The Little Dum Dum Club with Tommy & Karl - 579 - Lehmo & Danny McGinlay

Episode Date: November 2, 2021

After last weeks damning story of Karl's first pub session out of lockdown, DANNY MCGINLAY joins us for a right-of-reply, and LEHMO sits in the judges seat. We spend the entire episode going through every facet of this debacle: was Danny justified in wanting to bring his child to the pub? Did Karl give him enough notice? Was the messaging too vague on both sides? Things get very heated and passionate, and we also hear the devastating story of what Danny ended up getting up to on the day. It's good to be back! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today on the Little Dumb Dumb Club, a brand new episode with guests Danny McGinley and Limo. A couple of things to remind you of. We have the 500th episode coming up January the 15th, 2022. Few tickets left, scant few tickets left for that on littledumbdumbclub.com. But that is all we have to remind you of that we have on sale that you have access to at the moment. Yeah, we're on Patreon. You can sign up to that and you'll hear more about that in the back end in Talking Dumb Dumb after this brand new episode with a little grudge being squared off. Yes, so enjoy this right of reply with Danny McGinley and Limo.

Hey, ladies. Hey, mates. Welcome once again into the Little Dumb Dumb Club for another week. Thank you very much for joining us. My name is Tommy Dasolo. And with me, as always, the other half of the program, Carl Chandler. G'day, Dickhead. We have two very special guests joining us today.

Please welcome back into the Little Dumb Dumb Club, Danny McGinley and Laman. Yay! Hello, Tommy. club, Danny McGinley and Leeming. Hello, Tommy. Hello, Danny. Hey, hang on, hang on. Let's pop this bubble at the top of the show. We did it previously on Dum Dum Club. The feud that stops a nation.

I think it's a little bit rare, a little bit rude, I should say, Tommy, that you haven't handed a mic to Danny's daughter that he's brought along to the podcast. I think that's a little bit rude. Do you know why? Because I said, oh, look, I might have to bring my daughter and Tommy went, oh, that's probably not a good idea. He communicated. Okay, alright. Let's wind backwards. Let's wind backwards. Yeah, right. Alright. Previously on Little Dumb Dumb Club, last week what we've

done here is we did, I did mention Danny McGinley, we did have a big pub session the first day out of lockdown. The pubss were open 12 on the dot on the friday uh danny mcginley was coming the night before bomb shelly dropped on me he was going to bring his daughter i said no i said the pub's full the bookings are full he wasn't allowed to come he uh i said that to you in the morning got a bit upset bit of back and forth and then we talked about in the morning, got a bit upset, bit of back and forth, and then we talked about it in the pod and then some people dobbed on us and it got out to you and now we've got to fucking deal with it.

It's amazing how a podcast that goes out to tens of thousands of listeners got back to you. Yeah, yeah. We thought it was only released in Chile. Yeah, yeah. This is very breakfast radio of us. We burped this guy yesterday and now he's coming in for the right of reply.

Limo, did you listen to the episode or are you the judge now? Can we give our answer to the best? Welcome in, Judge Limo. I'm very happy to be the judge. Great. Can I just say though before, just hit pause on that for a moment, why didn't we record the

half hour of amazing banter before you started recording this fucking podcast? Yeah, I should just start it rolling. But I think it's so tedious when there's a podcast where the guest goes, oh, we're recording now. I don't want to do that kind of gotcha style of podcasting. Yeah, you're right. There was a lot of great laughs until now we're talking about

why Danny didn't come to the pub a week ago. Okay. So I am happy to be judge and jury in this situation. Thank you. And then as a treat at the end when we resolve this, you can rip out those Keith Richards stories you were telling us. This is a palate cleanser.

You are a good judge because you love sinking piss and you have a child. Correct. Correct. And just for the record, I want to point out that I have brought my son to the recording of a Dumb Dumb podcast. That's true. That has happened, yes.

Yes. You might be the perfect adjudicator for this. What I did though, Danny, you might have made a mistake here, I didn't ask. I just took him. Now how would that, Let's play that out How would that have gone down Carl Danny doesn't flag it with you You're at the pub

Let's say Danny's like The last one to arrive Everyone's there Having a great time You know Well that would have changed Is what would have happened Yeah yeah

Mulan's like on one About how he's going to bum you When you've had another couple of pints Danny turns up with the child What do you do anything Do you go You have to go home or No you can't do anything

At that point But having said that Like that's the? No, you can't do anything at that point. But having said that, that's the risk. Maybe we don't get let in at that point because there's too many people in the pub. Because that was a legit concern. First day of lockdown, there's still restrictions in buildings and businesses and whatever. There's no room for that to happen. Objection. Hang on a sec.

Just to be very clear here, I need to know exactly what I'm judge and jury on. Yes. So, what's the exact nature of the dispute here? Is it simply whether Danny can bring his daughter to the pub? It is. Is that it? The dispute is whether he should bring his daughter to the pub. No, no, no.

See, you can't even agree on what the dispute is. See, you can't even agree on what the dispute is. The dispute is, maybe Carl could have told me literally any time before the day. So this has come out during the week that you did flag this a week out. I did flag it. The second he texted me saying, hey, we're doing this next Friday. I went, great. I might have to bring my daughter. Yeah.

And I said. What did you say? Let me be very clear. This is all. We've got to get the my daughter. Yeah. And I said... And what did you say? Hang on, let me be very clear. This is all... We've got to get the facts right. Yeah. So you're not denying that that text exchange happened? I can show you the text exchange, Your Honour.

The exchange was... The exchange was... Keep your phone holstered. Maybe we should have gotten into this at the end of the ep because it might be hard to do another like 40 minutes after this. Oh, you think this is only going to go for 20 minutes? I thought I was

buffing it up if it is. No, so he, and look, I knew that Danny was going to be very excited by this thing. By the pub? Because we did it a year ago.

We had a great time, you and I. Yeah, we can talk about that as well. But, so, back in the good old days when you just didn't bring your fucking kid to wreck everything.

Yes. Objection. She is leading the witness. She hated drinking back then. She's come around now. I can't. You know, his opinion is his opinion. Yeah, thank you.

Thank you, Judge Lemo. And I think it's all relevant in this scenario. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So, I invited Danny as guest number one. I thought he's the most into it First cab off the rank

First Come on Don't try and say It's because he would be the most excited I'm his best friend Objection Overruled Again

That's Danny's opinion Danny is leading the witness If I'm the witness So Danny literally was the first person you messaged yes you are going to have to surrender your phone records

to the court so that we can verify this yeah that's fine your text exchanges will be entered into evidence just no internet history if that's cool

right so why is there so much redacted stuff in here you know who's a cunt oh it's just all these black lines so you yeah I asked you and then at some stage within that conversation You know who's a cunt? Oh, it's just all these black lines. So you, yeah, I asked you,

and then at some stage within that conversation, I went, I might have to bring my... Immediately. It's the first thing I sent back. Is it? Is it actually? So you might have to bring my... My response was... You said, oh God.

Yes. And for some reason, you are laboring under the misapprehension that that was a definitive no. No. And also not something you are laboring under the misapprehension that that was a definitive no and also not something you would just text anyway. Hang on a second. I've got to jump in here. I have to admit, to me the response, oh God, is that's not –

I wouldn't read that as a positive response. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Thank you. Can I just go back to dealing with Carl Chandler through text form? Yeah. Often I work for Carl Chandler. You're used to having to sing for your supper.

He likes to book his best friend to host his shows. And Danny as well. I will ask innocuous questions like, who else is on? What time is call time? Nine times out of ten, the response will just be... I don't think you can say on the air what the response is. It'll just be like, hey, who else is on? Fuck you.

Yeah, okay. That's all the response. Hey, are you having a beer tonight after the show? Get fucked. So me saying, I might as well bring my daughter, oh God. That is pretty stock standard. We're establishing a precedent here. You're saying in comparison that's a, bring your son.

Bring them all. So you're saying potentially in your reading of it, it's, oh God, what a blessing. My prayers have been realised. Carl was in church when Danny texted him and Carl got confused. I was having sex actually as you were texting me. And instead of saying it, I didn't want to wake up the baby so I just texted it to you.

I'm trying to put myself in your shoes. I don't know that I would take oh God as a definitive no, don't do that. But I also wouldn't be going this interaction is going as well. Okay, yeah. So look, I'll take that. I'll take that definitely. I'll take that from the official judge as well.

Who am I in the court, by the way? I'm all over the place. Also, in my reading of it, I would have thought that the response, oh, God, should elicit a follow-up at a very minimum to say, what do you mean by that? Great point. I'm so beyond asking Carl to –

because all that would do is just give him more room to be more of a cunt. He'd play into his trap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And not only like a definitive, just, I don't know, you work out what it means. Yeah. Because I will say an old God, if you're sending that thinking, I definitely don't want this guy bringing his kid.

Yes. Like I don't think you can send an old God and go, job done. Yes. Point of order. Point of order. As if. As if Carl Chandler. As if, Your Honour. That's it. I. Point of order. Point of order. As if. As if Carl Chandler. As if, Your Honour.

That's it. I'm just saying that. I'd love to see that in a court. Your Honour. As if. Your Honour. Your Honour. As if.

Sustained. As if Carl Chandler would have any problem telling me that he didn't want something to happen. I see what you're saying. The great thing about Carl Chandler especially in a This is only in our podcast. Especially in promoter form, if you've done

something on stage that he wasn't happy with, there's no How do you feel that way? There's no pussy footing. No pussy footing. It's straight in with the hair dry at the face. What the fuck is that? What the fuck is wrong with you? Hey, have you ever done this job before? Maybe do with the hair dry at the face. What the fuck is that? What the fuck is wrong with you? Hey, have you ever done this job before? Maybe do your good jokes right at the start.

But then the even better thing about Carl Chandler is then it's like three, two, one. So do you want a beer, mate? Yeah. He says his piece and then we move on. It's great. Yeah. But you know, over years of experience, you know definitively not to turn up to a Carl Chandler gig in shorts.

Yeah, absolutely. Is what you're saying. Because he's made that explicitly clear. And he owes me favours. Daughter at the pub thing. Daughterler gig in shorts. Yeah, absolutely. Is what you're saying, because he's made that explicitly clear. And he owes me favours. Daughter at the pub thing, yeah, I don't know. And also, let's not forget the time that Carl Chandler did a gig in shorts, and I took photos of it and posted it in a few secret groups, and then Carl Chandler was so embarrassed by it,

I offered to wear his shorts so he could wear my jeans on stage. Oh, yes, you did too. Yeah. Okay. Where were you wearing shorts? His own gig. Was it? Yeah, it was Euro.

Oh, you changed mid-gig into Danny's jeans? Yeah. After you posted the photo? I thought that was out in the country somewhere. Didn't we do that another time? We've probably done it a couple of times. So you two have got a handful of weird

clothes changing stories. Exactly. Yeah. So when you've got a brother who will, you know, take his pants off for you in the country, you'd think he would,

you know, he's godfather to this child by the way. I don't want to take my pants off in front of your daughter. That's the problem. Okay, so we're really

establishing that this is a friendship where you share clothes. If this breaks down over this pub session, that's the problem. Okay, so we're really establishing that this is a friendship where you share clothes. If this breaks down over this pub session, it's going to be a real challenge. I don't think this is relevant, Your Honour. I don't think this bit is relevant. I also clarified in that opening text

that something I'm very proud of with both my kids, they are very well pub trained. They have been going to pubs since they were newborns. They know how to behave. I think you've just jumped ahead here. I think you've jumped ahead. So this needs to be an evidentiary base. You've replied with, oh God.

I think we need to accelerate the conversation from there. I'd like to, my rejoinder to that is, yeah, you've said, oh God, that's not like locking in Eddie. That's not anything like that. Also, what you've said is, I may have to bring my daughter. Yes. The key word there is may, meaning that would be-

I believe it was might. Well, sorry. Hey, we've got to get these things. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's great. A whole day of this trial. I'm going to file that one under semantics So to me, in my head at the time

I don't need to put the hair dryer on Because of my common sense will surely prevail at this point You've got a week Why would anyone on purpose have a week And not organise something else in between? A babysitter, a family member, something like that. It's the first day out of lockdown. We're going to the pub.

There's no way that you're not going to find someone else to look after your kid in the meantime. That's my thought. To be fair, so you expected him to read all of that just out of the two words? Yes! Yes, Judge Lemo! Oh, God. Yes. Yes, Judge Lemo. Oh, God. I mean, because the devil is in the detail. There's a lot implied, I'll admit.

He did use please find a babysitter font. Who would have thought an ex-accountant would make such a good judge? He's nailing this. So we know exactly where Carl's head's at on day one. This is seven days out. Seven days out. Okay, so where's your head at after you received the, oh God? Are we talking, was there literally a week in between this exchange?

I think there might have been more than a week, wasn't there? Yeah, possibly. Yeah, ten days or something. I read, oh God, as, oh yeah yeah that's Chandler Saying the equivalent of get fucked Yep And any more interaction After that Okay so

The equivalent of get fucked Meaning oh just Keep doing what I'm doing then You use get fucked The way other people Use punctuation So to be clear here Danny

Seven days out In your head After that text exchange Did you think to yourself Carl's going to be totally fine If I bring my daughter Yeah Or did you think Carl's going to be totally fine if I bring my daughter? Yeah. Or did you think, oh, Carl's going to get fucking shitty

if I turn up with my daughter? Or thirdly, does it matter what Carl thinks? What about everyone else and just the common sense thing of bringing your kid to the pub on the first day at the pub? What do you think kids do at the pub, by the way? She sits in the corner, plays on her iPad, and we ignore her. I'm not worried about what she... But what are we doing?

We're at the pub. You can't... Going fucking kicking off. You say kick off. That's fine. She's seen us do that. She's been at pubs. She's been at footy games.

This is a good point. Yeah. She's... You know, you can talk about bumming each other because she doesn't know what that means. Look, I did... I did... Look Milan Milan

Alright well we need to verify that somehow We need to get into that I'll call my daughter right now So how was your weekend? Well Comes Walks into this room Me and Limo having anal sex

And Danny Sandler going What are they doing? What's this? Do you know what this is? Yeah Bumming? So Damn it!

So then we go, let's go a week into the future then. Let's go to the night before the pub. Christmas Eve. Yes. Yes. Freedom Eve. Okay. So as it stands on the eve of the catch-up,

to your mind, bringing your daughter is madness and you feel as though you're – I've barely even remembered that because I might – And you feel as though that's been established by your reply. I've barely remembered he said that because I'm like, well, of course he won't do that. And you're thinking in your head – Do you know what I was thinking, Limo, because we have our –

what is it, podcast called They Came to Play? Yes. We had to record on that Thursday. Correct. Which would be more annoying for me to bring my daughter to that. So I went, okay, all right, we've got Friday, pub. Yep, she's great at the pub. So I'll use up my babysitter credits so I can record the podcast

and I was doing something else on Wednesday, work-related, that I couldn't bring her to. Used up all my babysitter credits because Friday, all good, we're taking her to the pub, She's going to be well behaved. Bingo, bango. I see. I would have... I would have said,

bring her to my house. I can sit her in front of Bluey for a night. Yes, exactly. While we were... Now, I got that excuse the night before going, I've used up my babysitter credits. It's like, what are you using them on

if you're taking her to the pub? Are you using them when you're going to a brothel the night before? Like, what? 1201. they're open finally what's more necessary

thank you dictator Dan finally I can come that's what I want to see instead of politicians drinking beers when lockdown breaks I want to see them at the local knock shop

sure you can wank it home in lockdown but it's just better out of the tap. Oh, God, I've missed this. My mate wanted to bring his daughter. I said, that's not appropriate. Yes, exactly. And then he said, oh, God.

I was the madam in that situation the next day. So anyway, you may have erred in your judgment there, Oh God I was the madam In that situation The next day Yeah Right So anyway So you may have Erred in your judgement there But anyway It's happened So the night before

I get the message Oh so I'm bringing my daughter And me going What the fuck What are you talking about Now let's check Let's check the records Okay

Let's check the records Hang on So we're on the Friday morning Thursday night Thursday night Thursday night So are night. Thursday night. Are you texting just to confirm that tomorrow's happening? He did.

Carl did. So Carl texts you to say, hey, all good for tomorrow? Yes. Okay, here it is. Sorry, before you read that. By the way, the stenographers killed themselves in this court session at this point. How do you type for crosstalk? Before you read that, when you sent this, in your head were you thinking,

I'm going to send this just to make sure he doesn't bring that fucking kid to the pub? No. Like I said, the kid was gone from my memory. I've assumed that's not going to happen. Danny touches base to just confirm this is what I'm doing tomorrow, right? No, no. Oh, you touch base. I've touched base just to remind him of like, that we're going to the pub.

Okay. And there's been no chatting in this text thread in between? Okay, allow me to read for you here. Okay, let's go right back to the top. 15th October, 1744. Got a big table booked for next Friday midday at Mountview Hotel in Bridge Road for lunch and beers. In?

Question mark. I respond, it's open next Friday. Carl, it will be. Yeah. Me. Yes, I'm in. I may, it's open next Friday. Carl, it will be, yeah, me. Yes, I'm in. I may have to bring child's name. Thanks for posting that in the group, by the way, Carl. You fucking hypocritical cunt. I didn't know everyone else does the secret thing.

Well, I'm just doing it because you do it. I'll give her a fake name. What's Cody's kid's name? I'll bring Charlie. Yeah, but what about your kid? There's another reason why the kid shouldn't be there if you bring him that. Thursday afternoon, 300 bucks from the ATM.

Thank you very much. I may have to bring... Vera is her name. I may bring Vera. Objection? I may have to bring Vera is her name I may bring Vera but okay objection yeah I may bring her but I'll also bring an iPad

oh god then I respond with this is still the original conversation do you mean an iPad for her to watch or an iPad as a gift to Carl

allowing this to happen not bad I say to him this is still the original conversation this has blown my mind I thought this was two three weeks away

you've put me in such a good mood. Carl says, I did it just for you, rooftop. And I respond, this is why I love you. Okay. Anyway, all right, that's just a point. No response. I'm not sure why we've resumed that.

Is that a pet name thing? No, no, no. Rooftop? No, no. That's what he calls me. Rooftop of the Mountview Hotel, yeah. There is a small interaction on the 19th of October. Midday Friday, right?

Carl, yes, me. Exciting. That's all. Okay. Play on. 21st of October. All good for tomorrow. Carl, all good for tomorrow.

No kids, right? Oh, okay. I have remembered. It has been planned. It has. It's been on your mind. So you're aware that you've needed to follow up the old guide. You know what I think it was?

I think I went to remind you, then saw the above message and went, oh, I better confirm. Okay. I say, got to bring a kid. I'll also bring an iPad, so she'll be fine. Carl, got rid of the O here. It's just God. I say, sorry, bloke.

Okay. That's 5.25 p.m. The night before. Yep. All he said is God. Yep. So he says God and you apologise. Yeah, I apologise for the minor inconvenience.

So are you acknowledging that he's got a point? No, I'm acknowledging that he's being irrational. I'm sorry you're like this. That's pretty much what I meant. Because in law, as I understand it, a lot of companies have policies where they say never apologise because an apology isn't an admission of guilt. Very nice. Thank you. I love having a lawyer that's the judge.

I'm not a lawyer. Really playing both sides. I'm trying to work out which one of you I should get to try on a glove at some point. Right, right, right. Because if the glove don't fit,, right, right. All right. Because if the glove don't fit, you must acquit. Acquit, yes. You must.

Do you know one of the worst t-shirts I ever saw was a guy in Los Angeles that said, if the dick don't fit, you must acquit free Kobe. What? Because he was accused of sexual assault. Kobe? Kobe Bryant Oh right So it was all about He's got a massive dick

Anyway One of the worst things I've ever seen Not helping your case Okay 22nd of October This is on the day 8.22am I'm about to take my son to school

More than three and a half hours away from go time Yeah plenty of time We've woken up to Freedom Day in Melbourne. Yeah, thinking this is great. Used up my babysitter credits. All good. It's a beautiful day outside. The sun is shining. First bit of good weather we've had in a long time. Spirits are

absolutely soaring. Limo's probably already four pints deep by this point. I was blind at 9am. Carl, I asked if we could have another person and they're at capacity, so they said no. So sorry, buddy. All good if you can't make it then. She's going to sit on my lap.

Carl, it's another person. Me. Here's where I get angry. Fuck, man, you tell me this on the day? This is fucked. Carl, you only told me last night you wanted to bring her, so not really my fault. I like that when you act out your own lines, you only told me last night you wanted to bring her, so not really my fault. I like that when you act out your own lines,

you're really going for it, and then, Carl, you're reading out like he's a robot. That's good acting, I thought. Sorry, Danny. I like that you're not reading into what I'm putting out there. No, you're not... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't want to put emotions in your mouth.

Carl saying, you only told me last night you wanted to bring her. I screenshot the message where I said... A classic move. A classic move. Can I say though, listening back to this whole text... No, it's just ag.

Yeah, it's nothing. What's more pass-ag? What's more pass-ag, the screenshot or the reply? You know, now you can go and reply to something. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, I think that's what I did, actually. I did the reply oh can i say they're listening to this whole thread you two are like the biggest couple of fucking nannas like what a sad attempt to catch up together like normally this is one text yeah this whole thing happens in like two one cent one reply done

yes we're about 35 text messages deep here and we still don't know what the fuck's gonna happen but this is classic where it's like you know you're in lockdown

for three months and you're like god I just I just can't wait to get out there hang out with friends again go to the pub and then it's like

something happens the night before I think a lot of people would have this experience like you make a booking and someone gets left out and you're like fuck me

it's really gotta be this hard after three months it's gotta be this stressful I should've gone left out and you're like, fuck me, it's really got to be this hard after three months? It's got to be this stressful? I should have gone early. I shouldn't have gone, oh, God, I'll know better. I should have gone straight with the fuck up. Thank you. Because this could have nipped everything in the bud.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've read too much into the oh, God. If you'd been more emphatic at the start, although to be fair, I did feel as though the message was not clear, but it was clear. Oh, that's great that you walk away having learnt the lesson of I've got to be more aggressive in a scene. Oh, no, what have we done?

Everyone out. I'd actually softened over lockdown. So I'm back, baby, you pack of cunts. Now, just to pick up on Tommy's passive-aggressive point, there is one very passive-aggressive text in amongst all that, and it's Carl's. Oh, is it? Well, to be fair, his is all aggressive.

Danny's aggressive, but yours is passive-aggressive, where you say, well, if you can't come. All good if you can't come. I know. That's like two fucking fingers going. Yeah, someone rushing straight to that is like when you're trying to negotiate or whatever. And someone just immediately is like, guess what? I don't give a fuck if you're there or not.

Straight out of the door. Are we still at about 9 o'clock in the morning here? Yeah, we're still at like 30. Okay. So you've screenshot that or attached the report. I've responded to that with that. And then what's the defendant come back with? Well, I've said, you know, I may have to bring Vera,

so I have to bring an iPad, and I've said this message dated 15th of October. And Carl's pointed out that I only said, oh, may have to bring her. Good point, Carl. Well, and I responded with, but no response from you that that would be an issue until the day. Yep, yep. Are we going to keep going or not? And you said, I assumed common sense would prevail. No response from you that that would be an issue until the day. Yep.

Yep. Are we going to keep going or not? And you said, I assumed common sense would prevail. Good point, Carl. Just drop her at Yarello's Neighbours Whatever. On fucking Freedom Day, where everyone has plans already, and I had plans up until three minutes ago. So, okay, is that the end of the exchange? Unless you want to just go into me a calling.

No, then I said, you know, I used all my babysitting credits yesterday so I could get all my work done so today would be totally free. Been excited about this all week. Let me know if someone pulls out. I'm so fucking disappointed. Yeah, and then...

Just didn't go the insult because I knew he would fucking crack it for that. And then... Oh, I would crack it. Interesting. So, and then what't go the insult because I knew he would fucking crack it for that and then oh I would crack it interesting so and then what was my response after that you didn't respond

there was no response you're right because I read that and went you know what your freedom day is fucked I'm not going to let this fuck my freedom day oh good

I'm so glad I didn't inconvenience fuck so that just fills me with joy I mean it's a real Sophie's Choice isn't it my head's been filled with

McGinley's disappointment too much this is going to wreck my day at the pub with no kids I knew you felt fucking bad I knew you did but then it didn't once I stopped going back and forth I'm like oh fuck this feels a lot better

oh cool yeah you cup mental eye cup mental eye cup mental eye once I stopped going back and forth with you, I'm like, oh, fuck, this feels a lot better. Oh, cool, yeah, you car-mentalite. Car-mentalite. Car-mentalite. It just went, yeah, I'm going to block out this pain for today. Yes. You were just like, okay, so it's like we were leaving from a fire,

and I'm running behind you going, keep the door open, keep the door open, and he slams it shut in my face, and then he gets just like, I'm there screaming behind you going, keep the door open, keep the door open. And he slams it shut in my face. And then he gets, he just like, I'm there screaming, burning to death. And he goes, wow, this is really bringing me down. I think I might put my headphones in. Calmentalising is where you put aside

all the positive things about someone and just focus on what it can't be. That's calmentalising. Really, I've got to do some calmentalising. It's a good name for a festival show, Carl mentalising. Hey, so how did you at this point, so you don't reply, how are you feeling at this stage? Oh, look, that's what I'm saying.

I'm starting to feel bad about it, but I'm like, I can't let this keep happening. The robot feels emotions. Carl, by the way, 26 minutes. You're absolutely right. Sorry for doubting you. Thank you. So when you, so you obviously, you're not replying to Danny.

I'm feeling bad for his choices. That's what I'm feeling bad about. Oh, so you're feeling bad for him? Yeah, yeah. I'm feeling bad for his choices. I'm like, man, I feel bad for him fucking up with the whole babysitter choice. If only he'd gone back and made the right choice. This is like just before this, your lawyer was going,

I really don't think you should take the stand. I think we've got to keep you away from the jury because there's no way they're gonna rule in your flavor once you start talking should i should i draw should i call some witnesses should i call some of the people should i call some witnesses some of the people that were coming to the pub that day who i hit up before all this happened going look mcginley wants to bring his kid what do you think about that and a universal reply of of, fuck no, do not let this happen. Should I bring those witnesses in?

You can, but no. Hang on. So when were you sending these texts out? The night before. You fucking cunt! You absolute dog fuck! Fuck you! Thank you, Levi.

You fucking prick. God, this is the trial of the century. So you've sent a... How many, if you had to guess how many of these text messages... How many of the group did you sample? Three. Three. And they've come back to you with,

no, that's not a good idea. Were these also people with children? People without? Of course not. Does that matter? Do you think that matters? Yes. I think a parent is probably going to be more, yeah, I don't know.

What do you think? As a parent, I mean, to be honest with you, my reaction as a parent would be, because I can't relax and have fun while my son's there. Yes, okay. And now, not that I don't believe he's going to ruin anyone else's day, but it would ruin my day. So I would think to myself, don't take your kid because it's going to ruin your day.

Yes. But your personal enjoyment of it. I've got to be honest, I wouldn't give a fuck if there was a kid around. If they were just doing the thing on the iPad. Especially if they were all in the iPad. And also, let's point out... Yeah, but to be fair, you'd be probably playing their fucking Switch or something. You'd be looking forward to it.

What's wrong with that? I'm just saying, I wouldn't care. She'll tell you all. She finds the best episodes of Bluey. This was also a day starting at 12. I would be out of there by 2. I think that's another factor to be disgusted. Perhaps, but that's information that you should have.

If you say, what about this? What if he comes to you? Mate, look, I cannot. I have to bring the kid. I reckon I'm only going to be there for an hour and a half tops. Does that make you go? That's a very good point. Because that is often the case when people bring their kids.

They're not there still at 12. No, no, no. I had to go pick up my son from school. Hang on. Were there people who only arrived at 1.32 o'clock? No. Lake Cummins. Everyone got there at 12.

Yeah. Everyone got there at 12. Now, once everyone was there at 12. Yeah. Everyone got there at 12. Now, how... Once everyone was there at 12 and everyone was catching up, I imagine it would have been loads of fun. There was great, you know, freedom. Also, can I put this... Before you ask that, can I...

For anyone who doesn't realise this, a bit of context at home. Again, this is the end of lockdown. This is the first time you go to the pub. This is not like a thing where it's like, oh, I've got a bit of a tummy rumble. I mightn't be able to go out tonight to this certain thing or whatever. This is the fucking Olympics of going to the pub this is not like a thing where it's like oh I've got a bit of a tummy rumble I mightn't be able to go out tonight to this certain thing or whatever

this is the fucking Olympics of going to the pub this is like you forget you're a little bit crook or whatever you do whatever you can to make this happen properly

yeah imagine I reckon I could've done anything to get there had I been given any fucking notice so so

so Carl when you got there everyone everyone's very excited. There's ten of you? Eight. Are there eight of you there? It could have had up to ten. No, we had a booking of eight. It's not what the message says. Does it say ten? It says say ten.

It was an actual booking of eight. Just ignoring the numbers for the moment. How big a topic of conversation was the Danny... At the pub. At the moment. How big a topic of conversation was the Danny? At the pub. At the pub. Probably got about 10 to 15 minutes. And what was the consensus in that conversation?

There wasn't a lot of people there going, gee, I wish there was a six-year-old around. As people, look, I don't want to say this. And using a bit of language From maybe Past episodes of this show Let's say this It was a very hospitable

Little catch up as well So it was There was a bit of Hospitality happening There wasn't There was a There was a bit of Going to the toilet

Happening It was I said it was a Warm day before But I misspoke It was actually It was snow snowing. Yes, that's right.

You were hitting the chairlift. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that sort of thing. So there wasn't a lot of people coming back from the toilet going, fuck, I wish there was a great tour. Yeah, you were at the Threadboat Pub hanging out. Yeah, sure, sure. I feel like, do we want to keep talking or do you want a conclusion do we have coke

is that what you want I'm going to get out I'm suddenly distracted I need to score a rail I'm banging for it right now

have you reached a verdict your honour having said that now that I've brought that up I think at least if your

kid was there it wouldn't have been hogging a bag for a couple of hours straight like some other people were. She actually would have been on your wavelength. You would have been best friends for life. Again, that absolutely was not communicated or anything even hinted at beyond the words, oh God.

That's because I wasn't anything to do with that, obviously. I was just observing all of that stuff. How was I to know something like that would happen? I feel like by Carl responding with, oh God, that injected sufficient uncertainty into the scenario that you, Danny, should have been very, very clear with your communications a number of days out because you know Carl Chandler very well. You know Carl Chandler better than most people.

I'm his best friend, apparently. I feel like you should have days out just said very well. You know Carl Timmons better than most people. I'm his best friend apparently. I feel like you should have days out just said to be very very clear. So the onus is on me. Why are you ignoring the previous evidence? Don't argue with the judge. Don't argue with the judge. What the fuck do you think

a court, what happens in a court? Hey, they're arguing. You don't argue with the judge, though. Can I enter a new piece of evidence? I just want to bring out the previous evidence of Carl. Carl responds to texts with abuse a lot of the time or one-word answers that don't go anywhere. You're blaming me again.

You're blaming me again. I feel all of this just speaks to how well and how sort of specifically you understand Carl Chandler, which again tells me that you should have been. Yes. Thank you. I mean, if you know Carl Chandler well, you know that this shit needs to be locked away well and truly, in writing, done and dusted with no room for ambiguity before the day. Thank you.

So are we ignoring his actions here? Could he have maybe communicated very well? Considering he's a great communicator. We talked about that. You get off stage, he yells at at you he is very clear when it needs what didn't you understand from that message at 8 35 in the morning yeah that's the issue is you could have took 12 hours earlier we would have had a very different story right now i think it is it is a mitigating factor like carl could have said on day one, no fucking kids. He could have responded with that.

Absolutely. What do I do? Do I put out a message on the first day of organising going no shitting in your own mouth when we get to the pubs. No throwing yourself off the fucking second story. All of these very obvious things. After three months, probably yeah.

Do I need to point out every obvious thing in the world Before we do anything I mean that is common With weddings and stuff People will put on the invite Leave your kids at home You know

With parties and stuff That people are having They'll make that pretty clear Yeah And also When you Started messaging Other people

On the night before Yes To roll them up To get them Yes To respond to Turning them off against him them. Yes. Hey, yeah. Hey, he's turning the mob against him. You could have gone

back to him that night just to confirm. Would have been absolutely acceptable. I could have organised something. It was absolutely hypothetical. It was just me saying, are you happy with this?

Because I'm happy with whatever you're happy with. Oh, you were not. That's what I was going... Now, that's bullshit. Now, that's bullshit. Now, I have a piece of evidence To enter in here

That's a bit of a bombshell Piece of evidence Now I'm sorry to I'm sorry to tell Tails out of school However this did come up On the episode last week So it is at this point

A matter of public record I don't feel like I'm You know Betraying any state secrets here You never contacted the pub To ask if you could I fucking knew it I fucking knew it I I fucking knew it.

I'll say no, no, no. That's not quite right. It is actually not quite right. I did contact the pub and I did look, to be fair. And they said we love Vera. Get her down. She's a fucking piss rat. She's awesome. We've got a kids club.

We've just built a ball pit. We've got a big sand pit and set up today We've just built a ball pit Just for this scenario We've got a big sand pit And it's all full of white sand So She'll be a nightmare on the way home But she'll be pretty busy when she's here Yeah So I did contact them

Look to be fair The message did go something along the lines of I've got I've got a person who wants to come on As part of the eight people They now want to bring their child Now Now Now Just let me know if this is not on I've got a person who wants to come on as part of the eight people. They now want to bring their child. Now.

Now. Now. Just let me know if this is not on, and I heavily suspect it is not on. Please confirm for me that it is not on and not possible. Right. Just give me the message. Really leading them. That's leading them.

Just give me the email back. Anyway, they didn't reply until until as we walked in the door, all separately, the people who came along to the pub, someone walked in and checked in under our name, under the name of the party, and they go, oh, are you, one of you blokes bringing your kid or something? And they go, no, I don't think so anymore. And they go, oh, okay.

And then right when they did that they then emailed me to go oh sorry we forgot too late i guess you your mate's kids probably here anyway okay right yeah so it would have been fine this is like you've emailed them and gone can you just send me a reply to this email that literally just says no so that i can screenshot that and send it to my friends yes but are you saying the pub was actually fine with the kid? I didn't say that. I didn't say that. Yes. No. No, but the evidence suggests they were.

No, no, no, no. They just didn't reply until way later on. They didn't say yes or no. They just asked. But they said the kid's probably here anyway, whatever. Well, it wouldn't have been an issue. From the point of view of the pub, it wouldn't have been an issue. I didn't see any kid there apart from the one that was sitting completely opposite us.

Apart from the one where you all bought out gear off him. There was, look, I will admit there was a point where there was a couple sitting opposite the whole group and they

had a little kid that was like being very cute and we're like, oh, it would have been cool to have a kid here actually. This is pretty cute. This is pretty fun.

This is pretty fun. We were getting the kid to do tricks and, actually. This is pretty cute. This is pretty fun. This is pretty fun. We were getting the kid to do tricks and stuff. It was great, actually. It was actually pretty fun. Surely the verdict is horrible thing to do to a friend. No, I'm technically correct. You can't judge me on my character. You can judge on the event, on the decision.

I feel like this is OJ going away for stealing his own sporting memorabilia. It's like we're fucking getting you for something. Maybe it's not this, but it's something else. Look, you can get the great Al Capone of comedy for tax evasion, maybe. But not for killing anyone. There's two issues here, and you're leaning on the wrong one, unfortunately. Yes. One issue is whether or not the pub would have your kid.

And it seems they probably would have. And that's what you're leaning on. No, I'm leaning on... But really, that's kind of irrelevant because it's whether or not Carl wanted the kid there with... So I lean on lack of communication. Like, seriously, oh God is not enough to suggest I needed to take any different action.

If you had emailed me and gone, I'm going to kill my family tonight, and me going, oh God, it's like, well, you didn't tell me not to. I put that into evidence. You did it. What are you walking away from that message and then not speaking to him for another 10 days until the night before? Hey, I'm coming around tomorrow. Did you end up killing the family or not?

I messaged the pub. How much food do I need to bring not I messaged the pub how much food do I need to bring I messaged the pub to see can you can you tell him not to do it

or yeah look I was going to the pub for the wake is this too late to ask if he should kill someone or not there's something else

I'd like to know here when you're saying you messaged the other attendees to see how they would feel about it now you said you only

messaged like three of them. Yes. Which seems to me to be a strange number of people to focus on. And suggests that maybe you started getting the responses that you didn't really want. No, no. And went, if I poll everyone here, maybe the numbers aren't going to stack up in my favour.

No, no, I think it was more the other way. I'll pick the three that I think I'm going to get the right response from. We don't need to message anyone else. So, Milan. Quite possibly. Okay, well, I mean, his vote message anyone else. Milan. Quite possibly. Okay, well, I mean, his vote does not count. Are everyone who was at that lunch, are you all in a WhatsApp group together?

No, no, no. Because it could have been as simple as a message to the WhatsApp group. No, I know. And I know, but I did think maybe people would be swayed by being asked in front of other people. So tactically, I went individually. Jesus. So he's gone out of his way to just skew the results.

Carl's like the Scientologist. Split them up so that they can't be like a unified client. This is the Donald Trump of pub gatherings. I haven't done anything technically wrong. I'm still getting their answers. I didn't skew their answers. I haven't done anything technically wrong I'm still getting their answers I didn't skew their answers I didn't You did All three of them said absolutely not

Yes Okay Yeah You could have texted me I did And just said Yeah the morning of 12 hours earlier

Would have been fine Totally acceptable I said God to you twice in the previous week Okay What does that say? Do we have to look up the definition of God here? You invoking a deity

does not create some social contract. I do, you know, look, you're both a little bit responsible here, as I said. Me a little bit less. Fucking nannies on your text message. But I feel in the circumstances when you're taking a kid on your text message. Maybe a little bit less of an idea. But I feel in the circumstances,

when you're taking a kid somewhere, I feel like this thing's got to be, particularly when you're dealing with this type of character, Danny McGinley, this Carl Chandler type character, that this shit's just got to be locked. I disagree. I'm a very Carl Chandler type character. Of all the people I know.

Carl Chandler is famous, and my favourite thing about him is his bluntness. And therefore I thought if this was going to be... I was a nice guy once. Guilty. Yes, I'm guilty of being a nice guy. Well, yeah. You guys need to know what happened after that event, by the way.

The rest of my... Because we've got an eyewitness as well. What happened after that? Of me? look at the shock in Danny McGinley's eyes this is just this is like a court case where it's like

someone's died and it's kind of they're trying to work out was it an accident or was this person at fault it's kind of like meeting in the middle and the closing statements

are like look ultimately it really doesn't matter what's happened here is a tragedy it's like a few less pints being drunk at a certain pub.

You hate to hear about it. At the end of the day, this is just sad. No pointing the finger at who's in the wrong is really going to take away from the fact that this is just a tragedy. Yeah, we can point fingers all day, but it's not going to bring her back. And by her, the good time you would have had with us. Yes, yeah, that's devastating. This is absolutely devastating.

What age are you going to play this to your daughter at, by the way, Danny? This is her lasting legacy now. I know. She'll find this. Hey, so what's your postscript, Danny McGinley? I then, I go out with my daughter anyway because, you know, it's Freedom Day. We can do this. It's Friday morning.

It's 9am. You've taken your son to school. Taken my son to school. Got a text on the way to that from a mate saying, do you want to come over? I've got a barbecue. Go on. I'm like, oh sweet, I've got something to do.

Brilliant. Can I leave my kid at the barbecue and then go to the pub? Geez, if they were geographically closer, that could have been a good option. Damn it, that's a really smart idea. Damn it. Imagine someone saying that to you on a friend day. Yeah, that sounds awesome.

I've been looking for some way to dump my kids. I've no interest in hanging out with you. Have you got one extra sausage? So then, I mean, what did I do? We went to the park for a bit. I then walked up and down High Street a bit, just having a bit of fun. There was all these people queuing up for haircuts

because bar was first open. I was just taking my hat off going, great day to be bald, just having a bit of fun. There was all these people queuing up for haircuts. Yep. Because bar was first open. I was just taking my hat off going, great day to be bald, gentlemen. All right, you're doing some gear. That was some fun entertainment for a bit. Bounce back, yep. Still got your sense of humour. Then texted my mate who's a- Sad clown, the classic sad clown.

Right there, yeah. Texted my mate who's a- The doctor. I am Danny McGinley. Texted my mate who's a firefighter And I'll just Say are you working today And he goes No I'm going to the pub And I go

Oh can we Get in I just want to have A beer in a pub With that And he goes I think so We'll get in

So we go to Is this where people saw me At Goldie's Quite potentially Yeah alright I'll say what happened Great venue Where's Goldie's

Goldie's is the Old Leinster Arms They've renamed it now Oh yeah right So then I Go into Goldies. Where Chopper Reed used to drink. That's right.

Oh, bring your kid along to there. Cool. So we go in and we go, look, we've got, he says, I've got two extra. Is that all right? They go, you can only stay 20 minutes. Oh. That's fine. That's fine.

I just want one beer. What a pack of cunts. What a pack of cunts. Let them in. So we go in. Let these guys in. Come on, guys. This is leading. I don't even know we go in? Let these guys in. Come on, guys. This is leading.

I don't even know what this... We've surveyed everyone. We've asked Chopper, and he said it's not okay. Chopper's actually just killed two people, so you can come in. You can come in now. There's a bit of blood too, but there's a bit of room out the back. I've listened to your story, Danny. I've lent you my ear, and I think it's a heartbreaking tale

come on in the sad thing is the real Chopper Reed died so it's actually just Heath Franklin pretending to serve people in there go in we've got 20 minutes fine

you have to order at the table on the phone order three beers 20 minutes later the beers haven't arrived they go you get out. Oh no! This is devastating.

Oh, this is so good. I'm not the biggest cunt in this day. Fucking great. No, no, you still absolutely are by a country mile. What a wonderful twist. So does that mean the people who came in after you got your beers? The two guys who had the original booking drank my beer and sent me a photo of them. Had you you got your beers? Yeah, the two guys who had the original booking drank my beer. Oh, what?

And sent me a photo of them. Had you paid for the beers? Yes. Oh, my goodness. This is devastating. That is salt in your wounds. What a day. Were you just praying for another lockdown by this stage?

Then I'm like the angriest I've been in a long time. This is a rough Thursday. I think we got off easy in Richmond. There could have been a drive-by at this stage. But after that, you could have just landed at the window with your daughter. I would not be dealing well in this. I was not.

And so I walked out with my daughter and as I'm leaving, I go, this is really disappointing. And the lady went, we'll make a booking next time. Yes! Damn! And I was like,

oh, this takes every fiber of my self-control. Yes. Because that's like day one back at the pub, it's like no matter how bad the service is after a lockdown, it's like you just can't say anything. You can't kick off. No. Doesn't matter how long the food's taken. Doesn't matter if the beer's warm or the wrong thing or whatever.

They're just setting up again. They're having a tough time of it. You can't kick off. But it sounds like you've done that. I walked out and made a sarcastic comment because I didn't get to drink the beers I'd paid for 20 minutes earlier. Hey, did you buy two beers? Three.

There was three of us. One for you and two for Vera. Is that right? Yeah. Did Vera get a soft drink in that time? Yeah, we ordered an apple juice, but it also didn't arrive. That didn't arrive either. And so now you're out. And what is it now, like midday or something?

Now it's like 1.30. Hang on, so where did you, what's your Danny story? So this, we got a bit of, you know, it's a small town. There's a lot of dumb dumb listeners out there. There was a little spotted incident. It's a small town. We had a listener. It's a small town of five million people.

Well, this is how small it is The only other person I interacted with Was the guy at Dan Murphy's Because I grabbed a six pack going to the beers Oh my god now you're just drinking in a park No I went to the mate's barbecue Where admittedly no one else was there So it was just me and him No dumb dumb listener

Hot gossip at lunchtime last Friday I went to lunch at the pub and lo and behold, Danny McGinley was there with a small child, colouring books all over the table. You made the right choice, Carl Chandler. Yes. Colouring in books. Well, yeah, because you bring activities with your kids. Oh, right. So that is that.

And iPad and other things so they don't annoy the grown-ups I like how you're rejoicing like yes a stranger is on my side doesn't matter that my friend is deeply

deeply upset no as long as I win this argument you no way hey we've that's true

coloring books oh my god outrageous you know what we should have done for this episode we should have randomly selected 15 listeners

of the podcast to be the jury. And then they listened to the closing statements and then we sequestered them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Until they could reach you. Can we get normal people, not listeners of this podcast? Oh, no. Now we need the listeners of this podcast because I've got a feeling we're going to win this one.

Hang on, hang on. Can we get six listeners of Dumb Dumb Club and six listeners of They Came to Play? That's not bad. Are you going to get another couple of listeners? Yeah, where are we getting the other two listeners from? Oh, we'll go eight and four. Oh, my God. So, yeah, but overall, okay, let's, you know,

I hope that there's no ill will between you two. No, no, no. What have we learnt Moving forward What do we know Danny McGinley moving forward What do we know I'm now going to meticulously annoy Carl Chandler

With very detailed questions About every social outing And what rules are allowed Yes and I think that's good fun. Creating a bit of good fun for you. Taking the friendship to a whole new level. Yeah, just really, because you know how much that's going to fuck him off. And Carl, what's your takeaway from all of this?

Well, I can see this is all hinged on me not being clear. I was, again, too nice of a guy. I'm going to cut that out from my personality. If I'm going to accuse myself of anything, it's because I'm too nice. I was too wishy-washy. I was too nice to him. I've made a mistake by doing that.

I'll be very violently clear from now on. This is the worst part. When you're there Hulk raging at everything, you just know the worst part is Carl is not going to grow as a human. He couldn't care less. No, and what's more, normally you'd cut that cancer out of your life,

but I need him for work. And didn't you actually say that on the pod or at the pub, just going, oh, this could be the end of our friendship. Oh, well, he's going to come crawling back. You are the worst scabby boss ever. We need a union. I'm going to call the MEW.

If you're in this position, if you're in Danny's position, what are you doing? Are you seeking more clarification or are you being like, I've said I'm probably going to have to bring the kid and that's cool? If that was me, I just would have been super clear from day one. Lemo also has access to a nanny. If that was me I would just Would have been super clear From day one Okay Or Or Or

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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Always beg for forgiveness than ask permission. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I would... Look, potential... I would either make it very clear from the start or I'd just turn up with the kid and just say...

That's because if your defence is it's not that big of an issue, then it's like, surely if it's not that big of an issue, I didn't even need to flag it in advance. Having said that, I can't have fun with him there anyway. Right. Because I'm distracted the whole time. Yeah, you were shocking on that episode. Making sure he's happy and busy and whatever else.

Yeah, yeah. My kid is wearing... Making sure people aren't spilling cocaine in front of him. Yeah, Milan was there. Your kid could have died. I basically saved your kid's life You know Putting a shot into a kid

Like he kills us with shots Let alone with your kid Who's as big as a fucking shot She's got Ukrainian heritage She can handle it I do think Yeah I don't know where I sit I think you should have

I think you definitely Could have communicated More explicitly Hey it's not It's not okay to bring the kid Let's just keep this As a fellas only thing. But Danny, also, I will say, again, you're stressing constantly

that you're such good friends with Carl Chandler. You've known him a long time. You also know that this is a man who is in a position where he can basically, when life is normal, he is in the position where he's able to just drop his family and go to Thailand willingly whenever he wants. So all these concerns of needing to find a babysitter and having to have the kid around and all this kind of stuff,

those kinds of things just don't apply. And you should know that. The amount of stuff isn't in his headspace. I also should know that Limo wasn't a good judge because when I first came round to your place to record, they came to play after lockdown. I said to you, oh, where's the family? You go, oh, no, my wife now goes into the office to work

and because I'm an essential worker, my kid's been going to kinder this whole time. Yes. And by the way, the nanny's picking him up today. You have lost. There is no way you could complain about lockdown. I love this. You don't get to learn lessons off the judge.

The judge is the judge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's entitled to make money. He was five minutes late and he came the judge. The judge is the judge. Yeah, he's entitled to make money. He was five minutes late and he came in with a croissant from Loon. He's flexing on all of it. I call a mistrial. OJ doesn't look up at Judge Ito and go, Oh, well, I've learned that when he was a teenager, he... No, no, it doesn't matter.

This happens all the time. It doesn't matter what happens in the backstory of Judge Ito. What happens is the judge when he put on matter what happens in the backstory of Judge Ito. What happens is the judgment he put onto you. That would be good, though. The judge should have to just give like a 20-minute spiel about their backstory and stuff so you can go, well, you know, do I really respect this guy's ruling? To quote the great legal mind Lionel Hutz,

this judge has sort of had it in for me since I kind of ran over his dog. Replace the word kind of with repeatedly and the word dog with son. So what you're trying to say is next time there's a gig where Carl's caught out, he's like come from the park last minute or something and he's having to be up there in shorts

and you're there, you've got a spare pair of jeans in the backpack. Yes. They're not being offered up. No, I'm going to get Olly Clark's shitted jeans. Yes. Okay. big callback what I did like is on in the lead up to this I like how

you weren't contaminating we didn't have any conversation about this since back then that's right you've done a gig for me since then we didn't speak of it no well I would have

but we were never alone right yeah I made sure of that yeah Tommy Tommy booked you for this podcast. Yeah. And even in between then, when this pod came out and it got back to you that we'd been talking about it or whatever, what I heard was you called Mike Goldstein.

I did, yes. You called Tommy. Yeah. Didn't call me. You called Mike Goldstein. Mike Goldstein hit me up and goes, McGinley's just fucking rang me about the podcast. I'm like, oh, that's funny.

He goes, and he was asking, he said, what did you say about me? And he goes, just listen to the podcast. And you go, no. DMing Andy Lee. Mate, can I have your phone number? I'm just going to call you about something. Well, I did ring Tommy, and I believe the main question was, how was I misrepresented in this pod? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And again, you made it very clear to me, I don ring Tommy and I believe the main question was, how was I misrepresented in this pod?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And again, you made it very clear to me, I don't want to listen. I will not be listening to the episode. It's one thing to say it to Mike, but it's like, come on, mate. That's my fucking livelihood. Have you been listening to us? Have you been listening to us right now? It's like, do yourself a favour, mate.

It was a good episode. You want to come in and defend yourself against you don't know what. Hey, guys, we're going to have to veer as Danny's daughter veers out in the car. Yeah, of course. And you can't leave them in there for much longer than an hour, I believe. The inspectors will be on. Well, you're not veering. Yoko's out in the car trying to break us up.

Yoko has broken up your friendship. Classic Yoko. Yoko McGinley. All trying to break us up. Yoko has broken up your friendship. Classic Yoko. Yoko McGinley. All right. Well, thanks, Danny. Thanks, Limo, for joining us. Thank you. Check out They Came to Play, you guys' podcast.

Yes. Anything else to play? Well, if you're in Adelaide, I'm doing SAFM Breakfast at the moment. So tune into that on weekday mornings. And I'm doing a play in January. Okay. Big play goes on this podcast. Well I'm doing a play in January. Okay. Big play goes on this podcast. Well, you know, it's very nerdy.

It's called Shakespeare Aliens, and it is the film Aliens done as a Shakespearean tragedy. And what's Yoko playing? She's playing Newt, the little kid. Right, right, right. All right, guys. Check all that stuff out. Thanks very much for listening, and we'll see you next time.

See you, mate. Case dismissed. Chandler innocent. And they've done it again. Oh, I hope you liked the crux of that argument because that's all you got for an hour. Yeah. I hope you didn't want anything else. A lot of fun.

Bit of fun. All squared up. I've done that for a while, an immediate follow-up, you know, week after week, week to week. Little episode. Yeah, bit of fun. Like we said at the top, 500th episode, all of a sudden it's come from nowhere and it's happening.

It's in, what, two months' time from recording of this episode. January the 15th in Melbourne, the 500th episode. You've been hearing about it for two years it's come from nowhere after two years you may have seen us on the project

two years ago plugging it and that's why you got into this this podcast I wonder if we could we should see if we can get that rerun in the lead up to the to the gig

I was thinking about it the other day that's our little hook maybe we can hit up the project try and get on again just to replug it not bad have a bit of do a bit within the segment where we just sort of rub our chins and look up in the air and reminisce and it goes all wavy and then it goes back to the clip show mid-interview yeah yeah that's pretty good yeah yeah well they could use that um when they you

know when when you when they introduce when they throw to someone on the project they have like a little bit of vision of you know thing And so when it's a standup, it'll be clips of them on stage or whatever. Yes. In our vision for our interview, they play a clip of last year's interview or two years ago's interview. To be fair, I mean,

that's about the only time we've been on TV. So yeah, that's our, yeah, yeah, yeah. You may have seen us on the project. Here we are.

It's the project. Yep. And they can just kind of do it, dissolve into us sitting there and you can kind of see how we've aged in the two years since we did the interview. A bit of before and after plastic surgery. Yes, yes. So that's happening January 15th

on a Saturday night. Like you said, not too many tickets left. Look, more importantly, double check you've got tickets because I got told that there's a lot of this happening at the moment where people bought tickets two years ago and then just forget they've bought them.

Yep, yep, yep. Or have broken up with their partner. The partner had them. Yeah, or have just decided they fucking hate this show in the last two years. I mean, I would love to hear that. That would be a good thing to talk about in the actual gig is like, how has your life changed since you bought these tickets? There'd be people that all of a sudden, like they've brought a child into the world unexpectedly,

so they've had to organise a babysitter. Probably not the sort of thing that they would frivolously buy a ticket to. Actually, hit us up, littledumbdumbclub at gmail.com or in the social medias. We're on all of them, including TikTok. No, we're not TikTok. We want to find a person whose life has changed the most significantly since the 500th episode

and on sale. Hopefully worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that's funnier. We put the poster up, kind of like, you know, re-promoting it again now that we're confident that it will happen in January. And I saw someone commented going, hey, I have a ticket to the 500th episode. Do I need to buy a ticket to this again?

It's like this. No, this is, you know how you never went to buy a ticket to this again it's like this no this is you know how you never went to that event that you have the ticket for yeah this is just actually that so i do like that thing that's that's unlike most people that have you know in that situation most people are just like give me the fucking money back from that thing they're like oh well i just have surrendered that money to you do i buy another ticket for exactly the same thing and hopefully this one happens yep Yep, fingers crossed. Yeah, so double check you've got your tickets.

Get in touch with that ex. Ration the ticket off them. That's what I'd like to hear too. People who it's been, it's now quite hard for them to get access to this gig because they have to have a very unpleasant conversation with someone they did the dirty on. Even better, the two exes reunite for the show

because they bought the tickets two years ago. They've broken up. Neither of them can find one single friend that likes this podcast. We're up there and it's like every second seat is empty because it's just all couples that have split up and did not want to be in the show together. I hate it. I kind of love it. I don't want that. I don't want that.

I don't want that. But there are tickets are um tickets left because you know fair enough some people got refunds at the time or whatever because they they thought they they it wasn't going to happen or they want their money back they couldn't make the new date well sucked in because there's now been four other new dates since then yep so um yeah go and get your it is going to happen believe it there are some some non-true believers out there it is actually going to happen so um scoop up those are some non-true believers out there. It is actually going to happen. So scoop up those tickets and let's sell this MF-er out.

Yep. And also coming up before that, on Saturday, December the 11th, we have the live show in Heathcote. Now that sold out. Sold out immediately. Quite quickly, yes. Immediately, same day, sold out, including the Milan bus tour. That all sold out.

Now, there are plenty of people that missed out and were like, oh. So, look, we need to find out if we can fit any more people in. I need to sort of find that out with the venue. The venue really haven't been in this situation before. I don't think they really know how many people they can fit in there. So, it's a bit of a guesstimate at the moment. So, look, if I can confirm some more seats, we'll put a handful of seats. Because embarrassingly for you guys out there,

some people literally live very close by to the gig. Missed out? Just missed out. Yeah, the venue are like, the guy that comes up and does diesel covers usually gets about 20 people. And that's us. That's the most we've ever had out the back there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, Schnitty Night gets about 40. You guys are twice as good as schnitty night yeah this is amazing yeah well actually no i wouldn't go that far yeah yeah so we're gonna find that out right now we're gonna find that out and uh hopefully look we can cram a few more in and all that sort of stuff but um we'll do our best we'll do our best best. So keep on the socials for that. We'll do our best to sneak a few more in. Very much looking forward to that. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. Then, of course, like in the new year, we'll keep an eye on everything

because we'll be – now that we're allowed to go into states, different states, we'll be rescheduling. We'll be doing new dates, new cities, new shows. We can't wait to get out there and pound the pavement and uh perform for a bunch of you little fucks that have been uh either sitting inside for a long time or watching your own dog shit fucking comedians in your dog shit states for a long time yes yeah yep so we're looking at you melbourne yeah yeah we're gonna bring our dog shit interstate comedy to you.

Yep. Of course, as we mentioned at the top of the show, this show is on Patreon. Patreon.com slash LittleDumbDumbClub is where you can go and you can get two bonus episodes every week with great special guests and lots of fun behind the paywall. So get on there if you haven't already, but you also, on top of the extra content,

you go into the draw to get your little name read out at the end of an episode of podcasting's The Little Dumb Dumb Club. And that's what we're going to do right now, guys. Turn on the old UTA, spit some name outs, and riff away. Let's do the second cab off the rank this week, just for something different. Okay. Thank you very much to Patreon subscriber Dylan Harrison Smith. Bit of hyphenating.

The old hyphenation. Straight. Maybe I should have gone first cab off the rank. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just to prepare us. Yeah, you don't want to go straight into a hyphenated name. A hyphenated name almost counts as two cabs off the rank, surely. Yeah, they're getting value for money with this one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We should be charging them twice as much. Both sides of the family coming together and getting to listen to themselves, get read out on the little dum-dum club. We should say from now on, no hyphenated names. You've got to pay double if you want a hyphenated name. No, you know what we should do from now on is hyphenated names you gotta pay you gotta pay double if you want to if you want a hyphenated name no you know what we should do from now on is we decide what their new name is because it's like you know i kind of look at this name and go oh well they clearly couldn't decide which name to take so we'll go with both which name should they take harrison

or smith should they should this guy be dylan harrison or dylan smith i can see how this has come up though because smith go, bit of a dull last name. You feel like you kind of you know, but then Harrison like Dylan Harrison has kind of like a funny sound to it. Do you think there was the Smith side of the family, like they were going to go with Dylan Harrison

and they're like, no, no, no, no, include Smith. We don't want the Smith lineage to die out. Yeah, good point. Good point. Yeah. That is, yeah, I mean, presumably that's what was going on. The mother or the father just fighting vehemently.

The last Smith, Dylan Smith, the last Smith on earth. Exactly. And the Harrison just being like, is this person for fucking real? How do you have this conversation of you've got a shit last name? Are you allowed to do this? Are you allowed to sort of like say this guy dylan harrison smith he's been he's been lumbered with the double name yeah he's gone through that then he's he's had the kid he's had a kid then gone look you don't need to be a harrison smith your choice you pick one of them uh yeah i see what you're saying. So, like, you mean Dilla... So, yeah, he receives the hyphenated name. He cops the hyphen all of his life.

Then he gets married. He goes, I don't want my son to go on like this. Or the same thing could just happen when he gets married. So he gets married and it's like, you know, she's going to take the surname. Yeah. But she's like, what if I just take everything before the hyphen? I'll just be Mrs. Harrison. I don't need to be Mrs. Harrison Smith.

What about, no, I mean, my parents don't want my name to die out either. I'm an only child. So can we just whack their surname on the end of Harrison Smith? Harrison Smith Jones. Harrison Smith Jones. I wonder if there are any of them hyphenated where they're both incredibly common names. Yeah. Smith-Jones.

Smith-Jones would be. There must be a few of them out there coming together because then that's a dispute where it's like they're both dull surnames. Neither of us really has the right to claim that the other one should win out. Yeah. Let's actually make it exciting for the first time in our lives. Yes. Smith-Jones is actually the most exciting it's ever going to get.

Smith Jones is pretty cool. Yeah. I don't mind it. The most boring hyphenated name of all time, technically. Yeah, but you know, they come together. There's a little bit more going on all of a sudden. Not amazingly so, but you know. It's something.

It's kind of from a four to a five. Would you rather be a Smith or a Jones? Jones. Oh. Well, Carl Jones or Carl Smith. Carl. Oh. Well, Carl Jones or Carl Smith. Carl. Oh, God. I think maybe Jones.

I think I'd pick Jones. Yeah. Just feels a bit more substance. Tommy Lee Jones. Oh. Changed my middle name to Lee after changing my surname to Jones. That's Pammy's ex marries... I don't know.

Who's famous for the last name Jones? Who's a famous Jones? Oh, Tommy Lee Jones. Tommy Lee Jones. Yeah. If Tommy Lee married Tommy Lee Jones, he would be Tommy Lee Jones. Tommy Lee. Tommy Lee Lee Jones.

Not... Imagine Tommy Lee Jones getting bummed on the speedboat by Tommy Lee.. Not, uh, gotta say. Imagine Tommy Lee Jones getting bummed on the speedboat by Tommy Lee. Yes, yes. That would be good. Bit of a shame we're not getting, uh, he seems to have, he seems to be really winding down, that guy. Who? Tommy Lee Jones.

Yeah, oh, he's an old man, but. Yeah. I mean. But, a shame. I watched, uh, No Country for Old Men not that long ago. Yeah. And, uh, he's, he's fucking great. I haven't watched that for a while. I love No Country for Old Men not that long ago. And he's fucking great. I haven't watched that for a while.

I love the bit of TLJ. Maybe he's one of those guys where, who are these guys? Did Gene Hackman die or is he just old, super old? There's a few of those guys. Like Jack Nicholson, all these people you think are going to live forever. If they don't die when they're 70 or whatever, if they keep kicking on into their 70s and 80s, you just don't see them on movies anymore and you don't hear anything about them because they're 70 or whatever, if they keep kicking on into their 70s and 80s, you just don't see them on movies anymore

and you don't hear anything about them because they're just old dudes. Like Sean Connery never made a movie for bloody 20 years or something. That's true. Nicholson got cited publicly for the first time in like two years recently. Oh, really?

Because of the Lakers. Yeah. The LA Lakers. They're just old dudes that no one wants to really see on screen anymore. And they go, oh, whatever happened to him? It's like there's not a lot of cases

for like sort of slimy old devil looking men that are now 85 years old that might they'll look like they're gonna fuck a 25 year old well i mean if you were doing like a dodgy like a kind of biopic kind of thing that's very much playing into like what's happening at the moment like i don't know if you saw bombshell a couple of years ago about like the Fox News, the dodgy guy that ran that. Roger Ailes. Yeah, it's John Lithgow in a fat suit, just really perving it up and doing a great job.

And it looks like he's having a lot of fun, just getting to sit there while he gets a girl to do a twirl in front of him before hiring her for a newsreader job and just sitting there going, oh, yeah, that's good. before hiring her for a newsreader job and just sitting there going, oh, yeah, that's good. But also... So if you wheeled out Nicholson,

I think he must be pretty out of it at this point. Yes, I think that might be a complaint. But you don't even need to get him to remember it. I mean, surely he's such an old dude that I think that kind of stuff would come pretty naturally to him. Right. So if you had him play like...

If you had him in like a Weinstein biopic style thing where it's like, check out this lecherous cunt. Yeah. And then you just get, like, a hot young woman in front of him and just let him go. I also do find it funny when people are like, oh, where are they? It's like, man, they're 80. Yeah. Let them not work.

They're 80. They've been working their entire life. Yeah. Like, he went, the departed's, like, a little while ago now, but he's, like, pretty, you know, he's, like, pretty old than that. He's, like, past average retirement age in that. yeah look so he is he 80 i'm gonna check i think he's 84 oh okay let's have a look there's not you know and look whether this is you've nailed it he's 84 uh born in neptune city fuck that's wow there's a photo of him recently that went around of him when he's like 30 and it's like you know he's like quite a he's a really good looking guy it's weird seeing him so young it's like the photo credit is

like this was taken in 1969 it's like jesus christ yeah yeah he's a young man in 1969 oh yeah there is old his son ray his son ray doesn't look too old. I mean, look. Yeah, 29. Oh. Fuck. So he had a kid when he was 53, 55. Wow. 55. Jack. He's 55. Fuck.

Kid's a good looking guy. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Man. Yeah, no. He's looking his age. He's not too bad. He's getting out to check out the Lakers and presumably no idea what's happening on the court.

Well, I don't know. Maybe. Maybe. Hard to know. He actually looks... You know what he looks like? He actually looks... I'll show you this picture of him.

He looks... He now looks like what he did in the final scene of The Shining when he's frozen in ice all fucked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He actually looks like him. This is my son, Ray. He looks like he's in the ice outside the maze in The Shining. Funny.

Anyway. I like Big Jack. Yeah, Vale's one of the great... I don't know whether he's a great actor or just a great personality that you like to see on screen. Not losing himself in the role, just you watching Jack Nicholson in a movie over and over again. Yeah, yeah. Even stuff he's in, like I watched, fuck, what's it called? One of the romantic comedies that was like of the same era.

Not It's Complicated. As good as it gets. No. It's the same person who made It's Complicated, I think. It's Complicated is Baldwin. Oh, the one where he About Schmidt Or no No no no

Ah fuck It's got a similarly Like Who's he with Wishy washy name Is it It's complicated Is it with

Is it him and Diane Keaton Ah yeah And he's like Dating this young girl At the start And then starts falling For the mum Even something like that

Like pretty disposable Rom-com That genre for a couple of like pretty disposable rom-com. That genre for a couple of years was like rom-coms for old cunts. Yeah, yeah. And there was like another one with Alec Baldwin. But...

Chinatown, that's it. Yeah. Even stuff like that where it's like... Something's got to give. Something's got to give. That's the one. Stop screaming at the podcast, guys.

Pretty disposable film, but you're having a fucking great time because you're watching... You're watching Jack fall in love. There you go. He hasn't been in a movie since. A movie called How Do You Know? But I thought The Bucket List was his last movie. Maybe it was released later.

Oh, really? I thought Departed was his last. No. How Do You Know? Yeah, with a writer-director, James L. Brooks, Reese Witherspoon, Owen Wilson, Paul Rudd and Jack Nicholson. Real shame he doesn't try and just slip one last one in. Even just a little cameo.

A little cameo. Just one scene. A little cameo. Going in, going, this is the last bit of cinema. What if he pops up in the new Jackass movie? Yeah, yeah. And that's his final appearance. And that's how he dies as well.

That's great. If you're an old man actor and you go, I want to give the world, I want my last role to be something great and fun and like a great last role. Not just like this happened to be the last thing I did. And look, I'm getting near the end anyway. I don't want to die in my sleep surrounded by friends and family. I want to be shot out of a diarrhea cannon. Yep, absolutely.

Love it. Just shot at the Hollywood sign in a diarrhea cannon, through the O, into the fucking hill, splat. Hi, I'm Jack Nicholson, and this is the Naked Rodeo. Great. I love it. I love it. One of the better ideas we've ever come up with on this show. Great. I love it. I love it. One of the better ideas we've ever come up with on this show.

Great. Thanks, Dylan, for inspiring it. Pick a lane, cunt. Thank you very much to Patreon subscriber Ella Moorhead. Ooh. M-O-O-R-H-E-A-D. Now, this is a tough surname for a young woman, I imagine. You think so?

Yeah. Oh, of course. Yeah, right. Sorry. Yeah. At a certain age. She should be the new receptionist to James Bond instead of Miss Moneypenny. Yes.

Miss Moorhead. Miss Moorhead. And just see James Bond walking in going, Miss Moorhead, don't mind if I do. Yes. Classic. I prefer you over your if I do. Yes. Classic. Prefer you over your frigid sister. Yeah.

Less head. Or cousin, I should say. Yeah. But yes, that would be one that would avoid detection up until a certain age. Yes. But then I imagine, what do you reckon? 14, 15?

Everything changes. Oh, look. Maybe even younger these days. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not keeping touch with the schoolyard much these days. I don't know what they're aware of and what they're not. Yeah, you're right. Probably onto it at like 11.

Yes, but Ella, look, Moorhead, you know, wouldn't be looking forward to having a daughter and anything and bestowing that name. It could do with a hyphen, to be honest. I'm starting to see what the hyphens are for now. Yes. Well, I mean, if anything, the hyphen's just accentuating it. We're going to hyphen it.

And guess what else? We're going to change the spelling of more so that it is the actual word. Yeah, yeah. So there's no mucking around. There's no sort of sitting there going, when's it going to happen? Look, we want this out of the way at age three. Absolutely. Ella, lovely name.

Yes. That's certainly sort of camouflaging it to a certain degree. Hopefully you're struck by the Ella up front. Yes. You're right. I mean, it could be like something if your first name was Lot. Yeah. And that's really, really drawing attention to it.

Suck Moorhead. Suck my dick, Moorhead. Yeah. I'm trying to think. What about Gavin? So you're like Gav Moorhead. Gav Moorhead. Gav Moorhead.

Is that what I think? I'm going to look up. I'm going to see if that's a real person. Gavin Moorhead. Gavin Moorhead. Fuck. I mean, it will be. I'm going to see if that's a real person. Gavin Moorhead. Gavin Moorhead. Fuck. I mean, it will be. I'm not even going to put it into Facebook.

I'm just going to Google and see. Maybe there's like a Dr. Gavin Moorhead. Equality, diversity, and inclusion. Yep. I thought you were guessing that, and then I went, oh, there is exactly what you just said, and I realized you weren't making it up. You were reading it.

Oh, yeah. There's a guy called Gavin Moorhead who's written a book called Growing Australian Native Plants. Exactly what you just said, and I realise you weren't making it up. You were reading it. Oh, yeah. He's got some... There's a guy called Gavin Moorhead who's written a book called Growing Australian Native Plants and then sucking their penises until they come all over your face. Yeah. Equality, diversity and inclusion. Yeah.

I'll get Gavin Moorhead to any POC, woman, man, anything. I'm horny for anything that moves. The fact that the first one that comes up is a doctor. It's like that's really like you've been – that's really like and then they'll be sorry kind of behavior. You can just tell like bullied to within an inch of his life through school and it's like then he's like busting his ass at med school and he's like one day I'm going to earn more than all those cunts

that made my life a living hell. You know why? Because he's not out there playing sport at lunchtime. He's in the library. He's hiding from everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's gone in there.

He's in grade three. He's under the table. Yeah. He's in grade three like reading, you know, reading the fucking encyclopedia. Yeah.

He's like, whatever I can do to get me out of this fucking situation. He's got a real thirst for knowledge. Yeah. Loves it all over his face. Just lapping it up. Lapping up that knowledge. Yeah. Yeah. He's got a real thirst for knowledge. Yeah. Loves it all over his face. Just lapping it up. Lapping up that knowledge.

Yeah. Yeah. He's, you know, might even want to work for the CIA and become a real deep throat. Yes. Something like that. Yeah.

Did deep throat work for the CIA? Wasn't deep throat an anonymous informant? Who cares? It worked in my head. But Ella. Is Ella the Frozen name? Ella's the Frozen name, isn't it? I don't know.

Frozen the... You would have seen Frozen. It's a cartoon. You love that shit. I've never seen Frozen. You probably play the video game where you have to freeze flowers. I probably would play the video game. I mean, there must be a Frozen video game.

Let me look it up. Frozen video game. Blanket's not into Frozen yet. She doesn't know what it is. But once she does, from what I understand. It's common. Frozen video game. I don't think there is one.

Fuck, that's insane. By the looks of it, yeah. Here's a Reddit post from the 27th of July, 2020. Why is there no Frozen video game? Better take this to Reddit. Why has Disney. Why is there no Frozen video game? Better take this to Reddit. Why has Disney not come out with a Frozen video game? Plenty of hit movies like The Lion King, Hercules, and even Finding Nemo have complete video game versions of the films.

I'd spend a reasonably high amount of money, or would have when I had the expendable money to do so, to play through Frozen as Anna, and absolutely Elsa. It's Elsa. Oh, Elsa, not Ella. What an ad. They should make this.

I probably wouldn't buy it now because I can't afford it. But when I did have money, I would have done it. Yeah. Wisen it up so I can have it for free. Wisen it up so I can look at it and go, God, I wish I could afford that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I can make a new post. Me again.

Thank you for making it. I still don't have it. But I appreciate the effort. You've just reminded me a real, realizing how kind of frayed mentally the edges I went during lockdown. I started like anytime I left the room to like go to the bathroom or whatever

and then came back in, I would re-announce myself into the room to my girlfriend by going, me again. Just a bit of fun throughout the day. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I mean, all that stuff, people have had plenty of that from us look you know sorry for everyone that's had to listen to too much of all the lockdown sort

of stuff and i think we haven't been too bad with it but it's probably annoying to some people but we are in the city that had it the most but um yeah everyone's just readjusting to being out of the house now it's all you know relatively back to normal, hopefully, and whatever. But, yeah, we did cop it for quite a while. So I don't know whether you're annoyed by it or you're faintly amused by it from the outside looking in. I'd like to think we're at least trying to be kind of humorous about it at the very least, even when we are talking about it a bit.

Do you reckon in, like, you know, two years when you look back at this, and let's say we're all good in the next two years, then you're listening... Is this one of those things where you listen back and you just listen to 18 months of references to lockdown and whatever, and you go, ah, shut up. No, I really don't think that at all. I've never thought...

Even for people who weren't in lockdown when we were, it's like you're interested. It's like someone's going through something that you're not experiencing. You're interested to hear what it's like. And, you know, there's just been a huge slate of documentaries come out for the 10-year anniversary of 9-11. Like, you know, I fucking loved watching all that stuff

with a bit of a historical perspective and going like, it's this like huge kind of moment in time that changed everything but you're not listening to it every week for 18 months though um maybe if there had been if i was older when 9-11 happened and there had been podcasts if there was a podcaster within the twin towers at the base of it in the rubble that just kept banging on about it for 18 months sure if they're i mean watching the stuff now about like all there's like a great spike lee documentary about it where he goes really deep on the days afterwards and the fire crews that turned up to pull people out of the buildings

and all that kind of stuff. I found people got these long-lasting medical conditions off the back of it, just all this stuff I never really knew about. I found it fascinating. If that had been coming out at the time, I would have... Sorry, if I had been old enough to digest that kind of information at the time, I would have loved hearing about it. If there was a podcast where it's like,

I've got 9-11 cancer from breathing in fucking computer chips that were atomized in the building, and then someone's making a joke about it, I'd be like, this is good shit. That is funny. This is good shit. Hey, I'm getting 9-11 cancer over here. Well, thanks, Ella.

Thanks, Ella. Thanks, Elsa Moorhead. Appreciate you being on board, Ella. Yeah. Thank you very much to your Patreon subscriber, Daniel Adam. Not much going on here, is there? Not a lot of inspiration. No.

Well, this might help things. This is a person who I have met, who I'm aware of. This is a person I remember that back in the good old days, if you're a long-time listener, and I'm talking about like five, I guess five, six years ago, the couple of years I did where I was doing shows where i had a heckler in my comedy festival show and we talked about that a bit at the time uh i think maybe the first year i did it or second year i can't remember one of them where i had a different heckler in my show

every night so basically i did my show i had a heckler you you did it a couple of times we had a lot of friends of the show would come in and just heckle me as i'm doing my show it was a lot of fun a lot of back and forth what it sort as I'm doing my show. It was a lot of fun, a lot of back and forth. What it sort of meant was it was a different show. The skeleton every night was the same, but all the meat on it was different every night. Yeah, you'd do a one-liner and then the heckler's job was to question it or comment on what had happened. Dave O'Neill would call me a poof or Hannah Gadsby would come. No, she never did it.

I don't think she... No, she didn't do it. But yeah, a bunch of different friends of the show would have their little way with me. It meant, like I said, it meant that it was a different show. This bloke... Did it one night?

I think he... Well, he'll know. He came, I reckon, maybe between 10 and 15 times. Wow. Because it was like, just because it was a different show every night. And if you're, you know, of that persuasion and you're like, you know, this guy getting dunked on. That persuasion. Yeah.

He was just loving me getting shit on every night or whatever. I was fucking great. Right. Therapy for him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe he gets a lot of that in his own life, so it was very calming for him to see someone else endure that. Maybe.

Yeah. And there was a bit of that thing by the end of the show. You were his jackass. Yes. It's like you watch Knoxville and the boys getting hit in the nuts and you go, oof, I know how much that hurts. Thank God that's not me. I was his Jack Nicholson in the shit cannon.

Yes. Yeah. Yes. And yeah, so yeah, there was a lot of people by the end of it like, you know,

I think you did the final night of it with me and I think me and Cody did it together. Yeah. There was literally no one there that hadn't seen the show before. Right, right.

So it was just a bunch of repeat things where I sold quite well for the whole run. Yeah. But it was only to about 12 people. Yes. That just kept coming back. It was a subscription service. yeah so uh so yeah so by the end everyone's like we've heard all these fucking jokes 10 times yep but we haven't

we need some more riff we want some riffs yep yep so anyway this guy was coming fucking nearly every night just it was a lot of these people that were like, hit me up going, so who's on tonight? Who's the guy? It was like all these people had a regular pub that they were coming to and going, yeah, we love the pub. What's the specials tonight? Is the Palmer back on tonight? Yes, yes, yes.

Yeah. Pub putting the Palmer on the specials. That's great. A pub that's like, no, no, no. We don't want this on every day. We want this to be a bit of a rare occurrence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not saying it was a good pub.

Yeah, I'm sure there are pubs like that. But yeah. Fuck, I could go a Palmer. I'm so fucking hungry. You know what? I'm a recent subscriber to the Palmer. I honestly reckon I'd never had a Palmer before maybe three years ago. Just never had it.

I've always really liked them. I think maybe I was waning on them a bit, but then the lockdowns have really brought back the enthusiasm for them. It's just not a – it's so linked to being out, having good times at a pub with your mate. It's not a – I mean, it's like pizza. You can make it at home, but it's just a whole different ballgame. And it doesn't travel well.

You can't get it delivered. It tastes like shit by the time it gets to you. Get it fresh out of the oven on a plate yeah in a beer garden yeah oh so good well speaking of you know the the guts of this episode before before the two gentlemen and the guest uh that run before talking dumb dumb that was uh that was a great moment i was sitting down and uh discussing how much we're enjoying not being interrupted by a seven-year-old as we were tucking into almost universally all Parmans. Absolutely.

I did notice there was the eight of us there and there were seven Parmans and one steak. Oh, a steak. I wonder what the ratio of that is. Who had the steak? Friend of the show, Ben Knight. Ah, okay. And if you look at his rig and you look at the rest of our rigs. Makes a lot of sense. It's a good ad for steak.

Yep. I think he went the steak with probably no sauce and a bit of veg and just us with a huge fucking chicken with a couple of layers of cheese. I'm sorry, but first day out at the pub, that's almost more offensive than trying to bring a kid. Getting stuck into like a pretty, sure it was nice, but it's like just live it up. Get a fucking Palmer.

Sure, it was nice, but it's like, just live it up. Get a fucking Palmer. I would say, Ben Knight, you know, look, a bit of an amateur participant in the first day out. Having a steak, probably had a beer or two. Look, not his fault, I'm not blaming him. He's been on our show once, Yep. And this is probably, you know, probably showed in his experience of being at the pub with seven other absolute shithanging cunts.

Yep. Him sitting there. We were, we had a lot more stories about how fucked in the head open micers were. Yeah. He was sitting there just sort of enjoying his sauceless steak. But, you know, you got to respect it. He's like, look, he's like look I can't I can't mix it

with these guys I'm just gonna sit here I'm just gonna enjoy this I'm just gonna I'm just gonna soak it all in I'm not gonna pretend that I'm like

you know oh yeah this guy was a cunt and then I tell a story about someone who wasn't really a cunt I get it I can't mix it up in the same way

he knows his place what you're saying is you should have disinvited him and invited McGinley's kid instead maybe she would have contributed more maybe someone at daycare has been a real cunt she could have teed off on Yeah, he was... Knows his place. What you're saying is you should have disinvited him and invited McGinley's kid instead. Maybe she would have contributed more. Maybe someone at daycare has been a real cunt that she could have teed off on. Maybe, maybe.

He was basically at the kids' table whilst being twice the size as the rest of us. Right. Yeah. But... Anyway, thanks whoever this is. Daniel Adam. Thanks, Daniel Adam.

Thanks, Daniel Adam, for coming to 12 or 15 or whatever the fuck it was of the same show over and over five years ago. Yep. And then basically never seen him again since. Yep. Good for him. Fair enough. It's like, oh, how come you haven't been again?

Oh, because I saw you 15 times one year and I'm fucking over it. Yeah. It makes sense. And you're still getting money for him from Patreon. Now he's doing this. Yeah. Good for him. You're still getting money for him from Patreon. Now he's doing this. Yeah. Good for him. In fact,

there should be more people like that. Thank you very much to Patreon subscriber, Harry Hadley. Oh boy. What a name. Yeah. What's his,

so what's his, is this guy a superhero in the Marvel Universe or what, in the MCU? He's got a bit of those, a bit of that Stan Lee type of secret identity name, doesn't he? Yeah, Peter Parker. Yeah.

Yeah, Harry Hadley. Bruce Banner. But isn't everyone in... Yeah, I mean, everyone in Spider-Man has those kind of dumb names. So he sounds more like he's like, I don't know, not Spider-Man's boss, but that kind of, you know... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not a... Spider-Man's best friend.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not an alter ego, but he's not a he's not a spider-man's best friend yeah yeah yeah he's not an alter ego but he's he's he's in the yeah he's one of the minor or maybe one of the minor superheroes that we don't off off the top of our head don't know the secret identity like what's ant-man i don't know his secret identity what's i don't know what's fucking um hawkman's what does hawkman have a secret i don't know but i well this is the thing is like harry hadley's hawkman's does Hawkman have a secret I don't know but I well this is the thing is like Harry Hadley's Hawkman's DC sorry nerds

sorry nerds and it's Hawkeye no there's a Hawkman as well oh okay there was when I was a kid well it will also

Marvel now they're like you know they're really digging into like not the bottom of the barrel but they're really kind of digging out

all the obscure ones Ant-Man was probably the first phase where it's like, wow, they're running, they're really running out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, Harry Hadley probably hasn't even appeared yet. Yeah. Probably going to get like Bin-Man or something. Yeah, yeah.

What's there, yeah, what's there an animal that hasn't, do they still make new characters? I wouldn't make too many new characters with their. Marvel? Yeah. That's a good point. I don't know. I imagine every now and then they do a little then they do a little run where they probably, but maybe more so now that the films are so big,

like they're starting to realise, all right, well the tracks are being built as the train's going along and we're running out of tracks, so here's our new comic book, Fridge Girl. Yeah, yeah. I got invited, I couldn't go, but I got invited last night to the premiere of Marvel's Eternals, starring friend of the show, Kamal Nanjiani. Oh, yeah?

You got invited by him? Yeah. He just sent me a – he filmed it on his phone at the premiere in Los Angeles, and he was like, do you want to watch this video file? He was Thailanding it up just in the cinema, just live streaming it off his phone to you. Yeah. Yeah, nice. You were invited to watch it at home.

You said, no, thanks, I'm busy. I said, no, thanks, I'm busy. I'm in the other room. I won't make it in time. I'm at the cinema. I got invited to the premiere and the dress code was Marvel Chic, which I was like, what the fuck? Just what does this mean?

Just tell me what to actually wear. Yeah. A suit or a shirt. Yeah. Or casual. Yeah. It sounds nerdy. Marvel chic.

It sounds nerdy. It probably is nerdy. It's like what? A fucking shirt with Spider-Man on it and a blazer over that? Yeah. That's probably what that means. With a bow tie over the top of it and a top hat. Yeah.

Try and look as much of like a fucking dork as you can. The top hat. Yeah. Yeah. Is that chic? Has that ever been described as chic? Is the top hat chic? Got the cane out. Yeah.

Going full steampunk. Got the fob watch. Yeah. I've got my Ant-Man fob watch. Yeah. You've got the big hawk wings on the back of you. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what else.

I don't really get into the Marvel movies, but I would like to see Kamau's impressive rig in a Marvel film. Yeah, good for... So that's two friends of the show in Marvel movies, right? Yeah. Are they in the... I mean, having said said that who are actual heroes there's probably other people we've had on that have been in like supporting roles with backgrounds

maybe so kamal is in the eternals ronnie is in veil shang chi veil ronnie chang what you think there could be another one is somewhere somewhere deep within another i just feel like maybe there's someone who's but you know like, like in the background of something. I mean, they make so many of those fucking films and I'm not up to date of all of them. Maybe not as a superhero, but as like a, you know. You think Kyle Kinane's an extra in the background of Wonder Woman 1984 or something like that?

Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Possibly. Again, I know, not Marvel cunts. Yeah. We get it. It's a superhero movie. Whatever.

Fucking bar. But who's next who's going to be the next friend of the show to be cast as a as a Marvel hero who wow

it's got to be someone from overseas Dave Anthony is non-commitment man yeah yeah yeah yeah tie man yeah

Captain No-Show yes there we go there we go there we go that There we go. There we go. That's good. All right.

Well, thanks, Harry Hadley. The Patreon boy. Patreon boy. Yes. That's his superhero. That's his superhero name. He goes into the phone booth. He puts the costume on.

He puts a lot of coins into the phone booth. He puts a lot of coins in and then takes the costume off again. No, picks up the phone, listens to a bonus episode. Yep. Puts the phone down. Yep. Gets changed, walks back out. There you go. Comes back in another month.

And the disguise is just typically the alter ego is to protect the identity of the superhero. But in this case, the costume is just shame. Put a big mask on so that no one can see what a fucking nerd I am listening to this podcast. And then he's back out and he's mild-mannered Harry Hadley again. Normal person who definitely doesn't listen to podcasts. Thanks, Hazza. Thanks, Harry.

Let's just do one more. It's a beautiful day outside. Let's get out and experience it. It is. Otherwise, we normally go on forever. Yep. But let's cut it short just to give ourselves something. We're doing enough for everyone here.

We've read dozens of names already. Let's go out and do something for us. One more. Let's do the one more. Thank you very much to the final Patience subscriber this week thank you very much too oh wow speak of the devil

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