The Little Dum Dum Club with Tommy & Karl - 189 - Shaun Micallef & Josh Earl

Episode Date: May 20, 2014

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey mates, welcome once again into the little dum-dum club for another week. My name is Tommy Dasolo, sitting next to me, the other half of the program, Carl Chandler. G'day Dickhead. What have you got for us this afternoon? Hey, well, look, thanks to everyone in Sydney that came to our show, came to the live show, packed out the big live show and put up with all of our technical difficulty. We've got the... Didn't really talk about it in the episode.
Starting point is 00:00:26 No, no, no. But yeah, there was some stuff behind the scenes. We've got the same tech today looking after the show. That looked after last week's show, so it should be going well by now. Strange tech who just grabs the microphone out of your hand and starts smashing it into the table. It wasn't particularly stranger than the way we set up last week. Hey, I just want to say to everyone that turned up and they got their free chicken, we got a big spread bot from
Starting point is 00:00:47 Nando's last week that came to everyone that came to the live show. Just a heads up, this is what happened when the chicken was put out there. Along with the technical difficulties, there was also a little bit of difficulty where I went out there and the chicken was set up and there was no, we needed cutlery
Starting point is 00:01:03 and I went out there and the cutlery disappeared and I said to one of the guys, oh, we need that cutlery that was left there before. What's happened? You haven't thrown it out, have you? And the guy went, no, not really. And I went, okay, not really? Can you just get that cutlery because we need it?
Starting point is 00:01:22 And he went, okay. And I just watched him go over to a bin, take it out and put it back there for people that were eating their chicken. And did you see people using that cutlery afterwards? I chose not to look at what happened after that. So basically what you're saying is if you were at that live episode and you've been sick this week, that's why. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Well, look, it's that thing of I think his point of view was it's not really in the bin if it's inside a bag inside the bin. So technically. What a great metaphor for people being fans of this show, just eating out of the bin of comedy. Great. If you're listening to this, it's like the bin scabbing of podcasting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Two guests today that we're very excited about. First of all, he's our old mate. You know him as the host of Speaks and Specks. Welcome back into Little Dum Dum Club, Josh Earle. Yay. Thanks. And the voice of the Rad Dad thing. Voice of Rad Dad, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:13 You don't get enough credit for that now that Speaks has taken off. I know. Or you get just about enough. Arguably too much. Yeah. Also making a long overdue return to the program, you know him from Mad as Hell. Please welcome back into the Little Dum Dum Club, Sean McAuliffe.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Thank you. How long has it been? Because I. You know him from Mad as Hell. Please welcome back into the little dum-dum club, Sean McAuliffe. Thank you. How long has it been? Because I've only been on once before, and I think it was when you were legitimised by being in a radio station. Now we're actually, we should point this out, we are actually near that very bin you were talking about earlier, Carl.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Yeah, that was about three years ago that you were on, and that was before we were legitimately in the radio station, and then not long after that, we were illegitimately in the radio station. We've been asked not to go in and now not even that. No, we've moved up. We were illegitimately in a radio station. Now we're illegitimately at the ABC.
Starting point is 00:02:54 That's good. Yeah, because I put it to you, Sean, I said, you know, now we're mobile. We can go wherever. We can go to your house or you can come to our house. What about an abandoned office at the ABC? That's fine, but when you said mobile, you know, that just means homeless. Pretty much, yeah. Comedy has changed so much since last we spoke,
Starting point is 00:03:10 so it's good that we catch up every three years. Yeah, what was going on three years ago? Oh, I don't know. Fatty Arbuckle had just put out a new feature, I think. Yes, yes, he was in a bit of trouble, was Fatty. No longer on radio, persona non grata. Fatty Arbuckle. I think talkies had just come in, so we should move on.
Starting point is 00:03:26 But Josh has gone on too. Have you been on the show since you've been on Spicks and Specks? Yes, I'm their go-to. Whoever pulls out, I replace. It's just like on TV. It's great. Josh fills a special void now where he's like, we've known him long enough, but also he's now kind of famous enough
Starting point is 00:03:44 that he's like, we can get him whenever we really need him. Yeah, like three years ago, we wouldn't have said, oh, someone pulled out Hilsey. Can you just hop in? Just hop into the show? But Sean, I don't know if you, because you're not on Twitter or Facebook or anything like that where we talked about this after it happened, so you might not be aware of this, but after you did the episode last time, we actually lost the recording. Like as you got in the elevator, I realised that it had been deleted.
Starting point is 00:04:10 So we had a month where we thought we'd done this episode with you that was never going to see the light of day. And then one of the technicians in there found the recording. So we found it somewhere on your hard drive. You found the recording. They found it next to the forks in the bin. They found our recording of you. Wow.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Yeah. Was it worth finding? I mean, did it make people sick, have diarrhea the next day? It was, because I think we tried to sort of, when it looked like it was never going to see the light of day, we tried to convince ourselves like, ah, you know, it's not that big a deal. But then getting it was like, oh no, this is, thank God we found this because this was really good.
Starting point is 00:04:45 It has more value. It has more value when you think you've lost it and you find it. And then people are accused of making the whole thing up just for a bit of theatre. And you've lost another one as well, haven't you? The only other one you've lost is the Will Anderson one. Yeah, and that one's gone forever. That's interesting because Will Anderson did a show with Dave O'Neill and Glenn Robbins called Now I'm Going to Have to Kill You.
Starting point is 00:05:05 He did it for the ABC radio show. Yeah. And they lost that. Yeah. Oh, that's right. That's right. That went south too. Did they lose your episode of that?
Starting point is 00:05:12 No, no, no. No, mine was fine. Will Anderson seems to be the cursed one. Well, yeah, the other famous thing about him a couple of years ago, he recorded a live podcast at the Melbourne Comedy Festival that was also the technicians deleted. So he's something of a curse of recording. Well, I understand. He'd done a whole season of Gruen this year and that got wiped as well. That's why we're not seeing it this year.
Starting point is 00:05:31 There was a whole extra Maxi Bon ad that he did that got deleted. The treasure that's gone missing from his canon. Sure, now, we don't usually take requests from listeners, but we've got a request. Please stop doing this show. We've got a request from Osterio to leave their building. No, we've got a request. Please stop doing this show. We've got a request from Austerio to leave their building.
Starting point is 00:05:48 No, we've got a request from a listener here that's asked something about you, a story about La Paqueta. It was a request from Dee O'Neill of Fairfield, Melbourne. Dave, what did he want? Did he want that story? This is the thing. So sometimes when we're going to do an episode, we'll pass him and he'll be like,
Starting point is 00:06:09 oh, who have you got on the show? And this time it was you. And he goes, yeah, ask him. Bloody ask him about La Paqueta. Just ask him that. But having said that, as a heads up, a couple of weeks ago we did an episode with Jamal where he said, oh, ask him about,
Starting point is 00:06:20 he used to be a windscreen wiper on Punt Road. He used to do that. And so we asked him and said, oh, you know when you used to be a windscreen wiper on Punt Road. He used to do that. And so we asked him and said, oh, you know, when you used to be a windscreen wiper? And he went, I've never done that in my life. So this might be just a regular segment where Dave O'Neill tries to stitch us up with people more famous than ourselves. No, no, he's quite right. There is a story which did take – I mean, it takes Dave. He enjoys this story.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Right. I'm telling this story. Does it involve pizza? I think because it's in the proximity of pizza. I think anything in the orbit of anything vaguely edible is a good story for Dave. So it may well be only a story for Dave, who of course has heard it,
Starting point is 00:06:54 and Bea is probably not listening to this. Yeah, not at all. I'm happy to tell it anyway. Because he did, as we were leaving, he was like, get him to tell it. I mean, I find it funny in that way to suggest that it's not. Just trying to kind of lower our expectations for it, I think. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:07 But still, I want to hear it. Let's hear it. I'll tell you the story. I was on a radio show called Vega. It was a radio station, I guess, sort of. It's now called Smooth FM with three O's or four, perhaps, for smooth. And Michael Bublé is kind of like the poster boy of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Well, I guess he's replaced Dave and I as possible DJs for it. Anyway, I was telling – it wasn't even a story. I was just talking and the microphone happened to be on. That was the level I was working at by the end of it all. And Dave found this amusing. I was talking – we were always told on radio to tell stories from our life. And I do nothing really in my life. So I said, what did you do on the weekend?
Starting point is 00:07:46 I said, oh, I just went out for dinner with the children and my wife. Oh, where did you go? Oh, I went to a little bistro. Oh, yeah, which one? Dave just wants the detail. I don't know why. What's color? He wants to know what suburb you're in.
Starting point is 00:08:01 He loves suburbs. He loves that, yeah. Where people went to school. It opens up a matrix for him. He's got a story for every suburb.'re in. He loves suburbs. He loves that, yeah. Where people went to school. Opens up a matrix for him. You know, he's got a story for every suburb. He's like a travelling salesman. He knows everyone's name. Every college, every school, every nightclub in particular
Starting point is 00:08:12 of any postcode in Melbourne. And you know why that is? It's because he's so jealous and he's so envious of other people and he stores all this information away and it's all rankings. You know, he goes, okay, well, you live there do you well i live there okay right yeah because he's worth about 10 mil right dave he's very very rich and lives in toorak he pretends he's unemployed and still living down in footscray somewhere anyway i was i would i would live in williamstown so you know he would go oh oh the west oh yeah we live in the west dave you haven't lived in the west for 10
Starting point is 00:08:43 years anyway so what was the name of the what was the name of the bistro that you're referring to He would go, oh, the West. Oh, yeah, we live in the West. Dave, you haven't lived in the West for 10 years. Anyway, so what was the name of the bistro that you're referring to? Oh, a restaurant, I think I called it. I was very fancy. Didn't even use the letter T at the end of it. Restaurant. I said a restaurant. And I said, oh, it was La Porchetta.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I don't know if you know it. And he starts laughing. I said, what's so funny? He said, well, that's a chain. I said, what? What, you thought it was a bistro. You thought it was just a one-off. I said, yeah, I just assumed it was a small Italian pizzeria, you know.
Starting point is 00:09:13 And he found that amusing. It's not even a story. He's just laughing at my ignorance. And he's done the great thing about it where the description of the story from him is actually kind of the punchline of the story as well. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Tell a joke about where your face rings a bell when you're in Quasimodo. Tell that one.
Starting point is 00:09:34 He's like a wife who doesn't understand anything about comedy. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Because he's told me that story of you not knowing La Poquita. It's one of the great Australian yarns. I think I saw Murray Fields telling it about 20 years ago he told it better than I Simon Munger who goes into a pizza bistro
Starting point is 00:09:47 no but he told me that you were upset that you saw another larbocat and he said oh your favourite pizza place got opened up
Starting point is 00:09:55 and he was like nah it's a big and he had to explain to you that it was Big Chain that was the version he told me oh I think that is right
Starting point is 00:10:01 I think that's what happened yeah yeah regardless of what version it is the consistency is that Dave O'Neill is the font of all knowledge in both of them, which I like. He knew. I didn't know I was perfectly happy in my ignorance
Starting point is 00:10:12 and I thought, isn't this a lovely place? Why spoil that for me? Why suddenly reduce it to the level of Pizza Hut? Quality product, I'm sure. Was Dave on Vega with you when you played Anarchy in the UK by the Sex Pistols at like 7 in the morning or whatever Yes, I believe he was around
Starting point is 00:10:28 and at the end of a show we would sit down and listen to various bits and we were all hoping perhaps that the programmer hadn't heard that but he had, yes we did it was a listener request I think we dared them to ring up and vote it off, but we did play Anarchy in the UK
Starting point is 00:10:44 at I believe, it might have been even 8 o'clock. And it was their live version that they did in Texas, which sounds really ropey. It's a really bad live version of that song. That would have been one of their last gigs. The last gig when they said, do you feel like you've been cheated?
Starting point is 00:11:01 That's right. It's that exact one. Oh, mate, Spix and Spex is finished. Yeah, okay. Still on, still on. Two points. Do you feel like you've been cheated? That's right. That exact one. Oh, mate, Spicks and Specks is finished, mate. All right? Still on, still on. Two points. Well, with Dave O'Neill saying that,
Starting point is 00:11:12 like a little bit of Spicks and Specks trivia for people out there is that in the writer's room, Josh and I are both – Josh writes jokes as well as hosts the show and we've got other people in the writer's room. But we had like a poster on the wall, our little rule of jokes and intros, which was fact plus gag equals gold. That was it, wasn't it? Yeah, and so that's for any questions. We have a little fact about the question, extra information,
Starting point is 00:11:37 and then a joke off the back of that. That's what we're going for. Yeah, that's what you want with a bit of music trivia. That's wonder. That's alchemy. Yes, Literally. You guys are like Walt and Jesse. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Cooking up comedy. So we did that with intros as well. But we changed that for Dave O'Neill. Whenever he's on the show, it turned into fat plus gag equals gold. Because every single intro for him was going to be, oh, he's done something about this in his life. Oh, and he also ate a lot of food. Here's Dave O'Neill.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Whatever happened, we'd wedge pizza in there or pastrami or something into something that he'd done in his life. Because he said he got someone on Twitter write to him and say, hey, do you realise that every single time you're introduced on Spics and Specs, they make a fat joke? Yeah. And he's like, oh, yeah, I am. But we didn't do it the last one. The last one because the panel that day, they were quite a big panel.
Starting point is 00:12:27 And so there was someone on the show bigger than Dave. So we thought, oh, we just can't make a fat joke about Dave. Yeah, yeah. We probably could have got away with a skinny joke about Dave that night, I think. Hey, now see, something I've always wanted to say to you, Sean, and that is before I got into comedy, I was published in the newspaper twice in my life. And one of them was because of you now this is when i was reminded of this the other day because i watched an episode uh of your show where uh you've got your sign your old sign you mccarliffe tonight sign oh yeah
Starting point is 00:12:55 back up as part of the matters hell that's right oh well we found that yeah where did you oh did you was it in your personal storage or no no no, no. We found it because it was, for your listeners who don't know, many of whom are probably too young to remember, a variety show that I had on Channel 9 called McAuliffe Tonight got axed after 13 episodes. And it had a lovely blue neon sign in the background. And it just lay in a storage case for 10 years. And, of course, they've sold the Bendigo Street Studios.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Oh, right. It was a Channel 9 storage case. Yeah years and of course they've sold the bendigo street studios oh right it was a channel 9 storage yeah and they were all being burned or they were throwing away everything because i think it's all being turned into it's turned into an old folks home or some sort of apartment complex or something yeah that's right and uh it was literally going to be landfill out in uh werribee or something and uh they said out next to dave o'neill's house do you want do you want do you want it do you want and so, yeah, sure, we'll have it. So we went and picked it up out of the skip, essentially, and very much like the knives and forks, your celebration. I think we had to blow a little bit of neon into the tube and lit it up.
Starting point is 00:14:00 And so inscrutably and without any explanation, it does appear at the back of Mad as Hell quite prominently. So if you were watching it, if you turned it on and watched it, you would just assume it was called McCulloch tonight. Yes, yeah. I love it though because it's like your house now because it's like instead of having the pool room with, you know, some picture of you and your school uniform or something like that,
Starting point is 00:14:19 it's just another memory on your pool room wall. Well, there's nothing else. I can't think of any other way to use it at all. And I don't want to put it in a packing case. It needs to be used. If things are made, they need to be used. That would be great if you put it at the front of your house, just like one of those old Peter's ice cream.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Oh, yeah. I think Christmas time would be nice. We fail to compete with the neighbours who have lovely tree decorations and are adorning the roof. You need to move into that street in like Ivanhoe where they have the avenue or the boulevard. Oh, that's impressive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:51 You just auction the McAuliffe sign off to one of those houses. But what pressure would there be if you moved in? You weren't aware, but by the end of the year you go, oh, what? But you do. You walk down that street and there's houses not even with a light globe on out the front of the house. Oh, really? And you go, why are you living in that street? Like, there must be pretty intense pressure from the neighbours going.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I would have thought so. I would have thought so. And, you know, how's your global footprint going? Well, yeah. Around Christmas time. Yeah. It's appalling. Now, I bring that up because...
Starting point is 00:15:20 Oh, sorry. Yes, you were published twice? Yes, I was published twice. And one of them was because of you. Now, when MacArthur Night was on air, that was pre-me being in comedy. And at the time, and I'm sure you're aware of this, at the time, the editor of the Herald Sun's TV guide was quite anti-you and your show. Yes, I remember, yes.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Robert Fidgen was the editor at the time. And, you know, you shouldn't speak ill of the dead, but he was a particularly fat dickhead. so I think we can make an exception. He wasn't a fan. Look, I'll give you that. Oh, thank you. He didn't like a lot of what I did, and particularly that year. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Now, I remember him just going on just a relentless sort of barrage against you. Yeah, there was a whole swag of things. Because I'd done a sitcom, which admittedly wasn't that good, but every week he would bag it. And this was in the lead-up to McAuliffe Tonight starting. Right, right. Yeah, and I remember him getting into the first couple of weeks and just – it was just every week.
Starting point is 00:16:15 It was this weird personal vendetta he had against you. It was bizarre to me. And I'd never done this before, but I was – and this is when I was actually living in Williamstown. I was living in Williamstown and I had this long train ride to go to my job in Hawthorne every day. And I read it every week, Robert Fidgen bagging you. And because I was quite a fan, I was like,
Starting point is 00:16:33 when's this guy going to let up? And then one week he just wrote this really bad one and I got really mad and I turned into like a much – a 60-year-old version of me. And I went, I'm going to write a letter. Wow. And I wrote a letter into Robert Fitch and the Herald Sun. But it was like an angry letter.
Starting point is 00:16:49 It wasn't one of those cool-off things. It was just me furiously scribbling on the tram this letter to the Herald Sun and then sent it off and then just completely forgot about it. And then like four or five weeks later, I'd completely forgotten about it and I'm sitting on the same train coming into work on the Wednesday morning and I read the Herald Sun and there it is they've published the entire letter that i've written as not as like one of those little segments or anything but it's their page three spread so it's just a picture of you and then my entire letter for the whole page right and it was just
Starting point is 00:17:20 after mccarth tonight had got axed and so he went, here's a letter from someone that does like McAuliffe and just printed the whole thing. And it's pretty venomous, the letter, in my like for McAuliffe Tonight and my dislike for all the examples of people that he said were better than you in your show. And so I go pretty hard and at the end he even says at the end, we had to cut quite a bit of this because 80% of this letter was very libelous and there was a lot of bad words involved
Starting point is 00:17:48 towards these other personalities, towards me, towards my weight. I'd love it if they'd done... Wow, Carl, I thank you for the many years ago doing this, defending me many years ago. I'd love it if they'd done that thing that they sometimes do where they've got the printout, like the typing of the letter,
Starting point is 00:18:04 but then they've also scanned the handwritten thing in, just so you can see the kind of maniacal handwriting that's gone into it, like, get a load of this serial killer who wrote this. Yeah, so he does all that right, and then his little response, his little coda at the end of it was going, well, there we go, I've let the writer reply in, but you know what, at the end of the day, he sure got the axe, so guess who wins? I guess it's me. The end.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah, it's interesting that he held off until then. Well, I'll tell you. Now, one of the reasons, I mean, I can't pretend to understand the mind of a man who is not me, but Robert Fidgen, I met once. It was just before I hosted the Logies back in 2001, so many years ago. And he met me, he asked to have lunch with me. So we went out and had lunch and we were talking generally.
Starting point is 00:18:53 And this was at the time when he had a bit of a vendetta against Mick Molloy who had just done a show. The Mick Molloy show on Channel 9 as well. Yeah, it must have been that one. And he pretty much had a similar attitude to Mick. He didn't like Mick. He was a former employee, Robert Fidgen, of of channel nine and i think his wife might have worked there and he was very very much the old guard very much a defender of the traditions there at channel nine so the
Starting point is 00:19:13 thought of mick or myself doing a tonight show was you know was was quite contrary to what he believed the direction of the network should be but anyway he didn't know me he knew micky didn't like mick uh and i wasn't aware of who robert fidgen was and i remember he said what he said the direction of the network should be. But anyway, he didn't know me. He knew Mick. He didn't like Mick. And I wasn't aware of who Robert Fidgen was. And I remember he said to me, what do you think of Mick Moran? I said, oh, he's funny. He's a nice guy. I vaguely know him.
Starting point is 00:19:35 What do you think of his show? He said rather provocatively. And I said, and I hadn't seen a lot of the show. It wasn't my show to defend. I felt I was being led down a track. And so I played a straight back to it and said, I thought it was a very funny show. It's this and that. Host of Logies.
Starting point is 00:19:53 I'm not going to stir any trouble. Mix of friend. Anyway, so in the way of just having conversation with him, I said, yeah, people react interestingly to Meek Mill. There's some critic. I can't think of his name. And I legitimately didn't know it was Fidgen that I was trying to remember I thought he wrote for the age I thought it was the other
Starting point is 00:20:12 guy that wrote for the age his name I forget and I said yeah he's really obsessed with him I can't think of who he is but he goes on and on about him every week he's bagging him he's got some personal problem with him and he really obviously has nothing to write about and i suppose it must be really hard trying to grout together a couple of lines in between the ads in these pages so effectively i had inadvertently paid him out
Starting point is 00:20:34 he didn't he didn't say oh it's me yeah yeah but he kept his powder dry and then waited until the next couple of productions that i did but i think think that may well have fuelled his animosity towards me. Yeah, perhaps. Mick had Lee Patch on his show, who was one of the writers for The Herald Sun. That's right. He was actually doing reviews and stuff. So to get bagged out by The Herald Sun
Starting point is 00:20:54 when you've employed one of their writers to actually work on your show. Yeah, sure. Yeah, it must have been pretty bad. Yeah, yeah. Well, this letter that went into The Herald Sun that I wrote, so it went in and I was shocked. I'm sitting on the train going i've written a whole page of his tv guide like the main page is the page three have you still got it have you got it no i don't i don't but um yeah i should have but here's the thing here's the thing at the end of that i went oh
Starting point is 00:21:16 this is this is nice little ego sort of thing that i've written this whole thing but then i realized because it was like a month before for whatever reason i've gone mad and written this crazy letter to the Herald Sun. And then at the end, I've had this moment of, I don't know, clarity or sanity or something where I've gone, I'm not leaving my real name on this. And then I've put in, I've signed it off as a guy that I used to,
Starting point is 00:21:37 as one of the town crazies from the small town of Meribah where I grew up. And I signed it off as a guy called Mark Moak and this is the name of a guy, that wasn't even his name, it was just the name of a crazy guy called Mark who used to walk up and down the street asking for a smoke or a moak as it were and he'd walk up and go moak, moak, moak and we used to
Starting point is 00:21:56 make him do star jumps for cigarettes down the high street of Maribor so I signed off as Mark Moak so the whole thing went in there and then it went signed off Mark Moak and so then all these people in there and then it went, signed off Mark Moak. And so then all these people in Maribor thought he'd written the letter somehow. But then there was quite a significant number of people that still thought I'd written the letter. And I was like, why would you think I'd write the letter?
Starting point is 00:22:20 And they went, it's just something you do, write this crazy letter and then sign it off to a homeless man in Maribor. I like how you're getting angry about that even though they're right. Getting all defensive about it. So that's one. The second published moment I had in, you know, just as a respected publication as Herald Sun, is I also had a complaint letter written to Mad Magazine that I got in. So if you want to go back, if you're a collector, if you want to go back into 1990, the...
Starting point is 00:22:44 Mark Moak? Is... Mark Moak? Is it Mark Moak? The lighter side of Star Jumps? He had some complaints. No, it's actually me. Sunshine Johnson. No, this is my one moment in the sun. Well, not really, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:57 So it's me in there in the 1990 edition with a parody Batman. I mean, who knows what they called him in that movie? But I get in there. I actually remember I was criticising Mad Magazine it was just when I'd gotten old enough to go oh this magazine isn't that good after all
Starting point is 00:23:08 and I wrote in and listed all the bad things about Mad Magazine and I think that was like the 12th letter I'd ever written to Mad Magazine and they published the one
Starting point is 00:23:15 where I just shit can it for like a paragraph you're an old school blogger so is this the Australian Mad Magazine well fair enough yes
Starting point is 00:23:22 fair enough because I used to read Mad Magazine but before there was an Australian version. And so I always thought it was pretty good. Yeah. But then there was another magazine that came out called Cracked. Yes. Which was shit.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Yes. Still out there. Cracked's still out there, isn't it? Was Cracked an Australian one or was it an American? No, no, no. It was American. It's ironically, it's because it was always the inferior version. Like you'd go on holidays and if there was a crack,
Starting point is 00:23:47 they'd be like, oh, if you have to, I guess. Like I've read Mad. Like this crack that was crazy, there was a couple of other really poor versions of Mad magazine. But weirdly enough, Mad is sort of off the scene sort of thing now, whereas Cracked is quite strong online, isn't it? Cracked has a, yeah, Cracked's a website, like a Funny or Die-style website. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:07 They have lots of videos and stuff. It's weird that it's been sort of the winner after all that. I remember Charlie Pickering came up to me, and this is what we're doing, talking about your generation. He says, have a look at this, have a look at this. And it was a copy of the Australian Mad Magazine, which had done a parody of the project. So he'd been rendered in the Mad Magazine style.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Oh, yeah, big chin. which he was very proud of. And I don't know, again, I don't know what the project's punny title was. The Foe-ject, maybe? The Reject? The Reject. The Blech-ject, maybe? Because when I was
Starting point is 00:24:40 growing up there was Australian Mad but it was kind of a half content that they just drafted from the American one. And even being young and not quite getting exactly what was going on, boy, you could tell there was a large disparity. Just suddenly the art is just awful. I seem to remember the ink being a little faded too. The toner wasn't quite right. And it was printed on butcher's paper and cardboard, yeah. I seem to remember the ink being a little faded too. Yeah. The toner wasn't quite right.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Yeah, and it was printed on like butcher's paper and like weird cardboard and stuff. It was a supplement. Because I was a genuine fanatical follower of Mad Magazine and I've still got the collection at my mum and dad's house of like 400 Mad Magazines. They're in plastic bags and everything. However, I don't think I'll ever read any of them again
Starting point is 00:25:23 because I got to a stage in my fanaticism about collecting Mad Magazine comic books and stuff where I bought myself, as a 12-year-old, I bought myself a filing cabinet to keep them in. So instead of saving money to get anything cool, it was like I went down to an office supplies and lay-bought it and put in my 10 bucks of pocket money every week to file.
Starting point is 00:25:42 You invested in infrastructure. That's impressive. In admin. I was a big fan of admin, prepubescent admin fans. Well, I hated the half and half version of the Mad Magazine. I do remember that. It's probably when I stopped buying it because I knew that you were getting less of the American version
Starting point is 00:26:00 and more of the Australian version. There must have been some pages taken out. Yes. And they wouldn't be picky about what they'd recycle. Like, you'd be reading a parody of, like, whatever, MASH from 10 years ago, and then all of a sudden there'd be a bad drawing of John Howard with his bum hanging out or whatever. And you'd go, this is, is this the same?
Starting point is 00:26:18 These are, like, next to each other. That would be a super special. Yeah. Look, that's what they are. They're compilations. Yeah. Did you collect anything when you were a kid? What was your big... Well, comic would be a super special. That's what they are. They're compilations. Yeah. Did you collect anything when you were a kid? What was your big...
Starting point is 00:26:27 Well, comic books were a big thing. I mean, I used to get the... And they were only 25 cents, 15 cents perhaps. I just want to say at the end of that story, I was going to say that filing cabinet, I can no longer look in any of that stuff anymore because I went swimming with the key in my pocket and it's at the bottom of Deep Creek in Carisbrook.
Starting point is 00:26:42 So there's just a filing cabinet full of 400 Mad magazines, a bunch of Spider-Man comics, some Doctor Who stuff in there, and that is just a time capsule without being buried. It's just sat in my old room for like 20 years now. I reckon those keys are pretty... I reckon you could probably pretty much go into any second-hand goods shop and buy a key for two cents and it will probably open it. I also reckon the lock might not be the strongest either.
Starting point is 00:27:06 I don't reckon the structure of the safe. Like it's something that was bought with a 10-year-old's pocket money. I reckon you could get in there pretty easy. But you did the right thing because I think a lot of people now, they say, oh, yeah, I've got comics out in the garage. They must be worth a fortune. Of course, they're not. They're all yellow and they're half eaten by mice and everything.
Starting point is 00:27:23 But yours will be in pristine condition. I don't think that matters as much as back then because I got into collecting stuff like that and things were rare because there wasn't that many printed of them, whereas I think I got into comic books and stuff like that at a period where they started printing a million of them. So I don't think at any stage Madden magazines will ever be collectible again,
Starting point is 00:27:42 especially not the Australian ones, obviously. I don't think anyone would want them. No. There has to be a demand for them. Yes. But I used to buy the Jerry Lewis comic books, and they were 15, 20, 25 cents. I think that's as high as they got.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Maybe 50 cents. And they were... They would have been much funnier than any comic books about girls. Well, they would have been much funnier than any Jerry Lewis film during the 1970s. So these came out in the 70s and 80s. I never could quite work out why a man's film career had finished and they were still making comic books about it.
Starting point is 00:28:08 He was still having adventures. So those were the ones. Phantoms. I always had Phantoms for some reason, although I never really liked them. But I think people used to think, oh, yeah, I'll buy Sean. It's a comic.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Maybe it was cheap. I can't remember. I think it was a thing where your mum and dad would go, yeah, comic books are Phantom. That's what they are. Because I think my dad would buy me phantom comics and I'd be like, these aren't funny at all.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Why am I reading a comic book where things are serious? He lives in a cave. He's got a dog. He's got a girlfriend. Yeah. I don't know how much to offer. Diane, I think her name was.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Oh, right. I don't think he had much to offer, really. He had a throne with a skull on it that he'd live in a cave. Was there always a Diane as well? Was it the Diane that walks that just kept going through eternity? Maybe he was probably going out with his own daughter at some point.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I don't know how that worked. Now you say it, I don't know how that worked. A Diane waiting for eternity, who'd have thought? That thing of there being a Jerry Lewis comic book, that's kind of a thing that's gone out, hasn't it? I mean, you'd have the Harlem Globetrotters would turn up on Scooby-Doo and stuff like that. These animated features of real people.
Starting point is 00:29:10 You couldn't have a Jonah Hill comic book every month these days, would you? The only comic I've ever bought is the Martin Malloy comic book. Oh yeah, I remember that. I don't know how many editions. I only bought one and it wasn't... And they did a Bajas comic as well. You did buy a filing cabinet for it though, yeah?
Starting point is 00:29:25 I bought the filing cabinet first and just wanted, yeah? Yeah, right, right. I bought the filing cabinet first and just wanted something to feel it. That's right. Sean, did you... So have you ever appeared in Mad Magazine? Have you ever got... Because I think that's the height of fame. I did get a...
Starting point is 00:29:35 Somebody was submitting something to Mad Magazine Australia and asked whether I would write something and they would do the comic part of it. Yeah, so I did it just for the fun of it. It was a Dear Dorothy sort of thing, you know, where you write in and they suggest a solution to it. So I wrote the copy, essentially, and this guy did the art
Starting point is 00:29:56 and he managed to sell it. Right. And it did appear. So there is a cartoon of me in Australian Man magazine. It's not quite in the same Charlie Pickering style. Right, right. So it's not Sean McAuliffe's The Lighter Side Of. La Pochetta.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah, La Pochetta. It's called – it has my name in it and it's sort of my advice and everything. But, yeah, it's an outside artist. So it doesn't look like it's in the man style. It's very nice and very well done and everything. That would be weird if you were in there being lampooned when what you do is already comedy. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:29 If they were going, ah, look at this. Do they do that? I can't remember what they do. Oh, but they do, yeah, with comedy movies they sort of do, don't they? Yeah, that was always weird. They would parody a comedy movie and you're like, the jokes, you're only just making the same jokes again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Like Borat, like B-O-R-E-A-T. You know, there's only so much you can parody a character that's already a parody. Yeah, yeah. It was a weird choice. Have I talked on the show about when I went to the Mad Magazine offices? Have I told that story on here before? Wow, on Madison Avenue?
Starting point is 00:30:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, you wouldn't have gone to Madison Avenue because I went to New York, it would have been before that, and I turned up to Madison Avenue on the old address and just stood there And there was It wasn't there And someone just came by
Starting point is 00:31:08 With a delivery And just laughed at me And went Hey buddy Mad Magazine hasn't been here For ten years And I'm like Oh okay
Starting point is 00:31:14 And that was it They're friendly over there Aren't they Yeah This was when I was like 12 We went on a family holiday And the Simpsons episode Where Bart does that
Starting point is 00:31:24 Had been on Like not long before we went. And it was my dad's idea. He's like, let's just look it up in the phone book and just go. And I was like, okay. So we go and we, you know, we go up to this top floor and it's, you know, big kind of fiberglass Alfred E. Newman thing kind of at the reception and the receptionist and we just walk in and she's like, hi.
Starting point is 00:31:46 And my dad goes, yeah, we're, you know, we're here for the – have a tour, you know, do whatever the tour is, whatever we can just go around and see. I mean, I'm sure this happens all the time. And she goes, this has never happened before. She goes, you can just go into our writer's room if you want. And we're like, great. And so we just get led into a room not dissimilar to this and she goes hi guys these two this is some kid and his dad from australia um
Starting point is 00:32:12 i guess they just wanted to see what's going on and they're like they're like on a deadline so they're just angry that you know that we're taking up their time and then they took me into this the deadline is like don mart Martin sitting there going, oh, now what's this muffin going to make a sound effect of when I'm sitting on it? What's that going to sound like? Or the guy who does the fold-ins going, I can't make this work.
Starting point is 00:32:36 It keeps folding into something that doesn't make any sense. I've got to reverse engineer this thing. The fold-in this week is going to be us kicking this snotty little kid out of the office. Did they draw you? No, they took us into a room where it was like a small stationary room where it was just piled full of Mad magazines and said, just take as many as you want.
Starting point is 00:32:57 And then they were doing an edition that was some kind of anniversary or something that was kind of the cover was like lots of little images of past covers. Yeah, yeah, right. A little mosaic sort of. Yeah, yeah. And they'd just done, they'd gotten the old covers out to take photos of. So they gave us the original photos that they were using to lay down to then take the big photo of the cover.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Does that make any sense? Yeah, yeah. Anyway, they gave us these little – so walked out with – I think we got like a – there was like a sketch from – I can't even remember who lying around. But again, a thing where that would be – some of that stuff would probably be worth a fair bit now. You know what?
Starting point is 00:33:36 There's a great story about your dad. Isn't it? Your dad's a pretty cool dad to do that. Yeah. That's a great thing. Just getting to New York and, yeah, just looking him up in the phone book and going, man, well, that can only be one thing. Let's just go there now.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And it was like the first day we were there and mum's like, no Central Park, no. So what am I? I'm just sitting here in the hotel room by myself, am I? A good one. Great family holiday we're having here. And it costs nothing, actually. That's a great thing.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Maybe you hopped on the subway, but it costs nothing to get there. And I know for a fact that they now do tours around there. Right. So I think you were the guy who instigated that. They call it the Dassolo Tour. Oh, right. The Dassolo Wing. That's what that room is now called.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Yeah, we've been into the magazine pile room yet. But the weird thing about it was because that Simpsons episode had been out for long enough, and that's kind of such a big scene of that, is like Bart rocking up there, that it was just, my dad was just fascinated by the fact that they were so taken aback by the fact that we turned up. It's like this must have been happening a lot like, you know, after that episode.
Starting point is 00:34:34 And it honestly seemed like we were the first people to ever have any interest in. I'm sure I did the same thing and I would have done that before you. So what year was that do you think? I was 12 so it would have been like two years ago oh jesus um no 16 years ago so what's that 90 is that 98 90 i think around 97 right okay well i definitely oh okay that would have been going to the cracked building
Starting point is 00:34:59 i think that was that was they took you into the writer's room they say look could you just do pages 7 to 23 yeah yeah no I'm 9 years old oh okay
Starting point is 00:35:12 can you do more then then we went to London and we went to the Viz offices no not at all what was Viz Viz was kind of like the British
Starting point is 00:35:19 but dirty wasn't it much pruder it was like an adult's one that bawdy dirty dick sort of humour I guess yeah my dad once took us
Starting point is 00:35:25 to the Etamoga Pub so that's kind of similar. Yeah. Not at all. We tried to stop off at the Etamoga Pub when we went to Canberra to do a gig.
Starting point is 00:35:32 I think we successfully stopped off there but it was just closed down. Closed down, yeah. That's also a franchise now because we were in Queensland and they got an Etamoga Pub. Really?
Starting point is 00:35:40 Yeah, they branched out. That's weird for a reference to something in page 35 of Australasian Post magazine that's been dead for 20 years, surely. Yeah, it would have been about 20 years ago. Is there a mere male theme park somewhere in New South Wales? There's a home blokes. What would your equivalent of that been when you were younger, Sean?
Starting point is 00:36:01 Where was somewhere, did you make any pre-references to anything that you loved? I don't remember when anywhere. What was your Wally's World? Because you were Ad, Sean. Where was somewhere, did you make any pre-requirements to anything that you loved? I never went anywhere. What was your Wally's World? Because you were Adelaide. Adelaide, that was it. I didn't leave Adelaide until I came here when I was 31. Really? I never left.
Starting point is 00:36:17 No, Kangaroo Island, that was about it. It's any place I've been to. Oh, that classic comic strip? Yeah, I know. No, I mean, there used to be a thing. Was that the theme park from The Kangaroo from Snake Tales? Is that where that was from? I would never go there.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Souls. Souls. Couldn't draw arms. That's why I did a snake. Oh, God. I did. We had a thing called Possum's Pages, which is the thing in what passed for the Sunday paper,
Starting point is 00:36:42 which is the Sunday Mail, which was Rupert Murdoch's first newspaper that he ran himself. And I'm sure he didn't look at the material I sent in, but it would encourage children to send in jokes or poems or drawings. And I remember drawing a picture of Mickey Mouse, and it was so bad that the Disney police didn't try and slap a copyright writ on me. But it got in.
Starting point is 00:37:03 It got in. And you got these points. You'd get a bronze certificate, a silver certificate, or a gold certificate, or a star or something like that. The newspaper's ranking the kids that write into the newspaper. Oh, yeah. Wow. You'd be sent this as a thank you.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Yeah. And I can't remember whether it was ranked in the newspaper, but you'd certainly be published. And then if you built up enough of these things, I think you'd become a possum's pal or something like that. You become a member of this organisation. So I was an active member of this children's – it was a bit like the neo-Nazis, I suppose.
Starting point is 00:37:38 That sounds like an arcade where, you know, those games that you play where the tickets come out and then you can cash them in for prizes. That's bizarre. Well, whatever it was, my first job then as a nine-year-old was writing material and drawing cartoons for Rupert Murdoch. Awesome. When you mentioned ranking, in Tassie there was a TV show
Starting point is 00:37:55 called The Saturday Morning Fun Show and it was hosted by a guy. What was it about? It was hosted by Howie the Yowie. Someone's got to close the door. So Howie the Yowie. If you were a got to close the door. So Howie the Yowie. And if you're a kid, you send in your photo for your birthday and they would have a little birthday segment and your photo would go up.
Starting point is 00:38:12 And there was a girl at my school who was quite Simeon looking. That's a nice way of saying that. Anyway, had her photo because they would do captions underneath and the caption was gorillas in the midst. This is like an eight-year-old girl sending her thing. And they've gone, oh, you look like a monkey. There you go. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:38:29 So, yeah, the Monday at school was amazing. It was just that great thing of going. Is there a West Coast bridge in Tasmania? Well, it was the Hobart Bridge. What you're saying about you drew Mickey Mouse and that was your first published appearance, that reminds me of something that's happened similar, not similar, but reminds me of something.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Very recently, now I sometimes do some writing for other stand-up comedians, and I had a moment a couple of weeks ago that I didn't know quite what to think of where I was invited to this stand-up comedian's house, and it's quite a well-known stand-up comedian, which I won't name. Turn the microphone.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I want to know who it is. Okay, you say who it is. You're going to say it and I'll edit it out. Yeah, say it and I'll edit this out. No, but will you edit it out? I will edit it out. It sounds like it's already being edited out at the moment. Oh, no, it's done.
Starting point is 00:39:20 It is. You've got to edit this out. I'm going to edit it out. It is. Okay, okay. All righty've got to edit this out. I'm going to edit it out. It is. So. Okay. Okay. Alrighty.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Right. This, man. Now, it's also on you to remind me as well. Oh, no. Okay. Right. So, I was invited into his or her house. Went in there.
Starting point is 00:39:39 It was, you know, sort of a very older sort of a house with a lot of sort of, you know, classic old memorabilia, you know, sort of look like gold rush era sort of a very older sort of a house with a lot of sort of classic old memorabilia, sort of look like gold rush era sort of things all around. Let me just cut you off and say you're very concerned about listeners being able to work out who it is. Don't give too much signposting of the age and the sort of trinkets that are in the house. Don't leave too many clues. Okay, sure. It's someone who's established.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Yes, yes, yes. And they're also of a certain age where they've acquired a certain level of comfort in their life. Oh, now this is just a giveaway now. Yeah, someone who's actually made a living out of being a comedian. Dave O'Neill. So I went in there. He or she was a bit nervous about the whole experience. So I sat down.
Starting point is 00:40:21 They said, would you like a drink? I said, okay. so I sat down they said would you like a drink I said okay they went to the kitchen came back with a matching set
Starting point is 00:40:29 of cups that they'd obviously gotten from McDonald's at some stage over the years so we both got plastic cups he got the Mickey Mouse cup
Starting point is 00:40:37 and I got the Minnie Mouse cup and I just sort of thought this is an odd enough moment but for me to get the Minnie and he to get the Mickey is this some sort of power play already? Do you think?
Starting point is 00:40:48 Is that a conscious is that from the what is it? That's from the Art of War The Art of War that's what I was looking for yes
Starting point is 00:40:55 the classic Art of War Oh yeah that's page three That's very interesting so you felt you felt you felt put in my place subordinated yes you felt... Put in my place.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Yes, you felt very much the low man on the totem pole. Yes, yes. Which is interesting. What if he bought a Pluto mug? What about if he bought... What if it was a Goofy? What if he'd have given me a cracked magazine cup? Now I would have been in a place.
Starting point is 00:41:19 If he bought Mickey Mouse and Goofy, would you have been more comfortable with that? Because they were friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were friends. Or Donald, they were friends. Yes. That would have been okay.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Or a Dewey and a Huey. Yeah. Or snake from Snake Tales and the flower, the talking flower from Snake Tales. The legendary character. You'd be more comfortable with being given a dog than a female. This is interesting, Carl. This is interesting. These are all words put in my mouth.
Starting point is 00:41:46 It's a male dog and a female. This is interesting, Carl. This is interesting. These are all words put in my mouth. It's a male dog and a female mouse. I never understood the relationship. I don't know what they would have had in common, Mickey and Goofy. Yeah. Mouse and a dog. Was Pluto there? Was Goofy there? Pluto was a dog.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I'm down here. Now we're opening up a whole new world here. This is always, even at a young age, I remember being very bothered by this. Yeah, Goofy, a dog, clearly wearing clothes and a hat. He's goober nuts and turns into super goof, I think, at some point. He had an alter ego. So there it is, a dual life. He also has a pet dog who wears no clothes and is clearly a dog.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Was Goofy Mickey's pet? No, Goofy's his mate. Pluto's Mickey's pet. Right. And they're both dogs. They're both dogs. So if the dog walks in the room and is wearing clothes, he knows it's Goofy's his mate. Pluto is Mickey's pet. Right. And they're both dogs. They're both dogs. Right. So if the dog walks in the room and is wearing clothes,
Starting point is 00:42:29 he knows it's Goofy. If the dog walks in the room naked, he knows it's Pluto. They should have had episodes where Goofy kind of pranks Mickey and comes in in the nude and pretends to be Pluto just to kind of hear what he says about him when he's not around. Yeah. I mean, who's he going to turn to for advisor duck? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Can't understand what the hell he's saying. Does that mean if a mouse with no clothes on walks into Mickey Mouse's house, that's vermin? Yeah. Mickey can go, where are the exterminators? No, I don't know if it works that way. I think the only confusion, because you have the Beagle Boys
Starting point is 00:42:59 who are three dogs who rob banks and they're quite, you know, they're sort of but they're guys, but they're dogs. So dogs seem to be the predominant species in Mickey's world. I know of no other mouse other than Mickey and Minnie. I don't think they had children or nephews, did they? No, no. Certainly Mickey, Donald had nephews and they were ducks.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Yeah. And Daisy, of course. So you've got a family of ducks, a small unit, a nuclear family of ducks, a nuclear family. Actually, they're boyfriend and girlfriend, Mickey and Minnie. They're courting, constantly courting. Yes, yes. When is he going to pop the question?
Starting point is 00:43:33 Never, as it turns out. Never. So you were okay this night when you were over at his or her house. Yes, yes. Anyway, so I think it's A World of Dogs, Planet of the Dogs by Pierre Boulet. Incidentally, a side issue here, Pierre of Dogs, Planet of the Dogs, by Pierre Boulet. Incidentally, a side issue here. Pierre Boulet wrote Planet of the Apes. He also wrote Bridge Over the River Kwai.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Isn't that interesting? Yeah, right. Those two books that have no connection with each other at all. Well, the guy who wrote Bond also wrote Chitty Chitty Bang Bang as well. Yeah, quite right. What kind of crazy world are we living in? I've always had a problem with it. The guy that wrote, Michael Crichton that wrote Jurassic Park also wrote Westworld,
Starting point is 00:44:07 which is the same movie except with dinosaurs instead of Joel Brenner. How did he get away with it? How did he get away with it? Well, he had until now. It's exactly the same movie except with a bald robot instead of 1,700 feet dinosaurs. Yeah, right, you know. Yeah. Mind you, Bolt is exactly the same as Toy Story.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Bolt? Yeah, Bolt's about a dog, a movie dog. He thinks he's a superhero. Oh. And doesn't the main space, what's his name, in Toy Story? Buzz. Buzz Lightyear thinks he's a real yeah
Starting point is 00:44:45 exactly the same story. But is that written by the same person? No. No. They're made by the same people aren't they? And also the other thing is you know
Starting point is 00:44:53 Herbie Fully Loaded is exactly the same as Racing Stripes but a zebra. Exactly the same film. What's Racing Stripes? I can't believe you've seen Racing Stripes. Racing Stripes is a film about well you know
Starting point is 00:45:04 it's a horse racing film and instead of a horse they've seen Racing Stripes. Racing Stripes is a film about well, you know, it's a horse racing film and instead of a horse they have a zebra. Imagine. Imagine that. Winning the race on a zebra. Who stars? Who's that a vehicle for? I don't know. I know that Lindsay Lohan starred in Herbie Fully Loaded.
Starting point is 00:45:19 The reboot of the Herbie franchise. Racing Stripes from memory, it's one of those animated films where it's all just kind of... You thought you were impressed with the level of animation Herbie franchise. Raising Stripes from Memory, it's one of those animated films where it's all just kind of... Oh, but it's... You thought you were impressed with the level of animation in this film. It's because it was real. That's what's changed in the three years since you were on this show, the level of animation.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Now they'd animate it. Then they couldn't afford it. On the last time you were on, Sean, in the process of conversation, we got onto a bit where you did an impression of, was it Con the Fruiterer as Milo Kerrigan or whichever way around it was. This should have remained lost. Well, because that's what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:45:59 I can't think how we could have possibly gotten to that. Well, because what I was going to say was since you did that, we then have had a couple of people that we know working on other things who are interviewing you who said that they just kind of bought it up and just got you to do it on their show. So just given that this seems to be a bit of a breeding ground for other people's kind of interview questions and stuff, if there's anything that you'd particularly like to do, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:23 for your next press engagements for the next two years, now's the time to put it out there. Let me close the circle on this, all right? Let me do... I think what Desla's trying to say is do it. Do the voice. No, I'm not asking that at all. No, well, if I did Milo doing Con the Fruiterer,
Starting point is 00:46:40 maybe I should do Con the Fruiterer doing Milo. Oh, okay. Please. Please. I don't know if it works. Shouldn't it be exactly the same? It'd be like having a half and half. No, no, it'd be because Do Milo doing Alfred E. Newman.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Milo doing, hang on, Milo doing Con would have been That would have been that. So Con the Frutera doing Milo would be Oh, I don't know how to do it. Well, I'm just trying to think. What would it be?
Starting point is 00:47:08 Milo's just sort of – Yeah. It doesn't work. I can't do it. Well, Mark's just in the next room, isn't he? Let's get him in. He can – Yeah, well, he's your next interview.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Yeah, sure. I have been – my girlfriend has been away for the last three weeks, so I've been kind of at home by myself. And there's a little part of me, I don't know if you guys have had this before, but my girlfriend is totally, she never goes, oh, where are you going, don't go to that thing or whatever. In no way is she demanding about my time or what I do or whatever. But just the simple fact of someone going away and being on your own,
Starting point is 00:47:42 there was a part of me that was like, yeah, it's party time. Like it's just exciting to sort of be alone for a bit. So I thought that she'd been away for like half a week and it was a Saturday night and I thought, yeah, let's, you know, calling up some friends and seeing what was going on. And all of my friends were at a party of a girl that we all sort of know who hates me for reasons that are still completely unclear to me.
Starting point is 00:48:07 So all of my friends were doing that. So it went from me being excited to... Is it because you bagged her when you went to dinner and bagged her TV reviewing? So I was excited to kind of... It went from me being amped up to sort of, you know, just let loose on the town to me calling up mum and going, yeah, what are you and dad doing tonight? you know, just let loose on the town to me calling up mum and going,
Starting point is 00:48:26 yeah, what are you and dad doing tonight? Mum goes, oh, we're going to go see the Grand Budapest Hotel movie tonight. And I go, oh, yeah, what session and what cinema? I'll come along. So I buy a ticket to go along to the movies with my parents. And then I go, what are we doing before? Are we going out for dinner? And mum's like, oh, yeah, we're going here. You can come along if you like.
Starting point is 00:48:46 So I tag along on this dinner with mum and dad to this pub near where they live. You're cock blocking your mum. And it was nice. It was very nice. And the waitress comes over and takes our order and stuff and going through all that. And then she gets to the end of taking our order and she turns to me and she goes, by the way, I through all that. And then she gets to the end of Taking Our Order and she turns to me and she goes, by the way, I love the podcast. And Dad goes, turns to her and goes, how have you heard the podcast?
Starting point is 00:49:11 A simple waitress. How have you got access to the internet? She just goes, because it's on the internet. And so then she left and it was just this awful thing where because I hadn't seen my parents for a little bit, so I'm just there asking like how Comedy Festival went. I'm just kind of telling them about, you know, things that are coming up and how shows went and stuff. And the waitress just keeps walking past the table. And I just got very insecure about her just going, oh, God, listen to him just going on and on and on about his career.
Starting point is 00:49:41 It was, yeah, it went from being really cool to being a little. Hang on, you're having dinner with your parents. Yeah. It was never cool. Sure, yeah. I just realised, yeah. It went nowhere is what you should have been saying there. But your dad is pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:49:55 I can understand why you want to hang out with him. Yeah, sure, yeah. I thought we might end up going to. The Australian offices of Mad Magazine. Who knows what publication we're going to get crashed. Someone's in here working on an illustration of Julia Gillard. This will be good. Can we turn up at the offices of Take Five?
Starting point is 00:50:11 They've got heaps of prizes in there we could grab maybe. So how do you interpret your father's response to The Waitress? Was it a comment about how on earth did anyone listen to my son's podcast? That's it. I think that's what it is, yeah. He was shocked that someone he doesn't know is listening to this. Yeah, he's like,
Starting point is 00:50:26 well, he does not understand podcasts. Well, but he's been to live shows that we've done where the room's full. So like... But I get that quite a bit when anyone I ever know has listened to the podcast, even though we've got thousands and thousands
Starting point is 00:50:36 of people that listen. But people that you know tend to come up and go, hey, that was really funny. Your podcast is really funny. But then again, that's me. I doubt anyone else finds it funny. And you go, well, that was nice the first half,
Starting point is 00:50:46 you could have cut it off there. I think it's such a personal experience though. I think listening to a podcast is very different from listening to the radio, which people know and accept as going out to other people. They hear it in cars, for example. We don't hear a podcast in a car. And it's a far more personal and intimate experience, a bit like reading a novel or listening to something that you put together.
Starting point is 00:51:06 You can't accidentally hear it. No, you've got to. Yes, that's right. You've got to get out of your way. It's an appointment listening experience. Yes, yes. It's nice this show to be compared to a novel. It's never happened before.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Not literature. Just, you know, maybe a Barbara Cartland novel. One of those ones you buy at the airport. What's the one that writes about jockeys all the time? What's his name? One of the latter Ben Elton novels maybe. Something quite disposable. I want to know this author who just writes about jockeys.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Yeah, I'm trying to think of his name now. Dr Turf? Dick Francis I believe his name is. He writes about... He's dead now of course. And his son carries on his legacy. I think his son might write them a bit. Much in the way that there are many authors. Much in the way the carries on his legacy. I think his son might write them a bit. Oh, really? Much in the way that there are many authors. Much in the way the Phantom passed his legacy on.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Yes. Two guys from Noriutpa in South Australia for about five or six years did the Phantom comics. Right. A small country town in South Australia. I do know who that is. It's Glenn Lumsden and David DeVries. That's right.
Starting point is 00:52:05 How do you know those guys? Because I was quite, like I said, hey, look, I had a filing cabinet full of comic books. Oh, yeah, sorry. You don't buy a filing cabinet without knowing a thing or two. Yeah, and it was in a cave and you wore a mask and they had a throne of skulls. Yeah, that's great.
Starting point is 00:52:19 I met these guys at a comic book convention where we all sat around a table and had dinner. You were publicising your appearance in Mad Magazine. I was actually hired as the entertainment for the night, which was bad on their part for booking me. It was called Comic Con or something like that. And they had a very famous author who writes a lot of science fiction fantasy. Neil Gaiman turned up and he was the keynote speaker. And I basically was introducing him along with a friend of mine
Starting point is 00:52:47 and we did some appalling comedy, really appalling comedy. But I sat with these guys and met them and found their story fascinating that they would have taken over the mantle of writing the fantasy. Even though really secretly I didn't like the fandom comics, I was still impressed. It's a bit like meeting Daryl Summers. You wouldn't bother looking at him on television, but in
Starting point is 00:53:09 reflection, there's Daryl Summers over there. That's the thing. I grew up loving Daryl Summers on TV, and then I remember my nan just going, I hate Daryl Summers. And I was like, I've never heard you say the word hate, ever. I've never seen you express a negative emotion. And I always hung on to that, and as I grew up, I went, oh, I get it.
Starting point is 00:53:25 I slowly understood. I slowly got to my nan's level. I just had that because I just went to the Logies like a couple of weeks back. Oh, we've all got stuff going on. There was a room full of that going on. Yeah, Mr. Logie. Oh, I went to the Logies.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Hey, one third of the rest of us have hosted it before, right, mate? It was like, oh, there's Rhonda Birchmore. And it never registered on your radar before, Rhonda Birchmore. And you would have never registered on your radar before Rhonda Birchmore. But it sort of does because it's attrition and you just pick all these things. I remember Don Lane too. Don Lane walk by. What's Don Lane? Molly was just in a table in front of me.
Starting point is 00:53:56 The table behind you, me and my parents. The table behind me was the cash cow from Sunrise. Let's put it into perspective. Were you at the kids table? Because it's your first year hosting a show? Lawrence Mooney was at the ABC3 kids table. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. Let's put it into perspective. Were you at the kids' table because it's your first year hosting a show? Lawrence Mooney was at the kids' or the ABC3 kids' table.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Yeah, but in the dark. No, I was lucky. I was down on, not lucky. Did you present? No. No, but what happened was I was talking to...
Starting point is 00:54:15 I didn't watch it. I watched Fast and Furious 6, which was... I stared. Fair enough. I was afterwards talking to another comic who was nominated. I won't say his name, but he was nominated. Is it the same one as I was afterwards talking to another comic who was nominated.
Starting point is 00:54:25 I won't say his name, but he was nominated. Is it the same one as I was talking about before? For this story, yes. And I said, how's your night been? And he goes, well, I just got beat by Household. So how do you think my night's been? Oh, wow. It must have been Peter Hellion.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Am I right? There was only one choice I think you could have made. It could have been Josh Thomas. It could have been Wayne you could have made. It could have been Josh Thomas. It could have been Wayne Hope and Robin Butler. It could have been all those people. It wasn't. We confirmed that. It could have been whoever hosts The Voice.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Now, I'm only ever going to cut one thing out of an episode, so you guys have to decide between you which bit goes. That's all right. Pete last night was tweeting about Offspring, so he's not watching my show, so that's fine. But I was standing there and – Sorry, He that's fine. But I was standing there and – sorry, Heelsy show. And I was standing there and – Heelsy Junior show.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Could have been worse. Talking to people. Could have been Chris Lilley's show. Someone came up to me and said, oh, excuse me. And I was like, oh, this is going to be great. Brilliant. They've got the camera. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:55:24 I said, hi. And they said, oh, can you take a photo for me? And I had to take a photo of, is it Paul Fennec from House of Us? With this person who wanted a photo taken. So I took the photo and then handed back the camera. Great.
Starting point is 00:55:35 That's exceptional. I like to think of that person, you know, tuning in and seeing Specs and Specs and going, for whatever reason, very specifically remembering the face of that person
Starting point is 00:55:44 who took a photo weeks ago. Can I tell my Paulie Fennec story? Please. This is years ago before the Fat Pizza movie came out, probably about six months before. And I was at the Logies and this was Paul's first appearance, but he turned up dressed much in the way that he turned up recently, in a sort of costume
Starting point is 00:56:05 in character, he goes to the effort, that's good points to him and he came in he's Fennec and Macallan for both Maltese surnames so he saw in me a kindred spirit and he came up and he in many ways you are, we are we're both bad boys of comedy
Starting point is 00:56:20 we are, we have that Maltese connection, that unspoken bond between two men of similar age. You both throw thongs. You both love bogans. And we're both into comedy in a big way. And he was making a movie and he came up and he said, oh, McAuliffe, come here, come here, come here, come here, man. And I said, oh, Paulie, nice to meet you.
Starting point is 00:56:39 I knew you, you know, you think you know everybody even though you've never met them. Nice to meet you. And we had a bit of a chat. Hey, I want you to be in the movie. I want you to be in the movie of mine. And I said, oh, well, that's very nice. That's great. What's it called?
Starting point is 00:56:51 It's based off of pizza. Okay, that's good. Well, I'd love to read the script. Oh, you want to read the script? Oh, big man. Oh, wants to read the script before he makes his decision. Oh, Mr. Ordo, I have to read it and make a judgment about it. See if it's good enough for me, Mr. McAuliffe, Mr. Big Star.
Starting point is 00:57:16 How do you have said that? I didn't think it was an unreasonable thing to say. How do you put that request if he was Milo Kerrigan? Anyway, I need to say I didn't receive the script and I wasn't in it. You won't make that mistake again. No, I didn't see the film.
Starting point is 00:57:32 I'm not sure what role it was but maybe there was no script. What about the Housewives movie? Did they come and knock in for the Housewives movie? No, I'd done my dash. I'd burned my bridges before I'd crossed them, I'm afraid.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Having said that, I did see most, if not all, of the Housewives movie. I thought it was pretty funny. Right. Well, I did see most if not all of the Howzo's movie I thought it was pretty funny. Well why did you not see the rest of it? Well there was a little bit You just saw too many roles that you could have played
Starting point is 00:57:53 Raising Stripes was just starting on the next channel No I can't watch the whole thing I turned it on after I stumbled across it accidentally. It's not appointment viewing for me I must say. I turned it on I think it was probably half an hour in. Felt I hadn't missed too much in the setup. Saw the ads on SBS for the series.
Starting point is 00:58:09 I get it. Figured where it was going. Didn't really see the end. So it was essentially the middle. Much in the way that I watched Jonah from Tonga. Turned it on. It was already on. Thought, that's how I know who he is.
Starting point is 00:58:21 And it's probably going to end much the same as it began. Turned it on. You mean it was already on because you're watching Spits and Specks which is on beforehand yeah sure and
Starting point is 00:58:28 no my kid was already watching it on iview oh okay previous weekend but I do I'm into stuff like that where you can just come in and get your ten minutes
Starting point is 00:58:37 and you feel like you've watched the whole thing you know what I mean when you're busy you don't need to watch a film from beginning to end in fact there is no opportunity
Starting point is 00:58:43 these days to miss a film you just watch it whatever order you, there is no opportunity these days to miss a film. You just watch it, whatever audience you want. I think we've all got the intelligence to work it out in our minds. I think it'd be great if cinemas, if you could get like a $5 discount off your ticket, you just come in 10 minutes late and leave 10 minutes early. That'd be great.
Starting point is 00:58:55 I've never watched anything but the middle of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. I think I've seen two-thirds of it, never seen the start, never seen the end. Interesting you should say that. For me, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, never seen the whole film. For me, Love Actually. Because it's on TV all the time and it's like, oh, you flick over. I think I've seen this enough, even though I've seen it in three minute increments. That's the whole film.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I used to have, because when I lived at, when my parents used to have Foxtel and they've got the movie channels but then they've got the plus, the two hours later, like the same thing on a delay. I can see why you want to hang with them. There's a lot of advantages. Why did you ever go to New York? But there was like a two-year stretch where pretty much
Starting point is 00:59:35 every movie I saw I'd see on Foxtel and I'd come in late to it and see the back end and then just go to the two-hour plus and catch the front end. So pretty much every movie I saw over a two-year period is like memento style where I'm just coming in on the start and going, oh, so that's why he's messed up about this. Oh, I get it. It's kind of a great way to watch movies.
Starting point is 00:59:54 But sometimes it can be a great reward. I watched the back half of Abraham Lincoln Vampire Killer. Really couldn't make head nor tail with it. And the other day day first half an hour great liked it so much watched the whole thing again oh there you go
Starting point is 01:00:08 that big train sequence makes a lot more sense so if anything if we've learned nothing today it's that if you're going to watch Abraham Lincoln Vampire Killer you've got to commit
Starting point is 01:00:16 yeah you really do have to that is appointment viewing I watched I watched The Matrix 3 in a cinema and had you seen the others? no
Starting point is 01:00:23 you've got to start somewhere Carl yeah exactly yeah I never went back The Matrix 3 in a cinema. Had you seen the others? No. You've got to start somewhere, Carl. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I never went back and watched the first two. Well, my wife's first exposure to Back to the Future was Back to the Future 2, not having seen the first one. Right. So it's not going to make any sense at all, really. It could have because there was a lot of callbacks
Starting point is 01:00:39 and you sort of saw half the first one. Well, there was, but you wouldn't know the significance of any of it. That's my problem with the year. Remember the opening? Man, that is perplexing. Okay, he's going out to the picnic with his girlfriend in his new car. This is the beginning of Back to the Future 2.
Starting point is 01:00:54 And suddenly, flying DeLorean lands. It's just, look, we've got to get your kids. We've got to go. And they get in the car. And that's the start of the film. Yeah, yeah, right. You're a little behind the eights. Well, I think that brings us to the end of the film. You're a little behind the eights aren't you?
Starting point is 01:01:06 Well I think that brings us to the end of the little Dum Dum Club for another week. Sean and Josh thank you so much for joining us. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Josh can I just thank you for filling in for Tony Moclair. That's alright. Who would have been really tedious. I mean I see him
Starting point is 01:01:17 mostly every day. He would have just talked about planes the whole time. He loves planes. He would have been drawing planes. How old is Tony Moclair? He would be 14 by the level of his He loves planes, doesn't he? He would have been drawing planes. He was actually drawing... How old is Tony Monclair?
Starting point is 01:01:26 He would be... 14 by the level of his interest in planes, I would have thought. Well, that's my point. He would be mid to late 40s, I would have thought, Tony Monclair. And in Spix and Spex's office, he was drawing planes.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Yeah. Borrowed like a little girl. And we were riding all around the time with the Malaysian airline disaster and that's all he would talk about. But he would do two days with us, two days with you. I know, he really did spread his affections around. God knows what he was doing on that
Starting point is 01:01:53 fifth day of the week. I think he was just out at Tullamarine furiously jerking off. On that note. Josh, fix and specs, another 11 more episodes. Oh wow. On that note Josh Spicks and Specks Another Another like 11 more episodes
Starting point is 01:02:07 Oh wow Yeah Tonight's one Will be the 11th Yep 11 more I thought it was It's been going on for a while
Starting point is 01:02:14 For some reason 26 we got Right right Cool Watch it every week And play a bit of Classic Chandler joke bingo Which one's Chandler's
Starting point is 01:02:21 Which one's Josh's Which one's about planes Oh that's Mowcley's Which one is just Why is Beyonce In a 747 planes? Oh, that's Mowclean's. Which one is just, why is Beyonce in a 747 in this joke? Oh, that's Mowclean. How many of these fat jokes about Dave O'Neill did Carl giggle to himself for five minutes after writing? Sean, you've got a book coming out later in the year.
Starting point is 01:02:38 I do, yeah, in October. In October. Yeah. If you're listening to this. It's a novel? Well, I don't really know what it is. It's sort of a faux history book, each chapter being a separate American presidency.
Starting point is 01:02:50 History of Snake Tales. Please say yes. That's to come. That's to come. Although, I don't know. Does it still exist? It's like one for them, one for me kind of thing. Literally, if you look at it, and I do look at it a bit,
Starting point is 01:03:01 it's just he's just photocopied each panel. I'm sure there's some sort of snake tails generator where whatever he's saying is just random every day he's no charles m schultz is he no no it's incredible it's yeah snake tails is still in the it's in the herald sun every day it's worth hunting out he's some sort of expat in thailand or something now i think he just lives somewhere off the sweet cash that he's getting from uh Herald Sun every day. Last time I went, well, the only time I've been to Thailand, I was in the place where he lives and
Starting point is 01:03:31 friend of the show, Jason Chatfield, Hang on, were you with your father? Jason Chatfield was like, I could have actually hooked you up with him and you could have met souls. Yeah, but it's souls. It's not Alfred E. Newman. Take me into a special room in his office where he's just got a pile of
Starting point is 01:03:51 snake tales books that I can have. But it's the rite of passage for an Australian going to Thailand, the ping pong shows and meeting souls. Guys, thank you very much for listening. Oh, no, Sean, let's plug your book. I actually said the name of it. It's called The President's Desk. Yes. Hopefully we'll speak before October, but's plug your book, actually say the name of it. It's called The President's Desk.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Hopefully we'll speak before October, but it's just gone off to the printers, probably offshore, I think, because it's got
Starting point is 01:04:13 some photographs in it. It could very well be being printed in Maribor, where I grew up, population 8,000,
Starting point is 01:04:20 it is a print heavy town. Is that right? Yeah. Okay, well it may well be there. It could be in the hands of Sunshine Johnson and co. Maribor, right as we speak.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Mark Mokes. Yeah, Mark Mokes. Guys, thanks for listening. Get on iTunes, leave us a review and do all that stuff. If you haven't done that, we haven't mentioned that for a while. We're heavy on Facebook. We've always got lots of great visual stuff on Facebook and Twitter, so get into that.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Guys, thanks very much for listening and we'll see you next time. See you, mates.

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