The Little Dum Dum Club with Tommy & Karl - 208 - Rob Sitch & Lehmo

Episode Date: September 30, 2014

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Hey mates, welcome once again into the little dum-dum club for another week. My name is Tommy Dasolo, thank you so much for joining us. Sitting next to me is the other half of the program, Carl Chandler. G'day dickhead. Doing this from corporate HQ today. We're doing it, we're very excited because we're within Working Dog. Yeah. Within Working Dog.

Like, before anyone asks, I have no idea how we got here. There was a guy jump out of a van, chloroform us, passion bag over the head.

We just woke up then and we're here. And it's weird that we're doing this in Working Dog because our guests are Harley Breen and Carl Woodbridge.

Largely, why would we be in here? Well, first of all, joining us from Breakfast on Gold FM and also from Utopia, Anthony Limo Leeman. Thank you.

Thank you. I have had a number of people say to me just this last weekend, say, are you Anthony Leeman or are you Limo? What's going on with you? We'll get into this. We'll get into this.

Also, first time on the show from Frontline and from Utopia, Rob Sitch. Yay! Well, there's your opening topic of conversation because I've got an admission. I'll say it now. We're not recording, are we? About Eps 6, I realised I didn't know your first name. Oh, yeah, fine.

I've known you for years. Yeah. And then I waited. One of the good things about doing a TV show is it has credits. It was only when you watched the credits on episode one. But for episode one, I go, oh, it's Anthony. Well, this is the thing, because we talk about this on the show a little bit whenever Limo comes on, and we're fascinated that, you know,

you do work occasionally on the project or frequently you work on the project. Yeah, yeah, yep, yep. So you're presenting the news in a suit as Limo. Yes, as Limo, yeah. It's talking about Syria. Limo, let's catch up with Limo. It is odd. I played footy with guys.

So, mate, you feel better, Rob. I played footy with guys for five years who didn't know my name was Anthony. So, that's not... It's happened before that people don't know my full name. It is weird when I'm in corporate situations. I thought you were about to say in court. Yeah, yeah. In court, yeah, yeah.

So, for example, recently I was at the official AFL function at the MCG before the footy. Big stuff. Yeah. And obviously there's loads of corporates there. So I'm being introduced to people who have important regular jobs. And it feels weird introducing yourself as Limo. And then I do double introductions. I go, Anthony Lehman or Limo.

Yes, you might know. It's my maiden name. Have you been to school with people that they get to about 40 and they've had a nickname their whole life and they say, how do I serious up myself? So they go Anthony D. Lehman. Put an initial

in there. Like they're in an investment bank or something. Or could you go two initials and then the surname? The third. So you'd be, what's your middle initial? Well, fortunately, my parents, in a sort of act of rare vision, realised that the name Ian was never going to go out of fashion. So it's Ian, I.

Right, so you'd be R.I. Sitch. Rest in... The third. The third, yeah. Rest in Sitch. Well, funny you say that, because everyone, well, not everyone, but an increasing percentage of people write my name Stitch. Right.

Rob Stitch. Yeah, yeah. And I let it go because it's like it's just below the bar for stopping a good conversation. Yeah, yeah. But by the way, you know, I'm glad we bought your house, but on the contract, can you? it does need to be sitch and then thanks for having me on the project but my name is rob sitch well finally last year i realized that the abc started calling me rob oh wow i thought look

just for copyright reasons i better and then i so so I said, look, I'm going to just experiment. I'll start correcting people for the first time in 20 years. Yeah. And, you know, the first one felt awkward, you know. It's not a big deal, but, you know, there's no double T. Yeah. Everyone does it. Yeah.

It's fine. The third person I did it to, I said, no, it's actually sitch. He said, no, no, it's not. They've corrected you back. That's what I told them off. Oh, wow. Have you, so you've never corrected people before, even like if a radio interview or something, would you not?

You know, often I just let, often they're so good natured. Yeah, yeah. Here's the thing. I love motor racing and I was asked to be in the Celebrity Grand Prix. Yep. And, you know, it's like when you know deep down you go, I reckon I can do this because I've loved it and understood it. I had a go-kart and all sorts of things.

And I got up there one day and I got up the front of the grid and I thought, I'm doing it for one reason, so that Darrell Eastlake can call my name. So back in those days, you programmed the VHS, you've got everything and I've got home and the mood at home is, how good? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, no. Do you call my name?

Yeah. There he is, Rob Stitch coming up there, Stitch. I don't know where that tape is now. It's kind of a weird reverse loophole, isn't it, in that if someone gets your name wrong, as soon as you bring it up, it's like you're petty. It's suddenly in the wrong. It should almost be on your driver's licence and your birth certificate

you have your actual name and then you have all the possible misspellings of your name just so that it's still legal and you can still you know you get a letter that's you know you've got a sign for that's made out to the wrong thing or the or the dictionary pronunciation you know after every word in the dictionary they have the pronunciation just a phonetic yeah or siri just cuts in on your behalf yeah yeah well how often do you get that with the predictive text and whatever? Surely that comes up with your name a lot. It's funny enough, my phone keeps correcting Rob to Ron.

Oh, right. Good old Ron Stitch. It's a slow learner because I've had it for three years. Yeah, yeah. And it's funny those ones are predictive. Like I get to go Oaks. I don't know where that crept into my life. But instead of O-K-O-K-O-K-S, you know.

Yeah. And it gives me the English oak tree spelling of Oaks. Right. And I'm going, you know, we're iOS 7 already. We're about to go iOS 7. Yeah. Wouldn't you have thought that Apple would be up to speed with that? Would you think it would learn?

Yeah. You would have thought so. Mine has learnt Limo now. But I've had a few variations over the years on Limo, as you can imagine. But the worst on pronunciations, the worst one I get is when people will go with Lamo. That's always good, particularly when you're being introduced for a gig.

Yeah. Please welcome Lamo. Yeah. I did Red Faces on Hay Hat Saturday years ago. All right, mate. We've all got stuff going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You mean Red Farchays.

Yeah, and Darren Simmers introduced me. So Darryl Summers has gone, he's looked at the sheet and he's going oh, I don't know, what the, is it is it limo? Lamo? Lomo? Lom? Let's go, oh, I don't know, is it limo? Lamo, lomo, lomo, limo. Let's go, we'll go with limo.

We'll go with limo. Oh, no. There's not even an I anywhere in it. A bloke standing next to a pink stuffed ostrich thinks you're a bit silly. That's great. The other funny thing with red faces is when you have to go on it, you actually realise that every smart, funny person in the world over 25 years has been through.

There's no new way to judge somebody on that thing. Were you on or were you a judge? I've done both. Oh, really? But Santo was, I reckon, almost in the last year of it on Saturday night, was going along as a judge on retrocessions. Yeah, right. And I'm going, there's nothing left.

That's also great that you have to specify when it was on Saturday night. That's right. That's a bizarre clarification that we now have to make. The forum was cut up into best ofs. But Santo managed to. So they went to, Darryl Summers have to make. His form was cut up into best ofs. But Santo managed to. So they went to, Darryl Summers went to him. He said, Santo. And he goes, and he turned to the performer and he goes,

how do you think you went? Oh, no. The worst. That's worse than anything. And I think the person went, oh, okay, no. You know what? You know what Santo is? Who Santo was challenging there?

Every radio program director in the country after every show, they walk in, how do you think it went? How do you think it went? Oh, you're the one listening to it. Just tell us. This is an air check. I mean, what do you mean? Oh, no. So when you competed on Red Faces, what did you do?

I did Thunderbirds with Nick Bafala. Oh, yeah. Yep. Jesus, what am I talking about? We were doing a – we had the mad idea to take a year off uni and tour the Melbourne Uni Review. Right. Around the country.

And so we were – it was a knife edge, you know. Yeah, right. You know, it's like the start-ups, you know. When you hear the story of Airbnb and you go, whoo! And we were at the... And so we went on... Someone had heard about it and we went to the show,

reversed the show that night so we could all run out the door and go in and do Red Faces and won it. And it was like a restaurant out of a movie. Suddenly the bookings were... Yeah, right. And a McDonald's voucher as well, yeah. Well, we won a car stereo system. Oh, nice.

It was like from the GIF. Yeah. But it was... from the GIF. Yeah. But it was, so that kind of saved us. So I look back very fondly on it. Right, so that helped you out. Red Faces did not help me in the slightest.

What did you do? I came third. I did a stand-up routine. I'd been doing stand- Hang on, hang on. When you say you came third, there was three contestants. Correct.

Yeah, right, right. I came third and I was three contestants. Correct. Yeah, right, right. I came third and I had been doing stand-up for, it had been six months since my first gig. I'd probably done ten five-minute spots and then I thought it was time for live national television. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready to go.

With a guy with a big gong behind him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Like that didn't give you pause at all. Yeah'm ready. I'm ready to go. With a guy with a big gong behind him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Like that didn't give you pause at all. Yeah, yeah. I thought I'm going all right on stage. The big gong is the closest thing to someone saying, how do you think you're winning? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let me tell you. So I went on and it was terrible. It was, of course, it was terrible. What sort of gear does a young limo have? Well, they talked to me. When I went for the audition, I made the mistake. Before the 72 terrorists joke, what do you go with back then? I made the mistake of telling them I was from the country

and they have a little chat to you before you do the audition and they went, you need to do stuff about the country. This is a great angle. Like some producer who's looking for angles. Right. Of course, you've got two and a half minutes. Finally, Red Faces has got a hook. So I'm desperate to go on TV and win the 500 bucks.

So I go, yeah, sure, it's a great idea. I'll write five minutes of new. Oh, yes. So I do and I go on and, sure, it's a great idea. I'll write five minutes of new. Oh, yes. So I do and I go on and, of course, I get gonged. Anyway, I got six in total. The blonde guy from Indecent Obsession, I can't remember. He's marking you down. He gave me five.

Sophie Formica from a former Home and Away star who now works on a Gold Coast radio station. Not that I Google her occasionally to see how her career's going. She gave me one and Red gave me zero. Oh, Sophie. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, I came third. The woman who won was a Paraguayan woman who did a traditional Paraguayan dance

whilst balancing a pot in her head. How can you beat that? It's tough to beat. She's doing breakfast on Triple M now. Do you know what? She was about to do stand-up and then she was from Paraguay. You need to do a traditional dance. She said, well, what do I do with this pot?

Balance it on your head. We've got the country guy, we've got the Paraguayan guy. It was the other person. on your head. What is... We've got the country guy, we've got the baritone guy, we've got the baritone guy. It was the other person. We're four blokes singing a song Parade from Adelaide. Oh, yeah. So,

the woman with the pot in her head wins and still I swear, still to this day, I have mates of mine after certain gigs will ring me and they'll go,

how was your gig? I'll go, yeah, it was pretty good. And they'll say, were you funnier than a woman with a pot in her head? I thought you were going to say say were you funnier than a woman with a pot on her head? I thought you were going to say to this day, I see a woman

with a pot on her head and it just boils me over with rage. But what a stitch up by the producers because they're telling you to work the exotic angle of the... I believe it's called a sitch up, but keep going. They're telling you to work the angle of being from the country knowing that they've got this Paraguayan

debt. You never... The country can't compete. I was never going to beat that. angle of being from the country, knowing that they've got this Paraguayan... Yeah. Like, the country can't compete. I was never going to beat that. What is your country material? Oh, look, I said I was from this really small country town. Like, there wasn't even... I've watched it back. There really aren't jokes in it.

In the driving home afterwards, did you rewrite it and you've used it ever since? Well, you know what I did? My big mistake is my centipede, which was a joke I was doing at the time, which was getting laughs. So my joke at the time was, you know how a lot of towns have big things to signify what the town's about? So there's a big banana because they grow bananas, and there's a big orange and there's a big whatever else.

I said, I'm from this little town called Pibinga, and four people live there. So to signify what the town's about, we've got a big whatever else. I said, I'm from this little town called Pibinga and four people live there. So to signify what the town's about, we've got a big fuck all. So this was my joke off in live rooms, right? We've got a big fuck all. It took 30 council workers six months to put it up. That was the joke, which was getting decent laughs. But of course, I can't say that.

So I say big stuff all, which completely wipes the impact of the joke. Oh, Dad. Yeah. I know. So Red wrote on his card Stuffel. So that was how he scored. Oh, he got you. Sweet callback.

So have you brought this up to, I imagine you would have been in contact with him? Look, I've brought it up with Sophie for Micah. Oh, really? Yeah, because Will and I did a thing about it when we're on triple m and we got and sophie came on the show so we had a laugh with her about the fact that she gave me one out of ten and i i've got i'm pretty sure i have brought it up with red but of course red can't remember it because yeah yeah you know because he came so many people over the years. It's just Pol Pot, remember that corpse. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So he... He lives right near me and I see him at the park all the time. So if you want, I'll get in his ear. Yeah, bring it on. It's cool what you've done to Lima all those years ago. I think when I brought it up, Red gave me that look that you get when you think you're the only person who's bringing something up. It's like, you know, if Dermot Brereton,

someone comes up to Dermot and goes, I was there in 89. Like, they were the only one at the ground. And he's like, oh, yeah. Okay, sure. Let's hear your story. I was there in 89. Funnily enough, I went along.

Oh, you were there in 89? Yeah. Oh, right. But I went along and I've gone, oh, God. You know what? It's the grand final. They're crap tickets. They're buried in a pocket.

Yeah. Right by the point post. Oh. In the exact pocket where Gary Ablett kicked on. It was like the best seats you could ever have. You saw him thieve that ball out of the ruck and kick it over his shoulder? Yeah. McGuinness, he took one out.

I was like, it was in front of you, you know, like it was like 3D glasses stuff. Right there. Because, you know, they are football, when you're down there at one end and the football's at the other end, it's a long way away. It's a long way away. But when Gary Ablett's in your pocket, he's in your lap. When he's in your pocket.

His shadow fell over me. Yeah, and it hurt. It broke a rib. Just getting back to your name, Limo, what I do like how we started to talk about Anthony Lehman, that on the show you have the credit Anthony Lehman, which I think we're getting around to that maybe. On Utopia.

Yeah, on Utopia compared to the project where you're Limo as a news reporter basically, but it's like you've got your full name, Anthony Lehman, on Utopia. I like it that almost like Anthony Lehman is now your stage name. Your name is your stage name now. I hadn't thought about that.

When I'm pretending to be someone else. When I've got a serious role, I'm Anthony Lehman. If it's a proper acting role, then I'll be Anthony Lehman. But what happens is it's worth, in the sort of legal section, the titles, it's worth doing those things because it'll be dubbed into German at one stage in the future and people will be looking up IMDB.

I can't find him anywhere. It's weird. It's sort of like, it's almost like how The Rock kind of gradually transitioned into Dwayne Johnson. Remember he was Dwayne The Rock Johnson for a little while. That took some effort. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

So I'm going from Limo to Anthony Leman. To Anthony Limo Leman. Yeah. And now it's just full. And then the seamless transition back to Anthony Lman. To Anthony Lemo Lehman. Yeah. And now it's just full. And then the seamless transition back to Anthony Lehman. So my list of people, when you meet, they're actually, you go, they're like really nice people to meet. Oh, you've met them?

Don't you reckon everyone keeps a kind of a list? Because that's what everyone asks. I ask all the time. Yeah, absolutely. What are they like to meet? What are they like to meet? Yeah. And, you know, he was just totally easy to meet decent guy really really

lovely bloke could not have been nicer you so you sometimes get a skewed image of people when you work in radio or television interviewing them because they're selling you something sure so they're so they're on so they're on slightly better behavior but having said that some do leave a different impression than others. And he was an extra nice guy. Who's top three and bottom three? Look, top three. You know what?

It's hard to go... And I know this sounds boring because everyone says it, but Hugh Jackman... I was about to say. ..is a remarkable individual in the sense that when you interview him, and you would have met him before as well, Rob, you interview him and he is just, he is good to go from the outset. You can ask him one question, he's a way.

He brings stories to the table, he's got things to say, he's always in a good mood, it's never too hard, it never goes too long, it's never too difficult, he's just, he sells a movie like no one else. Yeah, and that's why I hate him. But in Brownlow terms, H Jackman, oh yeah he is three votes he's in in golfing terms he's off scratch yeah he's off scratch yeah yeah he's he's absolutely funny enough i reckon now most most people because everyone has to travel around the world yeah you know you funny enough i find it's

it's a rock and roll i used to measure people when we did the panel i used to measure entourages yeah right and so i think the most we had might have been i might be unfair to someone american songstress call it could be avril levine i can't remember right i think it was 17 or 19 people. And then the lowest we ever had was Warnie drove himself. Warnie. Not only that, I add this. When I got there, he beat me to my own show and was already having a fag with the make-up ladies out the back.

I bet he was. And he was just going. But just so easy. Warnie, I love Warnie. He is a superstar. You hear all those stories and he's someone I would, there's not that many people I would genuinely like to meet, but he seems like that because you never hear a bad story

about meeting him personally. You know, my take on Warnie, having got to know him a little bit over the last 12 months, he's a bloke who is always in a good mood, always in a good mood and genuinely wants good things to happen for people around him. Like he really does. He wants things to work out for you. Yeah.

And he'll really do his best to help in any way that he possibly can. But he is up and about, super positive all the time. You're right. We should get him on this podcast. Yeah. We should get him on. We should get him on. Because he's got...

Mind you, it's that same attitude that's got him in trouble a few times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. Before the show, I think we were asking him, what happens in the Channel 9 commentary booth before you? And he started imitating Bill Laurie warming up. Yeah, right, yeah. And he's always... His tail's always wagging,. Yeah, right, yeah. And he's always...

His tail's always wagging, isn't it? Oh, yeah, he's always... Speaking of entourage's guess, we had Usher come into the radio. Yeah, right. Have a guess. Entourage. Ooh, okay. Numbers. I would guess you've just beaten

American Songstress. 18. 18? Three. 18. 18? No, three. One. Oh. He came in with one person from the record company. And Warnie drove him in. Warnie drove him there.

He came in with one person from the record company. Warnie ushered usher. But we couldn't, because we were waiting for an entourage. And he's just come in with one person from the record company. Wow. We were waiting for an entourage and he's just come in with one person from the record company. Wow. Which we're very impressed. There's an American rapper who's just advertised for a job on their staff and it's he'll pay you 50 grand a year to roll joints for him. You just go around and you just roll on blunts for him. 50 G's a year to just be a...

Does that go on a business card? Yeah. Legal issues. If he gives you the arse, where's that going on your resume? No, how awkward is it to fill in for your occupation when you're leaving the country? I roll drugs for people. But there's none on me right now.

Yeah, yeah. But that's what I do. I actually just went to New Zealand a couple of weeks ago and unfortunately they've got the occupation too. Yeah. And something suitably nondescript i just wrote media right yeah but we didn't have any check-in luggage so we were out of there like you know greyhound at the start of a race bang straight through and and they look at us you know height

and terror yeah carry on baggage you know what do you have a house here no you're just staying here but you and he goes what do you do and I go oh no I'm going to walk it through now it's great that you're still doing because I mean I feel like that

I still put my first job as my job I don't want to put comedian what was it because I'll put that graphic designer there you go I'll do that

maybe you'll make me draw or something they were also sus at New Zealand because you've put Rob Sitch on the form they're like no no it's Stitch using an alias you've got to Sitch on the form. They're like no, no, it's Stitch. Using

an alias. You've got to watch out for this one. It's Stutch. So anything I'd know? Oh, you know that one. What do you make? Oh, anything I'd know? No. What else? So did they eventually let you through without having to give up something that they would have recognised?

Did you eventually cough up the red face's appearance? Are you familiar with the Thunderbirds? Yeah, we had Nick Buffalo just in here before, so yeah. I don't want to disparage the New Zealand Custom Service because they're always up for a bit of a chat. So eventually, happy ending, I was thinking, what got to New Zealand? And they said, oh, the castle. He eventually, happy ending, I did a thing in Watt,

got to New Zealand and they said, oh, the cast, he goes, I've seen the cast, you know, and then I'm going. Then I was away.

So I, you know, I love going to New Zealand. I don't want to disparage. Yeah. Are you going back there again soon? Well,

I just realised a guy got thrown off a plane the other day for actually writing the word terrorist so I'm just going to be a bit careful. The little dum-dum club does get played on Air New Zealand asers. A guy got thrown off a plane the other day for actually writing the word terrorist, so I'm just being a bit careful.

The Little Dumb Dumb Club does get played on Air New Zealand as the in-flight entertainment. You never know. You do want to be cautious. Rob, in your travels, where is – okay, let me tell you a very quick story first, and then that will help me frame my question to you. I was in Las Vegas with Fitzy, Ryan Fitzy Fitzgerald and I said... Is that how we're going to do everyone's names from now on? Yeah, yeah. Well, it's just that there's a Fitzy that works at Triple M

so sometimes when I'm talking to me, they go, the Triple M Fitzy? Yeah, yeah. So Fitzy, Big Brother Fitzy and I said to him... That sounds classic that Austerio need to have nicknames for someone already called Fitzy. So... I think that Austerio need to have nicknames for someone already called Fitzy. So I say to Fitzy as we're about to, we check into our hotel and we're about to go for a walk just down the strip

and I said, mate, this is going to be a nightmare for you. I said, I give it. And we had a little bet between ourselves how long it would take before someone yells out, Fitzy! So I said, mate, it's going to happen within five minutes. And he's like, mate, we're in Vegas. No, an hour. And I swear we walked out of the hotel.

It was about 35 seconds. Oh, someone goes, Fitzy! And he's like, oh, g'day, mate. And that was a marker for the rest of the holiday. He was copping it everywhere he went. But have you been in weird spots around the world where just your classic Aussie has piped up? Fortunately, one of the benefits of getting older is the...

I went to the island of Eos. Yeah. And, you know, I think if you're over 19 years of age, they don't let you on the island. Right. So you normally protect... That was all Australians, you know. They let you on the island. Right. So you normally protect – that was all Australians. They saved them after the global financial crisis.

But I find with comedy, most people come up to you in a good mood. Yeah, right. Do you know what I mean? They sort of – the one that I like that is occasionally is the guys with standards, so they're in a tradies ute in one of those, you know, V8 things. And I used to get this a bit. They'd go, say, gee, and I'd turn around and all they'd do is they'd do that little quick flick of their fingers.

Yeah. I'm not a dickhead. That's it. Yeah, yeah. Just saying g'day. Just said g'day. You said back. That's it.

Deal done. Yeah. I like the idea of the tradies going by and they're sipping their flavoured milk going, bloody Mike Moore over here, yeah! Yeah. No, they've got standards. Yeah. I like the one where you get with them, which might happen with some tradies,

or just more likely groups of young drunk blokes. This happened to me at the cricket, actually. I was the catcher. Well, you've got such a yellable name as well. Yeah. Like, I feel like yelling cricket actually. I was the catcher. Well, you've got such a yellable name as well. I feel like yelling it now. I was the catcher at the... You know in the T20 last year they had catchers would sit in the crowd? So I was a catcher for a game.

And that will not be happening again this season. It was a terrible idea. It never quite worked. Anyway, so I'm sitting there for a whole game and at one point there's a group of lads behind me and I'm listening to the commentary because you have to listen to the commentary because i might cross to you so i can only vaguely hear them through my earphones they go lame-o lame-o lame-o lame-o lame-o lame-o lame-o lame-o and then eventually i turn around they go fucking dickhead And I just laughed.

Like, I had to pay it. It just made me laugh. Do you know, when I was talking about the Grand Prix before, I did the first ever one, and Albert Park was packed, you know, on the day. And you were sitting on the grid about an hour before the big boys. Yeah, yeah, they get you out early, yeah. And you're right.

And the grandstands were, it was just a hundred thousand plus of people and i'm sitting there you know the fire suits on focusing yeah just zoning out and all this and fair dinkum from like i reckon 30 rows are in one of these huge grandstands crystal clear i can go hey robbie i've got the motor revving crystal clear I can go hey Robbie and it's important Robbie there's no way he'll I know you can hear me so I'm winding down the window to speak to him and then finally

you nod again and there's a fucking dickhead I didn't pay me that ultimate nothing like your drunk blokes down the pub

the other one I hate is when they get you wrong and they're convinced you're someone else we've been talking about this one I hate is when they get you wrong And they're convinced you're someone else We've been talking about this lately I went out with Lawrence Mooney one night I've just got home He copped

It was that thing where we went to the football We went to the football a couple of weeks in a row And I thought this would be interesting to see where Lawrence is on the radar these days With his own show And he got a lot of people coming up and they all thought he was you. Really? He got limoed all night.

Loz. I've never had Lawrence Mooney comparisons before, no. Okay. No. You know what I got recently? I'm getting my hair cut. It's my hairdresser. True story.

We believe you. Does that mean everything to this point? I never went on red faces. He's cutting my hair. He's English. He's cutting my hair and he goes, you know who you look like? I said, who's that?

I've had some good ones over the years. I go, yeah. Who's that? I'm ready for someone to put a spring in my step. Ewan McGregor. Lazy Wednesday afternoon. Robert De Niro, had that one before. Oh yeah, I can see that. Quentin Tarantino, I've had before as well. A little chinny. And he goes, nah, you've really got a bit of the Oliver Hardy's about you. Wow. I said Oliver Hardy from laurel and hardy that big fat bastard with the hit on the mustache he goes yeah it's just in the eyes yeah his eyes squint because the rest of his head's so fat they push his eyes close was that just because i wasn't talking for

five minutes oliver hardy wow that's it's as funny as it would you want to say you realize you're just insulting me straight up. Yeah. Okay, really? The big fat bloke. Well, that comes back a little bit to your role on Utopia. I'm sort of a little bit obsessed by the idea of casting and we've talked about this a lot on the show

about how you do that sort of thing. I love the idea of you, maybe Rob, you looking at Limo, you've got this job for this character that needs to be, you know, a real bit of a dickhead. You go, Lemo, come straight to mind. This guy's a complete fuckhead. It's funny because we shot a small test like over a year before we did the series.

Yeah, I reckon it was 18 months even before, yeah. We got a building that was about to be demolished for single-room apartments, I think. before, yeah. We got a building that was about to be demolished for single-room apartments, I think. Yeah, yeah. And we went up there and just, with a very basic, hardly any set dressing. And so the idea of the character was these big officers have people that come in and these guys never suffer pain,

they cause pain. Yep. So that they just walk in with the latest whim and some people just are in a really good mood the whole time not realizing the damage they cause the power sort of insulates them so it was that character we often talked about that didn't we yeah just that idea of the way you roll up the way you sit in the you don't realize you're interrupting you don't and you and because you're happy this is all all positive. It's all great.

It's all great. So, yeah, so my guy is always in a good mood but just ruins everyone's day all the time. And it's never Jim's fault either. No, no. It's never Jim's fault. And we started adding things like, you know, you don't have a pen. You know, people like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There's actually no limit to how they start spoiling your day. Yeah. They accidentally take the wrong document off your desk. You send them the documents. They ask you to send them again. They ring you at five to five on a Friday with something you've got to spend the weekend. Which I know you love, the line. It was the episode where – what was I suggesting that eventually was –

Space program. Oh, yeah. So I'm suggesting a space program. I said it's a great idea because Rob went to... Tony went to a primary school, Rob's character, and did a brainstorm session. Of course, primary school kids, they yell out space. So Tony's been nice.

We had... Oh, yeah, sure. And then because of a new computing, a new IT issues in the building, this gets emailed to me. So I try and push the space program. I mentioned it to the Prime Minister and everything and then eventually

it doesn't happen and then my character says to Rob's character oh well lesson learned that's it he's the one by who

that's been pushing it through lesson learned but I've had a lot of people get in touch with me on Twitter and say I hate

your character. Yeah. On the basis of? Which is really weird, which I think is a compliment. Yeah. That they live with someone like that. That I think my character either annoys them in the show or they know someone like it.

Yeah. Well, this is the thing. With that sort of set up where, you know, with the show being set up the way it is, Rob, there's you, there's Celia that are sort of like the two. The two of us are two people whose lives are being ruined. Yeah, you're the two sane people

left on the planet. Everyone else is just mindlessly destroying things or making things wrong or whatever. As a kid, if I watched comedies like that, I would get so anxious and it sort of brought it back to me

watching the show. I just get so anxious because you just feel like reaching to the TV and going, either kill the people doing it wrong or kill the people left to put them out of their misery like it makes me so uptight it's interesting because what it's based on is that is the modern workplace process that that the person with responsibility everyone then goes oh you're responsible and then they drift away into process

yeah so they don't they turn part of their brain off and so in our office there's only two people with true responsibility and everyone else is just going through the process yeah and you can't sack people now yeah you can't you can't even give them a bad review and because it's a public service people get they go yeah that, that's exactly what happens. People who work in public service, I've bumped into and they've gone, that is exactly like our office. Yeah, great. Which is, there's all these dimwits that you just can't do

anything about. People in those kinds of jobs are obsessed with how shit it all is. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, they'll frequently go, oh yeah, don't ever get into that. It's all just... But no one seems to be able to have the capacity to... No one ever moves on.

Well, it's all about the security. Yeah. Once you're in there, you can't ever lose that job. Yeah. So they love the security of it. Yeah, I used to have friends that were just obsessed with getting this council job, this government job, and you go, what do you want to do?

They're like, I don't care. As soon as I get something, I'm protected for life. Like, what a bizarre way of of using the years you have in you you're slightly secure but you're doing something you don't want to do what's like it's like when you go it comes along what do you call initiation or you what do they call when you turn up and there's a briefing? Orientation. Orientation.

Yeah, but there's a where it's an indoctrination. Oh, yeah, yeah. Indoctrination. And you have to sit an exam. You have to pass the indoctrination exam to show you're safe to walk around. Right. So in various film shoots I've had to, because we've been in a place that needs an indoctrination, you have to sit through a lecture and answer questions. I mean, can't the...

Isn't that what witch's hats are for? Oh, yeah, I know. So that's what... So people really connect to that in Utopia. Yeah, that sense of frustration. The sense of frustration. Beyond common sense. Yeah, absolutely.

I've done a bit of temping here and there, and it's kind of... It's that thing where You go into sort of Government places Sort of similar to that And it's always You know You meet people on the first day

And they go Oh yeah You're temping here for four weeks What's your story And you go Ah I want to do comedy And you know

Do shows in the comedy festival And from then You're just the most hated person In the building Because it's like You're The fact that you're treating this As a little temporary thing Right And then you're building because it's like you're the fact that you're treating this is a little temporary thing and then you're going on it's just like this is a little bit of

extra a little bit of fun for me for four weeks but everyone else it's like oh well this is where we've ended up so yeah enjoy your little visit into our full-time world so how do you play having learned that lesson how do you modify oh i've lesson, how do you modify Oh, I've learned no lesson. I still behave in the same way. Oh good, I was just worried that you'd actually done something there. This was a couple of years, a few years ago now and at the time I could

never work out like, why does everyone hate me at these jobs? And then a year after I stopped sort of doing that stuff I was like You've convinced yourself that's the reason why. It's because you have aspirations outside of that that stuff I was like you've convinced yourself that's the reason why it's because you have aspirations outside of that workplace I love the episode where Celia's character sees another

guy in the office on seek.com just openly at his desk and she just can't do anything about it because she's saying it's like on your honeymoon looking up e e-harmony well i used to work in a i did for like maybe six months or something i worked in this government

department that was uh it was just doing data entry but it was uh proceeds of crime kind of stuff so it was sort of like if they bust if the police bust someone uh growing marijuana at the back of their house, it was like everything that has been either bought with money that they've made from that or that they've bought to do that stuff kind of goes into a system and has to be catalogued for how much. And it's also places where murders have happened and stuff. So I get this stack of files that I'm just putting into a system

and it's all about pretty heavy crime and stuff. And so at least to start with, I was like fascinated. I was like, man, this is really cool. This is really interesting. But everyone there is just – it's just white noise to them. They're over it. It's like, yeah, what are we – so anyway, that bloody Honda, the way the woman got strangled in the back, that's kind of an auction house.

Just complete – like totally over it. Well, process has in so many ways, because process is so efficient, that outsourcing and process, like call centres and, you know, when people ring me, I often wonder, I often try to find out where in the world they are, which, how outsourced is the call centre? You know, they might ring, hi, I'm from Toyota Australia, and I'm going, no, you did, you know, Cousins Imperial Leather Soap yesterday.

Yeah. What were they ringing you about? It was just something to which I got the wrong number. They're ringing me personally. They go, oh, I know who you're trying to call, and I can't tell you that for privacy reasons. They've called me. But I'll tell you one of the ones is i love knowing that trying to guess the sheet that's in front of them yeah yeah if the person you ring says i say this name go there and go

there and the best you know if you if you look if you're bored i often kid somebody's bored i go get on the phone and try and cancel a credit card that is i'll tell you that is a nightmare oh it was almost hand-to-hand warfare at the end where you i just realized that that her metrics were to not actually let me cancel that credit card yeah anything but let me losing a client yeah is and in the end she goes, I'm sorry, Robert, but I can't help you. Oh, really? Yeah.

And she must have hit a button like, you know, Mr Burns on The Simpsons. Yeah. And I go, are you telling me – and then obviously a manager's listening in and going, you know, that's – it was like DEFCON 5 or whatever. And then literally a little calm came over and she goes, all right, Robert, you can cancel your credit card. It was like the manager came down and said, you've done enough. I always, whenever I'm on those calls, I always think of,

can you remember years ago, and this would be 20 years ago now, this was like, I remember one of the first ever emails that went around everywhere, and it was a guy phoning Reem Hot Water, and he had had a leak in his Reem. Can you remember this one? He had a leak in his Reem Hot Water system, and it was a weekend. So he rang Reem and left a message, and it was like,

I've got a leak in my hot water system. You're going to have to come around and fix it. In fact, for people listening, if you Googled it, I'm sure you can find it. And then anyway, it goes on. There's about six calls. By the last call, this guy is beyond postal and he's so angry that it's hilarious.

And the build of the calls is one of the funniest things ever. So that's always in my head when I'm getting frustrated. I think I don't want to become entertainment for the world. I get the opposite because they tell you now, they let you know this call is being recorded and if I'm in a bad mood, if it's a bill dispute or something, there's a part of me that goes, maybe I'll go viral at the end of this.

I almost think if this gets bad enough, I'm just going to let rip and really turn it on. You know the best one I've ever heard is Tom Gleeson goes the other way. He was on the phone to someone once, got really annoyed, and he said, I just want to confirm this is being recorded, right? Yeah? This is being recorded. Well, play this in a fucking training session, will you?

And then started schooling the person on the other end about how to speak to someone who's a client on the phone. Wow. Do you know that hot water service is going bust? That is, there's a category of incommodity I reckon of that produces tears. You know what you say? Sometimes it goes, I'll give you another one about – this is fictional,

but you know Tony McClare used to play Guido? Oh, yeah, yeah. And there's a couple on that. If you're up for – you're just a lazy five minutes, and you want to laugh your head off, when he rings up the guy for the job and he keeps ringing him back. And he goes, yeah, mate, you picked me up at – he's a political child. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, you come around and pick me up. You know, in that fantastic voice he does. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I told you. Go. And he keeps ringing him back. And it is. Literally, it's seriously.

Let's do it now. It's tears. I love it. I used to love Gwyn. I don't know. I don't think I've heard that call. I like him pulling up Buckingham Palace because the Queen was visiting Australia and going, if she wants, she can stay on my couch.

She'd stay for free if she does some shop. She've seen my nan's fish and chip shop. But if she takes any pickled onions, she'll get the sack. But he used to go, at about the fourth phone call, you're going, right, I'm out now. I can't. It's hard to listen to. I can't. I'm done. And the driver should leave'm out now. I can't. It's hard to listen to. I can't.

I'm done. And the driver's like, yeah, g'day, dickhead, it's me again. G'day, dickhead. I don't think I've told this on the show before, but a friend of mine works at a bike store in Port Melbourne and a guy called up, this is a little while ago now, and goes, oh, hey, man, yeah, I've got this brand of bike that you guys sell in there and I've had it for about six months and I was wondering if I could sell it to you,

like if you guys would buy it from me and you might unsell it secondhand to a customer. And my friend goes, oh, we don't really do secondhand bikes in here so we can't help you. But, you know, just put it, seriously, put it on Gumtree and, you know, someone will take it off your hands within like a day. And the guy goes, oh, yeah, yeah, that's really, that's really good advice.

That's really smart. Boy, man, I'm glad that you told me that because my next step was going to be calling up the KFC in Geelong and seeing if anyone there wanted it. And then it's like, thanks, mate. And my mate's just like, no, I thanks mate so many follow-on questions i love that i love those old you know an old pe teacher of mine used to tell this story just speaking of that that that level that brings you to tears and he's swears to this day it's true

well i say to this day i haven't seen him for a long time, but he used to swear this story was 100% true. Right? And again, I was reminded of it recently because we did a topic on the radio of injuries you've sustained that you can't recall how you got them. Yeah. Because I wake up with a scratch on my head and I couldn't remember. We had a girl phone through who said she went out on a big night with friends

and woke up the next morning with a broken leg in plaster and couldn't remember doing it. That's a big night out. Wow. But anyway, so this old PE teacher used to tell this story about, and this is back in the 80s, right? A bunch of mates around at a guy's house, they're going out on a Saturday night. Going to watch Limo in Richmond. Oh, yeah, yeah. Richmond Street.

Everyone's ready. The guy who lives there is in the shower. He comes out with a towel wrapped around him. And all the boys there are having a couple of beers watching telly. And he walks over to the television and leans over to change the channel on the television. And wakes up in hospital.

And the doctor's there and he says to the doctor, what's going on? The doctor says, you've got concussion, you've got stitches in your sack, you've got a broken rib and a dislocated hip. And he says, what the fuck has gone on? He's walked over to change channels in television with a towel wrapped around him. The cat is beneath him, has jumped up and clawed his sack.

Right? His head has cannon forward into the television. He's knocked himself out and fallen on the ground. The blokes have picked him up to put him on the couch and they're laughing so much they've dropped him on the coffee table. Which has broken a rib and dislocated a hip. Oh, wow. That's something where if you put that in a TV show

the view would go nah that didn't happen that didn't happen yeah maybe if that was you maybe it was Oliver Hardy

mate they wouldn't have been able to pick Oliver Hardy up but I you know I actually like I respect the outsourcing like the

phone calls that sort of thing because anytime like it sort of works professionally for me I think because if I ring up like an airline and try and change something, it's just that thing where when you're talking to someone

that English isn't their first language, they're going, you know, they've got a very simple lexicon. If I'm trying to talk them into going, no, but surely you can do this for me, and they sort of go, no, I don't understand what you're saying or whatever it is, and you go, okay, well, you get to keep all that money, I guess. You've done this well. They can frustrate you're saying or whatever it is. And you go, okay, well, you get to keep all that money, I guess. You've done this well. They can frustrate you into submission.

Yeah, yeah. I just go, I can't communicate this any better, so I give up. All right. I think that's quite an effective way of doing it. Well, if we're talking customer service, this is something that I saw recently in the news. We don't talk about the news much on this show, but this is something that genuinely tickled me.

The start of it, the genesis of this was there's a local fish and chip joint near our house that put their takeaway menu in our letterbox and it's your classic. It's $4 for a burger. It's a super cheap joint. And on the back of the menu there's a special deal that they've got going on where if you spend $50, you get a free can of soft drink.

Now, is that not one of the worst deals? It's a hell of a deal. A family pack is 19 bucks. So you're getting two family packs plus a little bit more and then you're getting a singular can of soft drink. You're getting two family packs. You need to buy another three burgers. Yeah.

So anyway, me and my girlfriend are obsessed with that. And then there was a story in the paper the other day that a pizza hut out in Mount Waverley had a deal going on where if you bought ten large pizzas, you got a free guinea pig. Because they went into cahoots with the local pet shop.

And I love it. If you're eating ten large pizzas, you cannot be trusted with a guinea pig. The clock's ticking on that guinea pig. I just want to know everything about this story. I want to know, was this... Because it's a great thing of when one store of a chain kind of goes rogue. Yeah, but I like the idea at the moment because Pizza Hut is going through

quite a lot of trouble with discounting their pizzas. So every pizza is like $5 or something at the moment because Pizza Hut is going through quite a lot of trouble with their discounting their pizza. So every pizza is like $5 or something at the moment. So all the franchises are hating Pizza Hut HQ because they're cutting out all their profit. They're all going broke and it must be like they're all teaming up together to take on Pizza Hut HQ. This is not fair. This is unfair working conditions. Meanwhile, one bloke's gone rogue and gone, you can get a free chicken, a free hamster if you buy pizza. It's like, oh, you've done all their hard work. Pizza Hut HQ are going to go, we don't want to listen.

You're the sort of people that are giving away rodents with our food. Then we don't take your opinion on board. But I just want to know, was this Pizza Hut are in trouble and they've gone into the pet shop and gone, guys, we're getting flogged out here. Is there anything that we can maybe work on together? Or have the pet shop come gone, guys, we're getting flogged out here. Is there anything that we can maybe work on together? Or have the pet shop come in and gone, look, we put a couple of extra zeros on the guinea pig form.

We've got heaps of them. If you maybe want to give some away. Well, perhaps the pet store was giving away 10 large pizzas with the guinea pig so they worked together. No, maybe not. I was just trying to do the math set but anytime you hear something like that where you know someone up in a head office

has had a brain aneurysm overseeing that it brings me a lot of joy like someone having to drive out there I like the image of a fat dude on a Friday night and you've walked into his place and he's just a big guy with all these pizza boxes and just all these guinea pigs

running around everywhere people going where are they from? They just come with a pizza. I don't know. But even if that was a legitimate offer, ten large pizzas and you're getting one guinea pig. Like the exchange rate on that is just... So your argument is you should get more guinea pigs.

Is that what you're saying? Less pizzas or more guinea pigs, yeah, is how it should stack out, I think. The connection's interesting. Yeah. Like of all the things on this I think. The connection's interesting. Yeah. Like of all the things on this planet Earth. It's weird algebra. I mean, free garlic bread, I get that.

It's the thought maybe, so ten large pizzas, that's then a lot of empty pizza boxes that you can then build a little habitat for your guinea pig. And you could feed the crust to the guinea pig as well. But that's a lot of crust. If that was Pizza Hut, of course, if it was Pizza Haven, the guinea pig would have been stuffed with cheese and inside by the crust. The guinea pig comes to you riding a streets V&M.

But I like the idea, you know when you're a child, you're learning all the time and maybe your first pizza is a Pizza Hut pizza. And at some stage in your life you're going out there getting a pizza and going, but where's the guinea pig? Like don't you get guinea pigs with all pizzas? First experience. I've got a – you know the habit of getting the four cents a litre off? Oh, yeah, yeah.

It's kind of – I try not to get into those habits because – It becomes very distracting for very little return. Very little return. Very little return. Very little return. And seriously, if you buy fuel on Tuesday instead of Friday, it's 16 cents a litre off. But for about six months I started, you know, collecting them. And it's just the hassle factor. Well, you know, at the supermarket they always say fly-bys,

and I say no because I've got it in my head that you need a bazillion points to buy like a toaster or something. A whippersnapper. I know people who do do it and they say, no, really, it adds up. Really? But that mentality. But then administratively I just know myself and I know I might start it and I won't be bothered.

Well, the other thing is if I get brought up on trumped-up anti-terrorism charges at some point, the federal police go into the flyby account and the front page of the paper has all my flyby purchases. You happen to buy some fertiliser at some point. No, but three dental flosses, do you know? It's not about the anti-terrorism, it's about your personal secret

ten pieces. I love the, you know when those stories happen, you know David Hicks always had that photo with the bazooka on his shoulder. Have you had him on the show? No, many times, yeah. Oh, you haven't?

No. I tell you why. No, we haven't had a terrorist on our show, Limo. Because, well, here's my David Hicks story. When he came back to Australia and he went to Yatla Prison in South Australia, Will and I got his dad, Terry, on our show. And we said, and one of the things we said, we said, Terry, have you got a different photo of David you can give to the press? Because that shot of the bazooka on his shoulder, have you got him playing with some kittens or something as a kid?

It's a terrible Tinder profile as well. Anyway, we rang Yatla Prison and we said, can we speak to David Hicks? And we said, you know, it's Will and Limo, Triple M, can we speak to David Hicks? And we said, you know, it's Will and Limo of Triple M, can we speak to David Hicks? And they said, well, no, you can't speak to him but the radios in all the prisons in the cell block where he is are all fixed so we can change the station to Triple

M and you can give him a shout out if you want. So they change the station to Triple M, so we go on air, we play that call on air. They've got the same deal in Guantanamo Bay, yeah. And then we say, and David Hicks, you know, shout out Will and Limo go on air, we play that call on air. They've got the same deal in Guantanamo Bay, yeah. Yeah, and then we say and David Hicks, you know, shout out Will and Limo, you know, we hope they're treating you well in Yatla and blah, blah, blah,

and then it was after that that we had Terry in and Terry Hicks says to us, David heard the shout out and wanted to say thanks. What if you just stitched him up and you're like, we've all heard on the news on the outside that you sung to the police like a canary and good on you for that.

Just really good. Is that on your permanent ASIO record now where it's like has dealt with terrorists before? Has dealt with terrorists. I don't think so. I wonder if... Have you ever, Rob, had like a really bad papped moment or a really bad photo they've used in the paper?

Well, I've been papped one day but not papped in the – we were up for the Sydney Olympics and we had a film coming out at the time and, you know, it was the Olympics. I mean, you know, and we went to lunch at Otto. It was on one of those finger wharfs there. Yeah. And there was a small, like, indoor-outdoor plant box about two-thirds of the way down the pier.

Yeah. And Jane and I had a lovely lunch lunch finished walked out out and strolled along and a guy with a telephoto lens jumped up took the photo and normally you think of the right thing to say on the way after you know that night and he took the photo i boy, you're having a bad day. It's the Olympics, like everything to drink in the world is in town. And you're hidden behind a plant for, you know, an hour. And, you know, staked out auto. And the best you can get is us.

Carl Lewis is staying up the front. Yeah, yeah. Michael Jordan, Carl Lewis and Tiger Woods are having a coffee. They went out the back door. line. Yeah, yeah. Michael Jordan, Carl Lewis and Tiger Woods having a coffee. They went out the back door. Yeah. Oh, wow. Rob, we were talking a little bit before about Utopia. Now, of course, Frontline, which is another show that you did, you wrote and were in, I actually studied that,

and I'm sure you've heard this a lot, I studied that in English at school in Year 12 and I had to write an essay about it which i got a c minus four i've got it here so if you could get in touch with my teacher and get that grade bumped up that'd be great it's funny they i read the uh when that came about we had i think i mean we had a lot to do with making the tv show but nothing to do with the teacher materials that went with it so it was an official part of the curriculum. Of various curriculum.

Yeah, right. Curriculum. And I read some of the teacher materials and it was really good. Yeah, right. Like you go, oh, this is how they do it. The teachers don't just teach from that. I thought you meant, oh, this is what our show was on about. A little.

A little. Oh, there was that too. It was a second level. Oh, no, we meant that. We meant that. I was kind of hoping you were going to say that it was all wrong. No, no, from memory, and I'm not sure whether there were various teacher materials,

the bits that I read was, you know, it always ended up in a very schooly way. Name the areas where moral ambiguity plays a role. I'll lose interest at that point. But the backdrop, the framing of the scenes and what this scene represents, I go, that's, you know, you've stripped some of the humour out of it but it's a pretty accurate representation of what underpinned it. Because it's a bit of a cliche but when I'd study films and media studies as well

and we'd have to get really in depth and, you know, the teachers would always be going, oh, you know, they've put this here to set up this and to sort of show this. And, you know, when you're that age and especially if you're a bit of a lazy student, you go, no, they didn't. They're not thinking that deeply. And it's been my greatest dream to meet a director of a film that we had to study. Yes.

And just go, is that? And have them go, no, it's just in there because it looks good. Well, it's funny. There's a Woody Allen film. I can't remember the name of the film. Is it Annie Hall? Yeah. He's standing behind in a queue and someone's saying Marshall McClure

and whoever missed that and he goes, no, he didn't. And he grabs Marshall McClure and whoever missed that and he goes, what did you mean by that? He goes, I didn't mean that. See? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a great interview with Noel Gallagher as well What did you mean by that? He goes, I didn't mean that. See? There's a great interview with Noel Gallagher as well after Oasis had hit it big after their second album, What's the Story, Morning Glory,

and an interviewer was getting really bogged down in trying to get the meanings of different songs on the album and eventually he'd had enough and he said, look, they don't mean anything. Seriously. He goes, champagne supernova. I have no idea what that is. They're two words that sound good together.

He goes, stop trying to break your brain working at the meeting. You know on Rockwiz they say, what was the first concert you ever went to? Mine was Status Quo. Oh, right, yeah. Now, I was out of date. Were they doing the Cole song back then? Well, isn't it interesting? After all this time. Oh,, I was out of date. Were they doing the Cole song back then? Well, isn't it interesting?

After all this time. Oh, so I'm out of fashion now. The funny thing is when they originally came out here, the full original contingent with Ella Lancaster et al, they were interviewed by Molly and they said what was a big hit was Down, Down. Prices are down. Brackets, prices are down.

This is the original version. And, Molly, I'd love to get the clip of it because I'm sure it was some of the boys from Spinal Tap must have seen it and saw this interview because they had the long hair. It was status quo. It was a dun-dun-dun and everything had those three bars. Yeah, yeah. And they go, so what's the story behind it? Because we saw it and I think they said something like it's down, down

and then to make it rhyme we went deeper and down. What's deeper than down? It's deeper and... It rhymes. And it was like... The underpinnings of the Down, Down, Deeper and Down song ran out at Down, Down. It is a... Alice Cooper's song has a song, School's Out.

Okay. And it says... And there's a line in the song that says, School's out for summer, school's out forever, I think. And then the next line is, and I can't even think of a word that rhymes, is the line in the song. Oh, really? And the other line in the song is, I can't even think of a word that rhymes.

And he says it really quickly to fit it into the right number of beats. Well, that always fascinates me with songs where it's like that thing of, you know, people are pouring their heart into the art of music or whatever, but then it's like you've got to get this message across and this, but just make sure that last word rhymes with the last word of the verse. What a weird way of getting something right. I don't like hearing all that stuff about musicians talking about

where songs came from and stuff, like you're saying with, like Triple J will do it when they have the album of the week. Whenever they play a track from it, they have the artist before it going oh here's where this came about and it's like there was a i think i talked about this recently on the show the jack white album he's like oh yeah it's just there's a brand of licorice that i saw when i was overseas and i thought oh that's a cool name you go oh man what a bummer i know that's like what i found out you know uh uh kurt cobain was at his house one night with his girlfriend and they were spray painting on the wall in their house

and she had a deodorant called Teen Spirit and she sprayed it on him and then she wrote on the wall, Kurt smells like Teen Spirit. Yeah. So that's where smells like Teen Spirit comes from. Everyone attaches clearly a much deeper meaning to it, but it was really literal because he actually did smell like Tix. I've got a great story about the naming of the Beatles album Abbey Road. The funny thing is, though, that it does amuse me that we take singing,

people who sing, so seriously, like they're taking on the Taliban or something. And also in sport. It's so serious. Like they're taking on the Taliban or something. Yeah, yeah. And also in sport, that's one of my great amusements, is that literally warriors, you know, it is brutal, brutal sports and they get off and their warrior dance is to sing a song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right.

And they're very good at sport and shouldn't be stretched into other areas. No need to be a triple threat, boys. Yeah, yeah. But that whole singing, you know, the idea of singing, like any weird idea, if you take a step back or if you say, you know, if the aliens landed tomorrow and then you go, and then they say, what's that? And you go, that's singing.

You're like, why is your voice like that? Why have you all of a sudden turned from this to this why is that why do people do that you're so big and tough and your way of celebrating is to sing especially the afl songs where they're all so kind of old-timey and that's right yeah oh yeah and you always said that on twitter once i said oh such and such team has got banjo in it. How can you support a team where the team song's got banjo? And someone said, they've all got it. Just briefly, Rob, going back to Frontline being part of the syllabus and whatever, I find it interesting that thing of like,

so there must be like so many people out there that sort of review the show and were massive fans of the show, but then there's probably two years of people, a tiny little generation that really can't stand that show because they've had to study it. Yeah. Oh, I say to people, I go, I had to study you at school. It was my apologies. Yeah, yeah.

It wasn't my intention to convert it for evil. Yeah. But that said, you know, when I did English and all those sort of subjects, wow, they picked boring text for us. That's what I remember about it. It was like, oh, man, this is a real win that we're getting to do something. I mean, it does dilute it, having to do it a lot, but at least the first couple of times you're watching it,

you're having fun. It was like when they're saying, you know, we're studying the songs of Paul Kelly, and people go, oh, why? And you're going, well, why not? Yeah. I find it immensely interesting. It makes a lot more sense.

Damien Fleming, who we know, he has got his son into Supercoach, and he said for two reasons. One, they can do it together. But he said, mathematically, he said the maths is brilliant for an eight-year-old. So he's got to work out a... He's got a salary cap.

He's got to budget his players to fit within the salary cap. So he said Supercoach is actually an awesome teaching tool. Oh, get that on the syllabus. Yeah, absolutely. You know what? Bookmaking as well. There's a lot of numbers there.

Get that involved. I go to the TAB with my boy, but I mean it's just Supercoach. Just very quickly as a sidebar, the teacher who I had in Year 11 who showed us Frontline, his name was Mr Bourbon, teacher who I had in year 11 who showed us Frontline, his name was Mr Bourbon, that my mate was convinced that it was like

a fake name to try and make him sound cool to the kids. Mr Bourbon and Beefsteak. Which I love, yeah. Here he is, Mr Machine Gun. G'day students, I'm not like the other teachers. Wow, what's he got to say? Here's Mr Lego.

He used to be at primary school. Well, I think that's just about all the time we have for the Little Dum Dum Club this week. Limo and Rob, thank you very much for joining us. Thank you. It's a pleasure. Utopia, Wednesdays, 8.30 on ABC. And it's also all on iView.

Well, iView, IQ, DVR. And there's a repeat on Sunday nights, isn DVR and there's a repeat on Sunday nights there is a repeat on Sunday nights and it is coming out available in DVD at ABC shops once episode 8 has wrapped as well

that's what I was about to say because we do have a lot of international listeners of this show so anyone in that position it's well worth checking out very funny show and also lots of friends of the show, so anyone in that position, it's well worth checking out. Very funny show and also lots of friends of the show. Exactly, that's the great thing. Luke McGregor, as well as yourself. Yes, Kitty Flanagan, have you had Kitty? No. He's never been on. Dave O'Neill

was in an episode. Dave O'Neill, Dave Lawson, CJ Fortuna was in an episode. Good, good body of comedians. Scott Cam did something for us. He renovated. Well, guys, thanks very much for listening,

and we'll see you next time. See you, mates.