The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast - Business Meeting, Nurse Nancy, and Andy Popping Into Frame
Episode Date: July 22, 2024This week The Lonely Island and Seth talk about the digital shorts Business Meeting, Nurse Nancy, and Andy Popping Into Frame. Plus, they talk about other sketches including Body Fuzion, Fire Starter,... NFL on CBS, Crystal Falls Town Hall, and more! Take the guesswork out of buying concert tickets with Gametime.  Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LONELY for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply.  Download Gametime today. Last minute tickets. Lowest Price. Guaranteed. Here's a special limited time deal for our listeners.Get up to 60% off at Babbel.com/LONELY Body FusionMacGruber (every episode)Business MeetingSloths Andy Popping Into Frame(Not all the clips we mention are available online; some never even aired.) If you want to see more photos and clips follow us on Instagram @thelonelyislandpod. Produced by Rabbit Grin ProductionsExecutive Producers Jeph Porter and Rob HolyszLead Producer Kevin MillerCreative Producer Samantha SkeltonCoordinating Producer Derek JohnsonCover Art by Olney AtwellMusic by Greg Chun and Brent AsburyEdit by Cheyenne JonesMix and Master by Jason Richards
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All right, let's get into it, guys.
I got to go.
Why?
What do you have to go for?
What's so fucking important?
I have to go to a comedy.
Why do you have to go?
A comedy sketch show, Andy.
Oof.
You have to go to watch a comedy sketch show?
It's a long story.
Let's talk about it later.
It doesn't matter.
No, but I will say, and again, I hope it's a great comedy sketch show, and I'm sure it
will be, but that is my nightmare.
I've reached the age where that is fully my nightmare.
Do you guys ever look back at the things you tried to get important people to come to and feel so bad?
Yeah.
About wanting people to come and see you do your silly sketches?
Every person in my life that I care about, I've begged and essentially forced to come to multiple bringer shows when I was doing stand-up.
And it cost them so much money.
Yeah.
Those were a bummer.
And they were brutal, yeah.
All right, let's get into it.
Seth, hit it.
This is it.
This is it.
It's already started, Jorma.
I think there's a real problem, Jorma, how often you tell me to start when in my head
I've started.
It's the Lonely Island Sunfire Podcast!
Hey, guys.
We're going to do a new thing this episode.
We're going to do four digital shorts because let's be honest.
Here it comes.
They didn't resonate.
They lacked a sort of cultural stickiness that a lot of shorts had.
Fair?
I think that's a really nice way to put that they all stuck.
That's the nicest way of saying it.
I don't think body fusion should be lumped in to that as much.
I agree. I think body fusion is great, but lumped in to that as much. I agree. I think
body fusion is great, but also no credit to Andy, no credit to your arm. You did a great job shooting
it, Keith, but it is sort of... It's Polar's. We'll get there. We'll get there. Yeah. Our work being
called lacking cultural stickiness, that would be so nice as a review for some of this stuff.
Yeah. I will say I had a different way of saying it and then you said
here we go during the t-up and i realized i had to sort of i don't know do sort of like a scooby-doo
backtrack oh yeah because you thought the burn was coming do the mean version now these stunk
they all suck you piece of shit we stand by this this is our hearts work they didn't stink but
first of all because here's the really cool thing.
I would have said, you know, one of the things about this era of SNL,
which you guys know how I stand, where I stand, and Golden Era.
Right.
And Golden Era.
I always thought, you know, it was very hard for the show to be great
without a really strong digital short.
And here's the thing.
These four shows, looking back on it, are great shows.
Despite us.
Yeah, despite you, which I think is healthy
that there were many times that you guys lifted up the show
and then the reality was
this show could also be fine without you guys.
But I want to start with Jeremy Piven.
Strong disagree is what I'm reading
on Jorma's face right now.
I feel like I was involved in making some of these shows better.
I mean, the MacGruber's in here, the first MacGruber's in here.
I feel like that was good.
Oh my God, we'll get to it.
This is literally like somebody trying to make an opening statement in court
when the prosecution is making theirs.
Guys, fair.
First episode we're going to talk about is January 20th, 2007.
Jeremy Piven, hot off and in the middle of Entourage,
a very fitting choice for a show that had a great cultural footprint, unlike the next four digital
shorts we're going to talk about. Listen, just keep leaving Body Fusion out of that. I'm not
leaving Body Fusion out of that. I'm doing the first Piven. The digital short is movie trailer.
Was that made for that show? No. And
I believe now again, we are doing these so far apart. We have no memory. If we repeat ourselves
every episode, it can't be helped. We apologize. But I believe it cut for dress in one of our
previous podcast episodes. And I think we've even brought it up on one of the other episodes
because we saw it in cut for dress. This is only a minute 10. Can I just watch it real quick to
remind myself? Yes. Yeah. And we're going to watch your face and we're gonna narrate your face as
you watch it yeah you just go ahead and take off your iphone so you can't hear us this february
the doctor is he's smiling he's smiling he likes it nurse nancy
now i really feel like he and i gotta
go to war over whether that's good i think i think he's embarrassed really laughing part of it's
knowing how you're feeling seth i think he's kind of coaxing the the bigger chuckles up some head
shaking disappointed head shaking oh that speaks for itself i do like i do like garbasiak
garbasiak's a good name a rare yorm vo too I'll pronounce you mad and black. Come on, guys.
I was home.
I know.
That was a nod to Liz there.
I always cry at weddings.
And her love of American.
Nurse Nancy.
Coming this February.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Okay.
Short.
It was short.
Very short.
I'm caught up.
How'd we clear those songs, first off?
I know.
I think you had Bust a Move and Who Let the Dogs Out and Boom, I Got Your Boyfriend all in.
Yeah.
We didn't care about reruns.
We knew what we had and we knew that we didn't want it to ever repeat.
Ah, so you would just throw the music out there.
I mean, should we kick it off, Seth?
Should we talk about how we feel?
Yeah, kick it.
Kick it off.
I mean, I respect how hateful it is.
Yeah.
I also feel, do you guys feel this way?
I now think about Nutty Professor as a masterpiece. Yes. Never seen it. Is that is. Yeah. I also feel, do you guys feel this way? I now think about
Nutty Professor
as a masterpiece.
Yes.
Never seen it.
Is that true?
Yeah.
Okay.
I genuinely think
Eddie Murphy should have won
an Oscar for
the first Nutty Professor movie.
I remember being in the theater
doubled over
for like eight minutes
of that movie
just being like,
oh my God,
this is so funny.
Yes.
And it's kind of exactly
what we were making fun of
in that short.
The dinner table scene
in the first
98 Professor movie,
I have maybe watched
on YouTube as much
as I've watched
the bar scene
from Inglourious Bastards.
Like, I think it's just
a perfect piece of cinema.
The craziest thing about that
is that the bar scene
in Inglourious Bastards
is also all Eddie Murphy.
But almost too good, right?
The makeup was too good.
It's too good.
So one of the things as I look at it now as,
oh, this was sort of a time where that was maybe viewed as...
But this is based on Norbit and the Clumps, I'm assuming.
Sure.
Nutty Professors, 1996.
What year are we now?
2006?
07.
Yeah, 07.
So a lot has happened probably since then.
A lot has happened
and probably not just
Eddie Murphy film.
But I will say this,
for how you can judge
things occasionally
and occasionally
I don't know where
you're going to shake out
on that,
having you say that
you thought he deserved,
like makes me really happy
because I really do remember
being in the theater
just dying.
So it makes me really happy
that you liked it.
Thank you for saying that.
I never saw it,
as mentioned. Let's watch it right now. I just was like, I'm an actor happy that you liked it. Thank you for saying that. I never saw it as mentioned.
Let's watch it right now.
I just was like,
I'm an actor.
Here's an assignment.
I didn't even know
what the context was.
You had no idea.
You're like,
why should I do this?
Yeah, that's what it reads
in the thing.
You're not owning it at all.
What a wonderful opportunity
to play many roles.
But the meanness in it
is interesting that you note
and that is what makes us like it.
But it didn't come from us
because we didn't write this.
None of us did.
No.
These are some of the rare ones that did not come from us.
That's right.
Which character did you like playing the most, Andy, out of all of them?
I mean, they're like my children.
I can't choose.
You can't choose.
I truly didn't remember what was going to happen in this one, which is also rare.
Usually they start playing like, oh yeah, but this one was just a total surprise.
I had forgotten all of it.
I forgot that the
name was scott garbasiak which also is just makes me giggle immediately garbasiak's good i forgot
yorm stole that vo money from higgins like a motherfucking champ finally yeah i really did
i got my 400 so again not the most memorable but you guys, also the birth of a new sort of
ersatz digital short, which is
MacGruber. Yes. Now,
you wrote and directed MacGruber's. You wrote him with
Solomon and Forte. Yeah. One of my
all-time favorite things that ever
happened in SNL was MacGruber. And
do you remember the impetus
behind the first one? The story I tell,
which I think is accurate, was that
it was a
pitch for the Lance Armstrong show. And it was for Lance to play MacGyver's stepbrother, MacGruber,
which already doesn't make any sense. And instead of diffusing bombs, he obviously doesn't use guns
or anything. He just uses like little found objects, things like pieces of shit and pubic
hair. So none of his assistants want to touch any of the items when he desperately needs them.
Jojo, grab that twine.
I'm on it.
Casey, gum wrapper.
Right here.
Jojo, that dog turd.
What?
The dog turd right by your foot.
I'm not picking up that dog turd.
Ten seconds.
You heard her, Jojo.
Give me the dog turd.
No, why do we need a dog turd?
That's my business. Now pick up the dog turd. Just give him the dog turd. Give me the dog turd No why do we need A dog turd That's my business
Now pick up the dog turd
Just give him the dog turd
You give the dog turd
Yeah Casey
Give me the dog turd
No I can't
I'm keeping count
3 seconds
Fine
I'll get the dog turd
I just hope I have
Enough time to
Bitch
Do you ever think
Oh my god
If Lance had played
Instead of Forte
It would have been
So much worse
And yet it would have Done exactly the same at the box office?
There's the burnage we were looking for.
That's what I was talking about with the judgment earlier.
I don't know what I'm going to give you.
Maybe even a little better.
There might have been like a Livestrong tie-in,
and people would have been showing up to have a group.
Damn, slam.
Might have made more money.
and people would have been showing up to have a group.
Damn, slam.
Might have made more money.
No, I think it's actually indicative of how little I thought of the original pitch
was that I was just like, yeah, just like get through this.
Because I hated a pitch.
Pitch was always like terrifying to me.
You're in a big room, all of your friends,
everyone from the show, all writers and cast are there
and you're a famous host
and you have to like open your mouth
and try to entertain people.
And Lauren. And Lorne.
And Lorne.
I mean, let's remember the arbiter of taste, Lorne.
Exactly.
You know, who wasn't terrified of the pitch?
Who?
Pelé.
Oh, Pelé, the Brazilian soccer player.
Oh, he dominated the pitch.
You kind of went overseas with that one.
Well, he dominated the pitch.
He dominated the pitch.
He wasn't afraid of it.
He couldn't wait to get out there every day.
He was cool as a pro as the proverbial cucumber.
I think the angriest I am at the long walk you just took us on is the way you said Pele.
Yeah, I knew it would be.
Was Pele known to be cool as a cucumber?
I just didn't know.
Yeah, I think under pressure.
The proof is in the pudding, Keev.
Bicycle kicks much?
When you watch old Pele highlights the the whole time you just hear him going,
oh, fuck, fuck, fuck.
Oh, I don't know what I'm doing.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I will tell you who genuinely was not afraid of the pitch
was Will Ferrell.
And again, I only saw his last year of pitching,
so he might have been nervous about pitching
early on in his time in the show.
I got less nervous about it the longer I was there too
because I learned the valuable lesson,
the pitch doesn't matter
and you could just try to make people laugh.
That was more important
than actually trying to pitch a sketch.
But I think I told you guys,
Farrell's last pitch,
he just brought in an old timey typewriter
and he always went last.
And as Lauren was going around the room,
Will was typing like he was writing down all the pitches
and it was the loudest typewriter.
And so people would say, I have an idea pitches, and it was the loudest typewriter. And so people would say,
I have an idea where, and it's like,
tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.
Really slow, really loud.
And then even Lorne was smiling
because I think Lorne at that point
had so much confidence in Will
knowing that this wasn't a road to nowhere.
And so it got all the way around the room.
And then Lorne, as he always did, said,
where's Will?
And Will just turned the just like turn the sides
to bring the paper up.
And he looked at it for a really long time
and he said, no, I think we're good.
No fear of the pitch.
Okay, well, for those of us that were terrified of it,
MacGruber got a really bad reaction.
My second pitch that day, I remember
because that one got a groan.
And then the second one was a spoof commercial for a new kind of chunky mayonnaise that also
got like basically booed. And then I believe it was like another month of me trying to repitch it
to Forte and be like, what if we did this though? What if you played McGregor? And then the first
one that we did for the Piven show is basically that joke. And then the only thing that I really
remember that nobody clocked, but I found funny, was that his assistants, the reason that Maya
Rudolph was named Casey is because the Piven's character was named Jojo. And so it was a nod
to the band Casey and Jojo. To the R&B group. The R&B group. It makes a lot of sense, actually.
Yeah. Casey, Jojo. It was wonderful. By the way, I want
Forte to give his version
of what he thinks how MacGruber came about
because that's probably different than mine. Okay.
My recollection of how
MacGruber came about.
John Solomon and I were supposed to write with
Yorma on a Tuesday night
and Yorma came in and pitched this idea
about this character called MacGruber
who was MacGyver's younger brother,
who was just pretty shitty at doing the same thing that MacGyver does.
And we thought it sounded pretty dumb.
So we just said, no, let's think of something else.
And then a week later, we got together to write again.
And Jorma pitched it again, equally as excited about it. And John
and I were equally as unenthusiastic about it. And then he pitched it the next week. And then
I think it was the fourth week, he frigging pitched this thing again. And we're like,
okay, let's just do it just to get him to shut up and move off it. And then as we started thinking about it
and thought about it as more of a short film
in three segments,
as opposed to one segment that was a sketch,
then it all fell into place.
But yeah, in the very beginning,
we did not have high hopes.
I love you guys.
I just want to say something about this episode.
So we got Nurse Nancy,
which is not, you know,
going to make the Criterion Collection of the Digital Shorts.
But we have the first MacGruber.
Huge. We got A-Holes.
Huge. We got, I think, our second
Blizzard Man with Common. Yes.
Amazing. And then also, I just
want to dip, I'm going to dip in
and I know we're going to do this a fair amount, but I
really want to take a toe and place
it into Seth's Corner.
Oh.
Seth's Corner, you're all invited.
Seth's corner, it's happening right now.
Take it away, Seth.
Weekend Update, the first really was in this Weekend Update.
Oh.
Which is huge.
Genuinely a huge moment for my time at Weekend Update.
And really, never would have come up with it on my own,
was a gift from Andy Samberg.
Whoa.
That is true.
He even gave it to me at a more important time
than a week where we had a show.
He gave it to me when I auditioned for Weekend Update.
And I was working on my audition for Weekend Update,
and Andy came to my office,
said, you should do a bit called Really.
And I said, why?
And he said, that's how you talk all the time.
I said, my favorite version of you is when you show up to the office mad about something that's
happening in the world or in your life. And you get so worked up that you go, really? That's what
we're doing? That's the way? And you always, like when you bring that venom and it comes from your
soul and you combine it with your comedy mind,
it always would make me laugh the hardest you can make me laugh.
I didn't remember it was before your audition, though.
I thought it was after you already got Update.
No, no, no.
It was because I wrote a really for my audition.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
And then it says what you trotted it out for.
Do you remember what it was?
It was for Michael Vick.
Michael Vick got arrested for trying to bring weed onto a plane.
Michael Vick's alleged attempt to bring weed onto a plane. Michael Vick's alleged
attempt to bring marijuana
onto a plane
raises many questions.
Questions we will now address
in a new segment
on Weekend Update
called Really
with Seth and Amy.
Michael Vick, really?
You didn't want to
throw your weed away
before you went
through security.
Really?
You have $117 million left on your contract.
Do you know what $117 million means?
You can afford to replace your weed if you have to throw it away at the airport.
Really. I mean, come on, Michael.
Even my dumbest high school friends know to throw their weed away at the airport,
and they have no money and love weed.
And you got caught at the Miami and they have no money and love weed. And you got caught
at the Miami airport.
Really?
You didn't think
they'd check for drugs
at the airport in Miami?
Really?
And Seth,
in return
for me helping you
create that,
you cut two things
of mine from Update.
Looking at the rundown.
Starting off
a long trend
of you gatekeeping me from glory in your sacred space.
Only pre-tapes, Andy, he'd say as he patted me condescendingly on the head.
Only pre-tapes for you, lad.
You're better with an edit pass, my child.
Wait, what got cut so we can judge whether they should have been cut?
There's just one here.
Well, I apparently helped Solomon and Forte write a Jim Caviezel piece for Will Forte.
As well as a piece called Mustache starring me, written by me, Solomon, Jost, Doug Ables, Charlie Grandy, and Baze, apparently.
Wow.
Too many people.
The full update team.
Yeah, I know.
Do you remember what it was?
I have no idea what it was.
Mustache is you came out to give your review of the Oscars,
maybe the Golden Globes.
It was an award show.
You came out with a mustache
and pretty much only had nice things to say
about actors who had mustaches.
It was a lot of me noting that this was the first mustache
that I had seen you with.
I mean, it sounds like a good premise
that was also incredibly topical.
A word show just had aired.
Yeah, that part was good.
But I guess not good enough.
I wrote a scene called Unicorn.
You guys remember Unicorn?
I had to look it back up again.
It is basically a town that's voting on
whether they should tear down Unicorn Forest to build a mall
and everybody wants to. And it's
been clear that they all have uncountable
wealth because of the magic unicorn.
But they also really want a mall.
Everybody's voting to tear down the unicorn
and then Polar is an elf
named Periwinkle who keeps claiming
you're being rash.
And I can't say why, I know, but I feel like if you
kill that unicorn, you're being rash. And I can't say why, I know, but I feel like if you kill that unicorn,
you're all going to die.
Um, perhaps the unicorn is here because the forest is the last magical place on Earth
and it's warning us not to destroy it.
Thank you, Periwinkle.
I think we all know how you feel about the unicorn,
but it looks like you're outvoted on this one.
You know, it's a trifle, but you guys,
I was very happy when I remembered how much fun
Polar was playing a little elf.
Oh, shoot.
There's something else.
Wait, there's something else that happened
for the first time in this show.
I can't believe we almost missed it.
One of my favorites, because I got a great story about it.
That'll move the chains.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
One of my favorites.
By the way, it was high in the show.
Oh yeah, yeah.
It's the Primo spot after first commercial break.
It's the first sketch.
Yeah, it was super high.
It's NFL commentators, Sandberg, Jost, Murray.
Primo spot.
You were a kid who had won a contest to go into the booth.
Yes, yes, yes.
To be a live broadcast at an NFL game.
And you said that'll move the chains no matter what had just happened that's right
played along the sideline to Reggie Wayne first down Colts that'll move the chains
it certainly will Danny wow looks like someone's been brushing up on his football terminology
nice job Danny I'm trying now it's Manning on the quick snap. Hands to Hedaya. And he picks up about four
yards. That'll move the chains. Well, not this time, Danny. The chains actually only move on a
first down. Great effort though, Danny. Yeah. Manning back under center. Drops back. He's got
Harrison deep. That'll move the chains. And the pass falls incomplete.
And the chains move.
No, no.
And it worked pretty well.
It did.
It played nice.
I feel like people still, like,
once every five years will say that to me.
Yeah.
I mean, I can't hear that'll move the chains
without thinking about it.
So I feel like that's a win on your...
But my favorite story about it,
which I often tell,
and we'll get to it,
because I think it aired.
Two months later, maybe even less, you came into my office and I said, what are you working on
this week? And you said, we're thinking about doing another That'll Move the Chains. And I said,
another? Because I did not strike me as a recurring character. It struck me as a premise piece.
And so I said, another. And do you remember what you said to me?
No.
You said, we don't all have fucking update every week.
Which was, it was like 80% doing a bit,
but I could tell 20% you were a little mad.
The guy who got to just get 10 minutes a week
was being all judgy about you trying to rebuild.
That'll move the chain.
Didn't we do a second one though?
Yes, it was basketball
and I think it was from downtown, maybe.
Or nothing but the bottom of the net, maybe?
That might be it.
It was a very novel re-imagining.
I feel like you got
that'll move the chains back in there too.
Probably said that'll move the chains.
I wonder if we got in,
Yorm, you know how much I wanted to say this on something.
Thunder Dan is En Fuego from downtown.
Yeah, that was like your main thing.
Yeah, with a lisp, though.
Thunder Dan is En Fuego.
Thunder Dan Marley, he can't miss.
Yeah, it always got me.
Still does.
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Moi moi.
That's goodbye and finish.
All right, moving on.
Next show, Drew Barrymore, February 3rd, 2007.
Digital short, this one came
from Amy Poehler
and it's listed
as workout video
but what would you
think of it as
if you gave it a title
Akiva
body fusion
yeah body fusion
body fusion
I think it was just
confusing or came in late
and so we just called
it workout video
let's tone our arms
you can use weights
or any household item
for a more advanced workout, use one pound hand
weights. Or air. Body Fusion is wonderful. It is an 80s style workout video. And Akiva,
this is one of the first times I heard you describing the process of making something
where I was hella, to use the West Coast term, impressed.
Thanks for that.
It has a grainy VHS quality.
And I remember you saying, did you shoot it and then transfer it to VHS
and then sort of crumple the tape?
Yeah, it was experimental.
And I was really proud of having thought of it.
There were some old VHS stacks still at SNL that weren't really plugged in.
And we went and dug them out.
And then we shot it on the normal kind of studio cameras, but at a good frame rate that
looks like old stuff.
And then we copied it onto VHS tapes and we copied it onto them at different speeds.
You remember when you used to do VHS and there'd be the two hour version that was like, you
know, pretty high quality and then the EP and then the LP, like for four hours or six hours. And we took three
different tapes and just recorded it at three different speeds. So it went from, you know,
good to bad to worse. And then there was one where I did it and then touch the tape and all the stuff
you're not. And it was like tracking all over the place. And then we digitize them all back in and
put them on top and then shot to shot. I just chose how messed up to make it on every shot. And it worked so well because back then people would
just still do like a fact, a VHS effect. And you could always tell it was fake. And I got called
by people asking how I did it, what plugin I used. I remember also being impressed when you suggested
doing it. And that SNL had machines. Yeah. it's obvious when you think about it. I was going to say, I thought it was obvious.
Yeah, thank you.
Anytime there is that plug-in or that effect,
if you watch it long enough, you can tell it's an effect.
And the great thing about this was
because you had done it manually,
there was an unpredictability to it
that made it so authentic and great.
And I remember it was one of those that was beloved without necessarily
having a ton of laughs in it. You just felt everybody watching it was enjoying it so much.
Just having rewatched, actually, there was more laughs than I was expecting because what you just
said was my memory of it as well, that people just were being charmed by their performances
and their little looks they're giving each other and stuff. But then I was surprised to actually
hear some actual laughs in there as well.
I think it's a very special one, Body Fusion.
I do put it in the Criterion Collection for its uniqueness.
Yeah, exactly.
Because it's so different from everything else.
And it was such a fun idea.
There's a reason I made it into the 100th Digital Short.
The roundup recap of all things we were proud of.
Yes, it did.
Yeah.
Oh, right.
Did you see the Body Fusion ladies for a second?
Body Fusion lady.
Body Fusion, not just because of the style of it,
but because Polar had a good idea.
And now when you watch it, you're like,
oh yeah, I've seen a hundred things like this.
But at that moment, it felt like, in my opinion,
like a new thought to have on her part
and then Keeve's delivery of it.
Yeah.
The concept of that the exercise videos
have the lady doing the hard version,
the medium version and the easy version. I didn't even know that existed in exercise videos. And she had to explain to me what it was. And now as someone who's lived 20 more years, I've seen those videos. Pretty accurate.
Pretty sure the first Dakota Fanning show, which was a fun little impression for Polar over the years to do and gave hosts fun things to do.
There was a great Donatella.
There was Target Lady.
It was a good show.
Good show. Oh, there's a really fun Smoke Sausages where I'm pretty sure it's Drew Barrymore as her character from Firestarter cooking sausages on a grill.
All grown up.
All grown up.
Why not?
A very deep cut because, again, by 2007,
I believe Firestarter is probably 20-plus years old.
Sounds like we would have wrote it.
Yeah, that wasn't our idea.
Yeah.
That's our territory.
Hi, I'm Charlie McGee,
but you probably know me better as Firestarter.
That was a long time ago, and now I've got something that I'm really excited about.
Firestarter brand smoked sausages.
Firestarter brand smoked sausages.
Cooked in fires, She starts with her mind.
Then we have Forest Whitaker, you guys.
The Forest Whitaker show, the digital short, is Andy Poppigan frame.
Here we go.
Let's talk about it.
Talk me through it.
Can we first just talk about how wonderful Forest Whitaker was?
Sure.
Let's distract from the fact that we made Andy Poppigan the friend.
That was my intention.
Why are you doing that to your compadre?
I was just so, I was so disappointed.
I was so disappointed watching it.
Let's remember that we're editing Hot Rod.
This is crunch time, editing Hot Rod.
Sure.
We're talking February 2007.
We have a summer release date.
Sure.
I begged Lorne every week to just let me not come in
and let me just keep editing.
And the one week he let me do it
was the Jeremy Piven show of the whole season.
And I remember it so clearly
because I wasn't there that whole week.
That was Nurse Nancy?
Yes.
And that's why they dug out Nurse Nancy
from back in November from the Ludacris show.
It had already been made.
Yeah.
And I was doing MacGruber, so I was distracted.
Maybe we had a test screening or something coming up
and he was like, okay, fine.
You can miss this week.
And I did not come in at all for that one.
When you guys did, Blizzard Man would come and I just read the script on the couch at
the editing room.
And that was it.
That was the only one that he let you off for?
Only one?
Yes.
In my memory, yes.
But it was a big deal.
When he said it, it was like a snow day for a kid.
Yeah.
It was like, oh my God, I just got the whole week.
I get to work on the movie.
I can work.
That you're also producing.
I can't believe how much're also producing. Yeah. I
can't believe how much you remember sometimes, Keev. It's all a big schmooey blob to me. It's
just specific. I didn't remember the Nurse Nancy stuff until right now. But the Piven one, I
remember not being there because it was weird to not be there for a week. Seth, do you remember
every guest that's been on your show like vividly? No. Okay. Weird. Well, you admit it.
Yeah, I do admit it.
Okay, but Akiva, for Andy popping into frame,
you said earlier that you thought that this was groundbreaking at the time.
I'm paraphrasing what you said.
Well, to be willing to be this naked on screen, I mean.
This unprotected by the written word or jokes.
That it was almost punk rock.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was.
Let me go into something that i forget to do
uh the comments this is comment number one on the youtube channel from three years ago is it
andy's cute because that's what i got they let this man do whatever he wanted and i love it
that is the punk rock thing is that it was like hey we're gonna do whatever we want i guess yeah
i mean i think even as we were making that one, we knew it wasn't that great.
Is this enough?
It was experimental.
It was going to be all style
and it was going to be more like
kind of the interstitial stuff
we had shot for Awesome Town.
And I believe one of us,
possibly even me,
said out loud
while we were cutting it,
people who don't like me
are going to really hate this.
Well, I think, to be fair,
I think that's also
because you do look kind of cute.
Oh, Yoram. You do look cute.
You're pretty cute on screen.
Like, I'm like, oh, look at that adorable guy.
And if I didn't like you, I'd be like, fuck this guy.
I agree. Yoram, I'm gonna tell you,
one of my biggest takeaways from watching this was,
damn, Andy was handsome.
I was endeared to him at the time,
or else I would've hated him, too.
Y'all are nice
it's also like
the show is so polished
that sometimes
we would go
what if we do something
that is premises
yeah
that is very
unpolished
and like play
with expectations
it's almost good
you feel it working
because it does
the thing
it does
fast pop
fast pop
fast pop
fast pop
so that your brain
goes okay
he's gonna pop in
and then it goes
to a wide
and you're searching the screen and you're searching and you know, it is doing something
right because it is telling a cadence of playing with expectations. And then he pops in somewhere
and you're like, okay, it's teaching me a game visually the same way. And I remember us talking
about it, that we were basically making something that would be on Sesame street when we were doing
it. That's what it feels like. And when comes in i'm like okay and they're they're
heightening and that really works and then i'm like okay if they've got another forte up their
sleeve i'm gonna be with this because it's like doing every variation on a theme it's like in
the film amadeus remember when uh the guy that's not as good uh salieri or whatever comes in and
he's been working on something for years yes and most are like oh that's a really cool melody and
he's like or you could do it like this or you could do it like this and he's been working on something for years and Mozart's like, oh, that's a really cool melody. And he's like, or you could do it like this
or you could do it like this.
And he does like 10 variations
on the theme immediately
in a way that would take
this other guy
obviously a year to figure out.
Just watch that
total accurate description
of the scene.
This is exactly
what we were doing.
We only thought of
like three variations.
Yeah.
And so it was like
a third of a Mozart maybe.
You're right.
You're right.
If it had heightened after that,
I think I would have liked
it a lot more.
And was this the beginning of us doing a stupid beat that I had made kind of thing?
Because we ended up doing this kind of thing a bunch of times.
Yes, we ended up doing two more.
We did Punch Before Eating and we did Extreme Competition.
Which I like both of those better, but there's a lot more to laugh at in those.
Well, yeah.
I mean, the first MacGruber wasn't as good as the later ones either, right?
That's true. Yeah.
I've been notified, Seth, that there was an out-of-breath jogger cut from this episode.
From 1933.
You want me to hit you with a little taste? Because it never aired.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, before you read it, Andy, let me just say,
I'm devastated at our choice. And I'm sure when I hear it now,
I will realize that this
would have changed the trajectory of the show. Now a moment with the out of breath jogger from
1933. It would be me in a thirties full piece swimsuit. Sure. That's what joggers would wear,
a swimsuit. Yeah. Ooh, this depression's the worst, huh? Ah, you see that movie, King Kong, the first one?
Supposed to be awesome.
This Adolf Hitler character seems to be stirring up a lot of trouble.
I'm sure it'll pass.
Oh, tell you who my favorite baseball team is right now,
the 1933 New York Yankees.
Oh, I'm having trouble breathing.
You know what rules?
Having 48 states, it's the best.
Al Capone! That was the end al capone the
idea that they would cut something that's like a minute long is a little unfair i don't even know
which one of those is supposed to get a laugh because again the out of breath jogger from the
80s like 80s jogger already is funny yeah also 80s references are ones that are a little bit more fun to hear,
certainly in the mid-2000s.
And now you go back to 19...
It's really funny
that you tried.
Okay, but the speed
at which jokes
would be coming at you
and the look of it,
it would be black and white.
It would be old-timey footage.
But why cut something
that is just a little fun pop
like that?
You know what I mean?
Probably because it died and we had better stuff is my guess.
Heath Urban went over.
I have a memory of something else that got cut
in the Forrest Whitaker show that I wrote called Meet the Boss.
Do you guys remember Meet the Boss?
Oh, I remember this vividly.
I love this sketch.
I was so sad when the-
The King of Scotland sketch.
Yes.
Forrest Whitaker was hosting on the back of Last King of Scotland,
for which he was Oscar nominated.
And I wrote a sketch where Idi Amin was the new boss at a mid-level office.
By the way, it fucking destroyed at the table.
I quote it all the time.
Destroyed at the table.
Yes.
I will not on this podcast do my impression of Forrest Whitaker's Idi Amin
because I feel as though nobody wants that.
Really? I mean, I would desperately want it, but I think it's a good call not to.
But if you can imagine, it was a lot of Forrest Whitaker's Idi Amin being upset that someone ate
his yogurt, even though he had labeled it. Yeah. I quote it to my kids all the time.
And the part about it that I still feel a little bad about is obviously forest whitaker is an actor of an
incredible skill there is a heft he brings to his performances there is work he goes into finding a
character and i think he took a journey to find a place to play idiom mean and then for me to
immediately make it a sketch character he had a lot of questions about is it funny for this
character to be saying this stuff?
And all, the only feedback I ever gave him was like, yeah, but just like do it like Idi Amin.
He was giving an Oscar caliber Idi Amin for Uyediz Yogurt. It was so funny.
It was so funny.
And how did it play a dress?
Not great. I should say it didn't play great, but also it maybe would have gone,
and I have nothing but
respect for this choice, you could tell it just wasn't that much fun for him and it was better
not to do it. I think that's why I liked it though, because he was actually giving sort of
more of a dramatic performance. It was that. I'm going to say something that is my theory and was
my theory at the time. Our SNL audience 100% had not seen that movie.
Yeah.
And that was the problem.
Right.
There's a scene in that movie
where James McAvoy is his doctor.
It's called Infernal Emergency.
Do you remember?
And then he takes a baseball bat,
holds it across his stomach,
you know, mean stomach,
and just applies pressure.
And he lets out a gigantic fart.
And that's when they kind of fall in love.
And he's like, you're my guy now.
And that's the story of that. It's all based on a fart.
It's also one of the longest farts that you've ever seen on film, right?
Yeah.
I mean, it's like, it feels like it's like a 30 second fart.
It's very long. And the entire relationship is predicated on that fart.
It's a very serious Oscar movie where they're like, and the inciting incident is a fart.
It's true.
I will say another thing I cannot hear without thinking about this show and Forest Whitaker
is the Elton John song, Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me.
Do you remember the scene where Forest Whitaker is a waiter?
He's a singing waiter and he keeps singing it and he keeps singing it going up one octave
each time.
And the thing I remember about Forest Whitaker is he keeps singing,
instead of don't let the sun,
he keeps saying do not,
which is a really...
I feel like, is that a James Anderson?
No, Paula Pell and John Lutz.
Okay.
But Forrest Whitaker keeps getting higher and higher
and singing,
do not let the sun.
And I just...
He left a mark.
Forrest Whitaker left a mark on me.
Also in this show
Jorma
Sloth
oh
is that a digital short
no
I would have counted
you would not count it
just because it didn't
have the slate
it didn't have the tag on it
I would count it
because I helped Jorm
work on it too
if Body Fusion counts
it should count
it came exclusively
out of our office
okay yeah
it's the shortest
little piece of animation
the joke being that it's a documentary that was sent in to a wildlife channel that's been given to them by
a group of students at Staten Island Technical High School. And then they play the video and
it's supposed to be about sloths and supposed to be educational, but the person who's presenting
it hasn't seen it yet. And that's Kristen Wiig who's presenting it. And she hasn't seen it,
but she's heard it's very educational. and then it breaks very quickly into a sort of aggressive rock medley kind of song
and then horrifyingly bad animation that I did on Final Cut of Sloss like shooting Uzis and I feel
like stylistically it was kind of the precursor to O'Brien's Insane Clown Posse thing.
Yeah. It had a lot of that fast-paced setting.
Can I just say one thing about Sloth real quick?
Please.
First of all, Keeve, I remember distinctly you saying that this was reductive
and that it was too much like a commercial and you didn't want me to do it. And then after I
spent five days of 12 hours a day of doing animation, you were like, yeah, that's pretty good. I don't know if you remember.
Okay, well, apologies. I remember the part saying it was pretty good, but I didn't remember the negative part.
Yeah, you thought it was like a squirrel thing. There was some squirrel advertisement that you were like, you can't do this because it's like these squirrels.
What I learned making the sloth thing was the song was made. I had done all this animation for these sloths
being crazy and clearly not acting like sloths. And then I remember Jost was like,
you need some context for this. So you got to put a top and a tails on this of like,
how this is being presented. And I remember it being like a real aha moment of comedy of like,
oh yeah, the audience is not going to get any of this without some context. By the way, it's the exact same thing that happened on Laser Cats, but you hadn't
learned it yet, I guess. Burn. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Andy, since we can hear it, can you play it
real quick so we can listen to Sloth? And today I'd like to talk about some very special animals
that don't get much attention. Sloths. They're furry. They have two or three toes, and yes, they're very, very slow.
Luckily, we just received a brand new documentary on these adorable creatures from a group of students at Staten Island Technical High School.
I haven't seen it yet, but we always party 24.
We eat algae off our fur
We got three toes
Bubble pound 3,000 blood lights
Break your nose
And kick your face
In a punch fight
We eat fab food
But prefer your girls
Shake your arm
With a pterodactyl.
Hire a dog to burn down a hospital.
Eat cocaine off America's gravestone.
Don't call us slow.
Don't call us slow. That was not entirely accurate.
This has been a message from the Staten Island Zoo.
Hey, Josephio.
Well, it was a Staten Island technical high school
because that's where his dad worked.
So he wanted to give a little shout out to his dad.
Even better than I remember, gentlemen.
Yeah, I forgot me and Suds were on it.
Yeah, on the track.
You guys are rocking it.
Incredible heightening on the lyrics.
Shank your mom with a pterodactyl dick bone. I'm pretty sure that was you. track you guys are rocking it incredible heightening on the lyrics i mean shank your
mom with a pterodactyl dick bone i'm pretty sure that was you and then i was murray did
did matt murray do america's gravestone do cocaine off america's gravestone it has a real natalie's
rap heightening to how bad how quickly it gets terrible in that those are things you should
never say. Yes.
It starts to go off the rails pretty quickly. Did you see the comment about America's Gravestone is the best Beck Odile line that was never recorded?
Really good.
That's a really good YouTube comment.
That's a good comment.
So you know what?
I'll just say Andy popping into frame, you know, a little soft, kind of has two and a half beats.
Yeah.
Sloss puts its foot to the gas and just never lets up and is just perfect.
It's much more on brand for us, frankly.
Yes.
Yeah.
I didn't remember that it was a song with lyrics either,
which I think Jorm, correct me if I'm wrong, progressed throughout the week.
No, no.
We had to make it first because I had to animate to it.
We actually recorded it really early on in the week because I was animating all week.
It took forever because I was animating in Final Cut, which is not an animation program.
The part that really got me, Orm, that I had fully forgotten about was cutting to Sloth from Goonies
shredding on electric guitar.
And the audience all completely understood it for some reason, I think.
Oh, yeah. Well, that's when we were young and our references were their references.
I did a bit during the pandemic.
I think it was during the pandemic
where I said that I had been going to impression camp.
And the first rule of impression camp is don't do sloth.
There's no way.
Doing sloth now would be on par with me trying to do Idi Amin.
Even if it's a perfect sloth, people would say, what are you doing?
You'd be like, no, but have you seen Goonies?
It's a great sloth.
You guys probably remember that Keenan and Joe shared an office
and had a Goonies poster on the door.
Do you remember that?
That it just hung there forever?
Yeah.
And when Josh Brolin hosted, he walked up.
He's like, there I am. Like, he's so young and goonies that you for i even forgot yes i was like
all right that is you i've been looking at you every day that i've gone to joe's office he was
such a hunk he just became a different kind of handsome guys we're gonna wrap it up with the
fourth quarter here it's the rain wilson show rain wilson the digital short is business meeting
daniel what do you think?
Well, sir, our online division is hemorrhaging money.
I say we lose it.
Okay.
Peter?
I gotta go with Dan here.
Derek?
I'd lose tech support.
Okay.
Red?
Downsize research.
Water guy?
I don't work here.
Right.
Derek's twin brother.
I agree with what Derek said.
Uh, Mountain Joe.
Well, we could consolidate marketing.
Snake Eyes.
Scaleback IT.
Uh, Chief Big Cloud. Long before Sister Boop. Not now we could consolidate marketing. Snake Eyes. Scaleback IT. Chief Big Cloud. Long
before Sister Boop. Not now, Gary.
Sorry. I enjoyed watching Business
Meeting because it highlights
that wonderful cast, but
it does end in a real
Seth-unfriendly way. Not surprisingly,
it ends in a real MacGruber.
There was no ending, so a building just
explodes. The lapsing building.
Not my favorite. Did it air after MacGruber? explodes. The lapsing building. Yeah. Not my favorite.
Did it air after MacGruber, the first MacGruber?
Yeah.
So that's bad.
Did you use that building ever in a MacGruber, the stock shop?
No, because MacGruber was always exploding.
Yeah, that was a detonation.
Oh, this was the demolition.
Is the same idea, obviously. By the way, there's a strong chance at that point that none of us are thinking there's
going to be another MacGruber.
True.
So we probably thought it was like a funny callback
to MacGruber is my guess.
Yeah.
This was a Tacone-Jost-Sandberg joint.
It was?
I remember though that Seth did a lot.
I think I directed this one, didn't I?
You did direct it.
And it was fun.
And Rainn Wilson's very good in it.
And all of our cast is really good in it.
And Shoemaker's son Austin is in it.
And Shoemaker is in it.
That's right. And I like is in it. That's right.
And I like that about it. There's some good jokes.
This was another one, Jorm, where I was so busy trying to edit, but I did come in. I was in that
room, but you guys had wrote it. You were in charge of it. And I came in, I remember, and we
just talked eyelines a little bit. Because it's kind of complicated. And it was like, oh no,
here's the rule. If you shoot Rain straight down the middle, so when he turns to the left, he's looking camera left.
He turns to the right, he's looking camera right.
Then you can just shoot everybody on this side this way,
and this way, this way,
and you never have to worry about it.
That's right.
And I remember us working it all out.
Yeah, because there's a lot of people who appear
and then disappear as other characters.
Yes, which I really like that thing too.
Yeah, it all works pretty well.
I like the arcade fire cameo.
Made me happy, I will say. I
also had that delicious turkey sub puppet in my house forever until it fell apart. And the tiger,
wasn't the tiger like on the wall in our office? Oh yeah. The head. Mounted tiger head who didn't
come prepared for the meeting. Also, I want to give a shout out to another beginning of a franchise
Danny song, which were those really fun sing-along songs that Sudeikis and Tucker wrote.
And was Andy, Sudeikis, Bill, and Forte?
Those were always good times.
Yeah.
There's also a really good
Yoram Dances Along to Arcade Fire,
what would have been now a TikTok,
or an Instagram story reel,
where we would use a small digital camera,
like a photo camera,
because phones couldn't even take video back then.
And we would do a little video of Jorm dancing
to the musical guest during rehearsals.
And we did a good one with Arcade Fire.
I was in my underwear, I believe, for that one.
Yeah.
You also can't do that probably anymore.
Guys, I was watching Business Meeting, what'd I miss?
No, then we're just talking about me getting naked
in front of Arcade Fire.
Oh, yeah.
So guys, as we sort of finish up here,
I just want to say, we've finished four shows. And again, maybe So guys, as we sort of finish up here, I just want to say we've finished four shows.
And again,
maybe Sloth,
as we look back,
I would say Sloth
and Body Fusion
would be ones you'd want
to talk about years later.
But also great work
was done outside
of the digital shorts.
This is the dawn of an era
where we get value
from you guys.
That's not just
your precious little videos.
Andy, Blizzard Man.
Yeah.
Andy, Danny Song. You know, obviously, ideally, there'd be Blizzard Man. Yeah. Andy, Danny's song.
You know, obviously,
ideally, there'd be a third.
But...
What is Danny's song?
He just talked about it
when you were watching
Business Media.
Oh, yeah, you were
watching something.
Sudeikis' sing-along songs.
You, Bill, Will, and Sudeikis
singing in a bar.
Remember you would tell stories
and then you would...
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were great.
But we didn't write that.
Isn't that Tucker? Yeah, I was saying Sudeikis and Tucker. I was saying, but you're in him. Yeah. And you would... Oh, yeah, yeah. They were great. But we didn't write that. Isn't that Tucker?
Yeah, I was saying Sudeikis and Tucker.
I was saying, but you're in him.
Yeah.
And you're really good.
No, thanks.
You guys, I really have to go.
I'm sorry.
We all have to go.
You guys, this has been episode 17.
We're going to do three shorts in the next episode,
which is going to bring us to the end of your second season.
Ooh.
So join us next week as we talk about all those digital shorts.
And this is cool.
Jorm is going to tell us what was so fucking important that he had to jump off the pod. See you next week as we talk about all those digital shorts and this is cool. Yorm is going to tell us what was so fucking important that he had to jump off the pod. See you next week.