The Little Dum Dum Club with Tommy & Karl - Episode 72 - Josh Lawson

Episode Date: February 15, 2012

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Hey mates, we've got a live little Dumb Dumb Club show as part of the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. We're on Monday nights in April at the Melbourne Town Hall at 8.30pm. We've got heaps of big surprise celebrity guests on the show. Tickets are now on sale at comedyfestival.com.au and we'd actually really love to see you all there. And if you want to come and see me, Tommy Dasolo, I am doing a brand new show called Pipsqueak for the Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney Comedy Festivals. Tickets and more details are at TommyDassolo.com. See you there, mates.

Hey, mates. Welcome once again into the Little Dumb Dumb Club for another week. My name is Tommy Dassolo and sitting opposite me, Carl Chandler. G'day, dickhead. This is a rare thing for us. We're doing this quite early in the morning. This is like it feels like we have real jobs. You know what I mean?

It feels like we've been on holiday for a long, long time and now we're back to school. Yeah, I was up so early that I got to see people doing Pilates in the park. Oh, well, I was up so early I got to see hot air balloons out the window as I was brushing my teeth. So that's when you know you're up too early, when you see stupid, antiquated air devices. This is people doing all this stuff so early. Like, I was just walking past these Pilates people going, do you know how good it is not

being awake? Like, what are you doing? Today on the show, we have a very, very great guest. We're very excited to have him in here. You may know him from Thank God You're Here, the new film, Any Questions for Ben, or the series House of Lies. Please welcome into the little dum-dum club, Josh Lawson. Thank you very, very much.

Thank you very much for coming in, man, squeezing us in. My pleasure. I'm sorry to get you up so early. Sorry that you had to witness the hot air balloons, the Pilates. I am. I apologise. I feel responsible. So you've just come back

off the end of the junket of the film Any Questions for Ben. You must be in just red hot junket form. I mean, you really have saved the best to last.

You know, the sweet cherry on the top. You guys wanted to hassle me for weeks and I said, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. I want to finish with you guys.

Yeah, yeah. I want to hear what's Rob Sitch really like 20, 30, 40 times no. I want to finish with you guys. I want to hear what's Rob Sitch really like 20, 30, 40 times in different states. That's what you said. And then I want to end up with you guys talking about hot air balloons. That's exactly right. Now, you'll forgive me. My voice is a little gone.

As you can imagine, I've been just talking about myself for two weeks straight, which normally I do for nothing. It's my favourite subject. It does take its toll. I mean, I've never done a junket before. I don't know if you guys have ever done one, but they – Do we look like we've done a junket?

As it was coming out of my mouth, I realized how stupid a question it was. We're marveling about being up at 8 o'clock in the morning. You're absolutely right. As if we've done anything grown up in our lives. You're quite right. You don't look like you've done anything like that. But it is intense. I mean, you're in a different hotel room every night almost

and you're on a plane every, you know, equally the same every day and it's full days and, you know, you're doing 30 to 40 interviews a day for two weeks or something. I mean, it's really intense. Yeah. When I've followed like actors and stuff on Twitter when they're talking about being on the press junket and stuff, it always strikes me as it's kind of almost like a weird version

of being a rock star. Like you're jetted around to all these different places, but your big gig is like doing interviews, like just talking about something you've been in. Like it's sort of a weird kind of tour. You do your concert at the start and then you go around and talk about it for a month. Yeah.

Well, and not only that, I mean, we did the concert, so to speak, the movie a year ago. Yeah, you're right. So there's been this 12 month period or upwards of that where we haven't been thinking about it at all. Yeah. Because it's been going through post, it's an edit and all that sort of stuff. But then to come back and, you know, to talk about it like we've just finished it. Yeah.

It's a strange thing. Do you get any groupies after the interviews? Like, oh, I love the words you said then. I love the way you described your character. It was so good. Yeah, Andrew Bolt was pretty handsome. What was, I mean, it seemed like, because I do follow you on Twitter and you were talking about going around to a lot of different places.

Did you get any shipped out to any weird regional radio stations or newspapers or anything like that? Anything worse than this. Worse than this. No, look, most of the regional stuff we do via the phone, which I'm surprised we couldn't have done for this. But apparently not. You needed me in studio for some reason.

But, no, we want to tell you what we did. Brisbane, Gold Coast, Byron, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth. Wow. That is where the Byron gets its own premiere. And we miss out on Tasmania and the Northern Territory. Hang on, was there any press in Byron or did you just say, oh, yeah, I think the Byron Eddie might want to talk to me if I go there for two weeks?

Yeah, no, it was just me and Byron drinking, handing out any questions to the best CDs. You've bootlegged your own copies. Yeah, exactly. The next stop of the junket is Bali. We're going to be setting up a little shop on the side of the road. Where it's already in the new-to-weekly DVD bin in Bali. And it's all just copies of you with your handycam inside a cinnamon. It's like the Gold Class.

Exactly. Scull like the gold class. Exactly. Sculling Jack Daniels. So, of course, you're just squeezing all this stuff in because you're based in LA now. Living in LA, yeah. You're living the dream over there. Well, I don't know about the dream. It's, yeah, it's, look, it's good. It's good.

It's going well. I mean, I've been there on and off for about four or five years now. I think I probably went over there. God, I honestly lose track of time in LA. Whenever the writer's strike was, do you remember the writer's strike? That was when I landed. That was the first experience I had in Hollywood. You caused the writer's strike.

It was me. We do not want to write. If this bloke's here, we do not want to write anymore. But then, so going back and forth a lot since then, but last year was the first year I stayed pretty much strictly over there all year. And yeah, and so I guess it feels like home now as much as I hate to admit it because I don't love LA as a place. And coming back to Melbourne, I immediately feel at home and I wish I could live here.

But one of the questions that kept getting asked on the tour was, oh, we're losing you to Hollywood. You know, what's it going to take to get you back doing another job in Australia? And I go, an offer. I'm not doing it because no one's asking me to work here. I audition for stuff in Australia, but I just get more jobs in America. Yeah. So, I mean, I'd love to work here in Australia,

but the reality is I'm just not getting the work. So if you get corpse number two on Water Rats, you're straight back here. You've heard it here first. America. Yeah. So, I mean, I'd love to work here in Australia, but the reality is I'm just not getting the work. So if you get corpse number two on Water Rats, you're straight back here. You've heard it here first. Firstly, I'd be stunned if Water Rats is filming, isn't it? What a dated reference. They're bringing it back just so they can offer you the role to keep you in the country. That seems like such an elaborate prank.

Well, because, you know, you're on the show House of Lies. You've got this new film with Will Ferrell and Zach Galifianakis that you've just done, which we might get into a bit later. But we're more sort of fascinated on this show with, you know, because you said you've been there for a few years and going out to auditions and stuff. And we were just in LA ourselves and talking to a lot of people over there. And it seems like it's just rife for, like, horror audition stories. Have you got any great ones you can try to announce for us?

Before you actually started getting this stuff, was there any failed carpet call auditions over there? Well, no, look, thankfully, due to my visa restrictions, I couldn't go for commercials. Oh, right. So I was only going... That's a restriction on your visa? Well, because the turnaround,

basically what happened with my visa is that once I got an offer, there needed to be a period of time between the offer and the shooting for me to go and revise my visa, basically. But with commercials, the turnaround from getting the job to shooting the commercial is so fast that there wouldn't have been any time for me to revise my visa. Boring story. Boring bureaucratical story. But that's the reality. So I was going for lots of television and a fair few film things. But look, to be honest, I mean, when I don't get a job,

when I audition and I don't get it, I just file it in bad audition. Like they're all the same in terms of like no one treated me like shit once I'm in the audition. Like they're all the same. Yeah. In terms of like, no one treated me like shit. Um, once I'm in the audition room, I mean, there are auditions where I've had five scenes to, um,

to learn and these massive, it's like 20 to 30 pages of scenes and you learn them and you go, I'm going to learn every, every word of this. And halfway through the first scene after page and a half thing, you know, go, okay, I'll stop you there.

Uh, you know what? We don't need to see anymore. It's like, oh, for God's sake, I spent two weeks on this. You've sort of described just recently the audition that me and Carl had for an ad here for McDonald's, except for the bit where you said that you learned it. That bit is not the same as our experience. Our visa did let us go for this job.

Did you guys go for it together? Was it like a two-hander type thing? Yeah. Who beat you? I'm curious. Do you know? Everyone else in Australia, I think. Everyone gets a go except for you guys.

Yeah, I think there was a million in for it. And in the second round, there was 999,999. Do you remember any lines from it? Oh, we were eating a burger from a chain that you may have heard of. They may even have a name. I've already said the name. You've said the name. Oh, have I? Yeah, it gets out of the bag, Carl. Oh, it's interesting a burger from a chain that you may have heard of. They may even have it in their name. I've already said the name. You've said the name. Have you?

Yeah, that's out of the bag now. Oh, I wasn't listening. Right, okay. Can we edit that bit out just so it makes me not insane? Sure, whatever you want. We, what was the other? We're probably not meant to talk about it. Oh, you could always bleep out.

We were sort of meant to be imagining their product and sort of fantasizing about all the different things. We're like in an oil rig going, oh, as if we had a burger now, how good would that be? Ooh. And that wasn't the exact line, but it was something like that. That wasn't the exact line, but that's what we did. That's why we didn't get it. Okay.

Well, they're lost as far as I'm concerned. It's made you hungry. Yeah. Yeah. But you know what? You should definitely bleep out their name because that is free advertising you've given them. Yeah, that's true. We've given them plenty of free advertising before we did the ad.

We've given them plenty of money, in fact. Yeah. They may as well be a sponsor of this show. Yeah. So you've just finished wrapping up shooting. Is that what people say in Hollywood? Wrapping up shooting. just finished wrapping up shooting. Is that what people say in Hollywood? Wrapping up shooting. Wrapping up shooting.

That seems to be the most word economical way of doing it. With Will Ferrell and Zach Galifianakis. Yes. I finished up in late January on that. But it's a small role. It's in a film called Dogfight. Although I've been told that when it is released here in Australia, it's going to be called Rivals.

Oh, wow. That classic game. Yeah. I don't know why they're changing it. Dogfight seemed okay with me. Yeah. We don't have dogs over here, they presume? We don't have fighting. Right. Very placid over here. Yeah. But we do have Rivals. So, yeah, that's opening in

America in August. It's about a political fight, a dogfight in... What? Sorry, I don't understand the term. A political rivalry. Right. Can you relate it to McDonald's in some way? Sure, sure.

Okay, so it's the Hamburglar. Okay. And Will Ferrell and Zach Galvanicus play opponents in the political field, I think going for congressman in North Carolina. And I play Zach's brother, who's a DA, who is a real pants man. He's married, but he's constantly turning up to meet Zach's character with a different girl on his arm, and he's a real frat boy. Anyway, that's my character.

But I'm almost embarrassed to talk about it because A, it's really small. The role I play is really, really not a big role. I might have three or four scenes. B, you know how these things go where sometimes certain characters need to hit the editing room floor. And I wouldn't be surprised if I didn't make it into the film at all.

So you've done the maths and you've worked out that nothing massively pivotal to the plot is happening in your scene. I'm sorry to say that's true. Yeah. That if, you know, they did a cut and it was like three hours long and they had to look at it and go, okay, guys, we have to lose stuff. We have to lose a lot of stuff. I mean, I'm sure they would be looking at my scenes going, he could go.

It's not going to affect the film. We could cut him. So, I mean. Zach pulls a funny face in some scene. They go over and go, well, something's got to give. Lawson out. Out. Out.

That's it. We can add that extra fart gag if we can get rid of Lawson. We'll do it. Make Will Ferrell shout for a bit longer and then that'll blow it out. So we'll see what happens. But that is, that's a sad reality of what we do, particularly when you do small roles. Yeah.

But hopefully that doesn't happen. So you're another pants man. You're getting typecast as someone that sleeps with a lot of ladies. Except that, to dispel that theory in House of Lies, I play the exact opposite of that. A guy who. A woman. I play the exact opposite of that. A guy who... A woman. I play a woman who doesn't wear pants.

But I've said too much. No, I play a guy who is a complete social misfit and can't pick up women at all. He's rubbish. I did notice that you have glasses in that role, so that story checks out there. That's true. But non-prescription. Oh, right. rubbish. I did notice that you have glasses in that role, so that story checks out there. That's true. No, no, but non-prescription. Oh, right.

You know, because that's how I roll. No, but yeah, that character's great. That show was terrific. We just got picked up for a second season on that, which is great. And I think Channel 10 is playing it later on this year. It is a good show. I've watched a couple of episodes on it. The Great Don Cheadle. Yes.

I can only assume you've been illegally downloading it. Yes. But The Great Don Cheadle and Kristen Bell, of course. Yeah, that was a hell of a show. We really dug that. Here's the thing with pilots. Pilot season is happening in America

right now, which is this three-month block at the start of the year where all the networks make all their pilots and then they decide which ones they're going to pick up

and they make the show. So think about it like this. So there must be maybe, I'm going to guess, and say around 150 pilots that get shot each year. Each year, yeah. Right?

In this three-month block in pilot season. Now of those 150, I mean, I can't even, maybe 30 get made. Maybe 30 get picked up, maybe. So you shoot the pilot and so many, close to 100, maybe upwards, over 100 pilots don't get picked up to season. Yeah. And then those that do get picked up to season, a lot of them, probably half, won't even last

a full season. Yeah. Yeah. They'll get cut before the first season is even done. And then of those, maybe half still will get picked up for a second season. Yeah. So when I say the House of Lights has been picked up for a second season, for me, that's a massive deal because so many planets needed to align

in order for that to happen. So you're explaining that because we didn't congratulate you enough then. What you're saying is... I mean, I'm looking at this big board in front of you. I assume you've got an applause button and you're refusing to use it. It's only preloaded with fart sound effects and Dickie Nee saying g'day to Daryl Son. And if we play the fart noise, we don't have enough time to include you

in this podcast. No, that is awesome. So when you say you've been over there for five years, obviously you've done a lot of failed pilot episodes. That's right. Yeah, I did. You were the Simon Pegg role

in the American space. It's so funny how often that comes up in this country. In America, no one ever talks about it. But here, in the press junket, it was one of the most asked questions. Really? That and, bizarrely, Squid, this movie that I shot, this low-budget, nothing film that I shot with Ed Kavali that hasn't even been finished, that will not ever be finished.

That and this space thing, I think people are really interested in the failures. What's Squid? Is Squid the scumbus one one or is that a different one? No, that's a different one. Squid is something we shot. How many unfinished Ed Kavali movies are there? Oh, well, Scumbus only just got finished shooting. Right. So Scumbus is in post. Right. But Squid is like five

or six years old or something. But more than that. I mean, it's really odd. Yeah, that's in the Kavali anthology. Right. Yeah. That was directed by Luke Tierney and Daley Pearson. And they didn't have enough money to finish it. So I've seen a really rough version of it, and I don't think anyone should see it, to be honest.

Although, what the hell? I don't care. I'm not ashamed of anything I've done. I think you can put it on the internet and it would be fine. Not going to be ashamed of anything you've done until now. Until right now. Until this show. It's put it on the internet and it would be fine. Not going to shame of anything you've done until now. Until right now. It's good enough for the internet,

you're saying. You could not watch it in a movie. The internet does have pretty high standards. Everything on it is pretty good. It must be alright.

That is interesting, just quickly on what you were saying about the pilots not getting picked up and stuff. That does remind me of one thing that I do love

that happens on TV here because we're a few months behind the American schedules. So the Australian networks will go out and they'll buy the rights to the shows that they think are going to be good and they hype them up. And sometimes what happens is a show will air in the States and it will have been cancelled over there before it started airing here. But because they've already started hyping it, they've just got to keep going. Shit, my dad says, guys, it's going to be great.

And then three episodes in, yeah, sorry. I read about it on Twitter. It was cancelled three months ago, guys. Yeah. It's true. That happens all the time. I do love that where they've just got to keep just throwing out this stinking turd, just knowing that even if people here like it, you're going to get three

and then back to repeats of the Big Bang Theory. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, how about this? We're a day after Valentine's Day. Yes. Are you in the same city as your girlfriend right now? Not at the moment, no. No, no, no.

Rach is over in Los Angeles at the moment. Oh, right. She went back to get back into pilot season. Oh, okay. Right, right. So you haven't had a particularly romantic Valentine's Day then? No, I spent Valentine's Day on a boat with five other dudes yesterday. Sorry, I take that back.

You have had a... So, yeah, watch your tongue, Carl. No, yeah, we went fishing. It was very romantic. Oh, nice. Deslo, you're... Well, I'm very fascinated to hear where this is going because I saw you yesterday at midday and you were saying that you still hadn't worked out what you were going to do with your girlfriend. And then we both went our separate ways and I was talking to you again at five 30 and you still had no idea what you were going to do.

Uh, me and my girlfriend went out for a nice picnic. It was very nice. It was lovely. Here's something though that I saw, uh, went for a run just before we went to picnic. and I've seen this a couple of times, but it was happening last night as well.

There's this group of dudes that are sometimes hanging out in the park near my house doing that role-playing stuff. You know, they dress up in all that medieval gear, and they've got swords, and they do that real-life Warcraft kind of stuff. So they were doing that last night, which I just thought was awesome. Like Valentine's Day, come on guys, let's not beat around the bush. None of us have girlfriends. Let's just get out there.

But then as if that wasn't... Let's just be the worst of us. Yeah. As if that wasn't sad enough, that group are doing all that shit. And then there's one guy sitting near them on a bench, drinking a two litre Coke and eating a popcorn chicken. Just how's that? The sad runoff of the sad runoff.

Well, I saw something similar. I saw an entire weird family in a park all with cowboy hats on, all practicing their whip cracking. All of them had their own whip. There was four of them. What? Is there some kind of rodeo coming up or something? I don't know. No, no.

I was trying to take pictures of them, which they didn't appreciate. No, because it steals their soul, I think. They hate that. Yeah. Whip crackers are very spiritual people. Very spiritual. Yeah, yeah. They learned that in the whip cracking dream time.

Wow. That's bizarre. You guys are really, I mean, you guys are having some bizarre Valentine's Day experiences. We are very good at seeing stuff. And talking about it. So let's get to you, because I ended up having a very, we went for a picnic, some bizarre Valentine's Day experiences. We are very good at seeing stuff. And talking about it. So let's get to you because I ended up having a very – we went for a picnic and it was delightful. What did you end up doing, Carl?

We went to an Indian restaurant and ate pizza. Are you sure it was an Indian restaurant? Yeah. They honestly serve pizza at an Indian restaurant. We went to it and then they said – It's an authentic Indian joint called Domino's. It's great. So it was like we got the menu and my girlfriend was like,

I don't like anything too spicy. All right, I might have the capriciosa. That was on there. So we just ended up eating pizza, which was- Wow. I don't know. And my girlfriend was like, oh, wow, this is great. We've picked a restaurant that's not too packed on Valentine's Day.

That's awesome. I'm like, yeah, because we're eating capricciosa pizza in an Indian takeaway joint. That's why it's not too packed because no one else is as unromantic as me. How do you guys still have girlfriends? A mystery to me. Well, should I bring this up? I started to tell you this the other day. Please.

Please do. I don't know whether I should be saying this, but anyway. No, you should. By the way, if this is you breaking up with your girlfriend, I would say this is a bad idea to do on a podcast. Just say, don't do it. And she's a few weeks behind, too, so this is a long game he's going to be playing.

This is going to be another pilot that doesn't get picked up for you, sorry, Josh. Go on. I've interrupted. Go on. Me and my girlfriend, we've been together for five years now so it's now to a stage where she's uh we got to a stage where a lot of my friends are getting engaged and things like that and they're all moving on with their lives and and uh my

girlfriend sees all that happening and goes well it's very interesting it seems like we're not doing what everyone else is doing and has started you know mentioning things and whatever i'm like look that's completely fine and and whatever you know you can you can you can up the ante i guess and then she's that hasn't sort of worked i guess recently so what she's done is we've she's booked a day out for us on the weekend and we went out uh ring shopping without there being any sort of proposal or anything like that and we've just she's just decided we're going to go and look at rings. So she's sort of gone shopping for an outfit to a party she hasn't been invited to.

It's the power of positive suggestion. Yeah. I think she's seriously read it in a book somewhere and I've been dragged along to Tiffany's. Is that the secret? That'd be the secret, wouldn't it? That kind of thing. Oh, is it?

I don't know. Put it out into the universe kind of stuff. I mean, how far could you go with this? I mean, eventually you're going to be out like church shopping, you know, priest shopping, and the next thing you know you're married. There's going to be some sort of candid camera waiting where I just turn up and go, yeah, let's just go in and, you know, confess and whatever, and then all my family there, it's like,

oh, well, while we're here, we might as well get cracking. You're going to have a rehearsal for the rehearsal dinner for the wedding. Yeah. That's really. And now how reluctant are you? Are you not interested at all in getting married? No, no, no. Or are you entertaining the idea?

No, no, no. Of course. No, I'm just, I'm just a lazy man. Right. Just, just having got around to that sort of thing and thinking about it that heavily. But. I know. I mean, you were bitching and moaning about the 8am call time this morning.

And also. I can imagine. The commitment of getting up at 7 o'clock this morning. He did end up eating a pizza in an Indian restaurant for Valentine's Day. So that should give some indication to the level of romance. I think the real question that's raised by all that is why is she going to all this effort to get the commitment out of a guy that acts like this? She's pulling on the rod pretty hard to pull in a boot that's got a rod on the end of the

fishing line. You told me that yesterday about how there's been a lot of pressure and for a good hour yesterday afternoon, I did genuinely contemplate proposing to my girlfriend just to turn the heat up on you because I thought that'd be, I'm 10 years younger than you, that would be the nail in the coffin. You'd never hear the end of it after that. Man, that is a backfire you would not, I mean, that just really wouldn't work out well for you.

Yeah. And then I'm there at the altar with my girlfriend going, this is kind of embarrassing, but this whole thing was just to kind of wind up Chandler. Is it too late to maybe put this on ice for like eight years or something? Do you mind? Do you mind? Now, I'll say this. Now, Josh, you've known Tommy for a little while.

Yeah. Have you? Something that comes up a lot on this show is his voice. Okay. Now, it's something that I haven't noticed myself, but a lot of listeners tend to send us emails that basically the template is, hey, love the show. Just found out that Tommy is actually a guy. We thought he was a girl the whole time.

Is that true? Do people really say that? That's true. It started every time I would do, like I'd go on radio, before we did the podcast on Triple J, they would get texts in going, who's this girl on the phone? And then I talked about that once on this show, and then now it's just constant.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Close your eyes. I've got to close my eyes. Just talk to me. Hey, Josh. Oh, hold on. You're girling it up. You're girling it up.

You've just got to be you. Okay, okay. Hey, Josh. Really looking forward to spending Valentine's Day with you. We've got a lot of fun stuff planned. Thought we might go down to the local Indian joint and get a pizza. Okay, let me tell you this. I'm going to shoot straight.

Maybe not a girl, but certainly transgender. All right? It's the certainly in there that really hurt. Look, I mean, it would be a pretty butch girl, no doubt. Sure, yeah. But I can imagine this. I get where the confusion is. I'm fine with that. I'm fine with being a butch girl. You're a tough chick. Yeah, yeah. But I can imagine there's – I get where the confusion is going. And I'm fine with that.

I'm fine with being a butch girl. You're a tough chick. Yeah, absolutely. Someone wrote in saying, what was it, that she can hold her own with the boys, which was good. Okay, all right. Yeah, yeah. Well, why I bring this up is that –

I was wondering why that was coming up. Sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want to one by one go through all of Tommy's foibles and see what you think, Josh. Happy to. On the weekend, because we've got a bit of a following now, believe it or not, this show has listeners. And we've got a lot of listeners around town and whatever. Now, I went to a gig on the weekend.

I was quite close to a gig. I was walking to this gig and I heard Tommy yell out to me. We start the show with when Tommy says, hey mate. So we get a bit of that. We talk like that. We're sad. We do our own catchphrases from the show to each other in real life. Exactly.

So I walk along, I hear Tommy say, hey mate. And I go, oh, cool. Tommy's come to the gig. I turn around and I see this alleyway, this little doorway, and there's three people in it. And there's two real teenage guys at the front. I'm like, what's Tommy doing hanging out with the... And then I look behind, and it's a girl that has yelled out,

hey, mate. And I went, oh, and it sounded exactly like you, and it clicked for the first time. I'm like, that's so funny. And not only that, but they were like 18, 19 as well. So I walk away from it going, that's very funny. I thought it was Tommy. It was a girl. Not only was it a girl, it was like an 18-year-old girl.

And then I thought, what Tommy does get a lot of is that people go, oh, he sounds like a teenage lesbian girl. Now, I then went, oh, she's a teenager. She's a girl. What if she's a lesbian as well? Like, not that there's anything wrong with that, but what if

it's the cliche come true, that that's what everyone says about Tommy? So I went back and said to her, look, here's the situation. You obviously listened to the show. Oh, God, this is just going to get worse before it gets better. You're a little bloody investigator, aren't you? You're a little bloody Sherlock Hines. In hindsight, as I'm explaining this, I realise how bad this sounds.

But I went back. Hello, teenage girl. In an alley. Yeah, yeah. By the way, I'm how bad this sounds, but I went back. Hello, teenage girl. In an alley. Yeah, yeah. By the way, I'm not proposing to my girlfriend, but I am going to chat up girls in an alleyway. This is going to sound super creepy, but do you like girl-on-girl action? That sounds a little bit worse.

Want to go ring shopping? That's a little bit worse than what I actually said, but not that much. Sure. Not that much worse. What did you say to this teenage girl in an alley? I said, well, you obviously listen to the show. You know how Tommy's got this voice thing or whatever. I just think it's funny.

You're a girl. You're a teenager. Can I ask this? Is this too personal? But are you a lesbian? Oh, I thought it was going to be, will you fuck me? No. I said, are you a lesbian?

And then I noticed, I got myself into that situation where there's these guys either side of her. And I've asked her about her sexuality in front of people that probably don't know anything about whether she's. What's interesting is that was what set it off, that this wasn't a good situation for you. Yeah. The two guys next to her was like, oh, actually this might be weird.

Yeah. The context all of a sudden hit you. Okay. So the guys, two presumably 18-year-old guys. Yeah. Yeah. And so I was, and then I said, are you a lesbian? And then she went and just sort of froze a bit.

And I was like, oh, this is the worst. I went, oh, I'm really sorry. But, you know, it's cool. It's for a joke. Oh, no, that's not cool either. This is not funny at all. And just had to backtrack. And she was very, very awkward and very nice to put up with my horribly ham-fisted

attempts at getting a cheap little joke for Tommy Dazzolo. So basically you never got to the bottom of whether or not she was a backtracker. No, no. I feel like her silence sort of says everything. Oh, look, I'm not going to, I'm not going to, I don't know. I don't know. When you were saying- I'd like to think she was just too stunned at the stupidity of me to give me an answer.

Well, that's one listener we've lost. I just, when you were saying that the teenage boys were hanging out next to you, I thought it was going to get, they were going to get a bit protective. And I was in my head going, please let this story end with Carl getting bashed by teenagers in an alleyway. That would really be. That would be poetic. Tremendous end to the story.

Yeah. Not just poetic, but just probably funny for you. Yeah. Well, definitely. Yeah. Oh God. Yeah. So just poetic, but just probably funny for you. Yeah, well, definitely, yeah. Oh, God. Yeah, so that was, yeah, I could see, I finally can see the femininity in your voice.

Maybe I need to go and do some voice training or something. No, no. I need to get like a vocal coach. That's your hook. Stop it. It's your angle. Stop it, guys. Hey, get out of here.

You be a strong, proud woman. Maybe I could go to L.A. and do some voice acting and be like a reverse Nancy Cartwright, you know? Oh, yeah, sure. Hey, get out of here. You be a strong, proud woman. Maybe I could go to LA and do some voice acting and be like a reverse Nancy Cartwright. Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, I could do that. You could do Lisa Simpson. Yeah, that'd be great. It'd be really great. Another thing that just, I'll just wrap this up, that happened.

I got home from a lot of drinks on the town the other night, and I got problems with my neighbours. They put in a lot of complaints about me hanging washing out on my line and stuff on the balcony. And I get letters in the mail saying, don't hang your undergarments out on your washing line. Really? Yeah.

It's horrible. Can I tell you, that really annoys me. I just don't know why neighbours have to stick their noses in everything. Because I've got neighbours like that in LA. And it really, it's like, what is it? How does it affect you? You know? Who are they?

The Osbons? So what? I can't sit in my balcony naked with a shotgun. Give me a break. Well, I will say this about hanging the undergarments out. What you don't know is it's come up on the show a few times. Carl does shit himself pretty regularly. No, I don't.

Come on. So that could be something to do with it. Be honest. I don't do that. I've done that once. But how does it affect them? I'd just say it's an eyesore. Well, this is a ridiculous thing. We've got a balcony

and I've got a little clothesline thing. And what they've done is there was a huge hedge in front of our balcony and they cut that down and then sent in letters going, oh, we can see your washing on the line. I'm like, yeah,

because you cut the frigging hedge down. The same people that cut the hedge down are complaining that they can see the washing on my balcony. Yeah. It's ridiculous. So anyway, because they've cut the hedge down and they've just done it again now, there's nothing there. I got home drunk the other night and you've given a big clue as to what happens next.

It was very hot and I decided to sit on my balcony naked. Oh, brilliant. Yeah. And I went... For context, it is also worth noting that there's a school directly opposite. Let's get the full details in. It is a primary school. Is it a school day?

No, it wasn't. It was about midnight. Drunk on a school day. Anything's possible. Just need to know the facts. Yelling at the kids, Your dad cut me bloody heads down. This is why you're seeing this.

Are you all lesbians in there? They did have a lot of high-pitched voices for eight-year-olds, so that's a fair question. So I got home and I went, oh, I'm just going to, it's very, I get very hot. I get, my body gets very hot. So I sat naked on the balcony, and then the neighbor came home. And because it was midnight, I went, this is all right. He can't see me. But he got home, and he got out of his car drunk.

And because he was drunk, he had the same sort of thing in his head where it was like, who cares? Because I sat there and went, I don't care. He's not going to see me. He got out of the car and just looked up and just looked at me for 10 seconds, just didn't say anything. And I thought, I'm going to hold my nerve here and not do anything either. Even though, even though I'm sitting in a really ridiculous position where.

Like he's a bear. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm almost flaunting what I've got. Like the way I'm sitting, I'm sitting in a ridiculous position. That's a power play. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And, uh, we just stared each other down and he just didn't say a word. And then he walked away, like walked five meters behind another hedge, and I just heard him go, Jesus Christ. And then that was it. And you get any letters for that? No, no complaints. So obviously I can keep doing that.

Anyone listening to this show for the first time on this episode is just going to have you now painted as just sex pest number one. A sex offender. Big time, yeah. All your stories are like, no, no, no, no, no, this sounds weird. But anyway, this little girl's in the boot of my car. And if I know Carl, he's saving up some good juice for right at the end too. I don't think we've even scratched the surface here.

No, no. I am delighted that you bring that up though because I was going to remind you that you've talked about that on the show before your neighbours complaining because we've got a bit of this going on at the moment. As listeners will know, I've moved house maybe about a month ago now, and my housemate has been parking her car just slightly in front of our house. And the other morning she copped the note on the windscreen from our neighbours saying, can you please not park in front of our house

because then I find it hard to find a park. And our street always has parking. It's like really big street. It's got like the extra parking bit in the middle, you know, like in the middle of the two lanes. That's up with putting rubbish in someone else's bin and them saying, no, don't put it in my bin. It's going to be emptied in an hour.

I feel like you can't complain about that because that's not a thing. That's not like being able to park out the front of your house. It's not a law. It's not a rule of politeness. It's nothing. You know what I mean? It's a thing. That's not like being able to park out the front of your house. It's not a law. It's not a rule of politeness. It's nothing. You know what I mean? It's a thing that doesn't exist. And so she's told me that that's happened,

which is just the wrong thing to have done because now I just go for it every time. Because I'm often, I'll go for a run in the afternoon and then I'm back from that run before our neighbour comes home from work. So I get the perfect time to just slot right on in there and cut her off. Yeah. So you have neighbors, obviously, in LA. Have you got any celebrity name drops you want to do in your neighborhood?

No. Because we talk to Paul F. Tompkins a lot and he lives next door to Danzig. So have you got anything to, you know, Glenn Danzig, the metal icon? No? No. Nope. So you obviously don't live on the other side. No.

No, I live in an area where celebrities would not live. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. I live in West Hollywood in what's known as the Russian Jewish Quarter. So it's kind of a, it's a bit grubby, but I love it. But it is not Bel-Air. Oh, right. No.

So no celebrities to speak of in my neighborhood that I know of. Although the Whole Foods, which is the upmarket grocery store nearby, certainly I've seen a few celebrities in there. And at the gym. Who? Don't brush over that. Who have I seen? Weird point to bail out of that story.

Emily Blunt? Yeah. What was she buying? Look, I imagine she's buying fruit and vegetables and stuff. I wasn't following her. I know this is hard for you to believe, Carl, but we're not all crazy sex pests. Yeah, see, if that was Carl, he would have hit in the boot of her car. What have you got in there, Emily?

Yeah, exactly. Is this, are you shopping for your lesbian sex party? Hey, as a joke to my friend Tommy, can I sniff your hair? You're a maniac. But at the gym, there's some great, great people at the gym. Awesome. Jeff Goldblum. Oh, awesome. Yeah, yeah.

Fabio. Oh, yes. Fabio, the same gym as you. Absolutely. He's there all the time. That is incredible. That is the biggest thing you should be putting on your CV. You go to the same gym as Fabio. Fabio, the same gym as you. Absolutely. He's there all the time. That is incredible. That is the biggest thing you should be putting on your CV. You go to the same gym as Fabio.

He's there. He's there all the time. Anderson Cooper. Do you know Anderson Cooper, the CNN? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gray-haired dude. Gray-haired dude. Silver Fox.

He works out there. Jeremy Piven. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, because we were in LA for like a week and we saw no one. We had that thing where you go over there and you're actively looking for stuff. And then mates of yours, Carl, just saw people everywhere.

Saw heaps of famous people. We saw nothing. It's weird that we didn't see anyone in our hotel room for the majority of the trip. Or in comic book shops or on the Walk of Fame. Yeah, very fair. No one was posing next to their stars on the Hall of Fame. Is that unusual? I don't know.

I saw Spider-Man out there once or twice. I'm pretty sure that was him. Those guys are amazing, those characters. They're the best. There's a documentary on them. Oh, really? Yeah, on those guys, those people who pretend to be celebrities outside. They're really...

Pretend to be the real Spider-Man. As if. They're not the real one. What if I moved to LA just to do that? Like, what if I said to people, I'm going to base myself in LA, and they're like, oh, doing what? Have you got a role on a show? I'm just going to dress up like Batman and hang out at the front of China's theater.

Well, not Batman. Maybe Wonder Woman. Yeah, maybe, I don't know. I'm trying to think of someone that Tommy could be. This is a fun game. Annie? No, this isn't a fun game. Annie? No, this isn't a fun game. Annie?

Yeah, Annie maybe. Dora the Explorer? Yeah, Dora the Explorer. That's it. Dora. Dora. When Facebook had Doppelganger Week, I was put on there that I don't think I look like anyone,

and then someone went, why don't you put Elmer Fudd? Oh, yeah, good one. Elmer Fudd. Elmer Fudd. Who said that? He's got a fat round head. Who did you go?

Did you do a doppelganger week? I did. I did, I did Adam Gilchrist, I think. Oh, yeah, yeah. I can see that. I've got a bit of that about me. Sure, sure. I think.

Well, it's one of those things where, you know, when you get those things where people say, oh, you look like this and you don't see it. Right. It was a thing where I, when I first saw Adam Gilchrist, I went, I'm pretty sure I'm going to be copying this at some point. Right. Yeah. It was, okay. You saw it coming. Gilchrist, I went, I'm pretty sure I'm going to be copying this at some point. Right. Yeah. Okay.

You saw it coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What about you? I put up a young picture of Robin Williams. Oh, yeah. But it's not these days. You kind of got to see Robin Williams in a certain light. Mork.

You're more of a Mork. Morkalike. Back in Mork days, yeah. No, I could see it back then. You're more of a Mork than a Bicentennial man. Yes. Yes. or a Jack. But go on to my, if you go onto my Facebook, you can see in the profile pictures, in archived,

you can see the picture that I put up there. And see what you think. See if you think that there is a similarity. I think that's the first time someone's ever come on this show and plugged their Facebook account. Most celebrities set it to private, but you're like, check it out. Go and see all my mates in there and see who's been tagged. You were saying this before you had neighbor problems in LA.

What sort of stuff? What are they complaining about? Same stuff. Same crap. I mean, like you, don't park there. Look, it's so annoying. It's just people just, I think neighbours, if you've got shitty neighbours, that is, that is just high,

high on my list of stress. Yeah. You know, because that's where you live and you can't escape that. Sure. There's just, we have a long driveway and, and Rach and I are both allowed to park on that driveway. I mean, that's, it's part of the lease. But, you know, this guy who lives next to this Irish guy,

and he's always up and he's going, could you please, no, this is about Irish accent, don't park in the driveway, the both of you, because, you know, if there's a fire, then, you know, how's the fire engine going to get into the, and I go, mate, that's not my problem. I mean, if there's a fire, how do you even argue with that kind of logic?

You know, it's so hard to, so, I mean, he's just a serial pest. You know, he's constantly going, just telling us not to do stuff. It's weird though, because I grew up on a farm and you wouldn't know it due to my strong social skills. You are wearing overalls right now with no shirt underneath for context. And it's hard to talk with this hayseed in my mouth, but I'm doing a very good job. So you're used to not having to worry about anyone. And then I moved to Melbourne and stuff like that, and there's people in my space telling me to put my clothes on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Saying, hey, stop calling me a lesbian. It's like, where did these people get off? Yeah, my dog was fine with all of that stuff. Anyway, it's such a weird thing to be so close to so many people. And it's like a big share house in a way because there's all that, like you said, leaving notes on cars and stuff, all that horrible share house stuff where you leave a note on the fridge instead of talking to someone directly.

Well, I had a house in LA before this one, where I'm at now. And when I was out of the house, the landlady would just let herself in all the time. Oh, that's weird. And I always suspected it because I remember kind of going, I don't remember putting that there. I really, like little things that just used to drive me crazy going, am I going nuts? Like, I truly don't remember organising those bottles. I would remember that.

Until a mutual friend of ours, Troy Kinney, came and stayed at my place for a while. And what happened was I would leave and she would see my car gone, assume the place was empty, let herself into the house. And there's Kinney on the computer going, can I help you? She's like, sorry, didn't think anyone was home. Sorry, sorry. Sprung.

Like busted. So she knew she was doing the wrong thing? Look, that is breaking and entering. on the computer going, can I help you? She's like, sorry, didn't think anyone was home. Sorry, sorry. Sprung. Like busted. So she knew she was doing the wrong thing? Look, that is breaking and entering. It doesn't matter that she's the landlady. She can't let us. I'm not making that up, am I? I don't think you can let yourself into the house without permission.

But I guess that would be a thing if you're a landlord, you would believe that you can. But I still think she knew that she was doing the wrong thing. I'm pretty sure she knew she got busted then. Well, now her and Kenny are happily married. Yes, I know. So I worked out for the best. Every silver lining, yeah.

Well, I had the same thing. I had a share house in Ballarat, Klang. And the same thing happened where I was complaining to the landlord going, oh, we've got mice. We've got mice. And he goes, well, that'd be because of all the donuts you leave all over the table. And I'm like, hang on a minute. What? What?

How do you know about the donuts? Yeah. Yeah. And the table? I'm like, hang on a minute. What? How do you know about the donuts? Yeah. Yeah. And the table. Two mates of mine live in a house in Windsor, and they've got this, the first day they moved in, there was this, like, bonkers lady that lives in the street. Like, there's something a bit wrong with her.

And, like, as they're moving in, she comes up to them and she goes, I'm not allowed to eat chicken, and I'm also not allowed to eat lamb. And they're like, okay, righto, good. But she's now, because she's like seen them move in, she's now around the house all the time. Like she'll ring the bell and just try and invite herself in and hang out with them. And just it's like got a crush on my mate Drew.

She's like, oh, where's Drew? Here, where's Drew? Like she's a full-on Froot Loop. And now like when you go around to the house, there's like a special knock that you've got to do to get in because any time there's just one ring on the belt, it's like, no, it's her, and they hide under the couch and shut the blinds.

Like, it's really full-on. But they've had enough of it. But my mate loves living in that area, my mate Charlie. And so he goes, oh, we've just got to get out. We've got to get away from her because she's too much. She's too full-on. So, yeah, we're going to move out. And we're like, oh, where are you looking?

He's like, oh, in the same street preferably. So that cycle's just going to start again. Unless you can manifest some situation in which you get her out of the street for the two days that you're moving, I think that's just going to be the same problems but slightly closer to Chapel Street than you are now. But who can predict? Who can predict what that Froot Loop will do? I mean, it's, you know, maybe you move to a different house

and maybe it's the house that's keeping her there. Yeah. It could be. Maybe she's a spirit. Maybe she's like the ghost of the house. Yeah. Maybe she ate a chicken and lamb pizza there once and it killed her and now she's like trying to warn people.

Well, let's stop guessing. Let's introduce her. Welcome to the show, Crazy Spirit Lady. We've got her on line six. She's here to guess the secret sound. What do you reckon it is? Is it your mate Charlie? Oh, great.

You're off. Get out of the show. Hey, I've got a bit of mailbag here, Josh. Sometimes we get correspondence from listeners. Got this during the week from a guy called Mark Godden. Loves the show. He heard us on Barry and he's caught up and really enjoys it. Barry Digital Radio.

Yes. Yep. Yep. Where are we? I work as a train driver for Metro. Oh, and I know what you're thinking. Huge clang. I was talking to a fellow driver who said he was originally from Maryborough.

Oh, then that's where I'm from. Hometown of one Cal Chandler. Okay. Clang, I was talking to a fellow driver who said he was originally from Maryborough, hometown of one Carl Chandler. So I asked him, did he know Sunshine Johnson? Josh, local crazy person who is quite famous on this show and in Carl's hometown. I asked him, did he know Sunshine Johnson? To which he replied, oh yeah, and then described him as being the pinnacle of all village idiots and told me a story of going drinking out bush with him where Sunshine Johnson got so drunk he got nude and fell in the fire. True or false? No, it was a chicken shop.

Okay, there you go. False. Get your facts straight. Yeah. I've attached a photo of him, brackets John Barber, and I'm hoping that Cal and his mates had a nickname for him. Oh, really? Yeah.

And I've got the photo here. I don't know which one he's meant to be, but anyway, there you go. I'm passing that over to you. Right. Okay. Let's see if I recognize anyone in this shot. And I don't. Oh, okay.

Anyway. There you go. One of the little shits out the front of the fish and don't. Oh, okay. Anyway. There you go. One of the little shits out the front of the fish and chicken shop. Sorry, the chicken shop. I just hate that the story about Sunshine Johnson, like he's the crazy man, he's the King Village idiot, and his story wasn't that different to the stories I was telling about myself before. If anything, it was better.

Yeah, he at least added a bit of fire. He was only hurting himself. Oh, he at least added a bit of fire. He was only hurting himself. Oh, man. I should have had a nickname for myself. Chippo. Touchy McGee. That's right. You know what? I reckon those two teenagers that you saw

with that young girl in the alleyway, I reckon they're going to be like the you of Melbourne. And now anytime they see you, they're going to be like, oh, it's, it's, are you a lesbian? Yeah. It's old sexuality guesser. They'll have their own podcast and talking about you as their own. What is it?

Crazy Johnson. What's his name? Sunshine Johnson. Sorry. I'm sorry. You'll be the Sunshine Johnson of Melbourne to those guys. Hey, Josh, before we get out of here, we want to, I mean, before we get out of here, we've talked a bit about the film. We've talked a bit about the press junket.

We've talked about LA, all serious stuff. But what we really want to get onto is Sea Patrol. Now, this is a fascinating part of your history. I don't feel bad for bringing it up because it is listed on your bio on Twitter that you are the only person to have been sacked from the show Sea Patrol. It's true. True story. True story.

Guys, take a seat. Let me tell you a tale. The sea was angry that day, my friends. Look, Sea Patrol was a strange job. It was one of, in all honesty, you know, it was a fine job, but it was a job I did for money. I did it for cash. I remember at the time I was really, I was broke.

I can see why you were taking offense of being corpse number two in Water Rats, that reference before, because it was your competition. A little close to the bone. Rivalry almost. Well, I mean, I really think you're overestimating how recently Water Rats got axed. That has not been on the air for a long, long time. I just thought it would have been funny because you've crossed the border. You've gone from patrolling the sea to being a corpse in it.

It seems like a natural progression. I hang out with Colin Friel's a lot, so it's always in my head. I see. I see. I can tell. So I did it for money. I remember the time. It was the wrong reason to do a job, to do any job.

And so, by the way, this has nothing to do with why I was fired from it. It was just a really tough job. We were up in far north Queensland for a long time, months, you know, many months, and it was really isolated. And it was just, you know, you were just not at home. I can't even, it was a place called Mission Beach, and it was really. Man, that sounds like its own show. Oh, man.

Well, I think we outnumbered, the crew and cast outnumbered the locals. So we really took over that town. The sovereign nation of sea patrol. Yeah. Anyway. So when you're out on the boat all day, every day, even if you're in one scene, once you're out on the water, you have to stay there. Um, cause they can't keep going back.

Cause they need to be able to shoot in 360 panorama and not see land. Yeah. Right. Um, so it was tough. I mean, you were able to shoot in 360 panorama and not see land. Yeah, right. So it was tough. I mean, you were out on that boat all the time and it was just rough. And when the sea was rocky, you were throwing up and it was just hard.

It was hard yakka, basically. And when I got fired at the end of season one, I couldn't quite, this is the conversation, my agent, who I love, Lisa Mann, called me up and she said, all right, Josh, so Sea Patrol is getting picked up for a second season. And she said, all right, Josh, so Sea Patrol is getting picked up for a second season. And I said, all right, okay, well, I guess that's good.

And she's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Say, hold your horses. Because they don't want you back. And I said, what do you mean? They're recasting everyone? And she went, seriously, this is what I said. They're recasting everyone and she went seriously this is what I said they're recasting she goes no

no no no they don't want you back and I said so they're not doing a second season and she went no no no no

wow some classic Lawson denial really denial like I couldn't comprehend it and I said no no they are doing a second season they just don't want you specifically you

you were the only one not coming back. And I went, why? What did I do? Did I do something wrong? Like, did they, you know, did I say something while my microphone was on, on set, and did I upset somebody? She goes, no, no, they just think there are too many guys in it. And I went, ah.

You're more of a sea watcher. You're not so much a sea patroller. And that's why Tommy Dessler got cast. That's a weird coincidence because I'm just looking online here and the sequel for Any Questions for Ben has come up and it's now Any Questions for Wayne. So, shit.

Everyone back except for you. No. Very weird. So how did they explain away your character? They, I honestly don't think they did. Oh, really? I think the next, the chef-o, if you recall, became a woman, just became a woman in the next season. And look, to be honest, I called the producers

and they were very nice about it and they said, look, it's not personal, we just blah, blah, blah. But I was really honestly glad that it happened I mean I can't tell you what a blessing it was for me because I was able then

that was when I went to the States for the first time it was straight after that that I went and I really felt like I was starting a new chapter

like I was doing something new and I was just trying new stuff doing new experiences and Sea Patrol went for many many seasons and I would have

had to have stayed if they wanted me for all those seasons because once you start a show you contract yourself to what are called options. And the options are each season. And if they decide to keep you, you are optioned for another season. So look, long story short, blessing in disguise, I got to go. But yeah, I was fired.

And so this, House of Lies, is the first series I've ever done. Are you in the second series? Oh, shit. I'm not 100% sure, by the way. That's actually why we got you in here. It felt like it would be a bit of a softer blow if we dealt news to you. Just text me. Let me grieve in my own way.

Well, Josh, that brings us to the end of the little Dumb Dumb Club for another week. Josh Lawson, thank you so much for joining us. My pleasure, guys. Thanks for having me. Any questions for Ben is in cinemas now. House of Lies, well worth checking out when it's on Channel 10. Very fine show. And look, hopefully you make the cut of this episode.

But look, you weren't really in too many pivotal stories. So we may have to trim you out save it for the DVD extra you guys do do DVDs yeah absolutely they owe it to Fabio for us

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