The Little Dum Dum Club with Tommy & Karl - 249 - Santo Cilauro & Sam Pang

Episode Date: July 13, 2015

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Hey mates, not long at all now until our big live 250th episode spectacular. In fact, Carl, it's just a mere matter of days, isn't it? Yeah, if you're hearing this straight away, it's on this Saturday, which is July the 18th. It's at 8 o'clock at The Joint, at 8 o'clock, and like you said, 250th episode. It is going to be, if you've seen any of our live shows before, especially recently, you know it's going to be a big old dumb party. Yeah, it to be heaps of fun we're looking forward to that so yeah still i mean it's getting pretty full but uh if you can don't sleep on it little dumdum club.com right now for tickets heaps of awesome stuff we've got planned for it's going to be very funny yeah also

if you're in other parts of the country uh perth we're over there october the 18th doing one of our big dumdum palooza shows Like we did last year With some special guests That we're bringing over with us Us doing our stand-up shows It's going to be heaps of fun So come out to that

Adelaide You've got one of them Coming at you as well November 18th 17th November 17th On a Tuesday night It's at the Rhino Room

And again Three hour show One hour stand-up of Tommy One hour stand-up of mine, one-hour of what you actually want, the podcast. And guests booked in for both of those, and the line-ups are awesome. We got really lucky with who's around and who can do it. They're going to be heaps of fun.

So guys, don't sleep on it. LittleDumbDumbClub.com for all those tickets, and we'll see you out there. Oh, and hey, we're going to have t-shirts at the show, so bring your little purses, bring your little fanny packs, bring your little hidden wallets, and buy some sweet merch. Oh, you saying fanny pack has just reminded me of something that I have to tell you. Yes? Oh, we'd better get to the episode. Hey, mates.

Welcome once again into the Little Dumb Dumb Club for another week. Thank you very much for joining us. My name is Tommy Dasolo. Sitting next to me, the other half of the program, Carl Chandler. G'day, Dickhead. Hey, I've seen something today that I would like your opinion on. I'd like to know if this is weird or if it's just me. I was in my local milk bar buying some stuff

and on the counter next to the cash register, they've got a little tip jar. What do you think of that? I find that very odd for a business to just have like a milk, like a guy who's just selling things to have a tip jar set up. Is that a legitimate thing or am I weird? I think you find it weird because you definitely don't have the money to be tipping anyone.

You don't even have the money to be buying the milk to start with. Yeah, exactly. Well, mum was with me, so yeah. So a tip generally is like this is exceptional service. You've gone above and beyond. I want to show my appreciation. What's a milk bar doing to make you go – like you walk up with a packet of snakes alive and he's like, that's two bucks, thanks.

And you're like, mate, you handled that with aplomb. Thanks for making the milk face around the right way in the fridge so I could see the expiry date. Here's a little something for yourself. Thanks for putting the most recent ones up the front so then I get stung with a thing of milk that's going to expire in two days. Thanks for putting the zoo magazines down low enough that I can sort of thumb through that.

I didn't know that was an option, though, to just do that because it's basically what he's doing is it's just kind of a very elaborate busking act. You know what I mean? He's just like selling his stuff. But it's given me an idea. You know, we've got this live podcast coming up Saturday, this Saturday, July the 18th.

I didn't know this was going to come back to you asking for money. What if we just put a little hat up the front of the stage? You know, people are already paying. To be fair, yeah, we're already charging people to come in and then we're double dipping. Is that the new plan? But that's what the milk bar's doing. You are already paying to be fair yeah we're already charging people to come in and then we're double dipping is that the new but that's what the milk bar is doing all right paying for the service all right if there's a zinger that you particularly like you're paying me a beauty with a particularly good gag you're gonna chuck a two dollar coin

in there you are paying for a product and then you're asking for a bit of service money whereas we're providing a service and then we want service money as well yeah sure all right okay well let's put let's put a couple of hats all around the room. Let's put one out the front of the toilet. Let's put one at the stage. Exit by donation as well. So we're getting credit for people using the toilet. Sure, okay.

People are like, wow, you guys gave me the option to do this. I appreciate it. What I got out of your story is you desperately want money. So I'm just looking for reasons now for them to give it. Can't you get that about every fibre of my being? Well, today on the show, first of all, returning guests uh it's been a while since he's been on here you know him from eurovision and from have you been paying attention please welcome back into the little dum-dum club sam pang thank you tommy carl great to be back i did take a while to be invited back but it's great to

finally be here to be fair the only the times i've brought up with you to come back to the podcast, you said, direct quote, why would I? I've already done it. Yeah, as in there was nothing else to talk about. There's not like a, you know. Oh, now you've found something. You've done something in between. No, no, no. I just brought someone whose stories you may not have heard.

So therefore, you know, it'll reflect better on me. The person you brought with you, of course, you know him from the late show, from Have You Been Paying Attention. Please welcome me to Little Dumb Dumb Club for the first time, Santo Chilaro. Thank you. Thank you very much. The good thing, I'm surprised he's got some stories

because I think you may have overestimated me just a little bit. No, that's fine. I know this is the great thing. Well, thanks for being part of bringing a podcast friend to podcast day today, which is – That's nice. He couldn't come along with it. Is that an official day?

I think you're overestimating your milk bar guy. The milk bar guy clearly wants to be on television. I think that he's set up the tip jar there because I reckon he's got a crowbar sitting underneath his little desk. He's waiting for someone who looks a little bit like you to actually just go, he's not looking, I'm going to go for this And the guy's going Great

Bang And then Channel 9 News that night This man showed great When a crook came in and started taking his money This guy got more than he bargained for I suspect he wants to be on television In black and white

You know the area well You were just saying as you came in This is where you grew up or where you went to school. Well, I was having this discussion with Sam. I don't know whether this is my old stamping ground or my old stomping ground. I vote stomping. I think it's stomping.

I'm with Tommy. Because I did used to stomp around. I actually physically stomped. It's like chomping and champing a bit. I mean, which one is it? I think it's champing. But I would say that this is my old stamping ground. No, no. Yeah, stamping ground. I went to school just around the corner. It's closeding a bit. I mean, which one is it? I think it's champing. But this is – I would say that this is my old stamping ground. No, no.

Yeah, stamping ground. Yeah. I went to school just around the corner. It's closed down now. Most of the Christian brothers are about five years off parole. So good luck to them when they get out here. What was the name of the school? St. Thomas' Clifton Hill Christian Brothers.

And so it was a great school. I enjoyed it. We had a handball court. That was our – that was entertainment at the school. Yeah, handball. Is handball still a thing? Like handball was definitely, you know, the big sport when I was great school. I enjoyed it. We had a handball court. That was entertainment at the school. Yeah, handball. Is handball still a thing? Like handball was definitely the big sport when I was at school. Is it still a thing?

Really? Is it the big thing? Yeah. But handball is different. This is Marabara. I grew up in Marabara. If you watch like – if anyone watches Euro news, Euro sports, handball is a different game.

It's like that ball – it's like indoor soccer but with hands. Yeah. The handball we're talking about, Euro sports, handball is a different game. It's like that ball. It's like indoor soccer but with hands. The handball we're talking about, of course, is on a handball court where you graze your knuckles on the sides. It's like a very poverty version of squash. Exactly. You just use your fists. And our school was really good at it around the corner. It's an excellent – I bet you it's still there, that handball court.

It's still a beauty. But when you say your school was really good at it, how good can you be at handball though? Are you great at football as well? If it's the only sport you can play, I reckon you're pretty good at it. I've just realised what it is now. You know that one where you hit against the wall? Yeah.

We used to call it – it was called handball downball. Oh, yeah, downball. Of course. That's what it's called. That's what I called it as well. So, yeah. But on the court that we played on, there was no downball. That was just like for sissies.

Right. Yeah. We're talking about the one where you're hitting it against a wall? Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. So, yeah. Okay. But on the court that we played on, there was no down ball. That was just like for sissies. Right. Yeah. We're talking about the one where you're hitting it against a wall. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a little black.

Almost like a squash ball. If you really played it properly, it's a black, hard black rubber ball. A bit bigger than a squash. Were you the guy upholding the rules of down ball? Hang on. Can we check? Can we put the down ball through the little hoop and see if that's a regulation?

I was on the tall chair and sort of have a go at it. Is this what you're after, Tommy, when you invited me back? Yeah, this is the kind of gold we're after. I'm actually hosting a charity day for my old primary school, which is just around the corner. St John's here on Queens Parade. Wait, a charity day for the school that closed down? No, no.

A little bit late. This might be a Nigerian scam. He's taking a tip jar, so don't worry, it's not going to be fine. There you go. Gives us a tip every time you get one in in Downball. Why do you say yes to these things? Well, it's hard to say no. But it was the primary school.

Because you used to go to primary school with the nuns and then when you got to a certain age, then they separated the boys and the girls. The boys went across the road. Oh, really? I'm old enough to have remembered the moonwalks. I remember when I was in about grade three or something like that, the nuns wouldn't let us watch the moonwalk because they thought…

Hang on, Michael Jackson's the moonwalk, not the walk on the moon. Is that what you're saying? Neil Armstrong. I was at school when Neil Armstrong walked on the moon. Is that what you're saying? Neil Armstrong. I was at school when Neil Armstrong walked on the moon. We went later because the nuns wouldn't let us watch it. I'll never forget. I got home that day because we lived in Collingwood. Our school was here in Clifton Hill.

My dad was home from work. Never, never happens. And I'm going, what's going on? And he goes, man just walked on the moon. And I'll never forget my grandmother goes, no, he didn't. It's just Italian, you know, this Italian thing. No, it's all fake. They faked it up. And I remember my dad turning around grandmother goes, no, he didn't. It's just Italian, you know, this Italian thing. No, it's all fake. They faked it up.

And I remember my dad turning around and saying, great, you believe the wrestling is real but the moonwalk is fake. That's great. Your nan's the original truther. That's great. What does she think about 9-11? Yeah. Oh, fake.

What's her opinion on jet fuel melting steel beams? So the nuns wouldn't let you watch man walking on the moon? No. For what reason? Because they thought it was like the work – they thought it was almost sacrilegious. It was almost like Galileo with the telescope. Yeah, nah, we don't mess with what God invented the earth and I don't know about this moon thing.

Is it a little bit like Ayers Rock or Uluru where now we realise you're not allowed to – you shouldn't be walking on it for respect's sake and whatever is that the moon are we are we offending someone by walking on the moon no no those nuns were just nuts they

wouldn't let us do anything they were terrible that is a good theory we one day find out when we make contact with other life that it's just hella racist

just be up there whacking flags in it yeah yeah playing golf golf off yeah is that was this the demographic you're after though?

The moonwalk anecdotes? The conspiracy nuts We're not the Colbert Report, alright? Alright There's a reason why we're in this set and not like a proper one Because we talk about down ball and walking on the moon I love it We've talked about this very briefly

We film these podcasts and they go out in Melbourne on Channel 31 On Saturday evening at 10pm. So I feel like that's prime conspiracy nut demographic. They're sitting up at 10pm watching Channel 31, surely. We have mentioned this, but we're a sweet lead-in to New Country Hour on Channel 31. So after this, if you don't switch over quick enough, there is some primo boot-scooting going on.

Wait a minute. What was the old one like? The New Country Hour. Well, that was the old one like? The new country. Well, that was on before. So, nine o'clock. Hey, speaking of lead-ins, can I tell you that... Do you remember the last time I was on this? We did talk about ADBC, which was a show that I...

I want to tell you this because... It's been rebooted? It's been rebooted. The nuns would not let us watch that show. The nuns were busy. They didn't let a lot of people watch it. The nuns were like everyone else at the time. No, ADBC has been rebooted.

Well, it was rebooted like recently in the last six months and it was in bite-sized form at 4.55 a.m. as a lead-in. You talk about lead-ins to the Korean news at five, right? Right. Which was exciting. You know, people, Ed Cavill pointed it out. He saw it and was,

I couldn't imagine how excited he was. Well, he was up watching that. Because he does Breakfast Radio. He's, you know, and so it's 4.55 till five. And he's watching

the Korean news for something to talk about on Brisbane FM radio. Korean news had a bit of a bump, by the way. And how long was, in bite size? In bite size form,

4.55 till five, five minute. And that was highlights of the whole season. That was the whole thing. But recently, it was on. Instead of like playing when they used to put Roadrunner in between shows, it's now ADBC.

Well, I don't know if it's still the case. I don't know how well it, you know, I don't know how well it was received. It might not be on anymore. But recently, because of,

Tommy mentioned Eurovision, Eurovision was shown live here in Australia because Australia were in it, so you had to vote. So it was on from 5 till 7. So in my mind, I had ADBC going on from 4.55 till 5 as a lead-in to Eurovision. Mate, early morning. Yeah. I own on SBS.

You're the new aggro. It's always been the dream. Pango's cartoon connection. Put some carpet on your face and it doesn't really buy in. I'll do anything, Tommy. Don't put it past me. Wow. Early morning SBS, you've got sewn up.

Nice. All mine. Lance, you know, prime real estate. Try and get Jonathan Coleman across to sell some stuff. Maybe he's too busy. Oh, I like that. You start poaching talent from other morning shows. I'd love to see infomercials on SBS.

That would be some interesting products there. You'd know better than us. That station's changed a lot, eh? Well, since my day, yeah. I remember it actually starting, yeah. Oh, really? Yeah, I remember. George Deneakin and stuff, yeah.

The first ever broadcast. 1980, I think it was, yeah. Wow. What do the nuns think about that? The nuns were long gone by 1980, by the way. Because Santa killed them. Because you're a soccer nut. I used to, I mean, I grew up,

I've mentioned this once or twice on the podcast before, I grew up in a little town called Meriburra, which is two hours from Melbourne, two and a half hours. And I was a soccer tragic, but we didn't get SBS up there for the longest time. We didn't get anything. We had BCV8, we had BTV6, and we had ABC, or Channel 2.

What were those? Oh, they're like the regional versions of 7 and 9 and stuff. But they were actually their own. They took a lot of stuff, but they also produced their own stuff. Yeah, they cherry-picked stuff from all the channels. So a lot of times they would just have, like we'd have those two channels, six and eight, but they would both have the A-team on it, the same team. So there was actually no option because they would just pick whatever they

wanted, which happened to be the same. You had A-team on two channels at the same time? Yeah. That is a dream. One would be like one minute ahead and you'd go, well, which one should we watch? Spoilers. So, yeah, we used to get tapes of SBS sent up.

Like it would be like a bit of a Christmas in July thing where someone from Melbourne, from the big smoke, would come to Meribah and bring us these VHS tapes of Genoa versus Sampdoria. You'd be like, oh, wow. Sunday morning shows. 10.30 on a Sunday morning was the best hour of television ever. An hour of Italian highlights.

Yeah, wow. You there, boy, what day is it today? An hour of Italian highlights. Yeah, wow. You there, boy, what day is it today? Why, it's SBS tape day, sir. It was genuinely great. I'd go round to my friend's house and we'd all sit around and watch the most boring game. Because Serie A used to be the biggest league back then, but it's a very slow-paced game.

How did you watch your wrestling? I did it in this style I didn't You didn't actually? No I wasn't a wrestling fan So channel 6 and 8 didn't have wrestling? No

You know what we'd have as special treat Was if you got up really early And you went to my friend's house That lived on a hill You could slightly pick up channel 10 cartoons At 6am on a Saturday morning But badly Yeah

So through static You could see an episode of Scooby-Doo you hadn't seen before. Yeah. Yeah. Bit like Channel 31. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was the... And also the comedy company used to be on...

We'd go to the same guy's house and you could vaguely pick it up and I'd come to school on a Monday morning and tell everyone what Kylie Mole had been up to because BCVA wouldn't show it until Thursday night. So I was like, people would gather around and go, what did Conor Fruiterer say this week? He said a couple of days. Oh wow, and she

goes, she goes, she goes, she goes. It's like a very primitive version of people going to like Bali and coming back with bootleg DVD, stuff that hasn't come out yet. Like, I'll do it for you. I'll reenact it. I was the pirate bay of my time. Santa, I wanted to ask you about something and you might –

this is just – I was looking up stuff yesterday, old Late Show clips on YouTube and one that I found that I'd never seen before because Late Show is like just a little bit before my time. So one thing that's cool about, you know, having guys from Working Dog on is it sort of makes me go, I'm like, I should just be across it anyway. I was a massive fan, by the way. That was in Mirabar.

That was the biggest thing. Because you could watch it on Channel 2. Yeah, yeah. We could actually watch it. And now you're on the Channel, the 10pm Saturday night time slot. Yeah. Wow. Someone in Mirabar is, yeah, Yeah no they're still not watching the show

Who's there in a small country town Gathering on a hill So they can watch us through stage Which when they can just get the podcast off the internet Like weeks earlier I watched the Alfonso Capricciosa sketch For those of you who are listening to this on podcast This is a look that I give when I go, okay.

No, we heard it. You can't remember it much. I have a bit of – unfortunately, I'm not Tony Martin. Tony Martin is Mr. Archive, Mr. Remembers Everything. I'm Mr. Very Much. Yeah, that rings a bell. And if it's an Italian kind of character, then that sounds like me. Yeah, yeah.

I had questions like that. I talked to mick once about stuff from the late show and i was like oh then when this happened he's like we made a lot of stuff back then we didn't have any time to remember what we did can i just and there's a complicating thing with mick mick didn't often remember at the time i would get i would get phone calls on a tuesday after the saturday mate, come and get me. I'm somewhere. I'm somewhere. There's a building next to me.

Well, how things change. Yeah, how things change. Exactly. Alfonso Capriccioso. Well, what I wanted to ask you, and if you don't want to answer this, we can take it out. I'll answer anything. I was looking at it and so the character is kind of a bit of a take off

of the kind of walks out of work kind of thing, this guy who's like started the big ethnic comedy movement. And there's a bit in it where it's done as like a kind of a behind the scenes thing. And there's a scene in it where… No, I do remember what you're talking about, yes. Yeah, his old cast mates come and confront him about stealing their gear and then kicking them out of the group.

Now, when I looked at this on YouTube, one of the comments said something about how that was based on, that bit was based on a thing that happened on A Current Affair around that time with Nick Giannopoulos. I think that first of all, it was based on, everything that we kind of do is sort of, is sparked off by something that we see somewhere. There was something on A Current Affair on someone who used to be in Wogs Out of Work. She didn't get a – I don't know. She hadn't worked for years.

Oh, yes. Look, it's such a long time ago. In fact, I don't even remember the incident at all. It just felt funny that it was on A Current Affair. Well, that was the thing. So someone mentioned that that was based on a thing that had happened at the time. So then I tried to Google it and I thought, surely this sounds like a current affair doing a profile on Geonopolis. And the cameras just happened to catch these people busting him and going, mate, you've ripped us off.

And he's like, can you not put that in the piece? And they're like, yeah, no worries. And they just put it straight to him. Look, you know what? I don't know whether that happened or not. All I know is that it made me laugh that that ended up on Current Affair. So therefore I thought, well, how funny is it to do something that way? So I remember getting phone calls the very next day from people going,

I think, how the hell did you know my number? And there were people going, you know, I was never part of that. You know, I wasn't, I didn't get involved in that. And the guy who was responsible was a real dickhead. And I'm sitting there going, I don't know what you're talking about. It's the same as when we did Frontline. There was all these people from current affairs shows in Perth going, oh mate,

who told you about that story because that's what happened. And I'm going, mate, it's not based on that. It's basically you watch stuff on TV and then you join Dots. It's like what we all do. Like ADBC. It's very similar. Very similar. I can't believe, by the way, how much A Current Affair you watch.

Because, you know, we did a podcast, Carl. Yes. Santo Sam and Ed did a podcast kind of after the football show. A year when we didn't do anything. But we did a kind of 26 weeks or something where we'd go in and just do it. And you would bring in clips from a current affair where and they were just so dodgy where they they'd you know this was a story but they used footage from another story and put it together which is that that's why you brought it

in to highlight it you're going but i'm thinking why are you watching these in the first place so yeah so you don't have to watch current affair shows because they're just a longer version of the promo so and once you see a promo that you go, oh, I want to watch the truck driving Romeo, you want to sit there and watch that. Is this the world's worst neighbour? I'm going, didn't I see that a week and a half ago, but I'll watch it again.

I found a friend of mine the other day, found out a long kept secret of his. He, his name's Michael Williams. He's a comedian. He is one of the guys that they, when they did a fat story on Current Affair, they did the old cut the head off and just used a guy walking down the street with the belly. And he found out that was him because his friend saw,

I recognise that shirt. That's Michael. Hey, Michael. Everyone's worst nightmare.. Everyone's worst nightmare. Yeah. Literally everyone's worst nightmare. But look, in answer to your question, Tommy, a lot of the stuff that we did back in the late show,

stuff we do now, is always sparked off by something. I think we started writing Frontline because we saw a current affair special about a guy whose wife or his family had been taken by a shark or something and the press went crazy on it and we just thought, because I think Frontline was going to be based in a radio station, it was behind the scenes in a radio station because we were working at Triple M at the time and we thought, no, actually maybe behind the scenes in a current affair show might actually be funnier. Well, I also want to say this, Sando,

that I feel like our podcast has finally reached some form of legitimacy. It's a grown-up podcast as of today because you are officially the first guest that we've had to do a release form for. So I feel like this is a proper podcast now. We're finally talking to someone with legitimacy. I've been signing those things for years.

I still don't know what they are. I just get told, you've got to sign a release form before you do. Of course, I'll have to do that. This is because of his lawyer background, by the way, which some people don't know that he was a lawyer and Tommy Gleisner was a lawyer. They call me the handballing lawyer. That's what they call me.

And Ed Cavill and I always say, what about that law firm that the world has missed out on because of some little ridiculous comedy career? Gleister and Chilaro lawyers. Attorneys at law. This is how much I knew about

release forms. I was like, okay, so I need to sign what? And it's like, you don't need to sign anything. I'm not releasing my own podcast. I was like, okay, so I need to sign what? And it's like, you don't need to sign anything. I'm not releasing my own podcast. I appreciate you bringing this up for the need for content, but what you've basically done is just let every previous guest know that they can now sue us

for releasing their line. No of our previous guests ever listened to our podcast. Don't worry about that. No, so that's good, finally. There's a precedent being set. If you want to be someone from. No, so that's good. Finally. Yeah, yeah. There's a precedent being set so if you want to be someone from now on, get that release for me and I will sign it for you.

We should take a photo at the end of the four of us just over the release form. The official signing ceremony. Yes. Yeah, and then we get someone to do a painting of that photo and that's the image that we release for the podcast. And we'll hold up the Dum Dum Club t-shirt next to us. Yeah, that's exciting.

Photo of today's paper for validity of the date. Yeah. We've been going a while now and we've got, well, again, we mention this a lot

on the show. We don't call them fans. We call them people who are aware of our show because they listen. They don't particularly tell us that they love the show. They show that love

in a form of abuse and prank phone calls and horrible insults sent to us via Facebook and Twitter. But they are aware of us and that's the nicest thing we can say about them. But they do tolerate the show. Yes. They tolerate it. As long as they tolerate it that's okay. This is the thing. We look at the numbers and there's a lot of them out there

and the numbers are getting more all the time. More people come into the show. It's great. It'd just be nice if one of them could seem like they like us in any way. The numbers go up and I go, cool, maybe these people would be nice to us. What's your feeling about how they just hate listening? It feels like they've got their arm behind their back being forced to listen to a podcast

in some way and they're expressing that dissatisfaction at us. Are we being used in actual torture, do you think? Are we like the new waterboarding where people just get strapped down and forced to listen to hours of this? We've been renamed in the US as Guantanamo FM. So, yeah. So, this is my latest, and sometimes you run into these people on the street, and I'm sure

you guys have had plenty of experiences like this, probably more positive than us. But I ran into someone the other day. I was on the tram, and I noticed that this girl was sort of looking at me and I'm like, okay, right. Well, it could be just girls looking at the Chan man. You know, that sort of happens all the time. So it could be just that. Or what actually happened.

Let's just start if there's another theory. I got off the tram and this girl sort of waited for me to walk past and said, little dum-dum club? And I'm like, yes. She goes, are you Carl? I went, yeah. She goes, oh, right, great. You know, I listen all the time, you know.

You know, great. I've been listening for six months or whatever. I've listened to all of them, you know, all these sort of words. Sounds like she's confessing to stuff at AA. I've been listening for six months now. But I like it to all of them, you know, all these sort of words that you're saying. Sounds like she's confessing to stuff at AA. I've been listening for six months now. But I like it. It always comes out like this.

It always comes out like, I've been listening for a long time and it's like, you haven't said that you like it yet but you've just, you've been present.

Is that all you're waiting for? Yes. So this conversation gets on and she goes, yeah, I listen every week and when one comes out I'm sort of really,

you know, waiting to see what's going to happen and what guests you have and I'm like, oh great, she's a real fan. So I was like, yeah, I listen every week. And when one comes out, I'm sort of really waiting to see what's going to happen and what guests you have. And I'm like, oh, great, she's a real fan. So I was like, okay, so, well, tomorrow we've got this one on and these guests are going to be on. And she's like, okay. And I'm like, oh, and it's a really good one.

And the week after that, this is going to happen. Tommy's going away to Tokyo and all these things are happening. She goes, yeah, yeah, right, right. Anyway, I'm a bit busy. I'm just going to go over there now. And then she walks over like honestly five meters and i realize we're just waiting for the same tram like she hasn't gone to do anything she's doing the exact same thing that that i'm doing we could be sitting here and talking more about the podcast and she's just decided to wait there she gets on a different

part of the tram and just sort of sits there and makes sure I'm not going to come up and talk to her again about my podcast. That's nuts. Sam is very important. You know what I mean? You've got to cherish it. It's true what they say, never meet your heroes.

Turns out they're really boring and a little bit obsessed with what they do. What about how that is – I love how that turned quickly from she listens to the podcast, you're Carl, to by the end of it, you were kind of pitching the podcast. and get a little bit obsessed with what they do. What about how that is – I love how that turned quickly from she listens to the podcast, you're Carl, to by the end of it you were kind of pitching the podcast. Yeah, I felt horrible. I felt like some sort of Mormon going door to door going,

oh, have you heard about this radio show that's not on radio? It'll change your life. But something happens in the middle of that conversation where you decide, well, already I've done the majority of the talking so therefore I'm the… Yes. I need to keep talking because she's actually… It's too late to reproportion the conversation. It's not like, oh, so what else have you been up to?

It's like, this is the only thing we have between us, so I'll keep giving you the information. So therefore, to be fair to you, in the end, she must have said also he dominated that conversation so much that it's not right for me to now re-dominate. I've got a seventh of it. So therefore all I can do now is I've got to say I've got to go sit over there and wait for the tram. I felt like she got home and then went to someone, oh, God, this guy from a podcast on the tram today.

I just went near him. He started going, oh, I guess he's on next week. And this is what happens the week after. What do you think? If she's listening now. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking about. Is she feeling good? How's she feeling?

Is she feeling, oh, I shouldn't have done that? Well, she should feel good because she came out of that as the winner, by the way. Yes. She walked. She had things to do. Yeah. You're there desperately doing coming ups and on the show next week. I'm out the front of a souvlaki shop just going,

oh, not for the first time, why do I do a podcast? But was it the same tram that you were waiting to catch? Yes. So what happened when you got on the tram? She just got on a different carriage. A different carriage. Yeah. There was only two carriages on the tram.

I'll go to another podcast. This is why I don't catch public transport anymore. Oh, it's the best. It's the only reason I have any content for this podcast. She also did say, because there is a bit of a running thing with the show. It's where all our fans hang out. Yeah, yeah. I live on Riversdale Road in Hawthorne.

And I've got a thing where I don't know why people just yell at me. I tend to walk up and down Riversdale Road. And I'll only walk for two blocks and yet someone will know me and just scream at me and I'm like hey okay this is like the the tour of the stars podcast style in Melbourne I just get screamed at so that was the other thing she said to me she got we were actually on Swan Street which turns into Riversdale Road and she goes oh it's a shame we were only two three four blocks away from Riversdale Road I could have been screaming at you out of the tram at you and I was like oh

we're actually getting on the same tram together. She's like, yeah. Not anymore. No. Booking an Uber right now. Yeah. And so you're weird that she walked away but it sounds like what you've described as your part of the conversation. You're treading water. You're floundering. You're just desperately.

Yeah. So she's done the right thing. Like you must have had a degree of relief that you're kind of off the hook. Yeah, sure. Because what's the alternative? You have to pad for 45 more minutes. You just end up doing a podcast the hook. Yeah, sure. Because what's the alternative? You have to pad for 45 more minutes. You just end up doing a podcast with her. Yeah, exactly.

But you feel like – I feel like I'm padding, talking about something I don't even want to talk about. Like I'm sort of – by that stage I'm saying, oh, Tommy's going to Tokyo. I don't know what he's going to do. He's probably going to go to Universal Studios and might pick up some Kit Kats and oh, what else? What else?

And she's like – Who cares? Yeah, I'm like, hey, I don't even care what I'm talking about. Don't walk off on me. I want to walk off on me. I don't even care what I'm talking about. You didn't think to like turn it back and go, so what do you do for a living? No.

No, no. Maybe she's got her own podcast. Maybe she was waiting to be asked. Who got off the tram first at the end? She did. Was there any eye contact at that point? I didn't even wait for the tram to stop. Tuck and roll.

Yeah, no, I felt so ashamed. I sort of, I really actually put my head down. Okay. And so I wouldn't know when she got off the tram. Tommy, you've got to track her down, mate. Get her on. I like to imagine her now, like I'm looking into the future and her just listening to this going,

I cannot believe how long they've been talking about this two-minute interaction in the street. We've got Santa Chilera over here and we're talking about me on the tram. Yeah. But you, sorry Santa. No, no, no. Tommy, I don't know if we're allowed to talk about this, but you just came back from, generally means no, but I'll push on. You just came back from Japan.

Yes. And look, you can say no to this conversation but here we go you are a single like i said you've been single for how long now uh like nine months nine months but who's counting i really miss her relationship stopped on a tram yeah i guess the conversation was awful in the same way it's like you're going out then she Relationship stopped on a tram. The conversation was awful. In the same way, it's like you're going out and she just goes, I'm going to stand over there now forever.

I don't want to go into details about the breakup, but I guess you could say we just got on different carriages. The tram of life came along and we just, I wanted to be up the front, she wanted to be up the back and, you know, what do you do? But where was this head? So Tokyo and single, because I'm wanting to know where this is going. Me too. Yeah.

No, I don't think you are. So you were leaving and you said to me, you're leaving, you're two days away from going to Tokyo. And then you said you got a message from the ex-girlfriend saying, I want to pick something up because I'm off to Tokyo. Yeah. In two days. Yeah. And you're like, awesome. Yeah.

She was there at the exact same time. Wow. What? That's weird. Well, it's not that weird. I mean, I got my flights on a Jetstar sale that was like a very limited travel period. Right. So, you know, that would have been a lot of- Jetstar's an airline.

I know. I know. Yeah. Was that- Yeah. It's got airplanes. The ones with propellers, rightstar's an airline. I know. Yeah, yeah. Was that… Yeah. It's got aeroplane… The ones with propellers, right? Yeah, yeah.

I know those ones. And they wind it up. They wind it up, yeah. It's the airline that you catch when you're contemplating putting a tip jar up the front of your live podcast so you can bring in more coin. That would have… Jetstar would have a tip jar up the front of their plane, I imagine.

Yeah, they're not far off. Well, there's one. I wouldn't mind tipping that if the pilot does a good job. Oh, really? The stakes are high enough for that one at the end of the flight. I'd tip the pilot. Yeah, sure. If he gets me to safe ground, I'm happy to tip.

Yeah, exactly. It's like booking Greg Fleet for a gig. He wants the money up front, but there needs to be enough money at the end for him to bother doing the job properly. I normally decide that because I've done that many times. Yeah. Yeah, that's fine. Sure. there needs to be enough money at the end for him to bother doing the job properly. I'm allowed to say that because I've done that many times. That's fine. I don't think Greg Fleet's lawyers are going to get

onto us anytime soon. He's an icon. Yeah, what a lovely thing of you to say. He is. Santo, if you're still practicing law and if G Fleet came to you and went, I want to sue a podcast, what would your response be? Well, I'd say, hang on, did you sign a release

plan? I'm telling you, give me a look. Here's the problem. The guy who runs the podcast signed it when there was no need for it. Did you see your ex in Tokyo? I didn't, but without going into too much detail, there's a lot of stuff

left unsaid in that breakup. We haven't had had any contact i was just thinking knowing that she was over there in that in this at the same time how funny it would be just to kind of mess with her a bit to get in touch and go look i can't leave this any longer we need to do this now so meet me in the shibuya virgin megastore tower records level three in between Susie and the Banshees And Sister Sledge I did the all Two great ones Very good

They're both near each other In the alphabet Wow That was incredible I'm part of a podcast Yeah If only you'd been That smooth and sharp

On that tram Things could have been Different, Carl If only everything Could be fixed With an 80s music reference. Yeah. We could be married by now.

So, yeah, that's my answer. My ex was over there at the same time. What was your angle here? What were you hoping to get out of this? My angle is because I did a thing where I had a bad breakup where I then had to go to Canberra for a job and I knew she was there and I knew she'd moved there to live. And so I just knew she vaguely

lived in this large city so the whole time I was in Canberra I remember just being on tenterhooks the whole tent tenter tenter oh that's another one tentacle hooks just no that's not it so just was it was it your old stomping ground yeah I was champing at the bit to not see my ex-girlfriend and I was just walking around the city going i hope i'm just looking at people like old men going is that her is that he had just frightened of seeing and i thought i thought maybe that was dated an old man it was a long time ago you dated a wrinkly bald woman so i was like that the entire time so i was just thinking well i hope you you weren't like that in tokyo just walk around going oh no i and i this is

insane in a city that big but i did yeah exactly constantly was thinking like and just going this is insane but i was just like that's also the kind of insane thing that would happen like it's the last thing you want to happen yeah so of course it's going to happen and i did uh my friend who i was with we were walking through uh toky Tokyo Station trying to find this strip of ramen restaurants. Should be a pretty easy task. What? A strip of ramen restaurants in Japan. Yeah, yeah, but it's underneath a train station. So it's like this real labyrinth to get there.

But I freaked out and I went quiet for like five minutes. And then my friend's like, what? I'm like, because I thought I'd seen it. Oh, right. Honestly. And I was almost like, if I tell my friend this, I'm going to appear crazy. Like, yeah, I just went a little quiet because I think I saw

my ex-girlfriend in an underground train station in Tokyo. And not even like I saw, I thought I saw her like in a mirror like looking back at me. It's like this is, yeah, this is like insane. You thought you saw your ex-girlfriend in a mirror. How much did she look like you? Well, I'd said Candyman three times. She's got a moustache.

But the thing is, did you know who she was travelling with? Yeah. A friend of hers. Okay, right. Because usually in films it's like, oh, and I'd like to introduce you to my new husband. That's it. That world. That's it.

But you weren't expecting that. Hey, maybe she's met someone over there. Okay. This is my new boyfriend, Hiroshi. Oh, and I'd like to introduce you to my new husband. That's it. That will. That's it. But you weren't expecting that. Hey, maybe she's met someone over there. Okay. This is my new boyfriend, Hiroshi. Oh, God. That's no good. No. No, but I didn't.

I didn't. I'm pretty sure that wasn't her. Hey, it could have been. Yeah. Yeah. It was. But it didn't spoil your time in Tokyo. Or your ramen.

It spoiled, yeah, it spoiled five minutes of the walk through the train station. Oh, that's okay. Where I felt like I was having a panic attack. Right. Because this is the other thing. So I have high blood pressure. I take pills for it. Why do you have high blood pressure? Because I'm not talking out of school,

but you don't do anything all day. First of all, I do stuff. Second of all, it's genetic. I've got it from me dad. Just like 50 bucks in my bank account. Yeah, you got me. Hey, it's not nice to pre-empt my sledges, all right? Your sister's sledges.

Oh, yeah, good reference. So I left my medicine at home and it's like without – that's quite bad so I have to go to the doctor. So this incident where I thought I saw her in the train station, this happened in the period where it's been a couple of days. It's before I've go to the doctor so i this this incident or i thought i saw in the train station this happened in the period where it's been a couple days it's before i've gone to the doctor yeah and gotten the medicine so i'm i'm freaking out i'm i'm like this is it this is i'm gonna have a stroke in the tokyo train station yeah but apart from that it was a lovely time but you you had to like from my experience in japan you're going around you're talking to people they're not english is in their first language it's hard enough to say hello, goodbye, that sort of thing.

And then you're going in for heart medicine? Yeah, yeah. It was not great. I found an English-speaking doctor and he gave me a prescription. Cheap? No, it's like 300 bucks to go to the doctor. Yeah. For 300 bucks, you'd be sort of going.

And for all the hard work to be getting through Japanese doctors, you'd have to be sort of going, do I really need heart medicine? There was a thing of me going, what if I just risk it for two weeks? But according to my doctor, it's like mega high. Also, the ironic thing is you'd be getting the medicine for your high blood pressure and then you see the bill and then it just goes bang. Yeah, again, literally the whole thing is – it's the snake eating itself. It's so – the whole thing is so stressful.

I found it stressful. When I went to Tokyo, I took my – it was my dream. All I lived for my whole life was basically to take my dad to a World Cup. Oh, yeah? So I took my dad to the World Cup in Tokyo and – in Japan and Korea in 2002. So most of my time in Tokyo with my dad was basically trying to find Italian food or a coffee. That was so stressful. It was all about what do we do?

Where are we going to go now? How am I going to eat? And he tried so hard to eat all the stuff. But the thing is that my dad was 72. He's, what, 85 now. But at the time, it was the first time in my life where you realise at a certain age they become your kids and you're basically telling your dad what to do and stuff.

And I literally floated above my body and heard myself say to my dad, down in an underground station, no, no, dad, we will not be stopping to go to the toilet, okay? I actually said that to him. We will not be stopping to go to the toilet. Keep going, I said. Well, it sounds like it's changed a fair bit in 13 years because I saw tons of Italian food there.

Oh, really? They love it now. Yeah, maybe he was – yeah, I think he was more looking like – he was looking for things like porchetta. You know, he was actually – La porchetta. La porchetta. La porchetta, yeah, that kind of stuff.

There's only one. La porchetta. Is that shorthand? Was that shorthand there? Do you just call it Porchetta? Yeah, Porchetta. Yeah, that's the way we would say it. Right, right.

La Porchetta, that's more important. That's the Porchetta. It's the. It's not. No, it's just anyone. Sorry, I'm a skip. Guilty. Sorry.

They've really dropped off in the advertising market recently. Remember they used to have the little jingle that used to be on the ads all the time? I've never seen the ads for La Porchetta anymore. Well, didn't the founder of it, he came to a bit of an end at St Kilda Junction didn't he? Oh really? Well there was a motorbike accident and he got killed in a motorbike accident. Oh okay. Yeah

so I think things have quietened down since then. Right yeah. That's the traditional way a pizza owner's going that's the story as old as time Although there was a story the other day on the original owner before it became a franchise. He's got a house down in Rye which is unbelievable.

It looks like the Parthenon. But you're going to say it looks like a giant pizza. Well, I'll tell you what, a giant pizza would actually almost be more tasteful than what the place actually looks like. Oh, I did see this. It's amazing. It looks like the Acropolis. But at the same time, it's also got the horses from St. Mark's Cathedral

in Venice, you know, the four horses. It's kind of weird. And then on top of that, it's just satellite dishes. Oh, right. It's an amazing thing. Just all-star dishes up there. Yeah. Where was the original La Pochetta?

Where's the first one? Where's Ground Zero? The first one would have been… Underground in Tokyo. I can't believe. Pochetta Sun. Rathdown Street. Rathdown Street. Oh, yeah. I used to live near that one. I didn't know that was the original. Oh, that was the first one. Where's Ground Zero? The first one would have been… Underground in Tokyo. I believe. Porchetta Sun. Rathdown Street. Rathdown Street.

Rathdown Street. Oh, yeah. I used to live near that one. I didn't know that was the original. Oh, that was the first one. Yeah. Then when it became a franchise, that actually stayed La Porchetta, but the guy opened up near the San Remo Ballroom in Nicholson Street

and that became the mall. Oh. It was its own restaurant slash pizzeria without it being a franchise. Right. Okay. I want to ask you, I think, this is my guess with you, have you never had another job apart from comedy? Have you both basically, oh, well, Sam, you would have had another job.

No, because I've had very different. Oh, no, well, you know what, because we were talking before on your Wikipedia page, which you've dispelled before we talked, it said you went into radio at age 18. So I thought, oh, you've just been showbiz Sam all your life. Yeah, showbiz Sam. Have you had a job, Sam? I didn't go to the radio.

When the Wikipedia page says he went down to whatever, he started in radio at 18. It said you played for under-19s Collingwood Football Club. He was a champ. He was a champ. Were you an actual champ? No. I played for under-19s Collingwood Football Club. He was a champ. He was a champ. Were you an actual champ? No. I played for under-19s for Collingwood.

Is that the era where you could just sort of rock down to the club and get a game? No, you needed to have an... I was invited. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You needed to have an afro at the time. No, but the radio thing was I went down to 3CR radio station at the age of 29. Right. Yeah.

29? So I don't know why they say 18. That's off by a lot. Yeah, it's off by a lot, Tommy. It's like, well, that's Wikipedia for you. So what happened in the missing 10 years? Yeah, the missing 10 years. There's a doco.

You're now having to account for time that's based on something that someone's made up on you on your Wikipedia. Like we're saying it's your fault. So where were you that whole time, mate? Where were you on John Lennon's lost weekend? I was in Tokyo after 10 years looking for a telly. Looking for ramen. No, I was, what did I, I had jobs and I was playing footy,

like, but semi, semi, you know. So I would play football in, at the, like, the VFA in the old, you know, for Paran and Preston and then I went to the country. Oh, did you play VFA? Yeah. After Collingwood, I can't believe we're doing This Is Your Life. Under-19s for Collingwood. Like I said, I wasn't very good.

I put, like, one season there, 14 games as a permanent half-foot flanker, kick one goal. Sam, by the way, I don't know if you don't want to talk about this. You do know it's an option to just walk off on him, right? Yeah. There's another podcast going on in the other room that you can jump in on. We'll do this again on a tram. We'll do this on a tram and then we can get off at any time.

I reckon I've watched you play under-19s because Sam and I grew up in the same neighbourhood. I mean, there's a few generations difference. But I would have gone to see – when I used to go see Collingwood play at Victoria Park, I would go see under-19s reserves and I'm just wondering whether I would have seen you, Sam. You'd have to get there early to see, when I used to go see Collingwood play at Victoria Park, I would go see Under-19s, Reserves, and I'm just wondering whether I would have seen you, Sam. You'd have to get there early to see my game. My game started at 9 o'clock. Well, yeah. And then

once Collingwood gave me the flick, I went to Paran in the VFA and Preston. How did Collingwood give you the flick? How does that actually happen? Well, it was the last year around the 19s. So, you know, like there's 40 on the list or 20, you know, by the time. We played in the grand final that year, but I didn't.

I was like, you know, an emergency or whatever. So at the end of it, they say, yeah, you're not going on the senior list. Right. Okay. But we'll keep an eye on you and, you know, da, da, da. And then I go, no. Have they been in contact lately or? Still waiting, Carl or Still waiting Carl

I haven't given I haven't officially retired Mind you Carlton have been on the phone Carlton want me to Captain coach It's Yeah so my 20s

Were just They were very Yeah they were pretty loose Really Yeah It was very What did you do What jobs

Did you hold down I worked at the Spaghetti tree Did you Did you Nice I actually worked there At the same time We did We did about a two month Did you hold down? I worked at the Spaghetti Tree. Did you? Did you? Nice. I actually worked there at the same time. We did about a two-month kind of crossover when she was just finishing

and I was just starting with Julia Zemiro. Oh. She was a waitress there. Remember her? Yeah. She was a waitress there. Wow. Spaghetti Tree, a breeding ground for SBS.

Oh, yeah. Exactly. Wow. There was that. But I only did – because of footy Where I was paid A small amount I didn't have Full time jobs

How much did you get paid? To play football Yeah I think the most I got paid In one year In the country Was like

400 cash A game Oh really And I wouldn't train Or anything Mum used to give me 50 cents a goal In the under 9s Yeah well Tom Galley Mum used to give me 50 cents a goal In the under 9s

Yeah well Tom Galley Gave me 400 And 50 cents a goal As well But you'd get a bonus You'd get a bonus If you played well Wouldn't you

I know there were awards At the end of the day But if you were a paid Player like from Melbourne Going up there It kind of Would seem weird To get the $50

Voucher to Mitre 10 As well Oh really They would give it more To the locals. I used to dream of, because I played soccer to a certain level up until early 20s, like in provisional and state leagues, and we used to play all the clubs in Melbourne

that were a lot more ethnic than Ballarat Soccer Club, which was just whoever was lying around. And we'd go to these, and you'd hear all the stories of if you'd win, you'd go to these And you'd hear all the stories of If you'd win You'd go back to get changed And some generous benefactor Had stuffed rolls of 50s in your boots And stuff like that

And like we never got any of that We'd have to You know We'd be lucky to beg the bus driver To stop at a Pizza Hut on the way home To get anything And how old were you? This is age 17, 18

Yeah Playing to a certain level of soccer It was alright They were my heydays of semi-professional sports I played in provisional league for Melbourne University Because I grew up playing for those ethnic clubs as a junior You'd end up playing for Melbourne University in provisional league And you'd play against Thomastown All these sort of ethnic kind of clubs

that would – the tirades of Italian against you. And then you'd turn around and answer back in Italian. Oh, sorry, we didn't realise you were Italian. We take it all back because we should have realised that – yeah. Is that an insult? Did you feel insulted that you didn't look Italian enough, that you got insulted? Actually, maybe.

Well, I've never kind of really looked Italian, so I've been used to that since a little kid. But I was slightly insulted. It's like, come on, guys, don't you remember me from... Isn't there a secret handshake? You weren't rolling up to games like it was

stroking a white cat just to let them know that you were the real deal? Not quite, not quite. Is that an Italian stereotype? Having a white cat just to let him know that you were the real deal. Not quite, not quite. Is that an Italian stereotype? Yeah. Having a white cat on hand? That's an evil henchman stereotype, I think. No, no, that's the Godfather. That's the definitive.

Did he have a white cat? Yeah. Did he really? Did he? You're thinking of Dr. Evil. I'm telling you, Marlon Brando had a cat. On the day of his daughter's wedding, I'm telling you, he had a cat in that little room.

You're right, actually. Luca Brasi's out the front waiting to go in. Yeah. The Godfather was a movie. There was a horse's head. I know that. Thank you. The horse's head?

Yeah. Yeah. But not that bit. It was the same movie. Okay. Same movie. I had lunch with, who was the guy that I had lunch with? Oh, Marlon Brando.

No, no. From the Godfather movies. He was in. Oh, Abe Vigoda. Abe Vigoda. Oh, yeah. Abe Vigoda, who was. Instead of stories about the spaghetti tree,, Abe Vigoda. Abe Vigoda. Oh, yeah. Abe Vigoda who was… Instead of stories about the spaghetti tree,

bring the Vigoda episode earlier. Abe Vigoda was in The Godfather. He played Tessio. You had… What did you do? No, no. We just went to the Friars Club. We went to the Friars Club in New York.

Oh, wow. He just got invited. Strangely enough, I had no idea what it even was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sam, how many cup of… I'll tell you what. Oh, wow. Strangely enough, I had no idea what it even was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sam, how many cup of ice cream? I'll tell you what. Oh, that's a good one. Fettuccine Alfredo.

Wow, what a menu it was. And you said you got the Mitre 10 voucher or not? What did you buy at Mitre 10? So many things. No, no, no. Because I'm interested. It was just, I mean, you don't have to say where you worked

But apart from waitering Did you do any other stuff? I don't Really? There's an avocados story We were at the There's no ice club in New York Trust me

The avocados story's not worth it You want my Part time jobs in my 20s Especially since you don't Want to tell it so much Now we extra want it You'll find out Why I didn't want to tell it

In about 30 seconds You'll go Yeah, probably You shouldn't have told it. Spaghetti Tree is a way to part-time. Bottle Shop, the Clifton Hill Bottle Shop just down here. Part-time and behind the bar. And that's it. That's it.

Two jobs in 10 years. Is that what you're saying? So were you the kind of like, you know, your brother is obviously a bit of an achiever in the family. Were you considered the guy? Were you considered the pang that never is like, okay, look, he'll get there eventually. Who's your brother? Panga.

He's not – yeah, Panga. Oh, sorry. He's that important in the Pang family that the brother's called Panga. He has to call him Panga. Even though there's another brother who's also called Pang, he's not allowed to have the Panga. No, my brother and sister, both younger than me, yeah, you would argue, you know,

we're on a path that they look like they were achieving more, and they were, and they have. Did you all play together in the under-19s, like the Danaher brothers? No, no. But, you know, speaking of the Danaher brothers, do you know I have a book signed by all Danaher's? Do you?

I have a book signed by, I was working at Triple R doing breakfast radio there. For people who don't know, the Danaher brothers played for Essendon in the AFL. Yes. VFL. And Terry Danaher came in to plug a book. My childhood hero. Terry Danaher was.

He was a good player. He was an excellent player. I once made a banner. Coming from the country, coming from Melbourne, we'd only see the football once every two or three years. We drove to the MCG. I made a big banner that said, number five is alive. And went

to pull it out and got told to put it down immediately. Took me hours. Chucked it away immediately. Paper mache. Kevin Sheedy wouldn't give me his autograph. By the way, next time on a tram, sneak these in. Just go with it.

These old football stories, that girl would have been like. Oh, yeah. Yeah, these old football stories. That girl would have been like, oh, awesome. That's all we talk about is old football stories. But just this book, I just want to say, Terry Danaher came into Triple R to plug a book that he had no idea what it was. It was on the Danaher Brothers. Who wrote it? Adam McNickle.

Adam McNickle, a good journalist. He wrote it. And Terry Danaher was in. And I got him. Natural fit for Triple R. Natural fit. We had to work hard to get it over the line. The album of the week band wouldn't come on

so Terry Danaher was late to replacement. I got him, but they didn't actually, but the publishers hadn't brought the book in but I thought, stuff it, I'm just going to get him to sign a book. So I grabbed a book off the shelf and it was Sir John Gilgud Shakespeare Hit or Miss. And I got Terry Danaher to sign it. And then I took it to a lunch because that's where I knew

Anthony Danaher was going to be and I got him to sign it. And he looked at it and loved it. He said, give it to me, I'll go back and I'll get the brothers to sign it. Oh, wow. And so we took it away for a year, gave it back. Was there a dedication on it or did they just sign their names? Just their names. Yeah.

They should have spelt their names with three R's at the end. That would have been nice. We were talking merch just before we started recording. By the way, we'll get back to the Vigoda story. No, no, no. It's not worth it. You said you've got a good thing signed by Rodney Rood? Rodney Rood.

Oh, yeah. No, you were talking about merch. What were we talking about merch for? This was before we started. But I was telling Santa that this was last night. I went to see Rodney Rood about three or four years ago at the Doncaster Shopping Town Hotel.

Sweet combo. For those younger viewers and listeners out there. Is that the place across the road from Doncaster? Yes. So the Doncaster Shopping Town Hotel. As I was walking out, coming up was like Belinda Carlisle. Yes.

This venue has got its niche. Yeah, it's got the pseudo-echo Vanilla Ice were there. Yeah, Vanilla Ice did the tour. Wow. I think Mental Is Anything were there actually not that long ago. Yeah. Uncanny X-Men, Brian Maddox. He does a lot of them.

He did that, yeah. I see Rude do his show, two hours. Two hours? I don't even know that the show's over. There's no official thank you very much, everyone, da-da-da-da-da. You knew the show was over when he went behind the curtain and just pushed out this massive trunk full of merch. That's how we knew the show was over.

And then so my brother, so Panga, you know, hilariously goes... You call your brother Panga, by the way. Everyone calls him Panga. Right, okay. He's the high achiever. You don't ever get to use your own name anymore around your brother. No. There's only one.

You've never even won an episode of Have You Been Paying Attention, you fucking loser. I'm trying. These questions are so hard. Get Panga on. Yeah, we will get Panga on. Panga being Panga. The showdown of the century.

Yeah. That won't work, by the way. Panga has actually been on Total Football. He's made a couple of appearances. He played my limo driver once. And I'll tell you what, no lines. It just wasn't believable. Yeah, I thought he overacted a little bit.

He had one thing where he just had to stand there. That was what he did. So you went and bought the merchandise? No, Panger bought the merchandise and he brings me back this Rodney Roode T-shirt. You know, the... Oh, it was the... The classic caricature that's been made 35 years ago

which no longer looks anything like him. The little cartoon drawing of him in the middle. The cartoon drawing. Yeah, and now I remember. He was on a tour and it was called the Wrong Hole Tour. Yeah. So this is my bona fides. That's a bit subtle for me.

Rodney Rood's on the Wrong Hole Tour. Panger buys a T-shirt signed by Rodney Rood to Sam. Signed by Anthony Denneher. Signed by Rodney Rood. Every Rood brother. Charles Rood. Sandy Rood. Signed by Rodney Roode Every Roode brother Charles Roode I should have given it Sandy Roode Ravishing Rick Roode

Hang on It's signed To Sam Rimmie Rodney Roode The man's a genius The man's a genius But I like how you were going

Oh check it out Rimmie What a genius You went? Yeah What did you You went? Yeah What did you go for? I went because When I was young Growing up

You know I had the You know You just listen to tapes Because I argue The whole country Could be divided Into two halves

Rodney Rude half Or Kevin Bloody Wilson And I was a rude man And so I used to listen To tapes or whatever Like at school Your mum's bum Yeah yeah

Frog sack. Mate, everyone knows him. And then finally, you know, 20 years later, he's at the Don Caster Show in Montevideo. Where are you going? What was the demo like at the Rodney Roode gig? Well, I went with, Panga was there, obviously. Oh, yeah, I heard about that.

One of my mates, who once a doctor, he kept on reminding me the whole concert. Concert? Yeah, concert. Well, being a doctor, he kept on reminding me the whole concert. Concert? Yeah, concert. Well, being a doctor, he would probably scientifically know which one is the wrong hole. So that would have been handy. He came in very handy. But he kept on looking around and he did look around at the demographic and the audience.

He goes, I guess I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, I reckon I'm the only jewel specialist in the audience. I had to give it to him. Yeah, we made it as a mix bag. Right, okay. What if there'd be some jewel specialists in there, just specialists in very different areas?

Very different areas, yeah. Well, jewel specialists like claiming on two different names at the dole office, I reckon there'd be a few of them. I loved it. I had a great night. Yeah, okay. Let's go back to Abe Vigoda at the Friars Club. What was the demo like at that? First of all, I had no idea.

For the people who don't know, it's an exclusive club just for comedians. So when I rolled up there, they basically told me that the week before there had been a celebrity roast for Danny Aiello and the next week was a celebrity roast for John Travolta. So it's the home of the celebrity roast. It's where the roasts came from.

And you had to wear your own – this is in New York? It was in New York. I'd never been to New York. This was in the late 90s. And basically there was a guy – I was just – my wife and I just lived in basically like an apartment for a couple of weeks and the owner of the whole building was so bored with his own life that he just was saying hello to anyone

who lived in his building. And his name was – I'll never forget it. His name is Alan, A-L-A-N, Alan, A-double-L-E-N. And he would always say to me, hey, my name's Alan, Alan, but I'm not from Wagga Wagga. He'd always say that and I figured there's something slightly sticky about him, clearly. And he used to have a seafood restaurant somewhere where all the comedians used to go to. And his best friend was Henny Youngman.

Oh, wow. The one and only. The one and only, yeah. So he basically said to me, he kept on saying every day, I'm going to take you to the Friars Club, right? And I'd go, yeah, we should do that. And I had no idea what he was talking about. And eventually there was a start, some guy who was cleaning, a janitor, I think they call him in America, whatever they are. He just said, you know, when Mr. Allen says he's going

to take you to the Friars Club, he means he's going to take you to the Friars Club. So I started thinking, geez, I must find out what this Friars Club thing is. So I found out and I said, hey, look, I'll come with you. And we basically went along and he said, do you mind if we pick somebody up on the way? And it was Abe Vigoda, who's, if you see the Godfather movies, you'll know who it is. The guy with the long face, dark. When you're in Alan Allen's car and he stops and Abe Vigoda gets in. I freaked.

Yeah. Like, oh, my God, that's amazing. Mind you, the whole thing was totally surreal because Alan Allen, who's not from Wagga Wagga, he had some, he was a shaky kind of, so he had some kind of Parkinson's kind of stuff. And my job was basically, he would always tell me to bend – have a look down to see whether he's pissed his pants. So that was basically my job whenever we went out.

He'd go, I've just been to the toilet. Can you just check because I don't know whether I've leaked all over myself. So it wasn't that glamorous. But, yeah, so we went to this place and it was totally insane. Everybody had conversations like they were jokes. They were just saying, anyway, so I went down on a cruise and I tell you what, my wife had spent so much money

I didn't know what to do and then I got home and I'm going, wow, that's not even a joke. You're telling it like a joke. So it was really weird and he kept introducing me as this is the funniest man in Australia. For no reason, I mean, you know, it's not as if I was on a tram telling people how great I was.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. How many people are bailing on conversations with you at the Friars Club? Yeah, they went and sat on a different table. They just said, we'll just sit here. But it was a very weird day. It was a weird day. And you saw comedians around. And you had to wear, like they gave you a special jacket to wear?

Oh, no, I didn't have a jacket. I had And you had to wear – like they gave you a special jacket to wear? Oh, no. I didn't have a – I had to go up to Alan Allen's apartment and get a tie because, you know, you don't travel with a suit or anything like that. But we had to wear a suit. Yeah. So it was great. It was really good. That's amazing.

So old school shit. Every now and then on the shows we work on, Santo gets me to check if he's pissed his pants. It's really nice. All right. Well, guys, I think that's just about all the time we have for the little Dum Dum Club this week. Sam Pang, Santo Chilero, thank you so much for joining us.

Pleasure. Thanks, Carl. Is there things coming up? Have you been paying attention Mondays on Channel 10? Channel 10. On Channel 10, that'll be out. That'll, yeah, till the end of the year. After MasterChef.

After MasterChef. After MasterChef. After ADBC. Did we just find this out? Reruns, Saturday night at 10pm. I have no idea. Are they, Sam? I know there are reruns. In the modern day, the show gets replayed all the time on 10 and then 1H

to whatever. But yeah. This is on 31 on Saturday night. Watch this. Saturday night watch this yeah watch this instead of that but there are tell you what is coming up second series of Utopia

on channel 2 yes with a lot of friends of the show appearing yeah Lemo, Celia yeah

Lukey so yeah so that'll come up probably in about a month's time I'm guessing so that'll be on a Thursday night on channel 2 alright we'll finish with a question

to you boys you know when Celia and all the other, you know, Celia and Liam and all your other mates come on, any Abe Vigoda stories get popped out? Or is this the first one? This is, yeah, I mean... It's in the top five best Abe Vigoda stories

we've had on this podcast. Easily. I feel really ashamed now because there was no story in there. It was just other than we went to the Fry's Club. I wish I could talk about, you know. If we're going to recap, I did two minutes on the spaghetti trick. Don't feel too bad sometimes. Hang on, I can feel people switching over to,

are you paying attention now? I wanted to do a Friars Club type of joke, though, that, you know, about the, I'm going to sign this release form. If ever you have Rex Hunt on, he should sign a catch and release form. So I just wanted to put that in because that's what they – well, they would have said it in a different kind of way in the Friars Club. But, hey, you know, believe it or not, you should catch and release form. See, then it's funny.

That's good. Then it's funny. We've been looking for a reason to try and get Rex Hunt in here and now we've got him. That's the first question. That'll fill up one minute. Guys, we've got our live show happening this Saturday, July 18th at The Joint

at 8pm. Not only our live show, our live 250th episode. Our live 250th spectacular. Adelaide and Perth are happening too. All that stuff's up on the website littledumbdumbclub.com. October 17 and November 18, I believe. That's all that we've got for this week

Thank you very much for listening And we'll see you next time See ya mates