The Joe Rogan Experience - #2272 - Mike Benz
Episode Date: February 12, 2025Mike Benz is a former official with the U.S. Department of State and current Executive Director of the Foundation For Freedom Online, is a free speech watchdog organization dedicated to restoring th...e promise of a free and open Internet. www.foundationforfreedomonline.com For a FREE trial and 10% off your first Squarespace website or domain, visit www.squarespace.com/ROGAN This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Get working on a better you with therapy. Visit BetterHelp.com/JRE today to get 10% off your first month. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The Joe Rogan experience.
Good to see you.
Great to see you.
I've been looking forward to this one.
Me too.
All night I was like, ooh, tomorrow's going to be a good one.
For you, it must have been very exciting to have the vault opened and to get a peek into
the machine because you've been describing this the last time you were on the podcast,
you went into depth about USAID.
And it's very curious why they chose USAID as the first organization for Doge to investigate
because it seems like they were the ones that resisted the most.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you know, the joke that I tell here
is it's like what they tell you to do your first day of prison
is you go in, you walk up to the meanest, baddest SOB,
and you punch them right in the mouth.
I mean, that's basically what's happened here
with the White House's first target being USAID.
Because USAID opens up the entire world
of the blob of the foreign policy establishment
and its weaponization of what are
supposed to be foreign facing Department of Dirty Tricks
operations against domestic opponents.
And when it all got opened, and you started to see the numbers
and the different organizations and NGOs that were getting them
was anything surprising to you? Or was this all what you
expected?
No. In fact, I think we're at the tip of the iceberg and what people are going to see on
this is going to completely reorient their mental map of how they think the world works,
how they think American power projects into the institutions.
And I think the calls for reform are going to get louder and louder as people realize the reality that's been constructed around them is downstream of something that was started very long ago when American statecraft to manage the American empire for the benefit of the American people
began to warp and distort every institution in American life, from the media to now the social media companies,
to the unions, to the universities and academics,
to the NGOs and think tanks, to the prosecutors,
to our conception of terrorism,
to our conception of activity in the drug trade,
to our everything you know what what we're
really doing with public health programs and and the medical establishment and
what drives that you know all the way into poverty relief and you name it I
mean every institution is instrumentalized by this apparatus supposedly
to help us but really starting this has been done in US history before, this happened against
the left, against the Democrats in the 1960s and 70s when the CIA and
to an extent its sister orgs like USAID and whatnot were pumping money
into domestic politics to stop the anti-Vietnam War movement. And this led to
the reforms of the late 1970s, the Church Committee hearing, the Pike Committee hearing, the establishment
of a Senate Intelligence Committee and House Intelligence Committee for oversight. But
even that was a very small glimpse into the window. The analogy I give here is like the lion,
the witch, and the wardrobe, you know, the Chronicles of Narnia, where there's this whole cinematic universe.
You're living in this house, and there's this closet
in the back of a wardrobe, and if you never walk through it,
you never see that whole world.
You can live your whole life without seeing it,
but when you open that door and you step into it,
you see there's an entire other universe here
that's been right next to you this whole time.
When you first started working for the State Department, did you have any
inclination that you were gonna get involved in? Did you have any inclination that
this was going on? Like did you know already? Yeah definitely. You already knew?
Yeah definitely. I had already been working on this for many years. When did
you first discover it? Around August 2016. I was deeply passionate about the internet censorship issue.
I had some weird experiences playing chess as a kid where I sort of came of age when
Gary Kasparov lost to Deep Blue and AI took over, you know, really took the spirit out of a lot of a lot of the
chess world. And it was apparent to me as a kid that these AI sensors, these AI chess
engines were going to outcompete humans. But when I was young, the sort of older people
in the room were in denial about it. And when I saw that same thing in 2016 with the the development of AI
censorship super weapons, you know, I, I call those weapons of mass deletion that they would
be like weapons of mass destruction, but for speech, you know, a few lines of code would allow you
to destroy entire political movements, governments, narratives, there'd be no escape from it. We would permanently change the face of political warfare
or domestic politics.
You don't need a standing army of 100,000 censors
if you just have one machine learning, just ingested database
of 900 million tweets that you can ingest
and then make this
sophisticated narrative network map of all the different keywords and
concepts you want to censor. And to me that was like this
free speech version or the censorship version of the atom bomb. So I started
that quest in 2016, but very quickly that research and the process of
trying to
write that showed these international networks immediately. I mean the NLP, the
natural language processing sort of backbone of this was all being
sponsored by DARPA and to be able to monitor the speech of ISIS or extremist
or terrorist groups. And when I saw that coming home and being advocated here,
I spent my whole day, morning, noon, night,
20 hours a day basically, chronicling, archiving.
That's how I know so many of these characters
is because I feel like I know them better
than my own friends and family,
having spent so many years watching this all develop.
What did it feel like being one of the only people that was sounding the alarm for essentially
eight years? Like you get involved in 2016 and no one even the general public until you
came on this podcast, I don't even think we're aware that this was an issue at all. But even
then things got lost so quickly in the cycle
of news, things just come and go so quickly until Doge started unraveling all the spending.
And you start seeing things like $200 million allocated to transgender experiments on monkeys.
Like what the fuck? Like this is crazy. And that's just a tip of the iceberg.
And then the NGOs and then that map of 50,000 NGOs that was essentially just democratic
propaganda machine that was exposed. It was all just money being funneled in a circular
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There is a sort of, I understand the weight of history here.
We are doing open heart surgery on the body
of the American empire, our influence abroad.
And it has to be done well.
And so I want to help the American homeland and so this is a
sensitive process but you know obviously it's it's been a bit surreal seeing the
past couple weeks where people are now I go to my ex timeline and I see everyone
doing the same exercise that I gave up everything to be doing eight years ago
going into you know because all this stuff is open source
You didn't need to be an inside guy to see this if you knew where to look. These are USA spending.gov
You know, I used to joke is the main difference between or was I think until freedom opened up when Elon acquired X and a few
Institutional changes began to happen
You know in the government and with Congress.
But I used to joke that usaspending.gov was the main difference during the height of
this censorship total control era was the main difference between us and Russia and China,
which was that we have this autocratic control over
information and institutions by the US government.
So do they. The difference is, we can go to usaspending.gov
and look up how they do it.
And so when I've been going to my ex timeline
and seeing everybody independently doing that exercise
and finding the joy in that, the self-discovery process,
and being able to share it with people,
and everybody being able to understand
and make sense of the receipts because
You know this framework for understanding it has been has been shared and popularized
That to me as
Has been the goal all along to be able to give people the language and the frameworks to understand
what is so terrifying and
Necessary to reform,
but that's right there in front of your eyes
if you only open your eyes to see it.
It's gotta be exciting though for you to be there
on operation day when they are doing the open heart surgery.
It is, it is.
We need to make sure that the patient doesn't die
on the operating table.
Just because it's the right move to do the open heart surgery
because the patient needs it,
doesn't mean that the operation goes well
if the operating surgeons don't know the anatomy
of the organ they're operating on.
And so that I see right now is sort of my prime function
is to just teach more and more of the anatomy of the organ
so that the people who are operating on the patient, the
the American homeland and generally speaking the the American influence and
power projection into foreign countries comes out better, smarter, a little bit
more honest and there is a hard domestic firewall against our
foreign-facing dirty tricks criminal penalties against against agencies who
who go against this civil penalties so you can sue both the agencies and the
NGOs who are sponsored maybe with treble damages in a bill from Congress so that
if USAID in whatever form it continues to take,
whether that's at the State Department or whether it gets rolled back out into
another independent agency, that you could sue the agencies as an individual
if you've been, if they've broken that domestic firewall so that there's an
incentive at the agency on their own budget to tightly oversee these things.
There's so much that can be done to bring this in line
in a smarter and more moral and frankly more effective way
and that's the task right now.
I think one of the most offensive things to Americans
is that all this was being done
and all this money was being spent
while they were denying money to people
that clearly needed it, like particularly
victims of natural disasters like Maui.
The fact that they're spending all this money on those things and yet they gave those people
a one-time check of $770 or something along those lines.
Right.
Well, this gets to the fundamental heart of the breach
of the social contract that this thing was always set up
to do.
It was really set up in 1948 when George Kennan created
this NSC 10-2, this National Security Council.
We completely reoriented the structure of the American
Empire in 1948 after World War II. In 1947, we passed something called the structure of the American Empire in 1948 after World
War II.
In 1947 we passed something called the National Security Act.
That's what established the CIA.
That's what established the National Security Council, which coordinates all of our foreign-facing
empire management work.
It renamed the Department of War to the Department of Defense so that it didn't look like we
were acquiring territory by military force, which had just been banned under international law under the UN Declaration
of Human Rights.
And so we moved from primarily kinetic warfare into what George Kennan called just two months
before he created the national, the plausible deniability doctrine that we live under.
He called this organized political warfare.
And he has a great memo from April 30th 1948
it's just 12 days after the CIA's first operation first first time it ever
overthrew or rigged the election of a foreign government this was the April
1948 election in Italy that pitted a pro-western a pro-western candidate
against a sort of pro-soviet candidate. And so the US State Department felt it was essential to hit the scales of that election
because it showed that the pro-soviet candidate was winning 60 to 40.
This is all declassified and all the major people who are involved in that operation
have all come out and said this publicly.
But so basically we threw together this ramshackle effort to tilt that election by pumping in
propaganda, by using charities and churches as fronts to funnel money into the pro-Western
political party.
We piped in the Greg Garbo movies and whatnot.
We worked with some very seedy elements of Italian society there.
We worked with the mafia and we worked with mafia connected unions because these were all assets for
the War Department during World War II because Mussolini was cracking down on
them. So the War Department had a relationship with these organized
criminal networks to serve as a beachhead against Mussolini but we kept
those relationships in order to run this pro democracy regime change thing so in 1948 when we established the secrecy doctrine
doctrine that we now live under and all these NGOs work under this cover
effectively because of their sponsoring organizations USAID or CIA or state and
he called it the inauguration of organized political warfare and what he
said is we need to create a covert apparatus to hide what we do from the from the rest of the world to do secret
political warfare on the low and the problem is is the American people are
not going to like this the American people do not understand the intricacies
of international relations they think there's always an easy political cure-all
and they do not understand they think there's a fundamental difference between peace and war and what he proposed is and this is just two months
before this before this would formally be given to the CIA to do but at the
time what he said was this was this work gangbusters in Italy we need to
replicate this everywhere we need to create a capacity to do black propaganda
to do economic
sabotage, demolition. There's a whole list of what's authorized under NSC 10-2.
And what he says is the American people are not necessarily going to
like this and we're going to need to effectively hide what we do from them
because if they find out then the rest of the world finds out. If we're trying
to run an operation in Eurasia and we report this in US News well then any person in
Eurasia who reads US News now knows about it and so that was authorized at
the time with some simultaneous with the Smith-Munt Act which I'm not are you
familiar with the Smith-Munt Act is that the 2011 2012 thing where Obama allowed
people to use propaganda against United States citizens yeah that was what was
done then under Obama
was the effective repeal of it.
It was called the Smithmont Modernization Act.
But the modernization got rid of the whole purpose of it,
the firewall, because at the time,
the media and media control was seen
as the linchpin crux of winning the Cold War
piping in pro-us
media influence to so that the because everything moved after World War two from kinetic warfare and
Military occupation and we used to militarily occupy the Philippines for example after we won the Spanish-American war
But that was that was banned under international law
territorial acquisition by military force in 1948. So we had to win
elections and and we had to influence the the passage of laws in foreign
countries by having an apparatus inside those countries that influenced the
hearts and minds of people which influenced who they voted for which then
determined the government. So you had to move towards political vassalage
rather than military occupation.
And what the Smith-Munt Act did is simultaneous
with the creation of this in 1948,
Congress recognized the Frankensteinian monster
they were creating by authorizing a covert,
permanent Department of Dirty Tricks,
and this is their phrase, not mine,
to do this cloak and dagger,
to infiltrate and co-opt the universities, tricks and this is their phrase not mine to do this cloak and dagger to
infiltrate in and co-op the universities the unions the media the politicians the
judges the whole swarm army you know what I have been calling for a long time
the USAID Truman show because you know these people in these foreign countries
have no idea you know how many how many of the things they interact with that
are effectively a movie set being constructed by the US State Department
and its sister influence orgs. But the point I'm getting at here is the Smith
Mundt Act in 1948 said, okay, you guys can do this. State Department can do this.
CIA can do this. USAID, when it came along 13 years later, could this but weak so there was a guy named
Frank Wisner who was known as one of the godfather figures of the CIA he's known
for creating what was called the Wizner's war let's er which was a it's
like a church organ and that he would brag that he could play the international
media like a symphony to make any media narrative go viral in any country on
earth because of the
suite of CIA proprietary media functions and its distribution network,
especially when the US had first moved for advantage in radio and print. It's
basically the US and UK were the only games in town really in having robust
radio, film, TV, and print media. So the Smith-Munn was said, okay, you can do that abroad. You can
plant fake news stories in France. You can, you know, you can have propaganda blare into
Africa or Western Europe or Central Asia, but that can't come home. You can't sign up
our own people with your propaganda organ abroad because the point of authorizing this is that we get
cheaper gas, we get import export markets, you know, we get
a high standard of living because if a foreign government
doesn't want to give up its resources or allow a US military
base, or allow joint partnerships or exports of goods
or US multinational corporations to operate there,
then the American people suffer economically.
So it was always designed to say,
listen, you can do this dirty stuff abroad,
but it can't come home.
And even that protection, which lasted for 70 years,
and we only lost it a decade ago,
we're up against a much actually deeper darker problem with this USAID scandal and as people will see
increasingly the scandals that will break open at the Pentagon and the State
Department which is that we have a Smithmont problem for funding and
operations. It's not just propaganda. The blob blob our foreign policy establishment can fund groups that
effectively work with prosecutors domestically or that or that work at media, you know dual sort of dual use
We give them foreign grants to do media propaganda abroad
But they operate here or social media censorship to coerce foreign countries to pass foreign censorship laws
That explicitly and are intended to attack us social media companies and in us peer-to-peer speech
So we need that protection
if we're going to keep this function at all, we need a hard firewall and
absolute grotesque penalties for any violation
so
when you're watching all this unfold,
one of the things that I've been seeing
is that there's been legal action
to try to halt some of it.
They've been told to destroy any information
that they got from certain databases.
Like what's your take on this
and whether any of that is gonna hold up Oh 100%
Well 100. I don't know if it's gonna hold up. I think it's gonna be a legal dogfight. This is
You know, it's funny because it's sort of a circular dragon eating its own tail because you're going after
The primary soft power projection organ of the blob because it's been weaponized against Americans.
But what is the blob authorized to do?
What is USAID authorized to do under statute?
Well, something they call judicial reform,
which is USAID poaching, funding financially
the networks around judges, around courts,
around the legal system, around the governance structure of every
country on planet Earth. I mean, and Jamie, if you want to just go through a fun
exercise right now, you can even put on screen just a simple Google search so
people can see just how open source this is and I can walk through specific
damning examples of this. But if you just type in on Google the word USAID and then in a Boolean quotes,
judicial reform.
And what you're gonna see are basically a hundred countries
that USAID is going after the judges,
going after the legal system in order to rig the scales
of justice in favor of the foreign policy establishment's interest there.
And this has this has fully come home and I can go through some examples of this. For example,
there's a group called the OCCRP, which you can think of as the Corruption Reporting Project.
This is a group that half of its funding comes from USAID and the
US State Department. OCCRP has to, USAID and the State Department have a
veto right over the staff that it can hire. This is the largest consortium of
investigative journalists on planet Earth. This is the group that broke
the Panama Papers, you know, they got all these hacked documents,
they got special access to it.
I don't have any facts on this.
I'm simply noting that it's an oddity that a group funded by a major CIA funding conduit,
USAID, while the CIA has the ability to hack, you know, any target around the world that's authorized
by the National Security Council.
You know, they're getting these special access documents
that are reportedly either hacked or leaked,
and they're being sponsored by, you know,
the group that's connected to something
with a hacking power.
But I don't know that for a fact.
I'm simply noting that for investigative purposes
for oversight bodies who may want to ask questions.
But they, so they've won hundreds of awards.
They've, their name has been so pristine for so long,
they've been around for almost 20 years,
and they were sponsored in order to do,
they do investigative hit piece journalism about corruption.
And what they do is they go after all of the state
department and USAID and DOD's opponents in the region. So for
example, Jamie, I text you this beforehand but if the first thing you want to put on
screen are the first two images that I texted you, this is from the USAID.gov
website and I think this will shock people when they see this on you know with the USAID.gov URL right there and
so that you can you can see how yeah so if you go if you go to the the first
page that I texted that text to you and then we'll get to this one. Okay I'm
sorry the second one then yeah okay so here it is this is USAID's strengthening
transparency and accountability through investigative reporting program okay Yeah, okay. So here it is. This is USAID's Strengthening Transparency and Accountability
through Investigative Reporting Program. Okay. What you'll see here is you'll see the life
of activity. This fund is, they are still being funded through this grant. And this
is for Europe and Eurasia. And you'll see the countries, Eastern Partnership, Armenia,
Belarus, Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine, and Western Balkans. If you scroll down, you'll see USAID spending, USAID funding is $20 million.
$20 million that our taxpayers paid to every, listen, they don't report on kittens being
saved from falling out of trees.
Everything they do is a hit piece about an instance of corruption that can be used by prosecutors in the area to arrest the
political opponents of the State Department. And what you'll see here is
capacity. Now this is the phrase everybody has to know, capacity building is what
this is all built under. That means pumping up the blobs assets. Whenever you
see the word capacity or capacity building, it means this thing is useful
to us. The more money we give it it the more powerful they are to project our influence and so so if you if you
scroll if you go back to that that page which is page two of this USAID you think
is we see so for 20 million dollars of of investment from from USAID here are
the and this is live on the website and find this in the way back machine right
now because the USAID websites down this is this is live on the website and find this in the way back machine right now because the USAID websites down.
This is this is USAID the US government bragging about the achievements of what they achieved
by spending 20 million dollars at least 4.5 billion in fines levied against targets of
these hit pieces.
Now by the way I should note that the head of the OCCRP was busted in a
in a major documentary that is very little distribution by encourage
everyone to watch where he said because this was this was a this was a I think a
year and a half ago one up but it was they're up to over ten billion dollars
now. What's the documentary? It's a it's on the WikiLeaks X page right now it's
by a group of German journalists
who had one-on-one interviews with the head of this group,
OCCRP, as well as the USAID grant coordinator and others.
And so it's straight from the horse's mouth.
And they say, he says in that interview,
I believe his name is Drew Sullivan,
that it's now over $10 billion.
And he brags that that is a I think he
said it was a 20,000% return on investment because all these dollars were
quote returned to government coffers so for 20 million dollars of of mercenary
media for the state state-sponsored hit pieces the government's got ten billion dollars back.
That's pretty good.
That's a 1995 Amazon level return on investment.
But now, let's get into the darker stuff.
548 policy changes by the government
or actions by civil society and the private sector.
Now we don't know if these policy changes are good or bad.
Do you think USAID would list them as accomplishments
if they were not in furtherance of USAID's
or the State Department's foreign policy goals in the region?
What they are saying and trying to sort of speak through their teeth,
as they say it, is that they proudly sponsored hit piece journalism
to ruin people's lives and go after political targets
in order to change the policies of foreign governments
from the inside.
Now it goes on to say 21 resignations and sackings,
including of a present Prime Minister.
Now the head of OCCRP in this documentary
openly says that
that they're reporting cause i think it was five or six different governments
to topple and turn over
and be transitioned
proudly so that so this is state sponsored media hit pieces so that
prosecutors can rest presidents and prime ministers
to regime change their government and install a more
pro u s political vassal figure in the region ministers to regime change their government and install a more pro-US
political vassal figure in the region. And then the last one is 456 arrests and
indictments and this again is listed as a USAID achievement. We don't know what
these people did. We don't know you know whether they're whether they're guilty
or innocent or whether or not these were political prosecutions like you see
right now with the New York District Attorney's offices which is a whole
another USAID connected can of worms but these are state sponsored hit pieces for
hire in order to get the give the Justice Department's the prosecutors in
a region the ammunition to arrest the enemies of the state the prosecutors
don't have the capacity to do a whole investigative journalism dig. They might not have access to hacked
documents that, for example, the CIA, the NSA, or deeply connected political
insiders might be able to give to a group like OCCRP. Now, now USAID gets a
veto right over who they can hire. OCCRP has to submit an annual work plan to
to be submitted to and reviewed for
approval by the State Department and USAID and here's the kicker of it all
USAID dug up, I'm sorry, OCCRP paid for by us, US taxpayers, dug up dirt on Rudy
Giuliani's work in Ukraine. This is because you know this was part of the
2019 impeachment and you know Rudy Giuliani and his work in Ukraine. So they went and dug up dirt on Rudy
Giuliani, a domestic U.S. citizen and high profile political figure, actually attorney
to the U.S. president. And then that dirt came home and was used as part of the basis
for the 2019 impeachment of the sitting president president Donald Trump. That would have never happened unless USAID sponsored
that, that hit piecework. And then they did the same thing with Paul
Manafort because it's the same foreign policy blob that went after Trump in the
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The lawfare against Giuliani is interesting.
Like, what is the case that he lost?
It was in Georgia, and he was accusing these women
who worked at this election facility
of something, some improprietary.
Right. This is a different case than that because that you know this was related to the 2019
impeachment and all the Ukraine kerfuffle around the you know the quid pro quo call allegedly that
President Trump made to President Zelensky, which by the way we should get to USAID's role in the
process in the Joe Biden quid pro quo side of
this in a second.
But that case, I believe, related to two workers in Georgia, and it was related to the whole
investigation of election fraud and whether or not there may have been fraud perpetrated
in the Georgia election.
I believe it was either 2021 or it may have been,
I'm sorry, 2020.
I'm not, that case I'm not deep in the weeds on,
but I have to say this as well.
And Jamie, I don't know if the whole audience
is familiar with this clip,
but it's an incredible scandalous clip.
Do you remember when Joe Biden
was at the Council on Foreign Relations familiar with this clip, but it's an incredible scandalous clip. Do you remember when Joe Biden
was at the Council on Foreign Relations and and bragged that he got the top
prosecutor in Ukraine
fired by the Ukrainian government because he explicitly conditioned the firing
of the prosecutor who was investigating Barisma,
he expressly conditioned their receipt of a billion dollars in U.S. financial assistance on the firing
of Victor Shokin, the prosecutor,
and he said, well, son of a B, he was fired.
And-
It's so crazy watching him brag about that publicly.
It just shows you what an idiot he is.
You know what that billion dollars
in financial assistance was?
It was a USAID grant.
Yeah, it's the carrots and sticks.
And it's like- Find that video, Jamie,
because it's a shocking video.
And it's just the hubris and the ego
that someone has to have to speak of this publicly
while it's being filmed, not just publicly,
not just in a room, not even just saying it out loud,
but saying it in front of the
Council Foreign Relations backdrop.
And actually, before you play this,
can I make one quick note for the audience
that everyone can look up publicly?
The Council Foreign Relations,
I'm just about to text Jamie another thing related to this
that I'm gonna pull up the USAID grant related to this, that I'm going to pull up
the USAID grant so that everyone can see this billion dollar
USAID grant that he's referring to here
and what's in the grant details.
But when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State
running the State Department that USAID answers to, right?
USAID is independent but guided by the State Department.
Because it's a State Department function,
it has to advance US interests.
Well, when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State,
Council of Foreign Relations had just opened up
a D.C. office, they're New York based,
and she went over to them and she made a speech
and she said, thank you, Foreign Relations,
for opening up your D.C. office.
That way I don't need to travel all the way to New York
to be told what to do.
I was the head of the State Department.
She really said it like that? Yeah, everyone can look this up. That might
not be verbatim, but that was the... it was as explicit as that, effectively.
But if you want to play this... I remember going over convincing our team,
or others too, convincing us that we should be providing for loan guarantees.
I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev, and I was supposed to announce that
there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee.
And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action
against the state prosecutor, and they didn't.
So they said they had a – they were walking out to Prescott and I said, no, I said, I'm
not going to – or we're not going to give you the billion dollars.
They said, you have no authority.
You're not the president.
The president said it.
I said, call him.
I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting the billion dollars.
I said, you're not getting the billion.
I'm going to be leaving here.
And I think it was, what, six hours.
I looked at it and I said billion I'm gonna be leaving here and I think it was what six hours I look at I said I'm leaving in six hours if
the prosecutor's not fired you're not getting the money. Oh son of a bitch
got fired and they put in place someone who was solid at the time. Solid. So they
made some genuine substantial changes institutionally
and with people.
Yeah, so there's two things to immediately
follow up on that.
So Jamie, I just sent you two things over text here.
The first one is the US is that billion dollar loan
guarantee, and then I sent you another one
about securing commitments and then
It's just wild that someone would be so
Brazen to talk about that so publicly
That's that no one's gonna look in at someone that was solid. What was wrong with the first guy? Let's go into depth
Well, the fact that you wouldn't think like maybe someone's going to investigate what was the first guy looking into. Oh, why was my son running Parisma? Like what is going on? Why is he making $10 million a year there? What is going on? What is this?
Well, okay. So this was a billion dollars. Okay. So this will actually go to the, go
to the yellow. Okay. We'll start with this. Okay. So here's from USAID. USAID announces
now this is again, the, the basically the final months of the Obama administration.
This is right before the November 2016 election.
USAID announces a billion dollar loan guarantee.
Remember, he referenced the loan guarantee.
By the way, do they pay these loans back?
Well, depends on if they play ball or not.
This is another one of these things, right?
If you're a good boy and you do what the blob tells you to do,
maybe we can be flexible on loan forgiveness. You know,
maybe maybe we can allow you to punt punt the default, but you'll see it's,
it's a bit, but these are the carrots and sticks.
This is why we infiltrate and co-opt these institutions and why you have a
$44 billion annual slush fund around the world to do this. But you'll see,
it's the issuance of the billion dollar loan guarantee to the governing of Ukraine and
it's to support the implementation of governance reforms so it's for it's it's
for the the we condition it on you changing the policies of your government
and this is already 2016 after we installed a coup yes in 2014 yes yes and remember the last time I was here
We went over the 2019 Zelensky's first month in office the red lines memo
You know talk about how do you how do you prove you're a good boy?
Well when you get the red lines memo that you will suffer political instability unless you do the 25 below listed policy things
with your government
You know that factors into what the US ambassador in the region
will tell their Ukrainian or other government counterparts.
Loan guarantees and whatnot are conditioned on.
But so if you go to the,
you'll notice that Biden there
used a very specific phrase there
about securing commitments.
I don't know if everyone caught that.
I wanna note the similarity of that to. If you go to the the other screenshot
Jamie that text you here. I'm sorry that my my mug is on this I just pulled this
up. What are you doing with your lips? Yeah I know. We'd been talking right
before we started filming about about just throwing receipts up on screen.
This is just a live stream series that I do on X and so I thought that's just
your mid words. I know but this is 1.5 series that I do on X. And so, but that's just- They caught you mid-words. I know, I know, but this is $1.5 million.
So, USAID has given $27 million in grants to the Tide Center,
which is the 501C3, is the fiscal sponsor
that gives the 501C3 status
to the Black Lives Matter Global Network
and to a group called Fair and Just Prosecution,
which is
basically manages prosecutors who are simultaneously funded by the Open Society Foundation.
They work with Alvin Bragg and Letitia James and all these other ones.
But you'll see here in this, this is a $1.5 million grant, you'll see that exact phrase
that Joe Biden used about securing commitments from governments to
fight corruption. So sometimes this diplomatic statecraft, this strong-arm
pressure, is done directly by the vice president. Sometimes it's done by
interlocutors like our state-sponsored NGO swarm who allow our ambassadors and
allow the White House
to maintain a layer of plausible deniability,
that it's an intermediary saying it,
and they can say much harsher things
than what can be conveyed and may be used against you
in a formal diplomatic channel.
And I said one more thing, Jamie, if you pull up,
if you go to my X feed and you just type in the phrase,
USAID barisma, because this is another element of this.
Again, how is this all weaponized at home and whatnot?
So Victor Shokin was investigating Burisma.
Joe Biden personally weaponized USAID
in order to force a foreign country's prosecutor
to be fired in order to get that billion.
Can I stop you for a second?
What was the investigation of Burisma?
What did it entail?
I believe it was a similar corruption probe,
that there was misuse of funding.
All this stuff is well documented
in Miranda Devine's book, The Big Guy.
But if you open those four screenshots, I don't know if you're able
to center it or zoom out a little bit.
Western protection is a great fucking title.
Yeah.
USAID to help young Biden.
This is in 2014.
Hey, remember when Hunter Biden's permanent blanket pardon goes back to?
It goes back to it goes back to 2014 right and so so this directs
USAID to guarantee loans so it's loan guarantees for every phase of
development of oil and gas in Ukraine Moldova and Georgia now if you go to go
to the next screenshot in this this is from this is a you know a a foiled or legally obtained internal document at
the State Department which says despite his ruin name in Ukraine, Zlachevsky is
actively campaigning for he's been sending letters to ambassadors Yannik
Yovanovich and Piot. They note that Hunter Biden and Devin Archer are on the board.
And they say, internally, at state,
USAID does have cooperation with Burisma.
Says pre-existing, small scale, pre-existing cooperation.
They're formally cooperating with Burisma in the region.
They're noting that.
And then if you go to the next screenshot,
now this again is State Department email traffic that's been on
earth. Okay, so they're talking about doing co-branding with USAID and
Burisma and the public-private partnership around USAID and Burisma, but
then noting, quote, the very sticky wicket of the Hunter Biden connection on Burisma, but then noting quote, the very sticky wicket of the Hunter Biden connection on
Burisma's board. And then they go on to say that,
you know, they want to create incentives for
journalists to ensure responsible and unbiased
coverage.
Very sticky wicket. What a weird way to phrase
that in an official email.
Right. What they're saying is it would be a major
scandal if everyone knew the extent of it. They
know it looks unseemly. don't want they don't want the
media to report on on the massive conflict of interest of joe biden going
in and kicking out that that prosecutor conditioning us aid money on it while
u.s. aid is directly working with the resma but then the state department
using its media mockingbird apparatus funded by your tax dollars the swarm of
n.g.o.'s has reported publicly this week that ninety percent of Ukrainian media
outlets are funded by the US government ninety percent talk about a USAID
Truman show Jesus Christ and so who if they're funded by the State Department
guess what there's a State Department grant coordinator guess what if they
want to keep getting their contributions they are going to there's going to need
to be review and approval
by USAID and by state,
because often these are co-grants.
And so they have the capacity to ensure
that the incentives are aligned for the journalists
to be responsible with the way they report
on the USAID-Burisma connection
while Joe Biden is weaponizing USAID to protect Barisma.
By the way, I should note, Hunter Biden's law firm actually pitched using Barisma as an instrument
of statecraft to the State Department because the more you capacity build Barisma, the more
endogenous gas Ukraine is able to supply. And so that's less gas being exported into Europe from
Gazprom and Russia. So they blend this, it advances US national interests but hey
it makes us rich along the way so you know it's the same reason Pfizer gets
to keep all the profits you know for you know when they have when there's a
vaccine mandate you know they don't they say well we're just rewarding
you know this we're doing such good work well why, why aren't you, if this is a charity,
why aren't you giving the money back to the American people,
you know, of, well, should we put some cap on this?
And it's, oh no, well, we're incentivizing this,
you know, pioneering approach
and we're uniquely in the position to do it.
And what's important about this is this explains
for a lot of people that are very baffled
by obvious propaganda and misinformation
that's being propagated by the mainstream
media.
When you look at mainstream newspapers and television shows saying things that are just
factually incorrect, and you could research it, it's not hard to find out, and you see
them propagate this stuff, this is all the same sort of thing, but this is happening
on US soil.
Oh, exactly.
Well, actually, Jamie, if you pull that receipt back up, there's a paragraph there we didn't
read, but that's useful to this.
And then there's another topic related to this that I think makes this point even harder.
But look at that fourth paragraph there.
This is from the US State Department, which is in control of managing all of the media
assets, those 90% of media assets inraine and the ones that simultaneously operate here i would
offer that the reason is incentive to support could possibly read the main
objective of the reason was to create incentives for journalists to offer
sympathetic coverage
well so
mean objective of the reason
the main objective
it's an energy corporation yes yes
humanitarian aid uh... you know this is a for-profit company
that's directly tied.
This is such a wild statement.
The main objective of Burisma was to create incentives
for journalists to offer sympathetic coverage
of the company on energy issues.
Yes, yes.
Wow. Right.
They wanna pitch it as a sort of, you know,
patriotic,
pro-Western. They bought the media.
They bought the media, they bought the media.
And they bought the media here.
On that topic, can we talk about a related scandal
and frankly monstrosity that the American people
need to understand the full extent of its influence
on American hearts and minds?
No, we can't talk about that.
Okay, all right.
Well, let's go on to the next thing then.
Okay, so Jamie, if you go to X,
I think probably the best thread on this currently published
is the WikiLeaks thread on internews,
which just reading some of the statistics in that
will help make sense of some of the clips and screenshots that I'm going
to show you about its operations that then impact domestic affairs and international governments that
are allied with the state department. So if you just look up, just type in the word internews,
one word, I-N-T-E-R-N-E-W-S and and you go to search down the WikiLeaks profile you'll see
yeah here you go if you just top that that top one you know USAID is pushed
nearly half a minute so this so internews I've been I've been talking
about for a long time but but now the stage is sort of set to really show the
extent of this but what we do is we create these pretty little predicates,
these pretty little lie words, weasel words to hide from the American people
and especially from foreign governments what we're really doing in the area.
So we have a catchphrase at state and in state craft, and it's called independent media.
You can think of that as the State Department's word for good guy. OK, doesn't mean independent. They are funded by us. They are not independent
from the government. They literally submit their work and approval plans for
their work plans for what they cover for review and approval to the US State
Department. They are dog-walked the whole way. But we call them independent because
they are said to be independent from foreign governments who influence. So basically they're independent from the Chinese
government or they're independent from the Russian government. So there's just
like with the word USAID itself that we talked about last time, it's your mind
playing tricks on you. You're seeing aid but it's Agency for International
Development. But they do the same thing with independent media which
is that internally to them it means it's a good guy for us because independent from our
enemies but it's but when Americans see that they think well independent that
means it's a free actor who's not being sponsored by any government but under
the banner of us aids independent media and media sustainability branches we fund half a billion dollars a year
to this network
over four thousand media outlets
it reaches seven hundred seventy eight million people nine thousand
journalists trained member last time we went over the
treat the atlantic council with seventy i directors
annual funding from u s a as well as the state department and Pentagon how they were holding up iCall BS placards and
putting Trump tweets on screen to flag for disinformation if you remember we
went over that well this is what training journalists looks like is they
is is not only do they have the direct uh... spawn of of of new a media octopus
uh... under their
subgrantee group but they then go out and train the journalists who work at
all the other ones who are directly sponsored so they reach
everywhere
and you'll see here for example makes reference to uh... to uh... you know gene
burgo who who is uh...
you know making uh... you a million dollars a year there.
And if you go now, I'm going to show this domestic impact real quick and then a couple screenshots.
So if you, this has been going viral on X. I've been talking about USAID's role in the censorship
industry forever. And if you look up, if you just look up internews and you just plug in the name,
you know, if you just copy paste that, you know, Jean Burgow phrase, you'll see this in the video section because it's
everywhere now. So, she made speeches for a long time, but this is a
big one. Here you go, this one right here. Okay. So, USAID-funded internews CEO
pushes for global advertising exclusion list to
censor disinformation. So this is a 28 second clip. Like what they did to X. Yeah,
exactly. Disinformation makes money and it's that's one of them. We need to
follow that money and we need to work with the, and particularly the global
advertising industry, that a lot of those dollars go to pretty bad, bad
content. And so you can work really hard on exclusion lists inclusion lists are
really try to focus at dollars and challenge
global advertising industry
all around the world focus at dollars towards
that the good the good news and information that
accurate relevant
so so this is u s a sponsored both sides of this
she runs a $500 million mercenary media for
Hippies for Hire Empire, sponsored by USAID. USAID also
gave $68 million to the World Economic Forum itself.
And USAID's own internal documents show the explicit
political targeting of these advertiser networks. And I can show you receipts on that
if you just type in the word SEPPS CEPPS and advertiser on my X timeline
and I don't mean to just go receipt to receipt to receipt actually no it's okay
actually before we get to that just so I can close the loop on something that's a
little bit more accessible and less political Jamie I texted you a screenshot of internews in in Brazil and if you one of
them has at the top of it something called rooted in trust
if you keep going up yeah there you go that one
yep okay so this is internews with a worldwide media octopus sponsored a half a billion dollars a year,
you know, reaching 9,000 journalists, 5,000 media outlets, and here's what they were doing
just in, just on, just on COVID censorship. So Rooted in Trust is a internews program,
it's a global pandemic information response program
to counter the unprecedented scale and speed
and spread of rumors and misinformation.
All which turned out to be true.
All which turned out to be true.
Our own CIA says that, our own House oversight committee
says that now formally.
Every single step of the way.
There's not one thing they said
that turned out to be accurate.
Not the death rate, not the ability to stop infections and
transmissions not the side effects not the fact that natural immunity is far
superior none of it no not nothing not one thing not the lab leak theory
nothing not even the funding of the research and the actual lab, which was also USAID,
right?
Yes, yes.
Fifty million dollars.
Right, right.
From UC Davis to EcoHealth directly into, because I always say when it's too dirty for
the CIA, you give it to USAID.
And that's why, you know, that's why you have all this pandemic stuff.
Maybe we can get to that later.
But I want to show the scale of this.
You sponsored your own
state censorship
rooted in trust is tracked more than nineteen thousand rumors about the
virus across fourteen plus languages globally over eighty one million people
in response to the unique rumors source from each country context
this u s aid sponsored pro project has produced a total of over a hundred thirty
rumor bulletins
five hundred radio broadcasts in four hundred eighty media stories
uh... through through a series of training opportunities events peer-to-peer
networks and small grants rune trust is supported five hundred and fifty
local media organizations
in order to
scan and ban the internet
or more importantly to connect communities with directly with timely and accurate
covert nineteen information also turned out to be lies alley time before this to
text one page of this i mean this is the everyone should go through this
this document all post on my ex feed and there's there's millions around this i
mean this
the whole global coordination was done through this
through u s eight and the u s state department in its
partners in in the in the u k and in nato
and you know the fact that these very organs are implicated in it the strange
darpa grants around creating the the great the gain of function
uh... you know the the u s eight you know uh...
you've got to keep that we're all jumping you know animal to
human for these things you know the presence of folks like Avril Haines the
deputy director of the CIA and then head of director of the director of national
intelligence you know at these censorship planning conferences for event 201 the
fact that state and
DOD and and the UK Foreign Office all funded all of the censorship organs
like the Atlantic Council and Grafica and these others that we went over last
time you know they basically they're the prime suspect for the crime and they and
they sponsored the entire white blood cell apparatus to swarm any
kernel of truth penetrating the membrane in order to orchestrate the cover-up so
they're on both sides of it
in and we can talk about more about the you know the the inner news you work
there but i want to but i want to
this is the darkest of conspiracy theories
the darkest of conspiracy theories was that the leak was intentional. The darkest of conspiracy theories is that this was
planned, they knew this is gonna be a financial windfall, it is the greatest
transfer of wealth in the history of the United States by far from the working
class to the elite. It's like three plus what trillion dollars or something
crazy like that. Yeah
We've already established
That it was created in a lab. We already established that USAID funded it We already established that Fauci at all lied about gain-of-function research what they were doing
The worst theory possible is that this was released on purpose. Yeah, that would be the worst case scenario
Yeah, have you ever danced that one around your head?
Because that's that's where you we know they're willing to do horrible evil shit
But like is there a ceiling on that?
Even now to this day having spent
Even now to this day, having spent so much of my life in it, I try to just pursue the leads that I have and then try to let the conclusions come to me.
Certainly the fact that they funded the capacity to do this, they worked directly with all the networks that were both doing it and censoring it is
that puts you pretty much as you know they created it and they covered up at
least the leak in terms of the the intentionality for doing it that is a
really dark scenario you know there are a lot of things in american history
that that have that same you know
me how the hot distinction you know
today today make it happen or do they let it happen they let happen or do they
make it happen
and both of them are major scandals that completely change
that the the legitimacy and credibility of policy changes in response to the
crisis for example.
Like, you know, take something like Pearl Harbor, right?
It's been declassified now, the McCullum memo,
the eight action plan.
Are you familiar with this?
Yeah, I'm right.
You know, and this was written before the bombing,
and it was eight ways to get Japan to attack us
because we don't
have diplomatic cover to declare war on them but if we get them to attack us
and we can then spiral that into a war predicate. I mean they're the same thing
for example with the Northwoods memo with you know pretext to war with Cuba
and cooking up all these you know hijacking our own planes sinking our
own ships doing you know riots on the streets of miami and then saying that it was the
other cuban government behind it
you can same thing with vietnam gulf of tonkin you know i same thing with uh...
you know with the the weapons of mass destruction uh... it predicate for
invading iraq did did we know that that would be a duty did we
where we duped and the crime was negligence
letting our national security state believe the new york times reporting
on you know on can chemical and you know and and biological and weapons of mass
destruction
in rack or did we
make that happen to we
you was that
was that something that we knew was not true based on our own intelligence
but because there was a useful thing there and
you know a lot of people have the same thoughts about issues around around 9-eleven in any number of crisis events and I
I suppose I have my own thoughts on it
They're not fully settled and because they they are beyond the evidence I currently have,
I stay in the zone of this is what they did to create it,
this is what they did to cover it up.
Here are the stars in the sky,
draw your own constellation from there.
That's a good way to put it.
Okay, back to what you were just about to talk about.
Yeah, so, well, so again,
there's two simultaneous tasks that I have.
One is to burn down these rogue institutions
that have been weaponized domestically
and salt the earth behind them
so that these kind of excesses can never come home again.
The other one is we do need US soft power projection
in order to maintain the standard of living and prosperity that we have. You know I give the example all the time no blob no
pencils. You can't make pencils in this country unless you depend on governments in
Malaysia and South America and you know parts of Africa and if that's the
the case in you know for pencils now do that exercise with petroleum. Now do that
exercise with cobalt, for example. There's only one, there was only one operational cobalt
mine in all of the US and in 2022 that even that mine shut down. So most of the cobalts
in the Congo, if you, if the, if the Congolese government decides they don't want to allow
you access to cobalt, well goes your capacity to to create any high technology
Or renewable battery or anything?
There is potentially a need for some modified and more honest
Restrictions on our Department of dirty tricks for example the CIA used to be allowed to assassinate world leaders
In the in the 40s and 50s you know this is where we got in trouble in Congo with La Mumba or you know
I end air and any number of these and then when those scandals got
revealed there were legislative reforms put in place and executive branch
national security reforms put in place to say okay you can do dirty work but
not that dirty you can't do that the same thing needs to be done now for all
of these things you know many categories of things.
For example, we just played internews
and the internews CEO campaigning to governments
and corporations and private sector,
civil society organizations around the world
that they need to economically blacklist news sites
that operate on social media. And those arelist news sites that that operate on social media
and those are US news sites that's this is the basis of lawsuits here in the US
like Daily Wire and the Federalist suing the State Department for because US news
sites are in these advertiser blacklists and to that end I want to I want to note
two things first if you if you go to my ex feed and you type in the word
advertiser or advertisers and if you need to you can plug in the word USAID or
CEPPS in this and I want to show you that this is not internews gone wrong.
This is not a half a billion dollar a year grantee of USAID going rogue and
being ideological about this. This is top-down US government
policy from the White House and I'll show you the documents on that to the
White House executive branch agencies like USAID and state. Okay if you go to
search and you put in the word advertiser yeah and it could be
advertiser or advertisers.
Okay, so there you go.
So click on that left, the left image first.
This is, now we talked about this group, SEPS, last time, you know, in our hit a few months ago.
SEPS is a program that is basically a joint baby of USAID and the State Department and is implemented
by USAID's key operational arm,
the National Down for Democracy.
But this is a USAID program on countering disinformation.
Internet censorship is what they do.
And we went over last time,
I remember we played that two minute video
where they were openly saying that the plan
is to get foreign governments to pass legal reform reform pass laws and regulations to stop the spread of misinformation on us social
media websites so us USA would not be able to lobby the US government to do
that because we have a First Amendment Europe doesn't other Brazil doesn't but
here is from an internal document February 2021 of USAID's SAVS program and
now this is a 97 page document.
They referenced the word advertiser and advertising
in this document 31 times in 97 pages.
So this is, and that was three years
before that clip we just saw.
How far back in motion this is.
And I can go back even further to that in 2017
and share close on that and how this network coordinated
the very ad boycotts that Elon is subject to and that brought Facebook and Google to their knees when they folded to very ad boycotts that that Elon is subject to
and that brought Facebook and Google to their knees when they folded to
advertiser boycotts. There you go, in order to disrupt the funding and
financial incentive, using the same phrases that the Internet CEO did to
disinform, attention is turned to the advertising industry particularly with
online advertising. So it goes on to say,
thus cutting the financial support in the ad tech space
would obstruct disinformation actors.
They're not human beings.
They're not Americans running mom and pop shops
that depend on their Facebook page
to be able to advertise their flower business.
No, they're reduced to the inhuman disinformation actors
from spreading messaging
online. So the efforts being made to inform advertisers of the risk, such as the threat
to brand safety. So this is USAID saying, we got to talk to these advertisers and say,
hey, you know, brand safety is really important to all your brands. It would be a shame if
you were known for putting ads next to misinformation websites like daily wire in the federalist
that goes on to say
additionally with this data
organizations in these are part organizations this group steps
runs you know is it together with u s a den and uh... in the state for that
run network of hundreds of n g o's around the world that all jointly
carried this out this weather sponsor to says the aim is to redirect funding to higher quality news domains
and improve regulatory and market environments regulatory means laws laws
laws about this like the EU Digital Services Act redirect so this is a top
down US government plan to financially re-engineer the entire economics of the news
industry in order to make it so that if you spread messaging against the state or against
a sensitive policy issue by the state, you are put out of business, you cannot professionalize,
you can't compete with CNN or New York Times or MSNBC.
Just like this is what happened to Breitbart,bart for example and they got caught up in this web
They lost 99% of their advertising revenue
They were going up like this and however you feel about Breitbart of this these are the these are the plain facts of this
Inaction they were a rising star in the 2016 election Steve Bannon
Who was you know the head of that went on to be that basically the top White House adviser directly?
They got crushed when 99% of their ad revenue date this is
why everyone's having to switch to bilking their our own citizens to pay
for it because the natural thing advertisers would want to do
a return on investment for putting ads you know on on new sites or social media
they can't do because they're getting pressure from the government
and so
now look at the bottom now i don't have this but any members of congress or
doge
or uh... or house or senate oversight
or white house office of science and technology policy
i implore you
a few ample examples of advertiser outreach are included in an x three
i don't have that annex
it's not it's not available uh... you, on the USAID website that I downloaded this from before it went down.
The USAID is giving out examples of advertiser outreach, how to pressure them in order to do this.
And there's much more there. If you go to the next slide, for example, you'll see this is, they have whole categories of what u s aid wants uh... media companies to do
once once regulatory bodies to do
once uh... all of its other whole site partners to but here's just the first
two entries in this
what can technology companies to see this is u s eight
telling face book
twitter youtube
tick-tock ready twitch
eliminate the financial incentives
nuclear ad nuclear ad
nuclear ad revenue
if if uh... if we don't like what they say
what could national governments do again this is
our government funded by our tax dollars
telling foreign governments that they should regulate ad networks to kill the
ad revenue
u s social media websites and US news entities like has been caught up in the
advertiser database at state and USA under the Biden administration.
And there's a million more examples like this but if you want to go to a really crazy one,
there's a YouTube video that is still live.
It's by Globsec.
Actually before I turn to that, do you if am I going no okay I text before we're gonna go to this 2000 May 2017
Globsec video but before I do that Jamie I texted you an image of of a piece that
that my foundation just published if you it says 23 EU organizations drive EU censorship law.
If you scroll up or actually if you scroll down.
Oh, you know what? Actually, maybe I didn't text you.
It's at the top of my X feed right now.
And you'll see it might be like the fifth or sixth one down.
But yeah, just down a little bit.
OK, OK, right there. OK, so so sorry.
No, it's both the one above and below that.
So before we get to the one above that, let's go to the one right below that.
So one more below that one more, one more, one more, one more, one more, one more.
It's that one. It's yeah.
See those four screenshots?
Yeah. So so we just reported this.
This is 23 US-funded organizations
who are all signatories or implementers,
signatories to the EU's Code of Practice on disinformation,
which if US tech companies don't comply
with what the EU, a foreign body, calls disinformation,
the penalties for that are losing 6%
of US social media companies global annual revenue
or get kicked out of the entire e u market which is five hundred fifty
million people
you know we go through this you know in in this in this here but if you it's a
not only are they the signatories to it
uh... yet
basically helped craft this thing and the u s government stamp on this
uh... but if you if you go to if you see that they're also the implementers
they're the ones who are helping define disinformation in the e you that targets
u s social media companies in u s news that website so go to the fourth one go
to the fourth
the four thing right here
now this
but my foundation just report is well
uh... we got access to
a in a white house
interagency working group for for
information integrity this is one of the censorship weasel weasel phrases we
saw words
information integrity is what you just saw that u s a document about hike
redirecting ad revenue from high qual high quality news outlets to low quality
news outlets
they make that determination by determining high integrity news outlets to low quality news outlets. They make that determination by determining
high integrity news and low integrity news. So basically if they like you they call you high
integrity. If they don't like you or you're publishing a scandal or you say hey the COVID
vaccines might have some problems with them, hey there might be some issues with you know
what happened in the 2020 election, hey you know what's happening with our Ukraine aid?
Low information integrity. So this phrase, information integrity,
is one of these evolving sets of weasel phrases
in order to do internet censorship
while making it look like it's just an intervention
to help you, we're making the information integrity
ecosystem better so that we have a healthier
information environment.
Well this is directly from,
this was centrally coordinated from the White House.
This working group has 26 US government agencies
and programs participating in it.
They're partnered with 14 outside universities,
as well as a whole row of private sector firms.
USAID is one of those, by the way.
USAID is a contributor to this in the Biden administration.
This started in December, twenty one really got the
wheels turning in december twenty twenty two
but this is from the white house office of science and technology policy itself
where where it's someone from white house the other co-chairs are from od and i
the director of national intelligence the job that
uh... tulsi gathers currently uh... you know campaigning for. DARPA you know the
Pentagon's brain as well as the National Science Foundation which is the civilian
arm that that funds all the censorship work but here you have from the Joe Biden
White House itself engagement with international partners that this this is
three years ago before the you know before this thing even really kicked in in the way that it now is.
Engaging with our international partners outside the United States on our censorship efforts,
establishing a partnership with the European Union to provide US researchers,
now that's their cover word, that's the big lie word of all of this all this it's operations but they call them researchers to make it look passive
rather than active and I can go through a million examples of that to show how
deep that lie goes with access to social media data accessible under the 2022 EU
code of practice on disinformation every single one of these researchers is
connected to the blob whether directly or indirectly they're either a part of
organizations that are sponsored by USAID the State
Department the Defense Department or their Transatlantic Networks in the UK
like the UK Foreign Office or they are indirectly partner they're partnered
with one who is every single one of these they don't just like researchers
they got to be credent they got to be accredited they got to be credentialed
they got to be vetted in fact A lot of these there these internal documents talk about how you know only basically the the trusted
Inside web should be able to get access to this
But what they're saying is the US government can't pry that out of Facebook's hands. We have a First Amendment
We can't we can't make them subject to a code of practice on disinformation
There is no legislative bill that will pass Congress that will force them to give over that will force facebook to give over the you know that
the private messages and all the internal algorithm and spread of
information to a random US University like a you know you know pick your
poison the University of Washington or or the University of Stanford to a random University that everything you
thought was safe and secure on the platform
is now being given to a private
you know University because it was crowbarred out of your
out of the platforms arms by the government this is the sort of thing the
NSA does
when the NSA has you know secret war does when the nsa has you know uh... secret warrants forcing facebook
to uh... compel
you know private
information about the platform
for the fb i and you know uh... when they're doing it uh... uh... uh... uh...
investigation or the nsa when they're doing a national security one
this is doing it
for private actors
they're using foreign governments
to crowbar u companies because we in their
eyes are unfortunately bound by the First Amendment.
There's a lot more there, but I can pause.
Jesus Christ.
It's so amazing how thorough it is.
Like the people that want to think the government is completely inept and that conspiracies
aren't likely because people are not motivated
and not very good at their jobs.
Like the people, same people that want to say the government is terrible.
It's filled with bloat.
They don't know what to do.
They're not capable of pulling off something with this depth.
So when you see it, when you actually see it laid out and the mechanism in which it
was done through NGOs and through these other non-government organizations it's kind
of astonishing it's it's kind of impressive. Oh it is and you see how it
all synchronizes just like Wissner's Wurlitzer did in you know from 1948
through you know the 1970s when form you know formally it was supposed to have
stopped but just that's why I say when it's too dirty for the CIA,
you give it to USAID.
The CIA used to do this work under covert action.
But USAID has a couple of cute tricks
that make it the central warehouse for all of this.
And this is why, when we started this conversation,
I was saying, you know, you ain't seen nothing yet.
This thing is gonna get so deep, and it's gonna connect to so many institutions that everybody
thought you know like like in the Truman show they thought it was their best
friend you know they thought this thing was totally independent and these were
authentic conversations you're having with the cashier and it turns out oops
okay actually you're a part of this you know USAID sponsored network or the
state or DOD or or-sponsored network because this is fundamentally covert action that's being done and when
the CIA, the CIA is subject to restrictions on the kind of covert
activity it can do. Every covert action the CIA does, which is our organ for
organized political warfare, you know, George Kennan himself as well as William
Casey and Colby
and everyone the express purpose of it was to carry out the subversive side of
the political struggle you know so that we'd have a mechanism for influencing
foreign you know the foreign affairs by creating an internal what looks to be an
organic you know grassroots authentic network within the country.
But we're actually funding and directing their actions,
their actions to be favorable to U.S. interest.
But where I'm going with this is U.S. aid is,
has most of the worst scandals
of U.S. statecraft and covert action in the past two decades have actually
been from USAID rather than the CIA and there's a reason for this.
So after the big scandals against the Democrats and liberals and anti-war groups in the 60s
and 70s, reforms are put in place and some of this goes back to the four years itself,
but every covert action the CIA does has to be authorized by the president
in what's called the presidential finding
to take that covert action.
So if the CIA senior leadership
or just a rogue cell that's not even at the top
of leadership, but just a rogue desk,
a rogue portfolio, a rogue network
wants to run a covert action in a region,
but they don't think the president will approve,
or the president doesn't wanna formally sign off on it
in case it goes wrong, they can walk right over to USAID,
who can do the exact same thing the CIA does,
except they can call it discrete democracy promotion,
because it's not technically an intelligence agency
so it's not technically covert action so it doesn't require executive branch approval
or foreknowledge and they've gotten in trouble in these cases in some pretty incredible ways.
Can I show that?
Yeah, please.
So let's start with even the whitewashed version. Go to the Wikipedia of Zunzenio, Z-U-N-Z-E-N-E-O,
just on the Wikipedia,
and then we can go deeper on this if you want.
This was a scandal during the Obama USAID era.
Now, we were running a number of rogue USAID operations
in Cuba at the time.
By the way, I have to say for the record, I'm no fan of the Cuban government.
I'm not even weighing in on whether it's the right or wrong thing to do in terms of
regime change there or liberating people there from autocratic excess by that government.
I'm simply showing the American people where your tax dollars are going and how these things are structured in order to systematically
fool you and to fool Congress and to fool the White House. So for example, so
this is, this is, I'll show a couple other things in a second here, but so this is
Zunzano, if you just scroll for a second we'll start with this right, so it was an
online social media, just scroll up one second, we'll start at the top here, it was an online social media just scroll up one second we'll start the top here it was an online
social social networking microblogging service created by USAID and marketed to
Cuban users this was a Twitter knockoff see the background of this is this is
2009 2014 that period the State Department USAID were gangbusters gung-ho
on the promise of Arab Spring style social
media revolutions to topple other governments. The Arab Spring was a
Facebook revolution and a Twitter revolution. USAID pumped 1.2 billion
dollars in, you know, and we sponsored these activist groups and these civil
society organizations to learn how to use Facebook, learn how to use Twitter,
learn how to use hashtags, learn how to use Twitter, learn how to use hashtags,
learn how to coordinate street protests
so that everyone knows where to go,
what street to show up on,
what kind of slogans to use
in order to create the pro-democracy predicate for it.
But the problem was at the time,
Cuba did not allow US social media in.
So they said, hmm, so they're not allowing Twitter in.
How can we get a Twitter there,
but without calling it Twitter,
without making it look like it's coming from the US?
So what they did is they took
the exact same thing as Twitter.
Same user interface, same like and retweet button.
Zunzunio is the Cuban slang word for hummingbird.
So it means it's bird, it was the Twitter bird,
the whole thing.
But the whole trick about it was you have to
make it look like it's coming from the Cubans
if you're going to do this operation.
So what you'll see is,
it began running, so this is 2010,
this is right during the Arab Spring,
and what you'll see is they took funds,
millions of dollars of funds, that were concealed
as humanitarian funds designated for Pakistan.
Now I don't know if, Joe or the audience,
if you've looked at a map lately,
but Pakistan is not exactly the next door neighbor of Cuba.
Right?
So, and this is the Wikipedia white whitewashing and we can get into the
deeper layers this but
contractors funded by u s eight i should note the main contractor was creative
associates international is a frequent one it's c a a c a i not c i a promise
they they concealed in the budget
from
senate from congress
from the white house national security council
they said that that these were humanitarian funds for pakistan
and then they ran that to their contractor
c a i
uh... to squawk set up a biz and teen system of front companies using came in
islands bank accounts and recruiting unsuspecting business executives who
would not be told of the company's ties to the US government, according to the AP. Private companies
like Creative Associates International designed the network. The idea arose
after they were given 500,000 stolen Cuban cell phones that are available on
the black market. And then what you'll see if you scroll down is, okay, the
network dubbed the the Cuban Twitter reached about 60,000 Cuban subscribers the initiative appears to also have had
a surveillance dimension allowing a quote vast database of Cuban Zunzano
subscribers including gender age and receptiveness and political tendencies
to be built with the Associated Press noting such data would could be used in
the future for political purpose by the way these are all in quotes from the
internal documents and we can go through that the data would then be used in the future for political purposes. By the way, these are all quotes from the internal documents, and we can go through that.
The data would then be used for micro-targeting efforts
towards anti and pro-government users in Cuba.
The developers aimed to, at first,
use non-controversial content, such as sports and music,
and hurricane updates, by the way.
They used hurricane updates in the internal things.
Basically, a humanitarian front,
that if you sign up to this app,
you'll know about natural disasters in the area meanwhile
What was the plan the whole time?
Once they built up enough subscribers they would begin to introduce political messages through social bots and encouraged dissent
In this in this astroturfing. There's a great guardian write up on this if you if you go to guardians in Zinni, oh
So you can see see how crazy just type in
Zunzaniini o smart mob
guardian
you see the internal files
explicitly said
when a lawman
music sports and hurricane updates
you have to join you have to join
you know to add this deal twitter in cuba if you want
you know to be relevant in the culture and see what's trending in sports and
music if you want to be safe in your homes if you want nowhere can't go on
twitter cute cuban twitter uh... is that
the fastest place to get this it's humanitarian work for you know that's
we're saving lives by doing this
but the whole point is once they hit a critical mass
they would create rental riots
and and they would use this the same way they used it in Egypt and Tunisia to topple those governments
under the Obama administration.
They would organize smart mobs, rental riots.
And if you scroll down, this is a fantastic article,
highly recommend, there's a lot more there.
But okay, stop right there, oh, scroll up a little bit.
Scroll up a little bit, okay.
Documents show the US government planned
to build a subscriber base
through non-controversial
news content, news messages on soccer, music, and hurricane updates.
This is in The Guardian.
Later, when the network reached a critical mass, perhaps hundreds of thousands, operators
would introduce political content aimed at inspiring Cubans to organize, quote, smart
mops.
Mass gatherings called it a moment's notice that might trigger a Cuban spring or as one USA document put it quote
renegotiate the balance of power between state and society and
You know so
One more thing if you want to look up on this you see how they how they conceal it if you just type in
USAID Zunzano and the word and
Discrete or or discrete action and you'll see how USAID
when this scandal popped off everyone said what the hell how did this happen
this is classic CIA work you're using Cayman Islands bank accounts you're
saying it's your earmarking you for Pakistan you know Pakistani aid this has
clear implications for US statecraft if this gets busted this is what the CIA
is why we task the CIA to do this plausible liability if something has diplomatic
blowback and we don't want US fingerprints on it we need a formal
intelligence agency because there's diplomatic blowback if US fingerprints
are revealed so no yeah just discrete yeah yeah like let's see, if you scroll down, that third one might do, but if you
scroll down, you put discrete action, maybe put discrete action or discrete, covert and
action.
I believe there's a HuffPo on this.
Yeah, there you go yeah when is
covert action not covert when it's discreet
us aids so basically when this and if you scroll down to the bottom this
you'll see if you just control after the word Senate you'll see last week Elon
Musk held an ex space directly with senator Joni Ernst who has been on this
crusade to reform USAID accesses, and there's a really scandalous moment there
where Senator Ernst revealed that she was actually threatened by USAID when she
tried to get insight into what they were actually doing. Well, if you actually
score down, if you just do the next one, basically what USAID said is, well,
it's discrete democracy promotion, so it's it's you know we don't need a presidential finding for it
okay maybe this is not there but basically if if you control after the
word staff that might help it too but everyone can look this up independently
all this stuff okay is that the only okay maybe it's a different article but
basically Senate staffers and everyone go go on YouTube, there was a formal hearing on this
for oversight of what happened.
And what the staffers said is,
this is the staffers on the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee, which is supposed to be the thing
that reigns in, that gives the American people
oversight and accountability for USAID gone rogue.
And what the Senate staffers overseeing USAID said
is we had no visibility on this entire operation And what the Senate staffers overseeing USAID said is,
we had no visibility on this entire operation
the entire time because USAID told us,
if they had to tell us what we were doing,
people could die.
This is classic CIA stuff, but the Senate was blocked.
And I should note, again, when it's too dirty for the CIA,
you give it to USAID, this is why these drug operations
and these terrorist operations give it to USAID, this is why these drug operations and these terrorist
operations run primarily through USAID rather than directly at the CIA.
The Inspector General just two weeks ago put out a report.
The first time this has been publicly reported.
There's been an Inspector General at USAID practically from the day it was born.
It's supposed to be, this is what Joni Ernst was complaining about, Senator, Joni Ernst
was complaining about, which was that how can they get away with this?
And it's because the Inspector General
who's supposed to hold the agency to account from the inside,
but it's an independent agency,
so there's limited oversight from the outside.
If you have a rogue Inspector General,
they keep the whole op in-house.
Don't need to tell the executive branch,
don't need to tell the Senate or Congress.
Run it just like an Olly North, Iran-Contra style,
self-sustained, standalone, off- standalone off the shelf private enterprise to run covert action
on taxpayer dime but to not have it go through the formal approval channels
well so basically you know
what what they were doing here in you know in
what what the OIG report the inspector general report just published
and ever the best article on this and with the the link to it is John Solomon's Just the News, published this, a write-up on it, as well as the source document from the OIG's office.
We're just now learning this two weeks ago, despite them doing this activity for 30 years. Turns out there's a get out of sponsoring terrorism free card at USAID, which is that
USAID cannot directly provide funding to terrorist groups, but their contractors are not required
under the grant agreements to go through those OFAC style, those counter-terrorism financing.
If a bank did it, you would go directly to jail. Do not pass go, do not have liberty again
for the next 20 years of your life.
But if USAID does it, it's completely legal right now.
And so this is how you have USAID giving,
you know, they just, last week,
$122 million to ISIS, you know, we found.
You know, they fund all the terrorist groups in Pakistan.
They fund the terrorist groups in Pakistan They fund that you know the terrorist groups in the in the Sahel in Africa if they've got purpose
Paramilitary terrorist groups are
extremely useful to US statecraft as
For for DOD special operations work as well as for political destabilization work. I'll give a great example
We'll stay in Pakistan
Osama bin Laden a
Peaceful what what was it?
You know a warrior on the road to peace I remember the puff pieces about Osama bin Laden before before in the movie the Mujahideen the Mujahideen
Here's a great clip. Can you find the clip of Zbigniew Brzezinski?
I believe this is around like 1789
Airdropping out of a helicopter 1989 no 79. I believe it was a yeah
It's a big if you type in the big new Brzezinski. That's gonna be a wallop one to spell live
But if you used to Zbigniew
a wallop one to spell live but uh... if you choose a big new brisenski
you go to youtube
and uh... you type in your moja hadine
and you know what some air drop out of the helicopter and make the exact same
speech
that john mccain made to the as off battalion the you know the extremist
paramilitary faction of ukraine that was banned from getting federal funding uh... you know in uh... twenty fourteen with democrats said
they're all nazis but now they're all you know sponsored and get uh...
standing ovations from in the halls of congress because now they are
geopolitically useful
to pump up to capacity build
seo seo seo here
u.s. national security adviser brashinsky
flew to pakistan to set about rallying resistance.
He wanted to arm the Mujahideen without revealing America's role.
On the Afghan border near the Khyber Pass, he urged the soldiers of God to redouble their
efforts.
Could you pause for a sec?
Notice how he said he wanted to arm thea deen without revealing america's role
all point was to pump up this
fundamentalist extremist terrorist group
with the funding in sport they need but without revealing america's role hello
u s a that's the function today but but
keep my own
of their deep belief in god
the area confident
that their struggle will succeed
the rate of about a star
also almost a lot on here
uh... that land over there
is yours
you'll go back to it one day
because your fight will prevail
and you'll have your homes and your mosques back again because your fight will prevail and you'll have your homes and your mosques
back again because your cause is right and God is on your side.
That land is yours. Go out there and take it. We'll give you the money. Now, Jamie,
if you can pull up one thing and I'm gonna just talk a little bit more about
this case while you're pulling this up. You can find this I believe on my
X feed. I've posted this clip but you could also find it searching either ex or
YouTube of John McCain, and I believe he was with Lindsey Graham, making that
exact same speech using the same language in I believe it was 2016 or
I believe it was 2016 around then to the Azov Battalion folks in Ukraine
and to the paramilitaries folks in ukraine and to the you know to
the paramilitaries
it's almost it's almost word for word uh...
you know this was is
uh...
let me stick on the mujahideen thing for a second because this gets back to
this fundamental structuring why u s eight is allowed to
is tasked with this
is a bigger budget in the c i a u s eight does
it capacity bills the assets that c that CIA liaises with.
But if the assets aren't there,
CIA has no one to tell what to do.
They have none of their agents on the ground
or case officers can build an action plan
unless there are assets on the ground that have money,
that have training, that have food, that have shelter,
and US aid steps in to build,
to put the chess pieces on the board
that the c i a can that you can play with
interestingly i should note that the you know
the c i gets a copy of every grant to the national endowment for democracy
makes this was published in the new york times
and in a piece called uh... you know
global that missionaries for global pluralism about u s a top
operational arm nate
but but uh... the point here is
why were we funding terrorists in the nineteen seventies and eighties
according to
our national security advisor use a big new brisenski the grand
chessboard you know this
you celebrated uh...
apex predator of american
statecraft
you know what i think he had a quote of something like well we'll
army what is arming a few you know islamic fundamentalist uh... you matter
uh... when weighed against the history
of america winning the cold war
you know that that this fundamentally destabilized and bogged the soviet union
down
if this was extremely effective but also how do we find the Mujahideen? Well the Mujahideen is in Afghanistan, they were, before they
became Al Qaeda and ISIS. What asset does Afghanistan have to play with in order
to fund its war network, its paramilitary network? Well it's the drug
network. They happen to sit on the, you know, basically the poppy fields that
when exploited comprise 95% of the world's heroin if you export that and so the CIA backed
State Department USAID backed and we can go through receipts of USAID doing the same, you know drugs for cash for guns work in the 1960s
practically from the day it was born.
But what they were doing is they were taking those poppy harvests and then they were depositing
them in CIA proprietary banks like BCCI, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International.
Everyone can look this up or if you want to plug in CIA, BCCI and look at all the mainstream
media reporting on this, It was a major major
major scandal. You know, it had become one of the world's largest banks and it was basically
a CIA front and it was a Pakistani frontman for this and it was converting, effectively
washing the proceeds of these drugs so that they could be, so that the Mujahideen could
buy arms. And while the Pakistani militants militants were being you know funded and trained in
Pakistan and then they you know go to Afghanistan and conduct military
operations against you know against you know against the Russians who were our
stated Cold War enemy the same thing's happening today though if you go on my ex feed right now
I'm going to show you something related to this and how this still goes on today
USAID has been busted multiple times
for actually cultivating the poppy and heroin production in
In Afghanistan exactly in Afghanistan. This was this was actually the inspector
You know there was a it was one of the adjacent
units, not, I don't think it was directly overseeing USAID, but they published a whole
report on this, that basically USAID, you know, was keeping the poppy production alive
by doing, you know, what was said to be, you know, irrigation and, you know, agricultural
sustainability, but targeting it in the in the in the
heroin network and this by the way remember the Taliban banned banned
poppy production and it was after that ban that Afghanistan became the source
of 95% of the world's heroin so USAID was growing those crops now okay you can
argue well hey maybe it was an accident, maybe they went rogue.
I wanna show you something now
from an adjacent USAID network group,
which is funded 100% by the US government,
created by an act of Congress.
If you go to my ex account right now
and you type in US Institute for Peace,
or you just put in Institute Peace,
you'll see this this organization gets 56 million dollars a year from US taxpayers its office is
right next to the US State Department I literally walk by it it is a so it's
funded by the government it's it's accountable by the government it's accountable to the government is you know countable to you know that the
house uh... house house and senate you know uh... for for affairs for foreign
relations
uh... it gets all this money is a pastor from the u s state department get i think
it's yet is the other go to school school and so that would that would write
that right there taliban's successful opium ban
so this is
one hundred percent top to bottom, a direct organ of the US government.
Okay, click that, click that. There you go. Okay. This Halban successful opium ban is bad for
Afghans and the world. The ban is not a counter narcotics victory and will have
negative economic and humanitarian consequences potentially leading to a refugee crisis.
How can they say it's not a counter narcotics victory?
Look and look at the date.
2023?
This ain't ancient history. This is less than two years ago.
That's crazy.
This is the State Department saying,
yeah, listen, 95% of the world's heroin flows from here.
Keep the heroin flowing. It would be an economic disaster
Well, where you think those drug money those what what paramilitary networks, you know, you hear about all these terrorist networks that you look
Think about what just happened in Syria with Isis
Everyone actually before I go to that
Let's let's get back to Isis and the difference between between the ISIS foreign policy for the Obama-Biden world and Trump.
I'm going to connect this, but wait, can you pull that back up, Jamie, for a second?
I just want everyone to see it.
Don't look away.
Stare straight into the sun.
Go to the next receipt here.
There you go.
2024 budget and brief.
The U.S. Institute of Peace is seeking $56 million from US taxpayers to
promote global peace and security, you know, by keeping the 95% of the world's heroin flowing
in accordance with its congressional mandate.
And then, you know, and then I think I have the next screen shot is just showing that
they give any examples of how it would promote peace to keep the the opium flowing?
Well, well because the way they're saying it it's like this Orwellian speak. Well, yeah, you always have to invert it
Right when they say peace it's war
Right. So so this is this is war for example
US Institute of peace was doing the same thing with the Albanian drug networks that formed a
paramilitary fighting squad against the
Yugoslavian government as
we were overthrowing Slobodan Milosevic.
This stuff goes way back.
This was created in 1984, somewhat thematic, ironic, by Congress.
Again, this was a Ronald Reagan creation and why I come back to that thing that just broke
the John Bolton hand grenade.
The holy hand grenade of Antioch from Monty Python.
This is the, you know, nothing's nothing really gets to the heart of what USAID truly is than
the the image of John Bolton proudly declaring that he was the head of policy and budget
at USAID and his farewell gift from the agency was a
Golden hand grenade with his name carved on it
But you know what he said, you know in that in that Piers Morgan interview
And I don't know if you we could play it if you want it off your feet. Yeah
But you know what he said is listen
I said it also said proud Reganon And this is why I come back to this.
We're fighting a number of ghosts from our past here.
A lot of Republicans are fine with fighting
Woodrow Wilson's ghost.
He was the one who said make the world safe for democracy
and gave us this doctrinal blank check to do soft power
infiltration work against every plot of dirt
and every foreign citizen in every foreign country
on planet Earth gives us the blank check
to be a global empire, okay?
A lot of people say, okay, we're gonna focus on us.
You know, Wilson's a bad guy, okay, okay.
But you're also fighting the ghost of Ronald Reagan.
You know, I should note that USAID is actually in,
its headquarters in DC is in the Ronald Reagan building.
USAID and Ronald in its headquarters in D.C. is in the Ronald Reagan building.
USAID and Ronald Reagan played the key role
in fundamentally creating the restructured blob
that we live under after the scandals of the 1970s
that the CIA was busted in.
Church committee hearings, heart attack gun,
mockingbird, MK ultra, you know,
assassinations, all that stuff. Jimmy Carter got into power in 1976,
carried out the harshest destruction of CIA operations capacity and funding ever
in American history. He laid off 30% of the entire CIA operations division in a
single day. That was called the Halloween massacre crippled their budget.
Then the Iran hostage situation pops off in, you know, 79.
The National Security State argues this wouldn't have happened unless the CIA had its old powers
back.
Democrats still hated the CIA at that time because it had been directly interfering in
their own domestic politics and trying to thwart factions of them,
just like they're doing today
against the MAGA movement side of the Republican party.
You know, the universal thump
has been passed around in that way.
But so they couldn't get a legislative bill to do this.
So what they did is they restructured
the intelligence apparatus, the covert action capacities,
and the way our statecraft is done through USAID
and the creation of the National Down for Democracy
to take the baton from what the CIA used to do.
But the whole point of it is in tandem.
Now that's why you have these John Bolton at USAID.
This is why you have Liz Cheney at USAID.
You know, this is what we're fighting against
as we're reforming this.
It's not really a partisan issues i see it even though
you know statistics show there's disproportionate democrat
beneficiaries but
you the real issue is
the magna movement is fighting the the ghost of of ronald reagan passed
the the reason republicans loved u s a john bolton types list any types love it
is because
this was our muscle for US
Chamber of Commerce multinational companies to pad their profits because
ExxonMobil, how many hundreds of billions in the
aggregate has ExxonMobil and Chevron benefited from from US regime change
efforts or US pressure on foreign governments in order to give them access
to the petroleum in order to do partnerships with those governments
we saw that just you know a few years ago as we just went over with Joe Biden
doing the same thing for barisma but so the big the big multinational businesses
love this and it was sold as trickle-down economics this is the the
Reaganite sort of Reaganomics and why it's attached to the hip with USAID and why this is something we need
to keep in mind as we reform
is that the idea was is look
we do some dirty work abroad
but at the end of the day
that pads profits and revenue for US companies
those US companies employ US citizens
and they build manufacturing plants in Ohio
and and uh... manufacturing plants in Ohio and in Colorado and New
Mexico and that's what allows you to 401ks that's what allows you have
discretionary income that's what allows you to afford higher education and
houses and a retirement plan the problem was is as globalization kept on kept a
pace you know through the 90s and 2000s these same multinational corporations that the
Reaganite, you know trickle-down economics
You know use the blob to to to support the Chamber of Commerce
They don't hire their labor here anymore. They don't have their manufacturing facilities here anymore
We're not the primary export market for this.
So you have US State Department and USAID paying to help the corporate welfare of
not only US-based companies, foreign currency speculators,
you know, banking on the activity in the region, you know, the banks, financial firms and political insiders,
and so it doesn't actually get down to the people anymore.
So you do need to restructure. If you're going to keep using this in order to qualify yet you have to have a certain minimal threshold of reinvestment in America
which I'm very happy that Trump is doing by trying to bring all this investment
you know you saw with Japan and other countries is trying to get them double
triple their commitments we need to demand that of our own corporations if
they want to have a meeting with the Secretary of State or the or the head of
the Central Intelligence Agency like Pepsi did in the 1970s when we overthrew
that if you want to go there.
This is also this is it's so deep that it makes you wonder is there enough time in four
years to unravel this stuff?
Oh no not four years.
This is this is a this is a 50 year project 50 year project. Oh, yeah
There are many fractal layers to this reform process
And every step of the way there are going to be layers of resistance. I don't think
The the people who are look we should spike footballs. We should pop champagne
We should do a touchdown dance on this.
This is the first serious time in American history
that the foreign policy establishment has had to
be accountable to the people who pay for it.
Um, even the church committee didn't cause the
entire shutdown of, of a federal agency.
Didn't lay off, you know, remember I mentioned
the, uh, the Halloween massacre, Jimmy Carter Carter 30% of the workforce laid off yeah try would
just happen with USAID which employs you know a lot more people than even the CIA
did it you know at that time 99 99 percent went from 14,000 down to 290
this is in every way symbolicallyically, operationally, financially,
the hardest blow the blob has ever had to suffer
in terms of accountability.
And it's only getting way deeper from here because-
He's only been in office for a month.
Yeah, well that's why we need to create a legacy
and a pipeline of people to carry on these reforms
which is part of my personal struggle here which is that most people 99% of
people who got involved with the MAGA movement did it because they care about
the domestic they care about you know we talked about this they got because
their school curriculum is woke because the the police allow crime in the streets,
and the infrastructure's crumbling,
and there's corruption everywhere,
and no one's held accountable.
They don't think about Pakistan.
They don't think about Bangladesh.
They don't think about who's on the US
Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce,
and how if they're living in Louisiana or Houston
or Oklahoma, that actually their jobs at ExxonMobil
and Chevron sort of depend on this strong arm diplomacy
that we have with Persian Gulf countries.
They don't care about the Persian Gulf.
They care about local Oklahoma.
They have to now.
In order to understand the world they live in,
in order to understand what's driving the world around them,
in order to understand the actual true face
of the characters they thought they've known,
they're going to have to become international minded.
They're going to have to become versed in the interplay
between the domestic and the international
One of the problems when I started out this journey in 2016 is that there was no
Mega foreign policy intelligentsia. I could make all of these, you know, I was I was traveling the country
Slide show presentation after slideshow presentation talking to every human I could
Even DC insiders in you know in in Magwa you'd show them all of this and they didn't have a framework for understanding it
they could they could see that they could see that the information was true
they could see that this is you know formal government documents these are
formal grant outlays to real organizations run by real people with real names and addresses it's you know but but they
didn't and you'd have to explain the function of every single one of those
you know you'd have to explain for example that the Pentagon does an awful
lot more than kinetic military activity you You know, for example, when I draw, this is what's coming next, right?
President Trump tasked Elon Musk
with sickening the doge dogs on the Pentagon.
And, you know, depending on how you measure it,
the size of waste, fraud, and abuse at the Pentagon
ranges from a couple hundred billion.
They are the biggest, you know,
federal agency in all of this. They have nine hundred billion dollar
budget compared to only 44 billion at USAID and even less at CIA. So they but
you know the Yahoo Finance you know published this a couple years ago a
thirty five trillion dollar black hole. If you want to pull up that receipt on
screen just so I don't look like I'm saying this directly myself but just type in 35 trillion Pentagon black hole the that's larger
than you know the entire national debt just the amount of just a black hole in
the size of the accounting budget of the Pentagon over the years from its
continual you know failing you know this is on Yahoo Finance you know, failing. You know, this is on Yahoo Finance. You know, this is, and this is what, 2020, I think?
You have, when America was born in 1789
in the first meeting of Congress,
there were only three agencies that were created
in the beginning of time, shall we say.
The first act of Congress was to create
the Department of State, the Department of Treasury,
and the Department of War. And the Defense Department of State, the Department of Treasury, and the Department of War.
And the Defense Department became the Department of War in 1948.
What people, even now they're seeing these USAID scandals with funding to the Democrats,
or funding to some of these blob internationalist republicans are funny these media institutions
you ain't seen nothing yet when you get to the pentagon stuff because u s a d
was
created effectively in part
assist pentagon activity under humanitarian front
and i i talk about this a lot but but I feel the point is underappreciated,
so this is sort of a good moment to go over it.
Am I talking too much, by the way?
No, perfect.
Okay.
So everyone, you know, they say,
you know, JFK is a martyred figure,
and in the news again this week, obviously,
with the new trove of documents and whatnot,
and Trump's EO around the source of his assassination.
But the fact that JFK created US aid
by executive order in 1961,
and he is known and loved as a martyred figure,
regardless of who in the end killed him,
has given a sort of public imprimatur on USAID as it used to be called in order
to try to make clear that it was not an aid organization.
But now, almost even that, Paulence has dropped off as they need to defend it more and more.
So they think, okay, JFK martyred a deeply beloved figure. He created USAID. It was sort of out of the kindness of his heart
It was a charity. No
this was
It was JFK who fundamentally supercharged
America's
the American military's small wars capacity
This is the the terminology in the US Army War
College and Special Forces around you know sort of not full-scale conventional
wars they're either small small-scale paramilitary skirmishes or
insurgency counterinsurgency. So it's and the problem was is JFK was was bogged
down in Vietnam bogged down in Vietnam,
bogged down in Laos, and the problems that we were
fighting against were not the kind of things that,
you know, you'd have the political predicate after
a lot of the disasters of the Korean War in 1950,
and the international blowback to having formal
DOD boats on the grounds.
What he believed was
vital and necessary to capacity build and supercharge was a paramilitary
covert capacity for DOD in the warfighting space that the CIA had at
that point in the political war space. And this is done through the US Special
Forces and through some of its sub-branches which are
psychological operations, civil military affairs,
we can stick with that, but basically
these are civil military is when in order to achieve the military objective
the thing that needs to be done is actually something of the civil layer.
Like for example, in order to win the war against Russia right now, NATO believes we need the biggest current Air Force NATO base in you know in Europe the the
Ramstein base in in Germany we're now moving as we speak there are fighter
jets and drones being moved from Germany to Romania as we are building this base
that will be the point of source projection against the the Black Sea
Navy of Russia against
the you know against Crimea in order to you know turn the tide well that's a
military operation right the the military the NATO military base against
the Russian forces in Crimea but what is actually the most important strategic
objective for the military it's actually not military one? It's a civil one
See there's an election going on in Romania right now
You may have you may have heard about this the cancelled election in Romania with the Georgia skew this right-wing populist figure who has pledged
neutrality in the war
Doesn't wanna he's no so antagonize America, but he doesn't want to kill the Russians
He doesn't want he wants to basically back NATO off and he doesn't want to allow
this military base to be to be made well that is a civil decision by the elected
government of Romania decided by the hearts and minds of the voters of the
Romanian people but that civil action will either in NATO's eyes
win the war or lose the war.
So the problem is, it would kind of be something
of a diplomatic incident, shall we say,
if NATO rolled in and did, you know,
Slobodan Milosevic style air striping of, you know,
air strifes against the Romanian parliament building
and rolled into, you know,
rolled into the Capitol with tanks and troops just because, you know, the president was responding
to the Demcrack will of the people. So you need another mechanism to influence these civil affairs.
Enter civil military. This is where you get USAID in this, as well as USAID for psychological
operations. For example, I've been playing this've been playing this clip for months now and showing this
US military document from the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center.
I mean the Special Forces, the Psychological Operations and Civil
Military Training and Recruiting Center at at Fort Bragg the center of our psychological operations is called the John F
Kennedy
special warfare
training center
but you
USAID does that work? So for example, I've been showing a military document from the Biden Mark Milley era published in 2021
about how to plan race riots in Africa in
order to in order to stop the construction of a of a port by a foreign
government that would allow their force projection into the Atlantic Ocean in a
sample scenario where the US ambassador tries to get this West African country
on the you know on the Atlantic Coast there to cancel the port construction
in partnership with the foreign government,
but that government doesn't want to do it.
And so they refuse the U.S. Ambassador.
They refuse the State Department.
So this is literally in the planning guide and pitch book
for the U.S. Special Forces.
It's available online.
Right now everyone can look this up.
It's all over my ex feed.
I've posted a link a million times in all the screenshots.
But they show the role of Special Forces. they're pitching this basically to you know to
get more grant funding, that we can help a near-peer competition actually
with these with foreign countries by having special forces destabilize the
country, inflame racial tensions between the Africans who work in the factories
and the business owners of the foreign government
in the local regional development cause mass walkouts and strikes.
But if you want to pull this on screen, I can just show you these two things.
If you just go to my ex feed and you can type in rent rights can just type in USAID job fairs or USAID job.
And you'll see in this scenario, they talk about the interagency coordination between defense, diplomacy, and development.
All the roles, yes, USAIDID job you can pull it up and what they propose is
that as they are inflaming these racial tensions to cause these riots and
boycotts of the local businesses that USAID would play the role of swooping in
yeah go ahead click those and I can show you the source documents and everything
it's it's all over so IWC for example is information warfare center at Fort Bragg.
Again they're in West Africa. Now this is a sample scenario with a hypothetical
African country and I don't want to belabor this I'm not trying to cause an
international incident by saying this I'm just trying to get the American
people insight into why you are going to find USAID fingerprints all over Pentagon
operations and no one's gonna have known about it before because you park it at
USAID the military doesn't have to tell the president what they're
actually doing this is why for example you had the fight over ISIS and but we
can get to this right after this but you know we'll get to how how the US
military duped Trump through these these things constantly playing shell games
with the numbers in Syria for example example. You'll see, what the Information Warfare Center did is,
they saw a sign along the road for this port construction,
and they say the plan is we need to buy
the ambassador more time, because this port is gonna be,
they're gonna close on it, and we need to give
the ambassador more leverage at the negotiating table.
So this is a support operation for the State Department in order to secure an agreement
from the African government to shut the port down.
But right now, the ambassador doesn't have the smoke, doesn't have the clout, doesn't
have the leverage.
So the military will come in and provide that leverage by destabilizing the country, you
know, inflaming longstanding friction between the African workers and the foreign corporations,
popping off protests and then using their swarm army
of internews, USAID, you know, the social media campaign
and media articles to, that are led actually
in the background by the Information Warfare Center
at Fort Bragg to illuminate the controversy
to a global audience, right?
This caused international financial pressure
and sanctions on them. But if you go to the next slide, and a global audience, right? This caused international financial pressure and sanctions on them.
But if you go to the next slide,
and here we go, USAID.
So this is again,
US military document 2021, Biden administration.
To make sure this thing really pops off,
USAID is gonna swoop in along with other NGOs
to establish job fairs near the protest areas
so that when we're so that when these
racially inflamed african workers
want to you take to the streets they don't need to worry about losing their
careers at those companies they just went on strike at because they're going
to be on u.s. taxpayer dime baby it's going to be u.s. truck drivers median income
you know forty five fifty thousand dollars a year paying for striking
african workers to get no show jobs as a part of a race riot operation for the
u.s. special forces to give leverage to the u.s. state department ambassador in
order to stop a random port construction in west africa it says here within two
weeks the construction company lost sixty% of its required labor pool. Mm-hmm. So it's
effective. Now you and this is where I don't know if you want you know take a
breather and pivot to something lighter but this is where it starts to get
really really nasty because there are layers to this that I see but because
I'm not an insider I'm not I don't have access to the inside
government documents I don't have subpoena power at Congress there someone has to has
to get an answer on some of these questions and I was going to talk about the connection
of this to you know the rental riots I should say this to, you know, the rent to riots.
I should say formally, we don't know that the rent rights formerly the riots that popped off in this country in 2020.
And that I see is one of the main ways that the blob may be able to regain leverage here in the United States in the years ahead.
Right. Right now, they're doing lawfare there they're trying to mend
they're a little bit impotent right now because the coalition is very fractured
uh... many of the stalwart international republicans have gone full maga
so the bipartisan consensus on this is weaker than it was
and then
probably most
most difficult for them there's a bit of a civil war happening even within the
democrat party because of all the bad blood between the Biden camp and the
Kamala Harris camp. I mean, you need a unified network on the Democrat side to
pull this off and you had Joe Biden, you know, Joe Biden was soft-couped out of
office by his own party and you have half the Democrat Party who was in, it was a
very contentious, long drawn out process.
Joe Biden put on a MAGA hat, actually asked
one of those union workers, I believe he was,
one of those people at that event
for the MAGA hat to put on.
And that was quite a...
How about Jill Biden wearing a red dress
when she went to vote?
Yeah, yeah, good.
It's a big deal.
And when Joe Biden walked out
at that White House press conference
to announce that Donald Trump had won the election
the day before, people go back and watch that.
I have never seen Joe Biden smile harder in my life.
When he had Trump in the White House smiling and laughing,
he looked like he was having a good old time.
Right, right.
He was happy.
A stark contrast between Obama welcoming Trump in 2016.
Right, right.
And Obama was backing the Kamala, you know, sort of, you know, ouster of Biden.
So when they were all united in this bipartisan, you know, blob network and the Democrats were
completely cohesive and a full half of the Republican Party was, you know, network and the Democrats were completely cohesive and a
full half of the Republican Party was it was internationalist you could get this
buy-in for example it was easy to synchronize the US Chamber of Commerce
with the AFL-CIO with with with the Union Street muscle the way so USAID you you know, just back at this whole USAID
Truman show and I didn't like, I say this ever, there is no, nothing you can tell me
that is not affected by the USAID Truman show. You want to talk about the music
industry? I can, I tell you about USAID's complete infiltration of the music
industry. How so? Oh my gosh. Okay so and
maybe I can show you know receipts on screen here for a second. Do you want to
we'll start with with with an easy one because it's directly connected to
what we were just talking about with Zunz and EO in Cuba. So if you go to this
Max Blumenthal's outlets called Greyzone News and again I'm not trying to beat
up on our foreign policy establishments foreign policy on Cuba or way into that
but this is how the sausage is made and you're gonna see a million examples of
this in a second of this but but go to go to just type in on Google like or any
search engine gray zone news Cuban rappers USAID and you know you'll see this and and you know these are basically
sponsored hip-hop artists to write you know to to do revolutionary hip-hop to
appeal to to appeal to the Afro-Cuban community who the National Anthem for
Democracy had identified as being a demographic. See every time we do these operations USAID
the NGOs they'll submit what they call baseline assessment or strategic
assessment to the State Department where they will do where they will do a
demographic segmentation of all the demographics in the country who's
pro us who's against us in the region, and then they
will micro target the grants in the capacity building to capacity build the burning ember
to turn it into a flame.
So for example, and just so you see this, but you can go to the CIA World Factbook right
now, this is just the public facing CIA.gov.
You can type in a random country like Burma on just see I you
know world world book Burma you'll see the we keep meticulous tabs on the the
racial distribution the religious distribution the gender distribution the
you know the the heteronormative versus LBG LGBT one this is why USAID and NED
were we're backing and supporting Pussy Riot in
Russia, you know, to do these, you know, sort of insane, you know, sort of feminist
LGBTQ-style left-wing street riots. This is what they, you know, causes
international incident. You can see all the USAID, NED stuff on them. Pussy
Riot is the music industry. And go to YouTube and look at their music videos
if you wanna see what state sponsored music looks like.
But in the Cuba case, they were,
NED had published this document,
NED is the operations arm of USAID,
and they get a ton of their grants through it,
and they're a companion star.
Said, okay, all of our previous attempts
to overthrow the Cuban government failed. Well, you know, something like 60% of the Cuban population is Afro-Cuban,
they're radically underrepresented in the Cuban government, they have their own grievances
around policing issues and around representation issues. And they even noted in the document
that that demographic, and I'm not saying this, Ned is saying this, in Cuba is disproportionately drawn
to drugs influenced by rap music
and suffers from overwhelming amount of youth unemployment.
And so capacity building those desperate networks,
capacity building the anti-addiction programs,
we'll get you into the into the into the drug numbers
doing job fairs and and get getting these people u.s. payroll will alleviate
their pain points on
on uh... employment and
they all there you know predominantly listening to hip-hop so we need to work
with
i believe the group is a sense you to remember not beating up on it you can
make an argument
i'm not weighing in on whether this is good or bad but the american people have
to know this because this gets played on their
radio stations in miami
this gets
you know uh... art testimonials to this are at
you know uh... art basil in miami every year
you know and and this
this is the truman show around you but you can read that graze on report for
example or all right up on that all all the u s a d
funding all the meetings with the US ambassador
and Western Hemisphere Assistant Secretary folks,
how the whole thing was.
Get to, you can talk about musicians like Dua Lipa.
You familiar with Dua Lipa?
I've heard the name.
Yeah, don't stop now.
A million of these these great hits.
Fantastic musician.
I'm a big fan on the music side.
Dua Lipa won the Distinguished Leadership Award.
I forget if it was last year or the year before from the Atlantic Council.
Atlantic Council.
That's the same organization that we played on screen
during our first conversation, where
we went over the Atlanta Council, you know, holding up I-call bullshit placards, BS, and
looking at Trump tweets and training hundreds of journalists for how to flag and censor
him saying tweets like witch hunt or Brexit slogans for you know cheaper health care
the the Atlanta Council who has seven CIA directors seven former number one
heads of the CIA on its board of directors that gets direct grant funding
from the Pentagon the State Department and USAID the land council who had a
formal partnership agreement with barisma, I should note, signed on January 19th 2017,
one day before Trump became the US president. Why the heck would they give
Dua Lipa a distinguished leadership award? Well, you know, she's
ethnic Albanian and has activities in Kosovo, but I'm not trying to cause an
international incident when I say this, but you know her messaging around the the post Yugoslavia
breakup, Balkan states and a lot of the geopolitics around Serbia right now, the
US State Department has been pursuing as well as USAID and to whatever extent you
may or may not be there, you know, the civil military arm of the US military.
I believe, and on a privy day, inside information,
this is my reading of the tea leaves
that I've been laying out before everyone,
is not very happy with the government of Serbia,
and they want that Serbian government,
people in the Serbian government arrested, indicted and put through a process that they call transitional justice. And transitional
justice is the idea that when you transition a country, when you overthrow
its government or you pump up your favorite political party to win the
election, it transitions from democracy, from autocracy to democracy, or it transitions
from illiberal democracy to genuine democracy.
It's a turnover of government, and we have doctrine, we have a whole field of scholarship
at the State Department, at USAID, and that is carried out in covert ways through civil
military DOD and at CIA called Transitional Justice which is weaponizing
the Justice Department and creating the criminal predicate to eliminate your
political adversaries you just narrowly vanquished in a nail-biter vote in order
to stop them from ever rising to power again and I'll show you some great
receipts on this so that everyone can see this with their own eyes.
But before I do, let me just flesh this out for a second,
which is that every regional desk at the State Department
or in the USAID portfolio has to compete every year
for their budget.
They have to fight for their lives because the people
who are at the regional desk around Kyrgyzstan
and Georgia, Moldova, Latvia, Lithuania, you know uh... who are the regional desk around kyrgyzstan and you know
georgia moldova latvia lithuania
they're competing for in the budget for what's going to western hemisphere
what's going to argentina in brazil and columbia and they're competing at
sub-air so the cheaper it is to manage the political vast which of a country
the better
they may have had to to
to ask for a lot more money in the budget one-off in election year to run
that money through democracy international or through steps for you
or any number of u s eight or any d programs
to fund the political party they want they want to win
but they can't keep that system the it
they were only given that money because it was especially
they're not necessarily can be able to get that the next time around
and those bills spend money on other uh... soft power goals in the
region if it's if they don't worry about the other party rising again
doing what trump just did you know winning then losing the winning again
it's ok transitional justice is a whole field at state and in the n g o plex
uh... to make it cheap to manage the course and result of foreign elections
by making sure anyone who's a serious challenger to you
ends up in jail.
And I'm just gonna show you something
because it's now in the news.
Elon Musk this week tweeted out about a horrible situation
where someone from the PIS,
the Law and Justice Party in Poland,
I believe is now facing arrest for clicking the like button
on a social media post.
Jesus.
And, you know,
What was the post?
I don't actually know what the post was.
Was it one of Kanye's?
I played the fan.
I don't know.
But the fact is, is, you know, Poland plays,
and I've been saying this forever,
and this may be too far afield
for the narrow topic of discussion today, but Poland plays an absolutely huge, probably the linchpin
role in all of Eastern Europe with everything that's happening with Ukraine.
Because the whole play was to kill Russian gas, and then you need an alternative gas
supply into Europe to offset that, and there's only two ways to do that.
One is Ukraine builds up its own gas infrastructure and exploits
its endogenous hydrocarbon supply, which it has a lot of. It's the third largest in Europe,
but it's underexploited. Unfortunately, they can't do that right now because Russia reconquered
that exact territory in eastern Ukraine that those sit on. The only way to do that is through
exporting LNG, liquefied natural gas, from North America,
you know, from the Permian Basin or whatnot in Houston, freezing it, shipping it, you
know, 7,000 miles across the Atlantic up through the Baltic Straits through these newly built
routing terminals into Poland and the terminals there then routing it there into
Slovakia and Ukraine and Central Europe and on from there
Doesn't this bring us back to what Mike Johnson said that
Biden had signed an executive order that he hadn't read about liquid natural gas
Yeah, well that's interesting because that has to do also with the economics of it
You know, you don't want too much supply because then the profits of the corporations, they're selling it for less margin
as the supply goes up.
But yeah, the LNG fight is the major one
in the energy space, but it's much more expensive for LNG.
That process, liquefaction, transport,
deliquefaction, transport back is way cheaper
than just taking out of the ground
and putting in a pipeline straight to the customer.
So the European countries don't want to do this, or at least until they were strong-armed.
And what the State Department and NATO have done is they've selectively bred and financed
and politically supported all of the European political parties and candidates who have vowed to
basically go go forward with this plan and put their put their country through
an energy diversification policy and buy this expensive LNG which is skyrocketed
I should know the profits of many of these these Western exporters and so
again there's an argument maybe that's in the US interests if there was that
trickle down but I'll leave that aside but the point is is Poland basically is
a veto right on this whole plan.
Because if the Poland government says,
hey, you know what, we don't want to antagonize
the Russians, the Russians may actually attack us.
You know, this is provocative because this is in tandem
with the plan to cut off Gazprom.
Also, we don't want to become a political vassal state
of the US or the UK or NATO.
And this is what was starting to happen
with the law and order, you know, law and justice PIS party in Poland and so this whole
network the Atlantic Council network was backing to the full hilt Donald Tusk who
became the Prime Minister of Poland in I believe December 2023 with that context
Jamie can you pull on screen I just just re-upped these receipts.
I've been posting this for months, but this is very,
everyone should see this with their own eyes.
Because this gets back to OCCRP
and state-sponsored media to prosecute people.
This gets back to the role of the USAID capacity building,
the networks around prosecutors here in the US,
the USAID capacity building the
prosecutor networks and we should get to that on Brazil. But let's, can we start here with
Poland?
Yeah. We kind of like bypass the whole music industry.
Oh, my God. No, wait, we've just, we've just started on that. Okay. Here's an easy one.
Look up, look up the US music diplomacy program.
So this is the, this is, but this is all music overseas or use music domestically as well
Well, that's the issue is because there's this interplay for so first. I came back to the Dua Lipa
Atlantic Council thing so again essentially, you know, she's calling out human rights abuses from you know, the these Balkan governments
You know with a with a family pedigree and popularity in Kosovo and other places that are hugely
in the geopolitical crosshairs right now. And so, and I'm not saying whether it's good or bad. Again,
I'm not even weighing in on, you know, the
humanitarian abuses or whatnot. What I'm saying is, is it's music as an instrument of statecraft.
Dua Lipa is, this is the the US military, the
State Department, USAID, seven CIA directors, the Burisma Networks because
you know she's got tens of millions of social media followers, people
you know who are die-hard follower concert, she's an international superstar
and her public support for calling out human rights abuses by you know these
these Balkan governments that are in the crosshairs of the US State Department
Makes it easier to prosecute those political figures just like with the OCC RP publishing hit pieces for hire
These people become less popular because the people who love Dua Lipa have to sort of hate those
US State Department enemies this has been going on forever. Okay?
Jazz diplomacy the State Department was doing This has been going on forever, okay? Jazz
diplomacy. The State Department was doing this with black African jazz
musicians to win the soft power war against the Soviet Union in Africa in
the 1940s. State Department was working with Louis Armstrong and most of the major jazz
musicians because Russia, the Soviet Union, was making the argument in these
newly sovereign independent African countries who had to pick a side in the great power competition that america was
racist america discriminates against african americans uh... there's there's
all this you know uh...
upward mobility limitations there's you know there's no legal pretty you
underrepresented the government
the marxist socialist
egalitarian concept
of communism will liberate you from the racial inequalities of western
imperialist capitalism that and so to offset that
we did jazz diplomacy and pull us up on screen as i talk about this jamie just
see see this on state dot gov you can we can look up this old this list rem
telling you
and look up you know died US State Department jazz diplomacy and just
Louis Armstrong initially pushed back on it though he said the way they're
treating my people in the south the government can go to hell yes well many
of them did or had a complicated relationship with it but you can I mean
you can look up everyone like you know for example they targeted you know other
you know African-American musicians who were you know other you know African American musicians who
were you know who are using their platform who's the guy who sings a Old
Man River Paul oh my god why am I blank on the name
dizzy Gillespie yeah dizzy Gillespie head of the first State Department
sponsored tour okay but we've this is every job telling you it's every single
genre of music is it brown music as well oh Oh my god rap music. Can I tell the
evolution from from you know jazz to classical to rock music to rap? Sure. So
so in the 1950s and 60s and again Jamie you can just follow along as I'm saying
all this if you want to put on screen. There was a big classical music, Shostakovich and other Russian, Soviet classical composers
were more popular in Europe than American ones were and these were big aristocratic
concerts and elites and they would be listening to Russian, they'd be listening to Russian
music and getting to know you Russian culture and that would
that would come the money would flow into the institution's prestige would
insert a combat that
the CIA backed a front group in this is all public
you know public announced called the Congress or cultural freedom sponsored
American classical musicians to travel abroad their sponsored
classical music concerts in rome and in and in paris
and in and in germany
in order to
pop up
and sponsor
and have you are classical musicians be more predominant distribution
or
uh... or or basically you know dominate you know we know what at
the time were effectively you know the airwaves in Europe and or do that we
did the same thing with rock music you know for example I mentioned pussy riot
and and pussy riot being you know backed by USAID and NED in 2012 in in Russia but
also look at the the German rock music seen that uh... you
know in
we were sponsoring these
you protest rock anthems against authoritarian governments
all over the iron curtain
uh... you know throughout the cold war in fact we were sponsoring them basically
right up against the side of the berlin wall
as we were taking it down
everyone right now can go on youtube.com and watch the the documentary called taking taking
down a dictator which is a in-depth pro-regime change I think was PBS who
produced it this is US government funded media where it has in-depth interviews
with with all of the architects of the
color revolution against Slobodan Milosevic in the 1990s working with a
group called OATPOR which received 72 million dollars of US taxpayer funding
in order to pump up their political operations. Again I'm not weighing in on
whether it was good or bad you know I leave it to the to the audience to you
know make their own determination but you can see how even in
that effectively state sponsored documentary.
It's the State Department's website. It's just going through the years of the music
diplomacy.
Yeah, and we're going to have a lot more on that when we get to the rap program because
they just sponsored 22 rappers and hip hop artists from around the world to personally
come to the State Department and be trained in youth engagement and democracy mobilization in
their countries and art as activism. 22 rappers from Cameroon, Algeria, France,
we'll pull that up as we as we get to it. But coming back to the
I think we're on the rock music side
of these, they were sponsoring this protest rock.
Okay, just lost my thread for a second.
I felt like I was.
Have you ever read that Laurel Canyon book?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
About the CIA's involvement in the rock scene
in the 1960s?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, weird scenes inside the canyon.
Yeah.
I think it would benefit greatly from a lot of the stuff
that I'm laying out now,
to see how these things had a foreign purpose
for pumping up a domestic scene
and why you see these military interlinkages
with all these music promoters.
For example, they sent,
in that Grey Zone article I recommended in Cuba, USAID ran that operation to sponsor protest rap music through a contractor posing as music promoters in Cuba. You know, basically looking at these local rap groups and saying, we can make you an international star, baby,
you know, type thing.
And then they get radio distribution,
and this is how you see these Bono types and Sting types
who are at every single Save Ukraine conference.
Again, not even weighing in on the substance of it.
You know, you want distribution, you use, you know,
you use it as a barium.
And I'd be remiss if I didn't say this,
even though I know that this is going to cause
a lot of headlines.
But here's a great example of this.
The NATO Psychological Operations Planning Center
in Riga, Latvia in 2019, and you can pull this on screen.
If you type in Taylor Swift NATO,
or you type in, you know, what was it, trained to
share messaging or just trained to messaging and this was a big
news cycle. There was a huge controversy around it. A lot of people misreported it
by closing the loops on things that were that I that I didn't
say but that are open questions about what really happened which which is you
know this sort of Taylor Swift as an instrument statecraft when the example I
give here is and if you pull this up on screen if just Jamie you'll see this and
so I have it all underlined this is a public YouTube right now on NATO's formal website, the Western Military Alliance.
They set up this psychological operations,
strategic communications cell to do internet censorship
and information operations out of after Crimea
and Riga, Latvia.
And in 2019, they held a conference there
about how to use AI scanning technology
to map out narrative distribution networks on social media,
Facebook, Twitter, whatnot.
And there's three people who are at this thing.
One of them was 77th Brigade from British Intelligence
who are presenting to NATO.
One of them started their career
in the Central Intelligence Agency.
And one of them was put in the description
is someone who worked at,
who was part of the Johns Hopkins
School of International Affairs school,
but that actually was announced on the panel.
And according to their LinkedIn,
was actually working at the time for Grafica which is
the which does this internet
censorship they get seven million dollars from the Pentagon
they were incubated they were they had they were formally incubated
inside the Pentagon's Minerva initiative which is the psychological operations
research center
of the Pentagon when the Pentagon wants to do psychological operations in
Africa or in Central Asia they turn to the thought leadership the
Policy planners who pitch ideas about well, you know these tactics work
So for example one of the Minerva initiative grants not to graphic of this group
But to others because theirs was for Russia gate stuff, know sort of psychological operations you know stuff around fighting the hearts and
minds were against Russia but graphical but you know others in in the cohort
were how to secure citizen buy-in after a crisis event it in order to make
people trust their government against when we topple the government and people
think it's a it's a coup I mean basically how to get people to trust their government when they're
skeptical of it and then you turn around and see Grafica was partnered with the
Atlantic Council as well as the US Department of Homeland Security to
censor the 2020 election and partnered with you know our own NIH to censor
COVID but the fact is all three people on this panel were involved or had a
career at one point in it in intelligence work
and and specifically, you know at least with two of them psychological operations and on screen
And Jamie if you can find it you're I think you're gonna you're gonna
you're gonna save us both a lot of headache because everyone will just see it right there in red underline on a
YouTube video everyone can pull up
right now if let me know if you're having trouble finding it just trained
to spread maybe and I'll have this my time but it literally has a pitch to
NATO. I'm not sure what I'm looking for exactly for that video. It's a 2019 NATO
conference right? Yeah if you just type in if you just go to my x-feed
And you just hit the search bar and you type in Taylor Swift. I'm on YouTube though
You said to go to YouTube. No, no my x-feed is the best way to search it
But it has a a picture on that slide deck where again this is
Psychological operations planners pitching to NATO the world you know the Western world's military, and the slide has a picture of Taylor Swift and it
says basically says something like, and
when the receipts are on the screen you can
read it directly, it says, you know, example
of, you know, celebrities who can be
trained to spread desired messaging. I
think that was the exact phrase, trained
to spread desired messaging. And
the presenter goes over the drawbacks of
this and how, and you know, what we need to decide, some over the drawbacks of this and how and you know what we need
aside
so the more efficacy of this but
basically saying that with the artiller swift has worked in various things
before that have been empirically shown to move the needle on government
initiatives
for example her get out the vote
you know uh... or get out the vote work uh... increase the vote
her public health campaign stuff
bob by and that would don't that video has like her so they get positive that
they're not going to scroll up scroll
right there positive
and if you if you see that goal identified key actors to train and
spread desired messaging
this is on nato's
we pay for nato
we paid
for this to be pitch now
here's where some of the story got misreported
i don't know that anyone from nat directly reached out to Taylor Swift or her campaign
to do that.
I'd, this, and if they did, this would not be formalized in a formal Pentagon grant or
quid pro quo, but I should note, look at who the biggest sponsor of South by Southwest is
in, in Texas now.
It's the military.
Go ahead and look up the scandal if you want about uh... south by southwest uh... pentagon funding
they've taken over the music industry because it's the hearts and minds work
okay i guess that just happened in twenty twenty four let's see the if you
if you go to
okay so this is cause so much problems
uh... from for the past couple years that i guess they're now they're now
roper reforming this but if you if you run a bully and search for before
2024 you'll see this but basically the Pentagon or if you scroll down maybe it might be right there
So it caused this big boycott because the Pentagon in tandem with this music diplomacy program in these USA aid backing of these things
Okay. Well, that's it. That's a that's a u s army in palestine one but
you'll see the numbers on this basically
the pentagon
moves into this
just like they were
giving dual leap of the awards just like the work with pussy riot just like they
have twenty two in fact you can look this up if you want the state for a
music diplomacy program twenty two rappers hip-hop
these people become network notes they become assets to play with
an incredible example of this
that i that i hesitate to
to discuss here because i know that the
organization
that these documents we'd be from this is contesting uh... you know the it you know these documents leaked from is contesting
you know these documents but there's
there's evidence to suggest the same play around recruiting the hip hop artists in Cuba
and you know in break dancing news diplomacy meets hip hop twenty two artists visit the u s this is the u s state department we are paying to recruit them as assets so when
they go and you go and look at the country list
if you if you want look how far and why this is to the edges of the earth
you know uh... it you know the mongolia
cameroon
you know there's there's a whole there thing here. But basically, it was protest rock, you know, it was protest rap in Cuba for that USAID
operation.
It was protest rap.
You know, there's language, for example, in this gray zone report around Bangladesh,
and I'll leave it to the current fight between them and the National Democracy about the
nature of those documents but you
know those documents that the gray zone published have two rap songs in
Bangladesh that have lines like they were designed to inspire anti-government
act sentiment and to and to promote street protests and uh... and political reform i mean
it literally writing
rap albums to get people to take to the streets
and pull off the exact riot that the state or wants to destabilize the
country
music penetrates i mean this is what they got really taxes during the cold
war
and enter in the nineteen eighties because
it's it's a kind of back in documents, they talk about how sponsoring individual artists
is actually sometimes a lot more effective
because they do art and activism.
While they're doing, they're putting on these festivals,
they're promoting an agenda at the festivals.
While they are putting these songs on radio distribution
and supercharging their brand,
those songs have themes and messages
about taking down
authoritarian governments and the people got to rise up and you know,
you have to represent the will of the people, we have to end poverty,
you know, and then they'll make the arguments, the government's fault that
there's poverty, we have to end racial or gender inequality and then
the State Department or USAID will be working through its demographic segmentation with those exact groups. This is another reason
we've been pumping up these
feminist groups and these LGBT groups. If you want for example you can pull up the
WikiLeaks CIA red cell memo that showed how the CIA
pitched to the State Department in the during the Afghanistan war
that the best way to shore up additional funds from European parliaments
is to transition states' media octopus messaging from a national security predicate for the
war to a feminism and a women's empowerment one because of field work and polling from
the Central Intelligence Agency around
Europe showed that European parliaments and and voting demographics felt it said
on surveys that they were more more willing to give money or wanted to give
more money from their their own government coffers their own taxpayer
funds to the war in Afghanistan if it was about stopping repression against women or if it was about giving women more rights in the
society and whatnot and so that that wasn't because the CIA loves feminism
now this was a cold calculated instrument of statecraft to shift the
messaging and then also to work with these exact groups who have that
cleavage point axed to grind
against their country as part of the mobilizations.
It's how you see a lot of these women's marches and women's protests, or you see a lot of
these sort of protected class ones, because that also gets you the human rights predicate
to add sanctions and other protected speech measures.
Like this is why the State Department pushed Facebook to put hate speech provisions in place
to stop hate speech against the Rohingya.
One of the things that's come up
that has been talked about quite a bit
over the last couple of years
is that the government had some sort of an influence
on the emergence of gangsta rap and the promotion of it.
What do you know about that?
I don't have a good record
You know in the in the 80s and 90s
There's there's a lot of strange things there
And I want to tell you what I really feel
um it is highly controversial though, and I
I um
I'm not sure with everything else that we're covering and
some of the other things that I you know I'd like to be able to just hit before
the conversation concludes about about USAID's control and influence over
prosecutors and an example in Brazil since I know that a lot of people in
Brazil want to get to Brazil okay yeah I'm gonna get a lot of trouble if I say this.
When you read that national endowment for democracy,
oh, we didn't do the Poland one.
Can I just, can we circle back to this in one second
before, just because this really is
an appropriate international incident
to talk about this here.
If you go to my ex feed and you just type in search Poland or the word PIS as a one-off or you can just
scroll down you'll see I reupped it you know earlier this morning you're gonna
see the National Down for Democracies in-house journal called the Journal of
Democracy again the NED is this CIA front group the New York Times reported
the CIA gets a copy
of every grant that they make.
Their own founders say that they were created,
that the CIA got in trouble for sponsoring
pro-democracy groups around the world in the 1960s,
and that's why we don't do it anymore,
and that's why the National Endowment was created,
basically to take the baton from the CIA
during that transition
between Carter anti-CIA and and Reagan pro-CIA this was the compromise between
left and right and that that's why they have two political cores IRI and NDI but
can you pull that back up okay USAID's partner in operations arm National
Down for Democracy has been specifically demanding down to us government in
Poland must find ways to arrest high ranking members of the PIS party in order to quote stamp out populism they wrote this
the first month in office so and again you'll see this is responding to someone facing three years
for language let's click on this and again we pay as taxpayers for the production of national
announcement for democracies in-house journal the journal democracy so what what what what what can you can you
to some out of it
when you see this yet
gaga perfect
how to dismantle the liberal democracy so again
nato was at war with the p i s party
they want a more cooperation on
security on economic issues whole other can of worms they wanted donald tusk
the pro e u prone super pronato uh... candidate to win
uh... he wins
the month he takes office is december twenty three
national out for moxie the c i a publishes this let think peace
how does mental in a liberal democracy and again
i think formally you know it's published here is supposed to you know
not technically it's published in the net publication doesn't means that from
policy but this is what they're publishing you're paying for
how did so they're saying listen it's not an autocracy in poland
unfortunately we can't call it a dictator like putin the ccp
it's democracy because the people voted for it and the one fair and square
but it's in liberal democracy because
the democratic institutions don't you know are not are not having their way
but here's what it says. Poland may be setting out its first steps in quote, stamping out
populism and holding those responsible for the worst violations of rule of law.
That means the criminal justice system. Now get to the next one. Next slide.
Poland's new government must therefore do more than just return to liberal
democracy. It must address transitional justice, the same thing, all over every U.S. aid operation.
It has to arrest the people from the government we just transitioned from.
Prime Minister Tusk and his coalition must, again, not should, not maybe should consider,
maybe if there's something there, must stabilize the political system, mean rain in that against losing in the next election
to ensure that populism does not return in the next election
while trump is a populist president
bolson i was a populist president marine lapin is populist in france
but they'll see the news populist in italy the box part but this is
state department us a policy everywhere in this part of the can of worms is gonna have to be unwoven here but this
is a direct order
that in order to make sure you win the next election and we don't need to keep
funding you or or projecting our wedding our soft power apparatus a prop you up
arrest these people so they can't run against you again go to the next one
he's in that
it's not just tell them
that you must do it
if you want to get u s eight support like the beret you know the ucraine uh...
ukraine berets malone typing
but here's what says the new coverage therefore focus attention on whether and
how spectacles can be punished
at present there are a number of cases that should be tried immediately
the hotspot
the frigging
hotspot
this is a foreign cut for as far as the polish people's people are concerned
this is a foreign
government
foreign c i a front apparatus
imploring their own elected government about which citizens there that they
need to arrest those citizens
and even giving them the list of targets
imagine if the russian ministry of affairs sent donald trump said not only
do you have to
uh... you know uh... arrest
the remnants of the of the
kamala harris joe biden campaign
but we're giving the list of target names
here's who pambandi the attorney general
file criminal indictments against
this is an international incident again
technically i believe what's published here is not they're not supposed to be
you know does not represent it's like retweets are not endorsements
but you're paying for this organization
you're paying for this journal
and this is what they're publishing as a command to a foreign country
this is a trump ally by the way that that that the i s party which is another
part of this net is doing a boomerang attack
by preventing p i s is uh... popularity in poland they do a boomerang attack
against the farm policy
international coalition that trumpets
so here the case is these include the twenty fifteen appointment judges
to sell going as arresting people for appointing judges
here's no one to arrange a suppose of the unconstitutional presidential
election by mail-in voting during the pandemic
w two e a t f
we hate railed uh...
it was practically a crime to not support
uh... mail-in bet mail-in voting
now with that with the national effort of our secure but over there
it's they're saying it's a crime to have done it
and then the yellow range is supposedly unconstitutional president election by
mail-in voting during the pandemic
why yes
we can get all into this u s a denny d rabbits nesting all the domestic
entanglements a lot
and also the twenty twenty visa scandal
uh... yeah uh... yet like
this is the same thing they did you give you you've ever seen the aloha andro
myorkis is visa scandal from when he was in the obama d h s and he was the deputy
there
you can pull this up on google i believe it's twenty fifteen
the guy who was our head of the h s which is the domestic interplay with all
these farm blob organizations
was busted by zone inspector general
in this in at
doing fast pass no look expedited veto visas for for uh... you know for obama
political donors
and not had putting it through the process you know just it
and the visa scandals are all over this year it was john brennan
as c i station chief by the way and uh... in in saudi arabia
uh... in in the rock tonight eleven
issue
who together with the u.s. consulate
issued the visas to fifteen of the nineteen nine eleven hijackers that was
our visas now look they're only eleven of the nineteen were saudis
they were actually giving the saudi visas to non-saudis in nineteen fifteen of the 19 were Saudis. They were actually giving Saudi visas to non Saudis and night 15 of the 19
You can read all about this in the in the guy who ran the visa desk for that US consulate is J
Michael Springman. He wrote a book called visas for terrorists
Yeah, where he goes over how the whole the whole thing was done
But wait, wait, I'm not done. There's there's one more there's can you on on that?
but that we we are not done this there's one more this can you on on that can you
Pull up the fourth the fourth one the fourth thing because it's a doozy. So go to the go to the next one
These are just illustrative tips the cases and maybe just the tip of the iceberg of
Who are CIA front group our USAID operations arm is saying must be done
Naturally the leader of the law and justice party himself the democratic elected president
does what happened to donald trump now after the transitional justice that
happened when buying justice department of power starting to make a little bit
more sense now
should be held responsible
but legally proving allegations against him will likely be difficult
damn the problem is we don't have a case we want to arrest him but
uh... we actually don't really have anything good to get him on so let's
get all his his lieutenants
the objective
pacification stability you don't need to worry about the winning the next
election
st populism
as a political possibility in Poland will be stamped out because the intelligence networks and the money arm of USAID and the corrupted and warped prosecutors are all on the take.
Jesus.
By the way, multiply this problem basically in every country on earth because we can get to a dozen of these.
Here's a fun, can I do a fun exercise real quick?
Sure. Here's a fun, can I do a fun exercise real quick? Go to google.com and just, you know,
I'd mentioned this exercise before,
just literally, we're just gonna go maybe five, six pages
and just read what pops up.
And I haven't even fully done this exercise.
I'm just, I'm so confident in what I'm about to say
that we can do it live.
Go to Google and type in USAID and then again,
bullying quotes, the phrase the phrase quote judicial reform
i can also show you have i've you showed some experience okay all right
so yeah let's just go through a list of countries that we are whether we are
seizing the judiciary
we are influencing the judges
the courts the legal system the criminal justice system the prosecutors
okay let's just start up
to work okay
so uh... what what is that country you cook on that link for second and go back
in the project in the republic what republic is that
serbia
what do you know
we're back to do a leap up
can't stop now
so so we are to be our to and so
that u s that atlanta council uh...
distinguished leadership award started a little bit more sense now there's an in process
uh... attempt to
uh... basically bribe and co-opt the very same criminal justice system that
our state sponsored uh... musical performers
i should say sponsors are state awarded
uh... ones are are calling to take action gets a kill us look at what's the
next one this one didn't come up
they give me a blank page
i mean that's it's down okay for advancing you e integration queen see
the country name and number two
that didn't really didn't like a e integration
that's like for example they want to you know fold these
eat the ucraine into the e you've read this bit of big
you know big thing about this join the market you know does join nato
that's that's what this is how do we get the criminal justice system on board
you know with basically criminalizing opposition to it
uh... and we can keep wait just keep keep scrolling down which can do this
for like four five pages i just wanna
you know you'd like literally every single one of these is a government
program okay so here there that that one above was d r c with democrat
republic of congo k where
how we are uh... taking over the court systems in in congo are gone gone to the
next page here okay uh on to the next page, or here?
Okay, yeah, next page.
Okay, so let's see here, okay, more on Congo, okay.
Uzbekistan, we're doing this in Uzbekistan.
Albania, we're doing it in Albania.
Yeah, it keeps going down here.
Let's see, El Salvador, we were doing it in El Salvador.
This is one of the reasons you can imagine to kill a was the first one on
x to say
oh my god
there's no more rent rights in al salvador and one why was u s eight so
opposed to what we were we're doing getting the drug networks
okay here's here's for u krain
here's for uh...
uh... is uh... central america
here's uh... more for serbia here's for georgia
every this is stock standard doctrine
it's the same u.s. aid truman show everywhere we go this thing has been
dialed in for sixty years
that's why i say it's going to be fifty years to untangle this
because you can run the political head was all time
you don't think you're gonna have money flowing back to the public are going to
go straight to the partners in europe
and you know around the world to to the... By the way, they're gonna go straight to their partners in Europe and around the world
to do top-up funding for what they lose from USAID.
For example, they might go to the European Endowment for Democracy.
They might go...
The EU may have to start making funds to these US anti-Trump networks.
They may have to tap into their allies in China or their you know their allies and other central american or uh... or south
american governments
mark my words
st that u s a truman show that joints you know
these sensors in exile these you know regime changers in exile right now are
going to club on
to every international ally the human can't humanly can they will be
they will be
pressurizing the united nations
pressurizing multi-lateral organizations like nato the e u
uh... and and you know
even some of these economic development tax
uh... to use
the critical components they have there and sometimes dominant
spot they have there and sometimes dominant spot they have there to weaponize those assets and that gets back to this sort of EU fight but I can pause and move to Brazil for pause FP okay when I come back rap music Brazil yeah so first hip hop yeah okay the thing that you think you're gonna get in trouble for you know, maybe this well you already teased it I
Think it was the 2009 national depth and national out for democracy
Cuba rap journal of democracy article that I believe was co-authored by Ned's founder Carl Gershman
You know who openly said that Ned does what the CIA used to do, that they effectively took the
baton from it. And again, the CIA has copies, according to the Washington Post and New York
Times of every grant Ned makes. When you look at the analysis, the in-house analysis done by Ned there, that there was this dense interplay
between the Afro-Cuban population
and the drug networks in Cuba.
And then you look at the role of hip hop and drug culture
in retailing what is wholesaleed in obviously USAID, CIA, Pentagon, narco
networks. Like for example we talked about the Mujahideen, narco network. They
even set up a CIA bank right there to back it. We did the same thing in
1960, USAID set up in 1961 at the very moment,
two weeks before USAID was created, JFK awarded the green beret to the Special
Forces. Just two weeks before that. Then he creates USAID, that was October 1961,
November 1961 he creates USAID, December 1961, one month after he launches
Operation Pincushion in Laos for the US Special Forces
to train and recruit hillside guerrillas in Laos
who are primarily funded by the drug networks that they sit on in the Golden Triangle.
They sat on the opium of the Golden Triangle and the way they financed their own guerrilla war ci ci backed war and this is all well known
Bing Pow was the CIA it was the commander there of the CIA mercenary rebel forces there
In in you know, this is 1961 to 1967 in this period
I'm talking about special forces go over there to recruit these hillside guerrillas
They form an army Bing Pow is made the head of it. This is gonna connect to the rap thing in a sec
Bing Pow was Ving Pao is made the head of it. This is gonna connect to the rap thing in a sec. Ving Pao was financing the CIS mercenary army
by retailing the opium from Laos
into these networks in Southeast Asia,
like the C.I. proprietary banks,
like everyone can look up Nugent Hand Bank
or Castle Bank and Trust,
these C.I. banks that were set up
to wander basically drug proceeds and they all
got in a lot of trouble for this in a few decades ago. Now the problem was is
they couldn't sell enough because they were a scrappy little upstart you know
group of hillside guerrillas. So what did USAID do in 1967? This is the
1960s how long this has been going on. So they were recruited by the special
forces, they were managed by the Central Intelligence Agency, USAID provided the financing, and this is
all in according to and in the Senate testimony of Professor Alfred McCoy, this is his book called
The Politics of Her heroin in Southeast Asia
He's testified from the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1972. He detailed all this in his book, but
USAID
financially provided the financial assistance for ving pow and his
Narco terrorist network to purchase two airplanes from two CI proprietary
network to purchase two airplanes from two CIA proprietary companies. One of them was Air America, another one was Continental Air Services. Both of these
have been revealed in subsequent years to be CIA proprietary airlines. So the
CIA commander, the commander of the CIA Rebel Army, buys two planes from two CIA
airlines and then uses them to traffic and retail the
drugs by selling them to the market in Vietnam where we had special forces
boots on the ground. So basically it was wholesaleed by the CIA in that case and
then it was the logistics for that network were provided by USAID and then
it was retailed to poor unsuspecting souls all over Southeast Asia.
Play the same game in the Golden Crescent with Afghanistan.
Play the same game with the cocaine trade in its route from Peru and Bolivia up into
Colombia and then up into the distribution networks in Miami, Los Angeles, Chicago, you
name it.
When you start having organized crime and drugs
as the front end that retails the products and services
that are wholesale and part of a intelligence or military operation, you know, you can't sell those drugs by having someone with a Department of Defense ID badge on the street corner, you know, on 187th and Broadway. Those there are retail networks for that and that is the role of many of these drug mule and organized crime
Networks all over the world and I have serious concerns about
Networks in Chicago, I mean, you know Gary Webb obviously wrote all about this in Dark Alliance and
You know, there's all sorts of fantastic books on all this if, if you want to read more, like Operation Gladio by Paul Williams.
And there's so much in this field,
but the role of narcotics is in financing
black budget military covert operations
in every major place they spring
is a black box that is not my crusade. Frankly, again, I wish we didn't even go here because, but I do feel like you do need to have a side-eye glimpse into some of these worlds to understand internet censorship.
Because you are going to find USAID NGOs, if Bukele had not done the radical reforms that he had had
the internet would have been completely censored by USAID and the State
Department in order to rig hearts and minds against against him because they
would have they would want to stop him from cleaning out the these drug gangs he
was stopping cleaning up the crime you're gonna see the same thing about fact-checkers in Pakistan and you know for example according to
the Grey Zone report on US aid and NED in Bangladesh and in fact this is
actually I believe on the US embassy in Pakistan's website, the
countering misinformation training seminar they had with the guy who's now the top foreign advisor in Pakistan and
they brought in the executive director of PolitiFact, flew him all the way out to
the U.S. Embassy in Pakistan to train journalists about how to counter
misinformation. These same journalists center seminars. We're seeing you in our news do we see steps do you know?
We see at the Atlanta Council do
But I come back to
The US Institute for peace on a live URL as we speak not even two years ago
Made an impassioned plea to the Taliban to keep 95% of the world's heroin flowing
You have to
Explain that to the American people that is the State Department's policy
If us us is to a piece is not going to go rogue against the State Department foreign policy there
Because they're funded by the State Department
You see the same thing with these ISIS terrorist drug
narco networks.
Anyone remember the WikiLeaks email?
Jake Sullivan to Hillary Clinton while Hillary Clinton
was Secretary of State.
ISIS is on our side in Syria.
Well, that means the more of those poppy crops
that get retailed off to
ISIS networks, the more powerful and well-financed they are the more
they can pay their soldiers or stop their soldiers from defecting as from
being mercenaries and lo and behold that same network just toppled the Syrian
government and I should note structuring through USAID is the sauce to
this because the there is a sitting tweet from the US Embassy in Syria from 2017 when Trump was wiping out ISIS
that put a 10 million dollar bounty on the head of Mohammed Al Jalani, the commander of those
forces, the current basically head of state in the interim government in Syria. There was a 10
million dollar bounty on his head under Trump.
They made the argument that his HTS group was an al-Qaeda spinoff and no al-Qaeda allowed.
Well, according to his own military generals, who said this openly in mainstream media after
the fact, we were constantly playing shell games with the numbers to hide the troop activity and you know and what we were doing on the ground in Syria and and the broader region if you don't need
a presidential finding to finance a terrorist group or a paramilitary group
it's too dirty for CIA president won't approve run through USAID and was this
have to do with hip-hop well, you have these narco networks.
Like for example, like what I was saying about,
the USAID bought the airplanes for the CI,
for the wholesalers to move it to the retailers.
And when you have this intersection
between hip hop and the drug economy,
hip hop popularizing it, you have a lot of between hip-hop and the drug economy, hip-hop
popularizing it, you know you have a lot of these rappers who've said you know
we're told by our promoters or our managers to you know you know lean into
that stuff, you have the whole organized crime gang, I'll give you an example this
is in Gary Webster Alliance where he goes through this network from you know
basically the CIA playing us and the war and the
Defense Department playing a leading role in propping up these narcotics trades in South America
because they were pumping up right-wing death squads and right-wing paramilitary
narco gang networks that were violent and effectively shut down left-wing Marxist
theology movements who were considered pro-soviet. This is how you have a lot of this
for example with Iran-Contra and the Reagan years. So he makes a
very compelling case about the role of the US intelligence community and at the
wholesale level in Peru and Bolivia and at the actual
processing in Colombia and then the movement and and at the actual processing in in Columbia and then the
movement and transport to the to the gangs in Los Angeles and Miami and
Chicago and the like and that wholesale movement effectively goes from you know
Langley slash Crystal City in DC DC Virginia to a sort of you know Hispanic population in in South America
into you know into you know other you know into gangs that are retailing it you know in
into these Compton gangs into these you know
you know these Chicago and and Miami and New ones, you have a culture of drug use
that creates a market for selling the proceeds so that drugs can be turned into cash, which
can then be used to purchase guns.
And when you see this liquid seamlessness there, and then, you then, I don't want to tax Jamie too much,
but this Grey Zone report in Bangladesh
has specific language with the National
Dammit for Democracy and one of its sub arms
making explicit grants to Bangladeshi rap groups
for the explicit purpose of getting people to
take to the streets in in street riots and protest movements and to undermine
public faith and public confidence and favorable sentiment for the then
in power Bangladeshi government in the art in you know they were they were
targeting the youth movements remember when we pulled up the 22 hip-hop artists
on screen and the whole thing was about youth mobilization?
These people formed the front end of the destabilization.
So your argument is essentially that this game plan
is ubiquitous and that this game plan is done
in the United States too to promote drug use
and drug selling which they profit off of.
I'm not even going that far.
What I'm saying is there's a useful role
of music and other artistic and cultural ventures
for creating a market for something
that helps U.S. statecraft.
For example, this is the major major major scandal. The head of the
Central Intelligence Agency, John Deusch, had to had to travel to Compton in 1997,
I believe that was the year, in order to plead with the black population there
that what had happened with the CIA's role in the drug trade was a sort of
you know occasional one-off accident, wasn't authorized, wasn't supposed to happen.
But the fact is, those narco networks supported
the Nicaraguan Contra movement.
You needed a market to sell it.
And those were inner city urban populations
in Los Angeles that were, they weren't the ones
growing the cocaine, that was in in Peru and Bolivia
And then it was processed in Colombia and then it was you know, that's all that stuff that Michael Rupert exposed
Yeah, there's there's been a there's been a million and it's everywhere you look and it's not just South and then again
I don't want to you know, this stuff is all to me just interesting. I don't have a hard opinion on it. I
I almost don't want to
take away from you know so much of the important factual stuff where I have the
receipts on screen but what I'm saying is you are going to see resistance from
very strange pockets as you do this disdain entangling process. How many
people knew that you know an arm of the State Department right next door to it
that gets all of its money from the State Department who sets the foreign policy is telling the
Taliban to keep the drug networks open or that same arm is going after Bucaylee
when he tries to arrest the drug criminals in El Salvador
which by the way was the most intense of these narco right-wing, you know, death squads, you know, during the,
you know, during the Cold War. And we pump up every cultural vector we can.
Again, you know, watch taking down a dictator, that documentary, and look at
the role of music in the State Department's eyes in being able to
galvanize street protest movements, gets everyone on the street united, gets
everyone listening to the same thing. They're all sort of, you know, aligned like a magnet.
I mean, there's, I mean, even look at places like the Azov Battalion and
how they sort of grew out of this black metal rap, you know, black metal music,
you know, coalition, you know, with, you know, highly extremist lyrics and
whatnot in Ukraine. The same sort of extremist lyrics you saw in the bangladeshi rap songs or the
call to take to the streets in the cuban ones
and again this has been going on a long time
look at the look at the lyrics of a of a pussy riot song and remember this that
they literally eight p are standing at the
who was texture states podium
you know uh... with arm in arm with the US State
Department. Well, you know, so and everyone can look up, you know,
you know, C.I.'s role in rock and whatnot, there's great Guardian articles about all
this as well, but it's more to say, coming back to this USA Truman show, that
everything and anything can be
an instrument of statecraft.
Whether that's the prosecutors, the universities,
the unions, the media, the social media, arts, dance.
This is where you get these transgender dance festivals
and this demographic segmentation,
to see who hates the government.
Well, if the government is cracking down on transgenderism
or is not kind to it or they feel like they want more rights, that's a useful demographic as a cleavage point for
the US State Department to capacity build, flow money to so that they can be used as
a battering ram.
And I'm not endorsing that, but that is just why we work with these people.
I understand what you're saying.
Okay.
We're running out of time, so let's get to Brazil.
Yeah.
Okay. on time, so let's get to Brazil. Yeah, okay. So Jamie, I sent you a bunch of these, you know,
screenshots that, you know, my foundation
is gonna be publishing in our final report,
but I wanted to just go through these here
because we've been talking about the role
of the criminal justice system more than anything.
You know, media is rigged, okay.
It's a headline, it's a reputational smudge,
it can cost you your job. When the criminal justice system and the judges are rigged and
the prosecutors are rigged, you don't even have a country anymore because they can arrest
the president, they can arrest the politicians. And it's a shortcut to control over the whole side. And we went through examples with Ukraine,
Burisma, Serbia, we went through that whole exercise.
But Jamie, if you can pull on screen,
we can just go through the text messages,
this will be the last thing,
of USAID's role with the judiciary in Brazil.
And specifically against Bolsonaro who is
targeted by these anti misinformation populist president populist right-wing
pot they called him the Trump of the tropics same thing part of that same
international coalition let me know if you have any trouble okay okay yeah
what maybe if you start with the first one actually. I think this is it, unless I'm in the wrong way. Yeah, if you, oh no, okay, maybe scroll down.
Do you see the ones where you have the lead judge?
I'm just trying to stop speaking your phone number too.
Because if I put the wrong thing on the screen,
your phone number's gonna show.
Oh yeah, sure.
Okay, so how about just the pictures with the pan,
okay, here you go.
So yeah, we can start with that one. We start with that one right there.
That image right there.
Does that.
Second, I look familiar.
This is the Lord.
Actually, he actually looks kind of
like a mixture of both of us, Joe.
It's funny.
But this is the man that they call
the Lord Voldemort Judge of Brazil.
This is the head of the TSE, the
censorship court, which is the subgroup
of their supreme court
and here you see a seminar
uh... that that he is being trained in
that name rebel steps
uh... you have a hours of review nine aspect of the steps program the u s a
program that that
explicitly set its its job but to get foreign countries and foreign courts
to pass censorship laws.
This is USAID funded and implemented by the National Anthropocene Democracy.
This is CEPHs.org, but this gets much, if you go back to the panel, I'll show you more
on this.
All right, there you go.
Okay, yeah, okay, here's another one.
CEPHs' core partner, IFES, this is basically the election strengthening,
teaming up directly with Brazil's TSE court.
That is the censorship court that seized X's,
that shut down X and that seized Starlink's assets
and that effectively criminalized the speech
of virtually any significant pro-Balconer voice in Brazil.
This is our USAID network doing the training,
doing the networking, and if you go back, I'm just going to show a
couple more of these. Okay, this is Internews. Internews, who we covered,
500 million dollars from USAID every single year in Brazil doing
training seminars for how to flag pro Bolsonaro disinformation.
I can go on and on.
I got layers of all these different judges and the pitches to the prosecutors to arrest
it.
The whole thing was a USA Truman show taking over the judiciary or at least substantially
influencing and tilted to take out their political enemy, Bolsonaro, the whole way down.
And X is still banned in Brazil? No I believe X
you know entered into compliance by by taking certain actions. So they have to
censor? Yes I believe they yes there's they're still subject to the to the
edicts of the court. I should note. Oh say lift ban October 8th. Yeah. After it pays
a five million dollar fine, right, right
But and by the way, but the ban the ban is in place essentially to keep us now for gaining power
Well, right. Well, they wanted to they wanted to make sure that you know again, it's the same thing with Poland
They want to achieve stability democratic stability so that he can't rise hugely popular right now
It was a razor-cl. And remember, we pulled a lot of tricks around that
and you're gonna find a lot more of that
when you look into the role of unions
like the National for Democracy Solidarity Center
and the whole suite there.
Remember, we literally pulled favors with Taiwan,
this is reported in the Financial Times,
in order to get them the the semiconductor chips to build the voting
machines against against Bolsonaro's wishes the CIA head of the CIA went
down and threatened him Bill Burns did the head of the Pentagon went down and
you met with the army to tell them you know you have to trust the result of the
election is that Lloyd Austin the head of the Pentagon you know we're saying
the head of the CIA the head of the Pentagon. You know we're saying the head of the CIA, the head of the military, we're running semiconductor
chips just so that they can make voting machines that the elected head of state
doesn't want and then you know we're funding their you know workers
movements through. So we have a very specific outcome that we want and then we also make
sure that they use voting machines that we
provide. I'm not even weighing into the voting machine issue except to say that
it's it's very strange that that we would divert semiconductor supplies
bound for the US during a critical shortage and give them to a foreign
government to put in voting machines that the that the elected head of state
doesn't want. That's a very curious thing you can read about all the you know
inside details of that published in the Financial Times and other places. Jesus. It's also daunting.
You know, it's just, it's so overwhelming. How do you sleep? Well, I say I don't.
But we have an opportunity. We've already done more than anyone has ever done.
No foreign facing government agent, no cog in the wheel of this dirty tricks apparatus
has ever had 14,000, nine point eight percent of the
you know the workforce laid off the
you know that the name taken off the building with from a month
in terms of the the lightning speed of it
i feel uh... a sense of hope
and optimism
spiritual fulfillment if that's too big a phrase to say,
but I don't, you don't see me happy
or doing cartwheels or, it doesn't really show on my face
because I know the scale and the duration of this fight
is going to continue for the rest of my lifetime.
And so I don't, this is not a sprint period.
We're running fast, but it's a marathon the whole way. What's
unbelievably baffling to me is the complete absence of the coverage of all
these things that should be very concerning in mainstream media. Complete
absence. All the discussion, the negative anti-Trump discussion about USAID shutting down is all
the good that it does.
And then also, you're going to get access to people's private data.
That's all you're hearing.
You're hearing the gaslighting spin is those two things.
Right.
But every single one of those, people need to understand the category.
They talk about public health and all the lives and how many more people are going to have you
know AIDS and HIV. In 2014 USAID was busted running a covert operation where
according to their own you know people who are involved in the operation they
set up an HIV prevention program in foreign countries in order because it
would be the perfect excuse because counterintelligence would never think
that that the HIV clinics were that were
the place that they were using as you know as key nodes and the regime change
network how many other facilities they were caught there how many others but
never single one of those its dual purpose because the fundamental reason
you do this out of us aid is to do people and this puts this puts our
oversight bodies in a difficult spot. Let's just say we're
funding transgender dance festivals in some country because it turns out they really dislike
a government that we consider authoritarian. And so you could actually see a sort of, I
don't know the situation in Venezuela, but let's just say that the Trump administration
has been at war with Maduro and wants to pursue a policy of turning over that government and it just so happens
that that government is persecuting the transgender population and the transgender population,
if they could just be built up more, would be able to convert more hearts and minds to
vote against Maduro.
Well, you could see a sort of
if i may say
again not saying this should be done i'm just saying you could see a sort of
mega foreign policy
explanation for funding transgender dance festivals
in venezuela if that's what the baseline assessment reveals the problem is is
american people never be a lot to know about it because imagine the senate
oversight committee
why are we funding these transgender dance festivals in venezuela
oh actually because we're running a uh... ally there by the way everyone in
venezuela can watch this live hearing of the whole thing is actually carefully
constructed live because we're cynically exploiting the transgender
people
to service battering rams against the
the head of state we want to overthrow, but we have not declared that publicly. I mean, we're back to plausible deniability.
Jesus.
Whew.
This is a lot.
I think it's probably good to end right here.
Okay.
But thank you, Mike.
Thank you for everything.
Thanks for being you.
I don't think a lot of people
would chase this down like this.
And I know this is a lot of weight. It's quite a burden that you're carrying. But I mean,
I think you're being vindicated in like a scale that I've never seen before. It's pretty
impressive. And all the stuff that you were talking about before all these documents were
exposed before the Doge went into USAID, you were dead right about all of it.
Thank you. And again, I don't want to get you in trouble went into USA. You were dead right about all of it. Thank you.
And again, I don't want to get you in trouble with this stuff.
You know, some of the topics that we talked about,
like the drug stuff and the rap stuff and the, you know,
some of the terrorism stuff is not my primary focus.
I'm not making hard facial claims there.
I don't care about the Taylor Swift thing.
It's frankly, it's just fascinating
that you would see that on a native. Like, this is what I care about is Taylor Swift thing. It's frankly, it's just fascinating that you would see that on a native.
This is, what I care about is what we talked about
with its control over media, its control over prosecutors,
its control over social media and pushing social media
censorship and these sorts of things that we have
a once in a lifetime chance to reform
and I wanna thank you and express my personal gratitude
for having these difficult and I want to thank you and express my personal gratitude for having these difficult
and I'm sure taxing conversations to crack it all open.
My pleasure.
Thank you.
Alright, bye everybody.