The Little Dum Dum Club with Tommy & Karl - Episode 82 - Charlie Murphy & Jim Breuer

Episode Date: April 20, 2012

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Head to sydneycomedyfest.com.au for tickets to that, and I'll see you there. See you, mates. Hey, mates. Welcome once again into the Little Dumb Dumb Club for another week. My name is Tommy Dasolo. Sitting opposite me, the other half of the show, Carl Chan. G'day, dickhead.

A bit of a special one today. We're sort of wrapping up Comedy Festival. We had two. We're lucky enough to have two international guests come in, but we can only get them for a short little time each. So we've recorded them and we're sort of going to patch them together in this episode. Yeah, very exciting.

Two very, well, pretty well-known international guests. We've got Charlie Murphy, international US comedian, the brother of Eddie Murphy. What's his name? Yep, from Chappelle's show. People will know his true Hollywood stories, sketches. Yeah, very well-known for that. And we've got Jim Brewer, one of the cast members

for three years of Saturday Night Live. So very exciting to be in the same room as these guys and a little bit intimidating. Yeah, and it was interesting. I mean, turning up and it's always weird for us when we're doing the show with someone that we don't know at all. You know, at least sometimes when we're doing Americans that we've like just met, we at least, we drive them in here.

Yep. So we get to know them a bit in the car. But this was literally, like we met Charlie Murphy out next to the studio in the coffee club. Yep. With his entourage, with his manager and his support act. Yep. It was very weird. It's a weird setup. Was that his support act? Yeah. Oh, with his manager and his support act. It was very weird.

It's a weird setup. Was that his support act? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. I'm assuming so. He said another comedian. So I'm assuming he does support for him.

And publicists and managers and all this sort of stuff. It's been a little bit overwhelming, hasn't it? A little bit professional. Yeah. It's a weird thing for us because yesterday with Charlie Murphy, we interviewed him. I mean, we've got a dozen entourage here, but they're not mic'd up. We're used to these guys. It's just McGregor with all the women that he's picked up.

But yeah, yesterday it was weird because we did Charlie Murphy and then he left and then I was in the studio next door and some hosts of an actual commercial radio show interviewed him in the same studio straight after us. And I could hear it. And it just really exposed how just lackadaisical we are about our approach to doing it. You know what I mean? We just sit down and go, oh, yeah, what's going on?

And then these guys were giving it the full commercial radio, the full vibe, the full gist, you know? Yeah. I don't know. I didn't listen to them. We were half asleep. Yeah. I was more interested in us.

Yeah. Oh, okay. Fair enough. But on the way here today, I was on the tram. I get the tram in here when we record and I had my headphones on. I was on my iPhone checking Twitter. Lucky that Charlie Murphy and Jim Broad didn't know the lives we lead. Yeah, yeah.

Getting the tram in here. Yeah. And an inspector came up and I didn't have a ticket. So I thought, oh, I'm going to get a ticket. This is just, this is just what happens. It's what you have to cop. And he sort of, he's, you know, gives me a bit of a, you know, take your headphones off and I take them off and he goes, are you okay?

And I go, yeah. Yeah. He goes, do you know where you're going? I went, yeah. Yep. He goes, do you, you're not lost. You don't need to know what street you're on. I'm like, no, no He goes, you're not lost? You don't need to know what street you're on? I'm like, no, no, I'm fine.

I'm going to meet Charlie Murphy in Jim Brewer. Yeah. And he goes, all right, cool. Fair enough. Great. And then just walks off. Then I got real, like, you know, sort of paranoid. Like, what is it about me right now that is conveying that I'm a spazzo who doesn't know where I'm going? Yeah. Like, what is it about me that looks bewildered or lost? What was it? Your clothing or your-

I don't know. You just rock- were you- earbuds, like, concealed so that he couldn't see them, so you were just rocking in time with the music, except he didn't think you were listening to any music? I don't know. I mean, maybe it was like- like, if I'd been on my iPhone on like Google Maps and he'd been able to see a map, then like that would have made sense. Were you injecting any drugs into yourself at the time?

That might've been it. Right. Yeah. I was, um, I was, I was chroming. I had a, I had the paper bag out and the spray paint and I was just really treating myself at 10am. Right. Okay.

Well, that was a sweet way to get out of a ticket. Yeah. Or if it was clean your nostrils out of, you know. All right, let's have a quick listen now to us interviewing Charlie Murphy. This is the Little Dumb Dumb Club with Tommy Dasolo and Carl Chandler. We are joined today by a very special guest. Please welcome into the Little Dumb Dumb Club, Charlie Murphy. Charlie Murphy!

Welcome aboard. Lovely to have you in here. Lovely to be here, man. Fresh offum club, Charlie Murphy. Charlie Murphy! Welcome aboard. Lovely to have you in here. Lovely to be here, man. Fresh off the plane, I believe. You just got here. I'm fresh off my bed, but I'm still messed up because the flight was 16 hours straight. I've never flown that long on a plane.

Usually you can go to sleep, but I can't sleep on a plane. Yeah. So I experienced a 16-hour flight. Yeah. That's our world. We do that to go anywhere. I think it would have been cool if I would have had a girl with me or something like that. Yeah.

You know, but. Well, look, to be honest, this is the first time we've had a guest that's had a full-on entourage in our studio. So you would have had these guys. I'm the first guest that doesn't have an entourage. This guy is my manager. Yeah. And that guy is a comedian. Right.

Well. Entourage, let's be clear with this. An entourage is a group of hangers-on, a group of people who really don't have to be there. It's getting checks for nothing. And I'm too smart to have that. Yeah, fair enough. See, in Australia, no one, the actual entourage

in the way you just described doesn't exist. So I think here, we're just impressed anytime someone has one other person. Has friends. Yeah. You've done well. Really? Okay. Well, I'm blessed then.

All right. So first time in Australia, you were just telling us before this, you were in Scandinavia in preparation. We were in Oslo, Norway, Sweden, Denmark. Don't let me forget every place. It was... Did I forget some? Norway, Norway, Sweden, Denmark. Don't let me forget every place. Did I forget some? Norway, Sweden, Iceland. That was the one. That was the one that really tripped me out.

Yeah. That I went to this stand-up comedy in Iceland, Rage Against Iceland. And we also went to Helsinki, Finland. Yeah. And Tampa, Finland. And of course, it must feel a little bit weird to, you know, you do your own thing where you live

and then you go to a completely different country that you know nothing about. And then you find out you've got Charlie Murphy fans over there. I mean. Absolutely. And then I make more while I'm there. So that's great. Oh, bonus. Yeah.

And I mean, they're the same crowds as in America, do you think? Yes, it's people. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And that's what has puzzled me about the whole fear that a lot of American comedians have about leaving America. It's like, oh, my jokes won't work over there. It's like, hey, man, well, I'm going over there.

And when I come back, they go, they laughing just now? Yeah. And they still won't get past the fear. They won't go. Yeah, well, I mean, it must be weird as well because you only started stand-up comedy. years ago 10 years ago yeah right so what you were 42 40 yeah yeah 42 i mean that's uh that's obviously you know late coming uh into stand-up i mean most most people i had the luxury of being on the fly on the wall around great comedians yeah

years you know well that's it i mean with you with your brother first yeah with your brother it's almost like you've you've seen him come through it's like a an apprenticeship it's like work experience for being famous a famous comedian so you've been around yes you've seen all the you've seen all the the bad stuff and good stuff and whatever and you you're well grounded to hit the ground running when you start stand up yourself yeah but i had to work yeah it's not like something that you don't have to work at it. You have to work at it, you have to do diligence on a daily basis, and you have to take it very serious. Everybody else can laugh, but your job is not to laugh, your job is to make them laugh. I'm fascinated with your back history about what you did before you got to stand up. You were a boiler technician in the Navy for six years? Six years. They don't even have that job anymore.

Right. They call it a gas turbine something. But those guys are miserable as I was because you're working in the bowels of the ship. It's the hottest part of the ship. And my particular experience was when I first went there, I had never been in an environment like that before and i remember i remember crying because it was so hot right it made me cry but you couldn't tell because it was so much sweat pouring off me the tears just you know that's how hot it was then i got used to it so you're that hot crying on the bottom of the

ocean god knows the bottom of the ship yeah yeah yeah it was it was rough man but i got to tell anyone uh the military uh it wasn't fun but it was very effective and i hold it solely responsible for uh making me the man that i am today because they they instilled certain habits that i that i still have yeah i'm late nowhere. I wake up early every morning. You know, I despise people who are not punctual, people who say, I want to do this, and they don't do it. And that's what was, you know, branded into me in the military. Plus, if your heater breaks down, you can just fix it like that. Yeah, exactly.

Especially if it's underwater. Yeah, if it's underwater, right. Now, and you've got a lot of, you know, looking at your history and whatever, what I really liked was you've been in a lot of different things over the years, like doing small parts and writing and whatever. But what I was fascinated with was the… I think this is going to be the same thing that I found. Oh, really? Yes, it is.

You're in a small TV show called Sunny Spoon. Yeah, man. And I played a character called Ratman. Yeah. A vicious Jamaican hitman called Ratman. Tell the whole backstory. Yeah, man. And I played a character called Ratman. Yeah. A vicious Jamaican hitman called Ratman. Tell the whole backstory. It's hilarious.

Keep going. That's all you got? No, all I've got is you saying he didn't talk, he just made sounds. I seem like Frankenstein. And when he was arrested and put in jail,

he chewed his own arm off and swam from Jamaica with one arm to Florida. Man. He was the number one arm to Florida. Man. He was the number one hit man in the world. Everyone was seeking him out to hire him.

That is ridiculous. That sounds like, I don't know if you're familiar with the band Major Lazer, but that sounds like the backstory behind that. That's what it sounds like.

Rat Man. Wow. And you had a lot of Rat Man fans in Iceland. Is that why they came to the show in Iceland? No, in Iceland they came because

they were Charlie Murphy fans from the Chappelle show. Ratman, that was on the TV show Mario Van Peebles show. Sonny Spoon was the name of the show. And he played

a different character every week and this and the other. I got to be on the show. Now, you talk about Chappelle show. Now,

I don't know if you get this a lot, but I would have thought, I'm assuming that a lot of people, myself included at one stage, does everyone think that you're real sometimes? Because they see that sketch and sometimes you go, well, is that a character?

Is that a... They ask me, was that story true? What would you do if I slapped you? All kinds of stuff. Yeah. But even the whole authenticity of who you are, because the first time I ever watched that sketch, I was like, okay, is this real?

Is there a person called Charlie Murphy or not? Right, right, right. Is this a character? Is that Chappelle as well? Is Chappelle playing everyone? I don't know. But obviously, I can confirm. I've had a very colorful life.

I'm built for this game that I'm in right now because my life was a joke. All the things that have happened and the places that I've been and me being a part of whatever was going on made it common. Of course, and that's the best thing, I think, about those sketches is that when you realize that it's all completely real, I mean, that brings it up to the next level. But I know people that are going to your show, like this year in Melbourne, going,

oh, is this just going to be Dave Chappelle being there? Is he playing Charlie Murphy? Dave Chappelle is not going to be there. No, no, no. Let me finish. Dave Chappelle is not going to be there, and he doesn't have to be there. I've been on the road for 10 years.

People say, how long has your tour been going? It's called the Acid Trip Tour right now, but I've been on the road silent for 10 years say how long has your tour been going it's called the acid trip tour right now but i've been on the road silent for 10 years yeah you know uh every weekend i had to force my management to go you're giving me three weeks off right here because you know my kids are forgetting my name so you know we got you know i'm saying so i've been doing my due diligence that's why i don't i don't accept uh any comedian, oh, you know, really? Really? Well, how often do you work?

Because I know I'm on this. I don't have no day job. I don't have no backup plan. I'm 100% committed to this. So that's where I get the results I get. Yeah. You must get with the, because of the Chappelle sketches, you must get like a lot of people just coming up in the streets,

just screaming. And yelling out catchphrases. Yeah, Rick James lines at you. Yeah, all of that. Has anyone legitimately just come up and given you the slap, the Rick James slap? No, but I'm not worried about if they do that because it has given me a chance to release some of my stress.

That would be an amazing thing to see. I could release some of my stress. Well, I know you thing to say. I could release some of my stress. Well, I know you don't like the term, but you've got your entourage here. I don't think anyone's going to be doing that in Australia. These guys are big, right? Yeah. He's a manager and he's a comedian. It bugs me out in the airport, people go, he has some big bodyguards.

Yeah, exactly. Little do they realize that these are the guys you don't got to worry about. Yeah, well, I've scrapped half my questions that I had planned because of these two here. It was interesting seeing all you guys sitting downstairs in Coffee Club before. How was it, by the way? How was your breakfast in Coffee Club? We had to go get a sandwich or something because, like I said,

my body clock is in reverse right now. So last night we went to a great – the name of that place was the Steakhouse. Say it. Rock Pool. Rock Pool. Say it. Rockpool. Rockpool. Very nice. Very nice. We went there and we had some tremendous dinner.

But I looked on my phone and I said, okay, it's 6.30 a.m. at my house. So my body is probably asking, what are you doing right now? Why are you drinking red wine at 6.30 a.m.? What's going wrong in your life? Here's a question for you that we brought up on the show a couple of weeks ago. I went to Rockpool a couple of weeks ago with my parents. I brought my parents along. I paid for them. I brought my girlfriend

along. I didn't pay for her. What are your thoughts? You're a pimp. Finally. Is that good or bad? All the other guests have pussyfooted around it Yeah You brought this girl You didn't pay for her

Yeah Pimp I'll take pimp I don't know Like a lot of people Have criticized me I'm going to take that As a compliment

That's baller man You know You ain't going to be able To get away with that All your life You've got to be A certain age When you pull that one off

Yeah That is probably The nicest thing That someone said to you About that story That you were pimp Yeah that's good I'll take it.

So downstairs, we were talking to your publicist just before, and she said, we'll meet you guys in the coffee shop. And she said, you won't miss us. Half of us are black. Right. And that was actually true. It's five of us, and we're the majority, and then it was two white people. So half of us were black. Again, all new experiences for us.

We've never heard a publicist say that about our guests before. What that tells me is that I'm doing something that is revolutionary. I was telling these guys that before. I said, at the end of the year, I want to pose the question to the industry. What other black comedian do you know that can say he toured the world for real? Yeah. I think I'm the only one. You certainly look like it. You've got a very impressive look about you. comedian do you know that can say he toured the world for real yeah yeah you know and you certainly look like the only one you certainly look like it you got the you know you got a very impressive

look about you got the the rock star look about you i'm pretty look i'm guessing that you didn't dress like this when you were the boiler technician no man i had one one outfit when i was a boiler technician and it was in my locker when you got a chance to get off the boat and go, I had that same outfit on every time. Yeah. Other than that, I had my uniform on, you know? Yeah. So being able to buy clothes and dress the way I want to dress is, I love it.

Yeah. Looking at you and your entourage and the way you're living it, it certainly makes me. Stop saying entourage. Sorry. It certainly makes me want to get a lot better at comedy to live this life. You're a comedian? Yeah.

Okay, man. That's what's up. No, listen, man. I this life. You're a comedian? Yeah. Okay, man. That's what's up. No, listen, man. I don't just take it for granted. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fair enough. Some people can be just naturally funny people. That doesn't make you a comedian.

We're both stand-ups, so we're happy to form the Australian leg of your entourage. I don't want to form that a person is a comedian because they're funny because I know some guys that are tremendously funny, but going on stage and being funny with your friends is two different things. So yeah, you guys are comedians? Great. We're best friends now. We're brothers.

Awesome. Should have brought that up at the start of the interview. Here's something else that I found in your filmography that I'm fascinated by. You're in a little film by the name of Short Circuit 2. Yeah. Short Circuit 2. Yeah.

Wow. I don't Circuit 2. Yeah. Wow. I don't even remember that myself. This must be one hell of an acid trip tour. Acid trip tour. You sure? It said that was in a film called Short Circuit 2? Look, if Wikipedia can't be trusted, what can be trusted? They all still said that I was going to be in Beverly Hills Cop 5. Everybody was asking me about that. Sometimes people just get

too excited and start writing things that I didn't do. Then again, was I in a film called short circuit okay so i know i was that's i like the idea that makes you even more impressive that then a detail like being in short circuit two could just slide away like that's you must have had quite a career if you could just forget something no that would make me nervous if i forget anything that i've done because I'm proud of all my work and uh you know anything that I've done somebody remember you were in so-and-so and I'm going no I don't remember that I better go see my doctor well because we we had a thing going on this show for a little

while where listeners would try and sneak references to us in this show into other Wikipedia pages right we haven't done it for a while but maybe we can my Wikipedia page is inaccurate right because it says that I'm a Leo and it says that I'm married and my wife passed away three years ago. It's a lot of things on there that's not really accurate. Right. Well, is there anything that you would like, anything that you'd like to make up that you'd like our listeners

to try and put in there? Any, you know? Oh, yes. I had male enhancement surgery three years ago. Now I'm sporting 16 inches of... 16 inches of pure Murphy. Of pure terror. 16 inches of Ratman.

And what does your 16 inches sound like? Chop his arm off and install it somewhere else. And you swam with it as well, wow. Yeah, I swam with it. Now, we've got an exclusive. You're not in Short Circuit 2. Do you ever regret coming up, you know, before you got into stand-up when you're doing your bit parts

and stuff like that, that, you know, you had a brother that was making movies and, you know, he could have been putting you in more movies. I mean, he was giving himself up to 12 parts in each of his movies. Surely you could have been the barber in Coming to America or something like that. He does play a lot of parts in his movies. He could have employed your whole family and he's just keeping all 15 parts to himself. That's hilarious, man.

But, you know, early on, that was one of the things that I had to work my way through. And that is, you know, people, they got exposed to Eddie. And me and Eddie are very, our face, we remind each people of each other. Yeah, sure. So when I started showing up for jobs, they would go, oh, this is Eddie's brother. So he must be just like Eddie. Let me hear you laugh like Eddie. And I'm a man at the end of the day.

I'm not trying to be anyone else. I'm proud of who I am. I'm comfortable in my skin. And I didn't come into the game to be a fake anyone, you know. So I had to work through that. And there's a lot of jobs that I didn't get because they expected me to be Eddie Murphy. But then the person who they ultimately hired wasn't Eddie Murphy either.

Yeah. You know? Because that's the truth behind that whole thing. When they go, well, can you be like Eddie Murphy? No, I can't. And no can anyone else on the planet. There is no other Eddie. There is no new Eddie Murphy or none.

That's Eddie Murphy, period. Whoever else shows up, they're whoever they are. They're not going to give you him. He's him and that's it, you know? Yeah. You don't want to be like, what is it, Gallagher, who's got like son of Gallagher who just does his dad's routine? Yeah, he just smashes watermelons.

It's just weird. Right? What you need to get is footage of him after the show when he's in his green room crying. Feeling disgusted, drinking a bottle of bourbon. You know what I'm saying? I'm comfortable in my skin. I'm doing me.

I always kept it like that. You get your full focus from your parents as well now because probably Eddie would drag the parents out to see his stand-up shows. Now that he doesn't do stand-up, they just have to come to your show now as well. Yeah, they do. He comes too. I would say as a stand-up, if he even started doing stand-up again,

that would probably be a gift for me because then that would clear up. He would not approach it the way I approach it. He would not come off the way I come off. He's not the same comedian that I am. Yeah, so he comes to your show, so he's fully supportive, obviously. Yeah, absolutely. Does he ever feel a bit jealous of you getting up there?

Nope, all he has to do is go home and all of that when he sees this big castle that he lives in. There's no reason to bit jealous of you getting up there? Nope. All he has to do is go home and all of that. When he sees his big castle that he lives in, there's no reason to be jealous of me. Yeah, but still that live, you know, he must miss what you have now where you're getting up in front of thousands of people. I'm sure he does. But he also knows the underbelly of it. Yeah.

You know, and the underbelly of it is that sometime you're going to get challenged. Yeah. You know, and you're going to have to deal with it. Now, there is nothing that you can challenge me on that is going to just pull the plug out of me where I'm going to lose it and become unprofessional. But there may be some things in his mind that he feels he may not be able to maintain

a professional level with. And you can't beat somebody in the audience up, is what I'm saying. Yeah. You can make them think you're going to do it, but you can't actually do it. There are comedians in Australia who have done that. There are comedians in Australia who have physically gone to jail

for beating up a lady. I'm sure there's comedians in the US that have done it too, but I noticed the fact that those guys stopped getting booked after that. I don't want to join that club. Yeah, you're not going to go to Finland if you've got that on your CV. If you've got that on your Wikipedia. He wasn't in Short Circuit 2 and he beats up people.

Knocked a few people out of the show for being disrespectful. No, no, that's not going to happen. I'll deal with you with this because that's what a comedian is. No such thing as a dumb comedian. To do comedy, one of the main ingredients is smartness because comedy is wit. Dumb people are not witty. You know what I'm saying? A comedian

has wit. A comedian's brain is spontaneous. It can spark from one spot to the next and he can deviate from the track and jump back on it. That's an intelligent person that can do that. Your mind is not moving in you know, in analog. It's digital.

It's flowing. That's a comedian, you know? Yeah. So it is a pretty awfully cliched question, but just out of interest, what are you looking forward to doing while you're in the country? Because this is your first time here. It's always fascinating to hear. Can I be honest?

Yes. Please. Please. Having lots of sex. Was that an Australian accent? Whose what? Was that an Australian accent? That was just the way it came out.

Did it sound Australian? Yeah, it's like you've... That means I might have lots of sex. You may have had sex already here last night and that's an STD that you picked up an Australian accent off someone. I would have been horrible last night. I would have had a bad rep. Yeah, I went up to his room and he fell asleep.

At least you had a lot of support around you, though, with these two guys watching you. They was tired, too, man. Nobody was doing nothing yesterday. That's just so nice to hear someone be honest instead of going, oh, I want to see a kangaroo or a plane course. No. I can't have sex with a kangaroo. Well, on your Wikipedia page, it says you can. I watch the kangaroo on TV. I can't have sex with a kangaroo. Well, on your Wikipedia page it says you can.

I watch the kangaroo on TV. I can't have sex with a kangaroo. This is another interesting thing. This is a weird coincidence. One of the true Hollywood stories that you did on Chappelle's show was about Prince. The same week that you've come out here, Prince has announced a tour that he's coming out in like a few weeks' time. Well, he's going to kill it because he has one of the best shows I've ever seen. Yeah, I can't wait.

He puts on a mean show. And at this point, he has such a huge library of hits. Those are the best shows that you could go to the show and the artist can actually stop singing. And you keep hearing this because the audience is singing it themselves. Yeah, yeah. He has a great show. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. So you live in L.A., right?

No. Oh, you don't live in L.A.? I refuse to move to L.A. Really? I'm looking forward to it. So you live in L.A., right? No. Oh, you don't live in L.A.? I refuse to move to L.A. Really? I live in New Jersey. I go to L.A. when it's time to work, but for me personally, L.A. is not a healthy place to live. It has too many things that I can get, you know, in trouble for. Yeah, right.

We were there in October, and it is, especially coming from Australia, it's a weird, weird place. L.A. was weird to you? Yeah. Well, especially here. Like, you know, we were saying, like, you don't actually see, like, many, like, you do see a few bit homeless people. Like, when you do see them, they're sort of seen. Oh, the homeless people in LA don't, like, no others in the world.

The homeless people in LA have wristwatches on. Yeah. They go to the beauty parlor. I seen a homeless person with a perm. I was like, you had money to go get a perm? And dye your hair blonde? Really? You paid money for that?

But we like Here you'll see them like Sitting against a wall At the front of a McDonald's We saw people just Slumped over like Head in the gutter On a corner

On a street corner Like The placement was what we found Most baffling about it But yeah But we missed it on the permed ones Obviously That was obviously a better part Of Beverly Hills on a street corner. Like, the placement was what we found most baffling about it. But, yeah, it's a – But we missed it on the permed ones, obviously. That was obviously a better part of Beverly Hills. In L.A., I'm telling you, they have wristwatch.

What do you have a wristwatch on? Where do you have a meeting at? Where do you have to be? Why do you need to know what time it is, you know? Yeah. That's L.A. Yeah, the homeless person with, like, all their stuff in a bag and then, like, a dog that's half asleep and then a laptop.

I never understood that part either. Why would you have another mouth to feed? You're homeless. That's all LA. That's how they do it out there. So whereabouts do you live? I live in Englewood, New Jersey. Oh, right.

I was telling these guys this morning, I was like, someone made me think for some reason it was going to be springtime warm here. I had to go shopping as a result I put a bunch of like short sleeve shirts and nothing to go over it and all that so I gotta go pick a few things up but I love being I'm glad I'm here I can't wait to learn more yeah I got a couple days to be here so we're gonna when I leave here I'm gonna be burnt out Yeah For sure

Great Yeah So what can people expect From your shows On the Acid Trip Tour To laugh That's all I'm responsible for doing Is making you laugh

And I tell people Before they come to my show I'm here to make your face hurt And I'm not a boxer I want you to laugh Till your face is hurting Pain You're promising pain Pain But good pain Good pain Bring Uriphen Bring Uriphen with you to laugh till your face is hurting. Pain. You're promising pain.

Pain. But good pain. Good pain. Bring Nurofen. Bring Nurofen with you to the shows. Good pain. Well, Charlie Murphy, thank you very much for joining us this morning. Have a great time on the tour.

To everyone listening, God bless, man. Have a great morning. And I hope you hit the lotto today. Thanks very much, man. That's what's up. So there you have it. That was us interviewing Charlie Murphy. What did you think of that, Carl?

Yeah, it was intimidating. Let's make it clear that there is a difference between the two interviews. So when we start talking to Jim now, there's not three huge black men in the room looking mean at us. Yeah. Well, Jim was also intimidating because we came into where we record the show, and there was a snafu with booking the studios. And suddenly we're having to run around and sort of embarrass ourselves in front of these international acts. And by snafu, you mean we hadn't booked a studio.

Yes. And then people are like, why are you here? Yeah, that's exactly. Well, that's the technical term. That's what a snafu is, isn't it? That's the industry term. Yeah. term, that's what a snafu is, isn't it?

That's industry term. Yeah. We should take a quick moment in the middle here to mention Punchline, our sponsors, whom I believe you can purchase both Jim and Charlie's DVDs through punchline.com.au, as well as all sorts of other stuff, like you mentioned. Support Punchline, who support us, who support your little show that you get for free. And you know what? Punchline are actually very good blokes, Yeah. And you need to support them because pretty much wherever we go out at night, the guys from Punchline are there buying every comedian a free drink.

So you're basically supporting comedy by supporting Punchline. You're supporting our alcoholism. Yeah, I've been sick this whole festival because of Punchline. Yeah. And I mean that as a true compliment. So let's have a listen now to us interviewing Jim Brewer. This is The Little Dumb Dumb Club with Tommy Dasolo and Carl Chandler. Joining us today, he's here visiting for the Melbourne International Comedy Festival.

Please welcome Jim Brewer. What's up, boys? Thank you very much for joining us. Now, let's address this at the top. We're recording this in a studio different to where we normally do, a different part of the building, and I've got a genuine fear that we are actually broadcasting this live out to Melbourne on Triple M at the moment.

Even better for Jim. I think so. Tickets are on sale for tonight's show. We're in Viening. Any mates of mine who are listening, if you can hear me on Triple M right now, text me for the love of God and tell me to get off. I think there'll be more important people than your mates contacting you. I think we'll be fine.

Like, we would know by now, surely. Yeah, especially if it's normally like a cooking day show. We just took that over. Yeah. Maybe try some swear words and see. That'll probably up the ante. Yeah, drop the C-bomb. That'll be the test, surely.

Yeah, if this whole building, the lights just switch off, then we'll know that we've gotten them taken off. Yeah. Now, we're very excited to have you because, I mean, it's a bit of a rarefied position you're in, having been part of Saturday Night Live for three years, which is seen as just such a magical badge of honour in the comedy world, I guess.

I mean, everyone, in in comedy um everyone sees that as like the dream job is that is that how you saw it well it's it's funny i i like going to masses because i'm i'm almost the opposite right when i i was just about on the brink of uh getting a following as a stand-up i was building stand-up crowd and when i got the show i didn't even before i even got the show uh the network it was the first year that the network said um we're taking over the show the show's terrible just awful nobody's watching we want out and so the network was huge fan of me and they and they asked me to audition and i said no i swear to god what did you have better to do well i was developing a show and

all i heard was this was like the worst it there were other comics i knew that came off that show and you would have thought they went to Vietnam. Really? It just mangled people's... Charlie, shoot them up. Yeah, Lord Michael's cut their arm off. Shoot them up, spit them out, left them homeless on the side. People hated...

People would leave there like, you don't want to go in there. You don't want anything to do with that. Trust me. And so I really didn't i said no and i think they were baffled that i said no and so they said no no it's all new writers all new cast brand new cares no finally uh i said all right i'll audition now i go and audition, and the next day in the newspaper, my friends start calling me up, bro, get the paper. Don't read it, though.

What is that? So I go there, and it says, Saturday Night Live searches for new cast, new performers of those already written off, comedian Jim Brewer, who auditioned yesterday. You already written off your audition yesterday. I just auditioned. That's all I did was an audition. And I wasn't a name. No one knew who I was.

So I was really, why would you even put my name in there? I'm sure that's nice that you're not a name, but you've been written off already. I've written off already. I'm already out. They don't roll off people they've never heard of. So that's something. You're out of there. I'm sure that's nice that you're not a name, but you've been written off already. Written off already. I'm already out. They don't roll off people they've never heard of. So that's something. You're out of there. Written off. Put in stone. Well, long story short, I didn't learn until later that it was a big political thing. That was Lorne Michaels saying

you're not going to tell us who to hire. And that was his way. Tell the papers so he sends them but when i got it i finally get the show and and now i'm accepting it uh there's a lot of will farrell's on there tracy morgan and and and they're everyone seems really cool and chris katan the one and only. And on their forget to state, they march us through for his big press conference and the press conference. It's, it's almost like going out to battle, like,

listen, before we go out there and we meet these people, remember, think before you speak, this will be in print forever. We're on live television, entertainment, weekly Rolling Stone. Congratulations. You're going to be a star.

So I'm walking through it, and you start seeing the pictures of Eddie Murphy and John Belushi, and it starts hitting you. And they march us into the studio, and we get up on top of these benches, and snaps are going all over the place of photography, and Norm MacDonald's next to me smoking a cigarette. Awesome. Right. And the president of the network is there.

All right. Welcome to the new cast of Saturday Night Live. Take a good look at them. And on the side is one of the producers going, Norm, put out the cigarette. Put the damn cigarette out.

And he's going, I didn't finish what he did. And I'm just sitting there going, you know, dude, you should be careful. And the producer's like, I don't care, man. Are we, you should be careful. The producer's like, I don't give a shit. I don't care, man. Are we allowed to curse? Sure.

All right. I guess by this point, we're obviously not on the air. Yeah, I know. I didn't know. Go for it. So he's going, yeah, I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. What the fuck do I care, you know? And in front of me is David Spade.

And to me, I'm starstruck with the two of them. And Spade turns around and he's like, have you figured out Norm's crazy yet? So now, I swear to God, I start asking the cast, you got any questions for the cast? I'm still taking this all in. I'm thinking, I'm going to be worth $10 million in about three years. I'm going to be doing movies and just going to blow up.

And I'm looking at all the photography and the TV people, and they start asking, Will Ferrell. And Will's like, you know, I worked hard and always wanted to be here. That's why I did the Groundlings and Sherry O'Terry, the same thing. And then they hit me, and I'm really not paying attention. I swear to God, they go, Jim Brewer, you grew up in New York, and a guy that grew up in New York watching one of the greatest TV shows in history, and now you're here.

How great is that for someone that was a fan of the show, watching the show, and now here you are, born and bred in New York, and now you're part of it? And I just went, I never watched the show growing up. And you can hear, you saw Lorne Michaels' face literally pucker up and get pissed. And Norm goes, i like this guy already this guy's great so let norm smoke more cigarettes as long as this guy doesn't talk any longer

right so so they say that now the president of the network who tried so hard to get me on the show and he was my biggest supporter he now takes over the mic and everyone kind of chuckles a little bit but they can see him i'm naive man i'm really dopey i'm not i'm not a bright character when it comes to this stuff and and he goes uh well uh surely jim what do you mean you didn't watch the show and i went well i wasn't and i recovered i went well i was little and i wasn't allowed to stay up that late. Yeah, nice sight. So he goes, well, surely when you grew up. He's coaching me how to, as he goes, surely when you grew up

and you were a teenager and then you started watching the show, then, you know, and I went, no, when I grew up, I was out on Saturdays. I wasn't watching the show. But he's suddenly going to recover it and go, oh, when I grew up, I was out on Saturdays. I wasn't watching the show. But you're suddenly going to recover it and go, oh, that's right. I remember. It's my favorite show. Right. So Norm was like, yeah, it's not the answer they wanted, man.

They shake it up. So here's the best part. I really think I'm getting fired. And I really thought, like, wow, I just made a huge mistake. You didn't even get to the end of the press conference. I didn't even get to the end of the press conference. I'm fired. Case closed.

Show's over. And all of a sudden, they're pretty much done and they go to Norm MacDonald and go, Norm MacDonald, Tim Meadows, and David Spade, you're the senior cast members on this cast. And what kind of, everyone knows that this establishment, this show is known for their practical jokes and party.

What kind of practical jokes do you have lined up for the new guys? And I swear I started getting depressed because I went, ah, I'm not even going I'm not even gonna get to be part of the practical jokes in the history. It's all ruined for me. And Norm MacDonald goes, now they're just practicing

it. No one's, everyone's being politically correct. And Norm goes, he's like annoyed at the question. What kind of, what did you say? What kind of practical jokes? And he looks at Spain and goes, Well, the first thing we're going to do is anally rape them.

We're going to anally rape the new cast. With my cigarette. We're going to love it. Put my cigarette out on their back. Oh, God, what are we doing here? And I went, Oh, well, he ain't getting fired, I guess. I mean, I'm off the hook now. But to be fair, he watched the show growing up,

so he probably got away with that. He can rape whoever he wants, as long as he knows the history of who he's raping. Then he's fine, exactly. So that was my big thing of getting SNL, and I started off with my back against the wall i couldn't get on the show for seven episodes and i really because that's the thing that people talk about it's like it's all right to be a member of the show and whatever but then it's just a constant uh you know grasping

for for airtime isn't it it's like it's you're not guaranteed to do anything every week it's just you're just in the it's like what we're talking about before it's like vietnam it's just fighting the whole time by the sound of it and what why so many people have a tough time there is because there's no rhyme or reason and what i mean by that is um if you're a great radio show host and you get a following then you don't need some network on these you know carl and dom are the best talk show, you know you are because you got a billion guests. There's no chance of that happening by the way That's a very

that's a sort of hypothetical that can only be posed by an international guest that has never heard the show Yeah, you may have worked this out earlier, we're not meant to be in this building right now So and that's why I like you guys already. You're like our Norm Macdonald.

I like that story. It went from Norm being in trouble for smoking the cigarette to you getting him off the hook for being bad at the press junket to then him getting you off the hook. It's like you're just one-upping each other the whole time. It was freaking great. Cut to you in the corner just like bashing an old lady going, you're welcome, Norm, I each other the whole time. It was freaking great. Cut to you in the corner just bashing an old lady going, you're welcome, Norm.

I'll help you out again. You know what? It's funny you say that, because I learned so much right away, right off the bat. It doesn't seem like it, but when we were done, I went up to him. I went, aren't you worried? The way you talk, you're going to get fired? He goes, and he's making coffee.

Let me tell you something. He he goes no one gives a shit he goes just be fucking funny on television no one gives two fucks what you say off stage or anything like that fuck these people they don't give a shit about you just go there find your fucking character and fucking do what you gotta do. Fucking care about them. Fuck them. He was like that blue collar guy that when you get hired on the job and the boss comes out, he's like, this is what you're all part of this company because we, we anticipate you're going to bring so much to our company. And this is the standard we live up to.

And as soon as he leaves norms, I got it. And he said, fuck that like, hey, you know what he said? Fuck that. Take hour-long breaks, you know, as long as you don't catch it. Fuck him, man. You notice how we'd gotten off talking about Norm MacDonald and then I brought it back just because I wanted to hear the voice again. Exactly.

That's what I was going to say. That's all you wanted. This is the closest we're ever going to get to hanging out with Norm. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. Now, I was going to say, now you're part of a very prestigious list. You're in the top 100. Now, no, don't dismiss this.

I know you're a little bit embarrassed, but the Comedy Central list of the 100 greatest stand-up comics of all time. You're number 91, which is very, very impressive. Well, I think I went up. Oh, did you go up? I dropped lower. Oh, what, did a few people die? I think I was in the 80s.

Oh, really? It's like the comedy stock exchange. Is that how it works? I think lower. Oh, what did a few people die? I think I was in the 80s. Oh, really? It's like the comedy stock exchange. Is that how it works? I think so. I think it depends how many specials you've done on there. Right. Or maybe you fine-tuned your Norm Macdonald routine a little bit, and then went, oh, yeah.

Three or four places. Right. I think after my next special, and it tops, then I'll drop to, I'll come back down. I'll be starting in the 60s. Norm's set fire to a nunnery So he went down a bit So Jim's gone up And you could

Because of your impression You could go above Norm Macdonald You never know Yeah Where like Daniel Tosh Has probably pushed his ass Up to like number 19

Ahead of Chris Rock But his show gets cancelled He's going to drop Into the 101 area Wow Well we hope that Being on this show Doesn't plummet you out of the top 100. That'd be very disappointing because

I tell you, it's a big selling piece for me. I wonder where we are on that list. Is probably Quadruple Feet. Now, on the list I've got, 91, so I admit this is an outdated list. I just like the idea of it tells you definitively who you are better than and who you are worse

than. Now, I like to hear that you are officially better than Andrew Dice Clay. So congratulations. You're better than Sandra Bernhardt. The Jews walking the bar, they bang it. The Jews walking the bar, they bang it. Oh! The black guys walking the bar, they bang it. Oh!

The Jews walking the bar, they bang it. Oh! The Jews walking the bar, they bang it. Oh! The Jews walking the bar, they bang it. Oh! The Jews walking the bar, they bang it. Oh! The Jews walking the bar, they bang it. Oh! The Jews walking the bar, they bang it. Oh! The Jews walking the bar, they bang it. Oh! The Jews walking the bar, they bang it. Oh! The Jews walking the bar, they bang it. Oh! The Jews walking the bar bar They bang it You may have popped him above you now Because that reminds me that he's actually funny That's good You are better than Sandra Bernhardt Okay You don't have her in the canon Alright, no problem You're better than Louis CK here on this list

What? Yes Wow He's at 98 Louis CK's at 98? That's what What? Yes. Wow. He's at 98. Louis C.K.'s at 98? That's what it says right here. C.K. does a terrible Andrew Dice claim.

Yeah, he does a terrible Norm Macdonald, too. He doesn't do any impressions. Poor Louis. Yeah, he can't even do you. Jesus. And number 100, which is the most impressive, I think, is you are better than Gallagher, the man that smashes watermelons. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

Poor Gallagher. For the listeners at home. Jim's pulling out a watermelon. What's going on? But now people to work on. Obviously, you've got Drew Carey that's ahead of you at the moment at 84. So he hosts the Price is Right in America. So maybe some game shows, you could get into that.

Yeah, I'm working on it. I'm working on it. I'd love to be able to have like a cooking show. And maybe that'll boost me up. Combine it with the Gallagher, start smashing the food that you cook maybe. I'm working on it. I'm working on it. I'd love to be able to have like a cooking show. Yeah. And maybe that'll boost me up. Combine it with the Gallagher, start smashing the food that you cook maybe. That might get me like double digits up. Yeah.

Might make me in the 50 zone. Yeah. Now you've got Paul Reiser. Paul Reiser from Mad About You to Aim It. That's 77. Does he even deuce 10 up anymore? Who's in the top 10? Yeah. What's in the top 10? well, 61's Bobcat Goldthwait.

So that's something. I like Bob. I like Bob. Do you even have the list in front of you? I do. Where's Sam Kinison on the list? Oh, he's number 20. Okay.

20. I'm guessing that he's not going to rise any higher than that. David Letterman's number 15 for a man that doesn't do stand-up. I mean, I guess he does his monologue. Who are you after? The top 10. Top 10, you've got Eddie Murphy at 10, Roseanne at 9, Cosby at 8, Dangerfield at 7, Steve Martin at 6, Chris Rock 5, Woody Allen 4,

Lenny Bruce 3, Carlin at 2, Richard Pryor number 1. Oh, you're happy with not being quite as good as those guys then? Yeah, yeah. No, I'm saying like the list-wise. It's always, you know, here's the thing with voting, and I learned right away what voting was about. I remember when I was starting out doing stand-up comedy and I was doing the open mic shows and um I was I was on my way

getting ready to graduate that class and become like the house uh emcee at a club and I was kicking ass and there was a comedy competition for the open micers now I knew I was gonna smoke everybody but I I'm also the guy that's one for all and all for one. I would load everyone in my blue Chevy van, blasting Metallica from one gig to the other. There'd be 10 of us in the freaking thing. And I just wanted all of us to just have a blast together. And I remember going to the club. It was packed.

and I remember going to the club. It was packed, and I went up on stage, and I just, I was sucking air. Just. It sounds like you're smoking Norm Macdonald's cigarette. Yeah, that's my cigarette. You guys tricked me into doing it. What kind of show is this yeah and this story took a great turn

all of a sudden so um and the big prize was like to go open for Phyllis Diller she was like 85 at the time and then this other guy

went up and everything he said the place went bonker it was like a really bad uh inside joke and he ended with blowing up a balloon and sucking the helium and and everyone gave him a standing ovation and then i realized oh he just packed the room yeah and it's his birthday party it's his birthday party

and i just realized voting never means crap. List doesn't mean anything. So what you're saying is Richard Pryor's not really that good. Yeah, he just had a lot of friends that he fixed. He had a nice, he had a, Something about the woods. Make you want to shop. That was my first favorite comedian of all time.

You do that thing on dogs. You're like, oh, there's no racism in dogs. And I got this dog and my ponies. I got this. He goes, I got this new pony. It seems like Richard probably going to end anything with fuck it. And it'd be hilarious. He goes, I got this new pony.

And the dog said, let's go say hello to the new pony and and then that horse smell hit the ass and the german shepherd said hey this ain't no goddamn dog and the dolman said i don't know what is my i'm gonna fuck it that's great that's that's why he's number one yeah that's why he's number one we can now say we've had richardryor on this podcast. I would put Carl in as number one. And I wouldn't have said that like four years ago, but my dad. Oh, sorry.

I thought you said Carl. I thought you meant me as number one. I did, Carl. I only talked to you for 10 minutes, but yeah, I guess I've been funny. I would put George Carl in number one only because his consistency and the amount of work. And I started, I was always Prylin number one only because his consistency and the amount of work and yeah I started I was always prior number one but if you start looking at who has the better material and who's been who who has who stands up further and longer I don't think anyone could beat George

Carlin yeah but you cannot go past Cal Chandler's routine 10 things you can't say on a podcast that is that is landmark stuff. So, of course, you know, all this Saturday Night Live stuff, it's thrilling for us to meet you and to be in the same room as this, but perhaps most impressive for us and for this show and what we generally bang on about in here is that you have been in a commercial for Pizza Hut. That is probably the most impressive thing to ask.

Tell you what, that thing was fantastic. Bought me a new kitchen. That was hot stuff when it happened. We auditioned for a commercial for McDonald's and all aboard us was an awful story. Was that commercial down here? No. No, no, no.

The Pizza Hut. I just looked it up on Wikipedia. Did you see the... We were just looking up Pizza Hut generally and, no, no, no. I just looked it up on Wikipedia. Did you see the... We were just looking up Pizza Hut generally and just stumbled across your name. Years ago, yeah. It was a couple of years ago. It was on Facebook. I got a Facebook page saying, hey, man, you want to do a national commercial?

I went, please. On Facebook? What? I swear to God, I went, look at this yo-yo Facebook in me. And about two days later, my manager calls, like, I got a national freaking no, no, no, you didn't get it.

This dude hit my Facebook page, and I thought he was a jokester. It was funny because we were camping across the... We had an RV. My whole family never rented one. We just got an RV. We were two and a half weeks into it RV. My whole family never rented one. We just got an RV.

We were two and a half weeks into it. And they said, you have to be in LA in two days. The money was just retarded. Retarded. But what came out of that was a viral video, which they paid me to do, which people still debate if it's real or not. Where at the end of the Pizza Hut video, I shove a guy in a pool. We get like an argument and a bicker and I shove him in a pool to shove him up.

And people to this day. What's the debate? People think what the pool's CGI. That's not a real pool. No, they think it's real and they don't believe it's staged. Oh, okay. Right, right, right. I'd love to see you try it on down here, just go into Pizza Huts and just try and get some free shit based on doing an ad for them

in another country. I was in Pizza Hut. Show them the Facebook message, maybe. See the video? Me shoving a guy in a pool. It's me. I'm the Pizza Hut guy. That's a real pool.

That's a real pizza. That's so funny, the Facebook thing, because when we did the McDonald's audition, it was the same thing. Someone got on our Facebook page for this show and went, yeah, we've got an ad campaign, we're looking for a duo, and they didn't say what it was, but it's like, this can't be anything legit or good. But then our manager tried to claim that as well. Same deal.

Got you a national campaign, boys. No, they've got a Facebook account account and we've got a Facebook account. I think we owe Zuckerberg 15% for that sweat coin. 15? You guys pay 15? Is that bad? Bro, bro. Never more than 10, ever. It was 15% of nothing,

so don't worry too much about it. We didn't even get to push anyone in a pool. I think our manager tried to push us in a pool. Not even our manager tried to push us in a pool. Not even a fake pool. Well, that's just about all we've got time for. Jim, thank you very much for joining us. Thanks for having me.

How about a bit of Norm Macdonald just to send us off? Make sure you listen to Crawl and Tommy. If you don't, I'll anally rape you. We're just going to use that as the ad and pretend that's Norm. It's fine. But everyone go to the Jim show. I'll anally rape you. We're just going to use that as the ad and pretend that's normal. It's fine. But everyone go to Jim's show. Maybe if he fills out in Melbourne and Sydney,

he's a chance of going above Dana Carvey at number 90 or Kevin James at 89. Kevin James is 89? That's it. And you were in Zookeeper, weren't you? Yeah. Kevin, thank God, Kevin gave me that. I can't get work for nothing I thought after half-baked I'd be a huge star

I ain't lying I was already buying I bought leather pants I bought leather pants The ultimate indulgence I was going to buy kangaroo Just to let everyone know how successful I was You should have held out

I'm sure Pizza Hut would have got you those leather pants. Almost. You bought this studio with that pre-spending that half-baked money. That's why we haven't been kicked out yet. To me, that's the ultimate success. Walking through a mall with leather pants and a kangaroo. People are like, what's up, that guy? He's successful. That's what's up. Great. Next time

I see someone in leather pants, if I go to an S&M club, everyone in there must be a movie star. They're successful. Jim Brewer, thanks so much for joining us. Thank you. Have a great time. So there we go. That was us chatting to Jim Brewer.

He was a lot of fun. Yeah, he was good. They were both good. Yeah, I was a lot less intimidated by him than Charlie. But it is always intimidating to talk to someone that you've seen on TV and stuff. Yeah, true. It's cool. I felt a lot more awake with Jim than I did with Charlie.

I feel bad. In spite of the fact that I've more awake with Jim than I did with Charlie. I feel bad. In spite of the fact that I've had less sleep today than I had yesterday. I feel bad getting him to do Norm so much, but having said that, if he was back here, I'd do it all again. Man, how great is Norm? He is great. Let's start the campaign right now to get Norm on the show. Oh, man, that would be a dream.

Truly amazing. Yeah. All right, guys. Well, yeah, a bit of a different episode this week. Thanks very much for listening. We hope you've enjoyed our little comedy festival wrap-up, tasty little package here. And we'll be back next week with more flat-out normal dickheadery

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