Starting point is 01:45:35 It was my first like John Wick. Right, right, right. Oh, this dude gonna fuck everything up. That's how the books were. The books were incredible. The books were written by a guy who lived with his mom and committed suicide. So the dude was like, he was getting, he wanted, his life sucked. He was super depressed.
Starting point is 01:45:55 And he got thrill out of imagining him being Conan the Barbarian and conquering lands and having sex with all these beautiful women and killing sorcerers. So who published the book? They came up after he died? No, they were, this is like in the 19... 30s. The 30s is when he wrote it?
Starting point is 01:46:14 Yeah. Yeah. It was a long time ago he wrote these books. And then they turned him into comic books in the 1960s? When did they start making Conan comic books? So then they had the comic books and then they had illustrated books and then I think that was the first Conan movie was Arnold. I think he was the first Conan movie and there's been a few attempts since then but no one has really captured the books
Starting point is 01:46:43 like stylistically except for like the Jason Momoa movie but the movie just wasn't that good just wasn't a someone needs to do you need like a real like a Robert Eggers the guy who did this Nosferatu movie that's his name right it's Robert Eggers right the guy who did the Nosferatu movie That guy it like that guy did a Conan movie. It would be sick, but it has to be like a Realistic movie it has to be a movie of this Realistic warrior encountering these crazy things. It can't be like cartoonish It can't be like I just have to believe this dumb shit. Too much suspension of disbelief. It's gotta be like a wild movie based.
Starting point is 01:47:27 The Northman. Oh, The Northman was amazing. Did you see that? Yeah, I saw that. That's exactly what I'm talking about. This kind of movie is exactly like what Conan would have to be. That movie's fucking great.
Starting point is 01:47:41 That's like one of the best Viking movies. It's not the best one ever. It's actually dark as hell. Really good movie. it's there's no good guys in that movie that movie's crazy and probably representative of real the real life of Vikings the way they really lived because they were fucking ruthless that movie's great but it's also got like a supernatural in it there's a lot of cool shit in that movie yeah I mean they believe in a lot of supernatural shit if that guy directed Conan holy shit then you would get to see like the real books because the
Starting point is 01:48:12 Robert E Howard books were great so the same guy did Nosferatu did Northman yes yes bro it's good it's fucking good no Nosferatu is one of the best movies I've seen in a long time it's great and it's so beautiful like the way it's shot is so beautiful There's a scene when he's walking up to the castle. It's the creepiest setup of all time. It's so good I don't want to ruin it. It's so good if you like those kind of movies. I love those kind of movies I grew up on monster movies. I grew up on like, you know, that's why I have that American werewolf in London out there I grew up on all of that here for monsters action revenge That's my kind of movies. No, it's for autos cinematographer promises Robert Eggers werewolf is unlike anything done before
Starting point is 01:49:02 Medieval werewolf movie. Oh boy. And the primary candidate has never been used in a film. What does that mean? Maybe the guy that wants to lead it. Oh yeah. Perfect. The actor, the subject, like the character of the movie. Oh, so it's a new character. He did the lighthouse too? Yeah. Wow. That shit was weird. And the witch. Wow, that guy's done some killer fucking movies. I'm excited about this werewolf movie. I've been saying that forever. Someone needs to make another good werewolf movie.
Starting point is 01:49:31 Like that Benicio del Toro one. Pacific medieval image or tale of werewolfry that's being clipped close to their chest. So it's like a story that hasn't been made into a movie yet. Yeah, but medieval. So like candlelight, spooky, it's gonna be awesome. Remember the Jack Nicholson werewolf one What was that called? Oh, yeah, that was terrible with uh, I know Michelle Pfeiffer
Starting point is 01:49:51 That was so stupid. They're like, ah, it looked just like a person I went and saw that my family went and saw that and I went and saw another a different movie It was the first time that we used to it was like a thing we did we go when it goes to the movies like every other week But my my father my step thing you fuck about no age limit another like you gonna see what we see No, this is the first time I'm like, I don't want to see that shit And I and I still end up going in there after my because my movie was over before this I think I went and saw um
Starting point is 01:50:21 To or something he's going chasing after this deer. I'm a wolf look. He just looks like a regular guy It's so dopey It's so silly Like look at this They decided to make a horror movie that wasn't that scary and he moves like the six million dollar man look slow motion jump obviously stunt man He's gonna tackle this deer and I'm supposed to believe this I'm supposed to believe that this dude Who just looks like a dude can run fast a fucking deer?
Starting point is 01:50:53 Look he's running It's so dumb. He's flying through the air Like how does becoming a human that's part wolf make you this fast when you look exactly the same No, he's gonna. He's on a tree. He flies. He grabs the deer So stupid it's so stupid Who the owls freaking out this is crazy. This is crazy Did you ever see the Benicio del Toro one? This is crazy. Did you ever see the Benicio del Toro one?
Starting point is 01:51:24 This is one good scene. One good scene when the doctors are examining him and they're trying to tell him that he's out of his fucking mind and the doctor's speaking in one of those medical theaters like they used to do in the 1800s. And he's explaining that this person has delusions and they think they're gonna be a wolf
Starting point is 01:51:41 and so we're gonna show him by having him tied to this chair while the moon turns full and we're gonna like cure him of whatever the fuck is wrong with his brain so they have him in this thing give me some volume on this a perfectly ordinary human being he will have taken his first small step down the long road to mental recovery I can just feel everybody's about to die He witnessed his mother's Showed up created a His father's werewolf yes give it had a little bit Tonight I will kill all of you! I will kill all of you! Yes, well, as you can see, my country is a disease of the mind, existing somewhere in the deep recesses of the system called resistance.
Starting point is 01:53:03 To him, it seems very real. me I'll see. Dr. Herneger? Arrives. Doctor! Doctor! Come on, let's go! One second left! Oh It seems to be locked I'm gonna kill you! I'm gonna kill you! I can't! I can't! I can't! I can't! I can't!
Starting point is 01:54:54 I can't! I can't! I can't! I can't! I can't! I can't! I can't! It's a great fucking scene. See, my only problem with it is it's not a scary enough wolf. It's not.
Starting point is 01:55:14 Everything else is great. It's not like American Werewolf in London. It's too much like the Wolfman, which is what it was kind of based on, like an updated version of the Wolfman. It's more like, uh. The same guy who did that makeup, by the way, did the American werewolf in London. That was Rick Baker. It was like the teen wolf wolf.
Starting point is 01:55:27 Was, right? Was Rick Baker that did that, right? Yeah, Rick Baker. So the thing is, though, it was not CGI. And that's what they were trying to achieve, because there's a difference between the way it looks. When it's a dude with a mask on, it looks more realistic. It doesn't take you out of it.
Starting point is 01:55:42 And there's something about CGI that even if the wolf looks good, it takes you out of it. Like the American Werewolf in London, you didn't get to see shit for like a long time. Like it was deep into that movie. You saw flashes of the wolf until it was in Piccadilly Square and started like killing people. Remember that? I spent a long time since I've seen that movie. The guy turns into a werewolf in the movie theater. He goes to a dirty movie theater. So he's in this dirty movie theater
Starting point is 01:56:07 and they're playing porno films and he's talking to his dead friend. He's telling him he's gotta kill himself. He's gonna become a wolf and kill people. And his friend is like rotting. It's hilarious. It's very funny. And he turns into the wolf in the movie theater,
Starting point is 01:56:18 kills everybody and then bursts out onto the street and starts killing people in traffic. And I do remember like there's a scene with a subway scene, right? Yes, this. I do remember like there's a scene with a subway scene, right? Yes, this is a subway scene where there's a businessman, he's trying to get away and he sees it like creeping up on him. That's a good scene too because you barely see the wolf. You see this guy running and you know that it's coming after him, you see the terrified
Starting point is 01:56:39 look on his face and at the end of the scene you see the wolf enter into the frame at the bottom of the escalator. Well, this guy's like completely exhausted and sliding down this escalator. Bro, you know the scariest movie I've seen recently? Well, I guess maybe scary ain't the right word, but it was the sequel to X. The sequel to X? And I'm forgetting the name of it. Yeah, not Malcolm X, but like, it's the same, but the same girl played in both movies.
Starting point is 01:57:03 You know what I'm talking about? It was called, uh, she was like a, okay same but the same girl played in both movies. You know, I'm talking about it's called But she was like, okay. Yeah, so the sequel to this movie. So what is X? It's about like it's a slasher film. Yes a slasher film Yeah, and the Latin but the sequel to it because I never saw that when I saw this Okay, I still haven't seen X so Maxine with two X's three X's no no that's not it's not Max oh I'm sorry I thought I had to screen up shit no
Starting point is 01:57:32 that's not it that was the sequel right here no no it's on there it's got that same girl in it who's this who's this no who's the star this Pearl that's what I mean so Pearl was a prequel okay so Pearl okay. So Pearl came outside. I saw Pearl before I haven't seen any of the rest of these. This shit is, I liked it. And she's a serial killer? She's insane. But it's like you kind of know she's the monster the whole time, but she doesn't become monstrous. It's kind of the same thing. And she's cute? Yeah, she's cute. She's adorable. Um, at first glance.
Starting point is 01:58:19 I wanna be special. Dancing up on the screen like a pretty girl's in the picture. I will not let you leave this I'm worried there may be something real wrong with me rumor has it they only take one gal her town We're looking for someone with X-Factor. It has to be me. How about a film nobody else has seen? Is it legal? Will be eventually.
Starting point is 01:59:01 I know what I've done. The other does make a huge mistake terrible awful murderous things I want to be loved from as many people as possible, but truth is I'm not really a good person Jesus Christ. Yeah, bro, like you want to talk about like a... This looks like psychotic. Like this bitch is just slipping into insanity further and deeper and deeper and deeper. I just don't think you should show this to America right now.
Starting point is 01:59:36 You know what I'm saying? Like after Luigi, after people celebrated Luigi, we don't want to like glorify people that just go on killing rampages. It wasn't a rampage. In fact, you know, that's the thing. That's the thing I respect more is that like the people that like shoot up a place It's like it's like if you mad at somebody go after them. Why you killing people that got to do with your beef? Right. At least he was like specific. He didn't like that's another one Then that's been memory hold the New Orleans guy just ran over all those people when the water's good you didn't hear about this no this was how long ago Jamie New Year's Eve they're like
Starting point is 02:00:13 within eight hours of each other this and so this New Orleans guy turns down Bourbon Street and just runs people over ran over like 200 people bunch of people got fucked up bunch of people died how many people died I think like 200 people were injured 14 people dead Or more he was in the cyber truck too. Yeah, and he was also No, he was around. Yeah, sorry not a cyber truck, but he was also one of the guys from Fort Bragg Like we were talking about a lot yesterday with Metzger Metzger will get you believe in conspiracies Bro Metzger will take you down some rabbit hole. He just hit you with so many though. So many in a row I can't even get like that's like his oh, you didn't know his entertainment. Oh, yeah, what's his life?
Starting point is 02:00:56 And I'm on a complete opposite end of the spectrum exactly. I like to hear people that's into it talk about it But I'm but I'm never gonna go look it up. Yeah Well, he luckily, you know Kirk gets it you like, dude, I can't right now. Hey, he'll stop. I can't. I can't do this right now. I gotta go on stage in five minutes. I can't hear how many people Hillary Clinton killed. I think he's probably is, is abreast at every conspiracy theory. Right. But he believes a bunch of them that are kooky. He and I have had some conversations about ones. I'm like, like, why do you believe that?
Starting point is 02:01:26 That one doesn't make any sense But because the primary belief is that the official story is bullshit a hundred percent So if you it was probably true a lot of right But the way you run into logical trouble is it's like just cuz they lie and don't mean that The first alternative that people give you is the truth. Right, like some kooky YouTube video. Yeah. That's got it broken down. So it's like, they don't want you to know.
Starting point is 02:01:50 I saw, bro, did you see this shit? You know, Godfrey? The comic? Yeah. So he had, I forget the name of the scientist, but he had like a scientist come on and debate Lord Jamar. Lord Jamar's a flat earther. And it didn't go well.
Starting point is 02:02:08 Of course it didn't. That doesn't make any sense. Was that that Professor Dave guy? Yeah, Professor Dave. Yeah, Professor Dave's done quite a few of those. He's doing the world a nice favor. Yeah, but it's like, bro, imagine that being your whole life is just opposition.
Starting point is 02:02:23 Well, to what? To bad science. It's to people getting led down a bad road and believing something that's uniquely preposterous. The Earth is flat. You know Christopher Hitchens, right? Sure. He made his whole career debating Christians and Muslims.
Starting point is 02:02:39 He would go to their churches and debate their leaders. And somebody asked him one time, hey, if you could snap your fingers and make all religion just go away, like, would you do that? And he was like, honestly, no. Cause I just like arguing with them too much. Or something to that effect, those weren't his exact words,
Starting point is 02:02:58 but it was like, I think you gotta be a special kind of person to be like, no, I want all the smoke. I wanna argue directly with people that I don't think. Well, Christopher Hitches was uniquely brilliant, and he was so good at forming arguments and sentences, and his grasp of the language was so expert. He was a great speaker. Amazing, amazing speaker,
Starting point is 02:03:22 so that he would have these conversations with these people, and they'd be woefully underprepared. And they just, they couldn't handle, he also has an incredible amount of knowledge when it comes to religion, whether it's Christianity or Islam and he'll call out everything that has ever happened that's terrible that every one of them has done and he knows that information at the tip of his fingers at any given time. I grew up religious and he was the one that made me be like, oh. He makes some very, very, very compelling logical arguments. There's also the problem with religion is that there's so many of them too, and they're so different, and they all think that
Starting point is 02:03:58 they have the right one. That's a real problem. But I think the desire for religion seems to be a part of the structure of our thinking. It's like one of those things that reoccurs everywhere there's groups of people. There's a desire for meaning, and then there's a connection to a higher power that we all seem to agree is not just likely, but you feel its presence every now and then. But also it's like we're puzzle solving creatures. Yeah. So it's like the need to have an answer to the puzzle. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:30 And also to have a daddy. We always want someone who is above us, whether it's the president or the mayor or your father, whoever it is. You want some person who's looking out for you and is watching over everything and has a plan for all of it. Wait until your God gets home, young man. Yeah. it is watching over everything and as a plan for all until your God gets home Yeah, wait do you God is watching jerk off? Oh man That that fucked me up for a little while when I was like, you know I was watching all the time because we used to go when I was little we I would get there was a church
Starting point is 02:04:58 There was also a school. I know they were a Christian school, but on Sunday They use a school buses to go pick up kids, just like school, but it was for church. And we got sent to that. It wasn't even the church my grandmother went to. She just sent us to this one. What is better, an overly religious childhood or a childhood filled with crime and violence? Clearly, overly religious.
Starting point is 02:05:24 That's better. Because you can learn your way out of some stupid shit that they talked you into when you were young, depending on what the religion is. But crime and violence gets you killed, someone else gets killed, you go to jail. It's not good. Like, it's definitely better in terms of like, what is more compatible with society to grow up very religious with very strict rules. And then maybe as you get older, you sort of recognize that. I mean, doesn't it depend on which religion? It does. It definitely does. It definitely does. I mean, you have some religious we get
Starting point is 02:05:56 a gang of wives who you get a pump. It sounds like more trouble than it's worth. Yes. Well, that's the reason why the Mormons moved to Mexico. They moved to Mexico. What you mean? You don't know about that? They're not in Utah no more? Listen, when Mitch, what's his name?
Starting point is 02:06:13 The fucking guy who ran for president? Oh, Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney. That's why I was fucking up. Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney's dad was born in Mexico. So his dad couldn't be president But Mitt was born in America Mitt Romney's family was Mormon and they moved to Mexico in the 1800s
Starting point is 02:06:33 because of religious persecution and part of that was polygamy They made polygamy illegal. So these guys will fuck it. This is like the 1800s They're like Mexico ain't no different than America in the 1800s before cars. Everyone's on a horse. You got a house. Whatever same shit Let's go to Mexico. They went to Mexico and to this day they have giant Mormon compounds in Mexico and then recently there was a situation like they're armed to protect themselves against the cartel it's like wild shit goes down and one of I think it was like a Family was killed. I think it might have been an accident
Starting point is 02:07:11 The cartel mistook them for someone else or someone did and there was like this real problem. I don't know what happened I don't remember how the story went down But I remember it was a big international story and then everybody was like wait what's going on? There's giant camps of armed Mormons in Mexico. You know, they don't fuck around like why did they why did they move to Mexico? And that's why they moved to Mexico because they have religious freedom And they know religiously in the forefront. I bet you the Mormons got an app. Oh, they probably have an app. Yeah, but like That's the story right that they were killed by the cartel. I think
Starting point is 02:07:45 it was a woman and her child was killed by the cartel. Six children. Oh my God. Oh my God. Attack on a group of Mormon families in Mexico. So nine women, scroll back up, uh, nine women and children from a Mormon community in Mexico were killed while traveling in the three car caravan south of the U.S.-Mexico border on Monday. Three women and six children, all with dual U.S.-Mexican citizenship, were killed in the attack, Security Minister Alfonso de Razo said in a news conference Tuesday. Here's what we know about the attack. The victims were all shot while in the vehicles while driving.
Starting point is 02:08:23 Investigators believe the three vehicles traveling between the Mexican states of Sonora and Chihuahua were ambushed by criminal groups Monday, Mexican authorities said. Women and children between 14 years old and 10 months were massacred, burned alive. LeBaron said mothers were screaming for the fire to stop. They were driving together for safety reasons, said Kendrick Lee Miller, whose sister-in-law was killed in the attack attack the family was supposed to go to Miller's wedding next week in Lamora she said. Wow. How did she know they were screaming? Was she there? I don't know man. I don't think everybody died. Five children who were hospitalized in Tucson will survive while Jessup whose son married Donna Langford's daughter told CNN, Willie
Starting point is 02:09:02 Jessup excuse me, three of the children have very serious injuries but two others could be discharged soon. And they weren't connected to that dope shit? They got to be. Well, I don't know. I don't know. Because they said it was a mistake of mistaken identity. I said, but they always say that.
Starting point is 02:09:17 A case of. Because listen, this is why that don't make sense to me. Oh no, no, no, they don't say that. It says it's not clear if the attacks were specifically targeted or if the family was a case of mistaken identity. You don't accidentally shoot the wrong caravan. I mean, what's the chances that another caravan looked just like yours? Well here's what it says.
Starting point is 02:09:33 It said, Castaneda said there were longstanding tensions between the families and the cartels. He said one of the women killed was an activist and there were frictions over water rights. Oh Jesus Christ. Scary dog. I mean, it's scary for whoever lived down there. Yeah. I feel pretty safe where I'm at. Yeah, but imagine living in a place that's controlled by the cartel. Like, you know, the government has its faults in the United States, but it's a superior system. But hasn't the Mexican government like started cracking down on the cartel? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:10:06 They did that shit somewhere. I mean I'm pretty sure the dude is a dictator but he just he just locked everybody up. Venezuela. Is it Venezuela? Yeah they just they they literally imprisoned all the gang members. They just locked every single even if he was if he was associated. They made these giant prisons and they just filled the prisons up with gang members and the stop the crime just stopped Mmm, but that was the immediate effect. Is that still the case then? I don't know. It's a good question
Starting point is 02:10:32 Like, you know, is that what they're gonna do forever? They're just gonna keep these guys in that cage for the rest of their lives That's expensive. It is expensive But is it less expensive than letting them wreak havoc and ruin your entire community? I don't know. It's a very totalitarian thing. That depends on who you give a fuck about. Well it's also depends on like how many of those people were set up?
Starting point is 02:10:51 How many of those people weren't actually in a gang? How many of those people were like maybe somebody doesn't like you? I mean, probably a little bit of that going on too. In that type of situation where it's like a drastic change and they rounding up hundreds of thousands of people, it's gonna be a couple of revenge joints slipped in there. Oh damn, sorry Jorge, I accidentally put. Yeah crazy. Oh El Salvador. It's not
Starting point is 02:11:12 it's not Venezuela. It's El Salvador. Look at that. Oh my god. They just said fuck it. We're just gonna take crime down to zero. So is this life in prison? Well you know what man, I mean is this better? It seems like it's better than having the criminals run society and kill everybody. I mean, but at least get them on some bicycles, provide them free power or something. I don't know. And what have they done?
Starting point is 02:11:35 But also, if you grow up in that community, what are you going to do? Like, if you grow up and your whole family's involved in the gangs, what do you do? Like, you're literally guilty by birth, you know? If you grow up in those communities and that's all they've been doing forever, what do you do? What do you do, you know?
Starting point is 02:11:53 How do you sustain that, too? Right. I guess if you have enough money, because now you don't have to fight crime anymore, so now everybody's locked up. It's dark. Well, it's just gonna be new criminals new criminals. What could fix the world, Brian Simpson? Is it going to be technology? Is it going to be mushrooms? You know my stance,
Starting point is 02:12:12 we done. Nothing's going to fix this shit, bro. We're cooked. We passed the point of no return. But why do you think that though? Because people can exist in small groups together in harmony. Why can't they exist together in large groups in harmony because I think people are less intelligent in large groups the larger the group the dumb of the dumb of the average IQ of it like in terms of like how people behave well I think also in larger groups you don't have to think as much because things are like set up for you and it's just, you know how I know we're doomed? Online gaming.
Starting point is 02:12:47 When you go play a team, I'm playing this Marvel rival shit everybody playing now, but it's like try to get matched up randomly with five other people and get everybody to cooperate. And how often you come across people that are just completely selfish, to the point where they'll lose on purpose. And they take the penalty for losing too, but just to ruin your day. completely selfish to the point like they'll lose on purpose.
Starting point is 02:13:05 They take the penalty for losing too, but just to ruin your day. Well that's just randoms that you're meeting online though. Right, but I mean... You gotta cultivate. Or you see how people communicate. And obviously gaming is a certain demographic, but I just mean... In cells. It just reminds me.
Starting point is 02:13:19 No, it's not in cells. It's regular people out there that just act like assholes when they're anonymous. Yeah, of course, because they can. So people will do selfish shit? Or you see these game shows where it's like, it's that whole, what's it called, the prisoner's dilemma or whatever? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:35 We can all win or I can win. And how often do you see people just go fuck all of y'all? And they probably encourage you to do it because it makes for good TV. And I know, look, there's good people out there. I meet extraordinary people all the time. Now, especially now that I live here. I meet people all the time that's like, wow, you,
Starting point is 02:13:50 like if it was more people like you, we would be good. But it's so little people like you. Right, but how many people like that do you know now? You know a lot, right? You know a lot more. Not enough. Yeah, but you know a lot more. And the key is just to try to limit your associations with people who aren't exceptional. Try to be exceptional first
Starting point is 02:14:09 of all to attract exceptional exceptional people and then kind of like encourage other you got to surround yourself with people that are cool like surround yourself with people that are interesting surround yourself with people that are exceptional. It gives you like energy in this life it gives you like motivation some friends are worth making some new friends are worth making but I know what you're saying I know I can make a new I'm very emotionally unavailable so I just need friends that don't need that you know I mean that's interesting you say that because you're very friendly. I don't know why you think you're emotionally unavailable. I think you just don't like to be bothered by nonsense
Starting point is 02:14:50 that people could fix on their own. There you go. I'm very easily irritated. Yeah, but it's not, you're not emotionally unavailable. Like when we talk about stuff, like everybody talks about stuff in the green room, you're like one of the most like honest people when we talk about this. Maybe emotionally unavailable is not the right word, but I'm very, I feel very much burdened by unexpected obligations. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:10 So like, if you hit me with some last minute shit, or you're like, or you constantly need me, cause I'll be there for you. But if you're constantly needing stuff, and it's good to die, I just. Exactly. But you gotta realize that's a transactional situation. I know.
Starting point is 02:15:25 That's a bad situation. That's not a situa- you haven't surrounded yourself with people that are like autonomous. Yeah. There's a lot of people that aren't. They like need friends for everything they do and they can't make decisions. They don't get their shit together. Bro, you know what? I love being by myself.
Starting point is 02:15:39 I love going to a restaurant alone. I love company too, but I'll go to the movies alone. I like being alone. I like shopping alone. Well, you have a balance. You spend enough time in front of thousands of people. Because you know what I don't like? I don't like variables.
Starting point is 02:15:55 It's like the more people that come, the more shit can switch up, the more shit can go wrong. That's true. And also, you get all these social dynamics at play when there's a bunch of people together. How many times have we eaten dinner? What would you say is the perfect amount of people to bring to dinner? It depends.
Starting point is 02:16:12 There was this one time, I don't wanna say the time, but where there was a bunch of us and a bunch of other people, and it really helped that there was a bunch of us because we all huddled up together. Oh, right, right, right. Remember that time? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:22 Oh, and don't forget, Vegas was great. It was a lot of people at that table then. Oh, yeah. But we knew all those people. Right, right, right. Remember that time? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and don't forget Vegas was great. It was a lot of people that table there. Oh, yeah Yeah, we knew all those people right right right, you know, those are people were like close friends It was a good time. It was it wasn't like there was no social dynamics at play You know when we're all hanging out, it's generally just fun There's no like one person is trying to get to the top. Yeah, comics are different Yeah, but I say but just, six is for me. Six is a good number.
Starting point is 02:16:48 If I hear that it's gonna be more than six, now it's like, it's gonna be separate conversations. And it's gonna be. And what if Bob can't drink? What if Bob starts drinking and gets real loud? Right, man, you need vegan options. Someone's non-gluten. Gluten-free, please, do you have a gluten-free menu?
Starting point is 02:17:05 Yeah, but yeah, I just don't like being in big groups. Right. I know what you mean. I get it. I get it. It's like, you know, like you're in a group of people and then one person has a friend that they tell you is cool. Don't worry, Bob's cool. Like, bro, my middle name could be who all gonna be there. Right. Bob's cool. My middle name could be who all gonna be there, right? You invite me to something cuz cuz even now like my like Derek and them they'll invite me to stuff You know, they know I'm not coming. Right? Oh, yeah, dude comes to the But that's also like a reflection on your sense of humor because you're always finding things that are stupid and everything
Starting point is 02:17:40 Your is essentially let me tell you about some stupid shit Your act is essentially a little... let me tell you about some stupid shit. It's a gift of the curse. Oh, it's a gift. That's what I say, like ignorance is bliss. If you... when you notice too much, you can't be happy. You can't possibly be happy. Or you gotta distract yourself with like... you can be happy for a second when you're on a drug or having a good time. But eventually you go, how did that fucking helicopter crash into a plane?
Starting point is 02:18:09 Yeah you think about all these different variables. You know I used to say that to my students when they would fight because a lot of them that were really smart, I would notice they would be much more nervous than the dumb kids. Martial arts. What do you mean? Of course it's martial arts, but my dumb ass, my mind went to like you, you be teaching in the classroom like a professor?
Starting point is 02:18:36 Oh, and they would fight? No, no, no, no. I mean, I'd take them to tournaments. So I had students that I would take to tournaments and the really smart ones would be the most scared. And I would have to tell them, it's because you're smart. The reason why you're scared is because you're aware of all the variables and you know you're vulnerable.
Starting point is 02:18:52 Whereas dumb people don't think that. They're overconfident and they're not aware of all the variables. But you can overcome this. I'd be like, I did it too. I have the same feeling. I don't want to do it. It's stupid.
Starting point is 02:19:02 Why am I doing this? Why am I risking my health? Why am I risking my safety? You have all those thoughts that are going to go in your head. I don't want to do it. It's stupid. Why am I doing this? Why am I risking my health? Why am I risking my safety? You have all those thoughts that are gonna go in your head But you're gonna learn something about yourself from doing this and you're smart and that's why you're nervous and you should be nervous Good. It'll help you. It'll help you move faster I used to use custom autos expression the custom on are this great thing. They told Mike Tyson He said fears like a fire it could cook your food if you can control it, or it
Starting point is 02:19:25 could burn your house down. That's what it's like. But the intelligent people are the ones that are aware of it. The intelligent people are the ones that oftentimes struggle the most with overcoming anxiety to compete. Because they're aware of how fucking dangerous this actually is. They're not blissfully unaware, unaware like a moron is walking into a cage fight Not knowing they might get knocked the fuck out, you know not gonna happen to me, bro There's a lot of those not gonna happen to me bro guys Yeah, but you can still be world champion and be that person Oh, well if you're gifted right if you're gifted and if you're genetically gifted, you know
Starting point is 02:19:59 And if you're you're driven and you really work hard and you enjoy it. Yeah, you could get pretty far You're not gonna talk. Well, you're not gonna speak well in like at the it. Yeah, you could get pretty far when you're not gonna talk Well, you're not gonna speak well in like at the end. Yeah, and it's gonna be rough because it's amazing to me like that's another like we talk about like a see if they like that, but but MMA wise John Jones is like Equivalent to Floyd Mayweather in terms of like how little damage he's taking over. Yes There was a few fights where they were real rough. The Dominic Reyes fight was real rough.
Starting point is 02:20:27 He got hit a bunch of times in that fight. The first Gustafson fight. He got caught a few times by Leota Machida before he put him to sleep. Leota was catching him a few, he hit him with one big left hand. Rashad Evans clipped him with a big right hand. But for the most part, John is the very best
Starting point is 02:20:40 at utilizing distance and also having a strategy. He said that was the hardest he ever got hit, Rashad Evans. Rashad, yeah. Well, Rashad knocked Chuck Liddell out cold with that punch. Remember? Yeah. Out cold, one shot. Was that the first time Chuck Liddell got knocked out?
Starting point is 02:20:54 No. Chuck Liddell had gotten stopped by Rampage and Pride. Okay. And then, Chuck Liddell, I mean, he'd been stopped a few times. No, I mean, like, but after his rise. I think Shogun stopped him. No, because Rampage stopped him during his rise.
Starting point is 02:21:09 Like, Rampage stopped him when the UFC, when he was a champ in the, or maybe he wasn't the champ. He was like the best guy or one, like, he was like Tito was the champ for a little before Chuck fought Tito. And everybody knew that Chuck was gonna beat Tito. It was one of those things where like, this is a bad matchup,
Starting point is 02:21:24 because Chuck is a really good wrestler and just a ferocious striker, ferocious and so aggressive and just nasty power and just would throw himself into the wars, throw himself. He had an iron chin. So you just fuck you. We just throw himself and really skillful to man like underrated skills, but just a desire for the firefight that was like nobody else but rampage beat him rampage stopped him in pride so they had an exchange where they
Starting point is 02:21:52 were going to send ufc fighters over to um over to pride to fight the best pride guys and chuck was one of the best ufc guys and rampage stopped him and uh chuck foughtistair over him and Alistair over him was doing really well, but Alistair Damn Chuck stopped Alistair. Just that this though rampage used to yeah. Oh, bro. This was when Chuck was Chuck, right? This is not like past his prime Chuck. This was like in his prime Chuck, but rampage was fucking ferocious he was so good and pride had knees to the head on the ground, all this s**t. And Rampage eventually, I believe he stopped him with like body shots on the ground if I remember correctly. I remember he just beat him up and then they stopped the fight.
Starting point is 02:22:36 I think he just got on top of him at one point in time. It was a grueling f**king fight though, but I think this is like the end of it right here. He was just beating him down and eventually they stopped the fight. fucking fight though but I think this is like the end of it right here he was just beating him down and eventually stopped the fight so these punches to the face and then just dig into the body tiny that referee is I know and then it looks like he got on top of them yeah you got full mount and then they stopped the fight Yeah. That was Rampage in his Prime.
Starting point is 02:23:07 Rampage in his Prime was mother fucker. I saw a video of somebody talking shit to him. Like one of the young fighters now talking shit to him. Oh, it was Kevin Holland. Yeah, Kevin Holland and him had some sort of a disagreement. Yeah, so they don't get that, he don't get like legend status like where you got to let his alive? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:23:24 Young guys are, you know how they are. Because that's like, that that's like like if Randy couture say something out of pocket, right? Right fighter like you kind of got a slide. He's a legend rampages a legend You know, it's like there's a lot of guys you just keys, you know We talk about BJ Penn talk about him with respect Yeah, cuz it cuz it cuz like it doesn't it doesn't look good No, you bargain with especially like I'll fight you right now like that kind of shit Like right that's not a good look. Yeah, especially the guy like paved the way like rampage was this was like when rampage fought Chuck what year was that was that like 2003?
Starting point is 02:23:56 What year was that? I'm a guess I'm a guess oh five was it 2007 Yeah, the rampage knocked Chuck out that was like oh this was in the UFC though, that Pride fight was different. Yeah, well Rampage knocked Chuck out. That was like 05 probably. In the UFC too. Rampage caught Chuck with a right hook. 2003. So then they fought again in 2007, is that what happened? Show that one.
Starting point is 02:24:20 Yeah, Rampage knocked out Vandale Silva. He lost to Vandale Silva twice though, brutally in Pride. One of the fights was fucking brutal. Brutal, brutal knockout. He got kneed in the face and went through the ropes unconscious. So this is Chuck and Rampage in the UFC. This is when Rampage won the title. And you know, Chuck had already fought him once and got stopped so he was wary but this is when this is
Starting point is 02:24:48 way past his pride right no he was in his prime man he was still in his prime he was the champion Chuck was the champion at this point in time but but rampage was fucking good man he was fucking good and just so dangerous boom and I was saying he's a funny guy and I remember he's very funny I actually interviewed him on I did that UFC show for a while I forget what it's called but it was a we hung out together we rolled we did jiu-jitsu went got something to eat. But he's very funny dude. He used to have this crazy monster truck. There it is. Boom. That's how you win the title.
Starting point is 02:25:44 Yeah, that was awesome. That's how you win the title. Yeah, it was awesome. Chuck's confused, but you know, that's what happens when you get knocked out. You don't know what the fuck happened. You think you're fine. Really? Yeah, you don't know what happened. You get shut off.
Starting point is 02:25:56 You're like, what happened? Like sometimes guys get shut off and then they dive for the referee's legs and they think they're still fighting. They take the referee down. I seen a dude swinging at the ref. Oh yeah, they don't know what's happening. I mean, a lot of these guys are on like full fight or flight after they get tagged.
Starting point is 02:26:11 They're just in, it's just chaos. They don't know what they're seeing. Referees get hit all the time. Yeah, that's why I was like, look how tiny that, you saw how tiny that motherfucker was? Like what you gonna do? What are you, what are you stopping in there? Right, how are you gonna get rampaged off of Chuck Liddell?
Starting point is 02:26:24 I feel like Herb Dean like dive it, motherfuckers right right move them. Well, you got herbs a big guy You know, that's what you want or a strong person like you Don't ask you politely Imagine like Francis is fighting as Francis fights. How are you gonna get Francis off somebody? Right, like how are you even gonna move him? And it's like there's no way that like her being stronger than Francis and don't know impossible But it's like but you got to be strong enough that they feel you like gonna move him? And it's like, there's no way that like, Herb Dean's stronger than Francis Ngannou. Impossible. But it's like, but you gotta be strong enough that they feel you, like, just snapped him at it, you know?
Starting point is 02:26:49 Yeah, you can't be 125 pounds and refereeing that fight. No! I thought that was a woman at first. Mark Goddard's good too, he's a big dude. Mark Goddard? Yeah, he's great for those big fights. I don't think I've ever seen him in person. Oh, you've seen Mark.
Starting point is 02:27:00 I met Herb Dean. He's one of the best referees. The best referees, I mean, there's quite a few of them that are really, really good, but I always say the gold standard, Turb. He's the gold standard. And Big John, when he was doing it, he was the gold standard.
Starting point is 02:27:11 He stopped? Yeah, he does commentary now. John does commentary. Well, he's doing it for Bellator, but I think Bellator is now no longer. So he also has a podcast with Josh Thompson. Who's that one referee that Dana White hated? Steve Mazzagati.
Starting point is 02:27:24 Yeah. What happened to him? Is he still reference? I don't know I haven't seen him in a while cuz they got some at a kickboxing event many years later He says like that dude's never gonna work again Like that's why I should to say in the mean it. Yeah people make mistakes You know, yeah, but what did he what was his fuck up though? He fucked up bad He fucked up a few of them there's a few of those guys that fucked up a few too many fights and Then they just you know, you just can't after a while
Starting point is 02:27:50 We need someone reliable when you got a guy like Mark Goddard who almost never fucks everybody is gonna fuck up They have the second hardest job. The first hardest job is the fighter second hardest job is the referee Third hardest job is probably the judge My job is the referee. Third hardest job is probably the judge. My job's easy. Yeah, and the ref, the ref is, they can only see from one angle. Uh-huh. Yeah, but we miss shit all the time and we have monitors. At least the refs have, or excuse me, the judges have monitors now. They didn't used to have monitors. In the early days, we had a fight to get them monitors. We're like, we should be able to show them stuff in the replay that the crowd is seeing. Because sometimes
Starting point is 02:28:28 you think a guy got knocked down, but he didn't. He just tripped. And it looks like he got knocked down, but it really, he just got punched on the shoulder and they just fell down. That happened in that fight with Islam Makachev and Moikano. Moikano caught him with a right hand. It looked like he hit him we thought he dropped him but really what happened is he kind of hit him in like the shoulder and They tripped legs together and Islam fell down and then Islam got we thought he was hurt So if you were judging that mean Islam finished him in the first round he subbed him in the first round So it didn't matter
Starting point is 02:29:00 But if you saw that fight and if that went to the distance and you said, oh my god He's hurting him. He's he's he's rocking him on the feet You would maybe score that round from Waikano when if you saw the replay, oh, he didn't rock him. He just slipped So you have a monitor can they hear you all too? No, they shouldn't be able to hear us because Maybe bias. Yeah, maybe we frame it in a way that's different than the way they think it the whole reason to have three different point Of views is to have three different expert perspectives You don't want them hearing what me and DC are saying, right? Right, you want them like watching the fight because if we're on someone's nuts, you know, and then this guy's like, oh he definitely
Starting point is 02:29:38 He's winning, you know, and maybe the people at home are like fuck you the other guy was winning I think there's a few of those fights Yeah, some were It's been a while. No, it hasn't since it was like a really questionable one You know, what's an interesting one not a questionable one, but an interesting one is marab versus umar So marab dwarves willy and umar number germanoff they go to the distance five round fight Marab winds up winning a decision. Those are not saying car. Yeah amazing fight amazing. Probably the best 135 pound title fight in the history
Starting point is 02:30:10 of the sport. It was incredible. It was so well matched. They went back and forth. Umar apparently broke his hand in the first round. We're still throwing it for the whole fight. He wound up taking Marab down and nobody expected that. He got Marab's back. He won the first two rounds and the question is the third round. And so I watched it a couple of times, and me and John Anick and Daniel Cormier have been going back and forth with text about this. I was like, man, that third round is so close. It's so close. I could see judges giving it to Umar. He landed more strikes on the feet. He did get one takedown. Marabas got a couple takedowns, but he didn't do much with the takedown But Daniel had a really good point that at the end of it Marab's was
Starting point is 02:30:49 Accelerating and it looked like Umar was starting to get tired. See I thought see I tuned in at that point I started that pay-per-view at that third round Yeah, so I hadn't seen the previous two rounds, but at the end of the third round, Umar has Marab's back. He's behind him and he's controlling him against the cage. And he had wound up taking Marab down at one point in time. So it's like, he landed a lot of strikes on the feet. Like probably did more actual damage, but Marab did take him down more
Starting point is 02:31:21 and Marab was pushing the pace. And Marab did also land shots like it was close. It's the third round that's the real close one because I gave the first two rounds to Umar and then you get into the third you're like oh that's the one that one's close because the fourth and the fifth were clearly Marab was coming on strong. Marab was like it was it was astonishing his endurance, astonishing. His fucking cardiovascular system's off the charts. It was a good ass fight. His cardio is fucking insanity.
Starting point is 02:31:51 It's insanity. It's like Michael Chandler. But I would be very happy to see that fight again. Very happy. I never see Michael Chandler get tired. Incredible. Remember his last fight when he lost. With Olvera, yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:02 Yeah, but he's sitting there standing up with a motherfucker on his back in the last round. Yeah. Like, I never see him get tired. No, he's an animal. Well, he trains like nobody. I mean, his strength and conditioning routines, you can watch them online.
Starting point is 02:32:14 They're fucking crazy. Cam Haynes went and trained with him once. Said the guy's a maniac. But that's his weapon. Like, to have that kind of cardio, that kind of discipline to have that kind of cardio. Some people just wire different, man. It's also the work ethic, man. You have To have that kind of cardio, that kind of discipline, to have that kind of cardio, that work ethic. It's also the work ethic, man.
Starting point is 02:32:28 You have to have that work ethic. Because he's been doing it for a long time. And to still have that work ethic. That's what I mean. Even the best people in the world, they get tired of it. Yeah, he's not tired of it, man. He's definitely not tired of it. He's still exciting.
Starting point is 02:32:42 Olivera is one of the best in the world. He had Olivera hurt in that third round He had him hurt like he had some moments in that third round were like holy shit Like this is a real fight and Olivera is as good as it gets He's one of the best submission artists in the history of the sport and he couldn't get him Got him in the first fight though first fight he KO'd remember hit him with that clean left hook. I don't remember Chandler had him real hurt in the first round though. First fight he KO'd him, remember? He hit him with that clean left hook. I don't remember. Chandler had him real hurt in the first round.
Starting point is 02:33:08 Rocked. On his back, fighting him off in the first round. And then they start the second round, Chandler moves straight to him and Olivera just pieces him up. Oh yeah, I do remember that. Oh, he hit him with a clean left hook. It was clean. I think I was there.
Starting point is 02:33:22 You might have been there. Yeah man, we had some good ass fights this year. And now, oh, and now Crawford's about to fight. Yes, he's going to fight Canelo. Oh, man. I just hope he's big enough. I hope he's big enough to keep that dude off him, because Canelo hits so hard, man.
Starting point is 02:33:41 That's one dude that, like, I believe all the shit he be talking. Crawford? Yeah. Oh, he's good. He don't just be saying shit. They tried to say that, like, Errol Spence was damaged because of what Crawford did to him,
Starting point is 02:33:52 because he was damaged from the car accident. I'm like, maybe. Or maybe Crawford would have done that three years ago. I think he's that good. He's just so skillful. He's so slick. And when he gets you, and he's also the best guy in the sport at
Starting point is 02:34:05 switch hitting. He'll go from Southpaw to Orthodox and be just as good and trip you up. Like you're thinking he's going to start Southpaw, he starts Orthodox. You prepare for Orthodox, he's fighting Southpaw. He feels like he's got you timed better Orthodox, he'll switch it up. You know, super accurate. Oh, just knows so much about boxing about where to be and what's coming and He makes it just he makes it. He's a he's a strategist. That's also entertaining. Yeah, you know me He's an artist. I remember like a young like young bhop. Yeah Yeah, just so sharp and made it look. Yeah entertaining. You know, I mean Roy Jones in his prime. It was art You were watching art. He's piecing up people. It was an art form
Starting point is 02:34:46 Alright Brian Simpson, let's wrap this bitch up bring it home Everybody you're BS comedian on Twitter BS comedian on Instagram Comfor tour tickets Netflix special live from mothership BAM streaming right now. That's it. Thank you, brother Thank you What I. Later, man. Thank you. Oh, you know what? What? I forgot to talk about. What?
Starting point is 02:35:09 I wanted to thank you for sending people to go watch that clip of WAP on YouTube. Oh. I got a lot of... One of the best videos, one of the best bits of all time. I love that. All right. Go see it. It's on YouTube.
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