The Little Dum Dum Club with Tommy & Karl - Episode 81 - Sam Simmons

Episode Date: April 18, 2012

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Head to comedyfestival.com.au. I'm also coming to the Sydney Comedy Festival from May 4 till 6. Head to sydneycomedyfest.com.au for tickets to that. Hopefully, I'll see you there. See you, mates. Hey, mates. Welcome once again into the Little Dum Dum Club for another week. My name is Tommy Dasolo.

Sitting opposite me, the other half of the show, Carl Chandler. G'day, dickhead. We are recording this the morning after our last live recording as part of the Melbourne Comedy Festival. Thanks to everyone who came down and saw those shows. Last night was really fun. We had Xavier Michaelides, Dave O'Neill and Andrew O'Keefe. And Blair from Neighbours was heckling us from the crowd during the show.

I don't know what order we're going to play all these things in, but yeah, you may have already heard this by now, but that was good. Blair just came in from the after party, the Logies, and decided to get in on the show. Yeah, it was insane. Here's something I didn't tell. I was going to mention this on stage. As I was walking downstairs after the audience had gone in, one of the front of house guys out the front of the town hall goes,

Dum-Dum, little Dum-Dum, man, your audience really lives up to that name and you can tell them I said that. I was like, what have they been doing? What's bad about the people coming to see our show? And what happened? Did you ask him? No, I didn't say anything more. I just was a bit stressed out already, so I just went,

oh, okay, yeah, good one. He was, like, really having a dig. I want to ask him. Is he there all the time? Yeah, yeah, he's that guy that's always out the front. Oh, the old bloke? No, not the old bloke. Just one of the ushers from the comedy festival.

Right, okay. Here's the other thing, though. Our techie gave us a recording of the show last night, and I put it in my computer this morning just to have a quick listen back to it. You know that Grace Note thing that looks on some database to find the names of tracks on a CD? Oh, yeah, yeah. But it's just based on how long the track is and how many tracks there are.

Yeah. It's searched for, because it's just one long track of our show from last night that goes for over an hour. It's searched on the database, and it thought the recording of our show was a CD by the Cecil Taylor Orchestra doing a one-hour and three-minute song called Trees. So I've updated it. I've put our show on that database. So now when someone goes and buys the Cecil Taylor Orchestra

Trees EP, it's going to come up with Live Little Dumb Dumb Club with Andrew O'Keefe. Wow, that's going to be quite often too. Yeah, that'll be great. Trees is in the top ten on iTunes at the moment. Yeah, so we're punking the Cecil Taylor Orchestra fans. Today on the show, a very special guest, someone we've wanted to have in here for a very long time.

We're wrapped to finally have him. Please welcome into the Little Dum Dum Club, Sam Simmons. Yay! Hey, I know that arsehole Usher you were just talking about as well. I think I know the guy. He's got dark hair, short dark hair. He's got real attitude. He's in Adelaide as well.

Right. There's a lot of Usher attitude this week. He's a touring Usher. Yeah, they are. That's what they do. They tour to all the different festivals. But they've got a lot of Usher attitude. They've got attitude, massive attitude.

I thought these two guys stopped me on the steps on the way up to the town hall and kind of gave me a bit of attitude on the way, like, oh, you're in our way kind of thing. It's like, no, hang on. I am the fucking testicle. Seriously, what are you doing? Well, they're little bullies, and I'm going to give them shit at the end as well. And they always are. I had that one guy that I think is the guy you're talking about, Tony. He helped usher people into my show, and I've got a thing about not putting old people in the front row.

Yeah. Just because I more. You don't want to look at them. I don't want to look at them. I don't. Because they're always like, oh, what's he doing? This is weird. So anyway, and he sat, he sat, and he was told this.

He must have sat six old people in the front row. And I went, I went kind of nuts at him. And it wasn't like, you know, too diva-ish. I wasn't Beyonce-like, but I kind of, I did crack the shits with him. But anyway, fuck him. I know they help us, but come on, drop your attitude, mate. That is a weird thing to say that to me right before the show's starting, like have a crack at our audience.

And like, I'm guessing he's meaning like your audience are dumb, but I don't know how they would just. Or little. Well, yeah. What are dwarves in last night? I don't know how you display dumbness as an audience just in lining up. I don't want to know what they were doing. Yeah, were they facing the wrong way?

Yeah. Just trying to eat a meat pie and just smashing it onto their head. No, we're here to see the podcast. And how are they any dumber than any other comedy that you would see in Town Hall? You know what I mean? There's certain crowds. There are certain crowds. What are your crowds like?

There are certain crowds. There are certain crowds. What are your crowds like? Oh, look, mine are, mine kind of like sway between like your whimsical hipster kind of, you know, very finger on the pulse, oh, this will be edgy, with like a really older arts fraternity crowd and then a whole lot of like really bogey triple J dudes. Oh, really? Like Geelong boys and guys from down at Torquay. Like real hardcore guys as well. That would have been the guys that would have beaten me up about five years ago.

And then they just come up to me and they're like, oh, mate, you're fucking weird. You're so random, mate. Yeah, you're random, mate. Do you put a bit of Hilltop Hoods in your front of house music? No, none of that. None of that. But I've got a really weird mix of crowd because it is the older artsy people as well, which is really, really strange. They're good.

And teenage girls. Yeah. Like Josh Thomas-y like teenage girls. It's because he's not doing a show this year and you're the next best thing. What about, yeah, so you're with Triple J. You're on Triple J a lot. Now, because of what you do, you must have, you know, you've got very, very positive, very great feedback and people that are really, really into you,

but it must, it obviously polarises people as well. Oh, look, it did. It used to. Not so much anymore. I mean, there's still a lot of hate. A lot of people get pretty angry at me. I mean, I can understand if you're a stand-up purist and you're really good at what you do,

you just stand there with a microphone in your mouth hole and you say stuff and it comes out and it's funny. I'm scared of that. That's, that's amazing. But I also like to muck around with stuff and I've got weird, weird soundtracks and props and all sorts of shit. There's nothing wrong with me doing that as well. But, um, I think the only people I really polarize are other comics. Really?

That's what I feel. That's what I feel. There's a lot of support, but there's also a lot of, oh yeah, whatever, take away your music and your seagulls. What have you got, mate? What have you really got? But generally with the audience, it's not so much. I mean, I will still go to club rooms and there'll be deathly silence at some things,

but I'm getting better and better at what I do, so that's becoming less and less. Do you really feel like that with other comics? I don't know. Oh, there's a lot of that. There is a lot of that. Yeah, absolutely. I've never felt that at all. No, no, there's a lot.

There's a lot of that. From who? From people who- I'm not going to name I've never felt that at all. No, no, there's a lot. There's a lot of that. From who? From people who- I'm not going to name names. No, from like straight- I'm not going to name- From straight stand-ups? The nomination list.

I'm not going to do it. I'm not doing it. No, no, just in general. Also, a lot of club comics, all that type of stuff, and I can understand it because I've had a great rise, and I've done really well, and I'm really proud. I do Triple J. It's pretty much the only thing I do, but I do, really, I do 18 minutes of radio a week. That's all I do with them. I have no tele-profile.

I don't get out there. I know I've done the galas and all that type of stuff, but it's word of mouth, and that's the important thing. The reason why I sell out a big room at the festival is just that people come out year after year, and they must talk to other people. I think some comics can go, what is going on there? Because it can't be a saturation. I know that I'm with a great management group as well,

but they can't make you buy a ticket. They can't force you. Well, because your shows are an experience. You know, going and seeing someone, you know, just talk for an hour can be funny, flat out funny for an hour, but your thing is like there's so much going on. Yeah, but it's not like a new Kitson show. It's not groundbreaking.

I mean, I'm running out of ideas. I did this year. I ran out. Just got to a point where I was just like, nah, what am I doing? Where I just wedged in a bit where I'm eating biscuits really, really fast. And then suddenly, what are you doing? Where's your dignity, mate? Where's your dignity?

Which is what, so after this Melbourne run, I'm going to go off and just sit in a corner and just like, you know, finesse it for Edinburgh. So I feel proud of what I'm doing. Think about what you really want to eat next year. You know what I mean? What the hell? What am I doing? What the fuck am I doing? I'm just standing there going, what did I do last year? I smashed tacos on my chest. Oh, I better eat some biscuits really, really fast. Well, enough is enough, so

I need to sit down and really, really think. I mean, Kitson must be running out of heartbreak. Do you know what I mean? You were so hard up for ideas this year that you had to get me in to do voiceover in your show for you. Oh, that's bullshit. My girlfriend got really upset at that. She doesn't even know me. Yeah, no, but she was also not very impressed at being thought of as a young puby fella. I want to meet her.

I'm not impressed with being thought of as a lady. You guys don't sound anything alike. I don't think so anyway. If anyone knows, people don't, we've got no idea what we're talking about, but we'll do that. We've talked about it on the show a bit, about people seeing the show and thinking that. That it's your voice.

And someone met your girlfriend the other day and then said to me, she does sound a bit like you. Oh, she does not. Damn it. Makes me think she's a really hormonal woman with extra hair or something. But we talk about this all the time. I just can't hear it with Dassler's voice. It's like everyone, literally people listen to this show on iTunes and don't know what

we look like and have literally written in and gone, I thought it was like a brother and sister act or whatever. A brother and sister act. Those great brother and sister podcasts. That's a great, That's a good comedy idea Well the funny thing is now Because I've been losing my voice And we're

You know For the listeners We're doing a bunch of these in a row Over one week But as we put them up on iTunes It's just going to sound to people Like I've just been ill For like two months

Yeah Like I'm just on death's door Getting the iron lung already He's fucked Like you're getting Hormone implants or something To become a real boy Almost a real boy You're getting huskier and huskier It's good Yeah It's like you're getting hormone implants or something to become a real boy.

Almost a real boy. You're getting huskier and huskier. It's good. Yeah. No, I like it. I've said this before. You're like Comedy's Huck Finn. Comedy's Huckleberry Finn. Look at you.

So what after, I like the idea of like if you ran out of ideas and you just did go straight stand up and you called the show Taking Away the Music and the Seagulls with Sam Simmons. Yeah, that's annoying, isn't it? That's a real, like, behind the... What's going on behind the mask? Hey, just speaking of

people who do weird shit, Dr. Brown, like his sensation, I've been championing Dr. Brown for years. Have you ever seen Dr. Brown, Carl? I haven't. I've always...

I know he's going to get on it now because he's been nominated for the Barry. The guy's extraordinary, but I'm going to tell you something. This is going to break... It's going to break every comedian's heart. He didn't even, he didn't write his show in any way.

Okay. And I know this for a fact. He got to Adelaide and because we're close mates and he's been busy working on something in the UK for telly. And he said, he was really sad. His name's Phil Burgers. And Phil's gone, look, I'm really, really scared about doing Adelaide because I've, I've literally not written anything.

I've got nothing. So he's literally gone on stage in Adelaide and just made the show up. The show still, there's nothing that happens in the show, which is brilliant and the genius behind it, but this has been his most successful show. Not one word has been written. Nothing is really repeated. There's a couple of awkward moments and that's it.

How does it make you feel? It hurts. Is it the same show every night though or is he making it up every night? He's kind of making it up every night but there is a form to it now but not really. The guy's a little genius mime punk shithead guy. It's just random stuff that comes out of his brain which I get accused of all the time. I was put off. He's going, oh, you're random.

No, I write it. I was put off by him for a, oh, you're random. I was like, no, I write it. Yeah. I was put off by him for a long time because of his flowering technique. Oh, it was brilliant. Did you see when he wrote the BMX into the walls? Yeah, yeah. That's the funniest thing I've seen. He'd write a BMX full pelt into a wall, come off and go, oh, God.

And then people would rush him, and then he'd start flowering. I actually just think that Phil Burgers is a way funnier name than Dr. Brown. Yeah. I reckon he should be using that as his stage name. What about you just saying, you know, he hasn't written a single word of his show and he's been nominated for an award. Just watch every stand up next year, get on the Dr. Brown train and not write anything and get up opening night and go, yeah, I was in the shops.

No, no, no. The thing is, he's a mime. He's a mime. It's not going to work. Guys, don't do it. Hey, set list is scary, isn't it? Speaking of just things coming out of your face. Are you just reading through the comedy festival?

No, no. I'm just thinking about, oh, no, there's a narrative loop to all this. Because that's basically, you know, the format of set list. Yeah, to give the audience some context, set list is a show that's on during the comedy festival. It's travelled around the world and comedians get up. They don't do their gear. They get given a list of topics as they step out on the stage.

But not topics like sandwiches or airline food. It's like, you know, charcoal rape. Yeah. Well, my first one was what's up with Jews? And then there was a racial thread throughout the whole thing. Whereas the person before me had things that were for me, like dog goggles, you know, frog spawn. I was like, I can work with that.

You had five minutes on both of them already. Yeah, completely. That was, it's just brilliant. But yeah. How did you go? I did pretty good. Because it's not how you, it's not how slick you are. It's how you fall.

Right. Do you know what I mean? What does that mean? Well, if you, if you really, like Dave Blustein's very good at it, but he's very slick. It's like he's got punchlines already ready. But it's a little bit like, I'm just listening to stand up. Yeah. But if you're watching someone fumble and flail, and if they're flailing well, it's

really funny. Yeah. There's nothing. Is it short of frowzen? Short of frowden. Short and frowd? Short and frowd. Short and frowd.

Short and. Short and. Shin and. Shin. What? Shin. Shinlessroud and Fried. Shroud and... Shroud and... Shin and... What? Shin... Schindler's List. Schindler's List. What's up with Jews?

What's up with them? Yeah, so it's looking at stuff and taking great joy out of watching pain. Randy the Puppet did awesome, but then at the same time, you couldn't see the fear that was probably on Heath MacArthur's face. I don't know if you're just watching a puppet slickly do stuff. You can't see a puppet sweat. It's just genius. It's just so stuff. You can't see a puppet sweat. It's just genius. It's just so much fun.

It's like a comedy baptism. Well, it's like that, you know, you watch Whose Line Is It Anyway or whatever, and there's a different emotion going through you watching it because you know that you're sweating for them. You're in safe hands. Yeah, you know that they're making it up, so your expectations are lowered. Whereas if you watched Whose Line Is It Anyway and knew that it was like a scripted show, you'd go, oh, that's a bit average.

That's not- But at the same time, you're watching that show on telly, so you know that no one's going to bomb on the show on the telly. Like, it's not going to have made the air. Yeah, but you do watch bombing happening. I mean, I got booed at a point. Where? In the show, in the set list show.

Really? Yeah. My defense mechanism for Judaism was not great. It was really not great. Was this just a Bluestein booing at you? Yeah. Oh, I didn't think about that. Yeah, and Provenza as well.

But no, it's just extraordinary fun. Oh, poor little Tommy. I hope he lives. He's a little sick. And then I died. Spoiler alert for your show. Well, what about this? Carl, you went and saw Mr Simmons' show

The other night Yes And you ended up as part of it Yeah we've talked about that We've talked about this But not with Sam Yeah fair enough Are you alright

Because Carl bit you on the neck Didn't he Yeah he had a little nibble Well I thought What would Sam want me to do Well there's another thing as well What a It's a sign of a man Who's stopped trying Or didn't have enough time To finish writing a show What would Sam want me to do? But there's another thing as well.

It's a sign of a man who's stopped trying or didn't have enough time to finish writing a show, Phil Berger style. I'm just like, gee, I wonder what I could do now. That's right, molest a man. I'm just sorry. Let's put the molestation bit in the middle. I feel a bit guilty because if I had bit you harder, maybe you would have got the Barry Nome.

I don't know. I feel guilty. I should have done more maybe. It's been really fun though. The evolution of a show and a festival is great, especially in Melbourne because it's a real step up. Adelaide, it's Adelaide. It's great, but you're doing your show there and you can pretty much, it doesn't have to

be, it sounds pretty rude, but anyway, it just doesn't have to be. And then you go to Brisbane, you step up a little bit. This is the run that I do. Then I come to Melbourne. It's a completely different game. It's where everything's exposed. You're like, oh, that's a bit cheap. Yeah.

Oh, what am I doing there? But it makes you work harder. So during this run, I've mentally taken notes about all the things that I need to change for Edinburgh to actually lift it up to another level. Is not get bit on the neck by Carl one of those notes? Well, you don't have to start. Yeah. You're not going to fly him over with you?

No, no. Well, I feel bad because we've got because it shows how many people have seen our shows and how many people have seen your shows. I've got better reviews for that point where I bitch on the net than our shows. I've heard many more people come up to me and go, yeah, I like that bit. That's very nice. But it's a great show. It's always, you're the only person I go and see every year.

Thanks, man. And I see you usually twice a year. It's you and Eddie Perfect's dad. Oh, really? Eddie Perfect's dad never sees anything, but he always comes to my shows. Oh, right. I love it. And then I'm like, Mr. Perfect. And I've also got a massive group of lesbians

from Dalesford that hire a minivan. I'm not joking. That all come down, and I think they all go off for dinner somewhere, but it was last night when they were all in. There's about 30 of them. And I'll walk on stage and just a little wink like, hello, ladies.

Good to see you again. And they've been coming for like five years. So they get in touch in advance and let you know that they're coming? No, they've just come. No, they don't get in contact at all. Right. They're just there. Right.

Do you ever talk to them after the shows? Yeah, absolutely. It was in the second year. I didn't this year because we had to go off to another thing. Hello, ladies, if you're listening. It's such a nice feeling. Have you ever thought about just taking the show to Daylesford? Maybe.

I'd love to do something like that. Yeah, that'd be great. Regional would be great fun. Yeah, have you done your stuff regionally? No, just did a bit of Roadshow and that sort of thing. But no, not really. Roadshow is like Melbourne Comedy Festival that goes nationwide. So, yeah, that's weird. It's always been a weird concept to me, the Roadshow is like Melbourne Comedy Festival that goes nationwide. So, yeah, that's a weird...

It's always been a weird concept to me, the roadshow, because they take a lot of people who you would think maybe would be more, you know, Melbourne-centric comics and whatever, like to bring, you know, like you said, you and your seagulls and your nachos to West Wyalong. How does that... Is that usually... Like, do they get on board?

Yeah. Look, regional Victoria is pretty difficult. That's the only place around on the road show that's a bit, I don't know, something a bit depressed about regional Victoria, I hate to say it, but yeah, there's just something a bit broken. I don't know whether it's still a hangover from the bushfires and stuff like that. Well, I come from regional Victoria. I come from like central Victoria.

Hard people, man. You guys are really hard. Well, I would be petrified to go and do like even my stuff there. I'm like, oh, I think they would just come there to not have a good time maybe. You go to Queensland, they're up for it. You go to Western Australia, just bang up. You and I did a road show together a few years ago in Northern Territory. Yeah, we went to Alice Springs in Darwin.

That was great fun. I love it. I love it. You found a shopping trolley backstage one night and then you rode it out with aory. Yeah, we went to Alice Springs in Darwin. That was great fun. I love it. I love it. You found a shopping trolley backstage one night, and then you rode it out with a mop. Simmons. Yeah. Gondola style. I was singing opera.

And then you stopped and went up to the mic and went, shoppera. No, mopra. Mopra. Yeah. No, it's good. It's always good fun. They'd never go for that in Bendigo, but yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It's just something, yeah, something a little bit. There's some. It's always good fun. They'd never go for that in Bendigo. Yeah, I don't know.

There's just something a little bit... There's just some ghosts or something in regional Victoria. I don't know. I don't feel easy. I think Bendigo's all right. I've been to Bendigo. There's a Grace Kelly exhibition on there at the moment. My mum came down on Friday night to watch the show.

Oh, yeah? She doesn't even focus throughout the whole show. She doesn't like it. She doesn't like what I do at all because my mum's a failed jazz singer. Really? So she blames the children for having children for ruining her career. She couldn't sc focus throughout the whole show. She doesn't like it. She doesn't like what I do at all because my mum's a failed jazz singer. Really? So she blames the children for having children for ruining her career. She's failed. She couldn't scat well enough.

So she comes along and just looks at me and goes, no, no, not into it. And I go afterwards, I go, mum, did you like it? Like in front of the audience. She's like, oh, it was wonderful, darling. What was your favourite bit? Oh, you know, oh, the, yeah. My mum never comes. The neckline.

She's made no attempt. Really? Yeah. No attempt to come down This year I find that really Oh she's never come She's come I think she's seen me twice

Oh well there you go That's Well the same as my mum I think it's been three times now Yeah yeah That's alright She goes I think it was

It took her about Three or four years I reckon before she came And I'll be like Any interest She's like Oh maybe one day You know

Like Yeah Okay She's more like Like I'll talk to her And go Oh yeah the show Went really well.

And she'd go, oh yeah. What about, is there many jobs going around at the moment? Like are you, is there any office work going around? My mum still refuses to believe that I can do something with this. Yeah. So there you go. She, yeah, but she must be, she sees you on TV and on radio and stuff like that. She's, I mean, surely that's like a, at least with me.

Yeah. Like with me, it's, I do a podcast and what is that exactly? What is it? Yeah. Well, I don't know. This is getting really depressing. What did my dad, I walked into my dad explaining it to someone one day. A podcast?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What did he call it again? I think he literally called it a codpast. What did he call it again? I think he literally called it a cod past. He was explaining it to a cousin of mine. That's funny. That's really good.

So we mentioned before us on the roadshow together. Back to Tommy. Let's bring this out. You have a reputation, especially on roadshow, for being a bit of a bully. Is that unfair? No. Oh, yeah, actually. Yeah. Is it? a bit of a bully. Is that unfair? No. Oh, yeah, actually. Yeah. Is it?

Yeah. I'm an arsehole in real life. It's got nothing to do with Roadshow. Okay. You've been on your best behavior this festival, though. I think people have been commenting. Really? Yeah.

You've been waiting for a Simmons attack. No, no. The only one I really want to break is Dave Quirk. That's on a yearly basis. I am going to try and wank down bloody Ronnie Chang. That's for sure. Wank down? I don't know what that means.

It sounds like something you'd do. Break him. You want to break him. A bit of Chang-ing, yeah. He's too nice. Oh, he's wonderful, isn't he? Yeah, he's great. Where is Quirk?

Well, yeah, I've gone easy on Quirk this season, but maybe I'm getting old. I just can't be bothered. I have noticed that the last couple of years you've toned it down. I'm busy this year, though. I've got to do things during the day. Like, it's all a bit – it's become – look, it's such a joy to do all this, but now it's becoming like a job job, which is great. There's just certain things like sitting in front of the computer having to write going,

oh, really? Yeah. Quirk, we got into quite an argument, I guess, the other night with David Quirk because- You got into an argument. Well, I got in. Yeah, but you were stoking the fires. Kind of, yeah. He, because I said to someone, Quirk always asks me, when are you coming to see my show?

When are you coming to see my show? Has he? Yeah. God, he's needy. I know, but then- It's always about Quirk, don't you notice? Yeah, well, that was exactly what we're talking about because I- That's why I give him shit.

Yeah. He's like, when you come in to see my show, I'm like, you've never been to see one of my shows. That's unbelievable, isn't it?

But you ask me every year. And he's Dave Quirk. He's unbelievable. I had to shake him. I physically had a fight with this man.

Just always banging on about himself. I love him, but he's very selfish. And this is what the argument was about. And we said, we were saying, yeah, look, he was taking it up with me. I mean, what's the argument, man?

I mean, you don't go and see my show. You don't go and see people's shows. You only see your own show. And I've just brought that up. It's just a fact. You can't argue against it. And I know he would have said it as well, weirdly licking his lips at an angle, looking up at you with his country mouth.

He's got such an Australia mouth. Yeah, it just went round in circles. I know, because we were finished with the argument after two minutes. Anyway, whatever. So then we start something else, and we go, look, you're selfish, get over it, blah, blah, blah. We go on to something else. This is great.

And then he would go, yeah, but like three, four minutes later, yeah, but I'm not that selfish. It's not about me. I'm like, we finished the conversation, and you're still dragging it back to you. Of course you're selfish. We're talking about something else completely different. Yeah, well, I haven't seen his little gay play either. It's a sequel.

It's a self-proclaimed sequel to what you did with him last year anyway, isn't it? Isn't that what he said? How dare he? I wrote the last show. No, it's three gay plays in a row. Have you guys discussed this? No, with him we have. way, isn't it? Is that what he said? How dare he? I wrote the last show. It's three gay plays in a row. Have you guys discussed this? With him we have. He's constantly exploring masculinity.

It's bizarre, isn't it? He's on a constant search for what it is to be a man. So he did the weird one, which was the incident with me and Dave Quirk three years ago. Went well. It was good. Took it to Edinburgh. Died. Anyway. Horrible. Had a horrible time there. Yeah, really, really bad. Did they not have masculinity over there to explore?

We had on our second, sorry, our final night, we just got through, lots of nannies walking out. Just people hated it. They just openly hated it. The lesbians from Dalesford pop in? They didn't pop in.

And then on the final night, we had like a rugby tour group. But they weren't like young rugby fellas, which would have been in our favour maybe. They were 40 to 50-year-old men. And Dave and I looked at each other like, we're fucked.

They will hit us or they're just going to walk out. We performed so well that night that not only did we win them, that they stomped. This is after watching a very gay play, mind you, celebrating masculinity and exploring it. They were stomping. They were stomping in their seats and yelling out more at the end of it. And we're like, wow, we've made it. Anyway, never to do it again. Then next year, Dave's rocked up to do Bunny, which is a serious piece.

Did you guys see Bunny? I didn't, no. Yeah, me either. I was going to see it because he kisses a man on the mouth. And I was going to see it for that, but then he changed it. So then I didn't want to see it. Well, there you go. He's upping the ante.

He's done his serious piece. Got nominated for a Green Room Award for Best Acting. What? Anyway. Then, okay, backs it up this year with a show called Mandate. Him and Ben Bennett exploring masculinity over the dinner table. What the fuck? Dave Quirk, what are you doing?

For any new listeners, Quirk's been on the show a couple of times, so go back and listen to his previous episodes, and that'll catch you up on his character and what he's like. He's been on the show a couple of times, so go back and listen to his previous episodes, and that'll catch you up on his character and what he's like. He's nine in the mind. He's just a child. Yeah, he is. He's very childlike. And people misinterpret that as brilliance in stand-up comedy.

He's always a genius, just such simplistic knowledge. He's innocent. No, he's stupid. You know what he is? He's like Peter Sellers in Being There of comedy. Yes! Yeah. he's stupid. You know what he is? He's like Peter Sellers in Being There of comedy. Yes. Yeah. That's perfect. Yeah, the disabled guy that gets elected president of the United States.

I remember someone else describing him once. He goes, oh, it's like Dave Hughes meets Daniel Kitson. I'm like, no, it's not in any way. So you guys got into a few scraps when you were preparing your show, the incident? We did. We got into an actual physical fight once. Yeah. Who won?

I think I did, actually. Look, I think we were the first to actually get on the board the Ronnie Cheng train as well. We had Ronnie Cheng as a guest in that show three years ago before his big meteoric rise now. And anyway, Dave and I would fight all the time. And Ronnie came up, and this will sound racist like it's Asian wisdom, but it was.

It was just pure Ronnie Chang Asian wisdom. He said, you know what the problem is with you and Dave Quirk? We're like, what? He goes, Sam, you care too much. Dave, you don't care enough. Then Ronnie just went, Ronnie go. I walked away in a puff of smoke with a cape. He calls his own actions after he talks.

Isn't that amazing? Isn't that amazing? Like his inspector gadget. His wisdom was brilliant. It was. It was that I was caring too much and Dave just didn't give a shit. Yeah. Yeah, anyway, there you go.

But yeah, we did punch on it and that's fine. That means passionate and that passion in a relationship, in a working relationship. I'm sure you guys have had arguments. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just what happens. Yeah.

We both don't care enough, I think. No, but you know what I mean? Yeah. If you don't have that type of tension in any relationship, God, my girlfriend and I, we punch on. Yeah. Yeah. You punch on.

No, not in a really physical way, but we wrestle a lot. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I've got a massive, I can't show it, I've got a massive bruise on me and a thigh. She'll just kick me. It's great. I love passion.

I think it's good. With Quirk, like when you were doing that, when you're doing your show, he used to, like I'd talk to him every night and go, yeah, oh, yeah, Sam was just berating me tonight for like 10 minutes and like hitting me and stuff. No. And I'd just be saying. No, no, no, this is Quirk. I'd just be saying, oh, why are you doing this, Sam?

Why? And he'd be like, oh man, if you don't know why he's punching you, that's the reason. He's just being a dickhead going, oh, why are you doing this, Sam? Why? And I'd be like, oh, man, if you don't know why he's punching you, that's the reason. You're just being a dickhead going, oh, why? No, no, no. It was one violent moment. The rest was – because we wrestle in the show physically anyway, so it did get physical.

But, no, it was just one violent moment. I wasn't punching him every night. That sounds wrong. I think that festival, the best story I heard about you was you were at the Hi-Fi Bar one night and there was a guy in the top bar that just, everyone said just stank, just reeked of BO. And you've pulled out a can of deodorant from your bag and just sprayed him with it. Yeah, it's not good, man.

I've got a lot of things I should apologise for in the community. Actually, now that you say that at the start about how comedians, some comedians might not like you, I'm starting to think of all the things I've enjoyed over the years of what you've done to other comedians, so that's starting to make sense. Instead of sitting in some green room whispering to someone, oh, yeah, don't write this guy, you're more of a guy of seeing someone on stage and going, boo, bad comedy, boo. Well, you've got to stand up for what you believe in. And when I see something that's, when I'm sitting next to a misogynist, there's a,

no, do you know what I mean though? Like there is certain, there's, I've definitely got comedy morals. And when I see stuff that I don't agree with, and it's basically pub comedy, I'm not talking about soft belly or spleen, whatever, but like, you know, real brutal, I have to say at Comedy Club. Is it Comedy Club? What's that thing in North Melbourne that they'll never ask me to? Comics Lounge. Never ask me to that type of thing, but I, you know, real brutal. I have to say, Comedy Club. Is it Comedy Club? What's that thing in North Melbourne that they'll never ask me to? Comics Lounge.

Never ask me to that type of thing, but I have been there. They hit you up on Twitter recently, I saw. They asked you. I have watched some stuff, and I just go, no, not for me. It's just not for me. Yeah. And yeah, I've got my morals about that type of stuff. So they can get shitty at me about having my props and my little soundtracks and stuff.

I can get shitty about them and having their little bloody racist vagina rants. You started an award a couple of years ago. That's how deep your minds are. Well, I wanted to get back into that. Actually, that should come back this year. It should definitely come back this year. Yeah, actually, I'm going to reignite that. I'm going to say it right here and now.

The Johnsy's coming. Oh, can we tell the story? I don't think we've told that story before. The Johnsy. The Johnsy Award. Yeah, let's do it. Actually, it's coming back. I promise you it's coming back. Do you want to announce the tell the story? I don't think we've told that story before. The Johnsy. The Johnsy Award. The Johnsy Award. Yeah, let's do it. Actually, it's coming back.

Okay. I promise you it's coming back. Do you want to announce the nominees right now? Hang on, hang on, hang on. Let's tell the story. A thousand bucks on the line. Yeah, we'll do it later on. I don't know who they'd be.

I've got to think about it. I need to talk to Talia. Let's tell the story first. The story is that I was sitting in the Portland Hotel after a gig, and in the Melbourne Comedy Festival, there's a lot of flyering. There's a lot of hardcore flyering. You've got to use anything you've got to get people into the show. Now, there was a flyerer for one certain comedy company.

Yeah. Can't name them. No, can't name them. A desperate flyer. They were flyering me for a show and they said, come and see this guy. He has done this. He's done this. He's also been nominated for the Johnsy Award.

And being a comic, I know what the awards are and I know that's not an award. He has done this, he's done this. He's also been nominated for the Johnsy Award. And being a comic, I know what the awards are, and I know that's not an award. And I said, what did you just say? And he goes, the Johnsy Award. And I went, what? The Johnsy Award? And he goes, are you a comic? And I said, yes.

And he went, all right, and walked away. It's pretty, oh, look. And he made up, let's be clear, he made up an award to make it sound impressive. I was really shitty about it when he told me as well. I was like, that's just disgusting behaviour. But then you turned it into an actual award. Yeah.

You photocopied a list of nominations. You guys were nominees. Yes. That year as well. Yeah. And ironically, that comic that we're talking about wasn't a nominee, which is a shame. No. Considering the flyer was already spruiking him.

Well, also it was for best independent, well Melbourne independently produced act as well. Yes. And went to Oliver Clark. No. Considering the flyer was already spruiking him. Well, also it was for best independent or Melbourne independently produced act as well. Yes. And it went to Oliver Clarke. Yes. Yeah. Who I saw the other night. He's just hanging around. Is he back?

He's working for the man with the van. Oh, right. The people that- Puts on a great show. Right. Yeah. He does. Just move all the chairs around the venue all night.

Geez, that'd be great in a velour suit. Yeah. He's a friend of the show, Oliver Clarke. He's actually done our voiceovers for our live show. Yeah. Yeah. He's wonderful. I believe the Johnsy, it was announced at the final night party at the Hi-Fi Bar.

Yeah, we just stopped the band playing. Yeah, while the cabaret act was on stage. Did you really? And you were wrapped, and it wasn't even you. You got someone else to do it, and you're like, this is exactly how the Johnsy should happen, while no one's paying attention to it. Oh my God, that's right. I remember I was trying to remain completely anonymous.

Oh, right. We've really fucked that up. You were talking big. You were saying that you were going to get Will and your management company to donate, to put heaps of money into it. An email went around. I didn't hear anything back. But you've said on the record you're bringing it back this year. Yeah, it's definitely coming back.

The Dave Quirk Memorial Johnsy Award. There'll be a list of six nominees. We'll find out about them over the next 24 hours. When's it going to come out? It's got to be soon. Probably Thursday. Thursday. Give me some time.

I'm busy. Now, I'm on my way to soccer. We talked about this just before we started the show, but you've got some concerns over the international comedians this year. Yeah, they did this bloody big Sunday in, Sunday in Melbourne was probably the most beautiful day I've experienced being a human being in the sunshine. It was great. How beautiful was it?

Yeah, very nice. It was a corker. Especially this time of year when you're thinking, no, this is it, we're done for sunshine. Yeah. Oh, just beautiful. And I bumped into one of the most beautiful men that I've met in comedy. A guy, I've got a burp inside me trying to come out. Anyway, there'll be a vomit burp soon.

Carlisle Hackner, who's a Swedish magician slash idiot. And I love him. I love him to death. He's just funny. I have to go and preset my show because I've got all my fucking seagulls and stuff. Carlisle's in there setting up his weird card tricks and shit. And I said to Carl, I said, what are you doing in here? Because he takes a long time to set up his show.

I said, you should be out there in the sunshine. He goes, yeah, yeah, all the international, I won't do his accent, but anyway, all the internationals are going off to play soccer. And I was like, oh, right. Okay. And he goes, yeah, yeah. They didn't really tell me until too late. And I was like, Carl kind of explained it, that he was an afterthought being a part of the internationals.

When I say the internationals, I mean the, what do you call them? The English and the Irish. Right. That's it. The Europeans. Exclude everyone else. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, no, because Carl's a European. Oh, yeah. He's not allowed in there. Poor little Nordic, little Ikea fella. And anyway, so they've organised this big soccer match and no one else was invited. And I just think there's a bit of, they come over here and they steal our women and our awards and our hearts and they go play their little game of soccer. I don't know.

It's a shame. They're all snobby. They're a bit snobby. It's a shame because I, yeah, I mean, all the Australians, we're playing a game today. Well, I didn't know about that until you just mentioned to me then as well. You're the Carlisle Hackner of Melbourne. Yeah, absolutely.

I never get invited to stuff. And I know I'm an arsehole, but I'm a nice guy. And I support people. Johnsy Award. Do you play soccer? Are you into it? I can't do it now. I've got to go to work. Yeah.

But do you play? No. Oh, okay. You just want to be invited. You just want to be invited. I do Aussie rules. You want to be part of something. You want to be part of something.

It's a shame because the other night, because I've been very conscious of it this year. I'm aware that there's like internationals who play soccer. I'm very much into soccer. I want to play with the internationals. I've been going conscious of it this year. I'm aware that there's like internationals who play soccer. I'm very much into soccer. I want to play with the internationals. I've been going up to them individually going, so is there any game on this week or anything? And they're just like, oh. Well, there is.

And they're not letting you know. No, no. But who are you? Who are you to think that you deserve to be in with that game? That is not fair. That is so not fair. They think they're so good, especially that bloody whimsical bully crew. The ones are all floaty coloured pencils and bloody crayons drawing circles

and talking about, you know, bloody teapots and doilies. I'd love to name names. I would love to name names. This little shit crew, little English shit crew of bloody colouring in pencils. They just shit me to tears. Name names. Especially when they're loiter, even in the hi-fi bar in the corner. Just give you a little look like, maybe we should talk to you.

Does he deserve our time? Well, there's one bloke who I... I can draw a perfect circle with a crown. Fuck off. And then I died. I was talking to the great Daniel Kitson He was talking about I wasn't talking about Daniel Kitson was I?

No, no, no, not at all But I am, I am, I've got a new story I was talking to him I was talking about the soccer and he's like Yeah, yeah, I'll invite you along And then he goes, I'll grab your number I'm like, really? And I could just see him going

That's not my number That's not my number going into your phone Oh no, that's not nice So yeah, I'll grab your number. I'm like, really? He goes, yeah. And I could just see him just going, beep, boop, beep. That's not my number. That's not my number going into your phone. Oh, no. That's not nice. So, yeah, I didn't get the call. I didn't get the call. Poor Carl. It's just me with all the open mic.

It's all right. It's pretty boring anyway. They just sit around and, you know. Poor Carl Einer Chandler. Knitting and slow cooking. Maybe it's only five star in the Guardians that get to play this game or something. Yeah. I was invited.

Yeah. All right. That was less interesting. I was invited. Alright. That was less interesting. End of the podcast. Can we talk about this, about what you've been doing during the day, during the festival, or is that under wraps? Yeah, I can't go into mega detail about it, but I am doing a project

with Neighbours. This is so exciting. Yeah, I keep seeing all these retweets and stuff on Twitter. It's one of the most, it's one of the only times I've gone yes, like emphatically to a commercial, well, just to something commercial. Yeah. The ability, and I can't really go into detail about what I'm doing, but I'm able to basically molest an Australian icon.

And I could not say no. I just could not say no. This is going to be so much fun. Bindi? No, Neighbours is the icon. I don't mean molest someone on the show. I don't mean me and Toadie are going to get weird. There are a lot of seagulls moving into Ramsey Street.

Look, I can't go into it, but it's going to be so much fun. I really hope it works. I've got a good feeling about it, though. And it's a really absurd choice that they've made to let me do it as well, and it's so cool. So it's not just you. How adventurous are they that they're going to get an Australian absurdist? Yeah.

One that doesn't have a massive profile, but the ability to do something pretty weird with the cast of Neighbours is like, you guys think outside the box, which is awesome. So it's not just you making some cameo. It's bigger than that, is it? Yeah. Wow. It's great. It's really, really exciting. So it's not just you making some cameo. It's bigger than that, is it? Yeah. Wow. It's great.

It's really, really exciting. So I'm working on that at the moment. I head out to... Nunawading? Yeah, at least twice a week at the moment. It's pretty weird. It's weird, and they're all into it. They're all into it.

The cast are just sensational. Do they know your stuff? Have they been to your shows? No. A couple of them do. Right. But no, not... Susan. Susan would be into it. Susan Kennedy. Look, I can't... You know what? I? No. A couple of them do. Right. But no, not... Susan.

Susan would be into it. Susan Kennedy. Look, I can't... You know what? I can't actually... We can't do this shit. Really? We just can't do it yet.

Wow. I know. I have to shut it down, guys. I know it sounds really weird, but I just don't want to scare some of them off just in case they do hear something. Yeah. Because I'm not... Yeah, anyway.

What if you are... I'm not going to besmirch you, Neighbours. It's going to be all right. What if you get the Dalesford lesbians? If they get them a cameo on Neighbours? That'd be great. What if they all moved into a rangy tree? He can't say too much. Why not?

That'd be good. All I'll say is there is one house in Neighbours on the corner block that's never been lived in. Someone's moving in. This summer. Let's end the podcast now because I just want to hear what's actually going on. Let's talk about this quickly to wrap up. A bit of listeners will know I've got new housemates.

I was living with, it was me and my girlfriend and then a girl, and she's moved out and now a couple have moved in. And a bit of a weird shift in the house going on where because it was me. Because you've got like a labourer. That's it. That's what's happened. Because it was me and two girls, I was by default the alpha male of the house. The anti-Dassalon.

Yeah. And now there's a labourer in there and it's sort of, it's brought me down a couple of perches and it's weird. I'm not handling it. To be fair, I reckon some of the girls that lived in the house would have been more alpha than you. Well, I mean, I said by default, by pure default. And the other thing is our old housemate was like a bit shit with like the dishes and stuff

like that. But these new guys are great. Like they're washing their plates as they're eating off them pretty much. Like they're insane. That'll stop. You're in the honeymoon period. Yeah, maybe. But now it's made, like you know you were saying to me ages ago, every house needs a

bad guy. And I was fine with this girl being in our house because it was like just taking the heat off how shit I am. I feel like I'm exposed now. I feel like there's nowhere else to run. We've got a laborer. The girl does like a lot of sewing and stuff. So she's really handy.

So she's like, you know, my girlfriend ripped her dress. So our housemates like repairing it and stuff. And what have I got? I got nothing. Well, when you said that the other girl was the bad guy in the house, I did feel sorry for, you know, the house because if you're not the bad guy in the house, then she must have been pretty shit. But now I am.

I've got nowhere to hide. I don't know what to do. Get a skill. Yeah. Get a skill. Grow up. Quilting. Maybe quilting or darning.

If I offer them tickets to my show, is that enough? Make jam. Jam. Jam? Any ye olde craft. Yeah, maybe I need to do that. I've got a PlayStation. They can use that when they want. Is that enough? No. Fuck. Jam? Any ye olde craft. Yeah, maybe I need to do that. I've got a PlayStation. They can use that when they want.

Is that enough? No. Fuck. Just get a craft. Like little pickled people. Remember them? No. Tire swans.

Remember tire swans? Are these things? Are these things? They are real things. Really? You should know. You're from bloody West Wyalong, aren't you? Yeah, yeah.

You know what a tire swan is? You know at the front of houses you have an old car tire that someone's folded into a swan, like cut it in a certain way. I've never heard of that. Really? Have you? No. Wow. People out there will know what I'm talking about.

There are swans and you paint them white and you turn it into a tyre swan. It's a little crafty thing. A lot of little gum nut people with googly eyes. Yeah, I know that. That's a craft. Yeah. That type of thing. Just get a craft.

You'll be fine. Okay. Maybe I could, yeah, I should take up something like that. Yeah, yeah. Reclaim your alpha status in the house by making gum nut babies. Yeah, it's pretty confronting. You'll be fine. Okay, maybe I could, yeah, I should take up something like that. Reclaim your alpha status in the house by making gum nut babies. Yeah, it's pretty confronting. It's really confronting.

Or learning to cook. If I learn to cook really well, that could be something. That's always something. Because I'm not even in the house, doing festival every night, I'm not even around. I've got no,

I've got nothing. It feels like you're just forever in TAFE or something. That you're living like someone that's in TAFE. Just moved out of your mum and dad's and you're still learning accounting or whatever. Certificate 2.

I want TAFE for life. I want TAFE for life. You know that, Dazzo? He's a little bit TAFE. He's still a bit TAFE. You were telling me once about you had a housemate that you would pull pranks on all the time. Oh, lovely Max. Yeah.

I've done awesome things to him over the years. Yeah. I bumped into an old housemate that reminded me of an incident, which I've talked about before, but it doesn't come up often. We ran out of toilet paper in the house and I used a slice of bread and I had to argue this. I had to argue this for years. I've had to argue as to why I used a slice of bread,

which was pretty okay to do, I think. This happens to me regularly. I'll be in a public toilet. But why did you have to argue? You obviously went out and told someone about it, or did you replace it back in the loaf? Well, I said, well, Darren said there's no toilet paper left. I said, yeah, I know.

And he goes, what did you do? And I said, I used a slice of bread. And he's like, you know. And he goes, what did you do? And I said, I used a slice of bread. And he's like, you what? And I said, no, it makes sense because I used the crust. It was soft on one side. My finger wouldn't tear through it. And it just flushed away. Oh, of course, the crust at the end of the life.

There's nothing wrong with it. No one likes the crust. Did it flush? Yeah, well, it did after a while. It kept floating at the top and then. Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah. But anyway, it worked.

This happens to me regularly. I'll be in a public bathroom and there'll be no toilet paper and I'm forced to just go through my wallet and use like old receipts that I've been keeping for tax purposes. Or you get a bit of the toilet cartridge, the roll, and fold it in a certain way and use it like a spoon. It's just not cool. I've been.

A sock? I've taken a sock. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, I didn't then use it. I must remember that. I threw it in the bin. Yeah. I've done a lot of it in the country. Like my mum and dad've taken a sock. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, I didn't mean you. Keep the sock and throw it in the bin. I've done a lot of it in the country.

Like, my mum and dad live on a farm, so I've done a lot of walking through the bush and going, oh, gum leaves. Well, that makes sense. Yeah. That's the natural way. Well, this ties into sort of what I was talking about before when we were on Roadshow together and you and I had a bit of a tumultuous relationship for the week that we were away. I think you think it was tumultuous.

It was fun for me. It was fun. You were a pre-quirk. Yeah, exactly. He was just warming up on you for quirk. Well, because you would say to people, if anyone wants to prank me during my set, go ahead and do it. Like, I want someone to fuck me up while I'm on stage.

Yeah. And you would harass me and everyone else would go, you've got to get him back. You've got to do something. And you told us a story one day about you. Oh my God. Yeah. This is a very poo-based podcast. Well, we've led into it.

About you one night being out at a nightclub and needing to go to the toilet. Yeah. Do you want to- I like the idea of you being in a nightclub to start with. Yeah. This is years ago. Right. Years ago.

I like the idea of you being in a nightclub to start with. Yeah. This was years ago. Right. Years ago. Quite inebriated and left the nightclub. Didn't want to do a poo in the nightclub, essentially, because the toilets were filthy. Started walking home, was heading toward Albert Park. Hiccup, sorry.

And anyway, I just had to relieve. I had to come out, so I stopped in a park. And anyway, I was really out of it. I won't go into what was going on, but I was pretty not right. Anyway, and there was just this one song going through my head. You know when you just get a song in your head? You know, like in a really horrendous part of your life or something? Or say you're just about to be in a car crash and a weird song goes on in your head.

Have you ever had that before? Yeah, every time I'm almost in a car crash, yeah. No, like when I was a kid and mum was going to give me a spank, I'd get this really warped version of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer going through my head. That was my safety play. I was like, Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. Anyway, so I was in this park off my tits having a shit on the grass

and just all that was going in my head was, right in the night. No, you told me it was Rhythm of the Night. No, it was Jam and Spoon, Right in the Night. I'm pretty sure it was that, you told me it was Rhythm of the Night. No, it was Jam and Spoon, Right in the Night. I'm pretty sure it was that. You told me it was Rhythm of the Night. No, it was definitely Right in the Night. Okay.

Did you not play the right song? No, I played, yeah, anyway, we'll get to that. Oh, maybe I just agreed. Anyway, yeah, so I told you this story and then you- You told me this story and then, yeah, and you were saying you had to wipe your ass with a leaf and final night of the tour, you're on stage. I've got now techie during the day to download that song

that you had been running through your head. Halfway through, you said it comes booming over the speakers. You look around and go, oh, no. And I've gotten everyone else on the bill to get all the toilet paper from the venue, and we just stood in the wings just piving rolls of toilet paper at you in front of like a thousand people in Alice Springs. And the beauty of it was awesome to us, but baffling to a crowd. And then you had to try and-

No, not really. It was in my set. Well, yeah, that's true. All right. You didn't have to give the context and explain, go, oh, I was off my tits in a park doing a shit. And the people of Alice Springs are just going, oh, this is weird. Yeah.

Yeah. No, I think they liked it. But it was fun. It was a fun moment. It was a fun moment. Yeah. I felt like you were really proud of me. I've got to go.

Yeah. Okay. Well, that brings us to the end of the Dumb Dumb Club for another week. Sam Simmons, thanks so much for joining us. Hey, thanks for having me. It's the first time I've ever done it. I'd love to do it again. Yeah.

We'd love to have you back. Where are you off after this, after the Comedy Festival? Where can people catch you? I'm going to go, I don't know, Nunawading. Okay. You can see Sam loitering around Nunawadding. You can see Sam on Channel 11 maybe soon. Yeah.

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